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[S1] I got, I was aware of it for about a year and I really, nothing I'd been in had come out yet. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So I knew it was going to be like a he-
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[S1] be an actor who like waves, like, like sells his struggle or something to validate the role or something. Because what Nick Sheff actually went through is always going to be way crazier than what I would have gone through acting it. And yet, just to, you know, sometimes I feel like your mind knows you're acting, b...
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[S1] That's, uh, well, it, it t- it totally depends on the circumstance and, I guess, the role. But that's, it's funny that you mention that because I've, like, was in- insanely anxious as a child and a therapist told me once that if you're ever, like, in panic- [S2] I've read about this. [S1] But, but they said to me,...
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[S1] And we don't have to like talk about that 'cause like it's not so much movies, it's more like mental health and stuff. But I remember reading something about that where you said that when you were younger you dealt with that kind of stuff. And truly, I'm not even just saying this, this was around when, I'm getting...
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[S1] Um, successful, whatever that means. And, uh, I don't know, do you ever think about, like, I did this roundtable yesterday with a lot of actors, and it's so interesting 'cause there's all these machinations that play now. People have the, like, their representatives there and things like that. And yet, when it com...
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[S1] But when, did you ever, were you working as you were like still an adolescent? Um, like how old were you when you did- [S2] Not, I mean, I moved to LA when I was 15 and I, um, by the time, Super Bowl was when I was 17 and then it's been pretty much going since then. [S1] Okay. [S2] And I just turned 30, 10 days ag...
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[S1] And like, so I think I knew a lot of kids that were like going up for things when you were like six or seven, 'cause like everybody's parent, or, or not literally, but it's more of a common thing. And I kinda worked intermittently, but I never totally vibed with it, and it felt kinda fake, and I, and I'm actually ...
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[S1] 15. [S2] But that's what I was gonna ask, is like, because I didn't, I didn't, I worked just enough so when I was 19 and I dropped out, I had a weird like, um, like, like desire to be a part of that more. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And it, but it didn't stunt me. And then I guess, it's a big cliche, but you see it, like, stu...
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[S1] ... like shoestring budgets. And then I went in for Spider-Man, I went in for those things, and I didn't get them. And those are like pre-packaged, "You will be famous after this," kind of thing. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And those, Call Me By Your Name and Lady, they really weren't. Like, we were making like art house movi...
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] I don't know if it's been your experience, but I feel like the more, even right now doing this with you, like, I have met very few bad eggs, I feel like. Um, and I think it's luck too. Like Steve Carell and- [S1] So- [S2] ... Armie McConaughey and Lily Rabe and Julia Hart and Greta, like, these are grea...
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[S1] And like you said before, I feel like influenced by my environment a lot. When I act, that's why I really don't like to act on stages. I want to act like the actual, tactile, real things. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And to just be in that state was like, yeah, it was jarring. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And jarring for people around me...
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[S1] Oh, God, blah, blah, blah. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Like a terrible part of Texas. Um, I, uh, so the preparation for that, it wasn't, it wasn't too extensive because we had a long rehearsal process- [S2] Okay. [S1] ... where the year goes. Um- [S2] What's long, like three weeks? [S1] Like three weeks. [S2] Okay. [S1] And, ...
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[S1] ... and it was so fun. [S2] Your face is so amazing in that scene because I don't know, and you don't have to define it for me, but I don't know, it looks like it's trepidation at first, but then you really lean into it and it's like, "Oh my God, is she enjoying this?" [S1] She was- [S2] There's a lot that happens...
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[S1] about other things or because he wants- [S2] He kind of like lets you do your thing and then he can gauge it from there, which I actually kind of used to that process and I really enjoy it because it gives you a lot of freedom to sort of, I mean, I love getting in there and being really, you know, like really digg...
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[S1] Well, another week. [S2] Yeah. And what a week. [S1] What a week again. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Every week it's a, what a week again. [S2] And there, there, there's, right now, everybody's meeting at the, uh, at the big bank meeting. [S1] Yes. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] And right now, it just doesn't seem that- [S2] There's no objective measurement. I remember we talked about this before, a year ago, including the IMF and OECD and the others, talked about inflation for this year, 2022, will be 2.5 to 2.8%. [S1] Yeah, but even back then we said, "No way." [S2] No way. But, well, t...
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[S1] to t- to take a very simple example. You're absolutely right. The IMF talk about less government interference, free market. [S2] Yeah, and, and at the same time, you know, starve the poor. [S1] That's right. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So- [S2] Tringle down theory. Let, let the rich get richer and everything will be fine. ...
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[S1] It's never worked in the past. [S2] Yeah. [S1] The US has put its sights on how many countries over these many years, uh, Russia's in the crosshairs. Before then it was, uh, you know, Venezuela, Iran, uh, you, you go on into Cuba. Cuba's been in the crosshairs for what, 60, 70 years. [S2] [LAUGHS] 60 years. [S1] A...
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[S1] And maybe it's time to try something a little different. [S2] If you look at the United States, Donald Trump, try something different. Very frank, very blatant, very honest, America first. Screw you all, right? [S1] Yeah, but how- [S2] Now you have it. [S1] How is that a strategy for your neighbors and friends and...
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[S1] That's right. [S2] I mean, I don't even know what that means. But talking along those lines, we always talk 63% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. Now that was earlier this year. Now 71% are saying that wages are not keeping up with inflation. [S1] It's factual. Wages could not keep up with inflation. [...
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[S1] The way it went nuts was also a little crazy. It started off down a couple hundred points- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... and ended up 800 points, a swing of over a thousand point. Looks like the speculators are running amok. [S2] Yeah, but I, I mean, we're gonna hear more about this because whatever somebody was trying, eit...
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[S1] Just to explain it simply, when you have inflation and you want to make money, you have to get more money than inflation. So if inflation's at 8.2%, all right, and you want to make 10% on your money, right, you have to have 18.2% return. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And right now, I don't see anything out there, but that wo...
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[S1] That's why I, that's why I feel that this asset bubble in the US, downside at least 30%. [S2] Wow. That, that will wipe out- [S1] A lot of wealth. [S2] ... trillions of dollars. [S1] That's right. A lot of wealth. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It's already happened in Europe. 10% inflation in Germany. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And then t...
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[S1] I don't think you can eat those or heat your home with them. [S2] That's right. [S1] So it'd be interesting to see how that goes. So, talking about more than two in every five Americans say a civil war is possible. And that was according to a survey of 1500 Americans by YouGov and The Economist. Are, are you shock...
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[S1] I'm not shocked. The polarization has really gone beyond anything I've seen or we have seen, given our age and our timeline. Um, it was pretty bad in the late '60s, early '70s. Kent State National Guard shooting students. [S2] Yeah. Um, Civil Rights marches- [S1] That's right. [S2] ... where cops were beating, uh-...
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[S1] East. [S2] Yeah, we, we were, we were talking about that. I mean, Saudi Arabia is being blamed for taking two million barrels per day, but I checked the statistics. Uh, demand is scheduled to go down by between three and five million barrels per day. [S1] That's right. That's right. [S2] So if you keep two million...
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[S1] And they're quite clearly signaling that there is going to be no cracks in the OPEC plus. [S2] Plus. [S1] Yeah. Very interesting. I mean, it's just, it seems like things are turning very, very quickly. Not only the global south, including the Middle East, Africa, South America, ASEAN, uh, and Central Asia. [S2] Th...
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[S1] But is that going to work again? [S2] No. [S1] I mean, you fool me once, shame on me. Shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. [S2] That's right. [S1] And, I mean, I, I look at SEO right now. It is not a defensive alliance or anything like that. But, you know, five, you know, it started out with five countries. N...
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[S1] ... including all the Gulf states. [S2] That's right. [S1] Which is kind of, uh, really interesting. [S2] It's the only, I think, uh, regional organization in which both India and Pakistan participate actively. [S1] Productivity in the US is down 4.1%. It looks like employment is really strong, but two million wor...
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[S1] And that's, and there's another aspect to the designer. I think when you lose productivity, right? Meanwhile, you're trying to onshore manufacturing from Europe. [S2] Well- [S1] It doesn't make any sense to me. [S2] How does that work? We're not doing well, but we want you to come here and do- [S1] And do, do it- ...
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[S1] Uh, are so bad. [S2] That's right. [S1] And he just, he doesn't understand it. And I, I, I think this is, you know, when, when you live in this situation, you get used to it. But when you go away and then you come back, you really notice this. [S2] When you have a basis of comparison. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Looking at th...
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[S1] That's right. But this thing about being technically in a recession. [S2] It's PR. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Your PR. [S1] To say that implies we are actually not in a recession. [S2] Well, we don't know.
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[S1] ... reasonable minds could differ. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Like, you know, the election. Reasonable minds can differ. Did Donald Trump win or did he lose? [S2] Yeah. [S1] There's always something. On the other hand, Chinese manufacturing, surprise up. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Things continue to be very strong. Uh, the def- uh...
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[S1] So, I mean, you know, as we talk about, you have the political side and then you have the economic. And right now, the economic gravity is just, it's like a, the table is tilted and everything- [S2] To Asia. [S1] ... to Asia. And it's not just China. There are other places. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] ... tackle the issue where it is. They cannot have developing countries who have no money pay for the sins of the past, uh, all the- [S2] Of the colonial powers. [S1] ... powers. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And, and, and yet, this seems to be the other thing. There's always an excuse. And with money being very difficult, righ...
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[S1] which was not used until they would not give it to developing countries. [S2] No. [S1] Even if they allow it to expire, it's- [S2] Well, I think that was more the pharmaceutical companies- [S1] Companies, oh, okay. [S2] ... interested. No, that, that's still happening. Uh, they ordered, uh, 100 million booster sho...
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[S1] I don't think so. [S2] I, I don't know. I mean, it's, this, this has been an issue. Uh, Donald Trump has had his share, and deservedly so, of his, uh, of investigations. [S1] Maybe the two sides will make a deal. [S2] Can't make a deal. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Trump has nothing to offer. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Question is, though, I, I, I sometimes wonder whether he will follow his, his, uh, lawyer's advice or whether he will just get to a certain point- [S2] Rant and rave. [S1] ... start ranting and raving and, uh, you know, what, what that will look like in terms of the optics. Uh, it'll be interesting to see how that...
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[S1] No, no, he's, uh, yeah, it was almost 49%. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So he needs to pick up 1.2% or something. Whereas Bolsonaro has to pick up five or 6%. My guess is that if you like Bolsonaro, you voted for him. You might not like Da Silva, but if you don't like Bolsonaro, you'll probably sit on your hands. So, but the p...
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[S1] That's right. Um, the, the currency has not declined very much. [S2] Food. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Oil. [S1] Because of their exports, right? Iron ore, food, oil, and even wine. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Right? [S2] Well, no, Brazil, not so much wines. Beef. [S1] No, it's Argentina. [S2] Beef. [S1] Argentina and Chilean wine. [S2] ...
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[S1] ... of the, of the, of the airplane, of the, you know, of our, our F-35, because it had Chinese parts in it. [S2] That's right. [S1] You know, those Chinese screws, they might tell- [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Well, there's the $12,500 hammer, which you could go down to the South. That, that, that's the old- No, but what was interesting about that audit is they just couldn't find the money. There's billions of dollars, which is, well, we don't know where it went. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And this, this is the Pentagon. This i...
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[S1] Yeah. No. Well, it's more than that. It's actually, you start adding in, uh, CIA and all the rest. It's $1.6 trillion. As of October 1st of this year, $1.6 trillion has been allocated, uh, to defense in its various forms. And this, this is- [S2] Meanwhile, you have people living in the streets. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] All of which, all of which takes a long time to recoup your capital. [S2] I know, but they won't do it. [S1] Right, they won't do it.
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[S1] That's already happening, uh, in terms of the chip side. There are many, th- many of those who hold green cards or US citizenship of Chinese ancestry who have started companies in China. What are they going to do? Give up their companies? [S2] No. [S1] They're not. So they give up US citizenship. [S2] Well, it's n...
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[S1] Well, there's definitely going to be, um, more programs, um, and they're going to have better algorithms simply because they have- [S2] That's right. [S1] ... the more data and they can, uh, they can adjust those. It'll be, China will be ahead of the curve. Uh, this digitalization, uh, China's pushing on it really...
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