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Ooh, this is a beneficial call.
I like this
Yeah,
I liked your idea too, there.
Yeah,
but that one's an easy one.
It's like, just put in,
a friend of mine makes it where she goes ahead and seasons up the, with the soup and the wine
Uh-huh.
put in garlic and onion powder or chopped onions if you want to do that, you kno... |
You know what,
I watched a little bit of, uh, of the Bulls game
and I, uh, had to leave.
Uh, in fact I, I think the Bulls were ahead when I, uh, when I left.
Who won the game?
They won in a squeaker.
They won by they won by two points.
Is that right?
Uh, they were behind as they headed into each quarter
and then they c... |
they looked real good
and,
They, they do,
and they, you know,
I think by, uh, by relieving some of the pressure off of, uh, of, uh, uh,
Michael Jordan really helped them out.
You know, he doesn't have, they don't have to rely on him to score you know, thirty or forty points at every at every game
Right.
so,
Yeah,
well... |
Yeah,
now, I don't, uh, I haven't kept up with what was going on with, uh, with the,
Well, they traded away, uh, Mitch Richmond,
or is it Tim Hardaway.
One of the two, uh, who, along with, uh, Chris Mullen was, you know,
though three were three of the best in the N B A,
and and, they made a heck of a threesome
Uh-huh.
... |
in the east, I don't know, uh,
is it Boston in, uh, first place?
Uh, I think Boston's in first.
Uh, I, you know, I haven't kept up with any of the other, uh, teams.
I'm so depressed with the Dallas Mavericks, you know.
Boy,
they've had a hard time.
They said they've lost a lot of squeakers.
Oh, man!
That,
well, yeah,
... |
and Houston pulls for, for the Rockets.
So there isn't much crossover, huh,
There really,
I mean, not a whole lot. You know,
I mean, you find them, they're, find them be, to be pretty loyal, uh, in, with the local teams.
Yeah.
Uh, you know, it's kind of, I guess it's kind of like, uh, there in the Bay area, you know, y... |
Uh, he does a lot of local stuff there in San Antonio
and they, I mean, they have got a great club. You know.
They've done a good job.
I mean, of course, drafting a franchise like him certainly,
Yeah
Yeah
that always makes a big difference.
Yeah,
I mean, that's
So,
I think the way it, uh, I think that's the way it work... |
Once he left, you know, it's, it's just not the same, uh, it's not the same team.
There's not the leadership there that they used to rely on him for.
Well, I think you're right
and I think Isaiah Thomas would fit in Detroit
and I think those things do make a difference
and there are marquee players.
And I think I thin... |
and low polluting fuels are being experimented with Ethanol and other types of fuels.
Yeah,
one of the things they asked me to ask you was where you thought the major source was coming from? Or sources.
I, you know, I assume, that the major sources are cars and factories.
That's what, I would think.
But I, I don't ... |
Yeah,
the smokestacks or the exhaust pipes.
Yeah.
Um, I guess there's been a lot of pressure to, um, do away with the C F C's in these spray bottles which, has been a real problem.
Right.
Yeah,
that is, well that's destroying the ozone, isn't it?
Again I, that's what I hear
and, and there's this big debate apparently ... |
In Los Angeles they're apparently going to,
they've passed laws that, for habit, do you think this could possibly be prohibit? nothing elseseems to make any sense?? for example, people using, uh, barbecues *listen for habit prohibit gasoline lawn mowers, um,
Uh-huh.
and it's really bad in places like Los Angeles,
and, ... |
and there's just a brown fog here
and we don't even have any mountains that are, holding it in.
Yeah.
But they also said that more dense the population and the more we crowd together, the worse it gets.
Well that makes a lot of sense.
I mean I, I hadn't thought about it that way
but it, it,
You don't have to have moun... |
and I think it's going to be real interesting and particularly in light of what is obviously going to be a big structural change in the economy, uh, in this country, uh, whether people are willing to get out of their cars,
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
and in this country, uh, the, the solution that, that people seem to think work ar... |
Uh, yeah
we do.
We, uh, uh,
basically there's the, you know, the expenses that are fixed during the month you know the ones that come every, every month
Uh-huh.
and we, uh, enter those into, uh, into a spread sheet
and, uh, whatever is left, uh, after that we, you know, we sit down and agree on kind of what, what sort ... |
and so that does help,
Yeah.
that helps a lot.
And then, uh, we don't have a lot extra for extra spending,
so it's pretty well ear marked.
Yeah.
All allocated out.
Yeah
Yeah.
Yeah.
Every penny is ear marked
but, uh it, we have found that works the best
and and so if we can just divide them up, all the major bills up.
... |
or,
Right.
Yeah,
we found that, uh, it's definitely helped, uh, get a handle on kind of the unnecessary expenses.
That's true.
We were, before we started doing that kind of a thing, we were, uh, spending, uh, money for things that, you know,
we kind of tended to eat out a bit more than we should have,
Uh-huh.
and it wa... |
Where does it go?
Yeah.
Uh
But,
and also we have found that if we write down,
and we did this.
We are not real consistent with this,
but we did it for about a month
and we wrote down everything that we bought when, you know, every pay check
Uh-huh.
and so we could see where every penny went
and it was really interestin... |
just stick to that,
uh-huh.
That is,
Yeah.
That that sounds like a really good idea.
So.
And it really helpful.
Uh, have you developed a savings plan or I R A s or anything like that yet?
We, we haven't.
We our our initial goal was just to retire debt, uh, completely retire debt for car payments and credit card uh, cre... |
so finally finally we are getting to that point too.
A student.
So, are you still going to school
or,
Yeah,
I am actually in the, in the
Kay.
Okay.
I guess we're talking about exercise, huh?
Yeah,
yeah.
Well first of all I, I have to ask you how, how old you are?
Oh, I am twenty-seven.
Twenty-seven,
okay.
Well, I am qu... |
What type of exercise do you do?
Well, I do, uh, jazzercise which is an aerobic, uh, program that,
Oh you do.
are you familiar with it?
Yes.
It's, uh, you know, a national company
and we have a jazzercise center here in Plano that has classes like all day long
so you can,
Are they different from aerobics
or is it the s... |
The minimum they want you to do is three times a week.
And this is a club
or, uh, do you belong to a group?
Well, it's really a
I mean it's called a center
and you buy as many classes as you want to at a time
and then you just go in whenever you can.
So, like I usually choose to go at nine thirty in the morning or a ni... |
so, uh, there aren't many people, you know, that want to do that.
Oh
Most of the people that are in the classes are young mothers. You know, with with children between the ages,
Oh yeah
young mothers or,
Young mothers.
You know, young women, with small children are the ones that I find.
Uh-huh.
Well, what do you do?
Uh... |
Do you have friends that play with you
or just,
No,
I just shoot around by myself.
Yeah.
And, uh, that's about it.
I use to play soccer a lot in high school,
but when I graduated I haven't done much.
I don't have a problem.
I know I have to do more aerobics,
but I don't have a problem with weight.
I could eat all day a... |
You do it
but I also watch what I eat. You know,
Uh-huh.
but you'll come,
being twenty-seven, you don't really have to worry about your heart rate and that yet
Yeah
and I
but as you get older you will.
well everyone's told me my waist line is going to expand one of these days,
but I don't know
Well, it might not
Mine,
... |
But you don't play any other sports but basketball?
Uh, basketball,
volleyball, uh,
too bad it's not really heavy as far as recreation or hobby,
I do that.
But, do you ski?
Being in Utah, I was wondering if you ski.
Uh, I use to,
but it got too expensive,
so.
Oh did it really?
Yeah.
Cause I know that skiing in Utah is,... |
but I have friends that go to Utah all the time
and they think it's really
Oh they come up here.
and they ski.
I guess there's a place where you can ski,
well is it Tahoe? Where you ski from,
no
that's Nevada to California I guess.
That's in Nevada.
Uh-huh.
Yeah,
I am thinking about where you can ski over the state li... |
I think it's called Heavenly.
Huh. I've never heard of that one.
You've never heard of that?
Huh-uh.
Well, maybe it isn't in Utah.
But they said they've skied Heavenly
and it sounded like, you know, that they skied really well, and when they are actually talking about a place.
It's kind of funny.
Do they exercise much ... |
Yeah.
In your legs and,
My legs really, really ache.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, that's,
I am using muscles that I have never used before.
Well,
and it's strange that you can do, like I did aerobics, you know, all the time
and then I went horseback riding
and still I was so sore
and I couldn't get over,
Actually, to tell you the ... |
but you can,
I can't remember which.
I was on a jury trial last year
only I got kicked out as, uh, the last selection that the, uh, defense got.
Um. Yeah,
it seems to me I'm always challenged peremptorily also when I go to these things.
I think I have a severe demeanor or something.
Um.
Uh,
That, uh,
But, typically, yo... |
Um.
So, that's why the defense is there picking through them, whereas at the same time, the, uh, the prosecutor sitting there picking through them because he wants somebody who will give him, uh, a guilty verdict if the facts warrant.
Uh-huh.
So, uh, I think the jury selection process is pretty neat,
but I don't think ... |
Well, preceding criminal record, according to the judicial process has nothing to do with the current crime.
But when it comes to, uh, sentencing for punishment, of course, if the person's never done anything bad before, according to the judicial system, then they're going to lean towards a slightly more lenient side,
... |
you give them the option of working off their time doing civil service sort of things.
What about, uh, white collar crimes like, uh, theft of trade secrets.
I think those ought to be punished a whole lot worse than they are.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Like what?
Well, uh, say, embezzlement, right.
You get a guy down the street ... |
and, you know, the other two guys sat in the car
That's, that's bad .
Uh-huh.
and they didn't get beat up. You know.
No.
It ,
Rodney got beat up because he, he, you know, he you know, he involved himself in some sub, self-destructive behavior.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, uh, just like the burning and looting is self-destruct.
Uh... |
they're only going to suffer.
They, they've defeated themselves with, with their looting and violence.
Uh, I understand why they were upset by the verdict just because even those of us that aren't black or, uh, don't live there or whatever, we all saw the same thing on the, on the tape
and, uh,
Well everybody is saying... |
Those deaths.
Uh-huh.
Is it a looter that got shot by a store owner?
I, you know,
no tears.
Or just a an innocent bystander or somebody got actually beat to death or what.
Yeah.
And and so I, but I, I suspect a number of them.
Um.
You know, you, you see film of people being pulled out of a car and shot, you know, in, ... |
I'm inside the beltway.
Oh.
You know how capital gang, they always say well inside the beltway, they think thus
and so and I say well wait a minute,
I'm inside the beltway
and I don't think like that.
Uh-huh.
I'm a government employee.
Oh.
In what, uh, section of the government do you work?
I'm with the F B I.
Oh
Oh, t... |
Oh, I see
And so that's, that's why, uh, uh, that's why I'm religiously getting on the phone because I have a unique, you know, I have a unique situation here in that if I don't participate,
Uh, around here we have a program where, uh, we, we put out the, the, we separate the bottles and the cans and the plastic stuff ... |
Not only have I come to Washington but, uh, I find it very amusing that, uh, the thing that was just instituted here is very similar.
That is we also have blue bins.
We also separate newspapers from all of the other stuff which goes into the bin and gets separated in the truck and, uh, landfill space is, in deed, the d... |
and, again, this is driven by all of the documentation and, uh, E S and H, uh, uh, considerations that, uh, people are, uh, worrying about, I think, much more than they should.
Actually I've been involved in recycling for long before it became fashionable.
Back when I was in graduate school, I did all of the recycling... |
Huh.
I'm,
and what I like to do is I like to stretch out
and I like to run, uh,
I'm, I like to run, get my heartbeat up.
I like to run about, oh, about two, two and a half miles.
And then I like to work out on, uh, on the, uh, the Bailey Life Cycle machines up here at the, at the Holiday Spa.
And, and I, I think that, ... |
I want, I always say that I need to get start running
and I'm going to try and do that this summer.
Because I never have time.
I, I always put it off.
By the time I get back from classes it's late at night
and I don't feel like going back over to the gym and running on the track or whatever.
Because I'm, I'm getting a ... |
Yeah.
And so, so I got a real problem in that regard.
Uh, it,
do,
you obviously are, are not an exercise buff or else you'd be out there doing it.
Yeah.
I mean, I do it, I guess,
I'm going to do it, uh, because I want to get in shape.
I'm not, it's not something I really enjoy all that much that, I'll, I'll probably,
I... |
I need to lose fifty pounds, you know.
Right.
I need to lose at least twenty, you know.
But, uh, you know, it's, it's just, uh, I'm busy.
I'm doing a lot of traveling
and, uh, it, it creates a problem, uh, you know, when you're on the road.
What sort of, uh, uh, what other programs other than say running?
Have you, ha... |
Oh. Okay.
So you're, you're down, you're downtown.
Yeah.
I'm at, I'm at, I go to George Washington University.
Okay.
Yeah.
You're down there on, you know, twentieth and eighteenth and F G.
Yeah.
It's , uh, Plaza.
Oh.
Well, I'd, uh,
well there's a, there's a Holiday Spa down there on, on K street, I think. Something li... |
Yeah.
And, you know, and I'm, I know I'm going to get, I know it's going to bite me in the ass
and so I, I really don't want to, want to, uh, you know, back off on it.
Yeah.
It's something,
I think, uh, I'm young,
I should get started getting into shape.
I don't want to,
I want,
I mean at one point it's going to be too... |
And, uh, for me that's mostly newspaper and radio,
I almost never watch television, as a matter of course
so, I don't get news from television,
except during the war, I watched a lot of C N N because it was so good.
Uh-huh.
Well, why was C N N the only,
of course I think, Saddam Hussein only allowed C N N to broadcast ... |
Were they?
Uh-uh.
Yeah.
That's the only thing they broadcast
and like you I listened to radio on my job at work.
Uh-huh.
And all this week they have been having this, uh, a discussion about that is why, uh, why C N N was
well, I listen to a Christian radio station.
Uh-huh.
And they were saying that C N N is definitely ... |
and so it really made me question as to what, how do we know, you know, uh, if the news we're getting is any good.
So
Yeah,
I guess, the news just focuses on major events that probably, don't affect ninety-nine percent of the people who are right there when the news is being made.
Yeah.
Right,
right.
But, uh, I, I'm fr... |
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
So then, you wake up one morning
and you are in war with somebody
you don't even, even know about it.
Right.
So.
Well, what newspapers, uh, do you read in Dallas?
Uh, we have the DALLAS TIMES HERALD and the DALLAS MORNING NEWS,
but I don't, I don't read newspapers
Don't you?
Huh-uh.
How come?
Uh-h... |
I mean who would steal a newspaper?
You would be surprised.
Huh?
They just come by and pick them up even if it's just for the TV, you know uh, selections of the day.
I see.
I don't know.
It just wouldn't be there whenever I tried it.
Yeah.
So, you're right,
who would steal a newspaper?
in glass sound in But, they do.
Y... |
No,
I don't.
I work for North Carolina State University.
Huh.
But, uh, I know some people at T I,
and I have a couple of students who have graduated and gone to work for them.
Yeah.
So, I'm in the computer business.
Well, I,
boy, current events is not a good subject for me.
Well.
I don't keep up with it that often.
Let... |
it seems to me it says you are suppose to talk for three minutes,
but I think we've been talking for three minutes
and nobody has interrupted.
Yeah,
well I, I got into a conversation last night with a lady
and they interrupt at ten, minutes.
I see.
So if we've done our three minutes. Let's just let the conversation end... |
Uh, I, am quite positive on the things that I have seen happen recently relative to women in, both in society and in the work place,
uh, there's no doubt about the fact that when I was first graduated from college the impression was that a woman's career would consist of a childbearing years and perhaps a return to the... |
I have not, to be honest, had much experience, with children in that situation.
Yeah.
I, I guess one knows one's own storly
and I know, uh, in my children's case it was one where, uh, pretty much up until the older of two was in, uh, let's see, I guess basically starting junior high
and the younger was in fifth grade w... |
Oh, yeah.
Sort of rent-a-mom,
to be, you know, not to be crass about it, but, uh, uh, whether one might conceive, no pun intended, of the possibility that there might be a kind of a deliberate, uh, uh a professional mother, person. For instance, that,
Yeah.
That's strange.
A nanny, sort of?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
and I could,... |
never has.
Vision more women deliberately raising children either in surrogacy or, or as a professional nanny, nanny as you put it, uh.
Yeah.
Maybe we'll see a growth in that where someone makes a career out of, say, taking care of five or six children as opposed to day care.
Uh-huh,
uh-huh.
It would be a sort of day c... |
Right.
Uh, I have acquaintances of mine where I know that they are paying figures on, on the order of what I quoted to someone, because that's what the experience they want
and I would imagine if there are more of people like that with an opportunity that, that's a possibility of a change that we could see in the next ... |
and, uh,
What, what do you envision for the next twenty years as far as women in American society?
Uh, I think, I really don't have a vision
That's okay, too.
Yeah,
I, I, I think that they will be more in the work place because, uh, the door's open.
Uh-huh.
And, uh, it's just human nature to walk through an open door.
... |
Uh, and maybe that's a change we'll see.
Maybe, uh, the possibility of, of women, uh, who deliberately say, no,
we'll let the man will take care of the children perhaps, in the event of a separation or whatever.
Uh-huh.
Right.
So,
Well, I think we've done it
Well, I think we're about done.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Uh... |
Freshwater,
yeah,
I, I used to fish, uh, when I was real young, down in Galveston with my parents,
and I never really got into that too much, because you have to get in the boat really to do anything,
and I didn't know anybody who had a boat now,
so I don't fish too much in saltwater.
Uh-huh.
Most of my fishing has bee... |
but, uh, the ones I caught were never large enough to really do anything.
Do they have a limit on sharks,
I mean, is that like a, a sport fish,
can you actually catch those
and there's no limit.
Is there a limit?
I have no idea.
I know, I,
my home is in, uh, Pensacola, Florida
Uh-huh.
so, it's, they do a lot of shark f... |
I've never fly fished.
Have you fly fished?
Uh, no
I haven't.
I don't know that I could do that.
That looks awful tiring
I've tried it once,
Did you.
yes,
uh, a friend of mine
Didn't like it?
no.
I could never get the hang of it.
It looks complicated to me.
It's a rhythm or something
Uh-huh.
I usually ended snagging my... |
Almost got an owl once.
Did you
That would have been something.
But, uh.
So do you, do you fish mainly for trophies
or do you, do you eat what you fish.
Oh, no,
no,
no,
no.
I used, uh, when I was, uh, working in Florida, I used to do a lot of surf fishing mostly for relaxation
Uh-huh.
Right.
you know, there are people ... |
but, uh,
Really.
Oh, and occasionally we'd go out on a, you know, full day trip, you know, three or four other people and do either, again, bottom fishing or or for grouper
Right.
Right.
or, I used to catch you know, I've caught a few worthwhile snappers, red snappers and gray snappers and so forth.
That's nice.
What a... |
I was so excited.
And, uh, that's really about it.
Mostly just the lakes around here,
and I fish to take home and cook
I don't, I don't get too much joy out of just sitting and watching.
I get a little bit of relaxation from it,
but mainly I, um, I want to say I brought something home.
I want to say I did this,
I was o... |
or, you know, actually we were, uh, snapper fishing.
Everyone on the boat was catching snapper, snappers except guess who.
It had to be you.
I I,
Couldn't catch one to save your life. Huh.
That's right,
I would go from one side of the boat to the other,
and, uh, the, uh, the party boat captain could not understand, you... |
here in,
we're only just a few, not a few minutes, we're, you know, forty five minutes to an hour away from the eastern shore here in Maryland
Right.
and they do a lot of fishing there.
Of course what I used to like to do though is go snorkeling for scallops in some of the bays, or uh, or for oysters.
Oh, yeah,
That wo... |
we'll try to catch some crab.
So I got my chicken and all my little net and everything,
and something,
I had a rock to weight it down,
something grabs and just runs with it.
And of course there's no hook,
so it can't be a fish.
Uh-huh.
I'm sure it's not a fish,
right.
And crab, they don't bite like that,
they don't jus... |
Um.
They say it's a dog fish, from everything I've described,
it was brown with these little white dots
Uh-huh.
and it made a loud, almost a croaking noise like a croaker does
Uh-huh.
it, it was the strangest thing.
Oh, I'll never get over that.
To this day I don't want to get in the water, anywhere around salt water b... |
and I mean, and they come in all you know,
I've, I've caught them from, you know, three or four inches long up to, uh,
Uh-huh.
I guess the largest one I ever caught was probably eight or ten inches long,
but just huge, ugly things just terrible.
Huh.
Can you eat them?
No,
no.
Ooh.
I, I don't think I'd want to even if y... |
and scared me to death.
Oh.
I had never seen anything,
and then I was fished for another half hour or forty-five minutes, caught a few white fish and so forth,
and then I felt something relatively heavy,
and I thought, oh, really, here, I'm really going to get one.
And I,
Okay, um,
let's see.
How do you feel about cred... |
Right.
Wow.
uh, at least that's one number for this range of numbers I have, I have heard.
Right.
Do you use them frequently
or,
Well, we, uh, me and my wife, when, when we have like extra money that we know we're going to have, and we can put it in our budget, yeah, we'll, we'll use it.
But like last year, I think we ... |
But, we use it the same way,
and, uh,
I find the one I use mostly, uh,
aside from the American Express, I do use my Sears card.
Uh-huh.
But, uh, I try, as with the American Express, I try to pay it, you know, as it comes in.
Right.
Right.
So, uh,
It's, it's not uncommon for us to have paid it before we even get the bil... |
Yeah.
Sometimes, you know, sometimes I would go over,
but it wouldn't, you know, it wouldn't hit me in a big, in a big way because I knew that, uh, I would have it covered in that respect.
Right.
Right.
That's good.
I've, I don't think we've gone that far to pay it in you know, in advance before we spend it,
but, I gue... |
So the
Wow
So, I got caught a little short in that regard,
Wow.
but, uh uh, I, I was anticipating, you know, my room would cost, uh, let's say
Yeah.
if it were, say sixty or seventy francs a night that would mean it would be about ten dollars or so, or maybe twenty
Right.
maybe it would be more than that.
It was more t... |
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah
especially,
That was the only time I really got caught short.
And I, But as I said, most, most of all I try not to use them, uh, to any, you know, lavishly, in that regard.
Yeah.
Yeah,
well that's good.
Well, from where are you calling?
Oh, from the Dallas area.
So you're from
okay,
I'm from Maryland.... |
Well, really.
Yes.
Um. I wonder how T I got G T E involved.
Well, I know Jack Godfrey.
Oh, okay.
I know him very well.
I've known Jack for a long time,
and I'm also in the speech business.
Oh, okay.
So, when I heard that Jack was going to do this, I called him and asked for an application where I could participate in t... |
Yeah,
uh. Yes,
I, I've been doing it for twenty some odd years.
Wow.
And so, uh, I was very much interested, uh, in getting involved in, uh, switchboard.
Yeah.
So, uh, you work for T I?
Right.
I work in .
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I guess we're supposed to do this part of it before we started the recording
Yeah
I think we talk... |
Well, you too.
It's been pleasant talking to you.
Same here.
Take care.
Good night.
Bye.
Well, what would you have at a dinner party?
Well, uh, lately, since I have children I've cut down on having dinner parties
Uh-huh.
but when I do I try to keep it pretty simple on things that I can prepare ahead of time
uh, I have ... |
Sure.
But if it was informal, my first choice would be crawfish.
Oh, really.
Well, I guess being from that part of the country.
Because, I mean, crawfish, everybody over here likes crawfish
but you know, I, I wouldn't have to worry about satisfying my guest.
Uh-huh.
But if it was a formal dinner party I would probably ... |
Uh-huh.
but,
Don't buy them that way
Right.
Because if, if they are dead for too long,
you can always tell whenever they're cooked if they've been dead for a long time because their tail straightens out.
Uh-huh.
And you're not supposed to eat those because they're bad for you.
Okay.
Well, I'll remember that.
Yeah,
so i... |
but there's, uh, they're a pain to peel for some people.
Once you get used to it they're real easy
but, um, you know, if you have nails or anything you can plan on those being shot.
Huh. When you were, um, when you serve it do you shell them and then serve em too?
I think for a dinner party
I, I don't know
it depends.
... |
And usually you use those like for frying or to put in salads or to um You know make a sauce with or something like that
Um-hum
But you can go ahead and buy 'em cooked and shelled
and they're more expensive of course
but
Does it taste a lot like shrimp
Um Yeah
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Just um The crawfish I mean it just has a tas... |
but in our family I am the one who who cooks
And I I really enjoy it
it's gotten a little more difficult with kids
But I really do enjoy cooking
And we um we have them over for dinner back and forth quite a lot
Uh-huh
And before I had my second child we sort of had a contest going where you know he would cook and then ... |
and then we got into different um themes you know um whether it would be ethnic food Or um sometimes it would be um oh Oh I don't know maybe an outdoor theme or uh elegant theme or you know
Uh huh
It was a lot of fun
Sometimes it might be the candlelight
and sometimes it might be the picnic out back or something
That's... |
but that's only because my mom just started working
so she's tired when she comes home in the afternoon
so I try to have things cooked for her
but uh um I usually try to stay out of kitchen
Oh that's nice
I don't know
not one of my favorite hobbies
It can it can be fun I if you have the time
But you know a lot of times... |
I don't know
I would I would be interested in getting that recipe for you if you have it around
Yeah
it's um it's in the other room
I don't know if we have enough time for it
Oh
it's real easy
one of the unique things in this it's like a pound of ground beef some bread crumbs um an egg um whatever seasonings
you can ju... |
Oh
So it's not a it's not a thick rich type of a sauce
it's more of a
when you use corn starch in in gravy like you know when you have um Chinese food
Um-hum
And it gives it a bit of a different consistency
Well um how long do you cook the meatballs
The meatballs you just um after you form them fry them in a pan until ... |
That sounds great
Especially I mean the fact that you can prepare the meatballs so so far in advance
Right.
I mean like if if you are having a dinner party on Wednesday night you could do it on a weekend
And then freeze them
Sure
That would be great
I think I'm going to have to keep that in mind for my future because I... |
so I'm going to have You know my whole job's going to be based on my clients 'n stuff like that
so I'm going to have lots of dinner parties
Sure.
And have to take 'em out to eat
Right now I'm taking a class on ettiquesy * Did she really say "ettiquesy"??
and all the little bitty things that I didn't even know
Oh
really... |
I'm sure my husband will be surprised, 'cause we were talking about them the other day before
Okay,
so which, uh, what basketball teams are you interested in?
Well, I guess I'm a big Laker, L A Laker fan, when it comes to pros.
Uh-huh.
Uh, the college ranks, um, I guess I really,
of course I try to follow my alma mater... |
the year that Danny Aines was there.
Uh-huh.
That was about five, six years ago by now.
Huh.
So, they made it to the sweet sixteen, once or twice, in their history,
Um.
That's not too bad.
and that's,
and they usually lose in the first round.
Uh-huh.
How about you?
Well, I'm, uh, originally from the Saint Louis area,
s... |
the pro,
Um, as far as college teams, uh, I know it's really easy to say,
but I've been pulling for, uh, Duke for about four years now
so, uh, so, I finally am feeling better about myself as far as college teams. Although, I've, I've really, you know,
Is that right?
again being from Saint Louis, I pull for Missouri.
Uh... |
right.
Of course, I wasn't really,
I mean, I, I,
U N L V kind of gave me the impression of being a, uh, uh, oh, I don't know, a macho team, you know,
they just didn't seem, they seemed to think they were better than everybody else
and, and maybe they were,
but, um, I was real happy to see them get knocked off.
So,
Yeah... |
And that, uh, they didn't, couldn't,
aren't they more of a running gun team ?
U N L V,
yeah,
they, they play the pro style, is, what I've always called it.
Right.
And, uh,
Yeah,
fast breaks and things and,
yeah,
the fast breaks and, and,
They shut all that down and made them play half court it seemed
and,
Right.
And, u... |
and they, they've not had to do that all year
and, uh,
Right,
right.
They didn't have, they didn't have to go through some tough games during the year
and that, and that, so that's a terrible time to have to deal with that, right in, when it, when it counts so much.
That's right.
I mean Duke's schedule was, was so much... |
Yeah.
And, uh, they've got Perkins,
Yeah.
but I don't think he's really been a super star for them.
No.
Well, he's, uh,
I don't,
I,
he, he to me is not a center,
he's more of a, a real tall forward
Yeah.
Right,
right.
Uh,
So,
I think Magic does a,
They'll make it, you know,
it, it's going to be a war between, uh, betwe... |
That sure is.
It,
It's going to be a great series.
I think that's going to be one of those that's, uh, that's won by the home team, you know,
Yeah.
whoever has home court advantage is going to win that one I think.
One of those two will probably be, um, in there,
um, let me see,
where does Detroit fit in?
Detroit's in ... |
but,
Oh, yeah.
so does Detroit, I mean, so does Chicago. So all three of them do, with Larry Bird back, uh,
Oh, yeah.
you can never count the Celtics out when Larry Bird's, starting to click on all cylinders.
That's true.
Uh-huh.
They say he's starting to do, starting to play,
He's, yeah but he's been, yeah, but he's ... |
Yeah.
Oh, any dark horses I, uh, you know,
Well, the dark horses,
San Antonio, San Antonio is the dark horse that could, could really flip in there, I think.
Yeah
that's,
Yeah.
Well, anybody who has David Robinson, has got to have a chance anyway.
Yeah.
He's got to be pretty much, you know,
I use to say Akimo Lija was... |
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