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[1302.48 --> 1302.92] Yeah.
[1303.02 --> 1305.32] I love the distinction about pain, though.
[1305.34 --> 1307.92] It's like, are you injured or are you just hurt?
[1308.06 --> 1308.30] Yeah.
[1308.48 --> 1309.70] Because if you're injured, you've got to stop.
[1310.08 --> 1311.02] You've got to go get medical help.
[1311.38 --> 1311.66] Yeah.
[1311.66 --> 1316.46] But if you're hurt, you know, it's in many cases, it's psychological.
[1316.76 --> 1322.88] So I do like the drive here is like, you know, discomfort and comfort is learned and based on our bias.
[1324.00 --> 1324.18] Sure.
[1324.54 --> 1324.84] Right.
[1324.92 --> 1332.10] And so what have you repeated and what have you sort of done over and over that tells you this is uncomfortable?
[1332.60 --> 1335.60] And I would say that there's a lot of associations.
[1336.44 --> 1336.88] Right.
[1336.88 --> 1352.04] Like if I'm looking at the way in which emotion and memory work together by past experiences, my brain is going to be motivated differently because one thing was more unpleasant than another.
[1352.04 --> 1352.48] Right.
[1352.48 --> 1352.72] Right.
[1352.72 --> 1362.44] I think I've shared this, but I remember when I was training, you know, and I was an adolescent at the time living in the desert climate.
[1362.44 --> 1367.18] And we used to train beyond school hours during the summer.
[1367.34 --> 1370.74] And so I would have trained for about four to five hours.
[1370.74 --> 1380.60] And then before we could eat lunch, I had to go outside and run for a few laps in like 105 to 115 degree heat.
[1380.84 --> 1388.00] And so I never enjoyed running for the longest time because the association was discomfort.
[1388.34 --> 1389.82] I'm like, this sucks.
[1390.52 --> 1391.54] I just want to eat.
[1391.54 --> 1392.96] I've trained.
[1392.96 --> 1395.16] I've depleted my energy stores.
[1395.16 --> 1396.96] Like, I just want to chill out.
[1397.96 --> 1397.98] But.
[1398.14 --> 1399.02] But I couldn't.
[1399.46 --> 1403.34] And so, right, running in and of itself isn't a negative.
[1403.34 --> 1420.64] But recognizing, okay, if I'm not prone or I don't necessarily want to run or be outside in that way, like, hey, it's likely relevant or relative to experiences I had in the past wherein I didn't like it.
[1420.64 --> 1433.22] So now I've labeled that as discomfort or painful and now aversive, which I want to not feel.
[1434.08 --> 1441.34] So maybe even another way of thinking of distraction is looking at what we don't want to feel.
[1441.72 --> 1442.44] Right?
[1442.84 --> 1443.36] Right.
[1443.88 --> 1444.62] The opposite.
[1444.78 --> 1444.98] Yeah.
[1445.46 --> 1446.52] We're talking motivation.
[1446.52 --> 1447.94] Like, what motivates me?
[1447.94 --> 1456.32] Well, making progress, feeling good, feeling like there's sort of more of what I want.
[1457.58 --> 1460.28] You know, it happens a lot, too, in many successful things.
[1460.38 --> 1465.06] The one way to think about a framework to use is not what do you want to be?
[1465.34 --> 1466.72] It's what do you not want to be?
[1467.68 --> 1470.68] So in this case, what do you not want to feel?
[1471.14 --> 1471.44] Sure.
[1471.44 --> 1471.74] Right.
[1471.74 --> 1472.10] Right.
[1472.78 --> 1478.46] If running, like, I couldn't imagine running in the summertime here in Houston because, like, it's so humid.
[1478.90 --> 1481.84] I think it was, like, 87 yesterday temperature-wise.
[1482.04 --> 1482.26] Right.
[1482.46 --> 1491.22] But the humidity was so high that the weatherman said it was actually felt like it was near the hundreds because of, like, it was 87 degrees.
[1491.22 --> 1495.00] But the humidity took it way up there in terms of felt heat.
[1496.02 --> 1499.66] So I'm not going to be motivated to go out there and run.
[1500.02 --> 1502.08] And that's not pleasurable to me.
[1502.14 --> 1503.08] That's not comfortable to me.
[1503.08 --> 1504.10] That is not comfortable.
[1504.46 --> 1505.96] That is discomfort to me.
[1506.68 --> 1508.10] So I'm going to avoid that.
[1508.10 --> 1525.58] But the framework, the mental framework to consider, though, whether you're building something, whether you're making something, building a company, building a life, defining your life, what you optimize for, identifying your values, what you want to go towards, what's valuable to you, is sometim...
[1525.66 --> 1526.00] Sure.
[1526.52 --> 1527.48] Versus what do you want to be?
[1528.10 --> 1530.98] That might be easier to identify those things.
[1530.98 --> 1531.38] Yeah.
[1532.14 --> 1545.30] And I think for people to recognize, like, motivation is always going to involve some other aspect that we find aversive, uncomfortable, all of those things we would like to avoid.
[1545.44 --> 1550.52] Hence why, you know, we're distracted away from what we'd like to do.
[1550.82 --> 1558.80] And this is why I sort of work with people and try to help them recognize desire, right, what we're talking about with motivation.
[1558.80 --> 1561.02] Like, well, how bad do you want it?
[1561.44 --> 1565.10] And not, like, you have to be, like, so gritty.
[1565.30 --> 1567.54] I want to get this thing so bad.
[1567.58 --> 1571.80] But, like, where is your desire alongside the discomfort?
[1572.62 --> 1578.74] Because I want that to be part of the equation as well, that you recognize, hey, I still want this.
[1578.74 --> 1580.98] I don't like this aspect of it.
[1581.18 --> 1596.08] But I'm going to do this thing that is uncomfortable and aversive and work hard to get traction and minimize distraction because I really want to make headway towards my goals.
[1596.08 --> 1596.48] Yeah.
[1598.02 --> 1599.50] Well, the key there is goals.
[1599.86 --> 1601.88] And to have goals, you have to have values.
[1602.00 --> 1607.30] And so you have to understand what you actually value, which is very difficult, I suppose.
[1607.46 --> 1615.46] Like, there are some people who don't seem to have a way, will even self-admit, I don't seem to have a way, career-wise, trajectory.
[1615.46 --> 1620.72] So they either need, you know, as we've said before, a tribe to associate with.
[1620.94 --> 1630.66] We can talk about the way that our relationships and social interactions play into our health and mental health and physical health, et cetera.
[1630.78 --> 1637.52] But it comes down to finding out what it is that I value, you know, what it is that I see as valuable.
[1637.52 --> 1654.84] So if time management is pain management and distraction is moving towards or away from discomfort, then that means I've got to identify the things that I value so that I can align my life and all the traction I want to go towards the things that I find valuable.
[1655.16 --> 1657.52] Yeah, I loved this in the book Indestructible.
[1658.22 --> 1661.68] He quotes Russ Harris, who is author of The Happiness Trap.
[1661.68 --> 1672.48] He describes values as how we want to be, what we want to stand for, and how we want to relate to the world around us.
[1672.92 --> 1682.72] And, like, we've talked about perspective a lot throughout our conversations, but that really is a sort of zooming out of the lens to see more panoramic, right?
[1682.72 --> 1696.74] Like, what is the broader stroke that I want to have for my life so that it literally sort of provides the guardrails or template for my choices and actions, right?
[1697.94 --> 1701.18] I love the quote or the – I love the question you have here in the notes.
[1701.34 --> 1703.26] What is keeping you from your top speed?
[1704.56 --> 1705.48] I love that.
[1705.78 --> 1711.36] Like, that's what you're talking about here, these guardrails, these fences, these containers helping you to find this path.
[1711.36 --> 1714.00] It goes on to say a value is like a guiding star.
[1714.18 --> 1718.14] It's the fixed point we use to help us navigate our life choices.
[1719.02 --> 1725.62] And so recognizing not just what we want to do, but, like, why we're going to do it.
[1725.78 --> 1729.94] Like, you know, why did I go to school for as long as I did?
[1730.40 --> 1735.68] Because there is a fair amount of discomfort relative to that process and even after that.
[1736.74 --> 1739.72] But I care about people.
[1739.72 --> 1743.50] It was something I really wanted to learn about.
[1744.28 --> 1759.08] And so no amount of sort of discomfort, like, deterred me along the way, even when I understood sort of the lower levels of the – base levels of the onion that drove me to, you know, pursue this line of work.
[1759.32 --> 1759.68] Yeah.