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And it'd be refreshing once in a while to hear some good news. Right And, uh. and I, I think there's an attempt to do that. You know, I think people, there's a mild attempt for that, but I think basically, we basically associate news with bad news or, or catastrophes or problems or crises, or, uh, you know. Yes, we do....
Uh-huh. and go after, you know, it's lot easy to go after and follow a fire department or a police officer, and, uh, find out news from that as opposed to going out and finding good things, so. I don't know, I guess the economy is, is effecting also the news media Uh-huh. and we have to pay that price, but, uh, I don't...
I mean, you know, that was just so phenomenal to see this stadium shake and the, and the announcers, you know grabbing, Uh-huh. I mean, it's like, that was just something because that was like live and real like you said, Oh, yeah. Yeah. and then, of course, one thing I think, too, is with Okay, Mike, I guess we'll be ...
No, we did it ourselves, did it myself. Did you enjoy that? Yeah. Oh, that's, that's fun. We just recently, uh, had our boys' room, our two oldest boys share a room, and they're, uh, the paint has, uh, kind of faded and deteriorated, and so we decided to paint their room and put up wallpaper and border and so forth, an...
I don't think it's sun exposure, but, uh, boys will be boys, and there, there were crayon marks on there and we had to, to scrub the crayon marks off, of course, try and get it clean. Oh, okay, yeah. Latex paint? Pardon me? Latex? Yes it was. It was latex paint, and that's, uh, what we put back on there, was a latex pa...
And, uh, you scrub and you scrub, but you can't it all off. No, that's true. And so, that's one of the reasons why we painted, and, uh. Did you go, what kind of paint did you use on the ceiling? We used a flat, latex paint Okay. and in the bedroom, as I understand, that's, uh, one of the better type of paints to have b...
Yeah. Right. Huh. You had pretty good luck with one coat type paint? You use a particular brand or anything? Well, I like to use this, this Sears, uh, the ten year guarantee or the fifteen year guarantee. Weather beater type stuff? Yeah. Yeah. And the reason being is once I painted, I don't want to have to go and do it...
Yeah, it's a lot like, uh, wall paper. That's true. And, uh, did you have any problems with that or, Well, the particular bathroom that we did is a half bath, so we didn't have a problem with that. Oh, good. Uh, I have had, I've, uh, have never experienced that type of a problem uh, with a latex paint. Uh-huh. Oh, good...
Uh, used oil base paints for trim you know, like around doors and, and on doors, things like that. Uh-huh. why do you use that? I'm, I'm kind of learning at this, new at this, but. It adheres better, or lasts longer? Uh, primarily because it, it seems to be a little more, uh, well, let's say well, not so much that. It ...
where does she live? Uh, on Rutherford. Rutherford. I don't know that. It's, uh, corner of New York uh, just west of Mayfield. Uh-huh. It's, oh, oh, south and, okay, yeah, I know where you, I know the area. Uh. Right, that's kind of on the other side of town, so our kids probably never went to school together or anythi...
Whether it is possible to have an honest government. I'm beginning to think it's not. What about you? I, I don't think under the way the system is right now, it is. I don't either. I, I think, uh, even if people have good intentions, I think uh, power corrupts or something to a certain extent, you know. The ultimate po...
We had, uh, here in Oklahoma we had a few years ago a major, uh, corruption on, on our county commissioners Uh-huh. and there were several counties, uh, including the one I was in, that lost every one of their county commissioners and, I mean, it was to the point of not just losing their job, but going to jail. Oh, my ...
In other words, they'd go out and have a big, lavish dinner and then put somebody's name down that they supposedly had entertained, but that person wasn't even anywhere near there, you know. Some of them weren't even in the same city. One of them had, had cancer and died and I mean, that was our biggest scandal for the...
I just, uh, I'd like to believe that there is some way that our political people would really go there and look out for our interests. Right. I think that's what upsets me worse than, that they're getting a little, you know, uh, on the side that, that, it seems that when they get up there it's, it's what, if I vote yo...
and then you think, well, if it was longer terms then they would never have to try to please the people at home Uh-huh. That's true. Boy, it is a big problem, but I think most people are kind of depressed and cynical about government now, don't you? I don't think that they, anyone has a lot of respect or faith in the g...
Uh, in fact, I don't watch hardly any, uh, television at all with, uh, my other activities. Uh, between my family and my church et cetera, et cetera, well I don't have time, I hardly any time to sit down and watch the news. Right. Now I do watch the Discover channel and some on channel thirteen but, uh, aside from asid...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. But, uh, and my kids are all sort of movie watchers. You know, we, we've always been to a lot of, we've always gone to a lot of movies in our life. So, but I would just as soon, uh, be doing something else, it's just that my kids are gone now, and, and my wife's a school teacher and sometimes, and she d...
Well, that's an interesting channel. Oh, you bet, in fact I'm glad that it's part of our, uh, basic cable package. That's great. But, uh, You know, I've, I've just never spent any time watching it and, you know I like my sports and everything Uh-huh. but I, Oh, oh, me too. Hello Watch my Dallas Cowboys. I watched them ...
and I'm not sure that the Eagles are not. Yeah, the Eagles I did. yeah luck into it now, I think. Yeah, that's true. Cowboys, they earned it on their own merit. Well. Did you know, everybody, or not everybody but quite a few of the folks were kind of down on Mister Johnson, but, uh, he's, uh, he's brought the pokes, uh...
He wanted to go out a winner though. I think he would have stayed there four or five more years until he could have gone out Yeah, that's true, and I wouldn't, I wouldn't have blamed him one bit because Oh, no, it's, you know he earned his stripes. yeah, but, see, nobody remembers him as a loser because he's too, he's ...
and I know he's being a little hardnosed about it but, uh, you know, this ring of honor thing, you know, he needs to be there because he's earned it. Uh-huh. He deserves it, and he was the Dallas Cowboys, and he won't do that yet. Yes. So. I hope he makes up his mind to do it, because he needs to be remembered. Oh, he ...
you betcha. I'm not a native Texan by birth but, uh, I guess if I, uh, length of, length of time I'm in the state now, is what, after you're here twenty years you're considered native. You bet. I've been here since seventy-four, and I feel like a native. Well, let's see, I came down March of sixty-nine, went to work fo...
It's a great place to raise our kids, and I've got my last kid graduating from college this next December Uh-huh. she's getting married the month before in November, so Oh, goodness. I will have finished, be finished with that. Well, we're well, we're finished with all but the last one, and trying to get him through hi...
Well, I enjoy my T V programs. I like those, I like those detective programs. I like everything. I can watch Bill Cosby because I think he has a great show. Well. Do you have, uh, some strong feelings one way or the other about, about the care of the elderly? Well, yes, I do. Uh, this is a, a question that hit pretty c...
and then, uh, he died in a hospital. But, um, I think that, my position is that, uh, you need to find one that you can really have confidence that they are taking care of the, of the, uh, of their clients Yes. and, um, because I've heard about the many abuses, and because he had heard of so many abuses, he just didn't ...
exactly. Yeah, and, and did, did you experience that with your, with your father or not? Uh, we had a, at one stage we had care somewhat like, like what you're talking about. We had the Visiting Nurses program Uh-huh. and they sent somebody in, and it, it was a, a nominal charge that this, uh, it started out that the l...
Oh. And, uh, but, yes, I agree there's a lot of options. There could be a lot of options. Uh-huh. I think it's time that, uh, we decide to do something about it. Yeah. Um. Definitely. You know, one of the other subjects on the switchboard, and this is one that I've been thinking applies here, uh, where, where, uh, youn...
Uh, the mobility factor, the factor that, uh, oh, we're living longer and people are less trusting, all these things tend to destroy this type of system. But I agree with you, there might be some possibilities there. Uh-huh. Although dealing with geriatrics is something a lot of young people just aren't emotionally pre...
a big chunk of it's word processing. We're also taking programming classes, and, uh, so there's a fair amount of programming getting done on it. But, uh, uh, the, uh, right now we got a project going where we're trying to put, uh, all my wife's stray recipes on the disk. Nice. Did you buy a program to handle menus? Uh,...
Computers. Uh, impoverished college student. Oh, no. This one went on a credit card, and we got a way out, while to pay it off yet. Uh, I've, I've got one at home too. It's a three eighty-six, thirty-three megahertz, forty, four meg ram and hundred and thirty meg drive and super V G A and, yeah, it's fun. I do programm...
Uh, what are you studying in college computers? Uh. Computer engineering. How nice. Well, computer engineering technology, uh, which, uh, all I can understand is it's a slightly more hands on version of computer engineering. But, I've got a ways to go yet. So far most of what I've done is getting, gotten core classes...
Now how you'd implement that software wise or mechanically I don't know, but, uh, it sounds like a very impressive piece of, piece of work. Yeah, they're pretty amazing. Uh, I've written a couple of programs for, commercially, uh Yes. and it's a fun field. In the fuzzy logic direction? What, no, in, uh, no, just regula...
Uh-huh. And you're going to be an engineer, computer engineer type. Uh, yeah, well, what the computer, what the C E T program seems to be so far is just a broad based specialized from, you get programming, a fair amount of programming, you get hardware, you get, uh, more or less, uh, you get basic electronics courses t...
Oh, okay. So you do do recycling there? Yeah, Richardson has, uh, well, they have a newspaper pick up once a week supposedly, if it's not raining. Uh-huh. And they also have a couple of areas where you can take, uh, cans, plastic and paper, to, uh, you know, dump them off there if you don't, uh, want to wait and have a...
but it's not here. Um. So they're not picking up anything Oh. So, I mean, we, we collect everything We've got all these boxes in our garage for, you know, green glass and clear glass and plastic and everything. Where do you take them? Well, there's, there's a couple places. Unfortunately, we can't find a place that wil...
Um. Drop things off one at a time, but, uh, and it's kind of disappointing, I mean, I would even be happy if they just had one, you know, one place where you could do everything. You know, it would still be more convenient than what we have now. One of the people from my department, I think used to take a lot of the st...
Yeah. And a lot of times they take them over to one of these can banks. Yeah, I've seen those. You don't get too much money back. I figure it pays for the gas to take my cans over there. Yeah. But normally I collect, oh, like three trash bags full Yeah. and I take them over to that can bank and it's more fun just to ki...
but, uh, I think that, you know, I heard that it was going well in the pilot area wherever that is and so hopefully they'll do it soon. Uh-huh. That would be good because we have two trash pick ups a week Uh-huh. and, where I grew up we only had one a week and that was certainly sufficient. So if they just do, one of t...
I'm not really sure why they're not always consistent in that. Um. But I could certainly have, uh, three bins out there for, you know, plastic and and tin and paper, whatever they were going to, uh, separate into and, and have them pick it up on, on one of the two days per week. Right. That would be easy. Yeah. Do you ...
at first they said, They said, no telephone books. So do I. Yeah. You know, well, that's stupid and then they said no newspapers. Um. Well, in the, my department everybody gets the WALL STREET JOURNAL. Yeah. There was like a lot of paper coming out of our department that wasn't recyclable. Yeah. So I thought that was p...
Ooh. And it worked out really well. Well, we had the one person who used to take things to the Dallas Shelter. Uh-huh. I think that's what that was called. Uh-huh. She collected, she used to collect from the whole department, but she took them all down to that Dallas Shelter place. Uh-huh. I wish I could remember the w...
you got any hobbies that you want to talk about? Well, I, uh, don't seem to have as much spare time as I used to, but, I guess I'll have to say my computer has probably taken the place of most of my hobbies. What in the world do you do with your computer that takes so much time? Well, I sit and design cards Oh, really?...
Oh, that's good. Well, I guess It's, uh, to high school kids, it's, uh, alternative learning Uh-huh. and, uh, it's, it's really a challenge, but. What hobbies do you have? Well, I, uh, play trombone in the Plano Community Band. Ooh, neat. And I, uh, like to do a lot of bicycling when the weather allows, and during summ...
Oh, okay. I, I play that about six times a year and every year I hang my bag up if I get that five or six and I swear, swear that game off for another year, but I always go back to it Oh, I, uh, oh, I take spells, I'm, I'm kind of a compulsive obsessive person and when I start something, I, I go into it a thousand perc...
I call on people in . My business is, uh, machine tool sales, and I have some, I, I cover Texas and Oklahoma. Oh, okay. So, I, what I said that I wasn't being real facetious about that. I got customers in Oklahoma City and Tulsa and Perry, Oklahoma and Eda and all that, all that way. Oh, how neat. So you do quite a bi...
and, you know, various people in the communities want us to play for things, but those are usually on the weekend, so that isn't too bad. How big is your band? Well, we got, uh, pretty good size band. Not everybody shows up, but if everyone did we'd probably have over a hundred but we only average about forty to fifty ...
They don't necessarily follow that any more, you know, that isn't necessarily their career, but, uh, we have some extremely good talent in there, and, uh, as a rule, it sounds pretty decent, so It's fun. I, I have absolutely no musical ability whatsoever, and I'm always very envious of people who do. Well, I don't know...
Well what is this going to do the insurance companies who are supporting this work now and hopefully are doing, uh, a good job? Well, it's going to make it tough for them and it's going to be a difficult transition. I don't know, uh, how it's going to, uh, play out in terms of the particulars, but I don't think that so...
Yes and that is what is giving the local, uh, insurance companies hard times. That is the one thing we have no control over are these charges that happen when you go to hospitals and you get something done and they want to charge twenty thousand dollars for it. Right. Well, this I think is one of the things that nation...
but it's begun to change all of that. The people paying the bills, uh, employers ultimately, have begun to squawk because they have seen their health care cost rise two hundred percent in the past ten years. Yeah. So, I think the evolution will be interesting. Uh, Hawaii has a system that is apparently working and, uh,...
I don't, uh, I would like to see the greatest improvement in management. My, my, my field is the cognitive sciences and I recognize that a lot of these things that are done, are done, uh, as a function of the operating systems in place. And those operating systems have to change and and as we become more efficient in d...
But like, uh, I lived in Oakland, uh, until just recently Uh-huh. and, uh, Oakland, California, God, they've had like, uh, sixty-seven murders so far this year compared to like, uh, forty at this time last year. Yeah. So it's really bad there. Yeah. And, and it's all related to drugs it seems like. Oh, yeah. Is that wh...
Yeah. and it's, it, it's pretty bad. They're, they're, it's, things have basically improved here over the last few years. They've, they've actually taken steps to try to make it better but it still, it still is a problem. Yeah. Like I don't know what they can do to make it better unless they just hire more policemen. W...
Well I, I think that if they would do something to these people that they do catch instead of just slapping their little hands Right. and, you know, then maybe those other people would be kind of scared and they would not do these bad things, you know. Yeah, I think, I think that, uh, it's, uh, seems to be that, I don'...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. But I don't know. It's a difficult situation I think and some, something has to be done because I definitely think it's, it, it really plays, reeks havoc with your quality of life when, you know, you can see it's going on around you but then when, once it finally affects you then, then it really starts ...
Right. But down here, in Patterson, well like I say, it's so small that you can go anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, that's good . But just, uh, like twenty miles away see in Modesto, they have, uh, those gangs and things over there. Right. And it, it's bad. In Sacramento also, they have, uh, drive by shootings it seems like all t...
Yeah, I mean like even, even going to the grocery store. I know we've had this one lady that was attacked, you know. Right, right. I mean, just, you just, you just don't know what to do anymore, you know. Right. And some of the times it's happening in the daytime too, you know, so it's not always happening at dark. Yea...
or but I, I and I'm don't, rarely listen to the, uh, radio so I get most of my news like from documentaries like FORTY-EIGHT HOURS, TWENTY TWENTY, you know, the news at night. News in the afternoon, that kind of thing. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well I get a, weekend paper as well and, uh, in addition to that I get a local weekly...
but I can run my radio in my office. I, I teach at the university Oh. and when I'm not teaching, if I choose to have the radio on I can listen to that station, Oh. so. Uh-huh. Oh, I see. Uh, How are you, are you satisfied with the TWENTY TWENTY and FORTY-EIGHT HOURS and the things that you do watch? Yeah. I, I, I pret...
And that's so, that, that's different for me. So I usually find out exactly when it happens and that kind of thing. Is that the aspect of the news that you're most interested in is, is the timely noting of the events as they happen? Is that what you feel good about in the news coverage? Uh, no it just seems like since ...
Huh. So. Uh, there's, there is some danger to that, of course, too. Because if the analysis is inaccurate or biased or whatever then, you know, how good is it. But, uh, I like a little more indepth coverage and I think that's what you're, maybe appealing to you too on something like TWENTY TWENTY or FORTY-EIGHT HOURS. ...
I know what you're saying. Yeah. So. But I try and catch most of those programs on Wednesday's and Friday's and if I miss them, I try you know, I try and, and tape them if I'm out that kind of thing, I try and tape them and so I can sit back and watch them. And it's pretty interesting. When, you have young children, ri...
Uh, it seems like ten o'clock at night Uh-huh. Yes. Yeah, that's what, Unfortunately, but that, that's what it seems like, ten o'clock at night. I have older children and getting dinner on the table. Uh-huh I come from the east coast and I was, it amazed me when I got out here to the midwest and found out that even tho...
but California we just put somebody to death uh, for, I think it was a double murder. Uh-huh. Uh, to be honest, I didn't pay that much attention, uh, to the details of it. Uh, but it had a lot of controversy out here. Uh, basically, because in California people like to protest about everything. Uh, but I agree, I belie...
and you should be able to either put the guy to death or he's innocent. I mean it's, if he's guilty for, for, you know, multiple murders or whatever the case may be you know. Right. Uh-huh. Well maybe that's something that needs to be worked on. Yeah. But I, I just feel that, that capital punishment needs to stay with...
and, and the court found him competent, uh, and he knew what he was doing and everything else. I mean you know, it was, it was the best defense they could come up with. Yeah. And how long had he been appealing How long was that? I forget. I think it was something like twelve years or something. Gosh. Boy. It was, it wa...
it's kind of like the, the justice system in the United States is kind of like the dog poops on the carpet and you wait three months and then you put his nose in it and spank him for it. You know. Yeah. I mean there, there's no connection between the two. Right, right. Yeah. I mean you take these, you know, most of the...
and we're wondering if that has an effect. If that, if something, does capital punishment, you know, does it happen with that, within that, uh, I don't know Uh, you mean, would he be put to death for that? Right. Uh, largely depends on the circumstances and generally, you know, from what I understand, it's, it's only t...
and, um, we do have, uh, a group of attorneys who handle our environmental issues. Uh-huh. And I don't know too much about the air pollution thing. I do know for other types of pollution like the toxic waste and such that T I has to dispose of that we normally put in the ground, you know, we're coming up with a, uh, a ...
Uh, what we run into, um, is we have the Texas Air Control Board, T A C B, that send out, uh, jurisdictions under which we have to, uh, uh, reply to. Uh-huh. And a lot of their rules and regulation aren't real clear, so we have our manager of environmental, who assist the T A C B, which is located in Austin, in writing...
Um. So it's a full time, uh, everybody has their home phone number type of job. Um, Now is that place built or you're still on the makings of it? The Sherman facility, we are still in the, closer too, but still have a little bit of, um, finalization to do. Right. It's been pitched to the Sherman City Council with, um, ...
It will have something coming out of the stackhouse it was, it was human nature. Right. But it won't have can any, uh, any bad stuff. So, uh, I think T I, we spend, of all the major semiconductor firms, we probably put safety and environmental on the utmost, foremost, uh, uh, first thing we always look at. And we proba...
There, there was one site that they cleaned up and then the new place leaked again. . Yeah. I'm familiar with that one. We have, we have stuff that's very interesting, uh, we have hoods, we have duckwork and all those type of interesting pieces of equipment where, um, they have, um, that we sample Uh-huh. and it may ha...
I think some of the folks that aren't aware of it will be surprised at how much effort and energy is put into doing that. I really would. Um, I've enjoyed speaking with you, Yeah. This has been an interesting topic. Uh, I was one of the, I was responsible for all the planning and engineering over the corporate, or in t...
Well, the, uh, I think what changed everything and, uh, is, uh, y'all were, y'all were the only ones that make any money for TI, here in the last ten years, We, finally got a little respect. Nobody thought of us as a profit center before. Exactly. And that's, um, when, when you start, when you start paying your way, uh...
and you, you let the chicken you fried kind of drain, so that a lot of the oil comes out of it Uh-huh. And then you, you, uh, pour most of the, all of the oil out of the pan and you kind of clean it out and you put back maybe two tablespoons full of the oil and saute some, um, bell peppers and onions in, in that little...
and then if you like it really hot, you can add some hot, hot peppers and hot sauce and all that kind of stuff. Oh, that sounds really good. Yeah. Huh. I guess it was, is this dinner time for you? Uh, well it will be in a little while, I'm trying to get it, get it ready early. All done in advance, yeah. That's um, I, u...
What kind of wok do you have, is it, is it a real Chinese wok. It's, it's called a stir fry pan and it, and it fits right on your, uh, it fits right on your burner, whether it's gas or electric so it's, it has a flatter bottom than a normal wok does. Uh-huh. I see. And, um, normally what what we do is, um, just, you kn...
but, uh, she likes to watch all the, how much red meat and things, so. We'll do, a lot of times vegetarian. Yeah. But it's a real good meal because you have squash and broccoli and, uh, carrots and celery and green peppers and, um, oh, gee, mushrooms. Oh that's, That sounds real good except the squash, It's, it's a pre...
and Pittsburgh is a very meat and potato town. Uh-huh. Yeah, recipes in Pittsburgh consisted of red meat and a potato. Uh-huh. Red meat and a potato. Oh, that sounds good. We, we were from North Carolina and we had a garden and my mother would, would, uh, grow the squash and she'd grow white potatoes and onions and cab...
No, but I, I've, I've heard stories uh, I've heard stories. And they put the head under a tin tub and chop the head off. Uh. And then you hear the chicken jumping around under the tub and finally it dies down, you get just a little patter and then it, Oh, this is you shouldn't be talking about this right before, while ...
but it was funny, you know, it so, but when we got married, you know, a lot more vegetables, a lot more, you know, a lot of changes. Well that's good. A lot of people are eating healthier now a days. I think so too, Yeah. but we just went shopping and we came back with, uh, with, uh, sweets, you know, chocolate covered...
Ugh. Yeah, that was a sweet and I was like ugh. This is a sweet. Oh it is, it's a candy, I'm like ugh, you know, Indian candy is not very good. Uh, right. But everything was, and everything, you didn't notice it at first, but everything was sort of hot. Everything had a little bit of curry in it. The spice, yeah. It wa...
Yeah. Good, they didn't have, I didn't like her desserts very well, they were very, yogurt and carrots and pistachios, pistachio nuts and yogurt. Uh-huh. And it wasn't very good. Well I might have liked some of that I, I like hot stuff, Uh-huh. I really do. Yeah, well have we done our ten minutes. Oh is it ten minutes....
and they say you've overextended your, your conversation. Oh, well this is my first one. Oh, okay well that's, you'll see it will normally, it will come on and it'll say you've over extended your conversation, you now have fifteen minutes to fifteen seconds to complete it. Oh wow. But, uh, I've been cut off twice. Uh-h...
hey thanks so much. Yeah, thank you, it was nice talking with you. Uh-huh, and you said this was your well you'll, you'll get a couple more probably. Yeah. I, uh, I called yesterday, I, or Friday, maybe I talked to somebody that, uh, I got them on, uh, during the day. It was a housewife and she was home with two kids. ...
Okay. Hey thanks a lot, I'll talk to you later. All right, thank you, bye-bye. Bye. Okay, so, uh, do you own a P C? Um, no, not personally but, But you have one at work. Yes, uh-huh, Yeah, several Okay, and, now because, um, see I'm, I'm doing my, uh, Master's in Computer Science and Computer Engineering.
Uh-huh. And, um, and I, I don't have one, but I have to use them, like during, especially during my undergrad. Right. Uh-huh. You, you use, um, like your first couple of years you use personal computers because, uh, you know, the software. You know, like it's easier for you to go to and run a program, you know, through...
And, that, that's been my situation, is that, uh, that way I can get in, access our, uh, computers that I have up here and, you know, do work from home. But does it have, uh, like, a disk drive? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh, okay, because, uh, the ones that we use, you know, are like UNIX base systems. Right. Uh-huh. ...
Yeah, no I, um, I, I have both, because that, that's what I use all the time is UNIX Systems. Um, versus the DOS. But then I teach DOS classes, uh, at night. Oh, okay. Uh-huh, part time. So, And then you also have to do all your grading on the P C. Well, that, that's the really neat thing, I teach in the continuing edu...
Yeah. Right. Due, due to the fact that, well, you know, I, I haven't tested the, the P S two yet. Um, um. Uh-huh. but I don't know if the software is as easily, you know, like you can manage it a lot easier than, than the old one. Right. The old one you had to go pick a line, use little arrows to go onto the screen and...
And, so, the whole page you, you never can actually see it, Oh. you just draw it and they have to zoom out and zoom in and, you know, it's like, every time that you have to do something is, it's really a pain. What a hassle, yeah, yeah. And, also, you know, it's like for, for presentations, it's like if you have to do ...
Right. You can see what the trend is over the years. Yeah. And, I love all the windows that they have out now too, Yeah, that, that they have really simplified things. I, I had a, I had a program due and uh, one, one window I had the program and the other one I had the program running. so if there was ever a mistake, I...
After you load it up change it, hope that's right, get out of that, run the program, run, uh-huh, as long as it took, and then go back and see if that worked or not. Yes. Yes. Yeah. But with windows you can have the program and say it messed up in line fifty-four. Yeah. So, you take a look at line fifty-four, you take ...
I sure did. And, when was this. Uh, I graduated in eighty-six. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's been fairly recent. Yeah, I know because, uh, all I know is that when I came here in eighty-seven, they still had, uh, it was the last year to, to put all your punch cards in. The cards. Oh, oh dear. I didn't have to bother with that...
wow. and that's about it. Uh-huh, wow. So. But, I mean, the price of computers has gone down. They said that, um, if the auto industry would have kept the same trend as the computer industry has ever since, you know, it started, they said that, uh, cars would cost two dollars Uh-huh. and they would run forever. Oh, tha...
Oh, sure, oh, sure. and now you can get it, you know, like for, one thousand dollars, because, you know, because of the parts basically. Right. Yeah, and the two eighty-six too, so, yeah. Yeah. The parts and the labor is what they're charging you, they're not charging you, you know, over pricing, it because it's like, ...
they're trying to get out small computers, but, the only problem was that when they took that one out, the small computer was the I B M P C And, so, you couldn't, you know, it's like, sure bring out. into the market something that's smaller when nobody uses anything that's smaller than, you know, this, you know. Yeah. ...
And, uh, have a good lunch. Thanks. Bye. All right, bye, bye. All right. Now, we used to be big time campers but now we're not quite so much since the kids are involved so much in sports. Uh-huh. What type of camping did you do? Well when we, before we had kids, we was in a motorcycle group, you know, Uh-huh. we went l...
So, we've always enjoyed camping. Uh-huh. Well, I know I have, um, I just have a tent, and the kids and I like to go out and camp in the tent. Uh-huh. And then I bought a van and that way I can sleep in the van and be more comfortable yes. Now we have friends with a van, Uh-huh. and when they go on vacation a lot of ti...

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