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[S1] So I'd say one thing that we did that we'd never done before is Zoom pub quizzes. So this is a popular pastime for British people. We love going to the pub and we also love quizzes. So a lot of pubs, once a month, will host a quiz. So you have to get a team between, I think, one and six people. [S2] Yeah, normally...
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[S1] Um, so what Will did is he looked through all of his friends' old Facebook photos, took the most embarrassing ones possible- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... blocked out their face and had a round where you had to guess which person was in that photo, and it was excellent. We were in stitches. So actually one thing involved...
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[S1] So Christmas is probably the biggest one. Um, but I'm also thinking of frequent festivals as well. We have a, we have a lot of beer festivals. [S2] Yes. [S1] So often pubs in the summer normally will put on an event called a Beer and Cider and normally sausage festival as well- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... to try and bring...
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[S1] Okay, we have Anastasia or Anastasia from- [S2] Great name. [S1] ... Turkey. Lovely name. We've had a lot of beautiful names today. Um, they want to know if there are any hobbies that we would like to take up in the future. [S2] You go first. [S1] Okay.
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[S1] ... or just use my code Lucy. Don't forget to connect with us on all of our social media. I've got my Instagram. Will's got his Instagram. I've got my Facebook. Don't worry about Will's Facebook, but we've also got my mailing list as well. Oh, and we should mention the personal channel, 'cause that's where you sta...
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[S1] ... dabble. Um, yes, we also have the personal channel where we do vlogs of our daily life on an English farm. So if you enjoyed this lesson and you learnt a lot of vocabulary, all of those vlogs are subtitled, so that might help you a lot as well. We will see you soon for another lesson. Mwah. Will, you've got to...
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[S1] Or maybe financially a little more accessible, or maybe make it on screens, like you alluded to Miss Stevens. And I'm so proud of that movie, I wish more people had seen that movie. And that's a movie that every actor in it, Lily Rabe, Lily Reinhart, myself, in Julia Hart's direction, like, we gave everything. [S2...
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[S1] ... So you're 25 and I'm 21. So who knows? You know, I could be going anywhere. [S2] So you're just this amorphous mass of something. [S1] Yeah, who knows? I mean, I could be, you know, for all I know, I might be in a psychiatric institution six years from now. So, um, I'm like all over the place, Peter. I'm sorry...
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[S1] No, but it, it's, you don't see, you seem like you have found your center so that when you work, that's what it's about. And the rest of it is in a way noise. [S2] Yeah, well, it's also- [S1] It is, it's a little, it has to be a little bit like- [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] First love, heartbreak, everything like that. Luda Guadagnino, who directed it, did a great job. Army Hammer is in it and doing a great job. And my guest today, Timothy Shauman. [S2] Thank you for having me, Peter. And I can't believe... [S1] Um...
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[S1] ... to meet him? [S2] I'm never gonna, I'm never gonna escape that. [S1] Well, that's everywhere now. [S2] I know. You know what? It's kind of like a relief in some way because I felt like maybe I, there was a certain pressure that I had to like develop a British accent and become like a thespian or something, tal...
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[S1] Uh, Timmy. [S2] Timmy? [S1] Yeah. That's always been like a nice barometer to see. Like, if somebody shouts "Timmy" across the room, it's like, "Ah, family members, someone from- [S2] [LAUGHS] It's it. [S1] ... someone from the get-go. And Timothy's more like- [S2] Yeah, you know, whatever works, really. I'm not p...
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[S1] ... action takeover. And if I keep talking, I'll ruin the movie, so I'll go see the movie. [S2] But what about in terms of your family? What did they say to you? Because I'm more interested in their reviews than anybody. [S1] Um, well, for my dad, it was a, it was an especially surreal experience because I spent m...
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[S1] Well, you are, but any movie that, because to me, this is a sensual movie, not necessarily a sexual movie. Everything seems to be eroticized, even, you know, you just walk around and that's it. [S2] And that's Luca. [S1] It's the summer, it's Luca. That's who he is, you know? He's everybody.
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[S1] What always gets me about this breakthrough for you. [S2] Right. [S1] As somebody who has seen you on stage in "Pronicle Son," and you, to look at that. [S2] Wow, I didn't know that. That's awesome that you saw that. [S1] But to, to look at John, that John Patrick, when you're playing him. [S2] Right. [S1] You kno...
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[S1] And then you do a movie like Miss Stevens, which comes in, people haven't seen it. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But if they should, and then you do your Biff's monologue from Death of a Salesman- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... and wipe everybody out doing it. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So people know you, they saw you on Homeland, right? [S2]...
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[S1] ... the ability to get that project or be offered that role, I don't think would have happened without the filmmakers and the producers seeing this film. But I don't know, I, I try to take it like a day at a time and the idea that it's a marathon and not a sprint. And I know for any actor, their prescription is to...
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[S1] Or maybe financially a little more accessible, or maybe make it on screens, like you alluded to Miss Stevens. And I'm so proud of that movie, I wish more people had seen that movie. And that's a movie that every actor in it, Lily Rabe, Lily Reinhart, myself, in Julia Hart's direction, like, we gave everything. [S2...
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[S1] No, but it, it's, you don't see, you seem like you have found your center so that when you work, that's what it's about. And the rest of it is in a way noise. [S2] Yeah, well, it's also- [S1] It is, it's a little, it has to be a little bit like- [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] kind of your age. [S2] Yes. [S1] So it's, you know, and yet has this tremendous ability to, um, make the noise go away and focus on what's happening.
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[S1] ... somebody with a sense of superiority. And that was tough as hell with Saoirse, because I don't feel any of that with her. It's certainly our relationship in real life did not play out at all like that. And so that she came over one day, she said, "Oh, you know, we're all gonna get drinks after work today if yo...
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[S1] the point of the movie, that's the point of the books as well. They're based on two books, is that addiction does not have a recognizable face. This affects everyone. There shouldn't be a moral taboo around it. There shouldn't be a shame. That's how we get past it. That's how we deal with it. [S2] Talk about it. T...
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[S1] Okay, I'm gonna rattle off some. [S2] Okay. [S1] But last year, I feel like I was cutting off Daniel Kaluuya, so tell me if I'm like cutting you off or anything. [S2] No, this is fantastic. Go ahead. [S1] Okay, all right. Okay, Ben Superbad, which at the time for me, and I, I'm speaking for guys and girls my age e...
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[S1] ... was like his first gig. [S2] Yeah, 'cause he was 23, maybe, 22 or 23. Um, and I was 17 and, no, it was, it, I was out of my mind with excitement. I was so, so, so happy to do that. I also worked for like eight days on that movie, but it felt like eight months. [S1] Oh, really? Yeah, it feels like, uh ... [S2] ...
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