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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_m4-dialogue_0724230 | [S1] Well, about richest people, I was, uh, I told my, I was really not happy in the past few months when people say Jack Ma is the richest people of China. [S2] Global celebrity, they said. [S1] And, and, and, no, I'm not, I'm not, because when I start a business- [S2] No, you are. You are. | 19.4 | 3.129178 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_m4-dialogue_0724230.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_m4-dialogue_0724231 | [S1] I never felt rich person in China, rich person in Hangzhou. Oh, you want to be your husband, to be respected person. She said, "Of course respected." Because she never believe, and I don't believe we'll be rich people. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] We just want to survive. But I believe we have $1 million. That's your money. We have $20 million. | 22.48 | 3.065699 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_m4-dialogue_0724231.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_m4-dialogue_0724232 | [S1] Someday, I will go back to teach, go back to school, spend time with the young people and telling, sharing with them what I've done. So the money is not mine. I just are happily and, um, having this resources and I want, uh, a do better job. [S2] Just tell them your story. [S1] Yeah, tell them the story and tell them that if Jack, I, I don't think in this world there are a lot of people be rejected more than 30 times. | 28.72 | 3.237883 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_BV1Rg411F7fs_p64_m4-dialogue_0724232.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_m4-dialogue_0166076 | [S1] Jennifer, thank you so much for joining us here today. [S2] Thank you. [S1] Your new movie, Second Act, takes on some pretty meaty workplace topics. [S2] [LAUGHS] Yeah. [S1] The idea of your career being, feeling stuck or barriers, either real or internal, that are stopping people from getting to where they wanna get. You have a million projects going on. There's so many different things you can do. Why, is this a story that you wanted to tell? | 23.72 | 3.216049 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_m4-dialogue_0166076.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_m4-dialogue_0166077 | [S1] and you can break through any barrier. But sometimes that, that's a long road. That's a hard journey. [S2] Have you had that experience? [S1] I | 7.96 | 3.421639 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_m4-dialogue_0166077.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_m4-dialogue_0166082 | [S1] and all that, you know, kind of everybody's adding is the money and kind of money you can get anywhere in a sense, right? That's, that's in, in private equity world and in the business world it's like, "Oh, it's just money," right? And you're like, "Really? It's just money? So I'm actually the thing that's- [S2] Right. [S1] ... you need- [S2] You're the product, yeah. | 16.76 | 2.905268 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_m4-dialogue_0166082.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_m4-dialogue_0166086 | [S1] I think my favorite thing that people have said is that they leave the theater inspired. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] They leave the theater inspired. Uh, and, and that's my favorite thing about being an artist in general, is that you can inspire people to dream their own biggest dreams. [S2] That's great. Well, Jennifer, thank you very much for joining us. [S1] Thank you. [S2] This is terrific. [S1] Thank you so much. | 18.44 | 3.10406 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_BV1Rg411F7fs_p68_m4-dialogue_0166086.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002792 | [S1] We spent a lot of this week talking about the Oscars controversy. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You talk about, um, helping out young comedians. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Guiding the way for them. What lessons should they take out of what you've just been through? [S2] If you take a lesson from what I've been through, just pay attention. | 16.32 | 3.039644 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002792.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002797 | [S1] ... then by all means do it. I'm not here to change you. [S2] Right. [S1] Do it. Not here to change it all, but just be smart in your approach to it. And I would say that I think that's the, the dopest thing about my change is that I've, I've done that. And that's why I decided just to be done with the situation because the change came in the last ten years that I could prove of somebody that got it, understood it, and adjusted and adapted to the times of today. | 29.92 | 3.265168 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002797.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002798 | [S1] You must get people that come to you all the time, they're like, "Hey, I'm working in a fast food job," or, "I'm working this job, which I hate. I really want to be a comedian," or, "I want to be an actor." What kind of advice do you tell them? [S2] [LAUGHS] Um, I mean, that's tough, man. That's tough. [S1] You say, "Don't do it." | 18.08 | 3.231303 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002798.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002799 | [S1] No, you definitely don't say that. I'm not a, I'm not a dream killer. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] I just don't like talkers. So many people love to say what they're going to do. So many people love to voice it just so they can hear themselves say it. [S2] Right. [S1] Yeah, man, you know what I'm thinking about doing today? I'm probably gonna go and, uh, hey, you know what, man? I'm, uh, I just started. I'm probably, tomorrow, get up in the morning, go down and, and do some, | 23.72 | 3.182448 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002799.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002801 | [S1] ... taking information and going and using it, don't ask for it. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So my advice is to not be a talker, be a doer. Be a person that wants to put punctuations on sentences and not just keep running them on. Run on sentences are the worst. They just don't stop. You're like, "Where's your period?" [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] You didn't, you didn't put a period on one sentence. Finish something. You gotta finish something. [S2] All right. Well, Kevin, thank you very much. [S1] Thank you so much, dude. [S2] That was terrific. | 25.56 | 3.328467 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_BV1Rg411F7fs_p77_m4-dialogue_1002801.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857797 | [S1] Um, yeah, man, I guess you could say that. You know, a lot of things I learned by being, just being around the game. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Right? So by the age of six, I was already strategizing versus other six-year-olds, you know? The age of six, I figured out six-year-olds couldn't dribble with their left hand. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And so I said, okay. [S2] A lot of, a lot of 12-year-olds can't dribble with their left hand. [S1] Well, yeah, | 19 | 3.119079 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857797.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857798 | [S1] Well, yeah, well, imagine six. So like, when I was playing, these six-year-old kids, I would make them dribble with their left, 'cause I knew they couldn't. And so, they'd dribble off their foot, I'd pick it up, lay it up. Do it again. Dribble off foot, pick it up, lay it up. So at six years old, I had 63 points. And, and, uh, I remember mine. [S2] So your six-year-old self could beat your 38-year-old self, 'cause you only scored 60 in the last game. [S1] Yeah. | 24.44 | 3.098103 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857798.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857799 | [S1] Yeah. But, um, but yeah, I mean, listen, I, I just constantly looked for things to learn from. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And, uh, you know, very observed. | 8.68 | 2.893444 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857799.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857803 | [S1] I gradually would not. [S2] I was two. I was born and I, I was born to play basketball, you know what I mean? And I played a lot of different sports, um, but nothing brought me the sense of, of, of peace and of, uh, escape, you know, that the game of basketball do. [S1] Is it an escape when you get on the court? Is that your zen time? Your, your, your solitude time? [S2] Yeah. [S1] Even though it's a teamwork game? [S2] Yeah. When I need that escape, it's there for me, right? When I need a friend, it's there for me. And when I need to vent, and don't dunk and- [S1] The mamba comes out. [S2] It's there. | 29.88 | 3.017744 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857803.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857810 | Uh, next up is, uh, the next pillar, be obsessive. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Obsessive. That's, I think, uh, I think a lot of people equate that with you. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] You know, Kobe is obsessive in a lot of things. Uh, we've been doing this for, what, eight years now, Asia Tour. You know, I've been with you for a long way. I, I, the one moment that stands out out of, we've done, I don't know how many done, we've done, what, 800 events. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] The one time was 4 a.m. We went out to practice at 4 a.m. | 28.76 | 3.065925 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857810.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857811 | [S1] And that was your idea to do it. [S2] But, I mean- [S1] And then, you know, all these Nike people are like, "No, no, no, no, no. Let's not, let's not do that." And then you're like, "Let's do it at 4 a.m." So you got security, you got brand marketing, sports marketing going, "No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's not do it." You're like, "Let's do it," because that's your sustenance, right? [S2] I mean, to me, it just makes complete sense. [S1] Not to us. I'm sleeping at 4 a.m. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You're, you're working out. [S2] Well- [S1] So, talk about that. | 21.92 | 3.151493 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857811.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857812 | [S1] Okay. So if, if, if your job is to try to be the best basketball player you can be. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Right? To do that, you have to practice, you have to train, right? You want to train as much as you can, as often as you can. So if you get up at 10 in the morning, train at 11, right? 12, say 12, train at 12, train for two hours, 12 to two. Um, you have to let your body recover, so you eat, you recover, whatever. You get back out, you train, start training again at six. Train from six to eight, | 28.76 | 3.078625 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857812.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857813 | [S1] Right? And so now you do that and as the years go on, the separation that you have with your competitors and your peers just grows larger and larger and larger and larger and larger. And by year five or six, it doesn't matter how, what kind of work they do in the summer, they're never gonna catch up 'cause they're five years behind. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Right? So it makes sense to get up and start your day early because you can get more work in. [S2] Is that genetic or is that something you, you ingrained and trained yourself? [S1] No, it was just- [S2] Who taught you that? | 28.76 | 3.246455 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857813.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857815 | [S1] Man, like in high school. [S2] Wow. [S1] High school, we start, my first class in high school was seven, at 745. I used to get to the gym around 5 a.m. and I'd play before school. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And then school would start. [S2] Who's playing with you at 5 a.m.? [S1] My coach. So my coach would show up and we'd do all these basketball drills. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Right? [S2] So just you and your coach? [S1] Just me and my coach. And sometimes it would just be me and the janitor. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And, uh, who's still there today. And, um, and, um, and then I'd play at lunchtime. [S2] That guy should get a medal. | 28.16 | 3.152053 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857815.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857816 | [S1] When, uh, when I, when I brought it up, like, where do you, is it genetic or you just learned it? I mean, how, how did that idea even come up? Because that's obviously a, a pillar of Mama mentality, the obsessiveness. This is just, like you said, I'm gonna get up at four, everybody's get up at six. If everybody's gonna get up at four, I'm gonna get up at two. [S2] Right. [S1] Right? How do you, how do you develop that or where do you, where do you learn that from? | 23.48 | 3.198648 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_BV1Rg411F7fs_p79_m4-dialogue_0857816.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p84_BV1Rg411F7fs_p84_m4-dialogue_0724240 | [S1] You know, thermonuclear war, you know, who can create the, the greatest deterrent to keep someone from dropping the bomb? And that is not good for the economy, that's not good for entrepreneurship, that's not good for the United States. [S2] Well, I mean, you brought up Google, so I, I wanna ask you a question, 'cause you've written, uh, about the company quite a bit. And I- [S1] Not that much, but- [S2] And, and so I get to ask a question that, that, that our host has agreed I'm allowed to ask, or at least they said, "Okay, John, you can." [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] What's your view of YouTube? | 28.4 | 3.172304 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p84_BV1Rg411F7fs_p84_m4-dialogue_0724240.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p84_BV1Rg411F7fs_p84_m4-dialogue_0724242 | [S1] But in reality, what is YouTube evolved to? It's a utility that in essence subsidized the bandwidth for video of the world. [S2] Now, how can that be a bad thing? [S1] Well, it's not bad for us, right? But in reality, from a business perspective, what if they really, you can do that anytime. They didn't have to go out and buy YouTube. They had Google Video. All you had to do was say, "Whatever video you have, you just post it and we'll pay for all the, the upload, the bandwidth and everything, the servers, the storage." | 25.08 | 3.351902 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16653746_BV1Rg411F7fs_p84_BV1Rg411F7fs_p84_m4-dialogue_0724242.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514330 | [S1] ... something like 189 or so, something like that. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And that's the third concerto, but, but I actually haven't done it for a couple of years. So I've been turning my, um, my attention to quite a lot of other things recently. Uh, very different repertoire. Uh, so I've tended to, to sort of slightly put that on the shelf for now, that concerto, because it is so difficult. Uh, and 189 times is probably enough for most people, so. [S2] [LAUGHS] | 25.16 | 3.230709 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514330.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514333 | [S1] Uh, and I wonder if Alfred Brandl's watching this, actually. It'd be very interesting to know. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Um, and I would like very much to discuss it with him because he's obviously got an opinion that's based on something other than those words. So I would be very intrigued to know. Um, th- there is something unbelievably great about Rachmaninoff. | 16.24 | 2.922055 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514333.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514343 | sometimes very conflicting emotions and, and the, the slightly depressive character of the composer and of the country that he comes from. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] I'm sorry about that. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] But it, it, it is so, it's such Russian music. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Much more than Tchaikovsky. Although Tchaikovsky was very obviously very, very, uh, in love with his own country, but he was also determined to be a European. Whereas Rachmaninoff remained Russian, very much so. [S1] Well, we're just going to discuss this now. [S2] I'm sorry to keep pre-empting. [S1] [LAUGHS] | 29.4 | 2.863574 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514343.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514345 | [S1] Yeah, so, so what I was trying to say is that it doesn't have to be like a churchy piece. [S2] No, no. [S1] Yeah, or a piece with religious sentiment. It's just really almost every melody is somehow connected to that principle. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And another thing is the, is the voice leading, which, which is connected, uh, to the practices of Russian Orthodox Church. And even in pieces that, again, have nothing to do with it, like this, this Prelude in B Major, doesn't really have any, anything churchy in the character. [S2] No. [S1] But I really hear | 29.88 | 2.814618 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514345.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514348 | [S1] So you have the both the big ones and the little ones. [S2] It's incredibly evocative. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Amazingly so. [S1] Yeah, well, I wanted- [S2] Could I play the most obvious, um, actually the most famous, a reference to Bells of Ul? [S1] Mm. | 11.48 | 2.864986 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514348.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514349 | [S1] So obvious, that it bells. It's so wonderful. So we, the, the most famous opening of any concerto, virtually, isn't it? And, and so, okay, evocative. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Extraordinarily evocative. [S2] Just wanted to actually play the, the Easter bell ringing. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Uh, which reminds you of one of the preludes that you're going to play later, which is the B-flat major one, which I also think has this, this, the triumphant Easter bells in it. [S1] Yeah. | 25.24 | 2.826993 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514349.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514352 | [S1] Yeah. [S2] Yes, indeed. [S1] Um, yeah, so- [S2] Well, yes, the, the history of that set of preludes, which for me is his greatest piano music, uh, 24 Preludes, um, the first one written as a student, I think- [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] ... as part of a, a suite of other pieces, and then extended that, uh, in Opus 23, | 19.76 | 3.042934 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514352.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514353 | [S1] Yeah, well, somebody actually made this, you know, put this thesis forward that the whole, you know, all 24 preludes are actually variations on the C-sharp minor prelude because they all have that motif that you played and also the motif, the chromatic motif from the middle section. But I think, you know, musicologists will tell you all, all these things, but I, I think that's going too far, yeah, because it's actually such basic- [S2] Well, yeah, it's, it's, it's style, actually. [S1] Yeah, there's | 26.28 | 3.165451 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_16724507_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_BV1Pa41177SZ_p1_m4-dialogue_0514353.mp3 | [
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