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[S1] After the storm passed, I went outside and I picked flowers. [S2] That's lovely. [S1] Isn't that nice? [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] So in this case, exactly two and exactly one. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Rosie, can you tell me about your friend Alberto in a compound-complex sentence, please? [S2] Sure. My friend Alberto, well, you'll see. Though he has a crippling walnut allergy, Alberto bravely walked through the walnut grove, but he made sure to wear long sleeves. [S1] That's a good call. [S2] Yeah, he's smart. [S1] Yeah, smart kid.
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[S1] and geese. Now, the, the reason that we have these seven weird mutant plurals in English is kind of complicated, but I'm lucky enough to be able to work with an actual linguist. Hello, Jake. [S2] Hey, grammarians. [S1] Jake, is it true that you are a linguist? [S2] Yep, it's true.
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[S1] ... that you have two, two vowels in a word. The first vowel will, will try to sound more like the second vowel if that second vowel is the "ee" sound, just like in the plural formation of nouns. [S2] So you're saying that the, the suffix "ee" at the end of this, this proposed word "fut-ee"... [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] ... the "oo" sound tried to sound more like the "ee" sound. [S1] Right. [S2] This is just a pattern that we found in Germanic languages.
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[S1] Exactly. It's very prevalent in Germanic languages, also exists in some romance languages, some tiny romance languages. [S2] So, so what happens when you combine the "oo" sound with the "ee" sound? What sound do you get? [S1] Well, strangely, you get the "ee" sound. [S2] Are you- [S1] A sound which- [S2] What is, what is that? [S1] The "ee" sound. [S2] Are you okay? [S1] I think I'm okay. You know, we linguists have to deal with this kind of thing all the time. [S2] Sorry. [S1] We have very strong stomachs. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You still get this sound in, in languages like German and Dutch.
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[S1] ... foot-y. [S2] Something like foot-y, right. [S1] Okay. [S2] Now, eventually, that "y" sound dropped out of English, which is why it's so hard for us to pronounce. And it was replaced in pretty much all cases with the "e" sound. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] So we get the word "feety," and then the "e" drops off, and we're left with "foot" as the singular and "feet" as the plural. [S1] Cool. So it goes from foot-
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[S1] Now the same exact thing happened with the word mouse, which probably used to be moose, because in Frisian, which is the closest cousin to English, the word for mouse still is moose. [S2] Moose? [S1] And you find similar things in a lot of Germanic languages, like "mouse" in Dutch and "maus" in German.
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[S1] Cool. Well, I hope that cleared some things up for you. You can learn anything. David out. [S2] Jake out. [S1] That was a high five, not a slap.
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[S1] Elon, hey, welcome back to TED. It's great to have you here. [S2] Thanks for having me. [S1] So in the next half hour or so, um, we're going to spend some time exploring your vision for what an exciting future might look like, which I guess makes the first question a little ironic.
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[S1] Um, and then the car gets on a skate. There's no speed limit here, so, uh, we're designing this to be, uh, able to operate at 200 kilometers an hour or about 130- [S2] What? [S1] 200 kilometers an hour or about 130 miles per hour. Uh, so you should be able to get from, say, uh, Westwood to Alley-X in six minutes, five, six minutes. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] [LAUGHS]
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the affordability of going in a car will be better than that of a bus. Like, it'll cost less than a bus ticket. So, um, the amount of driving that'll occur will be much greater with shared autonomy, and actually, traffic will get far worse. [S1] I mean, you started Tesla with the goal of persuading the world to, that electrification was the future of cars. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And, uh, a few years ago, people were laughing at you. Now, not so much. I mean- [S2] Okay.
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[S1] ... really be very good, certainly once you enter a highway, to go anywhere on the highway system in a given country. So it's not sort of limited to LA, New York. We could change it and make it Seattle, Florida. [S2] Hmm. [S1] That day, or in real time. So you were going from LA to New York, now go from LA to Toronto.
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[S1] Okay. [S2] I guess a big concern of yours is that people may actually get seduced too early to think that this is safe. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And then you'll have some horrible incident happen that puts things back. [S1] Well, I think that the autonomy system is likely to at least mitigate the crash, except in rare circumstances. The thing to appreciate about vehicle safety is this is probabilistic. So there's
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So, you mentioned the semi, and I think you're planning to announce this in September, but I'm curious whether there's anything you could show us today. [S1] I will show you a teaser shot of the, uh ... [S2] Teaser shot. [S1] ... of the truck. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] It's live. [S2] [LAUGHS] Okay. [S1] No, no, that's definitely a case where we want to be cautious about the autonomy features. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] Actually, go. [S2] Well, um, when it's running at full speed, um, you can't actually see the cells without a strobe light. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] They just glow. [S1] [LAUGHS] And-
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[S1] Rapid and complete. [S2] Right. [S1] Uh, so, like an aircraft or a car, uh, the reusability is rapid and complete. Uh, you do not send your aircraft into, to, to Boeing in between flights. [S2] Right. So,
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[S1] It would have been bad. [S2] It's like, but yeah, the album for the first year and a half, well, actually, uh, almost two right now, the phone, the album existed on my phone, which is covered in cat stickers, and the volume buttons don't really work that well 'cause there's candy stuck in there. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] So it's all, it's a very sophisticated system we have going. [S1] I mentioned a story, uh, I told the story to the audience before you came out about when you were very young, where, I think you were 15 or 16 years old. [S2] Yeah, yeah. Ooh, I was 14. [S1] You showed up here.
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[S1] Cool. [S2] Well, I'm glad that you're, uh, it, it really feels like, and, and someone said this, we have had you on the show for three years now, right? We, I feel like we've just watched you grow up, and I'm, I'm just watching you just get to be a bigger and bigger and bigger star, and, and, I mean, we knew you were talented when you were first on, but you just keep growing as an artist, and, and you're still just a, a very regular, normal person, which I really appreciate, 'cause that's hard to hold on to that and be grounded, and you really are, so. [S1] Thank you so much. [S2] I'm happy that you're that person.
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[S1] ... so special happened at dinner. You guys were wonderful. You booked this incredibly fancy, beautiful, wonderful dinner for my best friend, Abigail, and I at Mr. Chow. [S2] Right. [S1] I'd never been there before. [S2] It's a fancy celebrity place. [S1] It's fancy. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, and so we went out and we sit down and my best friend looks over and absolutely her face, like, went white. And she was like, "Stevie Wonder is sitting right behind you."
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[S1] Our future generations who will get to vote because of the people who have fought for this country. And most of all, this is for all the people here tonight whose main goal in life is to make this world and this country far better than it has ever been. Wow. [S2] And you did remember it. [S1] I remember. [S2] That's beautiful.
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[S1] It seems like, uh, everyone wants to get into politics now. In fact, during a recent interview, the rapper 2 Chainz, who recently debated Nancy Grace on legalizing weed, he revealed that he's thinking about running for mayor of his hometown College Park, Georgia. And he's not wasting any time. No. In fact, his jury released a series of potential campaign slogans, and they're pretty effective. Yeah, take a look. First, we have, "Change you can believe in." [S2] Wow. [S1] That's pretty good. I like that. [S2] Good one. Good one. [S1] This next one's catchy, too. "Yes, weed can." [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] And this guy is just unbelievable, man. He's just one of my favorite guys ever. I just followed his career through producing Amy Winehouse, and then he, uh, he, he produced, uh, he produced my comedy album, Bathroom Wall. That's what he's famous for. And, uh- [S2] That's what I know. [S1] Anyways, he, he comes out with this new album, and it's unbelievable. Uptown Funk is the number one song in the world. Everything, the universe,
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[S1] I'm so happy you're here. This is actually your third generation, uh, to be on the Tonight Show because- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... your mom, Melanie Griffith, has been on the Tonight Show, and then, uh, Tippi Hedren was your grandma. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And she was on the Tonight Show as well. She was actually in this studio back- [S2] I know, I didn't know that. I just found that out. [S1] Yeah. [S2] That's crazy. [S1] You're third generation. This is exciting. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah. So we have something for you. This is a, you get a trophy. [S2] Oh my God, I get a trophy for that. [S1] Yeah, you get a trophy.
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[S1] I don't know. I think it'd be your problem too. [S2] You have boys, yeah? [S1] Yeah, boys, yeah. Yeah, boys. [S2] It's different. [S1] Yeah. [S2] You know what though? My, my sister-in-law had a little boy two weeks prior to us having our little girl, and it is completely different. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Everything. [S1] Boys, uh, so you're saying to me men and women are different? [S2] What? [S1] Yeah. [S2] No. [S1] From the get- [S2] Are you having me onto something? [S1] Yeah. No, from, from the very beginning, though. [S2] Yeah, I do think it. [S1] Like, from the very beginning, my, like, my son is, like, drives cars around. Not real cars, obviously, but, yeah, his little car. And I'll let him drive my car.
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[S1] ... when you started. [S2] I started se- well, I started acting when I was nine. But that didn't prevent my, my parents from making me do, do, like, things. Like, my mom would pick me up from, from 70's show. She was working Rite Aid, which is like a drugstore in LA. And, uh, she was- [S1] Yeah, I think they know what Rite Aid is. [S2] Well, not them, but there's some- Listen. [S1] I have never been to your country before. What is this magical place full of things to put in your ears and your ass? Why, this Rite Aid, this American, I don't know where I'm going with this accent.
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[S1] So, yeah. [S2] And it's called man spreading. And here's what the deal is. You're either a really creepy guy. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Or you're hogging two seats. [S1] Right. [S2] All right. Now, I don't think I'm a particularly creepy guy. Uh, although if you see that photograph, it'll scare you to death. Uh- [S1] Well, we've got a, we've got a photo, and this is the photo- [S2] Oh, I didn't see that. [S1] ... that caused the-
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[S1] Are you asking for your phone? You're not allowed to do that. Um, but anyway, he ended up leaving my husband an incredibly funny and ball-busting email. [S2] Good. [S1] A voicemail. Um, but, but, but then I didn't get to take the picture with him shaking his hand and talking about the change we're gonna make in the world, 'cause I was just, like, dying. [S2] Right. [S1] And, um, but my picture instead is while he's leaving my husband the voicemail and he, and he hands the phone back. And I'm, I'm, I'm looking at the voicemail, but instead the photo, I'm just looking at my phone like this. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And he's, he's, like, saying something to me, which is, like, I can't wait to share it with my kids. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Obama's, like,
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[S1] And, I mean, it was from behind, but, and I was covering myself from the front, and he walks in, and it was a little too late, and he just sees me and turns beet red and, like, folds over laughing. He's like, "Aah!" Like, just cannot contain himself. And I, like, I didn't know if I was, like, embarrassed or, like, flattered or, like, I- I didn't know how to take it. [S2] [LAUGHS] Yeah. [S1] And then he- he goes running out again, and he's like, "What?" He's dead.
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[S1] We're going to go over the behind the scenes of one of Michael's latest films, uh, Clear Sky. [S2] Our latest films. [S1] Our latest films. I like that. Yeah, it's camaraderie. Um, but we want to give you guys just some more behind the scenes, talk a bit about our process. Uh, what we really want to give you guys is the details, the playbook of why we're doing certain things. Even where I'm holding the camera, kind of give you an insight into our brain of how we approach a film day. 'Cause it is important. How you film your projects important.
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[S1] be, uh, you know, a fly on the wall. So that's what we wanna do here is, you know, virtually put you on the, on set with us. So, yeah. This is totally a weird intro into a shoot, but this would usually come at the end, but this looks like clutter. Mark and I have, you know, quickly changed our own workflow. Basically, uh, we use Matrix now. [S2] Yeah. [S1] We, we talk about, you've probably heard Mark talk about all the time. I was a bit, like, on the fence when I first heard about it, and now I'm, I'm a huge advocate. Um, we put everything-
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[S1] ... everything up there. It, it, you know, costs a little penny, but there, it is so reassuring knowing, I put everything up there before even putting it on the drive. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So our, our workflow now is like Lewis came home with some footage yesterday. It goes directly onto Matrix and then whoever's editing it pulls it down, um, onto their local drive, so. [S2] And it's like we don't ever have to worry about running out of space. [S1] No. [S2] Or buying more, more, uh, raids or anything. [S1] No.
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[S1] ... or anything. [S2] No, and, no, and if you're in- [S1] It's like, I haven't bought a hard drive. [S2] Well, we have, we have, let me say this. We just edited, we just finished editing a massive feature documentary, Lewis's first, uh, feature edit. Congrats, Lewis. [S1] And can you announce today? [S2] When, no, not yet. [S1] When? Well- [S2] Anyway, it's gotten into a big film festival. [S1] There you go. You can say that. [S2] You'll hear about it soon.
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[S1] There you go. You can say that. [S2] ... soon. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Um, and, and we were so happy, especially for Lewis, 'cause he really took the helm on the edit on that, so good job. Um, but he had an unfortunate hard drive crash, which I've only had happen, like, once or twice in my- [S1] Once, yeah, once. [S2] Right. I think I've only had one t- now that I can recall, that was a total crash. [S1] Wow. That's the most frightening thing ever, is if- [S2] Yeah, six, six terabyte project- [S1] Oh. [S2] ... right at the end when we're submitting. [S1] And in a documentary that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. [S2] Yeah, hundreds of thousands of dollar budget. [S1] Yeah, yeah. [S2] And it-
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[S1] ... way of shooting. [S2] And so in this footage you're seeing right now of, uh, Clear Sky running, Michael's actually on a bike. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And this is, this is really the beauty of these new cameras we're using, like the FX9. I wish we had the FX6 for this stuff. [S2] Oh, I know. Yeah, 'cause that was heavy. [S1] Yeah, I'm thinking about it now. Like, or the FX3 would even- [S2] Oh, it would've been better. Yeah. [S1] ... would be insane. 'Cause I'm using the FX9. [S2] Yeah, you could see, you could use the, the Schep's mic. [S1] Totally. [S2] Oh, my gosh. You could use the Schep's mic on the FX3. [S1] Oh, I know.
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[S1] So the, the thing, what we're trying to get back to is the, the, really the auto-focus is, is the real challenge. I mean, when you're, you have to have one hand on the bike and then one hand on the camera. Back, you know, even just a year ago when I was doing this, I was using, we were using the FS7, which didn't have auto-focus on our Canon lenses. [S2] No, so you were two hand in it. [S1] Yeah, you had to two- [S2] And the auto-focus was garbage on the FX- [S1] So that's, that's-
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[S1] So that's, that's just a huge, you know, it's just using the tools that you have to your advantage. So now it's like, yeah, with the auto focus, you can get right to the character. You see some footage here, um, is the FX9 on the bike. [S2] Yep. [S1] And now this footage here is the A7 III on a gimbal. [S2] Yep. Which we-
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[S1] I wish we had the FX3 or the A7S3 for that. [S2] Totally. [S1] But, you know, I still worked out the, our, our, our, this, the Sony Cinema LUTs we use, work across all the cameras. It's just matter, it's just the bit depth. Um, if you've seen our, the YouTube video about this, um, we, this is us, me and Mikey, we just, we listen to the- [S2] Hand handles, right? [S1] You listen to the music ahead of time. Where is it here? Let me scroll back. Yeah.
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[S1] Even, like, during production. [S2] Yeah. [S1] As early as possible, personally. I mean, I, on the last film, Ray, like, I had sketches from the composer and I was listening to those, uh, while filming and, definitely before and after, but, and editing, but often even during. Um, so I'm, I'm big on that. This, this film, I haven't done that yet, but, so we're using, just getting, just getting in the zone. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know? [S2] It's true.
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[S1] Um- [S2] I think find that tone or mood that you guys like. Um, you know, sometimes it's Led Zeppelin. Like sometimes for me, it's like when I was doing Transformer, I remember I listened to a lot of like American rock, like the kind, or British rock or American rock, um, a lot of stuff that the character listened to to try and get into that like lifting space. So it's like- [S1] Yeah. [S2] ... set yourself up for, you know, what you're gonna be, how you're gonna edit it.
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[S1] Here, here, this is us, uh, getting the drone out. I, you know, drones for a long time, I felt were overused, but they are just the, the cleanest way to establish a new environment and the easiest way to get between two different scenes. [S2] This is me learning what a drone is. [S1] Yeah, yeah. [S2] Yeah. [S1] I like that, Mike, you, you, you, you- [S2] This is great. [S1] You under- but there's things you teach me about cameras. You just taught me about the auto-focus on this. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] Well, just some, just some production context. We're on the way to the race year, and we left, we, we made sure we gave ourselves a little bit of, uh, uh, time just so we could stop and get some establishing shots. [S2] And they're so, and they were gorgeous in the fall. [S1] Yeah, and we'll use them on-
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[S1] ... where we are, but you're thinking- [S2] We got a couple, we, yeah, it's, it, yeah, we got a couple shots, like, yes, you can get your one establishing, but then you also have to be thinking long-term, being like, we might be making this film over the course of a year, so, you know, oh, there it is. Beautiful. [S1] Oh, yeah, it's stunning. [S2] Oh, my gosh. You could use this anywhere. Like this, you know, that car could represent Shawn going to a race. [S1] Yeah. [S2] You know, that could definitely be opening for that scene, but then there's other, that is gorgeous. Holy cow. That's that Mavic, that little thing. [S1] Thank you. The little Mavic
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[S1] See, so this to me, you know, is a different look. Like, I know it's, it's the same flight, but this to me is- [S2] This could be used in another part of the movie. [S1] I, I, you could definitely use this at another part. So it's like, you know, just- [S2] We want to get him on those trails there. [S1] Oh, yeah, that was cool. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So, you know, that's, that's just always something in your, when your guys are, are going to shoot, you know, just trying to give yourself that extra 30 minutes or something before or after- [S2] Totally. [S1] ... just to-
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[S1] It, it, it literally impacts- [S2] It'll save you. [S1] It'll impacts, if you just spend half an hour the day before building up your camera, turning it on, hitting record, you, you will save yourself like this if I practiced with the Mavic the day before. [S2] The other thing, yes. [S1] And then, and then looking at it on your computer. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Everything looks good on a small screen. [S2] So, and then I'll give you a tip. This is something I did on that film Ray that's yet to be released. Um, I, I, I,
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[S1] ... didn't shoot any B-roll while I was actually with him. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But because I filmed only 10 minutes from my house, I would go out on just dedicated B-roll shoots. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Which was really cool, actually. It's like, it's, it was a different way of thinking. Like I'd go film the lake, I'd go film this cars, you know, I'd go film just some, just some different textures. So you could do it that way too, depending on the proximity of, you know, where your story is from yourself. But this was several hours from us, so, you know, we just were like, "Yeah,
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[S1] Sri Lanka up until the day we got on the flight. Like the, all the stuff you'll see here from the train sequence in, uh, in No Country is an Island, poster up there, um, that, that whole sequence, which ended up being really integral to- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... to- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... to Ahmaud's, uh, meditation about Sri Lanka at the beginning. We shot that, we, we like- [S2] It was a B-roll day. [S1] It was a B-roll day, but we actually, like, went right from there- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... I'm pretty sure, to our flight. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Like, like, we, we- [S2] We were- [S1] We just wrung out every ounce of-
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[S1] It was going to be hard to make another trip back to Sri Lanka, so- [S2] [LAUGHS] Yeah, yeah. [S1] No, I remember that. We had like a full day. We, we were so focused, and this is something to keep in mind, like, this is just kind of the versatility you have to have in your own filmmaking, is depending on the access with your character, you might only get them for X amount of time. Like in the Sri Lanka documentary, we were only there for so many days, and that was the priority. [S2] Yeah. [S1] It was a luxury. We would have had to make the film work with what we had. Thankfully, we found an extra day or half
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[S1] a day, whatever it was, and then, as Mark said, that's where we went out and you could really add some more special elements. So, I think the point here is, if you only have one option, you have to shoot your A-roll. You have to, you have to get your character story development. If you're smart and plan your production days and give yourself some time or other days, then you can create kind of more cinematic, you know, pick-up days. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, so. [S2] That's even,
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[S1] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, well, j- just a quick piece of production kind of planning advice for you guys. Like, just so you know, we're here at the race course. Uh, let's just roll it for a minute. [S2] Yeah. [S1] We're here probably, I- I think we were there about 30, 40 minutes before our character, and that was all planned. Like, we knew when he was gonna get there, and so we knew we had to get there
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[S1] ... year in the edit. [S2] Oh, and you regret it. [S1] Yeah. [S2] You're, you're, you're angry, like it's not usable, it's not timeless, like you, you know, so, you know, it's a lot to get right, but that's why I'm so thankful when I have someone like Mark who can worry much more about- [S1] But that's why we work in teams like this. [S2] Right. [S1] You know? Like I brought you out on, uh, Battleground with Julian to focus on that so I could talk to him, you know? [S2] Yeah, totally. [S1] And see, there's a little key thing. We'll rewind that. That right there on my back. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] You, you have one of those now. [S2] Yeah. [S1] I highly recommend- [S2] I-
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[S1] I always had it. I, I thought I lost it. I was so happy. [S2] No, yeah, we found it. I just, I wore it. Um- [S1] This is a secret documentary. [S2] Yeah, exactly. A little fanny pack. You just put a bunch of batteries. I always throw an extra lens in there and a bunch of wipes 'cause you never know- [S1] Cards. [S2] Yeah, you never know what's gonna, exactly, cards.
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[S1] ... if you want. [S2] And then two, two things about this image. I mean, besides that my monitor's totally been, had the crap kicked out of it. Um, well, what's going on here? There we go. Oh, no, bring it, let me fast forward here. Let me just pause right there. Uh, two things. One, that's called an ultralight arm. You can find, everyone always asks me what arm I use. I'm like, I just had two more emails about it this morning. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Then this, the small HD. You, you get, get the biggest monitor you can on set because, like we were saying,
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[S1] ... didn't hit stop, record, you know? There you go. And this happens. How many, have you ever done that, where you've hit recording, you think you're starting it, and you're actually ending it? [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah. [S2] I've done that a few times. [S1] Yeah. [S2] It's not, not great. [S1] Oh, that was a long one. There we go. [S2] Getting the bike ready. I think when you just saw me texting there, I, I'm almost positive I was texting with Shawn, just asking how far out they were, so. [S1] Wasn't there a flat on this too? [S2] It, it was a, it was a tough bike. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] It was, uh, it's a cross-country course, so you're like,
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[S1] Here, this is, um- [S2] Scouting? [S1] This is scouting, and, uh, you always bring a camera to your scout, 'cause what I did, well, while Michael was waiting for Shawn, uh, I went off into the forest here- [S2] Got some B-roll. [S1] Got cut to the B-roll. I can actually, I think I have some of that B-roll right here. I think I just, yeah, there you go. Just some establishing shots. I, I, I love Terrence Malick films, so I'm always- [S2] I always, I always consider it, like, textured. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Like, you know, it's-
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[S1] It's like, it's just breathing room between, especially if it's an intense film or something, just breathing moments for the audience to digest what happened or what's about to happen. [S2] Exactly. [S1] Prepare for what's about to happen. [S2] Yeah. This, this took me five minutes to shoot, so, and I'm sure it'll make it into the edit. It's beautiful tones in the forest that day. Um, so that's what you were seeing me do here, walking into the forest. Where is it? [S1] There you go. [S2] Uh, yeah, you're right.
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] Well, would you want it, how would you have done it differently? [S1] Personally, like, I, I, I don't know. On that type of fi- I just felt it was too Nat Geo, highly produced. Like I just, it, it maybe, you know, this is where I- [S2] 'Cause it was produced by Nat Geo. [S1] Yeah, I know, that's, yeah. [S2] Yeah. [S1] I felt, felt like kind of photographers tr- but I, I don't know, it lost some of its rawness, I felt, like bringing in some too- I don't know, I just- [S2] Bringing in-
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[S1] I actually didn't like the girlfriend. I thought that was like a forced element. [S2] Interesting. [S1] Like, I thought, like, I didn't think she was even significant at all. Like, I, I would have preferred just to be in the guy's head the whole time. And then the whole, they, they brought in the whole story line of, like, the production of- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... of it being, you know,
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[S1] ... You know, ethically weird, but I just wanted a badass. I, I guess I just wanted something more handheld. And it felt like very, yeah, I don't know. [S2] But I, I didn't want to be a, a, an armchair psychologist, but I think Alex is, um, his own social levels of skills or his own emotional intelligence. I don't know if you could have made a whole film with that. You needed the girlfriend who could emote and talk about that. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] Yeah, the climb, anyway. [S2] Yeah. [S1] The climb was incredible. [S2] The climb, well, he was nuts. Um, let's get into some racing here. I'm talking about shoot, I'm, I'm probably saying the exact same stuff. Oh, this is funny. This is the top of the, this is the classic student film shot. I still do this, shooting the tops of trees, just different perspectives. Um,
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[S1] It really is listening, like just hearing where he's at, what the emotion, what he's feeling, and just trying to capture really those kind of processing moments. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, I think that's- [S2] So how often do you involve your voice? [S1] When there's enough silence. But, but I always give it an awkward amount of, like, after he's done talking, like he gives his thought, make sure you guys are just
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[S1] Give yourself five, 10, 15 seconds before you even go to the next question because often what happens, the magic- [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah, the real magic comes when someone says something like, "Yeah, you know, I'm, I'm nervous about this shoot today," or, "I'm nervous about this race today." It's been a long time since, you know, I was, I was last on a start line and, uh- [S2] You would have interrupted them right at- [S1] Right. [S2] ... Most people would write, "It's been a long time since I've seen you." You're like, "Ah," and then you jump in. [S1] Yeah. When was this?
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[S1] Yeah, when was the last race you did? [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, you tried it, you tried it, but, but don't. Let, th- let them work through it and let, you know, let them kind of, kind of self, self, uh, again, self-direct themselves. I think the job of the director in the documentary is more just to s- sort of shift and provide cues because you have a general idea on, you know, where you're going in the film, but ultimately, again, it, it's, it's trying to get those real processing moments out of him. So if you just even watch, like, our body language here,
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