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**Amanda Silver:** And we'll be showing a demo of that tomorrow. |
**Jerod Santo:** Oh, cool. |
**Amanda Silver:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah, it's really just a big orchestration problem at the end of the day, and then underneath it you have your -- what do you guys call them? Not the frontier, but the Foundry. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Foundry, yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[unintelligible 00:54:24.19\] the models themselves. And I think it's really cool how much choice is available... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** So much. |
**Jerod Santo:** ...at the model level. Because I've even, in my personal use and in my coding use, have appreciated the ability just to swap these different ones, especially as they leapfrog each other in capabilities... |
**Amanda Silver:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** ...and I think it's really cool how many different models are available. |
**Amanda Silver:** Yeah. I mean, that's one of the things that I think has been really great about kind of bringing GitHub models into -- or bringing the AI Foundry model catalog into GitHub models, is it allows developers to be able to go kick the tires on all the different models that are out there. And they all have... |
And I think that the fact that we've integrated GitHub models -- sorry, an AI Foundry model catalog into GitHub models really does allow developers right in GitHub to go test these different models in a playground. And then further, because we have in VS Code the ability to select models as a part of your chat experien... |
**Jerod Santo:** That's awesome. No further questions... \[laughter\] I don't have any questions about that. I just think it's cool. And you're not the only ones who's doing that. A lot of people are, and I think it's great. I love just giving developers choice, versus saying "No, you're going to use this. It's the bes... |
**Amanda Silver:** \[56:10\] Always. Always. |
**Jerod Santo:** Don't do that to me. That being said, which one's the best one? \[laughter\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, I'm waiting for .agent to become a TLD. |
**Amanda Silver:** Oh, yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** That'd be a good one. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I mean, .ai is cool, but... |
**Jerod Santo:** .agent. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** .agent. Because then you'd have the secret.agent. |
**Amanda Silver:** Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** It's all for this one thing. |
**Amanda Silver:** Domain registered. Yeah. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yeah. That would be a good TLD, because I think there's going to be -- they're going to be selling agents like you're selling apps at this point. Don't you think? |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well, if there's a company well-positioned to sponsor in some way, shape, or form... Because we just learned about DNS with Anthony Eden, and how TLDs come into play... |
**Jerod Santo:** Right. You've gotta have lots of money to host a TLD. |
**Amanda Silver:** Yeah, there is a whole namespace question - how do you find all these different agents? How do you figure out which one you want to deploy for this particular problem? And I think that's one of the big next things. Both agents and tools, there's going to be -- just like there's a catalog for models, ... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** And the best way to catalog them is .agent. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It really is. I mean, if you're building an agentic web, this open agent web that's happening... .agent. |
**Amanda Silver:** Okay. I'll take it to the top. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Two more missions... I hope you don't mind. |
**Amanda Silver:** Alright. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** And just come back to me for any final sign-off on these ideas, and stuff. |
**Amanda Silver:** Love it. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I can give you more. |
**Amanda Silver:** Love it. |
**Jerod Santo:** So the advancements every year are interesting... It's moving very fast. Here we are, '25... If it were up to you, '26, the three of us sit down... You don't have to unveil any secret roadmaps or anything, but what would be going on next year this time if you were excited about it? What would be the ne... |
**Amanda Silver:** Well, first of all, I think the agents -- we've seen with agents just how powerful they are, and so we've seen a lot of promise. I think there's also a lot of peril in there as well. |
**Jerod Santo:** Yes. |
**Amanda Silver:** And what's going to start happening is that -- basically, a lot of folks are using them without real security controls. And so I think we're going to need to see more ways, to your point earlier, around "How do I audit and control all of these agents working throughout my enterprise or my team?" So I... |
**Jerod Santo:** Sure. |
**Amanda Silver:** We're going to start seeing a lot more controls in that sense. The other thing is, part of what we're seeing - and this has really only accelerated over the last three, four months as we've started to have capabilities like agent mode in VS Code, is the capabilities of the software development team a... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I think of it like giving somebody who -- the whole team, or the whole group of people you just mentioned, they all speak a language. Let's just say it's English, for just lack of better terms for this analogy. I think of it like these folks have a limit of vocabulary, and these folks have a limit o... |
**Amanda Silver:** Exactly. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Because you have the words, we have the words... We can share the words. That's called speaking, of course, as you know... But I feel like that's what it does. You now give them -- they all spoke English already, because they all understood some of the code, some of the design, some of these differe... |
**Amanda Silver:** \[59:53\] I completely agree with you. But I think that part of what's going to happen is that everyone is going to start contributing to the codebase more easily. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Which is better for the product. And the user, obviously... |
**Amanda Silver:** I think so, too... But I think we're already starting to see designers contribute code. In terms of like rather than handing a design over the wall, and say "Engineer go implement it", now the designer can actually go and, if they want rounded corners, they can get rounded corners to happen. Or if a ... |
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