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I just got my catalog this morning and was looking through it. Oh, with the Santa Claus on the cover. Uh-huh. Yes, I've already ordered from that one, but we will probably be going up at Thanksgiving this year, so. Oh, do you live, where do you, what state are you in? Texas. Oh, you're in Texas. Yes, I'm in the Dallas area. In Plano. So am I. I'm in Garland. Uh so that's not too far. Yeah. I talked to somebody from Wisconsin or something the other day. Oh. Yeah,
so I guess they get people from all over. Yes. Yeah, driving for Thanksgiving, that's going to be quite a drive for, Well it was when we left last year. We left on the eighteenth, right before that big snow storm hit Colorado Uh-huh. and we pulled in just as it hit. Wow. So, how do you go? Do you go up through the Raton Pass, when you go up there? Uh, no, oh, well, wait a minute, yeah, we do, we do. That's on like Route two eighty-seven or something like that. Yeah, uh-huh,
and then we go straight up through Trinidad and straight up I Twenty-five from there. Okay. Okay, we, uh, went a different way when we went last Christmas because of bad weather and because we were pulling a little U Haul trailer, because we had to take our dog in the car, there was no room for luggage. So, we went all interstate. We went up, um, through Oklahoma City and then up through, uh, Kansas, and then turned left and went in on I Seventy Uh-huh. Oh. and it wound up only taking us about an extra hour. It was a little more mile wise Uh-huh. but because you could go sixty-five miles an hour on the, All set. Uh-huh. Actually I'm in Plano, too That's okay. I say Dallas area when I'm talking to people elsewhere. That's okay, it's more, uh, concentrated, so they know where you are.
Yeah. Uh, anyway, I know here in, here in Plano some of the things that we do are, um, Kroger and some of the other stores, too, have said, If you bring your bags back to, to the store to recycle, then they'll pay you a certain amount of money, and that's one thing that started in the community. They actually pay you money for that? Uh-huh. Um, um, Brookshires up in uh, Allen, uh, you bring your bags back, you know, they, uh, the plastic bags back or the paper bags, you put them in the receptacles there, but I didn't realize some people are actually paying you for that. Um. Uh-huh, yeah, I know Kroger will do it, and I think Albertson's does it sometimes, I'm not sure. Um, and, and yet, I know that, uh, some of the stores will actually help the community, not pay you the money back, but will pay the, the, uh, community, like through the schools or things like that. Uh-huh. Interesting. So, um, that's always helpful, and I know that we we have the, the can, the can, different can banks around the city that you can go to and do that. Right. Um, one of the ways,
I don't know, uh, if this would be helpful. It said on the, the computer, what do I think would be helpful. And I don't know if it would be helpful or not, but I know on Monday, the, the garbage men pick up like just, um, any limbs or any extra trash that you might have, Right. And that might be an extra day to put out things that might be recycled if we had a, a certain colored can to put them in or something in the city to put, like either glass or newspapers or whatever. Yeah, I think they already do that out East. Um, they have to, it's a little bit more difficult, because people have to remember, Okay, today's glass okay tomorrow's plastic, and all that Yeah. Yeah. but I think that's the way we need to go. It's, uh, it's pretty bad. All these years we've been, especially in this country, all the, uh, the plastic and the paper and everything, we just used to throw out. Yeah, uh, I know getting a newspaper everyday, I know I could just, you know, do that because I have to pick it up, Uh-huh. and it just goes out with our trash, and I guess I'm not as, um, recycling minded as I should be
but that goes out with the trash, and it really could be recycled. Yeah, about six months ago I started Did you? yeah, and, uh so what I do is, uh, Tell me. it's not bad, you just have to have a place to keep everything, but, uh, it, you'll be amazed if you ever start doing it. Just put your paper in the same place every day, and it'll start stacking up. Take your glass, um, you know, pickle jars, or, or whatever, uh, liquid jars, you know, just rinse them out a little bit and put them all in a place, and, uh plastics, Don't you have to take like labels off of those jars? No, from what I understand, uh, you can leave the labels on, um, although I rip, rip them off.
Yeah. I don't, I don't scrub them or anything, I just tear them off Take them off, yeah. throw the lids and everything out, but, uh, put all the glass in one place, and plastics, like milk jugs, uh, orange juice jugs, things like that. Soda, both liter sodas Yes can you do that. those also. Okay. Um, and then, of course, uh, cans, coke cans, whatever. Right, right. But, uh, I haven't been down to the recycling center yet to find out exactly what they need or what they take, and all that, I've just read a lot about it, and I'm keeping these big piles of it right now I going to try to dump it out this weekend in fact.
But, uh, you'd be amazed how quickly it all stacks up. There's a lot that we throw out. I, I know with our family that we could really be helpful if we could find a way to just, um, get it into different categories like that, and I, I don't know what it would take to, to get my children to start working on it. Uh-huh. I have two older ones that probably would go along with the, if I had it arranged so that it wasn't a big project, you know. It's, yeah, it's not a big deal. You get used to it. One, let me tell you one interesting thing Okay, when I went back to the store, and I said, Hey, um, I understand you all are taking these bags back, uh, you know, what do you do with them. And they told me, they look through them all and throw out the ones that don't belong there and then, you know, go and recycle the rest. And I said, What do you mean the ones that don't belong there? Yeah. And they said, Well, people come in and put anything in the receptacles. And what I found out is, if you look at the bottom of those bags, Kroger or whatever the plastic ones, they've got numbers on them. Uh-huh. Oh. Yeah,
and if it's got the little recycle symbol and inside it it's got a number, like bags from Drug Emporium have a ... Hello. Hello. Hello, Hello, Hi. Boy it took forever to find somebody. Oh, well I'm glad you found me. Good, well I'm, my name's Gail, and I guess we have to, talk about credit cards. Yes. My name is Carolyn. Okay, well, if you're ready, then uh, Okay. I'll just let you start, Okay, I'll press one
Okay, well, I'm not, this is kind of an interesting subject to come up for me, because credit cards are my downfall. I just find it so easy to, to charge something when I don't have the money to pay for it, and I'm really trying to get out of that habit. So. I think they're kind of dangerous. I think they are, too. And, unfortunately, um, we use ours in, we don't use them all the time, but we use them like at Christmas time, and then it seems like it takes all year to pay them off when you use them like that Uh-huh. But, um, I would love to just take some scissors and cut them in half. Yeah, me too. I think sometimes when you look at the interest that you're paying on them, um, that's what gets to be the really scary part, you know, if you think, when it comes around to income tax time, and you look at how much money you paid out just in interest all year, you could really get a lot more stuff if you were just able to pay outright for it. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Seems just like our society is so, um, pushes so hard for, you can have it, you know, and then no interest, no payments for a year, and stuff like this, they're really trying to get you into that situation, because they know they've really got you then, so. all I know is some of my credit cards, like, um, we have a Sears one, and we always get a maintenance agreement every year Uh-huh. and it's just easier to say, you know, just put that on my credit card. Well that's probably four or five hundred dollars, you know, that goes on at that point Uh-huh. and then it seems like takes forever to pay that off. It's funny, that we've got a Sears card, and we bought a washer and dryer on it, four years ago, and we still owe. I mean, I, I think like half the amount that they cost in the first place. Wow. It's just, uh, you know, you never, never get it out, and now that's real irritating. It sure is. We eventually did, one time we just borrowed, took a personal loan and paid off all our credit cards, and the interest on the loan was cheaper than it was, you know, to just have that.
Uh-huh. We haven't done it lately. We probably need to do it again. Well, we did, you know, one time, we wanted to buy a truck, a used truck, and so we went down to the bank, and they said, Sure we'll give you a personal loan. It was only a thousand dollars that we needed for the truck. Uh-huh. And they said, sure that's no problem, but, you know, why don't we consolidate your bills, and at the time we thought, Oh, that would be great, you know, we could, and it's going to be a lower payment than it was for all of them, you only have to write one check a month, not all those. You never miss one or whatever Uh-huh. and we did that, but we didn't realize at the time, until several months later, that we, we were real, I mean this was four three years ago, we were pretty young and we were just kind of like,
well, I guess that means these credit cards are closed, and we didn't, you know, about six months later we realized we could use them, and so we charged them all up again. Oh, no. Yeah. So then we were not only paying those bills regular like we were before, but also adding the lower payment for all of them, So we were paying like twice. Um, so we didn't ever make that mistake again, luckily But, uh, we're definitely working on not doing that credit thing. We just, as a matter of fact, this, it's real interesting the subjects I get. They always seem to be so pertinent. But we just discussed this last night at church, talking about debt and things like that. It's so, so alluring, and uh, so easy to get, Uh-huh. uh, sometimes, I know, they really encourage you not to go into debt for anything except for maybe your house and your car. Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah, And, uh, if you could stick to that, you know, we'd get rid of a lot of indigestion and everything else. Yeah. That's true. Oh, I just picked up my daughter and she was eating a cupcake and now her crumbs all over. Oh, dear. Yeah. What a mess you are. Oh, so I don't know, if I, if I, I just feel kind of. My big thing was my husband really wanted to get rid of our Visa card, and I just thought, you know, if we ever had something go wrong with our refrigerator or something, you know and we had to, had to buy one, then we would really need that, Uh-huh. and so he said, Okay we'll keep it, and then we weren't smart enough to not use it, so. You know, one thing you might do with, in a situation like that, though, it's just like keep, Okay, so you're into microwave cooking.
Yeah, it's just, it's so easy nowadays, you know, and it's, uh, especially when people are working just to come home and pop something into the microwave and it be ready in just a few minutes , yes, and that's what we all are looking for, isn't it, something that we can just cook in a hurry after we get off work. Yeah. I've gotten in the habit of cooking something big on the weekends so that I have leftovers all week. All week. Well, we've done that, too. There's just my husband and I, and he, he sometimes makes a huge spot uh, pot of spaghetti Uh-huh. and, you know, we're eating it for a week and a half, and I kind of get sick of it after he I know. I try not to make too much. It's just my husband and I, too Uh-huh.
and I try not to make so much that it lasts more than that week Yeah but, uh, I usually, I usually like to make spaghetti or soup or chili or, you know, something like that or sometimes a roast, Right. but, Right. What's your favorite thing to cook if you're having a dinner party? Um, I have a great recipe for sour cream chicken enchiladas Oh, oh. it's, it's really good, I got it from a friend of mine that I used to work with Uh-huh. and, uh, every time I've served it, everybody just loves it. Ooh, that sounds delicious. So that's, that's one of my favorite things to make. Uh-huh. What about you? I end up with an old stand-by that we call Russian chicken, because it's so easy Uh-huh.
and, uh, it you have to cook very little to go with it, just some rice and some salad and that's about it, you know. Uh-huh. Well, what do you put in it? Uh, you make, you just take your boneless chicken breasts and then you take and make a, a dressing out of, uh, Russian dressing, one bottle of that and a package of Lipton Onion Soup mix and three ounces of apricot preserves Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Ooh, that sounds good. and you mix it up, and you just put it on the top of the chicken, and then I cover the pan with foil and put it in the oven for about an hour Uh-huh. and then I take the foil off and let it brown takes about another twenty minutes Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and it's delicious Ooh,
that sounds good. and it's so simple, because I can pop it in when I come in the door, you know, and then, uh, go about my business, and by the time I've got everything else ready, the chicken's chicken's done. Is done, right. So that's a real easy thing for me. Yeah, that sounds good, too. Uh-huh. I've got a, um, a great recipe for cheese cake. Oh, really. I don't know if you get SOUTHERN LIVING, but No, I don't, my mom gets that, but, they have one, if you like to cook, they have, every recipe I've tried out of that has been a really good one
Really. and, um, you know, every month they've got all different kinds of recipes, but, I got one in there about a year or so ago on cheese cake, and it's just a regular cheese cake, and then you can put raspberry, uh, topping on it Uh-huh. but inside the cheese cake, uh, recipe you put, um, lemon peel and orange peel Um. and it's just enough to taste it, you know, when, when, when you're eating the cheese cake, and it is wonderful, but it takes a long time, because you have to cook it for forty-five minutes, and then you turn the oven off, and you leave it in the oven for another forty-five minutes and then you open up the oven door and leave it in for another forty-five minutes and then you're supposed to, um, I think, chill it to room temperature Um. Oh, my goodness. Uh-huh. so sometimes I'll do that overnight, and then put the topping on the next day, but it's, it's very good. Well, I love cheese cake. I have never been, I don't know, the ones I have made I have not done that well with. Uh-huh.
I like a baked cheese cake, you know, I don't, I have had a recipe that someone has given me that it's kind of like you just mix cream cheese and stuff and refrigerate it, you know Right. Yeah. but that's not the same as a, a New York style cheese cake. No it's not. And, uh, the recipes that I've used, everybody will say, Oh, this is real simple, and then I make it, and it's, it's really not very good Right. but yours sounds good. I bet that lemon and orange peel gives it a little bit of tartness. It does, and it, it, it is really good. Um. Well, that sounds interesting, so there's your good dessert for your dinner party. Right
Are you into serving wines with your dinner party? Oh, sometimes, but I mean, I'm not a wine connoisseur by any means. Me, either. I wish I knew more about it. I've been to, you know, some wine tastings up in Napa Valley Uh-huh. but, um, you know, and I learned a little bit about them then, but you know what would be fun, they have some of those classes you can take Uh-huh. They would be, if you just had time to do it. yeah, and then there's places, um, do you live in Dallas Uh-huh. okay, there's places here that, um, offer, I think it's like once a month, you can go and, to a particular restaurant or whatever, and you can kind of take a cooking class
Uh-huh. and then you get to eat everything afterwards, and then they also go into the wines, you know to serve with, you know, different types of of meals and that kind of thing, Well, how neat. Uh-huh. and it sounds like it's a lot of fun. We have some friends who've done that, and they've really enjoyed it. Um, well, I didn't even know they were offering that. I guess I, Yeah, this place is called like Medina's or Messina's Kitchen or something like that. Uh-huh. Oh, well, I bet that would be a fun thing to do. Yeah, it, it sounds like, like it, Jay, um, my kids are, are both in college, um, and I'd, I played a fairly active part in helping them decide where to go. On the other hand, they really decided themselves.
Uh-huh. Um, what, what kind of experience did you have? Well, I, uh, one girl went in, in state and has graduated, and then, uh, that was, uh, you know, that was her choice pretty much where she wanted to go Uh-huh. and I have, uh, one, out of, two out of state, both in Missouri, and, um, I teach, uh, in a college, and so I they had heard me talk about it, and for years, that I didn't think it really made too much difference where they went for their undergraduate. Uh, so, that was pretty much, uh. Um. I see, well, I, may, maybe I'm wrong, but I think it makes a big difference in terms of finding a school that is sort of right for the child in terms of his or her happiness and, and, and the appropriate support environment and things like that. Oh, oh, if they, if they're content there, I mean as far as the education, as far as looking at the degree at the end, that, uh, it's very little difference is paid to it, where you get that bachelor's. Uh-huh. Uh, if it's a halfway decent school they should be happy naturally, Uh-huh. and if they can get, uh, um, two out of,
let's see, my son got a full total scholarships Uh-huh. and so there's, uh, there's plenty of scholarships out there, and so people should be advised to look for those, and, um, Did, did you play a, a strong role in helping them pick schools or did you just sort of say listen to your guidance counselors Uh. and, Well, they, uh, I went, we went around, my son was a, graduated from a Jesuit high school Uh-huh. and so he, he was pretty much looking for a Jesuit university, and so there you know, Uh-huh. that was limited to five or six different places and, um, so he's in Saint Louis U, and I guess I played a role in that. I, I just sort of, uh, let them, um, you know,
they'd all been, uh pretty efficient as far as studies Yeah. and, uh, so I didn't have that much to do, they just, uh they just knew they wanted to go to college, Yeah. and I, you know, helped them get there as far as traveling with them to look at different places. Yeah. Yeah. We did do that, and I would suggest a person always goes and looks at the school before they sign up. Yeah, I think that's a great idea, I mean, that, Some people don't do it, and then they get there and hate it, or whatever, so if it's possible. Right. It's, it seemed expensive at the time you're doing it, but, but the compared to the, the total decision it's nothing. Right. I think in the short run it is expensive.
In the long run it's very, uh, reasonable if the person, Yeah. my daughter has been in, in Missouri for a second year, now she's coming home at the end of the semester Uh-huh. so, uh, you know, she's already twenty-one. She started late. So that's, you know, strictly up to her, and, uh, she'll finish down here, uh, uh, finish this year down here and then decide what she's going to do next year. Yeah. It'll save me a lot of money because I'm not going to have to pay out of state tuition Yeah. but again, that's her decision Right. so, uh, but I have so many students in my classes that have dropped out and come back, and they're much better students at twenty-five, twenty-six, may, twenty-eight. So, you know, I don't, I never have pushed them. I just say that education is important, you should do it, uh, but, uh, they have to do the work Yeah.
so, uh. Yeah, well, back, back to this visiting thing, I mean, I found that my kids had no conception what college was really like and, and that the process of going around to a few schools with them really helped them understand Right. Yeah. and being able to go with them to at least some of them gave me a chance to explain things to them and to, uh, in reference to what we had seen. Oh, I think so. And also I'm opposed to the, to the size. They've just gotten so huge, and so my daughter first looked at a place that was forty thousand, see that's just too many. Good grief Ended up going to where I used to go, and that was twenty-five hundred when I went there, it's twenty-one thousand, now it's too big. Good grief. So, What is twenty-one thousand?
Pardon? What school is that? It's Southwest Missouri State University Uh-huh. and, uh, it was twenty-five hundred when I went there forty years ago, and, uh, my son's in a school about seven thousand, and that's, that's not bad Uh-huh. I teach in a school about eight thousand, and that's, that's even a little large Yes. but it's much better than twenty-one thousand. But they do have to visit, and if, if the parent can point out all the different places to look for for scholarships, Uh-huh. and then, oh, those rating, uh, the magazines and all those things are doing the ratings now and everything, I don't think it hurts to look at them Yes. I don't put that much stock in them, but
Uh-huh. probably fine just to compare. Helps to at least set up range of things to look at. Right. If they, you know, uh, they need to, Okay, who do you like? Okay, What kind do I like? I like just about any kind except country and western. Yeah, that's the same with me, same with me. It's, it's, course country and western even I've gotten a little bit used to because it's not like it used to be. Uh-huh. Like Clint Black, he's pretty good, and who's the other big guy? Well, in Oklahoma we say Garth Brooks Garth Brooks, yeah,
that's, yeah, that's the other guy I was thinking of was Garth Brooks. Yeah, in fact I think both of them have performed here. And Kenny Rogers, he's kind of country western verge, you know on the verge of country western. Right. Of course, Garth Brooks lives about, uh, you know, his, his home town is about, uh, fifteen minutes away Oh, wonderful. so he is, he's a home boy Well, then, of course you like him. That's great. But, well, I have teen age children, and so, you know, I'm, hear the, the rock music, not the hard rock, but the, you know, Michael Bolton type stuff. Uh-huh. He's my personal favorite. My son is, uh, twenty-eight, so, but he, he's real unusual in that, uh, he likes a little bit of every kind. He likes jazz and, uh, blues and, and course the rock Oh, that's good.
Uh-huh, uh-huh. I, I can't say he's real crazy about elevator music, as he calls it. No, no, I, I don't, I don't, actually, we don't listen to any elevator music at my house. But I've got teenagers, so. Well, my teenagers are all gone. I can listen to any music I want to Yeah, that's good, I, actually, when I'm home alone, which isn't too often, but, uh, our Public Radio Station has wonderful classical music. It's just very wonderful. Soothing, and, you know, uh, lot of symphonies and, I just, I love that, that's probably my all-time favorite. You know, uh, I, I teach Um. and we can have music in the classroom, but it, you know, it can't be the rock or anything like that
Right. and I, I find that the classical music is very good for the kids too, it doesn't disturb them and yet it's, it's, it stimulates them, Right. Relax, and and, uh, Yeah. What do you teach, what grade? Well, it's ninth, nine through twelve Good for you. and, A certain subject? Well, it's, uh, business technology. Good for you. But, uh I was just sitting here while she was trying to find, a, a, another caller, uh, I was reading my, my husband and I are taking a computer class at our junior college oh, boy, Yeah, it's pretty good,
it's just a real basic class, but we're learning a lot, and we have a home computer, so it's, it's very interesting. Uh, yeah, I'd learn it too. Uh, back to, I guess we'd better get back to music, though. Yeah, the subject of music I, uh, do you play any instruments? I play, I play piano, I took lessons for thirteen years, and right now my nine year old is taking piano, and I just got a whole mess of music, I, I play the, volunteer to play the piano at the children's Christmas program for the whole grade school, which is K through six five hundred kids. Ooh, you took on a, good job. I did it last year, and, and, um, I, I just sub at the school,
I don't want to work full time, so I just sub at the school, and that's kind of my volunteer thing, so that, it, it's really neat, and my older daughter plays the saxophone, my next son plays the drums, and my third son just started baritone this year, and my little girl will start French horn next year, so. Oh, well, my son played the sax and drums, my daughter the piano, organ and French horn. Oh. So. French horn is absolutely wonderful instrument. It's just my favorite. Of course that's what I played, and so I'm pushing that on my daughter because I want to play in our city band, not the symphony, with just the city band once we get the, the French horn Oh, okay. and I get a little bit more time. Right now I'm busy chasing my kids. Yes,
sounds like you've got a houseful. I do, I do, I love it, but we have a, a marvelous band instructor, and, and he's just, he's wonderful. We have, uh, couple of hundred kids in the band, our junior high band is just wonderful. Oh, that's a, He, lot, and their concert band, and then he has a jazz band that my older daughter was in, and my son will be in next year that's, I mean, they play college level music in junior high, he's that good of an instructor, and the kids just love him. Oh, that's wonderful, So it's really good. It is wonderful. I, I have totally, totally a tin ear Oh do you
and I love music. I cannot carry a tune in a basket. I know what I like, but I Uh-huh. you know, and I love to listen to it, love to sing, and I, my kids, when I was little and, they were little and I was rocking them, singing to them. Uh-huh. Oh, I guess, uh, this is a, a topic near and dear to my heart, since I am a, am a healthy eater, Well, I, I try to be as well, Well, I'm not, uh, I, there really isn't any kind of particular food that I, I don't, don't like really, and I like a good Italian restaurant or a good, uh, uh, Uh-huh. especially like good prime rib Uh-huh. so if it's, uh, nice to get out and find a good restaurant like that, and I live here in, uh, Rome, New York, and there are a lot of good restaurants around here. Oh, you're in New York,
I was going to, there's a place, if you ever make it to Dallas they have the best prime rib. Uh-huh. It's called Lawry's, like Lawry's seasoning salt Uh-huh. and it is absolutely wonderful. Really. And, uh, we were there a few months ago, and it, I mean, it's kind of pricey, well, from New York it probably doesn't matter, but Oh, no, I'm in upstate New York, and it's actually very inexpensive, I, there's a there's a place, um, half a mile from me here that, uh, has, uh, fantastic prime rib for, oh, eleven dollars for a whole meal, you know a potato and salad and soup, and the whole, whole nine yards, Oh, is it, okay. Wow. Uh-huh. so that,
Yeah, well, I think the cheapest there probably starts at eighteen, and it includes, you know, salad and rolls and, oh, some other stuff, but it is absolutely wonderful. Right. It's the best I have ever had. Uh, I was going to this place up the street from me is the best I've ever had, so, I'll have to go there when I get to get to Dallas. Yeah Well, Yeah, well, we like, uh, lots of people down here like Mexican food Uh-huh, sure. so, um, that's, I, I think Italian and Mexican food are probably my favorites. Uh-huh. But, um, I'm not into sushi or any of that kind of stuff. No, no,
I'm not into the, the, don't do the, the raw, raw fish like that, but I do like, uh, like a seafood bar, like a raw, raw bar like oysters and things like that, uh Uh-huh. that they, uh, I go on, I'm an officer in the Air Force and travel quite a bit on business Oh, okay. so I, uh, find myself down in Melbourne, Florida about once, once a month, once every two months or so and, uh, go and hit the, the oyster bars down there quite a bit Uh-huh. Oh, yeah but, I love that, fresh seafood down there, Yeah, and, um, and, uh, Maryland's great, you get the crabs Uh-huh. it's like, I can't go anywhere where I where I don't enjoy myself, Yeah so, Yeah,
seafood seems to be a a little bit more expensive than, than other types of food. That's true. But it sure is good, and it's supposed to be good for you. Yeah, well, uh, it's really strange that, that, that seafood is so expensive, because when you, in reality, uh, uh, I, say that, uh, the oceans have the greatest resource of food on the planet, Right. and yet, we haven't, as human beings, haven't figured out a way to harvest it economically Right. so, we managed to, uh, figure out how to get at just about everything else, but, uh, but not, uh, not seafood. Uh-huh. Do you like spicy foods or, Yeah, yeah, I like, uh, I make a, a wicked chili and around here the big spicy thing is like, uh, buffalo wings Oh, uh-huh. and so, uh, it, people, they, you know, you go out to get the chicken wings
and those are really hot and the hotter the better, Yeah. Yeah. Well, we, uh, we like spicy food down here, especially, uh, the hot sauce, Picante sauce, or salsa whatever you all call it Right. Sure. and, uh, we, we sure go through a lot of that Yeah. But I like it hot, but I don't like it real hot because then my nose starts running Uh-huh. My, generally my, my scalp will start, I can feel just the top of my scalp getting hot, the weirdest, weirdest sensation, almost like a tingling, but, uh, I don't know, but, uh, yeah, well, there isn't, isn't too much in the way of restaurants that I don't like. Yeah. Things that are kind of oddball, like, uh, Thai cuisine, I never been really fond of that stuff.
You talk about spicy, that'll, that'll literally blow your head off, it's so hot. Uh-huh. And, uh, and I can handle just about any kind of food without, uh, um, well, but that, that stuff is, goes one notch beyond, uh, my tolerances, Uh-huh So. Although I guess on this topic are to talk about the, uh, service in a restaurant is always nice though, too Oh, yeah, that's one thing, and the price. And the price. Make you want to come back. What's that? Yeah, Well, I find that lately that so many people are working, you know, working waitressing jobs or waiter, Go ahead. Um, I haven't given this a, a lot of thought. I'm, uh, that, that's a whole, pleased with the practice that is they, I, uh, I don't, you would favor invasions of privacy on the other hand that's arguable but that, that, uh, people who's jobs are critical to public safety should have to meet special standards. Uh, I haven't given this matter enough thought.
Do you work for T I? No, uh, Oh. I'm in the Washington area. I work for N I S T . Oh, okay. Oh, all right. Well, see we have the testing already here. We've had it for, oh, about five years. Uh-huh. It used to just be for new employees. And now it's for all employees. And now, They, uh, randomly select employee numbers and, uh, the day that they select you is when you have to go and, and be tested. Okay, and how do people feel about it? So, we're familiar with it. Oh, we have a lot of, um, people upset about it at the beginning. Some not all. But what was happening at T I is that they found certain parts of the company there was a lot of drug abuse. Um, mainly the areas where they were doing a lot of, um, manufacturing type things
and what they ended up doing is, uh, kind of like doing a little bit of an undercover agent to watch what was happening, and we had people using on the premises and actually selling and dealing, you know, on the premises. Well, okay, that's, that's a very different issue. Well, yeah, it was, you know, combination of, of, uh, both activities and, uh, and using too so they developed this, uh, drug policy so that, uh, to eliminate, there's some parts of the company that we do, uh, government contracts, and I think some of those require the drug testing, but now T I thought well, we'll just do it for all employees that, um, not just because of safety issues but because we want a totally drug free safe environment for all people to work in and that we shouldn't have, um, people on drugs within our, you know, offices and such. And, I haven't personally ever been tested, but I don't have a problem with it. Um, does the testing cover alcohol as well as illegal drugs? No, but one thing that to, to me was, um, going on, stretching it a little too far was that they also check, um, if you are taking somebody else's prescription drug. You know, it happens a lot of times like some member of the family gets the flu or whatever and, you know then they give it to everybody else in the family and don't always go back to the, you know, doctor and get another prescription.
Well , Well, according to what they do at T I, if you take a prescription drug it has to be in your name. It, you know, it can't be in your spouse's name so they will look, I mean, the testing will look for, I guess, any kind of drugs, and you have to tell them what they are taking a prescription for. So they ask you to declare beforehand what prescription drugs you are taking? Right. Yes, yes. When you get tested you are supposed to tell them, you know, everything that, that might be there. And then if they ever, um, question you or something you may have to show proof that you do have a prescription in your name. Okay. Well, it, I mean, it's, I guess that, in fact, they don't test for, for, they don't routinely test for very many prescription drugs but that I, but they don't say in advance , uh, so, Well, what they be testing for are the ones that would have like, you know, barbiturates or codeine things like that in them. The ones that would kind of constitute controlled substances or something anyway . Right, right. I guess that's what they wouldn't be looking for penicillin and antibiotics and stuff.
They would be looking for the, yeah, controlled things, barbiturates amphetamines. So what they are asking you to tell them is all the prescription drugs you are taking which are controlled substances. Right, right. You pretty much, you know, put down what you remember even if it was just Contact or something like that. But afterwards, uh, maybe if you had a controlled substance Well, Is Contact a, you, you probably put down, you know, you had Drixoral or Contact if you would remember that you did it. Okay. Is Contact a, substance? No. I'm, just saying you probably put down on the sheet anything you have taken. Okay. Okay. But if they had a controlled substance, maybe they would ask you then to show that you had that prescription in your name. I know I had one contract employee through Manpower was not a T I person, but was a contract person, Uh-huh. and they test them too even if you are not a real, uh, T I If you are a contract employee here they test you too. Uh-huh.
And he had taken some kind of, um, oh, you know, uh, just, he had some kind of flu or something. He got a real bad migraine and he took his mother's, All right. What is your favorite show? Well, I was just trying to think. When they called, I didn't have as much time to prepare for this as I did some of the others. Um, I love watching some of the, uh, new, new shows basically. Uh-huh. And we, uh, we subscribe to C N N and we took that, and we started watching a lot of those especially during the war or during anything kind of thing like the earthquake, and I have gotten stuck on a lot of this. The new shows and the stuff that comes on that, that it, you know, like the, uh, at night the discussion talk shows and things. Uh-huh. And we really haven't gotten a lot into the sitcoms that are current, uh, especially with the kids here because we have to kind of filter it before they get here. Sure. We have little ones.
Uh, we do let them watch NINE ONE ONE, Uh-huh. and we think that's kind of informative to teach them, how to handle things in situations. It really is. Uh-huh. What do you watch? I watch just about anything, but not a lot of, T V. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I mean I'll watch, you know, maybe a little while when I first get home in the evening. Uh-huh. And I usually watch, you know, the news and then I'll watch that HARD COPY or or that kind of thing, you know, Uh-huh. That's the same thing we do. and I like the NINE ONE ONE, and UNSOLVED MYSTERIES. Uh-huh. Yeah, that kind, that's the kind I like really more than, the sitcoms. Uh-huh.
I haven't gotten, into many of those. Now, I do, like, my husband is really crazy about EVENING SHADE that comes on, on Monday evening. I have heard that's real good. And I, uh, That's, Burt Reynolds, isn't it? Uh-huh. Yeah, I've heard that. And I've got to where every Monday I rush around so I could sit and watch that with him because it's really funny. Now someone told me that and also, uh, I meant to be trying to pick up on MURPHY BROWN, because they said that that was really good this season. Uh-huh. Well, his favorite night is Monday night so we've got to where we will sit, and watch it on Monday night, You've got to yeah, Uh-huh. because that and then that, uh, oh, I can't even think of the name of it. Like I say I'm not,
DESIGNING WOMEN is on that night, too. Yeah, and the one with the, the sergeant that married the woman with the kids, Sergeant McGillis . Huh, I don't even know. Sergeant, uh, MAJOR DAD. Oh, okay. Now I, we've never even seen that. Yeah, that comes on right after, uh, the EVENING SHADE and then MURPHY BROWN, and DESIGNING WOMEN. Uh-huh. So we always, he watches that and I kind of I watch the first one then kind of sit in on the others, as I can. On the others. Well, you know, on Friday nights especially, we like to watch TWENTY TWENTY. Uh-huh. Or, um, Uh-huh. It's kind of a competition on Thursdays between PRIME TIME and KNOTS LANDING. Yeah. But, uh, we used to like KNOTS LANDING a lot.
Oh, excuse me just a minute to someone in the The money is right there on the thing and the coupon. Well, you can't hardly watch KNOTS LANDING with the little kids around though. Oh, I know. That's the thing. And so, we, Except they, probably are in bed, by nine. Uh-huh. Well, they are. In fact, on weeknights they are in bed by eight, but we have just gotten any more that where we just keep it off. Did you get your pizza taken care of? Yeah, he has gone to get it. Thank you Um, but I was to say on Saturdays there is absolutely nothing and that's the day my husband, wants to . Well, do you know, I have picked up a show lately on Saturday night that I've really liked and that's SISTERS.
Have you watched that? No, but I saw that advertised today and it sounds like it's not fluff. It sounds like it's good. It's really, you know, it's really pretty good. Uh-huh. I mean, it's kind of like, you know, um, soap opera I guess. Yeah, that's what they said it was kind of, a little more drama to it. But it's a, So far it, I've watched it about three times now and it's really held my attention. It's been pretty good. Some, pretty good acting. Well, and and another one now that it's getting darker and you are wanting to cocoon more, that they said is excellent is the I'LL FLY AWAY and BROOKLYN BRIDGE. Some of these, that are nostalgic. Now I watched, BROOKLYN BRIDGE this week for the first time, Did you, like it?
but I haven't, I did. I liked it. Did you? Well, they said that one and I'LL FLY AWAY are really quality, you know and, Now I haven't seen I'LL FLY AWAY yet. I haven't seen it either. I think what I need to do is kind of read to see what is on these days because by the time we get the kids in bed at eight o'clock and then I get my bath it's, you know, it's almost too late to start, something new. Uh-huh. It's nearly, too late for T V. Yeah. That's the way I am. I get in, from work Yeah. and I'm tired and I sit and watch for a few minutes so I have to get up and do dinner, and everything. Uh-huh. Yeah,
and then we've gotten to where we rent videos for weekend nights. Uh-huh. So, it's like, we are kind of, tuned out of our T V. Yeah. That's us. If we are home on the weekend, we always watch videos, so. Yeah, well, we do too. But there are some good shows on. I, I really probably should watch more of them than I do. Yeah. But I like, I don't know I, I'm always in to making things and, And I don't just spend all my time, I don't know, yeah. There's a lot more to do with, with your time when you get into it. and I, my husband, now he sits and watches T V constantly.
Uh-huh. Well, my, my sister and them and her husband do on weekends. They don't have children yet, and they just turn it on when they walk in, they turn it off when they leave. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So they are used to that too. I could be around here for hours by myself and never have it on. Yeah, I understand. Same here. But, uh, but there are some really good new shows that I have enjoyed, and I'll have to watch that I'LL FLY AWAY this week. Yeah, it's real good. And then of course, in the afternoons if I get in from work in time I watch OPRAH, some of those, you know, talk shows. Yeah. I like her. I never get in in time for any of those.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's nice talking to you. I guess we've kind of exhausted this one, but it's nice talking with you. Well, it's nice talking with you. Thank you. Bye. Bye-bye. Uh, I guess it's, uh, watching the the T V today there had a lot of stuff on, on, uh, crime. In our state right now, uh, recently they've had a lot of, uh, uh, the rapists, uh, murder type, uh, killers going around and well, I, I, Oh, gracious. they've caught them and they, they're in there. Uh-huh. Wasn't it your state that had the, uh, guy that committed all those murders? There was that, uh, Well, yeah,
Wisconsin, uh, and Milwaukee area, you know. Yeah. Yeah, that was really on the national news a lot. We heard a lot about that in Texas. Yeah. So that's, well, I, I live right on the border of Minnesota and Wisconsin so I kind of get both, both news and, I know, in Minnesota, uh, they had, uh, the one that just, uh, got out and went after a, uh, college student and raped, and killed her Oh. and they are not too happy about that now, I guess, so. Well, I can imagine. There . It seems like the violent crimes are increasing a lot to me. I, I don't know. I don't know if statistically they are but it seems like you sure hear a, maybe you just hear a lot more about them on the news I don't know.
Yeah, uh, that's hard to say for sure. I, uh, sometimes I wonder if these people aren't don't it just for the publicity and, They, they get their names in the, in the paper You wonder about that sometimes. and they become big celebrities. But, Uh-huh. That's kind of scary. I, I wish there was some way that we could change the news media so they didn't feature these way out stories. Maybe it wouldn't give other people ideas. Well, uh, I know one I, I think Texas has the death penalty, right? Yes, we do. Yeah. Do you have it up there? No, no. I see. See I, I
Do you think that's a deterrent? Yeah, well, it's, it's, it's not going to prevent any people from doing it but, the person that's caught, he'll never do it again if he gets the death penalty. Yeah. And that's, and there are a lot of repeaters. Uh, Uh-huh. I guess that's another thing that to me is a, a real problem, and I know we have got so many people in our prison system now, at least here in Texas Yeah. I mean, they are really in a crisis. There has been times they have had to just close off the prisons and leave them in county jails or whatever because there just wasn't enough room for all of them. Yeah. And a lot of them they put out on parole and then some of the ones that they put out early, you know, do repeat offenses and, the crime rate is the worst than ever before. Huh. Yeah. Well, some, I'm just wondering a lot of times they will put, uh, people, lesser crimes in, uh, with, uh, people that did more severe crimes
than they, maybe they just tend to learn from these people and they, and when they get back out, they just go into worse crimes. I think that could be true too. Maybe they should try and separate them a little bit more. Uh, I think the whole parole thing, you know, if somebody is convicted of second-degree murder or something gets fifteen years, well, they are out in six or seven. You know, outbound on the streets again Yeah. And to me that's really scary. Some of these crimes that they commit, you know, seems like the punishment is not really equal to the crime. Uh-huh. Well, uh, I don't know with, with my limited, uh, psychology background I do have, I don't, I don't even feel that prisons and stuff are, are the answer. If you want to stop the crime, I think you've got to get, uh, the people when they are kids. Oh, yeah. A lot of this probably just starts with, from the, from the homes. Also from the, the, the media, the T V the, uh, Uh-huh. all these, uh, gory movies on there becomes, uh, just a natural fact of life. Uh-huh. They think it's okay thing to do. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a very good point.
You know, I, there's a lot more working mothers, a lot more kids in day care centers all that kind of thing. Morality is being taught more by the schools a lot of times than in the home anymore. And, Uh-huh. Well, a lot of the European countries, uh, they tend to sensor, well, they probably won't sensor so much the sexual stuff as much as the violent. Uh-huh. And they have a lot less crime. Huh. Some of, some of those European countries are, are, you can leave your, your, uh, doors open and, and, and be safe. Uh, even, uh, I think New Zealand is one of, one of the places, uh, that, Well, Sid, have you established what kind of requirements you are looking for, for your next vehicle? Well, I don't know if I really have a, a lot of, uh, requirements. Uh, I guess I look at, uh, getting the best deal. Uh, that's my main objectives normally. Whoever is willing to deal and, and give me a good price. Okay. Well, I, I tend to be more methodical I guess. Uh, I determine first of all what I'm going to use the vehicle for, whether it's going to be primarily as a family mover or as a, a personal mover. Uh, where it's going to be driven, you know, what types of, uh, driving I'm going to be doing on it, primarily highway or, or local mileage more often.
And, uh, hanging in the back of my mind is always the knowledge that I tend to drive cars for about ten years and a hundred fifty to two hundred thousand miles. Uh-huh. So I'm, I'm real picky. if you are going to keep something that long, you know, you better get something that you wanted to begin with and that you are going to like for a long time. Yeah. I don't know I've had pretty good luck, you know, even if, if you take any car and, and you care for it well enough, uh, you are going to get some good life out of it. Uh, my, my Oldsmobile right now that I have, uh, is getting near eighty thousand and it's still in pretty good shape. Uh, there was a flaw in there where a, where a head gasket bolt broke, and it cost me some bucks to, to fix that but that was, you know, something that was unforeseen. But I still think I I'm going to get probably a hundred fifty thousand or more out of it. Sure. Well, it sounds like you tend to drive your cars quite a ways also then. Well, I, I drive like the song says, THE LITTLE OLD LADY but, uh, but not FROM PASADENA But, uh, yeah, I, I baby them as much as I possibly can. Uh, it's a pretty big expense nowadays.
Uh, and I guess I like to take care of it, uh, so I don't have to buy one too often. That's true. Uh, do you have more than, than one vehicle in your fleet? Uh, do you have a family fleet or, Yeah, I, I, I got an old, uh, seventy-six, uh, Grand Fury that, uh, doesn't want to die on me so I, I just keep running the thing. Don't want to sell it or get rid of it until it quits, but it just doesn't seem to want to. I'll probably have, uh, three, four hundred thousand before it wants to die. Well, that may be. They, Chrysler made some really good old engines back then like the, the three eighteen was particularly an exceptionally good engine. Oh. I've got the big three sixty in there, gas guzzler but it runs good. Yeah. At the moment I've got, uh, Cadillac Cimarron which is approaching its tenth year of age and a, uh, reasonably new Plymouth Voyager. It's only a, a couple of years old. But that's the second one of, of those that we've had,
and that's the, the family travel vehicle. You know, not only does it do all the, the, uh, carpooling around during the week, but it's also the vacation vehicle that we all drive in. I think that what I'm getting ready to get next is probably a Suburban unless they drastically change the, the vehicle a lot. Uh, I'm just getting tired of when I do get hung up in traffic, not being able to determine what the problem is and, and come to some resolution of whether it's better to sit in the traffic light and wait or get off at the next exit and that kind of stuff. Just because I can't see, you know, Yeah. I'm to, my Cimarron is just so small and so low to the ground that I can't see past any vehicle that's in front of me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm considering probably some kind of a pickup truck myself for the next vehicle. Uh, I just have so many hauling projects a lot of times and, uh, I, I'd like to just start doing some, uh, carpentry, uh, type work around. I just feel that, So, so what have you seen lately that, um, you think is worthwhile? Um, the last movie I saw was REGARDING HENRY. Have you seen that yet? No, I, I saw the previews. It's really good. I loved it.
Um, it's, um. Does, does he, does it have a happy ending, or. Yeah, really good ending Uh-huh. um, uh, it was the, it's one of the best movies I've seen in a long time. I generally don't get into movies that much, but I saw that one, and then before that one, I saw, um, oh, NAKED GUN TWO AND A HALF. Oh, that was funny, wasn't it Yeah, did you, have you seen that one? Yes, and, and, and, and the regular NAKED GUN and AIRPORT and, you know. Yeah, it's exactly like AIRPLANE wasn't it Yes. But it was silly. Right.
So, now these are for two very different movies. One, one, uh, absolutely slapstick comedy and one clearly, you know, serious subject. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, I guess I have similarly broad tastes. Um, my most recent, um, movie that I, that I liked a lot, not my most recent movie, was HENRY THE FIFTH. I only rented it, you know, maybe a month ago Uh-huh. and it's been out for a couple of years, but. Have you seen that? I haven't seen that yet. Well, it's, it's a, it's an adaptation of the, of the Shakespeare play, and it's beautifully done. Um, I believe that all the language is as Shakespeare wrote it, except it's been shortened a little bit and there might be a word or two changed. Right. Uh, but it's, it's, it's a glorious movie Um. Such as um, and I like, as you know, these, these, these silly movies,
and I also like just some strange movies. Do you have any. Well, the, the one that comes immediately to mind, I, um, is the THE COOK, THE THIEF, HIS WIFE, HER LOVER. Um, but there are also these various, um, David Lynch movies. Uh-huh. Um, I got, I got hooked on TWIN PEAKS. That made me go out and watch every David Lynch movie I could lay my hands on. Oh, really. I haven't seen any of those. Oh. Um well, I don't, I don't especially recommend, They're really good? I mean, you have, you have to just sort of like this thing, you have to like, did you see TWIN PEAKS? Huh-uh, no. No, so, okay. So, if you weren't, if you weren't drawn to watch that, you, maybe you wouldn't be drawn to these movies, either.
Uh-huh. They're, they're just strange. Are they, I mean, is it, like mystery, or suspense Well, uh. I think suspense is the right word. or, Uh, and, but, but, a little bit strange and esoteric and, uh, in the case of TWIN PEAK a little, there's some elements of the supernatural in it, too. Oh really. That was the television show. Um. Um, there's also a, a a producer of movies in Baltimore called, um, John Walters, who, who puts, puts on even weirder movies. Uh, his most recent ones have actually been fairly mainstream, like HAIR SPRAY. Um, but back in his early days, he, he, he had things, um, um, what, what are the titles, I can't remember the titles any more. But, some really weird ones, uh, with quite a random crew of, of characters. Um, it would have made, you know, these Fellini movies look normal. Right. So do you like, um, movies a lot? See I don't do, I don't.
I do, I do like movies a lot. Right. See, I don't do that, I don't go to movies that often, but, just recently I've been to a couple Do, do you rent them, or. Um, no, we, I just go to like the dollar movie theater around here generally, Yes. but, I don't know, I just, I usually fall asleep or I get bored pretty easily so. Yeah, that's what my wife does too, um, I mean, she falls asleep Uh-huh. So we have to, we have to pick just the right kind of movie to, to, to, to appeal. Yeah.
Right, that's exactly right. Well, well it was good talking to you. Yeah, it's good to talk to you, too. Take care. Uh-huh. Okay, bye. Bye-bye. Okay, did they tell you our topic? Uh, no, somebody else answered the phone and put my number in. Okay, it's, uh, Uh, what is the topic? The topic is cars. What kind of car will you buy next and what kind of decision you'd, do you think about getting, you know, pick that car out and, uh, and why.
Okay. Uh, my next car to buy probably would be a Cadillac. Okay. I've had, uh, well, I'm on my third one. And I'm not real sure that I'd be in the market for a car for quite a while. Yeah, I'm the same way. I was, uh, I had two Cadillacs. I went to my first Lincoln this last time. I travel and, uh, my grandfather worked for Ford Motor Company so he always said why don't you drive a Ford, or why don't you try a Lincoln Uh-huh. so I finally tried one after fifty years My, and, uh, I've had, I guess, I guess four Cadillacs and, and one Suburban in my last five cars, but I bought a Lincoln and I like it. My dad has been a, a, uh, Lincoln man for a lot of years,
but I've always been a G M man. I'm in the auto parts business myself. Oh, are you? And, uh, the last Cadillac I bought was an Allante. Uh-huh. And I just love it to death. I'm not sure I'd ever get rid of it. Well, I'm a, I'm a traveling salesman. I travel on the road so I like a little heavier car but, I used to do that quite a bit myself. So that's why I choose, you know, to drive a heavier car and more luxury car. Yeah. But, I tell you what, I will probably get a Cadillac the next time quite honestly. Really? Yeah, because I like the Lincoln but, there's just something about that Cadillac that, whether it's a G M C product or whatever. Seems they handle better.
They seem to put, They seem to be put together a little bit better. I think so, too. And, you know, the buttons on the controls and things like that are a little easier to get to than Ford products and I think that's one of the things that makes me shy away from, uh, imports is they put so much, you know, gadgetry on the dash and, and the, the buttons are so small to push Yeah, they really do. and G M doesn't seem to do that. I kind of like that feature, so. You know, I'm a funny duck that came, it comes to the simple things like front end alignments Uh-huh. I have never had to have a front end alignment on a Cadillac. I don't know why, why whether I just seem to drive them better or what, Uh-huh. but, I've never had to have a front end alignment on a Cadillac. They always appear to hold well. I've, uh, I had an Eldorado, was my first one, was an eighty Uh-huh.
and, uh, I think at about sixty thousand miles I finally had it lined up. Did you. And I had them do all four wheels. And the only thing I miss about a Cadillac is, a Fleetwood Brougham was my last car and I traded it in, traded it in on my Lincoln and they're just not as large as before. I do miss that. That's true, yeah. But, what is big today. Well, you're right. You know. Lincoln is still as big as it always has been but, Yeah, it's big, but the trunk space for me, uh, what I usually do is I usually take the back seat out of my car and that's where I put my samples because trunks just aren't big enough. You know a car I ran across recently that has a tremendously large trunk is the Lincoln Continental.
Yeah, now, I have the Town Car and it's, it's a deep trunk, but not as broad as the, uh, the Cadillac. Well, the Town Car, I noticed, uh, or with the, with the Continental, uh, I was, rented one, one time uh, we could, uh, put golf clubs in them. Uh-huh. Oh, good. You know, straight across. I mean, They went all the way down? Front to back. Well, that's good. Not going from side to side. That's good. And we got three full sets in there and still had room for luggage. Yeah, I sell sporting goods, uh, hunting related items, I sell guns, gun cases and things like that I see. Yeah.
and I need to, you know, that's about the same size as a golf club. Uh-huh. They need to, samples need to stretch out and gun cases and things like that and, I don't know if you've ever looked at a Continental. Nope. Uh, it's not as peppy as a, as a Town Car Right. because it's a V Six, but it, uh, I I drove it from here to Memphis and I really enjoyed driving that car. If I was going to buy a Ford product, that's what I would buy. Yeah. I drove mine a couple weeks ago to our, one of our big national sales meetings in Nashville. I usually fly. I drove it with another one of my guy that worked for me. We drove it ten hours to Nashville, and it, it handled real well,
but, my main thing is space, so if a Continental, I might consider it the next time, a Continental has more trunk space. You might take a look at them. They, they had a, a lot more trunk space. As a matter of fact, they had more trunk space than my, uh, Sedan De Ville had. You always have leather interiors on your Cadillacs? Uh, all three of mine have had leather interiors, yeah. Yeah, I like leather interiors also. Uh, I had a eighty Eldorado, which was leather and, uh, then my eighty-six was a touring sedan. Uh-huh. And, uh, it had the gray leather package in it and my Allante has, uh I guess saddle, saddle colored type thing. That's a nice car. You bet, and I'll, I will say one thing about Cadillacs versus,
Uh, so my favorite team is about the Rangers. Is it? I'd have to agree with that. They are my favorite team, too. Yeah. A little disappointing the last few years. I'm telling you. You think they'll sign Ruben? You know I really don't. No? I just don't think, you know, with that guy from Pittsburgh getting all that money, twenty-seven or twenty-nine million or whatever it was, I just don't think that they're going to be able to sign Ruben Sierra and it's just going to be a shame for, you know, our area. Right. Yeah, I think it's going to have a big effect if they don't on the other, uh, Hispanic players. Oh, I do, too. I just, I think that's going to be the big problem. The main thing, It's just going to effect on the, the team, you know.
Right. We just can't seem to, you know, I think we've been in this spot, I think we finished second once or maybe even twice. I don't know, I I'm, I haven't been to a baseball game in a couple of years. Yeah. It's just, it's just too disappointing. I just watch them fall every year. Right. I was a Pete Incaviglia fan and, uh I liked him, Oh. but, of course, I understand baseball decisions are all just, decisions like that have to be made by someone Glad it's not me making them. Right I think they just want to stay mediocre and draw their two million fans out there and then be happy with it and not have to pay the bucks to get a contender in here. But, They say as long as they draw up two million fans that Greave and Valentine will be there.
Right. Right, yeah. So, and that's the name of the game, too. You got to make money. You know, pay these players so much money, Right. now, it's just it's frightening. Right. You and I should be so lucky to, you know, to go out and swing a bat and get two thousand dollars every time you swing the bat or something like that. That's true. But, uh, they were talking about trading him, if they're not able to sign him and, uh, use the money that it would take to sign the guy, you know, to pay for pitchers or, you know, what it, what it, what they, what else they need. Because they've got the hitting, but they need the pitching. Yeah, they really do. Um. I think they, uh, I think they need them all. I just don't I understand the big cities, like in New York or L A or somewhere because big cities and, you know, a guy, a pro athlete can go out there in the afternoon and probably make five thousand dollars just by doing a personal appearance at a at a men's clothing store, or something, or sporting goods store, Oh, I know.
but, I realize the difference, but, I just don't understand, Yeah, it's sure aggravating when you go out and bust your butt working, you know, your day job and you can work your day job the rest of your life and not bring home as much money as they bring home in one game. Oh, I know. I tell you. It's real aggravating, but, But, one thing I don't understand is why a group, you know, headed up by George Bush would buy the Texas Rangers and not really get behind them because I tell you, we need a winner in this town. It looks like our Cowboys are coming back but, So that's, that's going to be a big help to Dallas, That's right. but, you know, in the past half a dozen years, all we've had is the, uh the soccer team. It's always got, Yeah, it's always, it's always wondered me why, I mean, they act as though this area is not, you know, a big metropolitan area, but you think we'd, someday get an owner in here that could afford to buy the, the, the players we need. Oh, I know. It's,
Just real aggravating to because I've lived here, you know, since, well, I was born and raised here, so I've been a Ranger fan since about seventy-seven, so it's a lot of losers Oh, I know. It's about to get, you know as bad as the Cubs or whoever, you know. I've been one, Yeah, I've been, I've lived here since seventy-four and I've really been a Ranger fan for the longest time and excuse me, I don't miss a time picking up the morning paper and checking the box score. Right. I mean I follow them and I follow them like I follow the Mavericks and like I follow the Cowboys, but, and I want to see them win, because you know, damn it, they, the fans deserve it. I mean, it, You know, we have pretty, uh, great fans, put two million people in that stadium. Right. I'm telling you. I love Nolan Ryan. I guess you probably love him, too.
Right, I think this town would go crazy if they ever got a, even a playoff team. Oh, I do, too. I mean, It would be packed. And they got that new stadium they are building. So, at least, at least that will be exciting when we get that, It will. but, Well, where do you think they are heading this year? Uh, it's hard to say. It's going to be depending on where the, what they do with Ruben Sierra and, uh, I mean, I'm getting tired of them going into each year saying, you know, Bobby Witt is the answer and Kevin Brown is the answer, Right and, man, that's getting old, you know. These guys have been pampered. I mean, it's time to, to either, you know, put out or shut up. Yeah, Bobby Witt gets forced into wins like seventeen games or whatever And, and they have the later ten game winning streak
Right. and they give him all kinds of money and then he just goes right down the tubes. And Valentine and Greave, they're about to get, you know, they're about to get old. But I like this Sandy Johnson. Hello. Yes, I forgot we had to hit one Our time will be up. Well, I hit one and nothing happened. What's going on? Well, just go ahead and talk, that's all. Are you sure? Yeah. Don't they usually tell you to say something? I don't think so. Oh. Uh-huh. Okay,
we're supposed to talk about lawn and garden. Yes, I'm, I'm supposed to find out what you do for your lawn and garden. What do I do? Uh-huh. Well, I, uh, I cut it occasionally. Good. Uh-huh, you're ahead of me. Is, uh, is that good? Okay. That's better. And I edge it occasionally. Oh, that's really good. Yeah, see, am I good, or what? Yeah. And, uh, Uh, much beyond that I don't do I don't do any of that. Really,
well, I call my lawn man, Eric, whatever his name is, I can't remember. Who's going to come and build me a fence, too. Uh-huh. Oh, he is going to build you a fence. Well, he's giving me an estimate. Uh-huh. And for ten dollars a week, I don't see any reason for me to be doing it. What, for a fence? Oh, well, I thought, isn't he the same one? he is. Yeah. Yeah, but ten dollars, or what what does he charge, not even that. What does he charge me? Well, my, I don't know. It's like next to nothing. it's ten because I, it's forty a month. Yeah. But if there's five weeks, I still pay forty.
Yeah, but you know, you ought to get him to pull the weeds. Well, he won't pull weeds. He says he'll spray them, but he won't pull them. Oh. Uh, he won't cut them is what he won't do. Because he said with the rocks that it's too dangerous for him to take the, the trimmer over the rocks Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh. and he's right. Yeah. That's true. But he just says to keep spraying them so, Well so, Anyway, Gene sprayed them once or twice for me so that was real, Yeah, so you haven't, you haven't pulled any weeds lately? No.
No. There are two out front I thought I'd grab one of these days, but I haven't bothered as I walk on by. Yeah. I started to pull the weeds in the rocks out front Uh-huh. and all of a sudden I came cross this big clump of weeds and there was dog dirt in it Oh, oh, goody. and I threw the gloves in the trash bag that was out there and I left the whole thing and that was about a month ago. I thought you were going to say there I thought you were going to say there was a snake in the weeds I would rather a snake, no Oh, God, oh I just left the whole thing. The bag is still out there because I haven't touched it. Yeah.
I haven't gone back over there. It really made me mad. Oh, God. So anyway but, But, uh, how are your, your flowers, your little things you planted? Did they die or what? Oh, yeah, now they died. Oh, they're all, so they, oh, are they going to come back in the spring? I don't know. Oh. I don't know, and then I got some nice, uh, mums at Thanksgiving that I put in the pots out there Uh-huh. and I thought they were supposed to live through all the cold weather. Yeah. They looked real pretty until about a week before Christmas, then they started to die, too.
Oh. So, I don't think any of it comes back but I don't know, Yeah. maybe these, sometimes things do that aren't even supposed to. I don't know, uh, So, Those flowers, remember those little ones you gave me? Yeah. Yeah, well, they're, I know they were still blooming up until about a, a few weeks ago. Really? Yeah. Well, that's good. They're the best kind. Yeah they, They're really pretty. They, they're like indestructible. They really grow nice
and sometimes, they're not supposed to come back, but lots of times they do. Uh-huh. So, Yeah We'll see. They're letting us have a lot of time on this aren't they? Yeah, I mean isn't it supposed to be five minutes? But that's because we didn't hit one for a long time. We didn't disconnect, did we I hope not Neither one of us is getting paid for this. Boy, I hate to think I hate to think I'd be talking to you without getting paid Yeah, really, I know it. I can't believe this. I got somebody from Utah and somebody, What?
Uh-huh. where was the person last night was from far away. You're kidding? Really? And we get each other down the street. This is so funny. Well, the, uh, I, I talked to someone woman from Oklahoma City and some woman from Dallas and that was it. Yeah, I've had Dallas, Arlington. I've had, uh, one Plano and then a lady from Brigham, Utah whose son lives in Plano on Ranier someplace. And then, uh, another state, Uh-huh. Wow. Really? I can't remember, but she told me about the Utah Jazz, we talked about basketball. Oh, really And I don't remember what, what the place was last night,
but I'm thinking Colorado, Yeah. but I'm not sure I'd know the place, anyway. Uh-huh. So, I don't know, But mostly they're from the area. Yeah. It, Well, there isn't really much to talk about as far as lawn and garden goes. Not for me. Not for me either. You know, not not for me because all I have is rocks and weeds. What do I, Yeah, but I don't, you know, I, what do I do, cut it one, you know, and, and edge it and that's about it. I know.
What do I do with it? I know, we're not typical Texans. No. What's going on, are they going to tell us to stop or what I don't know, I hope so. Come on, come on. Isn't it five minutes? I don't know. I, I mean, I'm all talked out about gardens. I know. Well, we can talk about something else. It's just a suggested topic. Oh, oh, it's just suggested? So, how's the baby, do you think What? How's the,
We could talk, Let's talk about the baby. Let's talk about the baby. Do you want to tell me about your budgeting plan? Yeah, our budgeting plan includes me getting a job We're, we're at the point now, I I quit working about six months ago to start this house Uh-huh. and I'm out of cash and I'm not out of project yet. Oh, no. So, uh, I'm going to go back and do some consulting work. As far as budget's concerned, I'm, I'm fairly fortunate. Uh, we've, we're right now where if we don't buy anything extra, we can make it on what my wife makes. So, you know, the project's kind of halted until then. But as far as budgeting is concerned, you know, we have, uh, some pretty strict guidelines that we go for, you know, we always put ten percent back, and that's a never touch. Uh, into savings. Yeah.
Oh. Either savings or investment, one of the two, but we don't ever put it in a high risk. It's just always going to be there. Well, that's pretty good. And as far as the rest of it's concerned, we don't have any kind of, uh, what I would call extravagant expenses, you know, we, uh, we pretty much live on about eight, nine hundred a month, you know, just travel to and from work and clothing and food Boy, that's pretty good. and the rest of it, you know, we pile into the house. And, uh, you know, I'm fairly fortunate. I mean, our credit cards are out to the max right now because I'm a little behind on that, Sure. but, uh, we're still making the payments on them. It's just, when you, see in Texas you cannot borrow the money to build your own home and do it yourself. Yeah, it's, it's tough here too. You have to have the contractor sign with you. Right, exactly.
But it's easy to find a contractor for a couple of hundred bucks who'll sign it and let you do it Yeah. , where I live, that is. And where I live, it, it's pretty scary, because Texas is one of those strange states where if you have a contractor sign on your note like that and you screw up, you don't get it finished, Uh-huh. the bank can eat the contractor. Oh, bad for him, huh. Yeah, bad for him. But, the homeowner can't be touched. Um. It's a homestead state. Is that right? Yeah, see right now if I quit paying any of my bills, the only thing they could do is cut off electricity. They can't take your land unless you don't pay your land taxes. Period. Wow. You know. They can take your car and your clothes and your, anything that's not the tools of your trade,
but as far as, uh, you know you're pretty much bullet proof in this state. Well, that's kind of handy. Yeah. I just finished James Michener's TEXAS book. Uh-huh. Pretty interesting. Uh-huh. Texas has quite the history. Well, you know, we're, we're not ones to budget much, you know We just going to spend it all. That's kind of what we do. We, uh, we're L D S and so we pay ten percent tithing Uh-huh. Uh-huh. and then, you know, we put I guess it's like fifteen to twenty percent into a savings account. Uh-huh. But that sometimes we use for emergency type things. Yeah. But, uh, and my wife doesn't work.
We're fortunate that way, that I make enough to do what we want to do. Yeah, yeah, we're pretty, pretty fortunate as far as the, uh, the budgeting is concerned, because, you know, we don't have any long term debt. You know, uh, we paid cash for car. Well, we bought the car on time, one of them, but we, you know, we since paid it off. Well that's pretty. The land is paid for cash, so we don't have to worry about that. That's a great position to be in. Well, it's fraught with other problems Is that right? Yeah, I'm not very motivated Oh What kind of consulting do you do? Uh, systems consulting. Computerization for construction firms. Is that right? Yeah.
I'm into computers, too. I I'm a E D P auditor. Right. Oh. And. You into mainframes? and P C s. oh really? Yeah. I'm just brushing up on, well, C plus plus. Are you really? Uh-huh. And, I just got that a few days ago. Three oh? Oh, gees, don't get me to lying. I bought it at a fire sale. Oh. This guy's place burned down,

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