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[115.22 --> 121.32] The book we're talking about is called Indistractable, and it is by Nir Eil and Julie Lee.
[121.86 --> 127.08] And the subtitle really sells the book, how to control your attention and choose your life.
[127.66 --> 128.48] I'm so excited.
[128.66 --> 128.94] Yeah.
[129.16 --> 136.06] I mean, who doesn't want to be able to hone their attention better so that they're less distracted, right?
[136.06 --> 139.18] By either what's going on inside or what's going on outside.
[140.02 --> 140.12] Yeah.
[141.00 --> 143.34] And this is not a book review, Nir.
[143.38 --> 151.02] If you're listening to this, if ever you listen to this, hey, if you know Nir, recommend this podcast, which may just be fodder for him because, hey, he wrote the book.
[151.34 --> 153.18] But, you know, we're not reviewing the book.
[153.24 --> 157.64] We're just pulling out some of the best parts we thought were really informative because we've been talking about distraction.
[157.72 --> 159.50] We've been talking about procrastination.
[159.50 --> 170.66] We've been talking about, you know, optimizing, you know, what are you optimizing for, spending your time wisely, talking about the way social relationships play into our overall health and life and physical health and fitness.
[171.02 --> 179.12] You know, and I think this book is a great example of like identifying, you know, what motivates us, what distraction is, how it plays a role.
[179.42 --> 180.70] He's got some cool stories in there.
[180.78 --> 182.68] But, I mean, this is such a great book.
[182.68 --> 191.08] So if you're listening to this thinking that was on my bookshelf or I want to read it sometime, pick it up, start reading it today and learn what distraction is in your life.
[191.20 --> 198.34] For me, you know, the biggest thing I took away was like how distraction originates from this need to escape.
[198.64 --> 202.34] And the thing you're escaping from is psychological discomfort.
[202.66 --> 202.82] Yep.
[202.82 --> 212.74] And that's just crazy to think like the reason I'm distracted, the reason why, you know, I can't get things done or in certain areas as I examine my life is like, well, I'm distracted.
[213.48 --> 219.84] And I'm trying to escape from physical or mental pain that is associated with that thing, whatever it is.
[219.84 --> 222.28] And it's all about identifying those things.
[222.78 --> 224.20] Name of the team that comes to play here.
[224.20 --> 231.10] And, you know, a lot of this, what I loved about the book is a lot of it is like summarization of the things we've been really camping out on for a while now.
[231.10 --> 240.60] Yeah, you know, it's interesting being in the field of psychology and providing, you know, psychotherapy, helping people change their lives, change themselves for the better.
[240.80 --> 247.36] I had a professor when I was in graduate school who talked a lot about sort of the business format in this field.
[247.36 --> 255.22] And it struck me so much at that time because he said, look, it's not other psychologists or professionals that are your competition.
[255.68 --> 258.60] He said it's everything else that makes people feel good.
[258.60 --> 264.14] So the amount that they could spend on getting treatment psychologically, they could buy a new car.
[264.68 --> 265.62] They could go on a vacation.
[265.90 --> 271.08] They could do a myriad of other things that would provide alternative benefits.
[271.84 --> 272.24] Yeah.
[272.62 --> 273.20] Isn't that crazy?
[273.20 --> 273.38] That's so true.
[273.56 --> 273.82] Right?
[274.38 --> 275.40] I hadn't considered that.
[275.48 --> 276.46] That would be your competition.
[276.62 --> 278.96] I would think like maybe the competition was, yeah, I suppose.
[279.06 --> 279.18] Yeah.
[279.18 --> 282.16] Like competition is like how I might spend my money to feel better.
[282.16 --> 282.80] Right.
[283.02 --> 291.72] Because the whole point with mental health therapy and the kind of things that psychologists do for their patients is, you know, we've talked about this before.
[292.16 --> 295.68] Thinking differently, seeing your problems differently from different angles.
[296.18 --> 301.60] I'd never really consider that my choice would be therapy or feeling better by buying a car or.
[302.08 --> 302.22] Right.
[302.30 --> 306.64] But think of all these other things that distract you away from the pain that you're feeling.
[306.64 --> 312.18] So people come to me out of this place of pain of like, I don't know what to do.
[312.28 --> 314.24] I've gotten to, you know, the end of my rope.
[314.34 --> 316.92] I've exhausted all the skills, strategies, things I've known.
[317.04 --> 323.20] And usually even tried other things that haven't provided the dividends that they desire.
[323.32 --> 325.40] So it's sort of like here's the last ditch effort.
[326.20 --> 332.24] But this is also why I tell people when I start working with them that my goal is ultimately to work myself out of a job.
[332.24 --> 335.80] Because some people will think, well, they just want you to keep coming.
[335.90 --> 337.04] And it's like, no, no, no, no, no.
[337.10 --> 342.46] If you're actually doing the work, which ironically involves pain, right?
[343.10 --> 343.42] Yeah.
[343.72 --> 351.06] The goal is that you would have less pain because you've been able to work through the things that were causing the pain.
[351.06 --> 357.18] So you feel different, i.e. happier, more content, more fulfilled, more connected.
[357.92 --> 364.86] So one of my favorite takeaways or things from this book is really we talk so much about application, right?
[364.92 --> 369.00] It doesn't just knowledge in and of itself isn't enough.
[369.16 --> 372.42] But rather, what do you need to do in terms of action?
[372.42 --> 384.30] And the way in which the author writes this is so good for just like little nuggets, not just, hey, here's the little data or explanation relative to why you're getting distracted.
[385.02 --> 391.96] But one, here's a mental framework to help you sort of keep it in picture or in mind as you're trying to do differently.
[392.18 --> 394.86] And here's a little nugget that you could do differently.
[395.18 --> 399.54] So you don't necessarily even have to read the book in one fell swoop.
[399.54 --> 407.04] Like you could just sit down and read, you know, one section or one part as the book is broken up into five different parts.
[407.58 --> 413.92] And then one really cool thing that we'll come back to at the end is that he includes actually a book discussion at the end.
[414.08 --> 425.50] So if you wanted to actually get a crew of people, i.e. get connected differently and have conversations around how you could implement some of these things, it's already templated for you.
[425.50 --> 434.84] I love that so much really about books that that you don't have to read linearly, you know, to get chapter five, you have to read chapter three.
[435.10 --> 441.40] I mean, that makes sense in, you know, let's say a novel or something like that or a storybook or something like that.
[441.46 --> 445.04] Totally makes sense. Right. I mean, obviously, you need to follow along with the story.
[445.04 --> 455.90] But in this case, like if you just want to understand, you know, how you can make time for traction, you could just jump into part two and dive into the chapters there, you know, and kind of use that as a guide point.
[456.40 --> 460.52] And so, like, honestly, I haven't read the whole book. I've read parts of the book.
[460.76 --> 468.02] So there was one part of the book is like, hey, if you want to just jump ahead to this part to skip these areas because you got these down or you just want to like go right to doing.
[468.02 --> 473.08] I went right to doing. So I went to chapter five, you know, how to make your workplace indistractable.
[473.12 --> 476.26] And I was like, I want to go right to the doing part of things because I'm a doer.
[476.36 --> 478.66] I learned by doing. And so I did that.
[478.94 --> 483.80] So but I still did go back and read some of the chapters and and take notes and stuff like that.
[483.80 --> 490.14] But I love when you can just jump into chapters that peek out at you and read those and get something from them.
[490.14 --> 500.06] Yeah. So he starts out by noticing that distractions will always exist, but managing them is our responsibility.
[501.50 --> 505.56] Right. Like if you're distracted by your phone, that might help you.
[505.90 --> 508.88] Yeah. But it's not going to cure the distraction forever.
[508.88 --> 517.98] It may be a distracting point and something you use, you know, to, I guess, perpetuate your distraction, the discomfort you're feeling there.
[518.48 --> 523.26] But, you know, just putting your phone away or doing a detox, you always come back to it.
[523.32 --> 531.88] It's going to exist. So it's something deeper that the root cause is beyond just simply, oh, this shiny device in my pocket buzzing or whatever.
[532.02 --> 533.48] It's the root cause is much deeper.
[533.66 --> 538.22] Right. I mean, I think about how many times I sit down at my computer to do work.
[538.88 --> 542.14] And then I have these like pop-up thoughts, right?
[542.18 --> 544.86] Like, oh, I forgot to do this thing. Let me check that super quick.
[544.86 --> 545.06] Right.
[545.32 --> 547.38] And like, oh, because I'm at my computer.
[547.60 --> 554.16] So I have all of this access at my fingertips and nothing else to sort of provide constraints.
[554.44 --> 561.28] So it's like, unless I do anything sort of deliberate, like set a timer and see how fast I can get this work done.
[562.08 --> 562.52] Right.
[562.52 --> 562.60] Right.
[563.90 --> 569.40] I'm prone to deviate away because it's like, oh, I'm just going to close that file tab in my brain.
[569.40 --> 570.88] Oh, let me close that one, too.
[571.00 --> 576.02] And before I know it, you know, I'm just clicking away, trying to somewhat get things off my plate.
[576.22 --> 579.64] But I mean, I'm just going on little tangents left and right.