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He's, uh, he's, too bad the Mavericks couldn't get him. That's true. With Roy Tarpley they're in big trouble. Yeah. Well then, he's gone now so, they don't have to worry about that. Yeah, for awhile anyway. Well, I thought he was gone period. I, I didn't read the story, but I, I, read that, uh, I heard he was suspended. Because of his, Well, that might have been what it was, but I, I guess the headlines said something about him, you know, that the Mavericks released him or something, I, maybe I misunderstood what they meant. Um. If they did, they'd still have to pay his contract Well, yeah They may have done it. you never know.
It was a lot of money. He was making like, Yeah but, I heard on the radio it was sixty-three thousand and change a month. That's what he was being paid, you know, he wasn't even playing. Yeah. Oh, boy, what a good job he had That's what I think. He ruined his sweet position Yeah Yeah. I'm looking forward to the, the pro play-off, uh, Yeah. It's coming up, isn't it. L A, yeah, San Antonio, who's the other one that's doing so well this year,
is that Portland? Portland. Yeah, Portland. Portland. I haven't seen them on much T V that much at all, but all I can do is hear about, boy they have the seeing eye. Uh-huh. What do they have Walter Davis and, They've got two, the two Johnson brothers or they're not brothers, but I mean there's two guys named Johnson on their team that are really good or doing good or something, I forget how that works. But, um, like I said they're doing extremely good right now. Um. Phoenix isn't doing too bad. So, It, it ought to be a real interesting play-off. Right.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think there's any clear pick, you know. Uh-huh. I guess the two teams that you can't count out are the Celtics because of Bird, and the Lakers because of Magic Johnson. Uh-huh. They are two guys that seem to find a way when they, When it's on the line. When it's on the line, they seem to find a way. You know, Uh-huh. uh, so, those are what makes a champion I guess. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Well, it's been nice talking to you. Nice talking to you. All right. Take care.
Take care. Bye. Okay. Okay, now when you baby-sit, what age group children do you sit with? Well, gosh all kinds, um, mostly between the ages of two and ten. Uh-huh. Um, last, like a few summers ago I kept two children every day for the entire summer and, I mean, they became like my children I'd think so. And, um, and they live in an apartment complex so we swam a lot and we played on the playground a lot and then we would go to a movie on Thursdays and, um, there was always an activity, you know, they had their favorite T V shows and things like that that we watched and then we took naps and, um, I don't know
it, it just seems like there was always something to do. Children are so full of energy. Uh-huh. And, oh, they were, they just, they just keep you going Now was this a one parent or two parent family? Uh, one parent. One parent. Yeah. She's just, How much time did she spend with them? Not much at all I mean, I would get there at eight o'clock in the morning, the children usually weren't awake by then. And she would get home at like five thirty in the afternoon. Uh-huh. And they would have dinner and then it was time for them to go to bed. Uh-huh. Um, now at this particular time the children were two and six. But then I also,
I've been baby-sitting this child, uh, for about eight years, he's nine now and, um, you know, I've watched him grow up and he's like a little brother to me. Uh-huh. And it's changed over the, over the years, um, we get along a lot better now that he's older. Uh-huh. And, uh, we do different things now, we used to play ball a lot but now it's, he likes to watch T V and he's into wrestling. And, um, I kept him on Friday night, we went we went to go see a movie and, um, things like that but I feel like, I don't know, when I have children I want to be able to spend a lot of time with them. Yeah, you say your, you go to school? Uh-huh, I go to L S U. And what are you studying?
Uh, communications. Well, sounds like your getting a lot of experience in communicating with children Oh, yeah, I mean, I love children. Uh-huh. Um, I don't know, seem, this looks like a typo for 'see,' when I was growing up my Mom stayed at home with me and my brother until we were in junior high. And I don't, it would, I think it was very beneficial to us. Uh-huh. I mean, like in the summer we were always in the library programs reading books and we went skating a lot and, you know, she was just always there for us, but nowadays if there are two parents to a family, the mother works just as hard as the father does, and the children either stay at home and get into trouble or they're stuck in a day care. And I just, I just don't want my children to have to be raised like that. All my friends, they, their parents worked all the time, they got to stay at home by themselves and when I was younger I thought they were lucky because they got to get away with things, like I couldn't ride my bike across the street, but they could because their Mom would never know it.
Uh-huh. Yeah. But now I realize that it was better because, um, they have got into a lot of trouble, because of lack of supervision. Uh-huh. Well, that, that certainly can happen now if you, you say you're in communications, Uh-huh. uh, what base of communications would you be most interested in getting in to? Well, I'm majoring in, uh, public relations. Public relations, so, so, you would have a job with a company? Rather than, uh, radio or television or newspapers or, what have you. Yeah. Yes, ma'am. Right. Uh-huh. Yeah, and, uh, then you'd be willing to give up your job to stay home and with, or stay with the children? Well, I would like to, uh, stay at home with my children for at least the first five years. Uh-huh. But what, what I plan to do in the future is, um, go ahead and get my upper education as far as my masters, and work on my doctorate and teach, um, college,
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and in that case then I'll be, I'll be at home when my children are at home, but I'd like to stay at home with them until they get in, at least into kindergarten, where they're at school from what, eight to three or something Uh-huh. and then I would be at my school, teaching. Uh-huh. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And, um, Well, that, that's, uh, is an advantage of being in the education field. I spent thirty-four years in education. Oh, really? Yes, and, so, What grade? oh, I started out with college and then went to high school and then I preferred the high school age level much better than I did the college, because you have a closer relationship with the, uh, students, that, Oh, did you? What did you teach?
I taught physical education. Oh, oh, I started out as a P E major, in education. Uh-huh. I wanted to be a P E teacher. Well, I sure did. I, uh, I found that, uh, it was a perfect combination from the standpoint of having vacations off at the same time. Oh, yeah. And, uh, and it worked out fine from that standpoint, uh, plus the fact that, uh, when I left, uh, usually, uh, my husband was seldom home for maybe forty-five minutes or so and then our son, he had to get on the bus, Uh-huh. and he did get on the bus, it was his responsibility and he never ever thought of, uh, not going to school he said, in view of the fact that he was certain I had a hot line to his school. Because, uh, I, uh, Absolutely. well, I, I was in physical education then and I just kept getting pushed into administration, wound up in administration, and so, he thought surely that I, or I would have bought a hot line, to know if he ever skipped school, which, of course, was not the case
Oh. and I wouldn't have checked on him. However, uh, there are, there are, points both directions in that, uh, from the standpoint of parents working and not working. Yeah. Uh, I listened to more than one parent say I don't know what this child wants. I'm working two jobs, they each have their own television, they each have their own telephone, they each have their own rooms, they each have this, they each have that. I'd say , but what they don't have is you. That's right. They need some attention. Absolutely. And, uh, I think out because that is the way of getting attention. Well, see whenever my Mom stayed home with us, we did without a lot, I mean, we were, it's hard to make it on one income,
That's right. but we did and, and we lived in a trailer for eighteen years. Huh. And, um, you know, we, we only had one car, we only had one telephone, you know, Uh-huh. we didn't get to eat out all the time but I, I feel like that it helped me now because I appreciate the value of the dollar, Right. and, um, I also had the supervision that I needed while I was growing up, and I hope that I can provide that for my child too. And we certainly, uh, we need more of that, we need more parents willing to supervise, though we've had such a breakdown in the family structure, from the standpoint of, of, uh, church and school and everything along the way. Oh, we have. And that I think has contributed much to, uh, the delinquency that works grant and the poor school results that we're having. Uh, that the students', uh, parents have just not really taken enough interest in them from the very very beginning and I think my feeling was that the very best teachers should be in grades one, two, and three. To get the students off to a good start let them have positive, um, uh, experiences, from the lower levels so they want to continue learning and, uh, keep going and not wait until they're, they're in the ninth and tenth grades, Uh-huh. it's too late then,
you cannot, reverse that trend at that point. It is. It's way too late, Right. I agree. And, uh, while parents very often will be involved with the school activities when the child's in the elementary school and they get into the high schools so often they seem to drop away at that point. And, that is just as valuable, at that time, as to the rush in the elementary . It is. Because all the peer pressure, it starts in high school Yes, right. and the parent really needs to be there for the child. Right. And, uh, the child needs to take pride in the fact that their parent is doing something. Uh, we were fortunate in view of the fact that my son did play football and I did keep statistics for his team, and, his Dad did take movies of the football team and movies of the basketball team, Oh, great. and we tried to be a part of it but not overshadowing him or making him feel that we had to be there all the time. Yeah.
So, I feel that I learned a great deal from my students, uh, with regard to what their biggest complaints were with parents. And a thing such as, uh, one of the biggest complaints I well remember because I spent a lot of time with seniors, uh, was, um, carrying their when I was your age I didn't have this or that, Uh-huh. and I know I never ever said that because I knew that that was one thing that was really irritating to young people. Well, I guess that was good that you were, you were hearing it from other students. Yes, and I had to deal with their problems and I could talk about the kinds of problems which they were bringing that they had just in general aspect and our son would share this and then he would have to make decisions for himself along those same types of, of, uh, lines. So that, I think he benefited from my experiences. Well, um, Does your son work for T I? No. Oh. No, he, uh, works, uh, for a different company. Yeah, in the Dallas area
but when he went away to and he was on the lawns from the time he was in the seventh grade and, uh, a small and all the way through college and he held three jobs. Wally was in college * Could this Wally be "while he . . ."? and we didn't even know it. Oh, goodness. He didn't even tell us. Uh, that he had three jobs but when he graduated he had a five thousand dollar bank account and, uh, we had told him that if he ever wanted to go to college he could go, if he got married he was on his own, if he flunked out he was on his own ... Okay, um, yeah, one year public service for everybody. Is that, that was it, right? Right. Uh, who wants to start this one? I don't know, I've been, I've been sitting here thinking, yeah, because it was, you know, took a couple tries before I found somebody.
Well, you know, I'm like, I'm not really sure what I think about this. Um, uh, I mean, the first thing is, the uh, if it's going to be mandatory, it's got to be mandatory, I mean, everybody, not just like, you know, poor people and all that, you know. But, you know, senators' sons and all that stuff too. Right, right. I mean, everybody's got to do it. Um, I don't know, it'd probably be, it'd probably be good, I just don't know if, you know, I was eighteen or whatever, I'd want to be stuck doing it for a year or whatever. I'm not sure I want an eighteen year old to make that kind of decision. Uh, I mean, that, that doesn't sound right. Um, I guess I see overall beneficial, if, if we're going from that point of view. Uh-huh. Um. you know, in the past, I don't know, I don't know how old you are, but when I was, uh, in high school, it was the beginning of Vietnam and so forth. And many of my peers were being drafted. Uh-huh. And I could see that many of them had conscientious objections to war or whatever. But I, I felt strongly then that even if they didn't feel like they could kill someone, or go into a military situation, that they could help the country in other ways. Be it cleaning out, uh, lots, in, in their neighborhood or, whatever kind of community or public service might be available.
Uh-huh. And I guess I see that as, as not so much a demand but, but a privilege. It's, it's kind of, uh, uh, It's something, It is, uh, it's, it's since we live here and we all benefit, rich, poor or in between, uh, there are benefits even for those who have it the hardest. I just see that as maybe a good idea. I wouldn't mind doing it at forty-four. Uh-huh. Uh, and I find ways to, to turn some of that back to, to others. Uh, and I, I guess I, I can't see that as being something to really object to. Well, I guess it would still depend on how, I mean, if, if you're talking about if you're talking about something that's like a full time, you know, one year full time, you know, this is what you do, you know. You're going to go and, and fill pot holes and, you know, and, you know, all that stuff. I mean, I, you know, I don't know I could see a, a full, a a gamut of different kinds of opportunities. Things that need to be done, that that could be done in an hour or two, uh, a day, or several hours of the week. Like a half of a day on Saturday or something like that. In addition to what one does, uh, besides that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I, I can't, imagine what kind of, uh, uh, bureaucracies we'd get into and expense having it be full time,
oh, you're going to go to this camp and you're going to, you know, like, um, back in the Depression, the C C C, Yeah. it was needed, it gave some folks some jobs, and we got some great public works out of it. But, um, I don't see that as being necessary now. I can see it being done, uh, on a regular schedule. Uh-huh. Uh, everybody has to put in so many hours of, uh, public service in a given time, perhaps. Uh-huh. Uh, I, I guess I see all of us benefiting, and I, I don't see it just relegated to the young. But I see, I, I see so much going on that, that's bad. And this would give them a chance to have some positive self-esteem. Uh-huh. Something that they turn, back. Well, and also, you know, you, you feel more like, you know, you're actually part of the community if you've done something, in it.
That's right. You take pride in that, and, and get some, some positive feedback from those who benefit, besides yourself. Uh-huh. And I, I see it being most beneficial if it's in the neighborhood where or, or at least the area where the person lives. Uh, definitely. It might not be the same neighborhood, but the same city or county, because then you're, you're coming in contact with it. It's not as meaningful for me to go to Minnesota and do something up there that I'll never be able to see again, unless I happen to go on vacation, up there. Right. Yeah. It's, it almost needs to be something that has more impact for the individual, on going. Yeah. But as far as putting that into work, I don't want to, I don't want to deal with the, with the heartache of, first of all, getting it started and figuring out how to do the logistics, of it. Oh, that would, be a nightmare. And just, I mean, just getting, getting it going. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, see a lot of things like, uh, scouting, uh, Boys Clubs, Girls Clubs, things like that, that kind of get into that citizenship, uh, the uh, looking after the environment sort of thing Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And I guess, I don't see, uh, this being that different. But even more beneficial because it would be something that everybody participated in, and would take a turn in.
Uh-huh. Uh-huh Yeah. Do you have kids? no, not yet In about six months we will Oh, well good. you'll have a little time think about that. I guess, I, I have, uh, when I was teaching school I saw many, so many kids that were at loose ends and that didn't really have a purpose. And I can see, you know, some, some really significant things coming out of it. Uh-huh. I know you've got to get past that, that grudge attitude that many have, but that's, uh, that would be a part of selling it to the community. uh, parish or however the state was divided up. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, I may, well I don't know, around here we have a number of community projects that folks just volunteer for.
Boy Scout troops or church groups or civic clubs will, uh, police a, uh a couple of miles of the highway and and I, I've seen it in other states too. Yeah. They have, that here. Um, I don't know, um, they've got, um, in most of the states around here I think, uh. You know, down in North Carolina, there was a big controversy for a while, because they, uh, the local chapter of the K K K wanted to, uh, uh, to participate in it and, uh, and there were those that said, No, you can't do that, I'm sure. Well, uh, it was, it was interesting because that's an interesting question, you know. Yeah. Should these people be allowed to or not? I think they finally decided not to because they figured that stretch of highway was going to get trashed Oh. And I hadn't even thought about that, uh, the, the other end of that. That, that's an interesting, uh, situation. I hadn't thought of that. We had visited relatives in Virginia, not too long ago,
and I thought I had seen, when we were traveling around the state, some similar signs up that indicated that certain sections were being policed and cleaned up and, Yeah. I think Virginia's got it and I know Maryland does, and we just, we went to Indianapolis last weekend, and back. And, um, I'm pretty sure I saw, yeah, stuff in Ohio and Indiana about it and Pennsylvania, maybe Pennsylvania, I don't remember for sure now. And I don't know about your part of the country, but, uh, down here in the last, oh, year plus, I, it was beginning with last year's Earth Day There's just been more of a turn toward uh, environmental concerns, Uh-huh. and I work for Texas Instruments. Uh-huh. And they, they've started some recycling campaigns that a year before that had been turned down because they said, Well, it's not feasible, Uh-huh. it's not a good idea. And, I see that as being, I, I see that as being a, a, a change, uh, for the positive. Kind of along the same line as, as, as the mandatory thing. Yeah. And but then they lost, too much business It's just, thing, a part of everyone's consciousness.
Uh-huh. Well, the thing about that is though, it's got a, I mean because it was, I mean it was big, you remember, like in the early seventies and all that. And, you know, and then it kind of just went out of vogue. And I, I'm worried that it, it might, you know, it'll, it, the same thing will happen. It's like, you know, environmentalism was really big for a couple of years and then people like, well, you know, I'd ruther, rather spend, you know, fifty cents less on, uh, on, on such and such, you know, and even if it's not environmentally safe, who cares, you know. I'm sure the pendulum will swing the other way. Uh, there have been too many other things that it's done that for, just in my life. And if you look at history at all, you see that, you know, uh, we go from one side to the other on just about any subject, that you, one might care to bring up. Yeah. But, it is comforting to me to see, uh, more concern about some of these things that, that cost us money. Especially when we have dwindling, uh, resources such as oil that's burning out of control in the Persian Gulf, and, and so forth. Just, just every little bit does, it makes me feel better. It, it makes me feel like, well, there may be something left for my children, my nieces and nephews and so forth. Well, yeah, uh. Well, uh, wouldn't,
it's just probably a good thing that the oil's burning and may, may, make some people realize that hey, you know, this stuff runs out. That's, that's right, because, Of course, that's probably blasphemy for you to say, uh, coming from where you are in Texas. Uh, no, no, because if, we, what was it, seventy-four when we had the, the last last oil crisis? And, uh, we started getting smart and, and we were looking all these alternative sources of the energy and so forth. Uh-huh. And as soon as the oil prices came back down, we, the pendulum swang the other way. Right. And we need those reminders. Yeah. Uh, or we'll suddenly be in the dark and say, Oh, my goodness, now we don't have the ability to go on to some new technology. Right. Well, my dad's in the, in the solar energy business, so, uh, You know, we're acutely aware of a lot of this. Ah! But, you know, on the other hand, he voted for George Bush,
so um, you know, I, I wonder sometimes if he knows what he's doing. Well, I you know, just about anybody you could name, whether I voted for them or not, uh, makes, um, uh, decisions that I just can't go along with. Uh-huh. But that's why they're there and not me. I don't want the, I don't want the stress. Yeah. Well, the, the thing with Bush ... Okay, uh, I was just trying to think about how I, how I dress for work, you know, T I is a very casual atmosphere. Uh-huh. And, uh, what I usually do on the weekend is, is lay out five outfits and, uh, on Monday I, I wear the, the worst looking one Because it doesn't seem like people are really, you know, are that alive on Monday, you know, so. Yeah. And then progressively through the week, I'll, I'll wear nicer looking things and then on Friday most everybody wears jeans, jeans and sweatshirts, or, you know, jeans and blouses or something like that. Uh, but mostly what I wear are skirts and blouses or, you know, skirts and, uh, pullover sweaters or, uh, you know, little two piece dress suit, suits like, but.
Yeah, uh, you know, that's a good way to approach it. I've never thought about, um, I do plan my clothes a week in advance. Actually, I plan them a month in advance. I usually do a month at a time, so I don't repeat an outfit. Uh-huh. But, um, I've never thought about wearing your worst outfit on Monday, because really no one's paying attention. But anyway, um, I really, I don't work outside of school. Um, I work in the computer lab at school so I can just wear whatever I have on for school, an, and, um, and really it's, I try to dress presentable but very comfortable. Right. Like, um, in the warm weather it's always shorts and a t-shirt or a button up or something like that and then in the winter time it's jeans or, or pants. I usually, uh, you know, college is so casual, you really don't want to dress up unless you, you, uh, have a job
and you have to be there right after school or something like that, so. Right. Like where I work, it's, it's pretty casual, uh, it's, it's, I guess it's more like a, a college campus also, I mean there's you know, hundreds of people work for T I. Yeah. And, uh, a lot of people just, just wear jeans and, and, uh, sweats all the time and they dress up like when customers are coming in, or, uh, when we have department meetings or something like that. And, uh, you know, a lot of people like those that work in the legal department for their, the real, uh, higher ups, like the the, the T I lawyers, and, uh, those that work for the, the higher executives, those secretaries. They, uh, they really dress up all the time. Uh-huh. Oh. So there's a good combination in the hallways all the time, you know Well that's good that they're so casual. Yeah. I mean, uh, my brother works for T I and he's a computer programmer, or computer engineer. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And, uh, you know, whenever he was going to school, he was expecting to having to wear, uh, a tie or a dress shirt everyday.
But, uh, he goes to work in his blue jeans, t-shirt, and tennis shoes, Uh-huh. and he just loves it. And that's very acceptable at T I. Yeah. I believe at I B M they, they make you wear a blue suit and, uh, some kind of colored shirt and a tie. That's what I've heard. Uh-huh, I I would hate to be in that atmosphere. But, uh, I mean, they, they just moved into the new building, he calls it the new building. I don't know, it's where all the executives are. Uh-huh. And, um, and so they were, they were going to try to take their blue jean code with them and trying to get all the, all the upper level to start wearing blue jeans. But, he just left for Italy today at four, Oh. and he'll be over there until July first setting up some kind of computers for them. I see. Over in T, I mean for T I but over in Italy.
Yeah, oh, T I is everywhere. Oh, yeah, he was so excited about going. Uh-huh. But, uh, he didn't carry any ties or anything because he, he just went over there with the that attitude, well if I don't take it then they won't make me wear it That's true, that's a good idea. Because, uh, he just, he didn't, you know, he's not really into all that. He would wear it if he had to for his job and all but, you know, if he had the preference, I mean his, his preference is, um, blue jeans and a t-shirt, so. Uh-huh. But I think that's great about T I, and also, uh, to get off the clothing, the smokers, you know, how they have the, the different designated areas for smokers and stuff. The, no, Right. I think that's great.
Yeah, and if you happen to go into one of areas that is a smoke, smoke area and you don't smoke, you almost strangle. Oh, really. Do you smoke? So much smoke in the air. Yeah, areas, the smoking area, you know, it's closed in, Uh-huh. and if you if you don't smoke and you go in there, everybody that goes in there smokes so it's full of smoke when, when you go in there. I used to smoke a long time ago. I think that's, um, I used to burn my clothes, talking about getting back to clothes I used to burn my clothes with cigarettes. That's one of the reason that I stopped Well, um, you mentioned your daughter had graduated from college. Well when she was in high school did she always have to have all the new fashions and, uh? Yeah,
she always had, uh, yeah, she always had to have a lot of clothes. See that's how, that's how I am but my mamma was not raised like that and so, No, I, I wasn't either, she, my daughter, she's real good at finding sales though, you know. Oh, me to, boy I have to, hunt them down she'll buy a lot of, yeah, she'll buy a lot clothes, at the end of seasons, you know, and, uh, just have them for the next year. Uh-huh. And she, you know, she finds all the outlets and all the discount places and, uh, buys clothes. Uh, you know, when they were coming up, I, I didn't sew, but now I've, I've learned how to sew, so I'm, well I'm, I'm still learning how, but I'm and I'm getting much better at it and I, I'm going to be able to make my own clothes. That's great. I wanted to take a sewing class at school but I just haven't fit it into my schedule yet,
but that, I mean, that can really benefit. Right. Um, that's something that I'd be very interested in, very interested in learning. Right, because clothes are are really expensive. You know, Uh, they're outrageous! uh, uh, a little simple shell, shell blouse, you know, that you can make for about, say ten dollars at, you know, at, at the most out of a decent fabric, boy, runs you like twenty something dollars in the store. Uh-huh. Yeah it's, it's marked up. Just a little shell to go under a suit, you know. It is, it is really outrageous but, uh, I mean like whenever I, I was growing up and all, my mom, I never understood this then, but I do now, but she never would buy me like the new designer jeans that had come out that were thirty dollars, or, um, or she wouldn't buy me the fifty dollar tennis shoes and stuff like that Uh-huh. and she always told me it was because I was still growing and she wasn't going to buy me something I was going to grow out of next week. Right,
especially to pay that kind of money for it. Yeah. I have a friend who, uh, she had a, she had a a little boy and, uh, she used to dress him out of Neiman Marcus. I mean, she dressed him, uh, fabulously. Oh no And then, seems like every time she turned around he was outgrowing stuff. Uh-huh. And she finally learned that you just can not do this, you know. *can not cannot So now she finds the basement sales and, just like, you know, everybody else. That's the best way to shop. I mean, I always thought my mom was being mean to me but I look back at it now and my child is going to, I mean, I'm going to raise mine the same way. Right. Um, I don't know, I just, they're just so outrageously priced, it's just incredible.
Yes, and you, I try to, uh, always catch the sales. Right. Always And, yeah, and you just have to keep buying them, you know. If you, if you, if you're not buying the most expensive clothes out there the, the quality is really not that great, you know, for the price that you pay. Yeah, it, it depends on, um, yeah, there's, there's always a reason why they're on sale Right. So that, that has a lot to do with it. Right. But, um, well, Like I bought, I bought the most beautiful uh, sweater from, uh, I believe it was Ross Dress For Less Uh. And it it was really pretty,
it was just, you know, it was just plain, a plain, uh, you know, round, uh, necked, uh, sweater. Uh-huh. And it had, like, it was embellished around the, the top, you know, it had, uh, leather, leather designs and, um, some other, other little things on it and I just thought it was so pretty and I I got it at a real good price, I think maybe it was nine ninety-nine or something. Oh, that's great. And it was so pretty, and after I wore it a couple of times I realized why, why it was, it was so cheap. Uh, oh. There was, in the middle of the back of it, there was, it's like there, it had been slit and they had like just sewed it back together, right in the middle of the back, you know, Oh, no. wasn't a seam or anything, you know. Uh-huh And that's why it was so cheap, although, it's not, it's not really noticeable, like she was moving the uh, from the outside, but, but still, it's, you know, it's really not, not, not a good quality.
And then I was told by somebody that works for J C Penney's that, uh, Ross, Ross is just one of those places that sell, sells seconds. The defect. Yeah, yeah, um, they don't really buy the first quality, they buy the second. And, uh, places like J C Penney's that they'll reject the seconds, they'll send them back every time. Uh-huh. But places like Ross Dress For Less and, uh, T J Max. T J Max does that, Uh-huh. yeah we have a T J Max over here and, um, Okay, what do you think about it? Well, uh, the roles have definitely changed in the last generation or so. Oh, yeah. Um, I think a lot of it has to do with women working.
Uh-huh, yeah, I do too. I think it's going to, in, like in the future, I think all women are going to work. Yeah. I mean, they may let you off for a day or two to have your baby, but that will be it, Yeah. or either they'll have a computer at home and in the hospital where you can just, you know, just continue right on with your work. yeah. I mean, it really is coming to that because most women now days cannot afford the time that they could take off unless the company pays them. Right, right. They can't even afford to take off, you know, to have children it seems like. And it, and it seems, if you're going to have kids, uh, that you are, you know, society has decided for you how many you can really have and make it. Yeah. And, uh, because if you have, you know, two, well, if you go to work, you're, just working to pay for day care, two or three, you know, um. Right. Now, I was real lucky because my husband had a good enough job where when my kids were, you know, when I had them and when they were small, until they got in junior high school, my youngest got in junior high, I didn't have to work.
Uh-huh. Oh, that is good. I mean I didn't work, I, I needed to but I didn't. Yeah, Steve's, Steve has a sister who has four. She just had her fourth one in, uh, March and she doesn't have to work either. I don't know how they do it. I I don't know how people do it with one, you know, um Let me tell you, you go without a lot of things that you you know. yeah, obviously we don't have any and, and I don't, I think that's part of the role reversal, is it's okay to get married and not have kids. Oh yeah. And I think for society for such a long time said, well, you know, you're married, now you need to have, have your family and I don't think it's been until recently that, that they had decided that two people was a family. Right,
right. You know and, Well it's getting where you can't hardly afford, if you're going to give your kids any kind of education and stuff you can't hardly afford to have over two. Right. And I mean it's hard with two, now, we, uh, my youngest one, I have two, I have a son and a daughter, and my youngest one is going to be graduating from college soon, Oh! and if I had a third one, I just don't know where it would come from. Yeah. Because I work now, I work full time and, uh, you know, it, when you put them through college it just takes just about everything you got. Yeah. They get loans and grants and scholarships and stuff like that, that helps out,
but still, it cost a lot. Oh, yeah, I mean, just the, you know, the cost of living and loans don't pay for groceries and stuff. Right, and cars and all their books, and the books are outrageous. I mean, absolutely outrageous, Oh, I know, I know. and they're getting worse. Uh, my daughter brought home a book the other day that she was going to have to have for her, one of her next classes and it was like ninety-six dollars. Gee And this book is a little bitty skinny book. Yeah. I said my goodness, what is it, lined in gold, you know, uh. Yeah. But it is, it's getting worse, and, if I'd of probably had three or four children, I don't see how we could have made it, you know, without me working. But that's, that's probably because, you know, if you had three, you, you know, would say, if I'd of had four. I guess it's always not, not being able to picture one more,
but in essence you probably would have worked out fine. Right, but I think I would have had to work. Yeah. If I'd of had that many, I'd of had to work in order for my kids to, you know, even though he brings in a real good living and everything, in order for me to keep up, I would have had to work. Yeah. But I think it's getting more and more like, when you have one child now, that's it, you know, then you go to work and you work, Yeah. because if you have two or three kids, by the, way the inflation's going I think a woman's always going to have to work and it's just going to be an accepted thing. There isn't going to be any of this, you know, very few people will ever stay home. Yeah, and, and that's all right with me, because I don't want to stay home Yeah. you know, I think I'm just part of the new stuff, that is just, I don't know, I think I would just go nuts sitting at home all day long. Well you know, I can't imagine how I did, because now I work all the time,
Yeah. and, um, well I work all week, and, um, I can't imagine how I stayed home. Yeah. You know, I think to myself, what did I do. And I think it just, it revolutionized an, where a woman thinks that a way, you know, just like, now my daughter, there's no way that she can imagine herself married at the age that she's at now To her everything is, you've got to go through college, you've got to get a job, you know. And then when everything's set up, then you look for somebody that you want to spend the rest of your life with, but. I mean it is so far down the road, Right. where, now when I graduated high school, the thing, That's, you did, that's what you did. Uh. uh-huh, and then you got married and then you had a family. I mean that's just the way it was, you know. Yeah And, uh, that's like when my I know when my mother's age it was always the kids and the family and everything had to come first
and the woman stayed home and took care of them, an. I, uh, I, I like the way it is. Yeah. It's, uh, being, see, we're from Houston and so it's not so hard for people, you know, you've been married three or so years and you don't have kids, well it's okay, nobody does. But you come to a place like Belton, and a lot of the kids here get married out of high school. Uh-huh. It's real small town, and and a lot of people in our we're the only couple in our Sunday School class, except for one other couple, who are in their forties, and they can't have children, who don't have children. And they can't imagine why we would want to have children. * I think the word might be "wouldn't", otherwise it doesn't make sense. And, I'm going well, you know, there's more to life, you know, there's life in there that's, you know, not everybody has to have kids,
and, I'd rather spend the time with my husband than, you know, spending time, here, it's your turn, you know. Yeah, but, you know, that, now even whenever I was coming up and everything and we got married right out of high school, well a year after I got out of high school Uh-huh. and, uh, I didn't have kids for four and a half years but that was because I wanted to work and I wasn't ready for kids. Yeah, I think that's what it is, I'm not either. And, everybody thought, oh, my gosh, what is the matter with her, you know. They're probably going, oh, I bet she can't get pregnant Right, I mean they thought that it was terrible, you know, and then when I'd tell them, you know, well I'm just not ready for children yet, oh, but that, you know, you better, you better just get ready now. Yeah.
Well you don't just get ready. But I was kind of odd because as a general rule the people that married during my time, they had kids within a year. Yeah. And I just was not ready for kids. I wanted to get out and work a little bit and I wanted to travel and stuff like that, which we did. And, uh, kids didn't fit in right then, but, it's getting more and more like that where there's more and more couples and, really, if you don't want the kids, then it's not the time to have, I don't care what anybody tells you. Right. And I think that more and more the attitude's getting that a way. Because that's like my daughter now, she says that, you know, maybe when she's thirty she might want a child then. Yeah. And, uh, even though I'd like to have grandchildren, I can see her point. Yeah, Steve's mom finally, uh, finally you know, said that, that God will take care of us when it's our time. Right. She finally admitted, you know, she finally told me it's okay if you don't,
but it took every nerve in her body to say that because she's from a very, very old fashioned family. Uh-huh. And, she stayed home and raised her kids and, and she expected all of her kids to do that too, and their wives and to be the, the housewife and have dinner ready by five and, and, you know, be there at every beck and call and, I was raised totally opposite How we got together, I don't know, but. Because my mother had six girls, and, you know, she worked too. Yeah. And, I guess I just and I saw how life was when she stayed home and it was rough, it was hard, and, uh. Yeah, and it really is, I know, just like now, you know, there's, there's so much more now. All my income goes for things like luxuries,
I mean, it really does. Accept for what we give to my daughter, to, you know, put her through college and stuff. * Spellingusage: "Accept" should be "Except" Uh-huh. But the rest of it we just buy things like boats, or we go on trips, or, you know, just the more or less like entertainment stuff, Right. but. Yeah, I think you've, you've earned that though. Yeah, I feel like I have, you know, because well, we're just a age now, I'm not old but, I'm older. Uh-huh. And, uh, I got to stay home with my kids, which I really wanted to do, but now I could not go back and do it. Yeah. And I mean, I did stuff but, to me it feels like I must have done nothing. Right.
And I think it's just the new way that people are thinking. Yeah, I think so. But, uh, I think it would be neat if, if they could incorporate into small and large businesses both a built in day cares where the children were there in the facility but not necessarily right there with you. Well you know more and more of them are, I don't know if it is up there where you are but where I am, the, just like all the hospitals, they're getting day care. Uh-huh. Are they? But the reason they had to do this was because so many people, you know, so many women could not afford, like you said if you had four kids, or even if you had two kids, you would be paying all your salary to pay for those two kids to go. Right. So, uh, more and more of our hospitals, especially, over here are getting them and then some of the bigger companies, but it's mainly the hospitals. Yeah, I don't know if the T I in Dallas does or not. I know, I know nobody around here does, it, we're, it's too small around here.
Oh really. Yeah. All right. Okay. Well, I can go ahead and start and tell you mine and, Okay. We're from San Antonio and that's where I grew up, Oh, So I was used to the heat, out here right now, Yeah. Gosh, it gets to about seventies, high seventies and it gets very cold at night. Uh-huh. And Monterey it's, um, right on the coast. And, I don't know if your familiar with California coastline, *your you're but we're we're about two hours, about a two hour drive south of San Francisco, Oh, okay. And it's, uh, really nice.
It's a big area for people to come from the different, uh, countries, mostly like Japan, Germany and England. And they usually go to Carmel and vacation on the beaches, so it's, it's pretty nice, uh, year round. But, uh, cool, always cool in the evenings. And warm, warm in the Summer, but it's stays pretty cold even, uh, during the Winter, for as nice as it is. Uh-huh. And, um, we usually get a fog. Uh, right about, I guess, about four o'clock and it kind of rolls in over the coast. And, uh, then it usually breaks back off again the next morning. And if you go just a little bit ways in, I'd say about a fifteen minute drive in towards Salinas, uh, the weather completely changes Uh-huh. and it gets very hot and dry and the fog never makes it that far. Uh-huh. But along here it's, uh, very very different from the Texas type weather. What's it like down there? Well, right now we're we're having the little bit of Spring that we have. Oh, really, well at least you've got some We don't have many seasons here.
It goes from Winter to Summer, usually. Uh-huh. Spring usually consists of a lot of rain. Especially thunderstorms. We've got, we had one of those blow through tonight. Oh, well, that's good. And I think we got the same thing in the forecast for the next two or three days. Uh-huh. So. Have y'all been having any heat waves or like the ninety degree, It's gotten up to, uh, ninety a couple of times. Uh-huh. But, basically, it's been in the low seventies and eighties. Uh-huh. Women, that's good. For this time of year. Yeah. It's not really been too bad. Uh-huh. Usually it sneaks on into the nineties a little earlier. Uh-huh. So do y'all have many bluebonnets and stuff this year?
Yeah, quite a bit. Oh, Uh-huh. Well, the season is just about over for that, uh, in fact we drove down to Corpus last week Uh-huh. and, uh, there were still some paint brushes and bluebonnets down along the way. Oh, I miss that drove through San Antonio and I spoke to somebody else this morning from San Antonio and were, they had, and we came back. What day was that, Sunday evening, and they had a big rainstorm come through there, part of the same thing we're getting now, I guess. Oh. Oh, well that's real nice because I can remember two years ago that in about February the hundred degree weather started in San Antonio and just continued. At least y'all are getting some rain up in Dallas. I'm glad to hear that Yeah. That's the second or third year in a row that we've had a real rainy Spring.
Uh-huh. We had a pretty rainy Fall last year, as well. Y'all weren't getting any of the strings of the tornadoes and stuff were you? Um, we've had a few down here, but not anything like Kansas. Uh-huh. But this is the season for that. Oh, gosh. They do, they do pop up occasionally, around here. Uh-huh. Oh Yeah. I really don't miss all the heat there. Yeah. I'm getting acclimated to have the cool evenings so we get a bit of a relief. Yeah. I'm from here originally, so when it's July and August, I'm pretty well used to the, hundred degree temperatures. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah
The biggest problem with, with the weather and the rain in this area is the soil. It's that black clay soil. Oh. Is that what Dallas is, okay. Yeah. You know, it's not sandy like most of the state is, so it doesn't absorb the water real well. Uh-huh. You know, once it rains a little bit, it's, it's filled up and everything else just runs off, Uh-huh. you know. Yeah. San Antonio has that same problem when the rains come. It's, it's a complete mess, everything floods, all the under passes. Yeah. I didn't realize that Dallas had that same problem. Yeah. We have it, especially as rainy as it's been in the last couple of years. And there's a section in South Dallas that's had a whole lot of flooding problems because of the rain.
Uh-huh. Well, we could use some rain up here. We're like in the bottom of the fourth year of drought, up here Really. and they had a pretty good early Spring and we got quite a bit of rain, but it wasn't enough to offset what they lost over the last four years. Uh-huh. And, uh, so they're still talking water rationing this Summer, so it would seem strange because in San Antonio, we had lived out, um, west of San Antonio, in Castroville, Uh-huh. And the water in Medina Lake and that area was really going down, that they were considering that they might have to do water rationing and I thought oh, gee I'm so glad to get out of there and get up here to the California Pacific coast where it rains and everything has flowers and there's no problem with water. And then I came here and found out they were in the, you know, four year draught Uh-huh. So I said, well, gee, this is pretty much like Texas. And it pretty much is in the middle of Summer. They have rolling hills around here
but, um, they turn to golden dead grass, for the majority of the Summer just because there is no water to keep them green. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. But, um, it's a really nice area. It's just, it's just such a change from, uh, Texas because I had grown up with, uh, the heat, Uh-huh. and used to essentially, like you said, you have the cold Winter and then you have the hot Summer Spring Uh-huh. And, uh, to come here, it's kind of the temperate weather all year round. It's kind of like, uh, Spring, I guess, if you, year round, except, and then in the Winter and then it seems sort of like a San Antonio early Winter or Fall, year-round. Uh-huh. So it seems like we only have two Springs which is, or two seasons and that would be Spring and Fall. Yeah. We never really get any of the other ones.
Uh-huh. But it's a really nice, uh, change of pace. I guess I'd prefer that Yeah. To the heat. I really don't miss the heat. Yeah. Um, we do a lot of, you know, when you do a lot of outside, like running and stuff, it's just so much easier, up here Uh-huh. and you don't have to worry about the high humidity. Yeah. Does Dallas get high humidity? Or is it pretty dry. It's pretty dry. We get some when it's this rainy, but it's nothing like, I guess, San Antonio Summers, it's nothing like Houston. Uh-huh. or East Texas, is a little more humid.
Yeah. It seems like San Antonio is increasing in humidity over the years, because I had lived in San Antonio for about twenty years, Uh-huh. and it just seemed like every year it just got more and more humid, more and more humid And here it's, uh, well it's right by the ocean, Uh-huh. but, um, it's not the same as Corpus. Corpus, you get that humid salty feeling in the air. Uh-huh. But here, um, well the water is extremely cold, up here, you can lay on the beach all you want, but if you want to go wind suffering or diving or swimming, you have to wear a wet suit. And a thick wet suit at that, because it's just extremely cold Uh-huh. and I, for some reason, because of the cold, uh, ocean, uh, water, the air is always cool. It's never humid or sticky or salty feeling, so I really like that about this area. And, uh, we just hadn't expected it, we were used to, what, uh, gulf coast weather was like, when we came here to Pacific coast weather. Yeah.
It's just completely different and it's much nicer. Yeah. Probably the Pacific breezes make a lot of difference, Uh-huh. It does and the air doesn't feel anything like it does along the gulf coast region. But you, um, but we like it so it's a nice change. So we'll be here a couple of years and we thought well, we'll take advantage of it and see what all the Pacific coast is like. That's nice. So it's been good. Well, my wife's originally from Virginia and we lived there for about nine months and that was a real change for me. Oh, I imagine. Virginia, I imagine, gets real humid, doesn't it? Um, parts do.
We, we're over in the western edge in the mountains. Oh. And, they have, of course, some pretty severe storms, Winter storms, snow and that type of thing. Uh-huh. But they're so good about clearing the roads, that, you know, it doesn't usually bother you very much. Uh-huh. Yeah Not like Texas where everything comes to a stand still. Yeah. Their Springs and Summers are pretty mild, too. It never gets real, real hot. Uh-huh. I'll have to try that out because I had heard that North Carolina was sort of like that. Uh-huh. And, uh, I've just never really been in that region of the country and I guess I'm going to have to try that area sometime and see what it's like. Because a lot of people that are from that North Carolina region really like it. And, uh, they get the snow, but they said it doesn't really get messy and it doesn't really hang around that long.
Yeah. So, they, the people I know that are from there, uh, they always miss it and they want to go back Nothing seems quite as good. But, anyway. Well, Well, as we were talking the weather came on and there's a flash flood watch and, more rain for the next three or four days. Oh, gee-whiz. Oh, gosh. Well, I hope it moves up this way, but I'm sure it won't Yeah. Maybe we can send you some Yeah. Because we could sure use it. Well, you think that takes care of the time and, I think that will do it. Okay. Well, I sure appreciate hearing how things are going in Texas and, uh, Well, I enjoyed talking with you Lisa,
Yeah. Good luck to you. Uh-huh. You, too. Okay. We'll see you. Bye. Bye. Well, what movies have you seen recently, Valerie? Let's see, the last one we saw was THELMA AND LOUISE. Oh, we haven't seen that one yet. Well, don't bother Oh, it wasn't that good. Well, oh, from a woman's point of view and it was very, uh, chauvinistic as far as women go. Uh, it was, it was entertaining, but, yeah, I don't think the general audience would, would go for it. The most recent one that, uh, my wife and I have seen was the CITY SLICKER. How was that?
That was excellent. It was just a really, a really funny movie. That is one I've been dying to see. At the same time, it had a story line about people trying to find themselves. There were parts that were sad. I mean, it just ran the gamut of emotion. Uh-huh, uh-huh, and, And, but it was just all around entertaining. How long did that movie run? Uh, it's still on, to the best of my knowledge. But, I mean, time wise, how long, was it two hour Oh. or, Uh, it's, I think it's less than two hours. Uh-huh. Okay, okay.
We, we rented one recently that seemed to go on forever That always seems to happen when you rent them, you know Yeah, but this one, it was fairly long. I, I'm guessing probably an hour and forty-five minutes, maybe. Uh-huh, uh-huh, and, uh, it, But excellent acting by Billy Crystal and Bruno Kirby, Was it, oh, good. Uh-huh. uh, who was the, oh, Jack Palance had an excellent part in there as the old cowboy. Oh, great. So we really enjoyed that. Oh, well, I'm looking forward to seeing that one. That was next on our list, so, uh, Yeah, I think that, uh, I can highly recommend that movie this, to see.
Okay, okay, good deal Yeah. good deal. Do you rent movies very often, or, Uh, we generally rent a couple a week. Uh, in order to get a decent movie to have on a weekend, you've got to rent it on Thursday. Right. Right. They get they get taken up at the store, That's exactly right. so, Uh-huh, uh-huh. We will rent two or three movies on Thursday and, uh, with luck, you'll have one or two that are good. Yeah, right,
right. Most of them are a coin flip Oh, gosh. Yeah, yeah. And we usually have, oh, we don't get out as much as we like. We have two children, so we occasionally get out to the movies Yeah. but, uh, it's, it's fun, it's a fun thing to do to get out and be entertained for once. Yeah, well, Quite frequently, we have our grandchildren on the weekends Uh-huh. and, uh, we'll try to rent something that they can see as well as something else that we can see and, Uh, Uh, generally try to stay in the at least P G range. Uh-huh. What ages are they? Have you found trouble finding movies for them or, Right.
The, uh, the oldest is nine, the youngest is three. He doesn't really pay attention. Yeah, yeah. The five year old doesn't have the attention span, either. Uh-huh, uh-huh. But the, the nine year old will watch anything that's on T V Uh-oh, uh-oh, yeah. So, They have been doing that. We've been waiting for a, a good movie out this summer for the kids to see. The last one they saw was HOME ALONE and, uh, they enjoyed that, but, uh, I missed that one. My husband took the kids to see that one so, Yeah, my wife took, uh, I think the kids to see that one,
but we can generally find something at the store for them to watch. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, well, that's a good deal. The, uh, oh, we saw this movie, PRESUMED INNOCENT was the one we rented, uh last weekend. Okay, let me think if I have rented that one. Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford and, how does the story line go? It's, uh, he is a prosecuting attorney and, uh, another prosecutor in the, a woman prosecutor in there is murdered Oh, okay, we haven't seen that one. and he's trying to find it, but, course, it's one of these with a twist where it looks like he's the one that wound up killing her so it's, And it's an extremely long movie. Uh-huh,
uh-huh. It's, it's over two hours long. Oh, gosh, oh, gosh. Which, uh, my wife she likes the suspense movies. I enjoy them to a degree. Uh-huh. I think that's the one I wanted to pick up the other day, and then my husband wasn't going to be able to watch it with me, so I thought I better save that one for another day Save that for another day. Yeah, because I think he'd like that one. Yeah. You enjoyed that one, then. Yeah, I think you, it's, uh, it's something I think you would enjoy, yes. Uh-huh,
okay, well, that's a good one to put on the list. It, it's like most suspense movies, what was it was on T V recently, uh, FATAL ATTRACTION. Uh-huh. It's one that, once you've seen it once and, uh, the suspense there is not really you really can't see it again Right, okay. so you know all the story and who did what and when it happened, Uh-huh. so once, once you seen one that's a suspenseful type movie like that, then it's, it's not good for a second watching particularly. Uh-huh, okay. Uh-huh, uh-huh At least I don't think so I don't think too many of them are anymore. It's, it's a shame, but, uh,
I don't know, we've watched WEEKEND AT BERNIE'S any number of times I know It's just slapstick comedy Oh, no Oh Sit there and laugh, and, my one grandson and I, my wife can't understand it, but we like BILL AND TED'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE which is another funny one Oh, gosh. Yeah, we've heard about that one, but we haven't seen that one either So, well, it sounds like you and your grandson like the same kinds of movies. Yeah, we like to laugh Oh, God. I, I have a theory. I like movies for entertainment.
I don't want to uh, go away depressed from watching a movie. Right. Right, right. I agree, I agree. Life's depressing enough That's for sure Well, I've certainly enjoyed talking with you. Well, you, too, Jim. Okay, bye. Thanks for punching in and, uh Have a nice weekend. I hope you see a good movie soon. Okay. Okay. Bye. Bye-bye.
Okay, I guess we're going to discuss food and cooking. Alright Do you enjoy cooking? Sometimes, not all the time I'm kind of that way, too. When I have, I, I enjoy cooking when I have time. Right. I don't enjoy preparing three meals a day everyday Yeah, that, that's about the same boat I'm in, too. It gets kind of boring. Yeah. How big is the family you cook for? Uh, five. Uh-huh. We have four, so, and two of them are teenage boys, so Oh, well I'll be hitting that fairly soon because all of mine are boys, too.
So, Are they? And they get pretty particular sometimes in what they want to have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we have that problem too. Huh. But also, now it's just the amount that they eat. It's just absolutely incredible Oh yeah, well see, I, my oldest is nine and he already he already does that Yeah. Does he? And I told him he's going to have to get a part-time job by the time he reaches teenage years so he can eat. . Yeah. That's true. Uh, do you have any favorite things that you serve when you are doing a special meal? Favorite recipes that you've come across or,
Um, My husband and I, our favorite meal is, uh, and we do it like for special stuff celebrations and, we have like steak Uh-huh. and he does the steak and then uh, Out on the grill? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And he marinates it in his special stuff that he does. Ooh And it's real good. Uh-huh. And, uh, I do sauteed mushrooms, How, so Ooh, yeah. and asparagus. And that's our favorite, dinner.
Ooh, that's sound good. I love that. My husband really likes seafood. Yeah, so do we like a Um, and, I think that no matter what I do, I don't serve enough of it, really, to, uh, to suit him. I didn't grow up eating that much seafood and, uh, so I don't know, it's just kind of not natural to me but I like it. Yeah. And, uh, I don't know, one of his favorite things is, uh, well it's called seafood stew and it's really, it's really like a soup that, that you serve over rice. Uh-huh. And, uh, it has oysters and shrimp and crab in it. And, It's not the one with all the shells and stuff in it, is it? No,
no. That's kind of Louisiana I think if you do that. I don't know what that, Yeah, I don't see how you eat that, but I don't either But, uh, no this is just it is really good and, and one thing that's good is it makes the, a large amount. And so I've, usually we eat one and I freeze two containers of it. Oh. Then that's just real quick to get it out and serve it over rice. But neither of my kids will eat it. You know, Yeah. so then they eat a pizza or So it, Yeah,
it defeats the purpose. Yeah, it really does. One thing I've run across, recently though, a friend gave me a recipe that I really like for chicken enchiladas. Oh yeah. Have you made them? Yeah. My husband makes those. Does he, ooh. I'm not, I don't eat enchiladas. Uh-huh. I, I don't like I don't like the I don't know, I guess it's the texture, or something. I don't like the taste of enchiladas. Yeah. But everyone else in my family does. Well, are, these are done with a flour tortilla. Is that what he uses?
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, I, it's, I don't know what, I don't know. I, I don't know what it is about the enchiladas. I just, and I'm the only one including my Mom and Dad and my brother. I'm the only one that doesn't eat it Isn't that something? Yeah. But, my kids love it. I was going to say, my kids both eat it. I guess that's one thing that I particularly like, um. But I think it's good for, you know, for, for company, too, and I've made it a few times. Um, and you can make a lot at one time when I needed to make something to, uh, to give somebody. You know, like, you know, to take over to somebody's house or something else. Uh-huh. Yeah Yeah.
Yeah, I've got a chicken casserole that's like that, that, that I've, It, it's nice when it makes, a lot because you can feed your own family and then, Yeah, because I, when I make this chicken casserole I, it, it makes a real big casserole and then another one that I freeze. Uh-huh. So, or I give it to my Mom and Dad if I know we're not going to eat, What, what does it have in it? It's you can use chicken or turkey, because my Mom started making it like right after Thanksgiving and using the leftover turkey. Uh-huh. Sure. Uh-huh. And it's rice and, , when I do recipes I just throw stuff in. I don't, I'm not real good about measuring Yeah. because I just,
I do it to taste. Uh-huh. Sure. And, Sometimes those are the best ones, Well yeah, but it, it's like, it's just chicken, it, it's, as much as you want, you know torn up and, and rice and cream of chicken soup and some mayonnaise and lemon juice and celery Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and that's it, and some hard-boiled eggs. Yeah. Ooh, that sounds good. And that's it. You just mix it all together and pop it in the oven just to, you know, heat it through. Uh-huh. And you sprinkle, uh, that, those, uh, toasted onion rings. On top of it for the crunchy. Oh, yeah. Those are good aren't they?
Uh-huh. And that's it, you know Um. And it, it, it goes That sounds good. and it's filling because of the rice. Right. So, You cook the rice before you put it in? Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. I bet the mayonnaise in there makes it really, kind of gives it a tang that would be good. Yeah, it gives it a, an extra yeah, little tang. I guess I would now use the, the new mayonnaise free. Yeah, that cholesterol fat free? Yeah. That's really wonderful that they're coming out with so many new things like that because like I told my husband this summer, I love to eat, you know, chicken salad and tuna salad and stuff like that
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and, and, you know, basically it certainly a low calorie, you know, good thing except then you put your mayonnaise in there and spoil the whole thing. I know. You know and now it's, it's, it's okay and you can even, I used to just put a tiny bit in. Well now, I'm just putting more and more in I don't like tuna salad unless it's got lots of mayonnaise in it. Yeah, and it's only, it used to be like a hundred calories per tablespoon and now it's like twelve. Yeah. Oh! I know. I just think that's the best thing to have happened, I'm just so excited about that. Anyway Yeah. Yeah, we did the low-cal stuff.
Well with my kids I don't, they get enough sugar and stuff anyway. Mine are bouncing off the walls normally anyway. Yes And they don't need any added help. Right. So, when we're here at home, you know, with sweets and stuff, they, they don't, we don't really do that much. I do a lot of fruits instead of the cakes and the candies and you know, stuff like that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And, and drink wise they have Kool-Aid, milk or water. Normally. Yeah. Now when they go to their grandmother's house, which is every weekend. It's a, it's a different a different story all around. That's when they, As our family would say, a pig out Uh-huh. That's good. That's exactly what it is. Oh, one of my boys that, that's, twelve, um, is, has high cholesterol. Oh really? Have you ever found out about your kids.
No, not yet. Um, and my other one does not. Huh. So, oh, year or so ago he found out and he went on a fairly strict diet to try to get it down. And did! He was able to get it down. It's, I think it's mostly hereditary because we really have never eaten high things in cholesterol. Yeah. He's never eaten any eggs. He's never had anything but skim milk and you know, I've never bought butter and things like that. Huh. But, um, oh, he just left for the doctor again and it's, it's kind of back up. Um, so he needs to be careful again. Yeah. So we've really been talking about the foods, you know, for him to, to be sure to eat The lower cholesterol foods and stuff and, uh, so he's eating an apple a day for the last two days
And all that kind of stuff does really help. Well, I think we've probably talked long enough and Okay, well I guess I enjoy eating out, um, uh, here and there, or it's, it's a good change and, a good change from cooking and eating at home and I guess I like a variety of, a variety of restaurants. Uh-huh. Uh, sometimes it's fun to go out and just have a hamburger and french fries and, and sort of a hamburger and french fry meal, and sometimes it's, I enjoy it's, I enjoy going out having a formal meal. Yes. And, uh, sometimes it's nice to go out and have a salad. Uh-huh. Something, you know, Do you usually go out, uh, with the children or without them? Well, a variety. I, I like to go sometimes without them and, sometimes I, sometimes it's okay to take them along. So Right
Sometimes I think we pay the baby-sitter as much as paying for their dinner or lunches Yes. so, uh, it just, you know, it just varies, we do a mix. Sometimes it's really nice to be able to go out and eat with just my husband and it wouldn't even really matter which restaurant it was, just to, you know, have a moment of peace and quiet without little ones at the table. Yes. Yes. So, uh, I guess I guess actually on those, those times, uh, we even, there are times I even say, oh, please don't sit us next to a table with other children, Well, this is our night out. So but, uh, anyway, where do you like to eat? Uh, well, uh, we don't have any children so, uh, we tend to, like to try all sorts of different things. And, uh, we're very attracted to exotic food. Uh-huh. And, uh, we like Indian food, and Thai cuisine and, uh, sort of gourmet Mexican and, uh, things like that, as well as Tex-Mex and Italian and, uh, Chinese and things, and, and things of that sort. Now, yes, of course, we like to occasionally go out and get down and dirty with barbecue or hamburgers or something like that, too. Right.
And, uh, we probably go out one to two times a week. Right. And, uh, uh, we're pretty much regulars at an Italian, local Italian restaurant. Oh, which one do you like? Momo's. Oh, okay. Well, it's been a long time since we've been in there but, uh, but it's good. There's an Italian restaurant over, over by the mall, over by, uh, Plano Parkway there, Uh-huh. Oh, is it Campari's or something? I've heard about it, I haven't been in there. Well, it's good. I haven't, my husband had been in there several times and we went in there, actually we went in there for lunch one day. Uh-huh. And, uh, their pastas were great. that's one of the things, a good pasta means a lot to me. I, I like different kinds of food.
So, when we go out, I'm always looking for something other than the standard menu, even if, it's a Mexican Restaurant, like something other than, uh, you know the standard tacos, enchiladas, tamales and fajitas now. You're brave Yes, yes and once in a while things backfire. I mean, we've gone for Romanian food and Lebanese food, and things like that Oh, God. And I'm not fond of some of those things but we'll try, we'll try anything. Right. Ethiopian, we've had Ethiopian. And, uh, not in Plano of course No, I don't think so But, we really, we really do enjoy going out and uh, and, um, I'm pretty adventurous in cooking, too, which also occasionally backfires. Oh, well. Even though traditional it can backfire. Yeah. I think we're supposed to say what will bring us back to a restaurant or, or what attracts us to a restaurant. How do you usually find a, a new restaurant? Uh, well my husband's kind of the he, he's the ethnic fan.
So he's, I don't know. You know what, we read, we read the, uh, D MAGAZINE Uh-huh. So do we. we, we check that and, uh, the Friday section in the newspaper the pull out section there. Uh-huh. They often do ratings of restaurants, so Right. uh, we've, uh, we've usually, we often save those and ventured out on, from there, uh, just for something that had a high rating. Uh-huh. We have found, uh, a number of restaurants either through D and the, Friday paper and sometimes the, the OBSERVER. Which my husband usually picks up. And also through coupons. Okay. When a new restaurant opens up, they usually send out coupons. That's, That's right. And you know, when they say, you know, buy one get one free. It's hard to resist, so we'll go in. And very often we'll, find a place that we like and we'll stick with it
once they, give, they no longer give coupons. We'll, we'll, uh, we'll stay there. Oh good. Oh, good. But we've found probably half of our sort of regular restaurants through coupons, and the other half through the, through the newspaper reviews. Oh. Oh, yeah. We, I guess we, we use the coupons, too. That's true. That's true. I mean it's wonderful, particularly if you have more than two people and you've got say four or something like that. It's very expensive to go out to eat. Oh right. Right. So, yeah that, that is really one of our, it's almost a hobby with us. Well I think that it's just, that's sometimes I think going out to eat it's, it's sort of a recreation. Yes. So, uh, just a, just a change of pace from, uh, eating at home. Yes. So, uh anyway. I guess, uh, as far as, as far as service when we go out gosh, it's nice, it's nice to have someone come and wait the table. And clear the table and,
Yeah. Uh-huh. Oh, absolutely. And do the dishes Yeah, and do the dishes. And, uh, actually it's kind of nice to, you know, I always, uh, a waitress or waiter that waits the table, it's nice that they're attentive but it's not nice when they're too attentive. Oh, yes. So, uh, we've had experience with that, too. So, my sister, who also lives here in Dallas, uh, tends to, uh, chat with waiters and waitresses and become their best friends during the course of dinner, which drives me absolutely batty. Oh, yeah. Well, how we but , it may, it may help their tip, may not, huh. What's your favorite restaurant? Gosh, I guess just in Plano, I, Plano I like to go to Souper Salads.
Uh-huh. Uh, Chili's, Chili's is always fine. Sure. I guess if we go to Dallas, into Dallas, we like, uh, the Routh, is it Routh Street Cafe. You know, we've never been there. Well well, you would like it. And that's supposed to be wonderful. Um. You'd like it especially it you're adventuresome. Uh-huh. It just, we've, we've taken people there several times and, uh, they have a good, they have a good choice of things that are very different sounding. I guess, it's, whether you call it Southwestern but, uh, oh we had venison venison chili one time. Which was absolutely wonderful. Ooh. And then I guess it must be seasonal and we've been back, oh, I guess it's in the winter season well they've never had it when we've been back, Uh-huh.
so. But, uh, well you ought to try that. It's, it's, it's very good. I would probably like that. One or two times in my life I've ever had venison, I've loved it. But, you know, just, it's just not, I don't know people who hunt so uh No. That's, that's supposed to be a wonderful place. uh, uh, uh, here in Plano, well, we tend to go to Momo's a, fairly often. And, uh, sometimes we'll go, you know, we, we also go to Chili's and, uh, Colter's Bar B Q, and, and uh, we go to, there is a little Thai place that's over on Park that, we go to. My husband particularly likes that. We go into Dallas, a lot and, because we're both were from the Richardson, North Dallas area, up until fairly recently. And, uh, we'll go down to, uh, Blue Mesa Grill, Mexican food, and Oh, that's good. Yes,
I've been there. Okay, why don't you start so you probably have a job you need to get to pretty soon. I'm already on my job Oh, you are, so, you, you reached me at my job. Oh, wonderful, well how do you dress for work? My, my dress for work, uh, most of the time is, uh, rather comfortable and casual uh, usually, uh, slacks and a soft colored shirt. Uh-huh. The, um, thing that, that distinguishes me a lot of the time when I have to dress real professionally for a meeting or something is I wear a clerical collar and a suit and, uh, all of that sort of thing, Uh-huh. but when I don't need to dress up for a, a meeting or a service of some sort, I don't. Uh-huh. So you're in a church there? Yes. Uh-huh. Well, I'm working, this is my first morning to work down at our little church preschool, and they've told me to wear just something terribly comfortable because these are two year olds,
and they have a lot of, uh, they have BIBLE lessons and they have all the things during the morning, but they still have snack time and play time, so, I'm going to be dressing just in casual slacks and T-shirts, probably not blue jeans, but little bit short of that, just, just tennis shoes and play clothes. Well, around there you can probably wear, uh, T-shirts and other things, but around here, at this time of the year we are into sweaters and, uh, coats. Yeah. I'm envious Well, it's a beautiful day here, and it's in the sixties, but we still have a lot of hot afternoons, it's supposed to be eighty-five today, so you'll still see people, it, it's kind of an in between change, that they're in their play clothes, I mean, they're in their summer clothes during the afternoons, because you just can't stand the sweaters, but in the mornings people are dressing for work in their sweaters because they just want it to be fall so badly Today, today we, we wear coats and as the day, uh, warms up, we may go to light jackets, Did you? but I don't think there's an escape from light jackets. I understand.
The wind will take away a lot of body heat. Well, so are the people around you, um, dressing similar to you? Very similar. Uh-huh, so you don't have to, you don't have to buy the lot of the wardrobe that some of the people in banking and that kind of thing do. No, I'm not stuck with that kind of a, uh, situation. Well, that's good. That's good. As I say, unless it happens to be, now yesterday I had to dress up, and and, uh, be more formal because I had a, a formal meeting at noon time, Uh-huh. but then I can go home later in the day and, and be a little more casual Well that's wonderful and then if I have a, a meeting of people that I know, I can be very casual in the evening. Well, my husband has to take the bus into Dallas, and doesn't return all day, so he has to dress, and he just really hates it, they have the long sleeve shirts and the whole tie and the whole suit, and even when his job is not going to be with people all day long, he said it's just part of the uniform and the expected image that they have to dress.
Yeah, that's, around here in a lot of places that's the way it is Uh-huh. I mean, there, there are expected, uh, dress codes Uh-huh. and the people need to follow that. I think, uh, years ago, I used to be far more, uh, committed to the idea of, of a dress code Uh-huh. but I've relaxed a lot more as I've gotten older and become more comfortable with myself. Well, I think that's, I think that's great. I think that's good. It's taken a long time to break away, from, from that I understand. but now that I've broken away from it, I'm, I'm glad I have. Well, another interesting thing on the our, our end here is how, even in my forties, how much younger I dress than my mother would have in her forties, and I will run around to the store in things, in slacks and tennis shoes, and she, You mean you don't need to wear little old house dresses any more? Right, and pearls,
and she would not have even probably owned a pair of tennis shoes after she got out of high school, so, uh, she tells me I dress young, but that's okay That's a good idea, that's a good idea. Well, there's not a lot more I can think of to discuss on clothing. No, there, you know, I guess this is what you call a natural end Yeah, what kind, what kind of shoes do they wear down there? Well, we wear, of course, like I said, if my husband's going downtown, he's got the whole, uh, you know, the dress men's dress shoes Uh-huh. but for as out here, just anything that the moms, we all kind of have our own little dress code of just either tennis shoes or little loafers and, and, uh, tights, and things that feel comfortable to us around our kids. We, we can wear pretty much that, although, um, tennis shoes are kind of out in, in almost every, every situation unless you want to look like a gook Yeah, I'm sure they are there. Yeah,

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