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**Nathan Sobo:** Right, right. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** You are a human after all... |
**Nathan Sobo:** Thank you. I appreciate the grace there. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** ...not a golden retriever that's a genius on acid... You know what I'm saying? \[laughter\] |
**Jerod Santo:** You're not a golden retriever... |
**Nathan Sobo:** \[01:43:59.11\] My hair is getting long, but... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** But how confident do you feel in the business model you're trying to get to? Do you feel that is truly still the business model, where you're doing all the things you're doing because you have a passion for creating the next revolutionary thing for developers, this editor is it, all that good stuff?... |
**Nathan Sobo:** I mean, I can't guarantee. I have no way of perfectly predicting the future, but I still feel really strongly about that... That it's this -- of course it includes AI, right? And ultimately, we're still focusing on building a great experience, mostly, for individuals, and also individuals interacting w... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I don't think so. We're in the motion. And I didn't really mean to use that word in a pejorative manner, but I kind of did... |
**Nathan Sobo:** Oh, it's fine. I mean, I didn't take it that way. \[laughter\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I didn't mean any offense. I didn't mean any offense. I was just talking a lot about this, because I feel like -- I'm not steeped in Zed like you are, I'm not thinking about your vision on the daily, you know... And you are. And I'm just thinking, this feature that you're about to release, that you ... |
**Nathan Sobo:** A hundred percent. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** ...because those teams in those enterprises for sure are being told, allowed to, or maybe even demanded to use AI in ways to propel the business forward. And thus far you haven't had a great solution, like it is now. It's amazing. I feel like you're there. Like, this is the open door for you. |
**Nathan Sobo:** Thank you. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It's a great editor, but it was missing some modern components. |
**Nathan Sobo:** Yeah, exactly. And the funny thing is that's always been true - it's always been a great editor, but missing a few things, since it was a little baby and I couldn't even edit itself in it, you know? And then I edited some markdown in it because it didn't have syntax highlighting. And then I remember th... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I'm very hopeful for you. I think, especially as I took a moment to play with it during the call - which I'm glad you didn't mind me being silent for a moment or two just to get sort of enamored by this revolutionary device/thing that you've just given me to play with... So cool. I mean, I'm really ... |
**Nathan Sobo:** Yeah. I have a sense that that could be true. We'll see what happens. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Alright. |
**Nathan Sobo:** I'm excited for it, too. |
**Jerod Santo:** Great note to end on. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Where should folks go? If they're hearing this podcast, they listened the whole way and they're like "Okay, finally, where in the world do I go to learn more?" What is the best URL you can give us? |
**Nathan Sobo:** Well, zed.dev is the simplest one, and there'll be a banner right at the top pointing to agentic. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Okay. |
**Jerod Santo:** Our audience is smart. At this point, if they're still listening, they know how to get there. They'll find it. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** They're already there? Alright... |
**Jerod Santo:** Oh yeah, they're all over it. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** You think so, Jerod? |
**Jerod Santo:** I think so. |
**Nathan Sobo:** Zed.dev/agentic. |
**Jerod Santo:** He just picked a URL live on the show. |
**Nathan Sobo:** I did. I did. And I hope I don't have to make them change it, but it's a simple enough URL. Yeah, zed.dev/agentic. And if you want to see our prompts, it's zed.dev/leaked-prompts. |
**Jerod Santo:** Oh, man... |
**Nathan Sobo:** Zed.dev/leaked-prompts. |
**Jerod Santo:** I'm going to put that in Changelog News as if it's -- "Can you believe this? Zed leaked prompts", you know? It's going to be huge. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Do it. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] I've got to do it before the show goes out, otherwise nobody will get the joke. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I really think we -- yeah, it's gotta be good. |
**Jerod Santo:** I've gotta make sure the prompts are there. When are the prompts going to be there, Nathan? |
**Nathan Sobo:** They'll be there by May 7th. They'll be there. |
**Jerod Santo:** Okay, perfect. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Alright, man. That's cool. I like the live make up a URL and the reaction when I asked you where to go... \[laughter\] Priceless. Just priceless. Let's not edit that out, Jason. Leave that in there. That's good. That's good. Let's leave it in there. |
**Jerod Santo:** \[laughs\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** It just shows you -- I think it just shows you the raw nature of what it takes to innovate. |
**Nathan Sobo:** That's good... \[laughs\] |
**Adam Stacoviak:** I mean, you can't have all the questions answered. And you're not an idiot for not having that answer. I mean, there's nothing wrong with you for not having that plan. You're moving at the speed of innovation. I mean, we can't expect you to have it all together... And that's why we're here. We're he... |
**Nathan Sobo:** Yeah, I don't know... It's a very non-linear experience with me. I spike on certain dimensions of this vector more than others... And being always prepped with the right URL before the podcast or whatever isn't always my strong suit... But what I lack in any other dimension, I have in -- I really care.... |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Well said. Zed is not dead. Alive forever. Now with AI. Zed.dev/agentic, and also /leaked-prompts. Have fun. |
**Nathan Sobo:** Hell yeah. |
**Adam Stacoviak:** Have fun. |
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