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**Paul Yu:** Geez... There was a lot of kids walking around at Scale yesterday, which is super-awesome, and I kept telling them, it's more than just the tech skills that you need; you also have to have the soft skills, the people skills. And I encourage everybody, go work a food job, go be a waiter, go be a hostess as ... |
**Autumn Nash:** Oh my God, I think that would change tech for the better, y'all. Being a woman in tech, please do that. Yes. It was so nice interviewing. Thanks, Paul. |
**Paul Yu:** Thank you. |
**Justin Garrison:** So thank you everyone who interviewed with us at Scale. Thank you everyone who came up to us and said hi, and attended the talks. It was great to meet you all. And anyone that's listening to this and wants to get involved with Scale for next year - again, this is a community-run event. It is a lot ... |
**Autumn Nash:** Best conference ever. |
• Discussion about upcoming podcast episode focusing on Git and Gitea |
• Justin Garrison's personal anecdotes about drinking Dr Pepper and trying to lose weight |
• Brief discussion about Rick Martin CDs with embedded rootkits in the early 2000s |
• Topic shift to a white paper on record-breaking fasting by Angus, who fasted for 382 days without eating but with medical supervision |
• Discussion of potential health risks associated with long-term fasting |
• Discussion of Justin Garrison's fasting and Autumn Nash's taco cleanse diet |
• Mention of a book on taco diets by Autumn Nash |
• Comparison of the healthiness of tacos vs gluten-free diets |
• Introduction of Matti Ranta as a guest on the show, discussing Gitea |
• Explanation of Gitea as an open-source developer platform similar to GitHub |
• Discussion of the scalability and infrastructure of hosting Gitea at scale |
• Complexity and operational challenges with Kubernetes and Ceph |
• Switching to single-server setup for simplicity and reduced complexity |
• Importance of failover process and ensuring site availability |
• Planning for scale and future needs, including using cloud-native technologies like EKS or GKE |
• Infrastructure planning and scalability issues related to global latency |
• Storage requirements for Git repositories, including the need for on-disk storage due to performance concerns |
• Roadmap plans for improving repository storage and scaling |
• Gitea is an open-source alternative to GitHub, with similar functionality |
• Gitea prioritizes self-hosting and data sovereignty over users' code |
• The project has received support from a corporate entity, which also provides bounties for maintainers |
• Gitea's business model differs from GitHub's, as it encourages self-hosting rather than relying on the hosted version |
• The conversation highlights the differences between Gitea and other popular Git platforms like GitHub and GitLab |
• A key goal of Gitea is to give users control over their own infrastructure and data |
• Git LFS limitations and differences with GitHub and GitLab |
• Benefits and drawbacks of using Git LFS for storing large binary files |
• Soft versus hard limits on repository sizes and storage |
• Abuse of compute power, storage, and file hosting by some users |
• Anti-abuse measures implemented in Gitea, including web hooks and automation |
• Challenges of scaling a platform with 70,000 accounts compared to private instances |
• LFS support was implemented to address ballooning repository sizes |
• S3 was used to offload large files from disk |
• Packages were added with support for various formats (e.g. Docker, Maven, npm) |
• CI/CD system was implemented and leveraged experience from other projects |
• Equinix Metal sponsored servers for testing software on ARM |
• Gitea maintainers contributed to other open source projects (e.g. drone.io, xgo) |
• GitHub Actions were made compatible with Gitea by implementing a connection between the server and runner |
• Kubernetes and Ceph as storage backend proved to be complex for managing a simple website |
• Switched to a single node instance for simplicity, allowing for vertical scaling |
• Added complexity with features like package management, LFS, and HA, but still encourage users to "run it themselves" |
• Utilized Terraform and autoscaling groups in cloud environments for easier management and scalability |
• Dogfooding own project by hosting most of Gitea's infrastructure on the flagship site |
• Challenges include migrating metadata from older systems with different mindsets |
• Importance of community feedback and advice in designing and maintaining infrastructure |
• Discussion of outdated car features and the price of cars |
• Comparison of software pricing models (e.g. Adobe Photoshop vs Gitea) |
• Artists' financial struggles with subscription-based services |
• Introduction to Git and Git Extras, a package for extending Git functionality |
• Examples of useful Git commands in Git Extras (e.g. git pr, git standup, git undo) |
• Git Extras provides a collection of scripts for automating Git tasks |
• git setup command initializes, adds, and commits files in a repository |
• Open source contributors can add new commands or features to Git Extras |
• Delete merged branches is an example feature that simplifies cleanup of Git repositories |
• Aliases and automation tools can be used with Git Extras commands |
**Justin Garrison:** Hello and welcome to Ship It, the podcast all about what happens after you git push. I'm your host, Justin Garrison, and with me today is Autumn Nash. How's it going, Autumn? |
**Autumn Nash:** We get to talk about Git today! |
**Justin Garrison:** I know, this is actually like a Git show, and so it's everything after git push, but today we're talking about some things that are kind of close to git push as well. But the main topic is an interview with Matti about Gitea. And of course, I made the bad joke that maybe this was like secrets and r... |
**Autumn Nash:** He asked for git Dr. Pepper, y'all. |
**Justin Garrison:** 23 flavors. Come on, that's what we want. |
**Autumn Nash:** The Slack community, the Twitter community, lets peer-pressure Justin into liking coffee or tea, because this is ridiculous at this point. |
**Justin Garrison:** I'm drinking a lot less Dr. Pepper, okay? I'm trying to lose some weight, and that's not helping me, so... It's a lot of water. |
**Autumn Nash:** It's so rude that Justin can eat so much candy, and drink Dr. Pepper, and just be like skinny. It's rude. |
**Justin Garrison:** I'm definitely not as skinny as I was... We're working on it, we're trying to get better, and it turns out that -- |
**Autumn Nash:** Okay, old man... |
**Justin Garrison:** You know what I have not stopped thinking about, which is -- |
**Autumn Nash:** Tacos? |
**Justin Garrison:** I don't think I sent you this one. The person who had the longest fast ever... How long do you think -- |
**Autumn Nash:** Dude, can we just talk -- I absolutely love your rando... How did you get a white paper about fasting? I thought we were about to talk about some infrastructure thing, and then you were like -- |
**Justin Garrison:** No, it was a medical research paper. |
**Autumn Nash:** This is almost as bad as th time when you had Venn diagrams of Ricky Martin - and what else was it? It was Ricky Martin and... |
**Justin Garrison:** It's not on my whiteboard anymore. "Livin la vida loca" was the overlap, but I don't remember what the middle was. Oh, unsigned kernel modules. |
**Autumn Nash:** Sometimes I get a text from you and I'm so confused. Like, I know he's gonna loop it back at some point, but until we get there, I -- |
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