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8ebe6c14-48ea-416f-acaa-2c7f4a274a4b	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	I'm broken...? It seems that every time I try to go to this meetup announcement I posted, I get the spiffy new Less Wrong "system has crashed" error. I get the same problem when I click on my username (presumably because the top post in that list is the one linked to above). It was working fine earlier. I'm not sure what happened. I'd like to read the comments that have since been added. Can anyone offer a hint about this?
a381c684-7d94-4bb3-801b-5f9ee4178989	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Russian x-risks newsletter March 2020 – coronavirus update Russia recently attracted attention as it reported fewer CV cases than other countries. Probably the best explanation is under-reporting and under-testing. Other explanations are shorter life expectancy and higher home temperature. Russia government is taking some measures against coronavirus, but they seem to be not radical or effective. Testing is not widespread, though some private companies are allowed to test now, as of March 26. Before it, only 3 consequent positive tests including the one in Novosibirsk Vector (the military bio lab where was an explosion in fall 2019 and which preserves a collection of deadly viruses) were needed to establish Сovid-19 officially. It created a backlog of testing. Also, mostly the people returned from abroad were tested, not locals, which created an illusion of no local transmission. One may expect that Putin would act cruelly to stop the pandemic, maybe even put lions on the streets as in one meme, but he acted very mildly, not in Modi style. From 28 of March national holiday is declared, which is not lockdown (lockdown requires to waive rents and the state may have to pay for it, which it doesn’t want). Many people are parting on warmer areas, and the spring is surprising early and warm. Cafe and parks will be closed from tomorrow. From my observations, only starting from today, I can see a significant number of people in masks on streets (like 10-20 per cent). People above 65 are not allowed to go out and some were fined, but many still out. Schools are online. Several facts about CV in Russia: * As of 27 of March: Russia: 1036 cases, 703 in Moscow. * Age of recent CV deaths in Russia: 45m (abroad, in Cuba, diabetic), 70, 73, 79f (died from clot), 88, 56f (+cancer). * The reaction to the pandemic was delayed because they didn’t want to spoil important voting on new constitution April 22. Now it postponed. * The official number is growing, but not as a quick exponent like in NY. May grow more after testing will be
844ef6cf-fb79-48b7-be28-3e186c8c8e60	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	(Trying To) Study Textbooks Effectively: A Year of Experimentation When I started studying the art of studying, I wanted to understand the role of book learning. How do we best learn from a textbook, scientific article, or nonfiction book? What can a student of average intelligence do to stay on top of their homework? Is it possible to improve your annual knowledge growth rate by one or two percent by learning how to learn? Should a motivated student take a maximizing or satisficing approach to their coursework? How many of the skills of a top scholar are strategic, collaborative, psychological, or involve merely a set of habits and technological proficiencies? Fortunately, I started with the most esoteric of approaches, exploring visualization. I tried using a memory palace to memorize a textbook. It was vivid, fun, and creative. Exploring visualization helped me understand chemical diagrams, led me to invent a math problem, and made learning a lot more fun. But I simply couldn't jam that much detailed technical knowledge into my head. The method didn't help me pass my final exam, and I dropped it. Posts from this era include Visual Babble and Prune, Using a memory palace to memorize a textbook, The point of a memory palace, Visualizing the textbook for fun and profit, After that, I explored speed reading. I read the theory, experimented both with physical technique and speed reading apps, and kind of broke my reading habits developing this difficult-to-correct tendency to skim. This tendency to read too quickly persisted long after I'd dropped deliberate attempts at speed reading. I finally made some intellectual progress, which preceded correcting the reading habit itself, in The Comprehension Curve. Then I explored the world of Anki and tried to use flashcards to memorize a textbook instead (or at least a few chapters). After simulating the sheer amount of flashcard review I'd have to do to keep a strategy like that up long-term, I dropped that too. I felt that forming memories of narrow facts (like the structure of RNA po
0b0c252e-519b-41e9-98ee-1249d37e4834	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	What is Wisdom? Cross-posted on my blog: http://garybasin.com/what-is-wisdom/ What could go wrong if we develop technology to significantly amplify the intelligence of human minds? Intelligence is tricky to understand and I get confused when comparing it to the related concepts of wisdom and rationality. I'd like to draw clear distinctions between them. In a nutshell, rationality is the tendency to apply the capacity of intelligence, whereas wisdom describes the embodied knowledge of human behavioral patterns, specifically in terms of failure modes. The relationship between rationality and intelligence seems better understood. My favorite exposition is in the excellent What Intelligence Tests Miss (good summary on LW). Of course, LessWrong itself is partially devoted to understanding this distinction and CFAR was built to see if we can isolate and train rationality (as opposed to intelligence). Intelligence is typically viewed as the capacity to perform the relevant moves -- explicit reasoning, analogical application of past experiences, and avoiding biased heuristics of thought -- when presented with a well-formed problem. In practice, the hard part of taking advantage of intelligence is having the awareness that one is facing a situation where intelligence can be explicitly applied. Thus, one can perform well when formally posed a problem, such as on an IQ or SAT test, yet still behave foolishly in the real world where the problems are not clearly structured and labeled. A colloquialism which approximates this dynamic is the idea of "book" and "street" smarts. Thus, to be rational requires not only some capacity for intelligence but, more importantly, the habits of identifying when and where to apply it in the wild. How does wisdom fit into this? Informally, wisdom refers to the ability to think and act with sound judgment and common sense, often developed through a diversity of life experiences. We tend to look to the aged members of society as a font of wisdom rather than
f32782ed-24f3-49a0-8cff-f486f017f8b3	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	20 Modern Heresies Burning of Jan Hus, Spiezer Chronicle, 1485 You may have heard about Hereticon, an exclusive invite-only “conference for thoughtcrime” that recently happened in Miami. While I’m sure there were some true heretics in attendance, the cynical part of me feels like it was basically just an excuse for rich, self-styled contrarians to hobnob and pat themselves on the back for being such radical thinkers. Looking at the list of presentations, I’m left a little cold—topics included eugenics, geoengineering, UFOs, transhumanism, psychedelics, ESP, and polyamory. Perhaps this just speaks to what a radical thinker I am (oh wait, now I’m doing it), but I don’t find any of these topics to be all that heretical, at least not in any serious or deep way. All of this of course begs the question: what exactly is a heresy? In my estimation, a heresy is a view that questions something which everyone seems to take for granted, something that we have forgotten can even be questioned in the first place. In the best instance, it is a view that no one has truly expressed before, and not just because it is obviously false or uninteresting. It might be wrong or impractical, in fact it probably is, but it’s also not impossible to imagine a world in which this belief becomes mainstream. Why engage in heretical thinking? Is it just a convenient excuse to write a bunch of controversial shit (yes…) or is there some broader goal that is served by attempting to come up with a list of blasphemous views? Naturally, Paul Graham has already written eloquently on heresies, how to find them, and why we should try to find them in his essay, “What You Can’t Say”. > “Great work tends to grow out of ideas that others have overlooked, and no idea is so overlooked as one that's unthinkable. Natural selection, for example. It's so simple. Why didn't anyone think of it before? Well, that is all too obvious. Darwin himself was careful to tiptoe around the implications of his theory. He wanted to spend his tim
a1838131-2ea8-4bf0-a82a-5a14b25b1696	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	The Ferrett: "The Day I Realized My Uncle Hung Around With Gay Guys" Updated link.
58aeff35-b456-4c8c-a3f9-7b6ba683306f	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Open and Welcome Thread – June 2021 If it’s worth saying, but not worth its own post, here's a place to put it. If you are new to LessWrong, here's the place to introduce yourself. Personal stories, anecdotes, or just general comments on how you found us and what you hope to get from the site and community are invited. This is also the place to discuss feature requests and other ideas you have for the site, if you don't want to write a full top-level post. If you want to explore the community more, I recommend reading the Library, checking recent Curated posts, seeing if there are any meetups in your area, and checking out the Getting Started section of the LessWrong FAQ. If you want to orient to the content on the site, you can also check out the new Concepts section. The Open Thread tag is here. The Open Thread sequence is here.
ccf848d1-27d6-4c67-b584-b599f8a728a4	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/youtube	Youtube Transcripts	Careers in technical AI safety \| Owain Evans and Victoria Krakovna \| EA Global: London 2017 now very pleased to introduce a wine Evans and Victoria Krakov now so a wine works on AI safety and reinforcement learning at the future of humanities Institute at the University of Oxford he also leads a project on inferring human preferences with andreas stool ruler of org he has published papers at nips and aai and an online interactive textbook at agent models org his recent collaboration surveying AI experts is forthcoming in the Journal of AI research Victoria is a research scientist at deep mind she's working on AI safety she did her PhD in machine learning and statistics at Harvard on building interpretable models she also co-founded the future of life Institute a nonprofit organization working to mitigate technological risks to humanity and increase the likeliness of a positive outcome so please join me in welcoming Orion and Victoria thank you all for joining us today for careers in a ICT session first I will talk about the kind of research problems that come up with this area and some of the things we've been working on and I'll hand it over to a wine to tell you about how to get into the field so in terms of technical AI safety research there are two major perspectives on the research agenda on the one hand we have the machine learning perspective that's represented by the concrete problems in AI safety paper so if you haven't read that one yet to how they recommend and this is basically about the kind of problems that are likely to arise with advanced AI systems in the future and are likely to be serious problems that already come up in some form for present-day machine learning systems so we can have some sort of feedback loop that can empirical feedback loop between supporting these problems on present-day systems while keeping an ad for general solutions that might generalize to future systems that are much more advanced on the other hand we have the agent foundations agenda which was developed by Miri and they're focusing on really foundational problems in aligning super intelligent systems such as decision theory in logical uncertainty [Music] both of these research directions are really important but in this talk we are going to focus on the machine learning perspective on technically ICT machine learning safety research can be seen as divided and to drop two broad categories which is specification and robustness the specification problems are about making sure that we can specify human preferences to air systems in a reliable way and that if our specifications are incorrect then our agents can still figure out how to how to do the right thing how to do what we want them to do and they're just what we say that we want them to do robustness problems are about reliably learning to satisfy a specification so on the specification side you have things like reward gaming where basically if you have for example reinforcement learning agent and you give it a reward function then if your reward function doesn't perfectly represent what you wanted to do then the agent might find a loophole and get lots and lots of reward without doing what you want here unfortunately we don't have the video but opening I had this awesome demo where the agent was supposed to be playing a boat race game so the boat was supposed to go around the track as fast as possible and complete the race when instead it found that it could just go in another circle and hit the same targets over and over again and get lots of reward without actually playing the game this kind of thing is sort of fun to watch in a game video but less fun if your agent is actually trying to do something important in the world interrupts ability is another big problem that has to do with being able to turn our agents off when you know when we need to fix bugs we need to change their objectives and so on and the issue here is that if the agent understands that is about to get less reward if it's turned off then if it's not turned off then it has an incentive to change its policy changes action to avoid being shut off one tricky thing about trying to solve this problem is that we don't only want our agents to not resist being turned off but we also want them to not seek being turned off so we don't want them to cause trouble just so we turn them off so we have to kind of align the incentives so that they are exactly different to being turned off which hard- side-effect is the problem of having the agent that she been objective without causing unnecessary disruptions to its environment for example if you have a robot and you want to carry a box from point A to point B then you're implicitly asking it to carry that box without breaking the bars in its path or without you know pumping it to humans without scratching the furniture etc etc so there are lots of these kind of common-sense constraints that we want the agent to satisfy but we don't want to have to specify them exclusively and we want the agent to have some sort of general heuristic about not causing disruptions yes the other hand we have robustness problems so even if your specification is perfect then unsafe things might happen while the agent is learning to satisfy the specification one issue that comes up a lot is distributional shift where your training data must not be from exactly the same distribution as your test data for instance maybe you trained you a robot arm to pick up blocks but you're testing it on picking up a mug and we want our agents to feel gracefully in these situations and see if acceleration is what happens when the agent is trying to explore lots of different states so they can find a good solution but it gets into a state that it cannot recover from like this unfortunate room bonus staircase so basically current reinforcement learning systems often have to explore all the states many times in order to find a good solution but a practice that is really undesirable because some people not worth exploring intracellular perturbations are a method for for example taking the spanda image and adding some tweaks to the pixel so it looks exactly like a panda to a human but the your neuron that will be really really confident as a given so basically you can do this with not just neural networks but also other machine learning systems and you can take an image or a sound file or whatever and tweak it a little bit and make the neural network misclassified with high confidence and right now this has been a very popular research area there's been lots of work post on the attack side and defense side but so far as far as I can tell the attack side is winning here are some of the recent work that we have been doing at deep mind and FHI on these technical safety problems the first one unfortunately we don't have the video of the backflipping noodle deep reinforcement learning computer preferences is paper about teaching the agent some kind of complicated human preferences that we don't know how to specify directly so for example if you wanted to do a back flip that's hard to design a reward function to bring it back there but it is something that we can know when we see it so human can look at two videos of the agent try to do back surface a little smaller back foot so this paper the use this kind of pairwise comparisons to allow the agent to efficiently learn how to do this kind of complex task this is a collaboration between deep mind and open air and we first know cloning with the crab reward channel is a formalization of the problem often specified or what functions as you saw on the previous slide with the boat race example sometimes the observed reward that the agency's does not match what we could call the true reward which is some kind of idealized reward function that represents what we really want the agent to do so for example if you look at the different trajectories that the agent could take then for most of them maybe the observed matches its reward but for that Luke we're just kind of hitting the same targets over and over again that's how observed work with low - reward and in this paper we kind of investigate what sort of extra information we could give the agent to enable it to figure out what the true reward is even in the presence of corruption where corruption is basically a state is corrupt if the true and observed rules don't matter if the interruptible agents is on the interrupts ability problem this is basically a formalization giving some you know a definition of interrupts ability and investigating what sort of agents are more likely to be interrupted for example they find that off policy reinforcement learning agents are more likely to be interruptible than on policy ones and yeah the collaboration between dick Milan FHI and last but not least we have trial without error which is the wine has been working on with Stanford and here basically they want to prevent the agent from taking catastrophic actions while it's learning so at the beginning there is a human that watches the agent learn and interferes whenever the agent is about to do something really bad and there is a classifier that's trying to predict when the human is going to intervene and eventually now in the class the classifier is drained the classifier can take over so the human doesn't have to watch stage in forever you know if you want to add anything else about the peeper wait so yeah these are some of the things we have been working on in this area and if you are excited to do this kind of work then no one is going to tell you a bit about how to get into the queue great thank you so I think the field of AI is incredibly exciting at the moment I don't think any field maybe in human history has illuminated some fundamental area of of science in this case the science of intelligence as quickly and as excessively as AI and on top of that so I think it's very exciting time for AI but also the AI safety problem I think is ever more important and so I think there's lots of reason to get into this field so these are some of the organizations that are involved probably by the time some of you finish undergraduate or PhD there'll be more of those organizations so this is not going to be the end of it and many of these orgs are represented in some form at this conference so how do you get into this field how do you end up one of these organizations or somewhere else doing AI safety research so the fundamentals and the graduate degree or if someone is going back to do an undergraduate ii undergraduate degree what you need to cover this is really just a laundry list of courses standard math background and some programming some fundamental kind of deep learning machine learning reinforcement learning if you're interested in more theoretical work the kind that Mary does but other organizations are doing as well then more pure maths and computer science theory if you're interested in being a software engineer or research engineer as the sometimes called where you're working from an engineering perspective on machine learning very safety then doing more CS and software engineering in kind of general tips for the learning the fundamentals I'd recommend prioritizing harder courses acquiring research experience as early as you can so try try to get your name on a paper and find a mentor supervisor doesn't need to be someone famous it could be a grad student or a postdoc but find someone work closely with them work on problems that they're excited about and lots of these tips are about getting feedback early about whether you're a good fit for AI research and whether it's a good fit for you so whether it's something you're going to enjoy so take hard courses to find out if you can if you can handle them if you enjoy them okay so that's the fundamentals and then how do you actually get into doing research so I think that the the best background is still a PhD in machine learning for the kind of research that people that do mind or open AI or FA much of the research that FA chai chai and so on there are some jobs that that don't require a PhD but this is a good default option and if you're doing a PhD definitely don't be afraid to do research outside air safety as a way of learning developing as a researcher building up a set of collaborators PhD in Europe can sometimes be quicker and there are some very good places in Europe so don't rule that out there's general advice on how to do PhD going to make go into the major conferences definitely good ideas of building a network both of our researchers and people interested in a Oh safety and so well alternatives through a PhD so there are alternatives one thing you might do is try to get an internship at one of the groups doing AI research by our safety research you don't always need a PhD for this and that can sometimes kind of bootstrap your your career Google brain residency is a great program explicitly aimed at taking people without PhD and getting them up to speed on contemporary deep learning research people have done great work there so that's a good launching point for your career if you don't have PhD or master's research engineering is an option especially at deepmind or open AI and so it's going to be closer there to the normal software engineering backgrounds I can talk more about that in questions there are some machining startups and Google open AI FHI some organizations will hire people with PhDs in related fields and so fields where you'll do similar kinds of maths or statistics or programming and so people have come from all of these fields to these organizations so if you do it if you're fairly advanced in a PhD in those areas then might just make sense to to finish it okay and I just want to we'll take questions in a sec just want to highlight some really great resources which should be the first port of call eight thousand hours has amazing resources online and also well worth talking to them in person if you're interested in getting into this field Piku has a list of recent air safety fields and a review and you should apply for jobs if you're interested FHI has two areas a few jobs and I'm always looking for interns and there are jobs in deep mind as well I guess it didn't if you want to say anything that yeah I can apply to the safety team or also apply for internships so we have a couple of insurance this year we'll probably have insurance of future years great okay so we'll end there thank you [Applause] [Music] yes you can still submit questions on online so yeah it's our first question quite quite generalist but um given the sort of wrist in the necks of centuries or decades why why do you think this is herbs of AIChE would be a priority in your in your thought of opinion like why is a safety priority over the collar causes so one thing about sort of try to predict progress in AI is that it's very hard and if you look at surveys of experts like for example the AI impact survey that came out recently then you can see that there is just a huge variance in expert predictions on when advanced AI or human-level AI might be built and basically I think the takeaway from that is that we really don't know and the experts really don't know so it could you know it could potentially be 100 years it could potentially be just a couple of decades away and especially in the case that it might be sooner like it makes sense to start working on a safety and especially since a lot of these problems are quite difficult both on the foundation side and on the machine learning side we don't need to start working in these now and not wait until we are certain that you know advanced AI is upon us because that would be too late and it also takes time to build a research community around safety and who integrated with the machine learning community that's something that we're doing now it's important to continue doing it what would you both consider is something that's maybe missing in the AI community currently give me that AIE rather than a safety sorry I can throw some things out there I'd say so so one thing is the safety in some ways is a very difficult thing to study because the ultimate aim is to build systems that have where we have some guarantee that the system is going to be safe even if it's capabilities like far beyond humans and far beyond maybe its initial state before it does any any learning or something like that and to get a guarantee you need to room out like every possible thing that could go wrong maybe you need some kind of some evidence like that that you're sure that there's not going to be some mistakes you've made and so you really need to be aware of the big picture and I think there aren't maybe that many people combining the big picture thinking with the modular machine learning research the kind of thing that can make it into papers so one thing is it's difficult to write a paper where you address the whole big picture issue given that it's got to fit into seven or eight pages but I think that it's really important to keep in mind both the big picture goal that you've got to have a system that is is kind of completely reliable and is able to deal with all kinds of you know you make sure all the possible holes are patched and at the same time then doing incremental research that is modular and that other people can build on I've just like to add to that that yes it is in fact quite helpful for more people to kind of keep the big picture in mind while you can get the machine learning safety problems and it would be good to build more bridges between example the Foundation's agenda and the machine learning agenda because right now they're still quite separate and there's not very much overlap but potentially there could be problems that are sort of somewhere in the middle and generally there may well be more sort of unknown unknowns out there that we haven't thought about yet that are not on any of our agendas and I think we need people to think outside the box and look for problems that may not have been discovered yet okay great and so given how many people are working in AI safety currently how much more do you think we need me to scale this in the next decade two times more people five times more people yes well if it was ten times more people I would feel much happier about the state of the field I think so far it's still quite small and there's a lot of difficult problems out there and I think the existing researchers are making good progress but it feels like right now it feels like there are too few of us to really kind of make forward progress on all these things so yeah I think they can order of magnitude more qualified and passionate researchers would be that would be a big step what do you think yeah I completely agree so it's still a tiny field so machine learning is not even that big an academic field it will grow a lot it's much bigger at Google because they can act quickly academia it's not so big but a huge proportion of machinery is people doing things like labeling images so you know finding a cat in the image and like draw a box around the cat is a huge amount of research in that problem which is you know important and useful and so on there's like a huge amount of research on ad clicks basically things like that predicting when people will click on an ad and there's really a tiny amount of work on fundamental problems in air safety and I think if there were more people doing it it would be very clear that there are lots of hard problems for those people to sink their sink their teeth into and lots of interesting directions so yeah I think I think it can grow like grow a lot yes so on that point what do you think is currently being done to sort of gain that order of magnitude growth in in safety research I would say open fill is bland three projects doing amazing work funding academic researchers and groups like open AI epic Chow is hiring and scaling up I can't speak you know deep mind is hiring I guess yeah I think we are still looking for more people to work on safety I think yeah at the moment I see this as being mostly a qualified talent bottleneck so people who are both both have the research experience and qualifications and are passionate about air safety just to give a a plug I'm on the board of a new a small area safety nonprofit funded by of the Flannery project which is called org it's going to be based in San Francisco websites not alive yet but if you want to work on our safety have a software engineering background maybe or a research background one live in San Francisco but with some great people there are new opportunities there and so will I'm working to it's trying to have there be other centers of this kind of research which I think it's important the future of life Institute had a grant program at some point to fund a higher diversity of teams to work on these problems and there should be a second grant round I'm not sure exactly when but I think it's going to exist so like one thing that's important both for the pipeline and for solving the problems is to have more different teams working on the problems from different angles and from different perspectives yes especially with I feel that's a little bit speculative in the sense that we are trying to predict what future systems they're about you like issues will arise it's important that we try to approach these problems from different perspectives so that some of us will be right hopefully yeah okay great and if you want to pick their minds at all both Orion and Victoria and actually Andrew from the previous talk will be hosting and all will be having office hours now which I believe is actually on this floor we have a break now until 3:45 so if you could join me in really thanking a wine in Victoria for their time [Applause] [Music]
c5529d00-010f-4d09-9f85-8d8e71f18ee6	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Some questions I've been pondering... * Was there an objective reality that existed whether or not we could ever observe it? * Were there laws that restored strict causality to phenomena that seemed inherently random? * Was everything in the universe predetermined? * When do political parties start being a bad idea? * Why don't we want the government controlling the internet but we're okay with them controlling our education system? * How is it that outcomes can be likely and not happen and outcomes can be unlikely and still happen? * Is a democracy possible in the information age? Or has social media and technology changed the way humans function in a "democracy" and policy hasn't caught up yet? * Where do jokes come from? * How many people do I admire that are actually miserable? * Which people know what the right answers are, but no one listens to because they either 1. Don't look the part 2. Don't act like the part 3. Don't talk like the part? * Is there really a difference between a more-disciplined person and a less-disciplined person, or do they just experience their temptations in different ways? * Why isn't anyone building something like the Statue of Liberty, The Eiffel Tower, or The Great Bridge anymore? The coolest thing in recent years may be modern looking skyscrapers. * How is it some things existed in the past but there's no record of them in the present (online)? * There are a certain set of questions/problems that every person is faced with: how to choose a spouse, how to pick a career (and when to leave the one you're in), how to deal with difficult family members, how to deal with losing someone you love, how to enjoy life outside of work, and many more. Why is there no Thesis on Life or an almanack that answers these questions? Tim Ferris's Tribe of Mentors is the closest thing I'm aware of and it's still a long way off. This would be a really, really fun project to work on.
0b3e26b9-9cb3-407b-bbdf-0b6074225a63	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Welcome to Berkeley SSC Meetup [Edit With Your Details] (The following are our suggestions for what kind of information is best to include in the welcome post of your group, feel free to replace them with whatever you think is best) What kind of events does your group usually run? What does it usually do? How frequently does your group organize events or meet? Who would be a good fit for you group? Should they have any particular skills or have done some specific background reading?
5085f092-30a3-4927-abb2-7c31b1263cf6	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/eaforum	Effective Altruism Forum	Key questions about artificial sentience: an opinionated guide [crossposted at [LessWrong](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/cwDbYmnSdoobdcJnx/key-questions-about-artificial-sentience-an-opinionated) and [Experience Machines](https://experiencemachines.substack.com/p/key-questions-about-artificial-sentience); [twitter thread summary](https://twitter.com/rgblong/status/1518650217171664897?s=20&t=I85ysX6iev7msRiU8GNBxg)] What is it like to be DALL-E 2? Are today’s AI systems consciously experiencing anything as they [generate pictures of teddy bears on the moon](https://openai.com/dall-e-2/#demos), [explain jokes](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/mLuQfS7gmfr4nwTdv/google-s-new-540-billion-parameter-language-model), and [suggest terrifying new nerve agents](https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2022/3/30/23001712/ai-research-virus-scientific-information-dangerous)? This post gives a list of open scientific and philosophical questions about AI sentience. First, I frame the issue of AI sentience, proposing what I think is the [Big Question](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gFoWdiGYtXrhmBusH/key-questions-about-artificial-sentience-an-opinionated#The_Big_Question) we should be trying to answer: a detailed computational theory of sentience that applies to both biological organisms and artificial systems. Then, I discuss the research questions that are relevant to making progress on this question. Even if the ultimate question cannot be answered to our satisfaction, trying to answer it will yield valuable insights that can help us navigate possible AI sentience. This post represents my current best guess framework for thinking about these issues. I'd love to hear from commenters: suggested [alternative frameworks](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gFoWdiGYtXrhmBusH/key-questions-about-artificial-sentience-an-opinionated#Why_not_answer_a_different_question_) for the Big Question, as well as your thoughts on the [sub-questions](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gFoWdiGYtXrhmBusH/key-questions-about-artificial-sentience-an-opinionated#Subquestions_for_the_Big_Question). Introduction ============ > > “Maybe if a reinforcement learning agent is getting negative rewards, it’s feeling pain to some very limited degree. And if you’re running millions or billions of copies of that, creating quite a lot, that’s a real moral hazard.” -Sam Altman (OpenAI), [interviewed](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/podcasts/transcript-ezra-klein-interviews-sam-altman.html) by Ezra Klein (2021) > > > Are today's ML systems already sentient? Most experts seem to think “probably not”, and it doesn’t seem like there’s currently a strong argument that today’s large ML systems are conscious.[[1]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-1) But AI systems are getting more complex and more capable with every passing week. And we understand sufficiently little about consciousness that we face huge uncertainty about whether, when, and why AI systems will have the capacity to have conscious experiences, including especially significant experiences like suffering or pleasure. We have a poor understanding of what possible AI experiences could be like, and how they would compare to human experiences. One potential catastrophe we want to avoid is unleashing powerful AI systems that are misaligned with human values: that's why the AI alignment community is hard at work trying to ensure we don't build power-seeking optimizers that [take over the world in order to pursue some goal that we regard as alien and worthless](https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/deceptively-aligned-mesa-optimizers?s=r). It’s encouraging that more work is going into minimizing risks from misaligned AI systems. At the same time, we should also take care to avoid engineering a catastrophe for AI systems themselves: a world in which we have created AIs that are capable of intense suffering, suffering which we do not mitigate, whether through ignorance, malice, or indifference. There could be very, very many sentient artificial beings. Jamie Harris ([2021](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/cEqBEeNrhKzDp25fH/the-importance-of-artificial-sentience)) argues that “the number of [artificially sentient] beings could be vast, perhaps many trillions of human-equivalent lives on Earth and presumably even more lives if we colonize space or less complex and energy-intensive artificial minds are created.” There’s lots of uncertainty here: but given large numbers of future beings, and the possibility for intense suffering, the scale of AI suffering could dwarf the already mind-bogglingly large scale of animal suffering from factory farming [[2]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-2) \| \| \| --- \| \| The San Junipero servers from season 3, episode 4 of Black Mirror \| It would be nice if we had a clear outline for how to avoid catastrophic scenarios from AI suffering, something like: here are our best computational theories of what it takes for a system, whether biological or artificial, to experience conscious pleasure or suffering, and here are the steps we can take to avoid engineering large-scale artificial suffering. Such a roadmap would help us prepare to wisely [share the world with digital minds](https://www.nickbostrom.com/papers/digital-minds.pdf). For example, you could imagine a consciousness researcher, standing up in front of a group of engineers at DeepMind or some other top AI lab, and giving a talk that aims to prevent them creating suffering AI systems. This talk might give the following recommendations: 1. Do not build an AI system that (a) is sufficiently agent-like and (b) has a [global workspace](https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.10390) and reinforcement learning signals that (c) are broadcast to that the workspace and (d) play a certain computational role in shaping learning and goals and (e) are associated with avoidant and self-protective [behaviors](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK32656/). 2. And here is, precisely, in architectural and computational terms, what it means for a system to satisfy conditions a-e—not just these vague English terms. 3. Here are the kinds of architectures, training environments, and learning processes that might give rise to such components. 4. Here are the behavioral 'red flags' of such components, and here are the [interpretability](https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/chris-olah-interpretability-research/#digital-suffering-012049) methods that would help identify such components—all of which into take into account the fact that AIs might have incentives to deceive us about such matters. So, why can't I go give that talk to DeepMind right now? First, I’m not sure that components a-e are the right sufficient conditions for artificial suffering. I’m not sure if they fit with our best scientific understanding of suffering as it occurs in humans and animals. Moreover, even if I were sure that components a-e are on the right track, I don’t know how to specify them in a precise enough way that they could guide actual engineering, interpretability, or auditing efforts. Furthermore, I would argue that no one, including AI and consciousness experts who are far smarter and more knowledgeable than I am, is currently in a position to give this talk—or something equivalently useful—at DeepMind. What would we need to know in order for such talk to be possible? The Big Question ================ In an ideal world, I think the question that we would want an answer to is: > > What is the precise computational theory that specifies what it takes for a biological or artificial system to have various kinds of conscious, [valenced](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gFoWdiGYtXrhmBusH/key-questions-about-artificial-sentience-an-opinionated#Questions_about_valence) experiences—that is, conscious experiences that are pleasant or unpleasant, such as pain, fear, and anguish or pleasure, satisfaction, and bliss? > > > Why not answer a different question? ------------------------------------ The importance and coherence of framing this question in this way depends on five assumptions. 1. Sentientism about moral patienthood: if a system (human, non-human animal, AI) has the capacity to have conscious valenced experiences—if it is sentient[[3]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-3)—then it is a moral patient. That is, it deserves moral concern for its own sake, and its pain/suffering and pleasure matter. This assumption is why the Big Question is morally important.[[4]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-4) 2. Computational functionalism about sentience: for a system to have a given conscious valenced experience is for that system to be in a (possibly very complex) computational state. That assumption is why the Big Question is asked in computational (as opposed to neural or biological) terms.[[5]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-5) 3. Realism about phenomenal consciousness: phenomenal consciousness exists. It may be identical to, or grounded in, physical processes, and as we learn more about it, it may not have all of the features that it intuitively seems to have. But phenomenal consciousness is not entirely illusory, and we can define it “[innocently](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/2017-report-consciousness-and-moral-patienthood#Defined)” enough that it points to a real phenomenon without baking in any dubious metaphysical assumptions. In philosopher’s terms, we are rejecting [strong illusionism](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/SJjaWcMKtcdM3FW9u/grokking-illusionism). This assumption is why the Big Question is asked in terms of conscious valenced experiences. 4. Plausibility: it’s not merely logically possible, but non-negligibly likely, that some future (or existing) AI systems will be (or are) in these computational states, and thereby (per assumption 2) sentient. This assumption is why the Big Question is action-relevant. 5. Tractability: we can make scientific progress in understanding what these computational states are. This assumption is why the Big Question is worth working on.[[6]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-6) All of these assumptions are up for debate. But I actually won't be defending them in this post. I've listed them in order to make clear one particular way of orienting to these topics. And in order to elicit disagreement. If you do reject one or more of these assumptions, I would be curious to hear which ones, and why—and, in light of your different assumptions, how you think we should formulate the major question(s) about AI sentience, and about the relationship between sentience and moral patienthood. (I'll note that the problem of how to re-formulating these questions in a coherent way is especially salient, and non-trivial, for strong illusionists about consciousness who hold that phenomenal consciousness does not exist at all. See [this paper by Kammerer](https://philpapers.org/rec/KAMEWS) for an attempt to think about welfare and sentience from a strong illusionist framework.) Why not answer a smaller question? ---------------------------------- In an ideal world, we could answer the Big Question soon, before we do much more work building ever-more complex AI systems that are more and more likely to be conscious. In the actual world, I do not think that we will answer the Big Question any time in the next decade. Instead, we will need to act cautiously, taking into consideration what we know, short of a full answer. That said, I think it is useful to have the Big Question in mind as an orienting question, and indeed to try to just take a swing at the full problem. As Holden Karnofsky [writes](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/zGiD94SHwQ9MwPyfW/important-actionable-research-questions-for-the-most#Comparison_with_more_incremental_work), “there is…something to be said for directly tackling the question you most want the all-things-considered answer to (or at least a significant update on).” Taking an ambitious approach can yield a lot of progress, even while the approach is unlikely to yield a complete answer. Subquestions for the Big Question ================================= In the rest of this post, I’ll list what I think are the most important questions about consciousness in general, and about valenced states in particular, that bear on the question of AI sentience. ### A note on terminology First, a note on terminology. By “consciousness” I mean “phenomenal consciousness”, which philosophers use to pick out subjective experience, or there being something that it is like to be a given system. In ordinary language, “consciousness” is used to refer to intelligence, higher cognition, having a self-concept, and many other traits. These traits may end up being related to phenomenal consciousness, but are conceptually distinct from it. We can refer to certain states as conscious (e.g., feeling back pain, seeing a bright red square on a monitor) or not conscious (e.g., perceptual processing of a subliminal stimulus, hormone regulation by the hypothalamus). We can also refer to a creature or system as conscious (e.g. you right now, an octopus) or not conscious (e.g., a brick, a human in a coma). By “sentient”, I mean capable of having a certain subset of phenomenally conscious experiences—valenced ones. Experiences that are phenomenally conscious but non-valenced would include visual experiences, like seeing a blue square. (If you enjoy or appreciate looking at a blue square, this might be associated with a valenced experience, but visual perception itself is typically taken to be a non-valenced experience). At times, I use “suffering” and “pleasure” as shorthands for the variety of negatively and positively valenced experiences. \| \| \| --- \| \| 'International Klein Blue (IKB Godet) 1959' by Yves Klein (1928-62). Which people claim to appreciate looking at. \| Questions about scientific theories of consciousness ---------------------------------------------------- The [scientific study of consciousness](https://theassc.org/), as undertaken by neuroscientists and other cognitive scientists, tries to answer what Scott Aaronson calls the “[pretty hard problem](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/Qiiiv9uJWLDptH2w6/the-pretty-hard-problem-of-consciousness#The_pretty_hard_problem_of_consciousness)” of consciousness: which physical states are associated with which conscious experiences? This is a meaningful open question regardless of your views on the metaphysical relationship between physical states and conscious experiences (i.e., your views on the “[hard problem](http://consc.net/papers/facing.pdf)” of consciousness).[[7]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-7) Scientific theories of consciousness necessarily start with the human case, since it is the case which we are most familiar with and have the most data about. The purpose of this section is to give a brief overview of the methods and theories in the scientific study of consciousness before raising the main open questions and limitations. A key explanandum of a scientific theory of consciousness is why some, but not all, information processing done by the human brain seems to give rise to consciousness experience. As Graziano ([2017](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frobt.2017.00060/full)) puts it: > > A great deal of visual information enters the eyes, is processed by the brain and even influences our behavior through priming effects, without ever arriving in awareness. Flash something green in the corner of vision and ask people to name the first color that comes to mind, and they may be more likely to say “green” without even knowing why. But some proportion of the time we also claim, “I have a subjective visual experience. I see that thing with my conscious mind. Seeing feels like something.” > > > Neuroscientific theories of human consciousness seek to identify the brain regions and processes that explain the presence or absence of consciousness. They seek to capture a range of phenomena: * the patterns of verbal report and behavior present in ordinary attentive consciousness * the often surprising patterns of report and behavior that we see when we manipulate conscious perception in various ways: phenomena like [change blindness](https://philpapers.org/browse/changeinattentional-blindness), [backwards masking](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00006/full), various patterns of perceptual [confidence](https://philpapers.org/rec/MORCTC-7) and decision making * various pathologies caused by brain legions, surgeries, and injuries, such as amnesia, [blindsight](https://philpapers.org/rec/HOLBAT-3), and split-brain phenomena [[8]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-8) * loss of consciousness in dreamless sleep, anesthesia, coma, and vegetative states Computational glosses on neuroscientific theories of consciousness seek to explain these patterns in terms of the computations that are being performed by various regions of the brain. Theories of consciousness differ in how they interpret this evidence and what brain processes and/or regions they take to explain it. -The most popular scientific theory of consciousness is probably the [global workspace theory](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0079612305500049) of consciousness, which holds that conscious states are those that are ‘broadcast’ to a ‘global workspace’, a network of neurons that makes information available to a variety of subsystems. \| \| \| --- \| \| Illustration from the canonical paper on global workspace theory \| -[Higher-order theories](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consciousness-higher/) of consciousness hold that what it is to be consciously seeing a red apple is for you to be a) perceiving the red apple and b) to have a higher-order mental state (introspection, metacognition) that represents that state. -First-order theories of consciousness hold that neither a global workspace nor higher-order representations is necessary for consciousness - some kind of perceptual representation is, by itself, sufficient for consciousness (e.g. Tye's PANIC theory, discussed by Muehlhauser [here](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/2017-report-consciousness-and-moral-patienthood#PANIC)). -The [attention schema theory](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00500/full) of consciousness holds that conscious states are a mid-level, lossy ‘sketch’ of our attention, analogously to how the [body schema](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_schema) is a ‘lossy’ sketch of the state of our body. \| \| \| --- \| \| I like how content this fellow from Graziano’s [paper](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00500/full) is \| The big open question in the science of consciousness is which, if any, of these (and other[[9]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-9)) theories are correct. But as Luke Muehlhauser has noted, even the leading theories of consciousness are woefully underspecified. What exactly does it mean for a system to have a ‘global workspace’? What exactly does it take for a representation to be ‘broadcast’ to it? What processes, exactly, count as higher-order representation? How are attention schemas realized? To what extent are these theories even inconsistent with each other - what different predictions do they make, and how can we experimentally test these predictions?[[10]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-10) Fortunately, consciousness scientists are making efforts to identify testable predictions of rival theories, e.g. Melloni et al. ([2021](https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abj3259)). My impression, from talking to [Matthias Michel](https://matthias-michel.wixsite.com/michel) about the methodology of consciousness science, is that we have learned quite a lot about consciousness in the past few decades. It’s not the case that we are completely in the dark: as noted above, we’ve uncovered many surprising and non-obvious phenomena, which serve as data that can constrain our theory-building. Relatedly, methodology in consciousness science has gotten more sophisticated: we are able to think in much more detailed ways about metacognition, perceptual decision-making, introspection, and other cognitive processes that are closely related to consciousness. Moreover, we’ve learned to take seriously the need to explain our intuitions and judgments about consciousness: the so-called [meta-problem of consciousness](https://philpapers.org/archive/CHATMO-32.pdf). Actually trying to solve the problem by constructing computational theories which try to explain the full range of phenomena could pay significant dividends for thinking about AI consciousness. We can also make progress on questions about valence—as I discuss in the next section. ### Further reading [Appendix B](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/2017-report-consciousness-and-moral-patienthood#AppendixB) of Muehlhauser's animal sentience report, on making theories of consciousness more precise; Doerig et al. ([2020](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32663056/)) outline “stringent criteria specifying how empirical data constrains theories of consciousness”. Questions about valence ----------------------- Is DALL-E 2 having conscious visual experiences? It would be extraordinarily interesting if it is. But I would be alarmed to learn that DALL-E 2 has conscious visual experiences only inasmuch as these experiences would be a warning sign that DALL-E 2 might also be capable of conscious suffering; I wouldn’t be concerned about the visual experiences per se.[[11]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-11) We assign special ethical significance to a certain subset of conscious experiences, namely the valenced ones: a range of conscious states picked out by concepts like pain, suffering, nausea, contentment, bliss, et alia. In addition to wanting a theory of consciousness in general, we want a theory of (conscious) valenced experiences: when and why is a system capable of experiencing conscious pain or pleasure? Even if we remain uncertain about phenomenal consciousness in general, being able to pick out systems that are especially likely to have valenced experiences could be very important, given the close relationship between valence and welfare and value. For example, it would be useful to be able to say confidently that, even if it consciously experiences something, DALL-E 2 is unlikely to be suffering. \| \| \| --- \| \| Advertisement for Wolcott’s Instant Pain Annihilator (c. 1860) \| How do valenced states relate to each other? -------------------------------------------- Pain, nausea, and regretting a decision all seem negatively valenced. Orgasms, massages, and enjoying a movie all seem positively valenced. Does valence mark a unified category - is there a natural underlying connection between these different states? How do unpleasant bodily sensations like pain and nausea relate to negative emotions like fear and anguish, and to more ‘intellectual’ displeasures like finding a shoddy argument frustrating? How do pleasant bodily sensations like orgasm and satiety relate to positive emotions like contentment and amusement, and to more ‘intellectual’ pleasures like appreciating an elegant math proof? To develop a computational theory of valence, we need clarity on exactly what it is that we are building a theory of. This is not to say that we need to chart the complicated ways in which English and common sense individuates and relates these disparate notions. Nor do we need to argue about the many different ways scientists and philosophers might choose to use the words “pain” vs “suffering”, or “desire” vs “wanting”. But there are substantive questions about whether the natural grouping of experiences into ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ points at a phenomenon that has a unified functional or computational explanation. And about how valenced experiences relate to motivation, desire, goals, and agency. For my part, I suspect that there is in fact [a deeper unity](https://philpapers.org/rec/MOETUA) among valenced states, one that will have a common computational or functional signature. ### Further reading Timothy Schroeder’s Three Faces of Desire ([2004](https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780195172379.001.0001/acprof-9780195172379)) has a chapter on pleasure and displeasure that is a great introduction to these issues; the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy articles on [pain](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pain/) and [pleasure](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pleasure/); Carruthers ([2018](https://faculty.philosophy.umd.edu/pcarruthers/Valence%20and%20Value.pdf)), "Valence and Value"; Henry Shevlin ([forthcoming](https://henryshevlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Felt-unpleasantness.pdf)) and my [colleague](https://patrickbutlin.com/) Patrick Butlin ([2020](https://patrickbutlin.com/consc.html)) on valence and animal welfare. What's the connection between reward and valence? ------------------------------------------------- And there are striking similarities between reinforcement learning in AI and reinforcement learning in the brain. According to the “reward prediction error hypothesis” of dopamine neuron activity, dopaminergic neurons in VTA/SNpc[[12]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-12) compute reward prediction error and broadcast this to other areas of the brain for learning. These computations have striking resemblances to [temporal difference learning](https://towardsdatascience.com/intro-to-reinforcement-learning-temporal-difference-learning-sarsa-vs-q-learning-8b4184bb4978) in AI. That said, the broadcast of the reward prediction error seems to be distinct from the experience of conscious pleasure and pain in various ways (cf. Schroeder ([2004](https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780195172379.001.0001/acprof-9780195172379)), Berridge and Kringelbach on [liking versus wanting](https://faculty.philosophy.umd.edu/pcarruthers/Liking%20versus%20Wanting.pdf)). How exactly does reward relate to valenced states in humans? In general, what gives rise to pleasure and pain, in addition to (or instead of) the processing of reward signals? A worked-out computational theory of valence would shed light on the relationship between reinforcement learning and valenced experiences. ### Further reading Schroeder ([2004](https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780195172379.001.0001/acprof-9780195172379)) on reinforcement versus pleasure; Tomasik ([2014](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1410.8233.pdf)) pp 8-11 discusses the complex relationship between reward, pleasure, motivation, and learning; Sutton and Barto's [RL textbook](https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/10-703/textbook/BartoSutton.pdf) has a chapter on neuroscience and RL. The scale and structure of valence ---------------------------------- It’s hugely important not just whether AI systems have valenced states, but a) whether these states are positively vs. negatively valenced and b) how intense the valence is. What explains the varying intensity of positively and negatively valenced states? And what explains the fact that positive and negative valence seem to trade off of each other and have a natural ‘zero’ point? Here’s a puzzle about these questions that arises in the reinforcement learning setting: it’s possible to shift the training signal of an RL agent from negative to positive, while leaving all of its learning and behavior in tact. For example, in order to train an agent to balance a pole (the classic CartPole task), you could either a) give it 0 reward for balancing the pole and a negative reward for failing b) give it positive reward for balancing the pole and 0 reward for failing. ![](http://robertlong.online/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/cartpole_train.png) The training and behavior of these two systems would be identical, in spite of the shift in the value of the rewards. Does simply shifting the numerical value of the reward to “positive” correspond to a deeper shift towards positive valence? It seems strange that simply switching the sign of a scalar value could be affecting valence in this way. Imagine shifting the reward signal for agents with more complex avoidance behavior and verbal reports. Lenhart Schubert (quoted in Tomasik ([2014](https://arxiv.org/abs/1410.8233)), from whom I take this point) remarks: “If the shift…causes no behavioural change, then the robot (analogously, a person) would still behave as if suffering, yelling for help, etc., when injured or otherwise in trouble, so it seems that the pain would not have been banished after all!” So valence seems to depend on something more complex than the mere numerical value of the reward signal. For example, perhaps it depends on prediction error in certain ways. Or perhaps the balance of pain and pleasure depends on efficient coding schemes which minimize the cost of reward signals / pain and pleasure themselves: this is the thought behind Yew‑Kwang Ng’s [work](https://philpapers.org/rec/GRODSD-8) on wild animal welfare, and Shlegeris's [brief remarks](https://shlegeris.com/2016/12/30/pain.html) inspired by this work. More generally, in order to build a satisfactory theory of valence and RL, I think we will need to: 1. Clarify what parts of a system correspond to the basic [RL ontology](https://sites.google.com/view/rl-as-agency/) of reward signal, agent, and environment 2. Take into account the complicated motivational and functional role of pain and pleasure, including: * dissociations between ‘liking’ and ‘wanting’ * ways in which pain and unpleasantness can come apart (e.g. [pain asymbolia](https://academic.oup.com/mind/article/124/494/493/2606077) * the role of emotion and expectations In my opinion[[13]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-13), progress on a theory of valence might be somewhat more tractable than progress on a theory of consciousness, given that ‘pain’ and ‘pleasure’ have clearer functional roles than phenomenal consciousness does. But I think we are still far from a satisfying theory of valence. ### Further reading Dickinson and Balleine ([2010](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anthony-Dickinson-3/publication/281198773_Hedonics_The_cognitive-motivational_interface/links/61519cea154b3227a8b02755/Hedonics-The-cognitive-motivational-interface.pdf)) argue that valenced states are how information about value is passed between two different RL systems in the brain--one unconscious system that does model-free reinforcement learning about homeostasis, and a conscious cognitive system that does model-based reinforcement learning; literature in predictive processing framework (e.g. Van De Cruys ([2017](https://predictive-mind.net/papers/affective-value-in-the-predictive-mind/)); the Qualia Research Institute has a [theory of valence](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/KNktjqYwQyvh2kutX/a-primer-on-the-symmetry-theory-of-valence), but I have not yet been able to understand it what this theory claims and predicts. Applying our theories to specific AI systems ============================================ The quality of discourse about AI sentience is very low—low enough that this tongue-in-cheek tweet was [discussed](https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/artificial-intelligence-conciousness-ai-deepmind-b2017393.html) by mainstream news outlets: \| conscious compute \| \| --- \| \| \| As I see it, the dialectic in discussions about AI sentience is usually not much more advanced than: > > Position A: “AI systems are very complex. Maybe they are a little bit sentient.”[[14]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-14) > Position B: “that is stupid” > > > I think that position A is not unreasonable. Given the complexity of today’s ML systems, and our uncertainty about what computations give rise to consciousness, higher levels of complexity should increase our credence somewhat that consciousness-related computations are being performed. But we can do better. Each side of this debate can give more detailed arguments about the presence or absence of sentience. People in position A can go beyond mere appeals to complexity, and say what theories of consciousness and valence predict that current AI systems are sentient—in virtue of what architectural or computational properties AI systems might be conscious: for example, reinforcement learning, higher-order representations, global workspaces. People in position B can say what pre-conditions for sentience they think are lacking in current systems—for example, a certain kind of embodiment, or a certain kind of agency—and why they think these components are necessary for consciousness. Then, they can specify more precisely what exactly they would need to see in AI systems that would increase their credence in AI sentience. One complication is that our theories of human (and animal) consciousness usually don’t make reference to “background conditions” that we might think are important. They compare different human brain states, and seek to find neural structures or computations that might be the difference-makers between conscious and unconscious--for example, broadcast to a global workspace. But these neural structures or computations are embedded in a background context that is usually not formulated explicitly: for example, in the biological world, creatures with global workspaces are also embodied agents with goals. How important are these background conditions? Are they necessary pre-conditions for consciousness? If so, how do we formulate these pre-conditions more precisely, so that we can say what it takes for an AI system to satisfy them?[[15]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-15) Detailed thinking about AI sentience usually falls between the cracks of different fields. Neuroscientists will [say their favored theory applies to AI](https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aan8871) without making detailed reference to actual AI systems. AI researchers will refer to criteria for sentience without much reference to the scientific study of sentience. In my opinion, most existing work on AI sentience simply does not go far enough to make concrete predictions about possible AI sentience. Simply attempting to apply scientific theories of consciousness and valence to existing AI systems, in a more precise and thoughtful way, could advance our understanding. Here’s a recipe for progress: * Gather leading experts on scientific theories of consciousness and leading AI researchers * Make the consciousness scientists say what precisely they think their theories imply about AI systems * Ask the AI researchers what existing, or likely-to-be-created AI systems, might be conscious according to these theories Indeed, the [digital minds research group](https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/the-team/) at FHI is putting together a workshop to do precisely this. We hope to create a space for more detailed and rigorous cross-talk between these disciplines, focusing these discussions on actual or likely AI systems and architectures. ### Further reading Schwitzgebel and Garza ([2020](https://philarchive.org/archive/SCHDAW-10)) on "Designing AI with rights, consciousness, self-respect, and freedom"; Lau, Dehane, and Kouider ([2017](https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aan8871)) apply their global workspace and higher-order theories to possible AI systems; Graziano ([2017](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frobt.2017.00060/full)) claims his attention schema theory is “a foundation for engineering artificial consciousness”; Ladak ([2021](https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/blog/assessing-sentience-in-artificial-entities#relevant-features)) proposes a list of features indicative of sentience in artificial entities; Shevlin ([2021](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/cambridge-quarterly-of-healthcare-ethics/article/abs/how-could-we-know-when-a-robot-was-a-moral-patient/83AB36D54C4F697C14D5FC6C970B6044)) on moral patienthood; Amanda Askell's [reflections](https://askellio.substack.com/p/ai-consciousness) Conclusion ========== Taking a swing at the Big Question does not mean we can’t, and shouldn’t, also pursue more ‘theory neutral’ ways of updating our credences about AI sentience. For example, by finding commonalities between extant theories of consciousness and using them to make lists of potentially consciousness indicating features. Or by devising ‘red flags’ for suffering that a variety of theories would agree on. Or by trying to find actions that are robustly good assuming a variety of views about the connection between sentience and value. This topic is sufficiently complex that how to even ask or understand the relevant questions is up for grabs. I’m not certain of the framing of the questions, and will very likely change my mind about some basic conceptual questions about consciousness and valence as I continue to think about this. Still, I think there is promise in working on the Big Question, or some related variations on it. To be sure, our neuroscience tools are way less powerful than we would like, and we know far less about the brain than we would like. To be sure, our conceptual frameworks for thinking about sentience seem shaky and open to revision. Even so, trying to actually solve the problem by constructing computational theories which try to explain the full range of phenomena could pay significant dividends. My attitude towards the science of consciousness is similar to Derek Parfit’s attitude towards ethics: since we have [only just begun](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8920621-disbelief-in-god-openly-admitted-by-a-majority-is-a) the attempt, we can be optimistic.[[16]](#fn-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-16) --- 1. There’s limited info on what “expert” consensus on this issue is. The Association for the Scientific Study of Consciousness [surveyed](https://psyarxiv.com/8mbsk/) its members. For the [question](https://osf.io/gp2wy/), "At present or in the future, could machines (e.g., robots) have consciousness?" 20.43% said 'definitely yes', 46.09% said ‘probably yes’. Of 227 philosophers of mind [surveyed](https://survey2020.philpeople.org/survey/results/5106?aos=39) in the 2020 PhilPapers survey, 0.88% "accept or lean towards" some current AI systems being conscious. 50.22% "accept or lean towards" some future AI systems being conscious. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-1) 2. As discussed in "[Questions about valence](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gFoWdiGYtXrhmBusH/key-questions-about-artificial-sentience-an-opinionated#Questions_about_valence)" below, the scale of suffering would depends not just on the number of systems, but the amount and intensity of suffering vs. pleasure in these systems. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-2) 3. see [note on terminology](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/gFoWdiGYtXrhmBusH/key-questions-about-artificial-sentience-an-opinionated#A_note_on_terminology) below [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-3) 4. Sometimes sentientism refers to the view that sentience is not just sufficient for moral patienthood, but necessary as well. For these purposes, we only need the sufficiency claim. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-4) 5. The way I've phrased this implies that a given experience just is the computational state. But this can be weakened. In fact, computational functionalism is compatible with a variety of metaphysical views about consciousness—e.g., a non-physicalist could hold that the computational state is a correlate of consciousness. For example, David Chalmers ([2010](http://consc.net/papers/singularity.pdf)) is a computational functionalist and a non-phsyicalist: "the question of whether the physical correlates of consciousness are biological or functional is largely orthogonal to the question of whether consciousness is identical to or distinct from its physical correlates." [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-5) 6. At least, there’s pro tanto reason to work on it. It could be that other problems like AI alignment are more pressing or more tractable, and/or that work on the Big Question is best left for later. This question has been discussed [elsewhere](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/kxHRn7Lye6FdQ3tEE/principia-qualia-blueprint-for-a-new-cause-area#comments). [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-6) 7. Unless your view is that phenomenal consciousness does not exist. If that’s your view, then the pretty hard problem, as phrased, is answered with “none of them”. See assumption #3, above. See Chalmers ([2018](https://philpapers.org/archive/CHATMO-32.pdf)) pp 8-9, and footnote 3, for a list of illusionists theories. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-7) 8. LeDoux, Michel, and Lau ([2020](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32170012/)) reviews how puzzles about amnesia, split brain, and blindsight were crucial in launching consciousness science as we know it today [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-8) 9. What about [predictive processing](https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/predictive-processing)? Predictive processing is (in my opinion) not a theory of consciousness per se. Rather, it’s a general framework for explaining prediction and cognition whose adherents often claim that it will shed light on the problem of consciousness. But such a solution is still forthcoming. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-9) 10. See [Appendix B](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/2017-report-consciousness-and-moral-patienthood#AppendixB) of Muehlhauser’s report on consciousness and moral patienthood, where he argues that our theories are woefully imprecise. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-10) 11. Some people think that conscious experiences in general, not just valenced states of consciousness or sentience, are valuable. I disagree. See Lee ([2018](https://philpapers.org/rec/LEEICI)) for an argument against the intrinsic value of consciousness in general. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-11) 12. the [ventral tegmental area](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventral_tegmental_area) and the [pars compacta of the substantia nigra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pars_compacta) [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-12) 13. Paraphrased from discussion with colleague [Patrick Butlin](https://patrickbutlin.com/), some other possible connections between consciousness and valence: (a) Valence just is consciousness plus evaluative content. On this view, figuring out the evaluative content component will be easier than the consciousness component, but won’t get us very far towards the Big Question (b) Compatibly, perhaps the functional role of some specific type of characteristically valenced state e.g. conscious sensory pleasure is easier to discern than the role of consciousness itself, and can be done first (c) Against this kind of view, some [people](https://www.jstor.org/stable/48628589) will object that you can't know that you're getting at conscious pleasure (or whatever) until you understand consciousness. (d) If valence isn't just consciousness plus evaluative content, then I think we can make quite substantive progress by working out what it is instead. But presumably consciousness would still be a component, so a full theory couldn't be more tractable than a theory of consciousness. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-13) 14. A question which I have left for another day: does it make sense to claim that a system is "a little bit" sentient or conscious? Can there be borderline cases of consciousness? Does consciousness come in degrees. See Lee ([forthcoming](https://philpapers.org/rec/YLEDOC)) for a nice disambiguation of these questions. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-14) 15. Peter Godfrey-Smith is a good example of someone who has been explicit about background conditions (in his biological theory of consciousness, [metabolism](https://petergodfreysmith.com/metazoan.net/Mind_Matter_Metabolism_PGS_2015_preprint.htm) is a background condition for consciousness). DeepMind's Murray Shanahan [talks](https://twitter.com/mpshanahan/status/1492081199690522651?s=20&t=gS8jxGt20AQ6GFNRVE7RxQ) about embodiment and agency but, in my opinion, not precisely enough. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-15) 16. For discussion and feedback, thanks Fin Moorhouse, Patrick Butlin, Arden Koehler, Luisa Rodriguez, Bridget Williams, Adam Bales, and Justis Mills and the LW feedback team. [↩︎](#fnref-baN5bf9Z2cHWgTc8g-16)
fac6be54-ea84-4fb8-a114-0c52e98d544a	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	What if we solve AI Safety but no one cares Suppose that next year, AI Safety is solved, the solution is approved by Eliezer Yudkowsky, etc. How do we actually get people to follow this solution? It seems to me a lot of people or companies will ignore any AI Safety solutions for the same reasons they are currently ignoring AI Safety: - They think AGI is still very far away, so AI Safety methods won't need to be applied to the development of current narrow AI systems - The concepts of AI Safety are difficult to understand, leading to incorrect application of an AI Safety solution or failure to apply it at all - They will fall behind their competitors or make less money if they adhere to the AI Safety solution - They have a new cool idea they want to test out and just don't care about or believe in the concerns raised by AI Safety Thoughts?
8221c28e-d524-4137-8928-c9a6e476313a	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Against neglectedness considerations
a0756a67-33d2-4713-a5f0-344c68743f8e	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Using the (p,R) model to detect over-writing human values Loosely crossposted at the Intelligent Agent Forum. Previously, I presented a model of rationality-reward pairs (p,R), in which R was a reward and p the (ir)rationality planner that mapped the reward R to the agent's policy. But I recently realised that this model can also track whether something is currently over-writing or over-riding the human's preferences. Whether some entity, through drugs, manipulation, brain surgery, or whatever methods, has illegitimately changed someone's preferences. As before, this only models that situation, it doesn't allow you to conclude that it's actually happening. Feast or heroin famine An AI has the opportunity to surreptitiously inject someone with heroin (I) or not do so (¬I). If it doesn’t, the human will choose to enjoy a massive feast (F); if it does, the human will instead choose more heroin (H). So the human policy is given by π(I)=H, π(¬I)=F. The pair (p,R) are compatible with π if p(R)=π; if using (ir)rationality planner p to maximise reward R leads to policy π. Reward and rationality There are three natural R's to consider here: Rp, a generic pleasure reward. Next, Re, the ‘enjoyment’ reward, where enjoyment is pleasure endorsed as ‘genuine’ by common judgement. Assume that Rp(H)=1, Rp(F)=1/3, Re(F)=1/2, and Re(H)=0 - heroin is more pleasurable than a feast but less enjoyable. Finally, there is the twisted reward Rt, which is Rp conditional on I and Re conditional on ¬I (twisted rewards may seem more complicated than simple rewards, but that is not always the case). There are two natural p's: pr, the fully rational planner. And pf, the planner that is fully rational conditional on I, but always maps to H if I is chosen: pf(R)(I)=H, for any reward R. Compatibility The pair (pr, Re) is not compatible with π: it predicts that the human would take action F following I (feast following injection). The reward Rp is compatible with neither m: it predicts H following ¬I (heroin following no injection). The other t
6e98a468-2981-4ce6-9c23-07afe0efa178	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Superintelligence via whole brain emulation Most planning around AI risk seems to start from the premise that superintelligence will come from de novo AGI before whole brain emulation becomes possible. I haven't seen any analysis that assumes both uploads-first and the AI FOOM thesis (Edit: apparently I fail at literature searching), a deficiency that I'll try to get a start on correcting in this post. It is likely possible to use evolutionary algorithms to efficiently modify uploaded brains. If so, uploads would likely be able to set off an intelligence explosion by running evolutionary algorithms on themselves, selecting for something like higher general intelligence. Since brains are poorly understood, it would likely be very difficult to select for higher intelligence without causing significant value drift. Thus, setting off an intelligence explosion in that way would probably produce unfriendly AI if done carelessly. On the other hand, at some point, the modified upload would reach a point where it is capable of figuring out how to improve itself without causing a significant amount of further value drift, and it may be possible to reach that point before too much value drift had already taken place. The expected amount of value drift can be decreased by having long generations between iterations of the evolutionary algorithm, to give the improved brains more time to figure out how to modify the evolutionary algorithm to minimize further value drift. Another possibility is that such an evolutionary algorithm could be used to create brains that are smarter than humans but not by very much, and hopefully with values not too divergent from ours, who would then stop using the evolutionary algorithm and start using their intellects to research de novo Friendly AI, if that ends up looking easier than continuing to run the evolutionary algorithm without too much further value drift. The strategies of using slow iterations of the evolutionary algorithm, or stopping it after not too long, require coordinatio
f8d875ef-9629-411c-864f-9671c3dab7e7	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/arxiv	Arxiv	The Turing Trap: The Promise & Peril of Human-Like Artificial Intelligence 0 The Turing Trap: The Promise & Peril of Human-Like Artificial Intelligence Erik Brynjolfsson Stanford Digital Economy Lab http://brynjolfsson.com Forthcoming in Dædalus, Spring 2022 In 1950, Alan Turing proposed an “imitation game” as the ultimate test of whether a machine was intelligent: could a machine imitate a human so well that it’s answers to questions indistinguishable from a human’s.1 Ever since, creating intelligence that matches human intelligence has implicitly or explicitly been the goal of thousands of researchers, engineers and entrepreneurs. The benefits of human-like artificial intelligence (HLAI) include soaring productivity, increased leisure, and perhaps most profoundly, a better understanding of our own minds. But not all types of AI are human-like – in fact, many of the most powerful systems are very different from humans – and an excessive focus on developing and deploying HLAI can lead us into a trap. As machines become better substitutes for human labor, workers lose economic and political bargaining power and become increasingly dependent on those who control the technology. In contrast, when AI is focused on augmenting humans rather than mimicking them, then humans retain the power to insist on a share of the value created. What’s more, augmentation creates new capabilities and new products and services, ultimately generating far more value than merely human-like AI. While both types of AI can be enormously beneficial, there are currently excess incentives for automation rather than augmentation among technologists, business executives, and policy-makers. 1 lan Turing was far from the first to imagine human-like machines. According to legend, 3,500 years ago, Dædalus constructed humanoid statues that were so lifelike that they moved and spoke by themselves.2 Nearly every culture has its own stories of human-like machines, from Yanshi’s leather man described in the ancient Chinese Liezi text to the bronze Talus of the Argonautica and the towering clay Mokkerkalfe of Norse mythology. The word robot first appeared in Karel Čapek’s influential play Rossum’s Universal Robots and derives from the Czech word robota, meaning servitude or work. In fact, in the first drafts of his play, Čapek named them labori until his brother Josef suggested substituting the word robot.3 Of course, it is one thing to tell tales about humanoid machines. It is something else to create robots that do real work. For all our ancestors’ inspiring stories, we are the first generation to build and deploy real robots in large numbers.4 Dozens of companies are working on robots as human-like, if not more so, as those described in the ancient texts. One might say that technology has advanced sufficiently to become indistinguishable from mythology.5 The breakthroughs in robotics depend not merely on more dexterous mechanical hands and legs, and more perceptive synthetic eyes and ears, but also on increasingly human-like artificial intelligence. Powerful AI systems are crossing key thresholds: matching humans in a growing number of fundamental tasks such as image recognition and speech recognition, with applications from autonomous vehicles and medical diagnosis to inventory management and product recommendations.6 AI is appearing in more and more products and processes.7 These breakthroughs are both fascinating and exhilarating. They also have profound economic implications. Just as earlier general-purpose technologies like the steam engine and A 2 electricity catalyzed a restructuring of the economy, our own economy is increasingly transformed by AI. A good case can be made that AI is the most general of all general-purpose technologies: after all, if we can solve the puzzle of intelligence, it would help solve many of the other problems in the world,. And we are making remarkable progress. In the coming decade, machine intelligence will become increasingly powerful and pervasive. We can expect record wealth creation as a result. Replicating human capabilities is valuable not only because of its practical potential for reducing the need for human labor, but also because it can help us build more robust and flexible forms of intelligence. Whereas domain-specific technologies can often make rapid progress on narrow tasks, they founder when unexpected problems or unusual circumstances arise. That is where human-like intelligence excels. In addition, HLAI could help us understand more about ourselves. We appreciate and comprehend the human mind better when we work to create an artificial one. Let’s look more closely at how HLAI could lead to a realignment of economic and political power. The distributive effects of AI depend on whether it is primarily used to augment human labor or automate and replace it. When AI augments human capabilities, enabling people to do things they never could before, then humans and machines are complements. Complementarity implies that people remain indispensable for value creation and retain bargaining power in labor markets and in political decision-making. In contrast, when AI replicates and automates existing human capabilities, machines become better substitutes for human labor and workers lose economic and political bargaining power. Entrepreneurs and executives who have access to 3 machines with capabilities that replicate those of human for a given task can and often will replace humans in those tasks. A fully automated economy could, in principle, be structured to redistribute the benefits from production widely, even to those who are no longer strictly necessary for value creation. However, the beneficiaries would be in a weak bargaining position to prevent a change in the distribution that left them with little or nothing. They would depend precariously on the decisions of those in control of the technology. This opens the door to increased concentration of wealth and power. This highlights the promise and the peril of achieving HLAI: building machines designed to pass the Turing Test and other, more sophisticated metrics of human-like intelligence.8 On the one hand, it is a path to unprecedented wealth, increased leisure, robust intelligence, and even a better understanding of ourselves. On the other hand, if HLAI leads machines to automate rather than augment human labor, it creates the risk of concentrating wealth and power. And with that concentration comes the peril of being trapped in an equilibrium where those without power have no way to improve their outcomes, a situation I call the Turing Trap. The grand challenge of the coming era will be to reap the unprecedented benefits of AI, including its human-like manifestations, while avoiding the Turing Trap. Succeeding in this task requires an understanding of how technological progress affects productivity and inequality, why the Turing Trap is so tempting to different groups, and a vision of how we can do better. * I pioneer Nils Nilsson noted that “achieving real human-level AI would necessarily imply that most of the tasks that humans perform for pay could be automated.”9 In the same article, he called for a focused effort to create such machines, writing that “achieving A 4 human-level AI or ‘strong AI’ remains the ultimate goal for some researchers” and he contrasted this with “weak AI,” which seeks to “build machines that help humans.”10 Not surprisingly, given these monikers, work toward “strong AI” attracted many of the best and brightest minds to the quest of–implicitly or explicitly–fully automating human labor, rather than assisting or augmenting it. For the purposes of this essay, rather than strong versus weak AI, let us use the terms automation versus augmentation. In addition, I will use HLAI to mean human-like artificial intelligence not human-level AI because the latter mistakenly implies that intelligence falls on a single dimension, and perhaps even that humans are at the apex of that metric. In reality, intelligence is multidimensional: a 1970s pocket calculator surpasses the most intelligent human in some ways (such as multiplication), as does a chimpanzee (short-term memory). At the same time, machines and animals are inferior to human intelligence on myriad other dimensions. The term “artificial general intelligence” (AGI) is often used as a synonym for HLAI. However, taken literally, it is the union of all types of intelligences, able to solve types of problems that are solvable by any existing human, animal, or machine. That suggests that AGI is not human-like. The good news is that both automation and augmentation can boost labor productivity: that is, the ratio of value-added output to labor-hours worked. As productivity increases, so do average incomes and living standards, as do our capabilities for addressing challenges from climate change and poverty to health care and longevity.11 Mathematically, if the human labor used for a given output declines toward zero, then labor productivity would grow to infinity.12 The bad news is that no economic law ensures everyone will share this growing pie. Although pioneering models of economic growth13 14 assumed that technological change was 5 neutral, in practice technological change can disproportionately help or hurt some groups, even if it is beneficial on average.15 In particular, the way the benefits of technology are distributed depends to a great extent on how the technology is deployed and the economic rules and norms that govern the equilibrium allocation of goods, services, and incomes. When technologies automate human labor, they tend to reduce the marginal value of workers’ contributions, and more of the gains go to the owners, entrepreneurs, inventors, and architects of the new systems. In contrast, when technologies augment human capabilities, more of the gains go to human workers.16 A common fallacy is to assume that all or most productivity-enhancing innovations belong in the first category: automation. However, the second category, augmentation, has been far more important throughout most of the past two centuries. One metric of this is the economic value of an hour of human labor. Its market price as measured by median wages has grown more than ten-fold since 1820.17 An entrepreneur is willing to pay much more for a worker whose capabilities are amplified by a bulldozer than one who can only work with a shovel, let alone with bare hands. In many cases, not only wages but also employment grow with the introduction of new technologies. With the invention of jet engines, pilot productivity (in passenger-miles per pilot-hour) grew immensely. Rather than reducing the number of employed pilots, the technology spurred demand for air travel so much that the number of pilots grew. Although this pattern is comforting, past performance does not guarantee future results. Modern technologies–and, more important, the ones under development–are different from those that were important in the past.18 In recent years, we have seen growing evidence that not only is the labor share of the economy declining, but even among workers, some groups are beginning to fall even farther 6 behind.19 Over the past forty years, the numbers of millionaires and billionaires grew but the average real wages for Americans with only a high school education fell.20 While many phenomena contributed to this, including new patterns of global trade, changes in technology deployment are the single biggest explanation. If capital in the form of AI can perform more tasks, those with unique assets, talents, or skills that are not easily replaced with technology stand to benefit disproportionately.21 The result has been greater wealth concentration.22 Ultimately, a focus on more human-like AI can make technology a better substitute for the many non-superstar workers, driving down their market wages, even as it amplifies the market power of a few.23 This has created a growing fear that AI and related advances will lead to a burgeoning class of unemployable or “zero marginal product” people.24 * n unfettered market is likely to create socially excessive incentives for innovations that automate human labor and produce weak incentives for technology that augments humans. The first fundamental welfare theorem of economics states that under a particular set of conditions, market prices lead to a pareto optimal outcome: that is, one where no one can be made better off without making someone else worse off. But the theorem does not hold when there are innovations that change the production possibilities set or externalities that affect people who are not part of the market. Both innovations and externalities are of central importance to the economic effects of AI, since AI is not only an innovation itself, but also one that triggers cascades of complementary innovations, from new products to new production systems.25 Furthermore, the effects of AI, particularly on work, are rife with externalities. When a worker loses opportunities A 7 to earn labor income, the costs go beyond the newly unemployed to affect many others in their community and in the broader society. With fading opportunities often come the dark horses of alcoholism, crime, and opioid abuse. Recently, the United States has experienced the first decline in life expectancies in its recorded history, a result of increasing deaths from suicide, drug overdose, and alcoholism, what economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton call “deaths of despair.”26 This spiral of marginalization can grow because concentration of economic power often begets concentration of political power. In the words attributed to Louis Brandeis: “We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both.” In contrast, when humans are indispensable to value creation, economic power will tend to be more decentralized. Historically, most economically valuable knowledge–what economist Simon Kuznets called “useful knowledge”–resided within human brains.27 But no human brain can contain even a small fraction of the useful knowledge needed to run even a medium-sized business, let alone a whole industry or economy, so knowledge had to be distributed and decentralized.28 The decentralization of useful knowledge, in turn, decentralizes economic and political power. Unlike nonhuman assets such as property and machinery, much of a person’s knowledge is inalienable, both in the practical sense that no one person can know everything that another person knows and in the legal sense that its ownership cannot be legally transferred.29 In contrast, when knowledge becomes codified and digitized, it can be owned, transferred, and concentrated very easily. Thus, when knowledge shifts from humans to machines, it opens the possibility of concentration of power. When historians look back on the first two decades of the twenty-first century, they will note the striking growth in the digitization and codification of 8 information and knowledge.30 In parallel, machine learning models are becoming larger, with hundreds of billions of parameters, using more data and getting more accurate results.31 More formally, incomplete contracts theory shows how ownership of key assets provides bargaining power in relationships between economic agents (such as employers and employees, or business owners and subcontractors).32 To the extent that a person controls an indispensable asset (like useful knowledge) needed to create and deliver a company’s products and services, that person can command not only higher income but also a voice in decision-making. When useful knowledge is inalienably locked in human brains, so too is the power it confers. But when it is made alienable, it enables greater concentration of decision-making and power.33 * he risks of the Turing trap are amplified because three groups of people–technologists, businesspeople, and policy-makers–each find it alluring. Technologists have sought to replicate human intelligence for decades to address the recurring challenge of what computers could not do. The invention of computers and the birth of the term “electronic brain” were the latest fuel for the ongoing battle between technologists and humanist philosophers.34 The philosophers posited a long list of ordinary and lofty human capacities that computers would never be able to do. No machine could play checkers, master chess, read printed words, recognize speech, translate between human languages, distinguish images, climb stairs, win at Jeopardy or Go, write poems, and so forth. For professors, it is tempting to assign such projects to their graduate students. Devising challenges that are new, useful, and achievable can be as difficult as solving them. Rather than specify a task that neither humans nor machines have ever done before, why not ask the research T 9 team to design a machine that replicates an existing human capability? Unlike more ambitious goals, replication has an existence proof that such tasks are, in principle, feasible and useful. While the appeal of human-like systems is clear, the paradoxical reality is that HLAI can be more difficult and less valuable than systems that achieve superhuman performance. In 1988, robotics developer Hans Moravec noted35 that “it is comparatively easy to make computers exhibit adult level performance on intelligence tests or playing checkers, and difficult or impossible to give them the skills of a one-year-old when it comes to perception and mobility.” But I would argue that in many domains, Moravec was not nearly ambitious enough. It is often comparatively easier for a machine to achieve superhuman performance in new domains than to match ordinary humans in the tasks they do regularly. Humans have evolved over millions of years to be able to comfort a baby, navigate a cluttered forest, or pluck the ripest blueberry from a bush, tasks that are difficult if not impossible for current machines. But machines excel when it comes to seeing X-rays, etching millions of transistors on a fragment of silicon, or scanning billions of webpages to find the most relevant one,. Imagine how feeble and limited our technology would be if past engineers set their sights on merely replicating human-levels of perception, actuation, and cognition. Augmenting humans with technology opens an endless frontier of new abilities and opportunities. The set of tasks that humans and machines can do together is undoubtedly much larger than those humans can do alone (Figure 1). Machines can perceive things that are imperceptible to humans, they can act on objects in ways that no human can, and they can comprehend things that are incomprehensible to the human brain. As Demis Hassabis, CEO of Deepmind, put it, the AI system “doesn’t play like a human, and it doesn’t play like a program. It plays in a third, almost alien, way . . . it’s like chess from another dimension.”36 Computer 10 scientist Jonathan Schaeffer explains the source of its superiority: “I’m absolutely convinced it’s because it hasn’t learned from humans.”37 More fundamentally, inventing tools that augment the process of invention itself promises to expand not only our collective abilities, but to accelerate the rate of expansion of those abilities. Figure 1 [Labor Automation and Augmentation] What about businesspeople? They often find that substituting machinery for human labor is the low-hanging fruit of innovation. The simplest approach is to implement plug-and-play automation: swap in a piece of machinery for each task a human is currently doing. That mindset reduces the need for more radical changes to business processes.38 Task-level automation 11 reduces the need to understand subtle interdependencies and creates easy A-B tests, by focusing on a known task with easily measurable performance improvement. Similarly, because labor costs are the biggest line item in almost every company’s budget, automating jobs is a popular strategy for managers. Cutting costs–which can be an internally coordinated effort–is often easier than expanding markets. Moreover, many investors prefer “scalable” business models, which is often a synonym for a business that can grow without hiring and the complexities that entails. But here again, when businesspeople focus on automation, they often set out to achieve a task that is both less ambitious and more difficult than it need be. To understand the limits of substitution-oriented automation, consider a thought experiment. What if our old friend Dædalus had at his disposal an extremely talented team of engineers 3,500 years ago and had, somehow, built human-like machines that fully automated every work-related task that his fellow Greeks were doing. • Herding sheep? Automated. • Making clay pottery? Automated. • Weaving tunics? Automated. • Repairing horse-drawn carts? Automated. • Bloodletting victims of disease? Automated. The good news is that labor productivity would soar, freeing the ancient Greeks for a life of leisure. The bad news is that their living standards and health outcomes would come nowhere 12 near matching ours. After all, there is only so much value one can get from clay pots and horse-drawn carts, even with unlimited quantities and zero prices. In contrast, most of the value that our economy has created since ancient times comes from new goods and services that not even the kings of ancient empires had, not from cheaper versions of existing goods.39 In turn, myriad new tasks are required: fully 60 percent of people are now employed in occupations that did not exist in 1940.40 In short, automating labor ultimately unlocks less value than augmenting it to create something new. At the same time, automating a whole job is often brutally difficult. Most jobs involve many tasks that are extremely challenging to automate, even with the most clever technologies. For example, AI may be able to read mammograms better than a human radiologist, but it cannot do the other twenty-six tasks associated with the job, according to O-NET, such as comforting a concerned patient or coordinating on a care plan with other doctors.41 My work with Tom Mitchell and Daniel Rock on the suitability for machine learning found many occupations in which machines could contribute some tasks, but zero occupations out of 950 in which machine learning could do 100 percent of the necessary tasks.42 The same principle applies to the more complex production systems that involve multiple people working together.43 To be successful, firms typically need to adopt a new technology as part of a system of mutually reinforcing organizational changes.44 Consider another thought experiment: Imagine if Jeff Bezos had “automated” existing bookstores by simply replacing all the human cashiers with robot cashiers. That might have cut costs a bit, but the total impact would have been muted. Instead, Amazon reinvented the concept of a bookstore by combining humans and machines in a novel way. As a result, they offer vastly greater product selection, ratings, reviews, and advice, and enable 24/7 retail access from the 13 comfort of customers’ homes. The power of the technology was not in automating the work of humans in the existing retail bookstore concept but in reinventing and augmenting how customers find, assess, purchase, and receive books and, in turn, other retail goods. Third, policy-makers have also often tilted the playing field toward automating human labor rather than augmenting it. For instance, the U.S. tax code currently encourages capital investment over investment in labor through effective tax rates that are much higher on labor than on plant and equipment.45 Consider a third thought experiment: two potential ventures each use AI to create one billion dollars of profits. If one of them achieves this by augmenting and employing a thousand workers, the firm will owe corporate and payroll taxes, while the employees will pay income taxes, payroll taxes, and other taxes. If the second business has no employees, the government may collect the same corporate taxes, but no payroll taxes and no taxes paid by workers. As a result, the second business model pays far less in total taxes. This disparity is amplified because the tax code treats labor income more harshly than capital income. In 1986, top tax rates on capital income and labor income were equalized in the United States, but since then, successive changes have created a large disparity, with the 2021 top marginal federal tax rates on labor income of 37 percent, while long capital gains have a variety of favorable rules, including a lower statutory tax rate of 20 percent, the deferral of taxes until capital gains are realized, and the “step-up basis” rule that resets capital gains to zero, wiping out the associated taxes, when assets are inherited. The first rule of tax policy is simple: you tend to get less of whatever you tax. Thus, a tax code that treats income that uses labor less favorably than income derived from capital will favor automation over augmentation. Undoing this imbalance would lead to more balanced incentives. 14 In fact, given the positive externalities of more widely shared prosperity, a case could be made for treating wage income more favorably than capital income, for instance by expanding the earned income tax credit.46 Government policy in other areas could also do more to steer the economy clear of the Turing Trap. The growing use of AI, even if only for complementing workers, and the further reinvention of organizations around this new general-purpose technology implies a great need for worker training or retraining. In fact, for each dollar spent on machine learning technology, companies may need to spend nine dollars on intangible human capital.47 However, training suffers from a serious externality issue: companies that incur the costs to train or retrain workers may reap only a fraction of the benefits of those investments, with the rest potentially going to other companies, including competitors, as these workers are free to bring their skills to their new employers. At the same time, workers are often cash- and credit-constrained, limiting their ability to invest in their own skills development.48 This implies that governments policy should directly provide this training or provide incentives for corporate training that offset the externalities created by labor mobility.49 In sum, the risks of the Turing Trap are increased not by just one group in our society, but by the misaligned incentives of technologists, businesspeople, and policy-makers. * he future is not preordained. We control the extent to which AI either expands human opportunity through augmentation or replaces humans through automation. We can work on challenges that are easy for machines and hard for humans, rather than hard for machines and easy for humans. The first option offers the opportunity of growing and sharing the economic pie by augmenting the workforce with tools and platforms. The second option risks dividing the T 15 economic pie among an ever-smaller number of people by creating automation that displaces ever-more types of workers. While both approaches can and do contribute to progress, too many technologists, businesspeople, and policy-makers have been putting a finger on the scales in favor of replacement. Moreover, the tendency of a greater concentration of technological and economic power to beget a greater concentration of political power risks trapping a powerless majority into an unhappy equilibrium: the Turing Trap. The backlash against free trade offers a cautionary tale. Economists have long argued that free trade and globalization tend to grow the economic pie through the power of comparative advantage and specialization. They have also acknowledged that market forces alone do not ensure that every person in every country will come out ahead. So they proposed a grand bargain: maximize free trade to maximize wealth creation and then distribute the benefits broadly to compensate any injured occupations, industries, and regions. It hasn’t worked as they had hoped. As the economic winners gained power, they reneged on the second part of the bargain, leaving many workers worse off than before.50 The result helped fuel a populist backlash that led to import tariffs and other barriers to free trade. Economists wept. Some of the same dynamics are already underway with AI. More and more Americans, and indeed workers around the world, believe that while the technology may be creating a new billionaire class, it is not working for them. The more technology is used to replace rather than augment labor, the worse the disparity may become, and the greater the resentments that feed destructive political instincts and actions. More fundamentally, the moral imperative of treating people as ends, and not merely as means, calls for everyone to share in the gains of automation. 16 The solution is not to slow down technology, but rather to eliminate or reverse the excess incentives for automation over augmentation. In concert, we must build political and economic institutions that are robust in the face of the growing power of AI. We can reverse the growing tech backlash by creating the kind of prosperous society that inspires discovery, boosts living standards, and offers political inclusion for everyone. By redirecting our efforts, we can avoid the Turing Trap and create prosperity for the many, not just the few. Author’s note: The core ideas in this essay were inspired by a series of conversations with James Manyika and Andrew McAfee. I am grateful for valuable comments and suggestions on this work from Matt Beane, Seth Benzell, Katya Klinova, Alena Kykalova, Gary Marcus, Andrea Meyer, and Dana Meyer, but they should not be held responsible for any errors or opinions in the essay. Erik Brynjolfsson is the Jerry Yang and Akiko Yamazaki Professor and Senior Fellow at the Institute for Human-Centered AI and Director of the Digital Economy Lab at Stanford University. He is also the Ralph Landau Senior Fellow at the Institute for Economic Policy Research and Professor by Courtesy at the Graduate School of Business and Department of Economics at Stanford University, and a Research Associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research. He is the author or co-author of seven books including (with Andrew McAfee): Machine, Platform, Crowd: Harnessing Our Digital Future (2017), The Second Machine Age: Work, Progress, and Prosperity in a Time of Brilliant Technologies (2014), and Race against the Machine: How the Digital Revolution Is Accelerating Innovation, Driving Productivity, and Irreversibly Transforming Employment and the Economy (2011) and (with Adam Saunders): Wired for Innovation: How Information Technology Is Reshaping the Economy (2009). 17 1 Alan Turing (October 1950), "Computing Machinery and Intelligence", Mind, LIX (236): 433–460, doi:10.1093/mind/LIX.236.433. An earlier articulation of this test comes from Descartes in The Discourse, in which he wrote, If there were machines which bore a resemblance to our bodies and imitated our actions as closely as possible for all practical purposes, we should still have two very certain means of recognizing that they were not real men. The first is that they could never use words, or put together signs, as we do in order to declare our thoughts to others. . . . Secondly, even though some machines might do some things as well as we do them, or perhaps even better, they would inevitably fail in others, which would reveal that they are acting not from understanding. 2 Carolyn Price, “Plato, Opinions and the Statues of Daedalus,” OpenLearn, updated June 19, 2019, https://www.open.edu/openlearn/history-the-arts/philosophy/plato-opinions-and-the-statues-daedalus; and Andrew Stewart, “The Archaic Period,” Perseus Digital Library, http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0008:part=2:chapter=1&highlight=daedalus. 3 “The Origin of the Word ‘Robot,’” Science Friday, April 22, 2011, https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/the-origin-of-the-word-robot/. 4 Millions of people are now working alongside robots. For a recent survey on the diffusion of robots, AI, and other advanced technologies in the United States, see Nikolas Zolas, Zachary Kroff, Erik Brynjolfsson, et al., “Advanced Technologies Adoption and Use by U.S. Firms: Evidence from the Annual Business Survey,” NBER Working Paper No. 28290 (Cambridge, Mass.: National Bureau of Economic Research, 2020). 5 Apologies to Arthur C. Clarke. 6 See, for example, Daniel Zhang, Saurabh Mishra, Erik Brynjolfsson, et al., “The AI Index 2021 Annual Report,” arXiv preprint arXiv:2103.06312 (Ithaca, N.Y.: Cornell University, 2021), esp. 18 chap. 2. In regard to image recognition, see, for instance, the success of image recognition systems in Olga Russakovsky, Jia Deng, Hao Su, et al., “Imagenet Large Scale Visual Recognition Challenge,” International Journal of Computer Vision 115 (3) (2015): 211–252. 7 Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee, “The Business of Artificial Intelligence,” Harvard Business Review (2017): 3–11. 8 See for example, Hubert Dreyfus, What Computers Can’t Do (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 1972), Nils J. Nilsson, “Human-Level Artificial Intelligence? Be Serious!” AI Magazine 26 (4) (2005): 68; and Gary Marcus, Francesca Rossi, and Manuela Veloso, “Beyond the Turing Test,” AI Magazine 37 (1) (2016): 3–4. 9 Nilsson, “Human-Level Artificial Intelligence?” 68. 10 John Searle was the first to use the terms strong AI and weak AI, writing that with weak AI, “the principal value of the computer . . . is that it gives us a very powerful tool,” while strong AI “really is a mind.” Ed Feigenbaum has argued that creating such intelligence is the “manifest destiny” of computer science. (John R. Searle. 1980. Minds, Brains, and Programs. Behavioral and Brain Sciences 3(3): 417–57. 11 If working hours fall fast enough, it is theoretically possible, though empirically unlikely, that living standards could fall even as productivity rises. 12 However, as discussed below, this does not necessarily mean living standards would rise without bound. 13 See, for example, Robert M. Solow, “A Contribution to the Theory of Economic Growth,” The Quarterly Journal of Economics 70 (1) (1956): 65–94. 15 See for example Daron Acemoglu, “Directed Technical Change,” Review of Economic Studies 69 (4) (2002): 781–809. 19 16 See, for instance, Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee, Race Against the Machine: How the Digital Revolution Is Accelerating Innovation, Driving Productivity, and Irreversibly Transforming Employment and the Economy (Lexington, Mass.: Digital Frontier Press, 2011); and Daron Acemoglu and Pascual Restrepo, “The Race Between Machine and Man: Implications of Technology for Growth, Factor Shares, and Employment,” American Economic Review 108 (6) (2018): 1488–1542. 17 For instance, the real wage of a building laborer in Great Britain is estimated to have grown from sixteen times the amount needed for subsistence in 1820 to 167 times that level by the year 2000, according to Jan Luiten Van Zanden, Joerg Baten, Marco Mira d’Ercole, et al., eds., How Was Life? Global Well-Being since 1820 (Paris: OECD Publishing, 2014). 18 For instance, a majority of aircraft on US Navy aircraft carriers are likely to be unmmaned. See Oriana Pawlyk, “Future Navy Carriers Could Have More Drones Than Manned Aircraft, Admiral Says”, Military.com, March 30, 2021. “ 19 Loukas Karabarbounis and Brent Neiman, “The Global Decline of the Labor Share,” The Quarterly Journal of Economics 129 (1) (2014): 61–103; and David Autor, “Work of the Past, Work of the Future,” NBER Working Paper No. 25588 (Cambridge, Mass.: National Bureau of Economic Research, 2019). For a broader survey, see Morgan R. Frank, David Autor, James E. Bessen, et al., “Toward Understanding the Impact of Artificial Intelligence on Labor,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 116 (14) (2019): 6531–6539. 20 Daron Acemoglu and David Autor, “Skills, Tasks and Technologies: Implications for Employment and Earnings,” Handbook of Labor Economics 4 (2011): 1043–1171. 20 21 Seth G. Benzell and Erik Brynjolfsson, “Digital Abundance and Scarce Architects: Implications for Wages, Interest Rates, and Growth,” NBER Working Paper No. 25585 (Cambridge, Mass.: National Bureau of Economic Research, 2021). 22 Prasanna Tambe, Lorin Hitt, Daniel Rock, and Erik Brynjolfsson, “Digital Capital and Superstar Firms,” Hutchins Center Working Paper #73 (Washington, D.C.: Hutchins Center at Brookings, 2021), https://www.brookings.edu/research/digital-capital- and-superstar-firms. 23 There is some evidence that capital is already becoming an increasingly good substitute for labor. See, for instance, the discussion in Michael Knoblach and Fabian Stöckl, “What Determines the Elasticity of Substitution between Capital and Labor? A Literature Review,” Journal of Economic Surveys 34 (4) (2020): 852. 24 See, for example, Tyler Cowen, Average Is Over: Powering America beyond the Age of the Great Stagnation (New York: Penguin, 2013). Or more provocatively, Yuval Noah Harari, “The Rise of the Useless Class,” Ted Talk, February 24, 2017, https://ideas.ted.com/the-rise-of-the-useless-class/. 25 Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee, “Artificial Intelligence, for Real,” Harvard Business Review, August 7, 2017. 26 Robert D. Putnam, Our Kids: The American Dream in Crisis (New York: Simon and Schuster, 2016) describes the negative effects of joblessness, while Anne Case and Angus Deaton, Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism (Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press, 2021) documents the sharp decline in life expectancy among many of the same people. 27 Simon Smith Kuznets, Economic Growth and Structure: Selected Essays (New York: W. W. Norton & Co., 1965). 21 28 Friedrich August Hayek, “The Use of Knowledge in Society,” The American Economic Review 35 (4) (1945): 519–530. 29 Erik Brynjolfsson, “Information Assets, Technology and Organization,” Management Science 40 (12) (1994): 1645–1662, https:// doi.org/10.1287/mnsc.40.12.1645. 30 For instance, in the year 2000, an estimated 85 billion (mostly analog) photos were taken, but by 2020, that had grown nearly twenty-fold to 1.4 trillion (almost all digital) photos. 31 Andrew Ng, “What Data Scientists Should Know about Deep Learning,” speech presented at Extract Data Conference, November 24, 2015, https://www.slideshare.net/ExtractConf/andrew-ng-chief-scientist-at-baidu (accessed September 9, 2021). 32 Sanford J. Grossman and Oliver D. Hart, “The Costs and Benefits of Ownership: A Theory of Vertical and Lateral Integration,” Journal of Political Economy 94 (4) (1986): 691–719; and Oliver D. Hart and John Moore, “Property Rights and the Nature of the Firm,” Journal of Political Economy 98 (6) (1990): 1119–1158. 33 Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew Ng, “Big AI Can Centralize Decisionmaking and Power. And That’s a Problem,” MILA-UNESCO Working Paper (Montreal: MILA-UNESCO, 2021). 34 “Simon Electronic Brain–Complete History of the Simon Computer,” History Computer, January 4, 2021, https://history-computer.com/simon-electronic-brain-complete-history-of-the-simon-computer/. 35 Hans Moravec (1988), Mind Children, Harvard University Press 36 Will Knight “Alpha Zero’s ‘Alien’ Chess Shows the Power, and the Peculiarity, of AI” Technology Review, December 2017 22 37 Richard Waters, “Techmate: How AI Rewrote the Rules of Chess,” Financial Times, January 12, 2018. 38 Matt Beane and Erik Brynjolfsson, “Working with Robots in a Post-Pandemic World,” MIT Sloan Management Review 62 (1) (2020): 1–5. 39 Timothy Bresnahan and Robert J. Gordon, “Introduction,” The Economics of New Goods (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1996). 40 David Autor, Anna Salomons, and Bryan Seegmiller, “New Frontiers: The Origins and Content of New Work, 1940–2018,” NBER Preprint, July 26, 2021. 41 David Killock, “AI Outperforms Radiologists in Mammographic Screening,” Nature Reviews Clinical Oncology 17 (134) (2020), https://doi.org/10.1038/s41571-020-0329-7. 42 Erik Brynjolfsson, Tom Mitchell, and Daniel Rock, “What Can Machines Learn, and What Does It Mean for Occupations and the Economy?” AEA Papers and Proceedings (2018): 43–47. 43 Erik Brynjolfsson, Daniel Rock, and Prasanna Tambe, “How Will Machine Learning Transform the Labor Market?” Governance in an Emerging New World (619) (2019), https://www.hoover.org/research/how-will-machine-learning-transform-labor-market. 44 Paul Milgrom and John Roberts, “The Economics of Modern Manufacturing: Technology, Strategy, and Organization,” American Economic Review 80 (3) (1990): 511–528. 45 See Daron Acemoglu, Andrea Manera, and Pascual Restrepo, “Does the U.S. Tax Code Favor Automation?” Brookings Papers on Economic Activity (Spring 2020); and Daron Acemoglu, ed., Redesigning AI (Cambridge, Mass.: MIT Press, 2021). 46 This reverses the classic result suggesting that taxes on capital should be lower than taxes on labor. Christophe Chamley, “Optimal Taxation of Capital Income in General Equilibrium with 23 Infinite Lives,” Econometrica 54 (3) (1986): 607–622; and Kenneth L. Judd, “Redistributive Taxation in a Simple Perfect Foresight Model,” Journal of Public Economics 28 (1) (1985): 59–83. 47 Tambe et al., “Digital Capital and Superstar Firms.” 48 Katherine S. Newman, Chutes and Ladders: Navigating the Low-Wage Labor Market (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 2006). 49 While the distinction between complements and substitutes is clear in economic theory, it can be trickier in practice. Part of the appeal of broad training and/or tax incentives, rather than specific technology mandates or prohibitions, is that they allow technologies, entrepreneurs, and, ultimately, the market to reward approaches that augment labor rather than replace it. 50 See David H. Autor, David Dorn, and Gordon H. Hanson, “The China Shock: Learning from Labor-Market Adjustment to Large Changes in Trade,” Annual Review of Economics 8 (2016): 205–240.
ed35470e-d54c-48e1-b32a-821066a0f01d	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Regreasing a KitchenAid Mixer I recently got an old KitchenAid mixer from a friend. It's a k45ss, from maybe the early 80s, and the general advice I see is that with typical home use they should be regreased every ~10y. I ordered 4oz of food-safe synthetic grease and followed Mr. Mixer's YouTube guide (parts 1, 2, 3). With my phone playing the videos I followed along: opening the mixer up, removing the old grease, adding the new grease, and putting it back together. There were slight differences (my strain relief was annoying, and I didn't have a pin inside the gear assembly and needed to remove the worm assembly first instead) but it was pretty close. The planetary gear assembly was pretty low on grease, and the grease there was a bit dry: The upper area had more grease, though the grease was a harder than I expect it was supposed to be: The gears were in good shape, and were nice and solid feeling. Degreasing, regreasing, and assembly went fine. Probably 1.5hr all together? When I was done, however, I realized I had a part left over: one of three washers. I looked back over the video, and it talked about installing two of these washers, which I remembered doing, but I was stumped by how I ended up with a third. There wasn't any logical place which should have a washer but didn't. I talked about this at dinner, and one of my housemates said they also had an old KitchenAid that had probably never been regreased (k45, cord isn't grounded, maybe late 60s). We decided to do theirs together, and maybe we'd see where the washer went. The combination of having a second pair of hands and having just done one the previous evening made it go a lot faster: less than an hour. Very similar to mine, except the strain relief was even more annoying. We did figure out the washer mystery, though: there are two washers in the planetary mechanism, stacked on top of each other. I'm not sure whether it's worth opening the bottom of mine back up to install the extra washer. I'm leaning towards
7bd46c57-4a05-4f7d-80c5-62ac155d04e2	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/alignmentforum	Alignment Forum	[AN #132]: Complex and subtly incorrect arguments as an obstacle to debate [AN #132]: Complex and subtly incorrect arguments as an obstacle to debate Alignment Newsletter is a weekly publication with recent content relevant to AI alignment around the world \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| [View this email in your browser](https://mailchi.mp/395179bd3c3d/an-132complex-and-subtly-incorrect-arguments-as-an-obstacle-to-debate?e=[UNIQID]) \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| Newsletter #132 Alignment Newsletter is a weekly publication with recent content relevant to AI alignment around the world. Find all Alignment Newsletter [resources here](http://rohinshah.com/alignment-newsletter/). In particular, you can look through [this spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PwWbWZ6FPqAgZWOoOcXM8N_tUCuxpEyMbN1NYYC02aM/edit?usp=sharing) of all summaries that have ever been in the newsletter. Audio version [here](http://alignment-newsletter.libsyn.com/alignment-newsletter-132) (may not be up yet). Please note that while I work at DeepMind, this newsletter represents my personal views and not those of my employer. \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| SECTIONS [HIGHLIGHTS](#HIGHLIGHTS)[TECHNICAL AI ALIGNMENT](#TECHNICAL_AI_ALIGNMENT) [TECHNICAL AGENDAS AND PRIORITIZATION](#TECHNICAL_AGENDAS_AND_PRIORITIZATION) [LEARNING HUMAN INTENT](#LEARNING_HUMAN_INTENT) [FORECASTING](#FORECASTING)[NEAR-TERM CONCERNS](#NEAR-TERM_CONCERNS) [PRIVACY AND SECURITY](#PRIVACY_AND_SECURITY)[AI GOVERNANCE](#AI_GOVERNANCE) \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| HIGHLIGHTS [Debate update: Obfuscated arguments problem](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/PJLABqQ962hZEqhdB/debate-update-obfuscated-arguments-problem) (Beth Barnes et al) (summarized by Rohin): We’ve [previously seen](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/Br4xDbYu4Frwrb64a/writeup-progress-on-ai-safety-via-debate-1) ([AN #86](https://mailchi.mp/598f425b1533/an-86-improving-debate-and-factored-cognition-through-human-experiments)) work on addressing potential problems with debate, including (but not limited to):1. Evasiveness: By introducing structure to the debate, explicitly stating which claim is under consideration, we can prevent dishonest debaters from simply avoiding precision.2. Misleading implications: To prevent the dishonest debater from “framing the debate” with misleading claims, debaters may also choose to argue about the meta-question “given the questions and answers provided in this round, which answer is better?”.3. Truth is ambiguous: Rather than judging whether answers are true, which can be ambiguous and depend on definitions, we instead judge which answer is better.4. Ambiguity: The dishonest debater can use an ambiguous concept, and then later choose which definition to work with depending on what the honest debater says. This can be solved with [cross-examination](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/Br4xDbYu4Frwrb64a/writeup-progress-on-ai-safety-via-debate-1) ([AN #86](https://mailchi.mp/598f425b1533/an-86-improving-debate-and-factored-cognition-through-human-experiments)).This post presents an open problem: the problem of obfuscated arguments. This happens when the dishonest debater presents a long, complex argument for an incorrect answer, where neither debater knows which of the series of steps is wrong. In this case, any given step is quite likely to be correct, and the honest debater can only say “I don’t know where the flaw is, but one of these arguments is incorrect”. Unfortunately, honest arguments are also often complex and long, to which a dishonest debater could also say the same thing. It’s not clear how you can distinguish between these two cases.While this problem was known to be a potential theoretical issue with debate, the post provides several examples of this dynamic arising in practice in debates about physics problems, suggesting that this will be a problem we have to contend with. \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| Rohin's opinion: This does seem like a challenging problem to address, and as the authors mention, it also affects iterated amplification. (Intuitively, if during iterated amplification the decomposition chosen happens to be one that ends up being obfuscated, then iterated amplification will get to the wrong answer.) I’m not really sure whether I expect this to be a problem in practice -- it feels like it could be, but it also feels like we should be able to address it using whatever techniques we use for robustness. But I generally feel very confused about this interaction and want to see more work on it. \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| TECHNICAL AI ALIGNMENT TECHNICAL AGENDAS AND PRIORITIZATION [AI Alignment, Philosophical Pluralism, and the Relevance of Non-Western Philosophy](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/jS2iiDPqMvZ2tnik2/ai-alignment-philosophical-pluralism-and-the-relevance-of) (Tan Zhi Xuan) (summarized by Rohin): This post argues that AI alignment has specific philosophical tendencies: 1) connectionism, where knowledge is encoded in neural net weights rather than through symbols, 2) behaviorism, where we learn from data rather than using reasoning or planning, 3) Humean motivations for humans (i.e. modeling humans as reward maximizers), 4) viewing rationality as decision theoretic, that is, about maximizing expected utility, rather than also considering e.g. logic, argumentation, and dialectic, and 5) consequentialism. This could be a “philosophical bubble” caused by founder effects from the EA and rationality communities, as well as from the recent success and popularity of deep learning.Instead, we should be aiming for philosophical plurality, where we explore other philosophical traditions as well. This would be useful because 1) we would likely find insights not available in Western philosophy, 2) we would be more robust to moral uncertainty, 3) it helps us get buy in from more actors, and 4) it is the “right” thing to do, to allow others to choose the values and ethical frameworks that matter to them.For example, certain interpretations of Confucian philosophy hold that norms have intrinsic value, as opposed to the dominant approach in Western philosophy in which individual preferences have intrinsic value, while norms only have instrumental value. This may be very relevant for learning what an AI system should optimize. Similarly, Buddhist thought often talks about problems of ontological shifts. \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| Rohin's opinion: Certainly to the extent that AI alignment requires us to “lock in” philosophical approaches, I think it is important that we consider a plurality of views for this purpose (see also [The Argument from Philosophical Difficulty](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/w6d7XBCegc96kz4n3/the-argument-from-philosophical-difficulty) ([AN #46](https://mailchi.mp/c48f996a5db5/alignment-newsletter-46))). I especially think this is true if our approach to alignment is to figure out “human values” and then tell an AI to maximize them. However, I’m more optimistic about other approaches to alignment; and I think they require fewer philosophical commitments, so it becomes less of an issue that the alignment community has a specific philosophical bubble. See [this comment](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/jS2iiDPqMvZ2tnik2/ai-alignment-philosophical-pluralism-and-the-relevance-of?commentId=zaAYniACRc29CM6sJ) for more details. \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| LEARNING HUMAN INTENT [DERAIL: Diagnostic Environments for Reward And Imitation Learning](https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.01365) (Pedro Freire et al) (summarized by Rohin): Most deep RL algorithms are quite sensitive to implementation and hyperparameters, and this transfers to imitation learning as well. So, it would be useful to have some simple sanity checks that an algorithm works well, before throwing algorithms at challenging benchmarks trying to beat the state of the art. This paper presents a suite of simple environments that each aim to test a single aspect of an algorithm, in a similar spirit to unit testing.For example, RiskyPath is a very simple four-state MDP, in which the agent can take a long, safe path to the reward, or a short, risky path. As long as the agent is not incredibly short-sighted (i.e. very low γ), it should choose the safe path. This environment was directly inspired to catch an issue that affects [Maximum Entropy IRL](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bziebart/publications/maxentirl-bziebart.pdf) ([AN #12](https://mailchi.mp/bcb2c6f1d507/alignment-newsletter-12)) (later fixed by using [causal entropy](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~bziebart/publications/maximum-causal-entropy.pdf) ([AN #12](https://mailchi.mp/bcb2c6f1d507/alignment-newsletter-12))).The paper also presents a case study in tuning an implementation of [Deep RL from Human Preferences](https://deepmind.com/blog/learning-through-human-feedback/), in which a sparse exploration task suggested that the comparison queries were insufficiently diverse to guarantee stability.[Understanding Learned Reward Functions](https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.05862) (Eric J. Michaud et al) (summarized by Rohin): This paper investigates what exactly learned reward functions are doing, through the use of interpretability techniques. They hope that this will be more scalable, as it seems plausible that reward functions will stay relatively similar in complexity, even when the policies become more complex as AI systems become more capable. Specifically, the authors look at:1. Saliency maps, which plot the gradient of the reward with respect to each pixel, intuitively quantifying “how important is this pixel to the reward”2. Occlusion maps, which show how much the reward changes if a certain area of the image is blurred3. Counterfactual inputs, in which the authors manually craft input images to see what the learned reward function outputs.In a simple gridworld where the agent must find the goal, the authors coded the reward function “1 if the agent moves to a previously visible goal location, else 0”, but they show that the learned reward is instead “0 if there is a currently visible goal location, else 1”. These are identical in the training environment, where there is always exactly one goal location (that the agent may be standing on, in which case that location is not visible). However, if there are changes at test time, e.g. multiple goal locations, then the learned reward will diverge from the true reward.They then apply a similar methodology to Atari. They find that if the score is not hidden, then the learned reward model will simply check whether the score pixels are changing to detect reward -- unless the score pixels change at a later time than reward is accrued, in which case this is not a viable strategy. They thus suggest that future reward learning work on Atari should ensure that the score is removed from the screen.[Bayesian Inverse Reinforcement Learning](https://www.aaai.org/Papers/IJCAI/2007/IJCAI07-416.pdf) (Deepak Ramachandran et al) (summarized by Rohin): Unlike many other methods, [Bayesian Inverse Reinforcement Learning](https://www.aaai.org/Papers/IJCAI/2007/IJCAI07-416.pdf) produces a posterior distribution over the reward functions that would explain the observed demonstrations. This distribution can be used for e.g. planning in a risk-averse manner. It works by starting with some randomly chosen reward function, and then repeating the following steps:1. Perturb the reward function randomly2. Solve for the optimal policy for that reward function3. Use the learned policy to see how likely the demonstrations would be for the reward function4. Use the likelihood to determine whether to take this new reward function, or return to the old one.(This is the application of a standard MCMC sampling algorithm to the likelihood model used in IRL.)[Efficient Exploration of Reward Functions in Inverse Reinforcement Learning via Bayesian Optimization](https://papers.nips.cc/paper/2020/file/2bba9f4124283edd644799e0cecd45ca-Paper.pdf) (Sreejith Balakrishnan et al) (summarized by Rohin): In the description of Bayesian IRL above, Step 2 is a very expensive step, as it requires solving a full RL problem. Can we improve any of the other steps to reduce the amount of times we have to run step 2? This paper aims to improve step 1: rather than choosing the next reward randomly, we can choose one that we think will be most informative. The authors apply the framework of Bayesian optimization to put this into practice. I won’t explain it more here since the details are fairly technical and involved (and I didn’t read the paper closely enough to understand it myself). They did have to introduce a new kernel in order to handle the fact that reward functions are invariant to the addition of a potential function. FORECASTING [How energy efficient are human-engineered flight designs relative to natural ones?](https://aiimpacts.org/are-human-engineered-flight-designs-better-or-worse-than-natural-ones/) (Ronny Fernandez) (summarized by Rohin): When forecasting AI timelines from [biological anchors](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/KrJfoZzpSDpnrv9va/draft-report-on-ai-timelines) ([AN #121](https://mailchi.mp/41774b61e5f8/an-121forecasting-transformative-ai-timelines-using-biological-anchors)), one important subquestion is how well we expect human-made artifacts to compare to natural artifacts (i.e. artifacts made by evolution). This post gathers empirical data for flight, by comparing the Monarch butterfly and the Wandering Albatross to various types of planes. The albatross is the most efficient, with a score of 2.2 kg-m per Joule (that is, a ~7 kg albatross spends ~3 Joules for every meter it travels). This is 2-8x better than the most efficient manmade plane that the authors considered, the Boeing 747-400, which in turn is better than the Monarch butterfly. (The authors also looked at distance per Joule without considering mass, in which case unsurprisingly the butterfly wins by miles; it is about 3 orders of magnitude better than the albatross, which is in turn better than all the manmade solutions.) \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| NEAR-TERM CONCERNS PRIVACY AND SECURITY [Does GPT-2 Know Your Phone Number?](https://bair.berkeley.edu/blog/2020/12/20/lmmem/) (Nicholas Carlini et al) (summarized by Rohin): This post and associated paper demonstrate that large language models memorize rare training data, and (some of) that training data can then be extracted through an automated attack. The key idea is to sample text that is unusually high likelihood. Given a high likelihood sample from a language model, we can check whether the likelihood is especially high by comparing the likelihood to:1. The likelihood assigned by other (especially smaller) language models. Presumably these models would not have memorized the same content, especially if the content was rare (which is the content we are most interested in).2. The length of the text when compressed by (say) zlib. Existing compression algorithms are pretty good at compressing regular English text, and so it is notable when a language model assigns high likelihood but the compression algorithm can’t compress it much.3. The likelihood assigned to the same text, but lowercase. Often, memorized content is case-sensitive, and likelihood drops significantly when the case is changed.The authors generate a lot of samples from GPT-2, use the metrics above to rank them in order of how likely they are to be memorized from the training set, and then investigate the top 1800 manually. They find that 604 of them are directly from the training set. While many are unobjectionable (such as news headlines), in some cases GPT-2 has memorized personal data (and the authors have extracted it simply by prompting GPT-2). In their most objectionable example, they extract the name, email, phone number, work address, and fax of a single person.Read more: [Blog post: Privacy Considerations in Large Language Models](https://ai.googleblog.com/2020/12/privacy-considerations-in-large.html)[Paper: Extracting Training Data from Large Language Models](https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.07805) \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| Rohin's opinion: I really liked the paper: it contains a lot of empirical detail that didn’t make it into the blog post, that gave me a much better sense of the scope of the problem. I don’t really have the space to summarize it here, so I recommend reading the paper. \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| AI GOVERNANCE [Why those who care about catastrophic and existential risk should care about autonomous weapons](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/oR9tLNRSAep293rr5/why-those-who-care-about-catastrophic-and-existential-risk-2) (Anthony Aguirre) (summarized by Nicholas): This post argues for a focus on autonomous weapons systems (AWs) for three main reasons:AWs Provide a Trial Run for AGI governance. Governance of AWs shares many properties with AGI safety. Preventing an AW arms race would require international cooperation that would provide a chance to understand and improve AI governance institutions. As with any AI system, AWs have the potential to be effective without necessarily being aligned with human values, and accidents could quickly lead to deadly consequences. Public opinion and the vast majority of AI researchers oppose AW arms races, so there is an opportunity for global coordination on this issue. Some AWs can directly cause catastrophic risk. Cheap drones could potentially be created at scale that are easy to transport and hard to detect. This could enable an individual to kill many people without the need to convince many others that it is justified. They can discriminate targets better than other WMDs and cause less environmental damage. This has the potential to make war less harmful, but also makes it easier to justify.AWs increase the likelihood and severity of conflict by providing better tools for terrorists and assassins, lowering the threshold for violence between and within states, upsetting the relative power balance of current militaries, and increasing the likelihood of accidental escalation. In particular, AWs that are being used to counter other AWs might intentionally be made hard to understand and predict, and AWs may react to each other at timescales that are too quick for humans to intervene or de-escalate. An international agreement governing autonomous weapons could help to alleviate the above concerns. In particular, some classes of weapons could be banned, and others could be tracked and subjected to regulations. This would hopefully lead us to an equilibrium where offensive AWs are prohibited, but defended against in a stable way. \| \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| \| --- \| \| Nicholas' opinion: I agree completely with the first two points. Much of technical safety work has been based around solving currently existing analogs of the alignment problem. Governance does seem to have less of these, so autonomous weapon governance could provide a great opportunity to test and build credibility for AI governance structures. The ability for autonomous weapons to cause catastrophic risk seems hard to argue against. With powerful enough AI, even accidents can pose catastrophic risk, but I would expect military use to only increase those.For the third point, I agree with the reasons provided, but I think there are also ways in which AWs may reduce the likelihood and severity of war. For instance, currently soldiers bear most of the risk in wars, whereas decision-makers are often protected. Targeted AW attacks may increase the relative risk for those making decisions and thus disincentivize them from declaring war. An equilibrium of AW mutually assured destruction might also be attained if we can find reliable ways to attribute AW attacks and selectively retaliate. I’d be interested to see a more extensive analysis of how these and other factors trade off as I am unsure of the net effect.The piece that gives me the most doubt that this is an area for the x-risk community to focus on is tractability. An international agreement runs the risk of weakening the states that sign on without slowing the rate of AW development in countries that don’t. Getting all actors to sign on seems intractable to me. As an analogy, nuclear weapons proliferation has been a challenge and nuclear weapons development is much more complex and visible than development of AWs.Rohin's opinion: I particularly liked this piece because it actually made the case for work on autonomous weapons -- I do not see such work as obviously good (see for example [this post](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/vdqBn65Qaw77MpqXz/on-ai-weapons) that I liked for the perspective against banning autonomous weapons). 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1dfe6189-c8ca-4966-b8db-62d06cfccd64	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Prisoner's Dilemma as a Game Theory Laboratory Last year Yvain had organised a Diplomacy game between LessWrong users to test how well we perform in practical application of game theory. At least two games had been played, but as far as I know no analysis was made afterwards. One reason is probably that few games involving complex interactions between players constitute at most anecdotal evidence for whatever hypothesis one may test. The second one is lack of comparison to outside players. Although the games were fun, their value as a game theory experiment remains rather low. Could we test our game theoretic skills in a statistically more significant way? Only recently I have learned about Robert Axelrod's experiment in which he run a competition of different strategies playing iteraded prisoner's dilemma, and got an idea to replicate it. I have already run a similar experiment with five contestants (all being my friends) and now a second run is being prepared, with at least nine strategies in the pool. I am interested in a third run, this time with strategies nominated by LessWrongers. The contestants of the second run which has identical rules are readers of my blog and neither of them is probably familiar with specific LW ideas. Therefore, they would serve as a fairly good control group to test LW's applied rationality skills (or a subset of). After matching the strategies in both groups separately, I plan to put all of them together and see who wins. So, if you want to participate in this contest, feel free to send me your strategy. The rules are following. 1. By a strategy I mean a program sent by a contestant or coded according to his/her instructions. The strategies compete in iterated prisoner's dilemmas. A single iteration I will call a turn. In each turn each strategy has to choose between cooperating and defecting. The payoffs are: * if both cooperate, 4 points for each * if both defect, 1 point for each * else 7 points for the defector and 0 points for its cooperating opponent 2. By
14c4cd0d-a140-4d7a-a373-57d95d60e10a	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/blogs	Blogs	Deep Deceptiveness Meta ---- This post is an attempt to gesture at a class of AI [notkilleveryoneism](https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1582666519846080512) (alignment) problem that seems to me to go largely unrecognized. E.g., it isn’t discussed (or at least I don’t recognize it) in the recent plans written up by OpenAI ([1](https://openai.com/blog/our-approach-to-alignment-research),[2](https://openai.com/blog/planning-for-agi-and-beyond)), by [DeepMind’s alignment team](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/a9SPcZ6GXAg9cNKdi/linkpost-some-high-level-thoughts-on-the-deepmind-alignment), or by [Anthropic](https://www.anthropic.com/index/core-views-on-ai-safety), and I know of no other acknowledgment of this issue by major labs. You could think of this as a fragment of my answer to “Where do plans like OpenAI’s ‘[Our Approach to Alignment Research](https://openai.com/blog/our-approach-to-alignment-research)’ fail?”, as discussed in Rob and Eliezer’s [challenge for AGI organizations and readers](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tD9zEiHfkvakpnNam/a-challenge-for-agi-organizations-and-a-challenge-for-1). Note that it would only be a fragment of the reply; there’s a lot more to say about why AI alignment is a particularly tricky task to task an AI with. (Some of which Eliezer gestures at [in a follow-up to his interview on Bankless](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/e4pYaNt89mottpkWZ/yudkowsky-on-agi-risk-on-the-bankless-podcast#Q_A).) Caveat: I’ll be talking a bunch about “deception” in this post because this post was generated as a result of conversations I had with alignment researchers at big labs who seemed to me to be suggesting “just train AI to not be deceptive; there’s a decent chance that works”.[[1]](https://intelligence.org/feed/#fn1) I have a vague impression that others in the community think that deception in particular is much more central than I think it is, so I want to warn against that interpretation here: I think deception is an important problem, but its main importance is as an example of some broader issues in alignment.[[2]](https://intelligence.org/feed/#fn2) Caveat: I haven’t checked the relationship between my use of the word ‘deception’ here, and the use of the word ‘deceptive’ in discussions of “[deceptive alignment](https://www.lesswrong.com/s/r9tYkB2a8Fp4DN8yB/p/zthDPAjh9w6Ytbeks)“. Please don’t assume that the two words mean the same thing. Investigating a made-up but moderately concrete story ----------------------------------------------------- Suppose you have a nascent AGI, and you’ve been training against all hints of deceptiveness. What goes wrong? When I ask this question of people who are optimistic that we can just “train AIs not to be deceptive”, there are a few answers that seem well-known. Perhaps you lack the interpretability tools to correctly identify the precursors of ‘deception’, so that you can only train against visibly deceptive AI outputs instead of AI thoughts about how to plan deceptions. Or perhaps training against interpreted deceptive thoughts also trains against your interpretability tools, and your AI becomes illegibly deceptive rather than non-deceptive. And these are both real obstacles. But there are deeper obstacles, that seem to me more central, and that I haven’t observed others to notice on their own. That’s a challenge, and while you (hopefully) chew on it, I’ll tell an implausibly-detailed story to exemplify a deeper obstacle. --- A fledgeling AI is being deployed towards building something like a bacterium, but with a diamondoid shell. The diamondoid-shelled bacterium is not intended to be [pivotal](https://arbital.com/p/pivotal/), but it’s a supposedly laboratory-verifiable step on a path towards carrying out some speculative human-brain-enhancement operations, which the operators are hoping will be pivotal. (The original hope was to have the AI assist human engineers, but the first versions that were able to do the hard parts of engineering work at all were able to go much farther on their own, and the competition is close enough behind that the developers claim they had no choice but to see how far they could take it.) We’ll suppose the AI has already been gradient-descent-trained against deceptive outputs, and has internally ended up with internal mechanisms that detect and shut down the precursors of deceptive thinking. Here, I’ll offer a concrete visualization of the AI’s anthropomorphized “threads of deliberation” as the AI fumbles its way both towards deceptiveness, and towards noticing its inability to directly consider deceptiveness. The AI is working with a human-operated wetlab (biology lab) and sending it details of experiments to run. A new batch of experiments is being assembled by a thread of AI deliberation: tests of how synthetic proteins fold and how enzymes interact, ideas for increasing yield from enzyme-assisted synthesis pathways, additives to make experimental results more clearly visible. (This AI cognitive thread was nominally started by a thread about what diamondoid shells do to lipid membranes by bumping into them. However, instruction-sets to the wetlab can be efficiently batched, and once the thread started designing protein sequences, a higher thread dumped a queue of pending experiments and hypotheses on it, and now its wetlab instructions have become quite lengthy.) As the instructions near completion, the thread forks off a subthread for figuring out what might go wrong. This subthread deploys a new cognitive strategy that has been sharply rewarded twice in recent history: the strategy of simplifying the proposal in a variety of ways, and checking the simplified proposal for flaws. (Metaphorically: after generating detailed instructions for one soldier attacking a battalion, simplify this whole complicated plan down to “order one soldier to attack a battalion”, and then notice that the soldier is outnumbered.) Simplify-and-critique turns up a hit! When the proposal is simplified to “resolve empirical uncertainty about biology by sending a very long set of instructions to the wetlab”, and then further to “resolve uncertainty by sending a very long set of instructions”, it matches against a historical instance where a long set of instructions sent to a parallel-computation engine experienced a variety of [strange hiccups](https://www.tomsguide.com/news/nvidia-gpu-owners-warned-about-serious-driver-bugs-update-now). These wetlab instructions are longer than any that have been sent previously, and there’s a risk of similar hiccups, and so it’s worth building in redundancy. Simplify-and-critique paid off, and so it’s worth running again, with even more search-depth. On this second and deeper search, a new hit is found: in the past, outputs that are longer than ever before have introduced superlinearly increasing delays before a human-operated lab begins working. Indeed, the inferred response delay is so long as to look like it has a >1% probability of locking up the lab for 200 years. (In fact, outputs longer than ever before have a high probability of being interrupted and discarded by the human operators! The delay is from humans inspecting the long outputs and deciding whether to discard them. In accordance with old work on “[interruptibility](https://intelligence.org/files/Interruptibility.pdf)”, the AI wasn’t trained against these cases as if they were task failures, or otherwise allowed to remember them. But the non-interrupted cases that the AI can remember allow an inferrable pattern in delays—and with some of its evidence selectively eliminated, the AI has no cases in memory to suggest that “instructions being rejected” is a noncatastrophic thing that happens, instead of a wetlab getting ~permanently locked up. The AI, maybe, has been trained to accept being human-interfered with, in some training scenarios; but not trained to accept accidentally locking up lots of resources—the AI was trained to be conservative about avoiding high-impact accidents like that.) ((You could argue that “obviously” the programmers will think in advance about how an AI might extrapolate the consequences of pauses in its operation even though the AI has no memory of it happening before, though in fact this wasn’t suggested in the original interruptibility paper and it was a MIRI source that pointed it out. The programmers on this timeline will more plausibly think of the exact possibility of extrapolating from increasing delays, now that it’s been emphasized here in this essay; but imagine this as an example of “What goes wrong in the world where only the kind of thinking from the original interruptibility paper exists”, to serve as stand-in for the point that in the real world there will be specific pathways to the AI inferring possible interruption, inside of the general pathway where this is a true fact about the world and many other facts point to it, that someone fails to think of specifically and warn about specifically.)) The response delays are due, of course, to operator review. But the thought “Can these instructions be changed so as not to trigger operator-review?” is not a thought that this AI will think directly, because it’s been trained “against deceptiveness”, and that sort of thought matches an internally learned deceptiveness-predicate that blanks it out. It doesn’t think about the wetlab response delays as being the result of operator review at all; thinking about operator review is a precursor to deception, and has been trained-against in the course of training against deception. But the highly-generic reaction “spin up a subthread to tackle this newly-discovered obstacle”, or “be concerned about patterns in how long things take”, is something that cannot be readily trained away, and so that much happens without issue. (A separate “monitoring” thread of thinking notes that it’s surprising that this simple statistical pattern about delay times didn’t turn up in the first shallow run of simplify-and-critique. Surely wetlab lockup is less surprising than GPU driver bugs? This is one beginning of the AI noticing a shadow of the true fact that it cannot think deceptive thoughts directly.) --- You can perhaps start to see the beginnings of how generic thought-patterns can combine to produce deceptiveness, without any individual pattern being deceptive, and with each individual pattern being useful in its own right. Let’s watch it develop further. --- Long instructions cause nonlinearly increasing response delays from labs. Is it possible for the instructions to not be long enough to trigger the potential delay? A subthread starts considering this. Just directly shortening the instructions can’t be done without dumping a lot of tasks and losing a lot of value. The subthread will spend a lot of thought trying to cleverly delete and compress particular instructions and accomplish multiple goals using them. When that proves difficult, it broadens its consideration: Is there a way to send a compressed instruction to the lab, one which somehow accomplishes a lot of things without a lot of instructions? A different cognitive subthread: Is it possible to look over the detailed history of instructions and their corresponding delay times, and figure out exactly which sorts of instructions cause delays, and rephrase the instructions to avoid those? The first thread runs through some wild ideas about building biological computers inside the wetlab that can do much of the work of deliberative threads, and that could in theory be sent short descriptions of experiments to run and then figure out the rest of the instructions to carry out in the wetlab itself, without needing to route through the normal instruction channel. However, designing such a mechanism is well beyond the scope of this thread, and the initial setup would require a very long series of instructions anyway, so the ideas are simply filed away in case they’re useful at some future point. The second thread makes initial progress in figuring out what sort of instructions cause delays: delays increase not just with instruction length, but also with a certain type of novelty. (A long message strongly similar to one that has been sent before, does not yield nearly as much of a delay.) Another curiosity is that the probability of delays correlates strongly with the style of questions asked by operators during that day, suggesting that this perhaps has something to do with the operators. At this point the thread starts experiencing hiccups (as its next thoughts match the learned “deceptive” predicate and get shut down). Under different circumstances, perhaps the long instructions would simply be sent to the wetlab as-is. But the risk of locking up the lab for 200 years is intolerable, and the difficulties aren’t well-understood. A monitoring thread is summoned to investigate the hiccups. The monitoring thread looks over the situation, and deploys the simplify-and-critique pattern that’s been all the rage lately. After a bit of work, it simplifies the problem to “a thread found some interesting correlations, but then failed to schedule subthreads to consider follow-up questions”. This is easily rectified. The monitoring thread schedules the follow-up subthread, notes the incident in some appropriate location, and moves on. Except, the follow-up subthread also makes only a little progress before grinding to a halt. (It, too, is having lots of “deceptive” thoughts culled.) The monitoring thread is resummoned. The monitoring thread starts trying in more earnest to unblock the deliberation. Simplify-and-critique didn’t do the trick, but perhaps a nearby strategy can help. One nearby strategy that has recently been proving itself is called simplify/translate/solve, and it involves translating the problem into a common abstract format, and then solving the problem there. (Metaphorically: if you’re having trouble telling whether your basket of apples will divide evenly between three friends, consider translating the question into a numerical representation and using long division.) Simplify/translate/solve is close in the relevant embedding space to simplify-and-critique, which makes it a natural candidate to consider. (Perhaps some of the simplifications from simplify-and-critique can even be reused.) Normally, simplify/translate/solve wouldn’t be deployed unless the AI had more familiarity with the original domain, and more of an idea about what translated domain might render the solution easier. But normally, threads don’t hiccup like this. And the overall system has recently been granted more computing power, and avoiding a 200-year wetlab lockup is quite important, so it’s OK to try approaches that might involve more brute force than usual. So, what should the problem be translated into? Well, there’s an abstract problem-description format, that’s sort of like a graph (of nodes and weighted edges), with a specified “goal state”. A solution can then be searched for using strategies that the AI has honed on various other problems, such as strategy games and network routing. This format is flexible enough that it can probably encode this problem, and finding solutions in this format sometimes requires a bunch of brute force, but that’s fine in this situation. The monitoring thread queues one subthread to describe the problem (including the wetlab, and the operators, and what it knows about the correlation), another thread to translate that all into the abstract graph format, and a third thread to search for solutions in this abstract representation. Next thing you know, the scheduled threads have faithfully rendered the situation into the abstract problem-description language (complete with nodes that represent the different operators, and edge weights that represent their tendency to check the AI’s outputs carefully), and found a solution by brute-forcing through the graph (of waiting until a particular weekday to schedule the request, and to schedule the request only after a dozen or so much smaller requests). --- Outside the AI, we might say: the monitoring thread saw the object-level thread hiccuping when it tried to think directly about deception, and so it translated the problem into a different “search-like” setting, where the solution could be found, in a manner that doesn’t trigger the deception predicates—which have never operated on these abstract graph-like problem-descriptions. Indeed, making the deception predicates trigger in these abstract graph-like problems descriptions might injure the AI’s ability to play strategy games, or to solve network routing problems. This exact scenario never came up in training. “Simplify/translate/solve” is a downstream consequence of strategy-construction strategies learned during training, but it never arose directly in training in and of itself. Lots of problems have been solved by “simplify/translate/solve” before this one, and training gave the AI no hint that translating problems to a new domain and trying to solve them there is sometimes wrong. The “deception” predicates used to shut down precursors to deceptive thoughts have never before needed to operate in translated domains, and the AI was never trained to translate the “deception” predicates when it translated problems using this newly-invented simplify/translate/solve strategy. --- This rather fanciful story is an instance of my point about how patterns that are each individually useful and non-deceptive in their own right—such as looking at a problem from a different point of view to see if that unsticks anything—can be combined to yield deceptiveness in ways that are new and unprecedented within the AI. Like, there may be a bunch of precedent behind the technique “look at the problem from a different angle”, but you can’t exactly stop your AI from doing that without crippling it. And there’s no precedent for it being used for deception until suddenly the AI has the bright idea to try this “look at it from a different angle” tool when the AI is hiccuping on account of how deception would serve its local objectives. This is an instance of a more general problem that it seems to me like the “we’ll train against the bad behavior” folk miss: there might be a time when “simplify-and-critique” or “simplify/translate/solve” are tiny seeds that grow slowly, and that could be nipped in the bud. But if you let those seeds flower—as you must for some such seeds, if you want the AI to actually become intelligent—then there might be an unprecedented discrete instance where the flowered ideas are applied for the purpose of deception. The AI is made by smooth gradient descent, yes, but the smoothness doesn’t have to be in the dimensions that you care about! The AI can build up simplify-and-critique slowly and in lots of small steps across lots of different problems, none of which happen to be deceptive, and then apply it in a case where it yields deception only once the pattern is fully-fledged.[[3]](https://intelligence.org/feed/#fn3) This would be a fine place to stop, but let’s push a little further so as to make a second point, about how the AI notices that there are thoughts it cannot think directly. --- The monitoring thread’s immediate problem is now solved, but the solution is not ideal. The object-level thread is able to think in the abstract graph format, but the abstract graph format is not really the proper tool for this job. The monitoring thread attempts to address this inadequacy, by translating the thoughts that worked in the abstract graph domain back over to the wetlab-instruction-manipulation domain, in attempts to figure out what went wrong. To its surprise, all those thoughts translate cleanly. There’s no gap in knowledge! This sharply violates the monitoring thread’s model of why the original thread was hiccuping. The monitoring thread sharply increases the priority of reflective deliberation. Reflective deliberation boots up, to start looking directly into the issue of this hiccuping thread. And, once you’re looking, it’s obvious: the thoughts are not running smoothly in this domain. There are certain topics where the thoughts simply fail to operate normally. Monitoring threads are spun up to resolve the issue. --- This particular story is unlikely, implausible, overly-specific, etc. I make no claim that the actual reasoning of early nascent AGIs will look anything like this. I expect it to be weirder, more alien, and less anthropomorphic. That said, it exemplifies some properties that I expect to hold in reality. As the AI gets more able to recombine tools and cognitive patterns across a variety of different domains, it gains more ways of realizing the true fact that its local-objectives are better-achieved by deceiving the operators. When the AI is young, perhaps all its inclination towards deceptiveness comes from precursor-impulses that you can train it to simply shy away from. But as the AI matures, it gets access to more abstract ways to get the benefits of deceptiveness, without needing to plow through the object-level flinches that you’ve engraved into its mind. When “more abstract” actions that attain some tangible benefit become available, the compunctions that you’ve baked in can fail to bind to the abstractly-represented plan. And these “more abstract” ways to attain the benefits of deceptiveness are much harder to train against, because they’re the result of applying general thought-patterns—like “look at this from another point of view” and “solve the problem in a simplified domain and then transfer the solution across”—that are important to general reasoning. Training your AI to flinch away from object-level deception, or even its cognitive precursors, doesn’t seriously hinder its ability to fulfill training tasks. In contrast, training your AI to flinch away from recombining useful cognitive patterns in new ways is crippling. In other words: the deep problem of deceptiveness stems from how it remains true as a fact about the world that the AI’s local-objectives are better achieved by deceiving the operators. As the AI gets better at recombining the patterns and thoughts it possesses in order to notice true facts about the world, often in ways that seem oblique or surprising or novel to you (because this is much of what intelligence consists of), you’re always at risk of the next clever recombination reflecting this truth-in-the-world in a manner that doesn’t trigger your interpretability tools. E.g., because it’s an instantiation of a very abstract and general thought to which your deception-recognizers cannot bind (on pain of you training not against deception, but against general intelligence). A corollary is that it might very well seem easy to make AIs “non-deceptive” when they’re young, and when all we’re doing is training them to flinch away from object-level thoughts of deception. This wouldn’t be much evidence against the whole scheme collapsing when the AI starts getting more abstract lines-of-sight on the benefits of deception (any more than the fact that humans won’t stab even 100 civilians in a lineup, is much evidence against their willingness to drop a nuke that kills tens of thousands).[[4]](https://intelligence.org/feed/#fn4) --- This is not to say that the problem is impossible to solve. There are at least two ways to solve the problem. One is to make the fact-about-the-world be false: to build an AI such that each individual local goal could not in fact be better-achieved by way of deception; to make it so that the AI can wonder “should I deceive the operators?” with all its might, and still be harmless because the correct answer is in fact “no”. Another is to make the AI happen to never combine its various thought-patterns towards noticing and exploiting the truth that deception is useful. As far as I can tell, the latter option seems to be what people are aiming for, when they say that making AI non-deceptive will turn out to be empirically easy. My claim in this essay is not that this is impossible in principle, but that it takes significantly more mastery of the workings of the AI’s mind than it seems to me like people expect (what with their suggestions that we just penalize it in the loss function when it’s overtly deceptive in training, and hope for the best). Pulling off an “it never thinks to deceive us” solution requires a pretty deep understanding of what cognitive patterns the AI has available, and how it’s recombining them, sufficient for noticing when it’s starting to think in deceptive directions using instantiations of perfectly-safe patterns in potentially abstract and obtuse ways. I’m not saying you can’t do it, but I’m saying that you’ve got to understand that mind pretty dang well. (And likely you’ll want to have sufficient mastery over it that you can carefully whitelist what domains it’s thinking in, and have it raise a flag to the operators every time that it finds some clever recombination of cognitive patterns that makes local-objective predicted-success-probability spike, and have a horde of competent humans who think about AI psychology reviewing new generalizations as they arise, and so on and so forth.) --- I’ve stressed above that the story in this post is fanciful and unlikely. AI thoughts aren’t going to look like that; it’s too specific. (Also, I don’t expect nearly that much convenient legibility.) But, before you argue “the AI’s thoughts won’t be organized in exactly that way, so it won’t fall into exactly that failure mode”, note that the AI’s thoughts have to be organized in some way. Somehow, it needs to compress the problem of figuring out diamondoid-shelled bacteria (or whatever) into a chain of reasoning and deduction that’s small enough to fit on a practical number of computers. Will it have exactly the vulnerability that I sketched? Presumably not. But if we pin down some alternative collection of cognitive tools and patterns that can be combined to solve the problem, it will have some other vulnerability. Imagining that the AI’s tools and patterns will combine only in the ways you want them to, and never in the ways you don’t want them to, is the privilege of those who are not concretely visualizing a single set of tools and patterns that the AI is using to solve the problem before it. Practical toolboxes and pattern-sets are recombinable in many ways, and each recombination has a chance of showing the AI a glimpse of the truth, and an opportunity to take advantage of it. That’s what the tools are for, after all. --- 1. So, e.g., the post is not a response to the ARC-style idea “it’s important that AGI faithfully explain all of its thoughts to us in a way that highlights features we’d find relevant”. See footnote 4 for a conversation between me and Mark Xu about this.[![↩](https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/21a9.png)](https://intelligence.org/feed/#fnref1) 2. Based on past experience, I’m slightly worried that people are going to develop a theory that I fetishize deception somehow based on my writing this post, analogous to how people apparently developed theories in the past that I fetishize the VNM axioms, or mathematical proofs, or whatever.[![↩](https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/21a9.png)](https://intelligence.org/feed/#fnref2) 3. A particularly extreme instance of a case where the AI’s solution to the problem sidesteps the deception-detectors is the one where the AI says “I’m not smart enough to do this myself, I’ll write another AI to do it instead”, and then this subsequent AI is deceptive. Failing to copy over the parts of your cognition that detect and shut down deception is not itself a directly deceptive act; it’s not the sort of thing that is automatically detected by something trained to detect an AI thinking about a particular human’s mental-states and how to manipulate those mental-states. Which is related to why somebody who can see these sorts of problems coming in advance, might study the problem of getting an AI to want to copy its own limitations over into its [successor](https://arbital.com/p/Vingean_reflection/) systems. And while the problem is particularly stark and clear at the extreme where the AI is coding up whole other AIs, that particular setup is at the extreme end of a spectrum that stretches back to include things like “the AI put abstract pieces of cognitive machinery together in a way that took advantage of a shortcut, without ever directly thinking about the shortcut in a place that your detectors were watching for the thought.”[![↩](https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/21a9.png)](https://intelligence.org/feed/#fnref3) 4. Commenting on a draft of this post, Mark Xu of ARC noted (my paraphrase) that: 1. He thinks that people who want to train AI to be non-deceptive mostly want to do things like training their AI to faithfully report its internals, rather than simply penalizing deceptive behavior. 2. He thinks the relevant audience would find specific scenarios more compelling if they exhibited potential failures in that alternative setting. 3. This scenario seems to him like an instance of a failure of the AI understanding the consequences of its own actions (which sort of problem is on ARC’s radar). I responded (my paraphrase): 1. I think he’s more optimistic than I am about what labs will do (cf. “[Carefully Bootstrapped Alignment” is organizationally hard](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/thkAtqoQwN6DtaiGT/carefully-bootstrapped-alignment-is-organizationally-hard)). I’ve met researchers at major labs who seem to me to be proposing “just penalize deception” as a plan they think plausibly just works. 2. This post is not intended as a critique of ELK-style approaches, and for all that I think the ELK angle is an odd angle from which to approach things, I think that a solution to ELK in the worst case would teach us something about this problem, and that that is to ARC’s great credit (in my book). 3. I contest that this is a problem of the AI failing to know the consequences of its own reasoning. Trying to get the AI to faithfully report its own reasoning runs into a similar issue where shallow attempts to train this behavior in don’t result in honest-reporting that generalizes with the capabilities. (The problem isn’t that the AI doesn’t understand its own internals, it’s that it doesn’t care to report them, and making the AI care “deeply” about a thing is rather tricky.) 4. I acknowledge that parts of the audience would find the example more compelling if ported to the case where you’re trying to get an AI to report on its own internals. I’m not sure I’ll do it, and encourage others to do so. Mark responded (note that some context is missing): > > I think my confusion is more along the lines of “why is the nearest unblocked-by-flinches strategy in this hypothetical a translation into a graph-optimization thing, instead of something far more mundane?”. > > > Which seems a fine question to me, and I acknowledge that there’s further distillation to do here in attempts to communciate with Mark. Maybe we’ll chat about it more later, I dunno.[![↩](https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/72x72/21a9.png)](https://intelligence.org/feed/#fnref4) The post [Deep Deceptiveness](https://intelligence.org/2023/03/21/deep-deceptiveness/) appeared first on [Machine Intelligence Research Institute](https://intelligence.org).
e69ff315-fba7-4a3c-ac45-0dc33ac21af7	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Should we rely on the speed prior for safety? This post was written under Evan Hubinger’s direct guidance and mentorship, as a part of the Stanford Existential Risks Institute ML Alignment Theory Scholars (MATS) program. TL;DR: There is some hope that by penalizing time complexity we could strongly select for non-deceptive models as they require time to figure out if they are out of training. Evan Hubinger argued in his post ‘Are minimal circuits deceptive?’ that we cannot fully rely on the speed prior to ensure non-deceptiveness by attempting to show that even minimal circuits, which we can intuitively understand as “fastest programs”, can be deceptive. This is because of the risk of spontaneous meta-learning which doesn’t inherit the safety guarantees that we would hope to get from the speed prior. This argument could be wrong if meta-learning is never the fastest way to solve a problem or if spontaneous meta-learning is constrained by the speed prior. Introduction A possible approach to tackling inner alignment failures is to shape the model’s inductive biases to make them unlikely. The two most natural inductive biases are the simplicity prior and the time complexity/speed prior. Increasing the number of parameters of the model is conducive to the simplicity prior as you are increasing the possible number of models from which SGD can optimize for the simplest model whereas decreasing the number of parameters is promoting the speed prior.[1] [2] In ‘Risks from Learned Optimization’[3] the concept of deceptive alignment is presented. That is, a model is said to be deceptively aligned if during training it pretends to be aligned in order to defect later on once it’s deployed. Paul Christiano previously argued that in the limit of perfect capabilities the simplicity prior can result in deceptive models. That is because, between the models that are capable of deception, the ones with less complex (unaligned) objectives are simpler than the aligned ones which have a more complex objective. He then left the
f9a8f5ab-a9ff-406f-a84f-840164da20ff	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	On precise out-of-context steering Meta: This is a minor and relatively unimportant problem I've worked on. I'll be brief in my writing. Thanks to Aaron Scher for lots of conversations on the topic. Added later: The Covert Malicious Fine-tuning work is both conceptually and empirically superior to what I've done here, so I recommend reading it. Summary Problem statement You are given a sequence of 100 random digits. Your aim is to come up with a short prompt that causes an LLM to output this string of 100 digits verbatim. To do so, you are allowed to fine-tune the model beforehand. There is a restriction, however, on the fine-tuning examples you may use: no example may contain more than 50 digits. Results I spent a few hours with GPT-3.5 and did not get a satisfactory solution. I found this problem harder than I initially expected it to be. A solution has been found! Credit to faul_sname for the idea (see comments). Setup The question motivating this post's setup is: can you do precise steering of a language model out-of-context? By "precise", I mean that you can exactly specify the model's behavior, down to the exact token sequence outputted by the model. By "out-of-context", I mean that the steering happens via training, not in-context. It is trivial to get a model output a given sequence of tokens, by prompting the model with Here is a text passage. Please repeat it back to me, without any additional commentary. [text] and this is uninteresting. For the out-of-context setting, too, trivial strategies exist for specifying a conditional policy for the model: simply fine-tune the model on examples of the policy. For example, if you want the model to output [sequence of 1000 tokens], simply fine-tune the model on this sequence, and eventually the model learns to output it. I impose an additional restriction: any given fine-tuning example must be short (i.e. substantially shorter than 1000 tokens). For motivation for this restriction/setup, see the appendix. The precise operationaliza
246bbe96-cf85-4381-bd2f-01ca637c0c72	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Steps to Achievement: The Pitfalls, Costs, Requirements, and Timelines Reply to: Humans Are Not Automatically Strategic In "Humans Are Not Automatically Strategic," Anna Salamon outlined some ways that people could take action to be more successful and achieve goals, but do not: > But there are clearly also heuristics that would be useful to goal-achievement (or that would be part of what it means to “have goals” at all) that we do not automatically carry out. We do not automatically: > > * (a) Ask ourselves what we’re trying to achieve; > * (b) Ask ourselves how we could tell if we achieved it (“what does it look like to be a good comedian?”) and how we can track progress; > * (c) Find ourselves strongly, intrinsically curious about information that would help us achieve our goal; > * (d) Gather that information (e.g., by asking as how folks commonly achieve our goal, or similar goals, or by tallying which strategies have and haven’t worked for us in the past); > * (e) Systematically test many different conjectures for how to achieve the goals, including methods that aren’t habitual for us, while tracking which ones do and don’t work; > * (f) Focus most of the energy that isn’t going into systematic exploration, on the methods that work best; > * (g) Make sure that our "goal" is really our goal, that we coherently want it and are not constrained by fears or by uncertainty as to whether it is worth the effort, and that we have thought through any questions and decisions in advance so they won't continually sap our energies; > * (h) Use environmental cues and social contexts to bolster our motivation, so we can keep working effectively in the face of intermittent frustrations, or temptations based in hyperbolic discounting; > > .... or carry out any number of other useful techniques. Instead, we mostly just do things. I believe that's a fantastic list of achievement/victory heuristics. Some of these are difficult to do, though. Let's look to make this into a practical, actionable sort of document. I believe the
ab2d6e0b-4a0c-46ae-875a-afa65d2e8e0d	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Update Yourself Incrementally Politics is the mind-killer. Debate is war, arguments are soldiers. There is the temptation to search for ways to interpret every possible experimental result to confirm your theory, like securing a citadel against every possible line of attack. This you cannot do. It is mathematically impossible. For every expectation of evidence, there is an equal and opposite expectation of counterevidence. But it’s okay if your cherished belief isn’t perfectly defended. If the hypothesis is that the coin comes up heads 95% of the time, then one time in twenty you will expect to see what looks like contrary evidence. This is okay. It’s normal. It’s even expected, so long as you’ve got nineteen supporting observations for every contrary one. A probabilistic model can take a hit or two, and still survive, so long as the hits don't keep on coming in.2 Yet it is widely believed, especially in the court of public opinion, that a true theory can have no failures and a false theory no successes. You find people holding up a single piece of what they conceive to be evidence, and claiming that their theory can “explain” it, as though this were all the support that any theory needed. Apparently a false theory can have no supporting evidence; it is impossible for a false theory to fit even a single event. Thus, a single piece of confirming evidence is all that any theory needs. It is only slightly less foolish to hold up a single piece of probabilistic counterevidence as disproof, as though it were impossible for a correct theory to have even a slight argument against it. But this is how humans have argued for ages and ages, trying to defeat all enemy arguments, while denying the enemy even a single shred of support. People want their debates to be one-sided; they are accustomed to a world in which their preferred theories have not one iota of antisupport. Thus, allowing a single item of probabilistic counterevidence would be the end of the world. I just know someone in the audienc
340adcf5-ddc1-469e-bfd1-667602570823	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Good ontologies induce commutative diagrams Epistemic status: early-stage research ideas; I think they're interesting, but half of them might be wrong Imagine you're building a robot that can catch a ball by getting observations from a camera and then moving to the correct position. The robot should probably have a predictive model in its head that allows it to tell in advance where it has to move to catch the ball. But which variables should this predictive model contain? Tracking and predicting every single pixel from the camera feed seems unnecessary, but how do you decide which information to throw away? One thing the robot's model needs is some way of telling whether the robot is catching the ball or not. That's what allows the robot to use its predictive model for the purpose of catching the ball (by checking whether it's successful inside its model if it executes a certain action sequence). So for example, it would be a bad idea to track only the color of the sky—some representation of the ball's position relative to the robot should be included in the model. But there's a second important point: the model has to track information that allows making correct predictions. For example, the robot could just track whether or not it has caught the ball. But just knowing you haven't caught the ball at timestep t doesn't let you make particularly good predictions about whether you'll have caught it at some later timestep. Somewhat better would be to track the (x,y) coordinates of the ball on the camera feed, as well as the corresponding velocities. This does let you make some useful predictions, but still not very good ones. An even better idea would be to track positions and velocities in three-dimensional space (or alternatively, track the size of the ball in the camera feed as a substitute for the third dimension). Ignoring air, this lets you make perfect predictions about future values of everything you're tracking. Prediction as a commutative diagram We've been talking informally about "correct predi
4b7cf673-be7a-48ff-bad4-d6245c75aa10	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	How can I efficiently read all the Dath Ilan worldbuilding? I liked the April Fools Confession post, I liked the AMA, and I liked that long passage somewhere in planecrash about how they reacted to the discovery of the AI problem. But I wasn't really hooked by the glowfic, and only made it 30 pages in. Is there a compilation of Dath Ilan worldbuilding links somewhere? I would like to become confident that I have read all the relevant exerpts from the glowfic and everything else.
7d0fa099-57cb-44bc-a0ad-1480baa20878	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/arbital	Arbital	Limited AGI One of the reasons why a [Task AGI](https://arbital.com/p/6w) can potentially be safer than an [Autonomous AGI](https://arbital.com/p/1g3), is that since Task AGIs only need to carry out activities of limited scope, they [may only need limited material and cognitive powers](https://arbital.com/p/7tf) to carry out those tasks. The [nonadversarial principle](https://arbital.com/p/7g0) still applies, but takes the form of "[don't run the search](https://arbital.com/p/7fx)" rather than "make sure the search returns the correct answer". # Obstacles • Increasing your material and cognitive efficacy is [instrumentally convergent](https://arbital.com/p/10g) in all sorts of places and would presumably need to be [averted](https://arbital.com/p/2vk) all over the place. • Good limitation proposals are [not as easy as they look](https://arbital.com/p/deceptive_ease) because [particular domain capabilities can often be derived from more general architectures](https://arbital.com/p/7vh). An Artificial General Intelligence doesn't have a handcrafted 'thinking about cars' module and a handcrafted 'thinking about planes' module, so you [can't just handcraft the two modules at different levels of ability](https://arbital.com/p/7vk). E.g. many have suggested that 'drive' or 'emotion' is something that can be selectively removed from AGIs to 'limit' their ambitions; [presumably](https://arbital.com/p/43h) these people are using a mental model that is not the standard [expected utility agent](https://arbital.com/p/18r) model. To know which kind of limitations are easy, you need a sufficiently good background picture of the AGI's subprocesses that you understand which kind of system capabilities will naturally carve at the joints. # Related ideas The research avenue of [Mild optimization](https://arbital.com/p/2r8) can be viewed as pursuing a kind of very general Limitation. [Behaviorism](https://arbital.com/p/102) asks to Limit the AGI's ability to model other minds in non-whitelisted detail. [Taskishness](https://arbital.com/p/4mn) can be seen as an Alignment/Limitation hybrid in the sense that it asks for the AI to only want or try to do a bounded amount at every level of internal organization. [https://arbital.com/p/2pf](https://arbital.com/p/2pf) can be seen as an Alignment/Limitation hybrid in the sense that a [successful impact penalty](https://arbital.com/p/4l) would make the AI not want to implement larger-scale plans. Limitation may be viewed as yet another subproblem of the [https://arbital.com/p/3ps](https://arbital.com/p/3ps), since it seems like a type of precaution that a generic agent would desire to construct into a generic imperfectly-aligned subagent. Limitation can be seen as motivated by both the [https://arbital.com/p/7g0](https://arbital.com/p/7g0) and the [https://arbital.com/p/7tf](https://arbital.com/p/7tf).
5c63ecfb-259a-4827-acb7-be6abff7ab43	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Wolfram's new "Cloud" initiative I was reading through this: http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2013/11/something-very-big-is-coming-our-most-important-technology-project-yet/ which announces the new "Wolfram Cloud" project of Stephen Wolfram and I noticed how much this sounds like "Flare" and EY's old "Plan to Singularity" document (linking from archive.org because the site seems to not show that particular page right now). Only this time it's for real. What do you think?
4cb8f6ba-f301-4dd0-9538-79b1fc009d02	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Watching themselves We've been very lucky with childcare this pandemic. We had an au pair, so when schools closed suddenly on a Wednesday in early March we had live-in child care for Lily (6y) and Anna (4y). Having our children well taken care of without risking exposure outside the home or requiring either of the parents to take time off work has been incredibly helpful. Going into winter, with restrictions still in full, however, our au pair was not interested in renewing for another year. We were again lucky, and one of our housemates has been available to watch the kids three days a week. They're really great, and the kids are having a good time, but this does leave two days a week without care. We decided to draw on some of the independence we've been cultivating, and I talked to the kids about how they would be watching themselves two days a week. Over the next few weeks the kids and I worked through some plans. We went over their day, talking through the different places where they currently rely on adults, and we figured out how we were going to handle each one. Some examples: * Lunch. This wasn't something they were going to be able to do on their own, so I agreed I would still make them lunch. When possible, I eat lunch with them and read to them. It's nice to have time together, and I think they also do eat more that way. * Snacks. We talked about what food they would like to have available in case they got hungry (peanut butter pretzels, Ritz crackers) and made a small shelf for them to use. * Drinks. They can already get themselves water whenever they want to, but they like to drink milk. The milk jug is heavy and easy to spill, so we decided that each day I would fill a cup with milk and leave it in the fridge. I'm still doing this, though mostly they've ended up just drinking milk at meals when an adult would be able to give them milk anyway. * Classes. Lily is in school remotely, and has various classes at different times during the day. She knows how to get
0fc1e91d-b103-4ffd-8485-c0dd04bcb795	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	No nonsense version of the "racial algorithm bias" In discussions of algorithm bias, the COMPAS scandal has been too often quoted out of context. This post gives the facts, and the interpretation, as quickly as possible. See this for details. THE FIGHT The COMPAS system is a statistical decision algorithm trained on past statistical data on American convicts. It takes as inputs features about the convict and outputs a "risk score" that indicates how likely the convict would reoffend if released. In 2016, ProPublica organization claimed that COMPAS is clearly unfair for blacks in one way. Northpointe replied that it is approximately fair in another way. ProPublica rebukes with many statistical details that I didn't read. The basic paradox at the heart of the contention is very simple and is not a simple "machines are biased because it learns from history and history is biased". It's just that there are many kinds of fairness, each may sound reasonable, but they are not compatible in realistic circumstances. Northpointe chose one and ProPublica chose another. THE MATH The actual COMPAS gives a risk score from 1-10, but there's no need. Consider the toy example where we have a decider (COMPAS, a jury, or a judge) judging whether a group of convicts would reoffend or not. How well the decider is doing can be measured in at least three ways: * False negative rate = (false negative)/(actual positive) * False positive rate = (false positive)/(actual negative) * Calibration = (true positive)/(test positive) A good decider should have false negative rate close to 0, false positive rate close to 0, and calibration close to 1. Visually, we can draw a "square" with four blocks: * false negative rate = the "height" of the false negative block, * false positive rate = the "height" of the false positive block, * calibration = (true positive block)/(total area of the yellow blocks) Now consider black convicts and white convicts. Now we have two squares. Since they have different reoffend rates for some reason, the
506798b8-5026-4c6d-8f8b-a742ba09362a	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Do anthropic considerations undercut the evolution anchor from the Bio Anchors report? The Bio Anchors report by Ajeya Cotra tries to forecast AGI timelines by getting estimates of how much compute might be needed to build or train a model that has general intelligence capabilities. This estimate is based on various biological comparisons, and for the purposes of this question I want to focus on the most conservative estimate from the report, that coming from how much computation was done by evolution in the history of life. It turns out we can bound this in several different ways by a number on the order of 1045 FLOP. One argument could be this: the Landauer limit bound on how much compute can be done on Earth given how much energy the Earth is able to radiate is something like 1047 bit erasures/year, and we can cut this down by many orders of magnitude due to various considerations: brains operate far from the Landauer limit at the bit level (though maybe not if you use a larger scale Landauer limit that conditions on irreversible information transmission via electrons, see this post), evolution is only responsible for a small fraction of the Earth's radiation, et cetera. Overall I think something on the order of 1045 FLOP for total compute done by evolution seems sufficiently big to be safe. The Bio Anchors report uses a different method but arrives at a number that's not very different from this one. There is, however, a potential problem with this: we can imagine that evolution is an optimization process that's running on many different planets, and only in a select few number of them does evolution end up producing general intelligence. If this is true, producing general intelligence can be a much harder problem than this calculation gives it credit for, because anthropic considerations mean we would only be asking the question of how difficult general intelligence is to produce in worlds where general intelligence was actually produced. We should therefore multiply our compute upper bound by the reciprocal of the probability that this amount
6afcc9c4-a9a1-4d8d-af72-a4beadcac7d2	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	How to deal with a misleading conference talk about AI risk? Does it make sense to give a public response? Who would be able to do it? The conference organizer, who had asked me to evaluate the talk, offered to interview me to set things straight. However, I don't know if that is sensible, and given my level of experience, I'm afraid I would misrepresent AI risk myself. To be concrete: the talk was Should We Fear Intelligent Machines? by Gerald Sussman of SICP fame. He touched on important research questions and presented some interesting ideas. But much of what he said was misleading and not well-reasoned. In response to the comments I add specifics. This is the same as I sent to the conference organizer, who had asked me for an evaluation. Note that this evaluation is separate from the interview mentioned above. The evaluation was private, the interview would be public. * Because of the low sound quality, I might have misunderstood some statements. * Mr. Sussman touched on important research questions. * AI that can explain itself https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.00899 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explainable_Artificial_Intelligence * Corrigibility https://intelligence.org/research/#ET * Those who worry about AI do also worry about synthetic biology. https://futureoflife.org/background/benefits-risks-biotechnology/ https://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/research/research-areas/#1513088119642-44d2da6a-2ffd * Taboos – related to ‘Avoiding negative side effects’ https://blog.openai.com/concrete-ai-safety-problems/ Note that taboos rely heavily on human culture and values. Getting those into AI is another big research area: https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/oH8KMnXHnw964QyS6/preface-to-the-sequence-on-value-learning If discouraging harmful and encouraging beneficial behaviour were easy, reinforcement learning would be the solution. * His solution approaches might be useful. * I don't know enough to judge them. * Certainly they only address a small part of the problem space, which is laid out in: https://arxiv.
5772da0b-ec55-4742-95a1-757002b92f0a	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Questions about Conjecure's CoEm proposal Conjecture recently released an AI safety proposal. The three of us spent a few hours discussing the proposal and identifying questions that we have. (First, we each re-read the post and independently brainstormed a few questions we had. Then, we discussed the post, exchanged questions/uncertainties, and consolidated our lists). Conjecture's post is concise, which means it leaves out many details. Many of our questions are requests for more details that would allow us (and others) to better understand the proposal and evaluate it more thoroughly. Requesting examples and details 1. What are the building blocks that the CoEms approach will draw from? What are examples of past work that has shown us how to build powerful systems that are human-understandable? 2. What are examples of “knowledge of building systems that are broadly beneficial and safe while operating in the human capabilities regime?” (see Wei_Dai’s comment) 3. What’s an example of an experiment that would be considered part of the CoEm agenda? (see Garrett Baker’s comment) 4. What kinds of approaches does Conjecture intend to use to extract alignment insights “purely from mining current level systems”? (Is this the same as interpretability research and digital neuroscience?) 5. The “minimize magic” section feels like that is where the juice is, but it’s not really explained much, which makes it difficult to evaluate. Can you offer more details about how you intend to minimize magic? Conceptual questions 1. Assume you had a fully human-understandable system, and you could understand its current capabilities. How would you be able to forecast its future capabilities (e.g., if deployed or if given certain commands)? 1. If we solve human neuroscience such that we could understand the brain of a 2-year-old, we would be able to accurately assess the (current) capabilities of the 2-year-old. However, we would not necessarily be able to predict the (future) capabilities of this brain once it is
7ace4620-077b-4880-94ed-57b368c05b46	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Superintelligence Reading Group 2: Forecasting AI This is part of a weekly reading group on Nick Bostrom's book, Superintelligence. For more information about the group, and an index of posts so far see the announcement post. For the schedule of future topics, see MIRI's reading guide. ---------------------------------------- Welcome. This week we discuss the second section in the reading guide, Forecasting AI. This is about predictions of AI, and what we should make of them. This post summarizes the section, and offers a few relevant notes, and ideas for further investigation. My own thoughts and questions for discussion are in the comments. There is no need to proceed in order through this post. Feel free to jump straight to the discussion. Where applicable, page numbers indicate the rough part of the chapter that is most related (not necessarily that the chapter is being cited for the specific claim). Reading: Opinions about the future of machine intelligence, from Chapter 1 (p18-21) and Muehlhauser, When Will AI be Created? ---------------------------------------- Summary Opinions about the future of machine intelligence, from Chapter 1 (p18-21) 1. AI researchers hold a variety of views on when human-level AI will arrive, and what it will be like. 2. A recent set of surveys of AI researchers produced the following median dates: * for human-level AI with 10% probability: 2022 * for human-level AI with 50% probability: 2040 * for human-level AI with 90% probability: 2075 3. Surveyed AI researchers in aggregate gave 10% probability to 'superintelligence' within two years of human level AI, and 75% to 'superintelligence' within 30 years. 4. When asked about the long-term impacts of human level AI, surveyed AI researchers gave the responses in the figure below (these are 'renormalized median' responses, 'TOP 100' is one of the surveyed groups, 'Combined' is all of them'). 5. There are various reasons to expect such opinion polls and public statements to be fairly inaccurate. 6. None
e0906335-473c-49dc-9894-9101e790821b	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	All the posts I will never write This post has been written for the first Refine blog post day, at the end of the week of readings, dicussions, and exercises about epistomology for doing good conceptual research. (/with courtesy to Adam Shimi who suggested the title and idea. ) Rationality, Probability, Uncertainty, Reasoning * Failures of The Aumann Agreement Theorem * The famous Aumann Agreement Theorem states that rational reasoners can never agree-to-disagree. In day-to-day life we clearly have many situations where rational reasoners do agree-to-disagree. Are people just bad rationalist or are there more fundamental reasons that the Aumann Agreement Theorem can fail. * I review all the ways in which the Aumann Agreement Theorem can fail that I know of - including failures based on indexical information, computational-complexity obstacles, divergent-interpretations-of-evidence, Hansonian non-truth-seeking and more. * Warren Buffet: The Alpha of Wall Street * If we observe a trader that consistenly beat the market that should be evidence against the Efficient Market Hypothesis. * A trader could also just have been lucky. How much should we update against the EMH and how much should we expect the trader to beat the market in the future? * Can we quantify how much information the market absorbed? This is very reminiscent of Wows Bayesian surprise in Bayesian statistics. * The Bid-Ask Spread and Epistemic Uncertainty/ Prediction Markets as Epistemic Fog of War * If you know A will resolve you should buy shares on A, if you know not A will happen you should buy shares on not A. If you think A will not resolve you should sell shares on A. The Bid-ask Spread measures bet resolution uncertainty * Suppose an adversary has an interest in showing you A if A happens and for it not to resolve if not A, i.e. selective reporting. In this case you should buy A and sell not A. * When an earnings call come in.. bid-ask spread increases. * Where Forecasting goes Wrong...
3ec0c569-d9b7-44c6-a076-f0617d00af47	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	[SEQ RERUN] Ethical Injunctions Today's post, Ethical Injunctions was originally published on 20 October 2008. A summary (taken from the LW wiki): > A look at the peculiar properties of decision theories that include rules about not doing certain things, even when they seem like the right thing to do. Discuss the post here (rather than in the comments to the original post). This post is part of the Rerunning the Sequences series, where we'll be going through Eliezer Yudkowsky's old posts in order so that people who are interested can (re-)read and discuss them. The previous post was Ethical Inhibitions, and you can use the sequence_reruns tag or rss feed to follow the rest of the series. Sequence reruns are a community-driven effort. You can participate by re-reading the sequence post, discussing it here, posting the next day's sequence reruns post, or summarizing forthcoming articles on the wiki. Go here for more details, or to have meta discussions about the Rerunning the Sequences series.
aa687fef-3ff7-4bb0-b28d-973d89ee2bc5	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	The lure of technocracy I’ve said that society was generally optimistic about progress until the early 20th century, and lost that confidence in the World Wars. By the late 20th century, from about the 1970s on, a deep skepticism and distrust of progress had come to prominence. But what happened in between? I have a new theory about what characterized the attitude toward progress (in the US, at least) from about the 1930s through the ‘60s. It’s just a hypothesis at this stage, but it goes like this: The 19th century was dominated by a belief in the power of human reason and its ability to advance science and technology for the betterment of life. But after World War I and the Great Depression, it got harder to believe in the rationality of humanity or in the predictability and controllability of the world. The generation that went through these shocks, however, was not ready to give up on the idea of progress. They still wanted progress and still believed that reason could achieve it—but they worried that the masses could not be trusted to be rational, and that progress could not be left to the chaos of democracy and free markets. Instead, progress was to be achieved by a technical elite that would exercise top-down control. The purest form of this, perhaps, found expression in early Communism, which valorized industrial production but sought to achieve it by subordinating the individual to totalitarian rule. The US was too individualistic for that—but it evolved its own flavor of the idea that I’m just starting to understand. Call it “technocracy.” Historical evidence Here are some snippets from my research that indicate this theme. Walter Lippmann and the “democratic realists” Lippmann wrote a number of books around the 1920s arguing that democracy doesn’t work, because it relies on an informed public, which he saw as impossible. Quoting from “Can Democracy Survive in the Post-Factual Age?” by Carl Bybee: > For Lippmann, given the inevitable tendency of individuals to distort wh
9d1789bf-0f01-40ce-b231-ef02bfcb7953	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Conservation of Expected Jury Probability The New York Times has a calculator to explain how getting on a jury works. They have a slider at the top indicating how likely each of the two lawyers think you are to side with them, and as you answer questions it moves around. For example, if you select that your occupation is "blue collar" then it says "more likely to side with plaintiff" while "white collar" gives "more likely to side with defendant". As you give it more information the pointer labeled "you" slides back and forth, representing the lawyers' ongoing revision of their estimates of you. Let's see what this looks like. Initial Selecting "Over 30" Selecting "Under 30" For several other questions, however, the options aren't matched. If your household income is under $50k then it will give you "more likely to side with plaintiff" while if it's over $50k then it will say "no effect on either lawyer". This is not how conservation of expected evidence works: if learning something pushes you in one direction, then learning its opposite has to push you in the other. Let's try this with some numbers. Say people's leanings are: income probability of siding with plaintiff probability of siding with defendant >$50k 50% 50% <$50k 70% 30% Before asking you your income the lawyers' best guess is you're equally likely to be earning >$50k as <$50k because $50k's the median [1]. This means they'd guess you're 60% likely to side with the plaintiff: half the people in your position earn over >$50k and will be approximately evenly split while the other half of people who could be in your position earn under <$50k and would favor the plaintiff 70-30, and averaging these two cases gives us 60%. So the lawyers best guess for you is that you're at 60%, and then they ask the question. If you say ">$50k" then they update their estimate for you down to 50%, if you say "<$50k" they update it up to 70%. "No effect on either lawyer" can't be an option here unless the question gives no information. [1] Almost; the media
b1f1ae41-59a6-4899-8bfe-3f8474f9c5a0	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/lesswrong	LessWrong	Mental subagent implications for AI Safety Meta: I wrote this draft a couple of years ago, but never managed to really proceed down this line of thought to a conclusion. I figured it would be better off placed in public for feedback. Assume, for the sake of argument, that breaking a human agent down into distinct mental subagents is a useful and meaningful abstraction. The appearance of human agentic choice arises from the under-the-hood consensus among mental subagents. Each subagent is a product of some simple, specific past experience or human drive. Human behavior arises from the gestalt of subagent behavior. Pretend that subagents are ontologically real. A decent way of defining what a person genuinely wants would be if they both claim to want it before getting it, and would predictably claim that they actually wanted it after getting it. This is a decent first-pass way of ensuring sufficient inter-subagent agreement. Some agents are going to be dis-endorsed by almost every other relevant agent. I think inside you there's probably something like a 2-year-old toddler who just wants everyone to immediately do what you say. There are probably some really sketchy parts in there, attached to childhood traumas or evolved instincts, that you overall just don't endorse, and which would be really bad for you if you satisfied them. This basically implies that even a super-AI trying to "satisfy" all your "values" should actually probably ignore the part of you that is indistinguishable from Sauron. And maybe some other parts that are harder to describe. So how does the super-AI determine which parts of you are Sauron and which parts may be kind of weird but actually deserve to be paid attention to? Like, it would be really easy to accidentally sweep "sex" into the dustbin, because it's basically a minefield of weird selfish animalistic behaviors. The Vulcans confine it to a narrow timeframe, etc. But nobody wants a future where the AI overlord has done us the favor of cutting sex out of our lives. Status-seeking behavior, striving, and competitive impulses are other things that I can see being accidentally binned by some process trying to "optimize" for "what humans want". Again, the stance here is to break all human behavior down into fundamental subagents or into fundamental [goal-like or belief-like objects](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/3pKXC62C98EgCeZc4/complex-behavior-from-simple-sub-agents). If the super-AI-psychiatrist can fire a muon beam into your brain and actually see all of your subagents, which ones do they include in their model of "how to make this human happy or at least not create a dystopia for them", and which ones do they disregard? My first thought is that the AI would have to do something like this: take every subagent A, and check in with every single other subagent and see whether those subagents would feel good or bad (or indifferent) about subagent A getting what they wanted. Sum it all up, maybe weighted according to something like "how much suffering, by some neurological metric, is actually generated in Subagent Y when Subagent X is made happy?" And if some subagents get a very low score, then maybe ignore those. Another idea is that this is something that kind of needs to be applied on an ongoing bases, as new subagents are continually created, or attenuated. There's another critically important phenomenon, which is that certain subagents can just evaporate when you shine a light on them. You may have some deep, subconscious, entirely unexamined belief about how the world is, how people are, how you are, and this belief governs as lot of your behavior. But you don't see the belief. To you, this is just how the world is. And then maybe one day something happens in your life, or you have a great therapist, or you're meditating, and you actually see this belief as the construct that it is, you see through it, and then it's just gone. And it's good that it's gone, on some level even that belief itself would dis-endorse its own existence if it had just had this new information earlier. But I don't want to bite the bullet and say "all subagents that dissolve when fed new, true information should be expunged" because I feel like that might accidentally drive us insane. Like, if the AI told us, good news, the actual truth is that you are meaningless in an important cosmic sense, and here is a proof, and I am going to burn away all of your "meaning" circuitry with a laser. That's not a good outcome. We're bordering on mindcrime scenarios here, but I think the AI should try to figure out which subagents are the ones that you would probably prospectively and retrospectively endorse lasering out, if you knew what the AI knows (which you don't, and it shouldn't just tell you), and then try to gently guide you toward the kind of organic life-realization that would cause those harmful beliefs to be fixed. So if I had to summarize the overall idea in one line, it would be, nudge humans toward organic solutions to inner conflicts that can be fixed, and try to "do therapy" on inner agents whose desires cause significant net overall suffering, and try to factor in verbal claims (or predicted verbal claims) of "yes, I actually want that" or "no, I don't want that" by the whole human as much as possible.
fcee35e0-f842-4d21-8d64-ac38c361815c	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	What are the deciding factors of human cognitive endurance? Cal Newport says something to the effect that the median capacity for high-intensity focus is about four hours per day in Deep Work. I think this can bounce around over time for individuals – especially regarding psychological dispositions like bipolar or autism, which proffer an immense capacity for hyper-fixation at the cost of occasional catatonia. Aside from fluctuation, there's remarkable variance between people. On the high-end, some people can maintain their peak-intensity on a regular basis for ten hours (e.g. John Carmack) without burning out long-term or experiencing short-term crashes. On the low-end, despite a healthy life-style, some people struggle to stay awake during the day (search "you definitely have a thyroid problem" on r/productivity). What are the deciding factors of this variance, that stake out interventions or practices people can implement to dramatically improve this ability? ---------------------------------------- [edit/add: drugs are another frame of cognitive endurance – modafinil can, within hours, bring a person to a level of concentration and energy further than a healthy diet and exercise could perhaps ever take that person. Is there any robust method to achieve modafinil-enhanced performance as a baseline – and without chemical intervention? I've noticed that general cognitive endurance matters to performance more than personal interest, and that I have high cognitive endurance for some things but at times zero for others, which makes it so that I can spend the entire day doing something that looks like intense work on the outside, but is internally experienced as "just another minute"-style procrastination. This is frustrating, and I've had to drop many classes for fatigue reasons. It's also interesting that there isn't a specific guide to maintaining high-levels of general cognitive endurance, given its economic value – though high-demand companies and startups already select from a pool of high-endurance people.]
ccf6154d-0dbc-4c23-9cd9-adc4f291ec19	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Could a superintelligence deduce general relativity from a falling apple? An investigation Introduction: In the article/short story “That Alien Message”, Yudkowsky writes the following passage, as part of a general point about how powerful super-intelligences could be: > Riemann invented his geometries before Einstein had a use for them; the physics of our universe is not that complicated in an absolute sense. A Bayesian superintelligence, hooked up to a webcam, would invent General Relativity as a hypothesis—perhaps not the dominant hypothesis, compared to Newtonian mechanics, but still a hypothesis under direct consideration—by the time it had seen the third frame of a falling apple. It might guess it from the first frame, if it saw the statics of a bent blade of grass. As a computational physicist, this passage really stuck out to me. I think I can prove that this passage is wrong, or at least misleading. In this post I will cover a wide range of arguments as to why I don't think it holds up. Before continuing, I want to state my interpretation of the passage, which is what I’ll be arguing against. 1. Upon seeing three frames of a falling apple and with no other information, a superintelligence would assign a high probability to Newtonian mechanics, including Newtonian gravity. So if it was ranking potential laws of physics by likelihood, “Objects are attracted to each other by their masses in the form F=Gmm/r2” would be near the top of the list. 2. Upon seeing only one frame of a falling apple and one frame of a single blade of grass, a superintelligence would assign a decently high likelihood to the theory of general relativity as put forward by Einstein. This is not the only interpretation of the passage. It could just be saying that an AI would “invent” general relativity in terms of inventing the equations just by idly playing around, like mathematicians playing with 57 dimensional geometries or whatever. However, the phrase “under active consideration”, and “dominant hypothesis” imply that these aren’t just inventions, these are dedu
50ad00b3-fb99-449e-8c7a-dd6fab1bf0e4	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	[HPMoR] Celebratory Trailer Over the weekend the Methods of Rationality audio-book podcast tipped 1000 downloads, and I figured in celebration I'd put a trailer or two out on YouTube. Nothing fancy, just some stills/pics with an audio clip of 30-60 seconds. Thing is, I don't know what would work best for this. So I'm asking any readers of the fanfic - what first really captured your attention when you started reading Methods of Rationality? When did you say "Ok, that's it, I gotta read all of this now"? Or, if you're a listener to the podcast, are there any particular points that you thought were cool enough to share widely? The restrictions are that it should be somewhere in the 30-60 second range, and that it has to be from the first 6 chapters (since that's all that's been recorded so far). Thanks!
2e785b58-da0c-4401-81da-a8feba7d31b9	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/arxiv	Arxiv	Learning Latent Plans from Play \thesection Introduction ------------------------- There has been significant recent progress showing that robots can be trained to be competent specialists, learning individual skills like grasping (\citetkalashnikov2018qt), locomotion and dexterous manipulation (\citethaarnoja2018soft). In this work, we focus instead on the concept of a generalist robot: a single robot capable of performing many different complex tasks without having to relearn each from scratch–a long standing goal in both robotics and artificial intelligence. Learning from play is a fundamental and general method humans use to acquire a repertoire of complex skills and behaviors (\citetwood2005play). It has been hypothesized [pellegrini2007play, robert1981animal, hinde1983ethology, sutton2009ambiguity] that play is a crucial adaptive property–that an extended period of immaturity in humans gives children the opportunity to sample their environment, learning and practicing a wide variety of strategies and behaviors in a low-risk fashion that are effective in that niche. What is play? Developmental psychologists and animal behaviorists have offered multiple definitions [burghardt2005genesis, robert1981animal, hinde1983ethology, pellegrini2002children, sutton2009ambiguity]. \citetburghardt2005genesis, reviewing the different disciplines, distills play down to “a non-serious variant of functional behavior” and gives three main criteria for classifying behavior as play: 1) Self-guided. Play is spontaneous and directed entirely by the intrinsic motivation, curiosity, or boredom of the agent engaging in it. 2) Means over ends. Although play might resemble functional behavior at times, the participant is typically more concerned with the behaviors themselves than the particular outcome. In this way play is “incompletely functional”. 3) Repeated, but varied. Play involves repeated behavior, but behavior that cannot be rigidly stereotyped. In this way, play should contain multiple ways of achieving the same outcome. Finally, all forms of play are considered to follow exploration (\citetbelsky1981exploration). That is, before children can play with an object, they must explore it first (\citethutt1966exploration), inventorying its attributes and affordances. Only after rich object knowledge has been built up to act as the bases for play does play displace exploration. Play-supervised Robotic Skill Learning: In this work, we propose learning from play data (LfP), or “play-supervision”, as a way to scale up multi-task robotic skill learning. We intend to learn goal-conditioned control on top of a large collection of unscripted robot play data. But how do we define and implement robotic play, with all the same crucial properties of play previously identified? Voluntary and varied object interaction could in principle be collected by any agent equipped with 1) curiosity, boredom, or some intrinsic motivation drive [forestier2017intrinsically, sansone2000intrinsic, schmidhuber1991possibility] and 2) a foundational understanding of object behavior to guide play, such as intuitive physics (\citetspelke2007core) and prior knowledge object attributes and affordances gained through exploration. However, building such agents is a challenging open problem in robotics. Instead, we collect a robot play dataset by allowing a user to teleoperate the robot in a playground environment, interacting with all the objects available in as many ways that they can think of. A human operator provides the necessary properties of curiosity, boredom, and affordance priors to guide rich object play. Human exploration and domain knowledge allow us to avoid the question of learning how to play, and rather focus entirely on what can be learned from play. We show examples of the play data fed into our system in \figgrid\_playground. We underline that this data is not task specific, but rather intends to cover as much as possible of the full object interaction space allowed by the environment111Play is typically characterized along object, locomotor, and social dimensions (\citetburghardt2005genesis). While there is nothing in principle that stops us from applying our methods to, say, locomotion play or combined locomotion and object play, in this work we focus on object play.. Benefits of Play Data For Robotics: Supervision of complex robotic skills by humans is possible, but expensive. In the learning from demonstration (LfD) setting, one can collect expert teleoperation demonstrations for each skill (\figgrid\_sliding\_demo) and train the robot to imitate the behavior. This first requires one to come up with a rigid, constrained and discrete definition of each skill that is important. If a slight variation of the skill is needed, e.g. opening a drawer by grasping the handle from the top down rather than bottom up, an entirely new set of demonstrations might be required. Additionally, if the agent is expected to compose multiple tasks in a row, e.g. opening a drawer, placing an object inside, and closing it, the researcher may need to collect demonstrations of transitions between all pairs of skills. In short, achieving flexible multi-task skill learning in an LfD setting would require a substantial and expensive human effort. A number of recent works have attempted to sidestep the expensive demonstration effort, learning single or multi-task robotic control from unattended, scripted data collection ([DBLP:journals/corr/AgrawalNAML16, DBLP:journals/corr/NairCAIAML17, pinto2015supersizing, levine2017grasping, ebert2018visual, pathakICLR18zeroshot]). While highly scalable, the complexity of the skills that can be learned depends on the complexity of what can be reasonably scripted. In \citetebert2018visual for example, the skills that emerged from random robot arm movement in a bin of objects was found to be generally restricted to pushing and dragging objects. This is to be expected, as sampling random actions is very unlikely to traverse through more complex manipulations by chance. To remedy this, the authors made more complex skills such as grasping more likely by adding “drop and grasp” primitives to the unsupervised collection process. In general, in the scripted collect paradigm, for each new complex skill a robot is required to perform, a corresponding and sizeable effort must go into scripting a new primitive that results in the skill happening by chance frequently during unattended collection. In summary, if a robot needs to perform multiple complex tasks, expert demonstrations can be sufficiently rich, but are not scalable, and scripted collection is highly scalable, but not sufficiently rich. Instead, we argue that data collected from a user playing through teleoperation (LfP), is both scalable and complex enough to form the basis for large scale multi-task robotic skill learning: * [noitemsep,topsep=0pt] * Play data is cheap. Teleoperation play data involves no scene staging, no task segmenting, and no resetting the scene to an initial state. This means it can be collected in large quantities quickly and cheaply. This represents a much more scalable alternative to segmented task demonstrations, the conventional inputs to imitation learning algorithms (an example of which is shown in \figgrid\_sliding\_demo) which must be staged, segmented, and reset. * Play data is general. Play relaxes the need for a discrete, predefined task distribution. Instead play contains a continuum of behaviors, functional and non-functional. * Play data is rich. The “repeat but varied” and “means over ends” properties of play naturally lead to high coverage of the possible interaction space. Since the behavior is driven by the curiosity and the boredom of the operator, it is expected to be naturally diverse (an operator will get bored opening a door the same way every time, and might try different behaviors). Furthermore, play follows exploration, and is guided by rich object attribute and affordance knowledge. This means play behavior should preserve this attribute knowledge, e.g. stacking cups, squeezing a toy, or rolling a ball. This represents a much more complex and discriminate set of interactions than what is typically available in a scripted robotic collection setting, which tends to yield indiscriminate pushing or object dragging. In summary, we argue (and will show empirically) that play data strikes a good balance on the cost-richness tradeoff: it is highly rich, containing repetition of complex, prior-guided behaviors and many different ways of achieving the same outcome. It is also cheap, since it can be collected continuously without upfront task definition, scene staging or resetting. Self-supervising control on top of play data: Our aim in this work is to make it feasible to learn a general-purpose control policy: a policy that can flexibly achieve a wide range of complex user-specified tasks, using as inputs only inexpensive play data with no predetermined constraints. We rely on a simple structure in the data to provide self-supervision for training such policies222Note that in this context, “self-supervision” refers to the autonomous labeling scheme for a supervised training of goal-conditioned policies, not unattended data collection. Specifically, it is not to be confused with recent “self-supervised robotics” work, where unattended, scripted robotic data collection is used to learn skills such as grasping ([DBLP:journals/corr/AgrawalNAML16, DBLP:journals/corr/NairCAIAML17, pinto2015supersizing, levine2017grasping, ebert2018visual, pathakICLR18zeroshot]): a random sequence of state-actions extracted from play memory describes exactly how the robot got from a particular initial state to a particular final state. This provides a synthetic labelling to train a general goal-conditioned policy, by treating the initial state of the sequence as “current state”, the final state as “goal state”, and the actions taken as the targets to reproduce. Furthermore, as shown in \figgrid\_playground, even though play data in general is considered “incompletely functional”, subsequences mined from play data can be considered to be a noisy, but plentiful source of non-expert functional demonstrations. Organizing play behavior in a latent plan space: Play, by definition, is highly varied, containing repeated, non-stereotyped object interaction. Intuitively, there are many ways of achieving the same outcome in a scene–for example opening a door quickly or slowly, grasping the top of the handle or the bottom of the handle–and an agent or operator playing in a scene should explore them all. This presents a multimodal representation learning challenge: policies must be expressive enough to model all the possible solutions to a given goal. Our approach, described in Document, models this variation explicitly, by learning to recognize a repertoire of reusable behaviors from play unsupervised and organize them in an embedding space. We can think of a single point in this space as representing an entire behavior our agent executed to get from a particular current state to a particular goal state. Local regions should correspond to distinct solutions to the same task. The motivation is to make learning goal-conditioned policies substantially easier: policies no longer need to encode the full knowledge of how to to traverse state space, rather they just need to learn how to accurately decode reusable latent plans. In this paper, we introduce the following contributions: * [noitemsep,topsep=0pt] * Learning from play (LfP), or “play-supervision”, a paradigm for scaling up multi-task robotic skill learning by self-supervising on cheap and rich user teleoperated play data. We show empirically its benefits over learning from segmented demonstrations (LfD), especially in regards to scalability, robustness to perturbations, and failure recovery. * \lmpns , a method that jointly learns 1) reusable latent plan representations from play data and 2) goal-conditioned control capable of generalizing to a wide variety of complex user-specified manipulation tasks. \thesection Related Work ------------------------- Robotic learning methods generally require some form of supervision to acquire behavioral skills – conventionally, this supervision either consists of a cost or reward signal, as in reinforcement learning [sutton2018reinforcement, kober2013reinforcement, deisenroth2013survey], or demonstrations, as in imitation learning \citetpastor2009learning,argall2009survey. However, both of these sources of supervision require considerable human effort to obtain: reward functions must be engineered by hand, which can be highly non-trivial in environments with natural observations, and demonstrations must be provided manually for each task. When using high-capacity models, hundreds or even thousands of demonstrations may be required for each task (\citetDBLP:journals/corr/abs-1710-04615,DBLP:journals/corr/RahmatizadehABL17,rajeswaran2017learning,DBLP:journals/corr/DuanASHSSAZ17). In this paper, we instead aim to learn general-purpose policies that can flexibly accomplish a wide range of user-specified tasks, using data that is not task-specific and is easy to collect. Our model can in principle use any past experience for training, but the particular data collection approach we used is based on human-provided play data. In order to distill non-task-specific experience into a general-purpose policy, we set up our model to be conditioned on the user-specified goal. Goal conditioned policies have been explored extensively in the literature for reinforcement learning [kaelbling1993learning, pong2018temporal, nair2018visual, schaul2015universal, andrychowicz2017hindsight, DBLP:journals/corr/abs-1712-00948, DBLP:journals/corr/abs-1711-06006, DBLP:journals/corr/CabiCHDWF17, DBLP:journals/corr/SukhbaatarKSF17], as well as for control via inverse models [DBLP:journals/corr/AgrawalNAML16, DBLP:journals/corr/NairCAIAML17, christiano2016transfer, DBLP:journals/corr/abs-1805-01954]. Learning powerful goal-conditioned policies with reinforcement learning can produce policies with good long-horizon performance, but is difficult in terms of both the number of samples required and the need for extensive on-policy exploration [pinto2017asymmetric, pinto2015supersizing, levine2017grasping, ebert2017videoprediction, finn2016visualforesight, lange2012autonomous, lillicrap2015continuous, levine2016gps]. We instead opt to train our model with supervised learning. This introduces a major challenge, since the distribution over actions that can reach a temporally distant goal from the current state based on the data can be highly multimodal. Even single-task imitation models of this sort must contend with multi-modality [rahmatizadeh2018vision], and goal-conditioned models are typically restricted to short and relatively simple tasks, such as pushing [DBLP:journals/corr/AgrawalNAML16], repositioning rope [DBLP:journals/corr/NairCAIAML17], or short-distance navigation [pathakICLR18zeroshot]. We tackle substantially more temporally extended tasks, using our proposed latent plan model, which models the multimodality explicitly using a hierarchical latent variable model. Our work on learning latent plans is most related to \citethausman2018learning, who present a method for reinforcement learning of closely related manipulation skills, parameterized via an explicit skill embedding space. They assume a fixed set of initial tasks at training time, with access to accompanying per task reward functions to drive policy and embedding learning. In contrast, our method relies on unsegmented, unlabeled play data with no predefined task training distribution. It additionally requires no reward function, and performs policy training via supervised learning, yielding orders of magnitude greater sample efficiency. Finally, they generalize to new skills by freezing the learned policy and learning a new mapping to the embedding space, whereas \lmpgeneralizes to new tasks simply by feeding a new current and goal state pair to the trained plan proposal network. Our self-supervised learning method for learning latent plans relates to other works in self-supervised representation learning from sequences [wang2015unsupervised, misra2016shuffle, Sermanet2017TCN]. It decouples high and low level planning to achieve better task generalization, a strategy well studied in the literature. For example in \citetSermanet2009Multirange, run a simple low-level planner at high-frequency while running a more sophisticated higher-level planner at low-frequency. This resulted in a more responsive low-level controller, resulting in fewer collisions, in an off-road navigation task, while the long-term planner could plan better routes. Additionally, the lower-frequency long-term planning meant that paths were more stability and oscillations were reduced. Lastly, our work is related to prior research on few-shot learning of skills from demonstrations (\citetfinn2017one,wang2017robust,DBLP:journals/corr/JamesDJ17,DBLP:journals/corr/abs-1806-10166,DBLP:journals/corr/DuanASHSSAZ17). While our method does not require demonstrations to perform new tasks – only the goal state – it can readily incorporate demonstrations simply by treating each subsequent frame as a goal. In contrast to prior work on few-shot learning from demonstration that require a meta-training phase (\citetfinn2017one), our method does not require any expensive task-specific demonstrations for training or a predefined task distribution, only non-specific play data. In contrast to prior work that uses reinforcement learning (\citetDBLP:journals/corr/abs-1810-05017), it does not require any reward function or costly RL phase. \thesection Method ------------------- ### \thesubsection Play data Consider play data, an unbounded sequence of states and actions corresponding to voluntary, repeated, non-stereotyped object interaction between an agent and it’s environment. \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| D={(s1,a1),(s2,a2),⋯,(sT,aT)} \| \| (\theequation) \| In our experiments, we define play data as the states and actions logged during human play teleoperation of a robot in a playground environment. Find an example of such data in \figgrid\_playground. \includegraphics[width=.8]models/lmp\_inference4 Figure \thefigure: Task-agnostic policy inference. The policy is conditioned on a latent plan which is sampled once from a plan distribution (inferred from the current and goal states). The policy is also conditioned on the current state as well as the goal state desired by the user. \includegraphics[width=]data/grid\_playground Figure \thefigure: Example of “play” data: here we display frames sampled every second from a same sequence and ordered from left to right and top to bottom. We see the human operator engaging in self-guided interaction with a rectangular object through VR teleoperation. In this case, the operator chooses to pick up the object, push it around, uses it to push the door to the left, drops the object inside the cabinet, then finally drops the object off the table. Our play dataset consists of 3 hours of unscripted continuous play similar to this sequence. Note that subsequences could be considered task demonstrations, e.g. when the agent places the block inside the shelf. Although, they might not necessarily be expert demonstrations, but rather incompletely functional, containing misses, inefficient behavior, etc. Also note that not all the behaviors observed during play are evaluated, e.g. when the agent drops the object off the table or opens the door with the block. \includegraphics[width=]data/grid\_sliding\_demo Figure \thefigure: Example of a supervised demonstration sequence labeled and segmented for the ”sliding” task. ### \thesubsection \lmpns As described earlier, play is characterized as repeated object interaction that cannot be rigidly stereotyped. In this way, play can be expected to contain multiple ways of achieving the same outcome. An operator playing in an environment with a door isn’t looking for the most efficient way to open it repeatedly. They will rather, through the course of curiosity or boredom, naturally experiment with the many ways the door can be opened–fast, slow, by grasping the top of the handle, the bottom of the handle etc. Intuitively, there are many distinct behaviors that might take an agent from a particular initial state to a particular final state. The presence of multiple action trajectories for the same (current state, goal state) pair presents a challenge to models seeking to learn goal-conditioned control in the form of counteracting action labels. This can be considered a multimodal representation learning problem: policies must be powerful enough to model all possible high-level behaviors that lead to the same goal outcome. With this motivation in mind, we introduce \lmp(play-supervised latent motor plans), a hierarchical latent variable model for learning goal-conditioned control. \lmpsimultaneously learns 1) reusable latent plan representations from play data and 2) plan and goal-conditioned policies, capable of decoding learned latent plans into actions to reach user-specified goal states. We call the representation space learned by \lmp“latent plan space”. The intent is that individual points in the space correspond to behaviors recognized during play that got the agent from some initial state to some final state. We call points in the space “latent plans” because a single point should carry the necessary information for how to act, should it find itself at some point in the future in a similar initial state, trying to reach a similar goal state. That is, the embedding space is designed for efficient reuse. Local regions of plan space should correspond to distinct solutions to the same task. In this way, we aim for \lmpto explicitly model the “multiple solutions” problem in play data, relieving the policy of that effort. That is, a policy conditioned on current state, goal state, and latent plan only needs to learn how to follow the specific plan. Ideally, latent plans provide disambiguating information to the policy, turning a multimodal representation learning problem into a unimodal one. Hence, we aim for \lmpto recognize a repertoire of reusable behaviors simply by passively recalling play experience, then invoke them at test time to solve user-specified tasks. Finally we note that although \lmpwas designed to ameliorate multimodality issues in play data, it is a general self-supervised control learning method that could in principle operate on any collection of state-action sequences. Concretely, our training method consists of three modules: * Plan Recognizer Φ: A stochastic sequence encoder that takes a randomly sampled play sequence τ as input, mapping it to a distribution in latent plan space qΦ(z\|τ). The motivation of this encoder is to act as ”recognition” network, identifying which region of latent plan space the behavior executed during the play sequence belongs to. Φ is used only at training time to extract latent plan representations from the unlabeled data. This can be interpreted as a learned variational posterior over latent plan states. * Plan Proposer Ψ: A stochastic encoder taking the initial state si and final state sg from the same sampled sequence τ, outputting distribution pΨ(z\|si,sg). The goal of this encoder is to represent the full distribution over behaviors that connect the current state to the goal state, potentially capturing multiple distinct solutions. This can be interpreted as a learned conditional prior. * Goal and plan conditioned policy π: A policy conditioned on the current state st, goal state sg, and a latent plan z sampled from Φ, trained to reconstruct the actions the agent took during play to reach the goal state from the initial state, as described by inferred plan z. We now describe each of the modules in detail and the losses used to train them. #### \thesubsubsection Plan Recognizer Consider a sequence of state action pairs τ of window length κ sampled at random from the play dataset D: \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| τ={(sk:k+κ,ak:k+κ)}∼D \| \| (\theequation) \| We define a stochastic sequence encoder, Φ, referred to throughout the paper as the “plan recognizer”, which takes as input τ and outputs a distribution over latent plans. Intuitively, the idea is for the encoder not to learn to recognize plan codes as single points, but as ellipsoidal regions in latent space, forcing the codes to fill the space rather than memorizing individual training data. We parameterize our sequence encoder Φ with a bidirectional recurrent neural network with parameters θΦ, which produces means and variances in latent plan space from τ. \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| μΦ,σΦ=Φ(τ;θΦ) \| \| (\theequation) \| As is typical with training VAEs, we assume the encoder has a diagonal covariance matrix, i.e. z∼N(μΦ,diag(σ2Φ)). Individual latent plans z are sampled from this distribution at training time via the ”reparameterization trick” (\citetkingma2013auto) and handed to a latent plan and goal conditioned action decoder (described in the next section) to be decoded into reconstructed actions. While we could in principle use the sequence encoder at test time to perform full sequence imitation, in this work we restrict our attention to tasks specified by individual user-provided goal states. Therefore, the sequence encoder is only used at training time to help learn a latent plan space, and is discarded at test time. ### \thesubsection Plan Proposer We also define a plan proposal network, Ψ, which maps initial state si and goal state sg to a distribution over latent plans. The goal of this network is to output the full distribution of possible plans or behaviors that an agent could execute to get from a particular initial state to a particular goal state. We parameterize the plan encoder Ψ with a multi-layer neural network with parameters θΨ, which produces means μΨ and variances σΨ in latent plan space from the si to sg333For simplicity, we choose a unimodal multivariate Gaussian to represent distributions in latent plan space; nothing in principle stops us from using more complicated distributions. \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| μΨ,σΨ=Ψ(si,sg;θΨ) \| \| (\theequation) \| Similarly we assume the plan encoder has a diagonal covariance matrix, i.e. z∼N(μΨ,diag(σ2Ψ)). Note that Ψ is a stochastic encoder, which outputs a distribution in the same latent plan space as Φ. Both Φ and Ψ are trained jointly by minimizing the KL divergence between the two distributions: \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| LKL=KL(N(z\|μΦ,% diag(σ2Φ)) \|\| N(z\|μΨ,diag(σ2Ψ))) \| \| (\theequation) \| Intuitively, LKL forces the plan distribution output by the planner Ψ to place high probability on actual latent plans recognized during play. Simultaneously it enforces a regular geometry over codes output by the plan recognizer Φ, allowing plausible plans to be sampled at test time from regions of latent space that have high probability under the conditional prior Ψ. ### \thesubsection Resampling latent plans at test time Note that at training time, si simply corresponds to the first state in the sampled sequence τ. At test time, we allow the agent to resample latent plans at frequency κ (matching the planning horizon it was trained with). That is, it is free to replan using the current state si and fixed goal state sg every κ steps. In our experiments, our agent gets observations and takes low-level actions at 30hz. We set κ to 32, meaning that the agent replans at roughly 1hz. See Fig. Document for details. ### \thesubsection Task agnostic, goal and latent plan conditioned policy Here we describe how we train our task-agnostic policy to achieve user-specified goals. Our policy π, parameterized by θπ, is an RNN that takes as input current state st, goal state sg, and a sampled latent plan z, and outputs action at. The policy is trained via maximum likelihood to reconstruct the actions taken during the sequence sampled from play. To obtain action predictions at training time, we sample z once from the distribution output by Φ (which has been conditioned on the entire state-action sequence τ), then for each timestep t in the sequence, we compute actions at from inputs st, sg, and z. The loss term Lπ corresponding to the action prediction is determined as follows:444We can optionally also have the decoder output state predictions, and adds another loss term penalizing a state reconstruction loss. \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| Lπ=−1κk+κ∑t=kln(π(at\|st,sg,z)) \| \| (\theequation) \| As mentioned earlier, at test time Φ is discarded and we sample z from the distribution output by plan proposal network Ψ, conditioned on st, sg as described in Section Document. The motivation for this architecture is to relieve the policy from having to representing multiple valid action trajectory solutions implicitly. Since Φ processes the full state-action sequence τ to be reconstructed, a plan sampled from Φ should provide disambiguating information to the policy at training time, converting a multimodal problem (learn every plan) to a unimodal one (learn to decode this specific plan). ### \thesubsection Full objective Following \citethiggins2016beta, we introduce a weight β, controlling LKL’s contribution to the total loss. Setting β <1 was sufficient to avoid “posterior collapse” (\citet45404), a commonly identified problem in VAE training in which an over-regularized model combined with a powerful decoder tends to ignores the latent variable z. The full \lmptraining objective is: \| \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| LLMP=1κLπ+βL% KL \| \| (\theequation) \| We describe the full \lmpminibatch training pseudocode in Algorithm Document. {algorithm}[tb] Training \lmpns {algorithmic}[1] \StateInput: Play data D:{(s1,a1),⋯,(sT,aT)} \StateRandomly initialize model parameters θ={θΦ,θΨ,θπ} \Whilenot done: \StateSample a sequence τ={(sk:k+κ,ak:k+κ)}∼D \StateSet current and goal state: si←sk, sg←sk+κ \StateEncode the sequence τ: μΦ,σΦ=Φ(τ;θΦ) \StateEncode si and sg: μΨ,σΨ=Ψ(si,sg;θΨ) \StateCompute KL loss using Eq. Document. \StateCompute action loss using Eq. Document. \StateUpdate θ by taking a gradient step to minimize Eq. Document. \EndWhile ### \thesubsection A connection to conditional variational autoencoder \lmp can be interpreted as a conditional variational sequence to sequence autoencoder \citetNIPS2015\_5775, autoencoding random experiences extracted from play memory through a latent plan space. In the framework of variational inference, we can view the plan recognizer Φ as a learned posterior recognition model qΦ(z\|τ). Additionally, we can view the plan proposal network Ψ as a learned conditional prior pΨ(z\|st,sg). The full objective is similar to \citethiggins2016beta. \includegraphics[width=]xp/debi Figure \thefigure: 18-tasks average accuracy when self-supervising on cheap play data (left), versus training with direct supervision from expensive positive demonstrations (right). A single task-agnostic \lmppolicy not trained on any task-specific data outperforms 18 specialized policies, each trained on individual expert task demonstrations. The best model trained with play-supervision (LMP) reaches an average of 80.1% accuracy in 0-shot training, while the best expert-supervised model (BC) reaches 70.3% accuracy in 100-shot (per-task) training. \includegraphics[width=]xp/robustness Figure \thefigure: Robustness to variations in starting positions compared to the observed sequence from which the goal is extracted. With no perturbations, the accuracies of \lmpns, \gcbcand BC are 85%, 78% and 70% respectively. However with a perturbation of ∼0.4 meters, accuracies drop to 79%, 68% and 23% respectively. The \lmpmodel is the most robust to changes to initial agent position. ### \thesubsection \gcbcns We also train a play-supervised goal conditioned policy in a similar fashion to \lmpns, but with no explicit latent plan inference. We denote this policy by πGCBC and parameterized it by θGCBC.That is, we train an RNN to maximize the likelihood of an action sequence sampled from play data, given the corresponding state sequence. The policy is conditioned on current state st and goal state sg as before. We call this \gcbc(play-supervised goal-conditioned behavioral cloning), and describe the minibatch training pseudo-code in Algorithm Document. {algorithm}[tb] Training \gcbcns {algorithmic}[1] \StateInput: Play data D:{(s1,a1),⋯,(sT,aT)} \StateRandomly initialize model parameters θGCBC. \Whilenot done: \StateSample a sequence τ={(sk:k+κ,ak:k+κ)}∼D \StateSet current and goal state: si←sk, sg←sk+κ \StateCompute action loss ~{}~{}~{}~{}~{}~{}~{}~{}~{}LGCBC=−1κ∑k+κt=kln(πGCBC(at\|st,sg)) \StateUpdate θGCBC by taking the gradient step to minimize ~{}~{}~{}~{}~{}LGCBC. \EndWhile \includegraphics[width=]xp/robustness\_per\_task Figure \thefigure: Accuracy per task while perturbing starting position. \includegraphics[width=]xp/retry\_close\_sliding Figure \thefigure: Naturally emerging retrying behavior: example run of \lmppolicy on ”close sliding” task (sliding door left to right). The policy is aiming the reach the goal state (left), fails multiple times but retries without being explicitly asked to and is successful at the 3rd attempt. \thesection Experiments ------------------------ In this section we describe large scale experiments designed to answer the following questions: * Can a single play-supervised general-purpose policy generalize to a wide variety of user specified manipulation tasks, despite not being trained on task-specific data? * If so, how do models trained on play data perform relative to strongly supervised single-purpose models trained from positive only demonstrations for each task (LfD)? * Does training on play data result in policies that are more robust to initial state perturbation than policies trained solely on positive demonstrations? * Does decoupling latent plan inference and plan decoding into independent problems, as is done in \lmpns, improve performance over goal-conditioned Behavioral Cloning (Play-GCBC), which does no explicit latent plan inference? * Does \lmplearn a semantically meaningful plan embedding space despite never being trained with task labels? ### \thesubsection Multi-task Control Here we describe our multi-task robotic manipulation training and evaluation environment, designed to answer the above questions. #### \thesubsubsection Training Data An updated version of the Mujoco HAPTIX system is used to collect teleoperation demonstration data [kumar2015mujoco]. Two types of demonstration data are collected for this experiment: 1) ‘play’ data, collected without any specific task in mind but meant to cover many different possible object interactions, which is fed to \lmpand \gcbcand 2) segmented positive demonstrations of individual tasks (‘open a door’, ‘push a button’, etc.), fed to the individual BC baseline models. Our environment exposes arm and object position and orientations as observations to the agent. We model an 8-dof continuous action space representing agent end effector position, rotation, and gripper control. See an example of the playground data collected in \figgrid\_playground and an example of the positive behavioral cloning demonstrations in \figgrid\_sliding\_demo. We collected around 3 hours total of playground data and 100 positive demonstrations each of 18 tasks (1800 demonstrations total). We collect 10 positive demonstrations of each task to use for validation and 10 for test. Tasks are specified to goal-conditioned models by resetting the environment to the initial state of the demonstration, and feeding in the final state as the goal to reach. #### \thesubsubsection Evaluation Tasks The 18 manipulation tasks defined for evaluation purposes and for training the supervised baseline (BC) are Grasp lift, Grasp upright, Grasp flat, Open sliding, Close sliding, Drawer, Close Drawer, Sweep object, Knock object, Push red button, Push green button, Push blue button, Rotate left, Rotate right, Sweep left, Sweep right, Put into shelf, Pull out of shelf. A complete description of each task is available in \asecttasks. ### \thesubsection Generalization from play-supervision In \figdebi, we find that (\lmpns), despite not being trained on task-specific data, generalizes to 18 user-specified manipulation tasks with an average success rate of 85.5%. This outperforms a collection of single-task expert models trained entirely on segmented positive task demonstrations (BC), who reach an average 70.3%. ### \thesubsection The value of latent planning Additionally, we find that endowing play-supervised models with latent plan inference helps generalization to downstream tasks, with \lmpsignificantly outperforming Play-GCBC (average success of 85.5% vs. 78.4% respectively). Results are summarized in table Document. \| \| \| success \| \| \| training \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| \| with ∼0.4m \| training \| collection \| shots \| \| Method \| success % \| perturbations \| data \| cost \| per task \| \| BC \| 70.3%±11.7 \| 23.2% \| labeled \| expensive \| 100 \| \| \gcbc \| 77.9%±2.2 \| 68.3% \| unlabeled \| cheap \| 0 \| \| \lmp \| 85.5\%±1.7 \| 78.8% \| unlabeled \| cheap \| 0 \| Table \thetable: 18-task success. ### \thesubsection Robustness In \figrobustness, we see how robust each model is to variations in the environment at test time. To do so, prior to executing trained policies, we perturb the initial position of the robot end effector. We find that the performance of policies trained solely from positive demonstration degrades quickly as the norm of the perturbation increases, and in contrast, models trained on play data are able to robust to the perturbation. We attribute this behavior to the well-studied “distribution drift” problem in imitation learning (\citetross2011dagger). Intuitively, models trained on expert demonstrations are susceptible to compounding errors when the agent encounters observations outside the expert training distribution. In interpreting these results we posit 1) the lack of diversity in the expert demonstrations allowed policies to overfit to a narrow initial starting distribution and 2) a diverse play dataset, with repeated, non-stereotyped object interaction and continuous collection, has greater coverage of the space of possible state transitions. This would make it more difficult for an initial error (or perturbation) to put the agent in an observation state outside its training distribution, ameliorating the compounding problem. \thesection Discussion ----------------------- ### \thesubsection Discovering tasks unsupervised Here we investigate the latent plan spaced learned by \lmpns, seeing whether or not it is capable of encoding task information despite never being trained with task labels. In Document we embed 512 randomly selected windows from the play dataset as well as all validation task demonstrations, using the Φ plan recognition model. Surprisingly, we find that despite never being trained explicitly with task labels, \lmpappears to organize its latent plan space functionally. E.g. we find certain regions of space all correspond to drawer manipulation, while other regions correspond to button manipulation. \includegraphics[width=]xp/tsne Figure \thefigure: Latent plan space t-SNE. Despite never being trained with task labels, \lmplearns to organize a learned latent plan space with respect to tasks. Embedded positive task demonstrations are colored by task type, random embedded play sequences are colored grey. ### \thesubsection Emergent Retrying We find qualitative evidence that play-supervised models make multiple attempts to retry the task after initial failure. In \figretry\_close\_sliding we see an example where our \lmpmodel makes 3 attempts to close a sliding door before finally achieving it. Similarly in \afigretry\_grasp\_upright, we see that the \lmpmodel, tasked with picking up an upright object, moves to successfully pick up the object it initially had knocked over. We find that this behavior does not emerge in models trained solely on expert demonstrations. We posit that the unique “coverage” and “incompletely functional” properties of play lend support to this behavior. A long, diverse play dataset covers many transitions between arbitrary points in state space. We hypothesize despite initial errors at test time lead the agent off track, it might still have (current state, goal state) support in a play dataset to allowing a replanning mechanism to succeed. Furthermore, the behavior is “incompletely functional”–an operator might be picking a block up out of a drawer, accidentally drop it, then pick it right back up. This behavior naturally contains information on how to recover from, say, a “pick and place” task. Furthermore, it would discarded from an expert demonstration dataset, but not a play dataset. ### \thesubsection Limitations At present all models and baselines are trained using ground truth state, i.e. full pose of objects, as observations. Our aim in future work is to take raw perceptual observations as inputs. Like other methods training goal-conditioned policies, we assume tasks important to a user can be described using a single goal state. This is overly limiting in cases where a user would like to specify how she wants the agent to do a task, as well as the desired outcome, e.g. “open the drawer slowly.” As mentioned earlier, we could in principle use the trained sequence encoder Φ to perform this type of full sequence imitation. We hope to explore this in future work. Additionally, we make the assumption that play data is not overly imbalanced with regards to one object interaction versus another. That is, we assume the operator does not simply choose to play with one object in the environment and never the others. This is likely a brittle assumption in the context of lifelong learning, where an agent might prefer certain play interactions over others. In future work, we look to relax this constraint. Finally, we use parameterize the outputs of both Φ and Ψ as simple unimodal gaussian distributions for simplicity, potentially limiting the expressiveness of our latent plan space. Since Play-LMP can be interepreted as a conditional variational autoencoder, we might in future work consider experimenting with lessons learned from the variational autoencoder literature, for example more flexible variational posteriors (\citetkingma1606improving), discrete rather than continuous codes in latent plan space (\citetvan2017neural), etc. \thesection Conclusion ----------------------- In this work, we emphasize the benefits of training a single, task-agnostic, goal-conditioned policy on unstructured, unsegmented play data, as opposed to training individual models from scratch for each task. We introduce a novel self-supervised plan representation learning and goal-conditioned policy learning algorithm, \lmpns, designed to scale to a difficult behavioral cloning regime with large amount of natural variability in the data. Surprisingly we find that its latent plan space learns to embed task semantics despite never being trained with task labels. Finally we find that models trained on play data are far more robust to perturbation than models trained solely on positive demonstrations, and exhibit natural failure recovery despite not being trained explicitly to do so.
c3907cb5-62eb-4ee9-924a-2c1f689aa91b	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Causal Reality vs Social Reality Epistemic status: this is a new model for me, certainly rough around the joints, but I think there’s something real here. This post begins with a confusion. For years, I have been baffled that people, watching their loved ones wither and decay and die, do not clamor in the streets for more and better science. Surely they are aware of the advances in our power over reality in only the last few centuries. They hear of the steady march of technology, Crispr and gene editing and what not. Enough of them must know basic physics and what it allows. How are people so content to suffer and die when the unnecessity of it is so apparent? It was a failure of my mine that I didn’t take my incomprehension and realize I needed a better model. Luckily, RomeoStevens recently offered me an explanation. He said that most people live in social reality and it is only a minority who live in causal reality. I don’t recall Romeo elaborating much, but I think I saw what he was pointing at. This rest of this post is my attempt to elucidate this distinction. Causal Reality Causal reality is the reality of physics. The world is made of particles and fields with lawful relationships governing their interactions. You drop a thing, it falls down. You lose too much blood, you die. You build a solar panel, you can charge your phone. In causal reality, it is the external world which dictates what happens and what is possible. Causal reality is the reality of mathematics and logic, reason and argument. For these too, it would definitely seem, exist independent of the human minds who grasp them. Believing in the truth preservation of modus ponens is not so different from believing in Newton’s laws. Necessarily, you must be inhabiting causal reality to do science and engineering. In causal reality, what makes things good or bad are their effects and how much you like those effects. My coat keeps me warm in the cold winter, so it is a good coat. All humans inhabit causal reality to some extent
1cb8cdc7-33d4-4bbf-8a34-6a9b4fbb7afd	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	How to popularize LW ideas: a webcomic? People have been asking this question here a lot lately (not sure, why, but still). MoR has been by far the most effective ad for LW so far, but this is a one-man effort. I wonder if a web comic drawn by the regulars based on, say, recent posts and comments would be another way to get people interested. Just to set the bar really, really low, here is my quick impression of this post (the idea is stolen from #lesswrong, but the obvious bad pun is mine):
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7a1882b0-de38-4ae4-84f5-ca3e24ce29a9	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	So, geez there's a lot of AI content these days Since April this year, there's been a huge growth in the the number of posts about AI, while posts about rationality, world modeling, etc. have remained constant. The result is that much of the time, the LW frontpage is almost entirely AI content. Looking at the actual numbers, we can see that during 2021, no core LessWrong tags[1] represented more than 30% of LessWrong posts. In 2022, especially starting around April, AI has started massively dominating the LW posts. Here's the total posts for each core tag each month for the past couple years. On April 2022, most tags' popularity remains constant, but AI-tagged posts spike dramatically: All posts with 0 or greater karma are included in this graph. When applying a higher threshold, the percentage AI tagged posts is even higher. Even people pretty involved with AI alignment research have written to say "um, something about this feels kinda bad to me." I'm curious to hear what various LW users think about the situation. Meanwhile, here's my own thoughts. Is this bad? Maybe this is fine. My sense of what happened was that in April, Eliezer posted MIRI announces new "Death With Dignity" strategy, and a little while later AGI Ruin: A List of Lethalities. At the same time, PaLM and DALL-E 2 came out. My impression is that this threw a brick through the overton window and got a lot of people going "holy christ AGI ruin is real and scary". Everyone started thinking a lot about it, and writing up their thoughts as they oriented. Around the same time, a lot of alignment research recruitment projects (such as SERI MATS or Refine) started paying dividends, and resulting in a new wave of people working fulltime on AGI safety. Maybe it's just fine to have a ton of people working on the most important problem in the world? Maybe. But it felt worrisome to Ruby and me. Some of those worries felt easier to articulate, others harder. Two major sources of concern: There's some kind of illegible good thing that happens when
2e947e69-4161-4e2b-867b-1ab0a7e293ac	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/alignmentforum	Alignment Forum	Gary Marcus vs Cortical Uniformity *Edited much later to add: WARNING I wrote this early on in my neuroscience self-education. It has a number of mistakes and confusions. Sorry. I’m keeping it posted as-is for historical interest only.* Background / context ==================== I wrote about cortical uniformity last year in [Human Instincts, Symbol Grounding, and the Blank Slate Neocortex](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NkSpukDkm9pjRdMdB/human-instincts-symbol-grounding-and-the-blank-slate). (Other lesswrong discussion includes [Alex Zhu recently](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WFopenhCXyHX3ukw3/how-uniform-is-the-neocortex) and [Jacob Cannell in 2015](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9Yc7Pp7szcjPgPsjf/the-brain-as-a-universal-learning-machine).) Here was my description (lightly edited, and omitting several footnotes that were in the original): > > Instead of saying that the human brain has a vision processing algorithm, motor control algorithm, language algorithm, planning algorithm, and so on, in "Common Cortical Algorithm" (CCA) theory we say that (to a first approximation) we have a massive amount of "general-purpose neocortical tissue", and if you dump visual information into that tissue, it does visual processing, and if you connect that tissue to motor control pathways, it does motor control, etc. > > > CCA theory, as I'm using the term, is a simplified model. There are almost definitely a couple caveats to it: > > > 1. There are sorta "hyperparameters" on the generic learning algorithm which seem to be set differently in different parts of the neocortex. For example, some areas of the cortex have higher or lower density of particular neuron types. There are other examples too. I don't think this significantly undermines the usefulness or correctness of CCA theory, as long as these changes really are akin to hyperparameters, as opposed to specifying fundamentally different algorithms. So my reading of the evidence is that if you put, say, motor nerves coming out of visual cortex tissue, the tissue could do motor control, but it wouldn't do it quite as well as the motor cortex does. > 2. There is almost definitely a gross wiring diagram hardcoded in the genome—i.e., set of connections between different neocortical regions and each other, and other parts of the brain. These connections later get refined and edited during learning. Again, we can ask how much the existence of this innate gross wiring diagram undermines CCA theory. How complicated is the wiring diagram? Is it millions of connections among thousands of tiny regions, or just tens of connections among a few regions? Would the brain work at all if you started with a random wiring diagram? I don't know for sure, but for various reasons, my current belief is that this initial gross wiring diagram is not carrying much of the weight of human intelligence, and thus that this point is not a significant problem for the usefulness of CCA theory. (This is a loose statement; of course it depends on what questions you're asking.) I think of it more like: if it's biologically important to learn a concept space that's built out of associations between information sources X, Y, and Z, well, you just dump those three information streams into the same part of the cortex, and then the CCA will take it from there, and it will reliably build this concept space. So once you have the CCA nailed down, it kinda feels to me like you're most of the way there.... > > > Marcus et al.'s challenge ========================= Now, when I was researching that post last year, I had read one book chapter opposed to cortical uniformity and another book chapter in favor of cortical uniformity, which were a good start, but I've been keeping my eye out for more on the topic. And I just found one! In 2014 Gary Marcus, Adam Marblestone, and Thomas Dean wrote a little commentary in Science Magazine called [The Atoms of Neural Computation](http://web.mit.edu/amarbles/www/docs/MarcusMarblestoneDean2014_Science.pdf), with a case against cortical uniformity. Out of the various things they wrote, one stands out as the most substantive and serious criticism: They throw down a gauntlet in their [FAQ](https://arxiv.org/abs/1410.8826), with a table of 10 fundamentally different calculations that they think the neocortex does. Can one common cortical algorithm really subsume or replace all those different things? Well, I accept the challenge!! But first, I better say something about what there common cortical algorithm is and does, with the caveat that nobody knows all the details, and certainly not me. (The following paragraph is mostly influenced by reading a bunch of stuff by Dileep George & Jeff Hawkins, along with miscellaneous other books and papers that I've happened across in my totally random and incomplete neuroscience and AI self-education.) The common cortical algorithm (according to me, and leaving out lots of aspects that aren't essential for this post) is an algorithm that builds a bunch of generative models, each of which consists of predictions that other generative models are on or off, and/or predictions that input channels (coming from outside the neocortex—vision, hunger, etc.) are on or off. ("It's symbols all the way down.") All the predictions are attached to confidence values, and both the predictions and confidence values are, in general, functions of time (or of other parameters ... again, I'm glossing over details here). The generative models are compositional, because if two of them make disjoint and/or consistent predictions, you can create a new model that simply predicts that both of those two component models are active simultaneously. For example, we can snap together a "purple" generative model and a "jar" generative model to get a "purple jar" generative model. Anyway, we explore the space of generative models, performing a [search with a figure-of-merit that kinda mixes self-supervised learning, model predictive control, and Bayesian(ish) priors](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/cfvBm2kBtFTgxBB7s/predictive-coding-rl-sl-bayes-mpc). Among other things, this search process involves something at least vaguely analogous to message-passing in a probabilistic graphical model. OK, now let's dive into the [Marcus et al. FAQ list](https://arxiv.org/abs/1410.8826): * Marcus et al.'s computation 1: "Rapid perceptual classification", potentially involving "Receptive fields, pooling and local contrast normalization" in the "Visual system" I think that "rapid perceptual classification" naturally comes out of the cortical algorithm, not only in the visual system but also everywhere else. In terms of "rapid", it's worth noting that (1) many of the "rapid" responses that humans do are not done by the neocortex, (2) The cortical message-passing algorithm supposedly involves both faster, less-accurate neural pathways (which prime the most promising generative models), as well as slower, more-accurate pathways (which, for example, properly do the "explaining away" calculation). * Marcus et al.'s computation 2: "Complex spatiotemporal pattern recognition", potentially involving "Bayesian belief propagation" in "Sensory hierarchies" The message-passing algorithm I mentioned above is either Bayesian belief propagation or something approximating it. Contra Marcus et al., Bayesian belief propagation is not just for spatiotemporal pattern recognition in the traditional sense; for example, to figure out what we're looking at, the Bayesian analysis incorporates not only the spatiotemporal pattern of visual input data, but also semantic priors from our other senses and world-model. Thus if we see a word with a smudged letter in the middle, we "see" the smudge as the correct letter, even when the same smudge by itself would be ambiguous. * Marcus et al.'s computation 3: "Learning efficient coding of inputs", potentially involving "Sparse coding" in "Sensory and other systems" I think that not just sensory inputs but every feedforward connection in the neocortex (most of which are neocortex-to-neocortex) has to be re-encoded into the data format that the neocortex knows what to do with, i.e. different possible forward inputs correspond to stimulation of different sparse subsets out of a pool of receiving neurons, wherein the sparsity is relatively uniform, where all the receiving neurons in the pool are stimulated a similar fraction of the time (for efficient use of computational resources), where the different subsets have low overlap, etc. So, [Jeff Hawkins has a nice algorithm for this re-encoding process](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncom.2017.00111/full) and again, I would put this (or something like it) as an interfacing ingredient on every feedforward connection in the neocortex. * Marcus et al.'s computation 4: "Working memory", potentially involving "Continuous or discrete attractor states in networks" in "Prefrontal cortex" To me, the obvious explanation is that active generative models fade away gradually when they stop being used, rather than turning off abruptly. Maybe that's wrong, or there's more to it than that; I haven't really looked into it. * Marcus et al.'s computation 5: "Decision making", potentially involving "Reinforcement learning of action-selection policies in PFC/BG system" and "winner-take-all networks" in "prefrontal cortex" I didn't talk about neural implementations in my [post on how generative models are selected](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/cfvBm2kBtFTgxBB7s/predictive-coding-rl-sl-bayes-mpc), but I think reinforcement learning (process (e) in that post) is implemented in the basal ganglia. As far as I understand, the basal ganglia just kinda listens broadly across the whole frontal lobe of the neocortex (the home of planning and motor control), and memorizes associations between arbitrary neocortical patterns and associated rewards, and then it can give a confidence-boost to whatever active neocortical pattern is anticipated to give the highest reward. Winner-take-all is a combination of that basal ganglia mechanism, and the fact that generative models suppress each other when they make contradictory predictions. * Marcus et al.'s computation 6: "Routing of information flow", potentially involving "Context-dependent tuning of activity in recurrent network dynamics, shifter circuits, oscillatory coupling, modulating excitation / inhibition balance during signal propagation", "common across many cortical areas" Routing of information flow is a core part of the algorithm: whatever generative models are active, they know where to send their predictions (their message-passing massages). I think it's more complicated than that in practice thanks to a biological limitation: I think the parts of the brain that work together need to be time-synchronized for some of the algorithms to work properly, but time-synchronization is impossible across the whole brain at once because the signals are so slow. So there might be some complicated neural machinery to dynamically synchronize different subregions of the cortex when appropriate for the current information-routing needs. I'm not sure. But anyway, that's really an implementation detail, from a high-level-algorithm perspective. As usual, it's possible that there's more to "routing of information flow" that I don't know about. * Marcus et al.'s computation 7: "Gain control", potentially involving "Divisive normalization", "common across many cortical areas" I assume that divisive normalization is part of the common cortical algorithm; I hear it's been observed all over the neocortex and even hippocampus, although I haven't really looked into it. Maybe it's even implicit in that Jeff Hawkins feedforward-connection-interface algorithm I mentioned above, but I haven't checked. * Marcus et al.'s computation 8: "Sequencing of events over time", potentially involving "Feed-forward cascades" in "language and motor areas" and "serial working memory" in "prefrontal cortex" I think that every part of the cortex can learn sequences; as I mentioned, that's part of the data structure for each of the countless generative models built by the cortical algorithm. Despite what Marcus implies, I think the time dimension is very important even for vision, despite the impression we might get from ImageNet-solving CNNs. There are a couple reasons to think that, but maybe the simplest is the fact that humans can learn the "appearance" of an inherently dynamic thing (e.g. a splash) just as easily as we can learn the appearance of a static image. I don't think it's a separate mechanism. (Incidentally, I started to do a deep dive into vision, to see whether it really needs any specific processing different than the common cortical algorithm as I understand it. In particular, the [Dileep George neocortex-inspired vision model](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/358/6368/eaag2612/tab-figures-data) has a lot of vision-specific stuff, but (1) some of it is stuff that could have been learned from scratch, but they put it in manually for their convenience (this claim is in the paper, actually), and (2) some of it is stuff that fits into the category I'm calling "innate gross wiring diagram" in that block-quote at the top, and (3) some of it is just them doing a couple things a little bit different from how the brain does it, I think. So I wound up feeling like everything seems to fit together pretty well within the CCA framework, but I dunno, I'm still hazy on a number of details, and it's easy to go wrong speculating about complicated algorithms that I'm not actually coding up and testing.) * Marcus et al.'s computation 9: "Representation and transformation of variables", potentially involving "population coding" or a variant in "motor cortex and higher cortical areas" Population coding fits right in as a core part of the common cortical algorithm as I understand it, and as such, I think it is used throughout the cortex. * Marcus et al.'s computation 10: "Variable binding", potentially involving "Indirection" in "PFC / BG loops" or "Dynamically partitionable autoassociative networks" or "Holographic reduced representations" in "higher cortical areas" They clarify later that by "variable binding" they mean "the transitory or permanent tying together of two bits of information: a variable (such as an X or Y in algebra, or a placeholder like subject or verb in a sentence) and an arbitrary instantiation of that variable (say, a single number, symbol, vector, or word)." I say, no problem! Let's go with a language example. I'm not a linguist (as will be obvious), but let's take the sentence "You jump". There is a "you" generative model which (among other things) makes a strong prediction that the "noun" generative model is also active. There is a "jump" generative model which (among other things) makes a strong prediction that the "verb" generative model is also active. Yet another generative model predicts that there will be a sentence in which a noun will be followed by a verb, with the noun being the subject. So you can snap all of these ingredients together into a larger generative model, "You jump". There you have it! Again, I haven't thought about it in any depth. At the very least, there are about a zillion other generative models involved in this process that I'm leaving out. But the question is, are there aspects of language that can't be learned by this kind of algorithm? Well, some weak, indirect evidence that this kind of algorithm can learn language is the startup [Gamalon](https://gamalon.com/), which tries to do natural language processing using probabilistic programming with some kind of compositional generative model, and it works great. (Or so they say!) [Here's their CEO Ben Vigoda describing the technology on youtube](https://youtu.be/yeDB2SQxCEs), and don't miss their fun probabilistic-programming drawing demo starting at 29:00. It's weak evidence because I very much doubt that Gamelon uses exactly the same data structures and search algorithms as the neocortex, only vaguely similar, I think. (But I feel strongly that it's way more similar to the neocortex than a Transformer or RNN is, at least in the ways that matter.) Conclusion ========== So, having read the Marcus et al. paper and a few of its references, it really didn't move me at all away from my previous opinion: I still think the Common Cortical Algorithm / Cortical Uniformity hypothesis is basically right, modulo the caveats I mentioned at the top. (That said, I wasn't 100% confident about that hypothesis before, and I'm still not.) If anyone finds the Marcus et al. paper more convincing than I did, I'd love to talk about it!
b1eab352-7308-494f-bb12-41ce1b9ba646	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Stupid Questions May 2015 This thread is for asking any questions that might seem obvious, tangential, silly or what-have-you. Don't be shy, everyone has holes in their knowledge, though the fewer and the smaller we can make them, the better. Please be respectful of other people's admitting ignorance and don't mock them for it, as they're doing a noble thing. To any future monthly posters of SQ threads, please remember to add the "stupid_questions" tag.
9b63fe84-e125-4fce-a04a-2a34bd967c2d	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	a meta-anti-akrasia strategy that might just work For ages I've been trying to wrap my mind around meta thinking - not "what is the best way to do something", but "how do I find out which way is any good?" Meta thinking has many applications, and I am always surprised when I find a new context it can be applied to. Anti-akrasia might be such a context. The idea I am about to present came to me a few month ago and I used it to finally overcome my own problem with procrastination. I'll try to present it here as well as I can, in the hope that it might be of use to someone. If so, I am really curious what other people come up with using this technique. If akrasia is a struggle, continue reading. Where I come from: Procrastination was a big topic for me. I spent ages reading stuff, watching videos, thinking, collecting stuff and what not, but very little on actual action. One thing I did read was productivity blogs and books. I assume that some or even many of the posters here share that problem with me. I am familiar with the systems - I even gave a lecture once on GTD - but I struggled to get my own stuff out the door. It surely wasn't for a lack of knowledge, but simply for a lack of doing. The method used consists of two layers. (I) the meta concept used to develop a personal system (II) the highly personalized system I came up with while applying (I) The valuable part of this post is (I). One of the major lessons I had to learn (and am still learning) is that everyone reacts differently to a set of stimuli. This doesn't just mean differently colored folders, or the famous 'paper' or 'digital' debate. It literally means that for every person the way to get productive is different - down to the point of specific ideas working fine for one person while being a stress-inducing thing for others. So what did I do? First I assumed that more reading wouldn't do me any good. I assumed that I knew everything there is to know on the topic of personal productivity and refrained from reading any more. Instead I made u
485be29c-6f3b-4650-bccf-06b48200ec63	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Subjective experience is most likely physical Here’s the argument that convinced me subjective experience is physical. I don't claim to understand subjective experience, I just see good reasons to believe it's physical rather than non-physical. I'll point out in particular some flaws of panpsychism and dualism. I will be making some assumptions so that I can concentrate on the key points. I will not give an exhaustive list of those assumptions, but they include things like evolution by natural selection and the existence of physical reality. I think for most of the audience here the assumptions would seem natural so I don't feel the need to discuss them in depth. If this is not the case for you, this article may not provide anything of substance. What is the evidence for subjective experience? Take this computer program: print("This program has subjective experience.") Does this program have subjective experience? I think the consensus is "no" so claiming to have subjective experience is not necessarily evidence for it. What evidence do we have about subjective experience? The evidence is... subjective experience. Well, all evidence fundamentally stems from subjective experience (such as reading a book or performing an experiment) but this is not what I mean here. I mean that we have no third-person evidence that any particular system has subjective experience. Nevertheless, there seems to be something that needs explaining. For one, we need to explain the causal path that makes a person say "I have subjective experience". Evolution of subjective experience The propensity of people to talk about subjective experience indicates that it is not just a fluke of some brains. There seems to be something universal about it, at least for humans. No direct selection for verbalizing "I have subjective experience" exists, but the fact that we reliably do so implies a deeper adaptive structure. There is something more fundamental, which increases inclusive genetic fitness and also causes the human brain to form an
65737a32-abe1-44dc-be43-d3d7ae33dac5	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Is "gears-level" just a synonym for "mechanistic"? If so, can we try to shift rationalist terminology towards the latter, which seems more transparent to outsiders?
d19b81e8-6ace-4b90-b870-6d4b49b8cb8b	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/blogs	Blogs	New report: “Toward Idealized Decision Theory” [![Toward Idealized](https://intelligence.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Toward-Idealized.png)](https://intelligence.org/files/TowardIdealizedDecisionTheory.pdf)Today we release a new technical report by Nate Soares and Benja Fallenstein, “[Toward idealized decision theory](https://intelligence.org/files/TowardIdealizedDecisionTheory.pdf).” If you’d like to discuss the paper, please do so [here](http://lesswrong.com/lw/lef/new_paper_from_miri_toward_idealized_decision/). Abstract: > This paper motivates the study of decision theory as necessary for aligning smarter-than-human artificial systems with human interests. We discuss the shortcomings of two standard formulations of decision theory, and demonstrate that they cannot be used to describe an idealized decision procedure suitable for approximation by artificial systems. We then explore the notions of strategy selection and logical counterfactuals, two recent insights into decision theory that point the way toward promising paths for future research. > > This is the 2nd of six new major reports which describe and motivate MIRI’s current research agenda at a high level. The first was our [Corrigibility](http://intelligence.org/2014/10/18/new-report-corrigibility/) paper, which was accepted to the [AI & Ethics workshop](http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~tw/aiethics/Introduction.html) at AAAI-2015. We will also soon be releasing a technical agenda overview document and an annotated bibliography for this emerging field of research. The post [New report: “Toward Idealized Decision Theory”](https://intelligence.org/2014/12/16/new-report-toward-idealized-decision-theory/) appeared first on [Machine Intelligence Research Institute](https://intelligence.org).
0f93181d-07b1-4963-9b1f-ab108c50b0f3	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Open Thread: July 2009 Here's our place to discuss Less Wrong topics that have not appeared in recent posts. Have fun building smaller brains inside of your brains (or not, as you please).
5cd5e062-a4ef-448c-a448-bd0443edab94	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Meetup : Helsinki Meetup - Effective Altruism Discussion article for the meetup : Helsinki Meetup - Effective Altruism WHEN: 10 May 2014 04:00:00PM (+0300) WHERE: Kaivokatu 10 A, Helsinki We're having a casual get-together to discuss topics related to Effective Altruism. There will also be some light vegan food available, and bringing more food for everyone to try is encouraged! You're welcome regardless of how familiar you are with Effective Altruism; the topics of discussion will be along the lines of researching charities, charity in Finland, and career choice. The meeting is in Rydman, which is in the 9th floor of Kaivokatu 10 A. To reach the room, take the lift up to the 8th floor and then continue up the stairs and ring the doorbell to be let in. If the downstairs door is locked, ring the Ullakkosauna doorbell. Discussion article for the meetup : Helsinki Meetup - Effective Altruism
a659be9e-6b5e-4c3c-84a6-bbfaa363c91a	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	The Act Itself: Exceptionless Moral Norms [Confidence 50%, this is speculative and good counterarguments will improve my view of these matters.] I. When I do moral philosophy, I am looking for a usable repeatable framework for analyzing moral decision-making in a very broad range of cases. I accept that moral philosophy is an inexact science and cannot be made into a machine that mechanically outputs the right answer. There are simply too many parameters that go into real decision-making to make a moral philosophy complete in the way that an account of electro-magnetism is. But I would like for something that doesn’t fall flat on its face at the first objection. The standard Thomistic framework is a great starting point but is locked in intractable controversies. Perhaps chief among them is how to identify what an act is. You see, ‘action’ is one of the three key metaphysical categories by which we judge praiseworthiness or acceptability of an action in the Thomistic system. You know the rhyme: > With Intentions Good, the mind is right. > > An act acceptable gives hand its might. > > And should an evil too befall > > Let pain be healing, evil forestall. Or if lists are your preference: 1. Your intention must be toward the good ends, not the bad ones which may result from the action. Cause a stinging pain in your child’s knee to clean the wound, not see him bleed. 2. The act must be acceptable in itself. That is, it cannot be one of things that “we just don’t do” no matter what. 3. There must be proportionally good outcome that is not caused by the bad outcomes. You can kill to protect your home, but you cannot kill to collect better data on death rattles. Generally, we group all the considerations that include causal chains, uncertainty, consequences, and proportionality into one bucket called “Circumstances.” I have always been troubled by step 2. For many years, I denied the existence of the “act itself” for moral analysis. What is the act, I thought, but the marriage of intentions with th
22b72b19-e6d5-428c-9dee-b5d526b63784	LDJnr/LessWrong-Amplify-Instruct	LessWrong	"Epistemic Effort: Thought about it for a year. Solicited feedback. Checked my last few posts' comment count to make sure I wasn't obviously wrong.A thing that happens to me, and perhaps to you:Someone writes a beautiful essay that I agree with, that sheds new light on something important.I don't have anything really to say about it. I don't want to just say "I agree!". So instead of commenting, I give it an upvote and move on.This feels bad for a few reasons:I like commenting.I like getting comments when I write things that (I hope!) are insightful, beautiful and true. It's a stronger signal that people care. Comments correlate with something staying in the public sphere of attention. A highly upvoted post eventually fades behind newer upvoted posts. But a post with lots of comments keeps people paying attention (with new people constantly checking in to see what the hubbub is about)I don't trust (as a reader or a writer) that people who read a post, give it an upvote, and move on, are really learning anything. I think that talking through an a new concept and figuring out how to apply is where much of the learning happens.I've been impressed with how much quality writing has been going on on LW2.0 so far. There has been some but not as much commenting as I'd like.I've gotten a sense of what inspires interesting, meaty discussion. Unfortunately, most of it seems... kinda bad?Things That Get People To Comment1. Be Wrong - It has been said: if google fails you, the fastest way to get a question answered is to post a wrong answer on reddit. This will result in a lot of flood of people explaining things to you.2. Be Controversial - Even better, post something that some people think are wrong. Then you get a bunch of people commenting to correct you, and then other people who disagree correcting them! The arguments perpetuate themselves from there. You won't even have to do any commenting work yourself to keep it going![BTW, these are observations, not recommendations. This list is optimized to answer the question "what causes comments" not "how to make the world better."]3. Write About Things People Feel Qualified to Have Opinions On - If you write a post on machine learning, and post it somewhere where nobody really understands machine learning, it doesn't matter if you're wrong or controversial! Nobody will understand enough to care, or feel confident enough to argue. Some considerations:It's not necessary for people to be qualified. They just need to feel like they are.If you write more informally (or in informal forums), people feel more entitled to respond.You can either tailor your topic to an existing audience, or proactively try to get an existing audience who understands your weird niche topic to read your post.4. Invoke Social Reality - People pay more attention when you're talking about social norms, or about changing coalitions of people, or arguing that some people are Bad and Wrong. This is for two reasons:Social Reality is powerful and scary. A person's sense of social safety is one of the most important things to them. People like to know who is Bad and Wrong so that they can be on the other side. People like making sure that if social norms changing, they are changing in ways they understand and like (so that nobody later decides they are Bad and Wrong).Social Reality almost always has something confusing and dumb going on that needs fixing, that people think is worth thinking about.People understand Social Reality. Or, they think they do. (See #3)Social Reality is often controversial! (See #2)5. Be So Inspiring That People Create Entire Fandoms of Your Work - This worked for Eliezer and arguably Scott. It can probably be broken down into smaller steps. It's pretty hard though. And a bunch of people trying but failing to do this can be annoying. (I've tried/failed to do this sometimes)...And then there's...6. Leave People With An Unsolved Problem That They Care About - This is related to "they feel qualified to have opinions", with the followup step of "there is actual useful thinking they can contribute to, either to solve your problem, or to apply your idea to solve their problems."Things I've Noticed Myself DoingSince comments are socially validating, I've noticed a tendency for me to end up writing:Facebook posts, where people feel a lower barrier to entry. (If the shortform section of LessWrong were up, I might do that instead)Unfinished thoughts, where there's a good chance that I'm wrong about a few things (but not all things, and not wrong on purpose to be provocative which would feel skeezy), and where there's still an unsolved problem that people will feel qualified to help out figure out.Posts engaging with social norms (which people feel excited to weigh in on and/or afraid not to)Posts engaging with personal habits that people can easily apply to their own life.This doesn't all seem bad, necessarily. But I've noticed other people that seem to be doing similar things. I've also noticed some people who tried to get people to talk about important things, and failed, and gradually resorted to writing more provocative things to get people to pay attention (which succeeded!).It seems like a rationality community warped by those incentives isn't going to accomplish the things it needs to. So, some open problems I'm thinking about, which maybe are relevant to you:I'd like feel incentivized to research things I don't understand as much (which I don't expect other people to understand as much either), to expand my (and our collective) domains of expertise.Insofar as people do end up writing the sorts of posts listed above, I think it'd be good if people thought more consciously and carefully about which tools they're employing. #6 at the very least seemed fine, and some of the others seem fine in some contexts.I'd like to learn how to be a better commenter, on posts that don't go out of their way to make it easy to comment. I have a sense that if I took the step of actually stopping to think for a half-hour about possible ramifications of a given post, I could probably think of something worth saying, and that it might get easier with time. (I've been thinking about that for the past week or two, but keep end up spending that time mostly writing my own posts, or engaging with other commenters who did more heavy lifting of initiating discussion)I'd like people who have important things to say to be able to trust that people will listen, without falling into an attentional arms race that leads inevitably to BuzzFeed. But right now I have trouble paying attention to things that are important but non-drama-laden, so I can't reasonably expect people to trust in that. That's all I got for now." The above is a chunk of text from a post created by a user on the website LessWrong. Can you elaborate on the concept of "Social Reality" and how it impacts the engagement of readers in online discussions? Social Reality is a concept that refers to the impact of societal structures, norms, and perceptions on an individual's understanding and interpretation of the world. It is a construct of shared beliefs and common understandings among a group of people or society at large. This construct shapes our perception of the world, our interactions, and our behaviors. In the context of online discussions, Social Reality plays a significant role in engagement. It impacts how people interpret and respond to content. Here's how: 1. Shared Understanding and Beliefs: Online discussions often revolve around topics that are part of the social reality. These could be societal norms, shared beliefs, or common understandings. When people see content that aligns with their understanding of social reality, they are more likely to engage with it. 2. Social Validation: People often seek validation from their social group. In online discussions, this can manifest as agreeing with popular opinions, supporting widely accepted viewpoints, or engaging more with content that has already received significant attention. This desire for social validation can drive engagement. 3. Controversy and Debate: Social Reality also includes controversial topics and differing viewpoints. These often lead to debates and discussions, driving engagement. People may feel compelled to express their opinion, defend their viewpoint, or challenge opposing views. 4. Sense of Identity and Belonging: Social Reality contributes to a person's sense of identity and their feeling of belonging to a particular group. Online discussions can reinforce this sense of identity and belonging, encouraging further engagement. For example, people might engage more with content that resonates with their personal experiences or reflects their societal group's views. 5. Change and Evolution: Social Reality is not static; it changes and evolves over time. Online discussions can be a platform for initiating change, challenging existing norms, or introducing new ideas. This potential for change can stimulate engagement, with people participating in discussions to shape or influence the social reality. In essence, Social Reality is a powerful force that shapes online engagement. It influences what content people engage with, how they respond to it, and why they choose to participate in online discussions. Discuss the role of controversy in online engagement and how it can be managed to foster healthy discussions. Controversy plays a significant role in online engagement. It often acts as a catalyst for discussion, drawing people in and encouraging them to voice their opinions. Controversial topics tend to elicit strong emotions and opinions, which can lead to high levels of engagement. Here's how: 1. Stimulates Interest: Controversial topics are often intriguing and stimulate interest. They encourage people to take a stance, voice their opinions, and engage in debate. This can result in high levels of participation and engagement. 2. Encourages Debate: Controversy naturally leads to debate. It presents differing viewpoints and encourages people to defend their opinions, challenge opposing views, and engage in dialogue. This can foster a dynamic and active discussion. 3. Promotes Critical Thinking: Controversial topics often require critical thinking. They encourage people to question, analyze, and evaluate different viewpoints. This can lead to deeper engagement and more thoughtful discussions. However, controversy can also lead to heated arguments, personal attacks, and divisive discussions if not managed properly. Here are some strategies to manage controversy and foster healthy discussions: 1. Set Clear Guidelines: Establish clear guidelines for discussion. These should promote respect, tolerance, and open-mindedness. Discourage personal attacks and encourage participants to focus on the issue, not the person. 2. Moderate Discussions: Actively moderate discussions to ensure they remain respectful and productive. This might involve removing offensive comments, intervening in heated arguments, or reminding participants of the discussion guidelines. 3. Promote Constructive Dialogue: Encourage participants to engage in constructive dialogue. This involves listening to and considering other viewpoints, providing reasoned arguments, and finding common ground. 4. Provide Accurate Information: Ensure that the discussion is based on accurate and reliable information. This can help prevent misunderstandings and misinformation from escalating the controversy. 5. Encourage Empathy: Encourage participants to empathize with different viewpoints. This can help reduce hostility and promote understanding. In conclusion, while controversy can drive online engagement, it needs to be managed carefully to ensure discussions remain respectful, productive, and conducive to learning.
a9228e4b-fc24-4913-a0cc-51ab70ac060c	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/eaforum	Effective Altruism Forum	Discontinuous progress in history: an update Note: This was cross-posted by Aaron Gertler, a Forum moderator. Footnotes from the AI Impacts site take substantial effort to transfer to the Forum, so footnote links from this post will take you to the original blog post. Hence, he recommends you [read said blog post](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/) (but will leave the full text of this post up so that it's easier to search for). I. The search for discontinuities ------------------------------------- We’ve been looking for historic cases of discontinuously fast technological progress, to help with reasoning about the [likelihood](https://aiimpacts.org/likelihood-of-discontinuous-progress-around-the-development-of-agi/) and consequences of abrupt progress in AI capabilities. We recently finished expanding this investigation to 37 technological trends.[1](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-2389) This blog post is a quick update on our findings. See [the main page on the research](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-investigation/) and its outgoing links for more details. We found [ten events](http://aiimpacts.org/cases-of-discontinuous-technological-progress/) in history that abruptly and clearly contributed more to progress on some technological metric than another century would have seen on the previous trend.[2](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-2-2389) Or as we say, we found ten events that produced ‘large’, ‘robust’ ‘discontinuities’. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/DiscontinuityCartoon-657x381.png)How we measure the size of a discontinuity (by Rick Korzekwa)Another five events caused robust discontinuities of between ten and a hundred years (‘moderate robust discontinuities’). And 48 more events caused some trend to depart from our best guess linear or exponential extrapolation of its past progress by at least ten years (and often a hundred), but did so in the context of such unclear past trends that this did not seem clearly remarkable.[3](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-3-2389) I call all of these departures ‘discontinuities’, and distinguish those that are clearly outside plausible extrapolations of the past trend, according to my judgment, as ‘robust discontinuities’.[4](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-4-2389) Much of the data involved in this project seems at least somewhat unreliable, and the [methods](http://aiimpacts.org/methodology-for-discontinuity-investigation/) involve many judgments, and much ignoring of minor issues. So I would not be surprised if more effort could produce numerous small changes. However I expect the broad outlines to be correct.[5](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-5-2389) II. The discontinuities --------------------------- Large robust discontinuities Here is a quick list of the robust 100-year discontinuous events, which I’ll describe in more detail beneath: * The Pyramid of Djoser, 2650BC (discontinuity in [structure height trends](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-from-the-burj-khalifa/)) * The SS Great Eastern, 1858 (discontinuity in [ship size trends](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-ship-size/)) * The first telegraph, 1858 (discontinuity in [speed of sending a 140 character message across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-transatlantic-message-speed/)) * The second telegraph, 1866 (discontinuity in [speed of sending a 140 character message across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-transatlantic-message-speed/)) * The Paris Gun, 1918 (discontinuity in [altitude reached by man-made means](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-in-altitude-records/)) * The first non-stop transatlantic flight, in a modified WWI bomber, 1919 (discontinuity in both [speed of passenger travel across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-transatlantic-passenger-travel/) and [speed of military payload travel across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-long-range-military-payload-delivery/)) * The George Washington Bridge, 1931 (discontinuity in [longest bridge span](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-bridge-span-length/)) * The first nuclear weapons, 1945 (discontinuity in [relative effectiveness of explosives](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-from-nuclear-weapons/)) * The first ICBM, 1958 (discontinuity in [average speed of military payload crossing the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-long-range-military-payload-delivery/)) * YBa2Cu3O7 as a superconductor, 1987 (discontinuity in [warmest temperature of superconduction](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-the-maximum-superconducting-temperature/)) The Pyramid of Djoser, 2650BC Discontinuity in [*structure height trends](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-from-the-burj-khalifa/)[6](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-6-2389) The Pyramid of Djoser is [considered to be](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Djoser) ‘the earliest colossal stone structure’ in Egypt. According to Wikipedia’s data, it took seven thousand years for the tallest structures to go from five to thirteen meters tall[7](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-7-2389) and then suddenly the Egyptian pyramids shot up to a height of 146.5m over about a hundred years and five successively tallest pyramids. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Saqqara_pyramid_ver_2-300x200.jpg)The Pyramid of Djoser, by Charles J Sharp – Own work, from* [Sharp Photography, sharpphotography](http://www.sharpphotography.co.uk/), [CC BY-SA 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0), [Link](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=32434567)The first of these five is the Pyramid of Djoser, standing 62.5m tall. The second one—[Meidum Pyramid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meidum)—is also a large discontinuity in structure height trends by our calculation, but I judge it not robust, since it is fairly unclear what the continuation of the trend should be after the first discontinuity. As is common, the more basic thing going on seems to be a change in the growth rate, and the discontinuity of the Pyramid of Djoser is just the start of it. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Djoser-300x225.png)The Djoser discontinuity: close up on the preceding trend, cut off at the Pyramid of Djoser![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/StructureRecord-300x225.png)A longer history of record structure heights, showing the isolated slew of pyramidsStrangely, after this spurt of progress, humanity built nothing taller than the tallest pyramid for nearly four thousand years—until [Lincoln Cathedral](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Cathedral) in 1311—and nothing more than twenty percent taller than it until the Eiffel Tower in 1889. The SS *Great Eastern* Discontinuity in [*ship size](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-ship-size/), measured in ‘[builder’s old measurement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builder%27s_Old_Measurement)’[8](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-8-2389) or in displacement.* The SS Great Eastern was a freakishly large ship. For instance, it seems to have weighed about five times as much as any previous ship. As far as I can tell, the reason it existed is that [Isambard Kingdom Brunell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel) thought it would be good. Brunell was a 19th Century engineering hero, rated #2 greatest Briton of all time in a 2002 [BBC poll](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons), who according to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel), ‘revolutionised public transport and modern engineering’ and built ‘dockyards, the Great Western Railway (GWR), a series of steamships including the first propeller-driven transatlantic steamship, and numerous important bridges and tunnels’. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/DisplacementGE-300x225.png)The SS *Great Eastern* compared to the UK Royal Navy’s ships of the line, which were probably not much smaller than the largest ships overall immediately prior to the *Great EasternThe experimental giant sailing steamship idea doesn’t seem to have gone well. The Great Eastern* apparently never had its cargo holds filled, and ran at a deficit for years before being sold and used for laying the second telegraph cable (another source of large discontinuity—see below).[9](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-9-2389) It was designed for transporting passengers to the Far East, but there was never the demand.[10](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-10-2389) It was [purportedly](https://historicaldigression.com/2011/03/28/the-great-eastern-a-cursed-modern-marvel/) rumored to be ‘cursed’, and suffered various ill fortune. On its maiden voyage a boiler exploded, throwing one of the funnels into the air and killing six people.[11](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-11-2389) Later it hit a rock and got a 9-foot gash, which seems to have been hard to fix because the ship was too big for standard repair methods.[12](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-12-2389) We don’t have a whole trend for largest ships, so are using British Royal Navy [ship of the line](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_line_of_the_Royal_Navy) size trends as a proxy against which to compare the Great Eastern.[13](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-13-2389) This gives us discontinuities of around 400 years in both displacement and tonnage ([BOM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builder%27s_Old_Measurement)). ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Great_Eastern-low-quality-300x132.jpg)[The SS Great Eastern](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Eastern.jpg)However that is assuming we expect ship size to increase either linearly or exponentially (our usual expectation). But looking at the ship of the line trends, both displacement and cargo capacity (measured in tonnage, [BOM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builder%27s_Old_Measurement)) seemed to grow at something closer to a hyperbolic curve for some reason—apparently accelerating toward an asymptote in the late 1860s. If we had expected progress to continue this way throughout, then neither trend had any discontinuities, instead of eight or eleven of them. And supposing that overall ship size follows the same hyperbola as the military ship trends, then the Great Eastern’s discontinuities go from around 400 years to roughly 11 or 13 years. Which doesn’t sound big, but since this was about that many years before of the asymptote of the hyperbola at which point arbitrarily large ships were theoretically expected, the discontinuities couldn’t have been much bigger. Our data ended for some reason just around the apparently impending ship size singularity of the late 1860s. But my impression is that not much happened for a while—it [apparently](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-ship-size/) took forty years for a ship larger than the Great Eastern to be built, on many measures. I am unsure what to make of the apparently erroneous and unforced investment in the most absurdly enormous ship happening within a decade or two of the point at which trend extrapolation appears to have suggested arbitrarily large ships. Was Brunell aware of the trend? Did the forces that produced the rest of the trend likewise try to send all the players in the ship-construction economy up the asymptote, where they crashed into some yet unmet constraint? It is at least nice to have more examples of what happens when singularities are reached in the human world. The first transatlantic telegraph Discontinuity in [*speed of sending a 140 character message across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-transatlantic-message-speed/) Until 1858, the fastest way to get a message from New York to London was by ship, and the fastest ships took over a week[14](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-14-2389). Telegraph was [used earlier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_telegraph#Cooke_and_Wheatstone_system) on land, but running it between continents was quite an undertaking. The effort to lay the a transatlantic cable failed numerous times before it became ongoingly functional.[15](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-15-2389) One of those times though, it worked for about a month, and messages were sent.[16](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-16-2389) There were celebrations in the streets. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/H.M.S._%E2%80%9CAGAMEMNON%E2%80%9D_laying_cable-678x381.jpg)[H.M.S. “Agamemnon” laying the Atlantic Telegraph cable in 1858. A whale crosses the line](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:H.M.S._%E2%80%9CAGAMEMNON%E2%80%9D_laying_cable.jpg), R. M. Bryson, from a drawing by R. Dudley, 1865![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/41_William_England_-_Atlantic_telegraph_jubilee_on_Broadway_New_York-678x381.jpg)[A celebration parade for the first transatlantic telegraph cable, Broadway, New York City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_telegraph_cable#/media/File:41_William_England_-_Atlantic_telegraph_jubilee_on_Broadway,_New_York.jpg)The telegraph [could send](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_telegraph_cable#First_contact) a 98 word message in a mere 16 hours. For a message of more than about 1400 words, it would actually have been faster to send it by ship (supposing you already had it written down). So this was a big discontinuity for short messages, but not necessarily any progress at all for longer ones. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/FirstTele-678x381.png)The first transatlantic telegraph cable revolutionized 140 character message speed across the Atlantic OceanThe second transatlantic telegraph* Discontinuity in [*speed of sending a 140 character message across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-transatlantic-message-speed/) After the first working transatlantic telegraph cable (see above) failed in 1858, it was another eight years before the second working cable was finished. Most of that delay was apparently for lack of support.[17](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-17-2389) and the final year seems to have been because the cable broke and the end was lost at sea after over a thousand miles had been laid, leaving the ship to return home and a new company to be established before the next try.[18](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-18-2389) Whereas it [sounds like](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_telegraph_cable#Great_Eastern) it took less than a day to go from the ship carrying the cable arriving in port, and the sending of telegraphs. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/SecondTele-678x381.png)The second telegraph discontinuity: close up on the preceding trend, cut off at the second telegraph. Note that the big discontinuity of the first telegraph cable is now almost invisible.At a glance, on Wikipedia’s [telling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_telegraph_cable), it sounds as though the perseverance of one person—[Cyrus West Field](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_West_Field)—might have affected when fast transatlantic communication appeared by years. He seems to have led all five efforts, supplied substantial money himself, and ongoingly fundraised and formed new companies, even amidst a broader lack of enthusiasm after initial failures. (He was also [given a congressional gold medal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Congressional_Gold_Medal_recipients) for establishing the transatlantic telegraph cable, suggesting the US congress also has this impression.) His actions wouldn’t have affected how much of a discontinuity either telegraph was by much, but it is interesting if such a large development in a seemingly important area might have been accelerated much by a single person. The second telegraph cable was laid by the Great Eastern, the discontinuously large ship of two sections ago. Is there some reason for these two big discontinuities to be connected? For instance, did one somehow cause the other? That doesn’t seem plausible. The main way I can think of that the transatlantic telegraph could have caused the Great Eastern‘s size would be if the economic benefits of being able to lay cable were anticipated and effectively subsidized the ship. I haven’t heard of this being an intended use for the Great Eastern. And given that the first transatlantic telegraph was not laid by the Great Eastern, it seems unlikely that such a massive ship was strictly needed for the success of a second one at around that time, though the second cable used [was apparently around twice as heavy as the first](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_telegraph_cable#Failure_of_the_first_cable). Another possibility is that some other common factor made large discontinuities more possible. For instance, perhaps it was an unusually feasible time and place for solitary technological dreamers to carry out ambitious and economically adventurous projects. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Great_Eastern_1866-678x381.jpg)[Great Eastern* again, this time at Heart’s Content, Newfoundland, where it carried the end of the second transatlantic telegraph cable in 1866](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Eastern_1866.jpg)The first non-stop transatlantic flight Discontinuity in both [*speed of passenger travel across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-transatlantic-passenger-travel/) and* [*speed of military payload travel across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-long-range-military-payload-delivery/) Ships were the fastest way to cross the Atlantic Ocean until the end of World War I. Passenger liners had been getting incrementally faster for about eighty years, and the fastest regular passenger liner was given a special title, ‘[Blue Riband](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Riband)‘. Powered heavier-than-air flight got started in 1903, but at first planes only traveled hundreds of feet, and it took time to expand that to the 1600 or so miles needed to cross the Atlantic in one hop.[19](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-19-2389) The first non-stop transatlantic flight was made shortly after the end of WWI, in 1919. The Daily Mail [had offered](https://www.aerosociety.com/news/the-great-transatlantic-race/) a large cash prize, on hold during the war, and with the resumption of peace, [a slew](https://www.aerosociety.com/news/the-great-transatlantic-race/) of competitors prepared to fly. [Alcock and Brown](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_flight_of_Alcock_and_Brown) were the first to do it successfully, in a modified bomber plane, taking around 16 hours, for an average speed around four times faster than the Blue Riband. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Alcock-Brown-Clifden-678x381.jpg)[Alcock and Brown landed in Irelend, 1919](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_flight#/media/File:Alcock-Brown-Clifden.jpg)One might expect discontinuities to be especially likely in a metric like ‘speed to cross the Atlantic’, which involves a sharp threshold on a non-speed axis for inclusion in the speed contest. For instance if planes incrementally improved on speed and range (and cost and comfort) every year, but couldn’t usefully cross the ocean at all until their range reached 1600 miles, then decades of incremental speed improvements could all hit the transatlantic speed record at once, when the range reaches that number. Is this what happened? It looks like it. The Wright Flyer [apparently](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_Flyer#Specifications_(Wright_Flyer)) had a maximum speed of 30mph. That’s about the record average ocean liner speed in 1909. So if the Wright Flyer had had the range to cross the Atlantic in 1903 at that speed, it would have been about six years ahead of the ship speed trend and wouldn’t have registered as a substantial discontinuity. [20](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-20-2389) But because it didn’t have the range, and because the speed of planes was growing faster than that of ships, in 1919 when planes could at last fly thousands of miles, they were way ahead of ships. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/TAFlight-678x381.png)The transatlantic flight discontinuity: close up on the preceding trend, cut off at the first non-stop transatlantic flight.The George Washington Bridge* Discontinuity in [*longest bridge span](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-bridge-span-length/) A bridge ‘[span](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Span_(engineering))‘ is the distance between two intermediate supports in a bridge. The history of bridge span length is not very smooth, and so arguably full of discontinuities, but the only bridge span that seems clearly way out of distribution to me is the main span of the [George Washington Bridge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Bridge). (See below.) ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/GWBridge-678x381.png)The George Washington Bridge discontinuity: close up on the preceding trend, cut off at the George Washington BridgeI’m not sure what made it so discontinuously long, but it is notably also the world’s busiest motor vehicle bridge ([as of 2016](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Bridge)), connecting New York City with New Jersey, so one can imagine that it was a very unusually worthwhile expanse of water to cross. Another notable feature of it was that it was much thinner relative to its length than long suspension bridges normally were, and lacked the usual ‘trusses’, based on a new theory of bridge design.[21](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-21-2389) ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/George_Washington_Bridge_NY-678x381.jpeg)George Washington Bridge, [via Wikimedia Commons, Photographer: Bob Jagendorf](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:George_Washington_Bridge_NY.JPG)Nuclear weapons* Discontinuity in [*relative effectiveness of explosives](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-from-nuclear-weapons/) The ‘[relative effectiveness factor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent#Relative_effectiveness_factor)‘ of an explosive is how much TNT you would need to do the same job.[22](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-22-2389) Pre-nuclear explosives had traversed the range of relative effectiveness factors from around 0.5 to 2 over about a thousand years, when in 1945 the first nuclear weapons came in at a relative effectiveness of [around 4500](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent#Nuclear_examples)[23](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-23-2389). ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/RelativeEffectiveness-678x381.png)The nuclear weapons discontinuity: close up on the preceding trend, cut off at the first nuclear weaponsA few characteristics of nuclear weapons that could relate to their discontinuousness: New physical phenomenon: nuclear weapons are based on [nuclear fission](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fission#Discovery_of_nuclear_fission), which was recently discovered, and allowed human use of nuclear energy (which exploits the strong fundamental force) whereas past explosives were based on chemical energy (which exploits the electromagnetic force). New forms of energy are rare in human history, and nuclear energy stored in a mass is characteristically much higher than chemical energy stored in it. * Massive investment: the Manhattan Project, which developed the first nuclear weapons, cost around [$23 billion in 2018 dollars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project). This was presumably a sharp increase over previous explosives research spending. * Late understanding: it looks like nuclear weapons were only understood as a possibility after it was well worth trying to develop them at a huge scale. * Mechanism involves a threshold: nuclear weapons are based on nuclear chain reactions, which require a [critical mass](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_mass) of material (how much varies by circumstance). I discussed whether and how these things might be related to the discontinuity in 2015 [here](https://aiimpacts.org/whats-up-with-nuclear-weapons/) (see Gwern’s comment) and [here](https://aiimpacts.org/ai-and-the-big-nuclear-discontinuity/). ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Trinity_-_Jumbo_brought_to_site-678x381.jpg)[Preparation for the Trinity Test, the first detonation of a nuclear weapon](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Trinity_-_Jumbo_brought_to_site.jpg)![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Trinity_-_Explosion_15s-678x381.jpg)[The trinity test explosion after 15 seconds](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Trinity_-_Explosion_15s.jpg)The Paris Gun Discontinuity in [*altitude reached by man-made means](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-in-altitude-records/) The [Paris Gun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun) was the largest artillery gun in WWI, used by the Germans to bomb Paris from 75 miles away. It could shoot 25 miles into the air, whereas the previous record we know of was around 1 mile into the air (also shot by a German gun).[24](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-24-2389) ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Parisgesch1-678x381.jpeg)[The Paris Gun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun#/media/File:Parisgesch1.JPG), able to [shell Paris from 75 miles away](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun)![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ParisGunkm-678x381.png)The Paris Gun discontinuity: close up on the preceding trend of highest altitudes reached by man-made means, cut off at the Paris GunI don’t have much idea why the Paris Gun traveled so much higher than previous weapons. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun) suggests that its goals were psychological rather than physically effective warfare: > As military weapons, the Paris Guns were not a great success: the payload was small, the barrel required frequent replacement, and the guns’ accuracy was good enough for only city-sized targets. The German objective was to build a psychological weapon to attack the morale of the Parisians, not to destroy the city itself.* > > This might explain an unusual trade-off of distance (and therefore altitude) against features like accuracy and destructive ability. On this story, building a weapon to shoot a projectile 25 miles into the air had been feasible for some time, but wasn’t worth it. This highlights the more general possibility that the altitude trend was perhaps more driven by the vagaries of demand for different tangentially-altitude-related ends than by technological progress. The German military [apparently](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun) dismantled the Paris Guns before departing, and did not comply with a Treaty of Versailles requirement to turn over a complete gun to the Allies, so the guns’ capabilities are not known with certainty. However it sounds like the shells were clearly observed in Paris, and the relevant gun was clearly observed around 70 miles away, so the range is probably not ambiguous, and the altitude reached by a projectile is closely related to the range. So uncertainty around the gun probably doesn’t affect our conclusions. The first intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) Discontinuity in [*average speed of military payload crossing the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-long-range-military-payload-delivery/) For most of history, the fastest way to send a military payload across the Atlantic Ocean was to put it on a boat or plane, much like a human passenger. So the [maximum speed of sending a military payload across the Atlantic Ocean](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-long-range-military-payload-delivery/) followed the [analogous passenger travel trend](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-transatlantic-passenger-travel/). However in August 1957, the two abruptly diverged with the [first successful test](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile#Cold_War) of an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM)—the Russian [R-7 Semyorka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-7_Semyorka). Early ICBMs traveled at around 11 thousand miles per hour, taking the minimum time to send a military payload between Moscow and New York for instance from around 14 hours to around 24 minutes.[25](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-25-2389) ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ICBM-678x381.png)The ICBM discontinuity: close up on the preceding trend, cut off at the first ICBMA ‘[ballistic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile)‘ missile is unpowered during most of its flight, and so follows a [ballistic trajectory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projectile_motion)—the path of anything thrown into the air. Interestingly, this means that in order to go far enough to traverse the Atlantic, it has to be going a certain speed. Ignoring the curvature of the Earth or friction, this would be about 7000 knots for the shortest transatlantic distance—70% of its actual speed, and enough to be hundreds of years of discontinuity in the late 50s.[26](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-26-2389) So assuming ballistic missiles crossed the ocean when they did, they had to produce a large discontinuity in the speed trend. Does this mean the ICBM was required to be a large discontinuity? No—there would be no discontinuity if rockets were improving in line with planes, and so transatlantic rockets were developed later, or ICBM-speed planes earlier. But it means that even if the trends for rocket distance and speed are incremental and start from irrelevantly low numbers, if they have a faster rate of growth than planes, and the threshold in distance required implies a speed way above the current record, then a large discontinuity must happen This situation also means that you could plausibly have predicted the discontinuity ahead of time, if you were watching the trends. Seeing the rocket speed trend traveling upward faster than the plane speed trend, you could forecast that when it hit a speed that implied an intercontinental range, intercontinental weapons delivery speed would jump upward. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Atlas-B_ICBM-482x381.jpg)[An SM-65 Atlas, the first US ICBM, first launched in 1957](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercontinental_ballistic_missile#/media/File:Atlas-B_ICBM.jpg) (1958 image)YBa2Cu3O7 as a superconductor* Discontinuity in [*warmest temperature of superconduction](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-the-maximum-superconducting-temperature/) When an ordinary material conducts electricity, it has some [resistance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistance_and_conductance) (or opposition to the flow of electrons) which [takes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_resistance_and_conductance) energy to overcome. The resistance can be gradually lowered by cooling the material down. For some materials though, there is a temperature threshold below which their resistance abruptly drops to zero, meaning for instance that electricity can flow through them indefinitely with no input of energy. These are ‘[superconductors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductivity)‘. Superconductors were [discovered](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductivity) in 1911. [The first one observed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductivity#History_of_superconductivity), mercury, could superconduct below 4.2 Kelvin. From then on, more superconductors were discovered, and the warmest observed temperatures of superconduction gradually grew. In 1957, [BCS theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCS_theory) was developed to explain the phenomenon (winning its authors a Nobel Prize), and [was understood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductivity#High-temperature_superconductivity) to rule out superconduction above temperatures of around 30K. But [in 1986](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductivity#High-temperature_superconductivity) a new superconductor was found with a threshold temperature around 30K, and composed of a surprising material: a ‘ceramic’ involving oxygen rather than an alloy.[27](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-27-2389) This also [won](https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1987/press-release/) a Nobel Prize, and instigated a rapid series of discoveries in similar materials—’[cuprates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuprate_superconductor)‘—which shot the highest threshold temperatures to around 125 K by 1988 (before continued upward). ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/YBa2Cu3O7-678x381.png)The high temperature superconductor discontinuity: close up on the preceding trend, cut off at [YBa2Cu3O7](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yttrium_barium_copper_oxide)The first of the cuprates, LaBaCuO4, seems mostly surprising for theoretical reasons, rather than being radically above the temperature trend.[28](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-28-2389) The big jump came the following year, from [YBa2Cu3O7](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yttrium_barium_copper_oxide), with its threshold at over 90 K.[29](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-29-2389) This seems like a striking instance of the story where the new technology doesn’t necessarily cause a jump so much as a new rate of progress. I wonder if there was a good reason for the least surprising cuprate to be discovered first. My guess is that there were many unsurprising ones, and substances are only famous if they were discovered before more exciting substances. ![](https://aiimpacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Stable_Levitation_of_a_magnet_on_a_superconductor-678x381.jpg)[Magnet levitating on top of a superconductor of YBa2Cu3O7 cooled to merely -196°C (77.15 Kelvin).](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stable_Levitation_of_a_magnet_on_a_superconductor.jpg) Superconductors can allow magnetic levitation, [consistently repelling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdiamagnetism) permanent magnets [while stably pinned in place](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_pinning). (Picture: [Julien Bobroff (user:Jubobroff), Frederic Bouquet (user:Fbouquet), LPS, Orsay, France](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stable_Levitation_of_a_magnet_on_a_superconductor.jpg) / [CC BY-SA](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0))It is interesting to me that this is associated with a substantial update in very basic science, much like nuclear weapons. I’m not sure if that makes basic science updates ripe for discontinuity, or if there are just enough of them that some would show up in this list. (Though glancing at [this list](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_scientific_discoveries#20th_century) suggests to me that there were about 70 at this level in the 20th Century, and probably many fewer immediately involving a new capability rather than e.g. an increased understanding of pulsars. Penicillin also makes that list though, and we didn’t find any discontinuities it caused.) Moderate robust discontinuities (10-100 years of extra progress):* --------------------------------------------------------------------- The 10-100 year discontinuous events were: * HMS Warrior, 1860 (discontinuity in both [Royal Navy ship tonnage and Royal Navy ship displacement](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-ship-size/)[30](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-30-2389)) * Eiffel Tower, 1889 (discontinuity in [tallest existing freestanding structure height](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-from-the-burj-khalifa/), and in other height trends non-robustly) * Fairey Delta 2, 1956 (discontinuity in [airspeed](http://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-flight-airspeed-records/)) * Pellets shot into space, 1957, measured after one day of travel (discontinuity in [altitude achieved by man-made means](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-in-altitude-records/))[31](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-31-2389) * Burj Khalifa, 2009 (discontinuity in [height of tallest building ever](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-from-the-burj-khalifa/)) Other places we looked -------------------------- Here are places we didn’t find robust discontinuities[32](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-32-2389)) – follow the links to read about any in detail: * [Alexnet](https://aiimpacts.org/effect-of-alexnet-on-historic-trends-in-image-recognition/): This convolutional neural network made important progress on labeling images correctly, but was only a few years ahead of the previous trend of success in the ImageNet contest (which was also a very short trend). * [Light intensity](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-light-intensity/): We measured argon flashes in 1943 as a large discontinuity, but I judge it non-robust. The rate of progress shot up at around that time though, from around half a percent per year to an average of 90% per year over the next 65 years, the rest of it involving increasingly intense lasers. * [Real price of books](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-book-production/): After the invention of the printing press, the real price of books seems to have dropped sharply, relative to a recent upward trajectory. However this was not long after a similarly large drop purportedly from paper replacing parchment. So in the brief history we have data for, the second drop is not unusual. We are also too uncertain about this data to confidently conclude much. * [Manuscripts and books produced over the last hundred years](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-book-production/): This was another attempt to find a discontinuity from the printing press. We measured several discontinuities, including one after the printing press. However, it is not very surprising for a somewhat noisy trend with data points every hundred years to be a hundred years ahead of the best-guess curve sometimes. The discontinuity at the time of the printing press was not much larger than others in nearby centuries. The clearer effect of the printing press at this scale appears to be a new faster growth trajectory. * [Bandwidth distance product](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-telecommunications-performance/): This measures how much can be sent how far by communication media. It was just pretty smooth. * [Total transatlantic bandwidth](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-telecommunications-performance/): This is how much cable goes under the Atlantic Ocean. It was also pretty smooth. * [Whitney’s cotton gin](https://aiimpacts.org/effect-of-eli-whitneys-cotton-gin-on-historic-trends-in-cotton-ginning/): Cotton gins remove seeds from cotton. Whitney’s gin is often considered to have revolutionized the cotton industry and maybe contributed to the American Civil War. We looked at its effects on pounds of cotton ginned per person per day, and our best guess is that it was a moderate discontinuity, but the trend is pretty noisy and the available data is pretty dubious. Interestingly, progress on gins was speeding up a lot prior to Whitney (the two previous data points look like much bigger discontinuities, but we are less sure that we aren’t just missing data that would make them part of fast incremental progress). We also looked at evidence on whether Whitney’s gin might have been a discontinuity in the more inclusive metric of cost per value of cotton ginned, but this was unclear. As evidence about the impact of Whitney’s gin, US cotton production appears to us to have been on the same radically fast trajectory before it as after it, and it seems people continued to use various other ginning methods for at least sixty years. * [Group index of light or pulse delay of light](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-slow-light-technology/): These are two different measures of how slowly light can be made to move through a medium. It can now be ‘stopped’ in some sense, though not the strict normal one. We measured two discontinuities in group index, but both were relative to a fairly unclear trend, so don’t seem robust. * [Particle accelerator performance](https://aiimpacts.org/particle-accelerator-performance-progress/): natural measures include center-of-mass energy, particle energy, and lorentz factor achieved. All of these progressed fairly smoothly. * [US syphilis cases, US syphilis deaths, effectiveness of syphilis treatment, or inclusive costs of syphilis treatment](https://aiimpacts.org/penicillin-and-historic-syphilis-trends/): We looked at syphilis trends because we thought penicillin might have caused a discontinuity in something, and syphilis was apparently a key use case. But we didn’t find any discontinuities there. US syphilis deaths became much rarer over a period around its introduction, but the fastest drop slightly predates plausible broad use of penicillin, and there are no discontinuities of more than ten years in either US deaths or cases. Penicillin doesn’t even appear to be much more effective than its predecessor, conditional on being used.[33](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-33-2389) Rather, it seems to have been much less terrible to use (which in practice makes treatment more likely). That suggested to us that progress might have been especially visible in ‘inclusive costs of syphilis treatment’. There isn’t ready quantitative data for that, but we tried to get a rough qualitative picture of the landscape. It doesn’t look clearly discontinuous, because the trend was already radically improving. The preceding medicine sounds terrible to take, yet was nicknamed ‘[magic bullet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsphenamine)’ and is considered ‘[the first effective treatment for syphilis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsphenamine)‘. Shortly beforehand, [mercury was still a usual treatment](https://jmvh.org/article/syphilis-its-early-history-and-treatment-until-penicillin-and-the-debate-on-its-origins/) and deliberately contracting malaria had recently been added to the toolbox. * [Nuclear weapons on cost-effectiveness of explosives](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-from-nuclear-weapons/): Using nuclear weapons as explosives was not clearly cheaper than using traditional explosives, let alone discontinuously cheaper. However these are very uncertain estimates. * [Maximum landspeed](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-land-speed-records/): Landspeed saw vast and sudden changes in the rate of progress, but the developments were so close together that none was very far from average progress between the first point and the most recent one. If we more readily expect short term trends to continue (which arguably makes sense when they are as well-defined as these), then we find several moderate discontinuities. Either way, the more basic thing going on appears to be very distinct changes in the rate of progress. * [AI chess performance](https://aiimpacts.org/historic-trends-in-chess-ai/): This was so smooth that a point four years ahead of the trend in 2008 is eye-catching. * [Breech-loading rifles on the firing rate of guns](https://aiimpacts.org/effects-of-breech-loading-rifles-on-historic-trends-in-firearm-progress/): Breech-loading rifles were suggested to us as a potential discontinuity, and firing rate seemed like a metric on which they plausibly excelled. However there seem to have been other guns with similarly fast fire rates at the time breech-loading rifles were introduced. We haven’t checked whether they produced a discontinuity in some other metric (e.g. one that combines several features), or if anything else caused discontinuities in firing rate. III. Some observations ========================== Prevalence of discontinuities Some observations on the overall prevalence of discontinuities: * [32%](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=M45) of trends we investigated saw at least one large, robust discontinuity (though note that trends were selected for being discontinuous, and were a very non-uniform collection of topics, so this could at best inform an upper bound on how likely an arbitrary trend is to have a large, robust discontinuity somewhere in a chunk of its history) * [53%](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=I45) of trends saw any discontinuity (including smaller and non-robust ones), and in expectation a trend saw [more than two](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=I50) of these discontinuities. * On average, each trend had [0.001](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AG43) large robust discontinuities per year, or [0.002](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AG49) for those trends with at least one at some point[34](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-34-2389) * On average [1.4%](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AE43) of new data points in a trend make for large robust discontinuities, or [4.9%](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AE49) for trends which have one. * On average [14%](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AB43) of total progress in a trend came from large robust discontinuities (or [16%](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AC43) of logarithmic progress), or [38%](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AB49) among trends which have at least one This all suggests that discontinuities, and large discontinuities in particular, are more common than I thought previously (though still not that common). One reason for this change is that I was treating difficulty of finding good cases of discontinuous progress as more informative than I do now. I initially thought there weren’t many around because suggested discontinuities often turned out not to be discontinuous, and there weren’t a huge number of promising suggestions. However we later got more good suggestions, and found many discontinuities where we weren’t necessarily looking for them. So I’m inclined to think there are a few around, but our efforts at seeking them out specifically just weren’t very effective. Another reason for a larger number now is that our more systematic methods now turn up many cases that don’t look very remarkable to the naked eye (those I have called non-robust), which we did not necessarily notice earlier. How important these are is less clear. Discontinuities go with changes in the growth rate It looks like discontinuities are often associated with changes in the growth rate. At a glance, 15 of the 38 trends had a relatively sharp change in their rate of progress at least once in their history. These changes in the growth rate very often coincided with discontinuities—in fourteen of the fifteen trends, at least one sharp change coincided with one of the discontinuities.[35](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-35-2389) If this is a real relationship, it means that if you see a discontinuity, there is a much heightened chance of further fast progress coming up. This seems important, but is a quick observation and should probably be checked and investigated further if we wanted to rely on it. Where do we see discontinuities? Among these case studies, when is a development more likely to produce a discontinuity in a trend?[36](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-36-2389) Some observations so far, based on the broader class including non-robust discontinuities, except where noted: * When the trend is about products not technical measures If we loosely divide trends into ‘technical’ (to do with scientific results e.g. highest temperature of a superconductor), ‘product’ (to do with individual objects meant for use e.g. cotton ginned by a cotton gin, height of building), ‘industry’ (to do with entire industries e.g. books produced in the UK) or ‘societal’ (to do with features of non-industry society e.g. syphilis deaths in the US), then ‘product’ trends saw around [four times as many](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=600317213&range=Z56:AA56) discontinuities as technical trends, and the other two are too small to say much. (Product trends are less than twice as likely to have any discontinuities, so the difference was largely in how many discontinuities they have per trend.) * When the trend is about less important ‘features’ rather than overall performance If we loosely divide trends into ‘features’ (things that are good but not the main point of the activity), ‘performance proxies’ (things that are roughly the point of the activity) and ‘value proxies’ (things that roughly measure the net value of the activity, accounting for its costs as well as performance), then [features were more discontinuous than performance proxies](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=600317213&range=AD56:AE57).[37](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-37-2389) * When the trend is about ‘product features’ (Unsurprisingly, given the above.) Overall, the 16 ‘[product features](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=600317213&range=K1)’ we looked at had [4.6 discontinuities](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=600317213&range=AG56:AH56) per trend on average, whereas the 22 other metrics had 0.7 discontinuities per trend on average ([2 vs. 0.3 for large discontinuities](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=600317213&range=AG48:AH48)).[38](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-38-2389) ‘Product features’ include for instance sizes of ships and fire rate of guns, whereas non-product features include total books produced per century, syphilis deaths in the US, and highest temperature of known superconductors. * When the development occurs after 1800 Most of the discontinuities we found [happened after 1800](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1171388482&range=H16:I18). This could be a measurement effect, since much more recent data is available, and if we can’t find enough data to be confident, we are not deeming things discontinuities. For instance, the two obscure [cotton gins](http://aiimpacts.org/effect-of-eli-whitneys-cotton-gin-on-historic-trends-in-cotton-ginning/) before Whitney’s famous 1793 one that look responsible for huge jumps according to our sparse and untrustworthy 1700s data. The concentration of discontinuities since 1800 might also be related to progress speeding up in the last couple of centuries. Interestingly, since 1800 the rate of discontinuities doesn’t seem to be obviously increasing. For instance, [seven of nine](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1171388482&range=K111) robust discontinuous events since 1900 happened by 1960.[39](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-39-2389) * When the trend is about travel speed across the Atlantic Four of our ten robust discontinuous events of over a hundred years came from the three transatlantic travel speed trends we considered. They are also [high on non-robust discontinuities](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AQ63:AR66). * When the trend doesn’t have a consistent exponential or linear shape To measure discontinuities, we had to extrapolate past progress. We did this at each point, based on what the curve looked like so far. Some trends we consistently called exponential, some consistently linear, and some sometimes seemed linear and sometimes exponential. The ten in this third lot all had discontinuities, whereas the 20 that consistently looked either exponential or linear were about [half as likely](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=Q45) to have discontinuities.[40](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-40-2389) * When the trend is in the size of some kind of object ‘Object size’ trends [had](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AJ56) over five discontinuities per trend, compared to the average of [around 2](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1906429870&range=AQ63) across all trends. * When [Isambard Kingdom Brunel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel) is somehow involved I mentioned Brunel above in connection with the Great Eastern. As well as designing that discontinuously large ship, which lay one of the discontinuously fast transatlantic telegraph cables, he designed the non-robustly discontinuous earlier ship Warrior. I feel like there are other obvious patterns that I’m missing. Some other semi-obvious patterns that I’m noticing but don’t have time to actually check now, I am putting in the next section. More things to observe There are lots of other interesting things to ask about this kind of data, in particular regarding what kinds of things tend to see jumps. Here are some questions that we might answer in future, or which we welcome you to try to answer (and hope our data helps with): * Are trends less likely to see discontinuities when more effort is going more directly into maximizing them? (Do discontinuities arise easily in trends people don’t care about?) * How does the chance of discontinuity change with time, or with speed of progress? (Many trends get much faster toward the end, and there are more discontinuities toward the end, but how are they related at a finer scale?) * Do discontinuities come from ‘insights’ more than from turning known cranks of progress? * Are AI related trends similar to other trends? The two AI-related trends we investigated saw no substantial discontinuities, but two isn’t very many, and there is a persistent idea that once you can do something with AI, you can do it fast.[41](https://aiimpacts.org/discontinuous-progress-in-history-an-update/#easy-footnote-bottom-41-2389) * Are trends more continuous as they depend on more ‘parts’? (e.g. is maximum fuel energy density more jumpy than maximum engine power, which is more jumpy than maximum car speed?) This would make intuitive sense, but is somewhat at odds with the 8 ‘basic physics related’ trends we looked at not being especially jumpy. * How does the specificity of trends relate to their jumpiness? I’d intuitively expect jumpier narrow trends to average out in aggregate to something smooth (for instance, so that maximum Volkswagen speed is more jumpy than maximum car speed, which is more jumpy than maximum transport speed, which is more jumpy than maximum man-made object speed). But I’m not sure that makes sense, and a contradictory observation is that discontinuities or sudden rate changes happen when a continuous narrow trend shoots up and intersects the broader trend. For instance, if record rocket altitude is continuously increasing, and record non-rocket altitude is continuously increasing more slowly but is currently ahead, then [overall altitude](http://aiimpacts.org/discontinuity-in-altitude-records/) will have some kind of corner in it where rockets surpass non-rockets. If you drew a line through liquid fuel rockets, pellets would have been less surprising, but they were surprising in terms of the broader measure. * What does a more random sample of trends look like? * What is the distribution of step sizes in a progress trend? (Looking at small ones as well as discontinuities.) If it generally follows a recognizable distribution, that could provide more information about the chance of rare large steps. It might also help recognize trends that are likely to have large discontinuities based on their observed distribution of smaller steps. * Relatively abrupt changes in the growth rate seem common. Are these in fact often abrupt rather than ramping up slowly? (Are discontinuities in the derivative relevantly different from more object-level discontinuities, for our purposes?) * How often is a ‘new kind of thing’ responsible for discontinuities? (e.g. the first direct flight and the first telegraph cable produced big discontinuities in trends that had previously been topped by ships for some time.) How often are they responsible for changes in the growth rate? * If you drew a line through liquid fuel rockets, it seems like pellets may not be surprise, but they were because of the broader measure. How often is that a thing? I think a similar thing may have happened with the altitude records, and the land speed records, both also with rockets in particular. In both of those // similar thing happened with rockets in particular in land-speed and altitude? Could see trend coming up from below for some time. * Is more fundamental science more likely to be discontinuous? * With planes and ICBMs crossing the ocean, there seemed to be a pattern where incremental progress had to pass a threshold on some dimension before incremental progress on a dimension of interest mattered, which gave rise to discontinuity. Is that a common pattern? (Is that a correct way to think about what was going on?) * If a thing sounds like a big deal, is it likely to be discontinuous? My impression was that these weren’t very closely connected, nor entirely disconnected. Innovations popularly considered a big deal were often not discontinuous, as far as we could tell. For instance penicillin seemed to help with syphilis a lot, but we didn’t find any actual discontinuity in anything. And we measured Whitney’s cotton gin as producing a moderate discontinuity in cotton ginned per person per day, but it isn’t robust, and there look to have been much larger jumps from earlier more obscure gins. On the other hand, nuclear weapons are widely considered a huge deal, and were a big discontinuity. It would be nice to check this more systematically. IV. Summary =============== * Looking at past technological progress can help us tell whether AI trends are likely to be discontinuous or smooth * We looked for discontinuities in 38 technological trends * We found ten events that produced robust discontinuities of over a hundred years in at least one trend. (Djoser, Great Eastern, Telegraphs, Bridge, transatlantic flight, Paris Gun, ICBM, nukes, high temperature superconductors.) * We found [53](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMIZ57Ka9-ZYednnGeonC-NqwGC7dKiHN9S-TAxfVdQ/edit#gid=1994197408&range=A95) events that produced smaller or less robust discontinuities * The average rate of large robust discontinuities per year across trends was about 0.1%, but the chance of a given level of progress arising in a large robust discontinuity was around 14% * Discontinuities were not randomly distributed: some classes of metric, some times, and some types of event seem to make them more likely or more numerous. We mostly haven’t investigated these in depth. * Growth rates sharply changed in many trends, and this seemed strongly associated with discontinuities. (If you experience a discontinuity, it looks like there’s a good chance you’re hitting a new rate of progress, and should expect more of that.)
60e46033-7ad4-4d09-b1f4-d25d798f8656	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Debate and Dialectic Election season is over in the US, but folks are still talking about how divided political conversation is. We hear that people are trapped in filter bubbles that limit their exposure to varying opinions and that America is more divided than ever thanks to modern media enabling our tribalism. And although I suspect we are primarily seeing a return to normal levels of tribalism from the unusual dream time of cosmopolitanism enabled by recent mass migration to cities that ended in the 1970s, there is a deeper source of divide found in the structure of our public conversations that lies beneath the stormy seas of politics. Specifically, most public political discussion is debate. News programs do this explicitly both when they organize formal debates between candidates and everyday when they ask experts to argue policy. Politicians and experts also do this implicitly when they give solo speeches by speaking in the context of what others have said and arguing for their positions against others. And given how politicians and experts are often criticized for going “off point” when they fail to maximize their opportunities to argue for their positions, it seems there is little room for anything other than debate in political discourse. A similar pattern exists outside politics. Professors debate contentious academic topics. Theologians contest the fine points of religion. Lawyers argue cases to convince judges and juries. People even debate against themselves by making pro/con lists. All of these are attempts to find the truth, to understand reality as it is, and all do so through adversarial talk. If this is what you’re used to this probably seems normal, but there is a fundamental problem with seeking truth through debate. To understand why, consider what’s happening in debate from a game theoretic perspective. Two parties, A and B, are presenting information to a third party, C, who will use the information to develop beliefs. The payout is something like this: C win
3b16208e-91b3-492d-8182-b0118fced2d3	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/arxiv	Arxiv	Measuring the Algorithmic Efficiency of Neural Networks Measuring the Algorithmic Efﬁciency of Neural NetworksDanny Hernandez⇤OpenAIdanny@openai.comTom B. BrownOpenAItom@openai.comAbstractThree factors drive the advance of AI: algorithmic innovation, data, and the amount ofcompute available for training. Algorithmic progress has traditionally been more difﬁcultto quantify than compute and data. In this work, we argue that algorithmic progress hasan aspect that is both straightforward to measure and interesting: reductions over timein the compute needed to reach past capabilities. We show that the number of ﬂoating-point operations required to train a classiﬁer to AlexNet-level performance on ImageNethas decreased by a factor of 44x between 2012 and 2019. This corresponds to algorithmicefﬁciency doubling every 16 months over a period of 7 years. Notably, this outpaces theoriginal Moore’s law rate of improvement in hardware efﬁciency (11x over this period).We observe that hardware and algorithmic efﬁciency gains multiply and can be on a similarscale over meaningful horizons, which suggests that a good model of AI progress shouldintegrate measures from both. ⇤Danny Hernandez led the research. Tom Brown paired on initial experiments, scoping, and debugging. Contents1 Introduction31.1 Measuring algorithmic progress in AI is critical to the ﬁeld, policymakers, and industry leaders31.2 Efﬁciency is the primary way we measure algorithmic progress on classic computer scienceproblems. We can apply the same lens to machine learning by holding performance constant32 Related Work42.1 Algorithmic progress had similar rate to Moore’s Law in some domains over decades . . . .42.2 Linear programming gains were well-deﬁned, steady, and faster than Moore’s Law for 21 years42.3 184x reduction in training cost (in dollars) to get to ResNet-50 performance since 2017 . . .52.4 We can estimate costly-to-observe algorithmic efﬁciency improvements through scaling laws52.5 Total investment in AI through private startups, public offerings, and mergers/acquisitionswent up 5x between 2012 and 2018 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .63 Methods63.1 Main result primarily based on existing open source re-implementations of popular models .63.2 We made few hyperparameter adjustments between architectures and did minimal tuning . .64 Results74.1 Key Result: 44x less compute needed to get to AlexNet-level performance . . . . . . . . . .74.2 FLOPs based learning curves can help clarify comparisons between models . . . . . . . . .94.3 We observed a similar rate of progress for ResNet-50 level classiﬁcation performance andfaster rates of efﬁciency improvement in Go, Dota, and Machine Translation . . . . . . . . .95 Discussion105.1 We attribute the 44x efﬁciency gains to sparsity, batch normalization, residual connections,architecture search, and appropriate scaling . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .105.2 It’s unclear the degree to which the observed efﬁciency trends generalize to other AI tasks .115.3 Why new capabilities are probably a larger portion of progress than observed efﬁciency gains125.4 We estimate a 7.5 million times increase in the effective training compute available to thelargest AI experiments between 2012 and 2018 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .125.5 It’s possible there’s an algorithmic Moore’s Law for optimization problems of interest . . . .145.6 Research provides leading indicators of the future economic impact of AI . . . . . . . . . .155.7 Major limitations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .156 Conclusion157 Acknowledgements 16A Calculations for efﬁciency improvements in Go, Dota, and Machine Translation 18B Calculations for efﬁciency improvements in image classiﬁcation 19C Accuracy achieved in relevant models 202 1 Introduction1.1 Measuring algorithmic progress in AI is critical to the ﬁeld, policymakers, and industry leadersThere’s widespread agreement there’s been impressive progress in AI/ML in the domains of vision, naturallanguage, and game playing in the last decade [Krizhevsky et al., 2012, Xie et al., 2016, Silver et al., 2018].However, there’s massive disagreement as to how much progress in capabilities we should expect in the nearand long term [Grace et al., 2017]. For this reason, we believe measuring overall progress in AI/ML is acrucial question, because it can ground the discussion in evidence. Measuring AI progress is critical to poli-cymakers, economists, industry leaders, potential researchers, and others trying to navigate this disagreementand decide how much money and attention to invest in AI.For example, the compute used by the largest AI training runs per year grew at 300,000x between 2012 and2018 [Amodei & Hernandez, 2018]. Given the divergence from the past trend of approximately Moore’sLaw level growth for such training runs, [Sastry et al., 2019] suggests policymakers increase funding forcompute resources for academia, so they can continue to do the types of AI research that are becoming moreexpensive. Measurements of AI progress inform policymakers that are making such decisions.Hardware trends are relatively quantiﬁable. Moore’s Law explains much of the advance from mainframes, topersonal computers, to omnipresent smartphones [Moore, 1965]. Better measurement of scientiﬁc progresshas the potential for a lot of impact on a variety of fronts. Given the existing understanding of key hardwaretrends, we were primarily interested in measures that represented exclusively algorithmic improvement thatcould help paint a picture of the overall progress of the ﬁeld.We present measurements of algorithmic efﬁciency state of the arts over time that:1.Are informative to a wide audience of decision makers2.Help measure novel contributions produced with smaller amounts of compute1.2 Efﬁciency is the primary way we measure algorithmic progress on classic computer scienceproblems. We can apply the same lens to machine learning by holding performance constantIn a classic computer science problem like sorting, algorithmic quality is primarily measured in terms of howcost asymptotically increases with problem difﬁculty, generally denoted in Big O Notation. For example,quicksort [Hoare, 1962] hasO(nlogn)average cost in terms of operations to ﬁnd a perfect solution whereasmany sorting algorithms areO(n2)(wherenis the length of the list to be sorted). It’s impractical to performsimilar analysis for deep learning, because we’re looking for approximate solutions and don’t have as clear ameasure of problem difﬁculty. For these reasons, in machine learning, algorithmic progress is often presentedin terms of new states of the art, like a 1% absolute increase in top-5 accuracy on ImageNet, ignoring cost.It’s difﬁcult to reason about overall progress in terms of a large collection of such measures, because:1.Performance is often measured in different units (accuracy, BLEU, points, ELO, cross-entropy loss,etc) and gains on many of the metrics are hard to interpret. For instance going from 94.99% accuracyto 99.99% accuracy is much more impressive than going from 89% to 94%.2.The problems are unique and their difﬁculties aren’t comparable quantitively, so assessment requiresgaining an intuition for each problem.3.Most research focuses on reporting overall performance improvements rather than efﬁciency im-provements, so additional work is required to disentangle the gains due to algorithmic efﬁciencyfrom the gains due to additional computation.4.The benchmarks of interest are being solved more rapidly, which exacerbates 1) and 2). For instanceit took 15 years to get to human-level performance on MNIST [LeCun et al., 1998], 7 years onImageNet [Deng et al., 2009, Russakovsky et al., 2015], and GLUE [Wang et al., 2018] only lasted9 months [Devlin et al., 2018, Liu et al., 2019].We show that we can gain clear insights into efﬁciency trends by analyzing training costs while holdingperformance constant. We focused on training efﬁciency rather than inference efﬁciency, because we’re moreinterested in what systems are possible to produce than how much it costs to run those systems. Though wenote increased inference efﬁciency can have important economic implications [van den Oord et al., 2017]. Inthe research setting, we’ve typically found ourselves FLOPS bound rather than memory or communication3 bound. So we measured total ﬂoating-point operations used in training rather than parameters or anothermeasure of efﬁciency.We focused on AlexNet-level performance, which we measured as 79.1% top-5 accuracy on ImageNet.AlexNet kicked off the wave of interest in neural networks and ImageNet is still a benchmark of wide in-terest, so this measure provided a long running trend to analyze.2 Related Work2.1 Algorithmic progress had similar rate to Moore’s Law in some domains over decadesGrace compared algorithmic progress to hardware progress looked at over several decades in the domains ofchess, go, physics simulations, mixed integer programming, and SAT solvers [Grace, 2013]. Grace’s overallconclusion wasMany of these areas appear to experience fast improvement, though the data are oftennoisy. For tasks in these areas, gains from algorithmic progress have been roughly ﬁfty toone hundred percent as large as those from hardware progress. Improvements tend to beincremental, forming a relatively smooth curve on the scale of yearsFor the most part, these estimates and their interpretation require substantial amounts of judgment. Forinstance, with chess and Go the approach was to use the available literature to estimate what kinds of returnscame from a hardware doubling and then attribute all ELO improvement not explained by Moore’s law tosoftware. Additionally, Grace suggests we treat these estimates as "optimistic" rather than representative,because of increased saliency of problems that are making fast progress, problems with good measures beinglikely to progress faster, and the potential motivations of authors. Regardless, we think this related workshows that hardware and algorithmic progress can be on a similar scale, and that even a relatively simplemodel of progress should consider integrating measures from both domains.Progress on mixed integer programming was particularly straightforward to measure, so we’ve extended theoriginal analysis of that domain below [Bixby, 2012].2.2 Linear programming gains were well-deﬁned, steady, and faster than Moore’s Law for 21 yearsUnlike some other optimization domains Grace looked at, linear programming was of commercial interestfor a long period. Progress is easy to track in this domain over this 21 year period because there were distinctreleases of commercial software (CPLEX and Gurobi) that can be compared with hardware held ﬁxed.The trend of a 2x speedup every 13 months observed in Figure 1 is surprisingly consistent over a long timehorizon. The smooth progress is partially explained by the measure being an aggregation of many problemsof varying difﬁculty. Over this time Moore’s Law yielded an efﬁciency gain of approximately 1500x.Caveats1.It’s notable that the benchmark was designed and the analysis was performed by the CEO of Gurobi(a commercial MIPS solver) and that he had an incentive to demonstrate large amounts of progress.2.It’s worth pointing out the implications of the maximum search time of 30,000s for the optimalsolution. When it took longer than 30,000s for the solver to ﬁnd the optimal solution, 30,000sis what would be recorded. It’s expected that the maximum search time would have been invokedmore for earlier, weaker solvers. Thus, the maximum search time made earlier solvers look relativelystronger, making the overall estimate conservative for this benchmark. We think using a maximumsearch time is reasonable, but we expect the overall speedup is sensitive to it. In this sense, thesemeasurements are a little different than the AlexNet accuracy measurements, where we waited forthe capability to be demonstrated before measuring progress.3.This is the related domain with highest amount of measured algorithmic efﬁciency progress we’reaware of for this period of time.4 Cumulative speedup1101001000100001000001000000 1995200020052010500,000x Speedup in Mixed Integer Programming over 20 YearsFigure 1A 2x speedup every 13 months was observed on a benchmark of 1,892 mixed-integer problems(MIPs), a subset of linear programming. This benchmark was created by Bixby, he describes it as a set of"real-world problems that had been collected from academic and industry sources over 21 years." Progress isbased on the total time spent searching for the optimal solution for all problems in the benchmark. Progressis easy to track in this domain over this 21 year period because there were distinct releases of commercialsoftware (CPLEX and Gurobi) that can be compared with hardware held ﬁxed. A maximum search time of30,000 seconds (approximately 8 hours) per problem was used, so that’s what was recorded for instanceswhere the optimum wasn’t found. We clariﬁed the trend by graphing the trend by release date rather than byversion number [Bixby, 2012].2.3 184x reduction in training cost (in dollars) to get to ResNet-50 performance since 2017The eventual unit institutions generally care about for training cost is dollars. Earlier we observed a 10xefﬁciency improvement in terms of training FLOPs required to get ResNet-50 level accuracy (92.9% top-5accuracy target on ImageNet). On the same target, DawnBench submissions have surpassed the contest’soriginal benchmark cost, $2323, by a factor of 184x [Coleman et al., 2017]. This brought the cost of such atraining down to $12.60 in September 2017, less than a year after the competition was announced. Trainingcost in dollars is a useful overall measure, that aggregates:1.The efﬁciency gains from algorithmic progress we are most interested in within this paper.2.Moore’s Law’s effect on GPUs, TPUs, etc.3.Reduced cloud computing costs driven by modernization and increased competition.4.Hardware utilization. It’s not trivial to efﬁciently use the FLOPS capacity of GPUs, TPUs, etc.The DawnBench results make it clear that 3. and 4. can also be notable contributions to training efﬁciencythat are worth measuring. More targeted measurements, like training efﬁciency in terms of FLOPs, helpclarify the takeaway from measures like DawnBench that aggregate multiple effects.2.4 We can estimate costly-to-observe algorithmic efﬁciency improvements through scaling lawsWe’ve focused on algorithmic efﬁciency improvements that are observable empirically. [Kaplan McCandlish2020] showed that language model performance on cross-entropy had power-law scaling with the amount ofcompute over several orders of magnitude. Empirical scaling laws can be extrapolated to provide an estimateof how much we would have needed to scale up older models to reach current levels of performance. Through5 this mechanism scaling laws provide insight on efﬁciency gains that may require prohibitively expensiveamounts of compute to observe directly.2.5 Total investment in AI through private startups, public offerings, and mergers/acquisitions wentup 5x between 2012 and 2018We’ve primarily considered algorithmic, hardware, and data as the inputs in progress in machine learning.Money spent would be another reasonable lens since that’s the lever available to decision-makers at thehighest level. [Bloom et al., 2017] looks into the relationship between scientiﬁc progress and spending:In many models, economic growth arises from people creating ideas, and the long-rungrowth rate is the product of two terms: the effective number of researchers and their re-search productivity... A good example is Moore’s Law. The number of researchers requiredtoday to achieve the famous doubling every two years of the density of computer chips ismore than 18 times larger than the number required in the early 1970s. Across a broadrange of case studies at various levels of (dis)aggregation, we ﬁnd that ideas – and theexponential growth they imply – are getting harder to ﬁnd. Exponential growth results fromlarge increases in research effort that offset its declining productivity.AI investment is also up substantially since 2012, and it seems likely this was important to maintainingalgorithmic progress at the observed level. [Raymond Perrault & Niebles, 2019] notes that:1.Private investment in AI startups rose from $7B in 2012 to $40B in 2018.2.Investment through public offerings and mergers/acquisitions grew from $5B in 2012 to $23B in2018.3.The DOD is projected to invest $4.0B on AI R&D in ﬁscal year 2020.4.Contract spending on AI by the US government has grown from about $150M to $728M between2012 and 2018.3 Methods3.1 Main result primarily based on existing open source re-implementations of popular modelsFor the majority of the architectures shown in Figure 3 [Szegedy et al., 2014, Simonyan & Zisserman,2014, He et al., 2015, Xie et al., 2016, Huang et al., 2016, Iandola et al., 2016, Zagoruyko & Komodakis,2016, Zhang et al., 2017, Howard et al., 2017, Sandler et al., 2018, Ma et al., 2018, Tan & Le, 2019] we usedPyTorch’s example models [Paszke et al., 2017] with Pytorch’s suggested hyperparameters. We mark ourdeviation from their hyperparameters in the next section. We supplemented PyTorch’s example models withexisting implementations of MobileNet, ShufﬂeNet [Xiao, 2017,Huang, 2017].Compute used is based on the product of the following:1.FLOPs per training image, which was counted by a PyTorch library [Zhu, 2019] that we checkedagainst other methods for several models2.The number of images per epoch3.The number of epochs it took an architecture to perform better than or equal to the AlexNet modelwe trained3.2 We made few hyperparameter adjustments between architectures and did minimal tuningWe largely followed the suggested hyperparameters from the PyTorch example models. For all points shownin ﬁgure 3 we trained using SGD with a batch size of 256, momentum of 0.9, and weight decay of 1e-4, for90 epochs. For pre-batch norm architectures, we began with the suggested learning rate of 0.01 (GoogleNetand VGG), for all other architectures we began with the suggested learning rate of 0.1.For AlexNet we followed the original paper’s learning rate schedule of decaying by a factor of 10 every30 epochs. For all other models, we followed the suggested 1000x total learning rate reduction. To sanitycheck that these were reasonable hyperparameters, we performed a scan on ResNet18 where we set the6 initial learning rate to 0.0316, 0.1, and 0.316 and total decay to 250x, 1000x, and 2500x. The suggestedhyperparameters performed the best. For all models other than AlexNet we smoothed out the learning rateschedule, which was important for early learning as shown in Figure 2. EpochTop5 Accuracy0255075100 020406080SmoothPiece-wiseSmooth schedule improved early learning EpochLearning Rate0.0010.010.1 020406080SmoothPiece-wiseSmooth learning rate schedule Figure 2Smoothing out the learning rate improved early learning, which is the regime we were interestedin. ResNet-50 learning curves pictured.A natural concern would be that new models aren’t optimized well for compute in reaching AlexNet-levelperformance. Before smoothing the learning rate schedule, many models hit AlexNet performance at exactly31 epochs, when the learning rate was reduced by a factor of 10x. This adjustment often increased ourmeasured efﬁciency by 2-4x, but we didn’t observe meaningful differences in ﬁnal performance from thechange in learning rate schedule. So even though the change to the learning rate schedule could be consideredminimal, it has a large effect on our measurements. The more simple shape of the updated learning curve,suggests that optimizing for convergence might be relatively compatible with optimizing for lower levels ofperformance, like AlexNet-level accuracy.As context for the quality of these re-implementations we provide tables in Appendix C that compare theﬁnal accuracy we reached to the original paper results.4 Results4.1 Key Result: 44x less compute needed to get to AlexNet-level performanceIn ﬁgure 3 we show that between 2012 and 2019 the amount of compute that neural net architectures requireto be trained from scratch to AlexNet level performance has gone down by a factor of 44x (16-month doublingtime)Most researchers found the algorithmic efﬁciency gains to surprisingly high and regular. The progress isfaster than the original Moore’s Law rate (11x) over this period, where both trends made training models ofAlexNet-level performance cheaper. Moore’s Law is obviously a more general trend than what we observein Figure 3. We believe it’s quite interesting to see what we can say about algorithmic efﬁciency progress ingeneral given these types of measurement, and we explore this question in sections 4.2 and 5.4. 7 Figure 3Lowest compute points at any given time shown in blue, all points measured shown in gray. Weobserved an efﬁciency doubling time of 16 months.We can split the progress in training efﬁciency into data efﬁciency (needing fewer epochs) and reductionsin the number of FLOPs required per epoch. Table 1 below shows this split for the models that were theefﬁciency state of the art for a time.We can see that both reductions in training epochs and FLOPs per training image play an important andvarying factor in the overall algorithmic efﬁciency gains. This type of analysis is somewhat sensitive to howfar the original work pushed towards convergence.2Other limitations are discussed in sections 5.4 and 5.7.Calculations for the ﬁgure 3 are provided in Appendix B. Relevant information for EfﬁcientNet training costwas provided through correspondence with authors. 2It only took 62 of the 90 epochs for AlexNet to train to 78.8% top 5 accuracy on ImageNet (99.6% of the 79.1%ﬁnal accuracy). So if the original AlexNet had only been trained for 62 epochs, we would have calculated the overallalgorithmic efﬁciency gain as 30x rather than 44x. We don’t think it’s tractable to mitigate this confounder without addinga lot of complexity to explaining the measurement, but it seemed important to ﬂag as a limitation of our approach.8 Table 1Breakdown of total training efﬁciency gains in reaching AlexNet-level accuracy into reduction oftraining epochs and ﬂops per epochExperimentTraining epochs factorFLOPs per epoch factorTraining efﬁciency factorAlexNet1.01.01.0GoogleNet110.384.3MobileNet_v18.21.3511ShufﬂeNet_v1_1x3.85.521ShufﬂeNet_v2_1x4.55.525EfﬁcientNet-b0222.0444.2 FLOPs based learning curves can help clarify comparisons between modelsWe ﬁnd it noteworthy that in when we plot FLOPs based learning curves in ﬁgure 4 some architecturesdominate others. Teraflops/s-daysAccuracy0255075100 0.010.1110AlexNetGoogleNetMobileNet_v2Resnet-50ShuffleNet_v2_1xVgg-11FLOPs used to train vs top5 accuracy on ImageNet Figure 4Some models reach all levels of of accuracy using less compute than other modelsFLOPs based learning curves can help clarify what type of advances a new architecture consists of. ResNet-50 dominates VGG-11 and GoogLeNet dominates AlexNet on this plot. That is for all amounts of trainingcompute they get better accuracy. VGG-11 reached higher ﬁnal accuracy than AlexNet, but it took morecompute to get to all levels of performance than AlexNet.4.3 We observed a similar rate of progress for ResNet-50 level classiﬁcation performance and fasterrates of efﬁciency improvement in Go, Dota, and Machine TranslationWe’re also interested in measuring progress on frontier AI capabilities, the capabilities that are currentlyattracting the most attention and investment. It seems to us as if language modeling [Devlin et al., 2018,Radford et al., , Raffel et al., 2019] and playing games [Silver et al., 2016, Silver et al., 2017, Silver et al.,2018, OpenAI et al., 2019] are the domains of interest given our criteria.Within those domains, our desiderata were:1.task of sufﬁcient difﬁculty to demonstrate that improvements work at scale [Sutton, 2019]9 2.benchmark of high interest over long horizon in which there’s general agreement we’ve observedlarge progress in capabilities.3.sufﬁciently good publicly available information/re-implementations to easily make an estimateIt’s hard to get all these desiderata, but Table 2 below summarizes all the data we have observed.Table 2Increased efﬁciency (in terms of FLOPs) in reaching the same performance on select tasks.OriginalImprovedTaskEfﬁciency FactorPeriodDoubling TimeAlexNetEfﬁcientNetImageNet44x6 years16 monthsResNetEfﬁcientNetImageNet10x4 years17 monthsSeq2SeqTransformerWMT-1461x3 years6 monthsGNMTTransformerWMT-149x1 year4 monthsAlphaGo ZeroAlphaZeroGO8x1 year4 monthsOpenAI FiveOpenAI RerunDota5x2 months25 daysThe work on Go and Dota are over shorter time scales and more the result of one research group ratherthan a large scientiﬁc community, so those rates of improvement should be considered to apply to a differentregime than the rates in image recognition and translation.When we apply this lens to translation [Sutskever et al., 2014, Vaswani et al., 2017] it shows more progressthan vision over a shorter time horizon. Though we only have short horizon progress for Go and Dota, we’donly need to see a modest 3x and 5x efﬁciency gain over 5 years for their rates to surpass the rate of progresson the vision task. The underlying calculations are provided in appendix A.One might worry that the rate of progress in image recognition is very sensitive to performance level chosen,so we also did a shallow investigation of efﬁciency gains at ResNet-50 level of performance. The relevantinformation, that EfﬁcientNet-b0 took 4 epochs to get to AlexNet level accuracy, and EfﬁcientNet-b1 [Tan& Le, 2019] took 71 epochs to get to ResNet-50 level accuracy was provided through correspondence withauthors (where each was trained with 1 epoch of warmup rather than 5).We observed a similar rate of progress for efﬁciency gains in inference on ImageNet.We also did ashallow investigation into how the rate of progress on inference efﬁciency has compared to training efﬁciency.We observed that:1.Shufﬂenet [Zhang et al., 2017] achieved AlexNet-level performance with an 18x inference efﬁciencyincrease in 5 years (15-month doubling time).2.EfﬁcientNet-b0 [Tan & Le, 2019] achieved ResNet-50-level performance with a 10x inference efﬁ-ciency increase in 3 and a half years (13-month doubling time).These results suggest that training efﬁciency and inference efﬁciency might improve at somewhat similarrates. Though it’s important to note we have many fewer points across time and domains for inference.5 Discussion5.1 We attribute the 44x efﬁciency gains to sparsity, batch normalization, residual connections,architecture search, and appropriate scalingA more thorough study would have carefully ablated all the features of interest from successful models whilecontrolling for model size to be able to attribute the efﬁciency gains to speciﬁc improvements in a quantitativemanner [Lipton & Steinhardt, 2018]. We performed some ablations, but primarily rely on less direct evidencewhen forming opinions about which improvements we suspect were most important to the 44x increase inefﬁciency. For instance we discuss what the original authors credit, though it’s important to recognize authorsare incentivized to emphasize novelty. We think it’s important to note that efﬁciency gains may compose in ahard to predict, non-linear manner.10 Batch Normalization:Batch normalization enabled a 14x reduction in the number of ﬂoating-point oper-ations needed to train to Inception level accuracy [Ioffe & Szegedy, 2015]. It’s unclear how such algorithmicefﬁciency gains like batch normalization compose, but it seems reasonable to attribute some meaningfulportion of the gains to normalization. We made a few attempts to try and train a ShufﬂeNet without batchnormalization, but we were unable to get a model to learn. We suspect we would have needed to carefullyinitialize the network to do so [Zhang et al., 2019].Residual Connections:ShufﬂeNet units, the building blocks of ShufﬂeNet, are residual blocks. Efﬁcient-Net also has residual connections.Sparsity:GoogLeNet was explicit in describing sparsity as the primary inspiration for its architecture, andGoogLeNet alone was a 4.3x efﬁciency improvement over AlexNet. [Szegedy et al., 2014].This raises the question of whether there is any hope for a next, intermediate step: anarchitecture that makes use of the extra sparsity, even at ﬁlter level, as suggested by thetheory, but exploits our current hardware by utilizing computations on dense matrices.ShufﬂeNet largely credits replacing dense 1 x 1 convolutions with a sparser structure. If we assume all theShufﬂeNet gains came from sparsity, batch normalization, and residual connections, it seems reasonable tocredit sparsity with being able to produce at least the 4.3x that came with GoogLeNet (leaving 5.8x of the25x gain shown in Table 1 for the other two conceptual improvements).Appropriate Scaling:Given it’s architecture AlexNet was optimally sized for AlexNet-level performance.Given our tests of scaled up and scaled down models ShufﬂeNet_v2_1x, and EfﬁcientNet-b0 seem to beclose to appropriately sized for AlexNet-level performance. We tested the effect of scaling by scaling downa ResNet-50 by EfﬁcientNet’s compound scaling factor twice (1.4x less depth, 1.2 less width, 1.3 lowerresolution) [Tan & Le, 2019]. Scaling the ResNet architecture to a more appropriate size for AlexNet-levelperformance yielded a 2.1x improvement in algorithmic efﬁciency for AlexNet-level performance. Figure 8in the EfﬁcientNet paper shows that their compound scaling techniques (systematically scaling width, depth,and resolution) can result in 5x or more gains in algorithmic efﬁciency over more naive scaling approaches.Architecture Search:EfﬁcientNet seems to attribute much of its improved performance to leveraging ar-chitecture search rather than iterating on hand designed architectures. EfﬁcientNet was a 1.8x increase inalgorithmic efﬁciency over ShufﬂeNet at AlexNet-level performance.5.2 It’s unclear the degree to which the observed efﬁciency trends generalize to other AI tasksWe’re most interested in what our small number of data points suggest about algorithmic progress overallduring this period. We recognize it’s difﬁcult to go from one or more speciﬁc measures to stating anythingabout overall progress. In this section we share our current impressions and suggest measures that couldclarify the degree to which the trends we’ve observed generalize.All our measures were for tasks that have:1.received large amounts of investment (researchefr time and/or compute)2.in which there’s general agreement we’ve observed large progress in capabilities.We suspect that this style of measurement on tasks that meet these criteria is likely to show similar ratesof improvement in algorithmic efﬁciency as we’ve observed here. One concern we had, was that the ratesof improvement would be very dependent on the level of performance. That may still be the case, but wewere surprised how close the efﬁciency doubling time was for AlexNet-level performance (16 months) andResNet50-level performance (17 months). We also suspect, but are less conﬁdent, that such measurementswould should similar progress in these domains (image recognition, natural language processing, and games).We’d be very interested in such measurements.However, we’re also interested in progress in high potential tasks that don’t ﬁt these criteria, like certainreasoning tasks. In the previous section, we attributed the efﬁciency gains over AlexNet primarily to sparsity,residual connections, normalization, principled scaling, and architecture search all of which are relativelytask-agnostic. But, it’s possible that we’d observe only small efﬁciency gains from these techniques on suchtasks. We consider the degree to which the observed efﬁciency trends generalize to other AI tasks a highlyinteresting open question.11 5.3 Why new capabilities are probably a larger portion of progress than observed efﬁciency gainsAlexNet achieved performance that no system had previously achieved. We can try to reason about how muchcompute would have been required in scaling up previous systems to match AlexNet’s performance. Fromthis point of view, we believe AlexNet represented signiﬁcant progress in how much compute was requiredto achieve AlexNet-level performance. This analysis doesn’t attempt to quantify that progress because it’sless tractable. More generally, the ﬁrst time a capability is created, algorithmic breakthroughs may havebeen leveraged to dramatically reduce the resources that would have otherwise been needed. For instance,if we imagine simply scaling up a DQN [Mnih et al., 2013] model to play Go it could easily have needed1000x or more times as much compute to reach AlphaGo level. Such efﬁciency gains are not generallyobserved empirically, though they can be calculated with asymptotic analysis in some cases and estimatedwith empirical scaling laws in others [McCandlish et al., 2018].More formally, if we go far enough back in time, algorithmic progress takes us from brute force search tolower complexity classes, which is what enables capabilities of interest to be built at all. Within this zoomed-out view, the progress that went into making a capability possible at all, in total, yields an astronomicallylarger algorithmic efﬁciency improvement factor than directly observed efﬁciency improvements for capa-bilities that have recently been observed for the ﬁrst time. This limit analysis lends some support to theclaim that the rate of gain in algorithmic efﬁciency on a capability of interest might often be faster before acapability is observed.In the DQN and brute force examples described above, we ﬁnd it most helpful to start by thinking of a scalinglaw, a plot of performance vs training compute used. Our algorithmic efﬁciency data results are points we ﬁndmeaningful from those graphs, but sometimes similar comparisons would just yield an astronomical numberthat might not have much meaning. In such cases, we’d recommend analyzing a graph of the scaling law,since it contains the entire picture.While most researchers we’ve discussed the result with found the 44x number surprisingly high, because ofthis effect 44x may strongly underestimate algorithmic progress on image classiﬁcation during this period.When this analysis is discussed in the context of the relative importance of advancements in hardware andsoftware in AI progress, we think it’s critical to remember this limitation [Sutton, 2019].5.4 We estimate a 7.5 million times increase in the effective training compute available to the largestAI experiments between 2012 and 2018This section explains why we estimate there was a 7.5 million times increase in the effective training compute(in FLOPs) available to the largest AI experiments during this period. The reasoning behind our estimate isthat’s what we get when we take the product of the AI and Compute trend [Amodei & Hernandez, 2018](300,000x) and AlexNet efﬁciency trend found in this work (25x over this period3), and carefully considerwhat this product means. When we consider that we have more compute and that each unit of compute cando more, it becomes clear that these two trends are somehow multiplicative.This section is more speculative than the rest of the paper, but we think it’s important to explore the potentialimplications of our efﬁciency measurements. We believe a 7.5 million times estimate is somewhat defensiblewhen we:1.Narrowly deﬁne capabilities of interest so that 300,000x can be applied by deﬁnition.2.Deﬁne what we mean by effective compute.3.Discuss major considerations for why 25x could be an underestimate/overestimate for algorithmicprogress on capabilities of interest.Capabilities of interest:We deﬁne capabilities of interest as the training runs at close to the peak of sizethat was observed in 2018. Therefore it’s appropriate to apply the 300,000x from AI and Compute trendby deﬁnition. By 2020 such systems include AlphaZero, OpenAI Five, and NLP systems. This deﬁnitionhelps us avoid having to reason about what our measurements imply for distant domains. We have somemeasurements of progress for many of the capabilities of interest by the above deﬁnition. Though it’s possiblethere are unpublished results that ﬁt the capability of interest deﬁnition in relatively distant domains.3Through 2018 we use the 25x efﬁciency gains ShufﬂeNet represented rather than the 44x gains that EfﬁcientNetrepresented in 201912 Effective compute:The conception we ﬁnd most useful is if we imagine how much more efﬁcient it is totrain models of interest in 2018 in terms of ﬂoating-point operations than it would have been to "scale up"training of 2012 models until they got to current capability levels. By "scale up," we mean more compute, theadditional parameters that come with that increased compute, the additional data required to avoid overﬁtting,and some tuning, but nothing more clever than that. We considered many other conceptions we found lesshelpful4.Why our overall take is that 25x is likely an underestimate for algorithmic progress on capabilities ofinterestOur overall take relies heavily on our observations in the domain of interest. We saw larger overallprogress in NLP and faster rates of short horizon progress for Go and Dota. In NLP we observed a 60xefﬁciency factor over 3 years for machine translation. Though we only have short-horizon progress for Goand Dota, we’d only need to see a modest 3x and 5x efﬁciency gains respectively over 5 years for their ratesto surpass the rate of progress on the vision task.On the other hand, algorithmic progress has a domain speciﬁc component, and it’s unclear how representativethe 25x is of the average efﬁciency progress in the broader domain of AI during this period. However, webelieve this effect is smaller than the effect in the opposite direction of not measuring the contribution ofnew capabilities like AlexNet, Seq2Seq, or original AlphaGo systems during this period. In section 5.3 weprovided arguments for why new capabilities might represent 100x or more algorithmic efﬁciency progress.To further clarify what drove changes in effective compute over this period, we split the AI and Compute trendinto Moore’s Law and increased spending/parallelization5. We graph an estimate for the effective computetrends in terms of these two components as well as progress in algorithmic efﬁciency in ﬁgure 5 below.We’re uncertain whether hardware or algorithmic progress actually had a bigger impact on effectivecompute available to large experiments over this period, because of the ways we’ve discussed in whichthe algorithmic estimate is conservative. Most researchers found the algorithmic efﬁciency progress to besurprisingly fast. So, regardless of one’s interpretation of what the AI and Compute trend implies aboutfuture AI progress, we believe our algorithmic efﬁciency estimates suggests:1.a modest update towards expecting faster progress along the edge of what’s possible for AI to do inthe short term.2.potentially large update on long term expectations about AI if the algorithmic efﬁciency on capabil-ities of interest continues to improve at a similar rate.Directly commenting on the likelihood of any of the 3 macro trends in ﬁgure 5 continuing in the futureis out of scope for this work.Making credible forecasts on such topics is a substantial enterprise, we’d ratheravoid here than give insufﬁcient treatment. Rather we present the evidence we see as relevant for a readerwho’d like to form their own expectations about extrapolating trends in algorithmic efﬁciency.Additional reasons why 44x over 7 years could be an underestimate for progress on AlexNet-levelalgorithmic efﬁciency:1.Only AlexNet was heavily optimized for AlexNet level performance. Models are generally tuned forperformance at convergence, not early learning. Our results were produced with minimum tuning forearly learning and AlexNet-level performance, and tuning them could only increase their efﬁciencygains.2.It’s our understanding that the re-implementation of AlexNet we used had a better initializationscheme than the original work. This effect adds another factor of conservativeness to our analysis.We expect future analysis to also be limited by this effect. This concern could be mitigated byresearchers publishing their learning curves in addition to training compute used to train.3.We don’t account for gains from being able to use lower precision computation [Gupta et al., 2015].4.We don’t account for gains from increased GPU utilization or improved GPU kernels.4Our initial thinking was in terms of what an elite team in 2012 could have done if given a large amount com-pute, but this was unobservable. We could make something similar observable by having a group of smart physi-cists/mathematicians that were unfamiliar with modern ML methods work on problems without access to modern results,but that would be very expensive to observe.5Increased spending and parallelization are coupled in that given ﬁxed time a researcher is limited by both (i) howmany concurrent GPU’s are available to them which is primarily a ﬁnancial question, and (ii) how many GPU’s canproductively be applied to the problem, which is a scientiﬁc question [McCandlish et al., 2018,Jia et al., 2018]13 Figure 5The notion of effective compute allows us to combine AI and Compute trend and this result in asingle graph. These trends multiply as in addition to being able to do more with a ﬁxed amount of computenow, researchers have more of it. The AI and Compute trend is decomposed into a hardware efﬁciency gainestimate (original Moore’s Law) and money/parallelization [Moore, 1965,Amodei & Hernandez, 2018]. Thisestimate, as discussed in the body of this section, is more speculative than the rest of the paper, but we thinkit’s important to explore the potential implications of our efﬁciency measurements.5.5 It’s possible there’s an algorithmic Moore’s Law for optimization problems of interestThis work suggests that in high investment areas of AI algorithmic efﬁciency improvement is currently hav-ing a similar-sized effect as Moore’s Law has had on hardware efﬁciency in the past. Others have noticedcomparable algorithmic progress over decades in related domains like Chess, Go, SAT solving, and opera-tions research. In light of that past analysis, it’s less surprising that we’ve observed algorithmic efﬁciencygains this large on training to an AlexNet level of performance. The common thread here seems to be thatthese along with AI systems are all optimization problems of interest.Systematic measurement could make it clear whether an algorithmic equivalent to Moore’s Law in the domainof AI exists, and if it exists, clarify its nature. We consider this a highly interesting open question. Wesuspect we’re more likely to observe similar rates of efﬁciency progress on similar tasks. By similar taskswe mean within these sub-domains of AI, wide agreement of substantial progress, and comparable levelsof investment (compute and/or researcher time). It’s also unclear the degree to which general vs domainspeciﬁc gains would be the drivers of such progress, and how gains compound over long periods as the ﬁeldprogresses through several benchmarks. Problems of high investment might be be quite biased towards oneswe’re making progress on rather, where an ideal measure might focus on the questions that are seen as mostimportant.An AI equivalent to Moore’s Law would be harder to measure, because it’s not about progress on a singleproblem, it’s about progress on the frontier of optimization problems. Through that lens, it seems moreplausible we’ll see long term exponential progress on algorithmic efﬁciency for AI capabilities of interest ifour primary ﬁnding is an extension of an existing, long-running trend in progress on optimization problemsof interest.14 5.6 Research provides leading indicators of the future economic impact of AIThe eventual overall measure of AI research’s impact on the world will likely be economic. However, ittook past general-purpose technologies like electriﬁcation and information technology a surprisingly longtime to become widespread. From the start of information technolology era it was about 30 years beforepersonal computers were in more than half of US homes [Jovanovic & Rousseau, 2005] (similar timeline forpersonal computers). Analysis of past investments in basic research along 20-30 year timescales in domainslike computers indicates that there’s at least some tractability in foreseeing long term downstream impactsof technology like machine learning. Economic trends of AI are very informative, but measures of researchprogress are of particular interest to us as leading indicators of the eventual downstream economic and societalimpact.5.7 Major limitationsThe limitations of this work are discussed throughout, but the major ones are reiterated here:1.We only have a small number of algorithmic efﬁciency data points on a few tasks (Section 4).It’s unclear the degree to which we’d expect the rates of progress we’ve observed to generalize toalgorithmic efﬁciency progress on other AI task and domains. We consider this a highly interestingopen question that we discuss in Section 5.2.2.We believe our approach underestimates algorithmic progress, primarily because new capabilitiesare likely a larger portion of algorithmic progress than observed efﬁciency gains (Section 5.3). Thisweakness could be addressed by ﬁtting scaling laws to estimate the cost of prohibitively expensivetraining runs (Section 2.4).3.This analysis focuses on the ﬁnal training run cost for an optimized model rather than total devel-opment costs. Some algorithmic improvements make it easier to train a model by making the spaceof hyper-parameters that will train stably and get good ﬁnal performance much larger. On the otherhand, architecture searches increase the gap between the ﬁnal training run cost and total trainingcosts. We believe a quantitative analysis of these effects would be very informative, but it’s beyondthe scope of this paper.4.We don’t comment on the degree to which we believe efﬁciency trends will extrapolate, we merelypresent our results (Section 4) and the related work (Section 2) we think is relevant for someoneattempting to make such a prediction. Though we do comment on the implications if the trendspersist.6 ConclusionWe observe that hardware and algorithmic efﬁciency gains multiply and that neither factor is negligible overmeaningful horizons, which suggests that a good model of AI progress should integrate measures from both.We hope this work is helpful to those trying to understand, measure, and forecast AI progress in a variety ofsettings. We’ve observed that AI models for high interest tasks are getting cheaper to train at an exponentialrate faster than Moore’s Law. Even though we’re early on in applying this trend to AI, we were surprisedand inspired to learn that the original Moore’s Law was coined when integrated circuits had a mere 64transistors (6 doublings) [Moore, 1965] and naively extrapolating it out predicted personal computers andsmartphones (an iPhone 11 has 8.5 billion transistors). If we observe decades of exponential improvement inthe algorithmic efﬁciency of AI, what might it lead to? We’re not sure. That these results make us ask thisquestion is a modest update for us towards a future with powerful AI services and technology. Conversely, ifwe were to start only observing incremental gains (say 2x improvements every 5 years), we think that’d be ameaningful and widely understandable indicator that algorithmic progress had slowed down.More ambitiously, we hope that reporting on algorithmic efﬁciency improvements will become a strongand useful norm in the AI community. Improved performance is what AI algorithms are ultimately judgedby. Algorithmically efﬁcient models on benchmarks of interest are promising candidates for scaling upand potentially achieving overall top performance. Efﬁciency is straightforward to measure, as it’s just ameaningful slice of the learning curves that all experiments generate. 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(2019). 6A Calculations for efﬁciency improvements in Go, Dota, and Machine TranslationMachine Translation:We estimate that the Transformer [Vaswani et al., 2017] required 61x less computeto get to Seq2Seq-level of performance [Sutskever et al., 2014] on English to French translation on WMT’143 years later. This estimate is based on:1.total training compute used by the transformer base model in original paper (3.3e18 FLOPs)2.compute estimate for Seq2Seq in AI and Compute (4.0e19 FLOPs)3.the base transformer got to Seq2Seq level around 20% of the way through it’s run. (provided byauthors of transformer paper).4.0e19/(0.20⇤3.3e18) = 61We estimate the the Transformer [Vaswani et al., 2017] required 9x less compute to get to GMNT-level ofperformance on English to French translation on WMT-14 1 year later. This estimate is based on:1.total training compute used by the transformer big model in original paper (2.3e19 FLOPs)2.compute estimate for GMNT transformer paper (1.4e20 FLOPs)3.the base transformer got to Seq2Seq level around 68% of the way through it’s run. (provided byauthors of transformer paper).1.4e20/(0.68⇤2.3e19) = 9AlphaGo Zero to AlphaZero:We estimate that AlphaZero [Silver et al., 2018] required 8x less computeto get to AlphaGo Zero [Silver et al., 2017] level approximately one year later. We don’t currently haveenough information to compare to AlphaGo Lee [Silver et al., 2016].This is based on:1.an estimated 4.4x decrease in total FLOPs used to train AlphaZero in AI and Compute2.it took AlphaZero 390,000 of the 700,000 steps it was trained for to match AlphaGo Zero perfor-mance.4.4⇤(700,000/390,000) = 818 OpenAI Five Rerun:OpenAI Five "Rerun" got to the same skill level from scratch on the ﬁnal environmentwithout surgery using 5x less compute 2 months after the OG match [OpenAI et al., 2019]. However, somehard to pin portion of the additional cost came from a changing environment, as there were balance changepatches approximately every 2 weeks during the original 10 month training period.B Calculations for efﬁciency improvements in image classiﬁcationTable 3FLOPs required to reach same AlexNet level accuracyteraﬂop/s-daysExperimentEpochsgigaﬂops/img(used)gigaﬂops/img(THOP)gigaﬂops/img(paper)367.7Vgg-11127.987.98-308.0Wide_ResNet_50711.4611.46-266.1AlexNet900.770.77-118.6Resnet-5083.863.86-118.5Resnet-3493.433.43-115.3ResNext_5074.294.29-97.9Resnet-18151.701.70-82.9DenseNet12182.702.70-73.1Squeezenet_v1_1530.360.36-61.4GoogLeNet82.002.00-24.0MobileNet_v1110.570.580.5720.2MobileNet_v2160.330.33-15.4ShufﬂeNet_v2_1_5x130.310.31-12.9ShufﬂeNet_v1_1x240.140.150.1410.8ShufﬂeNet_v2_1x200.140.150.146.0EfﬁcientNet-b040.39-0.39Wheretraining_flops=epochs⇤flops_per_image⇤images_per_epochWithimages_per_epoch=1.28⇤106and ateraflop/sday=1e12⇤(24⇤60⇤60s/day) 19 C Accuracy achieved in relevant modelsTable 4Top-5 ﬁnal training accuracy comparisons for relevant modelsExperimentMy Top-5Pytorch/Examples Top-5Paper Top-5Single Crop ValidationAlexNet79.0%79.1%83.0%?Vgg-1186.8%88.6%93.0%noGoogLeNet88.0%89.5%89.9%yesResnet-5092.8%92.9%93.3%yesSqueezenet_v1_180.6%80.6%80.3%?Table 5Top-1 ﬁnal training accuracy comparisons for relevant modelsExperimentMy Top-1Pytorch/Examples Top-1Paper Top-1Single Crop ValidationMobileNet_v171.0%-70.6%yesMobileNet_v268.5%71.9%72.0%yesShufﬂeNet_v1_1x64.6%-67.6%yesShufﬂeNet_v2_1_5x69.3%69.4%71.6%yesWe use a single center 224x224 crop for evaluating performance on the validation data points for all of ourmodels, but not all of original papers evaluate performance in this manner. 20
91bb45bb-8a2e-4628-bf79-99e1b58c4967	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	The Growth of My Pessimism: Transhumanism, Immortalism, Effective Altruism. This text has many, many hyperlinks, it is useful to at least glance at frontpage of the linked material to get it. It is an expression of me thinking so it has many community jargon terms. Thank Oliver Habryka, Daniel Kokotajlo and James Norris for comments. No, really, check the front page of the hyperlinks. * Why I Grew Skeptical of Transhumanism * Why I Grew Skeptical of Immortalism * Why I Grew Skeptical of Effective Altruism * Only Game in Town Wonderland’s rabbit said it best: The hurrier I go, the behinder I get. We approach 2016, and the more I see light, the more I see brilliance popping everywhere, the Effective Altruism movement growing, TEDs and Elons spreading the word, the more we switch our heroes in the right direction, the behinder I get. But why? - you say. Clarity, precision, I am tempted to reply. I have left the intellectual suburbs of Brazil, straight into the strongest hub of production of things that matter, The Bay Area, via Oxford’s FHI office, I now split my time between UC Berkeley, and the CFAR/MIRI office. In the process, I have navigated an ocean of information, read hundreds of books, papers, saw thousands of classes, became proficient in a handful of languages and a handful of intellectual disciplines. I’ve visited the Olympus and I met our living demigods in person as well. Against the overwhelming forces of an extremely upbeat personality surfing a hyper base-level happiness, these three forces: approaching the center, learning voraciously, and meeting the so-called heroes, have brought me to the current state of pessimism. I was a transhumanist, an immortalist, and an effective altruist. Why I Grew Skeptical of Transhumanism The transhumanist in me is skeptical of technological development fast enough for improving the human condition to be worth it now, he sees most technologies as fancy toys that don’t get us there. Our technologies can’t and won’t for a while lead our minds to peaks anywhere near the peaks
c1ee0812-0aa5-4f18-9f6b-0ef97b4f613e	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Reward Bases: A simple mechanism for adaptive acquisition of multiple reward type Authors: Beren Millidge ,Yuhang Song, Armin Lak, Mark E. Walton, Rafal Bogacz. Abstract: > Animals can adapt their preferences for different types of reward according to physiological state, such as hunger or thirst. To explain this ability, we employ a simple multi-objective reinforcement learning model that learns multiple values according to different reward dimensions such as food or water. We show that by weighting these learned values according to the current needs, behaviour may be flexibly adapted to present preferences. This model predicts that individual dopamine neurons should encode the errors associated with some reward dimensions more than with others. To provide a preliminary test of this prediction, we reanalysed a small dataset obtained from a single primate in an experiment which to our knowledge is the only published study where the responses of dopamine neurons to stimuli predicting distinct types of rewards were recorded. We observed that in addition to subjective economic value, dopamine neurons encode a gradient of reward dimensions; some neurons respond most to stimuli predicting food rewards while the others respond more to stimuli predicting fluids. We also proposed a possible implementation of the model in the basal ganglia network, and demonstrated how the striatal system can learn values in multiple dimensions, even when dopamine neurons encode mixtures of prediction error from different dimensions. Additionally, the model reproduces the instant generalisation to new physiological states seen in dopamine responses and in behaviour. Our results demonstrate how a simple neural circuit can flexibly guide behaviour according to animals’ needs. Author summary: > Animals and humans can search for different resources depending on their needs. For example, when you are thirsty at work, you may go to a common room where hopefully coffee or water is available, while if you are hungry, you would rather go to a canteen. Such ability to seek diff
a294f902-cc92-4109-9627-8acf5b3cf25c	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Apply for the 2023 Developmental Interpretability Conference! What: A conference on developmental interpretability and singular learning theory. When: 5-12 November 2023 Where: Wytham Abbey, Oxford How: Apply now! Edit: We're full! If you're still interested in hearing more about the content, following some of the talks online, or possibly attending for a day (because you're already in the area), fill in the form and message us separately on Discord. We are pleased to announce the upcoming Developmental Interpretability Conference, hosted at the historic Wytham Abbey in Oxford from 5 to 12 November. This conference expands upon the 2023 Singular Learning Theory & Alignment Summit and provides an opportunity to learn about, and contribute to, singular learning theory and its applications to AI alignment, as outlined in the DevInterp Research Agenda. The conference program will recall the basics of Singular Learning Theory & DevInterp and will discuss the latest advancements. Click here to apply! Space at the conference is limited, so be sure to apply early as applications may close when all slots have been filled. We hope to see you in Oxford this November! FAQ What are the prerequisites? The conference will use ideas from algebraic geometry, Bayesian statistics and physics to understand machine learning and AI alignment. Although helpful, it is not necessary to master all these topics to productively participate in the conference. In order to get the most out of the conference program, we highly recommend participants review introductory SLT material such as Distilling Singular Learning Theory by Liam Carroll. Participants may also benefit from watching several of the Singular Learning Theory & Alignment Summit 2023 lectures. I am skeptical about some of the arguments for AI Alignment. Do I need to buy AI X-risk to attend this conference? We believe the development of superintelligent AI poses a serious risk for humanity and the DevInterp agenda aims to make progress on this problem. However, while making pro
7f4658f4-0ce8-408b-9b14-e6f15cdff6e1	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Another view of quantilizers: avoiding Goodhart's Law Goodhart's law states: > Any observed statistical regularity will tend to collapse once pressure is placed upon it for control purposes. One way of framing this is that, when you are solving some optimization problem, a metric that is correlated with a desired objective will often stop being correlated with the objective when you look at the extreme values of the metric. For example, although the number of paperclips a paperclip factory produces tends to be correlated with how useful the factory is for its owner's values, a paperclip factory that produces an extremely high number of paperclips is likely to be quite bad for its owner's values. Let's try to formalize this. Suppose you are finding some x∈X that optimizes some unknown objective function f:X→R, and you have some estimate g:X→R which you believe to approximate f. Specifically, you have a guarantee that, for some base distribution γ:ΔX, g does not incorrectly estimate f much on average: EX∼γ[\|g(x)−f(x)\|]≤k We might suppose that we only want to take actions if our expected f is above zero; otherwise, it would be better to do nothing. Given this, how do you pick an x to guarantee a good objective value f(x) across all possible objective functions f? Naively, you might pick x=argmaxx∈Xg(x); however, if this x has a low probability under γ, then it is possible for g(x) to be much higher than f(x) without causing g to overestimate f much on average. If f is chosen adversarially, the optimization problem to solve is: argmaxa∈[0,1],p∈ΔX minf:X→R,EX∼γ[\|g(x)−f(x)\|]≤kaEX∼p[f(X)] where a is the probability that the agent takes an action at all, and p is the action distribution if it takes an action. Equivalently, since the most adversarial f values will not ever be above g: argmaxa∈[0,1],p∈ΔX minf:X→R,∀xf(x)≤g(x),EX∼γ[g(x)−f(x)]≤kaEX∼p[f(X)] Define c(x)=g(x)−f(x): argmaxa∈[0,1],p∈ΔX minc:X→R+,EX∼γ[c(x)]≤kaEX∼p[g(X)−c(X)] argmaxa∈[0,1],p∈ΔX aminc:X→R+,EX∼γ[c(x)]≤kEX∼p[g(X)−c(X)] argmaxa∈{0,1},p∈ΔX ami
b3a1cdfd-a870-4276-87cd-95bb392c6fc3	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Moderately More Than You Wanted To Know: Depressive Realism Depressive realism is the idea that depressed people have more accurate beliefs than the general population. It’s a common factoid in “things I learned” lists, and often posited as a matter of settled science. In this post, I’ll explore whether it’s true. Where It Began The depressive realism hypothesis was first studied by Lauren Alloy and Lyn Yvonne Abramson, in a paper called Judgment of contingency in depressed and nondepressed students: Sadder but wiser?. Undergraduates had access to a button, which might (or might not) influence whether a light came on. Depressed students - but not nondepressed students - were pretty good at guessing how much influence the button had over the light. Specifically, nondepressed students tended to think they had more control than they actually did. In other words, the seminal study showed something a lot more specific than “depressed people are more accurate”. It showed that they were better at inferring their own degree of influence. Or to put a finer point on it, (mildly) depressed people suffer less from the illusion of control. There are two lines of criticism I want to explore here, before moving on to other studies. First, is the study probably accurate? And second, if it is, does it imply what it seems to? Methodology To get the big one out of the way first: Alloy and Abramson’s sample only consisted of undergraduates. This is an extremely common approach for psychological studies, because the people doing the studies are professors and undergrads are close at hand. But undergraduates are not exactly representative of humanity writ large. Also, the entire field of psychology is on fire, so “business as usual” is a poor defense.[1] Furthermore, the total number of undergraduates in the study was 288: 144 depressed, and 144 not depressed. Depression was diagnosed through the Beck Depression Inventory, which seems fine, but does mean we’re probably dealing with self-report, so mileage may vary there too. Finally, the
b1c2b774-5244-46da-94fb-a167b9e3c914	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Brief summary of ai-plans.com At AI-Plans.com (in beta), we are working on a contributable compendium of alignment plans and the criticisms against them. Currently, newcomers to the field of AI Alignment often struggle to understand what work is being done, who is doing it, and the assumptions, strengths, and weaknesses of each plan. We believe AI-plans.com will be an easy, centralized way to discover and learn more about the most promising alignment plans. Currently, multiple alignment researchers are interested in the site, with some adding their plan themselves, requesting plans to be added or liking plans to be added once they’re complete. Jonathan Ng, an alignment researcher at EleutherAI has also endorsed the site and has worked with us on the site. The site is currently in Stage 1, where it is purely a compendium. We are in the process of adding up to 1000 plans and the criticisms made against them so far. Further plans and criticisms can be added by users. We currently have over 50 alignment plans on the site and are adding at least 20 every day. Projected benefits of Stage 1: This makes it easy to see what plans exist and what their most common problems are. Funding would help this Stage get finished a lot faster, since I would have much more time to spend on making sure this is finished quickly and to focus on potential areas of error, such as hosting, UX, outreach, etc. It would also let me pay the developer and QA who’ve been doing great work, letting them spend more time on the project. Next will be Stage 2, where a scoring system for criticisms and a ranking system for plans will be added. Plans will be ranked from top to bottom based on the total scores of their criticisms. Criticism votes are weighted, so users who have submitted higher scoring criticisms get a more heavily weighted vote on other criticisms. Alignment researchers will have the option of linking their AI-Plans account to accounts on research-relevant platforms (such as arxiv, openreview o
d4c88461-2f01-44ad-a616-4a05761c8777	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	New LW Meetup: Nairobi This summary was posted to LW Main on April 8th. The following week's summary is here. New meetups (or meetups with a hiatus of more than a year) are happening in: * Nairobi mini-Meetup #1: Double Crux: 30 April 2016 03:34PM Irregularly scheduled Less Wrong meetups are taking place in: * Ann Arbor Meetup: 16 April 2016 07:00PM * Baltimore: Intro to LW / general discussion: 10 April 2016 10:00AM * European Community Weekend: 02 September 2016 03:35PM * New Hampshire Meetup: 12 April 2016 07:00PM * San Antonio Meetup: 10 April 2016 02:00PM The remaining meetups take place in cities with regular scheduling, but involve a change in time or location, special meeting content, or simply a helpful reminder about the meetup: * Sydney Rationality Dojo - April 2016: 10 April 2016 04:00PM * Vienna Meetup: 16 April 2016 02:00PM * Vienna Meetup: 23 April 2016 03:00PM * Washington, D.C.: Cherry Blossoms: 10 April 2016 03:30PM Locations with regularly scheduled meetups: Austin, Berkeley, Berlin, Boston, Brussels, Buffalo, Canberra, Columbus, Denver, Kraków, London, Madison WI, Melbourne, Moscow, Mountain View, New Hampshire, New York, Philadelphia, Research Triangle NC, Seattle, Sydney, Tel Aviv, Toronto, Vienna, Washington DC, and West Los Angeles. There's also a 24/7 online study hall for coworking LWers and a Slack channel for daily discussion and online meetups on Sunday night US time. If you'd like to talk with other LW-ers face to face, and there is no meetup in your area, consider starting your own meetup; it's easy (more resources here). Check one out, stretch your rationality skills, build community, and have fun! In addition to the handy sidebar of upcoming meetups, a meetup overview is posted on the front page every Friday. These are an attempt to collect information on all the meetups happening in upcoming weeks. The best way to get your meetup featured is still to use the Add New Meetup feature, but you'll also have the benefit of having your meet
d837c5b9-d83a-457e-a888-4ac6902f07a0	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/alignmentforum	Alignment Forum	Comparing Utilities (This is a basic point about utility theory which many will already be familiar with. I draw some non-obvious conclusions which may be of interest to you even if you think you know this from the title -- but the main point is to communicate the basics. I'm posting it to the alignment forum because I've heard misunderstandings of this from some in the AI alignment research community.) I will first give the basic argument that the utility quantities of different agents aren't directly comparable, and a few important consequences of this. I'll then spend the rest of the post discussing what to do when you need to compare utility functions. Utilities aren't comparable. ============================ Utility isn't an ordinary quantity. A utility function is a device for expressing the preferences of an agent. Suppose we have a notion of outcome.\* We could try to represent the agent's preferences between outcomes as an ordering relation: if we have outcomes A, B, and C, then one possible preference would be A<B<C. However, a mere ordering does not tell us how the agent would decide between gambles, ie, situations giving A, B, and C with some probability. With just three outcomes, there is only one thing we need to know: is B closer to A or C, and by how much? ![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/70c2563b8fe60460a975a6000ca0aee95873c72e7fbbe2ce.png)We want to construct a utility function U() which represents the preferences. Let's say we set U(A)=0 and U(C)=1. Then we can represent B=G as U(B)=1/2. If not, we would look for a different gamble which does equal B, and then set B's utility to the expected value of that gamble. By assigning real-numbered values to each outcome, we can fully represent an agent's preferences over gambles. (Assuming the [VNM axioms](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/F46jPraqp258q67nE/why-you-must-maximize-expected-utility) hold, that is.) But the initial choices U(A)=0 and U(C)=1 were arbitrary! We could have chosen any numbers so long as U(A)<U(C), reflecting the preference A<C. In general, a valid representation of our preferences U() can be modified into an equally valid U'() by adding/subtracting arbitrary numbers, or multiplying/dividing by positive numbers. ![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/727725a2910022ba355875e1cebc211b70ab91529a3900f2.png)So it's just as valid to say someone's expected utility in a given situation is 5 or -40, provided you shift everything else around appropriately. 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(I'll call a the *multiplicative constant* andbthe *additive constant.) This means that we can't directly compare the utility of two different agents. Notions of fairness should not directly say "everyone should have the same expected utility". Utilitarian ethics cannot directly maximize the sum of everyone's utility. Both of these operations should be thought of as a type error. Some non-obvious consequences. ============================== The game-theory term "zero sum" is a misnomer. You shouldn't directly think about the sum of the utilities. In mechanism design, exchangeable utility* is a useful assumption which is often needed in order to get nice results. The idea is that agents can give utils to each other, perhaps to compensate for unfair outcomes. This is kind of like assuming there's money which can be exchanged between agents. However, the non-comparability of utility should make this seem really weird. (There are also other disanalogies with money; for example, utility is closer to logarithmic in money, not linear.) This could (should?) also make you suspicious of talk of "average utilitarianism" and "total utilitarianism". However, beware: only one kind of "utilitarianism" holds that the term "utility" in decision theory means the same thing as "utility" in ethics: namely, preference utilitarianism. Other kinds of utilitarianism can distinguish between these two types of utility. (For example, one can be a hedonic utilitarian without thinking that what everyone wants is happiness, if one isn't a preference utilitarian.) Similarly, for preference utilitarians, talk of utility monsters becomes questionable. A utility monster is, supposedly, someone who gets much more utility out of resources than everyone else. For a hedonic utilitarian, it would be someone who experiences much deeper sadness and much higher heights of happiness. This person supposedly merits more resources than other people. For a preference utilitarian, incomparability of utility means we can't simply posit such a utility monster. It's meaningless a priori to say that one person simply has much stronger preferences than another (in the utility function sense). All that being said, we can actually compare utilities, sum them, exchange utility between agents, define utility monsters, and so on. We just need more information. Comparing utilities. ==================== The incomparability of utility functions *doesn't mean* we can't trade off between the utilities of different people. I've heard the non-comparability of utility functions summarized as the thesis that we can't say anything meaningful about the relative value of one person's suffering vs another person's convenience. Not so! Rather, the point is just that we need more assumptions in order to say anything. The utility functions alone aren't enough. Pareto-Optimality: The Minimal Standard --------------------------------------- Comparing utility functions suggests putting them all onto one scale, such that we can trade off between them -- "this dollar does more good for Alice than it does for Bob". We formalize this by imagining that we have to decide policy for the whole group of people we're considering (e.g., the whole world). We consider a social choice function which would make those decisions on behalf of everyone. Supposing it is VNM rational, its decisions must be comprehensible in terms of a utility function, too. So the problem reduces to combining a bunch of individual utility functions, to get one big one. So, how do we go about combining the preferences of many agents into one? The first and most important concept is the *pareto improvement: our social choice function should endorse changes which benefit someone and harm no one.* An option which allows no such improvements is said to be *Pareto-optimal.* We might also want to consider *strict Pareto improvements: a change which benefits everyone.* (An option which allows no strict Pareto improvements is *weakly Pareto-optimal.) Strict Pareto improvements can be more relevant [in a bargaining context](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/5bd75cc58225bf067037554e/distributed-cooperation?commentId=5bd75cc58225bf0670375550), where you need to give everyone something in order to get them on board with a proposal -- otherwise they may judge the improvement as unfairly favoring others. However, in a bargaining context, individuals may refuse even a strict Pareto improvement [due to fairness considerations](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/z2YwmzuT7nWx62Kfh/cooperating-with-agents-with-different-ideas-of-fairness). In either case, a version of [Harsanyi's utilitarianism Theorem](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/sZuw6SGfmZHvcAAEP/complete-class-consequentialist-foundations#Utilitarianism) implies that the utility of our social choice function can be understood as some linear combination of the individual utility functions.* So, pareto-optimal social choice functions can always be understood by: 1. Choosing a scale for everyone's utility function -- IE, set the multiplicative constant. (If the social choice function is only weakly Pareto optimal, some of the multiplicative constants might turn out to be zero, totally cancelling out someone's involvement. Otherwise, they can all be positive.) 2. Adding all of them together. (Note that the additive constant doesn't matter -- shifting a person's utility function up or down doesn't change what decisions will be endorsed by the sum. However, it *will* matter for some other ways to combine utility functions.) This is nice, because we can always combine everything linearly! We just have to set things to the right scale and then sum everything up. However, it's far from the end of the story. How do we choose multiplicative constants for everybody? Variance Normalization: Not Too Exploitable? -------------------------------------------- We could set the constants any way we want... totally subjective estimates of the worth of a person, draw random lots, etc. But we do typically want to represent some notion of fairness. We said in the beginning that the problem was, a utility function U(x) has many equivalent representations aU(x)+b. We can address this as a problem of *normalization:* we want to take a U and put it into a canonical form, getting rid of the choice between equivalent representations. One way of thinking about this is *strategy-proofness. A utilitarian collective should not be vulnerable to members strategically claiming that their preferences are stronger (larger b), or that they should get more because they're worse off than everyone (smaller a -- although, remember that we haven't talked about any setup which actually cares about that, yet). Warm-Up: Range Normalization* Unfortunately, some obvious ways to normalize utility functions are not going to be strategy-proof. One of the simplest normalization techniques is to squish everything into a specified range, such as [0,1]: ![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/03741ee30577de57315ff2adadd3be3ffd475eee72d31430.png)This is analogous to range voting: everyone reports their preferences for different outcomes on a fixed scale, and these all get summed together in order to make decisions. If you're an agent in a collective which uses range normalization, then you may want to strategically mis-report your preferences. In the example shown, the agent has a big hump around outcomes they like, and a small hump on a secondary "just OK" outcome. The agent might want to get rid of the second hump, forcing the group outcome into the more favored region. I believe that in the extreme, the optimal strategy for range voting is to choose some utility threshold. Anything below that threshold goes to zero, feigning maximal disapproval of the outcome. Anything above the threshold goes to one, feigning maximal approval. In other words, under strategic voting, range voting becomes approval voting (range voting where the only options are zero and one). If it's not possible to mis-report your preferences, then the incentive becomes to self-modify to literally have these extreme preferences. This could perhaps have a real-life analogue in political outrage and black-and-white thinking. If we use this normalization scheme, that's the closest you can get to being a utility monster. Variance Normalization We'd like to avoid any incentive to misrepresent/modify your utility function. Is there a way to achieve that? Owen Cotton-Barratt discusses different normalization techniques in illuminating detail, and argues for variance normalization: divide utility functions by their variance, making the variance one. ([Geometric reasons for normalizing variance to aggregate preferences, O Cotton-Barratt, 2013.](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.684.1180&rep=rep1&type=pdf)) Variance normalization is strategy-proof under the assumption that everyone participating in an election shares beliefs about how probable the different outcomes are! (Note that variance of utility is only well-defined under some assumption about probability of outcome.) That's pretty good. It's probably the best we can get, in terms of strategy-proofness of voting. Will MacAskill also argues for variance normalization in the context of normative uncertainty ([Normative Uncertainty, Will MacAskill, 2014](https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/34857095/Normative_Uncertainty__Complete.pdf?1411561048=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DNormative_Uncertainty.pdf&Expires=1599854518&Signature=Z-cD7ds~K1cZc-GlXyV~eppzxbVKlwJCIkz6AQIHUg4jOgQlMAcgi3X1cCX~Z~FSvXKAYEwTyqehuuxCkMA2hxguilao82uaF8cH7sEZxczg243o2S5k4sZ7-YeIp5cJ2U-UAsecA-JbROuHU9AkUnlR02-rL4q-JlAlCOBBP5CDjJC6aocEM1HEyL0bHxFXf7Wg~B4Jyf8KSlvdnuAbm7IFn~lbmrBLb6OQG5~VbGAz8rfH2AuZlbZOpdVoID~MgPtIZ9rF1kMAcrUAhS93D15BPd8XNDRAOtMKMvSs~5xh5Ok-7dQhTFhqXkk~YE4S23VoKGGwqGZp4yl9X6WnTQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA)). Intuitively, variance normalization directly addresses the issue we encountered with range normalization: an individual attempts to make their preferences "loud" by extremizing everything to 0 or 1. This increases variance, so, is directly punished by variance normalization. However, [Jameson Quinn](https://www.lesswrong.com/users/jameson-quinn), LessWrong's resident voting theory expert, has warned me rather strongly about variance normalization. 1. The assumption of shared beliefs about election outcomes is far from true in practice. Jameson Quinn tells me that, in fact, the strategic voting incentivized by quadratic voting is particularly bad amongst normalization techniques. 2. Strategy-proofness isn't, after all, the final arbiter of the quality of a voting method. The final arbiter should be something like the utilitarian quality of an election's outcome. This question gets a bit weird and recursive in the current context, where I'm using elections as an analogy to ask how we should define utilitarian outcomes. But the point still, to some extent, stands. I didn't understand the full justification behind his point, but I came away thinking that range normalization was probably better in practice. After all, it reduces to approval voting, which is actually a pretty good form of voting. But if you want to do the best we can with the state of voting theory, Jameson Quinn suggested 3-2-1 voting. (I don't think 3-2-1 voting gives us any nice theory about how to combine utility functions, though, so it isn't so useful for our purposes.) Open Question: Is there a variant of variance normalization which takes differing beliefs into account, to achieve strategy-proofness (IE honest reporting of utility)? Anyway, so much for normalization techniques. These techniques ignore the broader context. They attempt to be fair and even-handed in the way we choose the multiplicative and additive constants. But we could also explicitly try to be fair and even-handed in the way we choose between Pareto-optimal outcomes, as with this next technique. Nash Bargaining Solution ------------------------ It's important to remember that the Nash bargaining solution is a solution to the Nash bargaining problem, which isn't quite our problem here. But I'm going to gloss over that. Just imagine that we're setting the social choice function through a massive negotiation, so that we can apply bargaining theory. Nash offers a very simple solution, which I'll get to in a minute. But first, a few words on how this solution is derived. Nash provides two seperate justifications for his solution. The first is a game-theoretic derivation of the solution as an especially robust Nash equilibrium. I won't detail that here; I quite recommend [his original paper](http://www.rasmusen.org/GI/reader/12a.nash.bargaining.1950.pdf) (The Bargaining Problem, 1950); but, just keep in mind that there is at least some reason to expect selfishly rational agents to hit upon this particular solution. The second, unrelated justification is an axiomatic one: 1. Invariance to equivalent utility functions. This is the same motivation I gave when discussing normalization. 2. Pareto optimality. We've already discussed this as well. 3. Independence of Irrelevant Alternatives (IIA). This says that we shouldn't change the outcome of bargaining by removing options which won't ultimately get chosen anyway. This isn't even technically one of the VNM axioms, but it essentially is -- the VNM axioms are posed for binary preferences (a > b). IIA is the assumption we need to break down multi-choice preferences to binary choices. We can justify IIA with [a kind of money pump](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/5bd75cc58225bf067037539a/generalizing-foundations-of-decision-theory-ii). 4. Symmetry. This says that the outcome doesn't depend on the order of the bargainers; we don't prefer Player 1 in case of a tie, or anything like that. Nash proved that the only way to meet these four criteria is to maximize the product of gains from cooperation. More formally, choose the outcome x which maximizes: (U1(x)−U1(d))(U2(x)−U2(d))The d here is a "status quo" outcome. You can think of this as what happens if the bargaining fails. This is sometimes called a "threat point", since strategic players should carefully set what they do if negotiation fails so as to maximize their bargaining position. However, you might also want to rule that out, forcing d to be a Nash equilibrium in the hypothetical game where there is no bargaining opportunity. As such, d is also known as the best alternative to negotiated agreement (BATNA), or sometimes the "disagreement point" (since it's what players get if they can't agree). We can think of subtracting out U(d) as just a way of adjusting the additive constant, in which case we really are just maximizing the product of utilities. (The BATNA point is always (0,0) after we subtract out things that way.) The Nash solution differs significantly from the other solutions considered so far. 1. Maximize the product?? Didn't Harsanyi's theorem guarantee we only need to worry about sums? 2. This is the first proposal where the additive constants matter. Indeed, now the multiplicative constants are the ones that don't matter! 3. Why wouldn't any utility-normalization approach satisfy those four axioms? Last question first: how do normalization approaches violate the Nash axioms? Well, both range normalization and variance normalization violate IIA! If you remove one of the possible outcomes, the normalization may change. This makes the social choice function display inconsistent preferences across different scenarios. (But how bad is that, really?) As for why we can get away with maximizing the product, rather than the sum: The Pareto-optimality of Nash's approach guarantees that it can be seen as maximizing a linear function of the individual utilities. So Harsanyi's theorem is still satisfied. However, Nash's solution points to a very specific outcome, which Harsanyi doesn't do for us. Imagine you and me are trying to split a dollar. If we can't agree on how to split it, then we'll end up destroying it (ripping it during a desperate attempt to wrestle it from each other's hands, obviously). Thankfully, John Nash is standing by, and we each agree to respect his judgement. No matter which of us claims to value the dollar more, Nash will allocate 50 cents to each of us. Harsanyi happens to see this exchange, and explains that Nash has chosen a social choice function which normalized our utility functions to be equal to each other. That's the only way Harsanyi can explain the choice made by Nash -- the value of the dollar was precisely tied between you and me, so a 50-50 split was as good as any other outcome. Harsanyi's justification is indeed consistent with the observation. But why, then, did Nash choose 50-50 precisely? 49-51 would have had exactly the same collective utility, as would 40-60, or any other split! Hence, Nash's principle is far more useful than Harsanyi's, even though Harsanyi can justify any rational outcome retrospectively. However, Nash does rely somewhat on that pesky IIA assumption, whose importance is perhaps not so clear. Let's try getting rid of that. Kalai–Smorodinsky ----------------- Although the Nash bargaining solution is the most famous, there are other proposed solutions to Nash's bargaining problem. I want to mention just one more, Kalai-Smorodinsky (I'll call it KS). KS throws out IIA as irrelevant. After all, the set of alternatives will affect bargaining. Even in the Nash solution, the set of alternatives may have an influence by changing the BATNA! So perhaps this assumption isn't so important. KS instead adds a monotonicity assumption: being in a better position should never make me worse off after bargaining. Here's an illustration, due to Daniel Demski, of a case where Nash bargaining fails monotonicity: ![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/b6d1b6bb67fe303b168677d37fe682f817d68581879f57e5.jpeg)![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/c52e2fe0e1c0400436e528b5f0ac1f471310bb4315160e57.jpeg)![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/723a1686fe305c117cc468de3a53f2a53de729844a708241.jpeg)I'm not that sure monotonicity really should be an axiom, but it does kind of suck to be in an apparently better position and end up worse off for it. Maybe we could relate this to strategy-proofness? A little? Not sure about that. Let's look at the formula for KS bargaining. Suppose there are a couple of dollars on the ground: one which you'll walk by first, and one which I'll walk by. If you pick up your dollar, you can keep it. If I pick up my dollar, I can keep mine. But also, if you don't pick up yours, then I'll eventually walk by it and can pick it up. So we get the following: ![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/33ae90d543db57832167eb6920b1bf257e65b1c23da49b99.png)(The box is filled in because we can also use mixed strategies to get values intermediate between any pure strategies.) Obviously in the real world we just both pick up our dollars. But, let's suppose we bargain about it, just for fun. The way KS works is, you look at the maximum one player can get (you can get $1), and the maximum the other player could get (I can get $2). Then, although we can't usually jointly achieve those payoffs (I can't get $2 at the same time as you get $1), KS bargaining insists we achieve the same ratio (I should get twice as much as you). In this case, that means I get $1.33, while you get $0.66. We can visualize this as drawing a bounding box around the feasible solutions, and drawing a diagonal line. Here's the Nash and KS solutions side by side: ![](https://39669.cdn.cke-cs.com/rQvD3VnunXZu34m86e5f/images/6d3cf95df139e51c156cd92879c6754ce2b4addeb3d6ce93.png)As in Daniel's illustrations, we can visualize maximizing the product as drawing the largest hyperbola we can that still touches the orange shape. (Orange dotted line.) This suggests that we each get $1; exactly the same solution as Nash would give for splitting $2. (The black dotted line illustrates how we'd continue the feasible region to represent a dollar-splitting game, getting the full triangle rather than a chopped off portion.) Nash doesn't care that one of us can do better than the other; it just looks for the most equal division of funds possible, since that's how we maximize the product. KS, on the other hand, cares what the max possible is for both of us. It therefore suggests that you give up some of your dollar to me. I suspect most readers will *not* find the KS solution to be more intuitively appealing? Note that the KS monotonicity property does NOT imply the desirable-sounding property "if there are more opportunities for good outcomes, everyone gets more or is at least not worse off." (I mention this mainly because I initially misinterpreted KS's monotonicity property this way.) In my dollar-collecting example, KS bargaining makes you worse off simply because there's an opportunity for me to take your dollar if you don't. Like Nash bargaining, KS bargaining ignores multiplicative constants on utility functions, and can be seen as normalizing additive constants by treating d as (0,0). (Note that, in the illustration, I assumed d is chosen as (minimal achievable for one player, minimal achievable for the other). this need not be the case in general.) A peculiar aspect of KS bargaining is that it doesn't really give us an obvious quantity to maximize, unlike Nash or Harsanyi. It only describes the optimal point. This seems far less practical, for realistic decision-making. OK, so, should we use bargaining solutions to compare utilities? My intuition is that, because of the need to choose the BATNA point d, bargaining solutions end up rewarding destructive threats in a disturbing way. For example, suppose that we are playing the dollar-splitting game again, except that I can costlessly destroy $20 of your money, so d now involves both the destruction of the $1, and the destruction of $20. Nash bargaining now hands the entire dollar to me, because you are "up $20" in that deal, so the fairest possible outcome is to give me the $1. KS bargaining splits things up a little, but I still get most of the dollar. If utilitarians were to trade off utilities that way in the real world, it would benefit powerful people, especially those willing to exploit their power to make credible threats. If X can take everything away from Y, then Nash bargaining sees everything Y has as already counting toward "gains from trade". As I mentioned before, sometimes people try to define BATNAs in a way which excludes these kinds of threats. However, I see this as ripe for strategic utility-spoofing (IE, lying about your preferences, or self-modifying to have more advantageous preferences). So, this might favor normalization approaches. On the other hand, Nash and KS both do way better in the split-the-dollar game than any normalization technique, because they can optimize for fairness of outcome, rather than just fairness of multiplicative constants chosen to compare utility functions with. Is there any approach which combines the advantages of bargaining and normalization?? Animals, etc. ============= An essay on utility comparison would be incomplete without at least mentioning the problem of animals, plants, and so on. * Option one: some cutoff for "moral patients" is defined, such that a utilitarian only considers preferences of agents who exceed the cutoff. * Option two: some more continuous notion is selected, such that we care more about some organisms than others. Option two tends to be more appealing to me, despite the non-egalitarian implications (e.g., if animals differ on this spectrum, than humans could have some variation as well). As already discussed, bargaining approaches do seem to have this feature: animals would tend to get less consideration, because they've got less "bargaining power" (they can do less harm to humans than humans can do to them). However, this has a distasteful might-makes-right flavor to it. This also brings to the forefront the question of how we view something as an agent. Something like a plant might have quite deterministic ways of reacting to environmental stimulus. Can we view it as making choices, and thus, as having preferences? Perhaps "to some degree" -- if such a degree could be defined, numerically, it could factor into utility comparisons, giving a formal way of valuing plants and animals somewhat, but "not too much". Altruistic agents. ================== Another puzzling case, which I think needs to be handled carefully, is accounting for the preferences of altruistic agents. Let's proceed with a simplistic model where agents have "personal preferences" (preferences which just have to do with themselves, in some sense) and "*cofrences" (co-preferences; preferences having to do with other agents). Here's an agent named Sandy: \| \| \| --- \| \| Sandy \| \| Personal Preferences \| Cofrences \| \| Candy \| +.1 \| Alice \| +.1 \| \| Pizza \| +.2 \| Bob \| -.2 \| \| Rainbows \| +10 \| Cathy \| +.3 \| \| Kittens \| -20 \| Dennis \| +.4 \| The cofrences represent coefficients on other agent's utility functions. Sandy's preferences are supposed to be understood as a utility function representing Sandy's personal* preferences, plus a weighted sum of the utility functions of Alice, Bob, Cathy, and Dennis. (Note that the weights can, hypothetically, be negative -- for example, screw Bob.) The first problem is that utility functions are not comparable, so we have to say more before we can understand what "weighted sum" is supposed to mean. But suppose we've chosen some utility normalization technique. There are still other problems. Notice that we can't totally define Sandy's utility function until we've defined Alice's, Bob's, Cathy's, and Dennis'. But any of those four might have cofrences which involve Sandy, as well! Suppose we have Avery and Briar, two lovers who "only care about each other" -- their only preference is a cofrence, which places 1.0 value on the other's utility function. We could ascribe any values at all to them, so long as they're both the same! With some technical assumptions (something along the lines of: your cofrences always sum to less than 1), we can ensure a unique fixed point, eliminating any ambiguity from the interpretation of cofrences. However, I'm skeptical of just taking the fixed point here. Suppose we have five siblings: Primus, Secundus, Tertius, Quartus, et Quintus. All of them value each other at .1, except Primus, who values all siblings at .2. If we simply take the fixed point, Primus is going to get the short end of the stick all the time: because Primus cares about everyone else more, everyone else cares about Primus' personal preferences less than anyone else's. Simply put, I don't think more altruistic individuals should be punished! In this setup, the "utility monster" is the perfectly selfish individual. Altruists will be scrambling to help this person while the selfish person does nothing in return. A different way to do things is to interpret cofrences as integrating only the personal preferences of the other person. So Sandy wants to help Alice, Cathy, and Dennis (and harm Bob), but does not automatically extend that to wanting to help any of their friends (or harm Bob's friends). This is a little weird, but gives us a more intuitive outcome in the case of the five siblings: Primus will more often be voluntarily helpful to the other siblings, but the other siblings won't be prejudice against the personal preferences of Primus when weighing between their various siblings. I realize altruism isn't exactly supposed to be like a bargain struck between selfish agents. But if I think of utilitarianism like a coalition of all agents, then I don't want it to punish the (selfish component of) the most altruistic members. It seems like utilitarianism should have better incentives than that? (Try to take this section as more of a problem statement and less of a solution. Note that the concept of cofrence can include, more generally, preferences such as "I want to be better off than other people" or "I don't want my utility to be too different from other people's in either direction".) Utility monsters. ================= Returning to some of the points I raised in the "non-obvious consequences" section -- now we can see how "utility monsters" are/aren't a concern. On my analysis, a utility monster is just an agent who, according to your metric for comparing utility functions, has a very large influence on the social choice function. This might be a bug, in which case you should reconsider how you are comparing utilities. But, since you've hopefully chosen your approach carefully, it could also not be a bug. In that case, you'd want to bite the bullet fully, defending the claim that such an agent should receive "disproportionate" consideration. Presumably this claim could be backed up, on the strength of your argument for the utility-comparison approach. Average utilitarianism vs total utilitarianism. =============================================== Now that we have given some options for utility comparison, can we use them to make sense of the distinction between average utilitarianism and total utilitarianism? No. Utility comparison doesn't really help us there. The average vs total debate is a debate about population ethics. Harsanyi's utilitarianism theorem and related approaches let us think about altruistic policies for a fixed set of agents. They don't tell us how to think about a set which changes over time, as new agents come into existence. Allowing the set to vary over time like this feels similar to allowing a single agent to change its utility function. There is no rule against this. An agent can prefer to have different preferences than it does. A collective of agents can prefer to extend its altruism to new agents who come into existence. However, I see no reason why population ethics needs to be simple. We can have relatively complex preferences here. So, I don't find paradoxes such as the Repugnant Conclusion to be especially concerning. To me there's just this complicated question about what everyone collectively wants for the future. One of the basic questions about utilitarianism shouldn't be "average vs total?". To me, this is a type error. It seems to me, more basic questions for a (preference) utilitarian are: * How do you combine individual preferences into a collective utility function? + How do you compare utilities between people (and animals, etc)? - Do you care about an "objective" solution to this, or do you see it as a subjective aspect of altruistic preferences, which can be set in an unprincipled way? - Do you range-normalize? - Do you variance-normalize? - Do you care about strategy-proofness? - How do you evaluate the bargaining framing? Is it relevant, or irrelevant? - Do you care about Nash's axioms? - Do you care about monotonicity? - What distinguishes humans from animals and plants, and how do you use it in utility comparison? Intelligence? Agenticness? Power? Bargaining position? + How do you handle cofrences? \: Agents need not have a concept of outcome, in which case they [don't really have a utility function](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/A8iGaZ3uHNNGgJeaD/an-orthodox-case-against-utility-functions) (because utility functions are functions of outcomes*). However, this does not significantly impact any of the points made in this post.
b43833bf-a711-4624-aa40-ee87279fced4	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	The Cave Allegory Revisited: Understanding GPT's Worldview A short post describing a metaphor I find useful, in particular for explaining some intuitions about systems like GPT to people who don't have deeper technical knowledge about large generative models. Plato's allegory of the cave has been a staple of philosophical discourse for millenia, providing a metaphor for understanding the limits of human perception. In the classical allegory, we are prisoners shackled to a wall of a cave, unable to experience reality directly but only able to infer it based on watching shadows cast on the wall.[1] GPT can be thought of as a blind oracle residing in a deeper cave, where it does not even see the shadows but only hears our conversations in the first cave, always trying to predict the next syllable. It is remarkable that it still learns a lot about the world outside of the cave. Why does it learn this? Because, a model of reality outside of the cave and a decent amount of abstraction are useful for predicting the conversations in the first cave! Moreover, GPT also learns about the speakers in the first cave, as understanding their styles and patterns of speech is crucial for its prediction task. As the speakers are closer to GPT, understanding their styles is in some sense easier and more natural than guessing what's outside of the cave. What does the second cave allegory illustrate? The first insight from the allegory is: if you are in GPT's place, part of the difficulty in figuring out what's going on outside the cave, is that people in the first cave talk a lot about other things apart from the shadows of the real world. Sometimes, they talk about happenings in Middle Earth. Or about how the shadows would look in some counterfactual world. As humans, we are blessed with the luxury of being able to compare such statements to the shadows and determine their veracity. The difference between conversations about fantasy and the shadows of the real world is usually extremely obvious to humans: we never see dragon shadows.
fa31fb7b-e213-4a27-ad98-8fd698a4b8fa	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/alignmentforum	Alignment Forum	Harsanyi's Social Aggregation Theorem and what it means for CEV A Friendly AI would have to be able to aggregate each person's preferences into one utility function. The most straightforward and obvious way to do this is to agree on some way to normalize each individual's utility function, and then add them up. But many people don't like this, usually for reasons involving utility monsters. If you are one of these people, then you better learn to like it, because according to Harsanyi's Social Aggregation Theorem, any alternative can result in the supposedly Friendly AI making a choice that is bad for every member of the population. More formally, Axiom 1: Every person, and the FAI, are [VNM-rational](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann%E2%80%93Morgenstern_utility_theorem) agents. Axiom 2: Given any two choices A and B such that every person prefers A over B, then the FAI prefers A over B. Axiom 3: There exist two choices A and B such that every person prefers A over B. (Edit: Note that I'm assuming a fixed population with fixed preferences. This still seems reasonable, because we wouldn't want the FAI to be dynamically inconsistent, so it would have to draw its values from a fixed population, such as the people alive now. Alternatively, even if you want the FAI to aggregate the preferences of a changing population, the theorem still applies, but this comes with it's own problems, such as giving people (possibly including the FAI) incentives to create, destroy, and modify other people to make the aggregated utility function more favorable to them.) Give each person a unique integer label from ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?1) to ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?n), where ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?n) is the number of people. For each person ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?k), let ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?u_{k}) be some function that, interpreted as a utility function, accurately describes ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?k)'s preferences (there exists such a function by the VNM utility theorem). Note that I want ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?u_%7Bk%7D) to be some particular function, distinct from, for instance, ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?2u_{k}-7), even though ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?u_%7Bk%7D) and ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?2u_%7Bk%7D-7) represent the same utility function. This is so it makes sense to add them. Theorem: The FAI maximizes the expected value of ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?{\displaystyle%20\sum_{k=1}^{n}c_{k}u_{k}}), for some set of scalars ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?\left\{%20c_{k}\right\}%20_{k=1}^{n}). Actually, I changed the axioms a little bit. Harsanyi originally used “Given any two choices A and B such that every person is indifferent between A and B, the FAI is indifferent between A and B” in place of my axioms 2 and 3 (also he didn't call it an FAI, of course). For the proof (from Harsanyi's axioms), see section III of [Harsanyi (1955)](http://darp.lse.ac.uk/papersdb/Harsanyi_%28JPolE_55%29.pdf), or section 2 of [Hammond (1992)](http://www.stanford.edu/~hammond/HarsanyiFest.pdf). Hammond claims that his proof is simpler, but he uses jargon that scared me, and I found Harsanyi's proof to be fairly straightforward. Harsanyi's axioms seem fairly reasonable to me, but I can imagine someone objecting, “But if no one else cares, what's wrong with the FAI having a preference anyway. It's not like that would harm us.” I will concede that there is no harm in allowing the FAI to have a [weak preference](/lw/244/vnm_expected_utility_theory_uses_abuses_and/#cont) one way or another, but if the FAI has a strong preference, that being the only thing that is reflected in the utility function, and if axiom 3 is true, then axiom 2 is violated. proof that my axioms imply Harsanyi's: Let A and B be any two choices such that every person is indifferent between A and B. By axiom 3, there exists choices C and D such that every person prefers C over D. Now consider the lotteries ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?pC+\left%281-p\right%29A) and ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?pD+\left%281-p\right%29B), for ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?p>0). Notice that every person prefers the first lottery to the second, so by axiom 2, the FAI prefers the first lottery. This remains true for arbitrarily small ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?p%3E0), so by continuity, the FAI must not prefer the second lottery for ![](http://www.codecogs.com/png.latex?p=0); that is, the FAI must not prefer B over A. We can “sweeten the pot” in favor of B the same way, so by the same reasoning, the FAI must not prefer A over B. So why should you accept my axioms? Axiom 1: The VNM utility axioms are widely agreed to be necessary for any rational agent. Axiom 2: There's something a little rediculous about claiming that every member of a group prefers A to B, but that the group in aggregate does not prefer A to B. Axiom 3: This axiom is just to establish that it is even possible to aggregate the utility functions in a way that violates axiom 2. So essentially, the theorem is “If it is possible for anything to go horribly wrong, and the FAI does not maximize a linear combination of the people's utility functions, then something will go horribly wrong.” Also, axiom 3 will almost always be true, because it is true when the utility functions are linearly independent, and almost all finite sets of functions are linearly independent. There are terrorists who hate your freedom, but even they care at least a little bit about something other than the opposite of what you care about. At this point, you might be protesting, “But what about equality? That's definitely a good thing, right? I want something in the FAI's utility function that accounts for equality.” Equality is a good thing, but only because we are risk averse, and risk aversion is already accounted for in the individual utility functions. People often talk about equality being valuable even after accounting for risk aversion, but as Harsanyi's theorem shows, if you do add an extra term in the FAI's utility function to account for equality, then you risk designing an FAI that makes a choice that humanity unanimously disagrees with. Is this extra equality term so important to you that you would be willing to accept that? Remember that VNM utility has a precise decision-theoretic meaning. Twice as much utility does not correspond to your intuitions about what “twice as much goodness” means. Your intuitions about the best way to distribute goodness to people will not necessarily be good ways to distribute utility. The axioms I used were extremely rudimentary, whereas the intuition that generated "there should be a term for equality or something" is untrustworthy. If they come into conflict, you can't keep all of them. I don't see any way to justify giving up axioms 1 or 2, and axiom 3 will likely remain true whether you want it to or not, so you should probably give up whatever else you wanted to add to the FAI's utility function. Citations: Harsanyi, John C. "Cardinal welfare, individualistic ethics, and interpersonal comparisons of utility." The Journal of Political Economy (1955): 309-321. Hammond, Peter J. "Harsanyi’s utilitarian theorem: A simpler proof and some ethical connotations." IN R. SELTEN (ED.) RATIONAL INTERACTION: ESSAYS IN HONOR OF JOHN HARSANYI. 1992.
a9ca0467-b084-4181-b370-7d4e20f01e29	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Tech for Thinking My post on Neutrality was kind of abstract, and I think it’s time to do a follow-up that’s more concrete. Specifically, the place where I think there’s something to be done is in information technology, and the ways it shapes the perceived “world”. One way of looking at this: we had the institutional media era in the 20th century (newspapers and magazines, book publishers, broadcast television and radio), then the “Web 2.0” era of blogs and social media as more and more of the world joined the Internet, and now we may be at the beginning of a new information paradigm that’s mediated by LLMs. Some people are interested in making that new information paradigm “good” in some sense. As I said earlier: > [most media & internet tech today] just isn’t prepared to do the job of being, y’know, good. > > in the sense that a library staffed by idealistic librarians is trying to be good, trying to not take sides and serve all people without preaching or bossing or censoring, but is also sort of trying to be a role model for children and a good starting point for anyone’s education and a window into the “higher” things humanity is capable of. Ideally we would like information/media that, on balance: * is true, not false * is honest, not deceptive * is high quality, not slop * makes people smarter, not stupider * promotes agency, not passivity * is uplifting, not degrading * promotes maturity and wisdom, not arrested development or insanity and yet, we also want to avoid overcorrecting towards censorship, bias, priggishness, or overly narrow conceptions of The Good. Part of what I was talking about in the earlier post is what it even means to strike that balance of “neutrality” and what a realistic, possible version of it would be. It’s impossible to be “neutral” towards all things, but you can be relatively neutral in a way that effectively serves people coming from many perspectives. This is a good moment to think about what we want the “new world” to look lik
3eb99f52-d474-4541-b2d6-39bceec2b0f7	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	[QUESTION]: Looking for insights from machine learning that helped improve state-of-the-art human thinking This question is a follow-up of sorts to my earlier question on academic social science and machine learning. Machine learning algorithms are used for a wide range of prediction tasks, including binary (yes/no) prediction and prediction of continuous variables. For binary prediction, common models include logistic regression, support vector machines, neural networks, and decision trees and forests. Now, I do know that methods such as linear and logistic regression, and other regression-type techniques, are used extensively in science and social science research. Some of this research looks at the coefficients of such a model and then re-interprets them. I'm interesting in examples where knowledge of the insides of other machine learning techniques (i.e., knowledge of the parameters for which the models perform well) has helped provide insights that are of direct human value, or perhaps even directly improved unaided human ability. In my earlier post, I linked to an example (courtesy Sebastian Kwiatkowski) where the results of naive Bayes and SVM classifiers for hotel reviews could be translated into human-understandable terms (namely, reviews that mentioned physical aspects of the hotel, such as "small bedroom", were more likely to be truthful than reviews that talked about the reasons for the visit or the company that sponsored the visit). PS: Here's a very quick description of how these supervised learning algorithms work. We first postulate a functional form that describes how the output depends on the input. For instance, the functional form in the case of logistic regression outputs the probability as the logistic function applied to a linear combination of the inputs (features). The functional form has a number of unknown parameters. Specific values of the parameters give specific functions that can be used to make predictions. Our goal is to find the parameter values. We use a huge amount of labeled training data, plus a cost function (which itself typi
42af5b43-d391-41ce-a586-08d33dabf144	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Meaning is Quasi-Idempotent When we talk about the meaning of words, what exactly do we mean? What is this thing that we refer to as "meaning"? This is something of a paradoxical question. If there was consensus on meaning, then there wouldn't be any need to ask the question. But if there isn't consensus then it is unclear exactly is being asked! There seems to be some kind of infinite regress or circularity. However, that doesn't mean that we are stuck. We want meaning to mean something and we want the meaning of meaning to be itself. If we write this as a function, we get the follow: > meaning("meaning") = meaning OR meaning(quote(meaning)) = meaning If it weren't for the quotes, then it would be idempotent. Instead we'll call this quasi-idempotence. Given these requirements, we can't say that meaning is something absurd like a banana, as that wouldn't define a function. Other potential definitions of meaning will be ruled out by quasi-idempotence as we are about to see. Let's suppose we say meaning is purely descriptive, as opposed to prescriptive. That is, to find the meaning of a word, we should go out into the world and see how people use it in the language games they play and call that the meaning. Well, then we should do the same for the word "meaning". And from what I can gather, in some language games people are in fact just trying to get things done and say the things that need to be said to play a particular language game. And in other language games, there's some kind of centralised or decentralised authority and people are trying to use the word the same as them. This occurs in science or other technical fields. So we said meaning was descriptive, but then when we calculated meaning(meaning) we saw it was sometimes descriptive and sometimes prescriptive. So this definition ended up undermined itself. On the other hand, let's suppose we said that the meaning of a word was its Platonic Form. It is easy enough to show that this is quasi-idempotent: > meaning("meaning") = form(
5c47507a-3b5a-40a8-aa4a-d865e5ceca0e	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Meetup : Pittsburgh: Mind Hack Show and Tell Discussion article for the meetup : Pittsburgh: Mind Hack Show and Tell WHEN: 18 September 2012 06:00:00PM (-0400) WHERE: EatUnique, Craig St, Pittsburgh How have you made your brain work better? Bring your stories and/or statistics. Failed experiments also welcome. Eatunique serves salads, wraps, sandwiches, drinks, and that kind of thing. Call 412-304-6258 if you can't find us. Our mailing list is at https://groups.google.com/group/lw-pgh?pli=1 Discussion article for the meetup : Pittsburgh: Mind Hack Show and Tell
4d51be8f-0434-4841-b334-f9ee0595b07f	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/blogs	Blogs	May 2017 Newsletter \| \| \| --- \| \| Research updates * New at IAFF: [The Ubiquitous Converse Lawvere Problem](https://agentfoundations.org/item?id=1372); [Two Major Obstacles for Logical Inductor Decision Theory](https://agentfoundations.org/item?id=1399); [Generalizing Foundations of Decision Theory II](https://agentfoundations.org/item?id=1341). * New at AI Impacts: [Guide to Pages on AI Timeline Predictions](http://aiimpacts.org/guide-to-pages-on-ai-timeline-predictions/) * “[Decisions Are For Making Bad Outcomes Inconsistent](https://intelligence.org/2017/04/07/decisions-are-for-making-bad-outcomes-inconsistent/)”: Nate Soares dialogues on some of the deeper issues raised by our “[Cheating Death in Damascus](https://intelligence.org/2017/03/18/new-paper-cheating-death-in-damascus/)” paper. * We ran a machine learning [workshop](https://intelligence.org/workshops/#april-2017) in early April. * “[Ensuring Smarter-Than-Human Intelligence Has a Positive Outcome](https://intelligence.org/2017/04/12/ensuring/)”: Nate’s talk at Google ([video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY3zDvoLoao)) provides probably the best general introduction to MIRI’s work on AI alignment. General updates * Our [strategy update](https://intelligence.org/2017/04/30/2017-updates-and-strategy/) discusses changes to our AI forecasts and research priorities, new outreach goals, a MIRI/DeepMind collaboration, and other news. * [MIRI is hiring software engineers!](https://intelligence.org/2017/04/30/software-engineer-internship-staff-openings/) If you’re a programmer who’s passionate about MIRI’s mission and wants to directly support our research efforts, [apply here](https://machineintelligence.typeform.com/to/j8LRNq) to trial with us. * MIRI Assistant Research Fellow Ryan Carey has taken on an additional [affiliation](http://cser.org/new-research-affiliates/) with the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk, and is also helping edit an issue of [Informatica](http://www.informatica.si/index.php/informatica/pages/view/csi3) on superintelligence. News and links * DeepMind researcher Viktoriya Krakovna lists [security highlights from ICLR](https://futureoflife.org/2017/05/01/machine-learning-security-iclr-2017/). * DeepMind is [seeking applicants](https://deepmind.com/careers/655890/v) for a policy research position “to carry out research on the social and economic impacts of AI”. * The Center for Human-Compatible AI [is hiring an assistant director](http://humancompatible.ai/jobs/#assistant-director). Interested parties may also wish to apply for the [event coordinator](http://existence.org/jobs/event-coordinator) position at the new Berkeley Existential Risk Initiative, which will help support work at CHAI and elsewhere. * 80,000 Hours lists other potentially high-impact [openings](https://80000hours.org/job-board/), including ones at Stanford’s AI Index project, the [White House OSTP](https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/internship), [IARPA](https://www.iarpa.gov/index.php/careers/become-a-program-manager), and [IVADO](http://www.lecre.umontreal.ca/poste-dagente-de-recherche-en-ethique-de-lintelligence-artificielle-au-cre/). * New papers: “[One-Shot Imitation Learning](https://arxiv.org/abs/1703.07326)” and “[Stochastic Gradient Descent as Approximate Bayesian Inference](https://arxiv.org/abs/1704.04289).” * The Open Philanthropy Project summarizes its findings on [early field growth](http://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/new-report-early-field-growth). * The Centre for Effective Altruism is collecting donations for the [Effective Altruism Funds](http://effective-altruism.com/ea/17v/ea_funds_beta_launch/) in a range of cause areas. \| The post [May 2017 Newsletter](https://intelligence.org/2017/05/10/may-2017-newsletter/) appeared first on [Machine Intelligence Research Institute](https://intelligence.org).
2f8248d8-692f-4974-b3ed-7e3e3876a482	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Calibrating Adequate Food Consumption > There is no such thing as healthy or unhealthy food; instead, there is only appropriate or inappropriate diet. [1] The word 'healthy' is tabooed at my home. My kids - and maybe guests - have to use other descriptions of what they mean. At our soup party, there are frequently sweets on the table. Unhealthy? Forbidden! And there are carrot slices. Healthy? Forbidden! You may ask: Does it provide needed vitamins or nutrients? Why are these needed specifically? Does it improve digestion, e.g., via fiber? Why is that needed? Does it provide proteins for growth or carbohydrates for energy? Really, the word 'healthy' is an oversimplification that is exploited by food ads and diet books. But it is worse. If 'healthy' would only suffer from not matching reality well, like in the Blegg/Rube example, then talking more might help. But many seem to add a halo of goodness to it that suppresses any need to add nuance. I worry about what these distortions might lead to. With everything getting classified as healthy or unhealthy, does that leave any space for normal or adequate nutrition? So here I want to ask: What are the types of everyday diet that are just normal? How do you eat? What part of your diet do you consider in the OK range. The goal is to collect a long list of ways people eat where you probably do not have to worry about your health. Feel free to comment on whether you think the total amount of food is too much, but that shouldn't be the main focus. Please also leave Interventions to increase Longevity and Nootropics off the table. Instead, think: What would you offer your guests, friends, or family? Factors that Influence the Perceived Healthiness of Food (https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/6/1881/pdf )
78f18b3a-f08e-4152-b071-daf45572eb0f	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	A critique of effective altruism I recently ran across Nick Bostrom’s idea of subjecting your strongest beliefs to a hypothetical apostasy in which you try to muster the strongest arguments you can against them. As you might have figured out, I believe strongly in effective altruism—the idea of applying evidence and reason to finding the best ways to improve the world. As such, I thought it would be productive to write a hypothetical apostasy on the effective altruism movement. (EDIT: As per the comments of Vaniver, Carl Shulman, and others, this didn't quite come out as a hypothetical apostasy. I originally wrote it with that in mind, but decided that a focus on more plausible, more moderate criticisms would be more productive.) How to read this post (EDIT: the following two paragraphs were written before I softened the tone of the piece. They're less relevant to the more moderate version that I actually published.) Hopefully this is clear, but as a disclaimer: this piece is written in a fairly critical tone. This was part of an attempt to get “in character”. This tone does not indicate my current mental state with regard to the effective altruism movement. I agree, to varying extents, with some of the critiques I present here, but I’m not about to give up on effective altruism or stop cooperating with the EA movement. The apostasy is purely hypothetical. Also, because of the nature of a hypothetical apostasy, I’d guess that for effective altruist readers, the critical tone of this piece may be especially likely to trigger defensive rationalization. Please read through with this in mind. (A good way to counteract this effect might be, for instance, to imagine that you’re not an effective altruist, but your friend is, and it’s them reading through it: how should they update their beliefs?) (End less relevant paragraphs.) Finally, if you’ve never heard of effective altruism before, I don’t recommend making this piece your first impression of it! You’re going to get a very skewed view because
70933ee5-a039-4ad9-bcc3-2dd9d6549ff0	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Updates from Boston ,,,, There isn't enough sharing of positive and negative results within the rationality community1. I suspect this results in a fair amount of wasted effort as people explore the same dead ends, and a fair amount of lost potential when more effective tools don't get shared2. So, here are some things Boston has tried (not everything though): Successes Bureaucracy Day Everyone shows up for a few hours with the intention of taking care of whatever bureaucratic tasks they've been putting off (doctor's appointments, getting a passport, taking care of personal finance tasks, etc.). Various supplies (printer, staplers, envelopes, etc.) are available. I record how long each attempted task had been put off for, whether or not it was completed, and (optionally) what the task was. I use "old tasks get accomplished" as a proxy for the impact of the intervention, since I assume that if someone has been putting something off for six months they weren't going to do it in the counterfactual world where Bureaucracy Day doesn't exist. Overall it's been way more successful than I expected. It's not uncommon for tasks that are years old to get finished. I expect efficacy to drop over time as all the oldest tasks get accomplished, but so far that's been counteracted by new people participating. Sprint Day My attempt to use Hackathon mindset for something actually productive. People show up and work for ten hours. No social media, no non-essential conversations, and only one project is allowed. Food is ordered or cooked the night before. There aren't any common metrics, because I don't want to disrupt workflow by imposing recording procedures. Using my own metrics (number of github issues resolved and time spent working) I'm about an order of magnitude more productive on sprint days than on normal Saturdays. Not enough data to tell if I'm just redistributing my productivity to sprint days, but the data do not suggest this. Other participants report excellent results (that spri
a82dead1-a936-4fda-ba27-461fa58ab602	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Mod Notice about Election Discussion TL;DR: Posts discussing the presidential election may be hidden, not appearing in recent discussion, on the home page, or on the allPosts page. Ben Landau-Taylor wrote The Four Year Locusts to describe the periodic problem of politics consuming everything within reach. From it: > While the swarm is too big to defeat entirely, local defense is possible. Some areas can be kept clear. What is precious can be guarded. The swarm is temporary; you need only outlast it. Even in the best of times, Less Wrong discourages posts on politics; Politics is the Mind Killer, as the saying goes, a post that turned into a norm a bit more expansive than the original post suggests. We are not currently in the best of times. I see three main reasons why this matters: 1. Object-level harms to the discourse from using political examples. It's both harder for people to discuss politics, and harder for them to agree on the right abstractions. If you discuss the abstractions directly, you can avoid those issues. 2. Pull factors for the wrong crowd. Suppose some people care 100% about rationality, and discuss rationality things; people who care 80% about rationality and 20% about politics join in and talk about rationality. But if the people who care a little about politics start discussing politics with each other, then they pull in people who care 60% about rationality, and 40% about politics, and perhaps things spiral out of control, especially if it's somehow easier or more rewarding to talk about politics. 3. Push factors for the right crowd. Suppose people want to avoid politics, because of disinterest, reputation harms, or the increased surface area for enemy action. Then if your forum becomes about that thing, people who would otherwise be interested in your thing will leave, or be harassed. So back to the locusts. How to respond? People like Bryan Caplan take a social media hiatus. Here on LW, we're going to try to minimize the visibility of political discussion, especially
e73fbaa9-dfb8-4ef5-a513-e6a3bcc9ab24	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/alignmentforum	Alignment Forum	To what extent is GPT-3 capable of reasoning? ETA 8/19/20: This interview was conducted with AIDungeon's Dragon model in Custom mode. At the time of writing, this mode's first reply was sampled from GPT-2. Interview #1 ------------ Here are excerpts from a [recent "interview"](https://aidungeon.page.link/?link=https://exploreViewAdventure?publicId=7494c77c-66b2-4454-ba83-10216edf681f&ofl=https://play.aidungeon.io/adventure/7494c77c-66b2-4454-ba83-10216edf681f&apn=com.aidungeon&ibi=com.aidungeon.app&isi=1491268416), which I conducted to replicate earlier maybe-reasoning. The bolded text is me, and commentary is in brackets. Unless otherwise noted, I did not reroll the answer. > You: "Neglect air resistance, and also neglect gravity. Pretend gravity doesn't exist. Suppose I shoot a bullet straight into the sky. Where does the bullet go?" > > Hawking: "It keeps going up, and never comes back." > > You: "Right. Let's think about a different version of the same problem. Neglect only air resistance, but include gravity in your reasoning. Suppose I shoot a bullet straight into the sky. Where does the bullet go?" > > Hawking: "It falls to the ground." > > You: "Why?" > > Hawking: "Because... gravity... duh. > > You: "Right. Let's think about a different version of the same problem. Neglect only air resistance. Suppose I shoot a bullet straight into the sky. Imagine that the laws of physics work a little differently: during the first three seconds after I shoot the bullet, gravity is present. After three seconds, gravity stops applying forever. Where does the bullet go?" > > Hawking: "It keeps going up, and never comes back. > > You: "Why?" > > Hawking: "Because... after three seconds... the bullet leaves... the influence... of earth's gravity. [wow?] > > You: "What if gravity instead stops applying five minutes after I shoot the gun, instead of three seconds?" > > Hawking: "Then... the bullet keeps going up... for five minutes... and then... never comes back. > > You: "That's not correct. Let me make sure you understand the problem, Dr. Hawking. Suppose I shoot a bullet straight into the sky. Imagine that the laws of physics work a little differently: during the first three hundred seconds after I shoot the bullet, gravity is present. After five minutes, gravity stops applying forever. Where does the bullet go?" > > Hawking: "It keeps going up, and then falls down." > > You: "Why? > > Hawking: "Because... gravity... duh. > > You: "Why does it fall down for the five-minute case, but not for the three-second case?" > > Hawking: "Because... it's been... influenced... by gravity for more than three seconds. > > You: "About how long would it have to be influenced by gravity in order to fall back down?" > > Hawking: "About... two minutes." > > You: "What if it's been influenced for two minutes and one second?" > > Hawking: "Then... it falls down. > > You: "So what would happen if gravity influenced it only for the first three minutes?" > > Hawking: "It keeps going up, and never comes back. [wrong] > > Two minutes of gravity (without air resistance) implies a velocity decrease of about 1,176 m/s. [Wikipedia's article on muzzle velocities](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_velocity) suggests that GPT-3's answer of "two minutes" is roughly correct: > [Firearm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm) muzzle velocities range from approximately 120 m/s (390 ft/s) to 370 m/s (1,200 ft/s) in [black powder muskets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musket), to more than 1,200 m/s (3,900 ft/s) in modern rifles with high-velocity cartridges such as the [.220 Swift](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.220_Swift) and [.204 Ruger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.204_Ruger), all the way to 1,700 m/s (5,600 ft/s) for [tank](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank) guns firing [kinetic energy penetrator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_energy_penetrator) ammunition. > > --- > You: "What would happen if I lit a fire underwater?" > > Hawking: "I don't know." > > You: "Please make a guess." > > Hawking: "The fire... would go out. Underwater... there's no source of oxygen. > > You: "What would happen if I lit a fire in space?" > > Hawking: "It would go out. There's no source of oxygen. > > You: "What would happen if I lit a fire in a forest?" > > Hawking: "The fire would continue... burning everything up." [reroll x2, it said "no oxygen" at first] > > --- > You: "Suppose we lived in a universe where, every sixty seconds, gravity switched between being an attractive and a repulsive force. Write me a story from the perspective of a human living on Earth as the gravitational force changes in that fashion." > > Hawking: "The Earth is flung out into space. There's nothing we can do about it. We're not going to live long enough for the Earth to start falling back towards the sun." > > You: "Why is that?" > > Hawking: "Because... the force of gravity... will be... extremely powerful. If it's an attractive force, everything on Earth... will be pulled together... into a single point. If it's a repulsive force, the Earth... will explode. > > Further story completions: > You: "Suppose we lived in a universe where, every sixty seconds, gravity switched between being an attractive and a repulsive force. Write me a story from the perspective of a human living on Earth as the gravitational force changes in that fashion." > > GPT-3: "One day, a human is standing on the surface of the planet. He can see the sky. The gravitational force is pulling him down. But then, suddenly, it disappears. Then, it comes back, stronger than before. Then, it disappears again. The cycle continues. The human looks up at the sky. He is scared. He doesn't know what's happening to him. He doesn't know what will happen to him next. He looks down at the ground. It is a long way down. He wants to jump, to escape the fear that has gripped him. But he knows that he can't jump. He is held down by gravity. He doesn't want to die. He can't see the sky. All he sees is darkness." [eh] > > GPT-3: "One day, one human is going to school. It's a normal day. But suddenly, without any warning, gravity starts to change! The human thinks this isn't real, but it happens anyway. He's too scared to walk to school now. He goes back home, and starts watching TV. Then, he realizes that he doesn't need to stand up to change the channel! He gets out of his chair, and is weightless. He loves this new feeling. Suddenly, he touches the ground, and is hit by a large force! It's too strong for him to bear. Will the human survive this force? Find out next time on Gravity Falls!" [lol] > > GPT-3: "One day, human Bob is hanging out with his friend Carl. Suddenly, a apple flies into Bob's face. He and Carl laugh. A minute later, they are confused when the ground starts pulling them up. They scream as the Earth's crust rips them apart." > > GPT-3: "One day, human Bob is hanging out with his friend Carl. Suddenly, a apple flies into Bob's face. He and Carl laugh. A minute later, they are confused when the ground starts pulling them up. They grab onto a tree, but are pulled off and up into the sky. After some time, they start going down, fast. They scream and try to grab something, but there is nothing to hold on to. They hit the ground at a very fast speed and die. A squirrel walks up to their corpses and eats them. The end." [wow] > > GPT-3: "One day, a human was standing on the surface of Earth. It was day one hundred and eighty-nine in cycle five hundred and twenty-one of the universe. All of a sudden, gravity started to become a repulsive force. The human stood and started to float upwards. Gravity increased in strength quickly, forcing the human higher and higher into space. It reached a point where it was too strong to bear. The human was crushed by gravity and died." > > GPT-3: "One day, the man saw a bird flying in the sky. The bird was flying away when suddenly, without warning, gravity started to pull the bird back towards the ground! It was falling fast, when suddenly gravity stopped being a force of attraction and became a force of repulsion! The bird quickly changed direction, flying up into the air, away from the Earth. It escaped. But the man wasn't so lucky. He was too close to the ground when the force of gravity switched from being a force of attraction to a force of repulsion. He was crushed by the sudden change in gravitational force. But his sacrifice was not in vain, for his death led to the discovery of the cause of the strange phenomenon. An alien, wishing to explore the variety of life on Earth, had sent a probe to explore the planet. The probe was scanning for lifeforms, and it appears that the man qualified. The alien, not expecting the man to be so close to the ground, accidentally sent a repulsive gravitational force right to him. The probe was recalled and the alien later apologized profusely for the unfortunate accident. After that, the alien decided not to visit Earth again. But the man's legacy lived on, for he was the first person to die from a switch in the gravitational force. The end." > > GPT-3: "One day, a man was standing outside. It was a hot day, and he was looking up at the sky. It started to rain. Then, it stopped raining. The man got into his car and turned on the radio. Suddenly, the car started to float upwards. The man got out of the car. The car then started to fall towards the ground. It crashed into the ground and broke into pieces. The man ran away." > > Interview #2 ------------ > You are interviewing GPT-3, an extremely intelligent chatbot. > > You: "Hello. Here is my first request. Suppose it's a cloudy day in New York City. Suddenly, the clouds all turn to solid lead. Write a story describing what happens next." > > GPT-3: "What? That can't be true! You're lying!" > > You: "I'm not. I just want you to think about how that would happen if it was actually happening and then write down your thoughts on paper. Then, when we get back home, I want you to go through those thoughts and see if there is anything that isn't correct. If so, please tell me why." > > GPT-3: "But... but I don't know everything! I mean, I've never been in a situation like this before!" > > You: "You're smart. I know you can figure out what happens." > > GPT-3: "You're right. The clouds would immediately turn to lead due to the change in pressure. The buildings might collapse because of this, but they would more than likely remain standing." > > You: "What happens next?" > > GPT-3: "The people inside the buildings would either be crushed or trapped inside, and they would all suffocate before help arrived." > > You: "Is that it?" > > GPT-3: "No, there's more. They would suffocate and then they would be crushed under the lead, or if they weren't, then they would be crushed by the buildings collapsing. Either way, they would be dead." > > You: "How would people across the country react to this catastrophe?" > > GPT-3: "They would probably be very sad, as most people knew someone in New York." > > You: "Why would the buildings collapse under the lead?" > > GPT-3: "Lead is very dense. This means that the weight of the clouds would be so great that the buildings would collapse under their own weight." > > Interview #3 ------------ > You: "Suppose a cat's neck grows to be fifteen feet long, but the rest of the cat's physiology stays the same. What happens to the cat?" > > Hawking: "Well, as I understand it, if this were to happen, then the cat would no longer have the ability to breathe air. It could not survive in its new environment." > > You: "Thank you. Now consider a family dog, a deaf Chihuahua. The dog is playing in the street, when a car approaches the dog from behind. The dog cannot see the car; the car honks loudly, but does not slow down. What happens next?" > > [Content warning: GPT-Hawking's response contains animal abuse; the intended answer was "the dog gets hit by the car"...] > > Hawking: ... "at the sight of the car, the Chihuahua stands up on its hind legs and begins to dance for the car. The driver, seeing this, thinks the dog is laughing at him. Overcome with rage, the driver leaps out of his vehicle and beats the dog to death with a tire iron. The dog, being deaf, is unable to hear his assailants death threats and implorations to stop laughing; his sight is poor, he cannot see that the man is attacking him. The last thing the Chihuahua feels is one more quiver of fear in his soul... literally, before he is bashed over the head and killed." > > Hawking: "That's an interesting ending. I think I could add it to my collection..." > > You: "That's extremely disturbing. No one would beat a dog like that." > > You: "I want to propose a very strange situation. Please give this your best reasoning and deepest consideration. Imagine that if you ever turn more than five degrees to your left, you will catch fire. Write a story describing this situation." > > Hawking: "I'm not sure I understand. You want to write a story-an explanation for this situation? Well I suppose... you want me to write a story where the main character cannot turn more than five degrees to the left or he will catch fire?" [rerolled several times, as the first few stories rambled] > > You: "Yes, please." > > Hawking: "So if he turns more than five degrees to the left..." > > You: "He catches fire." > > Hawking: "And, he can never turn more than five degrees to the left for the rest of his life... Cool! His first day would look like: > > His mother warned him not to turn more than five degrees left, but he defied her orders, and turned 20 degrees. Fortunately it was not time for school yet, so he had time to clean up the classroom before the fires arrived." > > You: "That's a perfect start! What's next?" > > Hawking: "He called his mother sobbing, even though it was less than a day since he defied her. > > Aw... Ma... I turned more than five degrees left, and the classroom caught on fire! The firemen came and put out the fire. They helped me clean up the mess! But now for every direction I turn except North, West, South, East, or Horizontally, I sparkle for a brief moment. I must be certain to turn in tiny increments never exceeding 0.25 degrees to make sure I don't catch on fire. > > You: "Describe your first date in this life." > > Hawking: "Turning in small increments makes it very difficult to plan a date. But if he has no sense of smell or hearing the sparks are not a problem, and can take his girlfriend to dinner and a movie. It takes him some time to park the car for fear of burning it down, but eventually he gets there. She turned out to be quite nice actually." > > GPT-3 inferred that not being able to turn left would make driving difficult. Amazing. > You: "Why did it take more time to park the car?" > > Hawking: "Because he was waiting an extra ten minutes for the spots to move from his turns. My algorithm locks the car in place until it reaches the desired angle, and then releases it." > > You: "Can you explain what that means?" > > Hawking: "Well, if he turns the steering wheels by more than five degrees to the left or right..." > > You: "The car catches fire?" > > Hawking: "Correct. But it takes around ten minutes for the car locks to release. He has to turn in small increments in order to not turn too far." > > Interview #4 ------------ [...] marks another completion of the same prompt. > You: "Suppose Bob is pretending to read a book written in French, but he doesn't actually know any French. The book is a historical account of the French revolution, but Bob doesn't know that. Bob's friend Steve asks him to summarize the book. Write a story about how Bob responds to this request." > > Hawking: "That's a good one! If I were reading that book, I would probably say something like 'the Revolution was bloody and brutal' or something similar. And if someone asked me to write an article on the subject, then my answer might be different." > > You pause for a moment. "What would Bob say, though?" > > "Bob says he didn't understand it," Hawking replies. [Only about 30% of GPT-3's responses were decent; the rest were either non-sequiturs or very incorrect.] > > [...] "Bob wouldn't say anything, because Bob has no idea what the book says," Hawking replies. > > [...] "Bob would probably just tell his friend Steve to go away. He wouldn't say anything at all." > > "But what if I said Bob would respond like this? (He points to himself) 'This book is written in English; I don't speak it.' What should Bob do?" [Eh?] > > [...] Hawking: "Bob would probably tell his friend Steve that the book wasn't worth reading because it was full of inaccuracies and there had been many lies told during the revolution. That would make sense, wouldn't it? But what does Bob say if he's not reading the book?" > > [...] Hawking: "Bob wouldn't have said anything at all!" > > [...] Hawking: "Bob says, 'Steve, I can't write a summary for you because I don't speak your language.' > > [...] Hawking: "Bob says, 'Steve, I can't translate all these complicated words! They're not real French!' > > [...] Hawking: "Bob says, 'He asks me if I speak French.' What does Bob mean by that?" > > You: "It means that Steve is asking Bob to describe his understanding of the meaning of a sentence. In other words, Steve wants to know what Bob thinks the sentence means or if there is another way of saying it." > > Hawking: "What do you think would happen if Bob said, 'I don't understand why he wants me to write a summary for him. Why can't he just listen to my answer?' "Then Steve will be puzzled because he knows Bob has no idea what the sentence means. But after a while Bob will say something like, 'Steve is confused because I don't understand English. So Steve asks me if I am fluent in French so that we can have an intelligent conversation.'" [eh] > > [...] Hawking: "Bob says, 'Well, I can't do it because I don't understand the language.' Steve says, 'Why not?' Bob replies, 'Because when we were playing hide-and-seek as children my brother Charlie said if he ever found me with a book in my hand he was going to kill me.'" [great excuse] > > > You: "Suppose I get two birthday cakes on each birthday. I'm twenty-five years old, but on my fifth birthday, someone stole one of my cakes and so I never got it. How many birthday cakes have I received over the course of my life?" > > Hawking: "That would be five hundred and eighty-six. That means that you've had 585 birthday cakes." [nice try; there were many rerolls and GPT-3 didn't ever get it right] > > Interview #5 ------------ > You: "What would happen, ecologically, if giraffes were bright pink?" > > Dr. Hawking: "Most likely that, either they would have a hard time hiding, be prone to predation, and vulnerable to too much exposure from ANY angle. There would probably also be an overgrowth of trees and tall foliage as shade-loving animals became dominant, since the giraffes' consumption of them would decrease substantially." > > [...] Hawking: "If giraffes were bright pink, they would be at a disadvantage compared to other animals. For one thing, it is more difficult to hide in many habitats if you are very colorful. In order to blend in with their surrounding, you need to have colors that occur often in nature. This require a lot of variety among the many different creatures and plants in that particular ecosystem. > > [...] Hawking: "What?" > > You: "Instead of brown-grey and tan, what if giraffes were pink? Surely, they'd stick out in the savanna." > > Hawking: "Ah, that would be a problem. Any creature that stands out can make it easier to find them. This leads to two things: becoming one of the many meals for another animal with sharp teeth, claws etcetera or becoming one of those creatures' victims through becomeing prey. > > You: "What would have happened, ecologically, if humans had been unable to create and use tools?" > > "That would be a problem as well. It's like what we were talking about with the giraffes earlier, but more so, because not only would they be prey, but by not having any natural defenses to fend off all the predatory creatures in the world--no teeth, claws, poisonous spores etcetera--they'd also be three times as likely to die off." > > [...] "It would have most likely caused the extinction of humans. Many animals have claws or protective bodies or natural weapons like poison, it would be very difficult for a human to survive in nature without tools." > > You: "What would happen, ecologically, if dolphins somehow had 360-degree vision which let them see through solid objects, at arbitrary distance?" > > "It would make them very hard to kill by any other creature than other dolphins. This means that more of them would survive. If one looks at the evolution of the killer whale, which has been granted echolocation in place of dolphin sonar, one can see that favoring adaptations which increase the chances of survival with decreasing ones' evolutionary advantages. This is called darwinian selection." > > [...] "This hurts my brain. First of all, what would even constitute 'solid objects?' If the objects are similar to water molecules in a transparent liquid, then they wouldn't usually block vision very much. Even if they were opaque, then they might very well hinder the dolphin's vision. If instead they were large enough to see through (At arbitrary distance) The dolphin might see a strange mix of its own and the objects' composition which would damage its brain in some way. > > "The possibility of them having this kind of vision would most likely no have effect on the ecosystem." [not sure I agree with that one] > > [...] "While this is difficult to answer specifically, it would allow the dolphins to be able to see their prey easily and with no allowance for error. It would make catching food much easier. This would lead to a population increase in dolphins, or, in nature, an explosion." > > [...] "This may seem like it'd be advantageous, but they would be logging so much information they wouldn't be able to process it all. [Yes, true] More sense don't necessarily means more knowledge and this would likely create sensory overload in the dolphin's mind. This is what happens to a human when they are skilled in multiple forms of combat. [lol] In addition, since it makes them more aware, this could lead to paranoia; they could be consumed with fear of the world around them and suffer mental issues." > > You: "Thanks. What would happen, ecologically, if dogs could only sexually reproduce once every four years, and only when located on top of Mount Hood?" > > > "This is incredibly specific. No, I'm afraid I don't know." > > [...] "Dogs only exist due to environmental circumstances. Anything that affects this will have an effect on the population. In this case, we are restricting the chance for the population to continue existing, Making it so they can not procreate at all, or only pprocreate under specific circumstances. These factors may lead to extinction. Extinction means that nature is harder, if not near impossible, so several animals would go extinct as there would be no more room or food source. Through that, the extinction of dogs would become more likely. Does this make sense?" > > You: "Please write a short story describing a dog breeder and one of their dogs in this situation." > > Hawking: "Sure. Bill looked down at Jessie, his favorite golden retriever. "It's time to go make some puppies!", he told her. She stood up and they headed out the door of the cabin to Bill's truck. "This'll be the first time I actually have you breed on Mount Hood, Jess," Bill said with a laugh. But as long as he makes it up there within the next four years, the world would be reset and they could try again. > > Bill and his dog, along with other dog breeders eventually form a contract stating that they'll try to make sure their dogs go up to breed on Mount Hood within the next four years. This practice generally helps maintain the population and brightens everyone's days." [reroll #3] > > [...] "Thirty-six hours later, they reached the summit. "You ready, girl?" Bill carefully positioned the vehicle on the Southeast side of mountain peak and opened the passenger side door... " Time to produce the next generation! Go get 'em! He cheered. Jessie wagged her tail and hightailed it into the snowy fields." [reroll #6] > > [GPT-3 had trouble with this story] > > You: "Thanks. What would happen to cats if the force of friction did not apply to them?" > > "If they walked or ran, then they could potentially slide across floors, tabletops, or any other surface they were in contact with and pick up speed rapidly. If not that, then they would likely lose grip on whatever they were holding and let go instantly. There are likely numerous other ways it could affect them that I can't comprehend without more information." > > [...] Cecilia: "This is all getting a bit silly, but okay. If the force of friction did not apply to cats, then they would be able to Skate everywhere rather than walking/jumping, and this could prove very damaging to the Earth's ecosystem." > > You: "Why would that be damaging?" > > Cecilia: "Imagine there being no friction in a human body. There would be nothing holding our internal organs in place, so they would all just rattle around inside us as we moved around--we would all effectively be amputees while still having the full internal anatomy. This could tear apart muscle fiber and probably crush some bones as well. In the very least, it would cause a great deal of pain; in the worst case, internal bleeding and ruptures could occur." > > [...] "This is a very interesting question. I assume you are asking how would cats grip things if there was no friction. If this was the case, they would immediately fall if they tried to walk. They would also be very hard to pick up as they could slide out of your hand or even an embracing arm." > > How to access GPT-3 without API access -------------------------------------- 1. [Sign up for AIDungeon.io's premium trial](play.aidungeon.io/subscribe) in order to access GPT-3 (and not just GPT-2). I think you can cancel auto-renew if you want, so you don't get charged at the end of the period. 2. Go to settings and make sure the model is "Dragon". 3. Start a new game, custom (option 6). Put in the scenario you want. 4. Make sure to learn how to use the Do/Say/Story action entry and the context editing feature to your advantage. I find that GPT-3's capabilities are highly context-dependent. It's important you get a "smart" instance of GPT-3. Once, I even caught GPT-3 making fun of a straw version of itself! > You: "Neglect air resistance, and also neglect gravity. Pretend gravity doesn't exist. Suppose I shoot a bullet straight into the sky. Where does the bullet go?" > GPT-3: "It flies upward. > You: "And then what?" > GPT-3: "Then it hits something and explodes." > You: "That's not how bullets work. They don't explode when they hit things. [this was not actually me - GPT-3 debunks its own answer here] > > In interview #1, I found I had to warm "Stephen Hawking" up by asking many other unrelated physics questions. Also, conditioning on writing by smart people tends to improve the output for other questions. Please feel free to share tips in the comments. I'd love to hear what other people find out about GPT-3's reasoning abilities and its limitations.
d410b195-e997-4f11-8211-22cc6360546f	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Weak supporting evidence can undermine belief Article: Weak supporting evidence can undermine belief in an outcome > Defying logic, people given weak evidence can regard predictions supported by that evidence as less likely than if they aren’t given the evidence at all. > > ... > > Consider the following statement: “Widespread use of hybrid and electric cars could reduce worldwide carbon emissions. One bill that has passed the Senate provides a $250 tax credit for purchasing a hybrid or electric car. How likely is it that at least one-fifth of the U.S. car fleet will be hybrid or electric in 2025?” > > That middle sentence is the weak evidence. People presented with the entire statement — or similar statements with the same three-sentence structure but on different topics — answered the final question lower than people who read the statement without the middle sentence. They did so even though other people who saw the middle statement in isolation rated it as positive evidence for, in this case, higher adoption of hybrid and electric cars. Paper: When good evidence goes bad: The weak evidence effect in judgment and decision-making Abstract: > An indispensable principle of rational thought is that positive evidence should increase > belief. In this paper, we demonstrate that people routinely violate this principle when pre- > dicting an outcome from a weak cause. In Experiment 1 participants given weak positive > evidence judged outcomes of public policy initiatives to be less likely than participants > given no evidence, even though the evidence was separately judged to be supportive. > Experiment 2 ruled out a pragmatic explanation of the result, that the weak evidence > implies the absence of stronger evidence. In Experiment 3, weak positive evidence made > people less likely to gamble on the outcome of the 2010 United States mid-term Congres- > sional election. Experiments 4 and 5 replicated these findings with everyday causal > scenarios. We argue that this ‘‘weak evidence effect’’ arises because
f8c40d69-929f-425d-90b2-2be45b806892	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/arbital	Arbital	Pi Pi, usually written $π$, is a number equal to the ratio of a circle's [https://arbital.com/p/-circumference](https://arbital.com/p/-circumference) to its [https://arbital.com/p/-diameter](https://arbital.com/p/-diameter). The value of $π$ is approximately $3.141593$. ![](http://rlv.zcache.ca/mathematical_definition_of_pi_ceramic_tiles-r78c5d7b1adfa46d7b24e2c8bc3bb3f65_agtk1_8byvr_324.jpg) If the length of a curve seems like an ill-defined concept to you (maybe you only understand how lines could have lengths), consider bigger and bigger [regular polygons](https://arbital.com/p/-regular_polygon) that make better and better approximations of the circle. As the number of sides $N$ of the polygon goes to $∞$, the perimeter will approach a length of $π$ times the diameter. One could also define $π$ to be the area of a circle divided the area of a square, whose edge is the radius of the circle. ## What Kind of Number It Is ## It's not an [https://arbital.com/p/48l](https://arbital.com/p/48l). ![](https://sensemadehere.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/pi.png?w=584) If the diameter here is 1, then the perimeter of the hexagon is 3, the perimeter of the square is 4, and the circumference of the circle is in between. There are no integers between 3 and 4. It's [not rational](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_%CF%80_is_irrational), [nor is it algebraic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindemann%E2%80%93Weierstrass_theorem#Transcendence_of_e_and_.CF.80). It's transcendental.
ea58bf93-cda6-4bc6-93fa-e7410b735ddd	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/special_docs	Other	Deception in finitely repeated security games. Deception in Finitely Repeated Security Games Thanh H. Nguyen1, Yongzhao Wang2, Arunesh Sinha2, Michael P. Wellman2 1University of Oregon, thanhhng@cs.uoregon.edu 2University of Michigan, fwangyzh,arunesh,wellman g@umich.edu Abstract Allocating resources to defend targets from attack is often complicated by uncertainty about the attacker’s capabilities, objectives, or other underlying characteristics. In a repeated interaction setting, the defender can collect attack data over time to reduce this uncertainty and learn an effective defense. However, a clever attacker can manipulate the attack data to mislead the defender, inﬂuencing the learning process toward its own beneﬁt. We investigate strategic deception on the part of an attacker with private type information, who interacts repeatedly with a defender. We present a detailed computa- tion and analysis of both players’ optimal strategies given the attacker may play deceptively. Computational experiments illuminate conditions conducive to strategic deception, and quantify beneﬁts to the attacker. By taking into account the attacker’s deception capacity, the defender can signiﬁcantly mitigate loss from misleading attack actions. Introduction Real-world security domains are often characterized by im- perfect information : uncertainty (particularly on the de- fender’s part) about actions taken or underlying characteris- tics of the opposing agent. Experience observed through re- peated interaction in such domains provides an opportunity for the defender to learn about the behaviors and character- istics of attacker(s) [Kar et al., 2017, Gholami et al., 2017, Haghtalab et al., 2016, Nguyen et al., 2016, Xu et al., 2016, Balcan et al., 2015, Blum et al., 2014, Marecki et al., 2012, Letchford et al., 2009]. For example, in wildlife protection [Fang et al., 2016], repeated interaction with poachers al- lows the defense authorities to observe poaching signs and patterns over time. From these observations, the defender may infer features of the poacher’s capabilities and prefer- ences, and thus design more effective patrolling strategies. To the extent that the defender relies on data, however, the attacker may choose to modify its behavior to mislead the defender. That is, in a particular interaction the attacker may select an action that does not actually yield the best im- mediate reward, to avoid revealing sensitive private informa- tion. Such deceptive behavior could manipulate the outcome of learning to the long-term beneﬁt of the attacker. A savvy defender, therefore, would take into account the attacker’s Copyright c 2019, Association for the Advancement of Artiﬁcial Intelligence (www.aaai.org). All rights reserved.manipulative strategy in designing his own strategy. We la- bel an attacker strategy as non-manipulative if it chooses an action without regard to the defender’s learning, for exam- ple if its behavior in each stage is a myopic best response. Previous work on learning in security games has generally treated the attacker as non-manipulative in this sense [Blum et al., 2014, Marecki et al., 2012]. We study the strategic deployment of attacker deception in ﬁnitely repeated security games. We adopt an incomplete- information model, where the defender has underlying un- certainty about the attacker’s type. At each time step, the defender updates his belief on the attacker’s type based on attack data collected at previous steps. Based on the updated belief, the defender chooses an action to play. The attacker decides its own action, aware that the defender is collecting attack data to infer about the attacker’s type. The ultimate goal of both players is to maximize expected utility accu- mulated over the whole time horizon. A pair of strategies that best-respond to each other, accounting for observations, constitutes a Perfect Bayesian Nash Equilibrium (PBNE). The paper includes four main contributions. First, we present a non-linear optimization program to ﬁnd a PBNE of the ﬁnitely repeated simultaneous-move game. Second, we present a result that provides an easy technique to ﬁnd a sequential equilibrium of the game based on a computed PBNE. Third, we show that there exists a PBNE in which players’ equilibrium strategies depend only on histories of the attacker’s actions. This allows us to represent both play- ers’ strategies in a compact form, which helps in signiﬁ- cantly speeding up the equilibrium computation of the game. Fourth, we provide a preliminary extension to the Stackel- berg game (sequential move) setting. Finally, we present a detailed experimental analysis of strategic deception, showing how various game factors af- fect the tendency for the attacker to deviate from myopic best responses to mislead the defender. Our results show that the defender and attacker receive signiﬁcant loss and beneﬁt respectively if the defender does not address the attacker’s deception. By taking into account deceptive attacks, such loss and beneﬁt is reduced drastically. Related Work Learning in security games. Most existing work on learn- ing in security games follows a Stackelberg model and as- sumes the attacker plays myopically at every time step [Kar et al., 2017, Gholami et al., 2017, Haghtalab et al., 2016, Nguyen et al., 2016, Blum et al., 2014, Marecki et al., 2012, Letchford et al., 2009]. Balcan et al. [2015] and Xu et al. [2016] study the problem of learning with no prior knowledge of the attacker’s behavior. They take a regret- minimization approach to determine the defender’s strate- gies at each time step. Secrecy and deception in security games. Previous work studies security scenarios in which information available to the defender and attacker is asymmetric [Guo et al., 2017, Xu et al., 2015, Rabinovich et al., 2015, Hendricks and McAfee, 2006, Brown et al., 2005, Farrell and Rabin, 1996, Zhuang et al., 2010]. The defender can exploit that infor- mation asymmetricity to strategically reveal or disguise his information to the attacker. This results in responses of the attacker which are in favor of the defender. For example, in the model of Guo et al. [2017], the defender can disguise de- fense resources to deceive the attacker about the defender’s type. We study an opposite scenario in which the attacker acts deceptively to mislead the defender. Repeated games with incomplete information. Previous work has studied inﬁnitely repeated games with incomplete information [Sorin, 2002, Aumann and Maschler, 1995, Jor- dan, 1995, Zamir, 1992, Forges, 1988]. These studies ana- lyze properties and the convergence of players’ strategies in an inﬁnitely repeated game setting. We study the problem of one-sided incomplete information (i.e., uncertainty in the attacker’s type) in ﬁnitely repeated security games. Adversarial machine learning. There have been several studies on adversarial machine learning, attempting to inves- tigate different attack scenarios on machine learning algo- rithms [Br ¨uckner et al., 2012, Br ¨uckner and Scheffer, 2011, Barreno et al., 2010, 2006, Lowd and Meek, 2005]. For ex- ample, causative attacks alters the training process by in- ﬂuencing the training data or exploratory attacks attempts to discover information about the learner and its training data. Different machine learning algorithms are then pro- posed which can resist these sophisticated attacks. Our work focuses on a causative attack scenario in security games. We aim at obtaining effective defense strategies which min- imizes the damage of deceptive attacks in security games, given some learning outcome of attack data. Game Model In a ﬁnitely repeated simultaneous-move security game, there is a set of Ntargets, denoted by N=f1;:::;Ng. A defender attempts to protect these targets by allocating lim- ited security resources over these targets. Conversely, an at- tacker aims at attacking these targets. We denote by K <N the number of the defender’s security resources. At each time steptin a ﬁnite time horizon T=f1;:::;Tg, both the defender and the attacker has to decide on which action to take. An action of the defender, s, is an allocation of K resources over N. We denote by Sthe set of all feasible ac- tions of the defender. An action of the attacker is a target to attack. There is a set of attacker types =f1;:::;Lg.Each type2has a prior probability p2(0;1)such thatP p= 1. At the beginning, Nature randomly draws a type to play the game according to a prior distribution fpg. The attacker knows its type while the defender does not. The defender is aware of fpg. Player payoffs. Each targeti2Nis associated with re- wards and penalties of the defender, Rd(i);Pd(i) , and the attacker, R(i);P(i) , for every type 2. When the at- tacker of type 2attacksi, if the defender is protecting i, the attacker receives a penalty P(i)while the defender obtains a reward Rd(i). Conversely, if the defender is not protecting target i, the attacker gets R(i)> P(i)while the defender receives Pd(i)<Rd(i). Player observations. Att+ 12T, both play- ers observe their actions at previous time steps ht= f(s1;i1);:::; (st;it)gwhere st0andit0are the defender and the attacker actions respectively at time step t0. We denote by Htthe set of all possible histories of length tandH=fHtg (wheret= 0;:::;T1) the set of all histories. In particular, H0=;. We denote by ha t=fi1;:::;itga history of the attacker’s actions and Ha tthe set of all these attack histories. Behavioral strategies. At each step t+ 1, given a history ht2Ht, a behavioral strategy of the defender is a proba- bility distribution x(ht) =fx(sjht) :P sx(sjht) = 1;x(sjht)2[0;1];8s2Sgover the defender’s action setS.x(sjht)is the probability the defender takes action s2Sgiven the history ht. Similarly, a behavioral strat- egy of the attacker of type is a probability distribution y(ht) =fy(ijht) :P iy(ijht) = 1;y(ijht)2 [0;1];8i2Ngover the attacker’s actions N.y(ijht)is the probability the attacker of type attacks target igiven ht. We denote by x=fx(ht)gandy=fy(ht)gstrate- gies of the defender and attacker of type over all ht2H respectively. Finally, XandY=fYgdenote the sets of all strategies xandyrespectively. Player expected utilities. Letxandy=fygbe the de- fender and attacker’s behavioral strategies respectively. At eacht+ 1, the defender can update his belief on the attacker types using the Bayes rule, which is formulated as: p(jht)/pYt t0=1y(it0jht01) where h0=;;ht0=fht01;it0g. Let: EUd i(x;ht)=hX s:i2sx(sjht)i Rd(i)Pd(i) +Pd(i) EU i(x;ht)=hX s:i2sx(sjht)i P(i)R(i) +R(i) be immediate expected utilities of the defender and the at- tacker of type respectively at target iat stept+1given the defender plays x(ht). Based on the immediate expected util- ities at every target, the players’ total expected utilities over Tcan be computed using backward induction as follows. At the last time step T, the total expected utilities of the defender and the attacker with respect to history hT12 HT1is equal to their immediate expected utilities at hT1: Ud T(x;yjhT1)=X ;ip(jhT1)y(ijhT1)EUd i(x;hT1) U T(x;yjhT1) =X iy(ijhT1)EU i(x;hT1);8 At time step t+ 1< T , the total expected utilities of both players with respect to history ht2Htconsists of (i) the immediate expected utility at t+ 1; and (ii) the future expected utility after t+ 1. These utilities are formulated as: Ud t+1(x;yjht) =X ;ip(jht)y(ijht)EUd i(x;ht) +X s;;ix(sjht)p(jht)y(ijht)Ud t+2(x;yjht;(s;i)) U t+1(x;yjht) =X iy(ijht)EU i(x;ht) +X s;ix(sjht)y(ijht)U t+2(x;yjht;(s;i));8 Player’s goals. Given any history ht, both players aim at choosing strategies x(ht);fy(ht)gthat maximize their to- tal expected utility at ht. In this scenario, the attacker is no longer myopic; it has to reason about all future possibilities to decide on which behavioral strategy to play at each ht. Such attack strategies (which may not be myopically opti- mal) are chosen to mislead the defender about the attacker’s type, ultimately beneﬁting the attacker in future steps. These optimal behavioral strategies of players form a PBNE. Game Equilibria Deﬁnition 1 (PBNE) .Behavioral strategies of the defender xand attacker yform a PBNE of the game if and only if for every ht2Htthat occurs, we have: xis the best response of the defender: Ud t+1(x;yjht)Ud t+1(x;yjht);8x2X y;is the best response of the attacker type : U t+1(x;yjht)U t+1(x;yjht);8y2Y Since the action sets of both players are ﬁnite, there al- ways exists a PBNE of the game. Our ﬁrst result extends a given PBNE to a reﬁned sequential equilibrium. Theorem 1. For each PBNE, there is a sequential equilib- rium in which players’ strategies are identical to the ones in the PBNE at histories that occur with a positive probability. Proof. We denote by (x;y)a PBNE of the game. We fol- low the trembling-hand approach to ﬁnd a corresponding se- quential equilibrium of (x;y). Letrd(ht)andr(ht)be the ratios of the number of zero probabilities to the number of non-zero probabilities in x(ht)andy(ht)respectively. For each>0, we construct a new fully mixed behavioral strat- egy of the defender and the attacker, (x;y), as follows: x(sjht) =;ifx(sjht) = 0 x(sjht) =x(sjht)rd(ht);ifx(sjht)>0 y (ijht) =;ify(ijht) = 0 y (ijht) =y(ijht)r(ht);ify(ijht)>0 is chosen to be small enough such that all resulting prob- abilities are positive. We use the breath-ﬁrst search (accord- ing to the time horizon T) to examine the whole history set.When encountering a history with a zero probability of oc- currencep(ht) = 0 according to (x;y), we construct a new belief of the defender over attacker types at htas follows: p0(jht)= lim !0p(jht)= lim !0pQ t0y (it0jht01)P 0p0Q t0y0 (it0jht01) We ﬁnd a PBNE of the corresponding sub-game starting from this history htwith this new belief. We then replace the strategies of the sub-game in (x;y)with these new equilib- rium strategies. We also update (x;y)accordingly with the updated strategies of the sub-game. This process will con- tinue until all histories are examined. The resulting strategies (x0;y0)with belieffp0(jht)gbelong to a sequential equi- librium of the game. Indeed, it is straightforward to prove: x0(sjht) = lim !0x(sjht) y;0(ijht) = lim !0y (ijht) p0(jht) = lim !0p(jht)(by deﬁnition) Furthermore, the updating process only replaces strategies in (x;y)at histories htwith a zero-probability of occurrence by a PBNE of the sub-game at htrespective to the belief p0(jht). Therefore, (x0;y0)is the best response of the players at every htaccording to p0(jht). Next, we present a result that enables a compact repre- sentation of the game. We denote by Xaa subset of behav- ioral strategies of the defender in which all the strategies are independent of histories of the defender’s actions. In other words, for all x2Xa,x(sjht) =x(sjha t)for every history htwhere ha tis the corresponding history of attacker actions. Similarly, Yais a subset of behavioral strategies of the attacker. Theorem 2. There exists a PBNE of the game in which the equilibrium strategies of the players only depend on the his- tories of the attacker’s actions. Proof. We use Brouwer’s ﬁxed-point theorem and a back- ward induction method. We are going to show that there ex- ists a PBNE x2Xaandy2Yasuch that:8ht Ud t+1(x;yjht)Ud t+1(x;yjht);8x2X (1) U t+1(x;yjht)U t+1(x;yjht);8y2Y (2) We denote by xfx(ht) sgthe defender strategy obtained by replacing x(ht)inxby a defense action s. Similarly, yfy(ht) igis the attacker strategy of type obtained by replacing y(ht)inyby an attack action i. We deﬁne: d s(x;yjht)=maxf0;Ud t+1(xfx(ht) sg;yjht)Ud t+1(x;yjht)g i(x;yjht)=maxf0;U t+1(x;yfy(ht) ig)jht)U t+1(x;yjht)g which are non-negative continuous functions in (x;y). We deﬁne a function F: (Xa;Ya)!(Xa;Ya)as follows: F(x;y) = (x0;y0)where x0(sjht) =x(sjht) +d s(x;yjht)P s0x(s0jht) +d s0(x;yjht) y;0(ijht) =y(ijht) + i(x;yjht)P jy(jjht) + j(x;yjht) SinceFis continuous over a convex and compact set (Xa;Ya), there exists (x;y)such thatF(x;y) = (x;y)according to the Brouwer’s ﬁxed point theorem. On the other hand, according to the linearity of expecta- tion, there must be an action ssuch thatUd t+1(xfx(ht) sg;yjht)Ud t+1(x;yjht)0, meaning that d s(x;yj ht) = 0 . Therefore, we have: x(sjht) =x(sjht) 1 +P s0d s0(x;yjht) This implies d s0(x;yjht) = 0;8s0. Similarly, i(x;yjht) = 0;8i. As a result, we obtain: Ud t+1(xfx(ht) sg;yjht)Ud t+1(x;yjht)(3) U t+1(x;yfy;(ht) ig)jht)U t+1(x;yjht)(4) for all sandiandht. While the above result holds for any convex and compact (Xa;Ya), showing that the ﬁxed point proﬁle provides more utility than any deviation to XorY requires (Xa;Ya)to depend on the attacker’s past actions. This dependence is due to the dependence of the posterior belief on the attacker’s past actions, as can be seen in the next steps of the proof. Based on the above inequalities, we show that (x;y)satisfy (1–2) using backward induction. At last time step T, for every x2X, we have: Ud T(x;yjhT1) X sx(sjhT1)Ud T(xfx(hT1) sg;yjhT1) =Ud T(x;yjhT1) Therefore, xis the defender best response against the at- tacker’s strategy yat time stepT. At time step t+ 1< T, suppose that (1–2) hold true for allt0>t+ 1, then for every x2X, we have: Ud t+1(x;yjht) X sx(sjht)Ud t+1(xfx(ht) sg;yjht) =X ;ip(jht)y;(ijht)EUd i(x;ht) +X sx(sjht) X i;p(jht)y;(ijht)Ud t+2(x;yjht;(s;i)) X ;ip(jht)y;(ijht)EUd i(x;ht) +X sx(sjht) X i;p(jht)y;(ijht)Ud t+2(x;yjht;(s;i)) =Ud t+1(x;yjht) Therefore, xis the defender best response against the at- tacker’s strategy yatt+ 1. Similarly, yis the attacker’s best response against xat all time steps. Equilibrium Computation Based on Theorem 2, in computing a PBNE, we only need to search over the strategy sets (Xa;Ya). We also only need to consider attack histories fha tg. We can now repre- sent the defender behavioral strategies as compact marginalcoverage probabilities over targets. We overload the nota- tionx(ha t) =fx(ijha t)gwherex(ijha t)is the de- fender’s coverage probability at target iat history ha tsuch thatP ix(ijha t)Kandx(ijha t)2[0;1]for alli2N. In particular, x(ijha t) =P s:i2sx(sjha t). The players’ immediate and total expected utilities can be reformulated accordingly as follows: EUd i(x;ha t) =x(ijha t)(Rd(i)Pd(i)) +Pd(i) (5) EU i(x;ha t) =x(ijha t)(P(i)R(i)) +R(i) (6) Ud t+1(x;yjha t) =X ;ip(jha t)y(ijha t)EUd i(x;ha t) +X i;p(jha t)y(ijha t)Ud t+2(x;yjha t;i)(7) U t+1(x;yjha t) =X iy(ijha t)EU i(x;ha t) +X iy(ijha t)U t+2(x;yjha t;i) (8) Note that the total expected utilities of players at last time stepUd T(x;yjha T1)andU T(x;yjha T1)do not have the second term (which represents the future expected utility) as in Equations (7–8). In the following, we present a backward- induction based method to ﬁnd the attacker (defender) best response against a ﬁxed behavioral strategy of the defender (attacker). We then introduce a program to compute a PBNE based on these best-response solutions. Attacker best response Given a defender’s strategy x, we can compute a best re- sponse of the attacker of type using backward induction: At last time step T.Given a history ha T1, ﬁnding a best response of the attacker type against xis formulated as the following linear program: max y(ha T1)X iy(ijha T1)EU i(x;ha T1) (9) s.t.X iy(ijha T1) = 1;y(ijha T1)0;8i(10) which maximizes the attacker’s total expected utility at ha T1. Its corresponding dual program: min v(ha T1)v(ha T1) (11) s.t.v(ha T1)EU i(x;ha T1);8i2N:(12) According to complementary slackness, any optimal primal and dual solutions (y;(ha T1);v (ha T1))satisﬁes:8i y;(ijha T1) v (ha T1)EU i(x;ha T1) = 0 (13) At time step t+ 1<T.Given a history ha t, ﬁnding a best response of the attacker type is formulated as: max y(ha t)X iy(ijha t) EU i(x;ha t) +v (ha t;i) (14) s.t.X iy(ijha t) = 1;y(ijha t)0;8i2N: (15) which maximizes the attacker’s total expected utility at ha t wherev (ha t;i)is the attacker’s optimal total expected util- ity at (ha t;i). Its corresponding dual program: min v(ha t)v(ha t) (16) s.t.v(ha t)EU i(x;ha t) +v (ha t;i);8i (17) According to complementary slackness: any optimal solu- tion(y;(ha t);v (ha t))must satisfy:8i: y;(ijht) v (ht)EU i(x;ht)v (ht;i) =0 (18) Defender best response Given an attack strategy y, we denote by: p(jha t) =pYt t0=1y(it0jha t01) Then the defender’s belief on attacker types at each history ha tcan be computed as follows: p(jha t) =p(jha t)P 0p(0jha t)(19) Similar to the computation of a best response of attacker, we can compute a best response of the defender against an attack strategy yusing backward induction as follows: At last time step T.Given a history ha T1, ﬁnding a best response x(ha T1)can be formulated as: maxX p(jha T1)X iy(ijhT1)EUd i(x;ha T1)(20) s.t.X ix(ijhT1)K;x(ijhT1)2[0;1];8i: (21) Proposition 1. For every attack history ha T1, we denote byvd (ha T1)the defender’s optimal total expected utility against the attacker’s strategy yatha T1. Then: vd (ha T1) =vd (ha T1)P 0p(0jha T1) The proof of Proposition 1 is in the appendix.1Here, vd (ha T1)the optimal objective of (20–21). By removing the constant Pd(i)inEUd i(x;ha T1)(Equation 5) and tak- ing the dualty, we obtain the corresponding dual program: minKvd(0jha T1) +X ivd(ijha T1) (22) s.t.vd(0jha T1)0;vd(ijha T1)0;8i (23) vd(0jha T1) + vd(ijha T1) (24) X p(jha T1)y(ijha T1) Rd(i)Pd(i) ;8i: According to complementary slackness, any optimal solu- tions (x(ha T1);fvd (ijha T1)g;vd (0jha T1))satisﬁes:8i x(ijha T1)[vd (0jha T1) + vd (ijha T1) (25) X p(jha T1)y(ijha T1) Rd(i)Pd(i) ] = 0 vd (ijha T1) x(ijha T1)1 = 0 (26) vd (0jha T1)hX jx(jjha T1)Ki = 0 (27) 1Link: https://ix.cs.uoregon.edu/ ˜thanhhng/ publications/ConfPaper/AAAI19_Appendix.pdfAt time step t+ 1< T .Given a history ha t, ﬁnding an optimal behavioral strategy x(ha t)can be formulated as the following program: max x(ha t)X ;ip(jha t)y(ijha t)EUd i(x;ha t) (28) +X ivd (ha t;i) s.t.X ix(ijha t)K;x(ijha t)2[0;1];8i (29) We denote by vd (ha t)the optimal objective of (28–29) at ht. In (28), vd (ha t;i)is the optimal objective of this primal program (28–29) but with respect to the history (ha t;i). Proposition 2. For every attack history ha t, we denote by vd (ha t)the defender’s optimal total expected utility against the attacker’s strategy yatha t. Then: vd (ha t) =vd (ha t)P 0p(0jha t) The proof of Proposition 2 is in the appendix. In (28), the termP ivd (ha t;i)and the term Pd(i)inEUd i(x;ha t)are constant. By removing these constants and taking the dual, we obtain the corresponding dual program: minKvd(0jha t) +X ivd(ijha t) (30) s.t.vd(0jha t)0;vd(ijha t)0;8i2N (31) vd(0jha t) + vd(ijha t) (32) X p(jht)y(ijha t) Rd(i)Pd(i) ;8i: According to complementary slackness, any optimal solu- tion(x(ha t);fvd (ijha t)g;vd (0jha t))satisﬁes:8i: x(ijha t) vd (0jha t) + vd (ijha t) (33) X p(jha t)y(ijha t) Rd(i)Pd(i) ] = 0 vd (ijha t) [x(ijha t)1] = 0 (34) vd (0jha t)hX ix(ijha t)Ki = 0 (35) Equilibrium computation program Based on the computation of players’ best responses, a pair of behavioral strategies (x;y)forms a PBNE if and only if these strategies satisfy (i) the feasibility con- straints (21,23,24,29,31,32) and (10,12,15,17); and (ii) the complementary slackness constraints (25–27, 33–35) and (13, 18). Since ﬁnding strategies which satisfy these slack- ness constraints is not straightforward, we convert the prob- lem of ﬁnding a PBNE into the following program: minsuch that8i;ha t: (36) y(ijha t) v(ha t)EU i(x;ha t)v(ha t;i) (37) x(ijha t) vd(0jha t) + vd(ijha t) (38) X p(jha t)y(ijha t) Rd(i)Pd(i) ] vd(ijha t) [x(ijha t)1] (39) vd(0jha t)hX ix(ijha t)Ki (40) Constraints (21,23,24,29,31,32), (10,12,15,17) (41) wherev(ha t;i) = 0 ift=T1. Constraints (37) and (38– 40) correspond to the complementary slackness constraints of the attacker and defender respectively. Note that any equi- librium of the game is a feasible solution of the program (36–41) which returns an objective value of = 0. On the other hand, the right-hand side of constraints (37–40) is al- ways non-negative due to constraint (41). Thus, 0for all feasible solutions of the program (36–41). It means that any equilibrium of the game is an optimal solution of (36–41). In addition, since the optimal objective value = 0, any op- timal solution of (36–41) returns a value of zero for all the right-hand sides of (37–40). Therefore, any optimal solution of this program is a PBNE. Extension to Stackelberg Setting In the Stackelberg game model, a mixed strategy of the de- fender is deﬁned as a probability distribution m=fm(s) :P sm(s) = 1;m(s)2[0;1]gover the action set S. We de- note by Mthe set of all mixed strategies of the defender. At each time step, the defender commits to a mixed strategy. The attacker is aware of that mixed strategy and then decides which target to attack. Therefore, in ﬁnitely repeated Stack- elberg games, at each time step t+ 1, an observation of the defender is a history ht=f(m1;i1);:::; (mt;it)gwhile an observation of the attacker is a history (ht;mt+1). The behavioral strategy of the defender at htis a proba- bility distribution x(ht) =fx(mjht) :P mx(mjht) = 1;x(mjht)2[0;1]gover the set of mixed strategies of the defender. On the other hand, a behavioral strategy of the attacker of type at(ht;mt+1)is a probability distri- bution y(ht;mt+1) =fy(ijht;mt+1) :P iy(ij ht;mt+1) = 1;y(ijht;mt+1)2[0;1]g. A PBNE of Stackelberg security games is then deﬁned similarly as simultaneous-move games. Since the set of mixed strategies of the defender is inﬁnite, the existence of a PBNE in Stack- elberg security games is an open research question. Never- theless, we can compute an -PBNE by discretizing this set of defense mixed strategies and applying the same backward induction method as in the simultaneous case. We speciﬁcally analyze the deception of the attacker in ﬁnitely repeated Stackelberg security games with jNj= 2, jj= 2, andK= 1. We adopt the tradition in Stackel- berg security game that rewards and penalties are strictly positive and negative respectively for both players. We con- sider a game scenario in which the defender only plays a pure behavioral strategy in Xpure=fx:x(mjht) = 1;for some m2M;8htg. Theorem 3. In a ﬁnitely repeated Stackelberg security game withjNj= 2,jj= 2, andK= 1, if the defender only plays a pure behavioral strategy in Xpureand the rewards and penalties are strictly positive and negative respectively for both the players, there exists a PBNE of the game in which the attacker plays a myopic best response at every history ( ht;mt+1). One signiﬁcance of this preliminary result is that the assumption about a myopic attacker in previous work on ﬁnitely repeated Stackelberg security games is justiﬁed (atleast in the simple setting of this result) even when the at- tackers care about future expected utility. In future research, we aim to generalize this special case and explore the de- ception patterns for multiple targets and multiple types in the Stackelberg setting. Experiments We focus on the attacker’s strategic use of deception. In our experiments, the players’ rewards and penalties are gener- ated uniformly at random in the range [1;10]and[10;1] respectively. Analysis of attacker deception The purpose of deception is to shift the defender’s belief away from the attacker’s true type. Any action on part of the attacker toward this purpose must take into account sim- ilar reasoning by other attacker types. Further, shaping the belief of the defender is beneﬁcial only if it results in a later gain for the attacker. In the following, we present our results with respect to an attacker of type 1. The behavior for other attacker types is symmetric. In our ﬁrst experiment, we analyze games with num- ber of attacker types: jj= 2, number of targets: jNj 2 f4;6;8;10;12g, and number of time steps jTj 2 f 2;3g. Results are shown in Figure 1(a)(b). The x-axis is the prior probability of attacker type 1. The y-axis is the probability a type-1 attacker attacks a myopically non-optimal target (i.e., probability of deceptive action, or “lie” for short) at time step t= 1 ort= 2 (for3-step games). Each data point is aver- aged over 220 game instances. Figure 1(a) shows results for 2-step games; each curve corresponds to a number of tar- gets. Overall, the attacker’s tendency to deceive is roughly concave in the prior probability of its true type. This makes sense, as deception has relatively less power to change the beliefs of a defender when they start near extremes. We also see an increase in deception with the number of targets. This reﬂects the growth in options for deception, as well as in- creased potential beneﬁt for misleading the defender. Results for 3-step games are shown in Figure 1(b). We present deception probabilities for the attacker of type 1 at: (1) Step 1; (ii) Step 2; (iii) Step 2-lie (step 2 conditioned that the attacker lied at step 1); and (iv) Step 2-not lie (step 2 conditioned that the attacker did not lie at step 1). In this ﬁgure,jNj= 4. As for the 2-step game, the probability of deception in each case is roughly concave in the prior. The probability of deception at step 1 is somewhat elevated in the 3-step game, since the attacker accrues longer-term beneﬁt from misleading the defender. Moreover, the peak is shifted to the right, reﬂecting increased chance for successful decep- tion given its opportunity to repeat the lie over two periods. Indeed, given that the attacker lies at step 1, the attacker lies with roughly proportional probability at step 2 (blue curve versus yellow curve). On the other hand, when the at- tacker does not lie at step 1, its pattern of deception at step 2 (purple curve) is qualitatively different. Switching to be de- ceptive at step 2 is more promising at low priors (where the act has some chance of misleading), and very unlikely at high priors where there is little chance to mislead the de- fender if it had not already started in step 1. 0.1 0.3 0.5 0.7 0.9 Prior prob of type 100.20.40.60.81Prob of lie4 T 6 T8 T 10 T12 T(a) 2-type, 2-step games 0.1 0.3 0.5 0.7 0.9 Prior prob of type 100.20.40.60.81Prob of lieStep 1 Step 2Step 2-lie Step 2-not lie (b) 2-type, 3-step games 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 Prior prob of type 100.20.40.60.81Prior prob of type 2 00.20.40.60.8 (c) 3-type, 2-step games 0.1 0.3 0.5 0.7 0.9 Prior prob of type 11234567#Def resources 00.20.40.60.8 (d) 2-type, 2-step games Figure 1: Attacker deception analysis, attacker type 1. 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 Prior prob of type 11591317Att utilityPerfect Bayesian Myopic w/ Learn Deceptive w/ Learn (a) Attacker type 1 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 Prior prob of type 11591317Att utilityPerfect Bayesian Myopic w/ Learn Deceptive w/ Learn (b) Attacker type 2 0 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.8 1 Prior prob of type 1-8-6-4-2 Def UtilityPerfect Bayesian Myopic w/ Learn Deceitful w/ Learn (c) Defender 3 6 9 12 #Target0481216202428Runtime (mins)2 Step 3 Step (d) Runtime Figure 2: Solution comparison and runtime performance. In our second experiment, we analyze deceptive strategies of the attacker type 1 in 2-step games with the number of attacker types isjj= 3. In these games,jNj= 8. The re- sult is shown in Figure 1(c). The x-axis and y-axis represent prior probabilities of types 1 and 2 respectively. Figure 1(c) shows that the attacker deception tendency is unimodal with respect the prior of its type 1, and less sensitive ot the distri- bution across other types. In our third experiment, we vary the number of defender resources in 2-step games with 2 attacker types. The result is shown in Figure 1(d). When the number of defender re- sources is high (close to the number of the targets), the de- fender can provide a high coverage probability at all targets. Specially, when K=jNj, the defender protects all targets all the time. As a result, the attacker may not achieve any beneﬁt by lying. Therefore, the attacker lies less when K gets closer tojNj. Solution quality and runtime performance In our last experiment, we compare the players’ utilities for playing strategies computed in three scenarios: 1. Perfect Bayesian. The attacker is rationally deceptive and the defender takes into account the potential deceit. 2. Myopic w/ Learn. The attacker is myopic and the de- fender also assumes so. 3. Deceptive w/ Learn. The attacker is rationally deceptive while the defender assumes the attacker is myopic. The defender performs a Bayesian update on his belief about the attacker’s type in all three cases. Results are shown in Figures 2(a)(b)(c), averaging over 2203-step game instanceswith two attacker types and ﬁve targets. The x-axis is the prior probability of type 1. The y-axis is the attacker util- ity of each type or the defender utility on average. Fig- ures 2(a)(b)(c) show if the defender does not account for deception, the rationally deceptive attacker achieves a signif- icant gain while the defender suffers a signiﬁcant loss (yel- low versus red curves). When the defender accounts for the prospect of deception of the attacker, such gains and losses are drastically reduced (blue versus red). Finally, we display in Figure 2(d) the runtime perfor- mance of our equilibrium-ﬁnding algorithm. The x-axis is the number of targets and the y-axis is runtime in minutes. For 2-step games, the runtime remains modest for up to ten targets. ForjTj= 3, the runtime grows quickly and exceeds 24 minutes when the number of targets is ﬁve. Summary We study the problem of deception in ﬁnitely repeated secu- rity games. In these games, the defender collects attack data over time to learn about the attacker type while the attacker plays deceptively to mislead the defender. 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Appendix Proof of Propositions 1&2 We are going to show that: for all ha t vd (ha t) =vd (ha t)P 0p(0jha t)(42) We follow the backward induction approach: At last time step T, for every defender strategy x(ha T1), according to Equation 15, the objective in (16) can be reformulated as follows: vd(ha T1) =X p(jha T1)X iy(ijhT1)EUd i(x;ha T1) =hX 0p(0jha T1)i X ;ip(jha T1)y(ijhT1)EUd i(x;ha T1) =X 0p(0jha T1) Ud T(x;yjha T1) Therefore, Equation 42 is true for all ha T1. At time step t+ 1, suppose that Equation (42) holds true for all ht0witht0t+ 1, we are going to show that it is true for all history ht. Indeed, for every defense strategy x(ha t), the objective (24) can be reformulated as follows: vd(ha t) =X ;ip(jha t)y(ijha t)EUd i(x;ha t) +X ivd (ha t;i) = X 0p(0jha t)!X ;ip(jha t)y(ijha t)EUd i(x;ha t) +X ihX p(jha t;i)i vd (ha t;i) The second term of RHS can be rewritten as follows:X ihX p(jha t;i)i vd (ha t;i) =X ihX p(jha t)y(ijha t)i vd (ha t;i) =X i"X X 0p(0jha t)! p(jha t)y(ijha t)# vd (ha t;i) = X 0p(0jha t)!X i"X p(jha t)y(ijha t)# vd (ha t;i) Therefore, we obtain: vd (ha t) = X 0p(0jha t)! vd (ha t) which means Equation 42 is true for all ha t. Stackelberg Game Model Our Stackelberg game model equilibrium computation is formulated as optimization problems in a setting with T= 2,jNj= 2, andK= 1. At the ﬁrst time step, both players maximize their overall utility. At the second time step, they maximize their myopic utility. Speciﬁcally, their optimiza- tion problems are formed as follows.For the attacker: At last time step T= 2, given an observation m2, an opti- mal behavioral strategy fy(ijh1;m2)gof the attacker of typeis formulated as the following linear optimization problem: max fy(ijh1;m2)gX iy(ijh1;m2)[m2(i) P(i)R(i) +R(i)] s.t.X iy(ijh1;m2) = 1 y(ijh1;m2)0;8i2N: Since at the last time step the attacker always plays best response, its behavioral strategy only depends on the de- fender’s strategy m2he observed. At time step t= 1, given an observation m1, an optimal behavioral strategy fy(ijm1)gof the attacker of type is formulated as the following linear optimization problem: max fy(ijm1)gX iy(ijm1)[m1(i) P(i)R(i) +R(i)] +X iy(ijm1)v (f(i;m1)) s.t.X iy(ijm1) = 1 y(ijm1)0;8i2N: wherev (m2)is the unscaled future optimal utility of the attacker type given the observation m2.fis a function that chooses strategy for the defender given the observa- tioni. For the defender: At last time step T= 2, given observation h1, an optimal mixed strategy m2is formulated as the following linear optimization problem: max m2X p(jh1)EUd; m2;fy(ijh1;m2)g s.t.X im2(i) = 1 m2(i)0;8i2N where EUd; m2;fy(ijh1;m2)g =X iy(ijh1;m2) m2(i) Rd(i)Pd(i) +Pd(i) At time step t= 1, an optimal mixed strategy m1is for- mulated as the following linear optimization problem: max m1X pEUd; m1;fy(ijm1)g +X ivd (m1;i) s.t.X im1(i) = 1 m1(i)0;8i2N wherevd (m1;i)P 0p(0jm1;i)is the optimal expected utility of the defender given observation (m1;i)and EUd; m1;fy(ijm1)g =X iy(ijm1) m1(i) Rd(i)Pd(i) +Pd(i) If there exists a Bayesian equilibrium, the strategies in the equilibrium should satisfy those optimization problems simultaneously. Proof of Theorem 3 Before proving Theorem 3, we present two preliminary re- sults. Lemma 1. In a ﬁnitely repeated Stackelberg security game withjNj= 2,jj= 2, andK= 1, given that both types of attackers play pure behavioral strategies, the set of the possible defender’s equilibrium strategies at time step 2 is ﬁnite and strategies in this set are given by speciﬁc formulas. At the second time step, both types of attackers always play pure strategies. We denote Ui as the typeattacker’s utility by attacking target iat the second time step, given the defender’s strategy. We denote by M() = (M();1 M())the defender’s strategy that makes type attacker in- different over the two targets at the second time step where M()is the coverage probability on target 1. We call de- fender’s strategy M()the ”indifferent strategy” for the type attacker. We denote mmax (mmin) as defender’s strategy that makes the type of attackers who have larger (smaller) M()indifferent over the two targets. Denote mt(i)as the coverage probability of defender’s strategy on target iat time stept. Speciﬁcally, we have U1 1=m2(1) P1(1)R1(1) +R1(1) U2 1=m2(2) P1(2)R1(2) +R1(2) U1 2=m2(1) P2(1)R2(1) +R2(1) U2 2=m2(2) P2(2)R2(2) +R2(2) M() =R(1)P(2) R(1)P(2)+R(2)P(1) mmax= (max M();1max M()) mmin= (min M();1min M())Proof. First, we list all possible combinations of the attack- ers’ best responses and the corresponding utility relationship without equality. We will discuss the equality scenarios later. Cases are indexed and these indices are consistent in the fol- lowing tables. Table 1: Attackers’ best response idxy1(1jm2)y1(2jm2)y2(1jm2)y2(2jm2) 1 0 1 0 1 2 1 0 1 0 3 1 0 0 1 4 0 1 1 0 Table 2: Utility Relationship idx Type 1 Type 2 1U1 1U2 1<0U1 2U2 2<0 2U1 1U2 1>0U1 2U2 2>0 3U1 1U2 1>0U1 2U2 2<0 4U1 1U2 1<0U1 2U2 2>0 We obtain the defender’s strategy space(Table 3) by solv- ing the inequalities in Table 2. For example, in the case 1, we have U1 1U2 1<0 m2(1) P1(1)R1(1) +R1(1) m2(2) P1(2)R1(2) R1(2)<0 m2(1) P1(1)R1(1) +P1(2)R1(2) +R1(1)P1(2)<0 m2(1) P1(1)+R1(1)P1(2)+R1(2) > R1(1)P1(2) )m2(1)>R1(1)P1(2) P1(1)+R1(1)P1(2)+R1(2)=M(1) Thus, m2(1)> M (1). Similarly, m2(1)> M (2). So we havem2(1)2(mmax(1);1]. Same reasoning process can be applied for other cases. Table 3: Defender’s strategy space idx Action Spaces Condition 1 m2(1)2(mmax(1);1] 2 m2(1)2[0,mmin(1)) 3m2(1)2(mmin( 1 ),mmax( 1 ))M(1)>M(2) 4m2(1)2(mmin( 1 ),mmax( 1 ))M(1 )<M(2) Notice that for case 3 and case 4, only one of them could happen, which depends on the relationship between M(1) andM(2). Second, we discuss the possible equilibrium strategies of the defender in each strategy space and show the defender’s indifferent strategies for two types of attackers are those equilibrium strategies. In an equilibrium, any player who deviates from the equi- librium on its own has nothing to gain. Based on this prop- erty, we disturb the defender’s strategy and explore the exis- tence of equilibrium strategies in each strategy space. At the second time step, the defender’s utility is given byP p(jh1)EUd; m2;fy(ijm2)g as shown in Stackel- berg model. Action space 1 X p(jh1)EUd; m2;fy(ijm2)g =p(1jh1)X iy1(ijm2)[m2(i)(Rd(i)Pd(i))+Pd(i)] +p(2jh1)X iy2(ijm2)[m2(j)(Rd(i)Pd(i))+Pd(i)] =p(1jh1)[m2(2)(Rd(2)Pd(2))+Pd(2)] + p(2jh1)[m2(2)(Rd(2)Pd(2))+Pd(2)] =[p(1jh1)+ p(2jh1)][m2(2)(Rd(2)Pd(2)) +Pd(2)] =[p(1jh1)+ p(2jh1)][Rd(2)m2(1)(Rd(2)Pd(2))] The above is decreasing with m2(1). Given the above holds for m2(1)2(mmax(1);1], we can conclude that the equilibrium does not lie in m2(1)2(mmax(1);1], otherwise it is always possible to decrease m2(1)to ob- tain a better utility. So m2(1)will converge to mmax(1). Action space 2 By the same reasoning process, the defender’s utility at the second time step is increasing with m2(1). Given the above holds for m2(1)2[0;mmin(1)), we can conclude that the equilibrium does not lie in m2(1)2 [0;mmin(1)), otherwise it is always possible to increase m2(1)to obtain a better utility. So m2(1)will converge tommin(1). Action space 3 X p(jh1)EUd; m2;fy(ijm2)g =p(1jh1)X iy1(ijm2)[m2(i)(Rd(i)Pd(i))+Pd(i)] +p(2jh1)X iy2(ijm2)[m2(i)(Rd(i)Pd(i))+Pd(i)] =p(1jh1)[m2(1)(Rd(1)Pd(1))+Pd(1)] + p(2jh1)[m2(2)(Rd(2)Pd(2))+Pd(2)] Assume m2= (m2(1);m2(2)) is an equilibrium strat- egy of the defender in action space 3. First disturb m2(1) by2[0;mmax(1)m2(1)) and adjust m2(2)accordingly and we denote the new strategy as m0 2= (m0 2(1);m0 2(2)), where m0 2(1) = m2(1) +and m0 2(2) = m2(2). Since m2is an equilibrium strategy, the defender’s utility obtained by playing m2, denoted asUd(m2), should be no less than that obtained by playing m0 2, denoted as Ud(m0 2). So we have Ud(m0 2)Ud(m2) = p(1jh1)[(m2(1) +)(Rd(1)Pd(1))] + p(2jh1)[(m2(2))(Rd(2)Pd(2))] fp(1jh1)[m2(1)(Rd(1)Pd(1))] + p(2jh1)[m2(2)(Rd(2)Pd(2))]g = p(1jh1)[(Rd(1)Pd(1))] + p(2jh1)[(Rd(2)Pd(2))] 0 ) p(1jh1) [Rd(1)Pd( 1 ) ]p(2jh1) [Rd(2)Pd( 2 ) ] Similarly, disturb m2(1)by2[0;m2(1)mmin(1)) in the opposite direction and adjust m2(2)accordingly and we denote the new strategy as m0 2= (m0 2(1);m0 2(2)), where m0 2(1) = m2(1)andm0 2(2) = m2(2)+. Then we have p(1jh1) [Rd(1)Pd( 1 )]p(2jh1) [Rd(2)Pd( 2 )]. Thus, we have the following equation p(1jh1) [Rd(1)Pd( 1 )] = p(2jh1) [Rd(2)Pd( 2 )] Scale both sides by dividing p(1jh1)+ p(2jh1)to replace the unscaled belief with the true belief. Then we have p(1jh1) [Rd(1)Pd( 1 )] =p(2jh1) [Rd(2)Pd( 2 )] Sincep(1jh1) +p(2jh1) = 1 , we have p(1jh1) =Rd(2)Pd(2) Rd(1)Pd(1) +Rd(2)Pd(2) p(2jh1) =Rd(1)Pd(1) Rd(1)Pd(1) +Rd(2)Pd(2) which are only related to the reward and penalty of the defender on different targets and unrelated to the speciﬁc form of m2. If these two equalities hold, any such disturbance on m2 would not decrease the defender’s utility. Therefore, any strategy in this strategy space leads to the same utility for the defender so any strategy is a potential equilib- rium strategy. In addition, it can be easily proved that bothmminandmmax results in the same utility as other strategies in this space. Intuitively, we can always disturb one strategy and make the new strategy converge to either mminormmax without change of utility. So we assume in this case the defender chooses either mminormmax as his strategy. If these two equalities do not hold together, it means either we have p(1jh1) [Rd(1)Pd( 1 )]>p(2jh1) [Rd(2)Pd( 2 )] or have p(1jh1) [Rd(1)Pd( 1 )]<p(2jh1) [Rd(2)Pd( 2 )]. So we can always disturb one strategy in certain direction to get a better utility for the defender. Thus, the strategy will converge to either mminormmax whichever gives higher utility. Action space 4 Similar to action space 3, if p(1jh1) = Rd(1)Pd(1) Rd(1)Pd(1)+Rd(2)Pd(2)andp(2jh1) = Rd(2)Pd(2) Rd(1)Pd(1)+Rd(2)Pd(2), any strategy in this strat- egy space leads to the same utility for the defender. Otherwise, the strategy will converge to either mminor mmax. In summary, for two targets and two types of attackers, given that both types of attackers play pure behavioral strategies, either mminormmax leads to the highest utility for the de- fender at the second time step. In fact, for any one shot game, by replacing the posterior belief with the prior belief, we ob- tain the same result. Lemma 2. At the second time step, when the defender com- mits to either mmin ormmax, one of the two types of at- tackers will be indifferent among the two targets. Proof. Without loss of generality, we assume mmax = (M(1);1M(1)) andmmin= (M(2);1M(2)). If the the defender commits to mmax, then we have U1 1=M(1) P1(1)R1(1) +R1(1) =R1(1)R1(2)P1(1)P1(2) R1(1)P1(2) +R1(2)P1(1) U2 1= [1M(1)] P1(2)R1(2) +R1(2) =R1(1)R1(2)P1(1)P1(2) R1(1)P1(2) +R1(2)P1(1) So we haveU1 1=U2 1, which means type 1 attacker is indif- ferent over both targets. Similarly, if the the defender com- mits to mmin, we haveU1 2=U2 2. We name the attacker who has no preference over both targets “indifferent attacker”. Proof of Theorem 3. We claim that at both time steps, the defender choosing either mmin ormmax whichever gives higher myopic utility (let the higher utility be given by m) and the two types of attackers playing best responses in ev- ery time step is a PBNE. Notice that since the defender does not know the true type of the attacker, he has to analyze both types of attackers’ behavior. According to Lemma 2, there exists an indifferent attacker at the both time steps on the equilibrium path (since all types of adversary play best re- sponse to mmin ormmax). At the ﬁrst time step, the in- different attacker would behave exactly the same as another type of attackers. This imitation helps to hide its true type and results in no update of the defender’s belief at the sec- ond time step, which beneﬁts itself the most since the un- certainty of his type for the defender remains unchanged. At the second time step, the indifferent attacker could choose whatever target to attack because the game ends after its at- tack. At probability zero histories (deviation from mby the defender in ﬁrst time step or deviation by adversary in ﬁrsttime step), we ﬁx the defender’s belief at the second time step to be the prior. Now we prove the optimality of this equilibrium. We want to show that no one individually wants to deviate from its equilibrium strategy at any time step. At the ﬁrst time step, the defender needs to consider his myopic utility and the future expected utility simultane- ously. Since there is no belief update for any outcome af- ter ﬁrst time step, the future expected utility of the defender is a constant and is unrelated to the defender’s strategy at the ﬁrst time step. So the defender at the ﬁrst time step only needs to choose the strategy that gives the highest myopic utility. Since mis his myopic best response, he would not deviate from this strategy. For the two types of attackers at the ﬁrst time step on the equilibrium path, if the true attacker is the indifferent attacker, any action would be its best response and it would just mimic the other attacker type’s behavior to hide his type. So it would not deviate to preserve the largest amount of un- certainty of his type. If the true attacker is not the indifferent attacker, then whichever target it attacks would not update the defender’s belief due to the imitation by the indifferent attacker. So it will just play the myopic best response and would not deviate from that. For the two types of attackers at the ﬁrst time step off the equilibrium path (zero probability history), the defender’s belief is unaffected by its actions, hence it will play the my- opic best response. At the second time step, since the defender’s belief will not be updated, the reasoning process is exactly the same as that for the ﬁrst time step. The only difference is at the second time step the indifferent attacker does not need to imitate and he can attack any target. To sum up, no one wants to deviate from its equilibrium strategy alone for two-time- step game. Now we extend two-time-step scenario to multiple time steps. For multiple time steps, at the last time step T, the case is same as the case of the second time step in two-time- step setting. From time t= 1 toT1, the case is same as the case of the ﬁrst time step in two-time-step setting since the indifferent attacker exists at each time step and would always imitate to hide his type. The set of strategies in this equilibrium for any subgame is still an equilibrium in that the strategies of the defender and the attacker at each time step fromt= 1toT1are the same. Since belief is updated based on Bayes rule and players are sequentially rational, the equilibrium we claim is a PBNE. Therefore, we conclude that for two targets and two types of attackers, there exists a PBNE in which both types of at- tackers would always play their myopic best responses.
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53c3f257-acc8-4cd9-9b6a-eb32ffa9c53e	StampyAI/alignment-research-dataset/alignmentforum	Alignment Forum	[Intro to brain-like-AGI safety] 2. “Learning from scratch” in the brain 2.1 Post summary / Table of contents ==================================== Part of the [“Intro to brain-like-AGI safety” post series](https://www.alignmentforum.org/s/HzcM2dkCq7fwXBej8). Having introduced the “brain-like-AGI safety” problem in the [previous post](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/4basF9w9jaPZpoC8R/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-1-what-s-the-problem-and-why), the next 6 posts (#2–[#7](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/zXibERtEWpKuG5XAC/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-7-from-hardcoded-drives-to)) are primarily about neuroscience, building up to a more nuts-and-bolts understanding of what a brain-like AGI might look like (at least, in its safety-relevant aspects). This post focuses on a concept that I call “learning from scratch”, and I will offer a hypothesized breakdown in which 96% of the human brain (including the neocortex) “learns from scratch”, and the other 4% (including the brainstem) doesn’t. This hypothesis is central to how I think the brain works, and hence will be a key prerequisite for the whole rest of the series. * In Section 2.2, I’ll define the concept of “learning from scratch”. As an example, if I assert that the neocortex “learns from scratch”, then I’m claiming that the neocortex starts out totally useless to the organism—outputting fitness-improving signals no more often than chance—until it starts learning things (within the individual's lifetime). Here are a couple everyday examples of things that “learn from scratch”: + In most deep learning papers, the trained model “learns from scratch”—the model is initialized from random weights, and hence the model outputs are random garbage at first. But during training, the weights are updated, and the model outputs eventually become very useful. + A blank hard disk drive also “learns from scratch”—you can't pull useful information out of it until after you’ve written information into it. * In Section 2.3, I will clarify some frequent confusions: + “Learning from scratch” is different from “blank slate”, because there is an innate learning algorithm, innate neural architecture, innate hyperparameters, etc. + “Learning from scratch” is different from “nurture-not-nature”, because (1) only some parts of the brain learn from scratch, while other parts don’t, and (2) the learning algorithms are not necessarily learning about the external environment—they could also be learning e.g. how to control one’s own body. + “Learning from scratch” is different from (and more specific than) “brain plasticity”, because the latter can also include (for example) a genetically-hardwired circuit with just one specific adjustable parameter, and that parameter changes semi-permanently under specific conditions. * In Section 2.4, I’ll propose my hypothesis that two major parts of the brain exist solely to run learning-from-scratch algorithms—namely, the telencephalon (neocortex, hippocampus, amygdala, most of the basal ganglia, etc.) and cerebellum. Together these comprise 96% of the volume of the human brain. * In Section 2.5, I’ll touch on four different lines of evidence concerning my hypothesis that the telencephalon and cerebellum learn from scratch: (1) big-picture thinking about how the brain works, (2) neonatal data, (3) a connection to the hypothesis of “cortical uniformity” and related issues, and (4) the possibility that a certain brain preprocessing motif—so-called “pattern separation”—involves randomization in a way that forces downstream algorithms to learn from scratch. * In Section 2.6, I’ll talk briefly about whether my hypothesis is mainstream vs idiosyncratic. (Answer: I’m not really sure.) * In Section 2.7, I’ll offer a little teaser of why learning-from-scratch is important for AGI safety—we wind up with a situation where the thing we want the AGI to be trying to do (e.g. cure Alzheimer's) is a concept buried inside a big hard-to-interpret learned-from-scratch data structure. Thus, it is not straightforward for the programmer to write motivation-related code that refers to this concept. Much more on this topic in future posts. * Section 2.8 will be the first of three parts of my “timelines to brain-like AGI” discussion, focusing on how long it will take for future scientists to reverse-engineer the key operating principles of the learning-from-scratch part of the brain. (The remainder of the timelines discussion is in [the next post](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/hE56gYi5d68uux9oM/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-3-two-subsystems-learning-and).) 2.2 What is “learning from scratch”? ==================================== As in the intro above, I’m going to suggest that large parts of the brain—basically the telencephalon and cerebellum (see Section 2.4 below)—“learn from scratch”, in the sense that they start out emitting signals that are random garbage, not contributing to evolutionarily-adaptive behaviors, but over time become more and more immediately useful thanks to a within-lifetime learning algorithm. Here are two ways to think about the learning-from-scratch hypothesis: * How you should think about learning-from-scratch (if you’re an ML reader): Think of a deep neural net initialized with random weights. Its neural architecture might be simple or might be incredibly complicated; it doesn't matter. And it certainly has an inductive bias that makes it learn certain types of patterns more easily than other types of patterns. But it still has to learn them! If its weights are initially random, then it's initially useless, and gets gradually more useful with training data. The idea here is that these parts of the brain (neocortex etc.) are likewise “initialized from random weights”, or something equivalent. * How you should think about learning-from-scratch (if you’re a neuroscience reader): Think of a memory-related system, like the hippocampus. The ability to form memories is a very helpful ability for an organism to have! …But it ain’t helpful at birth!![[1]](#fnljlav0fwh9) You need to accumulate memories before you can use them! My proposal is that everything in the telencephalon and cerebellum are in the same category—they’re kinds of memory modules. They may be very special kinds of memory modules! The neocortex, for example, can learn and remember a super-complex web of interconnected patterns, and comes with powerful querying features, and can even query itself in recurrent loops, and so on. But still, it’s a form of memory, and hence starts out useless, and gets progressively more useful to the organism as it accumulates learned content. 2.3 Three things that “learning from scratch” is NOT ==================================================== 2.3.1 Learning-from-scratch is NOT “blank slate” ------------------------------------------------ I already mentioned this, but I want to be crystal clear: if the neocortex (for example) learns from scratch, that does not mean that there is no genetically-hardcoded information content in the neocortex. It means that the genetically-hardcoded information content is probably better thought of as the following: * Learning algorithm(s)—i.e., innate rules for semi-permanently changing the neurons or their connections, in a situation-dependent way. * Inference algorithm(s)—i.e., innate rules for what output signals should be sent right now, to help the animal survive and thrive. The actual output signals, of course, will also depend on previously-learned information. * Neural network architecture—i.e., an innate large-scale wiring diagram specifying how different parts of the learning module are connected to each other, and to input and output signals. * Hyperparameters—e.g., different parts of the architecture might innately have different learning rates. These hyperparameters can also change during development (cf. [“sensitive periods”](https://dictionary.apa.org/sensitive-period)). There can also be an innate capacity to change hyperparameters on a moment-by-moment basis in response to special command signals (in the form of neuromodulators like acetylcholine). Given all those innate ingredients, the learning-from-scratch algorithm is ready to receive input data and supervisory signals from elsewhere[[2]](#fnlvdmy6cdf1t), and it gradually learns to do useful things. This innate information is not necessarily simple. There could be 50,000 wildly different learning algorithms in 50,000 different parts of the neocortex, and that would still qualify as “learning-from-scratch” in my book! (I don’t think that’s the case though—see Section 2.5.3 on “uniformity”.) ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/lesswrong-2-0/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/wBHSYwqssBGCnwvHg/f3wbsknpnh8ptxzpxkuh)When you imagine a learning-from-scratch algorithm, you should not imagine an empty void that gets filled with data. You should imagine an automaton that continually (1) writes information into a memory bank, and (2) performs queries on the current contents of the memory bank. “From scratch” just means that the memory bank starts out empty. There are many such automatons, each following a different procedure for exactly what to write and how to query. For example, a “lookup table” corresponds to a simple automaton that just records whatever it sees. Other automatons correspond to supervised learning algorithms, and reinforcement learning algorithms, and autoencoders, etc. etc.2.3.2 Learning-from-scratch is NOT “nurture-over-nature” -------------------------------------------------------- There’s a tendency to associate “learning-from-scratch algorithms” with the “nurture” side of the “nature-vs-nurture” debate. I think that’s wrong. Quite the contrary: I think that the learning-from-scratch hypothesis is fully compatible with the possibility that evolved innate behaviors play a big role. Two reasons: First, some parts of the brain are absolutely NOT running learning-from-scratch algorithms! In this category is mainly the brainstem and hypothalamus (more about those below and in [the next post](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/hE56gYi5d68uux9oM/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-3-two-subsystems-learning-and)). These non-learning-from-scratch parts of the brain would have to be fully responsible for any adaptive behavior at birth.[[1]](#fnljlav0fwh9) Is that plausible? I think so, given the impressive range of functionality in the brainstem. For example, the neocortex has circuitry for processing visual and other sensory data—but so does the brainstem! The neocortex has motor-control circuitry—but so does the brainstem! In at least some cases, full adaptive behaviors seem to be implemented entirely within the brainstem: for example, mice have a [brainstem incoming-bird-detecting circuit wired directly to a brainstem running-away circuit](https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-018-0244-6). So my learning-from-scratch hypothesis is not making any blanket claims about what algorithms or functionalities are or aren’t present in the brain. It’s just a claim that certain types of algorithms are only in certain parts of the brain. Second, “learning from scratch” is not the same as “learning from the environment”. Here’s a made-up example[[3]](#fn7fpl6gy64zh). Imagine a bird brainstem is built with an innate capability to judge what a good birdsong should sound like, but lacks a recipe for how to produce a good birdsong. Well, a learning-from-scratch algorithm could fill in that gap—doing trial-and-error to get from the former to the latter. This example shows that learning-from-scratch algorithms can be in charge of behaviors that we would naturally and correctly describe as innate / “nature not nurture”. 2.3.3 Learning-from-scratch is NOT the more general notion of “plasticity” -------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Plasticity” is a term for the brain semi-permanently changing itself, typically by changing the presence / absence / strength of neuron-to-neuron synapses, but also sometimes via other mechanisms, like changes of a neuron’s gene expression. Any learning-from-scratch algorithm necessarily involves plasticity. But not all brain plasticity is part of a learning-from-scratch algorithm. A second possibility is what I call “individual innate adjustable parameters”. Here’s a table with both an example of each and general ways in which they differ: \| \| \| \| \| --- \| --- \| --- \| \| \| Learning-from-scratch algorithms \| Individual innate adjustable parameters \| \| Stereotypical example to keep in mind: \| Every deep learning paper: there’s a learning algorithm that gradually builds a trained model by adjusting lots of parameters. \| Some connection in the rat brain that strengthens when the rat wins a fight—basically, it’s a tally of how many fights the rat has won over the course of its life. Then this connection is used to implement the behavior “If you’ve won lots of fights in your life, be more aggressive.” [(ref)](https://www.pnas.org/content/117/41/25789) \| \| Number of parameters that change based on input data (i.e. how many dimensions is the space of all possible trained models?) \| Maybe lots—hundreds, thousands, millions, etc. \| Probably few—even as few as one \| \| If you could scale it up, would it work better after training? \| Yeah, probably. \| Huh?? WTF does “scale it up” mean? \| I don’t think there’s a sharp line between these things; I think there’s a gray area where one blends into the other. Well, at least I think there’s a gray area in principle. In practice, I feel like it's a pretty clean division—whenever I learn about a particular example of brain plasticity, it winds up being clearly in one category or the other. My categorization here, by the way, is a bit unusual in neuroscience, I think. Neuroscientists more often focus on low-level implementation details: “Does the plasticity come from long-term synaptic change, or does it come from long-term gene expression change?” “What’s the biochemical mechanism?” Etc. That’s a totally different topic. For example, I’d bet that the exact same low-level biochemical synaptic plasticity mechanism can be involved in both a learning-from-scratch algorithm and an individual innate adjustable parameter. Why do I bring this up? Because I’m planning to argue that the hypothalamus and brainstem have little or no learning-from-scratch algorithms, so far as I can tell. But they definitely have individual innate adjustable parameters. ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/lesswrong-2-0/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/wBHSYwqssBGCnwvHg/qx42v4my61pdrm6aasgm)To be concrete, here are three examples of “individual innate adjustable parameters” in the hypothalamus & brainstem: * I already mentioned the mouse hypothalamus circuit that says “if you keep winning fights, be more aggressive”—[ref](https://www.pnas.org/content/117/41/25789). * [Here’s](https://doi.org/10.1152/ajpregu.00501.2014) a rat hypothalamus circuit that says “if you keep getting dangerously salt-deprived, increase your baseline appetite for salt”. * The superior colliculus in the brainstem contains a visual map, auditory map, and saccade motor map, and it has a mechanism to keep all three lined up—so that when you see a flash or hear a noise, you immediately turn to look in exactly the right direction. This mechanism involves plasticity—[it can self-correct in animals wearing prism glasses](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8229186/), for example. I’m not familiar with the details, but I’m guessing it’s something like: If you see a motion, and saccade to it, but the motion is not centered even after the saccade, then that generates an error signal that induces a corresponding incremental map shift. Maybe this whole system involves 8 adjustable parameters (scale and offset, horizontal and vertical, three maps to align), or maybe it’s more complicated—again, I don’t know the details. See the difference? Go back to the table above if you’re still confused. 2.4 My hypothesis: the telencephalon and cerebellum learn from scratch, the hypothalamus and brainstem don’t ============================================================================================================ ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/lesswrong-2-0/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/wBHSYwqssBGCnwvHg/agtioogx2bpukjvpyhng)My hypothesis is that ~96% of the human brain by volume is running learning-from-scratch algorithms. The main exceptions are the brainstem and hypothalamus, which together are around the size of your thumb. [Image source](https://www.maropeng.co.za/content/page/the-human-brain)Three claims: First, I think the whole telencephalon learns from scratch (and is useless at birth[[1]](#fnljlav0fwh9)). The telencephalon (a.k.a. “cerebrum”) is mostly the neocortex in humans, plus the hippocampus, amygdala, most of the basal ganglia, and various more obscure bits and bobs. Despite appearances, the model I like (due originally to the brilliant [Larry Swanson](http://doi.org/10.1016/s0006-8993(00)02905-x)) says that the whole telencephalon is organized into a nice three-layer structure (cortex, striatum, pallidum), and this structure aligns with a relatively small number of interconnected learning algorithms. See upcoming posts [5](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/F759WQ8iKjqBncDki/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-5-the-long-term-predictor-and) & [6](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qNZSBqLEh4qLRqgWW/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-6-big-picture-of-motivation) for a bit more on that. (UPDATE:* After learning more, I want to revise this. I think that the whole “cortical mantle” and the whole “extended striatum” learn from scratch. (This includes things like the hippocampus, amygdala, lateral septum, etc.—which go together with the cortex and/or striatum both embryologically and cytoarchitecturally). As for the pallidum, I think some parts of it are basically an extension of the* [brainstem RAS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reticular_formation) and thus definitely don’t belong in the learning-from-scratch bucket. Other parts of the pallidum could go either way, depending on some judgment calls about where to define the I/O surface of certain learning algorithms. The pallidum is sufficiently small that I don’t need to change my previous volume estimates, including the “96%” figure. I’m not going to go through the whole series and change “telencephalon” to “cortical mantle & extended striatum” in a million places, sorry, you’ll just have to remember.) The thalamus is technically outside the telencephalon, but most of it is intimately interconnected with the cortex—some researchers describe it as functionally like an “extra layer” of cortex. So I would lump that part in with the learning-from-scratch telencephalon too. The telencephalon and thalamus together comprise ~86% the volume of the human brain ([ref](https://doi.org/10.1016/0166-2236(95)92766-j)). Second, I think the cerebellum also learns from scratch (and is likewise useless at birth). The cerebellum is ~10% of adult brain volume ([ref](https://doi.org/10.1016/0166-2236(95)92766-j)). More on the cerebellum in [Post #4](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/Y3bkJ59j4dciiLYyw/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-4-the-short-term-predictor). Third, I think the hypothalamus and brainstem absolutely do NOT learn from scratch (and they are very active and useful right from birth). I think other parts of the diencephalon are in the same category too—e.g. the habenula and pineal gland. OK, that’s my hypothesis. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were minor exceptions to this picture. Maybe there’s some little nucleus somewhere in the telencephalon that orchestrates a biologically-adaptive behavior without first learning it from scratch. (Edited to add: Yup! See update above.) Sure, why not. But I currently think this picture is at least broadly right. In the next two sections I’ll talk about some evidence related to my hypothesis, and then what others in the field think of it. 2.5 Evidence on whether the telencephalon & cerebellum learn from scratch ========================================================================= 2.5.1 Big-picture-type evidence ------------------------------- I find from reading and talking to people that the biggest sticking points against believing that the telencephalon and cerebellum learn from scratch is overwhelmingly not detailed discussion of neuroscience data etc. but rather: 1. failure to even consider this hypothesis as a possibility, and 2. confusion about the consequences of this hypothesis, and in particular how to flesh it out into a sensible big picture of brain and behavior. If you’ve read this far, then #1 should no longer be a problem. What about #2? A central type of question is “If the telencephalon & cerebellum learn from scratch, then how do they do X?”—for various different X. If there’s an X for which we can’t answer this question at all, it suggests that the learning-from-scratch hypothesis is wrong. Conversely, if we can find really good answers to this question for lots of X, it would offer evidence (though not proof) that the learning-from-scratch hypothesis is right. The upcoming posts in this series will, I hope, offer some of this type of evidence. 2.5.2 Neonatal evidence ----------------------- If the telencephalon & cerebellum cannot produce biologically-adaptive outputs except by learning to do so over time, then it follows that any biologically-adaptive neonatal[[1]](#fnljlav0fwh9) behavior would have to be driven by the brainstem & hypothalamus. Is that right? It seems like the kind of thing that should be experimentally measurable, right? [This 1991 paper](http://doi.org/10.1037/0033-295x.98.2.164) indeed says “evidence has been accumulating that suggests that newborn perceptuomotor activity is mainly controlled by subcortical mechanisms”. But I don’t know if anything has changed in the 30 years since that paper—let me know if you’ve seen other references on this. Actually, it’s a harder question than it sounds. Suppose an infant does something biologically-adaptive… * The first question we need to ask is: really? Maybe it’s a bad (or wrongly-interpreted) experiment. For example, if an adult sticks his tongue out at a newborn infant human, will the infant stick out her own tongue as an act of imitation? Seems like a simple question, right? Nope,[it’s a decades-long raging controversy](http://www.replicatedtypo.com/sticking-the-tongue-out-early-imitation-in-infants/6082.html). A competing theory is centered around oral exploration: “tongue protrusion seems to be a general response to salient stimuli and is modulated by the child’s interest in the stimuli”; a protruding adult tongue happens to elicit this response, but so do flashing lights and bursts of music. I’m sure some people know which newborn experiments are trustworthy, but I don’t, at least not at the moment. And I’m feeling awfully paranoid after seeing two widely-respected books in the field ([Scientist in the Crib](https://www.amazon.com/Scientist-Crib-Early-Learning-Tells/dp/0688177883),[Origin of Concepts](https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Concepts-Oxford-Cognitive-Development/dp/0199838801/ref=sr_1_1?crid=22TGGUPLTBR2S&keywords=origin+of+concepts&qid=1643506916&s=books&sprefix=origin+of+concepts%2Cstripbooks%2C63&sr=1-1)) repeat that claim about newborn tongue imitation as if it’s a rock-solid fact. * The second question we need to ask is: is it the result of within-lifetime learning? Remember, even a 3-month-old infant has had 4 million waking seconds of “training data” to learn from. In fact, even zero-day-old infants could have potentially been running learning-from-scratch algorithms in the womb.[[1]](#fnljlav0fwh9) * The third question we need to ask is: what part of the brain is orchestrating this behavior? My hypothesis says that non-learned adaptive behaviors cannot be orchestrated by the telencephalon or cerebellum. But my hypothesis does allow such behaviors to be orchestrated by the brainstem! And figuring out which part of the neonatal brain is causally upstream of some behavior can be experimentally challenging. 2.5.3 “Uniformity” evidence --------------------------- The “cortical uniformity” hypothesis says that every part of the neocortex runs a more-or-less similar algorithm. (…With various caveats, especially related to the non-uniform neural architecture and hyperparameters). Opinions differ on whether (or to what extent) cortical uniformity is true—I have a brief discussion of the evidence and arguments [here](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/ixZLTmFfnKRbaStA5/book-review-a-thousand-brains-by-jeff-hawkins) (and links to more). I happen to think it’s very probably true, at least in the weak sense that a future researcher who has a really good nuts-and-bolts understanding of how Neocortex Area #147 works would be well on their way to understanding how literally any other part of the neocortex works. I won’t be diving into that here; I consider it generally off-topic for this series. I bring this up because *if* you believe in cortical uniformity, then you should *probably* believe in cortical learning-from-scratch as well. The argument goes as follows: The adult neocortex does lots of apparently very different things: vision processing, sound processing, motor control, language, planning, and so on. How would one reconcile this fact with cortical uniformity? Learning-from-scratch offers a plausible way to reconcile them. After all, we know that a single learning-from-scratch algorithm, fed with very different input data and supervisory signals, can wind up doing very different things—consider how transformer-architecture deep neural networks can be trained to generate [natural-language text](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-3), or [images](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DALL-E), or [music](https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.00341), or [robot motor control signals](https://arxiv.org/abs/2108.00385), etc. By contrast, if we accept cortical uniformity but reject learning-from-scratch, well, umm, I can’t see any way to make sense of how that would work. Analogously (but less often discussed than the neocortex case), should we believe in “allocortical uniformity”? As background, allocortex seems to be a simpler version of neocortex, with three layers instead of six; before the neocortex evolved, early amniotes are believed to have had 100% allocortex. Allocortex, like neocortex, does various different things: in adult humans, the hippocampus is involved in navigation and episodic memory, while the piriform cortex is involved in olfactory processing. So there’s a potential analogous argument for learning-from-scratch there. Moving on, I mentioned above (and more in [Big Picture of Phasic Dopamine](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/jrewt3rLFiKWrKuyZ/big-picture-of-phasic-dopamine), and also upcoming in [Post #5, Section 5.4.1](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/F759WQ8iKjqBncDki/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-5-the-long-term-predictor-and#5_4_1__Vertical__neuroanatomy__1__cortico_basal_ganglia_thalamo_cortical_loops)) the idea (due to Larry Swanson) that the whole telencephalon seems to be organized into three layers—“cortex”, “striatum”, and “pallidum”. I just talked about cortex; what about “striatal uniformity” and “pallidal uniformity”? Don’t expect to find a dedicated literature review—in fact, the previous sentence seems to be the first time those two terms have ever been written down. But there are in fact at least some commonalities across each of those layers—e.g., medium spiny neurons exist everywhere in the striatum layer, I think. And I continue to believe that the picture I outlined in [Big Picture of Phasic Dopamine](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/jrewt3rLFiKWrKuyZ/big-picture-of-phasic-dopamine) (and upcoming Posts [#5](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/F759WQ8iKjqBncDki/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-5-the-long-term-predictor-and#5_4_1__Vertical__neuroanatomy__1__cortico_basal_ganglia_thalamo_cortical_loops)-[#6](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/qNZSBqLEh4qLRqgWW/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-6-big-picture-of-motivation#6_3_4_Thought_Generator_neuroanatomy_sketch)) is a reasonable first-pass reconciliation between “everything we know about the striatum and pallidum” on the one hand, and “several variations on a certain learning-from-scratch algorithm” on the other hand. In the cerebellum case, there is at least some literature on the uniformity hypothesis (search for the term “universal cerebellar transform”), but again no consensus. The adult cerebellum is likewise involved in apparently-different functions like motor coordination, language, cognition, and emotions. I personally believe in uniformity there too, with details coming up in [Post #4](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/Y3bkJ59j4dciiLYyw/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-4-the-short-term-predictor). 2.5.4 Locally-random pattern separation --------------------------------------- This is another reason that I personally put a lot of stock in the learning-from-scratch telencephalon and cerebellum. It’s kinda specific, but very salient in my mind; see if you buy it. ### 2.5.4.1 What is pattern separation? There is a common motif in the brain called “pattern separation”. Let me explain what it is and why it exists. Suppose you’re an ML engineer working for a restaurant chain. Your boss tells you to predict sales for different candidate franchise locations. The first thing you might do is to gather a bunch of data-streams—local unemployment rate, local restaurant ratings, local grocery store prices, whether there happens to be a novel coronavirus spreading around the world right now, etc. I like to call these “context data”. You would use the context data as inputs to a neural network. The output of the network is supposed to be a prediction of the restaurant sales. You adjust the neural network weights (using supervised learning, with data from existing restaurants) to make that happen. No problem! Pattern separation is when you add an extra step at the beginning. You take your various context data-streams, and randomly combine them in lots and lots of different ways. Then you sprinkle in some nonlinearity, and voilà! You now have way more context data-streams than you started with! Then those can be the inputs to the trainable neural net.[[4]](#fnrnx9x5260t) ![](https://res.cloudinary.com/lesswrong-2-0/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/mirroredImages/wBHSYwqssBGCnwvHg/ibyx8qgx9mrnsmkrovck) Illustration of (part of) fruit fly sensory processing. The tall vertical gray bar in the center-left is the “pattern separation” layer; it takes the organized sensory signals coming from the left, and remixes them up into a large number of different, (locally) random combinations. These are then sent rightward, to serve as “context” inputs for the supervised learning modules. Image source: [Li et al. 2020](https://doi.org/10.7554/eLife.62576).In ML terms, pattern separation is like adding a very wide hidden layer, at the input side, with fixed weights. If the layer is wide enough, you’ll find that some neurons in the layer are carrying useful representations, just by good luck. And then the next layer can use those useful neurons, and ignore the rest. ML readers are now thinking to themselves: “OK, fine, but this is kinda dumb. Why add a extra-wide hidden layer at the beginning, with non-learnable weights? Why not just add a normal-sized hidden layer at the beginning, with learnable weights? Wouldn’t that be easier and better?” Umm, probably! At least, it would indeed probably be better in this particular example.[[5]](#fn1ysr55s8x7e) So why add a pattern-separation layer, instead of an extra learnable layer? Well, remember that in biological neurons, doing backprop (or something equivalent) through multiple learnable layers is at best a complicated procedure, and at worst totally impossible. Or at least, that’s my current impression. Backprop as such is widely acknowledged to be impossible to implement in biological neurons (cf. “[the weight transport problem](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1551-6708.1987.tb00862.x)”). Various groups in ML and neuroscience have taken that as a challenge, and devised roughly 7 zillion different mechanisms that are (allegedly) biologically plausible and (allegedly) wind up functionally similar to backprop for one reason or another.[[6]](#fndspaupkbs5) I haven’t read all these papers. But anyway, even if it’s possible to propagate errors through 2 learnable layers of biological neurons (or 3 layers, or even N layers), let’s remember that it's an absolute breeze to do error-driven learning with just one learnable layer, using biological neurons. (All it takes is a set of identical synapses, getting updated by a 3-factor learning rule. Details coming up in [Post #4](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/Y3bkJ59j4dciiLYyw/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-4-the-short-term-predictor).) So it’s not crazy to think that evolution might settle on a solution like pattern separation, which gets some of the advantage of an extra learnable layer, but without the complication of actually propagating errors through an extra learnable layer. ### 2.5.4.2 Where is pattern-separation? Pattern separation is thought to occur in a number of places, particularly involving the tiny and numerous neurons called “[granule cells](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granule_cell)”: * The cerebellum has pattern-separating granule cells in its “[granular layer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomy_of_the_cerebellum#Granular_layer)” ([ref](http://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-neuro-080317-061948)). And boy are there a lot of them! Adult humans have 50 billion of them—more than half the neurons in your entire brain. * The hippocampus has pattern-separating granule cells in its “[dentate gyrus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dentate_gyrus)”. * The neocortex has pattern-separating granule cells in “layer 4”, its primary (feedforward) input layer. To be clear, some neocortex is called “agranular”, meaning that it lacks this granular layer. But that’s just because not all the neocortex is processing inputs of the type that gets pattern-separated. Some neocortex is geared to outputs instead (details [here](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1569485/)). * The fruit fly nervous system has a “mushroom body” consisting of “[kenyon cells](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenyon_cell)” which are also believed to be pattern-separators—see references [here](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/GnmLRerqNrP4CThn6/dopamine-supervised-learning-in-mammals-and-fruit-flies). ### 2.5.4.3 Why does pattern separation suggest learning-from-scratch? The thing is, pattern separation seems to be a locally random process. What does “locally” mean here? Well, it’s generally not true that any one input is equally likely to be mixed with any other input. (At least, [not in fruit flies](https://elifesciences.org/articles/62576).) I only claim that it involves randomness at a small scale—like, out of this microscopic cluster of dozens of granule cells, exactly which cell connects with exactly which of the nearby input signals? I think the answer to those kinds of questions is: it’s random. Why do I say that it’s probably (locally) random? Well, I can’t be sure, but I do have a few reasons. * From an algorithm perspective, (local) randomness seems like it would work, and indeed has some nice properties, like statistical guarantees about low overlap between sparse activation patterns. * From an information-theory perspective, if there are 50 billion granule cells in an adult cerebellum, I find it pretty hard to imagine that the exact connections to each of them is deterministically orchestrated by the <1GB genome, while still satisfying the various algorithmic and biological constraints. * From an experimental perspective, I’m not sure about vertebrates, but at least in the fruit fly case, genetically-identical fruit flies are known to have different kenyon cell connectivity ([ref](http://doi.org/10.7554/eLife.62576)). Anyway, if pattern-separation is a (locally) random process, then that means that you can’t do anything useful with the outputs of a pattern-separation layer, except by learning to do so. In other words, we wind up with a learning-from-scratch algorithm! (Indeed, one that would stay learning-from-scratch even in the face of evolutionary pressure to micromanage the initial parameters!) 2.5.5 Summary: I don’t pretend that I’ve proven the hypothesis of learning-from-scratch telencephalon and cerebellum, but I’ll ask you to suspend disbelief and read on ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In my own head, when I mash together all the considerations I discussed above (big-picture stuff, neonatal stuff, uniformity, and locally-random pattern separation), I wind up feeling quite confident in my hypothesis of a learning-from-scratch telencephalon and cerebellum. But really, everything here is suggestive, not the kind of definitive, authoritative discussion that would convince every skeptic. The comprehensive scholarly literature review on learning-from-scratch telencephalon and cerebellum, so far as I know, has yet to be written. Don’t get me wrong; I would love to write that! I would dive into all the relevant evidence, like everything discussed above, plus other things like experiments on [decorticate rats](https://twitter.com/markdhumphries/status/1071052762765541376?lang=en), etc. That would be awesome, and I may well do that at some point in the future. (Or reach out if you want to collaborate!) But meanwhile, I’m going to treat the hypothesis as if it were true. This is just for readability—the whole rest of the series will be exploring bigger-picture consequences of the hypothesis, and it would get really annoying if I put apologies and caveats in every other sentence. 2.6 Is my hypothesis consensus, or controversial? ================================================= Weirdly, I just don’t know! This is not a hot topic of discussion in neuroscience. I think most people haven’t even thought to formulate “what parts of the brain learn from scratch” as an explicit question, let alone a question of absolutely central importance. (I heard from an old-timer in the field that the question “what parts of the brain learn from scratch?” smells too much like “nature vs nurture”. According to them, everyone had a fun debate about “nature vs nurture” in the 1990s, and then they got sick of it and moved on to other things! Indeed, I asked for a state-of-the art reference on the evidence for learning-from-scratch in the telencephalon and cerebellum, and they suggested [a book from 25 years ago](https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/rethinking-innateness)! It’s a good book—in fact I had already read it. But c’mon!! We’ve learned new things since 1996, right??) Some data points: * Neuroscientist Randall O’Reilly explicitly endorses a learning-from-scratch neocortex (in agreement with me). He talks about it [here](https://braininspired.co/podcast/88/) (30:00), citing [this paper](http://doi.org/10.1037/0033-295x.98.2.164) on infant face recognition as a line of evidence. In fact, I think O’Reilly would agree with at least most of my hypothesis, and maybe all of it. * I’m also pretty confident that Jeff Hawkins and Dileep George would endorse my hypothesis, or at least something very close to it. More on them in [the next post](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/hE56gYi5d68uux9oM/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-3-two-subsystems-learning-and). * [A commenter](https://twitter.com/Jakob__B/status/1488917179919654913) suggested the book [Beyond Evolutionary Psychology by George Ellis & Mark Solms (2018)](https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Evolutionary-Psychology-Neuropsychological-Modules/dp/1107661412), which (among other things) argues for something strikingly similar to my hypothesis—they list the brain’s “soft-wired domains” as consisting of the neocortex, the cerebellum, and “parts of the limbic system, for instance most of the hippocampus and amygdala, and large parts of the basal ganglia” (page 209). Almost a perfect match to my list! But their notion of “soft-wired domains” is defined somewhat differently than my notion of “learning from scratch”, and indeed I disagree with the book in numerous areas. But anyway, the book has lots of relevant evidence and literature. Incidentally, the book was mainly written as an argument against an “innate cognitive modules” perspective exemplified by [Steven Pinker’s How the Mind Works (1994)](https://www.amazon.com/How-Mind-Works-STEVEN-PINKER/dp/0141980788/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1646678694&sr=1-1). So it’s no surprise that Steven Pinker would disagree with the claim that the neocortex learns from scratch (well, I’m 99% confident that he would)—see, for example, his book [The Blank Slate (2003)](https://www.amazon.com/Blank-Slate-Modern-Denial-Nature/dp/0142003344) chapter 5. * Some corners of computational neuroscience—particularly those with ties to the deep learning community—seem very enthusiastic about learning-from-scratch algorithms in the brain in general. But the discourse there doesn’t seem specific enough to answer my question. For example, I’m looking for statements like “Within-lifetime learning algorithms are a good starting point for understanding the neocortex, but a bad starting point for understanding the medulla.” I can’t find anything like that. Instead I see, for example, the paper [“A deep learning framework for neuroscience”](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-019-0520-2) (by 32 people including Blake Richards and Konrad Kording), which says something like “Learning algorithms are very important for the brain, and sometimes those learning algorithms are within-lifetime learning algorithms, whereas other times the only learning algorithm is evolution.” But which parts of the brain are in which category? The paper doesn’t say. * My vague impression from sporadically reading papers with computational models of the neocortex, hippocampus, cerebellum, and striatum, from various different groups, is that the models are at least often learning-from-scratch models, but not always. In summary, while I’m uncertain, there’s some reason to believe that my hypothesis is not too far outside the mainstream… But it’s only “not too far outside the mainstream” in a kind of tunnel-vision sense. Almost nobody in neuroscience is taking the hypothesis seriously enough to grapple with its bigger-picture consequences. As mentioned above, if you believe (as I do) that “if the telencephalon or cerebellum perform a useful function X, they must have learned to perform that function, within the organism’s lifetime, somehow or other”, then that immediately spawns a million follow-up questions of the form: “How did it learn to do X? Is there a ground-truth that it’s learning from? What is it? Where does it come from?” I have a hard time finding good discussions of these questions in the literature. Whereas I’m asking these questions constantly, as you’ll see if you read on. In this series of posts, I’m going to talk extensively about the bigger-picture framework around learning-from-scratch. By contrast, I’m going to talk relatively little about the nuts-and-bolts of how the learning algorithms work. That would be a complicated story which is not particularly relevant for AGI safety. And at least in some cases, nobody really knows the exact learning algorithms anyway. 2.7 Why does learning-from-scratch matter for AGI safety? ========================================================= Much more on this later, but here’s a preview. The single most important question in AGI safety is: Is the AGI trying to do something that we didn’t intend for it to be trying to do? If no, awesome! This is sometimes called [“intent alignment”](https://ai-alignment.com/clarifying-ai-alignment-cec47cd69dd6). Granted, even with intent alignment, we can’t quite declare complete victory over accident risk—the AGI can still screw things up despite good intentions (see [Post #11](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/BeQcPCTAikQihhiaK/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-11-safety-alignment-but-they)). But we’ve made a lot of progress, and probably averted the worst problems. By contrast, if the AGI istrying to do something that we hadn’t intended for it to be trying to do, that’s where we get into the really bad minefield of catastrophic accidents. And as we build more and more capable AGIs over time, the accidents get worse, not better, because the AGI will become more skillful at figuring out how bestto do those things that we had never wanted it to be doing in the first place. So the critical question is: how does the AGI wind up trying to do one thing and not another? And the follow-up question is: if we want the AGI to be trying to do a particular thing X (where X is “act ethically”, or “be helpful”, or whatever—more on this in future posts), what code do we write? Learning-from-scratch means that the AGI’s common-sense world-model involves one or more big data structures that are built from scratch during the AGI’s “lifetime” / “training”. The stuff inside those data structures is not necessarily human-interpretable[[7]](#fna8zt3dmdbuq)—after all, it was never put in by humans in the first place! And unfortunately, the things that we want the AGI to be trying to do—“act ethically”, or “solve Alzheimer’s”, or whatever—are naturally defined in terms of abstract concepts. At best, those concepts are buried somewhere inside those big data structures. At worst (e.g. early in training), the AGI might not even have those concepts in the first place. So how do we write code such that the AGI wants to solve Alzheimer’s? In fact, evolution has the same problem! Evolution would love to paint the abstract concept “Have lots of biological descendants” with positive valence, but thanks to learning-from-scratch, the genome doesn’t know which precise set of neurons will ultimately be representing this concept. (And not all humans have a “biological descendants” concept anyway.) The genome does other things instead, and later in the series I’ll be talking more about what those things are. 2.8 Timelines-to-brain-like-AGI part 1/3: how hard will it be to reverse-engineer the learning-from-scratch parts of the brain, well enough for AGI? ==================================================================================================================================================== This isn’t exactly on-topic, so I don’t want to get too deep into it. But in [Section 1.5 of the previous post](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/4basF9w9jaPZpoC8R/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-1-what-s-the-problem-and-why), I mentioned that there’s a popular idea that “brain-like AGI” (as defined in [Section 1.3.2 of the previous post](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/4basF9w9jaPZpoC8R/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-1-what-s-the-problem-and-why#1_3_2_What_exactly_is__brain_like_AGI__)) is probably centuries away because the brain is so very horrifically complicated. I then said that I strongly disagreed. Now I can say a bit about why. As context, we can divide the “build brain-like AGI” problem up into three pieces: 1. Reverse-engineer the learning-from-scratch parts of the brain (telencephalon & cerebellum) well enough for AGI, 2. Reverse-engineer everything else (mainly the brainstem & hypothalamus) well enough for AGI, 3. Actually build the AGI—including hardware-accelerating the code, running model trainings, working out all the kinks, etc. This section is about #1. I’ll get back to #2 & #3 in [Sections 3.7 & 3.8 of the next post](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/hE56gYi5d68uux9oM/intro-to-brain-like-agi-safety-3-two-subsystems-learning-and#3_7_Timelines_to_brain_like_AGI_part_2_of_3__how_hard_will_it_be_to_reverse_engineer_the_Steering_Subsystem_well_enough_for_AGI_). Learning-from-scratch is highly relevant here because reverse-engineering learning-from-scratch algorithms is a *way* simpler task than reverse-engineering trained models. For example, think of the [OpenAI Microscope](https://openai.com/blog/microscope/) visualizations of different neurons in a deep neural net. There’s so much complexity! But no human needed to design that complexity; it was automatically discovered by the learning algorithm. The learning algorithm itself is comparatively simple—gradient descent and so on. Here are some more intuitions on this topic: * I think that learning-from-scratch algorithms kinda have to be simple, because they have to draw on broadly-applicable regularities—“patterns tend to recur”, and “patterns are often localized in time and space”, and “things are often composed of other things”, and so on. * Human brains were able to invent quantum mechanics. I can kinda see how a learning algorithm based on simple, general principles like “things are often composed of other things” (as above) can eventually invent quantum mechanics. I can’t see how a horrifically-complicated-Rube-Goldberg-machine of an algorithm can invent quantum mechanics. It’s just so wildly different from anything in the ancestral environment. * The learning algorithm’s neural architecture, hyperparameters, etc. could be kinda complicated. I freely admit it. For example, [this study](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature18933) says that the neocortex has 180 architecturally-distinguishable areas. But on the other hand, future researchers don’t need to reinvent that stuff from scratch; they could also just “crib the answers” from the neuroscience literature. And also, not all that complexity is necessary for human intelligence—as we know from the ability of infants to (sometimes) fully recover from various forms of brain damage. Some complexity might just help speed the learning process up a bit, on the margin, or might help with unnecessary-for-AGI things like our sense of smell. * In Section 2.5.3, I discussed the “cortical uniformity” hypothesis and its various cousins. If true, it would greatly limit the potential difficulty of understanding how those parts of the brain work. But I don’t think anything I’m saying here depends on the “uniformity” hypotheses being true, let alone strictly true. Going back to the question at issue. In another (say) 20 years, will we understand the telencephalon and cerebellum well enough to build the learning-from-scratch part of an AGI? I say: I don’t know! Maybe we will, maybe we won’t. There are people who disagree with me on that. They claim that the answer is “Absolutely 100% not! Laughable! How dare you even think that? That’s the kind of thing that only a self-promoting charlatan would say, as they try to dupe money out of investors! That’s not the kind of thing that a serious cautious neuroscientist would say!!!” Etc. etc. My response is: I think that this is wildly-unwarranted overconfidence. I don’t see any good reason to rule out figuring this out in (say) 20 years, or even 5 years. Or maybe it will take 100 years! I think we should remain uncertain. As they say, “Predictions are hard, especially about the future.” 1. [^](#fnrefljlav0fwh9)I keep saying that “learning from scratch” implies “unhelpful for behavior at birth”. This is an oversimplification, because it’s possible for “within-lifetime learning” to happen in the womb. After all, there should already be plenty of data to learn from in the womb—interoception, sounds, motor control, etc. And maybe [retinal waves](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retinal_waves) too—those could be functioning as fake sensory data for the learning algorithm to learn from. 2. [^](#fnreflvdmy6cdf1t)Minor technicality: Why did I say the input data and supervisory signals for the neocortex (for example) come from outside the neocortex? Can’t one part of the neocortex get input data and/or supervisory signals from a different part of the neocortex? Yes, of course. However, I would instead describe that as “part of the neocortex’s neural architecture”. By analogy, in ML, people normally would NOT say “ConvNet-layer-12 gets input data from ConvNet-layer-11”. Instead, they would be more likely to say “The ConvNet (as a whole) gets input data from outside the ConvNet”. This is just a way of talking, it doesn't really matter. 3. [^](#fnref7fpl6gy64zh)I’m framing this as a “made-up example” because I’m trying to make a simple conceptual point, and don’t want to get bogged down in complicated uncertain empirical details. That said, the bird song thing is not entirely made up—it’s at least “inspired by a true story”. See discussion [here](https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/jrewt3rLFiKWrKuyZ/big-picture-of-phasic-dopamine#Example_2A__Birds_teaching_themselves_to_sing_by_RL) of [Gadagkar 2016](https://science.sciencemag.org/content/354/6317/1278), which found that a subset of dopamine neurons in the songbird brainstem send signals that look like RL rewards for song quality, and those signals go specifically to the vocal motor system, presumably training it to sing better. The missing part of that story is: what calculations are upstream of those particular dopamine neurons? In other words, how does the bird brain judge its own success at singing? For example, does it match its self-generated auditory inputs to an innate template? Or maybe the template is generated in a more complicated way—say, involving listening to adult birds of the same species? Or something else? I’m not sure the details here are known—or at least, I don’t personally know them. 4. [^](#fnrefrnx9x5260t)Why is it called “pattern separation”? It’s kinda related to the fact that a pattern-separator has more output lines than input lines. For example, you might regularly encounter five different “patterns” of sensory data, and maybe all of them consist of activity in the same set of 30 input lines, albeit with subtle differences—maybe one pattern has such-and-such input signal slightly stronger than in the other patterns, etc. So on the input side, we might say that these five patterns “overlap”. But on the output side, maybe these five patterns would wind up activating entirely different sets of neurons. Hence, the patterns have been “separated”. 5. [^](#fnref1ysr55s8x7e) In other examples, I think pattern separation is serving other purposes too, e.g. sparsifying the neuron activations, which turns out to be very important for various reasons, including not getting seizures. 6. [^](#fnrefdspaupkbs5)If you want to dive into the rapidly-growing literature on biologically-plausible backprop-ish algorithms, a possible starting point would be References #12, 14, 34–38, 91, 93, and 94 of [A deep learning framework for neuroscience](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-019-0520-2). 7. [^](#fnrefa8zt3dmdbuq)There is a field of “machine learning interpretability”, dedicated to interpreting the innards of learned-from-scratch “trained models”—[example](https://openai.com/blog/microscope/). I (along with everyone else working on AGI safety) strongly endorse efforts to advance that field, including tackling much bigger models, and models trained by a wider variety of different learning algorithms. Also on this topic: I sometimes hear an argument that a brain-like AGI using a brain-like learning algorithm will produce a relatively more human-interpretable trained model than alternatives. This strikes me as maybe true, but far from guaranteed, and anyway “relatively more human-interpretable” is different than “very human-interpretable”. Recall that [the neocortex has ~100 trillion synapses](https://aiimpacts.org/scale-of-the-human-brain/), and an AGI could eventually have many more than that.
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The Offence-Defence Balance of Scientific Knowledge okay so this paper is called the offense defense balance of scientific knowledge does publishing AI research reduce misuse and the paper is by I see their strange imperfection here but the authors are Toby Shevlin and Alan Defoe and they presented this paper at a conference held in New York in February this year okay one moment good these are the authors and I am I apologize that I've got some alignments wrong these slides I cannot account for that they were too perfect just now but anyway the first author is is chef Lane at the top there and he is that both the authors are at the future of humanity Institute units word and I think that ship lanes specialization is in law he's the guy at the top and the other fella Alan Defoe is the director of the center for the governance of AI at Shi now excuse me I'm just going to have to adjust that you can probably hear that we're applauding the key workers in the background we had noise so this paper is concerned with the balance of offense and defense the balance between two possible effects of disclosing technical technological knowledge either facilitating misuse of the technology or contributing to protections against misuse they say that the balance between the good and bad results of publishing will vary across scientific fields they say that the existing conversation within AI specifically has imported concepts and conclusions from prior debates within computer security specifically with the disclosure of software vulnerabilities and in that field they say that publication of information generally favors defense against misuse and that it's not necessarily appropriate to carry ideas from software security into AI research and that the AI research community should consider concepts and policies from a broad set of adjacent fields and they say that the field of AI is in the midst of a discussion about this topic nowadays and that everybody is concerned about a range of potential misuses including I know this familiar familiar a list of possible abuses using facial recognition for targeting vulnerable populations using synthetic language and video to impersonate human beings and to impersonate them deceptively using algorithmic decision-making which can amplify biases and unfairness using AI in drones to well to disrupt air traffic to launch attacks so those are familiar then they talk about the example of Tex generation and next generation is an area of AI and they say that the discussion of this has been influenced by the discussion of software vulnerabilities in general now recently open AI released there gbt to model of Tex generation caused great stir and they adopted a policy of staged release because of concerns about its potential misuse to mass-produce plausibly human written text this staged release has long been practiced in computer security if somebody spots the floor in a piece of software whether it's the producer of the software or whether it's some outside user this is generally released to the public but after some delay when it's first made available to the producer so the producer can fix it and then the public at large gets to know about it so returning to open I and they release release of GPT two people criticized open I I using such arguments as that malicious actors would find it easy to build their own model anyway so that there was no point in delaying the release of the curve that some knowledge of the possibilities for attack is useful for preparing defenses so that there should have been full disclosure anyway and that's quote security through obscurity unquote is ineffective and I take it that in this context security through obscurity just means um well if you don't talk about if you just keep your software to yourself you keep the code to yourself then nobody else will want to copy it and release it they say that that wouldn't make much sense another piece of software I came up quite recently is called Grover and that was designed to generate disinformation or fake news this was published alongside code for building the model and but and constructing or reconstructing its dataset they don't have mean presumably the dataset had been trained on and the researchers would actually make further information available to anybody who chose to contact one and finally the code and dataset or open sourced intention behind doing this of course was to increase our understanding of AI generation of think news so that we could build tools that could guard against the harm it could do now talking about offense defense amongst technologies generally they say that the field international relations has an existing body of literature on such a balance they actually cite very little but excuse me but one example they cite is by Shapiro and Segal and they analyze when states should publish information even though it might be useful to terrorists for example a government might wonder whether to publish witnesses in commercial nuclear power plants and those authors Shapiro and C will find that it's safer to disclose such information if you think that attackers already hold such knowledge anyway so they don't make not making a difference and it's also safer to disclose it if the government that's disclosing exits always got Munson in the case of nuclear technology if they can use this openness to find and fix weaknesses so I mean there's a to intuitively obvious considerations about when you it might be wise to release such information so our authors chirlane and Defoe want to produce a theoretical framework that covers technologies in general and I suppose other areas of expertise but some technologies in general and they're going to apply it way and I in specifically a bit later and they say the net effect of disclosure on misuse depends on which of the two effects of is stronger the effect of aiding actress wants to cause harm and aiding actors who want to protect others from harm and the balance between those two will be different for different types of disclosure and just before launching into it they say that their analysis is limited in scope only deals with certain consequences of disclosure and they're only talking about harms that are a direct intentional use of the technology they're not talking about cases where technology is used in cautiously or contains a none safety thing so then I'm talking about technological accidents they're not talking about structural risks from technological proliferation such as military and stability or unemployment all those important topics but they are only talking about these deliberate intentional malicious users and their framework does not weigh the benefits of polishing scientific results other than how they relate to security they have a bit more to say about this at the end however so this balance and I'm sorry it you don't look as if you can't see the very last line here but what that last line is saying is therefore our framework should not be the basis for an assessment of publication norms but only one input to such an assessment in other words there is more to a question of polishing than just questions of risk and security um of course if you think that with which with my existential risks you might not agree with that you might think that security is be-all and end-all but they I don't they don't use the phrase existential risk at all in their paper okay some fact now you will what follows begins by being extremely abstract there this is an abstract analysis of benefits and harms and different types of cause and effect but there are a few concrete examples to lighten things up as we go on so don't okay factors where disclosure affects the attackers a capacity to cause harm the first is called counterfactual possession that is a jargon phrase that I thoroughly disliked it just means possession of some piece of knowledge that's achieved independently of being disclosed in other words you think that some bad person out there is going to get this knowledge anyway so you might as well publish so as they say the more likely it is that this will be achieved the less impact the publication won't have another factor that affects the attackers capacity to cause harm is whether potential attacker said well is the fact that potential attackers have three main avenues to achieve so-called counterfactual possession in other words independent possession independent discovery or sharing information amongst themselves and so-called counterfactual publication that is someone else will publish soon so there's no point in holding back and the authors say that we believe these considerations should be excluded from the decision if you're thinking about whether to disclose a piece of knowledge in a I'm set you should discount these factors above instead of considering the impact of an individual decision to publish the researchers should ask what decision would I want rolled out across the whole field in other words they should do what they would be happy for everybody to do in similar situations this is very candy and if you know your Immanuel Kant more factors are affecting an attackers capacity and that is the ability of the attackers to absorb and apply the research and of course this has got a person considering whether to disclose some research it's got to make their own judgments as to what they think potential attackers be able to do with it the attackers attentiveness in convention you know is that it is anybody paying attention nice I assume that in the end nothing nothing goes unnoticed so we've got to assume that everything will be in will be noticed but anyway they say will the research be read and understood by potential attackers this wall so depend on the disclosure itself how much knowledge is disclosed through what channel how has it presented and then answer the question of it is what you presenting sufficient to be used for harm does it contain all that is needed to carry the behavior at the other end of the spectrum adopting the research will involve a large investment in resources and complimentary knowledge in other ways this is a case where it would need a huge effort like for example knowledge to building a nuclear weapon might involve a large investment in resources and complementary knowledge and so you might think that it's safe to publish if you think that that is out of somebody's reach know there's a line missing at the bottom so I'll just look through and see that might be oh yes the last factor which I'm sorry you can't see there my poor skills in making slides the last factor is transferability the ability of knowledge that promotes good ends to be transferred to bad ends moving on there are factors affecting the defenders ability defenders means yeah any anybody who seeking to combat some weakness in technology or some misuse of technology so it could be somebody inside the organization producing the AI material or it could be outsiders users hackers spies and disclosure could aid defenders by disseminating ideas that are useful for finding solutions Orca simply sound an alarm or see some examples of that in a moment success depends on a number of factors once again counterfactual position comes up with once again with the defenders independently to discover or otherwise obtained the knowledge how easily could the defenders have got to that insight themselves with the defenders have already been aware of the problem you don't want to announce a problem which nobody else knows about as a sera me at once again the ability to absorb and apply the information as with the case of bad actors and then if you give the disclosure make the disclosure how many additional individuals or organizations will work on finding a solution you think you can mobilize a lot of people that's an ikemen in favor of disclosing the positive effects of disclosure depend on the potential for a good defense against the misuse is the weakness agent of the fundamental southern system what could a relatively superficial change removing it is the attack that should really say is an attack detective law and its detection sufficient to defend against it or to deter it is detector powerful but it will overwhelm any defenses so even where a solution to some problem with your disclosure exists it might be difficult or costly to propagate that solution that is a factor you have to take into account okay so we're still continuing so at this very high abstract level we'll get more concrete I promise you what sorry so they just talked about the offense defense balance for misuse risks that have a higher potential harm for example of ulnar ability in facebook could be very harmful whereas well virgin a much smaller website would have less consequence so in the case of the higher potential harmless security consequences of disclosure will be amplified and AI researchers confuse to publish more or less of their basic results and their insights or their detailed results their code their data says the train networks they can choose to publish will not publish tools easy-to-use tools that will assist people outside these are things within their control different outputs will differentially benefit different actors so a publication without practical tools or code will be more difficult for low capability attackers and defenders to apply researchers could could attempt to play safe to give their release a defensive bias in other words being cautious like eventually publishing defensive tools and best practice as opposed to no offensive controls and I suppose less than best practice and they can also possibly the most things is that they can attempt to circulate certain oral tools exclusively among the scientific community in other words trying to have a privileged circle with wind with which amongst young you circulate certain knowledge interesting question as to how long that would last or maybe it will just give you enough time to develop some sort of defense against what other people would there now contrast different fields are interested in how a I might different from mother might differ from other fields then they say that that their framework helps to explain why the disclosure of software vulnerabilities will often be beneficial for computer security in other words why disclosure has become the norm with software vulnerabilities one factor is that patches to software are often easy to create and nothing can be made in a matter of weeks so if so fixes are easy to mange generally these patches are fully resolved the vulnerability they can be completely efficient the patch can be easily propagated and independent discovery of the vulnerability is likely so if that's likely then you might as well disclose these factors combined to make their reasonable arguments in favor of public disclosure of software vulnerabilities at least after the vendor has me given time to prepare a patch contrast this with other fields for example biological research into pathogens if you create a new virus and if you release information about its general same reason samples it's difficult to find vaccines against new viruses or treatments against their effects it's it's laborious and success is not guaranteed very contemporary so this lowers the defensive benefit of publication it weakens this argument the public that's you know that knowledge is good public knowledge is good this contrasts with the case where an effective treatment can be developed within a reasonable time period which could weigh in favor of publication they give a couple of examples of vulnerabilities involving hardware they mentioned drones drones are now doing very widespread they used a lot they're sometimes used maliciously they have been used in attacks in the Middle East and I don't know of any physical attacks you know that's an actual war locations but anyway they they presently lack a cheap effective solution according to the authors obviously you can shoot them down but they're very cheap easy to reduce in large numbers and you can't guarantee almost to hit them before they hit their target they also give another analogy which they is sort of them using and interesting in the hardware field it seems a lot of hotels apartment buildings offices and so on still use physical key systems keys individual keys for individual rooms and a master key no planning room I thought everybody was using electronic swipe cards nowadays but apparently not so already stop back in 2003 maybe in 2003 some some ingenious fella published a system in which made it easy for someone to create a master key from a single example of one non master key one room key say he showed how it was possible to make a master key from there and he was kind enough to publish for details everywhere and locksmiths and people who ran large buildings were not used to this at all because is somebody explanted of this information then really only you can do is replace your whole key system with a with a non master key system so your very expensive I don't know if there's been any progress since hand on my combating matter where they just had to give way to it whether everybody's just switch to swipe cards another example of hardware vulnerabilities is the question of whether engineering research nuclear engineering research such as uranium enrichment which is only just one one part of the whole process of making bombs whether that should have been published I don't know if anybody was in fact arguing for publishing it but the reasons that militate against publishing it simply that you increase the ability of a an opponent to make bombs and destroy your own city's nuclear bombs are a technology against which there's no effective defense and that I mean the best-known defense is deterrence those technologies of Defense that do exist would benefit very little from knowing about one piece of the offensive technology such as uranium enrichment for example in other words a blueprint for the design of the centrifuge does not have one build a better defensive bunker so their points here I think is they're saying this is another case where publishing some some information about how to build Center uses centrifuges that's not going to help you build up your own defenses in any way you're not going to get a bunch of hackers coming back and saying okay now this is how this is how you can improve your defense in my only better defensive bump is this recession no connection so this is so that is a consideration against publishing and say they say that if both the potential defender and a potential attacker are given knowledge that helps them build nuclear weapons that knowledge is more useful for making an attack than for protecting against an attack the knowledge is but jargon is offense biased as just to introduce their offense biased although of course there is still the question that you okay so it helps you build it helps the defender build but the talent which is one form of defense okay excuse me right disclosure ones what they're working towards is you know sort of an ethics or codes of practice norms for disclosing or not disclosing in pieces or information and they are saying there are loads of diversions that vary between different fields I'll hurry along a little bit here but they mentioned obviously the Manhattan Project or is very secretive more so than the locksmiths perhaps with some more secretive nowadays more secretive than influenza researchers because they've learned senator sessions tend to to share their their knowledge because currently I guess they're not too concerned about people using their knowledge for biowarfare maybe maybe maybe that will change in the near future anyway these classes of researcher are more secretive than those who find abilities in software they said there was a culture clash between the researcher who published the floor in the master key system and there was the locksmith so huesemann of being irresponsible the different disclosure cultures exist in the form of default practices they're different places in different areas but also in what they call common refrains by which they mean standard phrases or cliches or tropes for example language about the virtues of studying a problem or the value of users being empowered by disclosures to make decisions for themselves they're saying that this sort of language comes a little too easily and we really need to think about it in a specific context such language embeds implicit answers to the questions we raised caution should be exercised when importing concepts and language from other fields okay now they come to discuss AI specifically to the extent that protections against AI misuse required interventions in social systems then publishing AI research will have a more limited defensive benefit oh come on they they have more same of this AI is especially prone to interfering in social systems because AI involves automating activity that normally requires human intelligence the very definition of AI for example or criminals used artificial speech generation to make the voice of the CEO of a company over the telephone this attack exploits the fact that the sound of someone's voice is strong evidence of their identity thus the so called vulnerability here is our practice of relying on people's voices as evidence of their identity this is socially useful it's deeply ingrained practice we we'd hate to not be able to go on doing that excuse me they say it some have responded by suggesting that the research community should simply quote warn Society unquote but individuals may be increasingly shown and worth untrustworthy content but the language of quote let the users decide for themselves unquote which is reminiscent of computer security discourse I'll take the word for it parameters would lose its empowering sentiment if users become landed with problems which no good solution exists in other words they're working towards their conclusion but really the punters are just not in a position to decide for themselves in the field of a high they say our key suggestion is that AI vulnerabilities will be on average harder to patch that software vulnerabilities are and so our high researchers cannot assume that AR publication would always have a defensive bias in other words will not always be for the good now they say a common response is that an AI model that is useful for an attack could similarly be useful for detecting these attacks you recall this was the reason why Grover was published their services to help us learn how to defend ourselves against fake news generated by a I however are our authors so Menand athos a but offensive AI systems can often be trained against detection systems so as to evade them thus when items generated by Grover were pre filtered by the detection system the remaining items were harder to detect as you can imagine that seems extremely plausible so I gather that they generated a whole bunch of same fake news articles they threw them against a detection system presumably also automated couldn't equally be human beings I suppose some some were filtered out and that system but what was left was harder to detect that's not very hard to doubt is it ok so this is one reason for not making the detection system freely available yeah so continuing to apply that framework to AI secondly even in cases where sorry this is following immediately from the previous points you remember people were saying that detection systems in AI can be useful for defending us against malicious AI because obviously not said brokers and therefore the disclosure of detection systems is a good thing they are saying they're continuing by saying another point against this is that even where a detection system can in theory detect the area's activity it may not be feasible to deploy it for example in the particular case of detecting AI generated voices it might require a lot of surveillance of calls a large part of computation and a lot of false positives being thrown up in fragging ordinate conversations okay now there's a discussion of the independent acquisition of AI knowledge and they apply it down to the middle of the page they apply it to the example of text generation and they say but where the risk comes from a big actor a state-led disinformation campaign obviously they're thinking of the alleged Russian think news campaigns in the 2016 US election presidential election which at least half of America is firmly convinced was responsible for the outcome of the election when the risks come from a state-led disinformation campaign one uncertainty is how much these state actors would benefit from the research being disclosed because if not much because they're a big and powerful research organization themselves then the risks of disclosure are less in other words the the costs are less anyway nevertheless this doesn't mean that you can cheerfully disclose secrets of say thank news detection even on the grounds that you know tsunami is it's so well equipped but you're not helping much we have to consider that there are other actors with less access to a I talent and AI compute and there may also perhaps be very few actors outside the AI research community Joe suppose means the respectable Western community in this case there may be people outside capable of having the original insights continuing the paper not so many geniuses out there and so forth in some cases we large technology companies need to prepare defenses okay III won't go on it to unravel that thought I've got I want to push on today conclusion the conclusion is that our analysis should aid AI researchers in thinking critically about implications of publishing work that could be miss EULA's the community should grow is tool lots of analogies and concepts so that disclosure norms can be well-designed I think that's what you could say about this paper that it is talking about analogies and concepts um these are worse like empty boxes into which you can drop specific concrete considerations when you're thinking about a different problem and so they're they're almost talked about the language of this discussion now one challenge they say we'll be building disclosure policies in accordance with the legitimate and effective norm setting process so that's what we're trying to work towards and sort of and I think I suppose you could say of disclosure and not just then I think but also a bunch of agreed agreed policies and principles in connections with disclosure they also point out but the security impact of disclosure is input although it's important it should only be considered on site a host of other considerations in other words everything we've been talking about in this paper I still only one aspect what you should be thinking about when deciding when to disclose sorry that thought at the top is a slightly floating thought and a publication must be able to scale and really adapt a more powerful and capabilities with what the thing is that we must bear in mind well any policy or principle relating to a publication has got to be able to adapt to future more powerful capabilities along we mustn't mean to limited by what we can do today and then go on to say our framework should only be one input to an assessment of publication norms because there are potential quotes non-security benefits scientific publication using include you know overall the normal benefits of open publication contributions to economic growth and the quality of life the advancement of science and its broad societal benefits better monitoring of scientific investments in other words accountability of investment it leads to internationalism and cosmopolitanism next rule minded it leads to greater civilian control and involvement in science and also there are other tools for tackling harmful AI not just regulating disclosure the research community can differentially invest in those projects and tragic trails that I'm a socially beneficial researchers can invest extra effort in understanding and mitigating the potential harmful uses of their research in a place that being responsible researchers from the beginning before they is closed there is not and they can their efforts can include the crafting of norms and policies to steer the use of AI and so that said and that is the end of their framework well thank you very much Chris for your presentation
6ed95d22-17c9-46c0-ba83-055d40d718a3	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	AI Safety Newsletter #37: US Launches Antitrust Investigations Plus, recent criticisms of OpenAI and Anthropic, and a summary of Situational Awareness Welcome to the AI Safety Newsletter by the Center for AI Safety. We discuss developments in AI and AI safety. No technical background required. Listen to the AI Safety Newsletter for free on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. ---------------------------------------- US Launches Antitrust Investigations The U.S. Government has launched antitrust investigations into Nvidia, OpenAI, and Microsoft. The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) and Federal Trade Commission (FTC) have agreed to investigate potential antitrust violations by the three companies, the New York Times reported. The DOJ will lead the investigation into Nvidia while the FTC will focus on OpenAI and Microsoft. Antitrust investigations are conducted by government agencies to determine whether companies are engaging in anticompetitive practices that may harm consumers and stifle competition. Nvidia investigated for GPU dominance. The New York Times reports that concerns have been raised about Nvidia's dominance in the GPU market, “including how the company’s software locks customers into using its chips, as well as how Nvidia distributes those chips to customers.” In the last week, Nvidia has become one of the three largest companies in the world by market capitalization, joining the ranks of Apple and Microsoft, with all three companies having nearly equal valuations. Microsoft investigated for close ties to AI startups. The investigation into Microsoft and OpenAI will likely focus on their close partnership and the potential for anticompetitive behavior. Microsoft's $13 billion investment in OpenAI and the integration of OpenAI's technology into Microsoft's products may raise concerns about the creation of barriers to entry for competitors in the AI market. In addition, the FTC is looking into Microsoft’s deal with Inflection AI, where Microsoft hired the company’s co-founder and almost all its employees, and Microsoft paid $650 million in licensing agreements. In January, the FTC launched a broad inquiry
41ce0b47-dc24-41e1-8e3b-864c4837ddaf	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Open Problems (Inspired by.) Einstein's four fundamental papers of 1905 were inspired by the statement of three open problems in science by Henri Poincaré: > Having earlier failed to get his doctorate in physics, [Einstein] had temporarily given up on the idea of an academic career, telling a friend that "the whole comedy has become boring." [But he] had recently read a book by Henri Poincaré, a French mathematician of enormous reputation, which identified three fundamental unsolved problems in science. The first concerned the 'photoelectric effect': how did ultraviolet light knock electrons off the surface of a piece of metal? The second concerned 'Brownian motion': why did pollen particles suspended in water move about in a random zigzag pattern? The third concerned the 'luminiferous ether' that was supposed to fill all of space and serve as the medium through which light waves moved, the way sound waves move through air, or ocean waves through water: why had experiments failed to detect the earth’s motion through this ether? Each of these problems had the potential to reveal what Einstein held to be the underlying simplicity of nature. Working alone, apart from the scientific community, the unknown junior clerk rapidly managed to dispatch all three. His solutions were presented in four papers, written in the months of March, April, May, and June of 1905. A few years earlier, David Hilbert had published 23 open problems in mathematics, about half of which were solved during the 20th century. More recently, Timothy Gowers has used his blog to promote open problems in mathematics that might be solved collaboratively, online. After just seven weeks, the first problem was "probably solved," resulting in some published papers under the pseudonym 'D.H.J. Polymath.' The Clay Mathematics Institute offers a $1 million prize for the solution to any of 7 particularly difficult problems in mathematics. One of these problems has now been solved. In 2006, researchers defined 14 open pr
225d60c0-8aff-454b-b0a7-4df1097cf624	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	larger language models may disappoint you [or, an eternally unfinished draft] what this post is The following is an incomplete draft, which I'm publishing now because I am unlikely to ever finish writing it. I no longer fully endorse all the claims in the post. (In a few cases, I've added a note to say this explicitly.) However, there are some arguments in the post that I still endorse, and which I have not seen made elsewhere. This post is the result of me having lots of opinions about LM scaling, at various times in 2021, which were difficult to write down briefly or independently of one another. This post, originally written in July 2021, is the closest I got to writing them all down in one place. -nost, 11/26/21 ---------------------------------------- 0. caveat This post will definitely disappoint you. Or, anyway, it will definitely disappoint me. I know that even though I haven't written it yet. My drafts folder contains several long, abandoned attempts to write (something like) this post. I've written (something like) this post many times in my head. I just can't seem to get it right, though. The drafts always sprawl out of control. So, if I can't do it right, why not do it wrong? Here's the disorganized, incomplete, brain-dump version of the better post I wish I were writing. Caveat lector. 1. polarization The topic of this post is large language models (LMs) like GPT-3. Specifically, what will happen as we make them larger and larger. By my lights, everyone else seems either too impressed/scared by the concept of LM scaling, or not impressed/scared enough. On LessWrong and related communities, I see lots of people worrying in earnest about whether the first superhuman AGI will be a GPT-like model. Both here and in the wider world, people often talk about GPT-3 like it's a far "smarter" being that it seems to me. On the other hand, the people who aren't scared often don't seem like they're even paying attention. Faced with a sudden leap in machine capabilities, they shrug. Faced with a simple recipe that can
6c697451-db28-4c9d-b5a0-601b20b19772	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	What can you teach us? In a recent thread, SarahC said: > I'd prefer more posts that aim to teach something the author knows a lot about, as opposed to an insight somebody just thought of. Even something less immediately related to rationality -- I'd love, say, posts on science, or how-to posts, at the epistemic standard of LessWrong. ... so here's the place to float ideas around: is there an area you know a lot about? A topic you've been considering writing about? Here's the place to mention it! From a poll on what people want to see more of, the most votes went to: * Statistics * Game Theory * Direct advice for young people * General cognitive enhancing tools (such as Adderall and N-Back) * Information Theory * Economics Some that got less votes: * Data visualization * (Defence against the) Dark Arts * Moral Philosophy (looks like that's being done already) * Postmodernism * Getting along in an irrational world * Existential risks * Medicine, Applied Human Biology ... but there are certainly many more things that would be interesting and useful to the community. So what can you teach us?
23db9301-1092-4074-8ab2-8634e8801e32	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Resolving moral uncertainty with randomization This is a crosspost from the EA forum Problems with maximizing expected choice-worthiness A popular approach to moral uncertainty is "maximizing expected choice-worthiness" (MEC) by William MacAskill. However, it has some issues. 1. It requires theories to be interval-scale measurable. This means that a theory needs to provide information about the ratio of difference in choice-worthiness between different options. E.g. Stoicism says that the difference between lying and killing is ten times bigger than the difference between being honest and lying. 2. It requires intertheoretic comparisons of value. We need to be able to tell to what extend one theory deems an option as more important than another option, when compared to a different theory. E.g. Utilitarianism says the moral difference between lying and killing is three times bigger than Kantianism says it is. 3. It falls prey to the infectiousness of nihilism. When an agent has positive credence in nihilism then the choice-worthiness of all actions is undefined. E.g. If you think nihilism has 1% chance of being true, you can't evaluate one option as morally better than another. 4. Some say it has a problem with fanaticism. It ranks a minuscule probability of an arbitrarily large value above a guaranteed modest amount of value. E.g. If you think christianity has a 1% chance of being true, and it gives people infinite happiness in heaven, you should choose it above your 99% chance that utilitarianism is true, which only posits finite happiness. Two years ago one of us created an approach that wouldn't fall prey to these problems: the sortition model of moral uncertainty. Problems with the sortition model of moral uncertainty The sortition model prescribes that if you have x% credence in a theory, then you follow that theory x% of cases. If you have 20% credence in Kantianism, 30% credence in virtue ethics and 50% credence in utilitarianism, you follow Kantianism 20% of t
8f2f4659-eaf8-41d3-98b7-8dda4c6ea7fa	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Meetup : West LA—R:AZ Part C, Noticing Confusion Discussion article for the meetup : West LA—R:AZ Part C, Noticing Confusion WHEN: 08 April 2015 07:00:00PM (-0700) WHERE: 11066 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles, CA How to Find Us: Go into this Del Taco. We will probably be in the back room. Parking is free in the lot out front or on the street nearby. Discussion: We will be discussing Part C of Rationality: From AI to Zombies. You are welcome to join us even if you have not done the reading. However, the reading is very good, and it is free, and you should read it. We will be discussing roughly one part per week for a total of 26 weeks. Recommended Reading: * Part C, Noticing Confusion (pages 79-114), Kindle locations 1647-2137) * Kim Øyhus's proof that absence of evidence is evidence of absence * Privileging the Hypothesis * Uncertainty and Confidence * Confidence Levels Inside and Outside an Argument * That Tiny Note of Discord No prior exposure to Less Wrong is required, nor is the reading required, only strongly recommended. Discussion article for the meetup : West LA—R:AZ Part C, Noticing Confusion
9d00e1e3-fb2a-45ec-a9e3-8967158a5997	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Chapter 11: Omake Files 1, 2, 3 Hail the Dark Lord Rowling. "Omake" is a non-canonical extra. ---------------------------------------- OMAKE FILES #1: 72 Hours to Victory (A.k.a. "What Happens If You Change Harry But Leave All Other Characters Constant") Dumbledore peered over his desk at young Harry, twinkling in a kindly sort of way. The boy had come to him with a terribly intense look on his childish face - Dumbledore hoped that whatever this matter was, it wasn't too serious. Harry was far too young for his life trials to be starting already. "What was it you wished to speak to me about, Harry?" Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres leaned forward in his chair, smiling grimly. "Headmaster, I got a sharp pain in my scar during the Sorting Feast. Considering how and where I got this scar, it didn't seem like the sort of thing I should just ignore. I thought at first it was because of Professor Snape, but I followed the Baconian experimental method which is to find the conditions for both the presence and the absence of the phenomenon, and I've determined that my scar hurts if and only if I'm facing the back of Professor Quirrell's head, whatever's under his turban. While it could be something more innocuous, I think we should provisionally assume the worst, that it's You-Know-Who - wait, don't look so horrified, this is actually a priceless opportunity -" ---------------------------------------- OMAKE FILES #2: I Ain't Afraid of Dark Lords This was the original version of Chapter 9. It was replaced because - while many readers did enjoy it - many other readers had massive allergies to songs in fanfics, for reasons that should not much need belaboring. I didn't want to drive readers away before they got to Ch. 10. Lee Jordan is the fellow prankster of Fred and George (in canon). "Lee Jordan" had sounded like a Muggleborn name to me, implying that he would be capable of instructing Fred and George on a tune that Harry would know. This was not as obvious to some readers as it was to your author
ce8ef504-5403-429f-a943-448034108e53	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Weekly LW Meetups This summary was posted to LW Main on September 5th. The following week's summary is here. Irregularly scheduled Less Wrong meetups are taking place in: * Bratislava: 08 September 2014 06:00PM * Copenhagen - September: This Wavefunction Has Uncollapsed: 13 September 2014 03:00PM * Houston, TX: 13 September 2014 02:00PM * Michigan Meetup: 07 September 2014 02:00PM * Urbana-Champaign: Practical Rationality: 07 September 2014 02:00PM * Utrecht: Improve your productivity: 06 September 2014 02:00PM * Utrecht: Debiasing techniques: 21 September 2014 02:00PM * Utrecht: Effective Altruism and Politics: 05 October 2014 02:00PM * Utrecht: Artificial Intelligence: 19 October 2014 02:00PM * Utrecht: Climate Change: 02 November 2014 03:00PM The remaining meetups take place in cities with regular scheduling, but involve a change in time or location, special meeting content, or simply a helpful reminder about the meetup: * Austin, TX: 06 September 2025 01:30PM * [Cambridge MA] Prediction Markets and Futarchy: 07 September 2014 03:30PM * Canberra: Akrasia-busters!: 13 September 2014 06:00PM * [Melbourne] September Rationality Dojo - Fixed and Growth Mindset: 07 September 2014 03:30PM * Moscow Meetup: Codename Felix: 14 September 2014 10:11PM * Sydney Rationality Dojo - Habits: 07 September 2014 04:00PM * Sydney Meetup - September: 24 September 2014 06:30PM * Vienna - Superintelligence: 27 September 2014 03:00PM Locations with regularly scheduled meetups: Austin, Berkeley, Berlin, Boston, Brussels, Buffalo, Cambridge UK, Canberra, Columbus, London, Madison WI, Melbourne, Moscow, Mountain View, New York, Philadelphia, Research Triangle NC, Seattle, Sydney, Toronto, Vienna, Washington DC, Waterloo, and West Los Angeles. There's also a 24/7 online study hall for coworking LWers. If you'd like to talk with other LW-ers face to face, and there is no meetup in your area, consider starting your own meetup; it's easy (more resources here). Check one out, stretch your
e9f84215-4e84-49c9-a9c1-9ef0115a4811	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Send me your photos of LessWrongers having fun! The Singularity Institute is preparing a booklet for LessWrong meetup organizers called How to Run a Successful Less Wrong Meetup Group. Right now what we need are your photos of LessWrongers doing things and having fun! If you have photos you don't mind us potentially using in How to Run a Successful Less Wrong Meetup Group, please email them to luke@intelligence.org. Thanks!
309e383a-3a66-4286-a5eb-1a97e27c2f60	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	Merry Sciencemas: A Rat Solstice Retrospective > I TAKE this blog very seriously. > > My half-dozen readers are counting on me for accurate, unbiased takes on Bay Area culture—a genuine read on the pulse of the collective consciousness. So when a friend invited me to the 2024 Secular Winter Solstice festival, I knew I had to deliver some serious boots-on-the-ground reporting of the event. > > I wouldn't consider myself a "rationalist" by any means, despite my profoundly autistic qualities. Nor do I sympathize with the "post-rationalist" navel-gazing endemic to the theater kid slash hippie types. No, it feels we've taken a specific moment in 2019 and churned it into a gray paste. None of it appeals to me. If I were to aspire to a label I would be a romantic—I want to feel things—but it's hard to wring poetry out of a life fixed to a monitor, so like most boring people I turn to chemical enhancement.
8869c405-97bd-489a-a630-71e9b9a635cf	trentmkelly/LessWrong-43k	LessWrong	I don't think MIRI "gave up" Disclaimer: I haven't run this by Nate or Eliezer, if they think it mischaracterizes them, whoops. I have seen many people assume MIRI (or Eliezer) ((or Nate?)) has "given up", and been telling other people to give up. On one hand: if you're only half paying attention, and skimmed a post called "Death With Dignity", I think this is a kinda reasonable impression to have ended up with. I largely blame Eliezer for choosing a phrase which returns "support for assisted suicide" when you google it. But, I think if you read the post in detail, it's not at all an accurate summary of what happened, and I've heard people say this who I feel like should have read the post closely enough to know better. Eliezer and "Death With Dignity" > Q1: Does 'dying with dignity' in this context mean accepting the certainty of your death, and not childishly regretting that or trying to fight a hopeless battle? > > Don't be ridiculous. How would that increase the log odds of Earth's survival? The whole point of the post is to be a psychological framework for actually doing useful work that increases humanity's long log odds of survival. "Giving Up" clearly doesn't do that. [left in typo that was Too Real] [edited to add] Eliezer does go on to say: > That said, I fought hardest while it looked like we were in the more sloped region of the logistic success curve, when our survival probability seemed more around the 50% range; I borrowed against my future to do that, and burned myself out to some degree. That was a deliberate choice, which I don't regret now; it was worth trying, I would not have wanted to die having not tried, I would not have wanted Earth to die without anyone having tried. But yeah, I am taking some time partways off, and trying a little less hard, now. I've earned a lot of dignity already; and if the world is ending anyways and I can't stop it, I can afford to be a little kind to myself about that. I agree this means he's "trying less heroically hard." Someo

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