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True | blueeit | null | I thought Emacs was developed on a DEC system, not a Symbolics system. I think of the [vt100](http://vt100.net/docs/vt100-ug/figure3-2.html) as the canonical DEC keyboard.
In any case, I don't see how the Space Cadet keyboard layout makes typing C-x any easier. I looks as though I would still have to move my hand from the home position. | null | 0 | 1315793713 | False | 0 | c2j6rsp | t3_kbz68 | null | t1_c2j6rsp | t1_c2j66dl | null | 1427588250 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kidjan | null | I'm fine with calling it "bearable," having done it for five years. But would I prefer SVN remotely? You bet your ass.
And I agree, TFS isn't even remotely as bad as the OP suggests (some of his points are simply wrong and/or uninformed, despite the citations and scholarly tone), but I find TFS to really be focused around having all your developers in the same building. Which is increasingly not the case. | null | 0 | 1315793818 | False | 0 | c2j6sb8 | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j6sb8 | t1_c2j5zoe | null | 1427588252 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kidjan | null | Disagree, but since it's your opinion I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. | null | 0 | 1315793896 | False | 0 | c2j6sq0 | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j6sq0 | t1_c2j66ao | null | 1427588256 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | twillis1973 | null | eh I don't know, at first thought that it did whoop the shit out of vss, but after a while you could just kind of see the vss roots peeking through. Like checking out before editing, and (i think) associating it with a work item. It may have been how that place had it setup, but it just seemed really unproductive. | null | 0 | 1315793939 | False | 0 | c2j6sxb | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j6sxb | t1_c2j5p5z | null | 1427588259 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kidjan | null | Yeah, ironically it works fine for open source stuff. But it gets messy fast when you start to factor in corporate security policies, domain-level authentication and VPNs. | null | 0 | 1315793971 | False | 0 | c2j6t2y | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j6t2y | t1_c2j5xzf | null | 1428194437 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | sunra | null | What am I supposed to be looking at here? | null | 0 | 1315794032 | False | 0 | c2j6tdu | t3_kck91 | null | t1_c2j6tdu | t3_kck91 | null | 1427588267 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Jedakiah | null | > Staying insecure and vulnerable to software exploits is always an option.
How would you be invulnerable to software exploits with your idea?
I'm a little confused. How would a USB with "hardware crypting" prevent the OS from accessing your private key? | null | 0 | 1315794049 | False | 0 | c2j6tgn | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6tgn | t1_c2j6l55 | null | 1427588279 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | harimwakairi | null | Not at all like Microsoft did. They took open standards, added their own Microsoft-specific extensions, then refused to tell anyone what they'd done. They kept their source and changes completely secret, which meant that that what had been a open, usable standard became a Microsoft-only standard for which competitors couldn't produce software.
That's not what Google's doing. They may have some problems with openness (q.v. Android source), but they are nowhere near the shenanigans that Microsoft perpetrated. | null | 0 | 1315794058 | False | 0 | c2j6ti8 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j6ti8 | t1_c2j3lt4 | null | 1427588279 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | stacks85 | null | if thats the case, they need smaller work items. | null | 0 | 1315794116 | False | 0 | c2j6tt6 | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j6tt6 | t1_c2j6c9y | null | 1427588274 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | probetrigram | null | Superb Point. Try Amazon online Huge Savings. Take advantage of this link to save on electronics Amazon. Save as much 75% most items NOW http://tinyurl.com/3gg7jwm
| null | 0 | 1315794166 | False | 0 | c2j6u1x | t3_k5f5h | null | t1_c2j6u1x | t3_k5f5h | null | 1427588286 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | alekseykorzun | null | How in the world is preventing installation of software comparing to asking developers YOU PAY TO to try and focus more developing for an OPEN SOURCE browser on the COMPANY TIME?
You are a special kind of idiot. | null | 0 | 1315794274 | False | 0 | c2j6ukn | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6ukn | t1_c2j5c8g | null | 1427588287 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | GoGoGadge7 | null | You should be using Chrome anyway. Shhhhh. | null | 0 | 1315794310 | False | 0 | c2j6uq9 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6uq9 | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427588289 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | zmeefy | null | I had seen this before but how it was all played out at SO made it worth it, good laugh. | null | 0 | 1315794332 | False | 0 | c2j6uub | t3_kchtc | null | t1_c2j6uub | t3_kchtc | null | 1427588290 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | alekseykorzun | null | Question, did microsoft release IE for android phone? No.
Question, did Opera release an Android browser? Yes. Did they allow it? Yes.
Anything else you want to dream about and pretend you will know the outcome? | null | 0 | 1315794357 | False | 0 | c2j6uyw | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6uyw | t1_c2j6kx7 | null | 1427588291 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | throwaway-o | null | That's outright false. It uses HTTP over SSL (port 443). I just verified that using tcpdump. | null | 0 | 1315794482 | False | 0 | c2j6vm3 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j6vm3 | t1_c2j5fdh | null | 1427588298 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | stacks85 | null | If you waited 3 minutes, you wouldn't have to pull your foot out of your mouth now. | null | 0 | 1315794520 | False | 0 | c2j6vs6 | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j6vs6 | t1_c2j6ih0 | null | 1427588300 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | alekseykorzun | null | I love internet. Where idiots can comment blindly and pretend they know what they are talking about.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.opera.browser&hl=en
What is that?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.skyfire.browser&feature=search_result
What is that?
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox&feature=search_result
What is that?
https://market.android.com/search?q=browser&so=1&c=apps
What is all that?
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True | averyv | null | Not at all. Just, not their users. | null | 0 | 1315794547 | False | 0 | c2j6vx8 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j6vx8 | t1_c2j6qc3 | null | 1427588300 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Darkmoth | null | > You can dismiss these as unimportant
No, I'm really not, and I hope I haven't given that impression. Obviously I like my paradigm, but functional programming is new to me and blending functional and OOP even more so. I really did want to hear your objections, if only so I can anticipate pitfalls in the future.
Truth be told, immutable objects *are* awkward - even F# makes arrays mutable by default. If I seem relatively comfortable with my mishmash it's because my first cut at this wasn't OOP at all - just functions piled upon functions. It was awful, especially since F# doesn't allow forward references. There would have been no way I could have scaled it to the size I need with that model. If only from an organizational standpoint, the OO version is just much much cleaner.
I do think I'm going to back off the "pure functional" bit, and toss some mutable state in there where it makes sense. I have no problem copying small objects, and I actually like the pressure to make classes small, but I'm not going to treat immutability as a suicide pact.
Anyway, I appreciate the conversation, it has certainly made me rethink some things which will improve my code. | null | 0 | 1315794619 | False | 0 | c2j6waj | t3_k56t1 | null | t1_c2j6waj | t1_c2j6bbq | null | 1427588304 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | Why? It isn't like you have to create a new work item for each change. And it is easier to check a box than to type out something for the change log. | null | 0 | 1315794721 | False | 0 | c2j6wqz | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j6wqz | t1_c2j6c9y | null | 1427588311 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315794789 | False | 0 | c2j6x37 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6x37 | t1_c2j4ybr | null | 1427588314 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cdsmith | null | That's at best very loosely related. Google previously maintained an extension to Firefox and IE, *not* a web site using open web standards. As the web browser market became even more fragmented (Safari, Opera, Mobile Safari, Android Browser...) and the pace of development picked up (Firefox is now on version 6, after it took them years to reach 3), they realized it was no longer feasible for them to maintain a bunch of browser plugins for other people's web browsers. The HTML and JavaScript in gmail and calendars still works as well as Google can make it work, across a large number of browsers. The change wasn't to do with HTML, JavaScript, or other open web standards that those browsers implement, which are still used as well as they can be. It was with code written to browser-specific internal APIs. | null | 0 | 1315794884 | False | 0 | c2j6xk0 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6xk0 | t1_c2j63x5 | null | 1427588319 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | so i guess they changed it. | null | 0 | 1315795158 | False | 0 | c2j6ysl | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6ysl | t1_c2j6vu7 | null | 1427588339 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Note: You normally wouldn't ever do this in Ruby. Instead:
require 'csv'
rows = CSV.read('data.csv') | null | 0 | 1315795194 | False | 0 | c2j6yy3 | t3_ka4h8 | null | t1_c2j6yy3 | t1_c2ios3a | null | 1427588340 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315795327 | False | 0 | c2j6zlm | t3_kc166 | null | t1_c2j6zlm | t1_c2j5xw1 | null | 1427588346 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | it is the same thing. the end result is the software does not function. and what does open source have to do with competition again? absolutely nothing... | null | 0 | 1315795371 | False | 0 | c2j6zsy | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j6zsy | t1_c2j6ukn | null | 1427588349 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | LeanIntoIt | null | Not yet. | null | 0 | 1315795421 | False | 0 | c2j701s | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j701s | t1_c2j6psq | null | 1427588351 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | GhostalMedia | null | Scumbag Google, uses Webkit, tags as Crome Only | null | 0 | 1315795431 | False | 0 | c2j703s | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j703s | t1_c2j4qqv | null | 1427588352 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | ofcourse transform, etc are standards, but each browsers implements them in their own, in effect, non-standardized way.... | null | 0 | 1315795451 | False | 0 | c2j707a | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j707a | t1_c2j6qwk | null | 1427588360 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | CarolusMagnus | null | > they realized it was no longer feasible for them to maintain a bunch of browser plugins for other people's web browsers
They still maintain them if it is not against their strategic interest - see the various GoogleToolbar flavours.
> It was with code written to browser-specific internal APIs.
Yes, so they discontinued the specific code written for the browsers that 90% of the target audience use, and replaced it with code that works only on their niche product to push that product. ActiveX all over again. | null | 0 | 1315795524 | False | 0 | c2j70jo | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j70jo | t1_c2j6xk0 | null | 1427588359 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | you fail. that is all. dude, the fact is IE9 supports many standards that gecko/webkit DONT.. and the same is true in reverse... there is no browser that is more standards compliant than the rest. in FACT the new ie10 has scored the HIGHEST figure in html5 compatibility of ALL browsers.. | null | 0 | 1315795541 | False | 0 | c2j70mg | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j70mg | t1_c2j6prw | null | 1427588359 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | themadprofessor | null | As soon as Google releases the source for their search engine, it becomes unusable as thousands upon thousands of spammers use that info to rank better.
I am not a Google fanboy , but they do contribute a lot to open source. | null | 0 | 1315795637 | False | 0 | c2j713b | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j713b | t1_c2j5z5n | null | 1427588366 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315795679 | False | 0 | c2j71am | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j71am | t1_c2j3rna | null | 1427588368 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1315795797 | False | 0 | c2j71vh | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j71vh | t1_c2j5ii1 | null | 1427588376 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | myztry | null | You send in a stream to be encrypted. The key returns the encrypted data without ever revealing the private key. | null | 0 | 1315795837 | False | 0 | c2j7232 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7232 | t1_c2j6tgn | null | 1427588379 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | LtArson | null | We weren't talking about IE9. IE9 is great. You said everything past IE6. IE8 was worse for standards support than Firefox 3.0, which came out a year earlier. | null | 0 | 1315795848 | False | 0 | c2j7256 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7256 | t1_c2j70mg | null | 1427588379 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MaxGene | null | A single centralized server is a Git compatible workflow. Other developers who need to get around it can do so on a case-by-case basis without altering things for everyone else, though. | null | 0 | 1315795929 | False | 0 | c2j72ip | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j72ip | t1_c2j4a23 | null | 1427588384 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Darkmoth | null | So true. At one shop we were using CA Harvest, which is ultra-shitty...but the decision was made many many layers above my head. The thought of flying to HQ and getting in the CIO's face about it just hilarious.
It's hard to understand how a big company works until you're actually in one. | null | 0 | 1315795947 | False | 0 | c2j72ky | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j72ky | t1_c2j3mta | null | 1427588385 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | zerothehero | null | Yes, but it's Lua byte code. You wouldn't be able implement JavaScript (which is VERY similar to Lua) efficiently on Lua byte code. There are all sorts of tiny differences like how the == operator behaves, etc.
Same thing with Python or Ruby byte code, etc. -- they are really only useful for implementing that particular language. Something like CLR would I guess be interesting but half of the interesting thing about different languages is their runtime, not just syntactic differences. | null | 0 | 1315796032 | False | 0 | c2j7312 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7312 | t1_c2j5tz9 | null | 1427588391 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | i've done a little more than use: developed extension and add-ons, helpers, reported bugs, developed for every version, helped other on irc to debug their issues, secured in corporate environment, managed all aspects and policies related to IE pretty much.
but i suppose you can consider being an end-user a qualification :\
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True | daengbo | null | While we're 'druthering, I'd rather see XMPP implemented in the browser, allowing me to easily authorize to websites, social networks based on XMPP, chat buddies, or anything else. The way XMPP checks my identity could be public key or whatever. | null | 0 | 1315796232 | False | 0 | c2j740r | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j740r | t1_c2j4k7z | null | 1427588405 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | dnew | null | >I haven't given that impression.
You haven't, but others have. I think if you're not trying to model "real world", then having "functional objects" is quite conceptually reasonable. I.e., if OOD is just a software organization method, and "object" is unrelated in your software to the actual real-world meaning of "object", that's cool. It's just not what the people who invented OOP meant by "object".
Take a look at this guy. He has lots of stuff about functional programming and where it's good and bad. I think he even describes some video games he wrote in a functional language/style/etc. (Or describes some problems he's had, or something. Something about ants in a game. :-) http://prog21.dadgum.com/archives.html He writes interesting stuff.
Thanks for talking! | null | 0 | 1315796343 | False | 0 | c2j74kl | t3_k56t1 | null | t1_c2j74kl | t1_c2j6waj | null | 1427588412 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | This is pretty terrible. | null | 0 | 1315796349 | False | 0 | c2j74la | t3_kcnuw | null | t1_c2j74la | t3_kcnuw | null | 1427588412 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | we're not talking about any one version... versions are all over the place, some support stuff, others dont. the fact remains, webkit/gecko are not MORE standards compliant, they just support a 'different' set of standards... also, many standards written by W3C are completley vague and the actual implementation across browsers is up to the devs, so you find really weird behaviour with stuff like anchors and tables for example...
the fact that gecko/webkit do many things alike doesn not mean that is the correct implementation of the standard. i have found at least 3 cases where the IE impl. is correct. the only reason the first 2 do it alike is bcs they were based on open source and copied many ideas. | null | 0 | 1315796401 | False | 0 | c2j74ua | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j74ua | t1_c2j7256 | null | 1427588414 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | That's a euphemism. If they went around saying "hey! let's be really evil and do X" people might get suspicious. | null | 0 | 1315796431 | False | 0 | c2j74zq | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j74zq | t1_c2j4z1w | null | 1427588422 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | generic_0 | null | Complete with 15 tiny programming exercises every week. And you have to write verbose explanations for each exercise.
Having worked as a CS tutor, I am not surprised that so many people despise programming because dumbass professors like to teach it like calculus. It's an inherently creative task, so encouraging creativity rather than relying on lazy exercise focused drilling is what is needed. | null | 0 | 1315796482 | False | 0 | c2j756v | t3_kcii9 | null | t1_c2j756v | t1_c2j6b5k | null | 1427588419 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pnettle | null | Can't be a monopoly because inventing a new language or feature has nothing to do with business monopolies. People use that word with a negative connotation because of business monopolies, so using in this case is really inappropriate. | null | 0 | 1315796544 | False | 0 | c2j75gs | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j75gs | t1_c2j5yju | null | 1427588422 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pnettle | null | Given that they're being sued by lots of people over android patents I think they realized that giving out the source ain't so fuckin smart. It makes it too easy to find patents they are violating.
Sounds good in theory, in reality in the patent happy america is NOT a good idea to give out the source. | null | 0 | 1315796628 | False | 0 | c2j75v8 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j75v8 | t1_c2j6psq | null | 1427588428 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | LtArson | null | What are you talking about? You specifically said that you have had no issues since IE6, and I said that IE6-IE8 don't support a lot of core web standards (in IE6's case, because the browser is older than those standards, in IE8's case, because Microsoft was negligent).
I'm not talking about implementation here. I've read enough of the actual standards to know that they leave implementation up to the browser, but the fact remains that IE8 didn't just implement a lot of stuff differently, it just didn't implement it at all. | null | 0 | 1315796800 | False | 0 | c2j76oz | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j76oz | t1_c2j74ua | null | 1427588438 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | epic_awesome | null | What about optional fields and limits, etc?
I know feature creep but still.. | null | 0 | 1315797079 | False | 0 | c2j780p | t3_k8jbq | null | t1_c2j780p | t1_c2iee8b | null | 1427588457 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rizla7 | null | i think you're missing the point. EVERY browser has standards issues. they are minor.
as a side note: this whole battle for standards and the amount of browsers versions out now: how has this contributed to standards? it hasn't in any way. we now have MORE browsers, with MORE problems to worry about, and none of them do things in the same way. and chrome STARTED this whole problem. | null | 0 | 1315797125 | False | 0 | c2j7889 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7889 | t1_c2j76oz | null | 1427588459 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jackthecoiner | null | HTML 5 | null | 0 | 1315797173 | False | 0 | c2j78gi | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j78gi | t1_c2j6er9 | null | 1427588461 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | stravant | null | I wan't suggesting Lua be used at all, just that a similar mechanic be used, of allowing the code in the language itself to target the VM directly through a similar interface to the "eval" function of the language.
I don't know how well that would actually work in other languages. In Lua it works well because of the chunk-based loading of code. | null | 0 | 1315797256 | False | 0 | c2j78u0 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j78u0 | t1_c2j7312 | null | 1427588467 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | LtArson | null | Standards "issues" are minor. When you just don't implement something, that's not minor.
Example: IE8 has no support for rgba values, border radius, or box shadows. Those are all pretty major parts of modern web development. They're used to make apps that do more than just convey information, but instead are pleasing to the eye.
If you have a website that uses any of those elements of the CSS3 standard, it will more likely than not be completely unusable in IE8.
I don't understand how you can disagree with the frustration things like these bring to web developers unless you've never done web development before. | null | 0 | 1315797283 | False | 0 | c2j78yr | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j78yr | t1_c2j7889 | null | 1427588469 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | prototrout | null | I wasn't able to find any implementations. There's a [partial one](http://groups.google.com/group/frp-discuss/browse_thread/thread/4d98182da915056) by the author though. | null | 0 | 1315797294 | False | 0 | c2j790r | t3_kc6bw | null | t1_c2j790r | t1_c2j34ov | null | 1427588470 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | carillon | null | No, I stand by what I said about the API, especially after looking at that code. That's why MS had to buy the TFS Explorer code - they couldn't reverse engineer their own API. | null | 0 | 1315797305 | False | 0 | c2j7933 | t3_kc5di | null | t1_c2j7933 | t1_c2j6vs6 | null | 1427588470 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Amablue | null | It's consistent with how we count months and days. It's a count, not a distance. Year 1 is the first year of the common era (AD) and year BC 1 is the first year before the common era. BC was not meant to be used as a replacement for 'negative' years. | null | 0 | 1315797445 | False | 0 | c2j79qu | t3_kbdgw | null | t1_c2j79qu | t1_c2j1bjm | null | 1427588479 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | justguessmyusername | null | Gotta love Google for slowly creeping into a bad place. | null | 0 | 1315797592 | False | 0 | c2j7afj | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7afj | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427588492 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kryptobs2000 | null | That's because of the details you guys seem to be missing. The web could greatly benefit from replacing javascript. If not google who is making it an open standard who or what do you propose do it? | null | 0 | 1315797700 | False | 0 | c2j7axz | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7axz | t1_c2j689d | null | 1427588498 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | lunarbase | null | Google is using the same techniques that Microsoft used for years. Techniques that put Microsoft on the top of the world but the same techniques fired back with time. The problem with google is that they use the "for the sake of open standards" bullshit to create proprietary stuff and then make their sites work better with Chrome only, what is a kind of creating proprietary stuff, as you are using a combination of two open things to make it proprietary.
I see this Dash as a dead horse. It is going nowhere. Nobody needs another programming language for the web.
Google is totally lost. They are firing in all directions trying to hit something, buying companies for more than they value, using proxies to fight a war with Apple and all kind of crap. Where is the don't be evil stuff now? | null | 0 | 1315797737 | False | 0 | c2j7b4m | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7b4m | t1_c2ivucx | null | 1427588501 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | alekseykorzun | null | Changed what? They had browsers for YEARS in the market. | null | 0 | 1315797978 | False | 0 | c2j7c90 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7c90 | t1_c2j6ysl | null | 1427588525 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | twotime | null | You are kidding, right?
Openness is not all-or-nothing. Has never been, will never be.
Openness is always on a scale and on that scale Google is far closer to being open than Microsoft. | null | 0 | 1315798122 | False | 0 | c2j7czh | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7czh | t1_c2j5zwv | null | 1427588543 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MaxGene | null | Yes, you may use it with GPL code. | null | 0 | 1315798312 | False | 0 | c2j7dwa | t3_kbbbu | null | t1_c2j7dwa | t1_c2j014q | null | 1427588543 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | banuday | null | Is that really a bug though?
The [get](http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/Map.html#get\(java.lang.Object\)) method contract specifies that the parameter to get is `equals` to the key, and the `equals` method takes `Object` as a parameter. It is possible for `equals` to evaluate `true` for values not strictly of the same type.
This does not violate the type safety of the container, because the key parameter to the [put](http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/util/Map.html#put\(K, V\)) is constrained to the generic type. | null | 0 | 1315798343 | False | 0 | c2j7e1r | t3_kb1gc | null | t1_c2j7e1r | t1_c2j3hv3 | null | 1427588545 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | foreveronloan | null | Phrases like "I believe" and "I bet it's at least XX" have no place in a discussion where the numbers can simply be looked up.
[Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Wikimedia_.28April_2009_to_present.29) puts Firefox at 24.06% in August 2011, and Chrome at 18.22% for the same period. | null | 0 | 1315798455 | False | 0 | c2j7ejj | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7ejj | t1_c2j6my8 | null | 1427588550 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Ventajou | null | Not sure what you mean by GCC language. Last I heard, GCC stands for GNU C Compiler, is it actually more of a framework that supports many languages? I'm skeptical there.
In any case, "native" code is not really a good idea for the web since it basically negates the multi platform nature of it, where the physical architecture does not matter. Unless you mean that the source gets sent over the wire and then compiled on the fly but that's equivalent to current Javascript.
I personally would rather be using c# for client side work simply because I've got a lot of experience with it, and I'm sure others would rather use python, perl or whatnot. | null | 0 | 1315798886 | False | 0 | c2j7gi6 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7gi6 | t1_c2j4uo5 | null | 1427588571 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | drysart | null | Microsoft doesn't have to support it. Internet Explorer has always supported the use of all scripting engines that are available on the system that implement the documented COM Windows Scripting Host interfaces.
All Google needs to do is build a WSH wrapper for Dash and prompt IE users to install it. | null | 0 | 1315798903 | False | 0 | c2j7gkq | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7gkq | t1_c2j4kpi | null | 1427588571 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I develop web applications.
I just logged into gmail in IE7. Worked fine.
Maybe there have been bugs that affect IE from time to time but they've obviously been fixed. They dropped support for IE6 but that's hardly conclusive, since even Microsoft has EOL'd IE6. | null | 0 | 1315798950 | False | 0 | c2j7gso | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7gso | t1_c2j5k7w | null | 1427588572 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | EricTboneJackson | null | Pretty nasty example of quote mining. The full text is not the least bit nefarious. | null | 0 | 1315798951 | False | 0 | c2j7gst | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7gst | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427588572 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Rhomboid | null | Yeah. If you have to completely mangle the code samples to make them fit in your infographic format, then you're pretty much wasting your time.
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True | benihana | null | Dude. I sharpened my pitchfork and everything. | null | 0 | 1315799052 | False | 0 | c2j7h9m | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7h9m | t1_c2j5ghp | null | 1427588579 | 39 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | reply | null | Google is basically re-creating the AOL model. They have their own mail, browser, DNS, and basically an entire copy of the internet. It's conceivable to use the internet and never even leave Google's network. | null | 0 | 1315799145 | False | 0 | c2j7hq9 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7hq9 | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427588595 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MatrixFrog | null | If not a "bug" per se, I would at least call it a misleading design decision. I think it would also make sense if `equals` only worked for objects of the same type, but I'm not sure quite how that would work. | null | 0 | 1315799171 | False | 0 | c2j7huq | t3_kb1gc | null | t1_c2j7huq | t1_c2j7e1r | null | 1427588586 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Ventajou | null | You have a point about ease of access. At the same time, it's never been easier to start programming. You basically get the same tools that professionals use and they're all free no matter the platform.
I must be a bit of a snob to forget that some people have learned to program with JS. | null | 0 | 1315799178 | False | 0 | c2j7hw2 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7hw2 | t1_c2j5d2r | null | 1427588586 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | yggdrasiliv | null | What second platform does DirectX run on? | null | 0 | 1315799206 | False | 0 | c2j7i1b | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7i1b | t1_c2j5rrt | null | 1427588589 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ElSherberto | null | According to the header on the GCC website itself, GCC stands for [**G**NU **C**ompiler **C**ollection](http://gcc.gnu.org/).
What I mean by native code is that Native Client creates an x86 VM (and emulator or non-x86 platforms) that code can be run in natively. It does this to be platform agnostic and to sandbox executed code to protected the host system from anything run within it. | null | 0 | 1315799326 | False | 0 | c2j7ill | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7ill | t1_c2j7gi6 | null | 1427588596 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | drysart | null | Probably since the very first release of ActiveX when they documented how to create a control host site.
Firefox used to have ActiveX support built in, whitelisted so that it would only show embedded Windows Media Player controls. (I believe they've removed it since Microsoft now provides their own WMP plugin for Firefox.) | null | 0 | 1315799362 | False | 0 | c2j7ire | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7ire | t1_c2j4ri8 | null | 1427588597 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | glados_v2 | null | I thought the standard is open, so can't you make your own browser? | null | 0 | 1315799370 | False | 0 | c2j7isl | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7isl | t1_c2j6lyf | null | 1427588597 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | skwisgaar_explains | null | ...Maybe because Google, no matter how much you tries to hates them, really does do more for open source than any other company whats ams ostensibly about proprietary softwares? Google ams not owes us anythings. They coulds just claims to do open source, like Microsoft or Apple, and not really supports it. And people complains when they push things to Chrome, what ams close base on open source Chromium?
Dildos don't seem to understands that Google ams doing really what ams close to an ideal job with makes money, but still "do no evil." You woulds be hard press to find another company what ams as good, and you ams a dildo for your rhetorical bullshits whats ams not adds to the discussion. | null | 0 | 1315799576 | False | 0 | c2j7jt7 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7jt7 | t1_c2j67zk | null | 1427588610 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | eurleif | null | GCC stands for GNU Compiler Collection. It's not just C. | null | 0 | 1315799687 | False | 0 | c2j7kdh | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7kdh | t1_c2j7gi6 | null | 1427588618 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | And now it's on Reddit... This question is becoming quite the rep factory. – Brian Campbell Dec 30 '09 at 5:56
A bit late to the party on this one. | null | 0 | 1315799747 | False | 0 | c2j7kok | t3_kchtc | null | t1_c2j7kok | t3_kchtc | null | 1427588622 | 21 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | xiongchiamiov | null | Well, no, my point is that it's Java-specific and proggit is for general programming stuff. /r/java is for Java-specific stuff.
Now, most of the time, I don't really care; I only brought it up because I had to go to the end of the article to find out that it was, in fact, something I didn't care about. If Java was in the title, I could just [hide] and continue on. | null | 0 | 1315799751 | False | 0 | c2j7kp2 | t3_kb1gc | null | t1_c2j7kp2 | t1_c2j3v10 | null | 1427588622 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | zengr | null | Without running findnbugs and removing all the warning, we cannot rollout our code to prod! It's really an awesome tool! | null | 0 | 1315799835 | False | 0 | c2j7l3f | t3_kb1gc | null | t1_c2j7l3f | t1_c2iudv3 | null | 1427588627 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | TheoreticalFunk | null | Strongly encourage from Google != Strongly encourage from Microsoft | null | 0 | 1315799967 | False | 0 | c2j7lq7 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7lq7 | t3_kc9ai | null | 1427588636 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cdsmith | null | Right... so it's one thing to ask that Google develop to open web standards so that their stuff can work across multiple browsers. That's understandable, and I'd expect them to do that except when some aspect of the project makes it specific to Chrome anyway... but it's quite another to demand that they build and maintain browser-specific extensions when there are no widely implemented web standards that can provide that functionality instead. We're definitely way outside of the reasonable range of complaining about not supporting internet standards. | null | 0 | 1315800108 | False | 0 | c2j7mf6 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7mf6 | t1_c2j70jo | null | 1427588644 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | hegemon_of_the_mind | null | Huh. An IE fanboy. Now I've seen everything. What a waste of talent. | null | 0 | 1315800203 | False | 0 | c2j7mvg | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7mvg | t1_c2j7889 | null | 1427588651 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pwnsauce | null | XBOX presumably? | null | 0 | 1315800410 | False | 0 | c2j7nu9 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7nu9 | t1_c2j7i1b | null | 1427588664 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cdsmith | null | To the extent that Google is trying to avoid locking big parts of the internet behind platform-specific interfaces, I'm 100% with them regardless of their profit motives. Especially if those platform-specific interfaces are targeted first at iOS. | null | 0 | 1315800441 | True | 0 | c2j7nz1 | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7nz1 | t1_c2j5rxg | null | 1427588665 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | yggdrasiliv | null | I don't think that really counts. [IMO] | null | 0 | 1315800526 | False | 0 | c2j7od7 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7od7 | t1_c2j7nu9 | null | 1427588669 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cdsmith | null | I have an Android tablet and smart phone and I love them; but if you are seriously saying you can stand to write multiple paragraphs on a smart phone, I'm not sure I will ever understand you or others with your skills... | null | 0 | 1315800542 | False | 0 | c2j7ofj | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7ofj | t1_c2j5g1j | null | 1427588671 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cl3ft | null | How's paranoia working out for you? | null | 0 | 1315800576 | False | 0 | c2j7ols | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7ols | t1_c2j74zq | null | 1427588674 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | glados_v2 | null | iPhone is not a standard.
Btw, safari in iOS 5 scores very high in HTML 5 tests. | null | 0 | 1315800680 | False | 0 | c2j7p2y | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7p2y | t1_c2j6dc2 | null | 1427588680 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Greydmiyu | null | It does. Point in fact, the X in XBox stands for [DirectX](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX).
*"When Microsoft later set out to develop a gaming console, the X was used as the basis of the name Xbox to indicate that the console was based on DirectX technology."*
*"Direct3D (the 3D graphics API within DirectX) is widely used in the development of video games for Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Xbox, and Microsoft Xbox 360."*
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True | banuday | null | Depends on what is strictly necessary to achieve your goal. If type safety is the goal, the `put` method must to be secured. But is the type safety of the container sacrificed by making `get` have a looser contract?
As far as equals is concerned, I think the [contract](http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/api/java/lang/Object.html#equals\(java.lang.Object\)) makes sense - as long as it is reflexive, symmetric, transitive and consistent in all combinations, then there is no reason to constrain `equals` to the same type. It just so happens it is easier to implement `equals` when you constrain to the same type. For example, `Double.valueOf(0.0).equals(Integer.valueOf(0))` *could* be `true`, because they are different representations of the same value. | null | 0 | 1315800801 | True | 0 | c2j7plt | t3_kb1gc | null | t1_c2j7plt | t1_c2j7huq | null | 1428194423 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | thcobbs | null | How about a community development effort ala Linux.
Not developed for commercial purpose but theoretical knowlege. | null | 0 | 1315800903 | False | 0 | c2j7q0k | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7q0k | t1_c2j7axz | null | 1427588692 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bambin0 | null | Do you mean that anyone who ever proposes a new standard is doing something wrong? If not, how does one encourage a new standard without offering it and then implementing it and opening it for everyone else? | null | 0 | 1315800908 | False | 0 | c2j7q14 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7q14 | t1_c2j53db | null | 1427588692 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | comex | null | I think it's partly that the UI of web apps tends to be *shockingly, atrociously* poor, especially on mobile devices, especially when it comes to performance. And I don't even know why-- why the Google Maps webapp is almost unusable on the iPhone, why Gmail is fairly slow and glitchy, even though Google is widely acknowledged as having amazing JavaScript programmers. I know from some experience it's possible to build a performant webapp: I guess it just takes a hugely disproportionate amount of effort, especially compared to native apps, and programmers have hubris and think that releasing a slow webapp is Good Enough.
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True | [deleted] | null | it doesn't matter if the source is open or closed | null | 0 | 1315801140 | False | 0 | c2j7r09 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7r09 | t1_c2j75v8 | null | 1427588708 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | >Nobody needs another programming language for the web.
Yeah...because we have achieved perfection already and should never do anything new ever again. | null | 0 | 1315801158 | False | 0 | c2j7r32 | t3_kawp5 | null | t1_c2j7r32 | t1_c2j7b4m | null | 1427588718 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cdsmith | null | 1. Google doesn't like H.264 because of very real patent concerns. If you disagree with them or their tactics there, fine... but they are on the side of trying to build *more* open standards for web-based video, not less.
2. I'd never heard of SPDY, but I looked it up, and it is clearly and obviously labeled as an *experiment* with a new protocol. It also looks technically very cool, so I hope it gets to the point where they are happy with it as a stable protocol and *do* propose it as a standard eventually.
3. Browser plugins are not web standards, so this one is a bit silly. And Native Client... seriously, what web standard do you think *that* is replacing? I don't know that there's anything even remotely like it as an open standard.
I think in the end, this comes down to people not liking Google's strategy of developing complete products *before* they release things... that doesn't make them opposed to open standards; it just makes them opposed to turning over partially finished or experimental software to standards organizations for basic design work. Standards bodies are free to look at their work and either adopt it, ignore it, or use some ideas but toss out the implementation and write their own alternatives. If that's a legitimate standard body like the W3C, they can then pretty much count on Google's support for what they come up with. If you have an example of an open and free standard that Google is *not* implementing and getting behind, please share. | null | 0 | 1315801182 | False | 0 | c2j7r6u | t3_kc9ai | null | t1_c2j7r6u | t1_c2j67v2 | null | 1427588710 | 34 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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