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[S1] when I was eight, but I would just tell everybody that's what I was going to be. Like, you know, it would be at like, you know, first day of school and they're like, "So what do you guys want to be when you grow up?" And everybody's like, "I want to be an astronaut," or like, "I want to be a ballerina." I'm like, "I'm going to be a financial advisor." [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And I don't know. I, I love my dad so much because he's so gung-ho for his job and I just saw how happy it made him and I just thought, like, I can broke stocks. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Like,
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[S1] sand and like playing catch and it just makes the whole thing much more fun. Um, so I think that was my favorite one to make. [S2] Yeah. Were there any cool locations or anything, um, for many of those videos? [S1] Well, yeah, we went to Kennybunkport, Maine, which was this little town that I've always dreamed of going to, and so shooting a video there was amazing. It's this little coastal town and it was, it was really awesome. I loved it.
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[S1] You can just do whatever, 'cause it's just you and your instrument. It's a really spontaneous part of the show. [S2] Yeah. Have you done any particularly unusual ones? [S1] Yeah. Um, you know, it's kind of unusual, unusual when I rap. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] I think Dear John has a fun payoff. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, if you go see the show, I, I really love singing that because in the end it's got this, you know, pyro-filled payoff in the end. [S2] Would you say those are two of the songs that get the crowd going the most or are there other ones?
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[S1] Um, I'd say, you know, you gotta come to a show because the crowds are really kind of steadily ear-piercingly loud throughout the whole show. They're amazing. Like, it's really hard to gauge, like, which is the moment that, that they're the loudest because they're just really, really loud. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] All the time.
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[S1] I do seem like that kind of person, but I, I haven't done it yet. I kind of think back on, um, the situations when I got them. Like when, when I fell in love with that particular guitar. Like there's one of my guitars, it's an acoustic and it's blue and it's got koi fish swimming up the neck. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And like inlays. It's just beautiful. And it was, um, Bob Taylor sent it to me for my 18th birthday. [S2] Oh, wow. [S1] So I remember the first time I, like, opened up this guitar case and I'm just like, "[GASPS]
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[S1] There's fish on the guitar. It's like this gorgeous guitar. And, um, so that's what I remember about that. And then there's this sparkly guitar that I play that has hundreds of tiny little crystals on it. And it looks like we had it specially made, but really we just glued them on. [S2] Oh, really? [S1] Yeah. And, and sometimes little ones fall, they fall off, and so we'll have to super glue more on with tweezers.
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[S1] Um, so that's always what cracked me up about that because it's like, everyone's like, "Where did you have your guitar specially made?" I'm like, "Super Glue." [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Like... [S2] Um, how many, how many guitars do you use in a show? How many of those do you go through? [S1] Oh, okay. Well, um... [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] That was a weird sound I just made. That was weird. Sorry. Um, the first one is electric. The second one...
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[S1] is acoustic koa, then there's the 12 string, then there's the blue koi fish one, and then there's, I look, four or five. [S2] Yeah, wow. [S1] And then there's a ukulele and a ganjo. [S2] Of course, and a piano, yeah.
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[S1] I, I watch a lot of TV. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Like a lot of TV. Um, and my favorites are like the crime shows where it starts out and, you know, you can't miss the first scene or else you miss, like, the discovery of this crime scene. And, and then, you know, the, the, like, twists and turns of it all. I love, um, CSI, uh, Law and Order, SBU, Without a Trace, NCIS, uh, Lock Up, Raw. [laughter] Like,
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[S1] 1860s and it's just this crazy, interesting read. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, so that's what I've been reading lately. I'm, I'm sort of obsessed with history. [S2] Yeah. Well, let's talk about books for a second. One of the questions that we got actually from one of the, uh, future Googlers, uh, in the, in the audience, uh, was that, about how you wrote, uh, a novel when you were 11 years old? [S1] I was 14. [S2] 14? [S1] No, wait. [S2] You were younger? [S1] I was like 13, I think. [S2] 13?
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[S1] Absolutely. I think that, um, you have to love it more than anything else, and you have to love it for so many more reasons other than your idea of what the end result could be. Like, you don't make an album so that you can get a platinum record to hang on your wall. [S2] Right. [S1] And you don't go on tour so that you can, um, hang the sold-out plaques up in, you know, your bedroom. It's like, it's,
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[S1] ... that'll be really great for you on tour. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Now, we actually, uh, so we handed out some tube socks to people that were coming in. Who got tube socks, uh, here? So, uh, we actually, there's a, a thing inside, uh, everybody that, all of you guys that got tube socks, you're actually getting tickets to Taylor's show tonight. So... [S2] I will see you later. [S1] So, uh, let's hear it one more time for Taylor Swift. Thank you for being here. [S2] Thank you.
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[S1] Welcome. [S2] Thank you. [S1] It's a, a real pleasure to have a footballer of your credentials, uh, with us today. Uh, I, and I think, I don't think I'm over-egging it when I say one of the iconic players of our time. And watching that video, laying out your glittering career before you, how do you feel when you see that? Um, I'm just reminded of a quote by a man that you know quite well, Arsene Wenger, who described you as the greatest striker ever, the Michael Jordan of football.
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[S1] Might sound harsh. Sorry, but, uh, keep you on your toes. [S2] You're clearly a perfectionist, then. [S1] Well, I think, uh, I don't know if everyone is, but that's, I always, uh, I see that you showed something yesterday that doesn't mean it's going to be the same on, uh, the day after. And so I always see it as it's a new race the day after. We're all on the same starting point. Les is going to win that race again today.
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[S1] So let's just take it back then. So when you were a young child, did you, as I understand it, you used to play in your cousin's bedroom with a tennis ball- [S2] Yes, that's- [S1] ... kicking, kicking the tennis ball around the bedroom when you were just five, six years old. Did you ever envisage at that point, Champions League winner, World Cup winner, European Championship winner, fifth on the all-time Premier League scoring list? [S2] No. [S1] Did, did you dream big?
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[S1] A lot of people said that and it didn't happen for them, so, uh, but what I wanted to do is to be prepared to be able to perform and, like I say, and I'll use to say, "The rest will take care of itself." [S2] So you, you mentioned there giving the coach something to work with. Now, one of the greatest coaches you've obviously ever worked with, Arsene Wenger, who you've described as a father figure. [S1] Yes. [S2] How much do you think your success, it's not down to him, but was nurtured by him and allowed you to realize your potential? [S1] The boss, Arsene Wenger, uh- [S2] You still call him the boss?
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[S1] You know, and, uh, it's well documented. I used to go in his, in his office upset for whatever reason. I, I don't receive the ball in the right time or why I'm, we're not playing like this or like that. And I remember going in his off- in his office, I got to tell him this, I got to tell him that, and I used to leave his office. I didn't tell him anything. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] And he told me what he wanted to tell me, and I closed the door. I'm like, "Hang on a minute.
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[S1] and unlock that and trigger your brain. It's very important because you have a lot of coaches I can tell you, I can, I can make you stronger, I can make you, you know, bigger, might work on your, on your, on your work tactically, but not a lot of coaches can say, "I'm going to make you, uh, smarter. I'm going to make you, make sure that you're going to use your brain, uh, on the field the right way." And he was one of those coaches. [S2] Did he help you off the field as well, do you feel? [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] With the team, yes. Yes, it's very important. Like I said to you, you need to have guys around that are going to understand what you're all about, understand your brain, understand that sometime you might lose it, but it's for the good of the team. And the guys that I played with understood that. And like I said to you, I understood them too. [S2] Um, Tia, who are some of the greatest players you played with? [S1] Oh. [S2] Dennis Birkham has to be one, doesn't he?
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[S1] Play simple, that's one of the most difficult thing. And great players do that. They stay simple when sometime you might showboat or whatever. No, they stay simple. And Denis had that in him, the way he was training. Also, he's the player that I played the, the longest with. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But understand, huh, then you have the freaks up there. But human beings, Denis, Denis-Bert and Pierre.
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[S1] When they don't play well. How dare you saying that about Arsenal? What shall I say? You know, it's, it's difficult. You have to call ultimately what you see in the game and try to call the game out. Uh, I try to stay in the game and what happened in the game and not what's happening outside of the game. It's not an easy one because some of the guys that I played against, some of the guys that I played with still, yeah, yeah, a lot actually. Um, so yeah, but you have to call what you see. And, uh, it's not, not that easy. I have, uh, I will be honest, especially when it comes down to Arsenal. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Uh, for me, but,
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[S1] I, I'm not bench or something in that area. [S2] I like how you lumped in onions with broccoli in Brussels sprouts. I've never heard that before. [S1] I, I just don't happen to like onion, but I don't put them in the same category. [S2] Okay. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] You and George H. W. Bush, I think. Um, is business school worth it?
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[S1] Uh, sure. Well, f- first of all, uh, thank you for having me. Uh, it's an honor to be here. Um, and, um, we're having a really, really great time, uh, with me- my kids in- in Dubai. It's really been fantastic. I'd really encourage anyone who hasn't been to- to visit. Uh, what a- what a great city. [S2] Thank you. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] That, if you'd ask people, say in 1900, what are the odds of, you know, man landing on the moon, they would have said, "That's ridiculous." Um, and if you talk, try to talk to them about the internet, they would not even know what the heck you're even- [S2] Talking about. [S1] ... What are you even talking about? Like, this sounds so crazy. Um, but today, uh, with a $100 device, uh, you can, you can, uh, video conference with anyone in the world.
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[S1] Well, I think it's both, you know? Um, it's, it's like, one way to think of it is imagine we were going to be visited, you, you, imagine you were very confident that we were going to be visited by super intelligent aliens, um, in, let's say 10 years or 20 years at the most. Super intelligent. [S2] So you think within 20 years- [S1] Yeah, so- [S2] ... we have alien on Earth.
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[S1] [laughs] Well, eh, digital superintelligence will be like an alien. [S2] It will be like an alien. [S1] Yeah. [S2] But, but my question is, do you think there is other intelligent life outside the Earth? [S1] It seems probable, but I think this is, this is one of the great questions in physics and philosophy, uh, is, uh, where are the aliens? Maybe they're among us, I don't know.
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[S1] They believe that human being are not from Earth. They came from somewhere else. Eve- [S2] Maybe. [S1] ... and Adam came from somewhere else to Earth. So in a way, human being alien to this land. Do you think we'll make contact with alien within the next 50 years? [S2] Well, that's a really tough one to say. Um, I mean, if there are,
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[S1] ... to UAE and Dubai. The first time I met you, it was 4th of June, 2015, at your office in SpaceX. And I ask you, "Would you have a presence in UAE?" And your answer was, "I'm busy with China." Maybe not in the near future. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And almost a year and a half later, we are here. See, time goes quite fast. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Why now?
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[S1] ... on a 10 bits per second or 100 if you're being generous. Um, so some ha- high bandwidth interface to the brain I think will be something that, uh, helps achieve a symbiosis and, between human and machine intelligence and maybe solves the control problem and the usefulness problem. [S2] Uh, all of us- [S1] Being pretty esoteric.
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[S1] Um, um, one of the biggest challenges I think is making sure you have a corrective feedback loop and then maintaining that corrective feedback loop over time, even when people want to tell you exactly what you want to hear. [S2] Okay. [S1] That's a very difficult. [S2] Yes.
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[S1] And in 2012, he surprises India, he surprises the world with launching a, a new TV talk show, Satyam Jyoti, Jyoti. [S2] Jyoti. [S1] Um, that tackles social issues, taboos, heads-on. I mean, you just put yourself out there. What inspired you to do that?
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[S1] Basically, it's kind of just the same re-occurring thing of, uh, yeah, not knowing who you are and, and feeling lost. [S2] And that's really in one sense, I think, must be why you're incredibly popular because that's a kind of a, a feeling of alienation that a lot of young people have, whether they're a, a, a model or, or not these days. [S1] Yeah. And I think,
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[S1] Again, so, yeah, this started when I was about 15 years old. I was at school. Um, I really wanted to do well at school to please my parents, to please my family. I didn't really care that much about school 'cause I knew I was never gonna be very good at it. Um, I think I pushed myself so far, got to the point where I had a bit of a mental breakdown. Um- [S2] Were you clever at school or stupid? [S1] [LAUGHS] Um, I was one of those people that just, like, just did enough work. [S2] Mm. Lazy. [S1] But, again-
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[S1] Where I still was kind of played with this depression and I was like, "I'm done. I need to leave." Which, to the rather large disagreement from my parents, I was, I, I did. I left and I knew I had to do something 'cause otherwise I would just go crazy. So I started modeling and I wanted to do it. I wanted to work every day. [S2] Wait a minute, how old were you then? You were 18. [S1] 17. [S2] 17. [S1] So this was, I left school early. I didn't finish my,
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[S1] Kind of, but that was also in 2011. It still took a while, but it was still more like in the fashion world, it definitely became a thing. You know, I was finally like in shows, I was like, "Ooh, this is weird." [S2] Right. [S1] Yeah, it definitely changed. But after that, it kind of, you know, you pick up pace, you start working. I was working every day. I had no concept of saying no to anyone, ever. Um- [S2] And this is one of the most important show business lessons, actually, learning how to say no. Have you learnt yet?
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[S1] That's a, that is amazing. So there you are, a beautiful model on the outside. [S2] Not the glass, not the glass, yeah. [S1] And on the inside, you've got psoriasis coming up. And how did you deal with it?
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[S1] Well, my agency were like, 'Cause usually you have to take time to fix internal problems. Like it's food and stress and, but, you know, they shoved me straight into a doctor who would inject cortisone into each spot, which died them, but not really, and they, you know, that kind of thing. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] It's like, all those problems I had, I feel like I masked with medicine, instead of taking the time to really solve them. But at that time, I really wanted someone to stop me. I wanted someone to go, "You need to take a break. You need to look after yourself."
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[S1] Being able to show, like have a mirror up at yourself and really look inside for what you need. And what happened was I eventually said no, and I eventually took a break. Um, to the advice of Kate Moss, who kind of picked me up off the floor, passed out, being covered in pink. [S2] What was she doing down on that floor? [S1] Nothing. [S2] Hitting. [S1] I know. But
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[S1] But, um, but yeah, so I said no, I went, I started writing. Writing was something that really saved my life, um, again, so that pro- poem probably came out then. It was like I would write and I would read what I'd written and it was like someone else was talking to me. I was like, "What? Is that how I feel?" It was a very strange experience. [S2] And are you living in Los Angeles now or are you going to live here? [S1] I'm living wherever I'm made to be. [S2] Wherever you wear your hat.
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[S1] But like, no one really knows about it. And I just think, there are just so many things. I always say to girls, just dream, just dream bigger. Go for president. Just keep going up. Astronauts, I don't know. [S2] Well, you're really young, so you've got tons of time. You can even go back to university, age 30, and study, uh- [S1] Yeah, exactly. [S2] Genetics. [S1] I might. I might. [S2] But, Cara, thank you very, very much. Uh, it's been great. Good luck with everything. [S1] Thank you. [S2] And, uh, it was really fascinating to listen to what you were saying. Thanks a lot. [S1] I have one other thing to say.
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[S1] Have a seat, have a seat. Welcome, welcome to Google. Um, so let's, uh, let's kick off, no pun intended, with a little, little soccer. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Or for our international friends, football. You know, you, David, you really have had a global soccer career. I mean, you joined Manchester United at the young age of 17. You won nine major trophies in 11 years there, very impressive. You then joined Real Madrid, where you won another trophy.
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[S1] And then since 2007, you've been here in the US playing for the LA Galaxy, where last year you won yet another trophy. And I think that puts you in a very rare group of trifecta winners of three trophies on three different countries. So congratulations. [S2] Thank you very much. [S1] And then obviously while, while preparing to meet you last night, I heard, I read even more news last night, the big news, that you decided to stay here in the US and continue to play for the US, the, the LA Galaxy.
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[S1] Um, well, good morning, first of all. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Um, I'm excited to be here. To be part of this is, is exciting for me. And, um, to be here with you all and, uh, everyone else watching around the world, it's, uh, it's exciting. Google's one of the biggest, uh, companies in the world, so, um, I'm honored to be here today. Um, my decision, obviously, throughout my career has always been about my family, about, you know, my, my career, about my, my football, footballing career.
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[S1] ... is growing. Um, and, you know, to see when I first arrived, there'd be 12, 12 teams in, in the league. Uh, now there's 19. Um, there's stadiums being built around America solely for soccer, which is a, which is a big thing. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, and, uh, that's, that's the exciting part of why I am one of the reasons why I wanted to stay.
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[S1] ... I'm building a following here at Google as well. [S2] Thank you. Thank you. [S1] Um, so let's dig into some of the questions right away. You know, we'll start with football. Uh, Tao Muyi from California wants to know, "What is the biggest difference between playing football in America versus Europe?"
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[S1] you know, this game is starting to attract, um, the interest of some big names and big players in, um, in Europe. And I think, you know, th- there has to be a certain change with, you know, uh, some of the things that goes on throughout the league. But I think, you know, it's a league now where, you know, European teams, big European teams are coming over for their pre-seasons- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... and they're playing against us. So, you know, five years ago, you know, uh,
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[S1] Kind of the galaxy had been heard of, but I think now, with the interest of the players that have come over, such as Robbie Keene and obviously London Donovan as a, as a, you know, as a US star. [S2] Right. [S1] Um, you know, we've had that, that, that interest and it's, uh, it's exciting to be part of. [S2] Yeah, I think it must be great to see the growth, you know, see the change year over year in, in the speed and the power of the players.
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[S1] We have got a lot of talented players in our country and, uh, we're very passionate and it's where the game began in, you know, so for me, um, definitely, I, I think England are gonna win a World Cup at some point. [S2] America's just pacing themselves. [S1] The US a few years behind us, but... [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... a few years after. [S2] Exactly. JT?
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[S1] I think you never know. I mean, that's the beauty of the game. I mean, I think, you know, you work hard, train hard. [S2] I mean, that's what soccer's all about. You know, it's all about upsets. It's all about, you know, uh, you know, teams that you don't think are as good as other teams going in and beating them. You know, that's what the FA Cup is all about in, in England. You know, lower league teams go in and they beat some of the, you, you know, the, the best premiership teams, uh, in England. So, um, it's what it's all about. But I think, I think we'd do well over there. [S1] That's good. Maybe one day.
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[S1] It might be a bit cold for a few players in, in December, but, uh, we'd do well. [S2] Oh, that's great. Uh, JT mentioned the charity game that you played, and I think, you know, we've seen you do a lot of philanthropic work throughout your career. I think we touched on it in the UNICEF work and the highlight video. And recently we saw that you were in Afghanistan visiting some troops there. Can you tell us a little bit about what that trip was and what you did there? [S1] I mean, I, I know it sounds...
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[S1] I'd prefer to, to, to go into the field and, and see the kids, you know, in Sierra Leone or in, in different parts of Africa and, uh, around the world and, and coach them because it's, it's making a huge difference. Uh, going to Afghanistan was something that I'd always wanted to do. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, to see the troops, of course, you know, and, uh, when I got, when I ruptured my Achilles two years ago, uh, I had some time off, obviously, and, and I thought, okay, I need to put that to,
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[S1] and made everything and we had the product, um, all ready to go. And then H&M came in and they said, "Look, we can, we can make this better for you." [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, and, uh, and they did. You know, they, they're taking it to 1800 stores, um, 40 different countries. Um, and it's something that I could've probably, it'd have taken a few years, but, you know, wouldn't have reached that level of, uh,
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[S1] that, uh, were amazing. It was where Ronaldo, the Brazilian player, uh, got a stand innovation from the Manchester United fans. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, and that team, watching that team, uh, the way they played for me, you know, it, it left you kind of
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[S1] And I would have to lie and say, "I've been great, I'm fine." [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] When actually I was not feeling okay because I didn't have the strength and I didn't have the words to explain to somebody what I was experiencing. Um, and so just the diagnosis in itself, to me, felt like a massive relief. At least now we knew what this was. Um,
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[S1] I wanted to make that journey that I had been through of the unknown, of not understanding what I was going through, I wanted to help somebody who's probably in that same situation, not understanding what they're going through, uh, and, and probably help them understand, um, their, their signs and symptoms. And that was sort of the, the intention of, of going public with the illness and then also subsequently setting up the Live Love Love Foundation. [S2] Thank you. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] And the, this is one of the largest killers of young people. [S2] Yes. [S1] It's serious and that's why. So what would be your advice to young people? What they should do for themselves and what they should do to help others.
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[S1] All of those things are things that I still have to, uh, do on a regular basis, uh, to ensure that I don't go back, uh, into that dark world and dark space, um, again. [S2] Thank you. So together we hope to make a difference. Namaste. [S1] Namaste. Thank you. [applause]
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[S1] Hello, everyone. I'm Emma Watson. I'm delighted to be welcoming you all to the opening of the Intu Film Festival. Uh, it's an honor to be joined by Malala Yousafzai. Hello, Malala. [S2] Hello. [S1] [LAUGHS] First, I just wanted to say how wonderful I thought the film was and that you're just my absolute hero, so this is- [S2] Thank you so much. [S1] This is, um- [S2] It's my great honor to see you as well. [S1] Aww. [S2] So excited.
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[S1] It's, that's amazing. And I thought that the animation in the film was so beautiful. [S2] Thank you. [S1] And I loved the mythology behind it. And it just really, it, it was so beautifully done and, and so well told. And I completely agree with you. I think it's great that people are watching the film and it's wonderful, but it's great that you want people to really do something and, and, and take action as well. And, and this is about a movement, not just a film. I think it's amazing that it's, it's going so far beyond that. Um,
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[S1] I'm so moved to hear that. That's absolutely amazing. And I agree with you. It's, um, it's become this really difficult word, but I think it's, it's wonderful when people do embrace it because it should be synonymous with equality. [S2] People have forgotten its definition. [S1] They really, really have. Um, so that's wonderful. Wow. I'm so moved to hear that. Uh,
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[S1] ... with this. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] I agree with this. Um, very, uh, trivial question compared to some of the others, but I had to ask. Um, that really, really bright pink color that you wear, it's one of my absolute favorite colors, and I see you with it a lot, and I wondered if it was lucky or if it had any sort of special meaning to you.
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[S1] You know, shy, that is struggling with all of the attention that's being thrust on her. But I thought it was wonderful that you'd chosen this, this bright color, which meant that you wanted to be seen and, and, uh, you know, and you wanted to spread your message in spite of that. And I thought that was wonderful. [S2] Thank you. [S1] As a big book fan, I have to ask you, um, what was your last favorite book? Was there anything that you read in the last year that you just fell in love with?
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[S1] Uh, for your ideals and your dream and this movement. And it made me really emotional, actually. And, uh, so I just wanted to thank you again for being who you are. [S2] Thank you. [S1] And for being so brave. Um, so other than going home, is there anything that you like the idea of doing? If you could be, if you had magical powers and you could be invisible for a day, what you would do?
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] Both together. [S1] Yeah. [S2] That's good. Um, if you could give us 12, 13 year olds any advice, what would it be? And this is from Jake in Northern Ireland.
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[S1] even counts them, the number you hear are just focused on primary level. [S2] Right. [S1] So that's also tragic that we don't collect the data that we need, which is how many girls drop school at secondary level and how many are out of school. But in terms of primary education, there are about like five to six million children in Pakistan. And, um, it's, it's really important that we think of, uh, supporting them in education. Pakistan is now, right now at a stage of having, uh, trying to develop strong democracy and improve and fight against terrorism.
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[S1] And, you know, it's, gender equality is something that will affect your life too, as men and as boys. And, uh, it's just an issue that I believe about so passionately and, and any of your, your helpful support is, is greatly, greatly appreciated. And, uh, thank you so much. [S2] Thank you. [S1] Thank you, Malala. [S2] Well, thank you. [S1] Thank you. [S2] I so talk to you.
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[S1] And the year 2008 and nine, when the financial crisis came, I think it's better go back to work. Because we can never win the world by talking. So we go back, spend seven years. Now I come back, I think it's time to do something in return. Because I learned so much. [S2] Let's talk about that. [S1] 12 years ago. So why I should not talking to the young global leader of today, sharing with them how we gone through. [S2] Okay. [S1] So that was the thing.
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[S1] And I hope 15 years later, people forget about e-commerce because they think it's like electricity. Nobody think it's a high tech today. Now, this is something that I don't want 15 years later. We still walk on the street talking about why and how e-commerce can help people. [S2] You tried to get into three colleges. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Each time they rejected you.
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[S1] You, you will never believe in, in Hangzhou, my city, there's only one middle school that last only one year. It was changed from primary school, middle school, because our graduates of our, our, our school, no university, no middle school accept us because we were too bad. [S2] Yeah. [S1] [LAUGHS] They would become a middle school. [S2] [LAUGHS] What effect did it have, though, uh, being rejected?
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[S1] So I've been using them for that many years. [S2] Yeah. [S1] First visit to America, 1995. [S2] 1995, yeah. I, uh, I came here for a project helping the local government to building up a highway.
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[S1] Good. So I went down the street, asked about 10, 20 people. They all know about Alibaba, 40 Thieves, and, uh, Open Sesame, and I think, "This is a good name." And start with A, whatever you talk about, Alibaba's always top. [S2] You have said before that in creating Alibaba, you had to create trust. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Uh, because people in China were used to face-to-face.
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] How did you create trust? [S1] I think, um, because we started about it between business and internet. I don't know you, you don't know me. So how can you do things online unless you have trust? So for e-commerce, the most important thing was trust. I think when I, when I first went to USA for raising money, talk to the venture capitalists, a lot of people say, "Oh, Jack, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."
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[S1] You wire the money to me. And I don't know you. I give a per- person a package. I don't know him. He took something to so cross the ocean, cross river and sand. This is the trust. We have six, at least, at least 60 million trust happening every day. [S2] But you created by creating an escrow account in the beginning. [S1] Yep. [S2] You know, and so you keep the money until they got the product. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And then you release the money.
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[S1] Stupid things you can do, it's better. [S2] Ali Pay is a privately held thing, it's not part of Alibaba. [S1] No, it's a private. [S2] Let me talk about money for a second. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Uh, you have never gotten money from the Chinese government? [S1] No. [S2] None. None. [S1] I, I, I, I, um, I want at the beginning. [S2] Okay. [S1] Later, I don't want it because I think if the company always think about a picking money from all, all the government office pockets, that company is, is rubbish.
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[S1] Think about how can you make money from the customers and market and then help customers succeed. That's our philosophy. [S2] No money from Chinese banks? [S1] No. No. I, I, at that time I want and now they gonna give me, I don't want it. [S2] Yeah. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] All right. Um, your relationship with the government. [S1] Mm-hmm. Yeah. [S2] What's your relationship? I mean, if they didn't wa- Here's what some say, uh, that you have existed in an environment that's not, you know, they have restricted competition for you.
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[S1] And you have the chance. So today I'm very talkative. That probably, this is why I talk to so many people. [S2] [LAUGHS] You were also seen in Hollywood. [S1] Yeah. [S2] What are you doing in Hollywood?
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[S1] I like the, uh, the Hollywood, um, innovation and the digital. I learned so much about the Hollywood movies, especially the Forrest Gump. [S2] You love Forrest Gump. [S1] I love Forrest Gump. [S2] But why do you like him? [S1] Simple.
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[S1] Never give up. [S2] Never give up. [S1] People, people thinking he's done, but he knows what he's doing. And I was very depressed the day, year 2002 or three in the States, when I, oh, no, no, no, no, a bit earlier than that. I was very depressed when I, I could not find another way for the internet. And I watched the movie in my friend's home, Forrest Gump. When I see him, I think, "This is the guy we should learn from."
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[S1] Product that can help Chinese young people to understand. 'Cause one thing I told the Chinese people, uh, my, my friends, in American movie, all the heroes at the beginning, they look like a bad guy. But terrible things coming, they become hero. And finally, they all survived. China, if you move hero, all the hero died. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So- [S2] Change that. [S1] Because only dead people become the hero. So nobody want be the hero.
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