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True | zmeefy | null | Tell me 1 + 1 = 2 right? No, it equals 10 in binary. | null | 0 | 1315784053 | True | 0 | c2j5lpw | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5lpw | t1_c2j5kmn | null | 1427587702 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | zenojevski | null | Well, we received XMLHttpRequest, innerHTML, CSS3 Grid Layout, an alternative (saner) box model, just to name a few... | null | 0 | 1315784055 | False | 0 | c2j5lq3 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5lq3 | t1_c2j4tgj | null | 1427587702 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Poltras | null | Just a FYI; It can run LLVM bytecode which is platform agnostic. | null | 0 | 1315784160 | False | 0 | c2j5m47 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5m47 | t1_c2j4uo5 | null | 1427587705 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MarshallBanana | null | > I didn't intend to imply it was an intentional lie
There really is no other meaning of the expression "FUD" than "intentional lie". | null | 0 | 1315784327 | False | 0 | c2j5mrd | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5mrd | t1_c2j5j62 | null | 1427587710 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | sztomi | null | Python is better :3 | null | 0 | 1315784387 | False | 0 | c2j5n0i | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5n0i | t1_c2j58j7 | null | 1427587712 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | NitWit005 | null | Starting off targeting Chrome only, and never supporting other browsers are clearly two different things.
Also, I recall there were other words in the document. | null | 0 | 1315784387 | False | 0 | c2j5n0n | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5n0n | t1_c2j5lpw | null | 1427587712 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | i don't think you understand the term 'anti-competitive' :\ Their apps MUST work in ALL browsers, not just theirs, not just one. | null | 0 | 1315784403 | False | 0 | c2j5n35 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5n35 | t1_c2j5h6l | null | 1427587714 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Google are like every other company out to dominate entirely, and they'll do everything it takes including ignoring laws that dont suit them so stop kidding yourselves that they're a nice company. They are evil, as evil as the rest. Just bigger and with more power. | null | 0 | 1315784475 | False | 0 | c2j5ndc | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5ndc | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427587715 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | therapy | null | Edit: removing this comment since I misunderstood the comment I was replying to. Sorry for that. | null | 0 | 1315784518 | True | 0 | c2j5nk8 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5nk8 | t1_c2j5jaj | null | 1428194452 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | sltkr | null | Actually, you end up calling IsKnown *N-1* times (assuming N includes the celebrity). | null | 0 | 1315784528 | False | 0 | c2j5nlm | t3_kcf1k | null | t1_c2j5nlm | t1_c2j57v6 | null | 1428194452 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | honcas | null | Frankly, PLA.
Javascript looks C-like, but doesn't **act** C-like, which means that right out of the gate, there are lots of gotchas. Then there are the outright errors in the language...but at least those are well-known. | null | 0 | 1315784561 | False | 0 | c2j5nqa | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5nqa | t1_c2j57pa | null | 1427587731 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | zmeefy | null | PS. You keep separating things into words in order to make sense. Just stop it already, I hate Google bashers on this forum. Geezus. | null | 0 | 1315784572 | True | 0 | c2j5nrx | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5nrx | t1_c2j5n0n | null | 1427587721 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | abomb999 | null | Iraq also had WMD, what's your point? | null | 0 | 1315784620 | False | 0 | c2j5nzp | t3_kbdgw | null | t1_c2j5nzp | t1_c2j4miy | null | 1427587727 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kidjan | null | > will you at least admit that the vc portion is just a slightly better piece of shit visual source safe?
Whoa, no. You've gone too far. TFS resoundingly whoops the shit out of VSS. _anything_ whoops the shit out of visual source safe, for that matter. | null | 0 | 1315784912 | False | 0 | c2j5p5z | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j5p5z | t1_c2j3bfc | null | 1427587746 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | 732 | null | Everything is temporary in that sense. If you space it out over a long enough time frame, the Earth is temporary. | null | 0 | 1315784952 | False | 0 | c2j5pcn | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5pcn | t1_c2j5eyt | null | 1427587746 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | You're going to get modbombed because Reddit is full of consistent Google supporters who actually believe a global advertising megacorp wants people to target Chrome in order to make their custom language faster in other browsers and not just to make Chrome the only browser. Yes, it doesn't make any sense, and yes, you'll get downvoted for pointing it out. | null | 0 | 1315784988 | False | 0 | c2j5pid | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5pid | t1_c2j55kx | null | 1427587749 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | holloway | null | Some browser blogs I read say that they're wary of encouraging a default language that's too low-level like NaCl bytecode. JavaScript has its problems but at least it's high-level which means that modern browsers can understand enough to 'compile' it with modern optimisations (e.g., so that in the future we're not stuck running abandoned NaCl bytecode that was generated 20 years ago with sluggish compiler settings). E.g. some parts of JavaScript can now be distributed over multiple CPUs despite JavaScript being used as a single-threaded model (webworkers excluded) so there are many future optimisations that are only allowed by having a high-level view of the code.
Please note that I'm not saying JavaScript is perfect, or even good, but rather that we'll probably want something equally high-level if we're trying to replace it.
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True | Jedakiah | null | This idea has serious drawbacks. Want to access your e-mail from your smartphone? Buy one that has a full USB port and make sure to plug in the dongle... | null | 0 | 1315785049 | False | 0 | c2j5prn | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5prn | t1_c2j54qk | null | 1427587752 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kidjan | null | > TFS is far from being ideal, but it's still allows better workflows than SVN. Just one word: 'shelveset'.
I really don't think it's that simple. TFS is really great if you're on the same LAN as the server (i.e. you report to work in the morning). But the second you seriously try and do some work remotely (e.g. over the internet, on a VPN, etc.), _it is painful_. And I say this as someone who used TFS for about five years as a remote employee. SVN is a way better experience remotely, because it's fine if your VPN drops for a bit, or your network goes away. I like both, but I'd take the SVN experience remotely any day.
They're really two different models, and depending on the team one may make a hell of a lot more sense than the other. | null | 0 | 1315785082 | False | 0 | c2j5px4 | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j5px4 | t1_c2j3c4x | null | 1427587754 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | funkah | null | Yep, the low hanging fruit has been harvested already. | null | 0 | 1315785086 | False | 0 | c2j5pxx | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5pxx | t1_c2j4ncr | null | 1427587754 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | That doesn't make any sense. If people only target Chrome, that makes Chrome the web, and puts it under control of Google. People bitched about Microsoft doing that with IE once upon a time. | null | 0 | 1315785145 | False | 0 | c2j5q6a | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5q6a | t1_c2j4xug | null | 1427587757 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | > They've accumulated an army of CS PHDs over the years.
So what? | null | 0 | 1315785173 | False | 0 | c2j5qa7 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5qa7 | t1_c2j4tc5 | null | 1427587756 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | thcobbs | null | >that no unapproved data-mining is happening.
By default ALL data-mining is approved... you have to opt-out... | null | 0 | 1315785246 | False | 0 | c2j5qlb | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5qlb | t1_c2j5k01 | null | 1427587758 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | thcobbs | null | Doesn't matter if I get downvoted.
The truth sucks, maybe they will realize it sooner since I've posted here. | null | 0 | 1315785283 | False | 0 | c2j5qre | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5qre | t1_c2j5pid | null | 1427587760 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | > Don't confuse a present (and temporary) lack of support for rich enough UI widgets and controls and/or a present (and temporary) lack of support for workaround technologies like Flash with some inherent (and never-to-change) inability to deliver the same content and experience via web apps.
**Web Apps won the war (in 2057)** | null | 0 | 1315785292 | False | 0 | c2j5qst | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5qst | t1_c2j5am7 | null | 1427587761 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | Notice that all the pro-Google posts are getting voted up and the anti-Google posts are getting voted down. Nice to see where the allegiance of the hivemind lies. | null | 0 | 1315785293 | False | 0 | c2j5qt2 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5qt2 | t1_c2j4pgl | null | 1427587761 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ElSherberto | null | I hate to be pedantic, but you really can't. You can compile *Chromium*, which does not have the data mining features that Chrome does.
[Google has clearly outlined what information Chrome collects on you and the fact that this is not included in Chromium](http://blog.chromium.org/2008/10/google-chrome-chromium-and-google.html), so there's no way to verify and approve of what data-mining is happening other than inspecting packet data being sent through your computer. | null | 0 | 1315785330 | False | 0 | c2j5qze | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5qze | t1_c2j5k01 | null | 1427587763 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Bravais | null | Dude, is it impossible to believe that M$ does not have the manpower or expertise to allow Googles pages to function in IE, yet they refuse.
All M$ needs to do is have IE support basic, simple universal web standards. | null | 0 | 1315785363 | False | 0 | c2j5r4d | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5r4d | t1_c2j57qo | null | 1427587764 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | thcobbs | null | >Chrome is being used in the same way it was originally used, to ~~push the envelop of the web~~ datamine for advertisements, and forward the Google brand.
FTFY
>The V8 engine when it came out forced all browser makers to speed up along side, I call this an improvement.
Oh really? Have any data on that... or is that just fanboyism?
edit: added branding. | null | 0 | 1315785365 | False | 0 | c2j5r4m | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5r4m | t1_c2j5b4v | null | 1427587764 | -10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | stuhacking | null | Barfulous. | null | 0 | 1315785387 | False | 0 | c2j5r83 | t3_k9h3s | null | t1_c2j5r83 | t1_c2iw66o | null | 1427587765 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | > It is possible to succeed just by making a better product. That is how most companies do it.
Google's core business is web ads, and it is the source of their revenue. Therefore, everything they do is related to supporting their web ad business. Chrome exists to get users onto Google services for data mining purposes. | null | 0 | 1315785397 | False | 0 | c2j5r9t | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5r9t | t1_c2j5hew | null | 1427587766 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Oracle isn't suing Google over Java.
Oracle is suing Google over their proprietary Oracle(Sun) Java Virtual Machine, which they claim Google infringe on several technologies when they reimplemented the Java language in Dalvik. | null | 0 | 1315785400 | False | 0 | c2j5rae | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5rae | t1_c2j5djt | null | 1427587766 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | drig23 | null | I'm not seeing anything wrong here. Everyone knows JavaScript has weaknesses. One of those is "tooling", which I take to mean support for refactoring, code completion, etc. So that Eclipse works right.
The article indicates that JavaScript is optionally statically typed. That's great!! It means simple "make this button call this function" stuff is easy, but you can enforce it for any larger-sized project.
And, targeting Chrome makes sense to me. My team targets Firefox, then we clean up for Chrome, Safari and IE. But, if I were working at Google, I'd target Chrome first, and worry about the other browsers later. Otherwise you spend half your development cycle worrying about browser-compatibility.
They say they'll have Harmony-to-ECMAScript converter, so the applications will run in other browsers. But, let the teams develop Chrome, then port and test, rather than limit themselves to the lowest-common-denominator. | null | 0 | 1315785411 | False | 0 | c2j5rc2 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5rc2 | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427587767 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | Reddit, and /r/programming in particular, has long been blindingly loyal to Google. Hacker News is the same way. If you even hint at criticizing the company, fanboys will pile on, and you risk getting voted down. That so many people defend a multi-billion dollar megacorp whose sole incentive is using your data for advertising is astonishing. | null | 0 | 1315785457 | False | 0 | c2j5rj9 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5rj9 | t1_c2j5g5f | null | 1427587769 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Greydmiyu | null | CRAP! Disregard. Eyes saw ActiveX, brain read DirectX. ಠ\_ಠ
3, 3 self-downvotes, ah, ah, ahhhhhh | null | 0 | 1315785512 | False | 0 | c2j5rrt | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5rrt | t1_c2j5hjr | null | 1427587778 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | thcobbs | null | >No, it's "we make all our money off the web, Javascript makes the web non-optimal, and non-optimal things have a harder time competing with systems like iOS
So... tldr; we didn't invent/control it so use our version.
edit: not advocating any other approach... just pointing out the facts.
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True | ElSherberto | null | If you continue reading past the first sentence, you'll find that I spent the rest of my comment answering that question.
I'm not advocating Dash as a viable technology. In fact, [I've said the opposite in other comments on this post](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/kc9ai/internal_googledocument_we_will_strongly/c2j4x3b). All I intended to argue is that they have the resources needed to create such a technology and to possibly make it an interesting toy to play with. I have strong doubts that it will succeed or be useful for any practical uses. | null | 0 | 1315785569 | False | 0 | c2j5s07 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5s07 | t1_c2j5qa7 | null | 1427587775 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | > I believe that the main advantage of web-based applications was security by default.
That is also their biggest limitation. There are some people more than willing to abandon that in order to get native-like features.
Meanwhile the security features for installed mobile devices are, to put it bluntly, worthless. Users, even those who work in IT, are not trained to critically exam an application to see if it really needs the permissions it asks for. And even if it does, there is no way to prevent an application from misusing something that it has a legitimate use for. | null | 0 | 1315785591 | False | 0 | c2j5s3j | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5s3j | t1_c2j5h3v | null | 1427587777 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | fatlittleturtle | null | And Chrome has code not included in Chromium, closed source stuff....what does it do? | null | 0 | 1315785704 | False | 0 | c2j5skh | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5skh | t1_c2j5qlb | null | 1427587787 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | drig23 | null | The reason we were upset back then was that Microsoft was breaking basic functioning and rendering of the web. If you wrote it so it worked in IE, you couldn't get it to work in Netscape.
ActiveX was a prime example. It relied on COM and was incredibly difficult to make an emulator for. So, any page that relied on ActiveX would not run in Netscape. It was done this way with the explicit intent of making it impossible for Netscape to compete.
This was only pernicious because of the market share of IE. Since it came with every computer, and users were much less savvy back then, IE *was* the web. Nowadays, you can release whatever crap you want, and unless it runs on at least 3 browsers no one will take it seriously. No one is over-dominant in the market like MS was in the 1990s. It's a good thing. | null | 0 | 1315785810 | False | 0 | c2j5t0m | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5t0m | t1_c2j5q6a | null | 1427587789 | 21 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | Among other things, Google is referring to a wider [wider industry trend toward native code](http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/C-and-Beyond-2011-Herb-Sutter-Why-C) and away from the web. Websites are becoming the thing you use when you don't have an app available on your phone. In fact, the web browser itself is a relic of the desktop PC era.
You're not even correct about increasing hardware speed. Processor speed has stagnated, and multcore is seeing diminishing returns. Therefore, the place to improve speed (which leads to improved battery life and responsiveness, important on a mobile device) is in more efficient languages.
It sounds like you're a devoted JavaScript developer who overreacts to the notion that JavaScript and HTML5 in general might not be the future of application development. Well, it's not. | null | 0 | 1315785815 | False | 0 | c2j5t1n | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5t1n | t1_c2j470o | null | 1427587789 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | heathkit | null | The striking thing to me about that memo is that Google's long-term plan is to apparently move their backend to Go. This paper very much reads to me like they're trying to eliminate any dependency on Java. I wonder if that has any implications for Android... Will we see a Go compiler that targets the Dalvik VM? | null | 0 | 1315785969 | False | 0 | c2j5tib | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5tib | t3_kawp5 | null | 1427587802 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | My god, the amount of fud here is amazing.
HEY READ THE WHOLE DAMNED PARAGRAPH:
> We will strongly encourage Google developers start off targeting Chrome-only
whenever possible as this gives us the best end user experience. However,
**for some apps this will not make sense, so we are building a compiler for
Dash that targets Javascript (ES3).** We intend for existing Google teams
using GWT and JSCompiler to eventually migrate to the Dash compiler.
In other words, this is like using Coffeescript to write your client-side code. Then one day, have your browser support Coffeescript natively.
Where does it make sense to target Chrome-Only first?
- internal apps
- public apps still in internal development (with planned support for other browsers in the future)
- chrome-experiment tagged apps (this is a grey area)
This is an obvious move - if you're designing a new standard, you want people to actually use the damn thing so you can find the holes in it. | null | 0 | 1315786038 | True | 0 | c2j5tti | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5tti | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427587800 | 30 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | stravant | null | Even something sort of like what Lua does with with the eval function being able to take byte-code as well as source code would be nice. | null | 0 | 1315786080 | False | 0 | c2j5tz9 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5tz9 | t1_c2j5d2r | null | 1427587804 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | codeshite | null | Except magic is entertaining. | null | 0 | 1315786222 | False | 0 | c2j5ujv | t3_kadw2 | null | t1_c2j5ujv | t1_c2ir59y | null | 1427587809 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | yummyshit | null | I just registered because of this post. Congratulations, and thanks for sharing.
I'm trying to learn Python and this has brought back memories of my linux terminal programming days. | null | 0 | 1315786235 | False | 0 | c2j5ulp | t3_kbbbu | null | t1_c2j5ulp | t3_kbbbu | null | 1427587819 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | Are the abstractions really to expensive cognitively and computationally in this case?
What about having iterators, functions:
first(collection) : iterator
last(collection) : iterator
before_first(collection) : iterator
after_last(collection) : iterator
move(iterator, increment): iterator
next(iterator): iterator
is_after_last(iterator): bool
is_before_first(iterator): bool
after(iterator, iterator): bool
Then have some standard forms, like for each and list comprehensions so most people don't need them to use the primitive iterators.
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True | grauenwolf | null | >> And in another ten years we may get to the point where two different applications can share the same offline files.
> Why is that remotely relevant?
You are the one who brought up offline storage, not me. It isn't about caching, it is about breaking free of the walled garden. | null | 0 | 1315786433 | False | 0 | c2j5vfr | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5vfr | t1_c2j5dr3 | null | 1427587823 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315786440 | False | 0 | c2j5vgz | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5vgz | t1_c2j5jaj | null | 1427587823 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | >Native mobile apps are trendy because the medium is new - they're a novelty - and because mobile apps are still poor at connecting to the web. However, the web was already in the process of burying desktop apps for ever-increasing swathes of functionality before touchscreen smartphones came along, in spite of the fact it wasn't as pretty or polished as desktop apps could be.
Native mobile apps are taking over because they're more efficient and provide a richer, more immersive experience. The limitations of the web are too great to fulfill the fantasy you have of a web-based application platform.
> Aside from the novelty factor (and the fact smartphone internet access and CPU-speeds are about where desktop machines were five-ten years ago), I can't see any reason why in the future (as access and device-speeds improve) the web won't do the same to native "desktop" apps on smartphone platforms too.
The biggest reason current web languages won't win out is that processor power has plateaued. Machines aren't getting faster all the time like they used to, which gave scripting languages a lot of leeway for many years and convinced people that efficiency was no longer important.
Now that developers can no longer rely on increasingly powerful processors, performance-per-dollar has become important again. Native apps present a more immersive experience, preserve battery life, and provide a more responsive interface, which is incredibly important for touchscreens.
> It just seems like we've already had this battle, and the web won it hands down.
What did the web win? Websites are becoming what you visit when you don't have a native app on your phone. The very concept of the browser is a relic of a desktop platform quickly being replaced with specialized devices like tablets, phones, and even game consoles running devoted applications making asynchronous data calls. | null | 0 | 1315786451 | False | 0 | c2j5vj0 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5vj0 | t1_c2j4si3 | null | 1427587824 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | LtArson | null | If by IE you mean 'IE6 and IE7' then, yes, you're right. Google does not support browsers that are 5 years old. If you mean anything else, you're talking out of your ass.
And I assure you, I am significantly more qualified to have an opinion on this than you are. | null | 0 | 1315786479 | False | 0 | c2j5vn0 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5vn0 | t1_c2j5k7w | null | 1427587825 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | averyv | null | Except people actually paid Microsoft for shit.
Also, they waited until they were winning to start fucking everything up. | null | 0 | 1315786486 | False | 0 | c2j5vo0 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5vo0 | t1_c2j0mr8 | null | 1427587825 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | campbellm | null | I.... don't get it.
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True | stravant | null | > CorbaJSONXParser
[FTFY](http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wsdatap/v3r8m1/index.jsp?topic=/xs40/convertingbetweenjsonandjsonx05.htm) | null | 0 | 1315786542 | False | 0 | c2j5vui | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5vui | t1_c2j5fb8 | null | 1427587826 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | KrzaQ2 | null | Hey, check out this new feature I found in gcc! I think it's called compiling. | null | 0 | 1315786587 | False | 0 | c2j5w0h | t3_kcew5 | null | t1_c2j5w0h | t3_kcew5 | null | 1427587829 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | > Sure, the web won it — for email clients and discussion media.
Not even for that. Have you ever tried to include a picture inside GMail? You can't do it, you have to drop into a real email client like Outlook.
| null | 0 | 1315786596 | False | 0 | c2j5w1m | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5w1m | t1_c2j4z0k | null | 1427587829 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | I agree that doing all those arithmetic operations seems an impure way to express your intent. | null | 0 | 1315786643 | False | 0 | c2j5w81 | t3_kbdgw | null | t1_c2j5w81 | t1_c2j3r7h | null | 1427587831 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | Almost the entire industry disagrees with you on this. What are you trying to prove, exactly?
The web is a terrible platform for application development. The APIs are not there, and more importantly the performance is not there, something that is becoming a top concern due to the lack of speed increases in processors and the inevitable breakdown of Moore's Law. HTML and JavaScript are too costly and limited. | null | 0 | 1315786678 | True | 0 | c2j5wdl | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5wdl | t1_c2j5dr3 | null | 1427587832 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | stoph | null | Thanks for sharing this. It made me laugh out loud when I got the joke. Hilarious. I like how there's even a comment about the huge influx of karma from [reddit](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ajpjo/stack_overflow_question_about_the_littleknown/). | null | 0 | 1315786695 | False | 0 | c2j5wfl | t3_kchtc | null | t1_c2j5wfl | t3_kchtc | null | 1427587833 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | iLiekCaeks | null | It sounds like a cheap sensationalist-style head line. You know, like these "Secret Windows features exposed!" articles in consumer computer magazines. | null | 0 | 1315786763 | False | 0 | c2j5wqv | t3_kcew5 | null | t1_c2j5wqv | t1_c2j5gdp | null | 1427587837 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | We need "integer indexes considered harmful"
Using unstructured integer manipulation to access data structures hide underlying intent the same way that gotos do and create errors the same way. People should be using higher level constructs. | null | 0 | 1315786838 | False | 0 | c2j5x2i | t3_kbdgw | null | t1_c2j5x2i | t1_c2j37rc | null | 1427587841 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | LtArson | null | Why is it that when Mozilla did this people were excited (see: WebAPI) but when Google does it people are upset? Answer: Google is a big corporation, thus, anything they do is evil.
Guys, Google did the exact same thing as Mozilla did. They said "Hey, this would make the web a lot better. We're implementing it in our browser and in the process of making it a standard."
Google is implementing this language in their browser and adding a compiler so it works in all the browsers, while also trying to get it standardized. Mozilla's WebAPI works only in their browser.
If anything, Google is MORE in the right here. Anyone who can say that is is a bad thing is clearly just having a knee-jerk reaction to a big company doing something different. | null | 0 | 1315786856 | False | 0 | c2j5x5q | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5x5q | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427587843 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | I disagree with that link, but I don't hate it. So I upvoted it to counter your down vote.
So now you can use logic to refute it. | null | 0 | 1315786929 | False | 0 | c2j5xgr | t3_kbdgw | null | t1_c2j5xgr | t1_c2j18zw | null | 1427587848 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | The web is becoming what you go to when you don't have an app on your phone. The web's killer app was email, but today people don't even use email very much anymore. They communicate through Twitter and Facebook apps. It's as if you're ignoring the reality of what's happening in the industry right now because you just love the web so, so much. | null | 0 | 1315786957 | False | 0 | c2j5xl9 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5xl9 | t1_c2j5am7 | null | 1427587849 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tiftik | null | JavaScript has nothing to do with browsers. There's a standardised web programming interface and JavaScript is just a language that can use it. | null | 0 | 1315786960 | False | 0 | c2j5xlp | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5xlp | t1_c2j4nav | null | 1427587849 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | My disagreement is that both zero and one based indexes led to some mistakes and people should be using higher level constructs which better express intent (list comprehensions etc.). | null | 0 | 1315786983 | False | 0 | c2j5xpb | t3_kbdgw | null | t1_c2j5xpb | t1_c2j22kz | null | 1427587850 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | Yep, and they are more or less useless. Email based bug submission generally requires far more special handling than you can get out of the box. | null | 0 | 1315786984 | False | 0 | c2j5xpl | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j5xpl | t1_c2j4joq | null | 1427587850 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | headmistressaccumula | null | Good Point. Try Amazon . com Huge Savings. Employ this link to save on Anything from Amazon. Save nearly 65% most items NOW http://tinyurl.com/3gg7jwm
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True | BrettLefty | null | For those of us who don't have sticks up our asses and want to know how to use Ajax, how about telling us which is the latest standard and where we can read about it? Some people might even find the information useful and upvote you! | null | 0 | 1315787026 | False | 0 | c2j5xw1 | t3_kc166 | null | t1_c2j5xw1 | t1_c2j1vpd | null | 1427587853 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | ...which is why they are adding DVCS features in the future versions of TFS.
That said I've been using TFS via CodePlex without much trouble. | null | 0 | 1315787051 | False | 0 | c2j5xzf | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j5xzf | t1_c2j5px4 | null | 1427587854 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | In the Pascal I used you could not write a function that worked on arrays in general. That is more broken than any particular indexing scheme. | null | 0 | 1315787067 | False | 0 | c2j5y22 | t3_kbdgw | null | t1_c2j5y22 | t1_c2j0upq | null | 1427587855 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | Javascript sucks. Deal with it. | null | 0 | 1315787102 | False | 0 | c2j5y7g | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5y7g | t1_c2j5j62 | null | 1427587857 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315787115 | False | 0 | c2j5y9i | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5y9i | t1_c2j5m47 | null | 1427587858 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | berlinbrown | null | Well, Microsoft did it for years. | null | 0 | 1315787173 | False | 0 | c2j5yi8 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5yi8 | t3_kc9ai | null | 1428194448 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | gozu | null | Can't be a monopoly: Javascript exists and it dominates. They'll be the underdogs if anything. It'll take a decade at best for it to rival JS. Let's be realistic here. | null | 0 | 1315787184 | False | 0 | c2j5yju | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5yju | t1_c2j4vqx | null | 1428194448 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cha0s | null | Actually there is no such thing as subconscious, only conscious and unconscious. | null | 0 | 1315787187 | False | 0 | c2j5yk9 | t3_k9ud6 | null | t1_c2j5yk9 | t1_c2ild48 | null | 1428194450 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | > Safari and IE are not important.
Safari and IE are the default browsers of the two major platforms in the world, not to mention Mobile Safari. | null | 0 | 1315787187 | False | 0 | c2j5ykc | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5ykc | t1_c2j4yq3 | null | 1428194450 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | trades | null | > there is no way to undo
That would make me think twice before doing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pjrVohm2nE&t=2m21s | null | 0 | 1315787191 | False | 0 | c2j5yl0 | t3_kc6lx | null | t1_c2j5yl0 | t1_c2j3x21 | null | 1427587862 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I dunno -- when HTML5/CSS3 was rolling we saw infinite browser updates: everybody stumbling over each other and fencing themselves away with vendor prefixes (-webkit, -mozilla). I don't know what they could lose by ironing out the details on their own terms. It's even debatable as to whether or not any time would be lost to it -- they seem very industrious about it. | null | 0 | 1315787191 | False | 0 | c2j5yl6 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5yl6 | t1_c2ixei3 | null | 1427587862 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | xiongchiamiov | null | Much less [the actual message](http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t)... | null | 0 | 1315787215 | False | 0 | c2j5yop | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5yop | t1_c2j5clo | null | 1427587863 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | Can you make SVN not allow check-ins unless they are tied to a specific work item? That's a huge thing for me. | null | 0 | 1315787237 | False | 0 | c2j5ys9 | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j5ys9 | t1_c2j3eit | null | 1427587866 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bobindashadows | null | I feel like you're barking up the wrong language here. Python already has tuples, packing and unpacking syntax, which nips one common error case in the bud. It had incredibly comprehensive iteration constructs, which are extensible for user types, another common error case. I can't help but feel most uses of array indexing by decent python programmers aren't a common source of bugs relative to, say, C. | null | 0 | 1315787286 | False | 0 | c2j5z0g | t3_kbdgw | null | t1_c2j5z0g | t1_c2j5x2i | null | 1427587868 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | The Reddit hivemind loves Google because Google's PR department has convinced techies that they're all about openness, even though their main product, the search engine, is as closed source and proprietary as Windows, and they are withholding Android source. Slashdot and Hacker News suffer from the same problem. | null | 0 | 1315787325 | False | 0 | c2j5z5n | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5z5n | t1_c2j3lt4 | null | 1427587870 | -8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | chrome and android are merging in the future | null | 0 | 1315787416 | False | 0 | c2j5zkr | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j5zkr | t1_c2j4u4m | null | 1427587875 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | elder_george | null | I don't know, lots of guys here work via VPN both from different sites (US, China, India) and from home. So, while it's possible that protocol isn't tolerant to bad connection, it's certainly bearable. OTOH, at previous job I used to connect to SVN repo in US from Russia and it was painful as well (mostly because of low speed and not of errors, though). Anyway, YMMV.
Once again, there're many things I dislike in TFS (the whole 'checkout-mark' thing for starters), but it isn't as horrible as OP tries to suggest. | null | 0 | 1315787438 | False | 0 | c2j5zoe | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j5zoe | t1_c2j5px4 | null | 1427587876 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | If Google is so open, where's the public repository for the search engine? How about Android 3.0? | null | 0 | 1315787490 | False | 0 | c2j5zwv | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j5zwv | t1_c2j3vb5 | null | 1427587879 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | celestial_cheesecake | null | Whoops sorry, guess this needs a bit of explanation - developing right now with Android 3.2 using their SpeechRecognizer and RecognizerIntent to do voice commands in an app.
Realized it was running while we were having a normal conversation for a while. When I opened up the DDMS and searched for the response from Googles Speech Recognizer, this is what it thought we said throughout our conversation. | null | 0 | 1315787495 | False | 0 | c2j5zxs | t3_kciap | null | t1_c2j5zxs | t3_kciap | null | 1427587879 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bonch | null | > This is an oxymoron. If it's new, it's not standard.
What the hell? A standard most certainly can be new.
> If it's temporary, it's not a monopoly.
And a monopoly can most certainly be temporary. | null | 0 | 1315787524 | False | 0 | c2j602g | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j602g | t1_c2j4xo7 | null | 1427587881 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315787525 | False | 0 | c2j602j | t3_k0dpk | null | t1_c2j602j | t3_k0dpk | null | 1427587881 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | > TFVC is a centralized-server model that requires constant and active communication between a client (read: developer) machine and the server. If, for example, the network goes down for 1 hour, development grinds to a halt. The reason here is that TFS will mark all files as read-only on the filesystem until you have asked the server to check them out for you. If you cannot communicate to the server, you cannot checkout the files and you cannot edit them [9].
What a retard. All you have to do is switch to off-line mode and clear the read-only attribute. Sure its annoying, but it doesn't prevent you from doing your job. | null | 0 | 1315787538 | False | 0 | c2j604h | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j604h | t3_kc5di | null | 1427587891 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Walletau | null | The second I read something sensational, I think "OH! Better click on the comments and read why that is wrong." | null | 0 | 1315787546 | False | 0 | c2j605s | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j605s | t1_c2j5clo | null | 1427587891 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | crotchpoozie | null | Nothing in your statement changes that monopolies do not have to satisfy some minimum lifespan. | null | 0 | 1315787604 | False | 0 | c2j60dx | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j60dx | t1_c2j5pcn | null | 1427587885 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | xiongchiamiov | null | They do in fact lose money - the money they could be making if those non-Chrome users had the same better experience. | null | 0 | 1315787696 | False | 0 | c2j60sd | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j60sd | t1_c2j552d | null | 1427587890 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | elder_george | null | Using some of alternatives for something non-trivial isn't always simple as well.
At my previous job we used to have (IIRC) two employers who worked on adapting Jira to our workprocess. | null | 0 | 1315787784 | False | 0 | c2j615q | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j615q | t1_c2j4jsn | null | 1427587895 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | xiongchiamiov | null | > what credentials do you possess which even qualify you to have an opinion on this subject?
The ones where he uses IE. | null | 0 | 1315787885 | False | 0 | c2j61kf | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j61kf | t1_c2j5k7w | null | 1427587900 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Isvara | null | Eh, sure, but why replace it with another language? They should replace it with whatever bytecode V8 uses, then people could use whatever language they wanted and just serve up the bytecode for the browser to use. Given that they wrote V8, that would still give them a head start (although I suspect that that is not to the point; rather, as someone else suggested, it's to ultimately reduce the cost of maintaining their other projects). | null | 0 | 1315788084 | False | 0 | c2j62f5 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j62f5 | t1_c2j4jws | null | 1427587917 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | happyscrappy | null | I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about Brendan Eich. | null | 0 | 1315788180 | False | 0 | c2j62t9 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j62t9 | t1_c2j5nk8 | null | 1427587922 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | elder_george | null | I got driver licenses in both Russia (post-Soviet, but it didn't changed much) and US and I can tell you there's no much difference in application procedure.
</nitpick>
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True | theresistor | null | LLVM bytecode is not inherently platform agnostic. PNaCL has to be very careful to generate bytecode that is portable. | null | 0 | 1315788261 | False | 0 | c2j6357 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6357 | t1_c2j5m47 | null | 1427587925 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | > TFVC wants you to do everything inside of Visual Studio [10]. When you add a file, it is best to add the file through Visual Studio's contextual menus in your solution explorer. TFS will recognize that you are adding a file and track that file for you. This is great until you need to start adding some files outside of Visual Studio. In my experience, this is usually peripheral code like batch automation scripts, build tools, XML configuration files, etc. Sometimes you use Notepad++ because its more convenient--but then you get yourself into trouble because you try to check in but TFS does not recognize the new file or that the file is edited. In that case, you need to navigate to the Source Control Explorer, add or check out the file using its contextual menus.
Or you can use the Windows Shell just like you would use TortoiseSVN.
Or you can use the command line just like you would use git.
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