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In article <19APR93.15421177@skyfox> howp@skyfox writes:
>Hi.
> I am considering the purchase of a 1984 Honda 1000cc Interceptor for
>$2095 CDN (about $1676 US). I don't know the mileage on this bike, but from
>the picture in the 'RV Trader' magazine, it looks to be in good shape.
>Can anybody enlighten me as to whether this is a good purchase? Is it a
>good bike? This will be my first bike. (I realize that, for a beginner,
>1000cc is considered too be a bit too much bike. I have heard from friends
>that were once beginners that if they had to start all over again that they
>would have started with a bigger bike. One just has to be careful and not
>drive outside their skill level.)
> I had considered (and posted about two weeks ago) the purchase of 1982
>600cc Yamaha Seca Turbo with 33000 km, but I am a little wary now about the
>prospect of having to deal with a turbo (both on the road and in the shop). I
>may still consider this bike (the price dropped from $1300 to $1100 CDN), but
>the Honda seems to be a good bike.
>
> Comments?
>
One word "HEAVY". It steers heavy, turns require alot of effort. Hard to get
access to the large V-4 motor. Weak/small front forks with anti-dive gizmos!
AT
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In <1993Apr24.214843.10940@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu
(E. Elizabeth Bartley) writes:
>I can certainly see opposing the "Amen" -- but that doesn't require
>opposing a moment of silence.
I already responded to this on one dimension, but afterthoughts cause
me to make another, independent reply. The problem with a "moment of
silence" is that it is NOT an even-handed way of "allowing" for religion
amongst students in the public schools. As I noted before, Muslims need
more than a moment of silence in order to perform the prayers they are
required by Muhammad to do. And (at least Orthodox) Jewish prayer also
has requirements that are not addressed by this.
There is, in fact, a highly selective BIAS towards Christian prayer in
this "moment of silence" shit. And that is especially bizarre in that
Christian prayer DOESN'T NEED this stuff -- a Christain may pray totally
incognito AT ANY TIME (to some extent, this is true of Muslims and Jews
as well -- what I intend in my first paragraph is that there *are* some
characteristic forms of prayer in *these* religions which DO need special
times and/or behavior, which cannot be undertaken without an observer
being able taking note of it.)
A Christian may pray, at ANY time -- silently and without any trace of
his activity being evident to others. That may or may not be true of the
other religious traditions amongst us: certainly, these tend to have SOME
forms of prayer that WOULD evidence differences from American/Protestant
"mainstream" religion.
All that a "moment of silence" does is to allow THAT ONE tradition which
doesn't NEED it, to have a "special" place set aside in the public schools.
There is NOTHING in Christian prayer that requires public forms, or rugs,
or phylacteries, or anything else at all visible to the outside world. A
Christian student MAY (and probably does) pray at innumerable times during
the day, without anyone else knowing it. [That may also be true of non-
Christians -- I am not claimng otherwise]. In the "moment of silence" it
would STILL be difficult for the Jews to gather and daven, for the Muslims
to do their ablutions and find qiblah to Mecca and engage in the prescribed
forms. But *of course* Christians can do *their* thing -- and therefore,
the provision is nothing but a disguised attempt to encourage just that.
Luckily, there *is* a strong Jewish presence in this country (and I, as
a Christian, revere some of the Jewish teachers I had in public schools),
and a growing Muslim presence as well. I can only hope that the political
forces consequent on this will PREVENT the imposition of Christian forms
on non-Christians.
As far as I can see (as a Christian) there is NOTHING in this "moment of
silence" campaign but an attempt to use PUBLIC social pressure to FORCE
children to adhere to a pattern that is biased towards Christianity. And
as a Christian, I *must* protest such coercion. For what it's worth, I
suspect that the coercion is not really targeted at the non-Christians --
it is yet another case of FAILURE amongst Christian parents in "making"
their children prayerful, so that they want the public schools to teach
what THEY cannot manage to teach, despite having all the opportunity in
the world to do so.
If you have taught your children to pray, they do NOT need a moment of
silence in school. If you have NOT managed to teach them, the moment
will only embarrass you. Give it up.
--
Michael L. Siemon I say "You are gods, sons of the
mls@panix.com Most High, all of you; nevertheless
- or - you shall die like men, and fall
mls@ulysses.att..com like any prince." Psalm 82:6-7
| 19talk.religion.misc |
I'm working upon a game using an isometric perspective, similar to
that used in Populous. Basically, you look into a room that looks
similar to the following:
xxxx
xxxxx xxxx
xxxx x xxxx
xxxx x xxxx
xxxx 2 xxxx 1 xxxx
x xxxx xxxx x
x xxxx xxxx x
x xxxx o xxxx x
xxxx 3 /|\ xxxx
xxxx /~\ xxxx
xxxx xxxx
xxxx xxxx
xxxx
The good thing about this perspective is that you can look and move
around in three dimensions and still maintain your peripheral vision. [*]
Since your viewpoint is always the same, the routines can be hard-coded
for a particular vantage. In my case, wall two's rising edge has a slope
of 1/4. (I'm also using Mode X, 320x240).
I've run into two problems; I'm sure that other readers have tried this
before, and have perhaps formulated their own opinions:
1) The routines for drawing walls 1 & 2 were trivial, but when I ran a
packed->planar image through them, I was dismayed by the "jaggies." I'm
now considered some anti-aliasing routines (speed is not really necessary).
Is it worth the effort to have the artist draw the wall already skewed,
thus being assured of nice image, or is this too much of a burden?
2) Wall 3 presents a problem; the algorithm I used tends to overly distort
the original. I tried to decide on paper what pixels go where, and failed.
Has anyone come up with method for mapping a planar to crosswise sheared
shape?
Currently I take:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32
33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48
49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64
and produce:
1 2 3 4
33 34 35 36 17 18 19 20 5 6 7 8
49 50 51 52 37 38 39 40 21 22 23 24 9 10 11 12
53 54 55 56 41 42 43 44 25 26 27 28 13 14 15 16
57 58 59 60 45 46 47 48 29 30 31 32
61 62 63 64
Line 1 follows the slope. Line 2 is directly under line 1.
Line 3 moves up a line and left 4 pixels. Line 4 is under line 3.
This fills the shape exactly without any unfilled pixels. But
it causes distortions. Has anyone come up with a better way?
Perhaps it is necessary to simply draw the original bitmap
already skewed?
Are there any other particularly sticky problems with this perspective?
I was planning on having hidden plane removal by using z-buffering.
Locations are stored in (x,y,z) form.
[*] For those of you who noticed, the top lines of wall 2 (and wall 1)
*are* parallel with its bottom lines. This is why there appears to
be an optical illusion (ie. it appears to be either the inside or outside
of a cube, depending on your mood). There are no vanishing points.
This simplifies the drawing code for objects (which don't have to
change size as they move about in the room). I've decided that this
approximation is alright, since small displacements at a large enough
distance cause very little change in the apparent size of an object in
a real perspective drawing.
Hopefully the "context" of the picture (ie. chairs on the floor, torches
hanging on the walls) will dispell any visual ambiguity.
Thanks in advance for any help.
--
Till next time, \o/ \o/
V \o/ V email:pinky@tamu.edu
<> Sam Inala <> V
| 1comp.graphics |
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* LymeNet Newsletter *
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Volume 1 - Number 09 - 4/26/93
I. Introduction
II. Announcements
III. News from the wires
IV. Questions 'n' Answers
V. Op-Ed Section
VI. Jargon Index
VII. How to Subscribe, Contribute and Get Back Issues
I. ***** INTRODUCTION *****
In this issue of the Newsletter, we learn of the CDC's announced concern for
the "resurgence of infectious diseases" in the United States. Thanks to
Jonathan Lord for sending me the UPI release. The CDC announced they would
feature a new series of articles in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly
Report on these infectious diseases (LD is one of them). We will keep you
up to date on this series.
In addition, we feature a The Wall Street Journal article on the legal issues
surrounding LD. We also look at Lyme's effects from the perspective of
urologists in an abstract entitled "Urinary Dysfunction in Lyme Disease."
Finally, Terry Morse asks an intriguing question about a tick's habitat.
-Marc.
II. ***** ANNOUNCEMENTS *****
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Sender: Jonathan Lord <jml4s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu>
Subject: RESURGENCE OF INFECTIOUS DISEASE CONCERNS CDC
Date: Thursday April 15, 1993
ATLANTA (UPI) -- A resurgence of infectious diseases blamed on newly
emerging viruses and bacteria pose a major challenge for the nation's
health care system, federal health officials said Thursday.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reporting its latest
findings in an investigation of contaminated hamburger meat that
sickened hundreds in 4 states and killed at least four, said it will
put renewed emphasis on battling infectious diseases.
Part of that emphasis includes a new series titled "Emerging
Infectious Diseases" to be featured in the CDC's Morbidity & Mortality
Weekly Report, which has a wide circulation in the health community.
The issue also will top the agenda of a two-day meeting of scientific
counselors to update the CDC's draft plan for dealing with the growing
threat of infectious ailments.
"This is an issue that has been coming and we do have a responsibility
to deal with it," said Dr. Ruth Berkelman, deputy director of the CDC's
National Center for Infectious Diseases.
There were more cases of malaria in the U.S. in 1992 than in any year
since the 1960s, and Latin America is experiencing a cholera epidemic,
the first in this century, she said.
Resistance of disease-causing agents to antibiotics is also a problem.
"We are seeing much more antibiotic resistance than we have in the past"
Berkleman said. She said even common ear infections frequently seen in
children are becoming resistant to antibiotic treatment.
"Despite predictions earlier this century that infectious diseases
would soon be eliminated as a public health problem, infectious diseases
remain the major cause of death worldwide and a leading cause of illness
and death in the United States," the CDC said.
It cited the emergence since the 1970s of a "myriad" of newly
identified pathogens and syndromes, such as Escherichia coli O157:H7, a
deadly bacterial infection; the hepatitis C virus; HIV, the virus that
causes AIDS; Legionnaires disease; Lyme disease; and toxic shock syndrome.
"The incidences of many diseases widely presumed to be under control,
such as cholera, malaria and tuberculosis, have increased in many areas,"
the CDC said. It said efforts at control and prevention have been
undermined by drug resistance.
=====*=====
SOURCE: WALL STREET JOURNAL
REFERENCE: 04/15/93, pB1
HEADLINE: Lyme-Disease Ruling Raises Liability Issues
The tick that causes Lyme disease may have found a new way to cause
damage: legal liability.
A federal judge's decision holding a property owner liable for not
doing enough to protect workers from Lyme disease is getting as much
attention as the latest medical study on the disease, a flu-like
illness that can cause severe physical and mental disabilities and in
rare instances death. The decision last week has put property owners
on notice that they may have to do more than protect themselves from
the ticks-they also may have to protect themselves from litigation if
someone becomes infected while on the property.
The decision by U.S. District Judge Robert J. Ward in New York came
after a week-long trial in a case involving four track workers for the
Long Island Railroad. Judge Ward found that the workers contracted the
disease after they were bitten by ticks while on the job. He ordered
the New York state-owned commuter line to pay the workers more than
$560,000 to compensate for pain and suffering, in addition to medical
expenses and lost wages.
Summer camps, schools, companies with facilities in rural or
semirural areas, and homeowners who rent to vacationers are among the
groups that need to be worried about this ruling, says Stephen L.
Kass, an attorney at New York law firm Berle, Kass & Case, who wrote a
legal article three years ago warning property owners of the potential
liability. Even a family that invites friends over for a backyard
barbecue might be potentially liable.
Lawsuits for insect bites, while rare, aren't unheard-of. A summer
vacationer in Southampton, N.Y., last year sued the owner of the home
she rented, claiming that a tick on the property gave her Rocky
Mountain spotted fever. In 1988, also on Long Island, a jury ordered
an outdoor restaurant to pay more than $3 million to a patron who was
stung by a bee, causing an allergic reaction and permanent
quadriplegia. The judge later threw out the award, citing no evidence
that a beehive was near the restaurant.
But lawyers say that the attention to Lyme disease throughout the
country -- it's most prevalent in New England, the Middle Atlantic
states, Wisconsin, Minnesota and the Northwest -- may make this
particular insect bite a particularly litigious one.
The illness already has proved to be a source of controversy in the
courtroom over such issues as the type of medical care insurers will
cover and medical malpractice claims against doctors for not
diagnosing the disease.
Lawyers say worker's-compensation claims related to Lyme disease
have become common in some states in recent years. Payments in
worker's-compensation cases, however, are limited to medical costs and
lost earnings.
The case before Judge Ward dealt with a potentially much more
lucrative avenue for damages, because it involved the question of
negligence. Unlike the worker's compensation process, the law governing
injuries to rail workers allows for a finding of negligence and, as a
result, for additional payments for pain and suffering. Property
owners and lawyers say that negligence claims can be made in many
other situations where people are exposed to the ticks that carry the
disease.
Ira M. Maurer, a partner at New York law firm Elkind, Flynn &
Maurer, who represented the rail workers, says the decision will help
to establish "the duty of all sorts of property owners to protect
against Lyme disease."
Lawyers caution that despite Judge Ward's decision, winning a
lawsuit for damages caused by Lyme disease may prove difficult. For
one thing, victims have to demonstrate that they have pinned down when
and where they got the tick bite. Judge Ward found that the plaintiffs
in the railroad case got Lyme disease while working on property owned
by the railroad, even though none of the men remembered being bitten.
The workers, who weren't outdoorsmen likely to be exposed elsewhere to
the insects, said they saw ticks in the high grass that surrounded
some work sites.
A spokeswoman for the railroad says that there was no proof that
the four men were bitten while on the job and that the railroad is
considering an appeal. The railroad also disputes Judge Ward's finding
that it didn't do enough to protect employees. The spokeswoman says
the railroad provides track workers with insect repellent and special
pants to protect against bug bites.
Debate in the scientific community over Lyme disease could open up
some legal defenses for property owners, such as questioning whether a
victim actually has the disease rather than some other illness.
Earlier this week, the Journal of the American Medical Association
reported that doctors overly diagnose patients as having Lyme disease.
And damages awarded to a victim also might be influenced by medical
disputes over the degree of harm that Lyme disease causes.
Because of health and safety concerns, some groups and companies
already take special measures to protect against Lyme disease. Last
year, at its headquarters in Franklin Lakes, N.J., Becton, Dickinson &
Co. began using Damminix, a pesticide made by EcoHealth Inc. of Boston
that is designed to kill ticks carrying the disease. The medical-
supply company's headquarters include a 120-acre park, and the company
was worried that employees who walk on its trails for recreation might
get infected.
Ruth Lister, a spokeswoman for the American Camping Association in
Indianapolis, says that many youth camps accredited by her
organization also have begun to check children for ticks. And Carole
Katz, a member of the board of the Fire Island Pines Property Owners
Association, says her group spends $30,000 each year to treat their
100-acre site off the coast of New York with the tick-killing
pesticide.
=====*=====
TITLE: Urinary dysfunction in Lyme disease.
AUTHORS: Chancellor MB; McGinnis DE; Shenot PJ; Kiilholma P; Hirsch IH,
Department of Urology, Jefferson Medical College, Thomas Jefferson
University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
REFERENCE: J Urol 1993 Jan; 149 (1): 26-30
Lyme disease, which is caused by the spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi, is
associated with a variety of neurological sequelae. We describe 7 patients
with neuro-borreliosis who also had lower urinary tract dysfunction.
Urodynamic evaluation revealed detrusor hyperreflexia in 5 patients and
detrusor areflexia in 2. Detrusor external sphincter dyssynergia was not
noted on electromyography in any patient. We observed that the urinary tract
may be involved in 2 respects in the course of Lyme disease: 1) voiding
dysfunction may be part of neuro-borreliosis and 2) the spirochete may
directly invade the urinary tract. In 1 patient bladder infection by the
Lyme spirochete was documented on biopsy. Neurological and urological
symptoms in all patients were slow to resolve and convalescence was
protracted. Relapses of active Lyme disease and residual neurological
deficits were common. Urologists practicing in areas endemic for Lyme
disease need to be aware of B. burgdorferi infection in the differential
diagnosis of neurogenic bladder dysfunction. Conservative bladder
management including clean intermittent catheterization guided by urodynamic
evaluation is recommended.
IV. ***** QUESTIONS 'N' ANSWERS *****
Note: If you have a response to this question, please forward it to the
editor.
Sender: Terry Morse <morset@ccmail.orst.edu>
Subject: Question on Lyme Vectors and Compost Piles
When I visited my sister on Long Island, NY, I was cautioned to avoid the
compost heap in her back yard, as she thinks this is where she became
infected.
A friend of mine here in Oregon who has a compost heap would like me to
back that claim up with documentation. Do lyme-carrying ticks hang out in
compost heaps?
Thank you.
V. ***** OP-ED SECTION *****
This section is open to all subscribers who would like to express an opinion.
VI. ***** JARGON INDEX *****
Bb - Borrelia burgdorferi - The scientific name for the LD bacterium.
CDC - Centers for Disease Control - Federal agency in charge of tracking
diseases and programs to prevent them.
CNS - Central Nervous System.
ELISA - Enzyme-linked Immunosorbent Assays - Common antibody test
EM - Erythema Migrans - The name of the "bull's eye" rash that appears in
~60% of the patients early in the infection.
IFA - Indirect Fluorescent Antibody - Common antibody test.
LD - Common abbreviation for Lyme Disease.
NIH - National Institutes of Health - Federal agency that conducts medical
research and issues grants to research interests.
PCR - Polymerase Chain Reaction - A new test that detects the DNA sequence
of the microbe in question. Currently being tested for use in
detecting LD, TB, and AIDS.
Spirochete - The LD bacterium. It's given this name due to it's spiral
shape.
Western Blot - A more precise antibody test.
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| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr19.200740.17615@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> nchan@nova.ctr.columbia.edu (Nui Chan) writes:
>
>has anybody implements an RPC server in the HP Xwindows? In SUN Xview, there
>is a notify_enable_rpc_svc() call that automatically executes the rpc processes
>when it detects an incoming request. I wonder if there is a similar function in
>HP X/motif that perform the same function.
>
I've been using the xrpc package for about a year now. I believe I got it from
export.
--
===============================================================================
Ian Hogg ianhogg@cs.umn.edu
(612) 424-6332
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C5t05K.DB6@research.canon.oz.au> enzo@research.canon.oz.au (Enzo Liguori) writes:
>Now, Space Marketing
>is working with University of Colorado and Livermore engineers on
>a plan to place a mile-long inflatable billboard in low-earth
>orbit. NASA would provide contractual launch services. However,
>since NASA bases its charge on seriously flawed cost estimates
>(WN 26 Mar 93) the taxpayers would bear most of the expense. This
>may look like environmental vandalism, but Mike Lawson, CEO of
>Space Marketing, told us yesterday that the real purpose of the
>project is to help the environment! The platform will carry ozone
>monitors he explained--advertising is just to help defray costs.
How could this possibly be "environmental vandalism" when there is no
"environment" to vandalize up there?
Since the advertising "is just to help defray costs", it's certainly no
surprise that "the taxpayers would bear most of the expense". Sounds
like a good idea to me, since the taxpayers would bear _all_ of the
expense if they didn't do the advertising.
>What do you think of this revolting and hideous attempt to vandalize
>the night sky?
Great idea, they should have done it long ago.
>What about light pollution in observations? (I read somewhere else that
>it might even be visible during the day, leave alone at night).
I can't believe that a mile-long billboard would have any significant
effect on the overall sky brightness. Venus is visible during the day,
but nobody complains about that. Besides, it's in LEO, so it would only
be visible during twilight when the sky is already bright, and even if
it would have some miniscule impact, it would be only for a short time
as it goes zipping across the sky.
>Are protesting groups being organized in the States?
No doubt. People are always looking for something to protest about, so
it would be no surprise.
>Really, really depressed.
Well, look on the, er, bright side. Imagine the looks on the faces of
people in primitive tribes out in the middle of nowhere as they look up
and see a can of Budweiser flying across the sky... :-D
--
Jeff Cook Jeff.Cook@FtCollinsCO.NCR.com
| 14sci.space |
It took someone THIS long to figure that out?
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1rrhi9INN2bq@ceti.cs.unc.edu> John Eyles, jge@cs.unc.edu
writes:
Friend's unpleasant experience uring CT scan deleted
>Is there anything I can do about these pigs ?
I'd suggest writing a detailed letter about the incident to the
hospital administrator. Specify the date and time. If possible the
names of the technicians.
Send a copy to the clinician under whose care your friend was
admitted. I say this because, though your friend has no argument
with the doctor, I have found that administrators sometimes ignore
complaints until the patient becomes litigious. Clinicians may not
have been informed of the complaint and are very surprised to find
themselves named in a suit.
If there is no response within a week send a follow up letter.
Attach a photocopy of the original letter. Do this weekly until you
do get a response.
CAT scans are non-invasive but they can be very scary. The scanner
can be a bad place for the claustrophobic. There was an interesting
study in the BMJ, about 10 years ago, which found that around 10% of
people who had CAT scans found it so unpleasant that they would
never have another. This compares with 15% who said the same about a
lumbar puncture.
Don Mackie - his opinions
| 13sci.med |
In article <rcstage1.132.735807672@urc.tue.nl> rcstage1@urc.tue.nl (Guido Klemans) writes:
[stuff about hardware keys]
>If you put another computer on the port instead of the key, you can hack
>them by reading what happens. So I've been told, I've never seen this done
>but I think it's possible. You'd need some hardware knowledge and some
>software to read the port!
True, which is why many of the newer keys ship out, oh, maybe 32 bits or
so, have the key encrypt them, and return them to the PC. Making a bunch
of these 32 bits part of your program code is a good way to make sure
things won't run without the key. :-) Anyway, then, this scheme at least
defeats your approach. It's a little costly, though.
Personally, I don't believe in copy protection, and agree with the thought
that the mass inconvenience that it causes all legal users far outweighs
the gains from what few pirates won't be able to copy the program.
---Joel Kolstad
| 12sci.electronics |
Do you know if there is an airport nearby? They may just be markers
to tell pilots of small planes that there are power lines nearby.
/Joe
| 12sci.electronics |
I recently sold my Nighthawk in order to upgrade to a zippy little sport
bike. I am, however, partial to the bigger zippy bikes like the GSX-R 750.
There is only one in my town for sale, and he is not sure whether he wants
to part with it or not!
Please send me email if you would like to sell yours, know of one for sale,
or could just offer details on the performance of yours even if you wouldn't
sell.
I appreciate any help!
THE HYPEMAN
--
1983 Pontiac 2000 SE 1986 Mercury Topaz GS Looking for a bike!
'BABY BOOOM' 'MRS. BABY BOOOM' GSX-R 750/1100 ??
UNDER MODIFICATION Under Construction CBR 600f2 ??SHE Likes!
'HIS' 'HERS' VFR750F ??
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <1993Apr29.102341.13820@comp.lancs.ac.uk>
julian@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Julian G. Self) writes:
|> Wasn't the shareware fee a "suggestion" by John?
|> Is so then it's up to the individual to make the choice whether or not to
|> honour it and part with money. Personally if I was in his position I would
|> do exactly the same thing, John has obviously put in lot of time and effort
|> into xv and why shouldn't he receive some money for it.
|>
|> Just my pennies worth
|>
|> (Keep up the good work John)
The fee is a suggestion for an individual but licensing is mandatory
for commercial, government, and institutional users. I wonder how many
users of xv own the system that it runs on.
--
Michael Salmon
#include <standard.disclaimer>
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Stockholm
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C4vs0G.5ux@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, dgj2y@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (David Glen Jacobowitz) writes:
|> >>Can someone out there explain exactly what the 'trigger'
|> >>feature found on oscilloscopes does?
|> >
|> { lots og good explanation deleted}
<lots more deleted>
|> Is it just me, or does anybody else out there NOT like digital
|> scopes. My school has some beauutful 100Mhz HP that are digital with
|> all the bells and whistles, including soft-keys, which I think are a
|> loveley touch. ( that is, software keys. ) You don't forget that you
|> are dealing with a computer. Those scopes even with all their
|> neatness, still make the ickyest looking waves. Lotsa features, but
|> ugly output. And those are the best digitals I have ever seen. I've
|> seen a lot of cheaper digitals and they look terrible.
I think the hangup with digital scopes is that you have to know so much
more about them and how they work on a scope-by-scope basis, and
some of the functions are typically presented, in my opinion,
in a counter-intuitive fashion (HP has made some strides in their
54600 series, IMO). Automatic setups are fine for simple,
repetitive waveforms, but can give you some crazy results on more
complex events where you need to understand how the scope is
actually measuring/processing the event. For example, is the scope
in "equivalent time" or in "real time" sampling mode (equivalent time
being a mode where samples are built-up slowly by adding a delay to
the trigger event each sweep)? What was the scope's actual sampling
rate at the time? How is the data being massaged after capture but
before display, etc. One common misconception is the speed of the scope.
Is the HP scope you're using really a 100 MHz scope? Or is it a 20 MHz
sample rate scope (~5 MHz single shot significance) whose front
end including S/H can support 100 MHz waveforms (important for
equivalent time sampling)? The 100 MHz input in this case really
only helps you when your waveform is repetitive, or on a single
sample, when you get lucky and hit a transient event during a sample time.
So, there are a lot more variables in understanding how to get
useful information from a digital scope. I prefer an analog scope for
general use and the digital for events where I need storage for
later analysis or comparison, when the event is within the capability
of the scope. Now, for the price of true 100 MHz digital scopes to
fall...
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| 12sci.electronics |
I originally posted a complaint about how noisy my PC was. I got several
useful suggestions, but 1 was the most seductive: run your PC in silence by
removing the fan altogether!
Two variables:
1) I always run my PC without the cover, and
2) I'd be willing to attach a CPU cooler if that would make a difference.
Should I try to run my PC without a fan? I know it sounds like utter folly so
I'm asking - has anyone done this succesfully? Or tragically? You're answer
may save my PC... Thanks.
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <Clarke.6.735328328@bdrc.bd.com> Clarke@bdrc.bd.com (Richard Clarke) writes:
>So how do I steer when my hands aren't on the bars? (Open Budweiser in left
>hand, Camel cigarette in the right, no feet allowed.) If I lean, and the
>bike turns, am I countersteering? Is countersteering like benchracing only
>with a taller seat, so your feet aren't on the floor?
>
>-Rick
Now, while I wouldn't recommend doing this while moving,
(Maybe Mike Beaverton can complain to you awhile! :/ )
you might not want to countersteer if you're just sitting
in the driveway...
<sounds of Rick falling off bike, muttering, "Damn, coulda
sworn that's how they told me in the MSF course!!?" >
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
I repair a lot of monitors here, and I'd like to know where I can get a
pattern generator (or a circuit for one) that will provide MDA, EGA and VGA
signals. Using a whole PC to do this takes up too much space on my bench, and
is somewhat less than portable. I guess I could sit down and design something,
but I don't have the time right now - any (reasonable) suggestions would be
appreciated.
TNX
TG
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Biomedical Engineering Services keeper, unless you have room to
University of Auckland entertain an elephant."
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr17.192947.11230@sophia.smith.edu> orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes:
>In article <C5n3x0.B5L@news.cso.uiuc.edu> osprey@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Lucas Adamski) writes:
>>This may be a fairly routine request on here, but I'm looking for a fast
>>polygon routine to be used in a 3D game.
>
> A fast polygon routine to do WHAT?
To draw polygons of course. Its a VGA mode 13h (320x200) game, done in C and
ASM. I need a faster way to draw concave polygons that the method I have right
now, which is very slow.
//Lucas.
| 1comp.graphics |
>Be as cooperative with the police as possible! Show them where you were.
>Repeat your information as often as requested. They will often ask you the
>same questions over and over to verify facts, and ,unfortunately, to see
>if your lying. Fill out all statements and show all required identification
>and weapon permits (BOOO! Down with registered citizens!Register your
>politicians as deadly tax weapons needing to be confiscated!) If they are
>required in your state. Contact a lawyer immediately if they decide to
>
This would have to be a call. You are not required to say anything until you
have a lawyer present, and not saying anything until such time is not to be
construed as derogatory to your cause. Anything you DO say can later be used
against you. You will be talking to the police, the same people who will be
gathering evidence for the prosecutor to use against you.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
>[I think you're talking about the "assumption of the Blessed Virgin
>Mary". It says that "The Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin
>Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed
>body and soul into heavenly glory." This was defined by a Papal
>statement in 1950, though it had certainly been believed by some
>before that. Like the Immaculate Conception, this is primarily a
>Roman Catholic doctrine, and like it, it has no direct Biblical
>support. Note that Catholics do not believe in "sola scriptura".
>That is, they do not believe that the Bible is the only source of
>Christian knowledge. Thus the fact that a doctrine has little
>Biblical support is not necessarily significant to them. They believe
>that truth can be passed on through traditions of the Church, and also
>that it can be revealed to the Church. I'm not interested in yet
>another Catholic/Protestant argument, but if any Catholics can tell us
>the basis for these beliefs, I think it would be appropriate. --clh]
In the Bible, there are a lot of instances where God speaks
to people, where a person just "came to know" some piece
of information, where a person walks off into the desert
for "40 days", etc. With all of God's power He certainly can
do whatever He wants when He wants it. The Bible "ends"
with the book of Revelations. But does God's reign end there ? No.
So who can say for sure that God's messages are either no longer
happening or still happening ?
I can now hear the clamor for proof. 8-)
With the cold response I've gotten from the past from this
group, it's very hard to get the point across. I'll only
go over the physical stuff so that skeptics can look
at documents stored somewhere. I've cited the uncorrupted
bodies of saints before. They're still there. 8-)
The apparitions at Fatima, Portugal culminated in a miracle
specifically granted to show God's existence. That was
the spinning/descending of the sun. It was seen in several
countries. That event is "approved" by the Pope. Currently,
images of Mary in Japan, Korea, Yugoslavia, Philippines, Africa
are showing tears (natural or blood). These are still under
investigation by the Church. But realize that investigations
take decades to finish. And if the message is Christ will come
in ten days, that's a bit too late, isn't it 8-).
Other events under investigation are inner locutions ("coming
to know"), stigmata (the person exhibits Christ's wounds. And
they don't heal. And doctor's don't know why).
Non-believers are welcome to pore through documents, I'm sure.
This stuff is not like Koresh. Or Oral Roberts (give me $5M
or God will call me home). It's free. Find out why they're
happening (as we ourselves are studying why). If anybody
can figure this out, tell us ! You can be of any religion.
If you have the resources, go to one of the countries I mentioned.
These are not "members only" events. God and Mary invites
everybody.
So in conclusion (finally) ...
We RC's believe in the modern day manifestations of God and Mary.
We are scared to death sometimes although we're told not to.
There are more proofs and events. And that is why "not everything
is in the Bible". Although in a lot of the apparitions, we are told
to read the Bible.
As far as the Protestant vs. Catholics issue is concerned...
In the end, God's churches will unite. I'm not sure how.
I have some idea. But the point is we shouldn't worry
about the "versus" part. Just do God's work. That's all
that matters. Unity will come.
BTW, I'm just a plain person. I'm not the Pope's spokesperson.
But I am RC.
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
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roughly the same as in the Elvira games, though the real time
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especially Elvira II: Jaws of Cerberus made it very tough to
stay alive and hit-point restoring was very difficult. This
is not to say that Waxworks is a walk in the park, but it is
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The really interesting thing about this game is that it is really
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and pods, while the local humans have been transformed into plant
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the very tuff plant zombies that are always showing up. This is
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Jack The Ripper England where you appear by the corpse of a fresh Ripper
victim, and of course the police think you are responsible. You must
avoid police and angry mobs to unravel the mystery of The Ripper and
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Over all the VGA graphics and music are very effective in setting a
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I heartily recommend it for RPG and Horror fans.
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| 6misc.forsale |
Greetings!
Situation: I have a phone jack mounted on a wall. I don't
know the number of the line. And I don't want
to call up the operator to place a trace on it.
Question: Is there a certain device out there that I can
use to find out the number to the line?
Thanks for any response.
Al
| 12sci.electronics |
[From Kalat, J.W.. (1992): _Biological Psychology_. Wadsworth Publishing Co.
Belmont, CA. Pg. 219. Reproduced without permission.]
Digression 6.1: Miracle Berries and the Modification of Taste Receptors
Although the _miracle berry_, a plant native to West Africa is practically
tasteless, it temporarily changes the taste of other substances. Miracle
berries contain a protein, _miraculin_, that modifies sweet receptors in
such a way that they can be stimulated by acids (Bartoshuk, Gentile,
Moskowitz, & Meiselman, 1974). If you ever get a chance to chew a miracle
berry (and I do recommend it), for about the next half an hour all acids
(which are normally sour) will taste sweet. They will continue to taste
sour as well.
Miraculin was, for a time, commercially available in the United States as a
diet aid. The idea was that dieters could coat their tongue with a miraculin
pill and then eat and drink unsweetened, slightly acidic substances. Such
substances would taste sweet without providing many calories.
A colleague and I once spent an evening experimenting with miracle berries.
We drank straight lemon juice, sauerkraut juice, even vinegar. All tasted
extremely sweet. Somehow we forgot how acidic these substances are. We
awoke the next day to find our mouths full of ulcers.
[... continued discussion of a couple other taste-altering substances ...]
Refs:
Bartoshuk, L.M., Gentile, R.L., Moskowitz, H.R., & Meiselman, H.L. (1974):
Sweet taste induced by miracle fruit (_Synsephalum dulcificum_).
_Physiology & Behavior_. 12(6):449-456.
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Anyone ever hear of these things or know where to get them?
-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu
| 13sci.med |
In article <30976@galaxy.ucr.edu> raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu (Raffi R Kojian) writes:
>Serdar,
The above explained propaganda which certainly has nothing to do with
the true facts is also today the main source of ASALA/SDPA/ARF terrorists'
illegal activities that still try to make money out of the bodies of
the innocent victims of the Turkish genocide.
The criminal acts of the x-Soviet Armenian Government come directly
under the scope of the Convention on Genocide adopted by the General
Assembly of the United Nations on December 8, 1948, containing the
following provisions:
The Contracting Parties, having considered the declaration made
by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its Resolution
95 (1) dated December 11, 1946, that genocide is a crime under
international law, contrary to the spirit and aims of the United
Nations and condemned by the civilized world;
Recognizing that in all periods of history genocide has inflicted
great losses on humanity; and
Being convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such odious
scourge, international cooperation is required;
Members agree as hereinafter provided:
Article 1. The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether
committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under
international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.
Article 2. In the present Convention genocide means any of the
following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or
in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:
A) Killing member of the group;
B) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
C) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life
calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole
or in part;
D) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
E) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group;
Article 3. The following acts shall be punishable:
a) Genocide
b) Conspiracy to commit genocide
c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide
d) Attempt to commit genocide.
Article 4. Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts
enumerated in Article 3 shall be punished, whether they are
constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private
individuals.
Had the Convention on Genocide existed before the Armenian
massacres of the Turks and Kurds, it would probably have been
difficult for the x-Soviet Armenian Government and its responsibles
to start murdering of civilian, defenseless, faithful Ottoman
citizens, children and women, (GENOCIDE AND ATTEMPT TO GENOCIDE),
to make plans to exterminate, as they have done also to Urartus
and Jews, faithful Ottoman citizens (CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT GENOCIDE),
to incite Armenians to armed revolt against the legal authority
and to commit Genocide, (DIRECT AND PUBLIC INCITEMENT TO COMMIT
GENOCIDE).
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1483500360@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>I am born in Palestine (now Israel). I have family there. The lack of
>peace and utter injustice in my home country has affected me all my life.
Bullshit. You've been in Iceland for the past 30 years. You told us
so yourself. It had something to do with not wanting to suffer the
fate of your mother, who has lived with Jews for a long time or
somesuch. Sounded awful.
>I am concerned by Palestine (Israel) because I want peace to come to
>it. Peace AND justice.
Are you as concerned about peace and justice in Palestine (Jordan)?
>Israeli trights and Palestinian rights are not symmetrical. The first
>party has a state and the other has none. The first is an occupier and
>the second the occupied.
Let's say that Israel grants the PLO _EVERYTHING THEY EVER ASKED FOR_.
That Israel goes back to the 1967 borders. What will the "Palestinean
Arabs" in Tel-Aviv call themselves? The Palestineans in West
Jerusalem? In Haifa? Will they still claim to be "occupied"?
Or do you suggest that Israel expell or kill off any remaining Arabs,
much as the Arabs did to their Jews?
Indeed, there is much which is not symmetrical about the conflict in
the M.E. And most of this lack of symmetry does NOT favor Israel.
>Elias Davidsson
>Iceland
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American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
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| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Hi !
I am using Xview 3.0 on a Sparc IPX under Openwindows along with a XVideo board
from Parallax which enables me to use 24 bit color. I am having some problems
utilizing the 24 bit color and would greatly appreciate any help in this matter.
I use Xview to create a Frame and then create a canvas pane inside which I use
to display live video. My video input is 24 bit color.
The problem is that my top level frame created as
frame = (Frame) xv_create(NULL,FRAME,NULL);
seems to have a depth of 8 which is propagated to my canvas.
I would like to know how I can set the depth of the frame to be 24 bits.
I tried using the following Xlib code :
XVisualInfo visual_info;
int depth = 24;
Colormap colormap;
XSetWindowAttributes attribs;
unsigned long valuemask = 0;
Window *win;
Xv_opaque frame;
win = xv_get(frame,XV_XID);
XMatchVisualInfo(display,screen,depth,TrueColor,&visual_info);
/* So far so good */
colormap = XCreateColormap(display,win,visual_info,AllocNone);
/* It dies here with a BadMatch error :( */
attribs.colormap = colormap;
valuemask |= CWColormap;
XChangeWindowAttributes(display,w,valuemask,&attribs);
XSetWindowColormap(display,win,colormap);
Am I using a completely wrong approach here ? Is it possible to set the depth
and colormap for a window created by Xview ? What am I doing wrong ?
Thanks in advance for any help that I can get. I would prefer a response via
email although a post on the newsgroup is also okay.
Thanks again,
Alok.
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11414 Fairchild Road, #2, Cleveland, OH 44106
Off - (216) 368-8871 Res - (216) 791-1261, email - amathur@alpha.ces.cwru.edu
| 5comp.windows.x |
gnb@baby.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond) writes:
>In article <C5v9Lr.KxF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes:
> [re: voyages of discovery...]
> Could you give examples of privately funded ones?
>If you believe 1492 (the film), Columbus had substantial private
>funds. When Columbus asked the merchant why he put the money in, the
>guy said (slightly paraphrased) , "There is Faith, Hope and Charity.
>But greater than these is Banking."
>--
Heck, some of his ships were loaners. One was owned by a Basque...
(you know, one of those groups that probably crossed the Atlantic
_before_ Columbus came along).
>Gregory Bond <gnb@bby.com.au> Burdett Buckeridge & Young Ltd Melbourne Australia
> Knox's 386 is slick. Fox in Sox, on Knox's Box
> Knox's box is very quick. Plays lots of LSL. He's sick!
>(Apologies to John "Iron Bar" Mackin.)
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pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|Like how the ancient Mayans had televison." Repo Man
| 14sci.space |
mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) writes:
mjs>Secondly, it is the adhesion of the
mjs>tyre on the road, the suspension geometry and the ground clearance of the
mjs> motorcycle which dictate how quickly you can swerve to avoid obstacles, and
mjs>not the knowledge of physics between the rider's ears. Are you seriously
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
mjs>suggesting that countersteering knowledge enables you to corner faster
mjs>or more competentlY than you could manage otherwise??
egreen@east.sun.com writes:
ed>If he's not, I will.
Hey Ed, you didn't give me the chance! Sheesh!
The answer is, absolutely!, as Ed so eloquently describes:
ed>Put two riders on identical machines. It's the
ed>one who knows what he's doing, and why, that will be faster. It *may*
ed>be possible to improve your technique if you have no idea what it is,
ed>through trial and error, but it is not very effective methodology.
ed>Only by understanding the technique of steering a motorcycle can one
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ed>improve on that technique (I hold that this applies to any human
ed>endeavor).
Herein lies the key to this thread:
Kindly note the difference in the responses. Ed (and I) are talking
about knowing riding technique, while Mike is arguing knowing the physics
behind it. It *is* possible to be taught the technique of countersteering
(ie: push the bar on the inside of the turn to go that way) *without*
having to learn all the fizziks about gyroscopes and ice cream cones
and such as seen in the parallel thread. That stuff is mainly of interest
to techno-motorcycle geeks like the readers of rec.motorcycles ;^),
but doesn't need to be taught to the average student learning c-steering.
Mike doesn't seem to be able to make the distinction. I know people
who can carve circles around me who couldn't tell you who Newton was.
On the other hand, I know very intelligent, well-educated people who
think that you steer a motorcycle by either: 1) leaning, 2) steering
a la bicycles, or 3) a combination of 1 and 2. Knowledge of physics
doesn't get you squat - knowledge of technique does!
Mr. Bill
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <1993Apr22.094851.27323@physchem.ox.ac.uk>
mark@physchem.ox.ac.uk (Mark Jackson) writes:
>
> In article <1993Apr19.195301.27872@oracle.us.oracle.com>,
ebosco@us.oracle.com (Eric Bosco) writes:
> >
> > I have a 486sx25 computer with a 105 Mg Seagate IDE drive and a
controler
> > built into the motherboard. I want to add a SCSI drive (a quantum
prodrive
> > 425F 425 MG formatted). I have no documentation at all and I need your
> > help!
> >
> > As I understand it, here is the process of adding such a drive. Could
you
> > please tell me if I'm right..
> >
> > 1- Buy a SCSI contoler. Which one? I know Adaptec is good, but they
are
> > kind of expensive. Are there any good boards in the $100 region? I
want
> > it to be compatible with OS2 and Unix if possible. Also, I have seen
on
> > the net that there are SCSI and SCSI2 drives. Is this true? Does the
> > adapter need to be the same as the drive? What type of drive is the
> > quantum?
>
>
> I have tried others, but I think that the Adaptec is best value for
money.
>
>
> > 2- connect the drive to the adapter via a SCSI cable and the power
cable.
> > Do i have to worry about the power supply? I think I have 200 watts
and
> > all I'm powering are two floppies and the seagate drive.
>
>
> I dont think you can mix the two types of drive, unless you have one of
the
> SCSI/IDE cards that is available. You will have to turn your IDE off.
>
Is this true??? I was under the impression that people on the net had both
SCSI and IDE working together.
>
> > Well that seems to be all. Is there anythiing I'm forgetting?
> > Any help is *really* appreciated, I'm lost...
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> > ebosco@us.oracle.com
> --
> Mark
>
__________________________________________________________________________
____
> mark@uk.ac.ox.physchem
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1r0m89$r0o@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>In article <1qvu33$jk3@kyle.eitech.com> ekr@kyle.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>#In article <1quokn$c49@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>#>In article <1qktbg$bmh@squick.eitech.com> ekr@squick.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>#>#No, I don't see what the popularity of a value has to do with whether
>#>#it is objective or not. Pls. explain.
>#>If almost all people agree that the sun exists (in the usual, uncritical sense),
>#>and almost all people agree that a deal is bad, it's a reasonable
>#>conclusion that the sun really does exist, and that the deal really is bad.
>#I disagree completely. Until rather recently, most people did not
>#believe in evolution or the possibility of the atom bomb. Popular
>#opinion is notoriously wrong about matters of fact.
>True, but nevertheless the basis of all "matters of fact" is overwhelming
>popular opinion, and some overwhelming popular opinion *is* fact ("the
>sun shines"). If it were not so, physics would be a personal matter,
>assumed to be different for each of us. There would be YourGravity and
>MyGravity and no theoretical framework to encompass them and predict
>both.
This is simply complete nonsense. The basis for 'matters of fact' is,
if any class of opinion, the majority of INFORMED popular opinion
for some value of informed. I would really hate to base my knowledge
of, for instance, QM on what the overwhelming popular opinion is.
>about *raw* observations ("the dial reads 1.2") matter, in other words, though
>they can surely be mistaken (or even lying) there too ("I saw the statue
>move!"). Getting to theories from raw facts is certainly error-prone, but
>one assumes that the raw facts are usually as reported, otherwise science
>is impossible.
Opinions about 'raw facts' as you call them are somewhat different
than interpretations of those raw facts.
>Now I take an experience of good/evil to be every bit as raw a fact as an
>experience of pain, or vision.
That might seem like a good first pass guess, but it turns out to
be a pretty cruddy way to look at things, because we all seem to
have rather different opinions (experiences) about what is good
and evil, while we seem to be able to agree on what the meter says.
> For me, an ethical standard can be nothing
>more than a hypothesis about the modification of observed value through
>human actions ("It will be better if..." == "You ought").
See above. We can't seem to agree on what's better.
> In that context,
>then I see the choice as being between scepticism, relativism, and
>objectivism. IMO, the existence of supermajority experiences of
>good (life, freedom, truth, peace, love, intelligence) testifies that
>objectivism is true for fundamental values - and this in turn is weak
>evidence that objective ethics may be possible.
I don't see that it's any evidence at all.
As I point out above, I'm really not interested very much in
what the popular opinion is. I'm prepared to trust--to some extent--
the popular opinion about direct matters of physical observation
because by and large they accord with my own. However, if everyone
else said the dial read 1.5 and it looked like a 3 to me, I would
hope that I would believe myself. I.e. believing other people about
these matters seems to have a reasonable probability of predicting
what I would believe if I observed myself, but the possibility exists
that it is not. Since I know from observation that others disagree
with me about what is good, I believe I can discount popular opinion
about 'good' from the beginning as a predictor of my opinion.
I would say that the fact that it seems almost impossible to get
people to agree on what is good in a really large number of situations
is probably the best evidence that objective morality is bogus, actually.
>#>#> I don't think I'm way off beam in saying that "something is
>#>#>better than nothing" is a rational and objective valuation.
>#>#Nope. No tetanus is better than tetanus.
>#>I was referring to the situation at hand, in which "something is better than
>#>nothing " is a rational valuation for any disinterested observer, not
>#>making a general observation on all situations. But you knew that.
>#No, I didn't. I assumed you were merely making a generalization
>#which you hadn't thought through very carefully. You're not much of
>#a mind-reader, Frank.
>Nor are you, it seems. (cf. "I assumed..." above).
Perhaps true, but I didn't make assertions about what you believed.
You did.
-Ekr
--
Eric Rescorla ekr@eitech.com
Would you buy used code from this man?
| 0alt.atheism |
In a previous article, demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) says:
> Evidently it was Janet's concern for the babies being slapped by Koresh
>that made her give the go-ahead for the ram-n-gas tactics. :(
>
Larry King Live was both telling and sickening. Every other word
out of Janet REno's mouth was "the little children" ,etc. Sounded
like Clinton talking. She made claims that the children were
beaten, etc, DESPITE the pronouncements of social workers that none
of the children who left the compound were abused. But the REAL
crime:
Larry King, and his censored show. NOT ONE FUCKING QUESTION
about Reno's possible error. Just two calls about how she
had made a "good decision". Now, it doesn't take a rocket
scientist to figure out that SOME people are going to be upset.
Nope. No real questions at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <HOLCOMB.93Apr19073907@wgermany.ctron.com> holcomb@ctron.com (Edgar W. Ii Holcomb) writes:
>In article <Apr.18.12.24.26.1993.19337@remus.rutgers.edu> wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu (ray wilmott) writes:
>
> Hi all. A while back I was asking for info about a few different
> models, the Grand Am being one of them. Response was generally
> favorable; one thing often repeated was "go for the V6 for some
> real power". Point well taken, but...does anybody have any input
> on the 4 cylinders (both the standard OHC, and the "Quad 4")?
>Ray,
>
>The High-Output Quad 4 delivers 175 hp (185 for the WF41 Quad 4), whereas
>the 3.1L V6 offered in the Grand Am delivers 140 hp. I own a Beretta GTZ
ooppss...the v6 in the grand am is the 3.3. litre, not the 3.1. the 3.3 is
a downsized version of buicks 3.8 litre v6. the 3.1 v6 goes in the beretta
and corsica.
| 7rec.autos |
In article <93108.155839PTS102@psuvm.psu.edu> <PTS102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
[Pitt vs. Penn State controversy deleted]
>
>Bringing this back to alt.atheism relevance: So the guy says we're going to
>Hell. That isn't sufficient cause to bitch to the system operator. At worst,
>it's bad etiquette. (Unless you really believe that someone is using his
>account without his knowledge/permission, which is actually against the law.)
>-----
>Patrick Saxton "Pitt is a second-rate school in a second-rate city."
>pts102@PSUVM.psu.edu - anon
>pts@ecl.psu.edu ob.atheism: "In Batman we Trust"
>
No. It wouldn't be sufficient cause to bitch to the system operator if this
was just some guy saying that atheists are going to hell. The point was
that recently many messages were posted from that address. Each of these
messages was posted to a different newsgroup, with the apparent intent of
provoking the readers of that particular group. This, along with the fact
that these posts were written in all-caps, makes these posts suspect.
Whoever is using this account is using it irresponsibly. If it is the
intended user, they should consider appropriate action. If it is someone
else-- which seems a possibility, then this is also reason to report it.
We get many posts in the flavor of the one that started this thread.
It is only because I have seen posts on other groups by this user that I
am considering action.
Brendan
| 0alt.atheism |
I currently use a window manager called ctwm which
is very similar to hp's vuewm. (i.e.
it has multiple workspaces). Is there a
motif based window manager that has this
same feature and is not a memory pig like vue?
mike
--
Michael L Coe | "A mind is a terrible thing."
Laboratory of Applied Logic |
University of Idaho |
coe@leopard.cs.uidaho.edu |
coe861@snake.cs.uidaho.edu
| 5comp.windows.x |
{Send follow ups to comp.sys.mac.advocacy. Sorry about the header but the
Pnews here does not let one easily change the headers and I gave up after a
year of trying. This sheet is also available by FTP on sumex-aim.stanford.edu
(36.44.0.6) in the info-mac/report as mac-ibm-compare177.txt.}
Mac & IBM Info-Version 1.7.7
The reason for this general data sheet is to consolidate and condense the
information out there, so that people in both camps can be clear and accurate
about what they are saying about their machines. Since computer technology
is always changing there are always going to be points in which the sheet will
be lacking or incorrect on information. So, please just don't say the sheet
is incomplete or incorrect but also give me clear and concise information to
make the needed corrections. All prices are in US dollars.
To keep this data sheet organized please provide, if possible, article
citations for the information provided or corrected and keep the opinions to
a minimum. As this is a general data sheet, keep the info provided simple so
I can understand what is being talked about and can explain it to others.
Finally, keep the information relevant to the section corrected {For example,
OS code in ROM is software contained in hardware, so no more of the 'but it
is supported in OS disk software' data for the hardware section, please}.
Thank you.
Note: for proper reading off line this document should be in 9 point Monaco.
Special thanks to ANDREW@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Chihuahua Charlie),
andrew@frip.wv.tek.com (Andrew Klossner), bell-peter@YALE.EDU (Peter Bell),
bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman), cj00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl B Jabido), d88-
jwa@nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte) ephraim@Think.COM (Ephraim Vishniac),
fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat), gsidler@cafe.eecs.nwu.edu
(Gabriel Sidler), julian@deepthnk.kiwi.gen.nz (Julian Harris),
Erick.Krueger@um.cc.umich.edu, krueger@engin.umich.edu,
matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy), mark@bilpin.co.uk (Mark Allerton),
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim), mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu (Mel
Martinez), nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou), pwagner%us.oracle.com,
s_fuller@iastate.edu, strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl),
jkirvin@pafosu1.hq.af.mil, phill@ichips.intel.com,
shaikha@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu, sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu (Jay C. Beavers), Lewis
Kawecki@novell.com, lamont@catfish16.rtsg.mot.com (Bradley Lamont),
cerro@mbcl.rutgers.edu ("Cerro, Joseph A"), mpark@utmem1.utmem.edu (Mel Park),
logullo@applelink.apple.com (Jeff Logullo), zrai02@hou.amoco.com (Robert
Irlbeck), and mikew@apple.com for providing some of the information that made
this list possible.
Contents
CPUs
Hardware
Monitor support
Expansion
Operating system
OS Number Crunching
Networking & Printing
The CPUs
Note: I am only showing Motorola & Intel CPUs used in Mac and most IBM/PC
clone machines. For example, since Apple never used the Motorola 68008 and
68010 in the Mac these chips are not listed. Years only appear with dead CPUs
and indicate first to last year used as a CPU.
Cache note: both IBM and Mac use caches external to the CPUs. These external
caches increase the speed of the CPU but are not a part of it. In most of
the present Macs there are external caches built-in while with IBM they are
optional {Though machines are generally sold with them installed}. Since
there are many different external caches {CPU-Mac and IBM; SCSI, video, disk
and static RAM-Mac}, each having a different effect on CPU performance, and
they are machine {32KB static RAM cache in IIci, IIfx, and IIvx}, seller
{cache card installed in some IIcis} or expansion {IIci cache cards go up to
128KB} dependent, I have decided to leave them out of the list.
Note: ALU is industry's de-facto standard for CPU bit classification.
IBM ALU Registers External CPU Features/
CPU bus address cache Notes
8088(6) 16 16 8 (16) 20 none {1981-9} {198?-9}
80186 16 16 16 20 none {198?-9?} segmenting
80286 16 16 16 24 none 80186 + Protected Mode
80386 32 32 32 32 none MMU & 32-bit Protected Mode
486sx 32 32 32 32 one 8K 80486 - FPU
80486 32 32 32 32 one 8K 80386 & FPU
486dx2 32 32 32 32 one 8K doubled internal clock rate*
486dx3 being demoed. 20/60 MHz, 25/75 MHz, and 33/99 MHz planned.
Pentium 32 32 64 32 16K code, CISC chip with RISC-like
5 16K data features, 2-issue superscalar,
[P 5] 386 Write-Back, 64-bit
FPU path, pipelining; Speed:
SPECint92: 64.5; SPECfp92:
56.9**
386sx: 386 chip with 32-bit internal/16-bit external architecture.
286 and 386sx chips can address to 16MB maximum RAM.
386sl: low power(3.3V) 386sx with built-in power management. Used mainly on
laptops.
386slc: IBM 5V 386sx with a 16k on-chip cache added (John H. Kim). As far as
John H. Kim knows it is only used on IBM models.
486slc: Neither of two chips that have this name have a FPU. Cyrix: basically
486sx in 386sx socket with 1k cache and improved integer math speed. IBM:
equivalent to the 486sx except it has a 16k on-chip cache.
* ex. for 486dx2/50, chip runs 50 MHz rest of machine runs at 25 MHz.
***(PC Week 04/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:138) "The latest in a line of CISC chips"
(PC Mag 4/27/93:110) Samples released March 22, 1993, but machines will not
be announced until at least May 1993 (PC Week 2/08/93). $1000 a CPU; systems
$5000 and up (PC Mag 4/27/93:110).
Mac ALU Registers External CPU Features/
CPU bus address cache* Notes
68000 16 32 16 24 none {1984-1993} 16MB limit**
68020 32 32 32 32 256 code {1987-1992} parallel processing
68030 32 32 32 32 two 256 68020 + MMU, 16K burst mode
68LC040 32 32 32 32 two 4K 68040 - FPU
68040 32 32 32 32 two 4K MMU, FPU, pipelining, doubled
internal clock rate***
68050 development discontinued in favor of 68060
68060 32 32 32 32 Branch 68040 + a better FPU,
target superscaler pipelining, cache
line bursts, equivalent
capabilities & speeds to
Pentium*#
*includes data and instruction {code} caches. The 68030, 68LC040, & 68040
have built-in caches for both.
**68000 Mac designs created a 4MB limit.
***The 040 has 2 clocks, an internal processor clock [PCLK] that is 2x freq of
external bus clock [BCLK] which is the one used to rate the chips
(Bradley Lamont; Motorola 68040 data book). Some compilers produce programs
sensitive to the PCLK and so they act as if the 68040 was a clock doubler
chip, but this very compiler and program dependent. Compliers maybe written
to allow programs to take consitant advantage of the 68040's PCLK in the
future. As it is now, studies such as one in a Byte article {which showed
040/25 ~486/50 and roughly ~486dx2/50} are very dependent on the machine, OS,
and programs tested and as such are not representative of general performance.
*#Motorola claims (PC Week 09/07/92; 09/14/92).
As the PowerPCs are to be in both IBM and Mac machines I have listed them
separately to eliminate redundancy. They are Motorola CPU RISC chips.
PowerPC ALU Registers External CPU Features/
CPU bus address cache Notes
MC98601 32 32 32 int 64 32K Speed: SPECint92: 50;
[601] 32 fp combined SPECfp92: 80*
I/D
MC98603: low power MC98601 for desktop & portable systems. Out by end of 1993.
[603]
MC98604: high performance MC98601 for high end machines. Out by 1st Q 1994.
[604]
MC98620 64 64 32 int 64 32K Out by mid 1994.
[620] 32 fp combined
I/D
*(PC Week 04/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:138). Select venders were sent sample
MC98601 chips by Motorola 2/93 (PC Week 2/08/93), and some NuBus boards
containing early samples of PowerPC 601 have been given to Apple's "A-list"
developers (PC Week 12/7/92; MacWeek 12/14/92). MC98601/50MHz-$280;
MC98601/66MHz-$374 (PC Week 4/12/93). Systems: ~$3500 with ~$2000 versions
out by mid 1994 (PC Week 4/12/93).
CPUs Comparison List
As a general rule of thumb Motorola chips are faster than Intel chips at the
same frequency {030/25 ~= 386/33; 040/25 ~= 486dx/50}, but Intel has chips at
higher frequencies than Motorola, so this evens out. The Macintosh Bible 4th
ed. supports the comparisons between Intel and Motorola chips for the 68020
and above.
<=80186 ~ 68000 {16-bit vs 16/24/32-bit chip [data path/address
lines/data & address registers]. The 4MB limit on the 68000 Macs brings it
down to the 80186 and lower chips, otherwise it would compare to the 80286.}
286 ~ 68020 {hardware segmenting vs. 68020's 32-bit ALU and these chips
come have no usable built-in MMU unlike their successors [80386, 68030]. The
hardware segmenting's protected mode is used by OS/2 1.0 => and Windows 3.X.
The use of the hardware segmenting and their 16-bit nature put the 286 between
the 60000 and 68030 in features and the LC's 16-bit data path strenghthens the
286 ~ 68020 comparison.}
386 ~ 68030 {Two 32-bit chips with MMUs, and protected memory. A/UX 3.0
is at present the only Mac OS to use the 68030's protected memory feature for
apps. System 7.x uses this feature to protect a RAM disk created by the
Memory control panel but this is supported only on Powerbooks and Quadras.
The Color Classic and LCII 16-bit hardware data paths makes the 68030s in them
comparative to 386sxs.}
486sx ~ 68LC040 {same as 486 and 68040 without the FPU; used as a low cost
solution for people who do not need the FPU. Only with programs sensitive to
PCLK & pipelining does the 68LC040 behave like 486dx2 - FPU or a '486dx2sx'.}
486 ~ 68040 {two 32-bit microprocessors with built-in FPU, MMU, 8K
internal cache (which is implemented as two 4K caches in the 68040 and one in
the 486). Only with programs sensitive to PCLK & pipelining does the 68040
behave like a 486dx2.}
Pentium ~ 68060 {Both are planned to be superscalar but both have heat
problems. These chips may flounder against the cheaper (PC Week 3/08/93;
4/12/93; PC Mag 4/27/93:110), earlier released (PC Week 12/7/92; MacWeek
12/14/92; PC Week 2/08/93), less leat producing {160 degrees F for Pentium
(PC Mag 4/27/93:118)}, and partly ported to PowerPC chips.}
PowerPC = PowerPC {This CPU line is planned to run programs from DOS,
Windows 3.x, OS/2 and Mac OS on top of PowerOpen-A/UX 4.0 [UNIX] and later
Pink [Taligent OS] by using emulators or, if necessary, the OSes themselves in
a 'shell' a.k. how SoftPC or OS/2 does DOS.}
Hardware
{In an effort to remove the 'reconfiguring the system almost every time you
add something' requirement for add-in cards, drivers, video, and operating
systems in the IBM world, Intel, Microsoft and 12 other hardware and software
developers are working out 'plug and play' standards (PC Week 03/08/93).}
Color Support/Display
Mac: 30.24 MHz Pixel Clock standard. All present Macs support the use of
32-bit color through 32-bit color QuickDraw in ROM. 32-bit color QuickDraw
allows an almost transparent capability to display and edit X-bit images in Y-
bit color and retain ALL the colors of Y-bit color [Where X and Y
independently are 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, or 32] regardless of monitor resolution {63
dpi [12" color] to 94 dpi [PaletteBook]} or monitor type {including
autosynchronous VGA, MCGA and SVGA monitors with ranges including 66.7 hz
vertically and 35 kHz horizontally and only a hardware video adaptor (MacUser
Aug 1992: 158-176). Older machines that supported color {SE/30, II, IIX, and
IIcx} had only 8-bit color in ROM and needed a software patch to use 32-bit
color (MacUser Special 1993:28-29).
To keep costs down and speed up most Macs have only 8 or 16 bit display
capability built-in, but most of those can be expanded to display 24-bit
color. Presently QuickDraw is optimized for 72 dpi display; QuickDraw QX
will change this.
In addition, QuickDraw allows, in Macs with a NuBus slot, more then one
monitor to be used in any combination, from two monitors showing the same
thing to multiple monitors acting as one large large monitor with any degree
of overlap of the pictures.
VRAM: Video RAM. Standard for present non-PowerBook Mac's handling of
built-in video {from a 32-bit color palette}. VRAM provided runs a 8-bit
color 640x480 display; expandable to 16-bit color or a 8-bit 832x624 display.
Sound output: Standard in all Macs since the 128K. Stereo sound became
standard with the SE/30.
IBM: Even though PCs have ROM BIOS definitions of how the operating system
interacts with the video hardware (Nan Zou), the use of drivers bypassing
BIOS, video hareware inconsitancies {see Super VGA below} and nonstanderzation
of clone BIOS have left resolution of video display hardware, OS and program
interaction up to the OS and video hardware in question (Faisal Nameer
Jawdat). In addition, IBM and clone makers never bothered to provide a
standard hardware mechanism for software to determine what display mode is
actually present (Matt Healy) nor a standardized screen-drawing toolbox {like
Mac's QD}. As a result the OS must be very well written to detect some modes,
especially with some third party cards or to use them consitantly {At present
things are so dependent on the interaction of the program, OS, print driver
and monitor card that editing 32-bit pictures regardless of color mode, OS,
and monitor type/card combination as one can do on the Mac is impossible with
an IBM. For example, one cannot edit a 32-bit color picture done on a OS/2
486 with a SVGA monitor on a 386 with VGA {18-bit color palette} and DOS 5.0
and still have ALL the colors one started out with}.
Later IBM machines will have integrated graphics accelerators, faster
processors, and modular upgradeability and may have built-in sound cards, CD
ROM, and Ethernet (PC Week 12/14/92).
MDA: Monocrome Display Adapter
original character-mapped video mode, no graphics, 80x25 text.
CGA: Color Graphics Array
320x200 4 colors or 640x200 b/w, 16 color palette, bad for the eyes.
EGA: Enhanced Graphics Array
640x350 16 colors from 64 color palette [and some lower res]; some versions
could run at 256 colors, bearable on the eyes.
VGA: Video Graphics Array*
320x200 at 256 colors, 640x480 at 16 colors, and some others, these two are
the most commonly used. All modes have a 256K CLUT, from a
18 to 24-bit {IBM} or a 32-bit {Mac} color palette. 25.175 MHz Pixel Clock
(Mel Martinez). Monitors use analog input, incompatible with TTL signals
from EGA/CGA etc.
MCGA: Multi-Color Graphics Array*
subset of VGA that provides all the features of MDA & CGA, but lacks some EGA
and VGA modes, like VGA 640x480x16 (Dictionary of Computer Terms-DCT).
Common on the initial PS/1 implementation from IBM and some PS/2 Models.
SVGA: Super VGA*
This is not a standard in the way the others were, but instead was a 'catch
all' category for a group of video cards. As such, with each manufacturer
using their own implementation scheme, SVGA was chaos with people debating
as to what is SVGA and what is not. In an effort to make SVGA more of a
standard VESA was established and is used in the newer units, but things
are still a mess. Video is either 512K [~1990] or 1M [today], resolution
of 800x600 and 1024x768 at 16 and 256 colors are common, newer ones [since
1990] have the Sierra HiColor RAMDAC, giving 15-bit 32,768 colors at 800x600,
some of the very newer ones [~6/92] can do 24 bits per pixel [usually
at 640x480]. Speedwise, too much variation, some very slow [Western Digital
Paradise based, for example], some very fast [S3 86C911 based, for example],
some are so-so [like Tseng ET4000, a very popular chipset]. Some limiting
factors overcome by 40MHz VL Bus & 386's linear address mapping were:
8.33 MHz ISA bus, AT architecture where the CPU looks at the card through a
64K "window", etc.
Other non-SVGA standards:
8514/a:
IBM's own standard, interlacing graphics accelerator with graphics functions
like linedraw, polygon fill, etc. in hardware. Some clone implementations
from ATI are the fastest video available today, though some clone models do
not have interlacing.
TMS34010/34020: high end graphics co-processors, usually >$1000, some
do 24-bit, speeds up vector-oriented graphics like CAD.
XGA: eXtended Graphics Array
newer and faster than 8514/a, only available for MCA bus-based PS/2s, clones
are coming out soon. Emulates VGA, EGA, and CGA (DCT). Max resolution at
1024x768x8b, same as 8514/a, also some 16 bpp modes.
XGA-2
Accelerates graphics functions up to 20 times faster than standard VGA in
Windows and OS/2, including line draws, bit and pixel-block transfers, area
fills, masking and X/Y addressing. Has an intelligent way to detect and co-
exist with other XGA-2 cards, so multiple desktops like on the Mac may not be
far away. Since this is an architecture, its resolution and color depth
isn't fixed {IBM implements only 16-bit [65,536] color, while other
companies can have 24-bit color through IBM technical licenses}. Refresh
rates up to 75 Hz, ensures flicker free, rock solid images to reduce visual
discomfort, and is VGA compatible. Up to 1280x1024 on OS/2.
*some monitor types usable by Mac-See Mac section above for specific details.
Expansion
Both Mac & IBM
SCSI: only external device expansion interface common to both Mac and IBM.
Allows the use of any device: hard drive, printer, scanner, Nubus card
expansion {Mac Plus only}, some monitors, and CD-ROM.
Main problem: there are a lot of external devices which are internal
terminated which causes problems for more then two devises off the SCSI port
{A SCSI chain is supposed to be terminated ONLY at the begining and at the
end. Any other set up causes problems for either Mac or IBM}.
SCSI-1: 7 devices per SCSI controller. 8-bit asynchronous {~1.5MB/s ave}
and synchronous {5MB/s max} transfers. Difference is due to SCSI-1 software
drivers. "Fast SCSI-1" is a misname for 8-bit SCSI-2 in SCSI-1 mode
{see SCSI-2 for details}.
SCSI-2: 10 devices per SCSI controller in SCSI-2 mode. SCSI-2 is fully
SCSI-1 compliant and 8-bit SCSI-2 tends to be implemented as a very fast
SCSI-1 since it does not require the different controller interfaces in
hardware and software that 16 and 32-bit SCSI-2 do. Transfer speeds are
4-6MB/s with 10MB/s burst {8-bit}, 8-12MB/s with 20MB/s burst {16-bit}, and
15-20MB/s with 40MB/s burst {32-bit/wide and fast}. Since 8-bit SCSI-2 can
use SCSI-1 software drivers and hardware at 8-bit SCSI-2 speeds and as such
is limited to 7 devices sometimes it is mistakenly called "fast SCSI-1".
16-bit fast SCSI-2 requires a SCSI-2 software driver and SCSI-2 electronics
but can still use the SCSI-1 ports. Wide 16-bit and 32-bit SCSI-2 require a
different SCSI port, electronics, and software driver from SCSI-1 {Which
makes them more expensive than other SCSI interfaces}.
Mac SCSI: asynchronous SCSI-1 built-in standard since the Plus. Even though
Apple developed some specifications for SCSI controlers, the OS SCSI Manager
needs to be rewritten to take full advantage of the features of both SCSI
interfaces. As a result present SCSI-2 Macs use 8-bit SCSI-2 as a fast
asynchronous SCSI-1. Presently Quadras are the only Macs with a SCSI-2
controller chip built-in (Digital Review, Oct 21, 1991 v8 n33 p8(1))
though they lack some other parts of the hardware, like the wide SCSI-2 port
interface. Since other Macs require a NuBus card to use SCSI-2, older NuBus
Macs had a bottleneck due to the speed of the NuBus and CPU. Rumor-some
Cyclone Macs {June} will come with a wide & fast SCSI-2 port standard
and have a rewritten OS SCSI manager.
IBM SCSI: SCSI-1 is not too wide spread yet, generally not bundled with
systems, except as add-on {EISA and VESA Local Bus adapters avalable}.
Like the Mac, 8-bit SCSI-2 is used as a very fast SCSI-1 by most controllers
out there. Unlike the Mac, IBM has no exact SCSI controller specifications
which results in added incompatibilities for SCSI.
Mac
Memory expansion: with a few exceptions the Mac has used non-parity 30-pin
8-bit SIMM memory expansion since the Plus. While 32-pin 9-bit parity SIMMs
could be used in these Macs, only special IIcis could make use of the parity
feature {By convension both SIMM types are called 32-pin SIMMs}. The IIfx
used 64-pin parity SIMMs. The LC III, C610/650 and Q800 all use a new
72-pin SIMM that is accessable by 32-bits at a time and is used in IBMs.
The Mac does a complete memory check at startup by writing/reading every
memory location; if something is seriously wrong with a SIMM the Mac will
not boot and give a sound chord indicating what the problem is.
Since Macs made before Feb 15, 1993 managed memory baced on data path, SIMMs
had to be installed in pairs {16-bit} or in sets of 4 {32-bit}. The Centris
650 and Quadra 800 eliminate this with a new memory management setup that
allows memory to be upgraded one SIMM at a time. If the SIMMs are the same
size are used then the memory is 'interleaved' across the two SIMMs resulting
in a 10-15% performance boost on RAM access (MacWorld Apr 93: 108-109).
Printers, ADBs, and modems: built-in interfaces standard.
Monitor interface and sound input: built-in on most present macs.
PDS: Available in SE & all present non-Powerbook Macs. 16-bit {SE,
Portable, LC, LC II, Classic line} and 32-bit. Operates at CPU's MHz.
Maximum through put: data path in bytes*CPU's MHz {Q700/900 & C650:
4 * 25Mhz = 100MB/s; Q800 & Q950: 4 * 33Mhz = 132MB/s}. Standardized with
the LC and 040 bus designs. With an adapter one NuBus card can be used in
IIsi and C610. Problem: some cards have timing dependency which slows
through put down.
NuBus Mac II: 32-bit, 10 MHz bus clock, 1-to-1 transaction/bus cycle ratio,
and contiguous, hand-shake transactions at ~10-20MB/s; theoretical peak:
40MB/s. Built-in on all Modular Macs except the LC series, C610, and
Performa 400. The SE/30 could be adapted to use this and there was even a
Mac Plus SCSI NuBus. Supports every possible expansion from CPU to Ethernet
to DMA.
NuBus 90: NuBus Mac II back compatable. 20MHz bus clock, avg throughput:
~30MB/s; burst mode: 80MB/s. Future card designs will be 7" instead of the
old 12".
QuickRing: A peer-to-peer bus used in parallel with NuBus 90. Apple's
VLBus - "Architecture is identical to that of VLBus" (Byte 10/92:128).
Burst mode: 350MB/s (Byte 10/92:128). In development.
CPU expansion: handled either through the PDS or the NuBus. Unlike PDS,
Nubus CPU cards {example-Radius Rocket} allow use of multiple processors at
the same time. This is like having two or more Macs in the same box able to
dual task or joinly process depending on the card or software involved {Each
NuBus card needs its own memory but most NuBus cards of this type come with
8MB RAM SIMMs on the card standard}.
IBM
Memory expansion: parity SIMMs, non-parity SIMMs {some newer models do a Mac-
like SIMM memory check}, or a dozen or so different types of memory boards.
HD Interfaces {limited to hard drives by design or lack of development}:
MFM: Modified Frequency Modulation, RLL: Run Length Limited
only used with smaller [² 60mb] hard drives.
IDE: Integrated Device Electronics
Asynchronous {~5MB/s max} and synchronous {8.3MB/s max} transfer.
currently the most common standard, and is mainly used for medium sized
drives. Can have more than one hard drive.
ESDI: Enhanced Small Device Interface
~1.25MB/s throughput. generally considered better interface than SCSI-1 in
many ways but not common enough for practical consideration. Outside of
hard drives, device choices are very limited compared to SCSI-1.
BUS interfaces
{New 'plug and play' ISA and EISA compatable cards may have problems working
with old cards (InfoWorld; PC Week 03/08/93; Vaporware 4/93).}
ISA
8 & 16-bit interfaces common. Has 24-bit data path limit {which produces a
16MB limit for which there are software workarounds} (PC Mag 4/27/93:105).
1.5 MB/s (Byte 3/93:132). Uses edge-triggered interrupts, can't share them,
hence comes the IRQ conflict. Limited busmastering capabilities, some cards
aren't bandwidth limited {COM ports, LPT ports, game ports, MIDI card, etc.}
while others are {video and disk controllers}. Dominant factor, but it's
showing its age. Most ISA motherboard designs are 16-bit
(PC World Feb 1993: 144-5)}.
MCA {Micro Channel}
IBM's 16 and 32-bit bus; "allows use of more than one CPU in a computer"
(DCT) and anything can talk to anything, as fast as the two components
involved can handle it. Never took off because it was incompatible with ISA
and EISA. Planned to be bus interface of IBM PowerPC 601 (Carl Jabido).
EISA {NuBus Mac II is closest Mac equivalent}
32-bit, 8.33 MHz, burst mode: 33MB/s. It also has the ability to
self-configure cards like MCA and allows multiple bus masters, sharable
interrupt and DMA channels and multiple CPU use.
VESA Local Bus: VLB {Sometimes mistakenly refereed to as PDS}
Local Bus standard. Runs at CPU clock rate, Burst modes: ~130 MB/s{32-bit}
250 MB/s{64-bit} (Byte 10/92:128). Limited to three slots but allows bus
mastering and will coexist with either ISA or EISA. Consitered ideal for
video and disk I/O. DELL has filled a claim that this violates one of
their patents (Mel Martinez).
QuickRing: Apple's faster {350 MB/s burst} version of VLB architecture
(Byte 10/92:132). Might show up in some IBM and PowerPC machines
(Byte 10/92:132-133). In development.
PCI
Intel's version of Local Bus that is intended to totally replace
ISA/EISA/MCA. In development.
OSes {assumes full installation [print drivers, fonts, Multifinder, etc.]
and multiple application use.}
Mac
512K to 1MB of OS and hardware commands have been put into ROM. This allows
Apple to control its machine by putting key hooks for the Mac OS {QuickDraw,
menu commands, print, mouse, SCSI & sound drivers, etc} in ROM, which require
clone makers to use the ROM chip or read ROM on to disks {Which requires
access to the proper Mac since different Macs have slightly different ROM
chips; Plus vs Classic for example.} With key hooks for the OS support
interface in ROM, programers do not have to worry as much whether the disk OS
has the necessary hardware commands or that those commands are consitant and
therefore can write smaller programs. This also allows Apple greater control
over hardware-software standards and that the disk OS can be smaller and, with
some of the tookbox command code in ROM, with lower RAM requirements then a
totally disk based OS. Macs use Masked ROM which is as fast as DRAM (Jon
Wtte).
6.0.7: Single program usage base requirements: 1 MB and DD floppy,
cooperatively-multitasking base requirements: 2MB and HD floppy.
Features a GUI, cooperative-multitasker [MultiFinder], standard program
interface, & standard stereo sound support [snd]. Network receiving part of
AppleShare software is bundled with the OS. Has a 8MB RAM barrier and is a
24-bit OS. Some third party products allow 14MB of Virtual Memory as long as
real RAM is below 8MB.
6.0.8: 6.0.7 with 7.0.0 print drivers.
6.0.8L: System 6 for some Macs that require System 7.0.X.
7.0.X: Base requirements: 2MB, 40MB Hard Drive, and 68000; De-facto standard
to run all features well: 4MB, 80MB Hard Drive, and 68030 {lowest present
non-portable Mac configuration}. Using up to 10.08MB {This is EVERYTHING on
system disks} of hard disk space this has 6.0.7 features plus program linking
within and between computers [IAC], built-in server capabilities {Filesharing
can be used by older OSes using AppleShare Client software and can be
accessed by 10 macs max; 4-5 is more speed practical, IAC requires 7.X},
Virtual Memory in machines with MMU{1.6 times real RAM for least noticeable
IIsi speed degradation}, drag and drop, QuickTime & built-in TrueType
support. Supports sound input [AIFF and snd formats] for most present
machines. Can access up to 1GB of true RAM and 4GB of virtual memory and is
both a 24 and 32-bit OS. To use real RAM beyond 8MB it must be in 32-bit
mode and on older machines requires the 'Mode 32' extension. Apple's last
'free' OS.
7.1.0: 7.0.1 with WorldScript support, speedier, and less RAM usage than
7.0.dot (MacWeek 8/24/92; 9/14/92; PC Week 9/7/92). To run in 32-bit mode
on older machines it requires the 'Mode 32' or '32-Bit Enabler' extension.
Marks the start of Apple saling its Mac OS instead of allowing free upgrades
{Bundled with new machines, $49 for 7.0.X upgrades, $99 otherwise}.
[The installer has a bug that when upgrading it may keep some old system
fonts from the previous system inside the system file. This can eat up any
RAM benefits and cause other problems. Apple itself recommends removing all
fonts from the system file.]
A/UX 3.0 [UNIX]: Needs 8MB RAM {12-20MB suggested}, 160MB hard drive, and
a 68030 or 68040 equivalent to run. This 32-bit preemptive multitasking OS
is large due to being UNIX and needing translators between it and the Mac
ROMs. Price: $709.
Note: sound output was supported in OSes 3.2 to 6.0.5 by many formats
including the following: snd, WAVE, ASND, FSSD, QSSN, SMSD, SOUN, dc2d, and
DCFL. In 6.0.7 the sound manager was optimized for the sound standards 'snd'
and AIFF which causes some playback problems for the old formats, though most
still play.
IBM
Machiness have little GUI code, data, and hooks present in hardware for
programmers to work with, so most of the coding must be provided in the OS.
Since hard disks were slow the disk OS code is read into RAM. In addition,
what little ROM code there is also read into RAM {a process called Shadow ROM}
This results in faster implementation since RAM is faster then PROMS or
EPROMS. Having most of the OS code on disk has the advantage of being able to
better optimize the code given a certain piece or collection of hardware which
is harder with a ROM based system due to the 'patches' needed. In addition it
reduces the need for and size of patches if a major revision of the hardware
support is needed.
Side note: The FTC charged that MicroSoft formed a OS trust by not providing
all feature documentation for its OSes to developers outside MS and designing
its Windows and DOS apps to fail under OS/2 ("Undocumented Windows") and
"There is deliberate code in [Windows] NT Beta which causes the install to
abort if OS/2 Boot Manager is present" (Gregory Hicks, Info-IBMPC Digest V92
#201). Due to a conflict of intrest by one member the vote of the FTC
judicial council for action against Microsoft was a tie which resulted in no
action. Rumors-the FTC will presue the matter, likely to the point of
choosing a new member or whole new council. In addition the government has
turned down Microsoft's copyright of "Windows" which would allow it to charge
a fee for developers using their hooks (PC Week 03/08/93).
MicroSoft OSes
DOS 5.0: Has a 640K barrier with its own memory manager, a 1 MB barrier
with third party memory managers. This 16-bit OS requires that each program
must provide its own print drivers and be 16-bit {Programs need to be DOS
Protected Mode Interface (DPMI) compliant and running on a 386dx [32-bit
Protected Mode] to break these barriers}. Contains the GUI shell present in
DOS 4.0.
DOS 6.0: DOS 5.0 with the added features of a built-in file compresion, disk
defragmenter, debugger for the CONFIG.SYS file. It needs a $80 module for
networking {Cost: $50 through 5/93, after that $129.99}
(Byte April 1993:44-46).
DOS 7.0: 32-bit DOS. In development (PC Week 04/05/93).
Window 3.0: Runs on top of DOS. Breaks 640K and 1M barriers but still has to
deal with DOS file structure. Base requirements: 1MB, floppy and 286; to
run well 2MB, hard drive, 386sx and fast display adapter {> 8-bit}. Has the
equivalent of Mac's QD called Windows GDI [Graphics Device Interface].
This does not have a consistent application interface {Like early Mac
programs (1984-1985)} nor a very large program base {compared to DOS} and
still tends to slow the machine down (Info-IBMPC Digest V92 #186) with speed
is more dependent on the display adapter then on the CPU (Bill Coleman).
Window programs tend to be disk and memory hogs compared to their DOS
counterparts (Byte April 1993:98-108).
Window 3.1: A faster version of Window 3.0 with better memory managment. Base
requirements 1 MB, hard drive and a 286 ;to run well 2MB, hard drive, 386sx.
Apple plans to release its print drivers for this (PC Week 12/28/92).
Windows for Workgroups: To run well: 4MB RAM and 386dx (PC World Feb/93:160).
Intermediary between Win 3.1 and Windows NT. It is basically Windows 3.1
with built-in peer to peer networking support.
Windows NT: Beta release takes about 50MB of disk space [including the
swap file], and 12MB RAM {Betas are notorious for RAM usage especially in
the interaction between debuging code and program compliers, hence the
reports of 24MB requirements}. Released version supposed to need 8MB RAM
but, Gates himself now recommends 16MB RAM (PC Week 04/15/92).
This 32-bit OS has Protected mode multitasking, multithreading, symmetric
multiprocessing, a recoverable file system, and 32-bit GDI. Has built in
networking that is OSF DCE compliant and can handle up to 4GB of RAM. Even
though some people see a July 4 release date (InfoWorld Nov 16/92), rumor
is that the final version will not be available before Oct 1993
(InfoWorld May 25/92; July 6/92; Vaporware 07/92; 08/92) or 4th quarter 1993
(PC Week 09/28/92). Windows upgrades will be $295, otherwise $495
(PC Week 04/15/92; 03/15/93).
Other OSes
PC-DOS 6.0: IBM's version of DOS 6.0. It runs Windows much faster then DOS
6.0 due to faster file I/O and video handling (InfoWorld Feb 1, 93).
DR DOS 6.0: same as DOS 5.0 with some extras {like built-in data compression}
and memory management enhancements. Still has 640K/1MB barrier. A later
version {Novell DOS} of this may use a version of the Mac finder and Apple
file management system (PC Week 12/14/92; InfoWorld Dec 14/92).
OS/2 2.0: Unix like features and unix like requirements; 8-16MB RAM,
60MB {uses 17-33MB} hard drive, and 386dx CPU. This 32-bit multithreaded,
multitasking OS can address up to 4GB of RAM but has to use a fast swap file
to use more than 16 MB RAM on ISA systems using DMA {Direct Memory Access}.
IBM plans to use Taligent's OOPS in future versions of this
(InfoWorld Oct 26/92).
AIX: IBM's UNIX system, planned to be a subset of PowerOpen and Taligent OS.
NeXTStep: GUI UNIX to provide NeXT features on IBM machines. Beta out, final
version to be out by May 25, 1993.
Solaris OS for x86: a SunSoft port. A 32-bit OS with symmetric
multiprocessing and multithreading, built-in networking capabilities with
tools to allow remote configuring and adminstration features, and
communication package. Client: $795, 50 users server: $1,995, 1000s users
server: $5,995. Developer kits-software: $495, hardware: $195.
Mac 7.1 [working name: Star Trek]: Apple had System 7.0 running off Intel
Chips and is looking at making a 7.1 version available for IBM
(ComputerWorld Nov 2/92; MacWeek 03/22/93). At present this is planned to run
on top of Novell's DR DOS, require a 486 or equivalent to run and that apps
will need to be recompiled (MacWeek 03/22/93). Viewed as Novell's answer to
Windows NT. The complexity of PC hardware set ups is one reason for slow
progress {This seems to Apple/IBM's way of leading to the PowerPC line out in
late 1993/early 1994 and Pink OS in late 1994-early 1995.}
PowerPC
Rumor-IBM will build its PowerPC 601 by late 1993 (InfoWorld June 8 & 15, 92;
MacWeek 7/13/92; PC Week 3/15/93). It will have MicroChannel bus and XGA
video (Carl B Jabido), and will run native version AIX and Mac apps (PC Week
3/15/93); there have been no comments on compatablity of DOS or Windows apps.
Apple's PowerPC 601 machine {Tesseract} is planned to be out Jan 24, 1994 and
to have MC98601/50 MHz, 4/8MB RAM, a 2.8-Mbyte floppy drive and expected to
sale near LC line prices {~$2000, down from projections of ~$3000 (MacUser
9/92:146)}
(MacWeek 3/22/93).
PowerOpen [A/UX 4.0]: A 32-bit preemtive multitasking OS planned to run on
PowerPCs and 68030/40 Macs (MacWeek 7/13/92). Intel compatibility uncertain
(See Mac 7.1 above). Planned base requirements: 68030, 8MB RAM, 80MB hard
drive (MacWeek 4/19/93). Rumor-ahead of schedule; COULD be out by mid 1993.
Rumor-this could be the OS for IBM's PowerPC 601 which is due by late 1993.
Pink [Taligent OS]: Expecting delivery in 1994 (Wall Street Journal 1/12/92)
and may have some parts shipping in OS/2 and AIX in 1993 and Mac OS and
PowerOpen with the PowerPCs (MacWeek 01/25/93).
Windows NT: Possible port (MacWeek 04/05/93). See IBM OS section for details.
Solaris OS: Version of this Sun Microsystems Inc UNIX OS to run on the
Power PCs in 1994 (MacWeek 04/05/93). One of the few OSes to directly state
that it will run Windows/DOS programs. IBM OS section for details
NeXTStep: possible port see IBM OS section for details.
OS Number Crunching (Mel Park)
Mac
Arithmetic is done in a consistent numerical environment {SANE or Standard
Apple Numerics Environment}. Floating point numbers are 96 bits long when an
FPU is present and 80 bits otherwise. Exceptions, such as dividing by zero or
taking the square root of a negative number, do not cause an abort but are
handled in a logically consistent manner. 1/0 produces the internal
representation for infinity (INF). 1/(1/0) produces zero. The above treatment
of 1/(1/0) occurs in an FPU-equipped machine even when SANE is bypassed and
the FPU programmed directly.
IBM
Floating point numbers are 80-bits with a hardware FPU, 64-bits when
emulated. The way they are handled is dependent on the coding of whatever
compiler or assembler was used for a program. On older DOS complilers
exceptions could cause program aborts; 1/0 and 1/(1/0) would abort to the DOS
prompt at the point where they occured. Most present compilers handle this
better. Result: there is little consistent handling of numbers between DOS,
Windows and OS/2 programs nor between programs for just one OS.
Networking [Includes printing]
WYSIWYG printing can be a problem with either Mac of IBM machines especially
if one sends TrueType fonts to a older style PostScript printer.
Mac
Hardware: Built-in LocalTalk network port and a built-in printer port.
LocalTalk has moderate speeds (230.4 Kb/s) requires special connectors for
each machine ($15 and up) and can be run off of either the printer port {to
include very old macs} or the network port {standard today}. Built-in
Ethernet is becoming common but many older Macs require a PDS or Nubus card at
about $150-$300 for each machine. These cards provide three connectors and
transceivers {thick, thin, and 10BaseT} for Ethernet.
The Macintosh Quadra family and some Centris models includes Ethernet
interface on motherboard, with transceivers available. TokenRing has been a
network option since 1989.
Software: AppleTalk {the suite of protocols} standard with Mac OS, which can
use variety of media types. AppleShare client software included with the OS
as well and can connect to file servers such as Novell Netware, 3Com 3+Open,
Banyan Vines, DEC Pathworks, Apple's AppleShare servers, System 7 File Sharing
machines, and AFP servers running on variety of UNIX hosts. MacTCP allows
typical TCP/IP communications (telnet, ftp, NFS, rlogin). A later version
will have Unix X/Open Transport Interface (XTI) built-in by the end of 1993
(MacWeek 04/12/93). Third-party software to connect to NFS servers. DEC
Pathworks provides DECnet support. Peer-to-peer file sharing software
built-in to System 7.1 (See OS section). Full server software is extra.
Printing requires connection of the printer and the printer being selected in
the chooser. Changing printers is by selecting a different name in the
chooser. The same is true of connecting to servers.
Printing bugs: Monaco TrueType font is different then the screen bitmap font.
{QuickDraw QX is suppossed to fix this and similar problems.}
IBM
Hardware: LocalTalk [not widely used], Ethernet, and TokenRing.
Software: Novell Netware, Banyan Vines, DECNet, Windows/Work Groups, AppleTalk
protocols, and AppleShare {subset of AppleTalk}.
Each of the MS-DOS networking schemes are, in general, totally incompatible
with the others. Once you have chosen one, you are pretty much locked-in to
that product line from then on. Windows/Work Groups is a little more
forgiving and removes some of this problem. Novell Netware is the biggest,
{~80 percent of the corporate market.} and in general is more powerful and
offers better control/management/security than AppleShare, but it's also more
complex to set up and manage. This will change due to the use of the Mac
finder and file management system by Novell. (PC Week 12/14/92 & 12/28/92;
InfoWorld Dec 14/92; MacWeek 3/22/93)
Printing {Very OS dependent}
DOS: If it's a single user, then you plug the printer into the parallel port,
and don't worry about it {Tweeking may be needed with poorly written
software}. Network Printing is not controlled by the system, but is mostly
implemented by the actual program, therefore performance varies from one
software program to the next.
Windows 3.x: supports standard drivers and can do a good job of showing "jobs"
in the print queue, but it always lists printers as "active"... even if they
are not. This becomes a problem if there are several incompatible printers
on the same net, because there's no way for software to reliably determine
which printer is active right now. Windows for Workgroups is more Mac-like
and intelligent about this.
OS/2: Mac-like; the os deals with printers, with apps making calls to the OS.
Printing bugs: due to poor programing some programs for all the above OSes do
not have WYSIWYG printing. This is the fault of the programs in question and
not that of the OS involved.
Price issue: This is very dynamic with Mac providing more build-in features
than IBM and IBM being more 'get only what you need' then Mac and price wars
by both worlds.
The IBM machines' modualar nature prevents any kind of true hardware
standarization, which in turn requires OSes and programs to be very complex to
handle ALL the variation in hardware. When one adds all the standard Mac
hardware features to an IBM {built-in input/output sound support, SCSI, PDS,
built-in monitor support, built-in networking, standard mouse interface, and
NuBus 90 in higher machines} the Mac tends to be cheaper then an equivalent
equipted IBM machine {Especially since some IBM monitors can be used with Macs
which cuts some more of the Mac's cost (MacUser Aug 1992:158-176)}.
Some prices using some of the info in this sheet and MacUser April 1993.
All Macs below come with a PDS slot, VRAM, and SCSI-1 built in. Except where
noted, monitor is extra and a built-in monitor interface is provided {no card
needed except for 24-bit color display}.
IBM planned a $1,200 386SLC/25MHz model with a 60MB hard drive and color VGA
monitor {~VRAM} (MacWeek 8/17/92) {sounds like a Color Classic without SCSI-1,
sound support, built-in network support, FPU socket, built-in expansion to
16-bit color, etc}.
Color Classic: $1,389 - 030/16MHz with 16-bit data bus {~386sx/20MHz
equivalent}, 4/80, FPU socket, and built-in monitor.
LCIII: $1,499 - 030/25MHz {~386dx/33MHz equivalent}, and 4/160.
Centris 610: $2,899 - 68LC040/20MHz {Depending on the program ~486sx/40 or
~'486dx2sx'/20[40]MHz equivalent}, 8/230, built-in ethernet, 300i CD-ROM, a
PDS/NuBus 90 slot and VRAM for 16-bit color.
Centris 650: 040/25MHz {Depending on the program ~486dx/50 MHz or 486dx2/50
MHz equivalent} with a PDS and 3 NuBus 90 slots. $3,189 {ethernet, 8/80};
$3,559 {ethernet, 8/230}; $3,999 {ethernet, 8/230, CD-ROM, VRAM for 16-bit
color}
Bibliography notes
'Vaporware' is available in the digest/vapor directory by FTP on sumex-
aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6] and was by Murphy Sewall {last issue: April 93.}
'Info-IBMPC Digest' back issues are available from wsmr-simtel20.army.mil in
directory PD2:<ARCHIVES.IBMPC>
'Dictionary of Computer Terms 3rd ed.' (ISBM 0-8120-4824-5)
These are the facts as they were known to me on 4/15/93 and may be changed by
new developments, announcements, or corrections. Corrections to the
information are welcome.
Please email corrections to
CompuServe ID: 72130,3557
AOL: BruceG6069
Internet: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu
Final note: Since there is NO comp.sys.ibm.pc.advocacy group this has been
posted to the closest relevent groups {comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,
comp.os.os2.advocacy, and comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc}. Also since some Mac vs IBM
articles have been showing up in comp.sys.mac.hardware I have included that
newsgroup in the posting. {Don't site the comp.sys.mac.* FAQ as a reason not
to post to comp.sys.mac.hardware, since the FAQ itself does not follow
internet guidelines, especially the de-facto "[all] the FAQs for a newgroup
hierarchy should be posted to ALL newsgroups in the hierarchy" standard.}
"Eliminate the impossible and what ever remains, no matter how improbable,
is the truth" -- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle through Sherlock Holmes in The
Adventure of the Beryl Coronet, The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier, Sign of
Four and The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans.
"The Computer is your friend"--Parinoia RPG
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Did it ever accrue to you to just call INTEL'S 800 number and ask?
--
Gosh..I think I just installed a virus..It was called MS DOS6...
Don't copy that floppy..BURN IT...I just love Windows...CRASH...
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr15.155255.27034@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
>In article <C5DuHC.71p.1@cs.cmu.edu>, das+@cs.cmu.edu (David Simon) writes:
>
>>Can some one please explain to me why the following piece of code
>>causes twm (or tvtwm) to dump core [...]
>
>>In particular, I am interested in knowing whether this behavior is
>>caused by a bug in my reasoning, or if it is a bug in twm.
>
>If *anything* a client does causes twm to dump core, it's a bug in twm.
>Window managers should never *ever* crash.
Would if only it were true ...
If only MIT would fix the !@&$^*@ twm "InstallWindowColormaps()" crash bug
once and for all, then I could say that I've (almost) unable to crash either
"twm" or "tvtwm", which would be a remarkable feat - and most desirable to
boot. I mean, this bug has only been reported, oh, a zillion times by now ...
Now *servers*, on the other hand ... (want to crash an OpenWindows 3.0 "xnews"
server at will? Just do an 'xbiff -xrm "XBiff*shapeWindow: on"'. Blammo.)
--
- Greg Earle
Phone: (818) 353-8695 FAX: (818) 353-1877
Internet: earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US
UUCP: isolar!earle@elroy.JPL.NASA.GOV a.k.a. ...!elroy!isolar!earle
| 5comp.windows.x |
>DATE: 24 Apr 1993 11:53:48 -0500
>FROM: Russell Turpin <turpin@cs.utexas.edu>
>
>
>The diaries of the followers of the Maharishi, formerly of
>Oregon, are historical evidence.
Are you confusing Bhagwan Rajneesh (sp?) with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
here by any chance? I think Bhagwan was in Oregon with all the Rolls
Royces. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi founded Transcendental Meditation and
does the yogic flying stuff. Bhagwan's group was a communal, free sex
kind of thing. I think they both had beards, though.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
I am looking for a large futon and frame.
call Peter 495-2056
or e-mail me "khiet@cn.ecn"
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr10.160929.696@galki.toppoint.de> ulrich@galki.toppoint.de
writes:
> According to the TIFF 5.0 Specification, the TIFF "version number"
> (bytes 2-3) 42 has been chosen for its "deep philosophical
> significance".
> Last week, I read the Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy,
> Is this actually how they picked the number 42?
I'm sure it is, and I am not amused. Every time I read that part of the
TIFF spec, it infuriates me- and I'm none too happy about the
complexity of the spec anyway- because I think their "arbitrary but
carefully chosen number" is neither. Additionally, I find their
choice of 4 bytes to begin a file with meaningless of themselves- why
not just use the letters "TIFF"?
(And no, I don't think they should have bothered to support both word
orders either- and I've found that many TIFF readers actually
don't.)
ab
| 1comp.graphics |
Couldn't replacement become expensive?
-David
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <May.11.02.38.47.1993.28306@athos.rutgers.edu> Fil.Sapienza@med.umich.edu (Fil Sapienza) writes:
>In article <May.7.01.09.44.1993.14556@athos.rutgers.edu> maxwell c muir,
>muirm@argon.gas.organpipe.uug.arizona.edu writes:
>>of Faith (if you want to know, I feel that faith is intellectually
>>dishonest).
>
>I'd appreciate some support for this statement. I'm not sure
>it really makes sense to me.
I define faith as "belief, in the abscense(sp?) of evidence". I also
include in "evidence" past experiences. Because I have no past experience
in a god actually having an effect on my life and because I have never
seen evidence for any god beyond what can be explained without the
neccessity of a god or which is more convincing than the many fictional
works I have read (And other reasons), I do not believe in any god(s).
From what I have seen, some people reconcile this lack of evidence by
using faith.
It is faith in that sense (the only way I _currently_ understand the word
"faith") that I find intellectually dishonest.
>>The ambiguity of religious beliefs, an unwillingness to take
>>Pascal's Wager,
>
>I've heard this frequently - what exactly is Pascal's wager?
Pascal's wager goes something like this:
Premise #1: Either there is or there isn't a God.
Premise #2: If God exists, He wants us to believe and will damn us for not
believing.
Premise #3: If God does not exist, then belief in God doesn't matter
because death is death, anyway.
Conclusion: Belief in God is superior to non-belief because
non-belief damns us to eternal punishment if we are wrong, while belief in
God only wastes a little time in life if we are wrong.
Sound pretty straightforward and is logically sound. The problem is,
Premise #1 presupposes 1:1 odds between belief and non-belief. This is
flat out wrong, because of the sheer number of religions out there and the
fact that, for the most part, the religions are mutually exclusive. I have
heard theists referred to as "99% atheists" because they believe in their
god (or gods) to be the _one_ god (or set of gods). The consequence of
this is "what if I pick the wrong god?" Suddenly, the odds don't look so
good because picking the wrong god or wrong doctrines of a god still
leaves you with the possibility of being wrong and being damned to another
god's version of hell.
>> Do I sound "broken" to you?
>
>I don't know. You point out that your mother's treatment upset you,
>and see inconsistencies in various religions. I'm not sure if that
>constitutes broken-ness or not. It certainly consititutes
>disillusionment.
I don't see how "disillusionment" enters into it. You see, I presented my
mother's treatment of me to show the cause of my questioning my atheism, a
questioning which continues to this day. I had already been an atheist for
five years before having any contact with my mother's version of
Christianity. If anything, I had become somewhat disillusioned with
atheism (uh, oh, I thought, What if there *is* a God?). Yes, in a way, I
have also become disillusioned by many religions, simply because I had
thought at one time that they had all the answers, if I only found the
right one.
I'm still looking, but each time I look in a different place, I become a
little stronger in my attitude (belief, if you will, no faith, though,
it's based on the evidence of past experience) that I'll never find a
religion which has all the answers.
Sorta like looking for Easter eggs. The more time it takes you to find the
next one, the more convinced you become that you may already have found
all the eggs you're going to find.
Someone else mentioned that critisism isn't going to make me think any
more highly of Christians. I have a contrary position: Constructive
critisism will likely improve my attitude towards Christians. Abusive
critisism will turn me off.
No accusations to you, Mr. Sapienza. I merely slipped that into this post
because I forgot to reply to that one.
>Filipp Sapienza
>Department of Technology Services
>University of Michigan Hospitals - Surgery
>Fil.Sapienza@med.umich.edu
Muppets and Garlic Toast forever.
Max (Bob) Muir
PS I'm leaving for home on Thursday at 1:30, so this is likely my last
post here for the summer! In the meantime, thank you all for helping me
see a few more things I might have missed in my meanderings through the world!
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I bought this chip from Suncoast Technology and tried to build their
dtmf decoder circuit. But it's not working...
If anyone has the pinouts and possibly the voltage specs I'd sure
appreciated it. If someone could fax, email, or snail mail a copy
of the spec sheet for this chip that would be even better. :)
Please email me if you can help.
Thanks in advance,
--
Mont Pierce
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <C5MMEp.19n@panix.com>
gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
>dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>> 51 Arrested for Defying Judge's Order at Abortion Protest Rally
>> The Miami Herald, April 11, 1993
>>
>> Circuit Judge Robert McGregor's order prohibits anti-abortion pickets
>> within 36 feet of the property line of Aware Woman Center for Choice.
>> Even across the street, they may not display pictures of dead fetuses
>> or sing or chant loud enough to be heard by patients inside the clinic.
> Several years ago, Justice William O. Douglas, who was
> about as libertarian as you can get about free-speech
> and similar issues, wrote a majority opinion in which
> the Supreme Court turned down an appeal by a group of
> people who had been prohibited from demonstrating in
> front of their landlord's home.
Do you have a cite for the case? You don't give enough
information to be able to compare the two situations.
If the demonstrators had been blaring loud rock music
into the landlord's home all day and night, then I could
see how the opinion would be justified. But this court
order had prohibited abortion protesters from displaying
pictures of dead fetuses, which doesn't disrupt the privacy
of anyone inside the clinic.
> He pointed out that
> people have a right to be free _from_ speech,
Perhaps in the privacy of their homes, but not on public
property. Did the Korean grocery store owner in New York
city have a right to be free from the speech of the protesters
outside his store? Patrons inside the store could hear the
protesters asking them to re-consider shopping there -- how
is that different from the abortion protesters asking women
to re-consider getting an abortion at a clinic?
> Harassment goes beyond
> expression to direct attack on particular persons,
> in this case the workers and clients at a clinic.
> Its purpose is clearly not to convey information or
> express an opinion, but to intimidate and do harm to
> other others.
Even if the protesters' speech could be considered
"harassment" (which it is not), hate speech laws have
generally been struck down by the courts. I don't see
how the words ``don't kill your baby'' or ``abortion is
murder'' could be considered harassment.
> Anti-abortionists have lost the battle for public
> opinion, and the more psychopathic among them have
> turned to harassment, arson, bombing and murder to
> carry on their war. There is no reason not to
> restrain them to protect the ordinary civil rights
> of everyone else.
Some of the protesters were arrested for simply praying
quietly on a public sidewalk. Yeah, I could see how
that might be equivalent to "bombing" and "murder".
Uh huh. Let us know when you get a grip on reality.
> )*( Gordon Fitch )*( gcf@panix.com )*(
>( 1238 Blg. Grn. Sta., NY NY 10274 * 718.273.5556 )
Doug Holtsinger
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1993Apr15.143320.8618@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) writes:
> A judge denied GM's new trial motion, even though GM says it has two
>new witnesses that said the occupant of the truck was dead from the impact, not
>from the fire.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> It's kind of scary when you realize that judges are going to start
>denying new trials even when new evidence that contradicts the facts that led
>to the previous ruling appear.
On the other hand, it would be kind of scary if there were *never* a final
verdict, because a party to litigation could keep saying "Oops! I forgot
to bring up this evidence," and demand a new trial. You get one bite at
the apple.
> Or has the judge decided that the new witnesses are not to be believed?
>Shouldn't that be up to a jury?
It's up to General Motors to find those witnesses in the first litigation.
You'd be up in arms if a plaintiff suing General Motors pulled the same
stunt and made them relitigate an issue that they already lost. It's not
as if General Motors couldn't file enough discovery motions to delay the
trial until they found all the witnesses they wanted.
> And what about members of the previous jury parading through the talk
>shows proclaiming their obvious bias against GM?
Define "obvious bias."
>Shouldn't that be enough for
>a judge to through out the old verdict and call for a new trial?
Did GM move for a new trial on those grounds? No? Perhaps they had a
reason?
--
ted frank |
thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | I'm sorry, the card says "Moops."
the u of c law school |
standard disclaimers |
| 18talk.politics.misc |
crisp@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Russ Crisp) writes:
>SO.. Here's my question. It seems to me that I'd have the
>same electrical circuit if I hooked a jumper from the neutral
>over to the ground screw on new 'three prong' grounding outlets.
>What's wrong with my reasoning here?
May I respectfully suggest you NOT do this?? The ground is
supposed to be a protective ground, and though what you suggest
looks good on paper, it's dangerous to rely on the same wire for
power and protection. It'd never meet code, and if you now own
the property and later sell it, you may end up with liabilities
you don't want, and if you _don't_ now own it, well...
There's a "wiring" FAQ that I think addresses this. I believe
an alternative is use of a GFCI, but I'm really not sure what
current code allows in this area. The GFCI senses alternate
(unwanted) current paths, and doesn't rely on a specific
protective ground wire, at least not beyond the GFCI in the
protected circuit. GFCI breakers are available (but expensive).
| 12sci.electronics |
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### Mark Juric A.I. Programs ###
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
art
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1qlja7$i6b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ak333@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Martin Linsenbigler) writes:
>>
>When I first setup windows using the self load mode It grabbed about
>20 megs of swap file space, my 120 meg HD was nearly empty at that time.
>I deleted windows for a time and recently reloaded, now my HD is nearly full
>and windows just took 4 megs.
One of the rules for a permanent swap file is that it must be contiguous
(non-fragmented) space. I suspect that is more responsible for the
difference than the amount of free disk, in your case.
>I have read somewhere that the best rule of thumb is have your
>permanent swap file the same size as your regular RAM size. I have 4 megs
>of RAM and windows took 4 meg perm swap file. Works very well.
>In fact with my available HD space, about 20 megs it won't let me make
>the swap file any bigger.
>You should change your virtual mem swap file to 8 megs I think
>that is what you said your RAM was.
It depends on what you are running. We had to increase our swap
file (I think it is now 20MB) when some applications couldn't
run without *everything* else closed.
--
Mike Lipsie (work) mlipsie@ca.merl.com
Mitsubishi Electronic Research Laboratory (home) mikel@dosbears.UUCP
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
What I'd like to see is the more generic N-dimensional widget set.
I realize, that there wouldn't be a whole shitload of people
who'd want more than 3, but why stop?
All I need is a Widget with up to N viewports showing me different
3-D or 2-D slices of my stuff.
alter,
pat
--
pat@ritcsh.csh.rit.edu*paf3580@ritvax.rit.edu*paflecke@spectrum.xerox.com
*****************************************************************************
"All Objects are Macroscopic, Invisible, Non-Physical, or otherwise
Non-Heisenbergish. Fuck the Cat!" -- me
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <May.11.02.39.05.1993.28328@athos.rutgers.edu> carlson@ab24.larc.nasa.gov (Ann Carlson) writes:
[bible verses ag./ used ag. homosexuality deleted]
>Anyone who thinks being gay and Christianity are not compatible should
>check out Dignity, Integrity, More Light Presbyterian churches, Affirmation,
>MCC churches, etc. Meet some gay Christians, find out who they are, pray
>with them, discuss scripture with them, and only *then* form your opinion.
also check out the episcopal church -- although by no means all
episcopalians are sympathetic to homosexual men and women, there
certainly is a fairly large percentage (in my experience) who are. i
am good friends with an episcopalian minister who is ordained and
living in a monogamous homosexual relationship. this in no way
diminishes his ability to minister -- in fact he has a very
significant ministry with the gay and lesbian association of his
community, as well as a very significant aids ministry.
my uncle is gay and when i found this out i had a good long think
about what the bible has to say about this and what i feel God thinks
about this. obviously my conclusions may be wrong; nonetheless they
are my own and they feel right to me. i believe that the one
important thing that those who wrote the old and new testament
passages cited above did NOT know was that there is scientific
evidence to support that homosexuality is at least partly _inherent_
rather than completely learned. this means that to a certain extent
-- or to a great extent -- homosexuals cannot choose how to feel about
other people -- which is why reports of "curing" homosexuals always
chill me and make me feel ill. please not that, although i can't cite
sources where you can find this information, there is homosexual
behavior recorded among monkeys and other animals, which is in itself
suggestive that it is inherent rather than learned, or at least that
the word "unnatural" shouldn't really apply....
please remember that whatever you believe, gays and lesbians shoul not
be excluded from your love and acceptance. christ loved us all, and
we ALL sin. and he himself never said anything against homosexuals --
rather it is paul (who also came out with such wonderful wisdom as
"women shouldn't speak in church" and "women should keep their heads
covered in church" -- not exact quotations as i don't have my bible
handy) who says these things. i have a tendency to take some of the
things paul says with a grain of salt....
well, that's all i'll say for now.
>*************************************************
>*Dr. Ann B. Carlson (a.b.carlson@larc.nasa.gov) * O .
>*MS 366 * o _///_ //
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>*Hampton, VA 23681-0001 * \\\ \\
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vera noyes
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the lord is risen indeed. let's party!
noye@midway,uchicago.edu (vera noyes)
| 15soc.religion.christian |
nielsmm@imv.aau.dk (Niels Mikkel Michelsen) writes:
>Did I do the right thing?
Denmark, eh? Should have taken a short sword and cleaved his car
in half. Since I assume you didn't have a short sword on you,
I certainly have no problems with your choice of substitute action.
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
< ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. >
< USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines. Meet exciting, >
< unusual people. And flame them. >
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In a previous article, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) says:
>In article <1qkon8$3re@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>>larger engine. That's what the SHO is -- a slightly modified family
>>sedan with a powerful engine. They didn't even bother improving the
>>*brakes.*
>
> That shows how much you know about anything. The brakes on the
>SHO are very different - 9 inch (or 9.5? I forget) discs all around,
>vented in front. The normal Taurus setup is (smaller) discs front,
>drums rear.
one i saw had vented rears too...it was on a lot.
of course, the sales man was a fool..."titanium wheels"..yeah, right..
then later told me they were "magnesium"..more believable, but still
crap, since Al is so m uch cheaper, and just as good....
i tend to agree, tho that this still doesn't take the SHO up to "standard"
for running 130 on a regular basis. The brakes should be bigger, like
11" or so...take a look at the ones on the Corrados.(where they have
braking regulations).
DREW
| 7rec.autos |
In <18979@autodesk.COM> trs@Autodesk.COM (Tom Schroeder) writes:
>nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>> During the same time span, the Braves developed John Smoltz, Tom Glavine,
>> Steve Avery, David Justice, Ron Gant, and Jeff Blauser, among others.
>>
> Avery, I believe, came from the Phillies. Jeff Blauser?!?
Avery was the #2 overall pick by the Braves, behind Mark Lewis (I think) in
1988. John Smoltz came over to the Braves from the Tigers, but was developed
by the Braves. Jeff Blauser isn't a bad player.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic
"It is considered good to look wise, especially when not
overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
dhammers@pacific.? (David Hammerslag) writes:
>This paragraph brought to mind a question. How do you (Mormons) reconcile
>the idea of eternal marriage with Christ's statement that in the ressurection
>people will neither marry nor be given in marriage (Luke, chapt. 20)?
Here is the short answer: because only
certain marriages are recorded in Heaven.
Now for the long answer:
In Doctrine and Covenants section 132, the
chapter discussing eternal marriage (and, yes,
plural marriage), the distinction between
sealings under the priesthood and other
marriages is revealed.
When "the children of this world marry, or are
given in marriage" when they receive "the
resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are
given in marriage" (Luke 20:34-35).
Jesus was simply teaching that marriages "until
death do you part" are not in force after death.
However, the Doctrine and Covenants continues
describing eternal marriage.
D&C 132:19
And again, verily I say unto you, if a
man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and
by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is
sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise,
by him who is anointed this power and the keys
of this priesthood; ... [ shortened for brevity AI]
and shall be of full force when they are out of
the world; and they shall pass by the angels,
and the gods, which are set there, to their
exhaltation and glory in all things, as hath been
sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a
fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever
and ever.
The Lord told Peter "whatsoever thou shalt bind
on earth shall be bound in heaven" (Matt 16:19).
Do you doubt that Peter was given the power to
perform sealings?
Peter thought so because he taught that husbands
and wives were "heirs *together* of the grace of
life" (1 Peter 3:7).
"In order to obtain the highest" (degree of
celestial glory), a man must enter into this
order of the priesthood" (D&C 131:2).
When a man and wife are sealed they truly become
"one flesh" because their eternal "increase"
(destinies) are enjoined completely.
Our Father has an eternal companion (and maybe
more because of the plural marriage conditions
of the law) who participated in our creation
and is equally concerned with our progress here.
There is no scriptural basis for this doctrine.
If fact, the only mention of our Mother is in
one verse of a hymn written early in the history
of the Church:
O My Father
I had learned to call thee Father,
Through thy Spirit from on high,
But, until the key of knowledge
Was restored, I knew not why.
In the heav'ns are parents single?
No, the thought makes reason stare!
Truth is reason; truth eternal
Tells me I've a mother there.
Why don't we hear more about our Mother?
1. Because our Father presides under Priesthood
authority (which is not a calling for Her);
2. Because we don't all (necessarily) have the
same Mother it would be confusing for worship;
3. Because our Father wishes to withhold Her
name and titles because of how some people
degrade sacred things.
A IDLER
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <C5qyuG.LuF@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, garrod@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (David Garrod) writes:
|>In article <1993Apr19.132847.23755@hemlock.cray.com>, rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:
|>>
|>> Looks like the Branch Davidian is out of buisness.
|>>
|>> This morning the "police" (FBI/BATF) started ramming
|>> holes in the walls of buildings and shooting in tear gas.
|>> Shortly there after, a fire began that has now engulfed
|>> all the buildings in the compound. Only one Brach Davidian
|>> member has come out.
|>>
|>> Authorities are saying that Branch Davidian members were
|>> seen starting the fire. It looks like there will no
|>> witnesses to dispute that claim.
|>>
|>> There were ~90 adults an 19 children in the compound.
|>>
|>
|>
|>Funny, how the fire seemed to start on the right hand side of the
|>building just next to where a tank was backing away, though!
|>
|>Probably just a coincidence.
Watch the videotape carefully, the CNN coverage was fairly decisive.
The first fire starts in the Tower, this is three storeys high and there
is a flag to the right of it on the picture. The second fire starts
in another tower which is similar to the first only two storeys high.
The flag is on the left in the camera picture that shows this fire
starting.
Thus the camera pictures cleraly show the fire starting at two separate
locations. The FBI report a third. I was not able to verify it from the
videotape however someone else identified a fire shown to be starting behind
the small tower in the second (flag on left) camera angle.
The flames coming out of the building are yellow/orange. This is the
normal colour for carbon compounds burning. The flames were those of a
solid or confined liquid burning, not of a gas exploding.
The explosion that occurs mid way along the building is certainly not an
explosive though. The cloud itself is on fire. This would seem to
be most likely to be some sort of fuel oil store exploding rather than
the explosion of a magazine.
|>Funny, how considering there was to be a great cache of explosives
|>ammunition, etc in the compound, I did not see any series of explosions.
Depends entirely on how they were distributed. You would not be able
to identify ammunition rounds going off from video camera coverage
from a mile away. If and when the FBI release pictures from cmeras
on the armoured vehicles (which presumably exist) it might be possible to
get a clearer picture.
If anyone expects to see explosions hollywood style aka Rambo movies then
remember that in real life cars do not burst into flames when going over cliffs.
Just about the most you could expect would be to see the grenades
going off. Since the building was designed to be blast proof to some
extent it would be difficult to distinguish the grenades going off from
the collapse of the building due to the fire.
|>And, oops, the automatic weapons were probably burnt up in the fire
|>with the other witnesses.
Paranoia.
|>Unless, I see videotapes showing the davidians starting the fire, I
|>guess I may have a problem believing the feds saying they saw them
|>doing it, but couldn`t or didn`t manage to tape it. They have
|>been taping everything else.
You wouldn't beleive the FBI if they showed you a picture of Koresh himself
setting light to the place. Your mindset is such that you are simply
unable to accept as true anything that might suggest that a group of
heavily armed weapons fanatics might indeed be in the wrong.
The gun lobby can't accept that the B-D set light to the place because
that would mean that Koreh had murdered 17 children, that would mean that
their taking his account of the murder of 4 BATF agents would be even
less credible than it was to start with.
Koresh had 51 days to come out with his hands up and face a fair trial.
Instead he ordered the murder of everyone in the place.
Phill Hallam-Baker
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Some people working a few cubes over have come up with this need, and
it seems that someone out there just might have done it already, and
can point me to some tools that would help. What they'd like to do is:
Given a window that is taking a long time to draw (because either the
data is arriving over a slow link, or the $DISPLAY is across a slow
link), they would like to first paint a low-resolution version of the
picture, and then repaint it in higher resolution. Thus, the picture
might first be generated in 1/4 resolution, with each 4x4 square of
pixels being filled in with a single color. Next, each 4x4 square
would be replaced by 4 2x2 squares; finally the 1x1 version would be
painted.
Since one of the scenarios is with the window being on the other side
of a slow link, the low-res version obviously wouldn't be transmitted
as a bitmap; that wouldn't help at all. Instead, there would have to
be a process on the far end that receives the low-res picture as a
small bitmap, and blows up each pixel into a square (sorta like the
magnifier programs do). This brings up the question of whether the X
server can help. That is, when a window is opened, is there a way to
ask that a "filter" program be run to process the pixels? Or is the
only way to use something like rsh to start up a remote process
("Permission denied" ;-), and have it open a local window?
It seems the most likely scenario is a library routine that starts up
such a program remotely, and then accepts bitmaps, compressing each
one by some amount, and sending them to the remote program to expand.
But if there is something that X itself can do to help, it's be nice
to hear about it. (I looked in several FMs, but if it's there, I
obviously don't know the keywords ;-). If someone has a nifty tool
available that packages it all, we might want to get a copy.
Oh, yes; this is to run on some Suns. Part of the idea is to build
demos that can show such things as "If this were run across, say, a
4800-bps link, this is how fast the pictures would appear." Then the
customer would get a feel for the speed that they need to pay for.
--
If the auto industry were like the computer industry, a car would now
cost $5, would get 5000 miles to the gallon, and at random times would
explode, killing all its passengers.
| 5comp.windows.x |
I used to be on lopid. It did a good job of reducing cholesterol (295
down to around 214), as well as LDL and triglycerides. Then, I got
pneumonia, and for some reason, the Lopid stopped working very well;
cholesterol and triglycerides soared. The levels might have stabilized
over time, but a new doctor had me quit, wait a month, then switch
to Mevicore.
On Mevicore, my total cholesterol was down to 207, LDL was 108,
and HDL was 35; but the trig's were still
very high, around 318, and my liver tests came back slightly abnormal,
SGOT = 83 (N = 1-35), GGTP(?hard to read copy) = 42 (N = 0 - 35).
He said the liver numbers were not offbase enough to cause him
concern, and the triglycerides are not as important as the cholesterol
figures. He had me stop the Mevicore to allow the liver to heal ("Just
to be extra cautious, though I'm sure it's not a problem."),
and wants me to go back on it after that. I suggested maybe Lopid might
be the better choice, and he said that he wouldn't object if that's what
I want to do. But Lopid has one particular side effect I'm not fond of.
Should the above liver and trig figures be feared? What happens to
folks with high trig levels? Is my liver in danger with the above
results? Would I be better off on Lopid, despite its inconvenient
side effect, or, perhaps, some other drug? (Niacin affected my
liver, too).
| 13sci.med |
oldham@ces.cwru.edu (Daniel Oldham) writes:
>What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of
>had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the
>compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened.
SeAL Team six should have handled it? Delta Force? The
BATF had more than enough equipment and men. They did not have
good intel, but they did have poor planning. They fucked up. Even
in just the most basic military sense, they fucked up. Excuses do
not justify body counts.
>The BATF needs more people, better weapons and more armored
>transports. When they meet hostile fire they should be able to use
>more force instead of retreating to a stand off. If you are going to
>do a job then do it right. The BATF is there to protect us and they
>must have the proper equipment and people to do the job.
And your excuses fall upon deaf ears when the same BATF
has shown shitty leadership despite more people, better weapons,
and exclusive use of armor against their targets. BATF is nothing
more than a private army of the government. Do the agents swear an
oath, as I did, to uphold the Constitution? You know, that document
that stipulates the highest law of the land? If they do, they should
be up for charges in a court of law. Remember, the law? That's
the whole reason for any of this.
>With the WoD and the increased crime in the streets the BATF is needed
>more now then ever. If they blast away a few good fokes then that is
>the price we all have to pay for law and order in this country. Look
>at all the good people that died in wars to protect this great country
>of ours.
Yeah, I've been related to many of them. This is flame-bait,
right? I'm not paying your price. Mind if I sight in my guns on
your body? Think of it as the price you have to pay that we may all
live without fear of my making a stray shot. It's fine and dandy to
revel in the other guy being the target and your supposed safety. In
the military, we called this "chicken shit." Leadership from the rear.
The War on Drugs, despite being a catchy term for nothing more than
a continuation of policy since before this century, seems to have
gotten you convinced that my rights aren't worth your good vibes.
Mind if I cut your net access, as well as access to any and all forms
of expression? See, you make me nervous, what with you being able
to influence so many. I'm sure you can see how this is the price we
have to pay for freedom and liberty in this country, as well as
a fair and unbiased judiciary.
>With the arms build up in Waco they needed to hit that compound with
>mega fire power. They could of gone in there blasting and killed a few
>women and kids but it would of been better then letting them all burn
>to death 51 days later.
Mind if we include you in the body count? I'm sure we could
all file it under "civic improvement" and your life wouldn't have
been sacrificed in vain. If you like, you can will your estate to
defecit reduction, too. Now, when you learn how the law protects, or
doesn't protect, everybody equally and how our collective boot may
one day be on your collective throat, perhaps at that time you will
mature enough to realize just what you're talking about and how
serious this is.
Next time, include a smiley. While I hesitate to think that
you could have meant this seriously, it deserved a small flame anyway.
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
< ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. >
< USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines. Meet exciting, >
< unusual people. And flame them. >
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Dave Naehring X2079 P7630 (ep502dn@pts.mot.com) wrote:
: In article 2482@adobe.com, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
: >Every single piece of evidence we can find points to Major League Baseball
: >being 50% offense, 50% defense. A run scored is just as important as a run
: >prevented.
: >
: This certainly passes the "common sense test" for me, but is there any
: statistical evidence to say what percent of defense is pitching and what
: percent is fielding? I'd really like to know. BTW, Sherri, thanks for
: the DA data I find it fascinating.
One of the chapters in Palmer and Thorn's 'Hidden Game' is titled
'Pitching is 44% of Baseball,' implying that fielding is 6%. How do
they determine that? Beats me -- it's been a long, long time since I
read it.
One also has to separate offense into batting and baserunning, with the
split probably somewhere around 49.5% and 0.5%.
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traven@vms.cis.pitt.edu immature forever. -- Larry Andersen
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Kenton Shaver <ks3l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Lets see... what MS products don't have major bugs in them? Oh, but
>the fifth release the bugs are generally cleared up, even if their
Generally, the second or third major release usually takes care of it.
My advice, based on plenty of personal experience, is to never buy the
first version of anything from Microsoft. This includes major version
number upgrades from previous releases, such as Microsoft C 6.00.
Always wait at least for the "a" upgrade or slipstream upgrade if
you're going to buy it.
--
San Francisco is like granola: Take away the fruits and the nuts, and all you
have left are the flakes.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I am trying to build and use imake (X11R4) on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX V3.2.
I am having the following 2 problems.
(1) Many of my Imakefile's have contructs like
/**/#This is a makefile
at the start of lines to pass Makefile comments thru the C
preprocessor and into the Makefile. Most of the C preprocessors that
I have used will not treat such a # as appearing at the start of the
line. Thus the C preprocessor does not treat the hash symbol as the
start of a directive.
However the IBM cpp strips the comment and treats the hash symbol
as the start of a directive. The cpp fails when it determines
that "This" is not a known directive. I have temporarily hacked my
imake to handle this situation but would like to come up with a better
fix.
(2) Several Imakefiles use /**/ as a parameter to a macro when a particular
use of the macro does not need a value for the parameter. The AIX cpp
gives warnings about these situations but continues to work OK.
If you are familiar with these problems and have solutions, I would appreciate
information about on your solutions. (Perhaps, this is solved in a later
version of imake that I have not reviewed.) Also, do you know of other cpp's
that behave similarly?
Since I do not have easy access to News, a response to
'white_billy@po.gis.prc.com' would be appreciated.
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1qukk7INNd4l@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu
writes:
> However, that is almost overkill. Something more like this would probably
> make EVERYONE a lot happier:
>
> comp.graphics.programmer
> comp.graphics.hardware
> comp.graphics.apps
> comp.graphics.misc
That's closer, but I dislike "apps". "software" (vs. "hardware")
would be better. Would that engulf alt.graphics.pixutils? Or would
that be "programmer"?
I don't know if traffic is really heavy enough to warrant a newsgroup
split. Look how busy comp.graphics.research is (not).
It's true that a lot of the traffic here is rehashing FAQs and
discussing things that would probably be better diverted to
system-specific groups, but I don't know whether a split would help
or hurt that cause.
Maybe we need a comp.graphics.RTFB for all those people who can't be
bothered to read the fine books out there. Right, Dr. Rogers? :-)
ab
| 1comp.graphics |
Hey all:
I just moved to NYC and wondered if there are any electronics hackers
out there who could point me to places in NYC that sell individual
electronic components (switches, pots, transformers, caps,
transistors, etc.) "Radio Shack" doesn't count (they have almost no
selection, and their prices are outrageous!)
I have particular interest in audio components (amplifier IC's, power
MOSFETS, output transformers, tubes and tube sockets, pan pots,
faders, etc.)
I have checked out a lot of 48th street and Canal street so far with
no luck. Am I missing places, looking in the wrong place, or do I
have to resort to mail order?
thanks in advance,
--FritzM.
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1r3hgqINNdaa@uwm.edu> Rick Miller <rick@ee.uwm.edu> writes:
>jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
>>Seems like sombody didn't like your snooping around, Marc.
>
>Or, the more *likely* explanation is that Marc is spoofing.
While I didn't try the expansion personally, I know of at least two
other people who did and got the same results. Your allegation is
incorrect at best.
PGP 2 key by finger or e-mail
Eli ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <93122.153552N51BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <N51BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>Everyone seems to think that this man's mouse problem is mechanical (its dirty)
> I have been having a similar problem with my mouse, and it only occurs when ru
>nning windows and therefore cannot be mechanical in nature.
Its my understanding that bus mice are more accurate and "stable" in
general than serial mice. If I remember correctly, its because
of the differences in how the interrupts are handled, as well as
the fact that the mouse data is received over the computer bus
as opposed to a (9600 bps?) serial connection.
>I'm running a mouse
> systems compatible mouse on a 486 66 DX2 with a trident 1 meg video card and a
>m experienceing similar jumpiness as well as strange font subsitutions and mous
>e traces left on screen and windows gpf errors. HELP!!!
Is this just a general problem, or is it associated with a specific
application or group of applications?
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr23.153005.8237@starbase.trincoll.edu> () writes:
> In article <1r6h4vINN844@clem.handheld.com>, jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
> Arras) wrote:
> >
> > You seem to make two points. No one ultimately oversees the federal
agencies
> > you mention, and since Koresh "apparently" has a different view point from
your
> > Baptist upbringing, then he is not worthy of protection from religious
> > persecution. As to being the Messiah, is not Christ within us all?
> >
> > Must be comforting to belong to a government approved religion.
> >
> > Baptists are a cult, two, BTW, under most of the definitions in the
dictionary
> > of "cult".
> >
>
> I've yet to meet a group of Baptists who were stockpiling Cambell's soup
> and M-16's/AR-15's and banging/marrying thirteen yuear olds.
I don't recall saying Baptists do any of that. Though I suppose some do. And
none of them are listed in the dictionary as characteristics of a cult. My
mother stockpiled Campbells soup when it was on sale.
> You're a sorry
> son of a bitch if you can't draw a distinction between these two things.
You are an intolerent, foul-mouthed human. You sound like you are ready to
join the KKK or neo-nazis, with a narrow mind like yours.
> People like you cheapen our constitution by using it to defend sociopaths
> who aren't deserved of it. Get a life and chill on the paranoia.
>
Far from it, I defend the rights of anyone to be different under our
constitution, which was formed in part to protect religious cults which had
been persecuted in England before migrating here to be free. You are the one
endangering our constitution.
> joe.kusmierczak@mail.trincoll.edu
Jim
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that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93
"If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed
in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!"
WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Hi!
I don't know much about Mormons, and I want to know about serious independent
studies about the Book of Mormon.
I don't buy the 'official' story about the gold original taken to heaven,
but haven't read the Book of Mormon by myself (I have to much work learning
Biblical Hebrew), I will appreciate any comment about the results of study
in style, vocabulary, place-names, internal consistency, and so on.
For example: There is evidence for one-writer or multiple writers?
There are some mention about events, places, or historical persons later
discovered by archeologist?
Yours in Collen
Andres Grino Brandt Casilla 14801 - Santiago 21
agrino@enkidu.mic.cl Chile
No hay mas realidad que la realidad, y la razon es su profeta
| 0alt.atheism |
>>Can't someone describe someone's Trinity in simple declarative
>>sentences with words that have common meaning?
When I need a kick-butt God, or when I need assurance of the reality
of truth, I pray to God the Father.
When I need a friend, someone to put his arm around me and
cry with me, I pray to Jesus.
When I need strength or wisdom to get through a difficult situation,
I pray for the Holy Spirit.
I realize that the above will probably make some people cringe,
but what can I say? I think the doctrine of the trinity is
an attempt to reconcile Jesus being God and being distinct from
God, as described in the Bible.
I wonder if Jesus had been a Hindu how different the wording would be.
Chris Mussack
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I try to unsubscribe from this group by sending an email but that doesn't work.
Could some one tell me the listserv address and command for me to unsubcribe ?
I am leaving this Friday (30th April 93) and the mail box will overflow
soon after that.
Thanks
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Flexible Manufacturing Research and Development Centre (FMR&D)
McMaster University
1280 Main St. West
Hamilton, On L8S 4L7
Voice: (416) 529-7070 ext 2902 or 7343
Fax: (416) 572-7944
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| 5comp.windows.x |
Hi, I was looking for some helpful advice.
I'm a university student with about $7000 to spend, and I'm looking for a
used car. Does anyone have any useful advice they could offer to a first-
time buyer? I'm not looking for anything sporty, just something functional
and reliable (less maintenance costs). Anybody have any ideas on what models
might suit me?
Thanks
Sanjai
| 7rec.autos |
A few weeks ago I posted about the Phillies team personalities. Did anyone see the ESPN feature on the Phils on Monday Night. John Kruk had a great line. He was talking about people on the team always playing and not sitting out because of a minor injury. He said if they do they know we'll kick their ass. The
time I saw in was in the afternoon and it was not bleeped. When I saw it at
they bleeped "ass." Mitch Williams talked about the team being a bunch of
throwaways from other teams, and that is why they are so close. Kruk said that
they all get along this year. Last year, he said, they hated the pitchers. I
assume he was joking, but he always keeps a straight face when he talks. Oh,
What a team!!!!!
Rob Koffler
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
For Sale:
Complete Amiga 1000 computer system $450 or best offer
Amiga 1000
512k RAM
1 Internal, 1 External 3.5" floppy diskette drive
Detachable Keyboard
Two Button Mouse
RGB Monitor
All the above equipment is made by Commodore.
Send e-mail to allen@zansiii.millersv.edu or call (717)872-8944.
| 6misc.forsale |
douglas craig holland (holland@CS.ColoState.EDU) writes:
[...lostsa' crap deleted. trim your articles!...]
> What about guns with non-lethal bullets, like rubber or plastic
> bullets. Would those work very well in stopping an attack?
last i heard, "non-lethal" was a bit of a misnomer for these things.
jason
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian V. Hughes) writes:
>tzs@stein2.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
>>jbailey@world.std.com (jim bailey) writes:
>>>Yes, you get internal mixing of the analog CD-Audio outputs with
>>>the Mac generated audio on the Mac motherboard. Also you can sample
>>>the CD-Audio using the sound control panel by clicking on the Options
>>>button next to the microphone icon.
>>How do you click on the Options button? I've never seen it undimmed.
> The latest word on this is you have to disconnect the Microphone
>cable on the motherboard. Then the button is supposed to un-dim.
>-Hades
Sorry, I assumed that the the various new machines with the internal
CD-ROM bay worked the same as the Quadra 900. Obviously they don't.
I can use any of three inputs by changing the radio button under
the sound cp on my Quadra 900, Microphone, External, and CD-ROM. I
always leave the microphone plugged in (even though I never use
it).
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
"Bare" means what it says. You get a case, a power supply, and a motherboard
(with RAM and a coprocessor). *Everything* else is yours to add as you like.
The case/power supply:
- Standard desktop case. 230watt power supply with the usual connectors.
- Room for five floppy/hard drives (three visible, two internal).
The motherboard:
- US-made Micronics 8-slot motherboard with Intel 386dx/25mhz CPU
- 64kb SRAM cache
- 4mb 80us RAM using 4x1mb simms (worth $150 alone)
- Cyrix 83D87 math coprocessor (worth $90 alone)
- Norton SI 6.0 rating of 26.1
- Latest version Phoenix BIOS
Please do not post/email saying "but I can get a Taiwanese SuperClone
386/90 for only $9.95 including a free toaster!". I am *certain* you can
find a cheaper Brand X board without even breaking a sweat. *New* Micronics
CPUs command a several-hundred dollar premium because they are US-made,
use high-quality components, and are known to be both very reliable and
compatible. They have been OEMed in systems sold by both Gateway and
Zeos at various points in the past. (Check out the ads in the back pages
of Byte or PC Magazine if you want to see this price differential for
yourself.)
Price: $495 complete, $100 less if you don't want/need the case and
power supply. The board is fully guaranteed. Email for further details
or for any questions.
Thanks!
--
David Ruggiero (jdavid@halcyon.com) Seattle, WA: Home of the Moss People
| 6misc.forsale |
Why are the Red Sox in first place? Eight games into the season, they
already have two wins each from Clemens and Viola. Clemens starts
again tonight, on three days rest.
What's up? Are the Sox going with a four-man rotation? Is this why
Hesketh was used in relief last night?
Hm.
Cheers,
-Valentine
P.S. I was wrong. The Sox have already scored 18 runs in two games
this week. They should reach 25 without trouble. I still think it's
a fluke.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Does anyone know of the whereabouts of technical reports that
I can access via the Internet?
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| 12sci.electronics |
ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
> I think some of you guys think that the volume of your
>responses and their harshness somehow increases their factual
>accuracy. I especially deplore the attempts to call me a racist
>(as many of you have done). You guys think just because
>there are more unreasonable Israelis on this PCNEWS channel
>than all other denominations combined (Including reasonable
>Israelis) that somehow makes you right. Well you're wrong.
> I just started reading this stuff last sunday and
>thought I might butt in since there were severe information
>problem on the part of some people. I thought that through
>somewhat intelligent conversation we might enlighten each
>other.
That would be nice, but considering professional diplomats between Israel and
Athe Arabs have been unable to do so for 45 years, I can't see us starting.
But hey - as soon as anyone wants to discuss things reasonably and in a
scholarly manner, count me in.
Anyway the responses were mostly negative and I've been
>called a racist and an anti-semite so many times that it seems
>assumed about me in people's postings. When I shared this with
>some of my friends it appears that they have had similar
>experiences. The overall harsh language coupled with the
>occasional death threats and attempts to get them disconnected
>have convinced many to look elsewhere for true discussions and
>unsubscribe to the newsgroup.
People have very strong opinions and you need to be careful regarding what
you say - if you say, make it factual and be able to back it up.
> I don't know if you're paid Israeli lobbyists or just
>concerned, but it seems that toning down the harsh rhetoric
>might be more helpful to your cause than name-calling ,
>attempting to disconnect and death threats. Just a tip about
>how things work in the civilized world.
Thanks for teaching us about the civilized world, Andi. I guess we all just
came out either the desert or the ghetto, right? And no, we are not paid
Israeli lobbyists nor are we conspirators of the ZOG - we are just people who
believe in our cause and find offense when people imply some sort dirty dealing
or disloyalty due to our love of Israel (disguised as "paid Israeli lobbyists" -
what kind of image is that?)
>P.S. I understand that not all of you are involved in all this
>but many of you are contributing to the atmosphere.
>P.P.S. Just to clear up something, I don't think than the Jews
>are necessarily any worse than other people as a whole if such a
>distinction between cultures shall be made(I don't personally
>believe in judging people by their religion, culture or race.)
Oh! Thank you! I needed your approval of my heritage. I guess I can go home
and feel good now and sleep comfartably knowing that Jews _really_ aren't
worse people than anyone else, contrary to what we all _know_ is true.
Ed.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
I'm trying to bring in 8+ bits to a PC, and would like
to use interrupt-driven routines. Without buying an IO
board or making a new port, _where_ can I bring in these
bits? LPT seems to have only a few inputs, but I've heard
rumours that some LPTs have bidirectional lines. Anybody
know fer sure? If any bi-d LPTs, which boards have them
(I'll be running a new 386DX-33)?
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to all SunRayce '93 competitors: I hope you're getting
about as much sleep as I am.....
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <C5s6As.Kwo@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pmy@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU (Pete Yadlowsky) writes:
>>>Well, when the nice federal officers come to my house to check out my
>>>extensive weapons cache, I'll just be sure not to shoot at them.
>>>"Tea, ladies and gentlemen?"
>>Actually, that's pretty much wht the "Branch Davidian" siad when
>>the local Sherrif knocked on their door.
>>Of course, when armed men assaulted them without warrning, it was a
>>different matter...
>Why? Did they not know that these men were federal officers?
Do you know what a "no-knock search" is?
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Turkey Casserole
that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ... Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
-- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)
Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
| 19talk.religion.misc |
blaisec@sr.hp.com (Blaise Cirelli) writes:
>So the question I have is "HOW DANGEROUS IS RIDING"?
sorta.
>The next question I have is what bike would you recommend for
>a first time rider.
'88 Honda Hawk
YMMV.
--
Paul Thompson Apple Computer
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Archive-name: rec-autos/part5
[this article is one of a pair of articles containing commonly
asked automotive questions; the other article contains questions
more geared to the automotive enthusiast, and so is not crossposted
to misc.consumers. -- rpw]
[changes as of 14 April 1993: revised brake fluid section, as
non-silicone DOT-5 fluids are now apparently available -- rpw]
Commonly Asked Automotive Questions
Tire Questions:
Q: What do the funny numbers on the sides of my tires mean?
A: Typically, you will see something like 195/60HR14. the 195 is the
overall width of the tire in millimeters, the tread is usually
narrower. The 60 is the `aspect ratio'; it indicates the height of the
sidewall of the tire relative to the overall width. Our example tire
has a sidewall height of 0.60 * 195 ~= 117 mm. The 14 is the wheel
diameter in inches; there are also some special tires called `TRX'
tires which have three digit metric wheel diameter designations, like
390, which is in millimeters. The R means Radial, and the H is a speed
rating indicating the highest speed at which the tire, when properly
inflated and carrying an appropriate load, may safely operate. Common
speed ratings are S (112MPH), T (118MPH), H (130MPH), and V (up to
150MPH.)
Recent changes to the method for specifying tire sizes move the speed
rating to a different part of the designation; you may therefore find
designations like 195/60R14 85H; the 85 indicates the per-tire load
associated with the speed rating -- exceeding this load in continuous
operation at the rated speed is dangerous practice. What follows is
a table showing a number of `load indices' and corresponding maximum
per-tire loads:
Load Index 50 51 88 89 112 113 145 149 157
Max Load (Kg) 190 195 560 580 1120 1150 2900 3250 4125
Note that the usual mass vs. weight confusion occurs in this table.
In some cases, the letters P or LT may be found in front of a tire
size; the LT designation indicates Light Truck, and the P designation
indicates Passenger car. If no letter is given, then the application
of the tire is Passenger car usage. As far as I know, these letters
only appear in the US market. The LT designation is prinicipally of
interest to owners of light trucks and other utility vehicles. For
the owner of a passenger vehicle, there is no meaningful difference
between a tire with a P designation and one with no designation at
all.
If the aspect ratio is omitted, it is probably 80, but may be 78.
Tires with an MS (mud/snow) designation may have their speed rating
reduced by 20 km/h (about 12mph.)
There is an additional set of ratings on tires for temperature,
traction, and treadwear. Temperature and Traction are graded
A, B, and C (with A the best and C the worst); treadwear is
a numeric rating. These values are of limited value, as they
are assigned somewhat arbitrarily by tire manufacturers and are
thus not useful in comparing different brands of tires.
Q: My car has tires with a funny size designation: 185/65HR390; can i put
normal tires on the car?
A: Your tires are called TRX tires; they were devised by Michelin.
Because of a somewhat different bead design, they are incompatible
with normal tires; Michelin used a different diameter wheel for them
so that they could not be mounted on the wrong type wheel (and so that
more conventional tires could not be mounted on TRX type wheels.)
You will need to aquire different wheels to put a normal tire on your
car; it is barely possible to fit normal tires on TRX wheels, and horribly
dangerous to do so (the tires may simply peel off the rims in a corner,
or possibly blow out at high speed.) TRX type tires are becoming hard
to find; in addition to Michelin, Avon makes suitable tires. Goodyear
has apparently discontinued their line of TRX tires.
Q: Can I rotate radials from side to side, or rotate them only on one side
of my car?
A: Car and tire manufacturers have differing views on this subject; many
say that swapping radials between the left and right hand sides of a
car is now ok (this group includes Michelin and Goodyear); others
(for example, Pirelli and Nokia) will void warranties if such swapping
is done. The best advice is to read your tire manual carefully before
rotating your tires, and stick to the manufacturer's recommendations.
Q: How many snow tires should I buy, and if I buy 2, which end of the
car should I put them on?
A: In short, 4, and both ends. To explain, many drivers in areas that don't
get excessive snow or who don't drive agressively (or at all) in snow
conditions get away with only two snows on the drive wheels, but there
are circumstances where this can be dangerous practice. With a rear
wheel drive car, you can choose between being able to start the car
going (a function of the rear axle) or stopping and turning the car
(a function of the front axle.) In a front wheel drive car, you start,
stop, and turn with the front end. The primary risk of putting the
snow tires on the front only is that if you have to put on the brakes
while going downhill, you run a serious risk of going downhill backwards.
Radar Detectors and Speed Limits:
Q: Why aren't there any comments on Radar Detectors and Speed Limits
in this Q&A posting?
A: Because questions about detectors and speed limits crossposted between
misc.consumers and rec.autos.* always start long, tedious, and pointless
flame wars. If you want to talk about either of these topics, please
subscribe to rec.autos or alt.flame and keep it there.
Safety Equipment:
Q: Do airbags really work?
A: Preliminary statistics suggest the following: Airbags work much
better than no belts; good 3 point belts alone work much better than
Airbags alone, and AirBags + 3 point belts work slightly better than
3 point belts alone. The con to airbags is that some designs tend
to burn the driver's hands when venting the byproducts of the
explosion that occurs inside the bag, and that some designs (but
not all) may knock the driver's hands from the wheel, making retention
of control of the vehicle after the bag deflates more difficult.
Brake Questions:
Q: Do I always need to get the rotors on my disk brakes turned? Midas
always wants to do this.
A: No. There are specific conditions that mandate turning or replacing
rotors; some shops try and make a little extra money by replacing rotors
more often than is strictly necessary. if the rotors are not warped
warped, and only lightly grooved, then there is no need to replace or
to turn them. Note also that some rotors (the rotors on many Hondas
are a good example) are so narrow to begin with that it is not practical
to turn them; they must be replaced when they become too thin, warped,
or badly grooved.
Q: They tell me I should downshift when braking to slow my car down. Is
this really a good idea?
A: It used to be a very good idea, back in the days of mediocre, fade
prone drum brakes. In modern disc brake equipped cars, use of
downshifting to slow the car is not really necessary, except in cases
of long, steep downhill runs. Otherwise, modern disc brakes are more
than adequate to stop a passenger car in all circumstances, and they
are much cheaper to repair than clutch linings.
On the other hand, many standard driver's license tests in the USA
still specify that the driver being tested downshift under braking; I
suggest that before taking a US driver's test, you either 1) learn to
do this smoothly (which takes some time and practice) or 2) borrow a
car with an automatic to take the test.
Q: How often should I replace my brake fluid?
A: Probably more often than you do. Traditional brake fluids tend to
absorb water; this water can corrode internal parts of the brake
system and also lower the boiling point of the fluid. DOT-3 type
are older fluids; DOT-4 and DOT-5 are newer specifications. The
principal differences are in wet and dry boiling points; the dry
boiling point is important in fresh brake fluid, but the wet boiling
point is important in older brake fluid. DOT-3 fluids have the lowest
wet and dry boiling point _requirements_; DOT-4 fluids have better
boiling point requirements; and DOT-5 fluids have the best boiling
point requirements (but DOT-5 fluids are not clearly superior; see
the next Q&A for more details.) While the requirements imply that
DOT-4 fluids are better than DOT-3 fluids, there may be specific
cases where a DOT-3 fluid is preferable, but these are mostly
competition applications. Otherwise, DOT-4 type fluids offer _much_
improved brake pedal feel. Replacement once a year is recommended for
DOT-4 fluids, although agressive drivers may profit by changing out
fluid more frequently, or at least bleeding a modest amount of fluid
out of the brake calipers fairly regularly.
Q: What about DOT-5 brake fluids?
A: This breaks down in to two parts. The DOT-5 specification looks
excellent for performance, but the first DOT-5 fluids were Silicone
based. Silicone fluids are a tricky proposition. Unlike DOT-3 and
DOT-4 fluids, they do not absorb water at all. While this may sound
like a feature, the problem is that any water present pools up in
such systems, interfering with braking performance and corroding any
metals at the spot where the pooling is occuring. The water will tend
to migrate downwards in the braking system to the brake calipers, where
most of the corrosion occurs.
Because of this phenomenon, it is essential when converting to
Silicone to empty the entire brake system and flush it throughly
beforehand; some even recommend replacing all rubber parts in the
brake system when converting to Silicone fluids.
Two other issues that come up with silicone fluids: 1) they are
difficult to pour cleanly (that is, without air bubbles), which
interferes with getting a good brake pedal feel, and 2) while they
generally have much higher boiling points than DOT-4 fluids, they
do have high temperature failure modes which are indistinguishable
in effect from boiling DOT-4 fluids. SIlicone fluids may make sense
in some street car applications, but they are certainly not
recommended for high performance driving applications, and the
economics are questionable for street use.
I have recently become aware of new fluids that meet the DOT-5 standard
that do not contain Silicones; these fluids appear to be reasonably
compatible with the older DOT-3 and DOT-4 fluids, but I have little
information at this time.
Q: ABS is available on some of the cars I'm looking at, but it costs
more. Is it worth it?
A: This does not have a cut and dried answer; therefore, this answer will
be quite long in order to cover the pros and cons. The short answer
is that ABS costs more, both initially, and to maintain, will generally
work better for the `average driver' (that is to say, a driver who does
not have extensive experience in high performance driving techniques),
and may require the `unlearning' of some obsolete braking techniques
like pump braking which should be unlearned in any case.
Now for the long answer. ABS works by monitering the wheels of the
car, looking for signs of locked brakes. It may or may not be able
be able to distinguish between the different wheels (there are several
systems on the market.) It cannot detect impending lockup (which is
what you would really want in an ideal world), but only the existence
of lockup. The sensors used vary; some of the less well designed
sensors are sensitive to tire size, and to brake pad material, and
may cease to function properly if the owner deviates from original
equipment or OE-equivalent components.
When the sensors detect lockup, the ABS system responds by unlocking
the brakes (either individually, or all at once, depending on the
system.) If the driver keeps their foot firmly planted, the ABS
will end up cycling between the locked and unlocked states (if a
sensor existed that could detect _impending lockup_, then we could
sit right at that point, which is where maximum braking effect is
achieved.) This pulsing can often be felt in the brake pedal, as
the system cycles. The percentage of the time that the brakes are
truly engaged is called the `duty cycle'; typically in an ABS system
this is about 40% On dry pavement, a trained driver can beat this
duty cycle quite reliably using a technique called threshold braking;
on wet pavement, braking is so chancy that ABS will outperform
threshold braking nearly every time. Unfortunately, on mud and on
snow, often maximum braking effect can be acheived with the brakes
locked; only Audi, of the manufacturers producing ABS-equipped cars,
has seen fit to provide a disable switch for the ABS system for this
eventuality.
A particularly important feature of ABS is that it preserves
steering control. This is the case simply because, if you are
braking near the limit and turn the wheel, the ABS will release
the brakes if it sees steering-triggered lockup, and back off
on the percentage of the time that the brakes are applied.
Braking distances will lengthen accordingly.
An important caution: ABS cannot exceed the maximum theoretical
braking force in any given situation; if you start sliding on
glare ice, don't expect an ABS system to help you out very much.
The coefficient of friction is not changed by the presence of an
ABS system in your car.
As far as maintenence goes, in addition to the potential
restrictions I've listed above, you have to worry about the
following: 1) parts costs are much higher; the OE master cylinder
for my obscure european sedan lists for $185, but the OE master
cylinder for the ABS-equipped version of the same car lists for
over $1000. Most manufacturers explicitly forbid use of DOT-5
(silicone) brake fluids in ABS-equipped vehicles. Because of
the potential cost of replacement of corroded brake system
components, regular (I suggest annual) replacement of brake fluid
becomes very important.
Q: What about this threshold braking business?
A: [normally, I'd not put this in the consumers Q&A, but recent
publicity about a number of accidents involving police drivers
in ABS-equipped Chevy Caprices suggests that this section is
needed here -- rpw]
Threshold braking is a technique practiced by all serious high
performance drivers; if made a habit, it replaces the `stab
the pedal and lock 'em up' panic habit entirely, and is much
to be prefered. Basically, the premise is that tires generate
maximum braking force when they have just started to slide, but
just before the wheels lock up entirely. Drivers who threshold
brake learn to feel what this `threshold' feels like, and learn
to search for it and hit it on the application of the brake
pedal. In many cars, you can feel that you are near the
threshold when the pedal starts to firm up as you depress it.
In any case, if you can't hear the tires whine just a bit, you're
not very near the threshold.
In a car with ABS, often there is a twinge in the pedal just
before the system starts cycling; if the driver backs off on
the pedal just a tad when the twinge is felt, then they are very
close to the threshold and they'll probably achieve better
stopping distances than if they just punched it and let the ABS
take over.
Recently, there has been a rash of publicity over a number of
accidents, and one death, involving police cars equipped with
ABS systems. The police departments in question quickly blamed
the new ABS systems, but according to Autoweek magazine, it now
seems clear that the problem was a lack of training; none of the
involved officers had any recent performance driving training.
There is reason to believe that the drivers reacted to the pulsing
brake pedal by `pump braking', an old and discredited technique
of stabbing and releasing the brake pedal, the goal being to
try and get brakes back with a failing hydraulic system. If you
think about it for a minute, you'll realize that pump braking must
cut the effective operation of a working brake system by at least
1/2, so if you cut the 40% duty cycle of an ABS system by that
much, you are giving up most of your brakes for the wrong reason.
Threshold braking has the advantage in that it is an effective
and useful technique regardless of whether your car has ABS; if
you do fear a failed hydraulic system, then one or two stabs at
the pedal will be sufficient.
Gas Questions:
Q: Does High Octane gasoline help?
A: Maybe, maybe not. Some cars have knock sensors, and can adjust the
engine timing or turbocharger boost to suit the gasoline being used.
On most cars, however, you should use the cheapest gas that makes your
car run well. Check your owner's manual for details on what your car
needs.
Q: My car was made for leaded gasoline. Will unleaded gas hurt it?
A: It is possible that unleaded gas may *slightly* increase valve wear,
although the Amoco Oil company argues otherwise. The actual increase
in valve wear will be almost unnoticeable, however, as modern leaded
gasolines actually contain very little lead. You should, however,
check your owner's manual; many cars from the early 1970s do not
actually require leaded gasoline.
Q: Do fuel treatments help? What kind should I use?
A: Some do and some don't. During the winter, it is a good idea to use
dry gas; however, some may be harmful to fuel injection systems.
Never use an additive containing Methanol (sometimes called Methyl
Alcohol); such additives may damage fuel systems in cars with carbs
and almost certainly will damage cars with fuel injection.
Manufacturer's opinions vary on additives containing Ethanol (sometimes
called Ethyl Alcohol); if your car has fuel injection, check the owner's
manual on your car before using these. Most manufacturers consider
10% Ethanol acceptable in gasoline. Additives with Isopropyl Alcohol
(Isopropanol), and Petroleum Distillates are fine in fuel injected
cars.
An occasional bottle of fuel injector cleaner is helpful in cars with
fuel injectors, although many premium gasolines contain detergents that
do the same job. Some off brands of fuel injector cleaners contain
Ethanol or Methanol; always check the ingredients before putting anything
in your gas tank.
There are a small number of particularly good additives; these are
noticeably more expensive that the run-of-the-mill ones, but work
much, much better. Among these are Chevron Techron, Redline SL-1,
Wurth `Lubrimoly Ventil Sauber', and BG 44K. A bottle of one of these,
once every six months, is highly recommended.
Q: What about detergent gasolines?
A: The quality of detergent packages in gasolines varies somewhat; BMW
has instituted a testing program, and gasoline brands which pass this
test may advertise that fact. Stickers indicating passage of the test
are now beginning to appear on fuel pumps at gas stations. If such
gasolines are used, then fuel injector cleaners are probably optional.
Beforewarned that while use of BMW approved gasolines will keep a clean
engine clean, they may not clean a motor with bad valve deposits.
Lubrication Questions:
Q: What do the numbers and letters in a motor oil designation mean?
A: There are several different items encoded. There is a two-letter
code indicating the type of detergent package that the manufacturer
uses in the oil; this looks like SE,SF,CD or such. The S codes are
for gasoline engine applications; the C codes are for diesel engine
applications. The second letter is assigned in sequence as new levels
of protection are developed; thus SF is considered better than SE,
SE is considered better than SD, and so forth.
The more noticeable designation is the oil weight. This is either
a single number (e.g., 30 weight) or a pair of numbers separated by
the letter W (e.g., 10W30.) The latter type is much more commonly
used these days, and are the only type that most automobile
manufacturers specify in operators manuals. The first number in the
designation (10W) is the apparent viscosity of the oil when it is cold;
the W stands for `winter'. The second number (30) is the viscosity
of the oil when hot. There is a trick here; the oil doesn't actually
get thicker (turn from 10 weight to 30 weight) as it gets hotter. What
is actually happening is that when the oil is cold, it has the viscosity
of a cold 10 weight oil. as it gets hotter, it doesn't get thin as fast
as a 10W oil would; by the time it is up to temperature, it has the
viscosity of a hot 30 weight oil.
Note that these numbers actually specify ranges of viscosities; not
all 10W oils have exactly the same viscosity when cold, and not all
30 weight oils have the same viscosity when hot. Note also that the
novel behaviour of multi-grade oils is caused by additives, and it has
been reported that with the sole exception of Castrol GTX, 10W40 oils
do not retain their multi-grade characteristics well over time. 10W30,
15W40, and 20W50 oils work very well, though.
Q: Are `quick lube' places any good?
A: Some do adequate work, but there are quite a few incompetent ones out
there. Let the buyer beware, watch them while they work, make sure
that they don't overtorque the oil drain plug, and keep your hand on
your wallet at all times.
Q: Are oil additives like Slick-50 or Tufoil any good?
A: Slick-50 and Tufoil are PTFE-based additives. Many of these have
come onto the market recently; they are different from the moly-based
additives that have been around since the early 50's. PTFE is the
chemical name for Teflon(TM), a trademark owned by DuPont. In general,
auto manufacturers do not recommend use of these products. Most USENET
responses to questions on these additives are favorable (slight
increase of MPG after application, smoother revving) but long term
results (whether PTFE additives are effective after 5K miles) are
debatable. Some manufacturers (such as Saab) claim that either the
product or the engine flush that preceeds application causes
deterioration of the oil seals and eventual leakage. Some BMW owners
have reported death of valve seals shortly after the addition of
Slick 50 to their cars. This writer has been cautioned by a Slick-50
Dealer (!) that Slick-50 should _not_ be used in Japanese motors, as
it may clog the oil return passages in the engine. Otherwise, there are
no known reports of damage caused by PTFE additives.
On the other hand, there are satified Slick 50 customers in the world.
Q: Do synthetic oils really work?
A: Yes, but. More specifically, most auto manufactuers accept synthetics,
but disagree with the extremely long oil change intervals claimed by
oil manufacturers. Auto manufacturers recommend that you continue to
change oil at the intervals recommended in the owners manual for your
car. Even if you decide to try the longer intervals, at least change
the oil filter at regular intervals, as synthetics get just as dirty
as conventional oils.
Synthetic gear lubricants for manual transmissions are another matter
entirely; Amsoil, Redline, and AGIP are very highly regarded and very
effective. Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube gets mixed reviews, however.
Q: Manufacturers are specifying longer and longer oil change intervals.
How often should I change my oil?
A: It depends on how you drive. If your car always (or nearly always)
gets warmed up, and you don't drive it very hard and keep the revs
down, the manufacturer's recommendation is probably fine. If, however,
you drive it hard, drive it at high revs, or alternatively, if you
only drive it to and from the supermarket so that it doesn't get up
to temperature, then you may wish to change oil much more often,
perhaps at 3000 mile intervals (given that most manufacturers are
now specifying 7500 mile intervals.) If you don't drive your car
much at all (say 7500 miles a year), then you probably want to change
oil every six months anyway. If you are storing a car during the winter,
then change oil before storing it and change oil when you bring it out
of storage.
Misc. Questions:
Q: My car has a timing belt. I hear that bad things happen when they
break. What's the story?
A: It depends on the internal design of the motor. Early Ford Escorts,
for example, will suffer severe valve damage if the belt breaks, but
the newer cars will just require a tow and installation of a new belt.
Some Honda motors will not be damaged, but others will be.
If no replacement interval is specified for your car, then change the
belt at least every 60,000 miles; some cars may require more frequent
replacement. Ask your dealer or independent mechanic. Also, ask if
there are any related repairs that should take place at the same time
(for example, the same Ford Escorts that suffer valve damage also have
a timing belt driven water pump, which has been known to seize,
destroying the timing belt, and which then causes major valve damage
as a side effect. Replacing the timing belt while ignoring the water
pump can be a costly mistake.)
Q: Why would anyone be stupid enough to design a motor so that it
self destructs when the timing belt breaks?
A: For performance reasons. Compromising piston design so that the
valves and pistons will not collide requires that the compression
ratio of the engine be reduced significantly; this is why you are
more likely to avoid valve damage in economy cars than in performance
oriented vehicles.
Q: What causes Unintended Acceleration?
A: The final report of the National Highway, Transportation, and Safety
Administration concluded that unintended acceleration could not be
caused by any mechanical failure of the vehicle in question and at the
same time be consistent with the physical evidence. The NHTSA report
goes on to conclude that `pedal misapplication' by the vehicle operator
is probably the cause.
--
richard welty 518-393-7228 welty@cabot.balltown.cma.com
``Nothing good has ever been reported about the full rotation of
a race car about either its pitch or roll axis'' -- Carroll Smith
| 7rec.autos |
To my fellow Columbian, I must ask, why do you say that I engage
in fantasies? Arafat is a terrorist, who happens to have
a lot of pull among Palestinians. Can we ignore the two facts?
I doubt it.
Peace, roar lion roar, and other niceties,
Pete
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1483500346@igc.apc.org> cpr@igc.apc.org (Center for Policy Research) writes:
>Those who wish to learn something about the perversion of Judaism,
>should consult the masterly work by Yehoshua Harkabi, who was many
>years the head of Israeli Intelligence and an opponent of the PLO. His
>latest book was published in English and includes a very detailed analysis
>of Judeo-Nazism.
You mean he talks about those Jews, who, because of their self
hatred, spend all their time attacking Judaism, Jews, and Israel,
using the most despicable of anti-Semetic stereotypes?
I don't think we need to coin a term like "Jedeo-Nazism" to
refer to those Jews who, in their endless desire to be accepted by the
Nazis, do their dirty work for them. We can just call them house
Jews, fools, or anti-Semites from Jewish families.
I think "house Jews," a reference to a person of Jewish
ancestry who issues statements for a company or organization that
condemn Judaism is perfectly sufficeint. I think a few years free of
their anti-Semetic role models would do wonders for most of them.
Adam
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Hi there!
I wonder if anyone knows and can recommend me a good NuBus display
card for driving a 14" multisync (NEC 3D)?
The NEC 3D can do horizontal refresh from 15.5 kHz to 38 kHz and
vertical from 50 Hz to 90 Hz and can do max 1024x768 interlaced,
though I am looking for something more like 800x600 or 832x624
noninterlaced.
It would be very nice to find a card which can be programmed quite
freely within these limits and is capable to display at least
8bits/pixel, preferably more.
Is there anything on the market that comes even close?
Thanks
--
Jartsu
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
>In article <930424031634.176183@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL> Grant@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Lynn R Grant) writes:
>
>About 50 people so far have asked, "Once the FBI gets your Clipper keys,
>won't they be able to read all your future and past traffic?"
>
>There has been no response from NIST, NSA, Ms. Denning, Mr. Hellman, or
>anyone else who might be able to give us an authoritative answer.
>This is troubling.
It was implied in the first technical posting by Dorothy Denning that the
FBI would do the decryption *for* the law enforcement agencies. It wasn't
clear to me from the post whether this would be done in realtime or not, or
whether the FBI would just decrypt the session keys for the locals, or would
do the whole message.
One thing I'm a bit puzzled by: Why aren't they doing this with a public
key scheme of some sort? You could generate two uniqe public/private pairsor
for each chip. Then, escrow the private keys with the escrow agencies. Set
the protocol up to encrypt the session key with both public keys. To decrypt
a message, both escrow agencies (in the right order, for most PK schemes)
have to decrypt with the escrowed private key. This way, there wouldn't be
thecconcern that, once the police had asked fo a warrant/wiretap, they
would have your key forver.
--John Kelsey
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1993Apr16.175534.13478@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>We all seem to be in agreement that there are two explanations for why
>one can use the handlebars to lean a moving motorcycle. The question is,
>is one of the effect dominant, and which one is it? The idea would be to
>design an experiment which would seaprate the two characteristics, and
>see which effect produces a similar result to the one with which those of
>us who have bikes are familiar.
As you point out, the experiments would be difficult. But we know
enough about the physics of the situation to do some calculations.
There are in fact three effects contributing to leaning the bike over
to begin a turn.
1. Gyro effect causing a torque which twists the bike over.
2. Contact patch having shifted to one side, causing bike to fall over.
3. Contact patch being accelerated to the side, causing a
torque which twists the bike over.
Take an average bike/rider, average bike wheel, and at speeds of 5,
15, and 50 mph (say) calculate how much twist of the bars would be
needed to produce (say) 20 degrees of lean in (say) 2 seconds by each
effect alone. My guess is that at slow speeds 2 is dominant, and at
high speeds 3 is dominant, and at all speeds 1 contributes not far off
bugger all, relatively speaking.
By the way, a similar problem is this: how does a runner who wants to
run round a corner get leaned into the corner fast? Is there a running
group where we could start "counter-footing" arguments and have them
all falling over as they tried to work out how they go round corners?
--
Chris Malcolm cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence, Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK DoD #205
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Did anyone notice the words "NOT FOR BASEBALL" printed on the picture
of Joe Robbie Stadium in the Opening Day season preview section in USA
Today? Any reason given for this?
Also, I just noticed something looking at the Nolan Ryan timeline in
the preview. On 8/22/89, Rickey Henderson became Nolan's 5000th strikeout.
On 6/11/90 he pitched his 6th no-hitter against Oakland. I believe the
last out in the game was made by Rickey Henderson. And on 5/1/91, Nolan
pitched his 7th no-hitter on the same day a certain someone stole his
939th base, which overshadowed it. It seems that Nolan is having a lot of
publicity at Rickey's expense. IMO, Rickey deserves it, and it seems as
most of the net agrees with me from what I've seen on it lately. They are
both great players, but IMO, Nolan has outclassed Rickey, both in playing
and more importantly, in attitude. Just my thoughts.
Kevin
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <strnlghtC5t3K6.InF@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>>After the Waco Massacre and the Big Brother Wiretap Chip, any tactic
>>is fair.
>
>This is pernicious nonsense!
In what way David? Our government is totally out of control,
whether you realize it or not. I know you find it painful to
think of your old buddy Uncle Sam as evil but it's true. Other
democracies have fallen before. Ours is on its way and knee-jerk
sheep that instinctively trust government are helping it slide.
Power corrupts David, why is that so hard to understand?
| 11sci.crypt |
In article 2965@vall.dsv.su.se, matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>Rauno Haapaniemi (raunoh@otol.fi) wrote:
>
>> Earlier today I read an ad for REAL-3D animation & ray-tracing software
>> and it looked very convincing to me.
>
>Yes, it looks like very good indeed.
>
>> However, I don't own an Amiga and so I began to wonder, if there's a PC
>> version of it.
>
>Nope.
Did I not hear that there maybe some ports of Real3D Version2
in the pipeline somewhere, Possibly Unix. Not too sure though
please put me straight.
-Gary- WORK : SERC Daresbury Lab.
INTERNET: G.Coulter@Daresbury.AC.UK
UNI : Staffordshire University
HARDWARE: A2000/000/20 & A4000/040/120
>
>--
>=========================================================
>= Regards = email: = 1280x512x262000+ =
>= Mattias = matt-dah@dsv.su.se = I love it. =
>=========================================================
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <93111.12475032HNBAK@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, John Foster <32HNBAK@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
|> I find this method much better myself, too, although I do really
|> hate it when the bolt finally comes loose and the wrench and my
|> hand both come crashing into my face. After coming to, which is
|> about 15 minutes later, I change my clothes (because by this time
|> all the oil has drained *on* me), and ice my entire face and suck
|> down about 20 Tylenol to ease the pain. Later in the day I then
|> proceed with refilling the engine oil.
|>
|> It's just crazy how I try and change the oil on my cars in one
|> weekend---I go through about 3 bottles of Tylenol and 2 bags of ice.
Oh, that's not so bad. Every time I try to change the oil, I forget to
shut off the engine first. The hot oil comes out and scalds me, blinds
me, then the engine starts to overheat, and while I'm screaming in agony
and trying to crawl out from under the car, I grab the red hot exhaust
pipe and get third degree burns on my hands. My screams intensify as I
finally emerge from under the car, and I struggle to my feet in front of
the car, whereupon the radiator hose ruptures and sprays me with super
heated coolant. Then the engine seizes, but not before the cylinder head
explodes, piercing my flesh with fragments of red hot iron.
This happens every time. I'm starting to think I should pay the mechanic
$25 instead paying the hospital $250,000 and the dealer $25,000 for a new
car. This gets costly when you change the oil every 3000 miles.
- Toadface
| 7rec.autos |
AG Russell (arussell@austin.ibm.com) wrote:
: At the company I worked for previously, I received a file that was
: des encryped
: and the person that had sent it, went on vaction. Rather than wait
: two weeks
: I set up a straight frontal attack with one key at a time. It only
: took two(2)
: days to crack the file. No, I don't have any faith in DES.
Then it was either _really_ good luck or you had some _very_ fast
machine. DES has 2^56 possible keys, each two of which are simply
to convert into each other, so you have to expect 2^54 trial encryptions
in the mean case, assuming known plaintext.
2^54 / 2 / (24*60*60) / 1000000 is ca. 104250.
So you must have managed to do 104250 encryptions per microsecond.
CE Infosys builds a very fast DES chip that manages 2 (!) encryptions
per microsecond.
Yes, I'm not very seriously bothered about the security of DES yet;
though you might prefer to use triple DES or IDEA, both of which
use more key bits.
joerg
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| 11sci.crypt |
Our shop uses a package called CADCore - very good - to scan and
subsequently vectorize original maps into digital maps. The problem is that
once the raster file is loaded into the CADCore package, a header is added
to the .HRF file which makes it unreadable by the supplied converter. We
would like to be able to ship some of the already-altered raster images for
further use on our workstations. So, here are my questions:
(1) What is the Hitachi format? - I need this format so I can recognize
precisely what to strip out. I strongly suspect that it's a compressed
format - if so, then t might not be possible for me to strip out the
offending header.
(2) Are there any UNIX packages that read and recognize HRF? It would be
really nice to find some sort of "hrftopbm" converter out there. ;)
I've already searched some of the more well-known ftp sites which contain
graphics formats documentation, with no luck. So, if you know, or knwo
someone who knows - please email! Thanks.
| 1comp.graphics |
I have osteoarthritis, and my huband has just been diagnosed with diabetes
(type II, I guess--no insulin).
I've been trying to read up on these two conditions, and what really
surprises me is how few experiments have been done and how little is known.
Losing weight appears to be imperative for diabetes and advisable for
arthritis (at least, for -women- with arthritis), but, of course, the very
conditions that make weight loss advisable are part of the reason for the
weight gain.
For myself, I'm almost afraid to lose weight, because no matter how gentle
and sensible a diet I use (the last one was 1800-2000 calories, in about
eight small meals), the weight won't go off gradually and stay off.
Instead, it drops off precipitously, and then comes back on with much
interest, like bread on the waters.
With this experience, it's hard to be encouraging to my husband. All I can
suggest is to make it as gradual as possible.
Meanwhile, some experts recommend no sugar, others, no fat, others, just a
balanced diet. It's almost impossible to tell from their writings -which-
parts of their recommendations are supposed to help the condition, and
which are merely ideas the expert thinks are nifty.
Is it my imagination, or are these very old conditions very poorly
understood? Is it just that I'm used to pediatrician-talk ("It's strep;
give him this and he'll get well.") and so my expectations are too high?
Bonita Kale
| 13sci.med |
> ATTENTION: Mac Quadra owners: Many storage industry experts have
> concluded that Mac Quadras suffer from timing irregularities deviating
> from the standard SCSI specification. This results in silent corruption
> of data when used with some devices, including ultra-modern devices.
> Although I will not name the devices, since it is not their fault, an
> example would be a Sony 3.5 inch MO, without the special "Mac-compatible"
> firmware installed. One solution, sometimes, is to disable "blind writes"
>
To the best of my knowledge there aren't any problems with Quadras and
blind transfers. Trouble with blind transfers usually means the programmer
screwed up the TIBs or didn't test their driver with the device in question.
Well designed TIBs poll or loop at every point where delays of >16µsec occur.
This usually occurs at the first byte of each block of a transfer but some
devices can "hiccup" in the middle of blocks. If this happens in the middle
of a blind transfer there is the possibility of losing or gaining a byte
depending on which direction the tranfer was going. In anycase the SCSI Manager
will eventually return a phase error at the end of the transaction because
it is out of sync. Actual data loss would only occur if the driver didn't
pay attention to the errors coming back.
Note that this effect is not caused by anything actually on the SCSI Bus but
rather by the transfer loops inside the SCSI Manager. The problem occurs when
the processor bus errors trying to access the SCSI chip when the next byte
hasn't been clocked yet. Also note that the Bus Error is dealt with by a bus
error handler and doesn't crash the machine...
Clinton Bauder
Apple Computer
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Subject says it all, though I should specify that I'm looking for solutions
that DON'T require me purchasing specific chips, etc....
In other words, is there some sort of neural network circuit I could build
after a visit to a local R-Shack?
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1t6efv$1pj@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca> gel@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (Gilles KHOUZAM) writes:
>>Macsee.zip on ftp.cica.indiana.edu is supposed to read and write Mac disks.
>>I've never tried it, though. Good luck
>
>I just tried it, but I can't say that it works, 'cause it doesn't read 800K
>disks, it only reads 1.44Mb. If there a program that does read 800K disks,
>please let me know.
Well, you can't say that it don't work. The inability to read 800k mac
disks is not a SW problem. Rather, it's a HARDWARE limmitation on PCs.
I have seen a post about a program able to read non-1.44Mb Mac disks,
which comes with a watchamacalit <ma memory's faling> card, which you
just drop into a com port or something. Don't remember specifics, tho.
peace,
Mickey
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
What kind of CSA/UL/FCC approval do $60+ mail-order PC computer
cases and power supplies have?
Can I assume that the certification process for small-scale custom hardware
(ie digital/analog circuitry) is reduced, or even eliminated, if I use
such a case and (certified) power supply?
Also, assuming that I use a "certified" power supply, have I satisfied the
requirements of CSA/UL approval, and possibly FCC approval as well?
Do mail-order PC cases satisfy FCC certification? Is FCC certification
even necessary for scientific (non-commercial/non-residential) use?
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr5.011255.7295@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) writes:
>Now can we please use rec.scouting for the purpose for which it was
>established? Clearly we netnews voters decided that we did not want to
>provide a scouting newsgroup to give fringe groups a forum for their
>anti-societal political views.
Ok, this is the only thing I will comment on from Stan at this time...
part of this forum we call rec.scouting is for policy discussions and
related topics. This is a policy discussion, and involves related
topics. this is not a "fringe" group discussion. obviously, it
engenders strong feelings from all sides of the issues at hand.
Wether a particular view is anti-societal or not is your opinion,
and yours alone, don't try to make it seem otherwise.
If you do not wish to engage in this discussion, use a kill file.
If you wish to continue in this discussion, please do so, knowing
full well the implications that apply.
I know for myself that I plan on continuing with the discussion when
i have the wish to have input. I for one am tired of people trying to
say that this is not a matter significant for this group! It is, and
quite so. Especially for those of us who feel the impact more closely.
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| 0alt.atheism |
In article <VL812B2w165w@inqmind.bison.mb.ca> jim@inqmind.bison.mb.ca (jim jaworski) writes:
>What happens when DVC (Digital Videon Compression) is introduced next
>year and instead of just receiving squiggly lines on 2 or 3 channels
>we'll be receiving sqigglies on, let's see 3*10 = 30 channels eventually.
Since the digital transmission schemes include error correction and
concealment, the performance remains about the same down to a very low
carrier-to-noise ratio, below which it degrades very quickly. Hence,
digitally compressed TV is supposed to be less susceptible to interference
than amplitude modulated TV.
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| 12sci.electronics |
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