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**Richard Feldman:** Oh, no.
**Jerod Santo:** It's just for fun?
**Richard Feldman:** Yeah. I mean, well, I'm doing it at work now, so I guess I'm getting paid to do Roc stuff...
**Jerod Santo:** Okay.
**Richard Feldman:** The goal is not to make money. The goal is to make a language that I want it to exist in the world.
**Jerod Santo:** Okay. Awesome. And it exists.
**Richard Feldman:** It does. Yeah. You can try it out right now.
**Jerod Santo:** But it's not finished, is it?
**Richard Feldman:** roc-lang.org. Definitely not finished, yeah.
**Adam Stacoviak:** roc-lang.
**Richard Feldman:** Yeah, exactly.
**Jerod Santo:** Like Rocafella Records.
**Richard Feldman:** Yeah. It's a mythical bird.
**Jerod Santo:** The Roc.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Is that what it is? Like Run DMC Roc? No. Who was that? Beastie Boys.
**Richard Feldman:** Jay Z. But no relation.
**Jerod Santo:** Jay Z I think, yeah.
**Adam Stacoviak:** Sorry about that.
**Jerod Santo:** No relations. \[laughs\]
**Richard Feldman:** Rocafella Records has no affiliation that I'm aware of with Roc the programming language.
**Jerod Santo:** Not yet, but future sponsorship...
**Adam Stacoviak:** He's open to an affiliation.
**Richard Feldman:** \[laughs\] You know, I haven't talked to him. I haven't seen him ever, so...
**Adam Stacoviak:** They \[unintelligible 00:29:46.02\] because he co-owns some parts of Block,
**Jerod Santo:** Oh, you could put Roc on the blockchain.
**Adam Stacoviak:** That's right.
**Richard Feldman:** There you go. Okay. Why WebAssembly? \[unintelligible 00:29:59.11\]
**Jerod Santo:** That's alright --
**Adam Stacoviak:** We're podcasting here. Come on my microphone.
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, it's recording, but here, come over and say it in the microphone so we can hear it.
**Adam Stacoviak:** This is Nikolai. He's got a question for our friend here, Richard Feldman.
**Richard Feldman:** Go for it.
**Nikolai Vasquez:** Hi, I'm Nikolai Vasquez. Why the focus on WebAssembly? What do you want to enable by having Roc work with WebAssembly?
**Jerod Santo:** See you later, Adam.
**Richard Feldman:** I would say there isn't a focus on WebAssembly. So Roc compiles to either machine code or to WebAssembly. Actually, almost all the use cases today are not WebAssembly. The one that's on the website is we have a web REPL. So you can try out the language right in the browser. And actually, the entire...
**Jerod Santo:** Do we have a follow-up?
**Nikolai Vasquez:** Oh, no. I'm very involved in the Rust community...
**Jerod Santo:** Okay.
**Nikolai Vasquez:** And it works very well with WebAssembly, so I was \[unintelligible 00:31:02.04\]
**Richard Feldman:** Oh, yeah. Well, Roc's compiler was written in Rust, so I'm very familiar with \[unintelligible 00:31:07.20\]
**Jerod Santo:** A lot of WASM love going on around here...
**Adam Stacoviak:** That's right.
**Jerod Santo:** Awesome.
**Adam Stacoviak:** I should have had a fourth mic.
**Richard Feldman:** \[laughs\]
**Jerod Santo:** Good point. Well, Richard, thanks for stopping by, man.
**Richard Feldman:** Yeah. Thanks for having me. That's it?
**Jerod Santo:** That's it.
**Richard Feldman:** Cool.
**Adam Stacoviak:** I appreciate you, man.