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From: vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent Fox)
Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card
Organization: Deep Thirteen, Gizmonics Institute
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In <93104.173826U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
[deleted]
[] And as far as fully-automatic weapons, you can be a lot better
[]armed if you want to hit what you aim at.
[]
>What seems to be happening here is the situation getting totally blown out of
>proportion. In my post I was referring to your regular patrolman in a car
>cruising around the city vs. gang members. Of course the police have access
>to the things that you mentioned but do they use tanks and such all of the
>time? Of course they don't and that's the point I was trying to make. Every
>day when I go out to lunch I always see cops coming in. The majority that I
>see are still carrying revolvers. Not that there is anything wrong with a
>revolver but if you're a cop that is up against some gang member with a couple
>of automatics in his coat (I mean semi-auto handguns) you're going to be at a
>disadvantage even with training. I have been at a shooting range where gang
>gang members were "practicing" shooting. They were actually practicing
>taking out their guns as quick as possible and shooting at the target
>and they weren't doing too badly either. The University cops here (who are
>are state cops) are armed better than the Chicago police. It seems most
>state cops are.
Define "armed better". Go shoot a revolver and a semi-auto like the
Colt .45. Does one fires faster than the other? Nope. Aside from which
faster rate of fire is usually not desirable. Sure it makes the other
guys duck for cover, but just *YOU* trying hitting anything with a Thompson
in hose-mode. This is why the military is limiting it's M-16 now to
3-round burst-fire. Simple semi-auto would be better, but the troops
like to be able to rock and roll even if it is wasteful of ammo (something
often in short supply when the enemy is plentiful).
A revolver is equally capable as a semi-auto in the same caliber.
- A revolver also has the advantage that if it misfires you just pull
the trigger again.
- A double-action revolver (almost all of them) can be hand-cocked first,
but will fire merely by pulling the trigger.
- A misfire in a revolver merely means you must pull the trigger again
to rotate to the next round.
- A revolver can be carried with the 6th chamber empty and under the
hammer for maximum safety, but still can be drawn and fired with an
easy motion, even one handed.
- Speedloaders for a revolver allow reloads almost as fast as magazines
on semi-autos. Can be faster depending on users.
- A misfire in a semi-auto will require you to clear a jammed shell
first, time spent which can be fatal. And a vital second or so is often
lost as you realize "hey, it's jammed!" before starting to do anything
about clearing it.
- Most semi-autos must have the slide worked to chamber the first round
and cock the hammer. Some police carry their semi-autos with the
chamber loaded and hammer cocked, but a safety engaged. I do not consider
this safe however. You must trade-off safety to get the same speed
of employment as a revolver.
- There are some double-action semi-autos out there, but the complexity of
operation of many of them requires more training.
Some police departments switched to Glocks, and then started quietly
switching many officers back to the old revolvers. Too many were having
accidents, partly due to the poor training they received. Not that Glocks
require rocket scientists, but some cops are baffled by something as complex
as the timer on a VCR.
Anyone who goes anyone saying that the criminals obviously outgun
the police don't know nothing about firearms. Turn off COPS and Hunter
and pay attention. I do not seek here to say "semi-autos are junk"
merely that assuming they are better for all jobs is stupid. A cop
with a revolver on his hip and a shotgun in the rack is more than
equipped for anything short of a riot.
Gun control is hitting what you aim at. If you whip out a
wonder-nine and fire real fast you may find you don't hit anything.
Good controlled fire from a revolver is more likely to get you a hit.
I own a 9mm Beretta myself but consider it inferior as a carry weapon
to something like the Ruger Security Six revolver. If I haven't hit
what I'm aiming at in the first 5 shots, something is quite seriously
wrong somewheres. While I might like having the backup capacity of those
extra shots in certain cases, overwhelmingly the # of shots fired in
criminal encounters is less than 5.
What do crooks overwhelmingly use in crime? Why the same nice simple
.38 revolvers that the police often use. Well actually some police
prefer the much heftier .357 Magnum, but anyway.....
ObPlea: Don't flame me, I prefer semi-autos for most things. But they
introduce unneccessary complications to something as nerve-wracking
as an abrupt encounter with a lone criminal.
--
"If everything had gone as planned, everything would have been perfect."
-BATF spokesperson on CNN 3/2/93, regarding failed raid attempt in TX.
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From: adykes@jpradley.jpr.com (Al Dykes)
Subject: help: How to reduce the RPMs of a Boxer fan ?
Organization: Unix in NYC
Distribution: na
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I need to reduce the speed of a Boxer fan by about 30-50%. I recall
reading somewhere that the right capacitor in series will do it.
If this isn't a case of brain fade, can someone suggest the cap value ?
The specifics; It's a real Boxer Fan (tm). The label says 115 V, .2 amps.
Al Dykes
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adykes@jpr.com
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From: adler@netcom.com (Bruce Adler)
Subject: Re: IBM-PC XT switch settings
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 26
In article <1qk158$kcp@bigbird.hri.com> obrien@bigbird.hri.com writes:
>I just got an IBM-PC XT with no documents. Its a true
>IBM, and I was wondering if anyone had the definitions
>of the 2 8 position dip switches?
SW8,SW7 number of 5.25" drives
0,0 1 drive
0,1 2 drives
1,0 3 drives
1,1 4 drives
SW6,SW5 type of display
0,0 reserved
0,1 40x25 color (mono mode)
1,0 80x25 color (mono mode)
1,1 mono 80x25
SW4,SW3 amount of memory on system board
64k chips 256k chips
0,0 64k 256k
0,1 128k 512k
1,0 192k 576k
1,1 256k 640k
SW2 co-processor installed
SW1 loop on POST
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From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
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In article <C5sy1z.4tD@demon.co.uk>, Graham Toal <gtoal@gtoal.com> writes:
> In article <1993Apr20.192105.11751@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
> :Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack
> :has 2^80 possible keys.
>
> We don't yet know if all 80 bits count.
That doesn't worry me at all; they're not going to cheat at something
they can get caught at. And key size is one of the things that can be
verified externally. Feed lots of random key/input pairs into the
chip, then try flipping random key bits, and see what happens to the
output. We already know what *should* happen -- about half the output
bits should vary, on average, from a 1-bit key change or input change.
If they were out to build a weak cryptosystem, it might be the case that
some of the bits are much less powerful than others, in the sense that
they only enter into the encryption very late in the game. By contrast,
DES was designed to use each key bit as early as possible; the 50% output
change rate appears as early as round 5. Again, though, I don't think
NSA is going to cheat that crudely; they're likely to get caught.
Remember that they've promised to let a committee of outside experts see
the cryptosystem design. If you assume something DES-like, a biased
subkey generation schedule will stick out like a sore thumb. The committee
can and should run lots of tests, and retain the output. This can be verified
later against the chip. And yes, the civilian community has at least some
secure storage facilities that I don't think even NSA can get into without
it being noticed, until Fort Meade gets its transporter working again.
(Oops -- I don't think I was supposed to talk about that...) The committee
members can even retain secure copies of the code -- in two halves, which
you have to XOR together to recover the program...
Seriously, there are, I think, problems with this whole scheme. But the
people who invented it aren't stupid, and they've been in the crypto game
and the smoke-and-mirrors game far longer than most of us. They're not
going to lie in ways that can be detected easily, since their credibility
is the *only* thing they can use to sell this system. If they've lied
about the civilian committee, no one will believe them about the absence
of other back doors. If they've lied about the key size, no one will
believe that they haven't copied the programming disk with the U keys.
If they've lied about obvious aspects of the strength of the cryptosystem,
no one will believe the escrow agencies aren't in cahoots with them.
That isn't to say that they aren't lying about all those other things
anyway. And I'm certainly not claiming that NSA can't build a cryptosystem
with a back door that the committee can't find -- look how long it took
for folks to believe that the S-boxes weren't sabotaged. It's entirely
possible that the committee will release an ambiguous report, for just
such reasons. But that's a subtle point (i.e., one you can't explain to
a Senator...).
> Anyway, its looking like the
> keys and escrow arrangements are smoke and mirrors to cover the way the NSA
> can regenerate the key from the transmitted serial number.
I don't like the unit key generation process any better than you do.
However -- S1 and S2 are supposed to be under control of the same
escrow agents. If they can't be trusted to keep the seed values secure,
they can't be trusted to keep the half-keys secure.
I still don't know if or when S1 and S2 change. I thought I had seen
something about them being constant, but I just reread Denning's technical
information post, and it doesn't say anything, one way or the other.
--Steve Bellovin
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From: jrogoff@scott.skidmore.edu (jay rogoff)
Subject: Re: New Home for the Bosox!!!
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
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> I agree, though I'd also be happy with a stadium that looks
> like new Comiskey. The new park was also made for baseball.
> Unlike Three Rivers, the Vet, Riverfront, etc., it's not a
> football park in which they also play baseball.
While we're on the multipurpose subject, let's not forget Shea, which
was designed to accommodate both the Mets & Jets. It was the first
stadium (I think) to have the box seats on rollers so they could be
oriented at right angles for baseball & in parallel for football.
Of course, with the Jets gone to Jersey (and a truly good football
stadium), the Mets are saddled with a multipurpose stadium where,
because it's circular, the seats are almost always too far from the
action. The Mets announcers--Kiner & Murphy in particular--have
always hyped it as "beautiful Shea
Stadium," a tipoff to how unbeautiful it truly is.
Jay
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Old Predictions to laugh at...
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
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In article <C5JCrF.KrM@news.udel.edu> philly@ravel.udel.edu (Robert C Hite) writes:
>
>DEAD WRONG! Last time I checked, Jim Fregosi was still managing the
>Phillies, and doing quite a fine job thank you...best record in
>baseball at 8-1
Look, asshole, I got him confused with somebody else. I didn't flame
you, and I would appreciate it if you extended me the same courtesy.
No, I don't know everything in the world. Does that surprise you?
-Valentine
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From: dave.mikelson@almac.co.uk (Dave Mikelson)
Subject: Re: PCX
Distribution: world
Organization: Almac BBS Ltd. +44 (0)324 665371
Reply-To: dave.mikelson@almac.co.uk (Dave Mikelson)
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To: ad994@Freenet.carleton.ca
JW> 1) Where is there a book or code that will teach me how
JW> to read and write pcx,dbf,and gif files?
JW> 2) How do I access the extra ram on my paradise video board
JW> so I can do paging in the higher vga modes ie: 320x200x256
JW> 800x600x256
JW> 3) anybody got a line on a good book to help answer these question?
Here are some that I have that are very good:
Graphics File Formats, Kay and Levine, ISBN 0-8306-3059-7
Supercharged Bitmapped Graphics, Rimmer, ISBN 0-8306-3788-5
Programmer's Guide to the EGA and VGA Cards, Ferraro,
ISBN 0-201-57025-4 (has a whole chapter on Paradise SVGA)
Dave
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. DeLuxe./386 1.12 #8993 .
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From: jplee@cymbal.calpoly.edu (JASON LEE)
Subject: Re: Surgery for Hal Morris
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Lines: 17
And then cjkuo@symantec.com (Jimmy Kuo) quoth:
>Does it strike anyone else how silly it is to impose a 3 game suspension on
>Morris?
>
>"Let's see... I expect to be back June 15th. How many games do we play
>before June 15th? Take me off the DL 3 games before June 15th."
>
>It would be a lot more meaningful if the suspension went into effect some
>number of games after he came back.
Well, either way, the Reds have to play a man down for 3 days.
--
Jason Lee jplee@oboe.calpoly.edu jlee@cash.busfac.calpoly.edu Giants
e ^ i*pi + 1 = 0 The most beautiful equation in mathematics. Magic
For all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these: Number:
"It might have been." John Greenleaf Whittier 153
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From: watson@madvax.uwa.oz.au (David Watson)
Subject: Re: Sphere from 4 points?
Organization: Maths Dept UWA
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Distribution: world
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In article <1qkgbuINNs9n@shelley.u.washington.edu>,
bolson@carson.u.washington.edu (Edward Bolson) writes:
|> Given 4 points (non coplanar), how does one find the sphere, that is,
|> center and radius, exactly fitting those points?
Finding the circumcenter of a tetrahedron is discussed on page 33 in
CONTOURING: A guide to the analysis and display of spatial data,
by Dave Watson, Pergamon Press, 1992, ISBN 0 08 040286 0, 321p.
Each pair of tetrahedral vertices define a plane which is a
perpendicular bisector of the line between that pair. Express each
plane in the form Ax + By + Cz = D
and solve the set of simultaneous equations from any three of those
planes that have a vertex in common (all vertices are used).
The solution is the circumcenter.
--
Dave Watson Internet: watson@maths.uwa.edu.au
Department of Mathematics
The University of Western Australia Tel: (61 9) 380 3359
Nedlands, WA 6009 Australia. FAX: (61 9) 380 1028
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Commercial mining activities on the moon
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
In article <1r46j3INN14j@mojo.eng.umd.edu> sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu writes:
>In article <STEINLY.93Apr20160116@topaz.ucsc.edu>, steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
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|>Very cost effective if you use the right accounting method :-)
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>Sherzer Methodology!!!!!!
Let it never be said that an opportunity was missed to put someone down.
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From: wcsbeau@alfred.carleton.ca (OPIRG)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Lines: 44
In article <1993Apr16.194316.25522@ohsu.edu> tong@ohsu.edu (Gong Tong) writes:
>In article <1993Apr16.155123.447@cunews.carleton.ca> wcsbeau@alfred.carleton.ca (OPIRG) writes:
>>
>>For cites on MSG, look up almost anything by John W. Olney, a
>>toxicologist who has studied the effects of MSG on the brain and on
>>development. It is undisputed in the literature that MSG is an
>>excitotoxic food additive, and that its major constituent, glutamate
>>is essentially the premierie neurotransmitter in the mammalian brain
>>(humans included). Too much in the diet, and the system gets thrown
>>off. Glutamate and aspartate, also an excitotoxin are necessary in
>>small amounts, and are freely available in many foods, but the amounts
>>added by industry are far above the amounts that would normally be
>>encountered in a ny single food. By eating lots of junk food,
>>packaged soups, and diet soft drinks, it is possible to jack your
>>blood levels so high, that anyone with a sensitivity to these
>>compounds will suffer numerous *real* physi9logical effects.
>>Read Olney's review paper in Prog. Brain Res, 1988, and check *his*
>>sources. They are impecable. There is no dispute.
>>
>> --Dianne Murray wcsbeau@ccs.carleton.ca
>
>In order to excitotoxin effects of MSG, MSG that in blood must go through
>blood-brain barrier that I am not sure MSG can go through or not.
Elevated levels of Glu and Asp in the blood are able to bypass the
Blood-brain barrier through the circumventricular organs (or CVO), in
particular the adeno and neurohypophysis (pituitary gland) areas. The
arcuate nucleus of the hypothalamus, and the median eminence regions
are particularly effected. CVO areas are not subject to the
blood-brain barrier. These areas control the release of gonadotropin,
which controls the release and flux of steroids governing development,
especially sexual development. Changes in adult rats, which are less
sensitive to Glu than humans, have been observed: after ingesting Glu,
on a chronic basis, cycles of several steroids are disrupted. Blood
levels of somatostatin are significantly reduced, and cyclic release
of steroids becomes flattened.
Hope this helps.
--Dianne Murray: wcsbeau@ccs.carleton.ca
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From: jaskew@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au (Joseph Askew)
Subject: Re: the call to space (was Re: Clueless Szaboisms )
Organization: Statistics, Pure & Applied Mathematics, University of Adelaide
Lines: 34
In article <1pfiuh$64e@access.digex.com> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>If the japanese are really going for Nukes, why not go with better
>technology then we have. AS opposed to BWR/PWRs have they really
>considered some of the 3rd generation Inherently safe designs.
The Japanese are still on the learning curve as far as nuclear power goes.
This means that unlike the Germans (who do great things all by themselves)
the Japanese tie up with foreign companies. The major one is Mitsubishi
(who else) who have a sharing agreement with GE I think. No chance of a
new design.
>Sodium has lots of chemical problems but it really solves design
>difficulties. Or the inherently safe types.
Sodium has *lots* of chemical problems. Like it eats stainless steel. Very
slowly but it gets there in the end. Not what I call a desired property.
As for design difficulties, what does sodium do there? It is a bitch and
it is only its chemical properties (flwed though they are) that means it
gets used. Two loops? That's not a design problem? Isolation from air and
water? That doesn't cause design problems? In comparison BWR's a dream rides!
>PWR's work real good, but they need lots of steel, and they are highly
>complex systems. Simplicity is a virtue.
Don't get none of that in a Liquid Sodium Breeder! More steel, more complexity.
Joseph Askew
--
Joseph Askew, Gauche and Proud In the autumn stillness, see the Pleiades,
jaskew@spam.maths.adelaide.edu Remote in thorny deserts, fell the grief.
Disclaimer? Sue, see if I care North of our tents, the sky must end somwhere,
Actually, I rather like Brenda Beyond the pale, the River murmurs on.
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From: cathy@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Cathy Smith)
Subject: Re: UPI News Release
Nntp-Posting-Host: blanca.lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Cathy Smith posting for L. Neil Smith
Dear Bill --
Very, VERY good -- you made my whole day with this post. Thanks
a lot.
L. Neil Smith
My opinions are, of course, my own.
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From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte)
Subject: Re: Increasing the number of Serial ports
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
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Nntp-Posting-Host: hemul.nada.kth.se
In <1993Apr18.134943.16479@bmers95.bnr.ca> slang@bnr.ca (Steven Langlois) writes:
>If such a device exists, are there are any limits to the number of
>serial devices I can use?
How many NuBus slots do you have?
Applied Engineering has something called the QuadraLink, which is
a card with 4 serial ports that you get at through the comms
toolbox (in addition to the built-in ones) It also comes with
software for fooling applications to open an AE port when they
think they open a built-in port.
They also have a more expensive card with DMA (better performance)
and I _think_ they, or someone else, have a card that handles
8 ports simultaneously.
As I said, with NuBus, you're green. Learn how to use the Comms
Resource Manager to get at the various installed cards.
Cheers,
/ h+
--
-- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe --
"You NEVER hide the menu bar. You might go about and change the color
of it to the color of the BACKGROUND, but you never HIDE the menu bar."
-- Tog
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From: brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Organization: Quake Public Access, San Fernando Valley, CA (818)362-6092
Lines: 92
Have you ever met a chemist? A food industry businessman? You must
personally know a lot of them for you to be able to be so certain that they
are evil mosters whose only goal is to inflict as much pain and disease
as possible into the general public. Gimme a break.
In article <1993Apr15.215826.3401@rtsg.mot.com> lundby@rtsg.mot.com (Walter F. L
undby) writes:
>
>>>Is there such a thing as MSG (monosodium glutamate) sensitivity?
>>>Superstition. Anybody here have experience to the contrary?
person who is very sensitive to msg and whose wife and kids are
>too, I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE FOOD INDUSTRY WANTS TO PUT MSG IN FOOD!!!
Because it makes the food TASTE BETTER! Why does it put salt in food?
Same reason.
>I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!
Obviously.
>Somebody in the industry GIVE ME SOME REASONS WHY!
>IS IT AN INDUSTRIAL BYPRODUCT THAT NEEDS GETTING GET RID OF?
Of course not! (Although I would think that a person like you would be a
big fan of such recycling if that were the case).
>IS IT TO COVER UP THE FACT THAT THE RECIPES ARE NOT VERY GOOD OR THE
>FOOD IS POOR QUALITY?
On occasion that's probably the case, but in general the idea is that MSG
improves the flavor of certain foods.
>DO SOME OF YOU GET A SADISTIC PLEASURE OUT OF MAKING SOME OF US SICK?
No.
>DO THE TASTE TESTERS HAVE SOME DEFECT IN THEIR FLAVOR SENSORS (MOUTH etc...)
> THAT MSG CORRECTS?
No.
>I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!
Obviously.
>ALSO ... Nitrosiamines (sp)
As I recall, these are natural by-products of heating up certain foods.
They don't "put it in there".
have a number of criteria in choosing how to process food. They want to
make it taste good, look good, sell for a good price, etc. The fact that they
use it tells me that THEY think that it contributes to those goals they are
interested in. One of those goals is NOT "making people sick". Such a goal
woud quickly drive them out of business and for no benefit.
>I think
>1) outlaw the use of these substances without warning labels as
>large as those on cig. packages.
Warning of what? In California there is a law requiring that ANYTHING which
contains a carcinogen be labeled. That includes every gasline pump, most
foods, and even money cleaning machines (because Nickel is a mild carcinogen).
The result is that now nobody pays any attention to ANY of the warnings.
>2) Require 30% of comparable products on the market to be free of these
>substances and state that they are free of MSG, DYES, NITROSIAMINES and
>SULFITES on the package.
Why? What if not 30% of people wanted to buy this ugly, rotten, not-as-tasty
food? I guess it will just be wasted, huh? How terribly efficient.
>3) While at it outlaw yellow dye #5. For that matter why dye food?
Because it makes food look better. I LIKE food that looks good.
If vitamin companies want to do that it is fine, but who are you to
tell THEM how to make vitamins? Who are you to tell ME whether I should
buy flavored vitamins for my kids (who can't swallow the conventional ones
whole).
>KEEP FOOD FOOD! QUIT PUTTING IN JUNK!
How do you define "junk"? Is putting "salt" in food bad? What about
Pepper? What about alcohol as a preservative? What about sealing jars
with wax? What about vinegar? You seem to think that "chemicals" are
somehow different than "food". The fact is that all foods are 100% chemicals.
You are just expressing an irrational prejudice against food processing.
--Brian
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From: moffatt@bnr.ca (John Thomson)
Subject: Re: What is Zero dB????
Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarhdd
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
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Joseph Chiu (josephc@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
:
: >Similarly, people usually use dB for dBm. Another common mistake is spelling
: >``db'' instead of ``dB'' as you did in your article. See the ``B'' is for
: >``Bell'' company, the mother of AT&T and should be capitalized.
:
: Thus, a deciBell (deci-, l., tenth of + Bell) is a fractional part of the
: original Bell. For example, SouthWestern Bell is a deciBell.
Out of what hat did you pull this one? dB is a ratio not an RBOC!
: And the measure of current, Amp, is actually named after both the AMP company
: and the Amphenol company. Both companies revolutionized electronics by
: simulatenously realizing that the performance of connectors and sockets
: were affected by the amount of current running through the wires.
Sorry. The unit for current is the AMPERE which is the name of a french-man
named AMPERE who studied electrical current. The term AMP is just an abbreviation
of it. The company AMP came after the AMPERE unit was already in use.
: The Ohmite company was the first to characterize resistances by numbers, thus
: our use of the Ohms...
I don't know about this one, but it doesn't sound right.
:
: Alexander Graham Bell, actually, is where Bell came from...
Well you got one thing right!
:
:
:
: Actually, Bel refers
:
: > With highest regards,
: > Babak Sehari.
:
: >--
: --
: Joseph Chiu | josephc@cco.caltech.edu "OS/2: You gotta get this thing!"
: MSC 380 - Caltech |
: Pasadena, CA 91126 | OS/2: The operating system of tomorrow, today.
: +1 818 449 5457 |
Greg Moffatt
Bell-Northern Research Inc., Ottawa Canada
"My opinions; not BNR's"
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From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Subject: Re: neck reining -was- Countersteering_FAQ please post
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
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In article <1qmetg$g2n@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>
egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>Basically, there are two ways to steer a horse, plow-rein and
>neck-rein. Plow-reining steers him by keeping the reins separate, and
>you pull in the direction you wish to go. Neck-reining steers a horse
>by holding the reins together in one hand, and pulling against the
>horse's neck in the direction you wish to go. When training a
>plow-steering horse to neck-rein, one technique is to cross the reins
>under his necks. Thus, when neck-reining to the left, the right rein
>pulls against the right side of the neck, but the left side of the bit
>(which the horse is used to from his plow-reining days).
I learned when riding bareback as a kid to "palm-reign", by just
pushing on the right side of the horse's neck with your right palm to turn
left - a lot like countersteering. So that came pretty easy to me in the
transition to motorcycles. It took a while however to break my habit of
kicking the rear fender with my heels to go faster.
Steve
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42 Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington FAX: (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
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From: Peter Hansen <pgmoffc@BNR.ca>
Subject: Re: Help: 2 internal HDs in Mac II?
X-Xxdate: Tue, 6 Apr 93 11:17:54 GMT
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In article <1993Apr1.054820.3942@siemens.co.at> Kurt Netzer,
kurt@siemens.co.at writes:
>Is it possible to install a 2nd 3 1/2" 100 MB HD in a Mac II with a
>5 1/4" 40 MB Qunatum HD?
>Can i us a 50 pin cable with 3 connectors for the internal motherboard
>SCSI-Connector and the 2 SCSI-HD Connectors. The first HD is'nt
terminated
>the second will be.
>Whats about the power supply. Where can i connect a 3 1/2" AMP-Connector
>to supply my 3 1/2" HD?
It is very possible to connect another internal hard disk in any
macintosh if you can find the space to put it. I have a IIsi that came
with a Quantum 80 meg drive. When I ran into space problems, I slapped in
another 40 meg quantum that I had sitting on a shelf. Here is what I did.
First off, I was concerned about space. Since both drives are Quantum
quarter height drives, I finally decided that the logical place for them
was stacked one upon the other. Fine, they fit snugly. (I have not had a
problem with heat yet, and these drives have been running together for
over two months.
The next problem was connecting the drive. If you have a spare internal
hard disk power cable as I did, then half of your troubles are over. just
splice in the extra cable so that you get one square motherboard
connector and two hard disk power connectors. If you don't have a spare
cable, you will have to buy the wires and connectors which can be found
in any good electronics store for about $10. I would suggest properly
soldering/heatshrinking the connections to reduce the possibility of
shorts or bad connections.
Next, you need a ribbon cable connection. Again, I had a spare hard disk
ribbon cable, and I wanted to be careful in case this didn't word so what
I did was purchase a crimp on 50 pin cable connector that gave me another
male connector in the middle of my spare cable. The part cost $10 again,
and is easily attached with any good wood vice. The theory behind using a
crimp on connector is that if this doesn't work, my original cable is not
damaged, and I can go back to the original setup.
Having done all that, I couldn't be bothered to check the dev notes for
power consumption so I plugged it in and it works like a charm to this
day.
In a mac II, everything should work the same. Be careful with the ID's of
the drive, and ensure that the terminating resistors on both drives are
intact. I did not try this without the terminating resistors but it
seemed logical that if I am splitting the SCSI chain, that the signal
should be terminated at all the ends.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Peter Hansen
Bell Northern Research
pgmoffc@BNR.ca
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Moonbase race, NASA resources, why?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
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Henry,
didn't the Little Joe and Big Joe get built in under a year?
6 months for little Joe, and 12 Months for Big Joe?
i thought i saw something on that for a old mercury film.
pat
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From: marka@hcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Mark Ashley)
Subject: Re: hearing sinners
Organization: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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In article <Apr.21.03.24.19.1993.1271@geneva.rutgers.edu> JEK@cu.nih.gov writes:
>On the question, "Does God hear the prayers of sinners?" we need to
>distinguish.
>If we say that He never hears the prayers of any who have sinned, we
>make pointless all prayers by anyone born less than 19 centuries
>ago.
>But if we consider the prayers of the impenitent sinner, of someone
>who says, "Lord, I want you to do this for me, but don't expect me
>to change my way of life," that is a different matter.
I have no doubt that God hears everybody's prayers.
However, He does things His way, i.e. things will happen
only if it is His will.
Now if the question really is "Does God grant everybody's wishes ?"
then you'll get a brutal shot of reality similar to when you didn't
get that toy you wanted for Christmas. You just cannot expect
to get everything you want in this world.
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Ashley |DISCLAIMER: My opinions. Not Harris'
marka@gcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com |
The Lost Los Angelino |
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From: mjuric@aisun1.ai.uga.edu (Mark Juric [MSAI])
Subject: Printer security
Keywords: printers, security
We are being attacked by midnight, phantom printer users, who rack up 100s
If there are any utilities that allow multiple passwords for access to the
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Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
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@===@ @===@
### Mark Juric A.I. Programs ###
### mjuric@ai.uga.edu University of Georgia ###
### Athens, Georgia 30602 ###
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From: bdunn@cco.caltech.edu (Brendan Dunn)
Subject: Re: YOU WILL ALL GO TO HELL!!!
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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In article <93108.155839PTS102@psuvm.psu.edu> <PTS102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
[Pitt vs. Penn State controversy deleted]
>
>Bringing this back to alt.atheism relevance: So the guy says we're going to
>Hell. That isn't sufficient cause to bitch to the system operator. At worst,
>it's bad etiquette. (Unless you really believe that someone is using his
>account without his knowledge/permission, which is actually against the law.)
>-----
>Patrick Saxton "Pitt is a second-rate school in a second-rate city."
>pts102@PSUVM.psu.edu - anon
>pts@ecl.psu.edu ob.atheism: "In Batman we Trust"
>
No. It wouldn't be sufficient cause to bitch to the system operator if this
was just some guy saying that atheists are going to hell. The point was
that recently many messages were posted from that address. Each of these
messages was posted to a different newsgroup, with the apparent intent of
provoking the readers of that particular group. This, along with the fact
that these posts were written in all-caps, makes these posts suspect.
Whoever is using this account is using it irresponsibly. If it is the
intended user, they should consider appropriate action. If it is someone
else-- which seems a possibility, then this is also reason to report it.
We get many posts in the flavor of the one that started this thread.
It is only because I have seen posts on other groups by this user that I
am considering action.
Brendan
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From: noye@midway.uchicago.edu (vera shanti noyes)
Subject: Re: Easter: what's in a name? (was Re: New Testament Double Standard?
Reply-To: noye@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
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In article <Apr.10.05.33.25.1993.14413@athos.rutgers.edu> jayne@mmalt.guild.org (Jayne Kulikauskas) writes:
>seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna (S.M.) Watson) writes:
>
>> In Quebec French, the word for the celebration of the resurrection is
>> "Pa^ques"--this is etymologically related to Pesach (Passover) and the
>> pascal lamb. So is the French Canadian (mostly Roman Catholic) celebration
>> better because it uses the right name?
>
>I was at my parents' Seder and noticed the labelling on one of the
>packages was English, Hebrew and French. In the phrase "kosher for
>passover" the French word used was "Pa^ques." We've deliberately
>mistranslated this at the Kulikauskas home and keep referring to foods
>being kosher for Easter. :-)
however, the word "pa^ques" in french _is_ the word for easter. ask
any francophone, whether from quebec or from paris. besides, haven't
you heard of the phrase "the paschal lamb" (meaning jesus)?
sorry to nitpick on the more trivial part of this thread....
:) vera
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I am your CLOCK! | I bind unto myself today | Vera Noyes
I am your religion! | the strong name of the | noye@midway.uchicago.edu
I own you! | Trinity.... | no disclaimer -- what
- Lard | - St. Patrick's Breastplate | is there to disclaim?
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From: halsall@murray.fordham.edu (Paul Halsall)
Subject: Catholic Liturgy
Reply-To: halsall@murray.fordham.edu
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
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The problems with Catholic liturgy are likely to continue for
some time. The problem is, in a nutshell, this: the Liturgy is a
symbolic action - in other words Catholics do [or should] believe that
the _signs_ during the mass - Water, Blessings, Vestments, Altar,
Relics, etc - are real. That is the sprinkling of water bestows real,
almost tangible, holiness, the Vestments are a real indication of real
sacred time. The point of a _symbol_ is that it is understood by all
to be connected to an underlying REAL referent. This kind of thinking
precludes analysis; holy water is not holy because of anything, it
simply IS holy.
But, modern westerners find it extremely difficult, especially if
well- educated, to think of the mass as a symbol. We are more likely
to see it as a _sign_, ie an action that represents grace, but which
could be replaced with other signs. In concrete terms, this means the
mass has become a commercial for God's grace rather than the real
thing. You can mess around with a commercial in a way you wouldn't
dare with the real thing [ask Coca-Cola Co.!]. These attitudes have
been encouraged by Liturgy workshops, etc. which instead of focusing
on _how_ to do do liturgy, have focused on how to create a meaning in
liturgy. You can only create signs, symbols have to come from God [or
the heart, or somewhere deeper than analysis. The most dramatic
example of this shift in understanding has been in the treatment of
the sacred species [the consecrated host and wine]. Now, with pita
bread etc, it is common to come away from the altar with hands covered
in particles. If the Host is a sign of Grace, this isnt and issue; but
Catholics in the past would have been distraught at this real
desacration of the real symbol of Jesus' body.
Modern Catholic liturgy is caught in this epistemological shift. We
try to perfrom the old rites, but then we have some liturgomaniac
priest get up and 'explain' what we are doing - so we stop doing it and
start pretending to do it. This is not a soul filling experience.
It doesn't help BTW that we have got stuck witha huge amount of two and
three chord ersatz-folk music [again a result of mis-analysis: complicated
tunes are in fact easier to remember than simple ones - this was the
genius of Wesley and the 19C Anglican hymn writers]. Taize' is only
slightly better.
What are we to do? Well I suggest rejecting the parish system if it
doesn't work for you. Search out a Church where the liturgy is well
prepared not well-explained. They exist in every city. This is not BTW
a matter of particular style: the music might be old or new. It is
the attitude of the church that counts. Also, note that a conservative
liturgy - harking back to pre-Vatican II days, does not necessarily mean
the Church will be socially conservative.
In NYC I can recommend:
Corpus Christi - W 12st St.
Corpus Christi - W 12st St. - very conservative liturgy,
St. Joseph's, Greenwich Village. - Modern, "clean", largely gay
Oratorian Church, Brooklyn - Very beautiful
Avoid, anywhere, anytime a church with electric candles.
Happy Easter: Christos Aneste', Christos Voskrezhne, Christ is Risen
Paul Halsall
Halsall@murray.fordham.edu
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From: schnitzi@osceola.cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Subject: Re: Atheists and Hell
Organization: University of Central Florida
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atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Cardinal Ximenez) writes:
>1) Atheists believe that when they die, they die forever.
>2) A god who would condemn those who fail to believe in him to eternal death
> is unfair.
> I don't see what the problem is! To Christians, Hell is, by definition,
>eternal death--exactly what atheists are expecting when they die.
Well, I think that most Christians believe that your conciousness will
somehow continue on after your 'physical' death, which contradicts what
most atheists (myself included) believe, namely that your conciousness,
being contained in your brain, dies when your brain dies.
>There's no
>reason Hell has to be especially awful--to most people, eternal death is bad
>enough.
I fear the pain that often comes with the process of dying, but since I
won't be around to worry about it, I don't fear eternal death.
> Literal interpreters of the Bible will have a problem with this view, since
>the Bible talks about the fires of Hell and such.
This is something I've always found confusing. If all your nerve endings
die with your physical body, why would flame hurt you? How can one "wail
and gnash teeth" with no lungs and no teeth?
Mark Schnitzius
schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu
University of Central Florida
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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: "Cruel" (was Re: <Political Atheists?)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>>This whole thread started because of a discussion about whether
>>or not the death penalty constituted cruel punishment, which is forbidden
>>by the US Constitution.
>Yes, but they didn't say what they meant by "cruel", which is why
>a) you have the Supreme Court, and b) it makes no sense to refer
>to the Constitution, which is quite silent on the meaning of the
>word "cruel".
They spent quite a bit of time on the wording of the Constitution. They
picked words whose meanings implied the intent. We have already looked
in the dictionary to define the word. Isn't this sufficient?
>>Oh, but we were discussing the death penalty (and that discussion
>>resulted from the one about murder which resulted from an intial
>>discussion about objective morality--so this is already three times
>>removed from the morality discussion).
>Actually, we were discussing the mening of the word "cruel" and
>the US Constitution says nothing about that.
But we were discussing it in relation to the death penalty. And, the
Constitution need not define each of the words within. Anyone who doesn't
know what cruel is can look in the dictionary (and we did).
keith
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From: gwalker@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Grayson Walker)
Subject: Re: Changing oil by self.
Keywords: oily to bed
Organization: A.S.I., Merritt Island, Florida
Distribution: usa
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Ah, yes, the big chunks down in the sump. The solution is simple. Sort of
like the advice my Aunt always gave -- never scratch your ear with anything
except your elbow.
If you have pieces of ring, con rods, valve heads or stems, just reach into
the sump through the hole in the block that was associated with the creation
of those large bits and pieces. Anything you can't remove with one hand
through the hole in the block may safely be left in place.
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From: nstramer@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer)
Subject: THE HAMAS WAY of DEATH
Nntp-Posting-Host: supergas
Reply-To: nstramer@dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Electronics
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THE HAMAS WAY of DEATH
(Following is a transcript of a recruitment and training
videotape made last summer by the Qassam Battalions, the military
arm of Hamas, an Islamic Palestinian group. Hamas figures
significantly in the Middle East equation. In December, Israel
deported more than 400 Palestinians to Lebanon in response to
Hamas's kidnapping and execution of an Israeli soldier. A longer
version appears in the May issue of Harper's Magazine, which
obtained and translated the tape.)
My name is Yasir Hammad al-Hassan Ali. I live in Nuseirat [a
refugee camp in the Gaza Strip]. I was born in 1964. I finished
high school, then attended Gaza Polytechnic. Later, I went to work
for Islamic University in Gaza as a clerk. I'm married and I have
two daughters.
The Qassam Battalions are the only group in Palestine
explicitly dedicated to jihad [holy war]. Our primary concern is
Palestinians who collaborate with the enemy. Many young men and
women have fallen prey to the cunning traps laid by the [Israeli]
Security Services.
Since our enemies are trying to obliterate our nation,
cooperation with them is clearly a terrible crime. Our most
important objective must be to put an end to the plague of
collaboration. To do so, we abduct collaborators, intimidate and
interrogate them in order to uncover other collaborators and expose
the methods that the enemy uses to lure Palestinians into
collaboration in the first place. In addition to that, naturally,
we confront the problem of collaborators by executing them.
We don't execute every collaborator. After all, about 70
percent of them are innocent victims, tricked or black-mailed into
their misdeeds. The decision whether to execute a collaborator is
based on the seriousness of his crimes. If, like many
collaborators, he has been recruited as an agent of the Israeli
Border Guard then it is imperative that he be executed at once.
He's as dangerous as an Israeli soldier, so we treat him like an
Israeli soldier.
There's another group of collaborators who perform an even
more loathsome role -- the ones who help the enemy trap young men
and women in blackmail schemes that force them to become
collaborators. I regard the "isqat" [the process by which a
Palestinians is blackmailed into collaboration] of single person as
greater crime than the killing of a demonstrator. If someone is
guilty of causing repeated cases of isqat, than it is our religious
duty to execute him.
A third group of collaborators is responsible for the
distribution of narcotics. They work on direct orders from the
Security Services to distribute drugs as widely as possible. Their
victims become addicted and soon find it unbearable to quit and
impossible to afford more. They collaborate in order to get the
drugs they crave. The dealers must also be executed.
In the battalions, we have developed a very careful method of
uncovering collaborators, We can't afford to abduct an innocent
person, because once we seize a person his reputation is tarnished
forever. We will abduct and interrogate a collaborator only after
evidence of his guilt has been established -- never before. If
after interrogation the collaborator is found guilty beyond any
doubt, then he is executed.
In many cases, we don't have to make our evidence against
collaborators public, because everyone knows that they're guilty.
But when the public isn't aware that a certain individual is a
collaborator, and we accuse him, people are bound to ask for
evidence. Many people will proclaim his innocence, so there must be
irrefutable proof before he is executed. This proof is usually
obtained in the form of a confession.
At first, every collaborator denies his crimes. So we start
off by showing the collaborator the testimony against him. We tell
him that he still has a chance to serve his people, even in the
last moment of his life, by confessing and giving us the
information we need.
We say that we know his repentance in sincere and that he has
been a victim. That kind of talk is convincing. Most of them
confess after that. Others hold out; in those cases, we apply
pressure, both psychological and physical. Then the holdouts
confess as well.
Only one collaborator has ever been executed without an
interrogation. In that case, the collaborator had been seen working
for the Border Guard since before the intifada, and he himself
confessed his involvement to a friend, who disclosed the
information to us. In addition, three members of his network of
collaborators told us that he had caused their isqat. With this
much evidence, there was no need to interrogate him. But we are
very careful to avoid wrongful executions. In every case, our
principal is the same: the accused should be interrogated until he
himself confesses his crimes.
A few weeks ago, we sat down and complied a list of
collaborators to decide whether there were any who could be
executed without interrogation. An although we had hundreds of
names, still, because of our fear of God and of hell, we could not
mark any of these men, except for the one I just mentioned, for
execution.
When we execute a collaborator in public, we use a gun. But
after we abduct and interrogate a collaborator, we can't shoot him
-- to do so might give away our locations. That's why collaborators
are strangled. Sometimes we ask the collaborator, "What do you
think? How should we execute you?" One collaborator told us,
"Strangle me." He hated the sight of blood.
-----
Naftaly Stramer | Intergraph Electronics
Internet: nstramer@dazixco.ingr.com | 6101 Lookout Road, Suite A
Voice: (303)581-2370 FAX: (303)581-9972 | Boulder, CO 80301
"Quality is everybody's job, and it's everybody's job to watch all that they can."
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From: long@spk.hp.com (Jerry Long)
Subject: Re: Principle_of_the_Breathalyzer
Article-I.D.: spk.C52I89.GEq
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
Lines: 31
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
william burchill (williamb@ee.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Does anybody out there know how the hand held breathalyzer used
: by our police works? I would like to hear about this and the more
: general problem of detecting smells by machine.
:
: Thanks, William.
:
: williamb@ee.ubc.ca
:
From what I have read about these little gadgets, it works on
a electrochemical galvanic principle. The sensing unit has a
chemical matrix which produces an electrical voltage proportional
to the amount of chemical compound it is designed for ... in this case
I believe it is the Hydroxyl group???
I have also heard - not tested :-) - since common gasoline is also
a member of this Hydroxyl group, it will also cause a failing breathalizer
failure! Next time you get stopped for DUI, say you just siphoned gas from
your neighbors car (you know..... the Oklahoma credit card) and chances
are you won't get a DUI ticket!!!!
Jerry Long
long@spk.hp.com
****************************************
Disclaimer.... Opinions are my own and
do NOT reflect those of my employer.
****************************************
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From: ksc@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (kenneth.s.cobler)
Subject: XFree86 and Esix 4.0.4
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Keywords: esix
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Hello Netlanders:
I am a novice X user with a question for any Xgod.
My computer configuration with the X problem is as follows:
486DX50/256/16RAM running Esix 4.0.4
Wangtek AT-style interface 250 M tape drive.
I have loaded the Basic OS (which includes nsu) and
inet utilities (tcp/ip).
I ftp-ed the XFree86 (X11R5) binaries and installed properly.
I can execute startx and run X-windows with no problems.
However, if I try to access the tape drive while in X, the
machine locks up instantly. If I am out of X and access the
tape, the tape drive works fine. Soon as I try to
startx again; the screen changes modes, but, the grey background
pattern does not come up and no xterm is forked. I have to login
from another terminal and execute a shutdown to reset the system.
I've contacted Esix about this problem. They claim THEIR X-window X11R4
server (which I have) works with the Wangtek tape drive. They also
claim I only need the nsu (network system utilities) to run X; I don't
need inet (tcp/ip). My experience has been that I need BOTH to get
XFree86 to work. I'm not too concerned about having to load both nsu and inet
packages to get X to work unless the inet package is causing my problem.
I would like to get both X and my tape drive to co-exist on the same
system. If you can shed any light on the problem, it would be appreciated.
One colleague implied this might be a hardware conflict. If this is true,
what direction should I look to resolve the conflict ?
Thanks,
Kenneth Cobler ksc@ihlpv.att.com
AT&T Bell Laboratories
263 Shuman Blvd.
Naperville, IL 60566
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From: king@ctron.com (John E. King)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is oxymoronic?
Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc.
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To: "Andrew A. Houghton" <ah0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Andrew A. Houghton" writes:
>I'm still waiting to hear a good response from a christian type.. how
>is christ's word (as quoted by Paul) reconciled with current christian
>beliefs?
Almost one third of the world's population claim to be Christian. But
any similarity between their beliefs and lifestyle to the first century
model is purely coincidental. At Luke 18:8 it states, "...nevertheless,
when the son of man returns, will he really find the faith on the earth?"
Jack
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From: scotts@bbking.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM ( Scott Sherman)
Subject: Re: Computer Engr vs. Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Microelectronics Products Division (an AT&T Company)
Lines: 20
In article <1993Apr10.210242.340@macadam.com>, mike@macadam.com writes:
|> I am a freshman in college and can't decide whether to major in computer
|> engineering or computer science. Any advice or suggestions will be
|> appreciated.
|>
|> Thanks,
|> Mike
A professor of mine once said "The difference between a Computer Engineer and
a Computer Scientist is about $5000" meaning the Engineer makes $5000 more than
the CS.
Seriously though the main difference is that most CS people write programs that
people will use, i.e. database, graphics, word processors, etc., while an
engineer writes for machines or control systems, i.e. the "computer" in your
car, a flight control system, computer controled devices, etc. In other words
CS writes SOFTWARE while CSE writes FIRMWARE.
These are generalizations but for the most part that is what the difference is.
P.S. The $5000 is not just a joke
Scott
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From: tdawson@llullaillaco.engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw)
Subject: Re: Sun IPX root window display - background picture
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Lines: 15
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: llullaillaco.engin.umich.edu
Keywords: sun ipx background picture
Originator: tdawson@llullaillaco.engin.umich.edu
I'm not sure if you got the information you were looking for, so I'll
post it anyway for the general public. To load an image on your root
window add this line to the end of your .xsession file:
xloadimage -onroot -fullscreen <gif_file_name> &
This is assuming of course you have the xloadimage client, and as
for the switches, I think they pretty much explain what is going on.
If you leave out the <&>, the terminal locks till you kill it.
(You already knew that though...)
Hope this helps.
Daemon
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From: wcl@risc.sps.mot.com (Wayne Long)
Subject: PROBLEM: Running AIX info from a Sun rlogin shell.
Organization: Motorola (Austin,TX)
Lines: 22
NNTP-Posting-Host: ome.sps.mot.com
When I run our RS6000's "info" utility through a remote login
shell (rlogin) from my Sun Sparc 1+, I can no longer type
lower case in any of info's window prompt's.
I thought the prob. may have been due to my Sun window mgr.
(Openlook) being incompatible with the AIX Motif application
but I tried it under TVTWM also. Same result.
So this is presumably an X11 key definition problem between
workstations - but my system admins. feign ignorance.
What do I need to do the be able to type lower case into
this remote AIX motif app. from within my local Openlook
window manager?
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From: mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt)
Subject: Re: Anyone interested in facts? Here's a few
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 19
Oops, I forgot to set read permission. It's fixed now.
ftp netcom.com
login: anonymous
password: your@email.address
cd pub/mvp
binary
get clinton.zip
You need pkzip 2.x or the latest net.zip to un-"deflate" this.
Economic stats since Day One, plus all of the myriad ways Slick Willie
and the Gang of 535 are preparing to do it to us. From Ron Brown's
desk, so any distortion is pro-Democrat, can you believe it?
--
Let's face it, when it comes to utilities, Microsoft has | Mike Van Pelt
performed about as well as a savings and loan. These are | mvp@netcom.com
the guys, remember, who put BACKUP and RESTORE - not to | mvp@lsil.com
mention EDLIN - on your hard disk. - Lincoln Spector +----
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From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Subject: Re: Riceburner Respect
Expires: 15 May 93 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.
Lines: 19
In article <1993Apr9.172953.12408@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@mare.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>The rider (pilot?) of practically every riceburner I've passed recently
>has waved to me and I'm wondering if it will last. Could they simply be
>overexuberant that their 'burners have been removed from winter moth-balls
>and the novelty will soon dissipate? Perhaps the gray beard that sprouted
>since the last rice season makes them think I'm a friendly old fart that
>deserves a wave...
Maybe...then again did you get rid of that H/D of yorn and buy a rice rocket
of your own? That would certainly explain the friendliness...unless you
maybe had a piece of toilet paper stuck on the bottom of your boot...8-).
Rich
Rich Bemben - DoD #0044 rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
1977 750 Triumph Bonneville (617) 275-1800 x 4173
"Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil, but heaven protect
us from the evil men do in the name of good"
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: Building a UV flashlight
Nntp-Posting-Host: aisun3.ai.uga.edu
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 13
You can get a *little* UV by putting a heavy UV filter (deep purple) in
front of an ordinary flashlight bulb (the brightest you can get).
My father used a setup like this in law enforcement work circa 1964.
Good UV ("blacklight") bulbs work like fluorescent bulbs. I'd proceed by
getting a cheap battery-powered _fluorescent_ light, then going to an
electrical supply house and finding a UV bulb that would fit it.
--
:- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : *****
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *********
:- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * *
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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Subject: Re: Rodney King Trial, Civil Rights Violations, Double Jeopardy
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA
Lines: 37
In <1993Apr2.182942.22445@husc3.harvard.edu> spanagel@husc11.harvard.edu (David Spanagel) writes:
|Recently it's occured to me that I've never heard of any PERSON ever being
|tried in Federal Court for violating someone's civil rights. Of course
|there have been cases before the Supreme Court in which it was decided
|that someone's civil rights had been violated (e.g., Miranda, Escobedo,
|etc.), but institutions were, de facto, the defendants, not individuals. Am I
|mistaken? Have there been similar cases against individuals in the past?
I know it was used several times in the south, to prosecute the murders of
blacks, after all white juries had cleared the accussed.
|Furthermore, what are the specific charges against the four LAPD officers?
|Which civil rights or laws are they accused of violating?
I believe it is a general charge, that is no specific right is mentioned.
|What about double jeopardy? Has there been any concern that a verdict
|against Koon, et al. might be overturned upon appeal because they're being tried
|again for the same actions? (I thought I heard something on the news about
|this.)
The SS has previously ruled that since the seperate governments were in
essence seperate sovereigns, then double jeopardy does not apply.
(If this is true, then could defendents also be tried under city and
county governments?)
This mornings paper said that the ACLU has decided to reinstate its
opposition to this kind of thing. They had earlier suspended their
opposition while they examined the King case. There might be hope
for the ACLU after all.
--
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
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From: rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee)
Subject: Diamond Speedstar Driver for v3.1
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Lines: 16
I am looking for a WIN31 driver (or set) for my Diamond
Speedstar 1MB video card. Does anybody know of an archive
site that has these? I looked at CICA and it had drivers for
the Stealth card and for Generic ET4000 cards but not one
specifically for the Speedstar. Is there one? Or has Diamond
dropped the Speedstar out of the driver development loop.
Thanks for any info,
Rob
--
Robert Mee Boston University Information Technology (rem@bu-it.bu.edu)
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From: nancie@neko.CSS.GOV (Nancie P. Marin)
Subject: Re: XCopyPlane Question
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 36
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
In article <BUZZ.93Apr19101538@lion.bear.com> buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti) write
>In article <WHALEY.93Apr15103931@sigma.kpc.com> whaley@sigma.kpc.com (Ken Whaley) writes:
>> Actually, I must also ask the FAQ's #1 most popular reason why graphics
>> don't show up: do you wait for an expose event before drawing your
>> rectangle?
>
>Suppose you have an idle app with a realized and mapped Window that contains
>Xlib graphics. A button widget, when pressed, will cause a new item
>to be drawn in the Window. This action clearly should not call XCopyArea()
>(or equiv) directly; instead, it should register the existence of the new
>item in a memory structure and let the expose event handler take care
>of rendering the image because at that time it is guaranteed that the
>Window is mapped.
>
>The problem, of course, is that no expose event is generated if the window
>is visible and mapped. Do you know the best way to "tickle" a window so
>that the expose event handler will be invoked to draw this new item?
>
What does this have to do with my original question??? I previously
stated that I did an XCopyArea of the depth-8 pixmap to the screen
just to make sure that my image had data, and it did. This is NOT
a problem with expose events, it has to do with XCopyPlane not
working!!!
Does anyone have a code fragment they could send demonstrating that
XCopyPlane works??? This would be very helpful!
Thanks!
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ENSCO Inc. MAIL: 445 Pineda Ct. Melbourne, Fl. 32940
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From: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice)
Subject: Re: Ancient islamic rituals
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Lines: 72
In <1pkqe2INN54n@lynx.unm.edu> cfaehl@vesta.unm.edu (Chris Faehl) writes:
>In article <1993Apr3.081052.11292@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
>[deleted, to get to the point:]
>>
>> Therefore, in a nutshell, my opinion is that pre-marital sex makes the
>> likelihood of extra-marital sex more probable. Furthermore,
>> in my opinion, extra-marital sex helps break down partnerships and leads
>> to greater divorce rates. This in turn, in my opinion, creates trauma
>> and a less stable environment for children, who are then, in my opinion,
>> more likely to grow up with psychological problems such as depression,
>> etc. And thus, sex outside of marriage is, in the long run, harmful to
>> society.
>I think that you are drawing links where there are none - having sex before
>marriage has nothing to do with adultery once committed into marriage. The
>issue as I see it is more of how committed you are to not foisting pain on
>your spouse, and how confident you are about yourself.
> In addition, what someone does within their marriage is their own
>business, not mine, and not yours. I have witnessed strong relationships
>that incorporate extra-marital sex.
> I would agree with your assertion about children - children should not be witness to such confusing relationships - if adultery is stressful to
>adults, which I assume it in general is, how can we expect children to
>understand it?
>>
>> Where is the evidence for my opinions? At the moment, there are just
>> generalities I can cite. For example, I read that in the 20th century,
>> the percentage of youth (and people in general) who suffer from
>> depression has been steadily climbing in Western societies (probably
>> what I was reading referred particularly to the USA). Similarly, one
>> can detect a trend towards greater occurrence of sex outside of marriage
>> in this century in Western societies -- particularly with the "sexual
>> revolution" of the 60's, but even before that I think (otherwise the
>> "sexual revolution" of the 60's would not have been possible),
>> particularly with the gradual weakening of Christianity and consequently
>> Christian moral teachings against sex outside of marriage. I propose
>> that these two trends -- greater level of general depression in society
>> (and other psychological problems) and greater sexual promiscuity -- are
>> linked, with the latter being a prime cause of the former. I cannot
>> provide any evidence beyond this at this stage, but the whole thesis
>> seems very reasonable to me and I request that people ponder upon it.
>Why is it more reasonable than the trend towards obesity and the trend towards
>depression? You can't just pick your two favorite trends, notice a correlation
>in them, and make a sweeping statement of generality. I mean, you CAN, and
>people HAVE, but that does not mean that it is a valid or reasonable thesis.
>At best it's a gross oversimplification of the push-pull factors people
>experience.
My argument is mainly a proposal of what I think is a plausible argument
against extra-marital sex -- one which I personally believe has some
truth. My main purpose for posting it here is to show that a
_plausible_ argument can be made against extra-marital sex. At this
stage I am not saying that this particular viewpoint is proven or
anything like that, just that it is plausible. To try to convince you
all of this particular point of view, I would probably have to do a lot
of work researching what has been done in this field, etc., in order to
gather further evidence, which I simply do not have time to do now.
Also note that I said that I think extra-marital sex is "a prime cause"
(in my opinion) of the generally greater levels of psychological
problems, especially depression, in Western societies. I am not saying
it is "the prime cause" or "the only cause", just "a prime cause" --
i.e. one of the significant contributions to this trend. I think when
you say you think my view is simplistic, you have forgotten this -- I
admit that there are probably other factors, but I do think that
extra-marital sex (and, IMO, subsequent destabilization of the family)
is a significant factor in the rise in psychological problems like
depression in Western society this century.
Fred Rice
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
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From: ikos@netcom.com (Ikos)
Subject: Where can I buy a BIOS?
Summary: Just as the subject sez...
Keywords: BIOS, motherboard, Phoenix, Mylex, Microtimes
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Lines: 22
I'm in the market to upgrade my BIOS to a Phoenix 1.10 (got a new hard disk,
discovered my BIOS doesn't have a "type 47") and I would like know where I
can purchase one of these things.
I checked with the motherboard manufacturer (for the curious-- it's from
Mylex), and hearing the $60 figure prompted me to at least try to shop
around...
Problem is, I don't know where to shop around for something like this.
I have heard that there's a BIOS speciality shop in the South Bay and it's
been alleged that they advertise in the MicroTimes.
Did find the MicroTimes, didn't find the ad or the shop.
So, can anybody help me out on this quest?
To anybody who replies to this-- Thanks in advance.
-Jeff Chan | These are my opinions. It
jeff@ikos.com (*not* ikos@netcom.com) | would be quite silly if it
..!netcom!ikos!jeff | was also my company's...
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From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: was:Go Hezbollah!
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: NCSU Chem Eng
Lines: 132
In article <2BCF287A.25524@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
|
|> >In article <1993Apr16.130037.18830@ncsu.edu>, hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu
|> (Brad Hernlem) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|> In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu
|> (Tim Clock) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|> Are you suggesting that, when guerillas use the population for cover,
|> >|> Israel should totally back down? So...the easiest way to get away with
|> >|> attacking another is to use an innocent as a shield and hope that the
|> >|> other respects innocent lives?
|>
|> > Tell me Tim, what are these guerillas doing wrong? Assuming that they are
|> > using civilians for cover,
|>
|> "Assuming"? Also: come on, Brad. If we are going to get anywhere in
|> this (or any) discussion, it doesn't help to bring up elements I never
|> addressed, *nor commented on in any way*. I made no comment on who is
|> "right" or who is "wrong", only that civilians ARE being used as cover
|> and that, having been placed "in between" the Israelis and the guerillas,
|> they *will* be injured as both parties continue their fight.
Pardon me Tim, but I do not see how it can be possible for the IDF to fail
to detect the presence of those responsible for planting the bomb which
killed the three IDF troops and then later know the exact number and
whereabouts of all of them. Several villages were shelled. How could the IDF
possibly have known that there were guerrillas in each of the targetted
villages? You see, it was an arbitrary act of "retaliation".
|> > If the buffer zone is to prevent attacks on Israel, is it not working? Why
|> > is it further neccessary for Israeli guns to pound Lebanese villages? Why
|> > not just kill those who try to infiltrate the buffer zone? You see, there
|> > is more to the shelling of the villages.... it is called RETALIATION...
|> > "GETTING BACK"..."GETTING EVEN". It doesn't make sense to shell the
|> > villages. The least it shows is a reckless disregard by the Israeli
|> > government for the lives of civilians.
|>
|> I agree with you here. I have always thought that Israel's bombing
|> sortees and bombing policy is stupid, thoughtless, inhumane AND
|> ineffective. BUT, there is no reason that Israel should passive wait
|> until attackers chose to act; there is every reason to believe that
|> "taking the fight *to* the enemy" will do more to stop attacks.
|>
|> As I said previously, Israel spent several decades "sitting passively"
|> on its side of a border and only acting to stop these attacks *after*
|> the attackers had entered Israeli territory. It didn't work very well.
|> The "host" Arab state did little/nothing to try and stop these attacks
|> from its side of the border with Israel so the number of attacks
|> were considerably higher, as was their physical and psychological impact
|> on the civilians caught in their path.
The problem, Tim, is that the original reason for the invasion was Palestinian
attacks on Israel, NOT Lebanese attacks.
|> >
|> >|> What?So the whole bit about attacks on Israel from neighboring Arab states
|> >|> can start all over again? While I also hope for this to happen, it will
|> >|> only occur WHEN Arab states show that they are *prepared* to take on the
|> >|> responsibility and the duty to stop guerilla attacks on Israel from their
|> >|> soil. They have to Prove it (or provide some "guaratees"), there is no way
|> >|> Israel is going to accept their "word"- not with their past attitude of
|> >|> tolerance towards "anti-Israel guerillas in-residence".
|> >|>
|> > If Israel is not willing to accept the "word" of others then, IMHO, it has
|> > no business wasting others' time coming to the peace talks.
|>
|> This is just another "selectively applied" statement.
|>
|> The reason for this drawn-out impasse between Ababs/Palestinians and Israelis
|> is that NEITHER side is willing to accept the Word of the other. By your
|> criteria *everyone* should stay away from the negotiations.
|>
|> That is precisely why the Palestinians (in their recent PISGA proposal for
|> the "interim" period after negotiations and leading up to full autonomy) are
|> demanding conditions that essentially define "autonomy" already. They DO
|> NOT trust that Israel will "follow through" the entire process and allow
|> Palestinians to reach full autonomy.
|>
|> Do you understand and accept this viewpoint by the Palestinians?
|> If you do, then why should Israel's view of Arabs/Palestinians
|> be any different? Why should they trust the Arab/Palestinians' words?
|> Since they don't, they are VERY reluctant to give up "tangible assets
|> (land, control of areas) in exchange for "words". For this reason,
|> they are also concerned about the sorts of "guarantees" they will have
|> that the Arabs WILL follow through on their part of any agreement reached.
First, I believe that my statement applies to both sides.
Having said that, I think it is neccessary to separate what is legitimately
negotiable and what is not. For example, no country has the right to abuse
one's human rights. Deciding whether there will be one or two states in
Palestine is a legitimate question. While de facto one state exists, Israel
must treat all within its domain equitably.
|> > Tim, you are ignoring the fact that the Palestinians in Lebanon have been
|> > disarmed. Hezbollah remains the only independent militia. Hezbollah does
|> > not attack Israel except at a few times such as when the IDF burned up
|> > Sheikh Mosavi, his wife, and young son.
|>
|> While the "major armaments" (those allowing people to wage "civil wars")
|> have been removed, the weapons needed to cross-border attacks still
|> remain to some extent. Rocket attacks still continue, and "commando"
|> raids only require a few easily concealed weapons and a refined disregard
|> for human life (yours of that of others). Such attacks also continue.
Yes, I am afraid that what you say is true but that still does not justify
occupying your neighbor's land. Israel must resolve its disputes with the
native Palestinians if it wants peace from such attacks.
|> > Of course, if Israel would withdraw from Lebanon
|> > and stop assassinating people and shelling villages they wouldn't
|> > make the Lebanese so mad as to do that.
|>
|> Bat guano. The situation you call for existed in the 1970s and attacks
|> were commonplace.
Not true. Lebanese were not attacking Israel in the 1970s. With a strong
Lebanese government (free from Syrian and Israeli interference) I believe
that the border could be adequately patrolled. The Palestinian heavy
weapons have been siezed in past years and I do not see as significant a
threat as once existed.
Please, Tim, don't fall into the trap of treating Lebanese and Palestinians
as all part of the same group. There are too many who think all Arabs or all
Muslims are the same. Too many times I have seen people support the bombing
of Palestinian camps in "retaliation" for an IDF death at the hands of the
Lebanese Resistance or the shelling of Lebanese villages in "retaliation" for
a Palestinian attack.
|> Tim
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From: leono@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Leon Olszewski )
Subject: DDE frustrations - Can you help?
Summary: Need help to get DDE to work
Keywords: DDE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 24
I am starting to work on a project using DDE to transfer data. The
application came with an Excel macro which can transfer the data.
I need to 'port' it to 1-2-3W. 1-2-3W uses a very different setup
for DDE macros.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to good references? I have
downloaded "WW01117: Windows Dynamic Exchange (DDE)" [the MS
Application Note]. Any books worth getting?
The specifics are:
Server application: Dionex AI-450 Chromatography Data System
Client application: 1-2-3 for Windows V1.1
Except for the macro, Dionex did not provide any documentation
for DDE. Also, I am having problems because I am trying to develop
the application on my PC, but to actually get data, you need to be
connect to the instrument. Any help here would be appreciated, too.
Thanks,
--
Leon M. Olszewski | Nothing is worse than having an itch you can
Internet: leono@uiuc.edu | never scratch. Leon - Bladerunner
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From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Nazi Eugenic Theories Circulated by CPR => (unconventional peace)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Lines: 20
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc8.ins.cwru.edu
First this man promotes the dissolution of the Jews through an
intermarriage process, and then says that it will be just a bunch
of 'fundamentalist' Jews who will object. This clown even called
for 'buying' the dissolution of the Jewish people.
Does this idiot mean to suggest that any Jew who objects to an
imibicilic notion like this is fundamentalist? Or does he simply
mean to insult the orthodox by using the word 'fundamentalist?'
I am not orthodox. I am not fundamentalist. I would desire a
genuine peace in the region more than this pinhead Davidsson can
ever understand. But when he shows his willingness to dismiss an
entire culture, he proves that the only thing more brain-boggling
than his stupidity is his willingness to display his stupidity in
this newsgroup.
Please take your hatred for the essence of Judaism and shove it
up your ass. Remember to pull your head out first.
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uunet!olivea!sgigate!sgiblab!adagio.panasonic.com!nntp-server.caltech.edu!keith
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
Lines: 15
bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) writes:
>My personal objection is that I find capital punishment to be
>cruel and unusual punishment under all circumstances.
It can be painless, so it isn't cruel. And, it has occurred frequently
since the dawn of time, so it is hardly unusual.
>I don't take issue with the numbers. A single innocent life taken
>is one too many.
But, innocents die due to many causes. Why have you singled out
accidental or false execution as the one to take issue with?
keith
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From: donrm@sr.hp.com (Don Montgomery)
Subject: Radio Shack Battery of the Month Club
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9.2]
Lines: 10
Radio Shack has canceled their "Battery of the Month" Club. Does
anyone know why?
They say they'll honor existing cards in customer hands, but no new
cards will be issued.
Don Montgomery
donrm@sr.hp.com
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Subject: Re: WFAN
From: csc2imd@cabell.vcu.edu (Ian M. Derby)
Expires: Sat, 1 May 1993 04:00:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University
Lines: 41
No, he's not nuts, WIP is second to none THE sports station. They
don't have Tony Bruno working ESPN radio and Al Morganti doing Friday
Night Hockey because they suck. I live in Richmond Va, but I visit
Phila often, and on the way I get WTEM Washington) and WIP. I hear
the FAN at night wherever I go (the signal used to be WNBC, when they
played golden oldies) because you can't avoid it. Of those three,
WIP has the best hosts hands down. Chuck Cooperstein isn't a homer,
and neither is Jody Mac. WTEM is too generic to be placed in the
catergory. In fact if you have heard WTEM and the FAN you notice the
theme music is identical...same ownership?? I think so! WIP is
totally original. Their hosts actually have a personality (this is a
knock at TEM (the TEAM) not the FAN because Mike and the Mad Dog and
Sommers are good) I mean comparing the morning guys in Philadelphia
to the ones in Washington is a total joke. Anyway, I like the FAN
and WIP, but I think the edge goes to 'IP.
When I get back from Philly, I go into withdraw cause Richmond has
nada except the national sports line (and those guys are totally
clueless)
I was really mad when WCAU was cancelled because they had Steve
Fredericks doing sports phone after the Phillies games. (WCAU is
another strong station, now it's an oldies station, but they still
have the Phillies) I started listening to the FAN because I heard he
went there. I finally heard him last summer and he wasn't the same
guy. Those NY fans got to him. I was glad to hear him back in
Philly when I went to see a few Eagles games.
I will admit, I am die hard EAGLES fan and WIP is basically an
Eagles station 365 days a year. BUT, I bet you the Phillies are in
control right now.
About the knock on G. Cobb, I like him. He knows the Eagles like a
book. I remember the weekend before they went to play San Fran,
(when everyone thought the Eagles would be blown away) Cobb said that
the Eagles usually play their best when no one believe they can win.
Well they were inches shy of pulling the victory.
Well that's my $.02
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From: schabel@calspan.com (Dave Schabel)
Subject: Re: Gun Nuts and Holly Silva
Article-I.D.: calspan.1993Apr5.215700.4600
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center
Lines: 45
Nntp-Posting-Host: riemann-gw
In article <C4tsD1.1vA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
>In article <1993Apr1.010834.4326@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Nice Guy) writes:
>>Both the " Gun Nuts" and the gays are aggressively defensive and quite
>>hostile to any one trying to deprive them of their rights. Just like
>>any group trying to protect their rights.
>
>The fallacy of this whole thing is that YOUR RIGHTS ARE NOT IN JEAPARDY
>BY THESE POSTS.
How can you say that? I presume that you mean that talking about
restricting rights is not the same as restricting those rights. Well,
arguing for those restrictions may lead to implementation, much
the same way as assault can lead to battery (legal definitions).
>Most t.p.g people and the homosexual groups won't even
>discuss the subject at all in a polite form. The mere raising of a question
>as to why the rights are there or what exactly the 'right' encompasses
>bring shrill posts and angry/hostile traffic.
Well, I can't speak for the homosexuals, but I've seen ALOT
of polite discussion on t.p.g. Please, everyone, don't take
this guy's word, or mine for that matter, on it. Read t.p.g.
for a while, and try to determine from which direction most of
the flameage originates. If you post without flamebait, you
will generally receive reasoned responses. True, there are
those who tend to lose their tempers quickly, as there are on
all newsgroups, but they really do feel their rights are in jeopardy.
Oh, and neat trick talking derisively about another newsgroup while
not crossposting to allow them to defend themselves.
>I think a lot of t.p.g people have very thin skin when it comes to
>discussing these subjects.
Methinks you doth protest too much.
Dave Schabel
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From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Some more about gun control...
Nntp-Posting-Host: cds709.cadence.com
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Lines: 24
In article <1993Apr16.010235.14225@mtu.edu> cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter) writes:
>You didn't even get the capitalization correct! Try reading USCA on
>the Constitution, or get any other CORRECT version of the
>Constitution.
This is REALLY STUPID nitpicking. Capitalization rules in the late 18th
century were quite different from today, and what was posted matches current
capitalization rules.
We also don't make 's' look like 'f' and other such things done in the late
seventeen hundreds.
In the original Constitution, "militia", "arms", etc. were capitalized simply
because they were nouns. This is also done currently in German. There is
no special significance to these words simply because they are capitalized.
The capitalization denotes no special emphasis.
-Pete Zakel
(phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)
ARIES (Mar 21 - Apr 19)
You are the pioneer type and hold most people in contempt. You are
quick tempered, impatient, and scornful of advice. You are not very
nice.
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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Subject: Re: Playoff telecasts in Atlanta
Organization: UB
Lines: 29
Nntp-Posting-Host: lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu
In article <1q9noa$d90@hsdndev.harvard.edu> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes:
>In article <IflYr6y00WB4A6F60A@andrew.cmu.edu> Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know if all the Patrick division games are going to be televised
>>on ESPN and ABC? If some games are going to be left out(Or blanked out by
>>dumb southern ABC affiliates), I was wondering if anyone out there knows
>>of any sports bars in Atlanta which are frequented by hockey fans. I don't
>>want to miss out on any of the Pens games. I am sure that there are some
>>Islander fans(now that the rangers are dead) who would want to watch every
>>Pens-Islanders game in Atlanta.
>
>
>Circle Tuesday,April 20th on your TV calendar. ESPN will carry Game#2
>from Pittsburgh's Civic Arena or as they are advetising it : Pittsburgh vs.
>4th place Partick Div. finisher. Personally, Bruins-Buffalo or Montreal-
>Quebec City is a much better matchup but ESPN is hoping for a spoiler
>in the Pens series which it's not likely to get the way Mario has been
>playing for the past month or so.
I'd personally prefer Buffalo-Boston, as a birthday gift from ESPN,
but I don't think the folks at ESPN will accomodate that for me ;-)
ESPN has this inexplicable affinity for the Patrick division, it
seems.
--
Valerie Hammerl "Some days I have to remind him he's not
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu Mario Lemieux." Herb Brooks on Claude
acscvjh@ubms.cc.buffalo.edu Lemieux, top scorer for the Devils, but
v085pwwpz@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu known for taking dumb penalties.
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From: egerter@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Barry Egerter)
Subject: Re: Graphics Library Package
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Nntp-Posting-Host: obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca
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WGT is the WordUp Graphics Toolkit, designed by yours truly and my
co-programmer (and brother) Chris Egerter. It is a Turbo/Borland C++ graphics
library for programming in 320*200*256 VGA. We are currently producing it as
shareware, but in a few years it may be a commercial product (excuse typos,
there's no backspace on this terminal). Features include:
- loading and saving bit-images (called blocks from herein)
- flipping, resizing and warping blocks
- loading and saving palette, fading, several in memory at once
- graphics primitives such as line, circle, bar, rectangle
- region fill (not the usually useless floodfill)
- sprites (animated bitmaps), up to 200 onscreen at once
- joystick/mouse support
- SB support (VOC and CMF)
- tile-based game creation using 16*16 pixel tiles to create
a 320*200 tile map (or game world) like in Duke Nuke 'Em
- number of sprites increased to 1000
- Professional Sprite Creator utility and Map Maker
- routines to simplify scrolling games using maps, etc
- FLI playing routines, sprites can be animated over the FLI while playing
- PCX support, soon GIF
- EMS/XMS coming soon as well
Leave E-mail to Barry Egerter at egerter@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Files available on: (use mget wgt*.zip)
SIMTEL20 and mirrors pd1:<msdos.turbo-c>
nic.funet.fi pub/msdos/games/programming
Some sites may not have recent files, contact me for info regarding the up-to-
date information.
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From: nrp@st-andrews.ac.uk (Norman R. Paterson)
Subject: Re: Genocide is Caused by Atheism
Organization: Association Against Having Fun With Your Clothes On
Lines: 23
In article <1993Apr5.020504.19326@ultb.isc.rit.edu> snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.N. Mozumder ) writes:
[...]
>One of the reasons that you are atheist is that you limit God by giving
>God a form. God does not have a "face".
Wait a minute. I thought you said that Allah (I presume Allah == God) was unknowable,
and yet here you are claiming to know a very concrete fact about him.
You say that God does not have a "face". Doesn't the bible say that God has hindparts?
How do you suggest I decide which (if any) of you is right? Or are you both right?
God has hindparts but no face? Or does your use of quotation marks:
God does not have a "face".
allow you to interpret this to mean whatever you like?
>
>Peace,
>
>Bobby Mozumder
-Norman
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From: viralbus@daimi.aau.dk (Thomas Martin Widmann)
Subject: Position of 'b' on Erg. Keyboard
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Lines: 12
So far I have only seen pictures of the new ergonomic keyboard,
but it seems that the 'b' is placed on the left part after the split.
However, when I learned typing in school some years ago, I was taught
to write 'b' with my right hand. Is this a difference between Danish
and American typing, or what???
Thanks a lot in advance!
--
Thomas Widmann -Lernu Esperanton-
viralbus@daimi.aau.dk SOLIDVM PETIT IN LINGVIS
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From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.
Lines: 33
In article <C5L1Ey.Jts@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes:
>In <11825@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) writes:
>
>
>> Actually, my atheism is based on ignorance. Ignorance of the
>> existence of any god. Don't fall into the "atheists don't believe
>> because of their pride" mistake.
>
>How do you know it's based on ignorance, couldn't that be wrong? Why would it
>be wrong
>to fall into the trap that you mentioned?
>
If I'm wrong, god is free at any time to correct my mistake. That
he continues not to do so, while supposedly proclaiming his
undying love for my eternal soul, speaks volumes.
As for the trap, you are not in a position to tell me that I don't
believe in god because I do not wish to. Unless you can know my
motivations better than I do myself, you should believe me when I
say that I earnestly searched for god for years and never found
him.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM
They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,
and sank Manhattan out at sea.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From: damelio@progress.COM (Stephen D'Amelio)
Subject: Re: Ford and the automobile
Nntp-Posting-Host: elba
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Lines: 19
rwong@eis.calstate.edu (Russel Wong) writes:
>Hello, my name is Russell Wong and I am doing a research project on Henry
>Ford and his automobile. I need information on whether Ford is
>partially responsible for all of the car accidents
Ya, he cut me off on 128 the other day, he drives like a crazy person.
I'd have to say he's responsible for most accidents, they really should
pull his licence.
-Steve
7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
Alan Kulwicki 1992 Winston Cup Champion
1954 - 1993
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From: C445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu (John Kelsey)
Subject: The wiretap chip, clones, and secure key-exchange
Nntp-Posting-Host: mizzou1.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Lines: 33
U23590@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>The cryptographic algorythm MUST be kept secret, or
>private individuals could make ClipperClones with
>which they could transmit messages which the feds would not have
>ready access to.
Not necessarily. I've been thinking about this, and if this chip/scheme
is to provide any real security, there must be some sort of key exchange,
either using a public-key encryption scheme, or using a key exchange scheme
like Diffie-Hellman. If there's an out-of-band transmission of a shared
session key, then what protects that band from eavesdropping? If the phone
company or some other online central authority generates a session key and
sends it to both users, then what's the point of going to the trouble of
having some complicated key-depositories? Just ask the phone company for
a copy of the session key for each call.
Now, it's probably not practical for each user to keep an online copy of
every public key used by anyone anywhere, right? So, probably, there will
be some way of getting these keys verified. This might be a digitally-
signed (by the chip manufacturer) copy of the public key in this unit,
stored by this unit. It might also be an online directory with access to
everyone's public keys. (This would introduce another weakness to the
security of the scheme, of course.) Presumably, if you don't use your
designated key, you can't get a verified connection to other standard chips.
It might be useful to have a modified chip, which would allow you to
use either the original public/private key pair, or some other key pair
and verification scheme. Unfortunately, this would not allow you to call
most people and establish secure communications....
--John Kelsey
>I hope somebody starts doing this soon after the first
>ones are released...
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From: JEK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: Thinking about heaven
Lines: 20
James Sledd asks:
1. What is the nature of eternal life?
2. How can we as mortals locked into space-time conceive of it?
2a. If the best we can do is metaphor/analogy, then what is the
best metaphor?
C S Lewis's essay THE WEIGHT OF GLORY deals with this question. I
recommend it enthusiastically. You might also read the chapter on
"Heaven" in his book THE PROBLEM OF PAIN. He gives a fictional
treatment in his book THE GREAT DIVORCE. I have found all of these
very helpful.
You might also be helped by the treatment in Dante's DIVINE COMEDY.
Heaven occupies the last third of the poem, but I cannot imagine
reading it other than from the beginning. I urge you to use the
translation by Dorothy L Sayers, available from Penguin Paperbacks.
Yours,
James Kiefer
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From: feilimau@leland.Stanford.EDU (Christopher Yale Lin)
Subject: Mac IIsi Power Limitations
Summary: What are they?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Lines: 9
I own a Mac IIsi and am considering upgrades (cards, hard drive, etc).
Can you tell me what the power limitations are for 1) the PDS slot
and 2) the hard drive power feed. Secondly, Can you tell me if there
is a separate limit for each, or if instead, there is a single limit
for both combined?
felix lin, a new reader of comp.sys.mac.hardware
feilimau@leland.stanford.edu
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From: martimer@jaguar.WPI.EDU (the random one...)
Subject: Re: VHS movie for sale
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: jaguar.wpi.edu
In article <1993Apr19.211400.1@hirama.hiram.edu> koutd@hirama.hiram.edu (DOUGLAS KOU) writes:
>VHS movie for sale.
>
>Dance with Wovies ($12.00)
^^^^^^ what the hell ios a 'wovie' ?? (wovy (sp))??
--
From there to here, from here to there,
funny things are everywhere Dr. Suess
..jonathan Sawitsky 'some random wierdo' martimer@wpi.wpi.edu...
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From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: Jack Morris
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Lines: 71
In <48178@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:
>In article <1993Apr19.212428.7530@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>The facts are that Morris
>|> has shown us that he has what it takes to play on a WS winning club.
>|> Clemens hasn't.
>What *does* it take to play on a WS winning club?
We have no way of knowing because we cannot separate Morris' contribu-
tion from the rest of the team's. There is only one way of determin-
ing "best" in baseball. And that is by looking at the scoreboard at
the end of the game. Each game determines which *team* is the best
that day. At the end of the season, the team that was the best the
most often is the best in the division. The playoffs determine the
best of the best. But the point is that the only decision making pro-
cess used to determine the "best" is the score of the game and it re-
lates to the *teams*. Not the individual players. There is no method
inherent in baseball of comparing individual performances. And that
is how it should be, because, after all, baseball is a team game.
To say that one player is better than another is to be able to say ab-
solutely that player A's team would have played better with player B
in their lineup. Sheer speculation. Impossible to ascertain.
If you want to select a group of statistics and claim that Clemens has
done better with those statistics as a criteria, then fine. But you
have to be able to prove that those statistics measure the
individual's contribution to winning the WS - because that is the
only measure of "best" that has any meaning in the context of base-
ball. So until you can prove that Clemens contributes to a WS cham-
pionship more than Morris your evaluation of Clemens is totally sub-
jective and is mere opinion. I have yet to see that any of you can
predict a WS winner with any greater accuracy than Jeanne Dixon.
>The fact is that Morris didn't "win" any ballgames, Toronto did, in
>spite of Morris' "contribution". This has been explained to you
Exactly. The Jays won with Morris pitching. And Boston wins with
Clemens pitching. I am not saying that Morris is better than Clemens.
I am saying that individual comparisons between players are totally
meaningless and that anyone claiming that Clemens is better based on
his ERA has missed the point of what baseball is all about.
>many, many times and you are either too stupid or too stubborn to grasp it.
You don't have to be rude.
>You are completely consumed by the post hoc, ergo propter hoc fallacy.
For you to say that means that you have either missed the entire point
of my argument, or you yourself have committed a fallacy - Ignoratio
Elenchi. I am not saying that Morris is better than Clemens because
he has more rings (although I have, tongue in cheek, claimed
that in the past). I am saying that it is impossible to isolate an
individual's performance from that of his team's for the purpose of
comparing that individual's performance with another individual's per-
formance.
The stats are a nice hobby and that's about it. There is no new
knowledge being produced. So when a poster claims that Morris is better
than Clemens because he has more rings, the poster is no more nor less
incorrect than the rest of you baying hounds.
--
cordially, as always, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
"So many morons...
rm ...and so little time."
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From: gsfever@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Brent Kirkwood)
Subject: Casio Digital Diary
Nntp-Posting-Host: okcforum.osrhe.edu
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Lines: 15
For Sale : Casio Digital Diary Electronic Organizer (SF-4000)
32k RAM
will hold approxmiately 1500 names/phone numbers
Big 6 line display
200 Year Visible Calendar
Schedule Function
Memo Bank
Telephone Name, Number, Address Storage
Calculator
Compact folding design fits in your pocket
The above for $25. It was originally purchased for over $100. Mail to
gsfever@okcforum.osrhe.edu if interested. Price does not include shipping.
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From: rint69@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (rintoul bradley e)
Subject: Re: NEWS YOU MAY HAVE MISSED, Apr 20
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 4
Why do you insist on reposting the entire original post?
Don't waste bandwidth, please. You know how picky us non-
Jews can be. Ha Ha. :|
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From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 21
In article <1993Apr17.022222.28105@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st923336@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (BLORT! eeeep! Hwaaah.) writes:
# Actually, I was rather surprised to see an article on this subject
# (i.e. the "new, inproved" survey saying that roughly 1% of men are gay)
# on the front page of The New York _Times_ recently (I think it was
# on Thurs, 15 April). The headline was something to the effect of
# "New Survey Finds 1% of Men Are Gay"
#
# I was shocked, not because the New York _Times_ was running a story
# on a sex survey (although that was part of it), but because they thought
# that this news was actually important enough to warrant front page space.
# I mean, how many people actually CARE how many people are gay (as long as
# you know how to find/avoid them if you want to)? I don't.
If you don't care, why was so much effort put into promoting the
10% lie? Because it was important to scare politicians into
obedience.
# -Matt
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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From: behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Advice on CB900 Custom purchase
Keywords: CB900, purchase
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr14.204821.8497@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>In article <93Apr14.185235.31833@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>>My mechanic once commented that the 'dual range' transmission was
>>pure junk. One mans opinion...
>>
I had a friend in Pittsburgh who had a CB1000C with the dual-range
tranny on it. He usually only used the "economy" range to get an overdrive
sixth gear out of it. He had 59000 miles on it when it was stolen. It was
recovered shortly after that, repaired, and, for all I know, it's still going
strong.
The CB1000C was a shaft-driven overbore version of the CB900 and was
made for exactly one year (yep, head and base gaskets are VERY expensive).
Helluva bike.
A data point,
--
Chris BeHanna DoD# 114 1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com 1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
Disclaimer: Now why would NEC 1991 ZX-11 - needs a name
agree with any of this anyway? I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.
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From: Daniel.Prince@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Daniel Prince)
Subject: Re: Can men get yeast infections?
Lines: 13
To: smithmc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lost Boy)
LB> I know from personal experience that men CAN get yeast infections. I
LB> get rather nasty ones from time to time, mostly in the area of the
LB> scrotum and the base of the penis.
I used to have problems with recurrent athlete's foot until I
started drying between my toes with my blow drier after each time
I bathe. I also dry my pubic area while I am at it to prevent
problems. You might want to try it.
... My cat types with his tail.
* Origin: ONE WORLD Los Angeles 310/372-0987 32b (1:102/129.0)
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From: oecjtb@oec4.orbital.dialix.oz.au (John Bongiovanni)
Subject: SUMMARY: Borland/Microsoft Database C Libraries
Organization: Orbital Engine Company
Lines: 384
Well, I'm amazed at how successful this exercise was. I received 20
responses and 4 requests for summary. Thanks to everyone who made it
possible.
On my own I was able to find out about Codebase, Accsys, and Q+E. Codebase
and Accsys are C libraries without SQL. Q+E is a Windows application
that can be communicated through Windows DDE calls, where you send a SQL
string and receive the results.
Most people wrote to tell me about the Paradox Engine from Borland. Other
products mentioned were: Microsoft's ODBC, Accsys, Quadbase, Codebase,
RBASE, and Q+E. Only ODBC, Quadbase, RBASE, and Q+E have SQL.
For myself, I decided on Codebase, mostly because it has an ANSI C
portability version that runs under DOS, UNIX, etc, and includes the
source code, and portability is important in my application. It works
with DBASE, FoxPro, or Clipper files.
However, I feel that Microsoft's ODBC looks very promising.
It's mostly a formalisation of building and submitting SQL queries, and
formatting query results. As the responses say, it's available via ftp,
except it's effectively unusuable without two manuals:
the "ODBC Programmer's Reference" and the "ODBC SDK Guide". Moreover,
ODBC doesn't actually interpret SQL and liase with databases, that's
up to drivers that should be provided by database manufacturers. Also,
it's Windows only (it's actually an extension to the Windows SDK).
Nevertheless, it's a start at a SQL interface standard, and should
make life interesting in the future.
Here's my original post, followed by the responses, separated by
a line of asterisks (*).
> Does anyone know if Borland or Microsoft have libraries for accessing
> their respective databases (Paradox, FoxPro) from within C programs?
> I'd really like to be able to build a SQL query string and pass it
> to a function which returns the query results in some format. Failing
> that, any other access would still be better than nothing.
>
> I'd also like to hear of third party libraries for doing the same thing.
>
> If other people are interested, I'll prepare a summary of what I'm
> told and post it.
>
> Thanks to all.
****************************************************************************
Borland has a product called Paradox Engine that does just what you want.
The current version is 3.0, which is fully compatible with (ack) Paradox
4.0. (Why the versions are different, I don't know. PD Engine 2.0 was
compatible with Pdox 3.0 and 3.5...). It consists of a rather broad
library of functions for accesing database files from both Pascal (I think
turbo Pascal 5.5 and up) and C (I think either Microsoft or Borland).
Now.. reading the box... it's "Borland Paradox Engine & Database
Frameworks". Works with any Borland C/C++, Mocrosoft C 6.01 or later,
Turbo C++ for Windows, Turbo Pascal 6.0 or later, TP for Windows 1.0 or
later. For Framework applications, BC++ 3.0 or later or MS C/C++ 7.0. It
does have support for object useage...
I haven't had a real chance to really use it myself... but it looks fairly
complete... I'm planning to use it this summer.
-Rick
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Borland has a product which is called Paradox Engine.
I do not know about MS.
The paradox engine I know very well, and it definitiely
not a replacement for SQL, but it will enable you to
save and restore records, has locking, et al. Supposedly
the Paradox for Windows was impemented on top of it.
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I know Borland has a library of routines for accessing PARADOX from within
a C program. They recently came out with version 3.0. This works with both
Borland and Microsoft's C compiler.
shailesh bhobe
(708) 979-7101
att!psp!smb2
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MS has put their ODBC SDK into the public domain; it's
_big_ (I believe 1.8 MB), but worth downloading over a
fast link. Look at ftp.uu.net in vendor/microsoft/odbc-sdk.
Also some companies are starting to provide SQL engines; I
just got one for RBASE, not exactly cheap at $450, but it
allows programs in C or VBASIC (under DOS or Windows) to talk
to data bases using SQL functions in your code.
hth
Walter Knopf
Fermilab
knopf@fnal.fnal.gov
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Check out the ODBC toolikt from Microsoft. It is available on
ftp.uu.net:vendor/microsoft/odbc-sdk. This is the way that we've
chosen to access databases from all of our apps.
mj
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Borland sells the "Paradox Engine" which is a C language interface to
Paradox, dBase, Btrieve, ans ASCI files. They also sell "Database Frameworks"
which includes the engine plus a collection (with source) of C++ classes
for using the engine.
--
Earl Roethke
eroethke@ems.cdc.com
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I actualy have Paradox Engine. It is a library of functions (large model)
for accessing the Paradox's databases. It seems to be working fine,
but I never did try it thouroughly. It costs ~200$.
Hope it will help you...
From: David Lefebvre <david@hp817.speedware.com>
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Borland provides a database lib called Paradox Engine which can access
and use the database files aswell as many other things.
Gary.
--
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| Gary Bell |
| Department of Robotics and Digital Technology |
|Faculty of Computing, Caulfield Campus, Monash University, Australia |
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Paradox Engine is the library for Paradox .
Artur Babecki
artur@ii.uj.edu.pl
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Borland sells the Paradox Engine -- which has all the Paradox calls in it.
Its hardly SQL though. You can do searches on key fields and on
indivual fields, but no comparison operators like <, >=....
so its pretty painful (in my opinion) do do anything besides simple
retrieval and inserts/updates.
I'm currently using it (I have an eval copy..) and I've linked it in to
some entry screens I've written.
The Engine library adds about 100K to the size of the program, but you can
load it as an overlay using Borland's VROOM manager.
Now Borland claims that later versions of the engine will have SQL support
but they don't really expect it till late in the year... or even next year
They are trying to get thrid parties to help out..
If you have any other questions -- let me know...
Mike Kamlet
mike@vpnet.chi.il.us
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Yes, borland sells their Paradox Engine separately. It has C, C++, and
Pascal interfaces, although the underlying interface is in 'C'. Well at
least for version 2.0 of the Engine which I have (costed $99 at Egghead).
They now have version 3.0 of the engine, and a separate C++ class package
for it.
--
Michael D. Kersenbrock
ADC Kentrox - Portland, Oregon
michaelk@kentrox.com
uunet!kentrox!michaelk
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I've used AccSys for Paradox (new version is almost ready for Paradox
4.0) to access Paradox files from C. Its pretty good. Not SQL
though. Have heard of Borland Paradox Engine or some such which is
supposed to do likewise, but not sure of what it is exactly.
Hope this helps, good luck!
chris
From: fernand@slinky.cs.nyu.edu (Christopher Fernandes)
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Borland sells their "Paradox Engine (3.0)". It's a library of functions
for accessing paradox DB files. It comes with libraries for:
MS C 7.0
BCC 3.1
Turbo Pascal (v??)
and I believe it comes with Turbo Pascal/Win libraries as well.
The C libraries come in both DOS and Windows flavors (the win stuff
being dll's).
When I got it, it also came with Crystal Reports which
is a graphical report generator. It allows you to create a generic
form and use it within a compiled program using Pdox Engine. I don't
know if they still offer it or what the current price is, I paid
something like $50-$60 for an upgrade from the earlier version though...
Hope this helps...
-David Taylor
---
| ->> The Commander <<-- | It is easier to change the |
|Internet: gt2847c@prism.gatech.edu| specification to fit the program |
| Also: dtaylor@cfd.gatech.edu | than vice-versa. |
| And: root@cfd.gatech.edu | -Author Unknown (but very wise :-) |
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If you want to do SQL from within your programs, check out QuadBase. I don't
have their address oops -- yes I do! :
QuadBase Systems, Inc.
790 Lucerne Dr #51
Sunnyvale, CA 94086 (USA)
phone: 408-738-6989 (voice) 408-738-6980 (fax)
Ask for the SQL/Win demo disk.
It looked good to me (I have a background in embedded SQL in Ingres -- this
looked real similar). It's a little expensive, but if you order the demo
and then just wait they will probably send you a special offer that'll
probably run about $500 US. Good luck!
Best,
Tom DeLosh
From: delosh@emunix.emich.edu (Tom Delosh)
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Borland has the Paradox Engine library. It has libraries for
both C and Pascal to access Paradox files under DOS/Windows.
But for Paradox, I believe you'd have buy have the SQL Link
since Pdox itself isn't SQL compliant. I've used the engine
for over a year now and have been pretty satisfied with it.
Under DOS, it's a real pig. It tacks on about 120K to the size of
your programs.
tim ma
associate programmer
university of utah
email: tim@src.cppa.utah.edu
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I don't know about Microsoft, but Borland sells the Paradox Engine for C/C++ &
Pascal (in one package). And if you want dBase compatible files there is a
library called CodeBase from Sequiter software that works with C/C++.
From: davidr@rincon.ema.rockwell.com (David J. Ray)
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We're using Q+E database libraries to do what you describe.
It's a set of DLL's accessed through a common API to talk to most of the
major database formats. We're using it to build an application that
queries several databases using SQL queries. _All_ access using Q+E is
done using SQL. The package is available through Microway in Melbourne. I
believe it is produced by Pioneer Systems in the US. We have no
association with Microway or Pioneer Systems other than being satisfied
customers. Feel free to mail me for further information.
Chris
(Programming for NSW National Parks and Wildlife Service)
--
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Chris Hutchinson Box U302
Research Programmer University of New England
chris@sulaw.law.su.OZ.AU Armidale NSW 2351
(067) 727 014
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Paradox Engine 3.0 provides a complete set of C libraries for
accessing Paradox tables. However, it seems that it supports
only Borland/Turbo C and MicroSoft C. When I tried to compile
the engine's sample applications with the Waterloo WATCOM C/C++
(32-bit) compiler, it complains that the library file LLIBCE.LIB
is missing even though I am quite certain that the file is NOT
part of WATCOM C or the engine. Anybody have any success with
other C compilers?
Ron.K.Ng@hydro.on.ca
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I'm currently developing an app. with Borland's "Paradox Engine
for C" (it also comes in Pascal), which has recently gone to version 3.0
(I.e., PX Engine 3.0 is compatible with Paradox 4.0, and downward compat.
w/3.5). There are indeed C libs for Fox access, but I can't think of the
names offhand - I'm sure someone has already written you in that regard -
(I think I just saw an add for a Fox lib in the "C Users Journal", which
is a good place to look for this type of package in general, by the way).
I've been paying my dues to learn a lot of the quirks of PX Eng. over the
past year - wouldn't recommend it for a complex multiuser app.--but I'm
staying with it for now--it's like a bad marriage: I've got too much time
invested in learning and work-arounds! But if your interest is limited
to a simple single-user interface (you want to build your own SQL engine,
I take it), PX Engine will do the job easily - it doesn't sound like
you'll be bumping into any of the gotchas. If you do, write me; I may
be able to point you in the right direction.
From: raymond@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us (raymond)
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Borland has a "Paradox Engine and Database Framework 3.0" which gives you
a "C" (and assembler?) API to Paradox databases. This is part of "BOCA"
-- Borland's Object Component Architecture. They have technical briefs
on BOCA, PdoxEng, and other products of theirs.
From: jdm@jumbo.Read.TASC.COM (James D. McNamara)
------------------- James D. McNamara | TASC --------------------
55 Walkers Brook Drive | Reading, MA 01867-3238 | 617-942-2000x2948
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--
John Bongiovanni, Systems Analyst, Orbital Engine Company, Perth, Australia
oecjtb@oec4.orbital.dialix.oz.au, bongo@alumni.caltech.edu
Opinions expressed are my own and not those of my organisation.
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From: sommerfeld@apollo.hp.com (Bill Sommerfeld)
Subject: A little political philosophy worth reading.
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Organization: Hewlett Packard
Read this through once or twice. Then replace "prince" with
"government" or "president", as appropriate, and read it again.
[From Chapter XX of _The Prince_, by N. Macchiavelli, as translated by
Daniel Donno.]
In order to keep their lands secure, some princes have
disarmed their subjects; others have prompted division within the
cities they have subjugated. Some have nurtured animosities against
themselves; others have sought to win the approval of those they
initially distrusted. Some have erected fortresses; others have
destroyed them. Now, although it is impossible to set down definite
judgements on all of these measures without considering the particular
circumstances of the states where they may be employed, I shall
nevertheless discuss them in such broad terms as the subject itself
will allow.
To begin with, there has never been a case of a new prince
disarming his subjects. Indeed, whenever he found them disarmed, he
proceeded to arm them. For by arming your subjects, you make their
arms your own. Those among them who are suspicious become loyal,
while those who are already loyal remain so, and from subjects they
are transformed into partisans. Though you cannot arm them all,
nonetheless you increase your safety among those you leave unarmed by
extending privileges to those you arm. Your different treatment of
the two categories will make the latter feel obligated to you, while
the former will consider it proper thoat those who assume added duties
and dangers should receive advantages.
When you disarm your subjects, however, you offend them, by
showing that, either from cowardliness or from lack of faith, you
distrust them; and either conclusion will induce them to hate you.
Moreover, since it is impossible for you to remain unarmed, you would
have to resort to mercenaries, whose limitations have already been
discussed. Even if such troops were good, however, they could never be
good enough to defend you from powerful enemies, and doubtful
subjects. Therefore, as I have said, a new prince in a newly acquired
state has always taken measures to arm his subjects, and history is
full of examples proving that this is so.
But when a prince takes posession of a new state which he
annexes as an addition to his original domain, then he must disarm all
the subjects of the new state except those who helped him to acquire
it; and these, as time and occasion permit, he must seek to render
soft and weak. He must arrange matters in such a way that the arms of
the entire state will be in the hands of soldiers who are native to
his original domain.
...
And since the subject demands it, I will not fail to remind
any prince who has acquired a new state by the aid of its inhabitants
that he soundly consider what induced them to assist him; if the
reason is not natural affection for him, but rather dissatisfaction
with the former government, he will find it extremely difficult to
keep them friendly, for it will be impossible to please them. If he
will carefully think the matter through in the light of examples drawn
from ancient and modern affairs, he will understand why it is much
easier to win the favor of those who were happy with their former
government, and hence were his enemies, than to keep the favor of
those who, out of dissatisfaction with the former rule, helped him to
replace it.
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From: gspira@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Spira)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
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You can add Steve Rosenberg, one-time White Sox reliever now in the Mets
system, to the list.
Greg
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From: jyow@desire.wright.edu
Subject: CAMERA: Olympus Stylus, super small
Organization: Wright State University
Lines: 9
Olympus Stylus, 35mm, pocket sized, red-eye reduction, timer, fully automatic.
Time & date stamp, carrying case. Smallest camera in its class.
Rated #2 in Consumer Reports. Excellent condition and only 4 months old.
Worth $169.95. Purchased for $130. Selling for $100.
--
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Jason Yow Human Factors Psychology Program
Wright State University, Dayton, OH E-mail: jyow@desire.wright.edu
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From: luriem@alleg.edu(Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer
Subject: Re: Pleasant Yankee Surprises
Organization: Allegheny College
Lines: 22
In article <120399@netnews.upenn.edu> sepinwal@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Alan
Sepinwall) writes:
>
> Some pleasant (and then some not so pleasant) surprises about the 1993
> edition of the Bronx Bombers so far.
>
> 4)Wickman. A friend made a comparison between Wickman and Jack
> Morris - they never have impressive stats but they always
> find some way to win (although Morris seems to be losing that
> ability). I figured that Wickman would be the least important
> part of the Steve Sax trade (best trade since we got that Ruth
> guy), maybe winding up as a good middle reliever. But I like
what
> I've seen so far. He doesn't pitch pretty, but he gets the job
done.
>
Actually, I kind of liked the Abott trade. We did trade the rookie of
the year, SNOW, but with Don mattingly at first for another 8 years, Why
bother.
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From: howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland)
Subject: Re: Safe driving prcatices...
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Lines: 32
In article <5028@cvbnetPrime.COM>,
rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes:
|> Never dilly-dally in that rear 1/4 of either side of a cage - when you pass
|> make it as POSITIVE as possible and if you can't pass fully, at least make
|> sure that if you attempt it you can make the driver aware of you by at least
|> getting into his area of vision.
This reads a lot like the philosophies of Musashi,
in the Book of Five Rings. Much of the section on
the long sword is that of being strong and decisive.
Hmmm. The more things change....
|> Ride with four eyes...
What an awfull thing to call your pillion!
|> Rich
|> "Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil, but heaven protect
|> us from the evil men do in the name of good"
Power corrupts. Check out the explosion that the
cryptography policy from the WhiteHouse Friday
has caused....
---
Curt Howland "Ace" DoD#0663 EFF#569
howland@nsipo.nasa.gov '82 V45 Sabre
Meddle not in the afairs of Wizards,
for it makes them soggy and hard to re-light.
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From: redsonja@olias.linet.org (Red Sonja)
Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption
Distribution: na
Organization: Long Island Pubnet - long may it rave!
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In article <1qmugcINNpu9@gap.caltech.edu> hal@cco.caltech.edu (Hal Finney) writes:
>The key question is whether non-Clipper encryption will be made illegal.
>
It seems pretty obvious that it will be made illegal if VERY LOUD NOISE is
not made about this IMMEDIATELY to Congress and the House!
>It looks like the worst nightmares raised by Dorothy Denning's proposals
>are coming true. If the government continues on this course, I imagine
>that we will see strong cryptography made illegal. Encryption programs
>for disk files and email, as well as software to allow for encrypted
>voice communications, will be distributed only through the
>"underground". People will have to learn how to hide the fact that
>they are protecting their privacy.
I don't know what's worse - the waste of money, or the fact that (in SPITE
of all Clinton's rhetoric to the contrary) this is a feeble attempt by
a large group of bored intelligence bureaucrats to justify their currently
useless jobs. Clinton said he was going to trim the fat from the government.
This doesn't look very dietetic to me!
As I said before in this group: drug dealing and terrorism both tend to
be international crimes which are not going to cease if the US starts to
regulate encryption. The drug dealers and terrorists will simply go to
other countries to communicate their plans, and will still carry them out
here and/or wherever else. This is not the solution to the problem.
They try to invent a new problem by saying we "need" encryption. I guess
it's a good thing Bill Gates isn't a 4-star general or we would all "need"
our own copies of MS-DOS too, right?
Und vee haff vays uff findink out iff you are usink DOCTOR DOS!!
>It's shocking and frightening to see that this is actually happening here.
Our health care and education systems are in the toilet and they come up
with THIS pearl. If this goddamned government doesn't get a clue real quick
and start trying to repair the infrastructure of the country rather than
inventing someone to blame, Germany and Japan are going to eat the US alive,
and we will deserve it. It's not like there's any shortage of REAL problems
to solve, guys!
A Clipper chip is really going to help the homeless! A Clipper chip is
really going to help educate the children in the ghettos of our cities!
Just think of the generation gap that can be developed when they rehire
DoD engineer dad to work on Clipper chips that will be used to decrypt
slightly rebellious adolescent hacker son's naughty GIF files! I can see
the shitcom already.
If that wasn't a forged post or a sick joke, I'm popping that Dead Kennedys
tape into the car stereo and tearing ass to Canada. Clinton on White Horse
is near. It's the suede/denim secret police! They have come for your uncool
niece! Don't worry it's only a phone...shit, I knew I should have gotten
some of those "consent to monitoring" stickers they keep on Autovon phones
when I had the chance. I should have known I'd need them in civilian life.
--
redsonja@olias.linet.org \\\RS/// Self possession is 9/10 of the law.
Alien: "We control the laws of nature!" | "How come when it's human, it's an
Joel: "And you still dress that way?" | abortion, but when it's a chicken,
(MST3K#17 - Gamera vs Guiron) | it's an omelet?" - George Carlin
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From: fsmlm2@acad3.alaska.edu (Rebelheart)
Subject: ALASKA CAR SHOW
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Keywords: Car Show, Peninsula Cruisers, Kenai, Alaska
Nntp-Posting-Host: acad3.alaska.edu
Organization: R.E.B.E.L.H.E.A.R.T.
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From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Euclid K.)
Subject: Re: GETTING AIDS FROM ACUPUNCTURE NEEDLES
Article-I.D.: news.C5wGEs.K6u
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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matthews@Oswego.EDU (Harry Matthews) writes:
>I had electrical pulse nerve testing done a while back. The needles were taken
>from a dirty drawer in an instrument cart and were most certainly NOT
>sterile or even clean for that matter. More than likely they were fresh
>from the previous patient. I WAS concerned, but I kept my mouth shut. I
>probably should have raised hell!
Could you describe in more detail the above procedure? I've never
heard about it.
And yes, if they pierced you with the needles you probably should have
protested.
euclid
--
Euclid K. standard disclaimers apply
"It is a bit ironic that we need the wave model [of light] to understand the
propagation of light only through that part of the system where it leaves no
trace." --Hudson & Nelson (_University_Physics_)
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Subject: After-Market Cruise Controls: Specific Questions
From: MikeW@Canc.byu.edu (M.D. (Mike) Wieda)
Organization: BYU
Nntp-Posting-Host: 128.187.203.40
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Howdy,
I'm a little new to this newsgroup, but I would like to tap some of the
knowledge and expertise available here.
The Subject: After-market cruise controls
The Background:
I recently broke my ankle in a road-bicycling accident (4 places, five
screws, yuk! :-( ). In two weeks I will be returning to Texas (my
home) from my school (BYU) in Provo, Utah. As you can imagine, trying to
drive nearly 1300 miles with a broken right ankle isn't just the epitome of
a good time. My car does not have a cruise control, so I would have to do
all the pedalling (ha ha) with my messed-up ankle.
My question:
What is the general opinion of after-market cruise control units? I
realize that a cheap CC (cruise control) from, say, Pep Boys, isn't going to
be as good as a factory or professionally installed unit (if there is such a
thing). And I uderstand that I probably can't expect much in the way of
accuracy, looks and that sort of thing; But anything's gotta be better than
trying to drive with a hosed ankle.
I have a 1984 Jeep Cherokee, 4 speed, standard, 4*4, 2.5L engine with
kettering(sp?) ignition (y'know, distributor cap, rotor, that set-up--not
electronic. Maybe you could've guessed it being an '84, but I'm just trying
to give information as completly as I can).
I found a CC unit for 80 bucks. It seems to use the vehicles vacuum system
instead of an electric servor/motor. Is this good or bad? If I did buy
this CC, which vacuum hose should I tap?
It has two speed sensors: One magnetic, and one that gets a signal from the
negative side of the distributor, kinda like a tach pick-up, or so I
understand. I can use either one. Which is best? The manual says (I read
it in the store today) that the magnetic/axle set-up is more accurate, but
harder to install. Is there really a big difference?
It has a sensor for the brake pedal, just like other CCs, but does NOT have a
sensor for the clutch pedal. So if I wasn't paying real close attention I
might push the clutch in while the cruise is trying to get the speed up. Which
would wind the engine up kinda high until I got my wits about me and turned
the thing off. I'm pretty coordinated, so this doesn't bother me, if it
were for my girlfriends car, *then* it would bother me, but I'm ok with it.
The installation also calls for an attachment to a steady-on brake signal
and a switched-on brake signal. I think I can get a switched brake signal
from the correct side of the brake light blade fuse. Am I right? But I'm
not sure where to get the steady-on brake signal, or, for that matter, what
exactly it is? Any ideas as to what the manufaturer wants and where to get
it?
I think I can figure the other things out. Like how to hook-up the negative
side tach-type sensing gizmo and the cabin control unit, and the ground and
all that miscellaneous business. But I need a little help with:
1. Is it worth the money and safety risk (if any) for such a
device?
2. Is there any particularly good after-market CC?
3. Are "professionally" installed CCs signifacantly better and
worth the cabbage?
4. If the unit I saw (sorry, no manufacturer or model number, just
that it is at Pep Boy and its $80) is sufficient for my simple
needs, how do I get the thing installed properly (specifically,
the questions above)?
My father and I built a "Veep" (Volkswagen powered Jeep CJ-2A) when I was in
high school, so I consider myself fairly good with tools, electronics, and
cars. So the installation doesn't scare me. I just want to be certain that
I get the thing installed correctly as my Cherokee is just a wee bit more
complicated than my Veep. :-)
I appreciate your time in reading my post, and I would appreciate any
expertise or opinion anybody has on the subject. If you would like to share
some of your wisdom, please email as I don't get over this group very often
(but I check my mail all the time).
Again, thanks for any help anyone may have.
Mike Wieda
Mikew@canc.byu.edu
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From: rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind)
Subject: Re: Candida Albicans: what is it?
Organization: Beth Israel Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston Mass., USA
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NNTP-Posting-Host: enterprise.bih.harvard.edu
In article <1993Apr19.084258.1040@ida.liu.se> davpa@ida.liu.se
(David Partain) writes:
>Someone I know has recently been diagnosed as having Candida Albicans,
>a disease about which I can find no information. Apparently it has something
>to do with the body's production of yeast while at the same time being highly
>allergic to yeast. Can anyone out there tell me any more about it?
Candida albicans can cause severe life-threatening infections, usually
in people who are otherwise quite ill. This is not, however, the sort
of illness that you are probably discussing.
"Systemic yeast syndrome" where the body is allergic to
yeast is considered a quack diagnosis by mainstream medicine. There
is a book "The Yeast Connection" which talks about this "illness".
There is no convincing evidence that such a disease exists.
--
David Rind
rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu
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From: anik@crhc.uiuc.edu (Sadun Anik)
Subject: Re: Win NT - what is it???
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing
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<rick.734972416@silver> <2BCF2664.3C6A@deneva.sdd.trw.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: lyra.crhc.uiuc.edu
In-reply-to: reimert@.etdesg.trw.com's message of Fri, 16 Apr 93 21:34:28 GMT
In article <2BCF2664.3C6A@deneva.sdd.trw.com> reimert@.etdesg.trw.com (Scott P. Reimert) writes:
> Somewhere in this thread, it has been said that Windows NT (tm) is a
> multi-user OS, as well as multi-threading, etc. I certainly haven't
> seen this to be the case. There are seperate accounts for each person,
> and even seperate directories if that is desired. I don't see an
> implentation of simultaneuos use though.
>
> Scott
It certainly is multi-user. What I have seen from the March Beta is
that it doesn't yet come with the stuff which exploits multi-user
features. I remember somebody from MS stating that it doesn't allow
two users share one GUI. My interpretation of this was that one user
per console but all the networking and RPC based stuff you want.
I believe ftp and rlogin deamons for NT systems will come from third
party. Somebody already has a Beta version of an unsecure ftpd on the
net. There is no reason why one cannot write a posix based shell like
csh on Unix for remote logins.
In general I liked NT when I checked it out. It slow compared to
Win3.1 (just like any other real OS). The beta version, although being
slow, botts up much faster than my SUN workstation. Windows subsystems
also start up a lot faster than X windows. I believe Bill Gates was
right when he stated that NT was not for everybody. After playing
around with it for a while I was convinced. If I owned a busines using
a "business computer" from IBM or some other established vendor, I
would consider moving to NT platform because it would provide a much
cheaper solution (If you are running SQL servers etc.). It provides
the robustness such an application requires.
On the other hand if you like your DOS games, more or less forget
about NT. You can always boot to DOS but in general that defeats
the purpose of using NT. Most of NT's features are visible in a
networked environment and in such an environment you can't reboot your
machine at will. For personal use, I would rather wait for the Win32
based Windows release (whatever you name it) than jump to NT bandwagon.
I expect most applications will keep on using Win16 until Win32
becomes widely available.
--
Sadun Anik, U of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Center for Reliable and High-performance Computing
e-mail: anik@crhc.uiuc.edu
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From: mlogan@thurman.prime.com (Max Logan x2313 5-1)
Subject: Re: New Home for the Bosox!!!
Lines: 20
MIF101@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
> I heard about a month back that the Red Sox are getting a new dome stadium.
> I have relatives that just moved up that way, and they said about the city
> releasing the funds. Can anybody verify this?
> to a game
>
> Bosox fan in Pa
I have lived in the Boston area for 15 years now. They have been talking
about a new Boston Garden (hockey/basketball) since I've lived here. One
day the "last hurdle" has been overcome, and the next day there's a new
hurdle. Fans have been grumbling about Foxboro Stadium (or whatever it's
called this year) for nearly as long, but there are only preliminary
proposals for a new stadium. Local politics prevents anything from being
done in a timely fashion. There will not be a new ballpark in my
lifetime.
Max Logan
Nashua NH
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From: C445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu (John Kelsey)
Subject: Clipper chip and key exchange methods
Nntp-Posting-Host: mizzou1.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Lines: 13
I was wanting to ask the same question Dan Bernstein asked--how does the
Clipper chip exchange keys? If the public key is only 80 or 160 bits long,
does anyone know of any public-key schemes that are secure with that key
size? (Diffie-Hellman or maybe El Gamal, with p set to a constant value?)
Presumably, the real scheme is something like:
1. Exchange/verify public keys.
2. Send encrypted (randomly-generated) session key.
3. Encrypt / Decrypt voice trafic with some sort of fast stream cipher.
Can anyone elaborate on this, or show me what I'm missing here?
--John Kelsey, c445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu
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From: Brian Austin Fraze <bf25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TIGERS
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 4
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In-Reply-To: <93104.100921RK0VSANU@MIAMIU.BITNET>
I basically agree, the Tigers are my favorite team. Actually, their
pitching might actually be better this year than last (not that htat's
saying a hole lot). How 'bout that home opener on Tuesday!! By the way,
Sparky goes for win 2,000 today.
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From: bdunn@cco.caltech.edu (Brendan Dunn)
Subject: Re: Amusing atheists and agnostics
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 8
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
Thanks to whoever posted this wonderful parody of people who post without
reading the FAQ! I was laughing for a good 5 minutes. Were there any
parts of the FAQ that weren't mentioned? I think there might have been one
or two...
Please don't tell me this wasn't a joke. I'm not ready to hear that yet...
Brendan
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From: Grant@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Lynn R Grant)
Subject: Re: Key Registering Bodies
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Lines: 22
If we do not trust the NSA to be a registrar of Clipper Chip key halves,
I would not trust Mitre either. Mitre does lots of work for NSA, at least
in the Trusted Product Evaluation Program (evaluation of commercial off the
shelf software for its efficacy in safeguarding classified information), and
I assume in other, less open, programs.
There are at least two other FFRDCs (Federally Funded Research and Development
Corporations) that work for NSA: Aerospace Corporation and the Institute for
Defense Analysis. Now, if NSA were to be untrustworthy (a position that I
am neutral about, for purposes of this posting), it would be in a position to
exert economic pressure upon Mitre to release key halves on demand. It could
just say, "If you don't cooperate with us, we'll place all our evaluation
contracts with Aerospace and IDA."
I am not saying that people at NSA, Mitre, Aerospace, or IDA are dishonest
folk. But since they are people, and people occasionally go bad, the
system works better if organizations that you are depending upon to be
independent really are.
And, of course, I speak for myself, not my employer.
Lynn Grant
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From: cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joe Cain)
Subject: Re: Keeping Spacecraft on after Funding Cuts.
Organization: Florida State University Geology Dept.
Lines: 4
This discussion is better followed in talk.politics.space
Joseph Cain cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu
cain@fsu.bitnet scri::cain
(904) 644-4014 FAX (904) 644-4214 or -0098
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From: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com (Dave Medin)
Subject: Transmitter tube
Reply-To: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL
Lines: 17
I've got an Eimac 818A/4PR1000A transmitter/linear amplifier tube,
unused, in original packaging (but opened and inventoried). I'd
guarantee this tube to operate and be as observation and its
paperwork say (unused), although I have no transmitter to test it
with. Offers?
--
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SSD--Networking (205) 837-1174 (h)
Intergraph Corp.
M/S GD3004 Internet: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com
Huntsville, AL 35894 UUCP: ...uunet!ingr!b30!catbyte!dtmedin
******* Everywhere You Look (at least around my office) *******
* The opinions expressed here are mine (or those of my machine)
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From: spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont)
Subject: Re: A Message for you Mr. President: How do you know what happened?
Organization: University of Calif., San Diego/Microscopy and Imaging Resource
Lines: 24
NNTP-Posting-Host: pitstop.ucsd.edu
In article <C5stEL.K0E@boi.hp.com> dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews) writes:
>>Dear Brother Bill,
>>
>>One way or another -- so much for patience. Too bad you couldn't just
>>wait. Was the prospect of God's Message just too much to take?
>
> So do you want the president to specifically order each and every activity
>of the FBI, or what? And how willing are you to blame Reagan and Bush,
>directly, for the incidents that took place in the War on Drugs in their
>administration? Are you going to blame Bush for the fact that Weaver's wife,
>infant, son were killed? It happened while he was president.
... or consider the thousands in Central America killed by those brave
CIA/NSC sponsored "Freedom Fighters."
Thus far, Slick Willie is a piker.
spl
--
Steve Lamont, SciViGuy -- (619) 534-7968 -- spl@szechuan.ucsd.edu
San Diego Microscopy and Imaging Resource/UC San Diego/La Jolla, CA 92093-0608
"My other car is a car, too."
- Bumper strip seen on I-805
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From: jhcox@kodak.com (James Cox)
Subject: Xterm Problem With Input Focus / "Shuffle Up"
Keywords: Xterm, Tektronics, Input Focus, Shuffle up
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester NY
Lines: 41
Nntp-Posting-Host: b56vxg
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
The situation: running a Fortran executable that creats an Xterm. An option
in the menu contained in the Xterm runs a Fortran subroutine that creats
a Tektronics-mode Xterm for displaying some graphics. Typing a <RET> while
the Tektronics-mode Xterm (future reference to this will be "Tek-term") is
active makes the Xterm read future keystrokes but does not shift input focus
to the Xterm (I'm basing that statement on the fact that the border of the
Tek-term stays the highlighted color and that the Tek-term stays on top of
Xterm. If what I'm describing isn't input focus, let me know.)
The xterm can be brought to the top by clicking the mouse button on it.
Subsequent selections from the Xterm of the menu item that displays graphics
highlihts the border and displays the updated graphics, but does not move
the Tek-term to the top. If the Tek-term has been iconized to conserve
screen space, it stays an icon.
The desired behavior: one of two options -
1. Whichever of the windows that is active is always on top of the
inactive one.
2. Whenever the Tek-term is inactivated, it should revert to a icon
but when it is activated it should become a window on a higher
level than the Xterm.
What I think I need: a means of specifying that a Xterm or Tek-term will
be at the highest level and a way to iconify/expand a Xterm and Tek-term.
These commands, would, I'd guess, need to be in the Fortran or in the
command that starts up the Xterm and Tek-term.
Other information: All this is taking place on a VT-1300 (a DEC dumb
X-windows terminal) connected to a VAX running VMS and Motif.
Thanks for your time. If you've got any words of wisdom (other than
"give up" ;-), please send email to
jhcox@Kodak.com
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From: c5ff@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (COOK Charlie)
Subject: NHL Summary parse results for games played Fri, April 16, 1993
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Lines: 123
Philadelphia 1 1 2 1--5
Hartford 1 2 1 0--4
First period
1, Hartford, Nylander 10 (unassisted) 8:51.
2, Philadelphia, Recchi 53 (Lindros, Brind'Amour) pp, 19:59.
Second period
3, Hartford, Burt 6 (Cunneyworth, Kron) 2:00.
4, Philadelphia, Bowen 1 (Eklund, Recchi) 7:09.
5, Hartford, Nylander 11 (Zalapski, Sanderson) 9:38.
Third period
6, Hartford, Kron 14 (Sanderson, Cassels) pp, 1:24.
7, Philadelphia, Beranek 15 (Lomakin, Yushkevich) 3:11.
8, Philadelphia, Faust 2 (Brind'Amour, Roussel) 3:38.
Overtime
9, Philadelphia, Yushkevich 5 (Faust) 1:15.
Philadelphia: 5 Power play: 4-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Beranek 1 0 1
Bowen 1 0 1
Brind'Amour 0 2 2
Eklund 0 1 1
Faust 1 1 2
Lindros 0 1 1
Lomakin 0 1 1
Recchi 1 1 2
Roussel 0 1 1
Yushkevich 1 1 2
Hartford: 4 Power play: 4-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Burt 1 0 1
Cassels 0 1 1
Cunneyworth 0 1 1
Kron 1 1 2
Nylander 2 0 2
Sanderson 0 2 2
Zalapski 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
New Jersey 0 3 1--4
NY Islanders 3 3 2--8
First period
1, NY Islanders, Turgeon 56 (unassisted) 4:11.
2, NY Islanders, Thomas 36 (Malakhov, King) pp, 5:58.
3, NY Islanders, Ferraro 14 (Dalgarno, Malakhov) 18:16.
Second period
4, New Jersey, Niedermayer 11 (Richer, Nicholls) 0:41.
5, NY Islanders, Mullen 18 (Vaske, Dalgarno) 1:15.
6, NY Islanders, Thomas 37 (Hogue, Norton) 2:12.
7, New Jersey, Zelepukin 23 (unassisted) 17:11.
8, New Jersey, Richer 38 (Nicholls, Daneyko) 17:23.
9, NY Islanders, Hogue 33 (Flatley, Ferraro) 18:42.
Third period
10, NY Islanders, Turgeon 57 (unassisted) 3:45.
11, New Jersey, Semak 37 (Lemieux, Driver) 9:06.
12, NY Islanders, Turgeon 58 (King, Pilon) 10:21.
NY Islanders: 8 Power play: 4-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Dalgarno 0 2 2
Ferraro 1 1 2
Flatley 0 1 1
Hogue 1 1 2
King 0 2 2
Malakhov 0 2 2
Mullen 1 0 1
Norton 0 1 1
Pilon 0 1 1
Thomas 2 0 2
Turgeon 3 0 3
Vaske 0 1 1
New Jersey: 4 Power play: 2-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Daneyko 0 1 1
Driver 0 1 1
Lemieux 0 1 1
Nicholls 0 2 2
Niedermayer 1 0 1
Richer 1 1 2
Semak 1 0 1
Zelepukin 1 0 1
-----------------------------------------
NY Rangers 1 0 1--2
Washington 1 1 2--4
First period
1, NY Rangers, Graves 36 (Zubov, Andersson) 6:17.
2, Washington, Ridley 26 (unassisted) 18:33.
Second period
3, Washington, Hatcher 34 (Johansson) 12:19.
Third period
4, Washington, Jones 12 (May) 2:49.
5, Washington, Cote 21 (Khristich, Pivonka) pp, 18:55.
6, NY Rangers, Gartner 45 (Amonte, Andersson) pp, 19:50.
Washington: 4 Power play: 7-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Cote 1 0 1
Hatcher 1 0 1
Johansson 0 1 1
Jones 1 0 1
Khristich 0 1 1
May 0 1 1
Pivonka 0 1 1
Ridley 1 0 1
NY Rangers: 2 Power play: 4-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Amonte 0 1 1
Andersson 0 2 2
Gartner 1 0 1
Graves 1 0 1
Zubov 0 1 1
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From: news&aio.jsc.nasa.gov (USENET News System)
Subject: Re: Oily skin - problem?
Article-I.D.: aio.1993Apr6.133244.14717
Distribution: sci.med
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.
Lines: 17
In article <1993Apr5.044140.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu>, u92_hwong@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have a very oily skin. My problem is when I wash my face, it becomes
> oily in half an hour. Especially in the nose region. Is this an illness? How
> can I prevent it from occuring in such short time? Is there a cleanser out
> there that will do a better job -- that is after cleaning, my face won't become
> oily in such a short time.
>
> Thank you for any suggestion.
>
>if this is a disease, everyone should have it. My skin has always been oily -
i used to say "if i were hot enough, you could fry an egg on my oily face".
i am now 50 yrs old and my skin looks younger (i'm told) than some people's
skin at 30 (it's still oily). i have only a very few tiny wrinkles. Thank
your lucky stars for that skin.
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From: reedr@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: proof of resurection
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Lines: 30
In article <Apr.20.03.01.50.1993.3776@geneva.rutgers.edu>, jcj@tellabs.com (jcj) writes:
> In article <Apr.16.23.15.09.1993.1823@geneva.rutgers.edu> smayo@world.std.com (Scott A Mayo) writes:
>>...
>>I think Christianity goes down in flames if the resurrection is
>>ever disproved. ...
>
> Didn't Paul write that if the Resurrection is not true, we are the
> biggest fools of all? However, whether you believe in Christ or not,
> His teachings (e.g. love your brotherman as yourself), even if only
> followed at a secular level, could do a great deal to alleviate some of
> the problems we see today in the world. Even when I was a rabid atheist
> I couldn't deny that.
>
> Jeff Johnson
> jcj@tellabs.com
We also cannot fail to note the intense suffering a devastation which has been
wrecked on our world because of Christians -- who were certain they were
following Christ. From Captialist who have polluted the enviorment in strict
obedience to the Gensis command to subdue the earth, to Nazi's who have
"justly"
punished the Jews for the killing Christ (as well as the other progroms), the
innocent women who were burned alive in accordance with "you shall not allow a
witch to live", the Moslems who were killed in the Crusades, the god-fearing
men destroyed by the inquistion. The religious wars in Spain, France, England,
etc. Christianity has undoubtedly caused the most suffering and needless loss
of life by individuals whose certainity that they were following the
instructions therein, was unquestionable. There is much to grieve.
randy
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From: thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Players Overpaid?
Article-I.D.: midway.1993Apr5.231343.17894
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 42
There's a lot of whining about how much players are overpaid. I thought
I'd put together an underpaid team that could win a pennant. I splurged
and let four of the players earn as much as half a million dollars; the
highest-paid player is Frank Thomas, at $900K. I cut some players, like
Kenny Lofton, Chris Hoiles, Keith Mitchell, Tim Wakefield, and a bunch
of pitchers, all of whom could have arguably made the team better at a
cost of $1 million for the lot of them. The total team salary is
$7,781,500, averaging slightly over $300K a player. If that's too steep,
you can dump Thomas and Bagwell, replacing them with Paul Sorrento and
a minimum wager to save a bit over a million dollars, and still have one
of the best teams in the majors.
p, Juan Guzman, 500
p, Mussina, 400
p, Castillo, 250
p, Eldred, 175
p, Rhodes, 155
p, Militello, 118
rp, Rojas, 300
rp, Beck, 250
rp, Melendez, 235
rp, Hernandez, 185
rp, Nied, 150
c, Rodriguez, 275
c, Piazza, 126
1b, Thomas, 900
1b, Bagwell, 655
2b, Knoblauch, 500
2b, Barberie, 190
3b, Gomez, 312.5
3b, Palmer, 250
ss, Listach, 350
ss, Pena, 170
lf, Gonzalez, 525
cf, Lankford, 290
rf, R.Sanders, 275
of, Plantier, 245
--
ted frank | "However Teel should have mentioned that though
thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | his advice is legally sound, if you follow it
the u of c law school | you will probably wind up in jail."
standard disclaimers | -- James Donald, in misc.legal
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From: VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: AMA Support Brady Bill
Lines: 27
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
In article <1r044aINNh9f@tamsun.tamu.edu> dlb5404@tamuts.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:
>The following was sent to me by a friend of mine (a med student). It
>originally appeared in a medical discussion list.
>
>--GUN CONTROL - The AMA expressed support for S. 414 and H.R. 1025 (the "Brady
>--Handgun Violence Prevention Act"). Citing its strong support for the "Brady
>--Bill" in past Congresses, the AMA termed as "particularly alarming" violence
>--associated with, and stemming from, the widespread and easy availability and
>--use of firearms. The AMA proceeded to comment: "While we recognize that a
>--waiting period of 5 business days before a handgun purchase will not address
>--all of the difficult problems that have made violence so prevalent in our
>--society, we believe that it is a beginning and will save lives. Physicians
>--are first-hand witnesses to the horrendous cost in human life being exacted
>--by firearm violence. A reasonable waiting period before the purchase of a
>--handgun is a protection that the American people deserve." (Letters to
>--Senator Howard M. Metzenbaum and Representative Charles E. Schumer; March 11,
>--1993.)
I wonder if the AMA has an exact listing of "lives saved" in
Tennessee, California, and other waiting period states.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
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From: ewang@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU (Edward Wang)
Subject: Widget source code needed
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
I'm considering writing my own widgets, but I like to have some sample
widget source code to look over first. Where could I find something
like this? Are there any archives accessible by anonymous ftp that contain
such information?
Thanks,
Edward
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From: balog@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Eric J Balog)
Subject: SWITCH 3.5" TO A:?
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Lines: 39
Nntp-Posting-Host: eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Hi!
I'd like to switch my floppy drives so that my 3.5" b: drive becomes a:, while
my 5.25" a: becomes b:. I'm having a few problems, though.
I know that the ribbon cable must be switched, as well as the CMOS settings,
to reflect this change, and I think that I've done that correctly. However, the
drives do not operate correctly in this configuration. From the C:> prompt, if
I type a:, the 5.25" drive light comes on; if I type b:, both the light for the
5.25" and 3.5" drives come on.
There are some jumpers on each drive:
5.25" Label Original Pos. Pos. I changed it to
DS0 ON OFF
DS1 OFF ON
DS2 ON ON
DS3 OFF OFF
IO OFF OFF
MS1 OFF OFF
D-R ON ON
MS2 ON ON
FG OFF OFF
3.5" DS0 OFF ON
DS1 ON OFF
DS2 OFF OFF
DS3 OFF OFF
MM ON ON
DC ON ON
MD OFF OFF
TTL/C-MO8 ON ON
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Eric Balog
balog@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
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From: fist@iscp.bellcore.com (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Should liability insurance be required?
Nntp-Posting-Host: foxtrot.iscp.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Lines: 13
If I have one thing to say about "No Fault" it would be
"It isn't"
--
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There are only two types of ships in the NAVY; SUBMARINES
and TARGETS !!!
#1/XS1100LH DoD #956 #2 Next raise
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Internet: fist@iscp.bellcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I BUY my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
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From: ls116@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Lei Shao)
Subject: Re: TrueType fonts that display but do not print.
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: ls116@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Lei Shao)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Lines: 31
In article <1993Apr17.134725.15882@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> avinash@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Avinash Chopde) writes:
>I just installed a new TrueType font under MS-Windows 3.1
>but though all the applications display the font correctly on the
>screen, quite a few of them fail to print out the document correctly
>(on a LaserJet 4 - non-PostScript printer).
>
>When I use the font in CorelDRAW, the document prints correctly, so I assume
>CorelDRAW knows that the font has to be downloaded to the printer.
>
>But when I use the Windows accessory Write, the printer prints square
>boxes in place of the characters of the new font. Yet, Write does
>display the font correctly on the screen.
>
>I looked through all the Windows and LaserJet manuals, but got nowhere.
>All of them just make the statement that TrueType fonts will print
>exactly as you see them on the screen---so I assume Windows knows that a font
>has to be downloaded automatically---but, how to make it do that????
>
>Appreciate any help....
I assume you're using the driver available from cica (hp4-v108.zip).
Bring up the setup screen of the printer through control panel. Click on the
"Options" button brings up another screen of choices. Change the "Graphics
Mode" from "HP-GL/2" to "Raster" and check the box "Print Truetype as graphics
(this is only available when you choose "Raster"). Now you should be able to
print all your truetype fonts correctly. Good luck.
Lei Shao
ls116@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
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From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Subject: Re: Objective morality (was Re: <Political Atheists?)
Organization: sgi
Lines: 46
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com
In article <1qlf7gINN8sn@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
|>
|> >In another part of this thread, you've been telling us that the
|> >"goal" of a natural morality is what animals do to survive.
|>
|> That's right. Humans have gone somewhat beyond this though. Perhaps
|> our goal is one of self-actualization.
Humans have "gone somewhat beyond" what, exactly? In one thread
you're telling us that natural morality is what animals do to
survive, and in this thread you are claiming that an omniscient
being can "definitely" say what is right and what is wrong. So
what does this omniscient being use for a criterion? The long-
term survival of the human species, or what?
How does omniscient map into "definitely" being able to assign
"right" and "wrong" to actions?
|>
|> >But suppose that your omniscient being told you that the long
|> >term survival of humanity requires us to exterminate some
|> >other species, either terrestrial or alien.
|>
|> Now you are letting an omniscient being give information to me. This
|> was not part of the original premise.
Well, your "original premises" have a habit of changing over time,
so perhaps you'd like to review it for us, and tell us what the
difference is between an omniscient being be able to assign "right"
and "wrong" to actions, and telling us the result, is.
|>
|> >Does that make it moral to do so?
|>
|> Which type of morality are you talking about? In a natural sense, it
|> is not at all immoral to harm another species (as long as it doesn't
|> adversely affect your own, I guess).
I'm talking about the morality introduced by you, which was going to
be implemented by this omniscient being that can "definitely" assign
"right" and "wrong" to actions.
You tell us what type of morality that is.
jon.
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From: wchau@acsu.buffalo.edu (Wun-Chun Chau)
Subject: MFM controller, copy card for sale
Organization: UB
Lines: 13
Nntp-Posting-Host: buttercup.eng.buffalo.edu
16 bit MFM FD/HD controller - $25/b.o.
copy card w/ software and cable - $30/b.o.
(can copy any protected software)
if interested, please reply to this account
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==wun-chun Chau===============================What a crazy world!=============
INTERNET:wchau@eng.buffalo.edu UUCP: ...!{rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!wchau
INTERNET:wchau@cs.buffalo.edu BITNET: wchau%cs.buffalo.edu@ubvm.bitnet
===============Do you want to die young? If you know what I mean :) ==========
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Subject: Re: Changing sprocket ratios (79 Honda CB750)
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford)
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State University
Nntp-Posting-Host: stafford.winona.msus.edu
Lines: 11
In article <3aX42B1w164w@cellar.org>, craig@cellar.org (Saint Craig) wrote:
>
> It can be done, contact Chaparell cycle supply, [...] Hey they even
> had sprockets for my VF1000R which is hard to find accesssories for.
I second that. They even had sprockets for my R100rs - _very_ hard
to find.
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John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona
All standard disclaimers apply.
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From: wsanders@spectrum.xerox.com (bob hosid r382-423)
Subject: Dynamic changing of the title bar
Organization: Xerox
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 4
I am looking for a program I can insert into some code that will allow the title bar to be changed on a window dynamicly. If one already is out there, I would appreciate a location so I don't have to create this from scratch.
Thanks in advance.
Bob Hosid:dloslv300:xerox
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