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[1146.82 --> 1150.94] The other thing that I like about it is the fact it does multi-room audio, |
[1151.04 --> 1152.90] much in the same way as like a Sonos does. |
[1153.48 --> 1157.02] You have a little icon in your playback client, |
[1157.16 --> 1161.04] and then you can just check a box and suddenly you've got two devices playing in sync. |
[1161.82 --> 1167.66] That doesn't sound too incredible until I explain the scenario that really blew my mind. |
[1167.66 --> 1173.24] So Rune has this thing called Rune Advanced Audio Transport, RAT. |
[1174.04 --> 1178.92] That runs on anything that runs a Rune Ready or a Rune Native client. |
[1179.22 --> 1186.72] So certain amplifiers have been certified by Rune and by Marantz and Denon and all these big guys. |
[1186.72 --> 1195.16] They pay Rune a small fee and they embed the Rune Ready receiver software into their network streamers. |
[1195.16 --> 1205.82] You can also run a RAT Ready device on a Windows PC, a Mac computer, an iOS device, a Raspberry Pi. |
[1206.66 --> 1209.48] And so you can cast effectively. |
[1209.74 --> 1215.18] It's not quite casting, but you can stream music to any RAT Ready device in sync, |
[1215.18 --> 1217.14] no matter what OS it's running. |
[1217.38 --> 1218.78] So just paint this. |
[1218.86 --> 1221.44] I've got my iPad out on the deck where I'm grilling some meats. |
[1222.34 --> 1227.28] In the lounge next door, I've got a Raspberry Pi plugged into a HiFi running Linux. |
[1227.48 --> 1230.46] In the room next door, I've got my laptop running Mac OS. |
[1231.24 --> 1235.08] And all three of those devices are playing audio perfectly in sync |
[1235.08 --> 1238.40] that I'm controlling from my iPhone with a single checkbox. |
[1238.86 --> 1241.76] Oh, that is pretty glorious. |
[1242.14 --> 1243.40] That's the dream, isn't it? |
[1243.74 --> 1243.96] Yeah. |
[1244.50 --> 1244.78] Yeah. |
[1245.18 --> 1247.64] All the machines, all the speakers, all the OSs. |
[1248.18 --> 1254.20] The catch, and unfortunately, I think there's probably some technical limitations here at play, |
[1254.40 --> 1260.94] is that you can only stream like that to devices that are part of the same kind of ecosystem. |
[1261.30 --> 1265.84] So I can only group devices that are RAT devices. |
[1265.84 --> 1268.36] I can only group Chromecast devices together. |
[1268.44 --> 1270.54] I can only group AirPlay devices together. |
[1270.54 --> 1275.26] I can't stream to an AirPlay and a Chromecast device at the same time. |
[1275.34 --> 1276.10] Do you have any idea why? |
[1276.16 --> 1277.50] That's a pretty interesting limitation. |
[1277.86 --> 1283.18] Well, I mean, AirPlay, the way it buffers the stream is quite different to how Chromecast buffers the stream. |
[1283.30 --> 1285.32] So it's using their native protocols. |
[1285.38 --> 1287.08] It's not using like a client on that. |
[1287.20 --> 1288.14] Oh, yeah. |
[1288.14 --> 1288.34] Okay. |
[1288.34 --> 1289.16] That makes sense. |
[1289.22 --> 1290.60] Well, that's what the RAT stuff is doing. |
[1290.60 --> 1295.60] So the RAT stuff is running a native client on the specific device, so iOS or whatever. |
[1296.38 --> 1297.78] And that's why you can't group them together. |
[1297.92 --> 1311.68] And I was a little bit deflated to start with when I found that out because I had this magical vision of all the Google Home Nest Mini hub things I have around the house and all my computers and everything all working perfectly in sync. |
[1311.68 --> 1314.42] And unfortunately, that isn't the case. |
[1316.92 --> 1323.12] What if you bought the Nucleus Plus, which is their $2,600 server that you can buy from them? |
[1323.20 --> 1325.68] How do you know this service is aimed at audio files, huh? |
[1326.08 --> 1327.10] How to tell, right? |
[1327.28 --> 1329.00] I mean, it's a cool looking case. |
[1329.54 --> 1330.38] I'll give them that. |
[1330.44 --> 1332.26] It's a beautiful ecosystem. |
[1332.78 --> 1334.02] Yeah, they've got a... |
[1334.02 --> 1336.80] So you can run this Rune Core, this server software. |
[1337.28 --> 1339.12] You can run it in a Docker container like I am. |
[1339.12 --> 1341.64] You can run it on a Synology, on a computer. |
[1342.04 --> 1345.06] But Rune also sell this thing called the Nucleus. |
[1345.14 --> 1349.72] And Chris is showing on the stream now something called the Whirlwind, which is a rack mount version of the same thing. |
[1350.10 --> 1350.82] It's so great. |
[1351.42 --> 1353.66] That one's $4,500, by the way. |
[1354.66 --> 1363.10] And you know what's funny is if you actually dig into the specs page on these pages, there is zero information about what CPU is in there. |
[1363.30 --> 1367.10] There is a page where they just say they have on their partners page. |
[1367.20 --> 1368.76] They say they have partnered with Intel. |
[1368.76 --> 1369.70] Yeah, that's it. |
[1370.12 --> 1378.60] I mean, who's to say whether it's a Celeron from 2003 or whether it's an i7 12th gen? |
[1378.72 --> 1381.88] I mean, I imagine it's neither, but we don't know. |
[1382.00 --> 1383.24] And that's the point, right? |
[1383.30 --> 1384.70] It's a black box, literally. |
[1384.92 --> 1385.02] Yeah. |
[1385.20 --> 1391.48] And when you're dropping that kind of cash, I guess, you know, and of course, the answer is they're selling this to a market who couldn't care less. |
[1391.58 --> 1392.46] We realize that. |
[1392.64 --> 1395.42] But it's still, it wouldn't kill them to put the specs on there. |
[1395.42 --> 1397.80] If you go by the ports, it looks like it's a NUC in there. |
[1397.90 --> 1398.82] I have to say. |
[1399.36 --> 1400.32] Yeah, I agree. |
[1401.20 --> 1405.72] So, I mean, if we can get over the price of this thing, because I mentioned the monthly price. |
[1405.78 --> 1408.42] I didn't mention they also offer a lifetime pass. |
[1409.20 --> 1409.40] Okay. |
[1409.40 --> 1421.10] I mean, if you're really stuck with it and they stuck around, you know, you got somewhere between five to ten years out of this and it had high spousal approval. |
[1422.46 --> 1422.90] Maybe. |
[1423.18 --> 1424.06] I mean, I could see that. |
[1424.60 --> 1427.90] So, Rune as a company was founded, I think, in 2015. |
[1427.90 --> 1438.12] And so, if you'd bought into Rune in 2015 and paid $700, you would only just be breaking even on your monthly subscription. |
[1438.92 --> 1440.70] Just put that into perspective. |
[1440.90 --> 1444.44] Seven years is a long time for an ROI on that kind of thing. |
[1445.38 --> 1447.96] And I wrestled with this pretty hard before I actually tried Rune out. |
[1448.08 --> 1449.88] You know, I wanted to hate it because it was expensive. |
[1450.02 --> 1452.18] I wanted to hate it because it was closed source. |
[1452.18 --> 1456.36] But then I thought, well, so is Plex, isn't it? |
[1456.46 --> 1457.86] And you like Plex just fine. |
[1458.66 --> 1462.72] And so, I kind of came to terms with it and got over myself and thought, yeah, you know, it's fine. |
[1462.78 --> 1465.36] You can try it out and you'll hate it anyway. |
[1466.72 --> 1467.52] I don't. |
[1467.68 --> 1468.24] I love it. |
[1469.26 --> 1474.06] The trouble is, just as I've been doing this, they've made a big release. |
[1474.20 --> 1481.10] They've just released the 2.0, the version 2, which if you're a Rune aficionado is a huge deal. |
[1481.10 --> 1485.12] But to me, as a newbie, it's just unstable, right? |
[1487.00 --> 1489.02] So, you're familiar with Plexamp, right? |
[1489.10 --> 1491.52] The app that lets you play your Plex music remotely. |
[1492.16 --> 1492.42] Love it. |
[1492.70 --> 1496.72] Rune have just released an equivalent app called Rune Arc, A-R-C. |
[1497.54 --> 1501.80] And this lets you access all of your Rune music outside the house. |
[1501.94 --> 1506.20] As it stands, the Rune desktop and mobile clients that already existed |
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