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but, it just is amazing, you know, Right. need to teach them good values. That's true, that's true, and, uh. Of course, if I say this is a good value, someone else is going to stand up and say, oh no. And the A C L U is going to get after them and have a lawsuit. Which is going to take twenty years to resolve, you know...
Okay, well, hey, I appreciate the call. Nice talking to you today. You to. Have a good life, uh. Hi, Wanet is his last How are you? I'm doing fine. Where you from? I'm from New England. Massachusetts. Okay. I'm from Berkeley, California. Wow! This is quite a, quite a long distance. Yeah, it certainly is. Do you have an...
Use to, but none, none right now. How come, uh, you don't have any now? You get tired of them? Well, I, I live in an apartment building and, and, uh, and, and, it, it, it's just not feasible you know. Yeah. I'd love to have a dog, you know. I've got a little doggy, uh, that I've had quite, uh, quite a long time. In fa...
my, I got my mom a teacup little mutt , not too long ago. This is a little bigger than a teacup. Yeah. And, uh, it's funny how, uh, how I, I, uh, acquired this animal. Uh, when I was, uh, married, my, uh, ex-wife had said that she had a friend who had a little puppy. That she needed, uh, the woman needed someone to ba...
But she's, she's usually pretty good. Yes, well. My, my mother has one that's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, teacup and, uh, it's made such a difference for her. But, you know, just, I, you know, the way my mom's presence countenance is, just, just for having a puppy but, you know, having this dog she's had it for, I guess t...
Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, uh, I, I, I typically am not a cat person. I have a friend that, uh, has on occasion, uh brought her cat over for me to keep for, you know, from time to time And this cat is like no other cat I have ever seen. And, uh, it would sleep on my chest, you know. Yeah. It's just, it's just a great cat, b...
You, they, they own you or, or, you know, grant you with you their presence, you know. Yeah, right Yeah. Right. That, yes, we're supposed to appreciate them. Well, my, my dog when I came home, uh, when I come home in the evenings, my dog greets me at the door. I don't know that a cat would do that, uh Yeah. I used to h...
So. Yeah. I know like when she has an accident, I know she's not doing it on purpose. When when she was younger, she used to do that to get even with me, Yeah. Uh, and, and, you know, some people might not believe that but, but, but, uh, I do Sure Oh, absolutely. Like if I, if I put her in a room all by herself and clo...
Oh, yes. Animals have a way of talking Alfie did. I tell you if I could have gotten a hold of that cat that day. I, I don't know that I'd, uh, that I'd trade my dog in for the world. Uh, it was about two years ago she got sick on me and I took her to the, uh, to the vet's because she wasn't eating and, and, uh, she was...
and I brought her to a different vet this time and I told the vet what medication I had given her and everything And, uh, he gave me the medication, the same medication that I gave her the last time and she was okay and she's been okay every since. It's been about two years now. Huh. Well, that's great, it really is. I...
and, uh, the cat got sick. So she took the cat to the vet and she had the cat there for two days and then the cat died. So the doctor had called her up and said, uh, your cat died and you owe me this bill, and oh, by the way, do you want me to, to bury the cat So, it cost her three hundred dollars, uh, and she didn't g...
they, they claimed they did the best that they could have have and then the cat, uh, died. So My goodness. I'm, I'm looking for another cat for them. Uh, I, I've, I've got a little kitten, uh, that's still, uh, just being born right now. So another five or six weeks I'll be bringing the little kitten over to, uh, to my...
Okay. Bye now. Maybe we'll talk again sometimes Okay. What is that sound? That's my buzzer at the door Oh, okay. I'll let you go. Okay. Right Thank you Uh, so what do you do to exercise? Uh, I, uh, weight train, uh, three days on and one day off. Uh-huh. I, uh, ride bicycles, uh, fifteen, twenty miles, I don't know, ma...
What about yourself? That's pretty impressive. Uh, I guess I bicycle. Uh, the amount varies as much as a hundred and fifty miles a week. Uh-huh. Uh, I guess a play softball one night a week. And I backpack a lot over the summer. Oh, really? Yeah, that's, that's about the extent of it. I mean, I don't do any of those th...
How long does that take you to get to work? Uh, about forty-five, fifty minutes. How how does that work, work out with, uh, storing your bike and showering and all that? Yeah, it can be a pain. Uh, basically, uh, I work on a campus so I can store my bike in my office and walk across the, uh, campus to the, uh, gym, use...
I've got a touring bike. Uh, though I haven't gone on any extended trips with it. Uh-huh. How about you, what kind of biking do you do? Uh, well, actually my wife just got me into it and I did an, did an internship at the Institute for Aerobics Research in Dallas, the Cooper Clinic, Uh-huh. and I learned all the health...
Uh-huh. And it was, it was kind of hilly and it was pretty tough, but, uh, I'm looking at, uh, doing a lot more of it because, you know, my wife is really into it, Oh, I see. and I, I kind of held her back a little bit this, this weekend. She wanted to go, go, go, but, you know, she wanted to stay with me Uh-huh. It's ...
One is more of a distance, and one's more, just, you know, they want to put some equipment on their bike and go for a tour. I've never really looked into that. That, you know, that's, my wife would just love that. Uh-huh. And I may do that sometime. There again, I'm just kind of a fledgling into this. Uh-huh. I've, it'...
I didn't know that, and, you know, until I came down here, and, kind of caught the fever. Wow. Yeah. Because I lived in Indiana all my life and, you know, you may say see one or two guys on a bicycle that, or above the age of fifteen or something, Uh-huh. but, other than that it's nothing up there like it is down here....
Um. It's free just go to the bike shock, bike shop and pick it up, and it's got all the rides coming up, so I guess I'm going to be busy about every Saturday this summer, going to a different ride. Oh, that's terrific. Yeah, see a little bit of Texas I've never seen before. Uh-huh. So, uh, how long have you been biking...
because it really, from what I understand, it really improves your, uh, cholesterol Um. and, you know, it, uh, it kind of knocks down two of the big risk categories for coronary artery disease which is, uh, uh, low cardiovascular fitness, and also, uh, you know, the cholesterol. Uh-huh. It gives you increased H D Ls an...
On average, yeah. When do you get to begin with the winters and all that? What time of the year do you usually embark on your, do you ride inside if you can't ride outside? No, I'm not that hard-core. I mean there are some people, in fact a lot of people will ride outside in the snow. They've got a, uh, mountain bike, ...
Uh, but, you know, up here it's only stopped snowing since then. Yeah. Uh, but, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's pretty good. It's, uh, the main, the main thing, I guess, for me is just to enjoy it because once it starts seeming like, you know, exercise and a chore I'll lay off it more. Right. So you, uh, change up your ro...
So it's fairly picturesque. Yeah. And, uh, so it's, it's, it's a good ride as long as you're not doing it every day, it's a good ride Yeah. That's true. Sounds neat. Yeah. It's kind of, I was wondering if I was going to talk with someone that never has exercised before and doesn't want to and everything else, but got a...
Take care. Bye. Bye. Okay. Uh, far as, you know, crime in the cities, I'm sure, like in yours it's pretty, pretty bad. Uh, probably the biggest thing we've got going now is the robberies and theft and probably murder are the two top ones that we have. Uh-huh. How about you? Uh, well, I don't actually live in the city, ...
Uh, but I do have friends that live in the city and I think that they get a lot of fallout from this war on drug thing. Uh, just because there are, like, crack houses, you know, on their street and stuff like this. Uh-huh. Do you live in a real small town or, or out in the country? I live out in the country, yeah. How ...
But, uh, right now our neighborhood is running about, uh, eighty percent of the homeowners have been robbed, sometime during their, their, uh, existence in that neighborhood. Wow. That's huge . And since that time everybody's got some sort of burglar system or, you know, uh, burglar alarms uh, and including the out, uh...
Uh, so, uh, I would say that's probably their prime motivation. They'll, they'll stock your house and, uh, look at your pattern and then go from there. So they're professionals? Uh, they classify most of them as professionals. Um. Uh, you get a few of them that are a little bit sloppier, uh, just taking, uh, you know, ...
Uh-huh. Right. And, But, I mean, that's going to tend to, I mean it seems to me that sort of approach will tend to simply make the cost of committing the crime slightly higher in other words, you've increased the probability of somebody being caught a little bit. The real question is how do you convince people not to c...
You know, if they're overcrowded, just keep cramming them in there till they just suffocate. Uh, Well, what about an innocent person who happens to have been found guilty? Uh, I think they'd have to go to extra measures to make sure a person's guilty, you know, in a lot of cases. Course, I, I know you can't be a hundre...
and, uh, you know, two counts of kidnapping, uh you know, the, the forty-five to the head, you know, just the, the mental anguish and the whole nine yards uh, you know, the guy only got five years. Uh-huh. Right. Wow. And, you know, he was out within two months because of the parole system. So what, what, Did you, did ...
Yeah. Uh, very But they give the guy a job in prison and make him pay his damn debt. Yeah. They don't do that here. Course they pay them, but they don't, you don't, you or the insurance companies never see any of that money. Yeah, that's too bad. And, uh, you know, and they're right now they're reluctant to go after hi...
Yeah. Yeah. and we're out, you know, uh, you know, fifteen thousand dollars and, you know, the guy gets out in two months That's awful and he goes out and commits it again. Fact, he's back in jail now. So, what, what, uh, Gives you sympathy for the vigilantes. Yeah. What, what deterrent does he really have? Yeah. Yeah,...
then other people will wait up, you know, and wait for somebody to do something else, try to take it in their own hands. Right. Course it doesn't always work out in their favor. Right. But, uh, nevertheless, I think people are just getting fed up and saying, you know, you can't arrest all of us, Uh-huh. you can, you kn...
Uh-huh. but then just another different set of people come in, and most of the people are transients from out, outside of the state. Huh. Uh, I would say probably eighty percent of them that are caught, they're from places like up in Oklahoma, and Louisiana, Arkansas, you know, across the, the border. Wow, So, you know...
And I think one of the big things that you can do is, to increase deterrence is, uh, if someone is found guilty of a, uh, felony level offense, they lose their citizenship. And they lose their constitutional rights. You know, Uh-huh. and just a lot of things that we're trying to worry about, you know, protecting these ...
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the one that looks like a fudgesicle. Oh yeah Yeah. Oh heavens. Well, I painted the outside of my house and one bathroom. Yeah. But I get, I have that problem with the the ceiling, you know, the, uh, the blown, blown, ceiling. You know where you get around the edge. Oh yeah. Well, that is hard. ...
Oh, I see. We use, uh, uh, a two inch brush with, uh, on a slant Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and that mostly does it even though you still make mistakes. But. Huh. Well are you going to paint the outside of your house too? Well, yeah. I think I am going to do it this spring actually. Oh really? Yeah, there are six houses. See the ...
Huh. Or, two tone, or two tone. You know. Yeah. There are some columns that could be painted a different color too. Uh-huh. What color did you paint your house? White. On the out, But, I have a problem. I can't get up high and we can't paint the chimney Well, you have got to get one of those ladders. We have one of tho...
We did it in the fall and it, it's just too high. It is really scary, but and the only thing I would consider doing, a professional, maybe doing that, Yeah. but it other than doing our own work I prefer it to a professional. Well, our house in New Mexico, it was stucco, but we had all this trim to paint, and lots of it...
Oh, oh, oh, oh, I know what you are talking about. Uh Yeah. Scaffold. scaffold. That's it He came and did it that way and I think he charged me a hundred dollars to finish up. Huh. And literally I wouldn't have done it with the scaffolds because all the places that I had left for him were above huge humongous cactus It...
Uh-huh. It wasn't too bad. I mean you think, How much did it cost you for the paint for the outside? Shoot, maybe a hundred and fifty. Yeah. Since, it is a one story, but we did, uh, like two heavy coats over it. But then that way you know you are assured you did a good job than you are, you know, if you hire someone ...
And he had, he had, the, uh, he had already carried a ladder outside and told her that Uh-huh. and she wrung all that stuff up and made a mistake on the price of the paint Uh-huh. so she had to start all over again Uh-huh. and when he got outside, he noticed his receipt was like thirteen ninety-nine or something. Oh, m...
Uh. Rollers are so messy. We never any more. Oh, I know. But it's that, it's the textured wall. Well, a little paintbrush, So what do you think? Uh, the causes of crime? Um, I think it was imbalance of power in the United States. It's causing the lower class to rebel. That's why there's such high crime, and, uh, there'...
plus there's nobody for them to look up to. Yeah. But I also blame some of it on parents Okay. because parents aren't parents. Yeah. Because I remember even when I was growing up, I'm thirty-five Okay. I remember when I was growing up, and I had friends, they used to do stuff like, you know, go over to a store and stea...
Yeah. So. Yeah, I think I can agree with that too. But now, as far as what they can do about it, I don't know. You can't make parents be parents That's true. You got to kind of make people want to do the right thing. You know. I don't know how you do that. I guess if you gave the, gave them jobs, that's another problem...
I don't care what you do to them. Yeah. You know, so I think it depends on how much trouble that kid has been in, you know. Yeah. Because a, a, a child can get into anything Yeah. I don't care how good you, they are. Yeah. at least one time, but now if this is a repeated thing, here with this child in juvenile, and or,...
it was a little, it was a little gang of them stealing cars, you know, No, I didn't see it. I understand. And then when they caught him, you know, his mother sitting there, now they going to take me away from you. That meaned she was warned. Yeah. But see, by that, I think sometimes it's a little late. Yeah. You know, ...
Well, they should start with, the, if they would get rid of. Seems to me, I know there's a lot about court that people don't understand. There's more people in jail right now for child support, okay then there are for people doing drugs. Uh-huh. Um. You ought to take all them little misdemeanor people Yeah. let them go...
Um. You know, the murderers, the drug dealers, the user, put them all in jail you know, Yeah. and let all the normal people go Yeah. you know, because, okay, if you write a bad check, you go to jail, right. Yeah. Let them people go. Well. Not let them go and get out of it. Yeah, they, you still have to punish them. Let...
and they're, they're still, they can provide for society, whereas some of them are so far gone that they can't do anything good for society. Uh-huh. So. I don't know, some people, boy, they got, I think the United States has got too many problems to be worrying about everybody else. Yeah, that's true. Now how they goin...
and they don't have any incentive to work if we're just going to take fifty percent of it. Yeah. Might as well steal, then they don't have to pay taxes on it That's it. Yeah. So, you know, they, I, I, I know that's bad, but, you know, just like Texas now. Uh-huh. They could have had a lottery. They don't want a lottery...
Yeah. Who's going to pay for mine? I don't know But it's, it's I'm not counting on it. No, you don't count on Social Security. Yeah. But, it's, it's, that's what I'm saying, they need to do something else. Um. But. Crime is going to go up as long as the economy stays down. Yeah. And it's going to get worse. Yeah. That'...
Oh No wonder you don't know that. Well, where are you from? I'm in Dallas. Okay. But last night, they killed, uh, uh, four people in a chain food. Oh, man. And killed them, well, it was two stores side by side. Uh-huh. One was a store and one was like a, a fast food place, chicken or something, I don't know. Yeah. Anyw...
if they was going to lock them, just lock them in the freezer, take the money, you know. Yeah. They didn't have to kill them or rape them, or anything. Um. Um. That's awful. Yeah, we still get some in Raleigh. I mean, not not too often real bad ones, Uh-huh. but. It's just getting really ridiculous down here. I wish I ...
Yeah. Where is, and, and, and see that's another thing. Neighborhoods aren't neighborhoods any more. Yeah. There's nobody is next door to you, you don't know your neighbors, and stuff like that. Yeah. It's just, huh-uh, you know, because I moved out some apartments before because they were loaded with drug dealers. Um....
and this is like across the street. This was a nice part of town Um. and there across the street one of the apartments blew up because they were having that, making that, um, crack stuff Um. and then, the other time I saw the cops break down somebody's apartment around the corner. I say, See, this is it. Time to go. Th...
I don't think, don't rent to them Yeah. Or rent to them and evict them because they drug dealers. Put it on the lease. Yeah. If you deal drugs, you can't live here. Yeah. Most of them are too scared to do anything about it. Uh-huh. That's it. Yeah. All right. Well listen, I got to go. All righty. Nice talking to you. A...
I've, uh, as far as I'm concerned, I find that the young women have lost so much because they have become more aggressive and more dominating, and I think that comes about from their being a definite factor in the job market now. Uh-huh. Oh, well, I tend, I tend to agree. Uh, in some ways I think it's, uh, I think if a...
so, um, have you, have you worked outside, also and, um, feel that, it, that, well, how do you feel, as far as, uh, what would be a happy medium or, or what would you like to see? I would like, uh, yes, I have worked outside of the home and, I was in one of those safe occupations. Yes. I was a school teacher, Uh-huh. a...
which if anyone has ever been involved in that, some days it's fun and some days you wonder why you're even bothering, Right because your fighting for your life. But, yeah. But, I am a fighter and I've always been a disciplinarian. Uh, I'm, I'm not real sure that the young girls of today are being forced into the job m...
Yeah. And they have to be in charge. And, and I I think they lose a lot by what I call neutering their husbands. Uh-huh. Children Well, what do you think, ater running though, um, um, I don't know. I, the, the one problem I guess I have, and maybe what so many women, younger women now are choosing to go outside is, I f...
you know, at least you get out of here at three and you can go home and put your feet up and watch soap operas, Oh, sure <laughter>. and I used to be infuriated, Uh-huh. because they really had no idea what was involved once I got home. Now taking care of them, running them everywhere, helping with homework, the bath, ...
and the only value I see coming out of, this is that children now in, in a two parent home, they now actually have two parents, <Children> Uh-huh. Yeah. because I see my sons-in-law, I have a daughter who's a nurse and I have a daughter, who's a beautician. Right. And I see, my sons-in-law cooking and, dropping childre...
Right. So, now the young fathers are having a chance to parent, and I think, that's an advantage. And they enjoy it. Yeah. And they do enjoy it. I, I see, Uh-huh. you're right. I see many more men in the supermarket, in the parks with their children, Uh-huh, uh-huh. and I think that is healthy because And I think it's ...
and they have to, that kind of job, uh, to go out there and shovel that tar and, and drive those big trucks. And we just recently finished a long drive through the west, a little over five thousand miles, Uh-huh. and at one point we sat down, uh, I didn't realize it, but I sat at a counter to have a cup of coffee that ...
in that, he's a very considerate person, but he also thinks a woman should be taken care of and, and in the home, and she should vote, but after she talks to her husband about how she ought to vote. Oh, boy <laughter>. Now it probably doesn't work that way in our household because I have strong opinions about things, t...
both. Oh, oh, yeah. And, and you have to, I guess you have to question too, why a lot of the men, especially, I think middle age and older men, why they feel that way and, and I think it gets scary for them to see change, also. They've been used to being, really to be honest, in, in society, and in a way, number one, a...
I'm kind of more, alking to someone in background, thank you, esumes talking to speaker A I'm kind of more middle of the road. I think that when children are small, I think it's okay for women to work especially, there should be some, a lot more part time, but I think it's, um, I don't believe in this career, you know,...
I didn't want, I don't want a job where I'm traveling around and I'm away and, uh, so I think you can have both. It's more hectic, but I think you have to put into perspective what your kids need, first then I think a lot of, my problem with the young mothers ... Talk about the activities that we don't do Yeah. I, I do...
I love that. Do they have children? Uh, the one, the most valueless girl doesn't, but she's married, and I, I'm not quite sure why. I, I think he said that he'd give her a big ring and she got married to him. Oh, that's wonderful But, it, it's kind of weighed on me and then the other day my husband and I met a couple w...
You know, I have, uh, some friends that, uh, first of all, uh, the girls joined, they have two girls, one joined the Girl Scouts and the other was in the Brownies and then the mother got involved as a leader and then all of a sudden the father was getting involved with doing nature hikes for them and working with the G...
she said that her husband said to her daughter, you need a hobby, so, she chose the cats. Oh. And you can tell, it's a family hobby. they're all a part of it. And it was really neat because they all were interested in each other and, and the cats and they raise champion cats. So, they've done really well. Ugh, those ar...
and it just kind of built. One at a time, just I couldn't, you know. One time two of them came at once and I can't turn a hungry cat down. Oh, I know. So, you know, and the last one that I was here, uh, the kids brought him over and said he was injured and it was winter time and I said, I just can not have another cat,...
No, I know what you mean, our cat hates other cats, and, we've tried to get her to like other cats and she just, uh, she wants to be around human beings and she does not want to be around other cats. So our next, uh, we're going to try it with a kitten and see if her maternal instincts come out. Ha, ha, lots of luck. I...
Nothing real bad, you know, a slap here and there, but, uh, they put up with each other and they will eventually. her nose will be out of joint for a while and she'll hiss and growl and slap every now and then, but they'll, she'll finally accept it. You know, they really don't have any choice They In my household, we h...
Yeah, yeah. Every now and then, so. That's true, they've got to keep them in line. Yeah but she'll accept another cat eventually. As long as you make her feel, uh, like she's still loved and everything, so. Yeah, well those cats were great. They were fourteen pounds and, And oh, they're just gorgeous, but, yeah, it, th...
I think of the kittens at the pound. Yeah. Three hundred and fifty dollars hispers. Yeah, yeah, and they are lovely but, till whispering Ugh, house payment Right. That is a lot of money. Yeah, and then she's saying, you know, you can't let them outside and you can't do all this stuff and I'm like, ugh, you know. I don'...
people throw rocks at them, and people run over them and, I, I just, you know, I just don't. I know and, and now they've lost the desire. Most of them don't even try to you know, to go out. I just have two that drive me crazy, that I let out in the back, you know, but I won't let them get, if they start going in the fr...
We know we try, try real hard to keep them healthy. Uh, we just bought, uh, acre, a house with an acre to try to, so she'll have some room to walk around, and not off of a busy street. Oh, how neat. We're, we're choosing our house for our cat. Isn't that bad People do it for their children I mean, why not. Oh, them too...
Away from a road, you know, and you keep an eye on her, it's probably okay. I'm just real, I don't know, I guess, I'm in a neighborhood and it's, it's just real tough on animals here, you know. Yeah, it gets hard, especially with the cars. I, every time I see one run over I just, you know, it makes me sick, so, you kno...
Oh, no. In, in her little bridesmaid dress Yeah, you know, if I could have, I would have. Well I'm sure it's been done. I'm sure it has been done. Well they have weddings for dogs now and cats and, Oh. you know, they have all that parties for them where they dress up. I've seen it in magazines and stuff where you dress...
and Jerry just kept saying you are the meanest person I took a picture of her and that was all it, all it lasted for. do any of your friends have, have, uh, older children that they do anything with. Do, do you have friends with older children, or do they just all have young kids. Um, yeah, all the ones I know, my brot...
Oh, see there, she needed that, didn't she. oh yeah. You know, it must be hard when you have a lot of children, I, you know, to I was an only child, my mother was an only child so, I, you know, I wasn't raised with brothers or sisters and I always got all the attention, so I wouldn't know. I think I would be extremely ...
so she really doesn't even know what it is to be the only one. Right. Yeah, that's tough, you know ... So, what do you, what's your opinion on the, our policy down there? I don't think we have one. I didn't know we had one either Yeah. I was going to say it's kind of hard to have, have an opinion. We seem to, uh, whoev...
And then, of course, there was, there was the, uh, in Columbia, with the drug lords. Right. But we just talked a lot. We didn't actually do anything. Right. Well, that's, that's what I was about to say. We didn't do anything. I'm actually surprised at anything in Central America, along with Panama. I'm just kind of sur...
He takes more risks. Yeah. Reagan is kind of mushmouth. Yeah. He was. But, but I guess most of the policy that we're using now is, uh, a combination of Reagan and Carter, much as, you know, policy makers. Yeah. It seems that the, the policies of pretty much anywhere, not just in Central America, that U S has now is, is...
But, no, but see the thing when Panama was, uh, the, that, uh, Noriega was, uh, was, was, uh, was wanted either the F B I, by the F B I, and therefore, they had a reason But, to go in and take out the whole drug kingdom would be something totally different because, It could be an interesting, interesting problem. Right...
And either he knows somebody or he has a real good, a real good imagination because its, it hits pretty close to home. Yeah. But I don't think we're going to have much of a choice in either Central or South America. I don't think, uh, I don't think, the, the, uh, problem about drugs is going to be safe any time soon. I...
Yeah. That's true. There's too many liberals in control. They can't agree on anything. And they have blinders on as far as the policy goes. As long as somebody's getting killed, as long as nobody knows about it it's okay. But, but the minute it hit, hits the paper then, of course, the Kennedys and the and the and the, ...
Considering the Kennedys made all their money off bootleg whiskey anyway. Huh. Every time you drink Scotch, you're paying Kennedys. I don't drink Scotch. Good. Don't ever drink Scotch, it's terrible. I quit drinking Scotch when I found out about that, but, anyway. But, uh, as far as, as far as, you know, Central and So...
I mean, I think it's going to have to get worse before it gets better, you know, the same old cliche. Well, I think basically, they can't figure out what they want down there. Right. If you give everybody what they wanted there is a complete democracy, those people wouldn't know how to react because they have no educ...
Good, talking to you. Hey, what was that book, what was that book that you were saying to read, again? Tom, Clancy. It's called A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. Uh-huh. He he's the one who wrote, uh, RED OCTOBER, A HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER. Okay. All right. And I think if you read that, I think you'...
Uh-huh. and, uh, I always felt that I graduated high school and I still didn't even I, I couldn't put together a map of the United State. Um. You know what I mean. Uh-huh. An yet I felt that I got a good education and I, I did well in school but you tell me to name, you know, five continents an I, couldn't do it. Uh-hu...
we're trying to improve the computer science curriculum, Uh-huh. So that's kind of in a higher level Right. So it's interesting that you chose that topic Yeah, um, did you do through a public school system or private? Yeah, well, I went through private an until ninth grade. Uh-huh, did you notice a big difference? Oh, ...
Yeah, I work in a temporary agency an they're people that come in, you know, every day to fill out an application, Uh-huh. and they'll have to bring somebody with them, and they will show that they completed, um, four year of high school, yet when it comes to even answering the questions on a simple application, they c...
I forget I think it's, um, some place in New York because they're having budget problems, they're closing the libraries. Uh-huh. I mean they're not getting rid of any of the sports, or anything like that, Uh. they're not cutting in any other corner they're closing the libraries. That to me shows a little, uh, switch in...
um, is, is N C University is that, uh, State, N C State. What did you say? N C State. N C State, that's a State University then. Yeah. I see. And you're from there also? Well, yeah, I was, uh, I was born in and then I lived in most of my life. Uh-huh. I see. And now I'm back here going to school. Well, pretty soon it's...
Yeah. Well, still though I mean, you know, thousands of dollars, Yeah, state's not that bad Oh, well, that's good. Yeah. That's good. I went to a private university and, um, I don't know I look back now and I, I think that I probably would have done it differently if I, um, you know, could do it over again. Yeah. But, ...
Where did you go? what? Where did you go? I went to University. Uh-huh. It's in Massachusetts. And, um, I really felt like I've been working now for about four years, Uh-huh. and I, I feel like what I've learned working is a hundred times more valuable then what learned in school. Oh. And I know that I'm drawing a lot ...

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