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Here is a list of (mostly) European 5" CD singles I have for sale. All are
brand new and some are still shrink-wrapped. Please e-mail if interested...
Crowded House "Weather With You" w/3 remixes $10
Peter Gabriel "Blood of Eden" digipak w/12 pg. booklet
+ 8:00 remix of "Mercy Street" $10
Genesis "Never A Time" w/"Dreaming While You Sleep (Live)"/
"Turn It On Again (1992 Live)"/
"Tonight, Tonight, Tonight (Full Version Live)" $10
Brian May "Too Much Love Will Kill You" w/
"Too Much Love Will Kill You (Guitar Version)" + 2 more $10
R.E.M. "Radio Song" + 3 Live from Green World Tour $10
R.E.M. "Shiny Happy People" w/"40 Secong Song" +
"Losing My Religion (Live acoustic version) $10
R.E.M. "Near Wild Heaven" w/"Tom's Diner"/"Low"/"Endgame" live $10
R.E.M. "Man on the Moon" w/3 non-LP tracks "Fruity Organ"/
"New Orleans Instrumental #2"/"Arms of Love" $10
R.E.M. "The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite" w/2 non-LP tracks
"The Lions Sleeps Tonight"/"Fretless" $10
R.E.M. "The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite" w/2 non-LP tracks
"Organ Song"/"Star Me Kitten (demo version)" $10
R.E.M. "Everybody Hurts (edit)" w/"New Orleans Instrumental #1
(long version)"/"Mandolin Strum" $10
R.E.M. "Everybody Hurts (edit)" w/2 non-LP tracks
"Chance (Dub)"/"Dark Globe" $10
Sting "If I Ever Lose My Faith In You" w/3 songs from MTV
Unplugged! "All This Time"/"Mad About You"/"Every
Breath You Take" $10
Sting "If I Ever Lose My Faith In You" same as above but
in digipak form $12
U2 "Sunday Bloody Sunday" w/remixes of "Two Hearts Beat As
One" + "New Year's Day" $10
U2 "The Unforgettable Fire" EP w/"The Three Sunrises"/
"A Sort Of Homecoming"/"Love Comes Tumbling"/"Bass Trap" $10
U2 "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses" w/"Paint It Black"
"Salome (Zooromancer remix)"/"Can't Help Falling In
Love (Triple peaks remix)" $10
Neil Young "Harvest Moon (single edit)" w/"Deep Forbidden Lake"/
"Campaigner"/"Winterlong" $8
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <2685.2bd51686@atlas.nafb.trw.com> mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com writes:
>
> { Huckabay's counting frames for bat speed discussion ommited...}
>
>>
>> Well, it's just studying tape, frame by frame. That's all. The biggest
>> thing that you notice, however, is how bastardized the strike zone has
>> become. Death to the umpires' union! The plate is 17" (+1") across,
>> not 23"! Call the high strikes strikes, and quit calling pitches 3"
>> outside strikes -- they're balls!
>>
>
> Speaking of this 23" wide strike zone....
>
> I'd sure like to see cameras placed in each major league park such that
> an overview shot of home plate is available. CBS had this during the
> WS, or did I just dream it.
>
> These pictures would be a feedback device for the umpires so that they can
> see just how terrible (or not) there calls were. Tapes could be sent to
> the league as evidence of bad ball/strike umpiring. Tapes are available
> as evidence of bad out/safe calls on the bases.
>
I guess that nobody noticed that the calls during the world series (and, in
fact all year) have been pretty much consistently CORRECT. Remember: the rule
says it's a strike if ANY PART of the ball passes through the strike zone.
I would certainly agree that high strikes are not called (who could argue
this point?) but all in all I think in and out is called pretty well.
RStimets
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
I posted this question about colorizing motif widgets. I got it working
fine. There was one bug in my .Xdefault file. It should work fine in normal
case.
Thanks
Samir ( spatel@cs.tamu.edu )
| 5comp.windows.x |
The answer to your question is...sort of. Volkswagen had a
much less robust version of this army vehicle out in the
early '70's (or thereabouts). It was called the Volskwagen
Thing, and was, of course, a convertible. I havent seen
many around then or now. Good luck...
-Mik
| 7rec.autos |
Here is a press release from the Reserve Officers Association.
Reserve Officers Say Demographics Ignored in Nominations to
Close Naval, Marine Reserve Centers
To: National Desk, Defense Writer
Contact: Herbert M. Hart of the Reserve Officers Association of
the United States, 202-479-2258
WASHINGTON, April 13 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Reserve Officers
Association of the United States has alerted the Defense Base
Realignment and Closure Commission that the services failed to give
sufficient weight to demographics in recommendations made to close
56 Naval and Marine Corps Reserve centers.
In letters to the closure commission and to all 86 members of
Congress with affected locations in their constituencies, including
Sen. Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services
Committee, ROA charged that the developers of the Navy-Marine list
ignored demographics of the civilian population, particularly prior
service personnel.
ROA's executive director, Maj. Gen. Evan L. Hultman, AUS (Ret.),
suggested "concern that the only plausible alternative is that they
are intentionally attempting to foreclose the Naval Reserve
components from maintaining even today's relatively low level of
participation in their parent service's Total Force of the future."
He asked the commission "to remove from consideration all
locations without sufficient and convincing demographic data to
warrant approval of the requested action."
"Only a few of the 56 Naval and Marine Corps Reserve
installations on this list are large enough to have a significant
impact on the community, if closed," wrote Hultman. "The major
issue is the cumulative impact of moving or closing such a large
percentage of the existing locations."
Hultman reminded the commission, "The fact that the vast
majority of the Reserve installations on this list do not come
close to meeting the minimal requirements for consideration in this
process certainly supports the thesis" that these actions are
simply an attempt to foreclose a substantial role for the Navy and
Marine Corps Reserve.
ROA also noted "that at the end of the 1960s, when the number of
Naval Reservists was approximately the same as today, there were 480
Naval Reserve facilities. If the Navy recommendations are
approved, there will be less than 200 Naval Reserve facilities."
Facilities on the list include seven Naval Air Stations ranging
from South Weymouth, Mass., to Alameda, Calif., 28 Naval
Reserve Centers in Macon, Ga., and Parkersburg, W.Va., to
Missoula and Great Falls. Mont. Naval/Marine Corps Reserve
Centers include four in San Francisco, Fort Wayne, Ind.,
Billings, Mont., and Abilene, Texas.
A major Marine Reserve Center on the list is that at El
Toro, Calif., plus six others.
-30-
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
Jiann-ming Su writes
> Bobby Bonilla supposedly use the word 'faggot' when he got mad at that author
> in the clubhouse. Should he be banned from baseball for a year like Schott?
It wouldn't bother me...
--
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*-------------------------------It's on.--------------------------------*
***"THE RAP IS AN ART EP" is coming out on tape -- this time for real.***
*------------------------E-mail me for the 411.-------------------------*
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr15.142322.1318@atlastele.com>, brians@atlastele.com (Brian Sheets) writes:
> You know, I was reading 18 U.S.C. 922 and something just did not make
> sence and I was wondering if someone could help me out.
>
> Say U.S.C. 922 :
>
> (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for
> any person to transfer or possess a machinegun.
>
> Well I got to looking in my law dictionary and I found that a "person"
> might also be an artificial entity that is created by government
^^^^^
> and has no rights under the federal constitution. So, what I
> don't understand is how a statute like 922 can be enforced on
> an individual. So someone tell me how my government can tell
> me what I can or cannot possess. Just passing a law
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> does not make it LAW.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry, but I really can't figure out what you're trying to say, above.
> Everyone knows that laws are constitional
> until it goes to court.
Not exactly:
"An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes
no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal
contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed."
Norton vs. Shelby County, 118 US 425 p.442
"The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the
form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and
ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the
time of it's enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so
branding it."
"No on is bound to obey an uncontitutional law, and no courts are
bound to enforce it."
16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177
late 2d, Sec 256
> So, has it ever gone to court, not
> just your run of the mill "Ok I had it I am guilty, put me in jail"
> Has anyone ever claimed that they had a right to possess and was told
> by the Supreme Court that they didn't have that right?
Automatic weapons? No. The Supreme Court has never heard such a case.
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
Article #61153 (61302 is last):
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: nstassen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicki A Stassen Lantz)
Subject: HELP: LED connectors for motherboard
Date: Thu Apr 22 09:02:48 1993
I bought a 386DX-40 motherboard for 50$... no documentation at all. Everything
appears to work, except I'm having trouble getting a few of the LED connectors
working. I've looked at the manuals for 4 other motherboards, but the pin
configuration doesn't look anything like what is on this board. Does this
pin arrangement look familiar to anyone out there??? Any hints on where I
can find this information?
1 10
"speaker" . . . . . . . . . .
"keylock" . . . . . . . . . .
11 ^ 20
J23 |
|The board came with a jumper vertically across
these two pins.
I can get the power/keylock to work across pins 11-15, reset across pins 9 and
Shown 82%, press <SPACE> for more, 'q' to quit, or 'h' for help
19, but would prefer not to blow something up by further experimentation.
The date on the board itself is 6/92, opti chips.
I would really appreciate any help, and thank you in advance.
N A Stassen Lantz
End of File, Press RETURN to quit
Nicji,
It would realy realy help if you said what chipset and if the board
was an upgradable or not board and how old it and the bios is???
Sam
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Don't copy that floppy..BURN IT...I just love Windows...CRASH...
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
And he went out to meet Asa,
And said unto him,
Hear ye me, Asa,
And all Judah and Benjamin;
The LORD is with you, while ye be with him;
and if ye seek him, he will be found of you;
but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.
2 Chronicles 15:2
| 19talk.religion.misc |
rj3s@Virginia.EDU ("Get thee to a nunnery.....") writes:
>First of all, Harry, I am not so uninformed about Irgun's
>TERRORIST activities. I'll give you a few quotes from a book
>by Charles D. Smith in his Palestine and the Arab Israeli
>Conflict [1988, 1992]
Ah - Palestine and the Arab Israeli conflict. Sounds interesting.
>"Begin directed the Irgun to bomb only civilian [that's right,
>CIVILIAN] installations linked to the mandatory authority, not
>military sites."
This is misleading. I supposed Charles D. Smith characterizes the bombing
of the King David Hotel as a civilian installation too. Any installation
attacked by Etzel was linked to some sort of official function of the
Mandatory government.
>and of course, there is the LEHI splinter group, which included
>such notable Israelis as Yitzak Shamir... the LEHI [fighters
>for the freedom of Israel} "resumed its assassinations of
>British officials, CIVILIAN, and military".
What kind of CIVILIANS? I assume Charles D. Smith means completely innocent
people who were intentionally targeted, right? Please provide examples.
>and there is of course, Dair Yassin, where 250 men, woman and
>children were killed,... perhaps I'm sure for strategic
>reasons, yet what ever happened to the non aggression pact with
>the Hagana? I have references for that if you'd like. It
>seems to me like blatant scare tactics that Begin himself
>admits to having been very useful in scaring off the
>Palestinian Arabs. [i do have references!... The Revolt(los
>angeles 1972)]
Nice strawman. In _The Revolt_ Begin does state that the *myth* of a massacre
at Deir Yassin may have had the effect of scaring some Arabs into fleeing.
However, nowhere does he claim that this was the result of any specific policy
of the Etzel. Thus, if it did happen, it was not so intended. I think Arab
calls for Palestinians to leave and fear of a war started by Arab hands had
a greater effecton Arab migration than Deir Yassin.
In fact these jewish TERRORIST groups managed
>all in all to scare off 300, 000 Arabs by may 15 1948.
Really. Nice use of caps. I like it. Very effective. Actually, according to
many sources, including American diplomatic officials, the greatest encouragment
for Arabs to leave their villages came from Arab leaders.
>This certainly might be all a matter of semantics however. You
>might say that the Hagana did this for war... but like I said
>before, how do we not know that the Palestinian conflict isn't
>equatable with a war? If Israel never got her state, the
>Hagana's activities would be lost in history, categorized as
>tewrrorism for sure because it could not be identified with the
>cause of a state. I do take this seriously Harry... I
>sincerely think the Palestinians are being discriminated
>against in this case because, perhaps, everyone thinks their
>cause is bogus.
>Anyway... just some stuff to ponder over.
>Over and out.
>Ramiro
Ed.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Hey GUI folks,
Does anyone out there have experience with the HP Interface Architect
(GUI dev tool)? If so, can I call you and ask a couple of quick
questions? I promise I'll be brief, the questions are simple, and of
course I'll call on my nickel.
Jeff Copeland
jeffcop@i88.isc.com
708-505-9100 x330
INTERACTIVE Systems Corp. (now a Systemhouse co.)
--
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jeffcop@i88.isc.com 708-505-9100 x330
| 5comp.windows.x |
Some years ago -- possibly as many as five -- there was a discussion on
numerology. (That's where you assign numeric values to letters and then add
up the letters in words, in an effort to prove something or another. I can
never make any sense of how it's supposed to work or what it's supposed to
prove.)
Somebody posted a long article about numerology in the Bible, saying
things like "this proves the intricate planning of the Scriptures, else
these patterns would not appear".
Then there was a brilliant followup, which was about numerology in all the
other numerology posts. Stuff like "The word `numerology' adds up to 28,
and the word appears 28 times in the posting! Such elegant planning!
Further, the word `truth' ALSO adds up to 28; the writer is using these
numerological clues to show us that we reach truth via numerology!"
(These examples are made up by me just as examples.)
I really liked that reply, because it did such an excellent job of showing
that these patterns can be found in just about anything. However, I did
not save a copy of it. I do not remember the author. I'm only 90% sure
that it was posted to this newsgroup.
BUT, on the off chance that somebody remembers it and saved it, or that the
author is reading here, I wanted to know if anyone could send me a copy. (I
think it should be made into an FAQ, if we can find it.)
Darren F Provine / kilroy@gboro.rowan.edu
"I use not only all the brains I have, but all those I can borrow as well."
-- Woodrow Wilson
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1qm2hvINNseq@shelley.u.washington.edu>,
tzs@stein2.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) wrote:
>
> > ATTENTION: Mac Quadra owners: Many storage industry experts have
> > concluded that Mac Quadras suffer from timing irregularities deviating
> > from the standard SCSI specification. This results in silent corruption
> > of data when used with some devices, including ultra-modern devices.
> > Although I will not name the devices, since it is not their fault...
That's fine, but would you name the "industy experts" so I can try to track
this down?
> This doesn't sound right to me. Don't Quadras use the 53C96? If so, the
> Mac has nothing to do with the SCSI timing. That's all handled by the
> chip.
Yup. That's why I'm kinda curious... most SCSI problems I've encountered
are due to cabling.
noah
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
noah@apple.com Macintosh Hardware Design
...!{sun,decwrl}!apple!noah (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Let me tell you my story.
I grew up catholic. Up until I was 14, it wasn't an issue for me. Then I met
a born-again christian, a very sweet person, not proseletyzing(sp?), not
imposing. I tried to get into being as christian as I could, as I felt I
'should'.
But the more I tried, the more depressed I got. I felt guilty for some of my
own personal, honest feelings. I tried so hard to reconcile this conflict.
until I was 23.
Then I taught myself to think rationally. I read a lot of books, pro and con
religion in general and, specifically, catholicism. I came to a crisis point,
then it finally clicked and now I am a staunch atheist.
This is a very loose explanation, but it's the gist of it.
Now, (at 26) I feel better about myself, better self-esteem, a generally
stronger person. I have well-defined goals. I have a strong and stable sense
of morals and values. I am not a neo-nazi or a corrupt politicain, etc. I
believe in human rights and 'live and let live' among other things. I am very
anti-violent and anti-hatred. (This is to debunk the myth that atheists are
depraved.)
Religion has no place in my system.
Tough.
Bertrand Russell said that we cannot *know* god doesn't exist, we can't prove
it. So, in that sense, we can only truly be agnostic. But, for all practical
purposes there is no god.
Thanqs
ken engel
kene@acs.bu.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <feustelC5tw49.7p5@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>I predict that the outcome of the study of what went wrong with the
>Federal Assault in Waco will result in future assaults of that type
>being conducted as full-scale military operations with explicit
>shoot-to-kill directives.
You mean they aren't already? Could have fooled me.
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <735486396snz@morgan.demon.co.uk>, tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony
Kidson) wrote:
>
> In article <jcn-210493180052@lactose.rice.edu> jcn@rice.edu writes:
>
> >And speaking of shims, why would the clearance of the valves get smaller,
> >i.e.
> >need the use of a thinner shim?
> >
>
> Valve seat wear?
>
Okay, okay. I forgot about that. Sheeesh.
Jeff Nichols
Rice University
| 8rec.motorcycles |
>What does this <censored> from NORWAY think he's doing telling us
>how to run the place? I wanna know... somebody please 'splain.
>
>Guess how NORWAY survived the Third Reich? Give you a hint,
>it wasn't by passive resistance the way the Danes did it....
I believe it had something to do with a politician whose name isn't
exactly the most complimentary word nowadays...one Vidkun Quisling.
We all know what a quisling is, right? I'm sure everyone can come up
with a few examples right about now :->.
-Steve
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In <ia522B1w165w@oeinck.waterland.wlink.nl> Ferdinand Oeinck writes:
>I'm looking for any information on detecting and/or calculating a double
>point and/or cusp in a bezier curve.
See:
Maureen Stone and Tony DeRose,
"A Geometric Characterization of Parametric Cubic Curves",
ACM TOG, vol 8, no 3, July 1989, pp. 147-163.
_______________________________________________________________________
...Ron Capelli IBM Corp. Dept. C13, MS. P230
capelli@vnet.ibm.com PO Box 950
(914) 435-1673 Poughkeepsie, NY 12602
_______________________________________________________________________
"There are no answers, only cross references."
| 1comp.graphics |
Hi!
I recently switched my 3.5" drive to A:. The problem is, while I can read and
write to both the new A: and B: correctly, I can't boot from a floppy in A:.
I've checked the CMOS settings; it is set for Floppy Seek at Boot and Boot
Order A:,C:.
Once, I had a floppy that did not have the systems files on it in A:. I got a
message telling me to put a disk systems disk in the drive. It didn't work.
When I do have a systems disk in the A: drive, this is what happens:
1) Power-on and Memory Test;
2) A: light comes on
3) B: light comes on, followed by a short beep;
4) HD light comes on for an instant;
5) B: light comes on again, then nothing happens
The light goes off, there is no disk activity of any kind, and the screen
blanks. I can't even use ctrl-alt-del.
Any suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Eric Balog
balog@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
AY> In many recent advertisements I have seen both "486DX-50" and "486DX
AY>based systems. Does the first really exists and does it imply that all
AY>circuitry on the motherboard with it works at that speed, as opposite
AY>latter, where only the internals of the CPU are working at 50MHz?
AY>
AY> Many thanx in advance!
AY>
AY>Andrew.
Andrew, yes there is a DX and DX2 version of the 50MHz 486. If you are
considering buying one or the other, definitely go for the DX with a nice
size external cache! The performance is far greater.
The DX2 only has the internal 8k cache to work with at 50MHz, while the DX
has a potentially much larger cache to work at 50MHz with. Neither
systems could actually run a program out of main memory, since DRAM is
still too slow for that high of bus speed ( 60ns = 16.66MHz < 50MHz ).
-rdd
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In article <1993Apr15.050750.3893@nuscc.nus.sg>, cmtan@iss.nus.sg (Tan Chade Meng - dan) writes:
> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
> : In article <1q338l$cva@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric
> : Molas) wrote:
> : > Christianity is an infectious cult. The reasons it flourishes are
> : > because 1) it gives people without hope or driven purpose in life
> : > a safety blanked to hide behind. "Oh wow..all i have to do is
> : > follow this christian moral standard and I get eternal happiness."
> :
> : I agree that in many cases primitive emotional feelings based on
> : 'haha, you won't laugh in hell' mentalities makes certain religions
> : very attractive for certain personalities.
>
> I agree with both of u, but I would like to make a small point. Xtianity, &
> other dogmatic religions, not only attract people without hope etc but
> also attract "average" people as well. I believe that Xtainity, thru
> its escapist doctrines & absolutist attitudes, provides great psychological
> shelter from day-to-day frustrations, unhappiness & fear of uncertainty
> & unknown etc.
>
This is a good point, but I think "average" people do not take up Christianity
so much out of fear or escapism, but, quite simply, as a way to improve their
social life, or to get more involved with American culture, if they are kids of
immigrants for example. Since it is the overwhelming major religion in the
Western World (in some form or other), it is simply the choice people take if
they are bored and want to do something new with their lives, but not somethong
TOO new, or TOO out of the ordinary. Seems a little weak, but as long as it
doesn't hurt anybody...
> The Buddha had something to say about the attractiveness of religions:
>
> "When driven by fear, man worships sacred mountains, sacred stones,
> and sacred trees."
>
> However, the Buddha also said,
>
> "If somebody finds peace in any religion, let him be".
>
>
These are good quotes, and I agree with both of them, but let's make sure to
alter the scond one so that includes something like "...let him be, as long as
he is not preventing others from finding their peace." or something like that.
(Of course, I suppose, if someone were REALLY "at peace", there would be no
need for inflicting evangelism)
> Personally, I feel that since religion have such a poweful
> psychological effect, we should let theists be. But the problem is that
> religions cause enormous harm to non-believers and to humanity as a whole
> (holy wars, inquisitions, inter-religious hatred, impedence of science
> & intellectual progress, us-&-them attitudes etc etc. Need I say more?).
> I really don't know what we can do about them. Any comments?
>
Well, it is a sure thing we will have to live with them all our lives. Their
popularity seems to come and go. I remember when I first entered High School,
I was an atheist (always had been) and so were about 7 of my friends. At this
time, 5 of those 7 have converted, always to Christianity (they were all also
immigrants from Taiwan, or sons of immigrants, hence my earlier gross
generalization). Christianity seems a lot more popular to people now than it
ever has before (since I've been noticing). Maybe it is just my perceptions
that are chagning. Who knows?
I for one am perfectly willing to live and let live with them, so long as we
have some set of abstract rights/agreements on how we should treat each other:
I have no desire to be hurt by them or their notions. For all the well-put
arguments on this usenet, it never does any good. Argumentation does not
really seem to apply to Christians (or even some atheists)- it must simply be a
step the person takes naturally, almost, "instinctively"...
best regards,
********************************************************************************
* Adam John Cooper "Verily, often have I laughed at the weaklings *
* who thought themselves good simply because *
* acooper@macalstr.edu they had no claws." *
********************************************************************************
>
--
>
> The UnEnlightened One
> ------------------+--------------------------------------------------------
> | "Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be
> Tan Chade Meng | expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it
> Singapore | transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology;
> cmtan@iss.nus.sg | it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is
> | based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience
> | of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful
> | unity" -- Einstein
> ------------------+--------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
| 0alt.atheism |
When sw is delivered you will often (always?) get 360 k
diskettes if you opt for the 5 1/4 inch format. How big a %-tage
of existing PC/XT/AT/PS2's have these low capacity drives as
their only diskette station?
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In article <1993Apr16.085717@IASTATE.EDU> tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T Atan) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.174657.6176@news.uiowa.edu>, mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Mau
>Napoleon) writes:
>> From article <1993Apr15.092101@IASTATE.EDU>, by tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T
>Atan):
>> > Well, Panos, Mr. Tamamidis?, the way you put it it is only the Turks
>> > who bear the responsibility of the things happening today. That is hard to
>> > believe for somebody trying to be objective.
>> > When it comes to conflicts like our countries having you cannot
>> > blame one side only, there always are bad guys on both sides.
>> > What were you doing on Anatolia after the WW1 anyway?
>> > Do you think it was your right to be there?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've heard many Turks say this and it surpises me that they don't read about
it.Remember the Treaty of Sevres-as a consequence of being in the Axis powers
in WWI.The Turks UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW were supposed to look after their
minorities ie. Greeks,Armenians,Kurds(I must say Turk-Kurd relations are
improving slightly with time) and not pose a threat to Turkey's neighbours.
The Turks blatantly rejected this treaty(the Germans grudgingly accepted
Versailles which was a million times worse for the health and pride of the
German people).The Greeks who had an army there,were there with BRITISH
and FRENCH backing to enforce Sevres.
In possibly the first example of appeasement the Young Turk government
managed screwed the Treaty of Laussane out of the weak allies,this was after
the Greek forces were were destroyed at Smyrna.When this occurred incidently,
FRENCH warships were in the harbour and many Greeks trying escape swam to the
FRENCH warships and climbed aboard only to get their arms cut off by the FRENCH
as they clawed they're way up the sides of the ships.
Libertae,egalitae,fraternatae.
>>
>> There were a couple millions of Greeks living in Asia Minor until 1923.
>> Someone had to protect them. If not us who??
>>
>> > I am not saying that conflicts started with that. It is only
>> > not one side being the aggressive and the ither always suffering.
>> > It is sad that we (both) still are not trying to compromise.
>> > I remember the action of the Turkish government by removing the
>> > visa requirement for greeks to come to Turkey. I thought it
>> > was a positive attempt to make the relations better.
>> >
>> Compromise on what, the invasion of Cyprus, the involment of Turkey in
>> Greek politics, the refusal of Turkey to accept 12 miles of territorial
>> waters as stated by international law, the properties of the Greeks of
>> Konstantinople, the ownership of the islands in the Greek lake,sorry, Aegean.
>>
>> There are some things on which there can not be a compromise.
>>
>>
>> > The Greeks I mentioned who wouldn't talk to me are educated
>> > people. They have never met me but they know! I am bad person
>> > because I am from Turkey. Politics is not my business, and it is
>> > not the business of most of the Turks. When it comes to individuals
>> > why the hatred?
>>
>> Any person who supports the policies of the Turkish goverment directly or
>> indirecly is a "bad" person.
>> It is not your nationality that makes you bad, it is your support of the
>> actions of your goverment that make you "bad".
>> People do not hate you because of who you are but because of what you
>> are. You are a supporter of the policies of the Turkish goverment and
>> as a such you must pay the price.
>>
>> > So that makes me think that there is some kind of
>> > brainwashing going on in Greece. After all why would an educated person
>> > treat every person from a nation the same way? can you tell me about your
>> > history books and things you learn about Greek-Turkish
>> > encounters during your schooling.
>> > take it easy!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Tankut Atan
>> > tankut@iastate.edu
>> >
>> > "Achtung, baby!"
>>
>> You do not need brainwashing to turn people against the Turks. Just talk to
>> Greeks, Arabs, Slavs, Kurds and all other people who had the luck to be under
>> Turkish occupation.
>> They will talk to you about murders,rapes,distruction.
>>
>> You do not learn about Turks from history books, you learn about them from
>> people who experienced first hand Turkish friendliness.
>>
>> Napoleon
>
>
>Well, Napoleon. It is your kind of people who are preventing peace
>on the world. First of all, you didn't answer the question I asked
>at the end of my posting. And then you told me some bullshit
>throughout your posting which had no positive point about the issue,
>filled with hatred, and filled with emotions. Why am I doing this?
>Forget it, I don't think you are worth it to discuss the issue.
>
>
>--
>Tankut Atan
>tankut@iastate.edu
>
>"Achtung, baby!"
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <13742@news.duke.edu>, seth@north6.acpub.duke.edu (Seth Wandersman) writes...
>
>Keywords:
>
>I am looking for some morphing programs for DEC's or pc's. I looked for a program
>called dmorph using archie but could not find it. I found a progrmam call
>morpho but it only did grayscale images. Does anyone know where I should look?
Try searching for DMORF, I think it's located on wuarchive.wustl.edu in a
mirror directory... I've used it before, & it was pretty good!
Pete Wilmshurst
email: wilmshurst@reg.triumf.ca
| 1comp.graphics |
I need to know the jumper settings for master and/or slave operation on
a Maxtor 7080AT (80MB IDE) hard disk.
Thanks in advance.
--
Erik Svensson ers@skanska.se Tel: +46-8-7538112
Skanska Data, S-182 25 Danderyd, Sweden Fax: +46-8-7538306
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
: In article <1pll52$sms@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah) writes:
: >> WHO is Josie Hadas?
:
:
: I see you didn't notice my recent posting.
:
: The FBI found that "Josie Hadas" was simply an alias taken by Salameh.
:
I have the sources for the information in the Chronology, including the
NY Daily News of March 5 that reports the arrest of Josie Hadas and a
copy of the foreign press reports of her release shortly afterwards.
What is the source for your alias story?
And pray tell me how can the FBI arrest and release an alias?
:
: >> WHAT is the relationship between that person and the Israeli mussad?
:
: Zilch, zero, nothing. Like the IQ of the idiot who posted this absurdity in the
: first place.
What has IQ to do with collecting information and putting it forward. Why
has the FBI refused comment on the Guardian reporter's question about
Hadas' link with Israeli Intelligence (the information did not mention
the Mossad explicitly).
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
[This is a response to a request for a Biblical reference about Satan
being a fallen angel. --clh]
Isaiah 14:12
[A common reading of this passage is that it's referring to
the King of Babylon, using mythological language ironically,
because of his claims. --clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian |
djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein) writes:
>[Summary elided]
>The system as described here can't possibly work. What happens when
>someone plugs the above ciphertext into a receiving chip? To get M
>the receiving chip needs K_P; to get K_P the receiving chip needs U_C.
>The only information it can work with is C. If U_C can be computed
>from C then the system is cryptographically useless and the ``key
>escrow'' is bullshit. Otherwise how is a message decrypted?
The description of the chip's operation evidently leaves out some of the
key management aspects. Either the K_P is the secret key corresponding
to a public key which is broadcast at message initiation, or it is the
result of a Diffie-Hellman key exchange or something similar. Either
way there must be some protocols beyond those described here. It isn't
clear whether they are implemented in the Clipper wiretap chip or must
be provided by other system components.
Hal Finney
| 11sci.crypt |
On a recently acquired Gateway 2000 machine, when starting Windows,
three copyright statements flash on the screen right after the MS logo
disappears and before ProgramManager takes over. This does not happen
on any other of our machines, and I am wondering whether this is a
feature or whether this is related to several problems we are having
with the machine.
The system is a Gateway 2000, 4DX-33 machine.
The messages that appear are:
(c) Copyright 1989-1992 Western Digital Corporation
All Rights Reserved
(c) Copyright 1985-1992 Congruent Corporation
All Rights Reserved
(c) Copyright 1985-1992 Microsoft Corporation
All Rights Reserved
The AUTOEXEC.BAT file looks like this:
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $P$G
SET MOUSE=C:\MSMOUSE
C:\MSMOUSE\MOUSE
PATH=C:\;C:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;c:\123;c:\wp51;f:\apps;f:\system;f:\winapps;f:\public
SET TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
lh wd8003e -n 0x62 5 0x280 0xd000
lh winpkt 0x60 0x62
lh ipx
lh netx
f:\login\login
win :
The CONFIG.SYS file looks like this:
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH,umb
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=D000-D1FF
STACKS=9,256
FILES=50
BUFFERS=30
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /P /E:1024
Does anyone know what is going on? Any help would be much
appreciated.
--
Department of Urban and Regional Planning | E-mail: varkki@uiuc.edu
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | Tel: 217.244.7059
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In <Apr.13.00.08.15.1993.28388@athos.rutgers.edu> jayne@mmalt.guild.org writes:
> gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric Molas) writes:
>
>> Firstly, I am an atheist. I am not posting here as an immature flame
>> start, but rather to express an opinion to my intended audience.
>[deleted]
>>
>> We are _just_ animals. We need sleep, food, and we reproduce. And we
>> die.
>
> I am glad that I am not an atheist. It seems tragic that some people
> choose a meaningless existence. How terrible to go on living only
> because one fears death more than life.
?Huh? Okay, so I'm not Eric Molas, but even if that _is_ how he
feels about life, I disagree with it.
Life, to me, is definitely NOT meaningless; it has precisely the
purpose and meaning I choose to give it. I go on living because I _like_
living; if I needed any further reason, I'd be free - completely free! -
to pick any reason that suited me. That freedom can be almost
intoxicating; it's probably the closest I've ever been to a 'religious'
experience. I'm *very* glad I am an atheist; I wouldn't be anything
else.
> I feel so sorry for Eric and
> yet any attempts to share my joy in life with him would be considered as
> further evidence of the infectious nature of Christianity.
Not unless, in explaining your own subjective experience, you also
try to convert him or proselytize. Merely explaining the effects you
personally experience religion as having on you, is not "infectious".
Not unless Eric is paranoid, that is. ;->
> As a Christian I am free to be a human person. I think, love, choose,
> and create. I will live forever with God.
Whatever floats your goat. You sound happy enough; that's fairly
much all that matters, right?
> Christ is not a kind of drug. Drugs are a replacement for Christ.
Erh... Pardon, but it strikes me that sentence sounds reversible.
> Those who have an empty spot in the God-shaped hole in their hearts must
> do something to ease the pain.
"Empty spot"? "God-shaped hole"? I hear such things a lot from
theists; never quite did understand what they were talking about.
I have no such 'emptiness' or 'hole'. Maybe some others do, I wouldn't
know; but I don't, and if I did, I'd seek help about it. Doesn't sound
like a mentally healthy situation at all, walking around with a 'hole'
in oneself.
> Thank you, Eric for your post. It has helped me to appreciate how much
> God has blessed me. I hope that you will someday have a more joy-filled
> and abundant life.
Well, not having written that original post, I don't know if it
was intended to be interpreted in such a way; but, having reread it
carefully, I somewhat doubt it. At least, that's not how he gets across
to _me_, your mileage may vary...
--
Disclaimer? "It's great to be young and insane!"
| 15soc.religion.christian |
That more or less says it. I flicked the Penguins game on briefly and saw
Ulf cross-check Valeri in the face. I am wondering if Don Cherry is going to
go off on this at all in coach's corner.
billc
--
Bill Clare, Eastman Kodak Company Internet: clare@bissun.kodak.com
m/c 35416 -- 901 Elmgrove Road Phone: (716) 726-9419
Rochester, New York 14653-5416
Any opinions expressed herein belong to me and not to my employer.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <MMEYER.93Apr26102056@m2.dseg.ti.com> mmeyer@m2.dseg.ti.com (Mark Meyer) writes:
> Besides, Kirilian photography is actually photography of my
>friend's two-year-old son Kiril. Perhaps you meant "Kirlian"?
I think it was a typo for "Karelian photography", which is the
practice of taking pictures of either Finns or Russians, depending
on whom one asks.
Eli ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
| 13sci.med |
In article <1qids1INNebl@chnews.intel.com> crichmon@sedona.intel.com (Chris Richmond) writes:
>
>In article <1993Apr14.193122.20818@mprgate.mpr.ca>, vanderby@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Vanderbyl) writes:
>> In article <1993Apr14.172145.27458@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>, crisp@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Russ Crisp) writes:
>> |> I'm considering modernizing some old wiring in my home, and
>> |> I need a little advice on outlet wiring. Several outlets
>> |> are the old 'two prong' type, without the ground. Naturally,
>> |> the wire feeding these outlets is 12/2, WITHOUT the ground
>> |> wire. I noticed at the fusebox that some circuits have the
>> |> 12/2 with ground, and that on these circuits, the ground
>> |> wire was tied to the same bus as the neutral (white) wire.
>> This is contrary to the electrical code and should be fixed.
>Well, my house was built just last year, and the breaker box is wired the
>same way.
There SHOULD be a connection of the GROUND wire to a ground
in the breaker box. There also should be a connection of the NEUTRAL
wire to a ground in the breaker box. There should be no other
place in the building where such a connection occurs (i.e. not in
any of the outlet boxes).
The NEUTRAL (white) wire is a 'grounding conductor' for
the plug, and is NOT safe to touch, while the GROUND (green)
wire is a 'protective ground' and carries no current unless
some kind of electrical fault has occurred. It's safe
to touch the protective ground, but not to touch the
grounding conductor (because there is current in the grounding
conductor, its outlet-box end will not be at the same ground
potential as its breaker-box end).
John Whitmore
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <pww-150493205533@spac-at1-59.rice.edu> pww@spacsun.rice.edu (Peter Walker) writes:
#In article <1qkn1t$59l@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank
#O'Dwyer) wrote:
#>
#> In article <1qk1pp$6hj@kyle.eitech.com> ekr@kyle.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
#> |Perhaps you should explain what you think "science has it's basis
#> |in values" means. The reason why people DO science is that
#> |they value it's results. That does not mean that science has
#> |it's basis in values. Any more than DES stops working if I stop
#> |valuing my privacy.
#>
#> It's partly as you say: the reason why people do science is that they value it's
#> results. If one follows relativism to the letter, then, the theories
#> and predictions which are the results of science can only be subjectively
#> valued as 'objective', 'correct', or anything else. One cannot attach
#> any objective worth to the results of science, for the simple reason
#> that one cannot attach objective worth to anything.
#
#So what? The value I assign the results is as real *to me* as they can get.
#I'm just not limited to how things are valuable to me. Aside from our own
#desires for its results, science has no value. Nevertheless, it still
#accurately describes how the universe works, humans or no humans.
You were doing fine until that last sentence. I believe this too,
but please prove it.
#> Which facts to observe?
#
#That's the value judgement you're confusing, and a question for an
#individual researcher. For science, the answer is unequvocal: all.
Impossible. One observes the simple facts, the ones that are likely to
turn up again. Judgement call. You can't observe everything, and you
can't test every hypothesis. Therefore you select. That's a bunch
of subjective people judging the importance of obs. and hypotheses -
can they do this reliably?
#> What is a fact? When am I justified in valuing sensory input as signal rather than noise? How do I know that everyone makes the call the same as I do?
#
#You don't. That's why it takes substantially more than one observation
#before a newly observed phenomenon is judged to be real or noise. I suppose
#you didn't know that there are still people out there making observations
#to further verify F=ma.
"judged" to be real or noise? How do I do this? Do you do it the same
way as I do? How do we know this? Are we assuming an objective reality
or something? Gee, maybe we are, and judgement is necessary to find out
what it is.
#> So the relativist attends to a system, designed at whim, fed with what should
#> be assumed to be conflicting data, in the expectation of results which need
#> satisfy no-one. GIGO.
#
#Strawman. You're mixing relativism in value for relativism in observation.
Relativism in value => if we all pick different observations to study, it
doesn't matter. We don't know which obs. are
important.
Relativism in value => if we all pick doctored observations to study, it
doesn't matter. We don't know which obs. are
important.
Relativism in value => we all pick different systems to examine phenomena, it
doesn't matter. We don't know which system works
well. Tarot cards are science too.
No mix-up. I still don't like the conclusions, which is why I question
the premise that subjective value judgements can never be assumed to be
reliable and therefore correct.
#You've been barking up this tree for some time, and you haven't gotten
#anywhere.
I've been looking for the separation of church and state in Ireland since
I was 14, and haven't gotten anywhere. So what?
--
Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That'
odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <badboyC64t0z.FGq@netcom.com> badboy@netcom.com (Jay Keller) writes:
>
>(I've already heard from a couple who said they had it and it didn't
>really help them).
>
>I am a moderately severe asthmatic. ENT doc says large percentage see some
>relief of their asthma after sinus surgery. Also he said it is not unheard of
>that migraines go away after chronis sinusitis is relieved.
>
>
>
Did your ENT also tell you that this procedure may remove warts from the soles
of your feet and improve your sex life?
| 13sci.med |
In article <pebi.735631265@zephyr.aem.umn.edu> pebi@aem.umn.edu (Peter A. Bidian) writes:
> There is another advantage with manuals. You can start the car by pushing it
> and shifting into second gear. This doesn't work with an automatic.
>
> Peter
>
Just for the record, read your owner's manual before attempting a push start.
Most manufacturers today do not recommend this (I think the catalytic converter
is the primary reason - unburned gas goes down to it and may ignite when
the converter gets into its operating range).
The best reason for a manual? Because you like to drive one. I find that its
much easier to develop lazy habits in an auto trans car. Remember, pay
attention out there - stupidity behind the wheel has still taken more people
to the morgue than drunk driving. The problem is that we don't revoke peoples
license for stupidity.
Jeff Goss
| 7rec.autos |
1976 BMW 530i
The original four door sports sedan
Arctic Blue metallic with gold alloy plus-1 wheels (Rial 15")
Goodyear Eagle GT+4 racing tires (mud/snow-rated)
3.0 liter, 186 HP, fuel injected engine w/Stahl headers
adjustable gas shocks all around (Koni,BYK)
4 speed stick, 4 wheel power disc brakes, sunroof, PS, AC
Listen-Up installed hidden speaker stereo w/subwoofer
208K miles (yet much better condition than most cars w/100K)
Meticulously maintained: all records, 3K mi oil changes
Faded paint on top, otherwise excellent exterior and interior.
The car has required no major repair work in the more than ten years I have
owned it. It has never failed to start or broken down, even in the coldest
weather. This has been an extraordinarily reliable and economical car, and
shows every sign of staying that way. Yet it is an absolute thrill to drive
when you take it to secluded twisty mountain road! I sell it now,
reluctantly, since I just succumbed to the convertible craving and bought a
new Miata.
$2500 obo
Rich Fozzard 497-6011 or 444-3168
========================================================================
Richard Fozzard "Serendipity empowers"
Univ of Colorado/CIRES/NOAA R/E/FS 325 Broadway, Boulder, CO 80303
fozzard@fsl.noaa.gov (303)497-6011 or 444-3168
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1r5e1vINNkn@gap.caltech.edu> keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
>kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>
>>>>Wait. Are we talking about ethics or morals here?
>>>Is the distinction important?
>>Yes.
>
>Well, make it.
Ethics deal with individuals. Morals deal with groups.
>>>Well, our moral system seems to mimic the natural one, in a number of ways.
>>Please describe these "number of ways" in detail. Then explain the any
>>contradictions that may arise.
>
>Just look at how human behavior mimics animal behavior. I couldn't even
>begin to list all of the similarities. Many of the dissimilarities are due
>to our high intelligence.
Please describe these "number of ways" in detail. Then explain any
contradictions that may arise.
>>>I don't know. What is wrong? Is it possible for humans to survive for
>>>a long time in the wild? Yes, it's possible, but it is difficult. Humans
>>>are a social animal, and that is a cause of our success.
>>Define "difficult".
>
>I don't understand what you don't understand.
The sentence, "Yes, it's possible, but it is difficult." Humans survived
"in the wild" for hundreds of thousands of years.
>>>No. As noted earlier, lack of mating (such as abstinence or homosexuality)
>>>isn't really destructive to the system. It is a worst neutral.
>>So if every member of the species was homosexual, this wouldn't be destructive
>>to the survival of the species?
>
>Most animals that exhibit homosexuality are actually bisexual.
Answer the question, Keith. Is homosexuality detrimental to the survival
of the species?
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| 0alt.atheism |
In article <texdude.735595914@cs1.bradley.edu> texdude@cs1.bradley.edu (Philip Allen) writes:
>
>Who holds the record for most career strikeouts while playing for one team?
>Who holds the record for most career strikeouts for the Rangers?
>(Hint: Nolan Ryan isn't either)
>
>What two pitchers have over 100 career saves for two different teams?
>
>Who is the only player to hit 300 or more career home runs and steal 300 or
>more career bases for the same team?
>
>No fair peeking at your baseball stats....
>
>
>Phil Allen
>texdude@cs1.bradley.edu
I'll post my guesses to some of these and other trivia questions posted.
For most career K's with one team, if it's not Ryan, perhaps Steve Carlton.
With the Rangers, Hough was there for a long time.
In the 100 saves department...Maybe Lee Smith(he should have at least
a hundred with the Cubbies, maybe enough with either the RSox or Cards.)
Then maybe, Gossage?(NYY and SD), Fingers (MIL, OAK)
Don't know about the homers/steals dept.
In some other article,(Mets trivia), it could be Tim Leary in at least
the losing to all teams, maybe beating all of 'em too. Probably Seaver
and Koosman fit too.
And in Randy Johnson's no-hitter, I think it was Scott Bradley, the
other half of the old Mariner catching platoon, who was behind the plate
that night.
David Plurad
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr18.000152.2339
@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
> Surrender your arms. Soon enough,
> officers will be around to collect
> them. Resistance is useless. They
> ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^
> will overwhelm you - one at a time.
Are you certain you didn't mean to post
to alt.french.captain.borg.borg.borg?
You'd better rush home...I hear Kruschev
calling "Come to papa, jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu!"
"I am endeavoring, ma'am, to construct a mnemonic memory
circuit, using stone knives and bearskins." --Spock
- Humble Typesetter -
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <115793@bu.edu>, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
|> In article <1qla0g$afp@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>|> >I hope an Islamic Bank is something other than BCCI, which
>|> >ripped off so many small depositors among the Muslim
>|> >community in the Uk and elsewhere.
>|> Grow up, childish propagandist.
|>
|> >BBCI was an example of an Islamically owned and operated bank -
|> >what will someone bet me they weren't "real" Islamic owners and
|> >operators?
|>
|> An Islamic bank is a bank which operates according to the rules
|> of Islam in regard to banking. This is done explicitly by the
|> bank. This was not the case with BCCI.
So now you are saying that an Islamic Bank is something other than
BCCI.
Would you care to explain why it was that when I said "I hope an
Islamic Bank is something other than BCCI", you called me a childish
propagandist.
jon.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr15.222224.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg> ba7116326@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg writes:
>hello there
>ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the Yamaha v-max, pls kindly
>comment on its handling .
I've ridden one twice. It was designed to be a monster in a straight line,
which it is. It has nothing on an FZR400 in the corners. In fact, it just
didn't handle that well at all in curves. But hey, that's not what it
was designed to do.
My two cents,
Alan
| 8rec.motorcycles |
It is 5 years old. Model CCD-V5. 6x zoom. Everything works perfectly.
Uses 8 mm tapes (not Hi-8, that was not around 5 years ago!).
$350 plus shipping or best offer.
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| 6misc.forsale |
> When are we going to hear a Christian answer to this question?
>
> In paraphrase:
>
> On what or whose authority do Christians proclaim that they
> are above the Law and above the Prophets (7 major and 12 minor) and not
> accountable to the Ten Commandments of which Jesus clearly spoke His opinion
> in Matthew 5:14-19? What is the source of this pseudo-doctrine? Who is
> the pseudo-teacher? Who is the Great Deceiver?
OK, here's at least one Christian's answer:
Jesus was a JEW, not a Christian. In this context Matthew 5:14-19 makes
sense. Matt 5:17 "Do not think that I [Jesus] came to abolish the Law or
the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill." Jesus lived
under the Jewish law. However, He was the culmination of the promises
of the Prophets. He came to *fulfill* the prophecies and fully obey
God's purposes.
Verse 18 says "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass
away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law,
until all is accomplished." The key to this verse IMHO is the last
phrase. Jesus, as the fulfillment of the law, "accomplished" what the
Law was supposed to accomplish.
Verse 19: "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments,
and so teaches others, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven;
but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the
kingdom of heaven." Taken in the context of Jesus teaching Jewish
people about living lives under the law, this makes sense.
In general, it appears that Jesus is responding to some criticism he
must have received about "doing away with the Law." That was not
Jesus' intent at all. He had come to earth to live the Law as it
should be lived and fulfill the promises made by God to his
people all the way back to Eve [Gen 3:15-The serpent will bruise your
heel, but *He* will bruise his head.] Jesus appeared to be "doing
away with the Law" because he did not honor the traditions of men as
equal to the Law of God. He regularly locked horns with the religious
leaders of the day because he would not conform to *their* rules, only
God's Law.
In the Matthew passage Jesus is defending his dedication to the Law
and defending himself against his accusors. Almost the entire Sermon
on the Mount (Matt. 5-7) is dedicated to helping the Jewish people
understand the true intent of the Law, sweeping away the clutter which
had been introduced by the Pharasees and their traditions.
In Galatians 3:23-26, Paul describes the relationship of Jesus to the
Law in this way:
[23] But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being
shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. [24] Therefore
the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we may be
justified by faith. [25] But now that faith has come, we are no
longer under a tutor. [26] For you are all sons of God through faith
in Christ Jesus.
I believe this says that after Christ was revealed, the Law had
served it's purpose, i.e. "our tutor to lead us to Christ," and
now, "we are no longer under a tutor." The law has been "fulfilled"
as Christ said he would do.
God, the author of the old Law, and the Christ/Man, Jesus, are the same
personality. Therefore, the old Law and the new Testament (the "last
will and testament" of Jesus) are based on the same moral principles.
It makes sense that many of the principles in the old Law are
re-expressed in Christianity.
On the other hand, now that the Law has fulfilled it's purpose and
Christians relate to God through Christ, not the Law, it also makes
sense that new practices and new symbolisms were established to
represent the "mysteries" of this new relationship. i.e. Baptism
representing Christ's death, burial, and resurrection (Rom. 6:3-8),
The Lord's supper as a memorial to His sacrifice (I Cor. 11:26), and
Sunday as a day of worship commemorating His resurrection (Matt 28:1ff,
Acts 20:7)
OK, That's one Christian's explanation. I don't claim to have all
these issues completely settled even in my own mind and I welcome
other Christians to offer other alternatives.
Please excuse the long posting. Thanks for your interest if you have read
this far...
John Nunnally
Nunnally@acs.Harding.edu
| 19talk.religion.misc |
K(> king@reasoning.com (Dick King) writes:
K(>
K(> RR> ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth) wrote:
K(> RR> OTOH, who are we kidding, the New England Medical Journal in 1984
K(> RR> ran the heading: "Ninety Percent of Diseases are not Treatable by
K(> RR> Drugs or Surgery," which has been echoed by several other reports.
K(> RR> No wonder MDs are not amused with alternative medicine, since
K(> RR> the 20% magic of the "placebo effect" would award alternative
K(> RR> practitioners twice the success rate of conventional medicine...
K(>
K(> 1: "90% of diseases" is not the same thing as "90% of patients".
K(>
K(> In a world with one curable disease that strikes 100 people, and nine
K(> incurable diseases which strikes one person each, medical science will cure
K(> 91% of the patients and report that 90% of diseases have no therapy.
K(>
K(> 2: A disease would be counted among the 90% untreatable if nothing better than
K(> a placebo were known. Of course MDs are ethically bound to not knowingly
K(> dispense placebos...
K(>
K(> -dk
Hmmm... even *without* the ;-) at the end, I didn't think anyone
was going to take the mathematics or statistics of my post seriously.
I only hope that you had the same thing in mind with your post,
otherwise you would need at least TWO ;-)'s at the end to help
anyone understand your calculations above...
--Ron--
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| 13sci.med |
In article <7306@pdxgate.UUCP> idr@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Ian D Romanick) writes:
>What kind of polygons? Shaded? Texturemapped? Hm? More comes into play with
>fast routines than just "polygons". It would be nice to know exaclty what
>system (VGA is a start, but what processor?) and a few of the specifics of the
>implementation. You need to give more info if you want to get any answers! :P
I don't want texture mapped, cause if I did I'd asked for them. :) Just
a simple and fast routine to do filled polygons. As for the processor, it'd
be for a minimum of a 286... maybe 386 if I can't find a good one for 286s.
Ideally, I want a polyn function that can clip to a user-defined viewport,
and write to an arbitrary location in memory. Of course the chances of
finding something like that are pretty remote, so I guess I'd need the source
with it. Oh, and I guess it would need to be in ASM otherwise it'd be too
slow. I've seen some polygon routines in C, and they've all been waaay too
slow. Its for a 3D vector graphics program. I've been hunting high and low
for a polyn function in ASM, and I can't find one anywhere that I can use.
I've found one or two polyn functions, but my ASM is pretty bad, so I won't
even try to rewrite them. :)
//Lucas.
| 1comp.graphics |
I would like to see a serious discussion on the best way to install windows
from a Novell administrator's point of view.
I just got off the phone with MS Access support and was told that they
(Microsoft) has decided to implement, as a standard for software support,
the LOCAL setup (described below) as the "most advantageous installation".
If this is true and Microsoft deems this to be the most prudent installation
then I will comply but I'd like to hear it from administrators first.
The LOCAL Windows Installation:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Windows is fully installed on each workstation hard drive (assuming the
resources are available). From a network administrator's implementation,
he/she would install all windows disks on a network drive using SETUP/A.
Then install windows on a per/machine bases by running SETUP off the network
to install the complete system on the local drives. In this way, all drivers
are available to the SETUP procedure w/o the need to change disks.
Advantages:
- Reduce Traffic - Running Windows locally reduces network traffic due to
the local access of main Windows files.
- Network independence - If the network fails (and they all do at one point
or another), the local installation would allow users to keep producing
and reduce the cost of down-time.
- Faster Windows - Theoretically, Windows will run faster from a local hard
drive than over a network. This may be a hard point to prove if the network
has an optical backbone and/or the network drives are significantly faster
access than local ones.
- A user traveling from machine to machine does not need to worry about
varying setups (monochrome, color, types of mouse, etc...) since the
Windows installation is assigned to the Workstation.
Disadvantages:
- Cost - Installing Windows locally requires a significant amount of disk
space. Workstations now must be purchased with a hard disk that can
increase the cost of the workstation from 10 to 30 percent.
- Administration - Local windows installations are very difficult to
administer.
New drivers for peripherals are constantly being made available, each of
which would have to be individually installed on each workstation.
- Security - Users now have access to erase or corrupt their own system
files from simple ignorance. This could result in quite a headache for
administrators who may have to constantly repair damaged installations.
- Backup - We all know the problems backing up local hard disks. The backup
sets (if done via a centralized tape system) get very large very quickly.
Backup individually (to floppy) may not happen at all. This may be
eliminated if it is assumed that local hard disks only contain replaceable
applications and *not* user data.
The SHARED Windows Installation
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Windows is fully installed to a network disk via the SETUP/A procedure
described above. Users (or administrators) then install a minimal set of
files to individual "user" directories. These directories may be on a
local hard disk or perhaps a network "home" directory. The bulk of the
Windows system files are maintained on the network in a single directory
(some 400+ files) and are accessed (shared) as-needed by users throughout
their Windows session. The user's files consist of a small set of files
that the user has updated during his/her Windows session. These include
group files, .INI files and other regularly updated files.
Advantages:
- A single location for all files makes updates to drives easy. As
an updated driver becomes available, it only needs to be installed in this
single directory for all users to be able to take advantage of it.
- Assuming that the users' files are maintained in network (home) directories,
the administrator can easily edit any .INI file as-needed to correct
problems that may arise. This includes WIN.INI and SYSTEM.INI.
- Backup of all pertinent files is done easily. Even if the users' files
are on a local hard disk, the bulk of the Windows system is backed up with
all driver updates.
Disadvantages:
- Network traffic - since all Windows files are being shared in a network
directory, traffic on the network can become a problem an effect the
speed of Windows.
- If the network crashes, all production comes to a stop since Window's
is reliant upon the network for its files. Loss of data usually occurs
as well since users working in Windows at the time of the crash will
usually not be able to save their work.
- Although minimal, disk space is still a consideration. If the users' files
are maintained on the network, a large number of users can cause a
significant utilization of disk space due to their personal Windows
files alone.
- Users cannot easily move from machine to machine unless the workstation
hardware are similar. This is due to the Windows installation being
tied to a particular username (in the case of Network user files).
The Discussion
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I would like to know, from other administrators with a large Windows
userbase, how they prefer setting up Windows. Personally, I have
setup numerous installations using the SHARED setup. All Windows and
application files are on the network with little or no utilization of
local hard disks. In fact, I sold a network on the fact that the
company would no longer need to purchase hard disks for their workstations
and thus save that much more money.
I would also like to see recommendations for applications. Should
apps such as Word and/or Excel be installed locally regardless of how
Windows is installed? Again, I keep all files on the network for easy
backup and administration but this is "putting all eggs in one basket";
if the network crashes, work comes to a halt.
Now I am sure Microsoft (and I know your out there) has their own
ideas about this and their insights would be of great value but I hope to
hear from people with "actual" working experience with users and network
administration.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1qlf7gINN8sn@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith
Allan Schneider) wrote:
> Which type of morality are you talking about? In a natural sense, it
> is not at all immoral to harm another species (as long as it doesn't
> adversely affect your own, I guess).
Hehehe, so you say, but this objective morality somehere tells you
that this is not the case, and you don't know all the rules of such
transcendental game systems...
Cheers,
Kent
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| 0alt.atheism |
> There is this buy at NASA Langley...
YES! Give me his name I would greatly appreciate it.
Rich
"The Earth is a cradle of the mind. But, we cannot live forever in a cradle"
K.E. Tsiolkovski
Father of Russian Astronautics
| 14sci.space |
I have a few questions I'd like to ask;
First,How would someone(me)be able to get a dealers license
and second,besides dear old departed gramp's,where would I
find a good place to learn gunsmithing.
all replies appreciated!
John
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr23.140355.25353@icd.ab.com> kdw@icd.ab.com (Kenneth D. Whitehead) writes:
>dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James P. Dusek) writes:
>>> If the FBI started the fire, why didn`t people flee the
>>>burning building?
>
>Could be a lot of reasons, James... We won't know until the survivors are
>allowed to speak for themselves, rather than through an FBI spokesman.
Some of the survivors have been "interviewed" on TV as they were going
to or returning from court. They basically said, no way was there any
kind of suicide pact or attempt.
--
Remember the Texas holocaust.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr21.204556.21262@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> camter28@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Carter Ames) writes:
>
> I was just wondering one thing, actually two. ( I hope that this is the
>proper place to post this subject)
>
> Why does a lead acid battery discharge and become dead (totally unuseable)
>when stored on a concrete floor?
> I decided to bring the battery in from the lawn mower and the motorcycle
>from the unheated garage this year, *to preserve them* and I just
>went to use them and noticed that not only do they not work, but
>they act like the two terminals are shorted. I asked a friend
>and he said that you should never do that, 'cause it ruins them,
>but he couldn't tell me why.
>
It's NOT the concrete floor that does it. The problem is that lead-acid
cells self discharge over time. Even high quality cells (Gates for instance)
will discharge 50-60% over a 3-5 month period of time. Non-sealed cells
self discharge even faster. If the battery was not completly charged
when left sitting, it probably discharged past the the point where cell
sulfiding occurs, which in many cases means a ruined battery.
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <ericsC5Hzr5.EuI@netcom.com> erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith) writes:
>Yeah, the Phillies played over their heads almost the whole year,
>but it all caught up to them in one 10-game streak. I *am* as old as
>1964 (man!) and I was a big Phillies fan at the time (age 13).
.
.
.
>the Dodgers or somebody else finish two games back? That has to be
>one of the closest last minute scrambles ever.
Since I was born in the late Pleistocene, I too remember 1964. That year,
the Dodgers were several games out of first and I think finished sixth in the
league. This was kind of odd because they won the World Series both the
previous year and the following year.
--
Warren Usui
I'm one with the Universe -- on a scale from 1 to 10.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1r4bfe$7hg@aurora.engr.LaTech.edu>, ray@engr.LaTech.edu (Bill
Ray) wrote:
>
> James Thomas Green (jgreen@trumpet.calpoly.edu) wrote:
>
> :
> : So in conclusion it can be shown that there is essentially no
> : logical argument which clearly differentiates a "cult" from a
> : "religion". I challenge anyone to produce a distinction which
> : is clear and can't be easily knocked down.
>
> How about this one: a religion is a cult which has stood the test
> of time.
Or a religion is a cult that got co-opted by people who are better at
compartmentalizing their irrationality.
Peter
Don't forget to sing:
They say there's a heaven for those who will wait
Some say it's better, but I say it ain't
I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
The sinners are much more fun
Only the good die young!
| 0alt.atheism |
I can't think of another subject that generates as much contradictory
advice as traffic laws and their enforcement. Everybody's got an
opinion and is dead certain they are right. Yet acurate information is
extremely difficult to come by. The DMV doesn't know. Cops don't
know. Your traffic school instructor doesn't know. The vehicle code
only tells part of the story. Judges choose to interpret the laws in a
wide variety of ways. And the public at large? I seldom hear any
advice that doesn't disagree with something I've experienced.
If you don't believe me I suggest you get a copy of the vehicle code,
study it, and then sit in on a day or two of court and see what really
happens. Read "Fight Your Ticket" too, but don't miss the little
section at the end where it says your chances are lousy and you're
basically screwed.
As you may have guessed, I'm pretty down on the system here in
California. I've carefully prepared for court, bringing witnesses and
revealing serious holes in the officer's story, only to be slapped with
the maximum allowable fine (plus assessments of over 100%) - the
message clear that the judge does not appreciate John Q Public trying
his own cases.
So here's my advice when you find yourself with a ticket: Take traffic
school if you can. If it's a serious matter get a lawyer. A lawyer
can present the exact same case as you, the difference is the
sentence.
--
Paul Thompson Apple Computer
| 8rec.motorcycles |
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Apr 1993 04:30:27 GMT, kckluge@eecs.umich.edu (Karl Kluge) said:
KK> (Shaun P. Hughes) writes:
KK> Newsgroups: sci.crypt
KK> From: sphughes@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Shaun P. Hughes)
KK> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 07:18:59 GMT
[..]
KK> Just a random passing thought, but can anyone cite a documented use
KK> of encryption technology by criminals and terrorists.
KK> (Excluding the Iran-Contra Gang)
KK> Sure, the rum-runners in Prohibition. See Kahn's _The Codebreakers_.
KK> The irony was, they were using better codes and key security than
KK> most governments were.
And Fidel Castro / Che Guerra - they used one time pads, I think. It was in an Scientific American article about Quantum Cryptography.
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <May.12.04.26.55.1993.9901@athos.rutgers.edu>, dozier@utkux1.utk.edu (Anni Dozier) writes:
|> After reading the posts on this newsgroup for the pasts 4 months, it
|> has become apparent to me that this group is primarily active with
|> Liberals, Catholics, New Agers', and Athiests. Someone might think
|> to change the name to: soc.religion.any - or - perhaps even
|> soc.religion.new. It might seem to be more appropriate.
|> Heck, don't flame me, I'm Catholic, gay, and I voted
|> for Bill Clinton. I'm on your side!
My sentiments exactly... which is why I'm unsubbing from this group.
This is the 3rd 'christian' discussion list I have ever belonged to
and once again I'm being chased away by the strife, anger, discontent,
lies, et al .
As Paul (Saul) said, 'I come to preach Christ, and Him crucified'
Don't let the simple beauty of faith in God get overshadowed by heady
theological discussions or thousands of lines of post-incarnation
trappings of some church.
As for the atheists/agnostics who read this list: if you aren't
christian and if you have no intention of ever becoming one why on
earth do you waste your time and mine by participating on a christian
discussion list ?
I will continue to search for christian discussion (prayerful, spirit-filled,
kind, humble, patient, etc.) in other circles.
--
Sheila Patterson, CIT CR-Technical Support Group
315 CCC - Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853
(607) 255-5388
[I'm afraid that any discussion group containing people with different
views tends to turn into arguments about the largest differences
present. So talk.religion.misc spends a lot of time on
Christian/atheist arguments, soc.religion.christian spends a lot of
time on arguments among different christian groups, and the bitnet
Catholic group spends a lot of time on arguments between conservative
and liberal Catholics. Personally I would prefer to have a set of
somewhat more specialized groups, at least as an alternative. Liberal
and conservative Protestant and Catholic would handle most of the
traffic, though there are certainly significant groups (e.g.
Orthodox). Of course it may be that most of our readers like the
arguments. I certainly find it painful moderating them. --clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <C4wKBp.B9w@eskimo.com>, maven@eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) writes:
> What is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling? Couple hours
> after you "feel" sober? What? Or should I just work with "If I drink
> tonight, I don't ride until tomorrow"?
1 hr/drink for the first 4 drinks.
1.5 hours/drink for the next 6 drinks.
2 hours/drink for the rest.
These are fairly cautious guidelines, and will work even if you happen to
have a low tolerance or body mass.
I think the cops and "Don't You Dare Drink & Drive" (tm) commercials will
usually say 1hr/drink in general, but after about 5 drinks and 5 hrs, you
could very well be over the legal limit.
Watch yourself.
-Mike
________________________________________________
/ Mike Muise / mjmuise@1302.watstar.uwaterloo.ca \ no quotes, no jokes,
\ Electrical Engineering, University of Waterloo / no disclaimer, no fear.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>Cup holders (driving is an importantant enough undertaking)
This is a good idea - so you can carry your (non-alcoholic) drinks without
spilling or having someone hold on to them.
>Cellular phones and mobile fax machines (see above)
Fax machines, yes. Cellular phones: Why not get a hands-free model?
>Fake convertible roofs and vinyl roofs.
Seemingly unique to American luxury cars. The Big Three haven't yet realized
that the 1970s are over.
>Any gold trim.
I agree. Just another display of Yuppie excess.
>Jon Dunn<
| 7rec.autos |
In <C5JxBA.2Gq@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu writes:
> In <1993Apr15.074615.957@abo.fi> MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mats Andtbacka)
> writes:
>>In <C5Hr14.Jxw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lis450bw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>> My definition of objective would be absolute, or fixed, rather than
>>> subjective, or varying and changing.
>>
>> Inotherwords, any moral system (that _is_ still what we're talking
>>about, right?) can be 'objective', provided you stick to it no matter
>>what? Doesn't sound good to me, stifles progress.
>
> I hold that an objective moral system exists regardless of my knowledge or
> application of it. I relate it to the idea that there is scientific truth
> that is truth even though I may not know about it.
Aha; this would put the definition much closer to the moral
absolutism I'm more aquainted to debating.
> Some morals I wouldn't want to change, and would not consider it progress
> for a society to oneday say that rape and murder are ok.
We all agree that it's rather unlikely (as the definitions of
"rape" and "murder" are tied to the definitions of "evil", more like
impossible, actually); but what if some society, someday, actually hit
on a good, sound reason for _why_ rape and murder should be moral?
> Some underlying themes (morality, honesty, courage, respect, etc.) are
> used to base actions. I don't consider the idea that we should have
> been moral, should be moral now, and should be so in the future a
> limitation, when it includes such morality.
I don't quite parse this, but you seem to be saying, "absolute
morals are defensible, insofar as we consider them good". Which, of
course, is correct; but then you need an absolute definition of "good".
> Aberrances in a moral system, i.e. it is immoral to marry
> someone of the opposite sex, it is immoral to listen to rock and roll, etc.
Hang on - what's an "aberrance in a moral system"?
Do you mean "moral codes that seem useless or bad", perchance? But your
judgement of what exactly is 'useless' and/or 'bad' is your own opinion;
subjective, not objective.
> [...] if specific actions are given
> moral status I tend to question those morals.
Me too, and add in all unmotivated morals and laws as well.
> MAC
--
Disclaimer? "It's great to be young and insane!"
| 19talk.religion.misc |
A few questions for Janet Reno:
Why don't you think generals have any place in law enforcement?
If the ATF/FBI had proof that Koresh was:
A child molester
A child abuser
A wife abuser
Bigamist
Sexual Deviant (not a crime in all 50 states, yet)
As well as
Illegally modify weapons
Why wasn't he simply arrested during one of his morning jogs? Why did
the allegations of child/wife/sex crimes only come out after the Branch
Davidians repelled the initial assualt?
Was it because it became necessary to demonize David Koresh? Do you
feel responsible for the deaths of over 80 people? How many would be alive to
day if Koresh had been arrested outside the compound?
Inquiring minds want to know.
[Although Janet was installed after the siege began, her purge of the
justice dept. leaves only her people in charge.]
Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
sam@ms.uky.edu (Mike Mills) writes:
>Hello,
>I just recently bought a NEC 6FG. In order to get the highest possible quality
>and refresh rates, I'd like to know if there are any accelerator cards with
>BNC connectors (as opposed to the usual d-sub connector)?
I do not know of any "VGA" type cards that have BNC outputs but, EXTRON
sells a VGA to BNC cable set that works good with my 5FG. If you are
trying to optimize the display with a good video card try contacting #9,
@ 1-800-get-nine. I use and like the level 9 card.
>Thanks for any information,
>--
>--Mike Mills E-Mail: sam@ms.uky.edu, {rutgers, uunet}!ukma!sam
>--UK Math Sciences Dept. mike@ukpr.uky.edu
>--(606) 257-1429 (work) 263-0721 (home)
--
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& marlow@world.std.com &
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr8.195853.10650@midway.uchicago.edu> as16@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>My question to you all is why does the media seem to embrace the theme of the
>death of baseball so strongly? I have seen articles of a similar vein in
>the Chicago Tribune and in sports editorials on tv.
Maybe because baseball is the only business where those who are
responsible for the fiscal aspects of the game preach gloom and doom.
These allegedly intelligent people seem to predict bad times, losing
money, bankruptcies at an alarming rate, and there's going to be an
increased degradation of the product they produce. Could you imagine
IBM, with all their problems, promoting themselves the way Major League
Baseball does? Their stock would plummet to unthinkable depths (not
that they are too far from it now :-). What would happen at GM? Where
would GM be if they admitted to cutting corners and producing an
inferior product because of alleged labor problems? I think it shows a
lack of confidence for the people who run the game.
>Anyway, it just frustrates me when the media says such things, because it
>inevitably leads to owners trying quick fixes like increasing play-offs to
>satisfy television or trying interleague play to drum up interest.
Forget it. Word has it three divisions with a wild card is just about
a done deal. It has to be decided soon since negotiations with the
networks also have to begin soon.
--
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scott@asd.com | mail mets-request@asd.com <<!
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In <C5q0HK.KoD@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> ricky@watson.ibm.com (Rick Turner) writes:
>Look in the /pub/SPACE directory on ames.arc.nasa.gov - there are a number
>of earth images there. You may have to hunt around the subdirectories as
>things tend to be filed under the mission (ie, "APOLLO") rather than under
>the image subject.
>
For those of you who don't need 24 bit, I got a 32 colour Amiga IFF
of a cloudless Earth (scanned). Looks okay when mapped on a sphere.
E-mail me and I'll send it you...
Louis
--
I'm hanging on your words, Living on your breath, Feeling with your skin,
Will I always be here? -- In Your Room [ DM ]
| 1comp.graphics |
1990 Mazda 626 DX $6000 or best offer
NADA blue book: $9075 - $2175 for mileage = $6900
e-mail or call Ron at (908)805-2248 (work) or (908)454-9337 (home)
* 92,000 miles, all highway (I used to commute 160 miles/day)
* 5 speed
* Air Conditioning
* AM/FM/Cassette stereo
* split fold-down rear seat
* 2.2 liter, 12 valve, fuel injected engine
* roomy interior, comfy back seats, big trunk
* well maintained - oil and filter every 3,000 - 4,000, other maintanence
as scheduled. Except for the timing belt which still looks new.
I did slip and went 5,000 miles without changing the oil once.
* tires have 20,000 miles, lots of life left (probably 30,000 to 40,000)
* front brake job at 84,000, back brakes are still good
* engine/trans/drive train in perfect condition - everything works,
nothing needs replacing, next tune up scheduled at 120,000
* body is good - left tail light is cracked (I'm trying to find a used
one - dealer wants $172!), two long scratches and a ding on the
hood (vandalism?), a bunch of stone chips on the front of the
hood. Official Mazda touch up paint included in the deal.
This car is extremely reliable, even better than the Toyota Corolla it
replaced. Besides the tires, brakes and maintanence items, the only other
parts that have been replaced are the headlight bulbs.
Selling because my wife refuses to drive a car without an automatic trans.
And she wants a station wagon with a sun roof, etc, etc.
--
Ron DeBlock rdb1@homxb.att.com (that's a number 1 in rdb1, not letter l)
AT&T Bell Labs Somerset, NJ USA
| 6misc.forsale |
There are many people want to buy my Kodak autofocus carousel projectors
but I don't have lenses or remote to sell. They prefer to buy a projector
with all accessaries. So I have to post another news asking for lenses
to fit those Kodak slide projectors:
I am willing to give away Singer Caramate II or Singer Caramete SP (
w/ built-in unremovable lens, built-in casette player, speaker, new 500 HR
bulb) try to trade for Kodak projector lenses.
Each projector (viewer) will equal trade for 1 or 2 Kodak projector lenses
depend on the focal length. I will pay for the shipping for Singer
projector (viewer).
Since I don't need those Singer projectors, if you have some 35mm SLR system
you don't need, I am willing to do the trade as well.
Yuesea
| 6misc.forsale |
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Rabin and his Palestinians kapos
Rabin's plans for a Palestinian police
(from The Other Front, Alternative Information Center,
Jerusalem, 5 May 1993)
"The decision to view the setting up of a local police force
for (sic) the Palestinians as the central issue for
deliberation at the peace talks to be resumed next week -
even before subjects like elections in the territories and
areas of juridiction in the framework of autonomy - is a
sign of the Israeli government's serious attitude towards
the peace process.
"The setting up of a police force is not part of the 'gesture
package', but deals with the very heart and substance of
the Palestinian struggle for national identity. As it turns
out, the main objective guiding the prime minister in the
setting up of a Palestinian police force - and apparently
also supported by Foreign Minister Shimon Peres - is to
ensure the holding of democratic elections in the
territories."
Thus writes Amnon Barzilai in his editorial (Israeli daily
Hadashot, 23 April), and his position articulates the
thinking of most of the commentators who dealt with this
issue in the past two weeks. Over against them stand the
settlers and rightwing parties, who also interpret the
decision to encourage the establishment of a Palestinian
police force as a significant step towards the instituting of
real autonomy, something which will restrict what can be
done by the Jewish settlers in the West Bank and Gaza
Strip. With a variety of demonstrations, including street
theater on 'What will happen when there is a Palestinian
police force', rightwing elements are attempting to
frighten the Israeli public and to pressure Rabin to go
back on his decision. Members of the Kach movement
have even begun to organize a 'settler police force' in the
Occupied Territories, as counter-balance to the future
Palestinian police force.
However, as Barzilai points out, the main function of the
new police force - as far as the Israeli government is
concerned - has nothing to do with the settlers, over
whom they will apparently have no authority, but will
control political groups within the Palestinian population,
whom the government is interested in neutralizing.
Writes Barzilai:
"...According to ideas currently taking shape, the setting
up of a local police force in the territories will precede,
not only the stage of electsion, but also the final stages of
the preparing of the interim autonomy agreement.
"The willingness of the Israeli government to set up a
local Palestinian police force is evidence that the
government is serious about arriving at a settlement with
the Palestinians..."
It's no wonder that the Palestinian public is also greatly
worried about this new Israeli initiative. And it is
inevitable that pressure will be brought to bear on Faisal
Husseini and the rest of the delegation members, from a
variety of directions, to refuse the gift which Rabin would
like to give them. But at this stage, it looks like the
Palestinians are cooperating in the fulfillment of his
plans.
----------------------------------------------------
Add'l comment by E.D.:
Numerous Palestinians fear that Israel might succeed in
co-opting some Palestinian
circles by this idea. They fear that a Palestinian police
force, controlled in fact by Israel, might act even more
brutally than the IDF. The idea of using a surrogate police
force is not new. It is used by Israel in Lebanon and was
used by the Nazis to control Jewish ghetto-dwellers.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr23.155215.2838@chpc.utexas.edu> ivab015@chpc.utexas.edu (Albert Wu) writes:
>I went to a place called American Car Care Centers to check my car for A/C
>leak. After "checking", I was told that there is a leak in the compressor
>seal. At the end, in addition to the labor for the check, I was charged 12
>dollars for a pound of freon, although they evacuated my A/C afterwards
>because of the leak. First, is it fair for him to charge me for a pound of
>freon ($12 plus tax) ? Second, what can I do about this if this is unfair ?
>
>-- Albert Wu.
For the information of those not "lucky" enough to live in the city of
Austin, TX, if an auto a/c system is checked and found to have leaks,
it must be repaired at that time, or evacuated. This is an ordinance
unique (I think) to the city of Austin.
Freon is subject to increasing taxes, but $12 is about 2X cost here.
Recovered freon is not required to be "purchased" from the car it is
withdrawn from. As a matter of practice, some shops here are charging
a recycling fee that is less than the cost of the freon removed if it
is reintroduced to the system.
Just another quality service from an _Enviornmentally Conscious_ city.
--
Rick Kirchhof Austin, Texas | Experience is what you
Domain: rick@posms.aus.tx.us | get when you don't
Bang path: .....!cfi.org!posms!rick | get what you want.
===========================================================================
| 7rec.autos |
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Arab H.R. Assoc.,Nazareth
The Arab Association for Human Rights
P.O. Box 215
Nazareth, 16101 Israel
Phone (972)-6-561923
Fax (972)-6-564934
The Arab Association for Human Rights (HRA) was
formed in 1988 to address discriminatory practices and
human rights abuses by Israel against its Palestinian
citizens.
It is a unique association concerned with the civil,
political, economic, social and cultural rights of the
Palestinian national minority in Israel. Among the issues
of concern are land confiscation, education, prison
conditions, unemployment, torture and the unequal
allocation of Israel's resources.
Today there are around 800,000 Palestinian Arabs living
within the Green line (the pre-1967 borders of Israel),
constituting 18% of Israel's citizens. For them it is an
empty citizenship in a system geared exclusively for the
needs of the Jewish population. Legally and practically,
Israel has proclaimed itself a Jewish state and early
promises of equality for non-Jewish citizens have not
been fulfilled. This is apparent in many areas strongly
affecting the Palestinian national minority.
Most Arab agricultural land has been confiscated since
1948. The Arab sector is vastly underfunded and does
not receive a fair share of state resources. On a day-to-
day level, Palestinians face discrimination in many
different forms and find it is a struggle to get permission
to build a house, start a business, find a job or educate
their children.
ACTIVITIES
- Monitoring civil, economic, cultural and human rights
abuses of Palestinians within the Green Line.
- Taking carefully selected test cases to court.
- Providing legal advice and assistance to lawyers in the
Occupied Territories.
- Educating the Palestinian public as to their rights and
methods of mobilization.
- Conducting public campaigns on local and international
levels.
- Researching and publishing pertinent publications.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
To make room for Harkey, the Cubs sent Shawn Boskie down to AAA.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <MJMUISE.38.733926270@1302.watstar.uwaterloo.ca> MJMUISE@1302.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Muise) writes:
>
>1 hr/drink for the first 4 drinks.
>1.5 hours/drink for the next 6 drinks.
>2 hours/drink for the rest.
In my case it goes down after the first four, because the fifth one usually
makes me throw up the last two.
Needless to say, I don't drink very much anymore, as the last time that
happened was in the second year of my undergrad. I was a silly .edu breath,
and pretty bad breath at that.
I've bike like | Jody Levine DoD #275 kV
got a you can if you -PF | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
ride it | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Sketch: Rotate so cylinder axis is || Z axis.
Intersect X/Y projection of line with projected cylinder (similar to,
but easier than, sphere intersection). Result: no intersection, one
intersection, or two intersections, parameterized along line by t0 and
t1. Now look at Z, and compute intersections of line with top and
bottom planes of cylinder. This gives t0' and t1'. The interval of
intersection is then the bit of the line from [t0,t1] INTERSECT [t0',t1'].
Details left as an exercise for the reader.
=S
--
=Spencer W. Thomas | Info Tech and Networking, B1911 CFOB, 0704
"Genome Informatician" | Univ of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI 48109
Spencer.W.Thomas@med.umich.edu | 313-764-8065, FAX 313-764-4133
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <16BB89B12.LMARSHA@cms.cc.wayne.edu> LMARSHA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Laurie Marshall) writes:
>In article <1993Apr22.133739.11317@mks.com>
>chuck@mks.com (Chuck Lownie) writes:
>>In last nights game Toronto received FIVE penalties, Detroit none. If
>>--
>>
>
> Which game were you watching? Didn't you see the third period when
>the Wings had 2 penalties called on them and then a delayed penalty?
>The Leafs had a 2 man advantage for about a minute and a 1 man advantage
>for another minute or two and the Leafs still couldn't score.
> And I wonder how the Leafs scored a powerplay goal if, according
>to you, they never had a powerplay.
> In the Detroit paper today, it said there were 40 penalties called in
>last night's game. And you're saying Detroit had none of those penalties?
>I'm guessing you only watched the first period. I have to admitt the Leafs
>did get alot of penalties in that period where as the Wings didn't get
>many if any at all (Haven't looked at the box scores yet). But, the
>ref more than made up for it in the third period.
>
>Laurie Marshall
>Wayne State University
>Detroit, Michigan
>Go Wings!!!
My apologies for the typo - I meant the Wings had 5 power plays in the
first period and the Leafs none.
As well, my point isn't that the refs were biased, just that they were
calling a lot of penalties, which works to the benefit of the Wings.
Having the ref call a whole bunch of penalties against one team then
calling a bunch against the other to "make up for it" takes a lot away
from what could have been a great game.
--
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <C5L184.Jo9@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes:
|
|> > Wonderful, now try alittle imaginative thinking!
|>
|> Huh? Imaginative thinking? What did that have to do with what I said? Would it
|> have been better if I said the world has existed forever and never was created
|> and has an endless supply of energy and there was spontaneous generation of
|> life from non-life? WOuld that make me all-wise, and knowing, and imaginative?
|>
|> MAC
|>
It would not have made you better, but at least the argument is more believable
than a giant fairy with a big wand ;)!
Adda
|> --
|> ****************************************************************
|> Michael A. Cobb
|> "...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois
|> class to pay for my programs." Champaign-Urbana
|> -Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
|>
|> With new taxes and spending cuts we'll still have 310 billion dollar deficits.
--
+-------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| Adda Wainwright | Does dim atal y llanw! 8o) |
| eczcaw@mips.nott.ac.uk | 8o) Mae .sig 'ma ar werth! |
+-------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr15.162719@staff.dccs.upenn.edu>, filinuk@staff.dccs.upenn.edu (Geoff Filinuk) writes:
] Anyone who really believes that the Caps can beat
> the Pens are kidding themselves. The Pens may not loose
> one game in the playoffs.
Let's be honest. The Pens may not 'loose' one game as you
put it, but they will definitely lose one game. Remember,
the regular season doesn't mean much when it comes to
playoff time. The Caps have a shot at least - the Flyers
sure don't
Frank Salvatore
fmsalvat@eos.ncsu.edu
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <115713@bu.edu>, uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes:
> More than shocking. What this says to me is no less than that
> government is very interested in monitoring the public. This does more
> than scare me, it mortifies me.
If this is any surprise to you, *I'm* shocked.
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
| 11sci.crypt |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <2BD4A8F4.21802@news.service.uci.edu> tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
>In article <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes:
>>Now that Big Brother has rubbed out one minority religion in Waco, who is
>>next? The Mormons or Jews?
>>We used to live in a country where everyone enjoyed the free exercise of
>>their rights to worship and bear arms. Now we don't.
>>Of course, to Jews and Mormons this is just a broken record. It has
>>happened before.
>>I'll bet all you cult haters are happy now, right? Just hope you're not next.
>I like how, as you make a point, you breeze over *any* responsibility Koresh
>may have had in the deaths (of the agents and/or of the cult followers- the
>children) and blithely ignor the *reality* that some cults ***are*** very
>dangerous and harmful to followers/to any that they judge "in their w".
For you, or the government, or anyone else to say what is dangerous or
harmful to the followers is direct interference in religion; it has been
used quite improperly even when nothing as drastic as Waco has happened.
No evidence has been presented that the Davidians have engaged in any
activities harmful to others before the actions of the BATF. On this
morning's news, there was an item about the BATF warrant being unsealed.
That they bought $200,000 worth of LEGAL weapons has not been denied by
anyone. When they were accused of harming others in the past, the local
sherriff had no problems in serving a warrant; our rights as free people
were violated by the BATF going in shooting.
This country was founded on the superiority of the rights of the individual.
Remember Pastor Niemoller's remarks.
--
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)
{purdue,pur-ee}!snap.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
| 19talk.religion.misc |
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
paull@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Robert Paull) writes:
>Mr. Nice Guy (rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
>: The Branch Davidians were not violent and were not planning to start
>: violence.
>:
>: When the BD compound was assaulted by the ATF the BD did fire back.
>: But they agreed to a cease fire and they allowed the ATF to care for
>: their wounded. The BD even released the ATF agents they captured. It
>: is clear from the release of the agents and allowing the ATF medical
>: attention that the BD were not looking for trouble.
> This is the first I've heard of the BD capturing and releasing ATF agents.
>Is there any more info about this?
>Rob P.
It was filmed the day of the first assault. The BDs clearly allowed the
BATF agents who were shot and wounded to leave the compound. The
lesson, I suppose is that you should keep shooting untill ALL the pigs
are dead and then get the fuck outa dodge. Never give a pig an even
break.
Seeeeee Ya turmoil@halcyon.com FUCK THE POLICE!!!!
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I was posting to Alt.locksmithing about the best methods for securing
a motorcycle. I got several responses referring to the Cobra Lock
(described below). Has anyone come across a store carrying this lock
in the Chicago area?
Any other feedback from someone who has used this?
Thanks for any info.,
Steve
In article 1r1534INNraj@shelley.u.washington.edu, basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>
> Incidentally, the best lock I've found for bikes is the Cobra Lock.
> It's a cable which is shrouded by an articulated, hardened steel sleeve.
> The lock itself is cylindrical and the locking pawl engages the joints
> at the articulation points so the chain can be adjusted (like handcuffs).
> You can't get any leverage on the lock to break it open and the cylinder
> is well-protected. I wouldn't want to cut one of these without a torch
> and/or a vice and heavy duty cutting wheel.
>
---
Steve Bunis, Sun Microsystems ***DoD #0795*** 93-ST1100
Itasca, IL ***AMA #682049*** 78-KZ650
| 8rec.motorcycles |
aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelin Aldridge) writes:
I decided to come back and amend this so it quotes me and has added
comments...
>heart@access.digex.com (G) writes:
>>Hi,
>>it started to hurt when I lay on my right side, and then it hurt
>>no matter what position I was in. Next, I noticed that when I
>>ate greasy or fatty foods I felt like my entire abdomen had
>>turned to stone, and the pain in the area got worse. However if
>>I ate sauerkraut or vinegar or something to 'cut' the fat it
>>wasn't as much of a problem.
>>So the doctor says I have cholistatis, and that I should avoid
>>fatty foods. This makes sense, and because I was already aware
>>of what seemed to me this cause and effect relationship I have
>>been avoiding these foods on my own. But I'm still able to eat
>>foods with Ricotta cheese for instance and other low fat foods.
>>But doc wants me to be on a non-fat diet. This means no meat
>>except fish and chicken w/o skin (I do this anyway). No nuts,
>>fried food, cheese etc. I am allowed skim milk. She said I
>>should avoid anything sweet (e.g. bananas). Also I must only
>>have one serving of something high in carbohydrates a day (
>>potatoes, pasta, rice)! She said I can't even cook vegetables in
>>a little bit of oil and that I should eat vegetables raw or
>>steamed. I'm concerned because I understand you need to have
>>some fat in your diet to help in the digestive process. And if
>>G
>For one week, she probably wants to see how you react to the diet. If it
>changes anything.
>You can live on the diet but you need to up your non-fat calories. Where
before you had a pat of butter, now you need a medium apple (probably microwave
>cooked). Smaller meals but more of them. Not terrific amounts of meat, it's
>hard to digest anyway. First, even fish, fowl and breads have fat. Second,
the body will make fat out of carbohydrates if it needs them. Third, your
body, like most peoples, wasn't bred to live on a high fat, modern diet.
If you read texts about ancient and primative people you will read about
the luxury of eating fat, how people enjoyed it. This was because it was so
rare. Even cows didn't put out nearly the amount of butterfat in milk that
they do now.
>For comfort and to make the carbohydrate meal "last" longer eat pasta or
>rice which give their calories up slowly rather than bread or corn. Maybe
>smaller meals as you may be getting less room in the stomach area. Is the
>baby still coming up. Is it starting to push or rub under your ribs? How
>tight are your clothes. You shouldn't be wearing any clothing that compresses
>your middle. Be sure not to "suck in" your stomach when sitting, again it
>will put pressure on the digestive tract.
>Try laying on your sides, back,
>and stay in reclining positions for the many hours you are being inactive.
>Easier on your legs (circulation) as well. You might try letting the baby
>"turn" or at least not be forced under the ribs during the last months.
>When you are shortwaisted it's easy for that baby to end up right under the
>diaphram, especially if you have tight abdominal muscles. If I had my
>second one to do over again I think I'd have tried to loosen up since he
>didn't turn sideways until late and the relief was enormous.
>Maybe this doctor does have a thing about weight gain in pregnancy or maybe
>she just nags all her patients this way. Especially if she's young.
>But this gallbladder/whatever problem that might be coming up is something
>to be avoided if possible. You don't want to become ill with it while you
are pregnant. If you are lucky you can work on getting rid of it after the
baby. (It is said that doctors have less gallbadder surgery than the rest
of the population, a good part of it is that they are willing to do the
dieting, etc that helps them avoid surgery. Also, I don't think the surgery
lets a person go back to eating a high fat diet. )
>Nausea, etc. can vary from person to person and with each pregnancy. My
>first pregnancy was miserable. During the second I had very little trouble.
>Some articles have said that women with nausea had a statistically better
>chance of carrying their baby. (grain of salt here)
>Good luck
>-Jackie-
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr5.211457.12789@ole.cdac.com> ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate) writes:
> How do you take off the driver side door panel from the inside
>on an '87 Honda Prelude? The speaker went scratchy, and I want
>to access its pins.
>
There is something going on here. It seems that once a month, the VW
group must have get a specific detailed question about Hondas. I
would like to ask that next month we get one about Hyundai instead of
Honda. Thank you.
-andy
| 7rec.autos |
In article <15427@optilink.com> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>
>In article <C5K5LC.CyF@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, lfoard@hopper.Virginia.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>> In article <15378@optilink.com> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
># #From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2:
># #
># # Male sex survey: Gay activity low
># #
># # A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough
># # examination of American men's sexual practices published since
># # the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2
># # percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and
># # 1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual.
># #
># # The figures on homosexuality in the study released Wednesday
># # by the Alan Guttmacher Institute are significantly lower than
># # the 10 percent figure that has been part of the conventional
># # wisdom since it was published in the Kinsey report.
>#
># 1) So what?
>
>Homosexuals lie about the 10% number to hide the disproportionate
>involvement of homosexuals in child molestation.
Put up or shut up. Where is your evidence?
Show a study indicating a link between liking >>GROWN UPS<< of the same
sex and liking children. Saying that 30% of molested children are male
shows nothing since it tells you nothing of the molesters preference
in adults (if they have any at all).
>They also lie
>about "10%" to keep politicians scared.
The politicians will have plenty to be scared of in one week be it 1% or
90%.
># 2) It will be interesting to see the reaction when 2.5million queers
># gather in Washington DC. After all if there are only 6million of
># us then this is an event unprecidented in history...
>
>But many of the people who will be marching aren't homosexuals, but
>other members of the leftist agenda.
I'm sure there will be a few non queers, but the vast majority are
queer.
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <kingoz.735066879@camelot> kingoz@camelot.bradley.edu (Orin Roth) writes:
>
> Well, officially it's the Braves. At least up until they started winning
> it was. Are they still, officially?
> If so, why? and how did they receive this label?
Probably because everyone (that is, everyone who has cable) can watch
every Braves game. They are the only team that has all of its games
broadcast nationwide. And if you don't like your local team, or you don't
have a local team, the Braves can kind of become your local team because
you can watch them every day.
--I'm outta here like Vladimir!
-Alan
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| "What's this? This is ice. This is what happens to water when it gets |
| too cold. This? This is Kent. This is what happens to people when |
| they get too sexually frustrated." |
| -Val Kilmer, "Real Genius" |
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Hello Forrest:
I noticed your recent posting regarding crashes of the Duo 230. At the
present I own a PB100 and a IIsi. I had been contemplating selling both and
geting a 230. Based upon your experiences would you make that
recommendation?
This is the first time I had heard of any problems with the Duo. Is this the
norm. Have you been able to work around the problems?
Thanks for responding!
************************
Reply to Donald Lyles *
Internet: dcl@his.com *
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
v140pxgt@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Daniel B Case) writes:
>gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes...
>>>>Again, they can't force a private entity to spring to life to pay them.
>>>
>>>So the government, by sheer economic force, has basically cleared the
>>>basic-care market for itself. The only way to test this would be for
>>>some really daring person to start up, from scratch, in Alberta and/or
>>>Quebec, a health insurance company offering basic care.
>>>
>>>Crazy? Yes, but that's almost how MCI got started.
>>
>>However, the concept of risks is well known by insurance actuaries
>>and no private firm can get the kind of amortization that the public
>>pools can get. And since health insurance gets spent, that doesn't
>>sit well with the insurance CEO's ... and you get a situation like
>>in the U.S. where rates keep going up to catch up.
>
>See what I mean? It's a government monopoly.
Sure ... because it's a non-market phenomenom and the free market
can't solve it. Even our private insurance says that ....
>>And remember ... last year Quebec proposed giving the least risky
>>parts of basic care to the private sector ... and they balked.
>
>Like you said...why should they?
.... and wants no part of it.
>>>By your own arguments, if you don't want the provincial plan,
>>>you're basically up a creek.
>>
>>Yes ... but in our culture, arguing against it is like arguing
>>for national defence by means of warlords.
>
>True. According to polls I've read (usually in the sort of simpleminded
>stuff you were initally responding to) something like 60% of Americans
>would like Canadian-style health care, whereas only 3% of Canadians
>would like it our way. I'd be interested to know why there are that
>many (3% of Canada's population is about a million or so people).
Canada is saturated by American media. While pundits come on cable
and talk about how awful our health care is supposed to be, what
people experience up north ends up not differing from what they see
portrayed on American television in movies (i.e., same infrastructure,
different insurance make-up). Yet they know not of any insurance
problems, and have no idea of what an HMO is ... but having lots of
British TV as well, they know that they don't like NHS.
>Someone must have a reason to argue against it, valid or not-what
>kind of people are they?
The polls that you refer to, for the Canadian data, are from the
annual July 1st polls conducted for Macleans (our major English
newsmagazine) by Decima Research ... Decima president Allen Gregg is
considered one of the world's top poll researchers, and Mulroney's
Conservatives have relied on him to keep in power in the face of
impossible election situations. The American polls are Harris polls,
and have been reposted on USENET a few times and probably will again.
I'm sorta suspicious myself, 'cos maybe Americans want universal
coverage like Canada --- I honestly doubt that most Americans realize
that we have private doctors and public and private hospitals (i.e.,
similiar health care infrastructure) and our "system" is basically
pure insurance without HMO's.
>>Given recent turnarounds by the HIAA (endorsing universal coverage)
>>and hostility to corporatist HMO's within the AMA, and the complete
>>silence vis a vis Canada-bashing by the AMA, I suspect that they're
>>keeping the "secret" about Canada up their sleeve.
>
>Exactly. Wouldn't you?
Until the idea of managed competition arose, there was no direct
threat to stand-alone private practice. In the 1960's, the AMA
fought HMO's as corporatized socialist medicine ... part of the
reason why we have only insurance, and no HMO's in Canada 'cos
that was part of the deal cut with the CMA.
>>>I've also read that the three biggest American HMOs can be compared
>>>straight up against some of the smaller Canadian provinces (in the
>>>Maritimes) and they spend something like $300-500 less per patient.
>>>Maybe it does help.
>>
>>The American HMO's can still "cream" and they probably cover a smaller
>>geographic area than even our smallest provinces. Geography, again.
>
>Some of them are spread out across the whole country, I think.
But each site is probably compact, and the clientele are creamed.
And don't forget that HMO's place caps on your coverage, and often
won't tell you about additional procedures you could get otherwise
(despite that you might be willing to pay for it).
gld
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare
> gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1r46j3INN14j@mojo.eng.umd.edu> sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney) writes:
In article <STEINLY.93Apr20160116@topaz.ucsc.edu>, steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
>Very cost effective if you use the right accounting method :-)
Sherzer Methodology!!!!!!
Hell, yes. I'm not going to let a bunch of seven suits tell
me what the right way to estimate cost effectiveness is, at
least not until they can make their mind up long enough
to leave their scheme stable for a fiscal year or two.
Seriously though. If you were to ask the British government
whether their colonisation efforts in the Americas were cost
effective, what answer do you think you'd get? What if you asked
in 1765, 1815, 1865, 1915 and 1945 respectively? ;-)
* Steinn Sigurdsson Lick Observatory *
* steinly@lick.ucsc.edu "standard disclaimer" *
* If you ever have to go to Shoeburyness *
* Take the A-road, the ok road, that's the best! *
* Go motoring on The A13! - BB 1983 *
| 14sci.space |
Bill Coleman writes...
(responding to a discussion about a mosque in Jerusalem allegedly
having been destroyed by Israel)
BC> In today's Jerusalem Post Magazine there is a feature story about the
BC> ongoing restoration of synagogues in the Jewish Quarter. The author,
BC> Leah Abramowitz, writes that there were FIFTY-SEVEN synagogues in the
BC> quarter in 1948, ALL of which were destroyed, some, she says, used as
BC> donkey stables. The building shells, that is.
BC>
BC> I still find it really, really hard to understand why the demolition
BC> of the buildings in front of the Kotel continues to evoke more outrage
BC> than this. Everything is so much cheaper when it happens to the Jews.
BC>
BC> Why?
The double standard of human behavior regarding the Jews must
be manitained.
A perfect example is the outcry over the temporary removal of
400 men who advocated murdering Jews and destroying the State
of Israel, compared to the deafening silence over the abusive
treatment of Jews in Arab countries during the past 50 years.
Compare the tacit appoval that the world gives to Muslims who
randomly murder Jewish civilians to the righteous indignation
expressed if people in the occupied territories are kept from
working in Israel in an effort to reduce these random murders
from occuring, while everyone knows that no country is at all
required to accept foreign workers, except Israel, of course.
Jewish blood has always been cheap. The non-Jewish world ha
never regarded any form of Jewish suffering important, except
when the Jews were the models of the powerless victim holding
the high moral ground, as it had been just after World War 2.
However, as soon as the Jewish people started to take care of
themselves, the ancient hatred of Jews was unleashed again.
I doubt if the non-Jewish world is even capable of having any
compassion towards Jews as anti-semitism is so ancient and so
basic to both Christianity and Islam.
Golda Meir said that there would be peace when the Arabs love
their own children more than they hate the Jews. And while I
know that there are more Arab parents who love their children
than those who would send their children out into the streets
to throw rocks at men trained to defend themselves with guns,
the world is so obsessed by a hatred of Jews trying to defend
themselves that they have yet to even question the actions of
those parents who not simply allow their children to do this,
but encourage them to throw themselves into harm's way. Even
Arab children are expendable, if their tragic deaths are used
in the neverending propoganda battle to blame Israel, and the
Jews, for any misfortune befalling Arabs in the middle east.
* * * * * * *
Who is a Jew? A person whose integrity decays when unmoved by
the knowledge of wrong done to other people. - A. J. Heschel
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
The following items are for sale:
1) ONKYO TX-901/910 reciever/amplifier. Only 2 months old.
>PERFECT< condition. 45wpc (stereo), 4 speaker ability,
40 channel memory, has digital and direct tuning also.
Plus, it also have an earphone jack...
Bought for $350 new. Asking for no less than $250; best
offer gets it (obviously).
...PRICE DROPPED TO $230...
- No offers so far; what's the deal? No recievers needed? :(
2) Two ZEOS IBM-External keyboards. Under a month old, bought
for $90 each new; selling for $35 a piece, or $65 for both.
I pay shipping.
(SNES has been sold, and the CD player still hasn't been sold; if
you offer $170 or more, I will instantly send it to you...)
(ask for stats. on the CD player)
Yoshi.
yoshi@atlantis.cs.orst.edu
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <3702.204.uupcb@ssr.com>, dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick
Zeitlin) wrote:
>
> PK> .Perhaps we need the telephony equivalent of an anonymous remailer for
> > .the telephone network? Back in Prohibition days (alcohol, that is) I
> > .understand a device called the "cheesebox" was a popular means to thwart
> > .the tracing of telephone calls. It connected two phone lines in the back
> > .room of an otherwise uninvolved business. It was the conceptual predecesso
> > .of today's anonymous email remailer.
>
> The old "cheesebox" was the pre-Carterphone version of the "call
> diverter." After the Carterphone decision there were several vendors
> that sold call diverters. I've got a couple in my basement that
> were used to redirect my office phone to my home number when I
> didn't feel like going into the office.
>
> It'd be quite easy to generate an "anonymous redialer" version of the
> call diverter.
>
About 18 months ago, I heard a report on NPR about a 900-number
"1-900-STO-PPER" or some such, for placing untraceable calls.
You call them, and on "bong" tone dial the number you want to
call; they told the NPR interviewer that nothing short of a
court order (which they'd fight) would make them release their
records.
Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator;
the lab net pretends to work"
matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
| 11sci.crypt |
Is it possible to have 2 Sound Blasters in 1 machine?
Would give your the equivalent of a SB Pro but with stereo Digitized sound.
The way Creative Labs price Pro's in Oz, the price is equal.
I suppose you could set the I/O addresses to 220 and 240H
but what about the DMA channels?
Any way what is this DMA channel sharing hype? Does it share the
SB and hardisk DMA channels or something more esoteric?
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <15453@optilink.COM> walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh) writes:
#Really? I thought that insurance companies hired all of
#their actuarial staffs to determine the risks correlated
#with all groups of people, and that gays are more likely
#to have AIDS than are those of other sexual orientations.
Correlation != causality.
The risk factor is having non-monogomous unprotected sex, not being
homosexual.
--
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USPS Mail: Astronomy Department, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475 USA
Internet: gsh7w@virginia.edu
UUCP: ...!uunet!virginia!gsh7w
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I have uploaded the Windows On-Line Review shareware edition to
ftp.cica.indiana.edu as /pub/pc/win3/uploads/wolrs7.zip.
It is an on-line magazine which contains reviews of some shareware
products...I grabbed it from the Windows On-Line BBS.
--
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NCR Microelectronic Products Division VoicePlus 464-9289
2001 Danfield Court Greg.Reinacker@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Fort Collins, CO 80525
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <C5yBo4.E5I@vcd.hp.com> dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Gauge) writes:
>If you had free reign to design your own instrument cluster, which
>gauges would you choose to have beyond the basic set?
Oil Pressure, Oil Temperature
Coolant Temperature
Manifold Vacuum
Ammeter, Voltmeter
Fuel Pressure [maybe] (Problematic, since you either need an electronic
sensor/gauge pair or you have to mount the damn thing outside the car)
In addition, it'd be nice to have a big red idiot light 'Check Guages'
connected to Oil pressure, Oil Temp, Coolant Temp, Ammeter &
Voltmeter. With heaps of guages, it's hard to look at them all all
the time. In the case of oil pressure, for example, you want to know
right away if your oil pump goes bad, unlike coolant temperature, a
minute or two of 0 oil pressure would be A Very Bad Thing(tm).
Adam
--
Adam G.
adamg@microware.com, or ...!uunet!mcrware!adamg
The above is not to be construed in any way as the official or unofficial
statements of Microware, or any Microware employees.
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1993Apr25.165315.1190@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
>>(Deletion)
>>>"(God is) the One Who created the night, the day, the sun and the moon.
>>>Each is travelling in an orbit with its own motion." (Qur'an :33)
>>>
(Deletion)
>>Well, that is certainly different, but it looks as if there is a translation
>>found for everything. By the way, I am most surprised to hear that night and
>>day move in an orbit.
>
>I thought about this, too -- some translations refer to only the latter
>two objects being in orbit, but Bucaille's translation seems to indicate
>the night and the day travelling in "orbit" too. Perhaps this can be
>understood when one looks at it from the earth's reference frame -- from
>this reference frame, the day and the night would appear to "orbit" the
>earth (travelling from east to west). (This is from the reference frame
>when the earth is still.)
>
Well, yes, but that belongs in the other group, there is a interpretation
found for everything. However, allowing any form of interpretation reduces
the information of the text so interprteted to zero.
By the way, I have checked the quote and I think the lines preceding those
quoted above are more interesting:
21:32 where mountains are set on earth in order to immobilize the earth.
21:33 where the skies (heavens?) are referred to as well supported.
the lines given above are 21:34 after my edition.
>Maybe this is what is meant by the above....? It's just a possibility.
>
>>And that the sun travels in an orbit without saying that earth does, too,
>>sounds geocentric to me.
>
>I will see if I can find out more about this.
>
>But it is still not geocentric.
>
That sun and moon move and the earth is immobile sounds geocentric to me.
Benedikt
| 0alt.atheism |
I'm no Kingman fan. Just thought I'd point out that he's the
only player in history to have five three-HR games. Joe Carter
has four. Eddie Murray three. McCovey and Gehrig also three.
Ruth, Mays, Foxx and Dawson two each.
I don't think Reggie's WS game counts, else I believe he would
also have had two.
-- The Beastmaster
--
Mark Singer
mss@netcom.com
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr21.141824.23536@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>, jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) asked:
|>
|> Hello. I am looking for a program (or algorithm) that can be used
|> to compute sunrise and sunset times.
|>
|> I would appreciate any advice.
|>
|> Joe Wetstein
|> jpw@coe.drexel.edu
To compute this, and many other astronomical things, go and get (x)ephem written
by Elwood C. Downey. It is e.g. on export.lcs.mit.edu
Uwe Bonnes bon@lte.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
| 14sci.space |
In article <BADING.93Apr23105229@athene.cs.tu-berlin.de> bading@cs.tu-berlin.de (Tobias 'Doping' Bading) writes:
>
>I know that the mwm has an resource to specify if positions are to be used for
>the border of a window or for the "user" window. Maybe other window managers
>have similar options.
>Another way to figure out the difference between the "user" window position
>and the window manager decoration window position is to subtract their
>positions. You just have to use XQueryTree and remember that the window manager
>decorations window is the parent of your window. Unfortunately, you can only
>figure out the decoration width and height after the window has been mapped
>this way.
>
Another way would be to use GetGeometry to find out where
you are relative to the frame, and TranslateCoordinates to find
out where your window's upperleft corner really is.
-- Ethan
| 5comp.windows.x |
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