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**Justin Garrison:** I mean, I bought my first Ricky Martin CD, so...
**Autumn Nash:** In 2024.
**Justin Garrison:** Yes. There is a rootkit on it. I needed to have the CD. I needed to have the physical copy, because if you have a Windows 2000 system, or XP maybe, it will install a rootkit, and that's fine.
**Autumn Nash:** Because of Ricky Martin?
**Justin Garrison:** Yes.
**Autumn Nash:** What?!
**Justin Garrison:** Okay, Sony decided -- Sony as the music company was having problems in the early 2000s, late '90s, of people copying their CDs. Apple's whole thing was like rip and burn your CDs and give them to your friends, basically. But rip and burn. And Sony assumed they were losing a lot of money, so they ha...
**Autumn Nash:** Also, do you remember the player skins?
**Justin Garrison:** Oh, Winamp skins are fire. I want that back.
**Autumn Nash:** Yeah, can we bring that back? Okay, sorry.
**Justin Garrison:** So they shipped it with embedded RealPlayer. But the file still exists; you could still like rip them out with something else. So what Sony decided to do was once you launch the CD is autorun would install a rootkit on your computer that would not allow you to see the files on the disk. And so it w...
\[08:02\] And so it was literally a worm before worms went over the internet. Because if you put this CD in someone else's computer, it would install the rootkit, and go all over again. So there was a big lawsuit, all this stuff happened, and they ended up \[unintelligible 00:08:13.28\]
**Autumn Nash:** It's like malware.
**Justin Garrison:** It is, exactly. But they licensed the software from another company, and they installed it on your computers.
**Autumn Nash:** And you're telling me that didn't waste more money, coming up with this process? Licensing this software, and then getting sued?
**Justin Garrison:** I'm not telling you that, I'm just telling you they had ideas...
**Autumn Nash:** Corporate America, okay...
**Justin Garrison:** But anyway, that was the first thing I'm talking about. The other thing I was talking about was like the fasting thing. I ended up on "How long is fasting healthy for you?" And this guy named Angus, back in the '60s - guess how long he had a fast for? He did not eat. He'd drink water and zero-calor...
**Autumn Nash:** How long?
**Justin Garrison:** 382 days.
**Autumn Nash:** No.
**Justin Garrison:** He did not eat for 382 days.
**Autumn Nash:** Food is the joys of life.
**Justin Garrison:** He lost 276 pounds.
**Autumn Nash:** I bet he did, but that sounds like a miserable existence.
**Justin Garrison:** The man did not poop...
**Autumn Nash:** Whoa, we went from white paper to poop.
**Justin Garrison:** This was in the white paper. This was fascinating. He pooped once every six weeks.
**Autumn Nash:** How do you find white papers on these things? Wait, I thought your body can only go without food for five days.
**Justin Garrison:** No. Man went over a year without eating. In the entire year he pooped like seven times.
**Autumn Nash:** But what was he pooping if he didn't eat? Okay, I have so many questions...
**Justin Garrison:** Red blood cells are supposedly like a majority, but I don't understand how this works. But he had medical supervision, and they had gave him supplements for like the vitamins he wasn't getting, and stuff... But it was like off and on. He's like "Oh, you don't need this anymore. Okay, go to the next...
**Autumn Nash:** Did he eat after this?
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah.
**Autumn Nash:** And how did his body just go back to digest --
**Justin Garrison:** It doesn't just go back. You have to really ease into that. In the white paper, there was links to other white papers of people that have died from long-term fasting... And the majority of them died from either having preconditions that were aggravated by the fasting, or by going back to eating in ...
**Autumn Nash:** So what you're saying is live happy, and eat tacos, is what you're saying.
**Justin Garrison:** If you have a taco diet, sure.
**Autumn Nash:** I have a whole book about taco diets. Hold on.
**Justin Garrison:** Taco diets. Trying to make a taco sound healthy.
**Autumn Nash:** But it is healthy.
**Justin Garrison:** Yeah, I'm gonna link to the white paper. I'll put it in the show notes. Actually, I'm just gonna put the Wikipedia page, because the white paper is linked in the references there, and that's how I've found it. And it was fascinating as an evening of how long can you go without eating.
Autumn, I don't need to see the book. Oh, she took \[unintelligible 00:11:04.05\] I believe it would exist. I don't need to see it.
**Autumn Nash:** I have too many books. \[unintelligible 00:11:13.03\]
**Justin Garrison:** Tacos are not healthy.
**Autumn Nash:** \[unintelligible 00:11:23.19\]
**Justin Garrison:** Look, I can show you my Ricky Martin CD. I have it right here.
**Autumn Nash:** Hold on, hold on...
**Justin Garrison:** The taco cleanse? It's like a cleanse diet?
**Autumn Nash:** Okay, hold up your Ricky Martin CD.