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In article <strnlghtC5LGFI.JqA@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>Though some may argue about the nose of the camel, it's worth noting that
>the government proposal is limited to scrambled telephony. If it is only
>used for that purpose, and does not extend to electronic mail or file
>encryption, then it IS an improvement over the current mass-produced
>standard civilian technology which, with a few exceptions, is limited to
>easy-to-break inverters.
>
>Note that the big issue for the feds is the continued ability to wiretap.
>Before we go off the deep end with long discusions about secure crypto for
>e-mail and files, let's focus on this.
>
>One question that was not asked in the release is whether this proposal is
>limited to telephony, or if the government intends to expand it.
>
>Though I share many of the concerns expressed by some, I find the proposal
>less threatening than many others, since right now most Americans have no
>secure telephony, and any jerk with a pair of clip leads and a "goat" can
>eavesdrop. This would also plug up the security hole in cellular and
>cordless phones.
>
>-------
>
>Reading between the lines, I infer that the system is highly secure
>without access to the keys. This would meet the needs of U.S. businesses
>confronted by rich and powerful adversaries, including French and Japanese
>security services and rich Japanese companies. It allows the NSA to make
>available some of its better stuff while protecting law enforcement needs.
>
>Most legitimate U.S. corporations trust the NSA, and would be delighted to
>have a high-security system certified by them, even at the price of
>depositing keys in escrow. I see no difficulty in creating a reliable
>escrow. Corporations entrust their secrets to attorneys every day of the
>week, and that system has worked pretty well.
>
>From my point of view this is a fair starting point. There are concerns that
>need to be addressed, including the reliability of the escrows. But in
>return we get access to high-security crypto. Many have suggested that DES
>and other systems may be breakable by the NSA and hence others similarly
>skilled and endowed. There is at least a good possibility (which should be
>checked) that the proposed system is not so breakable. It doesn't have to
>be, nor does it have to have trapdoors, if the government can get the keys
>pursuant to a legitimate court order. Thus they can protect legitimate
>communications against economic adversaries, while still being able to
>eavesdrop on crooks pursuant to a court order.
>
Let me ask you this. Would you trust Richard Nixon with your
crypto keys? I wouldn't.
Doug Holland
| 11sci.crypt |
hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes:
>>>>*BUT* your performance WILL suck lemons running an Xserver on a clone.
>I have a clone almost with no name generating 91k xstones on a 486/33Mhz
>system.
Show me the realistic price tag...
>>>>I can get 15" Tektronix XP11 terminals for under $900, and the performance
>>>>is over 80000 Xstones.....
>Excuse me, but with a 486/50 256k cache, S3 928 ISA card, 8Mb XS3 (X11R5) running 386bsd you can get 100k+ xstones at 1024x768 65Mhz which I doubt
Nice, but way over $900....
My point is price/performance not just performance...
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| 5comp.windows.x |
david@c-cat.UUCP (Dave) write:
>are we talking about a SCSI-1 device (e.g. HD) on a SCSI-2 Controller
>or
>are we talking about a SCSI-1 Controller that had a chip upgrade
>using the same chip that is on a SCSI-2 controller board.
we are talking about a SCSI-1 device (e.g. HD) on a SCSI-2 Controller.
Here is a rewrite of my Mac & Info sheet SCSI section:
SCSI: only external device expansion interface common to both Mac and IBM.
Allows the use of any device: hard drive, printer, scanner, Nubus card
expansion {Mac Plus only}, some monitors, and CD-ROM. Normal {asynchronous}
SCSI is 5 Mhz; fast {synchronous} SCSI is 10 Mhz. Difference between these
modes is mainly in the software drivers.
Main problem: there are a lot of external devices which are internal
terminated which causes problems for more then two devises off the SCSI port
{A SCSI chain is supposed to be terminated ONLY at the begining and end.
Any other set up causes problems for either Mac or IBM}.
SCSI-1: 8-bit; 7 devices per SCSI controller. asynchronous {~1.5MB/s ave}
and synchronous {5MB/s max} transfers. 8-bit SCSI-2 is often mistaken for
a fast version of SCSI-1 {see SCSI-2 for details}.
SCSI-2: fully SCSI-1 compliant. SCSI-2 mode - 10 devices per SCSI controller.
8-bit SCSI-2 is implimented as a very fast SCSI-1 since it can run using
SCSI-1 hardware and software drivers which limits it to 7 devices, which
results in it sometimes being mistakenly consitered part of SCSI-1. 16-bit
and 32-bit SCSI-2 require different ports, electronics, and SCSI software
drivers from SCSI-1 {Which makes them more expensive than other SCSI
interfaces}. 32-bit SCSI seems to run only in synchronous mode, hence term
'wide and fast SCSI' Transfer speeds are 4-6MB/s with 10MB/s burst {8-bit},
8-12MB/s with 20MB/s burst {16-bit}, and 15-20MB/s with 40MB/s burst
{32-bit}.
8-bit SCSI-2 is the BIGGEST headache due to the fact that it is the ONLY SCSI-2
that I know of that can pump SCSI-2 speeds through SCSI-1 devices and software
controlers. Its MAIN implimentation is on the Mac though you do see adds
for SCSI-2 at 10MB/s maximum throughput for PCs. Since 8-bit SCSI-2 does NOT
NEED all the hardware {including electonics} and software of 16-bit and 32-bit
SCSI-2 it is the CHEEPEST of the SCSI-2 interfaces. Just pop out the SCSI-1
electornics and pop in 8-bit SCSI-2 electronics. Some people consider
16-bit where SCSI-2 REALLY starts {I USED to be one of them} but
4-6MB/s average though put with a theoretical burst of 10MB/s is NOT SCSI-1
but is 8-bit SCSI-2.
Rule of thumb: if it is SCSIn and OVER 5MB/s then it is SOME type of SCSI-2.
8-bit SCSI CAN use part of SCSI-1 electronics which further reduces its cost
compared to 16 and 32-bit SCSI-2.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
The Only directory I know of that lists commercial and non-commercial
widgets is the ICS Widget Data book. ICS sells the widgets for various
prices. There are also some public domain widgets in the delivery.
The ICS Widget databook is a subscription kind of thing, where
you pay some nominal fee, get a cd with the widgets and then you
can use the public domain widgets freely, and selectively activate
widgets which you want to purchase the right to use from them.
The nice thing about this is that you can purchase whole sets of widgets
such as those used in dataviews. I dont know there pricing schemes
but It is often better to buy than to redevelop the more complex
widgets, especially if you only one customer to distribute to.
This is the extent that I know about them except that I got their
databook catalog and it looked impressive (lots o' widgets there)
I dont work for ICS or have any widgets being sold by them.
hope this helps you.
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dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing
!uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy | | where it's not at... B.Dylan
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dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing
!uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy | | where it's not at... B.Dylan
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr21.053035.29591@mcs.kent.edu>, mhamilto@Nimitz.mcs.kent.edu
(The Lawnmowerman) says:
>[deleted]
>lives for <<<<HIS>>>> cause. Therefore it is Davids fault and not the ATF's
>who gave them 50 to 51 days to get out, this was 50 days to many for me and
>for many of the rest of the U.S. I am however sad to hear of the death of any
>child unlike the sick bastard I supposedly am.
>--
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>| Matthew R. Hamilton | mhamilto@mcs.kent.edu | A.K.A |
>| CS/ Physics Major | 1499h751@ksuvxb.kent.edu | (The Lawnmowerman) |
>| Kent State University | 1299h751@ksuvxb.kent.edu | |
How tragically ironic that a post like this should originate
from Kent State. Apparently the lessons of history have been
ignored there.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
How did the Leafs turn it around???
I couldn't get the Leaf games on the weekend in CA.
Did the Leaf defense wise up overnight?
Did the Leafs get in the slot or
was it just "fluke" goals in a goalie duel?
Did the Wings turn off the jets or muscle?
What gives here?
I caught game 1 on satellite. I figured my Leafs were washed.
This is a _major_ turnaround. Very few predicted this.
How, how, how did it happen?
Wing and Leaf perspectives welcomed!
-jake.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1993Apr30.094937.14281@daimi.aau.dk> rued@daimi.aau.dk writes:
>Hello there!
>
>A week ago a guy asked what a .SCO file was.SC(character).
>
>regards
>rued
>
>
Yes me, why?
--
Alex Kiernan
akiernan@falcon.demon.co.uk
| 1comp.graphics |
>Some of our students change the AMI bios passwords on a few of our computers
>and set it for always. What we'd like to know is if there is a way to bypass
>or remove the password. We have tried switching bios, but to no avail. The
>battery is soldered to the bord, an all three machines is still under
>guarentee so if that would have help we can't remove the batteries.
As far as I know, there is no way to get around the BIOS password except by
shorting out the power supply to the CMOS memory, thereby erasing it. This
will remove the password, but it will also destroy all the previous BIOS
settings, so then you'll have to go and set them all up again. On my 386,
there is a jumper on the motherboard which is provided for the purpose of
shorting the battery. You just short this jumper briefly, and it interrupts
power to the CMOS long enough to erase it. I would imagine there is
something like this on your board too.
In the future, I would suggest that YOU set the password, and leave it on
"Setup" only. That way, no-one else can go and reset it or set it to "
Always" unless they know what password you used. They had to do this over
here too when they got a bunch of new 386's, for just the same reason.
-Dale
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Hi,
has anyone more info about the XGA-2 chipset?
HW-funcs, TrueColor, Resolutions,...
Any boards with XGA-2 out yet?
thanks
Rainer
--
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University of Kansas City, MO
>> New mail from clinton@whitehouse.dc.gov - (No Subject Specified)
| 1comp.graphics |
Len Howard (tas@pegasus.com) wrote:
: Well, now, Doc, I sure would not want to bet my life on those little
: critters not being able to get thru one layer of sweat-soaked cotton
: on their way to do their programmed task. Infrequent, yes, unlikely,
: yes, but impossible? I learned a long time ago never to say never in
: medicine <g> Len Howard MD, FACOG
Yes, I suppose a single layer of wet cotton would be feasible. After all,
we certainly do not make condoms out of cotton!]
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
= Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh =
= General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer!" =
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| 13sci.med |
In article <C5stEL.K0E@boi.hp.com> dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) writes:
>>Dear Brother Bill,
>>
>>One way or another -- so much for patience. Too bad you couldn't just
>>wait. Was the prospect of God's Message just too much to take?
>
> So do you want the president to specifically order each and every activity
>of the FBI, or what? And how willing are you to blame Reagan and Bush,
>directly, for the incidents that took place in the War on Drugs in their
>administration? Are you going to blame Bush for the fact that Weaver's wife,
>infant, son were killed? It happened while he was president.
>
This was obviously a lot different than the ordinary FBI adventure.
I believe that the Federal officers had a conflict of interests here.
Throught out the whole affair, it seamed to me that they were chiefly
concerned with saving face rather than saving lifes. Its true that
The BD were resisting arrest and that they should have surrendered
when they first realized that these where federal officers. But they
didn`t.
But when they didn`t, the FBI should not have treated as a hostage
situation, it wasn't.
I think more discussions, possible independant negotiators, and
family intervention should have been used.
Of course this is just monday morning Quartberbaking...or is it?
I don`t think I shall every forget Reno responding to Ted
Koppels Questions last night. Watching the AG squirm when
telling us that the only reason they "stepped it up" a bit
was because of there fear for the safety of the Children.
When I think of the Chief role of the Government--To protect and
to serve....I ask myself--Just who where they protecting and just
who where they serving?
I did see a flag at half mast today. I wonder who they are mourning.
cjk@netcom.com
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1993Apr23.162517.14029@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com>, kam@cv.hp.com (Keith Marchington) writes:
> Good question. Take an objective look at what happened, listen to the
> things that the FBI said ("The BD's started the fire." "The BD's bodies
> were found with gunshot wounds.") that are now being refuted by the
> evidence being recovered. Seems that the FBI is deliberately making
> statements that have no rational basis in fact, and trying to make
> them sound like fact.
That's another sad thing. I'd expect this sort of shit from the BATF.
But I'm goddamn disappointed in the FBI. They used to be professionals.
--
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr20.050956.25141@freenet.carleton.ca> aa624@Freenet.carleton.
ca (Suat Kiniklioglu) [a.k.a. Kubilay Kultigin] writes:
[KK] david
Yes?
[KK] give it a rest. will you ???
No.
[KK] it is increasingly becoming very annoying...
Barbarism is rather annoying for you, now isn't it, especially when it comes
from from a country, Azerbaijan, that claims Turkey as its number one ally,
protector, and mentor!
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr15.161730.9903@cs.cornell.edu>, tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
|>
|> Why are the Red Sox in first place? Eight games into the season, they
|> already have two wins each from Clemens and Viola. Clemens starts
|> again tonight, on three days rest.
Huh? Clemens pitched last on Saturday, giving him his usual four days
rest.
|> What's up? Are the Sox going with a four-man rotation? Is this why
|> Hesketh was used in relief last night?
--
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"I didn't think I should've been asked to catch
when the temperature was below my age."
- Carlton Fisk, Chicago White Sox catcher,
on playing during a 40-degree April ball game
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <CMM.0.90.2.734911642.thomasp@surt.ifi.uio.no>, Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> If I would like to have a handgun, i would have to get an gun-licence from
> the police and to be a member of a gun-club.
> The police would check my criminal records for any SERIOUS crimes and/or
> records of SERIOUS mental diseases.
> Now, if a got my licence, I would have to be an active member of the gun
> -club for 6 months BEFORE I could collect my gun.
So, like, what do you do during those six months to be "active?"
My town has a similar requirement, and it's rather stupid. Before
you can buy a handgun, you have to be an active member of a gun club.
Well, how active can you be without a gun, chief?
Most gun owners feel a check of criminal records for crimes and mental
disorders would be a very good thing -- IF it couldn't be abused by the
government. But every time this is proposed, there is always some
trapdoor by which the government can deny your purchase EVEN IF you
are perfectly qualified to own a gun. And we oppose this.
> It's a little like getting a drivers licence isn't it ???
> You have to prove that you CAN drive before you are allowed to...
Since the fatal accident rate for licensed automobile drivers in the US
is around 50 times the fatal accident rate of largely unlicensed gun
owners, I'd think twice before using this analogy.
Besides, the problem is criminal use of guns, not accidents. (There
are about 500,000 criminal uses of guns in the US every year -- but
only 1,400 accidents.) I don't think it's necessary to spend a lot
of energy making sure a criminal CAN shoot a gun before he gets one.
Just like the check, most gun owners feel positively about requiring
safety courses -- IF they couldn't be abused by the government. But
they already have! One state doesn't hold the courses, another doesn't
fund them, a third holds them only once a year with limited attendence
to those with political connections. Is this fair?
> Most criminals accuire guns to use them in crimes, and mostly short
> time befor the crime.
And how many of them acquire these guns from legal retail outlets?
How many are borrowed, stolen, smuggled, bought on the black market?
> Use of knives:
> It IS allowed to cary knifes in public, but not in your belt or 'open'.
> You (Americans) think it's ok to have a gun, but not to carry it open
> in public -rigth ??
Some states allow ONLY open carry. Some allow ONLY concealed carry.
Some allow both. Some allow both, but require licenses for concealed
carry. All you can say is if one of these modes has a clear advantage
over another in terms of reducing crime or any other public good,
then state legislators SOMEPLACE are doing exactly the wrong thing.
Which means that they really don't have any objective reasons for
these laws other than their preferences -- a bad way to govern.
> Scandinavians ARE 'aggressive':
> We northeners are not as hot-livered as southeners, but when we decide
> to take action we DO.
("Hot-livered." I LOVE that expression. Here, we say "hot-headed.")
> Individual vs masses:
> Yes the individual is more important than the masses, but only to some
> extent....
> Your criminal laws are to protect the individuals who makes the masses ??
> What happens when the rigths of some individuals affects the rights of
> all the others ??
Typically, the only criminals who can affect the rights of ALL the other
people are criminals in government offices. The rest of our criminals
affect the rights of only one or a few people at a time, and they do this
during the commission of a crime. POSSESSION of a gun by someone hurts
NO ONE else. It is when they do something violent with that gun that
the crime occurs. Of course, it is a crime for a felon or ex-felon to
possess a gun, but we don't feel it is right to treat common citizens
who have lived good lives as if they were just "pre-felons" waiting to
commit crimes.
> We shouldn't mix weapons and items that can serve as one....
I don't understand this sentence.
> IF i lived in Amerika I would probably have a gun to defend myselfe in HOME.
> But should it have to be like that ??
Life isn't fair. I shouldn't need a fire extinguisher either, or
flood and theft insurance, or to lock the doors of my house and car.
But pining for a better world won't do anything to address what I have
to do to live in this one.
> Do you think it's wise to sell guns like candy (some states do...) ??
None of ours, I'm sure.
> If you believe it's smart/neccacery to have drivers-licence WHY do you think
> it should be free to buy guns ??
Frankly, I'm not sure I know what good a driver's license does anyone,
either. The people who drive safely never use it, and the people who
drive drunk, drive without it!
However, a car is a good tool, but not one that protects my right to life.
I rank the right to life somewhere north of the right to travel freely.
> I'm not a pacifist or anti gun.
> I would defend my home, loved ones and country, but I don't view guns as
> neccities or toys.
> I HAVE done army service, and HAVE used a variaty of weapons, but wouldn't
> want to have one for self defence or because they 'feel good'....
The question is not whether or not you want to own guns personally. It's
whether or not you think that ALL people should be forced to do as you do.
I don't have any problem with someone who says they would never own a gun.
I do have a problem with someone who says I should be prevented from owning
one, too.
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <C50orq.7G0@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, gwg33762@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Garret W. Gengler) writes...
>In sci.space you write:
>
>>Try the ENVIRONET database at GSFC. FTP to envnet.gsfc.nasa.gov or
>>128.183.104.16, or call (310)286-5690. They have data on STS, Ariane, Titan,
>>Atlas, Delta and Scout launch environments.
>
>Howdy. Thanks for the info.
>
>I tried "anonymous" FTP there, but it didn't work.
>I also tried telnetting to the same address, but it asked for a login
>and password, although there was a note saying that the new username for
>environet was "envnet".
>
>Anyways, do you have any idea what else I should try?
>
>Thanks,
>Garret
>
>
The home office number for ENVIRONET is (301) 286-5690 (note area
code change). A friend of mine used to use it to get LDEF data, but
he had to apply for a login name and password. I have a call in for
more info, which I hope to get in the morning.
David W. @ GSFC
| 14sci.space |
Would someone be willing to explain to me the 486DX 50MHz is not more
popular than it is? I would think it would be just as fast, if not
faster than the 486DX 66MHz for certian applications. Plus, a 50MHz
motherboard would seem better if you had any plans on upgrading the
chip in the future. I must be missing something, since everyone is
buying the DX2 66... Many adds don't even mention the DX 50.
Thanks a lot,
-Matt
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In <1993Apr20.154658@IASTATE.EDU> kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub) writes:
>In article <lt8d3bINNj1g@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM
>(Eric Marsh) writes:
>>In article <1qvmk2$csk@morrow.stanford.edu> salem@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bruce
>Salem) writes:
>>> I wonder if the Universe would look like a Black Hole
>>>from "outside"? How could we posit an "Outside", whether called
>>>DeSitter space, hyperspace, parallel universes, whatever?
>>
>>I don't think that the universe would look like a black hole from
>>the outside, because that would imply that similar to a black hole we
>>would see stuff coming in from the "outside."
> Now that has always confused me. Once a black hole forms, I don't see how
>anything could pass the event horizon (perhaps including the original mass that
>formed (is forming) the black hole in the first place.
> Let's say that we drop a marble into the black hole. It races, ever faster,
>towards the even horizon. But, thanks to the curving of space caused by the
>excessive gravity, as the object approaches the event horizon it has further to
>travel. Integrating the curve gives a time to reach the event horizon of . . .
>infinity. So the math says that nothing can enter a black hole.
No it doesn't. Check again in any of the popular GR texts (Misner,
Thorne, and Wheeler, for example). It takes a finite proper time for
anything near the horizon to cross it (if it's going to in the first
place), and a finite proper time for anything crossing the horizon to
reach r=0.
> | __L__
>-|- ___ Warren Kurt vonRoeschlaub
> | | o | kv07@iastate.edu
> |/ `---' Iowa State University
>/| ___ Math Department
> | |___| 400 Carver Hall
> | |___| Ames, IA 50011
> J _____
--
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Paul J. Schinder
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov
| 0alt.atheism |
Today marks the 78th anniversary of the Armenian genocide of
2.5 million Turks and Kurds in Eastern Anatolia and x-Soviet
Armenia. The following letter, which represents a small portion
of the full text, along with more than 200 pages of historical
documents, scholarly sources, eyewitness accounts and photographs,
was sent to President Bill Clinton, members of Congress, editors,
program directors and columnists of major newspapers, journals and
radio/TV stations for the 78th anniversary of the Armenian genocide
of 2.5 million Muslim people. On April 23 of every year, the people
of Turkiye remember their dead. They grieve for lost family and the
lost homes of their grandfathers. This year the Turkish Nation is
mourning and praying again for her fallen heroes who gave their
lives generously and with altruism, so that the future generations
may live on that anointed soil of the Turkish land happily and
prosperously.
------------------------- letter ----------------------------------
During the years of World War I, the x-Soviet Armenian Government
has planned and perpetrated the 'Genocide' of the Muslim people, which
not only took the lives of 2.5 million Muslim people, but was also the
method used to empty the Turkish homeland of its inhabitants. To this day,
Turkish historic lands remain occupied by the x-Soviet Armenia. In order
to cover up the fact of its usurpation of the historic Turkish homeland,
which is the crux of Turkish political demands, fascist x-Soviet Armenia
continues its anti-Turkish policy in the following ways:
1. x-Soviet Armenia denies the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide
in order to shift international public opinion away from its political
responsibility.
2. x-Soviet Armenia, employing ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism
Triangle, attempts to call into question the veracity of the Turkish
Genocide.
3. x-Soviet Armenia has also implemented state-sponsored terrorism through
the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle in an attempt to
silence the Turkish people's vehement demands and protests.
4. Using all its human, financial, and governmental resources, x-Soviet
Armenia and its tools in the United States attempt to silence through
terrorism, bribery and other subversive methods, non-Turkish supporters
of the Turkish cause, be they political, governmental and humanitarian.
Using all the aforementioned methods, the x-Soviet Armenian Government
is attempting to neutralize the international diplomatic community from
making the Turkish Case a contemporary issue.
Yet despite the efforts of the x-Soviet Armenian Government and its
terrorist and revisionist organizations, in the last decades, thanks
to the struggle of those whose closest ones have been systematically
exterminated by the Armenians, the international wall of silence on
this issue has begun to collapse, and consequently a number of
governments and organizations have become supportive of the recognition
of the Turkish Genocide.
With the full knowledge that the struggle for the Turkish territorial
demands are still in their initial stages, the Turkish and Kurdish people
will unflaggingly continue in this sacred struggle, therefore the victims
of the Turkish Genocide demand:
1. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government, as the heirs of the Armenian
Dictatorship, recognize the Turkish Genocide;
2. that x-Soviet Armenia return the historic homeland to the Turkish and
Kurdish people;
3. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government make material reparations for
their heinous and unspeakable crime to the victims of the Turkish Genocide;
4. that all world governments, and especially the United States, officially
recognize the Turkish Genocide and Turkish territorial rights and refuse
to succumb to all Armenian political pressure;
5. that the U.S. Government free itself from the friendly position it
has adopted towards its unreliable ally, x-Soviet Armenia, and officially
recognize the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide as well as be
supportive of the pursuit of Turkish territorial demands;
6. that the x-Soviet Republics officially recognize the historical fact
of the Turkish Genocide and include the cold-blooded extermination of
2.5 million Muslim people in their history books.
The awareness of the Turkish people of the necessity of solidarity in the
efforts to pursue the Turkish Cause is seen by the victims of the first
genocide of the 20th century as a positive step. Furthermore, a new
generation has risen - equipped with a deep sense of commitment, politically
mature and conscious, who determinedly pursue the Turkish Cause, through
all necessary means, ranging from the political and diplomatic to the
armed struggle. Therefore, the victims of the Turkish Genocide call upon
all Muslims in the United States and Canada to participate vigorously in
the political, cultural and religious activities of the 78th Anniversary
of the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <C6ADru.JpF@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>, uphya001@odie.uni-bielefeld.de (Lars Koeller,D0-231/258,1065375,0526189607) writes:
|> ---
|> Hello!
|>
|> We want to configure our X11R5 sytem (i486 33Mhz running BSD-like UNIX)
|> comming up with a chooser menu with different machines on it (works) an then
|> connect to them. But the only connection works is localhost!
|> An 'X -indirect <machine>' works very well!
|> The configuration:
|>
|> - starting the 'xdm' at boot time with no servers specified
|> in Xservers
|> - starting the X-server at boot time with X -indirect localhost
|>
........... more deleted
You need to start the X-server with -indirect its_name.
If you start it with -indirect localhost, it use the loopback adress as
it's adress. So when it try to contact another host, this one try to answer
on its loopback adress. Not good.
Remember that every machine has the adress 127.0.0.1 on the loopback network.
--
Pierre Verpeaux DMT/SEMT/LAMS (1)69.08.65.42
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article F00001@permanet.org, Mark.Prado@p2.f349.n109.z1.permanet.org (Mark Prado) writes:
>Please go just one step further:
>How has the word "Clementine" been associated with mining?
>
Could be the (folk?) song "Clementine". If memory serves, part of it goes:
In a cavern, by a canyon,
Excavating for a mine,
Dwelt a miner, forty-niner,
and his daughter, Clementine.
Anyone who watched Huckleberry Hound can sing you the chorus :-)
Is there a story/real person behind the song?
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| 14sci.space |
Tapes for sale, $3.00 each and the shipping is included.
Those tapes are 1 year old and are hardly used, so there should
not be any problem with it. I really want to sell them, so make
me a package offer if you wish to.
Eagles The Best of Eagles
Eagles Hotel California
Elton John Sleeping with the past
Gloria Estefan Into the Light
James Ingram The Power of Great Music
Kenny G. Duo Tones
Lethal Weapon 3 ( music from the motion picture )
Mariah Carey MTV Unplugged EP
Michael Bolton Time, Love and Tenderness
The Phantom of the Opera
Genesis We can't dance
Phil Collins ... But Seriously
Queen The Works
Queen Live Magic
Wilson Phillips
Send me your offer...
Please send your offer to koutd@hirama.hiram.edu
thanks you,
Douglas Kou
Hiram College
Hiram, Ohio
| 6misc.forsale |
>NEWSPAPER AD CENSORSHIP
>
>The newspapers have now decided to censor gun ads - which is why you no longer
>see the ads that Traders, San Leandro, has run for many years.
>
>If you are tired of newspapers who run sex and liquor ads galor, yet refuse to
>run legitimate gun ads, please send a letter to the editors indicating your
>displeasure over their censorship doctrine.
>
>Following is a list of Bay area newspapers who censor gun ads. Perhaps you'd
>like to send them your thoughts on this issue!
>
>Contra Costa Times San Mateo Times San Francisco Chronicle
>POB 5088 POB 5400 901 Mission St.
>Walnut Creek, CA 94596 San Mateo, CA 94402 San Francisco, CA 94103
>
>San Fran. Independent San Fran. Examiner San Jose Mercury News
>1201 Evans Ave 110 5th St. 750 Ridder Park Dr.
>San Fran., CA 94124 San Fran., CA 94103 San Jose, CA 95190
I have the April 15, 1993 issue of the SF Chronicle in my lap. Page
E7 (in the "Sporting Green" section) has a Trader's advert. (The
copy is a bit screwed up - it says that the prices offered expire
4-14-93, but the ad is there.)
The SF Examiner and Chronicle run the same set of adverts (because
they have a joint printing/biz agreement and differ only in editorial
content).
I've seen gun ads recently in the merc, which is anti-gun editorially,
albeit not from traders, but from its competitors.
I don't know about the other papers.
Does Traders claim that things are changing? When?
>- Why TV journalists lie
Because it's easier than telling the truth and no one much cares
either way.
>Let me know if you write to any of these bozos.
Before you do, make sure that the bozos are actually doing what
you're accusing them of.
-andy
--
| 16talk.politics.guns |
If available please send to
Glen Moore
Director
Science Centre
Wollongong, Australia
fax: 61 42 213151 email: gkm@cc.uow.edu.au
| 14sci.space |
In article <oprsfnx.735015349@gsusgi1.gsu.edu> oprsfnx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Stephen F. Nicholas) writes:
>daubendr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Darren R Daubenspeck) writes:
>
>
>>> they are pretty much junk, stay away from them. they will be replaced next
>>> year with all new models.
>
>
>>Junk? They've made the C&D lists for years due to their excellent handling and
>>acceleration. They have been around since about, oh, 85 or 86, so they're not
>>the newest on the lot, and mileage is about five to eight MPG under the class
>>leader. You can get into a 3.0 L v-6 (141 hp) Shadow for $10~11K (the I-4
>>turbo a bit more), and a droptop for $14~15K.
>
>
> As an ex-Fleet Mgr. of 3000 cars, they were amoung the most trouble free of
>all models. I bought one for my wife.
>
*nnnnnnnng* Thank you for playing, I cannot agree with this. I believed
this and to put it nicely, it was a piece of junk!
I loved this car, I babied it, I pampered it, and after 2 years, it just
couldn't stay together, I would say that not everyone will have the
problems that I had, but know this, it's not just the car, it is the
ability to get the car fixed, which will NOT happen at any
chrysler/dodge/take your pick dealer. I don't care if there are going to
reform their dealers/service with the intro of the LH cars, I will believe
it when I see it. Case and point, the local dodge dealer. You drive up,
just looking, you don't even get out of your door, when about 10 (yes 10)
salesman all eye you like their next meal, and literally pounce on you,
and try to get you to make a deal, on everything your eye wanders towards.
Service is about 2 times worse than that. I had an alignment problem, but
they tried to tell me that the K frame was bent, and about 2000 dollars of
work/parts to fix it. Let me tell you the problems I had, and I took care
of this car, I put alot of miles on it in the first couple years, but took
it to every checkup it needed, and many that shouldn't have been.
1988 Dodge Shadow ES
These were replaced within the 4 years that I owned the car.
Engine
4 Alternators
Rear Suspension Torsion Bar
2 Water pumps
5 thermostats
Hall effect sensor
Main computer
4 Batteries
These were rebuilt/repaired
Radiator
Automatic Transmission
Power Steering
Those are just the things I can remember off the top of my head. For
about a year before I sold the car, I said to myself, it's a good car, I
just can't find anybody competent enough the fix it. In the end, before I
traded it in for a Saturn, the power steering started acting up again. I
just stopped putting money into it. I must have put at least $5000-$7000
worth of repairs over it's lifetime. I am sorry but Lee Iacocca can bite
me. Bullshit, whoever backs em best, is just afraid the stupid things are
going to fall apart, and no one will buy them without assurance, why the
hell do you think that LH has been nicknamed Last Hope.
You can do better, and I know people will disagree with me here, but
Japanese, like Honda, or Toyota, or the only american car company that I
feel is a quality product, Saturn. I will not touch another chrysler
product again, no way. I don't care how good the LH cars look good, and I
will admit they look promising, but not with the support that you get. GM
isn't much better, thank god, they don't control Saturn, like they do
their divisions, or it would be just another marketing ploy.
Don't get me wrong, i will be watching my car (which I do like) like a
hawk for the next 4 years. I am much more hesitant to say it (or any) car
is really good, until it has proved itself to me.
But since someone else pointed out C&D as a source. I will note, because
I used to read these magazines, that Car and Driver has never had a good
thing to say about most Chrysler products (Shadow for one), always were
they moaning about the reguritated K-car, and engine. Whereas Motor Trend
always thought they were great cars. No car magazine is really objective.
And although there are alot of people who don't like Consumers Reports, I
will use them to reinforce my argument (I already know about the big stink
with the Saturn crash tests, time will tell how good a car they are), the
shadow/sundance rate much worse than average, in fact none of the
chrysler's rate a better than average, I think the best one is just
average. Excluding the diamond star/mitsubishi stuff and the LH's. You
can find bad stuff about the Shadow. Try as I might, when I researched
the Saturn, I could not find anything bad about it. There is a great deal
of information about this company, just because it is a new american
company and it has created quite a stir in the automotive community, for
good reason. Much more than the introduction of any new model lines of
any established company. I read an article, which had a sub-column, an I
think this imprinted on me more than anything else. Some big wig in
Toyota said and I quote, "We are watching them very closely." Come on,
everybody grow up, the foreign cars, especially the japanese have been
kicking our butts, for good reason, the american car companies could not make
a good product or support the customer the way they want these days, to
set in their ways, which is one of the reasons Saturn was created. They
are still struggling because they haven't learned yet. They have the
ability, the workers are not inferior, the technology is not out of date,
but their attitude is, and they are just finding this out. It's called
competition gentleman/women if you don't satisfy the demand of the
consumer, well your out..
*asbestos suit on*
Gaia
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1rkloc$k49@picasso.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> gpatapis@boyd.tansu.com.au writes:
>
>In article 1369@qdeck.com, support@qdeck.com (Technical Support) writes:
>>In article <1qtk84$rn5@picasso.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> gpatapis@boyd.tansu.com.au writes:
>>
>>>What sort of traffic is generated with the X-calls? I am curious to find
>>>out the required bandwidth that a link must have if one machine running
>>>DV/X is supporting multiple users (clients) and we require adequate response
>>>time. Anyone have any ideas ??
>>
>>I expect the limiting factor will be your server machine, not the network
>>itself. To give you a real-world example, here at Quarterdeck we have
>>roughly 100 people using DVX to talk to a bunch of unix boxes, novell
>>file servers, and each other. It's not _too_ much of a load on our
>>Ethernet (with maybe 4 concentrators, so you have 20-30 people on each
>>segment). If you had a badly loaded net, or the apps you wanted to run
>>were very network intensive, you could run into some slowdowns.
>>
>>But the biggest problem would be the machine itself. Say you have a 486
>>33 with plenty of ram and a fast hard disk and network card. If you have
>>10 people running programs off it, you're going to see some slowdowns
>>because you're now on (effectively) a 3.3 MHz 486. Of course, DVX will
>>attempt to see if tasks are idle and make sure they give up their time
>>slice, but if you have 10 working programs running, you'll know it.
>>
>
>Well I can buy a bigger and more powerful server machine because of the
>significant drop in price year after year. The link I want to use
>though (ISDN 64K) is costly and the bandwidth limited. That's why my
>interest lies in seeing if such a link can be used and see what traffic
>goes through it.
Since I don't think Tom always gets time to read this group, I'll take the
liberty of responding to some of this. If you really want Tom to reply
you should send mail to support@qdeck.com.
A 64k line is certainly going to restrict you far more than the 10mbps
ethernet that we typically run. How restrictive it will be depends on
what you run and how you run it. I would think that a couple of instances
of some really nasty program like "Smoking Clover" would make the link
useless for anyone else. On the other hand, probably 50 xclocks quietly
updating every 10 seconds or so wouldn't impact it too much. In the real
world, you will be somewhere in between these two extremes.
Going by the way I personally use X on a daily basis, I wouldn't want to have
to share that 64k link with more than 3-4 other people.
>>Having said that, if you can tweak the programs being run (by adding
>>in calls to give up time slices when idle and that sort of
>>thing), you could probably run 15-20 people on a given machine before
>>you started seeing slowdowns again (this time from network bandwidth).
>
>Hmmm. Has anyone at your centre monitored the traffic at all? Are you
>running any standard MS-Windows programs like Word ? What sort of
>packets go blazing through? What size link do you have (2Mb or 10Mb ?).
>What is the average traffic flow going through your network or do you
>have few high peaks and then many low points?
Our corporate WAN is as unique as any other. The usage patterns are not very
good predictors of how yours will behave. The only one of our low bandwidth
links that normally get used in this way is a 56k link to Ireland that they
often use to run a DOS text based client end of a client-server database
remotely from the DVX machine behind me. Since the server end is (or was) always
at this end (California) it is faster to remotely run the client via DESQview
X and have a short hop to the server than running the client locally and having
a long hop to the server. As I warned you, this tells us very little about
how you usage pattern will fill a 64k ISDN link.
Running Word for Windows remotely is going to itself be very usage dependent.
Let's break it into pieces and look at it. Tracking the mouse pointer is easy
and efficient to translate from Windows calls into X. Popping up a menu is a
little more involved and will generate some traffic. Restoring the screen
that was covered by that menu may be easy and may not be. Does the server
that it's displaying on have backing store? If so and the server had enough
memory the display can be updated locally and will generate little network
traffic. If no backing store, then what was being covered up? If it was a
solid colored rectangle of space we can tell your xserver to draw that quite
easily. If it was a full color backdrop of Ren & Stimpy we may have to send
it back to the X server bit by bit. DVX will do its level best to only redraw
that small area, but in some unusual cases the entire screen may need to be
repainted. Assuning a 1024x768 screen with 4 bits per pixel that's 3145728 bits
that has to be sent. Worst possible case you're looking at about 50 seconds.
In reality it would never be this bad since the screen will always have parts
that will be tranlatable into higher level X calls.
>
>
>>It all really depends on what the programs are doing (ie. you're going
>>to see a slowdown from X-bandwidth a lot sooner if your apps are all
>>doing network things also...)
>>--
>
>What do you mean by network things? I vision using MS Windows and other
>Windows applications over the network were the processes are running on
>the server and all I am getting are the displays. I am wondering how
>good is the X and subsequently DV/X protocol in transferring these
>images with X-calls and displaying them on a client's machine.
X was designed from the ground up to be efficient across a network. It's
pretty good for this. X programs are best, DOS text programs are almost
as good (since we conert them to X easily). Something like WinX is a hybrid.
We intercept the calls Windows makes to it's graphics driver/ mouse driver
keyboard driver and convert them to X. The calls Windows is making are in
no way designed to be efficient on a packet switched network. We go to a
lot of trouble to convert them to the highes level Xlib calls we can, but
we are somewhat limited because we only know what Windows and its applications
tell us.
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In article <2BCE6222.24844@news.service.uci.edu> tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
>In article <2BCA3DC0.13224@news.service.uci.edu> tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
>>
>>The latest Israeli "proposal", first proposed in February of 1992, contains
>>the following assumptions concerning the nature of any "interim status" refering to the WB and Gaza, the Palestinians, implemented by negotiations. It
>>states that:
>> >Israel will remain the existing source of authority until "final status"
>> is agreed upon;
>> >The exercise of powers under the ISGA will be subject to cooperation and
>> coordination with Israel.
>> >Israel will negotiate delegation of powers and responsibilities in the
>> areas of administration, justice, personnel, agriculture, education,
>> business, tourism, labor and social welfare, local police,
>> local transportation and communications, municipal affairs and religious
>> affairs.
>>
>>The Palestinian counterproposal of March 1992:
>> >There will be no limitations on its (PISGA) powers and responsibilities
>> "except those which derive from its character as an interim arrangement";
>> >It will have a strong police force responsible for security and public
>> order in the OPT;
>> >It can request the assistance of a UN peacekeeping force;
>> >Disputes with Israel over self-governing arrangements will be settled by
>> a committee composed of representatives of the five permanent members of
>> the UN Security Council, the Secretary General (of the UN), the PISGA,
>> Jordan, Egypt, Syria and Israel.
>>
I have read that there will be some concrete proposals concerning creation
of a "palestinian police force" during the talk's next stage. Does anyone
knows of the details of this idea? How does it "fit" with the differing
conceptions listed above?
--
Tim Clock Ph.D./Graduate student
UCI tel#: 714,8565361 Department of Politics and Society
fax#: 714,8568441 University of California - Irvine
Home tel#: 714,8563446 Irvine, CA 92717
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <mattm-140493165729@mcmelmon.apple.com>, mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>
> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I was under the impression that the Marines
> in question invited Clinton down for the same treatment. While a
> bar fight is a bar fight, threatening the Commander in Chief seems
> a rather unprofessional thing for a professional soldier to do...
>
>
Also, it appears that two of the three Marines have some sort of charges
pending against them from another fight they were in a week before.
Interesting.
Frank
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Frank R. Chloupek
CHLOUPEK@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Department of Physics -- *The* Ohio State University
(Not just any Ohio State University)
"There is only one hard-and-fast rule about the place to have a party:
somebody else's place."
--P.J. O'Rourke
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <Stafford-210493125617@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford) writes:
>In article <wrs.4180@wslack.UUCP>, wrs@wslack.UUCP (Bill Slack) wrote:
>
>> Uh, folks, the shaft doesn't have diddleysquatpoop to do with it. I can get
>> the front wheel off the ground on my /5, ferchrissake!
>
> The statement above is _true_ to the spirit of the list because
> it is a false statement. Misinformation: that's the spirit, Bill.
>
> My /5 will do wheelies because it's a chain drive model.
>
Wow, is that custom made?
I wish I could get chain drive for my slashfive so
I _too_ can do wheelies and be real squiddly.
--
Andy Infante | You can listen to what everybody says, but the fact remains |
'71 BMW R60/5 | that you've got to get out there and do the thing yourself. |
DoD #2426 | -- Joan Sutherland |
==============| My opinions, dammit, have nothing to do with anyone else!!! |
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <1993Apr23.214110.15315@sarah.albany.edu> jr0930@eve.albany.edu (DIAMOND) writes:
>When running DOS 5.0 under Windows 3.0, I lose the ability to do a
>print-screen.
>I have no problem with this when I'm running DOS not under Windows.
...
Open up the .PIF file with the PIF Editor, click on the "Advanced" button,
and then reserve the PrtSc key for the application. Any keys that you
select in this section will be passed along to the application rather than
being processed by Windows.
--
Bob Nichols
AT&T Bell Laboratories
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr18.061532.3288@uoft02.utoledo.edu>,
steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Jason 'Think!' Steiner) says:
>
>Jason Kratz (U28037@uicvm.uic.edu) writes:
>>
>> Say you're in a situation where you have to pull a gun on somebody.
>> You give them a chance to get away but they decided to continue in
>> their action anyway and you end up shooting and killing them. My
>> question is what do you do? Should you stay and wait for the cops
>> or should you collect your brass (if you're using a semi-auto) and
>> get out of there (provided of course you don't think that you have
>> been seen)? What kind of laws are on the books regarding this type
>> of situation? What would be the most likely thing to happen to you
>> if you stayed and waited and it was a first offense? What would
>> happen if you took off but someone saw you and you were caught?
>
>ghods. do you have -any- idea how much trouble you'd get into for
>taking off like that? leaving the scene of an auto accident is bad
>enough! killing someone & leaving is 10 times worse. who's going
>to seriously believe it was self-defense when you took the time
>to collect your spent casings? "But officer, I reload!"
>
Well, like someone said in a reply to this it really all depends on the area
that you live in. See David Veal's reply to this. I have heard exactly the
same thing that he said in his reply - to fade away if you think that you
haven't been seen (I heard this from a police officer). For the record though
he was talking about in Tennessee - not everywhere.
>even if you could get away with it, you're still a fugitive. do
>it nice & legal, keep your law-abiding status & send your story
>into the Armed Citizen column of American Rifleman.
>
>jason
>
>--
Jason - u28037@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <C6A2At.E9z@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>
>No, the thing is designed to be retrievable, in a pinch. Indeed, this
>dictated a rather odd design for the solar arrays, since they had to be
>retractable as well as extendable, and may thus have indirectly contributed
>to the array-flapping problems.
Why not design the solar arrays to be detachable. if the shuttle is going
to retunr the HST, what bother are some arrays. just fit them with a quick release.
one space walk, or use the second canadarm to remove the arrays.
pat
| 14sci.space |
Have I mailed this to the correct newsgroup(s)? Are there other newsgroup(s)
which cover the following topic?
--------
Has anyone with myopia (short-sightedness) ever done the Bates eye-exercises?
If so, could you please e-mail me the following information:
- age and state of sight before exercises were commenced;
- type, frequency, and length of time spent on exercises performed;
- improvements noticed immediately after performing exercises;
- length of period before any improved sight deteriorates;
Thanks in advance for any replies. I'll summarise and post results if there's
enough interest.
- Jonathan Goldstein
--
Jonathan Goldstein goldstej@nms.otc.com.au +61 2 339 3683
| 13sci.med |
In <1r9oqcINNh1c@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu> aduthie@mudskipper.css.itd.umich.edu (Andrew Duthie) writes:
>In article <C5yDqC.6JK@cs.uiuc.edu> scott@cs.uiuc.edu (Jay Scott) writes:
...
>> Is your C610 working just great, or is it buggy too?
>A lot of the time, when you're dealing with someone who has no financial
>interest in selling you the machine, you get a lot of opinion (as opposed
>to factual information, etc.). What it sounds like to me is that this guy
>has had an experience with one flaky Centris 610 and formed an
>all-encompassing opinion on the rest of the 610's. I've seen lots of
Yes, that is what it sounds like to me, too. But before I spend
da bucks, I want to make sure I'm right. I do have e-mail from
a (self-confessed :-) Apple-hater listing a few common problems
with the C610, but nothing I can't get fixed under warranty.
So, anybody else? Great or lousy?
Jay Scott
scott@cs.uiuc.edu
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
EPS _IS_ plain postscript. It is only wrapped by some comments and stripped
of any dubious commands for compatibility. You can simply do
%!
save gsave
/showpage {} def
% Include eps file here
grestore restore
showpage
% end of file
and this way show it on it's natural page position and size.
Programs may use the %%BoundingBox: comment in the EPS file to do
arbitrary scale, rotate and translate to include it in more complicated
ways than above.
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Can someone cite Biblical references to homosexuality being immoral, other
than Leviticus? So far, when I ask, around here, I get the verses from
Leviticus spouted at me, but the whole rest of that book tends to be
ignored by Christians (haven't seen any stonings in a _long_ time :-).
Later,
Max (Bob) Muir
[The list was posted not long ago, as I recall, aside from Lev, commonly
cited passages are:
the story of Sodom. Note however that this was a homosexual rape, and
there's no disagreement that that is wrong. I take an intermediate
position on this: note that Sodom is referred to elsewhere in the
Bible for its sinfulness. It doesn't seem to have been known
specifically for homosexuality. Rather, I think it was considered a
cesspool of all sins. However from what we know of Jewish attitudes,
homosexuality would have contributed to the horror of the action
described. (It almost seems to have been contrived to combine about
as many forms of evil in one act as possible: homosexual rape of
guests, who were actually angels.) But this story is not specifically
about homosexuality.
In the NT, the clear references are all from Paul's letters. In Rom
1, there is a passage that presupposes that homosexuality is an evil.
Note that the passage isn't about homosexuality -- it's about
idolatry. Homosexuality is visited on people as a punishment, or at
least result, of idolatry. There are a number of arguments over this
passage. It does not use the word "homosexuality", and it is referring
to people who are by nature heterosexual practicing homosexuality.
So it's not what I'd call an explicit teaching against all homosexuality.
But it does seem to support what would be a natural assumption anyway,
that Paul shares the general negative Jewish attitude towards
homosexuality.
The other passages occur in lists of sins, in I Cor 6:9, and I Tim
1:10. Unfortunately it's not entirely clear what the words used here
mean. There have been suggestions that one has a broader meaning,
such as "wanton", and that another may be specifically "male
prostitute". Again, we don't have here a precise teaching about
homosexuality, but it is at least weak supportive evidence that Paul
shared the OT's negative judgement on homosexuality.
Jude 1:7 is sometimes cited, however it's probably not relevant. The
context in Jude involves angels. Since those who were almost raped in
Sodom were angels, it seems likely that "strange flesh" refers to
intercourse with angels.
As you can see, the NT evidence is such that people's conclusion is
determined by their approach to the Bible. Conservatives note that
the passages from Paul's letters imply that he accepted the OT
prohibition. This is enough for them to regard it as having NT
endorsement. Liberals note that there's no specific teaching, and no
clear definition of what is being prohibited or why (is the concern in
Rom 1 the connection of homosexuality to pagan worship? what exactly
do the words in the lists of sins mean?). Thus some believe it is
legitimate to regard this as a attitude Paul took with him from his
background and not a specific teaching of the Gospel.
This is an explosive topic, which tends to result in long
dissertations on the exact meaning of various Greek words. But it's
clear to me that that's mostly irrelevant. What it really comes down
to is whether people are looking to the Bible for law or whether they
believe that such as approach is inconsistent with the Gospel. This
appears to depend upon one's reaction to the message of the Bible as a
whole, as well as one's perception of the needs of the church today.
This is a difference of approach at least as serious as the difference
between Protestant and Catholic in the 16th Cent, and one where both
sides believe that the Bible is so obviously on their side that they
keep thinking all they have to do is quote a few more passages and the
other side will finally come to their senses. That makes things
very frustrating for a moderator, who realizes that such an optimistic
outcome is not very likely...
--clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr19.235711.7285@cactus.org> boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle)
writes:
>
>
> My 90 Integra was hit hard in the 3/25 hailstorm in Austin, TX.
> The insurance company cut me a check for $6600 ($100 deductible)
> last week. Is this a record? Anybody else had settlements from
> the same hailstorm yet?
>
> Craig
Rumor has it that a guy at Dell Computer had his Miata totalled, so that would
be about $10k.
--
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John Steczkowski stecz@pencom.com
The Constitution grants you the right to life, liberty, and the
*pursuit* of happiness. It does not attempt to guarantee that
everyone *will* be happy.
| 7rec.autos |
In article <93Apr22.234553edt.47633@neat.cs.toronto.edu>, quoctp@cs.toronto.edu (Quoc Tuan Pham) writes:
> Did anyone notice that Clinton was smiling and making jokes just before
> this press conference? Considering the number of people killed, this
> seems very inappropriate to me.
Why? He, Reno, and the FBI got what they wanted -- a reminder of
who is the boss in America -- the thugs who work for the government.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <C5KH8G.961@cbnewse.cb.att.com> doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.170731.8797@isc-br.isc-br.com> steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
>
>[ These two paragraphs are from two different posts. In splicing them
> together it is not my intention to change Steve's meaning or misrepresent
> him in any way. I don't *think* I've done so. ]
>
>>As noted in another thread (Limiting govt), the problem libertarians face
>>is insuring that the "limited government" they seek does not become the
>>tool of private interests to pursue their own agenda.
>>
>>It is a failure of libertarianism if the ideology does not provide any
>>reasonable way to restrain such actions other than utopian dreams. Just
>>as Marxism "fails" to specify how pure communism is to be achieved and
>>the state is to "wither away," libertarians frequently fail to show how
>>weakening the power of the state will result in improvement in the human
>>condition.
[Patrick's example of anti-competitive regulations for
auto dealers deleted.]
>Here's what I see libertarianism offering you:
>...
>This does not seem to me to be a utopian dream, but basic human decency
>and common sense. A real grass-roots example of freedom and liberty.
>And yes, not having a few people acting as our masters, approving or
>rejecting each of our basic transactions with each other, does strike me
>as a wonderful way to improve the human condition.
>
> Thanks awfully,
> Patrick
Let me try to drag this discussion back to the original issues. As
I've noted before, I'm not necessarily disputing the benefits of
eliminating anti-competitive legislation with regard to auto dealers,
barbers, etc. One need not, however, swallow the entire libertarian
agenda to accomplish this end. Just because one grants the benefits of
allowing anyone who wishes to cut hair to sell his/her services without
regulation does not mean that the same unregulated barbers should be
free to bleed people as a medical service without government intervention.
(As some/many libertarians would argue.)
On a case by case basis, the cost/benefit ratio of government regulation
is obviously worthwhile. The libertarian agenda, however, does not call
for this assessment. It assumes that the costs of regulation (of any
kind) always outweigh its benefits. This approach avoids all sorts of
difficult analysis, but it strikes many of the rest of us as dogmatic,
to say the least.
I have no objection to an analysis of medical care, education,
national defense or local police that suggests a "free market" can provide
a more effective, efficient means of accomplishing social objectives
than is provided through "statist" approaches. With some notable
exceptions, however, I do not see such nitty-gritty, worthwhile
analysis being carried out by self-professed libertarians.
jsh
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <C5LCJn.23H@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
writes:
>>Wasn't that the 'Bonus Rebellion', when tanks were deployed against
>>US Citizens? Grist for those who insist 'It couldn't happen here...'
>
> But also grist for those who think that when such things DO
> happen it means the end of the Republic is imminent. The
> Bonus March was 61 year ago.
By such things, do you mean any use of military forces against US
civilians? Wouldn't Shay's Rebellion, just after the American
Revolution, count as one of the first such instances?
don
| 18talk.politics.misc |
>As a flaming libertarian paranoid extremist (:-), I'at a loss for
>specific objections that don't sound frighteningly technical.
The idea that foisting the Cripple Chip standard on US manufacturers would
result in saying "Sayonara" to yet another high-tech market isn't technical,
isn't in the least difficult to understand, and plays on a concern lots of
people are worried about already....
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1r0b69INN5ct@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> mgregory@flash.pax.tpa.com.au (Martin John Gregory) writes:
>I am having trouble obtaining the specified standby current drain from
>a MC146818A Real Time Clock...
>lowest current drain I can acheive at 3.7V Vcc is 150uA. This is
>three times the specified MAXIMUM...
>1) Made sure that RESET/ is asserted for Trlh after powerup, and AS is
> low during this time.
>2) Made sure that there is a cycle on AS after the negation of RD/ or
> WR/ during which STBY/ was asserted...
Are any of the inputs to the chip coming from TTL? Standby-drain specs
for CMOS chips typically apply only if inputs are pulled all the way down
to zero or all the way up to Vcc. TTL isn't good at doing the former and
it won't do the latter at all without help from pullup resistors. This
sort of thing can easily multiply power consumption by a considerable
factor, because the CMOS transistors that are supposed to be OFF aren't
all the way hard OFF.
--
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- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
| 12sci.electronics |
As quoted from <1993Apr18.000152.2339@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> by jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu:
> The press is against you, the public (the voting public) is against
> you, the flow of history is against you ... this is it !
Kind of sounds like Plessy v. Ferguson, huh? Of course as in that case,
things change, huh?
> Too fucking bad. You have gone the way of the KKK. Violent solutions
> are passe'. Avoid situations which encourage criminals. Then you will
> be as safe as possible. Such as it is ...
>
No, if your little fantasy comes to pass, the country will have gone
TOWARD the KKK. You're of course being a little disengenuous. Violent
solutions are never passe FOR THE GOVERNMENT and CRIMINALS (who frequently)
cannot be distinguished).
"Avoid situations which encourage criminals"? You mean don't be a woman?
Don't be Black? Don't be gay? I'm quite certain that having a surfeit of
unarmed victims will discourage your beloved KKK from engaging in "violent
solutions"....
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fighting to eliminate school prayer from the public schools in
Arkansas" - Holly Silva
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I have a Bronica SQA medium format camera for sale. Includes 2 lenses, 1 film
back, and a view finder. $2.200.00 firm. Contact me via E-mail for info.
---
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Any statements made here are mine alone and not the navy's
....as far as they know
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr21.131908.29582@uhura.neoucom.edu> wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew) writes:
>From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew)
>Subject: Re: How to the disks copy protected.
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1993 13:19:08 GMT
>Write a good manual to go with the software. The hassle of
>photocopying the manual is offset by simplicity of purchasing
>the package for only $15. Also, consider offering an inexpensive
>but attractive perc for registered users. For instance, a coffee
>mug. You could produce and mail the incentive for a couple of
>dollars, so consider pricing the product at $17.95.
Or, _documentation_ for the program ;-). A lot of shareware out there is
very similar in the approach - send in your money, and you get
documentation, and a free upgrade to the latest version. Perhaps even
support of some small degree. Whatever you want to offer that is "better"
than the circulating version.
>You're lucky if only 20% of the instances of your program in use
>are non-licensed users.
Figure about 50%, as I have seen.
>The best approach is to estimate your loss and accomodate that into
>your price structure. Sure it hurts legitimate users, but too bad.
It doesn't really hurt legit users. Shareware is still much cheaper than
the alternatives.
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <C5ro4H.Lww@world.std.com> jle@world.std.com (Joe M Leonard) writes:
>I always thought that a reasonable means of measuring value between
>players was to attempt to determine if a team would trade one for
>another.
The major problem with this analysis is that it ignores age. Even if
Morris were performing as well as Clemens right now, and were likely to
this season, nobody would trade Clemens for Morris straight up because
Clemens has more of his career left.
Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
*** On 04-21-93 04:30, Michael Shapiro had the unmitigated gall to say this:
MS> The DOS system date has a twenty-four hour clock and a rollover bit.
MS> When the system crosses midnight, the rollover bit is turned on.
MS> Subsequent reads of the time add one. There's no change possible
MS> (This information was current up through DOS 3.3. I've not checked to
MS> see whether it applies to later versions.)
Just a small tidbit: with the advent of DOS 3.3 and later versions, MS added
a small "feature" to the DOS time function. If a program sets the DOS clock
via DOS system services, then DOS will set the BIOS clock to the same value.
This breaks the isolation between the two clocks that used to ensure that
errors in the DOS clock did not bleed over into the BIOS clock.
Sometimes the Microsoft people just don't think! :)
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In article <dubin.735083450@spot.Colorado.EDU> dubin@spot.colorado.edu writes:
>
>I recall that the issue is that fat on the meat liquifies and then
>drips down onto the hot elements--whatever they are--that the extreme
>heat then catalyzes something in the fat into one or more
>carcinogens which then are carried back up onto the meat in the smoke.
>
Hmmm. Care to be more vague?
=======================================
Howard Doyle
doyle+@pitt.edu
| 13sci.med |
bmich@cs.utexas.edu (Brian Keith Michalk) writes:
> A few weeks ago I found out about some of the politics that
> is going on with the Texas bullet train, and was appalled at some
> of the apparent underhanded tactics to push this thing through
> without any public say whatsoever. So, I wrote up a short
> editorial thing and posted it, hoping to get some discussion.
>
> I suppose editorials don't do it here. So now I am asking for
> the general opinion of the net about the proposed high speed
> train.
>
> What do you think? I personally think it is a stupid idea, and
> that there are a few people somewhere who are going to get very
> rich from this deal.
>
My opinion is this: In a society whose economy is primarily based on
capitalism, the role of government should be to provide those goods and
services that need providing for the general public's good. BUT government
should supply those necessary goods and services only when it is impossible
for a private enterprise (or individual) to make money from providing them.
I agree with some of the other posts that this train probably can not make
money and will rely heavily on State tax dollars.
The question, I think, then becomes: Do we, the general public, need the train?
I certainly do not, nor will I ever, need this train in Lubbock, Texas. With
the inexpensive air travel provided between Dallas and Houston, I don't think
people in Dallas or Houston need it either.
David McGaughey
Texas Tech University
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I've also found that the electronic starters on these "instant-on"
compact fluourescent lamp fixtures kick out interference that nukes
my cordless phone. (I can hear it in my guitar amplifier, too...)
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993May12.111030@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>In article <C6x81M.EJF@news.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya
>Prabhakar) writes:
>> (mohamed.s.sadek) writes:
>> >
>> >I like what Mr. Joseph Biden had to say yesterday 5/11/93 in the senate.
>> >
>> >Condemening the european lack of action and lack of support to us plans
>> >and calling that "moral rape".
>> >
>> >He went on to say that the reason for that is "out right religious BIGOTRY"
>>
>> Actually, this strife in Yugoslavia goes back a long way. Bosinan Muslims,
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> in collaboration with the Nazis, did to Serbians after the first world
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> war what Serbs are doing to Muslims now. This is not a fresh case of
>> ethnic cleansing but just another chapter in the continuing saga
>> of intense mutual hatred, destruction,... Not taking sides in this
>> perpetual war does not amount to religious bigotry. It could just
>> be helplessness with regards to bringing peace to a region that does
>> not even know the meaning of the word.
>>
>
>I dont think you're correct here. There have been no reports of the Bosnians
>Muslims supporting the Nazis in their genocide against the Serbians. The fact is
>that the Croat govt. using their secret police (called the Ustache, I think)
>were the prime agents of the Nazis in Yugoslavia against the Serbs.
13th SS Divison, made primerily of Bosnian Muslim _volunteers_, did quite
a job in the former Yugoslavia during WWII. These folks are now in
their 60's-70's. Makes me wonder how many of them occupy positions
of power in Bosnia's goverment.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
I've noticed that is has become fashionable lately in rsb to predict
the Marlines to finish ahead of the Cubs....how?
First Base:
Grace vs Destrade...Could Destrade be the second coming of Cecil
Fielder? I doubt it. If Destrade performs to the height of expectations,
then even, otherwise, edge to Cubs
Second Base:
Sandberg vs Barberie...No contest. Sandberg will be back May 1. Edge
to Cubs...a big edge.
Shortstop:
Vizcaino vs Weiss...Vizcaino is excellent defensively, but is an
automatic out at bat. Weiss isn't much better with the stick. Even.
Third Base:
Dave Magadan vs Buechelle...Magadan has a higher OBP and is a better hitter.
Buechelle has more power and is better defensively (I think) Edge to
Florida.
Catcher:
Santiago vs Wilkins...Wilkins is OK, but Santiago is better. Edge to
Marlins
Left Field:
Conine vs Maldonado...Wow! 4 for 4 yesterday...I know Conine has potential.
I watched him play at Omaha the last couple years. Until he actually proves
himself, I give Maldonado the edge, however, like at 1B, this is position
where Florida might be even or better *if* the player there has a huge year.
Center:
Scott Pose vs Wilson/May...Edge to May, even if Wilson. Hopefully the
Cubs will use may and save Wilson for pinch running and the like. May
isn't Ken Griffey Jr, but he will hit .275 with 15 homers if he plays
full time.
Right:
Felix vs Sosa...Felix Jose has occasional power and a bad OBP. So does
Sosa, but Sosa also has speed and a good glove. Edge to Cubs
Starters:
Aquino? Armstrong? Hammond? A lot of fifth starters here. The Cubs won't
remind anyone of the Brave staff, but Morgan-Castillo-Guzman-Hibbard
is average to OK...better than the Marline. Edge to Cubs
Middle Relief:
Even. The Cubs have some decent middlemen, and so do the Marlins.
Carpenter anf Klink or decent, but so are Assenmacher and McElroy.
Closer:
A healthy Harvey is a big edge to the Marlins. Meyers is decent, but
no Harvey. Of course, the Cubs may have a few more games to save.
Look for 30 saves, 5 blown from Meyers, and 25 saves, 3 blown (with
a better ERA) for Harvey. Edge Florida.
Overall, an edge to Chicago.
Neither of these teams will threaten to win anything, of course.
e
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In some sense, I think that the folks who think the idea is wonderful, and the
folks who want to boycott anyone who has anything to do with this project are
both right.
That is, I think that space advertising is an interesting idea, and if someone
wants to try it out, more power to them. However, a company may discover that
the cost of launch is not the only cost of advertising, and a company who
gauged that ill will would lose them more revenue than the advertising would
gain might decide to bow out of the project.
I got incensed when I read that Carl Sagan called this idea an "abomination."
I don't think that word means what he thinks it does. Children starving in the
richest country in the world is an abomination; an ad agency is at worst just
in poor taste.
Tom Courtney
| 14sci.space |
-*-----
In article <735157066.AA00449@calcom.socal.com> Daniel.Prince@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Daniel Prince) writes:
> Is there an effect where the doctor believes so strongly in a
> medicine that he/she sees improvement where the is none or sees
> more improvement than there is? If so, what is this effect
> called? Is there a reverse of the above effect where the doctor
> doesn't believe in a medicine and then sees less improvement than
> there is? What would this effect be called? Have these effects
> ever been studied? How common are these effects? Thank you in
> advance for all replies.
These effects are a very real concern in conducting studies of new
treatments. Researchers try to limit this kind of effect by
performing studies that are "blind" in various ways. Some of these
are:
o The subjects of the study do not know whether they receive a
placebo or the test treatment, i.e., whether they are in the
control group or the test group.
o Those administering the treatment do not know which subjects
receive a placebo or the test treatment.
o Those evaluating individual results do not know which subjects
receive a placebo or the test treatment.
Obviously, at the point at which the data is analyzed, one has to
differentiate the test group from the control group. But the analysis
is quasi-public: the researcher describes it and presents the data on
which it is based so that others can verify it.
It is worth noting that in biological studies where the subjects are
animals, such as mice, there were many cases of skewed results because
those who performed the study did not "blind" themselves. It is not
considered so important to make mice more ignorant than they already
are, though it is important that in all respects except the one tested,
the control and test groups are treated alike.
Russell
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr17.134725.15882@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> avinash@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Avinash Chopde) writes:
>I just installed a new TrueType font under MS-Windows 3.1
>but though all the applications display the font correctly on the
>screen, quite a few of them fail to print out the document correctly
>(on a LaserJet 4 - non-PostScript printer).
...
>But when I use the Windows accessory Write, the printer prints square
>boxes in place of the characters of the new font. Yet, Write does
>display the font correctly on the screen.
This is a common problem with highly complex TrueType fonts. Microsoft
admits to a problem with older versions of the PostScript printer driver,
but I've found it to be pretty generic.
You can get around the problem by adjusting the parameter OutlineThreshold
in the [TrueType] section of WIN.INI. This entry specifies the number of
pels-per-em at which Windows will render TrueType fonts as outline fonts
instead of as bitmap fonts. The default is 256. I've generally been able
to get fonts to work by setting OutlineThreshold=160. Depending on your
printer resolution and the point size you are using, you may need a
different value.
The Windows Resource Kit warns against going above 300. Presumably, that
might cause fonts to print as square boxes or something. :-| (I'm not
smiling.)
--
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AT&T Bell Laboratories
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
> Can some people with cache cards PLEASE post speedometer numbers they
> get with the cards. I have only one report, which seems to indicate
> that a 32K cache card gives you only about a 1% speedup!!
Ok. I have a record that shows a IIsi with and without a 64KB cache.
It's small enough that I will attach it.
I have also measured some real programs with and without the 64 KB
cache. The speedup varies a lot from app to app, ranging from 0% to
40%. I think an average of 20%-25% is about right. The subjective
difference is not great, but is sometimes noticable. A simple cache
card certainly does not transform a IIsi into something enormously
better. I do not have an FPU.
The conventional wisdom says that cache cards from all of the makers
offer about the same speedup and that there is not much difference
between 32K and 64K caches. I bought mine from Third Wave for well
under $150. I have had absolutely no problems at all with it.
If you get *complete* speedometer runs for a 32K cache, I'd like to
see them. Let's check the conventional wisdom! The so called
"Performance Rating" numbers by themselves are of no interest.
Cheers.
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
rousseaua@immunex.com writes about heat shock proteins (HSP's) and DNA.
I hate to be derogatory, but in this case I think it's warranted.
HSP's are part of the cellular response to stress. The only reason they
are called 'heat shock proteins' is because they were first demonstrated
using heat shock. Dead tissue (ie. meat) is not going to produce ANY
protein- because it's DEAD!
Also, who cares if the DNA you are ingesting is mutated!? It will be
completely digested in your stomach, which is about pH 2.
Some of you worry WAY too much. Eat a healthy, balanced diet and relax.
My advice is, if you don't know what you are talking about, it is better
to keep your mouth shut than to open it and remove all doubt about your
ignorance. Don't speculate, or at least get some concrete information
before you do!
Sherry Olmstead
Biochemist
SHERRY OLMSTEAD Title: Lab Technician
Forestry Canada Phone: (604) 363-0600
Victoria, B.C. Internet: SOLMSTEAD@A1.PFC.Forestry.CA
| 13sci.med |
frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
> (b) I am neither a Christian nor a theist, but I believe in objective
> morality in preference to a relativist soup of gobbledegook.
Well, there are two approaches we can take here. One is to ask you what this
objective morality is, assuming it's not a secret.
The other is to ask you what you think is wrong with relativism, so that we
can correct your misconceptions :-)
mathew
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr6.044045.5215@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>,
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) wrote:
>
> In <rauser.734062534@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>
>>pereira@CAM.ORG (Dean Pereira) writes:
>
>
>>> With the kind of team Montreal has now, they can take the
>>>cup easily. The only problem they have right now is that everyone is
>>>trying to steal the show and play alone. They need some massive teamwork.
>
>This is known as the Savard syndrome - and we are talking Denis, not Serge.
>No team will ever win squat with the likes of Denis Savard in their lineup.
>
>
>They could tell Savard to stay home and watch the games on TV.
If life were so simple! Savard has not played in three of the last
four games and they are still playing like crap. Montreal's problems
run deeper than Savard (and Mouton) unfortunately; I hope they can
get their act together before the playoffs.
The line-up in their game coming up against PittsburgH is said to be
the one they're likely to use for the playoffs. Let's hope they can
forget about the nice weather we're having and play hockey.
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| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <summeral.733798199@rintintin.Colorado.EDU> summeral@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Summerall Thomas G) writes:
>Is it me, my 650, or all 650s? It doesn't seem to broken. It isn't making
>grinding noises or anything, it's just LOUD! Much louder that the fan in
>the IIci I just sold.
>
>Anybody else have this problem? How about a solution? Is there a good
>replacement fan that's a lot quieter but moves the same air? Any easy
>way to insulate the sound but not the cooling air? (Hah!)
I can't even hear the fan on my 650.....gee I wonder if its working.....yup,
just checked, its exhausting air out the back just fine.
Gary
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1ppg8b$fvq@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>joes@telxon.mis.telxon.com (Joe Staudt) writes:
>>In article <1phoi3$s95@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
>>writes:
>>[stuff deleted...]
>>>
>>>The silly thing about this whole argument is that most of the trunk
>>>releases (I'm tempted to say all, but there's bound to be a
>>>counterexample) only operate if the car is on (ACC or running). Thus
>>>you can't easily pop the trunk without starting the car.
>
>>"Most" cars? The only cars I've ever seen with this "feature" have been
>>GM cars. My `88 Mazda, '80 Honda, and (coming soon) '93 Probe all have
>>cable-operated releases [...]. My '84
>>Camaro had an electric hatch release that was (thankfully) independent of
>>the key in the ignition (the exception to the rule mentioned in my first
>>sentence).
>
>I should probably have said "glovebox trunk releases." I haven't
>encountered any glovebox releases that are cable operated. Numerous
>GM and several Ford/Mercury cars that I've encountered have electrical
>releases in the glovebox, and all of the ones I've seen needed the
>ignition on to some degree to operate. Your Camaro example is noted,
>but since it's a hardtop it's not a big deal. I've never run into a
>convertible with a cable-operated trunk release -- I'd agree 100% that
>in such an environment a cable or always-active electrical release
>would be rather stupid.
>
>jim frost
>jimf@centerline.com
My Honda has a cable release that can be locked out with the ignition key.
The valet key can be left with someone and will NOT unlock the trunk
or enable the cable release.
I remember my mothers '86 Corvette that had an electronic hatch release
located on the drivers door, which was ALWAYS active. The fact that the
car had no real trunk makes the security measure of beign able to
dis-able the hatch release unnecessary.
| 7rec.autos |
% mail newsserv@kiae.su
Subject: PLEASE, HELP!!!
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen!
We should be grateful for any information about address and (or)
E-mail address of Loma-Linda Hospital (approximate position: USA,
California, near Vaimor town, 60 miles from Los-Angelos).
A patient needs consultation in this clinics before operation.
With respect, Igor V. Sidelnikov
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| 13sci.med |
|>
|> So, Take you own advice and wuit you whining about
|> flames.
|>
No brains and he can't spell either.
.edu?? I hope you're not a student at Duke...
you would be wasting your tuition.
===================================================
= The Beav |Mike Beavington| Dod:9733 =
= V65Sabre mbeaving@bnr.ca =
= My employer has no idea what I'm talking about! =
===================================================
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <C518wo.KFy@news2.cis.umn.edu> kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu (Dave 'Almost Cursed the Jays' Kirsch) writes:
> That brings up an interesting point. Anyone else catch ESPN's piece about
>prospects and the relationship between age, career length, MVPs and Hall of
>Fame members? It was part of their preseason special.
Wow. ESPN can repeat eleven-year-old Bill James research. (Literally.
Check the 1982 Abstract.)
> It was the most impressive thing I've seen on ESPN in recent memory.
Perhaps in 2004 they'll be as reliable as an average SDCN.
> I guess Ray Knight makes his rebuttal tonight.
Oops, maybe not.
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thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | his advice is legally sound, if you follow it
the u of c law school | you will probably wind up in jail."
standard disclaimers | -- James Donald, in misc.legal
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
I have the following items for sale.
Rabbit PIP tuner
SoloFlex-like gym
Scanner (800 Mhz)
CB Antenna
Blazer/Jimmy running boards
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Rabbit PIP (picture-in-picture) Box.
This device when used with a VCR tuner will allow you to
have a second channel popped up on any corner of the screen.
The you can press SWAP on the remote and the small picture
will be swapped with the main picture.
The only limitation to this box is that it is has 36 channel
tuner. This means that the box itself cannot tune higher
than cable channel 36. However, if your VCR tuner is capable
of tuning higher than this, then you simply tune the VCR to the
channel desired and then swap pictures (assuming the alternate
picture is channel 36 or lower) and it will work fine.
Original cost: $149
Will sell for: $75
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Running boards for Jimmy or Blazer
Brand new black running boards for the S10/15 models. I purchased them
and realized that I could not use (after return period expired) them
because of wheel trim that I have installed on my vehicle.
Original cost: $125
Will sell for: $ 65
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Regency MX4200 20-Channel Scanner
Recieves cellular frequencies (800-950 mhz) along
with 7 other bands. Brand new Ni-Cad battery pack.
Original Cost: $249
Will sell for: $135
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GYN/Plex model 2000 workout Gym, similar to Solo-Flex
This gym is similar to Solo-Flex in that it uses resistance
bands to increase the effective lifting weight. It is all black
and made of steel. I have an extra set of bands that I purchased
that will be included.
Original cost: $349
Will sell for: $125
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Big Stick CB Antenna for 27 Mhz band.
Will sell for: $30
Because of weight or or other difficulty, last 2 items
for Atlanta area only please.
I will share non-COD shipping charges.
Thanks
Manny
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| 6misc.forsale |
Like many others I too was watching the Caps/Isles game when the went
to the baseball game. I too was pissed. How could they interupt such
an important game. I understand about contracts, but you would think they
would have a clause in the contract concerning important games!
Anyway, us BLUES (and Hawks) fans got shafted worse! While everyone
in the U.S. and watched the game on ABC. However those of us who live in
the central Illinois area were subjected to watching the Arthritus(?)
Telethon. The area that was most affected by the telecast did not get
to see the game except through HAWK VISION. This game, had it been
televised, would have been the first home Hawks game shown in the area
since 1980. This television BULL*&%$ has got to stop. We are not only
being deprived of seeing games, due to skyrocketing ticket prices, but
we are also being deprived of watching them on TV.
PEACE,
HAMMER
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>>The motto originated in the Star-Spangled Banner. Tell me that this has
>>something to do with atheists.
>The motto _on_coins_ originated as a McCarthyite smear which equated atheism
>with Communism and called both unamerican.
No it didn't. The motto has been on various coins since the Civil War.
It was just required to be on *all* currency in the 50's.
keith
| 0alt.atheism |
Can anyone point me to a cross compiler and/or assembler for the Motorola
68008, hosted by a PC compatible. Preferable Free or Shareware.
Also does anyone know of a GNU CC port to this chip.
Thanks in advance.
| 12sci.electronics |
89' Toyota Camry LE 4 dr sedan
AC AT power windows and locks
53k miles, asking $9000.
Pls call 510-526-8248 or send e-mail to this account.
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1993Apr17.212119.13901@coe.montana.edu> warped@cs.montana.edu
(Doug Dolven) writes:
>
> Has anyone heard anything about Mel Hall this season? I'd heard he
wasn't
> with the Yankees any more. What happened to him?
>
He is in Japan playing baseball.
--
Tom Gwitt gwittt@alleg.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1r74a4$h2t@transfer.stratus.com> cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) writes:
>
>I've been reading the sci.crypt, alt.privacy.clipper and comp.org.eff.talk
>discussions about the Clipper chip and find (as usual) that most of us
>think alike -- so there's a lot of repitition. If each of these messages
>were sent to Clinton as well as to the net (or instead of to the net), we
>might actually have some effect.
>
> 0005895485@MCIMAIL.COM (White House)
Is this "White House e-mail address" really working yet? Someone
posted such an address on CompuServe a few months ago, but apparently
the White House wasn't really set up to recive hundreds (thousands?)
of messages a day to that account and didn't want people to use it
yet. So is this MCI address something the people at the White House
actually read, or is it another Craig Shergold story? I don't know --
I'm just asking.
Unless the people at the White House print and distribute this mail
every day, you may have better luck printing out a letter (on paper,
that flat white stuff all over my desk) and Snail-Mailing it to the
White House. I imagine writing to your local representative and
senator wouldn't hurt either. Heck, why not write to Al Gore while
you're at it?
greg
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| 11sci.crypt |
Frank Hielscher (hielsche@aragorn.CSEE.Lehigh.Edu) wrote:
: The PADS*.ZIP files contain subdirectories, and have to be unzipped
: via "pkunzip -d". Then an xcopy /s to three floppies creates the disks
: needed to do the install.
I'm still not sure how this is supposed to work, since the .ZIP files
took up about 2.5Mb, so it must be a tight squeeze on those floppies...
However, I managed to install PADS and I'm pretty impressed. I created
a couple of schematics without problem, but whenever I try to
create a PCB layout from one of *my* circuits (rather than the demos)
it doesn't work. I'm wondering if maybe a file isn't where it should
be...
Can anyone who has a printed manual comment on whether the registration
fee is worth paying?
Chris
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <Apr.10.05.33.59.1993.14428@athos.rutgers.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
>The two historic facts that I think the most important are these:
>
>(1) If Jesus didn't rise from the dead, then he must have done something
>else equally impressive, in order to create the observed amount of impact.
>
>(2) Nobody ever displayed the dead body of Jesus, even though both the
>Jewish and the Roman authorities would have gained a lot by doing so
>(it would have discredited the Christians).
>
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And the two simplest refutations are these:
(1) What impact? The only record of impact comes from the New Testament.
I have no guarantee that its books are in the least accurate, and that
the recorded "impact" actually happened. I find it interesting that no other
contemporary source records an eclipse, an earthquake, a temple curtain
being torn, etc. The earliest written claim we have of Jesus' resurrection
is from the Pauline epistles, none of which were written sooner than 20 years
after the supposed event.
(2) It seems probable that no one displayed the body of Jesus because no
one knew where it was. I personally believe that the most likely
explanation was that the body was stolen (by disciples, or by graverobbers).
Don't bother with the point about the guards ... it only appears in one
gospel, and seems like exactly the sort of thing early Christians might make
up in order to counter the grave-robbing charge. The New Testament does
record that Jews believed the body had been stolen. If there were really
guards, they could not have effectively made this claim, as they did.
-Scott O.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr19.213015@IASTATE.EDU>, njdevils@IASTATE.EDU (Cire Y. Trehguad) writes:
|> Anna Matyas (am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
|> : Michael Collingridge writes:
|> : >And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,
|> : >resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other
|> : >team captain trivia would be appreciated.
|> ;
|> : Wasn't Ron Francis captain of the Whalers when he was traded to
|> : Pittsburgh?
|>
|> And Rick Tochett was the captain of the Flyers when traded to the Pens
|> recently...
|>
And of course, Mike Ramsey was (at one time) the captain in Buffalo prior to
being traded to Pittsburgh. Currently, the Penguins have 3 former captains
and 1 real captain (Lemieux) playing for them. They rotate the A's during the
season (and even the C while Mario was out). Even Troy Loney has worn the C
for the Pens.
-Jay
John W. Huber, Jr. - aka Jay | Penguins - 1991,1992 Stanley Cup Champions
Software Engineering Institute | Pirates - 1990,1991,1992 NL East Champions
SEI 3409 (412) 268-3550 | MasterCraft - The ONLY boat for skiing
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Shouldn't the bulk of this thread be removed from talk.abortion?
Followups to t.r.m only.
In article <C5wJEs.2Du@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com> max@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com (Max Webb) writes:
>I perceive, therefore perception is. (The only conclusion Descarte should
>have dared to draw)
You're being a bit hard on the bloke
The first word in your "I perceive..." statement shows why Descartes was in fact
correct.
Nonetheless, yours does come a close second.
>As for the prudence of looking for patterns and testing them, these
>assumptions are universal in the everyday behavior of humans, and need
>not be proven - they are pragmatic assumptions necessary for living.
~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
They are?
Can you...ahem...prove that?
t
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <May.7.01.08.16.1993.14381@athos.rutgers.edu>, whitsebd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Bryan Whitsell) writes:
|> Any one who thinks that Homosexuality and Christianity are compatible should check
|> out:
|> Romans 1:27
|> I Corinthians 6:9
|> I Timothy 1:10
|> Jude 1:7
|> II Peter 2:6-9
|> Gen. 19
|> Lev 18:22
|> (to name a few of the verses that pertain to homosexuality)
Anyone who thinks being gay and Christianity are not compatible should
check out Dignity, Integrity, More Light Presbyterian churches, Affirmation,
MCC churches, etc. Meet some gay Christians, find out who they are, pray
with them, discuss scripture with them, and only *then* form your opinion.
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr16.010235.14225@mtu.edu> cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter) writes:
>You didn't even get the capitalization correct! Try reading USCA on
>the Constitution, or get any other CORRECT version of the
>Constitution.
This is REALLY STUPID nitpicking. Capitalization rules in the late 18th
century were quite different from today, and what was posted matches current
capitalization rules.
We also don't make 's' look like 'f' and other such things done in the late
seventeen hundreds.
In the original Constitution, "militia", "arms", etc. were capitalized simply
because they were nouns. This is also done currently in German. There is
no special significance to these words simply because they are capitalized.
The capitalization denotes no special emphasis.
-Pete Zakel
(phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)
ARIES (Mar 21 - Apr 19)
You are the pioneer type and hold most people in contempt. You are
quick tempered, impatient, and scornful of advice. You are not very
nice.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1sueslINNa6g@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>,
jovanovic-nick@yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:
> "Muslim" in ex-Yugoslavia was a *nation* not a religion. In fact, not
> all Muslims in B-H are followers of Islam. Therefore, there do (did?)
> exist in ex-Yugoslavia "Christian Muslims."
Yeah! That's it! :) You've really outdone yourself this time Nick...
Don't forget the "Davidian Muslims"... :)
Islam is not a race. It's a religion. You can be white, black,
Fijian or Alaskan. I guess you didn't absorb too much of the Malcolm
X interest circulating. You see, the whole point of Islam is that it
stresses equality amongst all peoples. Now, I do realize this is
difficult for you to comprehend given your staunch beliefs in Serbian
ethnic cleansing, but give it a try, it's really not that difficult.
> The war is not a religious war, and it is not an ethnic war.
That's right, it's a Disneyland war -- all a setup for the TV cameras.
There are also people who believe man never landed on the moon, that
the whole Apollo story was done in TV studios...
> It is a
> civil war in which the terms of secession are being negotiated with guns
> instead of pens. The Croat, Muslim, and Serb political leaders *all*
> chose to fight over the terms of secession instead of compromising and
> peacefully negotiating multilateral secession agreements.
Terms of secession? You are, of course, joking, right Nick? Nobody
*chose* to fight. Bosnia and Croatia were *internationally*
recognized nations when the Serbs attacked and started on their
well-documented genocide. That makes them an outside aggressor. It's
a simple genocide, a classical example of ethnic cleansing. There is
no question of civil war...
-- Shakil
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <C63AEC.FB3@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
>The "R Us" thing is trademarked. I don't know if Charles
>Lazarus is dead or alive, but I'd be careful, because with
>a name like Lazarus, he might rise again just to start a
>lawsuit.
The "R Us" is not trademarked, but the "Backwards R Us" is, I
believe.
---
Speaking of proofs of God, the funniest one I have ever seen was in a
term paper handed in by a freshman. She wrote, "God must exist, because
he wouldn't be so mean as to make me believe he exists if he really
doesn't!" Is this argument really so much worse than the ontological
proofs of the existence of God provided by Anselm and Descartes, among
others?
Raymond Smullyan
[From "5,000 B.C. and Other Philosophical Fantasies".]
| 0alt.atheism |
Dear Xperts,
I've trawled through the cc and ld man pages for an explanation on apparentlly
frequently used compiler options with X programs (Ultrix V4.3/DEC 5000). However
,
the criptic information I found largely overestimates my brain potential and up
till now I haven't got the slightest idea what the following options are standin
g
for and when to use them (I gathered them from different X programs):
1) -Wc,-Nd4000 -Wc,-Ns4000 -Wc,-Nt50000 -Wf,-XNg1000
2) -Nf,-XNh2000 -Olimit 2000
3) Also, has anybody the foggiest idea what the following link error mea
ns
and what corrective action should be taken? I know of bss as the area
in
UNIX for uninitialized data, but I'm completely unaware of the gp are
a.
"colormapInds: a large common placed in gp area because of a small undefined
reference (possible gp relocation errors may result)
pixelMap: a large common placed in gp area because of a small undefined
reference (possible gp relocation errors may result)
ld:
gp relocation out-of-range errors have occured and bad object file produced
(corrective action must be taken)
gp relocation out-of-range for small data or bss by,
221181 in the positive direction,
0 in the negative direction.
Best -G num value to compile all -count'ed objects creating nmr with is 13
Best -G num value calculation reliable only if all -count'ed objects were
compiled with -G num greater or equal to maximum size of a literal pool
item (8).
*** Error code 1"
4) Finally, is the options syntax consistent across different vendor's
compilers. If not, does imake offers a standard machine independent approach to
it?
I do realize that an explanation will involve some compiler and OS knowledge but
I pretty know some basics and help of any nature will be greatly appreciated.
---
Phil
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C5xpzK.F46@imag.fr> Ibaa Oueichek, oueichek@imag.fr writes:
> I have an Ethernet card that i took out off an old LC. The card
> is manufactured by Asante. On it i can read:
> "Asante Tech, inc. Copyright 1991. MACCON + LC REV.B".
> The card has an fpu socket on it. It provides thin Ethernet connector
> and there's another connector on it which resembels to phone connectors.
>
> My questions are:
> - Will this card work on any other model than LC-serie ?, given that
> it's a PDS card, will it work with the IIsi PDS slot ?. I think there
> may be a probleme because the LC has 16 bit wide slots.
It probably won't work with any other LC. The ones I have for the LC II
are Rev. D. No, it won't work in the IIsi's PDS slot since it's a 68030
PDS, while the LC has the 68020 PDS. The IIsi and SE/30 share the same
kind of card.
>
> - What's that other conncetor on the card ?.
That's the 10BaseT ethernet connector.
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Network Manager | laughter until you break. These days you
UCLA Physiological Science | might feel a shaft of light make its way
cjones@physci.ucla.edu | across your face. And when you do you'll
(310) 825-6528 voice __ | know how it was meant to be. See the signs
(310) 206-9184 fax \/ | and know their meaning. -- 10,000 Maniacs
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
OK Phil, you're right. So far the "evidence" suggests that Nixon was a victim
of overzealous underlings and Kennedy was a womanizing disgust-o-blob with
a dash of megalomania. After crushing the CIA and FBI who's to say Kennedy
wouldn't have created his own version of American Friendly Fascism?
Unfortunately however, we don't have all the evidence. So far this nation's
citizens have been privy to about 12 hours of the total 4,000 hours of Nixon's
tapes. What's on the rest of those babies? Some archivists have alluded that
there is "evidence" to suggest that Nixon and his cronies, including George
Bush, were aware of the plot to murder Kennedy before he was shot in Dallas.
Ask your local D.A. what the charges are for the above crime.
And so I must ask you, Phil me putz, when all this shit finally comes out
when you and I are old men, I would appreciate the privilege of sticking a pole
up your ass and parading you down Main Street with a sign on your chest:
"I was an Apologist for the American Fascist Regime circa 1944 -- 2010"
(How's that for a lovely Brecht-ian image:-)
There, that ought to get a reaction. Unless I'm in his killfile this week...
MPA
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <C5yxLE.4ov@cbfsb.cb.att.com> enis@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (enis.surensoy) writes:
>>From article <9304202021@zuma.UUCP>, by sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic):
>>Armenians will not get away with the genocide of 204,000 Azeri people.
> On the contrary, Armenians will get away with the genocide of
> 204,000 Azeri people.
> Armenians already got away with raping, torturing, and massacering
> millions of innocent Moslem peoples of Eastern Anatolia.
Not this time, Enis. Furthermore, a new generation has risen - equipped
with a deep sense of commitment, politically mature and conscious, who
determinedly pursue the Turkish Cause, through all necessary means,
ranging from the political and diplomatic to the armed struggle. In
other words, what we have is a demand from the fascist government of
x-Soviet Armenia to redress the wrongs that were done against our
people.
"The crime of systematic cleansing by mass killing and extermination
of the Muslim population in the Soviet Republic of Armenia, Karabag,
Bosnia and Herzegovina is an 'Islamic Holocaust' comparable to the
extermination of 2.5 million Muslims by the Armenian Government
during the WWI and of over 6 million European Jews during the WWII."
(Tovfik Kasimov - Azeri Leader - September 25, 1992)
"Today's ethnic cleansing policies by the Serbian dictatorship against
Croatians and Muslims of Yugoslavia, as well as the Soviet Republic
of Armenia's against the Muslim population of neighboring Azerbaijan,
are really no different in their aspirations than the genocide
perpetrated by the Armenian Government 78 years ago against the
Turkish and Kurdish Muslims and Sephardic Jews living in these
lands." (Cebbar Leygara - Kurdish Leader - October 13, 1992)
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Hello Everyone,
I have a Casio TV-470 LCD Color Television for sale. It
is in mint condition. Retail is $199 but I'm looking to
get about 1/2 of that for it, tops. Highest bidder in
a week gets it, assuming the highest bidder is at least $60.
TV comes with black case and uses 4 AA batteries. They also
sell AC adaptor. It has external jack for phones and external
antenna, etc. The picture is very good and it has electronic
tuning so you don't have to screw with tuning a picture in, etc.
I have the box and all documentation. This has seen less than
3 hours use as I have all but sworn off TV.
Best Regards
Jack Waters II
| 6misc.forsale |
Home speakers:
o NHT (Now Hear This Inc.) Model II floor tower speaker system.
The Model II is a pair of 3 way design with a 3/4" tweeter,
6.5" mid-range, and two 6.5" woofer for low bass.
Impedance is 8 ohms (minimum 4 ohms), the cross-over
points are 100Hz and 3.2 KHz. Frequency response is rated
at 40Hz to 22KHz +/- 3db. Rated efficiency is 87db.
Power rating is between 35 to 200 watts per channel.
Black finish. Magnetic shielded perfect for surround sound
front speakers or HiFi audio speakers.
retail $850.00 at Macys, asking $500 obo, a year old,
rarely used, excellent just like new condition.
o Bose 301 book shelf speakers, black, perfect condition, like new,
Paid $350.00, asking $220.00 firm
o B&O (Bang & Olufsen) Beovox CX100 Satellite speakers, white.
Brand new in box, paid $450.00.
$350.00 obo
o Yamaha center center
paid $125, asking $80.00 firm, just like new
o Yamaha rear channel speakers for Doby Surround Sound
paid $150, asking $99.00, just like new
Car speakers:
o Boston Acoustic 861 seperates (car audio speakers), 6" woofers
with seperate tweeters and crossovers.
Brand new in box, never been installed, $259.00 at Good Guys
Asking $199.00 firm
o 2 8" MTX free air woofers, new in box, never been installed.
Paid $49.00 each at Good Guys
Asking $70.00 firm
| 6misc.forsale |
Issue 5 of the X Resource (the published proceedings of the 7th Annual X
Technical Conference) has an paper by Mark Linton and Chuck Price
titled "Building Distributed interfaces with Fresco".
The summary describes Fresco (formerly known as XC++) as an X consortium effort.
Without doing a complete review of the paper, I'll just mention the goals
as stated in one section of the article. the effort has the goal of providing
the next generation toolkit with functionality beyond the Xt toolkit or Xlib.
Features they want in FRESCO include:
lightweight Objects, such as Interviews Glyphs
Structured Graphics
Resolution independence
Natural C++ programming interface
edit-in-place embedding
distributed user interface components
Multithreading
This by no means captures the complete content of the paper. The Conclusions
sections mentions that a rough draft specification should be available in
early 93, with no schedule (paper presented in Jan 93) for a complete sample
implementation.
I am not affiliated with any of the people or places mentioned above.
--
Brian Dealy |301-572-8267| It not knowing where it's at
dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing
!uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy | | where it's not at... B.Dylan
--
Brian Dealy |301-572-8267| It not knowing where it's at
dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing
!uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy | | where it's not at... B.Dylan
| 5comp.windows.x |
OK, here's something for all of those people who think cops are always
more responsible then the rest of the population. I found this article in the
Rocky Mountain Collegian, Colorado State University's newspaper.
SUSPENDED POLICE OFFICER ARRESTED IN REVENGE TRIPLE HOMICIDE
PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) -- A police officer afraid he would be fired for
allegedly assaulting a teen-ager walked into an auto body shop wher the youth
worked, said "You're going to die" and fatally shot him and two others, police
said.
A fourth youth was wounded. A fifth escaped injury by hiding under a car.
The wounded youth ran about two blocks to a house after the shooting at about
midnight Tuesday and called police. He was hospitalized in satisfactory
condition Wednesday.
Suspended police officer Robert Sabetta, 23, of Cranston, was arrested at
gunpoint over three hours after the shooting at Wilson's Auto Enterprises in
Foster, a rural town of about 4,000 people in northwest Rhode Island.
Well, this just goes to show that cops are capable of snapping, just
like everyone else. Now who was it who said only cops should have guns?
Doug Holland
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr20.195116.123380@locus.com> dana@lando.la.locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
>In article <C5qqxp.IE1@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com> hartzler@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr15.192558.3314@icomsim.com> mmanning@icomsim.com (Michael Manning) writes:
>>
>>>duck. Squids don't wave, or return waves ever, even to each
>> ^^^^^^
>> excuse me for being an ignoramus, but what are these.
>
>
>Squids are everybody but me and you. Chris Behanna is especially a squid.
Hey, Dana! Long time, no read. I'm afraid the squid rating has
gone up slightly since getting the Ninja, but I'm trying very hard to restrain
myself--the bodywork is just too damned expensive (knock, knock).
At least it's quiet...
Later,
--
Chris BeHanna DoD# 114 1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com 1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
Disclaimer: Now why would NEC 1991 ZX-11 - needs a name
agree with any of this anyway? I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <sandvik-210493014635@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>In article <C5tCz8.4z9@rbdc.wsnc.org>, royc@rbdc.wsnc.org (Roy Crabtree)
>wrote:
>> In article <20APR199306173611@utarlg.uta.edu> b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (stephen) writes:
>> >In article <sandvik-190493201048@sandvik-kent.apple.com>,
>> >sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes...
>> ...
>> >>So are you happy now when 70+ people, including innocent kids,
>> >>died today?
>>
>> It's amazing how everyone automatically blames one side or the other.
>> One thing for sure: Koresh will have no chance to defend himself
>> against the statements (lacking in fact or COurt sponsored verification)
>> made by agents who participated in the situation that killed him.
>
>Frankly speaking I don't care who started this whole show. I just
>feel sad about the children that were trapped, and had to die
>for a case that didn't have any reason whatsoever. All Mr.
>Koresh could have done would have been to release these 19
>children.
COuld he? And the first three that died, when guns ablazing in came
the BATF and FBI?
I imagine I would have some trouble giving up my children to
someone who had just shot -- what -- two of them?
NB: It takes two sets of guns in a situation like this.
>
>Yes, I put the blame on Koresh and similar fanatical religious
>leaders that think more about their cause than about keeping
Fanatical: those whowill not tolerate another's way of life
Religious: Based on emotional, internal, or otherwise
lacking in commonly defined _scientific_ basis,
including legal ones, such as this old saw:
Innocent untilproven guilty
not
Innocent until presumed guilty
Who is the fanatic? Note who is dead; this usually bespeaks
a fair bit for the idea that the OTHER side also had lethal
weapons, used fatally.
They are dead: the children.
At best Koresh was an asshole and the government
criminally negligent in its hadni\ling of the case.
At worst, Koresh and his followers were
innocent
not brainwashed
guilty of illegal arms possession
(as yet unproven)
and murderedd
along with 25 children
They cannot speak for themselves
Members of the (surviving, alive, and not burned
to death) BATF/FBI can, and are
inappropriately
to the public eye
outside the bounds of their legal authorities
read the charter:
the Constitution specifies that
the COURTS convict, while the
enforcement arm INVESTIGATES,
and that the evidence involved
shuld not be disseminated in a
way to harm or injure a party
involved prior to that action;
its called slander or libel
(even where factually true butthen
distoted or disseminated with intent
to harm
for the purpose of covering their butts
because the bottom line is:
they SAID they wanted the kids to get out
alive
and theFBI, the BATF, Ms. Reno, the Prez,
and EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS
SICK
SELFSERVING
GROUP OF UPRIGHT ANIMALS
that used to be a freedom loving
peaceful country called
America: look up the name,
it might surprise you
has turned the "point the finger of blame"
on the OTHER guy.
and LET THOSE KIDS DIE.
Note well: they lived 51 days; they only
died when attacked by outside force.
SPock's World, Diane Duane:
The spear in the heart of another
is the spear in your own ....
ALL of us are responsible.
Iam; you are. The question is not whether, but how:
Guess what: you get to make up your own mind
on that.
>children out from the war zone. I'm not ashamed of this statement.
Who created the war zone? You should be ashamed of bypassing that.
It's the same damned (Literally) comment made by the folks in
the former Yugoslavia to justify Ethnic Cleansing:
"Gee, they had the guns, all they had to do was surrender".
>
>To justify other means does not eliminate the fact that children
>died for a cause that they should not have been part of.
Whose "cause" did they die for? The one where they lived,
peacibly, to all known purposes (until proven in COurt,
folks!), or the Cuase of Righteous Government SafeGuarding
The Freedom Of The CHildren
Who are now dead.
AgainI say:
I do NOT know who did what
I was NOT there.
The FBI leaders show moral SICKness trying to
convict in the press ahead of schedule
And you should look over your shoulder,
becuase if there is anything my ruminations that
actually sets onto real fact of what happened
and I do not know that; I am defending
people who ahving been burned to death cannot
speak for themselves
you may, in 22-5 years, find that the concept in our
Court system has gone from
Due Processss
to
Due Profit
and the BATF come to collect their fair share of the tax
on the value of your house if you rented it for income
which is going down now, folks.
Read Bankruptcy 1995
Its accurate in figures
and it bypasses the greedy
businessman and
mankers who have
taken profit from the corruption
of our govbernment.
Look to where the money went, folks.
You got $10 for medicare that paid a doctor for
$00.50 worth of medicine.
This is the customaryprofitmargin
to businessmen for goernment entitlements.
Who wll own the land of the cult now? Note well: it WAS nonproift,
religious, and nontaxable. Large tract of land .... hmmm.
Use your brains, folks: it happened Germany, and it can happen
here.
4.3 trillion (admitted) and counting....
>
>Kent
royc.
>---
>sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Subject: CDTV, Accessories, 1084s Monitor.
Because of the 'questionable' bids being placed for the set-up, I am
including some 'guideline' prices in this REPOST. Negotiable, of course.
In anticipation of the arrival of my new computer system, I am
selling my CDTV and accessories. I am in no rush to sell this
so if you don't have the money now, but may be able to get it in
a few weeks, make a bid and let me know.
I am NOW willing to sell the pieces separately, but I will wait to sell
until they are all accounted for (at least CDTV and Keyboard Kit)
I will sell the monitor separately.
CDTV (6 months old. Mint condition. Comes with all documentation,
packaging, receipt, etc, all in mint condition. Demo disc.)
----->I will start bidding at $375 for this
CDTV Keyboard Package [Keyboard, mouse, 3.5" drive] (Comes with all
documention, packaging, receipt etc. 6 months old. Mint
turns your CDTV into a full fledged AMIGA 500 computer!)
----->I will start bidding at $125 for this
1084s Monitor (A couple years old. Very Good condition. Comes with
all documentation, packaging, and receipt if I can find it.)
----->I will start bdding at $125 for this
Software (Various titles...games, demos, etc. NOTE: I have no CDTV
discs. All software is 3.5" disc based).
----->FREE with PACKAGE deal.
Please send your best bid to io00844@maine or call (207)-581-7589.
Ask for Zero Batzell. You can leave a message if I'm not in.
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Zero Z. Batzell | CDTV Owner. "We come in peace...shoot to kill!"
(207)-581-7589 | Iguana Owner. "NCC-42 U.S.S. Heart Of Gold"
University of Maine | Video Hobbyist. "Live long and Don't Panic!!"
student with a | Star Trek TNG Fan.
(Mostly Harmless) | Douglas N. Adams Fan. MAJOR: Life, The Universe,
transfer in mind. | Orson Scott Card Fan. and Everything.
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The Enterprise is not a ship for freeloading degenerate hitchhikers.
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr14.4274.32512@dosgate>
russell.sinclair-day@canrem.com (russell sinclair-day) writes:
> What we are really worried about is not knowing the facts. The doctor
> has stated that things will not be good if she is a carrier and avoids
> further questions on the subject. We really would like to know so we
> can take steps and plan in advance for any eventualities.
>
> Thank-you for your very informative post. Right now I am just trying
> to find out everything that I can.
>
> Russ.
Unfortunately, Hep B infection can eventuate in chronic hepatitis and
subsequent cirrhosis. Although not many patients with Hep B go on to
chronic hepatitis, it does still occur in a good number (20%?) and is
something to keep in mind. Hepatitis C (was: non-A, non-B Hep) much
more frequently leads to chronic hep and cirrhosis. There is also an
autimmune chronic hepatitis that affects mostly younger women which
also leads to cirrhosis.
Of course, cirrhosis is a most unkind disease. The most dangerous
effects relate to portal hypertension and loss of liver function.
Patients develop life-threatening variceal bleeds and hepatic comas,
among many other problems, as a result of disturbances in hepatic
circulation. Less ominously, they can exhibit the effects of
hyperestrogenemia which often characterize patients with cirrhosis.
These effects include telangiactasias (small red skin lesions) and, in
men, gynecomastia (breast development). The only real treatment for
cirrhosis is liver transplant.
Keep in mind that cirrhosis is not expected, at least statistically, in
your friend's case. Nevertheless you might want to bring up the
subject of chronic disease and cirrhosis with the doctor. Hopefully he
or she can then carefully explain these sequelae of Hep B infection to
you, and offer you support.
Simon.
| 13sci.med |
In article <30136@ursa.bear.com> halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes:
>In article <1qjd3o$nlv@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>>Firstly, science has its basis in values, not the other way round.
>>So you better explain what objective atoms are, and how we get them
>>from subjective values, before we go any further.
>
>Atoms are not objective. They aren't even real. What scientists call
>an atom is nothing more than a mathematical model that describes
>certain physical, observable properties of our surroundings. All
>of which is subjective.
[rest deleted...]
You were a liberal arts major, weren'tcha?
Guess you never saw that photo of the smallest logo in the world--
"IBM" made with noble gas atoms (krypton? xenon? I forget the
specifics).
Atoms, trees, electrons are all independently observable and
verifiable. Morals aren't. See the difference?
Tep
--
Men who love brown tend to be warm and deep, sensitive to the needs and
desires of their partners. Sex is a 24 hour a day thing. Snuggling by
the fire, walking in the rain or catching snowflakes on their tongue is
a real turn-on to a lover of brown. (thanx becka!)
| 0alt.atheism |
I'm having trouble with installing a second IDE drive on a Promise IDE caching
controller. The first drive is a conner 3204 and works fine. The second drive
is a conner 30174, it is currently unjumpered to be the slave drive. The
problem is the slave drive is recognized but is reported back as having no
free space. Disabling cache has made no effect. What else should I check for?
krispy
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Here follows a headerless (my editing) email message in full (except for the
header) sent to me by congruent corporation today. I received it about 5
minutes ago, and still haven't read it.
Have fun.
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Supports X Terminals
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Target Market
Customers With Unix/X Applications Who Want To Standardize On Windows NT
Allows Hosting On Windows NT With Minimal Effort
Permits X Clients On Single Windows NT System To Support Multiple Users
X Servers Can Be X Terminals, Unix Based, NT Based, Windows Based
BSD Library Behavior
Minimize Unix Porting Effort
Layered Above Standard C Libraries/WINSOCK
NT Registry Path/Drive Replacement
BSD Include File Layout
True Berkeley Sockets
Supplies Common BSD Functions Missing From NT
X Programming Libraries
Complete X.V11R5 Libraries
Motif Widget Libraries
Motif UIL
Registry Based X Configuration Locator
Direct to Windows GDI via "local socket" winnt:0
X Support Applications
Includes Full Set Of X Client Applications
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Multiuser NT Capabilities
NtNixTerm: Special Adaptation of Xterm
Special NT Hosted Command Shell
Provides LOGNAME, HOME facilities
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X Terminal Support
BOOTP to Boot X Terminals
TFTPD For Font Loading
Font Server For Scaled X Fonts
XRemote for Serial SLIP X
info@com.congruent (Congruent Information)
--
snail@lsl.co.uk
"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless
means to side with the powerful, not to be Neutral."
Quote by Freire.
Poster by OXFAM.
| 5comp.windows.x |
I've come across a circuit from Integrated Circuit Systems Inc
called a GSP500. This chip genlocks a VGA card to a dual input
NTSC signal.
The output from this chip is basicly a pixel clock, and has various
speeds. I notice that it outputs a 28mhz clock.. can this output be
used on an Amiga system?
And must it be NTSC/VGA or can it be NTSC/NTSC ?
Any simple circuits to boost an NTSC to a VGA signal?
Need to genlock a laser disc to my 31khz video.
-John
flux@inqmind.bison.mb.ca
The Inquiring Mind BBS, Winnipeg, Manitoba 204 488-1607
| 12sci.electronics |
I have a Lightening Scan Pro 256 hand scanner. It came with scanning/editing
software, OCR software, and some plug-in modules for Photoshop et al. The
scanner was a tad on the pricey side ($480), but the scans are incredibly
accurate, in 256 level, 300 dpi grayscale. It also has dithered and line art
settings when grayscale isn't desired. Great scanning software, easy to use. I
frequently write letters to my neices, and spontaneouly include a scanned image
in the note. Hope this helps!
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
I've been reading the sci.crypt, alt.privacy.clipper and comp.org.eff.talk
discussions about the Clipper chip and find (as usual) that most of us
think alike -- so there's a lot of repitition. If each of these messages
were sent to Clinton as well as to the net (or instead of to the net), we
might actually have some effect.
0005895485@MCIMAIL.COM (White House)
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- <<Disclaimer: All opinions expressed are my own, of course.>>
- Carl Ellison cme@sw.stratus.com
- Stratus Computer Inc. M3-2-BKW TEL: (508)460-2783
- 55 Fairbanks Boulevard ; Marlborough MA 01752-1298 FAX: (508)624-7488
| 11sci.crypt |
eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
>
> >I think the Israeli press might be a tad bit biased in
> >reporting the events. I doubt the Propaganda machine of Goering
> >reported accurately on what was happening in Germany. It is
> >interesting that you are basing the truth on Israeli propaganda.
>
> If you consider Israeli reporting of events in Israel to be propoganda, then
> consider the Washington Post's handling of American events to be propoganda
> too. What makes the Israeli press inherently biased in your opinion? I
> wouldn't compare it to Nazi propoganda either. Unless you want to provide
> some evidence of Israeli inaccuracies or parallels to Nazism, I suggest you
> keep your mouth shut. I'm sick and tired of all you anti-semites comparing
> Israel to the Nazis (and yes, in my opinion, if you compare Israel to the Nazis
> you are an anti-semite because you know damn well it isn't true and you are
> just trying to discredit Israel).
>
> Ed.
>
You know ed,... You're right! Andi shouldn't be comparing
Israel to the Nazis. The Israelis are much worse than the
Nazis ever were anyway. The Nazis did a lot of good for
Germany, and they would have succeeded if it weren't for the
damn Jews. The Holocaust never happened anyway. Ample
evidence given by George Schafer at Harvard, Dept. of History,
and even by Randolph Higgins at NYU, have shown that the
Holocaust was just a semitic conspiracy created to obtain
sympathy to piush for the creation of Israel.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr06.062907.108109@locus.com> aardvark@spica.la.locus.com
(Warren Usui) writes:
>In article <Apr.5.16.22.48.1993.11331@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net
(Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) writes:
>>anyone who writes "dean palmer has 2 homers - at this pace, he'll
>> have 324 home runs!" should be shot.
Now, on the other hand, Juan Gonzales probably DOES have a shot at
324 HR's. ;).
>The Dodgers after one inning of play have committed one error. At this rate
>they'll have 1,455 errors this season!
>Well maybe I'm right this time...
Actually, you might be underpredicting? ;)
-------------------------------------------------------
Eric Roush fierkelab@ bchm.biochem.duke.edu
"I am a Marxist, of the Groucho sort"
Grafitti, Paris, 1968
TANSTAAFL! (although the Internet comes close.)
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Note: I am cross-posting (actually, emailing) this to
bit.listserv.catholic while main posting goes to
soc.religion.christian.
[Quotations omitted. This is in response to a question about
the Immaculate Conception. I explained it, but left justification
up to our Catholic readers. --clh]
There is no direct reference in the Holy Scripture except for the
mention of Mary's _blessedness_/full of grace in the "Annunciation" by
Angel Gabriel in Luke 1:26-28
And in the 6th month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto
a city of Galilee, named Nazareth. To a virgin espoused to a
man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's
name was Mary. And the angel came unto her and said, _"Hail,
thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed
art thou among women."_
Now, now, hold that line of thought - "the Lord is with Mary &
blessed art thou among women" - while you read on....
In the book, "First Lady of the World, A Popular History of
Devotion to Mary" by Peter Lappin:
The _Immaculate Conception_ matter is really far more complicated
than the _Assumption_. This arose in 430 AD. It is quite possible
that the feast of _Mary's Conception_ under the title "The Conception
of Saint Anne", originally commemorated the _physical miracle_ of
a woman _beyond the age_ of child bearing, conceiving a daughter,
just as Elizabeth had conceived John the Baptist. A transfer in
emphasis from the physical miracle wrought in Anne to the miracle
of grace wrought by God in the soul of Mary was _logical_. Mary
is the incorruptible timber "out of which was hewn the _tabernacle_
of Christ's sinless body"; she is "God's Eden, in whom there is
no tree of knowledge, and no serpent that harms." Her perfect
beauty and spotlessness find their exemplar in Christ, her
purity in that of the Father. At the time of the Council of Ephesus,
she was hailed as "innocent, without blemish, immaculate, inviolate,
spotless, holy in soul and body, who was blessed as a lily from
among thorns, unlearned in the evil ways of Eve".
...
At the end of the thirteenth century, an Irish Franciscan,
John Duns Scotus (1266-1308),...God maintained that it was a
greater thing for Him to preserve His (the Son) mother from all
sin _than to use His power to clease her from it later_.
...
Now let's go to the discussion of baptism and original sin.
From "Pocket Catholic Cathechism" by John A. Hardon:
Baptism -
Concupiscence Remains after Baptism.
Concupiscence or the tendency to sin remains in the baptized
but since it is left to provide trial, it has no power to
injure those who do not consent and who by the grace of
Christ Jesus, manfully resist (Canon 5).
Original gifts of Adam and Eve before their fall:
In the light of the foregoing, we see that our first
parents were originally gifted three times over:
-They had the natural gifts of human beings especially the
power to think and to choose freely.
-The had the _preternatural_ gifts of bodily immortality
and of integrity, or the internal power to control desires.
-They had the _supernatural_ gifts of sanctifying grace,
the virtues of faith, hope, and charity and the corresponding
title to enter heaven.
By their disobedience, they lost the _supernatural and
preternatural_ gifts entirely, and were weakened (without
losing) their natural capacity to reason and to choose
freely.
Baptism restores the _supernatural_ life lost by Adam's
sin. It _does not_ restore the _preternatural_ gifts
but gifts as a title to a glorified restoration of our
bodies on the last day...
Going back to _Immaculate Conception_
(I am not sure if this interpretation is in any other
books but it may be another contribution to the 'puzzle'):
Given the miracle of St. Anne bearing a child at a
non-childbearing age, AND Christ was not yet born
AND _there was no baptism yet_ on Mary's birth but
STILL, the Angel Gabriel's greetings was:
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you.
Blessed art thou amongst women".
Even Mary was confused about this greeting.
Mary could very well have possessed all of the
_treefold original gifts above_ given to our first
parents (Adam and Eve before their sin):
Hail Mary (Example of praise given by the Angel Gabriel)
Full of grace (natural, preternatural, supernatural)
The Lord is with you (At those times, God would
definitely want to be with those He
has made _blessed_)
Blessed art thou amongst women (that says it all)
At the conception, God made Mary _full of grace
and blessed_ as the 'tabernacle' for the coming body
of Christ and so,
Immaculate Conception of Mary is true and Mary still
has maintained her Immaculate Heart.
-Marida
(P.S. I do hope that others will continue more
light and facts on this matter. Thanks.)
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