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In article <21APR199311301194@elroy.uh.edu> st1r8@elroy.uh.edu (B.J. Guillot) writes:
>In article <1993Apr20.074447.26955@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes...
>>Just poke out the little pins in the connector, and then replace them in
>>the correct slots.
>
>Is this reverisible? You can unpoke as easy as you poke?
>
Yep. I've done this, too. The trick is to use a tiny screwdriver and push
down on the "latch" of each pin and then pull it out of the connector. Label
each one first with tape so you don't get them confused after you've pulled
them out. Compare the pinout tables in the Mitsumi and Soundblaster manuals
to get the correct orientation.
Arlen Martin
AT&T
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In article <kluskens-190493142715@istari.nrl.navy.mil> Michael S
Kluskens, kluskens@radar.nrl.navy.mil writes:
>The problem mentioned last is a known Quadra SCSI problem, it was heavily
>discussed last year and an Apple employee pointed out that there was a
>one byte error in the SCSI driver routine for the Quadra's (at least the
>700
>and 900). System 7.1 should not have that problem, for most people the
>solution was to get an updated driver from the drive manufactor. In my
>case MASS Microsystems wrote a new driver which fixed the problem on my
>Quadra
>700, all that occured early last year.
Anyone know if there is an updated driver for Sony DAT drives? I can't
get mine to work with our 950 (see "Sony DAT / Retrospect Problems"
posted in this group) but I'm also having problems with other new macs...
Cheers, Matt.
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Joachim Martillo writes
>
>What a dope! There is no value for Mohammed Elabdellaoui to be here
>at a Western University. Third-worldist and Islamic brain-rot has
>made it impossible for him to acquire and analyze facts appropriately.
>
>
>Yes, the typical primitive Muslim psychopathological psychotic
>behavior upon hearing or reading a disagreeable fact -- start whining
>about the Jews. What a jerk.
>
>You should go back to your mindlessly stupid 3rd world country. Your
>brain has no business in a civilized first world country.
>
>Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami
If you were to substitute the word "Jew"/"Jewish" in this posting where you
see the word "Muslim"/"Islamic", switch Joachim and Mohammed's names around,
and then repost this, you would get a flood of messages attacking the author
as an anti-semite. And rightly so. The author of this crap is a racist, pure
and simple. He obviously has no qualms about being open with it, either,
unlike some other Arab- and Mulsim-bashers on the Net.
Now, I for one, am not going to look at Joachim's posting and infer from it
that all Jews think this way. Sure, there might be some, but this view is not
a part of Judaism, and it is stupid to believe that all Jews' minds are this
twisted. However, some Muslims might look at Joachim's flame as a
reaffirmation of their worst fears about Jews: that they all hate Arabs and
are racists.
For this reason, I am alarmed that not more Jews on the Net have spoken out
against what Joachim has said. They have the chance to possibly change the
anti-semitic views of some people on the net, to show them that all Jews do
*not* hate all Arabs and Muslims, just like all Muslims do *not* hate all
Jews. Yet they are missing that chance. Remember, to many people, silence
implies consent.
Peace.
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Archive-name: cryptography-faq/part08
Last-modified: 1993/4/15
FAQ for sci.crypt, part 8: Technical Miscellany
This is the eighth of ten parts of the sci.crypt FAQ. The parts are
mostly independent, but you should read the first part before the rest.
We don't have the time to send out missing parts by mail, so don't ask.
Notes such as ``[KAH67]'' refer to the reference list in the last part.
The sections of this FAQ are available via anonymous FTP to rtfm.mit.edu
as /pub/usenet/news.answers/cryptography-faq/part[xx]. The Cryptography
FAQ is posted to the newsgroups sci.crypt, sci.answers, and news.answers
every 21 days.
Contents
* How do I recover from lost passwords in WordPerfect?
* How do I break a Vigenere (repeated-key) cipher?
* How do I send encrypted mail under UNIX? [PGP, RIPEM, PEM, ...]
* Is the UNIX crypt command secure?
* How do I use compression with encryption?
* Is there an unbreakable cipher?
* What does ``random'' mean in cryptography?
* What is the unicity point (a.k.a. unicity distance)?
* What is key management and why is it important?
* Can I use pseudo-random or chaotic numbers as a key stream?
* What is the correct frequency list for English letters?
* What is the Enigma?
* How do I shuffle cards?
* Can I foil S/W pirates by encrypting my CD-ROM?
* Can you do automatic cryptanalysis of simple ciphers?
* What is the coding system used by VCR+?
* How do I recover from lost passwords in WordPerfect?
WordPerfect encryption has been shown to be very easy to break.
The method uses XOR with two repeating key streams: a typed password
and a byte-wide counter initialized to 1+<the password length>. Full
descriptions are given in Bennett [BEN87] and Bergen and Caelli
[BER91].
Chris Galas writes: ``Someone awhile back was looking for a way to
decrypt WordPerfect document files and I think I have a solution.
There is a software company named: Accessdata (87 East 600 South,
Orem, UT 84058), 1-800-658-5199 that has a software package that will
decrypt any WordPerfect, Lotus 1-2-3, Quatro-Pro, MS Excel and Paradox
files. The cost of the package is $185. Steep prices, but if you
think your pw key is less than 10 characters, (or 10 char) give them a
call and ask for the free demo disk. The demo disk will decrypt files
that have a 10 char or less pw key.''
* How do I break a Vigenere (repeated-key) cipher?
A repeated-key cipher, where the ciphertext is something like the
plaintext xor KEYKEYKEYKEY (and so on), is called a Vigenere cipher.
If the key is not too long and the plaintext is in English, do the
following:
1. Discover the length of the key by counting coincidences.
(See Gaines [GAI44], Sinkov [SIN66].) Trying each displacement of
the ciphertext against itself, count those bytes which are equal.
If the two ciphertext portions have used the same key, something
over 6% of the bytes will be equal. If they have used different
key, then less than 0.4% will be equal (assuming random 8-bit bytes
of key covering normal ASCII text). The smallest displacement which
indicates an equal key is the length of the repeated key.
2. Shift the text by that length and XOR it with itself. This
removes the key and leaves you with text XORed with itself. Since
English has about 1 bit of real information per byte, 2 streams of
text XORed together has 2 bits of info per 8-bit byte, providing
plenty of redundancy for choosing a unique decryption. (And in fact
one stream of text XORed with itself has just 1 bit per byte.)
If the key is short, it might be even easier to treat this as a
standard polyalphabetic substitution. All the old cryptanalysis
texts show how to break those. It's possible with those methods, in
the hands of an expert, if there's only ten times as much text as key.
See, for example, Gaines [GAI44], Sinkov [SIN66].
* How do I send encrypted mail under UNIX? [PGP, RIPEM, PEM, ...]
Here's one popular method, using the des command:
cat file | compress | des private_key | uuencode | mail
Meanwhile, there is a de jure Internet standard in the works called
PEM (Privacy Enhanced Mail). It is described in RFCs 1421 through
1424. To join the PEM mailing list, contact pem-dev-request@tis.com.
There is a beta version of PEM being tested at the time of this
writing.
There are also two programs available in the public domain for encrypting
mail: PGP and RIPEM. Both are available by FTP. Each has its own
newsgroup: alt.security.pgp and alt.security.ripem. Each has its own FAQ
as well.
PGP is most commonly used outside the USA since it uses the RSA algorithm
without a license and RSA's patent is valid only (or at least primarily)
in the USA.
RIPEM is most commonly used inside the USA since it uses the RSAREF which
is freely available within the USA but not available for shipment outside
the USA.
Since both programs use a secret key algorithm for encrypting the body of
the message (PGP used IDEA; RIPEM uses DES) and RSA for encrypting the
message key, they should be able to interoperate freely. Although there
have been repeated calls for each to understand the other's formats and
algorithm choices, no interoperation is available at this time (as far as
we know).
* Is the UNIX crypt command secure?
No. See [REE84]. There is a program available called cbw (crypt
breaker's workbench) which can be used to do ciphertext-only attacks
on files encrypted with crypt. One source for CBW is [FTPCB].
* How do I use compression with encryption?
A number of people have proposed doing perfect compression followed by
some simple encryption method (e.g., XOR with a repeated key).
Unfortunately, you can only compress perfectly if you know the exact
distribution of possible inputs. For all practical purposes it's
impossible to describe ``the typical English text'' beyond coarse
characteristics such as single-letter frequencies. You can build up
more and more sophisticated models of your inputs, but if the enemy
has a slightly more accurate model, he'll be able to find some
redundancy in your compressed output.
Note that nearly all practical compression schemes, unless they
have been designed with cryptography in mind, produce output that
actually starts off with high redundancy. For example, the output of
UNIX compress begins with a well-known three-byte ``magic number''
that can serve as an entering wedge for cryptanalysis.
This is not to say that compression before encryption is inherently a
bad idea; it just has to be done very, very carefully, and by no means
removes the need for strong encryption.
Compression after encryption is silly.
* Is there an unbreakable cipher?
Yes. The one-time pad is unbreakable; see part 4. Unfortunately the
one-time pad requires secure distribution of as much key material as
plaintext.
Of course, a cryptosystem need not be utterly unbreakable to be
useful. Rather, it needs to be strong enough to resist attacks by
likely enemies for whatever length of time the data it protects is
expected to remain valid.
* What does ``random'' mean in cryptography?
Cryptographic applications demand much more out of a pseudorandom
number generator than most applications. For a source of bits to be
cryptographically random, it must be computationally impossible to
predict what the Nth random bit will be given complete knowledge of
the algorithm or hardware generating the stream and the sequence of
0th through N-1st bits, for all N up to the lifetime of the source.
A software generator (also known as pseudo-random) has the function
of expanding a truly random seed to a longer string of apparently
random bits. This seed must be large enough not to be guessed by
the opponent. Ideally, it should also be truly random (perhaps
generated by a hardware random number source).
Those who have Sparcstation 1 workstations could, for example,
generate random numbers using the audio input device as a source of
entropy, by not connecting anything to it. For example,
cat /dev/audio | compress - >foo
gives a file of high entropy (not random but with much randomness in
it). One can then encrypt that file using part of itself as a key,
for example, to convert that seed entropy into a pseudo-random
string.
When looking for hardware devices to provide this entropy, it is
important really to measure the entropy rather than just assume that
because it looks complicated to a human, it must be "random". For
example, disk operation completion times sound like they might be
unpredictable (to many people) but a spinning disk is much like a
clock and its output completion times are relatively low in entropy.
* What is the unicity point (a.k.a. unicity distance)?
See [SHA49]. The unicity distance is an approximation to that amount
of ciphertext such that the sum of the real information (entropy) in
the corresponding source text and encryption key equals the number
of ciphertext bits used. Ciphertexts significantly longer than this
can be shown probably to have a unique decipherment. This is used to
back up a claim of the validity of a ciphertext-only cryptanalysis.
Ciphertexts significantly shorter than this are likely to have
multiple, equally valid decryptions and therefore to gain security
from the opponent's difficulty choosing the correct one.
Unicity distance, like all statistical or information-theoretic
measures, does not make deterministic predictions but rather gives
probabilistic results: namely, the minimum amount of ciphertext
for which it is likely that there is only a single intelligible
plaintext corresponding to the ciphertext, when all possible keys
are tried for the decryption. Working cryptologists don't normally
deal with unicity distance as such. Instead they directly determine
the likelihood of events of interest.
Let the unicity distance of a cipher be D characters. If fewer than
D ciphertext characters have been intercepted, then there is not
enough information to distinguish the real key from a set of
possible keys. DES has a unicity distance of 17.5 characters,
which is less than 3 ciphertext blocks (each block corresponds to
8 ASCII characters). This may seem alarmingly low at first, but
the unicity distance gives no indication of the computational work
required to find the key after approximately D characters have been
intercepted.
In fact, actual cryptanalysis seldom proceeds along the lines used
in discussing unicity distance. (Like other measures such as key
size, unicity distance is something that guarantees insecurity if
it's too small, but doesn't guarantee security if it's high.) Few
practical cryptosystems are absolutely impervious to analysis; all
manner of characteristics might serve as entering ``wedges'' to crack
some cipher messages. However, similar information-theoretic
considerations are occasionally useful, for example, to determine a
recommended key change interval for a particular cryptosystem.
Cryptanalysts also employ a variety of statistical and
information-theoretic tests to help guide the analysis in the most
promising directions.
Unfortunately, most literature on the application of information
statistics to cryptanalysis remains classified, even the seminal
1940 work of Alan Turing (see [KOZ84]). For some insight into the
possibilities, see [KUL68] and [GOO83].
* What is key management and why is it important?
One of the fundamental axioms of cryptography is that the enemy is in
full possession of the details of the general cryptographic system,
and lacks only the specific key data employed in the encryption. (Of
course, one would assume that the CIA does not make a habit of telling
Mossad about its cryptosystems, but Mossad probably finds out anyway.)
Repeated use of a finite amount of key provides redundancy that can
eventually facilitate cryptanalytic progress. Thus, especially in
modern communication systems where vast amounts of information are
transferred, both parties must have not only a sound cryptosystem but
also enough key material to cover the traffic.
Key management refers to the distribution, authentication, and
handling of keys.
A publicly accessible example of modern key management technology
is the STU III secure telephone unit, which for classified use
employs individual coded ``Crypto Ignition Keys'' and a central Key
Management Center operated by NSA. There is a hierarchy in that
certain CIKs are used by authorized cryptographic control
personnel to validate the issuance of individual traffic keys and
to perform installation/maintenance functions, such as the
reporting of lost CIKs.
This should give an inkling of the extent of the key management
problem. For public-key systems, there are several related issues,
many having to do with ``whom do you trust?''
* Can I use pseudo-random or chaotic numbers as a key stream?
Chaotic equations and fractals produce an apparent randomness from
relatively compact generators. Perhaps the simplest example is a
linear congruential sequence, one of the most popular types of random
number generators, where there is no obvious dependence between seeds
and outputs. Unfortunately the graph of any such sequence will, in a
high enough dimension, show up as a regular lattice. Mathematically
this lattice corresponds to structure which is notoriously easy for
cryptanalysts to exploit. More complicated generators have more
complicated structure, which is why they make interesting pictures---
but a cryptographically strong sequence will have no computable
structure at all.
See [KNU81], exercise 3.5-7; [REE77]; and [BOY89].
* What is the correct frequency list for English letters?
There are three answers to this question, each slightly deeper than
the one before. You can find the first answer in various books:
namely, a frequency list computed directly from a certain sample of
English text. Of course any such list will be ``correctly'' computed,
but exactly which list you get depends on which sample was taken.
The second answer is that the question doesn't make sense. What do
you mean by ``English letters''? The ``English language'' is not a
fixed, finite, closed object that can be exactly characterized. It
has changed over time; it is different between different authors.
Any particular message will have different statistics from those of
the language as a whole.
The third answer is that yes, no particular message is going to have
exactly the same characteristics as English in general, but for all
reasonable statistical uses these slight discrepancies won't matter.
In fact there's an entire field called ``Bayesian statistics'' (other
buzzwords are ``maximum entropy methods'' and ``maximum likelihood
estimation'') which studies questions like ``What's the chance that a
text with these letter frequencies is in English?'' and comes up with
reasonably robust answers.
So make your own list from your own samples of English text. It will
be good enough for practical work, if you use it properly.
* What is the Enigma?
``For a project in data security we are looking for sources of
information about the German Enigma code and how it was broken by
the British during WWII.''
See [WEL82], [DEA85], [KOZ84], [HOD83], [KAH91].
* How do I shuffle cards?
Card shuffling is a special case of the permutation of an array of
values, using a random or pseudo-random function. All possible output
permutations of this process should be equally likely. To do this, you
need a random function (modran(x)) which will produce a uniformly
distributed random integer in the interval [0..x-1]. Given that
function, you can shuffle with the following [C] code: (assuming ARRLTH
is the length of array arr[] and swap() interchanges values at the two
addresses given)
for ( n = ARRLTH-1; n > 0 ; n-- ) swap( &arr[modran( n+1 )], &arr[n] ) ;
modran(x) can not be achieved exactly with a simple (ranno() % x) since
ranno()'s interval may not be divisible by x, although in most cases the
error will be very small. To cover this case, one can take ranno()'s
modulus mod x, call that number y, and if ranno() returns a value less
than y, go back and get another ranno() value.
* Can I foil S/W pirates by encrypting my CD-ROM?
Someone will frequently express the desire to publish a CD-ROM with
possibly multiple pieces of software, perhaps with each encrypted
separately, and will want to use different keys for each user (perhaps
even good for only a limited period of time) in order to avoid piracy.
As far as we know, this is impossible, since there is nothing in standard
PC or workstation hardware which uniquely identifies the user at the
keyboard. If there were such an identification, then the CD-ROM could be
encrypted with a key based in part on the one sold to the user and in
part on the unique identifier. However, in this case the CD-ROM is one
of a kind and that defeats the intended purpose.
If the CD-ROM is to be encrypted once and then mass produced, there must
be a key (or set of keys) for that encryption produced at some stage in
the process. That key is useable with any copy of the CD-ROM's data.
The pirate needs only to isolate that key and sell it along with the
illegal copy.
* Can you do automatic cryptanalysis of simple ciphers?
schneier@chinet.chi.il.us (Bruce Schneier) says: AccessData of Orem,
Utah sells products that break the password scheme of a number of
popular Macintosh and PC software packages. Their telephone number
is (801) 224-6970
No PD software has been cited but there are many papers on the
subject....
Peleg, S. and Rosenfeld, A. "Breaking Substitution Ciphers Using a
Relaxation Algorithm" Comm. ACM Vol. 22(11) pp 598-605 (Nov. 1979)
Lucks, Michael, "A Constraint Satisfaction Algorithm for the
Automated Decryption of Simple Substitution Ciphers", Advances in
Cryptology -- CRYPTO '88, Springer Lecture Notes in Computer
Science, vol. 403 (The paper also contains references to earlier
work on the subject.)
John Carrol and Steve Martin, "The Automated Cryptanalysis of
Substitution Ciphers", Cryptologia, vol X number 4, Oct 86 p193-209.
John Carrol and Lynda Robbins, "Automated Cryptanalysis of
Polyalphabetic Ciphers", Cryptologia, vol XI number 4, Oct 87
p193-205
Martin Kochanski, "A Survey of Data Insecurity Packages",
Cryptologia, vol XI number 1, Jan 87 p1-15
Martin Kochanski, "Another Data Insecurity Package", Cryptologia,
vol XII number 3, July 88, p165-177.
Cryptologia Vol XIII Number 4 1989 pp 303-326.
King and Bahler, "Probabilistic Relaxation in the Cryptanalysis of
Simple Substitution Ciphers" Cryptologia 16(3):215-225.
King and Bahler, "An Algorithmic Solution of Sequential Homophonic
Ciphers". Cryptologia, April 93 (in press).
R. Spillman et.al., "Use of Genetic Algorithms in Cryptanalysis of
Simple Substitution Ciphers", Cryptologia, vol XVII Number 1, Jan 93
p31-44.
* What is the coding system used by VCR+?
One very frequently asked question in sci.crypt is about how the VCR+ codes
work. The following article attempts to describe it.
K. Shirriff, C. Welch, A. Kinsman, "Decoding a VCR Controller Code,"
Cryptologia, 16(3), July 1992, pp 227-234.
| 11sci.crypt |
To: regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard)
From: anthony.landreneau.ozonehole.com
AR>>To answer your question above, why should people who are
AR>>responsible pay for the irresponsible acts of others? One
AR>Don't understand the concept of insurance, do you Anthony?
On the contrary my friend.
AR>What is insurance for?
AR>To spread the cost of illness/accident/etc that does occur in a small
AR>percentage of cases, over many. Those who do not face the accident/etc
AR>have peace of mind that they would not be devestated if they did, those
AR>who do face the accident/etc *are* not devestated (financially anyhow)
AR>in dealing with it.
Insurance is usally taken out buy the people who engage in the action
for which insurance might be used. Would you ask a person who does not
drive to pay automobile insurance? Or a person who doesn't believe that
medicine is worth the time to by health insurance?
It is a pool of people who share a similer fear.
AR>This 'irresponsible' label in reference to normal but rare life occurances i
AR>stupid. Bad things happen to good people, too, you know.
Adrienne, when you act to endander yourself or
others, knowing that someone else may be burdened for your action is
irresponsible.
Anthony
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Seth> I fail to see any advantage whatsoever with this kind of
set-up.
Seth> What a DUMB idea.
So don't buy one.
Kristen
This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.
* Origin: Leo Technology (603)432-2517/432-0922 (HST/V32)
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
> My question is this: Is there a means of determining what the state
> of CapsLock and/or NumLock is?
Alright. Ignore this. I have delved a bit deeper (XKeyEvent) and
found what I was looking for.
ev->state has a bunch of masks to check against (LockMask is the one
for CapsLock). Unfortunately, it appears that the NumLock mask varies
from server to server. How does one tell what mask is numlock and
which are for Meta (Mod1Mask, Mod2Mask, Mod3Mask, Mod4Mask, Mod5Mask).
eg, SGI's vendor server has Mod2Mask being NumLock, whereas Solaris
1.0.1 OpenWindows 3.0 has Mod3Mask for NumLock. Is there an
unambiguous means of determining NumLock's mask at runtime for any
given server? Sorry for the wasted bandwidth and my appalling ignorance.
Thanks, Ralph
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C5sHLJ.ErE@trc.amoco.com> zrdf01@trc.amoco.com (Rusty Foreman) writes:
Has anyone taken a look at the new ViewSonic 17? They claim
1280x1024 at 76Hz. How does it compare with the T560i in terms of
price, and quality of display?
I'm interested in the new ViewSonic 17 as well. Has anyone seen one
of these monitors in the flesh?
- Tony
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <wayne.02uv@amtower.spacecoast.org> wayne@amtower.spacecoast.orgX-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith writes:
>> but I still want to know why it intrinsically better
>> (than IDE, on an ISA bus) when it comes to multi-tasking OS's when
>> managing data from a single SCSI hard drive.
>
>A SCSI controller that transfers data by DMA allows the cpu to request data
>from the hard drive and continue working while the controller gets the data
>and moves it to memory.
IDE also uses DMA techniques. I believe floppy controller also uses DMA,
and most A/D boards also use DMA. DMA is no big deal, and has nothing to
do directly with SCSI.
> For example, when rewinding or formatting a tape, the command is
>issued to the controller and the bus is released to allow access to other
>devices on the bus. This greatly increases productivity or, at least, do
>something else while backing up your hard drive :-). Which happens to be
>what I am doing while reading this group.
You can thank your software for that. If DOS had a few more brains, it
could format floppies etc. while you were doing something else. The
hardware will support it, but DOS (at least) won't. Again, this has
nothing to do with SCSI.
>Its a long story, but I still use IDE on my 486 except for the CDROM which,
>thanks to SCSI, I can move between both machines. If, and when, SCSI is
>better standardized and supported on the ibm-clone machines, I plan to
>completely get rid of IDE.
And if you stick with DOS you'll wonder why you can't multitask.
Again I ask why can't a UNIX or OS/2 type OS do all the miraculous things
with an IDE harddrive that it can with a (single) SCSI hard drive.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Iridology is descendant from a 19th-century theory which mapped certain
diseases to sectors of the iris of the eye. There's enough natural
variation in color that a skilled examiner can find indicators of
virtually any disease.
Modern scientists consider it to be complete bunk.
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr16.163712.2466@VFL.Paramax.COM> edd@gvlf4-a.gvl.unisys.com (Ed Dougherty) writes:
>
>As a Philly fan as as a Penna. baseball fan, I'm anxious to see the
>Penna. series. Anyone know when it starts and where the first games
>will be played?
>
>This is (I think) always good baseball (to me); and the Pirates are
>also off to a good start.
>
>Ed Doc
When is it did you say? Well let me shell out here and run this
handy dandy program....
$ mlb -m pit phi
And the answer is:
Monday, 5/10 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Tuesday, 5/11 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Wednesday, 5/12 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Friday, 6/25 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Saturday, 6/26 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:05 pm)
Sunday, 6/27 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (11:35 am)
Friday, 7/30 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Saturday, 7/31 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:05 pm)
Sunday, 8/ 1 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (11:35 am)
Monday, 9/27 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Tuesday, 9/28 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Wednesday, 9/29 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Thursday, 9/30 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
This is a great little program - its available at an ftp site near
you (unfortunatly I don't recall which one). Any schedule question
you got is answered with this little gem. Many thanks to the author
for providing this service.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Bob Davis (sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com) wrote:
: In article <C4tKGM.1v6@unix.portal.com>, wil@shell.portal.com (Ville V Walveranta) writes:
: |>
: |> Is there any way to connect two pointing devices to one serial
: |> port? I haven't tried this but I believe they would interfere
: |> with each other (?) even if only one at a time would be used.
: Just get an A-B switch for RS232. Look in Computer Shopper.
: They are available fairly cheap. They allow switching between two
: serial devices on a single port.
Unfortunately the poster wants to use an internal and an external modem so a
switch isn't going to help them. If you aren't using your com ports for
anything else, just define them on different com ports. Define your internal
modem to be say, com1, and your external modem to be com3. You really
shouldn't have to worry about interrupt conflicts since you won't be using
both modems at the same time :).
---
Christopher Chan-Nui | Investment in reliability will increase until it
channui@austin.ibm.com | exceeds the probable cost of errors, or until someone
#include <disclaimer.h> | insists on getting some useful work done.
| 1comp.graphics |
Gedaliah Friedenberg (friedenb@maple.egr.msu.edu) writes:
#In article <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
#(John W. Redelfs) writes:
#|>
#|> Now that Big Brother has rubbed out one minority religion in Waco, who
#|> is next? The Mormons or Jews?
#
#Give me a break. If the Mormons fortified Utah and armed it to the teeth,
#and were involved in illegal activity, then they deserve whatever they get.
# ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
#You are making a ludicrous suggestion.
As a Latter-day Saint, I found John's statement *not at all* ludicrous...
Please allow me to explain myself. In 1838, the governor of Missouri,
governor Boggs, issued his so-called "Mormon extermination order." The
only crime ("illegal activity") the Latter-day Saints had committed, was
their religious affiliation, their anti-slave stance (Missouri still
allowed slave practices), and their growing numbers/influence in Missouri.
I guess the Mormons "got what they deserved," because they refused to bow
to the will of (corrupt and evil) secular authorities. This "disobedience"
brought upon them persecution, murder, and finally forced expulsion from
their lands and settlements...
In the 1850s, the so-called "Utah-War" was forced upon the early Mormon
settlers, and their "illegal activities" consisted no less in living as
their conscience dictated, and to be sovereign/independant in Utah's
(or "Deseret Territory" as it was called at the time) constitutional
daily affairs. (In order to subdue this clear threat to the survival of
the United States of America, an entire army under the command of General
Johnson (hence "Johnson's Army"), invaded the territory to "restore"
Uncle Sam's law and order...)
History has the uncanny ability to draw certain parallels between events
that might appear unrelated, but are very much the same in spirit and
intent. That same mob- or persecution-prone attitude is to be found in
this user-group: when we tried to organize "soc.religion.mormon" and/or
"talk.religion.mormon," a whole bunch of "charitable" believers effectively
blocked our intent to create a group to discuss topics related to Mormonism
et al in an appropriate forum. We really must be a "threat" to various
establishments... Frustrating our legitimate rights for proper representa-
tion also belongs in the category of persecution. It is ironic that those
who oppose us, point to all kinds of "justifications" to do so, despite
their claims of adhering to a gospel of love...
In any regard, Mormon history alone indicates that secular authorities (and
I don't even discuss how Uthan's were suckered into allowing part of their
lands in becoming nerve-gas and atomic bomb testing grounds...) is far from
being trusted or righteous. Have things really changed for the better? I
may be a born cynic, but I have NO reason whatsoever that such has been the
case. In the early 1980s, I believe, the late President Kimball (lds church
leader), strongly protested federal attempts to locate the MX-"Peace Keeper"
missile maze from being built in Utah (yet another "inspired" decision from
secular authorities). Fortunately, his opposition was influential enough
for the feds to back off.
Lest anyone believe I do not believe in government: I do, but NOT without
questioning the wisdom and constitutionality of their decisions and
resolves. The government's actions around the Mt. Carmel compound in Waco
was NOT wise, neither was it necessary. David Koresh did NOT pose a great
threat to the federal authorities or the security of this nation, and with
John, I too wonder who or what's next...
#|> We used to live in a country where everyone enjoyed the free exercise
#|> of their rights to worship and bear arms. Now we don't.
#
#Does that include the right to murder little children? How about killing
#ATF officers? I do not know much about the gun laws in Texas, but
#Koresh's folks claimed to have grenades, grenade launchers, and rocket
#launchers. I am not sure that the NRA feels that this falls under
#"right to bear arms."
Who killed who? What constitutional right did the ATF officers have to
invade upon private land and to force themselves into the compound?
What REALLY caused the "murder" of the little children? Could it be that
the ATF/FBI presence has any bearing upon the events? How would you
interpret the Mt. Masada events? --Blame the Jews? (What the heck did
the Romans do there anyway? What business did the ATF/FBI has in Waco,
Texas???) The Branch Davidians NEVER posed any threat to society.
David Koresh, no doubt, will be described as the "evil" guy (by the
executioners), while the actions of all those "valiant and brave" officers
may have been "regrettable," but alas, "necessary" to serve some dubious
public/national interest. --I guess they are still figuring it out how to
sell this one to the nation...
#|> Of course, to Jews and Mormons this is just a broken record. It has
#|> happened before.
#
#Please explain. I do not remember Jews or Mormons (as a group) overtly
#breaking a judicious (a.k.a. non-Nazi) law and being punished for it.
Read-Your-History. It HAS happened (as explained above in some detail),
and will undoubtedly happen again. Indeed, WHO IS NEXT. So-called "Illegal
activities" can be twisted and bend to suit anyone's need, including the
agendas of secular authorities...
#|> I'll bet all you cult haters are happy now, right? Just hope you're
#not next.
#
#Followups to /dev/null
#
#Alternative followups set to talk.religion.misc
#
#|> ------------ John W. Redelfs, cj195@cleveland.freenet.edu -------------
#|> --------- All my opinions are tentative pending further data. ---------
#
#Gedaliah Friedenberg
#-=-Department of Mechanical Engineering
#-=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science
Casper C. Knies isscck@byuvm.bitnet
Brigham Young University isscck@vm.byu.edu
UCS Computer Facilities
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Hitherto have ye asked nothing
in my name:
ask, and ye shall receive,
that your joy may be full.
John 16:24
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Justin Kibell (jck@catt.citri.edu.au) wrote:
: What has this got to do with comp.windows.x?
:
I agree that this is a side track, but it is funny that I skip so many
other articles (threads) but I couldn't resist reading this one.
My beliefs, opinions, and expressions are strictly my own and do not
represent or reflect any official or unofficial policies or attitudes
of any other person or organization....
but. I have heard that Ford Motor Company has (had) a recruiting bias
toward engineers and away from computer science graduates. The reasoning
is supposedly to better meet long range personnel requirements. This is
evidenced by the large number of CS people who are employed via contracts
and are not brought on board except in special circumstances. This is
a generalization which obviously doesn't always hold true, but there are
statistics. Furthermore, most "software engineering" at Ford gets done
by electrical engineers. I know of 2 univerities that have merged the
computer science department and the electrical engineering so that you
can get a computer degree which qualifies you for much more than programming.
But since my beliefs and opinions are merely figments of my distorted
imagination I suppose I should keep it to myself.
| 5comp.windows.x |
(please respond via email!)
Has anybody actually seen the Tek color space stuff working? I'm not
having any luck with either the xtici editor from export.lcs.mit.edu or with
O'Reilly's ftp-able example xcms from ftp.uu.net.
The O'Reilly example fails for almost every set of inputs because
XcmsTekHVCQueryMaxV returns a smaller value than XcmsTekHVCQueryMinV does
(which makes no sense to me).
The xtici editor fails in XcmsStoreColors, apparently because the
mathematical manipulations of the color specs results in invalid values. So
you can't actually edit any colors.
We have X11 R5 patch level 22; 8-bit pseudoColor visual. I've poked around
in the xcms code in Xlib, but without some understanding of the theory I have
no idea what's going wrong. Can somebody confirm if either of the
above-mentioned programs work on their systems, or let me know if they fail
for you too? Please include what hardware/software/patch levels you have.
Any hints?
Please respond with email as I don't regularly read this group.
Thanks,
Karen
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Karen Bircsak
Concurrent Computer Corporation
karenb@westford.ccur.com
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| 5comp.windows.x |
I'm replying to someone who asked for information on space camp.
I have a brochure that has all different schedules. What age, what
level and what program do you want to know the schedule of? Most of the
missions are 5 to 8 days long. The address for Huntsville is:
Alabama Space Science
Exhibit Commission
U.S. Space and Rocket Center
One Tranquility Base, Huntsville, AL 35807
- Jennifer
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******** WHY ARE WE HERE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN *********************??
| 14sci.space |
In article <lsran6INN14a@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
>In article <C5HqxJ.JDG@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
lis450bw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (lis450 Student) writes:
>>Hmmmm. Define objective morality. Well, depends upon who you talk to.
>>Some say it means you can't have your hair over your ears, and others say
>>it means Stryper is acceptable. _I_ would say that general principles
>>of objective morality would be listed in one or two places.
>>Ten Commandments
>>Sayings of Jesus
>>the first depends on whether you trust the Bible,
>>the second depends on both whether you think Jesus is God, and whether
>> you think we have accurate copies of the NT.
>Gong!
>Take a moment and look at what you just wrote. First you defined
>an "objective" morality and then you qualified this "objective" morality
>with subjective justifications. Do you see the error in this?
>Sorry, you have just disqualified yourself, but please play again.
I'm afraid it's much worse than this! Jesus said follow the Ten
Commandments AND the Torah And the Prophets. Christians on the other
hand are not only above the Ten Commandments AND the Torah AND the
Prophets, i.e. they believe that they do not have to follow it, they
don't even follow the subjective morality of Jesus! So, we see that
Christians can't follow the "objective morality" of their own Ten
Commandments, they can't follow the "subjective morality" of Jesus when
He said follow the Ten Commandments, yet they expect the rest of the
world to do; what? Is there any logic here? Is there any morality here,
objective or subjective? Is Christianity somebody's idea of a joke? Who
could be pulling the wool over the eyes of so many Christians? Who could
be such a great deceiver?
| 19talk.religion.misc |
I tried to install a foreign language Windows application
that required a file named WINNLS.DLL. I checked all of my
WIndows 3.1 installation disks for this file, but could not
find it. Does anybody have any idea what this file is for and
where one could get it from?
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr21.212202.1@aurora.alaska.edu>, nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu
writes:
> Here is a way to get the commericial companies into space and mineral
> exploration.
>
> Basically get the eci-freaks to make it so hard to get the minerals on earth..
> You think this is crazy. Well in a way it is, but in a way it is reality.
>
> There is a billin the congress to do just that.. Basically to make it so
> expensive to mine minerals in the US, unless you can by off the inspectors or
> tax collectors.. ascially what I understand from talking to a few miner friends
> of mine, that they (the congress) propose to have a tax on the gross income of
> the mine, versus the adjusted income, also the state governments have there
> normal taxes. So by the time you get done, paying for materials, workers, and
> other expenses you can owe more than what you made.
> BAsically if you make a 1000.00 and spend 500. ofor expenses, you can owe
> 600.00 in federal taxes.. Bascially it is driving the miners off the land.. And
> the only peopel who benefit are the eco-freaks..
>
> Basically to get back to my beginning statement, is space is the way to go
> cause it might just get to expensive to mine on earth because of either the
> eco-freaks or the protectionist..
> Such fun we have in these interesting times..
>
> ==
> Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
The current mining regulations and fees were set in the 1800's!
What the so-called "eco-freaks" want to do is to simply bring those
fees in line with current economic reality. Currently, mining companies
can get access to minerals on public lands for ridiculously low prices --
something like $50! The mining lobby has for decades managed to block
any reform of these outdated fees. In fact, the latest attempt to reform
them was again blocked -- President Clinton "compromised" by taking the
mining fee reforms out of his '94 budget, and plans to draft separate
legislation to fight that battle.
If you want to discuss this further, I suggest you take this to talk.environment.
G. Patrick Molloy
Huntsville, Alabama
| 14sci.space |
In article <1qie2rINN1b9@cae.cad.gatech.edu>, vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent Fox) writes:
|> In <93104.173826U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
|> [deleted]
|> [] And as far as fully-automatic weapons, you can be a lot better
|> []armed if you want to hit what you aim at.
|> []
|> >What seems to be happening here is the situation getting totally blown out of
|> >proportion. In my post I was referring to your regular patrolman in a car
|> >cruising around the city vs. gang members. Of course the police have access
|> >to the things that you mentioned but do they use tanks and such all of the
|> >time? Of course they don't and that's the point I was trying to make. Every
|> >day when I go out to lunch I always see cops coming in. The majority that I
|> >see are still carrying revolvers. Not that there is anything wrong with a
|> >revolver but if you're a cop that is up against some gang member with a couple
|> >of automatics in his coat (I mean semi-auto handguns) you're going to be at a
|> >disadvantage even with training. I have been at a shooting range where gang
|> >gang members were "practicing" shooting. They were actually practicing
|> >taking out their guns as quick as possible and shooting at the target
|> >and they weren't doing too badly either. The University cops here (who are
|> >are state cops) are armed better than the Chicago police. It seems most
|> >state cops are.
Every city and suburban police officer I've seen around the Twin Cities in the
last two years has carried a semi-auto of some type (different brands though
I haven't seen any Glock's).
With regard to this discussion: We are getting dangerously far from the usual
rantings of t.p.g, and close to the realm of r.g, but I'd like to put my two
cents worth in. While there's nothing wrong with a revolver (especially a
large frame S&W in .357 magnum - my favorite) there are valid advantages to
semi-autos. I suggest reading Massad Ayoob's (I know, some people can't stand
him and think he's full of bull, but I think that in general his material is
very valid and useful) book _The Semi Auto Pistol in Police Work_ (or something
like that). He defines a number of ways that semi-auto's are different, and that
"different is good". The main advantage is not in increased firepower, but in
more accurate followup shots when you go to single action mode. There is also a
certain "propriatory nature" of each gun that takes some familiarity to
learn. This may have diminished with time as more criminals become familiar
with different models of semi-autos, but it was cited as stopping or at least
slowing down criminals who had grabbed a police officers gun.
|>
|> Define "armed better". Go shoot a revolver and a semi-auto like the
|> Colt .45. Does one fires faster than the other? Nope. Aside from which
|> faster rate of fire is usually not desirable. Sure it makes the other
|> guys duck for cover, but just *YOU* trying hitting anything with a Thompson
|> in hose-mode. This is why the military is limiting it's M-16 now to
|> 3-round burst-fire. Simple semi-auto would be better, but the troops
|> like to be able to rock and roll even if it is wasteful of ammo (something
|> often in short supply when the enemy is plentiful).
|>
|> A revolver is equally capable as a semi-auto in the same caliber.
|>
|> - A revolver also has the advantage that if it misfires you just pull
|> the trigger again.
|> - A double-action revolver (almost all of them) can be hand-cocked first,
|> but will fire merely by pulling the trigger.
Yes, but this is best done with a two hand hold. With a single hand you either
pull the gun far off target to cock, or must fire double action. The DA semi
auto has the same advantages plus is always SA after the first shot.
|> - A misfire in a revolver merely means you must pull the trigger again
|> to rotate to the next round.
I'm not sure if this is meant to be different from your first point. In a DA
semi-auto you can pull the trigger again to try dropping the hammer on the same
round - an advantage you don't have in a revolver where the next trigger pull will
always go to the next round (discussing this point now). This is fine with a dud
but what about a hangfire situation? Granted it's very rare, but your round will
now go off confined in the cylinder with no place to go. Slingshotting the slide
on a misfire takes very little time.
|> - A revolver can be carried with the 6th chamber empty and under the
|> hammer for maximum safety, but still can be drawn and fired with an
|> easy motion, even one handed.
Actually with modern revolver designs incorporating hammer blocks this is not
necessary or usually recommended. A revolver would have to fall hard enough and
at the right angle to actually break the hammer and driver the firing pin into the
round to set it off.
|> - Speedloaders for a revolver allow reloads almost as fast as magazines
|> on semi-autos. Can be faster depending on users.
The best speedloader users, especially those using the spring loaded speed
loaders are very fast. A problem is that ejecting the spent cases is a two
handed job where dropping the expended magazine is one handed. This means that
while you can be inserting a fresh magazine as soon as the old one clears the
gun, with a speed loader you have to go through more motions that will always
take more time. You also don't have the advantage of tactical reloads (replacing
a partial magazine to bring you back to full capacity - the partial magazine can
still be used if needed later).
|>
|> - A misfire in a semi-auto will require you to clear a jammed shell
|> first, time spent which can be fatal. And a vital second or so is often
|> lost as you realize "hey, it's jammed!" before starting to do anything
|> about clearing it.
Yes, the time to recognize the problem is just as important as the time to clear
it. Really though, in either a revolver or semi-auto the odds of an actual misfire
with factory ammo are awfully small. You are more likely to get a jam in a semi-auto
but even these are exceptionally rare with modern quality guns (Sigs, Glocks, et.al.).
|> - Most semi-autos must have the slide worked to chamber the first round
|> and cock the hammer. Some police carry their semi-autos with the
|> chamber loaded and hammer cocked, but a safety engaged. I do not consider
|> this safe however. You must trade-off safety to get the same speed
|> of employment as a revolver.
|> - There are some double-action semi-autos out there, but the complexity of
|> operation of many of them requires more training.
All common semi-auto's can be carried with a round in their chamber without any
safety problems. While I put that out as a statement that I believe, I should
say that this applies to all of the ones I've looked at. For the DA semi's it's
no different from the revolver situation: The guns all have hammer or firing
pin blocks. They also have a safety. Because there's no real advantage
carrying one of these cocked and locked you have the same safety and speed
of employment as a revolver, plus the advantage of SA followup shots. I'm
not familiar with SA semi-autos except for the 1911-A1. I admit that I was
initially skeptical about carrying this cocked and locked, but after examining
the design, trying to defeat the safeties (gun unloaded of course), and
shooting it a lot, I see no inherent safety problems with it, especially in
a thumbreak holster with the strap under the hammer. This design also gets
you more speed for an accurate first shot than a revolver.
|>
|> Some police departments switched to Glocks, and then started quietly
|> switching many officers back to the old revolvers. Too many were having
|> accidents, partly due to the poor training they received. Not that Glocks
|> require rocket scientists, but some cops are baffled by something as complex
|> as the timer on a VCR.
Yeah, the infamous Glock. I still can't figure out how it's worse than a revolver
for safety. If you don't pull the trigger it doesn't go off. I imagine that if all
your revolver shooting was done double action then you could pull the Glock trigger
far enough to fire before you realized it. In addition, if you had developed that
nasty habit of keeping your finger on the trigger when holstering your gun and
relying on your thumb on the hammer to remind you to take it off before you blew
off your foot then you'd have problems when the hammer wasn't there.
|>
|> Anyone who goes anyone saying that the criminals obviously outgun
|> the police don't know nothing about firearms. Turn off COPS and Hunter
|> and pay attention. I do not seek here to say "semi-autos are junk"
|> merely that assuming they are better for all jobs is stupid. A cop
|> with a revolver on his hip and a shotgun in the rack is more than
|> equipped for anything short of a riot.
I think this is even okay for a riot (as long as it's a small one B^)).
|>
|> Gun control is hitting what you aim at. If you whip out a
|> wonder-nine and fire real fast you may find you don't hit anything.
|> Good controlled fire from a revolver is more likely to get you a hit.
|> I own a 9mm Beretta myself but consider it inferior as a carry weapon
|> to something like the Ruger Security Six revolver. If I haven't hit
|> what I'm aiming at in the first 5 shots, something is quite seriously
|> wrong somewheres. While I might like having the backup capacity of those
|> extra shots in certain cases, overwhelmingly the # of shots fired in
|> criminal encounters is less than 5.
I have the poor man's Beretta (Taurus 99) and consider it inferior as a carry
weapon to the Springfield .45 (oops, 9mm vs. 45 arguments are relegated to
r.g). You are right, though. If you don't hit what you aim at then the
shooter/gun combination has failed. I don't ascribe failures in the the
fire real fast with a wonder-nine scenario you mention to the gun. This is
a shooter failure, whether through lack of discipline or lack of training.
|>
|> What do crooks overwhelmingly use in crime? Why the same nice simple
|> .38 revolvers that the police often use. Well actually some police
|> prefer the much heftier .357 Magnum, but anyway.....
9mm's are becoming more popular with crooks too, though the .38 does still
lead the list. And like I said, around here semi-auto's seem the rule for the
street cop. Don't know about the State Patrol however, they may still carry
the "Highway Patrolman".
|>
|> ObPlea: Don't flame me, I prefer semi-autos for most things. But they
|> introduce unneccessary complications to something as nerve-wracking
|> as an abrupt encounter with a lone criminal.
Vincent, please don't take any of this as a flame. Just my $0.02 (whoops, looks more
like $2.00) worth. And much of it is IMHO, but do check Ayoob's book.
|>
|> --
|> "If everything had gone as planned, everything would have been perfect."
|> -BATF spokesperson on CNN 3/2/93, regarding failed raid attempt in TX.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
american and european universities were full of Angry Young People(tm)
that wanted to overthrow the government, and wouldn't think twice
about lobbing a molotov cocktail at the national guard (military police
in Europe.)
Certainly, it would have been very bad form to take anything
the System(tm) said at face value.
This was in the end of the sixties and the begining of the seventies,
I'm told. I was too young to remember.
Something wrong happened along the way, I'm afraid. Maybe the west
became just too comfortable, or maybe I was born too late :(
Yours, disappointed with with the youth of today,
PS: 1) Half smilies implied.
2) There *is* a difference between lining up 90 people against the
wall and executing them, and causing their deaths through negligence/
imcompetence. I honestly hope we witnessed the latter. As they say,
the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.
3) I'm sure the Abused Children(tm) from the compound are much
safer now.
--
Ramiro || cgwillme@pyr.swan.ac.uk
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Hi.
I have a friend who is interested in subscribing to this newsgroup.
Unfortunatly she does not have usenet access. If someone could send
her a faq and info on how to subscribe, we'd be very appreciative If
you want to send it to me, you can and I will get it to her. I do not
read this newsgroup regularly though so e-mail please.
Thank you
Jody
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Class o' '94
E-Mail: jrgould@colby.edu
samuel@paul.rutgers.edu
Fantasy, Music, Colors, and Animals will lead this society out of oppression.
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| 13sci.med |
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <BD.93Apr22083220@bd.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>
>>Assuming for the moment that the FBI believed in the bible and
>>were afraid of the seven seals, then they would also know
>>that God is the one who has to open the seals, not some
>>little prophet like Koresh.
>Fear doesn't usually follow reason.
Nice sound-bite, David, but not relevant. At the moment
I reason that that tornado is coming right at me, I begin
to feel fear. At the moment I realize that that car coming
toward me is in *my* lane, I begin to feel fear.
I was responding to a post which suggested that the FBI
attacked the compound because they were afraid Koresh would
unlock the power of the seven seals. If the FBI actually
believed tjhat Koresh could do that, fear is a reasonable
reaction.
Why call Koresh a prophet? Why not? My dictionary has at
least two definitions for the word that fit this situation.
"One who prophesies future events" Seems like Koresh fits
this one nicely, as he
correctly predicted death
by conflagration.
"An effective spokesman for a Seem like he wins on this one, too.
group, a cause, or the like" At least, he certainly got the
public's attention.
IMHO, being a "prophet" and a nut-case are not mutually
exclusive.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
hurley@epcot.spdc.ti.com writes in article <1993Apr14.090534.6892@spdc.ti.com>:
>
> What about VLB and a 486dx50. Does the local bus still run at 33Mhz or does
> it try to run at 50Mhz???
>
>
> Brian
>
>
Hi,
VLB is defined for 3 cards by 33MHz
and 2 cards by 40MHz
there are designs with 50MHz and 2 VLB-Slots.
(s. C't 9.92, 10.92, 11.92)
50MHz and 2 Slots are realy difficult to design.
Better OSs (OS/2 & iX) are able to handle more than 16MB of DRAM,
if you use EISA-Bus.
Has someone experience with VLB ??
I think of SCSI-VLB-Busmaster. The problem is the 16bit Floppy DMA
controller, which is unable to reach more than 16MB.
Joerg
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In <1993Apr23.150058.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kwolfer@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
> How about Matt Nokes 2 run single against Ron Darling. Was that a hit or what?
> While watching the game yesterday they flashed up something regarding The
> Boss' talking about Mark Connor as bullpen coach. He said something like it's
> Mark Connor's fault that the bullpen is so horrible!! Here we go again!!
> George sticking his non-baseball nose in the baseball business. Shut up
> George, just spend the money, get the players and leave Buck and the coaches
> and players alone.
I saw that quote flashed on the screen yesterday also, and what enraged
me more than anything was not that George was speaking up agai and complaining
to the media instead of to the proper people, it was that the idiot reporter
provided George with an outlet and an opportunity to create trouble. This is a
supreme example of how the media can truly control situations. The local beat
reporters should know better and should stop trying to one-up each other with
quotes from the Boss. If they just ignored him, he'd really simply go away,
and problems would be avoided. What that reporter did was potentially to open
up the floodgates again--asshole.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
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| 6misc.forsale |
rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind) writes:
>In article <1993Apr22.153000.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>
> banschbach@vms.ocom.okstate.edu writes:
>>poster for being treated by a liscenced physician for a disease that did
>>not exist. Calling this physician a quack was reprehensible Steve and I
>>see that you and some of the others are doing it here as well.
>Do you believe that any quacks exist? How about quack diagnoses? Is
>being a "licensed physician" enough to guarantee that someone is not
>a quack, or is it just that even if a licensed physician is a quack,
>other people shouldn't say so? Can you give an example of a
>commonly diagnosed ailment that you think is a quack diagnosis,
>or have we gotten to the point in civilization where we no longer
>need to worry about unscrupulous "healers" taking advantage of
>people.
>--
>David Rind
Sure there are quacks. There are quacks who don't treat and quacks who
treat. One's that refuse to diagnose and ones that diagnose improperly.
There are lucky quacks and unlucky quacks. Smart quacks and dumb ones.
There are people ahead of their time, with unprobable or unproven theories
and rationals. There are ill-reasoned, absurd, theorists.
Sometimes it's hard to tell who's who.
Reading a book of ancient jokes it seems that doctors called other doctors
quacks in Babylon.
Arguments abound when there aren't any firm answers. Plenty of illnesses
aren't, or can't, be diagnosed or treated. But I think it's better to argue
against the theory, as was originally done with postings on candida a month
or so ago. Stating the facts usually works better than simply asserting an
opinion about someone's competency. And you can't convince everybody.
Sometimes a correct diagnosis
takes years for people: they don't run into a doctor who recognizes the
disease, they haven't developed something recognizable yet, or they have
something that no one is going to recognize, because it hasn't been
described yet. Sometimes they get a cure, sometimes the illness wears out,
sometimes they stumble on an improper diagnosis with the right treatment,
sometimes they find it's incurable.
There is no profit in a patient accepting a hopeless attitude about an
illness. Unless it's a rock solid diagnosis of terminal disease it's is
more like ly that a person will find a cure if they keep looking.
-Jackie-
| 13sci.med |
In <May.14.02.11.36.1993.25219@athos.rutgers.edu> tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard) writes:
>> I have a question about Satan. I was taught a long time ago
>>that Satan was really an angel of God and was kicked out of heaven
>>because he challenged God's authority. The problem is, I cannot
>>find this in the Bible. Is it in the Bible? If not, where did it
>>originate?
>
[ref to Rev 12:7-12 deleted]
Also read Ezek 28:13-19. This is a desctiption of Lucifer (later Satan)
and how beautiful He was, etc, etc
Grant
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
thomas.d.fellrath.1@nd.edu@nd.edu wrote:
: The key issue that I bought my BJ-200 on was ink drying speed. You really
: have to try awful hard to get the BJ-200 ink to smear. The HP DeskJets need
: 10-15 seconds to completely dry. In both cases, however, do not get your
: pages wet. Unlike laser printers, the material on your pages is INK, not
: toner. But that should go without saying.
I think the ink now used in the DeskJet family is water-fast.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In a previous article, trb3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Tony R. Boutwell) says:
>There is a new product for the (IBM'ers) out there... it is called
>IMAGINE and it just started shipping yesterday... I can personally attest that it will blow the doors off of 3D-Studio. It is made by IMPUlSE, and is in its
>
Well....I don't know about its competing with 3D studio, but
it's pretty powerful allright.
>
>also....does anyone here know how to get in the Imagine mailing list??
>please e-mail me if you do or post up here....
>
Yes, send e-mail to:
imagine-request@email.sp.paramax.com
With a header of something like subscribe.
I actually work on the FAQ (frequently asked questions). We
should have the new version out of it by next week, but if you want, I
could e-mail you the previous one. It details what the list is etc...
as well as answering basic questions about Imagine.
Hope this helps!
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| mbc@po.CWRU.Edu - "Silence those who oppose the freedom of speech" |
+======================================================================+
| 1comp.graphics |
scottm@helena.stat.uga.edu (scott mclure) writes:
>In article <1993Apr23.061709.26822@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gspira@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Spira) writes:
>>paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1993Apr21.213902.4888@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>>>>I think Sac flies are the only way OBP can be below BA.
>>>>
>>
>>>Does this seem dumb to anyone else?
>>>(The fact not the comment.)
>>
>>>Why should a batter's OBP be hurt by a sac fly? Especially if sac
>>>bunts don't have the same effect, since they do the same thing,
>>>but sac flies usually score a run while bunts just advance a base.
>>
>>>But both of these situations involve the batter giving up an AB for
>>>the benefit of the team (sacrifice)? So why should it hurt their
>>>stats?
>>
>>The sac bunt is a purposeful act, ordered by the manager.
>>The batter does not go up "trying" to get a sac fly, and the
>>evidence available indicates that there is no such ability -
>>players can't will themselves to hit sac flies, they fly out
>>to the same place just as often when there's nobody on third.
>>
>>Greg
>>
>>
>Sorry, I gotta disagree here. Last time I played ball, I went up on
>several occasions intending to hit a fly ball deep enough to score the
>runner from third or advance a runner to third. It's relatively easy
>actually... you swing under the path of the ball you normally would to
>hit a good line drive. With fastballs it's very easy, much more
>difficult with good breaking balls. A good hitter with excellent bat
>control can voluntarily hit fly balls to the outfield at least, oh, 60%
>of the time?
You haven't been facing major league pitching.
Maybe more... you have to be good at the plate, and most
>of those guys are just as likely to opt for getting the base hit and
>helping their average as getting the sacrifice. The best example I know
>of is Jerry Willard in the 91 Series against Minnesota. All he had to
>do was put one in the OF and the game was over. He swung waaaaaay past
>parallel and accomplished (barely) getting the run in safely.
STATS did a little study in the 1993 Scoreboard book entitled "Can
you hit sacrifice flies on purpose?" A summary of the findings:
Over the 5 year period, sac-fly type fly balls were produced 17.6
percent of the time in situations where a sac fly was useful, and
17.7 percent of the time when a sac fly wasn't useful.
They looked at the leaders in sac flies, and found that the leaders
in sac flies - in other words, the guys you would expect to be good
at it it - hit sac fly type fly balls only 3% more often when they
needed to - a difference way too small to be the result of a skill.
Essentially, the players who hit a lot of sac flies seem to do
so because they hit hit sac fly type flies often, with and without
a runner on third.
STATS concludes "So it appears conclusive that hitters cannot hit
sacrifice flies on purpose - even if they practice in the bATTING
cage."
gREG
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary @ University of Colorado, Boulder):
>I don't know about animal attacks, but there are 23,500 murders
>each year and under 500 die in the manner you suggest. If only
>2.1% of the murders were killings by "wacko"s, you would be
>wrong. Worse, there are also 102,500 rapes and 1,055,000 aggravated
>assaults each year. These numbers make violent attacks, and
>preventing them, thousands of times more significant than the
>accidents you are worried about.
These stats are invalid; we're talking BACKCOUNTRY. These stats for
rapes/assaults/deaths do not represent the backcountry singularly; the
great majority represent urban incidents. You should have pointed this out.
-Rob
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr15.160145.22909@husc3.harvard.edu> verbit@germain.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:
>My personal problem with Romanian culture is that I am
>not aware of one. There is an anecdote about Armenians
Troglodytism does not necessarily imply a low cultural level.
The image-conscious Armenians sorely feel a missing glory in
their background. Armenians have never achieved statehood and
independence, they have always been subservient, and engaged
in undermining schemes against their rulers. They committed
genocide against the Muslim populations of Eastern Anatolia
and Armenian Dictatorship before and during World War I and
fully participated in the extermination of the European Jewry
during World War II. Belligerence, genocide, back-stabbing,
rebelliousness and disloyalty have been the hallmarks of the
Armenian history. To obliterate these episodes the Armenians
engaged in tailoring history to suit their whims. In this zeal
they tried to cover up the cold-blooded genocide of 2.5 million
Turks and Kurds before and during World War I.
And, you don't pull nations out of a hat.
Source: Walker, Christopher: "Armenia: The Survival of a Nation."
New York (St. Martin's Press), 1980.
This generally pro-Armenian work contains the following information
of direct relevance to the Nazi Holocaust:
a) Dro (the butcher), the former Dictator of the Armenian Dictatorship and
the architect of the Genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds, the most
respected of Nazi Armenian leaders, established an Armenian Provisional
Republic in Berlin during World War II;
b) this 'provisional government' fully endorsed and espoused the social
theories of the Nazis, declared themselves and all Armenians to be members
of the Aryan 'Super-Race;'
c) they published an Anti-Semitic, racist journal, thereby aligning themselves
with the Nazis and their efforts to exterminate the Jews; and,
d) they mobilized an Armenian Army of up to 20,000 members which fought side
by side with the Wehrmacht.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
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| 6misc.forsale |
For updated playoff updates (scores, stats, summaries)
e-mail me. (mmilitzo@skidmore.edu) with the subject STATS.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <121415@netnews.upenn.edu> egedi@ahwenasa.cis.upenn.edu (Dania M. Egedi) writes:
>In article <1993Apr16.222604.18331@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
>|> In article <1993Apr16.174436.22897@midway.uchicago.edu> pkgeragh@gsbphd.uchicago.edu (Kevin Geraghty) writes:
>>>wrong about the whole guns-for-protection mindset, it ignores the
>>>systemic effects of cumulative individual actions. If you want fire
>>>insurance on your house that's prudent and it has no effect on me; but
>>>if you and a bunch of other paranoids are packing handguns in the
>>>backcountry it makes me, and anyone else who doesn't chose to protect
>>>himself in this manner, pretty f**king nervous.
>>
>> Why? If you're not a threat, you're not affected at all.
>>
>
>Aha. That's the part that makes me nervous too. Who gets to decide if
>I am a threat?
When I might possibly be on the receiving end of a violent gesture,
then *I* get to decide for myself. If someone does not like it, too
bad. I would be doing exactly what YOU or any other living creature
would do in terms of evaluation. What's the big deal?
>Based on appearance?
Sometimes.
>Would someone feel more threatened when approached by a very dirty, smelly,
>slightly-maniacal looking person with a slight glaze to the eyes, muttering
>to himself?
I might.
>Doesn't this describe most backpackers after they've been out more than a
>couple of days?
Not in my experience. And let us not forget that context is often an
important factor in evaluating a situation. Seeing disheveled persons
on a hiking trail is not likely to be evaluated equally with meeting
a grimey sort, as described above, on a lonely city street at 3 am.
Anyone that cannot properly discriminate between these two different
situations is legitimate fodder for the old "survival of the fittest"
principle.
>Or based on something else? Proximity? No room to pass on the trail
>without getting *real close* to someone. An inner sense? Now I'm really
>getting nervous.
Sounds like you doubt your own abilities. You sound pretty
typical in this respect. You also seem to think that you'll
be safe or safer if others are unarmed. This is dangerous
fantasy.
>Twice when I was hiking the A.T. I came up on a shelter that I was planning
>on staying at and saw someone sitting there cleaning his gun. Softly I backed
>away, and hiked another 5 miles to get *out of there*. I'll freely admit it here:
>I'm not afraid of guns; I'm afraid of people that bring them into the backcountry.
Then you are in need of some form of therapy. Not necessarily that
of an analyst, but maybe you should learn about guns. Your fear is
seems to be based in ignorance and false knowledge. You see a person
with a gun and you feel threatened. Why is this so? Have you any
legitimate basis for this? Any first-hand experience that lends
validity to your fears? Or are your fears based on mediated experience,
i.e. the anecdotes of others such as network news? I trust you can
see the lack of legitimacy in such mediated inputs?
And why are you afraid of the PEOPLE as mentioned above? Forgive me,
but you sound afraid to the point of paranoia. Perhaps you should talk
to someone about this. I am not saying this to be rude or fascetious,
but I think anyone with fear as deep and baseless as yours *seems* to
be needs some sort of help. Living in fear really sucks, even if it
is only when around people with guns in the back country.
Tell me: would you be as fearful of a park ranger who was right in
front of you with their side arm in clear view? Why or why not?
-Andy V.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Dear netters:
I have been scanning this news group for a while but has not found a FAQ.
Could someone enlight me where to find the FAQ if there is a one. Also,
could someone recommend a few good books about encription and decription,
about patent information, goverment regulation on this science/technology.
I will appreciate any of your help very much.
Sincerely
Bi Chen
| 11sci.crypt |
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.mac.misc: 5-Apr-93 Re: HELP INSTALL RAM
ON CEN.. by Jason Harvey Titus@farad
> From: jht9e@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason Harvey Titus)
> Subject: Re: HELP INSTALL RAM ON CENTRIS 610
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1993 20:05:51 GMT
>
> I had asked everyone about problems installing a 4 meg
> simm and an 8 meg simm in my Centris 610, but the folks at the
> local Apple store called the folks in Cupertino and found that
> you can't have simms of different speeds in one machine, even
> if they are both fast enough - ie - My 80 ns 8 meg and 60ns 4
> meg simms were incompatibable... Just thought people might
> want to know.....
> Jason.
oh boy am i confused, I thought the entire point of the 72 pin simms was
that you could use diffrent size simms so you could avoid having to use
sets. all horror stories not withstanding.
-A.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1993Apr20.201450.8748@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (some caifone) writes:
> I certainly hope you don't have an SO, sir,
What is "SO" supposed to signify? I prefer the companionship of a
person, not a euphemism.
> because if she heard
Thankfully, you got the gender right. For I am not a deviant.
> how disparaging you are towards political minorities,
Sexual deviants do not comprise a "political minorit[y]".
> and if she had any shred of self-respect, she'd be out the door.
I only associate with girls who do indeed have self-respect. But were
I to find myself with the sort who would be inclined to head out the
door on account of my views regarding the aberrant behavior known as
"homosexuality", I would encourage her to indeed do so, and I would
further advise her not to let the door whack her on the backside on
the way out. Who needs such an airhead?
>> Pretty soon they will find themselves retreating back into the closet
>> where they belong.
> Don't count on it, sweetheart.
Oh, I can't do anything _BUT_ count on it. After all, it is
inevitable, for it is part of the natural order of things. Throughout
history, nature has always asserted itself. Don't be so arrogant as
to assume that this foolish and misguided generation can change the
nature of man where practically every other generation has failed.
Greater men than you haven't been able to do this. The above _MOST_
_CERTAINLY_ _WILL_ happen, no matter how much you may wish to pretend
otherwise.
Moreover, I'm not your "sweetheart".
--
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my own only. Do you seriously | kaldis@remus.rutgers.edu
believe that a major university | {...}!rutgers!remus.rutgers.edu!kaldis
as this would hold such views??? |
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Andy Freeman writes:
>Joe Doll writes:
)>> "The Catalog of Personal Computing Tools for Engineers and Scien-
)>> tists" lists hardware cards and application software packages for
)>> PC/XT/AT/PS/2 class machines. Focus is on engineering and scien-
)>> tific applications of PCs, such as data acquisition/control,
)>> design automation, and data analysis and presentation.
)>> If you would like a free copy, reply with your (U. S. Postal)
)>> mailing address.
>>
>> I am very interested in your catalog, but E-mail to you bounces.
>
>Don't bother - it never comes. It's a cheap trick for building a
>mailing list to sell if my junk mail flow is any indication.
I have a copy of this catalog in front of me as I write this.
It does have tons of qool stuff in it.
My impression is that they try not to send it out to "browsers". It
appears that if your not a buyer or an engineer they do not want to
waste a catalog on you. When you get a catalog there's a "VIP Code" you
have to give them "to ensure your continued subscription.".
Anyway, if you want to get in touch with them, the company is
Personal Computing Tools
550 Division Street
Campbell, CA 95008
(408) 378-8400
(They also have fax #'s and toll free #'s for ordering and tech support)
Please note that I am not associated with them in any way. In fact, I
have never ordered from them so I can't comment on their products or
service but the catalog is real and I am sitting here salivating over
it.
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <strnlghtC5yBKA.Dp5@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
brings up the issue of how the escrow agent will be paid, and the fact
that the government had financial leverage if they don't cooperate.
It's an important issue, especially if one of the escrow agents
decides they'd rather stop offering the service.
I assume that if the escrow agent isn't the government,
then the contract for providing escrow service would include some
termination clause like returning the keys.
> The easiest way is a user fee for each clipper chip manufactured.
> This makes the funding separate from government.
But who's the user paying the fees here, and what's the service?
If the user is the government, then the funding's not separate from the government.
If the user is the buyer, what's the service?
Keeping the key for me? No thanks - I don't need, and won't buy their service!
Not telling everybody my key? Sounds like blackmail!
If the user is the manufacturer, does the user have a choice about buying?
The alternative is to just generate the key and not escrow it, which is fine -
I'd certainly pay more for this kind of key than an escrowed key!
Face it, the escrow provider is providing a service the users don't want.
The only people who want it are the government, not the users.
What you're really talking about is either the government paying for
the service, up front or per-year, either from general taxes,
or from a special direct tax on wiretap chips, or on an indirect tax
(forcing the manufacturer to pay the fee to the escrow agent.)
I hope the escrow people have no way of finding out your name from
your serial number, especially if the escrow is a government agency.
Here in New Jersey, we have lots of people willing to provide that
sort of services for user fees. There are people willing to keep your
store from burning down for a small monthly fee, though sometimes people
refuse to pay and discover that the service really was effective.
If you go to a baseball game at Yankee Stadium, there are people who
will watch your car in the parking lot for a small user fee.
Something could scratch the paint, after all.
And what a shame if your Clipper key got out!
--
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# White House Commect Line 1-202-456-1111 fax 1-202-456-2461
| 11sci.crypt |
Hi,
I just inherited an NCR 1204 external floppy. This thing has every port known to man on the back.
The question is: Does anyone know how to connect this thing to a PC. What hardware is needed?
Software?
TIA,
Alex
P.S. please respond directly. I am not on this alias.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Hi, netters!
I've just built X11R5 pl 21 under Solaris 2.1. I've used the multi-screen
patch, as well as the R5.SunOS... patch and everything builds great, except
for that error message Xsun gives me upon startup. It says:
"Cannot set default font path '[stuff deleted]'" and "Cannot set default font
'fixed'". If I supply the -fp option, it doesn't complain about the font path
but still complains about the font. I have symlinks from /usr/lib/ to the
place where my distribution lives.
Could somebody help me?
-joel
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In article <C5un02.Gq5@idacom.hp.com> andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott) writes:
>Here are the final stadings for the USENET Hockey Draft. Congratulations
>to this year's winner, Dave Wessels of Victoria, B.C., who parlayed his
>initial 1000 points into 1575.9 points!
>
>Thanks to all 262 teams for entering the biggest USENET Hockey Draft ever!
>I hope to hear from you all again this September, for the 7th Annual draft.
>
>
>USENET Hockey Draft Standings
>Week 28
>
>Posn Team Total Pts Cash Last Posn
>
>1. Dave Wessels 1575.9 1574 1.9 (1)
>79. Brad Gibson 1174.2 1147 27.2 (79)
>262. Dinamo Riga 658.0 603 571.6 (262)
An interesting note ... I have absolutely no recollection who was on my team.
I picked all my players about 2 weeks before the start of the season, and
then never touched the roster again. I got wrapped up in my own "money" pool
and decided not to get involved at all with the USENET pool (sorry Andrew
btw). The only thing I remember about my team is that I had Joe Sacco and
maybe John MacLean. Maybe Francis and Kevin Stevens as well. Out of
curiousity I checked the final standings today on r.s.h., only to find to my
amazement that with absolutely no input, the initial team still managed to
finsh 79th! I'm not sure what that implies for those who finished below me
:)
Ciao.
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>
> I was wondering if anyone knew if John Wetteland was put on the DL again
> after his first 15-day period was up? I read in the USA Today Sports
> section that he is on for "surgery to repair broken toe", and was
> wondering if that was new. I thought he was just letting it heal.
As of today's USA Today (4/23) John Wetteland should come off of the DL
tonight and possibly pitch in the series this weekend (I forget who they play.)
>
> Another question, Is Derek Lilliquist the main closer for the Indians now
> that Olin is gone. I need to know cause I need to find a reliever to
> replace Wetteland and so far Lilliquist is doing ok. Any information on
> either of the players would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your
> time.
Derek Lilliquist is probably going to be the main closer, but it will be kind
of a bullpen by committee also.
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In article <1sufneINNe4f@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU> ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>
>In article <1sueslINNa6g@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>,
>jovanovic-nick@yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:
>
>> "Muslim" in ex-Yugoslavia was a *nation* not a religion. In fact, not
>> all Muslims in B-H are followers of Islam. Therefore, there do (did?)
>> exist in ex-Yugoslavia "Christian Muslims."
>
>Yeah! That's it! :) You've really outdone yourself this time Nick...
>Don't forget the "Davidian Muslims"... :)
>
>Islam is not a race. It's a religion. You can be white, black,
>Fijian or Alaskan. I guess you didn't absorb too much of the Malcolm
>X interest circulating. You see, the whole point of Islam is that it
>stresses equality amongst all peoples. Now, I do realize this is
>difficult for you to comprehend given your staunch beliefs in Serbian
>ethnic cleansing, but give it a try, it's really not that difficult.
>
Our white knight for Islam rides in again! Our instant expert
on religion, race and ethnicity is at the door! Stand back all. Let
him through. He's going to single-handedly rescue Islam from all these
dastardly mistakes, misquotes, misconceptions.
>> The war is not a religious war, and it is not an ethnic war.
>
>That's right, it's a Disneyland war -- all a setup for the TV cameras.
>There are also people who believe man never landed on the moon, that
>the whole Apollo story was done in TV studios...
>
>> It is a
>> civil war in which the terms of secession are being negotiated with guns
>> instead of pens. The Croat, Muslim, and Serb political leaders *all*
>> chose to fight over the terms of secession instead of compromising and
>> peacefully negotiating multilateral secession agreements.
>
>Terms of secession? You are, of course, joking, right Nick? Nobody
>*chose* to fight. Bosnia and Croatia were *internationally*
>recognized nations when the Serbs attacked and started on their
>well-documented genocide. That makes them an outside aggressor. It's
>a simple genocide, a classical example of ethnic cleansing. There is
>no question of civil war...
>
>-- Shakil
Did it occur to you that there is such a thing as Bosnian Serbs
who aren't necessarily outsiders? And while you're at it, could you
please pontificate a little bit about your Islamic pals in the Sudan
who are running amuck in the South, kidnapping women and children
and, in essence, doing the same thing? How come we don't hear your
wonderful treatises on what's happening
out there?
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
pchurch@swell.actrix.gen.nz (Pat Churchill) writes:
>My 14-y-o son has the usual teenage spotty chin and greasy nose. I
>bought him Clearasil face wash and ointment. I think that is probably
>enough, along with the usual good diet. However, he is on at me to
>get some product called Dalacin T, which used to be a
>doctor's-prescription only treatment but is not available over the
>chemist's counter. I have asked a couple of pharmacists who say
>either his acne is not severe enough for Dalacin T, or that Clearasil
>is OK. I had the odd spots as a teenager, nothing serious. His
>father was the same, so I don't figure his acne is going to escalate
>into something disfiguring. But I know kids are senstitive about
>their appearance. I am wary because a neighbour's son had this wierd
>malady that was eventually put down to an overdose of vitamin A from
>acne treatment. I want to help - but with appropriate treatment.
>My son also has some scaliness around the hairline on his scalp. Sort
>of teenage cradle cap. Any pointers/advice on this? We have tried a
>couple of anti dandruff shampoos and some of these are inclined to
>make the condition worse, not better.
>Shall I bury the kid till he's 21 :)
:) No...I was one of the lucky ones. Very little acne as a teenager. I
didn't have any luck with clearasil. Even though my skin gets oily it
really only gets miserable pimples when it's dry.
Frequent lukewarm water rinses on the face might help. Getting the scalp
thing under control might help (that could be as simple as submerging under
the bathwater till it's softened and washing it out). Taking a one a day
vitamin/mineral might help. I've heard iodine causes trouble and that it
is used in fast food restaurants to sterilize equipment which might be
where the belief that greasy foods cause acne came from. I notice grease
on my face, not immediately removed will cause acne (even from eating
meat).
Keeping hair rinse, mousse, dip, and spray off the face will help. Warm
water bath soaks or cloths on the face to soften the oil in the pores will
help prevent blackheads. Body oil is hydrophilic, loves water and it
softens and washes off when it has a chance. That's why hair goes limp with
oilyness.
Becoming convinced that the best thing to do with
a whitehead is leave it alone will save him days of pimple misery. Any
prying of black or whiteheads can cause infections, the red spots of
pimples. Usually a whitehead will break naturally in a day and there won't
be an infection afterwards.
Tell him that it's normal to have some pimples but the cosmetic industry
makes it's money off of selling people on the idea that they are an
incredible defect to be hidden at any cost (even that of causing more pimples).
-Jackie-
| 13sci.med |
In article <HM.93Apr24130607@angell.cs.brown.edu> hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky) writes:
>In article <martinb.735590895@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> aurag@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Aurag Hassan) writes:
I am replying to this because I haven't seen anyone else do so yet. It
seems rather odd really as there are so few really wierd posters left
who aren't fascists or Arab extremists.
>Arab civilians did die at Dir yassin. But there was no massacre.
Yes it was and it was clearly admitted so by the troops who carried it
out and then stupidly deposited testimony in their own archives to that
effect.
>First
>of all, the village housed many *armed* troops.
Source? Noone is claiming this anymore except you. Would you like
to name one credible historian who asserts this? I believe that
even Begin has the decency not to claim this.
>Secondly, the Irgun
>and Stern fighters had absolutely no intentions of killing civilians.
Yes they did and thye said so - they said they went their with the
intention of killing all the men and all the women who got in their
way. Their *own* archives remember, this is not hostile testimony.
>The village was attacked only for its military significance. In fact,
>a warning was given to the occupants of the village to leave before
>the attack was to begin.
Sound van bogged down in a ditch. No warning given.
>By all rational standards, Dir Yassin was not a massacre. The killing
>was unintentional.
Yes it was and no it was not. It was a massacre - the murder of hundreds
of unarmed civilians who had no part in the fighting. The surviving men
were taken to the local quarry and shot in the back of the head. Not
intentional? Yeah right.
>The village housed Arab snipers and Arab troops.
No it did not - you have a source for this slander of course?
>Thus it was attacked for its military significance. It was not
>attacked with intentions of killing any civilians.
The men involved said clearly that the intention was to kill all the
men. It was a premeditated mass murder nothing else.
>To even compare Dir Yassin, in which some 120 or so Arabs died, to the
>Holocaust is absurd.
On that we agree at least.
>The Irgun did not want to kill any civilians. The
>village had almost 1000 inhabitants, most of whom survived.
Yes they did want to kill the inhabitants and many of them were killed.
This is of course simple to resolve, the Haganah sent a soldier to report
on the massacre. He brought a photographer with him. He sent in a report.
The Israeli government suppressed it. Now the government was a Labour
Government. Since then the Revisionists have gotten into power but for
some reason Likud didn't release the report and its pictures either.
Perhaps you might want to tell me why? If it happened as you claim then
there will be no pictures of men shot in the head with their hands tied
behind their backs, no women and children shot as they slept. Yet for
some reason they did not take the chance to clear their own name. You
have a reason for this don't you? I somehow doubt it. The facts are
exactly as the people responsible claim - a premeditated mass murder
nothing else. No Iraqi soldiers, no other fighting. Just ethnic cleansing
at work.
Joseph Askew
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| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <m0njXCg-0000VEC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>Perhaps you don't get it, and maybe you never will. Many didn't get it in the
>Middle Ages and the proclaimed God's will be done as they massacred thousands
>in witch hunts and inquisitions.
There were many injustices in the middle ages. And this is truely sad.
I would hate to see a day when churches put people to death or torchured
them for practicing homosexuality, or any other crime. The church is not
called to take over the governments of the world. It may be that homosexuals
treated cruelly today, but that does not mean that we should teach
Christians to practice homosexual immorality. Do you think that we should
also teach Christians to practice divination and channelling because
the witches in the middle ages were persecuted.
>The major flaw in all this posturing is that in the end, the
>final effect of posts like that of yours and Mr. Hudson is that YOU have a
>"conditional" love for gays. Condition: Change and we'll love you. This is
>sure strange coming from a group who claim that God has an "unconditional"
>love, one that calls people "just as they are."
And you accuse me of judging? When did you look into my heart and see
if I have love. I have been writing that we should not teach Christians
to practice homosexual immorality, and you pretend to have divine knowledge
to look into my heart. I can't say that I love homosexuals as I should-
I can't say that I love my neighbor as I should either. I don't know
very many homosexuals as it is.
But Jesus loves homosexuals, just as He loves everyone else. If His love
were conditional, I not know Him at all. Yes. We should show love to
homosexuals, but it is not love to encourage brothers in the church to
stumble and continue in their sin. That is a very damaging and dangerous
thing.
>The results of the passing amendment in
>Colorado has created an organization who's posters are appearing all over
>Colorado called "S.T.R.A.I.G.H.T." (I forget the whole definition off hand,
>but the last part was Against Immoral Gross Homosexual Trash) and their motto
>is "Working for a fag-free America" with an implicit advocation for violence.
>
>This is sick, and it seems to be what you and Mr. Hudson, and others are
>embracing.
That is slander. I could just as easily say that NAMBLA has been able
to implement legislation to make child molesting easier because of
the tearing down of societies morality due to people accepting homosexuality
as normal, and that this is what you are embracing. I do believe
that homosexual sex is immoral, that does not mean I endorse using violence
against them. There is a problem of hatred in the church. But there
is also the problem of what has been called "unsanctified mercy."
Many in the conservative churches have seen the moral breakdown in
this country and the storm on the horizon, and have gotten militant in
the flesh. This is truely sad. Yet others in other churches have
embraced immorality in society, and have pointed to the carnality in the
conservative churches to justify their actions.
>Why don't we just stick to the positive and find ways to bring people
>to Jesus istead of taking bullwhips and driving them away?
Certainly we should not use a bullwhip to drive people from Jesus.
But we shouldn't water down the gospel to draw people in. Jesus didn't
go out of His way to show only what might be considered positive aspects
to draw people in. He told one man to sell all He had. He told
another not to say good bye to His family. His words were hard at times.
We should present people with the cost of the tower before we allow them
to begin construction. many people have already been innoculated to the
gospel.
Link Hudson.
>
>Whatever
>
>Rich :-(
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1qumqkINNq1i@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> wdstarr@athena.mit.edu
(William December Starr) writes:
>
>(ca.politics omitted from the distribution line because my site's news
>posting software doesn't believe in it and refuses to try to post to it.
>:-( I sure hope that Matt also reads either a.f.r-l or t.p.m...)
>
Saw it in t.p.m., thanks.
>In article <C5qK7t.2qK@voder.nsc.com>,
>matt@galaxy.nsc.com (Matt Freivald x8043) said:
>
>> I like to call the form of government that I advocate "Fractal
>> Federalism." With Fractal Federalism, there is a representative
>> national government that has only certain limited powers to do what is
>> absolutely necessary at that level. Next there are the state
>> governments, again with only absolutely necessary powers. Onward to
>> counties, cities/townships, districts, and neighborhoods...
>>
>> 1) The lowest (read- "most local") levels are the ones that have the
>> most power over individuals' day-to-day lives, which is good because
>> that is the level where individuals have the most voice.
>You know, if you take all this to its logical conclusion, doesn't it
>seem that the _real_ "lowest level... the level where individuals have
>the most voice" is that of the single individuals themselves? Why have
>you omitted that level from your model?
Yes, and the individual is not omitted; I just didn't fully articulate the
principles of Fractal Federalism. All government powers derive from the
People; each level can receive a new power from the level below through
the amendment process, where a true consensus (say a 3/4 majority) writes
that power into the Constitution of the level above (in the case of the
lowest level, an amendement is passed by a 3/4 majority vote; in the case
of higher levels, it must be passed by 3/4 of the legislatures. We can
of course haggle about the specifics of "true consensus" when we hold our
Constitutional Convention :-). Once a power has been granted, it may be
exercised by the legislature. Powers not in the original Constitutions must
percolate upward, starting from the individual. The ratification process
for the original Constitutions should involve consensus and not simply a
plurality or majority.
Granting a "right" in a constitution is of course the same as empowering
the government at that level to restrict the activities of the governments
at the lower levels, so it operates in the same way as the amendment process
(again, that crazy resemblance to the supposed-but-not-actual U.S. government
structure).
This government structure is a very frustrating one for those people (read-
"liberals") who would like to have concentrated power to use the government
to force people to do "good" (a difficult-to-define word, and one that it
is difficult to reach a consensus on). It is also a frustrating structure
for those who want to use the government to dictate personal behavior (read-
"big-government conservatives"). I personally would rather see those types
of people frustrated than the incredible erosion of liberty (both civil and
economic) that is going on now.
This is IMHO a "good" government stucture for those who see the role of
government as the protection of individual liberties, while still recognizing
that individuals need to have some influence in the type of community that
they live in.
>> 2) A free market works on government, not just economics. Succesful
>> ideas propogate, unsuccessful ideas die.
>What is your definition of a "successful" idea or a "successful"
>government?
One which maintains peace, liberty, and the opportunity for happiness for its
people, while working within the realities of human nature. You do bring
up the point (intentional or not) that a "lasting" idea is by no means
necessarily a "successful" idea. I believe that Fractal Federalism would
at least bring many ideas to light, and The People would have the opportunity
to democratically choose between "good" ideas and "bad" ideas. If the
Docialists, er, I mean Democrats are right and government activism fosters a
prosperous People, they will have a plethora of local opportunities to
check their thesis. If Libertopia is possible, it will arise. If a balanced
Conservative Republic is democratically received as the best level of
government activity, it will become clear to The People that it is best.
>> As far as "set the moral tone" is concerned, if a community does not
>> collectively want to put up with prostitution going on in front of
>> their kids, why should they have to? If a community does not want to
>> see proliferation of drugs among their kids, why should they have to?
>For the same reason that they have to put up with a church operating
>right out in the open, where their kids can see it, and with the owner
>of the house across the street flying an American flag right out there
>in the open every day in front of their kids. It's called "freedom."
>If they don't like the ideas to which their kids are exposed, they can
>try to educate and persuade their kids as to why the things that they're
>seeing other people doing are wrong or bad.
Right, and people would not rescind any freedoms (read- "empower the
government") except through the amendment process. That is how the Federal
Government is supposed to work now, but the Supreme Soviet, er, I mean the
Supreme Court put a stop to that "republican government" nonsense.
In my hypothetical government, if there were a constitutional provision
empowering the government to regulate churches the government (whatever
level we are talking about) could indeed ban churches. The constitutional
provision would be invalid if a higher level had a constitutional provision
protecting free exercise of religion. The uppermost Constitution is still
the Supreme Law of the Land.
>(I find it interesting that you applaud the idea of free-market
>competition among various ideas, and yet support the right of he
>majority in a community to suppress ideas which they don't like.)
It is a matter of individuals being able to control their own associations
and environment, not a matter of suppression of ideas.
One dilemma of the human condition is that individuals need liberty, and
they also need to have some control over their environment. In my
"Fractal Federalism" government, certain "rights" are protected by the
constitutions. Other "rights" are protected simply because the government
has not been empowered to infringe upon them. When a consensus is reached
that the government should have a certain power, then freedom is infringed
upon. This cannot be avoided -- murder statutes infringe upon freedom,
but I think that the consensus of the American people is that murder statutes
are a good idea.
I am sure that many parents believe that they have a "right" to control
the environment that their children live in. People feel that they have
a "right" to sleep peacefully at night; thus, there are noise ordinances.
There are zoning laws that keep businesses from overrunning residential
neighborhoods. I do not view these as bad things (certainly some individual
instances are bad, but the concept is not necessarily bad), I view them
as the people in a community having some control over the type of community
that they live in. I see the alternative as near anarchy.
Like I said in another post, if you can come up with a scenario where an
individual can do something truly autonomously -- with absolutely zero
effect on anyone else -- then no individual or government has the right
to restrict that activity. There are simply not very many behaviors that
fit into the category of the truly autonomous, so the whole thing becomes
an issue of one individual or group having power over another individual
or group. I think that the "Fractal Federalism" approach is a sound, if
not ideal, approach to limiting this restrictive power. The libertarian
scenario degenerates to "might makes right," and the system we have right
now is one of "lawyers abusing natural rights philosophy to decide what
powers the government should have by subverting the democratic process
though the Supreme Court."
>> The problem with the egalitarian view is that it tries to deny the
>> fundamental dilemma of democratic government: The People have a right
>> to exercise a voice in their community, yet individuals have the right
>> to be left to themselves. This is a serious dilemma precisely because
>> there is not much that takes place in a vacuum.
>Oddly enough, if what you say is taken literally there is little or no
>conflict: the people do indeed have a right to exercise a voice -- where
>"voice" equals "persuasive speech" in their communities... it's only
>when they somehow get the idea into their heads that they also have a
>right to dictate behavior in their communities that the trouble begins.
I think I answered this above already, but let me expand a little more
with an example. If I stand naked in front of your house and masturbate
in front of your children while they play, in your libertarian (small 'l')
scenario the only recourse you have is to yell at me. "Autonomous" is
a value judgement 99.99% of the time, it is not a scientific reality with
a clear definition. Exactly who would you empower to make that value
judgement?
>[stuff deleted]
>> Certainly not the only cause, Mike, but people in a local neighborhood
>> should have a voice in what goes on in that neighborhood. To deny
>> this is to create another concentrated centralized power to keep the
>> locality from abusing its power -- in essence, using a pit bull to
>> keep a toy poodle from biting your leg. Chances are, the pit bull is
>> going to turn on you some day, and you have much less defense against
>> it than you do against the toy poodle.
>The argument here appears to be that tyranny of the individual by the
>local majority is superior to having the federal government have and
>exercise the power to protect the individual from his neighbors because
>that federal government will eventually and inevitably become corrupt
>and use its power to tyrannize everyone. Okay, there's a lot of truth in
>that; certainly we're seeing something like that happening in the United
>States today (though it's unclear that he progression here matches the
>model, since our beloved and benign federal government hasn't
>_ever_shown much enthusiasm for the idea of protecting any individuals...)
Lots of people are long on complaints and short on practical solutions.
Although I am pessimistic that my idea will ever bear fruit, I am at least
trying to be long on solutions also. I am truly interested if you have
any improvements to make on my ideas (I call them "my ideas", but they
all come from an "average guy" reading of the U.S. Constitution without
benefit of the indoctrination of Constitutional Law academia).
>But I have to say that I think that your solution is at least just as
>bad. Trading the yoke of federal tyranny for the yoke of local tyranny
>doesn't cheer me up much... I think I'd prefer to put my faith in a
>larger government that at least _might_ protect the individual from time
>to time rather than place it in local mob rule. Admittedly, it's the
>lesser of two evils, and it's not less by very much, and they're both
>pretty damn evil...
Sorry, the confusion was my fault. When I said that "Fractal Federalism"
resembles the U.S. constitution, I meant it and thought it was pretty clear.
I should have more clearly explained that the ultimate derivation of government
power is from the CONSENSUS of the people (although not the CONSENT of every
individual; a practical observation, not a moral judgement). It is certainly
better than having all government power derive from nine lawyers, which is the
situation we have now. That is why I think the Supreme Court should be
a jury court, with a different jury for each case.
It is certainly not perfect (no philosophy of government is), but do you still
find it a repugnant idea? If so, what is your solution?
>> Ideally, everyone would leave everyone else alone and no government
>> coercive power of any kind would be necessary. This will never work,
>> because people are different and by their nature they will always want
>> to force their views on others. If this were not the case, nobody
>> would try to force their view that murder is wrong on anyone else.
>This is true... the question is, what we you going to do about it? Your
>proposed solution seems to actually _encourage_ these bozos to lord it
>over their victims.
I think that you misunderstood the structure of the form of government I
advocate, and it was my fault for not being more clear.
>Oh, and by the way...
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> LiBORGalism:
>> THINKING IS IRRELEVANT. INTEGRITY IS IRRELEVANT.
>> FREE SPEECH IS IRRELEVANT. PRIVATE PROPERTY IS IRRELEVANT.
>> PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS IRRELEVANT.
>> CONSERVATIVISM IS FUTILE.
>> YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>How much would freedom of speech or private property rights be respected
>in a community in which the majority was allowed to make all the rules?
>("That man's saying things in public that I don't want my children
>exposed to! Let's shut him up! Those homos are living together and
>fornicating in that house over there! Let's run 'em outta town!")
The majority does not make the rules. The majority (or possibly a
plurality) simply elects representatives to exercise limited government
powers; those limited government powers derive from a large consensus,
not a simple majority. And the Federal Government, in my scenario, still
has the power to protect freedoms.
>-- William December Starr <wdstarr@athena.mit.edu>
Matt Freivald
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LiBORGalism:
THINKING IS IRRELEVANT. INTEGRITY IS IRRELEVANT.
FREE SPEECH IS IRRELEVANT. PRIVATE PROPERTY IS IRRELEVANT.
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS IRRELEVANT.
CONSERVATIVISM IS FUTILE.
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.
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THESE ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <C5oy0z.ILy@chinet.chi.il.us> schneier@chinet.chi.il.us (Bruce Schneier) writes:
>In article <strnlghtC5M2Cv.8Hx@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>>
>>Here's a simple way to convert the Clipper proposal to an unexceptionable
>>one: Make it voluntary.
>>
>>That is--you get high quality secure NSA classified technology if you agree
>>to escrow your key. Otherwise you are on your own.
>>
>
>As long as "you are on your own" means that you can use your own encryption,
>I'm sold.
>
>Bruce
As am I
If "high quality secure NSA classified technology" means handing my key
over to whomever, I'll take PGP any day.
Right now they are billing it as voluntary, i.e. bend over, here it comes.
As soon as enough Wiretap chip based units are out there, how much
easier do you think it will be to redefine "on your own" to mean
write it yourself and don't even THINK about distributing it...?
Get honest, no one is going to buy this trash if they KNOW it's compromised
already, and less will buy it if the algorithm is not disclosed.
The NSA knows that making this stuff available to the public means
handing it to whatever foreign powers are interested in the process.
Since when has export control stopped anyone (especially software wise)
Ask yourself carefully if " high quality secure NSA classified technology "
is something they are going to hand out. Not unless you can drive a
NSA van through the holes.
uni (Dark)
--
uni@acs.bu.edu -> Public Keys by finger and/or request
Public Key Archives at <pgp-public-keys@pgp.iastate.edu>
DF610670F2467B99 97DE2B5C3749148C Sovereignty is the sign of a brutal past.
Cryptography is not a crime. Fight the Big Brother Proposal!
| 11sci.crypt |
In article 7290@rd.hydro.on.ca, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>>>
>>>how _do_ the helmetless do it?
>>
>>Um, the same way people do it on
>>horseback
>
>not as fast, and they would probably enjoy eating bugs, anyway
Every bit as fast as a dirtbike, in the right terrain. And we eat
flies, thank you.
>>jeeps
>
>you're *supposed* to keep the windscreen up
then why does it go down?
>>snow skis
>
>NO BUGS, and most poeple who go fast wear goggles
So do most helmetless motorcyclists.
>The question still stands. How do cruiser riders with no or negligible helmets
>stand being on the highway at 75 mph on buggy, summer evenings?
helmetless != goggleless
---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said,
DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
(The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <ccdw.735917051@kudu> ccdw@kudu.ru.ac.za (Dave Wilson) writes:
>I am in the process of modifying an X application that uses Xlib. I'd
>like to include a timer-driven facility (for network polling)
You have to do the same sorts of things that Xt does with its main loop.
That is, you have to rig up a timer queue, and you have to put a
select(2) or poll(2) call in your main loop. You can obtain the
file descriptor of the X display connection using
fd = ConnectionNumber (display);
The functionality of the main loop dispatcher in Xt is quite useful.
The good news is, you can get the source and plagiarize!
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr22.141948.32639@dcc.uchile.cl> bherrero@cec.uchile.cl (Beltran Herreros T.) writes:
Since Image Writer LQ was discontinued, there is no Apple Talk
printer with 11"*15" continous paper printer.
I would like to know is there are any possibility to connect
an IBM compatible printer to an Apple Talk net directly (or
with a Net Serial hardware), and if I need any other software
to do it.
I've have not found quite the solution yet. The following comes from
MacUser's MiniFinders:
The Grappler IIsp is a dot matrix-printer interface cartridge that
emulates the Imagewriter LQs. Includes networking and spooling
software that allows multiple users... $159 Orange Micro 714-779-2772
If you find out any more information, please let me know because in
the future I have the same problem, or if anyone else has the
information please post. Thanks
Al
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In a previous article, tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) says:
>In article <1qr05cINNpel@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> stlouis@unixg.ubc.ca (Phill St. Louis) writes:
>>Jack Morris' starts have been like his playoff starts. He has an ERA of
>>17.18 in his 3 starts.
>>
>>What does luck have to do with a 17.18 ERA? He was lucky to get 21 wins
>>last year, but he had an ERA of 4.04 with a team that scored a lot of
>>runs. I would be happy if he could still pitch with an ERA of 4.04, but
>>he seems to be suffering from a total callapse.
>
>Bad pitchers are more prone to this total collapse than good pitchers.
>They are closer to the chasm of mediocrity. The smallest push and
>they completely lose their grip.
>
But good ones can collapse somewhat, then come back the next year.
Burleigh Grimes went from 20+ wins and an ERA of 3 or so in '24 to 13-19 and
an ERA around 4 in '25. He pitched well for several more years. Carlton
won 13 and lost 20 the year after his 27-10 record. (Source: Bill James
Historical Baseball Abstract.)
And let's not forget John Tudor, who started 1-5 and finished 21-6 in
1985. He had a pretty bad ERA when you take Busch Stadium into account at
the start of the season.
>>He gave up early runs
>>in his '92 games and would get stronger as the game went on, thus giving
>>up few runs in the last going. He stays in the game and gets the win.
>>How else would he have pitched so many innings?
>
>Yup. He used to dig himself a hole, then get it together and stick in
>until the run support eventually came through. This year he just
>hasn't gotten it together.
If I recall, he had a 4.50 ERA in the 1st half and a 3.50 ERA in the
2nd half of last year.
Hmmm, 21 runs in 11 innings. Suppose he starts 30 more games, and winds
up w/200 innings pitched. If he allows 4 runs a game in the next 189
innings, he'll have a 4.75 ERA or so at the end of the year. (I think I have
his totals right.) This is going to be hard to come back from.
>>Jack may be finished. It is time to retire or be released, if he does
>>not return to his form from last year.
>
>His $5 million contract is an awful lot to eat!
My 1st hunch is that Morris is very gutsy, and that he may be pitching
through an injury and not telling anyone. My 2nd guess is that he will be
banished to the bullpen the remainder of the season after a few more starts.
(Perhaps when Stewart comes off the DL? Or will Danny Cox, who went 3 or 4
scoreless innings against the Tribe today, start for Morris? He looks like
a really good one. Gaston is scrambling to find starters, I'd imagine.
Luckily, the Jays have a very good offense.)
I don't think they would dare release him before the end of the year.
He'll just be replaced by Stewart or Cox.
--
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu : Me, age 4 & now: "Mommys and Daddys & other
Ever wonder if, after Casey : relatives have to give lots of hugs & love
missed the 3rd strike in the poem: & support, 'cause Heaven is just a great
he ran to first and made it? : big hug that lasts forever and ever!!!"
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Gremilins have attacked my keyboard and the correction to my followup on audio
relays got fouled up.
Varying lamp resistance, should read, "Varying lamp voltage"
--
73, Tom
================================================================================
Tom Wagner, Audio Visual Technician. Malaspina College Nanaimo British Columbia
(604)753-3245, Loc 2230 Fax:755-8742 Callsign:VE7GDA Weapon:.45 Kentucky Rifle
Snail mail to: Site Q4, C2. RR#4, Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada, V9R 5X9
I do not recyle..... I keep everything! (All standard disclaimers apply)
================================================================================
| 12sci.electronics |
Hey folks--
I've got a pair of Dunlop sportmax radials of my ZX-10, and they've been
very sticky (ie no slides yet), but all this talk about the Metzelers has
me wondering if my next set should be a Lazer comp K and a radial Metzeler
rear...for hard sport-touring, how do the choices stack up?
Nathaniel
ZX-10
DoD 0812
AMA
| 8rec.motorcycles |
After a rough start purchasing a 486 system (see earlier post), I'm trying
again. I'm looking at the following system offered by EPS Technologies:
- 486dx 33mhz w/ 256K static RAM cache,AMI Bios
- 3 32-bit VESA local bus slots, 3 16-bit slots, 1 8-bit slot
- Teac 1.2 & 1.44 mb floppy drives
- Maxtor 170 MB hard drive (15 ms) IDE w/64K cache buffer
- 32-bit vesa local bus video card w/ 1mb RAM 1024 X 768 NI (I *think* it's an
Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 card)
- 14" NI Multisync monitor 1024 X 768
- 101 Keyboard
- 200 Watt power supply
- Windows 3.1, Mouse, DOS 6.0
- *3* years limited warranty
- 1 year on-site service
I'm probably going to add the $125 for a 15" flat-screen digital monitor, and
will also want to go for at least 8 mb RAM ($159 extra).
Has anyone bought from EPS Technologies, particularly a system like the one
I'm considering. I'm especially interested in their warrantee and service.
Can anyone recommend other companies who offer similar packages, with support,
and comparable prices (I see FastMicro just bit it...).
Thanks in advance,
-Toby Loftus
TAL@BROWNVM
TAL@brownvm.brown.edu
Brown University
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
>>So when you turn on the power, this causes the bulb to work like a neon,
>
>Imprecise. This description
>
> 1. ignores the role of the ballast,
> 2. misrepresents the heating effects in the starter.
>
>The bimetalic strip cools down immediately after the contacts
I've been thinking of sending into Mad magazine an idea for a
parody, of those books entitled "How Things Work" that
engineers buy their sons, which explain how engines, elevators,
flourescent lights, etc. work.
The parody would be "How Things Really Work." Under "Canned
Food", on the left page you'd see the description from
"How Things Work": gleaming stainless steel equipment
pasteurizing the food to precisely the right temperature,
then sealing the can in an oxygen-free environment, etc.
On the right page you'd see "How Things Really Work":
brain-dead workers sending disgusting food to the
gleaming equipment -- rotting vegetables, parts of
animals people don't eat, barrels of sugar and chemicals.
Under "Elevators" you'd see (on the left) computer geniuses
working out algorithms so that X number of people
waiting for Y elevators will get to Z floors in the shortest
time. On the right, you'd see giggling elevator controllers
behind a one-way mirror in the lobby choosing which people
appear to be in the biggest hurry and making them wait longest.
--
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susannah Martin, hanged for witchcraft, 1692.
Thomas David Kehoe kehoe@netcom.com (408) 354-5926
| 12sci.electronics |
Ok, Buffalo fans. I am a Red Wings fan, but am amazed at how the Sabres are
beating up on the Bruins. Is there any reason for this? Is it Grant Fuhr or
Mogilny and Lafontaine? I would like to hear from you since I do not know much
about the Sabres.
Dave Vergolini
Michigan State University
vergolin@euler.lbs.msu.edu
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
We've just recently upgraded our X11 to R5 and are now running into problems
with some of our applications that use Motif 1.1. It appears that pointer to
the widget being passed to the callback function (i.e., the "w" of
(w, client, call) ) is nil. The client and call pointers are okay in some
instances, but bogus in other instances.
We are running SunOS 4.1.2 on a Sun 4. After compiling X11R5 and all 23
patches (with the MotifBC flag set), we recompiled Motif and then we
recompiled the application.
Did we skip a step or leave something out? Is there a flag that we should
have used? Should we have left Motif alone?
Any answers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Kathy
==============================================================================
Kathy Saint || "She's a witch!! She's a witch!!."
"I'm not dead yet." || "How can you tell she's a witch?"
|| "She looks like one!!"
saint@mitchell.hac.com || - "Monthy Python & the Holy Grail"
| 5comp.windows.x |
In <1993Apr18.134943.16479@bmers95.bnr.ca> slang@bnr.ca (Steven Langlois) writes:
>If such a device exists, are there are any limits to the number of
>serial devices I can use?
How many NuBus slots do you have?
Applied Engineering has something called the QuadraLink, which is
a card with 4 serial ports that you get at through the comms
toolbox (in addition to the built-in ones) It also comes with
software for fooling applications to open an AE port when they
think they open a built-in port.
They also have a more expensive card with DMA (better performance)
and I _think_ they, or someone else, have a card that handles
8 ports simultaneously.
As I said, with NuBus, you're green. Learn how to use the Comms
Resource Manager to get at the various installed cards.
Cheers,
/ h+
--
-- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe --
"You NEVER hide the menu bar. You might go about and change the color
of it to the color of the BACKGROUND, but you never HIDE the menu bar."
-- Tog
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1r3smf$67m@access.usask.ca>, coulman@cs.Usask.CA (Randy
Coulman) writes:
Path:
ctron-news.ctron.com!noc.near.net!uunet!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!mi
izar.cc.umanitoba.ca!access.usask.ca!cs.Usask.CA!coulman
From: coulman@cs.Usask.CA (Randy Coulman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Final Regular Season Individual Goalie Stats
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 93 12:27:59 EDT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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Sender: coulman@skorpio (Randy Coulman)
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: skorpio.usask.ca
I would appreciate it if someone could volunteer to verify the shots on goal
and save percentage numbers for me, so I can put these stats on the archive
site. Contact me by mail if you want to volunteer.
Here are the individual goalie stats as of: Wed Apr 21 09:09:38 CST 1993
These stats include games up to and including the Sunday previous to the date
listed above. They have been verified against what is printed in my newspaper
every Tuesday. They don't print shots and save percentage numbers, so those
are not verified. These stats are available by mail every weekday and
sometimes on weekends, if I'm in town and I can get late game results. Just
send me a note if you would like to receive these stats by mail.
If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, let me know.
Randy
-------
MP = Minutes Played, GA = Goals against,
SO = Shutouts, GAA = Goals against average
W = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties
SOG = Shots on Goal, SV = Save Percentage
MP GA SO GAA W L T SOG SV TM Player
=======================================================
1 0 0 0.00 0 0 0 0 1.000 WAS Byron Dafoe
11 0 0 0.00 0 0 0 3 1.000 HAR Corrie D'Alessio
40 1 0 1.50 0 0 0 19 0.947 MTL Frederick Chabot
25 1 0 2.40 0 0 0 10 0.900 BOS Mike Bales
2781 116 2 2.50 25 15 7 1287 0.910 TOR Felix Potvin
4106 177 7 2.59 41 18 11 1879 0.906 CHI Ed Belfour
1322 64 1 2.90 9 8 4 596 0.893 BOS John Blue
996 49 2 2.95 6 7 1 414 0.882 CHI Jim Waite
3702 186 4 3.01 43 14 5 1889 0.902 PIT Tom Barrasso
3890 196 1 3.02 29 28 9 2194 0.911 STL Curtis Joseph
1817 94 1 3.10 18 8 4 858 0.890 VAN Kay Whitmore
1429 75 0 3.15 11 10 4 716 0.895 BUF Dominik Hasek
3194 168 3 3.16 37 14 3 1354 0.876 BOS Andy Moog
1311 70 1 3.20 14 4 1 629 0.889 CAL Jeff Reese
3595 192 2 3.20 31 25 5 1813 0.894 MTL Patrick Roy
168 9 0 3.21 1 1 1 87 0.897 HAR Mike Lenarduzzi
1193 64 0 3.22 13 4 2 522 0.877 DET Vincent Riendeau
1785 96 2 3.23 17 7 4 938 0.898 TOR Daren Puppa
3880 210 4 3.25 34 24 7 1898 0.889 DET Tim Cheveldae
3732 203 2 3.26 29 26 9 1805 0.888 CAL Mike Vernon
2655 146 1 3.30 22 20 2 1314 0.889 NYI Glenn Healy
3359 185 1 3.30 24 24 6 1726 0.893 BUF Grant Fuhr
2757 152 4 3.31 20 18 7 1519 0.900 NYR John Vanbiesbrouck
3282 181 1 3.31 27 23 5 1531 0.882 WAS Don Beaupre
3476 193 3 3.33 26 26 5 1683 0.885 MIN Jon Casey
3261 184 3 3.39 28 21 5 1620 0.886 VAN Kirk McLean
2672 151 2 3.39 19 21 3 1322 0.886 NJ Chris Terreri
1433 81 1 3.39 17 5 1 686 0.882 MTL Andre Racicot
1939 110 0 3.40 18 9 4 947 0.884 QUE Stephane Fiset
2512 143 5 3.42 20 17 6 1329 0.892 PHI Tommy Soderstrom
1368 78 0 3.42 13 7 2 691 0.887 PIT Ken Wregget
542 31 0 3.43 5 4 0 225 0.862 BOS Reggie Lemelin
2988 172 0 3.45 29 16 5 1525 0.887 QUE Ron Hextall
2253 130 0 3.46 17 15 5 1067 0.878 NYI Mark Fitzpatrick
3855 227 2 3.53 33 26 6 2119 0.893 WIN Bob Essensa
1601 96 0 3.60 15 10 2 777 0.876 WIN Jim Hrivnak
1596 97 1 3.65 10 12 5 803 0.879 MIN Darcy Wakaluk
1591 97 0 3.66 7 19 2 757 0.872 TB Wendell Young
1163 71 0 3.66 8 10 1 573 0.876 TB JC Bergeron
2389 146 2 3.67 21 16 4 1180 0.876 NJ Craig Billington
1210 74 1 3.67 8 8 2 628 0.882 STL Guy Hebert
1302 80 2 3.69 8 12 0 664 0.880 WAS Rick Tabaracci
664 41 0 3.70 5 6 0 344 0.881 BUF Tom Draper
224 14 0 3.75 1 2 1 116 0.879 NYR Corey Hirsch
1769 111 1 3.76 13 11 5 932 0.881 PHI Dominic Roussel
2105 134 1 3.82 13 19 3 1184 0.887 NYR Mike Richter
157 10 0 3.82 1 2 0 78 0.872 NYI Danny Lorenz
3753 240 1 3.84 17 38 6 2069 0.884 EDM Bill Ranford
1735 111 0 3.84 15 8 4 987 0.888 LA Robb Stauber
2718 175 2 3.86 18 21 6 1545 0.887 LA Kelly Hrudey
154 10 0 3.90 0 2 1 66 0.848 QUE Jacques Cloutier
867 57 0 3.94 5 9 1 499 0.886 HAR Mario Gosselin
532 35 0 3.95 6 4 0 294 0.881 LA Rick Knickle
2268 150 1 3.97 8 24 4 1197 0.875 TB Pat Jablonski
2074 142 1 4.11 7 26 0 1250 0.886 SJ Arturs Irbe
2656 184 0 4.16 16 27 3 1470 0.875 HAR Sean Burke
1338 93 0 4.17 9 12 2 763 0.878 EDM Ron Tugnutt
1326 95 0 4.30 2 17 1 743 0.872 OTT Daniel Berthiaume
802 59 0 4.41 3 9 0 405 0.854 PHI Stephane Beauregard
3388 250 0 4.43 8 46 3 1711 0.854 OTT Peter Sidorkiewicz
65 5 0 4.62 0 0 1 39 0.872 CAL Andrei Trefilov
1373 111 0 4.85 4 15 1 784 0.858 HAR Frank Pietrangelo
73 6 0 4.93 0 0 1 34 0.824 WIN Mike O'Neill
60 5 0 5.00 0 1 0 46 0.891 SJ Wade Flaherty
2000 176 0 5.28 2 30 1 1220 0.856 SJ Jeff Hackett
930 86 0 5.55 2 14 1 559 0.846 SJ Brian Hayward
160 15 0 5.63 0 3 0 91 0.835 TOR Rick Wamsley
20 2 0 6.00 0 0 0 7 0.714 WAS Olaf Kolzig
90 10 0 6.67 0 2 0 44 0.773 OTT Darrin Madeley
249 30 0 7.23 0 5 0 146 0.795 OTT Steve Weeks
98 13 0 7.96 0 2 0 51 0.745 LA David Goverde
45 7 0 9.33 0 1 0 21 0.667 TB David Littman
--
Randy A. Coulman, M.Sc. | ARIES Laboratory
Research Assistant | Department of Computational Science
| University of Saskatchewan
coulman@cs.Usask.ca | Saskatoon, SK S7N 0W0
--
Mike Machnik machnik@blue.ctron.com nin15b34@merrimack.edu
Cabletron Systems, Inc. *HMN* 11/13/93
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5r5rt.FIr@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>, wyllie@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Andrew Wyllie) writes:
> In article <1993Apr19.190341.10176@bmerh85.bnr.ca> hsslee@bnr.ca writes:
>>Devon White has not been in the Blue Jays line up
>>lately. Does anybody know why he is not playing?
>
> During one of the games last week (Wednesday?), both White and Sprauge
> were not playing because they had the flu. I guess White is probably
> still sick. I hope White gets back in the lineup soon, watching
> Darrin Jackson play center is painful.
>
> andrew
I heard he had a strained abdominal muscle or something like that.
--Dan Brekke--
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
My ex-husband & I used to own Borgwards. Haven't seen any for a long
time. They were really good cars. Does ayone out there know anything
about them now? I heard they were being made in Mexico, but of course
they wouldn't be the original German - if that's even true. When I've
been in Mexico I haven't seen any. We loved ours, even tho' they were
ugly - they had names - one was Humphrey Borgward.
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1993Apr17.175451.30896@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, ip02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (D
anny Phornprapha) writes:
>I have $30,000 as my budget. I'm looking for a sports or GT car.
>
>What do you think would be the best buy? (I'm looking for specific models)
>
>Thanks,
>Danny
>--
>
> I'd say an RX-7 would be RIGHT up there. You could easily deal down to $30.
It has some of the most impressive performance figures around, and automotive
magazines eat it up. One car to seriously consider in that price range.
Rob Fusi
rwf2@lehigh.edu
--
| 7rec.autos |
I have an extra copy of Lotus 1-2-3 ver 3.4 for DOS. I'd like to get $100 for it. please reply by e-mail to jth@bach.udel.edu
Thanks,
Jay
| 6misc.forsale |
NY Islanders 1 1 2 0 1--5
Washington 0 2 2 0 0--4
First period
1, NY Islanders, Turgeon 1 (King, Thomas) 13:14.
Second period
2, Washington, Hunter 3 (Johansson, Miller) 6:33.
3, NY Islanders, Turgeon 2 (Thomas, Vaske) 12:36.
4, Washington, Hunter 4 (Johansson, Carpenter) pp, 16:51.
Third period
5, NY Islanders, Hogue 1 (unassisted) 3:31.
6, Washington, Khristich 2 (Cavallini, Bondra) 7:16.
7, NY Islanders, Ferraro 2 (Flatley, Hogue) 14:50.
8, Washington, Hunter 5 (Johansson, Khristich) pp, 19:57.
First overtime
No scoring.
Second overtime
9, NY Islanders, Mullen 1 (Ferraro, Flatley) 14:50.
NY Islanders: 5 Power play: 5-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Ferraro 1 1 2
Flatley 0 2 2
Hogue 1 1 2
King 0 1 1
Mullen 1 0 1
Thomas 0 2 2
Turgeon 2 0 2
Vaske 0 1 1
Washington: 4 Power play: 5-2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Bondra 0 1 1
Carpenter 0 1 1
Cavallini 0 1 1
Hunter 3 0 3
Johansson 0 3 3
Khristich 1 1 2
Miller 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
Montreal 0 0 1--1
Quebec 3 0 1--4
First period
1, Quebec, Leschyshyn 1 (Kamensky, Sakic) pp, 4:19.
2, Quebec, Young 2 (Lapointe) 11:41.
3, Quebec, Young 3 (Lapointe, Duchesne) 13:56.
Second period
No scoring.
Third period
4, Montreal, Bellows 2 (Odelein) 11:05.
5, Quebec, Lapointe 1 (Ricci) en, 19:23.
Quebec: 4 Power play: 2-1 Special goals: pp: 1 en: 1 Total: 2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Duchesne 0 1 1
Kamensky 0 1 1
Lapointe 1 2 3
Leschyshyn 1 0 1
Ricci 0 1 1
Sakic 0 1 1
Young 2 0 2
Montreal: 1 Power play: 1-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Bellows 1 0 1
Odelein 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
New Jersey 0 0 0--0
Pittsburgh 2 4 1--7
First period
1, Pittsburgh, McEachern 1 (Francis, Taglianetti) 15:09.
2, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 3 (Samuelsson, Barrasso) sh, 17:41.
Second period
3, Pittsburgh, Tocchet 2 (Stevens, Samuelsson) 3:48.
4, Pittsburgh, Jagr 2 (Francis, Ramsey) 12:39.
5, Pittsburgh, Stevens 1 (Francis, Murphy) pp, 15:43.
6, Pittsburgh, McEachern 2 (Daniels, Mullen) 16:56.
Third period
7, Pittsburgh, Mullen 1 (Francis, Barrasso) 17:42.
Pittsburgh: 7 Power play: 4-1 Special goals: pp: 1 sh: 1 Total: 2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Barrasso 0 2 2
Daniels 0 1 1
Francis 0 4 4
Jagr 1 0 1
Lemieux 1 0 1
McEachern 2 0 2
Mullen 1 1 2
Murphy 0 1 1
Ramsey 0 1 1
Samuelsson 0 2 2
Stevens 1 1 2
Taglianetti 0 1 1
Tocchet 1 0 1
New Jersey: 0 Power play: 5-0
No scoring
-----------------------------------------
Buffalo 2 1 1--4
Boston 0 0 0--0
First period
1, Buffalo, Presley 1 (unassisted) sh, 4:27.
2, Buffalo, Wood 1 (Moller, Sweeney) pp, 8:07.
Second period
3, Buffalo, Mogilny 3 (Lafontaine) 5:03.
Third period
4, Buffalo, Hawerchuk 1 (Carney, Smehlik) pp, 14:48.
Buffalo: 4 Power play: 4-2 Special goals: pp: 2 sh: 1 Total: 3
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Carney 0 1 1
Hawerchuk 1 0 1
Lafontaine 0 1 1
Mogilny 1 0 1
Moller 0 1 1
Presley 1 0 1
Smehlik 0 1 1
Sweeney 0 1 1
Wood 1 0 1
Boston: 0 Power play: 5-0
No scoring
-----------------------------------------
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1qve4kINNpas@sal-sun121.usc.edu>, schaefer@sal-sun121.usc.edu (Peter Schaefer) writes:
>In article <1993Apr19.130503.1@aurora.alaska.edu>, nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>|> In article <6ZV82B2w165w@theporch.raider.net>, gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright) writes:
>|> > With the continuin talk about the "End of the Space Age" and complaints
>|> > by government over the large cost, why not try something I read about
>|> > that might just work.
>|> >
>|> > Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
>|> > who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a year.
>|> > Then you'd see some of the inexpensive but not popular technologies begin
>|> > to be developed. THere'd be a different kind of space race then!
>|> >
>|> > --
>|> > gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright)
>|> > theporch.raider.net 615/297-7951 The MacInteresteds of Nashville
>|> ====
>|> If that were true, I'd go for it.. I have a few friends who we could pool our
>|> resources and do it.. Maybe make it a prize kind of liek the "Solar Car Race"
>|> in Australia..
>|> Anybody game for a contest!
>|>
>|> ==
>|> Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
>
>
>Oh gee, a billion dollars! That'd be just about enough to cover the cost of the
>feasability study! Happy, Happy, JOY! JOY!
>
Feasability study?? What a wimp!! While you are studying, others would be
doing. Too damn many engineers doing way too little engineering.
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| 14sci.space |
Hi Stephen
Ear wax is a healthy way to help prevent ear infections, both by preventing
a barrier and also with some antibiotic properties. Too much can block the
external auditory canal (the hole in the outside of the ear) and cause some
hearing problems. It is very simple, and safe, to remove excess wax on your
own, or at your physician's office. You can take a syringe (no needles!) and
fill it with 50% warm water (cold can cause fainting) and 50% OTC hydrogen
peroxide. Then point the ear towards the ceiling ( about 45 degrees up)
and insert the tip of the syringe (helps to have someone else do this!) and
firmly expell the solution. Depending on the size of the syringe and the
tenacity of the wax, this could take several rinses. If you place a bowl
under the ear to catch the water, it will be much drier :-). You can buy
a syringe with a special tip at your local pharmacy, or just use whatever
you may have. If wax is old, it will be harder, and darker. You can try
adding a few drops of olive oil into the ear during a shower to soften up
the wax. Do this for a couple days, then try syringing again. It is also
safe to point your ear up at the shower head, and allow the water to rinse
it out.
Good Luck
-heather
| 13sci.med |
In article <C5uoC0.9I5@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> tbrent@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Timothy J Brent) writes:
>In article <C5uD1u.3oy@apollo.hp.com> goykhman@apollo.hp.com (Red Herring) writes:
>> Where did you get this information? The FBI stated they were not
>> aware of any mass suicide plans, ditto Koresh's attorneys who appeared
>> on Larry King's Live yesterday, and the survivors claim the fire was started
>> from the outside...
>
>Actually, ONE of the survivors say it was started by the FBI (tank knocked over lamp). Another said the Davidians set the fire themselves.
The FBI says that one survivor says they set the fire themselves.
Given that the claim is that the fire was started in 3 places at once,
and that the building was being rammed by a tank and filled with tear
gas, just how did the Davidians manage to co-ordinate such a thing?
--
Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures. Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I told some friends of mine two weeks ago that Koresh was dead. The FBI and
the BATF could not let a man like that live. He was a testimonial to their
stupidity and lies.
Now before everyone gets crazy with me, let me say that Koresh was crazy as
a bed bug, but out government was crazier...and they lied to us.
They told us compound had been under survaillance for quite some time. Yet,
whoever was watching the place failed to see that Koresh went jogging and into
town on a regular basis. Everyone in the area claimed to have seen him and
wondered why they didn't pick him up then. There are two possible answers.
First, they didn't see him. What kind of survaillance is that? Second, they
didn't care. They wanted a confrontation. They wanted publicity and they got
it.
After the first battle, they told us that they did not know he knew they were
coming. They also said it would have been foolish to go in knowing that.
Well, we know now that they intercepted the informants call and went in anyway.
Did they explore all of the possibilities for ending the seige? According to
them they did, but according to the Hartford Courant, the woman that raised
Koresh (His Grandmother) was not allowed to go in and see him.
The FBI agent who she spoke with was Bob Ricks and according to the paper he
said:
"A lot of people think if you just talk to them logically they will come out.
His grandmother raised Vernon Howell; (Koresh's Real name) she didn't raise
David Koresh."
Someone who raises you and loves you does not speak to you strickly on a
logical level. There is also an emotional level on which they can reach you.
Here's another one. All during this operation the FBI has been claiming that
they feared a mass suicide and that is one of the reasons that something must
be done. Now they claim they never thought he would do it?
I knew they were going to do something when they started talking about how
much money this was costing. That was the start of the "Justification" part
part of the plan. That's when I knew it would come soon.
But, back to the plan. It is considered "Cruel and Unusal Punishment" to
execute criminals in the minds of many people, but look at what's acceptable.
They knew the parents (adults) had gas masks. They did not know, or were not
sure, if the children had them. So the plan was to pour the gas into the
compound. The mothers, seeing what the gas was doing to their children were
supposed to run out and that would only leave the men to deal with.
I spent two years in the army and like everyother veteran I went through CBR
(Chemical, Biological Radiological) warfare training. Part of that training
is going into a room filled with the same stuff that the children were
subjected to. To make the stuff really interesting the gas also has a chemical
agent that irritates the skin. You think its on fire.
I have no doubts the children would become hysterical. Its not the kind of
thing you never want to do again. This was the plan, the final solution.
We waited 444 days for our hostages to come home from Iran. We gave these
people 51 days.
I stated on several occasions that there was absolutely nothing in this whole
thing that the government could point to as a success. Well, FBI agent Ricks
changed my mind. Again a newclip from the Hartford Courant:
"And while expressing regret at the loss of life, he suggested that the
operation had been at least a modified success because not a single federal
shot had been fired and not a single federal agent had been hurt."
It took 17 dead children to get us that new definition of success.
One more thought. The government claimed that they believed he had automatic
weapons on the premises.
HE HAD A LICENSE FOR THE 50 CALIBER MACHINE GUN!
THEY KNEW DAMN WELL HE HAD ONE. THEY ALSO KNEW HE HAD IT LEGALLY!
Still, without the element of surprise they sent in agents to get him.
For all of this my President takes full responsibility. What a guy!
I hope he gets it.
In article <exuptr.1431.0@exu.ericsson.se>, exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor, The Sounding Board) writes:
> In article <11974@prijat.cs.uofs.edu> bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>
>>Before you go absolving the BATF & FBI of all blame in this incident, you should
>>probably be aware of two important facts.
>>1. There is no such thing as non-toxic tear gas. Tear gas is non-breathable
>> remaining in it's presence will cause nausea and vomiting, followed eventually
>> by siezures and death. Did the FBI know the physical health of all the people
>> they exposed?? Any potential heart problems among the B-D's??
>
> No doubt it is dangerous stuff when concentrated.
>
>>2. Have you ever seen a tear gas canister?? Tear gas is produced by burning a
>> chemical in the can. The fumes produced are tear gas. The canister has a
>> warning printed on the side of it. "Contact with flamable material can result
>> in fire." Now, how many of these canisters did they throw inside a building
>> they admited was a fire-trap??
>
> None. They used non-incindiary methods, which means they produced the gas
> outside the building and pumped it in via the tanks.
>
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <15008@news.duke.edu>, kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt Bollacker) writes:
|> Tim Glauert (thg@cam-orl.co.uk) wrote:
|> : In other words, it is your *opinion* that MSW3.1 is inferior to its
|> : competition. That's not the same as MSW3.1 being objectively inferior.
|>
|> No. It is technically inferior to the OS/GUIs that I listed.
OK, now you are starting to define your criteria.
|> By this criterion, it is inferior.
I'm afraid that you haven't actually proved that. You have shown that some
aspects of MSW3.1 are technically inferior to other systems. As I said
earlier, if this is all you are trying to say then it is trivially true.
But some aspects of MSW3.1 are actually technically superior to each of the
other systems (resource requirements, performace, device support, printer
support, GUI etc.)
[ BTW, I'd love to see the studies which show that UNIX/X is as easy to
learn as Windows! ]
But I might even agree that, on balance, MSW3.1 is technically inferior to
some of the competition. This still does not prove your point.
|> If you have another, then perhaps I am incorrect.
Range of available applications? Base OS cost? Cost of applications? Cost
of hardware? Multi-platform support? Quality of the after-sales service?
Availability of books/training materials? Support for visual and physical
handicaps? Suitability for use in mobile computing? Quality of
Documentation?
If you think that technical excellence is the only factor when deciding on
an OS, or indeed the primary factor, you need to think again.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article 15495@walter.bellcore.com, deaddio@ski.bellcore.com (Michael DeAddio) writes:
>Does anyone know of any type of acceleration sensor that has
>an electrical output of any sort? It would only have to sense
>acceleration in one direction.
>
>Thanx,
>
>Mike
I am not sure about this, but I believe that Analog Devices in Norwood,
MA makes a relatively inexpensive acceleration sensor (primarily for
use in auto air-bag systems). I do not know specs or anything else, but
you might give them a call to find out more info.
Z
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| 12sci.electronics |
I'm about to undertake changing the fork seals on my '88 EX500. My Clymer
manual says I need the following tools from Kawasaki:
57001-183 (T handle looking thing in illustration)
57001-1057 (Some type of adapter for the end of the T handle)
57001-1091 No illustration of this tool and the manual just refers to it
as "the kawasaki tool."
57001-1058 Oil seal and bearing remover.
How necessary are these tools? Considering the dealers around here didn't
have the Clymer manual, fork seals, and a turn signal assembly in stock I
really doubt they have these tools in stock and I'd really like to get this
done this week. Any help would be appreciated as always.
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
Regarding the horror stories about DOS6/DOUBLEDISK and STACKER 2.?
killing hard drives:
I was wondering if the dos 6 MIRROR command works on the doubled
drive info as well as the normal fat table and partition table.
If it records the vital DoubleDisk info, then using it daily
should go a long way toward protecting yourself against the
type of catastrophic failure discussed. If it doesn't, then
shame on Microsoft.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
ted@nmsu.edu (Ted Dunning) writes:
>nobody seems to have noticed that the clipper chip *must* have been
>under development for considerably longer than the 3 months that
>clinton has been president. this is not something that choosing
>choosing bush over clinton would have changed in the slightest; it has
>been in the works for some time.
I've got no doubts that this would probably have gone ahead if Bush
was still president. What's puzzling to me are the people who are
apparently amazed that Clinton is going along with it.
--
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <CMM.0.90.2.735132009.thomasp@surt.ifi.uio.no> Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>
>Abuse by the goverment:
>This seems to be one of the main problems; Any harder gun-control
>would just be abused by the goverment.(!)
>Either some of you are a little paranoid (no offence...)
Mr. Parsli, I have to take exception at this. There are
verifiable, previous *examples* of levels of U.S. governments
abusing gun-control restrictions. I don't think it is paranoid
to worry that what has been abused in the recent past might be abused
in thye future. After so many times of getting burned any sane person
will stop putting his hand on the stove.
>OR you should
>get a new goverment. (You do have elections??)
I'd love to. But as long as the politicians grab power to sell
pork back to their constituents, there's not a lot I can do.
It's silly to suggest that if there's anything we can't trust
the government to do, and therefore the government should be allowed
to do it, then we should change governments. Down that road lies
total government power. I've never been a fan of totalitarianism.
>Guns 'n Criminals:
>MOST weapons used by criminals today are stolen.
This is very likely.
>Known criminals can NOT buy weapons, that's one of the points of gun control.
>And because gun control are strict in WHOLE scandinavia (and most of europe),
>we dont have any PROBLEM with smuggled guns.
The North American Continent is not Europe, no matter how many
people would like it to be. Drugs are very illegal and they're
here. For years Canada has crowed about its gun control. If it is
necessary to control guns over the whole continent, then Canada should
have always had comparable rates to the U.S., yet they still don't.
Unless you can tell me why the Canadian border is so much more
magical than the Mexican border (which is shorter and far more
heavily patrolled) then I really can't accept that argument.
>Mixing weapons and things that can be use as one:
>What I meant was that cars CAN kill, but they are not GUNS!
No, there are approximately 31,000 deaths due to guns in the U.S.,
two-thirds of which are suicides. (Unfortunately I don't have suicide
rates for Norway.) However, this makes the per-gun death rate about
half the per-car death rate.
>The issue (I hope..):
>I think we all agree that the criminals are the main problem.
>Guns are not a problem, but the way they are used is.... (and what are they for??)
>
>I think this discusion is interesting when you think of (ex)Jugoslavia:
>They should all have weapons, it's their rigth to have them, and if they use them
>to kill other (Innocent) people the problem is humans, not guns.
The problem's been humans since before we had stone axes. The
fct of the matter is simply this: If nobody ever assaulted anybody,
whether there is a weapon of any sort around would be totally
irrelevent.
Yet weapons are *built*. I'd suggest, then, that the murderous
impulse in humanity pre-dates weapons.
Anyway, the Bosnians et al. have been making an excellent attempt
to kill each other for half a thousand years. Taking away their guns, even
if we could, would neither halt the killing nor reduce the brutality.
>If 50% of ALL murders was done with axes, would you impose some regulations on them
>or just say that they are ment to be used at trees, and that the axe is not a problem,
>it's the 'axer' ??
>(An example, don't flame me just because not exactly 50% are killed by guns...)
In the U.S., approximately 60% of murders are commited with firearms.
(50% with handguns, 10% with non-handguns.) The reason I say that guns, per
se, are not the problem, is that our non-gun rate exceeds most of Europe's
countries *entire* violent crime rate. I don't really think we've got
more knives or fists.
In any case, I think examples of gun control *applied* to the U.S.
have been abkect failures, just like drug prohibition and other forms
of prohibition. Until you deal with *why* people are doing what they
are doing, you won't solve your problem. And if the problem is
violent crime, you shouldn't concentrate on the tools instead. The
*vast* majority of guns is never, ever misused. (On the order of
99.5% over the entire lifetime of the gun). This says to me that
you can't make the argument that the gun itself causes the misuse.
>Think about the situation in Los Angeles where people are buying guns to protect
>themselves. Is this a good situation ??
The situation is not "good" in that people fear for their lives.
But recall the scenes of the store-owners during the last riots,
protecting their shops with guns. Would it have been better they,
too, lost their livelihoods?
>Is it the rigth way to deal with the problem ??
The problem of poverty and rage in Los Angeles, no it isn't.
However, if that problem becomes a violent action, then yes, it can
be appropriate. Whether or not some person has been hurt by their condition
won't make me less dead if they burn down my house with me in it.
You have to examine which problem you're referring to. If
you're discussing someone violently assaulting you, then it is
a perfectly legitimate response to make them stop. (Hopefully
simply letting them know you're prepared to shoot them would be enough,
as it was with the above-mentioned store-owners.)
>If everybody buys guns to protect themselves from criminals (and their neighbor who have
>guns) what do you think will happen ?? (I mean if everybody had a gun in USA)
45% of Households have some form of firearm, usually a long gun.
That accounts for a level of access for at least 100 million Americans.
Firearm ownership is most likely among educated, well-off whites, the
group *least* likely to be involved in violent crime.
You may take that for what it's worth.
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love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Taft Electronics, 45th Street between 5th & 6th -- the only one left in
what was once an entire district of electronics stores. A little expensive.
Trans-Am Electronics, Canal Street near 7th Ave -- lots of surplus type
stuff.
Several other electronics or "surplus" type places are still on Canal
Street.
I think Bronx Wholesale Radio is still in business -- Fordham Road not
too far from Arthur Avenue in the Bronx. Also in the Bronx is NorthEastern
(or was it Northwestern? Northeast Electronics?) on Jerome Avenue near
Bedford Park Boulevard. They're mostly a TV parts supply house, but when
I was building CB radio projects, they were quite handy..
--
Ed Ravin | "A TV cop fires a gun three times an hour. A real cop
Prodigy Services Co. | fires a gun only once every five years."
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| 12sci.electronics |
Does anyone have a list of Vegas odds for teams making
the World Series?
I'd appreciate a mailing. Thanks,
rickc@corp.sgi.com
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr21.215709.16433@rambo.atlanta.dg.com> wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes:
> Macroevolution has not been observed in action. Chris Colby's example(s)
> of speciation (with all due respect to Chris) in the plant example
> he gave do not consitute macroevolution. Put another
> way, there are an incredibly huge number of events necessary to bring
> non-life to homo sapiens. How many have we DIRECTLY observed?
Special creation has not been observed in action. Bill Rawlin's
assertions that man was created in his present form do not count
as creation. Put another way, there are an incredible amount of
species of the planet. How many species have we DIRECTLY observed
being created by a god or gods?
> // Bill Rawlins <wpr@atlanta.dg.com> //
Chris Colby --- email: colby@bu-bio.bu.edu ---
"'My boy,' he said, 'you are descended from a long line of determined,
resourceful, microscopic tadpoles--champions every one.'"
--Kurt Vonnegut from "Galapagos"
| 19talk.religion.misc |
> = eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>> = Steve Novak writes:
>>Because, of course, that possibility existed. Meaning any student who
>>really gave a shit could have a moment of silence on his/her own, which
>>makes more sense than forcing those who DON'T want to participate to
>>have to take part. What other reason is there for an organized "moment
>>of silence"?
>A "moment of silence" doesn't mean much unless *everyone*
>participates. Otherwise it's not silent, now is it?
The whole point is, maybe everyone _doesn't want_ to participate.
[...]
>Blindly opposing everything with a flavor of religion in it is
>utterly idiotic.
Blindly opposing everything with a flavor of religion in it that is
supported by taxpayer money is the only way to keep christianity from
becoming the official U.S. religion.
Not noticing that danger is utterly idiotic.
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steven@advtech.USWest.Com
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Hi there,
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| 1comp.graphics |
Fred Gilham asks (May 11) whether it is true that Kurt Goedel wrote
a version of the ontological argument for the existence of God.
Yes, he did. He did not publish it, but it will be published by the
Oxford University Press in German and with English translation in
Volume 3, due to appear this fall, of his Collected Works.
Meanwhile, you can find a summary, or perhaps the whole thing, in an
article by Jordan Howard Sobel called "Goedel's ontological proof"
in the book ON BEING AND SAYING, edited by Judith Jarvis Thompson
(sp?), published by the MIT Press in 1987.
Professor C Anthony Anderson of the Philosophy Department of the
University of Minnesota has written an article, "Some Emendations of
Goedel's Ontological Proof," which appeared in the magazine FAITH
AND PHILOSOPHY, v. 7 (1990): 291-303. It discusses some objections
that various critics have raised against Goedel's proof, and offers
a revised version of the proof that is not vulnerable to these
objections.
Yours,
James Kiefer
| 15soc.religion.christian |
How about Matt Nokes 2 run single against Ron Darling. Was that a hit or what?
While watching the game yesterday they flashed up something regarding The
Boss' talking about Mark Connor as bullpen coach. He said something like it's
Mark Connor's fault that the bullpen is so horrible!! Here we go again!!
George sticking his non-baseball nose in the baseball business. Shut up
George, just spend the money, get the players and leave Buck and the coaches
and players alone.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
I was kind of half watching Street Stories last night
and one of the segments was about this doctor in
S.F. who provides a service of investigating treatment
for various diseases. I'm pretty sure his name is
Dr. Mark Renniger (sp?) or close to that.
Did anyone else watch this? I'd like to get his
correct name and address/phone number if possible.
Thanks.
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr05.174537.14962@watson.ibm.com>
strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:
>
>In article <16BA7F16C.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de>, I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
>
>I didn't have time to read the rest of the posting, but
>I had to respond to this.
>
>I am absolutely NOT a "Messianic Jew".
>
Another mistake. Sorry, I should have read alt.,messianic more carefully.
Benedikt
| 0alt.atheism |
The goalie to whom you refer is Clint Malarchuk. He was at
that time playing with the Sabres. His team immediately prior
to that was the Washington Capitals. While he did recover and
continue to play, I do not know his present whereabouts.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <Apr.19.05.13.02.1993.29198@athos.rutgers.edu>, jkellett@netcom.com (Joe Kellett) writes:
> ...
> Question for further discussion (as they say in the textbooks): Why don't
> we teach "safe drug use" to kids, instead of drug abstinence? ...
And how come we don't pass out bullet-proof vests in school
to promote safe gun usage?
Chris Mussack
| 15soc.religion.christian |
"Aaron" == Aaron Bryce Cardenas <aaronc@athena.mit.edu> writes:
Aaron> Colossians 2:11-12 "In him you were also circumcised, in the
Aaron> putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done
Aaron> by Christ, having been buried with him in baptism and raised
Aaron> with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him
Aaron> from the dead."
Aaron> In baptism, we are raised to a new life in Christ (Romans 6:4)
Aaron> through a personal faith in the power of God. Our parent's
Aaron> faith cannot do this. Do infants have faith? Let's look at
Aaron> what the Bible has to say about it.
Yes, let do. Try:
"And if anyone causes one of these little ones *who believes in me*
to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea
with a large millstone tied around his neck." Mark 9:42
"Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them,
for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. I tell you
the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God
like a little child will never enter it."
The Colossians passage does not make faith a requirement
for baptism. It merely says that in baptism we are born again,
regenerated, and resurrected through faith. In the case
of an infant I would say that baptism works faith in the
heart of the infant--through the power of the word.
The Colossians passage does make baptism a spiritual circumcision.
Circumcision was the means by which a male infant was made
a part of God's covenant with Israel. It was commanded to be
performed on the eighth day. The early church understood this,
and even debated whether baptism had to be performed on the
eighth day, or if it could in fact be done earlier.
Aaron> Romans 10:16-17 "But not all the Israelites accepted the good
Aaron> news. For Isaiah says, 'Lord, who has believed our message?'
Aaron> Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the
Aaron> message is heard through the word of Christ."
Aaron> So then we receive God's gift of faith to us as we hear the
Aaron> message of the gospel.
And the gospel is surely preached at any infant's (or adult's)
baptism. Indeed, in a very real sense, the sacraments are
the Gospel made tangible.
Aaron> Faith is a possible response to hearing
Aaron> God's word preached. Kids are not yet spiritually,
Aaron> intellectually, or emotionally mature enough to respond to
Aaron> God's word.
How do you know they are not yet mature enough to have faith?
Do you know this on the basis of God's Word, or from your own
reason?
Faith is also described as a gift from God, Ephesians 2:8,9.
He gives faith to infants just as he gives it to adults, through
the power of the gospel, Romans 1:6.
Aaron> If you read all of Ezekiel 18, you will see that God doesn't
Aaron> hold us guilty for anyone else's sins. So we can have no
Aaron> original guilt from Adam.
Here you show that you just don't understand original sin--
you are arguing against a straw man.
Maybe you've been talking to Catholics too much. I don't
know. But original sin does not consist of God's imputation
of Adam's guilt to us. It consists of our inheritance of
Adam's sinful nature. It is actual sin. See for example,
the Augsburg Confession, Article II, and the Apology of the
Augsburg Confession, Article II, and, for extra credit,
John Knox's `The Scots confession', Article III.
Aaron> Now then that we have a little more background as to why
Aaron> original sin is not Biblical, let's look at some of the
Aaron> scriptures used to support it.
Aaron> Romans 5:12 "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through
Aaron> one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to
Aaron> all men, because all sinned--"
Ask yourself this question. "Do infants ever die?" Then ask
yourself, "If infant baptism is not valid, then where was the
Christian Church during all the centuries when almost all
of the baptisms were performed on infants? Were Luther, Melancthon,
Calvin, Zwingli, Hus, Knox, Andrae, and Chemnitz Christians?
Aaron> Psalm 51:5 "Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time
Aaron> my mother conceived me."
Aaron> This whole Psalm is a wonderful example of how we should humble
Aaron> ourselves before God in repentance for sinning. David himself
Aaron> was a man after God's own heart and wrote the Psalm after
Aaron> committing adultry with Bathsheba and murdering her husband.
Aaron> All that David is saying here is that he can't remember a time
Aaron> when he wasn't sinful. He is humbling himself before God by
Aaron> confessing his sinfulness. His saying that he was sinful at
Aaron> birth is a hyperbole. The Bible, being inspired by God, isn't
Aaron> limited to a literal interpetation, but also uses figures of
Aaron> speech as did Jesus (John 16:25). For another example of
Aaron> hyperbole, see Luke 14:26.
Who are you to say what is literal and what is not? Is a literal
interpretation manifestly absurd in Psalm 51 by reason of direct
contradiction with a clear passage from the Word of God?
You might also compare Genesis 8:21, "The LORD smelled the
pleasing aroma and said in his heart, `Never again will I curse
the ground because of man, even though every inclination of
his heart is evil from childhood...."
Aaron> We see
Aaron> that he did grow and become wiser in Luke 2:40 and 2:52. The
Aaron> implication is that Jesus did wrong things as a child before he
Aaron> knew to choose right over wrong.
You are a long way from proving this (rather monstrous) assertion.
All you can say is that Jesus grew in wisdom and in stature. A
conclusion that he did wrong as a child is based on an extrapolation
of reason, not on a direct revelation in Scripture.
David H. Wagner "But mad reason rushes forth and,
a confessional Lutheran because Baptism is not dazzling like
the works which we do,
regards it as worthless."
--Martin Luther, Large Catechism,
--Fourth Part, Baptism.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
jaskew@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au (Joseph Askew) writes:
> Oh goody, I get to defend China again on alt.atheism. Just exactly what
> 'policy of mandatory forced abortion in Tibet' are we talking about here?
> What are the words 'policy' and 'mandatory' doing there - you mean there
> is a law requiring all (or even some) ethnically Tibetan babies to be
> aborted? Just how many are we talking about? Hundred? Dozens? One or two?
> You are aware of course that even in the days when the one child policy was
> enforced the Tibetans and all other ethnic minorities were exempt? Of course
> you do. And you are aware that if the Chinese wanted to kill all the Tibetans
> they have lots of better means and they have had a rather long time in which
> to do it. But for some reason there seems to be more Tibetans now than at any
> other time. Odd for a people supposedly suffering a 'policy of mandatory
> forced abortion'.
"Laugh if you want to,
or say you don't care;
If you cannot see it,
you think it's not there.
It doesn't work that way.
Peek-a-boo!"
-- DEVO
> Don't suppose you care to provide a credible citation?
Read your own newspapers. I don't have the space to keep them all. If I
kept enough records to be able to respond with a couple of pages of citations
every time some idiot said "Nyaah nyaah, prove it, gimme a citation", I
wouldn't have any space left in my flat. It's enough work to track down
references to prove that George Bush really said atheists shouldn't be
considered citizens, or that Einstein wasn't a Christian, and those used to
get demanded every week.
And I suspect if I did track down the various issues of The Guardian which
have carried detailed reports on the subject, you'd dismiss them as "liberal
propaganda", just like Gregg dismisses the articles about Islam in The Times.
Did you miss Amnesty International's widely-announced report about torture in
China? It was in the news a couple of weeks ago. Oh, I forgot, that's just
liberal propaganda. I mean, is it plausible that the country responsible for
the Tienanmen Square massacre would torture and kill people? Naaah. Forget
it.
Keep up the good work. I'm sure China's "Most Favoured Nation" status will
be renewed in June, and you can feel really proud.
mathew
| 0alt.atheism |
Hey...
I may be wrong, but wasn't Jeff Fenholt part of Black Sabbath? He's a
MAJOR brother in Christ now. He totally changed his life around, and
he and his wife go on tours singing, witnessing, and spreading the
gospel for Christ. I may be wrong about Black Sabbath, but I know he
was in a similar band if it wasn't that particular group...
HOW GREAT IS TH LOVE THE FATHER HAS LAVISHED ON US, THAT WE SHOULD BE
CALLED CHILDREN OF GOD! AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE! (1 JOHN 3:1)
Grace and peace to all, (I'll see you ALL Someday!)
Jenny
jprzybyl@scott.skidmore.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <C5sFJv.FA1.1@cs.cmu.edu>, lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
wrote:
> According to this morning's Post-Gazette:
>
> The Pens will be carried by KDKA-Radio(1020 am), unless the Pirates
> are playing. When the Pirates play, the games will be carried by
> WDVE(102.5 fm). WDVE will carry 12 games, starting with tonight's
> game.
>
> In fact, after this season, KDKA will no longer be the flagship
> station for the Pens. The Penguins and KBL have struck a new
> deal regarding the TV and radio rights to the games. It seems
> more than likely that WDVE will be the flagship radio station next
> season. KBL will carry 62 games on tv, with 17 of the games to be
> simulcast on KDKA-TV. The remaining 22 games, as well as some of the
> early round playoff games, will be available by "subscription tv" only.
> To receive the games, you'll have to pay a one time hook up fee, and
> then a monthly fee of $11-12 dollars.
>
> Also, under the new deal, there will no longer be radio/tv
> simulcasts. There will be a TV broadcast team, and a radio
> broadcast team.
>
> No word on who the announcers will be. Mike Lange and Paul Steigerwald
> are both under contract with KDKA, but their contracts expire at the
> end of this season. KBL President Bill Craig said he'd like to hire
> Lange and Steigerwald.
>
> Lori
> Contact for the Penguins
> lli+@cs.cmu.edu
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Who's the mindscheme(?) behind this one -- Ted
Simmons? As the saying goes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'm 230
miles from home (during the school year) and will never be able to pick up
DVE. At least now I can sort of make out what Mike and Steigy say through
all the static on KDKA. This just may be enough reason for me to transfer
to Duquesne and live at home. Who's going to announce on DVE anyway?
Paulson and Krenn? (Just kidding.)
George
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <a_rubin.735498087@dsg4.dse.beckman.com>, a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com
(Arthur Rubin) writes:
|> In <nagleC5w79E.7HL@netcom.com> nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) writes:
|>
|> > Since the law requires that wiretaps be requested by the Executive
|> > Branch and approved by the Judicial Branch, it seems clear that one
|> > of the key registering bodies should be under the control of the
|> > Judicial Branch. I suggest the Supreme Court, or, regionally, the
|> > Courts of Appeal. More specifically, the offices of their Clerks.
|>
|> Now THAT makes sense. But the other half must be in a non-government
|> escrow.
Good idea, But why put all the eggs in one basket?
Given that the escrow keys are generated 200 at a time on floppy disks, why
not keep them there rather than creating one huge database that will have to
be guarded better than Fort Knox.
Give each floppy to a different bank for safekeeping. The USA has over 10,000
banks and thrifts - there are not likely to be more than 2,000,000 Clipper
phones sold.
Ross
| 11sci.crypt |
A friend of mine called me on the phone and told me he was wathcing CNN
and saw a report that the ruling prohibiting AMD from selling their i486
clones has been thrown out, making it legal for AMD to ship in the US.
Can anyone out there verify this?
Thanks in advance
Phil
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1483500377@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
>Subject: Zionist leaders' frank statements
>
>The following are quotations from Zionist leaders. They appear in
>numerous scholarly works dealing with the Palestine question. I urge those
>who have access to original sources, to verify the authenticity of the
>source and post here their finding, adhering to the truth whatever it be.
>Thanks.
>Elias Davidsson
>------------------------------
>
>Quotations from Zionist leaders
>
>1. "There was no such thing as Palestinians"
>(Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel, London Sunday
>Times, 15 June 1969)
They certainly never CALLED themselves "Palestinians"
>3. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be
>able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged
>cockroaches in a bottle."
>(Raphael Eitan, Israeli Chief of Staff, New York Times, 14
>April 1983)
Coming from a soldier that can't surprise you. Eitan is now in
charge of Tsomet, and there's a reason why he only gets a few votes
every year: They only elect him because he is squeaky clean, no
corruption.
>4. "[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
>(Menachem Begin, Prime Minister of Israel in a speech to
>the Knesset,
>quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, 'Begin and the "Beasts", New
>Statesman, 25 June 1982)
I'm ignorant. What's New Statesman?
>
>5. "Both the process of expropriation [of the Palestinians]
>and the removal of the poor must be carried out
>discreetly and circumspectly".
>(Dr. Theodor Herzl, The Complete Diaries, Herzl Press,
>1960, I., p.88)
Oh, those Crafty Jews again! When will you learn, anti-Semite from
Iceland.
>
>6. "Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no
>room for both people together in this country...The only
>solution is a Palestine.....without Arabs. And there is no
>other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to the
>neighboring countries, to transfer all of them; not one
>village, not one tribe, should be left."
>(Joseph Weitz, Jewish National Fund, administrator
>responsible for Zionist colonization. Davar, 29 September
>1967).
>
Let's face it, in 1967, what other view was there?
>7."We shall try to spirit the penniless population [the
>Palestinians] across the border by procuring employment
>for it in the transit countries, while denying it any
>employment in our own country"
>(Theodor Herzl, The Complete Diaries, Herzl Press, 1960,
>I, p.88)
>
The penniless could mean anyone, big guy. Grow up. I hate
your brackets.
>8. "[Zionists]...looked for means...to cause the tens of
>thousands of sulky Arabs who remained in the Galilee to
>flee...I gathered all the Jewish muktars, who have contact
>with Arabs in different villages and asked them to
>whisper in the ears of some Arabs that a great Jewish
>reinforcement has arrived in Galilee and that it is going
>to burn all of the villages of the Huleh. They should
>suggest to these Arabs, as their friends, to escape while
>there is still time....The tactic reached its goal....wide
>areas were cleaned."
>
>(Yig'al Alon, Sepher Ha Palmach, in Hebrew, II. p.268,
>quoted in Khalidi, From Haven to Conquest, IPS, 1971).
>
They gave them advance warning. Not like the PLO, eh?
>10. "[Jews] must expel Arabs and take their place"
>(David Ben Gurion, 1937, quoted in Shabtai Teveth, Ben
>Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press,
>1985, p. 89)
Yeah, yeah. More brackets. Am I too picky?
>
>11. "We must do everything to ensure they [the
>Palestinian refugees] never do return"
>(David Ben Gurion, in his diary, 19 July 1948, quoted in
>Michael Bar Zohar, Ben Gurion: The Armed Prophet,
>Prentice-Hall, 1967, p.157)
Bracket man.
>
>12. "The country was mostly an empty desert, with only
>a few islands of Arab settlement"
>(Shimon Peres, Minister of Defense, quoted in David's
>Sling: The Arming of Israel, Weidenfeld and Nicholson,
>1970, p.249)
>
That was the truth. Were you there, Elias?
>13. "All this story about the danger of extermination [of
>Jews] has been blown up....to justify the annexation of
>new Arab territories"
>(Mordechai Bentov, Israeli Cabinet Minister, Al
>Hamishmar, 14 April 1972)
So the Holocaust never happened, eh Naziman Elias?
>
>14. "Neither Jewish ethics nor Jewish tradition can
>disqualify terrorism as a means of combat"
>(Yitzhak Shamir, Hehazit, Summer 1943 [Journal of the
>LEHI, the Stern Gang], translated from the Israeli daily
>Al-Hamishmar, 24 December 1987
Lehi always warned in advance. Not the PLO, buddy boy.
>
>14. "The domination of Jewish agriculture by Arab
>workers is a cancer in our body"
>(A. Uzan, Israeli Minister of Agriculture, Ha'aretz, 13
>December 1974)
>
It was true! Why should Jews be unemployed? We say that in
America, Jerky.
>15. "There can be only one national home in Palestine,
>and that a Jewish one, and no equality in the partnership
>between Jews and Arabs"
>(Montague David Eder, President of the Zionist
>Federation of Great Britain, 1931,
>in Doreen Ingrams, comp., Palestine Papers 1917-1922,
>Seeds of Conflict, George Braziller, 1973, p. 135)
>
I firmly believe that today.
>16. "I hope that the Jewish frontiers of Palestine will be
>as great as Jewish energy for getting Palestine"
>(Dr. Chaim Weizmann, first President of the State of
>Israel, Excerpts from His Historic Statements, Writings
>and Addresses, Jewish Agency for Palestine, 1952, p.48)
>
You don't understand metaphor, Naziman.
And your quotes lead nowhere. Not only do I doubt there actuality,
but I guarantee they were compiled by some neo-Nazi group.
But I love your pseudo-intellectual approach. It makes you
sound even dumber than your conclusions.
Echad medinot leshtai amim.
Peace,
Pete
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Last week's MacWEEK article by Ric Ford indicated that David Ramsey's
Mac IIx has been running nicely with a Mac IIci ROM in it, offering
clean 32-bit ROM code (liberating his IIx from the virtual memory
nightmare caused by Apple's 32-bit System Enabler).
Does anyone know of a source for these ROMs? Is it okay for a
remanufacturer to resell only ROM chips from used machines? I know that
copies cannot be made, but it seems to me that it would be okay to
resell the original used ROM. (After all, reselling a used computer
involves the sale of the ROM anyway, so what's the difference?).
Needless to say, I'm interested in purchasing such a ROM. What would
be a reasonably price to offer?
/\/\ Morgan Davis Group (619/670-0563)
/ /__\ Internet: mdavis@crash.cts.com
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
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