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In article <1ql178INN51q@tamsun.tamu.edu> dlb5404@tamuts.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) writes: >In article <1993Apr15.203750.25764@walter.bellcore.com> jchen@ctt.bellcore.com writes: >>I just visited the NY Auto Show, and saw two LH cars on the floor: Eagle >>Vision and Dodge Intrepid. >>at a competitive price. ... >> >>Unfortunately, the workmanship is quite disappointing. On BOTH cars, >>the rubber seals around the window and door fell off. It turns out >>the seals are just big grooved rubber band. It goes on just by pressing > > >"Through a single data point, you can draw any line you want." >-- Dr. S. Bart Childs, Professor, Texas A&M Dept. of Computer Science > Wrong. I got two points, which were the 100% sample space on the show floor. By the previous quote, I guess I may drow a determinstic line? > >Both my pastor's late model Corolla and my father's 1987 Stanza >have demonstrated the "falling door seals" problem. > As unfair as it may seem, the difference between Chrysler and Toyota is that Chrysler needs to prove that it can build quality cars. Toyota can afford make a few small mistakes without hurting the image. After all, door seal failing on a 6-year old Stanza is not comparable to the same problem on a brand new Intreprid. Jason Chen
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In article <1993Apr15.161531.11737@newsgate.sps.mot.com> rapw20@email.sps.mot.com writes: > >their problem, I wasn't giving them any more money. The finance guy then >brought in the manager on duty who proceeded to give me a hard time. I >reminded him that I was the customer and I didn't think I should be >treated like that and that if he didn't back off he could forget the whole >deal. He made some smart remark so I told him where he could stick it, >snatched back my check and left. Needless to say, they were not pleased by >the turn of events. That's nothing. When a friend of mine went shopping for a small sedan a few years ago, she brought me along as a token male so the salespeople wouldn't give her the "bimbo" treatment. Her first choice was a Mazda 323, and second choice was a Nissan Sentra. We went to a Mazda dealership and described what "we" wanted. We started negotiating on the price, and the salesdroid kept playing the "let me run this price by the sales manager". After playing the "good salesman, bad salesman" game, we finally told him that if he didn't have the authority to negotiate a price, perhaps we should be speaking directly to someone who did. He brought in the sales manager who proceeded to dick us around with every trick in the book. (Read Remar Sutton's "Don't Get Taken Every Time" for a list.) Finally, after playing a few more rounds of "you'll have to work with us on this price", also known as "each time you come up a thousand dollars we'll come down ten", the salesmanager gave a signal to his two sales cronies, stood up, and said "well, we can't come down any more so I guess we can't help you" and they trouped out of the room, leaving us sitting in the salesman's office all by ourselves. Hmm. I'd read that sleazy salesmen sometimes bug their own offices so they can leave and listen in on couples discussing the sales offer, and I mentioned this aloud to my friend while we were sitting there wondering why they would leave us in the office instead of showing us to the door. For lack of anything better to do, I picked up the phone on the desk and called another Mazda dealership, asked for a salesman, and began discussing what kind of price they would consider. A few sentences into the conversation, Mr. Salesmanager broke into the line (!) and began telling me how rude he thought it was that I would call another dealership from "his" phone! I said that since he'd announced that our business was over, he shouldn't care, and every time I tried to talk to the other sales guy the sales manager would drown out our voices with his own. (How did he know that I was using the phone, anyway?) Finally, I hung up and we headed out of the showroom. Sales manager and cronies come out of a little unmarked room and he begins to berate us again. We say that we won't bother him anymore, we're going next door to the Nissan dealership. Then comes the part I wish I could have videotaped. As we go out the front door, the sales manager SHOUTS across the entire showroom, customers and all, "Go ahead! You DESERVE to buy a Nissan!" So my friend bought a Sentra. Just so the guilty won't go unpunished, I'll mention that the sales manager's name was Gary Tusone. From his manner, his refusal to come down to a reasonable price, and his anger at the end, my guess is that he had bet our original salesman (who was a young novice) that he'd be able to get at least X dollars out of us, and he was steamed that we wouldn't fall for his slimy tricks.
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mdanjou@gel.ulaval.ca (Martin D'Anjou) writes: B )>>>>>>>>> Votre host est mal configure... <<<<<<<<<<<< )Bonjour Sylvain, ) J'ai travaille avec le hc11 il y a 3 ans et je ne me souviens pas de toutes les possibilites mais je vais quand meme essayer de t'aider. ) Je ne crois pas que downloader une programme directement dans le eeprom soit une bonne idee (le eeprom a une duree de vie limitee a 10 000 cycles il me semble). Le communication break down vient peut-etre du fait que le eeprom est long a programmer (1ms par 8 bytes mais c'est a verifier) et que les delais de transfer de programme s19 vers la memoire sont excedes. Normalement, les transferts en RAM du code s19 est plus rapide car le RAM est plus rapide que le eeprom en ecriture. ) C'est tout ce que ma memoire me permet de me souvenir! )Bonne chance, Oh yeah easy for him to say!... -- Ken Thompson N0ITL NCR Corp. Peripheral Products Division Disk Array Development 3718 N. Rock Road Wichita KS 67226 (316)636-8783 Ken.Thompson@wichitaks.ncr.com
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Not on my system. Frank Calloway
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In article <97431@hydra.gatech.EDU> mg15@prism.gatech.EDU (Glynn,Mike) writes: >I would like to prevent our Windows users from using >ctl-alt-del from within windows. I know there must be >a way to do it. >Could anyone point me in the right direction? >Thanks in advance, >Mike Glynn Are you sure you want to do that? If a win app locks up for some reason, ctrl-alt-del may be the only way to kill the app and get back to Windows. Granted it doesn't work all that often but it has come in handy on occasion. I consider it pretty carefully before I disabled that keystroke. Just a thought. +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | "If you'd like to talk for hours . . just go ahead now" | | - The Spin Doctors | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Dominic Drohan Electronic Data Systems (EDS) | | EMAIL: drohand@cad.gmeds.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | NOTE: The views and opinions expressed herein are mine, | | and DO NOT reflect those of EDS | +-----------------------------------------------------------+
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Last year my nine year old son fell in love with baseball and now likes to play and to follow the professionals. I would like to buy him a board game so he can catch a glimpse of and practise a little of the managerial stragegy. I am not looking for a computer game or any type of game where manual dexterity determines the winner. I am after something that he and his friends can spread out over a table on a rainy day and spend some thoughtful time over. I would appreciate the names of any recommended games. I don't follow this newsgroup, so e-mail responses would be ideal. ....[MIchael] -- MGODDARD@EHD.HWC.CA : Michael Goddard : (613) 954-0169 : Fax (613) 952-9798 B9, Environmental Health Centre, Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa, Canada, K1A 0L2 -- MGODDARD@EHD.HWC.CA : Michael Goddard : (613) 954-0169 : Fax (613) 952-9798 B9, Environmental Health Centre, Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa, Canada, K1A 0L2
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In article <1993Apr20.211638.168730@zeus.calpoly.edu> jgreen@trumpet.calpoly.edu (James Thomas Green) writes: >Has anyone looked into the possiblity of a Proton/Centaur combo? >What would be the benefits and problems with such a combo (other >than the obvious instability in the XSSR now)? I haven't seen any speculation about it. But, the Salyut KB (Design Bureau) was planning a new LH/LOX second stage for the Proton which would boost payload to LEO from about 21000 to 31500 kg. (Geostationary goes from 2600 kg. (Gals launcher version) to 6000 kg.. This scheme was competing with the Energia-M last year and I haven't heard which won, except now I recently read that the Central Specialized KB was working on the successor to the Soyuz booster which must be the Energia-M. So the early results are Energia-M won, but this is a guess, nothing is very clear in Russia. I'm sure if Salyut KB gets funds from someone they will continue their development. The Centaur for the Altas is about 3 meters dia. and the Proton is 4 so that's a good fit for their existing upper stage, the Block-D which sets inside a shround just under 4 meters dia. I don't know about launch loads, etc.. but since the Centaur survives Titan launches which are probably worse than the Proton (those Titan SRB's probably shake things up pretty good) it seems feasible. EXCEPT, the Centaur is a very fragile thing and may require integration on the pad which is not available now. Protons are assembled and transported horizontially. Does anyone know how much stress in the way of a payload a Centaur could support while bolted to a Proton horizontally and then taken down the rail road track and erected on the pad? They would also need LOX and LH facilities added to the Proton pads (unless the new Proton second stage is actually built), and of course any Centaur support systems and facilities, no doubt imported from the US at great cost. These systems may viloate US law so there are political problems to solve in addition to the instabilities in the CIS you mention. Dennis Newkirk (dennisn@ecs.comm.mot.com) Motorola, Land Mobile Products Sector Schaumburg, IL
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sylvain@netcom.com (Nicholas Sylvain) writes: >>value gun shops where all the city's many fine community spirited drug >>dealers arm themselves.... > >Such a fine posting, with the exception of these particular lines. I hope >you don't *REALLY* think that your average drug dealer actually purchases >his gun(s) from a legal source. As a matter of fact, I know it. There were several shootings recently in which the guns had been purchased at the Baltimore Gunsmith, on Broadway - a favorite place to get cheap "popular" pieces. By "popular" I am referring to the kinds of guns our local youth gangs like: pistol grip shotguns, cheap magnums, and Tec-9s. I hate to poke a hole in your bubble, but I was referring to a specific gunstore, and specific incidents. Any other questions? mjr.
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ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) writes: > My previous posting on dog attacks must have generated some bad karma or > something. I've weathered attempted dog attacks before using the > approved method: Slow down to screw up dog's triangulation of target, > then take off and laugh at the dog, now far behind you. This time, it > didn't work because I didn't have time. Riding up the hill leading to my > house, I encountered a liver-and-white Springer Spaniel (no relation to > the Springer Softail, or the Springer Spagthorpe, a close relation to > the Spagthorpe Viking). Actually, the dog encountered me with intent to > harm. [interesting dog collision story deleted] > What worries me about the accident is this: I don't think I could have > prevented it except by traveling much slower than I was. This is not > necessarily an unreasonable suggestion for a residential area, but I was > riding around the speed limit. I worry about what would have happened if > it had been a car instead of a dog, but I console myself with the > thought that it would take a truly insane BDI cager to whip out of a > blind driveway at 15-30 mph. For that matter, how many driveways are > long enough for a car to hit 30 mph by the end? > > I eagerly await comment. My driveway and about half my neighbor's driveways are long enough to do a good 80 clicks (50mph for the velocity impaired) if we wanted to. Granted, I live in the country, however I've seen neighbors whip out of their driveways at the above mentioned 30 mph quite a bit- they claim they can tell that "There's noone on the road for quite a ways." This despite having nearly been hit myself by one of them while driving a Chev 4x4, and twice taking my 10-speed bicycle over the hood of a car that had pulled out, saw me, *then* stopped. Same driver. Same car. About two months apart. ObMoto: The scary relevant part is that these people and I live on the type of twisty two lane that we all favor for riding- and I know damn well that they can't see me on my bike, not if they couldn't see me in my pickup. > Ryan Cousinetc.|1982 Yamaha Vision XZ550 -Black Pig of Inverness|Live to Ride > KotRB |1958 AJS 500 C/S -King Rat |to Work to > DoD# 0863 |I'd be a squid if I could afford the bike... |Flame to > ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org | Vancouver, BC, Canada |Live . . . > > > * SLMR 2.1a * "He's hurt." "Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor -- oh, right." > > ---- > +===============================================================+ > |COMPUTER DYNAMICS BBS 604-255-9937(HST) 604-986-9937(V32)| > |Vancouver, BC, Canada - Easy Access, Low Rates, Friendly Sysop| > +===============================================================+ There's nothing like the pitter-patter of little feet, followed by the words "Hey- you're not my Daddy!" (Sorry- I had to do it just once) -- Dean Woodward | "You want to step into my world? dean@fringe.rain.com | It's a socio-psychotic state of Bliss..." '82 Virago 920 | -Guns'n'Roses, 'My World' DoD # 0866
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I finally got it back, with great thanks to Mark Spiegel for saving and sending it. #2 ROB ZETTLER Season: 4th Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: C/C- Zettler gave the Sharks every bit he's got this year; unfortunately, this still wasn't enough to make him any more than a marginal NHLer, if that. He works hard, for sure, but is no better than average on defense, and is prone to costly penalties and defensive lapses at times, while being basically an offensive zero (0 goal and 7 assists in 79 games). He would be hardpressed to make the team next year. #3 DAVID WILLIAMS Season: 2nd Acquired: '91-92, free agent from New Jersey Grade: C/C- IMO, Williams was the most valuable defenseman for the Sharks in '91-92, playing a combination of good offense (3 goals and 25 assists in 56 games) and good defense. But he, playing the first part of this season in Kansas City, was good neither offensively nor defensively this year; it, then, appears that '91-92 was a fluke. Although he improved towards the end of the season, he was prone to being out of position defensively, and did not demonstrate the playmaking skills that made him the team's leading scorer among defensemen last year. He would also be hardpressed to make the team next year. #4 JAYSON MORE Season: 2nd Acquired: '91-92, from Montreal in expansion draft Grade: B+ After being touted as the team's top defensive prospects in training camp before '91-92, More had a rather disappointing '91-92, as he was not particularly good defensively, and had just 17 points in 46 games. He, then, proceeded to improve his game massively this season, becoming the team's most reliable defenseman, whom the team can count on night in and night out to play steady defense and providing occasional (but only occasional) offensive flash. Offensively, he was even more disappointing than last year (11 points in 73 games), but his defense improved tremendously. He is probably best as the defensive part of a defense combination with an offensive defenseman. #5 NEIL WILKINSON Season: 4th Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: B- Wilkinson was probably the team's top defensive defenseman in '91-92. However, partially because of injuries, he was not the same this year, as he missed 25 games total due to nagging knee and back injuries, and seemed to be slowed even when playing. He, then, had often to be saved by his defensive partners; that is, if they are there at all. But he also had some solid games, and if he can be complete healthy, he can still be a force. #6 SANDIS OZOLINSH Season: 1st Acquired: '91-92, 2nd round pick in entry draft Grade: I (A) At the time of his injury (December 30, against the Philadelphia Flyers), Ozolinsh was well on track to be, IMO, the team's MVP. A serious knee injury in that game, though, forced him to miss the rest of the season (47 games), but he still finished as the team's top scorer among defensemen (23 points), which, of course, tells more about the lack of offense the Sharks had from their defensemen, but it also tells of Ozolinsh's abilities. At the time, he was playing very good defense along with excellent offense; he was still susceptible to so-called "rookie mistakes," but was probably the defenseman who made the least of them on the team, rookie or veteran. If he can come back from his injuries, he is ready to be a star. #19 DOUG ZMOLEK Season: 1st Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: B Zmolek had basically a solid and durable year, being one of the only two Sharks to play in all 84 games of the season. He was solid on defense, but after being billed as an offensive defenseman, he didn't show it (15 points). He was also prone to penalties, and his 229 penalty minutes was second on the team; however, that was also an indication that he was fearly when facing tough physical opponents, and he was at his best when playing physically. But to become a fixture in this league, he needs to improve both offensively and defensively, and cut down on the number of power-plays he gives to opponents. =============================================================================== GO CALGARY FLAMES! Al MacInnis for Norris! Gary Roberts for Hart and Smythe! GO EDMONTON OILERS! Go for playoffs next year! Stay in Edmonton! =============================================================================== Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu) rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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In article <1993Apr21.224250.19772@leland.Stanford.EDU>, smashman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Samuel Nash) writes... > > >How do I get a subscription to MacWeek. I want one, but I don't seem to be able >to find a subscription card anywhere. > >email smashman@leland.stanford.edu I just ordered my subscription today. Call MacWeek's Customer Service Dept. at (609) 461-2100 and quote some plastic. If you forget the number, it's included in the statement of ownership, which is on the contents page of the copy I have. A one year subscription costs $99.00 in the U.S, Canada, or Mexico. I was told my first issue would arrive in 4-6 weeks. Leslie Jones ljones@utkvx.utk.edu
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
In article <1993Apr5.151323.7183@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes: > >I'm still looking for good gloves, myself, >as the ones I have now are too loose. When you find some new ones, I suggest donating the ones you have now to the Lautrec family in France... <grin> Michael -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael Nelson 1993 CBR900RR | | Internet: nelson@seahunt.imat.com Dod #0735 | +-------------------------------------------------------------+
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In article <etxmow.735561695@garboc29> etxmow@garbo.ericsson.se (Mats Winberg) writes: > Isn't there a relatively new treatment for kidney stones involving > a non-invasive use of ultra-sound where the patient is lowered > into some sort of liquid when he/she undergoes treatment? I'm sure > I've read about it somewhere. If I remember it correctly it is a > painless and effective treatment. > A couple of weeks ago I visited a hospital here in Stockholm and > saw big signs showing the way to the "Kidney stone chrusher" ... I saw this a few years ago on "Tomorrow's World" (low-brow BBC technology news program). The patient is lowered into a bath of de-ionized water and carefully positioned. High intensity pressure waves are generated by an electric spark in the water (you don't get electrocuted because de-ionised water does not conduct). These waves are focused on the kidneys by a parabolic reflector and cause the stone to break up. This is completely painless. Of course, you then have to get these little bits of gravel through the urethra. Ouch! Paul. -- Paul Johnson (paj@gec-mrc.co.uk). | Tel: +44 245 73331 ext 3245 --------------------------------------------+---------------------------------- These ideas and others like them can be had | GEC-Marconi Research is not for $0.02 each from any reputable idealist. | responsible for my opinions
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brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes: >In article <bskendigC5Ku3C.6Dx@netcom.com> bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes: >>I've asked your god several times with all my heart to come to me... >Brian K., I am pleased with your honesty. And to be honest as well, I >believe you have not asked my god to come to you. Why do I say this? Because that would contradict your religious beliefs; therefore, you feel more comfortable simply accusing his sincerity, so you will not have to critically examine your religious beliefs. --- Merlyn LeRoy
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keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley) writes: > > All in all, I'm not certain that the single goal/prize of staying on the > moon for a year is wise and/or useful. How about: A prize for the > first > non-government sponsered unmanned moon landing, then another for a > manned > moon landing, then yet another for a system to extract consumables from > lunar soil, another for a reusable earth/moon shuttle, and so forth. > Find > some way to build civilian moonbase infrastructure... Having a single > goal > might result in a bunch of contestents giving up after one person > appeared > to win. And for those that didn't give up, I find something a little > scary > about a half dozen people huddling in rickety little moon shelters. I'd > like to see as much a reward for co-operation as for competition. > > Lastly, about ten or fifteen years back I seem to recall that there was > an > English space magazine that had an on-going discussion about moonbases > on > the cheap. I recalled it discussed things like how much heat the human > body produced, how much lunar material it'd need for protection from > solar > flares, etc. Unfortunately I don't remember the name of this magazine. > Does this ring a bell to anyone? > > Craig Keithley |"I don't remember, I don't recall, > Apple Computer, Inc. |I got no memory of anything at all" > keithley@apple.com |Peter Gabriel, Third Album (1980) > I love the idea of progressive developmental prizes, but the assumption has been all along that only the U.S. Gummint could fund the prizes. It wouldn't and couldn't do such a thing ... BUT ... An eccentric billionaire COULD offer such a prize or series of prizes. Anyone know H. Ross Perot or Bill Gates personally? John G.
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OHIO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE TUEDAY, APRIL 6, 1993 H.B. NO. 278- REPRESENTATIVE BEATTY TO AMMEND SECTION 2923.11, 2923.17, AND 2923.20 AND TO ENACT N 2923.181 OF THE REVISED CODE TO EXPAND THE DEFINTION OF DANGEROUS ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE MILITARY WEAPONS THAT DO NOT USE BOLT ACTION, TO INCREASE THE PENALTY FOR A VIOLATION OF THE PROHIBTION AGAINST POSSESION OF DANGEROUS ORDINANCE, TO PROHIBIT ANY PERSON FROM ACQUIRING A MILITARY WEAPON ON OR AFTER THE ACT'SEFFECTIVE DATE, TO REQUIRE THE LICENSURE OF MILITARY WEAPONS ACQUIRED FOR A PROPER PURPOSE PRIOR TO THE ACT'S EFFECTIVE DATE, TO PROHIBIT A PERSON FROM IMPORTING, MANUFACTURING, OR SELLING A MILITARY WEAPON, AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY. As of Monday, April 12, 1993 H.B. 278 had not been assigned to a committee. Introduced as an emergency measure if this passes there is no chance for a reforendum, and would go into effect immediately as opposed to the state requirement of 90 days before a law goes into effect. -- Larry Cipriani -- l.v.cipriani@att.com
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Hello fellow netlanders. I have a Genius Mouse model GM-6, but no driver for it. It's a 3 button mouse. If anyone that;s got one of theese could mail me a driver (config.sys or autoexec.bat) I would be very happy. -- Staffan Ungsgard : Internet: Telesoft Norden AB : Staffan.Ungsgard@nynashamn.telesoft.se Utsiktsvagen 10, : Phone: +46-8 52069014 Nynashamn, Sweden : Fax: +46-8 52020965
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A friend of mine is going in later this week for tests to see if has emphysema. His lung capacity has decreased over time. His father died of the disease. He works in woodworking. I believe he has a very occasional cigarette, perhaps one cigarette a day or even less. He tells me this..I've never seen him light up. He has some pretty healthy life style habits, good diet, exercise, meditation, retreats, therapy etc. Anyhow..he is very concerned with this check up. I know really nothing about the disease. I believe it interferes with the lining of the lung being able to exchange oxygen. Is a diagnosis of emphysema a death sentence? If he were to give up smoking entirely would that better his chances for recovery? What are some modern therapies used in people with this disease? I would appreciate any information. Thanks. amigan@cup.portal.com
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In article <93113.11034134AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>, <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes: |> In article <ofppPcS00iUy0_k3Mr@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Stephen J. Ludwick" |> <sl3b+@andrew.cmu.edu> says: |> > |> >Hi everybody! |> > |> >Does anyone know of companies that are currently manufacturing |> >encryption chips for sale to the general public? Get them while you |> >can! Some pointers would be greatly appreciated. Motorola certainly makes them, but I don't know how you would go about buying one. You'd probably have to buy one of our secure radios. You could also bring in encryption chips from outside the country. -- Doug Bank Private Systems Division dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com Motorola Communications Sector dougb@nwu.edu Schaumburg, Illinois dougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu 708-576-8207
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Hi! We have an old Montage FR-1 35mm film recorder. When connected to a PC with its processor card it can directly take HPGL, Targa and Lasergraphics Language files. 24 bit Targa is quite OK for raster images, but conversion from whatever one happens to have can be quite slow. This Lasergraphics Language seems to be (got the source file for one test image) a vector-based language that can handle one million colors. It does some polygons too, and perhaps something else ? The question is, where can I find some information about this language ? A FTP site, a book, a company address,.... ? (OK, it would be nice to have a Windows driver for it, but I'm not THAT optimistic...) Thanks in advance for any help! jussi -- Jussi Laaksonen Computing Centre / ]bo Akademi University, Finland
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In article <1993Apr9.140123.12253@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> halsall@MURRAY.FORDHAM.EDU (Paul Halsall) writes: > It's curious that Serdar spend his time attacking Greeks and >Armenians. Who just happen to be historical opponents of Turkey. The Because, the x-Soviet Armenian government got away with the genocide of 2.5 million Turkish men, women and children and is enjoying the fruits of that genocide. And they are doing 'it' again. Are you so blind? >problem is, everybody - Arab, Greek, Bulgar, Serb, Russian, Tartar, >Circassian, Persian, Kurd - is, or has been an opponent. Who has been Kurds 'R' us; Armenians 'R' not. >an ally? This historic circumstance seems to have taken a certain >toll on Serdar: perhaps he should be posting to alt.raving.nationalist >rather than soc.history? Excuse me? "We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the scattered bones of the dead." Ohanus Appressian "Men Are Like That" p. 202. A genocide is a deliberate and organized massacre of people in an attempt to exterminate a race. This is the worst crime in history. It happened to the Turks in eastern Anatolia and the Armenian dictatorship. 2.5 million Turks and Kurds were killed in the worst ways imaginable. It is sickening to think that the human race is capable of such actions, but there is no denying the fact that the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslims happened. People of Turkiye deeply sympathize with those whose relatives were killed in the Turkish genocide. I understand their anger that there are those who still deny that the Turkish genocide indeed took place, despite the fact that the genocide of 2.5 million Turks has been well documented over the past six decades. We cannot reverse the events of the past, but we can and we must strive to keep the memory of this tragedy alive on this side of the Atlantic, so as to help prevent a recurrence of the extermination of a people because of their religion or their race. Source: Bristol Papers, General Correspondence: Container #32 - Bristol to Bradley Letter of September 14, 1920. "I have it from absolute first-hand information that the Armenians in the Caucasus attacked Tartar (Turkish) villages that are utterly defenseless and bombarded these villages with artillery and they murder the inhabitants, pillage the village and often burn the village." > Lets get somethings straight. Why not? >1. Armenians are no angels, but they were subject to Turkish genocide. And the Germans were subject to Jewish Genocide? Are you for real? Tell me 'Halsall', were you high on "ASALA/SDPA/ARF" forgeries and fabrications when you wrote that? Where is your non-existent list of scholars. Here is mine: During the First World War and the ensuing years - 1914-1920, the Armenian Dictatorship through a premeditated and systematic genocide, tried to complete its centuries-old policy of annihilation against the Turks and Kurds by savagely murdering 2.5 million Muslims and deporting the rest from their 1,000 year homeland. The attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance of Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people. This event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government and international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark Bristol, William Langer, Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford Shaw, Arthur Chester, John Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian, Ohanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco Villalta, General Nikolayef, General Bolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, General Odiselidze, Meguerditche, Kazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis Aharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, General Bronsart, Arfa, Dr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, Katchaznouni, Rachel Bortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul Muratoff and many others. J. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of the Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University. Bernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History, Princeton University. Halil Inalcik, University Professor of Ottoman History & Member of the American Academy of Arts & Sciences, University of Chicago. Peter Golden, Professor of History, Rutgers University, Newark. Stanford Shaw, Professor of History, University of California at Los Angeles. Thomas Naff, Professor of History & Director, Middle East Research Institute, University of Pennsylvania. Ronald Jennings, Associate Professor of History & Asian Studies, University of Illinois. Howard Reed, Professor of History, University of Connecticut. Dankwart Rustow, Distinguished University Professor of Political Science, City University Graduate School, New York. John Woods, Associate Professor of Middle Eastern History, University of Chicago. John Masson Smith, Jr., Professor of History, University of California at Berkeley. Alan Fisher, Professor of History, Michigan State University. Avigdor Levy, Professor of History, Brandeis University. Andreas G. E. Bodrogligetti, Professor of History, University of California at Los Angeles. Kathleen Burrill, Associate Professor of Turkish Studies, Columbia University. Roderic Davison, Professor of History, George Washington University. Walter Denny, Professor of History, University of Massachusetts. Caesar Farah, Professor of History, University of Minnesota. Tom Goodrich, Professor of History, Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Tibor Halasi-Kun, Professor Emeritus of Turkish Studies, Columbia University. Justin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville. Jon Mandaville, Professor of History, Portland State University (Oregon). Robert Olson, Professor of History, University of Kentucky. Madeline Zilfi, Professor of History, University of Maryland. James Stewart-Robinson, Professor of Turkish Studies, University of Michigan. .......so the list goes on and on and on..... Now wait, there is more. Mark Alan Epstein, 'The Ottoman Jewish Communities and their Role in the Fifteenth and Sixteenth Centuries,' Klaus Schwarz Werlag, Freiburg (1980). page 19: <<During the fifteenth century, when the Ottomans were struggling to reestablish themselves in the Balkans, there was considerable turmoil among the Jewish communities in Central and Western Europe. Even if the difficulties of the darker centuries immediately preceding the fourteenth are minimized, it is easy to understand the attraction which Ottoman life, particularly when compared to life in Europe, held for the Jews. There is no way to tell how many Jews left Christendom for the realm of the rising Muslim Ottomans, but with each account of persecution in or expulsion from Christian countries it is recorded that some Jews fled to Ottoman territory. The regularity of these reports suggests that the Ottomans were considered reasonably tolerant protectors and that there was a regular trickle of Jewish families moving southward and eastward from Western and Central Europe. (...) It is evident that the effects of plague, late crusades, and the general intolerance and persecution of Jews in Christian Europe resulted in the redirection of the whole focus of Jewish life which, for more than two centuries, was to be oriented toward Muslim East.>> page 21: <<In the second quarter of the fifteenth century the foremost official in the Edirne Jewish community was Rabbi Yitzhak Sarfati the Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of the city. He was the most important rabbi in the city and the author of an important letter which tells us something of the situation of the Edirne Jewry in the fifteenth century. Sarfati himself was from Christian Europe and supposedly wrote this letter at the behest of two recent arrivals from there, who, upon seeing the prosperity and freedom of the Ottoman Jews, prevailed upon him to write their European coreligionists apprising them of the situation and urging them to migrate. This remarkable letter advised its recipients not only of the pleasant conditions in the Ottoman domains, but described as well the ease of travel to Palestine and the holy places, an attraction to those who would make a pilgrimage or choose to be buried there.>> (*) page 41: <<...the impression gained from the Hebrew sources is that the Jews were firmly aware of the community of interests which existed between them and the Ottomans, especially in comparison to relations with the Christians of Europe. Confirmation of the commonality of interests between Muslims and Jews is also indicated by the fact that European Christians perceived the Jews as allies of Islam and were well aware of Muslim-Jewish cooperation. Certainly the activity of important Jewish financiers and politicians representing the Ottoman government abroad did not pass unnoticed. European sources are the basis for much of our knowledge of their careers. In addition it appears that Christian pirates plundered ''Turks and Jews,'' their sworn enemies, and that Europeans considered the Jews to be agents who regularly reported to the Ottomans. There are well-known examples of overt Jewish support for the Ottomans in the struggle against European powers. The two best known instances of Jewish support for the campaigning Ottomans are the frequently cited instances of the Jewish contributions to the conquests of Buda, in the early sixteenth century, and of Rhodes. We also have reports of sympathy for the Ottomans during the siege of Chios. An unpublished Ottoman document shows dramatically the mutual interests which existed in some Greek towns...>> page 43: <<It is clear that throughout the sixteenth century it was a generally accepted fact that the interests of Jews and Muslims coincided frequently, and all parties involved, Jews, Muslims, and Christians, were aware of the situation.>> page 46: <<...it seems that the relations between Greeks and Jews were not particularly cordial. The two groups had little in common, few common interests, and perceived no common philosophical or religious tradition which could serve as the basis for cooperation, rather than enmity. If there was any identifiable bond of good will which existed between religious communities in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, it was that between Muslims and Jews, neither of whom had much in common with the Orthodox.>> page 46: <<The general impression of Muslim-Jewish relations in the Ottoman context during the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries is one of community of interests. From the earliest times the Ottomans seem to have welcomed Jews to their territory and to have found in the communities already existing in places which they conquered a cooperative element. The Jewish response to this tolerance was a steady flow of Jews from Christian countries to Ottoman domains.>> page 151: <<From the period before 1453 we have only a few indications that the Ottoman-Jewish relationship was well on the course of amity which would characterize it for years afterward, but the liberality of the Ottomans, in contrast to the intolerance of the Byzantines, and the protection and the security which the Ottomans offered, in comparison to conditions elsewhere, leave little doupt that even then both the Ottomans and the Jews recognized their mutual interests...>> page 161: <<It is impossible to say how fundamental the Jews were in the success of the Ottomans in rebuilding Istanbul or in Ottoman mercantile success in the sixteenth century. That they played an important role in both cannot be doupted. It is also unclear whether they were important enough to say that the Ottomans would not have experienced their great success without the Jews and that no other group could have been found to serve the Ottomans as well as did the Jews. It is, however, unmistakably clear that there are few parallels in world history to this remarkable partnership between Jews and the non-Jewish society in which they lived. We must conclude that the Ottomans could probably not achieved their success without a group performing certain tasks for them as well as the Jews did. Certainly for the Jews of the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries the Ottoman Empire was a most remarkable and salubrious home.>> (*) A version of Rabbi Sarfati's [Tzarfati] letter is given by Prof.Shaw: page 32: <<Your cries and sobs reached us. We have been told of all the troubles and persecutions which you have to suffer in the German lands....I hear the lamentation of my brethren...The barbarous and cruel nation ruthlessly oppresses the faithful children of the chosen people...The priests and prelates of Rome have risen. They wish to root out the memory of Jacob and erase the name of Israel. They always devise new persecutions. They wish to bring you to the stake...Listen my brethren, to the counsel I will give you. I too was born in Germany and studied Torah with the German rabbis. I was driven out of my native country and came to the Turkish land, which is blessed by God and filled with all good things. Here I found rest and happiness; Turkey can also become for you the land of peace...If you who live in Germany knew even a tenth of what God has blessed us with in this land, you would not consider any difficulties; you would set out to come to us...Here in the land of the Turks we have nothing to complain of. We possess great fortunes; much gold and silver in our hands. We are not oppressed with heavy taxes, and our commerce is free and unhindered. Rich are the fruits of the earth. Everything is cheap, and every one of us lives in peace and freedom. Here the Jew is not compelled to wear a yellow hat as a badge of shame, as is the case in Germany, where even wealth and great fortune are a curse for a Jew because he therewith arouses jealousy among the Christians and they devise all kinds of slander against him to rob him of his gold. Arise my brethren, gird up your loins, collect your forces, and come to us. Here you will be free of your enemies, here you will find rest...>>[13] [13] Israel Zinberg, A History Of Jewish Literature. vol.V. The Jewish Center of Culture in the Ottoman Empire (Hebrew Union College Press, Ktav Publishers, New York, 1974). Serdar Argic 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination.' (Ohanus Appressian - 1919) 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
17talk.politics.mideast
In article <1993Apr13.164924.2606@wuecl.wustl.edu> dp@cec1.wustl.edu (David Prutchi) writes: >Can circuits found in electronics magazines (with no patent disclaimer) >be used legally as subcircuits of a commercial unit ? There are two issues here: copyright and patent. The magazine article's contents are copyrighted, and may not be reproduced, translated, etc., without the copyright holder's permission. However, this does not cover the *ideas* expressed, only the form of expression. Copying their circuit diagram or PC-board pattern is copyright infringement. But it's unlikely that they could stretch copyright far enough to claim that the circuit design itself is copyrighted. So long as you draw your own diagrams and lay out your own boards, copyright shouldn't be an issue. Patents are different. The author does *not* have to give you any warning that the design is covered by patent (although it would be sensible for him to do so). In fact, it's possible that *he* was infringing on someone else's patent without realizing it. Ignorance of the patented status is not a defence against infringement, although it might reduce the damages a court would award. However... unless there was something seriously novel about the circuit, almost certainly it is "obvious to one skilled in the art" and therefore unpatentable. Routine engineering is not patentable; patents (in theory) cover only inventions, ideas that are genuinely new. Caution: I am not a lawyer. Consulting a professional would be wise if significant amounts of money are at stake. -- All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
12sci.electronics
note followup taite@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu () writes ... > Wrong, NYC subway breath. Criminals are going to have guns regardless >of what legislative remedy you come up with. However, it is the law-abiding >citizens who suffer when guns are harder to obtain. Case in point: Washington, >D.C. is the murder capital of the U.S., but has banned handguns and has some >of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Overlooking entirely that there is nothing to prevent anyone from taking the bus across the river to buy guns. An utterly worthless statistic. > In the UK, I read recently that some young women >have been killing even without guns (which are nearly impossible to obtain >there) and it is a cause of great concern to the Brits. As it should be. They have a homicide rate that is a couple of orders of magnitude lower then this country's (as does almost everyone else in the world). But I suppose that it's too unreasonable to suppose that a lower availability of handguns has anything to do with that fact. > Well-armed citizens >mean that this country will never fear from the government, criminals or >invasion. Right. Remember those riots a while back? Remember what they were about? Nope, we have nothing to fear from the US government (unlike those Canadians living under the terribly oppressive regime up north). >Why should we want to compare our society which is extremely heterogeneous and >wealthy to one that is basically homogeneous and in dire straits? Britain basically homogeneous?!? In comparison to the US?!? Now I _know_ you're an ignorant putz. -- Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
18talk.politics.misc
In article <im14u2c.735176900@camelot> im14u2c@camelot.bradley.edu (Joe Zbiciak) writes: >What's the word on the chipset? Is this a ROM bug specific >to a specific brand using the Rockwell, or is it the Rockwell >chipset itself? There were an assortment of firmware problems, but that is pretty much expected with any FAX/modem talking with a different FAX or modem which may have also been revised or is new. I'm pretty much oblivious to any current firmware problems, so you'll have to get it from someone else. However, I can tell you to stay clear of any board which uses the Rockwell MPU (as opposed to the DPU) for an internal implementation. This is because the MPU used "speed buffering" instead of having a 16550 interface. Without the 550 interface, the number of interrupts are still the same and thus may get dropped under multitasking conditions (like in windows). As far as I know, the "speed buffering" works OK for external modems if a 550 is used on the internal serial port board. Hope this helps... Tom -- |Tom Barrett (TDBear), Sr. Engineer|tom.barrett@amd.com|v:512-462-6856 | |AMD PCD MS-520 | 5900 E. Ben White|Austin, TX 78741 |f:512-462-5155 | |...don't take no/take hold/don't leave it to chance ---Tasmin Archer | |My views are my own and may not be the same as the company of origin |
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
In article <C62B7n.6B4@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes: |> In <1ren9a$94q@morrow.stanford.edu> salem@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bruce Salem) |> writes: |> |> >In article <C5ztJu.FKx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike |> Cobb) writes: |> >>Why is the NT tossed out as info on Jesus. I realize it is normally tossed |> >>out because it contains miracles, but what are the other reasons? |> |> > It is not tossed out as a source, but would it be regarded as |> >unbiased and independant? |> |> This brings up another something I have never understood. I asked this once |> before and got a few interesting responses, but somehow didn't seem satisfied. |> Why would the NT NOT be considered a good source. Contradicting itself on facts, for example. jon.
19talk.religion.misc
In article <1993Apr5.000007.27707@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mbond@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mimi) writes: >In article <1993Apr3.211910.21908@news.acns.nwu.edu> dmeier@casbah.acns.n >u.edu (Douglas Meier) writes: >>In article <1pkmo9INNg7@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> wdstarr@athena.mit.ed > >>(William December Starr) writes: >>> >>>And what difference does it make? If homosexuals should not be treated >>>as equals with heterosexuals in the eyes of the law then it doesn't >>>matter if they comprise an overwhelming majority of the population, and >>>if they should then it doesn't matter if, numerically, they're only an >>>infinitesimal minority, right? >>> >>And if it makes no difference, then shoving a false number down my throa > >>shouldn't be a high priority. After all, why should a minority group ne >d to >>inflate their numbers in order to justify the rights they claim they des >rve >>i.e. extra privileges they ask for? >> >>If someone beats up a homosexual, he should get charged for assault and >>battery. Why must we add gay bashing to the list? Isn't this a sort of >>double jeopardy? Or am I just being a fascist again? >> >> >>-- >>Douglas C. Meier | This Space for Rent >>Northwestern University, ACNS | >>This University is too Commie- | >>Lib Pinko to have these views. | dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu > > >You know, I have thought about the issue of if someone beats up a >homosexual, or a black person, etc., should the crime be specified >as something special. Shit, beating up anybody, regardless of race >and sexual orientation should be a very serious crime. If you >pick out those crimes which are committed against the opposite sex, >different race, or a different sexual orientation, is this a form >of favoring those groups over other groups. Hmm.. I mean, I think >that a crime committed against all people should be treated the >same. But, I know that there are many people out there who are >very prejudice against people who are different than they are. And >perhaps hate crimes laws are the only way to punish the bastards >appropriately. But, why should a person who commits a crime against >a wealthy protestant white by a wealthy protestant white be treated >on a lower level. Isn't this discrimination against the wealthy >white person. > >Hmm.. Any input out there? As a black person, I here about all >sorts of stories where fellow blacks are persecuted and beat up >because of their race. This really tears me up. But, a crime >against a white by a white should also be treated as a heinous >crime. > >Please respond. I would like to hear what other views are out ther. > >Ciao' >Mimi --------------------------- The federal government has used such laws to allow mutliple charges in order to prevent more crimes than would nromally occur just from two people being pissed off at each other. The federal government has an interest in the intent of the perpetrators in the pursuit of preventing violations of civil rights. It's the way they broke the back of the Klan, by putting a lot of people away for a very long time for harrassing blacks specifically. It is a principle that has been well recognized as constitutionally valid since over 100 years ago. It has been used whenever a select group was getting bashed or harrassed more than any other person would just for being part of a minority. It is the only way we made the defeat of the south stick after the Civil War. People who harrassed free blacks, when normally they wouldn't find themselves harrassing just anyone walking around were expeditiously tried and jailed for 5 to 8 years until nobody wanted to try it anymore. Now with the 14th amendment guarantee of equal protection under the law, the law can use multiple crime and severe penalty involving intent as much as is needed to protect even one human that is a hated minority to somebody. They can call out the national guard just for them, as they did the school girls in Alabama during desegregation in the 1950's, and the president can nationalize the state militia and turn the guns of the militia that were being used to bar blacks right around to point at the thousands in the crowd with an order to shoot that they would have to obey or face possible death by firing squad under the Uniform Code of Military Justice for failing to obey a direct order while under arms! And by god, they did! Those southern boys turned right around an fixed bayonets! And the governor was left standing and was arrested by the federal marshalls that had brought the order to nationalize the guard. And that's why we need such an ability in federal jurisdiction. -RSW -- * Richard STEVEn Walz rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (408) 429-1200 * * 515 Maple Street #1 * Without safe and free abortion women are * * Santa Cruz, CA 95060 organ-surrogates to unwanted parasites.* * * Real Men would never accept organ-slavery and will protect Women. *
18talk.politics.misc
As I promised, I would give you the name of the Panther's president. After Huizenga announced the team name, he announced that Bill Torrey is named the first president of the Panthers. A little Bio from _Sun-Sentinel_ Torrey, the architect of four consecutive Stanley Cup champions as persident and general manager of the New York Islanders. Throughout his 27 years in the NHL, Bill Torrey's bow ties have become as much of a signature as Andre Agassi's hair. The Panthers will introduce a uniform, insignia, and ticket-price information in early next month. In the meantime, Huizenga leaves the day-to-day operation in the hands of Torrey and Bob Clarke, the VP and GM. The Florida Panthers was chosen as the name of South Florida's NHL team to focus attention on an endangered species. There are 30 to 50 Florida Panthers in the Everglades National Park, the Big Cypress National Preserve and other parts of southwestern Florida. "The Panther is the quickest-striking of all cats," Torrey said. "Hopefully that's the way we'll play on ice." More BIO: In Torrey, Huizenga has the first man hired by the expansion Islanders in 1972 and the one most responsible for guiding the Islanders to four consecutive Stanley Cup championships (their first after only eight seasons) and 14 consecutive winning seasons. As executive vice president of the California Golden Seals, Torrey watched the Seals go to the play- offs in 1968, only their second NHL season. "I guess this completes my own personal hat trick", said Torrey, 58, a native of Montreal but a resident of Bear Lakes Country Club in Palm Beach. Jim G. other accounts: gorycki@sol.cse.fau.edu jimg@cybernet.cse.fau.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------- "I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat myself when under stress. I repeat..." Adrian Belew, "Indicipline" ---------------------------------------------------------------------
10rec.sport.hockey
In article <1993Apr21.233803.18471@bsu-ucs> 00cjmelching@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes: >I have a very important question that I haven't been able to find >an answer to...I've asked mechanics and others about this, but no >one can really give me an answer that satisfies me. >I just bought a brand new Kawasaki Ninja 250. I am a first-time buyer >as well as a first-time rider and this bike seemed to satisfy all my >needs. This may be the reason I don't know the answer to this question: >The tachometer has a sticker right on it that says "for the first 500 >miles DO NOT go over 4,000 rpm's, and for the next 500 miles, don't go >over 6,000. (referred to as the break-in period if you didn't know.) >Well, if I were to do that, I would never be going over 35 mph even in >6th gear!!! So my question is, will it hurt my new cycle to take it up >in the 6-7000 rpm range so that I can at least go the speed limit???? >Any information that ANY of you could give me would be greatly >appreciated!!!! Just send the reply to my account, or if you'd like, >back to the net. >Thank you very much for taking the time to read/reply >to this. >Chris Melching Go the speed limit. As long as your not at the salt flats, you arn't gonna frag yer ride. I wouldn't ride the DoD minimum until it had 500+ miles on it, but hell, I do that on a good weekend! ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====---- Stolen Taglines... HEY! Where did they go? You don't think .... naahh.
8rec.motorcycles
In article <May.9.05.41.56.1993.27583@athos.rutgers.edu>, gt7122b@prism.gatech.edu (Randal Lee Nicholas Mandock) writes: | Bob reminds me of my roommate. In order to disbelieve atheism, he says | he will need to be proven wrong about it. Well, I don't even waste | my time trying. I tell him that he'll just have to take my word for it. | In response, he tells me he will say an "atheist's prayer" for me. Who is the "atheist's prayer" being said to?
15soc.religion.christian
I used the information provided in the recent resource listings and tried to ftp to: ccu1.aukland.ac.nz [130.216.1.5]: ftp/mac/architec - *VISION-3D facet and received an 'unknown host' message. mail to Paul D. Bourke (pdbourke@ccu1.aukland.ac.nz) bounces with basically the same problem. Where'd he go???? Rick -- Rick Pavek | Never ask a droid to outdo its program. kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com | Seattle, WA | It wastes your time | and annoys the droid.
1comp.graphics
G'day people, Are there any MR2 owners or motor-head gurus out there, that know why my MR2's engine sounds noisy? The MR2's engine is noisy at the best of times, but not even a nice nose - it's one of those very ugly noises. I do an oil change every 2-3 months, and for about 2 months the engine noise sounds relatively quiet during driving and idling. At around the 3 month mark, after an oil change (I've been tracking this very thoroughly for months now) it starts to get that very disgusting noise, not so much during driving, but more so during idling. What's its problem? Also.. I don't know if it's just me, but if noticed a little performance drop. It just hasn't got the acceleration it used to. Any help/tips would be appreciated!! Worried.
7rec.autos
"The security of the system should depend only on the secrecy of the keys and not on the secrecy of the algorithms" -- Dorothy Denning jhart@agora.rain.com
11sci.crypt
# So the Blue PRess suggests that we bankrupt HCI by requesting information # and the concern by list members is that HCI will claim everyone that calls # as a new member. I think they will. I also think they will claim a new # MANDATE to ban all firearms from the solar system wheter we call and ask for # information or not! # # On the other hand, with due respect to the Editor of the Blue PRess, just # becaue Mike makes damned good presses, dies, powder scales, and got tired of # Lee's atacks DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERY DILLON FAN FOLLOWS WHAT MIKE CALLS FOR # LIKE HE WAS KARESH AND WE WERE TRANSDILLIDIANS! # # Our local State Assemblyman has called for a complete ban on all non-bolt # action military rifles and all assault weapons, a 7 day wait for purchase # permits { it currently takes 10 to 14 working days here in NC } and one # permit/year. The flood of calls he got was 7 for and 3 against. Guess who # called supporting his move? Guess what ILA is doing? Right? # # CHL #
16talk.politics.guns
jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (nga throgaw shaygiy) writes: : : Excuse me if this is a frequent question, I checked in : several FAQs but couldn't really find anything. You are excused... the answer varies from Mac to Mac so it would be a complex answer in the FAQ. : : I have a IIsi with the standard 5 meg memory and I want : (need) to add additional memory. But I'm on a budget. : I really don't need more than 10 meg max, so what is : the best (performance wise) and most economical way : to do this? Someone told me that I should only use : SIMMs of the same amount of memory, that is 4 1 meg, : 4 2 meg, etc. What if I just wanted to buy just 1 4 meg : and use the rest of what I already have? The manual : hasn't been very helpful with this. : The si uses a 32 bit wide data bus and therefore you must use 4 8-bit wide simms. Sorry, but no short cuts here. : Thanks. You're quite welcome. : Greg. -- My words, not Motorola's. * ______ * EQUAL rights NOT special rights gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com * \ BI / * I will NOT ride in the back of the bus. Greg Berryman (512)928-6014 * \ / * SILENCE = DEATH Motorola Austin, Texas, USA * \/ * First, be true to yourself. GLB mailing list ---> glblist@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com (Motorola only)
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
In article <1993Apr20.034558.28920@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >>Gary Varsho > >Halfway there, and unlikely to make it 3/4 of the way there. Wait a minute; I could swear that Varsho is white. Sherri Nichols snichols@adobe.com
9rec.sport.baseball
I see that our retarded translator, David, is still writing things that don't make sense. Hey David I can see where you are.. May be one day, We will have the chance to talk deeply about that freedom of speach of yours.. And you now, killing or torture, these things are only easy ways out.. I have different plans for you and all empty headeds like you... Lets get serious, DAVE, don't ever write bad things about Turkish people or especially Cyprus.. If I hear a word from you again that I consider to be a curse to my people I will retalliate... Muccccukkk.. TIMUCIN. -- KAAN,TIMUCIN Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1091a Internet: gt1091a@prism.gatech.edu
17talk.politics.mideast
In article <C5w2LE.JpK@ucdavis.edu> ez027993@dale.ucdavis.edu (Gary Built Like Villanueva Huckabay) writes: > (Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer writes: > >> Henderson's stat's are probably closer to DiMaggio's than you > >> think. > > >Then give me NUMBERS MAN!!!!! > >Winfield could WHIP henderson's butt. > > Well, you're absolutely, completely dead wrong, but thanks for playing. > As soon as I get to my office, I'll be happy to post Rickey and Dave's > career lines. Both are very fine players, but Henderson has consistently > been better. > > As for Rickey 'slacking' due to his contract problems this year -- any > comments? Considering he's basically picked up the entire team and put > them on his back, I think he deserves a little slack, and I think he > deserves a 4-year extension at $6M per year. Quickly. > I was upset at people dissing winfield. Henderson is the better player. WINFIELD can come close though. Lets see what rickey does for the rest of his career. People forget how good winny was in the 80's, and also how great rickey was.
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In article <93111.225707PP3903A@auvm.american.edu> Paul H. Pimentel <PP3903A@auvm.american.edu> writes: >What gives Isreal the right to keep Jeruseleum?It is the home of the muslim a >s well as jewish religion, among others.Heck, nobody ever mentions what Yitza >k Shamir did forty orfifty yearsago which is terrorize westerners much in the > way Abdul Nidal does today.Seems Isrealis are nowhere above Arabs, so theref >ore they have a right to Jerusaleum as much as Isreal does. If "ownership" were rightly based on "worthiness" there wouldn't be any owners. What is your point? As I understand it, Israel's "claim" on Jerusalem is based on 1) possession, and 2) the absolutely CENTRAL (not second, not third) role it plays in jewish identity. -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Tim Clock Ph.D./Graduate student [tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu] Department of Politics and Society "We have met the tel:(714)8565361/Fax:(714)8568441
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I am on the list under two addresses, I think: tom@capmgtsci.com and zuma!tom@netcomsv.netcom.com Please delete the second one, zuma!tom@netcomsv.netcom.com Thanks. Sorry for the screw up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Tulinsky Capital Management Sciences West Los Angeles tom@CapMgtSci.com 310 479 9715
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A short comment: >As you may recall, the early Christians were pacifists preferring to avoid >physical confrontation rather than dealing with it in like manner. The mother church of Jerusalem disappeared when the Romans took the city. Despite some pious legends, the evidence seems to be that the members of the church died fighting the Romans during what they believed to be the last days. We know that certain Apostles had nicknames connecting them to Jewish terrorist groups. For the average inhabitant of the Roman Empire (especially after centuries of political instability and terror), the Roman policies in Palestine were heartily approved of. When studied with a knowledge of cult psychology, Acts is eerily familiar, especially today. -- Harry Erwin Internet: erwin@trwacs.fp.trw.com Have found some interesting work...
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Hi, I am looking an integrated circuits for my Z80-based computer. The circuit is called Z80-STI (Serial Timer Interrupt), MK3801, and made by Mostek. Mostek is called SGS Thompson today. I have been in contact with SGS Thompson, unfortunately they me told that Z80-STI is obsolete. So, my question is if anyone know if I can get hold of that circuits. Are there any companies that specialize in selling circuits that are no longer in production? I have contacted several electronic brokers in Sweden, but without any success. I would appreciate if you could give me hint where I should continue looking. Even companies in the United States would be fine, since this circuit is pretty crucial to me. Thanks in advance. Thomas Thor Royal Institute of Technology Stockholm, Sweden
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|> Hi ... Recently I found XV for MS-DOS in a subdirectory of GNU-CC (GNUISH). I |> use frequently XV on a Sun Spark Station 1 and I never had problems, but when I |> start it on my computer with -h option, it display the help menu and when I |> start it with a GIF-File my Hard disk turns 2 or 3 seconds and the prompt come |> back. |> |> My computer is a little 386/25 with copro, 4 Mega rams, Tseng 4000 (1M) running |> MS-DOS 5.0 with HIMEM.SYS and no EMM386.SYS. I had the GO32.EXE too... but no |> driver who run with it. |> |> Do somenone know the solution to run XV ??? any help would be apprecied.. |> You probably need an X server running on top of MS DOS. I use Desqview/X but any MS-DOS X server should do. -- XX X Technical documentation is writing 90% of the words XX X for 10% of the features that only 1% of the customers XX X actually use. XX X ------------------------------------------------------- A PC to XX X I don't have opinions, I have factual interpretations... the power XX X -Me of X XX --------------------------------------------------------- X XX ...uunet!rutgers!mcdhup!inferno!tom can be found at X XX Periphonics Corporation X XX 4000 Veterans Memorial Highway Bohemia, NY 11716 X XX ---------------------------------------------------- X XX They pay me to write, not express their opinions...
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In <tervio.40@katk.Helsinki.FI> tervio@katk.Helsinki.FI writes: > Now what if the two teams were merged (this has been proposed in Tampere > with Ilves ( =Lynx) and Tappara ( =Axe). The fans wouldn't take it ! > They rather see their teams out of the playoffs most of the time or even > relegated than merged. It's not that difficult to understand, it's just > like here in Helsinki. You *grow up* being either a Jokerit- or HIFK -fan. > The other team is the last team in the world you would support. I'm not > talking about 'hate' but about extremely deeply rooted rivalry. "Deeply rooted rivalry?" Ahem, Jokerit have been around since 1967 and joined the top flight only in the early '70s. Helsingfors IFK have been around since 1897 but fans only started taking hockey seriously in the 1960s so I think you're exagerating here. > However, it's been proved that both fan groups can cheer the same team > - that's "the Finnish national team". Maybe that's how you could set up a > huge franchise in Finland. No one has ever said that the team must be > called after one city or play all its games on one arena. Just one Team > Finland and Team Sweden in the NHL just wouldn't make any sense - we have > way more talent than 1/24th of the total of North American talent. After a > couple of seasons you would never see the cup going anywhere outside the > Nordic (presuming that our teams would have the advantage in drafting > local talent, as prooposed). That's a rather bold claim, in the light of how successful the Canadian & American Olympic teams have been . . . and they've had to play according to our set of rules and on international ice. The 1992 Olympic teams contained about as much talent as your average expansion team. Canada had Eric Lindros, Sean Burke, Joe Juneau and Chris Kontos. Another four or five have been deep subs in the NHL. As for the Yanks, Keith Tkachuk, Scott Lachance, Bret Hedican, Shawn McEachern, Steve Heintze, Ted Donato, Joe Sacco and Bill Guerin have been 3rd/4th line players in the NHL, while Robb Stauber has done well for the Kings in goal. Nothing more. In fact, I'm sure that an All-Star team assembled from the best Finnish League teams would do no better in the NHL than Hartford or Tampa Bay currently are doing. --- But what happens if _all_ top-class Finnish & Swedish players gradually end up with Helsinki & Stockholm as the North American-based ones gradually retire and no Canadian/American team is allowed to draft new players from Scandinavia? Here is what THE HOCKEY NEWS scouts think of our NHL-based players: (28-30=superstar) (23-27=star) (18-22=NHL regular+) (13-17=NHL regular) ( 8-12=role player) FINLAND: D-Jyrki Lumme.......20 D-Teppo Numminen....20 D-Peter Ahola.......13 C-Jari Kurri........25 C-Christian Ruuttu..16 R-Teemu Selanne.....27 L-Esa Tikkanen......20 (Obviously, Selanne's ratings would be higher today than they were in January) SWEDEN: D-Ulf Samuelsson....21 D-Fredrik Olausson..20 D-Niklas Lidstrom...18 D-Calle Johansson...18 D-Kjell Samuelsson..17 D-Tommy Sjodin......13 D-Tommy Albelin......7 C-Mats Sundin.......26 C-Thomas Steen......18 R-Thomas Sandstrom..22 R-Ulf Dahlen........18 R-Michael Nylander..13 L-Per-Erik Eklund...18 L-Johan Garpenlov...16 L-Mikael Andersson..15 L-Jan Erixon........14 This would be interesting. Clearly, Finland's top five players (Winnipeg's Selanne & Numminen, Vancouver's Lumme, Los Angeles' Jari Kurri and New York's Tikkanen) are right up there with any five-man unit Pittsburgh & co. have. But I have my doubts about the home-based Finnish players - the national team did well in the Canada Cup and World Championships largely due to the efforts of Markus Ketterer (the goalie), 3-4 or the players listed above and luck. There's presumably a lot of decent players in Finland that wouldn't be superstars at the highest level but still valuable role players, however. My guess would be that the Finnish Canada Cup team would be a .500 team in the NHL. --- Sweden is easier to judge because they have more players in North America. Their points total (16 players) is 274 - seven more than Ottawa's 22 top players combined! If we estimate there are six more NHL regulars back home in Sweden, an all-Swedish team would assemble about 350-360 skill points. Deducting some points from Pittsburgh, NY Rangers and other teams that rely on Swedish players, the Swedish team would finish in sixth place - about as high as Boston, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal on paper! So, the "dynasty" talk isn't completely unfounded here. An all-Finnish/all-Swedish team might have an advantage because the players would be playing at home half of the time, won't have to adapt to a foreign country and a foreign language, and presumably play the wide-open European variant of hockey rather than have to learn the North American checking game. However, if free agency becomes a factor the top Scandinavian players still might end up playing for large-market teams after a couple of years the same way Edmonton's "dynasty" crumbled in the late '80s. Some fringe players likely will be drafted by other NHL teams as having an exclusive talent pool might be a bit unfair after all. I'd settle for a compromise, prohibit all European teams from signing a North American during the first two rounds but allow them to keep their top two players. After this, the amateur draft should be open to anyone. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > J O O J O O J O K E R I T ! ! ! Finland over Czech in the Final > B R U I N P O W E R ! ! ! Bruins over Blackhawks in 6 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- MARCU$
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In article <C5x75A.48H@ms.uky.edu>, msunde01@mik.uky.edu (Mark Underwood) writes: > In article <1r76sbINNkap@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> noeler@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU > (Eric Richard Noel) writes: >> I hate hard copy manuals, and would rather have all docs online - *not* >> because I want to copy the program, but because its usually faster and >> and convenient than sifting through an old book I can't find. > > Just MHO, but I prefer hardcopy books because you can have three or four > of them open spread across the bed (next to the desk in my dorm) and > reference them while using the program full-screen. The Windows Help > things come closest to good on-line documentation I've seen, but they > generally aren't detailed enough and would probably take a LARGE amount of > space (even compressed) which is at a premium on my system . . .. In > fact, the manuals are the primary reason I bought Borland's C++ compiler > instead of using the one the lab licensed (in the lab, of course). I've > got a SHELF full of books to help me out when I'm stuck. :-) To each > his own . . . :-) It is also much easier to scribble corrections on a hard-copy manual. Jeff White jhwhit01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
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I am sure some bashers of Pens fans are pretty confused about the lack of any kind of posts about the recent Pens massacre of the Devils. Actually, I am bit puzzled too and a bit relieved. However, I am going to put an end to non-PIttsburghers' relief with a bit of praise for the Pens. Man, they are killing those Devils worse than I thought. Jagr just showed you why he is much better than his regular season stats. He is also a lot fo fun to watch in the playoffs. Bowman should let JAgr have a lot of fun in the next couple of games since the Pens are going to beat the pulp out of Jersey anyway. I was very disappointed not to see the Islanders lose the final regular season game. PENS RULE!!!
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In article <1993Apr14.203800.12566@progress.com> damelio@progress.COM (Stephen D'Amelio) writes: >bmoss@grinch.sim.es.com (Brent "Woody" Moss) writes: > >>You could take a screw driver and hammer and start punching holes in >>various locations and when some black slippery stuff starts pouring >>out then you would know that the oil drain plug is nearby (within a foot >>or two anyway). Close the holes with toilet paper before refileing with oil >>though. > >You have to *refill* the engine with oil! Wow, no wonder I can't get >an engine to last more than my first oil change. Don't forget to >punch holes in the radiator too, it will spray nice refreshing water ^^^^^^^^ >on the engine and keep it nice & cool. ;-) > >-Steve Gee, you really make me confused. What is radiator? Where is it located? What does it look like? Will it release any radiation (since it sounds like radia-tion genera-tor) when you punch holes? hanguyen
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Hi, sometime ago there are some discussions on gaining CompuServe access thru the Internet. But I seem to misplace those articles. Can someone please refresh me where (which site) I can telnet to to gain access. Hopefully I can download files as well. Thanks, Arthur Lim Email : arthur@mailhost.scs.com.sg
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>>#> >>#> In article <1qk1pp$6hj@kyle.eitech.com> ekr@kyle.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes: >>#So what? The value I assign the results is as real *to me* as they can get. >>#I'm just not limited to how things are valuable to me. Aside from our own >>#desires for its results, science has no value. Nevertheless, it still >>#accurately describes how the universe works, humans or no humans. >> It accurately described what we can _say_ about how the universe works. -- jim halat halat@bear.com bear-stearns --whatever doesn't kill you will only serve to annoy you-- nyc i speak only for myself
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Hello, I'm curious what sort of neat features exist on high-end answering machines today. In particular, I'm interested in features of digital answering machines. Also, what is the typical amount of storage(in minutes) for these digital answering machines? The reason? I'm hacking together an answering machine program for my ZyXEL modem and I'm wondering if I'm missing something on my wish list. arthur -- "The first fact to face is that UNIX was not developed with security, in any reliable sense, in mind; this fact alone guarantees a vast number of holes." -- "On the Security of UNIX", Dennis M. Ritchie Arthur Tateishi ruhtra@turing.utoronto.ca
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In article <C5ytzo.569@news.dtc.hp.com> jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer) writes: >Russell had major backmarker problems before getting onto the banking. And the backmarker was Chuck Graves, I believe.
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Locked away, waiting for the tape-delay to start ... It's nice that the Devils are starting out their playoffs on network television ... too bad that their playoff game has been preempted on WABC-AM for an early-season Yankees baseball game! It's a 12-2 win by the Texas Rangers ... and they're delaying the tape-delay by another half-hour for the ballgame "highlights"!!! gld -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gary L. Dare > gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!! > gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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Why can't an aircraft be designed so that the pilot can always be maintained in a upright position, perpendicular to the plane of acceleration? With the visual helmets now being used that display some of the flight parameters and with a keyboard and manuvering equipment moving with the pilot, a pilot may be able to function at accelerations in excess of 12G. Is anyone currently pursuing this area or is there a reason why this is impossible at the present time? -- Walter A. Wohlmuth walter@capone.ccsm.uiuc.edu U. of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign
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In article <mssC50DFw.71u@netcom.com> mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes: > >At age 23 Alomar had a brilliant rookie year. True, he was limited >by injuries in his sophomore season, but his numbers both that yaer >and the year following were quite mediocre. This season the same >Bill James projects a ba of .265, OPS of 675. The same Bill James? Why do you say that? It sounds like you're suggesting Bill James had something to do with overhyping the kid to death. Au contraire; he was fairly critical of him after his ROY campaign, noting that he wasn't all-world as a catcher or a hitter. He called him basically average when everyone *else* in the media was predicting the next Johnny Bench or Roy Campanella. >Both of these young men were highly touted defensive catchers, >expected to be among the best ever in baseball. The reports I >read indicate that Lopez is very ordinary defensively. Which reports are those? >The Dodgers options are Parrish and Hernandez, and now only Carlos. >Piazza is 24. As long as he continues with his *very* hot bat, >they will keep him in the lineup because they need the offensive >production. When he cools off, look for the much better defensive >catcher Hernandez (only 25) to play more. I like Hernandez a lot, but if Piazza can catch the ball, you've gotta play him IMHO. He's a much better hitter, although Hernandez isn't a *bad* hitter. Right now, it sounds like Piazza will catch most of the time and Hernandez will be Candiotti's caddy since he can catch the knuckler. As long as they play up to their abilities, the Dodgers could have a very good catching tandem. >The Braves options are Berryhill and Olson. I agree that Olson is >nothing special, but I do think Berryhill is better than many >people on rsb believe. But both the Braves' catchers are very >good defensively (calling a game, blocking the plate, throwing) >and although they are somewhat weak offenivsively, they play on a team >that is not so much in need of another big bat. I think both are overrated defensively (see Nichols' Law of catcher defense), but that's something that's difficult to prove or disprove from your viewpoint or mine. About the only tangible thing we can look at is opponent's SB%, and that's clouded by how well your pitchers hold runners. Catchers ERA is a possibility, but it's subject to way too many biases. As for them 'playing on a team that is not so much in need of another big bat', I disagree here too. About the only chink in the Braves' armor is that they're weak offensively at several positions (CF, C, 2B, SS if Belliard plays, 1B unless Bream and Hunter form another super-platoon) and very weak defensively if Blauser plays. I'd like to see the Braves give at least one of Mel Nieves, Javy Lopez or Chipper Jones a shot, but much like the talent-rich Jays of recent years they'll be conservative and stick with what they have. I'm not saying that's wrong, just conservative. -- Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch Blue Jays - Do it again in '93 kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu New .. quotes out of context! "Not to beat a dead horse, but it's been a couple o' weeks .. this disappoints me..punishments..discharges..jackhammering.." - Stephen Lawrence
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In article <1rhddoINN4l9@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> admiral@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Steve C Liu) writes: >Okay, the Caps AGAIN are about to break out the golf clubs but before they >do, does anyone have the history of the Washington Capitals' futility >record in the playoffs? I remember that Terry's first year was the first >year that the Caps finally made it to the third round but before under >Brian, I noticed that every other year the Caps got to the second round >and the years in between they didn't make it past the first round. Is this >trend continuning? This is not a trend. The Caps were done. Goneso in five games, and it saves us Caps fans a lot of pain. I mean, it would be more painful if the Caps were up 3-1, watching them tumbled when they need ONE MORE WIN to clinch the series. How many times have they done that in their history? 1985 up 2-0 in a five game series against the Isles, lost 3 straight 1987 up 3-1 against the Isles, lost 3 straight 1992 up 3-1 against the Pens, lost 3 straight In other words, when they were about to clinch with 3 games to go, they were a pitiful 2-9, the lone wins being 1) a sweep of Philly in 1984 2) the 1990 win against the Rangers in the Patrick finals, the ONLY TIME they managed to get out of the division. Actually, Saturday's blown lead wasn't anything new. We all know the Caps are famous lead blowers in crucial playoff games. Examples: 1) game 4 against the Isles, 1985, led 4-2 after two, lead series 2-1, gave up 4 goals in the 3rd period, including the game winning goal in the last minute. After that goal, Bobby Carpenter botched a penalty shot. Series tied 2-2, lost game 5 a few days later. 2) game 4 against the Rangers, 1986, led series 2-1, led by 2 in the 3rd period, blew it. Lost game in OT and three consecutive games. 3) game 6 against Pittsurgh, 1992, led series 3-2, led by 2 in 2nd period. Blew it and the series. 4) game 3 against Isles, 1993, series tied 1-1, led by 2 after 2. Blew it. 5) game 4 against Isles, 1993, trailed series 2-1, led by 3 in 2nd period. Blew it again. When they were leading by 3 in game 4, I said to myself: "if they blew this lead, the series is OVER". They have lost all the momemtum. The Islanders believe they can come back no matter what the score is. I am still waiting for a Cap goalie who can carry the team, who can completely shut down the opposition when they are hanging on their dear lives in a crucial game. >The Admiral, a hopeless Caps fan. >P.S. We still remember that 3 OT loss to the Islanders! Aurggghhhhhhhhh! Well, some teams such have it and some teams just don't. When the Caps were frustrated year in year out by the Islanders, I was thinking "wait until Potvin/Bossy/Trottier/Smith retire". Well, they retired (even though Trottier was still able to haunt the Caps on a Pens uniform), yet another generation of Islanders were still doing the same thing. Well, I guess it has nothing to do with the players. -- Edward Lor lor@cbnewsk.att.com
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I am looking for some bar code fonts especially code 3 of 9. Did anybody know any ftp sites or BBS that I can download these types of fonts? Please email to me if you have any info. Thanks!
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In article <Apr.16.23.15.09.1993.1823@geneva.rutgers.edu> smayo@world.std.com (Scott A Mayo) writes: >... >I think Christianity goes down in flames if the resurrection is >ever disproved. ... Didn't Paul write that if the Resurrection is not true, we are the biggest fools of all? However, whether you believe in Christ or not, His teachings (e.g. love your brotherman as yourself), even if only followed at a secular level, could do a great deal to alleviate some of the problems we see today in the world. Even when I was a rabid atheist I couldn't deny that. Jeff Johnson jcj@tellabs.com
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/ iftccu:talk.politics.guns / hays@ssd.intel.com (Kirk Hays) / 3:31 pm Apr 13, 1993 / >Some of the pro-gun posters in this group own no guns. The dread >"Terminator", aka "The Rifleman", owned no firearms for several years >while posting in this group, as an example. There are others. Good point, Kirk. He's still around too. He's responded by email to a couple of my posts, and gosh darn, he's gotten down right civil! This happed about the time he got his first firearm. Wonder if there is a relationship here? Turns out that MOST people (at least the ones who are not criminals to start with) act responsibility once given the chance. Rick.
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>The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners. >The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3. >Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson, >and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that >homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general >male population. It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for >straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically >how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are. >-- Isn't is funny how someone who seems to know nothing about homosexuality uses a very flawed (IMHO) source of information to pass jusgement on all homosexual and bisexual men. It would seem more logical to say that since the heterosexual group of men is larger then the chances of promiscuity larger as well. In my opinion, orientation has nothing to do with it. Men are men and they all like sex. I am a gay male. I have had sex three times in my life, all with the same man. Before that, I was a virgin. So... whose promiscuous? Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they have no morals. Just because someone is heterosexual doesn't mean they do. Look at the world.... Statistics alone prove that most criminals are by default hetero... Look closely at the person, not the group. All flames will be ignored. :) Later, _______________________ ______________________________________ ( )( ) ( Brian Stone )( ) ( UNT-CAS Tech. Support )( Life without your touch is hard, ) ( )( but life without you in unthinkable. ) ( brian@gab.unt.edu )( ) (_______________________)(______________________________________)
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In article <1993Apr23.200913.6611@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes: >In article <1993Apr21.012139.13444@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes: >>When I say "black," I mean US-born black people for the purposes of this >>discussion. Hispanic players were in baseball before 1947, and one >>team in the 50's signed lots of hispanics because they went over better >>with the local audience than blacks did. >What about black hispanics? Good question. It's my impression, not backed by evidence, that general south-of-the-borderness seems to exempt one from the hiring-firing effect I was talking about. Back in the 20's there were some attempts to hire black Cuban ballplayers; they were rejected by the commissioner and others. >>>And why would more hispanics stick around than blacks? >>Don't know. But remember: this is the country that had special racial > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>laws for one group and one group only: blacks. Our national history > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Man, you had better do some SERIOUS reading. I really, really doubt that you >meant to say this. Well, what *did* I mean to say? Aside from some short-lived exceptions such as Japanese internment in WW II, only blacks were affected by laws regarding: slavery, Jim Crow, miscegenation, military service, etc. If my claim of exclusivity is not 100% airtight, that is, if you can come up with this or that exception, fine -- have a cookie. But compared to this list, no other racial group put up with a legal onslaught worth discussing at length. Roger
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kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes: > tfarrell@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thomas Farrell) writes: > >>Funny, but I've seen a LOT more than 10 or 15 seconds of that video, and >>I still think the police involved were guilty. I don't think there's any >>excuse they could POSSIBLY come up with that would make what they did >>OK. I don't care if Rodney King was satan himself, there's just no >>excuse. Now, whether they did it because he was black or they did it >>because they wanted to beat up on somebody they were arresting is >>another entirely separate question that I have insufficient information >>to make any kind of conclusion about. > > > How about the fact that you have a bunch of cops putting their lives o > n > the line day in and day out who are afraid as hell of a large black guy that > took a large amount of punishment and refused submit? Oh yeah, did you watch > the start of the video when King got UP out of his prone postion and charge > the cops? Sorry, the video cuts both was when you sit and watch it start to > finish. > > I have to agree with you... the police may have carried it a bit too far but Rodney King was no angel either. And I don't think ANY guilty verdicts should have been returned. I'm sure you know why they handed down guilty verdicts on two of the officers. It's quite simple really, it was a compromise to avoid rioting in the places where minorities think it's right to riot. I hate to say this, but I would have liked to see them riot with everyone prepared. It would be open season if your skin was even slightly brown. Hey, my motto is, you don't fuck with me or my stuff and you don't get killed. It's just that simple. Tony ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Anthony S. Pelliccio, kd1nr/ae // Yes, you read it right, the // -- system @ garlic.sbs.com // man who went from No-Code // -----------------------------------// (Thhhppptt!) to Extra in // -- Flame Retardent Sysadmin // exactly one year! // ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is a calm .sig! -- --------------------------
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For those who didn't figure it out, the below message was a reply to another in sci.crypt, for which the poster put t.p.g. in the Followup-To line. I didn't notice that. Apologies to those who were confused. The substance makes little sense unless one reads the prior messages. However, I don't wish to enter into this discussion here, as it will be yet another rehearsal of a long-tired set of arguments. Suffice it to say that I disagree both with the interpretation of "well-regulated" in the Second Amendment offered by gun lovers, and what I think to be their distortion of the same phrase in the associated Federalist papers. My Webster and my reading of the language convinces me that the word meant both under control, and disciplined, and not 'of good marksmanship'. I think the latter a special interest pleading. No one has yet shown a contemporateous reference in which "well regulated" unambiguously meant 'of good marksmanship', and not under control/disciplined, etc. Thus I continue to believe the Second Amendment is a militia clause and not an 'arming everyone' clause. Others are welcome to disagree (as I know many do) and little would be served by rehashing this topic in this particular forum. To avoid flames, or unproductive rehashings, I note that I've come in here to post this one message, just to clarify the one below. I'm now outta here again though I'm available via e-mail. David In article <strnlghtC5tr6D.n3n@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: > >Though I agree this is not the place to discuss guns, I note in passing that >a number of gun apologists seem to have ignored the words "well regulated" >in their distorted interpretations of the Second Amendment. > >David >-- >David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of > our information, errors and omissions excepted. > > -- David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of our information, errors and omissions excepted.
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In article <1993Apr19.151902.21216@st-andrews.ac.uk>, nrp@st-andrews.ac.uk (Norman R. Paterson) writes: |> In article <1qsili$fme@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes: |> >In article <1qlvh1$fh0@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: |> >|> In article <1qkn25$k@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes: |> >|> |> >|> #Do you mean it's moral to use force on someone who advocates |> >|> #the use of force? |> >|> |> >|> With a few provisos, yes. Minimum force, for a start. And, it |> >|> depends on what is being forced (on either side). |> >|> |> >|> #Or do you mean that sometimes we have to use force on such |> >|> #people out of necessity or self-defence, while recognizing |> >|> #that our own actions in doing so are not moral? |> >|> |> >|> My opinion is that our actions would be moral, and it would be |> >|> immoral not to act if action would be both necessary and effective. |> >|> Again, there many caveats and provisios. |> >|> |> >|> Note, my usage of "my opinion" is an admission that I don't have a lock |> >|> on morals, not that there is no truth about morality to have a lock on. |> > |> >You're admitting a lot more than that. You are admitting that |> >your morals are situational. You are admitting that the actions |> >of other people and the situation you are in help to determine |> >how you judge the moral significance of one of your own actions. |> > |> >If you employ X degree of force, that's not moral, but if you employ |> >X degree of force, but previously someone else has employed Y degree |> >of force, and the situation is thus-and-so, that *is* moral. |> > |> >This is quite different from saying "Employing force on other people |> >is immoral, period. Unfortunately, from time to time we are obliged |> >to do this immoral thing for reasons of self-preservation, and so |> >we have to bear the moral consequences of that. |> > |> >For what it's worth - and yes, I know you claim to be an agnostic - |> >it's this ability to re-label things from "immoral" to "moral" |> >that I find one of the *least* attractive qualities of the religious |> >mind. |> > |> >jon. |> |> I think the application of computers to law has something to add to this |> discussion. My knowledge of this is limited to reading a few papers in |> it; I had set my students an essay on the topic so I had to know enough |> to understand them. |> |> Before I did my reading, I was of the opinion that you could use a formal |> language to define laws, and a formal system to decide whether they had |> been broken or not. In principle you could leave it up to humans to find |> out the lower-level facts, and then just feed them in to the computer, |> which would be able to pronounce judgement. Or so I thought. |> |> From my reading I discovered that this is not yet possible, and may not be |> possible in principle. The reason is that every case that comes to trial |> is unique, with its own collection of special facts. It is beyond human |> power to specify all the possible circumstances that may bear upon a case |> in advance. We have to judge each one on its own merits, and simply take |> the formal law as a guide. The law is an ass: we must be careful to use |> it as a beast of burden and not expect anything more from it. |> |> How does this apply to this discussion? It makes me suspect anything that |> claims to be and objective or absolute moral standard. If we had such a |> standard, we'd be able to write it down unambiguously. Any such object |> must say, "this is right, and that is wrong" - yet that is exactly |> what research shows we can't do. Just as well, then, that I'm not claiming that my own moral system is absolute. jon. [list of references stretching from here to Alpha Centauri deleted.]
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I need help binding some value to the HOME and END keys on my keyboard. I have an rs/6000 w/ aix3.2.3ext running X11R5pl19 mit dist. I'm using a PC running eXceed for windows as my xterminal. The HOME and END keys do not send a value, and my application needs them to be defined. I used this in my Xdefaults to define the keys: varnet*VT100.Translations: #override \ <Key>Home: string("\033[8~") \n\ <Key>End: string("\033[7~") Then I xterm -name varnet. This works perfect, however the 7 and the 1 key on my keypad are also defined as \033[8~ and \033[7~. Any ideas? Help please. Thanks. -- Egan F. Ford egan%phony25.cc.utah.edu@hellgate.utah.edu
5comp.windows.x
Hi, I am programming in XView, SunOS 4.1.2 & OpenWindows 3.0. I would like to rotate some text and display it. I did read the FAQ in comp.windows.x but am not sure how do I translate it to XView. I would appreciate if someone can give me tips on how to do it. Thanx. - Mahendra. PS : As I am not a frequent news group reader, I would appreciate if answers/replies would be mailed to me. I will post a follow-up. -- *************************************************************************** Mahendra Chheda # mmc@cs.rit.edu # mmc7274@ritvax.isc.rit.edu # # Office : # Residence : Dept. of Computer Science # 440 Kimball Drive Rochester Institute of Tech. # Rochester, NY 14623 Tel. 716-475-2079 # Tel. 716-292-5726 ***************************************************************************
5comp.windows.x
In <1993Apr15.204210.26022@mksol.dseg.ti.com> pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron) writes: >There are actually only two of us. I do Henry, Fred, Tommy and Mary. Oh yeah, >this isn't my real name, I'm a bald headed space baby. Yes, and I do everyone else. Why, you may wonder, don't I do 'Fred'? Well, that would just be too *obvious*, wouldn't it? Oh yeah, this isn't my real name, either. I'm actually Elvis. Or maybe a lemur; I sometimes have difficulty telling which is which. -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
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robert.desonia@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Robert Desonia) writes: >I heard the rumor as well, but the story differed. Intel was not coming >out with the tripling clock 486, a clone from IBM was. No rumour, IBM's clock tripling chip was seen in some trade show last fall (COMDEX or something, I wasn't there). All you people who are drooling after this chip do realize that it has no FPU, just like 486SX, that Evil Marketing Ploy(tm) from Intel, don't you? It has 16K of internal cache, which probably is where the saved silicon real estate went. Because of some contract, IBM is not allowed to sell its 486 chips to third parties, so these chips are unlikely to become available in any non-IBM machines. Of course, nothing prevents other companies from implementing a DX3/99, but nobody hasn't even come out with a real 486DX (FPU and all) clone yet (although AMD soon will). -- Segmented Memory Helps Structure Software
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In article <mssC5y41D.230@netcom.com> mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes: >In article <1993Apr23.120044.15627@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes: > >Sigh. Here we go again. You started it... >>For predicting the future, it has been entirely meaningless. At least >>if it has meaning, we don't know how to find it. > >I did not say I could predict the future. You most certainly did! > Non-Clutch Clutch > AB H BA AB H BA >Sabo 1539 452 .294 259 59 .228 >Samuel 1564 383 .245 278 83 .299 Sabo is clearly a better hitter than Samuel. Yet you would pinch-hit Samuel because you predict that Samuel will be a clutch hitter and Sabo will be a choke hitter. Right? I'd call that "predicting the future". >If you were to have been the Reds manager at that time, I assume you >would have had some basis for letting Sabo hit rather than pinch- >hitting Samuel. I'm sure some of that basis would have utilized >prior performance. You just wouldn't have used this particular >aspect of prior performance. Is this not correct? Right. I would have used aspects of prior performance which have been shown to be consistent in the past. Overall performance, L/R splits, even matching hitting/pitching styles. All of these will give me some advantage if used properly. EVEN IF ALL ELSE WERE EQUAL, there would be no advantage gained by looking at past clutch performance. And in this case, everything else pointed to Sabo. >One more time. I did *not* claim to be able to predict the future. >I said that I accept the above data as an indication that Samuel would >have had a better chance for success in that situation than Sabo. That comes down to the same thing. When Perez left Sabo in, he was predicting the future, the next AB. He was predicting that Sabo was more likely to get a hit than Samuel. By supporting the swap, you are predicting the opposite. >And I am not dismissing your work. I'm stating my opinion. >You are saying that your work renders any opinion to the contrary >invalid, so that the retention of that opinion is some kind of insult >to your work. Well, yes. You are aware of its existance. You claim to be incapable of understanding it (though I suspect you are simply unwilling). Yet you rather forcefully state the opposite. You don't seem to think the work is worth reading (yet you obviously feel the topic is important). I'd say this is insulting. >I did not say that it is a consistent skill. > > I have said that it is an indicator of performance under a > certain set of circumstances. RIGHT! This is the beef. It has not proven to be an indicator of future performance under *any* circumstances. At least none that we've been able to come up with. If you know of some where it *is* an indicator of future performance, please let us in on your secret. >It is nice, however, to see that you will consider the possibility >that you actually could have some preconceived biases. Most certainly. As I have repeatedly stated, if you can come up with a study which even *hints* at a consistent clutch ability, I would love it! However the straightforward attempts at such a study have all failed miserably. >>Yeah. Hindsight is always 20-20. Doesn't that make you bright? This >>is a stupid argument and you know it. > >Ah. I knew we could get to the name calling. And there's that word >you like so much. Well, it was a stupid argument. (Are you honestly debating that???) Sure, we know Sabo didn't get a hit. We have no idea whether Samuel would have done any better or not. One AB most certainly doesn't prove anything! >I believe that by >season's end that Chris Sabo's batting average in clutch situations >will be significantly lower than his batting average in non-clutch >situations. I can't prove that it will happen, so I guess we'll >just have to wait and see. Is this simply a prediction for Chris Sabo for this year? Or is this a prediction for *all* batters who have, over the past few years, hit (xxx amount?) worse in the clutch than overall? If you mean the first, then as you say, we'll just have to wait and see. But the second is a much stronger statement. In fact, it suggests a rule. We can then test this rule on past data to see if it worked for recent years. I think you will agree that if the rule didn't work last year or the year before, that it is unlikely to do any better this year. Right? >Here's another one for you. In 1989 - 1991 Joe Carter's batting >average in clutch situations was significantly below his batting >average in non-clutch situations each year. I presume you think >this is random. I'm not going to get into case analysis. Sure, you can find somebody who hit poorly from '89-'91 and then hit poorly in '92 as well. You can also find those who hit poorly from '89-'91 and then hit *well* in '92. >No, this doesn't prove any overall statistical trend that can >be used to predict future performance across the breadth of >major league ballplayers. It just makes me think that in 1993 >Joe Carter's batting average in the clutch is not going to be >as high as his ba in non-clutch situations. Gambler's fallacy. Unless there is reason to expect consistency, a run proves nothing. Can you give us a reason to expect clutch BA to correlate from one year to the next? I've seen a detailed study of why I *shouldn't* expect it to correlate. >"Stupid". "Total idiot". > >My, my. Such hostility. The "stupid" was in reference to a statement which *was* stupid. (And I don't see how you can deny it.) As for "total idiot"? Yes. If you prove yourself unwilling to even *consider* evidence that might suggest that you are wrong, I would say the term fits nicely. So tell me? Does the term fit? Or do you have an open mind? -Valentine
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Maybe I should have been clearer. I have a Intel 386DX/25 that I would like to use to put together a system however all the motherboards that the local vendors are now selling are running either at 33 or 40 MHz. I guess I can cross my fingers and hope the CPU runs at that speed. ;^) I think I'll take Mark's advice and see if any of the boards have a socketed oscillator and head down to the local electronics store... Thanks for the info... =B^)
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In article <1993Apr21.032427.22464@leland.Stanford.EDU>, punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi) writes: > >As the heading indicates, it is impossible for me to fathom why Barry is not >batting 4th for the Giants behind Will Clark. Barry is such an awesome and >consistent hitter -- definitely the best in the National League. IMHO, to >have Williams, a streaky hitter (and not really a clutch hitter) batting >4th ahead of Bonds is simply an injustice to the Giants and fans of the >Giants. 2 simple reasons: (1) Batting Williams ahead of Bonds will create a Left(Clark), Right(Williams), Left(Bonds) situation in the middle of the batting order. This makes it tougher for opposing manager to change pitchers. (2) Having Bonds batting behind Williams means that Matt will get more good pitches to hit. This is important since he struggles so much with breaking balls. Opposing pitchers don't want to walk Williams to get to Bonds. Edward Hui
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Has anyone ever heard of FET-TRONS (or is it FETRONS, FETTRONS, ...). These were FET replacement modules for vacuum tubes. I'm looking for applications where they were used. Charlie Brett - HP Ft. Collins
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Some pixels on my PB 140 display disappear intermittently. They are not in a particular place but random. If anybody has suggestions I would appreciate e-mailings. Thanks. -- aris@psssun.pss.msu.edu ############# (beware of the 3 s) | /\ /\ | [| o o |] ______________________nnnnn______|_____U_____|______nnnnn______________________
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In article <C5L14I.JJ3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes: >Why isn't this falsifiable? I.E. There is no God, the world has existed forever >and had no starting point. ? How does one falsify God's existance? This, again, is a belief, not a scien- tific premise. The original thread referred specifically to "scientific creationism". This means whatever theory or theories you propose must be able to be judged by the scientific method. This is in contrast to purely philosophical arguments. -- Seth J. Bradley, Senior System Administrator, Intel SCIC Internet: sbradley@scic.intel.com UUCP: uunet!scic.intel.com!sbradley ---------------------------------------- "A system admin's life is a sorry one. The only advantage he has over Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare. On the other hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions of their own innards!" -Michael O'Brien
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In article <15437@optilink.com> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes: > >In article <1993Apr17.024646.28396@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st923336@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (BLORT! eeeep! Hwaaah.) writes: >> Wouldn't one expect more heterosexual men than gay men to be >> promiscuous simply due to a larger group of potential partners? >> >> Just a thought. >> >> -Matt > >You might -- except that gay men are MUCH more promiscuous than >straight men -- which shows how damaged and screwed up gay men are. Your starting to sound like a little child who wants ice cream. If you kick and scream enough you think people will believe you. Sorry proof by vigorous ascertion doesn't hold any water. I can insist that cats are dogs all day, it doesn't make it so. -- ------ Join the Pythagorean Reform Church! . \ / Repent of your evil irrational numbers . . \ / and bean eating ways. Accept 10 into your heart! . . . \/ Call the Pythagorean Reform Church BBS at 508-793-9568 . . . .
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In article <1993Apr17.181013.3743@uvm.edu> hbloom@moose.uvm.edu (*Heather*) writes: >Nutrasweet is a synthetic sweetener a couple thousand times sweeter than >sugar. Some people are concerned about the chemicals that the body produces >when it degrades nutrasweet. It is thought to form formaldehyde and known to >for methanol in the degredation pathway that the body uses to eliminate >substances. The real issue is whether the levels of methanol and formaldehyde >produced are high enough to cause significant damage, as both are toxic to >living cells. All I can say is that I will not consume it. Aspartame is the methyl ester of a dipeptide, so a product of its hydrolysis is going to be methanol, which can then be oxidized to formaldehyde. The amounts of methanol formed from the ingestion of aspartame-containing foods are completely in the metabolic noise, since you're forming equally minute amounts of methanol from other components of food all the time. In studies involving administration of high doses of the additive, blood methanol levels were undetectable. Methanol is a poison only in quantities seen in human poisonings, say 5ml and above. This is a consequence of its oxidation to formaldehyde and formic acid, two quite reactive compounds which at high enough levels can damage tissues like the retina and kidney, because at such high doses the body's detoxification system is overwhelmed. Interestingly, one treatment for early methanol poisoning is to get the person drunk on ethyl alcohol--vodka or an equivalent. That's because ethanol is metabolized preferentially over methanol by the enzymes in the liver. If the methanol stays as methanol and isn't metabolized to formaldehyde, it is actually relatively non-toxic. -- Steve Dyer dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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grady@netcom.com suggests using a common but restricted-distribution private key to allow public key system encrypted postings. In theory that will work fine as long as the privae key remains secure. In practice it would be a good idea to check to see if that would be a violation of some net rule, practice, custom, etc. I don't say it would be, just that it would be a good idea to check. This is not like rot13 where everybody can have the key trivially. It would also be a good idea to check to see if such posts would be forwarded by the sites needed to make the chain work. Of course there'd be no problem with a discussion group travelling over facilities entirely under the control of the members. Probably there would also be no problem with a mailing list approach. It might even be fun for some. -- David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of our information, errors and omissions excepted.
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jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Han) writes: >In article <RENS.93Apr22153654@stimpys.imsi.com> rens@imsi.com (Rens >Troost) writes: > >>> In this giant bally-ho over this Clipper chip I noticed a rather >>> disturbing trend in some of the E-mail and posts I've tossing back and >>> forth. >> >>Me too. A tendency on the part of some people to hide their head in >>the sand. > >I never advocated "hiding in the sand." I'm advocating a peaceful >solution while a peaceful solution is possible. Unless you want blood on >your hands. No one has mentioned violence other than you, Mr. Han. I believe you are imagining things. -- Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com -- Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
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In article <C5JLwx.4H9.1@cs.cmu.edu>, ETRAT@ttacs1.ttu.edu (Pack Rat) writes... >There has been something bothering me while watching >NASA Select for a while. Well, I should'nt say >bothering, maybe wondering would be better. When >they are going to launch they say (sorry but I forget >exactly who is saying what, OTC to PLT I think) >"Clear caution & warning memory. Verify no unexpected >errors. ...". I am wondering what an "expected error" might >be. Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but In pure speculation, I would guess cautions based on hazardous pre-launch ops would qualify. Something like "Caution: SRBs have just been armed." It does raise an interesting question as to how hard it is to pick out an Expected Error from an Unexpected Error in the heat of the moment.
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1985.5 Porsche 944 - Turbo trim (spoilers) - graphite black - all around excellent condition - removable factory sunroof - leather interior - new A/C - new timing belt - bra - 90k miles $9900 OBO - Patrick -- Patrick Boylan, - Wind River Systems, Alameda, CA - pat@wrs.com
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In article <ofp1qP600VpdINppwh@andrew.cmu.edu> Nanci Ann Miller <nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >timmbake@mcl.ucsb.edu (Bake Timmons) writes: >> There lies the hypocrisy, dude. Atheism takes as much faith as theism. >> Admit it! > >Besides... not believing in a god means one doesn't have to deal with all >of the extra baggage that comes with it! This leaves a person feeling >wonderfully free, especially after beaten over the head with it for years! >I agree that religion and belief is often an important psychological healer >for many people and for that reason I think it's important. However, >trying to force a psychological fantasy (I don't mean that in a bad way, >but that's what it really is) on someone else who isn't interested is >extremely rude. What if I still believed in Santa Claus and said that my It should be noted that belief in God is in itself no more a behavoral imperative than lack of belief. It is religion which causes the harm, not the belief in God. Dan
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The only Mormon I ever know who was in the FBI considered J. Edgar Hoover to be an A-1 turd. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes: >We have NO evidence that BATF & FBI would not have started shooting >when and if people had started coming out of the burning building. Oh? How about the press? If the BATF & FBI were going to shoot people leaving a burning building, don't you think they would get rid of the press first? --Tim Smith
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I feel compelled to complain: the statement that recent observations rule out merging neutron stars as sources of gamma-ray bursts is utterly false, even though it is popular enough to make it to BATSE press releases. The idea behind the statement is as follows: "if you smack two neutron stars together, or have a neutron star be gobbled up by a black hole, a lot of energy is released, enough for a gamma-ray burst at a cosmological distance. But, so the reasoning continues, this energy is released below a lot of matter, so the radiation becomes thermalized and you expect to see roughly a blackbody spectrum. The observed spectra are strongly non-thermal, so this model must be wrong." As so often, the fault lies with the imagination of the person who was trying to prove the model wrong rather than with the model. It may be that the initial energy release is not seen as a gamma-ray burst, but the 'fireball' of energy and matter that is created may spew out a relativistic flow. When this slams into the surrounding medium, a strong flux of non-thermal gamma rays results, which may carry off a substantial fraction of the initial total energy. All this is not my idea: it is in a series of papers by Martin Rees, Peter Meszaros (sorry for the missing accents:-) and co-workers. It is certainly not a complete model, but it may well be the best one around (summing over all proposed distance scales). An alternative proposal for what creates the initial fireball, by the way, is the so-called 'failed supernovae' scenario by Stan Woosley, in which a very massive star at the end of its life collapses to a black hole. If the stellar core was rotating, part of the infalling matter will be temporarily halted because it is supported by centrifugal force, and form a very dense neutron torus that accretes onto the black hole. This beast may spew out a jet along the rotation axis, which again constitutes relativistic flow. The rate of such events may be much higher than that of neutron star mergers, but the flux may be more strongly beamed, so that the net rate of bursts observed on Earth stays the same between the two scenarios, but the energy released per event can be a lot less in the failed supernova scenario. On another note: I do believe that the distance scale must ultimately be resolved via some classical astronomical method such as finding counterparts to the bursts at other wavelengths, or finding a definitive signature of some known class of objects in the distribution of positions and fluxes. Theorists have historically not been too successfull in finding the distance of any object by proving that there is only one possible way in which the object can work, and therefore it *must* be so-and-so. Ralph Wijers
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In article <C5HIyr.327@news.cso.uiuc.edu> eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes: >Brad, You're a very sick son-of-a-bitch. Wishing for someone's death, even if >they are your enemy, is very deranged. I really have pity for you and those >like you. Did you acquire this philosophy from Islam? >>Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU) >Ed. This is an interesting question to ponder. Did Brad/Ali's sickness make Ayatollah-style Islam attractive to him or did this new religion that Brad/Ali has formally adopted give him this sickness? -- Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
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In article <1qkhju$43c@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: >In article <rayC5JAK7.D7E@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes: >#frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes ... >#>Plus questions for you: why do subjectivists/relativists/nihilists get so >#>het up about the idea that relativism is *better* than objectivism? ># >#To the degree that relativism is a more accurate decription of the >#truth than is objectivism, it provides more power and ability to >#control events. >I think you lose the right to talk about THE truth once you say values are >relative. Accuracy is a value judgement, too. It so happens I agree with >the substance of what you say below, but it's clear to me that at least >*some* values are objective. Truth is better than falsehood, peace is >better than war, education is better than ignorance. We know these things, >if we know anything. And what is "better?" Better is a subjective value judgement. I tell you a lie, and as a result you give me all your millions of dollars of assets and move to India. From my perspective, falsehood was a substantially "better" than telling the truth. (How do you think a log of gurus make a living?) I attack your country in war, kill everyone and take your rich natural resources. Before I did this, I was living in poverty. Looks to me like war was much "better" than peace. I see no need to go any further. Once you address this little issue of "betterness" being non-relativistic we can continue. >-- >Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That' >odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon eric
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>Any information that ANY of you could give me would be greatly ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^ >appreciated!!!! Just send the reply to my account, or if you'd like, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >back to the net. >Chris Melching > >00CJMELCHING@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU My vivid imagination sez this is almost close enuff. $mail_to 00cjmelching@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu /users/neal/dod/faq.dod but...... naw!!! -- ============================================================================= Neal Howard '91 XLH-1200 DoD #686 CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX) doh #0000001200 |355o33| neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org Std disclaimer: My opinions are mine, not CompuTrac's. "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890) =============================================================================
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cica.indiana.edu pc/drivers the current version is 2.0 ?
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
> Can someone recommend how to ship a motorcycle from San Francisco > to Seattle? And how much might it cost? I shipped my K75S from Portland Oregon to Daytona for this years bike week (I rode it back!). The company I used is The Federal Co's. You can reach them at 1-800-747-4100 ex 214. You either have to be a AMA member, or maybe it is just a discount for AMA, not sure. (Call 1-800-AMA-JOIN to become an AMA member) The shipping cost is based on the number of miles. It cost me about $500 for Portland to Orlando. $80 of that was insurance. All I had to do is ride it to the shipping dock and siphon the gas out. I think they can also pick up the bike from any business. The bike arrived on-time at Orlando. All I had to do was adjust the mirrors and add gas. The bike was in perfect shape! --Gary
8rec.motorcycles
I have a WANGTEK tape controller card (Revision E) that was used with the Sytos backup system to take backups of a friend's system. That system has crashed and I'm attempting to restore it. Unfortunately, the documentation for this ancient card has been lost in the mists of time, and I need to know the DMA, IRQ and address for this card. Can anyone suggest how I could determine these things? There is a bank of dip switches on the card which are set to: --------------------- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 UPUPUP UPUPUP UPUP UPUP ------OPEN---------- Thanks for your time. -- This posting is definitive. bljeghbe'chugh vaj blHegh. Wayne McDougall :: Keeper of the list of shows better than Star Trek(TM) :: Ask me about the Auckland Festival of Missions, 18-25 April, 1993 I always change my mind when new evidence is available. What method do you use?
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
In article <C5tBwr.5xI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tomgift@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Gift) writes: > No, they didn't have electrical power, but no, I don't find the idea of > Davidians calmly cooking lunch with gas masks on as the FBI knocks the > buildings down very credible,either. I don't know how quickly YOU can get a woodstove to heat up from a cold start, but mine takes about three hours. > It's not like this whole discussion is relevant. It started when some- > one made the wholly unsubstantiated allegation that the wood stove ig- > nited NAPALM the FBI shot into the buildings. Mox nix. The BD's were prepared to provide their own heat and light, and were doing so for weeks while the power was out. That means the compound contained containers of flammable liquids or gases (that could be busted by a tank intrusion), plus ignition sources, which no one can tell for sure were all off at the time. > I'm not a groveling apoligist for the feds, far from it. But wild ac- > cusations like this are ridiculous and obfuscate legitimate criticism of > their conduct in this whole affair. On the contrary. We are proposing alternate scenarios. The people who are coming to wild conclusions are the feds, who are absolutely positive how the fire started, even though none of them were in a position to see it, either (and the stories they "hear" from their prisoners changes hourly). -- cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
16talk.politics.guns
Being a browser of this group for some time, and being very concerned about the clipper chip proposal, I am hoping someone with more knowledge can help out. Who would be the most influential people to write to, protesting the obvious next step hinted at by this proposal ? (Heads of what committees, etc.) What are the major flaws in the plan ? (From a cryptological standpoint) -- Shaun P. Hughes "Facts are Stupid Things." sphughes@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu Ronald Reagan Republican National Finger for PGP 2.2 Public Key Convention 1988
11sci.crypt
In article <28641@galaxy.ucr.edu> datadec@ucrengr.ucr.edu (kevin marcus) writes: >Are there any public domain or shareware astronomy programs which will >map out the sky at any given time, and allow you to locate planets, nebulae, >and so forth? If so, is there any ftp site where I can get one? I posted my public-domain MSDOS program "sunlight.zip" to "sci.astro" yesterday. It easily locates the sun, moon, and planets, and can also be used to locate other objects if you input their Right Ascesion and Declination. Use "uudecode" to extract. -- Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized! "Marxism and feminism are one and that one is Marxism" - Heidi Hartmann and Amy Bridges, quoted by Catharine MacKinnon above the first chapter of her "Toward a Feminist Theory of the State"
14sci.space
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University Keywords: In article <93111.225707PP3903A@auvm.american.edu> Paul H. Pimentel <PP3903A@auvm.american.edu> writes: >What gives Isreal the right to keep Jeruseleum? It is the home of >the muslim a s well as jewish religion, among others. Israel has a right to keep Jerusalem for many reasons. They include the fact that the majority of the citizens are Israeli, the fact that Israel maintains religious freedom for all people, and the historical connection of Judaism to Jerusalem. When Jerusalem was devided by a Jordanian invasion in 1948, the cease fire agreement included the right of individuals to visit religious shrines. This cease fire agreement was violated by Jordan, who did not allow Jews to visit holy sites under their control. The Jordanians also bulldozed every synagoge in the city. They turned a Jewish cemetary into a hotel, and used the gravestones in their latrines. Israel has allowed individuals of all religions into Jerusalem, protected holy sites, and demonstrated its fitness to control the city. Also, I should point out that Islam is not centered in Jerusalem, but has holy sites there. The home of Islam is Mecca, where all Muslims should make a pilgramage (the hajj). Unlike Israeli Jerusalem, Jews and Christians are not allowed in Saudi Mecca. Adam Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu "If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
17talk.politics.mideast
This week, many of you have asked about my earlier postings on OT, NT and Intertestiment exegesis on the homosexual issue. I have refered you to the FAQ files, which I find out, no longer contains them. They are too long for me to mail to each of you, each article, but will try to get them back on the FAQ file. Because of the renewed interest on this subject, I will type, with permission, an article by James DeYoung. I think it is one of the best articles that I've read todate from the conservative position. I can't post it all at once, so it will come piece meal and not daily. After I'm done retyping the entire article, I will make it available for the FAQ file. Talk to clh. Also, for those who can't get through to me, you may try one of these: REXLEX@FNAL.FNAL.GOV LEXREX@ALMOND.FNAL.GOV Loren Senders@ADMAIL.FNAL.GOV THE SOURCE AND NT MEANING OF ARSENOKOITAI, WITH IMPLICATIONS FOR CHRISTIAN ETHICS AND MINISTRY James B. DeYoung Professor of New Testament Western Conservative Baptist Seminary Portland, Oregon Traditional interpretation of arsenokoitai ("homosexuals") in 1 Cor 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10 refers to sexual vice between people of the same sex, specifically homosexualitiy. Some restrict the term's meaning to "active male prostititute," but stronger evidence supports a more general translation, namely "homosexuals." More recently the definition "homosexual" has been opposed on clutural and linguistic grounds, the claim being that the term "homosexuals" is anachronistic. In addition, criticism of the traditional rendering says the term today includes celibate homophiles, excludes heterosexuals who engage in homosexual acts, and includes female homosexuals. A concern for acts instead of the modern attention to desires was the only factor in the ancient world. The foregoing oppositition to the translation of arsenokoitai by "homosexuals" has a number of debilitating weaknesses. Finally, this study argues that Paul coined the term arsenokoitai, deriving it from the LXX of Lev 20:12 (cf. 18:22) and using it for homosexual orientation and behavior, the latter of which should be an occasion for church discipline (I Cor 5-6) and legislation in society (1 Tim 1:8-11). ************************************* INTRODUCTION Coincident with the rise of the gay rights movement in recent years has been an increasing focus on the biblical statements regarding homosexuality or sodomy. As part of this focus, the meaning of the term arsenokoitai, used twice by the apostle Paul (1 Cor 6:9, I Tim 1:10), has received vigorous scrutiny. This issue is particularly crucial to contemporary society since so much of modern ethics is shaped by biblical statements. More particularly, the concern over gay rights and the place of gays or homosexuals in the church and in society require the resolution of biblical interpretation. This study of historical, linguistic, and literary matters will survey and evalutate recent proposals for the meaning of arsenokoitai and present evidence to point to a resolution. Several writers and their positions represent the modern debate on this word. Three authors, Bailey, Boswell, and Scroggs, have provoked considerable discussion and significantly encouraged the wider acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle in society, in the church, and in the ministry. Footnotes: _______________________ 1. For convenience sake, the term "homosexual" is used to encompass both same-sex orientation and same-sex behavior. The meaning of this term is one of the main considerations of this study. 2. These times are differnt from just over a century ago. Then P Fairbairn (Pastoral Epistles [Edinburg, 1874) 891) could write of arsenokoitai thit it is a "term for which fortunately our language has no proper equivalent." Unknowingly he thereby touched upon the basis for the contemporary debate and study. THe present writer endorses the Pauline authorship of the Pastoral Epistles on the basis of internal and external evidence (see Donald Guthrie, New Testament Introduction, [4th ed; 1990] 621-649, for an extensive discussion and citation of supporters of the Pauline authorship). 3. For example, see Scroggs' influence on M. Olson, "Untangling the Web," The Other Side (April 1984): 24-29. For a study suggesting a further prohibition of homosexuality in the OT, see A. Phillips, "Unconvering the Father's Skirt," VT 30/1 (Jan, 1980) 38-43. For a bibliography of other sources dealing with arsenokoitai, see the Wisondisc Religion Indexes (NY: H. Wison Co., 1987).
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QUESTION: What is the EXACT entry (parameter and syntax please), in the X-Terminal configuration file (loaded when the X-Terminal boots), to add another system to the TCP/IP access control list? BACKGROUND: I have two unix systems, 1. an AT&T 3B2 running X11R3 and MIT's X11R4 and 2. a Sun SS10 without any X. I want to have a window to the Sun and the 3B2 on the NCD X-Terminal at the same time. I can do this if I manually set the Network Parameter TCP/IP Access Control List to off, then login to my telnet session. Not Great! I've tried to get "xhost" to work and failed. Either my syntax is wrong or the X11R3 implementation is bogus. I am trying to edit the NCD configuration file that is loaded when the NCD boots. No matter what entry I add or edit, the NCD still boots with the TCP/IP Access Control list containing only the 3B2. My manuals are worthless so any help would be most appreciated!! Thanks! Ann Marie Barden abarden@afseo.eglin.af.mil
5comp.windows.x
I recently purchased the then current Pkg.# 486dx-33 for $2395 (but changed to NEC 3FGx monitor upgrade). Buy this Pkg. #3 now - for $100 more, you now get a bigger HD - 340mb with @256 HD cache. 30 days ago, when I bought this pkg., it was 245mb with @132K HD cache. This is a great deal although it is generally recommended you at least upgrade to the 15' Zeos (CTX) monitor for $99 more I believe. Whether you also upgrade to the Diamond Viper video card is your choice. I stayed with the Diamond Speedstar Pro. Zeos Tech Support is really good - call after normal business hours to get the fastest access. The hardest part about buying a Zeos is the wait till it is delivered - once you order you can hardly wait to get it! There are quite a few good mail order houses around - lots of bang for buck with Zeos.
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Disaster! Finland was beaten by Czech 1-3 (0-0,1-1,0-2). Finland will be 4th of pool B and will most certainly meet Canada in the quarter final on wednesday 28th. Lack of scoring skills has been the major problem of team Finland throughout the tournament. Briza (goalie) was the MVP of the Czech team and Tikkanen was the MVP of the Finnish team. Jarkko #14
10rec.sport.hockey
In sci.electronics timd@fenian.dell.com writes: >Anyone know a reasonable circuit for programming PALs? I am interested >in programming a wide range of EPLDs but would be happy with something >that could handle a 22V10 or thereabouts. I too would be interested in ANY information on the subject of programing PALS etc..... Better to know what your on about before you start something, I always say. Often saves you a packet as well !! Thanks in advance.. Chris ;-) +====================================================================+ |Name : Mr Chris Smith | Twang on that 'ole guitar ! | |Addrs: scst83@uk.ac.liv | | |Uni : Liverpool University |Quest: To build more and more hardware | |Dgree: Computer Science | | +====================================================================+ "What ever the Sun may be, it is certainly not a ball of flaming gas!" -- D.H. Lawrence. * All views expressed are my own, and reflect that of private thought. *
12sci.electronics
In article <uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu-230493173928@spam.dom.uab.edu> uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu!gila005 (Stephen Holland) writes: >In article <1993Apr23.211108.26887@midway.uchicago.edu>, >bmdelane@quads.uchicago.edu (brian manning delaney) wrote: >> >> One thing that I haven't seen in this thread is a discussion of the >> relation between IBD inflammation and the profile of ingested fatty >> acids (FAs). >> [....] > [....] >even write a letter to the editor - it is a good point. By the way, >the abbreviation EPA is not in general use, so I do not know what >fatty acid you are speaking about. Sorry -- I mean eicosapentaenoic acid. >And to Brian an U of C --- There is a physician named Stephen Hanauer >there who is a recognized expert in the treatment of IBD. You might >give him a call. Coincidentaly, just yesterday I was (finally) referred from the clinic to Hanauer. I'm seeing him on May 24. I'll report what he says about this question. >the treatment of IBD. If you call please say hello to him from me, >I was looking at U of C for a position, and perhaps still am. Will do. -Brian Delaney
13sci.med
I am thinking of buying a used Audi 90 Auto. These cars look good and Audi do have a good rep. for these cars in Europe (where I'm from). I was just wondering if there anything about these cars that I should know. --Parms.
7rec.autos
In article <C51CJB.L5z@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner) writes: >They were, and even if Washington might consider Patty a bust, I'd rework >that trade in a minute. Druce has been a complete and utter bust here, >only 5 goals. Well, Druce pretty much sucked when he was with the Caps. He had one good **playoffs** (not season). oh well. The Caps are notorious for making stupid trades anyway, as can be seen with the Cicarelli and Hrivnak trades. Sigh. In another note... I'd have to say the Caps biggest surprise was Cote, as many Caps fans had been expecting a lot from Bondra already. -- GO SKINS! ||"Now for the next question... Does emotional music have quite GO BRAVES! || an effect on you?" - Mike Patton, Faith No More GO HORNETS! || GO CAPITALS! ||Mike Friedman (Hrivnak fan!) Internet: gtd597a@prism.gatech.edu
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