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In article <May.5.02.53.10.1993.28880@athos.rutgers.edu> koberg@spot.Colorado.EDU (Allen Koberg) writes:
>.....................................................There is dis-
>crepancy even among charismatic organizations as to the proper use
>of tongues. Be it revelatory with interpretation, for prayer use,
>or for signifying believers (which I doubt since any one can do it).
>Pentecostals (Assembly of God, Church of Christ), seem to espouse all
>three. Neo-pentecostals tend to view prayer use and as a sign as the
>uses. Speaking in tongues during a service is not usually done by
>neo-pentecostals because for the most part, they still attend Protestant
>churches. Non-denominational churches seem to view the use as a sign
>as merely optional, but recommended.
Koberg,
Just a couple of minor corrections here...
1) The Churches of Christ do not usually believe in speaking in
tongues, in fact many of them are known for being strongly opposed to
Pentecostal teaching. You are probably thinking of Church of God in
Christ, the largest African-American Pentecostal denomination.
2) I'm not sure what you mean by "signifying believers" but it
should be pointed out that the Assemblies of God does not now, nor has it
ever, held that speaking in tongues is the sign that one is a Christian.
The doctrine that traditional Pentecostals (including the A/G) maintain is
that speaking in tongues is the sign of a second experience after becoming
a Christian in which one is "Baptized in the Holy Spirit" That may be
what you were referring to, but I point this out because Pentecostals are
frequently labeled as believing that you have to speak in tongues in order
to be a Christian. Such a position is only held by some groups and not the
majority of Pentecostals. Many Pentecostals will quote the passage in
Mark 16 about "these signs following them that believe" but they generally
do not interpret this as meaning if you don't pactice the signs you aren't
"saved".
3) I know it's hard to summarize the beliefs of a movement that
has such diversity, but I think you've made some pretty big
generalizations here. Do "Neo-Pentecostals" only believe in tongues as a
sign and tongues as prayer but NOT tongues as revelatory with a message?
I've never heard of that before. In fact I would have characterized them
as believing the same as Pentecostals except less likely to see tongues as
a sign of Spirit Baptism. Also, while neo-Pentecostals may not be
inclined to speak in tongues in the non-Pentecostal churches they attend,
they do have their own meetings and, in many cases, a whole church will be
charismatic.
Ken Banner
Dept. of Religious Studies
University of Pennsylvania
kbanner@philae.sas.upenn.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Brad Gibson (gibson@nukta.geop.ubc.ca) wrote:
[Much text deleted]
: plus/minus ... it is the most misleading hockey stat available.
Not necessarily the most misleading, but you are right, it definitely
needs to be taken in the proper perspective. A shining example is
if you look at the Penguins individual +/-, you will find very few minuses.
That only makes common sense, since they didn't lose many games.
: Until the NHL publishes a more useful quantifiable statistic including ice
: time per game and some measure of its "quality" (i.e., is the player put out
: in key situations like protecting a lead late in the game; is he matched up
: against the other team's top one or two lines; short-handed, etc), I would
: much rather see the +/- disappear altogether instead of having its dubious
: merits trumpeted by those with little understanding of its implications.
Unfortunately, you will need to keep a ridiculous number of stats to
really come up with a statistic which really shows a player's value.
Let's just enjoy the game and not overanalyze it. (like I'm doing now,
excuse me!)
--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot
huot@cray.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
games@max.u.washington.edu writes:
>In article <1993Apr3.174759.15377@seas.gwu.edu>, lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai) writes:
>> In article <1ov6rj$gev@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> csd25@keele.ac.uk (C.M. Yearsley) writes:
>>>I've just bought a PC which came with a bundle of Lotus stuff, including
>>>Adobe Type Manager version 1.15. As a newcomer to Windows, I'm
>>>confused about which I should be using, ATM or Truetype.
>>>
>> ...
>There is a program called true-effects for windows, that allows you to define
>attributes for true-type fonts, and have them look like new fonts. It will
>give your font different backgrounds, or shadows, or reverse, etc...
>It ONLY works with TT fonts.
Yes, and the idea was ripped off from Adobe, which has had a program
called TypeAlign for a few years now. TypeAlign does the same thing
for Adobe Type 1 fonts; *and* Adobe has said that the next version
will work with both Adobe Type 1 and TrueType.
And TypeAlign does some things that TrueEffects does not - including
some things you apparently want ...
>If you want to use it, you best not want to use it with an ATM type font.
>(Oh, yeah... lest you think this is a really cool program, none of the
>effects are scalable (like the brick background pattern is the same size
>whether your font is 10 point of 100 point.), and it is not extensible,
>I.E. you CAN NOT add pattern of your own.
>And you can't rorate the background pattern...
>And you can't make the pattern extend beyond one character
> (Every character in that new font has the entire pattern in it,
> As opposed to having the SAME pattern run contiguously through
> a couple of characters)
>It is however cheap.
>Maybe I will buy a copy when the next version comes out, if they fix some of
>these gripes...
> John.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr22.111447.1@otago.ac.nz>, grads@otago.ac.nz writes:
> Hello,
>
> I saw this question posted a week or so ago, but as far as I could tell no
> answer appeared on the net. What is the good oil on connecting the Apple
> Extended Keyboard to a PowerBook? The earlier questioner wonderd if this would>
> Any help gratefully recieved. I will summarise to the net if necessary.
>
The general consensus seems to be that an extended keyboard (or the new
ergonomic keyboard) with mouse is ok. The PB160 is rated for 200mA which is
apparently identical to the LC and the LC works fine with said attachments.
Thanks very much to those who replied...I am now on my way to order a Battleship
and a mouse.... :)
John
...now I wonder about my electric toothbrush...
> P.S. I am thinking of a PB160 but I assume that this would apply to all PB's.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Here's a list of 800 numbers I have compiled from other sources...
anybody got anything to add?
It's formatted for Alpha, and looks fine for me, so don't complain if it
doesn't look good to you.
* Adobe 1-415-961-0911
FAX info 1-800-235-0078
* Aldus 1-206-622-5500
* Alladin 1-408-685-9175
* Altsys 1-214-680-2060
* APDA 1-800-282-2732
(Apple Prog Dev Assoc)
* Apple Computer 1-408-996-1010
* Apple Customer 1-800-776-2333
Non-Tech assistance
* APS 1-800-233-7550
(Alliance Peripheral Sys)
* ASD Softwae 1-714-624-2594
FAX 1-714-624-9574
* Berkeley Systems 1-415-540-5535
* Cayman Systems 1-800-473-4776
* CE Software 1-515-224-1953
* Claris 1-408-727-8227
1-408-727-9054
Claris Software 1-800-3CL-ARIS
* Compatible Systems 1-800-356-0283
* Computer Associates C.A 1-408-648-4000
* Connectix 1-800-950-5880
* DataViz 1-203-268-0300
* Dayna 1-801-972-2000
* DeltaPoint 1-800-367-4334
* Deneba 1-305-594-6965
* Dr.Mac: 1-800-825-6227
* Fifth Generation 1-800-873-4384
* GreatWave 1-408-438-1990
* ICOM Simulations 1-708-520-4440
* MacAvenue: 1-800-926-6221
* MacConnection: 1-800-334-4444
* MacLand: 1-800-888-8779
* MacroMind 1-415-442-0200
* Mac's Place: 1-800-367-4222
* MacWarehouse: 1-800-255-6227
* Microcom 1-919-490-1277
* Microsoft 1-800-426-9400
Educational: 1-800-227-4679
General: 1-206-882-8088
Sales and Services: 1-800-426-9400
Then punch:
1 Technical Assistance
2 University
* Shiva 1-617-864-8100
* Silicon Beach 1-619-695-6956
* Symantec 1-800-441-7234
* The Mac Zone: 1-800-248-0800
* Chip Merchant 1-800-426-6375
* ClearPoint Computers 1-800-253-2778
* ClubMac 1-800-CLU-BMAC
* Delta Research Labs 1-800-999-1593
* Diamond 1-800-541-7126
* Dynamic Electronics 1-800-845-8228
* ETC 1-800-882-2863
* Global Village Telecom. 1-800-736-4821
Mac ADB modems
* Lifetime Memory 1-800-233-6233
* LLB 1-800-848-8967
* Macproducts USA 1-800 MAC DISK
* MacProducts: 1-800-MAC-USA1
* Megabyte Memory 1-800-748-5766
Products
* Memory International 1-800-266-0488
* Memory Plus 1-800-388-PLUS
* Micro Electronic Tech 1-800-766-7466
* Newer Technology 1-800-678-3726
* Peripheral Outlet 1-800-332-6581
* PSI 1-800-622-1722
* Quadmation 1-800-733-7887
* Shecom Computers 1-800-366-4433
* SII Micros 1-800-424-1126
* South Coast Electronics 1-800-289-8801
* Stratum Technologies 1-800-533-1744
* Technology Works 1-800-688-7466
* Texas Macstuf 1-800-MAC-STUF
* Third Wave Computing 1-800-284-0486
* Third Wave 1-800-284-0846
* Turbo Technologies 1-800-542-7466
1-800-555-1212 directory assistance for 1-800 numbers
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1993Apr15.163411.27443@dsd.es.com> bmoss@grinch.sim.es.com (Brent "Woody" Moss) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.160922.8797@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin) writes:
>|>
>|> In article <1993Apr15.135514.29579@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rdb1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com
>|> (ronald.j.deblock..jr) writes:
>|>
>|> >You can avoid these problems entirely by installing an oil drain valve in
>|> >place of the bolt. I have one on both of my cars. There have been no
>|> >leaks in 210,000 miles (combined miles on both cars).
>|>
>|> Yes, but then someone would have no problem draining your oil in a parking lot.
>|>
>|> all they have to do is reach underneath, turn a valve, and forget the trip
>|> home.
>|> But there is less likelyhood they have a wrench with them.
>|>
>|> I personally recommend, installing a 'special' locking drain plug to keep
>|> vandals away. :---)
>|>
>|> steve
>
>I was worried about someone stealing my oil once also. I finally
>decided to just have my drain plug welded shut. It works great !
>I figure that when I add three or four quarts when the oil light
>comes on every month or so that it's just as good or better than
>the old wives tale of changing the oil AND filter every 3000 miles.
>Works for me, I must say.
Either I've just fallen for this, or you guys
are _really_ paranoid!
You're actually worried about somebody stealing
your oil?
C'mon, you think a vandal'll do that?!
That's absolutely ridiculous!
Besides, how hard is it to get under the car to
change the oil?
I can say from experience on the cars that I've driven and
changed the oil on, my Mazda 323 is pretty much a pain, but
once you've done it once, you don't forget how, and it
gets easier.
I can't imagine any other cars are much worse than mine.
--
Andy Infante | You can listen to what everybody says, but the fact remains |
'71 BMW R60/5 | that you've got to get out there and do the thing yourself. |
DoD #2426 | -- Joan Sutherland |
==============| My opinions, dammit, have nothing to do with anyone else!!! |
| 7rec.autos |
Just a little nitpicking. Wasn't it the government that required
a standard railway gauge ? Didn't that improve things ?
Please don't misunderstand. I'm utter suspicious of this Clipper
chip. Why hold the design TOP SECRET ? Was this a work around the
law that says that any discoveries made by people working for the
government is public domain. ( e.g. NIH Class Library, etc. )
DES has its designs published all over the place and it is considered
fairly strong ( although could be stronger ).
- Ants
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1993Apr17.122610.28029@news.unomaha.edu> salmon@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Salmon) writes:
>According to the official documentation, failure to use the IIfx terminator
>can not only affect SCSI bus performance but can also damage the bus.
>Whether this is your problem or not I don't know. I have had sporadic SCSI
>problems with my IIfx since I bought it. (I cannot connect more than three
>devices, fourth one causes major problems).
>
>First thing to do is to try to reformat your drive on someone elses system.
>If you continue to get errors it is probably the drive. If it formats fine
>then I would try to format it on your system with no externals. If this
>fails then the SCSI controller on your IIfx needs repair/replacement.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>--
>David C. Salmon
>salmon@unomaha.edu
Have you tried having your scsi bus balanced?
-Greg
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
>first ride of the season.
>
One thing is certain, though, its still too cold. After about 40
>minutes, I had to stop and hold my muffler for a while. When I got
>home after a few hours, I kept all my gear on for about a half hour
>in the house. 40F, 100% humidity, no wind protection, and 75mph
>do not mix well.
>
Hell! This is WARM. I retired my fleece from under the Aerostich last
month when the temperature got aboce 40. Try living a couple of years
on the dole, so you cant afford any heating. You put the gear on in
October, abd you take it off again in May. Getting out on the bike
seems like a luxury in comparison cos oyur usuallu going somewhere
warm.
Its all relative.
>
>Happy cold riding.
>
Who are you trying to kid - its the pain that makes it all worthwhile.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) writes:
>In article <Apr.10.05.32.29.1993.14388@athos.rutgers.edu> caralv@caralv.auto-trol.com (Carol Alvin) writes:
> > ...
> >
> >Are all truths also absolutes?
> >Is all of scripture truths (and therefore absolutes)?
> >
> >If the answer to either of these questions is no, then perhaps you can
> >explain to me how you determine which parts of Scripture are truths, and
> >which truths are absolutes.
>
> The answer to both questions is yes.
Perhaps we have different definitions of absolute then. To me,
an absolute is something that is constant across time, culture,
situations, etc. True in every instance possible. Do you agree
with this definition? I think you do:
> Similarly, all truth is absolute. Indeed, a non-absolute truth is a
> contradiction in terms. When is something absolute? When it is always
> true. Obviously, if a "truth" is not always "true" then we have a
> contradiction in terms.
A simple example:
In the New Testament (sorry I don't have a Bible at work, and can't
provide a reference), women are instructed to be silent and cover
their heads in church. Now, this is scripture. By your definition,
this is truth and therefore absolute.
Do women in your church speak? Do they cover their heads? If all
scripture is absolute truth, it seems to me that women speaking in and
coming to church with bare heads should be intolerable to evangelicals.
Yet, clearly, women do speak in evangelical churches and come with bare
heads. (At least this was the case in the evangelical churches I grew
up in.)
Evangelicals are clearly not taking this particular part of scripture
to be absolute truth. (And there are plenty of other examples.)
Can you reconcile this?
> Many people claim that there are no absolutes in the world. Such a
> statement is terribly self-contradictory. Let me put it to you this
> way. If there are no absolutes, shouldn't we conclude that the statement,
> "There are no absolutes" is not absolutely true? Obviously, we have a
> contradiction here.
I don't claim that there are *no* absolutes. I think there are very
few, though, and determining absolutes is difficult.
> This is just one of the reasons why Christians defy the world by claiming
> that there are indeed absolutes in the universe.
> >There is hardly consensus, even in evangelical
> >Christianity (not to mention the rest of Christianity) regarding
> >Biblical interpretation.
>
> So? People sometimes disagree about what is true. This does not negate
> the fact, however, that there are still absolutes in the universe.
But you are claiming that all of Scripture is absolute. How can you
determine absolutes derived from Scripture when you can't agree how
to interpret the Scripture?
It's very difficult to see how you can claim something which is based
on your own *interpretation* is absolute. Do you deny that your own
background, education, prejudices, etc. come into play when you read the
Bible, and determine how to interpret a passsage? Do you deny that
you in fact interpret?
Carol Alvin
caralv@auto-trol.com
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I recently heard of some testing of a new migraine drug called sumatripton
(I have no idea of the actual spelling) that supposedly utilizes a chemical
that trips neuro-transmitters. My mother has regular migraines and nothing
seems to help - does anyone know anything about this new drug? Is it in
a testing phaze or anywhere near approval? Does it seem to be working?
Any information would help.
Please feel free to e-mail rather than take up bandwidth if you prefer.
Thanks in advance,
-Rox
--
roxannen@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
"Virtue is a relative term."
| 13sci.med |
In article <Apr16.182858.51611@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes:
>In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
>|> In article <Apr15.175334.72079@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes:
>
>[.....]
>
>|> Your view of this entire matter is far too serenely one-sided and
>|> selectively naive.
>
>Oooh... now THAT hurts. I will not suffer you through more naive
>and one-sided views of mine. Please skip my articles in the future
>Oh Wise Tim, and have a good day.
>
>Basil
What is the point in throwing out one-sided viewpoints (which means:
ignoring that the "other side's" perspective and experience HAS ANY
LEGITIMACY) while assuming that "your side" possesses no faults and
bears no responbility for ANY of the negative impacts of a particular
event? Isn't the former onesided? Isn't the latter naive? If you feel
that my opinion is wrong then please tell me how. "Strategic withdrawal"
under the cover of a snide remark seems to be the favored tactic on this
net but doesn't accomplish anything.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In <1993Apr20.041300.21721@ncsu.edu> jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch) writes:
> I'm trying to get mailing addresses for the following
>companies. Specifically, I need addresses for their personnel
>offices or like bureau. The companies are:
> - Space Industries, Inc. (Somewhere in Houston)
101 Courageous Dr.
Leage City, TX 77573
Phone: (713) 538-6000
Good Luck!
Doug
--
Doug Egan "It's not what you got -
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Co. It's what you give."
Houston, TX -Tesla
***** email: egan@blkbox.com *****
| 14sci.space |
In <C50sJG.3Eu@voder.nsc.com> matt@galaxy.nsc.com (Matt Freivald x8043) writes:
>In article 164633 in talk.politics.misc, bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
>>>>And Ms. Regard, please don't give us the trite "you can't legislate
>>>>morality" nonsense again: there is little else that is legislated,
>>>>including the moral concept of "rights".
>>Really? Pure Socialism had this belief, and fell flat on its ass by
>>attempting to follow such reasoning. Suppose you pass a law that
>>states that I must love my neighbour, regardless of race, religion,
>>etc. How exactly do you plan to enforce such a law? Better yet, how
>>do you plan to measure compliance? And even if you overcome those
>>two obstacles, how will you ever know if I have become *more moral*
>>or not?
>You either missed the point or are being somewhat disingenuous; I have
>never heard anyone suggest that you can legislate what people think.
>Laws are based on either expediency (i.e. traffic laws) or morality (i.e.
>human rights), as far as I can tell, and the majority are based on the
>latter.
Once more around the racetrack. See the original statement that it is
nonsense to believe that you cannot legislate morality. I simply stated
that they can pass all the laws they want but not a single one of them
will make you or I more moral people. They may make us act in a moral
manner, but our actions are only a reflection of the unwillingness to
risk punishment. They say nothing about whether we have become more
moral or not. Perhaps the distinction is too fine.
>Matt Freivald
TOG
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "I'm not a feminist -- I'm for equal rights!"
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one!
> If you don't believe in slavery, don't own one!
> If you don't believe in murder, don't commit one!
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Pro CHILD. Pro FAMILY. Pro LIFE.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>THESE ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <C5wo5C.EBv@sunfish.usd.edu>, rfox@charlie.usd.edu (Rich Fox, Univ of South Dakota) writes:
>In article <30147@ursa.bear.com>, halat@panther.bears (Jim Halat) writes:
>>To repeat what I had said in an earlier post: Evolution is
>>a theory. If you accept it as fact, then that is faith and
>>not much different from religion. If you accept it as the
>>theory it is, then there is 0% religion involved and it
>>can be quite useful in the realm of science.
>>
>>Simply put, evolution/creation when each is looked at
>>properly -- theory/assertion not fact/fiction -- is a
>>specific example of exactly what separates soft athiesm
>>and science from religion.
----------------------
evolution = theory
creation = assertion
vs
evolution = fact
creation = fiction
----------------------
>>
>To repeat what I said in an earlier post: Evolution is theory and fact. If you
>accept the facts, then that is a display of reason and intelligence and much
>different from anachronistic religion. If you assess the theories of evolution
>objectively, then there can be 0% religion involved and evolution remains
>useful in the realm of science.
>
>Simply put, evolution/creation when each is looked at properly - theory/fact
>vs. assertion/fiction - is a specific example of exactly what separates reason
>and science from nonsense.
>
>Rich Fox, Anthro, Usouthdakota
-----------------------
evolution = theory
creation = fact
vs Is this demonstrating the nonsense part?
evolution = assertion
creation = fiction
----------------------
What is the fact of evolution? There is a difference between calling evolution a
fact and talking about the theory of evolution providing facts (I happen to think
the latter is more accurate ). And you said it best yourself: If you assess
the _theories_ of evolution objectively... Why didn't you say, If you assess
the _facts_ of evolution objectively...
--
jim halat halat@bear.com
bear-stearns --whatever doesn't kill you will only serve to annoy you--
nyc i speak only for myself
| 19talk.religion.misc |
caj@sei.cmu.edu (Carol Jarosz) writes:
>While watching the Penguins/Devils game last night, I saw the "slash" that
>Barrasso took on the neck. This brought to mind the goaltender who had his
>jugular vein cut by a skate. I think he was a Sabre, but I'm not positive.
>Does anyone remember/know his name? What has happened to him since? What
>about the player whose skate cut the goalie? Name? Info? Has this ever
>happened before in a hockey game?
>Thanks,
>Carol
>Go Pens!
I remember reading an article in Reader's digest many moons ago
about a similar incident. During a minor leaque game a player neck was
cut when the opponent he was back-checking tripped and his skakes
flew up. In this case the victim's mask proved a hinderance since
his face was protected and so he didn't bother with the
usually instinctive reaction to protect his face/neck. A quick
thinking coach saved his life by applying direct pressure and using
snow to contract the blood vessels (from what I can remember).
Bill Scott (wscott@physics.ubc.ca)
Go Jets Go.....down but not out.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5HrxJ.ACE@unix.amherst.edu>, nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (Nathaniel M
endell) writes:
>Ken Orr (orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com) wrote:
>: In article <C5G7Hv.Cs@unix.amherst.edu> nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (Nathaniel
Mendell) writes:
>: >Steve Mansfield (smm@rodan.UU.NET) wrote:
>: >: Yes, my front tire is all but dead. It has minimal tread left, so it's
>: >: time for a new one. Any recommendations on a good tire in front? I'm
>: >: riding on an almost brand new ME55A in back.
>: >:
>: >: Steve Mansfield | The system we've learned says we're equal under la
w
>: >: smm@uunet.uu.net | But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will
fall
>: >: 1983 Suzuki GS550E | Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
>: >: DoD# 1718 | Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down.
>: >: Queensryche - Speak the Word.
>: >
>: >The best thing is to match front and back, no? Given that the 99A ("Perfect"
?)
>: >is such a good tire, just go with that one
>: >
>: The Me99a perfect is a rear. The match for the front is the Me33 laser.
>:
>: DOD #306 K.O.
>: AMA #615088 Orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com
>
>Yeah, what *he* said....<:)
>
>Nathaniel
>ZX-10
>DoD 0812
>AM
>Yes, you definitely need a front tire on a motorcycle....<grin>
--
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Frank Crary (fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
: In article <1pqsruINNiae@hp-col.col.hp.com> dduff@col.hp.com (Dave Duff) writes:
: The Swiss population is (and well was) far larger than that. I think
: your question should be, "...losing sleep over a million expert
: riflemen?" Certainly he could have conquered Switzerland, but
: a million armed militiamen (especially in a mountainous area,
: where tanks' effectiveness is limited) would have made it a
: real pain. The question a conqueror would ask, is "is it worth
: the trouble?" The more difficult an invasion is, the more likely
: the answer would be "no." Certainly a million riflemen (as
: opposed to a professional army of only ten or twenty thousand, the
: best a country the size of Switzerland could support), makes
: invasions more difficult.
Hitler invaded Yugoslavia and occupied it. The mountainous portions were
sometimes patrolled by the wermacht, but they were certainly not in control.
There were two major native factions opposing each other and the germans,
It was basically useless to the germans (no production) and a drain on their
resources (a armored division and a couple of infantry divisions) Which if
my memory is correct, were kind of stuck there up until the allies accepted
their surrender. (I think that the allies also let the germans keep some
of their weapons for self defense unitil they were able to get to the
lowlands, away from the resistance factions. This is from memory, and
it is unreliable.
--Dale Farmer
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Hello netters,
I'm new to this board and I thought this might be the best place
for my post. I have a question regarding satellite technology seen
in the movie Patriot Games. In the movies, the CIA utilizes its
orbitting sats to pinpoint a specific terrorist camp in N Africa.
The photos taken by the sats are stunning! I know that sats are
capable of photographing the license plates of vehicles. My
question is this: The camp in question was taken out by the
British SAS. And while the SAS was in action, the CIA team was
watching in the warroom back in Langley, VA. The action of the SAS
was clear and appeared to be relayed via a sat. The action was at
night and the photography appeared to be an x-ray type. That is,
one could see the action within the tents/structures of the camp.
Does such techology exist and what is it's nature? i.e., UV, IR,
x-ray, etc.
PS Who wrote the book Patriot Games?
Mad Vlad
| 14sci.space |
Detroit's going to beat Toronto in 6 or LESS!!!
Granted, Gilmour should get the Hart Trophy, NOT Lemieux... Just
Look at what Gilmour did for Toronto. When you think of Toronto,
who comes to mind, Gilmour, Andreychuk, Potvin...ah...did I mentio
n Gilmour?
Back to Detroit... There really isn't a team that could stand up
to them if all the players on the team play to their potential,
no one could stop them. Yzerman, Fedorov, Coffey, Lindstrom...
there's more firepower there than Pittsburgh... and they don't tri
p over their own skates!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
/------------/ Detroit over Toronto in 5 Patrick Walker
/ /--\------/ Detroit over Chicago in 6 University of New Bruns.
! ! !---/ Detroit over Vancouver in 6 Canada
\ \__/ / Detroit over Nords in 6 "Disco Still Sucks!"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In <1993Apr19.143939.28983@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> probulf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Frank Probul) writes:
>|> However, when I learned typing in school some years ago, I was taught
>|> to write 'b' with my right hand. Is this a difference between Danish
>|> and American typing, or what???
>In germany you usually use the left hand for the 'b'
Same in Sweden (the ergonomic keyboard is great, BUT!
the palm rests do NOT fix to the keyboard; they just sort
of rests against the table. Too bad when you have the
keyboard in your knee...
Cheers,
/ h+
--
-- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe --
"You NEVER hide the menu bar. You might go about and change the color
of it to the color of the BACKGROUND, but you never HIDE the menu bar."
-- Tog
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Hello,
I am considering buying the Hummingbird X-Windows software for a MS-Windows
3.1 PC (386-40MHZ, NE2000 Ethernet board). Would anyone tell me if they
are using this package in a similar environment and if they are happy with
it? I will be connecting to Sun SparcStation 10 running Sun OS 4.1.3.
Thanks very much,
Jim Ennis
University of Central Florida
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <israel-palestiniansU3yG115pe@clarinet.com> clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI) writes:
> GAZA CITY, Israeli-Occupied Gaza Strip (UPI) -- Palestinian gunmen
>Sunday shot and killed two Israelis who entered Gaza to buy cheap
>produce, and two Arabs who were assisting them.
> Elsewhere in the crowded strip, Israeli troops killed a 18-month-old
>infant and a 12-year-old boy during rock-throwing clashes at two refugee
>camps.
can anybody guess this from the title?
Not me, I thought that a clash between Israelis and Arabs resulted
in four deaths on one side and two on the other.
> The drive-by shooting outside the Jewish settlement of Gadid in
>southern Gaza prompted Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin to warn Israelis
>they were ``endangering their lives'' by doing illegal business in the
>occupied territories.
How about being illegally settled there?
I am not sure about the signals the Israelis are sending, one day
they are willing to accept a Jordan/West Bank federation, the other
they do not recognize the west bank as occupied territory (neither
did the U.S, "the honest brocker")
(details of the killings omitted, PLO,Hamas graffiti both claim responsability)
> The Israelis had entered Gaza in a car driven by the man from Hebron,
Now don't tell me that this could not be an Israeli spy.
We will know later.
>which carried the easily identified blue license plates of Arab vehicles
>in the West Bank. When Israelis enter Gaza with their own cars, which
>carry yellow plates, they are usually stoned and burned by angry
*********************************
>Palestinian residents.
Now the UPI shows its ugly face once and for all.
USUALLY?
It happened once this year, once last year. out of possibly thousands
or more. Man how low can you get.
For those of you bigoted enough not to see what is transmitted here, I will
tell you something that is at least as close to the truth as the above:
"Babies/children who venture outside their homes are usually shot and killed
by the Israeli soldiers."
....
> Army officials said the joint operation by members of the PLO-tied
>Fatah Hawks and the Hamas-connected Kassem brigade, arose from their
>anger at the army's killing of six fugitives from each group over the
>past month.
> The groups sprayed graffiti on walls in Khan Yunis, calling the
>attack ``an act of revenge'' for the killing of their comrades.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1sk97rINNptb@polaris.isi.com> kin@isi.com (Kin Cho) writes:
>
>I wonder if anybody know of a X-window-based postscript file
>viewer that runs under SunOS (prefered), HPUX, or IBM AIX.
>Reason I'm looking for this utility is that I've downloaded these
>large postscript documents and I'd like to know how useful (and how
>long) they are before commiting them to the printer and potentially
>wasting 200 pages of paper and hogging the printer for 1/2 hour.
>
Get ghostscript and ghostview. Ghostview is a postscript previewer
that uses ghostscript.
From the ghostview README:
Ghostview -- An X11 user interface for ghostscript.
Ghostview is full function user interface for ghostscript 2.4.
Brief list of features:
- Ghostview parses any known version of Adobe's Document Structuring
Conventions.
- Page size is automatically determined from the Document Structuring
Comments. The user is able to override the values from the comments.
- Window size is set to the bounding box for Encapsulated PostScript figures.
- Default page size is Letter and can be changed via Xresources or
application defaults file to A4 (or any other valid size) for our
European friends.
- Scrollbars appear when necessary.
- Page orientation is automatically determined from the Document Structuring
Comments. The user is able to override the values from the comments.
- Ability to view at 4 orientations: Portrait, Landscape, Upside-down,
and Seascape (for those who rotate landscape the other direction).
- Ability to preview in any supported visual. (Can preview in gray-scale
or color on a Color monitor.)
- Ability to mark pages for printing, or saving. (Good for people that
printed a 100 page document and lost page 59 due to a printer jam.)
- Can popup zoom windows at printer resolution
(1 display dot = 1 printer dot).
The Ghostview distribution includes a Ghostview Widget that people
are encouraged to use in other programs.
Ghostview-1.3 is available via anonymous ftp from:
prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/ghostview-1.3.tar.Z
appenzell.cs.wisc.edu:/pub/ghostview-1.3.tar.Z
From the ghostscript README:
*****************************************************
* This file describes version 2.4.1 of Ghostscript. *
*****************************************************
********
******** An overview of Ghostscript ********
********
Ghostscript is the name of a set of software that provides:
- An interpreter for the Ghostscript language, which very
closely resembles the PostScript (TM) language; and
- A set of C procedures (the Ghostscript library) that
implement the graphics capabilities that appear as primitive
operations in the Ghostscript language.
The Ghostscript language interpreter and library are written entirely
in C, with some assembly-language accelerators for MS-DOS platforms.
Currently, Ghostscript is known to run on the following platform
families:
- IBM PC and compatibles with EGA, VGA, SuperVGA, or compatible
graphics under MS-DOS 3.1, 3.3, or 5.0;
- A wide variety of Unix systems using X Windows version 11,
release 3, 4, and 5, including Sun-3, Sun-4, Sun-386i,
Sun SPARCStation 1; generic 80386 machines running 386/ix;
H-P 9000/300 and 9000/800; DECStation 2100 and 3100; VAX
running Ultrix; Sequent Symmetry; Convex C1 and C2;
Tektronix 4300; SGI Iris Indigo;
- Sun workstations (Sun-3, SPARC, Sun-386i) running SunView;
- VAX, VMS with X11R3/4/5, gcc and DEC C compiler (DEC C compiler
version 3.1 or later is required).
(Get ghostscript from the same ftp site you get ghostview.)
--
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Night Vision & Electronic Sensors Directorate DSN: 654-1685
AMSEL-RD-NV-VISPD (Williams) FAX: (703) 704-1705
Ft. Belvoir, VA 22060-5677 E-MAIL: williams@nvl.army.mil
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <...> heiser@acs2.bu.edu (Bill Heiser) writes:
>In article <...> chuck@eos.ncsu.edu (Chuck Kesler) writes:
>>>"Jeremy G. Mereness" <zonker+@CMU.EDU> says:
>>>>Can anyone offer any opinions of the Ford Probe... ala how they do in
>>>>the long run, repair records, reliability, mileage, etc?
I've found mine ('93 Probe GT) to do quite well.
[window problem deleted, artical has been trimmed]
>I have had my Probe looked at twice by my local dealer (where I purchased
>the car) ... the first time, they made this problem worse. The second time,
>after advising them of the service bulletin mentioned on my ford-probe mailing
>list (they said they didn't know of the bulletin), they adjusted the window and
>made it *much* better. However it now makes a "scritch scritch" noise on rough
>roads, and *still* squeals when I open/close the window in wet weather (anyone
>elses's do this?)
I've not had any of the air or leakage problems that have been reported but
do get the squeal that Bill describes. I live in Seattle so the wet weather
may be a factor.
>>>Ford only gives 1 key with the car. C'mon Ford, spend an extra few pennies!
If I recall correctly I got two keys.
>>>horn buttons behind air bag in spokes and not in
>>>center (personal preference)
>"you've-got-to-position-the-fingers-perfectly-to-make-it-beep" buttons are
>TERRIBLE.
This is true. I'm wondering if this may be a safety concern. IE, if people
pound on the place where the airbag lives...
>>Speaking of the horn, I was surprised to find that the Probe comes with one
>>of those nice 'merican sounding horns instead of the Japanese sounding kind.
>>The previous Probes had Japanese horns.
No opinion.
>>>transmission (the 5 speed is a must)
>I have always been a 5-speed guy. Almost every car I've ever owned has been
>a 5-speed. Because I got a good deal on this car with the 2500 miles, I
>(knowingly) overlooked the fact that it has an automatic. But it is a pretty
>high-tech automatic. It is a fully electronicaly controlled 4-speed with
The 5 speed is much more fun. We opted for the automatic for a number of
reasons but it's still fun, and in some ways more practical.
>>>No shake/rattle noises when going over bumps/potholes (still!)
Ditto.
>Shakes and rattles has been my main gripe. I've gotten them to fix the
>worst of them, but I fear that with the rather harsh ride, the car will
>be a virtual potpouri of rattles when it gets older.
I too would suspect that this may be true.
>>>Tires: 225/55VR16 Goodyear Eagles (70% left; hoping for 30K :-)
>very very very well. It sticks to the road like glue, even on a rough
>surface.
Yes!
>>interior is very, very nice too. Very pleasing to the eye, and ergonomically
>>sound.
>Definitely. Ford/Mazda did a very very nice job on this one. The
>car has a "much more expensive than it actually is" look and feel to it.
Ditto.
>>Yes, this car's stiff suspension isn't for everyone. I personally like it,
>>but if you find it a little harsh but otherwise like the car, I'd strongly
>>suggest looking into the MX-6.
Agree. Check it out. I don't mind it but would say that if it was much
stiffer it might be a problem. (How about the '93 R1 RX-7 for suspension?!)
>Well I wouldn't encourage passenger-carrying in the Probe unless the
>person in the front seat likes to sit with his knees to the dash. As
>mentioned in the Consumer Reports write-ups, "consider the back seat
>as a parcel shelf". No biggie to me though (if it had been, I'd not
>have bought the car! (but it's definitely not a family car)).
True.
>>>I've heard that the exhaust system has trouble, but mine works fine.
>>I haven't heard about this one. I know that some of the very early Probes
>>('89 and maybe '90) had problems with prematurely rusting mufflers (which
I've had this problem and read about it. (or at least I assume the one
I had was the one I read about :-). In any case what happened was the
weld between the muffler and the pipe feeding it (ok, so I'm not a mechanic)
broke. In my case the dealer welded it, ordered replacement parts and
put them on when they got them. I suspect this is some sort of 1) design
flaw, or 2) production flaw. In any case I have an earlier model and would
expect it to be worked out on newer ones. In any case it is a warrantee
repair. (or they get the keys back!)
>>From what I've heard, it sounds like Ford/Mazda had some QC problems with
>>the Probe (and probably MX-6) when they first went into production, but
>>I think these problems have mostly been corrected at this point. That's
>>almost always to be expected with a completely new car like this, though.
>I have to agree that they seem to have some QC problesm. But I seriously
>feel the car design is sound, and expect it to do very well.
I second this. There seems to be some things that slipped through but the
car seems very sound. While not perfection (what is) you get an awful
lot for your money.
>--
>Bill Heiser heiser@acs.bu.edu, heiser@world.std.com
> Boston University, Boston MA
BTW, Bill has a Probe mailing list. You might want to subscribe to it if
you are interested in more detail. Try request-ford-probe@world.std.com
(did I get that right? never can remember if the request goes on the
front or the back :-)
--
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,`,`John Navitsky`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`johnn@eskimo.com,`,`,`,
,`,`Exercise a right today,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,
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| 7rec.autos |
Subject: Re: Europe vs. Muslim Bosnians
From: Satya Prabhakar, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu
Date: Wed, 12 May 1993 15:50:31 GMT
In article <C6x81M.EJF@news.cis.umn.edu> Satya Prabhakar,
prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu writes:
>(mohamed.s.sadek) writes:
>>
>>I like what Mr. Joseph Biden had to say yesterday 5/11/93 in the senate.
>>
>>Condemening the european lack of action and lack of support to us plans
>>and calling that "moral rape".
>>
>>He went on to say that the reason for that is "out right religious
BIGOTRY"
>
>Actually, this strife in Yugoslavia goes back a long way. Bosinan
Muslims,
>in collaboration with the Nazis, did to Serbians after the first world
>war what Serbs are doing to Muslims now.
This kind of racialist generalization is utterly inappropriate. SOME
Bosnian Muslims cooperated with the Nazis in World War 2. Other Bosnian
Muslims risked their lifes to hide Jews from the Nazis and Ustashe, and
those Jews who survived the war remember that. In fact the Jewish leader
in Sarajevo has remained there saying he wants to repay the debt to the
Bosnian Muslims that saved so many Jewish lives in WW2.
Similarly, SOME Serbs are "doing" to Muslims now. This is a group of
serial-killers, rapists, and thieves who have control of the vast
Yugoslav army arsenal. Many other Serbs oppose these atrocities. As one
of Serbian heritage who condemns emphatically the genocide being carried
out against Muslims by both HVO and Mladic forces, I condemn your
generalization about Bosnian Muslims and about Serbs.
This is not a fresh case of
>ethnic cleansing but just another chapter in the continuing saga
>of intense mutual hatred, destruction,...
Every place on earth is the scene of a saga of mutual hatred and
destruction. The holocaust was not a "fresh case." It was another
chapter in a 900 year history of attacks on Jews in Europe. That didn't
make it acceptable. and Balkan history does not make the genocide against
Bosnian Muslims acceptable.
Not taking sides in this
>perpetual war does not amount to religious bigotry.
Standing by and allowing well-armed criminals to slaughter Bosnian Muslim
civilians, while enforcing an arms embargo against the Bosnian Muslims is
not only religious bigotry it is direct complicity in mass-murder.
It could just
>be helplessness with regards to bringing peace to a region that does
>not even know the meaning of the word.
You tell us a region on earth that does have a long history of war. NATO
is the largest military "police force" in the world. It was not
"helpless." It could have stopped the carnage a year ago.
>
>Satya Prabhakar
Regards,
Mike.
--
Michael Sells, Department of Religion, Haverford College
Haverford, Pa 19041-1392
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
I have a 486 DX 33 motherboard in my pc that i'd like to speed up.
I'd rather not replace the whole motherboard, instead i'd like to know
if i can use a DX/2 66Mhz cpu. The BIOS is late model AMI, circa 1991,
and the system crystal is approx 66.3Mhz.
My question is, can i just replace the original 33MHz cpu with the new
DX/2 cpu? If its possible, will there be a need for extra cooling
devices such as heatsinks and / or muffin fans??
Mike
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
yadalle@cs.UAlberta.CA (Yadallee Dave S) writes:
>Here's one from the mill. The Oilers MIGHT move to Hamilton
>where Porklington can get a free deal.
>Given what Labour relations and Puck has been like, it WOULD be a sigh of
>relief.
>This WAY w4e can can BOTH elements!!
Well, Dave, I would have to disagree with you there. Satan himself could
own the team, and I'd be happy as long as the Oilers stayed in Edmonton.
Selfish, but true. I don't want to see the Oilers move, no matter who
their owner is.
Bart, bart@splunge.uucp or barto@nait.ab.ca
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <CMM.0.90.2.735315429.thomasp@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no>, Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> 1. Make a new Newsgroup called talk.politics.guns.PARANOID or
> talk.politics.guns.THEY'R.HERE.TO.TAKE.ME.AWAY
>
> 2. Move all postings about waco and burn to (guess where)..
>
> 3. Stop posting #### on this newsgroup
>
> We are all SO glad you're trying to save us from the evil
> goverment, but would you mail this #### in regular mail to
> let's say 1000 people ????
>
>
>
>
> This is not a .signature.
> It's merely a computergenerated text to waste bandwith
> and to bring down the evil Internet.
>
>
> Thomas Parsli
> thomasp@ifi.uio.no
How about a group called talk.that.thomas.parsli.approves?
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
I am *almost* done porting XFree86 1.2 to a new piece of display
hardware, but have run into a snag I think may be somewhat
commonplace, so I'm sending a net-feeler.
I have a display that is a non-interlaced, memory mapped, 1-bit
720x280 display. The server's view of the world, (obtained via xwd |
xwud), seems to be exactly what it should be. However, the displayed
version of the framebuffer gives the impression that the server is
using scanlines that are too long. After a bit of experimentation, it
seems that the problem was that the server was padding the line out to
a word boundry, but the scanline size in the buffer is 90 bytes, which
isn't exactly divisible by four. Changing the following defines in
mit/server/include/servermd.h:
----
#define BITMAP_SCANLINE_PAD 32
#define LOG2_BITMAP_PAD 5
#define LOG2_BYTES_PER_SCANLINE_PAD 2
---
to:
---
#define BITMAP_SCANLINE_PAD 16
#define LOG2_BITMAP_PAD 4
#define LOG2_BYTES_PER_SCANLINE_PAD 2
---
Was not exactly the right solution. How do I tell the server either
(a) don't pad the scan lines at all ('cause this server is only being
built to run on this particular display), or to pad only to byte
boundries?
I'm using a customized version of XFree86v1.2, under Mach 3.0.
Thanks
Brian
| 5comp.windows.x |
UN Resolution 666 guarantees humanitarian aid will get into Irag during
the Gulf War. Is this war over? Is aid getting in, or are they still
trying to smoke out Saddam? Is this the Middle East? Are we talking
religious war here? Am I ranting?
--
James Owens ad354@Freenet.carleton.ca
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
| 19talk.religion.misc |
To: ad994@Freenet.carleton.ca
JW> 1) Where is there a book or code that will teach me how
JW> to read and write pcx,dbf,and gif files?
JW> 2) How do I access the extra ram on my paradise video board
JW> so I can do paging in the higher vga modes ie: 320x200x256
JW> 800x600x256
JW> 3) anybody got a line on a good book to help answer these question?
Here are some that I have that are very good:
Graphics File Formats, Kay and Levine, ISBN 0-8306-3059-7
Supercharged Bitmapped Graphics, Rimmer, ISBN 0-8306-3788-5
Programmer's Guide to the EGA and VGA Cards, Ferraro,
ISBN 0-201-57025-4 (has a whole chapter on Paradise SVGA)
Dave
---
. DeLuxe./386 1.12 #8993 .
| 1comp.graphics |
In <C5rynw.Iz8@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
>And I suppose the FBI also prevented them from coming out with their
>hands up while national tv cameras watch.
Would *you* have come out if you knew the only national TV
cameras were well over a mile away, and yet the agents with the guns
were only a few yards away? They had contact with a lawyer, so I
am inclined to believe they had an idea of what their situation
actually was. This also leads to the conspiracy theory that the
lawyer had the BATF pinned on rights violations if the BD's
acted as witnesses, hence the arson. I doubt that one too, but
it is still quite clear that leaving a safe place to surrender is
a rather stupid thing to do until that place is no longer safe.
>Do you disbelieve everything the FBI says?
As a matter of course, given how they've allowed no other
views to be heard. I'll reserve judgement until the trial, but so
far as the FBI is concerned their statements carry the same amount
of weight as photons at rest.
>The BATF is by no means devoid of fault in the handling of this affair.
>But to suggest that they may have intentionally started the fire is
>ludicrous.
Ludicrous, yes. Possible, yes. Plausible? Get the jury.
>If the fire were set by accident or by people outside the compound, I would
>have expected far more cult members to flee the compound. Or at least come
>out shooting.
That's what gets me too. It is likely the cult members were
holed up in an enforced place inside the building. With a decent arson
attempt I suspect many of them could have been trapped. In addition,
the introduction of CS gas for several hours would have rendered many
of them immobile if not unconscious when their masks quit. All the props
are there, but proving what scene was played is difficult. The only
certainty is that the FBI and BATF have few witnesses against them.
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
< ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. >
< USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines. Meet exciting, >
< unusual people. And flame them. >
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <16BB112949.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
>In article <115287@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>>>>>A brutal system filtered through "leniency" is not lenient.
>>>>Huh?
>>>How do you rate public floggings or floggings at all? Chopping off the
>>>hands, heads, or other body parts? What about stoning?
>>I don't have a problem with floggings, particularly, when the offenders
>>have been given a chance to change their behavior before floggings are
>>given. I do have a problem with maiming in general, by whatever means.
>>In my opinion no-one who has not maimed another should be maimed. In
>>the case of rape the victim _is_ maimed, physically and emotionally,
>>so I wouldn't have a problem with maiming rapists. Obviously I wouldn't
>>have a problem with maiming murderers either.
>May I ask if you had the same opinion before you became a Muslim?
Sure. Yes, I did. You see I don't think that rape and murder should
be dealt with lightly. You, being so interested in leniency for
leniency's sake, apparently think that people should simply be
told the "did a _bad_ thing."
>And what about the simple chance of misjudgements?
Misjudgments should be avoided as much as possible.
I suspect that it's pretty unlikely that, given my requirement
of repeated offenses, that misjudgments are very likely.
>>>>>>"Orient" is not a place having a single character. Your ignorance
>>>>>>exposes itself nicely here.
>>>>>Read carefully, I have not said all the Orient shows primitive machism.
>>>>Well then, why not use more specific words than "Orient"? Probably
>>>>because in your mind there is no need to (it's all the same).
>>>Because it contains sufficient information. While more detail is possible,
>>>it is not necessary.
>>And Europe shows civilized bullshit. This is bullshit. Time to put out
>>or shut up. You've substantiated nothing and are blabbering on like
>>"Islamists" who talk about the West as the "Great Satan." You're both
>>guilty of stupidities.
>I just love to compare such lines to the common plea of your fellow believers
>not to call each others names. In this case, to substantiate it: The Quran
>allows that one beATs one's wife into submission.
Really? Care to give chapter and verse? We could discuss it.
>Primitive Machism refers to
>that. (I have misspelt that before, my fault).
Again, not all of the Orient follows the Qur'an. So you'll have to do
better than that.
Sorry, you haven't "put out" enough.
>>>Islam expresses extramarital sex. Extramarital sex is a subset of sex. It is
>>>suppressedin Islam. That marial sexis allowed or encouraged in Islam, as
>>>it is in many branches of Christianity, too, misses the point.
>>>Read the part about the urge for sex again. Religions that run around telling
>>>people how to have sex are not my piece of cake for two reasons: Suppressing
>>>a strong urge needs strong measures, and it is not their business anyway.
>>Believe what you wish. I thought you were trying to make an argument.
>>All I am reading are opinions.
>It is an argument. That you doubt the validity of the premises does not change
>it. If you want to criticize it, do so. Time for you to put up or shut up.
This is an argument for why _you_ don't like religions that suppress
sex. A such it's an irrelevant argument.
If you'd like to generalize it to an objective statement then
fine. My response is then: you have given no reason for your statement
that sex is not the business of religion (one of your "arguments").
The urge for sex in adolescents is not so strong that any overly strong
measures are required to suppress it. If the urge to have sex is so
strong in an adult then that adult can make a commensurate effort to
find a marriage partner.
Gregg
| 0alt.atheism |
Forwarded from John Spencer (spencer@lowell.edu):
There will be two eclipses of Iapetus by Saturn and its
rings, in May and July. Please spread the word! Here's some
information about the events, and then a couple of messages from Jay
Goguen of JPL appealing for thermal observations of the eclipse to
learn more about the thermal properties of Iapetus. He might also have
some money available...
John Spencer, 1993/04/21
Iapetus will be eclipsed by the shadows of Saturn's rings and Saturn
itself on 1993/05/01-02 (18:27-13:43 UT) and again on 1993/07/20-21,
(21:16-09:38 UT). Timing is as follows;
1993 May 1-2
A-ring ingress 18:27
egress 19:30
B-ring ingress 19:51
egress 21:42
C-ring egress 23:00
Saturn ingress 23:59
egress 10:02
B-ring ingress 10:28
egress 12:19
A-ring ingress 12:40
egress 13:43
1993 July 20-21
Saturn ingress 21:16
egress 05:08
A-ring ingress 05:13 (grazing)
egress 09:38
Times could be 30 minutes later according to an alternate ephemeris,
and photometric observations are important for refining Iapetus'
orbit. Because the Sun's size projected on the rings as seen from
Iapetus is 3100 km it's unlikely that we will learn anything new about
the rings themselves from the observations. See Soma (1992), Astronomy
and Astrophysics 265, L21-L24 for more details. Thanks to Andy Odell
of Northern Arizona University for bringing the events to my
attention.
THERMAL OBSERVATIONS?
Jay Goguen (jdg@scn5.Jpl.Nasa.Gov) writes:
To me, the interesting thing to do would be thermal IR of the 20 July
disappearance into the shadow of the planet to measure thermal inertia,
etc. Unfortunately, the 21:30 UT of this event renders it inaccessible,
except from Russia. Even from Calar Alto, Saturn is rising through 3
airmasses at 23:00 UT. Do you know anyone in Russia or Ukraine with
a big telescope and 10 um instrumentation that's looking for something
to do? I'd be willing to make a personal grant of >$100 for the data.
Jay
and again:
please try to encourage anyone that can observe the iapetus planet
disappearance to do so at thermal wavelengths. My impression would
be that it's not an easy observation. Iapetus will be faint and
getting fainter in eclipse, so you'll need a big telescope that's a
good IR telescope and reasonable 10 - 20 um instrumentation. I don't
think that combination is widely available at the longitudes that are
well placed for observation. We need SOFIA for this one. One
possibility would be the IR telescope in India, but it's only a 1.2 m.
jay
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| 14sci.space |
You can call MacUser magazine number, i guess they will give you the info!
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Finally got my computer fixed and I'd like to sum up.
About hard drive companies: the original 160 meg drive that was bad (bad
sector or something) was an IBM. The new one is a Quantum. Is the LCIII
supposed to be shipped with IBMs? Is there a quality difference?
Apparently! :)
Second, about hard drive position. I've put the LCIII on its side and
the new 160 HD has had no problems at all. I've even switched back and
forth between horizontal and vertical and there are no problems. As far
as I'm concerned I don't believe HD position is important for drives up
to 160 meg, in any computer. Don't know about CD-ROM, though.
"Just like everything else in life, the right lane ends in half a mile."
Ravi Konchigeri.
mongoose@leland.stanford.edu
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In <C5L1tG.K5q@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu writes:
> If some society came up with a good reason for why rape and murder are ok I
> would be consistent with my position and hold that it was still wrong. My
> basis of morality is not on societal norms, or on current legalities. My
> basis is, surprise surprise, on both the Bible and on inherent moral
> abhorrences,
AH! But what, exactly, is "inherently abhorrent" and WHY is it so?
What you're saying is, in effect, "I think some things are repulsive,
and I know a whole bunch of other people who agree with me, so they
should be deemed absolutely immoral now and forever, period".
Which in and of itself is nice enough; to some extent I agree with
you. But I do _not_ agree that things are 'inherently' or 'absolutely'
immoral; they are labeled 'immoral' each for its own good reason, and if
the reason can even theoretically change, then so can the label.
[...]
> Yes, that's vague, and the only way I know off the top of my head to
> defend it is to say that all humans are similarly made. Yes, that falls
> into the trap of creation,
No it doesn't. Humans are to some extent similar, because we all
belong to the same species; that that species has evolved is another
story altogether. To a certain extent evolution can even lend credence
to moral absolutism (of a flavour).
[...]
> My arguments are that it is better to exhibit trust, goodness,
> love, respect, courage, and honesty in any society rather than deceipt,
> hatred, disrespect, "cowardness", and dishonesty.
You're saying morality is what'll keep society alive and kicking.
It is, I think, up to a point; but societies are not all alike, and
neither are their moralities.
> No, I haven't been everywhere and
> seen everyone, but, according to my thesis, I don't have to, since I hold that
> we were all created similarly.
Similar != identical.
> If that makes an unfalsifiable thesis, just say
> so, and I'll both work out what I can and punt to fellow theists.
No, it's falsifiable through finding someoe who was "created
different", whatever that might be in the "real" world.
--
Disclaimer? "It's great to be young and insane!"
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <C5wEwD.Kto@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
drw3l@delmarva.evsc.Virginia.EDU (David Robert Walker) writes:
Thanks for the numbers, they portray a true image in many ways, I accept
them...the first ones, and the second. IS winfield BA really only around
280.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Robert Angelo Pleshar <rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>After watching the Pengiuns all year (and as many other teams as
>possible), I've really noticed an increase in Tom Barasso's cheap shots
>this year (and not noticed a corrsponding increase with other
>goaltenders).
Have a look at Ed Belfour.
>He also KICKED John McLean. Of
>course he wasn't called for that.
Belfour kicked Gerrard Gallant when the Wings played the 'Hawks
a couple of weeks ago. No penalty. No review. No suspension.
This was after he attacked Bob Probert in the previous period.
He was penalized for that.
>There's no doubt in
>my mind that Barasso is the dirtiest golatender since Hextall.
>He's also very good.
Likewise Belfour. Too bad he goes down so much! :-)
>Ralph
Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu)
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5v2Mr.1z1@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu>, bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner) writes:
[deleted stuff from Andrew wrt which atheist myth is Bill re: to]
>
> Andrew,
>
> The myth to which I refer is the convoluted counterfeit athiests have
> created to make religion appear absurd.
"Counterfeit atheists". Hmmmm. So, we're just cheap knock-offs of the
True Atheists.
Religion demonstrates itself to be absurd. Constantly. Personally, if
someone asks, I'm happy to point out how this is so.
> Rather than approach religion
> (including Christainity) in a rational manner and debating its claims
> -as the are stated-, atheists concoct outrageous parodies and then
> hold the religious accountable for beliefs they don't have. What is
> more accurately oxymoric is the a term like, reasonable atheist.
Man, what *is* your pill wrt atheists? If you're going to make such
contentious statements, back them up! At least, READ NEWS: time-and-time
again, we've hashed out the beliefs various religous doctrines hold.
Try debating reasonably with someone who makes a statement like,
"...more accurately oxymoric is the a term like, reasonable atheist."
Then take a look at the responses we've given Tammy. Seem pretty
"reasonable", nay, even "polite" to me.
[accusations of myths a-flyin']
>
> Here's a good example of of what I said above. Read the post again, I
> said, "Acoording to ...", which means I am referring to Christian
> doctrine (as I understand it), if I am speaking for myself you'll know
> it. My purpose in posting was to present a basic overview of Christain
> doctrines since it seemed germane.
I saw your reference to "According to" in the original article.
Then you do such an excellent job of spewing dogma that, well, the
implication was pretty clear (if wrong, in this case).
[jeez, a misunderstanding. Let it go.]
[more statements to wrap this thing up]
>
> 3) If you read my post with same care as read the FAQ, we wouldn't be
> having this conversation.
If you had WRITTEN your post with the same as care as the FAQ has been,
we wouldn't be having this discussion.
[gems about evidence deleted]
>
> Yes, human reason does always come back to the existence of God, we're
> having this discussion are we not?
Jeez, do I have to point this out to you? This discussion is not all
instances of human reason. Therefore, your implication is false.
>
> Well this is interesting, Truth is to be determined by it politically
> correct content. Granted it's extremely unhip to be a WASP male, and
> anything European is contemptable, but I thought this kind of
> dialogue, the purpose of a.a, was to get at the truth of things. But
> then I remember the oxymoron, reasonalble atheist, and I understand.
How lame can you get. Who said anything about the 'truth' of things?
Read the FAQ very carefully, please. Then report your findings about
where it says the purpose of a.a is to find the 'truth' of things.
And stop impressing your own misguided image of atheists upon us. It's
really pissing me off.
>
> Bill
| 0alt.atheism |
Nabil Ayoub writes:
>As a final note, the Oriental Orthodox and Eastren Orthodox did sign a
>common statement of Christology, in which the heresey of >Monophysitism
was condemned. So the Coptic Orthodox Church does not >believe in
Monophysitism.
Sorry!
What does the Coptic Church believe about the will and energy of Christ?
Were there one or were there two (i.e. Human and Divine) wills and
energies in Him.
Also, what is the objection ot the Copts with the Pope of Rome (i.e. why
is there a Coptic Catholic Church)? Do you reject the supreme
jurisdiction of the 263rd sucessor of St. Peter (who blessed St. John
Mark, Bishop of Alexandria was translator for) and his predecessors? Or
his infallibility? Or what other things perhaps?
Andy Byler
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <C5uxGv.Dv7@panix.com> habs@panix.com (Harry Shapiro) writes:
>In <1r1om5$c5m@slab.mtholyoke.edu> jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
>writes:
>
>>Even more interesting: the SMTP server at csrc.ncsl.nist.gov no longer
>>recognizes the 'expn' and 'vrfy' commands...
>
>> telnet csrc.ncsl.nist.gov smtp
>> Trying 129.6.54.11...
>> Connected to csrc.ncsl.nist.gov.
>> Escape character is '^]'.
>> 220 first.org sendmail 4.1/NIST ready at Tue, 20 Apr 93 17:01:34 EDT
>> expn clipper
>> 500 Command unrecognized
>
>>Seems like sombody didn't like your snooping around, Marc.
>
>Then it is a good thing we already have this:
>
>The csspub mailing list: csspab@mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov, and address on
> [rest of names deleted]
Sigh... my version of 'rn' asked me whether I really want to send this
posting!
You may as well know that all this stuff about the secret source of the
Clipper announcement is because of a silly mistake. I am the administrator
of csrc.ncsl.nist.gov, alias first.org. It's a system set up to help out
the needs of FIRST, a Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams, which
includes a number of world-wide incident response teams such as CERT/CC and
other places in Europe. As to the VRFY and EXPN commands, they are normally
disabled, since early on we didn't want crackers to find out the names of
incident response folks on our mailing lists. We had a disk crash several
months ago which required completely rebuilding the O/S files - same old
story, our backups weren't especially helpful. As you can guess, I didn't
remember to re-disable VRFY and EXPN until I saw people on the net trying to
find out who was behind clipper@csrc... When I saw people's names posted
here, I felt it was time to clear things up. So, EXPN and VRFY on csrc have
always been disabled in the past for reasons having nothing to do with
Clipper.
I posted the White House announcements at the request of policy folks here
because csrc also provides Usenet service. I posted them from an account
called 'clipper.' I also created an alias called 'clipper' that contains
the addresses of members of the NIST Computer Security Privacy and Advisory
Board, set up under law of the Computer Security Act of 1987, and addresses
of other individuals not affiliated with NIST but involved in cryptography,
security, and privacy - I believe that these individuals were included on
this list because NIST felt it important to get them the Clipper information
first-hand.
The 'clipper' alias is there for the benefit of those named above. It is
not a source for information, it was set up solely to monitor any initial
traffic. Individuals on the list have requested that they continue to get
traffic that is not already duplicated on Usenet.
While you can rightfully say we were a bit disorganized in handling this,
I would ask that people stop speculating about any hidden agendas or motives
of the individuals on the 'clipper' alias - I've already apologized to them
for what's happened. Disabling EXPN and VRFY is an increasingly common
practice (albeit unfriendly to some), and any effect of disabling it again
was unintentional.
-John Wack
| 11sci.crypt |
I know people hate it when someone says somethings like "there was an article
about that somewhere a while ago" but I'm going to say it anyway. I read an
article on this subject, almost certainly in Space News, and something like
six months ago. If anyone is really interested in the subject I can probably
hunt it down given enough motivation.
--
Josh Hopkins jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"Tout ce qu'un homme est capable d'imaginer, d'autres hommes
seront capable de le realiser"
-Jules Verne
| 14sci.space |
In article <2346575PS380.9.0@sscl.uwo.ca> 2346575PS380@sscl.uwo.ca writes:
>Dino getting shots in front of the net, he should expect it. This is playoff
>hockey where anything goes. You lose one game in the regular season, and it's
>not so bad. You lose a game in the playoffs and it's a difficult thing to
>overcome. I've watched hockey (and played it too) for a number of years and
>I haven't seen one post-season game where the forward in front of the net
>has not finished without any bruises on the back of his leg. The Leafs are
>not doing a good job in clearing the net and Potvin has been forced to take
>matters into his own hands. I remember when Cicarelli used to play for the
>London Knights (OHL), he always was a nuisance in front of the net and the
>goalies took exception to this. He also complained (in this morning's paper)
>about what happened last night, but to me, it's a lot of bellyaching. His
>team is up 2-0 and he complains about being whacked...I wonder what would
>happen if he tried to do the same thing in front of Billy Smith or a younger
>Ron Hextall? Seems Dino would need two artifical legs. Dino should take it
>as part of the game and thank his lucky stars that he's in the playoffs and
>has a good chance to go the finals.
Well, I agree that if you're going to stand in front of the net,
that you should expect to get hit and hacked at. In general, you
should expect to finish the game with some bruises. However,
there is a fine line between hacking at a guy (causing some pain
and discomfort) and blatantly attempting to injure another
player. Felix Potvin, IMO, crossed that line on Wednesday. That
two hander on Ciccarelli was way out of line. I lost a lot of
respect for Potvin because of that. It showed an immaturity. He
did not slash at Ciccarelli to simply try to remove him from the
slot area (a legal position for Dino to be in). Instead, he
slashed in an attempt to injure. It was out of shear frustration. As a
Leaf supporter (just a supporter, I'm not a Leaf fan really), I
was very disappointed.
You're right in mentioning Billy Smith and Ron Hextall (at least
in his Philly days). They both crossed that same line at times and
for that reason, many fans (and players) disliked them (that's
why their names always comes up as examples when we talk about
these issues). Let's hope that Felix doesn't do that again. I'd
hate to see anyone (even Dino --- although I admit I don't like
him very much) get seriously hurt from such careless (but
intentional) use of the stick.
Gary
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5wI5n.19v@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com> max@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com (Max Webb) writes:
>In article <1993Apr16.193723.19050@asl.dl.nec.com> duffy@aslss02.asl.dl.nec.com (Joseph Duffy) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr16.173720.19151@scic.intel.com> sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth J. Bradley) writes:
>>>
>>>How does one falsify God's existance? This, again, is a belief, not a scien-
>>>tific premise. The original thread referred specifically to "scientific
>>>creationism". This means whatever theory or theories you propose must be
>>>able to be judged by the scientific method. This is in contrast to
>>>purely philosophical arguments.
>>>--
>>
>>How does one falsify any origin theory? For example, are a forever existing
>>universe or abiogenesis strictly falsifiable?
>
>Guess you must have slept through all the recent excitement when the
>COBE experiments confirmed a prediction of the Big Bang theory. Superstition
>resolves contradictions by postulating new miracles and "it just kinda sorta
>looks that way" (apparent age) - hence it never makes predictions. Science
>resolves contradictions by changing the theories involved.
>
>Too bad your programming does not allow you that luxury.
You sound absolutely convinced! Tell me how long did it last, what color
was it? It must be so exciting to know for sure. By the way, it seems as
though there is a fine line between "postulating new miracles" and postulating
new theories.
--
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| Joe Duffy duffy@asl.dl.nec.com |
| NEC America, Inc. |
| Advanced Switching Laboratory |
| 0alt.atheism |
I've got the following Lynx games for sale/trade. Make an offer.
Batman Returns
Pinball Jam
Paperboy
Gates of Zendecon
--
brian
oplinger@ra.crd.ge.com
<#include standard.disclaimer>
| 6misc.forsale |
bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
> I found a list of Biblical contradictions and cleaned it up a bit, but
> now I'd like some help with it.
[...]
> (And does anyone know who originally wrote this list?)
The copy on the mail-server@mantis.co.uk has the full list of credits. It
looks like you got an incomplete version.
mathew
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr18.225909.16116@colorado.edu> davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
} How does one read the betting spreads for baseball? They tend to be something
} like 8-9 which means it must not be runs!
that spread means you bet $5 on the underdog to win $8, or $9 on the
favorite to win $5.
-*-
charles
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <C5F6rJ.7BJ@NCoast.ORG>, actuary@NCoast.ORG (Steven M. Goldman) writes:
>>
>>So who will start this year's All Star game for the AL?
>
> Probably Alomar.
>
> Not to put him down; he's a great player. But it helps to have
> all the recognition he's had, plus to play in a city which is
> likely to pour in the votes...
I like Alomar. But I'd like to differ with your opinion about "a city
which is likely to pour in the votes...".
I attended many games last year during the balloting. I know that a
great number of the attendees DID NOT fill out their ballots, but left
them, beer soaked and torn on the floor of the stands. Toronto gets
no more and no less votes than any other city for the All Star game.
Unfortunately, this is not a one time thing. I've attended games
during the last four seasons, and it has happened every time. The
apathetic attitude to All Star ballots really offends me.
Ljs
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <May.11.02.36.29.1993.28068@athos.rutgers.edu>
ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei) writes:
>In article <May.9.05.38.49.1993.27375@athos.rutgers.edu> REXLEX@fnal.fnal.gov
writes:
>[much deleted]
>>point today might be the Masons. (Just a note, that they too worshipped
>>Osiris in Egypt...)
>[much deleted]
>
> It bugs me when I see this kind of nonsense.
>
> First, there is no reasonable evidence linking Masonry to ancient
>Egypt, or even that it existed prior to the late 14th century (and
>there's nothing definitive before the 17th).
My wifes uncle was a 30+ level mason. He let me look at some of the books
(which after his death his "brothers" came over and took from his greiving
widow before his body had even cooled). Don't tell me you don't worship
Osiris. You must not be past your 20th level. You should read Wilkinson's
Egyptians and how he shows this Egyptian religion paralleling his own British
Masonry. There is a man here at this laboratory who is a 33 degree black
mason. I've talked with him, though much he likes to hide ("mystery").
Special handshakes and all. When he first started trying to "evangelize" me,
he told me all kinds on special this, and special that. Here is truely a
"mystery" religion. THere is the public side with motorcyle mania and
childrens hospitals and then there is the priviate side that only the highest
degree mason every learns of.
>
> Second, worship of Osiris is not, nor has it ever been, a part of
>Masonic practice (we are strictly non-denominational).
>
I haven't read it, but the literature that is offered by the silver haired
apologist (can't remember his name) on TV, didn't exactly come to this same
conclusion.
"Khons, the son of the great goddess-mother, seems to have been gernaerally
represented as a full-grown god. The Babylonian divinity was also represented
very frequently in Egupt in the very same wayas in the land of his nativity
-i.e. as a child in his mother's arems. THis was the way in which Osiris, 'the
son, the husband of his mother,' was often exhibited, and what we learn of this
god, equally as in the case of Khonso, shows that in his original he was none
other than Nimrod. It is admitted that the secret system of Free Masonry was
originally founded on the Mysteries of the Egyptian Isis, the goddess-mother,
or wife of Osiris. But what could have led to the union of a Masonic body with
these Mysteries, had they not had particular reference to architecture, and had
the god who was worshipped in them not been celebrated for his success in
perfecting the arts of fortification and building? Now, if such were the case,
considering the relation in which, as we have already seen, Egypt stood to
Babylon, who would naturally be liiked up to there as the great patron of the
Masonic art? The strong presumption is, that Nimrod must have been the man.
He was the first that gained faim in this way. As the child of the Babylonian
goddess-mother, he was worshipped in the character of Ala mahozim, 'The God of
Fortification.' Osiris, the child of the Egyptian Modonna, was equally
celebrated as 'the strong chief of the buildings.' THis strong chief of the
buildings was origninally worshipped in Egypt with every physicall
characteristic of Nimrod. I have already noticed the fact that Nimrod, as the
son of Cush, was a negro. Now, there was a tradition in Egypt, recorded by
Plutarch, that 'Osiris was black'......." Hislop
It was like a cold slap to my face, when my wifes uncle brought out his
cerimonial dress and it was leopard skin. I mean real leopard skin. He told
me that only the highest of degrees wore the leopard skin. (The reason that he
started telling me all this was that he had just been given a couple of months
to live and my wife had led him to a saving faith in Christ and he immediately
repented from 'mysteries' of the lodge!)
Nimr-rod from Nimr, a "leopard," and rada or rad "To subdue." It is a
universal principle in all idolatries, that the high priest wears the insignia
of the god he serves. Any representation of Osiris usually show the wearing of
some leopard. It is interesting that the Druids of Britian also show, or
should I say hide, this representation. They, however, worshipped the "spotted
cow".
I'll stand by my statements. Masonry is of the "mystery" religions that all
find their source in Babylon, the great harlot. Sorry Peter, I do not mean to
be a "cold slap to the face" but there is to much evidence to the contrary that
Masonry doesn't find its origins in Egypt. Of the Masons I have personally
talked to, all refered to Egypt as their origin. Why are you now separating
yourself from this which not many years ago, was freely admitted?
-Rex
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr19.193528.5655@cs.ucla.edu> geoff@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Geoffrey Kuenning) writes:
>In article <2073@rwing.UUCP> pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes:
>
>> fishing expeditions without the target's knowlege. Don't give up the
>> right to be safe from that - that should be non-negotiable, and Clinton
>> and Co. know it (which is probably why they quietly developed this thing,
>> figuring if they get it this far, they can ram it on through).
>
>It always amazes me how quick people are to blame whatever
>administration is current for things they couldn't possibly have
>initiated. This chip had to take *years* to develop, yet already
>we're claiming that the Clinton administration sneaked it in on us.
>Bullshit. The *Bush* administration and the career Gestapo were
>responsible for this horror, and the careerists presented it to the
>new presidency as a fait accompli. That doesn't excuse Clinton and
>Gore from criticism for being so stupid as to go for it, but let's lay
>the body at the proper door to start with.
You are so correct - Clinton did not initiate it. He just cast it in
GRANITE by implimenting, NOT stopping the DECISION. I also stated in another
post I don't give a damn what administration does it, I still find it
totally unacceptable, and whoever impliments it or rams it down our throats
ought to be run out of office.
Also, Bush was not trying to deprive us of our Second Amendment rights.
Clinton is BUSTING HIS BUTT in that regard. That reveals a total difference
in philosophy. Clinton appears to support the idea of TOTAL people
control. Eavesdropping whenever they feel like it, no real security
for the common person, and no ability to defend oneself against illegal
attack, from whatever source. "Trust us, we will protect (and control)
you... if we don't find it inconvenient..."
Clinton has also shown his utter contempt for public disclosure and
accountability, as well. He had plenty of time to change the policy.
HE DIDN'T. HE EXPANDED ON IT.
I bet had Bush been in office, you would be in there howling louder
than I.
--
pat@rwing.uucp [Without prejudice UCC 1-207] (Pat Myrto) Seattle, WA
If all else fails, try: ...!uunet!pilchuck!rwing!pat
WISDOM: "Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity,
and I am not sure about the former." - Albert Einstien
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1qvs9t$q3f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Charles P. Cox, Jr. <cox@snowhite.eeap.cwru.edu> writes:
>Question for those familiar with Quadra VRAM:
>I put 2 256K VRAM SIMMs in my Quadra 700 (in the 2 slots closest to the
>RAM SIMM slots) and I got no results whatsoever. I have been told that
>the built-in video should support at least 16bit and maybe 24bit color on
>a Macintosh Color Display. However, the Monitors control panel still
>lists 8bit (256 colors) as the highest possible.
the Q700 will only do 8bit or 24bit color. if you want the higher
color depth, it's 2MB's of VRAM altogether for a monitor up to 16".
for a 21" monitor, you can get 8bit max.
hope this answers your questions.
James Wang.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Simple, eh?
Rather get 'em used than new... must guarantee...
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr20.233724.26553@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>mre@teal.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Eisler) writes:
>>gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>>>I can't believe that ESPN is making SportsChannel America look good.
>>
>>But only in NY,NJ, Philadelphia, and Chicago. Everywhere else, the only
>>reason SportsChannel was available was for local baseball broadcasts.
>
>Yes, a point well-taken ... however, even in areas that finally got
>some games, there's something nagging in the back of your skull when
>the network that has the national rights in its pocket says on its
>sports news, "There's an awesome overtime going on in Quebec City,
>and we'll *try* to get you an update through the show ..." when you
>know that it's on a satellite's feedhorn somewhere up there ...
Listen guys you can talk about this the whole playoffs. I'm here in a
small town in southern Illinois at school. I'm from Canada and I know
that cbc and tsn have games on every night, all you have to do is go to
a bar with a satellite. I have watched both games between Mon Que and
toronto and detroit, not to mention Van vs Winn and with cbc. They
show all goals from every game that evening so I haven't missed a goal
all playoffs. Well have to go boy leafs are on Ciao.
Roger Guagliano
Eastern Illinois University
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
MJMUISE@1302.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Muise) writes:
> In article <C4wKBp.B9w@eskimo.com>, maven@eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) writes:
> > What is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling? Couple hours
> > after you "feel" sober? What? Or should I just work with "If I drink
> > tonight, I don't ride until tomorrow"?
>
> 1 hr/drink for the first 4 drinks.
> 1.5 hours/drink for the next 6 drinks.
> 2 hours/drink for the rest.
I took an alcohol server's class a few years ago. (What the hey- my employer
paid for it...)
We were told that the 1 drink / hour rule was written with 80 proof booze
and a 195 pound person in mind. Drinking Cuervo Gold, weighing in @ 140,
I obviously will get drunk faster than the theoretical person mentioned
above. Worse, imagine Rum & coke made with Bacardi 151...
Mind you all, that's for getting too drunk to drive a car. I may only
have been riding for a month or so, but I plan my evenings with a very
rigid exclusive or statement: Either don't drink, or don't ride.
Pretty simple.
>
> These are fairly cautious guidelines, and will work even if you happen to
> have a low tolerance or body mass.
> I think the cops and "Don't You Dare Drink & Drive" (tm) commercials will
> usually say 1hr/drink in general, but after about 5 drinks and 5 hrs, you
> could very well be over the legal limit.
> Watch yourself.
> -Mike
Sorry, mike, I have to believe that that policy works best as fertilizer,
even if all you plan to do is drive home nice and "safe" in your cage...
> ________________________________________________
> / Mike Muise / mjmuise@1302.watstar.uwaterloo.ca \ no quotes, no jokes,
> \ Electrical Engineering, University of Waterloo / no disclaimer, no fear.
--
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dean@fringe.rain.com | It's a socio-psychotic state of Bliss..."
'82 Virago 920 | -Guns'n'Roses, 'My World'
DoD # 0866
| 8rec.motorcycles |
amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
>Yes, those evil guys in the FBI can probably, with some
>effort, abuse the system. I got news for you, if the evil guys in
>the FBI decide they want to persecute you, they're gonna, ...
And if Richard Nixon had had this kind of toy, he wouldn't have had
to send people into the Watergate.
But that's not really the issue. The real issue is whether this
will be used to justify a ban against individuals' use of private
(i.e., anything else) encryption methods.
Unrelated question...isn't the term "Clipper," as neat as it is,
already taken by Intergraph?
Al
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1465@minya.UUCP> jc@minya.UUCP (John Chambers) writes:
<It seems silly, but while I've located things like tgif that can edit
<gif files, and various tools to convert to/from gif format, I haven't
<been able to locate a program that just opens a window and displays a
<gif file in it. I've looked thru various faq files, also to no avail.
<Is there one lurking about in some archive? Nothing sophisticated;
<just "show the pretty picture"?
<
<Alternatively, if I could locate the specs for gif, I don't suppose it
<would be too hard to write it myself, but I have no idea where to even
<start looking for the spec. (Well, actually, I do have an idea - this
<newsgroup. ;-)
Get, xv, version 3.0. It reads/displays/manipulates many different formats.
--
harvard\
ucbvax!uwvax!astroatc!ftms!brown or uu2.psi.com!ftms!brown
rutgers/
INTERNET: brown@wi.extrel.com or ftms!brown%astroatc.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr23.110149.29470@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz
(Peter Gutmann) writes:
>
>Something similar has happened to me - ages ago when we were working on PGP
>we used to send short messages about development issues or simply to test
>new features around. Now at this time PGP (and certainly the newer version)
>was unknown over here. Suddenly the admin at the site I was using received
>a request that I stop sending encrypted email. Now there is almost no way
>that some automatic scanner could have found this, since they wouldn't have
>known about PGP - they *must* have checked for unknown data types in the
>message, tried to unscramble it, found they couldn't get past the PEM
>armour part, and then contacted the sysadmin and asked me to stop. Luckily
>the current email carriers are less picky about what goes over their
>networks :-).
Is the sending of encrypted traffic without government permission legal in
New Zealand?
David
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our information, errors and omissions excepted.
| 11sci.crypt |
Hello Netters,
I would like to find out information about a device that is used on vans and
trucks. This device is a step that hooks onto the tire and folds up for
storage. I've seen this device on TNN's Shady Tree Mechanic. I would like to
know if it is a good product and I would also like the price and address
of where I can purchase this product.
Thanks,
George Chan
Email: syst8145@ryevm.ryerson.ca
| 7rec.autos |
In <2942956021.3.p00261@psilink.com> "Robert Knowles" <p00261@psilink.com> writes:
>>DATE: Sat, 3 Apr 1993 10:00:39 GMT
>>FROM: Fred Rice <darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
>>
>>In <1p8ivt$cfj@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>>
>>>Should we British go around blowing up skyscrapers next?
>>
>>I don't know if you are doing so, but it seems you are implying
>>(1) that the person accused of blowing up the WTC in NY actually did it,
>>and
>>(2) that Islamic teachings have something to do with blowing up the WTC.
>>
>>[WTC = World Trade Centre, which was the building that was blown up, I
>>think.]
>>
>>Okay... to make some comments...
>>
>>(1) The person has only been accused -- innocent until proven guilty,
>>remember? Secondly, there seem to be some holes in his accusation that
>>I read about. For instance, if they guy used that particular van to
>>blow up the building, and then to go back and claim his deposit back
>>afterwards, he must be incredibly stupid.
>Perhaps Salamen was one of those "uneducated" Muslims we hear so much about.
>>Nevertheless, he was
>>apparently smart enough to put together a very sophisticated bomb. It
>>doesn't seem to fit together, somehow.
>Actually, Salameh was not the ONLY person involved. The other fellow was
>a chemical engineer working for Allied Signal who had specifically studied
>explosive devices in school (believe it or not - we actually allow radical
>Muslim types to study things like this in our universities - so much for
>the price of freedom)
From what I read, the other fellow told Salameh how to put it together
over the phone. The bomb was supposedly some sort of sophisticated
type, so to put a (I assume complicated) sophisticated bomb together
from instructions _over the phone_ (!) one must need some brains I would
expect.
>>Despite this, there have
>>already been many attacks and threats against mosques and Muslims in the
>>United States as a consequence of his accusation, I have read.
>>
>O.K., now please tell us where this is happening. I live in the U.S. and
>I have heard very little about these mosque attacks. There are many mosques
>in Houston, Texas and I would like to know what is going on so I can verify
>this. Or is the Great Jewish Media Conspiracy keeping us from knowing about
>this in the U.S. We heard about the mosque attacks during the Desert Storm
>venture, so why is it so quiet now? Maybe it is localized to New Jersey?
I read this in an article in "The Australian Muslim Times", the
newspaper (weekly) of the Australian Muslim community.
If this is true, perhaps one of the Muslims based in North America (if
they see this posting) can elaborate.
>>(2) Islamic teachings teach against harming the innocent. In the Qur'an
>>it explicitly teaches against harming innocents even in times of war.
>>The blowing up of the WTC and harming innocents is therefore in blatant
>>contradiction to Islamic teachings.
>This means absolutely nothing. Plenty of people commit violence while
>following what they think are valid religious principles. I have seen
>people post many things here from the Koran which could be "misinterpreted"
>(if that is the explanation you wish to use) by an "uneducated" Muslim to
>allow them to harm idolators and unbelievers. The first thing every Muslim
>says is that no Muslim could have done that because Islam teaches against
>harming innocents. And we are supposed to take you WORD that it NEVER
>happens. What do you think is the consequence? Does Allah strike them
>down before the "alleged" violence occurs? Of course not. Muslims commit
>the violent act and then everyone hides behind verses in the Koran. We're
>pretty hip to that trick. And I even doubt that it will come up in the
>trials.
>"My defense is that I am Muslim and Islam teaches me not to harm the innocent.
>Therefore, the people who were killed must not have been innocent. Sure we
>set off the bomb, your honor, but you must remember, sir, I am a Muslim.
>Allah is all-powerful. Allah would not have allowed this. Are you insulting
>my religion?"
>Great defense, eh?
>Just admit that there are some incredibly stupid, violent Muslims in the
>world and stop hiding from that fact. It does no one any good to deny it.
>It only makes the more reasonable Muslims look like they are protecting the
>bad ones. Can you see that?
I don't deny this fact.
The thrust of my argument here is that
(a) Salameh is, according to US law, innocent as he has not been found
guilty in a court of law. As his guilt has not been established, it is
wrong for people to make postings based on this assumption.
(b) Islam teaches us _not_ to harm innocents. If Muslims -- who perhaps
have not realized that Islam teaches this -- perform such actions, it is
_not_ _because_ of the teachings of Islam, but rather _in spite of_ and
_in contradiction to_ the teachings of Islam. This is an important
distinction.
I should clarify what Muslims usually mean when they say "Muslim". In
general, anyone who calls themselves a "Muslim" and does not do or
outwardly profess
something in clear contradiction with the essential teachings of Islam
is considered to be a Muslim. Thus, one who might do things contrary to
Islam (through ignorance, for example) does not suddenly _not_ become a
Muslim. If one knowingly transgresses Islamic teachings and essential
principles, though, then one does leave Islam.
The term "Muslim" is to be contrasted with "Mu'min", which means "true
believer". However, whether a Muslim is in reality a Mu'min is
something known only by God (and perhaps that person himself). So you
will not find the term Mu'min used very much by Muslims in alt.atheism,
because it is not known to anybody (except myself and God), whether I,
for example, am a "true believer" or not. For example, I could just be
putting on a show here, and in reality believe something opposite to
what I write here, without anyone knowing. Thus, when we say "Muslims"
we mean all those who outwardly profess to follow Islam, whether in
practice they might, in ignorance, transgress Islamic teachings. By
"Muslim" we do not necessarily mean "Mu'min", or "true believer" in
Islam.
Fred Rice
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
| 0alt.atheism |
try comp.dcom - I was reading a thread a while back about an 800 number
that you could dial. worked here. It was a sales line for sprint I think
telling you that you could have all your customers numbers using there
ANI, then it told you your number. Should work with any modern switch.
mycal
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\ //
Mycal's way of skiing moguls: // \
turn, turn, turn, air, survive, survive, survive... No Risk, No Rush
| 12sci.electronics |
Most of you will have probably seen the news by the time you read this,
but the Branch Davidian compound is no more. This morning about 6:00,
the feds punched holes in the compound walls by using a tank. They
then started using non-lethal tear gas. Shortly after noon, 2 cult
members were seen setting fire to the compound. So far, about 20-30
people have been seen outside the compound. The fate of the other 60 or
70 people is unknown, neither is the fate of the 17 children that were
inside. The compound did burn to the ground.
Koresh, who at times has claimed to be the Messiah, but then backed off
and only claimed to be a prophet, had promised several times to come
out peacefully if his demands were met. First, he demanded that his
message be broadcast on the radio, which it was, but he didn't come out.
He claimed to be waiting for a message from God. Finally, he said that
God told him that he needed to decipher the mystery of the 7 seals in
Revelation, and when he was finished, he'd come out. He finished the
first one, but didn't do any more work that anyone knows of since then.
The federal agents did warn him that if they didn't come out, they
would be subjected to tear gas.
I think it's really sad that so many people put their faith in a mere
man, even if he did claim to be the son of God, and/or a prophet. I
think it underscores the importance of putting you faith only in
things that are eternal and knowing for yourself what the Scriptures
say and what they mean, instead of relying on others to do it for you,
even if those others are learned and mean well.
Paul Conditt
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr15.123803.4618@webo.dg.com> lyford@dagny.webo.dg.com (Lyford Beverage) writes:
>In article <1993Apr13.202037.9485@cs.cornell.edu>, tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>|> In article <rudyC5Fr3q.1CL@netcom.com> rudy@netcom.com (Rudy Wade) writes:
>|> >In article <C5FMxD.2pM@cs.dal.ca> niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma) writes:
>|> >>. He probably didn't even have as good a season as
>|> >>Alomar last year.
>|> >
[snip]
>|> Uh, yes. Baerga has a lot of flash, but Alomar was the better hitter
>|> last year.
>|>
[stats deleted - we've all seen them by now]
>This is fascinating. You say that Alomar was the better hitter last
>year, and immediately follow that up with numbers showing that Baerga
>had a better year. The only category that I see which shows an advantage
>for Alomar is OBP.
I nominate this last bit for "Anti-Stathead Quote of the Week".
Alomar only has a 50 point advantage in the most important offensive
category, while Baerga, who studied in the Joe Carter School of Out-Burning,
has more impressive mediot stats, largely due to opportunities rather
than quality.
The lines are fairly close in value, but edge to Alomar.
Now Baerga ain't chopped liver, but Alomar is still the man to beat among
AL second basemen...
--Craig
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr15.202811.29312@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) says:
>
>>I have been at a shooting range where
>>gang members were "practicing" shooting.
>
>How do "we" know that they were gang members and not undercover cops
>or even law-abiding menacing minorities. BTW - Why the sneer quotes?
>
"We" know because the area that the gun shop/shooting range is in is right on
the border of the west side of Chicago. That is a gang infested area. There
are many, many bad things going on in that area. Also, I have several friends
that live very close to that area who have had problems with some of these
folks. By the way, where did I say that they were minorities? Do you think
that only minorities have gangs? Not so. As far as the quotes are concerned
it was totally obvious that they weren't just practicing for marksmanship. I
don't know about you but I have never seen anyone else practice marksmanship by
taking their gun out of their coat as fast as possible and start shooting. If
you would have been there Andy it would've been obvious to you too. Of course
it might not have been. Who knows. All I do know is that I was there, I live
here and I know that they were gang bangers. When you live here long enough it
becomes pretty easy to spot them via gang colors, gang signs, etc. One last
thing. My sister is a social worker. She makes it her point to find these
things out (gang signs, colors, etc) because it is in her best interest to do
so. She is nice enough to let me know these things so I can watch out for
myself as I live right on the border of the west side of the city. Enough said.
Jason
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I am looking for a text/reference that will include pinouts,
description, and functionality for just about any IC made.
Does such a text exist? Are there docs on the Internet that
reference IC's? It would be a great idea if each major
IC manufacturer made available to the public an anonymous
FTP site with all it's data books in the form of text files.
(ala RFC style). This would save time and money for the
IC manufacturer since a text file costs nothing to send
around the world via internet and since most users of
IC's
are found in the internet anyway.
Are there any books available for purchase that reference
(as many as possible)? Or am I going to be stuck obtaining
a zillion databooks from the manufacturers (those little
phonebook-type books that are obsoleted every couple years)
:-(
| 12sci.electronics |
Good points. In addition, I would point out that now is one of the
best times to fight this political battle, with much of the opposition
in disarray -- an FBI director (Sessions) on his way out, an Attorney
General (Reno) who has only been in long enough to find the office coffee
machine two tries out of three (and, between slow confirmations and
Clinton's Saturday Night Massacre, hasn't much of a staff in place).
If we really get lucky, both of the above will be too busy trying to
keep their feet from being held to the Waco fire to spend much effort
insisting on their alleged right to spy on the American people.
"I swear to you, we aren't finished yet." -- James T. Kirk, ST III
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <93112.230800MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <93112.153005MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>,
><MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> says:
>>From A.P. : According to numerous accounts by those in the compound,
>>the fire was started by an armoured vehicle crushing a large propane
>>tank, and turning over numerous gas lanterns.
>
>Oh? Then why did the smoke and flames start from three different places?
>In particular, three different places where there were no APV's?
>
And just where is the evidence for this? FBI sayso. The Texas Medical
Examiner refuted 2 of their lies today.
>And if the government did start the fire, then why weren't people trying
>to get out of the compound?
Let me put you in a building, pump in CS, knock the walls down around
you and see how fast you find an exit.
>And besides... oh, I don't know why I'm even bothering.
>
I don't know why either, you're willing to swallow everything fed you.
Good boy.
>>I find it tremendously chilling that so many people seem willing to accept
>>the governments story, despite much evidence to the contrary.
>
>I find it tremendously chilling that so many people seem eager to believe
>a murderous, heavily-armed religious cult, despite much evidence to the
>contrary. Thought Experiment: Suppose this exact same thing happened under
>the Bush administration. What would your answer be then? Would you still
>prefer to believe the cultists?
Oh a Clinton apologist, why didn't you *say* so.
>(No, I don't really expect a response to that challenge.)
>
>>But then
>>again, that is how Mr. Clinton was elected, by people who believe that
>>his campaign promisses would be respected by him once he got into office.
>
>Um, isn't that how all politicians are elected?
>
>>If people will believe that of any politican, it is little wonder they
>>will believe all of the factoids being given out as fact by the
>>Clinton/Reno/FBI/BATF confederation.
>
>So is there any particular reason the gummint decided to slaughter eighty
>people? Are they, like, just plain evil, or what? Did they just wake up
>one day, stretch and yawn, and throw a dart at a map of the United States
>to figure out who to oppress that day? I'm eager to know.
The kgBATF was expecting a quick victory while the cameras rolled,
however, they were the only ones with a script.
>And does Bill Clinton have cooler theme music than Darth Vader? How is he
>on diabolical laughter? Does he look good in a cape? These things MUST be
>investigated. You first.
Hey, you're the apologist, *you* tell us.
> "...so I propose that we destroy the moon, neatly solving that problem."
>[Your blood pressure just went up.] Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
> DISCLAIMER: If PSU knew I had opinions, they'd try to charge me for them.
--
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
Anyone who worries about his own gun should not have one. If you carry
any pistol with a empty chamber and safety the chances of it going off
are about zero. Unless you sit it on top of a lite stove for a couple
of minutes or put it in a fire. :-)
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
dhancock@teosinte.agron.missouri.edu (Denis Hancock) writes:
> [A very nice article on the DSS, which I thought answered
> David Cruz-Uribe's original queries quite well]
Here are some books I have read recently that helped me not only
prepare for a 5 week series I taught in Sunday School, but greatly
increased my knowledge of the Qumran scrolls. [...]
One other recent book I would heartily recommend is Joseph Fitzmyer's
_Response to 101 Questions about the Dead Sea Scrolls_ (Paulist,
1992).
Fitzmyer is one of the preeminent modern NT scholars. He was also one
of the early workers on the DSS. His book is written in a
straightforward Q&A that allows it to serve as a source for a great
wealth of clearly presented basic, up-to-the-moment information about
the DSS.
(This book is something of a companion volume to Raymond Brown's
_Response to 101 Questions about the Dead Sea Scrolls_.)
Nichael
Pop Quiz: What's wrong with the cover of this book? ;)
| 15soc.religion.christian |
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| 13sci.med |
In article <kmr4.1696.735588167@po.CWRU.edu>, kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
>
> [34mAnd now . . . [35mDeep Thoughts[0m
> [32mby Jack Handey.[0m
>
> [36mIf you go parachuting, and your parachute doesn't open, and your
> friends are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag would be
> to pretend you were swimming.[0m
You fall if it opens, too.
Gravity: it's not just a good idea; it's the law.
Dean Kaflowitz
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <bob1.734909414@cos> bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
>In <1993Apr14.045526.21945@cactus.org> boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle) writes:
>
>>In article <1qg19v$5ju@umcc.umcc.umich.edu> mhartman@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Mark Hartman) writes:
>>Driving 130 in a straight line is fine, you very soon become aclimated
>>to it. It's only a rush when there are corners that you don't
>>think you can make.
>
>>On a clear autobahn, 130 is nothing. In the U.S. 99% of people and
>>all judges would label you insane and it is difficult to persuade
>>people otherwise.
>
>Sure, but the surface condition of most good autobahns is far better
The quality of autobahns is something of a myth. The road surface
isn't much different to a typical TX freeway. They are better
in terms of lighting, safety, signs, roadmarkings etc. I'd have
no problem driving 130 on most US freeways, as it is, I save it
for the backroads, which really are more likely to be dangerous.
>than most of the roads here. A dip in the asphalt that you test your
>shocks on at 60 will kill you at 130. Don't get me wrong, I love to
It would have to be quite severe. I don't recall any US freeway,
without road damage warnings, that i would regard as unsafe
at 130 in any decent, well damped car. Note that my definition
of decent, well damped, would exclude most typical American sedans.
>drive quickly and they say my Probe will do 130, but that's 30 more
>than I've ever tried in it cause there isn't a decent enough piece
>of road hereabouts.
I don't know where you live, but I would be much more worried
about cops, other traffic etc. than the road surface at 130.
It just isn't that fast or that dangerous. If you have a Probe
GT, no problem. The 4cyl models I have driven would be
likely to be unpredictable at higher speeds.
Craig
>
>>Craig
>>>
>>>--
>>> Mark Hartman mhartman@umcc.umcc.umich.edu
>>> Kalamazoo, MI bk405@cleveland.freenet.edu
>>> "I'm naked in the school!" - Sleepyhead -
>>>
>
>Bob
>
>
| 7rec.autos |
Texas Instruments TI-81 calculalor. Excellent scientific calculator.
best offer.
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr23.143857.5484@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>, kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:
[...deleted...]
>
> Hear, hear! I'd also like to see the autopsy reports confirm news reports
> that multiple victims were found shot (in the head), and in positions
> inconsistent with fire victims. It is simply too early to draw conclusions
> either way about this nasty incident, but I tend to believe the government
> side. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ^^^^
> --
At least you're consistent. I'm sure the highly propagandized Germans
tended to believe their government's version too in the thirties and
forties as those "different" highly demonized Jewish "cultists" met
their fate. Always trust your government.
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <C5HHKo.1ry@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu> mobasser@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu (Bijan Mobasseri) writes:
>> There are two simple procedures for alterating any odometer.
>>
>>1. Mechanical driven odometer:
>> Remove the speedo cable from the transmission.
>> Attach a drill and run at max speed until the speedo turns over.
>> Continue until the desired mileage is reached.
>====================================
>Admittedly an irrelavent question:for how long should the drill be running?
>
>Bijan
A verrrrrry long time, like on the order of days. I had the pleasure of
doing that once (playing with the speedo cable) and with my B&D heavy duty at
full speed (600 rpm) all the speedo ever got up to was 30 MPH. Now if you go
a high speed drill and ran it at say 4000 rpm, you could get 200 MPH out of
it. (If you speedo doesn't burn out.) Anyways, to roll a 100000 Mile
odometer would take 22 days or so. Much easier just to take the speedo
apart.
Thought I'd share. BTW, all this info was obtained legally :-)
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <CMM.0.90.2.735132009.thomasp@surt.ifi.uio.no>, Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>Gun clubs:
>If you are a member you CAN borrow weapons....(Suprised??)
>You are supposed to train with a .22 for the 6 months, THEN
>you can start with anything bigger.
>
>Drivers licence:
>Forgot that USA is THE land of cars.....
>Getting one in Scandinavia (and northern europe) is not easy.
>Average time is about 20 hours of training, and the cost is rather......
>But we think this is acceptable because a car is NOT a toy, and
>bad drivers tend to hurt OTHERS.
>(If you are really bad, you WON'T get a lincence!)
>
>Abuse by the goverment:
>This seems to be one of the main problems; Any harder gun-control
>would just be abused by the goverment.(!)
>Either some of you are a little paranoid (no offence...) OR you should
>get a new goverment. (You do have elections??)
Unfortunately, elections can, and are, bought. Promise the voters money, and
they will vote for you.
>
>Guns 'n Criminals:
>MOST weapons used by criminals today are stolen.
>Known criminals can NOT buy weapons, that's one of the points of gun control.
Same here. Convicted felons may not legally purchase firearms.
>And because gun control are strict in WHOLE scandinavia (and most of europe),
>we dont have any PROBLEM with smuggled guns.
That you know of.
While I lived in the DBR, a gang robbed a joint US Army/Bundewehr armoury and
got several hundred M-16s, ammunition, handguns and some explosives. When I
left two years later, there were no clues.
>
>Mixing weapons and things that can be use as one:
>What I meant was that cars CAN kill, but they are not GUNS!
>Someone said that if we 'ban' guns we'd have to ban cars to, because they 'kill' to...
>I don't think we should argue on this one..... ;)
>
>The issue (I hope..):
>I think we all agree that the criminals are the main problem.
>Guns are not a problem, but the way they are used is.... (and what are they for??)
Who uses them is the problem. Crime, in the U.S., is "no big deal" if you are
the criminal. How about 5 years for murder. Credit for time served (in jail,
waiting for trial) and you are out in 12 months, worst case. If we would put
criminals, especially violent ones, in the slam for true sentences, crime would
drop. Instead, we reward them for being good and let them out early, very
early.
>
>I think this discusion is interesting when you think of (ex)Jugoslavia:
>They should all have weapons, it's their rigth to have them, and if they use them
>to kill other (Innocent) people the problem is humans, not guns.
Serbs, Croats and Muslims have been killing each other almost since before the
invention of guns. Old women are throwing stones at UN trucks. This is a
hatred that goes beyond reason.
>
>If 50% of ALL murders was done with axes, would you impose some regulations on them
>or just say that they are ment to be used at trees, and that the axe is not a problem,
>it's the 'axer' ??
>(An example, don't flame me just because not exactly 50% are killed by guns...)
Yes, the problem is the user. Question back (since you are one of the rational
ones): If all gun crime were to stop, would you support dropping all gun
controls?
>
>Think about the situation in Los Angeles where people are buying guns to protect
>themselves. Is this a good situation ?? Is it the rigth way to deal with the problem ??
They did not believe, from experience, that the "police" (including National
Guard) could/would protect them. Unless you want to argue that a human being
does not have a right to protect him/herself, they did the right thing. What
would you suggest as a defense against a mob throwing bottles and rocks, and
also likely armed with stolen firearms?
>
>If everybody buys guns to protect themselves from criminals (and their neighbor who have
>guns) what do you think will happen ?? (I mean if everybody had a gun in USA)
Criminals would move to Scandinavia??? :-) The average criminal would look for
a less hazardous job, and the rest would likely be buried at county expense.
>
>Don't flame the Englishmen because of Northern Irland, they have gun control that works
>(in England) and fonds from USA are one of the reasons why IRA can bomb innocents...
>(Something about throwing stones in glass houses...)
Personally, I criticize the fools who send money to the IRA to "make Ireland
free". Of course, this is the last thing the IRA wants, because they lose
power if England pulls out. But that's for another group.
>Don't flame them because of what to (three?) children did either.
The U.S. has roughly 20 times the major sporting events as the U.K.. How many
riots did we have at sporting events last year (off the playing field)?
Hooligan is a word never used when reffering to sports fans here. I guess
that's where the different cultures thing comes in.
>(Can an Jugoslav have an oppinion on guns or even peace??) (YES!)
Yes. The question is, is the problem one of too many guns (mostly from the
army) or not enough (nonSerbians can not defend themselves.
>
>(My numbers about crime rates after restrictions on shot-guns are from the police
>and the Statistisk Sentralbyraa) (understood that one Sorenson??)
>
>LAST WORD:
>Responsible gun owners are not a problem, but they will be affected if you want to protect
>your citicens.
But disarming responsible gun owners is not the solution. Yet, that is exactly
what HCI is proposing.
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
Just got a ss24X based on its good ratings, but am a little
under-impressed. First, is it's performance in 16.7 mill. supposed
to be comparable to a Trident 8900 (or other unaccelerated VGA)? I
came up with only OK performance on WinSpeed. In 256, it was between
good and great. Second, does anyone know where to get that JPG viewer
"for the SS24X". I saw it on cica or something. Does it work better.
Thanks for any help.
Greg
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Kuo-Sheng (Kasey) Chang (kschang@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu) wrote:
> In article <1993Apr23.102935.17390@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
> sjmadsen@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Steve Madsen) writes:
> > This is not a good idea.. I upgraded my motherboard last fall. I >would
> have been quite pissed at any software that would have forced me to
> >reinstall simply because I changed motherboards. >
> Opinion is understandable. :-) I assume you have a tape drive? Not all
> of us have about 200 floppies around for backup, you know.
Actually, no I don't have a tape drive. In the event of a total
hard disk failure, I reinstall the apps from originals, and restore the data
from the backups I keep of that. With upwards of 100Mb of stuff on my hard
disk, there is no way I'm going to try and back it all up without a tape
drive. :) Would be nice to have one though!
> RAM is something you add all the time, so no. It's more like BIOS
> manufacturer and/or processor type (386/486/etc). Data cannot be used,
> esp with these new Flash ROM BIOS machines with updates on a diskette.
Maybe, maybe not. Today it doesn't happen as often (I would hope),
but then if a BIOS is buggy and the user gets an upgrade, the BIOS
information is going to change, at least the date anyway. Tagging the BIOS
manufacturer is still going to falsely tag those users who upgrade the
motherboard. This type of upgrade doesn't require a hard disk
backup/restore.
> On the other hand, to make this LESS intrusive it could be disguised as
> "Please Insert Original Disk #XX as I need file YYYYYY for update". :-)
> It would be perfectly reasonable... Sort of.
As long as it wasn't done too terribly often. Otherwise I think it
would get annoying and the user would go looking for other software.
> > > This is silly. It's much easier to loan disks to a friend and let
> >them do an install than to backup your copy already on disk, and then
> give >them that. Your scheme isn't going to stop anyone.
> Of course it is easier. Are you saying then the originals SHOULD allow
> only one install? What is your point?
Of course not. If something gets corrupted and my app needs to be
reinstalled, the *worst* thing I want that software telling me is "this
software has already been registered to <blank> and it is against the law to
install it on other machines." Or something similar; Access for Windows
does this and it only requires a click on "OK" to go away. Pretty
non-intrusive, but it gets the point across.
> What I said was the program should have certain restriction (such as the
> restrict-to-one-machine) UNTIL the program is registered with the
> manufacturer. The manufacturer will then supply the
> then-proven-legitimate-user with a patch that will disable the restriction
> and PROUDLY PROCLAIM the legal copy with the "Registered to XXX" screen.
This is a great idea. I like the key system that some shareware
products use. The only problem is that it will be difficult for big
software companies to implement this without it getting very
cost-ineffective for them and more of a burden than a benefit to the users.
--
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Ask me about Linux, the free 386 unix!
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr14.174857.28314@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dje@bmw535.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Don Eilenberger) writes:
}In article <1993Apr14.153740.18542@nimbus.com>, jimiii@nimbus.com (Jim Warford) writes:
}|> There are two simple procedures for alterating any odometer.
}|>
}|> 1. Mechanical driven odometer:
}|> Remove the speedo cable from the transmission.
}|> Attach a drill and run at max speed until the speedo turns over.
}|> Continue until the desired mileage is reached.
}|>
}|> 2. Electronically driven odometer:
}|> Remove the sensor wire from the sensor.
}|> Attach the Calibration out signal from an Oscope to the wire.
}|> Run until the speedo turns over and attains the desired mileage.
}
}Dear Faster.. I kinda wonder.. have you ever tried version 2? On what?
}Since the sensor wire on a BMW feeds also into the computer.. and we
}don't know what signal voltage is expected from it.. bad things
}*could* happen... also since we don't know the pulse rate, we
}may damage the analog part of the speedo (yes.. BMW uses a combined
}instrument.. speed in analog, trip and total milage is digital) with
}the needle pegged up against the 160MPH stop..
}
}Just a thought...
You've got the oscilliscope, so you connect it up to the sensor wire
and measure this stuff. That way you know what it expects.
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Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures. Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
| 12sci.electronics |
I have a group of GIF images that each contain 6 small images in
the same place on all the images. I need a program to crop out the
small images to a new GIF file. All the programs I can find make me
use the mouse or keyboard to define the cropping coordinates. Is there
a program out there for a PC that can take the crop coordinates on
the command line?
reply to: max@slinky.cs.nyu.edu (David Max)
| 1comp.graphics |
|
| In article <BUZZ.93Apr19101538@lion.bear.com> buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti) write
| >In article <WHALEY.93Apr15103931@sigma.kpc.com> whaley@sigma.kpc.com (Ken Whaley) writes:
| >> Actually, I must also ask the FAQ's #1 most popular reason why graphics
| >> don't show up: do you wait for an expose event before drawing your
| >> rectangle?
| >
| >Suppose you have an idle app with a realized and mapped Window that contains
| >Xlib graphics. A button widget, when pressed, will cause a new item
| >to be drawn in the Window. This action clearly should not call XCopyArea()
| >(or equiv) directly; instead, it should register the existence of the new
| >item in a memory structure and let the expose event handler take care
| >of rendering the image because at that time it is guaranteed that the
| >Window is mapped.
| >
| >The problem, of course, is that no expose event is generated if the window
| >is visible and mapped. Do you know the best way to "tickle" a window so
| >that the expose event handler will be invoked to draw this new item?
| >
|
| What does this have to do with my original question??? I previously
| stated that I did an XCopyArea of the depth-8 pixmap to the screen
| just to make sure that my image had data, and it did. This is NOT
| a problem with expose events, it has to do with XCopyPlane not
| working!!!
|
| Does anyone have a code fragment they could send demonstrating that
| XCopyPlane works??? This would be very helpful!
|
| Thanks!
What it has to do with your original question is this: many times
beginning X users (heck, experienced X users too!) write small test
programs. Many times they forget to draw only in response to expose
events, and thus see unpreditable results whereby sometimes the application's
graphics show up, and sometimes they don't. We're just trying to
eliminate all the "easy" explanations for why you're not seeing your
graphics.
That being said, why don't you try copying different planes to your
window other than 16 (== 1 << 4). Try 1, 1<<1, 1<<2, ..., 1<<7
to see it you get any output. Since you're dipslaying only a single
plane of your data, it's possible that all the pixel values in your
pixmap have the same value for that color plane.
Ken
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| 5comp.windows.x |
The recent discussion in this news group suggests that a key search attack
against DES is quite feasible now. But normally DES is applied in CBC or CFB
mode where one chooses a random init vector of 8 bytes. Questions:
- Makes it sense to handle the init vector as an additional key? Then we have
a 56 + 64 = 120 bit key.
- If yes: Is anything known about the security of this key scheme? Can we
break it faster than by exhaustive search through the 120 bit key space?
--
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der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
Obere Zahlbacher Strasse 69, W-6500 Mainz, Germany
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1993Apr15.140541.28465@ericsson.se> etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) writes:
>
> Actually, Swedish coach Curt Lundmark is thinking about leaving two
> spots open for additions from eliminated NHLers. It is Mats Sundin and
> Calle Johansson that Curt hopes can join the team, although in a late
> stage of the tournament. Technically, I seem to recall that you can leave
> spots open until 24 hrs before the WC final.
>
Hmmm...I also heard through the grapevine that Team Finland might try and
leave a spot open for at least one NHLer. (Some guy named Sel{nne, ever
hear of him? :) They might have to be content with Kurri, though, I hope. :)
Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets
Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca
FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4 (please route through 348/700)
Tkachuk over to Zhamnov, up to Sel{nne, he shoots, he scores!
The Jets win the Cup! The Jets win the Cup!
Essensa for Vezina! Housley for Norris! Sel{nne for Calder!
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
verity@jack.sns.com (Steve Verity) writes:
>
>
> I am trying to build a circuit that detects the presence of video (Vs.
> a blank screen) by monitoring the R,G, and B outputs of a graphics
> card. It should be able to detect the presence of a single pixel at
> 65 MHz, which would mean detecting a 15 NS pulse. It should also be
> able to tell the difference between a blank screen (about 300 mv)
> and a dim screen (say, around 310 mv). Oh yes, it also needs to be
> cheap.
>
> My first circuit was a dismal failure. I used 3 compariators; each
> compariator had the + input going to one of the guns, the - input
> went to a reference created by a voltage divider(a potentiometer).
>
> The first problem was that the compariator was way too slow.. I
> needed to get several pixels in a row before it would fire the
> compariators, so I could have a whole screen full of text, but my
>
> The second problem is that there was more noise on the reference then
> the smallest difference between a blank screen and a dim screen. In
> fact the difference between completely black and completely white is
> only 650 mv. I am wondering if I am going to have to amplify the
> video signals to make this work.
>
> There are faster compariators, but they are expensive, and require
> split supplies. I would need to replace my .49 quad compariator
> with three 1.89 compariators, and create a whole new power supply
> circuit.
>
> At this point, I think what I need is some sort of transistor
> circuit. Transistors are fast and cheap and should do the trick...
>
> Unfortunately, I am way out of my league when It comes to designing
> transistor circuits, so I am appealing to the net for help. Any
> ideas, tips, circuits, pointers, references, etc. would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Oh yes, I only sample the output of this thing every second or so, so
> I don't need a fast response time at all, however, I haven't found a
> way to take advantage of that fact.
>
> Thanks a lot for any help anybody might be able to give. Of course,
> you will have my undying gratitude.
>
>
> Steve Verity
>
>
>
>
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> Steve Verity + + ...Maxed on MIDI + .
> + verity@jack.sns.com + .. +
IN ORDER to get the 15 nS response time you need, you are better off
going to an ECL slicer which can run off a single +5 or -5.2 V supply,
you just need to bias or do some level shifting perhaps to get it in the
range. Check out the ECL 10K books for a simple cheap solution.
dino@inqmind.bison.mb.ca
The Inquiring Mind BBS, Winnipeg, Manitoba 204 488-1607
| 12sci.electronics |
I have used a product called "Goof-off" it comes in a little yellow
can (about the size of a deck of playing cards).
It has worked well for removing all kinds of sticker and tape residues.
NOTE: always test a small area in an inconspicuous place before using.
Good luck,
Wes Whiteley
(707) 577-5292
wesw@sr.hp.com
| 12sci.electronics |
I am wanting to upgrade from a 386SX-25, to a 486DX-33, and are looking at a
cheap quote from someone offering me a 486DX-33 motherboard, with no ram in
it. (I will probably sell my old m-board off somewhere)
Now, I have 4 meg of RAM in my 386, which consists of
4 x 9 module 1024KB simms, running at 70 nanoseconds.
^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Would I encounter problems with the pointed out areas, by throwing these from
one computer to the other?
Any comments gratefully (e-mail preferred) appreciated.
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
A while back I asked for help in defending a traffic ticket I received.
In short:
The ticket was for not stopping at a stop sign. Given the conditions
I could not stop in time and decided instead of sliding right through the
intersection, I would complete my right-turn and avoid a possible accident.
A police cruiser happened to be approaching the intersection from my left
and gave me the ticket.
The officer said "The only reason that you even slowed down in the first
place was that you saw me approaching, otherwise you would have bombed right
through"
I would like to thank all those who responded favorably to my request for
help. To all of those who told me to bite the bullet and pay the fine:
PHGHGHGHGH..
The judge sided with me and decided that in this case "Not stopping" was the
safest thing to do and found me NOT GUILTY.
The officer's statement and my account of the conditions at the time (very
slippery, backed by newpaper weather conditions) were the factors what made
the judge decide on his verdict.
Moral: If you have never been to court before and you think you have a case,
go for it. It is a very interesting process, and it is there for
your benefit. Exercise your rights.
Trev
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| 7rec.autos |
In article <1993Apr21.163118.29571@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> jrlaf@sgi502.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (J. R. Laferriere) writes:
<Stuff deleted>
>
> Questions to ask a typical cop:
> =====================================
>
> A] In regards to pulling over someone of a MINOR moving violation
> (rolling stop, unsignaled lane change, 10ish mph over speed limit,etc.):
MINOR? You put unsignalled lane change in a MINOR category? Now I know
who these guys are...
Jeff Goss
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <1r5l8g$bub@wsinfo03.win.tue.nl> rcb5@wsinfo03.win.tue.nl (Richard Verhoeven) writes:
Sorry, but olwm and tvtwm don't do it. They place the title at that position
and the window at a position below it.
This becomes a problem when you want a program to be able to save its current
configuration and restore is later.
Currently, my solution is:
XCreateWindow(...);
XSetWMProperties(..);
XMapWindow(...);
XFlush(...);
XMoveWindow(...);
It works with olwm, but is less than elegant. All this leaves me wondering
if I'm overlooking something obvious.
Richard.
I know that the mwm has an resource to specify if positions are to be used for
the border of a window or for the "user" window. Maybe other window managers
have similar options.
Another way to figure out the difference between the "user" window position
and the window manager decoration window position is to subtract their
positions. You just have to use XQueryTree and remember that the window manager
decorations window is the parent of your window. Unfortunately, you can only
figure out the decoration width and height after the window has been mapped
this way.
Greeting,
Tobias (bading@cs.tu-berlin.de)
| 5comp.windows.x |
Laser printers often emit ozone (which smells sort of like Clorox).
Adequate ventilation is recommended.
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| 13sci.med |
A Alan Brock 4/14/93 Orange County Register Editorial titled "A case for
repealing the income tax" got my attention.
Some quotes:
"... a tax on income, because of the flexible definition of that
concept, invites the government to snoop into every nook and
cranny of our lives. Encouraging people to snoop on one another
and report transgressions against the almighty state, which most
Americans deplored in Nazi or communist regimes..."
"... Although most Americans paid no income tax at all 50 years ago
-- withholding began only during World War II, as a "temporary"
exigency, and in 1948 the median family federal income tax was $9..."
"Last year the federal government got only 37 percent of its income
from income taxes... How long ago was it that the federal government
somehow managed to stagger along on 63 percent of its 1992 revenue?
... Would you believe five?..."
"... The income tax has converted a free people into a society of
the fearful and the snitches..."
| 18talk.politics.misc |
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
-----------------------------------------------------------------
For Immediate Release April 19, 1993
STATEMENT OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
I am deeply saddened by the loss of life in Waco today. My
thoughts and prayers are with the families of David Koresh's
victims.
The law enforcement agencies involved in the Waco siege
recommended the course of action pursued today. The Attorney
General informed me of their analysis and judgment and
recommended that we proceed with today's action given the risks
of maintaining the previous policy indefinitely. I told the
Attorney General to do what she thought was right, and I stand by
that decision.
#
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1993Apr15.010329.23133@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>[Followups set out of talk.abortion...]
>
>In article <C5Fuo2.FF8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes:
>>Am I reading this thread wrong or is this just another bemoaning of the fact
>>that Christianity has a code of objective morality?
>
>Please define this "objective morality".
>
>While you're at it, please state the theory of creationism.
Still searching for an irrelevant issue in which to mire a pro-lifer, I see.
Slimy tactic.
- Kevin
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Hi there,
Is there any utility available that will make Windows
randomly select one of your windows directory's .BMP
files as the wallpaper file?
Nate
--------------------------
Nathan C. Crowell, Dept. of Materials Science/ACRL
Worcester Polytechnic Institute E-mail: bigal@wpi.wpi.edu
"A flower?"-Genesis "Supper's Ready"
--------------------------
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <werner-240393161954@tol7mac15.soe.berkeley.edu> werner@soe.berkeley.edu (John Werner) writes:
>In article <19213@pitt.UUCP>, geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) wrote:
>>
>> Explain. I thought there were 3 types of cones, equivalent to RGB.
>
>You're basically right, but I think there are just 2 types. One is
>sensitive to red and green, and the other is sensitive to blue and yellow.
>This is why the two most common kinds of color-blindness are red-green and
>blue-yellow.
>
Yes, I remember that now. Well, in that case, the cones are indeed
color sensitive, contrary to what the original respondent had claimed.
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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| 13sci.med |
In <1rs0au$an6@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.net (Pat) writes:
>How different would the contamination threat of a small manuevering tug
>be from that of the Shuttle and it's OMS engines??????
The aperture door will be shut during reboost. Using the shuttle
means that there will be someone nearby to pry the door open again
if it should stick.
>I just figured, if GOldin wants to really, prove out faster, cheaper
>better, have some of the whiz kids slap together an expendable
>space manuevering tug out of a BUs1, and use that for the re-boost.
It's clear that the "whiz kids" are not running the show. In any
case it's not prudent to stick a "slapped together" explosive device
on the end of a billion dollar asset that you'd like to see again.
(Wiseacres might say that a shuttle is a slapped-together explosive
device, but at least it's had some testing.)
| 14sci.space |
The best thing to do is to get a full face, even if it is a
cheap brain bucket. I didn't think a full face was important
until I took a gnarly spill and ended up sliding 20 feet on my
face. Plus with the visor down, you also have no worries about
your contacts.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Andrew Newell <TAN102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>I think you should support your first claim, that people will simply
>>harass me no matter what, as I doubt this is true. I think *some* of the
>>theists will be at a loss, and that is enough reason for me.
>Because "IN GOD WE TRUST" is a motto on the coins, and the coins
>are a representation of the government, christians are given
>ammunition here to slander atheists as unpatriotic.
So, we should ban the ammunition? Why not get rid of the guns?
>And yes, I have heard this used in conversation with christians.
>Sure, they may fall back on other things, but this is one they
>should not have available to use.
It is worse than others? The National Anthem? Should it be changed too?
God Bless America? The list goes on...
>Imagine if the next year's set of coins were labeled with
>the motto: "GOD IS DEAD".
>Certainly, such a statement on U.S. coins would offend almost
>every christian. And I'd be tempted to rub that motto in the
>face of christians when debunking their standard motto slinging
>gets boring.
Then you'd be no better than the people you despise.
>Any statement printed on an item that represents
>the government is an endorsement by the government.
Oh?
>The coin motto is an endorsement of trusting in god.
An endorsement, or an acknowledgement? I think gods are things that people
are proud of, but I don't think the motto encourages belief.
>I don't particularly feel like trusting in god,
>so the government IS putting me down with every
>coin it prints.
Is it?
[...]
>For the motto to be legitimate, it would have to read:
> "In god, gods, or godlessness we trust"
Would you approve of such a motto?
>Whether the motto was intended to be anti-atheist or not,
>it turns up as an open invitation to use as an anti-atheist tool.
And removing the tool will solve the problem?
Or will it increase the problem?
keith
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <C5Hu6q.CG3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:
>cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah) writes:
>
>
>.....
>
>>didn't this guy go crying on the "zionist" tv confessing
>>that he committed adultary, and was cheating on his wife..
>
>>a typical jew leader, huh?
>
>Yes. He is. Actually, the typical Muslim/Arab leader hides the fact that he
>commited adultery by choosing a camel over his husband (or a small male child,
>whichever is more readily availible).
>
Why don't both you bigots pick up a couple of dull knives and finish this
intellectual debate offNet somewhere, so those of us whose political opinions
are based more on Enlightenment ideas than on pre-primate mammalian territoriality
instincts don't have to watch.
-- Evan
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Dept of Computer Science steeg@ai.utoronto (other Bitnet)
University of Toronto, steeg@ai.toronto.cdn (EAN X.400)
Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 {seismo,watmath}!ai.toronto.edu!steeg
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
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