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5300 | From: manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes)
Subject: Re: Oops! Oh no!
Organization: Manes and Associates, NYC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
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Wm. L. Ranck (ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu) wrote:
: I hate to admit this, and I'm still mentally kicking myself for it.
: I rode the brand new K75RT home last Friday night. 100 miles in rain
: and darkness. No problems. Got it home and put it on the center stand.
: The next day I pushed it off the center stand in preparation for going
: over to a friend's house to pose. You guessed it. It got away from me
: and landed on its right side.
: Scratched the lower fairing, cracked the right mirror, and cracked the
: upper fairing.
: *DAMN* am I stupid! It's going to cost me ~$200 to get the local
: body shop to fix it. And that is after I take the fairing off for them.
: Still, that's probably cheaper than the mirror alone if I bought a
: replacement from BMW.
You got off cheap. My sister's ex-boyfriend was such an incessant pain
in the ass about wanting to ride my bikes (no way, Jose) that I
finally took him to Lindner's BMW in New Canaan, CT last fall where
I had seen a nice, used K100RS in perfect condition. After telling
everyone in the shop his Norton war stories from fifteen years ago,
signing the liability waiver, and getting his pre-flight, off he went...
Well, not quite. I walked out of a pizza shop up the street,
feeling good about myself (made my sister's boyfriend happy and got
the persistent wanker off my ass for good), heard the horrendous
racket of an engine tortured to its red line and then a crash. I
saw people running towards the obvious source of the disturbance...
Jeff laying under the BMW with the rear wheel spinning wildly and
someone groping for the kill switch. I stared in disbelief with
a slice hanging out of my mouth as Matty, the shop manager, slid
up beside me and asked, "Friend of yours, Steve?". "Shit, Matty,
it could have been worse. That could been my FLHS!"
Jeff hadn't made it 10 inches. Witnesses said he lifted his feet
before letting out the clutch and gravity got the best of him.
Jeff claimed that the clutch didn't engage. Matty was quick.
While Jeff was still stuttering in embarrassed shock he managed
to snatch Jeff's credit card for a quick imprint and signature. Twenty
minutes later, when Jeff's color had paled to a flush, Matty
presented him with an estimate of $580 for a busted right mirror
and a hairline crack in the fairing. That was for fixing the crack
and masking the damaged area, not a new fairing. Or he could buy the
bike.
I'm not sure what happened later as my sister split up with Jeff shortly
afterwards (to hook up with another piece of work) except that Matty
told me he ran the charge through in December and that it went
uncontested.
--
Stephen Manes manes@magpie.linknet.com
Manes and Associates New York, NY, USA =o&>o
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5301 | From: ns14@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Nathan Otto Siemers)
Subject: Re: Analgesics with Diuretics
In-Reply-To: dyer@spdcc.com's message of Tue, 6 Apr 1993 03:28:57 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: crux3.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Cornell Univ.
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>>>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 1993 03:28:57 GMT, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) said:
| In article <ofk=lve00WB2AvUktO@andrew.cmu.edu> Lawrence Curcio <lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|>I sometimes see OTC preparations for muscle aches/back aches that
|>combine aspirin with a diuretic.
| You certainly do not see OTC preparations advertised as such.
| The only such ridiculous concoctions are nostrums for premenstrual
| syndrome, ostensibly to treat headache and "bloating" simultaneously.
| They're worthless.
|>The idea seems to be to reduce
|>inflammation by getting rid of fluid. Does this actually work?
| That's not the idea, and no, they don't work.
I *believe* there is a known synergism between certain
analgesics and caffiene. For treating pain, not inflammation.
Now that I am an ibuprofen convert I haven't taken it for some
time, but excedrin really works! (grin)
Nathan
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5302 | From: bcasavan@cougar.ecn.uoknor.edu (Brent Casavant)
Subject: Diamond Viper
Summary: Want information
Nntp-Posting-Host: cougar.ecn.uoknor.edu
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Keywords: Any problems?
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Hi folks,
At the end of the summer I'm planning on getting a new computer (486DX50 or
486DX2/66) and have been poking around in Computer Shopper. Anyway I saw
the ads for the Diamond Viper (Local Bus, 2MB memory, 50 million+ WinMarks)
and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with it (good/bad/not worth
the money/etc.) Any information at all would be nice.
Also, a few other questions. Anyone know of a good cheap 15"+ 1024x768 NI
monitor? And what is a good CD-ROM drive that meets MPC standards and is
controlled via SCSI? How about a 250MB tape drive on SCSI?
Thanks for your time,
Brent Casavant
bcasavan@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
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5303 | From: johnh@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (John Haddy)
Subject: Re: Help with ultra-long timing
Organization: Macquarie University
Lines: 39
Distribution: world
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In article <C513wI.G5A@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
|> (1) Don't use big capacitors. They are unreliable for timing due to
|> leakage.
|>
|> Instead, use a quartz crystal and divide its frequency by 2 40 times
|> or something like that.
|>
|> 1 MHz divided by 2^40 = 1 cycle per 2 weeks, approximately.
|>
|> (2) I wouldn't expect any components (other than batteries or electrolytic
|> capacitors) to fail at -40 C (or -40 F for that matter either :) ).
|> The battery is going to be your big problem. Also, of course, your
|> circuit shouldn't depend on exact values of resistors (which a crystal-
|> controlled timer won't).
|>
... Wouldn't a crystal be affected by cold? My gut feeling is that, as a
mechanically resonating device, extreme cold is likely to affect the
compliance (?terminology?) of the quartz, and hence its resonant frequency.
|> --
|> :- Michael A. Covington internet mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *****
|> :- Artificial Intelligence Programs phone 706 542-0358 : *********
|> :- The University of Georgia fax 706 542-0349 : * * *
|> :- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** **
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5304 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration. May 7 Crystal City
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Lines: 9
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
AW&ST had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration confernce
May 7th at Crystal City Virginia, under the auspices of AIAA.
Does anyone know more about this? How much, to attend????
Anyone want to go?
pat
|
5305 | From: b-clark@nwu.edu (Brian Clark)
Subject: Re: DSP or other cards for FFT's, anyone?
Nntp-Posting-Host: elvex33.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University
Lines: 16
In article <1qjnpi$bsj@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>,
ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig) wrote:
>
> We are doing heavy - duty image processing with some seriously
> underpowered Mac's (Mac IIsi, for example). Most of the CPU time is
> burned in doing FFT's.
>
> What cards are out there which would allow us to take away that part
> of the load from the CPU? Any DSP 56001 or i860 cards out there,
> for example? They'd have to be callable from Think Pascal, to
> replace the one - and two - dimensional FFT's routines in an already
> existing program.
Check out the National Instruments NB-DSP2300. This uses the Texas
Instruments TMS320C30 chip, which is a true 32 bit floating point DSP. It's
pricey, however.
|
5306 | From: haston@utkvx.utk.edu (Haston, Donald Wayne)
Subject: Hijaak
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Keywords: Hijaak
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Lines: 14
I have heard some impressive things about Hijakk (for Windows).
Currently, I use a shareware program called Graphics Workshop.
What kinds of things will Hijaak do that these shareware programs
will not do?
What has been your experience with Hijaak? Are there other programs
that are better? Please email me, if you can help:
Wayne Haston
HASTON@UTKVX.UTK.EDU
Thanks!
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5307 | From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Lines: 66
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com
In article <93105.215548U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz
<U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> In article <1993Apr15.202811.29312@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) says:
> >
> >>I have been at a shooting range where
> >>gang members were "practicing" shooting.
> >
> >How do "we" know that they were gang members and not undercover cops
> >or even law-abiding menacing minorities. BTW - Why the sneer quotes?
> >
> "We" know because the area that the gun shop/shooting range is in is right on
> the border of the west side of Chicago. That is a gang infested area. There
> are many, many bad things going on in that area. Also, I have several
friends
> that live very close to that area who have had problems with some of these
> folks. By the way, where did I say that they were minorities?
That was what I got from your phrasing, too. Well, then, were they (the ones
you saw) black? You don't deny seem to deny it, either.
> Do you think
> that only minorities have gangs? Not so. As far as the quotes are concerned
> it was totally obvious that they weren't just practicing for marksmanship. I
> don't know about you but I have never seen anyone else practice marksmanship
by
> taking their gun out of their coat as fast as possible and start shooting.
That is the recommended way to practice with a CCW, too. Aim alone is no good
for defense, if you can't get the gun rapidly.
> If
> you would have been there Andy it would've been obvious to you too.
What, outside of prejudice, would have made it obvious?
> Of course
> it might not have been. Who knows. All I do know is that I was there, I
live
> here and I know that they were gang bangers. When you live here long enough
it
> becomes pretty easy to spot them via gang colors, gang signs, etc.
Yes, prejudice is more subtle in the north, isn't it?
> One last
> thing. My sister is a social worker. She makes it her point to find these
> things out (gang signs, colors, etc) because it is in her best interest to do
> so. She is nice enough to let me know these things so I can watch out for
> myself as I live right on the border of the west side of the city. Enough
said.
>
More than enough. I understand you completely.
> Jason
Jim
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jmd@handheld.com
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"I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought
that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93
"If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed
in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!"
WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
|
5308 | From: jamesf@apple.com (Jim Franklin)
Subject: Re: Tracing license plates of BDI cagers?
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr09.182821.28779@i88.isc.com>, jeq@lachman.com (Jonathan
E. Quist) wrote:
>
> You could file a complaint for dangerous operation of a motor vehicle,
> and sign it. Be willing to show up in court if it comes to it.
No... you can do this? Really? The other morning I went to do a lane change
on the freeway and looked in my mirror, theer was a car there, but far
enough behind. I looked again about 3-5 seconds later, car still in same
position, i.e. not accelerating. I triple check with a head turn and decide
I have plenty of room, so I do it, accelerating. I travel about 1/4 mile
staying ~200
feet off teh bumper of the car ahead, and I do a casual mirror check. This
guy is RIGHT on my tail, I mean you couldn't stick a hair between my tire &
his fender. I keep looking in the mirror at him a,d slowly let off teh
throttle. He stays there until I had lost about 15mph and then comes around
me and cuts me off big time. I follow him for about 10 miles and finally
get bored and turn back into work.
I can file a complaint about this? And actually have the chance to have
something done? How? Who? Where?
jim
* Jim Franklin * jamesf@apple.com Jim Bob & Sons *
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5309 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: 14 Apr 93 God's Promise in 1 John 1: 7
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 25
In article <1993Apr15.202729.6649@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>,
brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) wrote:
> Jesus gives more reasons in John 16:7. But one obvious reason
> why Jesus died, (and as with everything else, it has nothing do with
> his punishment) was that he could rise to life again--so that
> we would "stop doubting and believe" (John 21:27). The fact
> that Jesus rose from the dead is my hope that I too will rise
> from the dead. It is an obvious point. Do not overlook it.
> Without this obvious point, I would have no hope
> and my faith would be vanity.
Glad to hear this, just a note, Osiris, Mithras and many other
cult gods resurrected as well, so there's a good chance for all of
us to maybe end up in a virtual reality simulator, and live forever,
hurrah!
Sorry, this was a joke, some sort of one anyway. I'm the first
that connected Osiris with a virtual reality personality database.
Time to write a book.
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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5310 | From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: Constitutionality of 18 U.S.C 922(o)
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
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Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com
In article <1993Apr15.142322.1318@atlastele.com>, brians@atlastele.com (Brian Sheets) writes:
> You know, I was reading 18 U.S.C. 922 and something just did not make
> sence and I was wondering if someone could help me out.
>
> Say U.S.C. 922 :
>
> (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for
> any person to transfer or possess a machinegun.
>
> Well I got to looking in my law dictionary and I found that a "person"
> might also be an artificial entity that is created by government
^^^^^
> and has no rights under the federal constitution. So, what I
> don't understand is how a statute like 922 can be enforced on
> an individual. So someone tell me how my government can tell
> me what I can or cannot possess. Just passing a law
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> does not make it LAW.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry, but I really can't figure out what you're trying to say, above.
> Everyone knows that laws are constitional
> until it goes to court.
Not exactly:
"An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes
no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal
contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed."
Norton vs. Shelby County, 118 US 425 p.442
"The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the
form and name of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and
ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the
time of it's enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so
branding it."
"No on is bound to obey an uncontitutional law, and no courts are
bound to enforce it."
16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177
late 2d, Sec 256
> So, has it ever gone to court, not
> just your run of the mill "Ok I had it I am guilty, put me in jail"
> Has anyone ever claimed that they had a right to possess and was told
> by the Supreme Court that they didn't have that right?
Automatic weapons? No. The Supreme Court has never heard such a case.
--
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OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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5311 | From: random@access.digex.com (Random)
Subject: Scott Erickson
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Lines: 3
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Does anyone have the scoop on Scot Erickson? How long is he going to be
out for?
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5312 | From: sam@ms.uky.edu (Mike Mills)
Subject: Video cards with BNC connectors?
Organization: University of Kentucky
Lines: 14
Hello,
I just recently bought a NEC 6FG. In order to get the highest possible quality
and refresh rates, I'd like to know if there are any accelerator cards with
BNC connectors (as opposed to the usual d-sub connector)?
Thanks for any information,
--
--Mike Mills E-Mail: sam@ms.uky.edu, {rutgers, uunet}!ukma!sam
--UK Math Sciences Dept. mike@ukpr.uky.edu
--(606) 257-1429 (work) 263-0721 (home)
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5313 | From: bdolson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Brian David Olson)
Subject: For Sale: IBM Wheelwriter 6
Nntp-Posting-Host: elvex34.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University
Lines: 11
I just won an IBM Wheelwriter 6 typewriter in a raffle here on campus.
Since I have a nice computer, and really need the cash, I'm putting it up
for sale. I have an offer from a local reseller for $250. Best offer
above that plus shipping.
...brian
Northwestern University - Economics & International Studies
b-olson@nwu.edu Brian David Olson
bdolson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu bdolson@cica.es
bdolson@merle.acns.nwu.edu bdolson@sevaxu.cica.es
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5314 | From: ellens@bnr.ca (Chris Ellens)
Subject: Re: HD Setup Partition (Was: OK to set 54 lbs on top of Centris 610???
Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarm422
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
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In article <1993Apr15.143516.17221@urbana.mcd.mot.com>,
feldman@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Mike Feldman) wrote:
>
>
> Now if I can figure out if there's any hope using the "partition" button
> on the hard disk setup utility (do I dare just try it and see what happens?),
> then maybe I can divide up the wealth among the family members a bit more
> securly. The "getting more information" section of the manual suggested
> trying other avenues before calling Apple, but didn't mention the net.
> --
> Mike Feldman, Motorola Computer Group, (217) 384-8538, FAX (217) 384-8550
> 1101 East University Avenue Pager in IL (800) 302-7738, (217) 351-0009
> Urbana, IL 61801-2009 (mcdphx|uiucuxc)!udc!feldman feldman@urbana.mcd.mot.com
The Partition button in Apple's HD Setup lets you set up A/UX and other
types of partitions. It WON'T let you create more than one normal mac
volume. You need SilverLining or something similar to do that. It WILL,
however, allow you to take advantage of some possible unused space on your
hard disk, if you don't mind reformatting the whole thing.
Chris Ellens ellens@bnr.ca
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5315 | From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Toyota wagons
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Lines: 15
In article <1993Apr5.213032.26844@pmafire.inel.gov> russ@pmafire.inel.gov (Russ Brown) writes:
>In article <1pq6bl$9rj@news.ysu.edu> ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>>Has anybody noticed that Toyota has an uncanny knack for designing horrible
>>ugly station wagons? Tercels, Corollas, Camrys. Have their designers no
>>aesthetic sense at all?
>>--
>The new Camry Wagon may just be even uglier than my Tercel. :-)
toyota has cornered the market on ugly station wagons.
after seeing the new camry sedan, i had thought toyota would
finally turn out something nice-looking. the new camry station
wagon bears a strong resemblance to a hearse, and a weird looking
one at that.
-teddy
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5316 | From: kempmp@phoenix.oulu.fi (Petri Pihko)
Subject: Re: Atheist's views on Christianity (was: Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart...")
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
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First, I thank collectively all people who have given good answers
to my questions. In my follow-up to Jason Smith's posting, I will
address some issues that have caused misunderstanding:
Jason Smith (jasons@atlastele.com) wrote:
> In article <Apr.19.05.13.48.1993.29266@athos.rutgers.edu> kempmp@phoenix.oulu.fi (Petri Pihko) writes:
> I also concede that I was doubly remiss, as I asserted "No reasonable
> alternative exists", an entirely subjective statement on my part (and one
> that could be invalidated, given time and further discovery by the
> scientist). I also understand that a proving a theory does not necessarily
> specify that "this is how it happened", but proposes a likely description of
> the phenomena in question. Am I mistaken with this understanding?
Yes, to some degree. There was an excellent discussion in sci.skeptic
on the nature of scientific work two weeks ago, I hope it did not
escape your notice.
The correct word is 'likely'. There is no way to be sure our models and
theories are absolutely correct. Theories are backed up by evidence,
but not proved - no theory can be 'true' in a mathematical sense.
However, theories are not mere descriptions or rationalisations of
phenomena. It is extremely important to test whether theories can
_predict_ something new or not yet observed. All successful theories
science has come up with have passed this test, including the Big
Bang theory of cosmic evolution, the theory of natural selection etc.
It does not mean they _must_ be correct, but they are not mere
'best fits' for the data.
> = But if you claim that there must be
> = an answer to "how" did the universe (our spacetime) emerge from
> = "nothing", science has some good candidates for an answer.
> All of which require something we Christians readily admit to: ``Faith''.
Well, yes, if you want to _believe_ in them. This is not what science
requires - take a good look at the theory and the evidence, see if
the theory has made any successful predictions, and use your reason.
Disbelievers are not punished.
> The fact that there are several candidates belies that *none* are conclusive.
> With out conclusive evidence, we are left with faith.
This is what puzzles me - why do we need to have faith in _anything_?
My fellow atheists would call me a weak atheist - someone who is
unable to believe, ie, fails to entertain any belief in God.
Yes, I know that one can't believe without God's help; Luther makes
this quite clear in his letter to Erasmus. I'm afraid this does not
change my situation.
> [ a couple of paragraphs deleted. Summary: we ask "Why does the
> universe exist" ]
> = I think this question should actually be split into two parts, namely
> =
> = 1) Why is there existence? Why anything exists?
> =
> = and
> =
> = 2) How did the universe emerge from nothing?
(deletions)
> = The question "why anything exists" can be countered by
> = demanding answer to a question "why there is nothing in nothingness,
> = or in non-existence". Actually, both questions turn out to be
> = devoid of meaning. Things that exist do, and things that don't exist
> = don't exist. Tautology at its best.
> Carefully examine the original question, and then the "counter-question".
> The first asks "Why", while the second is a request for definition.
No, it is not, although it does look like one. This is a true dichotomy,
either something exists, or nothing exists. If nothing exists, nobody
would ask why. If something exists, it is possible to ask why, but
actually no existing being could give an answer.
Imagine, for a moment, that the nobodies in non-existence could also
ask: "Why nothing exists?" This is equivalent to my counter-question,
"why nothing exists in nothingness".
Now, "why anything exists" is equivalent to "why something exists in
somethingness". _This_ is what I meant with my tautology, my apologies
for the poor wording in my previous post.
> I might add, the worldview of "Things that exist do, and things that
> don't...don't" is as grounded in the realm of the non-falsifiable,
> as does the theist's belief in God. It is based on the assumption
> that there is *not* a reason for being, something as ultimately
> (un)supportable as the position of there being a reason. Its very
> foundation exists in the same soil as that of one who claims there *is* a
> reason.
I do indeed think there probably _is_ no reason for being, or existence,
in general, for reasons I stated above. However, they will still
leave open the question "why this, and not that", and this is where
theistic explanations come in.
Science cannot give reasons for any _particular_ human being's existence.
> We come to this. Either "I am, therefore I am.", or "I am for a reason."
This is a deep philosophical question - is determinism true, or not?
Also, is God deterministic or not? I tend to think this question has
no meaning in His case.
If I am for a reason, I've yet failed to see what it would be.
From our perspective, it looks like 'I' exist for truly random
reasons. I just rolled two dice - why did I get 6 and 1? How can
I believe there is any better reason for my existence?
> If the former is a satisfactory answer, then you are done, for you are
> satisfied, and need not a doctor. If the latter, your search is just
> beginning.
Yes, I am satisfied with this reason, until I find something better.
My 15 years of Christianity were of no help in this respect, I have
to admit, but I am patient.
> = Another answer is that God is the _source_ of all existence.
> = This sounds much better, but I am tempted to ask: Does God
> = Himself exist, then? If God is the source of His own existence,
> = it can only mean that He has, in terms of human time, always
> = existed. But this is not the same as the source of all existence.
> This does not preclude His existence. It only seeks to identify His
> *qualities* (implying He exists to *have* qualities, BTW).
No, it doesn't, but I think an existing God cannot know why He exists,
for an answer to this question is not knowable. Of course, this
should not be any obstacle to belief in His existence.
> I also have discovered science is an inadequate tool to answer "why". It
> appears that M. Pihko agrees (as we shall see). But because a tool is
> inadequate to answer a question does not preclude the question. Asserting
> that 'why' is an invalid question does not provide an answer.
It is impossible to know unknowable things. However, the question
"why do I exist, in particular" is _not_ an invalid question - this
is not what I said. But from our perspective, it is impossible to
tell, and I can't just believe in any given explanation instead of
another, especially since I found I was deluding myself.
> My apologies. I was using why as "why did this come to be". Why did
> pre-existence become existence. Why did pre-spacetime become spacetime.
I think "pre-existence" is an oxymoron. There is no time 'outside' of
this spacetime (except in some other universe), and from that
perspective, our universe never was. It exists only for those who
are inside it.
> But we come to the admission that science fails to answer "Why?". Because
> it can't be answered in the realm of modern science, does that make the
> question invalid?
No. The validity of the question has to be discussed separately; I think
philosophy is of great help here. What can be known, and what is not
knowable?
> M. Pihko does present a good point though. We may need to ask "What do I
> as an individual Christian base my faith on?" Will it be shaken by the
> production of evidence that shatters our "sacred cows" or will we seek to
> understand if a new discovery truly disagrees with what God *said* (and
> continues to say) in his Word?
This is a very good question. In trying to answer this, and numerous
other questions that bothered me, I finally found nothing to base
my faith on.
I think it would be honest if we all asked ourselves, "why do I believe"
or "why I don't believe".
Petri
--
___. .'*''.* Petri Pihko kem-pmp@ Mathematics is the Truth.
!___.'* '.'*' ' . Pihatie 15 C finou.oulu.fi Physics is the Rule of
' *' .* '* SF-90650 OULU kempmp@ the Game.
*' * .* FINLAND phoenix.oulu.fi -> Chemistry is The Game.
|
5317 | From: olds@helix.nih.gov (James Olds)
Subject: Thule roof rack with bike accessories: $100 take it all.
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Distribution: na
Lines: 11
For Sale: A Thule Car rack with 2 bike holder accessories.
Comes with Nissan Pathfinder brackets but you can buy the
appropriate ones for your car cheap.
Looking for $100.00 for everything. I live in the Bethesda area.
Thanks for your interest.
--
****************************************************************************
* James L. Olds Ph.D. Neural Systems Section *
* domain: olds@helix.nih.gov NINDS, NIH, Bethesda, MD. 20892 USA *
****************************************************************************
|
5318 | From: fhoward@hqsun7.us.oracle.com (Forrest Howard)
Subject: Re: Duo 230 crashes aftersleep
Nntp-Posting-Host: hqsun7.us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corp
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those
of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.
Lines: 33
Add me to the list of bugged 230 owners.
I had a bunch of problems regarding sleep/wakeup/restart with the 230 when
I first got it, both with and without the techworks ram. Finally it "died",
wouldn't start, until I opened the docking door (which snaps open) and
the machine came up fine, but with the clock a few decades off. Apple
replaced the processor board.
Now,
twice the machine has frozen (no mouse action)
twice the machine has refused to wake up. Acutally, the backlighting
came on, and the disk spins when the power adaptor is plugged in
(but not with a good battery).
The first time this happened removing both power adaptor and battery
for ~1 minute brought the machine back.
The second time this happened the machine wouldn't wake up until
powered down for about 30 minutes. The screen had what looked
like red horizontal lines accross it.
Both timse the file "fax modem preferences" has been corrupted
according to disinfectent).
I have removed all the fax and modem software, and the third party memory,
and am waiting to see if it happens again.
forrest
--
Forrest Howard
Oracle Corporation
500 Oracle Parkway
Box 65414
Redwood Shores, CA 94065
|
5319 | From: jmatkins@quads.uchicago.edu (Jonny A (Voltron))
Subject: Panasonic dot matrix printer: $165 complete
Reply-To: jmatkins@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Lines: 41
I would like to sell my dot matrix printer so I can upgrade to inkjet.
It is a "Panasonic KX-P1124 24 pin Multi-Mode Printer". Here are the
stats (from memory and the manual):
- 360x360 dot-printing for hi-res graphics, etc.
- VERY fast (up to 192 cps) printing in "printer-controlled" (as
opposed to Windows driver-controlled) printing
- Bidirectional printing for faster processing speed
- 5 fonts ("courier","prestige","bold ps","script","sans serif")
- Epson LQ-2500 and IBM Proprinter X24 printer emulation
- Can accept single sheets, envelopes, and 3 non-carbon copies by
friction feed
- Front or bottom paper feed
- 6KB buffer
I will send a sample document and a printed GIF/JPEG file to anyone
who wishes to send a SASE. With purchase (prepaid, please!), I will
include the following accessories:
- Manual
- cable (Centronics)
- remaining stack of tractor-fed paper (about .4")
- FREE copy of Windows printer driver (unless this is illegal, or if
it is included with Windows)
- FREE unregistered DOS shareware program ($2 registration, I think)
that apparently offers some word processing capabilities
from DOS
The last two will be on a disk (either size). I am asking for around
$165, but I am open to any (reasonable) offers. I am a college
student, so I cannot afford to buy a new printer without getting a
considerable portion of the money from this printer. This price
includes all above items, and shipping (probably UPS) is included as
well. I have the original box, but only one of the original Styrofoam
end pieces. I will use a towel on the other end (you get a free towel
too!!). Worked fine getting it here. The whole shebang might not fit
in the original box; I will figure this out after the offers come in.
Email any questions and offers. -Jon.
--
jmatkins@midway.uchicago.edu | jmatkins@ellis.uchicago.edu
|
5320 | From: gchin@ssf.Eng.Sun.COM (Gary Chin)
Subject: National Day of Prayer,5/6/93
Reply-To: gchin@ssf.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Lines: 20
This is an annual time of prayer organized by the Focus on the Family
organization. If you have not heard about it on your Christian radio
station or at your local church, call them and they may be able to
give you the information.
Many cities in the San Francisco bay area have local coordinators
organizing the time and the place to meet to pray. In San Francisco,
Oakland, Berkeley, San Jose, people will be meeting at ~12:15pm at
each city's City Hall.
Last year, I attended at the Mountain View city hall. It was a very
quiet and meaningful time of prayer.
|-------------------|
| Gary Chin |
| Staff Engineer |
| Sun Microsystems |
| Mt. View, CA |
| gchin@Eng.Sun.Com |
|-------------------|
|
5321 | From: rwf2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT WILLIAM FUSI)
Subject: Re: Recommendation for a front tire.
Organization: Lehigh University
Lines: 37
In article <C5HrxJ.ACE@unix.amherst.edu>, nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (Nathaniel M
endell) writes:
>Ken Orr (orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com) wrote:
>: In article <C5G7Hv.Cs@unix.amherst.edu> nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (Nathaniel
Mendell) writes:
>: >Steve Mansfield (smm@rodan.UU.NET) wrote:
>: >: Yes, my front tire is all but dead. It has minimal tread left, so it's
>: >: time for a new one. Any recommendations on a good tire in front? I'm
>: >: riding on an almost brand new ME55A in back.
>: >:
>: >: Steve Mansfield | The system we've learned says we're equal under la
w
>: >: smm@uunet.uu.net | But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will
fall
>: >: 1983 Suzuki GS550E | Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
>: >: DoD# 1718 | Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down.
>: >: Queensryche - Speak the Word.
>: >
>: >The best thing is to match front and back, no? Given that the 99A ("Perfect"
?)
>: >is such a good tire, just go with that one
>: >
>: The Me99a perfect is a rear. The match for the front is the Me33 laser.
>:
>: DOD #306 K.O.
>: AMA #615088 Orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com
>
>Yeah, what *he* said....<:)
>
>Nathaniel
>ZX-10
>DoD 0812
>AM
>Yes, you definitely need a front tire on a motorcycle....<grin>
--
|
5322 | From: pepke@dirac.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke)
Subject: Re: Societal basis for morality
Organization: Florida State University, but I don't speak for them
Lines: 13
In article <merlyn.735422443@digibd> merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy) writes:
>Prayer in school is legal; what is illegal is telling children
>what to pray, or not to pray. Many people confuse "you can't
>tell kids that they ought to pray now" with "kids aren't allowed
>to pray", possibly because so few kids do so without being told.
Or perhaps it's because they think that all governmental bodies should be in
the business of suppressing all beliefs other than their own, or else they're
some sort of Satanic Humanist Conspiracy.
It's the old "if you're not for us you're against us" bit.
-EMP
|
5323 | From: luriem@alleg.edu The Liberalizer (Michael Lurie)
Subject: Yankee Meditations.
Article-I.D.: alleg.1993Apr6.205911.2654
Organization: Allegheny College
Lines: 14
Do you realize that the yankees are paying Matt Nokes 2,500,000 dollars
this year!!!! GEESH. And Maas only gets 125,000.
By the way, the yankees are going to WIN IT ALL
Yankees are the BEST.
By the way, JT Snow, an ex-yankee, will be rookie of the year.
|
5324 | From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: DC-X update???
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Lines: 25
In article <schumach.734984753@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>Would the sub-orbital version be suitable as-is (or "as-will-be") for use
>as a reuseable sounding rocket?
DC-X as is today isn't suitable for this. However, the followon SDIO
funds will. A reusable sounding rocket was always SDIO's goal.
>Thank Ghod! I had thought that Spacelifter would definitely be the
>bastard Son of NLS.
So did I. There is a lot going on now and some reports are due soon
which should be very favorable. The insiders have been very bush briefing
the right people and it is now paying off.
However, public support is STILL critical. In politics you need to keep
constant pressure on elected officials.
Allen
--
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Lady Astor: "Sir, if you were my husband I would poison your coffee!" |
| W. Churchill: "Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it." |
+----------------------57 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX-----------------------+
|
5325 | From: gwittt@alleg.edu (Tom Gwitt)
Subject: Re: Mel Hall
Organization: Allegheny College
Lines: 11
In article <1993Apr17.212119.13901@coe.montana.edu> warped@cs.montana.edu
(Doug Dolven) writes:
>
> Has anyone heard anything about Mel Hall this season? I'd heard he
wasn't
> with the Yankees any more. What happened to him?
>
He is in Japan playing baseball.
--
Tom Gwitt gwittt@alleg.edu
|
5326 | From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Phillies
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego
Lines: 17
Nntp-Posting-Host: mbongo.ucsd.edu
In article <93108.164642RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>, RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes:
|> In article <1993Apr17.020347.9554@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com>,
|> prg@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com (Phil Gunsul) says:
...
|> ps: hey kids, take all those pictures of dead presidents out of your
|> parents' wallets and mail them to:
|>
|> bob vesterman
|>
And send him a shift key too...
--
Dave DeMers demers@cs.ucsd.edu
Computer Science & Engineering 0114 demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet
UC San Diego ...!ucsd!cs!demers
La Jolla, CA 92093-0114 (619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029
|
5327 | From: loss@fs7.ECE.CMU.EDU (Doug Loss)
Subject: Re: Crazy? or just Imaginitive?
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr21.205403.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>
>Unfortunately H. Beam Piper killed him self just weeks short of having his
>first book published, and have his ideas see light.. Such a waste.
>
>
Piper lived in my town (Williamsport, PA) when he killed himself. It
was in the early '60's. He had had more than a few books published by
that time, but he was down on his luck financially. Rumor was that he
was hunting urban pigeons with birdshot for food. He viewed himself as
a resourceful man, and (IMO) decided to check out gracefully if he
couldn't support himself. The worst part is that John Campbell, the
long-time editor of Astounding/Analog SF magazine had cut a check for
Piper's most recent story, and said check was in the mail. If Campbell
had known Piper's straits, I'm sure he would have phoned to say hang on.
Campbell was like that.
I wish it had happened differently. I always enjoyed Piper's stuff.
Doug Loss
|
5328 | From: eapu207@orion.oac.uci.edu (John Peter Kondis)
Subject: I need to make my VGA do shades.
Nntp-Posting-Host: orion.oac.uci.edu
Lines: 12
I have a routine that changes the color (RGB) attributes on my
VGA adapter, but it doesn't work in the mode that I need.
Specifically 68 hex. An obscure mode, of course, but I need to
change the zillions of colors to 64 shade greyscale, but I do
not have the correct memory address for the pointer I need.
PLEASE, someone, I need the starting address, or maybe somewhere
I can find it. Thank you.
John Kondis
eapu207@orion.oac.uci.edu
|
5329 | From: viola@asterix.uni-muenster.de (Jrg Viola)
Subject: Looking for Xt and Xaw
Organization: Westfaelischen Wilhelms-Universitaet, Muenster, Germany
Lines: 8
NNTP-Posting-Host: asterix.uni-muenster.de
I want to compile Xdvi and later perhaps Emacs 19 on a DEC Ultrix machine with
X installed. Unfortunately, Xt and Xaw libs and headers are missing. How can I
get them without having to compile the whole MIT distribution ?
Pleasy reply by email to: viola@yukawa.uni-muenster.de
Thanks in advance.
|
5330 | From: Dave Dal Farra <gpz750@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: Eating and Riding was Re: Drinking and Riding
X-Xxdate: Tue, 6 Apr 93 15:22:03 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarm41a
Organization: BNR Ltd.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Lines: 30
In article <PNAKADA.93Apr5140811@pnakada.oracle.com> Paul Nakada,
pnakada@oracle.com writes:
>
>What's the feeling about eating and riding? I went out riding this
>weekend, and got a little carried away with some pecan pie. The whole
>ride back I felt sluggish. I was certainly much more alert on the
>ride in. I'm sure others have the same feeling, but the strangest
>thing is that eating is usually the turnaround point of weekend rides.
>
>From now on, a little snack will do. I'd much rather have a get that
>full/sluggish feeling closer to home.
>
>-Paul
>--
>Paul Nakada | Oracle Corporation | pnakada@oracle.com
>DoD #7773 | '91 R100C | '90 K75S
>
To maintain my senses at their sharpest, I never eat a full meal
within 24 hrs of a ride. I've tried Slim Fast Lite before a
ride but found that my lap times around the Parliament Buildings suffered
0.1 secs. The resultant 70 pound weight loss over the summer
just sharpens my bike's handling and I can always look
forward to a winter of carbo-loading.
Obligatory 8:)
Dave D.F.
"It's true they say that money talks. When mine spoke it said
'Buy me a Drink!'."
|
5331 | From: pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto)
Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Mr. Clinton
Organization: Totally Unorganized
Lines: 48
In article <bontchev.735226256@fbihh> bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de writes:
<strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
<
<> Here's a simple way to convert the Clipper proposal to an unexceptionable
<> one: Make it voluntary.
<
<As usually, you are not reading. The proposal -does- say that it is a
<"voluntary program". This doesn't make it more desirable, though...
<
<> That is--you get high quality secure NSA classified technology if you agree
<> to escrow your key. Otherwise you are on your own.
<
<"Secure"? How do you know? Because NSA is trying to make you believe it?
<"Trust us." Yeah, right.
<
<"Otherwise you are on your own"? How do you know that tomorrow they
<will not outlaw encrypring devices that don't use "their" technology?
<Because they are promising you? Gee, they are not doing even that -
<read the proposal again.
One minor nitpick: It is not a proposal. It is a *DECISION* ... from their
point of view it is a DONE DEAL. The chips are being manufactured, it
obviously has been budgeted, the whole thing. THAT IS WHAT IS SO UPSETTING.
THIS WAS ALL DONE IN SECRET. Because they DIDN'T want the people to know
what was going on until it is too late.
Otherwise, I agree with you 100 percent.
How come it always takes someone who has lived under the Eastern Bloc to
remind us about how precious and fragile our liberties are?
Please, keep up the good work. Hopefully you will wake SOMEONE up...
<
<Regards,
<Vesselin
<--
<Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
<Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
<< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
<e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
--
pat@rwing.uucp [Without prejudice UCC 1-207] (Pat Myrto) Seattle, WA
If all else fails, try: ...!uunet!pilchuck!rwing!pat
WISDOM: "Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity,
and I am not sure about the former." - Albert Einstien
|
5332 | From: henrik@quayle.kpc.com
Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
Organization: NONE
Lines: 57
In article <C5qu5H.1IF@news.iastate.edu>, oyalcin@iastate.edu (Onur Yalcin) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr19.155856.8260@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes:
|> >In article <1993Apr17.185118.10792@ee.rochester.edu>, terziogl@ee.rochester.edu (Esin Terzioglu) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|>..[cancellum]...
|> >|>
|> >
|> >
henrik] Let me clearify Mr. Turkish;
henrik] ARMENIA is NOT getting "itchy". SHE is simply LETTING the WORLD KNOW
henrik] that SHE WILL NO LONGER sit there QUIET and LET TURKS get away with
henrik] their FAMOUS tricks. Armenians DO REMEMBER of the TURKISH invasion
henrik] of the Greek island of CYPRESS WHILE the world simply WATCHED.
Onur Yalcin] It is more appropriate to address netters with their names as
Onur Yalcin] they appear in their signatures (I failed to do so since you did
Onur Yalcin] not bother to sign your posting). Not only because it is the
Onur Yalcin] polite thing to do, but also to avoid addressing ladies with
Onur Yalcin] "Mr.", as you have done.
Fine. Please, accept my opology !
Onur Yalcin] Secondly, the island of which the name is more correctly spelled
Onur Yalcin] as Cyprus has never been Greek, but rather, it has been home to
Onur Yalcin] a bi-communal society formed of Greeks and Turks. It seems that
^^^^^^^^^^^
Onur Yalcin] you know as little about the history and the demography of the
Onur Yalcin] island, as you know about the essence of Turkey's
Onur Yalcin] military intervention to it under international agreements.
bi-communal society ? Then why DID NOT Greece INVADE CYPRUS ?
Onur Yalcin] Be that as it may, an analogy between an act of occupation in
Onur Yalcin] history and what is going on today on Azerbaijani land, can only
Onur Yalcin] be drawn with the expansionist policy that Armenia is now pursuing.
Buch of CRAP and you know it. Nagarno-Karabagh has ALWAYS been PART
of ARMENIA and it was STALIN who GAVE IT to the AZERIS. Go back and
review the HISTORY.
The Armenians in Nagarno-Karabagh are simply DEFENDING their RIGHTS
to keep their homeland and it is the AZERIS that are INVADING their
teritory.
Onur Yalcin] But, I could agree that it is not for us to issue diagnoses to
Onur Yalcin] the political conduct of countries, and promulgate them in such
Onur Yalcin] terminology as "itchy-bitchy"...
I was not the one that STATED IT.
However, I hope that the Armenians WILL force a TURKISH airplane
to LAND for purposes of SEARCHING for ARMS similar to the one
that happened last SUMMER. Turkey searched an AMERICAN plane
(carrying humanitarian aid) bound to ARMENIA.
|
5333 | From: dsou@btma57.nohost.nodomain
Subject: Speedstar 24X & Windows Enhanced Mode
Reply-To: dsou@btma57.nohost.nodomain ()
Lines: 17
Nntp-Posting-Host: 7.597
Hi,
I have a 486/66MHz SYS based PC with 8M RAM and a problem.
What is the best way to configure high memory with QEMM/386MAX ??
I have a SPEEDSTAR 24X video card and use Hyperdisk disk cache
software. The problem is running Windows 3.1 in Enhanced mode and
having any high memory to load stuff high?
Note :
I tried, as recommended to exclude the region A000-C7FF but Windows
insists on starting in Standard mode.
Any suggestions?
Dan
|
5334 | From: smale@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (Bryan Smale)
Subject: This year's biggest and worst (opinion)...
Keywords: NHL, awards
Organization: University of Waterloo
Lines: 55
I was thinking about who on each of the teams were the MVPs, biggest
surprises, and biggest disappointments this year. Now, these are just
my observations and are admittedly lacking because I have not had an
opportunity to see all the teams the same amount. Anyway....
MVP = most valuable player to his team both in terms of points and
in terms of leadership ("can't win without him")
Biggest surprise = the player who rose above expectation -- the player
that may have raised the level of his game to a new height, even
if that new level doesn't necessarily warrant an allstar berth
(includes those players who at the outset of the season, may not
even have been in the team's plans).
Biggest disappointment = the player from whom we expected more (e.g., I
picked Denis Savard in Montreal because with the new emphasis on
offence brought by Demers, shouldn't Savard have done better?)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Team Biggest Biggest
Team: MVP: Surprise: Disappointment:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Boston Bruins Oates D.Sweeney Wesley
Buffalo Sabres Lafontaine Mogilny Audette (jinx?)
Calgary Flames Roberts Reichel Petit
Chicago Blackhawks Roenick Ruuttu Goulet
Detroit Red Wings Yzerman Chaisson Kozlov
Edmonton Oilers Manson Buchberger Mellanby
Hartford Whalers Sanderson Cassells Corriveau
Los Angeles Kings Robitaille Donnelly Hrudey
Minnesota North Stars Modano Tinordi(not expected back) Broten
Montreal Canadiens Muller Lebeau Savard
New Jersey Devils Stevens Semak MacLean
New York Islanders Turgeon King(finally) Marois
New York Rangers Messier Kovalev Bourque
Ottawa Senators MacIver Baker Jelinek
Philadelphia Flyers Lindros/Recchi Fedyk/Galley Eklund
Pittsburgh Penguins Lemieux Tocchet(even for him) Jagr
Quebec Nordiques Sakic/Ricci Kovalenko Pearson
San Jose Sharks Kisio Gaudreau Maley
St Louis Blues Shanahan C.Joseph Ron Sutter
Tampa Bay Lightening Bradley Bradley Creighton/Kasper
Toronto Maple Leafs Gilmour Potvin Ellett/Anderson
Vancouver Canucks Bure Nedved(finally) Momesso
Washington Capitals Hatcher Bondra/Cote Elynuik
Winnipeg Jets Selanne Selanne Druce
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As I mentioned up top, these are my *impressions* from where I sit. I
would welcome any opinions from those fans nearer their teams (in other
words, *anywhere* away from a Toronto newspaper!)
Bryan
|
5335 | From: cosmo@pro-angmar.alfalfa.com (Frank Benson)
Subject: Serdar
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Lines: 5
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
What are you, retarded?
---
ProLine: cosmo@pro-angmar
Internet: cosmo@pro-angmar.alfalfa.com
UUCP: uunet!bu.edu!alphalpha!pro-angmar!cosmo
|
5336 | From: cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah)
Subject: Re: Israeli Terrorism
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 20
Reply-To: cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
m.z.magil writes:
>It surprises me that this "story" has not yet made it to
>the front pages of the major newspapers (which love to make the State of
>Israel look as evil as humanly possible)! Such a story would be "eaten up"
>by some of the papers over here. So please explain to me why I have never
>seen nor heard of it before! - Believe me, I'm not expecting a reply because
>we both know where the story came from... YOUR DREAMS!!!!
i would like to remind my jewish colleague mzm that much of the
stories of the holocaust (including the ones in the u.s. holocaust
memorial museum) were *not* eaten up by some of the papers.
we just have to wait to build muesums for it..
--
___________________ cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu _____________
(______ _ | _ |_
_____ H A M Z A ________) |-| |_ |-| | | foo i.e. most foo
|
5337 | From: keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys)
Subject: Re: Necessity of fuel injector cleaning by dealership
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology
Lines: 58
In article <1993Apr6.131018.12873@acd4.acd.com> jwg@sedv1.acd.com ( Jim Grey) writes:
>In article <1993Apr2.174850.6289@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount) writes:
>>
>>In your experience, how true is it that a fuel injector cleaning
>>will do much more good than just using detergent gas. While I
>>agree that a clogged fuel injector would darken my day, how clogged
>>do they get, and is $59 a good price (or can I do it myself by buying
>>a can of ____ (what?) and doing ___ what?
>
>
>A "fuel injector cleaning" at the dealer is probably little more than
>them opening your gas tank, dumping in a bottle of fuel injector cleaner,
>and sending you on your merry way $59 poorer. Go to KMart and buy the
>cleaner yourself for $1.29.
Personally, i wouldn't use the $1.29 product from KMart. I knew about
this previously, but this past weekend on PBS's MotorWeek Pat Goss
(their resident tech type) discussed these products, and recommends
not using them (i.e, the non-isopropyl alcohlo based injector cleaners).
Supposedly only the isopropyl based cleaners actually remove moisture
from your fuel tank as they clean your injectors. And although the
others (ethyl based) do clean injectors they also cause rubber
components in the fuel system to deteriorate, and they don't mix well
with water to help remove it from the fuel system.
I use a product recommended by VW called 44K (by BG Products, Inc.).
It cost more about $14.00, but it is supposed to do the job without
the potential harmful side effects, and its results are supposed to
last from 2k to 4k miles. I have also used Chevron's Techtrolene (sp?).
I can't say that i have noticed any difference using either, since i
only use these product as a preventative maintenance item.
>
>Just because you dealer sez you need it, don't mean it's necessarily so.
>Be suspicious.
>
>jim grey
>jwg@acd4.acd.com
.
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5338 | From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Subject: Re: The 'pill' for Deer = No Hunting
Lines: 117
In article <PA146008.710.734831135@utkvm1.utk.edu>, PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) writes:
> In article <1993Apr14.182610.2330@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>
>>In article <1993Apr14.120958.11363@synapse.bms.com>, hambidge@bms.com writes:
>>> Self defense is a valid reason for RKBA.
>>
>> The vast majority get through life without ever having to
>> own, use or display a firearm.
>
> You might have missed the U.S. News & World Report excerpt
> I posted. It is fairly consistant with other such polls, finding
> that approximately 40-50% of households have at least one firearm.
> How this translates into individual ownership is questionable, but I
> think it's fairly safe to say that you're wrong about the "vast majority."
OK ... a near-majority actually OWN firearms, but I will still
claim that the VAST majority never needs to use them or even
threaten anyone with them. What do they do right ... or are
they just lucky ? In either case, this means the 'average
threat level' in this country is rather low.
>> Besides, there are other
>> means of self-protection which can be just as effective
>> as firearms.
>
> Please name them. The key phrase is "can be." Theories are
> nice, but practicality is more important. A taser (to chose an
> exmpale outlawed virtually everywhere) "can" be as effective as a gun,
> under optimal conditions when dealing with your absolute average
> [...]
I think you have weapons on the brain. I never said that these
alternative means of self-protection involved any hardware.
Why are 'good' neighborhoods 'good' ? It isn't because every
person is armed to the teeth. It is because of (1) attitude
and (2) cooperation. In the 'good' neighborhoods, the residents
make themselves aware of their neighbors and notice when
strangers are lurking around. 'Good' neighborhoods form groups
like 'crime-watch' to increase this effect, and the relative
effectiveness of the police. When hostiles are arrested, the
good neighbors step up and say "THAT'S the one officer ! He
was robbing Mr. Jones' house".
In short, the alternative to firepower is gangs ... or at
least a benificent manifestation of that social cooperative.
Replace lead with flesh ... the flesh makes a better
conversationalist too and you can invite it over for a
block party.
>>> Freedoms and rights are not dependent on public opinion, necessity, or
>>> scientific scrutiny.
>>
>> New to this planet ? EVERYTHING is dependent on either public
>> or political opinion, usually political. To imagine that
>> inalienable 'rights' are somehow wired into the vast cold
>> cosmos is purest egotism and a dangerous delusion.
>
> In a very real sense *everything* the government does is based
> on public approval, if for no other reason than at any particular time
> there aren't "public servants" commonly adorning trees.
>
> But legality and legitimacy also matter. If a government's charter
> makes a rule, which the government then violates, it is violated the
> basis for its existance. Enforcement of its will becomes a matter
> solely of force of arms.
Oliver North. The man is positively worshiped in many
all-American 'conservative' quarters. He and Big Ron
set-up a secret government and did all sorts of severely
illegal deeds - the kind of stuff you and I would be doing
twenty-to-life for, yet he walks free. This BS happens all
the time. In fact, it happens so much that no one really
cares anymore. 'Legitimacy' is a non-issue. Legality is
a non-issue. So long as we get T-bones and our MTV, who
gives a rats ass ?
>>> No arguments against RKBA can withstand scientific scrutiny.
>>
>> They don't have to. Like so many other things, the issue
>> is one of -perception- rather than boring statistics.
>
> Excuse me, sir, but *you* were the one suggesting that arguments
> for RKBA would not stand up to scientific scrutiny.
No. I claimed that no one is interested in the statistical
aspects of the argument. Pure emotion, like the abortion issue.
>> Every time some young innocent is gunned-down in a drive
>> by, every time some kid is murdered for a jacket, every
>> time a store clerk is executed for three dollars in change,
>> every time some moron kills his wife because she took the
>> last beer from the fridge, every time someone hears a 'bang'
>> in the night .... the RKBA dies.
>
> Emotion is hard to argue against. But it must be done anyway if
> emotion is wrong.
Argue away ... you can't win.
>> The stats are not all *that*
>> clearly behind firearms -
>
> And just yesterday you claimed they weren't behind them at
> all.
>
>> the protection factor does not
>> strongly outweigh the mindless mayhem factor.
>
> Operating under the assumption that the same conditions absolutely
> govern both of them. That the expansion of one automatically necessitates
> the contraction of the other.
Firearms-related mindless mayhem will be related to the
availibility of firearms. If they become scarce and
and expensive, a different psychology will take hold.
I *think* they would be used far less to settle trivial
complaints.
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5339 | From: gene@jackatak.raider.net (Gene Wright)
Subject: mac portable internal fax modems
Organization: Jack's Amazing CockRoach Capitalist Ventures
Lines: 8
Does anyone know where I can still get an internal fax modem for the
original mac portable? I know they were made for a while by several
manufacturers, but I can't find them now. thanks for your help.
Gene Wright
--
gene@jackatak.raider.net (Gene Wright)
------------jackatak.raider.net (615) 377-5980 ------------
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5340 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: Objective Values 'v' Scientific Accuracy (was Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is)
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 17
In article <930419.122738.5s2.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew
<mathew@mantis.co.uk> wrote:
>
> lpzsml@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (Steve Lang) writes:
> > Values can also refer to meaning. For example in computer science the
> > value of 1 is TRUE, and 0 is FALSE.
>
> Not in Lisp.
True, all you need to define is one statement that defined one
polarity, and all the other states are considered the other
polarity. Then again what is the meaning of nil, false or true :-) ?
Cheers,
Kent
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sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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5341 | From: ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca)
Subject: Sparky Anderson Gets win #2000, Tigers beat A's
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan, U.S.A.
Lines: 36
NNTP-Posting-Host: vela.acs.oakland.edu
Tigers' manager Sparky Anderson gets his 2,000th career win as moments ago,
the Tigers completed a two game sweep over the Oakland A's at Tiger Stadium
by beating the A's 3-2. Here are the highlights:
R H E
Oakland 2 9 0
Detroit 3 7 1
Chad Krueter scored Skeeter Barnes from 1st with an RBI double in the
bottom of the ninth against none other than Dennis Eckersley to give the
Tigers the victory. Barnes also had an RBI single to score Thurmond to
tie the score in the ninth, also off Eckersley (sp?).
The A's got their runs on an RBI single by McGwire in the 1st and a solo
homer by Reuben Sierra in the 6th. Deer doubled home Kirk Gibson in the
7th for the other Tiger run.
John Doherty pitched another strong game for the Tigers, once again lasting
through the seventh inning. He was relieved by Bolton and then David Haas
in the 8th, and Haas got the win. Bobby Witt started for the A's, and was
replaced by Honeycutt in the 6th, followed by Goose Gossage in the 8th, and
finally Eckersly in the 9th. Doherty gave up both of the A's runs, while
Witt gave up the first Tiger run and Eckerseley gave up the last two.
In the post game interview (on WJR radio in Detroit), Sparky Anderson said
its one of the few times he's gotten emotional in his managing career. It
was a big moment for him, and I'm sure all of us Tiger fans are unanimously
very happy for him. And what a way to get number 2,000!.
Considering the circumstances, I think it might be appropriate to say:
WOOF! Go Tigers!
--Randy
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5342 | From: terziogl@ee.rochester.edu (Esin Terzioglu)
Subject: Re: Public Service Translation No.2
Keywords: effective Greek & Armenian postings
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science
In article <1993Apr16.225409.22697@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes:
>In article <93332@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1091a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt1091a gt1091a
>KAAN,TIMUCIN) wrote:
>
>[KAAN] Who the hell is this guy David Davidian. I think he talks too much..
>
>I am your alter-ego!
>
>[KAAN] Yo , DAVID you would better shut the f... up.. O.K ??
>
>No, its' not OK! What are you going to do? Come and get me?
Maybe he will. Maybe he is working for the secret Turkish service. You never
know.
>[KAAN] I don't like your attitute. You are full of lies and shit.
>
>In the United States we refer to it as Freedom of Speech. If you don't like
No it is still called "you are full of shit"; even in the US.:)
>[KAAN] Didn't you hear the saying "DON'T MESS WITH A TURC!!"...
>
>No. Why do you ask? What are you going to do? Are you going to submit me to
>bodily harm? Are you going to kill me? Are you going to torture me?
Well, now you have. Don't worry Turks do not turn to terrorist actions like
Armenians have so you can be sure that you will not be killed. However, I
do not know about the torture part... Timucin sounds like a tough guy so
watch out.
>[KAAN] See ya in hell..
>
>Wrong again!
>
>[KAAN] Timucin.
>
>All I did was to translate a few lines from Turkish into English. If it was
>so embarrassing in Turkish, it shouldn't have been written in the first place!
>Don't kill the messenger!
If you are going to translate, you have to do it consistently. If you
selectively translate things to serve your ugly purpose, people get
pisssssssssed offfffff.
In Ottoman times messengers were usually killed by cutting their heads off and
sending it back to their country. But Ottoman empire no longer exists :(.
(darn!)
Esin.
>--
>David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
>S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
>P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
>Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
|
5343 | From: yb025@uafhp..uark.edu (John Schiefer)
Subject: Food coupons
Summary: Deal of century
Keywords: holmes
Article-I.D.: moe.1pt03p$h08
Organization: Kansas State University
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: uafhp.uark.edu
Looking to save money? I am your man. I will mail you
$5 in food coupons for only$2.50. Or you will get twice the dollar amount
of coupons. So mail $15 and get $30 dollars in coupons. Sounds like a great
deal well it is. Send SASE to 766 S.Elizabeth St. Salt Lake City, Utah 84102
enclose money in form of a money order. Personally, I would not trust a person
to send coupons after money is sent. Well, let me earn your trust. Send
$1 dollar, and I'll send you your $2 in store coupons.
Then we'll talk more
e-mail enquiries to yb025@uafhp.uark.edu
Thank you,
John Schiefer
|
5344 | From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes?
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 17
In article <Apr.14.03.07.21.1993.5402@athos.rutgers.edu> randerso@acad1.sahs.uth.tmc.edu (Robert Anderson) writes:
>I would like to get your opinions on this: when exactly does an engaged
>couple become "married" in God's eyes?
Not if they are unwilling to go through a public marriage ceremony,
nor if they say they are willing but have not actually done so.
Let's distinguish _real_ logistical problems (like being stranded on a
desert island) from _excuses_ (such as waiting for so-and-so's brother
to come back from being in the army so he can be in the ceremony)...
--
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:- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *********
:- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * *
:- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><
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5345 | From: hl7204@eehp22 (H L)
Subject: Re: Graphics Library Package
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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5346 | From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: 14 Apr 93 God's Promise in 1 John 1: 7
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Lines: 47
brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes:
>
>Brian Kendig contorts . . .
>
>> It can not be a light which cleanses
>> if it is tainted with the blood
>> of an innocent man.
>
>. . . now showing how Brian Kendig is in the dark of the
>most fundamental basic of the Old Testament. Concepts like
>santification and Lev. 17:11 must be foreign to you. Too bad
>you are not interested in understanding. Too bad you prefer
>blurting folly even to your own shame.
Lev 17:11: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given
it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is
the blood that makes atonement for the soul.
The Old Testament was very big on the "eye for an eye" business. It
makes sense that Leviticus would support physical injury to "repay"
moral wrongdoing.
I know about sanctification. I've been taught all about it in Sunday
school, catechism class, and theology classes. But even after all
that, I still can't accept it. Maybe I'm still not understanding it,
or maybe I'm just understanding it all too well.
From the bottom of my heart I know that the punishment of an innocent
man is wrong. I've tried repeatedly over the course of several years
to accept it, but I just can't. If this means that I can't accept the
premise that a god who would allow this is 'perfectly good', then so
be it.
> What ignorance you can show us next? I guess I'll wait
>till tomorrow.
If you can explain to me why the death of Jesus was a *good* thing,
then I would be very glad to hear it, and you might even convert me.
Be warned, however, that I've heard all the most common arguments
before, and they just don't convince me.
--
_/_/_/ Brian Kendig Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/ bskendig@netcom.com de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/ n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
/ The meaning of life Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
/ is that it ends. -- Rousseau
|
5347 | From: jls@atglab.atg.com (Jerome Schneider)
Reply-To: jls@atg.com
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Out of environment space running BAT files from Windows
Organization: Aspen Technology Group
X-Mailer: UUPC/bsnews 2.1 modified
Lines: 42
>I have a .BAT file that I run under a Windows Icon. I have set up a PIF
>file to run the BAT file in exclusive mode and to use the entire screen.
>The first line of the BAT file sets an environment variable.
>
>My problem is that on some of our machines (running MS-DOS 5.0 and Windows
>3.1 in enhanced mode), the SET command in the BAT file fails with the
>OUT OF ENVIRONMENT SPACE error. I have raised the amount of environment
>space to 2048 bytes using the SHELL command in CONFIG.SYS so I know that
>I am nowhere near to running out.
(From the Windows Resource Toolkit (for Win4Workgroups)), add an entry to
your "system.ini" file under the [NonWindowsApp] section:
CommandEnvSize=NNNN
"This sets the COMMAND.COM env size, where NNNN must either be 0 or
between 160 and 32768. A value of 0 disables the setting. If this
value is too small or too big, it is rounded up to 160 or down to 32768.
If the value is less than the current size of the actual environment,
this setting is disabled, as if it were 0. If you specify the
environment size in a PIF file for COMMAND.COM, the PIF setting
overrides this setting. The default is 0 with MSDOS versions earlier
than 3.2. Otherwise, the default value is the /e: option in the
SHELL= command in CONFIG.SYS. To set this value, you must edit your
SYSTEM.INI [and reboot]."
I have used this entry, as well as relied on the default /e: from
the CONFIG.SYS shell= line, and both give larger environments. If
you don't use one of these, then the environment passed by windows
to each new DOS box is just a little bit bigger than the environment
_variables_ present when windows was started. (No matter how big
the DOS env was, when windows starts, it truncates all unused space
except for a few bytes.) This should allow your batch file to run,
but your mileage may vary.
--
Jerome (Jerry) Schneider Domain: jls@atg.COM
Aspen Technology Group UUCP: {uunet}!csn!atglab!jls
PO Box 673, Ft. Collins, CO 80522 Voice: (303) 484-1488
|
5348 | From: bryanw@rahul.net (Bryan Woodworth)
Subject: Re: CView answers
Keywords: Stupid Programming
Nntp-Posting-Host: bolero
Organization: a2i network
Lines: 18
In <1qlobb$p5a@tuegate.tue.nl> renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter) writes:
[Most info regarding dangers of reading from Floppy disks omitted]
>unrevcoverable way. SO BE CAREFUL! It is incredibly poor programming for a
>program to do this. On the other hand, when choosing files in the Open Files
>menu, CView insists on doing a few disk reads every time one moves the
>hi-lighter square. Incredibly annoying when it could do them all at once
>when it gets the directory info. And really, how much effort does it take to
>sort a directory listing?
In all fairness, how many people do you know personally who read images
from Floppy drives? I haven't tried it with JPEGs, but I do realize how
agonizingly slow it is with GIF files.
Nevertheless, it is an important bug that needs to be squashed. I am
merely pointing out that it was probably overlooked. While it is serious,
one must keep in mind that it will probably affect at most 5% of the
targeted users of CView.
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5349 | From: bethd@netcom.com (Beth Dixon)
Subject: Re: Women's Jackets? (was Ed must be a Daemon Child!!)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Lines: 44
In article <1993Apr14.141637.20071@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jhensley@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Hensley) writes:
>Beth Dixon (bethd@netcom.com) wrote:
>: new Duc 750SS doesn't, so I'll have to go back to carrying my lipstick
>: in my jacket pocket. Life is _so_ hard. :-)
>
>My wife is looking for a jacket, and most of the men's styles she's tried
>don't fit too well. If they fit the shoulders and arms, they're too
>tight across the chest, or something like that. Anyone have any
>suggestions? I'm assuming that the V-Pilot, in addition to its handy
>storage facilities, is a pretty decent fit. Is there any company that
>makes a reasonable line of women's motorcycling stuff? More importantly,
>does anyone in Boulder or Denver know of a shop that bothers carrying any?
I was very lucky I found a jacket I liked that actually _fits_.
HG makes the v-pilot jackets, mine is a very similar style made
by Just Leather in San Jose. I bought one of the last two they
ever made.
Finding decent womens motorcycling gear is not easy. There is a lot
of stuff out there that's fringed everywhere, made of fashion leather,
made to fit men, etc. I don't know of a shop in your area. There
are some women rider friendly places in the San Francisco/San Jose
area, but I don't recommend buying clothing mail order. Too hard
to tell if it'll fit. Bates custom makes leathers. You might want
to call them (they're in L.A.) and get a cost estimate for the type
of jacket your wife is interested in. Large manufacturers like
BMW and H.G. sell women's lines of clothing of decent quality, but
fit is iffy.
A while ago, Noemi and Lisa Sieverts were talking about starting
a business doing just this sort of thing. Don't know what they
finally decided.
Beth
=================================================================
Beth [The One True Beth] Dixon bethd@netcom.com
1981 Yamaha SR250 "Excitable Girl" DoD #0384
1979 Yamaha SR500 "Spike the Garage Rat" FSSNOC #1843
1992 Ducati 750SS AMA #631903
1963 Ducati 250 Monza -- restoration project 1KQSPT = 1.8
"I can keep a handle on anything just this side of deranged."
-- ZZ Top
=================================================================
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5350 | From: yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi)
Subject: Griffin / Office of Exploration: RIP
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Lines: 19
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: yuggoth.ces.cwru.edu
Any comments on the absorbtion of the Office of Exploration into the
Office of Space Sciences and the reassignment of Griffin to the "Chief
Engineer" position? Is this just a meaningless administrative
shuffle, or does this bode ill for SEI?
In my opinion, this seems like a Bad Thing, at least on the surface.
Griffin seemed to be someone who was actually interested in getting
things done, and who was willing to look an innovative approaches to
getting things done faster, better, and cheaper. It's unclear to me
whether he will be able to do this at his new position.
Does anyone know what his new duties will be?
--
_______________________________________________________________________________
Brian Yamauchi Case Western Reserve University
yamauchi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu Department of Computer Engineering and Science
_______________________________________________________________________________
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5351 | From: gtewing@unix2.tcd.ie (Gregory T. Ewing)
Subject: Gamecards
Summary: Gamecards
Keywords: Gamecards
Nntp-Posting-Host: unix2.tcd.ie
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Lines: 15
I own an 80386sx, 16Mhz, 2Mb ram machine and am finding it too slow for
certain games such as X-wing. I was in a Computer store there the other
day and saw a series of Gamecards which claim to speed up your machine
to up to 80Mhz! I was wondering if anyone out there who has a similar
machine had bought one or seen one of these Gamecards and whether or not
they do actually work!
Any help here would be much appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Greg.
--
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| When a man lies he murders some part of the world..................|
| or does he....?.......EGGMAN...............|
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5352 | From: ac151@Freenet.carleton.ca (David Clarke)
Subject: DOS 6 / EMM386 / Windows 3.1 PROB
Reply-To: ac151@Freenet.carleton.ca (David Clarke)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 22
Has anyone else experienced problems with windows hanging
after the installation of DOS 6? I have narrowed the
problem down to EMM386.
If if remove (or disable) EMM386, windows is ok. If EMM386
is active, with NOEMS, windows hangs. If I use AUTO with
EMM386, the system hangs on bootup.
Dave.
--
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David Clarke ...the well is deep...wish me well...
ac151@Freenet.carleton.ca David_Clarke@mtsa.ubc.ca clarkec@sfu.ca
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5353 | From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Subject: The Israeli Press
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Lines: 20
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu
Andy Beyer has claimed that the Israeli Press is a bit biased.
But the fact is that there are events shaping the politics of the
mideast that people who do not read the Israeli press simply know
nothing about. Many of these events are not even mentioned here.
I read the Israeli press to learn of important events about which
you know nothing, because of your total reliance on western media
for your information on Israel. Since I read both American media
and Israeli media, I can say with absolute certainty that anybody
who reliesx exclusively on the American press for knowledge about
Israel does not have a true picture of what is going on.
As to the claim that Israeli papers are biased, of course they
are. Some may lean to the right or the left, just like the media
here in America. But they still report events about which people
here know nothing. I choose to form my opinions about Israel and
the mideast based on more knowledge than does an average American
who relies exclusively on an American media which does not report
on events in the mideast with any consistency or accuracy.
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5354 | From: minh@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Minh Anh Pham)
Subject: <><><><>SIPPs MEMORY FORSALE<><><><>
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Lines: 23
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu
<><><><> SIPPs FOR SALE <><><><>
I have 16 SIPPs for sale. I upgraded a few systems memory, so I don't need
these no more. They are:
11- 256x9 SIPPs @70NS
5- 256X9 SIPPs @80NS
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4 MEG TOTAL ALL FOR $110
OR 4 (1 MEG) FOR $27
NOTE: SIPPs are gernally more expensive then SIMMs
These SIPPs are in good working condition........
Buyer pay shipping/handling.
If interested reply to:
minh@wpi.wpi.edu
--
Minh Pham
E-mail: minh@wpi.wpi.edu
Worcester Polytechnical Institute
|
5355 | Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
From: Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu>
Subject: Re: Guns GONE. Good Riddance !
Lines: 18
In article <1993Apr18.000152.2339@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu says:
Ah I love posts like this. Many people have already replied to this one as I
knew they would. I'm not going to say much as this just seems like baiting to
me. Someone decided to post to see how many people would get mad and reply. I
am just going to ignore it but I do have one thing to say. See below.
>
>Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect
>them. Resistance is useless. They will overwhelm you - one at a time.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Listen buddy, if you're going to quote Star Trek get the quote right. It was
"Resistance is futile". Get it right the next time :-)
Jason - u28037@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
>
|
5356 | Subject: Diffs to sci.space/sci.astro Frequently Asked Questions
From: leech@cs.unc.edu (Jon Leech)
Expires: 6 May 1993 19:50:16 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Supersedes: <diffs_730956190@cs.unc.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler.cs.unc.edu
Lines: 294
Archive-name: space/diff
DIFFS SINCE LAST FAQ POSTING (IN POSTING ORDER)
(These are hand-edited context diffs; do not attempt to use them to patch
old copies of the FAQ).
===================================================================
diff -t -c -r1.18 FAQ.intro
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a06400 Thu Apr 1 14:47:22 1993
--- FAQ.intro Thu Apr 1 14:46:55 1993
***************
*** 101,107 ****
NASA Langley (Technical Reports)
NASA Spacelink
National Space Science Data Center
- Space And Planetary Image Facility
Space Telescope Science Institute Electronic Info. Service
Starcat
Astronomical Databases
--- 101,106 ----
***************
*** 130,135 ****
--- 129,135 ----
LLNL "great exploration"
Lunar Prospector
Lunar science and activities
+ Orbiting Earth satellite histories
Spacecraft models
Rocket propulsion
Spacecraft design
===================================================================
diff -t -c -r1.18 FAQ.net
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a06405 Thu Apr 1 14:47:24 1993
--- FAQ.net Thu Apr 1 14:46:57 1993
***************
*** 58,63 ****
--- 58,67 ----
elements are sent out on the list from Dr. Kelso, JSC, and other sources
as they are released. Email to elements-request@telesoft.com to join.
+ GPS Digest is a moderated list for discussion of the Global Positioning
+ System and other satellite navigation positioning systems. Email to
+ gps-request@esseye.si.com to join.
+
Space-investors is a list for information relevant to investing in
space-related companies. Email Vincent Cate (vac@cs.cmu.edu) to join.
***************
*** 223,227 ****
--- 227,241 ----
1030. If in fact you should should learn of unauthorized access, contact
NASA personnel.
+ Claims have been made on this news group about fraud and waste. None
+ have ever been substantiated to any significant degree. Readers
+ detecting Fraud, Waste, Abuse, or Mismanagement should contact the NASA
+ Inspector General (24-hours) at 800-424-9183 (can be anonymous) or write
+
+ NASA
+ Inspector General
+ P.O. Box 23089
+ L'enfant Plaza Station
+ Washington DC 20024
NEXT: FAQ #3/15 - Online (and some offline) sources of images, data, etc.
===================================================================
diff -t -c -r1.18 FAQ.data
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a06410 Thu Apr 1 14:47:26 1993
--- FAQ.data Thu Apr 1 14:46:54 1993
***************
*** 216,237 ****
Telephone: (301) 286-6695
Email address: request@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
-
-
- SPACE AND PLANETARY IMAGE FACILITY
-
- Available 24 hours a day via anonymous FTP from pioneer.unm.edu. Has
- approximately 150 CD-ROM's full of imagery, raw, and tabular data. To
- start, get the file:
-
- pioneer.unm.edu:pub/info/beginner-info
-
- This will hopefully give you all of the information you need to get data
- from their machine. beginner-info has been translated to other
- languages, you should look inside pub/info for the particular language
- that meets your needs.
-
- Contact help@pioneer.unm.edu.
SPACE TELESCOPE SCIENCE INSTITUTE ELECTRONIC INFORMATION SERVICE
--- 216,221 ----
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diff -t -c -r1.18 FAQ.math
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a06415 Thu Apr 1 14:47:28 1993
--- FAQ.math Thu Apr 1 14:46:56 1993
***************
*** 60,65 ****
--- 60,71 ----
Gives series to compute positions accurate to 1 arc minute for a
period + or - 300 years from now. Pluto is included but stated to
have an accuracy of only about 15 arc minutes.
+
+ _Multiyear Interactive Computer Almanac_ (MICA), produced by the US
+ Naval Observatory. Valid for years 1990-1999. $55 ($80 outside US).
+ Available for IBM (order #PB93-500163HDV) or Macintosh (order
+ #PB93-500155HDV). From the NTIS sales desk, (703)-487-4650. I believe
+ this is intended to replace the USNO's Interactive Computer Ephemeris.
_Interactive Computer Ephemeris_ (from the US Naval Observatory)
distributed on IBM-PC floppy disks, $35 (Willmann-Bell). Covers dates
===================================================================
diff -t -c -r1.18 FAQ.references
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a06420 Thu Apr 1 14:47:30 1993
--- FAQ.references Thu Apr 1 14:46:59 1993
***************
*** 93,100 ****
US Naval Observatory
202-653-1079 (USNO Bulletin Board via modem)
202-653-1507 General
- 202-653-1545 Nautical Almanac Office (info on the Interactive
- Computer Ephemeris)
Willmann-Bell
P.O. Box 35025
--- 93,98 ----
***************
*** 138,151 ****
SDI's SSRT (Single Stage Rocket Technology) project has funded a
suborbital technology demonstrator called DC-X that should fly in
mid-1993. Further development towards an operational single-stage to
! orbit vehicle is uncertain at present; for considerably more detail on
! the SSRT program, get the document
! ames.arc.nasa.gov:pub/SPACE/FAQ/DeltaClipper
! by anonymous FTP or through the email server.
HOW TO NAME A STAR AFTER A PERSON
Official names are decided by committees of the International
--- 136,151 ----
SDI's SSRT (Single Stage Rocket Technology) project has funded a
suborbital technology demonstrator called DC-X that should fly in
mid-1993. Further development towards an operational single-stage to
! orbit vehicle (called Delta Clipper) is uncertain at present.
! An collection of pictures and files relating to DC-X is available by
! anonymous FTP or email server in the directory
! bongo.cc.utexas.edu:pub/delta-clipper
+ Chris W. Johnson (chrisj@emx.cc.utexas.edu) maintains the archive.
+
HOW TO NAME A STAR AFTER A PERSON
Official names are decided by committees of the International
***************
*** 223,228 ****
--- 223,236 ----
University Press, 1970. Information about the Lunar Orbiter missions,
including maps of the coverage of the lunar nearside and farside by
various Orbiters.
+
+
+ ORBITING EARTH SATELLITE HISTORIES
+
+ A list of Earth orbiting satellites (that are still in orbit) is
+ available by anonymous FTP in:
+
+ ames.arc.nasa.gov:pub/SPACE/FAQ/Satellites
SPACECRAFT MODELS
===================================================================
diff -t -c -r1.18 FAQ.addresses
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a06435 Thu Apr 1 14:47:34 1993
--- FAQ.addresses Thu Apr 1 14:46:51 1993
***************
*** 75,80 ****
--- 75,85 ----
the latter, an SF 171 is useless. Employees are Caltech employees,
contractors, and for the most part have similar responsibilities.
They offer an alternative to funding after other NASA Centers.
+
+ A fact sheet and description of JPL is available by anonymous
+ FTP in
+
+ ames.arc.nasa.gov:pub/SPACE/FAQ/JPLDescription
NASA Johnson Manned Space Center (JSC)
Houston, TX 77058
===================================================================
diff -t -c -r1.18 FAQ.new_probes
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a06450 Thu Apr 1 14:47:38 1993
--- FAQ.new_probes Thu Apr 1 14:46:58 1993
***************
*** 8,13 ****
--- 8,19 ----
team, ISAS/NASDA launch schedules, press kits.
+ ASUKA (ASTRO-D) - ISAS (Japan) X-ray astronomy satellite, launched into
+ Earth orbit on 2/20/93. Equipped with large-area wide-wavelength (1-20
+ Angstrom) X-ray telescope, X-ray CCD cameras, and imaging gas
+ scintillation proportional counters.
+
+
CASSINI - Saturn orbiter and Titan atmosphere probe. Cassini is a joint
NASA/ESA project designed to accomplish an exploration of the Saturnian
system with its Cassini Saturn Orbiter and Huygens Titan Probe. Cassini
***************
*** 98,115 ****
MAGELLAN - Venus radar mapping mission. Has mapped almost the entire
! surface at high resolution. Currently (11/92) in mapping cycle 4,
! collecting a global gravity map.
MARS OBSERVER - Mars orbiter including 1.5 m/pixel resolution camera.
! Launched 9/24/92 on a Titan III/TOS booster. MO is currently (3/93) in
transit to Mars, arriving on 8/24/93. Operations will start 11/93 for
one martian year (687 days).
! TOPEX/Poseidon - Joint US/French Earth observing satellite, launched in
! August 1992 on an Ariane 4 booster. The primary objective of the
TOPEX/POSEIDON project is to make precise and accurate global
observations of the sea level for several years, substantially
increasing understanding of global ocean dynamics. The satellite also
--- 104,121 ----
MAGELLAN - Venus radar mapping mission. Has mapped almost the entire
! surface at high resolution. Currently (4/93) collecting a global gravity
! map.
MARS OBSERVER - Mars orbiter including 1.5 m/pixel resolution camera.
! Launched 9/25/92 on a Titan III/TOS booster. MO is currently (4/93) in
transit to Mars, arriving on 8/24/93. Operations will start 11/93 for
one martian year (687 days).
! TOPEX/Poseidon - Joint US/French Earth observing satellite, launched
! 8/10/92 on an Ariane 4 booster. The primary objective of the
TOPEX/POSEIDON project is to make precise and accurate global
observations of the sea level for several years, substantially
increasing understanding of global ocean dynamics. The satellite also
===================================================================
diff -t -c -r1.18 FAQ.astronaut
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a06465 Thu Apr 1 14:47:43 1993
--- FAQ.astronaut Thu Apr 1 14:46:52 1993
***************
*** 162,174 ****
specific standards:
Distant visual acuity:
! 20/100 or better uncorrected,
correctable to 20/20, each eye.
Blood pressure:
140/90 measured in sitting position.
! 3. Height between 60 and 76 inches.
Pilot Astronaut Candidate:
--- 162,174 ----
specific standards:
Distant visual acuity:
! 20/150 or better uncorrected,
correctable to 20/20, each eye.
Blood pressure:
140/90 measured in sitting position.
! 3. Height between 58.5 and 76 inches.
Pilot Astronaut Candidate:
|
5357 | From: ran@doc.ic.ac.uk (Robert A Nicholls)
Subject: VB to MSACCESS DDE communications
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Lines: 49
NNTP-Posting-Host: swan.doc.ic.ac.uk
A couple of weeks ago I posted a question concerning
communicating
between VB and MSACCESS using DDE. The answers I received at
that time
allowed me to get a prototype of my project working. However,
during
this process I have come up with new problems.
1) There seems to be a limit of 255 characters for a DDE Topic
string. Is
this inherent in all DDE systems or just peculiar to MSACCESS
or VB?
2) It is easy to query an Access database from VB using the
DDE SQL command,
(provided the above limitation is overcome by using short
field and table
names) but how is one meant to update a database?
a) A DDE SQL UPDATE command does not seem to work.
b) Initiating an Access macro using a DDE Execute command
from VB cannot
be used because when the macro requests information from
VB using a
second DDE channel the programs dead lock until time-
outs occur.
(The VB to Access channel has to close before the Access
to VB channel
is initiated, I guess.)
c) Access does not allow VB to DDE POKE the information.
The way I eventually managed to update a database was by
sending key-
strokes from VB to Access using the SendKeys command. This
technique has
the problem that Access cannot be minimised and it must
always be in a
state ready to respond to the sequence of key-strokes VB
sends.
Are all the above statements correct or have I made incorrect
assumptions?
Are there any better work arounds to the above? Are there any
signs of an
ODBC driver for Access?
Bob
ran@doc.ic.ac.uk
|
5358 | From: csundh30@ursa.calvin.edu (Charles Sundheim)
Subject: Looking for MOVIES w/ BIKES
Summary: Bike movies
Keywords: movies
Nntp-Posting-Host: ursa
Organization: Calvin College
Lines: 21
Folks,
I am assembling info for a Film Criticism class final project.
Essentially I need any/all movies that use motos in any substantial
capacity (IE; Fallen Angles, T2, H-D & the Marlboro Man,
Raising Arizona, etc).
Any help you fellow r.m'ers could give me would be much `preciated.
(BTW, a summary of bike(s) or plot is helpful but not necessary)
Thanx
-Erc.
_______________________________________________________________________________
C Eric Sundheim csundh30@ursa.Calvin.edu
GrandRapids, MI, USA
`90 Hondo VFR750f
DoD# 1138
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
5359 | From: C445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu (John Kelsey)
Subject: "Rubber-hose cryptanalysis"
Nntp-Posting-Host: mizzou1.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Lines: 7
Some sick part of me really liked that phrase....
Actually, merely the threat of a *long* prison sentence, even without
a beating, can get most people to give in. Especially if it's also
punctuated with a trip to the county jail, where one just happens to get
locked up with all the drunk/stoned/crazy folks that are too violent to be
left in cells with other people....
|
5360 | From: Gibson.Bill@applelink.apple.com (Bill Gibson)
Subject: SHARKS: Kingston Fired!!!
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Lines: 8
I just overheard that San Jose Coach George Kingston was officially
terminated today... Maybe good news, maybe bad. I kinda liked him, but he
seemed to lack a certain fire.
Bill Gibson : Gibson.Bill@applelink.apple.com
Chief Technical Sponge : AppleLink: GIBSON.BILL
Apple Computer, Inc. : Just say: SHARKS!!!
|
5361 | From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Flashing anyone?
Keywords: flashing
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Lines: 29
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>>Just before arriving at a toll booth I
>>switch the hazards on. I do thisto warn other motorists that I will
>>be taking longer than the 2 1/2 seconds to make the transaction.
>>My question, is this a good/bad thing to do?
> This sounds like a VERY good thing to do.
I'll second that. In addition, I find my hazards to be more
often used than my horn. At speeds below 40mph on the interstates,
quite common in mountains with trucks, some states require flashers.
In rural areas, flashers let the guy behind you know there is a tractor
with a rather large implement behind it in the way. Use them whenever
you need to communicate that things will deviate from the norm.
>--
>Chris BeHanna DoD# 114 1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
>behanna@syl.nj.nec.com 1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
>Disclaimer: Now why would NEC 1991 ZX-11 - needs a name
Is that ZX-11 painted green? Since the green Triumph 650 that
a friend owned was sold off, her name is now free for adoption. How
does the name "Thunderpickle" grab you?
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
< ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. >
< USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines. Meet exciting, >
< unusual people. And flame them. >
|
5362 | From: Sean_Oliver@mindlink.bc.ca (Sean Oliver)
Subject: Re: Need to find out number to a phone line
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Lines: 28
> Joseph Mich Krzeszewsk writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1quomg$f6m@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
> Posted: 19 Apr 1993 17:49:04 GMT
>
> Org. : Worcester Polytechnic Institute
>
> Well, this is my second try at posting on this subject. Here goes...
> In Texas (Corpus Christi at least) if you pick up the phone and
> dial
> 890 the phone company will read the number of the phone you are on
> back to you. I believe the service department uses this to make
> certain they are repairing the correct lines when they open the BIG
> junction boxes. I don't know if it will work but you can give it a
> try. Good luck.
>
>
Where I live, I use BCTEL. The number to dial is 211 for the same result.
--
+--------------------------------------------+
| Sean Oliver |
| Internet Address: a8647@MINDLINK.BC.CA |
| |
| Mindlink! BBS (604)576-1412 |
+--------------------------------------------+
|
5363 | From: bshaw@spdc.ti.com (Bob Shaw)
Subject: question on "xon" in X11R5
Article-I.D.: bobasun.bshaw.735532995
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Lines: 23
Nntp-Posting-Host: bobasun
Hi folks
Say, I'm new to R5 and have one quick question.
In using xon ( xon <machine_name> ) , I notice that it
always comes up with a very small window . I'm pretty
sure its the default font. My xterms all work normally.
Is xon supposed to read your .Xresources for a font size ?
xrdb -q appears to show the right stuff.
I can use xon with arguments such as xterm -fn 10x20 etc
and everything is correct. Of course you could always do a
simple script to do this , but I have a feeling I'm missing
something simple here.
Comments / suggestions appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Bob
bshaw@spdc.ti.com mm
|
5364 | From: jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler)
Subject: Re: SSPX schism ?
Organization: none
Lines: 182
Here is some material by Michael Davies on the subject of schism in
general and Archishop Lefebvre in particular. He wrote it around
1990. The first part of the two-part article was on the scandalous
activities of Archbishop Weakland (in this country), but I cut all
that. And I pared down the rest to what was relevant.
Joe Buehler
...
Schism and Disobedience
According to St. Thomas Aquinas, schism consists primarily in a
refusal of submission to the Pope or communion with the members of the
Church united to him. On first sight it would appear that, whatever
the subjective motivation of the Archbishop, as discussed above, he
must be in a state of objective schism as he has refused to submit to
the Pope on a very grave matter involving his supreme power of
jurisdiction. However, standard Catholic textbooks of theology make it
clear that while all schisms involve disobedience not all acts of
disobedience are schismatic. If this were so, as was noted at the
beginning of this article, it would mean that the number of American
bishops who are not schismatic would not reach double figures.
The distinction between disobedience and schism is made very clear in
the article on schism in the very authoritative Dictionnaire de
Theologie Catholique. The article is by Father Yves Congar who is
certainly no friend of Archbishop Lefebvre. He explains that schism
and disobedience are so similar that they are often confused. Father
Congar writes that schism involves a refusal to accept the existence
of legitimate authority in the Church, for example, Luther's rejection
of the papacy. Father Congar explains that the refusal to accept a
decision of legitimate authority in a particular instance does not
constitute schism but disobedience. The Catholic Encyclopedia
explains that for a Catholic to be truly schismatic he would have to
intend "to sever himself from the Church as far as in him lies." It
adds that "not every disobedience is schism; in order to possess this
character it must include besides the transgression of the command of
the superiors, a denial of their divine right to command."Not only
does Mgr. Lefebvre not deny the divine right of the Pope to command,
but he affirms repeatedly his recognition of the Pope's authority and
his intention of never breaking away from Rome. The Archbishop made
his attitude clear in the July/August 1989 issue of 30 Days: "We pray
for the Pope every day. Nothing has changed with the consecrations
last June 30. We are not sedevacantists. We recognize in John Paul II
the legitimate Pope of the Catholic Church. We don't even say that he
is a heretical Pope. We only say that his Modernist actions favor
heresy."
...
Intrinsically Schismatic?
The principal argument used by those claiming that Mgr. Lefebvre is in
schism is that the consecration of a bishop without a papal mandate is
an intrinsically schismatic act. A bishop who carries out such a
consecration, it is claimed, becomes ipso facto a schismatic. This is
not true. If such a consecration is an intrinsically schismatic act it
would always have involved the penalty of excommunication. In the 1917
Code of Canon Law the offence was punished only by suspension (see
Canon 2370 of the 1917 Code). Pope Pius XII had raised the penalty to
excommunication as a response to the establishment of a schismatic
church in China. The consecration of these illicit Chinese bishops
differed radically from the consecrations carried out by Mgr. Lefebvre
as the professed intention was to repudiate the authority of the Pope,
that is, to deny that he has the right to govern the Church, and the
illicitly consecrated Chinese bishops were given a mandate to exercise
an apostolic mission. Neither Archbishop Lefebvre nor any of the
bishops he has consecrated claim that they have powers of
jurisdiction. They have been consecrated solely for the purpose of
ensuring the survival of the Society by carrying out ordinations and
also to perform confirmations. I do not wish to minimize in any way
the gravity of the step take by Mgr. Lefebvre. The consecration of
bishops without a papal mandate is far more serious matter than the
ordination of priests as it involves a refusal in practice of the
primacy or jurisdiction belonging by divine right to the Roman
Pontiff. But the Archbishop could argue that the crisis afflicting the
Church could not be more grave, and that grave measures were needed in
response.
It appears to be taken for granted by most of the Archbishop's critics
that he was excommunicated for the offense of schism, and the Vatican
has certainly been guilty of fostering this impression. There is not
so much as a modicum of truth in this allegation. The New Code of
Canon Law includes a section beginning with Canon 1364 entitled
"Penalties for Specific Offenses" (De Poenis in Singula Dicta). The
first part deals with "Offenses against Religion and the Unity of the
Church" (De Delictis contra Religionem et Ecclesiae Unitatem). Canon
1364 deals with the offense of schism which is, evidently, together
with apostasy and heresy, one of the three fundamental offenses
against the unity of the Church.
But the Archbishop was not excommunicated under the terms of this
canon or, indeed, under any canon involving an offense against
religion or the unity of the church. The canon cited in his
excommunication comes from the third section of "Penalties for
Specific Offenses" which is entitled "Usurpation of Ecclesial
Functions and Offenses in their Exercise" (De Munerum Ecclesiasticorum
Usurpatione Degue Delictis iniis Exercendis). The canon in question is
Canon 1382, which reads: "A bishop who consecrates someone bishop and
the person who receives such a consecration from a bishop without a
pontifical mandate incur an automatic (latae sententiae)
excommunication reserved to the Holy See."
The scandalous attempts to smear Archbishop Lefebvre with the offense
of schism are, then, contrary to both truth and charity. A comparable
smear under civil as opposed to ecclesiastical law would certainly
justify legal action for libel involving massive damages. An accurate
parallel would be to state that a man convicted of manslaughter had
been convicted of first degree murder.
I must stress that what I have written here is not the dubious opinion
of laymen unversed in the intricacies of Canon Law. Canon lawyers
without the least shred of sympathy for Mgr. Lefebvre have repudiated
the charge of schism made against him as totally untenable. Father
Patrick Yaldrini, Dean of the Faculty of Canon Law of the Institut
Catholique in Paris noted in the 4 July 1988 issue of Valeurs
actuelles that, as I have just explained, Mgr. Lefebvre was not
excommunicated for schism but for the usurpation of an ecclesiastical
function. He added that it is not the consecration of a bishop which
constitutes schism but the conferral of an apostolic mission upon the
illicitly consecrated bishop. It is this usurpation of the powers of
the sovereign pontiff which proves the intention of establishing a
parallel Church.
Cardinal Rosalio Lara, President of the Pontifical Commission for the
Authentic Interpretation of Canon Law, commented on the consecrations
in the 10 July 1988 issue of la Repubblica. It would be hard to
imagine a more authoritative opinion. The Cardinal wrote:
The act of consecrating a bishop (without a papal mandate) is not
in itself a schismatic act. In fact, the Code that deals with
offenses is divided into two sections. One deals with offenses
against religion and the unity of the Church, and these are
apostasy, schism, and heresy. Consecrating a bishop with a
pontifical mandate is, on the contrary, an offense against the
exercise of a specific ministry. For example, in the case of the
consecrations carried out by the Vietnamese Archbishop Ngo Dinh
Thuc in 1976 and 1983, although the Archbishop was excommunicated
he was not considered to have committed a schismatic act because
there was no intention of a breach with the Church.
....
It is not simply unjust but ludicrous to suggest that in consecrating
bishops without a papal mandate Archbishop Lefebvre had the least
intent of establishing a schismatic church. He is not a schismatic and
will never be a schismatic. The Archbishop considers correctly that
the the Church is undergoing its worst crisis since the Arian heresy,
and that for the good of the Church it was necessary for him to
consecrate the four bishops to ensure the future of his Society. Canon
Law provides for just such a situation, and even if one believes that
the future of the Society could have been guaranteed without these
consecrations, the fact that the Archbishop believed sincerely that it
could not means, as Canon Law states clearly, that he has not incurred
excommunication. Furthermore, while the Vatican allows such prelates
as Archbishop Weakland to undermine the Faith with impunity it cannot
expect Catholics to pay the least attention to its sanctions against a
great and orthodox Archbishop whose entire life has been devoted to
the service of the Church and the salvation of souls.
Dr. Eric M. de Saventhem, President of the International Una Voce
Association, is one of the best informed laymen in the Church, and he
knows the Archbishop intimately. Dr. de Saventhem, like myself, has no
greater desire than to see a reconciliation between Mgr. Lefebvre and
the Holy See during the Archbishop's lifetime. A quotation from a
statement by Dr. de Saventhem which was published in the 15 February
1989 Remnant merits careful study:
In retrospect, the road leading to the consecrations of 30 June
appears more paved with grave Roman (and, unfortunately, also
papal) omissions than with Lefebvrist "obstinancies." And from the
eyes of an informed public this cannot be hidden by attempting to
present the Archbishop's act of grave disobedience as an offense
against the Faith! It is said--today--that Mgr. Lefebvre has "an
erroneous concept of Tradition." If this were so, Cardinal
Ratzinger could not, on behalf of the Pope, have addressed to the
Archbishop the following words in his letter of 28 July 1987:
"Your ardent desire to safeguard Tradition by procuring for it
'the means to live and prosper' testifies to your attachment to
the Faith of all time... the Holy Father understands your concern
and shares it."
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5365 | From: ritterbus001@wcsub.ctstateu.edu
Subject: Re: Picking up cable tv with an aerial.
Lines: 37
Nntp-Posting-Host: wcsub.ctstateu.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
In article <gyJX2B2w165w@inqmind.bison.mb.ca>, dino@inqmind.bison.mb.ca (Tony stewart) writes:
> jfsenior@unix1.tcd.ie (John Senior) writes:
>
>> Recently, I discovered that it was possible to receive cable
>> tv through the telescopic aerial on the top of my tv.
>> The nearer this aerial is moved to the cable (which I am not
>> connected to) which runs under the eaves of the house the better
>> the signal. Now, I was wondering how can I improve the signal?
>> Is it possible to improve the signal significantly? (some channels
>
> CABLE EGRESS or emanations if you will are being radiated at free space
> impedance from cables that may be harmonically realated to certain
> channels and therfore the standing waves at 1/4 wave will transfer
> efficiently. Also your antenna (a loose monopole) is also harmonically
> tuned and will be more efficient at 1/2 wavelength multiples.
>
> Your best bet for this research is to use a tuned YAGI antenna to get the
> gain you need. (Std TV roof antenna type) The dipoles should be parallel
> to the radiating cable. A pre-amp doesn't help significantly in my
> experience in most cases.
>
> dino@inqmind.bison.mb.ca
> The Inquiring Mind BBS, Winnipeg, Manitoba 204 488-1607
Wow, what a concept! Does anybody want to speculate on how this
"non-connection" would fit into the theft of cable services laws?
It seems to me that unless this case is specifically written into
the legislation that the cable company would not have a leg to
stand upon in court.
Does anybody out there have any specific legal knowledge on this?
Jim Ritterbusch
ritterbus001@wcsu.ctstateu.edu - or - ne22@radiomail.net (temp, rf)
There is an art, the Guide says, or rather a knack to flying. The
knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
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5366 | From: vzhivov@superior.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov)
Subject: Re: Individual Winners (WAS: Re: WHERE ARE THE DOUBTERS NOW? HMM?)
Organization: Carleton University
Lines: 52
In <1993Apr15.170226.11074@cci632.cci.com> dwk@cci632.cci.com (Dave Kehrer) writes:
>Well, since you mentioned it...
>In article <1993Apr12.142028.6300@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
>
>> Chelios the Norris,
>If you asked me 30 days ago, I'd agree with you. I now give the nod to
>Raymond Bourque; his play took off the same time the B's did. Chelios
>gets a close second...
How about Kevin Hatcher? Scored roughly 35 goals, plays 30 minutes a game.
>> dunno who wins the Vezina, but I suspect not Potvin.
>
>Barrasso finally gets his due, in a close one over Eddie the Eagle...
That's really sad when two second-rate goalies (Barasso and Belfour)
are the main contenders for the Vezina. Call me crazy, but how about
Tommy Soderstrom - five shutouts for a 6th place team that doesn't
really play defense. It's really unfortunate that the better goalies
in the league (McLean, Essensa, Vernon) had unspectacular years. BTW,
if you are going to award the Norris on the basis of the last 30 days,
why not give the Vezina to Moog? He has been the best goalie over the
past month.
>> Coach of the year is tricky: Burns did the most with the least raw talent,
>> King did a good job but the Flames clearly underachieved last year, Brian
>> Sutter has done exceptionally well in his first year with a new team, ditto
>> Demers, Page has been blessed by the ripening and acquisition of young
>> talent, Darryl Sutter is having a good year for a rookie coach, Berry made
>> the best of a bad situation, Terry Crisp worked minor miracles, and Bowman
>> was Bowman. I'd pick Burns, but I'm mildly biased.
>In *your* case, that bias is acceptable :-)... Mine shows with the Norris pick,
>so we're even...
>I'm impressed with what all the coaches you mentioned did, but my pick would be
>Al Arbour. Not too many folks thought the Isles would be in the playoffs, let
>alone contend for 3rd in their division... Granted that they *did* have a little
>help from their cousins on Broadway... :-)
>And I like the Islanders about as much as I like mowing my lawn...
Arbour or King. Burns will probably win, since playoffs aren't taken
into consideration - he's OK in the regular season, but I'm not sure
if he's beaten anyone other than Hartford in the playoffs.
- Vlad the Impaler
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5367 | From: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice)
Subject: Re: Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW]
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Lines: 131
In <2942956021.3.p00261@psilink.com> "Robert Knowles" <p00261@psilink.com> writes:
>>DATE: Sat, 3 Apr 1993 10:00:39 GMT
>>FROM: Fred Rice <darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
>>
>>In <1p8ivt$cfj@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>>
>>>Should we British go around blowing up skyscrapers next?
>>
>>I don't know if you are doing so, but it seems you are implying
>>(1) that the person accused of blowing up the WTC in NY actually did it,
>>and
>>(2) that Islamic teachings have something to do with blowing up the WTC.
>>
>>[WTC = World Trade Centre, which was the building that was blown up, I
>>think.]
>>
>>Okay... to make some comments...
>>
>>(1) The person has only been accused -- innocent until proven guilty,
>>remember? Secondly, there seem to be some holes in his accusation that
>>I read about. For instance, if they guy used that particular van to
>>blow up the building, and then to go back and claim his deposit back
>>afterwards, he must be incredibly stupid.
>Perhaps Salamen was one of those "uneducated" Muslims we hear so much about.
>>Nevertheless, he was
>>apparently smart enough to put together a very sophisticated bomb. It
>>doesn't seem to fit together, somehow.
>Actually, Salameh was not the ONLY person involved. The other fellow was
>a chemical engineer working for Allied Signal who had specifically studied
>explosive devices in school (believe it or not - we actually allow radical
>Muslim types to study things like this in our universities - so much for
>the price of freedom)
From what I read, the other fellow told Salameh how to put it together
over the phone. The bomb was supposedly some sort of sophisticated
type, so to put a (I assume complicated) sophisticated bomb together
from instructions _over the phone_ (!) one must need some brains I would
expect.
>>Despite this, there have
>>already been many attacks and threats against mosques and Muslims in the
>>United States as a consequence of his accusation, I have read.
>>
>O.K., now please tell us where this is happening. I live in the U.S. and
>I have heard very little about these mosque attacks. There are many mosques
>in Houston, Texas and I would like to know what is going on so I can verify
>this. Or is the Great Jewish Media Conspiracy keeping us from knowing about
>this in the U.S. We heard about the mosque attacks during the Desert Storm
>venture, so why is it so quiet now? Maybe it is localized to New Jersey?
I read this in an article in "The Australian Muslim Times", the
newspaper (weekly) of the Australian Muslim community.
If this is true, perhaps one of the Muslims based in North America (if
they see this posting) can elaborate.
>>(2) Islamic teachings teach against harming the innocent. In the Qur'an
>>it explicitly teaches against harming innocents even in times of war.
>>The blowing up of the WTC and harming innocents is therefore in blatant
>>contradiction to Islamic teachings.
>This means absolutely nothing. Plenty of people commit violence while
>following what they think are valid religious principles. I have seen
>people post many things here from the Koran which could be "misinterpreted"
>(if that is the explanation you wish to use) by an "uneducated" Muslim to
>allow them to harm idolators and unbelievers. The first thing every Muslim
>says is that no Muslim could have done that because Islam teaches against
>harming innocents. And we are supposed to take you WORD that it NEVER
>happens. What do you think is the consequence? Does Allah strike them
>down before the "alleged" violence occurs? Of course not. Muslims commit
>the violent act and then everyone hides behind verses in the Koran. We're
>pretty hip to that trick. And I even doubt that it will come up in the
>trials.
>"My defense is that I am Muslim and Islam teaches me not to harm the innocent.
>Therefore, the people who were killed must not have been innocent. Sure we
>set off the bomb, your honor, but you must remember, sir, I am a Muslim.
>Allah is all-powerful. Allah would not have allowed this. Are you insulting
>my religion?"
>Great defense, eh?
>Just admit that there are some incredibly stupid, violent Muslims in the
>world and stop hiding from that fact. It does no one any good to deny it.
>It only makes the more reasonable Muslims look like they are protecting the
>bad ones. Can you see that?
I don't deny this fact.
The thrust of my argument here is that
(a) Salameh is, according to US law, innocent as he has not been found
guilty in a court of law. As his guilt has not been established, it is
wrong for people to make postings based on this assumption.
(b) Islam teaches us _not_ to harm innocents. If Muslims -- who perhaps
have not realized that Islam teaches this -- perform such actions, it is
_not_ _because_ of the teachings of Islam, but rather _in spite of_ and
_in contradiction to_ the teachings of Islam. This is an important
distinction.
I should clarify what Muslims usually mean when they say "Muslim". In
general, anyone who calls themselves a "Muslim" and does not do or
outwardly profess
something in clear contradiction with the essential teachings of Islam
is considered to be a Muslim. Thus, one who might do things contrary to
Islam (through ignorance, for example) does not suddenly _not_ become a
Muslim. If one knowingly transgresses Islamic teachings and essential
principles, though, then one does leave Islam.
The term "Muslim" is to be contrasted with "Mu'min", which means "true
believer". However, whether a Muslim is in reality a Mu'min is
something known only by God (and perhaps that person himself). So you
will not find the term Mu'min used very much by Muslims in alt.atheism,
because it is not known to anybody (except myself and God), whether I,
for example, am a "true believer" or not. For example, I could just be
putting on a show here, and in reality believe something opposite to
what I write here, without anyone knowing. Thus, when we say "Muslims"
we mean all those who outwardly profess to follow Islam, whether in
practice they might, in ignorance, transgress Islamic teachings. By
"Muslim" we do not necessarily mean "Mu'min", or "true believer" in
Islam.
Fred Rice
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
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5368 | From: markmc@halcyon.com (Mark McWiggins)
Subject: Re: Barbecued foods and health risk
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
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NNTP-Posting-Host: nwfocus.wa.com
Also, don't forget that it's better for your health to enjoy your steak
than to resent your sprouts ...
--
Mark McWiggins Hermes & Associates +1 206 632 1905 (voice)
markmc@halcyon.com Box 31356, Seattle WA 98103-1356 +1 206 632 1738 (fax)
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5369 | From: alan@saturn.cs.swin.OZ.AU (Alan Christiansen)
Subject: Re: Sphere from 4 points?
Organization: Swinburne University of Technology
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NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.cs.swin.oz.au
spworley@netcom.com (Steve Worley) writes:
>bolson@carson.u.washington.edu (Edward Bolson) writes:
>>Boy, this will be embarassing if it is trivial or an FAQ:
>>Given 4 points (non coplanar), how does one find the sphere, that is,
>>center and radius, exactly fitting those points? I know how to do it
>>for a circle (from 3 points), but do not immediately see a
>>straightforward way to do it in 3-D. I have checked some
>>geometry books, Graphics Gems, and Farin, but am still at a loss?
>>Please have mercy on me and provide the solution?
>It's not a bad question: I don't have any refs that list this algorithm
>either. But thinking about it a bit, it shouldn't be too hard.
>1) Take three of the points and find the plane they define as well as
>the circle that they lie on (you say you have this algorithm already)
>2) Find the center of this circle. The line passing through this center
>perpendicular to the plane of the three points passes through the center of
>the sphere.
>3) Repeat with the unused point and two of the original points. This
>gives you two different lines that both pass through the sphere's
>origin. Their interection is the center of the sphere.
>4) the radius is easy to compute, it's just the distance from the center to
>any of the original points.
>I'll leave the math to you, but this is a workable algorithm. :-)
Good I had a bad feeling about this problem because of a special case
with no solution that worried me.
Four coplanar points in the shape of a square have no unique sphere
that they are on the surface of.
Similarly 4 colinear point have no finite sized sphere that they are on the
surface of.
These algorithms being geometrical designed rather than algebraically design
meet these problems neatly.
When determining which plane the 3 points are on if they are colinear
the algorithm should afil or return infinite R.
When intersecting the two lines there are 2 possibilities
they are the same line (the 4 points were on a planar circle)
they are different lines but parallel. There is a sphere of in radius.
This last case can be achieved with 3 colinier points and any 4th point
by taking the 4th point and pairs of the first 3 parallel lines will be produced
it can also be achieved by
If all 4 points are coplanar but are not on one circle.
It seems to me that the algorithm only fails when the 4 points are coplanar.
The algorithm always fails when the points are coplanar.
(4 points being colinear => coplanar)
Testing if the 4th point is coplanar when the plane of the first 3 points
has been found is trivial.
>An alternate method would be to take pairs of points: the plane formed
>by the perpendicular bisector of each line segment pair also contains the
>center of the sphere. Three pairs will form three planes, intersecting
>at a point. This might be easier to implement.
>-Steve
>spworley@netcom.com
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5370 | From: L.Newnham@bradford.ac.uk (Leonard Newnham)
Subject: Re: Islam And Scientific Predictions (was
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Umar Khan (khan@itd.itd.nrl.navy.mil) wrote:
>I strongly suggest that you look up a book called THE BIBLE, THE QURAN, AND
>SCIENCE by Maurice Baucaille, a French surgeon. It is not comprehensive,
> He was unable
>to find a wealth of scientific statements in the Holy Qur'an, but,
>what he did find made sense with modern understanding. So, he
>investigated the Traditions (the hadith) to see what they had to
>say about science. they were filled with science problems; after
>all, they were contemporary narratives from a time which had, by
>pour standards, a primitive world view. His conclusion was that,
>while he was impressed that what little the Holy Qur'an had to
>say about science was accurate, he was far more impressed that the
>Holy Qur'an did not contain the same rampant errors evidenced in
>the Traditions. How would a man of 7th Century Arabia have known
>what *not to include* in the Holy Qur'an (assuming he had authored
>it)?
This book is worth a read to get a sensible view of this issue.
The book is in two sections. Section 1 contains a fairly reasonable
analysis of the Bible, showing many inconsistencies between the Bible
and modern science. Well we all know that, no surprises.
Section 2 analyses the Koran's version of the Old Testament stories,
and seems, on the face of it, to present a good case showing the Koran
is consistent with modern science. However, it was plain to me, that
this consistency was only possible by the vague phraseology of the
Koran. Take the flood, for example, the bible is full of detail,
("forty days and forty nights", "pair of every animal", etc.), we all
know this is nonsense. The Koran's description of the same event is
so obscure as to make possible an interpretation such as "A big river
flooded for a few days and caused much damage". Yes, no contradiction
but also not much fact.
The Koran might be consistent with modern science, but being
consistent due to its vagueness compared with other books of that
time, does not seem much of an achievement.
The book concludes by saying something like, the Koran must have had
divine inspiration because at the time it was written there were a lot
of (to us now) ridiculous ideas about the universe, and none of them
can be found in the Koran! Arguing for the greatness of a book by
talking about what it does not contain seems absurd in the extreme.
The above is, of course, from memory so I may have missed some points.
--
Leonard e-mail: L.Newnham@bradford.ac.uk
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5371 | From: dduff@col.hp.com (Dave Duff)
Subject: Re: Taurus/Sable rotor recall
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
Lines: 4
NNTP-Posting-Host: fajita19.cs.itc.hp.com
We get about 20 Taurus/Sables for fleet cars at our site every year, then the
company sells them a year later to employees. The folks I know who drive/buy
them have no complaints. The cars seem to drive real nice too.
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5372 | From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Matthew MacIntyre at the National University of Senegal)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Lines: 9
callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) writes:
: >>
: >I'm not going to argue the issue of carrying weapons, but I would ask you if
: >you would have thought seriously about shooting a kid for setting off your
: >alarm? I can think of worse things in the world. Glad you got out of there
: >before they did anything to give you a reason to fire your gun.
:
I think people have a right to kill to defend their property. Why not? Be
honest: do you really care more about scum than about your car?
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5373 | From: wayne@amtower.spacecoast.org (Wayne Summer)
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wayne@amtower.spacecoast.orgX-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Organization: Wayne's Machine; Palm Bay, Florida
Lines: 33
In article <1993Apr15.235509.29818@julian.uwo.ca> wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
>
> I won't argue that the SCSI standard makes for a good, well implimented
> data highway, but I still want to know why it intrinsically better
> (than IDE, on an ISA bus) when it comes to multi-tasking OS's when
> managing data from a single SCSI hard drive.
I have been following this thread and figured I'd throw in my two cents...
The Amiga Zorro II bus is comparable with the ISA bus (7.16 vs 8.33 MHZ).
The Amiga has had a pre-emptative multi-tasking OS since '85 and can
operate with 1 MB RAM! SCSI is used almost exclusively on these systems.
A SCSI controller that transfers data by DMA allows the cpu to request data
from the hard drive and continue working while the controller gets the data
and moves it to memory. A controller that allows reselection can operate
even better with multiple devices. This is espically true with SCSI tape
units. For example, when rewinding or formatting a tape, the command is
issued to the controller and the bus is released to allow access to other
devices on the bus. This greatly increases productivity or, at least, do
something else while backing up your hard drive :-). Which happens to be
what I am doing while reading this group.
Its a long story, but I still use IDE on my 486 except for the CDROM which,
thanks to SCSI, I can move between both machines. If, and when, SCSI is
better standardized and supported on the ibm-clone machines, I plan to
completely get rid of IDE.
--
Wayne Summer // AMIGA - Simply the Best.
Palm Bay, FL. US \X/ wayne@amtower.spacecoast.org
Quote of the week: Don't hate microsoft because because they are microsoft,
though...hate them because their products are lame - Found in c.s.ibm.pc.misc
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5374 | From: mlobbia@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Kaneda)
Subject: SUMMARY: ZyXEL Strings
Keywords: ZTerm, FirstClass, Telefinder strings
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Nntp-Posting-Host: sdcc13.ucsd.edu
I write:
>I recently got a ZyXEL U-1496E modem. It's great, but I'm still having
>some problems figuring out what strings to use in what applications.
>I basically need strings for Z-term, FirstClass client, and Telefinder
>client. I've been able to get FirstClass and Z-term working by using
>another modem's settings in FirstClass and copying them for Z-term.
>However, it still has problems - Z-term, for example, will list 'ERROR'
>the first time I try dialing after starting the problem. If I cancel and
>try again, it works fine. Telefinder is even worse - I can't get it to
>even wake up the modem. So, if anyone uses a ZyXEL for any of these
>programs, I'd greatly appreciate you sending me the setup strings you use
>Thanks in advance!
yoshio@CS.UCLA.EDU writes:
>For zterm, I initially did the following:
>atz4
>at&d0
>at&w0
>Then I set my init string to atz0.
>That's it!
RSMITH@PEARL.TUFTS.EDU (Rod Smith) writes:
>I can't help you with FirstClass or Telefinder, but I've been using ZTerm
and a
>ZyXEL for close to two weeks now. Here's what I did:
>
>Once in ZTerm, set hardware handshaking on and the bps rate to 57,600.
(You've
>probably already done this.) Then I typed:
>
>at&d0
>at&w
>
>The first line sets the modem to ignore the DTR line (necessary for
hardware
>handshaking with most, though not all, Mac hardware handshaking cables).
The
>second stores this setting in non-volatile memory in the modem, so it's the
>default when the modem starts. In the modem preferences dialog, I have the
>modem initialization string set to "at&z0^M", which just insures that the
>stored setting is used (useful if starting ZTerm after using something like
the
>fax software or MacWoof, which change the settings in other ways).
>Alternatively, you could leave the factory default the way it is and just
set
>the ZTerm initialization string to "at&d0^M", which would accomplish the
same
>thing IF the modem is always on before you start ZTerm, and IF other
programs
>don't modify the settings. Or "at&z0&d0^M" would work even if other
programs
>modify the modem's settings. I do it the way I do because I sometimes
forget
>to turn on the modem before launching ZTerm, and this way I'm assured of
having
>the correct DTR handling when the modem's powered up.
After comparing the above strings with my AT commands reference guide, I
came up with:
ATZ0L2N2X5&D0S11=50^M
This is entered in the 'Initialize' box on the 'Modem Preferences' in Zterm.
Quick summary of each commmand:
Z0 - Reset modem to User Profile 0.
L2 - Speaker volume at 2 (fairly quiet)
N2 - Ring volume at 2 (fairly quiet)
X5 - Display connect info according to setting 5 (see manual)
&D0 - Assume DTR (computer) is always on
S11=50 - Dial speed at 50 (as fast as ZyXEL can handle)
In FirstClass, I used this same string, with the addition of S0=0 right
before the S11 command, in the setup box. This disables the auto-answer
function of the modem for FirstClass. I based my modem setting on the Supra
14.4FAX, and just changed the above mentioned string.
In Telefinder, I based my setting on the Zoom V42 - HH setting. I changed
the 'Modem Initialization' string to the same one I used for FirstClass, and
everything seems to work fine.
Sorry it took so long to get this summary out. If someone wants to forward
this to the /info-mac/reports directory at sumex-aim, it might save other
newbie ZyXEL users like myself the trouble of setting up their strings, and
also save the net some redundant messages. If anyone else has something
to add, feel free.
Marcus
mlobbia@ucsd.edu
--
/// Marcus Lobbia ///
\\\ mlobbia@sdcc13.ucsd.edu \\\
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5375 | From: 93gke@williams.edu (Greg 'Going Blank Again' Ennis)
Subject: Soundblaster v2.0 drivers for Win 3.1??
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: hancock.cc.williams.edu
Hi all,
could someone please tell me if there are drivers for windows 3.1 for
the new soundblaster 2.0. Or will the 1.5 drivers be sufficient?
I would be appreciate any info.
Thanks,
Greg Ennis
93gke@cs.williams.edu
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5376 | From: dbm0000@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Mckissock)
Subject: NASA "Wraps"
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Nntp-Posting-Host: tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
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In the April edition of "One Small Step for a Space Activist",
Allen Sherzer & Tim Kyger write:
"Another problem is what are called 'wraps' (or sometimes
the 'center tax'). When work for a large program like
Freedom or Shuttle is performed at a NASA center, the
center skims off a portion which goes into what amounts
to a slush fund. This money is used to fund work the
center manager wants to fund. This sum is estimated to
be over a third of the funds allocated. Think about
that: Of the $30 billion cost of Freedom, fully $10
billion won't be spent on anything having anything
to do with Space Stations! Now, maybe that $10 billion
was wisely spent (and maybe it wasn't), but the work done
with it should stand on its own merits, not distorting
the cost of other projects. Congress has no idea of the
existense of these wraps; Congress has never heard the
term 'center tax'. They look at the Station they are
getting and the price they are paying and note that
it doesn't add up. They wonder this blissfully unaware
that a third of the money is going for something else."
My dear friends, your mixing fact and fiction here. A couple
of weeks ago, when I first read this in your posting, I
talked with one of the cost experts here in Space Station
at Headquarters [if you wondering why I didn't post a
response immediately, I do have a real job I'm supposed
to be doing here at Headquarters, & digging up old 20 kHz
data & looking into Sherzer/Kyger claims rates pretty low
on the totem pole of priority. Also, I spent last weekend
in Kansas City, at the National Science Teachers
Association conference, extolling the virtues of SSF
to 15,000 science teachers.]
First off, yes, the concept of 'center tax', or 'wrap' does
exist. If I recall the numbers correctly, the total 'tax'
for the SSF program for this fiscal year is around $40 Million.
This was computed by adding up the WP-1, WP-2, and WP-4
center 'taxes'. With the SSF budget for this fiscal year at
$2.2 Billion, my calculater says the tax percentage is
04/2.2 = 1.8%
Over the life of the SSF program, using your figure of $30
billion for the cost of SSF, a tax at a 1.8% rate comes to
$540 million. This is alot less than $10 billion, but I
will concede it's still an appreciable amount of pocket
change.
I should note that your estimate of the tax rate at 1/3 could
be close to the actual rate. The tax is only charged on funds
that are spent at the center (kind of like McDonalds at some
states, where you do have to pay sales tax if you eat
the food at the restaurant, but you don't if you get it
take-out). For example, at WP-4, the vast bulk of the funds
we receive go to the Rocketdyne Contract, and are *NOT*
subject to the center tax (I don't have the numbers in
front of me, but I'd guess at least 95% of the WP-4 funds
go to Rocketdyne). So, you could be right about a tax
rate of 1/3, but it's only applied to funds spent at the
center, and not to the prime contracts.
This leads to the obvious question "What is the government
doing with SSF funds that don't go to the prime contractors?
(i.e. ok, WP-4 gets a slice of the $30 billion pie. A
big portion of this slice goes to Rocketdyne. What happens
to the balance of the funds, which aren't eaten
up by the center tax?)"
At WP-4, we call these funds we spend in-house supporting
development funds (as they are supporting the development
work done by Rocketdyne). We have used these funds to
setup our own testbed, to checkout the electrical
power system architecture. Our testbed has a real life
solar array field (left over from solar cell research
research a few years back), with lead-acid car batteries
(to simulate the Nickel-Hydrogen batteries on SSF), DC
switchgear, DC-DC converter units, and simulated
loads. Data from the testbed was used in a recent
change evaluation involving concerns about the stability
of the power system.
We have also used the supporting development money to
purchase Nickel Hydrogen batteries, which are on life
testing at both Lewis and the Crane Naval facility in
Indiana. As a side point, 6 of the battery cells on
test recently hit the four year life test milestone.
38 cells have completed 18,552 to 23,405 cycles (the
on-orbit batteries go through 5,840 cycles per year).
As a final example, my 'home' division at Lewis used
the supporting development funds to purchase personal
computers and work stations, for performing system
analyses (like modeling of the performance of the
electrical power system, availability calculations
using a Monte-Carlo simulation, setting up a
database with information on weight of the power
system elements).
Finally, the money raised by the 'tax' does not all
go into a 'slush fund.' At Lewis, the director
does control a small discretionary fund. Each year,
any individual at Lewis can submit a proposal to
the director to get money from this fund to look
at pretty much anything within the Lewis Charter.
Most of the tax, however, goes to fund the 'general'
services at the Center, like the library, the
central computer services division, the Contractor
who removes the snow, etc. Thus, it is rather
difficult to determine what percentage of the
SSF budget doesn't go for SSF activities. To get
an accurate figure, you would have to take
the annual expenditure for the library (for example),
and then divide by the amount of the library funds
used to support SSF (which would be hard to
compute by itself - how would you figure out
what percentage of the bill for Aviation Week for
1 year is 'billable' to SSF, would you base it on
the person-hours SSF employees spend reading AV-week
versus the rest of the center personnel). You would
then have to compare this estimate of the SSF
portion of the library expense with the portion of
the tax that goes to support the library. Who knows,
maybe SSF overpays on the tax to run the library, but
we underpay for snow removal? Talk about
a burecratic nightmare!
My last point is that I can't believe your claim that
Congress has never heard of the term 'center tax.'
Unfortunately, all of the NASA testimony before
Congress isn't on a computer, so I can't do a simple
word search someplace to prove you wrong. But surely,
in some GAO audit somewhere, these NASA cost methods
were documented for Congress?
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5377 | From: fields@cis.ohio-state.edu (jonathan david fields)
Subject: Misc./Buying Info. Needed
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Lines: 24
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: frigate.cis.ohio-state.edu
Hi. I have been thinking about buying a Motorcycle or a while now and I have
some questions:
-Is there a buying guide for new/used motorcycles (that lists reliability, how
to go about the buying process, what to look for, etc...)?
-Is there a pricing guide for new/used motorcycles (Blue Book)?
Also
-Are there any books/articles on riding cross country, motorcycle camping, etc?
-Is there an idiots' guide to motorcycles?
ANY related information is helpful. Please respond directly to me.
Thanks a lot.
-Jordan
Me also.
Thanks,
Jonathan D. Fields
fields@cis.ohio-state.edu
|
5378 | From: gchin@ssf.Eng.Sun.COM (Gary Chin)
Subject: Christians that are not church members
Reply-To: gchin@ssf.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Lines: 13
Over the years, I have met Christians who are not associated with
any local church and are not members of any local church. This is
an issue that may be very personal, but is important. What does
the Bible say about this and how can we encourage our friends with
regard to this issue?
|-------------------|
| Gary Chin |
| Staff Engineer |
| Sun Microsystems |
| Mt. View, CA |
| gchin@Eng.Sun.Com |
|-------------------|
|
5379 | From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Subject: XTERM patches for Alpha OSF 1.2?
Article-I.D.: coe.1993Apr22.233646.20017
Organization: CS
Lines: 24
Well, after massaging the Dec.cf, osf.def, (can't remember the exact names)
from OSF into my normal X11R5 distribution, everything compiles and links
fine, but xterm doesn't run.
Warning: Representation size 8 must match superclass's to override background
Warning: translation table syntax error: Modifier or '<' expected
Warning: ... found while parsing 'p^#j?;'P)=#'
X Error of failed request: BadColor (invalid Colormap parameter)
Major opcode of failed request: 85 (X_AllocNamedColor)
Resource id in failed request: 0x0
Serial number of failed request: 18
Current serial number in output stream: 18
Other than this, all the other core X stuff seems to be working OK. Any
hints/tips appreciated, patches would be primo.
Thanks.
--
Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager (406) 994-4780
410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717 osyjm@cs.montana.edu
|
5380 | From: smith@phoneme.harvard.edu (Steven Smith)
Subject: The Manitoban Candidate
In-Reply-To: bross@sandbanks.cosc.brocku.ca's message of 10 Apr 93 23:10:23 GMT
Organization: Harvard Robotics Lab, Harvard University
<1993Apr10.231023.19680@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>
Lines: 18
bross@sandbanks.cosc.brocku.ca (Brian Ross) writes:
> In the world of the future, Bill Clinton will appoint Canadians to
> govern all American institutions (starting with the American health
> care system). We will be benevolent Canadian dictators.
With yet another tax being floated by the Clinton administration to
pay for new ``free'' social programs, I've really begun to suspect
that the Canadians, long resentful of their place in the American
shadow, brainwashed an American draft dodger who fled to Canada some
time between 1966 and 1968, tutored him in the ways of Canadian
socialism, awarded him with smokeless marijuana cigarettes when he got
the correct answers, then returned him to the states (under the
control of the domineering wife assigned to his case) to attain high
public office and destroy the evil individualistic and free market
forces in America, thus shaping America in the Canadian image.
Steven Smith
|
5381 | From: bmdelane@quads.uchicago.edu (brian manning delaney)
Subject: Re: diet for Crohn's (IBD)
Reply-To: bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 27
One thing that I haven't seen in this thread is a discussion of the
relation between IBD inflammation and the profile of ingested fatty
acids (FAs).
I was diagnosed last May w/Crohn's of the terminal ileum. When I got
out of the hospital I read up on it a bit, and came across several
studies investigating the role of EPA (an essentially FA) in reducing
inflammation. The evidence was mixed. [Many of these studies are
discussed in "Inflammatory Bowel Disease," MacDermott, Stenson. 1992.]
But if I recall correctly, there were some methodological bones to be
picked with the studies (both the ones w/pos. and w/neg. results). In
the studies patients were given EPA (a few grams/day for most of the
studies), but, if I recall correctly, there was no restriction of the
_other_ FAs that the patients could consume. From the informed
layperson's perspective, this seems mistaken. If lots of n-6 FAs are
consumed along with the EPA, then the ratio of "bad" prostanoid
products to "good" prostanoid products could still be fairly "bad."
Isn't this ratio the issue?
What's the view of the gastro. community on EPA these days? EPA
supplements, along with a fairly severe restriction of other FAs
appear to have helped me significantly (though it could just be the
low absolute amount of fat I eat -- 8-10% calories).
-Brian <bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu>
|
5382 | From: k053730@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Philip G. Sells)
Subject: Hebrew grammar texts--choose English or German?
Organization: Kalamazoo College Alumni Association
Lines: 28
Greetings,
Probably a tired old horse, but... maybe with a slightly different
twist. I wanted to know if there are any good English-language texts
for learning ancient Hebrew, and how these compare with German
educational texts qualitywise, if anybody has an idea. I can't figure
out if I should buy one here for later study or wait until I get back to
the U.S.
Something I find interesting about studying theology in Germany is the
fact that the students get their ancient language-learning out of the
way early [I'm not a theology student, but I spend a lot of time with
such folks] in their careers. They take the first two years or so to just
do Greek and Latin and Hebrew [possibly Aramaic, too--who knows].
What's it like at divinity schools or seminaries in the States? Is
there a lot of language instruction done? I really don't have a basis
for comparison.
Regards, Phil
--
Philip Sells Is anything too hard for the LORD?
k053730@hobbes.kzoo.edu --Gen. 18:14
[For better of worse, we don't have the tradition of classical
education in the U.S., so generally if a seminary believes students
should know Greek, they have to teach it. It's common for seminaries
to require at least a semester each of Hebrew and Greek, though of
course more is required for serious scholarship. --clh]
|
5383 | From: mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Keith Mancus)
Subject: Can't get 1280x1024 to work w/2M ATI Ultra Pro
Organization: MDSSC
Lines: 18
I am unable to get my Gateway 486DX2/66 to run Windows
in 1280x1024. I ordered a 2M ATI Ultra Pro, and I'm pretty
sure the 2M is really there because I *can* select
1024x768x65536. But no matter what I do with the Flex program
in the ATI's program group, 1280x1024 remains ghosted out.
I have Windows 3.1, build 59 of the drivers, DOS 5.0. The
drivers were installed by Gateway, not by me, so perhaps there's
a file missing from the hard drive. It runs 1024x768 just fine.
I did go into the Desktop window and select 1280x1024. Sometimes
it refuses (ghosted out), other time it accepts it, but when I hit
OK and re-enter Desktop, it's back to 1024x768. At no time does
it unghost 1280x1024 in the main Flex window. Help!
--
| Keith Mancus <mancus@butch.jsc.nasa.gov> |
| N5WVR <mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov> |
| "Black powder and alcohol, when your states and cities fall, |
| when your back's against the wall...." -Leslie Fish |
|
5384 | From: zeno@phylo.genetics.washington.edu (Sean Lamont)
Subject: Closed-curve intersection
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ra2paINN68s
Organization: Abstract Software
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: phylo.genetics.washington.edu
I would like a reference to an algorithm that can detect whether
one closed curve bounded by some number of bezier curves lies completely
within another closed curve bounded by bezier curves.
Thanks.
--
Sean T. Lamont | Ask me about the WSI-Fonts
zeno@genetics.washington.edu | Professional collection for NeXT
lamont@abstractsoft.com |____________________________________
Abstract Software
|
5385 | From: jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young)
Subject: FFL&gunsmithing questions
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Lines: 8
I have a few questions I'd like to ask;
First,How would someone(me)be able to get a dealers license
and second,besides dear old departed gramp's,where would I
find a good place to learn gunsmithing.
all replies appreciated!
John
|
5386 | From: bena@dec05.cs.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling)
Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 12
Andrew Richard Conway (arc@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: P.S. I can't work out why the US government doesn't want to sell
: them overseas. After all, they are rather easy for US interests to decode,
: so make a perfect tool for industrial/military espionage...lulling
: anyone stupid enough to buy it into a false sense of security. You will
: notice that there is NO mention anywhere about safety for non-Americans.
Don't forget, you are in the country that wouldn't let the Russians
buy Apple II's because of security concerns.
--
Ben (-: bena@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au :-)
|
5387 | From: mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich)
Subject: Re: HELP ME INJECT...
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Radford)
Lines: 5
According to a previous poster, one should seek a doctor's
assistance for injections. But what about Sumatriptin [sp?]?
Doesn't one have to inject oneself immediately upon the onset
of a migraine?
|
5388 | From: bmaraldo@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Commander Brett Maraldo)
Subject: AKG 340 Electrostatic/Dynamic Headphones For Sale
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Lines: 14
I have a pair of AKG 340 headphones for sale. They are an electrostatic
dyanmic headphone; a dynamic element for the bottom end and an electrostatic
for the high end. They are very comfortable and sound very nice. They are
in like new condition. I would like $220CDN for the pair.
Brett Maraldo
--
-------- Unit 36 Research ---------
"Alien Technology Today"
bmaraldo@watserv1.UWaterloo.ca
{uunet!clyde!utai}!watserv1!bmaraldo
|
5389 | From: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
Subject: Re: migraine and exercise
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
Lines: 29
JL> From: jlecher@pbs.org
JL> > I would not classify a mild headache that was continuous for weeks
JL> > as migraine, even if the other typical features were there (e.g.,
JL> > unilateral, nausea and vomiting, photophobia). Migraines are, by
JL> > common agreement, episodic rather than constant.
JL> >
JL> Well, I'm glad that you aren't my doctor, then, or I'd still be suffering.
JL> Remember, I was tested for any other cause, and there was nothing. I'm
JL> otherwise very healthy.
JL> The nagging pain has all of the qualifications: it's on one side, and
JL> frequently included my entire right side: right arm, right leg, right eye,
JL> even the right side of my tongue hurt or tingled. Noise hurt, light hurt,
JL> thinking hurt. When it got bad, I would lose my ability to read.
The differential diagnosis between migraine and non-migranous pain
is not *always* important, because some therapies are effective in
both (e.g., tricyclic antidepressants such as amitriptyline,
non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs such as ibuprofen). Other
therapies may be more specific: beta-blockers such as propranolol
work better in migraine than tension-type headache.
The most important thing, from your perspective, is that you got
relief. Also, please understand that a diagnosis other than
migraine does not necessarily mean "psychogenic"; I suspect that
organic factors play as large a role in tension-type headache as in
migraine.
---
. SLMR 2.1 . E-mail: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
|
5390 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: >>>>>>Pompous ass
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>>>How long does it [the motto] have to stay around before it becomes the
>>>default? ... Where's the cutoff point?
>>I don't know where the exact cutoff is, but it is at least after a few
>>years, and surely after 40 years.
>Why does the notion of default not take into account changes
>in population makeup?
Specifically, which changes are you talking about? Are you arguing
that the motto is interpreted as offensive by a larger portion of the
population now than 40 years ago?
keith
|
5391 | From: csc3phx@vaxa.hofstra.edu
Subject: Loosing color.
Lines: 9
Hi guys.
I am scanning in a color image and it looks fine on the screen. When I
converted it into PCX,BMP,GIF files so as to get it into MS Windows the colors
got much lighter. For example the yellows became white. Any ideas?
thanks
Dan
csc3phx@vaxc.hofstra.edu
|
5392 | From: jllee@acsu.buffalo.edu (Johnny L Lee)
Subject: RE: === MOVING SALE ===
Summary: RE: === MOVING SALE ===
Organization: UB
Lines: 44
Nntp-Posting-Host: lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu
Reduced Prices!
I have a list of things forsale on behalf of my brother, who's moving (moved
already)
Offer:
1) Black and Decker Duster Plus (Portable Hand Vaccum)
purchased for $32, $12
2) SR-1000 Dual Cassette Portable Player, AM/FM
5-Band graphics Equalizer, high speed dubing, Duo
Tape.Tape deck A, seems to have lost treble sound.
But, I bet it's fixable.
purchased for $80 $25
3)Monolux Zoom MicroScope, up to 1200X magnification
Made in Japan, includes case and accessories
purchased for $50 $20
4)Sunbeam 1400 Hair Dryer, the dryer you put your
head under/into. You know, the ones you see in the salons.
(Don't ask me why my bro had it)
purchased for $60 $24
5)Everylast Speed Bag, all leather. Brand new, never
used $10
6)Osterizer Pusle Matic Blender, with 10 speeds
and a cookbook, 5 years old $10
purchased for $50
8)Binolux Binoculars . 7x35, extra wide angle
525ft. at 1000yds. with case. very new. $20
9)Proctor and Silex Spray,Steam and Dry Iron.
very new. $10
Any questions, contact me thru e-mail and I will reply expeditously
And always, S+H are not included, so please consider this.
And lastly, I'm a very reasonable.Very Reasonable.
Thanks,
John
|
5393 | From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Finland/Sweden vs.NHL teams (WAS:Helsinki/Stockholm & NHL expansion)
In-Reply-To: tervio@katk.Helsinki.FI's message of Thu, 15 Apr 1993 09:39:37 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
Lines: 120
In <tervio.40@katk.Helsinki.FI> tervio@katk.Helsinki.FI writes:
> Now what if the two teams were merged (this has been proposed in Tampere
> with Ilves ( =Lynx) and Tappara ( =Axe). The fans wouldn't take it !
> They rather see their teams out of the playoffs most of the time or even
> relegated than merged. It's not that difficult to understand, it's just
> like here in Helsinki. You *grow up* being either a Jokerit- or HIFK -fan.
> The other team is the last team in the world you would support. I'm not
> talking about 'hate' but about extremely deeply rooted rivalry.
"Deeply rooted rivalry?" Ahem, Jokerit have been around since 1967 and joined
the top flight only in the early '70s. Helsingfors IFK have been around since
1897 but fans only started taking hockey seriously in the 1960s so I think
you're exagerating here.
> However, it's been proved that both fan groups can cheer the same team
> - that's "the Finnish national team". Maybe that's how you could set up a
> huge franchise in Finland. No one has ever said that the team must be
> called after one city or play all its games on one arena. Just one Team
> Finland and Team Sweden in the NHL just wouldn't make any sense - we have
> way more talent than 1/24th of the total of North American talent. After a
> couple of seasons you would never see the cup going anywhere outside the
> Nordic (presuming that our teams would have the advantage in drafting
> local talent, as prooposed).
That's a rather bold claim, in the light of how successful the Canadian &
American Olympic teams have been . . . and they've had to play according to our
set of rules and on international ice. The 1992 Olympic teams contained about
as much talent as your average expansion team. Canada had Eric Lindros, Sean
Burke, Joe Juneau and Chris Kontos. Another four or five have been deep subs in
the NHL. As for the Yanks, Keith Tkachuk, Scott Lachance, Bret Hedican, Shawn
McEachern, Steve Heintze, Ted Donato, Joe Sacco and Bill Guerin have been
3rd/4th line players in the NHL, while Robb Stauber has done well for the
Kings in goal. Nothing more. In fact, I'm sure that an All-Star team assembled
from the best Finnish League teams would do no better in the NHL than Hartford
or Tampa Bay currently are doing.
---
But what happens if _all_ top-class Finnish & Swedish players gradually end up
with Helsinki & Stockholm as the North American-based ones gradually retire and
no Canadian/American team is allowed to draft new players from Scandinavia?
Here is what THE HOCKEY NEWS scouts think of our NHL-based players:
(28-30=superstar)
(23-27=star)
(18-22=NHL regular+)
(13-17=NHL regular)
( 8-12=role player)
FINLAND:
D-Jyrki Lumme.......20
D-Teppo Numminen....20
D-Peter Ahola.......13
C-Jari Kurri........25
C-Christian Ruuttu..16
R-Teemu Selanne.....27
L-Esa Tikkanen......20
(Obviously, Selanne's ratings would be higher today than they were in January)
SWEDEN:
D-Ulf Samuelsson....21
D-Fredrik Olausson..20
D-Niklas Lidstrom...18
D-Calle Johansson...18
D-Kjell Samuelsson..17
D-Tommy Sjodin......13
D-Tommy Albelin......7
C-Mats Sundin.......26
C-Thomas Steen......18
R-Thomas Sandstrom..22
R-Ulf Dahlen........18
R-Michael Nylander..13
L-Per-Erik Eklund...18
L-Johan Garpenlov...16
L-Mikael Andersson..15
L-Jan Erixon........14
This would be interesting. Clearly, Finland's top five players (Winnipeg's
Selanne & Numminen, Vancouver's Lumme, Los Angeles' Jari Kurri and New York's
Tikkanen) are right up there with any five-man unit Pittsburgh & co. have. But
I have my doubts about the home-based Finnish players - the national team did
well in the Canada Cup and World Championships largely due to the efforts of
Markus Ketterer (the goalie), 3-4 or the players listed above and luck. There's
presumably a lot of decent players in Finland that wouldn't be superstars at
the highest level but still valuable role players, however. My guess would be
that the Finnish Canada Cup team would be a .500 team in the NHL.
---
Sweden is easier to judge because they have more players in North America.
Their points total (16 players) is 274 - seven more than Ottawa's 22 top
players combined! If we estimate there are six more NHL regulars back home in
Sweden, an all-Swedish team would assemble about 350-360 skill points.
Deducting some points from Pittsburgh, NY Rangers and other teams that rely on
Swedish players, the Swedish team would finish in sixth place - about as high
as Boston, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal on paper! So, the "dynasty" talk
isn't completely unfounded here. An all-Finnish/all-Swedish team might have an
advantage because the players would be playing at home half of the time,
won't have to adapt to a foreign country and a foreign language, and presumably
play the wide-open European variant of hockey rather than have to learn the
North American checking game. However, if free agency becomes a factor the top
Scandinavian players still might end up playing for large-market teams after a
couple of years the same way Edmonton's "dynasty" crumbled in the late '80s.
Some fringe players likely will be drafted by other NHL teams as having an
exclusive talent pool might be a bit unfair after all. I'd settle for a
compromise, prohibit all European teams from signing a North American during
the first two rounds but allow them to keep their top two players. After this,
the amateur draft should be open to anyone.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> J O O J O O J O K E R I T ! ! ! Finland over Czech in the Final
> B R U I N P O W E R ! ! ! Bruins over Blackhawks in 6
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
MARCU$
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5394 | From: waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Todd J. Dicker)
Subject: Re: Hamza Salah, the Humanist
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Lines: 19
dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
> He-he. The great humanist speaks. One has to read Mr. Salah's posters,
> in which he decribes Jews as "sons of pigs and monkeys", keeps
> promising the "final battle" between Muslims and Jews (in which the
> stons and the trees will "cry for the Muslims to come and kill the
> Jews hiding behind them"), makes jokes about Jews dying from heart
> attacks etc, to realize his objective stance on the matters involved.
>
> -Danny Keren.
----------
Don't worry, Danny, every blatantly violent and abusive posting made by
Hamzah is immediately forwarded to the operator of the system in which he
has an account. I'd imagine they have quite a file started on this
fruitcake--and have already indicated that they have rules governing
racist and threatening use of their resources. I'd imagine he'll be out
of our hair in a short while.
Todd
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5395 | From: B8HA <B8HA@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: RE: Jews/Islam Dr. Frankenstien
Lines: 99
Nntp-Posting-Host: vm1.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Some of your article was cut off on the right margin, but I will try
and answer from what I can read.
In article <C5ssqE.Dps@odin.corp.sgi.com> kaveh@gate-koi.corp.sgi.com (Kaveh Smith ) writes:
>I have found Jewish people very imagentative and creative. Jewish religion was the foundation for Christianity and
>Islam. In other words Judaism has fathered both religions. Now Islam has turned against its father I may say.
>It is Ironic that after communizem threat is almost gone, religion wars are going to be on the raise.
>I thought the idea of believing on one God, was to Unite all man kind. How come both Jews and Islam which believe
>on the same God, "the God of Ebrahim" are killing each other? Is this like Dr. Frankenstien's story?
>How are you going to stop this from happening? How are you going to deal with so many Muslims. Nuking them
>would distroy the whole world? Would God get mad, since you have killed his followers, you believe on the same
>God, same heaven and the same hell after all? What is the peacefull way of ending this Saga?
>
Judaism did not father Islam. We had many of the same prophets, but
Judaism ignores prophets later prophets including Jesus Christ (who
Christians and Muslims believe in) and Mohammed. The idea of believing
in one God should unite all peoples. However, note that Christianity
and Islam reflect the fact that there are people with different views
and the rights of non-Christians and non-Muslims are stated in each
religion.
>Man kind needs religion, since it sets up the rules and the regulations which keeps the society in a healthy state.
>A religion is mostly a sets of rules which people have experienced and know it works for the society.
>The praying, keeps the sole healthy and meditates it. God does not care for man kinds pray, but man kind hopes
>that God will help him when he prays.
>Religion works mostly on the moral issues and trys to put away the materialistic things in the life. But the
>religious leaders need to make a living through religion? So they may corrupt it, or turn it to their own way to
>make their living. i.e Muslims have to pay %20 percent of their income to the Mullahs. I guess the rabie gets his
>cut too!
>
We are supposed to pay 6% of our income after all necessities are
paid. Please note that this 6% is on a personal basis - if you are
poor, there is no need to pay (quite the contrary, this money most
often goes to the poor in each in country and to the poor Muslims
around the world). Also, this money is not required in the human
sense (i.e. a Muslim never knocks at your door to ask for money
and nobody makes a list at the mosque to make sure you have paid
(and we surely don't pass money baskets around during our prayer
services)).
>Is in it that religion should be such that everybody on planet earth respects each other, be good toward each other
>helps one another, respect the mother nature. Is in that heaven and hell are created on earth through the acts
>that we take today? Is in it that within every man there is good and bad, he could choose either one, then he will
>see the outcome of his choice. How can we prevent man kind from going crazy over religion. How can we stop
>another religious killing field, under poor Gods name? What are your thoughts? Do you think man kind would
>to come its senses, before it is too late?
>
>
>P.S. on the side
>
>Do you think that Moses saw the God on mount Sina? Why would God go to top of the mountain? He created
>the earth, he could have been anywhere? why on top the mountain? Was it because people thought to see God
>you have to reach to the skies/heavens? Why God kept coming back to Middle East? Was it because they created
>God through their imagination? Is that why Jewish people were told by God, they were the chosen ones?
>
God's presence is certainly on Earth, but since God is everywhere,
God may show signs of existence in other places as well. We can not
say for sure where God has shown signs of his existence and where
he has not/.
>Profit Mohammad was married to Khadijeh. She was a Jewish. She taught him how to trade. She probably taught
>him about Judaism. Quran is mostly copy right of Taurah (sp? old testement). Do you think God wrote Quran?
>Makeh was a trade city before Islam. Do you think it was made to be the center of Islamic world because Mohammad
>wanted to expand his trade business? Is that why God has put his house in there?
>
The Qur'an is not a copyright of the Taurah. Muslims believe that
the Taurah, the Bible, and the Qur'an originally contained much the same
message, thus the many similiarities. However, the Taurah and the
Bible have been 'translated' into other languages which has changed
their meaning over time (a translation also reflects some of the
personal views of the translator(s). The Qur'an still exists in the
same language that it was revealed in - Arabic. Therefore, we know
that mankind has not changed its meaning. It is truly what was revealed
to Mohammed at that time. There are many scientific facts which
were not discovered by traditional scientific methods until much later
such as the development of the baby in the mother's womb.
>I think this religious stuff has gone too far. All man kind are going to hurt from it if they do not wise up.
>Look at David Koresh, how that turned out? I am afraid in the bigger scale, the Jews and the Muslims will
>have the same ending!!!!!!!!
>
Only God knows for sure how it will turn out. I hope it won't, but if
that happens, it was the will of God.
>Religion is needed in the sense to keep people in harmony and keep them doing good things, rather than
>plotting each others distruction. There is one earth, One life and one God. Let's all man kind be good toward
>each other.
>
>God help us all.
>Peace
>.
>.
Please send this mail to me again so I can read the rest of what
you said. And yes, may God help us all.
Steve
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5396 | From: hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU
Subject: Re: ISLAM BORDERS. ( was :Israel: misisipi to ganges)
Originator: hasan@lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Nntp-Posting-Host: lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
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In article <4805@bimacs.BITNET>, ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich) writes:
|>
|> Hassan and some other seemed not to be a ware that Jews celebrating on
|> these days Thje Passover holliday the holidy of going a way from the
|> Nile.
|> So if one let his imagination freely work it seemed beter to write
|> that the Zionist drean is "from the misisipi to the Nile ".
the question is by going East or West from the misisipi. on either choice
you would loose Palestine or Broklyn, N.Y.
I thought you're gonna say fromn misisipi back to the misisipi !
|> By the way :
|>
|> What are the borders the Islamic world dreams about ??
|>
|> Islamic readers, I am waiting to your honest answer.
Let's say : " let's establish the islamic state first" or "let's free our
occupied lands first". And then we can dream about expansion, Mr. Gideon
hasan
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5397 | From: dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Detroit Tigers
Nntp-Posting-Host: mozzarella.journalism.indiana.edu
Reply-To: dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Lines: 17
David Vergolini writes
> The roar at Michigan and Trumbull should be loader than ever this year.
> With Mike Illitch at the head and Ernie Harwell back at the booth, the tiger
> bats will bang this summer. Already they have scored 20 runs in two games
> and with Fielder, Tettleton, and Deer I think they can win the division. No
> pitching! Bull! Gully, Moore, Wells, and Krueger make up a decent staff that
> will keep the team into many games....
Yeah, if the Tigers can keep scoring 20 runs a game. If I'm reading all this
woofing correctly, one midseason slump is going to pull this team out of
contention. Like Yogi says, I'll believe when I believe it.
--
David J.(dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu)*****Blue Riddle Productions 1993
*-------------------------------It's on.--------------------------------*
***"THE RAP IS AN ART EP" is coming out on tape -- this time for real.***
*------------------------E-mail me for the 411.-------------------------*
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5398 | From: mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer)
Subject: Re: Dodgers Take 2 Straight From Pirates
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 25
In article <1qqob2INNqev@mizar.usc.edu> pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger) writes:
>Davis and Strawberry attributed their turn arounds to Reggie Smith,
>the Dodger batting coach who flew in from Florida three days
>ago and gave them a pep talk and some instruction. Davis was
>4-5 yesterday and had a couple more hits today. Strawberry
>had two hits yesterday and I believe he had two more today, with
>two home runs.
Foolish me. And here I thought it had something to do with the
fact that they were hitting against Wakefield, who had no "kncukle"
to his ball that day, and Otto, who has no stuff. I wonder if
Reggie gave the same pep talk and instruction to the rest of the
lineup, who also suddenly came alive those two games.
-- The Beastmaster
--
Mark Singer
mss@netcom.com
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5399 | From: jar2e@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Virginia's Gentleman)
Subject: Re: From Israeli press. Madness.
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 8
This post has all the earmarks of a form program, where the user types in
a nationality or ethnicity and it fills it in in certain places in the story.
If this is true, I condemn it. If it's a fabrication, then the posters have
horrible morals and should be despised by everyone on tpm who values truth.
Jesse
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