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Is that what it was? I do some, I'm a graduate student in Psych. Oh, okay. And we sort of, you know, figure out, um, I know a little bit about that kind of stuff. Huh-uh. What they're trying to do there is, they want to sort of get a base line measure for you, you know. How is it that when you see these things and, you...
Yeah. I don't know Yeah, well, I guess so, I mean, I guess, I don't know how, what actually happens if, uh, if you have killed your mother Yeah Big jump there. But, yeah, Yeah. I think it's their way of saying how well you do, in a shock situation without worrying about, stuff like that. Huh-uh. I never thought abou...
and it spoils their chances for just making it a little better. You know, when they might be actually trying to, improve their lives. Yeah. Yeah. That's, uh, you know, it, it could blow things right away for them, you know. Huh-uh. Huh-uh. Unless they say, well, look, unless they walk in, they could walk in and say, l...
But I don't really know. I don't know what the laws are pertaining to this. Yeah. Yeah. My wife probably does. I'm not sure what they are either. I don't, I don't . Yeah. But, it's an interesting topic that I never actually thought about . Yeah. The other day we had talked about, uh, capital punishment. Oh, I . And I r...
I sort of like that stuff, it makes you think. Huh-uh. Really, really. So I think that's real good. Okay. It was very nice talking to you. Nice talking to you to. Okay. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Well, I think we pay too much in taxes. Yeah. How about you? Well, I think they waste what we pay. Excuse me? I think they...
that's what I think too. I don't know how you feel, um, we moved here from another state. We lived here before, went out and came back, and that particular state had an occupational income tax, but no sales tax. Uh-huh. And what you find out is, there's, one evil is the same as the other. Here you don't, there's no occ...
I went, we bought a new washer and the man said, and that's eight percent. I said, eight percent. What Uh-huh. So it's really kind of sad, yeah. And then I don't know how, you know, in terms of when you all do your federal, but it just seems like, if you're strictly middle income, it seems like you get hit the worst. Y...
What? Oh, I thought you were going to say something. Huh-uh. They somehow seem to get around these, the things that we can't, you know, that make, don't make that kind of money. Right. I don't know. I mean, if they're in business, and, and they're making money, I could see if they're losing money, but they're making mo...
Right. Uh-huh. In a way, it's almost like he had so much debt that, uh, filing bankruptcy was a way to get out of all of it you know. Right. So. Do you file federal or joint income tax, And do you feel like you get hit by, you know, too much? I just file federal income tax every year. Yeah, I just got divorced, so I'm ...
doesn't that sound stupid. Uh-huh. But, I mean, there's actually less tax implication if I don't work full time compared to what my husband does, you know. *are the final "you knows" tags? Right. So it's kind of hard. Whoever works less, they can get a tax credit for that. Excuse me. If both of the, both of the spouses...
Well that's not too bad. Then you get a, you get a child care exemption, but it's not enough, you know. I mean, you pay from fifty to a hundred dollars a week in child care Uh-huh. and, and they only give you like, I think it's about five or ten percent of that. Oh, my goodness. You know, it doesn't even, it's not even...
Oh, you are? East or west, I'm from Pittsburgh. *listen Oh, are you really? Yeah. What part of Pittsburgh? Um, the South Hills area, Beaver County, well originally Beaver County . Uh-huh. And, uh, where are you from? Uh, Clarion County. Oh, okay, I know where that is. I we live out in the country. Yeah, that's pretty o...
I'm, I'm talking to you from Dallas right now. Oh, oh, you are? Uh-huh Do you work, do you work for Texas Instruments then? No, my husband does. Oh, uh-huh. And who, how about you? No, I'm just, Uh, federal company, you know, place that, that needed this. *listen--not sure who's saying what so, yeah. Well that's okay. ...
Uh-huh. It's a farm community, and we. Yeah, is it a, is it a working farm or is it? Ours is not a working farm More, more, I can understand that, that's probably what I would, uh, Yeah, I have a garden but you know, we have a garden. Yeah But we don't farm. I can hear the accent now I hear the I hear the Western Penns...
Uh-huh. We, we originally lived in Dallas and we met and got married Uh-huh. and then, um, actually married in Pittsburgh, and that's, that's not what they want to hear on this call, uh Uh-huh. at any rate we came back here with, my husband was transferred around, uh, up to Minnesota and now back to Texas with T I Uh-h...
my brother has a home there he's trying to sell. He, he's living now up, uh, in, in Maryland but, uh, he, lived in Grapevine for a long time. It's, yeah, That's why we not sure, we, we're not sure we want to, uh, buy down here, because we actually, we lived up north long enough to appreciate the, um, *listen--one utt? ...
Uh, right, right. Right, right. and, and I just have no tolerance for that. Yeah, yeah, it's not good No. And the people think the income is really great in some of those areas but when they sit down and look at what it costs to live and, uh, of course, most of the homes are, you know, fairly nice, they're, uh, done up...
and now she can't sell it. And our neighbors, Well, prices have come down on the homes, the duplexes. Yeah, I mean, we'll, our neighbors, the attached on the other side, they're very nice, thank God, Uh-huh. they paid fifty-eight for it. Oh, my heaven. That's how bad it, I know. Well, I know up in Connecticut the same ...
but, uh, How far, where is Clarion County in relation to, actually, because we're considering moving to Pennsylvania Well, we're about a hundred miles from Pittsburgh north. That's not too bad. That's north. And yeah, and it's, it's really not, you know, not that far. Are you going up toward, uh, uh, I'm trying to thin...
or that you've, Well, we've been here since sixty-six. Oh, then you have, yeah. Do you have a lot of land or, Uh, we have fifty acres. Oh, my, well, then. Oh, pardon me, we have forty, we gave ten to one of our children There you go. Did you have a hard time getting used to, do you feel like you live in an isolated are...
I think that that's, um, I can remember in Pittsburgh when, this has to do with homes, uh, indirectly but I can remember when Upper Saint Clair was out in the, you know, the rural end of Washington, Uh-huh, uh-huh. and now it's it's a terrible connection. Yeah, it's ours up here. We have, our rural connections are real...
How big is it? How many square feet do you have? Uh, oh, golly, I really. Well how many rooms do you think, yeah? We have, uh, uh, four rooms downstairs, and a pantry Uh-huh. and upstairs we have a bath, a bath, oh we, have a half bath downstairs, too. Uh-huh. We have a bath upstairs, and one, two, three, four bedrooms...
Well, it really isn't too big yet. We, we a lot of people say that but, um, it's, Uh-huh. we just like it real well Yeah, It's enough space for two people Yeah. we had five children, so and they've all moved you know, on. Oh, okay. They're all out on their own now. Yeah, right. That's okay. Well, we've got, um, this to...
um, it's really nice. Well, it sounds like a good buy. Yeah, it is, I mean, I would never buy it but leasing it is fine. Uh-huh. Um, but, it's just again, the, the privacy, you know. Um, we had a house in Minneapolis that was on three acres, and my husband was raised, um, on a working farm near Oh, that makes a big dif...
but yet you can have your friends, uh, you can have them in, you can go out. Uh-huh. You have more of a choice, you're not pressed upon as bad. That's kind of what, like his parents have, uh, land that they retired to, um, about a hundred miles out of Atlanta and, in Georgia, Uh-huh. and it is too far south for me, Uh,...
More luxury. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Right, right, it's modern, it's beautiful, it's country Right, yeah. it's you know, um, but, uh, I don't, what else about housing except it's, uh, well, Pittsburgh's housing economy, I think it's holding it's own. Uh, they're, yeah, I suppose they are now. We, both of our children who live ...
Yeah, that's nice. And, uh, the one, the one boy, the house they bought is completely livable. They didn't have to do much to it. Great. The other one is, uh, uh, has, you know, needs more work done. It's twenty years old, I think. Uh-huh. And, but they have two children, too, and they, they bought what they could affo...
and, I mean, my brother lives, They are beautiful homes. is it called Baldwin or Bebble? Uh-huh, uh-huh. I mean, he lives all in that same area going from Mount Lebanon, um, it's real pretty up there. It's just, It is, it's real nice. And the neighborhoods are stable you know. Uh-huh. It's, uh, when you come to this pa...
And then after they had to start paying to move us, that suddenly wasn't necessary any more Uh-huh. That's what it is here, yeah, that's why we're at a point now we've, uh, we're adopting and we have been married ten plus years and what happens is, uh, you just realize that once you get to a certain age the next house ...
You know, they buy a place and they just hate the area. I know, and it, and the economy here in Dallas, I mean, it, it's steady, but it's still not going up. Uh-huh. And I, um, I just refuse to buy it, um, if I know I'm not going to be there for at least five years, uh, you, you know. Uh-huh. Yeah, well, my brother, th...
People from J C Penney's from New York, came here about a couple of years ago. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And they thought they were getting a great deal, um, because they could get a five hundred thousand dollar home with, they call it, zero lot lines, no property, And it would make you ill to see this. Oh, uh-huh. Yeah. I mean ...
And I do get tired of that but, uh, I don't know, I don't think I'd want to change it. No, and your kids have, to tell you the truth, um, I think that if you can keep that, that way, you know, kind of like a homestead, Hello. Hi, uh, basically, I wear pants. I'm a real pants person and, uh, like when I'm at home since,...
But when I go out for meetings uh, then I will wear either, uh, skirts or, uh, a dress and I have a couple of pantsuits because those are real in at this time, but, that's basically what I do. Well, I think our tastes are fairly similar, although I am I government worker, I do tend to, I'm, uh, a scientist. Oh. So that...
actually I guess this summer I, I wore some fairly nice jeans uh, more than I have in previous seasons. Uh-huh. But, uh, no, I tend to, to use the same things because actually our offices are very cold in summer. I don't know whether they think by, you know, freezing them up overnight, then they can save electricity du...
I mean, I suppose if you were a, a, more a receptionist and meeting the public and it was the image of your company at stake perhaps you would have to dress up. Then Uh, well, I don't have the resources to just go out and buy, buy, buy anyway and so my don't change dramatically over the years. If I need something new, ...
Uh, but it doesn't really change my clothing style. Exactly. I mean, you can look businesslike in, in a the same pant suit you would, you know wear for other things. Yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm really glad about that pant suits are popular because I'm allergic to many of the synthetics. Oh. And so I used to have a problem whe...
Bye-bye. What do you think? Well, uh, this is, this is about drug testing right? Right. Well, uh, I'm, I'm certainly under the, uh, uh, the influence of the idea that, that the government needs to have less control on what, uh, what the citizens do, although I do see this as a, uh, something that definitely needs to be...
Yeah. Sure. Uh-huh. Yeah, I, I agree with you. I, you know, I would even think that, uh, uh, I could, in theory take that a a, you know, a step further and say anybody in any job, you know, if the corporation felt like, uh, and this is why, I mean, uh, drugs are the biggest problem, I think to face America today. I mea...
That, uh, you can't, you can't have it any other way. Uh-huh. Uh, you know, whether whether in, in the case that you brought up, you know, whether, uh, you know, if it's a policeman and he's working with, uh, the public and he has a, and has a gun in his holster or, or even, you know, if it's a guy at McDonald's cookin...
Uh, not, they hired me in nineteen eighty-four Oh. Okay. But now they, they, uh, they issued a statement about that, about three months ago. Uh-huh. Oh, so are they going to, uh, begin spontaneous, uh, drug testing? Uh, not that I know of. It was more about, uh, all the people's problems. Like they've been laying off a...
What do you think about, uh, you know, something that kind of concerns me is, uh, you know, you and I are tested for, for whatever work we happen to do. Do you think there should be drug testing for political officials? Yes, I do. Yeah, I do, too. Because, because a lot of them are, you know, they're hypocritical. They...
yeah. So, I would agree with you. I, I can't see, I can't see how we can expect the, you know, uh, uh, people working in the, in, in America to, uh, to put any trust into our political officials if they don't, you know, uh, just doesn't make sense to have them to, to worry about legislation unless they're doing that th...
Or we use credit cards also, if we want to get an extended warranty on an item that we're purchasing. So. So, yes, Oh, well, that's an idea, that's a thought, uh-huh. and basically we use it mainly when we're traveling or out of state or or somewhere where, you know, they don't take local, they don't take out of state ...
He, he likes that, Uh-huh. and they just pay the minimum required balance. And that's when you get into expenses. Yes, and you get in over your head. Right. It'll, uh, some people I know also try to use it as float where they buy something now Uh-huh. and say, well, I'm going to buy this when it's good and on sale and ...
but they would take a credit card. Right. How how are the laws in Pennsylvania, uh, as, as regard, well not the laws, but the rates, credit card rates in Pennsylvania? For example down here, when you go up to a gas station you get an extra charge for credit cards than you would by paying for cash. Uh-huh. Right. Are th...
uh-huh. to me they are, anyway, Yes, because you make the deduction at the time of the purchase and, and so that the end of the month or when you get your credit card bill are you saying that that way you're not left stranded and high and dry Right. Right, yeah. Yes. Yeah, right. Very good. You're, you're one of the go...
Uh-huh. that you can can find yourselves in those situations and use a credit card to to help yourself. Uh-huh. Right. Right. So I think that there's a great advantage to a credit card in those situations. Uh-huh. Yeah, because sometimes, uh, there's times when you may, maybe couldn't take advantage of something Uh-huh...
and we have quite a few, but we really get, when you get down to the nitty gritty, there's probably three that we use most of the time. Uh-huh. Right. We're, we're actually in the same boat. Uh-huh. We like to use three, uh, basic credit cards. Uh-huh. That way we're not confused and we don't have an awful lot of expen...
Yeah. Almost too much so. But I I really don't like it the charges that, you know, we try to limit, look at that also, what they charge per year to use our money, you know Right, so the annual fee. Right, right, they're charging us to spend our money, and, I, I'm not real crazy about that, so we try to look at that als...
Yes. Such as how much time, well, I'll ask, how much time do you spend with your children, and how many do you have? We have two children, they're both grown and married and with, we have, uh, our daughter has three sons, so we see them at least once a week, and we see our son and his wife uh, about every other week an...
And my oldest daughter lives in Amsterdam, Holland. Oh. She Her husband builds pianos, so it's kind of hard for us to visit with them, as much as I'd like to. Because we've, we, one thing we do have together is we're both musicians. Oh, yes. I play in several symphony orchestras and, she is a, a, a concert, uh, harp...
and so they, I don't hardly get to see any of them. Oh, you don't get to see any of yours very often. She works in these, um, Trump type casinos, she and her husband both do. They work, uh, they're really both, um play, people who play on stage Yes, uh-huh. Uh-huh. and, uh, they're running lights right now and audio...
But, now, like last weekend, um, there's the Soviet space exhibit is here in Dallas, and it ends, uh, in January, Oh. so she and, and the three boys and my husband and I went over into Fort Worth to see the space exhibit and this Sunday, The Soviet space exhibit? Uh-huh. My goodness. Yeah Oh, it's been here for quite,...
and we have cookouts on Sunday uh, Well, that sounds like you have really, wonderful activities that keep you together. And, uh we, we do a lot with with our kids, and we we always have. Yeah. Uh-huh. *slash error, should be 'b' We've taken a lot of trips with our kids when they were younger. Uh, we're very family or...
Beautiful. and they go out to the other, you know, the in-laws in between some of this, but they're all, with us, Uh-huh. and, uh, then have Christmas dinner with us and then go to other in-laws and things, so we see a lot of them. But we enjoy Christmas Eve night, because they all start arriving by about eleven o'clo...
Oh, I, I think the trends are going back to spending more time with families. Uh-huh. I think parents are definitely, uh, spending more and more time. I don't think they're leaving them with baby-sitters, you know. I think, I think family quality time is becoming much more important than it was there for about, uh, I ...
Do you have any children? Uh, yes, I have a daughter. Uh-huh. I don't any children so I'm going to have difficulty with this topic. Oh, okay. But, uh, what kinds of things do you and your family do? Um, well, we go out and fly kites and we go fishing. And we go to movies and we go out to the farm. And, and, uh, she lik...
and I read her stories. Uh-huh. That's great. Yeah. I think a lot of families now, they probably don't spend enough time together. Yeah. You know, whether their parents are together or divorced they don't spend enough time together and, and I think that contributes to a lot of why society is going downhill right now is...
Uh-huh. You know, that's good sometimes because you need to, you know, get away. But, um, I don't think you, you should spend too much time outside at the detriment of, of losing your the family unit. Yeah, that's right. Because then you never get to know them either. Uh-huh. They're all grown up and their, Yeah. Yeah....
So, um, do you think that you, do you think that your family is pretty rare in that you do a lot of things or just the relationship between you and your daughter? Yeah, I really do because, because I don't see many others and when, whenever we go to the park or something sometimes on the weekdays, we'll see other famil...
and it's, it's too static, you know, it's something that you can do but there's no thinking involved, no motion, you know, and I think, think that's another reason why people are, uh, so health conscious now is because America's becoming really a couch potato society. Uh-huh. You know, people aren't doing anything just...
When, How, how old is she? she's five. Um. Well, she has, We, we just been hitting the ball on the ground. Yeah, yeah. She can't hit it in the air yet, and then we kick the ball. We play like soccer. You've still have a lot of time before she gets up in years Uh-huh. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Um. Okay. Well it wa...
Bye-bye. Bye-bye. So you like to fish, huh? Yeah, I like to, I don't have a boat, but I like to fish and there's a lot of lakes around here. Uh, are there many lakes up there? Yeah, actually there are quite a bit of lakes around me. We uh, we have the, those little, the, the, the Great Lakes, you know, uh, Lake Ontario...
we have a, actually quite a lot of variety. There's, uh, there's, we have large mouth, small mouth, uh, sort of musky, pike, stuff like that. Uh-huh. You know, all sorts of fun stuff like that. Uh, we have a pretty large bass masters tournament actually takes place right on Lake Ontario every year. Oh, yeah, that's rig...
Um. Every once in a while there'll be striped bass. We have, uh, some friends who live on the lake Uh-huh. and, it, the lake it just seems, is, is completely filled with bass to the point where, you know, normally you go, go fishing for bass, you get a lot of sunfish, or, or cat or whatever, and some other strange stuf...
they, they just drop it in. They can't pull it in fast enough. What do you, what do you catch perch on? Uh, I, they actually, they, according to them, you can catch, when the perch are running, you can catch them on just about anything. Huh. They tend to use, I guess worms or some kind of lures sometimes, but, you know...
uh, the other day I was fishing with bread, uh, there's a college across the street Yeah. and they, it's, it's full of carp and, uh, I caught a carp on a, about, what size is that, uh, I think it was a number two treble hook, Um. and it's huge, its, its mouth was full of hooks. Wow. So he was in a bad way. But, uh, it'...
Boy they they really don't want to come out of the water they, they zip through the water, you know, you're, how your line goes, you know Uh-huh. and I thought, you know, that, uh, I wasn't going to be able to get it in, because, uh, the one I hooked just about ten minutes before, when I tried to raise it out of the wa...
Uh, there's some, uh, my dad has a farm and there's, he has two ponds up there and my uncle has a, a pond upstream and there's a lot of crappie in there now. But, uh, I think he's the only one that's, that's caught enough crappie or, a big enough crappie to eat. But the catfish, there's, you know, there's hundreds of t...
yeah. Yeah, I know it. Have you ever tried, uh, deep sea fishing? Uh, not yet. My brother went off the coast of Maine, uh, when the, I don't know, what they, mackerel Yeah. that school up there? *listen--is there overlap? It's he, he said that it was just like that. They were throwing like, uh, uh, hell benders or, uh,...
We just dropped it down there and, the captain had, you know, some kind of sonar in the boat Uh-huh. so he'd maneuver us into a school of fish and you just drop it in and and it just, you, you get one or two at a shot, you know and, It's a good deal, too. Yeah. It was, it was a, like twenty dollars for six hours of fis...
If you want to go on a boat alone, it's like two hundred dollars a day. Yeah. But this is great, because it was, I think it was nineteen dollars for five hours and twenty dollars for six hours or something. Uh-huh. You know, so you'd get to go out there for, for, for six hours and get a nice suntan and bring along some...
I think that, um, our health insurance is terribly expensive. Uh-huh. I'd rather that we got a bit more coverage for a lot less money. But, um, you know, that's, that's my major complaints, I guess. What about you? Yeah, and a lot of times they turn down your claims so that leaves you paying for all of it. Uh-huh. Or, ...
I have just the regular insurance so that any doctor is covered but what I found recently is what they've been doing is they, they poll somehow the area, and then they have what they consider a justifiable price for the area where your doctor is located based on zip code. Uh-huh. And so recently, when, when we had a cl...
yeah, but everybody gets vacation. I mean, like, uh, T I and some other places, you know, they have recreational facilities, and they have a driving range and weight room and, you know, I think they even have a swimming pool Huh. and I don't know if they have any tennis courts or anything like that. Yeah, I'm not famil...
But, um, otherwise, I'm not aware of any problems with the benefits around here So maybe that covers the topic then. Yeah. Well, I don't know, the the working conditions, you know, if you could include that in benefits. Some places aren't very safe to work. Uh-huh. And, and some places don't compensate you for the haza...
Uh-huh. and a, a lot of them are going to their own insurance now. And it reduces some of the length of the benefits, and, uh, and I don't know besides that. But I, I noticed right off that was a year less than what the state was allowing. Oh I, I didn't know that somebody could avoid workmen's compensation. Well, well...
instead of trying to cut everything down *listen and then have everybody be unhappy and, and have a constant turnover of people. I mean, sure, the payroll is lower that way, but I would assume that the productivity is way down, also. Yeah, the productivity and the training costs, if they have to train the same employee...
All right. Well, she lives in Utah, so. Oh, uh-huh, uh-huh. That's the way we always were. We always lived away from our family and relatives while the kids were growing up. Yeah. So, well, I guess we're going to talk about children today. Okay, let's do So, you ready? My children are all gone already. Uh-huh. They're,...
I stay home most of the time but I know that it's very difficult to, to find good help sometimes when and especially when your, when you want your children to be taken care of. Right. Um, you know, there's a, my neighbor she tends children though and, and, um, there's a big controversy whether they should have to, um, ...
Uh, now, usually when I have someone tend, um, my oldest tends for me now if I go somewhere but, Uh-huh, how old, is your oldest? before, He's almost a teenager Oh, well, he's plenty big enough then Yeah, he's, he's very good. Um, but, um, before that I would, I would use, uh, kids from our church, Uh-huh. and they did...
but my last two children were, uh, both entering high school age. Uh-huh. And, uh, they were, of course, gone while I was working so it wasn't a problem I saw, and I stayed home the rest of the time. Yeah. I, so I didn't have that problem either. Now I have, I, my oldest daughter she has two children and they've been i...
She's done a lot of things that I never thought she would do, you know, with, with the family because she was the one that said she was never getting married and never going to have any children. Oh, is that, is that right? So, she is, she spends a lot of quality time I think when she is with, with the children. I thin...
Yeah, yeah. Well, my daughter decided to call them and check and things weren't okay Oh. Her, her one son was watching the soapies which she doesn't allow them to watch the soapies. Oh, uh-huh. And the baby was in his crib with the door shut just screaming his heart out, Oh, dear. and the baby-sitter was in the kitchen...
more than one adult they, and the age groups are separated Uh-huh. Well, nannies have been an option, uh, but I know that at day care they have more of a, a routine like maybe in, uh, preschool would have where they have lessons and, so forth, and so on. Yes, story time, uh, Uh-huh. and the, this one has been particula...
if there was a problem they, they would I think be more ready to tell you what it was. Oh, I think so, because if they were still there, you know they might not, They may not say anything. Right, right. And, uh, other than how else, how do you judge other than from what others have, uh, what you see, uh, the cleanlines...
uh-huh. And then if there was a problem and then we'd sit down, and talk about it Uh-huh. but it never happened, to be a problem, Yeah. Yeah. and, and so things worked out okay, and their kids played with my kids and it worked out well. it worked out good. I'm going to, I've decided I'm going to baby-sit my two grandda...
so he's going to deliver my products so I'll do my orders and that by phone. Well, that will be great. So, um, I'll be able to keep that up a little bit. Yeah. But I I think I'll enjoy doing , Yeah. I bet you'll have some great experiences with them. Yeah, I, I think I'll enjoy. Yeah. I, I guess I kind of miss having a...
and she takes care of them sometimes, for me, Uh-huh. and, and just is a lovely lady, Uh-huh. and I've always appreciated when she's sat with them. Yeah. My daughter, always said she would not let me baby-sit because you do hear grandparents complaining you know because they're stuck with their grandchildren so much. A...
Uh, okay , I hadn't thought about that, uh. Uh, well I just have an opinion, now I didn't think, I thought the terrorism thing was overstated, I mean, there was nothing over here. In fact even, this is not our subject, I guess, but, uh, maybe it is or isn't, I suppose. Yeah. My wife when she talked about the Middle E...
and, uh, and the last, you know, out of all the Asians we brought in, there's a tremendous criminal element that we let in from, from Asia and I think that there's got to be some sort of controls over that. That's right. I mean this Asia mafia thing is getting out of hand. Uh-huh. I don't, I don't, I didn't know what,...
I, I do have some sympathy with, uh, you know, of course we have this big Mexican problem, not a problem, but I think that we need to do something with, uh, the immigration of back and forth across Mexico, uh Uh-huh. I, I'm sympathetic, I don't know what the answer is, I guess. I'm sympathetic certainly with that, that...
I don't know to what degree we owe the people who come across before they're citizens, owe the children education and all that, uh, although, the idea of education is an answer to a lot of problems in the world. So I guess it's what they, Uh-huh. their, the Mexican kids get a good education along the way, and maybe tha...
I never thought that they were much. I do cringe when I hear some of the problems we've had. Uh-huh. Um, uh, of course you mentioned the language. I feel so bad that we, here in Texas, or certainly the southern part of the United States, uh, California, Texas, and all that, why our kids don't speak fluid Spanish, uh, b...
Yeah. Yeah, I guess it's never too late. I, I do have some Spanish books, and I've always, uh, every year I say I'm going to try to speak some newcomers language, you know. I don't know if it's costing us any money or how much money they're putting into it, uh, that's always a factor, I mean how much, my wife says, How...
Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, I, I, I think that certainly is a problem. I guess our immigration history, that's a great subject. They, uh, didn't say to talk about that, but that is, I mean, on Ellis Island, they, you know they're redoing that and going to make it a museum, a national museum. Uh-huh. That certainly was interesti...
and one of the, one of the things that really gets to me, uh, about the Mexicans is that, um, once they have children over here, their children are American citizens then. Oh, yeah, those were laws are unusual. Yeah, and then they'll ship the parents back and that leaves the children without any parents. So, And they, ...
And, uh, a lot of them had been, you know. Yeah. Some of them, some of them moved back and forth, but uh, most of them don't ever want to go back to Mexico, Yeah. especially the way it was then. Oh no. Oh, no, I, I could see, you could see why. Uh-huh. I don't know how much immigration we have from Europe and everyth...
Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. So that, you know, and that's the thing with the jobs. Yeah. And of course no one beat him out. Yeah. So, you know. He just ruined his own career, so. Oh, well yeah. Yeah Yeah, well it's still interesting after all this time that we're probably one of the, one of the few countries that people ar...
So many people will immigrate here in the twentieth, at the year two thousand, so many of the people will go back overseas. You know, maybe it will average out, I don't know. Yeah, I think so. It doesn't, has, doesn't seem so far. Because there are other I, uh, job opportunities, in Europe that there aren't here you kn...