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From: nils@monroe.dartmouth.edu (Nils Nieuwejaar)
Subject: Re: We're winning the war on drugs. Not!
Keywords: drugs DEA WOD legalization
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Lines: 42
kennejs@a.cs.okstate.edu (KENNEDY JAMES SCOT) writes:
>The chart that follows was taken from the Wednesday, April 14, 1993
>issue of USA Today ("Drug Use Up Among U.S. Eigth-graders" by Mike
>Snider, p. 6D).
> Adolescents' choices
> Drugs used by eighth graders in the last month:
> Estimated, per 100 students
> 1991 1992 Pct. chg.
> Alcohol 25.1 26.1 +4%
> Cigarettes 14.3 15.5 +8%
> Marijuana 3.2 3.7 +16%
> Amphetamines 2.6 3.3 +27%
> LSD 0.6 0.9 +50%
> Cocaine 0.5 0.7 +40%
> Crack 0.3 0.5 +67%
> Source: University of Michigan Institute for Social Research,
> 1993 report
>We are not winning the "war on drugs". I think you can see that one
>of the tactics that the DEA employs to give people the impression that
>the "war on drugs" is being won is to selectively quote statistics---
>only statistics that support their contention that drug use has gone
>down. The excerpt from Time magazine that I included in this post is
>an excellent example of how organizations like the DEA attempt to
>deceive the public.
Unfortunately, there's not much we can learn from the statistics presented
here either. Due to rounding, the 1991 est. for LSD could be anywhere
from .550 to .649 and the 1992 est. could be anywhere from .850 to .949.
This means that the actual change (if you believe these statistics in the
first place) was anywhere from 31% to 73%. Similarly the increase in
cocaine use could be anywhere from 18% to 66% and the increase of
crack use could be anywhere from 29% to 120%. This doesn't even
take into account the margin of error which isn't provided here.
This does not mean that the rest of the argument you present is unfounded,
but it does mean that USA Today has (not surprisingly) provided us
with virtually no information.
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From: europa@tomcat.raleigh.ibm.com (Welch Bryan)
Subject: Re: warranty extension by credit company: applies to the phurchase of computer?
Distribution: usa
Nntp-Posting-Host: tomcat.raleigh.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
Lines: 36
In article <C51Cv1.MLL@cup.hp.com>, staggers@cup.hp.com (Ken Staggers) writes:
|> HUAYONG YANG (yang@titan.ucs.umass.edu) wrote:
|> : Most, if not all, credit card companies offer to double the warranty up
|> : to one year, namely, if you make a purchase by a credit card, you get
|> : additional warranty up to one year. Does it apply to the purchase of
|> : computers? I wonder if anyone out there has used it. Is there any catch?
|> : Thanks in advance.
|>
|> I am just about to post the results of my big computer purchase. One
|> of the key points was the ability to use my American Express card. I
|> read the fine print between double warranty policies of Amex and Citibank
|> VISA. Sure, both will allow you double warranty on computers, but Citibank
|> has a maximum claim of $250.00. Could you imagine trying to get your
|> monitor or mother board fixed for $250.00? Amex has NO limit on claims.
|>
|> Remember, if you use Amex, you must either send a copy of the warranty info
|> to them in 30 days from purchase, or you must call them to pre-register and
|> then send them the paperwork within 90 days of purchase (my pre-register
|> pak arrived today). Citibank VISA requires no pre-registration.
|>
|> --Ken
|>
I just talked to a rep for my AT&T mastercard regarding this: There is no
maximum claim, and you only have to notify them of the warranty when the
item needs repair. If it can't be repaired, you get the amount you paid
for it.
Curiously though, the AT&T Gold mastercard has a limit of $1000 on claims.
Definitely not upgrading to that card...:)
-Bryan
--
Bryan Welch Amateur Radio: N0SFG
Internet: europa@vnet.ibm.com (best), bwelch@scf.nmsu.edu
Everything will perish save love and music.--Scots Gaelic proverb
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From: hdr@ross.COM (Henry D. Reynolds)
Subject: X11R5 on Sun4/110 cg2 comes up Mono
Nntp-Posting-Host: mowog
Organization: ROSS Technology, Inc. Austin, Tx.
Lines: 14
The 4/100 prints out the following message about it's framebuffer
cgtwo0 at vme24d16 0x400000 vec 0xa8
cgtwo0: Sun-3 color board, fast read
Anybody know the story on this?
--
- Can I have an IMPULSE ITEM instead?
Henry D. Reynolds hdr@ross.com -OR- hdr@nidhog.cactus.org
FONE: (512)892-7802 x253 ROSS Technology, Inc.
FAX: (512)892-3036 5316 Hwy 290 West Suite 500 Austin, TX 78735
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From: ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten)
Subject: Re: MS-Windows Screen Grabber (summary)
Lines: 28
Reply-To: ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten)
Organization: Trent University
Hi again,
Many thanks to all the people who responded to my request for a MS-
Windows screen grabber. It proves to me AGAIN that the net is a
wonderful thing. :-)
So, in summary:
There are two choices:
1) Various screen grabber packages (Corel Draw has one, there are
a couple on simtel and cica).
2) Use the built-in PrintScreen and Alt-PrintScreen functionality
to paste the screen (or window) to the clipboard. Then paste the
clipboard to your application. Cool!
Again, thanks for the info...
Grant (the MS-Windows newbie -- Unix and X are my bag ;-)
--
Grant Totten, Programmer/Analyst, Trent University, Peterborough Ontario
GTotten@TrentU.CA Phone: (705) 748-1653 FAX: (705) 748-1246
========================================================================
A woman's place is in the wrong.
-- James Thurber
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From: msmith@volcano.ma30.bull.com (Mike Smith)
Subject: DLL's and RegisterClass/CreateWindow
Reply-To: M.Smith@ma30.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN, Worldwide Information Systems, Billerica, Mass., USA
Distribution: comp
Lines: 28
Hi all,
I have a DLL in which I Register a class and create a window of that
class type. Both calls require a module instance handle, hInstance.
Petzold's 3.1 book says that it is best to use the module instance
handle of the calling program, not the module instance handle of the
DLL (page 934).
I have two questions:
1) Is there a way to find out the module instance handle of a module?
2) What are the possible problems with using the instance handle of
the DLL?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
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Mike Smith e-mail: M.Smith@ma30.bull.com
Bull HN Information Systems Inc. phone: (508) 294-2049
300 Concord Road MA30 - 815A fax: (508) 294-3807
Billerica, MA 01821 USA
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From: cph@quake.sylmar.ca.us (charles hobbs)
Subject: Color inks for Stylewriter
Organization: Quake Public Access, Sylmar CA
Lines: 9
I know that Jet Inc makes refills for the Stylewriter and Deskwriter
ink jet cartridges in several colors....but are pre-filled cartridges
in color available from anyone (or do I have to use-up one cartridge
before I have a chance to print in color?)
Also, are inks in process colors (cyan, magenta, yellow) available
to refill cartridges?
Thanks in advance....
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From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Subject: Re: MOTORCYCLE DETAILING TIP #18
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Lines: 12
Re: Rubbing Compound....
You mean Meguire's* didn't work?
* THE DOD magic elixir of choice for plastic stuff
Ron Miller
DoD 693
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From: rmohns@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Can I Change ""Licensed To"" Data in Windows 3.1?
Organization: Clark University
Lines: 15
This is in relation to a question concerning changing the registered to:
information of MS-Windows...
In a previous article, 2a42dubinski@vms.csd.mu.edu wrote:
>
> ahh, yes, this is a fun topic. No, once the name is incribed on the
>disk, that is it, it is encoded. Not even a HEX editor will find it. You can
>write over the "Licensed to:", but you can't change the name underneth it. I
I can find it with a HEX editor, although I have not tried to overwrite it.
Are you sure it can't be? You may be mistaken about this. (???)
Rob
rmohns@vax.clarku.edu
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From: bob@natasha.portal.com (Bob Cain)
Subject: Re: Pgp, PEM, and RFC's (Was: Cryptography Patents)
Organization: Oce Graphics USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Lines: 22
Charles Kincy (ckincy@cs.umr.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Apr16.001321.3692@natasha.portal.com> bob@natasha.portal.com (Bob Cain) writes:
:
: >: I hope my cynicism is misplaced here. Go ahead...I'm not afraid to
: >: be wrong every once in a while. But, I have an uneasy feeling that I
: >: am right. :(
: >
: >It is and you are wrong yet you emotionally state a bunch of crap as fact
: >with a tiny disclaimer at the end. Check your facts first and grow up.
: >Why is there such a strong correlation between interest in cryptography
: >and immaturity I wonder.
:
: Oh, I see, flame someone, tell them that they are immature, tell them
: they are wrong, and then don't offer any proof for your assertions.
:
: You really *are* a putz. Put up or shut up.
:
I will provide any proof you wish in private. Name it, dickhead.
Putz Cain
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From: dale@wente.llnl.gov (Dale M. Slone)
Subject: xlock
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Lines: 11
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: morbid.llnl.gov
I found an oddity with our SGI Indigo (MIPS R3000 chip).
When xlock +nolock is running, and I am working remotely
or in batch (at) mode, the runtime of my programs (as timed
by using clock() in the code itself) is ~25% slower than if
xlock is NOT running. No other processes seem to affect my
runtimes, yet this is very consistent!
Any explanations, real or imagined :)
thanx
dale@frostedflakes.llnl.gov
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From: dnewman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (David F. Newman)
Subject: voltage regulator spec needed !!!!!
Organization: Division of Academic Computing, Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115 USA
Lines: 13
Hi there,
I have a mac 512 with a burned out part which looks like a voltage
regulator. The part number is BU 406 and I believe the vender is
SGS thomas judging by teh SGS logo printed on the package. If anyone
has teh spec for this part I would greatly appreciate an email with
the import info so I can find a replacement. Thanx in advance.
-Dave
dnewman@lynx.northeastern.edu
BTW I don't need people telling me to throw the computer away. If
I had the money the thing would be in the trash in a second, but
it does make a good terminal if nothing else.
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From: kdw@icd.ab.com (Kenneth D. Whitehead)
Subject: Re: Blast them next time
Nntp-Posting-Host: sora.icd.ab.com
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Lines: 57
oldham@ces.cwru.edu (Daniel Oldham) babbles:
What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of
had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the
compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened.
If they'd gone to the door and knocked on it to serve the
warrant, like the Sheriff had done 3 other times, they
wouldn't have needed to HAVE an initial assault. But then,
Herr Klinton and Attorney Gen'l Reno wouldn't have been
able to have told such heroic stories about how they
"protected" the rest of us from a group of people who
kept to themselves, miles out in the prairie.
The BATF needs more people, better weapons and more armored
transports. When they meet hostile fire they should be able to use
more force instead of retreating to a stand off. If you are going to
do a job then do it right. The BATF is there to protect us and they
must have the proper equipment and people to do the job.
The BATF needs to be disbanded. This out of control group
of Rambo wannabees is a danger to the Republic.
With the WoD and the increased crime in the streets the BATF is needed
more now then ever. If they blast away a few good fokes then that is
the price we all have to pay for law and order in this country.
Well, I figure you're going to get flamed pretty badly by
everybody else for this incredibly stupid statement, so I'll
just let it pass for now.
Case Western reserve, huh? Do the Feds know about that big
stockpile of automatic weapons and crack you have in your
house? Are you the same Daniel Oldham that lives on Orchard
Drive? Just so they get the address right, that is...
Look
at all the good people that died in wars to protect this great country
of ours.
Well, it used to be a great country. Now I'm not so sure.
I knew a few of those good people who died in wars; I was
in Viet Nam. I can assure you, none of us fought to protect
the right of the government to attack its own citizens with
military force without provocation. (Hint: serving a search warrant
is NOT sufficient provocation to stage a military style assault
on a religious group. At Least not here in the US. Maybe in
Iraq, or Syria...)
With the arms build up in Waco they needed to hit that compound with
mega fire power. They could of gone in there blasting and killed a few
women and kids but it would of been better then letting them all burn
to death 51 days later.
This is a joke, right? Or are they really letting fools like
you into CWRU now? Too bad. Used to be a good school. How'd you
get in anyway, did your old man buy a new wing for the library?
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From: PXY@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Pen-Li Yen)
Subject: Slide projectors trade for photo equipments
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Lines: 17
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: eclx.psu.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
There are many people want to buy my Kodak autofocus carousel projectors
but I don't have lenses or remote to sell. They prefer to buy a projector
with all accessaries. So I have to post another news asking for lenses
to fit those Kodak slide projectors:
I am willing to give away Singer Caramate II or Singer Caramete SP (
w/ built-in unremovable lens, built-in casette player, speaker, new 500 HR
bulb) try to trade for Kodak projector lenses.
Each projector (viewer) will equal trade for 1 or 2 Kodak projector lenses
depend on the focal length. I will pay for the shipping for Singer
projector (viewer).
Since I don't need those Singer projectors, if you have some 35mm SLR system
you don't need, I am willing to do the trade as well.
Yuesea
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: Update (Help!) [was "What is This [Is it Lyme's?]"]
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 24
In article <1993Mar24.182145.11004@equator.com> jod@equator.com (John Setel O'Donnell) writes:
>IMHO, you have Lyme disease.
>I sent you in private email a summary of the treatment protocols put
>forth by the Lyme Disease Foundation. I respectfully suggest that you
>save yourself a great deal of suffering by contacting them for a
>Lyme-knowledgeable physician referral and seek treatment at once.
>You'll know in 2 weeks if you're on the right course; and the clock is
>ticking on your 6 weeks if you have it. 1-800-886-LYME.
If these folks are who I think they are, Lyme-knowledgeable may
mean a physician to whom everything that walks in the door is
lyme disease, and you will be treated for lyme, whether or not
you have it. Hope you have good insurance.
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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From: mjp@watson.ibm.com (Michael Phelps)
Subject: Re: Need Senate Bill numbers and House Resolution numbers
Originator: mjp@bwa.kgn.ibm.com
Reply-To: mjp@vnet.ibm.com (Michael J. Phelps)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM.
Nntp-Posting-Host: bwa.kgn.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Kingston NY
Lines: 1835
Try the firearms archive. Larry Cipriani's instructions follow. By
the way, thanks for the archive Larry..
This year is the 103rd congress directory.
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From
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reston.ans.net!bogus.sura.net!darwin.sura.net!dtix.dt.navy.mil!mimsy!cbvox1.
.att.com!lvc Thu Apr 8 19:41:01 1993
Article: 40039 of talk.politics.guns
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.att.com!lvc
From: lvc@cbvox1.att.com
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Information about the anonymous ftp RKBA archive
Message-ID: <1993Apr8.182924.7274@cbnews.cb.att.com>
Date: 8 Apr 93 22:50:09 GMT
Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu
Organization: Ideology Busters, Inc.
Lines: 1795
This is the INDEX file for the anonymous ftp RKBA archive.
The archive site has been moved and is now at:
godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu
in the directory
/usr0/anon/pub/firearms/politics/rkba
This archive is accessible only via anonymous ftp; instructions for
anonymous ftp are at the end of this file.
An email server is available at another site, and as a result is
not completely in sync with this archive. To get the index for
the rkba email-server send:
get rkba index
as the body of a message to listserv@mainstream.com
For help send:
help
If you have any additions or suggestions for improvement to the
RKBA archive please let me know.
--
Larry Cipriani, att!cbvox1!lvc or l.v.cipriani@att.com
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File: rkba82
Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on
the Judiciary, United States Senate, Ninety-seventh Congress, Second
Session, February, 1982
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File: congress/102nd/HCR11
House Concurrent Resolution 11 by Mr. Crane, January 3, 1991
Expressing the sense of the Congress with respect to the right of all
Americans to keep and bear arms in defense of life or liberty and in
pursuit of all other legitimate endeavors.
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File: congress/102nd/HJR438
House Joint Resolution 438 by Mr. Major Owens, March 11, 1992
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States
repealing the Second Amendment to the Constitution; includes comments
by Owens entered into the Congressional Record.
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File: congress/102nd/HR1133
House Bill 1133 by Mr. Goodling, February 27, 1991
To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit transfer of firearm to,
or possession of a firearm by, a person convicted of a drug crime, and to
provide enhanced penalties for possession of a firearm during a drug crime.
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File: congress/102nd/HR1354
House Bill 1354 by Mr. Scheuer, March 7, 1991
To end the use of steel jaw leghold traps on animals in the United States.
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File: congress/102nd/HR1412
House Bill 1412 by Mr. Staggers, March 13, 1991
To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide for the establishment
of a national hotline which a Federal Firearms licensee may contact to
learn if receipt of a handgun by a prospective transferee is prohibited,
and to require such a licensee to contact the hotline before the transfer
of a handgun to a nonlicensee.
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File: congress/102nd/HR1559
House Bill 1559 by Mr. Gibbons, March 21, 1991
To prohibit the importation of semiautomatic assault weapons, large
capacity ammunition feeding devices, and certain accessories.
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File: congress/102nd/HR1770
House Bill 1770 by Mr. Smith of Florida, April 15, 1991
To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit certain handguns
which are unsuitable for lawful sporting purposes.
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File: congress/102nd/HR19
House Bill 19 by Mr. Hughes January 3, 1991
To prohibit the possession, transfer, and certain exports of restricted
weapons, the manufacture of firearms capable of accepting a silencer or
bayonet without alteration, and the possession and transfer of large
capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.
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File: congress/102nd/HR282
House Bill 282 by Mrs. Collins, January 3, 1991
To provide for the mandatory registration of handguns.
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File: congress/102nd/HR2922
House Bill 2922 by Mr. Cardin, July 17, 1991
To amend the Public Health Service Act to establish an entitlement of
States
and certain political subdivisions of States to receive grants for the
abatement of health hazards associated with lead-based paint, and to amend
the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose an excise tax and establish a
trust fund to satisfy the Federal obligations arising from such
entitlement.
[This bill would impose upto a $0.75/pound tax on all new lead, and
$0.37/pound tax on recycled lead.]
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File: congress/102nd/HR318
House Bill 318 by Mr. Dornan, January 3, 1991
To amend the Animal Welfare Act to prohibit dog racing and dog training
involving the use of live animals as visual lure and to make such Act
applicable to facilities that are used for dog racing or dog race training.
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File: congress/102nd/HR3371
House Bill 3371
"The Violent Crime Prevention Act of 1991"
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File: congress/102nd/HR371
House Bill 371 by Mr. Marlenee, January 3, 1991
To protect persons engaged in a lawful hunt within a national forest;
establishing an administrative civil remedy against individuals or groups
intentionally obstructing, impeding, or interfering with the conduct of a
lawful hunt; and for other purposes.
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File: congress/101st/HR4079
House Bill 4079 by Mr. Gingrich, February 22, 1990
To provide swift and certain punishment for criminals in order
to deter violent crime and rid America of illegal drug use.
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File: congress/102nd/HR436
House Bill 436 by Mr. Weiss, January 3, 1991
To prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or importation of .25 caliber
and .32 caliber ammunition.
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File: congress/102nd/HR465
House Bill 465 by Mr. Rangel, January 7, 1991
To prohibit certain exports of fully automatic or semiautomatic
assault weapons.
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File: congress/102nd/HR4897
House Bill 4897 by Mr. Cunningham, April 9, 1992
To amend title I of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968
to deny grant funds to States unless law enforcement officers are permitted
to carry concealed firearms.
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File: congress/102nd/HR5633
House Bill 5633 by Mr. Schumer, July 21, 1992
To amend title 18, United States Code, to expand the scope of the multiple
firearms sales reporting requirement, and to require that persons comply
with State and local firearms licensing laws before receiving a Federal
license to deal in firearms.
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File: congress/102nd/HR5807
House Bill 5807 by Mr. Schumer, August 10, 1992
To impose criminal penalties upon the failure of a Federal firearms
licensee to report to appropriate authorities the loss or theft of a
firearm from the inventory or collection of the licensee.
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File: congress/102nd/HR7
House Bill 7 by Mr. Feighan
To require a waiting period before the purchase of a handgun;
also known as "The Brady Bill"
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File: congress/102nd/HR750
House Bill 750 by Mr. Russo, January 30, 1991
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1954 to provide that the excise tax
on handguns will be transferred to a trust fund to be used for purposes of
providing compensation to victims of crime, and for other purposes.
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File: congress/102nd/S214
Senate Bill 214 by Mr. Hatch, January 15, 1991
To provide procedures for calling Federal constitutional
conventions under article V for the purpose of proposing
amendments to the United States Constitution.
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File: congress/102nd/S2304
Senate Bill 2304 by Mr. Lautenberg, March 3, 1992
To amend title 18, United States Code, to permanently prohibit the
possession of firearms by persons who have been convicted of a violent
felony, and for other purposes.
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File: congress/102nd/S257
Senate Bill 257
To require a waiting period before the purchase of a handgun.
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File: congress/102nd/S2813
Senate Bill 2813 by Mr. Gore, June 4, 1992
To establish in the Government Printing Office an electronic
gateway to provide public access to a wide range of Federal
databases containing public information stored electronically.
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File: congress/102nd/S2913
Senate Bill 2913 by Mr. Chafee, June 30 1992
To prohibit the manufacture, importation, exportation, sale,
purchase, transfer, receipt, possession, or transportation of
handguns and ammunition, with certain exceptions.
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File: congress/102nd/S3282
Senate Bill 3282 by Mr. Mitchell, September 28 1992
To amend title 18, United States Code, to require a waiting period
before the purchase of a handgun.
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File: congress/101st/S386
Senate Bill 386 by Mr. Metzenbaum, February 8, 1989
To control the sale and use of assault weapons.
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File: congress/102nd/S51
Senate Bill 51 by Mr. Moynihan, January 14, 1991
To prohibit the manufacture, transfer, or importation of .25 caliber
and .32 caliber and 9 millimeter ammunition.
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File: congress/102nd/S634
Senate Bill 634 by Mr. Symms, March 13, 1991
To amend chapter 44, title 18, United States Code, to provide clarification
of limitations on controls of firearms, and to prohibit the use of Federal
funds to political subdivisions which implement certain gun control ordi-
nances.
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File: congress/101st/S747
Senate Bill 747 by Mr. DeConcini,
To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, regarding
assault weapons.
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File: congress/102nd/S789
Senate Bill 789, by Mr. Moynihan, April 9, 1991
To prohibit the importation of semiautomatic assault weapons, large
capacity ammunition feeding devices, and certain accessories.
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File: congress/102nd/S892
Senate Bill 892, By Mr. Metzenbaum, April 23, 1991
To amend title 15, United States Code, to authorize the Consumer Product
Safety Commission to regulate the risk of injury associated with firearms.
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File: congress/102nd/S918
Senate Bill 918, by Mr. Packwood, April 24, 1991
The amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exempt small manufacturers,
producers, and importers from the firearms excise tax.
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File: congress/103rd/HCR3
House Concurrent Resolution 3, by Mr. Crane, January 5, 1993
Expressing the sense of the Congress with respect to the right of all
Americans to keep and bear arms in defense of life or liberty and in the
pursuit of all other legitimate endeavors.
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File: congress/103rd/HJR81
House Joint Resolution, by Mr. Owens, January 27, 1993
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States
repealing the Second Amendment to the Constitution.
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File: congress/103rd/HR277
House Bill 277, by Mr. Mazolli, January 5, 1993
To amend title 18, United States Code, to require a waiting period
before the purchase of a handgun.
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File: congress/103rd/HR544
House Bill 544, by Mr. Torricelli, January 21, 1993
To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the transfer of 2 or
more handguns to an individual in any 30-day period.
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File: congress/103rd/HR661
House Bill 661, by Mrs. Collins, January 27, 1993
To provide for the manufacturer, importer, or dealer of a handgun or an
assault weapon to be held strictly liable for damages that result from the
use of the handgun or assault weapon.
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File: congress/103rd/HR737
House Bill 737, by Mr. REYNOLDS, February 2, 1993
To provide for the manufacturer or importer of a handgun or an assault
weapon to be held strictly liable for damages that result from the use
of the handgun or assault weapon, and to amend the Internal Revenue
Code of 1986 to increase the excise tax on firearms and use a portion
of the revenues from such tax to assist hospitals in urban areas to
provide medical care to gunshot victims who are not covered under any
health
plan.
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File: congress/103rd/HR1025
House Bill 1025, by Mr. Schumer, February 22, 1993
To provide for a waiting period before the purchase of a hadgun,
and for the establishment of a national instant criminal
background check system to be contacted by firearms dealers
before the transfer of any firearm.
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File: congress/103rd/S108
Senate Bill 108, by Mr. Moynihan, January 21, 1993
To prohibit the importation of semiautomatic assault weapons, large
capacity ammunition feeding devices, and certain accessories.
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File: congress/103rd/S109
Senate Bill 109, by Mr. Moynihan, January 21, 1993
To amend section 923 of title 18, United States Code, to require the
keeping
of records with respect to dispositions of ammunition, and to require a
study
of the use and possible regulation of sales of ammunition.
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File: congress/103rd/S178
Senate Bill 178, by Mr. Moynihan, January 21, 1993
To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the
manufacture, transfer, or importation of .25 caliber and .32 caliber
and 9 millimeter ammunition.
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File: congress/103rd/S179
Senate Bill 179, by Mr. Moynihan, January 21, 1993
To tax 9 millimeter, .25 caliber, and .32 caliber bullets.
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File: congress/103rd/S376
Senate Bill 376, by Mr. Lautenberg, February 16, 1993
To prohibit the transfer of 2 or more handguns to an individual in any
30-day period.
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File: congress/103rd/S414
Senate Bill 414, by Mr. Metzenbaum, February 24, 1993
To amend title 18, United States Code, to require a waiting period
before the purchase of a handgun.
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File: gun-free-zones
Text of the GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONES ACT OF 1990 from PUBLIC LAW 101-647
NOV. 29, 1990
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File: aclu
A collection of articles on the ACLU's position on gun control.
Included is ACLU Policy Statement #47 which gives the ACLU interpretation
of the Second Amendment.
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File: dcm-info
A collection of articles explaining the Civilian Marksmanship Program.
In other words, "Why does the United States Department of Defense sell
battle rifles to civilians ? "
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File: dial911
"Dial 911 and Die!" By Aaron Zelman and Jay Simkin of Jews for the
Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO)
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File: fija-info
The Fully Informed Jury Amendment, and what it means to gun owners
and the right to keep and bear arms.
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File: whitemanslaw
White Man's Law by William R. Tonso, from the December 1985
Reason magazine
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File: jefferson
The First Inaugural Address of Thomas Jefferson, 2nd president of the
United States.
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File: jewishistory
Jewish History Rufutes Gun Control Activists, by Elliot Rothenberg
from the February 1988 *American Rifleman*.
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File: law-abiding
The Law-Abiding Gun Owner as Domestic and Acquaintance Murderer
from "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution: A Realistic Assessment of
Gun Control," by Don B. Kates, February, 1990, pp.45-49.
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File: second-ideology
"The Second Amendment and the Ideology of Self-Protection" by
Don B. Kates, Jr. Reprinted from CONSTITUTIONAL COMMENTARY,
Vol. 9. No. 1. Winter 1992, (c) 1992 by Constitutional Commentary,
Kates puts the Second Amendment and philosophies of self-protection
into a historical perspective
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File: new-understa
Toward a New Understanding of the Second Amendment, by David T. Hardy
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File: to-bear-arms
"To Bear Arms for Self Defense: Our Second Amendment Heritage" by
Stephen P. Halbrook.
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File: no-treason
No Treason, The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner
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File: resistance
Excerpts from the study "Crime Control Through the Use of Armed Force",
by Associate Professor Dr. Gary Kleck, Florida State University School
of Criminology, published in the February 1988 issue of SOCIAL PROBLEMS.
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File: waitper-qna
Waiting Period -- Questions and Answers by Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI)
and Citizens for Safe Government (CSG)
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File: warsaw
"The Warsaw Ghetto; 10 Handguns Against Tyranny",
by Dr. David I Caplan from February, 1988 American Rifleman.
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File: wethepeople
Supreme Court interpretations of the Second Amendment.
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File: sc-ftp
How to retreive Supreme Court decisions via anonymous ftp.
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File: alternative-policy
ALTERNATIVE POLICY FUTURES by Franklin E. Zimring
from THE ANNALS OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF POLITICAL AND SOCIAL SCIENCE.
Volume 455, May 1981; published by The American Academy of Political
and Social Science; 1981.
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File: embarassing.2nd.amendment
The Embarassing Second Amendment by Sanford Levinson, Yale Law Journal
Volume 99, pp 637-659 (1989)
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File: nra800
Phone numbers for the NRA, many are toll-free 800 numbers
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File: nradrugs
A collection of articles on the NRA's position on the War on Drugs.
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File: fl-aw-part1
Florida A.W. Commission - Exec Summary Part 1,
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File: fl-aw-part2
Florida A.W. Commission - Exec Summary Part 2,
STOCKTON -- THE FACTS by Martin L. Fackler, MD
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File: iwba
Information about the International Wound Ballistics Association,
Martin Fackler, president
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File: gunshyjudges
Gun-Shy Judges by Jacob Sullum, from the May 1991 issue of Reason Magazine
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File: heatofmoment
In the Heat of the Moment, By James D. Wright
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File: racist-soil
Article "Gun Control Sprouts from Racist Soil." by Roy Innis,
from the Wall Street Journal 11/21/91
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File: core-policy
"Bearing Arms for Self-Defense -- A Human and Civil Right" by
Roy Innis, National Chairman, Congress of Racial Equality (CORE)
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File: righttobear
The Right to Bear Arms By Sanford Levinson from the
Daily News, Ft Walton Beach, FL. (1991)
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File: rock-island
United States of America v. Rock Island Armory, US District Court for
the Central District of IL; the court ruled that making a post '86
machine gun is not illegal -- believe it or not.
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File: dalton
United States of America v. John William Dalton, US Court of Appeals,
Tenth Circuit, 91-1149; the court ruled that owning or transferring
a post '86 machine gun is not punishable under the NFA -- believe it
or not.
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File: waitdanger
Why Gun Waiting Periods Threaten Public Safety By David B. Kopel,
March 25, 1991
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File: aw-qna
Assault Weapon Questions & Answers
by Handgun Control, Inc. and Citizens for Safe Government (CSG)
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File: ccw-survey
A state by state survey of Carrying Concealed Weapons laws.
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File: us-vs-miller
United States vs. Miller et al., Appeal from the District Court of the
United States for the Western District of Arkansas.
Argued March 30, 1939 -- Decided May 15, 1939
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File: presser
The history of Presser v Illinois is a fascinating exercise of how
politically based decisions on our Constitutional rights have come back
to haunt us.
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File: cia-ncbh
A column by Neal Knox presenting evidence that former CIA agent
Edwin O. Welles played a major role in founding HCI and NCBH.
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File: conphone
A list of voice and fax phone number for representatives and senators.
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File: billofrights
The first 10 articles of amendment to the United States Constitution.
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File: constitution
The Constitution of the United States of America
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File: decl-of-indp
The Declaration of Independence
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File: dont-wait
"Criminals Don't Wait -- Why Should You ?" from the NRA. Exposes the
fraudulent arguments made for waiting periods.
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File: external
Positive Externalities of Gun Ownership, by John Kell, from
"The Freeman: Ideas on Liberty, October 1991 "
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File: english-hist
Firearms Legislation in Great Britain, by Jan A. Stevenson
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File: simkin
"Control Criminals, Not Guns" by Jay Edward Simkin found in the
March, 25 1991 [or '92?] Wall Street Journal:
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File: unabridged
The Unabridged Second Amendment, by J. Neil Schulman
An interview with Roy Copperud, retired professor of journalism at
USC and author of "American Usage and Style: The Consensus". Copperud
offers his professional opinion on the meaning of the Second Amendment.
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File: uzitruth
A letter from J. Harper Wilson, Director FBI Uniform Crime Reporting
Program to Paul H. Blackman, Research Coordinator of the NRA stating
that only one police officer, of Puerto Rico, was shot and killed with
a semi-automatic 9mm Model A Uzi.
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File: maketheirday
"How to Make Their Day" by Don B. Kates Jr. and Patricia Terrell Harris
in the National Review, October 21, 1991
Kates and Harris debunk several myths about firearms, criminals, and
violence.
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File: two-myths
Two myths of gun control from "Point Blank: Guns and Violence in
America" by Gary Kleck.
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File: aw-not-problem
"Assault Weapons Aren't the Problem", by Gary Kleck, published in
The New York Times Tuesday, September 1, 1992
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File: oregon-study
1990 Oregon Study of Retail Firearm Sales and CHL Licensing
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File: children
Fighting for Children's Hearts and Minds by Robert Pew, American
Rifleman - April 1992
Discusses how HCI and it's Center to Prevent Handgun Violence
have set out to use public schools as forums for their anti-gun
propaganda.
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File: gunssputter
"Guns and Sputter" by James D. Wright, from July 1989 issue of REASON.
Wright exposes the flaws in the New England Journal of Medicine study
comparing the homicide rates of Seattle and Vancouver.
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File: nejm-info
A collection of articles and information on the New England Journal of
Medicine Vancouver/Seattle handgun crime comparison study.
See also the file gunssputter, authored by James Wright.
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File: dcstudy.1
The New England Journal of Medicine. 1991 Dec 5. 325 (23).
pp 1647-1650.
Editorials: Firearms And The Killing Threshold.
Kassirer-Jerome-P.
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File: dcstudy.2
The New England Journal of Medicine. 1991 Dec 5. 325 (23).
pp 1615-1620.
Special Article: Effects Of Restrictive Licensing Of
Handguns On Homicide And Suicide In The District Of Columbia.
Loftin-Colin. McDowall-David. Wiersema-Brian. Cottey-Talbert-J.
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File: nejm-editorial
The New England Journal of Medicine. 1988 Nov 10. 319 (19).
pp 1283-1285.
Editorial: Firearm Injuries: A Call For Science.
Mercy-James-A. Houk-Vernon-N.
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File: nejm-letters
The New England Journal of Medicine. 1989 May 4. 320 (18).
pp 1214-1217.
Correspondence: Handgun Regulations, Crime, Assaults, And
Homicide: A Tale Of Two Cities.
Blackman-Paul-H. Hagen-Tim. Morris-David-C.
Stolinsky-David-C. Tirer-Samuel. Gryder-John-W.
Kuziak-John-D. Sloan-John-H. Kellerman-Arthur-L-Kellermann.
Rivara-Fred-P. Koepsell-Thomas. Reay-Donald-T.
LoGerfo-James-P. Rice-Charles. Ferris-James-A. Gray-Laurel-
A. Mercy-James-A. Houk-Vernon-N.
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File: suicide.1
The New England Journal of Medicine. 1990 Feb 8. 322 (6).
pp 369-373.
Special Article: Firearm Regulations And Rates Of Suicide:
A Comparison of Two Metropolitan Areas.
Sloan-John-Henry. Rivara-Frederick-P. Reay-Donald-T.
Ferris-James-A-J. Kellermann-Arthur-L.
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File: suicide.2
The New England Journal of Medicine. 1990 Jul 12. 323 (2).
p 137.
Correspondence: Firearm Regulations and Rates of Suicide.
Blackman-Paul-H. Sloan-John-Henry. Rivara-Frederick-P.
Kellermann-Arthur.
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File: totc
The New England Journal of Medicine. 1988 Nov 10. 319 (19).
pp 1256-1262.
Special Article: Handgun Regulations, Crime, Assaults, And
Homicide: A Tale of Two Cities.
Sloan-John-Henry. Kellermann-Arthur-L. Reay-Donald-T.
Ferris-James-A. Koepsell-Thomas. Rivara-Frederick-P.
Rice-Charles. Gray-Laurel. LoGerfo-James.
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File: nra.cdc
An open letter from Paul H. Blackman, of NRA to the Director, Office
of Scientific Integrity Review, U.S. Public Health Service, detailing
why they should evaluate the integrity and competency of firearms research
conducted by and for the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
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File: RKBA.000
What the RKBA.nnn files are all about.
The RKBA.nnn series are set of small (60-100 lines typically) postings
that address common questions and myths about all aspects of firearms.
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File: RKBA.001
Accidental deaths by firearms and by other means.
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FILE: RKBA.002
Declining trend of accidental deaths by firearms
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File: RKBA.003
Homicide per capita in the US
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File: RKBA.004
Children and firearms
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File: RKBA.008
Annual firearm manufacture in the United States
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File: RKBA.010
Declaration of Independence
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File: RKBA.013
Trend in weapons use for robberies (1974-86)
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File: RKBA.014
Reasons for homicide and non-negligent manslaughter
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File: RKBA.015
Are firearms a leading cause of death of children?
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File: RKBA.016
Is the United States the most violent nation?
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File: RKBA.999
Complete list of all sources used for the RKBA.nnn series.
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File: cox-study
Analysis of the Cox Atlanta Journal Constitution, 21 May 1989 article
on Assault Weapons, by James J. Baker of NRA-ILA, before the Select
Committee on Narcotics Abuse and Control, U.S. House of Representatives.
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File: feder11.txt
The Federalist Papers, as transcribed by Project Gutenberg 1.1
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File: great-quotes
Thomas Jefferson quotes and more ...
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File: civilian
Civilian Possession of Military Firearms, by Richard A. I. Munday,
from the January/February 1988 issue of the UK Handgunner.
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File: good-go-bad
"When Good, Law-Abiding Citizens Go Bad", from UK Handgunner No. 46
Jan-Feb 1989. Discusses how the rate of compliance of gun control
laws is always very low, even among otherwise law abiding citizens.
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File: tory-national-socialism
"Tory National Socialism", by Richard A.I. Munday, UK Handgunner,
Jul-Aug 86. Discusses the gun control leanings of socialists of
the right.
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File: the-big-lie
" Gun Grabbers vs. Assault Rifles: The Big Lie" by Neal Knox,
Semi-auto military-styled "assault" rifles are not now nor have they
ever been a threat to society. These facts have been determined by
the government - but never released to the public!
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File: ff-47
"The Founding Fathers and the AK-47", by Sue Wimmershoff-Caplan
Discuss the question if the Founding Fathers would have approved of
the AK-47 for civilian ownership.
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File: hcikkk
"Handgun Control, Inc., & the KKK" by David Kopel, from the Oct 91
issue of Gun World magazine. Discusses the parallels in the hate
campaigns of the Ku Klux Klan and Handgun Control, Inc.
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File: rkba-orgs
A list of organizations devoted to the preservation of the Second
Amendment.
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File: victoria
"The Gun Law Handbook" for the state of Victoria, Australia (Oct 1988).
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File: nra-purposes
A summary of the NRA's purposes and objectives, and positions on some
gun control issues.
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File: ktw
A collection of articles relating to teflon coated, armor piercing
bullets.
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File: thompsoncenter
The Supreme Court decision in the case:
United States of America v. Thompson/Center Arms Co.
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File: DMN_Gratia_CCP
"Concealed weapons can prevent tragedies like Killeen's" by
Dr. Suzanna Gratia in the Dallas Morning News, Sunday April
29th, 1992
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File: Knox_AW_lies
Neal Knox on how military style semi-auto's are not a threat
to public safety, how they are not fundamentally different
than ordinary hunting weapons, and how the gun grabbers are
exploiting the bad image this class of weapons has to enact
further gun control.
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File: WSJ_Crimestrik
"The NRA Mounts a Militant Campaign Taking Aim at Criminal-Justice
System" by Alix M. Freedman staff reporter of The Wall Street Journal.
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File: med-media
"Gun Prohibition in the Medical Literature - Telling the Truth?" by
Edgar A. Suter, MD ; discusses anti-gun bias in medical journals.
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File: toy-guns
"Court Psychologist Says Toy Guns Are Good For Children" from Gun Week,
1989.
Glen David Skoler, court psychologist for the Arlington County, VA,
claims "toys of violence" -- including toy guns are, in fact, good
for children.
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File: awca89-appeal
Text of the 9th Circuit court of Appeals in the Fresno Rifle and Pistol
Club challenge to California's Roberti-Roos Assault Weapon Control Act
of 1989.
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File: lp92-rkba
The right to keep and bear arms plank of the 1992 National Platform of
the Libertarian Party.
And a reproduction of the Libertarian Party brochure
"Responsible Gun Ownership: Equal Rights for America's Gun Owners"
The entire 1992 National Platform of the LP is available via anonymous
ftp on think.com in the file /pub/libernet/LP/libertarian-platform-1992
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File: let-july91
An article from the July/August 1991 issue of Law Enforcement Technology
with a survey of police officers on their views of gun control.
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File: nacp-poll
A study conducted by the National Association of the Chiefs of
Police (NACP) through its American Law Enforcement Survey for 1989,
in which 16,259 chiefs of police, sheriffs and law-enforcement command
personnel were polled with a list of 30 questions, it was determined
the overwhelming majority of officers support the right of private
arms ownership, and agreed that gun bans had little effect on crime.
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File: hci-advert
A example of the propaganda used by HCI in soliciting contributions.
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File: hci-transcript
A transcription of the HCI video tape "America Needs a National
Handgun Control Policy"
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File: gartner
Michael Gartner, president of NBC News, calls for a ban on handguns
in this USA TODAY Thursday January 16th 1992 editorial.
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File: nra-lp
A resolution passed by the voting membership of the NRA at its national
convention in Anaheim, CA stating the NRA will support third party
candidates.
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File: cooley
Thomas M. Cooley, LL.D., General Principles of Constitutional Law in
the United States of America, 298-299 (3rd ed. 1898), a leading
constitutional commentator discussed the rights protected by the Second
Amendment:
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File: kilpatrick
"Gun Law Might Curb Rising Murder Rate" by James Kilpatrick, St. Louis
Post-Dispatch Tuesday June 23, 1992. Kilpatrick expresses support for
a national firearms law as proposed by C. Everett Koop, that is, a
requirement that gun owners pass a competency test, among other things.
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File: vanity-fair
A summary of the 10 page article on Jim and Sarah Brady which appeared
in the January '91 issue of Vanity Fair Magazine.
Question: "Was it true you wanted to get a gun to protect
yourself against Hinckley?"
Answer Jim brady: "I had a gun"
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File: goldwin
"Gun Control Is Constitutional," by Robert A. Goldwin from the
Wall Street Journal edtorial page, Thrusday, December 12, 1991
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File: anniston
Two articles on a murder averted in Anniston, Alabama by a man
with a CCW permit. The importance of this event is that it closely
followed the murders by Hennard in Texas, but the media did not
cover Anniston.
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File: staggers-brady
A survey of public support for the Staggers Instant Background
Check and the Brady Waiting Period. The basic finding is that
once the public understands the advantages of the instant background
check vs. the problems with the Brady waiting period support for
the Brady waiting period diminishes greatly.
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File: brady-vote
How Congress voted on the Staggers Instant Background Check and
the Brady Waiting period.
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File: vs-vote
How Congress voted on the Volkmer-Sensenbrenner Amendment to
strike the new gun control sections from the administration
crime bill.
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File: dc-vote
How the U.S. Senate voted on S. 2113, the repeal of the District
of Columbia's anti-gun strict liability law.
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File: covey
"Gun Control: Trying the Facts, Weighing the Values" A monograph based
on "Crime, Inequality, Guns, & Equity" by Preston K. Covey, Ph.D.,
Director Center for the Advancement of Applied Ethics, Carnegie Mellon
University.
Addresses the desirability of gun bans: ethical aspects, equity issues,
and other values at stake in the management of mortal risks, deadly
force and its instruments.
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File: assays-of-bias
"Assays of Bias on the Second Amendment: The Media Elite" by
Preston K. Covey, Director Center for the Advancement of Applied
Ethics [excerpts from a longer monograph]
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File: cleveland
A critique of:
ACCIDENTAL FIREARM FATALITIES IN A METROPOLITAN COUNTY (1958-1973)
Rushforth, Hirsch, Ford, and Adelson
American Journal of Epidemiology #100, 1974, pp. 499-505.
This is THE study that lies at the heart of the gun control
claim that owning a firearm for self-defense is too dangerous.
The claims that a defensive gun is X (=6 in this study)
times more likely to be used against an innocent person than
in lawful self-defense originated with this report in 1974.
by Robert I. Kesten
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File: tiananmen-lessons
"LESSONS FROM TIANANMEN SQUARE" by Neal Knox reprinted from
Guns & Ammo, September 1989
Why the Second Amendment is so important, even in todays more
"progressive" era. Included is a description of the 1932
Bonus March in Washington, DC in which Gen. Douglas MacArthur
opposed unemployed WWI veterans lobbying for the government to
immediately pay their promised Veteran's Bonus.
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File: forward-trace
"California FFL Dealer Defies "Forward Trace"" by Neal Talbot in
The New Gun Week, March 1, 1991.
Details how the BATF bullies FFL holders into giving BATF copies
of 4473's in violation of federal law.
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File: justice-stats
"Handgun Crime Victims", by Michael R. Rand, Bureau of Justice Statistics
Statistician, U.S. Department of Justice.
This Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report describes the key findings
from an analysis of handgun crimes reported in the National Crime Survey
for 1979-87. It describes the victims of hand-gun [sic] crime, how the
handgun was used during the crime, and the nature and extent of handgun
crime injury. It also provides information on handgun offenders, the
location of handgun crimes, and whether the crime was reported to the
police.
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File: chafee
Included are:
1) Transcript of press conference with Senator John Chafee, and former
Supreme Court justice Warren Burger on S. 2913, Chafee's, handgun ban.
Also speaking was Vernon Jordan, former member of the Jimmy Carter
White House; Mayor Sharon Pratt Kelly; Michael Beard of National
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence; Michael Casserly (executive director,
Council of the Great City Schools); Dr. Carden Johnston representing
the American Academy of Pediatrics;
2) An article by Neal Knox in which he describes how Sarah Brady kicked
out HCI president Charles Orasin because of a disagreement on Chafee's
handgun ban.
3) An article on Burger's support for S. 2913.
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File: alarmist-view
"Gun Registration: An 'Alarmist' View" by Jon vanWormer; reprinted
from the December 1985 Guns & Ammo. How an rkba moderate became a
radical.
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File: fackler-papers
A list of articles by "Col. Martin L. Fackler, M.D., F.A.C.S."
Wound Ballistics Lab, and where to write for copies of them.
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File: gun-war
"THE GREAT AMERICAN GUN WAR" by Barry Bruce-Briggs,
_The_Public_Interest_ No. 45, Fall 1976, pp 37-62
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File: george-will
"Repeal Second Amendment and Save Lives", by George Will
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File: reeves
"Drastic Steps to End the War at Home" by Richard Reeves, no date
nor publication available; placed in rkba archive 9/2/92
"Studies _Prove_ Gun Control Works" by Richard Reeves, from the
Kansas City Star, 9/28/92.
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File: canada-ban-list
A reproduction of a brochure from the Canadian Department of Justice
listing newly prohibited and restricted firearms (as of June 1992).
Also included is the "point system" used to determine if a firearm
should be reviewed for possible banning.
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File: copkiller
Lyrics to the rock song "Cop Killer" by Ice-T on the album Body Count.
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File: cva.1
A letter from the California Voters Alliance, asking for support in
their effort to defeat anti-gun California Assemblyman Terry Friedman,
co-author of California's waiting period law for rifles and shotguns.
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File: astrology
"CRIMINOLOGY'S ASTROLOGY: The CDC Approach to Public Health Research
on Firearms and Violence" by PAUL H. BLACKMAN, Ph.D., Institute for
Legislative Action, National Rifle Association, 1990
A paper presented at the annual meetings of the American Society of
Criminology, Baltimore, Maryland, November 7-10
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File: aw-panic
The Assault Weapon Panic: "Political Correctness" Takes Aim,
at the Constitution, by Eric Morgan and David Kopel
Published by The Independence Institute, October 10, 1991
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File: state-rkba
A collection of RKBA provisions from State constitutions.
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File: too-late
Chapter 13 "But then it was too Late" of "THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE
FREE: The Germans, 1933 - 1945", by: Milton Mayer, University of
Chicago Press
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File: militia-code
The legal definition of the militia of the United States of America
taken from:
United Stated Code (USC), TITLE 10, Section 311 and Section 312.
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File: legal-mg-crime
Report No. 32 of the Firearms Coalition of Silver Spring, MD. 11/29/89
by Neal Knox. Knox reports that a legally registered machine gun was
used in a drug hit. Subsequent reports said charges were dropped for
lack of evidence.
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File: hci-cash
HCI donation records to US Senators and Congressmen.
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File: paulreverenet
Information about the "Paul Revere Net", a network of 2nd Amendment
Bulletin Boards
The Paul Revere Network (PRN) is a coast-to-coast network of
committed grass-roots gun rights activists who rely upon computer
bulletin board systems for their primary mode of communication.
Leroy Pyle (NRA Director and 27-year San Jose police veteran)
is Founder and Director of the PRN. Based in San Jose, CA,
Pyle's BBS (1:143/223) currently hubs all network message
traffic.
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File: gun-talk
Information about the NRA-ILA Bulletin Board "Gun Talk"
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File: congressgrades
A grading of congressmen based their votes on 1) the Brady Bill
(HR7), 2) Staggers (HR1412) and 3) the Volkmer-Sensenbrenner amendment
to strike the anti-gun provisions from the house crime bill (HR3371).
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File: lawmaster
"FEDS TRASH LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNER'S HOME", NRA official journal March
1992, by Richard E. Gardiner. Details how the BATF raided the home of
Johnny Lawmaster in search of a non-existent unregistered M-16 auto-sear.
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File: point-blank
The concluding chapter to "Point Blank" by Gary Kleck.
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File: purdy-rapsheet
Patrick Purdy's criminal record.
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File: progundocs
Statement of purpose and contact information for "Doctors for Integrity
in Research & Public Policy"
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File: orlando
A summary of the effects of the highly publicized Orlando training
program in which over 6000 women were trained in basic pistol
marksmanship and the law of self-defense.
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File: form4signoff
A letter from Wayne Miller, Chief National Firearms Act Branch of
BATF stating that local law enforcement signoff on the ATF Form 4,
application for Taxpaid Transfer and Registration of Firearm [i.e.,
machine gun], is completely discretionary.
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File: badlands.txt
New Zealand Firearms Control by Robert Badlands.
A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne
University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was
sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia.
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File: danto.txt
Issues Regarding Gun Control in America by Bruce L. Danto
A paper was presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne
University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was
sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia.
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File: fine.txt
Impediments to the Purposeful Reform of (Australian) Firearms Laws by J. D.
Fine
A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne
University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was
sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia.
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File: greenwd.txt
Untitled paper by Colin Greenwood
A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne
University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was
sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia.
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File: kates.txt
Gun Control: Recent Research on the American Experience by Don B. Kates,
Jr.
A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne
University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was
sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia.
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File: marsden.txt
Gun Control: A Banker's Perspective, by ??? Marsden
A paper presented at a conference on Gun Control held at Melbourne
University-Union Theatre 27-28 August 1988. The conference was
sponsored by the Sporting Shooters' Association of Australia.
Note, this paper is almost impossible to read currently as the original
would not scan well. A more readable copy will be supplied later.
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File: backdoor
Back Door Gun Control by Peter Alan Kasler from the January 1993
issue of American Survival Guide magazine.
Kasler discusses four examples of innocent people whose firearms
are confiscated, and/or charged with a crime when none was committed,
as examples of how gun control is implemented in the real world.
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File: armed-citizen
"The Armed Citizen" feature from "The American Rifleman" and "The
American Hunter"; these stories show how firearms are indeed useful
for self-defense.
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File: botsford
The Case Against Gun Control by David Botsford
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File: academia-bias
"Fighting Anti-Gun Bias in Academia -- an article downloaded from the
NRA-ILA BBS "Gun Talk"
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File: story-of-gun
"The Story of a Gun" by Erik Larson, from "The Atlantic", January 1993.
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File: hcr**
Reports to the Firearms Coalition, by Neal Knox.
All these files are named hcr then two numbers, e.g., hcr51 for
"Report No. 51 to the Firearms Coalition"
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File: whose.txt
"Whose Side Are They On ?"
"Freedom From War: The United States Program For General and Complete
Disarmament in a Peaceful World." an official publication of the United
States of America government.
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File: nccfa
Contact information for the "National Collegiate Coalition for Firearms
Awareness"
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File: canada
Some facts about Canadian gun control laws, gun ownership and violent
crime.
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File: time-letter
Time magazine's form letter response to criticism of their
"Death By Gun" issue.
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File: gun-in-school
"Health Objectives for the Nation: Weapon-Carrying Among High School
Students -- United States, 1990" edited by David Dodell, D.M.D.
Proposes ways to reduce carrying of firearms by high school students.
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File: congress-cover
"Congress Covers Itself But Not Public" by Paul Craig Roberts, printed
in the Cleveland Plain Dealer October 2nd, 1992.
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File: hamper
"Restrictions hamper law abiding folks, not criminals." by
David B. Kopel, printed in the Columbus OH Dispatch, January 16th.
Points out how waiting periods can cause a great deal of harm.
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File: schumer-gripe
A "Washington Post" letter to the editor by Congessman Charles E. Schumer
discussing his bill, H.R. 5633, which requires law enforcement sign-off
on FFL applications.
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File: sof
A UPI article on a lawsuit against "Soldier of Fortune" which forced
them out of business.
This article is copyright by UPI, and archived with permission; please
respect the re-distribution prohibition.
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File: fl-stats
A summary of CCW permit statistics for the state of Florida, e.g.,
the number of permits issued, number revoked, number denied, etc.
This proves that people obtaining CCW permits are law abiding
citizens and are not wreckless with their firearms.
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File: knox-on-ruger
"Knox Replies To Comment From Ruger Counsel's" from
The New Gun Week, December 1, 1989.
Neal Knox discusses how Sturm, Ruger Inc. are willing to sacrifice the
RKBA for the benefit of their business.
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File: american-blacks
"Gun Control and American Blacks" by Raymond G. Kessler (pp. 476-478)
In the United States, the experience of blacks from slavery
through the 1960's was one of the clearest and best-documented
examples of the political functions of gun control.
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File: nraction*
The NRA-ILAs little known newsletter "NRAction"; names will have the
month and year at the end, e.g., nraction0291.
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File: americamilitia
"America's Militia" by David B. Kopel, appeared in "Gun World" magazine
December 1992.
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File: hci93agenda
The "Action Agenda for a National Gun Policy" by HCI.
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File: hci-newsletter
The Handgun Control Semi-Annual Progress Report for December 1992.
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File: hattoripetition
A petition written by the host family of Japanese exchange student
Yoshihiro Hattori, who was killed when he went to the wrong home for
a Halloween party:
"To protest the easy availability of firearms in the United States"
which will be presented to President Clinton.
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File: hci-election
"What the Election Means for Our Gun Control Movement" by Sarah Brady.
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File: centerwall
University of Washington Pyschiatrist Dr. Brandon Centerwall writing
in the April 1989 American Journal of Epidemiology says that television
exposure is related to half of the homicides in the United States.
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File: va-outrage
"An Outrage in Virginia" by Neal Knox. Describes how BATF used a
Virginia gun dealer to general strawman sales and then later "traced"
those guns back to VA so they could claim 40% of guns they traced
came from VA. When the dealer stopped cooperating they were convicted
of conducting strawman sales, one of the owners committed suicide.
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File: factcard93
The 1993 Firearms Fact Card published by the NRA-ILA
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File: nejm43
A letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal by Preston Covey
on the factoid "You are 43 times more likely to kill someone you know
with a gun than a criminal."
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File: gifford
An op-ed piece by Dan Gifford which appeared in the March 8 1993 issue
of the Cleveland Plain Dealer; it discusses the issue of police abuses
and citizen self defense against such abuses.
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File: reynolds
An editorial "Gun Makers Must Pay the Price" by Mel Reynolds (D-IL),
member US House of Representatives, which appeared in the 02/15/93
issue of the Chicago Tribune.
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File: pozner
"Gun Control" with Vladamir Pozner (yes, the commie) and Phil Donahue
from a Feb. 25 1993 broadcast on CNBC.
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File: trustpeople
CATO Institute Policy Analysis No. 109, July 11, 1988
"TRUST THE PEOPLE: THE CASE AGAINST GUN CONTROL," by David B. Kopel
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File: bitterprice
The British Shooter Pays A Bitter Price, by Keith G. N. Nicholson
from the American Rifleman, March 1993.
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File: batman
"Cartoon Campaign for Gun Control" from the March 8th 1993 issue
of "New American"
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File: batfss
"Waco Shootout Evokes Memory of Warsaw '43" from the Wall Street
Journal, Monday, March 15, 1993
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File: academics
Contact information for "Academics for the Second Amendment"
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File: propaganda
Anti-Gun-Ownership Propaganda, by Doan Boal in the March, '92 issue
of Survival Guide.
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File: media-fairness
Media Fairness Action Plan Is Continuing, by James H. Warner, NRA Ass't
General Counsel, from American Rifleman, March 1993, page 54.
This describes the FCC's "personal attack" rule and how the NRA may
take advantage of this rule against broadcasters who attack the NRA.
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File: artconf
ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION, Proposed by Congress November 15, 1777,
Ratified and effective March 1, 1781
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File: pending-bills
A list of the currently pending gun control bills in the US Seante and
House of Representatives.
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File: noduty
Self-Reliance For Self-Defense -- Police Protection Isn't Enough!
by Peter Kasler
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File: leftout
The Second Amendment: A Right Left Out, by Doctor Linda Karen Miller
appearing in The American Rifleman, February 1993, p. 33.
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File: copsnguns
WHAT COPS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE GUN ISSUE! by Leroy Pyle,
from the May 1992 issue of Guns&Ammo.
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File: crossfire
A transcript of the Wednesday, March 3 1993 edition of the CNN
show CROSSFIRE. The participants are Michael Kinsley, John Sununu,
Rep. Charles Schumer (D-NY) Criminal Justice Subcmte.,
and J.F. = Rep. Jack Fields (R-TX)
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File: naziconnection
The WAR ON GUN OWNERSHIP STILL GOES ON! -- GUN CONTROL'S NAZI CONNECTION!
by Craig Peterson from the May 1993 issue of Guns & Ammo.
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File: armedcriminal
The Armed Criminal in America, by James Wright, 1986. A Research in
Brief published by the National Institute of Justice.
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File: bigotry
"BIGOTRY, SYMBOLISM AND IDEOLOGY IN THE BATTLE OVER GUN CONTROL" by
Don Kates, from the 1992 "Public Interest Law Review"
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File: flmurd.ps
File: gamurd.ps
File: idmurd.ps
File: mtmurd.ps
File: nodiscr.ps
File: ormurd.ps
File: pamurd.ps
File: philmurd.ps
File: utmurd.ps
File: vamurd.ps
File: wamurd.ps
File: wvmurd.ps
CCW laws and murder rates in several states, by Clayton Cramer. These
are all PostScript files and require the use of PostScript printer to
print.
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File: hammer
Marion Hammer on the Failure of Gun Control, downloaded from Gun Talk.
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File: threechiefs
The views of Police Chiefs Daryl Gates (LA), Lee Brown (NYC), LeRoy Martin
(Chicago) on gun control and other civil rights.
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RKBA archive: general information and anonymous ftp instructions.
The moderator of the firearms-politics mailing list, Karl Kleinpaste,
has agreed to set up an anonymous ftp archive directory for RKBA
related information. This directory can be used for things like
articles by Kates, Wright, Tonso, Levinson, Supreme Court Decisions,
the RIA vs US decision, copies of legislation, and so on. It's not
meant to be for the discussions that normally appear here.
So, in the future if you're looking for something check there first
and then ask here.
Instructions:
Short version for techies:
The site is godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu. Place contributions into the
directory /usr0/anon/pub/firearms/politics/rkba. The ftp commands
get, put, mget, or mput should work. Give the command "type binary"
to be sure files are transferred correctly. Your files will be moved
to the rkba directory. To get a file use the commands get or mget.
I will maintain an index which you should get first to check if
the file you want to read or write already is archived.
Long version for non-techies:
In order for you to use this archive your computer must be on
the Internet. To connect to the archive site run the command:
ftp godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu
If that doesn't work you cannot use this archive. If the ftp
command is successful you'll get this prompt asking you for a
login:
Name (godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu:lvc):
Instead of lvc your initials will appear. Answer this prompt with:
ftp
Next you'll get this prompt asking your for your e-mail address:
Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password:
I would enter:
l.v.cipriani@att.com
You'll enter your own e-mail address. You'll get these lines
or similar as output:
Remote system is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
Next, the command prompt is printed:
ftp>
If you do not get the line "Using binary mode to transfer files."
Run the command:
type binary
Now you're logged in to the archive machine. There are many
directories on this machine but the two you are concerned with are
/usr0/anon/pub/firearms/politics/rkba
and
/usr0/anon/pub/firearms/politics/incoming
There are subdirectories to the rkba directory, those are discussed below.
When you login to the system your directory is /usr0/anon. To retreive
files change your current directory to the rkba directory with the command:
cd /usr0/anon/pub/firearms/politics/rkba
or
cd pub/firearms/politics/rkba
To submit files change your directory to the incoming directory with
the command:
cd /usr0/anon/pub/firearms/politics/incoming
or
cd pub/firearms/politics/incoming
Once you do this you'll get another ftp> prompt asking you to enter
another command.
To find the names of the existing files in the directory you are
in run the command:
ls -l
This will produce something like:
total 6021
-r--r--r-- 1 karl 6932 Jun 16 1992 DMN_Gratia_CCP
-r--r--r-- 1 karl 69149 Apr 5 19:20 INDEX
-r--r--r-- 1 karl 18965 Jun 16 1992 Knox_AW_lies
-r--r--r-- 1 karl 10930 Apr 30 1992 S361
-r--r--r-- 1 karl 8958 Jun 16 1992 WSJ_Crimestrike
-r--r--r-- 1 karl 2649 Jan 13 18:33 academia-bias
-r--r--r-- 1 karl 935 Mar 22 22:38 academics
-r--r--r-- 1 karl 36079 Aug 4 1992 aclu
... and so on ...
Each line corresponds to one file. Reading right to left, the fields
are the file name, the last modification date of the file, the size of
the file in bytes, and some permission fields which you do not need
to be concerned with.
To get a file run the command "get" followed by the name of the file
you want, for example:
get INDEX
or
get noduty
After the file is transfered to your machine a message like this:
Transfer complete.
19580 bytes received in 5 seconds (4 Kbytes/s)
You can repeat the get command for every file you want to retreive.
You can use the mget command to retreive multiple files. If the
file you want is in a subdirectory, for example, congress/103rd/HR1025
you should change your directory to the appropriate subdirectory first
and then retrieve it:
cd congress/103rd
get HR1025
Once you're finished you can log off with the command:
quit
If you have a file you want to contribute the procedure is a little
different. First of all you should find out if the file already
exists, so get a copy of the index file with the procedure above
and look it over to make sure you wouldn't repeat an entry. The
index will have a description of each of the files in the rkba
directory. For example:
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File: whitemanslaw
White Man's Law by William R. Tonso, from the December 1985
Reason magazine
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Once you've determined you won't be duplicating an entry, login
and change to the incoming directory command (see above). Once
you are in the incoming directory use the command:
put file_name
In this case:
put whitemanslaw
Again there'll be a "Transfer complete, so many bytes transfered
in so many seconds" message. Now your file is on the archive
machine.
Another thing to watch out for is duplicate file /names/. Be sure
there isn't a file in the incoming directory that is called the same
as the file you want to write. If you use the same name you'll
overwrite the previous file [or you'll get an error message].
Your file may have to be renamed if there is a conflict with a
file by the same name in the rkba directory.
Once your file is in the incoming directory send me an entry for
the INDEX file and I will add it to the file.
If you cannot use anonymous ftp and would still like to contribute
a file email the file to me and I'll take care of the rest.
If you submit a file and do not notify me it may be removed, so
be sure to let me know first.
If you have any questions feel free to ask me.
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--
Larry Cipriani -- l.v.cipriani@att.com
--
Michael Phelps, (external) mjp@vnet.ibm.com ..
(internal) mjp@bwa.kgn.ibm.com .. mjp at kgnvmy
(and last but not least a disclaimer) These opinions are mine..
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From: ds0007@medtronic.COM (Dale M. Skiba)
Subject: Re: BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS and Archer
Nntp-Posting-Host: bass.pace.medtronic.com
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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Jenny Anderson (jennya@well.sf.ca.us) wrote:
: medtronic.COM (Dale M. Skiba) entirely missed my point in my previous
: posting, in which I wrote:
: COMMENT:
: Shortly after that post, I realized two things: I was running a fever of
: over 102, and that I probably should not have gone directly from reading
: alt.slack to posting on this august newsgroup.
: >: >it is not ad hominen to point out that Mr Archer willingly prints blatant
: >: lies
: >: >in defense of Bible inerrancy, and thus is worthless as an expert witness.
: >: Okay, Im game, give us a listing of blatant lies from _Encyclopedia of
: >: Biblical Difficulties_ or other Archer writings.
: >That would be interesting. If only a very short list can be generated,
: >I think it is more likely that Mr. Archer, with his inerancy mindset is
: >not always impartial and made a doozy of a mistake. (IMHO I also think
: >that this mindset tends to generate these sorts of mistakes...)
: >On the other hand, if a long list can be generated, it is more likely
: >that Mr. Archer intentionally uses deception in hs books. (Why should
: >he be deceptive just with Tyre?)
: So, Archer is just sitting around, rubbing his hands and plotting how next
: to deceive? OK, lets _see_ the list...
This was an open question. I assumed that if Mr. Archer is a chronic
liar, someone whould have documented it. This assumption is based on
how talk.origins regulars have documented numerous cases of Creationist
deceptions (such as Duane Guish and his friends).
No long list of Archer mistakes has yet been given, so this may be just
an isolated incident...
--
Dale Skiba
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From: niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma)
Subject: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series
Nntp-Posting-Host: ug.cs.dal.ca
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In <C5HxLK.FIx@andy.bgsu.edu> klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Klopfenstein) writes:
>dtate+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
>> klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Klopfenstein) said:
>>>
>>>I just love how the Alomar fans left RBIs off this list.
>>
>> Of *course* they left RBIs off; we're comparing Alomar the individual with
>> Baerga the individual, so only individual stats count.
>>
>>>Give me a break!
>I forgot. Most runs are scored by players stealing home, so RBI don't
>count for anything.
>My mistake.
Oh, oh, we all know what's going to happen now don't we!
Gord Niguma
(fav player: John Olerud)
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From: rene@hardy.u.washington.edu (Rene Magritte)
Subject: Re: Win NT - what is it???
Article-I.D.: shelley.1qnaesINNemf
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wild@access.digex.com (wildstrom) writes:
>rmohns@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>Chicogo is what I want to use. It is, like NT, a true OS with thrue
>>multitasking and multithreading, but has much smaller hardware requirements,
>>and does not meet DOD security specs (but that's okay since it will probably
>>be more of a client OS). there are a few otehr differences, but those are the
>>main ones. There was an article about Chicogo in PC Week last August.
>> The Chicogo and NT development groups at Micro$oft are in intense
>>competition, so it is said. However, I think a different relationship will
>>arise: NT will be the server (*N*etowrk *T*echonology), Chicogo will be the
>>client machine. It is entirely possible for different OS's to work together,
>>partly because Chicogo is just a small NT (think of it that way, anyway).
>>(Novell Netware creates an OS on the server that is truly not DOS, so don't
>>scorn the concept.)
>> Anyway, don't expect it soon. Windows 4 and DOS 7 are supposed to be
>>released next year (read: see it in 95), so I expect that Chicogo won't be out
>>til '96.
>How does Chicago differ from the (sort of) announced Windows 4. My understand-
>ing, at least from the InbfoWorld accound of Windows 4 is that it's sort
>of NT Lite--a full-fledged operating system but lacking server and security
>features that make NT such a bear. Is W4 not true multithreading?
Can anyone tell me how Chicago/Windows 4 would differ from
OS/2 2.x? Believe it or not, I'm not trying to start a flame war,
here. I'm simply curious if there is going to be any feature
advantage in either of these products (I do not consider the fact that
it has uncle bills seal of approval much of a feature...)
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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: Lavishly Funded "Gun Epidemic" Propaganda Campaign to Commence
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
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Distribution: world
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In article <C4txEK.FCq@magpie.linknet.com>, manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes:
> Morris the Cat (rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com) wrote:
>
> : Well, as Neal Knox of the Firearms Coalition points out, the full
> : force of the anti-gun ruling class, their multi-millions, their
> : polling organizations, their schools, their news media, their
> : "entertainment" media
>
> The entertainment media... a "force of the anti-gun ruling class"??
> Is this the same media that's made billions producing films and
> television that glorify guns and gun users? Or is that another
> anti-gun media?
>
> You've got to be kidding.
By this, do you mean that you consider it absolutely impossible for the
media to be guilty of hypocrisy?
Note that the film industry in California traded their political support
for an "assault weapon" ban in the state for an amendment to the bill
exempting the entertainment industry from that very ban.
Note that the very issue of the Batman comic book ("Seduction of the Gun")
that was produced as a tool for gun-control organizations carries a back-
page ad for a "Terminator II" video game extolling the numerous and
varied sophisticated weapons available to the player.
Note that Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, publisher of the NY Times -- one of the
oldest and most incessant gun-control grinders -- himself carries a
concealed handgun.
Still, you find it completely incredible that these folks live by the
aphorism, "Do as I say, and not as I do."
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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From: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on a 1982 Yamaha Seca Turbo?
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
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Reply-To: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu
In a previous article, howp@skyfox () says:
>I was wondering if anybody knows anything about a Yamaha Seca Turbo. I'm
>considering buying a used 1982 Seca Turbo for $1300 Canadian (~$1000 US)
>with 30,000 km on the odo. This will be my first bike. Any comments?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Because of this I cannot in good faith recommend a Seca Turbo. Power
delivery is too uneven for a novice. The Official (tm) Dod newbie
bike of choice would be more appropriate because the powerband is so wide
and delivery is very smooth. Perfect for the beginner.
--
DoD #650<----------------------------------------------------------->DarkMan
The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of
thinking we were at when we created them. - Albert Einstein
___________________The Eternal Champion_________________
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From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger)
Subject: More TV Info
Distribution: na
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United States Coverage:
Sunday April 18
N.J./N.Y.I. at Pittsburgh - 1:00 EDT to Eastern Time Zone
ABC - Gary Thorne and Bill Clement
St. Louis at Chicago - 12:00 CDT and 11:00 MDT - to Central/Mountain Zones
ABC - Mike Emerick and Jim Schoenfeld
Los Angeles at Calgary - 12:00 PDT and 11:00 ADT - to Pacific/Alaskan Zones
ABC - Al Michaels and John Davidson
Tuesday, April 20
N.J./N.Y.I. at Pittsburgh - 7:30 EDT Nationwide
ESPN - Gary Thorne and Bill Clement
Thursday, April 22 and Saturday April 24
To Be Announced - 7:30 EDT Nationwide
ESPN - To Be Announced
Canadian Coverage:
Sunday, April 18
Buffalo at Boston - 7:30 EDT Nationwide
TSN - ???
Tuesday, April 20
N.J.D./N.Y. at Pittsburgh - 7:30 EDT Nationwide
TSN - ???
Wednesday, April 21
St. Louis at Chicago - 8:30 EDT Nationwide
TSN - ???
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From: mjerger@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (militant archangel)
Subject: hp48sx with 128k
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 12
HP 48SX calculator with 128K card. Have manuals, boxes, pc cable, etc. Only
5 months old, hardly used.
Make an offer.
Mike
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Mike Jerger | Internet: mjerger@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: nigel@cnw01.storesys.coles.oz.au (Nigel Harwood)
Subject: Adaptec ASW-410 and Sony CDU-641
Organization: Coles Supermarkets
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About two months ago I purchased the Adaptec ASW-410 driver for use with a
CD-ROM drive. At the time this seemed the thing to do as the documentation I
had with my Adaptec SCSI controller said that this is the driver to be used with
CD-ROM drives. Since then I have learn that this driver is out of date in a
major way and that Adaptec have an upgrade deal for going to the next driver
(I think it's called EZI-SCSI or something). I wasn't too fussed about this
until I upgraded by CD-ROM drive from a Sony CDU-541 to a Sony CDU-641. I now
find that the audio-mode will not work. I assume it is not being handled
correctly by the ASW-410 driver.
So, should I chase Adaptec for an upgrade? If so does anyone know their
FAX number?
Any assistance appreciated.
Regards
BTW: everything else works fine, certainly seems that Sony have caught up with
the rest with the 641.
--
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nigel Harwood >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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From: mantolov@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Michael Antolovich)
Subject: Re: Ethernet card that uses A/Rose?
Organization: Charles Sturt University - Riverina, Wagga Wagga, NSW, Australia
Lines: 11
In article <aaron_bratcher-140493082909@fpm-mac-1.uchicago.edu> aaron_bratcher@fpm.uchicago.edu (Aaron Bratcher) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is an ethernet card that takes advantage of the
>A/Rose extension?
Hey what does the A/Rose extension do anyway ?
Michael
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From: farenebt@logic.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy)
Subject: Re: AHL Calder Cup Playoff preview
Organization: Clarkson University
Lines: 37
Nntp-Posting-Host: logic.clarkson.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Daryl Turner (umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca) wrote:
: In article <1993Apr14.193524.25755@news.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy) writes:
: >
: >ATLANTIC DIVISION
: >
: > ST JOHN'S MAPLE LEAFS VS MONCTON HAWKS
: > MONCTON HAWKS
: >See CD Islanders. Moncton is a very similar team to CDI. Low scoring,
: >defensive, good goaltending. John Leblanc and Stu Barnes are the only
: >noticable guns on the team. But the defense is top notch and
: >Mike O'Neill is the most underrated goalie in the league.
: >
: Bri, as I have tried to tell you since 2 February, Michael O'Neill
: might be the most underrated goalie in the AHL, but he ISN'T in the
: AHL. He's on the Winnipeg Jets' injury list, as he has been since
: his first NHL start against the Ottawa Senators. He's out until
: next year after surgery to repair a shoulder separation.
: Stu Barnes might be an AHL gun for the Hawks, but he's now the third
: line center with the Jets, and has been since mid January or so.
Sorry, my memory is gone. I thought that O'Neill got sent back
down in February but I must have been given incorrect info. I guess
this says it all about Moncton because Barnes is still one of
their top 3 or so scorers even though he's been out since January.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Bri Farenell farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu +
+ AHL and ECAC contact for rec.sport.hockey Go USA Hockey! +
+ Adirondack Red Wings, Calder Cup Champs: '81 '86 '89 '92 +
+ Clarkson Hockey, ECAC Tournament Champs: '66 '91 '93 +
+ Glens Falls High Hockey, NY Division II State Champs: '90 '91 +
+ AHL fans: join the AHL mailing list: ahl-news-request@andrew.cmu.edu +
+ CONGRATS TO THE BOSTON BRUINS, 1992-93 ADAMS DIVISION CHAMPIONS +
+ PHOENIX SUNS, 1992-93 PACIFIC DIVISION CHAMPIONS +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: green@plains.NoDak.edu (Bill Green)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Article-I.D.: ns1.C5tEnu.112F
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
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Nntp-Posting-Host: plains.nodak.edu
Just to shed some light on the fire, it was widely reported (AP, etc.) that
there WERE several witnesses to BD folks starting the fires. It has also
been reported that the fires broke out in several places at once, which
rules out a Bradley knocking over a lamp, etc. as the cause.
What I would like to see is some serious discussion of this incident. I
believe the moves made were right and proper, but I still have some problems
with some of the tactics. After watching the ABC special on it tonight, as
well as CNN and Nightline, I question some of the ATF and FBI actions.
1) Could it have been possible to have taken Koresh outside the compound at
some time before the Feb. 28th raid?
2) Could a further wait have resulted in a different outcome.
3) Were FBI actions (blaring loudspeakers, etc.) the "right" course of action?
And a few other questions. Like I said, I believe the actions taken, in
general, were proper. But I still have some reservations.
One other point, I'm no fan of Janet Reno, but I do like the way she had the
"balls" to go ahead and take full responsibility. Seems like the waffle boy
had problems figuring out just where he stood on the issue.
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From: buckel@winx06.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (bernhard buckel)
Subject: Re: HELP! MY HARD DRIVE ID MESSED!
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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Dave (david@c-cat.UUCP) wrote:
: vazzag@vccnw13.its.rpi.edu (Gregory Anthony Vazzana) writes:
: {>
: {> Howdy,
: {>
: {> The other day I was using Norton's SpeedDisk to optimize my Seagate(125MB) h
: {> problem persisted. I backed up all essential data and decided to reformat
: {> my hard drive. When I attempted this it got to the 279th clylinder 8th
: {> head and gave me an error message saying that it "Could not find the sector"
: {> I have tried everything I can think of. Now I can't even access my hard driv
: {> to write information to it. I tried to boot up with my MS-DOS disks but MS-D
: {> tries to reformat my hard drive and gets 29% of the way through to say "Error
: {> formatting hard drive. Press f3 to exit" I tried to scan my hard drive
: {> for viruses but I can;t access it and I get a message (When I try to do a dir
: {> saying "Error INT 24" Can anyone Help me? I have no idea what to do.
: {>
: {> Thanks in advance for any help!
: {>
: {> Greg
: try a bios level format via the debug command.
: -G=xxxx:5 where xxxx is the Hex address of the hd controller bios
: location.
: if this will not work, a last resort would be to take a large magnet
: to the hard disk, but this has to be done properly or you will cause
: or could cause more damage than has been done already.
: disclaimer: I am not responsible for your actions by directly applying
: a large magnet to your hard disk.
: if done correctly the magnet trick will wipe out everything on the
: hard disk _COMPLETELY_ and a low level BIOS format might succeed
: -David
: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
: China Cat BBS c-cat!david@sed.csc.com
: (301)604-5976 1200-14,400 8N1 ...uunet!mimsy!anagld!c-cat!david
: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: lau@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu (frankie t. k. lau)
Subject: PC fastest line/circle drawing routines: HELP!
Organization: Brandeis University
Lines: 41
hi all,
IN SHORT: looking for very fast assembly code for line/circle drawing
on SVGA graphics.
COMPLETE:
I am thinking of a simple but fast molecular
graphics program to write on PC or clones. (ball-and-stick type)
Reasons: programs that I've seen are far too slow for this purpose.
Platform: 386/486 class machine.
800x600-16 or 1024x728-16 VGA graphics
(speed is important, 16-color for non-rendering
purpose is enough; may stay at 800x600 for
speed reason.)
(hope the code would be generic enough for different SVGA
cards. My own card is based on Trident 8900c, not VESA?)
What I'm looking for?
1) fast, very fast routines to draw lines/circles/simple-shapes
on above-mentioned SVGA resolutions.
Presumably in assembly languagine.
Yes, VERY FAST please.
2) related codes to help rotating/zooming/animating the drawings on screen.
Drawings for beginning, would be lines, circles mainly, think of
text, else later.
(you know, the way molecular graphics rotates, zooms a molecule)
2) and any other codes (preferentially in C) that can help the
project.
Final remarks;-
non-profit. expected to become share-, free-ware.
Any help is appreciated.
thanks
-Frankie
lau@tammy.harvard.edu
PS pls also email, I may miss reply-post.
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zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!uunet!olivea!sgigate!odin!fido!solntze.wpd.sgi.com!livesey
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
<1993Mar31.230523.13892@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <11705@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> <1pic4lINNrau@gap.caltech.edu>
Organization: sgi
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In article <1pic4lINNrau@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) writes:
|>
|> >My personal objection is that I find capital punishment to be
|> >cruel and unusual punishment under all circumstances.
|>
|> It can be painless, so it isn't cruel. And, it has occurred frequently
|> since the dawn of time, so it is hardly unusual.
Koff! You mean that as long as I put you to sleep first,
I can kill you without being cruel?
This changes everything.
jon.
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From: jim.wray@yob.sccsi.com (Jim Wray)
Subject: Re: My turn
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Lines: 29
Reply-To: jim.wray@yob.sccsi.com (Jim Wray)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Dan Sorenson writing:
...
DS>I'd rather not get into the Nationalized Medical Care debate
DS>here, but I find it amazing that criminals often live better than the
DS>rest of the population, in some aspects, and that we're paying for
^^^^
DS>them to do so. As an example, in November I had my annual dental
...
Here, you are somewhat in error.....in ALL respects we are paying. When we
are not paying for their countryclub incarceration, we are paying with our
lives and belongings as their prey. Upon what would they practice their
nefarious predatory acts if not for the citizens of this country. What is
amazing to me is the mindset of those who overtly and covertly perpetuate
a justice system (har) that essentially mandates that some of us offer up
ourselves as that prey while they suitably insulate themselves from the
preyground.
---
. OLX 2.2 . Church of Crime & Justice....come, let us prey!
----
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Ye Olde Bailey BBS 713-520-1569 (V.32bis) 713-520-9566 (V.32bis) |
| Houston,Texas yob.sccsi.com Home of alt.cosuard |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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From: jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez)
Subject: MLB Standings and Scores for Thu., Apr. 15th, 1993
Organization: JTC Enterprises Sports Division (Major League Baseball Dept.)
Lines: 73
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu
MLB Standings and Scores for Thursday, April 15th, 1993
(including yesterday's games)
NATIONAL WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road
Houston Astros 05 03 .625 -- 5-3 Won 5 00-03 05-00
Atlanta Braves 06 04 .600 -- 6-4 Lost 1 03-03 03-01
San Francisco Giants 05 04 .556 0.5 5-4 Lost 1 02-01 03-03
Los Angeles Dodgers 03 06 .333 2.5 3-6 Lost 3 00-02 03-04
Colorado Rockies 02 05 .286 2.5 2-5 Lost 3 02-03 00-02
San Diego Padres 02 06 .250 3.0 2-6 Lost 3 00-03 02-03
Cincinnati Reds 02 07 .222 3.5 2-7 Lost 3 01-02 01-05
NATIONAL EAST
Philadelphia Phillies 08 01 .889 -- 8-1 Won 5 05-01 03-00
Pittsburgh Pirates 06 02 .750 1.5 6-2 Won 3 03-02 03-00
St. Louis Cardinals 06 02 .750 1.5 6-2 Won 2 04-02 02-00
New York Mets 04 03 .571 3.0 4-3 Won 2 02-03 02-00
Chicago Cubs 04 05 .444 4.0 4-5 Won 1 01-02 03-03
Montreal Expos 03 05 .375 4.5 3-5 Lost 2 00-02 03-03
Florida Marlins 03 06 .333 5.0 3-6 Won 2 02-04 01-02
AMERICAN WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road
Texas Rangers 06 02 .750 -- 6-2 Lost 1 04-02 02-00
California Angels 05 02 .714 0.5 5-2 Won 3 03-02 02-00
Oakland Athletics 04 03 .571 1.5 4-3 Lost 1 04-02 00-01
Seattle Mariners 04 03 .571 1.5 4-3 Won 1 03-02 01-01
Chicago White Sox 04 04 .500 2.0 4-4 Won 1 02-03 02-01
Minnesota Twins 04 04 .500 2.0 4-4 Lost 1 01-02 03-02
Kansas City Royals 01 07 .125 5.0 1-7 Lost 2 01-05 00-02
AMERICAN EAST
Boston Red Sox 06 02 .750 -- 6-2 Won 2 02-00 04-02
New York Yankees 05 03 .625 1.0 5-3 Won 2 02-00 03-03
Toronto Blue Jays 04 03 .571 1.5 4-3 Lost 1 03-02 01-01
Detroit Tigers 03 04 .429 2.5 3-4 Won 1 01-00 02-04
Cleveland Indians 03 05 .375 3.0 3-5 Lost 2 02-01 01-04
Milwaukee Brewers 02 05 .286 3.5 2-5 Lost 4 00-02 02-03
Baltimore Orioles 02 06 .250 4.0 2-6 Won 1 00-02 02-04
YESTERDAY'S SCORES
(IDLE teams listed in alphabetical order)
NATIONAL LEAGUE AMERICAN LEAGUE
Houston 9 Baltimore 6
Montreal 5 Texas 5
Pittsburgh 11 Seattle 10
San Diego 7 Toronto 9 (10)
Chicago 6 Cleveland 7
Atlanta 0 Boston 12
Cincinnati 2 California 12
Philadelphia 9 Milwaukee 2
New York 6 Kansas City 5
Colorado 3 New York 6
Florida 6 Minnesota PPD
San Francisco 4 Chicago RAIN
St. Louis 2 Detroit IDLE
Los Angeles 1 (15) Oakland IDLE
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Joseph Hernandez | RAMS | | /.\ ******* _|_|_ / | LAKERS
jtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU | KINGS | |__ | | DODGERS _|_|_ | | RAIDERS
jtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU | ANGELS |____||_|_| ******* | | |___| CLIPPERS
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Subject: WANTED: summer sublease in Washington, DC
From: kimgh@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Gene Kim)
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University
Lines: 9
I'll be spending this summer in Washington, DC working in Bowie, MD.
Does anyone have a summer sublease that they'd like to unload? I'll be
in the area from about May 7 - August 20.
Please mail me any pertinent info at (kimgh@mentor.cc.purdue.edu).
Thanks in advance,
Gene
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From: pmalenfa@kitkat.webo.dg.com (Paul Malenfant)
Subject: Optoisolator interfacing questions
Reply-To: pmalenfa@kitkat.webo.dg.com (Paul Malenfant)
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westboro, MA
Lines: 26
I am interfacing some simple circuits that run on 9V to my
cpu board which runs at 5-6V. The optoisolator is a 4N35.
On the led side, I put the signal I want through a 10k resistor
to the base of a 2N2222. On the transistor side, I tie my
cpu input line to the collector which has a pull-up resistor
of 47k.
It functions OK, but seems VERY slow. I can detect pulses
that occur at about 2kHz, but not much faster. Isn't the
rise/fall time of this device, something like 5uS? I should
be able to detect my target of 40kHz, but I can't get 16kHz.
This is done using wire-wrap and the wires going to the cpu
and to the test pin are about 8 inches long, but I'm not
doing anything high-speed.
In the Art of Electronics, it mentions tying the base of the
phototransistor to ground through a resistor to improve the
speed. Is that what I need to do? How do I calculate the
resistor value?
--
Paul Malenfant
pmalenfa @ kitkat.webo.dg.com (508-870-6460)
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From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 15
In article <C5nAvn.F3p@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes:
> In article <philC5n6D5.MK3@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
> #Tells you something about the fascist politics being practiced ....
>
> Ah, ending discrimination is now fascism.
>
> -Greg Hennessy, University of Virginia
When you force people to associate with others against their will,
yes.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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From: matthew@phantom.gatech.edu (Matthew DeLuca)
Subject: Re: Boom! Whoosh......
Organization: The Dorsai Grey Captains
Lines: 13
NNTP-Posting-Host: oit.gatech.edu
In article <1993Apr21.024423.29182@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wdwells@nyx.cs.du.edu (David "Fuzzy" Wells) writes:
>I hear <insert favorite rumor here> that it will supposedly coincide
>with the Atlanta Olympics.
Even worse, the city of Atlanta has a proposal before it to rent space on this
orbiting billboard. Considering the caliber of people running this city,
there's no telling what we're going to have leering down at us from orbit.
--
Matthew DeLuca
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!matthew
Internet: matthew@phantom.gatech.edu
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From: kelley@vet.vet.purdue.edu (Stephen Kelley)
Subject: Re: Should I be angry at this doctor?
Organization: Purdue University SVM
Distribution: na
Lines: 32
In article <1993Apr21.155714.1@stsci.edu> mryan@stsci.edu writes:
- Am I justified in being pissed off at this doctor?
-
- Last Saturday evening my 6 year old son cut his finger badly with a knife.
- I took him to a local "Urgent and General Care" clinic at 5:50 pm. The
[story deleted]
- be bothered. My son did get three stitches at the emergency room. I'm still
- trying to find out who is in charge of that clinic so I can write them a
- letter. We will certainly never set foot in that clinic again.
-
The people in charge already know what kind of 'care' they are
providing, and they don't give a rat's ass about your repeat business.
You are much more likely to do some good writing to local newspapers,
and broadcast news shows. If you do, keep the letter short and to the point
so they don't discard it out of hand, and emphasize exactly what you
are upset about.
It's possible that the local health department can help you complain to
someone official, but really, that 'clinic' exists for the sole purpose
of generating walk-in income through advertising, and *nothing* you can do
will change them -- all you can hope for is to help someone else avoid them.
I'm glad it sounds like your son did ok, anyway.
My opinion only, of course,
Steve
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From: bressler@iftccu.ca.boeing.com (Rick Bressler)
Subject: Re: Armed Citizen - April '93
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group
Lines: 22
/ iftccu:talk.politics.guns / kendall@lds.loral.com (Colin Kendall 6842) / 9:23 am Apr 13, 1993 /
In article <1993Apr5.164728.10847@dazixco.ingr.com> crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com writes:
>>
>>THE ARMED CITIZEN
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>Mere presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents
>>crime in many instances, as shown by news reports sent to The
>>Armed Citizen.
>
>Perhaps so, but note that of the accounts cited, there was only
>one in which no shot was fired. Of the other twelve, five
>described cases in which the assailant was wounded by a shot,
>and six described cases in which the assailant was killed by a
>shot.
Follow more than one months posting. As more than one reader has noted,
there IS some reporting bias here. I have seen months where these
numbers were reversed. I don't keep a constant tally, but it seems
this particular issue had more shots fired than any other I can remember.
Rick.
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From: jgfoot@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Josh A. Goldfoot)
Subject: Re: Organized Lobbying for Cryptography
Organization: Yale University
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Distribution: inet
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NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu
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Tarl Neustaedter (tarl@coyoacan.sw.stratus.com) wrote:
: It means that the EFF's public stance is complicated with issues irrelevant
: to the encryption issue per se. There may well be people who care about
: the encryption issue who don't care to associate themselves with the
: network erotica issue (or may even disagree with the EFF's position).
Perhaps these encryption-only types would defend the digitized porn if it
was posted encrypted?
These issues are not as seperable as you maintain.
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From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: About this 'Center for Policy Resea
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Lines: 85
In article <1483500350@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>It seems to me that many readers of this conference are interested
>who is behind the Center for Polict Research. I will oblige.
Trumpets, please.
>My name is Elias Davidsson, Icelandic citizen, born in Palestine. My
>mother was thrown from Germany because she belonged to the 'undesirables'
>(at that times this group was defined as 'Jews'). She was forced to go
>to Palestine due to many cynical factors.
"Forced to go to Palestine." How dreadful. Unlike other
undesirables/Jews, she wasn't forced to go into a gas chamber, forced
under a bulldozer, thrown into a river, forced into a "Medical
experiment" like a rat, forced to march until she dropped dead, burned
to nothingness in a crematorium. Your mother was "forced to go to
Palestine." You have our deepest sympathies.
>I have meanwhile settled in Iceland (30 years ago)
We are pleased to hear of your escape. At least you won't have to
suffer the same fate that your mother did.
>and met many people who were thrown out from
>my homeland, Palestine,
Your homeland, Palestine?
>because of the same reason (they belonged to
>the 'indesirables').
Should we assume that you are refering here to Jews who were kicked
out of their homes in Jerusalem during the Jordanian Occupation of
East Jerusalem? These are the same people who are now being called
thieves for re-claiming houses that they once owned and lived in and
never sold to anyone?
>These people include my neighbors in Jerusalem
>with the children of whom I played as child. Their crime: Theyare
>not Jews.
I have never heard of NOT being a Jew as a crime. Certainly in
Israel, there is no such crime. In some times and places BEING a Jew
is a crime, but NOT being a Jew??!!
>My conscience does not accept such injustice, period.
Our brains do not accept your logic, yet, either.
>My
>work for justice is done in the name of my principled opposition to racism
>and racial discrimination. Those who protest against such practices
>in Arab countries have my support - as long as their protest is based
>on a principled position, but not as a tactic to deflect criticism
>from Israel.
The way you've written this, you seem to accept criticism in the Arab
world UNLESS it deflects criticism from Israel, in which case, we have
to presume, you no longer support criticism of the Arab world.
>The struggle against discrimination and racism is universal.
Look who's taling about discrimination now!
>The Center for Policy Research is a name I gave to those activities
>undertaken under my guidance in different domains, and which command
>the support of many volunteers in Iceland. It is however not a formal
>institution and works with minimal funds.
Be careful. You are starting to sound like Barfling.
>Professionally I am music teacher and composer. I have published
>several pieces and my piano music is taught widely in Europe.
>
>I would hope that discussion about Israel/Palestine be conducted in
>a more civilized manner. Calling names is not helpful.
Good. Don't call yourself "ARF" or "the Center for Policy Research",
either.
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
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From: mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen)
Subject: Re: We knew it would happen
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Lines: 19
In talk.politics.guns, jagst18+@pitt.edu (Josh A Grossman) writes:
Well Josh I agree with you to some respect...less your spelling
errors. The Gov'mnt always must win! even if they kill every
man women and child....by GOD they must win at all costs......
This happens over and over and over in this country. Lets make
excuses, get the worthless press to cover up everything, let the
officials take the heat for top management stupidity etc...etc...
> I am sick with greif for the entire well being of this nation and the
> constitution in claims to protect.
>
> Later,
> Josh
>
>later Morty
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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 13
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>>>As for rape, surely there the burden of guilt is solely on the rapist?
>>Unless you force someone to live with the rapist against his will, in which
>>case part of the responsibility is yours.
>I'm sorry, but I can't accept that. Unless the rapist was hypnotized or
>something, I view him as solely responsible for his actions.
Not necessarily, especially if the rapist is known as such. For instance,
if you intentionally stick your finger into a loaded mousetrap and get
snapped, whose fault is it?
keith
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From: warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Subject: Re: Would "clipper" make a good cover for other encryption method?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Lines: 37
NNTP-Posting-Host: deathtongue.mit.edu
In-reply-to: strnlght@netcom.com's message of Tue, 20 Apr 1993 23:52:28 GMT
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
In article <strnlghtC5t3nH.Is1@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
In article <1993Apr20.032623.3046@eff.org> kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
>So, don't just think of replacements for clipper, also think of front
>ends.
This only makes sense if the government prohibits alternative non-escrowed
encryption schemes. Otherwise, why not just use the front end without
clipper?
David
David, they (== the gov't) have already said that they hope to DO THIS
in the long run...
- -derek
PGP 2 key available upon request on the key-server:
pgp-public-keys@toxicwaste.mit.edu
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Derek Atkins, MIT '93, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
Secretary, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
MIT Media Laboratory, Speech Research Group
warlord@MIT.EDU PP-ASEL N1NWH
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From: chaudhary-amar@yale.edu (Amar Chaudhary)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Signs That It's the Age of Aquarius on Pennsylvania Avenue
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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> Top Ten Signs That It's the Age of Aquarius on Pennsylvania Avenue
>
>
>10. Men in uniform are persona non grata in the home of our Commander in
> Chief.
>
>9. Algore's enviro-mentalism will make the Clean Air Act look like an
> industrial policy.
>
>8. Higher taxes are once again the prescription for all that ails America.
>
>7. Tax dodging is unpatriotic; draft dodging is a symbol of pride.
>
>6. Beaded curtains hang from the Oval Office windows.
>
>5. Socialism may be dead in the ex-Soviet Union but we are told to prepare
> for the nationalization of our health care resources. (These people
> must be inhaling something.)
>
>4. Not quite free love but eating Flowers is considered healthy.
>
>3. The feminazis have a President in the White House whether the rest of
> us realize it or not.
>
>2. Slick may be the first draft dodger to send American troops into
> combat.
>
>1. Slick may be unpopular with middle-class Americans, but he's a BIG HIT
> on campus with the professorial class.
>
>
>
>Copyright (c) Edward A. Ipser, Jr., 1993
>
Here's my own top ten response to Mr. Ipser's list
10. It's about time we have a President that might actually stand up to the
military. Our men and women in uniform must learn that the world does not
revolve around them, and that one of the things they're out there defending
is our right to be critical of them, even denounce them.
9. Let me explain something to you. Environmental policy and industrial
policy MUST go hand in hand. Our nation, and indeed, our planet cannot
afford to continue ignoring this as was done over the last twelve years.
Our industrial/environmental position has been downright SHAMEFUL! We
must have active government support of the key industries such as,
telecommunications, microelectronics, medical, biotech, and environmental
tech. Meanwhile weed out old, inneficient, high-polution, industries
that are better left to other nations. This will make us richer, help
produce new jobs, and help the environment. To give credit where credit
is due, I heard a lot of this in a speech by Senator John Kerry (D-MA)
tonite. In addition, it's time we get really, really serious about
issues like overpopulation, globabl warming, and ozone depletion. The
planet on which we live should be our utmost priority!
8. It just so happens that that it takes money to make this country work,
to provide the services that people need, and to help solve the problems
that need to be solved. Granted, some things can probably be done more
efficiently for less money, and should be. But some things are going to
cost more money and I'm sick and tired of hearing everyone whining about
taxes all the time. You want to live in my country, you pay your fair
share!
7. I can't believe what hypocrites people are when they ask people to give
up their lives for their country and then complain about taxes. If you're
willing to send me off to die for some stupid obsession with fighting an
enemy which at best doesn't affect us and at worst really should be our
friend, then you have no right to tell me you shouldn't pay taxes!
6. Hey, I think the beaded curtains add a lovely 60's-esque touch!
5. Look, Canada, Europe, and Japan manage to provide health care for their
citizens (and, yes, basic health IS a human right which people are
entitled to). If these nations aren't capitalist enough for you, then
I guess we've found something better than capitalism! There is nothing
sacred about the capitalist system, and if something, be it socialism
or anything else, works better, then I say let capitalism die.
4. Make love, not War!
3. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to be a male and a feminist
at the same time. To discriminate against or to deny equal opportunity
to a MAJORITY of the population is just plain wrong, and trying to force
them into some sort of tradition role is even worse. Women certainly
have as much to offer this world as men, and the day that gender
discrimination is finally broken it going to make all the revolutions of
the past few centuries seem like reform bills. I look forward to it.
2. See number 10.
1. HEY MAN, ACADAMIA RULES!!
-Amar Chaudhary
Peace, Land, at Matzoh!
"AC in DC in 2008!"
None of the opinions here necessary reflect the opinions of Yale University or
anyone or anything associated with it, except for me, of course :)
Please post reponses or send them to chaudhary-amar@cs.yale.edu
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From: irwin@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Irwin Arnstein)
Subject: Re: BMWMOA Controversy
Distribution: usa
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX
Keywords: BMWMOA Board, history of contretemps
Lines: 24
In article <1993Apr15.163043.12770@pb2esac.uucp> prahren@pb2esac.uucp (Peter Ahrens) writes:
>In article <1095@rider.UUCP> joe@rider.cactus.org writes:
>>>vech@Ra.MsState.Edu (Craig A. Vechorik) writes:
>>>...good ol boys that have been there too long.
>>
>> [...] while I agree with you that the current
>>board is garbage, voting you in would simply be trading one form of trash
>>for another...do the opponents of your selections get equal time...?
>
>Yo' Joe, why don't you post what you really think?
>
>If there are any rational BMWMOA folks left out there, may the rest of
>us please have a brief summary of the current state of affairs in your
>esteemed organization, together with an historical outline of how you
>got to the above contretemps?
>
Now you know why I am just a DOD member. I like bikes and clubs but
the politics and other b*llsh*t is a real turn-off.
--
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"Tuba" (Irwin) "I honk therefore I am" CompuTrac-Richardson,Tx
irwin@cmptrc.lonestar.org DoD #0826 (R75/6)
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From: arthur@hardy.u.washington.edu (howard roark)
Subject: PROBLEM WITH PRINTER AND EMM386.EXE!!
Article-I.D.: shelley.1qtbh0INN7nh
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu
I recently decided to try using emm386.exe for a memory manager and when I
tried to print to my printer in lpt1 from word55 I wouldn't work. It would
send the linefeeds for the top margin and then the printer READY light would
go off and stop working. I disabled emm386.exe and the problem went away.
I would like to continue using emm386.exe if possible. I would greatly
appreciate any comments or suggestions!! please send them to arthur@u.washingt,
arthur@u.washington.edu
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From: wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr)
Subject: Re: Law and Economics
Organization: Northeastern Law, Class of '93
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In-reply-to: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
[Procedural note: Ted directed followups to misc.legal only. While I
respect his right to do so, my own opinions are that (1) "Followup-To"
fields are mere suggestions, not mandatory commands and (2) this issue
is of sufficient (a) general political relevance and (b) civil liberties
interest to warrant keeping it active in t.p.m and a.s.c-l as well, at
least for this round.]
In article <1993Apr11.155955.23346@midway.uchicago.edu>,
thf2@midway.uchicago.edu said:
> Uh, no. That's not what happened in _Boomer_. What happened in
> _Boomer_ was that the judge didn't allow the plaintiffs to blackmail
> the cement plant by demanding a multi-million dollar plant to be shut
> down over $185,000 in damages, and required the plant to pay the
> plaintiffs the $185,000 to make them whole. The plant would never
> have been shut down-- the plaintiff's lawyers would have just
> negotiated a windfall settlement, because the plaintiffs would prefer
> an amount greater than $185K to having the plant shut down, while the
> plant would prefer any amount less than the value of the plant to have
> the plant continue in operation. Everyone's property rights were
> protected; the plaintiffs were made whole; unnecessary settlement
> costs were avoided.
Okay, now here's my interpretation of _Boomer_, based on the facts as
presented in the New York Court of Appeals<*> holding (_Boomer v.
<*>Note: The New York Court of Appeals is the highest court in New York
State. While the United States and 48 of the fifty states call their
highest court "Supreme Court," "Supreme Judicial Court" or "Supreme
Court of Appeals," Maryland and New York call theirs simply the
"Court of Appeals." To make matters worse, New York also calls its
_second-highest_ court the "Supreme Court, Appellate Division"...
Atlantic Cement Co._, 26 N.Y.2d 219, 257 N.E.2d 870 (1970)):
Oscar H. Boomer, et al., owned land near the Atlantic Cement company's
plant near Albany, N.Y. (The fact pattern gives no information as to
which came first, the plaintiff's acquisition of the land or he
defendant's start of production at their cement plant.) In the course
of its regular operations, the cement plant did injury to the
plaintiffs' property via dirt, smoke and vibrations emanating from the
plant. The plaintiffs sought injunctive relief -- that is, they asked
the court to order Atlantic Cement to stop damaging their property.
(Commentary: this seems entirely reasonable to me. Boomer at al owned
their property and, presumably, a right to quiet enjoyment of it.
Atlantic Cement's actions were depriving Boomer et al of that right.)
Instead of granting the plaintiffs' request for an injunction, the court
ordered them to accept the damage being done to their property, provided
that Atlantic Cement paid them $185,000 in compensatory damages. In
other words, the court granted Atlantic Cement Co., a private party, the
power and authority to _take_ the plaintiffs rights to quiet enjoyment
of their property by eminent domain. A taking by eminent domain is
always problematical even when it's done by the state; allowing a
private firm to do it is, in my opinion, totally wrong.
(Yes, I know, the _Boomer_ court didn't call it eminent domain. But if
it walks like eminent domain and swims like eminent domain and quacks
like eminent domain...)
Let me take issue with the way you've presented the case... you say that
"What happened in _Boomer_ was that the judge didn't allow the
plaintiffs to blackmail the cement plant by demanding a multi-million
dollar plant to be shut down over $185,000 in damages." Blackmail?
(Pulls out Black's Law Dictionary, Abridged 5th Edition....
"Blackmail: Unlawful demand of money or property under threat to
do bodily harm, to injure property, to accuse of crime, or to expose
disgraceful defects. This crime is commonly included under
extortion statutes.")
How do you define as "blackmail" one party's act of demanding the right
to set its own sale price for a unique piece of property which it owns
and which another party has expressed an interest in buying? Or of
demanding the right not to sell that property at any price? As I see
it, Boomer et al, having found themselves in the fortunate position of
owning something which Atlantic Cement had to purchase if it wanted to
stay in business, had every right in the world to set whatever price
they wanted. There isn't, or at least shouldn't be, any law that says
that you have to be a nice guy in your private business dealings.
You go on to say: "The plant would never have been shut down -- the
plaintiff's lawyers would have just negotiated a windfall settlement,
because the plaintiffs would prefer an amount greater than $185K to
having the plant shut down, while the plant would prefer any amount less
than the value of the plant to have the plant continue in operation."
If so, so what? Since when are the courts supposed to be in the
business of preventing parties from reaping windfall settlements from
other parties when those settlements arise from wrongful acts by those
other parties? If Atlantic Cement didn't want to have to face a choice
between paying a windfall settlement or going out of business, well,
shouldn't Atlantic Cement have thought of that before going _into_
business? (I note that as far as the facts show Boomer et al were _not_
the parties responsible for bringing about this situation -- that was
Atlantic Cement's own fault for choosing to build and operate the type
of plant they did where and when they did.)
And then you say: "Everyone's property rights were protected; the
plaintiffs were made whole; unnecessary settlement costs were avoided."
As above, I dispute your claim that the plaintiffs were "made whole."
They were, in fact, by court action deprived of their rights as owners
of property to choose to sell or not sell that property at a price
acceptable to them. And for that deprivation they were _not_ made
whole. And again I ask: Since when are the courts supposed to be in the
business of ensuring that "unnecessary" settlement costs are avoided?
(If so, I've been miseducated -- I always thought that the courts were
supposed to be in the business of ensuring that justice is done.)
> Is _Boomer_ really being taught as "infamous?" That's really sad if
> it is, because I fail to see how it's less than completely sensible.
> You should read the law and economics stuff first-hand instead of
> filtered through teachers who clearly don't like it, for whatever
> inexplicable reasons.
(1) _Boomer_ is not being taught as "infamous," at least not at my
school.
(Aside: Northeastern Law usually does a very good job of hiring for
their first-year, mandatory classes (such as Torts, where I first
encountered _Boomer_) instructors who, regardless of their personal
opinions, can and do teach the law neutrally. When the students get
into their second and third years, in which the students (a) can pick
and choose which courses to take (except for the mandatory Professional
Responsibility, of course) and (b) are presumed to be a bit more worldly
and self-confident, less likely to be consciously or sub-consciously
intimidated by Law School Professors and able to learn from openly
biased instructors rather than be indoctrinated by them, the instructors
tend to be more open in expressing their own opinions. This is
especially true of part-time instructors who, in real life, are
practicing attorneys or sitting judges... this can be _very_
educational, sometimes far more so than being taught by a somewhat
cloistered scholar. End of aside.)
I called it infamous because that's my opinion of it. For the reasons
I've stated above, I believe it to be a triumph of something that I can
only call "economic correctness" over justice.
(2) It is "completely sensible" only if you believe that the alleged
right of the owners of Atlantic Cement to stay in business and avoid
losing a lot of their own money due to their own wrongful act, and
the alleged right of several hundred Atlantic Cement employees to
not have their jobs disappear, should trump the rights of people who
own property which was damaged by Atlantic Cement's wrongful acts.
(And if you believe that it is correct for the courts (or any other
branch of government) to grant to private parties the right to take
other people's property by eminent domain.)
> You'd like Posner, Bill. He's a libertarian.
Really? I didn't know that... what, if anything, has he had to say
about cases like _Boomer_?
> Of course, he has too much of a paper trail to ever be nominated by a
> president, Democrat (won't like his antitrust stance) or Republican
> (won't like his support of gay marriage), and if bright law students
> "shiver" at what they don't understand, it's easy to imagine how the
> press will play it up as baby-selling. (I've seen Mike Godwin claim
> that Posner asserts that law and economics is applicable to everything
> and is the end-all and be-all, when Posner says precisely the
> opposite.) So it goes.
I've admitted that my understanding of the field generally referred to
as "law and economics" is weak. If it advocates the use of economical
analysis as one of many "tie-breaker" factors which courts may use to
help them reach decisions in cases in which the dispute, as measured by
the scale of "justice", is evenly balanced, fine. But as illustrated by
_Boomer_, it is _not_ fine when the courts start viewing the economics
of a case as being more important than the justice of a case.
-- William December Starr <wdstarr@athena.mit.edu>
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From: ardie@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ardie Mack)
Subject: Re: does dos6 defragment??
Article-I.D.: ux1.ardie.272.734097933
Organization: Department of Plant Pathology
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr6.040254.8443@cs.brown.edu> ksl@engin1.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kiseok Lee ) writes:
>From: ksl@engin1.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kiseok Lee )
>Subject: Re: does dos6 defragment??
>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 04:02:54 GMT
>In article <C51H9M.46p@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rhc52134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard) writes:
>|> Geoffrey S. Elbo writes:
>|>
>|> >Yes, and it is the fastest defrag I've ever watched. It did a 170MB
>|> >hard disk in 20 minutes.
>|>
>|> I found the MS defrag looks very much like Norton Speedisk.
>|> Is it just a strip-down version of the later?
>|>
>|> I have both Norton Speedisk and Backup, so I was wondering
>|> if I need to install MS Backup?
>|>
>|> Richard
>|>
>
>Yes, defragger IS come from Norton.
>If you have Norton Utility, don't bother.
Don't bother if you have CPBackup or Fastback. They all offer options
not available in the stripped-down MS version (FROM CPS!). Examples - no
proprietary format (to save space), probably no direct DMA access, and no
tape drive!
You NEED MS Defrag if you use doublespace to work on the compressed
volume.
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From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (The Beav)
Subject: DoD Confessional
Nntp-Posting-Host: bmerh824
Reply-To: MBEAVING@BNR.CA
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Lines: 31
I can't help myself.
I've tried to be rational,
to look the other way,
but everytime it happens,
its uncontrollable.
I hate pre'80s motorcycles.
At first I thought it was a phase. I though I would
get used to them. It didn't happen. I tried gazing
at CB750s and 900 customs, but each time I sadistically
pictured them being hurled off of large precipice
(I also picture a swarm of german tourists cheering and
taking holiday snaps, but I can't figure that part out).
What am I to do? Everytime I read a .sig containing
some spoked wheel wonder, I shudder and feel pity that
the poor soul has suffered enough. I imagine the owner
scrapping out his (or her) living in a discarded Maytag
refridgerator box, tucked in next to their CX500.
I'm hoping for some deliverance. I had in the past loathed
the Milwaukee machine, but I can actually begin to understand
some of the preaching. There must be hope.
--
===================================================
= The Beav |Mike Beavington| Dod:9733 =
= V65Sabre mbeaving@bnr.ca =
= My employer has no idea what I'm talking about! =
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From: zmola@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Carl Zmola)
Subject: Re: Workspace Managers for Win 3.1 - a small review
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Lines: 32
cah@tactix.rain.com (Chris Huey) writes:
>Jamie Scuglia (jamie@zikzak.apana.org.au) wrote:
>: Thanks to all those people who recommended Workspace managers for
>: Windows 3.1. I found 3 shareware Workspace Managers, from Australia's
>: MS-WINDOWS archive (monu6.cc.monash.edu.au), which mirrors some
>: sites in the U.S. The three I found were:
>:
>: 1. WORKSPACES 1.10 (wspace.zip)
>[ review deleted ]
>: 2. WORKSHIFT 1.6 (wrksft16.zip)
>[ review deleted ]
>: 3. BIGDESK 2.30 and BACKMENU (backdesk.zip)
>[ review deleted ]
>I really appreciate this information. However, given that I don't have
>direct Internet access - which means I don't have Archie access - I must
>resort to using FTPMAIL. This means that I need the site name and the
>directory where these workspace managers are located.
backdesk.zip is on CICA, but I'm not sure of the whole directory.
Another to throw into the running is topdesk. It is alsow on CICA, but
I'm not sure where. It is more complicated then backdesk, but I've found
it to be more stable and more usefull. I recomend it to people who
have already used a virtual desktop. Oh yeh, It's free.
Copyright Microsoft and Sanford Staab.
Carl
zmola@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu
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From: kpeterso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kirk Peterson)
Subject: Hewlett Packard DeskJet 500 inkjet printer for sale...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Lines: 43
For Sale ...:
Hewlett Packard DeskJet 500 inkjet printer.
o Perfect condition both internally and externally
o Comes with two FULL ink cartridges
o Less than six months old
o Comes with all original packaging, manuals, cables
and software
This is truly an excellent printer and is the low-cost
alternative to a laser printer. It prints with the
quality of a laser printer, but for a fraction of both
the inital cost and he long term cost (that is,
replacement of ink cartridges as opposed to replacement
of toner). The printer prints at a maximum of 300*300
(D)ots (P)er (I)nch (D.P.I.) on many different types
and sizes of paper, including envelopes and
transperencies. Printer prints in both landscape and
portrait modes. Printer can accept up to two
cartridges giving it things like more memory or
additional fonts. Printer works excellently with
Windows and DOS and brings TrueType to its full
potential.
I originally purchased the printer for $375.00. Make me
an offer, but I would prefer to stay in the $300.00
range. I will pay the shipping to anywhere in the
continental U.S.A.
If you are interested, please either leave me email or
call Kirk Peterson at (303) 494-7951 anytime.
Thanks!
P.S. The printer will work with any computer that
can accept a standard parallel or serial
connection. (That is, IBM, Amiga, etc.)
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From: etjet@levels.unisa.edu.au
Subject: Aussie needs info on USA car shows/swap meets
Reply-To: johnt@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au
Organization: University of South Australia
Lines: 54
Hi from Australia,
I am a car enthusiast in Australia.
I am particularly interested in American Muscle cars of the
1960s and 1970s. ALL MAKES: AMC, Ford, Chrysler/Mopar, GM.
I will be in the USA for 6 weeks from May 2nd to -June 14 1993.
Chicago: Sun May 2 -Thursday May 6
Denver: Friday May 7 - Sunday May 9
Austin, Texas: Monday May 10- Friday May 21
Oklahoma City: Friday May 21 - Monday May 24
Anaheim, California: Tuesday May 25-Thursday May 27
Las Vegas, Nevada: Friday May 28- Sunday May 30
Grand Canion, Monday May 31 - Tuesday June 1
Las Angeles, San Diego and vicinity: Wednesday June 3-Sunday June 6 June
South Lake Tahoe, Cal: Sunday June 6 - Wednesday June 9
Reno: Thursday June 10
San Fransisco: Thursday June 10 - Sunday June 13
I was wondering if anyone could send me any information of
car shows, swap meets, drag meets, model car shows etc. during this period.
Can anybody tell me when the Pomona Swap meet is on this year?
Also, any places to visit (eg. car museums, private collections,
your collection? etc. Any bit of information is appreciated!
I am also interested in finding some model cars (scale Models).
I am intersted in 1968-1974 AMC cars. Of particular interest is:
1968-1970 AMX
1968-1974 Javelin
1969 SCRAMBLER
1970 Rebel Machine
and others
If you have any kits, plastics, diecast etc and are interested in selling them,
tell me, I will be interested.
I can also send/bring you models of Australian High performance cars if
you are interested.
Please reply by email to: johnt@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au
Thanks,
John Tsimbinos
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From: bosch@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Gerhard Bosch)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Split
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
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Distribution: world
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In article <NERONE.93Apr20085951@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu>, nerone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Nerone) writes:
|> In article <1quvdoINN3e7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, tdawson@engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw) writes:
|>
|> CH> Concerning the proposed newsgroup split, I personally am not in
|> CH> favor of doing this. I learn an awful lot about all aspects of
|> CH> graphics by reading this group, from code to hardware to
|> CH> algorithms. I just think making 5 different groups out of this
|> CH> is a wate, and will only result in a few posts a week per group.
|> CH> I kind of like the convenience of having one big forum for
|> CH> discussing all aspects of graphics. Anyone else feel this way?
|> CH> Just curious.
|>
|> I must agree. There is a dizzying number of c.s.amiga.* newsgroups
|> already. In addition, there are very few issues which fall cleanly
|> into one of these categories.
|>
|> Also, it is readily observable that the current spectrum of amiga
|> groups is already plagued with mega-crossposting; thus the group-split
|> would not, in all likelihood, bring about a more structured
|> environment.
|>
|> --
|> /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
|> / Michael Nerone \"I shall do so with my customary lack of tact; and\
|> / Internet Address: \since you have asked for this, you will be obliged\
|> /nerone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu\to pardon it."-Sagredo, fictional char of Galileo.\
Hi,
It might be nice to know, what's possible on different hard ware platforms.
But usually the hard ware is fixed ( in my case either Unix or DOS- PC ).
So I'm not much interested in Amiga news.
In the case of Software, I won't get any comercial software mentioned in this
newgroup to run on a Unix- platform, so I'm not interested in this information.
I would suggest to split the group. I don't see the problem of cross-posting.
Then you need to read just 2 newgroups with half the size.
BUT WHAT WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE A FAQ. THIS WOULD REDUCE THE
TRAFFIC A LOT.
Sincerely, Gerhard
--
I'm writing this as a privat person, not reflecting any opinions of the Inst.
of Hydromechanics, the University of Karlsruhe, the Land Baden-Wuerttemberg,
the Federal Republic of Germany and the European Community. The address and
phone number below are just to get in touch with me. Everything I'm saying,
writing and typing is always wrong ! (Statement necessary to avoid law suits)
=============================================================================
- Dipl.-Ing. Gerhard Bosch M.Sc. voice:(0721) - 608 3118 -
- Institute for Hydromechanic FAX:(0721) - 608 4290 -
- University of Karlsruhe, Kaiserstrasse 12, 7500-Karlsruhe, Germany -
- Internet: bosch@ifh-hp2.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de -
- Bitnet: nd07@DKAUNI2.BITNET -
=============================================================================
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From: artmel@well.sf.ca.us (Arthur Melnick)
Subject: Big Brother (Clipper) chip
Summary: Some thoughts on the use of the Big Brother (Clipper) chip
Keywords: clipper
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There are some issues which come to mind when one considers
the law enforcement aspects of the use of the Big Brother
(Clipper) chip.
The drug dealers and terrorists aren't going to let
themselves be caught by using this type of encryption. In 1985
the New York Times reported that government investigators broke
up a narcotics ring that was operating highly sophisticated
equipment capable of allowing the leaders of the ring to
eavesdrop on the law-enforcement agents who were trying to arrest
them.
A Mr. Deely, an NSA official, said "There are a lot of
medium-sized countries that would have been proud to have the
signals intelligence operation of this group."
For every John Gotti there are probably many more people who
have the sophistication to know what the risks of unsecure
communications are. The press given to the Big Brother chip will
only increase their numbers.
Even if there is some benefit to law-enforcement through the
use of Big Brother, it must be weighed against the constitutional
and civil liberties questions involved.
For example, in some areas of the world torture is used as
an investigative tool by the local "law-enforcement" people. I
suspect it is an effective means of obtaining information and
shortening many investigations. It probably also helps keep the
conviction rate high.
The fact that the torture tool is not used in this country
(even with a court order obtained by showing "probable cause") is
because we have rightly balanced the questions of expediency and
what is ethically and morally right.
I think that the same question of expediency versus morality
should come into play when considering the use of Big Brother. I
vote for morality.
I am quite disturbed by what I interpret as a veiled threat
to prohibit the use of all encryption if this Big Brother chip is
not put into wide spread use. After a quick reading of the White
House press release I came away with that impression.
To most of the American public, the word "hacker" has
rightly or wrongly come to mean "high tech adolescent vandal".
It has struck me that most of the people posting to sci.crypt
regarding this issue are intelligent, thoughtful individuals who
have genuine concerns about the privacy and constitutional issues
surrounding Big Brother. I hope that the use of Big Brother does
not become mandatory and other encryption become illegal. I
would hate to see this become some kind of high tech Volstead
Act.
The high speed digital communications revolution is coming
at us with the speed of an SST. The times they are a changing,
and just as IBM is learning that they can't do business the same
way they have done it for the past 40 years, maybe NSA should
evaluate another approach.
EFF, who have correctly questioned the cryptographic
strength of Big Brother, may need to send a stronger message out
regarding the constitutional issues involved.
Al Gore may want to think this one through a little more.
And as for Dorothy Elizabeth Robling Denning: En quoi cela
vous concerne, cheri?
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Subject: Re: Oops! Oh no!
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
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JACK ROGERS WATERS (jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <1ppejb$3h0@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
: >
: >Well, at least I damaged my own bike. If I had done it to someone else's
: >property I'd *really* feel like a jerk. As it is I just feel stupid.
: >
: I don't mean to be a cynic but . . . . you may want to reconsider
: having the body work done right away. The same type of thing
: may happen again. Wait till you get used to the bike, etc.
Well, I waited a whole week to take the pastic bits off and take them
to the body shop. Is that long enough :-)
--
*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
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From: James_Jim_Frazier@cup.portal.com
Subject: MO driver compatibility?
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
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It's my understanding that, when you format a magneto-optical disc, (1) the
formatting software installs a driver on the disc, (2) if you insert the
disc in a different drive, then this driver is loaded into the computer's
memory and then controls the drive, and (3) if this driver is incompatible
with the drive, then the disc can not be mounted and/or properly read/written
Is that correct?
Thanks,
Jim Frazier
73447.3113@compuserve.com
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From: Alexander Samuel McDiarmid <am2o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Centris 610 Video Problem - I'm having it also!
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Distribution: comp
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In-Reply-To: <PUSH.93Apr16221745@media-lab.media.mit.edu>
From: push@media.mit.edu (Pushpinder Singh)
Subject: re: Centris 610 Video Problem - I'm having it also!
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1993 03:17:45 GMT
> When the computer is set for 256 colors and certain operations are done,
> particularly vertical scrolling through a window, horizontal white lines
> appear on the monitor (which generally but not always spare open
> windows). These lines accummulate as the operation is continued. If a
> window is moved over the involved area of the screen and then moved away
> the line disappear from that area of the screen. This problem is not
> observed if the monitor is configured for 16 colors or a 14 inch Apple
> monitor with 256 colors is used.
>
> I suspect a bad video RAM chip but cannot be certain. The problem has
> been apparent since day 1 but has gotten worse.
I'm having exactly the same problem. Again, it's fine when I switch to 16
colors or a smaller monitor. My configuration is:
Model: Centris 610 with 4 MB/80 HD, 512 VRAM, no cards
Monitor: MAG MX15F with 16" monitor adaptor (for resolution of 832*624)
I just discovered the problem a little while ago after plugging in my
new MAG monitor. It seems to appear either when scrolling through a
window or when using Alpha or Word and I enter <return>.
My guess is bad VRAMs as well. I really hope it isn't a design flaw. Is
anyone at Apple listening?
Pushpinder Singh
push@media.mit.edu
***********************************
Try finding an init called Basic color monitor. This should clear
up some probs with Centris 610's and vga type monitors. I know it
exists, somewhere I have a binhexed copy, but I don't know where and
never got around to installing it. I have this problem on my sony 1604.
-A.
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From: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za (Steve Hayes)
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Organization: University of South Africa
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In article <Apr.16.23.18.07.1993.1879@geneva.rutgers.edu> phs431d@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>But what if the geologists are wrong and these people are warning of a
>non-existent danger? Analogies can only push an argument so far (on both
>sides). Both Melinda's and yours assume the premises used to set up your
>respective analogies are true and thus the correct conclusion will arise.
>
>The important point to note is the different directions both sides come from.
>Christians believe they know the TRUTH and thus believe they have the right
>(and duty) to tell the TRUTH to all.
>
>Christians can get offended if others do not believe (what is self-evidently
>to them) the TRUTH. Non-christians do not believe this is the TRUTH and get
>offended at them because they (christians) claim to know the TRUTH.
The analogy does not depend on the premisses being true, because the
question under discussion is not truth but arrogance.
A similar analogy might be a medical doctor who believes that a blood
transfusion is necessary to save the life of a child whose parents are
Jehovah's Witnesses and so have conscientious objections to blood
transfusion. The doctor's efforts to persuade them to agree to a blood
transfusion could be perceived to be arrogant in precisely the same way as
Christians could be perceived to be arrogant.
The truth or otherwise of the belief that a blood transfusion is necessary
to save the life of the child is irrelevant here. What matters is that the
doctor BELIEVES it to be true, and could be seen to be trying to foce his
beliefs on the parents, and this could well be perceived as arrogance.
============================================================
Steve Hayes, Department of Missiology & Editorial Department
Univ. of South Africa, P.O. Box 392, Pretoria, 0001 South Africa
Internet: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za Fidonet: 5:7101/20
steve.hayes@p5.f22.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
FAQ: Missiology is the study of Christian mission and is part of
the Faculty of Theology at Unisa
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From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
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It's truly unfortunate that we don't have the Japanese tradition of
Hari-Kari for public officials to salvage some tatters of honor after
they commit offenses against humanity like were perpetrated in Waco,
Texas today.
--
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
I'm beginning to look forward to reaching the %100 allocation of taxes
to pay for the interest on the national debt. At that point the
federal government will be will go out of business for lack of funds.
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From: ernie@woody.apana.org.au (Ernie Elu)
Subject: MGR NAPLPS & GUI BBS Frontends
Organization: Woody - Public Access Linux - Melbourne
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Hi all,
I am looking into methods I can use to turn my Linux based BBS into a full color
Graphical BBS that supports PC, Mac, Linux, and Amiga callers.
Originally I was inspired by the NAPLPS graphics standard (a summary of
which hit this group about 2 weeks ago).
Following up on software availability of NAPLPS supporting software I find
that most terminal programs are commercial the only resonable shareware one being
PP3 which runs soley on MSDOS machines leaving Mac and Amiga users to buy full
commercial software if they want to try out the BBS (I know I wouldn't)
Next most interesting possibility is to port MGR to PC, Mac, Amiga. I know there
is an old version of a Mac port on bellcore.com that doesn't work under System 7
But I can't seem to find the source anywhere to see if I can patch it.
Is there a color version of MGR for Linux?
I know there was an alpha version of the libs out last year but I misplaced it.
Does anyone on this group know if MGR as been ported to PC or Amiga ?
I can't seem to send a message to the MGR channel without it bouncing.
Does anyone have any other suggestions for a Linux based GUI BBS ?
Thanks in advan
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From: rsnyder@nyx.cs.du.edu (russ snyder)
Subject: Re: Performa 450 internal modem?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
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In article <lsrk94INNr2s@news.bbn.com> ado@quince.bbn.com (Buz Owen) writes:
>I hear that the Performa 450 is really an LCIII with an internal modem. Can
>the modem part be obtained and installed in an LCIII? It would be nice if it
>were actually a powerbook internal modem, but that might be too much to hope
>for.
I believe you were misinformed. I checked out one of the P450's at Sears
last week. The modem is external 2400bps data with send-only FAX.
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From: healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy)
Subject: Re: free moral agency
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Organization: Walla Walla College
Distribution: na
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In article <11810@vice.ICO.TEK.COM> bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) writes:
>From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine)
>Subject: Re: free moral agency
>Date: 14 Apr 93 21:41:31 GMT
>In article <healta.133.734810202@saturn.wwc.edu> healta@saturn.wwc.edu (TAMMY R HEALY) writes:
>>>
>>In the Old testement, Satan is RARELY mentioned, if at all.
>
>
> Huh? Doesn't the SDA Bible contain the book of Job?
>
>>This is why there is suffering in the world, we are caught inthe crossfire.
>>and sometimes, innocents as well as teh guilty get hurt.
>>That's my opinion and I hope I cleared up a few things.
>>
>
> Seems like your omnipotent and omniscient god has "got some
> 'splainin' to do" then. Or did he just create Satan for shits and
> giggles?
>
>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>
>Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM
>
>They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away,
>and sank Manhattan out at sea.
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I didn't say it NEVER mentioned Satan, I said it RARELY, if at all. Please
excuse me for my lack of perfect memory or omnipotence.
Tammy
P.S I'm soory if I sound cranky. I apoplogize now before anyone's feelings
get hurt.
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From: rivero@sol.cie.unizar.es
Subject: Video IO ideas?
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Lines: 7
Have anyone some idea about how to build a cheap, low
resolution (or high :-) video projector...
(example: a LCD and an slide projector)
.
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From: donath@math.uiowa.edu (Matt Donath)
Subject: US Robotics 14.4 modem
Originator: donath@oak.math.uiowa.edu
Nntp-Posting-Host: oak.math.uiowa.edu
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Lines: 5
Reply to haljordan@delphi.com or call 708 674-2603:
U.S. Robotics 16.8 Dual standard, V.32 bis, 14.4k baud,
16.8 hst. Price: $449.
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From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Blues into playoffs, beat TB 6-5
Keywords: Blues, Shanahan, Joseph, Hull, Minnesota, TB
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Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
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By Dave Luecking Of The Post-Dispatch Staff
At 9:11 Thursday night, the scoreboard watchers at The Arena began to cheer.
Their cheer quickly turned into a roar, and finally, the sellout crowd of
17,816 rose as one to rock the old barn at 5700 Oakland Avenue in a salute to
the playoff-bound Blues.
The scoreboard had just flashed the news from Detroit -- Red Wings 5, Stars 3.
With the North Stars' loss, the Blues officially clinched fourth place and the
final playoff spot in the Norris Division. Good thing, because the Blues quit
playing.
They held a 5-1 lead over Tampa Bay when the Detroit-Minnesota final appeared
with 3 minutes 52 remaining in the second period. They promptly went to sleep
and barely held on for a 6-5 victory that nearly slipped away at the buzzer.
Tampa's Bob Beers tipped in a pass from Shawn Chambers, but officiating
supervisor John D'Amico and video goal judge Rich Schweigler ruled that the
shot had gone into the net after time had expired.
``I'm glad I didn't see it go in at the end," Blues coach Bob Berry said.
If the goal had counted, he'd have been more upset than he was by the Blues'
disappearance in the final 24 minutes. Holding on for the victory and making
the playoffs tempered Berry's anger.
``It wasn't pretty at the end," he said. ``We played 36, 37 great minutes, as
good as we played all year. It slipped away at the end. It shouldn't have, but
it did."
Still, the Blues won, prompting another ovation from the crowd at game's end.
Despite their shoddy effort in the third period and all the turmoil this
season, the Blues still made the playoffs. They'll meet the Chicago Blackhawks
in a best-of-seven Norris Division semifinal, beginning at noon Sunday at
Chicago Stadium.
The Blues finished the regular-season with a record of 37-36-11 for 85 points,
their fourth consecutive plus-.500 season. Minnesota finished three points
behind in fifth place, with a record of 36-38- 10 for 82 points. Tampa Bay,
which played spoiler last week by tying the Blues 2-2 at Tampa, ended its
first season with a record of 23-54-7 for 53 points.
The poor finish cast an unnecessary shadow over what should have been a joyous
Blues locker room. Instead, the mood was one of relief and some disappointment.
``It's a shame we let down," said Kevin Miller, one of three Blues to score
two goals. Brendan Shanahan and Bob Bassen were the others.
``There was no need for a letdown. If we'd have kept working, it would have
ended 6-2 and everyone would be happy."
Instead, a lot of players were happy just to make the playoffs.
``We won, and that's all that matters," said Brett Hull, scoreless and minus-3
for the night. ``Once we got up 4-0, it was really tough to play."
Some players didn't have a problem.
``Just because the score was announced, our line didn't quit," said Rich
Sutter, who played with Bassen and Miller. ``We still had a game to play. You
can't allow five goals like we did, that's not right.
``It was disappointing to see what was going on."
Bassen was almost frantic on the bench because of the Blues' effort. Somehow,
he missed the announcement of Minnesota's loss.
``I didn't know it was final," he said. ``I was kind of looking around on the
bench. I didn't realize it was a final for some reason. We're in the playoffs,
and that's great, but it's a little disappointing to play like we did at the
end."
The letdown was precisely the reason that Berry had instructed the scoreboard
operators to keep the Minnesota-Detroit score off of the board. The score
showed 0-0 until it first popped up with Detroit leading 4-2 in the third
period. The Blues already led 4-0 at the time.
``I told them I didn't want to see the score, I didn't want to know the score,"
Berry said. ``I felt we had to win the game, and that's the approach we took."
If Minnesota took a lead, Berry feared, the pressure of having to win might
bother the Blues. If Detroit led, he worried, the Blues might quit.
Until the announcement, the Blues played splendidly. Shanahan got the crowd
going at 10:44 of the first period, scoring his 50th of the season. Then,
Miller and Bassen took charge late in the period.
With the teams playing four on four, Miller broke in on left wing, deked
defenseman Roman Hamrlik and beat former Blues goalie Pat Jablonski with the
rebound of his own shot with 21.6 seconds remaining in the period.
Then, just 10.5 seconds later, Bassen rifled a long slap shot past Jablonski
after defenseman Rick Zombo intercepted a Tampa pass in the neutral zone.
Bassen made it 4-0 just 14 seconds into the second period, scoring on the
rebound of Bret Hedican's shot. The goal gave him his first two-goal game of
the season and reminded him of a special friend.
Last year, Bassen befriended young Oliver Mulvihill, who died of a rare form
of cancer at age 6 on Feb. 23.
``I was thinking of my buddy Oliver," Bassen said. ``He's in heaven now, and
I know he was watching. I know he's happy."
Miller increased the Blues lead to 5-0 on a break-away goal set up by Zombo
at 11:09. Then, Steve Maltais broke Curtis Joseph's shutout just 18 seconds
later, making it 5-1.
Less than a minute after the North Stars' final was announced, Tim Bergland
scored and cut the lead to 5-2. But Shanahan scored his 51st, converting a pass
from Nelson Emerson with 21.3 seconds remaining in the second period.
Then, it was all Lightning. Adam Creighton scored 40 seconds into the third
period, prompting Berry to rest the overworked Joseph. Guy Hebert allowed goals
to Shawn Chambers and Danton Cole in a span of 1:21 midway through the third
period.
The goals by Chambers and Cole made Shanahan's second goal stand up as the
winner. ``We were in there," Shanahan said. ``The game was over. We were in."
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From: bradfrd2@ncar.ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
Subject: Astro/Space Frequently Seen Acronyms
Supersedes: <space/acronyms_731394007@GZA.COM>
Organization: LifeForms Unlimited, Cephalopods
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Expires: 19 May 1993 04:00:04 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: pad-thai.aktis.com
Keywords: long space astro tla acronyms
X-Last-Updated: 1992/12/07
Archive-name: space/acronyms
Edition: 8
Acronym List for sci.astro, sci.space, and sci.space.shuttle:
Edition 8, 1992 Dec 7
Last posted: 1992 Aug 27
This list is offered as a reference for translating commonly appearing
acronyms in the space-related newsgroups. If I forgot or botched your
favorite acronym, please let me know! Also, if there's an acronym *not*
on this list that confuses you, drop me a line, and if I can figure
it out, I'll add it to the list.
Note that this is intended to be a reference for *frequently seen*
acronyms, and is most emphatically *not* encyclopedic. If I incorporated
every acronym I ever saw, I'd soon run out of disk space! :-)
The list will be posted at regular intervals, every 30 days. All
comments regarding it are welcome; I'm reachable as bradfrd2@ncar.ucar.edu.
Note that this just tells what the acronyms stand for -- you're on your
own for figuring out what they *mean*! Note also that the total number of
acronyms in use far exceeds what I can list; special-purpose acronyms that
are essentially always explained as they're introduced are omitted.
Further, some acronyms stand for more than one thing; as of Edition 3 of
the list, these acronyms appear on multiple lines, unless they're simply
different ways of referring to the same thing.
Thanks to everybody who's sent suggestions since the first version of
the list, and especially to Garrett A. Wollman (wollman@griffin.uvm.edu),
who is maintaining an independent list, somewhat more verbose in
character than mine, and to Daniel Fischer (dfi@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de),
who is maintaining a truly HUGE list (535 at last count) of acronyms and
terms, mostly in German (which I read, fortunately).
Special thanks this time to Ken Hollis at NASA, who sent me a copy of NASA
Reference Publication 1059 Revised: _Space Transportation System and
Associated Payloads: Glossary, Acronyms, and Abbreviations_, a truly
mammoth tome -- almost 300 pages of TLAs.
Special Bonus! At the end of this posting, you will find a perl program
written by none other than Larry Wall, whose purpose is to scramble the
acronym list in an entertaining fashion. Thanks, Larry!
A&A: Astronomy and Astrophysics
AAO: Anglo-Australian Observatory
AAS: American Astronomical Society
AAS: American Astronautical Society
AAVSO: American Association of Variable Star Observers
ACE: Advanced Composition Explorer
ACRV: Assured Crew Return Vehicle (or) Astronaut Crew Rescue Vehicle
ADFRF: Ames-Dryden Flight Research Facility (was DFRF) (NASA)
AGN: Active Galactic Nucleus
AGU: American Geophysical Union
AIAA: American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics
AIPS: Astronomical Image Processing System
AJ: Astronomical Journal
ALEXIS: Array of Low Energy X-ray Imaging Sensors
ALPO: Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers
ALS: Advanced Launch System
ANSI: American National Standards Institute
AOA: Abort Once Around (Shuttle abort plan)
AOCS: Attitude and Orbit Control System
Ap.J: Astrophysical Journal
APM: Attached Pressurized Module (a.k.a. Columbus)
APU: Auxiliary Power Unit
ARC: Ames Research Center (NASA)
ARTEMIS: Advanced Relay TEchnology MISsion
ASA: Astronomical Society of the Atlantic
ASI: Agenzia Spaziale Italiano
ASRM: Advanced Solid Rocket Motor
ATDRS: Advanced Tracking and Data Relay Satellite
ATLAS: Atmospheric Laboratory for Applications and Science
ATM: Amateur Telescope Maker
ATO: Abort To Orbit (Shuttle abort plan)
AU: Astronomical Unit
AURA: Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy
AW&ST: Aviation Week and Space Technology (a.k.a. AvLeak)
AXAF: Advanced X-ray Astrophysics Facility
BATSE: Burst And Transient Source Experiment (on CGRO)
BBXRT: Broad-Band X-Ray Telescope (ASTRO package)
BEM: Bug-Eyed Monster
BH: Black Hole
BIMA: Berkeley Illinois Maryland Array
BNSC: British National Space Centre
BTW: By The Way
C&T: Communications & Tracking
CCAFS: Cape Canaveral Air Force Station
CCD: Charge-Coupled Device
CCDS: Centers for the Commercial Development of Space
CD-ROM: Compact Disk Read-Only Memory
CFA: Center For Astrophysics
CFC: ChloroFluoroCarbon
CFF: Columbus Free Flyer
CFHT: Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope
CGRO: (Arthur Holley) Compton Gamma Ray Observatory (was GRO)
CHARA: Center for High Angular Resolution Astronomy
CIRRIS: Cryogenic InfraRed Radiance Instrument for Shuttle
CIT: Circumstellar Imaging Telescope
CM: Command Module (Apollo spacecraft)
CMCC: Central Mission Control Centre (ESA)
CNES: Centre National d'Etude Spatiales
CNO: Carbon-Nitrogen-Oxygen
CNSR: Comet Nucleus Sample Return
COBE: COsmic Background Explorer
COMPTEL: COMPton TELescope (on CGRO)
COSTAR: Corrective Optics Space Telescope Axial Replacement
CRAF: Comet Rendezvous / Asteroid Flyby
CRRES: Combined Release / Radiation Effects Satellite
CSM: Command and Service Module (Apollo spacecraft)
CSTC: Consolidated Satellite Test Center (USAF)
CTIO: Cerro Tololo Interamerican Observatory
DCX: Delta Clipper eXperimental
DDCU: DC-to-DC Converter Unit
DFRF: Dryden Flight Research Facility (now ADFRF)
DMSP: Defense Meteorological Satellite Program
DOD: Department Of Defense (sometimes DoD)
DOE: Department Of Energy
DOT: Department Of Transportation
DSCS: Defense Satellite Communications System
DSN: Deep Space Network
DSP: Defense Support Program (USAF/NRO)
EAFB: Edwards Air Force Base
ECS: Environmental Control System
EDO: Extended Duration Orbiter
EGRET: Energetic Gamma Ray Experiment Telescope (on CGRO)
EJASA: Electronic Journal of the Astronomical Society of the Atlantic
ELV: Expendable Launch Vehicle
EMU: Extravehicular Mobility Unit
EOS: Earth Observing System
ERS: Earth Resources Satellite (as in ERS-1)
ESA: European Space Agency
ESO: European Southern Observatory
ET: (Shuttle) External Tank
ETLA: Extended Three Letter Acronym
ETR: Eastern Test Range
EUV: Extreme UltraViolet
EUVE: Extreme UltraViolet Explorer
EVA: ExtraVehicular Activity
FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions
FAST: Fast Auroral SnapshoT explorer
FFT: Fast Fourier Transform
FGS: Fine Guidance Sensors (on HST)
FHST: Fixed Head Star Trackers (on HST)
FIR: Far InfraRed
FITS: Flexible Image Transport System
FOC: Faint Object Camera (on HST)
FOS: Faint Object Spectrograph (on HST)
FRR: Flight-Readiness Review
FTP: File Transfer Protocol
FTS: Flight Telerobotic Servicer
FUSE: Far Ultraviolet Spectroscopic Explorer
FWHM: Full Width at Half Maximum
FYI: For Your Information
GAS: Get-Away Special
GBT: Green Bank Telescope
GCVS: General Catalog of Variable Stars
GEM: Giotto Extended Mission
GEO: Geosynchronous Earth Orbit
GDS: Great Dark Spot
GHRS: Goddard High Resolution Spectrograph (on HST)
GIF: Graphics Interchange Format
GLOMR: Global Low-Orbiting Message Relay
GMC: Giant Molecular Cloud
GMRT: Giant Meter-wave Radio Telescope
GMT: Greenwich Mean Time (also called UT)
GOES: Geostationary Orbiting Environmental Satellite
GOX: Gaseous OXygen
GPC: General Purpose Computer
GPS: Global Positioning System
GRO: Gamma Ray Observatory (now CGRO)
GRS: Gamma Ray Spectrometer (on Mars Observer)
GRS: Great Red Spot
GSC: Guide Star Catalog (for HST)
GSFC: Goddard Space Flight Center (NASA)
GTO: Geostationary Transfer Orbit
HAO: High Altitude Observatory
HD: Henry Draper catalog entry
HEAO: High Energy Astronomical Observatory
HeRA: Hermes Robotic Arm
HF: High Frequency
HGA: High Gain Antenna
HLC: Heavy Lift Capability
HLV: Heavy Lift Vehicle
HMC: Halley Multicolor Camera (on Giotto)
HR: Hertzsprung-Russell (diagram)
HRI: High Resolution Imager (on ROSAT)
HSP: High Speed Photometer (on HST)
HST: Hubble Space Telescope
HUT: Hopkins Ultraviolet Telescope (ASTRO package)
HV: High Voltage
IAPPP: International Amateur/Professional Photoelectric Photometry
IAU: International Astronomical Union
IAUC: IAU Circular
ICE: International Cometary Explorer
IDA: International Dark-sky Association
IDL: Interactive Data Language
IGM: InterGalactic Medium
IGY: International Geophysical Year
IMHO: In My Humble Opinion
IOTA: Infrared-Optical Telescope Array
IOTA: International Occultation Timing Association
IPS: Inertial Pointing System
IR: InfraRed
IRAF: Image Reduction and Analysis Facility
IRAS: InfraRed Astronomical Satellite
ISAS: Institute of Space and Astronautical Science (Japan)
ISM: InterStellar Medium
ISO: Infrared Space Observatory
ISO: International Standards Organization
ISPM: International Solar Polar Mission (now Ulysses)
ISY: International Space Year
IUE: International Ultraviolet Explorer
IUS: Inertial Upper Stage
JEM: Japanese Experiment Module (for SSF)
JGR: Journal of Geophysical Research
JILA: Joint Institute for Laboratory Astrophysics
JPL: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
JSC: Johnson Space Center (NASA)
KAO: Kuiper Airborne Observatory
KPNO: Kitt Peak National Observatory
KSC: Kennedy Space Center (NASA)
KTB: Cretaceous-Tertiary Boundary (from German)
LANL: Los Alamos National Laboratory
LaRC: Langley Research Center (NASA)
LDEF: Long Duration Exposure Facility
LEM: Lunar Excursion Module (a.k.a. LM) (Apollo spacecraft)
LEO: Low Earth Orbit
LeRC: Lewis Research Center (NASA)
LEST: Large Earth-based Solar Telescope
LFSA: List of Frequently Seen Acronyms (!)
LGA: Low Gain Antenna
LGM: Little Green Men
LH: Liquid Hydrogen (also LH2 or LHX)
LLNL: Lawrence-Livermore National Laboratory
LM: Lunar Module (a.k.a. LEM) (Apollo spacecraft)
LMC: Large Magellanic Cloud
LN2: Liquid N2 (Nitrogen)
LOX: Liquid OXygen
LRB: Liquid Rocket Booster
LSR: Local Standard of Rest
LTP: Lunar Transient Phenomenon
MB: Manned Base
MCC: Mission Control Center
MECO: Main Engine CutOff
MMH: MonoMethyl Hydrazine
MMT: Multiple Mirror Telescope
MMU: Manned Maneuvering Unit
MNRAS: Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society
MOC: Mars Observer Camera (on Mars Observer)
MOL: Manned Orbiting Laboratory
MOLA: Mars Observer Laser Altimeter (on Mars Observer)
MOMV: Manned Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle
MOTV: Manned Orbital Transfer Vehicle
MPC: Minor Planets Circular
MRSR: Mars Rover and Sample Return
MRSRM: Mars Rover and Sample Return Mission
MSFC: (George C.) Marshall Space Flight Center (NASA)
MTC: Man Tended Capability
NACA: National Advisory Committee on Aeronautics (became NASA)
NASA: National Aeronautics and Space Administration
NASDA: NAtional Space Development Agency (Japan)
NASM: National Air and Space Museum
NASP: National AeroSpace Plane
NBS: National Bureau of Standards (now NIST)
NDV: NASP Derived Vehicle
NERVA: Nuclear Engine for Rocket Vehicle Application
NGC: New General Catalog
NICMOS: Near Infrared Camera / Multi Object Spectrometer (HST upgrade)
NIMS: Near-Infrared Mapping Spectrometer (on Galileo)
NIR: Near InfraRed
NIST: National Institute for Standards and Technology (was NBS)
NLDP: National Launch Development Program
NOAA: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
NOAO: National Optical Astronomy Observatories
NRAO: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
NRO: National Reconnaissance Office
NS: Neutron Star
NSA: National Security Agency
NSF: National Science Foundation
NSO: National Solar Observatory
NSSDC: National Space Science Data Center
NTR: Nuclear Thermal Rocket(ry)
NTT: New Technology Telescope
OAO: Orbiting Astronomical Observatory
OCST: Office of Commercial Space Transportation
OMB: Office of Management and Budget
OMS: Orbital Maneuvering System
OPF: Orbiter Processing Facility
ORFEUS: Orbiting and Retrievable Far and Extreme Ultraviolet Spectrometer
OSC: Orbital Sciences Corporation
OSCAR: Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio
OSSA: Office of Space Science and Applications
OSSE: Oriented Scintillation Spectrometer Experiment (on CGRO)
OTA: Optical Telescope Assembly (on HST)
OTHB: Over The Horizon Backscatter
OTV: Orbital Transfer Vehicle
OV: Orbital Vehicle
PAM: Payload Assist Module
PAM-D: Payload Assist Module, Delta-class
PI: Principal Investigator
PLSS: Portable Life Support System
PM: Pressurized Module
PMC: Permanently Manned Capability
PMIRR: Pressure Modulated InfraRed Radiometer (on Mars Observer)
PMT: PhotoMultiplier Tube
PSF: Point Spread Function
PSR: PulSaR
PV: Photovoltaic
PVO: Pioneer Venus Orbiter
QSO: Quasi-Stellar Object
RCI: Rodent Cage Interface (for SLS mission)
RCS: Reaction Control System
REM: Rat Enclosure Module (for SLS mission)
RF: Radio Frequency
RFI: Radio Frequency Interference
RIACS: Research Institute for Advanced Computer Science
RMS: Remote Manipulator System
RNGC: Revised New General Catalog
ROSAT: ROentgen SATellite
ROUS: Rodents Of Unusual Size (I don't believe they exist)
RSN: Real Soon Now
RTG: Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator
RTLS: Return To Launch Site (Shuttle abort plan)
SAA: South Atlantic Anomaly
SAGA: Solar Array Gain Augmentation (for HST)
SAMPEX: Solar Anomalous and Magnetospheric Particle EXplorer
SAO: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory
SAR: Search And Rescue
SAR: Synthetic Aperture Radar
SARA: Satellite pour Astronomie Radio Amateur
SAREX: Search and Rescue Exercise
SAREX: Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment
SAS: Space Activity Suit
SAS: Space Adaptation Syndrome
SAT: Synthetic Aperture Telescope
S/C: SpaceCraft
SCA: Shuttle Carrier Aircraft
SCT: Schmidt-Cassegrain Telescope
SDI: Strategic Defense Initiative
SDIO: Strategic Defense Initiative Organization
SEI: Space Exploration Initiative
SEST: Swedish ESO Submillimeter Telescope
SETI: Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence
SID: Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance
SIR: Shuttle Imaging Radar
SIRTF: Space (formerly Shuttle) InfraRed Telescope Facility
SL: SpaceLab
SLAR: Side-Looking Airborne Radar
SLC: Space Launch Complex
SLS: Space(lab) Life Sciences
SMC: Small Magellanic Cloud
SME: Solar Mesosphere Explorer
SMEX: SMall EXplorers
SMM: Solar Maximum Mission
SN: SuperNova (e.g., SN1987A)
SNR: Signal to Noise Ratio
SNR: SuperNova Remnant
SNU: Solar Neutrino Units
SOFIA: Stratospheric Observatory For Infrared Astronomy
SOHO: SOlar Heliospheric Observatory
SPAN: Space Physics and Analysis Network
SPDM: Special Purpose Dextrous Manipulator
SPOT: Systeme Probatoire pour l'Observation de la Terre
SPS: Solar Power Satellite
SRB: Solid Rocket Booster
SRM: Solid Rocket Motor
SSF: Space Station Fred (er, Freedom)
SSI: Solid-State Imager (on Galileo)
SSI: Space Studies Institut
SSME: Space Shuttle Main Engine
SSPF: Space Station Processing Facility
SSRMS: Space Station Remote Manipulator System
SST: Spectroscopic Survey Telescope
SST: SuperSonic Transport
SSTO: Single Stage To Orbit
STIS: Space Telescope Imaging Spectrometer (to replace FOC and GHRS)
STS: Shuttle Transport System (or) Space Transportation System
STScI: Space Telescope Science Institute
SWAS: Submillimeter Wave Astronomy Satellite
SWF: ShortWave Fading
TAL: Transatlantic Abort Landing (Shuttle abort plan)
TAU: Thousand Astronomical Unit (mission)
TCS: Thermal Control System
TDRS: Tracking and Data Relay Satellite
TDRSS: Tracking and Data Relay Satellite System
TES: Thermal Emission Spectrometer (on Mars Observer)
TIROS: Television InfraRed Observation Satellite
TLA: Three Letter Acronym
TOMS: Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer
TPS: Thermal Protection System
TSS: Tethered Satellite System
UARS: Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite
UBM: Unpressurized Berthing Mechanism
UDMH: Unsymmetrical DiMethyl Hydrazine
UFO: Unidentified Flying Object
UGC: Uppsala General Catalog
UHF: Ultra High Frequency
UIT: Ultraviolet Imaging Telescope (Astro package)
UKST: United Kingdom Schmidt Telescope
USAF: United States Air Force
USMP: United States Microgravity Payload
UT: Universal Time (a.k.a. GMT, UTC, or Zulu Time)
UTC: Coordinated Universal Time (a.k.a. UT)
UV: UltraViolet
UVS: UltraViolet Spectrometer
VAB: Vehicle Assembly Building (formerly Vertical Assembly Building)
VAFB: Vandenberg Air Force Base
VEEGA: Venus-Earth-Earth Gravity Assist (Galileo flight path)
VHF: Very High Frequency
VLA: Very Large Array
VLBA: Very Long Baseline Array
VLBI: Very Long Baseline Interferometry
VLF: Very Low Frequency
VLT: Very Large Telescope
VMS: Vertical Motion Simulator
VOIR: Venus Orbiting Imaging Radar (superseded by VRM)
VPF: Vertical Processing Facility
VRM: Venus Radar Mapper (now called Magellan)
WD: White Dwarf
WFPC: Wide Field / Planetary Camera (on HST)
WFPCII: Replacement for WFPC
WIYN: Wisconsin / Indiana / Yale / NOAO telescope
WSMR: White Sands Missile Range
WTR: Western Test Range
WUPPE: Wisconsin Ultraviolet PhotoPolarimter Experiment (Astro package)
XMM: X-ray Multi Mirror
XUV: eXtreme UltraViolet
YSO: Young Stellar Object
#!/usr/bin/perl
# 'alt', An Acronym Scrambling Program, by Larry Wall
$THRESHOLD = 2;
srand;
while (<>) {
next unless /^([A-Z]\S+): */;
$key = $1;
$acro{$key} = $';
@words = split(/\W+/,$');
unshift(@words,$key);
$off = 0;
foreach $word (@words) {
next unless $word =~ /^[A-Z]/;
*w = $&;
vec($w{$word}, $off++ % 6, 1) = 1;
}
}
foreach $letter (A .. Z) {
*w = $letter;
@w = keys %w;
if (@w < $THRESHOLD) {
@d = `egrep '^$letter' /usr/dict/words`;
chop @d;
push(@w, @d);
}
}
foreach $key (sort keys %acro) {
$off = 0;
$acro = $acro{$key};
$acro =~ s/((([A-Z])[A-Z]*)[a-z]*)/ &pick($3, $2, $1, ++$off) || $& /eg;
print "$key: $acro";
}
sub pick {
local($letter, $prefix, $oldword, $off) = @_;
$i = 0;
if (length($prefix) > 1 && index($key,$prefix) < 0) {
if ($prefix eq $oldword) {
$prefix = '';
}
else {
$prefix = $letter;
}
}
if (length($prefix) > 1) {
local(*w) = substr($prefix,0,1);
do {
$word = $w[rand @w];
} until $word ne $oldword && $word =~ /^$prefix/i || ++$i > 30;
$word =~ s/^$prefix/$prefix/i;
$word;
}
elsif (length($prefix) == 1) {
local(*w) = $prefix;
do {
$word = $w[rand @w];
} until $word ne $oldword && vec($w{$word}, $off, 1) || ++$i > 10;
$word = "\u\L$word" if $word =~ tr/a-z/A-Z/;
$word;
}
else {
local(*w) = substr($oldword,0,1);
do {
$word = $w[rand @w];
} until $word ne $oldword && $word =~ tr/a-z/A-Z/ == 0 || ++$i > 30;
$word;
}
}
-- Mark Bradford (bradfrd2@ncar.ucar.edu) <> To err is human, to moo bovine.
"It's an ill wind that gathers no moss."
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From: kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu (Dave 'Almost Cursed the Jays' Kirsch)
Subject: Re: My Belated Predictions (NL)
Nntp-Posting-Host: staff.tc.umn.edu
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Well, as long as folks are sharing their esteemed wisdom, Li'l Karnak sez:
AL West AL East NL West NL East
1) Chicago 1) Toronto 1) Atlanta 1) St. Louis
2) Texas 2) New York 2) Cincinnati 2) Montreal
3) Minnesota 3) Baltimore 3) Houston 3) New York
4) Oakland 4) Boston 4) Los Angeles 4) Philadelphia
5) Seattle 5) Detroit 5) San Diego 5) Pittsburgh
6) Kansas City 6) Milwaukee 6) San Fran. 6) Chicago
7) California 7) Cleveland 7) Colorado 7) Florida
Details to follow later. Pick it apart as you like.
Also, if anyone is still taking entries for prediction pools/contests,
could you snag mine and add it to the list? Thanks.
I'm just glad it's opening day; makes up a little bit for the gloom/doom
weather patterns here.
Lundy,
--
Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch Blue Jays - Do it again in '93
kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu New .. quotes out of context!
"Not to beat a dead horse, but it's been a couple o' weeks .. this
disappoints me..punishments..discharges..jackhammering.." - Stephen Lawrence
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From: rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen)
Subject: Re: Most bang for between $13,000 and $16,000
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 7
Your best bet is the Dodge Intrepid with the SOHC 24 valve 3.4? six.
it gets 214 hp, and has a hell of a lot of room, great styling, and
ABS, with four wheel disk breaks. The LH cars won Automobile
magazines
"automobile of the year" award, and are quiet impressive.
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From: "George Guillory" <wk04942@worldlink.com>
Subject: Tx. Senator Bob Krueger RTKBA statement
Nntp-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
X-Mailer: WORLDLink-DOS (3.3)
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For those of you interested, I just finished talking with a
representative of Senator Bob Krueger's reelection campaign about his
position on the RTKBA. Krueger was appointed by the Democratic Governor
of Texas to complete Lloyd Bentsen's unexpired term.
The representative said that Senator Krueger did not have a position and
would only comment on specific legislation that was pending. No comment
was available on the various versions of the Brady Bill.
Be warned and vote accordingly.
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From: mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon)
Subject: Re: Christian meta-ethics
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Lines: 176
In <lsjc8cINNmc1@saltillo.cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
writes:
>In article <C554F5.3GF@panix.com> mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon) writes:
>
>> The issue, then, is this:
>>
>> Christian A says, "Behavior such-and-such is sinful." What is
>> Christian B supposed to *do* with such a statement?
>>
>> One possibility *always* exists: A may be able to persuade B that the
>> behavior in question *does* exhibit a failure in loving God or neighbor.
>
>Michael, modern liberal that he is, reads a fairly benign meaning
>into this word. He then constructs his religious beliefs around
>this understanding, reading *other* scripture in the context of
>these commandments, with "love" benignly understood.
I regard love as no more or less "benign" than any other Christian does.
You are merely expressing "approval" of the consequences I find therein.
Which says more about our politics and cultural trappings than about my
(or any) religion. "Love" is a highly ambiguous word, of which Christians
can write both the "gentle" words Paul uses of it in 1 Corinthians -- in
a passage that even the "conservatives" will quote at you :-) -- and the
words of T. S. Eliot in his Pentacost Hymn, "Love is the unfamiliar Name
that wove the intolerable shirt of flame ..."
This is in any case rather to the side of what I was attempting to raise
in my note, as will become more evident below.
>As a non-believer, I find Michael's Christianity kinder and gentler.
blechhh. I think you are misreading me, rather seriously. Though,
given my principle that one CANNOT force one's own notion of "sin" on
another, and my unshakeable "disestablishmentarianism", Russel Turpin
and others (believers and unbelievers alike) are under no threat of my
legislating my own understanding of Christian love.
>If I take him at
>his word, he cannot condemn the Inquisitors, because they were
>also following these commandments as *they* understood them. If
You misread. I can do (and have repeatedly done) a complete bill of
accusation against the Inquisition by exhibiting in as thorough a form
as anyone might want a demonstration of the harm it has done to human
beings (in the first place) and to respect for (let alone love of) "God"
in near succession. Please go back to my quoted words above:
The "possibility that always exists" is that I (or, to revert to proper
time sequence, my predecessors over the last several centuries) could
persuade "Christian B" of my case that the Inquisition *does* indeed
constitute an egregious violation of the Law of Love. I must also note
that the majority of Christians HAVE been so persuaded. By Christian
argumentation, as well as by secular [both Christian and non-Christian]
prohibitions.
What Mr. Turpin alludes to is a trickier point:
A. I demonstrate the human pain and violation of love involved
in the Inquisition.
B. The Inquisitor responds that Mother Church must, however
painful this *seems*, "discipline" her children for their
own good -- in this case the salvation of their souls (or
if the tortured heretic will not recant, than by bad example
"deterring" others from the same loss-of-soul.)
A. I point out that this "justification" of a failure in love
depends on a highly speculative construal of texts and of
philosophical assertions that are quite undemonstrable.
B. Burns me at the stake.
My rhetoric has failed, but the point I am making is sustained. What is
going on here has a *lot* to do with "cultural baggage." In this case,
the baggage includes a (nearly universal, and absolutely secular) belief
that an accused person must prove innocence and that testimony is most
believable if taken under torture. The elimination of Inqisitorial
practice (in those places where it *has* been eliminated, or at least
greatly reduced) has very little, if anything, to do with the discussion
of sin in the exchange between A and B.
Mr. Turpin is pointing out that, if I am A versus the Grand Inquisitor's B,
then my persuasion is not very likely to work. I know this; and in what-
ever personal agony, I consign the issue to God and my ghostly defense
attorney. So, "one possibility" fails in this case -- as it will fail in
may others. At the other extreme, the "persuasion" will succeed when it
properly SHOULD not, if it entails mistaken assumptions I share with the
Inquisitor. And that is potentially an even more troubling case, in that
many of the victims of Inquisition will have "accepted" that they were in
fact sinful (in such random cases as they may actually have been guilty
of charges brought against them.)
The point is that the "persuasion" breaks down when the parties do NOT
share enough to agree on all the cultural baggage -- and given the main
thrust of the Inquisition, against "heresy", it is *bound* to break down
in precisely the "worst" cases. The "conservative" (I don't think that
is the right word, BTW) will take refuge in what I attribute to B above,
that he is "justified" in causing harm because he *thinks* that works to
a "greater good." But this is a violent and extravagant REFUSAL to follow
the gospel, as if one's theories about "sin" entitled one to cast aside
Jesus' words on dealing with sinners (cf. Matthew 5:39ff).
I am a "radical" Christian *only* in that I take the gospel seriously.
>(Or, for that matter, what does it mean to love one's fellow
>man?) And what is the "right thing"? And how does one go about
>loving god?
Well, the whole *point* of making these the "base" commandments is that
they *aren't* reducible to rules. A set of rules is a moral code or a
law code or an algorithm for acting. Such things can be very helpful
to individuals or societies -- but not if they are used *instead* of a
personal involvement in and responsibility for one's actions. The Great
Commandment is, more than anything else, a call to act *as if you were
God and accepting ultimate responsibility* in your every action. A
demand that I, like most, would rather *not* hear, but it keeps popping
up nonetheless (along with the reassurance that it is more important
that I be open to trying this, than succeeding at it). "Conservatives"
may twist this "act as if you were God" to mean "lay down rules for other
people and be as nasty to them as possible if they don't keep YOUR rules."
They are so insistent (and obvious) about this that they have convinced a
lot of people (who rightly reject the whole concept!) that such idiocy
IS how God acts. That, after all, is the standard accusation "against
God" by the atheists here and elsewhere. That the "conservatives" have
confused THEIR manipulative, hoop-jumping notions of coercing other
people with the Nature of God is almost the entire content of standard
American atheism -- and I quite agree with it on this point.
>Ethical systems are not differentiated by the nice sounding goo
>up front, much of which sounds pretty much the same, but by the
>*specific* acts, procedures, and arguments that they recommend.
And different bodies of Christians have, from the beginning, urged
*different* "ethical systems" (or in some cases, none). As a result,
it is bizarre to identify any one of these systems, however popular
(or infamous) with Christianity. Christianity DOES NOT HAVE A TORAH.
It does not have a QU'RAN. Specifically Christian scripture has very
little, if anything, in the way of "commandments" -- so little that
the "Christians" who desperately *want* commandments go "mining" for
them with almost no support (and thus almost no obvious limitation :-))
for their efforts. The one, single, thing in the gospels which Jesus
specifically "gives" as "a commandment" to us is "love one another."
[I will be expanding on this point in a reply to Paul Hudson
that I hope to get to in a day or so -- it is quite true that
SOME Christians infer LOTS of commandments from the NT; I'll
point out what has to be going on in these inferences, and why
there is a huge amount of "cultural baggage" involved.]
You are quite right that this is "goo" if one is looking for an ethical
system.
But why should anyone BE looking for an ethical system, since our
society is eager to hand us one or more no matter what we do? It
may be that we need a principle for the CRITIQUE of ethical systems
-- in which case I will profer the _agapate allelou_ once again.
>I am glad that a few Christians,
>such as Michael, find a benign meaning for the goo, and then
>interpret the usually ugly specifics in a more constructive
>fashion. On the other hand, I do think that this tells us more
>about Michael and Christians like him that it tells us about
>Christianity.
I think you are begging the question. Why don't I and the (myriads
of) other Christians like me tell you something about Christianity?
[Nor is this very new in Christianity -- you might want to look up
the origins and fundamental doctrines of the Quakers, from the 17th
century onwards, and they are not at all the first to understand the
gospel in a manner that is congenial to my case.]
--
Michael L. Siemon I say "You are gods, sons of the
mls@panix.com Most High, all of you; nevertheless
- or - you shall die like men, and fall
mls@ulysses.att..com like any prince." Psalm 82:6-7
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From: chairman@staff.tc.umn.edu (Gene Naftulyev)
Subject: FOR SALE: Ethernet board / 24 bit Supermac Combo
Article-I.D.: news2.C51oH4.42y
Organization: U of M
Lines: 26
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7E6634E48016506@dialup-slip-1-6.gw.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 5 Apr 93 04:29:34 GMT
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Gene's stuff for sale...NEW PRICES!!!
The following items are for sale:
Qty. Description List Price
________________________________________________________________________
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This card is primo! selling for $675 mailorder
It suports monitors up to 19 in. with 28" x 28"
virtual desktop. Accelerated, hardware pan, etc!
This quick sale price includes free 2nd day air!
1 Seagate ST1480 430 meg 3.5 in HD 2 mo. old 989.00 675.00
NOTE: All hardware is in normal working order. Prices do NOT include
shipping. All items shipped COD (USA) or pre-paid (anywhere)
Sold:
1 IIsi NuBUS adapter card with FPU 189.00 _115.00_
For any items please contact:
Gene Naftulyev
chairman@staff.tc.umn.edu
or call (612) 942-0134
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: How many read sci.space?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
Lines: 52
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
In article <1993Apr16.014506.27923@sol.UVic.CA> rborden@ugly.UVic.CA (Ross Borden) writes:
|In article <1qjs1j$306@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
|>
|>
|>In the old days, their used to be Arbitron stats' that analyzed
|>the readership and posting volumes by group and user.
|>
|>They were available from UUNET. That's how you check the
|>readership of Sci.space, not some stupid unscientific attempt
|>to flood the newsgroup.
|>
|>I have abetter idea. WHy don't we all reply directly to the
|>origanator of this post, and tell him we read sci.space ;-)
|>
|>
|>pat
|
| Sigh.
| I try to make a little joke, I try to inject some humour here
|and what happens? In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn:
|
| "I say, that was a _joke_, son."
|
| I thought that the bit about McElwaine, not to mention the two
|smileys, would indicate to even the most humour impaired that I was
|JOKING.
> Sigh.
> (And will everyone who pat's suggestion (thanks bunches, pat)
>*please* stop sending me email.)
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>| I shot a man just to watch him die; | Ross Borden |
>| I'm going to Disneyland! | rborden@ra.uvic.ca |
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Now, I had put a Wink at the end of my suggestion indicating it was
intensely sarcastic. I can't help it if everyone got all serious.
Ross.
I never saw your original posting. it dropped on the floor
somewhere. I just saw the trickle down, thought it was intensely
stupid, not knowing anything about the joke, mentioned arbitron
and left it with an equally stupid joke. Bill in his ever increasing
devotion to thoroughness dug up several arbitron stats.
I myself think the arbitron stats are severely methodologically impaired,
but are a good measure of proportion. I don't think anyone
knows how many people read news anymore.
pat
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From: JEK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: etymology of "Easter"
Lines: 53
for SRC
In most languages, the Feast of the Resurrection of Our Lord is
known as the PASCH, or PASQUE, or some variation thereof, a word
which comes from the Hebrew PESACH, meaning "Passover." In English,
German, and a few related languages, however, it is known as EASTER,
or some variation thereof, and questions have been asked about the
origin of this term.
One explanation is that given by the Venerable Bede in his DE
RATIONE TEMPORUM 1:5, where he derives the word from the name of an
Anglo-Saxon goddess of Spring called EASTRE. Bede is a great
scholar, and it is natural to take his word for it. But he lived
673-735, and Augustine began preaching in Kent in 597. The use of
the word EASTER to describe the Feast would have been well
established before the birth of Bede and probably before the birth
of anyone he might have discussed the subject with. It seems likely
that his derivation is just a guess, based on his awareness that
there had been an Anglo-Saxon goddess of Spring bearing that name,
and the resemblance of the words. Thus, if the said resemblance
(surely it is not surprising that a personification of Spring should
have a name similar to the word for Dawn) is not in istelf
convincing, the testimony (or rather the conjecture) by Bede does
not make it more so.
Assuming that Bede was right, that would not justify saying that the
Christian celebration (which, after all, had been going on for some
centuries before the name EASTER was applied to it) has pagan roots.
It would simply mean that the Anglo-Saxons, upon becoming Christians
and beginning to celebrate the Resurrection by a festival every
spring, called it by the name that to them meant simply "Spring
Festival."
However, Bede's is not the only theory that has been proposed. J
Knoblech, in "Die Sprach," ZEITSCHRIFT FUER SPRACHWISSENSCHAFT 5
(Vienna, 1959) 27-45, offers the following derivation:
Among Latin-speaking Christians, the week beginning with the Feast
of the Resurrection was known as "hebdomada alba" (white week),
since the newly-baptized Christians were accustomed to wear their
white baptismal robes throughout that week. Sometimes the week was
referred to simply as "albae." Translaters rendering this into
German mistook it for the plural of "alba," meaning "dawn." They
accordingly rendered it as EOSTARUM, which is Old High German for
"dawn." This gave rise to the form EASTER in English.
Yours,
James Kiefer
[No, I'm not interested in restarting discussions of the propriety
of celebrating Easter. However this seems like it contains enough
interesting information that people might like to see it. --clh]
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From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: Why not concentrate on child molesters?
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 28
In article <C5oG5H.4DE@exnet.co.uk>, sys1@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher) writes:
> In article <15409@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> >In article <MJCUGLEY.93Apr14110319@glenturret.maths-and-cs.dundee.ac.uk>, mjcugley@maths-and-cs.dundee.ac.uk (Womble with Attitude) writes:
# ## Absolutely nothing, seeing as there is no table for heterosexuals.
# ## If, as you claim, the supposedly higher promescuity amongst homosexual
# ## males makes them an insurance risk, you need to be show that
# ## heterosexual males are less promiscuous than homosexual males.
# ## Without the data on heterosexual males, we cannot make a comparison
# ## between promiscuity rates of heterosexuals and homosexuals.
# ##
# ## * mjcugley@maths-and-cs.dundee.ac.uk (world) *
# ## * or mjcugley@uk.ac.dund.maths-and-cs (UK) *
#
# Well, the obvious point to make is would straight men fuck like rabbits
# if the oppertunity presented itself?
#
# I reckon *any* *man* would go wildly promiscuous if presented with a
# huge variety of willing partners. The question here is not of being
That, I suppose, says a lot about how screwed up you are.
# #Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
# Xavier
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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Organization: City University of New York
From: <KEVXU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject: re: ABORTION and private health insurance
Lines: 22
>In <1qid8s$ik0@agate.berkeley.edu> dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dennis Kriz)
writes:
>I recently have become aware that my health insurance includes
>coverage for abortion. I strongly oppose abortion for reasons of
>conscience. It disturbs me deeply to know that my premiums may
>be being used to pay for that which I sincerely believe is
>murder. I would like to request that I be exempted from abortion
>coverage with my health premiums reduced accordingly.
I share Dennis's outrage over a similar manner. I have recently become aware
that my health insurance includes coverage for illness and injuries
suffered by Christians. It disturbs me deeply to know that my premiums
may be used to pay for that which I sincerely believe is divine
punishment for their sinful conduct. In addition these folks are able to
avail themselves of such alternative therapies as Lourdes, Fatima,
Morris Cerullo, Benny Hinn, etc. In any case as "Jesus Saves' I feel
that there is no reason for them to be covering their bets at my
expense. I would like to request that I be exempted from Christian
coverage with my health premiums reduced accordingly.
Jack Carroll
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From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)
Subject: Re: Revelations - BABYLON?
Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 38
Rex (REXLEX@fnal.fnal.gov) writes:
>It is also of interest to note that in 1825, on the occasion of a
jubilee, Pope >Leo the 12th had a medallion cast with his own image on
one side and on >the other side, the Church of Rome symbolized as a
"Woman, holding in >her left hand a cross, and in her right a cup with
legend around her, >'Sedet super universum', 'The whole world is her
seat."
You read more into the medal than it is worth. The Woman is the
Church. Catholics have always called our Church "Holy Mother Church"
and our "Mother." An example would be from St. Cyprian of Carthage, who
wrote in 251 AD, "Can anyone have God for his Father, who does not have
the Church for his mother?"
Hence the image of the Church as a woman, holding a Cross and a Cup,
which tell of the Crucifxition of Our Lord, and of the power of His
Blood (the grail legend, but also, more significantly, it shows that
"This is the Cup of the New Covenant in my blood, which shall be shed
for you and for many." (Luke 22.20), the Cup represents the New Covenant
and holds the blood of redemption). The fact that the woman is holding
both and is said to have the whole world for her seat, is that the
Catholic Church is catholic, that is universal, and is found throughout
the world, and the Church shows the Crucifixtion and applies the blood
of redemption to all mankind by this spread of hers, thorugh which the
Holy Sacrafice of the Mass, can be said and celebrated in all the
nations as Malachi predicted in Malachi 1.11, "From the rising of the
sun to its setting, my name is great among the gentiles, and everywhere
there is sacrafice, and there is offered to my Name a clean oblation,
for my Name is great among the gentiles, says the Lord of hosts." And
so we acknowledge what St. Paul wrote "For as often as you eat this
bread and drink this cup, you show the Lord's death until he comes." (1
Corinthians 11.26)
You are quite right about the identification of "Babylon the Great,
Mother of all Harlots" with Rome. I think we simply disagree as to what
time period of Rome the Apostle John is talking about.
Andy Byler
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From: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Parkin)
Subject: Re: Being right about messiahs
Reply-To: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Lines: 71
In article 2262@geneva.rutgers.edu, Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca (Desiree Bradley) writes:
> I must have missed the postings about Waco, David Koresh, and the Second
> Coming. How does one tell if a Second Coming is the real thing, unless the
> person claiming to be IT is obviously insane?
First by his fruits. The messiah comes to build the kingdom of heaven
on the earth. He also comes to first reveal the root cause of
original sin (fallen nature) and then provide a means to cut the
connection to that original sin. He also wants to create world peace
based on Godism. The messiah's teachings will build on the foundation
of the Bible but provide profound new insights into the nature of God,
the fall of man, the purpose of creation, and God's providence of
restoration. It will also provide a foundation for the unity of all
the World's religions.
Many Christians expect Jesus to come on literal clouds, so they may
miss him when he returns. Just as the Jewish people missed Jesus 2000
years ago. They are still waiting for his first coming. The Jewish
people of that age expected Elijah to come first. Jesus said that
John the Baptist was Elijah. But John the Baptist denied that he was
Elijah. (How did this reflect on Jesus?) Later in prison John even
questioned who Jesus was: "is he the one who is to come or do we look
for another". (see book of Matthew)
>
> I'm not saying that David Koresh is the Second Coming of Christ. How could
> somebody who breaks his word be the Second Coming? Koresh did promise that
> he would come out of his compound if only he was allowed to give a radio
> broadcast. He didn't. Still it seems to me that he did fool some people.
David Koresh didn't even come close. The problem is that people like
this make it difficult for people to believe and trust in the real
Messiah when he does show up.
>
> And, from my meagre knowledge of the Bible, it seems that Christians have
> been hard on the Jews of Christ's day for being cautious about accepting
> somebody that their religious authorities didn't accept as the Messiah.
>
> So I was surprised that nobody had discussed the difficulty of wanting to be
> early to recognize the Second Coming while, at the same time, not wanting to
> be credulously believing just anybody who claims to be God.
Very good point and perhaps the most important point of all for
Christians: How to recognize the Second Coming?
The Messiah should not claim to be God. What sets a Messiah apart is
that he is born without original sin. He is not born perfect but
achieves perfection after a period of growth. Adam and Eve were born
sinless but they fell, and this tragedy meant that it would take God
thousands of years to create the kingdom of heaven on the earth as God
originally intended. God's restoration providence is still not
complete. The messiah is the true Son of God, one with God, God's
representative on the earth, but not God himself. There is only one
God.
> [Mark 13:21 And then if any one says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!'
> or 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it.
...
> Mark 13:26 And then they will see the Son of man coming in clouds with
> great power and glory.
> My understanding of Jesus' answer is that, unlike his first coming,
> which was veiled, the second coming will be quite unmistakeable.
> By the way, from Koresh's public statement it's not so clear to me
> that he is claiming to be Christ.
Who else in this world is claiming to be the Messiah. Maybe he's already here.
Mike
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From: chuq@apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Re: SHARKS REVIEW Part 5: Left Wings
Organization: Go Sharks, Go Giants, Inc.
Lines: 113
NNTP-Posting-Host: apple.com
nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>#8 LARRY DEPALMA Season: 3rd
>Acquired: '91-92, free agent from Minnesota
>Grade: I (C-/D+)
>No netter/fan watching the Sharks, including me, knows where DePalma was at
>the end of the season; the Sharks appeared to still have his rights, but he
>wasn't in San Jose, he wasn't in Kansas City, and his name hasn't appeared on
>the waiver wire.
Sorry, Nelson, but you forgot to ask me. If you check the THN stats for
Kansas City, you'll find that Larry has been playing for the games, having
played in 8 games in the period covered in the stats between 3/26 and the
4/16 issue (1-3-4 with 13 PIM). Not exactly invisible.
>He then was sent down to
>Kansas City, walked out from there, and was suspended and later reinstated
>when it was revealed that he was injured; he then promptly disappeared from
>the watching eyes of Shark Bytes (as the mailing list is now known to Sharks
>officials) faithful, and neither the Sharks nor we miss him.
Well, having gotten to a chance to talk to him a few times, this isn't quite
accurate. He injured his back (a disk injury) and did one stupid thing,
which was to hide it from the Sharks and he tried to play through it because
he knew he was on the bubble. The Sharks then sent him to K.C., at which
point he disclosed the injury. Since he didn't disclose it, the Sharks and
he disagreed about the responsibility and he was suspended for not
reporting. That was eventually worked out, the Sharks re-instated him as
injured and put him into therapy, and when he was able to play then shipped
him down to K.C. He fully expects to play in the NHL again, although clearly
not with the Sharks (hiding injuries is a stupid no-no, beyond just a
no-no).
Very nice guy. Always hustled his butt off. He disappeared because he was
hurt. I expect he'll surface with another team at some point (probably
another expansion team), but is likely to be a bubble player for the rest of
his career. Has a good work ethic and is good at getting other players
motivated. Unfortunately, he played himself out of the Sharks future with a
bad judgement call.
>#20 JOHN CARTER Season: 4th
>Acquired: '91-92, free agent from Boston
>Grade: I (B+/B)
> He
>is very unlikely to be back next season.
Always gave 110%, best work ethic on the club (except maybe Kisio), but
hustle isn't always enough. His future with the Sharks was made clear to me
one night against the Flames when he went behind the crease and tried to
hold Joel Otto against the board. He literally had one arm around Otto's
neck and another wrapped around Otto's stick arm. Otto casually turned
around and fed the puck in front of the crease for a goal, as though Carter
wasn't there. Hustle can only cover size so far.
The Sharks have told me, point blank, that he's gone for good (ditto HUbie
McDonough). He was one of the favorites of the staff, but as one said to me
"you have to make room for the kids". Carter, in fact, refused to report to
K.C. and has been suspended by the Sharks. That might be a defacto
retirement, but I haven't heard anything official. His only hope in hockey
now is the Gulls.
>#28 JEAN-FRANCOIS QUINTIN Season: 1st
>Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft
>Grade: I (B+/B)
>I don't understand why the Sharks didn't let Quintin play any more than the
>14 games he played this season.
Because, at least from the games I saw him in, he was outmatched and looked
fairly lost on the ice. I think he shows potential, but I didn't think he
was quite ready to make the jump to the NHL.
> He should be a solid contender for regular duty next season.
Agreed (BTW, I still think a lot of your grades are more based on how you
wish they'd performed than how they actually performed. I wonder whether you
can really judge talent from radio and television, Nelson? I know I have
trouble, since you don't see the off-puck action. your views from home and
my views from the ice differ in numerous ways)
>#41 MARK BEAUFAIT Season: 1st
>Acquired: 2nd round pick in 1991 supplemental draft
>Grade: I (?)
>After a all-star season at Kansas City, Beaufait got a cup of coffey with the
Coffee. Coffey is with the Red Wings.
>#45 DODY WOOD Season: 1st
>Acquired: 3rd round pick in 1991 entry draft
>Grade: I (D+/D, although perhaps I shouldn't give a grade at all)
>I have been accused of knocking on Wood too much.
You? Nah...
He was seriously unimpressive, even as a tough guy (his rep). However, as
few games as he had in a season that was at that point meaningless, I hate
to judge the talent too quickly. Butn in Dody's case, I"m tempted to make an
exception.
But I won't.
--
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San Francisco Giants fans: giants-request@medraut.apple.com (The Stick?NOT!)
San Jose Sharks fans: sharks-request@medraut.apple.com (New seat: 127/TBD)
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From: healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy)
Subject: Re: Studies on Book of Mormon
Lines: 31
Organization: Walla Walla College
Lines: 31
In article <735023059snx@enkidu.mic.cl> agrino@enkidu.mic.cl (Andres Grino Brandt) writes:
>From: agrino@enkidu.mic.cl (Andres Grino Brandt)
>Subject: Studies on Book of Mormon
>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1993 14:15:33 CST
>Hi!
>
>I don't know much about Mormons, and I want to know about serious independent
>studies about the Book of Mormon.
>
>I don't buy the 'official' story about the gold original taken to heaven,
>but haven't read the Book of Mormon by myself (I have to much work learning
>Biblical Hebrew), I will appreciate any comment about the results of study
>in style, vocabulary, place-names, internal consistency, and so on.
>
>For example: There is evidence for one-writer or multiple writers?
>There are some mention about events, places, or historical persons later
>discovered by archeologist?
>
>Yours in Collen
>
>Andres Grino Brandt Casilla 14801 - Santiago 21
>agrino@enkidu.mic.cl Chile
>
>No hay mas realidad que la realidad, y la razon es su profeta
I don't think the Book of Mormon was supposedly translated from Biblical
Hebrew. I've read that "prophet Joseph Smith" traslated the gold tablets
from some sort of Egyptian-ish language.
Former Mormons, PLEASE post.
Tammy "no trim" Healy
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From: jayne@mmalt.guild.org (Jayne Kulikauskas)
Subject: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart..."
Organization: Kulikauskas home
Lines: 29
gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric Molas) writes:
> Firstly, I am an atheist. I am not posting here as an immature flame
> start, but rather to express an opinion to my intended audience.
[deleted]
>
> We are _just_ animals. We need sleep, food, and we reproduce. And we
> die.
I am glad that I am not an atheist. It seems tragic that some people
choose a meaningless existence. How terrible to go on living only
because one fears death more than life. I feel so sorry for Eric and
yet any attempts to share my joy in life with him would be considered as
further evidence of the infectious nature of Christianity.
As a Christian I am free to be a human person. I think, love, choose,
and create. I will live forever with God.
Christ is not a kind of drug. Drugs are a replacement for Christ.
Those who have an empty spot in the God-shaped hole in their hearts must
do something to ease the pain. This is why the most effective
substance-abuse recovery programs involve meeting peoples' spiritual
needs.
Thank you, Eric for your post. It has helped me to appreciate how much
God has blessed me. I hope that you will someday have a more joy-filled
and abundant life.
Jayne Kulikauskas/jayne@mmalt.guild.org
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From: wls@calvin.usc.edu (Bill Scheding)
Subject: Re: "Full page" PB screen
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 14
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.usc.edu
In article <MfohvGq00WBME4yado@andrew.cmu.edu>,
"Michael T. Callihan" <mc5o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> Hi. I am working on a project for my marketing class and I'd like to
|> ask your help. The assignment is to come up with a product and create a
|> marketing plan for it. Technical issues are not terribly important at
|> this point...
I'm not surprised to learn that `Technical issues are not terribly important' to
anyone working on a 'Marketing Plan'
:)
wls
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From: David.Rice@ofa123.fidonet.org
Subject: islamic authority [sic] over women
X-Sender: newtout 0.08 Feb 23 1993
Lines: 62
who: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
what: <kmr4.1426.733987668@po.cwru.edu>
with: rush@leland.Stanford.EDU
what: <1993Apr5.050524.9361@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>>> Other readers: I just joined, but is this guy for real?
>>> I'm simply amazed.
KR> "Sadly yes. Don't loose any sleep over Old 'Zlumber. Just
KR> have some fun with him, but he is basically harmless.
KR> At least, if you don't work in NY city."
I don't find it hard to believe that "Ole 'Zlumber" really believes
the hate and ignorant prattle he writes. The frightening thought is,
there are people even worse than he! To say that feminism equals
"superiority" over men is laughable as long as he doesn't then proceed
to pick up a rifle and start to shoot women as a preemptive strike---
aka the Canada slaughter that occured a few years ago. But then, men
killing women is nothing new. Islamic Fundamentalists just have a
"better" excuse (Qu'ran).
from the Vancouver Sun, Thursday, October 4, 1990
by John Davidson, Canadian Press
MONTREAL-- Perhaps it's the letter to the five-year old
daughter that shocks the most.
"I hope one day you will be old enough to understand what
happened to your parents," wrote Patrick Prevost. "I loved
your mother with a passion that went as far as hatred."
Police found the piece of paper near Prevost's body in his
apartment in northeast Montreal.
They say the 39-year-old mechanic committed suicide after
killing his wife, Jocelyne Parent, 31.
The couple had been separated for a month and the woman had
gone to his apartment to talk about getting some more money
for food. A violent quarrel broke out and Prevost attacked
his wife with a kitchen knife, cutting her throat, police said.
She was only the latest of 13 women slain by a husband or
lover in Quebec in the last five weeks.
Five children have also been slain as a result of the same
domestic "battles."
Last year in Quebec alone, 29 [women] were slain by their
husbands. That was more than one-third of such cases across
Canada, according to statistics from the Canadian Centre for
Justice. [rest of article ommited]
Then to say that women are somehow "better" or "should" be the
one to "stay home" and raise a child is also laughable. Women
have traditionally done hard labor to support a family, often
more than men in many cultures, throughout history. Seems to me
it takes at least two adults to raise a child, and that BOTH should
stay home to do so!
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Role of 'SDPA.ORG' in slaughter of Gunduz, Ariyak, Arikan, Benler,...
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Apr16.044001.15540@urartu.sdpa.org> hla@urartu.sdpa.org writes:
>Sure it is. It tells us how far right the whole Turkish political spectrum
Nobody ever exposed your crimes like that before? What was your personal
role in the murder of Orhan Gunduz and Kemal Arikan, again? How many more
Muslims will be slaughtered by 'SDPA.ORG' as publicly declared and filed
with legal authorities? Please spell it out for us.
"...that more people have to die..."
SDPA <91@urartu.UUCP>
"Yes, I stated this and stand by it."
SDPA <255@urartu.UUCP>
January 28, 1982 - Los Angeles
Kemal Arikan is slaughtered by two Armenians while driving to work.
March 22, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
Prelude to grisly murder. A gift and import shop belonging to
Orhan Gunduz is blown up. Gunduz receives an ultimatum: Either
he gives up his honorary position or he will be "executed". He
refuses. "Responsibility" is claimed by JCAG and SDPA.
May 4, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
Orhan Gunduz, the Turkish honorary consul in Boston, would not bow
to the Armenian terrorist ultimatum that he give up his title of
"honorary consul". Now he is attacked and murdered in cold blood.
President Reagan orders an all-out manhunt-to no avail. An eye-
witness who gave a description of the murderer is shot down. He
survives... but falls silent. One of the most revolting "triumphs" in
the senseless, mindless history of Armenian terrorism. Such a murder
brings absolutely nothing - except an ego boost for the murderer
within the Armenian terrorist underworld, which is already wallowing
in self-satisfaction.
Were you involved in the murder of Sarik Ariyak?
December 17, 1980 - Sydney
Two Nazi Armenians massacre Sarik Ariyak and his bodyguard, Engin
Sever. JCAG and SDPA claim responsibility.
It is public knowledge that the founder of the Marxist-Leninist terrorist
organization, the ASALA (an integral part of ASALA/SDPA/ARF), Hagop
Hagopian, began his notorious career as a member of the terrorist
group which perpetrated the massacre of the Israeli athletes at the
Munich Olympics in 1972. And the 'Armenian Foundation' stole from the
children of Turkiye to fund the criminal activities of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF
terrorists in their cold-blooded murder of defenceless Turkish and
Kurdish people.
THE ARMENIAN FOUNDATION PROVIDED 30 BILLION TL TO ASALA
01/09/92, MILLIYET-- The Armenian Foundation based in
Istanbul is found to have provided 30 billion Turkish Lira ($6
million) to the Armenian terrorist organization ASALA which have
murdered several Turkish diplomats abroad...
Experts on international terrorism assert that the Armenian terrorists
use proceeds from drug trafficking (and from the Armenian Foundation)
to fund their deadly enterprises. The deadliest of terrorist assassins,
Carlos, proclaimed on Spanish television that his organization had
entered into a working relationship with Armenian terrorists and they
are using drug trafficking to raise money 'to continue' to slaughter
innocent people. Now, what is your personal and organizational role
in this scheme?
Recent reports which have been confirmed by the U.S. Administration,
indicate that Armenian terrorist organizations are collaborating with
those who are responsible for the bombing of the United States Marine
barracks in Beirut. You won't be able to get away with your crimes
forever; the justice is long overdue.
As for the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people between
1914 and 1920:
Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
"Document No: 42," Archive No: 1-2, Cabin No: 110, Drawer
No: 1(4), File No: 373, Section No: 1484(1032), Contents No: 9, 9-1.
(To the Office of Acting Supreme Commander - Acting Assistant
Section Director Major Ali Sukru)
"It is sufficient to mention just some of the terrible and shameful crimes
committed only in Erzurum to get an idea about the Armenian atrocities
in the villages...
I would also like to mention with disgust and abominable sight, a stain
on humanity, that I encountered at the west of Hasankale while my regiment
was proceeding into this town. There was a young Turkish women, apparently
once a very beautiful one, lying dead on one side of the road. A huge
stick had been inserted into her vagina. We took the corpses and left it
at a spot that was invisible from the road..."
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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From: rajaram@camilla.Eng.Sun.COM ()
Subject: * * * For Sale: Window Shades * * *
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Mt. View, Ca.
Lines: 14
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: rajaram@Eng.Sun.COM ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: camilla
Keywords: furnishings window shades
Originator: rajaram@camilla
Kirsch Pull down Window Shades
- White, Light Filtering
- 73.25" Wide, 72" High, can be cut to width
- Brand new, unopened
- "Best Quality", Vinyl Coated Cotton
- Mounting Brackets included
- $35 (Bought at $60 at J.C.Penney)
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rajaram@sun.com (W) 415/336-5194 (H) 510/796-9932
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From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
Subject: Re: atheist?
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Lines: 38
In article <ePVk2B3w165w@mantis.co.uk>
Tony Lezard <tony@mantis.co.uk> writes:
(Deletion)
>> In other words, if there were gods, they would hardly make sense, and
>> it is possible to explain the phenomenon of religion without gods.
>>
>> The concept is useless, and I don't have to introduce new assumptions
>> in order to show that.
>
>Yes I fully agree with that, but is it "I don't believe gods exist", or
>"I believe no gods exist"? As MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mats Andtbacka)
>pointed out, it all hinges on what you take the word "believe" to mean.
>
For me, it is a "I believe no gods exist" and a "I don't believe gods exist".
In other words, I think that statements like gods are or somehow interfere
with this world are false or meaningless. In Ontology, one can fairly
conclude that when "A exist" is meaningless A does not exist. Under the
Pragmatic definition of truth, "A exists" is meaningless makes A exist
even logically false.
A problem with such statements is that one can't disprove a subjective god
by definition, and there might be cases where a subjective god would even
make sense. The trouble with most god definitions is that they include
some form of objective existence with the consequence of the gods affecting
all. Believers derive from it a right to interfere with the life of others.
(Deletion)
>
>Should the FAQ be clarified to try to pin down this notion of "belief"?
>Can it?
>
Honestly, I don't see the problem.
Benedikt
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From: weilej@cary115.its.rpi.edu (Jason Lee Weiler)
Subject: Re: Sun IPX root window display - background picture
Keywords: sun ipx background picture
Article-I.D.: rpi.gc15hqk
Reply-To: weilej@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Lines: 31
Nntp-Posting-Host: cary115.its.rpi.edu
In article <1993Apr19.220817.22480@osi.com>, scott@osi.com (Scott Fleming) writes:
|>
|> Hello netters!
|>
|> I have a fairly weak question to ask everybody in netland. I've looked though
|> the last FAQ for comp.graphics but I didn't find my answer. Thus the post.
|>
|> I'll keep it short.
|>
|> QUESTION: How do I display any raster files, gif files, iff or tiff images
|> that I have on my "root window" or background? I have a sun ipc, openwindows
|> 3.0, Sun OS 4.1.3 if that helps any.
|>
|> I've compiled POV for the sun and would like to display some of the work I have
|> done as a background/tile. Thanks for any help or information that you
|> provide. Have a good day.
|>
|> Scott Fleming
|> OSI
|>
|> P.S.
|> Kudo's to the people who provided POV, its great!
|>
Scott,
I'm not so sure if this is helpful, but I usually use XV v2.21. I use Sun IPCs and IPXs, and it works fine. It can display in a good number of ways.(root being one of them) It's also possible to have XV put up a background automatically at login. Hope this helps.
Jason Weiler
<weilej@rpi.edu>
BTW XV v2.21 is on anonymous FTP somewhere. (archie fer it!)
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From: ibh@dde.dk (Ib Hojme)
Subject: SCSI on dos
Keywords: SCSI, DOS, streamer
Organization: Dansk Data Elektronik A/S
Lines: 23
Hello netters,
I have a question concerning SCSI on DOS.
I have a ST01 SCSI controller and two hard-disks conected
(id's 0 and 1). I'd like to connect a SCSI streamer, but I
don't have software to access it. Does such a beast exist
as shareware or PD ?
Also what if I want a third disk ? I know that DOs only can
"see" two two physical and four logical disks. Will it be
possible to use extra disks ?
Thanks in advance.
Ib
| | Ib Hojme
| | | | Euromax
| __| __| __ | Dansk Data Elektronik A/S, Vejle branch, Denmark
| / |/ |/__> | Telephone: Int +45 75 72 26 00
| \__/\__/\__ | Fax: Int +45 75 72 27 76
| | E-mail: ibh@dde.dk
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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Subject: Re: How about a crash program in basic immunological research?
Organization: University of Northern Iowa
Lines: 22
In article <221@ky3b.UUCP>, km@ky3b.pgh.pa.us (Ken Mitchum) writes:
> As a physician, I almost never get sick: usually, when something horrendous
> is going around, I either don't get it at all or get a very mild case.
> When I do get really sick, it is always something unusual.
>
> This was not the situation when I was in medical school, particularly on
> pediatrics.... Pediatrics for me was three solid
> months of illness, and I had a temp of 104 when I took the final exam!
>
> I think what happens is that during training, and beyond, we are constantly
> exposed to new things, and we have the usual reactions to them, so that later
> on, when challenged with something, it is more likely a re-exposure for us,
> so we deal with it well and get a mild illness.
This is also commonly seen in new teachers. The first few years, they're
sick a lot, but gradually seem to build up immunities to almost everything
common. Come to think of it, I was about my healthiest when I was
working in a pathogens lab, exposed to who-knows-what all the time. Pre-OSHA,
of course.
Kay Klier Biology Dept UNI
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Organization: Penn State University
From: <MVS104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
Distribution: world
<1pan4f$b6j@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1q0fngINNahu@gap.caltech.edu>
<C5C9FA.6zH@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1qabe7INNaff@gap.caltech.edu>
<1993Apr15.150938.975@news.wesleyan.edu>
Lines: 11
In article <1993Apr15.150938.975@news.wesleyan.edu>, SSAUYET@eagle.wesleyan.edu
(SCOTT D. SAUYET) says:
>Are these his final words? (And how many here would find that
>appropriate?) Or is it just that finals got in the way?
>Keep your fingers crossed!
Why should I keep my fingers crossed? I doubt it would do anything. :)
Martin Schulte
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From: jlong@b4pps40.Berkeley.EDU (John Long)
Subject: xman source
Reply-To: jlong@b4pps40.Berkeley.EDU (John Long)
Organization: bnr
Lines: 8
Where can I get xman source? I would like to get the binaries for
xman for an HP 9000/700, but I would settle for source.
--
John O.F. Long, BNR, Inc. | "If there is no God, who pops
jlong@bnr.ca | up the next Kleenex?"
#include <standard_disclaimer.h> | Art Hoppe
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From: ant@palm21.cray.com (Tony Jones)
Subject: Re: MOTORCYCLE DETAILING TIP #18
Lines: 28
Nntp-Posting-Host: palm21
Organization: Cray Research Inc, Eagan, MN
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Chuck Kuczaj (csk@wdl50.wdl.loral.com) wrote:
: mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington) writes:
:
: McGuire's makes a plastic scratch/removing compound and a plastic
: polishing compound which really work great as well.
A useful tip.
How about someone letting me know MOTORCYCLE DETAILING TIP #19 ?
The far side of my instrument panel was scuffed when the previous owner
dumped the bike. Same is true for one of the turn signals.
Both of the scuffed areas are black plastic.
I recall reading somewhere, that there was some plastic compound you could coat
the scuffed areas with, then rub it down, ending with a nice smooth shiny
finish ?
Anyone any ideas.
thanks
tony
--
Tony Jones (ant@cray.com, ..!uunet!cray!ant)
CMCS Codegeneration Group, Software Division
Cray Research Inc, 655F Lone Oak Drive, Eagan, MN 55121
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From: fontana@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana)
Subject: Homemade projector automation
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Lines: 37
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: tomato.cis.ohio-state.edu
Hi all,
I'm an assistant manager at a local art theater here in Columbus. I'd
like to expand our show automation a bit- namely add the capability to
use cue tapes to bring the houselights up. Our current automation
consoles date from the early 60's and don't provide this function.
We already have the combo failsafe/contact rollers to read the cuetapes,
and our dimmer system will raise the houselights when its fade-up control
circuit (120 VAC) is momentarily closed, for at least 0.5 second.
I've tried wiring the dimmer control to a 12V relay, activated when the
cue tape completes the circuit. Low tech and simple, but there's one
problem: In order to get the 1/2 second pulse, there needs to be
a sh**load of cuetape on the film. (35mm runs at 90 feet per minute,
so to get a 1/2 second pulse, there needs to be at least 9 inches of solid
cuetape!)
Ideally, I would like to use a single cross-cue to accomplish this function.
(A single strip of cuetape perpendicular to the length of the film)
This would give a pulse of approximately 1/100 of a second.
What I need is a circuit to detect the short cue and activate the relay
for around 1/2 second. The ability to adjust how long the relay
is activated would be nice. I figure this would require an RC circuit
of some sort. I'm sure some of you already have the solution figured
out in your heads. Any suggestions and schematics would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Mark Fontana
--
"Of all the arts, the cinema is | Mark A. Fontana
the most important." | Computer and Information Science
--V.I. Lenin | THE Ohio State University
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From: bkph@kauai.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn)
Subject: Re: ATM
Article-I.D.: life.1r6m6hINNg6b
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Lines: 29
NNTP-Posting-Host: kauai.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: downs@helios.nevada.edu's message of Wed, 21 Apr 1993 20:20:28 GMT
In article <downs.220.735423628@helios.nevada.edu> downs@helios.nevada.edu (Lamont Downs) writes:
>>So good that there isn't any diff whether or not ATManager is turned
>>on or not. Is it worth it to run ATM at all? Especially with these
>>better printer technologies ... and TT?
>
>There are some fonts that are only available as PS fonts. If you
>have a PS font that you want to use, use ATM. Otherwise, it is
>a waste of system resources.
>
-----Or, if you need to use a service bureau and they're only set up to use
Type 1 fonts. From what I've heard (pure hearsay) the results of outputting
TT fonts as Type 1 is _not_ as good as using high-quality Type 1 fonts in
the first place.
Unless you `print' to file with the correct resolution set for the
final output device (image setter). A problem with TT fonts in Windows
is that they do get converted to T1 format OK, and the hinting is even used
while this is done, but the resulting T1 fonts are NOT hinted. The result
is that they WILL work fine on a device of the resolution assumed by the
printer driver when the PS file is generated, but they will not look
good when printed at a different resolution.
So when you print to an attached PS printer, with the PS driver set up for
this printer results, may be quite good. But if you take a PS file made for
that printer and run it on a device of different resolution (such as an
image setter), then the results may not be so good.
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From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Davidians and compassion
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 26
So we have this highly Christian religious order that put fire
on their house, killing most of the people inside.
I'm not that annoyed about the adults, they knew supposedly what
they were doing, and it's their own actions.
What I mostly are angry about is the fact that the people inside,
including mothers, let the children suffer and die during awful
conditions.
If this is considered religious following to the end, I'm proud
that I don't follow such fanatical and non-compassionate religions.
You might want to die for whatever purpose, but please spare
the innocent young ones that has nothing to do with this all.
I have a hard time just now understanding that Christianity
knows about the word compassion. Christians, do you think
the actions today would produce a good picture of your
religion?
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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From: jamesc@netcom.com (James Chuang)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 24 giving 9.4 Winmarks?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 8
PC Mag only got around 9-10 Winmarks when they tested the Steal 24. It sounds
like you are ok.
jamesc
--
=========================================
If someone asks if you are a God, you say... YES!
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: TV Schedule for Next Week
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: PhDs In The Hall
Distribution: na
Lines: 33
jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio) writes:
>mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger) writes:
>
>|> United States TV Schedule:
>|> April 18 Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh 1 EST ABC
>|> April 18 St. Louis at Chicago 12 CDT ABC
>|> April 18 Los Angeles at Calgary 12 PDT ABC
Okay, here's the down side of the ESPN deal: no additional coverage.
With a split contract, SCA could have at least gotten at leftovers
like Canucks-Jets, Caps-whoever and Red Wings-Leafs (or whoever else
is playing).
>|> April 20 Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh 7:30 ESPN
>|> April 22 TBA 7:30 ESPN
>|> April 24 TBA 7:30 ESPN
>
>Does anyone know if there will be alternate games in cities where
>local broadcast rights are being protected?
For our area (Islanders-Devils), it's likely to be the Bruins, since
the other Adams series is Montreal-Quebec. I'd prefer the latter
myself ...
I'm under the impression that the ABC deal overrides the local deals,
but if St. Louis at Chicago pops up we'll know ...
gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare
> gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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From: shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday)
Subject: Re: Basil, opinions? (Re: Water on the brain)
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Lines: 21
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: composer.think.com
In article <1993Apr16.141204.21479@ncsu.edu>, hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) writes:
|>
|>
|> BTW, does the Litani River not flow West and not South? I think that its waters
|> stay entirely within Lebanese territory and so what Hasan says about the Jordan
|> River makes no sense, in any case. The Hasbani River, on the other hand, flows
|> into the Jordan, if I am not mistaken.
The Litani river flows in a west-southwestern direction and indeed does
not run through the buffer zone. The Hasbani does flow into the Jordan
but contrary to what our imaginative poster might write, there has been
no increase in the inflow from this river that is not proportional to
climatic changes in rainfall.
|> Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
--
Shai Guday | Stealth bombers,
OS Software Engineer |
Thinking Machines Corp. | the winged ninjas of the skies.
Cambridge, MA |
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From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (Clinton/Gore '92)
Subject: CLINTON: President's Remarks at Summer Jobs Conference 4.14.93
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Lines: 378
NNTP-Posting-Host: life.ai.mit.edu
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 14, 1993
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
AT SUMMER JOBS CONFERENCE
Hyatt Regency
Crystal City, Virginia
11:22 A.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. The speech that
Octavius gave says more than anything I will be able to say today
about why it's important to give all of our young people a chance to
get a work experience and to continue to learn, to merge the nature
of learning and work; why it's important to honor the efforts of
people like Jerry Levin and Nancye Combs and Pat Irving and all of
those who are here.
I want to thank the Secretaries of Labor and Education
and all the people who work with them for sponsoring this; and my
good friend, Governor Wilder, for being here and for speaking; and
all of the business and local community leaders from the city and
county and state level from around America who are here.
This has been a pretty fun day. (Laughter.) I loved
hearing the young people sing. It was music to my ears because it is
their future that we are really struggling about. (Applause.) A
year and a half ago I began the quest to seek the presidency because
I was concerned about their future. Because I believe that our
country, which had always been a beacon of hope for the young, had
too little opportunity, was too divided among ourselves across lines
of income and race and region and other ways, without a vision to
take us into the future.
I entered with the hope that together we could create
more opportunity and insist on much more responsibility from all of
our people. But in the process we might recreate the best of
America's community, knowing that together we could always to more
than we could individually and that we might secure our future.
All of you here today are committed to that. The 1,000
jobs that Jerry Levin has committed Time-Warner to is symbolic of the
commitments made by many of the private sector people who are here,
and those who are around the country. The work that Nancye Combs
does, and the successes of all the young people like those on this
stage, and especially the eloquent statement Octavius Jeffers -- all
those things show that together we know what we need to do, and we're
on the right track.
Last July when I was traveling across America's
heartland in my luxurious bus, I visited Seneca High School in
Louisville, Kentucky. And there I met young people and business
people who were participating in the Louisville Education and
Employment Partnership. I saw what Nancye Combs talked about today.
I saw how the young people were making an extra effort to succeed
both in school and at work. I saw, as I have seen many times in my
own state, the principle illustrated that Octavius has talked about
-- that for millions of American young people it is really an
impediment to both their learning and their ability to be good
workers to draw a sharp dividing line between what is work and what
is learning.
In the world in which we are living, the average young
person will change the nature of work seven or eight times in a
lifetime. We must learn to merge the work world and the learning
world much better. And we must determine that all of our young
people see the opportunities that some of them have had showcased
here today.
Whether you're in business or in government or in
education, you know that we have a big job to do when it comes to
building a future that really, honestly includes opportunity for all
of our people. There are still a lot of people who say, well, things
are pretty good here in Washington and everything's fine; the best
thing we can do about this whole thing is nothing. They all have
jobs. (Laughter.) All the people who say that. (Applause.)
They all have health insurance. They all have a pretty
good education. And they all have a pretty secure knowledge that
they'll be okay no matter what happens. I say that not to be either
political or unduly critical, but to point out that one of the great
challenges of this age for every advanced nation -- everyone -- is to
fully develop the capacities of all of its people, and then find work
for them to do.
All the European countries have higher unemployment
rates than we do, but also stronger support systems for the
unemployed. The Japanese unemployment rate has been going up.
They're going to adopt a stimulus that, even if you count it in its
most rigorous terms, is three or four times bigger than the one that
I have proposed to create jobs.
In West Germany alone, the unemployment rate is now
about as high as ours. This is a big problem for advanced nations.
It costs a lot of money to add an extra employee, with a lot of
pressure from low-wage producers in other countries that are growing
their own economies and trying to provide new opportunity for their
people.
But it is especially important for America for two
reasons: One is, we have a whole lot of folks who, unless we move
aggressively, will not have the education and skills we need to be
competitive and productive in a nation like this. The second is,
even if we educate them all, if there aren't jobs they will be robbed
of the fruits of their educational labors. People need to be able to
work in this country. (Applause.)
We have always had some unemployment; and, indeed, some
of it is normal. You've always got some people leaving jobs and
moving around the country and doing first one thing and another. We
have now, at this moment in our history, the necessity for all big
organizations, including the government, to reexamine the way they
are organized and who ask whether there are too many people working
at some kinds of jobs. But in the whole, we must still be able to
create jobs in a country like America, to provide people with the
chance to work.
It's going to be difficult for me to make the welfare
reform proposals that I will make to Congress in the next couple of
months -- it's going to be hard for me to make those work if, at the
end of all this work, to get off welfare there isn't a job.
(Applause.)
So we have two tasks. One is to develop the capacity of
the American people to perform without regard to race or income or
the circumstances of their birth. The other is to make sure that
there are some opportunities for them to bring to bear for their
talent and to be rewarded with a paycheck. It is a great challenge.
I do not pretend that all of the answers are simple. But I know if
you want to ask the American people, all of them, to be more
responsible, if you want to recreate a sense of community in this
country that bridges the lines of race and income and region, you
have got to have opportunity in that mix.
A part of our vision for America has to be a future for
every young person in this country who's willing to play by the rules
and work hard and strive for the end of the rainbow. There has to be
something at the end of that rainbow. And that is what we are
basically here to talk about today: What can we all do as partners,
recognizing none of us can do it alone, to develop the capacities of
our people to succeed wherever they live and whatever their
background. And then, what can we do to make sure that there's
something there for them to do?
The summer jobs program we're discussing today is an
integral part of that plan, because it will promote the values of
work and opportunity and fairness, community. It will put the people
first, and it does have a partnership between the public and private
sector.
I said when I addressed the United States Congress in
February on this program that I would seek to create about 700,000
extra summer jobs from government sources and then challenge the
American business community to meet that target so that we can create
more than a million new summer jobs over and above what had been
created before.
Many, many people have responded to that challenge. And
Jerry is just a shining example of that which has been replicated in
this room and around the country -- people who are going to do more
than they otherwise would in the private sector to give young people
a work experience. And it is terribly important.
I want to emphasize that this summer jobs program is
part of an overall commitment to increase the capacity of the
American people -- from retraining defense workers who lose their
jobs and other adults who need to acquire new skills; to improving
the transition from school to work for young people who don't go to
college but do need at least two years of post-high school training
either on the job or in a community college or a vocational setting,
so that they can be competitive workers, making it possible for more
people to go on to college who do want to go.
All these things are part and parcel of a comprehensive
plan. It's also important, as I said, that we create more jobs. The
emergency jobs program that I asked the Congress to adopt would
create a half a million extra jobs over the next year and a half, and
that would reduce the unemployment rate by a half a percent. It
would also enable us to absorb more young people coming into the work
force in jobs that otherwise will not be created.
It also will help a lot of cities and counties to
invest in things that need to be done at the grass-roots level --
projects long delayed, water projects, sewer projects, park projects,
new industries and particularly in small and medium-size communities
-- a whole range of things that will improve the economy and improve
the environment.
The summer jobs program is an important part of that
because we have tried for the first time, through the work of the
Labor Department and the Education Department and through reaching
out to people like you, to make this more than just a one-shot summer
jobs program; to integrate it with private sector efforts; to
hopefully replicate it in each coming summer; to move these young
people into further educational opportunities and to further job
opportunities; and to have a strong, meaningful education component
to these summer jobs -- something that the United States government
has never fully emphasized before.
A lot of these young people, as you well know, because
they come from difficult backgrounds, because they go to school in
difficult and challenging circumstances, need extra help in building
their basic skills in math and language, reasoning and in other
areas. And a lot of educational studies show that young people who
have difficulty in school often forget as much as 30 percent of what
they learn over the summer and then that has to be repeated the next
year.
What we are trying to do here is to give people the
opportunity to learn good work habits and to reinforce their learning
skills and to put them together; and then, hopefully, over the next
couple of years, if our entire program passes, to give every school
in this country the opportunity to have a good work and learning
environment.
There will be more applied academics, more opportunities
for people to learn and work during the school year, so that this
will not simply be an isolated moment for these young folks, but will
be a part of building a whole new educational experience, a whole new
work experience, and moving on a pathway to a better future.
The summer jobs programs are not designed to be make-
work jobs. They're designed to make a future for the people holding
the job. And that's what they will do. In the process, they'll help
to build local communities, to strengthen local economies, to solve
local problems. Real jobs -- renovating housing, repairing public
buildings, doing clerical work, providing nursing assistance in
hospitals, supervising and training children at child care centers,
and learning all the way. Challenging young people to learn while
they earn, but letting them earn.
You know, it's very difficult to make a case to people
who have never seen opportunity on their own street that they should
do this, that, or the other thing if there's no evidence of the
opportunity that's at the end of the effort. I have not been sparing
in going for the last year-and-a-half into places where it isn't
exactly popular to say it, and say I wanted to reform the welfare
system; I wanted to toughen child support; I wanted to require people
to work; I was sick and tired of people being irresponsible in the
use of guns on the streets, and I wanted to change all that. But if
you're going to summon people to greater responsibility, you have to
reward them when they do the right thing with opportunity.
(Applause.)
The young people we propose to put to work under our
program will spend 90 hours learning basic skills, such as math,
reading, writing -- either on the job in the classroom. They will
stretch their minds as well as work up a sweat. They will have a
sense of accomplishment. It will literally be a summer challenge,
but a challenge that will take them into a different life.
So I want to ask all of you to support this effort even
as I, as your President, support your effort. At the end of the
summer we will evaluate all the young people who participate. We'll
see whether they, instead of falling behind over the summer
academically as too many young people do, they stayed even or moved
ahead. I suspect that they will.
This summer, Secretary Reich and Secretary Riley and I
will be visiting many of your communities. We'll really try to learn
from you which of these efforts are working, what we should do next
summer, how we can build it in to what goes on during the school
year, how we can build in our job training efforts and the works that
we do with your companies to make sense of this whole thing -- so
that we maximize the impact of the taxpayer dollar and your private
investments as well.
We want to honor the companies and the communities, the
business leaders and the young people who do the very best jobs this
summer. And, again, I want to say to all of you in private business
who have matched our effort, I thank you. And to all of you who
haven't, and those across the country who may listen or learn about
this event today, I want to implore other private employers to
stretch a little bit to give other young people a chance to work this
summer. I'm telling you, we cannot go through another 10 years when
we don't give these children anything to say yes to. If we exhort
them to do right, we've got to be able to reward them. (Applause.)
When the other speakers were talking, I was sitting up
here on the platform, listening and reveling. And they got talking
about work, and I got to thinking about all the different things I've
done to make a living in my life. When I was 13, I made a very
foolish short-term business investment: I set up a comic book stand
and sold two trunks full of comic books. Made more money than I had
ever had in my life. But if I had saved those trunks, they'd be
worth $100,000 today. (Laughter.)
That does not mean young people should not be
entrepreneurial. It just means that you can't foresee a generation
ahead. I have mowed yards and cleared land and built houses and
worked in body shops and the parts departments of a car dealership.
And I've done a lot of different things for a living. Some
people say I got into politics to escape work. (Laughter.)
I learned something from every job I ever had. But I
grew up in a generation where I literally did not know a living soul
without regard to race or income who wanted to work who didn't have a
job. I grew up in a generation when all you had to really say to
people is, get an education and you'll be all right. You'll get a
job and you'll make more money next year than you did this year. Now
I live in a generation full of people, most of whom don't make any
more money in real dollars than they did 10 years ago and they're
working longer hours and they're paying more for the basics of life.
And we are now wondering whether we can create the jobs that these
young people want.
Now, I want to close by reemphasizing these two things:
It doesn't matter what kind of economic policies this administration
pursues, or how much productivity increases there are in the private
sector, if young Americans don't get a good education, don't learn
how to work and can't be productive, those jobs will not be created
in this country. Machines will do the work or the work will be done
off-shore by people who have the same skill levels and can work for a
third or a fourth or a fifth the wages. So nothing we can do
economically will matter unless we build the skills and capacities of
America's work force. And anybody that pretends otherwise is just
kidding.
On the other hand, we need to be honest. Every wealthy
country in the world, including the United States, is having
difficulty creating jobs. If I knew everything that needs to be done
I'd be glad to tell you and we could just call off the whole
deliberations of Congress and everything else. I don't have all the
answers. But I know this: Doing nothing is not the answer.
(Applause.)
And so the jobs program that I have presented to
Congress, with the summer jobs, with the money for the cities and the
counties, through the Community Development Program, with the
infrastructure money, is a small part of a big budget. It is an
attempt to engage in an experiment to see whether or not, with the
economy recovering in terms of corporate profit, we can give a little
boost to it, give opportunities to young people, create a half a
million jobs and maybe get the engine going again.
Most of the jobs in this program are going to be jobs in
the private sector, not government jobs, even though it's government
money. And the lion's share of the work in rebuilding the American
economy obviously will come from the private sector. That's the kind
of system we have and it works pretty well.
But this is the challenge we have. So I ask all of you
here today to support the summer jobs program, to ask your friends
and neighbors to support it, to go back home and ask your employers
to make a little extra effort; to do what you can to help me pass the
funds to create the 700,000 jobs that the United States government
should create this summer, so that together we can have this
partnership. Because more than anything else, we have to give a
future -- a future that our young people can believe in.
We need to send them a message that here in America if
you study hard and work hard, if you obey the law and contribute
something to your community, you will be rewarded by your country.
You can build a future from you own dreams.
That has always been the promise of America. Together
that's what this summer of challenge needs to be: a reaffirmation of
the promise of America for so many young people to whom that promise
has been an illusion. We can make it a reality.
Thank you very much. (Applause.)
END11:45 A.M. EDT
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From: luriem@alleg.edu The Liberalizer (Michael Lurie)
Subject: Re: Best Lifetime Record in Baseball History
Article-I.D.: alleg.1993Apr6.210157.2758
Organization: Allegheny College
Lines: 19
In article <1993Apr6.114106.156@corning.com> cecce_aj@corning.com writes:
> Speaking of the Marlins winning the opener:
>
> Based on lifetime percentage of games won, who has the second best
record
> in baseball history (soon to be the best record again)?
>
>
> If I had to guess I would be forced to say the Yankees. On the other
hand
> the Blue Jays might be up there too.
>
> Hmmmmm....
>
> Tony
Blue Jays? No way hell, but the yankees probably do. Remember, the Yankees
had the best record of any team in the 80's, and probably take the 20's
through 60's as well.
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From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: Still Waiting for Evidence, Mr. Cramer
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 46
In article <mortalC4wxLn.8s2@netcom.com>, mortal@netcom.com (Sam Lowry) writes:
> In article <15033@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> >In article <1993Mar19.142816.15709@rational.com>, kima@excalibur.Rational.com (Kim Althoff) writes:
> >> In article <14992@optilink.COM>, cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# ## # Gay men constitute at least 20% of all child molestations. Whether
# ## # this is because gay molesters are unusually common, or have unusually
# ## # high numbers of victims, sort of misses the point, doesn't it? It
# ## # means that whichever is the case, homosexual men are remarkably
# ## # hazardous to children.
# #
# Clayton says:
# #
# #You are incorrect. The most recent survey data I can find shows that
# #26% of molestation is exclusively homosexuals, 4% is bisexual (victims
# #are both male and female), and the remainder is exclusively heterosexual.
# So what you are saying is that 74% of the child molestations are
# committed by heterosexuals. I cannot see the correlation you cite
Bisexuals are heterosexuals? Since when?
# which concludes that by being homosexual, you will molest children or that
# by being homosexual you will have the propensity for molesting children.
I haven't said that "homosexual = child molester," simply that is more
likely.
# If 26% of the molestations are by homosexuals, why are you so concerned
# about creating a relation between the two? If you had evidence that
# 95% of the molestations are committed by homosexuals you might find a
# relationship. Ok, where is the realtionship you make?
The one that is shown when NAMBLA marches in gay parades.
# Also, what is the reason people molest? From Human Sexuality and a
# psych class or too I have taken the overwhelming voice says that people
# commit these acts as power trips and to feel in control. This has nothing
# to do with sexual orientation.
You mean that S&M, because it's a power trip, has nothing to do with
sexual orientation?
# mortal@netcom.com
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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From: klg@mookie.mc.duke.edu (Kim Greer)
Subject: Re: electronic odometers (was: Used BMW Question ..... ???)
Organization: Duke Medical Center - Radiology
Lines: 27
Nntp-Posting-Host: mookie.mc.duke.edu
In article <1993Apr15.044636.29924@slcs.slb.com> dcd@se.houston.geoquest.slb.com (Dan Day) writes:
>That's scary -- if there's a way to set an arbitrary mileage figure
>into the odometer, you can't trust *any* odometer reading, even
>if you can prove that the odometer itself is the same one that
>came on the car originally.
I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on just how it is that these
electronic odometers remember the total elapsed mileage? What kind of
memory is stable/reliable enough, non-volatile enough and independent enough
(of outside battery power) to last say, 10 years or more, in the life of a
vehicle? I'm amazed that anything like this could be expected to work for
this length of time (especially in light of all the gizmos I work with that
are doing good to work for 2 months without breaking down somehow).
Side question: how about the legal ramifications of selling a used car with
a replaced odometer that starts over at 0 miles, after say 100/200/300K
actual miles. Looks like fraud would be fairly easy - for the price of a
new odometer, you can say it has however many miles you want to tell the
buyer it has.
Thanks for any insight.
Kim Greer
Duke University Medical Center klg@orion.mc.duke.edu
Div. Nuclear Medicine POB 3949 voice: 919-681-5894
Durham, NC 27710 fax: 919-681-5636
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