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[1996.38 --> 1997.46] So we got SIGs. |
[1997.66 --> 1999.38] So basically every part of the Kubernetes code base. |
[1999.38 --> 2000.14] What does a SIG mean? |
[2000.30 --> 2001.08] Special interest group. |
[2001.08 --> 2001.60] Special interest group. |
[2001.72 --> 2001.96] Okay. |
[2002.32 --> 2004.42] And so we got a SIG for API machinery. |
[2004.68 --> 2008.22] They own the API and the stuff that runs on the master nodes. |
[2008.54 --> 2013.88] And so I work on SIG CLI, which is the SIG for the command line tooling, right? |
[2013.88 --> 2013.98] Okay. |
[2013.98 --> 2021.68] So Kube Control, Customize, KUI, which is a like GUI framework for Kube Control, a couple other |
[2021.68 --> 2022.46] sub projects. |
[2022.46 --> 2027.08] But yeah, so I've been working on that for like four years now and it's a lot of fun. |
[2027.30 --> 2027.46] Yeah? |
[2027.64 --> 2027.88] Yeah. |
[2028.04 --> 2028.60] Kube Control, huh? |
[2028.74 --> 2028.98] Yeah. |
[2029.08 --> 2029.52] Is that official? |
[2029.96 --> 2036.34] Kube, well, you will notice throughout this talk, I say it many different ways on purpose. |
[2036.48 --> 2037.04] So you rotate. |
[2037.28 --> 2038.20] You just called me out early. |
[2038.30 --> 2038.94] You're a diplomat. |
[2039.16 --> 2042.10] So if you say Kube Cuddle here in a bit, it's on purpose. |
[2042.40 --> 2042.76] That's on purpose. |
[2042.76 --> 2044.38] We're also going to say Cub Ectel, so. |
[2044.46 --> 2045.04] Cub Ectel. |
[2045.44 --> 2045.92] Oh gosh. |
[2046.60 --> 2047.50] Who says Cub Ectel? |
[2048.10 --> 2048.78] Well, if you want to hit all the variations. |
[2048.78 --> 2049.84] People say Cub Ectel? |
[2049.96 --> 2050.20] Yep. |
[2050.44 --> 2051.76] Is it for fun or is it for serious? |
[2051.76 --> 2053.12] Well, I've heard both ways. |
[2053.78 --> 2054.12] Wow. |
[2054.48 --> 2055.38] Why not, right? |
[2056.30 --> 2059.96] If you can interpret something 17 ways, why not be 18? |
[2060.16 --> 2060.56] It's true. |
[2061.10 --> 2068.04] I just think that maybe Kubernetes is so complex and intimidating that whenever we have people |
[2068.04 --> 2070.92] on and talk about it, we just bike shed the Kube Cuddle thing. |
[2071.86 --> 2072.48] What do you think? |
[2073.20 --> 2073.60] Sure. |
[2073.60 --> 2076.64] I feel like you and I always end up right here talking about the Cube Control. |
[2077.16 --> 2077.68] For sure. |
[2077.96 --> 2084.30] I mean, you can go to cubecontrol.info and it's a recording of Tim Hawken who originally |
[2084.30 --> 2086.16] wrote it saying how he pronounces it. |
[2086.36 --> 2087.70] I think we had Tim on the show back in the day. |
[2087.70 --> 2089.60] I talked to Tim forever ago, basically. |
[2089.86 --> 2090.50] The godfather. |
[2090.64 --> 2090.86] Yeah. |
[2090.90 --> 2092.10] When it first became a thing. |
[2092.32 --> 2092.58] Yeah. |
[2092.66 --> 2092.94] Nice. |
[2093.44 --> 2094.24] He was at Google then. |
[2094.30 --> 2094.88] Is he still at Google? |
[2094.92 --> 2095.60] He's still at Google. |
[2095.60 --> 2096.28] There you go. |
[2096.28 --> 2096.62] Yep. |
[2096.86 --> 2097.48] Good for you, Tim. |
[2098.06 --> 2098.42] Slay it. |
[2098.90 --> 2100.24] What should we know about the CLI? |
[2100.34 --> 2103.18] Like what's important with its development team, the SIG? |
[2103.38 --> 2104.22] Maintaining it. |
[2104.40 --> 2105.12] Maintaining it. |
[2105.38 --> 2105.64] Yeah. |
[2106.24 --> 2109.00] So one of the hardest things we have to do is say no to people. |
[2109.10 --> 2109.36] I bet. |
[2109.36 --> 2110.02] All day, right? |
[2110.44 --> 2115.60] I'm sure a lot of people have told you that, but everyone wants a short flag for everything. |
[2115.94 --> 2117.78] Everyone wants a long flag for everything. |
[2117.88 --> 2118.52] A lot of flags. |
[2118.72 --> 2121.56] Everyone wants every feature as a flag or command. |
[2121.64 --> 2123.24] What's the language of the CLI? |
[2123.38 --> 2123.86] It's all go. |
[2124.16 --> 2124.64] It's all go. |
[2124.78 --> 2125.02] Okay. |
[2125.26 --> 2125.58] Cobra. |
[2126.10 --> 2127.44] I've been doing a lot of Bash scripting. |
[2127.54 --> 2130.72] I'm like, you know, at some point I'm going to graduate from Bash to something else besides |
[2130.72 --> 2131.90] Bash, but it does a lot. |
[2132.20 --> 2132.46] Oh, yeah. |
[2132.46 --> 2136.52] Like Bash scripting is a lot of fun and it's pretty powerful, but I feel like that my next, |
[2136.72 --> 2138.98] if I keep going in this direction, go. |
[2139.62 --> 2139.82] Yeah. |
[2140.58 --> 2142.38] I mean, I feel like I'm learning Bash, right? |
[2142.50 --> 2142.80] Okay. |
[2143.00 --> 2146.96] I've never sat down to properly learn Bash and you can do a lot with it. |
[2147.06 --> 2147.30] Yeah. |
[2148.16 --> 2152.18] And thank God for ChatGPT because I'm learning Bash left and right because of ChatGPT. |
[2152.18 --> 2158.58] It's somewhat esoteric in my history, but I think having GPT would make it super easy |
[2158.58 --> 2159.54] to accomplish a lot of things. |
[2159.68 --> 2160.10] It is. |
[2160.10 --> 2163.90] I mean, there's a lot you can, I mean, you can iterate quite a lot with it, which is |
[2163.90 --> 2166.72] a side tangent from crafting a CLI with Go, but. |
[2166.78 --> 2166.94] Yeah. |
[2166.98 --> 2170.12] But even the looping and the conditionals inside the loops, there's weird times where |
[2170.12 --> 2172.00] you use the square brackets and you don't have to. |
[2172.08 --> 2172.88] And then there's the flags. |
[2173.22 --> 2175.98] There's like conditional flags inside of the loops and stuff. |
[2176.02 --> 2177.74] How many square brackets do you use? |
[2177.74 --> 2177.84] Yeah. |
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