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4000 | From: schuch@phx.mcd.mot.com (John Schuch)
Subject: Re: Radio Electronics Free information card
Nntp-Posting-Host: bopper2.phx.mcd.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
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In article <C5uLqG.I5@acsu.buffalo.edu> v064mb9k@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL B. GANDLER) writes:
>
> How does the radio Electronics free information cards work.
>Do they just send you some general information about the companies that
>advertise in their magazine or does it also give you sign you up for a
>catalog.
That depends entirely upon the advertiser whose number you circled.
Radio Electronics compiles all of the cards, then each advertiser
gets a computer printout of the names and addresses of all of the readers
who circled their number. Some magazines also provide the data on
self-adhesive labels, and the really big magazines provide the
data on computer disk.
The advertiser decides what to do with the data they get. You will
notice that the Radio Electronics information card (commonly called
a "bingo card" in the industry) includes lines for a company name
and a business phone number. My guess would be that the big, national
advertisers make a distinction between hobbiests and professionals as
best they can. For example, if you include Motorola as your company
and include a business phone (and a mail stop), Tektronics will probably
send you a copy of their hard-bound catalog and have a sales engineer
call you about a week later. If you leave it blank, odds are they
will send you a slick brochure and direct you to a local retail
outlet. Medium and small companies are more likely to send you th
e whole catalog. And then some companies, like Digikey or Jameco, have
nothing to mail out accept the catalog.
A couple of other interesting points about bingo cards: Free, industry
magazines like EDN and such also log your card to their computer. They
use the information at least three ways. They note that you really do read
the magazine and are more likely to continue your subscription or push
you, through repeated mailings, to re-subscribe. They also compile
how many people requested which data for their marketing demographics.
This way thay can tell a prospective advertiser that "23% of readers
requesting data were interested in capacitors." And finally, some
magazines rent lists of readers who request certain information. For
example, Tektronics can rent a list of everyone who requested information
about test equipment OTHER THAN TEKTRONIC's, in the past 6 months.
The other point, in the data the advertiser receives, many magazines
include how many items you circled on the card. If they want, the
advertiser can attempt to cull out the "literature collectors" from
the serious potential customers.
"Can you say qualified sales leads? I thought you could."
What's the BEST way for a hobbiest to deal with bingo cards?
Never circle more than 8 number on the card. If you want more
than 8 items, use the second card and mail it a couple of
weeks later.
If you are really, really serious and you really, really want
the information, CALL THE ADVERTISER AND ASK! This will also
cut about 15 days off the the response time. Virtually
everyone takes a voice on the phone more seriously than data
on a computer printout.
To help insure you keep getting a trade magazine that you're
not really "qualified" for, send in a bingo card at least every
other month and circle two or three numbers.
Include a business name and phone number, even if it's your house.
Advertisers almost never call.
John Schuch
publisher of: The Arizona High-Tech Times
The Arizona Electrical Journal
The Arizona HVAC News
(all of which have bingo cards)
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4001 | From: jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge)
Subject: Re: "militia" (incredibly long)
Organization: Interactive Media Group - University of Massachusetts at Lowell
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In article <1qna9m$nq8@transfer.stratus.com>, cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
-> In article <C5L0n2.5LL@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge) writes:
-> > But, do you knew how much organization is required to training a large
-> > group of poeple twice a year. Just to try to get the same people
-> > every year, provide a basic training to new people so they can
-> > be integrated into the force, and find a suitable location, it
-> > requires a continually standing committee of organizers.
->
-> Again, my response is, "so what?" Is Mr. Rutledge arguing that since
-> the local and federal governments have abandoned their charter to support
-> such activity, and passed laws prohibiting private organizations from
-> doing so, that they have eliminated the basis for the RKBA? On the
-> contrary, to anyone who understands the game, they have strengthened it.
No, I originally argued that the Second Amendment was "a little bit
and an anachronism." These prohibiting laws are examples why the are
an anachronism. After all, laws in made by representatives of the
people. These representatives of the people have already decided
that the Second Amendment does not apply or is too broad in some
cases. Since these representatives feel an unconditional
interpretation is not wanted, then it is probable that they majority
of the people feel the same way. If this is so, it is an example
of the people using their power of government. If this is not
how the people feel, the people should stand up and state their wishes.
> Mox nix, Mr. Rutledge. YOU are the only one here claiming that the
-> RKBA is dependent on the existence of a top-flight, well-regulated
-> militia. Why this is a false assumption has already been posted a
-> number of times.
No, I simple stated that the people have a right to "join a well
organized militia." And I have also stated that a militia that
meets once or twice a year is clearly "well organized." And this
state of readiness that I have claimed the people have a "right"
to, is the same state of readiness expected of the militia as stated
by Hamilton.
--
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| | "If only it were a modern document, with a |
| John Lawrence Rutledge | smart index and hyper links stretching all |
| Research Assistant | through the world data net. It was terribly |
| | frustrating to flip back and forth between |
| Interactive Media Group | the pages and crude flat illustrations that |
| Computer Science Department | never even moved. Nor were there animated |
| UMass - Lowell | arrows or zoom-ins. It completely lacked a |
| 1 University Ave. | for sound. |
| Lowell, MA 01854 | "Most baffling of all was the problem of new |
| | words... In normal text you'd only have to |
| (508) 934-3568 | touch an unfamiliar word and the definition |
| jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu | would pop up just below." |
| | from David Brin's "Earth" |
+-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
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4002 | From: DBOHDAL@JAGUAR.ESS.HARRIS.COM
Subject: Icon Box
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 9
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Cc: DBOHDAL@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Dear Xperts:
I want to place a specific group of icons in an icon box and
have my other icons appear outside of the box. Does anyone
know if there's a way I can do this?? I'm using X11R5 and
Motif 1.2.1.
Thanks!
dbohdal@jaguar.ess.harris.com
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4003 | From: will@rins.ryukoku.ac.jp (William Reiken)
Subject: Re: nuclear waste
Organization: Ryukoku Univ., Seta, Japan
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Thanks for the Update.
Will...
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4004 | From: hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU
Subject: Re: 18 Israelis murdered in March
Originator: hasan@haley.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
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Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
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In article <FLAX.93Apr5224449@frej.teknikum.uu.se>, flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr5.125419.8157@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
|> In article <FLAX.93Apr4151411@frej.teknikum.uu.se>, flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare) writes:
|>
|> |> In article <1993Apr3.182738.17587@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
|>
|> |> In article <FLAX.93Apr3142133@frej.teknikum.uu.se>, flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare) writes:
|>
|> |> |> I get the impression Hasan realized he goofed and is now
|> |> |> trying to drop the thread. Let him. It might save some
|> |> |> miniscule portion of his sorry face.
|>
|> |> Not really. since i am a logical person who likes furthering himself
|> |> from any "name calling", i started trashing any article that contains
|> |> such abuses without responding to, and sometimes not even reading articles
|> |> written by those who acquired such bad habits from bad company!
|> [deleted stuff]
|> well , ok. let's see what Master of Wisdom, Mr. Jonas Flygare,
|> wrote that can be wisdomely responded to :
|>
|> Are you calling names, or giving me a title? If the first, read your
|> paragraph above, if not I accept the title, in order to let you get into the
|> um, well, debate again.
I didnot know that "Master of wisdom" can be "name clling" too,
unless you consider yourself deserve-less !
|> Master of Wisdom writes in <1993Mar31.101957@frej.teknikum.uu.se>:
|>
|> |> [hasan]
|> |> |> [flax]
|> |> |> |> [hasan]
|>
|> |> |> |> In case you didNOT know, Palestineans were there for 18 months.
|> |> |> |> and they are coming back
|> |> |> |> when you agree to give Palestineans their HUMAN-RIGHTS.
|>
|> |> |> |> Afterall, human rights areNOT negotiable.
|>
|> |> |> |> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the right to one's life _also_
|> |> |> |> a 'human right'?? Or does it only apply to palestinians?
|>
|> |> |> No. it is EVERYBODY's right. However, when a killer kills, then he is giving
|> |> |> up -willingly or unwillingly - his life's right to the society.
|> |> |> the society represented by the goverment would exercise its duty by
|> |> |> depriving the killer off his life's right.
|>
|> |> So then it's all right for Israel to kill the people who kill Israelis?
|> |> The old 'eye for an eye' thinking? Funny, I thought modern legal systems
|> |> were made to counter exactly that.
|>
|> So what do you expect me to tell you to tell you, Master of Wsidom,
|> ^^^
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------
|> If you insist on giving me names/titles I did not ask for you could at
|> least spell them correctly. /sigh.
That was only to confuse you! (ha ha ha hey )
|> when you are intentionally neglecting the MOST important fact that
|> the whole israeli presence in the occupied territories is ILLEGITIMATE,
|> and hence ALL their actions, their courts, their laws are illegitimate on
|> the ground of occupied territories.
|>
|> No, I am _not_ neglecting that, I'm merely asking you whether the existance
|> of Israeli citicens in the WB or in Gaza invalidates those individuals right
^^^^^^^ are you trying to retaliate and confuse me here.
|> to live, a (as you so eloquently put it) human right. We can get back to the
|> question of which law should be used in the territories later. Also, you have
|> not adressed my question if the israelis also have human rights.
First, my above statement doesnot say that "the existence of israeli citizens
in the WB revoke their right of life" but it says "the israeli occupation
of the WB revoke the right of life for some/most its citizens - basically
revokes the right of for its military men". Clearly, occupation is an
undeclared war; during war, attacks against military targets are fully legitimate.
Secondly, surely israeli have human rights, but they ask their goverment to
protect it by withdrawing from the occupied terretories, not by further oppressing
Palestinean human rights.
|> What do you expect me to tell you, Master of Wisdom, when I did explain my
|> point in the post, that you "responded to". The point is that since Israel
|> is occupying then it is automatically depriving itself from some of its rights
|> to the Occupied Palestineans, which is exactly similar the automatic
|> deprivation of a killer from his right of life to the society.
|>
|> If a state can deprive all it's citizens of human rights by its actions, then
|> tell me why _any_ human living today should have any rights at all?
Because not all states are like Israel, as oppressive, as ignorant, or as tyrant.
|> |> |> What kind of rights and how much would be deprived is another issue?
|> |> |> The answer is to be found in a certain system such as International law,
|> |> |> US law, Israeli law ,...
|> |>[deleted, Jonas was throwing up-not for real so you can stick to the screen]
|> |> |> It seems that the US law -represented by US State dept in this case-
|> |> |> is looking to the other way around when violence occurs in occupied territories.
|> |> |> Anyway, as for Hamas, then obviously they turned to the islamic system.
|>
|> |> And which system do you propose we use to solve the ME problem?
|>
|> The question is NOT which system would solve the ME problem. Why ? because
|> any system can solve it.
|> The laws of minister Sharon says kick Palestineans out of here (all palestine).
|>
|> I asked for which system should be used, that will preserve human rights for
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> all people involved. I assumed that was obvious, but I won't repeat that
|> mistake. Now that I have straightened that out, I'm eagerly awaiting your
|> reply.
So you agree that that an israeli solution wouldnot preserve human rights.
(i am understanding this from your first statement in this paragraph).
|> Joseph Weitz (administrator responsible for Jewish colonization)
|> said it best when writing in his diary in 1940:
|> "Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both
|> peoples together in this country.... We shall not achieve our goal
|> ^^^ ^^^
|> of being an independent people with the Arabs in this small country.
|> The only solution is a Palestine, at least Western Palestine (west of
|> the Jordan river) without Arabs.... And there is no other way than
|> to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighbouring countries, to
|> transfer all of them; not one village, not one tribe, should be
|> left.... Only after this transfer will the country be able to
|> absorb the millions of our own brethren. There is no other way out."
|> DAVAR, 29 September, 1967
|> ("Courtesy" of Marc Afifi)
|>
|> Just a question: If we are to disregard the rather obvious references to
|> getting Israel out of ME one way or the other in both PLO covenant and HAMAS
|> charter (that's the english translations, if you have other information I'd
|> be interested to have you translate it) why should we give any credence to
|> a _private_ paper even older? I'm not going to get into the question if he
|> wrote the above, but it's fairly obvious all parties in the conflict have
|> their share of fanatics. Guess what..? Those are not the people that will
|> make any lasting peace in the region. [more deleted stuff]
Exactly, you are right. I guess that the problem is that the israeli goverment
is full with men like Joseph Weitz.
|> "We" and "our" either refers to Zionists or Jews (i donot know which).
|>
|> Well, i can give you an answer, you Master of Wisdom, I will NOT suggest the
|> imperialist israeli system for solving the ME problem !
|>
|> I think that is fair enough .
|>
|> No, that is _not_ an answer, since I asked for a system that could solve
|> the problem. You said any could be used, then you provided a contradiction.
Above you wrote that you understood what i meant (underlined by ^ ):
any system can be used to solve the conflict , but not any system would
resolve it JUSTLY.
|> Guess where that takes your logic? To never-never land.
You are proving yourself as a " ". First you understood what i meant, but then
you claim you didnot so to claim a contradiction in my logic. Too bad for you,
the Master of Wisdom.
|> "The greatest problem of Zionism is Arab children".
|> -Rabbi Shoham.
|>
|> Oh, and by the way, let me add that these cute quotes you put at the end are
|> a real bummer, when I try giving your posts any credit.
Why do you feel ashamed by things and facts that you believe in , if you were a
Zionists. If you believe in Zionist codes and acts, well i feel sorry for you,
because the same Rabbi Shoham had said "Yes, Zionism is racism".
If you feel ashamed and bothered by the Zionist codes, then drop Zionism.
If you are not Zionist, why are you bothered then. You should join me in
condemning these racist Zionist codes and acts.
Hasan
|> Jonas Flygare,
|
4005 | From: matt@physics16.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern)
Subject: Re: The state of justice
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (Theoretical Physics Group)
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In-reply-to: jfc@athena.mit.edu's message of 16 Apr 1993 21:05:46 GMT
In article <1qn73aINNmq9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) writes:
> I recommend the book "Adams _v_ Texas", the story of a man (Adams) who
> was sentenced to death for a crime he didn't commit. Most of the book
> is the story of the long appeals process, and the problems and delays
> caused by not being able to introduce new evidence in certain courts.
And I recommend the movie _The Thin Blue Line_, which is about the
same case. Not as much legal detail, but still an excellent film. It
shows how very easy it is to come up with seemingly conclusive
evidence against someone whom you think is guilty.
--
Matthew Austern Maybe we can eventually make language a
matt@physics.berkeley.edu complete impediment to understanding.
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4006 | From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: Why not concentrate on child molesters?
Article-I.D.: optilink.15213
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 20
In article <7166@pdxgate.UUCP>, a0cb@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Chris Bertholf) writes:
> MCARTWR@auvm.american.edu (Martina Cartwright) writes:
# #The official and legal term for rape is "the crime of forcing a FEMALE
# #to submit to sexual intercourse."
#
# Please, supply me with some references. I was not aware that all states
# had the word "FEMALE" in the rape statutes. I am sure others are surprised
# as well. I know thats how it works in practice (nice-n-fair, NOT!!), but
# was unaware that it was in the statutes as applying to FEMALES only,
# uniformly throughout the U.S.
#
# -Chris
There may be some confusion here. The Uniform Crime Reports program
run by the FBI defines rape as a female victim only crime -- even
though some states have the laws de-sexed. I suspect that this causes
male victims of rape to be left out of the UCR data.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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4007 | From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Internet Discussion List
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Lines: 17
In article <1qc5f0$3ad@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> bparker@uafhp..uark.edu (Brian Parker) writes:
> Hello world of Motorcyles lovers/soon-to-be-lovers!
>I have started a discussion list on the internet for people interested in
>talking Bikes! We discuss anything and everything. If you are interested in
>joining, drop me a line. Since it really isn't a 'list', what we do is if you
>have a post, you send it to me and I distribute it to everyone. C'mon...join
>and enjoy!
Huh? Did this guy just invent wreck.motorcycles?
Curious minds want to know.
Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org KotdohL KotWitDoDL 1KSPI=22.85
DoD #0709 doh #0000000004 & AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
Columbus, Ohio USA
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4008 | From: davec@silicon.csci.csusb.edu (Dave Choweller)
Subject: Re: Genocide is Caused by Atheism
Organization: California State University, San Bernardino
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In article <1qif1g$fp3@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>In article <1qialf$p2m@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>|In article <1qi921$egl@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
[stuff deleted...]
>||> To the newsgroup at large, how about this for a deal: recognise that what
>||> happened in former Communist Russia has as much bearing on the validity
>||> of atheism as has the doings of sundry theists on the validity of their
>||> theism. That's zip, nada, none. The fallacy is known as ad hominem, and
>||> it's an old one. It should be in the Holy FAQ, in the Book of Constructing
>||> a Logical Argument :-)
>|
>|Apart from not making a lot of sense, this is wrong. There
>|is no "atheist creed" that taught any communist what to do "in
>|the name of atheism". There clearly are theistic creeds and
>|instructions on how to act for theists. They all madly
>|conflict with one another, but that's another issue.
>
>Lack of instructions on how to act might also be evil.
That's like saying that, since mathematics includes no instructions on
how to act, it is evil. Atheism is not a moral system, so why should
it speak of instructions on how to act? *Atheism is simply lack of
belief in God*.
Plenty of theists
>think so. So one could argue the case for "atheism causes whatever
>I didn't like about the former USSR" with as much validity as "theism
>causes genocide" - that is to say, no validity at all.
I think the argument that a particular theist system causes genocide
can be made more convincingly than an argument that atheism causes genocide.
This is because theist systems contain instructions on how to act,
and one or more of these can be shown to cause genocide. However, since
the atheist set of instructions is the null set, how can you show that
atheism causes genocide?
--
David Choweller (davec@silicon.csci.csusb.edu)
There are scores of thousands of human insects who are
ready at a moment's notice to reveal the Will of God on
every possible subject. --George Bernard Shaw.
--
There are scores of thousands of human insects who are
ready at a moment's notice to reveal the Will of God on
every possible subject. --George Bernard Shaw.
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4009 | From: "David R. Sacco" <dsav+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Spreading Christianity (Re: Christian Extremist Kills Doctor)
Organization: Misc. student, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Not to be too snide about it, but I think this Christianity must
be a very convenient religion, very maliable and suitable for
any occassion since it seems one can take it any way one wants
to go with it and follow whichever bits one pleases and
reinterpret the bits that don't match with one's desires. It
is, in fact, so convenient that, were I capable of believing
in a god, I might consider going for some brand of Christianity.
The only difficulty left then, of course, is picking which sect
to join. There are just so many.
Dean Kaflowitz
Yes, Christianity is convenient. Following the teachings of Jesus
Christ and the Ten Commandments is convenient. Trying to love in a
hateful world is convenient. Turning the other cheek is convenient. So
convenient that it is burdensome at times.
Dave.
=============================================================
--There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke. (Bob Dylan)
--Never let school interfere with your education. (Mark Twain)
--Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. (Mark Twain)
--TACT is getting your point across without stabbing someone with it.
--Subtlety is saying what you mean, then getting out of the way before
it is understood.
--"If you were happy every day of your life you wouldn't be a human
being, you'd be a game show host." (taken from the movie "Heathers.")
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4010 | From: ajaffe@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Andrew Jaffe)
Subject: Key definitions in Emacs + X
Organization: University of Chicago, Astronomy and Astrophysics
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Hi.
I use Emacs and I want to customize my keyboard better.
When I set up stuff in my .emacs with a keymap and define-keys,
I can only access certain of the keys on my X-Terminal's
keyboard. I can't get e.g. F10, Home, End, PgUp, PgDn; they all
seem to have either the same or no keycode. I have a feeling
this can't be fixed in emacs itself, but that I need to do some
xmodmap stuff. Can someone help me?
By the way, I've checked the X-FAQ and posted a similar message
to gnu.emacs.help to no response.
Currently I have the following in my .emacs file (inside a 'cond'):
((string-match "^xterm" (getenv "TERM"))
;; done by aj 8/92. I don't know what most of this does...
(defvar xterm-map (make-sparse-keymap) "Keymap for xterm special keys")
(define-key esc-map "[" 'xterm-prefix)
(fset 'xterm-prefix xterm-map)
;;Keys F1 to F12
(define-key xterm-map "224z" 'goto-line) ;F1
(define-key xterm-map "225z" 'what-line) ;F2
(define-key xterm-map "226z" 'rmail) ;F3
(define-key xterm-map "227z" 'replace-string) ;F4
(define-key xterm-map "228z" 'end-of-line) ;F5
(define-key xterm-map "229z" 'kill-line) ;F6
(define-key xterm-map "230z" 'yank) ;F7
(define-key xterm-map "231z" 'beginning-of-line);F8
(define-key xterm-map "232z" 'end-of-line) ;F9
(define-key xterm-map "192z" 'scroll-down) ;F11
(define-key xterm-map "193z" 'scroll-up) ;F12
;;Keys F10, up, down, etc. ??????? can't get the keys
(define-key xterm-map "-1z" 'set-mark-command))
)
--
Andrew Jaffe ajaffe@oddjob.uchicago.edu
Dep't of Astronomy and Astrophysics, U. Chicago
5640 S. Ellis Ave (312) 702-6041
Chicago, IL 60637-1433 (312) 702-8212 FAX
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4011 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: The scenario and genocide staged by the Armenians 78 years ago.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
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The scenario and genocide staged by the Armenians 78 years ago in
x-Soviet Armenia is being reenacted again - this time in Azerbaijan.
The stories of survivors of Karabag massacre are in 'Milliyet' today.
69 year old Hatin Nine telling:
-''My Twin grandchildren were cut to pieces in front of my eyes. They told
me: We won't kill you. But the babies have to die in front of your eyes.''
72 year old Huseyin Ibrahimoglu:
- ''Our Turkish village in Khojalu Town was blown up in two hours.
While killing children and babies mercilessly they said: You are
Turks, you must die.''
28 year old Gulsum Huseyin:
- ''They bayonetted my 3 year old daughter in her stomach in front of
my eyes.''
Are these stories lies? Have the eye-witnesses been day-dreaming?
Were these stories forged by Turkish journalists in the region?
The nonsense of such a claim is clear from the writings of British
Journalists, too. Two days before we had quoted from a Sunday Times
article. They[British] reported the events in Karabag even before
Turkish journalists. What is more here are the pictures. Pictures
of people who were bayonetted, whose eyes were gouged, ears cut off.
Even the Armenian Radio couldn't claim these "lies." They are saying
"exaggeration." That means ''somethings'' have happened but the
situation is not as bad as reported. Perhaps that village of Khojalu
town was destroyed in 4 hours, instead of 2... Or Gulsum Huseyin's
3 year old daughter was bayonetted in her chest instead of stomach...
The massacre is clearly seen with all its dimensions. The effects of
this massacre on Karabag and environs cannot be reduced by any word.
Some of the western press', led by some French Newspapers, ability
to ''close their eyes'' is nothing but complicity in this massacre.
Yesterday we gave samples from Le Figaro. Until yesterday's print
no news about the real events in Karabag were printed. So were the
French TV channels.. The subject they considered related to Karabag
was ''The necessity of protecting Armenians against Azeri attacks.''
The age we are living in is termed a human rights age. There are lots
of organizations such as United Nations and CSCE(Conference on Security
and Cooperation in Europe), and rules, all designed to fight against human
rights violations. International reactions must be made with international
cooperation. With support of everybody and every organization claiming
to be civilized.
Could there be a more serious human rights violation than that of the
right to live -and with such levels of barbarity and cruelty-? Where
is the cooperation? Where are the reactions? And the intellectuals,
journalists, writers, TV stations of certain western countries such
as France who are fast to claim leadership of "human rights?"
Where are you?
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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4012 | Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
From: Raj Ramnarace <ACPS6992@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Subject: Maple Leafs Update
Lines: 8
For those Leaf fans who are concerned, the following players are slated for
return on Thursday's Winnipeg-Toronto game :
Peter Zezel, John Cullen
Mark Osborne and Dave Ellett are questionable to return on Thursday.
All regular players who were injured (including Dimitri Mironov) should be back
for Saturday's home game against the Flyers.
|
4013 | From: keithley@apple.com (Craig Keithley)
Subject: Re: Moonbase race, NASA resources, why?
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Lines: 44
In article <C5w5un.Bpq@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry
Spencer) wrote:
>
> The major component of any realistic plan to go to the Moon cheaply (for
> more than a brief visit, at least) is low-cost transport to Earth orbit.
> For what it costs to launch one Shuttle or two Titan IVs, you can develop
> a new launch system that will be considerably cheaper. (Delta Clipper
> might be a bit more expensive than this, perhaps, but there are less
> ambitious ways of bringing costs down quite a bit.)
Ah, there's the rub. And a catch-22 to boot. For the purposes of a
contest, you'll probably not compete if'n you can't afford the ride to get
there. And although lower priced delivery systems might be doable, without
demand its doubtful that anyone will develop a new system. Course, if a
low priced system existed, there might be demand...
I wonder if there might be some way of structuring a contest to encourage
low cost payload delivery systems. The accounting methods would probably
be the hardest to work out. For example, would you allow Rockwell to
'loan' you the engines? And so forth...
> Any plan for doing
> sustained lunar exploration using existing launch systems is wasting
> money in a big way.
>
This depends on the how soon the new launch system comes on line. In other
words, perhaps a great deal of worthwhile technology (life support,
navigation, etc.) could be developed prior to a low cost launch system.
You wouldn't want to use the expensive stuff forever, but I'd hate to see
folks waiting to do anything until a low cost Mac, oops, I mean launch
system comes on line.
I guess I'd simplify this to say that 'waste' is a slippery concept. If
your goal is manned lunar exploration in the next 5 years, then perhaps its
not 'wasted' money. If your goal is to explore the moon for under $500
million, then you should put of this exploration for a decade or so.
Craig
Craig Keithley |"I don't remember, I don't recall,
Apple Computer, Inc. |I got no memory of anything at all"
keithley@apple.com |Peter Gabriel, Third Album (1980)
|
4014 | From: matt@centerline.com (Matt Landau)
Subject: Re: Asynchronous X Windows?
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Lines: 42
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.1.32
In <1382.9304261508@zztop.dps.co.uk> gerard@dps.co.UK (Gerard O'Driscoll) writes:
>>> No, it isn't. It is the "X Window System", or "X11", or "X" or any of
>>> a number of other designations accepted by the X Consortium....
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as "X Windows" or "X Window", despite the repeated
>>> misuse of the forms by the trade rags.
>I used to think this way, and not just about X. For example, incorrect
>English constructs such as "its raining" or "it's window id" annoy me.
>However, there comes a time when popular usage starts to dictate the way
>things really are in the world.
Well, yes and no. I don't particularly want this discussion to spark
a lengthy debate, but I do think it's worth pointing out that "popular
usage" is not always sufficient excuse.
In this case, for example, I think an appropriate parallel may be found
in the pronunciation of proper names: if people commonly misspelled or
mispronounced your name, would you feel compelled to change it? Probably
not.
The same is true of X. "The X Window System", "X", "X11", and related
monickers are proper names in the same sense that any product name is a
proper name. In fact, some of them are *trademarked* names. The fact
that many people get them wrong is largely beside the point.
As for the trade publications that promulgate things like "X Window" or
"X.windows" or any of the other nonsensical variants one often sees,
consider the fact that these publications are supposedly written by
*journalists*. Would you trust the facts of a journalist who couldn't
be bothered to get the name of his/her source right? Would you trust
a product review by someone who got the name of the product wrong?
Popular usage is as it may be, but I for one am all for holding people
who claim to be journalists to a higher standard of correctness.
>Indeed, the fact that X won out over NeWS
>was really down to popular opinion (I know, we all think it's(!) technically
>superior as well!).
X11 technically superior to NeWS? Well, in *some* alternate universe
perhaps ...
|
4015 | From: adykes@jpradley.jpr.com (Al Dykes)
Subject: I need a definition of the SPEC and Dhrystone benchmarks
Organization: Unix in NYC
Distribution: na
Lines: 15
I need definitions of the SPEC and Dhrystone benchmarks. Any background
material would also be welcome.
If anyoneand email something to me or point me to an anonymous FTP server
I'd appreciate it.
Thanks.
Al Dykes
--------
adykes@jpr.com
adykes@ad.com
|
4016 | From: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
Subject: Need advice with doctor-patient relationship problem
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
Lines: 13
ML> From: libman@hsc.usc.edu (Marlena Libman)
ML> I need advice with a situation which occurred between me and a physican
ML> which upset me.
ML> My questions: (1) Should I continue to have this doctor manage my care?
That's easy: No. You wouldn't take your computer into a repair
shop where they were rude to you, even if they were competent in
their business. Why would you take your own body into a "repair
shop" where the "repairman" has such a bad attitude?
---
. SLMR 2.1 . E-mail: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
|
4017 | From: deweeset@ptolemy2.rdrc.rpi.edu (Thomas E. DeWeese)
Subject: Finding equally spaced points on a sphere.
Article-I.D.: rpi.4615trd
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Lines: 8
Nntp-Posting-Host: ptolemy2.rdrc.rpi.edu
Hello, I know that this has been discussed before. But at the time
I didn't need to teselate a sphere. So if any kind soul has the code
or the alg, that was finally decided upon as the best (as I recall it
was a nice, iterative subdivision meathod), I would be very
appreciative.
Thomas DeWeese
deweeset@rdrc.rpi.edu
|
4018 | From: mppa3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Alan Richardson)
Subject: Re: How 2 Get Fontname from Fonstruct ???
Organization: University of Sussex
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr20.105725@narya.gsfc.nasa.gov>
dealy@narya.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian Dealy - CSC) writes:
>
>Anyone know how an application can retrieve the name of the font from
>an application given an XFontStruct *?
>Would XGetFontProperty work if I passed XA_FONT_NAME?
>anyone know details of this? Thanks in advance.
>Brian
>
>--
>Brian Dealy |301-572-8267| It not knowing where it's at
>dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing
>!uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy | | where it's not at... B.Dylan
Try this:
char *name=NULL;
unsigned long value;
if(XGetFontProperty(font, XA_FONT, value))
name=XGetAtomName(dpy, value);
where dpy is your Display connection and font your XFontStruct pointer.
--
Alan Richardson, * "You don't have to be *
School of Maths & Physical Sciences, * old to be wise" *
Univ. of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QH, ENGLAND * ******Judas Priest*****
UK: mppa3@uk.ac.sussex.syma elsewhere: mppa3@syma.sussex.ac.uk
|
4019 | From: fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk)
Subject: Re: Science and methodology (was: Homeopathy ... tradition?)
Organization: University of Rochester
Lines: 53
In article <C5L9ws.Jn2@unx.sas.com> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
>
>In article <1993Apr16.155919.28040@cs.rochester.edu>, fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk) writes:
>|> genes. This fantasy led him to sequence samples of the band and carry out
>|> binding assays. The result was a well-conserved, 400 or so bp, sequence
>
>But why do you characterize this as a "flight of fancy" or a "fantasy"?
The fantasy was that he had found something of fundamental importance to
one of the hot questions of the day ('77). He really had very little
reason to believe it, other than raw hope. By fantasy, I certainly don't
mean Velikovskian manias.
>some other theory or domain). I would offer some rather well known examples
>such as Toricelli's Puy de Dome experiment done for the sake of his
>"sea of air" hypothesis.
I'm not familiar with the history of this experiment, although, arguably,
I should be.
>"surprising"?
>Well, given the *prior* explanations of the phenomena involved it certainly
>be counted as so. Was the theory constructed (and the experiment designed)
>out of "perfectly rational grounds"? Well, there was a pretty successful and
>well know theory of fluids. The analogy to fluids by Toricelli is explicit.
>The novelty was in thinking of air as a fluid (but this was *quite* a novelty
>at the time). Was the theory interesting? Yes. Was it "new"? Well, one
>could argue that it was merely the extension of an existing theory to a new
>domain, but I think this begs certain questions. We can debate that if you
>like.
I think that it is enough if his contemporaries found the result surprising.
That's not what I'd quibble about. What I'd like to know are Toricelli's
reasons for doing his experiment; not the post hoc _constructed_ reasons,
but the thoughts in his head as he considered the problem. It may be
impossible to know much about Toricelli's thoughts; that's too bad if
it is so. One of Root-Bernstein's services to science is that he has gone
rooting about in Pasteur's and Fleming's (and other people's) notes, and has
discovered some surprising clues about their motivations. Pasteur never
publicly admitted his plan to create mirror-image life, but the dreams are
right there in his notebooks (finally public after many years), ready for
anyone to read. And I and my friends often have the most ridiculous
reasons for pursuing results; one of my best came because I was mad at
a colleague for a poorly-written claim (I disproved the claim).
Of course, Toricelli's case may be an example of a rarety: where the
fantasy not only motivates the experiment, but turns out to be right
in the end.
Mark
--
Mark A. Fulk University of Rochester
Computer Science Department fulk@cs.rochester.edu
|
4020 | From: tak@leland.Stanford.EDU (David William Budd)
Subject: Re: Rodney King Trial, Civil Rights Violations, Double Jeopardy
Distribution: us
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Lines: 53
In article <C50puL.CL4@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
>In <1993Apr2.182942.22445@husc3.harvard.edu> spanagel@husc11.harvard.edu (David Spanagel) writes:
>
>|Furthermore, what are the specific charges against the four LAPD officers?
>|Which civil rights or laws are they accused of violating?
>
>I believe it is a general charge, that is no specific right is mentioned.
I don't think that this is accurate. I believe, and could be wrong, that
there IS a specific right allegedly to have been violated, like the
14th or due process or whatever.
>|What about double jeopardy? Has there been any concern that a verdict
>|against Koon, et al. might be overturned upon appeal because they're being tried
>|again for the same actions? (I thought I heard something on the news about
>|this.)
>
>The SS has previously ruled that since the seperate governments were in
>essence seperate sovereigns, then double jeopardy does not apply.
>
>(If this is true, then could defendents also be tried under city and
>county governments?)
>
>This mornings paper said that the ACLU has decided to reinstate its
>opposition to this kind of thing. They had earlier suspended their
>opposition while they examined the King case. There might be hope
>for the ACLU after all.
>--
Double jeopardy does not apply, but not for the reasons you quote. Double
jeopardy states that a person may not be tried twice on the same charge.
However, the police are not on trial for the crime of excessive force
or assault. They are NOW on trial for the DIFFERENT crime of violating
Mr. King's civil rights.
AS for the city and county or state trying you more than once,
it most likely will not happen. This is because cities and states
have separate laws governing behaviour. For example, in some states,
it is an offence to carry marijuana, but not a city offence. Also,
I think murder is against federal, but not some state laws.
===============================================================================
! \
! 1-------1
! \ 1_______1 __1__ "And my mind was filled with wonder,
! \ 1_______1 / ____1____ when the evening headlines read:
! ! \ / / 1__|_|__1 'Richard Cory went home last night,
! ! \/ / --------- and put a bullet through his head.'"
! / \/ | | \ \
| / \____/|
|
4021 | From: luriem@alleg.edu(Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Organization: Allegheny College
In article <C5Jsxs.1M0@unix.amherst.edu> jlroffma@unix.amherst.edu (JOSHUA
LAWRENCE ROFFMAN) writes:
> : >baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
> : >with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
> : >maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
> : >it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
> : >humor us. Thanks for your help.
> :
>
>
> John Lowenstein is definately NOT Jewish. Many in Baltimore thought he
was...
> especially after he told the Baltimore _Jewish Times_ so...but later he
> admitted that it was a joke.
Stanky is NOT Jewish, at least, I doubt it. A lot of jewish people don't
have Jewish names.
|
4022 | From: marcbg@feenix.metronet.com (Marc Grant)
Subject: Adult Chicken Pox
Organization: Tx Metronet Communications Services, Dallas Tx
Distribution: usa
Lines: 13
I am 35 and am recovering from a case of Chicken Pox which I contracted
from my 5 year old daughter. I have quite a few of these little puppies
all over my bod. At what point am I no longer infectious? My physician's
office says when they are all scabbed over. Is this true?
Is there any medications which can promote healing of the pox? Speed up
healing? Please e-mail replies, and thanks in advance.
--
|Marc Grant | Internet: marcbg@feenix.metronet.com |
|POB 850472 | Amateur Radio Station N5MEI |
|Richardson, TX 75085| Voice/Fax: 214-231-3998 |
- .... .- - ... .- .-.. .-.. ..-. --- .-.. -.- ...
|
4023 | From: r4938585@joplin.biosci.arizona.edu (Doug Roberts)
Subject: Re: Sandberg, Runs, RBIs (was: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series)
Organization: University of Arizona, Biotechnology, Tucson
Lines: 17
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: joplin.biosci.arizona.edu
In article <C5JqBy.M7A@news.rich.bnr.ca> bratt@crchh7a9.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Bratt) writes:
>RBIs and Runs scored are the two most important offensive statistics. You
>can talk about OBP and SLG% all you want, but the fact remains:
>
> The team that scores more runs wins the game!
> ---------------------------------------------
>Flame Away
>-- John Bratt
OK, you asked for it!
I guess that doesn't bode well for the Cubs then does it?
Doug Roberts - "Willing to trade Frank Bolick for a bag of used baseballs!"
- "Let's go Expos!"
|
4024 | From: mikea@zorba.gvg.tek.com (Michael P. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Temper tantrums from the 1960's
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
Lines: 28
OK Phil, you're right. So far the "evidence" suggests that Nixon was a victim
of overzealous underlings and Kennedy was a womanizing disgust-o-blob with
a dash of megalomania. After crushing the CIA and FBI who's to say Kennedy
wouldn't have created his own version of American Friendly Fascism?
Unfortunately however, we don't have all the evidence. So far this nation's
citizens have been privy to about 12 hours of the total 4,000 hours of Nixon's
tapes. What's on the rest of those babies? Some archivists have alluded that
there is "evidence" to suggest that Nixon and his cronies, including George
Bush, were aware of the plot to murder Kennedy before he was shot in Dallas.
Ask your local D.A. what the charges are for the above crime.
And so I must ask you, Phil me putz, when all this shit finally comes out
when you and I are old men, I would appreciate the privilege of sticking a pole
up your ass and parading you down Main Street with a sign on your chest:
"I was an Apologist for the American Fascist Regime circa 1944 -- 2010"
(How's that for a lovely Brecht-ian image:-)
There, that ought to get a reaction. Unless I'm in his killfile this week...
MPA
|
4025 | From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
Subject: Re: Eumemics (was: Eugenics)
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: saltillo.cs.utexas.edu
Summary: Lousy idea.
-*----
Cross-posted and with followups directed to talk.politics.theory.
-*----
In article <79700@cup.portal.com> mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
> Indeed, we are today a nation at risk! The threat is not from bad genes,
> but bad memes! Memes are the basic units of culture, as opposed to genes
> which are the units of genetics.
>
> We must expand the public-health laws to include quarantine of people
> with harmful memes. ...
In other words, we should jail people who say the wrong
things. In this advocacy, we can see a truly ugly meme.
Does Mark Robert Thorson advocate jailing himself?
Russell
|
4026 | From: U52885@uicvm.uic.edu
Subject: Re: Gateway 2000 486DX/33 too noisy
Article-I.D.: uicvm.93096.135225U52885
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
Lines: 15
In article <114152@bu.edu>, lcai@acs2.bu.edu says:
>
>I just received my Gateway 2000 486DX/33 mini-desktop system.
>The first thing I noticed when I plugged in the power cord is the
>noise that comes from the fan. In fact I can hear the noise in
If your Gateway is equipped with a Western hard drive, then the noise
is probably coming from there and not from the fan. The Western drives
are notoriously noisy. On the other hand, if you don't have a Western
drive, then maybe it is the fan. There's not alot to do about it except
insulate around the cpu somehow.
Barry Aldridge
U of I/Chicago & 24-Hour Bar-B-Q
Standard Old Disclaimer
|
4027 | From: skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok)
Subject: Re: x86 ~= 680x0 ?? (How do they compare?)
Organization: Inst. f. Thermodynamik u. Waermetechnik (ITW), U. of Stuttgart, FRG
Lines: 19
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de
In article <C5nq9C.LLp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rvenkate@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Ravikuma Venkateswar) writes:
[... stuff deleted]
>
>Besides, for 0 wait state performance, you'd need a cache anyway. I mean,
>who uses a processor that runs at the speed of 80ns SIMMs? Note that this
>memory speed corresponds to a clock speed of 12.5 MHz.
>
[more stuff deleted...]
How do you calculate that figure? I'd assume even in personal computers
the board designers would use bank switching to (optimistically)
quadruple the access speed or am I missing something here?
HSK
--
Sie singen das alte Entsagungslied, das Eiapopeia vom Himmel,
womit man beruhigt, wenn es greint, das Volk, den grossen Luemmel.
Ein neues Lied, ein besseres Lied, oh Freunde, will ich Euch dichten,
Wir wollen hier auf Erden schon das Himmelreich errichten. ... H. Heine
|
4028 | From: mlee@eng.sdsu.edu (Mike Lee)
Subject: MPEG for x-windows MONO needed.
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
Lines: 4
NNTP-Posting-Host: eng.sdsu.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Hello, and thank you for reading this request. I have a Mpeg viewer for x-windows and it did not run because I was running it on a monochrome monitor. I need the mono-driver for mpeg_play.
Please post the location of the file or better yet, e-mail me at mlee@eng.sdsu.edu.
|
4029 | From: mknewman@blkbox.COM (Marc Kraker Newman)
Subject: Unsubscribe pancamo@blkbox.comm
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 5
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Please unsubscribe pancamo@blkbox.com. This user has become inactive and I
wish to discontinue his participation in this mailing list.
Marc Newman
mknewman@lkbox.com
|
4030 | From: lmh@juliet.caltech.edu (Henling, Lawrence M.)
Subject: Christian's need for Christianity (was ...)
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Lines: 26
In article <Apr.16.23.17.40.1993.1861@geneva.rutgers.edu<, mussack@austin.ibm.com writes...
<< < For example: why does the universe exist at all?
<Whether there is a "why" or not we have to find it. This is Pascal's(?) wager.
<If there is no why and we spend our lives searching, then we have merely
<wasted our lives, which were meaningless anyway. If there is a why and we
..
<Suppose the universe is 5 billion years old, and suppose it lasts another
<5 billion years. Suppose I live to be 100. That is nothing, that is so small
<that it is scary. So by searching for the "why" along with my friends here
<on earth if nothing else we aren't so scared.
I find this view of Christianity to be quite disheartening and sad.
The idea that life only has meaning or importance if there is a Creator
does not seem like much of a basis for belief.
And the logic is also appalling: "God must exist because I want Him to."
I have heard this line of "reasoning" before and wonder how prevalent
it is. Certainly in modern society many people are convinced life is
hopeless (or so the pollsters and newscasts state), but I don't see
where this is a good reason to become religious. If you want 'meaning'
why not just join a cult, such as in Waco? The leaders will give you
the security blanket you desire.
larry henling lmh@shakes.caltech.edu
|
4031 | From: erich@fi.gs.com (Erich Schlaikjer)
Subject: character recognition
Nntp-Posting-Host: raider
Reply-To: schlae@aron01.gs.com
Organization: Goldman, Sachs & Co
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 7
Is there any program available (free or otherwise) for taking a tiff or gif
or some other bitmapped file and turning it (or parts of it) into ascii
characters?
DOS, OS/2 or platform independent programs if possible.
Thanks.
|
4032 | From: m_klein@pavo.concordia.ca (CorelMARK!)
Subject: Re: Players Rushed to Majors
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Nntp-Posting-Host: pavo1.concordia.ca
Organization: Concordia University
Lines: 6
I missed the original post, but aren't the Expos rushing alomost their
entire team this year? I am from Montreal, and am a fan, but geez, the
Expos rank 27th in salary (only the Rockies trail) and someone at
the average age would probably be in first year University!
CorelMARK!
|
4033 | From: mbkolodn@unix.amherst.edu (MICHAEL BRIAN KOLODNER)
Subject: How many israeli soldiers does it take to
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
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Boy that was really humorous. I'm impressed by your incredible senses of wit,
sarcasm and propriety. Mind if I post jokes about your mother?
|
4034 | From: arussell@austin.ibm.com (AG Russell)
Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip)
Originator: arussell@pal500.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin
Lines: 29
In article <1993Apr21.001230.26384@lokkur.dexter.mi.us>, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) writes:
> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
>
> >Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack
> >has 2^80 possible keys. Let's assume a brute-force engine like that
> >hypothesized for DES: 1 microsecond per trial, 1 million chips. That's
> >10^12 trials per second, or about 38,000 years for 2^80 trials. Well,
> >maybe they can get chips running at one trial per nanosecond, and build
> >a machine with 10 million chips. Sure -- only 3.8 years for each solution.
>
> Normally I'd be the last to argue with Steve . . . but shouldn't that
> read "3.8 years for *all* solutions". I mean, if we can imagine the
> machine that does 1 trial/nanosecond, we can imagine the storage medium
> that could index and archive it.
At the company I worked for previously, I received a file that was des encryped
and the person that had sent it, went on vaction. Rather than wait two weeks
I set up a straight frontal attack with one key at a time. It only took two(2)
days to crack the file. No, I don't have any faith in DES.
A.G.
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4035 | From: mas@Cadence.COM (Masud Khan)
Subject: Re: The Inimitable Rushdie
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Lines: 48
In article <16BAFA9D9.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
>
>
>Yes, but, fortunately, religions have been replaced by systems
>that value Human Rights higher.
Secular laws seem to value criminal life more than the victims life,
Islam places the rights of society and every member in it above
the rights of the individual, this is what I call true human rights.
>
>By the way, do you actually support the claim of precedence of Islamic
>Law? In case you do, what about the laws of other religions?
As a Muslim living in a non-Muslim land I am bound by the laws of the land
I live in, but I do not disregard Islamic Law it still remains a part of my
life. If the laws of a land conflict with my religion to such an extent
that I am prevented from being allowed to practise my religion then I must
leave the land. So in a way Islamic law does take precendence over secular law
but we are instructed to follow the laws of the land that we live in too.
In an Islamic state (one ruled by a Khaliphate) religions other than Islam
are allowed to rule by their own religious laws provided they don't affect
the genral population and don't come into direct conflict with state
laws, Dhimmis (non-Muslim population) are exempt from most Islamic laws
on religion, such as fighting in a Jihad, giving Zakat (alms giving)
etc but are given the benefit of these two acts such as Military
protection and if they are poor they will receive Zakat.
>
>If not, what has it got to do with Rushdie? And has anyone reliable
>information if he hadn't left Islam according to Islamic law?
>Or is the burden of proof on him?
> Benedikt
After the Fatwa didn't Rushdie re-affirm his faith in Islam, didn't
he go thru' a very public "conversion" to Islam? If so he is binding
himself to Islamic Laws. He has to publicly renounce in his belief in Islam
so the burden is on him.
Mas
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4036 | From: georgeh@gjhsun (George H)
Subject: Re: Octopus in Detroit?
Organization: Michigan State University
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: gjhsun.cl.msu.edu
Harold Zazula <DLMQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>I was watching the Detroit-Minnesota game last night and thought I saw an
>octopus on the ice after Ysebaert scored to tie the game at two. What gives?
>(is there some custom to throw octopuses on the ice in Detroit?)
It is a long standing good luck Redwing's tradition to throw an octopus
on the ice during a Stanley Cup game. They say it dates back to '52
at the Olympia when the Wings became the 1st team (I think) to sweep
the cup in 8 games. A lot hardet to throw one from Joe Louis seats
than from the old Olympia balcony, though.
Funniest I ever saw was when some Tiger fans threw one on the field
during a Detroit/Toronto baseball game ... I was living in California
and the folks I was watching with had never heard of hockey and were
incredulous when I recognized the octopus BEFORE the camera closeup !!
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4037 | From: lvc@cbnews.cb.att.com (Larry Cipriani)
Subject: Crimestrike Alert for Texas
Organization: Ideology Busters, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Keywords: crime strike
Lines: 69
Fellow Texans and Members of Crime Strike in Texas
Crime Strike in Texas has a loosely knit coalition with most
Victims Rights Groups in Texas. We ask that you write a
letter protesting the release of the following murderer.
This letter should be written to :
Raven Kazen - Victims Services
Board of Pardons and Paroles
P.O. Box 13401 - Capital Station
Austin, Texas 78711
The letter should be written if at all possible on RED PAPER
as that was agreed on at one of our first meetings . It
represents the coalition and all of its parts as well as the
heart ache of those left behind and the blood spilled by
these criminals. The letter should have only one name on it
so it can be filed in the folder of that criminal waiting for
his next try at parole.
List of Criminals:
Today we have only one parole to protest , On October 4,
1990, Mark Steven Hughes rendered numerous blows to the head
of James Allen Pompa . Ten month old James went into a coma
and died two days later.
On July 8, 1992, Mark Steven Hughes pled guilty to Injury to
a Child and received a ten-year sentence. According to Texas
law, Mark became eligible for parole on January 4, 1992 --
six months before he was even sentenced!
Would you join us in strongly protesting the release from
prison of Mark Steven Hughes, who beat a baby to death .
Mark Steven Hughes - beat to death the baby boy of
Russel Pompa -- Reference Mark Steven Hughes - TDC# 633546
Mark your envelope "PROTEST LETTER" on the front and back.
A typical letter is indicated on the next page ---
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Irvin Wilson - Volunteer Crime Strike Texas
Date: April 13, 1993
Raven Kazen - Victims Services
Board of Pardons and Paroles
P.O. Box 13401 - Capital Station
Austin , Texas 78711
I protest the parole of Mark Steven Hughes TDC#633546, who,
murdered James Son of Russel Pompa.
He should be kept in prison for his full sentence and not be
released at any time prior to his full sentence for any
reason.
Irvin Wilson
Houston, Texas
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Larry Cipriani -- l.v.cipriani@att.com
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4038 | From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: about Eliz C Prophet
Organization: Rice University
Lines: 33
In article <Apr.21.03.27.03.1993.1388@geneva.rutgers.edu> JEK@cu.nih.gov writes:
>Rob Butera asks about a book called THE LOST YEARS OF JESUS, by
>Elizabeth Clare Prophet.
> ...
>marriage, if I remember aright), base almost all their teachings on
>messages they have allegedly received by telepathy from Tibet. I
>should be surprised if the book you mention has any scholarly basis.
Actually, there was very little to the book. First of all looking at
the titles of her other books, I would personally consider her
to be engaged in a bizarre form of Christian-like mysticism
heavily influenced by eastern philosphies (great titles like
_The_Astrology_of_the_4_Horsemen_).
However, other than the Chapter One into, there's nothing original,
biased, or even new this book. It is basically a collection of previously
published works by those who claim that there exist Buddhist and Hindu
stories that Christ visited India and China (he was known as Issa)
during the period from late teens to age 30.
Conclusion: the book actually lets you come to your own view by presenting
a summary of various published works and letters, all of which you
could verify independently. It includes refutations to such works as
well. Therefore, even if you think she is theologically warped, this
book is a nice reference summary for the interested.
--
Rob Butera |
ECE Grad Student | "Only sick music makes money today"
Rice University |
Houston, TX 77054 | - Nietzsche, 1888
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4039 | From: william@fractl.tn.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: ABOLISH SELECTIVE SERVICE
Organization: Dept of TAM Cornell Univ. Ithaca, NY
Lines: 19
Reply-To: william@fractl.tn.cornell.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: fractl.tn.cornell.edu
In article <1993Apr15.215747.17331@m5.harvard.edu>, borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden) writes:
>The Selective Service Registration should be abolished. To start with, the
>draft is immoral. Whether you agree with that or not, we don't have one now,
>and military experts agree that the quality of the armed forces is superior
>with a volunteer army than with draftees. Finally, the government has us
>on many lists in many computers (the IRS, Social Security Admistration and
>Motor Vehicle Registries to name a few) and it can find us if it needs to.
>Maintaining yet another list of people is an utter waste of money and time.
>Let's axe this whole department, and reduce the deficit a little bit.
>
>
> - Dave Borden
> borden@m5.harvard.edu
You selfish little bastard. Afraid you might have to sacrafice somthing
for your country. What someone not approve a lone for you ? To bad.
What is immoral is: people like you and the current president who don't
have any idea why this country still exists after 200+ years.
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4040 | Organization: University of Notre Dame - Office of Univ. Computing
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Phillies
<1993Apr16.060540.27397@adobe.com>
<1993Apr17.020347.9554@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com>
Lines: 26
In article <1993Apr17.020347.9554@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com>,
prg@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com (Phil Gunsul) says:
>
>I try to edit this newsgroup and feed it to one of the local elementary ,
>schools
>they have a group of students that just love baseball and are learning to use
>computers, but I'm telling you, it's gotten to the point that I don't even
>edit
>the files anymore, just read them and throw out the trash... And thanks to
>all
>you people that think it's wonderful to include a swear word or two in your
>signature files, that's really nice... I have to read the whole article and
>then toss it out because of the .sig.
duh, why not just chop out the .sig?
bob vesterman.
ps: hey kids, take all those pictures of dead presidents out of your
parents' wallets and mail them to:
bob vesterman
c/o dept. of mathematics
university of notre dame
notre dame, indiana 46556
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4041 | From: philc@macs.ee.mcgill.ca (Phil Crawley)
Subject: Read only if going to ISCAS93 in Chicago
Keywords: Soccer, ISCAS93
Lines: 20
Nntp-Posting-Host: kirk.ee.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University - MACS Laboratory, Montreal, CANADA.
This is message is only of interest to those going to
International Symposium on Circuits and Systems that is being
held in Chicago this May.
I checking to see if there is any people out there who would be
interested in getting together for a pickup game of soccer during
the off hours of the conference. If so could you e-mail me at:
philc@macs.ee.mcgill.ca
I'll bring a ball. If you know someone who is going to the
conference and you know that they are avid soccer players
please pass on this message to them. Also if someone in
Chicago is going to the conference please let me know if
there is any field near the hotel where we can play.
Thanks. Bye.
Philip Crawley
|
4042 | From: jian@coos.dartmouth.edu (Jian Lu)
Subject: Grayscale Printer
Summary: image printer under $5000
Distribution: na
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Lines: 6
We are interested in purchasing a grayscale printer that offers a good
resoltuion for grayscale medical images. Can anybody give me some
recommendations on these products in the market, in particular, those
under $5000?
Thank for the advice.
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4043 | From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Lines: 63
In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
>I will be surprised if this post makes it past the censors,
>but here goes:
>
>Monday, 19 April, 1993 13:30 EDT
>
> MURDER MOST FOUL!!
>
>CNN is reporting as I write this that the ATF has ignited all
>the buildings of the Branch Dividian ranch near Waco, TX. The
>lies from ATF say "holes were made in the walls and 'non-lethal' tear
>gas pumped in". A few minutes after this started the whole thing went up.
>ALL buildings are aflame. NO ONE HAS ESCAPED. I think it obvious that
>the ATF used armored flame-thrower vehicles to pump in unlit
>napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
Actually if 'a few minutes' translates into 6 hours, you have it
right. BUT you (and I guess your single-source news agency CNN)
failed to mention the Davidians pouring kerosene all over and lighting it in plain
view.
>THIS IS MURDER!
Well, small-scale Jim Jones type suicide with fire instead of kool-aid.
>
>ATF MURDERERS! BUTCHERS!!
Sorry, guy, you got it wrong. ATF was pumping tear gas into the compound.
The Branch Davidians (going along with their apocolyptic faith) set their
own compound on fire killing all but 9 or so. No children survived.
>THIS IS GENOCIDAL MASS-SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN!
Self-slaughter, anyway. I pity the children who were to young to be able
to make a conscious choice.
>I have predicted this from the start, but God, it sickens me to see
>it happen. I had hoped I was wrong. I had hoped that there was
>still some shred of the America I grew up with, and loved, left
>alive. I was wrong. The Nazis have won.
You are wrong. Thank goodness. I would suggest, however, that you take
a deep breath, and wait 30 minutes or so before posting. Also make sure
your facts are correct before making your allegations(sp.).
>I REPEAT, AS OF THIS TIME THERE ARE **NO SURVIVORS**!
You repeated wrong. There were 9.
>God help us all.
God help the Branch Davidians.
>PLEASE CROSSPOST -- DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THE SLAUGHTER OF THE CHILDREN!
NO DON'T!!!! THERE IS WAY TOO MUCH OF THIS CRAP BEING CROSSPOSTED ALL OVER
CREATION AS IT IS!!!!!!
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4044 | From: tomh@metrics.com (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: Re: top 10 reasons why i love CR (not for the humor impaired)
Organization: Software Metrics Inc.
Distribution: na
Lines: 19
CHINTS@ISCS.NUS.SG writes:
> Here are "another" ten reasons why we should all love CR
> 10. Car salesmen love their new car buying service
> [...]
> 7. Car Salesmen/rec.auto readers turned into "expert" statistics critics
> [...]
> 5. Lucky owners of CR unreliable cars who say "Mine never had a problem"
> 4. Those same owners joining the sceptics a few months later
> 3. And later subscribing to CR and taking it soooo seriously
> 2. And later on buying a CR "idealized family sedan"
And my number 1:
1. The spectacle of the religious fervour of the CR "true believers".
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[ "stick your index fingers into both corners of your mouth. now pull ]
[ up. that's how the corrado makes you feel." -- car, january '93 ]
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4045 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: To be exact, 2.5 million Muslims were exterminated by the Armenians.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 287
In article <lt88p0INN2ql@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>1. So, did the Turks kill the Armenians?
So, did the Jews kill the Germans?
You even make Armenians laugh.
"An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the
systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of
the independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at
least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The
memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and
eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in
1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound."
(Rachel A. Bortnick - The Jewish Times - June 21, 1990)
>2. Or was it the Armenians who massacred the Turks?
Yes. To be exact, Armenians slaughtered 2.5 million Muslim people between
1914 and 1920.
Source #1: McCarthy, J., "Muslims and Minorities, The Population of Ottoman
Anatolia and the End of the Empire," New York University Press,
New York, 1983, pp. 133-144.
Source #2: Hovannisian, Richard G., "Armenia on the Road to Independence,
1918. University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles),
1967, p. 13.
Source: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918.
University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.
"The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the
area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population
of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were
Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem.
Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third
of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the
Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan
uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians
as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897,
however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the
guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000
inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character
notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian
Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the
southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia."
(See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of
Transcaucasia).
In 1920, '0' percent Turk.
"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as
ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work
of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village.
Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts
into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable
and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets
completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They
found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border
into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole
length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to
Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain
plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of
Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for
howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the
scattered bones of the dead."
Ohanus Appressian
"Men Are Like That"
p. 202.
SOME OF THE REFERENCES FROM EMINENT AUTHORS IN THE FIELD OF MIDDLE-EASTERN
HISTORY AND EYEWITNESSES OF THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE OF 2.5 MILLION MUSLIMS
1. "The Armenian Revolutionary Movement" by Louise Nalbandian,
University of California Press, Berkeley, Los Angeles, 1975
2. "Diplomacy of Imperialism 1890-1902" by William I. Lenger, Professor
of History, Harward University, Boston, Alfred A. Knopt, New York, 1951
3. "Turkey in Europe" by Sir Charles Elliot,
Edward & Arnold, London, 1900
4. "The Chatnam House Version and Other Middle-Eastern Studies" by
Elie Kedouri, Praeger Publishers, New York, Washington, 1972
5. "The Rising Crescent" by Ernest Jackh,
Farrar & Reinhart, Inc., New York & Toronto, 1944
6. "Spiritual and Political Evolutions in Islam" by Felix Valyi,
Mogan, Paul, Trench & Truebner & Co., London, 1925
7. "The Struggle for Power in Moslem Asia" by E. Alexander Powell,
The Century Co., New York, London, 1924
8. "Struggle for Transcaucasia" by Feruz Kazemzadeh,
Yale University Press, New Haven, Conn., 1951
9. "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey" (2 volumes) by
Stanford J. Shaw, Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, New York,
Melbourne, 1977
10."The Western Question in Greece and Turkey" by Arnold J. Toynbee,
Constable & Co., Ltd., London, Bombay & Sydney, 1922
11."The Caliph's Last Heritage" by Sir Mark Sykes,
Macmillan & Co., London, 1915
12."Men Are Like That" by Leonard A. Hartill,
Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, 1928
13."Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22" by A. Rawlinson,
Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925
14."World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn,
Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952
15."From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne" by Avetis Aharonian,
The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17
(Spring 1964)
16."Armenia on the Road to Independence" by Richard G. Hovanessian,
University of California Press, Berkeley, California, 1967
17."The Rebirth of Turkey" by Clair Price,
Thomas Seltzer, New York, 1923
18."Caucasian Battlefields" by W. B. Allen & Paul Muratoff,
Cambridge, 1953
19."Partition of Turkey" by Harry N. Howard,
H. Fertig, New York, 1966
20."The King-Crane Commission" by Harry N. Howard,
Beirut, 1963
21."United States Policy and Partition of Turkey" by Laurence Evans,
John Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, 1965
22."British Documents Related to Turkish War of Independence" by Gothard
Jaeschke
1. Neside Kerem Demir, "Bir Sehid Anasina Tarihin Soyledikleri:
Turkiye'nin Ermeni Meselesi," Hulbe Basim ve Yayin T.A.S.,
Ankara, 1982. (Ingilizce Birinci Baski: 1980, "The Armenian
Question in Turkey")
2. Veysel Eroglu, "Ermeni Mezalimi," Sebil Yayinevi, Istanbul, 1978.
3. A. Alper Gazigiray, "Osmanlilardan Gunumuze Kadar Vesikalarla Ermeni
Teroru'nun Kaynaklari," Gozen Kitabevi, Istanbul, 1982.
4. Dr. Kirzioglu M. Fahrettin, "Kars Ili ve Cevresinde Ermeni Mezalimi,"
Kardes Matbaasi, Ankara, 1970.
T.C. Basbakanlik Osmanli Arsivi, Babiali, Istanbul:
a) Yildiz Esas Evraki
b) Yildiz Perakende
c) Irade Defterleri
d) Cemaat-i Gayr-i Muslime Defterleri
e) Meclisi Vukela Mazbatalari
f) Dahiliye Nezareti, Kalem-i Mahsus Dosyalari
g) Dahiliye Nezareti, Sifre Defterleri
h) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Siyasi Kartonlar
i) Babiali Evrak Odasi: Muhimme Kartonlari
T.C. Disisleri Bakanligi, Hazine-i Evrak, Defterdarlik
a) Harb-i Umumi
b) Muteferrik Kartonlar
British Archives:
a) Parliamentary Papers (Hansard): Commons/Lords
b) Foreign Office: Confidential Print: Various Collections
c) Foreign Office: 424/239-253: Turkey: Correspondence - Annual Reports
d) Foreign Office: 608
e) Foreign Office: 371, Political Intelligence: General Correspondence
f) Foreign Office: 800/240, Ryan Papers
g) Foreign Office: 800/151, Curzon Papers
h) Foreign Office: 839: The Eastern Conference: Lausanne. 53 files
India Office Records and Library, Blackfriars Road, London.
a) L/Political and Security/10/851-855 (five boxes), "Turkey: Treaty of
Peace: 1918-1923"
b) L/P & S/10/1031, "Near East: Turkey and Greece: Lausanne Conference,
1921-1923"
c) L/P & S/11/154
d) L/P & S/11/1031
French Archives
Archives du ministere des Affaires entrangeres, Quai d'Orsay, Paris.
a) Documents Diplomatiques: Affaires Armeniens: 1895-1914 Collections
b) Guerre: 1914-1918: Turquie: Legion d'Orient.
c) Levant, 1918-1929: Armenie.
Official Publications, Published Documents, Diplomatic Correspondence,
Agreements, Minutes and Others
A. Turkey (The Ottoman Empire and The Republic of Turkey)
Akarli, E. (ed.); "Belgelerle Tanzimat," (istanbul, 1978).
(Gn. Kur., ATASE); "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi," V. XXXI (81),
(Dec. 1982).
----; "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri Dergisi," V. XXXII (83),
(Dec. 1983).
Hocaoglu, M. (ed.); "Ittihad-i Anasir-i Osmaniye Heyeti Nizamnamesi,"
(Istanbul, 1912).
Meray, S. L. (trans./ed.) "Lozan Baris Konferansi: Tutanaklar-Belgeler,"
(Ankara, 1978), 2 vols.
Meray, S. L./O. Olcay (ed.); "Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Cokus Belgeleri;
Mondros Birakismasi, Sevr Andlasmasi, Ilgili Belgeler," (Ankara, 1977).
(Osmanli Devleti, Dahiliye Nezareti); "Aspirations et Agissements
Revolutionnaires des Comites Armeniens avant et apres la proclamation
de la Constitution Ottomane," (Istanbul, 1917).
----; "Ermeni Komitelerinin Amal ve Hareket-i Ihtilaliyesi: Ilan-i
Mesrutiyetten Evvel ve Sonra," (Istanbul, 1916).
----; "Idare-i Umumiye ve Vilayet Kanunu," (Istanbul, 1913).
----; "Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. I (Istanbul, 1914).
----; "Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. II (Istanbul, 1915).
----; "Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. III (Istanbul, 1916).
----; "Muharrerat-i Umumiye Mecmuasi, V. IV (Istanbul, 1917).
(Osmanli Devleti, Hariciye Nezareti); "Imtiyazat-i Ecnebiyye'nin
Lagvindan Dolayi Memurine Teblig Olunacak Talimatname," (Istanbul, 1915).
(Osmanli Devleti, Harbiye Nezareti); "Islam Ahalinin Ducar Olduklari
Mezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat," (Istanbul, 1919).
----; (IV. Ordu) "Aliye Divan-i Harbi Orfisinde Tedkik Olunan Mesele-yi
Siyasiye Hakkinda Izahat," (Istanbul, 1916).
Turkozu, H. K. (ed.); "Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi,"
(Ankara, 1982).
----; "Turkiye Buyuk Millet Meclisi Gizli Celse Zabitlari," (Ankara, 1985),
4 vols.
Russia
Adamof, E. E. (ed.); "Sovyet Devlet Arsivi Belgeleriyle Anadolu'nun
Taksimi Plani," (tran. H. Rahmi, ed. H. Mutlucag), (Istanbul, 1972).
Altinay, A. R.; "Iki Komite - Iki Kital," (Istanbul, 1919).
----; "Kafkas Yollarinda Hatiralar ve Tahassusler," (Istanbul, 1919).
----; "Turkiye'de Katolik Propagandasi," Turk tarihi Encumeni Mecmuasi,
V. XIV/82-5 (Sept. 1924).
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Akboy, C.; "Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi, V. I: Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun
Siyasi ve Askeri Hazirliklari ve Harbe Girisi," (Gn. Kur., Ankara, 1970).
Akgun, S.; "General Harbord'un Anadolu Gezisi ve (Ermeni Meselesi'ne Dair)
Raporu: Kurtulus Savasi Baslangicinda," (Istanbul, 1981).
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Basar, Z. (ed.);"Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz," (Ankara, 1974).
----; "Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler - Derlemeler," (Ankara, 1978).
Belen, F.; "Birinci Dunya Harbinde Turk Harbi," (Ankara, 1964).
Deliorman, A.; "Turklere Karsi Ermeni Komitecileri," (Istanbul, 1980).
Ege, N. N. (ed.); "Prens Sabahaddin: Hayati ve Ilmi Mudafaalari,"
(Istanbul, 1977).
Ercikan, A.; "Ermenilerin Bizans ve Osmanli Imparatorluklarindaki Rolleri,"
(Ankara, 1949).
Gurun, K.; 'Ermeni Sorunu yahut bir sorun nasil yaratilir?', "Turk Tarihinde
Ermeniler Sempozyumu," (Izmir, 1983).
Hocaoglu, M.; "Arsiv Vesikalariyla Tarihte Ermeni Mezalimi ve Ermeniler,"
(Istanbul, 1976).
Karal, E. S.; "Osmanli Tarihi," V. V (1983, 4th ed.); V. VI (1976, 2nd ed.);
V. VII (1977, 2nd ed.); V. VIII (1983, 2nd ed.) Ankara.
Kurat, Y. T.; "Osmanli Imparatorlugu'nun Paylasilmasi," (Ankara, 1976).
Orel, S./S. Yuca; "Ermenilerce Talat Pasa'ya Atfedilen Telgraflarin
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'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
|
4046 | From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
Subject: Re: Good Grief! (was Re: Candida Albicans: what is it?)
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire
Lines: 29
[reply to aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelin Aldridge)]
>Medicine is not a totally scientific endevour.
The acquisition of scientific knowledge is completely scientific. The
application of that knowledge in individual cases may be more art than
science.
>There are diseases that haven't been described yet and the root cause
>of many diseases now described aren't known. (Read a book on
>gastroenterology sometime if you want to see a lot of them.) After
>scientific methods have run out then it's the patient's freedom of
>choice to try any experimental method they choose. And it's well
>recognized by many doctors that medicine doesn't have all the answers.
Certainly we don't have all the answers. The question is, what is the
most reliable means of acquiring further medical knowledge? The
scientific method has proven itself to be reliable. The *only* reason
alternative therapies are shunned by physicians is that their
practitioners refuse to submit their theories to rigorous scientific
scrutiny, insisting that "tradition" or anecdotal evidence are
sufficient. These have been shown many times in the past to be very
unreliable ways of acquiring reliable knowledge. Crook's ideas have
never been backed up by scientific evidence. His unwillingness to do
good science makes the rest of us doubt the veracity of his contentions.
David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu). Midelfort Clinic, Eau Claire WI
This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell
|
4047 | Subject: ** Need Advice ** (about Tech Works etc.)
From: choo@ecs.umass.edu
Lines: 19
Greetings!!
I planning to upgrade my Mac IIsi:
(1) from the present 5Megs to 17Megs;
and (2) add a Math-Coprocessor.
Technology Works, of Austin (Texas) comes quite highly recommended by
some Mac magazines. I was just wonderring if anyone could share with me
anything about Tech Works (both good and bad experiences); or give any advice
about other mail-order companies that I may consider.
Your reply would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Sincerely
Peter Choo
choo@sigma.ecs.umass.edu
|
4048 | From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
Subject: Re: Vandalizing the sky
Organization: Lick Observatory/UCO
Lines: 23
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.ucsc.edu
In-reply-to: flb@flb.optiplan.fi's message of Fri, 23 Apr 1993 12:01:38 GMT
In article <C5xr2w.Dnw.1@cs.cmu.edu> flb@flb.optiplan.fi ("F.Baube[tm]") writes:
From: "Phil G. Fraering" <pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu>
> Finally: this isn't the Bronze Age, [..]
> please try to remember that there are more human activities than
> those practiced by the Warrior Caste, the Farming Caste, and the
> Priesthood.
Right, the Profiting Caste is blessed by God, and may
freely blare its presence in the evening twilight ..
The Priesthood has never quite forgiven
the merchants (aka Profiting Caste [sic])
for their rise to power, has it?
;-)
* Steinn Sigurdsson Lick Observatory *
* steinly@lick.ucsc.edu "standard disclaimer" *
* Ya know... you penguin types offend me. ... *
* My Gosh... Life is offensive!! *
* Offensensitivity. - BB 1984 *
|
4049 | From: landis@stsci.edu (Robert Landis,S202,,)
Subject: Re: Space Debris
Reply-To: landis@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD
Lines: 14
Another fish to check out is Richard Rast -- he works
for Lockheed Missiles, but is on-site at NASA Johnson.
Nick Johnson at Kaman Sciences in Colo. Spgs and his
friend, Darren McKnight at Kaman in Alexandria, VA.
Good luck.
R. Landis
"Behind every general is his wife.... and...
behind every Hillary is a Bill . ."
|
4050 | From: ameline@vnet.IBM.COM (Ian Ameline)
Subject: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks only
Organization: C-Set/2 Development, IBM Canada Lab.
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
Lines: 33
I suspect that this clipper thing could backfire on the Gov in a
big hurry. I expect that products using these chips will socket them
rather than soldering them, since once the keys are handed over by the
escrow agencies, the chip is so much garbage, and will need to be
replaced. I expect that someone will come along with a pin compatible
chip that uses secure encryption -- possibly even disguised so that it's
not possible to tell it from the clipper chip until you try to use the
2 backdoor keys.
If I were to manufacture such a chip, as part of my marketing
strategy, I would try to subvert one or both escrow agencies either
through bribes or industrial espionage -- and then publicize the fact.
(doing my best not to be connected with such activities -- which would
likely not be legal :-) Publicly discrediting the escrow agencies would
go quite far towards creating a market for a secure alternative.
I also believe that someone will reverse engineer the clipper chip,
and knowlege of the algorithm will likely be fairly widespread. Any back-
doors or weaknesses would further discredit the scheme, and help grow
the market demand for a secure alternative.
I believe that the company that provides such an alternative will make
few friends in the LE community, but lots of money. I also believe that
the government will do it's best to make such plug replacements illegal.
I expect that they will see the same success in limiting the availability
of such alternatives as they have seen in limiting the availability of
certain illicit drugs -- ie. little to none.
Regards,
Ian Ameline.
(Of course the ramblings above have nothing to do with my employer, nor
do I necessarily advocate doing any of the things described here -- I
just believe that the events above are likely to take place)
|
4051 | From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (Clinton/Gore '92)
Subject: CLINTON: President's Remarks on Trip to Baltimore 4.5.93
Organization: Project GNU, Free Software Foundation,
675 Mass. Ave., Cambridge, MA 02139, USA +1 (617) 876-3296
Lines: 74
NNTP-Posting-Host: life.ai.mit.edu
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
____________________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 5, 1993
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
EN ROUTE TO CAMDEN YARDS FOR ORIOLES OPENING DAY GAME
MARC Train
En Route to Camden Yards
11:45 A.M. EDT
Q Mr. President, what do you think of Jesse Jackson's
protest today?
THE PRESIDENT: I think it's an informational protest.
I think it's fine. The owners put out a statement few days ago,
which they say was the first step in, you know, efforts to increase
minority ownership and minority increases in management. I think we
should. I'm encouraged by Don Baylor's appointment out in Colorado.
And I think it's time to make a move on that front. So, I think it's
a legitimate issue, and I think it's -- like I said, it's an
informational picket and not an attempt to get people not to go to
the game. So, I think it's good.
Q Do you think they're moving fast enough?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that it was a good first
step. And I think you'll see some movement now. And I think it's an
issue that deserves some attention, and they're obviously going to
give it some. And I think that Reverend Jackson being out there will
highlight the issue. So I think it's fine.
Q Mr. President, how about the logjam in the Senate
on the economic stimulus plan? Do you think they'll be able to break
that and get cloture?
THE PRESIDENT: I don't know, we're working at it. I
mean, it's a classic -- there was an article in the paper today, one
of the papers I saw, which pretty well summed it up. They said, you
know, this is a -- it's just a political power play. In the Senate
the majority does not rule. It's not like the country. It's not
like the -- it's not like the House. If the minority chooses, they
can stop majority rule. And that's what they're doing. There are a
lot of Republican senators who have told people that they might vote
for the stimulus program but there's enormous partisan political
pressure not to do it.
And, of course, what it means is that in this time when
no new jobs are being created, even though there seems to be an
economic recovery, it means that for political purposes they're
willing to deny jobs to places like Baltimore and Dallas and Houston
and Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and Portland and Seattle. It's very
sad. I mean, the block grant program was designed to create jobs in
a hurry based on local priorities, and it's one that the Republicans
had always championed. Just about the only Democrat champions of the
program were people like me who were out there at the grassroots
level, governors and senators. I just think it's real sad that they
have chosen to exert the minority muscle in a way that will keep
Americans out of work. I think it's a mistake.
THE PRESS: Thank you.
END11:50 A.M. EDT
|
4052 | From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: Re: Soundblaster IRQ and Port settings
Lines: 22
Nntp-Posting-Host: pittpa.cray.com
Organization: Cray Research Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
The Cybard (dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu) wrote:
: uzun@netcom.com (William Roger Uzun) writes:
: >I have a SoundBlaster board in a 486-SX PC, and I have it
: >jumpered to IRQ 7, port 220h. Will this conflict with my
: >parallel port? I just have an IDE controller, a multi-IO board
: >with 2ser, 1Par port and a VGA board. Should I choose
: >another IRQ besides 7? Or is IRQ 7 safe to use on 486 Motherboards?
: Recently I was adding a modem to my computer, and I noticed that LPT1 uses
: IRQ-7 and so does my SB card (220h). I've never had a problem, but I'm
: just wondering why not. I thought this would cause a conflict.
I would also like an explanation of this. If anyone can explain
why the SB Pro and LPT 1 can share an IRQ, please do so.
Thanks
--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot
huot@cray.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
4053 | From: g_waugaman@nac.enet.dec.com (Glenn R. Waugaman)
Subject: Re: I've found the secret!
Article-I.D.: nntpd.1993Apr15.193907.24177
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Lines: 23
In article <1993Apr15.161730.9903@cs.cornell.edu>, tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes...
>
>Why are the Red Sox in first place? Eight games into the season, they
>already have two wins each from Clemens and Viola. Clemens starts
>again tonight, on three days rest.
>
>What's up? Are the Sox going with a four-man rotation? Is this why
>Hesketh was used in relief last night?
Clemens is going on his normal four days' rest (last pitched Saturday).
Hesketh only pitched one inning yesterday afternoon, his first outing
since an aborted 1-1/3 inning start 6 days before, so he should be plenty
rested to go in his expected turn this Saturday, as the 5th starter. Not
that this is a good thing, of course. I'd like to see a well-managed
four-man rotation with this team...
---
Glenn Waugaman
Digital Equipment Corporation
Littleton, MA
g_waugaman@nac.enet.dec.com
---
|
4054 | From: nmp@mfltd.co.uk (Nic Percival (x5336))
Subject: Non-turbo speed
Reply-To: nmp@mfltd.co.uk
Organization: Micro Focus Ltd, Newbury, England
Lines: 18
Just taken delivery of a 66MHz 486 DX2 machine, and very nice it is too.
One query - the landmark speed when turbo is on is 230 or something MHz
- thats not the problem. The problem is the speed when turbo is off. Its
7 MHz. The equivalent in car terms is having a nice Porsche with a button
that turns it into a skateboard.
Does anyone have a clue as to what determines the relative performance of
turbo vs non-turbo?? I would like to set it to give a landmark speed of
about 30 or 40 MHz with turbo off.
Cheers,
--
+-- Nic Percival ----------+- "Well that was a piece of cake, eh K-9?" -----+
| Micro Focus, Newbury. | "Piece of cake master? Radial slice of baked |
| (0635) 32646 Ext 5336. | confection... - coefficient of relevance to |
+-- nmp@mfltd.co.uk -------+- Key to Time: zero." - Dr. Who ---------------+
|
4055 | From: cca20@keele.ac.uk (J. Atherton)
Subject: serial printing in Windows
Lines: 12
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: seq1.cc.keele.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
I am getting Garbled output when serial printing thru Windows & works
etc. This has occurred on several systems and goes if a LaserJet 4 is
used. I suspect that there is no need for handshaking in this case due
to the capacity (memory/speed) of it. There is no problem printing from
DOS. Are there any obvious tweaks I'm missing. I'm sure its not JUST
me with this problem. Thanks for reading.... John Atherton
|
4056 | From: don@bcars194.bnr.ca (Don Skanes)
Subject: Jeep Laredo experiences
Keywords: Jeep, Laredo
Nntp-Posting-Host: bcars194
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Lines: 10
I have been looking at buying a 1989 Jeep Laredo and was wondering
if anyone had any bad or good experiences with this model. Is it
all that much different than the other YJs?
It looks, feels and sounds like a nice vehicle even thought the
price is rather steep for an '89 (12K Canadian).
--
don@bnr.ca
|
4057 | From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: How many read sci.space?
Lines: 11
Nntp-Posting-Host: skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
There are actually only two of us. I do Henry, Fred, Tommy and Mary. Oh yeah,
this isn't my real name, I'm a bald headed space baby.
--
Dillon Pyron | The opinions expressed are those of the
TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here) |
(214)492-4656 (when I'm home) |Texans: Vote NO on Robin Hood. We need
pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com |solutions, not gestures.
PADI DM-54909 |
|
4058 | From: dleonard@wixer.bga.com (Dale Leonard)
Subject: Trade Mac SE system for Color Mac???
Article-I.D.: wixer.1993Apr16.181557.11264
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Lines: 31
Ok I want to get a color Mac I don't care if it is an LC or a Mac II or
what but I want to go to a color machine. I'd prefer to trade my
present Mac SE system plus some cash or other equipment for the color
system as right now I'm not full of the $$$ to buy a color system
outright.
Here's what my Mac SE system has...
Mac SE 4/20 with internal 800K drive
20 Meg external
External 800K drive
ImageWriter II with 4 color ribbon
Stuff that can go with it......
I've got 3 modems and I'd be willing to give 1 of the 9600's and the
2400 with the system
MultiTech Multimodem II (9600 data/fax)
U.S. Robotics Sportster (9600 data)
Microcom QX/12K (normally will connect at only 2400 as highest
but it will do faster if connected to another Microcom)
The USR and the MultiTech are both brand-new
If interested send me e-mail at dleonard@wixer.bga.com
--
| Primary: | Judy's Stamps (Misc. topical stamps. From Dogs..|
| dleonard@wixer.bga.com | to cats to baseball and many many other subjects|
| Secondary: | For stamp information call Tony Leonard at......|
| dleonard@wixer.cactus.org| (512) 837-0022 This is a business only number!!!|
|
4059 | From: mcguire@cs.utexas.edu (Tommy Marcus McGuire)
Subject: Re: Countersteering_FAQ please post
Article-I.D.: earth.ls1v14INNjml
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Lines: 54
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.cs.utexas.edu
In article <12739@news.duke.edu> infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante) writes:
>In article <05APR93.02678944.0049@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> C70A@UNB.CA (C70A000) writes:
>>In article <C4zKCL.FGC@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Eric@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (93CBR900RR) writes:
>>>Would someone please post the countersteering FAQ...i am having this awful
[...]
>>
>> Ummm, if you push on the right handle of your bike while at speed and
>>your bike turns left, methinks your bike has a problem. When I do it
>
>Really!?
>
>Methinks somethings wrong with _your_ bike.
>
>Perhaps you meant _pull_?
>
>Pushing the right side of my handlebars _will_ send me left.
>
>It should.
>REally.
>
>>on MY bike, I turn right. No wonder you need that FAQ. If I had it
>>I'd send it.
>
>I'm sure others will take up the slack...
>
[...]
>--
>Andy Infante | I sometimes wish that people would put a little more emphasis |
Oh, lord. This is where I came in.
Obcountersteer: For some reason, I've discovered that pulling on the
wrong side of the handlebars (rather than pushing on the other wrong
side, if you get my meaning) provides a feeling of greater control. For
example, rather than pushing on the right side to lean right to turn
right (Hi, Lonny!), pulling on the left side at least until I get leaned
over to the right feels more secure and less counter-intuitive. Maybe
I need psychological help.
Obcountersteer v2.0:Anyone else find it ironic that in the weekend-and-a-
night MSF class, they don't mention countersteering until after the
first day of riding?
-----
Tommy McGuire, who's going to hit his head on door frames the rest of
the evening, leaning into those tight turns....
mcguire@cs.utexas.edu
mcguire@austin.ibm.com
"...I will append an appropriate disclaimer to outgoing public information,
identifying it as personal and as independent of IBM...."
|
4060 | From: kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall)
Subject: Looking for Women's Motorcycle Helmet
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Lines: 11
I'm looking to buy a used motorcycle helmet. I'm interested in a full
face shield, but not necessarily a helmet with the piece around the chin.
Please email me directly.
Janice Kendall kendall@adobe.com ...!{decwrl|sun}!adobe!kendall
ONWARD; THRU THE FOG! (TM)
- Oat Willie's (TM)
|
4061 | Subject: Re: Smiths birthday goal was LEAFS GO ALL THE WAY !!!
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta
Lines: 28
In article <C4wty9.40u@mcs.anl.gov>, mwm@aps.anl.gov (Michael W. McDowell) writes:
> In article 5KL@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca, kwk2chow@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (KEVIN C.) writes:
>> (Thanks for the goals by Steve Smith)
> I don't see why more people don't blame grant fuhr for the goal that smith
> put in his own net, it's common to play the puck back to your own goalie when
> deep in your own end and under little or no pressure from the offensive team.
> If fuhr had been in position the puck would have never crossed the line.
From this account, it doesn't sound like you even saw the goal, Mike. Smith
came out from behind his own net and fired a breakout pass that hit Fuhr in the
back of the leg. Fuhr was backing up at the time and never saw what
happened. The puck went straight off Fuhr's leg and into the net. Fuhr never
had a chance. There was no play back to the goaltender, in fact Perry Berezan
of Calgary had just dumped it in and Smith was retrieving it.
It was unfortunate that it happened; Smith is a nice guy and was only a rookie
at the time, and on his birthday too. But all the blame lies with him. Starting
in pee-wee coaches tell players never to make a cross-ice pass in front of
their own net. Too much chance of having it intercepted, or hitting the
goaltender, or whatever.
And to the people who say that Smith cost the Oilers the series, I can only
say that he certainly didn't cause the team to lose the other three games.
There was no reason for a powerhouse team like Edmonton to be tied late
in the third period of the 7th game of the second round. Everybody on the team
has to take responsibility for them even being in that situation.
Alan
|
4062 | From: mark@ocsmd.ocs.com (Mark Wilson)
Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42 (SILLY)
Organization: Online Computer Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Lines: 20
Mark A. Cartwright (markc@emx.utexas.edu) wrote:
: Well,
:
: 42 is 101010 binary, and who would forget that its the
: answer to the Question of "Life, the Universe, and Everything else."
: That is to quote Douglas Adams in a round about way.
:
: Of course the Question has not yet been discovered...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But it WAS discovered (sort of). The question was "What is 7 times 8?"
When Arthur Dent objected that this was, unfortunately, factually
inaccurate, the effort to discover the question was begun all over.
This last effort was, I believe, likely to take far longer than
the lifespan of the universe, in fact several lifespans of same!
--
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(Try email address mark@ocsmd.ocs.com....)
This file .disclaims everything signed with my .signature, I .mean it!
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|
4063 | From: craw@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Sebastian Filzek)
Subject: IR detector 'cards'???
Summary: IR detector cards..???
Keywords: IR card
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Lines: 23
Hi people..
OK heres my problem....
I keep hearing about these little credit card type of things which
detect IR light....
I believe that you have to 'charge them up' under normal (visible) light
and then if they are exposed to IR light they glow or something like
that...
I think that they are avaliable in the states and even in England, but
alas I live in Australia. Could someone please inform me if I can get
these things over here, and if so where??? and how much???
Also are they really commonly avaliable in the states, and if so, then
how much are they and who sells them (maybe if I cant get one here, I'll
write to one of the companies over seas..)
Anyway.... Thanks in advance...
Sab
93
|
4064 | From: allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan)
Subject: Don Cherry - Coach's Corner summary - April 18, 1993
Nntp-Posting-Host: st-lina.cs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Lines: 68
Here is a summary of Don Cherry's coach's corner from April 18, 1993.
It took place in the first intermission of game 1 of the Montreal-Quebec
series.
Pre-game comments
-----------------
Don's pregame comments were mostly aimed at the goalies... The goalie
who gets back his all-star form (Roy or Hextall) can win the series
for his team.
Eposode Summary
---------------
This episode took place rinkside. Don was holding a hot dog that
he bought from the concession stand.
Ron Maclean started out by showing a cartoon which appeared in the
Toronto Sun. It featured a picture of Don, who just saw his shadow
and proclaimed "Will you look at dat, eh? Means another 6 weeks
of me. Beauty."
Next, Don talked about the hot dog he was holding. According to
him, the hot dogs at the Quebec stadium are the best food in all
the arenas in the NHL.
From there, Don commented on the Quebec-Montreal game. The game
had great flow, because Referee Paul Stewart calls the best game
in the NHL. In contrast, the Calgary-LA game was terrible... All
stop-and-go, over 50 minutes of penalties called against Calgary
by Dan Marouelli. Its getting so that the ref who calls the most
penalties gets to ref in the finals.
Next, Ron showed an old picture of Don, when he was playing for
the Rochester Americans of the AHL. Don recalled some of the
wins that he had in the Quebec arena... during the Memorial cup
and the AHL championships.
Finally, Don and Ron discussed Keenan becoming coach of the
Rangers. The rangers were a talented team who underachieved.
Don feels sorry for temporary coach Ron Smith, who had
several key injuries (to Leetch and Patrick) and goalies who
went cold.
Don had some criticism for the Rangers team... The party's over,
Adolf (Keenan) is there. The Rangers organization will no longer
be a 'country club'.... "NY should be achamed of themselves... If
they go in the tank with Adolf there, they'll be hanging from the
yardarm by their thumbs."
Rating
------
Nothing too special in this episode.
I'll give it a 5.5 out of 10.
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4065 | From: <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: The 'pill' for Deer = No Hunting
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In article <1qfrhbINNo80@cae.cad.gatech.edu>, vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent
Fox) says:
>[...]
>this measure as it will prevent the evil Bambi-killers from hunting,
>and another will fight it for the interference with Nature that it is.
Such a measure would also have another benefit. It would relieve the
various states of the thorny problem of what to do with the hundreds
of millions of dollars hunters pour into the economy annually. I'm
sure that, to attain sure a lofty, humane, liberal and ecologically
(not to mention politically) correct goal, the environmental and animal
rights groups/individuals supporting such a measure would be more than
willing to add their names to a list of supporters seeking increased
taxation to replace these lost revenues. I am equally confident that
these same entities, given their noteworthy record in the area of social
responsibility and respect for private property, would feel morally
and ethically bound to raise the necessary funds to acquire the
hundreds of thousands of acres of land now held in private hands
solely for use as private hunting preserves by the landowner(s). To
do less than this would place these same groups/individuals in
the ethically untenable (to say nothing of environmentally and
politically incorrect) position of sanctioning the logging and
subsequent development and urbanization of these former private
hunting lands, which would no longer be useable by, or of any
benefit to, the landowner(s) in such a capacity.
W. K. Gorman
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4066 | From: garrett@Ingres.COM
Subject: Re: Return of the Know Nothing Party
Summary: The right to know nothing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1
Keywords:
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
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In article <C5JLq3.2BL@wetware.com>, drieux@wetware.com writes...
>In article 23791@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu, ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (David Anderson) writes:
>>In article <C56HDM.945@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>>>But I guess one needs to know a little about the bible,
>>>christianity and american history.....
>>
>>Mt. St. Helens didn't spew such crap. How do you manage,
>>drieux, day in & day out, to keep it up??
>
>So which are you advocating?
>That You know Nothing About American History,
>Or that You Know Nothing About the Bible?
>
>Is this a Restoration of the "Know Nothing" Party?
>
Go easy on him drieux. It is the right of every American to
know nothing about anything.
>ciao
>drieux
>"All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!
>All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!"
> -Last Call of the Wild of the Humour Lemmings
>
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4067 | From: ethridge@crchh403 (Allen Ethridge)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Nntp-Posting-Host: crchh403
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Amanda Walker (amanda@intercon.com) wrote:
: uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes:
: [deletions]
:
: > How can you reconcile the administrations self proclaimed purpose of
: > providing law enforcement with access to encrypted data without making
: > the clipper system the only crypto available in the U.S... ?
:
: The Second and Fourth Amendments do come to mind.
:
I think i heard someplace (misc.legal?, comp.org.eff.talk?) that the courts
have pretty much eliminated the fourth amendment already.
--
allen@well.sf.ca.us Words got me the wound
ethridge@bnr.ca and will get me well,
my opinions are my own if you believe it.
-- Jim Morrison
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4068 | From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: the usual
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In article <viking.734084516@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>>Yes, I am pro-gun, and yes, I do disagree with this statement.
>>Nuclear weapons in and of themselves are dangerous. Radioactive
>>decay of plutonium and uranium, as well as the tritium in the
>>weapon, tends to be somewhat dangerous to living things.
>>(Can you say "neutron flux"?)
> Can you say, "I get more background radiation from living in
>Denver or having an office in a limestone building than I do standing
>next to a power reactor at full power or standing next to a nuclear
>warhead that is armed?" Look up "shielding" in your dictionary. You
>don't need six feet of lead to make decent shielding; your dead skin
>cell layer does an excellent job on alpha particles, and neutrons
>are slowed by mere *water*. What do you think 75% of you is?
But whatever the neutrons hit has a good chance of absorbing the
neutron and becoming radioactive itself. Mostly, that means water
turning into (harmless) heavy water. But some neutrons would
also hit bones, and the resulting harmfull, secondard radioactives
would remain in the body for decades. I think an unshielded nuclear
warhead could reasonably be considered a public health hazard.
As for a shielded warhead, I think a fair amount of maintaince
is required for it to remain safely shielded (e.g. storage in
a dry, temperature-regulated facility, etc...) For private
ownership to be unregulated, I think a single individual must
be able not only to keep the weapon, but keep it in a safe
condition. If any random private citizen could not properly
keep, maintain and store a nuclear weapon, then some regulation
is clearly appropriate.
>> Plus these things have no self-
>>defense purposes. It's kinda hard to justify their use as
>>a militia weapon when at best they are meant for battlefield use
>>(low-yield weapons) or at worst for industrial target obliteration
>>(translation: cities and population centers).
> If the militia has as its job the overthrow of an illegal
>government, they are indeed useful weapons to the militia.
I disagree with this purpose: The job of the militia is to defend
themselves and their community. If you look at the American
revolution as an example, the militias won by seperating themselves
from, and becoming independent of, a repressive government. They
didn't overthrow it, and those communities (Canada and England, for
example) that didn't defend themselves were still under that same
old regime. If the role of the militia were offensive, to go out and
destroy repressive governments, nuclear weapons _might_ be appropriate.
But their jobs is defensive, and nuclear weapons aren't suited
for that.
There is also the question of personal and collective arms: The
Second Amendment definately protects ownership of personal
weapons (since the very nature of the militia requires members
to provide their own arms.) But it isn't clear if it covers
other arms. Certainly, not all members would supply (for example)
a tank, only a few could or (if they were to be used effectively)
should. However, those providing the heavy weapons have a
disproportionate control over the militia and its fierpower.
The militias, as the framers envisioned them, were extremely
democratic: If only 50% of the members supported the cause, only
50% would respond to a muster, and the militia's firepower would
be proportionately reduced. Militia firepower and the popular
will were, therefore, linked. But if a small minority of the
members supplied a large fraction of the firepower (in the
form of heavy weapons) this would all change: The militia's
firepower would depend on the will of a small minority, not
of the general public. Worse, that minority would be quite
different from the general public (at the very least, they
would be much richer.) As a result, I think the nature and
character of the militia requires that each member provide
a roughly equal share of the militia's firepower: His personal
weapons, and some equitable fraction of a squad's heavier firepower.
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
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4069 | From: ada41546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Driftwood)
Subject: Re: Jim Lefebvre is an idiot.
Article-I.D.: news.C51uC6.BL1
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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I totally agree with each point you made. Jose Viscaino looked
like a single A hitter up there. Who swings on 3-1 count with Maddux
pitching and your teams down by a run, and you haven't touched the ball all
day. I also think too much is made of that lefty-righty thing. Watching
the Cubs games I get the feeling Steve Stone knows a lot more about what
the Cubs should be doing than Lefebre does. Harry said it best when he
stated after another terrible Vizcaino at bat-- we can't wait til
Sandberg returns!
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4070 | From: Howard_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Howard Wong)
Subject: Jack Morris
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Lines: 9
As of today, April 17, Jack Morris has lost his first three starts.
However, the Jays are doing well without him and injured Dave Stuart.
This is a credit to the rest of the pitching staff.
Has Jack lost a bit of his edge? What is the worst start Jack Morris has had?
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4071 | From: cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk (Michael C Davis)
Subject: Re: Help
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
Lines: 27
Jon Ogden (jono@mac-ak-24.rtsg.mot.com) wrote:
: It is a dead and useless faith which has no action behind it. Actions
: prove our faith and show the genuineness of it.
A good example of this is Abraham (referred to in the James passage). Hebrews
says that Abraham was justified by faith -- but his faith was demonstrated
through his works (i.e., he obeyed what God told him to do).
Reading Abraham's ``biography'' in Genesis is very instructive. He was a man
beset by *lack* of faith a lot of the time (e.g. lying about Sarah being his
wife on 2 occasions; trying to fulfil God's promise on God's behalf by
copulating with Hagar). . . yet it seems that God didn't evaluate him on the
basis of individual incidents. Abraham is listed as one of the ``heroes of
faith'' in Hebrews 11. i.e., when it really came to the crunch, God declared
Abraham as a man of faith. He believed God's promises.
This gives us confidence. Although real faith demonstrates itself through
works, God is not going to judge us according to our success/failure in
performing works.
``Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy
he saved us, through the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy
Spirit.'' (Titus 3.5)
Amazing Grace! Hallelujah!
--
Michael Davis (cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk)
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4072 | From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks)
Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...)
Summary: Limited governments versus failed governments
Organization: Just a Boomer, Inc.
Lines: 49
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In article <16APR199317110543@rigel.tamu.edu> gmw0622@rigel.tamu.edu (Mr. Grinch) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.170731.8797@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes...
>
>>
>:This is a strawman argument and fails on several grounds. In this case,
>:"limited" and "big" government are not defined. I would point out that
>:Lebanon, Somalia, and the former Yugoslavia are by some definitions nations
>:with "limited" government, while the US, Canada, and nations in Western
>:Europe (where "people would rather live") are often pointed out as
>:nations with "big government" from a libertarian point of view.
>
>Well, let me help by explaining the difference between a linited government
>and a failed government. A limited government has its powers clearly
>circumscribed, but is fully capable of enforcing its decisions within
>those circumscribed areas. A failed government is incapable of
>enforcing its decisions except sporadicly. Two completely different beasts.
Of course, one again faces the question of how one circumscribes government
power (and keeps it circumscribed) in a complex society when it is in the
interest of neither capitalists nor consumers to refrain from using
government power for their own ends. But apart from that little
conundrum...
It would seem that a society with a "failed" government would be an ideal
setting for libertarian ideals to be implemented. Now why do you suppose
that never seems to occur?...
>
>>
>:The argument is not between those who want "limited" government and those
>:who want "unlimited" government. It is between those who believe
>:government regulation in a capitalist economy serves worthwhile ends and
>:those who believe such regulation is neither desirable on empirical
>:grounds nor justifiable on ideological grounds.
>
>
>..."regulation" is such a vauge word...
I wouldn't call it "vague." I'd call it elastic. All "regulation" is
not necessarily the same. By opposing all government regulation, some
libertarians treat every system from a command economy to those that
regulate relatively free markets as identical. That's one reason
many of the rest of us find their analysis to be simplistic.
jsh
>Mr. Grinch
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the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826
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4073 | From: s4lawren@sms.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Playoff predictions
Organization: University of Western Ontario
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smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
> OK, I'll join in the fun and give my playoff predictions:
>
> 1st round:
> ----------
>
> PITT vs NYI: PITT in 4.
> WASH vs NJD: WASH in 6.
>
> BOS vs BUF: BOS in 5.
> QUE vs MON: MON in 7.
>
> CHI vs STL: CHI in 4.
> DET vs TOR: DET in 6.
>
> VAN vs WIN: WIN in 6.
> CAL vs LA: CAL in 5.
>
> 2nd round:
> ----------
>
> PITT vs WASH: PITT in 4.
> BOS vs MON: BOS in 6.
>
> CHI vs DET: CHI in 7.
> WIN vs CAL: CAL in 5.
>
> 3rd round:
> ----------
>
> PITT vs BOS: PITT in 5.
> CHI vs CAL: CHI in 5.
>
> Finals:
> ------
>
> PITT vs CHI: PITT in 5.
>
>
> =============================================
> Walter
>
Not bad, you only got 2 wrong,...
Cal over Chi in 5
and Cal over Pit in 6 (or 7) to take the SC
s4lawren@sms.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
Western Business School -- London, Ontario
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4074 | From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Subject: Re: The battle is joined
Originator: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com
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Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
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In article <1993Apr16.181040.9381@qualcomm.com> karn@servo.qualcomm.com (Phil Karn) writes:
>It looks like Dorothy Denning's wrong-headed ideas have gotten to the
>Administration even sooner than we feared.
If the Administration is this far along, is it possible that the
government been working on it for a while and has been using the
Dennings to prime the pump, so to speak, or as the Judas goat?
Whether paid off, just gullible, or what, doesn't really matter.
It might also be possible that the NSA / whoever has had the idea for
this for quite a while, has been promoting it (Denning, et al) and
siezed the new opportunity - a new administration who wants to spend
more money on espionage than Bush did.
Whatever, i'm not so sure that the cause/effect order is totally
obvious.
--
You will lose your "Drug Free And Proud" ribbon. Two days later, you will
catch a neighborhood kid smoking it.
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4075 | From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Subject: Re: where to put your helmet
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
Lines: 25
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: laura.harvard.edu
In-reply-to: ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org's message of 19 Apr 93 18:25:00 GMT
>>>>> On 19 Apr 93 18:25:00 GMT, ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) said:
CB> DON'T BE SO STUPID AS TO LEAVE YOUR HELMET ON THE SEAT WHERE IT CAN
CB> FALL DOWN AND GO BOOM!
Ryan> Another good place for your helmet is your mirror (!). I kid you not.
This is very bad advice. Helmets have two major impact absorbing
layers... a hard outer shell and a closed-cell foam impact layer.
Most helmets lose their protective properties because the inner liner
compacts over time, long before the outer shell is damaged or
delaminates from age. Dr. Hurt tested helmets for many years
following his landmark study and has estimated that a helmet can lose
up to 80% of it's effectiveness from inner liner compression. I have
a video he produced that discusses this phenomenon in detail.
Puncture compression of the type caused by mirrors, sissy bars, and
other relatively sharp objects is the worst offender. Even when the
comfort liner is unaffected, dents and holes in the foam can seriously
degrade the effectiveness of a helmet. If you are in the habit of
"parking your lid" on the mirrors, I suggest you look under the
comfort liner at the condition of the foam. If it is significantly
damaged (or missing :-), replace the helmet.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu> MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ. "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
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4076 | Organization: Penn State University
From: <FWR100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: 80386 and 80486: What's the difference?
Lines: 34
In article <joedal.735221221@dfi.aau.dk>, joedal@dfi.aau.dk (Lars Joedal) says:
>
>Except from clock frequency, what are the differences between the
>various types of 386 and 486 processors?
>The following is a list with what I know (or perhaps only what I
>think I know!). Can anybody extend & correct?
>
>
>80386: True 32 bit processor.
> (cache?)
No cache, also called 386DX.
>80386SX: Emulates 80386 with a 16 bit bus.
It has the same internals as the 386, is a real 32-bit processor, just has
16 bit hookup to the outside world.
>80486: True 32 bit processor.
> Internal mathematical coprocessor (Correct?)
Yes, optimized 387 internal.
> Internal cache (Correct? How big?)
Yes, 8K.
> (extended instruction set in any way?)
Yes, but only a few instructions, nothing noteworthy.
>80486SX: Probably sorta like 80486...
486 with no coprocessor.
>80486DX: Probably sorta like 80386...
Nope. Just another name for the 486.
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4077 | From: k8gj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Subject: Impreza, Altima, or What??
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University
Lines: 14
A friend of mine is cnsidering buying a new car, and is considering the
Subaru Impreza or the Nissan Altima right now. Which of these two cars
would you recommend. We definately want an airbag and ABS, and room for
tall people and long legs.
If you have other suggestions for cars under $13K after dealing I'd be
interested
in you opinions as well.
PLEASE send replies to sem1@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu, no tthis address.
THANKS!
Scott
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4078 | From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Rangers give NHL another blackeye...
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 10
News reports in Toronto say that the Rangers are insisting that
Kovalev, Zubov, and Andersson play for Binghampton in the Calder
Cup playoffs, rather than return to play for their "home" countries
in the World Championships.
...shame on the Rangers.
Another black eye for the NHL in Europe.
Gerald
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4079 | From: pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: 5 Apr 93 God's Promise in Psalm 85: 8
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Lines: 21
In article <C50KDr.Duz@acsu.buffalo.edu>
psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) writes:
> I will hear what God the LORD will speak:
> for he will speak peace
> unto his people, and to his saints:
> but let them not turn again to folly.
Psalm85(JPS): For the leader. Of the Korahites. A psalm. O LORD, You
will favor Your land, restore Jacob's fortune; You will forgive Your
people's iniquity, pardon all their sins; Selah; You will withdraw all Your
anger, turn away from Your rage. Turn again, O God, our helper, revoke
Your displeasure with us. Will you be angry with us forever, prolong
Your wrath for all generations? Surely You will revive us again, so that
Your people may rejoice in You. Show us, O LORD, Your faithfulness;
grant us Your deliverance. Let me hear what God, the LORD, will speak;
He will promise well-being to His people, His faithful ones; may they
not turn to folly. His help is very near those who fear Him, to make His
glory dwell in our land. Faithfulness and truth meet; justice and
well-being kiss. Truth springs up from the earth; justice looks down
from heaven. The LORD also bestows His bounty; our land yields its
produce. Justice goes before Him as He sets out on His way.
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4080 | Subject: Re: Gatewaying Microsoft Mail/Workgroups via 96
From: wesj@extsparc.usu.edu (Wes James)
Reply-To: wesj@extsparc.usu.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Nntp-Posting-Host: extsparc.agsci.usu.edu
Lines: 40
We here at Utah State University Cooperative Extension have been using
W4Wg for a while now. We wanted to talk to the internet with the mail
package so we got the smtp gateway. You also need a tcp/ip transport
package on top of that which is utterly stupid but that's what they
require to get the smtp gateway to work. You need a dedicated pc
for the gateway and if you are looking at remote access you need another
dedicated pc for the remote mail stuff. We do not have the remote mail
going but you indicate that that is what you want to do.
There is a glitch somewhere in the system though. I don't know if it
is MS mail, the gateway or the VAX here on campus that is choking in the
mail that is sent. The scenario is this. The outgoing mail goes to a
Unix system which then routes the mail where it needs to go. If that mail
is routed to the VAX, the VAX has problems some times receiving the mail.
Most messages do get through this way except if someone has there mail
on the VAX forwarded to some other location. That is the main gotcha.
Where ever the mail is forwarded to that person gets a message header
then a message saying "Boudary:= (error garbage code stuff)". If you
can stay away from sending to a VAX you are ok. The system people
of course say that the VAX is not the problem, the gateway is probably
the problem. If anyone wants to get help it is only $175.00 for one
support call. (until problem is worked out) Phooey to that I say. I
am looking vigorously for a better Idea.
If you go forward on any of this and find out anything knew, please
drop me a note - anyone. The next itteration is supposed to have tcp/ip
built in THEY say........ The netxt itteration of w4wg
Good Luck!!!!!
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Wes James Email: wesj@extsparc.agsci.usu.edu
Utah State University
Cooperative Extension
Systems Specialist
UMC 4900 Voice: (801)750-2229
Logan, UT 84322-4900 FAX: (801)750-3268
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4081 | From: mpaul@unl.edu (marxhausen paul)
Subject: How to kill AC inductive load spiking?
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Lines: 20
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu
Is there a fast 'n dirty way to kill the line spiking that occurs when
an inductive load is turned on sometime other than at zero-crossing of
the AC cycle? A capacitor kludged in somehow, etc?
I've got a microcontroller that is running a bunch of valves and pumps
in a big instrument washer, and almost everything is being switched with
zero-crossing solid state relays, so that stuff stays "quiet", AC-wise.
But there's one steam valve that gets turned on by a mechanical relay
in the water tank fill/thermostat system, and it's not under control
of my SSRs, and it does sometimes generate/radiate a spike that resets
one of my peripheral chips. My software times out and tries again, but
I'd love to just tack in a magic spike-killing fix that would avoid having
to do some major rewiring/redesign. A varistor would help but might not
be sufficient. Ideas?
--
paul marxhausen .... ....... ............. ............ ............ ..........
.. . . . . . university of nebraska - lincoln . . . .. . . .. . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . grace . . . .
. . . . . . . . happens .
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4082 | From: jfare@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Jim Fare)
Subject: Re: Endometriosis
Reply-To: jfare@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Jim Fare)
Distribution: world
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA
Lines: 26
In article <1993Apr16.032251.6606@rock.concert.net> naomi@rock.concert.net (Naomi T Courter) writes:
>can anyone give me more information regarding endometriosis? i heard
>it's a very common disease among women and if anyone can provide names
>...
>--Naomi
Endometriosis is where cells that would normally be lining the uteris exist
outside the uteris. Sometimes this causes problems, often it doesn't.
There is generally no need to remove pockets of endometriosis unless they are
causing other problems. One lady I know had Endometriosis in an ovary.
This caused her a _great_ deal of pain. Another lady I know has an
endometrial cyst in her abdominal wall; she is not having it removed.
The American Fertility Society has information on this and they probably
maintain a list of physicians in all parts of the continent that deal with
endometriosis. You can reach them at:
The American Fertility Society
2140 11th Ave South
Suite 200
Birmingham, Alabama 35205-2800
(205)933-8494
[J.F.]
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4083 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Gamma Ray Bursters. WHere are they.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
What evidence indicates that Gamma Ray bursters are very far away?
Given the enormous power, i was just wondering, what if they are
quantum black holes or something like that fairly close by?
Why would they have to be at galactic ranges?
my own pet theory is that it's Flying saucers entering
hyperspace :-)
but the reason i am asking is that most everyone assumes that they
are colliding nuetron stars or spinning black holes, i just wondered
if any mechanism could exist and place them closer in.
pat
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4084 | From: mblock@reed.edu (Matt Block)
Subject: Re: Fortune-guzzler barred from bars!
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Apr16.104158.27890
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
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bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>Saw this in today's newspaper:
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>FORTUNE-GUZZLER BARRED FROM BARS
>--------------------------------
>Barnstaple, England/Reuter
>
> A motorcyclist said to have drunk away a $290,000 insurance payment in
>less than 10 years was banned Wednesday from every pub in England and Wales.
>
> David Roberts, 29, had been awarded the cash in compensation for
>losing a leg in a motorcycle accident. He spent virtually all of it on cider, a
>court in Barnstaple in southwest England was told.
>
> Judge Malcolm Coterill banned Roberts from all bars in England and
>Wales for 12 months and put on two years' probation after he started a brawl in
>a pub.
Is there no JUSTICE?!
If I lost my leg when I was 19, and had to give up motorcycling
(assuming David didn't know that it can be done one-legged,) I too would want
to get swamped.... maybe even for ten years! I'll admit, I'd probably prefer
homebrew to pubbrew, but still...
Judge Coterill is in some serious trouble, I can tell you that. Any
chance you can get to him and convince him his ruling was backward, Nick?
Perhaps the lad deserved something for starting a brawl (bad form...
horribly bad form,) but for getting drunk? That, I thought, was ones natural
born right! And for spending his own money? My goodness, who cares what one
does with one's own moolah, even if one spends it recklessly?
I'm ashamed of humanity.
Matt Block & Koch
DoD# #007 1980 Honda CB650
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4085 | From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: chronic sinus and antibiotics
Organization: University of Maryland
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Keywords: sinus, antibiotics, antibacterial
You can also swab the inside of your nose with Bacitracin using a
Q tip. Bacitracin is an antibiotic that can be bought OTC as an
ointment in a tube. The doctor I listen to on the radio says to apply
it for 30 days, while you are taking other antibiotics by mouth.
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4086 | From: valo@cvtstu.cvt.stuba.cs (Valo Roman)
Subject: Re: Text Recognition software availability
Organization: Slovak Technical University Bratislava, Slovakia
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ReplyTo: valo@cvtstu.cvt.stuba.cs (Valo Roman)
In article <C4IHqM.7v3@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) writes:
|> One more time: is there any >free< OCR software out there?
|>
|> I ask this question periodically and haven't found anything. This is
|> the last time. If I don't find anything, I'm going to write some
|> myself.
|>
|> Post here or email me if you have any leads or suggestions, else just
|> sit back and wait for me. :)
|>
|> ab
I'm not sure if this is free or shareware, but you can try to look to wsmrsimtel20.army.mil,
directory PD1:<MSDOS.DESKPUB> file OCR104.ZIP .
From the file SIMIBM.LST :
OCR104.ZIP B 93310 910424 Optical character recognition for scanners.
Hope this helps.
Roman Valo valo@cvt.stuba.cs
Slovak Technical University
Bratislava
Slovakia
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4087 | From: amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: Department of Mathematical Sciences
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In article <tcmayC5M2xv.JEx@netcom.com>
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) writes:
>
>But is it any worse than the current unsecure system? It becomes much
>worse, of course, if the government then uses this "Clinton Clipper"
>to argue for restrictions on unapproved encryption. (This is the main
>concern of most of us, I think. The camel's nose in the tent, etc.)
>
Not to pick on Mr. May in particular, of course, but isn't this
kind of the domino theory? When one little country falls, its neighbor
will surely follow, and before you know it, we're all mining salt
in Siberia for not turning in our Captain Crunch Secret Decoder Rings.
Surely the hypothesis relying on the least wild assumptions is
to take this at face value. Our lads at the fort were asked to cook up
something that's pretty secure, with a key that can be escrowed neatly,
and they did. The government plans to sell this thing, for the reasons
they state. Yes, those evil guys in the FBI can probably, with some
effort, abuse the system. I got news for you, if the evil guys in
the FBI decide they want to persecute you, they're gonna, and you're
gonna hate it. Fact is, the FBI doesn't want to listen to your phone
calls, and if they do, and if you're using triple-DES, they'll just
get a parabolic microphone and point it at your head.
This is pretty clearly an effort by the government to do exactly
what they're saying they're doing. As is typical with governments,
it's mismanaged, and full of holes and compromises. As is typical
with our government, it's not too bad, could be worse.
My interpretation.
Andrew
>-Tim May, whose sig block may get him busted in the New Regime
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Isn't this just a little melodramatic?
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4088 | From: 18084TM@msu.edu (Tom)
Subject: Fred and Tom, ad naseum
X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest
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>>Nick sez;
I'm not very impressed by the old so-called "prospecting" work from
LPI, it has almost all been geared towards industrially silly processes on
the moon as an excuse to put astronauts there. [...]
>>Fred replies;
Translation: It doesn't support the Nick Szabo Vision of the Future
to Which You MUST Subscribe...
>Tom sez;
Fred, we're all supporting what each of us thinks should be done, to some
degree. If you have a problem with what Nick thinks should be done,
address it, instead of just complaining about his doing so.
>Fred again;
You really don't get what the 'complaints' are about, do you?
[not incredibly clear explanation of complaints...something between
feelings regarding Nick's method, and judgments about his meaning]
T
>>Maybe I'd get it if you said what the complaints are about, rather than
>>doing the same things that you mean to complain about. When you trash
>>people, how am I supposed to read that as 'trashing people is bad'?
F
>Gee, funny that you get it now, then? Deliberate obtuseness, perhaps?
*** Fred's issue #1; Nick's alleged trashing of others ***
I only got it when you stopped trashing, and made your point patently,
instead of 'allegorically'. That was my point all along, Fred.
>>>>Not only
>>>>do you do the same thing on the net (honestly reporting your ideas
>>>>on matters of policy and projects in space), but your response was just
>>>>baiting, not even part of a debate.
>>>I have yet to see Nick enter into anything remotely resembling "a
>>>debate". I see him flame anyone or anything who disagrees with The
>>>One True Szabo Plan; I see him attacking people, calling them "lazy
>>>bastard" because they had the temerity to disagree with the Almight
>>>Nick; I see him questioning peoples ethics, again because they had the
>>>temerity to disagree with Lord God Szabo. But debate? BWAAaaahhhaaaa.
>>I'm glad you can laugh, since your ratio of debate/insult is about the same.
>Not even close, Tommy, and generally only when I'm dealing with
>someone like Nick.
I see we are dealing with a problem in a conflict of interpretations, not
least of which is your belief that only you can adequately judge what is
and is not debate. Suffice to say that I disagree with you on that last
point. Why don't you take a poll, Fred, if you want some psuedo-objective
point-of-view?
And, as usual, you defend your insults with "he started it." "Yeah, I
took some of his research and called it my own, but he started it." "So
what if I stole his car, he stole my lawnmower first." Besides that, I
think it's still open to interpretation whether Nick actually did start it.
So your defense, besides being lame, and contradicting the first part of
the sentence in which it occurs, may not even apply anyway.
Your defense reminds me of the guy that broke the borrowed tool: "I
never borrowed it, I already gave it back, and it was broken when you
gave it to me." Make up yer mind, Fred!
>>>>I'm not convinced that people are necessary in all parts of every space-
>>>>based process, and your response doesn't tell me a thing about the
>>>>reasons why you think they should be, except to impune the motives of
>>>>the person with a divergent opinion.
>>>Who said I think they should be, Tommy? Show me a note where I said
>>>that and I'll eat this terminal. ****See below, Fred****
>>Fred, I cocluded that you did, since you took issue with it. The fact
>>that my conclusion was incorrect, i.e. that you were taking issue with
>>something different, is evidence that your communication style is
>>confusing.
>Or evidence that your reading and comprehension style are inadequate.
First, I try to address what I think you meant, for which I am rewarded
with a denial of sorts, and a smart remark. Then, I point out that I am
not clear what you did mean, rather than risking your childish ire, wrongly
interpreting you a second time, and I'm stupid for it. I just can't win,
can I, Fred? You've got a great point here somewhere, it's just that
between stupid people that you must insult, and your jealous guarding of
your valuable opinions, you never actually get around to making it.
>Please quote the 'it' I took issue with. I believe you will see (if
>you look) that what I was and am taking issue with is Mr Szabo's idea
>that the manned program should be scrapped until such time as his
>toaster-based infrastructure is finished. All Hail the Szabo Plan!
*** Fred issue #2; Nick's alleged meaning ***
Too bad the plan only exists in your mind, instead of Nick's, or you
would have a really good point. Instead you have provided a good reason
to ignore your insults, since they are based on incorrect interpretations
that you have made about others. Forgive me for giving your insults more
meaning than they ever should have had.
My reading of what Nick actually said is that "people aren't required in
all parts of all space processes", so your taking issue with his opinions
regarding people in the space program, I read as "People are required in
all parts of all space processes." So, help me out, here, Fred, since I'm
so patently stupid. Did you read Nick wrong? Or are you going to eat
your terminal now? If the latter, I sure hope it's one of those Cheeto and
string models that all the computer mags have been raving about :-)
The point is, _I_ am not stupid because of _your_ incorrect assumption. I'd
only be stupid if I insulted you for having made it. But, alas, that's your
job, Fred.
And, finally, your style is confusing, since you tried to make two points,
simultaneously, with an allegory/insult. Sadly, one point addressed a 'plan'
that only existed in your mind, and the other took issue with behaviors that
you do as much as anyone.
>More deliberate lack of understanding, Tommy?
No, no, I finally got it. You don't like the plan that Nick's posts made
you imagine. And you don't like Nick's obnoxious behavior, even though
it's no worse than your own. Thanks for taking the time with someone as
dense as myself.
>>>>If you have a problem with Nick's delivery, address that. The way you
>>>>bait, you're perpetuating the lack of discourse that you complain of.
>>>No, Tommy, the 'bait' is that which elicits the response. *NICK*
>>>'baits'; I just flame him for being an obnoxious fool.
>>I don't really care who started it. I read this list to get information
>>and other's views on the issues to which it was dedicated, not to be
>>your Mom (He started it! No, he did!) or to hear about why Nick is a very
>>bad guy. If you think flaming is bad, stop flaming, or at least get to
>>the point in the first post, instead of explaining yourself all the time.
>That's nice, Tommy. When you pay me to post to the net you can
>complain about not getting your money's worth. Perhaps if you weren't
>(deliberately?) too thick to get the point the first time I wouldn't
>have to waste time "explaining [myself] all the time"?
Of course, Socrates. How could it be otherwise?
>I think it's neat how all this criticism from you started after your
>'fatherly' admonitions to me about how such things should be handled
>outside Usenet were somewhat rebuffed. Being a little hypocritical,
>Tommy (to go with the immaturity)? Or is this just the pique of a
>net.ghod wannabe who got turned down by someone he *thought* was new
>(and hence could be 'instructed' -- Tommy, I saw you come on the net).
Who cares who came on the net first? If you do, consider that you saw
me come on after a brief haitus, before which I was on for about 2 years.
If you had seen me on the net first, you'd remember when Nick and I went
down exactly the same road regarding rude, unneccesary behavior. It's
just amazing to me that you continue to take issue with behavior that's
no worse than your own.
Let's see here, my complaints about your obnoxious behavior are hypocritical,
while your flames against people you decide are flamers isn't, and my
complaints about your name-calling are immature, while your name-calling
isn't. Yeah, right. Maybe if you called me some more names, I might
see it better, Fred.
"Net.ghod wannabe"? Naturally, Fred, you've correctly interpreted my
motivations, when yours are impossible to judge from your actions (as
your insulting of people that try, proves). I didn't really care about
people that fill the net with personal garbage, what I really wanted was to
impress everyone. I only put my complaints with your behavior on private
mail, not because it belongs there, but because I thought you were such a
jerk that you'd bring it back to the Net, playing right into my hands.
Alas, I had no idea what an intellectual master you were, turning tables and
bringing the history of these posts to the net, for the noble and valuable
purpose of embarassing me. Whether I should feel stupid because I tried
to make suggestions to such a superior intellect, or becuase I tried to
communicate like an adult with a self-righteous ass, still isn't clear.
Well, Fred, you exposed me. Now I'll never be able to get a(nother) job
with NASA, since they all know that I'm stupider than Fred McCall. Well,
I just hope you're happy. Please leave me alone, now. I just don't
have the heart to attempt keeping up with one so far above me. Maybe Nick
or Pat can approach your high standards, but I'm dropping it now.
-Tommy Mac
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Tom McWilliams 517-355-2178 wk \\ As the radius of vision increases,
18084tm@ibm.cl.msu.edu 336-9591 hm \\ the circumference of mystery grows.
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4089 | From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
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jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Han) writes:
> The point of the matter is that; yes this is a serious problem. But it is
> not the end of the world. Guess what? We're doing something now you
> can't do in a Communist country or Nazi Germany.
Or John Edgar Hoover's USA.
> We're complaining about
> it, (or rather, you're complaining about it) and nobody is shooting at us.
yet.
> GUESS WHAT PEOPLE? You live in one of the few countries in the world
> where a person can complain without getting shot at.
yet.
> People are always complaining that somebody did this wrong, or somebody
> did that wrong, or whatever. Sit down and figure out two things:
>
> 1) What have they done right?
> 2) How much worse can it get?
>
> And you'll find that you and I, are pretty damn lucky.
so far.
> So let's talk about it, get some action going, decide what's going on.
> But let's not overreact!
What harm is there in overreacting?
This may be the largest single threat to civil liberties yet in my
lifetime. The US has done some pretty heinous things in the past,
and we haven't yet recovered from all of them. There certainly seems
to be a historical trend towards less liberty, with occasional
perturbations.
Time to break out the quotes from American political radicals.
Lyle Transarc 707 Grant Street
412 338 4474 The Gulf Tower Pittsburgh 15219
There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the
people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power,
than by violent and sudden usurpation. -- James Madison
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4090 | Subject: roman.bmp 10/14
From: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff)
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4091 | From: vg@volkmar.Stollmann.DE (Volkmar Grote)
Subject: IBM PS/1 vs TEAC FD
Distribution: world
Organization: Me? Organized?
Lines: 21
Hello,
I already tried our national news group without success.
I tried to replace a friend's original IBM floppy disk in his PS/1-PC
with a normal TEAC drive.
I already identified the power supply on pins 3 (5V) and 6 (12V), shorted
pin 6 (5.25"/3.5" switch) and inserted pullup resistors (2K2) on pins
8, 26, 28, 30, and 34.
The computer doesn't complain about a missing FD, but the FD's light
stays on all the time. The drive spins up o.k. when I insert a disk,
but I can't access it.
The TEAC works fine in a normal PC.
Are there any points I missed?
Thank you.
Volkmar
---
Volkmar.Grote@Stollmann.DE
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4092 | From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Subject: Re: Countersteering_FAQ please post
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Lines: 52
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com
In article 734954875@zen.sys.uea.ac.uk, mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) writes:
>
>Secondly, it is the adhesion of the
>tyre on the road, the suspension geometry and the ground clearance of the
> motorcycle which dictate how quickly you can swerve to avoid obstacles, and
>not the knowledge of physics between the rider's ears. Are you seriously
>suggesting that countersteering knowledge enables you to corner faster
>or more competentlY than you could manage otherwise??
If he's not, I will. Put two riders on identical machines. It's the
one who knows what he's doing, and why, that will be faster. It *may*
be possible to improve your technique if you have no idea what it is,
through trial and error, but it is not very effective methodology.
Only by understanding the technique of steering a motorcycle can one
improve on that technique (I hold that this applies to any human
endeavor).
>that's all it is - an interesting bit of knowledge, and to claim that
>it is essential for all bikers to know it, or that you can corner faster
>or better as a result, is absurd.
Do you consider an understanding of the physics of traction absurd?
Are you seriously suggesting that one can form a traction management
policy without understanding what it is or what factors increase or
decrease available traction? Braking?
It is highly unlikely that any biker is going to develop his maximum
swerving ability without any knowledge of turning techniques. For most
of his riding life this may not be a problem, but in an emergency
situation it is very definately placing him at a disadvantage.
>But by including countersteering
>theory in newbie courses we are confusing people unnecessarily, right at
>the time when there are *far* more important matters for them to learn.
I disagree. The existance and immense success of riding courses which
teach the technique indicate that the concept can be taught in a manner
that is neither confusing, nor detracts from any other aspects of the
course.
>And that was my original point.
Perhaps, but in the ensuing discussion, you strayed far from that
point, to claim that knowledge of steering technique is irrelevant to a
rider's ability. I find this assertion ludicrous.
---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said,
DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
(The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...
|
4093 | From: peterd@jamie.dev.cdx.mot.com (Peter Desnoyers)
Subject: Help with fixed-frequency (52kHz?) VGA monitor
Nntp-Posting-Host: jamie.dev.cdx.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, Massachusetts
Lines: 14
I recently bought a monichrome VGA monitor for $99 that will do
1024x768 non-interlaced, which seems like a good deal. However, it is
a fixed-scan rate monitor, and only handles 52 kHz horizontal, I
think. With my Trident card it works only in graphics modes 5e and 62
- not much use, since just about any application will set the mode to
something else, especially if it wants to do text, I suppose. Anyway:
- is there any way that I can use this as a general-purpose VGA
display with a 1-meg trident 8900C card?
- if not, can I do so with some sort of different VGA card?
Peter Desnoyers
--
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4094 | From: gmiller@worldbank.org (Gene C. Miller)
Subject: Re: Radical Agnostic... NOT!
Organization: worldbank.org
Lines: 37
In article <1993Apr6.013657.5691@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu
(David Nye) wrote:
>
> [reply to zazen@austin.ibm.com (E. H. Welbon)]
>
> >>> There is no means that i can possibly think of to prove beyond doubt
> >>>that a god does not exist (but if anyone has one, by all means, tell me
> >>>what it is). Therefore, lacking this ability of absolute proof, being an
> >>>atheist becomes an act of faith in and of itself, and this I cannot accept.
> >>> I accept nothing on blind faith.
>
> >>Invisible Pink Flying Unicorns! Need I say more?
>
> >...I harbor no beliefs at all, there is no good evidence for god
> >existing or not. Some folks call this agnosticism. It does not suffer
> >from "blind faith" at all. I think of it as "Don't worry, be happy".
>
> For many atheists, the lack of belief in gods is secondary to an
> epistemological consideration: what do we accept as a reliable way of
> knowing? There are no known valid logical arguments for the existence
> of gods, nor is there any empirical evidence that they exist. Most
> philosophers and theologians agree that the idea of a god is one that
> must be accepted on faith. Faith is belief without a sound logical
> basis or empirical evidence. It is a reliable way of knowing?
>
Could you expand on your definition of knowing? It seems a bit monolithic
here, but I'm not sure that you intend that. Don't we need, for example, to
distinguish between "knowing" 2 plus 2 equals 4 (or 2 apples plus 2 apples
equals 4 apples), the French "knowing" that Jerry Lewis is an auteur, and
what it means to say we "know" what Socrates said?
> This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
> must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell
I like this epigraph. Perhaps the issue is learning which, if any,
absurdities merit further exploration...Gene
|
4095 | From: will@rins.ryukoku.ac.jp (William Reiken)
Subject: Re: nuclear waste
Organization: Ryukoku Univ., Seta, Japan
Lines: 12
In article <1pp6reINNonl@phantom.gatech.edu>, matthew@phantom.gatech.edu (Matthew DeLuca) writes:
>
> Greedy little oil companies? Don't blame them; oil companies just supply the
> demand created by you, me, and just about everyone else on the planet. If we
> run out, its all our faults.
>
Ok, so how about the creation of oil producing bacteria? I figure
that if you can make them to eat it up then you can make them to shit it.
Any comments?
Will...
|
4096 | From: cca20@keele.ac.uk (J. Atherton)
Subject: Serial Printing
Lines: 16
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: seq1.cc.keele.ac.uk
Summary: Output to serial printer garbles with Windows app. (e.g. Works)
Keywords: Works Handshaking serial
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Hi,
We've been having problems on a few setups when printing to a
serial printer (dmp or Laser). I have used Works and Windows Write. The
output is OK from DOS and if I send plain text output, but anything
fancy garbles or just doesn't output. The exception is outputting to a
Lserjet 4 which 'appears' to be fast enough receiving data, not to
bother about handshaking messages. I'm sure I'm not alone in this. I've
tried most of the Print/Network manager options I can think of. Anyone
had similar problems they've cured and would like to tell me 'bout it??
Thanks
John Atherton
|
4097 | From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews?
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Lines: 13
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com
In article <93110.11265034AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>, <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
> As a minor point of interest, earlier news reports claim to have
> been quoting the Governor of Texas when Her Holiness referred to
> the Dividians as _Mormons_ and called for their expulsion
> from TX. Any Texans have details?
The Davidians are a 60-year-old splinter from the Seventh Day Adventists,
if that's the information you were looking for.
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
|
4098 | From: tim@kimba.catt.citri.edu.au (Tim Liddelow)
Subject: Keysym database problems
Keywords: X, Motif
Organization: CATT Centre at CITRI, Melbourne, Australia
Lines: 31
I am having problems with a Motif application that when run on another machine
(with different X paths, etc) can't find the XKeysymDB file. This causes a large
warning output:
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfActivate:ManagerParentActivate()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfCancel:ManagerParentCancel()'
Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect
Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect:ManagerGadgetSelect()'
...
....
....
etc.
as the file is in a different location, but Xt seems to only look for it in
the place where it is on the machine the app was compiled on. Is there any
way to read the XKeysymDB manually with an X/Xt call so that additions to
the XKeysymDB can be distributed with the application ? I have used trace(1)
to find out what was going on, but I need a fix so that these translations in
the application can be recognised.
--tim
________________________________________________________________________________
Tim Liddelow for(;;) fork();
Systems Programmer
Centre of Advanced Technology in Telecommunications My brain on a bad day.
CITRI, Melbourne, Australia
internet : tim@kimba.catt.citri.edu.au
Phone : +61 3 282 2455 Fax : +61 3 282 2444
________________________________________________________________________________
|
4099 | From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy)
Subject: Re: Patents (was RC2 RC4)
Nntp-Posting-Host: wardibm2.med.yale.edu
Organization: Yale U. - Genetics
Lines: 30
In article <bontchev.734787730@fbihh>,
bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) wrote:
>
> ahaley@eoe.co.uk (Andrew Haley) writes:
>
> > : Coca-Cola has always understood it.
>
> > Coca-cola is made under licence in dozens of countries around the
> > world. You're crazy if you think PepsiCo doesn't know the recipe.
>
> In all those countries Coca-cola is distributed in a form of
> concentrate what the local producers simply mix with water and other
> simple ingredients. The trick is to know what is in the concentrate...
>
I don't know if this is still true, but at one time Coca-Cola
took elaborate measures to keep the formula secret. For instance,
several plants in different cities each made one of six partial
concentrates, which were then shipped back-and forth and remixed
in a complicated scheme so that no single plant made the whole
formula. By now, I would guess that PepsiCo's chemists would have
reverse-engineered it; can't be all that exotic. Actually I
prefer Pepsi anyhow; in about 3 minutes I'm gonna put money
into a Pepsi vending machine...
Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator;
the lab net pretends to work"
matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
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