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About this QUADRA 700, 800 clock acceleration: has anyone heard
of anything like it for the QUADRA 950?
Please reply e-mail, I don't get to the news very often. Thanks!!
Mark Beale
mbeale(at)wallaby.mrc.uidaho.edu
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
From the "JPL Universe"
April 23, 1993
Cosmologist Stephen Hawking tours Lab
By Karre Marino
Some 15 years after his first visit to JPL, Prof. Stephen
Hawking, Lucasian professor of mathematics at Cambridge
University and author of "A Brief History of Time," returned to
the Lab April 5.
On a tour hosted by JPL Chief Scientist Dr. Moustafa Chahine
and Merle McKenzie, manager of the International Affairs Office,
Hawking visited a variety of facilities, met with Lab Director
Dr. Edward Stone and various project scientists and managers, and
felt "like royalty," he said. Hawking, whose theories attempt to
explain the origin of distant galaxies, black holes and alternate
dimensions, wanted to re-visit JPL, he explained, "because while
I'm most interested in those things in space that are farther
away, I know that here is where the first steps are taken."
Hawking, who was accompanied by his family, two graduate
students and his aides, began the tour in von Karman Auditorium,
as David Evans, deputy assistant Lab director in the Office of
Flight Projects, and Dr. Arden Albee, Mars Observer's project
scientist, briefed him on current and past flight projects.
Voyager was pointed out to him, with special attention paid
to a gold plate with a series of engraved images. Should
extraterrestrial life stumble upon the spacecraft, Evans noted,
they would find a variety of images that would explain something
of Earth. The professor asked if we were still communicating with
the spacecraft, and Evans affirmed that we are.
Using a model of Mars Observer, Albee spent several minutes
describing the project and the spacecraft's features. In answer
to a question from Hawking, Chahine described a proposed
drag-free satellite, but confirmed that at this point, "it's only
a concept." Chahine, who had met Hawking at Caltech about five
years before, described the professor as "a living miracle of the
power of the brain. He's miraculous, and he has such a good sense
of humor."
The next stop, a demonstration on scientific data
visualization in Section 384's Digital Image Animation Lab,
entertained and delighted the group, as everyone donned goggles
to view 3-D images of Mars. Project Scientist Dr. Eric De Jong
showed off the latest data -- a comet that had only recently been
discovered in orbit close to Jupiter. Hawking was curious about
its composition, and as he was shown how images are developed, he
asked several questions on their interpretation.
Norman Haynes, ALD, Office of Telecommunications and Data
Acquisition, briefed the professor on the Space Flight Operations
Facility, and then Hawking spoke with Stone.
The day ended with two technical discussions of particular
interest to the professor. Technical Group Leader Dr. Frank
Estabrook and Senior Research Scientist Hugo Wahlquist described
a three-spacecraft gravity wave experiment, currently under way.
Then planetary astronomer Dr. Richard Terrile explained the
philosophy and plans for extra solar system planetary detection.
The Hawking party, which had been visiting Southern
California for five weeks, was headquartered at Caltech, and
planned to leave for England within a few weeks after the Lab
tour. Upon departing, the Cambridge-based scientist promised
Chahine that he would return to JPL for another visit.
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/_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
| | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab |
___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand
/___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and
|_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.
| 14sci.space |
bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell) writes:
>It was a paper from Apple Sweden that announced some new products (the new
>docking station was only one of them), and the paper arrived before it showed
>up on the price list. I don't know if it's still called the "DuoDock Plus"
>in the price list, it could be a mistake by someone at Apple Sweden.
Ah... Ok. I didn't realize that you were talking about an Apple
division other than AppleUS. AppleUS, being the main division, is the
one that contains what most people feel are the correct names and
configurations for the majority of Apple customers, and it is generally
assumed that you are talking about AppleUS when you just say Apple. At
least that's how it has always been in this newsgroup. All other Apple
divisions are, apparantly, free to change names and configurations if
they feel like it. I know that Apple Canada does this kind of stuff all
the time. It's not a mistake, it's Apple Sweden giving a different name
to an Apple product other than what AppleUS calls it.
-Hades
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
This is to let you know that the fourth issue of the Copt-Net Newsletter
has been issued. The highlights of this issue include:
1. Easter Greating: Christ is risen; Truly he is risen!
2. The Holy Family in Egypt (part 1)
3. Anba Abraam, the Friend of the Poor (part 4)
4. A review of the Coptic Encyclopedia
5. A new Dictionary of the Coptic Language
This Newsletter has been prepared by members of Copt-Net, a forum
where news, activities, and services of the Coptic Orthodox Churches
and Coptic communities outside Egypt are coordinated and exchanged.
If you want your name to be included in the mailing list, or have any
questions please contact Nabil Ayoub at <ayoub@erctitan.me.wisc.edu>.
Copt-Net Editorial Board
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I suppose you're an expert in how brutal things were. You were there, I
suppose?
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr5.221759.28472@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
[ stuff deleted ]
|> I wrote:
|> Are you calling names, or giving me a title? If the first, read your
|> paragraph above, if not I accept the title, in order to let you get into the
|> um, well, debate again.
Hasan replies:
I didnot know that "Master of wisdom" can be "name clling" too,
unless you consider yourself deserve-less !
Unless you are referring to someone else, you have in fact given me a name
I did not ask for, hence the term 'name calling'.
Hasan writes:
|> So what do you expect me to tell you to tell you, Master of Wsidom,
|> ^^^
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------
I replied:
|> If you insist on giving me names/titles I did not ask for you could at
|> least spell them correctly. /sigh.
Hasan gloats:
That was only to confuse you! (ha ha ha hey )
Hell-bent on retarding into childhood, no?
|>when you are intentionally neglecting the MOST important fact that
|>the whole israeli presence in the occupied territories is ILLEGITIMATE,
|>and hence ALL their actions, their courts, their laws are illegitimate on
|>the ground of occupied territories.
|>
>No, I am _not_ neglecting that, I'm merely asking you whether the existance
>of Israeli citicens in the WB or in Gaza invalidates those individuals
>right
^^^^^^^ are you trying to retaliate and confuse me here.
No, I really do try to spell correctly, and I apologize if I did confuse you.
I will try not to repeat that.
|> to live, a (as you so eloquently put it) human right. We can get back to the
|> question of which law should be used in the territories later. Also, you have
|> not adressed my question if the israelis also have human rights.
First, my above statement doesnot say that "the existence of israeli citizens
in the WB revoke their right of life" but it says "the israeli occupation
of the WB revoke the right of life for some/most its citizens - basically
revokes the right of for its military men". Clearly, occupation is an
undeclared war; during war, attacks against military targets are fully legitimate.
Ok, let me re-phrase the question. I have repeatedly asked you if the
Israelis have less human rights than the palestinians, and if so, why.
From your posting (where you did not directly adress my question) I inferred
that you thought so. Together with the above statement I then assumed that the
reason was the actions of the state of Israel. Re: your statement of
occupation: I'd like you to define the term, so I don't have to repeat this
'drag the answer out of hasan' procedure more than neccesary.
Secondly, surely israeli have human rights, but they ask their goverment to
protect it by withdrawing from the occupied terretories, not by further oppressing
Palestinean human rights.
I'm sorry, but the above sentence does not make sense. Please rephrase it.
|> If a state can deprive all it's citizens of human rights by its actions, then
|> tell me why _any_ human living today should have any rights at all?
Because not all states are like Israel, as oppressive, as ignorant, or as tyrant.
Oh, ok. So how about the human rights of the Syrians, Iraqis and others?
Does the name of Hama sound familiar? Or how about the kurds in Iraq and
Turkey?
How about the Same in Sweden (Ok, maybe a bit farfetched..) the Russians in
the Baltic states or the Moslem in the old USSR and Yugoslavia?
Do the serbs have any human rights remainaing, according to you?
|> |> And which system do you propose we use to solve the ME problem?
|>
|> The question is NOT which system would solve the ME problem. Why ? because
|> any system can solve it.
|> The laws of minister Sharon says kick Palestineans out of here (all palestine).
|>
|> I asked for which system should be used, that will preserve human rights for
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> all people involved. I assumed that was obvious, but I won't repeat that
|> mistake. Now that I have straightened that out, I'm eagerly awaiting your
|> reply.
So you agree that that an israeli solution wouldnot preserve human rights.
(i am understanding this from your first statement in this paragraph).
No, I'm agreeing that to just kick all the Palestinians out of Israel proper
would probably lead to disaster for both parties. If that's what you refer
to as the 'Israeli solution' then so be it.
|> Joseph Weitz (administrator responsible for Jewish colonization)
|> said it best when writing in his diary in 1940:
|> "Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both
|> peoples together in this country.... We shall not achieve our goal
|> ^^^ ^^^
|> of being an independent people with the Arabs in this small country.
|> The only solution is a Palestine, at least Western Palestine (west of
|> the Jordan river) without Arabs.... And there is no other way than
|> to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighbouring countries, to
|> transfer all of them; not one village, not one tribe, should be
|> left.... Only after this transfer will the country be able to
|> absorb the millions of our own brethren. There is no other way out."
|> DAVAR, 29 September, 1967
|> ("Courtesy" of Marc Afifi)
|>
|> Just a question: If we are to disregard the rather obvious references to
|> getting Israel out of ME one way or the other in both PLO covenant and HAMAS
|> charter (that's the english translations, if you have other information I'd
|> be interested to have you translate it) why should we give any credence to
|> a _private_ paper even older? I'm not going to get into the question if he
|> wrote the above, but it's fairly obvious all parties in the conflict have
|> their share of fanatics. Guess what..? Those are not the people that will
|> make any lasting peace in the region. [more deleted stuff]
>Exactly, you are right. I guess that the problem is that the israeli goverment>is full with men like Joseph Weitz.
Oh? Have you met with them personally, to read their diaries? Fascinating.
What do you _do_ for a living?
|> "We" and "our" either refers to Zionists or Jews (i donot know which).
|>
|> Well, i can give you an answer, you Master of Wisdom, I will NOT suggest the
|> imperialist israeli system for solving the ME problem !
|>
|> I think that is fair enough .
|>
|> No, that is _not_ an answer, since I asked for a system that could solve
|> the problem. You said any could be used, then you provided a contradiction.
Above you wrote that you understood what i meant (underlined by ^ ):
any system can be used to solve the conflict , but not any system would
resolve it JUSTLY.
An unjust solution would be a non-solution, per definition, no?
You said the following:
For all A it holds that A have property B.
There exists an A such that property B does not hold.
Thus, either or both statements must be false.
|> Guess where that takes your logic? To never-never land.
>You are proving yourself as a " ". First you understood what i meant, but then
>you claim you didnot so to claim a contradiction in my logic.
>Too bad for you, the Master of Wisdom.
I was merely pointing out a not so small flaw in your reasoning.
Since you claim to be logical I felt it best to point this out
before you started using your statements to prove a point or so.
Am I then to assume you are not logical?
|> "The greatest problem of Zionism is Arab children".
|> -Rabbi Shoham.
|>
|> Oh, and by the way, let me add that these cute quotes you put at the end are
|> a real bummer, when I try giving your posts any credit.
>Why do you feel ashamed by things and facts that you believe in ,
>if you were a Zionists. If you believe in Zionist codes and acts,
>well i feel sorry for you, because the same Rabbi Shoham had said
>"Yes, Zionism is racism".
>If you feel ashamed and bothered by the Zionist codes, then drop Zionism.
>If you are not Zionist, why are you bothered then. You should join me in
>condemning these racist Zionist codes and acts.
Any quote can be misused, especially when used to stereotype all
individuals by a statement of an individual. If you use the same
methods that you credit 'Zionists' with, then where does that place you?
Oh, by the way, I'd advice you not to assume anything about my 'loyalties'.
I will and am condemning acts I find vile and inhuman, but I'll try as
long as I can not to assume those acts are by a whole people.
By zionist above do you mean the state of Israel, the government of Israel,
the leaders of Israel (political and/or religious) or the jews in
general? If you feel the need to condemn, condemn those responsible
instead. How would you feel if we started condemning you personally
based on the bombings in Egypt?
--
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Jonas Flygare, + Wherever you go, there you are
V{ktargatan 32 F:621 +
754 22 Uppsala, Sweden +
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr3.152922.12050@iscsvax.uni.edu>, harter5255@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
|> Fellow netters,
|>
|> Is anybody awake out there? When someone posted a message telling people to
|> stop posting computer ads to the misc.forsale group, he got about thirty
|> response here, not to mention the rash of E-Mail I'm sure he received. Yet,
|> another person posts a message with the subject line "blow me" and an even
|> worse text, and only 3 or 4 people have the guts to say anything. The majority
Not to mention the thread about selling someone's wife. I am a guy, therefore
not overly bummed by it, but a little common sense would dictate that this
is offensive to many women, and not really necessary.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scott Ferguson Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Project Engineer New Jersey
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All opinions, not official view of Exxon.
"I must ask the question...are we going to play Stonehenge tonight?"
| 6misc.forsale |
Is it possible to buy a serial I/O card with the 16550 UART's built in
(rather than having to buy them separately, and socketing them in)?
My current I/O card uses 8250's (correct number? The braindead ones anyway).
It also controls two floppy drives, and two IDE hard drives.
Ideally, I'd like to get a new multi I/O card, that had 2 serial ports with
16550's and could also control another 2 IDE HD's. It would have to have
configurable addresses for both the serial ports, and the IDE controller, so
it could co-exist with my existing card.
Does such a beast exist? Now the hard part - where can I get one in Australia,
preferably Brisbane?
Thanks,
Geoff Green (spart@cs.uq.oz.au)
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <19688@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>
>In article <1993Apr12.201056.20753@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mcg2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Marc Gabriel) writes:
>
>>Now, I'm not saying that culturing is the best way to diagnose; it's very
>>hard to culture Bb in most cases. The point is that Dr. N has developed a
>>"feel" for what is and what isn't LD. This comes from years of experience.
>>No serology can match that. Unfortunately, some would call Dr. N a "quack"
>>and accuse him of trying to make a quick buck.
>>
>Why do you think he would be called a quack? The quacks don't do cultures.
>They poo-poo doing more lab tests: "this is Lyme, believe me, I've
>seen it many times. The lab tests aren't accurate. We'll treat it
>now." Also, is Dr. N's practice almost exclusively devoted to treating
>Lyme patients? I don't know *any* orthopedic surgeons who fit this
>pattern. They are usually GPs.
>--
Are you arguing that the Lyme lab test is accurate?
The books that I've read say that in general the tests
have a 50-50 chance of being correct. (The tests
result in a large number of both false positives and
false negatives. I am in the latter case.)
We could get those same odds by "rolling the dice".
--
Ralph Yozzo (yozzo@watson.ibm.com)
From the beautiful and historic New York State Mid-Hudson Valley.
| 13sci.med |
i am sorry, but this genoa card does nothing that the ATI ultra plus 2mb
can't do, PLUS the ATI costs 330$US street price ....
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <1993Apr18.041741.6051@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kayman@csd-d-3.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kayman) writes:
>From: kayman@csd-d-3.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kayman)
>Subject: Canon BJ200 (BubbleJet) and HP DeskJet 500...
>Keywords: printer
>Date: 18 Apr 93 04:17:41 GMT
>Hello fellow 'netters.
>I am asking for your collected wisdom to help me decide which printer I
>should purchase, the Canon BJ200 (BubbleJet) vs. the HP DeskJet 500. I
>thought, rather than trust the salesperson, I would benefit more from
>relying on those who use these printers daily and use them to their fullest
>potential. And, I figure all of you will know their benefits and pitfalls
>better than any salesperson.
>Now, I would greatly appreciate any information you could render on the 360
>dpi of the Canon BubbleJet vs. the Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 500 (300 dpi).
>Which is faster? Is there a noticeable print quality difference,
>particularly in graphics? Which will handle large documents better (75
>pages or more) -- any personal experience on either will be appreciated
>here? Which works better under Windows 3.1 (any driver problems, etc)?
>Cost of memory, font packages, toner cartridges, etc? Basically, your
>personal experiences with either of these machines is highly desirable,
>both good and bad.
>Advance kudos and thanks for all your input. E-mail or news posting is
>readily acceptable, but e-mail is encouraged (limits bandwidth).
>--
>Sincerely,
>Robert Kayman ---- kayman@cs.stanford.edu -or- cpa@cs.stanford.edu
>"In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not."
>"You mean you want the revised revision of the original revised revision
> revised?!?!"
All right. Not saying I know any more than the average salesguy, I'll give
your question a shot.
The key issue that I bought my BJ-200 on was ink drying speed. You really
have to try awful hard to get the BJ-200 ink to smear. The HP DeskJets need
10-15 seconds to completely dry. In both cases, however, do not get your
pages wet. Unlike laser printers, the material on your pages is INK, not
toner. But that should go without saying.
My PC has very little memory (only 2Meg RAM), so the BJ-200 takes a little
while to print ----- but every application I use takes a while to run. Once
the computer is solely printing, it purs like a kitten and puts pages out
every 15-30 seconds, depending on how detailed your graphics are.
The BJ-200 can do Windows soft fonts. I'm assuming that the DeskJet can, or
HP wouldn't sell many......
Size is another factor. The BJ-200 is much smaller, but the HP is built
like a tank. I bet the BJ-200 would get damaged first.
Finally, the print quality. I LOVE the BJ-200's resolution. It looks like
a good laser quality print. The HP's I've used.....they look like ink. Not
as impressive.
So, I chose the Canon. Any other opinions?
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I have a friend who has a MAC (LC or LC II I think), and her family has an
"extra" LaserJet IIIp sitting around. Is there any way to connect these
two and make them work without a postscript cartridge? She told me that a
random friend of hers had mentioned something about some software package
that could do the translation...
-Rick
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <C4wKFs.BC1@eskimo.com>, maven@eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) writes:
|> Question for the day:
|>
|> What protective gear is the most important? I've got a good helmet (shoei
|> rf200) and a good, thick jacket (leather gold) and a pair of really cheap
|> leather gloves... What should my next purchase be? Better gloves, boots,
|> leather pants, what?
condom
during wone of the 500 times i had to go over my accident i
was asked if i was wearing "protection" my responces was
"yes i was wearing a condom"
laz
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In <1993Apr15.170715.29896@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
|>Think about it -- shouldn't all drugs then be legalized, it would lower
|>the cost and definitely make them safer to use.
|I think so. And I don't use drugs, outside of the legal ones (alcohol
|and coffee).
I'm addicted to chocolate myself.
--
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I wanted to let people know that this motorcycle has been sold.
Thanks for your inquiries.
--Dave Schultz
| 8rec.motorcycles |
vic@mmalt.guild.org (Vic Kulikauskas) writes:
> Our Moderator writes:
>
> > I'm inclined to read descriptions such as the lake of fire as
> > indicating annihilation. However that's a minority view.
> ...
> > It's my personal view, but the only denominations I know of that hold
> > it officially are the JW's and SDA's.
>
> I can't find the reference right now, but didn't C.S.Lewis speculate
> somewhere that hell might be "the state of once having been a human
> soul"?
Why is it that we have this notion that God takes some sort of pleasure
from punishing people? The purpose of hell is to destroy the devil and
his angels.
To the earlier poster who tried to support the eternal hell theory with
the fact that the fallen angels were not destroyed, remember the Bible
teaches that God has reserved them until the day of judgement. Their
judgement is soon to come.
Let me suggest this. Maybe those who believe in the eternal hell theory
should provide all the biblical evidence they can find for it. Stay away
from human theories, and only take into account references in the bible.
Darius
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In <C5r1yA.3EF@unix.portal.com> wil@shell.portal.com (Ville V Walveranta) writes:
> WinJet is not a video card -- it's _printer_ accelerator manufactured
> by LaserMaster (Eden Prairie, MN).
I know there's a WinJet for the LaserJet and there's also a WinJet accelerator
video card. This is probably not available in the US, but I am sure it is
being marketed in Canada. I thought you guys over there would have heard some-
thing about it.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
A friend of mine has a complete set of AIX-PS/2 1.2 software
and manuals for sale. (NEW) (all on 1.44 Meg floppies)
including:
Base OS
Development tools (including C Compiler)
Administration extensions
X Windows / Motif
TCP/IP
PC simulator (DOS Merge)
etc. etc.....
(This software requires a PS/2 with 386 processor or higher,
ample disk space and memory :-) it can coexist with dos and
OS/2 on the same machine, and selectively booted at startup.)
If you are interested email me your offer and I will pass
it along. Keep in mind that the manuals and software fill
up a 12x12x18 box so shipping is a consideration.
(Please include this message for reference)
====== S. Alavi [ssa@unity.ncsu.edu] (919)467-7909 (H) ========
(919)515-8063 (W)
| 6misc.forsale |
Squirrel Hill Studio/Efficiency available in mid May. My lease is expiring on
7/31/93. Perfect for someone looking for temporary housing or someone
who wants
to stay beyond July.
- Nice short walk to CMU
- $325/month
- Plenty of parking space on street
- Quiet neighborhood
- nearly new carpet
- Call 421-8466
| 6misc.forsale |
I tried mailing you but your domain seems not to exist, can't even get
sinet.slb.com to admit to knowing about geco, anyway here we go:
In article <1q7kq1INNjl9@griffin.orpington.sgp.slb.com> you wrote:
: Subject:GPz900 runs like a bitch.
: Anyone have a cure for sub zero running probs on a GPz 900.
: Anything below 3000 revs and the bike wants to cut out all the time,
: the recommended cure in the bike mags seems to be to switch off the engine
: for a minute to thaw the ice,but this is obviously not mutch of a cure.
: mine has had the kawasaki heated carb mod but the problem persists,
: i've covered the rad which makes the bike run warmer and moves the problem
: down the temp scale a degree or two.
: Has anyone tried a dynojet kit on the 900 or (getting desperate) different
: carbs or the fuel injection off the GPz 1100.
:
Have you talked to Kawasaki, maybe they did another version of the upgrade
kit. Got to be worth a phone call. Did you do the carb mod or did you buy it
secondhand from someone who said that it had been done.
Is that Orpington in Kent? If so have you heard of the Ogri mailing list
which I run? Its an email list for bikers in the UK and interested parties,
available live or as a daily digest. Let me know if you want to subscribe.
Good luck, Dave
--
David Edmondson davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
Queen Mary & Westfield College DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000
"This means the end of the horse-drawn Zeppelin."
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Hi, baseball fans! So what do you say? Don't you think he deserves it?
I
mean, heck, if Dave Winfield (ho-hum) is seriously being considered for it,
as
is Lee Smith (ha), then why don't we give Dave Kingman a chance? Or Darrell
Evans! Yeah, yeah! After the Hall of Fame takes in them, it can take in
Eddie
Murray and Jeff Reardon.
Well, in any case, I am sick and tired (mostly sick) of everybody
giving
Hall of Fame consideration to players that are by today's standards,
marginal.
Honestly, Ozzie Smith and Robin Yount don't belong there. They're both
shortstops that just hung around for a long time. Big deal.
Let's be a little more selective, huh? Stop handing out these honors
so
liberally. Save them for the guys who really deserve it. Face it, if
something
isn't done, there will be little prestige in the Hall of Fame anymore. When
certain individuals believe that Steve Garvey or Jack Morris are potential
candidates, the absurdity is apparent. Gee, can these guys even compare to
the more likely future Hall of Famers like Kirby Puckett or Nolan Ryan?
Ñ Steve
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
OK... quick scenario... you're at home, not bothering anybody... next thing you
know, somebody comes crashing in the upstairs window and you hear an explosion.
You see that this individual has a submachinegun, and that more similarly armed
individuals are rushing your front door. Will you a) defend yourself and family
against this attack b) realize "oh, only the BATF would enter like that, so I
better surrender" or c) roll over and let whoever is attacking your home do
what they would like? You have chosen a), and discover that the people you
defended yourself against are federal agents, who now are camped outside your
door waiting for you to surrender. You have learned that they intend to
charge you with murder, and are further defaming your name, while claiming that
you can safely surrender at any time. Then they start using psychological
warfare techniques against you, while still claiming that you can safely give up
and will receive a fair trial. Some weeks into this standoff, you are still
holding out, when they begin a new ploy to induce your surrender, namely using
tear gas to annoy you, and ramming your home with tanks. Yet they claim that
you can safely surrender at any time. While you patiently wait out this latest
round of attacks, your house catches fire and the bales of hay you were using as
cover spread the fire rapidly through the house, and you try to escape through
the fortifications you had raised for your own defense and the rubble created
by the tanks. Only 9 of your followers make it.
I am not claiming that the above scenario is accurate. I am disagreeing with
the notion that it is their own fault for dying because they refused to
surrender to agents of the Federal government after another federal agency
committed an armed assault of their home on the basis of a flimsily concocted
search warrant.
Look at how the Texas Rangers view the BATF. Look at the FBI statements
regarding the BATF actions. From all apparent sources, the FBI blundered
trying to clean up the mess made by the BATF, resulting in an accidental fire
which killed most of the BD's who were still in the compound, and are now
playing CYA. The BATF committed an illegal assault, obtained the use of
Texas NG resources with fabricated allegations, and compounded their abuses
by accusing the BD's of crimes outside their jurisdiction once they had been
held off in their assault.
--
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James S. Cochrane * When in danger, or in doubt, run in * This space
gt6511a@prism.gatech.edu * circles, scream and shout. * for rent
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
lyourk@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Loran N. Yourk) writes:
>
> With a sound card on interrupt 5, two serial ports (one for modem on i4,
> one for Miracle Piano on i3) and a printer port on i7, I have run out of
> low interrupts. What I would like is a mouse port with an interrupt of
> 10, 11, or 12 (which ever interrupt the PS/2 mouse port uses) in in ISA
> i486 computer. I called technical support of Microsoft, Logitech, & ATI
> (checked what interrupts the mouse port on the ATI video cards can use)
> and they all said the only interrupts possible on these cards was ones
> lower than 7. Does anyone know of any board for an ISA bus which will
> allow a mouse port (or even a serial port) with high interrupts?
Try putting one of the IRQs for your COM ports onto IRQ2. The hardware will
automagically wrap IRQ2 to IRQ9 on AT class machines (eg, anything with high
IRQs). This is what I'm doing on my set up right now.
I've got COM2 on IRQ2 (really IRQ9 - address it this way in software), COM1
on IRQ3, SoundBlaster on IRQ5, LPT1 on IRQ7, and my ATI BusMouse port on one of
the interrupts in between. Works just great.
If you need even more, there's a text file floating around somewhere that
details how to hack up any serial card (and probably any others) to work on the
higher IRQs. It basically involves cutting the trace to the low IRQ and running a wire over the a high IRQ pin on the 16bit expansion bus.
It will be best to put the modem's COM port onto IRQ2/9. This will be the
first IRQ serviced by the system, giving the modem a better response --
especially handy under multitaskers like OS/2 -- which I'm running with no
problems.
Justin
---
jdolske@andy.bgsu.edu
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <12426@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr) writes:
>[...]
>I agree. I come at this from nuclear physics, where one often discusses
>particle-hole excitations and certain reactions have the effect of
>applying an annihilation operator and creating a hole, and it is a
>subtle question. The longer one works with them, the more real they
>become. There are also quasi-particles, which raise the same sort
>of question about how "real" the entity is. The phenomenon is most
>certainly a real one.
OK, I've asked this before, and with a new thread on these lines, I
ask this again:
1: If a large hole current is run thru a resistor, will there be
I^2 * R cooling instead of heating?
2: Can anyone design an amplifier that preferentially amplifies
hole currents over normal electron currents?
3: what semiconductor materials have the highest ratio of
hole mobility to electron mobility? (please quote actual
test samples rather than estimates based on theory. Also,
don't be limited to semiconductors: consider also insulators,
resistors, dielectrics, piezo-electrics, conductors,
magnets (metal, ceramic), magnetostrictives, etc).
NOTES:
to summarize, this thread has so far stated that the only area
where holes are not detectable is the vacuum. That is, hole
particles only exist in the presence of matter.
Previous threads have stated that holes only exist in certain
semi-conductors. The question that naturally arises is if
the hole currents inside a semi-conductor vanish at the point
where the semiconductor is joined to a conductor (say, copper).
I don't want a theoretical discussion here about whether
holes could exist inside metal conductors, rather I ask for
an experimental discussion on how to amplify and detect such
currents *if* they exist.
Also note that I have cross-posted this to sci.electronics
since this is now becoming an electronic discussion.
Thanx,
Eric.
----
ET "A Force of Nature"
----
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Mar30.203846.85644@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jh03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JUN HE) writes:
>In article <1993Mar26.221840.1204@nosc.mil>, koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A.
> Koziarz) writes:
>>In article <51300059@hpscit.sc.hp.com> chrisw@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Chris Wiles) wr
>ites:
>>
>>
>>> Consumers report did a study I think and found that most
>>>trucks got worse mileage with the tailgate off. The tailgates on the
>>>newer trucks actually help.
>>
>>oh, sure they do... and replacing the front bumper and grille with a closet
>>door helps mileage *and* cooling. *if* CR actually said that, then they have
>>bigger fools working for them than the fools that believe their drivel... but,
>>who am I to argue this? just someone that's been a pickup-driver for 20+
>>years, that's all. forget the 'net', just take off the tailgate on hiway trips
>>since the nets aren't designed to nor capable of restraining a load in the bed
>>anyway. around town, the tailgate will have a negligable effect on mileage
>>anyway.
>>
>>Walt K.
>>
>They may help to improve mileage in some cases, I believe. With the tailgate
>on the flow structure behind the cab may differ and the vortex drag may be
>reduced during high speed driving.
How about those toneau covers? I've been thinking of building one
from chipboard for roadtrips. Any comment on how they affect
mileage in highway travel?
Charles
--
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
| 7rec.autos |
: Does Dorothy Denning read this group? If not, is someone on the group
: forwarding questions like these to her, or Martin Hellman, or anyone else
: who's seen more details about the chip?
Of course she does; it's just she's been toasted so often for being
an NSA patsy that she's keeping her head down. You can always mail
her directly as denning@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu,
denning@cs.cosc.georgetown.edu or denning@cs.georgetown.edu
G
| 11sci.crypt |
wlieftin@cs.vu.nl (Liefting W) writes:
: Hello all you windows freaks out there.
:
: I bought Windows 3.1 (dutch version) some time ago, and run it on a
: 286. I recently upgraded my computer to a 486DX33, 256K cache, 4M memory,
: 212M Maxtor HD. Works real fine, but not with windows.
:
: When playing Patience (SOL) or minesweeper, suddenly the system hangs:
: - I just can't move my mouse anymore.
: or
: - Screen goes blank, nothing further
: or
: - Screen goes blank, computer seems to reboot, but stops before reaching
: the end of the memory test.
:
: Once (or maybe even twice) I got a message about some illegal kernel call
: or something (accompanied by a hex adress) and a close-button. When pressing
: it, the application wouldn't close, though.
:
: I haven't experienced this problem with other programs than these, but that's
: mainly because I haven't really used other programs. I suspect them to hang
: too.
:
: Anything known about this problem. (Or, better, any patches available?)
:
:
: Oh, forgot to tell, if, in CMOS RAM, I make the computer faster (higher
: bus speed, less wait states, enable both caches etc), the crash comes
: faster (after 10 min. or so). If I deliberately slow the system down
: (slow bus speed, wait states, disable internal/external cache, no
: shadowing) the crash comes later, but comes.
:
: Hope anyone can help.
:
: Wouter.
:
:
Hi,
I got a problem too, with a 486DX2-66 VLB, 4 Mb RAM, 170Mb disk.
Sometimes, when I switch on the computer, it starts Windows (3.1 Dutch)
Windows switches to 1024x768, switches back to text-mode and exits
to DOS. After one or two resets, the system works fine...
Thanks
Patrick
VU Amsterdam
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
On 23 Apr 93 00:18:59 GMT, Clayton Cramer observed:
: alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (amy lynn young-leith) writes:
: # Can someone tell me why when Mr. Cramer spouts on about homosexuals,
: # he only addresses homosexual men, and never, in any post I've read,
: # addressed lesbians? Granted, I stopped reading all his posts long, long
: # ago, so perhaps I missed something.
: Because women very, very seldom molest children.
Un-hunh. Yeah. Right. Sure.
You know that list of things that are stereotypically American -- Mom,
apple pie, etc.? You don't hear too many stories about Mom being
a child molester, because such stories would simply be unAmerican.
But that doesn't say that it doesn't happen.
--
Michael/StarOwl
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1pco6eINN99i@corona.hsc.usc.edu> Daniel S. Chen,
dschen@corona.hsc.usc.edu writes:
> I'm interested in getting a 14" color monitor for my new LCIII.
>Unfortunately, I'm really quite confused with the Sony monitors.
>Could someone please compare the Sony 1320, 1304 and the Apple 14"?
> Thanks. Dan
Just thought I would mention that Sony no longer manufactures the CPD-
1304 because of several manufacturing flaws. The new model is now the
1430, which just like Apple's new Sony Trinitrom CLAIMS to be 14 inches.
I'm not sure of the details on the defects, but I work at our schools
bookstore
and can tell you that nearly half of them were returned with some kind of
defect or another.
Just my two cents worth.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1r47l1INN8gq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) writes:
>
>In most cases information you come by properly is yours to use as you wish,
>but there are certainly exceptions. If you write a paper which includes
>sufficiently detailed information on how to build a nuclear weapon, it is
>classified. As I understand the law, nuclear weapons design is
>_automatically_ classified even if you do the work yourself. I believe you
>are then not allowed to read your own paper.
>
Hate to mess up your point, but it is incredibly easy to learn how
to make a nuclear weapon. The hard part is getting the radioactives to
put in it. Have you ever read Tom Clancy's _The Sum of All Fears_? It
describes in great detail how a Palestinian terrorist group constructed a
nuclear bomb using stolen (actually found) plutonium, with some help from
an East German nuclear physicist. For some non fiction, read Tom Clancy's
article _Five Minutes Till Midnight_. It shows how a terrorist group could
construct a nuke using Neptunium, a low grade radioactive waste product
dumped in toxic waste sites and forgotten about. He also claims information
on constructing a nuke is easily found in any large library. Sounds
kind of scary, doesn't it? :-(
>A less serious example: if you tell drivers about a speed trap they are
>about to run into, you can be fined, even though you might argue that you
>broke no law when you discovered the location of the policeman. The charge
>is interfering with a police officer, which is quite similar what you would
>be doing by reverse engineering the Clipper chip.
>
>Don't tell me that you think this violates the Constitution -- find some
>court cases which have struck down such laws. Many people would not be
>comforted by the fact that the government violated their rights when it
>imprisoned them.
>
Don't know whether you could get busted for warning of a speedtrap.
Doug Holland
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| Doug Holland | Anyone who tries to take away my freedom |
| holland@cs.colostate.edu | of speech will have to pry it from my |
| PGP key available by E-mail | cold, dead lips!! |
| 11sci.crypt |
In-Reply-To: <20APR199312262902@rigel.tamu.edu> lmp8913@rigel.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M)
I have a trident card and fullview works real gif jpg try it#
dave
| 1comp.graphics |
In the UIBM PC world, how much of a "standard" has VESA become for
SVGA graphics? I know there are lots of graphics-board companies out
there, as well as several graphics chips manufacturers- are they adhering to
the VESA standard, and what effect is/will the VESA Local Bus have on all
of this?
Anyone?
| 1comp.graphics |
fls@keynes.econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith) writes:
> The situation with the Giants' bleachers is a case in point for the
>need for a commissioner.
Okay, I'm curious. Why? Are you expectin the Commissioner to fly in and
stand on the pitchers mound to yell at the fans to sit down, or what?
--
Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= chuq@apple.com
Member, SFWA =+= Editor, OtherRealms =+= GEnie: MAC.BIGOT =+= ALink:CHUQ
Minor League fans: minors-request@medraut.apple.com (San Jose Giants: A/1/9)
San Francisco Giants fans: giants-request@medraut.apple.com (The Stick?NOT!)
San Jose Sharks fans: sharks-request@medraut.apple.com (New seat: 127/TBD)
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <8813@blue.cis.pitt.edu> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
>I seem to have misplaced the baseball bibliography that was posted here
>recently. (That's what happens when you have to split a heap of disorganized
>files from one machine among two others.) Could some kind soul repost the
>bibliography, or mail me a copy?
>
>Also, in particular, a colleague of mine is looking for any information he
>can find on Moe Berg, catcher/linguist/espion of WW2. Any references (or
>anecdotes, for that matter) would be appreciated.
>
>Dave
>
I believe SI had an in-depth article on Moe a while ago. I remember
that the article revealed some new facts regarding the secretive
Moe. My SI subscription expired this past February, the second of
two years that I received same. Therefore my guess is that the
article appeared sometime in 1991-92.
Can anyone else be more definitive as to a date of the SI article ?
jerry
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr23.225710.10438@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
> What is a shame is that in Austria, daily reports of
>the inhuman acts commited by Israeli soldiers [...]
It wasn't all that long ago that the acts of Israeli soldiers were
described as "superhuman". Now, they are "inhuman". Did the Israelis
change so radically so quickly or have reporting attitudes changed?
> and the blessing
>received from the Government makes some of the Holocaust guilt
>go away. After all, look how the Jews are treating other races
>when they got power.
When the Jews were powerless, they did what they could to help others,
which was obviously quite limited. Later, liberated American Jews
were on the forefront of the civil-rights movement. The Jewish
government of Israel rescued Jews ranging in skin color from White
Russian to Brown Yemenite to Black Ethiopian. Please, Andi, tell us
"how the Jews are treating other races when they got power."
>It is unfortunate.
Your ignorance and bias are indeed unfortunate.
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Archive-name: space/data
Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:39:07 $
ONLINE AND OTHER SOURCES OF IMAGES, DATA, ETC.
INTRODUCTION
A wide variety of images, data, catalogs, information releases, and
other material dealing with space and astronomy may be found on the net.
A few sites offer direct dialup access or remote login access, while the
remainder support some form of file transfer. Many sites are listed as
providing 'anonymous FTP'. This refers to the File Transfer Protocol on
the Internet. Sites not connected to the Internet cannot use FTP
directly, but there are a few automated FTP servers which operates via
email. Send mail containing only the word HELP to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
or bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu, and the servers will send you instructions
on how to make requests.
The sources with the broadest selection of material are the NASA Ames
SPACE archive and the National Space Science Data Center.
Don't even ask for images to be posted to the net. The data volume is
huge and nobody wants to spend the time on it.
VIEWING IMAGES
The possible combinations of image formats and machines is forebodingly
large, and I won't attempt to cover common formats (GIF, etc.) here. To
read PDS and VICAR (and many other) formats on Unix systems running X,
use XV 2.11, available by anonymous FTP from export.lcs.mit.edu
(18.24.0.12) in contrib/xv-2.11.tar.Z and the other standard X11 FTP
sites.
The FAQ for the Usenet group alt.binaries.pictures discusses image
formats and how to get image viewing software. A copy of this document
is available by anonymous FTP from the Usenet FAQ archives at
pit-manager.mit.edu (18.72.1.58), in directory
pub/usenet/alt.binaries.pictures.
ONLINE ARCHIVES
NASA AMES
Extensive archives are maintained at NASA Ames and are available via
anonymous FTP or an email server. These archives include many images and
a wide variety of documents including this FAQ list, NASA press
releases, shuttle launch advisories, and mission status reports. Please
note that these are NOT maintained on an official basis.
FTP users should connect to ames.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.18.3) and look in
pub/SPACE. pub/SPACE/Index contains a listing of files available in the
archive (the index is about 200K by itself).
To access the archives by email, send a letter to
archive-server@ames.arc.nasa.gov (or ames!archive-server). In the
subject of your letter (or in the body), use commands like:
send SPACE Index
send SPACE SHUTTLE/ss01.23.91.
The capitalization of the subdirectory names is important. All are in
caps. Only text files are handled by the email server at present; use
one of the FTP email servers described in the introduction to this
section for images or programs.
The Magellan Venus and Voyager Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus CD-ROM image
disks have been put online in the CDROM and CDROM2 directories. The
disks will be rotated on a weekly basis. Thousands of images are
available in these collections.
The GIF directory contains images in GIF format. The VICAR directory
contains Magellan images in VICAR format (these are also available in
the GIF directory). A PC program capable of displaying these files is
found in the IMDISP directory (see the item "VIEWING IMAGES" below).
The NASA media guide describes the various NASA centers and how to
contact their public affairs officers; this may be useful when pursuing
specific information. It's in MISC/media.guide.
Any problems with the archive server should be reported to Peter Yee
(yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov).
NASA ASTROPHYSICS DATA SYSTEM
The ADS is a distributed data retrieval system which is easy to use and
provides uniform access to ground-based and space-based astronomy data
from NASA data centers across the country. It currently has over 140
data catalogs of radio, infrared, optical, UV, and X-ray data which can
be queried by position or any other parameter in the catalog. The ADS
also provides tools to manipulate and plot tabular results. In addition,
ADS has a Beta version of an Abstracts Service which allows users to
query over 125,000 abstracts of astronomy papers since 1975 by authors,
keywords, title words, or abstract text words.
ADS use requires direct Internet access. For more info and to sign up to
become a user, email ads@cuads.coloradu.edu. The User's Guide and
"QuickStart" Guide are available by anonymous FTP to sao-ftp.harvard.edu
in directory pub/ads/ADS_User_Guide (PostScript files).
Contact Carolyn Stern Grant (stern@cfa.harvard.edu).
NASA JET PROPULSION LAB (MISSION INFORMATION AND IMAGES)
pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.6.2) is an anonymous FTP site operated by
the JPL Public Information Office, containing news releases, status
reports, fact sheets, images, and other data on JPL missions. It may
also be reached by modem at (818)-354-1333 (no parity, 8 data bits, 1
stop bit).
Contact newsdesk@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov or phone (818)-354-7170.
NASA LANGLEY (TECHNICAL REPORTS)
techreports.larc.nasa.gov is an anonymous FTP site offering technical
reports. To get started, cd to directory pub/techreports/larc/92 and
retrieve files README and abstracts.92. Most files are compressed
PostScript. The reports are also in a WAIS database with the following
description:
(:source
:version 3
:ip-name "techreports.larc.nasa.gov"
:tcp-port 210
:database-name "nasa-larc-abs"
:cost 0.00
:cost-unit :free
:maintainer "M.L.Nelson@LaRC.NASA.GOV"
:description "NASA Langley Research Center Technical Reports
Contact tr-admin@techreports.larc.nasa.gov.
NASA SPACELINK
SpaceLink is an online service located at Marshall Space Flight Center
in Huntsville, Alabama. The system is specifically designed for
teachers. The data base is arranged to provide easy access to current
and historical information on NASA aeronautics, space research, and
technology transfer information. Also included are suggested classroom
activities that incorporate information on NASA projects to teach a
number of scientific principles. Unlike bulletin board systems, NASA
Spacelink does not provide for interaction between callers. However it
does allow teachers and other callers to leave questions and comments
for NASA which may be answered by regular mail. Messages are answered
electronically, even to acknowledge requests which will be fulfilled by
mail. Messages are generally handled the next working day except during
missions when turnaround times increase. The mail system is closed-loop
between the user and NASA.
SpaceLink also offers downloadable shareware and public domain programs
useful for science educators as well as space graphics and GIF images
from NASA's planetary probes and the Hubble Telescope.
You can dial in at (205)-895-0028 (300/1200/2400/9600(V.32) baud, 8
bits, no parity, 1 stop bit), or telnet to spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov
(128.158.13.250, also known as xsl.msfc.nasa.gov) if you're on the
Internet. Anonymous FTP capability (password guest) is now available.
Most of this information is also available from the Ames server in
directory SPACELINK.
NATIONAL SPACE SCIENCE DATA CENTER (NSSDC)
The National Space Science Data Center is the official clearinghouse for
NASA data. The data catalog (*not* the data itself) is available online.
Internet users can telnet to nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.36.23) and
log in as 'NODIS' (no password). You can also get the catalog by sending
email to 'request@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov'.
You can also dial in at (301)-286-9000 (300, 1200, or 2400 baud, 8 bits,
no parity, one stop). At the "Enter Number:" prompt, enter MD and
carriage return. When the system responds "Call Complete," enter a few
more carriage returns to get the "Username:" and log in as 'NODIS' (no
password).
The system is menu-driven; topics available as of 3/93 are:
1 - Master Directory - NASA & Global Change
2 - Personnel Information Management System
3 - Nimbus-7 GRID TOMS Data
4 - Interplanetary Medium Data (OMNI)
5 - Request data and/or information from NSSDC
6 - Geophysical Models
7 - CANOPUS Newsletter
8 - International Ultraviolet Explorer Data Request
9 - CZCS Browse and Order Utility
10 - Astronomical Data Center (ADC)
11 - STEP Bulletin Board Service
12 - Standards and Technology Information System
13 - Planetary Science & Magellan Project Information
14 - Other Online Data Services at NSSDC
15 - CD-ROMS Available at NSSDC
For users with Internet access, datasets are made available via
anonymous FTP once you select the desired datasets from the online
catalog. For other users, data may be ordered on CD-ROM and in other
formats. Among the many types of data available are Voyager, Magellan,
and other planetary images, Earth observation data, and star catalogs.
Viewers for Macintosh and IBM systems are also available. As an example
of the cost, an 8 CD set of Voyager images is $75. Data may ordered
online, by email, or by physical mail. The postal address is:
National Space Science Data Center
Request Coordination Office
Goddard Space Flight Center
Code 633
Greenbelt, MD 20771
Telephone: (301) 286-6695
Email address: request@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
SPACE TELESCOPE SCIENCE INSTITUTE ELECTRONIC INFORMATION SERVICE
stsci.edu (130.167.1.2) has a large amount of information about the
Hubble Space Telescope available by anonymous FTP, such as status
reports and newsletters, in addition to material oriented towards HST
observers and proposers. Get the top level README file to begin with.
Contact Pete Reppert (reppert@stsci.edu) or Chris O'Dea
(odea@stsci.edu).
STARCAT
The Space Telescope European Coordination Facility, at ESO/Garching
provides on-line access to a huge astronomical database, featuring
- Observation log files of several satellites/telescopes
(IUE,IRAS,HST,NTT...).
- Spectra and images (IUE, HST).
- Most of the astronomical catalogues (SAO, HR, NGC, PPM, IRAS,
Veron, GSC and many others, more than 50) in a very convenient
way (give center+radius+kind of objects, and you get the
corresponding files!).
Log on as ``starcat'' (no password) on node stesis.hq.eso.org
(134.171.8.100) or on STESIS (DECnet). The files created can be
retreived by FTP. Contact: Benoit Pirenne, bpirenne@eso.org (phone +49
89 320 06 433) at ST-ECF
ASTRONOMICAL DATABASES
The full SAO stellar database is *NOT* available online, probably due to
the 40 MB size. It may be ordered on magnetic tape from the NSSDC. A
subset containing position and magnitude only is available by FTP (see
"Astronomy Programs" below).
nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) has a large collection of astronomical
programs for many types of computers, databases of stars and deep sky
objects, and general astronomy information in directory /pub/astro. This
site is mainly for European users, but overseas connections are
possible.
The Ames archives contain a database of 8,436 galaxies including name,
RA, declination, magnitude, and radial velocity in MISC/galaxy.dat.
Supplied by Wayne Hayes (wayne@csri.utoronto.ca).
iris1.ucis.dal.ca (129.173.18.107) has a number of GIFs from Voyager,
Hubble, and other sources available by anonymous FTP in pub/gif (most of
this data is also in SPACE/GIF on the Ames server). Please restrict
access to 5pm - 8am Atlantic time.
pomona.claremont.edu has the Yale Bright Star catalog for anonymous FTP
in directory [.YALE_BSC]. Contact James Dishaw
(jdishaw@hmcvax.claremont.edu).
The Hubble Guide Star catalog is available on CD-ROM for the Mac and PC
for $49.95 US (catalog # ST101).
Astronomical Society of the Pacific
390 Ashton Ave.
San Francisco, CA 94112
Phone: (415) 337-2624 9 AM - 3 PM Pacific Time
FAX: (415) 337-5205
For German (and possibly other European) readers, Jost Jahn has a
service to distribute astronomical data to interested amateurs at cost.
About 30-40 catalogs are available for DM 6..8/disk. Several floppy disk
formats are available. Because of the expense of receiving email on his
system, he asks that you contact him by physical mail:
Jost Jahn
Neustaedter Strasse 11
W-3123 Bodenteich
GERMANY
Phone: FRG-5824-3197
ASTRONOMY PROGRAMS
Various astronomy-related programs and databases posted to the net in
the past are archived for anonymous FTP at multiple sites, including
ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9). Also see the ASTRO-FTP list posted to sci.astro
monthly, which is more complete than this list.
Astonomical/Space-related sources of interest in comp.sources.unix:
Volume 8: phoon moon phase and date routines
Volume 12,13: starchart starchart program & Yale Star data
Volume 15: moontool shows moon phase picture on Suns
Volume 16: sao reduced SAO catalog
Astonomical/Space-related sources of interest in comp.sources.misc:
Volume 8: moon another moon phase program
Volume 11: starchart starchart program, version 3.2
Volume 11: n3emo-orbit orbit: track earth satellites
Volume 12: starchart2 starchart program, update to version 3.2.1
Volume 13: jupmoons plotter for Jupiter's major moons [in perl]
Volume 13: lunisolar lunisolar (not sure what this does)
Volume 14: ephem-4.21 astronomical ephemeris, v4.21
Volume 14: n3emo-orbit patch to orbit 3.7
Volume 18: planet planet generation simulator
Elwood Downey (e_downey@tasha.cca.cr.rockwell.com), the author of
"ephem", has offered to mail copies to people who can't find it on one
of the archives.
XSAT, an X Window System based satellite tracking program, is
available by anonymous FTP from export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12) in
contrib/xsat1.0.tar.Z. Contact Dave Curry (davy@ecn.purdue.edu)
for more information.
Xsky, a computerized sky atlas for the X Window System, is available for
anonymous FTP on arizona.edu in the directory [.SOFTWARE.UNIX.XSKY] as
xsky.tarz. Contact Terry R. Friedrichsen (terry@venus.sunquest.com) for
more information.
The "Variable Stars Analysis Software Archive" is available via
anonymous FTP from kauri.vuw.ac.nz (130.195.11.3) in directory
pub/astrophys. This is intended for specialists in this field, and they
would appreciate people from outside New Zealand confining their FTP
access to the astrophys directory, as they pay a significant amount for
Internet access. Contents are relatively sparse at present due to the
youth of the archive - contributions are encouraged. Contact the archive
administrator, Timothy Banks (bankst@kauri.vuw.ac.nz) for more
information.
The "IDL Astronomy Users Library" is available by anonymous FTP from
idlastro.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.57.82). This is a central repository for
general purpose astronomy procedures written in IDL, a commercial image
processing, plotting, and programming language. Contact Wayne Landsman
(landsman@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov) for more information.
ORBITAL ELEMENT SETS
The most recent orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are
carried on the Celestial BBS, (513)-427-0674. Documentation and tracking
software are also available on this system. The Celestial BBS may be
accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1
stop bit, no parity.
Orbital element sets are available via anonymous FTP from the
following sites:
archive.afit.af.mil (129.92.1.66) NASA,TVRO,Shuttle
directory: /pub/space
ftp.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) NASA,TVRO,Molczan,CelBBS,
directory: /pub/astro/pc/satel Shuttle (*)
kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.1.165) NASA,Molczan
directory: /pub/space/
SPACE DIGEST ARCHIVES
Copies of back issues of Space Digest are archived on
LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET. Send mail containing the message "INDEX SPACE" to
get an index of files; send it the message "GET filename filetype" to
get a particular file.
LANDSAT AND NASA PHOTOS
You can get black-and-white 1:1M prints, negatives, or positives for
$10, $18, $12 respectively for any Landsat data more than 2 years old
from EDC, (Eros (Earth Resources Orbiting Satellite) Data Center). Call
them at (605)-594-6511. You get 80 meter resolution from the MSS
scanner, 135x180 kilometers on a picture 135x180 mm in size. I think you
have to select one band from (green, red, near IR, second near IR), but
I'm not sure. Digitial data is also available at higher prices.
Transparencies of all NASA photos available to the public can be
borrowed from the NASA photo archive; you can have copies or prints
made.
NASA Audio-Visual Facility
918 North Rengstorff Ave
Mountain View, CA 94043
(415)-604-6270
PLANETARY MAPS
The USGS address for maps of the planets is:
U.S. Geological Survey,
Distribution Branch,
Box 25286, Federal Center, Bldg. 41
Denver, CO 80225
Maps cost $2.40 to $3.10 per sheet (a few come in sets of 2 or 3 sheets).
The best global maps of Mars based on Viking images are 1:15,000,000
scale in 3 sheets. These maps are:
I-1535 (2 sheets only) - relief, albedo, names
I-1535
I-1618 (3 sheets) - relief, names
I-2030 (3 sheets) - relief, topographic contours
I-1802-A,B,C (3 sheets) - geology
There are many other maps as well: 30 sheets at 1:5,000,000 scale in
relief, albedo, geology, photomosaic forms (not all 30 sheets available
in all formats); 140 sheets at 1:2,000,000 scale as photomosaics of the
whole planet, about 100 sheets of interesting sites at 1:500,000 scale
in photomosaic format, and lots of special sheets.
Then there are maps of Mercury, Venus, the Moon, the four Galilean
Satellites, six moons of Saturn and five of Uranus. [Phil Stooke
(stooke@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca), the author of this item, has offered to
respond to email requests for information on any topic relating to lunar
and planetary maps.]
COMETARY ORBIT DATA
The Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams and the Minor Planet
Center announce the sixth edition of the Catalogue of Cometary Orbits in
IAU Circular 4935. The catalogue contains 1292 entries which represent
all known comets through November 1989 and is 96 pages long.
Non-subscribers to the Circulars may purchase the catalogue for $15.00
while the cost to subscribers is $7.50. The basic catalogue in ASCII
along with a program to extract specific orbits and calculate
ephemerides is available on MS-DOS 5.25-inch 2S2D diskette at a cost of
$75.00 (the program requires an 8087 math coprocessor). The catalogue
alone is also available by e-mail for $37.50 or on magnetic tape for
$300.00.
Except for the printed version of the catalogue, the various magnetic
media or e-mail forms of the catalogue do not specifically meantion
non-subscribers. It is possible that these forms of the catalogue may
not be available to non-subscribers or that their prices may be more
expensive than those given. Mail requests for specific information and
orders to:
Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams
Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory
Cambridge, MA 02138, USA
NEXT: FAQ #4/15 - Performing calculations and interpreting data formats
| 14sci.space |
This past winter I drove from NYC to Killington,VT 6 or 7 times in my
1990 325i Convertible (talk about poor reputation in the snow!!)
with an EXCELLENT set of snow tires. I put 4 Noika NR10s on in Dec. and have been
sure footed in some pretty severe weather conditions ever since. I've plowed through
4 - 5 inch snow covered roads effortlessly, while other cars have been paralyzed
(front wheel drive included).
Concentrate more on "where the rubber meets the road" rather than driveability of cars
in snowy conditions. Drive carefully, buy good snow tires, and most cars will perform
adequately in less than ideal conditions.
An aside:
I can't praise Noika NR10 snows enough. Absolutely the BEST snow tires I have ever
driven on. If you live in the snow belt, do yourself a favor and get a set of these
next winter.
Tim
---
Timothy J. Bigham | All opinions expressed above are my own
Lehman Brothers, Inc. | and should not be construed as those of
AMEX Tower, World Financial Center | my employer.
New York, N.Y. |
| 7rec.autos |
In article <jnmoyne-210493143813@moustic.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
>In article <1r3qeb$k35@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green
>- Pixel Cruncher) wrote:
>>
>> A bill breezed through the NC House to lower the intoxification level
>> from .1 to .08. It faces stiff opposition in the Senate. Recently,
>> the Highway Patrol took a few of the opposition Senators out and gave
>> them some shots, and when they hit .07, put them on a course dodging
>> cones. They failed, and will probably change their votes as a result.
>
> Did they try to do the course before having a few drinks ?
>
> I don't see a senator that has is fat but driven around in a limo
>being a good driver no mater how many drinks he has had before.
>
> JNM
Yeah, really, no shit!
Like that jerk Loch Faircloth that couldn't win an election
as a democrat so he switches to republican the year before this
past election and takes Terry Sanford out with his bitch
and moan campaigning typical of NC senate/house/gubner races.
I swear, I'd kick Jesse Helms in the head if I ever got the chance.
Maybe then he'd get a fucking clue as to how the rest of
the world lives.
--
Andy Infante | You can listen to what everybody says, but the fact remains |
'71 BMW R60/5 | that you've got to get out there and do the thing yourself. |
DoD #2426 | -- Joan Sutherland |
==============| My opinions, dammit, have nothing to do with anyone else!!! |
| 8rec.motorcycles |
jasons@atlastele.com (Jason Smith) writes:
...
>For several years all I knew is I really liked dropping 'cid (LSD).
>Frankly speaking, I didn't really care. It was fun anyway.
>It didn't matter that every child my wife and I want to have are at a
>*tremendously* greater risk of serious birth defects.
Does it matter that the study (yes, singular) that showed LSD causing
birth defects also holds true for aspirin? Does it matter that
this study is flat-out wrong, and LSD does not give you a greater
risk of having children with birth defects?
---
Merlyn LeRoy
| 19talk.religion.misc |
May as well look at one piece of this at a time. This paragraph:
>To demonstrate the effectiveness of this new technology, the
>Attorney General will soon purchase several thousand of the new
>devices. In addition, respected experts from outside the
>government will be offered access to the confidential details of
>the algorithm to assess its capabilities and publicly report
>their findings.
means they aren't planning to make it public, as was done with DES. As it
says in both sci.crypt FAQs, there's no way we are going to achieve the
same level of comfort with Clipper that we finally have with DES if we
can't actually get our hands on the bits and watch them flow around. Even
the best experts aren't going to think of everything: look how long it
took Biham and Shamir to get a handle on just how good DES is... and for
all we know there's still more to learn.
--
Jim Gillogly
Trewesday, 25 Astron S.R. 1993, 17:10
| 11sci.crypt |
Daniel Segard (dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
[a lot of stuff deleted]
: For that matter, stay Biblical and call it Omar Rasheet (The Feast of
: First Fruits). Torah commands that this be observed on the day following
: the Sabbath of Passover week. (Sunday by any other name in modern
: parlance.) Why is there so much objection to observing the Resurrection
: on the 1st day of the week on which it actually occured? Why jump it all
: over the calendar the way Easter does? Why not just go with the Sunday
: following Passover the way the Bible has it? Why seek after unbiblical
: methods?
:
In fact, that is the reason Easter "jumps all over the calendar"- Passsover
itself is a lunar holiday, not a solar one, and thus falls over a wide
possible span of times. The few times that Easter does not fall during or
after Passover are because Easter is further linked to the Vernal Equinox-
the beginning of spring.
[more deletions]
:
: So what does this question have to do with Easter (the whore
: goddess)? I am all for celebrating the Resurrection. Just keep that
: whore out of the discussion.
:
Your obsession with the term "whore" clouds your argument. "Whore" is
a value judgement, not a descriptive term.
[more deletions]
Overall, this argument is an illustration of the "etymological fallacy"
(see J.P. Louw: _Semantics of NT Greek_). That is the idea that the true
meaning of a word lies in its origins and linguistic form. In fact, our
own experience demonstrates that the meaning of a word is bound up with
how it is _used_, not where it came from. Very few modern people would
make any connection whatsoever between "Easter" and "Ishtar." If Daniel
Seagard does, then for him it has that meaning. But that is a highly
idiosyncratic "meaning," and not one that needs much refutation.
revdak@netcom.com
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr13.122543.1682@hemlock.cray.com>, rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:
>
> In article <C5E2JA.849@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
>> This past Thursday VP GOre threw out the first ball at the home opener for
>> the Atlanta Braves. According to the news reports he was quite loudly booed.
>> (No, Dr. Norman, these were not your typical beer swilling red-necks.)
>>
>> Personally I wouldn't have paid any more attention to the incident except
>> that the evening news when describing the event, went on to comment that
>> being booed was nothing unusual since it was normal for audiences to
>> boo at this point since the celebrity was delaying the start of the game.
>>
>> What a bunch of crock. I have never heard of any incident in which the
>> thrower of the ceremonial ball has been booed before.
>
> Dan Quayle got roundly booed in Milwaulkee last year. (I was listening
> on the radio). This was the game that Quayle told the Brewers players that
> he would like to see them play the Orioles in the ALCS.
It's come to this, has it? Defending Al Gore by comparing him to Dan Quayle?
I'd say that about says it all... back to the pit with ye, back to alt.fan.
dan-quayle! Begone!
------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
Paul Havemann (Internet: paul@hsh.com)
* They're not just opinions -- they're caffeine for the brain! *
** (Up to 50 milligrams per cynical observation.) **
Recommended Minimum Daily Requirement: 1,000 mg. Keep reading.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I've had similar problems downloading using WinCIM, I discovered that if I
disabled data compression on my modem, it works fine.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
] gtoal@news.ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
] > Try reading between the lines David - there are *strong* hints in there
] > that they're angling for NREN next,
] Where? I honestly didn't see any...
Hint 1:
: Sophisticated encryption technology has been used for years to
: protect electronic funds transfer. It is now being used to
: protect electronic mail and computer files. While encryption
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hint 2:
: This new technology will help companies protect proprietary
: information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations
: and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: electronically. At the same time this technology preserves the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: -- the privacy of our citizens, including the need to
: employ voice or data encryption for business purposes;
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: -- the ability of authorized officials to access telephone
: calls and data, under proper court or other legal
^^^^^^^^
: order, when necessary to protect our citizens;
VERY BIG HINT 3:
# The Administration is committed to working with the private
# sector to spur the development of a National Information
# Infrastructure which will use new telecommunications and computer
# technologies to give Americans unprecedented access to
# information. This infrastructure of high-speed networks
# ("information superhighways") will transmit video, images, HDTV
# programming, and huge data files as easily as today's telephone
# system transmits voice.
VERY BIG HINT 4: (See above)
## Since encryption technology will play an increasingly important
## role in that infrastructure, the Federal Government must act
## quickly to develop consistent, comprehensive policies regarding
## its use.
] > and the only conceivable meaning of
] > applying this particular technology to a computer network is that they
] > intend it to be used in exclusion to any other means of encryption.
] I disagree, if for no other reason than that there are already other
] standards in place. Besides, even if they restrict encryption on the NREN,
] who cares? Most of the Internet is commercial anyway. The NREN is only for
] geovernment and university research (read the proposals--it's a "data
] superhighway" for Cray users, not anything having to do with the Internet).
Oh, I see your point. I think you're wrong. But if you sit back and wait
to find out if I'm right, it'll be too late. Just listen *very* carefully
for the first 'such and such will not be permitted on network XYZ' shoe to
drop.
G
| 11sci.crypt |
(Please note followup)
In <1993Apr27.012045.8543@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi
Beyer") writes:
>You guys are funny. It's funny to see people lose control and
>start the name calling when they realize they have no point.
Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is name-calling of the lowest kind.
Please don't be disingenuous.
>They [civil libertarians] would support the
>Jews against the Nazis or anyone else who tries to oppress them
>and they would support the Arabs against the Israelis and any
>other such oppressive regimes (Iraq etc.)
Do civil libertarians make no distinction between the Nazis and
Israel? Would you say that the Iraqis are like the Nazis?
If you do not make such distinctions, then all injustices are
equally evil, and the world is a completely evil place. In that
case, we may as well give up right now.
--
David F. Skoll
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Hi,
I've noticed that if you only save a model (with all your mapping planes
positioned carefully) to a .3DS file that when you reload it after restarting
3DS, they are given a default position and orientation. But if you save
to a .PRJ file their positions/orientation are preserved. Does anyone
know why this information is not stored in the .3DS file? Nothing is
explicitly said in the manual about saving texture rules in the .PRJ file.
I'd like to be able to read the texture rule information, does anyone have
the format for the .PRJ file?
Is the .CEL file format available from somewhere?
Rych
======================================================================
Rycharde Hawkes email: rych@festival.ed.ac.uk
Virtual Environment Laboratory
Dept. of Psychology Tel : +44 31 650 3426
Univ. of Edinburgh Fax : +44 31 667 0150
======================================================================
| 1comp.graphics |
This question derives from the Waco incident:
Could CS ("gas") particles create an allergic response which would
result in laryngospasm and asphyxiation?- especially in children.
DNC in Ok.
OSU-COM will disavow my opinion, and my existence, if necessary.
| 13sci.med |
In article <sandvik-160493205451@sandvik-kent.apple.com>
sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>In article <1993Apr16.181605.15072@ra.royalroads.ca>,
>mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) wrote:
>> This brings up another question I still have to ponder: why is there so
>> much anti-Semitism? Why do people hate Jews? I don't hate Jews. I consider
>> them to be like anyone else, sinners we all are.
>I don't know, I don't care about ethnical rights and wrongs myself,
>but it's evident that Christians consider Jews no longer to be the
>sole selected group of God's people -- while Jews consider this to
>be the case.
Christian anti-Semitism comes from the obvious fact that the Jews should
know the Hebrew Scriptures better than anyone else, yet they did not
convert to Christianity en mass, thus rejecting "Christian Love."
>No wonder this caused anti-Semitism. One might even
>wonder that if Christianity didn't do this separation, would anti-Semitism
>have even started?
I don't see why not. Where are the rest of the tribal people? What
happened to the tribes of the Americas? Culture is seen as different and
undesirable in the West, particular in the US with its failed "melting
pot concept." Most tribes have been hunted to extinction, the Hebrew
tribe is one of the few survivers from the Neolithic. Of course it
becomes difficult at times to separate Christianity from the Western
experience, so perhaps you are right, perhaps it would have been a better
world if the cultural experiment in Christianity never happened.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <122521@netnews.upenn.edu>, kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) writes:
>>>>I prefer
>>>to watch hockey than seeing shots of Felix Potvin slashing and spearing Dino
>>>Ciccerelli standing in front of the net. HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO STAND IN
>>>FRONT OF THE NET, JUST NOT IN THE CREASE!
>
> Yes, he does. BUT, the goalie sure as hell doesn't want him there! When
> I played roller hockey (boy do I miss those days) as a goalie, I would
> scream at my defense to clear guys out of the slot. I don't care if he's
> in the crease or not, get him the hell away from me so I can see the ball!
> (Yes, roller hockey, remember) And if there was nobody around to clear
> the slot, then I'd do it myself by pushing the offending player--*hard*.
> I *hate* people in my way when I'm the goalie, and I am sure Felix does
> too. I should say that I didn't see the incident, so if Potvin really
> swung the stick big time, then that's not right, but he can move people
> out of the way. He's a player on the ice too, you know. :-)
>
> --
> Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
> kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
> In this corner LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!!
> Weighing in at almost every weight imaginable . . .
> Life, and all that surrounds it. -- Blues Traveler, 1993
I have to agree wholeheartedly with this view. I don't like to see stickwork,
but you have to clear players away from in front. My personal favorite move
(I'm a goalie too) is to give the offeding player a good whack on the back
of their skates when the ref isn't looking. Makes 'em go down like a ton of
bricks, but doesn't cause injuries unless they don't know how to fall (I'm
talking about hitting the blades here, not the foot). It also makes the
player you hit and anyone who sees really mad and apt to take a stupid
retaliation penalty. Unfortunately, it also leaves your blocker out of
position for a short time...I don't do this if a shot is likely on the short
side. Hmm....maybe I should mail Potvin this method (in French and with
helpful diagrams, of course). It sure would be nice to see Ciccerelli (who
I have a great deal of respect for, BTW, he's not a big guy, but he plays
huge!) fall on his back a few times! :-)
Barfly
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5nAvn.F3p@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes:
> In article <philC5n6D5.MK3@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
> #Tells you something about the fascist politics being practiced ....
>
> Ah, ending discrimination is now fascism.
>
> -Greg Hennessy, University of Virginia
When you force people to associate with others against their will,
yes.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1993Apr22.132909.5001@nic.csu.net>,
davec@silicon.csci.csusb.edu (Dave Choweller) wrote:
>
> In article <1993Apr22.004405.28052@bnr.ca> (Rashid) writes:
> [stuff deleted...]
> >The point of my post was that Rushdie was not being condemned solely
> >for the "words" in his book (although this was certainly a contributing
> >factor). It was the whole series of actions of Rushdie and his
> >publishers following the publication of the book and the initial media
> >spotlight placed on the book, that (in large part) led to the fatwa. The
> >kind of fatwa levelled against Rushdie is not lightly placed and there
> >are any number of anti-Islamic writers both within and outside the
> >Islamic world who have not had fatwas made against them. Here, someone
> >who adds fuel to an explosive situation, might be charged with incitement
> >to riot - if people die in the rioting the charges against him might
> >become even more serious.
>
> How can Rushdie be blamed for the deaths of people who are demonstrating
> against him? The deaths should be blamed on the people who dealt with
> the demonstrations, or on the demonstrators themselves, if they were
> violent. To what lengths will you go to justify this barbaric behaviour
> against Rushdie?
Once the Rushdie situation exploded into the media, the Muslim voice on
the matter of the book was effectively restricted to short video bytes
showing
the dramatic highlights of Muslim demonstrations. For every twenty or so
newspaper, magazine articles, interviews etc. supporting Rushdie, there
would
appear one Muslim voice. This person was usually selected based on how
dramatic and incoherent he was, not on his knowledge of Islam or the
situation at the time. This approx. twenty to one ratio continued
throughout the escalation of the crisis, with Rushdie in the central
spotlight as the man of the moment, the valiant defender of everyman's
right to free speech decoupled from responsibility. (As an aside, it's
interesting that while the hue and cry about freedom of speech went up,
some books (defaming certain ethnic and religious groups) continued
to be banned here. It was felt that they injured the sensibilities of these
groups and presented a false image which could promote feelings of
hate towards these groups. For Muslims this kind of double standard
was annoying.)
Rushdie saw this spotlight as a golden opportunity to lash out at
"organized"
Islam, and he did so with admirable verbal skill. The only kind of Islam
which Rushdie finds palatable is what he calls a "secular" Islam - an Islam
separated from it's Qur'an, it's Prophet, God, its legislation, and most
importantly from any intrusion into any political arena. Fine - Rushdie
made
his views known - the Muslim's made their anger at his book known. The
scale of the whole affair erupted into global proportions - it was, by this
time,
already a political situation - affecting governments as well as
individuals.
The situation was a serious one, with far-reaching political implications.
At the centre of this turmoil was Rushdie, throwing fuel on the fire -
engaged
in a personal crusade that made him oblivious to any sense of caution.
Now you may feel that the person in the centre of a worldwide storm such as
this has no responsibility, has no reason to exercise restraint of any
kind, has no
obligation to perhaps step back momentarily out of the spotlight till
matters calm down. Perhaps you even feel that he is justified in "boldly"
defying the anger of all those who dare to take umbrage at his literary
work, no matter what insult they find within it. Perhaps you see him as
a kind of secular "heroic Knight",mounted on the his media steed,
doing battle with the "dragon" of Islamic "fundamentalism".
Well Khomeini saw him as a disingeneous author who
grew up in a Muslim atmosphere, knew well what Muslim's hold dear,
who wrote a book which mischievously uses certain literary conventions
to slander, insult, and attack Islam and its most notable personalities -
who, when
faced with a situation that became a worldwide crisis, continued with
his mischief in the world stage of the media - who, even after people were
injured and killed because of the magnitude and emotion of the situation,
continued his mischief, instead of having the good sense to desist.
Khomeini saw the crisis as mischief making on a grand scale, mischief
making that grew in scale as the scale of the crisis enlarged. The deaths
of Muslims around the world and Rushdie's continued media mischief
even after this, was the triggering factor that seemed to
decide Khomeini on putting a stop to the mischief. The person at the
centre of all these events was Rushdie - he was the source of the
continuing mischief - all media support, government support was
just that - support. The source was Rushdie (and his publishers, who
were nothing short of ecstatic at the publicity and were very happy
to see Rushdie constantly in the media). The Islamic rulings that
deal with people who engage in this kind of grand-scale mischief
making, was applied to Rushdie.
>You're attempts at justification are not doing the
> image of Islam any good.
I have made no attempts at justification, only at explanation. "Image" is
the chief concern of Muslim 'apologists' for Islam and for Rushdie.
If Muslims willingly relegated themselves to becoming a sub-culture
within a larger secular culture, such that the secular principles and laws
had precedence over the laws of Islam - then I have no doubt that Islam
would then be thought to have a good "image" (Principally because it would
by and large reflect the secular image). A "good image" usually means " be
more
like me".
Your attempts at TOTALLY exonerating Rushdie reflect exactly the attitude
that
resulted in the polarization brought about by the crisis.
> In Iran, the situation was monitored for many
> >months - when Rushdie kept adding fuel to the flames through the free
> >worldwide voice that the media gave him, the situation was monitored
> >more seriously. When, even after many deaths occured worldwide, Rushdie
> >still did not desist - the fatwa was pronounced. When behaving like
> >a total jerk endangers lives, and the jerk sees this and still insists
> >on his right to behave like a total jerk - he has the rug jerked out
> >from under him.
>
> If the muslims didn't make such a big fuss over the book, like issuing
> death threats, and killing publishers, NO ONE WOULD HAVE HEARD OF IT.
The fatwa came later - much later. If Rushdie didn't mouth off so much in
the
media, the fuss would have died down - no one would have been killed, no
fatwa would have been passed - the whole episode would have fizzled away.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr19.211224.28008@microsoft.com> v-cckch@microsoft.com (Kenneth Charlton) writes:
>Apple dealerships once had kits to replace the soldered in batteries with a battery
>holder.
>
>Real easy to install, but it does require some soldering.
Yes, 4 points, in really big holes which are fairly clear of most of
the other stuff on the board. If you can replace the battery, you
can install the battery holder.
--
Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures. Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1993Apr27.154255.18227@synapse.bms.com>
hambidge@bms.com writes:
>
>In article <C65E95.D7u@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr27.071223.3508@uoft02.utoledo.edu> steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Jason 'Think!' Steiner) writes:
>>>James P. Dusek (dusek@rtsg.mot.com) writes:
>>>> garrod@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (David Garrod) writes:
>>>
>>>> They did, they used CS that would NOT harm children.
>>>
>>>i REALLY hope you're being sarcastic here, but i've seen so many
>>>stupid things said in complete seriousness that it's hard to tell
>>>without a smiley.
>>>
>>>do you actually believe there's a CS gas that can discriminate based
>>>on the age of the target?
>>
>>Yes, the gas used was a mild concentration or formulation compared to
>>the 'heavy duty' stuff.
>
>You know this for a fact? How do you know? Or, are you just making
>things up for flamebait?
>
The FBI has claimed from the begining that it wasn't standard use
tear gas. How do you know it was? Or do you just assume it was
for flamebait?
Richard
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <65974@mimsy.umd.edu>
mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate) writes:
>>Well, John has a quite different, not necessarily more elaborated theology.
>>There is some evidence that he must have known Luke, and that the content
>>of Q was known to him, but not in a 'canonized' form.
>
>This is a new argument to me. Could you elaborate a little?
>
The argument goes as follows: Q-oid quotes appear in John, but not in
the almost codified way they were in Matthew or Luke. However, they are
considered to be similar enough to point to knowledge of Q as such, and
not an entirely different source.
>>Assuming that he knew Luke would obviously put him after Luke, and would
>>give evidence for the latter assumption.
>
>I don't think this follows. If you take the most traditional attributions,
>then Luke might have known John, but John is an elder figure in either case.
>We're talking spans of time here which are well within the range of
>lifetimes.
We are talking date of texts here, not the age of the authors. The usual
explanation for the time order of Mark, Matthew and Luke does not consider
their respective ages. It says Matthew has read the text of Mark, and Luke
that of Matthew (and probably that of Mark).
As it is assumed that John knew the content of Luke's text. The evidence
for that is not overwhelming, admittedly.
>>>(1) Earlier manuscripts of John have been discovered.
>
>>Interesting, where and which? How are they dated? How old are they?
>
>Unfortunately, I haven't got the info at hand. It was (I think) in the late
>'70s or early '80s, and it was possibly as old as CE 200.
>
When they are from about 200, why do they shed doubt on the order on
putting John after the rest of the three?
>>I don't see your point, it is exactly what James Felder said. They had no
>>first hand knowledge of the events, and it obvious that at least two of them
>>used older texts as the base of their account. And even the association of
>>Luke to Paul or Mark to Peter are not generally accepted.
>
>Well, a genuine letter of Peter would be close enough, wouldn't it?
>
Sure, an original together with Id card of sender and receiver would be
fine. So what's that supposed to say? Am I missing something?
>And I don't think a "one step removed" source is that bad. If Luke and Mark
>and Matthew learned their stories directly from diciples, then I really
>cannot believe in the sort of "big transformation from Jesus to gospel" that
>some people posit. In news reports, one generally gets no better
>information than this.
>
>And if John IS a diciple, then there's nothing more to be said.
>
That John was a disciple is not generally accepted. The style and language
together with the theology are usually used as counterargument.
The argument that John was a disciple relies on the claim in the gospel
of John itself. Is there any other evidence for it?
One step and one generation removed is bad even in our times. Compare that
to reports of similar events in our century in almost illiterate societies.
Not even to speak off that believers are not necessarily the best sources.
>>It is also obvious that Mark has been edited. How old are the oldest
>>manuscripts? To my knowledge (which can be antiquated) the oldest is
>>quite after any of these estimates, and it is not even complete.
>
>The only clear "editing" is problem of the ending, and it's basically a
>hopeless mess. The oldest versions give a strong sense of incompleteness,
>to the point where the shortest versions seem to break off in midsentence.
>The most obvious solution is that at some point part of the text was lost.
>The material from verse 9 on is pretty clearly later and seems to represent
>a synopsys of the end of Luke.
>
In other words, one does not know what the original of Mark did look like
and arguments based on Mark are pretty weak.
But how is that connected to a redating of John?
Benedikt
| 0alt.atheism |
It occurs to me that if they get a wiretap order on you, and the escrow
houses release your code to the cops, your code is now no longer secure.
It's in the hands of cops, and while I am sure most of the time they are
good, their security will not be as good as the escrow houses.
What this effectively means is that if they perform a wiretap on you,
at the end of the wiretap, they should be obligated to inform you that
a tap was performed, and replace (for free) the clipper chip in your
cellular phone so that it is once again a code known only to the
escrow houses.
Do the police normally reveal every tap they do even if no charges are
laid? In many ways, it would be a positive step if they had to.
Judges set time limits on warrants, I assume. At the end of the time
limit they should have to renew or replace your chip.
That's if we go with this scheme, which I am not sure I agree with.
--
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
| 11sci.crypt |
In article 5742@sunvax.sun.ac.za, 8910782@sunvax.sun.ac.za () writes:
>I am also looking for a surface for the chesspieces. The board is marble.
>Unfortunately black won't work very well for the one side. Anybody with ideas
>for nice surfaces?
How about brass or silver? I've seen real chessboards that use that material.
>
>Where should I post the finished chessboard?
>
Right here is as good a place as any. Can't wait to see it. I use the POV
raytracer - is it compatible enough for your chessboard?
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seem like he's running on all thrusters!" -- Leonard McCoy
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| 1comp.graphics |
djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu (David Weisberger) writes:
>I have a 5 1/4" drive as drive A. How can I make the system boot from
>my 3 1/2" B drive? (Optimally, the computer would be able to boot
>from either A or B, checking them in order for a bootable disk. But
>if I have to switch cables around and simply switch the drives so that
>it can't boot 5 1/4" disks, that's OK. Also, boot_b won't do the trick
>for me.)
>Thanks,
> Davebo
You can try to get into the setup byt pressing CTRL-ALT-INS or
CTRL-ALT-PrintScreen on most PC's. That should give you an option
to set regarding the drives to boot from.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <C5sDyp.C6E@bony1.bony.com>, billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp) writes:
> In article <C5rLnE.4pC@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pmy@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU (Pete Yadlowsky) writes:
>
>>Arms? Automatic weapons, grenades, rocket launchers? The sorts of things
>>no family should be without, I guess. Anyway, I've often wondered what
>>business followers of Christ would have with weapons. It's hard to imagine a
>>pistol-packin' Jesus, though I suppose a pump-action shotgun would have
>>made clearing the temple a hell of a lot easier.
>
> FYI, these people were not "followers of Christ". David Koresh was
> their messiah.
After all, if the FBI had thought Koresh was a true prophet, wouldn't
they have burned the building the first day of the siege?
--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Joe Gaut | In the super-state, it really does not
<f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> | matter at all what actually happened.
Red-neck and proud of it. | Truth is what the government chooses to
| tell you. Justice is what it wants to happen.
Jim Garrison, New Orleans, La.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1pfj8k$6ab@access.digex.com> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>In article <1993Mar31.161814.11683@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>It isn't feasible for Japan to try to stockpile the amount of oil they
>>would need to run their industries if they did no use nuclear power.
>Of course, Given they export 50 % of the GNP, What do they do.
Well they don't export anywhere near 50% of their GNP. Mexico's perhaps
but not their own. They actually export around the 9-10% mark. Similar
to most developed countries actually. Australia exports a larger share
of GNP as does the United States (14% I think off hand. Always likely to
be out by a factor of 12 or more though) This would be immediately obvious
if you thought about it.
>Anything serious enough to disrupt the sea lanes for oil will
>also hose their export routes.
It is their import routes that count. They can do without exports but
they couldn't live without imports for any longer than six months if that.
>Given they import everything, oil is just one more critical commodity.
Too true! But one that is unstable and hence a source of serious worry.
Joseph Askew
--
Joseph Askew, Gauche and Proud In the autumn stillness, see the Pleiades,
jaskew@spam.maths.adelaide.edu Remote in thorny deserts, fell the grief.
Disclaimer? Sue, see if I care North of our tents, the sky must end somwhere,
Actually, I rather like Brenda Beyond the pale, the River murmurs on.
| 14sci.space |
> >
> > Doesn't a 1 MB SIMM have about 1024 * 1024 * 8 moving flip-flops?
>
> They don't move, to anybody much bigger than an electron :-)
And they're more like 1024x1024x8 charging & discharging capacitors in a DRAM
SIMM =-)
Anthony D. Saxton
Elenay Creations
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
I am looking for a program called VBREADER. It is an off line mail
reader for Windows using QWK mail packets. Or if anyone knows of
any good QWK mail readers please let me know.
Thanks
Kevin
_______________________________________________________________________
Kevin C. Donoghue Internet: donoghue@donoghue.win.net
Donoghue International "Few love to hear the sins they love to act"
2437 Grand Ave. Suite 273 -- William Shakespear
Ventura CA 93003
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1pq63o$n7t@access.digex.net>
huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>In article <1ph4c8$8j6@shrike.und.ac.za>
dace@shrike.und.ac.za (Roy Dace) writes:
>}Herb Huston (huston@access.digex.com) wrote:
>}: Actually, cannibalism is quite widespread. My favorite examples are sand
>}: sharks and mackerel sharks. The fetuses begin cannibalizing each other, and
>}: the one that is eventually born enters the sea with a full stomache. Would
>}: you like some more gruesome examples?
>}Fair enough - I'm pretty well aware of the examples used - and mine were very
>}rapidly and thoughtlessly pulled out of thin air, but the point I'm making is
>}that our non-cannibalism doesn't imply any `value' over other animals.
>Did something happen while I wasn't looking? When did _Homo sapiens_ become
>non-cannibalistic?
Including ritualized cannibalism where the act itself becomes sacred?
| 0alt.atheism |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <C5Mu5z.HH8@unix.amherst.edu> ddsokol@unix.amherst.edu (D. DANIEL SOKOL) writes:
>
>Roger Lustig (roger@crux.Princeton.EDU) wrote:
>> In article <1993Apr16.220309.1@acad.drake.edu> sbp002@acad.drake.edu writes:
>> >In article <C5L9zs.44n@world.std.com>, Eastgate@world.std.com (Mark Bernstein) writes:
>> >> For that matter, how many Gentleman of The Press Box have been Jewish? The
>> >> only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had
>> >> a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s.
>> >Howard Cosell is one who comes to mind.
>> Gee, d'ya think Len Berman's Jewish?
>
>How about Steve Stone of WGN who does the Cubs?
We already got him under Pitchers, Overrated, Jewish.
>or Tony Korhiezer and Shirly Povich (Maury's dad) of the Washington Post?
Probably. Is SHirley P still alive? Just wondering.
Roger
>-Danny
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Was Subject: Re: Gilligan's island, den of iniquity
In article 5869@nuscc.nus.sg, matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Matthew MacIntyre at the National University of Senegal) writes:
>beb@pt.com (Bruce Buck) writes:
>: In article <1993Apr13.011033.23123@nuscc.nus.sg> matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Matthew MacIntyre at the National University of Senegal) writes:
>: >: >> Gilligan = Sloth
>: >: >> Skipper = Anger
>: >: >> Thurston Howell III = Greed
>: >: >> Lovey Howell = Gluttony
>: >: >> Ginger = Lust
>: >: >> Professor = Pride
>: >: >> Mary Ann = Envy
>: >
>: >Assorted Monkeys= Secular Humanism
>:
>: Assorted Headhunters - Godless, Heathen Savagery
>: Russian Agent who looks like Gilligan - Godless Communism
>: Japanese Sailor - Godless Barbarism
>: Walter Pigeon - Godless Bird Turd
>: The Mosquitos (Bingo, Bango, Bongo, Irving) - Godless Rock'n'Roll
>: Harold Heckuba (Phil Silvers) - Hollywood Hedonism
>: John McGiver - Butterfly flicking
>: Tonga, the Fake Apeman - Deceit, Lust
>: Eva Grubb - Deceit, lust
Need we way anything MORE about how the Hideous Hand
of the Evil Right Wing Religious Fanatics have TRIED
to corrupt the Moral Fibre of American Children using
the New TV Media to implant Ideologically Dangerous IDEAS
into the Heads of Innocent Children.
ciao
drieux
ps: Clearly it is TIME to support Madaline Murry O'Hare's Quest
to stop this FORM of Christian Prosylatizing........
---
"All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!
All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!"
-Last Call of the Wild of the Humour Lemmings
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Can I view JPEG files without special hardware?
Lucy Wilson, Access Services Librarian
College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <C5Hr5M.KH2@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lis450bw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (lis450 Student) writes:
>Eric, you bring up a point that I hadn't heard before, and would like
>explanation on. Did I understand you correctly when you said that
>the idea that Christianity has an objective morality is absurd? I read
>it as saying that Christians don't claim any sense of abolute morality.
I believe that the idea of objective morality is absurd, becasuse all
the evidence I've seen indicates that morality and moral systems are
man made and thus subjective.
This is not a shot at Christianity; I would apply it to any other person
or group that advocates objective morality, unless said person/group
can provide some sort of evidence to support that claim.
Actually, Christians do claim an absolute morality, but that is another
matter.
>I always heard it said that Christians claim a moral system, but there is
>no reason to follow it rather than any other. Is this more in line with
>what you meant?
No, not really.
>MAC
>
eric
| 0alt.atheism |
> (Sean Garrison) writes:
>} Alright. I have one thing to say. I don't know if it's just me, but I
>} thought this newsgroup is a place for discussion. Why must people
>} constantly post these little messages about how a certain team is winning
>} in a certain inning? I mean, come on! How many people are so dependent on
>} this newsgroup that they have to find out the scores mid-game here?
> cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok) writes:
>amen.
I hear ya, brother.
> take a look at the timestamps on some
> of the posts you read sometime--the propagation delays are significant,
> often hours or even days, and even people who have access to machines
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> which are close to the poster on the network...
Let's try WEEKS! It is April 18th today and I just finished reading posts
regarding the Cleveland Indians boating tragedy. Needless to say, I don't want
to read partial linescores of games played 3 weeks ago.
As Charles mentioned (I excluded the quote): Join a mailing list if you want to
woof (I consider entering 4th inning scores as woofing). Thank you. Now to
plug on and read the rest of the posts about spring training...
_____________________________________________________________________________
Jim Savoy University Of Lethbridge savoy@hg.uleth.ca
Sigless and Bible Black
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr14.225821.13000@advtech.uswest.com> joe@advtech.uswest.com ( Joe Thielen) writes:
>Xref: sun1x rec.autos:5997 misc.consumers:3163
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>.ohio-state.edu!csn!cherokee!joe
>From: joe@advtech.uswest.com ( Joe Thielen)
>Subject: Re: Warped brake discs on '91 Taurus L
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>In article <1993Apr14.132206.19001@ryn.mro4.dec.com> balsamo@stargl.enet.dec.com
>(Antonio L. Balsamo (Save the wails)) writes:
>>
>>From: Dmerrill@bnr.ca (Dana Merrill)
>>Subject: Re: Warped brake discs on '91 Taurus L
>>
>> > Anyone else had the same problem ?
>>
>> Well, I have an '92 Taurus GL. Apparently they still haven't fixed the
>> problem with the rotors. I've got 26K miles on the clock and I'm getting
>> the rotors (and pads) replaces tonight...at my expense of course.
>>
>> Tony
>>--
>>
>I owned a Ford Mustang 4 that had endless brake problems. The bad
>thing was that it had all other kinds of problems too. Spent 2 months
>in the shop in the first 2 years I owned it (bought new). So I got
>rid of it, and will more than likely not buy a Ford product in the
>future. The thing that really ticked me off was how Ford treated me.
>They were such jerks it was unbelievable!
>-- Joe
In the past few years I have owned 3 Mustang GTs and now own a 91 T-Bird SC.
They all have had this problem. There was a recall on the T-bird for the brake
problem. The Ford dealer replaced the rotors and pads but the rotors warp
after about 10K miles. Between this problem and the fit and finish problems on
the T-Bird I'll never buy a Ford again.
Bruce S. Winters BSW@utrc.utc.com
United Technologies Research Center E. Hartford Ct. USA
| 7rec.autos |
How about posting one of her replies to your letters?
-km
| 13sci.med |
Reports in Ottawa today say that the Senators have come to a verbal
agreement with last seasons first pick and 2nd overall choice Alexei
Yashin on a 5 year deal. As well the Senators have signed their second
round pick Chad Penney who is currently playing for the Sault Ste. Marie
Greyhounds in the Ontario Junior league playoffs.
Mike D'Amico
BNR
Ottawa, Ontario
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1993Apr16.063425.163999@zeus.calpoly.edu> dfield@flute.calpoly.edu (InfoSpunj (Dan Field)) writes:
>I love the FAQ.
>
>The comment about contact lenses not being an option for any remaining
>correction after RK and possibly after PRK is interresting. Why is
>this? Does anyone know for sure whether this applies to PRK as well?
>
>Also, why is it possible to get a correction in PRK with involvement of
>only about 5% of the corneal depth, while RK is done to a depth of up to
>95%? Why such a difference?
In myopia the cornea is too curved. There is too much of a bulge in the
center.
In PRK the laser removes a small amount of material from the center.
In RK the surgeon cuts incisions near the edge. They heal, and the scarring
reshapes the cornea.
Entirely different mechanisms, and the action is in a different place.
-dk
| 13sci.med |
I have tickets for the TB Giants and I was wondering if
anybody familiar with the stadium could tell me where
Section 15 in the lower level is located.
Please e-mail the response,
Thanks,
Rich
--
"You've read the hat, now see the movie."
-Imus in the morning
"A blurb? You're a blurb!"
-Seinfeld
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <C5GEH5.n1D@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL) writes:
>Oh yeah, I just read in another newsgroup that the T560i uses a high quality
>Trinitron tube than is in most monitors.(the Sony 1604S for example) and this
>is where the extra cost comes from. It is also where the high bandwidth
>comes from, and the fantastic image, and the large image size, etc, etc...
I agree that the image is as sharp as it gets with these SONY tubes,
however in the 17" monitors using these tubes, the 2 annoying black
lines on the top and bottom quarters of the tube, which are created due
to the wires holding up the Invar Shadow Mask, are quite annoying after
a while. That is the only thing that is making me lean more in favor
of the NEC 5FG (or now also available the NEC 5FGe - only difference,
no ACCUCOLOR ). Any experiences or opinions from people who have used
the NEC 5FG would be appreciated since I want to get one right after
my exams are all done (ie: about a week from now).
-Tony
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gerardis@cs.mcgill.ca | but you're older
however also available ------- | And shorter of breath and one day
tgerardi@nyx.cs.du.edu | closer to DEATH. -Floyd
gerardis@musocs.bitnet |
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Are you people posting this to sci.space because you think
that the Libertarians are inherently spacy or something?
--
Phil Fraering |"Seems like every day we find out all sorts of stuff.
pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|Like how the ancient Mayans had televison." Repo Man
| 14sci.space |
Scott Zabolotzky (saz@hook.corp.mot.com) wrote:
: I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask this question. If not,
: please forgive me and point me in the right direction.
: Does anybody know of a program that converts .GIF files to .BMP files
: and if so, where can I ftp it from? Any help would be greatly
: appreciated.
: Please respond via e-mail as I do not read this group very often.
: Thanks...Scott
Sorry Scott, if you post it here, you can read it here. There is a shareware
program available via anonymous FTP that will suit your needs. You'll find
it at OAK.OAKLAND.EDU in the subdirectory pub/msdos/graphics. The file is
called "GRFWK61T.ZIP."
TMC.
(tmc@spartan.ac.brocku.ca)
| 1comp.graphics |
I have a Jap. import of One on CD single.
It contains:
One
Breadfan
For Whom the Bell Tolls (live)
Sanitarium (live)
One (demo)
Make offer,
Andy
| 6misc.forsale |
In <1qjrec$qem@network.ucsd.edu> spl@ivem.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:
| What I *am* annoyed about is the fact that we were led to believe that
| we *would* be able to upgrade to a multiprocessor version of the
| Crimson without the assistance of a fork lift truck.
It should have been made fairly clear that the *most* Crimson would
ever get was a 150 (75 old style) MHz CPU upgrade. Certainly this
was mentioned on comp.sys.sgi on more than one occasion as being
likely. If our sales folks were saying otherwise, they were either
confused, or less than honest/ethical, or somebody further up the
chain inside SGI was misleading them.
| I'm also annoyed about being sold *several* Personal IRISes at a
| previous site on the understanding *that* architecture would be around
| for a while, rather than being flushed.
There were 4 versions (20, 25, 30, 35), although admittedly the 30 came
out at the same time as the 35, over a period of 2 1/2 years. The
chassis simply couldn't be pushed any further. I'd say 4 years was
a pretty good lifespan, myself, for a system design in this day and
age. Getting the 35 to work caused a lot of gray hairs in both the
hardware and product design groups; we would have been out of our
minds to push it further, and I *know* that was made clear, almost
from the day the 35 started shipping. We had one last kicker in
the form of the Elan graphics, which made 3 graphics versions over
its lifespan, which I also think is pretty good.
| Now I understand that SGI is responsible to its investors and has to
| keep showing a positive quarterly bottom line (odd that I found myself
| pressured on at least two occasions to get the business on the books
| just before the end of the quarter), but I'm just a little tired of
| getting boned in the process.
Please, by all means send a complaint letter through SGI support
or sales on your concerns. There should be no reason for sales folks
to misrepresent future upgrades to customers (sure, sometimes there
will be confusion for a while, over whether an upgrade will be available,
but that shouldn't last too long, and doesn't seem to be what you
are referring to).
Yes, the sales folks *do* get bonus's at the end of some (all?) quarters,
but that is pretty common industry wide, and sometimes that can result
in good deals for customers (sometimes it probably pushes folks into
systems that aren't what they need, I'm sure, but nobody is *forcing*
you to buy at end of quarter, after all...)
| Maybe it's because my lab buys SGIs in onesies and twosies, so we
| aren't entitled to a "peek under the covers" as the Big Kids (NASA,
| for instance) are. This lab, and I suspect that a lot of other labs
They don't get all that long a lead time either; although certainly
they get presentations on possible new products, and their opinions
may well influence the end product, but that also is life in the
industry. We can't design systems that meet just their needs, or we
won't sell too many systems, after all (which is not to say that we
don't have some niche products, like Reality Engine).
| and organizations, doesn't have a load of money to spend on computers
| every year, so we can't be out buying new systems on a regular basis.
| The boxes that we buy now will have to last us pretty much through the
| entire grant period of five years and, in some case, beyond. That
| means that I need to buy the best piece of equipment that I can when I
| have the money, not some product that was built, to paraphrase one
| previous poster's words, 'to fill a niche' to compete with some other
| vendor. I'm going to be looking at this box for the next five years.
| And every time I look at it, I'm going to think about SGI and how I
| could have better spent my money (actually *your* money, since we're
| supported almost entirely by Federal tax dollars).
But surely you don't expect a system you buy now for a five year
period to be constantly upgradable over that entire five year
period? That's a rather unreasonable expectation, in my experience
(with workstations/microcomputers). Supported, and parts available,
yes, but certainly not upgradable to the latest and greatest!
| Now you'll have to pardon me while I go off and hiss and fume in a
| corner somewhere and think dark, libelous thoughts.
I missed your first posting, but as I say, by all means share your
frustation with somebody at a level inside SGI where it might
have an effect (not immediate, I'm sure, but complaints aren't
going to be ignored, and *may* affect future plans, if we
hear similar things from more than one person/site).
All of the above is, as usual, my personal opinion, not SGI's.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent, | Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents. | Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Maria Isabel Barreno | olson@sgi.com
PS: I start my sabbatical 29 May, ask those questions now ;)
| 1comp.graphics |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr22.165729.18393@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tree of Schnopia) writes:
> In <15511@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# ## Sigh. You're absolutely right. We have no political power whatsoever.
#
# #If only that were true. In California, homosexuals have enough power
# #to impose their morals on others.
#
# The only "moral" we're imposing is one which you supposedly embrace already:
# every human being's right to be treated as such.
I don't expect to be hired based on my sexual orientation. If someone
decides he wants a gay-only staff of employees, that's his business.
I won't force him to hire heterosexuals; please don't force me to
hire homosexuals.
# ## Therefore, we should be oppressed and ignored and denigrated, right? I
#
# #You aren't oppressed in California.
#
# But it's OK to oppress us, that's what you're saying!
No. I'm saying it's none of the government's business what two
consenting adults do in private. You don't believe that, unfortunately.
# ## certainly hope you don't have an SO, sir, because if she heard how
# ## disparaging you are towards political minorities, and if she had any shred
# ## of self-respect, she'd be out the door.
#
# #Why do you keep insulting women and blacks by comparing them to
# #homosexuals?
#
# This sort of crap makes me so fucking sick that I can't even bring myself to
# touch it. You're a fuckwit with no perspective, no valid life experience,
# and no true knowledge of the human condition. I see no point in trying to
# convince you politely that we're not all like the ones you've met, because
# you're showing no willingness at all to be open-minded enough to accept that
# your stupid generalizations have exceptions. You are an intellectual waste,
# and the reason you believe the worst of homosexuals is that you bring out
# the worst in them.
#
# ----bi Andrew D. Simchik SCHNOPIA!
And you are yet another reminder of the emotional instability of
homosexuals.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1993Apr8.200326.27560@infonode.ingr.com> albeaj@jima.b17d.ingr.com (Jim Albea) writes:
>
>
>In article <1993Mar24.235606.15959@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
>
>Ouch, now that really hurts. I'm being accused of no breadth nor depth
>to my historical knowledge because I'm unwilling to agree that economic
>inequality leads to poverty and from there to "social and political
>instability". You go read your history again. POVERTY is the main
>engine of social instability (in this context, we'll put aside religious
>turmoil, mass migrations, etc.).
Well, the fact of the matter is that poverty is imperfectly related to
social and political instability, while economic inequality is much more
strongly related. In virtually all major revolutions including
England (the Puritan revolution), France, Russia and China, the
revolutions occurred as economies were undergoing substantial long term
growth and poverty was declining. What sets off revolutions is massive
inequality coupled with a perception on the part of those at the bottom
that social change is possible.
If "poverty (were) the main engine of social instability," this typical
historical pattern would not hold. In fact, revolutions would have been
far more typical before the nineteenth century than since that time.
[Much deleted...]
>|> Gee, Jim, if you'll check the Constitution you'll find "in order to...
>|> promote the general welfare...do ordain and establish this Constitution..."
>|> I'm surprised you missed it. It's right there in the first paragraph. I
>|> would have thought you would have made it at least through the preamble.
>
>You almost got it right, and it was a good try, but you should follow your
>own advice. The PREAMBLE to the CONSTITUTION does read as you have quoted
>but let us not forget that after all it is only the preamble. It is not
>a binding part of the Constitution and carries no weight in the law. That
>poor tortured paragraph has got to be one of the most unfortunate passages
>in the English language - witness the legions of blowhards like yourself who
>think those vague flowery phrases are part of the law of the land. Do you
>really believe that a politician only has to give lip service to "promoting
>the general welfare" to be within the limits of the constitution?
Sorry, buddy, but some other "blowhards" managed to include the "general
welfare" in another portion of the constitution.
Article I Section 8: "The Congress shall have the power to lay and collect
taxes...to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and GENERAL
WELFARE of the United States..."
I guess they wanted to make sure everyone understood they meant what they
said in the preamble.
>Just to make sure you've got the point, let's do a little experiment. What
>if the constitution read as follows?
>
>Preamble: We the people, to promote the general Welfare, do ordain
> and establish this Constitution for the United States of
> America.
>
>Constitution: The Federal Government shall have one function and one
> function only - to provide for the defense of the nation.
>
But as noted above, the constitution doesn't say that, does it?
>The government would not then have two functions: defense and Welfare.
But since it explicitly includes both the general welfare and defense
in Article I, Section 8, I guess you'll grant that botha are constitutional
functions. Right?
jsh
--
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <hatton.733706165@cgl.ucsf.edu> hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:
>adn6285@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>In article <1pctnfINN6dp@eve.usc.edu>, yuanchie@eve.usc.edu (Yuan-Chieh Hsu) writes:
>>> MS DOS 6.0 Upgrade for sale best offer over $45
>>> (opened, unregistered)
>
>>So, does anyone care to enlighten us whether DOS6.0 is worth upgrading to?
>>How good is it's compression, and can it be turned on/off at will?
>>Any other nice/nasty features?
>
>According to reports, if you don't have DOS yet, and don't have any
>utilities (QEMM, Stacker, PCTools, Norton, ...) then DOS6 may be worth it.
>
>For people who have DOS5, and some sort of utility, DOS6 doesn't offer
>much. You'd never know it from the usual hype that marketing is able
>to create, however. :-)
i installed dos 6 last week, and had nothing but trouble afterwards.
windows apps are hitting protection faults more than a kid can do
to a pinata, and it does not seem to like to work with NDOS (norton
dos 7.0). other probs include:
set pcplus=d:\pcplus for procomm plus no longer works.
many of the little utilities to written for dos no longer works
either. (mostly shareware)
i now have uninstalled dos 6 , and dos 5 works just fine.
are there any apps that dos 6 will be able to run that dos 5 wont?
--
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S_ense State University of New York @ Stony Brook
E_ngineer
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| 6misc.forsale |
dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1qnns0$4l3@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>>The mass of anectdotal evidence, combined with the lack of
>>a properly constructed scientific experiment disproving
>>the hypothesis, makes the MSG reaction hypothesis the
>>most likely explanation for events.
>You forgot the smiley-face.
>I can't believe this is what they turn out at Berkeley. Tell me
>you're an aberration.
>--
>Steve Dyer
>dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
HEY, KEEP YOUR FU---NG FLAMING OUT OF THIS GROUP- THAT GOES FOR YOU, MR.
DYER, AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER NASTY, SARCASTIC PEOPLE, REGARDING THIS
SUBJECT. Shoot, now I'm all riled up, too, and I was just going to ask if
we can keep our discussion about MSG a little more civil; blasting a school
or an idea through simple insults as demonstrated above is not necessary,
and otherwise out of line. If you want to continue your insult war, take
it elsewhere and stop wasting everyone else's time.
Most sincerely,
Dan Checkman
| 13sci.med |
Could someone please tell me if the 486SLC and 486SLC2 processors
IBM is putting in their Thinkpad 700's and other PC's is a REAL
486 with a math coprocessor or if it is really some Kludge that
should not be called a 486 at all?
Thanks,
Eric
--
Eric W. Braeden | "Der Verstand war zwar praechtig
Ohio State University | doch das Nuetzte am Ende nicht viel"
ebraeden@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | Peter Schilling 120 Grad 1983
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In <1993Apr21.020426.3316@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>In article <steph.735343286@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
>>But in the past, a disputed strike call has been enough reason to step
>>out of the batters box. It may not be a good idea. It may even irritate the
>>umpire. But I've seen it a lot, and I've seen it tolerated. Just not this
>>time.
>The key words here are "in the past". Everybody was warned before the
>season began that the umpires had been instructed to enforce the rule in
>the interest of speeding up the game.
When I see this happening to other players, I'll post a public apology to
Mr. Hirschbeck. Until then, I think this was a case of "selective
enforcement."
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic
"It is considered good to look wise, especially when not
overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <C5rHoC.Fty@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes:
> I remeber reading the comment that General Dynamics was tied into this, in
> connection with their proposal for an early manned landing. Sorry I don't
> rember where I heard this, but I'm fairly sure it was somewhere reputable.
> Anyone else know anything on this angle?
The General Chairman is Paul Bialla, who is some official of General
Dynamics.
The emphasis seems to be on a scaled-down, fast plan to put *people*
on the Moon in an impoverished spaceflight-funding climate. You'd
think it would be a golden opportunity to do lots of precusor work for
modest money using an agressive series of robot spacecraft, but
there's not a hint of this in the brochure.
> Hrumph. They didn't send _me_ anything :(
You're not hanging out with the Right People, apparently.
Bill Higgins, Beam Jockey | "I'm gonna keep on writing songs
Fermilab | until I write the song
Bitnet: HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET | that makes the guys in Detroit
Internet: HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV | who draw the cars
SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS | put tailfins on 'em again."
--John Prine
| 14sci.space |
[sorry for the 0 auto content, but ... ]
> That is why low-abiding citizens should have the power to protect themselves
> and their property using deadly force if necessary anywhere a threat is
> imminent.
>
> Steve Heracleous
You do have the power Steve. You *can* do it. Why don't you? Why don't you
go shoot some kids who are tossing rocks onto cars? Make sure you do a good
job though - don't miss - 'cause like they have big rocks - and take it from
me - those kids are mean.
| 7rec.autos |
>>This is a stretch. In fact, a great many of the persecuted Indians were
>>Christian, a great many. It would be simpler to state the obvious, that
>>white people wanted land the Indians dominated or threatened. I really
>>don't think the government cared a hill of beans about the Indians' religion.
>My Native American Girlfriend asks: "If the government really doesn't
>'care a hill of beans' about our religion, how come they're still
>busting us for it in Oregon, Washington, and a few other places?
>You'd be a Christian, too, if the U.S. Army marched you into church
>at gunpoint."
Are you saying that the Indians who became Christians did so because the
US Army marched them into church at gunpoint?
This will be news to the Indians of the Great Lakes and upper Mississippi
basin-- of the Southwest-- of Mexico and South America-- who converted even
before there was such a thing as the US. Are you saying that Indians are
incapable of coming to a decision themselves about their religion without
being forced to at gunpoint? What about the Christian Cherokees who were
given the boot by the US government after the Civil War... because the
Cherokee nation gave mild support to the Confederacy, since they themselves
owned black slaves. No, reducing it all to a matter of religion is to
support a much too narrow view of history.
I've never heard of a single treaty, whether broken by the US government or
not (were any NOT????), that said, if you guys convert to Christianity, you
get to keep all the land you claim. No, treaties were invariably about land...
it meant ceding Indian claims to the government. Sometimes in return the
US government promised the hunter-gatherer tribes (and plenty of tribes were
already farming for centuries, but we don't hear about non-Plains Indians
in movies) food and training in return for taking up a non-nomadic existence.
Promises, of course, which all to often proved empty.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <93087.011308PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu> PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu (Paula Ford) writes:
>A friend of mine was a regular volunteer blood donor. During surgery, he
>was given five units of blood, and after a suitable recovery time, he went
>to donate blood at a "bloodmobile." He was HIV+, and did not know it.
>
>The Red Cross notified him with a _registered letter_. That's all. No
>counselling, no nothing. He died two years ago, this week. He left behind
How long ago was this? When I said you'd get counselling, I meant if
you did it now. Long ago, practices varied and agencies had to gear
up to provide the counselling.
>a wife and a four-year-old son. Many people have suggested that his wife
>should sue the Red Cross, but she would not. She says that without the
>blood transfusions he would have died during the surgery.
>
Good for her. What we don't need is everyone suing community service
agencies that provide blood that people need. Testing is not fool proof.
The fact that he got AIDS from a transfusion (if he really did) does
not mean the Red Cross screwed up. Prior to 1983 or so, there wasn't
a good test and a lot of bad blood got through. This wasn't the fault
of the Red Cross. When did he get the transfusions?
--
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| 13sci.med |
Wow, this guy seems to be out to prove something to his old team, Boston.
Which Sweeney you ask...well, of course Bob Sweeney, the one that Boston
let Buffalo get a hold of (they still have 2 Sweeneys which makes things
slightly confusing). Game winner in OT in game 1, and another
BIG goal (seconds after Fuhr made 3 point blank saves -> this is why
Grant has 5 rings!!!) to put Buffalo ahead in the 3rd. Yes, Neely countered
a minute later, but hadn't this course of Buffalo going ahead after being
tied and shutting down another few great scoring opportunities, I
think Boston would have notched their first win of the series.
Well, the Sabres haven't made it to the end of this series yet, but
I certainly feel they've got Boston right were they want them...actually,
they've got them in a position that neither Buffalo nor Boston felt
that would come about. One more astronomical game by Fuhr, a few more
heroics by the rest of the team (this is a team sport afterall) and I
think Borque, Neely, Jouneau (sp?), and Company are gonna be swinging
a new stick (Weather is perfect for golf season) real soon. I'm not
gonna waiger anything on this, because I've seen some really strange
things happen in both pro and college hockey.
Talking about golf...was that a hockey swing, golf swing or baseball
swing that Hawerchuck used in the last shot of the game that Khmylev
deflected in for the BIG ONE? The whole OT (all 1 minute of it!) was a
tesiment to Buffalo's ability to really be persistent and grind it out
in the end (something they weren't necessarily in the regular season). The
Sabres pushed hard and forced Borque to blatently take down Bodger in
the opening seconds. I don't normally like penalties being called in
such ultra-critical points, but this was BLATENT. Finally, the Sabres
won a faceoff (they weren't that hot in this dept the rest of the game)
when LaFontaine scooped at the puck 3 times. When Hawerchuck took his
shot (quite a boomer, but Blue stopped this one) he took a few steps
over to get his own rebound and slapped at it again, without setting
it up. I didn't realize it went in until the announcer started screaming,
"They score, THEY SCORE!!!". The best was seeing LaFontaine jumping
up and down, skating a little bit, jumping some more, and then skating
over to Brad May who he jumped on.
Doug McKee
mckee@cs.buffalo.edu
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1r15rvINNh8p@ctron-news.ctron.com> king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
>adpeters@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu (Andy Peters) writes:
>>Bill Rawlins writes:
>>> Macroevolution is
>>> a mixture of 15 percent science and 85 percent religion [guaranteed
>>> within three percent error :) ]
>
>>Bullshit. This is true only under your ad hoc assertion that only
>>religion can explain origins. The history of life through
>>macroevolution is a falsifiable theory. If you think it's not, then
>>make some substantial argument against it.
>
>"The modern theory of evolution is so inadequate that it deserves to be
>treated as a matter of faith." -- Francis Hitching
Jack: you seem to have missed a word in my comments above. I
requested a _substantial_ argument. What you have given is an appeal
to authority, out of context, with nothing of substance to back it up.
>Jack
--
--Andy
"God is a real estate developer / with offices around the nation
They say one day he'll liquidate / his holdings on High
I say it's all speculation." -- Michelle Shocked
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Article #61214 (61317 is last):
>Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: arnolm2@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Richard Arnold)
Subject: DX50 vs DX266
Date: Wed Apr 21 19:55:12 1993
Would someone be willing to explain to me the 486DX 50MHz is not more
popular than it is? I would think it would be just as fast, if not
faster than the 486DX 66MHz for certian applications. Plus, a 50MHz
motherboard would seem better if you had any plans on upgrading the
chip in the future. I must be missing something, since everyone is
buying the DX2 66... Many adds don't even mention the DX 50.
Thanks a lot,
-Matt
End of File, Press RETURN to quit
Yes its realy simple, no one makes a mother board that runs the
bus at more than 33MHZ....Sam
--
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Don't copy that floppy..BURN IT...I just love Windows...CRASH...
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
The best auto-shifters on the street (AND NOT THE TRACK) are those from
Porsche... they wont change if you floor the gas during a turn.... a few
years back a was in a 200SX auto (you guys call it a 240SX [without turbo])
and was going round a corner.... I floored it and next thing I know I was
pointing backwards! The other drivers seemed quite amused ;-)
....Shaz....
| 7rec.autos |
In article <CONRADIE.49.735390036@firga.sun.ac.za> CONRADIE@firga.sun.ac.za (Gerrit Conradie) writes:
[Much discussion about economics of safety deleted]
>Safety is an important criterium for me when buying a car. I won't buy a
>small car like a Civic or whatever.
>
>Great = Safety + Handling + Speed - for me
>
>Seems to me that you would be more "dead" in a small car than a large car
>after an accident.
This is a very simplistic view of safety. Assuming that you are in a collision
(less likely with a more agile smaller car), then the important factor
is how well does the car sacrifice itself to save you. This is why a thousand
pound F1 car can hit a wall at 200 and the driver walks out and why
everybody dies when a Suburban hits a wall at 35 (as I recall for the last
generation Suburban HIC numbers).
As an aside, just what is the point of an airbag? It seems to me that
seatbelts with pretensioners (Audi et al), or a good tight 5 point belt
will prevent you every moving far enough to hit the airbag. You might be
saved from some flyign glass? Or is an airbag just a lowest common denominator
safety device that is of some use in a head on collision when you are
wearing no seat belt?
Craig
>
>- gerrit
>
| 7rec.autos |
Hello,
Can anyone out there tell me if it is possible to put ordinary standard
SIMM RAM chips (70 ns) in a COMPAQ PROLINEA 4/50 or do COMPAQ require
special COMPAQ RAM chips.
Please (also) email me.
Thanks in advance.
Jesper
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jesper honig spring, spring@diku.dk | IF ANIMALS BELIEVED IN GOD
university of copenhagen, denmark | THE DEVIL WOULD BE A MAN
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr19.231641.21652@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
(Deletion)
>"(God is) the One Who created the night, the day, the sun and the moon.
>Each is travelling in an orbit with its own motion." (Qur'an :33)
>
>The positive aspect of this verse noted by Dr. Maurice Bucaille is that
>while geocentrism was the commonly accepted notion at the time (and for
>a long time afterwards), there is no notion of geocentrism in this verse
>(or anywhere in the Qur'an).
>
Well, that is certainly different, but it looks as if there is a translation
found for everything. By the way, I am most surprised to hear that night and
day move in an orbit.
And that the sun travels in an orbit without saying that earth does, too,
sounds geocentric to me.
Benedikt
| 0alt.atheism |
ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate) writes:
> I am curious about knowing which commericial cars today
>have v engines.
>V4 - I don't know of any.
>V6 - Legend, MR3? MR6?
>V8 - Don't know of any.
>V12 - Jaguar XJS
> Please add to the list.
> Thanks,
> -S
> ssave@ole.cdac.com
The Viper isn't an Inline 10 or Flat 10, is it? I'm pretty sure its
a V-10. Also, the Cizeta??? is a V-16, but it may not yet be more than a
dream...
--
Chintan Amin <The University of Illinois UrbanaChampaign> mail: llama@uiuc.edu
*******SIG UNDER CONSTRUCTION HARD HAT AREA********
| 7rec.autos |
In article <C5JC3z.KnD@news.udel.edu>, philly@ravel.udel.edu (Robert C
Hite) wrote:
> WIP took two of your
> best sports jockeys too, Jody MacDonald and Steve Fredericks.
DUDE! Are you nuts? WFAN is second to none. Jody Mac's exit was quite a
loss, but if you think Fredericks On The FAN was much of one, you're pretty
skewed.
Ñ Sean
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <C52EGz.27t3@austin.ibm.com> $LOGIN@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>Does anyone out there have the toll-free (catalog request and order line) for
>Heathkit/Zenith? Please post the number if you've got it! Thanks.
----------------------------------------------------
1-800-253-0570
| 12sci.electronics |
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