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4100 | From: rj@ri.cadre.com (Rob deFriesse)
Subject: Can DES code be shipped to Canada?
Article-I.D.: fripp.1993Apr22.125402.27561
Reply-To: rj@ri.cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc.
Lines: 13
Nntp-Posting-Host: 192.9.200.19
Someone in Canada asked me to send him some public domain DES file
encryption code I have. Is it legal for me to send it?
Thanx.
--
Eschew Obfuscation
Rob deFriesse Mail: rj@ri.cadre.com
Cadre Technologies Inc. Phone: (401) 351-5950
222 Richmond St. Fax: (401) 351-7380
Providence, RI 02903
I don't speak for my employer.
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4101 | From: jaa12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (John A Absood)
Subject: Re: Freedom In U.S.A.
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: jaa12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (John A Absood)
Organization: Columbia University
Lines: 14
Mr. Freeman:
Please find something more constructive to do with your time rather
than engaging in fantasy..... Not that I have a particular affinty
to Arafat or anything.
John
"Marlow ceased, and sat apart, indistinct and silent, in the pose of a
meditating Buddha. Nobody moved for a time...The offing was barred by
a black bank of clouds, and the tranquil waterway leading to the utter-
most ends of the earth flowed sombre under an overcast sky - seemed to
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4102 | From: ccox@math.nwu.edu (Christopher L. Cox)
Subject: Re: Yogi-isms
Article-I.D.: news.1993Apr6.213008.1009
Organization: Dept of Math, Northwestern Univ
Lines: 13
Nntp-Posting-Host: poincare.math.nwu.edu
>
> Here's one I remember: (sort of)
> Yogi's asleep in a hotel room late at night and gets a call from someone.
> After he answers the phone the person at the other end asks if he woke Yogi
> up. Yogi answered, "No, the phone did."
>
> Kevin
One of my favorites came back in the seventies when two
streakers interupted a game Yogi was at, dashing across the
field unclad. Later someone who wasn't present asked Yogi
if they were men or women. He replied, "I couldn't tell,
they had bags over their heads."
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4103 | From: especkma@reed.edu (Erik. A Speckman)
Subject: Re: PDS vs. Nubus (was Re: LC III NuBus Capable?)
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Apr19.184256.8664
Distribution: usa
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Lines: 26
In article <1qt3vd$802@morrow.stanford.edu> HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky) writes:
>Second Wave makes NuBus card cages that work on the PDS slots of at
>least three Macs: the SE/30, IIsi and Centris 610. They have not, to
>my knowledge, announced such a device for the LCII, but they could
>make one, technologically.
>
>The PDS card that goes to the cage simply needs the NuBus controller
>circuitry present on NuBus Macs.
>
>Why, though, does anyone care about this? dgr has a three-PDS
>adapter for the LC/LCII. They will soon have one for the LCIII. PDS
>is better than NuBus for most people in most applications. Granted,
>there are more NuBus cards. But, most applications that require a
>NuBus card (like full-motion video capture) shouldn't be done on an
>LC/LCII/LCIII anyway.
>
>Mark
NuBus is a much more robust system for system for installing multiple
cards without configuration problems. I know that when I was checking
into expasion options for an SI there were a number of PDS video cards
that would not work with certian Dual slot cache adapters.
_Erik Speckman
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4104 | From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: Israel's Expansion II
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Lines: 28
In article <93111.225707PP3903A@auvm.american.edu> Paul H. Pimentel <PP3903A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>What gives Isreal the right to keep Jeruseleum? It is the home of the muslim a
>s well as jewish religion, among others.
What gives the US the right to keep New York? It is the home of the
United Nations as well as being home to a myriad of ethnic groups.
(Actually, NYC is more comparable to the Gaza Strip; the controlling
authority would probably be pleased as punch to unload it on someone
else -- but no-one seems to want it! :-)
>Heck, nobody ever mentions what Yitzak Shamir did forty or fifty
>years ago which is terrorize westerners much in the way Abdul Nidal
>does today. Seems Isrealis are nowhere above Arabs, so therefore
>they have a right to Jerusaleum as much as Isreal does.
A-historical bullshit. Shamir fought the British (who, incidentally,
shipped whole shiploads of Jews back to the Nazis for extermination
and hung those Jewish fighters that they captured and didn't want to
deal with anymore). Shamir did not attack civilians on airliners,
cruise ships, in airports, sports events, movie theaters, markets,
on buses and children in schoolyards. Your comparison to a Master
Murderer like Abu Nidal is BLIND!
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
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4105 | From: km@ky3b.pgh.pa.us (Ken Mitchum)
Subject: Re: How about a crash program in basic immunological research?
Organization: KY3B - Vax Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 26
In article <93099.141148C09630GK@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, C09630GK@WUVMD (Gary Kronk) writes:
|> I have been contemplating this idea for some time as well. I am not a
|> doctor, but my wife is a nurse and I know a lot of doctors and nurses.
|> The point here being that doctors and nurses do not seem to get sick
|> nearly as much as people outside the medical profession.
This is a lovely area for anecdotes, but I am sure you are on to something.
As a physician, I almost never get sick: usually, when something horrendous
is going around, I either don't get it at all or get a very mild case.
When I do get really sick, it is always something unusual.
This was not the situation when I was in medical school, particularly on
pediatrics. I never had younger siblings myself, and when I went on the
pediatric wards I suddenly found myself confronting all sorts of infectious
challenges that my body was not ready for. Pediatrics for me was three solid
months of illness, and I had a temp of 104 when I took the final exam!
I think what happens is that during training, and beyond, we are constantly
exposed to new things, and we have the usual reactions to them, so that later
on, when challenged with something, it is more likely a re-exposure for us,
so we deal with it well and get a mild illness. I don't think it is that
the immune system is hyped up in any way. Also, don't forget that the
hospital flora is very different from the home, and we carry a lot of that
around.
-km
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4106 | From: anasaz!karl@anasazi.com (Karl Dussik)
Subject: Re: Is "Christian" a dirty word?
Organization: Anasazi Inc Phx Az USA
Lines: 73
In article <Mar.25.03.53.08.1993.24855@athos.rutgers.edu> @usceast.cs.scarolina.edu:moss@cs.scarolina.edu (James Moss) writes:
>I was brought up christian, but I am not christian any longer.
>I also have a bad taste in my mouth over christianity. I (in
>my own faith) accept and live my life by many if not most of the
>teachings of christ, but I cannot let myself be called a christian,
>beacuse to me too many things are done on the name of christianity,
>that I can not be associated with.
A question for you - can you give me the name of an organization or a
philosophy or a political movement, etc., which has never had anything
evil done in its name? You're missing a central teaching of Christianity -
man is inherently sinful. We are saved through faith by grace. Knowing
that, believing that, does not make us without sin. Furthermore, not all
who consider themselves "christians" are (even those who manage to head
their own "churches"). "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will
enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who
is in heaven." - Matt. 7:21.
>I also have a problem with the inconsistancies in the Bible, and
>how it seems to me that too many people have edited the original
>documents to fit their own world views, thereby leaving the Bible
>an unbelievable source.
Again, what historical documents do you trust? Do you think Hannibal
crossed the Alps? How do you know? How do you know for sure? What
historical documents have stood the scrutiny and the attempts to dis-
credit it as well as the Bible has?
>I don't have dislike of christians (except for a few who won't
>quit witnessing to me, no matter how many times I tell them to stop),
>but the christian faith/organized religion will never (as far as i can
>see at the moment) get my support.
Well, it's really a shame you feel this way. No one can browbeat you
into believing, and those who try will probably only succeed in driving
you further away. You need to ask yourself some difficult questions:
1) is there an afterlife, and if so, does man require salvation to attain
it. If the answer is yes, the next question is 2) how does man attain this
salvation - can he do it on his own as the eastern religions and certain
modern offshoots like the "new age movement" teach or does he require God's
help? 3) If the latter, in what form does - indeed, in what form can such
help come? Needless to say, this discussion could take a lifetime, and for
some people it did comprise their life's writings, so I am hardly in a
position to offer the answers here - merely pointers to what to ask. Few,
of us manage to have an unshaken faith our entire lives (certainly not me).
The spritual life is a difficult journey (if you've never read "A Pilgrim's
Progress," I highly recommend this greatest allegory of the english language).
>Peace and Love
>In God(ess)'s name
>James Moss
Now I see by your close that one possible source of trouble for you may be a
conflict between your politcal beliefs and your religious upbringing. You
wrote that "I (in my own faith) accept and live my life by many if not most
of the teachings of christ". Well, Christ referred to God as "My Father",
not "My Mother", and while the "maleness" of God is not the same as the
maleness of those of us humans who possess a Y chromosome, it does not
honor God to refer to Him as female purely to be trendy, non-discriminatory,
or politically correct. This in no way disparages women (nor is it my intent
to do so by my use of the male pronoun to refer to both men and women -
english just does not have a decent neuter set of pronouns). After all, God
chose a woman as his only human partner in bringing Christ into the human
population.
Well, I'm not about to launch into a detailed discussion of
the role of women in Christianity at 1am with only 6 hours of sleep in the
last 63, and for that reason I also apologize for any shortcomings in this
article. I just happened across yours and felt moved to reply. I hope I
may have given you, and anyone else who finds himself in a similar frame of
mind, something to contemplate.
Karl Dussik
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4107 | From: mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok)
Subject: NHL Playoff Stats & Scores
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Lines: 2
For updated playoff updates (scores, stats, summaries)
e-mail me. (mmilitzo@skidmore.edu) with the subject STATS.
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4108 | From: laird@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Subject: WANTED: HP ScanJet (and ADF)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Lines: 10
I need some used scanners. I'm limiting my selection to HP models
with document feeders. I think this means the ScanJet Plus and the
ScanJet IIc.
so...if you have one of these and want to sell it, please tell me.
--kyler
P.S. I need only one with a Mac interface; the others are for IBM-PC
compatibles.
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4109 | From: clump@acaps.cs.mcgill.ca (Clark VERBRUGGE)
Subject: Re: BGI Drivers for SVGA
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 29
Dominic Lai (cs_cylai@cs.ust.hk) wrote:
: Simon Crowe (scrowe@hemel.bull.co.uk) wrote:
: 8~> I require BGI drivers for Super VGA Displays and Super XVGA Displays. Does
: 8~> anyone know where I could obtain the relevant drivers ? (FTP sites ??)
: I would like to know too!
: Regards,
: Dominic
garbo.uwasa.fi (or one of its many mirrors) has a file
called "svgabg40" in the programming subdirectory.
These are svga bgi drivers for a variety of cards.
[from the README]:
"Card types supported: (SuperVGA drivers)
Ahead, ATI, Chips & Tech, Everex, Genoa, Paradise, Oak, Trident (both 8800
and 8900, 9000), Tseng (both 3000 and 4000 chipsets) and Video7.
These drivers will also work on video cards with VESA capability.
The tweaked drivers will work on any register-compatible VGA card."
enjoy,
Clark Verbrugge
clump@cs.mcgill.ca
--
HONK HONK BLAT WAK WAK WAK WAK WAK UNGOW!
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4110 | From: jsc52962@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey S. Curtis)
Subject: Re: What is Zero dB????
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 19
moffatt@bnr.ca (John Thomson) writes:
}Out of what hat did you pull this one? dB is a ratio not an RBOC!
} [...]
}Sorry. The unit for current is the AMPERE which is the name of a french-man
}named AMPERE who studied electrical current. The term AMP is just an abbreviation
}of it. The company AMP came after the AMPERE unit was already in use.
} [...]
}I don't know about this one, but it doesn't sound right.
} [...]
}Well you got one thing right!
Hello? John? Oh, nevermind...
Jeff
--
Jeffrey S. Curtis sidewinder@uiuc.edu | "Resplendent in full regalia, they
The Power of 37 free2207 at uiucvmd | revel in their role as self-appointed
Sony - Phase Linear - Sanyo - Sennet | critics of the establishment..."
Jensen - Polk - StreetWires - Proton | -- INXS _Welcome to Wherever You Are_
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4111 | From: stephens@geod.emr.ca (Dave Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Space Advertising (2 of 2)
Nntp-Posting-Host: ngis.geod.emr.ca
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Lines: 15
As for SF and advertising in space. There is a romantic episode
in Mead's "The Big Ball of Wax" where the lovers are watching
the constellation Pepsi Cola rising over the horizon and noting
the some 'stars' had slipped cause the Teamsters were on strike.
This was the inspiration for my article on orbiting a formation
of space mirrors published in Spaceflight in 1986. As the reviews
said: this seems technically feasible, and could be commercially viable
but is it aesthetically desirable? These days the only aesthetics
that count are the ones you can count!
--
Dave Stephenson
Geological Survey of Canada
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Internet: stephens@geod.emr.ca
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4112 | From: mike@hopper.Virginia.EDU (Michael Chapman)
Subject: Re: Compiling help
Organization: ITC/UVA Community Access UNIX/Internet Project
Lines: 15
Here's what I (think) have figured out. All I need to do is install
the R5 disitribution without the Xserver like the sony.cf file defines,
and all the new libraries, utils, etc., will be installed and my old
server from r4 will still work. This will allow me to run Xview 3.0,
and have X11r5 up and running. Does the server interface remain the
same with all changes made only to the libs?
Another question: Is it likely that since Sun is dropping OW support
that the desktop utils (like the file manager) will be made public?
It would be nice if companies would make old code public for the
benefit of those of us with smaller budgets. :)
--
mike@hopper.acs.virginia.edu
"I will NOT raise taxes on the middle class." -Unknown
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4113 | From: saross01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Stacey A. Ross)
Subject: Re: Hockey and the Hispanic community
Nntp-Posting-Host: starbase.spd.louisville.edu
Organization: University of Louisville
Lines: 26
In <C5I2s2.3Bt@odin.corp.sgi.com> rickc@wrigley.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares) writes:
>You'll have a hard time selling any sport to a community that
>can't play it on account of availability or financial reasons.
>Hockey is pretty much a sport for the white and well off.
What?! White, yes. Well off, definitely not. Hockey season ticket owners have
the lowest average income of any of the four major North American sports.
And think of where the majority of hockey players come from. From a farm out
in Boondock, Saskatchewan or Weedville, Alberta.
>When was the last time you saw a hockey league in the inner city.
>The insurance alone is a big enough barrier.
The inner city isn't the only place that is poor.
I think the biggest barrier to hockey in the inner city is... no ICE to play on.
Stace
>--
>+===================================================================+
>| Rick Casares Silicon Graphics |
>| cubfan@wrigley.corp.sgi.com 2011 N. Shoreline Blvd |
>| "Just wait till next year." Mountain View, CA 94039 |
>+===================================================================+
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4114 | From: Rick Miller - former spook <rick@ee.uwm.edu>
Subject: Alternate *legal* wiretaps.
Organization: Just me.
Lines: 43
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33
Summary: Nothing spooky, it's an Executive Order.
tuinstra@signal.ece.clarkson.edu.soe writes:
[...]
> It would be a strong incentive, as Vesselin points out, for more
>police agencies to "go rogue" and try to get keys through more efficient
>(but less Constitutional) means. Notice what the release said:
>
> Q: Suppose a law enforcement agency is conducting a wiretap on
> a drug smuggling ring and intercepts a conversation
> encrypted using the device. What would they have to do to
> decipher the message?
>
> A: They would have to obtain legal authorization, normally a
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> court order, to do the wiretap in the first place.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>The clear implication is that there are "legal" authorizations other
>than a court order. Just how leaky are these? (And who
>knows what's in those 7 pages that authorized the NSA?). There
[...]
I was a cryptologic tech in the US Navy (CTRSN, nothing big). All 'spooks'
in the Navy are required to know the "gist" of "USSID 18", the Navy-way of
naming a particular Presidential "Executive Order". It outlines what spooks
can and can't do with respect to the privacy of US nationals.
The following information is (of course) UNCLASSIFIED.
The whole issue hangs about what you mean by "wiretap". If the signal can
be detected by "non-intrusive" means (like radio listening), then it may be
recorded and it may be "analyzed". "Analyzed" means that it may be either
deciphered and/or radio-location may be used to locate the transmitter.
The catch is this: Any and all record of the signal and its derivatives
may only be kept for a maximum of 90 days, after which they are destroyed
unless permission is obtained from the US Attorney General to keep them.
Didn't you ever wonder how Coast Guard cutters *find* those drug-runners
in all those tens of thousands of square miles of sea, even in the dark?!?
Rick Miller <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <ricxjo@discus.mil.wi.us> Ricxjo Muelisto
Send a postcard, get one back! | Enposxtigu bildkarton kaj vi ricevos alion!
RICK MILLER // 16203 WOODS // MUSKEGO, WIS. 53150 // USA
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4115 | From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Subject: Re: HBP? BB? BIG-CAT?
Distribution: na
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego
Lines: 15
Nntp-Posting-Host: mbongo.ucsd.edu
In article <C5r7tv.36s@odin.corp.sgi.com>, kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
I don't
|> blame players like Galarraga, Dawson and McGee when they swing at
|> a strike and put the ball in play.
Well, no problem! But I get pretty annoyed when they swing at non-strikes
and make outs. Especially ball four on the 3-2 counts...
Dave
--
Dave DeMers demers@cs.ucsd.edu
Computer Science & Engineering 0114 demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet
UC San Diego ...!ucsd!cs!demers
La Jolla, CA 92093-0114 (619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029
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4116 | From: rogerw@world.std.com (Roger A Williams)
Subject: Re: 68HC16 public domain software?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 1
Doesn't Motorola AMCU have something on the BBS yet? (512-891-3733)
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4117 | From: hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: fillibuster
Lines: 43
Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: DESYDeutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
In article <C5Dsyr.325@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
|>|In article <C5BupH.FCp@dscomsa.desy.de>
|>|hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:
|>
|>|>The filibuster does not make sense because the senate is elected as a last
|>|>gasp assembly. It is designed to be the repository of doddery old men with
|>|>no power.
|>
|>| Phill, I don't know which Senate you're discussing, but it ain't
|>|ours.
|>
|>Phill probably thinks that the US senate is supposed to be the equivalent
|>to the UK's House of Lords.
The status of the House of Lords today is quite different to its status
in 1789.
|>Which just goes to show that where the US is concerned Phill still has no
|>idea what he is talking about.
Maddison and Hamilton were both studying existing forms of government for
several years before they wrote the federalist papers. That the US system
is based to a considerable degree on the UK model is pretty widely accepted.
At the time there was no other major country with a representative body.
The French plebicite had been suppressed for 140 years and its restoration
eight years later would mark the start of the French revolution.
After the UK system the major influences were the Dutch system and of course
the classical systems. Nobody seriously suggests that Rome or Greece were
models though because the political systems of both countries were acknowleged
disasters. The main lesson learnt from Greece was that unless a federal
state was constructed a war would be inevitable. The Greek democracies were
always fighting amongst themselves which is how Rome managed to invade. Had
the federal consitution been rejected the new Roman empire in the shape of
Britain would quite certainly have reabsorbed much of the colonies in due
course. Moreover the states would have been at each others throats as soon
as the Louisiana purchase situation arose during the Napoleonic period.
Phill Hallam-Baker
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4118 | From: mwtilden@math.uwaterloo.ca (Mark W. Tilden)
Subject: BEAM Robot Olympic Games next Week in Toronto.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Lines: 17
One week to the Robot Olympic games. Fire up the mechanoids for combat
and come on down.
Competitors please note that there has been a slight change; the registration
desk will now be in the forward building of the Science Centre rather than
in the main competing hall. When you arrive, please go to this desk. Those
that have pre-registered by real-mail will find badges waiting.
Is all. See you here.
--
Mark Tilden: _-_-_-__--__--_ /(glitch!) M.F.C.F Hardware Design Lab.
-_-___ | \ /\/ U of Waterloo. Ont. Can, N2L-3G1
|__-_-_-| \/ (519)885-1211 ext. 2454
"MY OPINIONS, YOU HEAR!? MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!"
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4119 | From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Rangers name Keenan coach
Keywords: hockey, men's professional
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: PhDs In The Hall
Lines: 65
clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI) writes in clari.sports.hockey:
> NEW YORK (UPI) -- Mike Keenan, whose NHL coaching history
>has been to wear out his welcome despite an impressive penchant for
>winning, has come to the city that embraces victors above all else.
Well, I could become a fan ... (-;
Seriously, this news coming since Thursday has effectively robbed the
Islanders and the Devils of any airtime on sports talk shows almost
everywhere that I've sampled ... in fact, the playoffs almost don't
exist now. )-; Ranger fans calling in to WFAN or to New York One's
midnight sports talk were in a mix of fury over this season and near-
orgasm over Keenan's hiring. (Summarizing: Keenan is a winner and
will give the Broadway Bums 'da business' in pursuing the next Cup
chase ...)
> The Chicago Blackhawks cut their last tie with Keenan when
>he was forced out as general manager in November. He had given up
>Chicago's coaching duties a year ago and his thirst for the power
>of a GM now increases the pressure on beleaguered Rangers GM Neil
>Smith.
This will be an interesting combination to watch ... Keenan has been
paid enough money to put up and shut up and just be a coach, but his
advice on any player moves will be listened to closely. A lot of big
player moves will happen --- remember that Keenan got rid of Denis
Savard. The country club days are over ...
> ``When Keenan left Chicago I couldn't help but think about
>him as our coach,'' Smith said. ``There was an indication he would
>be taken off the market. I feared that and couldn't let that happen.''
If Paramount had given Smith an earlier sign of support and offered
Keenan the big money to put-up-and-shut-up back in January, the
Rangers might not be heading for golf now ...
> Keenan, 43, takes on a demoralized team that offers him a
>chance to fashion yet another of his reclamation projects -- at the
>highest salary ever commanded by an NHL coach. The Rangers -- owned
>by Gulf & Western -- have bestowed upon Keenan an unprecedented $3
>million, four-year deal,
> ``I've known Mike a long time,'' Messier said. ``We've won two
>Canada Cups together. He's been to the finals three times. Maybe we
>miss just one more element to win the Stanley Cup. I don't think he's
>the same person he was 10 years ago or even five years ago. I think he
>has changed and bettered himself with experience.''
One of Keenan's first statements was a reaffirmation that Mark Messier
will be the team's captain.
> The timing of the move gives the Rangers' new coach 2 1-2
>months to prepare for the NHL draft (June 26), and Neil Smith may
>not back off the their trade-happy pattern.
By then, Smith might have some bargains on Keenan's advice ... like
maybe unloading Phil Bourque for Tie Domi ... (-;
gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare
> gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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4120 | From: WKWINKEL@ibm.rz.uni-passau.de
Subject: Re:color or Monochrome?
Organization: University of Passau - Germany
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm.rz.uni-passau.de
Walther,
I'd have a look at the maximum resolution the combination of the video card
and screen would have without flickering. I'd only suggest using the color
screen if it does 800*600 without flickering. If this is not too small for
your tastes at a 14"....
Personally I'd prefer the mono-screen as I always have quite a few windows
open. If you only run one program at a time or rarely switch maybe the
color 'surplus' is worth trading in the smaller size. If you want to
develop programs you will always have to check the colors. I used a
14" mono screen (worst of both worlds) and was surprised how the colors looked
I choose on a color screen.
Regards,
Olaf Winkelhake
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4121 | From: mikea@zorba.gvg.tek.com (Michael P. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Temper tantrums from the 1960's
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
Lines: 11
In article <15413@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>What they broke in the DNC for is still open to serious question.
Some tape archivists suggest what they were after had something to do with
the Kennedy assasination. Let's hear all of the tapes real soon, shall we?
MPA
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4122 | From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
Subject: Re: Selective Placebo
Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA
Lines: 20
Nntp-Posting-Host: drums.reasoning.com
In article <1993Apr17.125545.22457@rose.com> ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth) writes:
>
> OTOH, who are we kidding, the New England Medical Journal in 1984
> ran the heading: "Ninety Percent of Diseases are not Treatable by
> Drugs or Surgery," which has been echoed by several other reports.
> No wonder MDs are not amused with alternative medicine, since
> the 20% magic of the "placebo effect" would award alternative
> practitioners twice the success rate of conventional medicine...
1: "90% of diseases" is not the same thing as "90% of patients".
In a world with one curable disease that strikes 100 people, and nine
incurable diseases which strikes one person each, medical science will cure
91% of the patients and report that 90% of diseases have no therapy.
2: A disease would be counted among the 90% untreatable if nothing better than
a placebo were known. Of course MDs are ethically bound to not knowingly
dispense placebos...
-dk
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4123 | From: luriem@alleg.edu(Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Organization: Allegheny College
In article <1qkkodINN5f5@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> pablo@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
(Pablo A Iglesias) writes:
> In article <15APR93.14691229.0062@lafibm.lafayette.edu>
VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes:
>
> Hank Greenberg would have to be the most famous, because his Jewish
> faith actually affected his play. (missing late season or was it world
> series games because of Yom Kippur)
>
Kofax missed world series game because of The jewish day of repentence.
|
4124 | From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Subject: Re: harrassed at work, could use some prayers
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego
Lines: 63
(Well, I'll email also, but this may apply to other people, so
I'll post also.)
>I've been working at this company for eight years in various
>engineering jobs. I'm female. Yesterday I counted and realized that
>on seven different occasions I've been sexually harrassed at this
>company.
>I dreaded coming back to work today. What if my boss comes in to ask
>me some kind of question...
Your boss should be the person bring these problems to. If he/she
does not seem to take any action, keep going up higher and higher.
Sexual harrassment does not need to be tolerated, and it can be an
enormous emotional support to discuss this with someone and know that
they are trying to do something about it. If you feel you can not
discuss this with your boss, perhaps your company has a personnel
department that can work for you while preserving your privacy. Most
companies will want to deal with this problem because constant anxiety
does seriously affect how effectively employees do their jobs.
It is unclear from your letter if you have done this or not. It is
not inconceivable that management remains ignorant of employee
problems/strife even after eight years (it's a miracle if they do
notice). Perhaps your manager did not bring to the attention of
higher ups? If the company indeed does seem to want to ignore the
entire problem, there may be a state agency willing to fight with
you. (check with a lawyer, a women's resource center, etc to find out)
You may also want to discuss this with your paster, priest, husband,
etc. That is, someone you know will not be judgemental and that is
supportive, comforting, etc. This will bring a lot of healing.
>So I returned at 11:25, only to find that ever single
>person had already left for lunch. They left at 11:15 or so. No one
>could be bothered to call me at the other building, even though my
>number was posted.
This happens to a lot of people. Honest. I believe it may seem
to be due to gross insensitivity because of the feelings you are
going through. People in offices tend to be more insensitive while
working than they normally are (maybe it's the hustle or stress or...)
I've had this happen to me a lot, often because they didn't realize
my car was broken, etc. Then they will come back and wonder why I
didn't want to go (this would tend to make me stop being angry at
being ignored and make me laugh). Once, we went off without our
boss, who was paying for the lunch :-)
>For this
>reason I hope good Mr. Moderator allows me this latest indulgence.
Well, if you can't turn to the computer for support, what would
we do? (signs of the computer age :-)
In closing, please don't let the hateful actions of a single person
harm you. They are doing it because they are still the playground
bully and enjoy seeing the hurt they cause. And you should not
accept the opinions of an imbecile that you are worthless - much
wiser people hold you in great esteem.
--
Darin Johnson
djohnson@ucsd.edu
- Luxury! In MY day, we had to make do with 5 bytes of swap...
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4125 | From: vojak@icebucket.stortek.com (Bill Vojak)
Subject: Letter To David Skaggs
Distribution: usa
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
Lines: 136
Originator: vojak@icebucket.stortek.com
Nntp-Posting-Host: icebucket.stortek.com
Here is a letter I sent to David Skaggs, (Dem, CO). Before anybody says
something, yes the letter is a bit "sharp" in tone. I have been writting
reasonable and polite letters to him for years, and all I get in return
in the HCI party line. Since he already is NRA F rated, I don't think that
upsetting him will harm the cause. Sorry if you disagree, but recent events
in Texas REALLY have me pissed.
-------------------
April 20, 1993
Representative Skaggs,
Recently I wrote to you regarding my outrage over the tactics used by the
Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, (BATF), in Texas. In your response
you stated that "Events in Texas underscore the need for stricter gun control
legislation to keep guns out of the hand of groups such as the Branch Davidians.
My question to you is, "what grounds would you use to deny them access to
firearms?" Best I can tell this statement underscores your apparent total
ignorance of the subject, and highlights your personal bias against firearms.
I say this because there are only two possible paths of "gun control" which you
could have been referencing.
Either:
1) You were talking about their access to semi-automatics firearms. In this
case I should point out that semi-automatic firearms are legal in most areas of
this Country, including Texas and Colorado. In addition the members of the
"cult" have never been convicted of any crimes which would deny them the ability
to purchase these weapons. So under what grounds would you deny them these
guns? Their religion? The fact they they live in a large group alone by
themselves? Because you consider them to be a cult? Maybe I consider your
Church to be a cult!
This line of reasoning by you borders on the concept of "thought crimes." You
and Pat Robertson should really get along.
2) You were referring to the ALLEGED FULLY automatic weapons possessed by the
"cult." Under current US law, FULLY automatic weapons have been covered by
some of the strictest gun control laws in this Nation. So if David Koresh
illegally possessed them, he would have had to circumvent some of the strictest
laws we have. How will more laws help? By the way, it has been reported that
David Koresh possessed a Federal Firearms License which would have permitted
him to possess FULLY automatic weapons. If true, the 85 people who perished
Monday in the fire, died so that the Federal government could collect a couple
hundred dollars in taxes on guns David Koresh didn't declare.
I have heard claims that they were "stockpiling weapons." Yet considering the
number of people in the complex, even 200+ weapons would not have been out of
line with gun ownership statistics for all of Texas. What's next? A siege of
Dallas/Ft Worth for alleged "stockpiling?"
Face it David Skaggs, You have voted for virtually EVERY gun control law that
has passed through Congress, yet you claim that you are only for "reasonable"
restrictions. Bull****! Handgun Control Inc. is struggling to maintain
250,000 PAID members, while the NRA has just exceeded 3,000,000 members. They
are still growing at a rate of 2,000 new members per day. Driving around YOUR
district I see NRA stickers every day. In eight plus years of living here I
have only seen ONE HCI bumper sticker. When you vote for your "reasonable"
gun control laws, are you really representing your district, or are you
representing Sarah Bradys'?
Thank You,
William J. Vojak
April 20, 1993
Representative Skaggs,
Recently I wrote to you regarding my outrage over the tactics used by the
Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, (BATF), in Texas. In your response
you stated that "Events in Texas underscore the need for stricter gun control
legislation to keep guns out of the hand of groups such as the Branch Davidians.
My question to you is, "what grounds would you use to deny them access to
firearms?" Best I can tell this statement underscores your apparent total
ignorance of the subject, and highlights your personal bias against firearms.
I say this because there are only two possible paths of "gun control" which you
could have been referencing.
Either:
1) You were talking about their access to semi-automatics firearms. In this
case I should point out that semi-automatic firearms are legal in most areas of
this Country, including Texas and Colorado. In addition the members of the
"cult" have never been convicted of any crimes which would deny them the ability
to purchase these weapons. So under what grounds would you deny them these
guns? Their religion? The fact they they live in a large group alone by
themselves? Because you consider them to be a cult? Maybe I consider your
Church to be a cult!
This line of reasoning by you borders on the concept of "thought crimes." You
and Pat Robertson should really get along.
2) You were referring to the ALLEGED FULLY automatic weapons possessed by the
"cult." Under current US law, FULLY automatic weapons have been covered by
some of the strictest gun control laws in this Nation. So if David Koresh
illegally possessed them, he would have had to circumvent some of the strictest
laws we have. How will more laws help? By the way, it has been reported that
David Koresh possessed a Federal Firearms License which would have permitted
him to possess FULLY automatic weapons. If true, the 85 people who perished
Monday in the fire, died so that the Federal government could collect a couple
hundred dollars in taxes on guns David Koresh didn't declare.
I have heard claims that they were "stockpiling weapons." Yet considering the
number of people in the complex, even 200+ weapons would not have been out of
line with gun ownership statistics for all of Texas. What's next? A siege of
Dallas/Ft Worth for alleged "stockpiling?"
Face it David Skaggs, You have voted for virtually EVERY gun control law that
has passed through Congress, yet you claim that you are only for "reasonable"
restrictions. Bull****! Handgun Control Inc. is struggling to maintain
250,000 PAID members, while the NRA has just exceeded 3,000,000 members. They
are still growing at a rate of 2,000 new members per day. Driving around YOUR
district I see NRA stickers every day. In eight plus years of living here I
have only seen ONE HCI bumper sticker. When you vote for your "reasonable"
gun control laws, are you really representing your district, or are you
representing Sarah Bradys'?
Thank You,
William J. Vojak
---------------------------
Bill Vojak
vojak@icebucket.stortek.com
NRA, ILA,
Colorado Firearms Coalition
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The CBS Nightly Propaganda With Dan Rather. (RATHER NOT!)
The CBS Nightly Propaganda With Dan Rather. (RATHER BIASED!)
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4126 | From: drevik@utkvx.utk.edu (Drevik, Steve)
Subject: Re: Clinton's immunization program
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Lines: 32
In article <C5JoBH.7zt@apollo.hp.com>, goykhman@apollo.hp.com (Red Herring) writes...
>In article <1993Apr14.122758.11467@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jlinder@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey S Linder) writes:
>>In article <C5FJsL.6Is@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.C
>>OM (Mark Wilson) writes:
>>>On the news last night Clinton was bashing the republicans for stonewalling
>>>his so called stimulus package.
>>>It seems that one small item within this package was going to pay for free
>>>immunizations for poor kids.
>>
>>Immunizations for children in this country are already free if you care to
>>go have it done. The problem is not the cost, it is the irresponible parents
>>who are to stupid or to lazy to have it done.
I don't know where YOU live, but this is not the case nationawide.
Perhaps your state or municipality has put together the funds to
do so, but in my area and most areas where I know people, immunizations
cost $$$.
Sorry to shatter your stereotypes.
>
> In case you haven't noticed, Clintonites are pushing a universal health
> care ACCESS program. "Access" here means that folks who do not give
> a damn about immunizing their children will have health care services
> delivered to their doorsteps.
>
>
>--
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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4127 | From: jmichael@vnet.IBM.COM
Subject: Electric power line "balls"
Article-I.D.: almaden.19930406.142616.248
Lines: 4
Power lines and airplanes don't mix. In areas where lines are strung very
high, or where a lot of crop dusting takes place, or where there is danger
of airplanes flying into the lines, they place these plastic balls on the
lines so they are easier to spot.
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4128 | From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Subject: Re: Moraltiy? (was Re: <Political Atheists?)
Organization: sgi
Lines: 63
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com
In article <1ql8ekINN635@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
|>
|> >>>>What if I act morally for no particular reason? Then am I moral? What
|> >>>>if morality is instinctive, as in most animals?
|> >>>
|> >>>Saying that morality is instinctive in animals is an attempt to
|> >>>assume your conclusion.
|> >>
|> >>Which conclusion?
|> >
|> >You conclusion - correct me if I err - that the behaviour which is
|> >instinctive in animals is a "natural" moral system.
|>
|> See, we are disagreeing on the definition of moral here. Earlier, you said
|> that it must be a conscious act. By your definition, no instinctive
|> behavior pattern could be an act of morality. You are trying to apply
|> human terms to non-humans.
Pardon me? *I* am trying to apply human terms to non-humans?
I think there must be some confusion here. I'm the guy who is
saying that if animal behaviour is instinctive then it does *not*
have any moral sugnificance. How does refusing to apply human
terms to animals get turned into applying human terms?
|> I think that even if someone is not conscious of an alternative,
|> this does not prevent his behavior from being moral.
I'm sure you do think this, if you say so. How about trying to
convince me?
|>
|> >>You don't think that morality is a behavior pattern? What is human
|> >>morality? A moral action is one that is consistent with a given
|> >>pattern. That is, we enforce a certain behavior as moral.
|> >
|> >You keep getting this backwards. *You* are trying to show that
|> >the behaviour pattern is a morality. Whether morality is a behavior
|> >pattern is irrelevant, since there can be behavior pattern, for
|> >example the motions of the planets, that most (all?) people would
|> >not call a morality.
|>
|> I try to show it, but by your definition, it can't be shown.
I've offered, four times, I think, to accept your definition if
you allow me to ascribe moral significence to the orbital motion
of the planets.
|>
|> And, morality can be thought of a large class of princples. It could be
|> defined in terms of many things--the laws of physics if you wish. However,
|> it seems silly to talk of a "moral" planet because it obeys the laws of
|> phyics. It is less silly to talk about animals, as they have at least
|> some free will.
Ah, the law of "silly" and "less silly". what Mr Livesey finds
intuitive is "silly" but what Mr Schneider finds intuitive is "less
silly".
Now that's a devastating argument, isn't it.
jon.
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4129 | From: dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka)
Subject: Re: Speeding ticket from CHP
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services
Lines: 47
In article <1pq4t7$k5i@agate.berkeley.edu> downey@homer.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Allen B. Downey) writes:
> Fight your ticket : California edition by David Brown 1st ed.
> Berkeley, CA : Nolo Press, 1982
>
>The second edition is out (but not in UCB's library). Good luck; let
>us know how it goes.
>
Daniel Matejka writes:
The fourth edition is out, too. But it's probably also not
very high on UCB's "gotta have that" list.
In article <65930405053856/0005111312NA1EM@mcimail.com> 0005111312@mcimail.com (Peter Nesbitt) writes:
>Riding to work last week via Hwy 12 from Suisun, to I-80, I was pulled over by
>a CHP black and white by the 76 Gas station by Jameson Canyon Road. The
>officer stated "...it <looked> like you were going kinda fast coming down
>highway 12. You <must have> been going at least 70 or 75." I just said okay,
>and did not agree or disagree to anything he said.
Can you beat this ticket? Personally, I think it's your Duty As a Citizen
to make it as much trouble as possible for them, so maybe they'll Give Up
and Leave Us Alone Someday Soon.
The cop was certainly within his legal rights to nail you by guessing
your speed. Mr. Brown (the author of Fight Your Ticket) mentions an
Oakland judge who convicted a speeder "on the officer's testimony that
the driver's car sounded like it was being driven at an excessive speed."
You can pay off the State and your insurance company, or you can
take it to court and be creative. Personally, I've never won that way
or seen anyone win, but the judge always listens politely. And I haven't
seen _that_ many attempts.
You could try the argument that since bikes are shorter than the
cars whose speed the nice officer is accustomed to guessing, they therefore
appear to be further away, and so their speed appears to be greater than
it actually is. I left out a step or two, but you get the idea. If you
can make it convincing, theoretically you're supposed to win.
I've never tried proving the cop was mistaken. I did get to see
some other poor biker try it. He was mixing up various facts like
the maximum acceleration of a (cop) car, and the distance at which
the cop had been pacing him, and end up demonstrating that he couldn't
possibly have been going as fast as the cop had suggested. He'd
brought diagrams and a calculator. He was Prepared. He lost. Keep
in mind cops do this all the time, and their word is better than yours.
Maybe, though, they don't guess how fast bikes are going all the time.
Besides, this guy didn't speak English very well, and ended up absolutely
confounding the judge, the cop, and everyone else in the room who'd been
recently criminalized by some twit with a gun and a quota.
Ahem. OK, I'm better now. Maybe he'd have won had his presentation
been more polished. Maybe not. He did get applause.
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4130 | From: Nanci Ann Miller <nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Dear Mr. Theist
Organization: Sponsored account, School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 31
<1993Apr5.024150.10193@wam.umd.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <1993Apr5.024150.10193@wam.umd.edu>
west@next02cville.wam.umd.edu (Stilgar) writes:
> means to me. The full quote (Michael Crichton, _Jurrasic_Park_) was
> something like "The earth has existed quite contently for billions of
> years. We have been here but for the blink of an eye, and if we were gone
> tomorrow, the earth would not miss us.". I remember this quote to keep
> myself humble when thinking that we have progressed so far or that we
> are masters of this planet.
Cool quote.
> The earth doesn't need saving, it's existed quite happily with-
> out us, we are the ones who need saving.
Better watch it. The theists will jump on you for that... :-)
> Brian West.
> --
> THIS IS NOT A SIG FILE * -"To the Earth, we have been
> THIS IS NOT A SIG FILE * here but for the blink of an
> OK, SO IT'S A SIG FILE * eye, if we were gone tomorrow,
> posted by west@wam.umd.edu * we would not be missed."-
> who doesn't care who knows it. * (Jurassic Park)
> ** DICLAIMER: I said this, I meant this, nobody made me do it.**
Nanci
.........................................................................
If you know (and are SURE of) the author of this quote, please send me
email (nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu):
Lying to ourselves is more deeply ingrained than lying to others.
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4131 | From: ulan@ee.ualberta.ca (Dale Ulan)
Subject: Re: what to do with old 256k SIMMs?
Nntp-Posting-Host: eigen.ee.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Lines: 28
rubin@cis.ohio-state.edu (Daniel J Rubin) writes:
>How hard would it be to somehow interface them to some of the popular
>Motorola microcontrollers. I am a novice at microcontrollers, but I am
>starting to get into them for some of my projects. I have several 256k
>SIMMs laying around from upgraded Macs and if I could use them as "free"
>memory in one or two of my projects that would be great. One project that
>comes to mind is a Caller ID device that would require quite a bit of RAM
>to store several hundered CID records etc...
Assuming 68HC11...
In expanded muxed mode, you *could* do it. Much easier if you get a DRAM
controller IC. The MMI 673102 could be used to implement this, or you
could use a counter and a huge multiplexer to provide row/column/refresh
address multiplexing. The thing with DRAMs is that they require wierd
timing, address multiplexing, and refresh.
Actually, if you wanted to use a 68008 IC, you could look at AN897, which
has a neat controller built in. There is also the 683xx, I think one
of those has the DRAM controller built in. This one is for the 6664
DRAM, however, the 41256 has only one more address line, adding only
another component or so. The 256k SIMMs are basically 8 or 9 41256
DRAM chips (or their equivalent in fewer packages).
It *can* be done, just takes a bit of logic design. I'm actually
about to do it using a 65C02P3 chip... I've got 8 256k simms... that's
2 megabytes on my Apple //e... (used to be in my '386).
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4132 | From: reedr@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: DID HE REALLY RISE???
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Lines: 29
In article <Apr.9.01.11.16.1993.16937@athos.rutgers.edu>, emery@tc.fluke.COM (John Emery) writes:
> The one single historic event that has had the biggest impact on the
> world over the centuries is the resurrection of Jesus. At the same
> time, it is one of the most hotly contested topics....
>
> Did Jesus Christ really rise from the dead? Since the eyewitnesses
> are no longer living, we have only their written accounts. ...
> ... Because of the magnitude of significance
> involved here, either the resurrection is the greatest event in the
> history of man or the greatest deception played on man.
> [massive amounts of data deleted]
John,
While I will not take the time to rebut you point by point, I will suggest
three current works which I think will be helpful in your quest to answer
this question. John Dominic Crossan (Professor of Religion at De Paul Univ)-
_The Cross That Spoke_ Harper and Row Pub. 1988, Also his latest work
_The Historical Jesus - The Life of A Mediterranean Jewish Peasant_ Harper
and Row Pub. 1991, Also two works of Burton Mack (Professor of New Testament
at the Claremont Graduate School) _A Myth of Innocence_ Fortress Press 1988,
And his latest book _The Lost Gospel: The Book of Q and Christian Origins_
Harper and Row, 1992. You might start with Mack's book on Q and then
examine the others afterward. However I think that once you do that you will
see that your "evidence" is not as sturdy as you'd like. Most of the tired
arguements you stated, assume eyewitness accounts, such is not the case. But
Anyway look at Mack and Crossan and then get back to us.
randy
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4133 | From: beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck)
Subject: Re: Pixmaps, Masks, & Icons - Clues?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany.
Lines: 40
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.DE
NNTP-Posting-Host: irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de
In article <44975@sophia.inria.fr>, lehors@koala.inria.fr (Arnaud Le_Hors) writes:
|> In article <BUZZ.93Mar31093626@lion.bear.com>, buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti)
|> writes:
|> > This is a simple X graphics question:
|> >
|> > Assume you have a valid Window w, an icon pixmap, and the background
|> > mask (also a pixmap) for that icon. You wish to place the icon at (x,y)
|> > in w *without* the background.
|> >
|> > Question: What combination of XCopyArea() and GC functions are necessary?
|> > I think the idea is to "merge only those pixels of pixmap into w as
|> > indicated by the corresponding mask pixel value." Specifically, the
|> > problem involves a pixmap and mask generated by the XPM libs.
|> >
|> > Any clues would be most appreciated.
|>
|>
|> Xpm provides you with symbolic color names which can be specified at load time.
|> So, for doing what you want I would suggest you to define a Background symbol
|> in your pixmap file which you'll set to whatever color is used by the widget or
|> the window on which you want to put your pixmap.
|> This would surely be the simplest and fastest way to do what you want.
No. As soon as you blit two of this icons once on top of the other with a
little dislocation, you see the rectangular blit crashes too much of the
icon first blitted, because it draws a full rectangle. The way to do it
is masking: Create a bitmap with all pixels to be merged are 1 and all
not to be merged are 0. Then, set the clip_mask of the gc to this
bitmap, set the clip_x_origin and clip_y_origin of the gc to the x/y
coordinates where you blit the icon to the destination drawable, use GXCopy,
and XCopyArea() the icon pixmap to the destination drawable using this gc.
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4134 | From: wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Bruce Watson)
Subject: Quotation Was:(Re: <None|)
Organization: Alpha Science Computer Network, Denver, Co.
Lines: 12
In article <1993Apr16.155656.1@otago.ac.nz| bioccnt@otago.ac.nz writes:
|
|Can someone please remind me who said a well known quotation?
|
|He was sitting atop a rocket awaiting liftoff and afterwards, in answer to
|the question what he had been thinking about, said (approximately) "half a
|million components, each has to work perfectly, each supplied by the lowest
|bidder....."
|
Sounds similar to something Wally Schirra said.
--
Bruce Watson (wats@scicom.alphaCDC.COM) Bulletin 629-49 Item 6700 Extract 75,131
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4135 | From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack)
Subject: Re: Israeli Expansion-lust
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Lines: 24
In article <1993Apr14.225500.15812@bnr.ca> zbib@bnr.ca writes:
>Now, if actions of the lebanese resistance help send the
>Isrealis packing, I'm all for it. If you are really
>concerned about bloodshed, a little self criticism could do
>you a great favor.
One of these days you'll learn that the way to stop Israel
from fighting back is to stop attacking. If there were no attacks in
the security zone for a year because the Lebanese army could maintain
the peace, then Lebanon would be in much better shape.
Tell me something, though. Why do Syrian troops not get
attacked? Aren't they occupying Lebanon?
Israel has repeatedly stated that it will leave on two
conditions. One is a demonstration that the Lebanese army can keep
the peace. The second is that the Syrians pull out as well.
Adam
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
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4136 | From: ecsd@well.sf.ca.us (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: KAWAI K-4 way el cheapo - buy or be sorry, etc. etc.
Nntp-Posting-Host: well.sf.ca.us
Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA
Distribution: ba
Lines: 10
Gotta pay my WELL bill - eating is of mere passing interest in
comparison.
KAWAI K-4 Synthesizer for $400 IF YOU ACT NOW - cash only pleeze,
take delivery in Berkeley. CALL (510) 287-5737 and leave name
and number for me to call back and arrange this MARVELOUS FEAST.
OFFER EXPIRES SOON (how soon? Soon - believe it.)
ACT NOW.
Thank you for your support . . . {wheeze}
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4137 | From: bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Nntp-Posting-Host: okcforum.osrhe.edu
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Lines: 54
: In my mind, to say that science has its basis in values is a bit of a
: reach. Science has its basis in observable fact.
I'd say that what one chooses to observe and how the observation is
interpreted and what significance it's given depends a great deal on
the values of the observer. Science is a human activity and as such,
is subject to the same potential for distortion as any other human
activity. The myth that scientists are above moral influence or
ethical concern, that their knowledge can be abstacted whole and pure
from nature untainted by the biases of the scientist, is nonsense.
Bill
: If one is to argue for objective values (in a moral sense) then one must
: first start by demonstrating that morality itself is objective. Considering
: the meaning of the word "objective" I doubt that this will ever happen.
: So, back to the original question:
: And objective morality is.....?
This may be an unfortunate choice of words, almost self-contradictory.
Objective in the sense used here means something immutable and
absolute while morality describes the behavior of some group of
people. The first term is all inclusive, the second is specific. The
concept supposedly described may have meaning however.
If there is a God as described by the Christians (for instance), then
He has existence apart from and independent of humankind; His
existence is outside of our frame of reference (reality). If this
being declares a thing to be so, it is -necessarily- so since He has
defined Himself as omnipotent and, if His claims are to be believed,
He is at least omnipotent relative to us. God is intrinsically
self-defined and all reality is whatever He says it is - in an
objective sense.
If God determines a standard of conduct, that standard is objective.
If human beings are held accountable for their conformance to that
standard while permitted to ignore it, they substitute a relative
morality or mode of conduct, giving the term morality a nebulous,
meaningless sense that can be argued about by those pretending to
misunderstand. The standard is objective and the conduct required to
meet that standard is therefore objectively determined.
Just because it is convenient to pretend that the term morality is
infinitely malleable, doesn't mean that the objective standard itself
doesn't exist. Morality has come to mean little more than a cultural
norm, or the preferred conduct of "decent" people, making it seem
subjective, but it is derived from an absolute, objective, standard.
Ironically, this objective standard is in perfect accord with our true
nature (according to Christianity at least), yet is condemned as being
contrary to human nre, oppressive and severe. This may be due as
Bill
much to our amoral inclinations as to the standard itself, but like it
or not, it's there.x
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4138 | From: Wayne Alan Martin <wm1h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Dayton Hamfest
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 5
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <1993Apr19.163122.20454@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Yes, it is the 23, 24 and 25, in but does anyone have directions how to
get there after I get to Dayton. Thanks
Wayne Martin
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4139 | From: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
Subject: Re: Facinating facts: 30 bit serial number, possibly fixed S1 and S2
Organization: University of Illinois @ Urbana/Champaign
Lines: 32
The only way to view this method of generating unit keys is as a back-door.
What else can you call a key deterministically generated from the serial
number?
To generate the unit key for a serial number N, the 30-bit value N is
first padded with a fixed 34-bit block to produce a 64-bit block N1.
S1 and S2 are then used as keys to triple-encrypt N1, producing a
64-bit block R1:
R1 = E[D[E[N1; S1]; S2]; S1] .
Similarly, N is padded with two other 34-bit blocks to produce N2 and
N3, and two additional 64-bit blocks R2 and R3 are computed:
R2 = E[D[E[N2; S1]; S2]; S1]
R3 = E[D[E[N3; S1]; S2]; S1] .
R1, R2, and R3 are then concatenated together, giving 192 bits. The
first 80 bits are assigned to U1 and the second 80 bits to U2. The
rest are discarded. The unit key U is the XOR of U1 and U2. U1 and U2
are the key parts that are separately escrowed with the two escrow
agencies.
What happens is that the need for the Escrow houses is completely eliminated.
Or should I say, the need to _access_ the Escrow houses to decrypt the data.
The houses will still serve a real purpose as far as generating the illusion
of protection, and small-town cops won't be let in on the "secret", so they
will still go through the motions of going to the Escrow houses, but the fact
is __the Federal government CAN and WILL build a chip which generates the unit
keys from the encrypted serial number!__ 'Nuff Said.
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4140 | From: D.Haywood@sheffield-hallam.ac.UK (Dave Haywood)
Subject: tvtwm & xsetroot, X11R5 and Sparc 10 keyboard
Organization: Sheffield Hallam University
Lines: 66
Reply-To: D.Haywood@sheffield-hallam.ac.uk
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Hi,
Please reply to me direct as I am not a member of this list.
I am new to X, so please excuse my lax (read: "probably incorrect")
terminology!
Environment: Sun Sparc 10, SunOs 4.1.3. X11R5 path level 23. My X process
is started by xdm.
i) I want to setup the backgroud (root window?) of the tvtwm display to
display the escherknot etc (grey is a very boring colour to work on)!
The setup is as follows:
lib/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 - xsetroot -bitmap ... etc
~user/.xsession - xsetroot .... etc
tvtwm
There are also .tvtwmrc and .Xdefaults files in the (~user) home
directory.
The xsetroot in Xsetup_0 displays the appropriate bitmap in the xdm
login window as expected - very nice!
Unfortunately, when the users session is started, the background of the
tvtwm window reverts to grey. If I manually type xsetroot... in an
xterm window when the session has started, the background is changed as
expected.
The question is: How do I retain the background from the login window
and/or specify a new background on a per-user basis as part of the
the users session startup?
ii) When I open an Xterm on the Sparc 10, not all of the keys are recognised
and some keys on the keyboard are not sending the correct characters.
ie: real key key shown on screen
------------ -------------------
hash back slash
tilde pipe
double quote at symbol
pound hash
cursor key not recognised
This is very annoying! Is X at fault here or the machine setup? I have
installed the xterm drivers that came with X11R5 in both terminfo and
termcap as they seemed more uptodate.
Typing set in an xterm window shows a terminal type of xterm - as
expected!
Any help on how to correct either of these problems much appreciated!
Thanks,
Dave.
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4141 | From: karen@angelo.amd.com (Karen Black)
Subject: Re: Happy Easter!
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA
Lines: 18
ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>Nick Pettefar (npet@bnr.ca) wrote:
>: English cars:-
>
>: Rover, Reliant, Morgan, Bristol, Rolls Royce, etc.
> ^^^^^^
> Talk about Harleys using old technology, these
>Morgan people *really* like to use old technology.
>I think their suspension design hasn't changed since
>they went from 3 wheels to 4 back in the '50s. And it's
>not like they had reached the pinnacle of good design
>at that point either.
Well, if you want to pick on Morgan, why not attack its ash (wood)
frame or its hand-bent metal skin (just try and get a replacement :-)).
I thought the kingpost suspension was one of the Mog's better features.
Karen Black
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4142 | From: v-cckch@microsoft.com (Kenneth Charlton)
Subject: Re: "Jump Starting" a Mac II
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 5
Apple dealerships once had kits to replace the soldered in batteries with a battery
holder.
Real easy to install, but it does require some soldering.
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4143 | Distribution: world
From: David_A._Schnider@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Subject: SE pricing
Lines: 7
What is the value of an SE (HDFD) 4/20?
-David
**** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG. The message contained in
**** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.
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4144 | From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack)
Subject: Re: Unconventional peace proposal
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Lines: 22
In article <1483500348@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>1. The idea of providing financial incentives to selected
>forms of partnership and marriage, is not conventional. However,
>it is based on the concept of affirmative action, which is
>recognized as a legitimate form of public policy to reverse the
>perverse effects of segregation and discrimination.
Other people have already shown this to be a rediculous
proposal. however, I wanted to point out that there are many people
who do not think that affirmative action is a either intelligent or
productive. It is demeaning to those who it supposedly helps and it
is discriminatory.
Any proposal based on it is likely bunk as well.
Adam
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
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4145 | From: pinky@tamu.edu (The Man behind The Curtain)
Subject: Views on isomorphic perspectives?
Organization: Texas A&M University
Lines: 87
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu
Keywords: isomorphic perspectives
I'm working upon a game using an isometric perspective, similar to
that used in Populous. Basically, you look into a room that looks
similar to the following:
xxxx
xxxxx xxxx
xxxx x xxxx
xxxx x xxxx
xxxx 2 xxxx 1 xxxx
x xxxx xxxx x
x xxxx xxxx x
x xxxx o xxxx x
xxxx 3 /|\ xxxx
xxxx /~\ xxxx
xxxx xxxx
xxxx xxxx
xxxx
The good thing about this perspective is that you can look and move
around in three dimensions and still maintain your peripheral vision. [*]
Since your viewpoint is always the same, the routines can be hard-coded
for a particular vantage. In my case, wall two's rising edge has a slope
of 1/4. (I'm also using Mode X, 320x240).
I've run into two problems; I'm sure that other readers have tried this
before, and have perhaps formulated their own opinions:
1) The routines for drawing walls 1 & 2 were trivial, but when I ran a
packed->planar image through them, I was dismayed by the "jaggies." I'm
now considered some anti-aliasing routines (speed is not really necessary).
Is it worth the effort to have the artist draw the wall already skewed,
thus being assured of nice image, or is this too much of a burden?
2) Wall 3 presents a problem; the algorithm I used tends to overly distort
the original. I tried to decide on paper what pixels go where, and failed.
Has anyone come up with method for mapping a planar to crosswise sheared
shape?
Currently I take:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32
33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48
49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64
and produce:
1 2 3 4
33 34 35 36 17 18 19 20 5 6 7 8
49 50 51 52 37 38 39 40 21 22 23 24 9 10 11 12
53 54 55 56 41 42 43 44 25 26 27 28 13 14 15 16
57 58 59 60 45 46 47 48 29 30 31 32
61 62 63 64
Line 1 follows the slope. Line 2 is directly under line 1.
Line 3 moves up a line and left 4 pixels. Line 4 is under line 3.
This fills the shape exactly without any unfilled pixels. But
it causes distortions. Has anyone come up with a better way?
Perhaps it is necessary to simply draw the original bitmap
already skewed?
Are there any other particularly sticky problems with this perspective?
I was planning on having hidden plane removal by using z-buffering.
Locations are stored in (x,y,z) form.
[*] For those of you who noticed, the top lines of wall 2 (and wall 1)
*are* parallel with its bottom lines. This is why there appears to
be an optical illusion (ie. it appears to be either the inside or outside
of a cube, depending on your mood). There are no vanishing points.
This simplifies the drawing code for objects (which don't have to
change size as they move about in the room). I've decided that this
approximation is alright, since small displacements at a large enough
distance cause very little change in the apparent size of an object in
a real perspective drawing.
Hopefully the "context" of the picture (ie. chairs on the floor, torches
hanging on the walls) will dispell any visual ambiguity.
Thanks in advance for any help.
--
Till next time, \o/ \o/
V \o/ V email:pinky@tamu.edu
<> Sam Inala <> V
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4146 | From: luriem@alleg.edu(Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer
Subject: I think I am going to cry again Yankees lose it again
Organization: Allegheny College
I can't believe this, Howe has an ERA in the 80's He is improving!!!
Key pitches a GREAT game, and they screw it up AGAIN.
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4147 | From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Subject: MOTIF & X on Windows NT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge
Lines: 16
In article <1993Apr7.044749.11770@topgun>, smikes@topgun (Steven Mikes) writes:
> Another company, Congruent Corporation of New York City, has also ported Xlib
> Xt and Motif 1.1 over to MS Windows NT, which provides full client development
> for X applications in an NT environment.
Could someone please send me the postal and email address of
Congruent Corporation (and any competitors they may have).
Thank you.
--
snail@lsl.co.uk
"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless
means to side with the powerful, not to be Neutral."
Quote by Freire.
Poster by OXFAM.
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4148 | From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: EIGHT MYTHS about National Health Insurance (Pt II)
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: PhDs In The Hall
Lines: 134
harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:
>F<O>CUS/HEALTH: EIGHT MYTHS about National Health Insurance (Pt II)
>
> An office visit that's $52 in Seattle is $18 in Vancouver
> (Canada). That's because, among other things, they've given their
> government power to bargain with doctors and hospitals over fees.
The difference in the litigation environment is reflected in the fees.
Lack of defensive medicine and near-absence of malpractice is really
why we spend less using the most expensive approach of pure insurance
in Canada (along with France and Germany) without HMO's --- the NYT
has admitted that malpractice insurance fees are an order of magnitude
lower in Canada but doctors take-home pay is almost equal to American
doctors; also, minimal bureaucracy 'cos the system is so-o-o simple
(early March).
Part of the deal for using the all-insurance approach like the French
and Germans do (hey, why don't they criticize France and Germany? Is
it because too many people take French and German in college to make
the accusations stick? (-;) was to preserve the doctors independance.
Since the provincial wings of the CMA are the ones that go to bat when
the fee schedule hikes are presented, the politically-bent doctors
were just cackling when they realized the CMA would grow in strength
rather than diminish, especially when unopposed unlike in socialized
medicine approaches like Britain's National Health Service.
>"`You've got to remember, you've got a waiting list as well, but it's
>not as obvious. If you're poor and you don't have insurance, you don't
> go to a surgeon. In the States you ration by ability to pay.'"
For non-life threatening things, market arguments adequately cover why
certain procedures are in scarcer demand. I have MD friends who can't
make a living as specialists back in Manitoba not due to the insurance
rates but because they won't get enough customers -- the CMA medical
monopoly's grip on doctors licencing (as in the US) aside -- so they
must move to larger places. However, this does not refute debunking
of waiting lines for urgent AND routine care, as has been done in the
U.S. by Consumers Reports, health policy studies cited by Prof. Dennis
E. Shea on USENET, CNN, NYT, etc.
Doug Fierro has posted a NYT article from 3 weeks ago about Canada's
health insurance approach, on Talk.politics.medicine. There is one
small error in the article: not all of our hospitals are private.
>WOULDN'T NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE MEAN THAT AMERICANS WHO ARE NOW
>FULLY INSURED MIGHT HAVE TO SETTLE FOR LESS?
>
>In Canada, provincial insurance covers all health costs except dental
>care, eyeglasses, prescription drugs, ambulance service, and private
>hospital rooms, -- so many Canadians do end up buying some private
>insurance. A policy to cover all of these things runs about #40 to $40
>a month.
Of course, the one thing to note is that in the Canada/France/Germany
case, private insurance *offloaded* the basic coverage to the public
sector. They realized they were keeping low-risk/high-profit extra
insurance for things like private/semi-private rooms (vs. ward
accomodation), dental, glasses, etc. for corporate or personal
benefits, they'll have nothing to do with you if you want to be
covered for basic care.
At that point, they wouldn't even consider a "voucher" approach
to broker the universal coverage and sell policies to make up
the difference in the federal guidelines and market stuff.
>******************************************************************
>
>WOULDN'T FREE CARE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RUN TO THE DOCTOR FOR EVERY
>ACHE AND PAIN?
>
>People who get free treatment *do* go to the doctor and hospital about
>a third more often than those who have to pay a share of their medical
>bills.
>
>Still, Canadians -- who pay nothing at the doctor's -- have a lower
>per-person health bill than we do.
It is "free" in that there are no deductibles nor copayments (two
things which I advocate to make the Canadian insurance look more like
real health insurance -- which actually it is). I know that when
working in Alberta, Ontario and Quebec, I was aware that I was paying
for health insurance - e.g., in Toronto, OHIP fees were listed on my
pay stub; Manitoba did not collect at paycheque time, but only
annually at income tax time (built into the tax rate). Only fiscal
naifs will proclaim that it's free, along with the Canadian Left for
that is part of their brainwashing agenda.
The French do have copayments, though. France Magazine's Summer
1992 edition has a fantastic presentation of their basic insurance
coverage, including a sample chart of copayment percentages. For
1-30 days, you're covered for 80% of the public hospital rate, 100%
afterward. With extra private insurance, you can get into a private
hospital and be covered for any differences beyond the public hospital
rate. The public insurance covers 100% beyond 30 days, or the same
cash amount for a private hospital and the difference is paid
out-of-pocket or according to your supplementary private insurance.
Over 2/3rds of French have some form of extra private insurance. So,
the other 30% of health costs in Europe are out of private funds, not
gleaned from other taxes. The GDP figures are combined public and
private expenditures for total outlay using the same methods that
yield the 13-14% figure for the U.S.
>ISN'T THE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY JUST TOO BIG
>AND POWERFUL TO KILL?
>
>Dismantling the health segment of our insurance industry would be
>"politically thorny," in the quiet words of one advocate for a
>national plan. Some 1,200 firms now sell more than $192 billion in
>health insurance. They'd put up a hard fight. Not only has the industry
>grown eightfold since Canada shut down its own health insurers, but
>our government leaves politicians more open to lobbyists than does
>Canada's parliamentary system.
Health insurance does exist in Canada and in Western Europe, its
just that it doesn't cover basic care. You can opt out in Canada
and Germany, but you'll have to go uninsured as a result because
there are too few other people that do so --- i.e., no market.
When private insurance realized how much money they'd make without the
risks involved in basic insurance (e.g., neurosurgery) versus deluxe
amenities (e.g., having to call Granada TV to replace a rental set on
the fritz in someone's private hospital room), they started to pat
themselves on the back for their social responsibility. In Quebec
last spring, a consortium of private insurers publicly warned against
any thoughts of privatizing routine, low cost parts of that province's
public health insurance plan.
gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare
> gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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4149 | From: jac2y@Virginia.EDU ("Jonathan A. Cook <jac2y>")
Subject: Re: Damn Furriners Be Taken Over
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 34
kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu writes:
Kaldis, you are a worm.
> Rank balderdash! America's reputation abroad has become tarnished
> because of feckless and pusillanimous cowards who apparently do not
> have the requisite gonads to stand up for American honor and dignity.
Translation- It's them DAMN liberals again!
> The American Way may not be the only way, and you may not consider it
> to be necessarily the best way, but, by God, it's _OUR_ way and we're
> going to stick with it! If you can't go along with the program, then
> perhaps you should consider moving elsewhere.
Who gave you the authority to create and enforce this rather
hazy thing called "the American Way"? This is a democracy, and
we don't need to stick to it or stick up for it unless we so
choose. Remember that, Ted, from Civics class in Greeley, CO?
> That is exactly the _PROBLEM_ with Canadians! They don't stand for
> anything with certitude.
Nice generalization.
> You pipsqueak! You mouse! If you are sorry to intrude then why do
> it? Don't you have the courage of your convictions? Hell, do you
> even have any convictions to start with? What kind of example of
> manly dignity is this? Sheesh!
Coming from such a crass example of "manly dignity," he must
feel _really_ hurt.
Jon, jac2y@virginia.edu
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4150 | From: acooper@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Subject: Re: thoughts on christians
Organization: Macalester College
Lines: 94
In article <1993Apr15.050750.3893@nuscc.nus.sg>, cmtan@iss.nus.sg (Tan Chade Meng - dan) writes:
> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
> : In article <1q338l$cva@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric
> : Molas) wrote:
> : > Christianity is an infectious cult. The reasons it flourishes are
> : > because 1) it gives people without hope or driven purpose in life
> : > a safety blanked to hide behind. "Oh wow..all i have to do is
> : > follow this christian moral standard and I get eternal happiness."
> :
> : I agree that in many cases primitive emotional feelings based on
> : 'haha, you won't laugh in hell' mentalities makes certain religions
> : very attractive for certain personalities.
>
> I agree with both of u, but I would like to make a small point. Xtianity, &
> other dogmatic religions, not only attract people without hope etc but
> also attract "average" people as well. I believe that Xtainity, thru
> its escapist doctrines & absolutist attitudes, provides great psychological
> shelter from day-to-day frustrations, unhappiness & fear of uncertainty
> & unknown etc.
>
This is a good point, but I think "average" people do not take up Christianity
so much out of fear or escapism, but, quite simply, as a way to improve their
social life, or to get more involved with American culture, if they are kids of
immigrants for example. Since it is the overwhelming major religion in the
Western World (in some form or other), it is simply the choice people take if
they are bored and want to do something new with their lives, but not somethong
TOO new, or TOO out of the ordinary. Seems a little weak, but as long as it
doesn't hurt anybody...
> The Buddha had something to say about the attractiveness of religions:
>
> "When driven by fear, man worships sacred mountains, sacred stones,
> and sacred trees."
>
> However, the Buddha also said,
>
> "If somebody finds peace in any religion, let him be".
>
>
These are good quotes, and I agree with both of them, but let's make sure to
alter the scond one so that includes something like "...let him be, as long as
he is not preventing others from finding their peace." or something like that.
(Of course, I suppose, if someone were REALLY "at peace", there would be no
need for inflicting evangelism)
> Personally, I feel that since religion have such a poweful
> psychological effect, we should let theists be. But the problem is that
> religions cause enormous harm to non-believers and to humanity as a whole
> (holy wars, inquisitions, inter-religious hatred, impedence of science
> & intellectual progress, us-&-them attitudes etc etc. Need I say more?).
> I really don't know what we can do about them. Any comments?
>
Well, it is a sure thing we will have to live with them all our lives. Their
popularity seems to come and go. I remember when I first entered High School,
I was an atheist (always had been) and so were about 7 of my friends. At this
time, 5 of those 7 have converted, always to Christianity (they were all also
immigrants from Taiwan, or sons of immigrants, hence my earlier gross
generalization). Christianity seems a lot more popular to people now than it
ever has before (since I've been noticing). Maybe it is just my perceptions
that are chagning. Who knows?
I for one am perfectly willing to live and let live with them, so long as we
have some set of abstract rights/agreements on how we should treat each other:
I have no desire to be hurt by them or their notions. For all the well-put
arguments on this usenet, it never does any good. Argumentation does not
really seem to apply to Christians (or even some atheists)- it must simply be a
step the person takes naturally, almost, "instinctively"...
best regards,
********************************************************************************
* Adam John Cooper "Verily, often have I laughed at the weaklings *
* who thought themselves good simply because *
* acooper@macalstr.edu they had no claws." *
********************************************************************************
>
--
>
> The UnEnlightened One
> ------------------+--------------------------------------------------------
> | "Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be
> Tan Chade Meng | expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it
> Singapore | transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology;
> cmtan@iss.nus.sg | it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is
> | based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience
> | of all things, natural and spiritual, as a meaningful
> | unity" -- Einstein
> ------------------+--------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
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4151 | From: halle@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Ezra D.B. Hall)
Subject: Re: TEst Instruments for sale
Keywords: test,instruments,meter,power,supply,oscilloscope,storage display
Article-I.D.: rpi.wss5lqm
Lines: 24
Nntp-Posting-Host: rebecca.its.rpi.edu
The following is no longer for sale, it has been sold.
-Textronics Type 611 Storage Display (screen dim. 6.5"x8.5)
-Textronics TM503 base with three PG502 250MHz pulse generators.
-Textronics 6289A Adj. DC power supply 0-40volts 0-1.5 amps
-Keithley Instruments Picoammeter
-(3) Analogic 3 1/2 Digit panal mount voltmeters
**************************************************************
Still for sale,
-Hewlett Packard 180A Oscilloscope with 180AA four channel 50 MHz vertical
Amplifier and 1822A time base and delay generator. Best offer over $300
-(1) Analogic 4 1/2 Digit panal mount voltmeter, powered by 5 VDC,
Model AN2574 1X3P, Same Dimensions as above, ----$55 +shipping----
Reasonable offers will be accepted. Please respond by e-mail or phone.
E-mail halle@rpi.edu phone (518)276-7382
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4152 | From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: Too Many Europeans in NHL
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Lines: 50
Ten years ago, the number of Europeans in the NHL was roughly a quarter
of what it is now. Going into the 1992/93 season, the numbers of Euros on
NHL teams have escalated to the following stats:
Canadians: 400
Americans: 100
Europeans: 100
Please note that these numbers are rounded off, and taken from the top
25 players on each of the 24 teams. My source is the Vancouver Sun.
Here's the point: there are far too many Europeans in the NHL. I am sick
of watching a game between an American and a Canadian team (let's say, the
Red Wings and the Canucks) and seeing names like "Bure" "Konstantinov" and
"Borshevshky". Is this North America or isn't it? Toronto, Detriot, Quebec,
and Edmonton are particularly annoying, but the numbers of Euros on other
teams is getting worse as well.
I live in Vancouver and if I hear one more word about "Pavel Bure, the
Russian Rocket" I will completely throw up. As it is now, every time I see
the Canucks play I keep hoping someone will cross-check Bure into the plexiglassso hard they have to carry him out on a stretcher. (By the way, I'm not a
Canucks fan to begin with ;-).
Okay, the stretcher remark was a little carried away. But the point is that
I resent NHL owners drafting all these Europeans INSTEAD of Canadians (and
some Americans). It denies young Canadians the opportunity to play in THEIR
NORTH AMERICAN LEAGUE and instead gives it to Europeans, who aren't even
better hockey players. It's all hype. This "European mystique" is sickening,
but until NHL owners get over it, Canadian and American players will continue
to have to fight harder to get drafted into their own league.
With the numbers of Euros in the NHL escalating, the problem is clearly
only getting worse.
I'm all for the creation of a European Hockey League, and let the Bures
and Selannes of the world play on their own continent.
I just don't want them on mine.
--
Richard J. Rauser "You have no idea what you're doing."
rauser@sfu.ca "Oh, don't worry about that. We're professional
WNI outlaws - we do this for a living."
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"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." -Dr.Banzai
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4153 | From: ac999135@umbc.edu (ac999135)
Subject: *** WANTED: Cheap Used GAMEBOY/TG-16 Games ***
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Lines: 7
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc8.umbc.edu
X-Auth-User: ac999135
The title says it all...If you have some cheap used
GAMEBOY or TG-16 (2 Player or more) Games, Please
email me all offers...
Rohit
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4154 | From: rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy)
Subject: Re: Good Neighbor Political Hypocrisy Test
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 99
In article <stevethC5LM2E.Fx8@netcom.com> steveth@netcom.com (Steve Thomas) wri
tes:
>In article <C5L69C.Fxp@news.iastate.edu> jrbeach@iastate.edu (Jeffry R Beach)
writes:
>>In article <stevethC5Js6F.Fn5@netcom.com> steveth@netcom.com (Steve Thomas) w
rites:
>>> Boy, it looks like the WOD is WORKING REALLY GOOD to stop people from
>>> being screwed up in the head, given that example!
>>>
>>>(Issue: your friend _got_ his drugs--legal or not legal, he'll continue to
>>>get them. Issue #2: why should _I_, as somebody who does NOT use illegal
>>>drugs and who IS NOT "screwed up" have to PAY for this idiot's problems? He
's
>>>not doing anybody any harm except himself. The WOD, on the other hand, is a
n
>>>immediate THREAT to MY life and livelyhood. Tell me why I should sacrafice
>>>THIS to THAT!).
>>
>>Hello, is there anybody in there? You think you have to pay for this idiot's
>>problem now, who's going to pay for the ballooning number of addicts and
>>all of the associated problems with them. I don't even want to think about
>>it with Hillary in the White House and an administration that "feels our
>>pain".
>
>Look, if you were truly for lower taxation and less government, you would not
>be advocating the WOD. Ever wonder why the WOD is a BI-partisan issue?
>
>>
>>No harm but to himself? What about when he drives his school bus full
>>of kids into a train. When he gets stoned and drives up on a sidewalk
>>and kills 5 people. When he lives off me on Welfare for the rest of his
>>life.
>
>Ridiculous. I can't imagine anyone this stupid. Forgive me for flaming,
>but this is sooooooo obvious!
>
>Tell me why any of the above cases cannot be caused be a legal drug, viz.
>alcohol, or are you for having a War on That, too?
>
>Now I'll tell you: more people are killed by alcohol-related accidents
>than all other drugs combined. BY FAR.
>
Probably because more people have access to alchohol. It IS LEGAL you know.
>>
>>The problem with the WOD is that it has no bite. Sending the slimy
>>bastards to the chair for selling drugs to kids, now there's some bit.
>>
>
>Yeah, that's it, send a kid from the inner-city, who has no other viable
>means to make money and turns to selling drugs, to an over-crowded federal
>prison where he learns to do Real Crime.
>
Of course, this kid would be much better off selling crack to his neighborhood
and helping in its demise.
>Without drug money being pumped into these blights from the (affluent)
>outside, there would be no crime (who would they steal from, each other?).
>Drugs bring money into the community just like any other business would,
>except that, since drugs are illegal, the economy is an underground one.
And if those drugs were legal, the neighborhood could legally go to hell.
>A self-sustaining underground economy can only proliferate by a constant
>willful infusion of money from the outside. If you take away drug laws,
>you put an end to the underground economy, and therefore to large-scale
>crime.
>
And if we made murder legal, we would put an end to murder as a crime.
>Kids in the inner-cities are faced with a very tough life growing up
>there, or selling drugs and having everything at their fingertips instantly.
>Many kids choose selling drugs. They sell products to people who want to
>buy them. They make money off of rich white kids from the suburbs. Then
>they go to prison. Then they become hardened criminals, and learn that
>you're much better off stealing car-stereos in the suburbs because all
>the police forces are spending all their money in the inner city saving
>people from themselves.
What??????
>
>You can bring up all the examples you want about crack-babies and whathaveyou.
>The solution never has anything to do with the laws (crack is illegal).
>
So you are saying crack babies who are that way legally are okay?
>No social problem, however great, is worth destroying the freedom in America.
>The destruction of freedom is never an answer to any social problem.
You can't even walk down the street at night alone in America because of drugs.
Freedom my ass.
Ryan
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4155 | From: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Subject: Re: Standard Colormaps
Nntp-Posting-Host: bambam
Reply-To: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Lines: 50
In article <1rjdk8INNcnh@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, jgealow@mtl.mit.edu (Jeffrey C. Gealow) writes:
> I'm working on an X11R5 application and have concerns regarding
> standard colormaps.
>
> The X11R5 documentation says: "Usually, a window manager creates
> these colormaps." I wonder what window manager the writer had
> in mind. Neither twm or mwm seem to create standard colormaps.
Standard colormaps were spec'd with the intention that window managers
would make them available. This doesn't mean that every window manager
author in the world immediately dropped everything they were doing and
implemented this at top priority.
The ESGE server we ship makes the XA_RGB_BEST_MAP available at
startup. It doesn't wait for window managers to do it.
> Of course, one can use xstdcmap to create standard colormaps.
> However, xstdcmap doesn't seem to try very hard to avoid
> conflicts with the default colormap. When I use standard
> colormaps created by xstdcmap, the rest of my display goes black.
> So it seems as if use of standard colormaps causes the very
> problem standard colormaps are intended to avoid. Perhaps
> if every application used standard colormaps, things would
> be wonderful. But not many applications seem to use
> standard colormaps.
Does your hardware have only one CLUT? Since standard colormaps
typically devour all 256 entries, there is no way it can avoid
displacing the entire default colormap if your hardware has only one
CLUT.
I don't believe standard colormaps are intended to aboid possible
colormap flashing between clients using the default coilormap. Rather,
colormap flashing will be avoided between two clients that use the
same standard colormap. An example would be two clients that need a
full color range would both use XA_RGB_BEST_MAP (or whatever it's
called under X11R5).
If you are trying to avoid colormap flashing with the default
colormap, your best bet is to try to load all the colors you use into
that colormap. If you can't do that, then you'll get flashing on a one
hw CLUT framebuffer.
Now if your window manager used the same standard colormap as your
client, this flashing could also be avoided. Perhaps some window
managers have command line options for selecting standard colormaps?
--
-paul pmartz@dsd.es.com
Evans & Sutherland
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4156 | From: gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine)
Subject: Re: plus minus stat
Nntp-Posting-Host: hudson.uvic.ca
Reply-To: gballent@hudson.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Lines: 23
In article 9088@blue.cis.pitt.edu, jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald) writes:
>Jagr has a higher +/-, but Francis has had more points. And take it from
>an informed observer, Ronnie Francis has had a *much* better season than
>Jaromir Jagr. This is not to take anything away from Jaro, who had a
>decent year (although it didn't live up to the expectations of some).
Bowman tended to overplay Francis at times because he is a Bowman-style
player. He plays hard at all times, doesn't disregard his defensive
responsibilities and is a good leader. Bowman rewarded him be increasing his
ice time.
Jagr can be very arrogant and juvenile and display a "me first" attitude.
This rubbed Bowman the wrong way and caused him to lose some ice time.
Throughout the year, Francis consistently recieved more ice time than
Jagr. Althouhg I have never seen stats on this subject, I am pretty
sure that Jagr had more points per minute played that Francis. When
you add to that Jagr's better +/- rating, I think it becomes evident
that Jagr had a better season- not that Francis had a bad one.
Gregmeister
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4157 | From: julkunen@messi.uku.fi (Antero Julkunen)
Subject: What about sci.med.chemistry
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland
Lines: 10
There is this newsgroup sci.med.physics and there has been quite a lot
discussion in this group about many chemical items e.g. prolactin
cholesterol, TSH etc. Should there also be a newsgroup sci.med.chemistry?
--
Antero Julkunen, Dept Clinical Chemistry, University of Kuopio, Finland
e-mail: julkunen@messi.uku.fi, phone +358-71-162680, fax +358-71-162020
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4158 | From: mcbeeb@atlantis.CSOS.ORST.EDU (Brian Mcbee)
Subject: How can clipper stay classified?
Article-I.D.: leela.1qstqs$jmt
Distribution: world
Organization: CS Dept. Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon.
Lines: 8
NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantis.csos.orst.edu
Maybe I don't know enough to know what I am asking, but with millions
of these things about, how could the algorythm possibly stay secret?
Couldn't some clever hackers just grind the thing down layer by layer,
and see how it worked?
--
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Brian McBee mcbeeb@atlantis.cs.orst.edu Finger me for PGP 2.1 key
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4159 | From: pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney)
Subject: Re: Record burning...
Organization: Somewhere in the Twentieth Century
Lines: 23
rgolder@hoh.mbl.edu (Robert Golder) writes:
>The movie version
>of "The Last Temptation of Christ" was so awful that practically no one
>would have seen it, or been influenced by its message, had not
>conservatives loudly protested its distribution. They unwittingly
>created a larger market for the movie.
In many places, Christians were sucessful in their attempts
to get the films banned, or at least given a very restrictive
showing.
I have no problem with Christians burning their own pieces of
art (though I find it a tragic waste). I do however have a
problem with their attempts to censor what I may or may not
view.
P.
--
moorcockpratchettdenislearydelasoulu2iainmbanksneworderheathersbatmanpjorourke
clive p a u l m o l o n e y Come, let us retract the foreskin of misconception
james trinity college dublin and apply the wire brush of enlightenment - GeoffM
brownbladerunnersugarcubeselectronicblaylockpowersspikeleekatebushhamcornpizza
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4160 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Neurasthenia
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 15
In article <1993Apr21.174553.812@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>responds well, if you're not otherwise immunocompromised. Noring's
>anal-retentive idee fixe on having a fungal infection in his sinuses
>is not even in the same category here, nor are these walking neurasthenics
>who are convinced they have "candida" from reading a quack book.
Speaking of which, has anyone else been impressed with how much the
descriptions of neurasthenia published a century ago sound like CFS?
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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4161 | From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: Cultural Enquiries
Organization: University College of Wales, Aberystwyth
Lines: 35
Nntp-Posting-Host: 144.124.112.30
In article <1pcl6i$e4i@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ravi@vanilla.WPI.EDU (Ravi Narayan) writes:
>In a previous article, groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu said:
>= azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) writes:
>=
>= >2) Why do they ride Harleys?
>=
>= 'cause we can.
>=
>
> you sure are lucky! i am told that there are very few people out
> there who can actually get their harley to ride ;-) (the name tod
> johnson jumps to the indiscreet mind... laz whats it you used to
> ride???).
>
>
>--
>----------_________----------_________----------_________----------_________
>sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one | Ravi Narayan, CS, WPI
> end and flames at the other. (C). | 89 SuzukiGS500E - Phaedra ;)
>__________---------__________---------__________---------__________---------
Hi, Ravi
If you need a Harley, we have lots to spare here. All the yuppies
bought 'the best' a couple of years ago to pose at the (s)wine
bar. They 'rode a mile and walked the rest'. Called a taxi home and
went back to the porsche. So there's are loads going cheap with about
1 1/2 miles on the clock (takes a while to coast to a halt).
Cheers
Andy
P.S. You get a better class of people on GS500's anyway
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4162 | From: jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald)
Subject: Re: plus minus stat
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Lines: 18
In article <1993Apr15.000256.24403@sol.UVic.CA> gballent@vancouver.UVic.CA writes:
>What it comes down to is that Jagr, despite being an arrogant asshole, is a
>very good hockey player who has had a better season this year than Ron Francis.
>Jagr has more points and a better +/-.
Jagr has a higher +/-, but Francis has had more points. And take it from
an informed observer, Ronnie Francis has had a *much* better season than
Jaromir Jagr. This is not to take anything away from Jaro, who had a
decent year (although it didn't live up to the expectations of some).
>Gregmeister
Dean
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dean J. Falcione "Badges? What badges? We
(using jrmst8 by permission Don't need no stinkin'
of the owner, Joe McDonald) badges!"
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4163 | From: chiu@io.nosc.mil (Francis Chiu)
Subject: Re: Guns GONE. Good Riddance !
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
Lines: 50
NNTP-Posting-Host: io.nosc.mil
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu wrote:
: You are loosing.
: There is no question about it.
: Of those who vote, your cause is considered an abomination. No matter
: how hard you try, public opinion is set against the RKBA.
Care to show some *real* numbers instead of something HCI make up?
I thought so, all "foaming at the mouth" shouting but nothing is
ever said...
: This is the end. By the finish of the Clinton administration, your
: RKBA will be null and void. Tough titty.
Well, we'll just have to wait and see about that, won't we? Or are
you quite satisified with living in your little fantasy?
< SNIP >
: cases of firearms abuses has ruined your cause. There is nothing you
< SNIP >
: The press is against you, the public (the voting public) is against
: you, the flow of history is against you ... this is it !
Not true, it is ONLY those who are ignorant and are afraid to understand,
accept, and deal with the real problems behind this violent society
who are proposing gun control as a band-aid solution. May be I should
refresh your memory with a quote from Prez. Clintion?
"It's the criminals, stupid!"
HEY, why is he cutting the budget for more prisons? May be someone need
to remind him of what he promised...on second thought, why bother...
: Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect
: them. Resistance is useless. They will overwhelm you - one at a time.
: Your neighbors will not help you. They will consider you more if an
: immediate threat than the abstract 'criminal'.
Oooh, WACO II, coming to your living room soon... When was the last
time you turned off your TV? Can't remember? I thought so...
: Too fucking bad. You have gone the way of the KKK. Violent solutions
: are passe'. Avoid situations which encourage criminals. Then you will
: be as safe as possible. Such as it is ...
Wait, I got it, this is a late April fool post, right? I didn't
think ANYBODY is stupid enough to post something like this...good one
guys, this group was getting boring without Holly and Susan.
--Francis Chiu, Professional Student, Programmer, Tax Payer.
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4164 | From: steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Hits Stolen -- Second Base 1992
Summary: Stolen Hits for all second basemen
Keywords: second defense
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Lines: 117
Disclaimer -- This is for fun.
In my computerized baseball game, I keep track of a category called
"stolen hits", defined as a play made that "an average fielder would not
make with average effort." Using the 1992 Defensive Averages posted
by Sherri Nichols (Thanks Sherri!), I've figured out some defensive stats
for the second basemen. Hits Stolen have been redefined as "Plays Kurt
Stillwell would not have made."
OK, I realize that's unfair. Kurt's probably the victim of pitching staff,
fluke shots, and a monster park factor. But let's put it this way: If we
replaced every second baseman in the NL with someone with Kurt's 57.6% out
making ability, how many extra hits would go by?
To try and correlate it to reality a little more, I've calculated Net
Hits Stolen, based on the number of outs made compared to what a league
average fielder would make. By the same method I've calculated Net Double
Plays, and Net Extra Bases (doubles and triples let by).
Finally, I throw all this into a a formula I call Defensive Contribution, or
DCON :->. Basically, it represents the defensive contribution of a player.
I add this number to OPS to get DOPS (Defense + Onbase Plus Slug), which
should represent the player's total contribution to the team. So don't
take it too seriously. The formula for DCON appears at the end of this
article.
The short version -- definition of terms
HS -- Hits Stolen -- Extra outs compared to Kurt Stillwell
NHS -- Net Hits Stolen -- Extra outs compared to average fielder
NDP -- Net Double Plays -- Extra double plays turned compared to avg fielder
NEB -- Net Extra Bases -- Extra bases prevented compared to avg. fielder
DCON -- Defensive Contribution -- bases and hits prevented, as a rate.
DOPS -- DCON + OPS -- quick & dirty measure of player's total contribution.
National League
name HS NHS NDP NEB DCON DOPS
Alicea, L. 50 21 2 -1 .160 .865
Sandberg, R. 108 42 1 1 .134 1.015
Thompson, R. 65 20 5 -1 .104 .852
Lind, J. 66 8 -2 1 .027 .571
Doran, B. 31 -1 4 0 .014 .705
DeShields, D. 51 1 -2 1 -.002 .755
Harris, L. 25 -4 0 1 -.019 .602
Lemke, M. 43 -1 -5 -5 -.038 .573
Morandini, M. 37 -9 -6 0 -.069 .580
Randolph, W. 13 -16 3 -1 -.088 .582
Biggio, C. 34 -26 -4 0 -.091 .656
Stillwell, K. 0 -43 -3 -1 -.236 .336
Ordered by DOPS
1.015 Sandberg
.865 Alicea
.852 Thompson
.755 DeShields
.705 Doran
.678 *NL Average*
.656 Biggio
.602 Harris
.582 Randolph
.580 Morandini
.573 Lemke
.571 Lind
.336 Stillwell
American League
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name HS NHS NDP NEB DCON DOPS
Fletcher, S. 59 18 5 1 .116 .811
Reed, J. 83 17 3 1 .071 .708
Ripken, B. 56 9 -1 -1 .044 .631
Baerga, C. 67 0 10 0 .029 .838
Blankenship, L. 34 2 2 1 .023 .757
Miller, K. 34 -4 1 -1 -.016 .725
Alomar, R. 62 4 -9 -2 -.020 .812
Knoblauch, C. 50 -13 7 -3 -.024 .718
Bordick, M. 37 -4 -2 -1 -.025 .704
Kelly, P. 42 -1 -5 -1 -.039 .636
Whitaker, L. 40 -8 -1 -2 -.041 .806
Reynolds, H. 47 -6 -5 1 -.043 .603
Sax, S. 56 -6 -9 -1 -.052 .555
Sojo, L. 28 -11 -3 0 -.075 .602
Order by DOPS
.838 Baerga
.812 Alomar
.811 Fletcher
.806 Whitaker
.757 Blankenship
.725 Miller
.718 Knoblauch
.708 Reed
.704 Bordick
.691 *AL Average*
.636 Kelly
.631 Ripken
.603 Reynolds
.602 Sojo
.555 Sax
More discussion --
DCON formula: ((NHS + NDP)/PA) + ((NHS + NDP + NEB)/AB)
Why such a bizzare formula? Basically, it's designed to be added into the
OPS, with the idea that "a run prevented is as important as a run scored".
The extra outs are factored into OBP, while the extra bases removed are
factored into SLG. That's why I used PA and AB as the divisors.
For more discussion see the post on Hits Stolen -- First Base 1992
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic
"It is considered good to look wise, especially when not
overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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4165 | From: gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: The [secret] source of that announcement
Lines: 19
Even more interesting: the SMTP server at csrc.ncsl.nist.gov no longer
recognizes the 'expn' and 'vrfy' commands...
telnet csrc.ncsl.nist.gov smtp
Trying 129.6.54.11...
Connected to csrc.ncsl.nist.gov.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 first.org sendmail 4.1/NIST ready at Tue, 20 Apr 93 17:01:34 EDT
expn clipper
500 Command unrecognized
Seems like sombody didn't like your snooping around, Marc.
Or mine. Or the dozen or so other people who probably had the same idea :-)
So does this rush to shut it down imply that some of the names on that
list *are* heavy-duty spooks? :-)))
G
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4166 | From: nfotis@ntua.gr (Nick C. Fotis)
Subject: (17 Apr 93) Computer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY [part 2/3]
Lines: 1023
Reply-To: nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr (Nick (Nikolaos) Fotis)
Organization: National Technical Univ. of Athens
Archive-name: graphics/resources-list/part2
Last-modified: 1993/04/17
Computer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY POSTING [ PART 2/3 ]
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Last Change : 17 April 1993
14. Plotting packages
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Gnuplot 3.2
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It is one of the best 2- and 3-D plotting packages, with
online help.It's a command-line driven interactive function plotting utility
for UNIX, MSDOS, Amiga, Archimedes, and VMS platforms (at least!).
Freely distributed, it supports many terminals, plotters, and printers
and is easily extensible to include new devices.
It was posted to comp.sources.misc in version 3.0, plus 2 patches.
You can practically find it everywhere (use Archie to find a site near you!).
The comp.graphics.gnuplot newsgroup is devoted to discussion of Gnuplot.
Xvgr and Xmgr (ACE/gr)
-----------------------
Xmgr is an XY-plotting tool for UNIX workstations using
X or OpenWindows. There is an XView version called xvgr for
Suns. Collectively, these 2 tools are known as ACE/gr.
Compiling xmgr requires the Motif toolkit version 1.1
and X11R4 - xmgr will not compile under X11R3/Motif 1.0x.
Check at ftp.ccalmr.ogi.edu [129.95.72.34} in
/CCALMR/pub/acegr/xmgr-2.09.tar.Z (Motif version)
/CCALMR/pub/acegr/xvgr-2.09.tar.Z (XView version)
Comments, suggestions, bug reports to Paul J Turner
<pturner@amb4.ese.ogi.edu> (if mail fails, try pturner@ese.ogi.edu).
Due to time constraints, replies will be few and far between.
Robot
-----
Release 0.45 : 2-D and limited 3-D. Based on XView 3, written
in C / Fortran (so you need a Fortran compiler or the f2c translator).
Mainly tested on Sun4, less on DECstations. Check at
ftp.astro.psu.edu (128.118.147.28), pub/astrod.
VG plotting library
-------------------
This is a library of Fortran callable routines at sunspot.ceee.nist.gov
[129.6.64.151]
Xgobi
-----
It's being developed at Bellcore, and its speciality are
multidimensional data sets analysis and exploration. You can call it
from the S language also, and it works as an X11 client using the Athena
widget set (or with an ASCII terminal). It's distributed free of charge
from STATLIB at CMU.
To get it via e-mail, send email to statlib@temper.stat.cmu.edu and
in the body area of the message, put the line
send xgobi from general
If you want to pick it via ftp, connect to lib.stat.cmu.edu. Log in as
"statlib" and use your e-mail address as your password. Then type
cd general
mget xgobi.*
Warning: It's about 2 MB sources + large Postscript manual. Read the
relevant README to decide whether you need it or not.
PGPLOT
------
Runs on VAX/VMS and supposedly on UNIX. It's a set of fortran routines freely
available (though copyrighted and requiring a nominal fee of $50 or so)
that includes contour plots and support for various devices, including ps.
Contact tjp@deimos.caltech.edu
GGRAPH
------
Host shorty.cs.wisc.edu [128.105.2.8] : /pub/ggraph.tar.Z
Unknown more details.
epiGRAPH
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For PCs. Call dvj@lab2.phys.lgu.spb.su (Vladimir J. Dmitriev) for details.
You can get the program demo or (and) play version, if sent 10 $ to
1251 Budapest posta fiok 60
Hungary
ph/fax 1753696 Budapest
ph 2017760
Multiplot XLN
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For Amigas, shareware ($30 USD, #20 UK or $40 Aust.). Advanced 2D package
that has a big list of features. Contact:
Dr. Alan Baxter <agb16@mbuc.bio.cam.ac.uk>,
Cambridge University
Department of Pathology,
Tennis Court Road,
Cambridge CB2 1QP, UK
+Athena Plotter Widget set
+-------------------------
+
+ This version V6.0 is based on Gregory Bond's version V5-beta. Added
+ some stuff for scientific graphs, i.e. log axes, free scalable axes,
+ XY-lineplots and some more, and re-added plotter callbacks from V4, e.g.
+ to request the current pointer position, or to cut off a rectangle from the
+ plotting area for zooming-in. Version V6.0 has a log of bugs fixed and a
+ log of improvements against V6-beta. Additionally I did some other
+ changes/extensions, besides
+
+ - Origin and frame lines for axes.
+ - Subgrid lines on subtic positions.
+ - Line plots in different line types (lines, points, lines+points,
+ impulses, lines+impulses, steps, bars), line styles (solid, dotted,
+ dashed, dot-dashed) and marker types for data points.
+ - Legend at the right or left hand side of the plot.
+ - Optional drawing to a pixmap instead of a window.
+ - Layout callback for aligning axis positions when using
+ multiple plotters in one application.
+
+ Available at export.lcs.mit.edu, directory contrib/plotter
+
+SciPlot
+-------
+ SciPlot is a scientific 2D plotting and manipulation program.
+ For the NeXT (requires NeXTStep 3.0), and it's shareware.
+
+ Features:
+ ASCII import and export; EPS export; copy, cut, paste with data buffer;
+ free number of data points, data buffer, and document window;
+ selective open and save ; plotting in many styles; automatic legend;
+ subviews; linear and logarithmic axes; two different axes; text and graphic;
+ color support; zoom; normalizing and moving; axis conversions;
+ free hand data manipulations (cut, edit, move, etc.); data editor; sorting
+ of data; absolute,relative, and free defined error bars;
+ calculating with buffers (+, -, *, / ); background subtractions
+ (linear,shirley,tougaard, bezier); integration and relative integration;
+ fitting of one or more free defined functions; linear regression;
+ calculations (+, -, *, /, sin, cos, log, etc.); function generator;
+ spline interpolation; least square smooth and FFT smooth; differentiation;
+ FFT; ESCA calculations and database; .. and something more
+
+ You can find it on:
+ ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.7] : /pub/NeXT/science/SciPlot3.1.tar.Z
+
+ Author:
+ Michael Wesemann
+ Scillerstr. 73,1000 Berlin 12, Germany
+ mike@fiasko.rz-berlin.mpg.de
+
+PLPLOT
+------
+ PLPLOT is a scientific plotting package for many systems, small (micro)
+ and large (super) alike. Despite its small size and quickness,
+ it has enough power to satisfy most users, including:
+ standard x-y plots, semilog plots, log-log plots, contour plots, 3D plots,
+ mesh plots, bar charts and pie charts. Multiple graphs (of the same or
+ different sizes) may be placed on a single page with multiple lines in each
+ graph. Different line styles, widths and colors are supported. A virtually
+ infinite number of distinct area fill patterns may be used. There are
+ almost 1000 characters in the extended character set. This includes four
+ different fonts, the Greek alphabet and a host of mathematical, musical, and
+ other symbols. The fonts can be scaled to any size for various effects.
+ Many different output device drivers are available (system dependent),
+ including a portable metafile format and renderer.
+
+ Freely available (but copyrighted) via anonymous FTP on
+ hagar.ph.utexas.edu, directory pub/plplot
+
+ At present (v. 4.13), PLPLOT is known to work on the following systems:
+
+ Unix: SunOS, A/IX, HP-UX, Unicos, DG/UX, Ultrix
+ Other platforms: VMS, Amiga/Exec, MS-DOS, OS/2, NeXT
+
+ Authors: Many. The main supporters are:
+
+ Maurice LeBrun <mjl@fusion.ph.utexas.edu>: PLPLOT kernel and the metafile,
+ xterm, xwindow, tektronix, and Amiga drivers.
+ Geoff Furnish <furnish@fusion.ph.utexas.edu>: MS-DOS and OS/2 drivers
+ Tony Richardson <amr@egr.duke.edu>: PLPLOT on the NeXT
+
+SuperMongo
+----------
+ 2-D plotting package at CMU, filename ~re00/tmp/SM.2.1.0.tar.Z
+ (probably under the ftp.cmu.edu or andrew.cmu.edu machines?)
+
+GLE
+---
+ GLE is a high quality graphics package for scientists. It runs on a
+ variety of platforms (PCs, VAXes, and Unix) with drivers for XWindows,
+ REGIS, TEK4010, PC graphics cards, VT100s, HP plotters, Postscript
+ printers, Epson-compatible printers and Laserjet/Paintjet printers. It
+ provides LaTEX quality fonts, as well as full support for Postscript
+ fonts. The graphing module provides full control over all features of
+ graphs. The graphics primitives include user-defined subroutines for
+ complex pictures and diagrams.
+
+ Accompanying utilities include Surface (for hidden line surface
+ plotting), Contour (for contour plots), Manip (for manipulation of
+ columnar data files), and Fitls (for fitting arbitrary equations to
+ data).
+
+ Mailing list: GLEList. Send a message to
+
+ listserver@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu, with a message boyd containing
+
+ sub glelist "Your Name"
+
+ maintainer: Dean Pentcheff <dean2@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu>
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15. Image analysis software - Image processing and display
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PC and Mac-based tools (multi-platform software)
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IMDISP
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IMDISP Written at JPL and other NASA sites. Can do simple display,
enhancing, smoothing and so on. Works with the FITS and VICAR/PDS
data formats of NASA. Can read TIFF images, if you know their dimensions
[PC and Macs]
LabVIEW 2
---------
LabVIEW is used as a framework for image processing tools. It provides a
graphical programming environment using block diagram sketch is the
"program" with graphical elements representing the programming elements.
Hundreds of functions are already available and are connected using a
wiring tool to create the block diagram (program). Functions that the
block diagrams represent include digital signal processing and
filtering, numerical analysis, statistics, etc. The tool allows any
Virtual Instrument (VI, a software file that looks and acts like a real
laboratory instrument) to be used as a part of any other virtual
instrument.
National Instruments markets plug-in digital signal processing (DSP)
boards for Macintoshs and PC compatables that allow real-time
acquisition and analysis at a personal computer. New software tools for
DSP are allowing engineers to harness the power of this technology. The
tools range from low-level debugging software to high-level block
diagram development software. There are three levels of DSP programming
associated with the NB-DSP2300 board and LabVIEW:
Use of the NB-DSP2300 Analysis Library: FFTs, power spectra, filters
routines callable from THINK C and Macintosh Programers Workshop (MPW) C
that execute on the NB-DSP2300 board. There is an analysis Virtual
Interface Library of ready-to-use VIs optimized for the NB-DSP2300.
Use of the National Instruments Developers Toolkit that includes an
optimizing C compiler, an assembler and a linker for low-level
programming of the DSP hardware. This approach offers the highest level
of performance but is the must difficult in terms of ease of use.
Use of the National Instruments Interface Kit software package which has
utility functions for memory management data communications and
downloading code to the NB-DSP2300 board. (This is the easiest route for
the development of custom code.)
Ultimage Concept VI
-------------------
Concept VI by Graftek-France is a family of image processing Virtual
Instruments (VIs) that give LabVIEW 2 (described above) users high-end
tools for designing, integrating and monitoring imaging control systems.
A VI is a software file that looks and acts like a real laboratory
instrument. Typical applications for Concept VI include thermography,
surveillance, machine vision, production testing, biomedical imaging,
electronic microscopy and remote sensing.
Ultimage Concept VI addresses applications which require further
qualitative and quantitative analysis. It includes a complete set of
functions for image enhancement, histogram equalization, spatial and
frequency filtering, isolation of features, thresholding, mathematical
morphology analysis, density measurement, object counting, sizing and
characterization.
The program loads images with a minimum resolution of 64 by 64, a pixel
depth of 8, 16, or 32 bits, and one image plane. Standard input and
output formats include PICT, TIFF, SATIE, and AIPD. Other formats can
be imported.
Image enhancement features include lookup table transformations, spatial
linear and non-linear filters, frequency filtering, arithmetic and logic
operations, and geometric transformations, among others. Morphological
transformations include erosion, dilation, opening, closing, hole
removal, object separation, and extraction of skeletons, among others.
Quantitative analysis provides for objects' detection, measurement, and
morphological distribution. Measures include area, perimeter, center of
gravity, moment of inertia, orientation, length of relevant chords, and
shape factors and equivalence. Measures are saved in ASCII format. The
program also provides for macro scripting and integration of custom
modules.
A 3-D view command plots a perspective data graph where image intensity
is depicted as mountains or valleys in the plot. The histogram tool can
be plotted with either a linear or logarithmic scale. The twenty-eight
arithmetic and logical operations provide for: masking and averaging
sections of images, noise removal, making comparisons, etc. There are
13 spatial filters that alter pixel intensities based on local
intensity. These include high-pass filters for contrast and outlines.
The frequency data resulting from FFT analysis can be displayed as
either the (real , imaginary ) components or the (phase, magnitude)
data. The morphological transformations are useful for data sharpening
and defining objects or for removing artifacts.
The transformations include: thresholding, eroding, dilating and even
hole filling.
The program's quantitative analysis measurements include: area,
perimeter, center of mass, object counts, and angle between points.
GTFS, Inc. 2455 Bennett Valley Road #100C Santa Rosa, CA 95494
707-579-1733
IPLab Spectrum
--------------
IPLAB Spectrum supports image processing and analysis but lacks the
morphology and quantitative analysis features provided by
Graftek-FranceUs Ultimage Concept VI. Using scripting tools, the user
tells the system the operations to be performed. The problem is that far
too many basic operations require manual intervention. The tool
supports: FFTs, 16 arithmetic operations for pixel alteration, and a
movie command for cycling through windows.
Macintosh-based tools
=====================
NCSA Image, NCSA PalEdit and more
---------------------------------
NCSA provides a whole suite of public-domain visualization tools for the
Macintosh, primarily aimed at researchers wanting to visualize results
from numerical modelling calculations. These applications,
documentation, and source code are available for anonymous ftp from
ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu. Commercial versions of the NCSA programs have been
developed by Spyglass.
Spyglass, Inc. 701 Devonshire Drive Champaign, IL 61820 (217) 355-6000
fax: 217 355 8925
NIH IMAGE
---------
Available at alw.nih.gov (128.231.128.7) or (preferably)
zippy.nimh.nih.gov [128.231.98.32], directory:/pub/image.
It has painting and image manipulation tools, a macro language,
tools for measuring areas, distances and angles, and for counting
things. Using a frame grabber card, it can record sequences of
images to be played back as a movie. It can invoke user-defined
convolution matrix filters, such as Gaussian. It can import raw
data in tab-delimited ASCII, or as 1 or 2-byte quantities. It also
does histograms and even 3-D plots. It is limited to 8-bits/pixel,
though the 8 bits map into a color lookup table. It runs on any Mac
that has a 256-color screen and a FPU (or get the NonFPU version
from zippy.nimh.nih.gov)
PhotoMac
--------
Data Translation, Inc. 100 Locke Dr. Marlboro, MA 01752 508-481-3700
PhotoPress
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Blue Solutions 3039 Marigold Place Thousand Oaks, CA 91360 805-492-9973
PixelTools and TCL-Image
------------------------
"Complete family of PixelTools (hardware accelerator and applications
software) for scientific image processing and analysis. Video-rate
capture, display, processing, and analysis of high-resolution
monochromatic and color images. Includes C source code."
TCL-Image:
"Software package for scientific, quantitative image processing and
analysis. It provides a complete language for the capture, enhancement,
and extraction of quantitative information from gray-scale images.
TCL_Image has over 200 functions for image processing, and contains the
other elements needed in a full programming language for algorithm
development -- variables and control structures. It is easily
extensible through "script" (or indirect command) files. These script
files are simply text files that contain TCL-Image commands. They are
executed as normal commands and include the ability to pass parameters.
The direct capture of video images is supported via popular frame
grabber boards. TCL-Image comes with the I-View utility that provides
conversion between common image file types, such as PICT2 and TIFF."
Perceptics 725 Pellissippi Parkway Knoxville, TN 37933 615-966-9200
Satellite Image Workshop
------------------------
It comes with a number of satellite pictures (raw data) and does all
sorts of image enhancing on it. You'll need at least a Mac II with co-
processor; a 256 color display and a large harddisk. The program doesn't
run under system 7.x.ATE1 V1
In the documentation the contact address is given as: Liz Smith, Jet
Propulsion Laboratory, MS 300-323, 4800 Oak Grove Dr,.Pasadena, CA 91109
(818) 354-6980
Visualization Workbench
-----------------------
"An electronic imaging software system that performs interactive image
analysis and scientific 2D and 3D plotting."
Paragon Imagine 171 Lincoln St. Lowell, MA 01852 508-441-2112
Adobe Photoshop
---------------
The tool supports Rtrue colorS with 24-bit images or 256 levels of grey
scale. Once an image has been imported it can be Rre-touchedS with
various editing tools typical of those used in Macintosh-based RpaintS
applications. These include an eraser, pencil, brush and air brush.
Advanced RpasteS tools that control the interaction between a pasted
selection and the receiving site have also been incorporated. For
example, all red pixels in a selection can easily be preventing from
being pasted. Photoshop has transparencies ranging from 0 to 100%,
allowing you to create ghost overlays. RPhoto-editingS tools include
control of the brightness and contrast, color balancing, hue/saturation
modification and spectrum equalization. Images can be subjected to
various signal processing algorithms to smooth or sharpen the image,
blur edges, or locate edges. Image scaling is also supported.
For storage savings, the images can be compressed using standard
algorithms, including externally supplied compression such as JPEG,
availlable from Storm Technologies. The latest version of Adobe
Photoshop supports the import of numerous image formats including: EPSF,
EPSF, TIFF, PICT resource, Amiga IFF/ILBM, CompuServe GIF, MacPaint,
PIXAR, PixelPaint, Scitex CT, TGA and ThunderScan..
Adobe Systems, Inc. 1585 Charlestown Road PO Box 7900 Mountain View, CA
94039-7900 415-961-4400
ColorStudio and ImageStudio
---------------------------
ColorStudio is an image-editing and paint package from Letraset that has
more features than Adobe Photoshop but is decidedly more complex and
therefore more difficult to use. Several steps are often required to
accomplish that which can be done in a single step using Photoshop. The
application requires a great deal of available disk space as one can
easily end up with images in the 30 MB range. The program provides a
variety of powerful selection tools including the "auto selection tool"
which lets the user choose image areas on the basis of color, close
hues, color range and mask.
ImageStudio: Don't know...
Letraset USA 40 Eisenhower Drive Paramus, NJ 07653 201-845-6100
Dapple Systems
--------------
"High resolution image analysis software provides processing tools to
work with multiple images, enhance and edit, and measure a variety of
global or feature parameters, and interpret the data."
Dapple Systems, 355 W. Olive Ave, #100 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 408-733-3283
Digital Darkroom
----------------
The latest release of Digital Darkroom has five new selection and
editing tools for enhancing images. One such feature allows the user to
select part of an image simply by "painting" it. A new polyline
selection tool creates a selection tool for single pixel wide
selections. A brush lets the operator "paint" with a selected portion
of the image. Note that this is not a true color image enhancement tool.
This tool should be used when the user intends to operate in grey-scale
images only. It should be noted that Digital Darkroom is not as
powerful as either Adobe Photoshop or ColorStudio.
Silicon Beach Software 9770 Carroll Ctr. Rd., Suite J San Diego, CA
92126 619-695-6956
Dimple
------
It is compatible with system 6.05 and system 7.0 , requires Mac LC or
II series with 256 colours, with a recommended min of 6Mb of ram. It has
the capability of reading Erdas files. Functions include; image
enhancement, 3D and contour plots, image statistics, supervised and
unsupervised classification, PCA and other image transformations. There
is also a means (Image Operation Language or IOL) by which you can write
your own transformations. There is no image rectification, however
Dimple is compatable with MAPII. The latest version is 1.4 and it is in
the beta stage of testing. Dimple was initially developed as a teaching
tool and it is very good for this purpose."
"Dimple runs on a colour Macintosh. It is a product still in its
development phase.. i.e. it doesn't have all the inbuilt features of
other packages, but is coming along nicely. It has its own inbuilt
language for writing "programs" for processing an image, defining
convolution filters etc. Dimple is a full mac application with pull down
menus etc... It is unprotected software."
Process Software Solutions, PO Box 2110, Wollongong, New South Wales,
Australia. 2500. Phone 61 42 261757 Fax 61 42 264190.
Enhance
-------
Enhance has a RrulerS tool that supports measurements and additionally
provides angle data. The tool has over 80 mathematical filter
variations: "Laplacian, medium noise filter", etc. Files can be saved
as either TIFF, PICT, EPSF or text (however EPSF files can't be imported).
MicroFrontier 7650 Hickman Road Des Moines, IA 50322 515-270-8109
Image Analyst
-------------
An image processing product for users who need to extract quantitative
data from video images. Image Analyst lets users configure
sophisticated image processing and measurement routines without the
necessity of knowing a programming language. It is designed for such
tasks at computing number and size of cells in images projected by video
cameras attached to microscopes, or enhancing and measuring distances in
radiographs.
Image Analyst provides users with an array of field-proven video
analysis techniques that enable them to easily assemble a sequence of
instructions to enhance feature appearance; count objects; determine
density, shape, size, position, or movement; perform object feature
extraction; and conduct textural analysis automatically. Image Analyst
works with either a framegrabber board and any standard video camera, or
a disk-stored image.
Within minutes, without the need for programming, the Image Analyst user
can set up a process to identify and analyze any element of a image.
Measurements and statistics can be automatically or semi-automatically
generated from TIFF or PICT files or from captured video tape images.
Image Analyst recognizes items in images based on their size, shape and
position. The tool provides direct support for the Data Translation and
Scion frame grabbers. A menu command allows for image capture from a VCR
video camera or other NTSC or PAL devices.
There are 2 types of files, the image itself and the related Sequence
file that holds the processing, measurements and analysis that the user
defines. Automated sequences are set up in Regions Of Interest (ROI)
represented by movable, sizable boxes atop the image. Inside a ROI, the
program can find the distance between two edges, the area of a shape,
the thickness of a wall, etc. Image Analyst finds the center, edge and
other positions automatically. The application also provides tools so
that the user can work interactively to find the edge of object. It also
supports histograms and a color look-up table (CLUT) tool.
Automatix, Inc. 775 Middlesex Turnpike Billerica, MA 01821 508-667-7900
IPLab
-----
Signal Analytics Corp. 374 Maple Ave. E Vienna, VA 22180 703-281-3277
FAX 703-281-2509
"Menu-driven image processing software that supports 24-bit color or
pseudocolor/grayscale image display and manipulation."
MAP II
------
Among the Mac GIS systems, MAP II distributed by John Wiley has
integrated image analysis.
IMAGE
-----
from Stanford : Try anonymous ftp from sumex-aim.stanford.edu
It has pd source for image v2, and ready to run code for a mac under
image v3.
Windows/DOS PC-based tools
==========================
CCD
---
Richard Berry's CCD imaging book for Willamon-Bell contains (optional?)
disks with image manipulating software. Source code is included.
ERDAS
-----
"ERDAS will do all of the things you want: rectification,
classification, transformations (canned & user-defined), overlays,
filters, contrast enhancement, etc. ... I was using it on my thesis &
then changed the topic a bit & that work became secondary."
ERDAS, Inc. 2801 Buford Highway Suite 300 Atlanta, GA 30329 404-248-9000
FAX 404-248-9400
RSVGA
-----
"I have been getting up to speed on a program called RSVGA available from
Eidetic Digital Image Ltd. in British Columbia. Its for IBM PC's or
clones, cheap (about $400) and does all the stuff Erdas does but is not
as fast or as powerful, though I have had only limited experience with
Erdas. I have used RSVGA with 6 of 7 Landsat bands and it is a good
starter program except for the obtuse manual"
IMAGINE-32
----------
It's a 32 bit package [I suppose for PCs] called "Imagine32"
or "Image32" The program does a modest amount of image processing --add,
subtract, multiply, divide, display, and plot an x or y cut across the image.
It can also display a number of images simultaneously.
The company is CompuScope, in Santa Barbara, CA.
PC Vista
--------
It was announced in the 1989 August edition of PASP. It is known to
be available from Mike Richmond, whose email addresses have been
richmond@bllac.berkeley.edu
richmond@bkyast.berkeley.edu
and his s-mail address is:
Michael Richmond,Astronomy Department, Campbell Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
The latest version of PC-Vista, version 1.7, includes not only the source
code and help files, but also a complete set of executable programs and
a number of sample FITS images. If you do wish to use the source code,
you will need Microsoft C, version 5.0 or later; other compilers may work,
but will require substantial modifications.
To receive the documentation and nine double-density (360K) floppies
(or three quad-density 3-1/2 inch floppies (1.44M) with everything on them,
just send a request for PC-Vista, together with your name and a US-Mail
address, to
Office of Technology Licensing
2150 Shattuck Ave., Suite 510
Berkeley, Ca. 94704
Include a check (Traveller's Checks are fine) or purchase order for $150.00
in U.S. dollars, if your address is inside the continental U.S., or $165.00
otherwise, made out to Regents of the University of California
to cover duplication and mailing costs.
SOFTWARE TOOLS
--------------
It's a set of software "tools" put out by Canyon State
Systems and Software. They are not free, but rather cheap at about $30 I
heard. It will handle most all of the formats used by frame grabber
software.
MIRAGE
------
It's image processing software written by Jim Gunn at the
Astrophysics Dept at Princeton. It will run on a PC among other platforms.
It is a Forth based system - i.e. a Forth language with many image
processing displaying functions built in.
DATA TRANSLATION SOURCE BOOK
----------------------------
The Data Translation company in Massachusetts publishes a free book
containing vendors of data analysis hardware and software which is
compatible with Data Translation and other frame grabbers.
Surely you can find much more PC-related stuff in it.
MAXEN386
--------
A couple of Canadians have written a program named MAXEN386 which does
maximum entropy image deconvolution. Their company is named Digital
Signal Processing Software, or something like that, and the software is
mentioned in an article in Astronomy Magazine, either Jan or Feb 92
(an article on CCD's vs film).
JANDEL SCIENTIFIC (JAVA)
------------------------
Another software package (JAVA) is put out by Jandel Scientific.
Jandel Scientific, 65 Koch Road, Corte Madera, CA 94925, (415) 924-8640,
(800) 874-1888.
Microbrian
----------
Runs on an MS dos platform and uses a 32 bit graphics card
(Vista), or an about to be released version will support a number of
super VGA cards. Its a full blown remote sensed data processing
system.. It is menu driven (character based screen), but is does not use
a windowed user interface. Its is hardware protected with a dongle.
Mbrian = micro Barrier reef Image Anaysis System. It was developed by
CSIRO (Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial Organization) and is
marketed/ supported by:
MPA Australia (51 Lusher Road, Croydon, Victoria
tel + 61 3 724 4488 fax +61 3 724 4455)
There are educational and commercial prices, but be prepared to set
aside $A10k for the first educational licence. Subsequent ones come
cheaper (they need to!) It has installed sites worldwide. It is widely
used at ANU.
MicroImage
----------
The remote sensing lab here at Dartmouth currently uses Terra-Mar's
MicroImage, on 486 PCs with some fancy display hardware.
Terra-Mar Resource Information Services, Inc.
1937 Landings Drive Mountain View, CA 94043 415-964-6900 FAX
415-964-5430
Unix-based tools
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IRAF (Image Reduction and Analysis Facility)
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Developed in the National Optical Astronomy Observatory, Kitt Peak AZ
It is free, you can ftp it from tucana.noao.edu [140.252.1.1]
and complement it with STSDAS from stsci.edu [130.167.1.2].
Email to iraf@noao.edu for more details.
Apparently this is one of the _de facto_ standards in the astronomical
image community. They issue a newsletter also.
They seem to support very well their users. Works with VMS also last
I heard, and practically has its own shell on top of the VMS/Unix shells.
It's suggested that you get a copy of saoimage for display under X windows.
Very flexible/extendable -- tons (literally 3 linear feet) of
documentation for the general user, skilled user, and programmer.
ALV
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A Sun-specific image toolkit. Version 2.0.6 posted to
comp.sources.sun on 11dec89. Also available via email to
alv-users-request@cs.bris.ac.uk.
AIPS
----
Astronomical Image Processing System. Contact: aipsmail@nrao.edu
(also see the UseNet Newsgroups alt.sci.astro.aips and sci.astro.fits)
Built by NRAO (National Radio Astronomy Observatory, HQ in Charlottesville,
VA, sites in NM, AZ, WV). Software distributed by 9-track, Exabyte, DAT,
or (non-anonymous) internet ftp. Documentation (PostScript mostly)
available via anonymous ftp to baboon.cv.nrao.edu (192.33.115.103),
directory pub/aips and pub/aips/TEXT/PUBL. Installation requires building
the system and thus a Fortran and C compiler.
This package can read and write FITS data (see sci.astro.fits), and is
primarily for reduction, analysis, and image enhancement of Radio Astronomy
data from radio telescopes, particularly the Very Large Array (VLA), a
synthesis instrument. It consists of almost 300 programs that do everything
from copying data to sophisticated deconvolution, e.g. via maximum entropy.
There is an X11-based Image tool (XAS) and a tek-compatible xterm-based
graphics tool built into AIPS. The XAS tool is modelled after the hardware
functionality of the International Imaging Systems model 70 display unit and
can do image arithmetic, etc.
The code is mostly Fortran 77 with some system C language modules, and is
available for Suns, IBM RS/6000, Dec/Ultrix, Convex, Cray (Unicos), and
Alliant with support planned for HP-9000/7xx, Solaris 2.1, and maybe SGI.
There is currently a project - "AIPS++" - underway to rewrite the
algorithmic functionality of AIPS in a modern setting, using C++ and an
object oriented approach. Whereas AIPS is proprietary code (licensed for
free to non-profit institutions) owner by NRAO and the NSF, AIPS++ will be
in the public domain at some level, as it is an international effort with
contributions from the US, Canada, England, the Netherlands, India, and
Australia to name a few.
LABOimage
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(version 4.0 is out for X11) It's written in C, and currently
runs on Sun 3/xxx, Sun 4/xxx (OS3.5, 4.0 and 4.0.3) under SunView.
The expert system for image segmentation is written in Allegro Common Lisp.
It was used on the following domains: computer science (image analysis),
medicine, biology, physics. It is distributed free of charge (source code).
Available via anonymous FTP at ftp.ads.com (128.229.30.16), in
pub/VISION-LIST-ARCHIVE/SHAREWARE/LaboImage_*
Contact: Prof. Thierry Pun, Computer Vision Group Computing Science Center,
U-Geneva 12, rue du Lac, CH-1207 Geneva SWITZERLAND
Phone : +41(22) 787 65 82; fax: +41(22) 735 39 05
E-mail: pun@cui.unige.ch or pun@cgeuge51.bitnet
Figaro
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It was originally made for VMS, and can be obtained from
Keith Shortridge in Australia (ks@aaoepp.aao.gov.au)
and for Unix from Sam Southard at Caltech (sns@deimos.caltech.edu).
It's about 110Mbytes on a Sun.
KHOROS
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Moved to the Scientific Visualization category below
Vista
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The "real thing" is available via anonymous ftp from lowell.edu. Email to
vista@lowell.edu for more details. Total size less than 20Mbytes.
DISIMP
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(Device Independent Software for Image Processing) is a powerful
system providing both user friendliness and high functionality in
interactive times.
Feature Description
DISIMP incorporates a rich library of image processing utilities and
spatial data options. All functions can be easily accessed via the
DISIMP executive. This menu is modular in design and groups image
processes by their function. Such a logical structure means that
complicated processes are simply a progression through a series of
modules.
Processes include image rectification, classification (unsupervised and
supervised), intensity transformations, three dimensional display and
Principal Component Analysis. DISIMP also supports the more simple and
effective enhancement techniques of filtering, band subtraction and
ratioing.
Host Configuration Requirements
Running on UNIX workstations, DISIMP is capable of processing the more
computational intensive techniques in interactive processing times.
DISIMP is available in both Runtime and Programmer's environments. Using
the Programmers environment, utilities can be developed for specific
applications programs.
Graphics are governed by an icon-based Display Panel which allows quick
enhancments of a displayed image. Manipulations of Look Up Tables,
colour stretches, changes to histograms, zooming and panning can be
interactively driven through this control.
A range of geographic projections enables DISIMP to integrate data of
image, graphic and textual types. Images can be rectified by a number of
coordinate systems, providing the true geographic knowledge essential
for ground truthing. Overlays of grids, text and vector data can be
added to further enhance referenced imagery.
The system is a flexible package allowing users of various skill levels
to determine their own working environment, including the amount of help
required. DISIMP comes fully configured with no optional extras. The
purchase price includes all functionality required for professional
processing of remote sensed data.
For further information, please contact:
The Business Manager, CLOUGH Engineering Group Systems Division, 627
Chapel Street, South Yarra, Australia 3141. Telephone: +61 3 825 5555
Fax: +61 3 826 6463
Global Imaging Software
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"We use Global Imaging Software to process AVHRR data, from the dish to
the final display. Select a chunk of five band data from a pass,
automatic navigation, calibrate it to Albedo and Temp, convert that to
byte, register it to predesigned window, all relatively automatically
and carefree.
It has no classification routines to speak of, but it isn't that
difficult to write your own with their programmer's module.
Very small operation: one designs, one codes, one sells. Been around for
a number of years, sold to Weather Service and Navy. Runs on HP9000
with HP-UX. Supports 24-bit display"
HIPS
----
(Human Information Processing Laboratory's Image Processing System)
Michael Landy co-wrote and sell a general-purpose package for image
processing which has been used for basically all the usual image
processing applications (robotics, medical, satellite, engineering, oil
exploration, etc.). It is called HIPS, and deals with sequences of
multiband images in the same way it deals with single images. It has
been growing since we first wrote it, both by additions from us as well
as a huge user-contributed library.
Feature description
HIPS is a set of image processing modules which together provide
a powerful suite of tools for those interested in research,
system development and teaching. It handles sequences of images
(movies) in precisely the same manner as single frames.
Programs and subroutines have been developed for simple image
transformations, filtering, convolution, Fourier and other transform
processing, edge detection and line drawing manipulation, digital
image compression and transmission methods, noise generation, and image
statistics computation. Over 150 such image transformation programs
have been developed. As a result, almost any image processing task
can be performed quickly and conveniently. Additionally, HIPS allows
users to easily integrate their own custom routines. New users
become effective using HIPS on their first day.
HIPS features images that are self-documenting. Each image stored in
the system contains a history of the transformations that have been
applied to that image. HIPS includes a small set of subroutines
which primarily deals with a standardized image sequence header, and
a large library of image transformation tools in the form of UNIX
``filters''. It comes complete with source code, on-line manual
pages, and on-line documentation.
Host Configuration Requirements
Originally developed at New York University, HIPS now represents
one of the most extensive and flexible vision and image processing
environments currently available. It runs under the UNIX operating
system. It is modular and flexible, provides automatic documentation
of its actions, and is almost entirely independent of special equipment.
HIPS is now in use on a variety of computers including Vax and
Microvax, Sun, Apollo, Masscomp, NCR Tower, Iris, IBM AT, etc.
For image display and input, drivers are supplied for the Grinnell and
Adage (Ikonas) image processors, and the Sun-2, Sun-3, Sun- 4, and
Sun-386i consoles. We also supply user-contributed drivers for a
number of other framestores and windowing packages (Sun gfx, Sun
console, Matrox VIP-1024, ITI IP-512, Lexidata, Macintosh II, X
windowing system, and Iris). The Hipsaddon package includes an
interface for the CRS-4000. It is a simple matter to interface HIPS
with other frame- stores, and we can put interested users in touch with
users who have interfaced HIPS with the Arlunya and Datacube Max-
Video. HIPS can be easily adapted for other image display devices
because 98% of HIPS is machine independent.
Availability
HIPS has proven itself a highly flexible system, both as an
interactive research tool, and for more production- oriented tasks. It
is both easy to use, and quickly adapted and extended to new uses. HIPS
is supplied on magnetic tape in UNIX tar format (either reel- to-reel or
Sun cartridge), and comes with source code, libraries, a library of
convolu- tion masks, and on-line documentation and manual pages.
Michael Landy SharpImage Software P.O. Box 373, Prince Street Station
New York, NY 10012-0007 Voice: (212) 998-7857 Fax: (212) 995-4011
msl@cns.nyu.edu
MIRA
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[ Please DON'T confuse that with the Thalmanns animation system from
Montreal. These are altogether different beasts! - nfotis ]
MIRA stands for Microcomputer Image Reduction and Analysis. MIRA gives
workstation level performance on 386/486 DOS computers using SVGA cards in
256 color modes up to 1024x768. MIRA contains a very handsome/functional
GUI which is mouse and keystroke operated. MIRA reads/writes TIFF and FITS
formats, native formats of a number of CCD cameras, and uncompressed binary
images in byte, short integer, and 4-byte real pixel format in 1- or 2-
dimensions. The result of an image processing operation can be short integer
or real pixels, or the same as that of the input image. MIRA does the
operation using short or floating point arithmetic to maintain the precision
and accuracy of the pixel format. Over 100 functions are hand-coded in
assembly language for maximum speed on the Intel hardware. The entire
graphical interface is also written in assembly language to maximize
the speed of windowing operations. Windows for 2-d image and 1-d image/data
display and analysis have dedicated cursors which read position and value
value in real time as you move the mouse. There are also smooth, real time
contrast and brightness stretch and panning of a magnified portion of
the displayed image(s), all operated by the mouse. A wide selection of
grayscale, pseudocolor, and random palettes is provided, and other
palettes can be generated.
Supported functions include such niceties as the following:
o image & image: + - / * interpolation
o image & constant: + - / *
o unary operations: abs value, polynomial of pixel value, chs, 1/x, log,
byteswap, clip values at upper/lower limits, short->real or real->short.
o combine images by mean, median, mode, or sum of pixel values, with or
without autoscaling to mean, median, or mode of an image section.
o convolutions/filters: Laplacian, Sobel edge operator, directional gradient,
line, Gaussian, elliptical and rectangular equal weight filters, unsharp
masking, median filters, user defined filter kernel. Ellipse, rectangle,
line, gradient, Gaussian, and user defined filters can be rotated to
any specified angle.
o CCD data reduction: flat fielding, dark subtraction, column over/underscan
bias removal, remove bad pixels and column defects, normalize to
region target mean, median, or modal value.
o create subimage, mosaic m x n 1-d or 2-d images to get larger image,
collapse 2-d image into 1-d image.
o plot 1-d section or collapsed section of 2-d image, plot histogram of
region of an image.
o review/change image information/header data, rename keywords, plot
keyword values for a set of images.
o luminance/photometry: elliptical or circular aperture photometry,
brightness profile, isophotal photometry between set of upper & lower
luminances, area and luminance inside traced polygon. Interactive
background fitting and removal from part or all of image, fit elliptical
aperture shape to image isophotes.
o interactive with 2-d image: contrast/brightness, x- y- or diagonal plot
of pixel values, distance between two points, compute region stats,`
centroid, pan to x,y location or image center, zoom 1/16 to 10 times,
change cursor to rectangle crosshair, full image crosshair, or off, and
adjust cursor size on image. Select linear, log or gamma transfer function
or histogram equalization.
o interactive or specified image offset computation and re-sampling for
registration.
o interactive with 1-d image: zoom in x- y- or both in steps of 1/2 or
2 times current, re-center plot, or enlarge a framed area. 4 plot buffers
can be cycled through. Interactive data analysis: polynomial fitting,
point deletion, undelete, change value, point weighting, linear and
quadratic loess and binomial smoothing, revert to unit point weights
or original data buffer, substitute results into data buffer for pass
back to calling function. Dump data buffer (+ overlays and error bars)
to file or printer. Change to user specified coordinate system.
o Tricolor image combination and display, hardcopy halftone printout to
HP-PCL compatible printers (Laserjet, deskjet, etc.)
o Documentation is over 300 pages in custom vinyl binder.
Cost: 995 $USD/copy
Available from:
Axiom Research, Inc.
Box 44162
Tucson, AZ 85733
(602) 791-2864 phone/fax.
international marketing rep: Saguaro Scientific Corporation, Tucson, Arizona.
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End of Part 2 of the Resource Listing
--
Nick (Nikolaos) Fotis National Technical Univ. of Athens, Greece
HOME: 16 Esperidon St., InterNet : nfotis@theseas.ntua.gr
Halandri, GR - 152 32 UUCP: mcsun!ariadne!theseas!nfotis
Athens, GREECE FAX: (+30 1) 77 84 578
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4167 | From: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
Reply-To: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Organization: Edinburgh University
Lines: 11
Quoting pla@sktb.demon.co.uk in article <8AOHOnj024n@sktb.demon.co.uk>:
>You have every reason to be scared shitless. Take a look at the records
>of McCarthy, Hoover (J. Edgar, not the cleaner - though they both excelled at
>sucking) and Nixon.
History does not record whether J. Edgar Hoover was any good at sucking.
As for the cleaners, I'll stick with my 850W Electrolux and damn the
carpet.
__ _____
\/ o\ Paul Crowley pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk \\ //
/\__/ Trust me. I know what I'm doing. \X/ Fold a fish for Jesus!
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4168 | Subject: VHS movie for sale
From: koutd@hirama.hiram.edu (DOUGLAS KOU)
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-Host: hirama.hiram.edu
Lines: 13
VHS movie for sale.
Dance with Wovies ($12.00)
The tape is new and just open, buyer pay shipping cost.
If you are interested, please send your offer to
koutd@hirama.hiram.edu
thanks,
Douglas Kou
Hiram College
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4169 | From: mmchugh@andy.bgsu.edu (michael mchugh)
Subject: Pink Floyd 45 rpm singles for sale
Keywords: Pink Floyd rpm singles
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Lines: 17
I have the following 45 rpm singles for sale. Most are collectable 7-inch
records with picture sleeves. Price does not include postage which is $1.21
for the first record, $1.69 for two, etc.
Pink Floyd|Learning to Fly (Columbia Promo/Picture Sleeve)|$5
Waters, Roger|Sunset Strip (Columbia Promo/Picture Sleeve)|$10
Waters, Roger|Sunset Strip (Columiba Promo)|$5
Waters, Roger|Who Needs Information (Columiba Promo)|$10
If you are interested, please contact:
Michael McHugh
mmchugh@andy.bgsu.edu
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4170 | From: JEK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: Watt misquoted
Lines: 30
heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath) writes:
> I realize I'm entering this discussion rather late, but I do
> have one question. Wasn't it a Reagan appointee, James Watt, a
> pentacostal christian (I think) who was the secretary of the
> interior who saw no problem with deforestation since we were
> "living in the last days" and ours would be the last generation
> to see the redwoods anyway?
For the Record:
On February 5, 1981, at a House of Representatives
Interior Committee Meeting, Rep. James Weaver (D, Ore), asked Watt
whether "you agree that we should save some of our scenic resources
for our children, not just gobble them up all at once?" Watt's
answer was:
< Absolutely. That is the delicate balance the Secretary of the
< Interior must have -- to be steward for the natural resources
< for this generation as well as future generations. I do not
< know how many future generations we can count on before the
< Lord returns. Whatever it is, we have to manage with a skill
< to have the resources needed for future generations.
My source is a column by Rowland Evans and Robert Novak on the
op-ed page of the WASHINGTON POST for Friday 21 August 1981.
Yours,
James Kiefer
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4171 | From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis)
Subject: realizing colours/win.ini setting changes to "y" automatically:
Organization: George Washington University
Lines: 32
Mornin' all. I was wonderin'.....
I got screenpeace (the screensaver, which I think is *very*
good), and I got a problem with it...
There is an option there, "realize colour table", and if it's
switched on, some wallpapers' colours will get *ucked up with
some screensavers (e.g. the "flashlight" one). If I turn it off,
however, it works well, and it's faster, so I have it off. All's
nice and well. However, If I turn it off, then it will be on
again next time I start windows. All the setting are set in the
win.ini file, and I *do* have "save settings on exit" selected.
also, I tried manually changing the setting in the win.ini file
to "n" (for no-->realize colour table), and started windows. It
will be fine for that session, but the next session will *again*
turn the option on.
I tried adding a +R (read-only) attribute to my win.ini file, and
it worked, but my bitmap (wallpaper) saver didn't work then.
Actually, it's the same application. Anywya, it didn't work,
since it must change the setting at the win.ini file.
so anyone out there got any answers/suggesions/comments for me?
thanks, i.a.
Mickey
aka mp
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ace|| || ...!uunet!seas.gwu.edu!louray
|||| \/| *how do make a ms-windows .grp file reflect a HD directory??*
\\\\ | "well I ain't always right, but I've never been wrong.."(gd)
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4172 | From: tdunbar@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
Subject: Re: X Toolkits
Summary: Get the Athena 3D widget set
Distribution: inet
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA
Lines: 9
NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu
libXaw3d, the 3D Athena widget set will greatly improve the
"sculptured" look. In Linux, with its shared, jump-table libs, you
don't even have to recompile or relink. you merely have to:
ln -sf /lib/libXaw3d.so.3.0 /lib/libXaw.so.3
thomas
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4173 | From: rh@smds.com (Richard Harter)
Subject: Re: Rawlins debunks creationism
Reply-To: rh@ishmael.UUCP (Richard Harter)
Organization: Software Maintenance & Development Systems, Inc.
Lines: 79
In article <1993Apr15.223844.16453@rambo.atlanta.dg.com> wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes:
> We are talking about origins, not merely science. Science cannot
> explain origins. For a person to exclude anything but science from
> the issue of origins is to say that there is no higher truth
> than science. This is a false premise. By the way, I enjoy science.
> It is truly a wonder observing God's creation. Macroevolution is
> a mixture of 15 percent science and 85 percent religion [guaranteed
> within three percent error :) ]
Let us explore this interesting paragraph point by point, sentence by
sentence.
1) We are talking about origins, not merely science.
Origins of what? Are we speaking of the origins of life, the human
species, the universe, physical law, biological diversity or what?
2) Science cannot explain origins.
This is a false statement unless it is carefully qualified. It depends
on what origins we are talking about.
3) For a person to exclude anything but science from the issue of origins
is to say that there is no higher truth than science.
Again, this is a false statement. To begin with, the notion of "higher
truth" is distinctly dubious. Many people believe that there are ways
to ascertain truth that are not in the repetoire of science; they even
believe that there are ways that are more reliable and certain. Many
believe that there are truths that cannot be expressed using the language
of science. Let it be so. These truths are neither "higher" or
"lower"; they are simply true.
More to the point, restricting one's discussion of origins to science
does not reject other sources of knowledge; it simply restricts the
scope of discussion.
4) This is a false premise.
If this is intended as asserting that the previous sentence was false
then (4) is actually true. However the context identifies it as another
false [or at least theologically unsound] statement.
5) By the way, I enjoy science.
On the evidence Mr. Rawlins lacks sufficient understanding of science
to enjoy science in any meaningful sense. One might just as well say
that one enjoys literature written in a language that one cannot read.
However one cannot mark this sentence as false -- to follow the analogy,
perhaps he likes the pretty shapes of the letters.
6) It is truly a wonder observing God's creation.
Let us not quibble; count this one as true.
7) Macroevolution is a mixture of 15 percent science and 85 percent
religion [guaranteed within three percent error :) ]
Still another false statement. However one can make it come out true
with the following contextual modification:
"Macroevolution, as misunderstood by Rawline, is a mixture of 15 percent
of what Rawlins erroneously thinks of as science, and 85 percent of
what Rawlins erroneously thinks of as religion."
-----
It is distinctly noticeable that Mr. Rawlins fails miserably to touch
on truth except when he reports personally on what he feels. [I do
him the justice of assuming that he is not misinforming us as to his
personal reactions.] One can account for this by the hypothesis that
he has an idiosyncratic and personal concept of truth.
--
Richard Harter: SMDS Inc. Net address: rh@smds.com Phone: 508-369-7398
US Mail: SMDS Inc., PO Box 555, Concord MA 01742. Fax: 508-369-8272
In the fields of Hell where the grass grows high
Are the graves of dreams allowed to die.
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4174 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: "CAN'T BREATHE"
Article-I.D.: pitt.19440
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 23
In article <1993Mar29.204003.26952@tijc02.uucp> pjs269@tijc02.uucp (Paul Schmidt) writes:
>I think it is important to verify all procedures with proper studies to
>show their worthiness and risk. I just read an interesting tidbit that
>80% of the medical treatments are unproven and not based on scientific
>fact. For example, many treatments of prostate cancer are unproven and
>the treatment may be more dangerous than the disease (according to the
>article I read.)
Where did you read this? I don't think this is true. I think most
medical treatments are based on science, although it is difficult
to prove anything with certitude. It is true that there are some
things that have just been found "to work", but we have no good
explanation for why. But almost everything does have a scientific
rationale. The most common treatment for prostate cancer is
probably hormone therapy. It has been "proven" to work. So have
radiation and chemotherapy. What treatments did the article say
are not proven?
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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4175 | From: bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner)
Subject: Re: Is Morality Constant (was Re: Biblical Rape)
Nntp-Posting-Host: okcforum.osrhe.edu
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Lines: 65
Jim Perry (perry@dsinc.com) wrote:
: }Xenophobia, both *de facto* and *de jure* as implemented
: }in legal systems, is widespread, while the Bible,
: }although not 100% egalitarian, specifically preaches
: }kindness to the stranger, and emphasizes in the Book
: }of Ruth, that a foreigner can join the nation and
: }give rise to one of the great heroes of the nation.
:
: Clearly better than the alternative, but as an American what strikes
: me as strange about this story is that it should have even been
: considered an issue.
Jim,
There are a couple of things about your post and others in this thread
that are a little confusing. An atheist is one for whom all things can
be understood as processes of nature - exclusively. There is no need
for any recourse to Divnity to describe or explain anything. There is
no purpose or direction for any event beyond those required by
physics, chemistry, biology, etc.; everything is random, nothing is
determnined.
This would also have to include human intelligence of course and all
its products. There is nothing requiring that life evolve or that it
acquire intelligence, it's just a happy accident. For an atheist, no
event can be preferred to another or be said to have more or less
value than another in any naturalistic sense, and no thought -about-
an event can have value.
The products of our intelligence are acquired from our environment,
from teaching, training, observation and experience and are only
significant to the individual mind wherein they reside. These mental
processes and the images they produce for us are just electrical
activity and nothing more; content is of no consequence. The human
mind is as much a response to natural forces as water running down a
hill.
How then can an atheist judge value? What is the basis for criticizing
the values ennumerated in the Bible or the purposes imputed to God? On
what grounds can the the behavior of the reliogious be condemned? It
seems that, in judging the values that motivate others to action, you
have to have some standard against which conduct is measured, but what
in nature can serve that purpose? What law of nature can you invoke to
establish your values.
Since every event is entirely and exclusively a physical event, what
difference could it possibly make what -anyone- does, religious or
otherwise, there can be no -meaning- or gradation of value. The only
way an atheist can object to -any- behaviour is to admit that the
objection is entirely subjective and that he(she) just doesn't like it
- that's it. Any value judgement must be prefaced by the disclaimer
that it is nothing more than a matter of personal opinion and carries
no weight in any "absolute" sense.
That you don't like what God told people to do says nothing about God
or God's commands, it says only that there was an electrical event in your
nervous system that created an emotional state that your mind coupled
with a pre-existing thought-set to form that reaction. That your
objections -seem- well founded is due to the way you've been
conditioned; there is no "truth" content. The whole of your
intellectual landscape is an illusion, a virtual reality.
I didn't make these rules, it's inherent in naturalistic atheism and
to be consistent, you have to accept the non-significance of any human
thought, even your own. All of this being so, you have excluded
yourself from any discussion of values, right, wrong, goood, evil,
etc. and cannot participate. Your opinion about the Bible can have no
weight whatsoever.
Bill
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4176 | From: ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau)
Subject: Traffic morons
Reply-To: ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau)
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics-Vancouver B.C.-(604)986-9937 (604)255-9937
Lines: 36
NMM>From: nielsmm@imv.aau.dk (Niels Mikkel Michelsen)
NMM>Subject: How to act in front of traffic jerks
NMM>The other day, it was raining cats and dogs, therefor I was going only to
NMM>the speed limit, on nothing more, on my bike. This guy in his BMW was
NMM>driving 1-2 meters behind me for 7-800 meters and at the next red light I
NMM>calmly put the bike on its leg, walked back to this car, he rolled down the
NMM>window, and I told him he was a total idiot (and the reason why).
NMM>Did I do the right thing?
NMM>Yours Truly :
NMM> Niels Mikkel
Well, sounds great to me! When I have a real BDI cager tailgating me,
I've found that an effective strategy is to flash my brake light by
pumping the pedal. You will, obviously need a bit of free play in your
brake pedal to do this. It seems that even the most brain dead idiot can
usually discern that a flashing red light directly in front of
him/her/it may mean that something is wrong.
The two problems I'd see with your strategy is that the red light may
change before you can get anything meaningful out of your mouth, or the
occupant(s) may take exception to your opinions and demonstrate such
physically (on you or your now-parked bike). Admittedly, the latter is a
slim chance, but it would be enough to give me pause.
* SLMR 2.1a * sometimes you get to be the windshield, sometimes the bug
----
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|Vancouver, BC, Canada - Easy Access, Low Rates, Friendly Sysop|
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4177 | From: babb@sciences.sdsu.edu (J. Babb)
Subject: Cicuit Cellar Ink - Extras 4 Trade
Organization: SDSU - LARC
Lines: 14
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: larc.sdsu.edu
Fellow Info-junkies,
I have an extra CCI #27 (Real Time Programming/Embedded Sensors &
Storage) and an extra CCI #32 (Voice control of telescope, among other
articles). No labels. No torn, cut-up, or missing pages.
Would like to trade for CCI # 26, or CCI # 23, or CCI # 19 in same
condition (Labels OK).
I mail mine you mail yours mutual trust kinda thang OK?
You don't actually throw them away, do you?
Thanx,
Jeff Babb
babb@sciences.sdsu.edu
|
4178 | From: boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle)
Subject: Re: Plymouth Sundance/Dodge Shadow experiences?
Article-I.D.: cactus.1993Apr17.065015.3554
Distribution: usa
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Lines: 13
In article <oprsfnx.735015349@gsusgi1.gsu.edu> oprsfnx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Stephen F. Nicholas) writes:
[stuff about Dodge Shadow deleted]
> As an ex-Fleet Mgr. of 3000 cars, they were amoung the most trouble free of
>all models. I bought one for my wife.
What do you mean by "all models", all models of cars, all Chrysler models,
all models that the fleet manager had bought? Because there is no way in
hell that the Shadow is the most reliable car of all models sold, not
even Chrysler's dept. of lies, damned lies and statistics would claim that.
Craig
>
|
4179 | From: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org (Chris Winemiller)
Subject: Representation of Territories? (Was: Re: The $11,250,000,000,000 lunch)
Distribution: tx
Organization: None
Lines: 31
boyd@turtle.fisher.com writes:
> In article <ws0s2B1w165w@keys.lonestar.org>, cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org
(Chris Winemiller) writes:
> > BTW, is anyone besides myself peeved that non-US citizens (Puerto
> > Ricans, etc.) are very close to having full representation in the U.S.
> > House of Representatives?
> >
>
> Sorry Chris, Puerto Ricans are US citizens.
OK. I stand corrected. I guess, then, that the comments about payoffs
(i.e., "pork") to Puerto Ricans that others have been making still
stands?
Now, everybody, how about some opinion on the following related topic:
Should the people who are natives of U.S. territories have
representation in the U.S. House of Rep's or the U.S. Congress?
The U.S. Constitution sets up the House of Representatives to represent
each State in proportion to its population, and the Senate to represent
each State equally. What should be done with U.S. territories like
Puerto Rico? Does anyone have knowledge about how this was handled in
the past, such as with the Louisiana Territory or the Northwest
Territory?
Chris
--
Chris Winemiller Internet: cwinemil@keys.lonestar.org
UUCP : texsun!letni!keys!cwinemil
|
4180 | From: whaley@sigma.kpc.com (Ken Whaley)
Subject: Re: XCopyPlane Question
In-Reply-To: nancie@neko.CSS.GOV's message of 19 Apr 1993 19:48:30 -0400
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc.
Lines: 52
|
| In article <BUZZ.93Apr19101538@lion.bear.com> buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti) write
| >In article <WHALEY.93Apr15103931@sigma.kpc.com> whaley@sigma.kpc.com (Ken Whaley) writes:
| >> Actually, I must also ask the FAQ's #1 most popular reason why graphics
| >> don't show up: do you wait for an expose event before drawing your
| >> rectangle?
| >
| >Suppose you have an idle app with a realized and mapped Window that contains
| >Xlib graphics. A button widget, when pressed, will cause a new item
| >to be drawn in the Window. This action clearly should not call XCopyArea()
| >(or equiv) directly; instead, it should register the existence of the new
| >item in a memory structure and let the expose event handler take care
| >of rendering the image because at that time it is guaranteed that the
| >Window is mapped.
| >
| >The problem, of course, is that no expose event is generated if the window
| >is visible and mapped. Do you know the best way to "tickle" a window so
| >that the expose event handler will be invoked to draw this new item?
| >
|
| What does this have to do with my original question??? I previously
| stated that I did an XCopyArea of the depth-8 pixmap to the screen
| just to make sure that my image had data, and it did. This is NOT
| a problem with expose events, it has to do with XCopyPlane not
| working!!!
|
| Does anyone have a code fragment they could send demonstrating that
| XCopyPlane works??? This would be very helpful!
|
| Thanks!
What it has to do with your original question is this: many times
beginning X users (heck, experienced X users too!) write small test
programs. Many times they forget to draw only in response to expose
events, and thus see unpreditable results whereby sometimes the application's
graphics show up, and sometimes they don't. We're just trying to
eliminate all the "easy" explanations for why you're not seeing your
graphics.
That being said, why don't you try copying different planes to your
window other than 16 (== 1 << 4). Try 1, 1<<1, 1<<2, ..., 1<<7
to see it you get any output. Since you're dipslaying only a single
plane of your data, it's possible that all the pixel values in your
pixmap have the same value for that color plane.
Ken
--
Kenneth Whaley (408) 748-6347
Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc. Email: whaley@kpc.com
2630 Walsh Avenue
Santa Clara, CA. 95051
|
4181 | From: cheinan@access.digex.com (Cheinan Marks)
Subject: Re: Please Recommend 3D Graphics Library For Mac.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Lines: 100
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
: Robert G. Carpenter writes:
: >Hi Netters,
: >
: >I'm building a CAD package and need a 3D graphics library that can handle
: >some rudimentry tasks, such as hidden line removal, shading, animation, etc.
: >
: >Can you please offer some recommendations?
: >
: >I'll also need contact info (name, address, email...) if you can find it.
: >
: >Thanks
: >
: >(Please Post Your Responses, in case others have same need)
: >
: >Bob Carpenter
: >
The following is extracted from sumex-aim.stanford.edu. It should also be on
the mirrors. I think there is source for some applications that may have some
bearing on your project. Poke around the source directory. I've never used
this package, nor do I know anyone who did, but the price is right :-)
Hope this helps.
Cheinan
Abstracts of files as of Thu Apr 1 03:11:39 PST 1993
Directory: info-mac/source
#### BINHEX 3d-grafsys-121.hqx ****
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 14:13:07 +0100
From: Christian Steffen Ove Franz <cfranz@iiic.ethz.ch>
To: questions@mac.archive.umich.edu
Subject: 3d GrafSys 1.21 in incoming directory
A 3d GrafSys short description follows:
Programmers 3D GrafSys Vers 1.21 now available.
Version 1.21 is mainly a bugfix for THINK C users. THIS VERSION
NOW RUNS WITH THINK C, I PROMISE! The Docs now contain a chapter for
C programmers on how to use the GrafSys. If you have problems, feel free
to contact me.
The other change is that I removed the FastPerfTrig calls from
the FPU version to make it run faster.
Those of you who don't know what all this is about, read on.
********
Programmers 3D GrafSys -- What it is:
-------------------------------------
Didn't you always have this great game in mind where you needed some way of
drawing three-dimensional scenes?
Didn't you always want to write this program that visualized the structure
of three-dimensional molecules?
And didn't the task of writing your 3D conversions routines keep you from
actually doing it?
Well if the answer to any of the above questions is 'Yes, but what has it to
do with this package???' , read on.
GrafSys is a THINK Pascal/C library that provides you with simple routines
for building, saving, loading (as resources), and manipulating
(independent rotating around arbitrary achses, translating and scaling)
three dimensional objects. Objects, not just simple single-line drawings.
GrafSys supports full 3D clipping, animation and some (primitive) hidden-
line/hidden-surface drawing with simple commands from within YOUR PROGRAM.
GrafSys also supports full eye control with both perspective and parallel
projections (If you can't understand a word, don't worry, this is just showing
off for those who know about it. The docs that come with it will try to explain
what it all means later on).
GrafSys provides a powerful interface to supply your own drawing routines with
data so you can use GrafSys to do the 3D transformations and your own routines
to do the actual drawing. (Note that GrafSys also provides drawing routines so
you don't have to worry about that if you don't want to)
GrafSys 1.11 comes in two versions. One for the 881 and 020 or above
processors. The other version uses fixed-point arithmetic and runs on any Mac.
Both versions are *100% source compatibel*.
GrafSys comes with an extensive manual that teaches you the fundamentals of 3D
graphics and how to use the package.
If demand is big enough I will convert the GrafSys to an object-class library.
However, I feelt that the way it is implemented now makes it easier to use for
a lot more people than the select 'OOP-Guild'.
GrafSys is free for any non-commercial usage. Read the documentation enclosed.
Enjoy,
Christian Franz
|
4182 | From: mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate)
Subject: A Remarkable Admission
Lines: 19
Jon Livesey writes:
>I'm certainly not going to attempt to distinguish between different
>flavours of Christian, all loudly claiming to be the One True Christian.
Well, it's obvious that you *don't* attempt, otherwise you would be aware
that they *don't* all "loudly [claim] to be the One True Christian".
I've tried to avoid using the phrase "is/is not christian" because of these
ownership issues; instead, I've tried the phrase "Nicene christianity" in an
attempt to identify the vast majority of "christianity" which has roughly
similar viewpoints on the core theological issues. The JWs do not fall
within this group and in fact espouse a position known as Arianism, which is
rejected by all the nicene churches and virtually everyone else as well.
--
C. Wingate + "The peace of God, it is no peace,
+ but strife closed in the sod.
mangoe@cs.umd.edu + Yet, brothers, pray for but one thing:
tove!mangoe + the marv'lous peace of God."
|
4183 | From: apd2c@Virginia.EDU ("Andrew Paul Dickens")
Subject: Re: computer graphics to vcr?
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 16
Getting an image from a computer monitor to a videotape
is harder than it looks. The standard VGA and EGA outputs are
very different than the NTSC format used by televisions. While
there is equipment that will do the conversion, it is hard to
get your hands on and costs quite a bit.
If you have access to an Amiga computer, that has an
NTSC output, you can transfer certain types of graphic files by
modem and tape them from the NTSC output. Unfortunately, this
would be frame-by-frame and would lead to unbelievably scratchy
animation unless you had a good Amiga animation program.
Otherwise, see if your local public access cable
station has equipment that you can use.
|
4184 | From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks only
Organization: DSI/USCRPAC
Lines: 25
In article <C5rrtD.1Gz@agora.rain.com> jhart@agora.rain.com (Jim Hart) writes:
>
>What we need is a true *privacy chip*. For example, a real-time
>voice-encryption RSA, silicon compile it and spit out ASIC.
>Put this chip on the market as a de facto standard for international
>business, diplomats, and private communications. If the U.S. bans
>it, we make it somewhere else and import it. The Japanese, German,
>Dutch, Taiwanese, Korean, etc. electronics companies don't want the
>NSA spying on them. U.S. workers lose more jobs to government fascist
>stupidity.
>
Some countries have laws about importing crypto gear--I believe the U.S.
does. Without a license the above scheme won't work (at least not legally)
in such countries, including at least France and the U.S.
David
--
David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of
our information, errors and omissions excepted.
|
4185 | From: grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221)
Subject: Re: powerful "similarity" too
Organization: capriccioso
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Lines: 44
I've been asked to supply more specific directions
for automated fetching of the source and documentation
for "agrep," the powerful similarity pattern matching tool.
It is at
cs.arizona.edu
192.12.69.5
in directory
/agrep/README
/agrep/agrep-2.04.tar.Z
/agrep/agrep.ps.1.Z
/agrep/agrep.ps.2.Z
(The .ps suffixed files are the optional postscript docs;
a reasonably good research report with benchmarks is
included.)
Note for Macintosh MPW users: after a few hours of drudgery,
I ported the tool to MPW 3.2.3 running under System 7.1.
If you would like me to e-mail a binhexed copy of the tool
suitable for dropping in to your MPW/tools folder, please write...
Other than the more purely cryptographic uses for the tool
I've been having lots of fun picking up the "lost"
references to things I'm interested in. For example,
starting a search like:
agrep -1 -i 'Burning Chrome' cyberpunkspool
immediately finds references like 'burning crome' that I
have always missed before. See how many times John
Gilmore's name is mentioned in the CUD archives
(and how often misspelled). How about _your_ name?
As usual, I will e-mail the uuencoded tar.Z upon request
if you cannot do anonymous FTP.
--
grady@netcom.com 2EF221 / 15 E2 AD D3 D1 C6 F3 FC 58 AC F7 3D 4F 01 1E 2F
|
4186 | From: kentiler@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Kent P. Iler)
Subject: Procomm Plus for windows problems....
Organization: Kansas State University
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Hi,
I have normal procomm plus for dos, but I've been considering buying
the windows version....it got really great reviews in computer shopper.
I have a friend who connects to the mainframe and unix machines here
using it, but the screen seems to have a problem keeping up with the
modem....he has a 14,400 modem on a 486 50 Mhz machine. I can't
see it having trouble keeping up. His pcplus for dos works great,
but the windows just seems to always screw up....Is this common
and is there a fix? Or is something just screwed with his machine?
Kent
|
4187 | From: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: Re: Mel Hall
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Organization: Columbia University
Lines: 17
In article <1993Apr17.212119.13901@coe.montana.edu> warped@cs.montana.edu (Doug Dolven) writes:
>
>Has anyone heard anything about Mel Hall this season? I'd heard he wasn't
>with the Yankees any more. What happened to him?
>
> Doug Dolven
>--
>Doug Dolven
>warped@cs.montana.edu
>gdd7548@trex.oscs.montana.edu
Mel Hall signed with a Japanese team.
-Mike
/mike@columbia.edu
|
4188 | From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: Drinking and Riding
Organization: University College of Wales, Aberystwyth
Lines: 10
Nntp-Posting-Host: 144.124.112.30
>So, you can't ride the bike, but you will drive truck home? The
>judgement and motor skills needed to pilot a moto are not required in a
>cage? This scares the sh*t out of me.
>
This is a piece of psychology its essential for any long term biker to
understand. People do NOT think 'if I do this will someone else suffer?'.
They assess things purely on' if I do this will I suffer?.
This is a vital concept in bike-cage interaction.
|
4189 | From: dreier@jaffna.berkeley.edu (Roland Dreier)
Subject: Re: plus minus stat
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Lines: 59
<1qmtd1INNr1l@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
NNTP-Posting-Host: jaffna.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: gibson@nukta.geop.ubc.ca's message of 16 Apr 1993 18:20:17 GMT
In article <1qmtd1INNr1l@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> gibson@nukta.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson) writes:
In article <1993Apr16.160228.24945@sol.UVic.CA> gballent@hudson.UVic.CA writes:
>
>In article 9088@blue.cis.pitt.edu, jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald) writes:
>
>>Jagr has a higher +/-, but Francis has had more points. And take it from
>>an informed observer, Ronnie Francis has had a *much* better season than
>>Jaromir Jagr. This is not to take anything away from Jaro, who had a
>>decent year (although it didn't live up to the expectations of some).
>
>Bowman tended to overplay Francis at times because he is a Bowman-style
>player. He plays hard at all times, doesn't disregard his defensive
>responsibilities and is a good leader. Bowman rewarded him be increasing his
>ice time.
>
>Jagr can be very arrogant and juvenile and display a "me first" attitude.
>This rubbed Bowman the wrong way and caused him to lose some ice time.
>
>Throughout the year, Francis consistently recieved more ice time than
>Jagr. Althouhg I have never seen stats on this subject, I am pretty
>sure that Jagr had more points per minute played that Francis. When
>you add to that Jagr's better +/- rating, I think it becomes evident
>that Jagr had a better season- not that Francis had a bad one.
>
Actually, what I think has become more evident, is that you are determined to
flaunt your ignorance at all cost. Jagr did not have a better season than
Francis ... to suggest otherwise is an insult to those with a modicum of
hockey knowledge. Save your almost maniacal devotion to the almighty
plus/minus ... it is the most misleading hockey stat available.
Until the NHL publishes a more useful quantifiable statistic including ice
time per game and some measure of its "quality" (i.e., is the player put out
in key situations like protecting a lead late in the game; is he matched up
against the other team's top one or two lines; short-handed, etc), I would
much rather see the +/- disappear altogether instead of having its dubious
merits trumpeted by those with little understanding of its implications.
Thank you for posting this. As the person who first brought up the
fact that Jagr has a much higher +/- than Francis, I can assure you
that I brought it up as an example of the absurdity of +/-
comparisons, even on the same team. I never, ever thought that anyone
would argue that Jagr's higher +/- actually reflected better two-way
play.
In my opinion, Francis's low +/- is purely a result of him being asked
to play against opponents top scorers at all times; the fact that he
can chip in 100 points while neutralizing the other team's top center
is a testament to how valuable he is, even if his +/- suffers. On the
other hand, Jagr, for how big, fast and skilled he is, can't even get
90 points, no matter how inflated his +/- is.
(By the way, don't get me wrong -- I like Jagr. He may be a lazy
floater, but he turns it on at exactly the right times -- like
overtime of playoff games).
--
Roland Dreier dreier@math.berkeley.edu
|
4190 | From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Subject: Re: White House Wiretap Chip Disinformation Sheet
Keywords: Big Bubba Is Watching.
Article-I.D.: qualcom.rdippold.735041031
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Lines: 10
Originator: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com
Nntp-Posting-Host: qualcom.qualcomm.com
wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705) writes:
>Fascinating. Most of the content of the White House announcements was
>in what was *not* said. It gives us almost nothing of value, threatens to
>take away a lot, and does it with a sincere smile on its face,
>and the nice friendly word "Management".
The computer, err, government, is your friend. Have a nice day (under
penalty of law).
--
To refuse praise is to seek praise twice.
|
4191 | From: bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve)
Subject: Re: Choking Ninja Problem
In-Reply-To: starr@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu's message of 13 Apr 93 15:34:41 CST
Organization: Organized?? Surely you jest!
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr13.153441.49118@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> starr@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> I need help with my '85 ZX900A, I put Supertrapp slip-on's on it and
> had the carbs re-jetted to match a set of K&N filters that replaced
> the stock airbox. Now I have a huge flat spot in the carburation at
> about 5 thousand RPM in most any gear. This is especially frustrating
> on the highway, the bike likes to cruise at about 80mph which happens
> to be 5,0000 RPM in sixth gear. I've had it "tuned" and this doesn't
> seem to help. I am thinking about new carbs or the injection system
> from a GPz 1100. Does anyone have any suggestions for a fix besides
> restoring it to stock?
> Starr@kuhub.ukans.cc.edu the brain dead." -Ted Nugent
It sound like to me that your carbs are not jetted properly.
If you did it yourself, take it to a shop and get it done right.
If a shop did it, get your money back, and go to another shop.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
|Bennett Leve 84 V-65 Sabre | I'm drowning, throw |
|Orlando, FL 73 XL 250 | me a bagel. |
|hoggle!hoggle2!bleve@peora.sdc.ccur.com | |
|
4192 | From: chiu@io.nosc.mil (Francis Chiu)
Subject: Re: Blast them next time
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
Lines: 39
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: io.nosc.mil
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Daniel Oldham (oldham@ces.cwru.edu) wrote:
: What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of
: had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the
: compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Initial assault on the "compound" ( more like a wooden farm house if
it burned to the ground like it did ) for WHAT? Regardless of who
started/caused the fire, NONE of this would have happened if the
ATF can HONESTLY justify their initial assault and handled it
properly!
QUESTION AUTHORITY!
<SNIP>
: With the WoD and the increased crime in the streets the BATF is needed
: more now then ever. If they blast away a few good fokes then that is
: the price we all have to pay for law and order in this country. Look
: at all the good people that died in wars to protect this great country
: of ours.
:
: With the arms build up in Waco they needed to hit that compound with
Show me some evidenence instead of repeating what the FBI/ATF
told you.
: mega fire power. They could of gone in there blasting and killed a few
: women and kids but it would of been better then letting them all burn
: to death 51 days later.
Then I'm sure you won't mind if the ATF or the DEA raid your house
someday on a bogus informant tip. So what if they killed/wounded your
family "accidentally" during the raid, it's just a fair price to pay
for law and order in this country, right? Answer this question
honestly before making anymore ignorant statements!
What is even more disturbing than out of control government agencies
are citizens who allow them to be irresponsible.
--F. Chiu
|
4193 | From: dwarf@bcarh601.bnr.ca (W. Jim Jordan)
Subject: Re: Truly a sad day for hockey
Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarh601
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Lines: 19
Farewell, Minnesota fans. Get stuffed, Dallas Stars.
As the North Stars fade to black, I hope that Minneapolis/St. Paul are
not long without an NHL team. It just seems "right" that the hotbed of
amateur hockey in the USA should have an NHL team as well. The loss of
the team is certainly not the fault of the fans (though the start of the
1989-90 season made it look real bad for a while).
I wish now that I kept the North Stars cap I bought at Maple Leaf
Gardens the morning after they eliminated Montreal in 1980. (I got it
to spite the Montreal fans in the small town where I grew up.) What a
glorious season that was for the North Stars!
dwarf
--
W. Jim Jordan "I don't mean to tell you how to live
dwarf@x400gate.bnr.ca (Internet) your life--that's what the TV's for--
I work for BNR; I do not speak for it. but if I didn't believe in Jesus, I'd
be going to hell." - Peter Heath
|
4194 | From: reidg@pacs.pha.pa.us ( Reid Goldsborough)
Subject: New software for sale
Keywords: software
Distribution: na
Organization: Philadelphia Area Computer Society
Lines: 34
These programs all include complete printed manuals and
registration cards. I need to get rid of some excess.
They're the latest versions. I've priced these programs
at less than half the list price and significantly less
than the cheapest mail-order price around.
* MICROSOFT ENTERTAINMENT PACK VOLUME ONE, includes eight
different Windows-based games, including Tetris, Taipei,
Minesweeper, TicTactics, Golf, Cruel, Pegged, and IdleWild,
list $49, sale $20.
* JUST JOKING FOR WINDOWS 1.0, database of jokes from
WordStar, can quickly find jokes for many different
occasions, useful for business writers, speechwriters,
presenters, and others, more than 2,800 jokes under 250
topics, can search by keyword and author, list $49, sale
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4195 | From: henrik@quayle.kpc.com
Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
Organization: NONE
Lines: 67
In article <1993Apr20.173009.10580@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr20.164517.20876@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes:
|> >In article <1993Apr20.000413.25123@ee.rochester.edu>, terziogl@ee.rochester.edu (Esin Terzioglu) writes:
henrik] My response to the "shooting down" of a Turkish airplane over the
henrik] Armenian air space was because of the IGNORANT posting of the
henrik] person from your Country. Turks and Azeris consistantly WANT to
henrik] drag ARMENIA into the KARABAKH conflict with Azerbaijan. The
henrik] KARABAKHI-ARMENIANS who have lived in their HOMELAND for 3000
henrik] years (CUT OFF FROM ARMENIA and GIVEN TO AZERIS BY STALIN) are
henrik] the ones DIRECTLY involved in the CONFLICT. They are defending
henrik] themselves against AZERI AGGRESSION. Agression that has NO MERCY
henrik] for INOCENT people that are costantly SHELLED with MIG-23's and
henrik] othe Russian aircraft.
henrik] At last, I hope that the U.S. insists that Turkey stay out of the
henrik] KARABAKH crisis so that the repeat of the CYPRUS invasion WILL
henrik] NEVER OCCUR again.
DA] Armenia is involved in fighting with Azarbaijan. It is Armenian
DA] soldiers from mainland Armenia that are shelling towns in Azarbaijan.
Well, this is your opinion !
Turkish/ Azeris can BARK all they WANT since the ABOVE is UNTRUE. However,
I am sure YOU GUYS would have NEVER brought up ARMENIA's involvement if
KARABAKHI-Armenians had had HEAVY losses.
DA] You might wish to read more about whether or not it is Azeri aggression
DA] only in that region. It seems to me that the Armenians are better
DA] organized, have more success militarily and shell Azeri towns
DA] repeatedly.
Read what ? The New York Times , that is publishing anti-armenian
articles. Nop, I have my resources. Look, everyone knows how aggressive
Turks/Azeris have been in the past. Armenians ARE NOT gona sit
around and watch FIRE WORKS by AZERIS taught by TURKS.
DA] It seems to me that the Armenians are better organized, have more success
DA] militarily and shell Azeri towns repeatedly.
Buch of non-sence CRAP and you know it. Who the hell you think
you are talking to ? Azeris are FIGHTING LOCAL ARMENIANS in
Nagarno-Karabakh. You tell me who has more MIG's ? Freedom fighters
in Nagarno-Karabakh or Azerbaijan ?
Again, I will say it for the last time, ARMENIA is NOT involved
in this WAR and you guys WANT to bring this up in order to cover
up the Turkish involvment in the Karabakh. Go ahead , REPEAT as
much as you want.
DA] I don't wish to get into the Cyprus discussion. Turkey had the right to
DA] intervene, and it did. Perhaps the intervention was not supposed to
DA] last for so long, but the constant refusal of the Greek governments both
DA] on the island and in Greece to deal with reality is also to be blamed
DA] for the ongoing standoff in the region.
Not a chance ! You CAN NOT convince me (based on your REASONS)that
your GOVERNMENT did the RIGHT thing to invade CYPRUS.
DA] Lastly, why is there not a soc.culture.armenia? I vote yes for it.
DA] After all, it is now free.
Well, I am NOT in the position to agree or disadree with you.
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4196 | From: bhaskar@orion.me.uiuc.edu (Bhaskar Manda)
Subject: Re: It's a rush... (was Re: Too fast)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 16
gwm@spl1.spl.loral.com (Gary W. Mahan) writes:
>>Why should a good driver be terrified at 130mph? The only thing I fear
>>going at 130 are drivers, who switch to the left lane without using
>>either rear-view-mirror or flashers. Doing 130 to 150 ain't a rush
>>for me, but it's fun and I get where I want to go much faster.
>In defense of the drivers, who are in the right lane. Here in the states, people simply do not expect when they are driving to be overtaken at a speed differential of 50+mph. I don't think this is because they are stupid (of course, there are exceptions), they are just programmed because of the 55mph limit. Do you (in the states) when you look in the rear-view ALWAYS calculate future positions of cars based on a 50+ speed differential.
>Dont get me wrong, I love to drive in the left lane fast but when I overtake
>cars who are on the right, I slow down a tad bit. If I were to rely on the judgement of the other car, to recognize the speed differential, I would be the stupid one.
>BTW, If no one else is around, then GO FOR IT!.
Keep up the good work guys.
Afterall the cops need to be occupied with someone so that lesser
mortals like us can be left alone.
Bhaskar@orion.me.uiuc.edu
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4197 | From: emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Sun
Lines: 27
NNTP-Posting-Host: hernes-sun
In article <C5HqxJ.JDG@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lis450bw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (lis450 Student) writes:
>Hmmmm. Define objective morality. Well, depends upon who you talk to.
>Some say it means you can't have your hair over your ears, and others say
>it means Stryper is acceptable. _I_ would say that general principles
>of objective morality would be listed in one or two places.
>Ten Commandments
>Sayings of Jesus
>the first depends on whether you trust the Bible,
>the second depends on both whether you think Jesus is God, and whether
> you think we have accurate copies of the NT.
Gong!
Take a moment and look at what you just wrote. First you defined
an "objective" morality and then you qualified this "objective" morality
with subjective justifications. Do you see the error in this?
Sorry, you have just disqualified yourself, but please play again.
>MAC
>
eric
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4198 | From: ferdinan@oeinck.waterland.wlink.nl (Ferdinand Oeinck)
Subject: Re: Distance between two Bezier curves
Organization: My own node in Groningen, NL.
Lines: 14
pes@hutcs.cs.hut.fi (Pekka Siltanen) writes:
> Suppose two cubic Bezier curves (control points V1,..,V4 and W1,..,W4)
> which have equal first and last control points (V1 = W1, V4 = W4). How do I
> get upper bound for distance between these curves.
Which distance? The distance between one point (t = ti) on the first curve
and a point on the other curve with same parameter (u = ti)?
>
> Any references appreciated. Thanks in anvance.
>
> Pekka Siltanen
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4199 | From: msilverm@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Silverman)
Subject: Re: Clinton's views on Jerusalem
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Lines: 23
bf3833@pyuxe.cc.bellcore.com (feigenbaum,benjamin) writes:
>I recently read that during Bill Clinton's campaign, he stated
>that if elected he would immediately recognize Jerusalem as
>Israel's capital. According to the article, Mr. Clinton
>reaffirmed this after winning the presidency. However,
>during recent talks with President Mubarak, Secretary of
>State Christopher stated that "the status of Jerusalem
>will be a final matter of discussion between the parties".
>Now I don't want to start a big discussion over the status
>of Jerusalem. All I want to know is if anyone can
>authenticate Mr. Clinton's statements with dates, places, etc.
From a recent interview in Middle East Insight magazine,
Clinton said that he supports moving the US Embassy to
Jerusalem, but would not do so at this time because it
would interrupt the peace talks.
--
msilverm@nyx.cs.du.edu GO CUBS!!!
"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
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