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[929.34 --> 929.90] Yeah.
[930.22 --> 930.66] Yesterday.
[932.16 --> 932.70] Right.
[932.70 --> 935.56] The one that resonated with me in that list was rumination.
[936.06 --> 936.46] Yeah.
[936.74 --> 939.80] Which is our tendency to keep thinking about bad experiences.
[939.92 --> 942.26] Or if you've ever chewed on something, this is quoting from his book.
[942.48 --> 954.26] If you've ever chewed on something in your mind that you did or that someone did to you or over something that you didn't have, but you wanted it and you did it over and over and over again, unable to stop thinking about it.
[954.26 --> 956.64] You just experienced what's called rumination.
[957.62 --> 957.78] Yeah.
[958.34 --> 959.46] Like I do that.
[959.70 --> 960.42] I do that.
[960.82 --> 961.26] Yeah.
[961.70 --> 964.80] So this name entertainment thing, like that makes sense to me.
[964.86 --> 973.72] So now when I'm like in those thoughts, if I'm, if I catch myself as the scientist gathering data, if I catch myself ruminating, I'm like, Adam, you're ruminating.
[974.34 --> 977.10] This is not a healthy pattern for you to do.
[977.96 --> 979.92] So in at least these things.
[980.84 --> 982.80] So find a way to eject.
[982.80 --> 984.80] If that's my triggers, find a way to get out of that.
[984.88 --> 985.18] Yeah.
[985.36 --> 988.62] That thinking, that pattern of thinking, or at least identifying it.
[989.12 --> 993.90] Like, listen, you're ruminating out right now over these things that you can't control, you can't do.
[993.94 --> 996.12] And it's just, you can't stop thinking about it.
[996.52 --> 997.30] You got to put eject.
[998.20 --> 998.56] Right.
[998.56 --> 1012.34] So this is what I talk about a lot when working with patients is recognizing those kinds of, you know, ways of thinking or behaviors and going, not just the awareness, but like, why is this going on for me?
[1012.34 --> 1016.20] Like, what is a signal of ruminating to you?
[1016.52 --> 1019.72] Like, is there something that you haven't dealt with?
[1019.72 --> 1021.94] Or is there something that you're not settled with?
[1021.94 --> 1028.40] And you're like, I need to go around this mulberry bush again and again so that I feel like at peace with it.
[1028.40 --> 1033.70] Or is it, like we've talked about in other episodes, relative to perfectionism?
[1034.14 --> 1037.38] Like, I don't want to put myself out there in that vulnerable way.
[1037.54 --> 1045.38] So like, ooh, maybe if I do it this way or say it that way or X, Y, or Z, I can avoid critique or criticism.
[1045.38 --> 1047.74] I mean, there can be a myriad of things.
[1047.86 --> 1051.12] But this is why it's like, here's the top layer of the onion.
[1051.52 --> 1053.72] Let me peel back another layer to the onion.
[1054.12 --> 1055.62] So rumination is on the top.
[1055.70 --> 1058.02] Or we could even go distraction, rumination.
[1058.48 --> 1060.62] And underneath that, like, what's under there?
[1061.18 --> 1062.62] Can you lift up that rock and look?
[1063.32 --> 1063.52] Yeah.
[1063.72 --> 1064.34] What is it?
[1064.46 --> 1064.78] Tell me.
[1065.16 --> 1065.72] Right?
[1066.52 --> 1067.00] Yeah.
[1067.00 --> 1070.68] No, it could be so many different things.
[1071.20 --> 1083.94] But that's why it's so valuable to investigate and examine in greater depth instead of just, like, getting upset with yourself of, like, gosh, Adam, here you're doing it again.
[1084.14 --> 1085.60] What's wrong with you?
[1085.60 --> 1092.18] And now you're stuck sort of criticizing or condemning yourself for something that is, you know, very common.
[1092.74 --> 1096.84] But it's just a signal or an indicator light of something else.
[1097.00 --> 1097.48] Yeah.
[1098.08 --> 1101.52] It is around something unsettled when I find myself doing it.
[1101.86 --> 1105.82] And in all honesty, there's times when actually rumination can be positive.
[1106.18 --> 1113.60] Because there's a variation of rumination that's where I'm examining a scenario, maybe an unsettled scenario, you know, whatever it might be.
[1113.60 --> 1127.88] And I'm just, like, looking at all the different facets of what really happened to get a more clear perspective or maybe even a multifaceted perspective on whatever the series of events were, whatever the conversation was, whatever the scenario was.
[1128.22 --> 1131.10] So there's, you know, positive things that can come from it.
[1131.28 --> 1132.94] It's when it's uncontrollable.
[1133.80 --> 1133.98] You know?
[1134.34 --> 1134.68] Yeah.
[1134.68 --> 1138.06] The key word in his book says unstoppable.
[1138.26 --> 1139.18] You can't stop.
[1139.68 --> 1139.78] Yeah.
[1140.00 --> 1142.70] That's where I think, like, that's where I'm like, pump the brakes.
[1143.20 --> 1144.00] Do what you say.
[1144.12 --> 1145.10] What's going on here?
[1145.42 --> 1146.82] Where is this originating from?
[1147.34 --> 1150.70] And, you know, going back to time management being pain management.
[1151.14 --> 1158.20] In his book, I'm going to quote from his book, if distraction costs us time, then time management is pain management.
[1158.42 --> 1158.82] Yes.
[1158.82 --> 1161.72] Like, I'm trying to avoid pain here.
[1162.10 --> 1163.62] You know, I want to use my time wisely.
[1163.90 --> 1167.56] And rumination isn't exactly always wise use of my time.
[1168.04 --> 1168.30] Right.
[1168.88 --> 1169.32] Yeah.
[1169.78 --> 1176.22] Well, and so, right, both sides of the coin would be, like, looking at what's feeding the ruminating.
[1176.26 --> 1186.68] But at the same time, looking at how can I set up some guardrails so that I'm not spending my time in that way so that it's less painful.
[1186.68 --> 1188.58] What about motivation?
[1188.76 --> 1191.26] I mean, like, we're all motivated by something.
[1192.04 --> 1196.96] If we're optimizing for something, right, we want to go a direction for a reason.
[1197.72 --> 1205.12] And in his book, he says the drive to relieve discomfort is the root cause of all of our behavior, while everything else is an approximate cause.
[1205.66 --> 1211.76] Now, we've said before, every choice you make is essentially not to die, right, which would be discomfort.
[1211.96 --> 1213.52] That's uncomfortable to die.
[1213.52 --> 1219.52] So that means that all of our choices essentially take us to a path of comfort or discomfort.
[1220.32 --> 1220.52] Yeah.
[1220.76 --> 1225.18] Well, motivation is to have comfort.
[1225.42 --> 1240.78] But I have to say, there's a myriad of things relative to that because our experiences or biases or ways in which we've been conditioned relative to comfort or discomfort is also a facet of that, right?
[1240.78 --> 1246.40] I mean, who has the same pain threshold or sort of motivation?
[1247.18 --> 1249.74] Well, everybody's had different experiences.
[1249.98 --> 1254.18] Everybody's got a different personality, genes, and on and on.
[1254.38 --> 1264.90] And so recognizing that discomfort is a part of that, but that discomfort to some degree is learned, right?
[1264.90 --> 1268.36] Like, a sign if I believe.
[1268.52 --> 1268.86] That's true.
[1269.02 --> 1278.02] I mean, part of this, too, having been, you know, in athletics throughout my childhood, it was being able to differentiate different kinds of pain, right?
[1278.08 --> 1279.02] Like, am I hurt?
[1279.12 --> 1280.00] Like, am I injured?
[1280.28 --> 1281.42] Do I need to stop training?
[1282.08 --> 1283.84] Or am I uncomfortable?
[1283.84 --> 1293.14] And this is unpleasant because I feel like I can't breathe because I'm pushing my body as far as it can go or my muscles, etc.
[1293.84 --> 1298.66] So understanding the discomfort that I'm feeling doesn't mean I need to cease.
[1299.14 --> 1301.12] It just means it's hard and uncomfortable.