index stringlengths 1 5 | content stringlengths 125 75.2k |
|---|---|
3800 | From: bixledn@eng.auburn.edu (David N. Bixler)
Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Car
Nntp-Posting-Host: liberator.eng.auburn.edu
Reply-To: bixledn@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Lines: 36
In article 27322@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU, andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
> In article <93104.231049U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> >All your points are very well taken and things that I haven't considered as
> >I am not really familiar enough with handguns.
>
> That's not all that Kratz doesn't know.
>
> >Hell, a Glock is the last thing that should be switched to. The only thing
> >that I know about a Glock is the lack of a real safety on it. Sure there is
> >that little thing in the trigger but that isn't too great of a safety.
>
> Now we know that Kratz doesn't understand what a safety is supposed to
> do. (He also confuses "things he can see" with "things that exist";
> Glocks have multiple safeties even though only one is visible from the
> outside.)
>
> A safety is supposed to keep the gun from going off UNLESS that's
> what the user wants. With Glocks, one says "I want the gun to go
> off" by pulling the trigger. If the safeties it has make that work,
> it has a "real" safety, no matter what Kratz thinks.
>
> -andy
> --
I agree very much. I have read almost every article written about
the Glock, and IMO, it is probably the safest auto-loader made. It
has the best safty of all, Jeff Cooper's First Rule, "Keep your finger
OFF the trigger until you want to shoot." If everyone just observed
this, there would be fewer "accidents".
David N. Bixler
Auburn University
Standard Disclaimers apply.
|
3801 | From: trevor@telesoft.com (Trevor Bourget @ignite)
Subject: Re: REPOST: Accelerators/Translations
Keywords: Accelerator, case
Organization: Alsys Group, San Diego, CA, USA
Lines: 75
In <sdennis.735423404@aa.cad.slb.com> sdennis@osf.org writes:
>I posted this a while ago and didn't receive one reply, and now we
>have another bug report on the same subject. Can anybody help me out?
The problem is that Motif uses XGrabKey to implement menu accelerators,
and these grabs are specific about which modifiers apply. Unfortunately,
the specification for XGrabKey doesn't allow AnyModifier to be combined
with other modifiers, which is exactly what would be desired in this case:
"Ctrl Any<Key>q".
>In ORA Vol. 6, in the section on accelerators it says "For information
>on how to specify translation tables see Vol. 4...", this is so you
>know what to put for the XmNaccelerator resource. If you go to
>Vol. 4 it says, "Likewise, if a modifier is specified, there is
>nothing to prohibit other modifiers from being present as well. For
>example, the translation:
> Shift<Key>q: quit()
>will take effect even if the Ctrl key is held down at the same time as
>the Shift key (and the q key).
This is true for accelerators and mnemonics, which are implemented using
event handlers instead of grabs; it's not true for menu accelerators. If
you're a Motif implementor, I'd suggest lobbying to get the Xlib semantics
changed to support the feature I described above. Otherwise, change the
documentation for menu accelerators to properly set the user's
expectations, because menu accelerators are NOT the same thing as
translations.
>Is it possible to supply > 1 accelerator for a menu entry?
If you mean "menu accelerator", no it's not possible. That's according to
the definition of the XmNaccelerator resource in the XmLabel manual page.
>Keep in mind when answering this question that when using Motif you
>can't use XtInstallAccelerators().
I can't think of a reason why not.
>How can you ensure that accelerators work the same independent of
>case? What I want is Ctrl+O and Ctrl+o to both be accelerators on one
>menu entry.
There is a workaround for Motif users. In addition to the normal menu
accelerator you install on the XmPushButton[Gadget], set an XtNaccelerators
resource on the shell (TopLevel or Application). Install the shell's
accelerators on itself and all of its descendants with
XtInstallAllAccelerators (shell, shell).
For example,
applicationShell - mainWindow - menuBar - fileCascade
-- filePulldown - openPushbutton
- exitPushbutton
*openPushbutton.accelerator = Ctrl<Key>O
*openPushbutton.acceleratorText = Ctrl+O
*exitPushbutton.accelerator = Ctrl<Key>Q
*exitPushbutton.acceleratorText = Ctrl+Q
*applicationShell.accelerators = #override\n\
Ctrl<Key>O: PerformAction(*openPushbutton, ArmAndActivate)\n\
Ctrl<Key>Q: PerformAction(*exitPushbutton, ArmAndActivate)
You have to write and add the application action PerformAction, which you
can implement by using XtNameToWidget on the first argument and then
XtCallActionProc with the rest of the arguments.
I tested out something similar to this. To shorten development time, I
used TeleUSE's TuNinstallAccelerators resource to install the accelerators
on the shell, and I directly invoked the Open and Quit D actions instead
of asking the pushbuttons to do it for me, but the more general approach I
described above should work.
-- Trevor Bourget (trevor@telesoft.com)
|
3802 | From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Subject: Re: How do I find by AppContext
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 24
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu, masc0442@gondor.sdsu.edu
#
#
# Is there an Xt call to give me my application context?
# I am fixing up an X/Motif program, and am trying to use XtAppAddTimeOut,
# whose first argument is the app_context. What call can I use
# to give me this value?
#
Use XtDisplayToApplicationContext() to retreive the application context.
Patrick L. Mahan
--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------
Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered - Lazarus Long
a capital crime. For a first offense, that is From the Notebooks of
Lazarus Long
Patrick L. Mahan
--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------
Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered - Lazarus Long
a capital crime. For a first offense, that is From the Notebooks of
Lazarus Long
|
3803 | From: spencer@med.umich.edu (Spencer W. Thomas)
Subject: Re: cylinder and ray
Organization: University of Michigan HSITN
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: guraldi.itn.med.umich.edu
In-reply-to: katkere@krusty.eecs.umich.edu's message of Thu, 15 Apr 1993 04:04:23 GMT
Sketch: Rotate so cylinder axis is || Z axis.
Intersect X/Y projection of line with projected cylinder (similar to,
but easier than, sphere intersection). Result: no intersection, one
intersection, or two intersections, parameterized along line by t0 and
t1. Now look at Z, and compute intersections of line with top and
bottom planes of cylinder. This gives t0' and t1'. The interval of
intersection is then the bit of the line from [t0,t1] INTERSECT [t0',t1'].
Details left as an exercise for the reader.
=S
--
=Spencer W. Thomas | Info Tech and Networking, B1911 CFOB, 0704
"Genome Informatician" | Univ of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI 48109
Spencer.W.Thomas@med.umich.edu | 313-764-8065, FAX 313-764-4133
|
3804 | From: fishman@panix.com (Harvey Fishman)
Subject: Re: electronic parts in NYC?
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Lines: 11
There are also a couple or three places on West 45th between Fifth and
Sixth.
Harvey
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Harvey Fishman |
fishman@panix.com | You don't get smart except by asking stupid questions.
718-258-7276 |
|
3805 | From: nigel.allen@canrem.com (Nigel Allen)
Subject: library of congress to host dead sea scroll symposium april 21-22
Lines: 96
Library of Congress to Host Dead Sea Scroll Symposium April 21-22
To: National and Assignment desks, Daybook Editor
Contact: John Sullivan, 202-707-9216, or Lucy Suddreth, 202-707-9191
both of the Library of Congress
WASHINGTON, April 19 -- A symposium on the Dead Sea
Scrolls will be held at the Library of Congress on Wednesday,
April 21, and Thursday, April 22. The two-day program, cosponsored
by the library and Baltimore Hebrew University, with additional
support from the Project Judaica Foundation, will be held in the
library's Mumford Room, sixth floor, Madison Building.
Seating is limited, and admission to any session of the symposium
must be requested in writing (see Note A).
The symposium will be held one week before the public opening of a
major exhibition, "Scrolls from the Dead Sea: The Ancient Library of
Qumran and Modern Scholarship," that opens at the Library of Congress
on April 29. On view will be fragmentary scrolls and archaeological
artifacts excavated at Qumran, on loan from the Israel Antiquities
Authority. Approximately 50 items from Library of Congress special
collections will augment these materials. The exhibition, on view in
the Madison Gallery, through Aug. 1, is made possible by a generous
gift from the Project Judaica Foundation of Washington, D.C.
The Dead Sea Scrolls have been the focus of public and scholarly
interest since 1947, when they were discovered in the desert 13 miles
east of Jerusalem. The symposium will explore the origin and meaning
of the scrolls and current scholarship. Scholars from diverse
academic backgrounds and religious affiliations, will offer their
disparate views, ensuring a lively discussion.
The symposium schedule includes opening remarks on April 21, at
2 p.m., by Librarian of Congress James H. Billington, and by
Dr. Norma Furst, president, Baltimore Hebrew University. Co-chairing
the symposium are Joseph Baumgarten, professor of Rabbinic Literature
and Institutions, Baltimore Hebrew University and Michael Grunberger,
head, Hebraic Section, Library of Congress.
Geza Vermes, professor emeritus of Jewish studies, Oxford
University, will give the keynote address on the current state of
scroll research, focusing on where we stand today. On the second
day, the closing address will be given by Shmaryahu Talmon, who will
propose a research agenda, picking up the theme of how the Qumran
studies might proceed.
On Wednesday, April 21, other speakers will include:
-- Eugene Ulrich, professor of Hebrew Scriptures, University of
Notre Dame and chief editor, Biblical Scrolls from Qumran, on "The
Bible at Qumran;"
-- Michael Stone, National Endowment for the Humanities
distinguished visiting professor of religious studies, University of
Richmond, on "The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Pseudepigrapha."
-- From 5 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. a special preview of the exhibition
will be given to symposium participants and guests.
On Thursday, April 22, beginning at 9 a.m., speakers will include:
-- Magen Broshi, curator, shrine of the Book, Israel Museum,
Jerusalem, on "Qumran: The Archaeological Evidence;"
-- P. Kyle McCarter, Albright professor of Biblical and ancient
near Eastern studies, The Johns Hopkins University, on "The Copper
Scroll;"
-- Lawrence H. Schiffman, professor of Hebrew and Judaic studies,
New York University, on "The Dead Sea Scrolls and the History of
Judaism;" and
-- James VanderKam, professor of theology, University of Notre
Dame, on "Messianism in the Scrolls and in Early Christianity."
The Thursday afternoon sessions, at 1:30 p.m., include:
-- Devorah Dimant, associate professor of Bible and Ancient Jewish
Thought, University of Haifa, on "Qumran Manuscripts: Library of a
Jewish Community;"
-- Norman Golb, Rosenberger professor of Jewish history and
civilization, Oriental Institute, University of Chicago, on "The
Current Status of the Jerusalem Origin of the Scrolls;"
-- Shmaryahu Talmon, J.L. Magnas professor emeritus of Biblical
studies, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, on "The Essential 'Commune of
the Renewed Covenant': How Should Qumran Studies Proceed?" will close
the symposium.
There will be ample time for question and answer periods at the
end of each session.
Also on Wednesday, April 21, at 11 a.m.:
The Library of Congress and The Israel Antiquities Authority
will hold a lecture by Esther Boyd-Alkalay, consulting conservator,
Israel Antiquities Authority, on "Preserving the Dead Sea Scrolls"
in the Mumford Room, LM-649, James Madison Memorial Building, The
Library of Congress, 101 Independence Ave., S.E., Washington, D.C.
------
NOTE A: For more information about admission to the symposium,
please contact, in writing, Dr. Michael Grunberger, head, Hebraic
Section, African and Middle Eastern Division, Library of Congress,
Washington, D.C. 20540.
-30-
--
Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario
416-629-7000/629-7044
|
3806 | From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: Re: plus minus stat
Lines: 16
Nntp-Posting-Host: pittpa.cray.com
Organization: Cray Research Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Gerald Olchowy (golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca) wrote:
: It is meaningless to compare one player's plus/minus statistic with
: another players' out of the context of the role and the playing time
: of the players involved.
: To compare Jagr's and Francis's plus/minus is ridiculous and absurd...
: Gerald
Thank you for putting this in perspective!
--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot
huot@cray.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
3807 | From: jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler)
Subject: Re: SSPX schism ?
Organization: none
Lines: 52
Bob Van Cleef writes:
If the Papacy is infallible, and this is a matter of faith, then the
Pope cannot "be wrong!" If, on the other hand, this is not a matter
of faith, but a matter of Church law, then we should still obey as the
Pope is the legal head of the church.
In other words, given the doctrine of infallibility, we have no choice
but to obey.
This is a primary problem in the Church today. What you are saying is
more or less heresy. You might call it "infallibilism". It's the
idea that the Pope is always right in everything he says or does.
This is virtually all over the place, especially in this country.
The Pope is only infallible under certain very specific and
well-defined conditions. When these conditions are not met, he can
make mistakes. He can make *big* mistakes.
A couple historical examples come to mind.
Bishop Robert Grosseteste was perhaps the greatest product of the
English Catholic Church. At one point during his career, the reigning
Pope decided to install one of his nephews in an English see. Bishop
Grosseteste said that this would happen over his dead body (though
maybe not in so many words; you have to treat Popes with respect, even
when they are wrong). The problem was that this nephew would just
collect the income of the see, and probably never set foot there.
This would deprive the people of the see of a shepherd. Bishop
Grosseteste was quite right in what he did!
Another example is that of Pope John XXII, a Pope of the Middle Ages.
He decided that souls that were saved did not enjoy the Beatific
Vision until the Last Judgement. He decided that this should be a
defined doctrine of the Church. Though he didn't quite get around to
defining it. Now there's no way this is compatible with Catholic
doctrine. The Pope's doctrine was criticised by many in the Church.
He went so far as to put a number of his opponents in jail, even. In
the end, he had to admit his mistake. Shortly before he died, he
recanted. His successor made the exact *opposite* idea a dogma of the
Church.
If you consult any of the great Catholic theologians who treat of such
subjects, such as St. Robert Bellarmine (a Doctor of the Church), you
will find detailed discussions of whether the Pope can personally fall
into heresy or schism.
The teaching of all such theologians is that the commands of a Pope
must be resisted if they are to the detriment of the Catholic Faith.
A Pope's authority is given for the purpose of building up the
Catholic Church. Commands in conflict with this purpose have no
legal *or* moral force.
|
3808 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: eye dominance
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 16
In article <C5E2G7.877@world.std.com> rsilver@world.std.com (Richard Silver) writes:
>
>Is there a right-eye dominance (eyedness?) as there is an
>overall right-handedness in the population? I mean do most
>people require less lens corrections for the one eye than the
>other? If so, what kinds of percentages can be attached to this?
There is eye dominance same as handedness (and usually for the
same side). It has nothing to do with refractive error, however.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
3809 | From: Wayne Alan Martin <wm1h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What do Nuclear Site's Cooling Towers do?
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 60
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <79694@cup.portal.com>
Excerpts from netnews.sci.electronics: 16-Apr-93 Re: What do Nuclear
Site's .. by R_Tim_Coslet@cup.portal.
> From: R_Tim_Coslet@cup.portal.com
> Subject: Re: What do Nuclear Site's Cooling Towers do?
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 21:27:21 PDT
>
> In article: <1qlg9o$d7q@sequoia.ccsd.uts.EDU.AU>
> swalker@uts.EDU.AU (-s87271077-s.walker-man-50-) wrote:
> >I really don't know where to post this question so I figured that
> >this board would be most appropriate.
> >I was wondering about those massive concrete cylinders that
> >are ever present at nuclear poer sites. They look like cylinders
> >that have been pinched in the middle. Does anybody know what the
> >actual purpose of those things are?. I hear that they're called
> >'Cooling Towers' but what the heck do they cool?
>
> Except for their size, the cooling towers on nuclear power plants
> are vertually identical in construction and operation to cooling
> towers designed and built in the 1890's (a hundred years ago) for
> coal fired power plants used for lighting and early electric railways.
>
> Basicly, the cylindrical tower supports a rapid air draft when
> its air is heated by hot water and/or steam circulating thru a network
> of pipes that fill about the lower 1/3 of the tower. To assist cooling
> and the draft, water misters are added that spray cold water over the
> hot pipes. The cold water evaporates, removing the heat faster than
> just air flow from the draft would and the resulting water vapor is
> rapidly carried away by the draft. This produces the clouds frequently
> seen rising out of these towers.
>
> That slight pinch (maybe 2/3 of the way up the tower) is there because
> it produces a very significant increase in the strength and rate of
> the air draft produced, compared to a straight cylinder shape.
>
> The towers are used to recondense the steam in the sealed steam
> system of the power plant so that it can be recirculated back to the
> boiler and used again. The wider the temperature difference across
> the turbines used in the power plant the more effecient they are and
> by recondensing the steam in the cooling towers before sending it
> back to the boilers you maintain a very wide temperature difference
> (sometimes as high as 1000 degrees or more from first stage "hot"
> turbine to final stage "cold" turbine).
>
> R. Tim Coslet
>
> Usenet: R_Tim_Coslet@cup.portal.com
> technology, n. domesticated natural phenomena
Great Explaination, however you left off one detail, why do you always
see them at nuclear plants, but not always at fossil fuel plants. At
nuclear plants it is prefered to run the water closed cycle, whereas
fossil fuel plants can in some cases get away with dumping the hot
water. As I recall the water isn't as hot (thermodynamically) in many
fossil fuel plants, and of course there is less danger of radioactive
contamination.
Wayne Martin
|
3810 | From: mimir@stein.u.washington.edu (Grendel Grettisson)
Subject: Re: Rosicrucian Order(s) ?!
Organization: The Friends of Loki Society
Lines: 27
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu
In article <1qsqar$n8m@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea) writes:
>
>In a previous article, ba@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (B.A. Davis-Howe) says:
>
>>
>>ON the subject of how many competing RC orders there are, let me point out the
>>Golden Dawn is only the *outer* order of that tradition. The inner order is
>>the Roseae Rubeae et Aurae Crucis.
>>
>
> Just wondering, do you mean the "Lectorium Rosicrucianum"?
>Warning: There is no point in arguing who's "legit" and who's not. *WHICH*
>Golden Dawn are you talking about?
Which Golden Dawn? How about the original from 100 years ago?
> Just for the sake of argument, (reflecting NO affiliation)
>I am going to say that the TRUE Rosicrucian Order is the Fraternitas
>Rosae Crucis in Quakertown, Penn.,
>
> Any takers? :-)
No. No Rosicrucian would ever admit or deny being such.
Wassail,
Grendel Grettisson
|
3811 | From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke)
Subject: JPL's VLBI Project Meets with International Space Agencies
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Lines: 112
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
Keywords: VLBI, JPL
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
From the "JPL Universe"
April 23, 1993
VLBI project meets with international space agencies
By Ed McNevin
Members of JPL's Space Very Long Baseline Interferometry
(VLBI) project team recently concluded a week-long series of
meetings with officials from Russia and Japan.
The meetings were part of "Space VLBI Week" held at JPL in
early March and were intended to maintain cooperation between
international space agencies participating in the development of
the U.S. Space VLBI Project, a recently approved JPL flight
project set for launch in 1995.
U.S. Space VLBI will utilize two Earth-orbiting spacecraft
-- the Japanese VSOP (VLBI Space Observing Program) satellite
with its 8-meter radio telescope, and a Russian RADIOASTRON
10-meter satellite. Both spacecraft will team up with
ground-based radio telescopes located around the world to create
a radio telescope network that astronomers hope will expand radio
telescope observing power by a factor of 10.
Japan's VSOP satellite will use a limited six-hour orbit to
conduct imaging science, while the Russian RADIOASTRON spacecraft
will exploit a larger, 28-hour Earth orbit to conduct exploratory
radio astronomy. Each satellite will point at a source target for
roughly 24 hours, while approximately 20 ground-based radio
telescopes will simultaneously point at the same source object
while within view on Earth.
According to Dr. Joel Smith, JPL's project manager for the
U.S. Space VLBI, meetings like those held at JPL will permit
Japan and Russia, who have little previous experience in radio
interferometry, to establish working relationships with the radio
astronomy communities that will be vital during the complex
observations required by the Space VLBI project.
"One of our main activities is developing the methodology
for international coordination, because the two spacecraft
simultaneously rely on the corresponding tracking stations while
using the ground-based radio telescopes to observe the same
celestial objects," said Smith.
Three new tracking antennas are being built at DSN
facilities and other three other tracking facilities located in
Japan, Russia and Green Bank, W.Va. This global network of
ground-based radio telescopes will use precision clocks and
high-speed recorders to collect observation data and forward the
information to a correlator located at the National Radio
Astronomy Observatory in Socorro, N.M. The correlator will
combine and process data, then make it available to mission
investigators in Moscow, Tokyo, and JPL via electronic mail.
Smith is optimistic that the massive radio telescope created
by the Space VLBI network will provide radio astronomers with
better resolution than has ever been achieved before by
ground-based radio telescopes, allowing astronomers to take a
closer look at distant objects in space.
"There is a long history of radio astronomy using
ground-based telescopes," said Smith. "What we intend to do is to
extend radio astronomy into Earth orbit. Our goal is to look
deeper into the cores of galactic nuclei, quasars and other
active radio sources to understand what drives those things we
have seen so far with radio astronomy."
Smith noted that if one examines "the active galactic
nuclei, you'll find jets appearing to spew at speeds greater than
light, and at energy levels that are millions of times greater
than you would expect."
He said some astronomers believe that black holes may be
located in the cores of these galaxies, and that they may fuel
the jets. Smith hopes that "by using Space VLBI to look further
into the cores, this theory may be supported or disproved."
Russian space-flight hardware, including transponders and
transmitters, are now being tested in the United States, and
Japanese hardware is scheduled to arrive for testing later this
year. Analysis of this hardware will permit U.S. scientists and
engineers to understand how to modify the high-speed VLBA
Correlator operating at the NRAO in order to accommodate the odd
data patterns that will originate from the more than 20
ground-based radio telescopes involved in Space VLBI.
Smith is particularly pleased that meetings with the
Japanese and Russian space agency officials -- like those held at
JPL in March -- have proceeded smoothly. Yet he knows that the
political uncertainty in Russia could jeopardize that country's
participation in the project.
"Nothing is ever smooth," he said, "but the Russians have
been incredibly open with us. We always anticipated some
likelihood that we will not succeed because of political factors
beyond our control, yet there tends to be a way of keeping these
things going, because scientists on both sides are trying hard,
and people recognize the value of cooperation at this level."
Smith points out that the Japanese space agency has more at
stake than just fulfilling an international commitment to a
science mission.
"The Japanese have been extremely cooperative, since
international cooperation is essential to their science mission,"
he said.
But Smith also noted that Japanese space agency officials
look at the U.S. Space VLBI mission as an opportunity to showcase
the technology involved with VSOP spacecraft, and their highly
regarded Mach V launch vehicle.
Yet regardless of the risks involved in undertaking such an
ambitious project, JPL's Smith is satisfied that planning for the
Space VLBI Project is beyond the significant financial and
political hurdles that otherwise might threaten the project.
"Fortunately, we have the virtue of having two partners, and
if either falls out, we would still have something with the
other. By themselves, both spacecraft are independent,
scientifically exciting missions."
###
___ _____ ___
/_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
| | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab |
___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand
/___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and
|_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.
|
3812 | From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Subject: Re: Trouble compiling X11R5 on SunOS_4.1.3
Nntp-Posting-Host: adam.fwi.uva.nl
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Lines: 29
epstein@trwacs.fp.trw.com (Jeremy Epstein) writes:
>dmm@head-cfa.harvard.edu (David Meleedy) writes:
>[Description of compiling problems deleted.]
>>gcc -fpcc-struct-return -o bmtoa bmtoa.o -O2 -funroll-loops -L../.././lib/Xmu
>>-lXmu -L../.././lib/Xt -L../.././extensions/lib -L../.././lib/X -L/afs/cfa/syste
>>m/sun4c_413/usr/head/lib/X11/X11R5
>>ld: Undefined symbol
>> _XGetVisualInfo
>> _XFree
>> _XInternAtom
>[etc.]
>There's a bug in SunOS 4.1.3, which is alluded to in the FAQ (although
>there it's talking about X11R4 as being affected). You need to force
>libXmu to be linked statically, rather than dynamically, which works
>around the linker error. The simplest thing to do is edit each of
>the Makefiles where there's a failure and change the line which reads:
> XMULIB = -L$(XMUSRC) -lXmu
>to:
> XMULIB = -L$(XMUSRC) -Bstatic -lXmu -Bdynamic
No. This is only relevant for OpenWindows 3.x as shipped with SunOS.
It is not relevant for MIT R5. MIT R5 should compile without problems.
Casper
|
3813 | From: jwodzia@fadel.uucp (john wodziak)
Subject: Re: Goalie masks
Reply-To: jwodzia@fadel.UUCP (john wodziak)
Organization: Clemson University Engineering Department
Lines: 25
In article <120666@netnews.upenn.edu> kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) writes:
>My vote goes to John Vanbiesbrouck. His mask has a skyline of New York
>City, and on the sides there are a bunch of bees (Beezer). It looks
>really sharp.
Doesn't it also have the Statue of Liberty on it or is that Richter's Mask?
The back actually has a Bee followed by a Z to represent the Beezer. It
also has something that looks like the three interconnecting circles from
the Led Zepplin 4 album cover. Is that what it is supposed to be? and if
it is does anybody know why he would put it there? Ali?
> Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
> "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."
John
"The official Language of Golf is Profanity"
In Hockey Hell...............jwodzia@eng.clemson.edu............John R. Wodziak
The REAL Black and Gold |In Memorium: #7 Alan Kulwicki 1954-1993 | Bean
Will Triumph over those who |A Polish Yankee Mechanical Engineer, | Town
are Pretenders to the Crown.|1992 Winston Cup Champion & a great Person| ROCKS!
|
3814 | Organization: Penn State University
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI
Distribution: world
Lines: 18
In article <1qlbrlINN7rk@dns1.NMSU.Edu>, bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) says:
>In PC Magazine April 27, 1993:29 "Although SCSI is twice as fasst as ESDI,
>20% faster than IDE, and support up to 7 devices its acceptance ...has
>long been stalled by incompatability problems and installation headaches."
I love it when magazine writers make stupid statements like that re:
performance. Where do they get those numbers? I'll list the actual
performance ranges, which should convince anyone that such a
statement is absurd:
SCSI-I ranges from 0-5MB/s.
SCSI-II ranges from 0-40MB/s.
IDE ranges from 0-8.3MB/s.
ESDI is always 1.25MB/s (although there are some non-standard versions)
|
3815 | From: f2ehg786@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Subject: Disappointed by La Cie
Organization: Univ of Miami IR
Lines: 52
Approximately four months ago, I purchased a Quantum 240LPS HD from La Cie for
$649. After two months, the drive started having problems. First, there were
intermittent freezes, then corrupted files and resources, then Silverlining
5.41 wouldn't even recognize the drive. So I got an RMA from La Cie and
exchanged the new drive for a reconditioned one.
Well, about a month has passed now and the second drive is having problems.
Often, when I boot up my IIsi I get the flashing question mark. Sometimes, if I
then insert the Silverlining (5.42) program I can get it to recognize the drive
by making it scan over and over for drives. At that point I can restart the
IIsi and boot from the HD. I've called La Cie again and they've given me
another RMA. Their tech support people tell me that if Silverlining doesn't see
the drive there's a definite hardware problem.
Given that this is the second bad drive in four months, I asked La Cie to send
me a *new* one, but they said "no." Also, within three weeks after I purchased
my original drive, La Cie dropped the price on it by over $100.
I can accept that a drive (or two) may be bad. And I know that hardware vendors
make a practice of sending reconditioned replacements when they do repairs. And
I understand that the nature of the computer industry lends itself to sudden
price fluctuations. Nevertheless, taken together, the convergence of these
facts/events have left a bad taste in my mouth. (I should have added above that
when I asked La Cie to transfer the contents of my current drive to the one
they will send_I think the data is still in good shape and I'll have to again
reinstall everything from floppies_they said it would cost me $250 for data
recovery.)
It seems to me that reconditioned hardware should be sold as reconditioned at a
discounted price, and that replacements for new hardware gone bad (still
covered under a 90-day warranty) should be new.
I feel a little helpless about all this. I don't mean to necessarily flame La
Cie_their support staff have always been friendly and sometimes even helpful.
But c'mon. Sometimes a little extra customer service goes a long way. (I sent
a letter to La Cie's customer service when the first drive was returned and I
asked them for a credit on the price difference since I had purchased the drive
three weeks before they slashed the price. I told them I would like to apply
the credit toward the purchase of another La Cie product. They didn't even
have the courtesy to reply one way or the other.)
What's the moral of this story? I'm not sure. But I do know I won't buy any
other products from La Cie in the future.
Bill Krauthammer
f2ehg786@umiami.ir.miami.edu
PS Please don't email or post about how good your La Cie product and service
has been. I'm not suggesting that they are not a good company or anything like
that. All I'm saying is that I've had a disappointing experience with them and
I'll be taking my business elsewhere in the future.
|
3816 | From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Who, me???
Lines: 41
In article <1qme79$c0k@kyle.eitech.com> ekr@kyle.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>In article <1qm36b$gn2@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>>In article <1qktj3$bn9@squick.eitech.com> ekr@squick.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>>#In article <1qkn1t$59l@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>
>>#Like I said before, DES works whether I value my privacy or
>>#not.
>>
>>O.K., which DES? The abstract function DES? that stops working in any
>>important sense if no-one cares for the importance of truth, mathematics,
>>meaning, information, etc. A DES chip or DES s/w? That stops working in any
>>important sense if no-one values science, objective reality, etc. DES
>>does not work in a value vacuum. Nothing else does, either.
>
>This is just truth by blatant assertion. Your "in any important sense"
>seem to be just weasel words. Imagine that I have a box which
>accepts 16 bytes and uses the first 8 to ECB the second 8.
>It still does a perfect job of DESing, whether or not any input
>is being made at the time--whether or not anyone values mathematics..
If no-one looks at the results, or acknowledges their correctness, in what
meaningful sense can the chip be said to "work"?? Does flibozity exist?
By "flibozity", I mean a particular, extremely complex configuration of
physical phenomena, which no-one, absolutely NO-ONE cares about in the
slightest. Does it exist, Eric?
Getting back to the question of whether the DES chip "works", doesn't "work"
mean something like "achieving the desired/expected effect"? Note the way
intentionality subtly underlies that definition. Even if we take the
definition as "expected", instead of "desired", can you deny that conformance
to expectations is itself a value of sorts, namely the scientific values of
accuracy-of-prediction and reproducibility-of-results?
The phenomenologist Husserl, for one, considered Intentionality to be the
primary ontological "stuff" from which all other ontology was built --
perceptions, consciousness, thoughts, etc. Frank is by no means alone in
seeing intentionality (or "values", as he puts it) underlying all human
experience, even the so-called "objective" experiences, such as
measurements of the natural world, or the output of your DES chip.
- Kevin
|
3817 | From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: California Insurance Commissioner Endorses Federal Legislation to Protect Consumers from Scam Insurance Companies
Distribution: usa
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 111
In article <1993Apr14.164549.24069@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly) writes:
> In article <15342@optilink.COM>, cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# # # And now those "other options" don't exist. We probably agree on this
# # # more than you think--welfare was invented to solve a problem of the
# # # 30's, but the poverty is now so much worse, and our economic infra-
# # # structure has been so eroded, that it just can't keep up any more.
#
# # You mean, since your philosophy took over, the economy has almost
# # collapsed.
#
# Excuse me, *my* philosophy? You don't have any idea what *my* philosophy
# is. The American economy has had its ups and downs through a number of
# prevailing economic philosophies. But then, economics is hardly a science.
In my lifetime, your philosophy -- socialism masquerading as a liberal
welfare state -- has been in ascendancy.
# No, I mean exactly what I wrote--the welfare system of the New Deal is
# wholly inadequate to cope with the current state of affairs.
Absolutely. So the response of socialists is take us even further
into socialism.
# # # # # (2) Whether or not the fathers work
# # # # # is not germane to single mothers.
#
# # # # Very true. But the promotion of casual sexuality is something that
# # # # plays a part in the single mother problem.
#
# # # I'll buy that--and there's lots of reasons for it, extremely far down on
# # # the list being the flash-in-the-pan media attention a bunch of middle-
# # # class dropouts got for their philosophy and experimentation.
#
# # Flash-in-the-pan? No, your subculture has utterly dominated the
# # TV and movie industries for two decades now.
#
# *My* subculture? My, we're getting personal. The only subculture I see
# dominating the TV and movie industries is *money*. If you'll buy it,
# they'll sell it. And as recent movements to boycott TV advertisers have
# shown, they're *very* sensitive about what sells. Whatever happened to
# personal responsibility, anyway? Or am I personally responsible for
# the decline in that, too?
To the extent that people have been encouraged to NOT be responsible
for themselves, yes.
# # # # Come on. You and I both know that the major problem of this society
# # # # today isn't a lack of employment, it's a lack of people willing to work.
#
# # # Huh??? Tell that to the single mother I know who was laid off from
# # # her $10/hour job at a hospital and now works 2 full-time minimum-
# # # wage jobs to barely be able to support herself and her kid. *Barely.*
# # # Hey, she's too proud to go on public assistance, but the only jobs
# # # she can find are menial and with no benefits. And no career path
# # # either--they find excuses to lay people off and hire new ones rather
# # # than give raises and perks. And why not? It's a lot cheaper.
#
# # Oddly enough, all the unskilled or semiskilled people I know manage
# # to find employment almost immediately. Maybe she needs to move to a
# # cheaper part of the country, where jobs are plentiful, and the cost
# # of living is lower.
#
# The west side of Chicago is about as cheap as it gets--squalor city.
# Tell me about all these places where it's cheap to live and jobs are
# abundant--I'll pass them on.
Sonoma County.
# You live in a strange and wondrous place, sir. Inexpensive housing,
Not exactly cheap, but not Los Angeles, either.
# lots of employment, and utterly surrounded by socialists. Well, I suppose
# that's the sort of environment that would attract socialists, or at least
# not dissuade them.
No, it's that areas with a lot of wealthy breed socialists -- all the
spoiled rich kids, feeling guilty about their wealth. But not guilty
enough to give it away -- they just look for politicians to take MY
more limited wealth away.
# # # I see a lot of people willing--nay, eager--to work. What I don't see
# # # is a system that makes it at all feasible to do so. It's not just
# # # welfare, which nobody enjoys, but there just aren't the jobs any more.
# # # When the US was expanding industrial capacity there was always a mill
# # # to go work in--skills to learn, a future. Now there's only McDonalds.
#
# # Odd. Not the experience of anyone I know. Just the opposite.
#
# In California???
Yup.
# # # Mr. Cramer, I was there: Hippiedom was a very low-budget operation.
# # # Our drugs were cheap.
#
# # The money I was referring to was Aid to Families with Druggie
# # Cohabitators (AFDC).
#
# Well, I doubt that much of this goes to drugs--there isn't much left after
# buying food, and there is very little in the first place. Sure, you read
# about such cases now and then, but that's what makes them news. Show me
# your statistics about AFDC abuse.
I can tell you that relatives I have known, the drugs came first, the
food was secondary.
# Ken Perlow ***** *****
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
|
3818 | From: ralph.buttigieg@f635.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Ralph Buttigieg)
Subject: Commercial point of view
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Lines: 29
Original to: szabo@techbook.com
G'day szabo@techbook.com
29 Mar 93 07:28, szabo@techbook.com wrote to All:
sc> szabo@techbook.com (Nick Szabo), via Kralizec 3:713/602
sc> Here are some longer-term markets to consider:
Here are some more:
* Terrestrial illumination from orbiting mirrors.
* World enviroment and disaster monitering system. (the Japanese have
already developed a plan for this, called WEDOS) Although this may be more
of a "public good".
* Space tourism.
* Energy relay satellites
ta
Ralph
--- GoldED 2.41
* Origin: VULCAN'S WORLD - Sydney Australia (02) 635-6797 3:713/6
(3:713/635)
|
3819 | From: nathanp@sco.COM (Nathan)
Subject: Re: Ford Probe - Opinions? (centered around the GT)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation
Lines: 127
"Jeremy G. Mereness" <zonker+@CMU.EDU> says:
>
>Can anyone offer any opinions of the Ford Probe... ala how they do in
>the long run, repair records, reliability, mileage, etc?
>
>I am fixing to buy a car in the next few months aiming toward something
>a little bigger than a typical small car and with a little more power. I
>am considering the MX-6, Probe, Accord, Corolla, and the 240SX.
>
>The Probe is the youngest of the bunch, thus my interest in opinions.
>But every magazine and ratings book places it as an excellent value.
>BTW, the 240SX is rear-wheel drive and is due for a re-design for 1994.
>
>Thanks in Advance!
While I don't read normally read this group, I was looking for Valentine radar
information (sigh, maybe in the FAQ) and came across your posting..
I bought a '93 Probe GT with the PEP 263A last July (now at 9500 miles)
after debating over the Sentra SE-R/NX2000, MX6, MR-2, Stealth, Prelude,
and Celica.
Check this month's Consumer Reports for previous Probe records.
My criteria: a "fun" car with ABS, airbag, over 130hp, and less than $25K.
I thought about a turbo, but checking with insurance people ruled that out.
The Tri-Star cars (Eclipse/Talon/etc) were out since they don't have an air bag.
Ditto for the Mustang(also no ABS).
The SE-R/NX2000/M20 fell into the pocket-rocket category. A good used car buy.
The MX-6 was almost there but rolled more than I liked.
I didn't like the Prelude dash/instrumentation at all. Too weird for me.
The MR2 has a much smaller non-passenger space than I needed, so out that went.
The Celica was "ok" but underpowered when loaded with options (and somewhat
overpriced too) in non-turbo form.
I never considered the 240SX since it didn't have an airbag. I did look at it
for its RWD virtues but that's it. The Corolla never entered my mind.
I should have looked at the Mitsubishi VR4/Dodge Stealth more.
Since my list was exhausted, I bought the Probe. :-)
The car design is different than earlier years, so it's too early to see its
reliability so far. For what it's worth, my comments:
My dislikes:
Shutting door with windows up from inside rarely makes good wind seal.
Headlights have "stuck" up a few times (weather?)
air conditioning broke ~4000 miles (pressure cycling switch)
condensation around rear washer fluid container doesn't drain completely.
crammed engine; little hope for do-it-yourselfers (typical)
parts somewhat more expensive than normal Ford parts
underside plastic doesn't like sharp driveways and speedbumps (typical).
assembly gripes: tape on radiator, screw fell out of dash, seat seams not
stitched properly. Hopefully just a fluke.
Ford only gives 1 key with the car. C'mon Ford, spend an extra few pennies!
Rear hatch has no padding on corners when up. I'm waiting for the day when
I bash my head on the corner.
horn buttons behind air bag in spokes and not in center (personal preference)
Tires fling dirt/mud onto side of car
My Likes:
engine (design/valves/sounds/smoothness/power/mileage/torque) -- definitely #1
handling (very good for FWD; understeer only at limits)
transmission (the 5 speed is a must)
usable instrumentation (lovely readable analog everywhere)
Very little torque steer at full power (much better than the '90 SHO I drive)
stability at 100+mph (high gearing though)
low cowl (good visibility in front)
Heated outside mirrors (nice in fog, never tested in freezing weather)
ABS/Air bag (see above)
rear seats fold down (I have few rear seat passengers so a trunk not important)
No shake/rattle noises when going over bumps/potholes (still!)
Tires: 225/55VR16 Goodyear Eagles (70% left; hoping for 30K :-)
As you can see, I'm primarily interested in the engine. While it doesn't
have the uummmph of a big-liter car or the turbo rush, the big selling
point for me was the all-aluminum 24 value 2.5 liter engine.
The overall car is a good buy for the money. That market segment hasn't changed
much since July (Prelude VTEC, Honda Del Sol??). I drive it to and from work
each day on relatively smooth roads, and most noticable thing is that the
Probe's suspension doesn't like potholes. When you test drive one, find a
potholed road somewhere around town and see if the jarring you get is tolerable.
If you have 3+ passengers, by all means bring them along too. They'll find
that they have no room in the back and you'll find that the car rides
differently (if that's "better" is up to you). Also, there's a lot of glass
around you which I wasn't expecting; the temperature inside the car gets pretty
hot in the summer. My back seat passengers (now very few) complain about
the lack of ventilation; you may want to consider that when combined with
the heat. I've heard that the exhaust system has trouble, but mine works fine.
Leather and the keyless entry system weren't available when I got the car so
I can't comment on them (I got the car before it was officially announced).
I prefer cloth to leather anyway.
I wouldn't want this car in the snow: The suspension is too rough for the
inevitable surprise potholes, tires aren't meant for snow, and the seats assume
that you're not wearing lots of thick clothing. Rain is much better: water
generally beads off the windshield at freeway speed, the windshield wiper
controls are easy and understandable, and I barely hydroplaned once with the
Eagles (and I was really trying).
There is also a definite lack of cup holder/small storage places. The GT
has map holders below the speakers in the door, but they're rigid plastic
that could fit two cassettes or CD's max. The center console/storage bin/arm
rest has *1* cup holder and the back of the front seats have a cloth "pouch"
but that's it. No change holders. Quite a let-down from the SHO.
And the Probe is definitely not a people-mover car or an econo-box car!
Lastly, don't store wet car covers in the back. The foam will soak the
water up and the result will *not* smell pleasant :-(.
Nathan
nathan@sco.com
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|Jeremy Mereness | Support | Ye Olde Disclaimer: |
>|zonker+@cmu.edu (internet) | Free | The above represent my|
>| FAST Project, CMU-GSIA | Software| opinions, alone. |
>|B.S. Mechanical Engineering, CMU| | Ya Gotta Love It. |
>| Every Silver Lining's Got a Touch of Grey |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This year marks the 200th anniversary of the Bill of Rights
>
--
MX: nathan@sco.com
"NO COMMENT"/They're coming to take me away, Ha-Ha! -- Napolean XIV
|
3820 | From: straw@cam.nist.gov (Mike_Strawbridge_x3852)
Subject: need help with Athena Text Widget
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology, Gaithersburg, MD
Lines: 24
I want to create a single-line Text widget for entering a small amount of text.
I want it to be of fixed width, but have a horizontal scrollbar that scrolls
automatically when the user types in order to keep the insertion point
visible.
In trying to do this I have two problems:
- The addition of the horizontal scrollbar does not make the text widget
taller, but instead it seems to cover part of the text.
- The scrollbar does not scroll automatically as the user types in text
in order to keep the insertion point visible.
Any help is appreciated.
Mike
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
NAME: Michael Strawbridge TELE: (301) 975-3852
USMAIL: National Institute of Standards ARPA: straw@cam.nist.gov
and Technology UUCP: uunet!cme-durer!straw
Rm. B-146, Bldg. 225
Gaithersburg, MD 20899
|
3821 | From: poe@wharton.upenn.edu
Subject: AMD i486 clones: Now legal in US?!?!?!
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Lines: 7
Nntp-Posting-Host: fred.wharton.upenn.edu
A friend of mine called me on the phone and told me he was wathcing CNN
and saw a report that the ruling prohibiting AMD from selling their i486
clones has been thrown out, making it legal for AMD to ship in the US.
Can anyone out there verify this?
Thanks in advance
Phil
|
3822 | From: Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (RPH)
Subject: Power Arc II Ignition, Super E Carb
X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0b14@dartmouth.edu
Organization: HOG HEAVEN
Lines: 35
Now the bike is off warranty, I finally replaced the stock items on my
Softail Custom with the title ones. Installation was pretty easy in
both cases, even for a fairly non-mechanical chemist type dude like me!
I discovered the limitations of my tool collection, but had fun buying
and making the requisite tools!
MC Ignitions Power Arc II Single Fire Ignition: easy to install, but
read the wiring diagram carefully! Setting the static timing was a
piece of cake. Once installed, I have found easier starting, smoother
idle, and more power, plus a more satisfying (to me) bass note in the
exhaust register...a lovely whompa-whompa-whompa idle :-)
The folks at MC Ignitions were great in answering my dumb questions on
the phone..... a very helpful bunch of guys with a great product.
S&S Super E Carb: installation easy, once I hacked down an Allen wrench
to a small anough reach to get at the intake manifold bolts. Tunes like
a dream, just like they say! The stock carb (non-adjustable) was so
lean that it was gasping and spluttering for gas sometimes, and even
backfiring into the intake manifold. The Super E is terrific, no
hesitation in any gear, and my plugs are a lovely tan color with no
need to rejet from the factory settings!
I know this may not seem like much to you grizzled veteran wrenchers
out there, but I had my bike in so many pieces this weekend I began to
get worried. But it all went back together again, and runs like a
dream, so I am feeling pretty happy.
Now all I have to do is install my BUB pipes and try to pass the NH
Noise Gestapo Test!
Russ Hughes '92 FXSTC DoD# 6022(10E20)
"Love ...yeah, that's the feeling you get when you like something
as much as your motorcycle."
--Sonny Barger
|
3823 | From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack)
Subject: Re: was:Go Hezbollah!!
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Lines: 33
In article <C5I7J7.F7A@eis.calstate.edu> mafifi@eis.calstate.edu (Marc A Afifi) writes:
>resistance fighters. Don't forget that it was the French Resistance to the
>Nazi occupying forces which eventually succeeded in driving out the
>hostile occupiers in WWII.
And all this time I thought it was the US & Britian invading
Normandy, the constant, round the clock bombing, and the fact that the
Germans were fighting on two fronts. How silly of me. :)
This is not to devalue the actions of the resistance
movements, but resistance movements did not defeat the Nazis.
>Diplomacy has not worked with Israel and the
>Lebanese people are tired of being occupied! They are now turning to the
>only option they see as viable. (Don't forget that it worked in driving
>out the US)
Israel has repeatedly stated that it will leave when the
Lebanese government shows that it can prevent attacks on Israel, and
when the Syrians agree to leave.
The Lebanese have not tried diplomacy for very long, or maybe
they're not capable of getting rid of the Syrians and Iranians who
occupy their land. If they closed down the Hezbolah, and negotiated a
withdrawl of Syrian forces, Israel would be happy to leave.
Adam
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
|
3824 | From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Subject: Re: Remember those names come election time.
Keywords: usa federal, government, international, non-usa government
Nntp-Posting-Host: gs135.sp.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Lines: 15
I said:
In article <C5u4qI.Mz4@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
>
> Besides, there's no case that can be made for US military involvement
> there that doesn't apply equally well to, say, Liberia, Angola, or
> (it appears with the Khmer Rouge's new campaign) Cambodia. Non-whites
> don't count?
Hmm...some might say Kuwaitis are non-white. Ooops, I forgot, Kuwaitis are
"oil rich", "loaded with petro-dollars", etc so they don't count.
...and let's not forget Somalia, which is about as far from white as it
gets.
That's two in a row, care to try for more?
|
3825 | From: tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Ts'o)
Subject: Re: How much memory for WP for Windows?
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx
Lines: 8
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu
In article <1ps6pjINNdua@rave.larc.nasa.gov> jka@air77.larc.nasa.gov writes:
) The documentation says that Wordperfect for windows, requires 4 M of ram, but
)when I try to install it on my laptop I get a not enough memory error message.
)I've unloaded everything that I possibly could but still, NOT ENOUGH MEMORY.
)Anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening.
Are you sure you're not running Windows in real mode ? Is it Windows
3.1 ? Do you have a permanent swapfile built ?
|
3826 | From: acooney@netcom.com (Alan Cooney)
Subject: Re: Membrane keypad with custom legend.
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Lines: 21
Try the folks at Dimolex Corp., La Crescenta, CA 91214.
Their number is (818) 957-7001. They make membrane keypads
that are very flat, in layouts from 2 to 128 keys. They
have standard models, tactile models (with stainless domes
under each key to make a 'click' you can feel), as well as
backlit models. Some of them can even be cut with scissors
to form a funky shape other than a rectangle. Many of the
models are available in a 'kit' which includes a bezel,
colored and plain key covers, and rub on lettering to make
your own layout. One piece prices aren't cheap, though,
as they want $10 for one four position pad *kit*, and $45
for a 40 position *kit*.
I have no affiliation with Dimolex or any company connected
with them. I *have* purchased a couple of keypads from them,
and am pleased with what I got.
Cheers,
Alan
<acooney@netcom.com>
|
3827 | Subject: Omnipotence (was Re: Speculations)
From: jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com
Lines: 55
In article <2942949719.2.p00261@psilink.com>, "Robert Knowles" <p00261@psilink.com> writes:
>>DATE: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 23:02:22 -0500
>>FROM: Nanci Ann Miller <nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
>>
>>
>>> > 3. Can god uncreate itself?
>>>
>>> No. For if He did, He would violate His own nature which He cannot do.
>>> It is God's nature to Exist. He is, after all, the "I AM" which is
>>> a statement of His inherent Existence. He is existence itself.
>>> Existence cannot "not-exist".
>>
>>Then, as mentioned above, he must not be very omnipotent.
>>
What do you mean by omnipotent here? Do you mean by "omnipotent"
that God should be able to do anything/everything? This creates
a self-contradictory definition of omnipotence which is effectively
useless.
To be descriptive, omnipotence must mean "being all-powerful" and
not "being able to do anything/everything".
Let me illustrate by analogy.
Suppose the United States were the only nuclear power on earth. Suppose
further that the US military could not effectively be countered by any
nation or group of nations. The US has the power to go into any country
at any time for any reason to straighten things out as the leaders of the
US see fit. The US would be militarily "omnipotent".
But suppose further that the US holds to a doctrine/philosophy of not
interfering in the internal affairs of any nation, such as the current
civil war in the former Yugoslavian states.
Technically (in this scenario) the US would have the power to
unilaterally go into Yugoslavia and straighten out the mess. But
effectively the US could not intervene without violating its own policy
of non-interference. If the policy of non-interference were held to
strongly enough, then there would never be a question that it would
ever be violated. Effectively, the US would be limited in what it
could actually do, although it had the power to do "whatever it wanted".
The US would simply "never want to interfere" for such an idea would
be beyond the consideration of its leaders given such an inviolate
non-interference policy.
God is effectively limited in the same sense. He is all powerful, but
He cannot use His power in a way that would violate the essence of what
He, Himself is.
I hope this helps to clear up some of the misunderstanding concerning
omnipotence.
Regards,
Jim B.
|
3828 | Subject: SIGMA Designs Video/Sound card
From: srini@shannon.tisl.ukans.edu (Srini Seetharam)
Reply-To: srini@shannon.tisl.ukans.edu (Srini Seetharam)
Distribution: world
Organization: Elec. & Comp. Eng., Univ. of Kansas
Nntp-Posting-Host: morse.tisl.ukans.edu
Originator: srini@morse
Lines: 10
Does anyone out there use a SIGMA designs VIDEO/SOUND card ?
The model is called WIN-STORM-PC .
They also have one model the Legend-24lx
Any info on these like performance and compatibility,
or even problems encountered will be appreciated.
thanks
srini.w.seetharam
|
3829 | From: isaackuo@skippy.berkeley.edu (Isaac Kuo)
Subject: Re: Abyss--breathing fluids
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Lines: 19
NNTP-Posting-Host: skippy.berkeley.edu
Are breathable liquids possible?
I remember seeing an old Nova or The Nature of Things where this idea was
touched upon (it might have been some other TV show). If nothing else, I know
such liquids ARE possible because...
They showed a large glass full of this liquid, and put a white mouse (rat?) in
it. Since the liquid was not dense, the mouse would float, so it was held down
by tongs clutching its tail. The thing struggled quite a bit, but it was
certainly held down long enough so that it was breathing the liquid. It never
did slow down in its frantic attempts to swim to the top.
Now, this may not have been the most humane of demonstrations, but it certainly
shows breathable liquids can be made.
--
*Isaac Kuo (isaackuo@math.berkeley.edu) * ___
* * _____/_o_\_____
* Twinkle, twinkle, little .sig, *(==(/_______\)==)
* Keep it less than 5 lines big. * \==\/ \/==/
|
3830 | From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Subject: Re: A question about 120VAC outlet wiring..
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Lines: 21
crisp@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Russ Crisp) writes:
>SO.. Here's my question. It seems to me that I'd have the
>same electrical circuit if I hooked a jumper from the neutral
>over to the ground screw on new 'three prong' grounding outlets.
>What's wrong with my reasoning here?
May I respectfully suggest you NOT do this?? The ground is
supposed to be a protective ground, and though what you suggest
looks good on paper, it's dangerous to rely on the same wire for
power and protection. It'd never meet code, and if you now own
the property and later sell it, you may end up with liabilities
you don't want, and if you _don't_ now own it, well...
There's a "wiring" FAQ that I think addresses this. I believe
an alternative is use of a GFCI, but I'm really not sure what
current code allows in this area. The GFCI senses alternate
(unwanted) current paths, and doesn't rely on a specific
protective ground wire, at least not beyond the GFCI in the
protected circuit. GFCI breakers are available (but expensive).
|
3831 | From: gtd597a@prism.gatech.EDU (Hrivnak)
Subject: Re: LIST OF TEE TIMES AT METROPOLITAN TORONTO GOLF COURSES FOR MONDAY
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Lines: 14
In article <1993Apr20.194441.23595@julian.uwo.ca> lee139@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Steve Lee) writes:
>Woops! This is rec.sport.hockey! Not rec.sport.golf! Hope you check the
>newsgroup header next time before posting!
Duh! He was making a joke about how long the Leafs would last in the
playoffs. (Y'know, hit the courses in the off season). Sheesh... People are
so quick to complain...
--
GO SKINS! ||"Now for the next question... Does emotional music have quite
GO BRAVES! || an effect on you?" - Mike Patton, Faith No More
GO HORNETS! ||
GO CAPITALS! ||Mike Friedman (Hrivnak fan!) Internet: gtd597a@prism.gatech.edu
|
3832 | From: jcl@bdrc.bd.com (John C. Lusth)
Subject: Kentucky Fried CMOS beats Hardees!
Organization: Becton Dickinson Research Center; RTP, N.C.
Lines: 37
Nntp-Posting-Host: otis.bdrc.bd.com
Hey folks.
Is it possible to short out your CMOS chip? I think mine is fried.
These are the symptoms...
I have to do the following to get my computer (a Gateway 486DX33)
to boot...
Turn the power off
Disconnect the battery to the CMOS chip
Turn the power on
Get into setup upon getting the CMOS configuration error
Set up the CMOS
Exit the setup with [F10] (phoenix bios)
Ignore the diskette 0 seek error and press [F1]
The computer then boots normally. Both hard drives are accessible
but the floppy drives are not.
I can back up over the network and such, but if I need to reboot,
I have to turn off the computer and repeat the steps above. If I
simply <Ctl>-<Alt>-<Del>, the computer hangs after the memory test.
Does this sound like the CMOS chip is fried? Can I buy another one?
Where?
Thank you for your kind attention.
john
--
John C. Lusth, Becton Dickinson Research Center, RTP, NC, USA jcl@bdrc.bd.com
|
3833 | From: jchen@wind.bellcore.com (Jason Chen)
Subject: MILITECH
Nntp-Posting-Host: wind.bellcore.com
Reply-To: jchen@ctt.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Lines: 34
I saw an interesting product in NY Auto Show, and would like to
hear your comments.
MILITECH(tm) is yet another oil additive. But the demonstration of this
product really impressive, if it didn't cheat.
The setup of the demo is fairly simple. A cone shaped rotor is
half submerged in a small oil sink, filled with motor oil. The rotor
is powered by an electronic motor. A metal pad is pressed against
the rotor using the torque wrench until the rotor stopped by friction.
The torque that is needed to stop rotor is read from the torque wrench.
Before MILITECH was added, the rotor was stopped with about 60 lb-ft
of torque (You pick the brand of oil, no difference). Once MILITECH was
added to the oil, the rotor could not be stopped even with 120+ lb-ft of
torque.
Here is the good part: even after the salesman emptied the oil sink,
you still could not stopped the rotor with the thin film remained on it.
They say you need only add 2oz per quart of oil every 15k miles. A 16 oz
bottle is $25.
I still have my doubts. If this product is really so great, why it was
so little known? The salesman said it is widely used in military. I didn't
believe it. The demo was so impressive, that I bought a bottle against
my common sense.
Has anyone heard of or actually used this product? Is it real?
If you are going to the auto show, please visit this stand on the
second floor. See if can find out if the demo is a hoax or not.
Jason Chen
|
3834 | From: brow2812@mach1.wlu.ca (craig brown 9210 u)
Subject: Re: Stop The SeXularHumanistOppression { former my beloved Damn Ferigner's Be Taken Over}
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Lines: 35
In article <C5HIu1.8A9@spss.com> gregotts@spss.com (Greg Otts) writes:
>In article <C5HCrw.Dn3@junior.BinTec.DE> muftix@junior.BinTec.DE (Juergen Ernst Guenther) writes:
>>
>>I never understood why Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians etc. accusing
>>US. people for imperialism though think of them as "The Americans".
>>
>>Not few Europeans think of you all as Americans (and of the US. as
>>a bunch of blasphemeous trash that GOD has to extinguish sooner or later ...;)
>>
>> .m.
>
>It would not be surprising that a continent that produced fascism, communism,
>and two world wars might have quite a few people who tend to think of other
>people as trash that should be extinguished sooner or later. I seem to
>remember a gut called Hitler who felt the same way. One wonders what would be
>the fate of Europe if God had extinguished this nation of blasphemeous trash
>before 1917. (Not that I believe in gods.) How many millions of people through-
>out the world would have to die because no force could stop the insane, bloody
>European imperialism? Thankfully the "imperialistic" US helped put an end to
>these games so that the rest of the world can sleep alittle more safely. Thus, I
>could care less what "not few Europeans" think so long as they can't do anything
>about it.
>
> - Greg Otts
>
>These opinions are entirely my own.
>
But remember that had God extinguished the blasphemous trash of Europe (and
Imperialism with it), the United States would not exist today to put an end
to those "games"....begs the question, which came first, the chicken or the
egg???
C.Brown
|
3835 | From: st1my@rosie.uh.edu (Stich, Christian E.)
Subject: Re: Motorola XC68882RC33 and RC50
Organization: University of Houston
Lines: 26
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
Keywords: Motorola, FPU, 68882, 68030, 33/50 MHz, problems (FPU exception)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <16APR199323531467@rosie.uh.edu>, st1my@rosie.uh.edu (Stich, Christian E.) writes...
>I just installed a Motorola XC68882RC50 FPU in an Amiga A2630 board (25 MHz
>68030 + 68882 with capability to clock the FPU separately). Previously
>a MC68882RC25 was installed and everything was working perfectly. Now the
>systems displays a yellow screen (indicating a exception) when it check for
>the presence/type of FPU. When I reinstall an MC68882RC25 the system works
>fine, but with the XC68882 even at 25 MHz it does not work. The designer
>of the board mentioned that putting a pullup resistor on data_strobe (470 Ohm)
>might help, but that didn't change anything. Does anybody have some
>suggestions what I could do? Does this look like a CPU-FPU communications
>problem or is the particular chip dead (it is a pull, not new)?
>Moreover, the place I bought it from is sending me an XC68882RC33. I thought
>that the 68882RC33 were labeled MC not XC (for not finalized mask design).
>Are there any MC68882RC33?
>
>Thanks
> Christian
>
It appears as if the problem is related to the 68882/50's need for very fast
(and clean) signal transitions. I got some email (Vielen Dank, Thomas) stating
that Motorola provides a solution for this problem in their 68030 manual.
Since my manual (1989) predates the 50 MHz 68030/68882s I couldn't find it.
Could someone please email me the specifics?
Thanks
Christian
|
3836 | From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Boom! Whoosh......
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 21
In article <1r46ofINNdku@gap.caltech.edu> palmer@cco.caltech.edu (David M. Palmer) writes:
>>orbiting billboard...
>
>I would just like to point out that it is much easier to place an
>object at orbital altitude than it is to place it with orbital
>velocity. For a target 300 km above the surface of Earth,
>you need a delta-v of 2.5 km/s. Assuming that rockets with specific
>impulses of 300 seconds are easy to produce, a rocket with a dry
>weight of 50 kg would require only about 65 kg of fuel+oxidizer...
Unfortunately, if you launch this from the US (or are a US citizen),
you will need a launch permit from the Office of Commercial Space
Transportation, and I think it may be difficult to get a permit for
an antisatellite weapon... :-)
The threshold at which OCST licensing kicks in is roughly 100km.
(The rules are actually phrased in more complex ways, but that is
the result.)
--
All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
|
3837 | From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Space Station Redesign, JSC Alternative #4
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 10
In article <23APR199317452695@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov> dbm0000@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Mckissock) writes:
> - Man-Tended Capability (Griffin has not yet adopted non-sexist
> language) ...
Glad to see Griffin is spending his time on engineering rather than on
ritual purification of the language. Pity he got stuck with the turkey
rather than one of the sensible options.
--
SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
between SVR3 and SunOS. - Dick Dunn | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
|
3838 | From: jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler)
Subject: Re: SSPX schism ?
Organization: none
Lines: 240
Larry L. Overacker writes, responding to Simon:
I may be interesting to see some brief selections posted to the
net. My understanding is that SSPX does not consider ITSELF in
schism or legitimately excommunicated. But that's really beside
the point. What does the Roman Catholic church say?
Excommunication can be real apart from formal excommunication, as
provided for in canon law.
Here's some of the theology involved for the interested.
There is confusion over this issue of the SSPX's "schism"; often the
basic problem is lack of an ability to distinguish between:
- true obedience
- false obedience
- disobedience
- schism
Take the various classifications of obedience first. There are 2
important elements involved here for my purposes:
1) a command
2) the response made to the command
As far as the command goes, commands can be LEGITIMATE, such as the
Pope ordering Catholics to not eat meat on Fridays. Or they can be
ILLEGITIMATE, such as the Pope ordering Catholics to worship the god
Dagon when every other full moon comes around.
As far as the response to a command goes, it can be to REFUSE to do
what is commanded, or to COMPLY.
Making a table, there are thus 4 possibilites:
command response name
-----------------------------------------------------
LEGITIMATE COMPLY true obedience
ILLEGITIMATE REFUSE true obedience
LEGITIMATE REFUSE disobedience
ILLEGITIMATE COMPLY false obedience
So now you see where my 3 classifications of obedience come from.
Obedience is not solely a matter of compliance/refusal. The nature of
the commands must also be taken into account; it is not enough to
consider someone's compliance or refusal and then say whether they are
"obedient" or "disobedient". You also have to take into consideration
whether the commands are good or bad.
In my example, if the Pope commands all Catholics to worship the god
Dagon, and they all refuse, they aren't being disobedient at all!
As far as the Society of Saint Pius X goes, they are certainly
refusing to comply with certain things the Pope desires. But that
alone is insufficient to allow one to label them "disobedient". You
also have to consider the nature of the Papal desires.
And there's the rub: SSPX says the Popes since Vatican II have been
commanding certain very bad things for the Church. The Popes have of
course disagreed.
So where are we? Are we in another Arian heresy, complete with weak
Popes? Or are the SSPX priests modern Martin Luthers? Well, the only
way to answer that is to examine who is saying what, and what the
traditional teaching of the Church is.
The problem here is that very few Catholics have much of an idea of
what is really going on, and what the issues are. The religion of
American Catholics is especially defective in intellectual depth. You
will never read about the issues being discussed in the Catholic press
in this country. (On the other hand, one Italian Catholic magazine I
get -- 30 Days -- has had interviews with the Superior General of the
Society of Saint Pius X.)
Many Catholics will decide to side with the Pope. There is some
soundness in this, because the Papacy is infallible, so eventually
some Pope *will* straighten all this out. But, on the other hand,
there is also unsoundness in this, in that, in the short term, the
Popes may indeed be wrong, and such Catholics are doing nothing to
help the situation by obeying them where they're wrong. In fact, if
the situation is grave enough, they sin in obeying him. At the very
least, they're wasting a great opportunity, because they are failing
to love Christ in a heroic way at the very time that He needs this
badly.
Schism... let's move on to schism. What is it?
Schism is a superset of disobedience (refusal to obey a legitimate
command). All schismatics are disobedient. But it's a superset, so
it doesn't work the other way around: not all disobeyers are
schismatics. The mere fact that the SSPX priests don't comply with
the Holy Father's desires doesn't make them schismatics.
So what is it that must be added to disobedience to constitute a
schism? Maybe this something else makes the SSPX priests schismatics.
You must add this: the rejection of the right to command. Look in any
decent reference on Catholic theology, and that's what you'll find:
the distinguishing criterion of schism is rejection of the right to
command.
Here's what the Catholic Encyclopedia says, for example:
... not every disobedience is a schism; in order to possess this
character it must include besides the trangression of the commands
of superiors, denial of their Divine right to command.
(from the CE article "Schism")
Is the Society of Saint Pius X then schismatic? The answer is a clear
no: they say that the Pope is their boss. They pray for him every
day. And that's all that matters as far as schism goes.
What all this boils down to is this: if we leave aside the
consideration of the exact nature of their objections, their position
is a legitimate one, as far as the Catholic theology of obedience and
schism goes. They are resisting certain Papal policies because they
think that they are clearly contrary to the traditional teaching of
the Papacy, and the best interests of the Church. (In fact, someone
who finds himself in this situation has a *duty* to resist.)
Now, what is the stance of Rome on all this? Well, if you read the
Holy Father's motu proprio "Ecclesia Dei", you can find out. It's the
definitive document on the subject. A motu proprio is a specifically
Papal act. It's not the product of a Roman congregation, a letter
that the Pope has possibly never even read. It's from the Pope
himself. His boss is God... there's no one else to complain to.
In this document, the Holy Father says, among other things:
1) The episcopal consecrations performed by Archbishop Lefebvre
constituted a schismatic act.
2) Archbishop Lefebvre's problem was a misunderstanding of the nature
of Tradtion.
Both are confusing: I fail to see the logic of the Pope's points.
As far as the episcopal consecrations go, I read an interesting
article in a translation of the Italian magazine "Si Si No No". It
all gets back to the question of jurisdiction. If episcopal
consecrations imply rejection of the Pope's jurisdiction, then they
would truly constitute a schismatic act, justifying excommunication
under the current code of canon law. But my problem with this is
this: according to the traditional theology of Holy Orders, episcopal
consecration does not confer jurisdiction. It only confers the power
of Order: the ability to confect the Sacraments. Jurisdiction must be
conferred by someone else with the power to confer it (such as the
Pope). The Society bishops, knowing the traditional theology quite
well, take great pains to avoid any pretence of jurisdiction over
anyone. They simply confer those Sacraments that require a bishop.
The "Si Si No No" article was interesting in that it posited that the
reason that the Pope said what he did is that he has a novel,
post-Vatican II idea of Holy Orders. According to this idea,
episcopal consecration *does* confer jurisdiction. I lent the article
to a friend, unfortunately, so can't tell you more. I believe they
quoted the new code of canon law in support of this idea.
The Pope's thinking on this point remains a great puzzle to me.
There's no way there is a schism, according to traditional Catholic
theology. So why does the Pope think this?
As far as the points regarding the nature of Tradition goes, here's
the passage in question:
The root of this schismatic act can be discerned in an incomplete
and contradictory notion of Tradtion. Incomplete, because it does
not take sufficiently into the account the living character of
Tradition, which, as the Second Vatican Council clearly taught,
comes from the apostles and progresses in the Church with the
help of the Holy Spirit. There is a growth in insight into
the realities and words that are being passed on. This comes
about in various ways. It comes through the contemplation and
study of believers who ponder these things in their hearts.
It comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which
they experience. And it comes from the preaching of those who
have received, along with their right of succession in the
espiscopate, the sure charism of truth.
But especially contradictory is a notion of Tradition which
opposes the universal Magisterium of the Church possessed by the
Bishop of Rome and the body of bishops. It is impossible to
remain faithful to the Tradition while breaking the ecclesial bond
with him to whom, in the person of the Apostle Peter, Christ
himself entrusted the ministry of unity in His Church.
(Papal motu proprio "Ecclesia Dei", 2 July 1988)
It seems to me that the Holy Father is making two points here that can
be simplified to the following:
- Vatican Council II has happened.
- I am the Pope.
The argument being that either case is sufficient to prove that
Archbishop Lefebvre must be wrong, because he disagrees with them.
This is weak, to say the least!
It would have helped clarify things more if the Pope had addressed
Archbishop Lefebvre's concerns in detail. What is John Paul II's
stand on the social Kingship of Christ, as taught by Gregory XVI, Pius
IX, Leo XIII, Pius XI and Pius XII, for example? Are we supposed to
ignore what all these Popes said on the subject?
I don't know what the future will hold, but the powers that be in the
SSPX are still talking with Rome and trying to straighten things out.
--------------------------------------------------------------
[Many people would prefer to call a justified refusal to obey
"justified disobedience" or even "obeying God rather than man".
Calling a refusal to obey obedience puts us into a sort of Alice in
Wonderland world where words mean whatever we want them to mean.
Similarly, schism indicates a formal break in the church. If the Pope
says that a schism exists, it seems to me that by definition it
exists. It may be that the Pope is on the wrong side of the break,
that there is no good reason for the break to exist, and that it will
shortly be healed. But how can one deny that it does in fact exist?
It seems to me that you are in grave danger of destroying the thing
you are trying to reform: the power of the papacy. What good will it
do you if you become reconciled to the the Pope in the future, but in
the process, you have destroyed his ability to use the tools of church
discipline? It's one thing to hold that the Pope has misused his
powers, and excommunicated someone wrongly. It's something else to
say that his excommunication did not take effect, and the schism is
all in his imagination. That means that acts of church discipline are
not legal tools, but acts whose validity is open to debate. Generally
it has been liberal Catholics who have had problems with the Pope.
While they have often objected to church sanctions, generally they
have admitted that the sanctions exist. You are now opening the door
to people simply ignoring papal decisions, claiming to be truly
obeying by disobeying, and to be in communion while excommunicated.
This would seem to be precisely the denial of Divine right to command
that you say defines schism.
--clh]
|
3839 | From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)
Subject: Re: What is going on?...
Lines: 17
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Distribution: inet
In article <1993Apr16.055100.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes:
...
> If you can't be bothered reading, get the video "Manufacturing Consent".
>
In reply to mail queries; I don't know if a video is available yet. I asked
about a month ao and was told RSN.
Several have also asked which of Chomskys books. My answer is ALL of them, and
anything else you can get as well. How ever, due to irritations like the 24 hr
day etc, I would say 'Manafacturing Conscent' first, them th last parts of
'Detering Democracy' ie the bits about the "domestic 3rd world". Chilling.
Anyone at MIT have a good St. Noam bibliography?
~Paul
|
3840 | From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser)
Subject: Double sonic booms.
Originator: news@nimaster
Nntp-Posting-Host: luma.princeton.edu
Organization: Princeton University
Lines: 16
Every time you read about a shuttle landing they mention the double sonic
booms. Having taken various relevant classes, I have several ideas of where
they come from, but none of them are very convincing. Exactly what causes
them? Are they a one time pheneomenon, or a constant one like the supersonic
shockwave that is constantly produced by a plane, but you hear only when it
goes over you?
---
---------------------------------------------------------------------
| Carlos G. Niederstrasser | Only two things are infinite, |
| Princeton Planetary Society | the universe and human |
| | stupidity, and I'm not sure |
| | about the former. - Einstein |
| carlosn@phoenix.princeton.edu |---------------------------------|
| space@phoenix.princeton.edu | Ad Astra per Ardua Nostra |
---------------------------------------------------------------------
|
3841 | From: robm@ataraxia.Berkeley.EDU (Rob McNicholas)
Subject: FOR SALE: 1984 Toyota Pickup - $2800
Organization: Technical and Computing Services, U.C. Berkeley, Berkeley, CA
Lines: 26
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: ataraxia.berkeley.edu
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THIS ACCOUNT
FOR SALE:
Blue 1984 Toyota pickup truck with white blazer topper, AM/FM/Casette,
A/C, cruise control. Great for camping trips.
New: brakes, master brake cylinder, Michelin tires, shocks,
maintenance free battery, clutch, windshield wipers.
Well maintained with all Toyota parts (all repairs done at the
dealers.) Very little rust, body in good shape.
126K miles
Asking $2800. If interested, please contact:
Ursula Fritsch
umf@gene.com
(415)-347-6813
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THIS ACCOUNT
--
Rob McNicholas Technical & Computing Services, EE/CS, U.C. Berkeley
robm@eecs.berkeley.edu Voice: 510/642-8633 FAX: 510/643-7846
|
3842 | From: rmohns@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Need Windows-logo
Organization: Clark University
Lines: 46
In a previous article, dmmatt@cajun wrote:
>In article <1qjqed$1ft@access.digex.net>, holland@access.digex.com (Brian Holland) writes:
>> Markus Maier (S_MAIER_M@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de) wrote:
>> : Hi,
>>
>> : Well I'm searching for the Ms-Windows logo, u know the picture when u
>> : start Windows, in some suitable grafics-format, like gif or jpg,...
>>
>> C:\windows\system\vgalogo.rle. If my memory serves me correctly,
>> *.rle is a compressed *.bmp format.
>>
> An is readable by WinGif, Paintshop Pro, Paint, and god knows how
>many other programs.
That isn't enough to change your Windows startup logo. vgalogo.rle is not
needed after you have installed Windows. It is incorporated as a part of
win.com.
To make a new win.com, you have to concatinate three files together,
using the /b option for a binary concatonation. I beleive it is
copy /b win.cnf+vgalogo.lgo+vgalogo.rle mywin.com
Make sure you backup your win.com file in anotehr directory before you do this
-- I absent-mindedly typed win.com instead of mywin.com and had to resinstall
Windows!
Anyway, substitute whatever .RLE file you want. The win.cnf has the
info needed to start Windows (think of it as a bootstrap) and vgalogo.vga has
video information. Just make sure that the .RLE file doesn't tip the whole
COM file size over the 64k limit of a .COM file!
So anyway, I use mywin.com to startup MS Windows. Now instead of that
annoying Micro$oft advertisment, I have the Joker (yes, from Batman) taking
yoru picture from the screen, saying "Smile!" Also a little bit of text:
"Micro$oft Windows: The world's first commercially sucessful virus." I added
that because of the frequency of crashes. <grin>
Rob
__ +------------------+
/ \ -- --===--- | a post by |
\__/ --------- | Rob Mohns |
| rmohns@ |
I had no water, so | vax.clarku.edu |
I drowned in sand. +------------------+
| |
\|/ | |
__\\\|/____________|_______________\//___\\|_|/________\|/_________
|
3843 | From: jodfishe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (joseph dale fisher)
Subject: Re: prayers and advice requested on family problem
Organization: Indiana University
Lines: 34
Julie, it is a really trying situation that you have described. My
brother was living with someone like that and things were almost as bad
(although he left after a considerably shorter amount of time due to
other problems with the relationship). Anyway, the best thing to do
would be to get everyone in the same room together (optimally in a room
with nothing breakable), lock the door behind you, throw the key out
underneath the door (just as far as the longest hand can reach. You
would like to get out after the conclusion, I would imagine), and hash
things out. More than likely, there will be screaming, crying, and
possibly hitting (unless of course someone decided to bring some rope to
tie people down). Some of the best strategies in keeping things calmer
would include:
have each individual own their own statements (ie, I feel that this
relationship is hurting everyone involved because.... or I really don't
understand where you're coming from.)
reinforce statements by paraphrasing, etc. (ie, So you think that we
did this because of...? Well, let me just say that the reason for this
was ....)
don't accuse each other (It was your fault that ... happened!)
find a common ground about SOMETHING (Lampshades really are
decorational and functional at the same time.)
Guaranteed, in a situation like this, there is going to be some
gunnysacking (re-hashing topics which were assumed resolved, but were
truly not and someone feels someone else is to blame). However, this
should be kept to a minimum and simply ask for forgiveness or apologize
about each situation WITHOUT holding a smoldering grudge.
The relationship really can work. It's just a matter of keeping things
smooth and even. It's sort of like making a peace treaty between
warring factions: you can't give one side everything; there must be a
compromise. Breaks can be taken, but communication between everyone
involved must continue if the relationships here are to survive.
Joe Fisher
|
3844 | From: jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Han)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Nntp-Posting-Host: debra.dgbt.doc.ca
Organization: Communications Research Centre, Ottawa
Distribution: na
Lines: 58
In article <bontchev.735404289@fbihh>
bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de writes:
>And some people thought that I am exaggerating when claiming that the
>Cripple Chip is just a first step in a totalitarian plot against the
>civil liberties in the USA... It seems that I've even been an optimist
>- the things are happening even faster than I expected.... That's
>another of the dirty tricks they used to apply on us under the
>communist regime - do something secret, THEN tell the people about is
>(after the fact, when nothing can be done any more), and of course,
>explaining them how much better the situation is now...
>
>In my previous messages I wrote that the Americans should wake up and
>fight against the new proposal. Now it seems to me that it is already
>too late - it has already happened, the civil liberties have been
>violated, no, stollen from the American people, while the most part of
>this people has been sleeping happily... :-((( Too sad...
As one of the happily sleeping people, I would just like to ask this->
aren't people just slightly overreacting to this? Or are we all of a
sudden going to draw parallels to Nazi Germany and Communist Russia?
The point of the matter is that; yes this is a serious problem. But it is
not the end of the world. Guess what? We're doing something now you
can't do in a Communist country or Nazi Germany. We're complaining about
it, (or rather, you're complaining about it) and nobody is shooting at us.
(Or, rather, if they're shooting at me, they have real bad aim. (:-) )
GUESS WHAT PEOPLE? You live in one of the few countries in the world
where a person can complain without getting shot at.
People are always complaining that somebody did this wrong, or somebody
did that wrong, or whatever. Sit down and figure out two things:
1) What have they done right?
2) How much worse can it get?
And you'll find that you and I, are pretty damn lucky.
So let's talk about it, get some action going, decide what's going on.
But let's not overreact!
>
>Regards,
>Vesselin
>--
>Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
>Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
>< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
>e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
--
Jerry Han-CRC-DOC-Div. of Behavioural Research-"jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca"
///////////// These are my opinions, and my opinions only. \\\\\\\\\\\\\
\\\\\\\\\ A proud and frozen member of the Mighty Warriors Band ////////
"Memories of those I've left behind, still ringing in my ears."-Genesis-
|
3845 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: Political Atheists?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 11
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>>The motto originated in the Star-Spangled Banner. Tell me that this has
>>something to do with atheists.
>The motto _on_coins_ originated as a McCarthyite smear which equated atheism
>with Communism and called both unamerican.
No it didn't. The motto has been on various coins since the Civil War.
It was just required to be on *all* currency in the 50's.
keith
|
3846 | From: jhesse@netcom.com (John Hesse)
Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 21
In article <strnlghtC5LGFI.JqA@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>
>Though I share many of the concerns expressed by some, I find the proposal
>less threatening than many others, since right now most Americans have no
>secure telephony, and any jerk with a pair of clip leads and a "goat" can
>eavesdrop. This would also plug up the security hole in cellular and
>cordless phones.
>
Oh great. Wonderful news. Nobody can listen in--except the feds. You
believe that the feds offer the least threat to liberty of anyone, and I'm
sure I do too.
Glad that jerk won't be tapping my phone anymore.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Hesse | A man,
jhesse@netcom.com | a plan,
Moss Beach, Calif | a canal, Bob.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
3847 | From: nghiah@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Nghia Huynh)
Subject: Apple hard disk drive?
Nntp-Posting-Host: extro.ucc.su.oz.au
Organization: /etc/organization
Lines: 15
Just wanted to ask a question. I bought a hard disk drive second-hand
the other day, and I opened the packaging up and saw that there was a small
sticker on the drive that had a little red apple with a bite taken out of it.
It's socket did not look the same as my existing hard disk that is in my
computer already (it has fifty little pins sticking out from it instead of
the 39 that is sticking out of my old hard disk.
I don't know if disk drives for the Apple (or Mac) are different from ones
used in AT clones, so could someone tell me if I could use this hard disk
on my AT clone? If not, what did I just purchase? It's a Quantum Prodrive.
It's dated 1988 on the green board. Will I need a controller/add-in card?
All the help is much appreciated. Thanks! :)
PC
|
3848 | From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: BMW MOA members read this!
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: usa
Lines: 32
In article <3102@shaman.wv.tek.com> harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer) writes:
>>>> As a new BMW owner I was thinking about signing up for the MOA, but [...]
>>>let my current membership lapse when it's up for renewal.
>>[...] hints on what will keep the organization in business that long.
>
>Become an activist: campaign for an MC insurance program; for universal
>driver/rider training before licensing. Pick a topic dear to your heart
>and get the organization to act on it. Barnacles don't move ships.
You're obviously not referring to any of the three above-quoted
individuals, because barnacles don't each send $20 to the crew of the
ship to keep it moving.
"Get the organization to act on it" is easy to say, but says little
about what one really can and should do. What the organization
actually will do is largely determined by the president and directors,
as far as I can see. That's what makes it so important to vote in an
election of officers.
It does strike me that the BMWMOA is a lot less politically active (in
the state and national arenas, not infighting) than other M/C
organizations. Should we change this? Or just join the other groups
that already are in politics?
(Incidentally, the political hazards to motorcycle riders in the US at
the moment don't compare to the problems of some other groups like gun
owners. Just try to take up target pistol shooting in the Northeast
or California, and I bet you'll wish you only had to worry about
wearing a helmet. (Why does every thread on rec.moto eventually come
around to guns?))
-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
|
3849 | From: jlong@brtph368.BNR.CA (John Long P205)
Subject: Need xman source
Reply-To: jlong@brtph368.BNR.CA (John Long P205)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Lines: 3
Where can I get xman source? I would rather get
xman for an HP 9000/700, but source will do.
|
3850 | From: dick@bart.starnet.com (Dick Montgomery)
Subject: Re: X-window for PC
Organization: StarNet Communications Corp.
Lines: 23
Briefly, StarNet Communications has four PC X server packages.
Micro X-lite $ 75.00
Includes integrated tcp/ip, runs in 640KB, no arcs().
Micro X-enlite $150.00
Includes integrated tcp/ip, runs under DOS, shape extension
" interface to Novell tcp/ip
Micro X-DOS $345.00 ($225 ea. in a 5-pack)
Includes integrated tcp/ip, runs under DOS, shape extension
" interface to Novell tcp/ip, FTP's PC/TCP, & PC-NFS.
Micro X-WIN $425.00 ($300 ea. in a 5-pack)
Includes Lanera TCPOpen tcp/ip stack & utilities
" interface to FTP's PC/TCP, Sun's PC-NFS, & WinSock.
For more information contact:
----------------------------------------------------------------
StarNet Communications FAX: 1-408-739-0936
3073 Lawrence Expressway Voice: 1-408-739-0881
Santa Clara, Ca. 95051 E-mail microx@starnet.com
----------------------------------------------------------------
|
3851 | Subject: Re: Tools Tools Tools
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Lines: 29
In article <C51105.98C.1@cs.cmu.edu> jfriedl@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>|> While we're on the subject, has anyone else noticed that the 1/2" deep
>|> well in Craftsman's $60 SAE deep well set is too small to fit a 1/2" bolt or
>|> nut? When I took the socket in for an exchange, EVERY !#%@ one of the 1/2"
>|> deep well sockets on the rack had the exact same problem!!!
>
>Not to imply that you didn't, but since you didn't mention it.....
>did you measure the size of your test nut with callipers? Were all three
>"cross lengths" no more than 1/2"? I've seen bolt heads, and even a few
>nuts, which got slightly thicker further down toward the basa... sort of
>a trapizodial cross section.
That I did not do; however, the sample bolt I took to the store fit
rather well in the following: 1/2" open end wrench, 1/2" box end wrench, 1/2"
12-point normal socket. I take that as meaning it's a 1/2" bolt head.
>But as several people have pointed out, and as I'm noting in the tool FAQ
>I'm writing up in case anyone will want it, a lifetime guarantee doesn't
>necessiarly mean better tools.
Yup. At $6 a socket, I want the @#$@# thing to FIT!
Later,
--
Chris BeHanna DoD# 114 1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com 1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
Disclaimer: Now why would NEC 1991 ZX-11 - pending delivery
agree with any of this anyway? I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.
|
3852 | Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
From: Mike Mychalkiw <ACAD8059@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Subject: Re: Cobra Locks
Distribution: usa
Lines: 33
Greetings netters,
Steve writes ... <about Cobra Locks>
Well I have the mother of all locks. On Friday the 16th of April I took
possesion of a 12' Cobra Links lock, 1" diameter. This was a special order.
I weighs a lot. I had to carry it home and it was digging into my shoulder
after about two blocks.
I have currently a Kryptonite Rock Lock through the front wheel, a HD
padlock for the steering lock, a Master padlock to lock the cover to two
front spokes, and the Cobra Links through the rear swing arm and around a
post in an underground parking garage.
Next Friday the 30th I have an appointment to have an alarm installed on
me bike.
When I travel the Cobra Links and the cover and padlock stay at home.
By the way. I also removed the plastic mesh that is on the Cobra Links
and encased the lock from end to end using bicycle inner tubes (two of
them) I got the from bicycle dealer that sold me the Cobra Links. The
guys were really great and didn't mark up the price of the lock much
and the inner tubes were free.
Later.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1992 FXSTC Rock 'N Roll Mike Mychalkiw
HOG Ryerson Polytechnical Institute -
DoD #665 Just THIS side of HELL. Academic Computing Information Centre
doh #0000000667 Just the OTHER side. EMAIL : ACAD8059@RYEVM.RYERSON.CA
|
3853 | From: jayne@mmalt.guild.org (Jayne Kulikauskas)
Subject: Easter: what's in a name? (was Re: New Testament Double Standard?
Organization: Kulikauskas home
Lines: 22
seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna (S.M.) Watson) writes:
> In Quebec French, the word for the celebration of the resurrection is
> "Pa^ques"--this is etymologically related to Pesach (Passover) and the
> pascal lamb. So is the French Canadian (mostly Roman Catholic) celebration
> better because it uses the right name?
I was at my parents' Seder and noticed the labelling on one of the
packages was English, Hebrew and French. In the phrase "kosher for
passover" the French word used was "Pa^ques." We've deliberately
mistranslated this at the Kulikauskas home and keep referring to foods
being kosher for Easter. :-)
Back to the original questions in this thread concerning Christians of
Jewish descent and the Law: I always wonder when I see posts on this
subject whether the writers are Christians of Jewish descent relating
the life-decisions God has led them to or people who take only an
academic interest in the topic. (Having known Seanna since she was nine
years old, I do know in this case.) I admit that the answer to this
question affects the amount of weight I give to the writer's statement.
Jayne Kulikauskas/ jayne@mmalt.guild.org
|
3854 | From: thornley@micro.cs.umn.edu (David H. Thornley)
Subject: Re: Erickson, Keith Miller?
Article-I.D.: news2.C5LHyD.GEx
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Lines: 17
Nntp-Posting-Host: micro.cs.umn.edu
In article <1993Apr16.032554.12401@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> frankkim@CATFISH.LCS.MIT.EDU (Frank Kim) writes:
>
>HI,
>
>I was just wondering if anyone knew when Erickson
>and Keith Miller are expected to come back and what
>exactly ails them.
>
Dunno about Miller.
If you mean Scott Erickson, currently the reigning Twins Least Consistent
Good Player, he pulled a muscle in the neighborhood of the rib cage that
made it essentially impossible for him to pitch temporarily, and is
expected back on the mound Sunday.
David Thornley
"With tickets to see one of the Scott Ericksons pitch"
|
3855 | From: morley@suncad.camosun.bc.ca (Mark Morley)
Subject: VGA Mode 13h Routines Available
Nntp-Posting-Host: suncad.camosun.bc.ca
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Lines: 31
Hi there,
I've made a VGA mode 13h graphics library available via FTP. I originally
wrote the routines as a kind of exercise for myself, but perhaps someone
here will find them useful. They are certainly useable as they are, but
are missing some higher-level functionality. They're intended more as an
intro to mode 13h programming, a starting point.
*** The library assumes a 386 processor, but it is trivial to modify it
*** for a 286. If enough people ask, I'll make the mods and re-post it as a
*** different version.
The routines are written in assembly (TASM) and are callable from C. They
are fairly simple, but I've found them to be very fast (for my purposes,
anyway). Routines are included to enter and exit mode 13h, define a
"virtual screen", put and get pixels, put a pixmap (rectangular image with
no transparent spots), put a sprite (image with see-thru areas), copy
areas of the virtual screen into video memory, etc. I've also included a
simple C routine to draw a line, as well as a C routine to load a 256
color GIF image into a buffer. I also wrote a quick'n'dirty(tm) demo program
that bounces a bunch of sprites around behind three "windows".
The whole package is available on spang.camosun.bc.ca in /pub/dos/vgl.zip
It is zipped with pkzip 2.04g
It is completely in the public domain, as far as I'm concerned. Do with
it whatever you like. However, it'd be nice to get credit where it's due,
and maybe an e-mail telling me you like it (if you don't like it don't bother)
Mark
morley@camosun.bc.ca
|
3856 | Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
From: <U23590@uicvm.uic.edu>
Subject: Re: Waco dates - are these coincidental?
Distribution: usa
<1993Apr5.193927.19951@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>
Lines: 19
I do not think it is at all unlikely that Clinton ro his policy
wonk facilitators arranged the Waco raid as a display piece for the
Gun War on the Constitution. Look at what the Bush administration did to
get material for the Drug War on the Constitution--remember that baggie of
crack George waved at the cameras? They took a dealer from the ghetto
and brought him to the White House so they could say drugs had been
dealt onb the White House Lawn.
And I don't think anybody could honestly think Clinton would have any
moral qualms about the raid...
The only really worrisome thing is that the BD's heroic defense of
their ranch will make Clinton's Gun War on the Constitution _more_
successfull--exactly as he wanted. The media and politicians will
filter this so that the general public will think the BD's
are bad guys! Don't help them. Stand up for the BD's with your
friends and family adnd in public anytime you can--their supposed
moral qualms are not important to the issue. They are heroes in the
fight against oppressive government; it could just as well have been
you.
-watkins@earth.eecs.uic.edu (Brian E Watkins)
|
3857 | Subject: Looking for a person [VHS for sale]
From: koutd@hiramb.hiram.edu (DOUGLAS KOU)
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-Host: hiramb.hiram.edu
Lines: 15
I am looking for a person who made an offer of $50 for five
of my VHS movies. I was not able to save the e-mail address
of this person. It has been a week since we made the deal,
please reply.
The five movies are
Basic Instinct
Born on the Forth of July
Backdraft
The Prince of Tides
Presumed Innocent
Douglas Kou
Hiram College
|
3858 | From: buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti)
Subject: Re: XCopyPlane Question
Reply-To: buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti)
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
Lines: 16
In-reply-to: whaley@sigma.kpc.com's message of 15 Apr 93 18:39:31 GMT
In article <WHALEY.93Apr15103931@sigma.kpc.com> whaley@sigma.kpc.com (Ken Whaley) writes:
> Actually, I must also ask the FAQ's #1 most popular reason why graphics
> don't show up: do you wait for an expose event before drawing your
> rectangle?
Suppose you have an idle app with a realized and mapped Window that contains
Xlib graphics. A button widget, when pressed, will cause a new item
to be drawn in the Window. This action clearly should not call XCopyArea()
(or equiv) directly; instead, it should register the existence of the new
item in a memory structure and let the expose event handler take care
of rendering the image because at that time it is guaranteed that the
Window is mapped.
The problem, of course, is that no expose event is generated if the window
is visible and mapped. Do you know the best way to "tickle" a window so
that the expose event handler will be invoked to draw this new item?
|
3859 | From: rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Robert D Castro)
Subject: Contact person for boots
Keywords: combat
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Robert D Castro)
Organization: Columbia University
Lines: 16
Would anyone out there in DoDland be able to help me out in giving me
a contact to purchase a pair of military air-borne combat boots (9 1/2
D in size). These boots (so I have read here on rec.moto) are calf
height boots that use only velcro for enclosure. I have phoned around
and nobody seems to carry such an item. I admit I have not gone into
the deepest bowels of NYC yet for the search but I have made some
calls to several of the bigger army/navy type stores with no luck.
Anyone out there know of a place that does carry such an item as well
as does mail order? Any help would be appreciated.
o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o>
Rob Castro | email - rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu | Live for today
1983 KZ550LTD | phone - (212) 854-7617 | For today you live!
DoD# NYC-1 | New York, New York, USA | RC (tm)
<o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o <o&o
|
3860 | From: rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen)
Subject: (w)rec.autos
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 3
There is just something disconcerting about the name of this group. :)
|
3861 | From: dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller)
Subject: Re: thoughts on christians
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Lines: 40
cmtan@iss.nus.sg (Tan Chade Meng - dan) writes:
:
[ . . . . . ]
:
: Personally, I feel that since religion have such a poweful
: psychological effect, we should let theists be. But the problem is that
: religions cause enormous harm to non-believers and to humanity as a whole
: (holy wars, inquisitions, inter-religious hatred, impedence of science
: & intellectual progress, us-&-them attitudes etc etc. Need I say more?).
: I really don't know what we can do about them. Any comments?
:
I have always held that there should be no attempt to change a persons
attitude or lifestyle as long as it makes them happy and does not tax
anybody else. This seems to be ok for atheists. You don't get an atheist
knocking on your door, stopping you in the airport, or handing out
literature at a social event. Theists seem to think that thier form of
happy should work for others and try to make it so.
My sister is a
born again, and she was a real thorn in the side for my entire family
for several years. She finally got the clue that she couldn't help.
During that period she bought me "I was atheist, now I'm Xtian" books
for my birthday and Xmas several times. Our birthday cards would contain
verses. It was a problem. I told my mom that I was going to send my
sister an atheist piece of reading material. I got a "Don't you dare".
My mom wasn't religious. Why did she insist that I not send it ??
Because our society has driven into us that religion is ok to
preach, non-religion should be self contained. What a crock of shit.
I finally told my sister that I didn't find her way of life attractive.
I have seen exactly 0 effort from her on trying to convert me since then.
I'm sick of religious types being pampered, looked out for, and WORST
OF ALL . . . . respected more than atheists. There must be an end
in sight.
Dave Fuller
dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com
|
3862 | From: muellerm@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Marc Mueller)
Subject: Re: Pork ( C-17 & C-5 was (Re: ABOLISH SELECTIVE SERVICE )
Nntp-Posting-Host: irlsp
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Lines: 48
In article <1993Apr16.174304.26360@ra.msstate.edu> fpa1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Fletcher P Adams) writes:
>muellerm@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Marc Mueller) writes:
>>fpa1@Trumpet.CC.MsState.Edu (Fletcher P Adams) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Eliminate the C-17 transport.
>>>
>>>Wrong. We need its capability. Sure it has its problems, ........
>>
>>If you read Aviation Week, the C-5 line can be reopened and the C-5s
>>would be delivered a year earlier and cost a billion less for the
>>program. Politically, though, the C-17 is popular pork.
>
>I do read Av Week and don't remember this. Could you supply the date
>of the magazine?
Aviation Week March 15 1993 p.48
"the CBO estimates that matching the capability of 100 C-17s would
require 70 C-5s at a total cost of $14.4 billion. This option is still
more than $10 billion cheaper than completing the C-17 program, which
the CBO estimates will cost $24.7 billion."
Sorry, I was nine billion off. The C-5s would be ten billion cheaper.
> As for C-17 vs. C-5 , the C-17 can't carry as much
>but has more capability ( read : can land at smaller airfields of which
>there are more of ) than the C-5. Now is the C-17 pork? It depends
>on whether your job relies on it or not. :) In California right now,
>I would say that it is not pork since due to peace dividend so many
>people are out of work.
>
Well, California voted overwhelmingly for change, right?
The argument to continue military programs just to support jobs is
a poor one. It's kept quite a few bases open that should have been closed
years ago, wasting billions of taxes.
>>The question is whether Les Aspin and Clinton will be able to face down
>>a pork happy Congress.
>>
>>-- Marc Mueller
>
>Huh? Shouldn't that read "The question is whether a social-pork happy
>Les Aspin and Clinton will be able to face down a jobs-pork happy
>Congress."
>
>fpa
>
-- Marc Mueller
|
3863 | From: brifre1@ac.dal.ca
Subject: Re: Goalie masks
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Lines: 22
In article <93102@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gtd597a@prism.gatech.EDU (Hrivnak) writes:
>
> I'm starting an informal poll on goalie masks. I'd like to know
> who's mask you think looks the best. I've always like Curtis Joseph's
> of the Blues the best. Anyway, send your nominations to me, or post your
> vote here on r.s.h. My e-mail adress is: gtd597a@prism.gatech.edu
>
> Thanks for your time.
I saw a mask once that had drawings of band-aids, presumably for every puck
that goalie stopped with his face/head. I can't remember who it was or even
if it was NHL (I see quite a few AHL games here).
This is by far the funniest mask I've seen, and for me funny=cool
>
> --
> GO SKINS! ||"Now for the next question... Does emotional music have quite
> GO BRAVES! || an effect on you?" - Mike Patton, Faith No More
> GO HORNETS! ||
> GO CAPITALS! ||Mike Friedman (Hrivnak fan!) Internet: gtd597a@prism.gatech.edu
Barfly
|
3864 | From: nfotis@ntua.gr (Nick C. Fotis)
Subject: (17 Apr 93) Computer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY [part 1/3]
Lines: 1566
Reply-To: nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr (Nick (Nikolaos) Fotis)
Organization: National Technical Univ. of Athens
Archive-name: graphics/resources-list/part1
Last-modified: 1993/04/17
Computer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY POSTING [ PART 1/3 ]
===================================================
Last Change : 17 April 1993
Many FAQs, including this Listing, are available on the archive site
pit-manager.mit.edu (alias rtfm.mit.edu) [18.172.1.27] in the directory
pub/usenet/news.answers. The name under which a FAQ is archived appears
in the Archive-name line at the top of the article.
This FAQ is archived as graphics/resources-list/part[1-3]
There's a mail server on that machine. You send a e-mail message to
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu containing the keyword "help" (without
quotes!) in the message body.
You can see in many other places for this Listing. See the item:
0. Places to find the Resource Listing
for more information.
Items Changed:
--------------
RE-ARRANGED the subjects, in order to fir better in the 63K/article limit.
I PLAN ON CHANGING HEADERS SOON, SO BE CAREFUL! ONLY THE "Resource Listing"
keys are sure to remain in the Subject: line!
0. Places to find the Resource Listing
6. 3D graphics editors
a. Public domain, free and shareware systems
9. Plotting packages
18. Molecular visualization stuff
[ I'm thinking of making this post bi-weekly. What do you think??? ]
--------------
Lines which got changed, have the `#' character in front of them.
Added lines are prepended with a `+'
Removed lines are just removed. Use 'diff' to locate these changes.
========================================================================
This text is (C)Copyright 1992, 1993 of Nikolaos C. Fotis. You can copy
freely this file, provided you keep this copyright notice intact.
Compiled by Nikolaos (Nick) C. Fotis, e-mail: nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr
Please contact me for updates,corrections, etc.
Disclaimer: I do not guarantee the accuracy of this document.
Use it at your own risk.
========================================================================
This is mainly a guide for computer graphics software.
I would suggest reading the Comp. Graphics FAQ for image analysis stuff.
It's entitled:
(date) comp.graphics Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
John T. Grieggs <grieggs@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> is the poster of the
official comp.graphics FAQ
I have included my comments within braces '[' and ']'.
Nikolaos Fotis
========================================================================
Contents of the Resource Listing
================================
PART1:
------
0. Places to find the Resource Listing
1. ARCHIE
2. Notes
3. Computer graphics FTP site list, by Eric Haines
4. Mail servers and graphics-oriented BBSes
5. Ray-tracing/graphics-related mailing lists.
6. 3D graphics editors
a. Public domain, free and shareware systems
b. Commercial systems
7. Scene description languages
8. Solids description formats
PART2:
------
9. Plotting packages
10. Image analysis software - Image processing and display
PART3:
------
11. Scene generators/geographical data/Maps/Data files
12. 3D scanners - Digitized 3D Data.
13. Background imagery/textures/datafiles
14. Introduction to rendering algorithms
a. Ray tracing
b. Z-buffer (depth-buffer)
c. Others
15. Where can I find the geometric data for the:
a. Teapot ?
b. Space Shuttle ?
16. Image annotation software
17. Scientific visualization stuff
18. Molecular visualization stuff
19. GIS (Geographical Information Systems software)
Future additions:
[Please send me updates/info!]
========================================================================
0. Places to find the Resource Listing
======================================
#This file is crossposted to comp.graphics, comp.answers and news.answers,
so if you can't locate it in comp.graphics, you're advised to search in
#comp.answers or news.answers
(The latter groups usually are archived in your site. Contact your sysadmin
for more info).
These 3 articles are posted to comp.graphics 3-4 times a month and are kept in
many places (see below)
--
Many FAQs, including this one, are available on the archive site
pit-manager.mit.edu (alias rtfm.mit.edu) [18.172.1.27] in the directory
pub/usenet/news.answers. The name under which a FAQ is archived appears
in the Archive-name line at the top of the article.
This FAQ is archived as graphics/resources-list/part[1-3]
There's a mail server on that machine. You send a e-mail message to
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu containing: help in the Subject: field
--
The inria-graphlib mail server mirrors this posting (see under the
Subject 4: Mail servers )
--
The Resource Listing is accesible through WAIS in the machine
enuxva.eas.asu.edu (port 8000) under the name graphics-resources-list.
It's got a digest-type line before every numbered item for purposes of
indexing.
--
Another place that monitors the Listing is the MaasInfo files.
For more info contact Robert E. Maas <rem@btr.com>
--
Yet another place to search for FAQs in general is the SWITCH
(Swiss Academic and Research Network) system in Switzerland:
interactive:
telnet nic.switch.ch [130.59.1.40], login as "info". Move to the
info_service/Usenet/periodic-postings directory. Search in the
00index file by typing "/" and the word to look for.
You may then just read the FAQ in the "faqs" directory, or decide
to fetch it by one of the following methods.
ftp:
login to nic.switch.ch [130.59.1.40] as user anonymous and
enter your internet-style address after being prompted for a
password.
cd info_service/Usenet/periodic-postings
mail:
send e-mail to
RFC-822:
archive-server@nic.switch.ch
X.400:
/S=archive-server/OU=nic/O=switch/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/
Enter 'help' in the bodypart to receive instructions. No information
is required in the subject header line.
1. ARCHIE
=========
The Archie is a service system to locate FTP places for
requested files. It's appreciated that you will use Archie
before asking help in the newsgroups.
Archie servers:
archie.au or 139.130.4.6 (Aussie/NZ)
archie.funet.fi or 128.214.6.100 (Finland/Eur.)
archie.th-darmstadt.de or 130.83.128.111 (GER.)
cs.huji.ac.il or 132.65.6.5 (Israel)
archie.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp or 130.54.20.1 (JAPAN)
archie.sogang.ac.kr or 163.239.1.11 (Korea)
archie.ncu.edu.tw or telnet 140.115.19.24 (TWN)
archie.doc.ic.ac.uk or 146.169.3.7 (UK/Ireland)
archie.sura.net or 128.167.254.179 (USA [MD])
archie.unl.edu (password: archie1) (USA [NE])
archie.ans.net or 147.225.1.2 (USA [NY])
archie.rutgers.edu or 128.6.18.15 (USA [NJ])
archie.nz or 130.195.9.4 (New Zealand)
Connect to Archie server with telnet and type "archie" as username.
To get help type 'help'.
You can get 'xarchie' or 'archie', which are clients that call Archie
without the burden of a telnet session.
'Xarchie' is on the X11.R5 contrib tape, and 'archie' on comp.sources.misc,
vol. 27.
To get information on how to use Archie via e-mail, send mail with
subject "help" to "archie" account at any of above sites.
(Note to Janet/PSS users -- the United Kingdom archie site is
accessible on the Janet host doc.ic.ac.uk [000005102000].
Connect to it and specify "archie" as the host name and "archie" as
the username.)
==========================================================================
2. Notes
========
(Excerpted from the FAQ article)
Please do *not* post or mail messages saying "I can't FTP, could
someone mail this to me?" There are a number of automated mail servers
that will send you things like this in response to a message.
There are a number of sites that archive the Usenet sources newsgroups
and make them available via an email query system. You send a message
to an automated server saying something like "send comp.sources.unix/fbm",
and a few hours or days later you get the file in the mail.
==========================================================================
3. Computer graphics FTP site list, by Eric Haines
==================================================
Computer graphics related FTP sites (and maintainers), 26/03/93
compiled by Eric Haines, erich@eye.com
and Nick Fotis, nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr
Ray-tracers:
------------
RayShade - a great ray tracer for workstations on up, also for PC, Mac & Amiga.
PoV - son and successor to DKB trace, written by Compuservers.
(For more questions call Drew Wells --
73767.1244@compuserve.com or Dave Buck -- david_buck@carleton.ca)
ART - ray tracer with a good range of surface types, part of VORT package.
DKBtrace - another good ray tracer, from all reports; PCs, Mac II,
Amiga, UNIX, VMS (last two with X11 previewer), etc.
RTrace - Portugese ray tracer, does bicubic patches, CSG, 3D text, etc. etc.
An MS-DOS version for use with DJGPP DOS extender (GO32) exists also,
as a Mac port.
VIVID2 - A shareware raytracer for PCs - binary only (286/287). Author:
Stephen Coy (coy@ssc-vax.boeing.com). The 386/387 (no source) version
is available to registered users (US$50) direct from the author.
RAY4 - Steve Hollasch's 4-dimensional ray tracer - renders hyperspheres,
hypertetrahedra, hyperplanes, and hyperparallelepipeds (there's
a separate real-time wireframe viewer written in GL called WIRE4 ) .
MTV,QRT,DBW - yet more ray tracers, some with interesting features.
Distributed/Parallel Raytracers:
--------------------------------
XDART - A distributed ray-tracer that runs under X11. There are server binaries
which work only on DECstations, SPARCs, HP Snakes (7x0 series) and NeXT.
The clients are distributed as binaries and C source.
Inetray - A network version of Rayshade 4.0. Needs Sun RPC 4.0 or newer.
Contact Andreas Thurnherr (ant@ips.id.ethz.ch)
prt, VM_pRAY - parallel ray tracers.
Volume renderers:
-----------------
VREND - Cornell's Volume Renderer, from Kartch/Devine/Caffey/Warren (FORTRAN).
Radiosity (and diffuse lighting) renderers:
-------------------------------------------
Radiance - a ray tracer w/radiosity effects, by Greg Ward. Excellent shading
models and physically based lighting simulation. Unix/X based, though
has been ported to the Amiga and the PC (386).
INDIA - An Indian radiosity package based on Radiance.
SGI_RAD - An interactive radiosity package that runs on SGI machines with a
Spaceball. It includes a house database.
Author: Guy Moreillon <moreillo@ligsg1.epfl.ch>
RAD - a simple public-domain radiosity package in C. The solution can be run
stand-alone on any Unix box, but the walk-through requires a SGI 4D.
Author: Bernard Kwok <g-kwok@cs.yorku.ca>
Renderers which are not raytracers, and graphics libraries:
-----------------------------------------------------------
SIPP - Scan line z-buffer and Phong shading renderer.
Now uses the shadow buffer algorithm.
Tcl-SIPP - a Tcl command interface to the SIPP rendering
program. Tcl-SIPP is a set of Tcl commands used to programmed
SIPP without having to write and compile C code.
Commands are used to specify surfaces, objects,
scenes and rendering options.
It renders either in PPM format or in Utah Raster Toolkit RLE format
or to the photo widget in the Tk-based X11 applications.
VOGLE - graphics learning environment (device portable).
VOGL - an SGI GL-like library based on VOGLE.
REND386 - A *fast* polygon renderer for Intel 386s and up. Version 2 on up.
[ It's not photorealistic, but rather a real-time renderer]
XSHARP21 - Dr. Dobb's Journal PC renderer source code, with budget texture
mapping.
Modellers, wireframe viewers:
-----------------------------
VISION-3D - Mac modeler, can output Radiance & Rayshade files.
IRIT - A CSG solid modeler, with support for freeform surfaces.
X3D - A wireframe viewer for X11.
3DV - 3-D wireframe graphics toolkit, with C source, 3dv objects, other stuff
Look at major PC archives like wuarchive. One such file is 3DKIT1.ZIP
PV3D - a shareware front end modeler for POVRAY, still in beta test.
French docs for now, price for registering 250 French Francs. Save disabled.
Some extra utilities, DXF files for the registered version.
Geometric viewers:
------------------
SALEM - A GL-based package from Dobkin et al. for exploring mathematical
structures.
GEOMVIEW - A GL-based package for looking and interactively manipulating
3D objects, from Geometry Center at Minnesota.
XYZ GeoBench -(eXperimental geometrY Zurich) is a workbench for geometric
computation for Macintosh computers.
WIRE4 - GL wireframe previewer for Steve Hollasch's RAY4 (see above)
Data Formats and Data Sets for Ray Tracing:
-------------------------------------------
SPD - a set of procedural databases for testing ray tracers.
NFF - simplistic file format used by SPD.
OFF - another file format.
P3D - a lispy file format.
TDDD - Imagine (3D modeler) format, has converters for RayShade, NFF, OFF, etc.
Also includes a nice postscript object displayer. Some GREAT models.
TTDDDLIB - converts to/from TDDD/TTDDD, OFF, NFF, Rayshade 4.0, Imagine,
and vort 3d objects. Also outputs Framemaker MIF files and isometric
views in Postscript. Registered users get a TeX PK font converter and
a superquadric surfaces generator.
Glenn Lewis <glewis@pcocd2.intel.com>
[Note : TTDDDLIB is also known as T3DLIB]
CHVRTD - Chapel Hill Volume Rendering Test Datasets, includes volume sets for
two heads, a brain, a knee, electron density maps for RNA and others.
Written Material on Rendering:
------------------------------
RT News - collections of articles on ray tracing.
RT bib - references to articles on ray tracing in "refer" format.
Rad bib - references to articles on radiosity (global illumination).
Speer RT bib - Rick Speer's cross-referenced RT bib, in postscript.
RT abstracts - collection by Tom Wilson of abstracts of many RT articles.
Paper bank project - various technical papers in electronic form. Contact
Juhana Kouhia <jk87377@cs.tut.fi>
Online Bibliography Project :
The ACM SIGGRAPH Online Bibliography Project is a database of
over 15,000 unique computer graphics and computational geometry
references in BibTeX format, available to the computer graphics
community as a research and educational resource.
The database is located at "siggraph.org". Users may download
the BibTeX files via FTP and peruse them offline, or telnet to
"siggraph.org" and log in as "biblio" and interactively search
the database for entries of interest, by keyword.
For the people without Internet access, there's also an e-mail
server. Send mail to
archive-server@siggraph.org
and in the subject or the body of the message include the message send
followed by the topic and subtopic you wish. A good place to start is
with the command
send index
which will give you an up-to-date list of available information.
Additions/corrections/suggestions may be directed to the admin,
"bibadmin@siggraph.org".
Image Manipulation Libraries:
-----------------------------
Utah Raster Toolkit - nice image manipulation tools.
PBMPLUS - a great package for image conversion and manipulation.
LIBTIFF - library for reading/writing TIFF images.
ImageMagick - X11 package for display and interactive manipulation
of images. Uses its own format (MIFF), and includes some converters.
xv - X-based image display, manipulation, and format converter.
xloadimage, xli - displays various formats on an X11 screen.
Khoros - a huge, excellent system for image processing, with a visual
programming interface and much much more. Uses X windows.
FBM - another set of image manipulation tools, somewhat old now.
Img - image manipulation, displays on X11 screen, a bit old now.
xflick - Plays .FLI animation under X11
XAnim - plays any resolution FLI along with GIF's(including GIF89a animation
extensions), DL's and Amiga IFF animations(3,5,J,l) and IFF
pictures(including HAM,EHB and color cycling)
SDSC - SDSC Image Tools package (San Diego Supercomputing Center)
for image manipulation and conversion
CLRpaint - A 24-bit paint program for SGI 24bit workstations and 8bit Indigos.
Libraries with code for graphics:
---------------------------------
Graphics Gems I,II,III - code from the ever so useful books.
spline-patch.tar.Z - spline patch ray intersection routines by Sean Graves
kaleido - Computation and 3D Display of Uniform Polyhedra. Mirrored in
wuarchive. This package computes (and displays) the metrical
properties of 75 polyhedra. Author: Dr. Zvi Har'El,
e-mail: rl@gauss.technion.ac.il
(*) means site is an "official" distributor, so is most up to date.
NORTH AMERICA (please look for things on your own continent first...):
-------------
wuarchive.wustl.edu [128.252.135.4]: /graphics/graphics - get CONTENTS file
for a roadmap. /graphics/graphics/objects/TDDD - *the TTDDD objects
and converters*, /mirrors/unix-c/graphics - Rayshade ray tracer, MTV
ray tracer, Vort ray tracer, FBM, PBMPLUS, popi, Utah raster toolkit.
/mirrors/msdos/graphics - DKB ray tracer, FLI RayTracker demos.
/pub/rad.tar.Z - *SGI_RAD*, /graphics/graphics/radiosity - Radiance
and Indian radiosity package. /msdos/ddjmag/ddj9209.zip - version 21
of Xsharp, with fast texture mapping. There's lots more, including
bibs, Graphics Gems I & II code, OFF, RTN, Radiance, NFF, SIPP, spline
patch intersection routines, textbook errata, source code from Roy
Hall's book "Illumination and Color in Computer Generated Imagery", etc
graphics/graphics/packages/kaleido - *kaleido*
George Kyriazis <kyriazis@turing.cs.rpi.edu>
princeton.edu [128.112.128.1]: /pub/Graphics (note capital "G") - *Rayshade
4.0 ray tracer (and separate 387 executable)*, *color quantization
code*, *SPD*, *RT News*, *Wilson's RT abstracts*, "RT bib*, *Utah
Raster Toolkit*, newer FBM, *Graphics Gems I, II & III code*.
/pub/graphics directory - *SALEM* and other stuff.
Craig Kolb <cek@princeton.edu>
[replaces weedeater.math.yale.edu - note the capital "G" in
pub/Graphics] Because there's a trouble with princeton's incoming
area, you can upload Rayshade-specific stuff to
weedeater.math.yale.edu [128.36.23.17]
alfred.ccs.carleton.ca [134.117.1.1]: /pub/dkbtrace - *DKB ray tracer*,
/pub/pov-ray/POV-Ray1.0 - *PVRay Compuserve group ray tracer (or PoV)*.
David Buck <david_buck@carleton.ca>
avalon.chinalake.navy.mil [129.131.31.11]: 3D objects (multiple formats),
utilities, file format documents.
This site was created to be a 3D object "repository" for the net.
Francisco X DeJesus <dejesus@archimedes.chinalake.navy.mil>
omicron.cs.unc.edu [152.2.128.159]: pub/softlab/CHVRTD - Chapel Hill
Volume Rendering Test Datasets.
ftp.mv.com [192.80.84.1]: - Official DDJ FTP repository.
*XSHARP*
peipa.essex.ac.uk [155.245.115.161]: the Pilot European Image Processing
Archive; in a directory ipa/synth or something like that, there are
image synthesis packages.
Adrian Clarke <alien@essex.ac.uk>
barkley.berkeley.edu [128.32.142.237] : tcl/extensions/tsipp3.0b.tar.Z -
*Tcl-SIPP*
Mark Diekhans <markd@grizzly.com or markd@NeoSoft.com>
acs.cps.msu.edu [35.8.56.90]: pub/sass - *X window fonts converter into
Rayshade 3.0 polygons*, Rayshade animation tool(s).
Ron Sass <sass@cps.msu.edu>
hobbes.lbl.gov [128.3.12.38]: *Radiance* ray trace/radiosity package.
Greg Ward <gjward@lbl.gov>
geom.umn.edu [128.101.25.31] : pub/geomview - *GEOMVIEW*
Contact (for GEOMVIEW): software@geom.umn.edu
ftp.arc.umn.edu [137.66.130.11] : pub/gvl.tar.Z - the latest version of Bob,
Icol and Raz. Source, a manual, man pages, and binaries for
IRIX 4.0.5 are included (Bob is a real time volume renderer)
pub/ contains also many volume datasets.
Ken Chin-Purcell <ken@ahpcrc.umn.edu>
ftp.kpc.com [144.52.120.9] : /pub/graphics/holl91 - Steve Hollasch's
Thesis, /pub/graphics/ray4 - *RAY4*, /pub/graphics/wire4 - *WIRE4*.
/pub/mirror/avalon - mirror of avalon's 3D objects repository.
Steve Hollasch <hollasch@kpc.com>
swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.54.33] : programs/hollasch-4d - RAY4,
SGI Explorer modules and Postscript manual, etc.
zamenhof.cs.rice.edu [128.42.1.75] : pub/graphics.formats - Various electronic
documents about many object and image formats.
Mark Hall <foo@cs.rice.edu>
will apparently no longer be maintaining it, see ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu.
rascal.ics.utexas.edu [128.83.144.1]: /misc/mac/inqueue - VISION-3D facet
based modeller, can output RayShade and Radiance files.
ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.20.50] : misc/file.formats/graphics.formats -
contains various image- and object-format descriptions. Many SciVi
tools in various directories, e.g. SGI/Alpha-shape/Alvis-1.0.tar.Z -
3D alpha-shape visualizer (SGI machines only),
SGI/Polyview3.0/polyview.Z - interactive visualization and analysis of
3D geometrical structures.
Quincey Koziol <koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu>
tucana.noao.edu [140.252.1.1] : /iraf - the IRAF astronomy package
ftp.ipl.rpi.edu [128.113.14.50]: sigma/erich - SPD images and Haines thesis
images. pub/images - various 24 and 8 bit image stills and sequences.
Kevin Martin <sigma@ipl.rpi.edu>
ftp.psc.edu [128.182.66.148]: pub/p3d - p3d_2_0.tar P3D lispy scene
language & renderers. Joel Welling <welling@seurat.psc.edu>
ftp.ee.lbl.gov [128.3.254.68]: *pbmplus.tar.Z*, RayShade data files.
Jef Poskanzer <jef@ace.ee.lbl.gov>
george.lbl.gov [128.3.196.93]: pub/ccs-lib/ccs.tar.Z - *CCS (Complex
Conversion System), a standard software interface for image processing*
hanauma.stanford.edu [36.51.0.16]: /pub/graphics/Comp.graphics - best of
comp.graphics (very extensive), ray-tracers - DBW, MTV, QRT, and more.
Joe Dellinger <joe@hanauma.stanford.edu>
ftp.uu.net [192.48.96.2]: /graphics - *IRIT*, RT News back issues (not
complete), NURBS models, other graphics related material.
/graphics/jpeg/jpegsrc.v?.tar.Z - Independent JPEG Group package for
reading and writing JPEG files.
freebie.engin.umich.edu [141.212.68.23]: *Utah Raster Toolkit*,
Spencer Thomas <thomas@eecs.umich.edu>
export.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.0.12] : /contrib - pbmplus, Image Magick, xloadimage,
xli, xv, Img, lots more. /pub/R5untarred/mit/demos/gpc - NCGA Graphics
Performance Characterization (GPC) Suite.
life.pawl.rpi.edu [128.113.10.2]: /pub/ray - *Kyriazis stochastic Ray Tracer*.
George Kyriazis <kyriazis@turing.cs.rpi.edu>
cs.utah.edu [128.110.4.21]: /pub - Utah raster toolkit, *NURBS databases*.
Jamie Painter <jamie@cs.utah.edu>
gatekeeper.dec.com [16.1.0.2]: /pub/DEC/off.tar.Z - *OFF models*,
Also GPC Benchmark files (planned, but not checked).
Randi Rost <rost@kpc.com>
hubcap.clemson.edu [130.127.8.1]: /pub/amiga/incoming/imagine - stuff for the
Amiga Imagine & Turbo Silver ray tracers. /pub/amiga/TTDDDLIB -
*TTDDDLIB* /pub/amiga/incoming/imagine/objects - MANY objects.
Glenn Lewis <glewis@pcocd2.intel.com>
pprg.eece.unm.edu [129.24.24.10]: /pub/khoros - *Khoros image processing
package (huge, but great)*.
Danielle Argiro <danielle@bullwinkle.unm.edu>
expo.lcs.mit.edu [18.30.0.212]: contrib - *PBMPLUS portable bitmap package*,
*poskbitmaptars bitmap collection*, *Raveling Img*, xloadimage. Jef
Poskanzer <jef@well.sf.ca.us>
venera.isi.edu [128.9.0.32]: */pub/Img.tar.z and img.tar.z - some image
manipulation*, /pub/images - RGB separation photos.
Paul Raveling <raveling@venera.isi.edu>
ucsd.edu [128.54.16.1]: /graphics - utah rle toolkit, pbmplus, fbm,
databases, MTV, DBW and other ray tracers, world map, other stuff.
Not updated much recently.
castlab.engr.wisc.edu [128.104.52.10]: /pub/x3d.2.2.tar.Z - *X3D*
/pub/xdart.1.1.* - *XDART*
Mark Spychalla <spy@castlab.engr.wisc.edu>
sgi.com [192.48.153.1]: /graphics/tiff - TIFF 6.0 spec & *LIBTIFF* software
and pics. Also much SGI- and GL-related stuff (e.g. OpenGL manuals)
Sam Leffler <sam@sgi.com>
[supercedes okeeffe.berkeley.edu for the LIBTIFF stuff]
surya.waterloo.edu [129.97.129.72]: /graphics - FBM, ray tracers
ftp.sdsc.edu [132.249.20.22]: /sdscpub - *SDSC*
ftp.brl.mil [128.63.16.158]: /brl-cad - information on how to get the
BRL CAD package & ray tracer. /images - various test images.
A texture library has also begun here.
Lee A. Butler <butler@BRL.MIL>
cicero.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.189]: /texture_temp - 512x512 grayscale
Brodatz textures,
from Julien Flack <julien@scs.leeds.ac.uk>.
karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.7.6]: pub/Graphics/rtabs.shar.12.90.Z - *Wilson's
RT abstracts*, VM_pRAY.
J. Eric Townsend <jet@karazm.math.uh.edu or jet@nas.nasa.gov>
ftp.pitt.edu [130.49.253.1]: /users/qralston/images - 24 bit image archive
(small). James Ralston Crawford <qralston@gl.pitt.edu>
ftp.tc.cornell.edu [128.84.201.1]: /pub/vis - *VREND*
sunee.waterloo.edu [129.97.50.50]: /pub/raytracers - vivid, *REND386*
[or sunee.uwaterloo.ca]
archive.umich.edu [141.211.164.153]: /msdos/graphics - PC graphics stuff.
/msdos/graphics/raytrace - VIVID2.
apple.apple.com [130.43.2.2?]: /pub/ArchiveVol2/prt.
research.att.com [192.20.225.2]: /netlib/graphics - *SPD package*, ~/polyhedra -
*polyhedra databases*. (If you don't have FTP, use the netlib
automatic mail replier: UUCP - research!netlib, Internet -
netlib@ornl.gov. Send one line message "send index" for more info,
"send haines from graphics" to get the SPD)
siggraph.org [128.248.245.250]: SIGGRAPH archive site.
publications - *Online Bibliography Project*, Conference proceedings
in various electronic formats (papers, panels), SIGGRAPH Video Review
information and order forms.
Other stuff in various directories.
Automatic mailer is archive-server@siggraph.org ("send index").
ftp.cs.unc.edu [128.109.136.159]: pub/reaction_diffusion - Greg Turk's work on
reaction-diffusion textures, X windows code (SIGGRAPH '91)
avs.ncsc.org [128.109.178.23]: ~ftp/VolVis92 - Volume datasets from the
Boston Workshop on Volume Visualization '92. This site is also the
International AVS Center.
Terry Myerson <tvv@ncsc.org>
uvacs.cs.virginia.edu [128.143.8.100]: pub/suit/demo/{sparc,dec,etc} - SUIT
(Simple User Interface Toolkit). "finger suit@uvacs.cs.virginia.edu"
to get detailed instructions.
nexus.yorku.ca [130.63.9.66]: /pub/reports/Radiosity_code.tar.Z - *RAD*
/pub/reports/Radiosity_thesis.ps.Z - *RAD MSc. Thesis*
[This site will be changed to ftp.yorku.ca in the near future]
milton.u.washington.edu [128.95.136.1] - ~ftp/public/veos - VEOS Virtual
Reality and distributed applications prototyping environment
for Unix. Veos Software Support : veos-support@hitl.washington.edu
oldpublic/fly - FLY! 3D Visualization Software demo.
That package is built for "fly-throughs" from various datasets in
near real-time. There are binaries for many platforms.
Also, much other Virtual Reality stuff.
zug.csmil.umich.edu [141.211.184.2]: X-Xpecs 3D files (an LCD glass shutter
for Amiga computers - great for VR stuff!)
sugrfx.acs.syr.edu [128.230.24.1]: Various stereo-pair images.
[ Has closed down :-( ]
sunsite.unc.edu [152.2.22.81]: /pub/academic/computer-science/virtual-reality -
Final copy of the sugrfx.acs.syr.edu archive that ceased to exist.
It contains Powerglove code, VR papers, 3D images and IRC research
material.
Jonathan Magid <jem@sunSITE.unc.edu>
archive.cis.ohio-state.edu [128.146.8.52]: pub/siggraph92 - Code for
Siggraph '92 Course 23 (Procedural Modeling and Rendering Techniques)
Dr. David S. Ebert <ebert@cis.ohio-state.edu>
lyapunov.ucsd.edu [132.239.86.10]: This machine is considered the
repository for preprints and programs for nonlinear dynamics,
signal processing, and related subjects (and fractals, of course!)
Matt Kennel <mbk@inls1.ucsd.edu>
cod.nosc.mil [128.49.16.5]: /pub/grid.{ps,tex,ascii} - a short survey of
methods to interpolate and contour bivariate data
ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.1]: /honig --- Various stereo-pair images,
movie.c - animates a movie on an X display (8-bit and mono) with
digital subtraction.
taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil [131.120.1.13]: pub/dabro/cyberware_demo.tar.Z - Human
head data
pioneer.unm.edu [129.24.9.217]: pub/texture_maps - Hans du Buf's grayscale
test textures (aerial swatches, Brodatz textures, synthetic swatches).
Space & planetary image repository. Provides access to >150 CD-ROMS
with data/images (3 on-line at a time).
pub/info/beginner-info - here you should start browsing.
Colby Kraybill <opus@pioneer.unm.edu>.
cs.brown.edu [128.148.33.66] : *SRGP/SPHIGS* . For more info on SRGP/SPHIGS:
mail -s 'software-distribution' graphtext@cs.brown.edu
pdb.pdb.bnl.gov [130.199.144.1] has data about various organic molecules,
bonds between the different atoms, etc.
Atomic coordinates (and a load of other stuff) are contained in the
"*.ent" files, but the actual atomic dimemsions seem to be missing.
You could convert these data to PoV, rayshade, etc.
biome.bio.ns.ca [142.2.20.2] : /pub/art - some Renoir paintings,
Escher's pictures, etc.
ic16.ee.umanitoba.ca [] : /specmark - sample set of images from the
`Images from the Edge' CD-ROM (images of atomic landscapes, advanced
semiconductors, superconductors and experimental surface
chemistry among others). Contact ruskin@ee.umanitoba.ca
explorer.dgp.toronto.edu [128.100.1.129] : pub/sgi/clrpaint - *CLRpaint*
pub/sgi/clrview.* - CLRview, a tool that aids in visualization
of GIS datasets in may formats like DXF, DEM, Arc/Info, etc.
ames.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.18.3]: pub/SPACE/CDROM - images from Magellan
and Viking missions etc. Get pub/SPACE/Index first.
pub/SPACELINK has most of the SpaceLink service data (see below)
e-mail server available: send mail to archive-server@ames.arc.nasa.gov
(or ames!archive-server) with subject:"help"
or "send SPACE Index" (without the quotes!)
Peter Yee <yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov>
pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.6.2]: images, other data, etc. from JPL
missions. Modem access at (818)-354-1333 (no parity, 8 data bits, 1
stop bit).
newsdesk@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov or phone (818)-354-7170
spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov [128.158.13.250] (passwd:guest) : space graphics
and GIF images from NASA's planetary probes and the Hubble Telescope.
Main function is support for teachers (you can telnet also to this
site). Dial up access: (205)-895-0028 (300/1200/2400/9600(V.32) baud,
8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit).
stsci.edu [130.167.1.2] : Hubble Space Telescope stuff (images and other
data). Read the README first!
Pete Reppert <reppert@stsci.edu> or Chris O'Dea <odea@stsci.edu>
pit-manager.mit.edu [18.172.1.27]: /pub/usenet/news.answers - the land of
FAQs. graphics and pictures directories of particular interest.
[Also available from mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu by sending a mail
message containing: help]
UUCP archive: avatar - RT News back issues. For details, write Kory Hamzeh
<kory@avatar.avatar.com>
EUROPE:
-------
nic.funet.fi [128.214.6.100]: *pub/sci/papers - *Paper bank project,
including Pete Shirley's entire thesis (with pics)*, *Wilson's RT
abstracts*, pub/misc/CIA_WorldMap - CIA world data bank,
comp.graphics.research archive, *India*, and much, much more.
Juhana Kouhia <jk87377@cs.tut.fi>
dasun2.epfl.ch [128.178.62.2]: Radiance. Good for European sites, but
doesn't carry the add-ons that are available for Radiance.
isy.liu.se [130.236.1.3]: pub/sipp/sipp-3.0.tar.Z - *SIPP* scan line z-buffer
and Phong shading renderer. Jonas Yngvesson <jonas-y@isy.liu.se>
irisa.fr [131.254.2.3]: */iPSC2/VM_pRAY ray tracer*, SPD, /NFF - many non-SPD
NFF format scenes, RayShade data files. Didier Badouel
<badouel@irisa.irisa.fr> [may have disappeared]
phoenix.oulu.fi [130.231.240.17]: *FLI RayTracker animation files (PC VGA) -
also big .FLIs (640*480)* *RayScene demos* [Americans: check wuarchive
first]. More animations to come. Jari Kahkonen
<hole@phoenix.oulu.fi>
jyu.fi [128.214.7.5]: /pub/graphics/ray-traces - many ray tracers, including
VM_pRAY, DBW, DKB, MTV, QRT, RayShade, some RT News, NFF files. Jari
Toivanen <toivanen@jyu.fi>
garbo.uwasa.fi [128.214.87.1]: Much PC stuff, etc., /pc/source/contour.f -
FORTRAN program to contour scattered data using linear triangle-based
interpolation
asterix.inescn.pt [192.35.246.17]: pub/RTrace - *RTrace* nffutils.tar.Z (NFF
utilities for RTrace), medical data (CAT, etc.) converters to NFF,
Autocad to NFF Autolisp code, AUTOCAD 11 to SCN (RTrace's language)
converter and other goodies. Antonio Costa (acc@asterix.inescn.pt)
vega.hut.fi [128.214.3.82]: /graphics - RTN archive, ray tracers (MTV, QRT,
others), NFF, some models.
[ It was shut down months ago , check under nic.funet.fi -- nfotis ]
sun4nl.nluug.nl [192.16.202.2]: /pub/graphics/raytrace - DBW.microray, MTV, etc
unix.hensa.ac.uk [] : misc/unix/ralcgm/ralcgm.tar.Z - CGM viewer and
converter.
There's an e-mail server also - mail to archive@unix.hensa.ac.uk
with the message body "send misc/unix/ralcgm/ralcgm.tar.Z"
maeglin.mt.luth.se [130.240.0.25]: graphics/raytracing - prt, others, ~/Doc -
*Wilson's RT abstracts*, Vivid.
ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.20.225.2]: /pub/unix/graphics/rayshade4.0/inputs -
aq.tar.Z is RayShade aquarium [Americans: check princeton.edu first).
Heiko Schlichting <heiko@math.fu-berlin.de>
maggia.ethz.ch [129.132.17.1]: pub/inetray - *Inetray* and Sun RPC 4.0 code
Andreas Thurnherr <ant@ips.id.ethz.ch>
osgiliath.id.dth.dk [129.142.65.24]: /pub/amiga/graphics/Radiance - *Amiga
port of Radiance 2.0*. Per Bojsen <bojsen@ithil.id.dth.dk>
ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de [134.106.1.9] : *PoV raytracer*
Mirrored in wuarchive, has many goods for PoV.
pub/dkbtrace/incoming/polyray - Polyray raytracer
pub/dkbtrace/incoming/pv3d* - *PV3D*
ftp.uni-kl.de [131.246.9.95]: /pub/amiga/raytracing/imagine - mirror of
the hubcap Imagine files.
neptune.inf.ethz.ch [129.132.101.33]: XYZ - *XYZ GeoBench*
Peter Schorn <schorn@inf.ethz.ch>
iamsun.unibe.ch [130.92.64.10]: /Graphics/graphtal* - a L-system interpreter.
Christoph Streit <streit@iam.unibe.ch>
amiga.physik.unizh.ch [130.60.80.80]: /amiga/gfx - Graphics stuff
for the Amiga computer.
stesis.hq.eso.org [134.171.8.100]: on-line access to a huge astronomical
database. (login:starcat;no passwd)
DECnet:STESIS (It's the Space Telescope European Coordination Facility)
Benoit Pirenne <bpirenne@eso.org>, phone +49 89 320 06 433
MIDDLE EAST
-----------
gauss.technion.ac.il [132.68.112.60]: *kaleida*
AUSTRALIA:
----------
gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au [128.250.70.62]: pub - *VORT(ART) ray tracer*, *VOGLE*,
Wilson's ray tracing abstracts, /pub/contrib/artscenes (ART scenes from
Italy), pub/images/haines - Haines thesis images, Graphics Gems code,
SPD, NFF & OFF databases, NFF and OFF previewers, plus some 8- and
24bit images and lots of other stuff. pub/rad.tar.Z - *SGI_RAD*
Bernie Kirby <bernie@ecr.mu.oz.au>
munnari.oz.au [128.250.1.21]: pub/graphics/vort.tar.Z - *VORT (ART) 2.1 CSG and
algebraic surface ray tracer*, *VOGLE*, /pub - DBW, pbmplus. /graphics
- room.tar.Z (ART scenes from Italy).
David Hook <dgh@munnari.oz.au>
marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au [134.7.1.1]: pub/graphics/bibliography/Facial_Animation,
pub/graphics/bibliography/Morph, pub/graphics/bibliography/UI -
stuff about Facial animation, Morphing and User Interfaces.
pub/fascia - Fred Parke's fascia program.
Valerie Hall <val@lillee.cs.curtin.edu.au>
OCEANIA - ASIA:
---------------
ccu1.aukland.ac.nz [130.216.1.5]: ftp/mac/architec - *VISION-3D facet
based modeller, can output RayShade files*. Many other neat things
for Macs. Paul Bourke <pdbourke@ccu1.aukland.ac.nz>
scslwide.sony.co.jp [133.138.199.1]: ftp2/SGI/Facial-Animation - Steve Franks
site for facial animation.
Steve Franks <stevef@csl.sony.co.jp OR stevef@cs.umr.edu>
4. Mail servers and graphics-oriented BBSes
===========================================
Please check first with the FTP places above, with archie's help.
Don't overuse mail servers.
There are some troubles with wrong return addresses. Many of these
mail servers have a command like
path a_valid_return_e-mail_address
to get a hint for sending back to you stuff.
DEC's FTPMAIL
-------------
Send a one-line message to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com WITHOUT a Subject: field,
and having a line containing the word 'help'.
You should get back a message detailing the relevant procedures you
must follow in order to get the files you want.
Note that the "reply" or "answer" command in your mailer will not work
for this message or any other mail you receive from FTPMAIL. To send
requests to FTPMAIL, send an original mail message, not a reply.
Complaints should be sent to the ftpmail-request@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com
address rather than to postmaster, since DECWRL's postmaster is not
responsible for fixing ftpmail problems.
BITFTP
------
For BITNET sites ONLY, there's BITFTP@PUCC.
Send a one-line 'help' message to this address for more info.
Lightwave 3D mail based file-server
-----------------------------------
A mail based file server for 3D objects, 24bit JPEG images, GIF images
and image maps is now online for all those with Internet mail access.
The server is the official archive site for the Lightwave 3D mail-list
and contains many PD and Shareware graphics utilities for
several computer platforms including Amiga, Atari, IBM and Macintosh.
The server resides on a BBS called "The Graphics BBS". The BBS is
operational 24 hours a day 7 days a week at the phone number of +1
908/469-0049. It has upgraded its modem to a Hayes Ultra 144
V.32bis/V.42bis, which has speeds from 300bps up to 38,400bps.
If you would like to submit objects, scenes or images to the server,
please pack, uuencode and then mail the files to the address:
server@bobsbox.rent.com.
For information on obtaining files from the server send a mail message
to the address file-server@graphics.rent.com with the following in
the body of the message:
HELP
/DIR
And a help file describing how to use the server and a complete
directory listing will be sent to you via mail.
[ Now it includes the Cyberware head and shouders in TTDDD format! Check it
out, only if you can't use FTP! -- nfotis ]
INRIA-GRAPHLIB
--------------
Pierre Jancene and Sabine Coquillart launched the inria-graphlib mail
server a few months ago.
echo help | mail inria-graphlib@inria.fr
will give you a quick summary of what inria-graphlib contains and
how to browse among its files.
echo send contents | mail inria-graphlib@inria.fr
will return the extended summary.
As an other example :
echo send cgrl from Misc | mail inria-graphlib@inria.fr
will return the Computer Graphics Resource Listing mirrored from
comp.graphics.
BBSes
-----
There are many BBSes that store datafiles, etc.etc., but a guide to these
is beyond the scope of this Listing (and the resources of the author!)
If you can point to me Internet- or mail- accessible BBSes that carry
interesting stuff, send me info!
Studio Amiga is a 3D modelling and ray tracing specific BBS, (817) 467-3658.
24 hours, 105 Meg online.
--
From Jeff Walkup <pwappy@well.sf.ca.us>:
"The Castle" 415/355-2396 (14.4K/v.32bis/v.42/v.42bis/MNP)
(In Pacifica, dang close to San Francisco, California, USA)
The new-user password is: "TAO".
[J]oin base #2; The Castle G/FX, Anim, Video, 3D S.I.G., of which
I am the SIG-Op, "Lazerus".
--
Bob Lindabury operates a BBS (see above the entry for "The Graphics BBS")
--
'You Can Call Me Ray' ray tracing related BBS in Chicago suburbs (708-358-5611)
or (708-358-8721)
--
Digital Pixel (Sysop: Mark Ng <mcng@descartes.waterloo.edu>) is based at
Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Phone : (416) 298 1487
Storage space: 330 megs
Modem type: 14.4k baud,16.8k (Zyxel) , v32bis ,v32, mnp 5
Access Fee: none.. (free)
System supported : DOS, OS/2, Amiga, Mac.
Netmail: Currently no echo mail.
Topics: Raytracing, Fractals, Graphics programming, CAD, Any Comp.
Graphics related
--
From: David Tiberio <dtiberio@ic.sunysb.edu>
Amiga Graphics BBS (516) 473-6351 in Long Island, New York,
running 24 hours at 14.4k v.32bis, with 157 megs on line.
We also subscribe to 9 mailing lists, of which 5 originate
from our BBS, with 3 more to be added soon. These include:
Lightwave, Imagine, Real 3D (ray tracing)
Database files include:
Imagine 3D objects, 3D renderings, scalable fonts, music
modules, sound samples, demos, animations, utilities,
text databases, and pending Lightwave 3D objects.
--
The Graphics Alternative
The Graphics Alternative is in El Cerrito, CA., running 24 hours a
day at 14.4k HST/v.32bis, with 642MB online and a 1300+ user base.
TGA runs two nodes, node 1 (510) 524-2780 is for public access and
includes a free 90 day trial subscription. TGA is the West Coast
Host for PCGnet, The Profesional CAD and Graphics Network, supporting
nodes across the Continental U.S., Alaska, New Zealand, Australia,
France and the UK.
TGA's file database includes MS-DOS executables for POV, Vivid,
RTrace, Rayshade, Polyray, and others. TGA also has numerous
graphics utilities, viewers, and conversion utilities. Registered
Vivid users can also download the latest Vivid aeta code from a
special Vivid conference.
--
From: Scott Bethke <sbathkey@access.digex.com>
The Intersection BBS, 410-250-7149.
This BBS Is dedicated to supporting 3D Animators.The system is provided
FREE OF CHARGE, and is NOT Commercialized in ANYWAY.
Users are given FULL Access on the first call.
Features: Usenet NEWS & Internet Mail, Fidonet Echo's & Netmail,
200 Megs online, V.32bis/V.42bis Modem.
Platforms of interest: Amiga & The VideoToaster, Macintosh, Ms-Dos,
Unix Workstations (Sun, SGI, etc), Atari-ST.
--
From: Alfonso Hermida <afanh@robots.gsfc.nasa.gov>:
Pi Square BBS (301)725-9080 in Maryland. It supports raytracers such as POV
and VIVID. The BBS runs off a 486/33Mhz, 100Megs hard drive and CD ROM.
Now it runs on 1200-2400bps (this will change soon)
Topics: graphics programming, animation,raytracing,programming (general)
--
From: Lynn Falkow <ROXXIE@delphi.com>:
Vertech Design's GRAPHIC CONNECTION. (503) 591-8412 in Portland, Oregon.
V.32/V.42bis.
The BBS, aside from carrying typical BBS services like message bases
( all topic specific ) and files ( CAD and graphics related -- hundreds
of megabytes ), also offers material texture files that are full color,
seamlessly tiling, photo-realistic images. There are samples available
to first time callers. The BBS is a subscription system although callers
have 2 hours before they must subscribe, and there are several subscription
rates available. People interested in materials can subscribe to the
library in addition to a basic subscription rate, and can use their
purchased time to download whichever materials they wish.
==========================================================================
5. Ray-tracing/graphics-related mailing lists
=============================================
Imagine
-------
Modeling and animation system for the Amiga:
send subscription requests to Imagine-request@email.sp.paramax.com
send material to Imagine@email.sp.paramax.com
(Dave Wickard has substituted Steve Worley in the maintenance of
the mailing list) - PLEASE note that the unisys.com address is
NO longer valid!!!
Lightwave
---------
(for the Amiga. It's part of Newtek's Video Toaster):
send subscription requests to lightwave-request@bobsbox.rent.com
send material to lightwave@bobsbox.rent.com
(Bob Lindabury)
Toaster
-------
send subscription requests to listserv@karazm.math.uh.edu with a *body* of:
subscribe toaster-list
Real 3D
-------
Another modeling and animation system for the Amiga:
To subscribe, send a mail containing the body
subscribe real3d-l <Your full name>
to listserv@gu.uwa.edu.au
Rayshade
--------
send subscription requests to rayshade-request@cs.princeton.edu
send material to rayshade-users@cs.princeton.edu
(Craig Kolb)
Alladin 4D for the Amiga
----------
send subscription requests to subscribe@xamiga.linet.org
and in the body of the message write
#Alladin 4D username@domain
Radiance
--------
Greg Ward, the author, sends to registered (via e-mail) users digests of
his correspodence with them, notes about fixes, updates, etc.
His address is: gjward@lbl.gov
REND386
-------
send subscription requests to rend386-request@sunee.waterloo.edu
send material to rend386@sunee.waterloo.edu
PoV ray / DKB raytracers
------------------------
To subscribe, send a mail containing the body
subscribe dkb-l <Your full name>
to listserv@trearn.bitnet
send material to dkb-l@trearn.bitnet
Mailing List for Massively Parallel Rendering
---------------------------------------------
send subscription requests to mp-render-request@icase.edu
send material to mp-render@icase.edu
==========================================================================
6. 3D graphics editors
======================
a. Public domain, free and shareware systems
============================================
VISION-3D
---------
Mac-based program written by Paul D. Bourke (pdbourke@ccu1.aukland.ac.nz).
The program can be used to generate models directly in the RayShade
and Radiance file formats (polygons only).
It's shareware and listed on the FTP list.
BRL
---
A solid modeling system for most environments -- including SGI and X11.
It has CSG and NURBS, plus support for Non-Manifold Geometry
[Whatever it is].
You can get it *free* via FTP by signing and returning the relevant license,
found on ftp.brl.mil. Uses ray-tracing for engineering analyses.
Contact:
Ms. Carla Moyer
(410)-273-7794 tel.
(410)-272-6763 FAX
cad-dist@brl.mil E-mail
Snail mail:
BRL-CAD Distribution
SURVIAC Aberdeen Satellite Office 1003
Old Philadelphia Road,
Suite 103 Aberdeen
MD 21001 USA
IRIT
----
A constructive solid geometry (CSG) modeling program for PC and X11.
Includes freeform surface support. Free - see FTP list for where to
find it.
SurfModel
---------
A solid modeling program for PC written in Turbo Pascal 6.0 by
Ken Van Camp. Available from SIMTEL, pd1:<msdos.srfmodl> directory.
NOODLES
-------
From CMU, namely Fritz Printz and Levent Gursoz (elg@styx.edrc.cmu.edu).
It's based on Non Manifold Topology.
Ask them for more info, I don't know if they give it away.
XYZ2
----
XYZ2 is an interactive 3-D editor/builder written by Dale P. Stocker to
create objects for the SurfaceModel, Automove, and DKB raytracer packages.
XYZ2 is free and can be found, for example, in SIMTEL20 as
<MSDOS.SURFMODL>XYZ21.ZIP (DOS only??)
3DMOD
-----
It's an MSDOS program. Check at barnacle.erc.clarkson.edu [128.153.28.12],
/pub/msdos/graphics/3dmod.* . Undocumented file format :-(
3DMOD is (C) 1991 by Micah Silverman, 25 Pierrepoint Ave., Postdam,
New York 13676, tel. 315-265-7140
NORTHCAD
--------
Shareware, <MSDOS.CAD>NCAD3D42.ZIP in SIMTEL20. Undocumented file format :-(
Vertex
------
(Amiga)
Shareware, send $40 US (check or money order) to:
The Art Machine, 4189 Nickolas
Sterling Heights, MI 48310
USA
In addition to the now standard file formats, including Lightwave,
Imagine, Sculpt, Turbo Silver, GEO and Wavefront, this release offers
3D Professional and RayShade support. (Rayshade is supported only by
the primitive "triangle", but you can easily include this output in
your RayShade scripts)
The latest demo, version 1.62, is available on Fred Fish #727.
For more information, contact the author, Alex Deburie, at:
ad99s461@sycom.mi.org, Phone: (313) 939-2513
ICoons
------
(Amiga)
It's a spline based object modeller ("ICoons" = Interactive
COONS path editor) in amiga.physik.unizh.ch (gfx/3d/ICoons1.0.lzh).
It's free (under the GNU Licence) and requires FPU.
The program has a look&feel which is a cross between Journeyman and
Imagine, and it generates objects in TTDDD format.
It is possible to load Journeyman objects into ICoons, so the program
can be used to convert JMan objects to Imagine format.
Author: Helge E. Rasmussen <her@compel.dk>
PHONE + 45 36 72 33 00, FAX + 45 36 72 43 00
[ It's also on Fred Fish disk series n.775 - nfotis ]
ProtoCAD 3D
-----------
Ver 1.1 from Trius (shareware?)
It's at wsmr-simtel20.army.mil and oak.oakland.edu as PCAD3D.ZIP (for PCs)
It has this menu layout:
FILE File handling (Load, Save, Import, Xport...)
DRAW Draw 2D objects (Line, Circle, Box...)
3D Draw 3D objects (Mesh, Sphere, Block...)
EDIT Editing features (Copy, Move ...)
SURFACE Modify objects (Revolve, Xtrude, Sweep...)
IMAGE Image zooming features (Update, Window, Half...)
OPTION Global defaults (Grid, Toggles, Axis...)
PLOT Print drawing/picture (Go, Image...)
RENDER Shade objects (Frame, Lighting, Tune...)
LAYER Layer options (Select active layer, set Colors...)
+Sculptura
+---------
+ Runs under Windows 3.1, and outputs PoV files. A demo can be found
+ on wuarchive.wustl.edu in mirrors/win3/demo/demo3d.zip
+
+ Author: Michael Gibson <gibsonm@stein.u.washington.edu>
b. Commercial systems
=====================
Alpha_1
-------
A spline-based modeling program written in University of Utah.
Features: splines up to trimmed NURBS; support for boolean operations;
sweeps, bending, warping, flattening etc.; groups of objects, and
transformations; extensible object types.
Applications include: NC machining, Animation utilities,
Dimensioning, FEM analysis, etc.
Rendering subsystem, with support for animations.
Support the following platforms: HP 300 and 800's (X11R4, HP-UX 6.5),
SGI 4D or PI machines (X11R4 and GL, IRIX 3.3.1), Sun SparcStation
(X11R4, SunOS 4.1.1).
Licensing and distribution is handled by EGS:
Glenn McMinn, President
Engineering Geometry Systems
275 East South Temple, Suite 305
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
(801) 575-6021
mcminn@cs.utah.edu
[ Educational pricing ]
The charge is $675 per platform. You may run the system on as many
different workstations of that type as you wish. For each platform
there is also a $250 licensing fee for Portable Standard Lisp (PSL)
which is bundled with the system. You need to obtain an additional
license from the University of Utah for PSL from the following address:
Professor Robert Kessler
Computer Science Department
University of Utah
Salt Lake City, Utah 84112
[ EGS can handle the licensing of PSL for U.S. institutions for a
300 $USD nominal fee -- nfotis ]
VERTIGO
-------
They have an Educational Institution Program. The package is used in
the industrial design, architectural, scientific visualization,
educational, broadcast, imaging and post production fields.
They'll [quoting from a letter sent to me -- nfotis ] "donate fully
configured Vertigo 3D Graphics Software worth over $29,000USD per
package to qualified educational institutions for licencing on any
number of Silicon Graphics Personal IRIS or POWER Series Workstations.
If you use an IRIS Indigo station, we will also licence our Vertigo
Revolution Software (worth $12,000USD).
If you are interested in participating in this program please send a
letter by mail or fax (604/684-2108) on your institution's letterhead
briefly outlining your potential uses for Vertigo together with the
following information: 1. UNIX version 2. Model and number of SGI
systems 3. Peripheral devices 4. Third Party Software.
Participants will be asked to contribute $750USD per institution to cover
costs of the manual, administration, and shipping.
We recommend that Vertigo users subscribe to our technical support
services. For an annual fee you will receive: technical assistance
on our support hotline, bug fixes, software upgrades and manual updates.
For educational institution we will waive the $750 administration fee
if support is purchased.
The annual support fee is $2,500 plus the following cost for additional
machines:
Number of machines: 2-20 20+
Additional cost per machine: $700 $600 "
[ There's also a 5-day training program - nfotis]
Contact:
Vertigo Technology INC
Suite 1010
1030 West Georgia St.
VANCOUVER, BC
CANADA, V6E 2Y3
Phone: 604/684-2113
Fax: 604/684-2108
[ Does anyone know of such offers from TDI, Alias, Softimage, Wavefront,
etc.??? this would be a VERY interesting part!! -- nfotis ]
PADL-2
------
[ Basically, it's a Solid Modeling Kernel in top of which you build your
application(s)]
Available by license from
Cornell Programmable Automation
Cornell University
106 Engineering and Theory Center
Ithaca, NY 14853
License fees are very low for educational institutions and gov't agencies.
Internal commercial licenses and re-dissemination licenses are available.
For an information packet, write to the above address, or send your
address to: marisa@cpa.tn.cornell.edu (Richard Marisa)
ACIS
----
From Spatial Technology. It's a Solid Modelling kernel callable from C.
Heard that many universities got free copies from the company.
The person to contact regarding ACIS in academic institutions is
Scott Owens, e-mail: sdo@spatial.com
And their address is:
Spatial Technology, Inc.
2425 55th St., Bldg. A
Boulder, CO 80301-5704
Phone: (303) 449-0649, Fax: (303) 449-0926
MOVIE-BYU / CQUEL.BYU
---------------------
Basically [in my understanding], this is a FEM pre- and post-proccessor
system. It's fairly old today, but it still serves some people in
Mech. Eng. Depts.
Now it's superseded from CQUEL.BYU (pronounced "sequel"). That's a
complete modelling, animation and visualization package. Runs in the usual
workstation environments (SUN, DEC, HP, SGI, IBM RS6000, and others)
You can get a demo version (30-days trial period) either by sending $20
USD in their address or a blank tape. It costs 1,500 for a full run-time
licence.
Contact:
Engineering Computer Graphics Lab
368 Clyde Building, Brigham Young Univ.
Provo, UT 84602
Phone: 801-378-2812
E-mail: cquel@byu.edu
twixt
-----
Soon to add stuff about it... If I get a reply to my FAX
VOXBLAST
--------
It's a volume renderer marketed by:
Vaytek Inc. (Fairfield, Iowa phone: 515-472-2227) , running on PCs
with 386+FPU at least. Call Vaytek for more info.
VoxelBox
--------
A 3D Volume renderer for Windows. Features include direct
ray-traced volume rendering, color and alpha mapping,
gradient lighting, animation, reflections and shadows.
Runs on a PC(386 or higher) with at least an 8 bit video card(SVGA is fine)
under Windows 3.x. It costs $495.
Contact:
Jaguar Software Inc.
573 Main St., Suite 9B
Winchester, MA 01890
(617) 729-3659
jwp@world.std.com (john w poduska)
==========================================================================
7. Scene description languages
==============================
NFF
---
Neutral file format , by Eric Haines. Very simple, there are some
procedural database generators in the SPD package, and many objects
floating in various FTP sites. There's also a previewer written in
HP Starbase from E.Haines. Also there's one written in VOGLE, so you can
use any of the devices VOGLE can output on.
(Check in sites carrying VOGLE, like gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au)
OFF
---
Object file format, from DEC's Randy Rost (rost@kpc.com).
[ The object archive server seems to be mothballed. In a future version,
I'll remove the ref. to it -- nfotis ]
Available also through their mail server. To obtain help about using this
service, send a message with a "Subject:" line containing only the word
"help" and a null message body to: object-archive-server@decwrl.dec.com.
[For FTP places to get it, see in the relevant place]. There's an OFF
previewer for SGI 4D machines, called off-preview in
godzilla.cgl.rmit.oz.au . There are previewers for xview and sunview,
also on gondwana.
TDDD
----
It's a library of 3D objects with translators to/from OFF, NFF,
Rayshade, Imagine or vort objects.
Edited copy of the announcement follows (from Raytracing News, V4,#3):
New Library of 3D Objects Available via FTP, by Steve Worley
(worley@cup.portal.com)
I have assembled a set of over 150 3D objects in a binary format
called TDDD. These objects range from human figures to airplanes,
from semi-trucks to lampposts. These objects are all freely
distributable, and most have READMEs that describe them.
In order to convert these objects to a human-readable format, a file
with the specification of TDDD is included in the directory with the
objects. There is also a shareware system called TTDDDLIB (officially
on hubcap.clemson.edu) that will convert (ala PBM+) to/from various
object formats : Imagine TTDDD (extension of TDDD?), OFF, NFF,
Rayshade 4.0, or vort. Source included for Amiga/Unix as executables
for the Amiga. Also outputs Framemaker MIF files and isometric views
in Postscript.
P3D
---
From Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center. The P3D uses lisp with slight
extensions to store three-dimensional models. A simple lisp
interpreter is included with the P3D release, so there is no need to
have access to any vendor's lisp to run this software.
The mouse-driven user interfaces for Motif, Open Look, and Silicon
Graphics GL, and the DrawP3D subroutine library for generating P3D
without ever looking at the underlying Lisp.
The P3D software currently supports nine renderers. They are:
Painter - Painter's Algorithm, Dore, Silicon Graphics Inc. GL language,
Generic Phigs, Sun Phigs+, DEC Phigs+, Rayshade, ART ray tracer (from
VORT package) and Pixar RenderMan.
The code is available via anonymous FTP from the machines
ftp.psc.edu, directory pub/p3d, and nic.funet.fi, directory
pub/graphics/programs/p3d.
RenderMan
---------
Pixar's RenderMan is not free - call Pixar for details.
==========================================================================
8. Solids description formats
=============================
a. EEC's ESPRIT project 322 CAD*I (CAD Interfaces) has developed a
neutral file format for transfer of CAD data (curves, surfaces, and
solid models between CAD systems and from CAD to CAA (Computer Aided
Analysis) an CAM (Computer Aided Manufacturing)
b. IGES [v. 5.1 now] tries to define a standard to tranfer solid
models - Brep and CSG. The current standard number is ANSI Y14.26M-1987
For documentation, you might want to contact Nancy Flower at
NCGA Technical Services and Standards, 1-800-225-6242 ext. 325
and the cost is $100.
This standard is not available in electronic format.
c. PDES/STEP : This slowly emerging standard tries to encompass not only
the geometrical information, but also for things like FEM, etc.
The main bodies besides this standard are NIST and DARPA. You can get
more information about PDES by sending mail to nptserver@cme.nist.gov
and putting the line
send index
in the body (NOT the Subject:) area of the message.
The people at Rutherford Appleton Lab. are also working
on STEP tools: they have an EXPRESS compiler and an Exchange file parser,
both available in source form (and for free) for research purposes.
Soon they will also have an EXPRESS-based database system.
For the tools contact Mike Mead, Phone: +44 (0235) 44 6710 (FAX: x 5893),
e-mail: mm@inf.rl.ac.uk or {...!}mcsun!uknet!rlinf!mm or
mm%inf.rl.ac.uk@NSFnet-relay.ac.uk
==========================================================================
End of Part 1 of the Resource Listing
--
Nick (Nikolaos) Fotis National Technical Univ. of Athens, Greece
HOME: 16 Esperidon St., InterNet : nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr
Halandri, GR - 152 32 UUCP: mcsun!ariadne!theseas!nfotis
Athens, GREECE FAX: (+30 1) 77 84 578
|
3865 | From: finn@convex.com (Tom Finn)
Subject: Re: multiple desktops
Nntp-Posting-Host: eugene.convex.com
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
not necessarily those of CONVEX.
Lines: 22
In article <C56BHt.7qF@news.Hawaii.Edu> dmcgee@uluhe.soest.hawaii.edu (Don McGee) writes:
>
>Is there a free/share( ware) package that will allow multiple
>desktops in windows 3.1. What is desired is to have a desk top
>for several people that each can personalize by name and choice
>of programs etc.
There's a package called Workspace on cica that has 5 desktops; I
haven't done much with it yet, but it seems to be able to do what you
want it to.
Don't have the exact archive name handy, but it's something like
wspace<blah>.zip.
Tom
--
finn@convex.com I speak only for myself.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Peace is the name of the ideal we have deduced from the fact that there have
been pauses between wars." Jerry Pournelle in "The Mercenary"
|
3866 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: health care reform
Article-I.D.: pitt.19408
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 24
In article <LMC001@wrc.wrgrace.com> custer@wrc.wrgrace.com (Linda Custer) writes:
>This is my first post, and I am not even sure it will work. Here goes.
>
>Did anyone read the editorial on page 70 in the 29 march 1993 edition of Time
>Magazine, noting that managed care is extremely inefficient? Of all the possible
>clients that Billary could be pandering to, the insurance industry is the worst!
>
>Comments?
I agree. Adding layers of managers and bureaucrats simply eat up
money that could be spent on those who actually are doing the work
such as doctors and nurse, and supplies. The most efficient system
is probably one that has limited management and a fixed budget such
as England's or even Canada's. I'm afraid we are on the wrong
track. The problem may be that the insurance lobby is too powerful.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
3867 | From: microfsh@iastate.edu (Alex Fagundes)
Subject: FOR SALE: CHEAP LOGIC BOARDS!!! (update)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Lines: 67
Here's the updated list of the stuff I still have for sale. Also, feel free to
make an offer. I'm asking $15 per board.
Currently known Electronic mother boards from old arcade games:
Game Name Condition Manufacturer
------------------------------------------------------------
-1-
TenYard Fight ? Iren
TenYard Fight Bad(internal short) Iren
Kangaroo ? Sun Electronics?
-2-
Mr.Do Okay,but has interference ?
Guardian
Tip Top ? Sega
Bank Panic ? Sega
Sanritsu ? Sega
*Radar Scope Okay Nintendo?
-3-
Poseidon ? Taito
Ninjakun Bad(needs capacitor&crystal) ?
Jass Rack ? Jamma
Double Dribble ?
-6-
Zoar Okay ?
Super Trivia Bad (got fried) Greyhound Electronics
-9-
Slither Has error message Century II Corp.
-10-
Music Trivia ? JALECO
Samurai Fore Groud char. disapear Taito
Poseidon Okay Taito
-11-
Ant Eater ? Tago Electronics
Up n Down buzzing sound ?
Tutankham Bad Konami
Pro Wrestling Okay
Video Trivia ? GrayHound
Asteron Belt ? Sega
Unknown boards
Sega (1)
Konami (1)
Pacific Novelty Manufacturing Inc (9)
(if anyone has the rom numbers for these boards, please tell me)
1 absolutely unknown board
--Misc Stuff--
Somekind of powersupply(similar to atary audio reg.) ?
Ram Card ? Midway
Midway Patter Board
Z-80 Sync Buss Controller-285 (2)
Pacman Filters (16) ? Midway
50pin scsi cable(2)
(both ends are female)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Alex Fagundes - Proud owner of a 76 Maverick :) and another |
| microfsh@iastate.edu - believer that AMIGA rules |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
3868 | From: cdw@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Walton)
Subject: Upgrading a modem ...
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University
Lines: 19
I have an old tandon type modem (that's all the info I have apart from
the fact that it is black!). Does anyone have any info about this modem
or upgrading it ??? Reply by e-mail please to cdw@dcs.ed.ac.uk.
===============================================================================
= Chris - E-mail: cdw@dcs.ed.ac.uk or C.Walton@ed or p92019@cplab.ph.ed.ac.uk =
= Tel.: 031-667-9764 or 0334-74244 (at weekends) =
= Write: 4/2 Romero Place, Edinburgh, EH16 5BJ. =
===============================================================================
Finagle's Fourth Law:
Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it only makes it worse.
===============================================================================
--
===============================================================================
= Chris - E-mail: cdw@dcs.ed.ac.uk or C.Walton@ed or p92019@cplab.ph.ed.ac.uk =
= Tel.: 031-667-9764 or 0334-74244 (at weekends) =
= Write: 4/2 Romero Place, Edinburgh, EH16 5BJ. =
|
3869 | From: kennejs@a.cs.okstate.edu (KENNEDY JAMES SCOT)
Subject: Re: A universal RIGHT to bear arms? NOT!
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Lines: 73
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>In article <1993Apr2.080842.3554@a.cs.okstate.edu> kennejs@a.cs.okstate.edu
(KENNEDY JAMES SCOT) writes:
> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
>> >In article <1993Apr1.173759.4636@cs.yale.edu>
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu writes:
>> >>In article <C4sK5w.Lsr@ms.uky.edu> miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
writes:
>> >>> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
>> >> >
>> >>> >I suppose that's true if you maintain that AK-47s and AR-15s are hunting
>> >>> >weapons. I think they are fun to "plink" cans/targets/random VC with,
>> >>> >but not suitable for "real" hunting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Wrong. Both are legal to hunt with here in Kentucky. I have a picture of
>> >>> a friend with a nice 8-point buck which he shot with his AR-15 rifle.
>> >>
>> >>I don't think many deer hunters would condone your friends choice of
>> >>rifle.
>
>> >I must agree with Nathan. As a deer hunter, I find it inhumane to use
>> >underpowered weapons for deer hunting. To kill cleanly with the little
>> >.223 requires extremely good marksmanship. Most hunting situations don't
>> >allow for "perfect" shots. Hunters should use sufficiently powerful
>> >weapons to drop the deer with a single hit to the chest. The 7.62x39
>> >from the AKS-47 or SKS is adequate to this task, having similar ballistics
>> >to the familiar 30-30, but the little .223 is very marginal. In the
>> >hands of the expert, or the lucky, it will do, but hunters really
>> >should have more respect for their quarry.
>
>> >Gary
>
>> I'll agree that the popular 55 gr. loading for .223 rem. is too small for
>> deer-sized game. However, if you use a 70 gr. semi-spritzer or the Sierra
>> 63 gr. semi-pointed bullet this would be suitable (like any round,
>> you keep your shots within a reasonable range). It would still be on the
>> lower end of what I'd consider acceptable performance, especially those
>> long distance shots out West hunting Monster Mule Deer. The .223 rem. has
>> been declared legal for deer hunting in Oklahoma.
>
>> The .223 is excellent for varmit hunting and pest control. The AR-15 in
>> particular is well suited, given its heavy barrel and heat shielded foregrip.
>> Add a high-power scope, and you're in "Dog heaven".
>
>> However, I don't think Nathan Janette was refering to the specific chambering
>> of the rifle in question. Maybe he thinks self loading rifles have no
>> place in deer hunting. That may (or may not) be his opinion, but many
>> sportsmen do use self loading rifles and shotguns.
>Wrongo, NRA man. I was definitely referring to the round, not the
>auto-loading aspect of the rifle. I have no problem with *responsible*
>hunting. That doesn't include machine guns from choppers, but a semi is
>fine. My uncle has bagged several deer with 12 gauge slugs. I would prefer
>that a hunter use as much of the catch as possible, and I don't condone
>hunting for "sport" only.
>IMHO, of course.
Two questions:
1) You asserted that both the AR-15 and AK-47 are not suitable for
"real hunting". If you have no problem with hunting, or using
self loading rifles for hunting, why did you say this? If not
for deer, then what about other, smaller game?
2) When did I get the nickname "NRA man"? Notice I have never referred
to you as "Janette" which you don't seem to like. Do I get any
super-powers, like Spider Man or Powdered Toast Man?
Scott Kennedy Brewer, Patriot, and now NRA-Man, defender of Truth,
Justice, and the 2nd Amendment.
kennejs@a.cs.okstate.edu
|
3870 | From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Subject: ESPN sucks: OT or Baseball? Guess which.
Nntp-Posting-Host: ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Lines: 10
Showing a meaningless (relatively) baseball game over the overtime of
game that was tied up with less than 3 seconds left on the clock?
Gimme a break! Where does ESPN get these BRILLIANT decisions from?
Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets
Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca
FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4 (please route through 348/700)
Tkachuk over to Zhamnov, up to Sel{nne, he shoots, he scores!
The Jets win the Cup! The Jets win the Cup!
Essensa for Vezina! Housley for Norris! Sel{nne for Calder!
|
3871 | From: A.D.Bailey@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Utility for updating Win.ini and system.ini
Reply-To: A.D.Bailey@lut.ac.uk (Adrian D.Bailey)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Lines: 11
In article <1993Apr20.085638.29338@news.uit.no> sp@odin.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Svein Pedersen) writes:
>I nead a utility for updating (deleting, adding, changing) *.ini files for Windows.
>
>Do I find it on any FTP host?
>
>Svein
>
In Windows 3.0 there is a built-in called sysedit.exe that is just what you
need. Windows 3.1 I don't know......
|
3872 | From: reid@cs.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: Cell Church discussion group
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Lines: 15
I am beginning an e-mail discussion group about cell churches. If you are
a follower of Jesus Christ and are
- in a cell church, or
- in a church that is transitioning to a cell church, or
- just interested in learning more about cell churches,
send me e-mail. (I reserve the right to remove anybody from the group who
does not demonstrate a spirit of humility and Christlikeness.)
--
******************************************************************
* Jon Reid * He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep *
* reid@cs.uiuc.edu * to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot *
******************************************************************
|
3873 | From: bentz@blustone.uucp (Ray Bentz)
Subject: SPARC IPC Sprite goes off screen
Organization: Bluestone Consulting Inc.
Lines: 21
Environment:
X11R4
Motif 1.1.4
Sun IPC 4.1.3
Problem:
When mouse is moved across screen horizontally, the sprite goes off
of the edge of the screen and reappears at the *other* edge.
It appears that the server thinks we are running in multi-screen
mode; the cursor seems to "wrap" from one side of the screen to
the other.
As far as we can tell, we are not running the server in multi-screen
mode.
Please reply via E-mail.
--
Ray Bentz Phone: (609)727-4600
Bluestone Consulting, Inc. Fax: (609)778-8125
1200 Church Street uunet: uunet!blustone!bentz
Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 Internet: blustone!bentz@uunet.uu.net
|
3874 | From: dsiegel@optima.cs.arizona.edu (Seagull)
Subject: Re: WP-PCF, Linux, RISC?
Lines: 54
>> The RISC means "reduced instruction set computer". The RISC usually has
>>small instruction set so as to reduce the circuit complex and can increase
>>the clock rate to have a high performance. You can read some books about
>>computer architecture for more information about RISC.
> hmm... not that I am an authority on RISC ;-) but I clearly remember
> reading that the instruction set on RISC CPUs is rather large.
> The difference is in addressing modes - RISC instruction sets are not
> as orthogonal is CISC.
There are some things you might be interested to know about today's RISC
processors. It is true that there are fewer instructions, but what is
not commonly known is that this causes the size of your executables to
swell, so that in some cases performance is similar for larger applications.
As a compromise, many RISC processors today are actually a cross between
a Reduced Instructions Set, and a Complex one.
This is not to say that there is no future in CISC processors, Intel has
certainly proved that.
What I want to know, is what does this have to do with this group?
-dave
Subject: Re: WP-PCF, Linux, RISC?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.dos-under-unix,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.net,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,man.linux
References: <1qu8ud$2hd@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au>
From article <1qu8ud$2hd@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au>, by eugene@mpce.mq.edu.au:
> In article <C5o1yq.M34@csie.nctu.edu.tw> ghhwang@csie.nctu.edu.tw (ghhwang) writes:
>>
>>Dear friend,
>> The RISC means "reduced instruction set computer". The RISC usually has
>>small instruction set so as to reduce the circuit complex and can increase
>>the clock rate to have a high performance. You can read some books about
>>computer architecture for more information about RISC.
>
> hmm... not that I am an authority on RISC ;-) but I clearly remember
> reading that the instruction set on RISC CPUs is rather large.
> The difference is in addressing modes - RISC instruction sets are not
> as orthogonal is CISC.
>
> --
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | Some people say it's fun, but I think it's very serious. |
> | eugene@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au |
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
--
Dave Siegel (DS4)
President, RTD Systems and Networking, Inc.
President, UofAz Hardware And Computing Knowledge Society (HACKS)
dsiegel@cs.arizona.edu **** dsiegel@hacks.arizona.edu **** dsiegel@rtd.com
|
3875 | From: erick@andr.UB.com (Eric A. Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Drinking and Riding
Nntp-Posting-Host: pixel.andr.ub.com
Reply-To: erick@andr.UB.com
Organization: Ungermann-Bass Inc./Andover, MA
Lines: 7
Personally, I follow the no alcohol rule when I'm on a bike. My view is that you have to be in such a high degree of control that any alcohol could be potentially hazardous to my bike! If I get hurt it's my own fault, but I don't want to wreck my Katana. I developed this philosophy from an impromptu *experiment*. I had one beer at 6:00 in the evening and had volleyball practice at 7:00. I wasn't even close to leagle intoxication, but I couldn't perform even the most basic things until 8:30! This made
me think about how I viewed alcohol and intoxication. You may seem fine, but your reactions may be affected such that you'll be unable to recover from hitting a rock or even just a gust of wind. I greatly enjoy social drinking but, for me, it just doesn't mix with riding.
Max enjoyment!
Eric
|
3876 | From: Donald Mackie <Donald_Mackie@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: OB-GYN residency
Organization: UM Anesthesiology
Lines: 21
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.214.86.38
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXDate: Tue, 20 Apr 93 16:46:24 GMT
In article <1993Apr20.004158.6122@cnsvax.uwec.edu> David Nye,
nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>
>>>I believe it is illegal for a residency to discriminate against
FMGs.
>
>>Is that true? I know some that won't even interview FMGs.
>
>I think a case could be made that this is discriminatory,
particularly
>if an applicant had good board scores and recommendations but wasn't
>offered an interview, but I don't know if it has ever gone to court.
FMGs who are not citizens are, like all aliens, in a difficult
situation. Only citizens get to vote here, so non-citizens are of
little or no interest to legislators. Also, the non-citizen may well
be in the middle of processing for resident alien status. There is a
stron sense that rocking the boat (eg. suing a residency program)
will delay the granting of that status, perhaps for ever.
Don Mackie - his opinions
|
3877 | From: jimmyhua@aludra.usc.edu (Jimmy Huang)
Subject: [Q] Connor PC 30204 jumper settings
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Anyone who knows this answer off-hand, please answer me by e-mail
quickly ;).
There is a pair of jumpers on one side, and a set of 3 or 4 on the
other end. One is labeled, sync , and one CD, and E0 E1 E2.
Whhich do I need to short, or disconnect to get drive to operate
in slave mode? Give me a label or "geographic
label, as they have quite a few jumpers, and I don't wanna try the
trial and error method...
I am using IDE. I think this drive is SCSI compatible too.
Jimmy
jimmyhua@usc.edu
|
3878 | From: maennig@veronica.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Olaf Maennig)
Subject: Problems with A/ROSE
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Lines: 28
Distribution: world
Reply-To: maennig@veronica.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: veronica.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Does anyone work with the A/ROSE card?
We have the problem that after certain crashes the card disappears from the
system, and lets crash the Mac then.
Okay, we don't use the card quite like one should, because we simulate
errors in the 68000. Before every instruction some specified registers are
masked, eg. to simulate a stuck-at-1-error in certain bits.
Normally, the "crash instance" of A/ROSE notices a crash, sets a flag and
stops working. By reading the mentioned flag the Mac can notice a card
crash. That works fine for almost all crashes, but as said, sometimes the
card doesn't set the flag and disappears from the system.
The documentation of A/ROSE does not tell us anything about its behavior
when crashing, and so at the moment we are trying to understand by analyzing
the assembler code, and that's both frustrating and lengthy.
So, can anyone help?
Please only reply via email, as I don't read this group.
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
_ Department of Computer Science IV
/ \ |\/| University of Dortmund, Germany
\_/laf | |aennig e-mail: maennig@veronica.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"In the beginning God created Adam ... ahem! ... atoms. Atoms of hydrogen."
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
3879 | From: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Subject: Re: "Sprayed-on" Bedliner Info Wanted
Reply-To: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
Lines: 28
In rec.autos, dennis@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dennis Schloeman) writes:
xSorry to repost this again so soon, but
xthe information from my earlier post was
xdeleted from our system.
>
xI am looking for information concerning
x"sprayed-on" bedliners for pickup trucks.
xA company here does it using polyurethene
xbut they've only been around for 9 months
xso there's not much of a track record here.
xIs the sprayed-on bedliner any good? How
xwell do they hold up over the years? Any
xinfo would be appreciated.
x
xThanks.
x
xDennis
Do you have a Ziebart dealer in your area? They've offered spray
on bed liners around here for several years. If you do, see what
kind of a warranty they have. ( Unfortunately, I don't know anyone
who has gotten one so I can't help you there.) Also ask if they
can give you a list of references.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mack Costello <mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil> Code 65.1 (formerly 1720.1)
David Taylor Model Basin, Carderock Division Hq. NSWC ___/-\____
Bethesda, MD 20084-5000 Phone (301) 227-2431 (__________>|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
3880 | From: mac@utkvx.bitnet (Richard J. McDougald)
Subject: Re: Why does Illustrator AutoTrace so poorly?
Organization: University of Tennessee
Lines: 22
In article <0010580B.vmcbrt@diablo.UUCP> diablo.UUCP!cboesel (Charles Boesel) writes:
Yeah, Corel Draw and WordPerfect Presentations pretty limited here, too.
Since there's no (not really) such thing as a decent raster to
vector conversion program, this "tracing" technique is about it. Simple
stuff, like b&w logos, etc. do pretty well, while more complicated stuff
goes haywire. I suspect (even though I don't write code) that a good
bitmapped to vector conversion program would probably be as big as most
of these application softwares we're using -- but even so, how come one
hasn't been written? (to my knowledge). I mean, even Hijaak, one of the
commercial industry standards of file conversion, hasn't attempted it yet.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Mac McDougald * Any opinions expressed herein
The Photography Center * are not necessarily (actually,
Univ. of Tenn. Knoxville 37996 * are almost CERTAINLY NOT) those
mac@utkvx.utk.edu * of The University of Tennessee.
mac@utkvx.bitnet *
(615-974-3449) * "Things are more like they are now
(615-974-6435) FAX * than they've ever been before."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|
3881 | From: rlglende@netcom.com (Robert Lewis Glendenning)
Subject: Re: Organized Lobbying for Cryptography
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 21
Generally, an organization has influence in proportion to:
The narrowness of its objectives
The number of members
The strength of belief of its members
This is why the pro- and anti-abortion groups are so strong: narrow objectives,
lots of interested members who are real passionate.
For this reason, mixing with the NRA is probably a bad idea. It diffuses
the interests of both groups. It may well diminish the Passion Index
of the combined organization. It is not clear it would greatly enlarge
the NRA.
So, I believe a new organization, which may cooperate with NRA where the
two organization's interest coincide, is the optimum strategy.
lew
--
Lew Glendenning rlglende@netcom.com
"Perspective is worth 80 IQ points." Niels Bohr (or somebody like that).
|
3882 | From: bed@intacc.uucp (Deb Waddington)
Subject: INFO NEEDED: Gaucher's Disease
Distribution: Everywhere
Expires: 01 Jun 93
Reply-To: bed@intacc.UUCP (Deb Waddington)
Organization: Matrix Artists' Network
Lines: 33
I have a 42 yr old male friend, misdiagnosed as having
osteopporosis for two years, who recently found out that his
illness is the rare Gaucher's disease.
Gaucher's disease symptoms include: brittle bones (he lost 9
inches off his hieght); enlarged liver and spleen; internal
bleeding; and fatigue (all the time). The problem (in Type 1) is
attributed to a genetic mutation where there is a lack of the
enzyme glucocerebroside in macrophages so the cells swell up.
This will eventually cause death.
Enyzme replacement therapy has been successfully developed and
approved by the FDA in the last few years so that those patients
administered with this drug (called Ceredase) report a remarkable
improvement in their condition. Ceredase, which is manufactured
by biotech biggy company--Genzyme--costs the patient $380,000
per year. Gaucher's disease has justifyably been called "the most
expensive disease in the world".
NEED INFO:
I have researched Gaucher's disease at the library but am relying
on netlanders to provide me with any additional information:
**news, stories, reports
**people you know with this disease
**ideas, articles about Genzyme Corp, how to get a hold of
enough money to buy some, programs available to help with
costs.
**Basically ANY HELP YOU CAN OFFER
Thanks so very much!
Deborah
|
3883 | From: jaredjma@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jared J. Martin)
Subject: Mother Board for sale
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Lines: 16
FOR SALE:
486 DX/33 Motherboard for sale. Excellent condition...less than
one year old. 64K cache, expandable to 256K. RAM expandable to 32MB.
AMI BIOS. Need to sell...upgrading.
Asking: $600.00 (neg.)
CONTACT: Jared Martin at 49-54566 or
email at jaredjma@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
|
3884 | From: dpage@ra.csc.ti.com (Doug Page)
Subject: Re: Sr-71 in propoganda films?
Nntp-Posting-Host: ra
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: sci
Lines: 28
In article <1993Apr5.220610.1532@sequent.com>, bigfoot@sequent.com (Gregory Smith) writes:
|> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
|>
|> >In <1phv98$jbk@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
|>
|>
|> >>THe SR-71 stopped being a real secret by the mid 70's.
|> >>I had a friend in high school who had a poster with it's picture.
|>
|> >It was known well before that. I built a model of it sometime in the
|> >mid 60's, billed as YF-12A/SR-71. The model was based on YF-12A specs
|> >and had a big radar in the nose and 8 AAMs in closed bays on the
|> >underside of the fuselage. The description, even then, read "speeds
|> >in excess of Mach 3 at altitudes exceeding 80,000 feet."
|>
|> L.B.J. publically announced the existance of the Blackbird program
|> in 1964.
He's also the one who dubbed it the SR-71 - it was the RS-71 until LBJ
mippselled (sic) it.
FWIW,
Doug Page
*** The opinions are mine (maybe), and don't necessarily represent those ***
*** of my employer. ***
|
3885 | From: bcash@crchh410.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Brian Cash)
Subject: Re: some thoughts.
Nntp-Posting-Host: crchh410
Organization: BNR, Inc.
Lines: 4
I'm sold! Where do I sign up?
Brian /-|-\ The next book: "Charles Manson: Lord, Lunatic, or Liar"
|
3886 | From: lxrosser@cco.caltech.edu (Alex Rosser)
Subject: Re: What is " Volvo " ?
Article-I.D.: gap.1pl86tINNfv7
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 27
NNTP-Posting-Host: blacker.caltech.edu
wolfson@regatta.sps.mot.com (Stephen Wolfson) writes:
>In article <1993Mar31.193406.29625@ugle.unit.no> oep@colargol.edb.tih.no
>(oep) writes:
>> which turns into a teenagers car when it gets old. The average
>lifelength of
>> a Volvo in Norway is 18 years, and in Sweden 20 years)
>Of course someone pointed out when Saab or Volvo was running their
>At least 10 years ads, that the average milage was significantly
>less than than the US average.
That my be, but every Volvo I've ever owned has lasted far longer than most
other cars.....
1981 Volvo 245....125,000 Miles, still on the road.
1983 Volvo 242....195,000 Miles, still on the road.
1984 Volvo 244....175,000 Miles, still on the road.
And I'll admit, the dealer repair cost is high. But with some mechanical
aptitude of your own, and finding a good indi mechanic, you can avoid most
breakdowns, and make the rest cheap(The sum total of the repairs on the car with
195,000 miles has been 2 mufflers and a radiator. Whoa. Bad repair record).
And all of these cars are driven fairly hard. None of them are at the head of
a line of cars going 30 MPH....the first two spend a lot of their operating
life with the speedometer pegged...and the only reason the 84 doesn't is it has
a 120 MPH speedo...
What I want to know is....have all you people who hate Volvos been traumatized
by someone in a 745 Turbo wagon blowing you away on the road, or what?
|
3887 | From: aruit@idca.tds.philips.nl (Anton de Ruiter)
Subject: ??? TOP-30 WINDOWS applications ???
Organization: Digital Equipment Enterprise bv, Apeldoorn, The Netherlands.
Lines: 36
Hello everybody,
I am searching for (business) information of Windows application, to create a
TOP-30 of most used WordProcessors, Spreadsheets, Drawing programs, Schedulers
and Fax programs, etc..
Please mail me all your information or references. I will summaries the
results on this media.
Thank you in advance,
Anton de Ruiter.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| _ __ |Digital Equipment Corporation |
| /_| __ /_ _ __ __/_ /__) ./_ _ _|WorkGroup Products (WGP) |
|/ |/ /(_ (_)/ / (_/(-' / \ (_//(_ (-'/ |OBjectWorks (OBW) |
| |Ing. Anton de Ruiter MBA |
| |Software Product Manager |
| __ |Post Office Box 245 |
| | /_ _ /_ / _'_ _ _ |7300 AE Apeldoorn, The Netherlands|
| |/|/(_)/ /\ (__// (_)(_//_) |Oude Apeldoornseweg 41-45 |
| / |7333 NR Apeldoorn, The Netherlands|
| __ |-----------------------------------|
| /__)_ _ __/ _ /_ _ |Mail : HLDE01::RUITER_A |
| / / (_)(_/(_/(_ (_ _\ |DTN : 829-4359 |
| |Location: APD/F1-A22 |
| |-----------------------------------|
| __ _ |Internet: aruit@idca.tds.philips.nl|
| / )/_) ._ _ /_ | /_ _ /_ _ |UUCP : ..!mcsun!philapd!aruit |
| (__//__)/(-'(_ (_ |/|/(_)/ /\ _\ |Phone : 31 55 434359 (Business)|
| _/ |Phone : 31 5486 18199 (Private) |
| |Fax : 31 55 432199 |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|
3888 | From: uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu!gila005 (Stephen Holland)
Subject: Re: diet for Crohn's (IBD)
Organization: Gastroenterology - Univ. of Alabama
Lines: 54
In article <1993Apr23.211108.26887@midway.uchicago.edu>,
bmdelane@quads.uchicago.edu (brian manning delaney) wrote:
>
> One thing that I haven't seen in this thread is a discussion of the
> relation between IBD inflammation and the profile of ingested fatty
> acids (FAs).
>
> I was diagnosed last May w/Crohn's of the terminal ileum. When I got
> out of the hospital I read up on it a bit, and came across several
> studies investigating the role of EPA (an essentially FA) in reducing
> inflammation. The evidence was mixed. [Many of these studies are
> discussed in "Inflammatory Bowel Disease," MacDermott, Stenson. 1992.]
>
> But if I recall correctly, there were some methodological bones to be
> picked with the studies (both the ones w/pos. and w/neg. results). In
> the studies patients were given EPA (a few grams/day for most of the
> studies), but, if I recall correctly, there was no restriction of the
> _other_ FAs that the patients could consume. From the informed
> layperson's perspective, this seems mistaken. If lots of n-6 FAs are
> consumed along with the EPA, then the ratio of "bad" prostanoid
> products to "good" prostanoid products could still be fairly "bad."
> Isn't this ratio the issue?
>
> What's the view of the gastro. community on EPA these days? EPA
> supplements, along with a fairly severe restriction of other FAs
> appear to have helped me significantly (though it could just be the
> low absolute amount of fat I eat -- 8-10% calories).
>
> -Brian <bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu>
As you note, the research is mixed, so there is no consensus on the
role of fatty acids in Ulcerative colitis. There is a role for short
chain fatty acids in patients with colostomies and rectal pouches
that are inflammed (Short is butyrate and shorter). There may be a role
for treatment of UC with Short chain fatty acids, and I am looking
forward to the upcoming AGA meeting in Boston to see what people are
doing.
You raise a hypothesis about the studies and restriction of other
fatty acids. You should contact the authors directly about that or
even write a letter to the editor - it is a good point. By the way,
the abbreviation EPA is not in general use, so I do not know what
fatty acid you are speaking about.
And to Brian an U of C --- There is a physician named Stephen Hanauer
there who is a recognized expert in the treatment of IBD. You might
give him a call. He is interested in new combinations of drugs for
the treatment of IBD. If you call please say hello to him from me,
I was looking at U of C for a position, and perhaps still am. And
be sure to look into joining the CCFA.
Best of Luck.
Steve Holland
|
3889 | From: Donald Mackie <Donald_Mackie@med.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: quality control in medicine
Organization: UM Anesthesiology
Lines: 19
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.214.86.38
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXDate: Mon, 19 Apr 93 20:19:29 GMT
In article <9307@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Kenneth Gilbert,
kxgst1+@pitt.edu writes:
>situation. QA activities are a routine part of every hospital's
>administrative function and are required by accreditation agencies.
There
>are even entire publications devoted to QA issues.
Indeed. I spend about 60% of my time dealing with quality stuff. It
is a hot number.
Two journals worth looking at are:-
Quality Review Bulletin. Pub:Joint Commission on Accreditation of
Healthcare Organizations, one Renaissance boulevard, Oakbrook
Terrace, IL 60181
Quality in Health Care. BMJ Publishing Group, Box No. 560B,
Kennebunkport, ME 04046
Don Mackie - his opinions
UM Anesthesiology will disavow
|
3890 | From: omar@godzilla.osf.org (Mark Marino)
Subject: WANTED: Playmation Info
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Lines: 21
Hi Folks,
Does anyone have a copy of Playmation they'd be willing to sell me. I'd
love to try it out, but not for the retail $$$. If you have moved onto
something bigger (3DS) or better (Imagine), I'd love to buy your table scraps.
If noone is selling, can anyone recommend a place to buy Playmation
mail-order for cheap?
Thanks in advance,
Mark
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| |
| Mark Marino | omar@osf.org | uunet!osf!omar |
| Open Software Foundation | 11 Cambridge Center | Cambridge, MA 02142 |
|_____________________________________________________________________________|
|
3891 | From: dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Subject: Re: Pro-abortion feminist leader endorses trashing of free speech rights
Organization: NCSU
Lines: 71
In article <C5MMEp.19n@panix.com>
gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
>dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>> 51 Arrested for Defying Judge's Order at Abortion Protest Rally
>> The Miami Herald, April 11, 1993
>>
>> Circuit Judge Robert McGregor's order prohibits anti-abortion pickets
>> within 36 feet of the property line of Aware Woman Center for Choice.
>> Even across the street, they may not display pictures of dead fetuses
>> or sing or chant loud enough to be heard by patients inside the clinic.
> Several years ago, Justice William O. Douglas, who was
> about as libertarian as you can get about free-speech
> and similar issues, wrote a majority opinion in which
> the Supreme Court turned down an appeal by a group of
> people who had been prohibited from demonstrating in
> front of their landlord's home.
Do you have a cite for the case? You don't give enough
information to be able to compare the two situations.
If the demonstrators had been blaring loud rock music
into the landlord's home all day and night, then I could
see how the opinion would be justified. But this court
order had prohibited abortion protesters from displaying
pictures of dead fetuses, which doesn't disrupt the privacy
of anyone inside the clinic.
> He pointed out that
> people have a right to be free _from_ speech,
Perhaps in the privacy of their homes, but not on public
property. Did the Korean grocery store owner in New York
city have a right to be free from the speech of the protesters
outside his store? Patrons inside the store could hear the
protesters asking them to re-consider shopping there -- how
is that different from the abortion protesters asking women
to re-consider getting an abortion at a clinic?
> Harassment goes beyond
> expression to direct attack on particular persons,
> in this case the workers and clients at a clinic.
> Its purpose is clearly not to convey information or
> express an opinion, but to intimidate and do harm to
> other others.
Even if the protesters' speech could be considered
"harassment" (which it is not), hate speech laws have
generally been struck down by the courts. I don't see
how the words ``don't kill your baby'' or ``abortion is
murder'' could be considered harassment.
> Anti-abortionists have lost the battle for public
> opinion, and the more psychopathic among them have
> turned to harassment, arson, bombing and murder to
> carry on their war. There is no reason not to
> restrain them to protect the ordinary civil rights
> of everyone else.
Some of the protesters were arrested for simply praying
quietly on a public sidewalk. Yeah, I could see how
that might be equivalent to "bombing" and "murder".
Uh huh. Let us know when you get a grip on reality.
> )*( Gordon Fitch )*( gcf@panix.com )*(
>( 1238 Blg. Grn. Sta., NY NY 10274 * 718.273.5556 )
Doug Holtsinger
|
3892 | From: richard@amc.com (Richard Wernick)
Subject: Re: Ulf and all...
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA
Lines: 20
You should be ashamed to call yourself an Ulf Samuelson fan. Anybody who plays
the way he does, does not belong in the NHL. There have been cheap shot artists
through the history of the game, but a lot of them have been talanted players.
Bobby Clarke, Kenny Linsemen, Pie McKenzie, Chris Chelios etc.. but nobody has been
out right as dirty a cheapshot coward as Ulf. Violence in hockey has got to be curbed
and players like (Should have been a Women) Samuelson don't belong. When players
like Ulf, who's main purpose is to injure the better players in the league is allowed
to continue, and the league won't stop it, the players should. A Christian Pro 1000
aluminum stick directed at his ugly head should do the trick nicely. If the Bruins get
a chance to meet Pittsburgh in the near future, you can bet Neely will have his day.
The sight of watching Ulf turtle up like the coward he is, is worth almost as much as a
Stanely Cup. This wimp of a player almost ruined the career of one the best right wingers
in the game. If you are to remove Ulf Samuelson from the lineup, the Penguins would not
even notice he's gone. He's an eyesore on the game of hockey.
Rich
|
3893 | From: Gia Kiria <gkiria@kiria.kheta.georgia.su>
Subject: help
Reply-To: gkiria@kiria.kheta.georgia.su
Organization: Gia Kiria
Keywords: information echo cardio dopler
Lines: 9
HELP!
Maybe anybody know names of conferences in
Please help Me find any information for next keywords:
echocardiography and cardiology+dopler
I hawe no informatins on this subjects 2 years becouse i leave in
Tbilisy.
sorry for my bad english!
MY adress: irina@kiria.kheta.georgia.su
|
3894 | From: rwert@well.sf.ca.us (Bob Wert)
Subject: Need advice for riding with someone on pillion
Summary: Advice wanted for when I take someone on the back of the moto.
Keywords: advice, pillion, help!
Nntp-Posting-Host: well.sf.ca.us
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Lines: 22
I need some advice on having someone ride pillion with me on my 750 Ninja.
This will be the the first time I've taken anyone for an extended ride
(read: farther than around the block :-). We'll be riding some twisty,
fairly bumpy roads (the Mines Road-Mt.Hamilton Loop for you SF Bay Areans).
This person is <100 lbs. and fairly small, so I don't see weight as too much
of a problem, but what sort of of advice should I give her before we go?
I want her to hold onto me :-) rather than the grab rail out back, and
I've heard that she should look over my shoulder in the direction we're
turning so she leans *with* me, but what else? Are there traditional
signals for SLOW DOWN!! or GO FASTER!! or I HAFTA GO PEE!! etc.???
I really want this to be a positive experience for us both, mainly so that
she'll want to go with me again, so any help will be appreciated...
Thanks,
-Bob-
--
Bob Wert rmw@genie.gene.com rwert@well.sf.ca.us
DoD#0302 AMA#510680 '90 Ninja 750R '89 Mustang 5.0LX
...Seven turns on the highway, Seven rivers to cross,
Sometimes you feel like you can fly away, Sometimes you get lost...
|
3895 | From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Subject: Re: Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW]
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
Lines: 14
In article <1qi3l5$jkj@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>I hope an Islamic Bank is something other than BCCI, which
>ripped off so many small depositors among the Muslim
>community in the Uk and elsewhere.
>jon.
Grow up, childish propagandist.
Gregg
|
3896 | From: will@futon.webo.dg.com (Will Taber)
Subject: Re: Being right about messiahs
Lines: 41
In article 2262@geneva.rutgers.edu, Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca (Desiree Bradley) writes:
> I must have missed the postings about Waco, David Koresh, and the Second
> Coming. How does one tell if a Second Coming is the real thing, unless the
> person claiming to be IT is obviously insane?
One rule of thumb is that if a person is making the claim, they are
wrong. I was just reading John 14 this morning (I think that is the
right chapter, anyway it is close and I don't have a Bible at work to
check with.) and in it Jesus is talking to his disciples about his
impending death and he says that he will be going away and then later
he will be with them. He said something along the lines of "I will
be in you and you will be in me." (Again I cannot provide the exact
quote or citation.) Anyway, my understanding of this is that
the Second Coming will not be an outward event. It is an inward
event, Christ will come to live in our hearts and we will live in him.
If you look for a person you will be deceived.
It seems to me that the Jews had been looking for a Messiah that would
be a political or military leader and so didn't recognize Jesus when
he came. Jesus tried to show that his Kingdom was not of this earth.
A lot of what I have seen written about the Second Coming seems to
based on an expectation of Christ coming back and finally taking over
the world and running it the way it should be. It sounds a lot like
what the Jews were looking for. The First Coming wasn't like that and
I see no reason for the Second Coming to be like that either.
Oh and by the way, I don't expect it to happen once. There is no one
Second Coming, there are a lot of little ones. Every time Christ
comes into someones heart, Christ has come again.
Peace,
Will.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| William Taber | Will_Taber@dg.com | Any opinions expressed |
| Data General Corp. | will@futon.webo.dg.com | are mine alone and may |
| Westboro, Mass. 01580 | | change without notice. |
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
| When all your dreams are laid to rest, you can get what's second best, |
| But it's hard to get enough. David Wilcox |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
3897 | From: weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Dave Weaver)
Subject: Some questions from a new Christian
Lines: 18
In a previous article, 18669@bach.udel.edu (Steven R Hoskins) writes:
>
> One of my questions I would
> like to ask is - Can anyone recommend a good reading list of theological
> works intended for a lay person?
>
I would recommend "Essential Truthes of the Christian Faith" by RC Sproul.
It is copywrited 1992 from Tyndale House Publishers. Sproul offers concise
explanations, in simple language, of around 100 different Christian
doctrines, grouped by subject. I think it would be particularly good for
newer Christians (and older Christians suffering spiritual malnutrition),
as it gives a Biblically sound basic treatment of the issues, avoiding
long in-depth analysis that can wait until after you know the basics.
---
Dave Weaver | "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to
weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com| gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot (1949)
|
3898 | From: raman@translab.its.uci.edu (Balaji V. Ramanathan)
Subject: Re: Plymouth Sundance/Dodge Shadow experiences?
Nntp-Posting-Host: translab.its.uci.edu
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Lines: 23
Distribution: usa
In article <1qofeaINNn7h@shelley.u.washington.edu> gaia@carson.u.washington.edu (I/We are Gaia) writes:
>just stopped putting money into it. I must have put at least $5000-$7000
>worth of repairs over it's lifetime. I am sorry but Lee Iacocca can bite
>me. Bullshit, whoever backs em best, is just afraid the stupid things area
The part about spending $5000-7000 on repairs reminds me
of an article I read in a magazine comparing the 5 year ownership costs
of a Toyota Camry and a Ford Taurus or something like that. The result,
which they announced with great flourish was that it cost the same at the
end of the period. That was their argument to prove that you don't go
wrong buying the Ford Taurus over the Camry.
Now, if I remember correctly, the Camry costs about $4000 or so more
in initial costs. Essentially, it means that you spend about $4000 extra
on repairs on the Taurus. That is ridiculous. Every time your car
needs repairs, it is extra hassles, loss of time and a dozen other things.
I would much rather spend $5000 more in initial costs than spend $4000 more
in repair costs.
--
----------------->8 Cut here for Signature! 8<---------------------
Balaji Ramanathan, |
Institute of Transportation Studies, | I don't believe in luck!
University of California, Irvine. | I RELY on it!!
|
3899 | Subject: apology (was Re: Did US drive on the left?)
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu
Lines: 54
In a previous article, dh3q+@andrew.cmu.edu ("Daniel U. Holbrook") says:
>>i'm guessing, but i believe in the twenties we probably drove mostly down
>>cattle trails and in wagon ruts. I am fairly sure that placement of the
>>steering wheel was pretty much arbitrary to the company at that time.....
>
>By the 1920s, there was a very active "good roads" movement, which had
>its origins actually in the 1890s during the bicycle craze, picked up
>steam in the teens (witness the Linclon Highway Association, 1912 or so,
>and the US highway support act (real name: something different) in 1916
>that first pledged federal aid to states and counties to build decent
>roads. Also, the experience of widespread use of trucks for domestic
>transport during WW 1 convinced the government that good raods were
>crucial to our national defense. Anyway, by the 20s there were plenty
>of good roads, at least around urban areas, and they were rapidly
>expanding into the countryside. This was the era, after all, of the
>first auto touring fad, the motel, the auto camp ground, etc. Two good
>books on the subject spring to mind - Warren Belasco "America on the
>Road" (title may not be exact - author is) and another called "The Devil
>Wagon in God's Country" author I forget. Also, any of John Flink's or
>John Bell Rae's auto histories.
i'm sorry, as i have never heard of any of this. Guess they don't think
it's important enough for a classroom, and i was going on what i've seen
in pics.(some movies--real nice scource there, huh?) I just always
recall thinking that GOOD roads of asphalt didn't come around til the
Interstate Hiway Act, or whatever they called it(60's?), and that wood and
cobblestone roads were fairly rare up through the depression, except in
overpopulated places like England and US cities. Obviously netwisdom
says i am wrong.
>As to placement of the steering wheel being arbitrary, by the early
>teens there were virtually no American cars that did not have the wheel
>on the left. In the early days, cars had the wheel on the left, on the
>right, and even in the middle, as well as sometimes having a tiller
>instead of a wheel. This was standardized fairly early on, though I
>don't know why.
i knew it was almost always done, but i knew of no reason that it might not
be done the other way by DeSoto for their car. Seems like they had some
other deviations from the norm too, at times :-)
>Dan
>dh3q@andrew.cmu.edu
>Carnegie Mellon University
>Applied History
>
>"World history strides on from catastrophe to catastrophe, whether we
>can comprehend and prove it or not."
> Oswald Spengler
thanx for corrrecting me, and again, i aplogize for harebraned post.
DREW
|
Subsets and Splits
No community queries yet
The top public SQL queries from the community will appear here once available.