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In article <sandvik-150493175038@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>In article <1qk73q$3fj@agate.berkeley.edu>, dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dennis
[on my posting of two form letters regarding private insurance and
abortion coverage]
>I just hope you realize that each individual should make their
>own judgement, and posting pre-filled letters sounds like you
>don't trust your fellow Americans to utter their own opinion,
>just your own.
>
>Cheers,
>Kent
Kent,
Have you ever been part of any activist group or campaign, from
Amnesty International, Green Peace, etc onward? Making out form
letters and handing out copies to others to send is common among
all of these groups.
You may not like what I have done, but it is hardly unique.
Additionally, I certainly wouldn't mind if people wrote their own
letters. I offered a template to work from (IF PEOPLE SO CHOOSE).
If not, that is fine too. Again, what I have done is make use of a
approach as old as this country itself.
dennis
dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu
| 19talk.religion.misc |
From article <1993Apr18.001319.2340@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, by jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu:
> Yea, there are millions of cases where yoy *say* that firearms
> 'deter' criminals. Alas, this is not provable. I think that that
> there are actually *few* cases where this is so.
It certainly is provable. Around a million Americans every year defend
themselves with firearms. In many of these cases the defender doesn't even
have to fire a shot! The mere presence of a gun is oftentimes all the
deterrent that is needed.
I don't like violence anymore than anyone else does. But, taking away the
right of Americans to keep and bear arms is not the solution to the violent
crime problem in this country. If honest, law-abiding citizens are unable
to get firearms then they will be preyed on even more by criminals who will
be able to acquire guns through illegal channels. Expect to start seeing
the crime syndicates who smuggle drugs into this country start smuggling
guns. Believe me this will happen. There is *plenty* of economic
incentive for gangsters to illegaly import guns into this country if guns
should be banned by the Klintonistas.
> The bulk of firarems are used against unworthy and unnesessary
> opponents ... those who posessa a cool jakcet you want, those who
> would argue with you about a parking space, those who would
> take your woman. In short, trivial and worthless causes.
Statistics, por favor?
> Too much of this has ruined you cause. There is no recovery.
> In the near future, federal martials will come for your arms.
> No one will help you. You are more dangerous, to their thinking,
> than the 'criminal'. This is your own fault.
See my previous post. That ought to set you straight.
> The 2nd amendment is dead. Accept this. Find another way.
People have the right to keep and bear arms no matter what the
Constitution says. That means that even if the 2nd Amendment is
repealed the *people* (that's all American citizens FYI) will *still*
have the right to keep and bear arms.
Scott Kennedy, Brewer and Patriot
Before: "David Koresh is a cheap thug who interprets
the Bible through the barrel of a gun..." --ATF spokesman
After: "[The ATF] is a cheap thug who interprets
[the Constitution] through the barrel of a gun..." --Me
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Does anyone know what the standard port addresses are for COM ports 5
through 8? (If there is a standard of any sort!)
Please e-mail, as I don't read this group very often.
- Mark Tomlinson
(mark@garden.equinox.gen.nz)
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr26.002631.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>,
mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu wrote:
>
>[...] Therefore, there is a point
> in time when even though my front wheel is turned to the right
> I must be going straight ahead (the point when I go from the right
> turn to the left). [...]
What you are trying to describe is that transition point where
the front wheel actually reverses direction; turns backwards.
====================================================
John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona
All standard disclaimers apply.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <9500@blue.cis.pitt.edu> traven@pitt.edu (Neal Traven) writes:
>BTW, have we had a show of hands about who will be attending this year's
>SABR National in San Diego? I'll be there...
As will I, and the Ultimate Lurker.
Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <Apr.20.03.01.19.1993.3755@geneva.rutgers.edu> REXLEX@fnal.fnal.gov writes:
>
>2) If you haven't accepted Jesus are your Savior, you're taking an awful
>chance. As I say to the Jehovah Witnesses (who no longer frequent my door), if
>you are right and I am wrong, then I will have lived a good life and will die
>and cease to exist, but if I am right and you are wrong, then you will die and
>suffer eternal damnation. I don't mean to make fun at this point, but its like
>Dirty Harry said, "You've got to ask yourself, 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do
>you?" "A man's got to know his limitations." Don't be one of the "whosoever
>wont's."
This is a ridiculous argument for being a Christian. So then, you might
consider switching from Christianity to another religion if you were
offered an even more frightening description of another hell? How many
Christians do think there are who view it strictly as an insurance policy?
Not many I know; they believe in a message of love and compassion for
others. A faith based on fear of hell sounds like a dysfunctional
relationship with God. Like a child who cringes in fear of a parent's
physical violence.
Many religions have concrete views of heaven and hell, with various
threats and persuasions regarding who will go where. Competition over
who can envison the worst hell can hardly nurture the idea of loving
your neighbor as yourself.
>--Rex
--
comments, criticism welcome...
-Ken
alvin@ucsu.colorado.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article 735307970@vela.acs.oakland.edu, ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes:
>gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine) writes:
>
>>In article 735249453@vela.acs.oakland.edu, ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes:
>
>>>I also think that they will have a hard time with Pittsburgh if they
>>>face them in the finals (which is what all the Detroit sportswriters
>>>are predicting). Although I think Bryan Murray is probably the best GM
>>>I have ever seen in hockey
>
>>How do you figure that?? When Bryan Murray took over the Wings they were
>>a pretty good team that was contending for the Stanley Cup but looked
>>unlikely to win it. Now they are a pretty good team that is contending for
>>the Stanley Cup but looks unlikely to win it. A truly great GM would
>>have been able to make the moves to push the team to the upper echelon
>>of the NHL and maybe win the Stanley Cup. A good GM (like Murray) can
>>maintain the team's success but can't push them to the next level.
>
>When Jacques Demers brought the Wings to the conference finals twice a
>few years back, he had everyone on the team giving 100 percent, but he
>had very little talent. He had Yzerman, Bob Probert (who had drinking
>problems at the time), and a couple of decent goaltenders in Hanlon and
>Stefan who got hot. That's about it. Can you name one player on those
>earlier teams who even deserved to be in the all-star game, much less
>actually got there, other than Yzerman and Probert? Like, Petr Klima?
>Give me a break! When they faced Edmonton in both of those conference
>finals, as hard as they played, it was clear they faced a team that simply
>had superior talent to the Wings. That's why they could not get to the
>finals. Also, at that time the Norris division was still the weakest
>division in hockey, and getting past Chicago, and Toronto was not as
>impressive as it is today.
>
>Murray has brought scoring talent to the Wings that they did not have a
>few years ago when Devellano was GM and Demers was coach. To name a few,
>Ysebaert, Kozlov, and Paul Coffey (who has made a definite positive impact on
>the power play especially).
>Murray has built one of the most talented teams in hockey at the present, with
>the possible exception of the Pittsburgh Penguins. The Wings have at least
>five 30 goal scorers that I can think of, and a couple of defenseman with over
>100 games worth of playoff experience. Murray's one failing is that unlike
>the other GM's you mentioned (who are definitely also good, don't get me
>wrong), he has not found for himself a strong coach to motivate the team to
>go out and give 100 percent for the full 60 minutes every night like they
>did the last time they made a cup run. When a team wins or loses, it's a
>reflection of the GM *and* the coach, which was the point of my original
>post. If the team outmatches their opponent in terms of talent but loses
>anyway (which has been the case this year when the Wings have struggled),
>that indicates that the GM has done his job in building up the team but the
>coach has failed to motivate them. If, as in the case of the last run the
>Wings made in the playoffs before Murray came, they gave opponents a hard
>time who should have beaten them easily, that indicates good coaching making
>up for a lack of talent.
All of this is fine. I never said that Murray was a bad GM. I merely said
that he isn't the best GM in hockey- or even a contender for that honor.
If Murray is as great as you claim- the Wings would have won the Stanley Cup
by now- probably more than once. If he was as great a GM as you claim
and he was as poor a coach as you claim- he would have been intelligent
enough to hire the coach to push the team to the next level of success.
But Murray is an average (unspectacular) NHL coach and a pretty good GM
so none of this is true anyway.
Gregmeister
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
scharle@lukasiewicz.cc.nd.edu (scharle) writes:
> For your information, I checked the Library of Congress catalog,
>and they list the following books by Francis Hitching:
I believe I've just discovered an anthopological parallel. In my many
"discussions" with the fundies, their main tactic is to discredit
my sources. They shrilly bleat:
"Barclay's claims are bogus; McKenzie's arguements are a sham,
Oehler position is specious, Jouon's ideas are fiction, Darby is a
fraud, Howard is a counterfeit, Rotherham's claims are vapid."
Ahha...Now with the Branch Athiests zealots we have the following:
"Hitching`s claims are bogus, Gorman argument's are a sham,
Jastrow's position is specious, Stanley's ideas are fiction, Durant
is a fraud, Thorpe is a counterfeit, Hoyle's claims are vapid."
Are we witnessing the founding of a new major religion.... or has
it really been there all along?!
Let me try again.
"The doubt that has infiltrated the previous, smugly confident certitude
of evolutionary biology has inflamed passions. There is lack of agreement
even within warring camps. Sometimes it seems as if there are as many
variations on each evolutionary theme as there are individual biologists."
Niles Eldridge (yes he's a paleontologist); Natural History; "Evolutionary
Housecleaning"; Feb 1982; pg. 78.
Jack
| 0alt.atheism |
In a previous message aa888@freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Baker) writes:
>If I don't think my belief is right and everyone else's belief is wrong,
>then I don't have a belief. This is simply what belief means.
[More stuff deleted]
This seems to be a pretty arogant definition of belief. My beliefs
are those things which I find to be true based on my experience of the
world. This experience includes study of things that I may not have
experienced directly. But even then, I can only understand the
studies to the extent to which I can relate what I study back to what
I have experienced.
Which means that by beliefs about God are directly related to my
experience of God. Having experienced God, I try to make sense of
that experience. I study religion and read the Bible. I find things
that echo what I have already experienced. Out of this I build my
beliefs. I also find things that don't match my experience. That
doesn't make them false. They just don't match my experience. Maybe
I will understand that stuff later. I don't know. Maybe all of my
beliefs are wrong. I can change my beliefs.
If someone else has beliefs that are different from mine, so what.
Neither of us are necessarily wrong. Someone else is making sense out
of a different set of experiences. Even though we have different
explanations and beliefs, if we talk we might even discover that the
underlying experiences are similar.
Some people approach religion as a truth that can only exist in one
form, and usually has a single revelation. The more dogmatic and
inflexible the belief system, the more arrogant it will appear to an
outsider. There is another approach possible, however. God is a
mystery. I am trying to solve the mystery, so I look at the evidence
available to me. I try to arrive at the best understanding that I can
based on the evidence. New evidence may cause me to change my
understanding. When I encounter someone with a different belief than
my own, it isn't a threat, it is an opportunity to perhaps discover
something new about this mystery I can never fully comprehend.
Peace
Will Taber
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1osu69INN11r@tamsun.tamu.edu>, mclean@math.tamu.edu (Robert
Mclean) wrote:
>
> My MacPlus is having problems which seem temperature related. After using
> it for a while it freezes. The when I turn off then on, the screen doesn't
> show the disk icon, and then goes dark. I consulted Larry Pina's Book and
> could not find these symptoms. Has anybody else seen such symptoms?
> Suggestions?
Shure it is temperature dependent, but this does not clean all your
problems.
Based on some exp. I must say that the connections between the power supply
and the Monitor and Main Board are usable to this failure, Ram simms can be
badly connected due to some corrosion and the powersupply can be in the
last
phase (lower Voltage).
So you can do following if you are used to such technical terms.
1) Clean all mentioned contacts with contact spray
2) readjust the 5 Volt level of your powersupply
3) use a calm fan and think of preventing dust blowinÔ through the floppy!
(a fixed piece of paper can prevent this)
if you don't know how to do it beg a friendly technician!
Christian Bauer
bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
I read somewhere that Kurt Goedel argued that the ontological argument
for God's existence was logically reasonable (or something to that
effect).
Does anyone know if this is true, and have a citation?
Thanks.
--
-Fred Gilham gilham@csl.sri.com
"Peace is only better than war when it's not hell too. War being hell
makes sense."
-Walker Percy, THE SECOND COMING
| 15soc.religion.christian |
eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com (Eric Vitiello) writes:
>TO: rych@festival.ed.ac.uk (R Hawkes)
>RH>I've noticed that if you only save a model (with all your mapping planes
>RH>positioned carefully) to a .3DS file that when you reload it after restarting
>RH>3DS, they are given a default position and orientation. But if you save
>RH>to a .PRJ file their positions/orientation are preserved. Does anyone
>RH>know why this information is not stored in the .3DS file? Nothing is
> This is because the PRJ (Project) format saves all of your settings,
> right down to the last render file's name.
>RH>I'd like to be able to read the texture rule information, does anyone have
>RH>the format for the .PRJ file?
> Sorry... Don't have anything on that or the CEL format.
Well, I dived in feet first and reverse engineered the .PRJ file as much
as I needed to - extracted the mapping icon information - which is
when it dawned on me that 3D Studio is useless for my needs. I need
a mapping icon per applied texture. I want to use a special purpose
graphics computer for rendering the 3DS models and it requires a texture
rule/plane to be specified in 3Space, i.e. position/orientation of the
mapping rule. Since only one mapping icon is used in 3DS to apply
textures to ALL objects/faces, it renders (no pun intended) 3DS totally
unsuitable for my needs.
Anyone got a contact for Alias Upfront or any other good modeller for a
PC? I must be able to specify texture rules (one per texture) and this
must be saved in a file which I can read. I haven't found any info on Alias
in the copy of the faq that I have.
Rych
| 1comp.graphics |
Here are the final stats for the CHL for the 1992-1993 season.
Central Hockey League
5840 S. Memorial Drive
Suite 205
Tulsa, OK 74145
Phone: (918) 664-8881
Fax: (918) 664-2215
Founder and President - Ray Miron
Commissioner - Monte Miron
Marketing Director - Jim Goodman
Information Director - Eric Kolb
Each team is owned by the league, with local intrests controlling day to
day operations. Working agreements and NHL affiliations are up to each
team.
Each team has a $100,000 salary cap for 17 total players
(16 dress up).
Each team is limited to 11 visas, meaning at least 6 players must be
Americans (Ignore this rule if you are Tulsa, they only had 2 Americans
on the roster during the playoffs).
Teams play in Wichita, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Fort Worth, and Dallas.
Future expansion plans include Houston, San Antonio, Baton Rouge, Little Rock,
El Paso, Albuquerque, Tuscon, and Amarillo. Austin is a possibility if Dallas
has to move. Houston and San Antonio are in for this fall, with Baton Rouge
and Little Rock likely for 94-95.
TEAMS:
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Fort Worth Fire | Wichita Thunder
|
Arena: Tarrant Co. Conv. Cen. (11,342) | Kansas Coliseum (9,686)
Colors: Red and Black | Blue , silver, and black
GM: George Branum | Bill Shuck
Coach: Pete Mahavolich | Doug Sheddan
Phone #: (817) 335-FIRE | (316) 264-4625
Season Tix: $300 / $240 | $250 / $170
Single Tix: $12 / $10 | $9 / $6
Radio: |
Announcers: |
|
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Dallas Freeze | Tulsa Oilers
|
Arena: Fair Park Coliseum (7,500) | Civic Center (6,847)
Colors: Teal and Black | Orange and Blue
GM: Tom Koch | Jeff D. Lund
Coach: Ron Flockhart | Gary Unger Personal Guardians
Phone #: (214) 421-PUCK | (918) 663-5888 ------------------
Season Tix: $300 / $240 | Ray and Monte
Single Tix: $12 / $10 / $7 | $9 / $6 Miron
Radio: KSKY-AM 660 | KTRT-AM 1270
Announcers-Bruce LeVine | Jeff Brucculeri
Mark Stone | Jeff Bowen
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Memphis River Kings | Oklahoma City Blazers
|
Arena: Mid-South Coliseum (9,384) | Myriad (13,399) & State Fair Arena
Colors: Gold and Black | Red, Yellow, and Black (9,760)
GM: Jim Riggs | Brad Lund
Coach: Steve Carlson | Mike McEwen
Phone #: (901) 278-9009 | (405) 235-PUCK
Season Tix: | $250 / $170
Single Tix: $9 / $6 | $9 / $6
Radio: KREC-AM 600 | WWLS-AM 640
Announcers-Dave Woloshin | John Brooks
Tom Stocker | Brian Barnhart
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92-93 regular season standings
W L OTL PTS GF GA PIM AVG ATTDNCE (% cap)
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Oklahoma City Blazers.... 39 18 3 81 291 232 1561 7,827 64.2 %
Tulsa Ice Oilers......... 35 22 3 73 270 230 1430 5,547 81.0 %
Dallas Freeze............ 31 25 4 66 276 242 1604 4,427 59.0 %
Memphis RiverKings....... 26 27 7 59 253 272 1670 5,590 59.6 %
Fort Worth Fire.......... 24 29 7 55 252 288 1747 4,920 43.7 %
Wichita Thunder.......... 25 33 2 52 242 320 1876 4,474 46.2 %
Playoffs: Tulsa defeated Dallas, 4 games to 3 (WLLWWLW)
Oklahoma City defeated Memphis, 4 games to 2 (WWLLWW)
Levin Trophy Finals: Tulsa defeated Oklahoma City, 4 games to 1 (WWLWW)
Playoff MVP: Tony Fiore, Tulsa (special votes to Ray and Monte Miron)
Team vs. Team: 92-93
--------------------
Dallas Fort Worth Memphis Oklahoma City Tulsa Wichita
Dallas.......... ----- 9-2-1 5-5-2 5-6-1 5-7-0 7-5-0
Fort Worth...... 3-7-2 ----- 4-6-2 4-8-0 8-3-1 5-5-2
Memphis......... 7-4-1 8-3-1 ----- 2-8-2 2-8-2 7-4-1
Oklahoma City... 7-4-1 8-3-1 10-2-0 ----- 6-6-0 8-3-1
Tulsa........... 7-5-0 4-7-1 10-2-0 6-6-0 ----- 8-2-2
Wichita......... 5-7-0 7-3-2 5-7-0 4-8-0 4-8-0 -----
Power Play Statistics Penalty Killng Statistics
PPG Opp ShGA Pct. PPG Saves Opp ShG Pct.
Okla. City 70 275 2 25.45 Okla. City 58 241 299 16 80.60
Tulsa 72 291 12 24.74 Dallas 68 278 346 14 80.34
Dallas 64 286 10 22.37 Tulsa 77 276 353 16 78.18
Fort Worth 85 387 16 21.96 Wichita 75 235 310 5 75.806
Wichita 81 396 24 20.45 Memphis 83 260 343 12 75.801
Memphis 65 329 12 19.75 Fort Worth 76 237 313 13 75.71
Penalty Record
10-Min Game Gross Oppn
PIM Avg. Minor Major Bench Misc Misc Misc Match PIM
Wichita 1876 31.3 433 84 20 22 24 0 3 1998
Fort Worth 1747 29.1 471 59 29 26 23 2 0 1911
Memphis 1670 27.8 480 56 28 28 13 1 1 1593
Dallas 1604 26.7 477 60 2 20 15 0 0 1534
Okla. City 1561 26.0 438 67 14 14 21 0 0 1609
Tulsa 1430 23.8 505 26 6 21 8 0 0 1243
Scoring By Period
1st Period 2nd Period 3rd Period Overtime Shootout Totals
GF GA GF GA GF GA GF GA GF GA GF GA
Dallas 76 82 106 82 90 74 0 1 4 3 276 242
Fort Worth 70 81 92 112 84 88 3 5 3 2 252 288
Memphis 66 88 101 89 82 88 2 3 2 4 253 272
Okla.City 98 87 82 71 108 71 1 1 2 2 291 232
Tulsa 99 58 92 83 76 86 3 1 0 2 270 230
Wichita 79 92 73 109 84 117 2 0 4 2 242 320
92-93 All-Star Team
-------------------
Position First Team Second Team
-------- ---------- -----------
Goaltender... Tony Martino, Tulsa Robert Desjardins, Wichita (tie)
Alan Perry, Oklahoma City (tie)
Defensemen... Dave Doucette, Dallas Mike Berger, Dallas
Guy Girouard, Oklahoma City Tom Karalis, Tulsa
Center....... Carl Boudreau, Oklahoma City Joe Burton, Oklahoma City
Left Wing.... Sylvain Fleury, Oklahoma City Doug Lawrence, Tulsa
Right Wing... Daniel Larin, Oklahoma City Tom Mutch, Memphis (tie
Sylvain Naud, Tulsa (tie)
Regular Season MVP: Sylvain Fleury, Oklahoma City
Rookie of the Year: Bobby Desjardins, Wichita
Leading Defenseman: Dave Doucette, Dallas
Leading Goaltender: Tony Martino, Tulsa
Scoring Leaders:
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POINTS Team GP G A PTS GOALS Team GP G
Fleury, Sylvain OKC 59 48 53 101 Fleury, Sylvain OKC 53 48
Lawrence, Doug TUL 57 22 73 95 Larin, Daniel OKC 48 43
Naud, Sylvain TUL 58 39 48 87 Mutch, Tom MEM 59 43
Mutch, Tom MEM 59 43 38 81 Thibodeau, Ken MEM 54 40
Hall, Taylor TUL 58 35 45 80 Naud, Sylvain TUL 58 39
Thibodeau, Ken MEM 54 40 35 75 Taylor, Jason DAL 60 38
Anchikoski, Wayne DAL 57 35 37 72
Boudreau, Carl OKC 48 27 44 71 ASSISTS Team GP A
Larin, Daniel OKC 48 43 27 70 Lawrence, Doug TUL 57 73
Taylor, Jason DAL 60 38 32 70 Fleury, Sylvain OKC 59 53
Dent, Ted WCH 60 25 44 69 Naud, Sylvain TUL 58 48
Sanderson, Mike FTW 60 37 31 68 Doucette, Dave DAL 50 46
Gatti, Dave WCH 58 35 32 67 Hall, Taylor TUL 58 45
Nobili, Mario TUL 54 31 34 65 Girouard, Guy OKC 60 45
Cyr, Keith WCH 58 21 44 65
D'Amario, Peter MEM 60 28 35 63 PENALTY MINUTES Team GP PIM
Johnston, Scot MEM 51 23 40 63 Aubrey, Ron FTW 28 237
Burton, Joe OKC 55 35 26 61 Karalis, Tom TUL 56 235
Simoni, Steve OKC 56 33 28 61 Johnson, Craig OKC 50 219
Hornak, Ernest FTW 52 22 37 59 Neish, Greg WCH 34 212
Fiore, Tony TUL 37 23 35 58 Batten, John MEM 29 210
Doucette, Dave DAL 50 10 46 56 Taylor, Jason DAL 60 210
LEADING GOALTENDERS (20 or more games)
TEAM GPI MIN GAA W-L-OTL EN SO GA Saves Save Pct.
Martino, Tony TUL 39 2182 3.66 23-13-2 0 2 133 1186 .899
Perry, Alan OKC 40 2406 3.72 25-13-2 3 0 149 1304 .897
Zanier, Mike DAL 40 2384 3.78 24-14-2 3 1 150 1223 .891
Mindjimba, Antoine MEM 56 3097 4.15 26-21-6 4 1 214 1603 .882
Smith, Greg DAL 21 1243 4.15 7-11-2 0 0 86 753 .897
Desjardins, Bobby WCH 52 2849 4.63 21-26-2 6 1 220 1877 .895
Belley, Roch FTW 33 1728 4.75 14-13-2 3 0 141 974 .874
Other Goalies
TEAM GPI MIN GAA W-L-OTL EN SO GA Saves Save Pct.
Flatt, Brian TUL 11 488 3.44 4-3-1 1 1 28 274 .907
Krake, Paul OKC 17 1029 3.50 13-3-1 0 0 60 583 .907
Loewen, Jamie TUL 13 681 3.79 6-5-0 1 0 43 399 .903
Ocello, Matt FTW 4 179 3.69 3-1-0 1 0 11 100 .901
Ocello, Matt TUL 1 34 5.29 0-0-0 0 0 3 13 .813
(Totals) 5 213 3.94 3-1-0 1 0 14 113 .890
Raymond, Eric TUL 3 181 3.98 2-1-0 0 0 12 87 .879
O'Hara, Michael FTW 18 911 4.28 6-6-2 0 0 65 559 .896
Vasko, Steve MEM 15 535 5.16 0-6-1 4 0 46 235 .836
Trentadue, Rocco FTW 17 746 4.99 1-9-3 3 0 62 365 .855
Trentadue, Rocco OKC 2 120 6.50 0-2-0 0 0 13 93 .877
(Totals) 19 866 5.20 1-11-3 3 0 75 458 .859
Harvey, Alain WCH 5 240 5.50 2-2-0 2 0 22 126 .851
Gosselin, Yannick WCH 10 345 6.43 2-3-0 0 0 37 227 .860
Gosselin, Yannick OKC 1 60 5.00 1-0-0 0 0 5 26 .839
(Totals) 11 405 6.22 3-3-0 0 0 42 253 .896
Caton, Murray WCH 2 120 9.00 0-2-0 0 0 18 84 .824
McDonnell, Dan TUL 1 34 8.83 0-0-0 0 0 5 24 .828
Sauer, E.J. TUL 1 12 10.00 0-0-0 0 0 2 4 .667
Clark, Joel WCH 2 48 10.00 0-0-0 0 0 8 29 .784
Wachter, Steve WCH 2 24 12.50 0-0-0 0 0 5 6 .545
Marc Dee Foster, r.s.h contact for the CHL
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1483500354@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
Final Solution for the Gaza ghetto ?
------------------------------------
While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto, they
repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto and
attempt to starve the Gazans.
[...]
Elias should the families of the children who were stabbed in their
high school by a Palestinian "freedom fighter" be the ones who offer
their help to the Gazans. Perhaps it should be the families of the 18
Israelis who were murdered last month by Palestinian "freedom
fighters".
The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto were fighting to keep themselves and
their families from being sent to Nazi gas chambers. Groups like Hamas
and the Islamic Jihad fight with the expressed purpose of driving all
Jews into the sea. Perhaps, we should persuade Jewish people to help
these wnderful "freedom fighters" attain this ultimate goal.
Maybe the "freedom fighters" will choose to spare the co-operative Jews.
Is that what you are counting on, Elias - the pity of murderers.
You say your mother was Jewish. How ashamed she must be of her son. I
am sorry, Mrs. Davidsson.
Harry.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr23.170101.19708@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes:
So Rick, why not read the Bible for yourself? It is written in plain
english. Decide for yourself.
It? That would imply the singular, yet there are many _translations_
of the Bible, many of which differ in choice of wording and hence can
lead to different _interpretations_. BTW have you also read the
Koran, Vedas ... etc., plain English translations are available.
Decide for yourself.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1qk0k4$itg@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> cubrj@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Brian Johnson) writes:
>Well now that the hawks have won the division the road is a little
>easier for the playoffs. Let toronto and detroit beat the hell out of
>each other while Chicago sweeps st.louis. That just makes it easier in
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>brian
>
Don't be so sure, the Blues played the Hawks pretty well this season,
and won twice at the Stadium. The Blues will give the Hawks a hard time.
This series is one of the best first round matchups, could go either way.
The Hawks will probably prevail in seven games.
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| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Sorry but I forgot this ps.
Right now my sight is getting news about two weeks behind so it's
kind of necessary (to me) that any responses be sent to me directly.
Thanks a lot
Jennise
jennise@dgi.com
| 14sci.space |
In article <1r1t1a$njq@europa.eng.gtefsd.com> draper@gnd1.wtp.gtefsd.com writes:
:I recently attended an allery seminar. Steroid Nasal sprays were
:discussed. Afterward on a one-on-one basis, I asked the speaker what if
:none of the Vancanese, Beconase, Nasalide, Nasalcort, or Nasalchrom work
:nor do any oral decongestants work. She replied that she saw an article on
:Vasomotor Rhinitis. That this is not an allergic reaction and that nothing
:other than the Afrin's and such would work. (Which in my case is true).
There has been some recent research on vasomotor rhinitis that shows that
ipratroprium bromide (Atrovent) inhaled nasally is an effective treatment
for many sufferers. It has been approved for this use and is available
with a nasal adaptor in Canada. In the US the FDA has yet to approve this
use of the drug, but it is available as an oral inhaler (for COPD), and
these can be adapted for intranasal use.
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
= Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh =
= General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer!" =
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| 13sci.med |
In article <C7Dy0o.5nv@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sadek@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mohamed.s.sadek) writes:
> Allow me to mention that it is indeed hounorable and indeed rightious
> to defend oneself, to fight brutal occupation, and to restore the
> freedom of oneself, or one's people. Not just in Islam but also
> in the teachings of all right minded individuals
What is so honorable about placing bombs in passenger airliners,
promising to execute Rushdie, killing 1-2 million people in the
Iran/Iraq war, murdering tourists and persecuting ethinc Christians in
Egypt, massacring Christians in Sudan, harassing Christians in and
barring Jews from Saudi Arabia? How are paranoid Muslims "righteous
in defending themsselves" in these situations? Who are they even
afraid of?
> It is always amazing yet true that those who suffer from religious
> persecution are usually the ones who practice it once they are able
> to. Your hatered to Islam is filling this net with foam.
Considering that you seem to be posting from central New Jersey, this
is an odd comment coming from you. I dare you to speak your mind in
the Middle East in any country besides Israel.
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr26.002033.22710@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>In <1993Apr25.224654.23092@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> phoenix@startide.ctr.columbia.edu (Ali Lemer) writes:
>>I'm not even going to bother to reply to your ranting post; the letter is
>>addressed to Gary Bettman, not you. He can reply as he wishes.
>
>Not so. Your post is addressed to all. I quote:
As she said, the letter is addressed to Bettman. The post (which, though
having pretty much the same content, is an entirely different entity) was
addressed to all. When she puts the letter in the mail I doubt it will
say "To: All". I figure she wanted to let people here see what was in it
since it is a topic that interests a lot of folks here. That's an entirely
different purpose than sending the letter to Bettman.
Unfortunately...
>And I guess I let you know didn't I?
>You do NOT represent a *large* body of hockey fans by any standard you care
>to use to define "large". 65 people constitutes nothing more than a tiny
>group of fanatics and is in no way representative of "a large body of hockey
>fans on the Internet" let alone of "one of the largest computer networks in
>the world."
The "largest computer networks in the world" phrase is a definition of
the Internet, not a group as a whole that she claims to represent. As
for the business of whether or not it is large, it is large compared
to say, the number of folks on r.s.h. who are sending a letter to thank
him for changing the names, at least to this point. And just for my
own curiosity I thought I'd look up the "official" definition of large
in the dictionary. It reads:
large - 1. having more than usual power, capacity, or scope.
2. exceeding most other things of like kind in quantity or size.
Now I have no idea how many letters Bettman may have gotten on the issue
or how many people may have signed them. 65 people may be up there,
thereby validating definition 2. I would also wager that the geographical
range of signatures is quite large, which would give it a large scope.
>He might be impressed by the size of the list of names.
Why would he be impressed with this unless it were "large"?
I am of course assuming that you actually agree with what you are writing
and are not simply trying to be a pain about the whole issue to hear
yourself speak.
I personally don't know whether or not I agree with the letter. I have
very mixed emotions about it. I like the names as they are, and don't
think they make it that difficult to learn the game, but there might be
a shred of validity to the change.
--
Paul W. Francisco In the shadow an angel cries...
catcher@netcom.com - Front Line Assembly
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Original to: keithley@apple.com
G'day keithley@apple.com
21 Apr 93 22:25, keithley@apple.com wrote to All:
kc> keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley), via Kralizec 3:713/602
kc> But back to the contest goals, there was a recent article in AW&ST
about a
kc> low cost (it's all relative...) manned return to the moon. A General
kc> Dynamics scheme involving a Titan IV & Shuttle to lift a Centaur upper
kc> stage, LEV, and crew capsule. The mission consists of delivering two
kc> unmanned payloads to the lunar surface, followed by a manned mission.
kc> Total cost: US was $10-$13 billion. Joint ESA(?)/NASA project was
$6-$9
kc> billion for the US share.
kc> moon for a year. Hmmm. Not really practical. Anyone got a
kc> cheaper/better way of delivering 15-20 tonnes to the lunar surface
within
kc> the decade? Anyone have a more precise guess about how much a year's
kc> supply of consumables and equipment would weigh?
Why not modify the GD plan into Zurbrin's Compact Moon Direct scheme? let
one of those early flight carry an O2 plant and make your own.
ta
Ralph
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* Origin: VULCAN'S WORLD - Sydney Australia (02) 635-1204 3:713/6
(3:713/635)
| 14sci.space |
For Sale:
1982 - 16' Hobie Cat Special, very good condition with
trailer, catbox, righting system, many extras. Boat
is currently garaged in Natick MA, 25 miles east of
Boston.
$1800. Contact rclar@ctp.com or call (617) 374-8217.
| 6misc.forsale |
ktgeiss@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:
> Lake State/Maine in finals...WHO WON? Please post.
Maine 5-4.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
For sale KFC SVGA Monitor 1024X768 .28DP Non-interlaced
14" Screen, still under warranty! $ 295.00 or best offer!
| 6misc.forsale |
I need some help in tracking down a dvi viewer for X. I have xdvi but we
have not got the X libraries and includes installed- so
i) is there a way around this, as we are trying to avoid
installing the stuff (space is at a premium).
ii)would someone be prepared to make the binaries
available. We have a HP700 and a HP382.
Thanks for any help
Michael Carley, Dept. of Mech Engineering,
TCD
| 5comp.windows.x |
Bleep! Bleep! Bleep! The Bruins lost AGAIN in O.T. I can't stand it!
Aside from frustrated ravings, I must give Buffalo credit: they are making good
on most of their scoring opportunities, and are playing great defense. Boston
players can't seem to get control of the puck anywhere near the Buffalo net
except for on rare occasions. The Buffalo defense is also doing an excellent
job clearing away rebounds. Fuhr is playing great when the big save is needed
but he's also getting plenty of help.
Boston has been playing rather well (better than would be indicated by the
series score of 3-0) but is lacking that extra drive in the earlier part of the
game. As a result, Boston keeps leaving the ice at the end of the 1st period
2 goals down. This MUST stop if Boston is to have any hope of winning a single
game (the outlook for the Bruin's advancement to the second round are quite
bleak). IMHO, the Bruins NEED to score first. If they can do that, they have
an excellent chance of winning, since they have outplayed the Sabres in the
2nd and 3rd periods.
(The scary thing is that I'll be going to grad school in Buffalo next year.
I'll never cheer for the Sabres... You can't convert me... ^:)
MTM3
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Mosscrop -- Die hard Bruins fan
Dept. of Chemistry
UMass-Lowell
mosscropm@woods.ulowell.edu
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
jbreed@doink.b23b.ingr.com (James B. Reed) writes:
>In article <C5ros0.uy@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>|> [Pluto's] atmosphere will start to freeze out around 2010, and after about
>|> 2005 increasing areas of both Pluto and Charon will be in permanent
>|> shadow that will make imaging and geochemical mapping impossible.
It's my understanding that the freezing will start to occur because of the
growing distance of Pluto and Charon from the Sun, due to it's
elliptical orbit. It is not due to shadowing effects.
>Where does the shadow come from? There's nothing close enough to block
>sunlight from hitting them. I wouldn't expect there to be anything block
>our view of them either. What am I missing?
Pluto can shadow Charon, and vice-versa.
George Krumins
--
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| George Krumins |
| gfk39017@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu |
| Pufferfish Observatory |
| 14sci.space |
email your replies to:
danj@holonet.net
| 6misc.forsale |
NO E-MAIL ADDRESS@eicn.etna.ch writes:
>Hi ... Recently I found XV for MS-DOS in a subdirectory of GNU-CC (GNUISH). I
please tell me where you where you FTP'd this from? I would like to have
a copy of it. (I would have mailed you, but your post indicates you have no mail
address...)
>
--
Wayne Michael
wdm@world.std.com
| 1comp.graphics |
Has anyone else observed this behaviour and if so, what have you
done to cure it?
One workstation in a WfW network goes deaf to any form of communication from
other workstations until it goes out on the network itself. From then on other
workstatons can interact with it until some time later when it goes deaf
again.
The workstation is set up to share its discs etc. The machine
is a 486DX/33, 8MB RAM, with Diamond Stealth video. It behaves this
way with a variety of 16 bit network adapters, including a SMC Elite.
It also behaves the same way if I use the Windows VGA driver, rather
than the Diamond drivers.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993May13.101820.21298@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>As a rough guess I would say that in 10 years Shuttle has delivered
>>to LEO about as much as Saturn V did in 4 years.
>We have to be careful to define what is payload and what is propulsion
>and spacecraft structure.
Often Shuttle lifts satellites with upper stages. Yet we still consider it
payload. Ten Saturn flights over about 4 years delivered to LEO roughly the
same as 50 shuttle flights over 10 years.
>of course Saturn lifted more than Shuttle,
>but it's cost to orbit in same year dollars was higher.
They where pretty much the same in terms of cost/pound. A resurected
Saturn would cost only $2,000 per pound (if development costs are ignored)
which is five times cheaper than Shuttle.
Allen
--
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Lady Astor: "Sir, if you were my husband I would poison your coffee!" |
| W. Churchill: "Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it." |
+----------------------33 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX-----------------------+
| 14sci.space |
Count me in for $1000.00.
Allan Lockridge
My Opinions are my own and are not for sale.
--
Allan Lockridge -- Allanl
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Regarding the post for information about the Mac Portable and the
Powerbook 100, here are a couple of the answers:
(1) Does the Mac Portable support Appletalk? Yes
(2) What CPU is in the Mac Portable? A low power version of the 68000
running at 15.87 Mhz.
(3) Does the Mac Portable run system 7? Yes, although it does use up a
lot of memory.
(4) Is memory still availabe for the Portable? There are several vendors
that still make RAM for the Portable. There are two options: Some vendors
sell memory that plugs into the RAM Slot inside the portable. Others sell
memory that plugs into the Processor Direct Slot. Either way, the most
memory you can address is either 8 or 9 megabytes, depending on whether
the Portable is Backlit or not. King Memory and Peripherials in Irvine
California is the cheapest place I know of for Portable memory. 2MB -
$140, 4 MB, $250, and 7 MB $415. I still see several ads in macuser that
are selling 4 MB modules for $450. Wide variety in pricing here.
(5) What is the internal HD? Its a Conner CP-3045 40 MB HD with an
average access time of about 25 ms.
(6) Is the screen better that the PB 100? Heavens yes! The PB 100 is a
backlit PASSIVE matrix screen which means it fades out on you if you move
your head a few degrees left or right. The Portable has a backlit or
non-backlit ACTIVE Matrix screen which I think is a joy to read.
Other things to consider - Where to get the portable and how much to pay
for it? A good supplier has been SelectTerm in Mass. They were willing to
sell a 2MB Non-backlit Portable with an internal 2400 bps modem for about
$650. Or a 4 MB Backlit Portable with an internal 2400 bps modem for
about $900.
The answer is call around for a good while or you'll pay too much.
I'm still looking for an internal FAX modem for the portable? Anybody got
one they want to sell? -- Good Luck, Gene Wright
--
gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright)
theporch.raider.net 615/297-7951 The MacInteresteds of Nashville
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Can I resign BMW MOA and get the remainder of my 5-year membership refunded?
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <1993Apr15.060043.15664@serval.net.wsu.edu> rwilley@eecs.wsu.edu (Ronald Willey - CS) writes:
>
> The Supra accelerator that is mentioned in one of the pervious
>articles, is not 68000 or 68020 based. It runs on a 68030 at 28Mhz and
>the design they are using is very simple( if you were referring to the
>A500 exteranal model).
Hmm - I don't think you and I are thinking of the same thing. I was the
original poster, BTW. The accelerator that I'm talking about almost
certainly uses a 68HC000, according to the footnotes in the Supra ad. It
only costs $199 list, so I really doubt if it has a 28 MHz 68030 inside.
It's called the Supra 28, or Supra Turbo 28.
There's an external A500 model, and an internal A2000 model.
BTW, does anyone know if a 28Mhz 68HC010 exists?
--
Griff Miller > Griff.Miller@waii.com < use this for email.
*** My opinions are mine, not Western's. ***
"Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good.
Anyone who does what is good is from God. Anyone who does
evil has not seen God." - 3 John 9
| 12sci.electronics |
To:All
Hi,
Does anybody have the source code to the externel processes that comes with 3D
Studio, and mabe som kind of DOC for writing the processes your self.
/Lars
+++ Author: Lars_Jorgensen@p7.syntax.bbs.bad.se, Syntax BBS, Denmark
--- GoldED 2.41
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <C5JoIt.E31@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> neil@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Neil Williams) writes:
>As long as we're on the subject... Several years ago myself and two others
>were riding in the front of a Toyota pickup heading south on Interstate 5
>north of Seattle, WA. Someone threw a rock of an overpass and hit our
>windshield. Not by accident I'm sure, it was impossible to get up to the
>overpass quickly to see who did it. We figured it was kids, reported it and
>left.
>A couple of years ago it happend again and killed a guy at my company. He was
>in his mid-fourties and left behind a wife and children. Turned out there was
>a reformatory for juviniles a few blocks away. They caught the 14 year old
>that did it. They put a cover over the overpass, what else could they do?
Execute the juvi on the grounds of the reformatory, required attendendence
by the rest of the inmates, as soon as possible after the incident and a
quick sure trial. I am quite serious. Cause and effect. Nothing else
will ever make a dent.
>I don't think I'll over forget this story.
>Neil Williams, Boeing Computer Services, Bellevue WA.
Me neither.
--
Tom Mackey (206) 865-6575 tomm@voodoo.ca.boeing.com
Boeing Computer Services ....uunet!bcstec!voodoo!tomm
M/S 7K-20, P.O. Box 24346, Seattle, WA 98124-0346
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1pprtvINNctl@aludra.usc.edu> sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child) writes:
>arf@genesis.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>
>>In article <1993Apr1.164804.1105@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com> babb@k2 (Scott Babb) writes:
>>>Jack Schmidling (arf@genesis.MCS.COM) wrote:
>>>: jac2y@Virginia.EDU (Jonathan A. Cook <jac2y>) writes:
>>>: :
>
>[...]
>
>>>Why do you restrict your condemnation of racial strife to Israel?
>>>Do the situations in Bosnia, Tibet, China, etc. not merit your comment?
>
>>As far as I am aware, we have not sent close to $100 billion dollars to
> ^^^
> Let's not exaggerate.
I notice you did not offer an alternative number. Try this one on for
size..... by the year 2000, American taxpayers will have given Israel
one dollar for every star in the Milky Way Galaxy.
I will let you look up the number.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <C5EJL7.LIn@news2.cis.umn.edu> Mike Diack <mike-d@staff.tc.umn.edu> writes:
-In article <C5DGG7.5ox@wang.com> , pvr@wang.com writes:
-> Who sells the special carbide drills used to drill pc boards?
->I am looking for sizes smaller than #60, #65 or #70 would be good.
-best deal i ever saw on carbides was at ELI electronics - Cambridge
-Mass. Quite close to MIT, #70 drills @ $5.00 for a box of 50. ELI are
-in the Boston fone book.
Actually, I think they are all #57. Their phone number is 617 547 5005
and I will probably have some over at the MIT Flea this Sunday.
/mike
--
\|/ Michael L. Ardai N1IST Teradyne ATG Boston
--- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
/|\ ardai@maven.dnet.teradyne.com
| 12sci.electronics |
Yarn of Cargo of Human Bones [1]
Copyright, 1924, by the New York Times Company
Special Cable to The New York Times
PARIS, Dec 22, -- Marseilles is excited by a weird story of the arrival in
that port of a ship flying the British flag and named Zan carrying a
mysterious cargo of 400 tons of human bones consigned to manufacturers there.
The bones are said to have been loaded at Mudania on the Sea of Marmora and
to be the remains of the victims of massacres in Asia Minor. In view of the
rumors circulating it is expected that an inquiry will be instigated.
- - - Reference - - -
[1] _New York Times_, December 23, 1924, page 3, column 2 (bottom)
- - - - - - - - - - - -
On the 78th Commemorative Anniversary of the Turkish genocide of the Armenians,
we remember those whose only crime was to be Armenian in the shadow of an
emerging Turkish proto-fascist state. In their names we demand justice.
In April 1915, the Turkish government began a systematically executed
de-population of the eastern Anatolian homeland of the Armenians through a
genocidal extermination. This genocide was to insure that Turks exclusively
ruled over the geographic area today called the Republic of Turkey. The
result: 1.5 million murdered, 30 billion dollars of Armenian property stolen
and plundered. This genocide ended nearly 3,000 years of Armenian civilization
on those lands. Today, the Turkish government continues to scrape clean any
vestige of a prior Armenian existence on those lands. Today's Turkish
governmental policy is to re-write the history of the era, to manufacture
distortion and generate excuses for their genocide of the Armenian people. In
the face of refutation ad nauseam, the Turkish Historical Society and cronies
shamelessly continue to deny that any such genocide occurred. This policy
merely demonstrates that in the modern era, genocide is an effective state
policy when it remains un-redressed and un-punished. A crime unpunished is a
crime encouraged. Adolf Hitler took this cue less than 25 years after the
successful genocide of the Armenians.
Turkey claims there was no systematic deportation of Armenians, yet...
Armenians were removed from every city, town, and village in the whole of
Turkey! Armenians who resisted deportation and massacre are referred to as
"rebels".
Turkey claims there was no genocide of the Armenians, yet...Turkish population
figures today show zero Armenians in eastern Turkey, the Armenian homeland.
Turkey claims Armenians were always a small minority, yet...Turkey claims
Armenians were a "threat".
In a final insult to the victims, the Republic of Turkey sold the bones of
approximately 100,000 murdered Armenians for profit to Europe.
Today, the Turkish government is enjoying the fruits of that genocide. The
success of this genocide is hangs over the heads of Turkey's Kurdish
population.
The Armenians demand recognition, reparation, return of Armenian land and
property lost as a result of this genocide.
ARMENIANS DEMAND JUSTICE ERMENILER ADALET ISTIYOR
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "Armenia has not learned a lesson in
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | Anatolia and has forgotten the
P.O. Box 382761 | punishment inflicted on it." 4/14/93
Cambridge, MA 02238 | -- Late Turkish President Turgut Ozal
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr21.045548.17418@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st922957@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Arnold Schwarzenweisengreenbluenbraunenburger) writes:
> Y'know, when the right to bear arms was "invented", all we had to worry
> about was the shotgun and pistol. Now, we have to worry about drive-bys
> with Uzis sparaying the entire neighborhood with bullets.
'Scuse me, I'm over here. The large, rotund thing you're addressing is
a replica of Thomas Jefferson's private cannon.
Followups to t.p.g.
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Exactly.
But I'll add another observation: if the chip does become a standard,
the algorithm won't _remain_ secret.
Leaving the government with the only remaining option: to make use
of un-escrowed keys illegal. Which won't begin to bother the terrorists
and child abusers the government is so fond of referring to.
Note that the Federalist papers stress _one_ reason for the right
of citizens to bear arms: to defend themselves _against_ the army.
_Our_ army.
IMHO the _primary_ purpose of private crypto is defend ourselves
_against_ the government. The odd terrorist I'm not worried about;
the goverment damages my quality of life every day.
Rob
--
Robert Ullmann Ariel@World.STD.COM +1 508 879 6994 x226
Quand Maigret poussa la porte du Tabac Fontaine, vers une heure et demie,
le patron du bar, qui venait de se lever, descendait lentement un escalier
en colima çon qui s'amor çait dans l'arri ère-salle. ... Arriv é derri ère le
comptoir, il repousa le gar çon d'un geste n égligent de la main, saisit
une bouteille de vin blanc, un verre, m élangea au vin de l'eau min érale et,
la t ête renvers ée en arri ère, se gargarisa. -- Simenon
[text is ISO 10646 UTF-1 universal character set]
| 11sci.crypt |
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release April 14, 1993
PRESIDENT NAMES OFFICIALS AT
TRANSPORTATION, COMMERCE, DEFENSE, AND OPIC
(Washington, DC) President Clinton announced his intention
today to nominate Albert Herberger to be Administrator of the
Federal Maritime Administration, Loretta Dunn to be Assistant
Secretary of Commerce for Import Administration, and Christopher
Finn to be Executive Vice President of the Overseas Private
Investment Corporation.
Additionally, he has approved the appointments of Joan Yim
to be Deputy Administrator of the Federal Maritime
Administration, Alice Maroni to be Principal Deputy Comptroller
of the Department of Defense, and Deborah Castelman to be Deputy
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Command, Control, and
Communications.
"We are continuing to move forward with putting together a
government of excellent, diverse Americans who share my
commitment to changing the way that Washington works," said the
President. "These six people I am naming today fit that bill."
Biographical sketches of the nominees are attached.
###
BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES OF NOMINEES
April 14, 1993
Albert Herberger, a thirty-five year Navy veteran who
retired with the rank of Vice Admiral, is the Vice President of
the International Planning and Analysis Center (IPAC). Among the
positions he held during his naval service were Deputy Commander-
in-Chief of the U.S. Transportation Command, Director of
Logistics on Staff for the Atlantic Fleet Commander-in-Chief, and
Director of the Military Personnel Policy Division for the Office
of Naval Operations. A surface warfare expert and a merchant
marine officer with over eighteen years operational experience,
Herberger is also Vice Chairman of the National Defense
Transportation Association's Sealift Committee. He is a graduate
of the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy and the Naval Postgraduate
School.
Loretta Dunn has served on the staff of the Senate Committee
on Commerce, Science, and Transportation since 1979. Since 1983
she has been the Committee's Senior Trade Counsel, responsible
for drafting trade legislation and reports, planning and
conducting hearings, managing legislation on the Senate floor and
in conferences with the House, overseeing a variety of executive
branch agencies, including the Department of Commerce. She was
previously a Staff Counsel for the Committee. Dunn holds a B.A.
in History from the University of Kentucky, a J.D. from the
University of Kentucky College of Law, and an L.M. from the
Georgetown University Law Center.
Christopher Finn is the Executive Vice President of Equities
for the American Stock Exchange. Previous positions he has held
have included Senior Vice President of the Air and Water
Technologies Corporation, Chief of Staff to Senator Daniel P.
Moynihan, Deputy Commissioner of the New York State Department of
Economic Development, and Chief Legislative Aide to Congressman
James R. Jones. Finn is a graduate of Harvard College.
Joan Yim is a professional planner with over 17 years
experience in community based planning, policy analysis, project
design and management, inter-agency coordination and government
affairs. From 1975-92, she was with the Hawaii Office of State
Planning as a planner on issues relating to natural resource and
coastal zone management and public infrastructure financing,
among other issues. Currently, she is Supervising Planner with
the Honolulu firm of Parsons Brinckerhogg Quade & Douglas.
Before going to work for the state, she was Executive
Neighborhood Commission Secretary for the City and County of
Honolulu, and Chair on the Kaneohe Community Planning Committee.
A Democratic National committeewoman, Yim holds a B.A. from
Connecticut College and pursued graduate studies at the
University of Hawaii.
(more)
April 14, 1993
page two
Alice Maroni is a professional staff member of the House
Armed Services Committee specializing in defense budget issues.
She previously worked as a national defense specialist in the
Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division of the
Congressional Research Service, and as an international risk
analyst for Rockwell International. She has written extensively
on defense budget related topics. Maroni received her B.A. from
Mount Holyoke College, and an M.A. from the Fletcher School of
Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. She has also completed
the senior service program at the National War College and
Harvard's Program for Senior Executives in National and
International Security.
Deborah Castleman is currently on leave from RAND, where she
is a Space and Defense Policy Analyst. She was an advisor to the
Clinton/Gore campaign on space, science and technology, and
national security issues. Prior to joining RAND in 1989,
Castleman held engineering positions with the Hughes Space and
Communications Group, General Dynamics, and Electrac, Inc. She
served as an Avionics Technician in the Air Force from 1974-77.
Castleman holds a B.S. in Electrical and Electronic Engineering
from California State Polytechnic University, M.S. in Electrical
Engineering from the California Institute of Technology, and M.A.
in International Studies from Claremont Graduate School.
###
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I consider TWM-style Squeezed Titles indispensable in a window
manager. I like to have two tall xterm windows visible at the same
time, with no overlap; and since two windows aren't enough, I have
other xterm windows underneath them, with exactly the same positioning.
In case you're not familiar with Squeezed Titles, here's a crude
picture:
====================== Figure 1 ====================================
|
| +---------+ +---------+ +=========+
| + title A + + title B + + title C +
| +------------------------+ +------------------------------+
| + this is the + + window B hides window C, but +
| + body of the + + you can still see C's title +
| + window, window A + + which is squeezed right. +
| +------------------------+ +------------------------------+
|
====================== Figure 1 ====================================
Squeezed titles allow me to have about 5 such windows in each stack,
with easy access; and 3 per stack is usually more than I really
need, since I also insist on having a virtual WM.
The only problem is that the title location is static, that is, it
is configured in .twmrc, and in order to change it you have to edit
that file and restart the window manager. Doing so is cumbersome and
time-consuming.
Therefore, I have implemented f.squeeze{ left, center, right }
functions in my own copy of vtwm; the idea being that with one click
of a button, you can change this:
+---------+
+ title A +
+------------------------+
+ this is the +
+ body of the +
+ window, window A +
+------------------------+
to this:
+---------+
+ title A +
+------------------------+
+ this is the +
+ body of the +
+ window, window A +
+------------------------+
===============
Okay. So far, so good. Now, how the heck do I get them to put this
into the next "official" twm, and the next tvtwm, and the next vtwm,
and the next ctwm? And the next xyztwm that I never heard of?
One way would be to post, in comp.windows.x, a description of this
enhancement, together with an explanation of why I think it is a
Very Good Thing, and hope that someone reads it. :-)
In case it isn't already clear why I think it's a Very Good Thing,
look back up at Figure 1, and picture window A moved over on top of
windows B and C; now window A's title hides Window B's title;
but when you hit f.squeezecenter, the result is:
+=========+ +---------+ +=========+
+ title B + + title A + + title C +
+-------------------------------------+
+ this is the body of the window, +
+ window A, which is on top. +
+-------------------------------------+
===================
The rest of this posting explains how to implement it, based on my
X11R4 copy of vtvwm.shar; it's just a sketch because posting the
full diffs would be too long.
The key to this enhancement is to add the following lines in the
ExecuteFunction() routine in menus.c:
#ifdef SHAPE
case F_SQUEEZELEFT:
{ static SqueezeInfo left_squeeze = { J_LEFT, 0, 0 };
if (DeferExecution (context, func, Scr->SelectCursor))
return TRUE;
tmp_win->squeeze_info = &left_squeeze;
SetFrameShape( tmp_win );
break;
}
.... and similarly for squeezeright ( J_RIGHT ) and
squeezecenter ( J_CENTER ) ...
#endif
( Of course, you also have to define F_SQUEEZELEFT in parse.h
and add
{ "f.squeezeleft", FKEYWORD, F_SQUEEZELEFT },
... and so forth ...
to parse.c
In order to use these functions, add something like the
following to your .twmrc file:
Button2 = m | s : w|v|d|r|i|t|door : f.squeezecenter
=================
About a year ago, I posted this, but our news was broken and I
*think* it didn't get out.
Since then, "blast" has appeared in comp.sources.x, Volume 19,
Issue 41; you could use blast to achieve a similar effect, by
chiseling away at an mwm-style wide title. Better to have a
twm-style window manager, I think.
--
Ralph Betza (FM),
uunet!ssiny!gnohmon gnohmon@ssiny.com
"The question of whether a computer can swim is more interesting
than the question of whether a submarine can think" - Lenny Dykstra
| 5comp.windows.x |
I am using a 8507 IBM monitor (19" greysale) with a Trident (1MB) card.
The screen looks great (Windows) at 640x480 but total shit at 1024x768.
There are lots of lines and the image is sorta blurry.
Is there anything I can do. Do you think it is the monitor? I know
that it is Interlaced at that res but still.
thanks for the help
Paul Davies
pdavies@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
: While it's possible that it's a ham radio transmitter that you're
: hearing, it isn't likely - every bit of signal that doesn't go out the
: antenna is wasted, as far as a ham is concerned, and most hams are
It is the radiated signal that would cause the problem.
: technically competent to ensure that they don't waste any signal if they
: can possibly avoid it. To get their ham license, they had to pass a
: government exam that tests them on that point, among others.
:
: However, you could be hearing a radio transmitter for sure - there are
: lots of other services where the operators AREN'T required to be
: technically competent - Citizens Band ("CB"), for example.
There is nothing in the Amateur Radio Tests that requires an technical
competence at all. It is a simple matter to memorize all the questions
and answers. However, that said, most Hams that I know do spend quite
a bit of time gaining some technical skill.
: Listen to the interference. If you hear voices clearly, it almost
: certainly ISN'T ham radio, and might well be CB. If you can record a
Don't count on that.
: bit of it, you could take the tape over to a local ham operator's house
: and ask him for his opinion of what you're hearing. Most communities
You cannot do that legally. However, you can ask a ham over to listen.
If the interference occurs at a specific time each day, then it would
be possible to do such scheduling. If nothing else, you could invite
the ham over to transmit from your driveway, to see if he interferes.
If he does, then you probably need to have your equipment worked on to
make it immune to rf interference.
: have a ham radio interference committee whose members are most willing
: to help you resolve interference complaints. Look in the phone book, or
: ask at the local ham radio store, or call the FCC for contact info.
The FCC may, or may not, have such information. They have enough to do
without getting calls for such information. If nothing else, call your
city offices or police department (general business number). They should
have the name of a local ham contact.
: If it's a ham, he's more than likely willing to help get rid of the
: problem. After all, it would be his signal he's wasting. If it isn't,
: the interference committee or the FCC may be able to suggest solutions.
See above - your concept of wasted signal is erroneous. If his rig is
transmitting properly, then the chance of interference (with the exception
of harmonic television interference) is the greatest - since he is putting
out the strongest signal.
: It is unfortunately the case that a transmitting station that is
: operating perfectly legally could possibly cause intereference to a
: piece of consumer audio or TV equipment just because the manufacturer of
: the consumer equipment cut corners on one little section of the device
: that wouldn't affect one person in a thousand, but which bites you.
: Often that can be remedied for just a few pennies by a knowledgeable
: person, perhaps even the person operating the transmitter you're
: hearing.
Unfortunately, most consumer equipment is succeptable - it is all poorly
designed.
: (BTW: hams are ALLOWED amplifiers; CB isn't. "illegal ham amplifier"
: doesn't compute.)
It does, but not for a mobile radio. There are very few mobile rigs that
could power a 1500 watt amplifier.
Bill
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr16.194708.13273@vax.oxford.ac.uk> jaj@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>What all you turkey pro-pistol and automatic weapons fanatics don't seem to
>realize is that the rest of us *laugh* at you. You don't make me angry, you
>just make me chuckle -
Steve,
It's nice that you find me laughable but I don't quite
understand. Is it because you think my firearms clash with
what I'm wearing, or that my NRA sticker isn't on straight?
Please state your judgement!
I find it sad that people won't accept the responsibility
to defend themselves. And I laugh with the same contempt you
have for me at the sheep who expect the government to protect
them.
>What he didn't realize was that we took a photo of the back of his truck, and
>showed it to our friends when we got back to Vancouver, Canada (where I'm from
>originally). People were guffawing at the basic stupidity of such a
>sticker, and the even greater stupidity of the person who put it there in the
>first place! :)
You and your friends sound like a bunch of smug intellectuals.
>Now that I live in Britain, I can see how the rest of the civilized world
>perceives you gun-nut morons.
Oh, I guess you are. I'm still waiting for you all-knowing
academic-likes to solve the worlds problems. Let us know when
you have the answers or punch lines as this case may be.
>The only problem is that Canada, I hear, is suffering from your national
>eccentricity, in that easy to purchase weapons are being smuggled cross the
>border.
So it's not a "Yankee" thing?
Are Canadians actually as uncivilized as we Americans?
>Hell, here in Britain, the cops don't even carry guns.
Well if it's anything like here it wouldn't matter if they
did; they wouldn't be able to use them.
>Hell, as I recall, in People's Court, even Rusty carried a gun! Never
>know, some plaintiff might go nuts. :) )
You shouldn't waste your time watching TV, Steve. It will corrupt
your mind.
>
>Anyway, all you gun nut Rush Limbaugh fans, please *keep* up your diatribes
>against Brady and other evil "Liberal media" plots - you 're so damn funny!
>You provide endless amounts of entertainment in your arguments and examples of
>why someone should be allowed to carry a piece! Keep us all chuckling!
Ditto to you, Self Righteous One.
Lay your derogatory tirade on thick, Steve. Y'all can keep laughing and
I'll keep feeling safe and secure.
>
>Steve
Johanes
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <lrw509f@rpi.edu> wangr@rpi.edu writes:
> Are people here stupid or what??? It is a tie breaker, of cause they
>have to have the same record. How can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as
>first in the list for tie breaker??? If it is a tie breaker, how can there be
>different record???? Man, I thought people in this net are good with hockey.
>I might not be great in Math, but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points
>with different record??? Man...retard!!!!!! Can't believe people actually put
>win as first in a tie breaker......
>
>
I didn't see any smilies in this message so.......
W T L PTs
Team A 50 30 4 104
Team B 52 32 0 104
There you go. Two teams that tie in points without identical records.
--
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
clipper@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Clipper Chip Announcement) writes:
>The President has approved a directive on "Public Encryption
>Management." The directive provides for the following:
[...]
>When
>exported abroad, it can be used to thwart foreign intelligence
>activities critical to our national interests.
[...]
>The Attorney General of the United States, or her representative,
>shall request manufacturers of communications hardware which
>incorporates encryption to install the U.S. government-developed
>key-escrow microcircuits in their products.
Quite interesting. How does the US administration intend to persuade
non - US governments to let the NSA eavesdrop on them? Or should U.S.
companies install these chips in communication systems sold abroad
without the customer's knowedge or consent, or not at all?
--
Thomas Koenig, ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double
logarithmic diagram.
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1993Apr23.044544.24559@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) says:
This is where Freeman's love of accuracy becomes really ridiculous.
>
>Good - now let's look at those sections. They'll prove my point.
[his point was that it is possible under certain circumstances for many people
to carry concealed in Illinois]
>
>> (a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he
>>knowingly:
>>
>>(4) Carries or possesses in any vehicle or CONCEALED on or about his person
>> except when on his land or in his own abode or fixed place of business
>> any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm;
>
>Note that this doesn't affect all concealed carry. (Look after the
>word "except".) It always helps to read the law before commenting on
>it.
>
I did read the law before I commented on it. Judging from replies I received
about my "Semantics on t.p.g" post many (if not most) people here on t.p.g
assume that when CCW laws are asked about the person is asking about the
possibility of an ordinary citizen getting one. It would also follow that said
person would get the CCW to carry on his/her person away from their home and/or
business.
>Would a prudent storekeeper carry concealed? How about someone at
>home? Note that both are legal, and a lot of "common" people qualify
>for one or the other.
>
>-andy
>--
Maybe Freeman did prove his point but his point is not relevant. The thing
that most people seem to care about when they ask questions about carrying
a concealed weapon is whether or not they can carry it concealed on their
person when they are out on the street somewhere. I'm sure that not many
people are concerned with whether or not they can carry concealed at home.
Speaking as someone who lives in Illinois (the only place where the above
quoted law is relevant :-)) I know that it is legal to own a handgun here (I
am not taking into account city ordinances). I could care less about whether
or not I can carry concealed at home. I only care about the fact that
I can't carry concealed in the place where it really counts- out on the street.
Freeman loves to be accurate and I can understand that (especially not) but he
seems to be forgetting that accurate facts don't always replace common sense.
I am not going to followup to this thread anymore because I believe that it is
useless to argue these points anymore. The only thing that is happening now
is that Freeman and I are "running around in circles" trying to prove each
other wrong and I do not have the time to be playing games anymore. Of course
now Freeman will attack me about my use of common sense in some of my earlier
posts but what can I do. My only advice for Freeman - quit being so picky
about accuracy sometimes and use your common sense; it really does work some-
times.
Jason - u28037@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Biblical basis for the Immaculate Conception:
1) "I will put enmity between you [the Serpent] and the woman, and
between your seed and her seed, she [can also be read he] shall crush
your head and you shall bruise her [or his] heel."
-Genesis 3.15
2) "He who commits sin is of the devil ..."
-1 John 3.8
3) "Hail, full of grace [greek - kecharitomene], the Lord is with thee ..."
-Luke 1.28
From the above, we prove the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception.
First, God has given the proto-evangel in Genesis 3.15, which is the
first promise of a savior, who will redeem mankind from the wiles of
Satan. "[Satan] was a murderer from the beginning, and has not stood in
the truth because there is no truth in him." John 8.44. Now the
proto-evangel promises several things, enmity between Satan and "the
woman", and enmity between Satan and "her seed." Now the woman is both
Eve (who is the immediate point of reference) and Mary, the second Eve.
"Her seed" is Jesus Christ, and He is also at enmity with Satan in the
same way as Mary is said to be at enmity with Satan. Thus, knowing as
we do that Jesus Christ is sinless (Hebrews 7.26), we can conclude that
Mary is also sinless because if she wasn't she would 1) not be at enmity
with the devil, as 1 John 3.8 tells us, and 2) the relation of her
sinlessness to Christ's sinlessness would be called into question, as
would God's veracity. For God promised an enmity between Mary and the
serpent, and it is not possible for God to lie or be decieved.
Second, we have the Angelic Greeting where Mary is called by the
Archangle Gabriel "full of grace." As I pointed out above this is from
the Greek word "Kecharitomene" which means not just full of grace, but a
plenitude or perfection of grace. The sense of it is best grasped by
the footnote to the Jerusalem Bible, "Hail you who have been and reamin
filled with grace." But that is a little to long to say, so it is
reduced to full of grace. And as it says, "you who have been" Mary had
always been filled with grace, from the moment of her conception, which
was also the moment of her salvation, until her death some years later.
It must be admitted that it is possible that God could have done
what the doctrine of the Immaclute Conception says He did do. And if
God could keep himself free from any contact with sin, through his
Mother, He would have, and the Bible records this fact, to which the
Fathers of the Church such as St. John Damascus, St. Augustine of Hippo
, St. Ambrose and others are in complete agreement with, as is all of
Christian tradition, and as is the infallible declaration of the Pope on
the matter in "Ineffibilus Deus."
Andy Byler
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Hi All.
I am working on a project in visual basic ver. 2.0 and I need to show
PostCript files I am getting from another aplication.
So, because i can't show PostScript directly form Visual Basic (at least I
don't know how), i need a utility to convert them to BMP, WMF.
Any help will be appreshieated.
kobi elimelech
---------------------------------------------------------------
messges can be sent to me at kobi@asimov.hacktic.nl
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Xircom Pocket Ethernet Adapter
Connects any PC with a parallel port to the network
Make offer
--
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| 6misc.forsale |
I'd like to converse with anyone who has purchased a 1993 Honda
Civic about their experience. I'm new to the car buying game
and would like to know what price I can expect to pay for a sedan
after bargaining.
Thanks in advance,
-- Ellen
| 7rec.autos |
We will be holding a bake and craft sale at Communiversity in Princeton on
Nassau Street, Saturday April 24th 12-4 p.m. to benefit the Recurrent
Respiratory Papillomatosis Foundation, a nonprofit foundation established to
encourage research toward a cure for Recurrent Respiratory Papillomatosis. Our
three year old daughter suffers from this disease. Below is a press release
that appeared in local newspapers. Hope you can join us.
On Saturday, April 24 as part of Communiversity in Princeton, a local family
will be having a bake and craft sale to raise money for and create public
awareness about a rare disease called Recurrent Respiratory Papillomatosis.
Bill and Marlene Stern's daughter Lindsay is afflicted with this disease
characterized by tumors attacking the inside of the larynx, vocal cords and
trachea. Caused by a virus, the tumors grow, block the air passages and would
lead to death from suffocation without continual surgery to remove the growths.
Three year old Lindsay has undergone 11 operations thus far since her diagnosis
last year and faces the prospect of over a hundred operations throughout her
lifetime.
Even though the disease is hardly a household word, it has affected the lives
of enough people to inspire the formation of the Recurrent Respiratory
Papillomatosis Foundation, a non-profit foundation whose goals are to provide
support for patients and families by networking patients and publishing a
newsletter, enhance awareness of RRP at the local and national level, and aid
in the prevention, cure, and treatment.
Since medical researchers know that the virus causing the disease is similar to
those viruses causing warts, they feel a cure would be within reach if money
were available for research. Because RRP is rare, it not only gets scant
attention but also paltry funds to search for a cure. Part of the RRP
Foundation's mission is to change that.
Anyone interested in contributing items to the bake and craft sale, please call
Marlene or Bill at 609-890-0502. Monetary donations can be made at the
Foundation's booth during Communiversity, April 24th, 12 to 4 p.m., in downtown
Princeton, or sent directly to:
The Recurrent Respiratory Foundation
50 Wesleyan Drive
Hamilton Sq., NJ 08690.
Thanks mstern@lindsay.princeton.edu
| 13sci.med |
xgetftp-1.2 needs an archie client program.
Does anybody know, where I can get it?
Thanks in advance, Kai
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr15.214910.5676@rtsg.mot.com> declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck) writes:
|In article <1993Apr15.003749.15710@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
|>In article <1993Apr14.220252.14731@rtsg.mot.com> declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck) writes:
|>|
|>|The difference of opinion, and difference in motorcycling between the sport-bike
|>|riders and the cruiser-bike riders.
|>
|>That difference is only in the minds of certain closed-minded individuals. I
|>have had the very best motorcycling times with riders of "cruiser"
|>bikes (hi Don, Eddie!), yet I ride anything but.
|
|Continuously, on this forum, and on the street, you find quite a difference
|between the opinions of what motorcycling is to different individuals.
Yes, yes, yes. Motorcycling is slightly different to each and every one of us. This
is the nature of people, and one of the beauties of the sport.
|Cruiser-bike riders have a different view of motorcycling than those of sport bike riders
|(what they like and dislike about motorcycling). This is not closed-minded.
And what view exactly is it that every single rider of cruiser bikes holds, a veiw
that, of course, no sport-bike rider could possibly hold? Please quantify your
generalization for us. Careful, now, you're trying to pigeonhole a WHOLE bunch
of people.
Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com) | "I'm getting tired of
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!) | beating you up, Dave.
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!) | You never learn."
AMA 583905 DoD #0330 COG 939 (Chicago) | -- Beth "Bruiser" Dixon
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <May.13.02.30.39.1993.1545@geneva.rutgers.edu> noye@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>i believe that the one
>important thing that those who wrote the old and new testament
>passages cited above did NOT know was that there is scientific
>evidence to support that homosexuality is at least partly _inherent_
>rather than completely learned.
Note that "scientific evidence" in this area does not prove any conclusions.
There has been evidence to suggest that a certain part of homosexual's
brains are different from heterosexuals- but that proves very little.
Also notice that the apostles did not have with them the "scientific
evidence" linking certain genes with alcoholism, or stealing with certain
genetic problems. Even if they did have scientific evidence, I doubt it
would have stopped them from communicating the teaching from the Holy
Spirit that these things are sinful.
This reminds me of a conversation with a professor of mine. He said
something very true. Christianity teaches that we should not give in
to our every inclination. Most people do give in to their leanings.
In Christianity, we have the concept of struggling with the flesh,
and bringing it into submission. One person may have a problem with
his temper, and having a murderous heart, another may have a problem
with homosexuality, another may be inclined to greed. But God offers
us the opportunity to be more than conquerers.
>sources where you can find this information, there is homosexual
>behavior recorded among monkeys and other animals, which is in itself
>suggestive that it is inherent rather than learned, or at least that
>the word "unnatural" shouldn't really apply....
The preying mantis bites the head off of her mate after she mates
with him. Is it natural for a woman to do the same thing to her husband?
The Bible is concerned with human morality, and only touches on animal
morality as it relates to humans.
Link Hudson.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <May.12.04.28.31.1993.9972@athos.rutgers.edu>, autry@magellan.stlouis.sgi.com (Larry Autry) writes:
|> ... the subject of what the definition of
|> Christianity is. His definition is tied directly to that of the
|> Trinity and the Catholic church's definition of it and belief in
|> Jesus Christ is not sufficient to call one's self a Christian.
|> ...
|> So, is there common definition of what Christianity is?
The basic definition that I use is:
The belief that Jesus was God incarnate.
The belief that Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead
for our salvation.
The acceptance of Jesus as personal Lord and Savior.
This would include most Christian denominations, but exclude the Unitarians.
--
sarima@teradata.com (formerly tdatirv!sarima)
or
Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr19.140457.27718@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes...
>In article <18APR199319273822@venus.tamu.edu> gmw0622@venus.tamu.edu (Mr. Grinch) writes:
>>
:>Steve, you're the one who suggested that a failed government should be an
:>ideal proving ground, I never felt that way in the first place. Quite the
:>contrary, I think a better proving ground would be someplace that already
:>had a governemnt that would prevent outright acts of agression, yet had a
:>strong spirit of individualism and initiative. Someplace like... Texas :-)
:>
:>Mr. Grinch
:
:
:
:And while Texas taxpayers might willingly eliminate tax-support for UT
:and TAMU, I'm not sure they'd support gutting the football programs.
:
Football can pay for itself.
:Then there's the impact on Ross Perot's fortune of eliminating the various
>state supported programs where he's made his money...
Why? He's already made it. Sure nodoby else will be able to bilk
the public in the same specific ways, but why should he (or I) care?
>
:All in all, Texas doesn't seem to be a very likely place for
:libertarianism to take hold. :-)
>
More likely than most places. When I was there the most "important"
state issue was whether to have a state income tax or instead legalize
a popular vice for fund raising, and vice won a decisive victory!
>jsh
Mr. Grinch
p.s. Now that he's safely dead, I expect David Koresh to become the
hero of popular folk ballads, and the ATF to be generally equated with
Santa Anna
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Mark Kromer, on the Thu, 15 Apr 1993 00:42:46 GMT wibbled:
: In an article rtaraz@bigwpi (Ramin Taraz) wrote:
: >Does the "amount of exhaust allowed to leave the engine through the
: >exhaust pipe" make that much of a difference? the amount of air/fuel
: >mixture that a cylender sucks in (tries to suck in) depends on the
: >speed of the piston when it goes down.
: ...and the pressure in the cylinder at the end of the exhaust stroke.
: With a poor exhaust system, this pressure may be above atmospheric.
: With a pipe that scavenges well this may be substantially below
: atmospheric. This effect will vary with rpm depending on the tune of
: the pipe; some pipes combined with large valve overlap can actually
: reverse the intake flow and blow mixture out of the carb when outside
: the pipes effective rev range.
: >Now, my question is which one provides more resistence as far as the
: >engine is conserned:
: >) resistance that the exhaust provides
: >) or the resistance that results from the bike trying to push itself and
: > the rider
: Two completely different things. The state of the pipe determines how
: much power the motor can make. The load of the bike determines how
: much power the motor needs to make.
: --
: - )V(ark)< FZR400 Pilot / ZX900 Payload / RD400 Mechanic
: You're welcome.
Well I, for one, am so very glad that I have fuel injection! All those
needles and orifices and venturi and pressures... It's worse than school human
biology reproduction lessons (sex). Always made me feel a bit queasy.
--
Nick (the Simple Minded Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford Tube Rider
M'Lud.
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' ` ` ' ' ` ` ' Currently incarcerated at BNR,
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
Two meg. sim that came from a PB100 for sale. I am asking $60 (postage
included). If you are interested please e-mail me via internet. If you do
not
have internet availability you may contact me at 301/468-0241.
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
10748539@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (CHARLES CHOONG) writes:
>HELP, PROBLEM 486/33MHZ HANGS IN EXTENDED MODE TRYING TO
>ACCESS DRIVES A: OR B: , SOMETIMES IT WILL DO DIR , SOMETIMES WILL HANG
>ON ACCESS SOMETIMES WILL WHEN TYING A TEXT FILE.
>HARDWARE:
>AMERICAN MEGATREND MOTHERBOARD
>AMI BIOS 91
>CONNER 85MB HARD DRIVE
>TRIDENT 1 MEG SVGA
>PLEASE HELP!!!
>ITS OK IN STANDARD MODE!!!
I have the same problem. Someone suggested it might be a BIOS bug.
Gonna check with my supplier tomorrow. I'll tell you if it helps.
Wouter.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <20756.2bd16dea@ecs.umass.edu> alee@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>Greetings!
>
> Situation: I have a phone jack mounted on a wall. I don't
> know the number of the line. And I don't want
> to call up the operator to place a trace on it.
>
> Question: Is there a certain device out there that I can
> use to find out the number to the line?
> Thanks for any response.
> Al
>
>
How about calling someone with the Caller ID service and have them call you back
with the number?
--
Richard Cook (519) 641-1985 E-mail: rcook@gfx.engga.uwo.ca
Elect. Eng. FAX (519) 661-3488
| 12sci.electronics |
I get the picture, I just find it humorous that Running Windows 3.1 apps ( 3.0 for 2.0 )
is what makes os/2 more credible...
cliff
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr15.170720.8538@colorado.edu> drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (
Drew Eckhardt) writes:
>
>Most cars have drain petcocks in the radiators, and I've never
>seen nor heard of a vandal opening one. I imagine that there
>would be an even lower risk with an oil plug because you have
>to crawl furthur under the car to open it.
>
>Car vandals are usually real traditional in their methods, and do things
>that don't get them dirty, like keying your car, dumping sand, sugar
>or mothballs in the gas tank, TPing it, etc.
USUALLY....go enough places and you'll see stuff happen you didn't think did.
Steve
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1993Apr16.052013.23517@leland.Stanford.EDU> tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
>>but you'll
>>never catch me dead in a minivan!
>even a minivan based on viper running gear?
hmmmm.. not sure, since no such beast exists.. i can tell you another
though.. you won't catch me dead in a GMC Syclone or Typhoon either,
1000 bhp or not.. not even the fact that Clint Eastwood has one. just
my taste, no rational reasons for it.
>-teddy
>p.s. i think the audi S4 gets a 4.2 liter V-8 next year.
CAR just tested the S4 wagon with 5 banger and 6 speed manual. Rave
review except for Servotronic.. Audi is trying to recoup the
development costs for the V8, and since the V8 is not selling well,
they are sticking it into the 100 series cars.. Neat marketing trick,
eh? yeah, a 100 V8-32v wouldn't be a bad idea as competition for the
upcoming bimmer 530/540i would it? maybe they can use a 3.6 liter
version to avoid conflicts with the v8 model.. then strip off all the
luxo-garbage. let the S4 remain with the flared arches and fat tires
to go fight with the M5.... maybe turn up the boost a wee bit to bump
bhp up to say 450 or so.. :-) while keeping the 100 V8 with mercedes
500E style subtlety.
blah blah blah....
eliot
| 7rec.autos |
In article 422@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de, gsmith@lauren.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith) writes:
>I *have* found a great
>deal of evidence that there were many flaming heterosexuals among the
>Nazis. This seems to include all of the worst ones--Hitler, Himmler,
>Goebbels, Goering, Heydrich, Eichmann, and many more.
Oh Deary ME......
Do you think that clayton cramer is aware of this
Nazi-Het connection?????
My, My, My!!!!
Clearly Proof Enough for ME that we
must Register Hets NOW!!!!
ciao
drieux
ps: It's just SHOCKING where Hets crop up....
---
"All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!
All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!"
-Last Call of the Wild of the Humour Lemmings
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1qjtmjINNq45@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, carlos@beowulf.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion) writes:
> I have come to the conclusion that the TV stations here in LA
> WANT a riot to happen when the verdict comes in.
Why is this surprising? Then the _Times_ can get a few more
Pulitzers the same way they did last year.
--
Michael Thomas (mike@gordian.com)
"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."
-- Hobbes to Calvin
USnail: 20361 Irvine Ave Santa Ana Heights, Ca, 92707-5637
PaBell: (714) 850-0205 (714) 850-0533 (fax)
| 18talk.politics.misc |
zeev@ccc.amdahl.com (Ze'ev Wurman) writes:
>But do we really believe that the various governments
>(including ours) won't have the full lists of all the keys ever manufactured?
Yes, but they'll be encrypted with Cripple Chip encryption, the
encryption algorithm so great it's TOP SECRET and so unbreakable
they WON'T EVEN LET YOU LOOK AT IT!
Doesn't that make you feel SECURE?
----
Robert W. Clark Just Say No! to the
rclark@nyx.cs.du.edu Big Brother Chip
| 11sci.crypt |
Henrik?? and Hilmi writes:
|>henrik] The Armenians in Nagarno-Karabagh are simply DEFENDING their
|>henrik] RIGHTS to keep their homeland and it is the AZERIS that are
|>henrik] INVADING their homeland.
|>HE] Homeland? First Nagarno-Karabagh was Armenians homeland today
|>HE] Fizuli, Lacin and several villages (in Azerbadjan)
|>HE] are their homeland. Can't you see the
|>HE] the "Great Armenia" dream in this? With facist methods like
|>HE] killing, raping and bombing villages. The last move was the
|>HE] blast of a truck with 60 kurdish refugees, trying to
|>HE] escape the from Lacin, a city that was "given" to the Kurds
|>HE] by the Armenians.
|>Nagorno-Karabakh is in Azerbaijan not Armenia. Armenians have lived in Nagorno-
|>Karabakh ever since there were Armenians. Armenians used to live in the areas
|>between Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh and this area is being used to invade
|>Nagorno- Karabakh. Armenians are defending themselves. If Azeris are dying
|>because of a policy of attacking Armenians, then something is wrong with this
|>policy. ************
Attacking? Who is attacking who? Even the country you live in,USA, have condemned
Armenia for it's attacking. And you start to say that the attackers
are the Azeris?????
|>Armenians have lived in Nagorno Karabakh ever since there were Armenians
?????
Azeris have lived in Nagorno Karabakh ever since there were Azeris...
Don't come with nonsence, there is no reason to attack a people
just because a man called "Gorbatjov and co." gave the "freedom" to the people
in this area.
|>If I recall correctly, it was Stalin who caused all this problem with land
|>in the first place, not the Armenians.
It's easy for people like you to blame history. The were a lot of
Indians living in USA. There is no reason for these
Indians to attack the "American"
people and say:"It was the fault of the government of Germany and Great
Britain, because they made people come to our place......" Armenians lived in
harmony with the Azeris until "Gorbatjov and co." gave "freedom" to the people
in Karabag, then the Armenians started to kill, rape and torture the Azeris, not only
in Karabag but also noe in Azerbadjan....
|>henrik] However, I hope that the Armenians WILL force a TURKISH airplane
|>henrik] to LAND for purposes of SEARCHING for ARMS similar to the one
|>henrik] that happened last SUMMER. Turkey searched an AMERICAN plane
|>henrik] (carrying humanitarian aid) bound to ARMENIA.
|>HE] Don't speak about things you don't know: 8 U.S. Cargo planes
|>HE] were heading to Armenia. When the Turkish authorities
|>HE] announced that they were going to search these cargo
|>HE] planes 3 of these planes returned to it's base in Germany.
|>HE] 5 of these planes were searched in Turkey. The content of
|>HE] of the other 3 planes? Not hard to guess, is it? It was sure not
|>HE] humanitarian aid.....
|>What story are you talking about? Planes from the U.S. have been sending
|>aid into Armenian for two years. I would not like to guess about what were in
|>the 3 planes in your story, I would like to find out.
|>HE] Search Turkish planes? You don't know what you are talking about.
|>HE] Turkey's government has announced that it's giving weapons
|>HE] to Azerbadjan since Armenia started to attack Azerbadjan
|>HE] it self, not the Karabag province. So why search a plane for weapons
|>HE] since it's content is announced to be weapons?
|>It's too bad you would want Turkey to start a war with Armenia.
That's what i don't want, you couldn't imagine the result of a war.....
So France, Greece and USA wants to start fighting with Azerbadjan????
They give a lot more weapons to the Armenians without
saying it, that's no secret any more......
I must say that these Armenian Government is very shortsighted.
Do they think that they shall move from it's neigbours when the war
is over???? The neighbour around will be there and Armenia must
live in harmony with these if they don't want a "stone-age" country,
for that's what's will happen Armenia if the wars continues.
Look, The President of Turkey, Turgut Ozal, died and Petrosyan
the Armenian Presindent is now in Turkey for the funeral. Is it because
he liked him? Sure NOT, because Armenia needs it's neighbours and must
live with these. But Armenia can't stop this war with continued ordertaking
from states like France and USA. With other words, if you love your people
you must think twice.....
And i wonder, "Shoot down turkish planes" WITH WHAT????? ohhh i forgot
the Armenians can't find food but there are a lot of arms from the mentioned
countries.....
Hilmi Eren
Stockholm University
Sweden
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1r67ruINNmle@ctron-news.ctron.com> king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
>
>rfox@charlie.usd.edu writes:
>
>[Discussion on Josephus inserts]
>
>Thanks. Am I correct, then, in assuming that that Josephus
>did in fact write about Jesus, but Christian copists embellished it?
"Correct" overstates the case. The whole point of the discussions
has been that it is *reasonable* to assume that there was some brief
reference to Jesus that has been doctored. By consensus, this is
the *most* reasonable of the proposed solutions -- but not so much
so as to rule out complete fabrication.
--
Michael L. Siemon "Stand, stand at the window
mls@panix.com As the tears scald and start.
mls@ulysses.att.com You shall love your crooked neighbor
-standard disclaimer- With your crooked heart."
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr5.194440.18546@ists.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes:
>In article <burke.1-290393150052@burkemac.oshag.nd.edu> burke.1@nd.edu (R. P. Burke) writes:
>>When talking about hockey broadcasters, let's give a moment of silence to
>>remember the St. Louis Blues' great, Dan Kelly. (Many of you may have heard
>>him in the late 60s and early 70s on CBS.) He used to do Hockey Night In
>>Canada intermissions, with another recently deceased great, Danny Gallivan
>>of the Canadiens.
>
I *loved* Dan Kelly! He was on USA when I first got hooked on Hockey back
in 1980 or so. No, he wasn't always spot on top of the play, and he
wasn't overly cute, but those pipes! That lusty, barrel chested, voice!
No pipsqueak was he (unlike some fellas we know!)
I rode into hockey mania on the coattails of Gretzky and the Boys on the
Bus. My first Finals saw the Islanders sweep them. But I'll never
forget the night, a year later, when the Oilers closed it out at home in
the pandemonium, the smoke from a million sparklers, the long empty-net
goal near the end, and Dan Kelly letting the crowd's reaction tell the
story for a few long seconds, then that voice barking through the din
"Dave Lumley ... sews it up for Edmonton!" It sounds stupid, but that
early (for me) hockey memory will always bring a thrill. Since then
I've grown a lot more jaded about the game, but I was really saddened
by Dan Kelly's passing. He was one of the good guys.
Brian Adams
Reno
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
cam@hawk.adied.oz.au (The Master) writes:
> etoyoc@leland.Stanford.EDU (aaron thode) writes:
>
> >Having tracked sci.space for quite a while, I have some questions
> >about a mysterious figure called Henry Spencer. If there is anything
> >going on in the space community, he seems to know it.
> > The questions are somewhat tounge-in-cheek:
> > 1) Is sci.space a hobby or a job for you?
> > 1) Do you ever eat or sleep?
> > 3) Does U of Toronto Zoology department conduct space research?
> > Or do you just use an account there?
> >Just curious.
>
> >Aaron
>
> Well, Henry Spencer is *also* responsible for parts of Cnews, and other
> internet related things.
>
> Quite a guy. :)
>
> Onya Henry!
>
> c.
>
This question comes up frequently enough that there should be a faq
about it...
============================================================================
Thierry Lach curlie!thierry@sycom.mi.org
#include "std.disclaimer"
"Sufficiently superior technology is indistingushable from magic"
| 14sci.space |
In article 10823@bnr.ca, npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:
>
>Back in my youth (ahem) the wiffy and moi purchased a gadget which heated up
>water from a 12V source. It was for car use but we thought we'd try it on my
>RD350B. It worked OK apart from one slight problem: we had to keep the revs
>above 7000. Any lower and the motor would die from lack of electron movement.
On my LC (RZ to any ex-colonists) I replaced the bolt at the bottom of the barrel
with a tap. When I wanted a coffee I could just rev the engine until boiling
and pour out a cup of hot water.
I used ethylene glycol as antifreeze rather than methanol as it tastes sweeter.
(-:
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U # (44) 203 692255 #
# DoD#226 GSXR1100L #
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
ab616@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Dion) writes:
>For a project of my own, I would like to build a Infra-Red Remote control
>receiver (for regular VCRs and TVs remotes). Does anybody have any info
>or tips on how to build such receiver ?
>In particular,
>a) which photo detector should I use (which wavelength do remotes use) ?
>b) which ICs or circuit should I use ?
>c) any suggestions for circuit layout
>Please reply to this group (if you wish), but as well via e-mail (my
>link to usenet is not always available).
I'd like to see this info as well. As for wavelength, I think
you're primarily going to find two - 880 nM +/- a bit, and/or 950 nM
+/- a bit. Usually it is about 10 nM either way. The two most common
I have seen were 880 and 950 but I have also heard of 890 and 940.
I'm not sure that the 10 nM one way or another will make a great deal of
difference.
Another suggestion - find a brand of TV that uses an IR remote,
and go look at the SAMS photofact for it. You can often find some very
detailed schematics and parts list for not only the receiver but the
transmitter as well, including carrier freq. specs. and tone decoding
specs. if the system uses that.
Duane
| 12sci.electronics |
Rick Bressler (bressler@iftccu.ca.boeing.com) wrote:
<forgot to leave in his quote source>
: >What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of
: >had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the
: >compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened.
The BATF is a part of the dept. of treasury, not justice. If they needed
to assault a place they could just do like the IRS does...call in the
federal marshalls service, their fugitive collection teams do similar type
assaults all the time. And they are very, very good about it, in both the
tactical and legal parts of it. But I suspect that the marshalls would
not have touched it, because the search warrant (which is still sealed I
believe) was so bogus.
Besides the BATF also could have gotton SWAT teams from: federal marshalls
service; FBI; secret service; national park service; texas rangers; nearby
large city police forces; the military. But they had to use their own
guys, nobody elses SWAT team was good enough for the holy cause of gun
control.
I also find the timing of the raid to be extremely interesting.
Initial raid: two days before the NJ senate was going to overturn their
"assault weapon" confiscation law; a couple weeks before the BATF's budget
was going to come up in congress for review; shortly after Reno got
confirmed as AG (I don't need to remind you about her anti-gun line);
right around the presidents 100th day in office. As a wise man once
said: once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy
action. I don't believe that these four things are conincidental. Do
you?
food for thought...
--Dale Farmer
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I need info regarding a miniscribe 3.5" half-height drive. There is a
sticker on it with the following,
MODEL HDA PCBA UNIQUE TDA
8425F 09AA 03AB 03AA -
But the sticker on the biggest chip on the MFM interface has this,
MODEL PCBA TDA
FXX 03AB
What is the spec of the drive (# of cyl, heads, etc)?
How fast is this drive? Can I use it as a RLL drive?
I also have a SCSI interface that seems to match all the connectors
for this drive. It has this description,
MODEL PCBA E-P TDA
AXX 01A 29A
Can I replace the MFM interface by the SCSI interface and use the drive
as a SCSI drive? What would the drive size be? There is a set of jumpers
on the SCSI interface with "6SEL" besides it. What is the use of it?
Could someone also send me specs for Seagate ST4096 (5" full-height) drive?
My e-mail is zhang@whbws.ms.ornl.gov
Thanks
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr25.221603.3260@Virginia.EDU>, ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
> jaa12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu writes:
> > Dear Mr. Beyer:
> >
> > It is never wise to confuse "freedom of speech" with "freedom"
> > of racism and violent deragatory."
> >
> > It is unfortunate that many fail to understand this crucial
> > distinction.
>
> In fact, if a speach was not offensive to some, its
> protection under Freedom of speach laws would be useless. It is
> speach that some find questionable that must be protected, be
> it religiously blasphemous or inherently racist. It is only
> through civilized discourse and not scare tactics that one can
> enlighten those that one perceives to be ignorant. That is the
> idea behind freedom of expression.
> What you find offensive might be perceived as truth by
> some and what they might find offensive might be your belief.
> It is only through free exchange of ideas (and insults as the
> case seems to be with this channel) that one can change
> another's erring ways.That is why Jefferson said that here
> we are not afraid to "tolerate error so long as reason is left to
> combat it".
Those who forward offensive posts to the sysadmin aren't curtailing
anyones' freedom of speech. The neo-nazi movement has a right to
make speeches, say anything they want. They do not have a right
to have these speeches published by the N.Y. Times. That depends
on the Times analysis of the economic and to somewhat extent
newsworthy value of those speeches. Likewise to the sysadmin
of this fellows system. If he feels his resources are being
used in a manner that is not in his best interests, or are
perhaps embarassing to his organization, he will act just as
the New York Times does, not to be a conduit for these ideas.
The poster is after all free-loading off of someone else's
pocket book when he posts. He who controls the purse strings
has the right to make the decision how he wants those funds
spent or not spent.
Noone is going to put the poster in jail, unless he bombs a local
building as a symbol of his hatred. Freedom of Speech in no
way equates to accessibility to conduits of information. The
market of ideas has its own "natural selection" process that
weeds out the ga-ga from the credible ideas that are of
importance.
Seth Rosenthal
Disclaimer: All opinions are my own not my employers'.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Hi!
I got hold of an old Zenith 286 Laptop with model# ZWL-183-45
The hard-disk is dead but the rest seems to work. I took the Zenith apart and found a very strange
disk for wich I now try to replace.
The disk is marked JVC, model JD3824R00-1.
Has anyone any specs. on this disk or suggestion where i can find it or a cheap replacement for it.
Thanks for your help.
-- Michael
Michael Thurbin (michael@pcmith.rks.se)
--
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Sommarvagen 1 Phone: +46 (0)47021340
S-352 37 Vaxjoe Fax: +46 (0)47048978
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In <1993Apr23.103038.27467@bnr.ca> agc@bmdhh286.bnr.ca (Alan Carter) writes:
>In article <22APR199323003578@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes:
>|> 3. On April 19, a NO-OP command was sent to reset the command loss timer to
>|> 264 hours, its planned value during this mission phase.
>This activity is regularly reported in Ron's interesting posts. Could
>someone explain what the Command Loss Timer is?
The Command Loss Timer is a timer that does just what its name says;
it indicates to the probe that it has lost its data link for receiving
commands. Upon expiration of the Command Loss Timer, I believe the
probe starts a 'search for Earth' sequence (involving antenna pointing
and attitude changes which consume fuel) to try to reestablish
communications. No-ops are sent periodically through those periods
when there are no real commands to be sent, just so the probe knows
that we haven't forgotten about it.
Hope that's clear enough to be comprehensible.
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
| 14sci.space |
In article <1993Apr16.000601.14223@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> rkim@eecg.toronto.edu (Ryan Kim) writes:
>
>Hi, maybe someone can help me here...
>I am looking to buy this 1990 Nissan Maxima GXE for CDN$14000 right now.
So its an automatic? Don't know if US spec=CDN spec. for Maximas.
>The car has 96000 km (or about 60000 miles) on it.
>A typical mileage for 1990 cars seem to be about 70000 km (or about 43K mi).
>The seller just informed me that when he brought the car in for certification
>he was told that the front break pads and the exhausts had to be replaced
>to meet the legal standards. (He said he will replace the components before
>selling the car to me.)
>
>Being copmletely ignorant to the technical stuff on cars, I don't know
>what this could mean...
>Is 96K km about the time typical for replacing the above mentioned items?
>Or is this an indication that the car was abused?
If it is the first set of brake pads on front, then this is fine. My car
eats a set every 15k miles or so. The fact that he is replacing the
muffler too is also ok.
>Would other things break down or have to be replaced soon?
The mileage is fairly low - but typical fwd stuff is CV joints. Check
the maintenance records with the manufacturers requirements for valve
adjustments, timing belt changes and so on.
The 60k mile service is often expensive, so make sure he has done everything.
>The seller told me that he used the car on the highway a lot, but,
>I don't know how to verify this... I've seen the paint chipped away
>in tiny dots in the front edge of the hood, though.
>
Well, this is one of the commonly cited methods for identifying a
car with highway miles.
Might check the gas pedal wear too. Ask him how many sets of tires he
has been through. A highway car might have squeezed by on 2 sets,
a hard driven car 6-10 sets.
>Although the Maxima is an excellent car and the car is very clean and
>well kept, it's currently out of warranty
>(a similarly priced '90 Accord with 70K km will have 2 years or 30K km
>worth of warranty left) and I don't want to worry about paying for
>any repair bills...
Well, the Maxima should be pretty reliable - but if its out of warranty
you should get it checked out by someone knowledgeable first. Stuff
for Japanese cars can be expensive.
>But, I also need a car for 5 people...
>
>When will the new Maxima come out, by the way?
1995 model year, I believe.
>
>I would very much appreciate your input in this.
>Please reply by e-mail (preferred) or post in this newsgroup.
Craig
>Thanks!
>
>Ryan
>
>
>
>========
>Ryan Kim
>University of Toronto, EECG, Computer Graphics rkim@eecg.toronto.edu
>"Do not weave between traffic cones at road works."
> - from the new British Highway Code
> (Toronto Star April 3, 1993)
>
| 7rec.autos |
I am selling Joe Montana SportsTalk Football '93 for the Genesis for 30 bucksm
which will include shipping. Firt come first some.
| 6misc.forsale |
In <1993Apr13.145325.15806@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
>In article <eldar.734672326@sfu.ca>, eldar@fraser.sfu.ca (Danny Eldar) writes:
>|>
>|> I just heard it on the radio: CKNW in Vancouver, BC. Girls are fainting in
>|> masse in Egypt. Nobody knows why, but the movement started in Nothern Egypt
>|> and spread throught all Egypt.
>|>
>|>
>|> I think that the MOSSAD, after the "obvious" involvement in WTC bombing,
>|> tries to reestablish its reputation. What better way than making Egyptian
>|> schhol-girls go bezerk.
>|>
>|> Maybe Hassan will share the light on this.
>I am happy to annouce TII's second positive identifiaction.
>Congragulations Danny.
>Hasan
As one who was born in Quebec and worked in Montreal, I feel I must
defend the reputation of McGill University. It is a fine, old,
creditable institution of higher learning.
Thus, I can only assume that some under graduate student left his/her
terminal on-line and the janitor has been getting access to it.
REB
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <C5sE5E.Coy@boi.hp.com> dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) writes:
>Ahem. See the War on Drugs, as sponsored by the Bush and Reagan
>administrations. The precedent had well been set for federal agencies to
>step on more than a few of what people consider "rights." I won't make
>excuses for anyone, but most of the damage had been done before Clinton
>even entered the race in '92.
Not to mention last year's Weaver affair.
Anyway, here's how I see the Waco affair; I'd be interested in other peoples'
interpretations...
1. Koresh and his people were basically minding their own business.
2. Some weapons violations may have been committed and I wouldn't have
disapproved of prosecuting him for those violations. However, I think
the BATF was criminal for starting negotiations with a military style
assault and for firing into a house where there were children and other
noncombatants.
3. I don't see they couldn't just leave a token guard on the place and wait
the BDs out; I don't approve of the tear gas approach and, if it caused
the fire to be started, I think the FBI agent responsible should spend
10-20 years in jail.
4. However, if Koresh's response to the tear gas was to kill everyone there,
I hold him largely responsible for their deaths.
don
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1f2P02UA40zB01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose) writes:
>Capser, before you deceive everone into thinking that the latter-day
>saints have undergone undue persecution through the years for just
>believing in their religion, perhaps you would like to tell us all what
>happened in the Mountain Meadow Massacres and all the killings that were
>done under the Blood Atonement Doctrine, at the command of Brigham Young?
I recently watched a an episode of "The Old West" a TV show on the
Discovery Channel (or perhaps the A&E Network), the one hosted by Kenny
Rogers. This episode was all about the Mormons and how they settled Utah,
etc.
A large portion of the broadcast was about the "Mountain Meadows Massacre".
The program very specifically pointed out that Brigham Young knew nothing
about the incident until long after it had happened (before telegraph), and
it occured as a result of several men inciting a bunch of paronoid Moromn
settlers into what amounted to a mob. All participants in the incident were
prosecuted and eccomunicated from the LDS Church.
I suggest you watch a rerun of that episode (they play them over and over)
and see what they (non-Mormons) have to say about it.
Lance
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| "Ye shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall make you free." |
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr19.171938.17930@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jil@donuts0.uucp (Jamie Lubin) writes:
> In article <19671@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
> >In article <C5E2G7.877@world.std.com> rsilver@world.std.com (Richard Silver) writes:
> >>
> >>Is there a right-eye dominance (eyedness?) as there is an
> >>overall right-handedness in the population? I mean do most
> >>people require less lens corrections for the one eye than the
> >>other? If so, what kinds of percentages can be attached to this?
> >
> >There is eye dominance same as handedness (and usually for the
> >same side). It has nothing to do with refractive error, however.
>
> I recall reading/seeing that former baseball star Chris Chambliss' hitting
> abilities were (in part) attributed to a combination of left-handedness &
> right-eye dominance.
I was part of a study a few years ago at the University of Arizona to
see whether cross dominant individuals (those with a particular handedness
but who had dominance in the opposite eye) were better hitters than
those with same side dominance of hand and eye. I was picked from
my softball class because I was cross dominant (right hand, left eye)
which put me in a small minority (and the grad student was trying to get
an equal number of cross dominant and same side dominant people). To
control the study, she used a pitching machine - fast pitch. Since
I was used to slow pitch, I didn't come close (actually I think
I foul tipped a few) to hitting the ball. If there were a lot of people
like me in her study (i.e., those who can't hit fast pitch, or are
not used to hitting off a machine), I would seriously question the
results of that study!! I think there have been some studies of major
league players (across a fairly large cross section of players) to test
whether eye dominance being the same or opposite side was "better" -
but I don't know the results. (The woman who ran the study I was in
said that there was a higher incidence of crossdominance in major
leaguers than across the general population - but I'm not sure
whether I'd believe her.)
Janice Rathmann
| 13sci.med |
I am wondering how to change the English fonts in an existed
API to some multi-bytes fonts ? (such as Chinese, Japanese...)
Someone told me X11R5 supports some internationalization
features, but I cannot find any examples for my need. Is there
anybody has done some similar jobs ?
By the way, all the English fonts should be replace by Chinese or
Japanese fonts, that means in windows, menubar, button....
That will be great if someone can share us what you have done.
Thanks in advance.
M.C. Hung
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C5wIqr.1Bz@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com> max@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com (Max Webb) writes:
>In article <1qm36b$gn2@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>>In article <1qktj3$bn9@squick.eitech.com> ekr@squick.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>>#In article <1qkn1t$59l@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>>#>In article <1qk1pp$6hj@kyle.eitech.com> ekr@kyle.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>>#> If one follows relativism to the letter, then, the theories
>>#>and predictions which are the results of science can only be subjectively
>>#>valued as 'objective', 'correct', or anything else.
>>#Twaddle. You're overloading the meaning of the word "value",
>>#that's all. Whether I care if the results are true is a "value".
>>#I fail to see how whether they are true (correct, whatever) is
>>#a value.
>>
>>The result's actual truth is independent of what you think of it, if you
>>care to look at it that way - however your perception of a result's
>>truth cannot match its actual truth, unless you care to follow the (a?)
>>procedure to obtain truth ("science") correctly. You have to pick
>>the right procedure, and note its importance. You've got to value it.
>>Otherwise you don't care about actual truth, and shouldn't object
>>to the statement "objectivism is true".
>
>Non-sequitur. Humans do math, because they value what math can do.
>That does not mean that math is based on values - unless you claim
>that computers (or even unconstructed physical systems) which instantiate
>mathematical systems also are based on values.
The point is that when we recognize these "instantiations" of mathematical
systems, we do so because we VALUE being able to describe and perhaps even
to control these instantiations. There is always a driving purpose behind
thought -- a motive, if you will. Sometimes that motive is relatively
"pure", e.g. pursuit of knowledge, othertimes it's "impure", e.g. pursuit
of money, or of physical pleasure. But it's always there. And even when it
is a "pure" pursuit of knowledge, presumably one pursues knowledge in order
to personally grow, develop, advance to a higher plane of being. So there
is still an element of acquisition, of reaching, of grasping, even in the
approach of the "detached, objective" scientist.
>>Now if we're valuing procedures subjectively, and science is a procedure,
>>science cannot be valued non-subjectively. If we're picking facts
>>and hypotheses subjectively, then we are using a maybe-not-quite-sure
>>method on maybe-not-quite-sure observations. That should lead
>>to maybe-not-quite-sure results, no? The fact that it does not seem
>>to might make one question the premise, which is that our subjective
>>valuations are necessarily unreliable.
>
>>O.K., which DES? The abstract function DES? that stops working in any
>>important sense if no-one cares for the importance of truth, mathematics,
>>meaning, information, etc. A DES chip or DES s/w? That stops working in any
>>important sense if no-one values science, objective reality, etc. DES
>>does not work in a value vacuum. Nothing else does, either.
>
>The D.E.S. chip works just fine, even if I don't know that it exists.
>You are confusing _why we are using the chip_ with _the chip works_.
>They aren't the same.
No, I think you are the one who is rather confused. There are two senses
in which we can say that the phenomenon of "the working of the DES chip" is
value-based:
1) Because there is bound to be some reason why we built the DES
chip and started it running in the first place
and
2) Because the very notion/definition/concept of "works" has value
associated with it
The first is a CAUSAL linkage -- we want it to work, therefore we CAUSE it to
work. That is rather a mundane interpretation. The second, however, is a more
subtle and deeper PHENOMENOLOGICAL linkage -- that the attribute "works" is
itself, as everything else, presented to the human consciousness as a _valued_
fact, not just a fact-in-itself. You are perhaps justified in shooting down
the causal linkage, but you have not begun to address the phenomenological
linkage.
>Suns in unpopulated solar systems shine without being blessed by your
>values.
Our predictions or confirmations that suns shine in unpopulated solar systems
are, however, items of value.
>Genetic algorithms (closely related to the scientific method)
>can work without intervention of any kind.
Again, our predictions or confirmations of the working of genetic algorithms
are items of value.
>Your claim is without merit;
>the universe does not depend on human values, any more than it
>revolves around earth.
The universe does not DEPEND on human values, no, but our experience and
understanding and concepts of the universe _are_ laced with human values.
Phenomenologically, everything is value-related, since the thing which is
experiencing the phenomena, i.e. self, is itself value-driven. Self is, in
fact, the very SOURCE of all values. Whatever involves self involves values.
- Kevin
| 0alt.atheism |
I have a problem with the battery on my '83 Honda CB650 NightHawk.
Every week or so it is dead and I have to recharge it. I ride the bike
every day, the battery is new and the charging system was checked
thoroughly and it seems fine. My suspicion is that it is draining
somewhere.
Do you have any idea about what is causing this problem?
Please help since my mechanic and me are clueless!...
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
Here is a press release from the White House.
President Clinton's Remarks On Waco With Q/A
To: National Desk
Contact: White House Office of the Press Secretary, 202-456-2100
WASHINGTON, April 20 -- Following are remarks by President
Clinton in a question and answer session with the press:
1:36 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: On February the 28th, four federal
agents were killed in the line of duty trying to enforce the law
against the Branch Davidian compound, which had illegally stockpiled
weaponry and ammunition, and placed innocent children at risk.
Because the BATF operation had failed to meet its objective, a 51-day
standoff ensued.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation then made every
reasonable effort to bring this perilous situation to an end without
bloodshed and further loss of life. The Bureau's efforts were
ultimately unavailing because the individual with whom they were
dealing, David Koresh, was dangerous, irrational, and probably
insane.
He engaged in numerous activities which violated both
federal law and common standards of decency. He was, moreover,
responsible for the deaths and injuries which occurred during the
action against the compound in February. Given his inclination
towards violence and in an effort to protect his young hostages, no
provocative actions were taken for more than seven weeks by federal
agents against the compound.
This weekend I was briefed by Attorney General Reno on
an operation prepared by the FBI, designed to increase pressure on
Koresh and persuade those in the compound to surrender peacefully.
The plan included a decision to withhold the use of ammunition, even
in the face of fire, and instead to use tear gas that would not cause
permanent harm to health, but would, it was hoped, force the people
in the compound to come outside and to surrender.
I was informed of the plan to end the siege. I
discussed it with Attorney General Reno. I asked the questions I
thought it was appropriate for me to ask. I then told her to do what
she thought was right, and I take full responsibility for the
implementation of the decision.
Yesterday's action ended in a horrible human tragedy.
Mr. Koresh's response to the demands for his surrender by federal
agents was to destroy himself and murder the children who were his
captives, as well as all the other people who were there who did not
survive. He killed those he controlled, and he bears ultimate
responsibility for the carnage that ensued.
Now we must review the past with an eye towards the
future. I have directed the United Stated Departments of Justice and
Treasury to undertake a vigorous and thorough investigation to
uncover what happened and why, and whether anything could have been
dne differently. I have told the departments to involve independent
professional law enforcement officials in the investigation. I
expect to receive analysis and answers in whatever time is required
to complete the review. Finally, I have directed the departments to
cooperate fully with all congressional inquiries so that we can
continue to be fully accountable to the American people.
I want to express my appreciation to the Attorney
General, to the Justice Department, and to the federal agents on the
front lines who did the best job they could under deeply difficult
circumstances.
Again, I want to say as I did yesterday, I am very sorry
for the loss of life which occurred at the beginning and at the end
of this tragedy in Waco. I hope very much that others who will be
tempted to join cults and to become involved with people like David
Koresh will be deterred by the horrible scenes they have seen over
the last seven weeks. And I hope very much that the difficult
situations which federal agents confronted there and which they will
be doubtless required to confront in other contexts in the future
will be somewhat better handled and better understood because of what
has been learned now.
Q Mr. President, can you, first of all, tell us why,
after 51 days, you decided --
Q Mr. President, can you describe for us what it is
that Janet Reno outlined to you in your 15-minute phone conversation
with --
THE PRESIDENT: I can't hear you both. If one will go
first and then the other.
Q Sorry. Can you describe what Janet Reno --
Q Mr. President --
THE PRESIDENT: I'll answer both your questions, but I
can't do it at once.
Q Can you describe what she told you on Sunday about
the nature of the operation and how much detail you knew about it?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. I was told by the Attorney General
that the FBI strongly felt that the time had come to take another
step in trying to dislodge the people in the compound. And she
described generally what the operation would be -- that they wanted
to go in and use tear gas which had been tested not to cause
permanent damage to adults or to children, but which would make it
very difficult for people to stay inside the building. And it was
hoped that the tear gas would permit them to come outside.
I was further told that under no circumstances would our
people fire any shots at them even if fired upon. They were going to
shoot the tear gas from armored vehicles which would protect them and
there would be no exchange of fire. In fact, as you know, an awful
lot of shots were fired by the cult members at the federal officials.
There were no shots coming back from the government side.
I asked a number of questions. The first question I
asked is, why now? We have waited seven weeks; why now? The reasons
I was given were the following:
Number one, that there was a limit to how long the
federal authorities could maintain with their limited resources the
quality and intensity of coverage by experts there. They might be
needed in other parts of the country.
Number two, that the people who had reviewed this had
never seen a case quite like this one before, and they were convinced
that no progress had been made recently and no progress was going to
be made through the normal means of getting Koresh and the other cult
members to come out.
Number three, that the danger of their doing something
to themselves or to others was likely to increase, not decrease, with
the passage of time.
And number four, that they had reason to believe that
the children who were still inside the compound were being abused
significantly, as well as being forced to live in unsanitary and
unsafe conditions.
So for those reasons, they wanted to move at that time.
The second question I asked the Attorney General is whether they had
given consideration to all of the things that could go wrong and
evaluated them against what might happen that was good. She said
that the FBI personnel on the scene and those working with them were
convinced that the chances of bad things happening would only
increase with the passage of time.
The third question I asked was, has the military been
consulted? As soon as the initial tragedy came to light in Waco,
that's the first thing I asked to be done, because it was obvious
that this was not a typical law enforcement situation. Military
people were then brought in, helped to analyze the situation and some
of the problems that were presented by it. And so I asked if the
military had been consulted. The Attorney General said that they
had, and that they were in basic agreement that there was only one
minor tactical difference of opinion between the FBI and the military
-- something that both sides thought was not of overwhelming
significance.
Having asked those questions and gotten those answers, I
said that if she thought it was the right thing to do, that she
should proceed and that I would support it. And I stand by that
today.
Q Mr. President --
THE PRESIDENT: Wait. Go ahead.
Q Can you address the widespread perception --
reported widely, television, radio and newspapers -- that you were
trying somehow to distance yourself from this disaster?
THE PRESIDENT: No, I'm bewildered by it. The only
reason I made no public statement yesterday -- let me say -- the only
reason I made no public statement yesterday is that I had nothing to
add to what was being said and I literally did not know until rather
late in the day whether anybody was still alive other than those who
had been actually seen and taken to the hospital or taken into
custody. It was purely and simply a question of waiting for events
to unfold.
There was -- I have -- I can't account for why people
speculated one way or the other, but I talked to the Attorney General
on the day before the action took place. I talked to her yesterday.
I called her again late last night after she appeared on the Larry
King Show, and I talked to her again this morning. A President -- it
is not possible for a President to distance himself from things that
happen when the federal government is in control.
I will say this, however. I was, frankly, surprised
would be a mild word, to say that anyone that would suggest that the
Attorney General should resign because some religious fanatics
murdered themselves. (Applause.)
I regret what happened, but it is not possible in this
life to control the behavior of others in every circumstance. These
people killed four federal officials in the line of duty. They were
heavily armed. They fired on federal officials yesterday repeatedly,
and they were never fired back on. We did everything we could to
avoid the loss of life. They made the decision to immolate
themselves. And I regret it terribly, and I feel awful about the
children.
But in the end, the last comment I had from Janet Reno,
is when -- and I talked to her on Sunday -- I said, now, I want you
to tell me once more why you believe -- not why they believe -- why
you believe we should move now rather than wait some more. And she
said, it's because of the children. They have evidence that those
children are still being abused and that they're in increasingly
unsafe conditions, and that they don't think it will get any easier
with time -- with the passage of time. I have to take their word for
that. So that is where I think things stand.
Q Can we assume then that you don't think this was
mishandled in view of the outcome, that you didn't run out of
patience? And if you had it to do over again, would you really
decide that way?
THE PRESIDENT: No -- well, I think what you can assume
is just exactly what I announced today. This is a -- the FBI has
done a lot of things right for this country over a long period of
time. This is the same FBI that found the people that bombed the
World Trade Center in lickety-split, record time. We want an inquiry
to analyze the steps along the way. Is there something else we
should have known? Is there some other question they should have
asked? Is there some other question I should have asked? Can I say
for sure that no one -- that we could have done nothing else to make
the outcome come different? I don't know that. That's why I want
the inquiry and that's why I would like to make sure that we have
some independent law enforcement people, not political people, but
totally non-political, outside experts who can bring to bear the best
evidence we have.
There is, unfortunately, a rise in this sort of
fanaticism all across the world. And we may have to confront it
again. And I want to know whether there is anything we can do,
particularly when there are children involved. But I do think it is
important to recognize that the wrong-doers in this case were the
people who killed others and then killed themselves.
Q Mr. President, were there any other options
presented to you for resolving this situation at any point from
February 28th until yesterday?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, yes, I got regular reports all
along the way. There were lots of other options pursued. If you go
back -- you all covered it very well. The FBI -- you did a very good
job of it. I mean, the FBI and the other authorities there pursued
any number of other options all along the way, and a lot of them
early on seemed to be working. Some of the children got out, some of
the other people left. There was a -- at one point, there seemed to
be some lines of communication opening up between Koresh and the
authorities. And then he would say things and not do them and things
just began to spin downward.
Whether there were other -- in terms of what happened
yesterday, the conversation I had with the Attorney General did not
involve other options except whether we should take more time with
the present strategy we were pursuing -- because they said they
wanted to do this, because they thought this was the best way to get
people out of the compound quickly before they could kill themselves.
That's what they thought.
Q Did the government know that the children did not
have gas masks?
Q congressional hearings once the situation -- are
you in agreement with that?
THE PRESIDENT: That's up to the Congress. They can do
whatever they want. But I think it's very important that the
Treasury and Justice Departments launch this investigation and bring
in some outside experts. And as I said in my statement, if any
congressional committees want to look into it, we will fully
cooperate. There is nothing to hide here. This was probably the
most well-covered operation of its kind in the history of the
country.
(more, more)
-30-
| 16talk.politics.guns |
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Another guess to your salvation riddle would be "saved".
Joe Fisher
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Message-ID: <1993Apr15.174657.6176@news.uiowa.edu> Mr.Napoleon responds:
*******************************************************
********************* TO MR. NAPOLEON******************
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> Well, Panos, Mr. Tamamidis?, the way you put it it is only the Turks
> who bear the responsibility of the things happening today. That is hard to
> believe for somebody trying to be objective.
> When it comes to conflicts like our countries having you cannot
> blame one side only, there always are bad guys on both sides.
> What were you doing on Anatolia after the WW1 anyway?
> Do you think it was your right to be there?
** There were a couple millions of Greeks living in Asia Minor
**until 1923 Someone had to protect them. If not us who??
Is that so? or you were taking advantage of weakness of ottoman
empire to grab some land. As soon as you got green lights from
allied forces, you occupied Izmir and other cities in western
Turkey. You killed and raped millions people without any reason.
Of course, you paid the price. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk made
you swim in aegean sea but not far enough. Your aggressions thru
Turkey at anytime in the past did not get you any reward and shall
not get you anywhere.
> I am not saying that conflicts started with that. It is only
> not one side being the aggressive and the ither always suffering.
> It is sad that we (both) still are not trying to compromise.
> I remember the action of the Turkish government by removing the
> visa requirement for greeks to come to Turkey. I thought it
> was a positive attempt to make the relations better.
>
**Compromise on what, the invasion of Cyprus, the involment of Turkey in
**Greek politics, the refusal of Turkey to accept 12 miles of territorial
**waters as stated by international law, the properties of the Greeks of
**Konstantinople, the ownership of the islands in the Greek lake,sorry, Aegean.
What compromise are you talking about on Cyprus. That is not Greece
business to join the island to Greece. That is up to people in the island
to live or not to live together. They made their decision and they are
living separetely now.There is a peace there. Greeks can't slaughter
Turks anymore because turkish peacemaking force is there.
Your dream will never come true. 12 mile territorialwater!!!!
Are you joking or dreaming? We can declare our 12 miles territorial
water which can come close to Athens. How would you like it?
If you have any guts why don't you shoot at some Turkish ships
in your dream 12 mile territorial waters?
We do not have any city called Konstantinople. We have a city
called ISTANBUL!!!! All the greeks in Istanbul are being
treated just any other Turks. There is no difference among people
in Turkey. You look at your own backyard first before talking
about human rights in Turkey. What are the rights of Turks in Greece?
Nothing. They do not even have basic human rights like right to
have property, fredom of religion, fredom of press, fredom of
vote elect their community leaders. Government of Greece publicly
encourages people to destroy and burn schools, religious places,
houses, and farms belong to turkish minority. Then, Greek government
forces these minorities to go to Turkey without anything with them.
You will dream to see Aegean sea as Greek lake but it will never
happen. Think about the war between Turkey and Greece in 1915.
The river called SAKARYA flood 21 days filled with blood in 1915.
> The Greeks I mentioned who wouldn't talk to me are educated
> people. They have never met me but they know! I am bad person
> because I am from Turkey. Politics is not my business, and it is
> not the business of most of the Turks. When it comes to individuals
> why the hatred?
**Any person who supports the policies of the Turkish goverment
**directly or indirecly is a "bad" person.
**It is not your nationality that makes you bad, it is your support
**of the actions of your goverment that make you "bad".
**People do not hate you because of who you are but because of what you
**are. You are a supporter of the policies of the Turkish goverment and
**as a such you must pay the price.
You mean that any person who supports the actions and policies of the
government of Greece is a good person. That is your Greek idea to
say Turks are bad people. We know who we are and proud to be TURKS
anywhere in the world. That is not Greeks business to tell us what
kind of people we are. You are not at position to judge people because
you are not civilized enough to give equal rights to your own minorities.
Millions of minorities are being treated as third class citizen,
their rights are taken away from them, and they have no voices under
the Government of Greece. They are almost being treated as slaves
even though we are getting into 21th century. Therefore, do not make me
laught at you.
> So that makes me think that there is some kind of
> brainwashing going on in Greece. After all why would an educated person
> treat every person from a nation the same way? can you tell me about your
> history books and things you learn about Greek-Turkish
> encounters during your schooling.
> take it easy!
**You do not need brainwashing to turn people against the Turks.Just
**as Greeks, Arats, Slavs, Kurds and all other people who had
**the luck to be under Turkish occupation.
**They will talk to you about murders,rapes,distruction.
**You do not learn about Turks from history books, you learn about
**them from people who experienced first hand Turkish friendliness.
The Government of Greece is actively supporting terrorism against
Turkey.Armenian and Kurdish terrorists have headquarters in Athens.
They are being trained in special camps in Greece. They are taught how to
kill innocent women and children.This not a claim, this is a fact known
by whole world. In conlusion, you are in action to murder, rape,
destroy the innocent people. I do not take you seriously because you
are not at any positions to talk about human rights and dignity.
Your own government, the Government of Greece actively supports
atrocities in Bosnia. Serbs's Barbarism pleases your government.
Please Napoleon think twice before you write anything about Turks and
Turkey. You are the worst in human right conditions and treatment of
the minorities. Who wants to be a fried with someone whose government
does not respect the human rights, supports terrorism in Turkey,barbaric
actions in Bosnia, treats Turkish minorities as third class citizen and
take away all of their rights, treating them as slaves at the beginning
of 21th century???????
Aykut Atalay Atakan
Napoleon
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In rec.motorcycles, bean@ra.cgd.ucar.edu (Gregory Bean) writes:
>Help! I've got a friend shopping for her first motorcycle. This is great!
>Unfortunately, she needs at most a 28" seat. This is not great. So far,
>the only thing we've found was an old and unhappy-looking KZ440.
I had a kz440 and thought it was the best $100 bike I've ever
ridden. And mind you, I've ridden many bikes.
>I seem to remember a thread with a point similar to this passing through
>several months ago. Did anybody keep that list?
You must be mistaken. No thread in this group has ever had a point.
Seriously, there are many 'short' bikes out there. What style bike
and how much money does she have. My SO is 5'3" and rides her CB1
or my hawk GT with ease. Most cruisers are low slung. YSR50's are
real short too.
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Does anyone know of an X-based terminal emulator which can
emulate a color tektronics graphics terminal such as
TEK 4105 or TEK 4107, etc?
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Hi, I'm posting this for a friend. Please direct all replys to his email
address listed below. Thanks
For Sale
'90 VW Jetta GL
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Asking $6900.
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Ron Mastus (ronaldm@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU) wrote:
> I've just replaced my existing DTC SCSI controller with an Adaptec 1542B,
> and am now having trouble restoring from a Jumbo 250 tape drive.
Here's a document that I wrote some time back. It's slightly
out-of-date, now that DOS 6 has been released, but much of it is still
useful.
-- Darryl Okahata
Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com
DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not
constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the
little green men that have been following him all day.
===============================================================================
$Id: adaptec.txt 1.8 1993/01/25 00:55:08 darrylo Rel darrylo $
Hints and Tips for the Adaptec 1540/1542 SCSI adapter
This document contains hints and tips for getting the Adaptec
1540/1542 SCSI adapter to work with various hardware and software
packages. They are based upon my experiences with an Adaptec 1542A
controller, and will, hopefully, help others. However, note that I
cannot guarantee that the following will really help you (it works for
me), and the information in this document could possibly cause you to
lose some or all of your files on your hard disk.
IMPORTANT! BACK UP THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF YOUR HARD DISK BEFORE
TRYING ANYTHING BASED UPON INFORMATION IN THIS DOCUMENT.
Copyright 1993, by Darryl Okahata. This document may be freely
copied for personal use only, and may not be reprinted in a for-profit
publication without the consent of the author. Please note that I have
no connection with Adaptec other than as a customer.
Topics covered in this document:
* Windows 3.1 enhanced mode
* Floppy-controller-based tape backup devices
* Sound cards
* Miscellaneous info
Please note that parts of this document contain technical, and
sometimes terse, descriptions of problems.
For reference:
Adaptec technical support: (800) 959-7274
Adaptec BBS (2400/9600): (408) 945-7727
Please send comments, corrections, etc. via email to me:
CompuServe: 75206,3074
Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com
***** Windows 3.1 enhanced mode:
The Windows 3.1 install program should automatically configure DOS
and Windows for use with the Adaptec 1542. However, just in case
something went wrong, I'm going to describe some of the changes needed
to get Windows 3.1 working with the 1542. Also, you may have noticed
that installing Windows 3.1 makes your PC run much slower, even when
you're not running Windows; methods of speeding it up are discussed in
the section called, "Windows 3.1 runs slowly".
* MSDOS configuration:
The Windows install program adds the SmartDrive disk cache to your
CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files. If you follow the instructions,
you'll notice that you'll need to use double-buffering with SmartDrive
(this is the default setup). You'll also notice that your system runs
much, much slower -- in both Windows *AND* MSDOS. See the section
called, "Windows 3.1 runs slowly", for some ways of speeding your system
up.
* Windows configuration:
To get the Adaptec 1542 to work with Windows, make sure that the
"[388Enh]" section of the SYSTEM.INI file contains the entry:
VirtualHDIRQ=Off
I believe that the Windows install program automatically adds this entry
to SYSTEM.INI, but I'm not sure. If this doesn't work for you, you
might want to try adding some more lines:
VirtualHDIRQ=Off
SystemROMBreakPoint=false
EMMExclude=A000-CFFF
(You probably don't need the above lines, though.) The
"SystemROMBreakPoint" entry is used to enable support for memory
managers like QEMM/386MAX (only needed if you use such programs).
* Windows 3.1 runs slowly:
Once you do get Windows 3.1 running with the 1542, chances are that
your system is running much slower than before. If it's not, it's
probably because:
1. You happen to be using ASPI4DOS.SYS version 3.1 in your
CONFIG.SYS file. Congratulations -- this appears to be a
winning solution.
2. You are very lucky. Whether your luck will hold out remains to
be seen ....
If your system is running much slower than before, this is almost
definitely caused by Smartdrive with double-buffering. According to the
Windows documentation, and the Microsoft technical note #Q81808
("SMARTDrive Double Buffering Required with ASPI4DOS.SYS"), you must use
Smartdrive with double-buffering enabled. While this works, it really
slows down your PC; I once estimated that this slowed my PC down by a
factor of 5 (FIVE). As I consider this unacceptable, I looked for other
solutions.
Unfortunately, you cannot just disable double-buffering. If you
do, Windows 3.1 in enhanced mode will not work, and you might even
destroy the contents of your hard disk by trying to run Windows 3.1.
What you can do is one of the following:
1. Use other drivers that provide double-buffering. It is my
opinion that the unbelievable slowness in Smartdrive is caused
either by horribly inefficient double-buffering, or by a bug in
Smartdrive.
2. Use a driver that provides "VDS" services ("VDS" stands for
"Virtual DMA Services"). This is a standard, which is supported
by Windows 3.1, that allows bus-mastering disk controllers (like
the 1542) to work with Windows.
After trashing my hard disk countless times, I found the following
solutions, none of which require using Smartdrive (note, however, that I
am now getting occasional parity errors, which are probably *NOT* caused
by these solutions, but might be -- see below). While the following
does not require Smartdrive, using some kind of disk cache utility is
strongly recommended, as this makes Windows run much, much faster:
1. If you do not have the ASPI4DOS.SYS driver, or you do not need ASPI
functions (for controlling a CDROM, tape drive, more than two
physical hard disks, etc.), you can add the SCSIHA.SYS driver to your
CONFIG.SYS file, e.g.:
DRIVER=c:\SCSIHA.SYS /V386
(Windows needs the "/V386" option.) This driver MUST be loaded into
LOW memory (it cannot be loaded into high memory), and it occupies
about 16-20K. As of November 1992, the SCSIHA.SYS driver could be
obtained from the Adaptec BBS at (408)-945-7727 (hopefully, it's
still there).
2. If you need ASPI functions and have the ASPI4DOS.SYS driver, version
3.0 or 3.0a, you can use both the ASPI4DOS.SYS and SCSIHA.SYS drivers
in your CONFIG.SYS file, e.g.:
DRIVER=c:\ASPI4DOS.SYS
DRIVER=c:\SCSIHA.SYS /V386
Amazingly enough, the SCSIHA.SYS driver can also be loaded high
(assuming you have DOS 5.0); I would have thought that this would
crash my system, but it doesn't. I asked Adaptec's technical support
about this, and they said that loading SCSIHA.SYS high should be fine
as long as ASPI4DOS.SYS is loaded LOW.
On my system, NOT using SCSIHA.SYS with ASPI4DOS 3.0a would
occasionally cause Windows 3.1 to crash upon restarting or exiting
Windows, with the additional result of a corrupted disk (some of my
C:\WINDOWS\*.GRP files would be corrupted). For me, these crashes
usually occurred while making a different program from PROGMAN.EXE
the default Windows shell, and vice-versa. This is the reason
SCSIHA.SYS may be necessary.
I have absolutely no idea if SCSIHA.SYS is necessary with versions of
ASPI4DOS earlier than 3.0.
Note that many people can use ASPI4DOS 3.0 or 3.0a without
SCSIHA.SYS; they do not seem to have any problems at all. I consider
these people lucky. Others, like me, have had all sorts of problems.
3. In my opinion, the best, but not necessarily the easiest, solution is
to upgrade to ASPI4DOS 3.1. The SCSIHA.SYS driver is no longer
needed. Unfortunately, while you could get previous ASPI4DOS
upgrades from the Adaptec BBS, the ASPI4DOS 3.1 driver is not
available from the Adaptec BBS. As far as I know, there are only
three ways to get a copy:
* You can buy the new (as of November 1992) Adaptec EZ SCSI driver
kit, which supposedly includes ASPI4DOS 3.1 as well as other
drivers, such as CDROM drivers. I believe the list price is
around $75.
* If you already have a copy of an older version of ASPI4DOS, you
can supposedly contact Adaptec to upgrade it to EZ SCSI for
around $30.
* A copy of ASPI4DOS 3.1 is included in Central Point PC Tools 8.0
for MSDOS. Note that the documentation and driver are stored in
different directories. Note further that only ASPI4DOS is
included; the CDROM drivers and drivers to support more than two
hard disks are not included. This is where I obtained my copy
of ASPI4DOS 3.1.
Note, however, that I am now getting occasional parity errors with
Windows. In all probability, defective hardware in my PC is causing
this, as I upgraded my motherboard just after I found the above
solutions. However, because these parity errors occur only during disk
accesses, there is a very small, but definite, possibility that the
parity errors are driver-related (for example, changing the bus on/off
timing for certain disk transfers might cause this). I've run various
memory tests for hours at a time, and these tests have found no
problems. This problem is probably caused by memory with marginal
timing requirements, which cause parity errors during disk transfers
(this is why the memory tests didn't find any problems -- the problems
show up only under disk I/O). However, I'm mentioning this just in case
it isn't a hardware problem.
***** Floppy-controller-based tape backup devices:
There are two possible problems with using the Adaptec 1542 with a
floppy-controller-based tape backup device, such as the Colorado Memory
Systems Jumbo 250:
1. Tape backups/restores can take a very long time. The tape drive
constantly starts, stops, starts, stops, etc.
2. Tape operations may be erratic, or encounter too many tape errors.
(This problem might be caused by defective hardware on my 1542.
However, I've heard of other people having similar problems, and so
I'm mentioning this just in case it is not a hardware problem on my
1542.)
* Tape backups/restores take a long time:
If you have a floppy-controller-based tape backup device, you may
have to adjust the Adaptec 1540/1542 "bus on/off timing" for best
results when using the tape drive. Normally, while doing a tape backup
or restore, the tape drive motor should be continuously running, with
only an occasional pause. However, the default bus timing on the
Adaptec 1540/1542 may cause the tape drive motor to start and stop,
start and stop, every few seconds. This causes needless wear to the
tape and tape drive (however, note that a dirty tape head or a defective
tape drive can also cause this -- make sure your tape heads are clean).
This also causes the tape backup or restore to take much, much longer
than necessary.
The problem here is that these tape backups use the floppy DMA to
transfer data in memory to/from the tape drive, and the Adaptec uses DMA
to transfer data in memory to/from the hard disk. The floppy DMA needs
to feed data to the tape drive at a certain rate; if the tape drive is
not fed data quickly enough by the floppy DMA, the tape drive stops,
rewinds a bit, and restarts (once enough data is eventually fed to it).
The default bus timing on the Adaptec (which is really DMA timing) is
"too large". For example, when a backup is done, data has to be
transferred from a hard disk to memory, and then from memory to the
tape. Because the default timing on the Adaptec "hogs" the memory too
much (too much time is spent transferring data from a hard disk to
memory), not enough time is spent transferring data from memory to the
tape drive. As a result, the tape drive constantly starts and stops,
because data is not fed to it quickly enough.
The solution is to change the Adaptec's bus on/off timing. The
default factory setting is 11 microseconds on, and 5 microseconds off.
The "bus on" timing needs to be lowered to 2-4 microseconds. This can
be done in one of two ways:
* If you have ASPI4DOS, you can use the "/n" option. For example, I use
a "bus on" timing of 4 microseconds, which means that I use the
following line in my CONFIG.SYS file:
DEVICE=c:\aspi4dos.sys /n4
Note that there is NO space between the "/n" and the "4".
* If you don't have ASPI4DOS, your only recourse is to try to find a
program called "SETSCSI.EXE", which is very difficult to find. The
reason is that Adaptec, for reasons of their own, does not seem to
want this widely distributed. I once asked someone who worked for
Adaptec, and they asked me to not upload it anywhere. If you have
anonymous ftp access to the Internet, you could try using archie to
hunt down a copy; I believe that there are a couple of sites that have
it. If you do find a copy, you run it like so:
setscsi -n:4
This adjusts the "bus on" timing to 4 microseconds. Running
SETSCSI.EXE without any arguments resets the bus timing back to the
factory defaults.
Note that it seems that you cannot use SETSCSI.EXE if you use
ASPI4DOS; SETSCSI.EXE crashed my system if ASPI4DOS was loaded. I
could use SETSCSI.EXE with SCSIHA.SYS, however.
Do not lower the "bus on" timing below 2 microseconds, or increase it
above 11 microseconds. If you lower it too low, the hard disk
throughput will suddenly drop; your system will feel slower. For me, 4
microseconds works fine. This value may work fine for you, or you may
have to adjust it downwards a little.
Once you've lowered the "bus on" timing, tape backups and restores
should run faster.
Also, do not experiment with the bus on/off times (with the other
options that I have intentionally not described), unless you know what
you are doing. Bad combinations can cause parity errors and worse, by
starving memory refresh.
A program called BUSTIFIX.EXE exists on the Adaptec BBS. Unless
this has been upgraded since I last checked (which has been a while),
this is a self-extracting archive containing a batch file and a couple
of other files. This batch file was supposed to allow one to set the
bus on/off times for the 1540/1542 and others. However, when I tried
running this program with my 1542A, my system crashed. At the time, I
was running SCSIHA.SYS, and I didn't check to see if there was a
conflict with it. Maybe this old program works only with the 1542B,
although the docs say that it works with the 1542A?
* Erratic tape operations or too many tape errors:
This "problem" may or may not exist. Although it existed on my
system, a hardware problem just on my particular 1542 could cause it.
However, I've heard of other people having similar problems, and so I'm
mentioning this just in case it isn't a hardware problem just on my
1542.
Symptoms of this "problem", which persists even after cleaning the
tape head:
1. Backing up to tape encounters "unusable sector detected" errors,
resulting in an aborted tape backup.
2. Tape backup works, but the tape compare fails.
3. The tape drive starts, stops, starts, stops, etc. much too often.
Unlike the above-mentioned problem ("Tape backups/restores take a
long time"), where the tape drive starts and stops every few seconds,
this kind of starting/stopping occurs every few 10-20 seconds or so.
4. Fastback Plus 3.1 does not find/see any tape backup devices. Other
programs, like Central Point Backup and the CMS Jumbo software
(assuming that you have a CMS Jumbo 250 tape drive) can find/see the
tape drive, but Fastback Plus 3.1 cannot.
5. Too many tape read errors.
Although I do not know what is causing this problem, I discovered
that using a different floppy controller solves it. A few months ago, I
upgraded my motherboard, which contained an integrated floppy
controller. As I already had a floppy controller on the 1542, I
initially disabled the motherboard floppy controller. After a while, I
decided to try disabling the 1542 floppy controller and using the one on
the motherboard. When I did this, the tape drive (a CMS Jumbo 250)
reliability increased dramatically, and Fastback Plus 3.1 was suddenly
able to find and use the tape drive.
I don't know if this was caused by a hardware problem on my 1542.
On the one hand, the floppy drives worked great when they were attached
to the 1542, which seems to say that there was nothing wrong with the
1542. On the other hand, the tape drive didn't work well attached to
the 1542 floppy controller, but it did work when attached to a different
controller; this could be an indication of a hardware problem on my
1542. I did change floppy drive cables, and so it is conceivable that
the problem was in the cables. I don't know what the cause really is;
however, if you're having similar problems, you might want to consider
trying a new floppy controller.
***** Sound cards:
Many popular sound cards can play or record digitized sound, and
this is typically done using DMA. Like the tape drive DMA, the
Adaptec's DMA can conflict with the sound card DMA. Unlike that of the
tape DMA, this "conflict" usually manifests itself as a parity error
(your system crashes with a parity error message). What happens is
that, data is being transferred so quickly by the sound card and the
Adaptec, memory refresh cannot occur quickly enough, which causes a
parity error. Usually, getting a parity error means that there is a
hardware problem with your system; in this case, however, the parity
error is not a symptom of bad hardware.
I've found that such parity errors typically occur while recording
digitized sound, and the chances of such errors increase as you increase
the recording fidelity (e.g., higher sampling rate, recording in stereo,
recording using 16-bits instead of 8, etc.).
Like the tape drive solution, the solution here is to lower the
Adaptec's "bus on" timing. See the section on tape drives for
information on how this is done. Note, however, that this may or may
not solve the problem; it may only reduce the probability of a parity
error. The software used to record digitized sound can greatly affect
this problem (i.e., some software is inefficient). Disk caches, the
speed of your hard disk, and the amount of disk fragmentation can also
affect this.
***** Miscellaneous info:
This section contains miscellaneous hints, tips, and rumors. Much
of it is merely information that I've heard or read about, and have not
verified. I believe that the following information is correct, but I'm
not sure. Use it at your own risk.
* With QEMM 6.00, 6.01, and 6.02, you need to specify the "DB="
parameter (e.g., "DB=2"), unless you are using the ASPI4DOS driver.
If you don't, QEMM will crash/hang at bootup. Although the QEMM
manual mentions this, the install program does not seem to detect that
a 1542 is present and automatically add this option to the QEMM
command line (at least, this occurred with the QEMM 6.00 install
program -- I haven't tested any other version). Earlier versions of
QEMM probably need this parameter, but I'm not sure (I've never used a
version earlier than 6.00).
If you use ASPI4DOS, you do not need to give QEMM the "DB=" parameter.
* Some or all versions of the 1542 do not support hard disks over one
gigabyte in size. To support hard disks with capacities over 1GB, you
need to get a new ROM BIOS from Adaptec. I'm not sure if this is
still true of the latest 1542Bs being sold by Adaptec.
* To connect a CDROM drive to the 1542, you need a SCSI CDROM drive and
some drivers. Note that some CDROM drives have proprietary interfaces
(non-SCSI); these drives cannot be used with the 1542. You have three
choices for CDROM drivers (I have no idea how well the following
solutions work, or even if they work -- the following is secondhand
information):
1. You can buy Adaptec's EZ SCSI driver package, which lists for
something like $75. If you already have older Adaptec drivers,
you can supposedly upgrade to EZ SCSI for around $30. Contact
Adaptec for details. The EZ SCSI package supposedly contains
everything that you need.
2. You can buy the CorelSCSI! driver package, which is made by the
same people that make CorelDRAW! This package contains CDROM
drivers, SCSI tape drivers, WORM drivers, etc. I do not know
the list price, but I've seen this package sold for around
$80-$90. Note that CorelSCSI! does not come with the ASPI4DOS
driver, which is needed. If you do not already have ASPI4DOS,
you may be better off getting Adaptec's EZ SCSI instead.
3. [This method is obsolete, as the following drivers have been
obsoleted by Adaptec's EZ SCSI kit, but I'm mentioning it in
case someone already has these drivers.] You can use the
drivers in the Adaptec ASW-1410 kit (ASPI4DOS) and the ASW-410
kit (ASPI CDROM drivers). You will have to get a copy of
MSCDEX.EXE (a high-level CDROM driver), if it is not included in
the ASW-410 kit, but this is available from several bulletin
boards.
* To use a SCSI tape drive with the 1542, you need software that knows
how to talk to a SCSI tape drive. Software that I've heard about are
(again, like the above section on CDROM drives, I have no idea how
well the following solutions work, or even if they work -- the
following is secondhand information):
1. Central Point PC Tools 8.0 for MSDOS supposedly supports a large
number of SCSI tape drives. It comes with SCSI drivers
(ASPI4DOS 3.1) as well as Central Point Backup.
2. The CorelSCSI! driver package contains a SCSI tape backup
program (see the above section on CDROM drives for more
details). However, note that CorelSCSI! does not come with, but
requires, ASPI4DOS.
* I've seen advertisements that sell the 1542 in three configurations:
1. 1542 SCSI controller with hard disk ROM BIOS.
2. 1542 SCSI controller w/BIOS and Adaptec ASPI drivers.
3. 1542 SCSI controller w/BIOS, Adaptec ASPI drivers, and
CorelSCSI! drivers/programs.
I imagine that Adaptec now sells the 1542 in a fourth configuration:
4. 1542 SCSI controller w/BIOS and EZ SCSI drivers (including ASPI
drivers).
* Those people who use Unix might be interested in a version of GNU tar
for MSDOS that talks to a SCSI tape drive via the ASPI4DOS driver (you
need this driver before you can use this program). I've never used
this version of GNU tar, but I've heard that it works (I don't know
how well, though). If you have anonymous ftp access to the Internet,
a copy can be found on wsmr-simtel20.army.mil and mirror sites:
PD1:<MSDOS.DSKUTL>
ASPIBIN.ZIP 67841 920131 Gnu Tar for SCSI tape drives, Adaptec 154xx
ASPIPAT.ZIP 21206 920131 Patches for ASPIBIN relative to Gnu Tar 1.10
ASPISRC.ZIP 221370 920131 Src for Gnu Tar for SCSI tape, Adaptec ctrlr
I have no idea if a copy can be found on Compuserve; UNIXFORUM might
have it, if any forum does.
* As far as MSDOS is concerned, the 1542A and the 1542B controllers are
the same; with MSDOS, the 1542A should work as well as the 1542B.
However, the hardware for these two boards is not 100% identical, and
there is at least one (NON-MSDOS) program that initially did not work
with a 1542A, but did work with a 1542B (BSD386 -- a 386 version of
BSD Unix).
* In case anyone's curious, here's an edited copy of my CONFIG.SYS file:
FILES=40
BUFFERS=40
BREAK=ON
STACKS=10,256
DEVICE=c:\sys\dev\aspi4dos.sys /d /n4
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS on RAM ROM DMA=32 ST:M X=F800-FFFF
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICEHIGH=c:\sys\dev\nnansi.sys
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
shell = c:\dos\command.com /p
Note that I'm using QEMM and ASPI4DOS 3.1. If I were using ASPI4DOS
3.0 or 3.0a, I'd probably have to use a CONFIG.SYS that looked like:
FILES=40
BUFFERS=40
BREAK=ON
STACKS=10,256
DEVICE=c:\sys\dev\aspi4dos.sys /d /n4
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS on RAM ROM DMA=32 ST:M X=F800-FFFF
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICEHIGH=c:\sys\dev\scsiha.sys /V386
DEVICEHIGH=c:\sys\dev\nnansi.sys
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
shell = c:\dos\command.com /p
If I weren't using ASPI4DOS, I'd probably use something that looked
like:
FILES=40
BUFFERS=40
BREAK=ON
STACKS=10,256
DEVICE=c:\sys\dev\scsiha.sys /V386
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS on RAM ROM DB=32 DMA=32 ST:M X=F800-FFFF
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICEHIGH=c:\sys\dev\nnansi.sys
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
shell = c:\dos\command.com /p
However, if I used a floppy-controller-based tape drive, or if I
planned to record high-quality sound from a sound card, I would still
need some way of changing the Adaptec's bus on/off times. The first
two versions of CONFIG.SYS take care of this, but this last version
doesn't.
Local Variables:
fill-column: 72
eval: (auto-fill-mode nil)
End:
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
richardp@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Richard Patterson) writes:
>Need reference material on any connections between BCCI and the CIA. Also
>any information on BCCI's money laundring, drug and arms dealings.
>Refernces must be published in mews media or similar printed media.
>Please provide the name and date of the reference.
>Thank you for your time and assistance.
How about connections between BCCI and TCI? Reference to the BCCI
money laundering appears in an insert in an article about the TCI
cable company and its sharp -- and possibly illegal -- business
practices. The article is in the 27-Jan-92 issue of the Wall Street
Journal.
--
paul hager hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu
"It is error alone which needs the support of government.
Truth can stand by itself." --Thomas Jefferson
| 18talk.politics.misc |
All right, listen up.... What are the possibilities of transmission through
swimming pool water? Especially if the chlorination isn't up to par?
I've heard of community swimming pools refered to as PUBLIC URINALS so what
else is going on?
| 13sci.med |
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