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From: pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey) Subject: Re: Sabbath Admissions 5of5 Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'. Lines: 86 In article <Apr.20.03.02.26.1993.3803@geneva.rutgers.edu> clh writes: >Re: Are you Christian or Pauline? >Both. Sure, why not? But, are you using Paul to correct the words of Jesus? >There is no doubt in my mind about what is sin and what is >not, at least not in this case. Jesus did not deal explicitly with >the question of whether the Law was binding on Gentiles. "So *anyone* who dissolves even one of the smallest commands and teaches others the same way, will be known as the lowest in the kingdom of the skies; whereas *anyone* who keeps the commands and teaches them too, will be known as *someone* great in the kingdom of the skies." Mat5:19 (Gaus) Are you an "anyone" or are you a "no one?" Why not assume, that since Jesus didn't say that his words apply only to Jews, that they apply to all human beings, irregardless of race or sex? Why not assume, that even though Jesus did not mention your name, still Jesus was talking directly to you? >That's why I >have to cite evidence such as the way Jesus dealt with the Centurion. >As to general Jewish views on this, I am dependent largely on studies >of Pauline theology, one by H.J. Schoeps, and one whose author I can't >come up with at the moment. Both authors are Jews. Also, various >Christian and non-Christian Jews have discussed the issue here and in >other newsgroups. >Mat 5:19 is clear that the Law is still valid. It does not say that >it applies to Gentiles. Does it say that it applies to *you*? Are you anyone or no one? >And yes, I say that the specific requirement for worship on the >Sabbath in the Ten Commandments is a ceremonial detail, when you're >looking at the obligations of Gentiles. Ex20:8-11(JPS) Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; you shall not do any work - you, your son or daughter, your male or female slave, or your cattle, or the stranger who is within your settlements. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth and sea, and all that is in them, and He rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and hollowed it. Note: There is no specific requirement for worship here, however I for one would not be so bold as to call these verses a "ceremonial detail." >Similarly circumcision. Don't many Christians still practice circumcision? >I'm not sure quite what else I can say on this subject. Again, it's >unfortunate the Jesus didn't answer the question directly. It's unfortunate that Jesus didn't use your name directly, or maybe Jesus did? Are you somebody or nobody? >However we >do know (1) what the 1st Cent. Jewish approach was, (2) how Jesus >dealt with at least one Gentile, and (3) how Jesus' disciples dealt >with the issue when it became more acute (I'm referring to Acts 15 >more than Paul). Given that these are all in agreement, I don't see >that there's a big problem. If you don't see a problem, then perhaps there is none. As Paul closes Romans 14 (Gaus): In short, pursue the ends of peace and of building each other up. Don't let dietary considerations undo the work of God. Everything may be clean, but it's evil for the person who eats it in an offensive spirit. Better not to eat the meat or drink the wine or whatever else your brother is offended by. As for the faith that you have, keep that between yourself and God. The person is in luck who doesn't condemn himself for what he samples. On the other hand, the person with doubts about something who eats it anyway is guilty, because he isn't acting on his faith, and any failure to act on faith is a sin. [As far as I know, Christians (except specific Jewish Christian groups, and maybe some of the sabbatarians -- both of which are very small groups) do not practice circumcision on religious grounds. In some countries it has been done for supposed health reasons, but I've not heard it argued that it is being done because of the Biblical commandment. --clh]
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From: tsa@cellar.org (The Silent Assassin) Subject: Questions about Plane Eqn method of Hidden Surface removal Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system Lines: 18 What are the main advantages of this method? I have seen it described, and the algiorithm seems a little bit long. I developed my own method, which requires that the points be in a counter-clockwise order, and returns whether you are looking at the back or the front, similar to the plane eqn method. It uses few calculations however, basically it is several comparisons. The only disadvantage I see is that it must be done after the transformation from view coordinates to coordinates to display on the screen, which means that a little more calculation isneeded beforehand. My method basically figures out whether the points that will appear on the screen are clockwise or counterclockwise. When looking at the back of something, the points occur in an opposite direction from the front, so merely by figuring out which way the points go, you can tell whether you are looking at the back or front of a 2d polygon. Has anyone heard of this method before? It is so simple, I doubt i am the first to think of it. Libertarian, atheist, semi-anarchal Techno-Rat. I define myself--tsa@cellar.org
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From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (William Turnbow) Subject: Re: Discussions on alt.psychoactives Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 39 Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (William Turnbow) NNTP-Posting-Host: athena In article <1r4bhsINNhaf@hp-col.col.hp.com> billc@col.hp.com (Bill Claussen) writes: > >This group was originally a takeoff from sci.med. The reason for >the formation of this group was to discuss prescription psychoactive >drugs....such as ... > >Oh well, obviously, no one really cares. --- Then let me ask you for a "workable" solution. We have a name here that implies certain things to many people. Rather than trying to educate each and every person that comes to the group -- is there some "name" that would imply what this group was originally intended for? My dad was a lawyer -- as such I grew up with being a stickler for "meaning". In my "reality", psychoactives *technically* could range from caffeine to datura to the drugs you mention to more standard recreational drugs. In practice I had hoped to see it limited to those that were above some psychoactive level -- like some of the drugs you mention, but also possibly including *some* recreational drugs -- but with conversation limited to their psychoactive effects -- the recent query about "bong water", I thought was a bit off topic -- so I just hit "k". But back to the original question -- what is a workable solution -- what is a workable name that would imply the topic you with to discuss? It sounds like there should be a alt.smartdrugs, or something similar -- I don't feel psychoactives would generally be used to describe alot of those drugs. There is a big difference between a drug that if taken in "certain doses, over a period of days may have a psychoactive effect in some people", vs. many of the drugs in PIHKAH which *are* psychoactive. wm -- :: If pro-choice means choice after conception, does this apply to men too? ::
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From: pla@sktb.demon.co.uk ("Paul L. Allen") Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow] Reply-To: pla@sktb.demon.co.uk Organization: Chaos Lines: 70 X-Newsreader: Archimedes ReadNews -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In message <9304190956.AA10390@pizzabox.demon.co.uk> you write: > : The cops/feds do *not* need to be able to get hold of your private key to > : listen in to cellular conversations. Encryption is not end-to-end, but > : cellphone to base-station [...] > That was true for the UK Paul, but I'm fairly sure they're talking about > building end-to-end encryption phones out of this chip. It's *not* for > cellular (though it certainly could be used there in the way you suggest) I'd lost the White House's deathless prose when I posted (that's what happens when you read news at home when you're rat-arsed), but I did have a bunch of follow-ups going on about cellular/cordless comms. The original article has reappeared, so: The President today announced a new initiative that will bring the Federal Government together with industry in a voluntary program to improve the security and privacy of telephone communications while meeting the legitimate needs of law enforcement. Hmm, telephone communications could indeed include end-to-end encryption on ordinary landlines. The initiative will involve the creation of new products to accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure telecommunications networks and wireless communications links. But the next paragraph says telecoms networks and wireless communications links. OK, it's far from clear exactly what Cripple (what an apposite anagram) will be applied to, but the reason Joe Public wants secure comms is to stop people listening in to his cellular or cordless phones (and he wouldn't even be bothered about that were it not for Wingnut and Squidqy's misfortunes). Yes, Cripple *might* be for end-to-end encyption, dropping to clear when the other end doesn't have Cripple. But then a cordless-to-ordinary conversation would be in clear leaving the cordless end just as vulnerable as at present. Nope, I suspect that Cripple will only be used on radio links. OK, it's possible `telecommunications networks' could mean `ordinary phone lines', but I'm betting it means the microwave links used by the telcos. My apologies if I'm wrong, particularly if the turgid Press Release makes it clear that I'm wrong and I missed it, but as far as I can see it was full of obfuscation, and anyone expecting end-to-end encryption is in for a surprise (IMHO). BTW, Graham, I've posted questions to alt.security.pgp and not seen any replies/followups from outside Europe - how about you? Have I made it into everyone's kill file, or is there some problem? - --Paul -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.2 iQCVAgUBK9SPBmv14aSAK9PNAQGJBwP/ZoKyrm0gemlyYsNj8bqoH8l8qLJoMRBo eOCClpKsTavebtdCLIGqHNzoWC6Ar2K1blIbpUa2tWnqwRGVa15OgOc7XXKJJ093 yb7P/vWvQbXYiA6zDJ5zkQsDeP7X6ckIDVDRz5CdIS+oNXtiOtHk3s3B3wjQBjCU vks8KOV8gfg= =gVy0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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From: bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de (Christian Bauer) Subject: Re: CD300 & 300i Nntp-Posting-Host: christian.informatik.uni-ulm.de Organization: University of Ulm Lines: 18 In article <Afi9sHS00VohMrYlEe@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Donpaul C. Stephens" <deathbird+@CMU.EDU> wrote: > > What is the difference? > I want a double-spin CD-ROM drive by May > > looking into NEC and Apple, doublespins only > what is the best? Nec Toshiba and Sony (Apple) nearly deliver the same speed. As apples prices are very low (compared to there RAM SIMMS) You should buy what is inexpencive. But think of Driver revisions. It is easier to get driver kits from Apple than from every other manufacturer Christian Bauer bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de
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Subject: Pattern Generator wanted From: grimwood@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Tony Grimwood) Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand. Keywords: pattern Summary: MDA/EGA/VGA pat. gen. Lines: 15 I repair a lot of monitors here, and I'd like to know where I can get a pattern generator (or a circuit for one) that will provide MDA, EGA and VGA signals. Using a whole PC to do this takes up too much space on my bench, and is somewhat less than portable. I guess I could sit down and design something, but I don't have the time right now - any (reasonable) suggestions would be appreciated. TNX TG -- Tony Grimwood, ZL1TTG "Make no friendship with an elephant Biomedical Engineering Services keeper, unless you have room to University of Auckland entertain an elephant." Auckland, New Zealand == Saadi of Shiraz ==
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From: dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu (David J.) Subject: MARLINS WIN! MARLINS WIN! Article-I.D.: usenet.C51Buv.KLn Reply-To: dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University Lines: 8 Nntp-Posting-Host: poppy.journalism.indiana.edu I only caught the tail end of this one on ESPN. Does anyone have a report? (Look at all that Teal!!!! BLEAH!!!!!!!!!) -- David J.(dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu)*****Blue Riddle Productions 1993 *-------------------------------It's on.--------------------------------* ***"THE RAP IS AN ART EP" is coming out on tape -- this time for real.*** *------------------------E-mail me for the 411.-------------------------*
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Subject: Re: Kawi Zephyr? (was Re: Vision vs GpZ 550) From: REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU Organization: University of Maine System Lines: 17 I don't know about the dinky little Zephyr's, but the 1100 (now the ZR1100) looks alot like my '76 Z1/ KZ900! The one I drooled over at Tri-Sports in Topsham, ME was a looker! Yes, Mercury axed the Zephyr name. Guess a lot of aging Republicans wanted a Zephyr and confused the Mercury with the Kawasaki :). Oh well, they're better off with the Kawasaki anyways. Maybe it'll shake the stick out of their asses and make Libertarians out of them! As to the GPz <--> Zephyr, the only GPz I've seen had the ball-buster gas tank profile, not the smooth saddle - to - gas tank transition. _Motorcyclist_ claims the Zephyr / ZR is the modernized Z1 (KZ) from the seventies. Jeff Andle DoD #3005 1976 KZ900 REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU IntermittentNet access arranged through Bowdoin College. Please reply via e-mail, since a followup might expire before I see the Net again.
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From: fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk) Subject: Re: Science and methodology (was: Homeopathy ... tradition?) Organization: University of Rochester Distribution: inet In article <C5JDuo.K13@unx.sas.com> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes: >Of course we can't hope (currently at least) to explain how or why >Kekule had the daydream of snakes in the fire biting their tails. >Surely it wasn't the *only* daydream he had. What was special about >*this* one? Could it have had something to do with a perceived >*analogy* between the geometry of the snakes and problems concerning >geometry of molecules? Is such analogical reasoning "extra-scientific"? >Or is it rather at the very heart of science (Perice's notion of abduction, >the use of models within and across disciplines)? Upon close examination, >is there a non-rational mystical leap taking place, or is it perhaps >closer to a formal (though often incomplete) analogy or model? I feel the need to repeat myself: Kekule's dream is a rather bad example of much of anything. Read Root-Bernstein's book on the history of the benzene ring. -- Mark A. Fulk University of Rochester Computer Science Department fulk@cs.rochester.edu
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From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) Subject: Re: x86 ~= 680x0 ?? (How do they compare?) Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California Distribution: usa Lines: 30 rvenkate@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Ravikuma Venkateswar) writes ... >ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes: >>040 486 030 386 020 286 > >How about some numbers here? Some kind of benchmark? Benchmarks are for marketing dweebs and CPU envy. OK, if it will make you happy, the 486 is faster than the 040. BFD. Both architectures are nearing then end of their lifetimes. And especially with the x86 architecture: good riddance. >Besides, for 0 wait state performance, you'd need a cache anyway. I mean, >who uses a processor that runs at the speed of 80ns SIMMs? Note that this >memory speed corresponds to a clock speed of 12.5 MHz. The point being the processor speed is only one of many aspects of a computers performance. Clock speed, processor, memory speed, CPU architecture, I/O systems, even the application program all contribute to the overall system performance. >>And roughly, the 68040 is twice as fast at a given clock >>speed as is the 68030. > >Numbers? Look them up yourself. -- Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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From: tsa@cellar.org (The Silent Assassin) Subject: Wanted: 286 motherboard, VGA card Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system Lines: 9 I am looking for a 286 motherboard, preferable 12 or 16, 640k or 1 meg RAM. I am also looking for a VGA card. Am willing to trade 1200 external, 5.25" LD Drive, 8088 motherboard, monochrome monitor, Game Boy, in some combination for the above. Libertarian, atheist, semi-anarchal Techno-Rat. I define myself--tsa@cellar.org
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Subject: Re: Bates Method for Myopia From: jc@oneb.almanac.bc.ca Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Nanaimo, B.C. Keywords: Bates method Summary: Proven a hoax long ago Lines: 15 Dr. willian Horatio Bates born 1860 and graduated from med school 1885. Medical career hampered by spells of total amnesia. Published in 1920, his great work "The Cure of Imperfect Eyesight by Treatment With- out Glasses", He made claims about how the eye actually works that are simply NOT TRUE. Aldous Huxley was one of the more "high profile" beleivers in his system. Mr. Huxley while giving a lecture on Bates system forgot the lecture that he was supposedely reading and had to put the paper right up to his eyes and then resorted to a magnifying glass from his pocket. book have been written debunking this technique, however they remain less read than the original fraud. cheers jc@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (John Cross) The Old Frog's Almanac (Home of The Almanac UNIX Users Group) (604) 245-3205 (v32) <Public Access UseNet> (604) 245-4366 (2400x4) Vancouver Island, British Columbia Waffle XENIX 1.64
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From: twork@egr.msu.edu (Michael Twork) Subject: Re: Thumbs up to ESPN Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 6 Reply-To: twork@egr.msu.edu (Michael Twork) NNTP-Posting-Host: frith.egr.msu.edu istribution: Originator: twork@frith.egr.msu.edu >Especially when the wings player hit the rut and went into the boards injuring his shoulder and they blotted out the injury report. The Wings player was Yves Racine, and he returned later in that same period. Mike
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From: mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Strider) Subject: Re: Guns GONE. Good Riddance ! Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX Lines: 22 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: louie.cc.utexas.edu cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes: :jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes: :> Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect :> them. Resistance is useless. : :Don't tell me -- you're the "Borg Warner," right? HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Hee, hee. <chuckle> This was absolutely fabulous. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing. Wonderful! Mr. Tavares, my hat is off to you again! Mike Ruff -- - This above all, to thine own S T R I D E R mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu - self be true. --Polonius * * ***** ** * * **** ***** *** * * Those who would sacrifice essential * * * * * * * * * * ** * liberties for a little temporary * * * **** * * **** * * * * * safety deserve neither liberty * * * * * * * * * * * ** nor safety. --B. Franklin **** * * * **** **** * *** * *
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From: renouar@amertume.ufr-info-p7.ibp.fr (Renouard Olivier) Subject: LOOKING for CTDS ! Keywords: CTDS Nntp-Posting-Host: amertume.ufr-info-p7.ibp.fr Organization: Universite PARIS 7 - UFR d'Informatique Lines: 5 I can't find CTDS (Connect The Dots Smoother) in France. If it is a commercial program I'll happily pay whatever it may cost (do not take it litterally). Please help! I have *LOTS* of PoV sources, texture images and animations though, if you are looking for something, just tell.
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From: ken@cs.UAlberta.CA (Huisman Kenneth M) Subject: images of earth Nntp-Posting-Host: cab101.cs.ualberta.ca Organization: University of Alberta Lines: 14 I am looking for some graphic images of earth shot from space. ( Preferably 24-bit color, but 256 color .gif's will do ). Anyways, if anyone knows an FTP site where I can find these, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could pass the information on. Thanks. ( please send email ). Ken Huisman ken@cs.ualberta.ca
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From: jason@ab20.larc.nasa.gov (Jason Austin) Subject: Polls (was Re: Top Ten Excuses for Slick Willie's Record-Setting Disapproval Rati) Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA Lines: 37 Reply-To: Jason C. Austin <j.c.austin@larc.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: ab20.larc.nasa.gov In-reply-to: libwca@emory.edu's message of 14 Apr 93 20:31:09 GMT In article <2680@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes: -> : According to a ``CNN Poll'' to key reason for Clinton's low -> : approval rating is people are angry about him not moving fast enough -> : on gays in the military. I just burst out laughing when I heard this; -> : what planet do these CNN people live on anyway? -> : -- -> : Jason C. Austin -> : j.c.austin@larc.nasa.gov -> -> Dunno, man... that sounds pretty damned unlikely to me, too, -> although it's certainly one of the reasons I'm pissed off at him. -> Maybe the sample was taken entirely from my fellow memebers of the -> Cultural Elite? -> -> Jason, can you quote some of these poll questions? -> -> Thanks, -> Bill -> v I've never seen CNN give out the poll questions on the air. If you sent them a letter asking for them, you might get them. Here's my guess of how part of a session might look: Question: Do you approve of Clinton's performance? Answer: No Questions: Do you disapprove due to the gays in the military issue? Answer: Yes Conclusion: Clinton has a low approval rating because he's not moving fast enough on gays in the military. I think any group truly dedicated to reporting the news would not use manufactured news like polls. -Jason
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From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda) Subject: Rom 9-11 article ready..requests Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 14 A section of Richard Badenas' book, "Christ The End of the Law, Romans 10.14 in Pauline Perspective." The section I have is on the Contextual setting and meaning of Romans 9-11. In addition, there are 111 endnotes. Since the file is so long, and because of other reasons, I will take requests for the article personally. Of course, I believe Badenas' insights to be true, and, quite damaging to the traditional Augustinian/Calvinist view. ==================================== Ted Kalivoda (tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu) University of Georgia, Athens UCNS/Institute of Higher Ed.
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From: prange@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange) Subject: Re: BMW MOA members read this! Nntp-Posting-Host: nickel.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University Lines: 21 I first heard it about academic politics but the same thought seems to apply to the BMWMOA "The politics is so dirty because the stakes are so small." Who cares? I get my dues-worth from the ads and occasional technical articles in the "News". I skip the generally drab articles about someone's trek across Iowa. If some folks get thrilled by the power of the BMWMOA, they deserve whatever thrills their sad lives provide. BTW, I voted for new blood just to keep things stirred up. Henry Prange Physiology/IU Sch. Med., Blgtn., 47405 DoD #0821; BMWMOA #11522; GSI #215 ride = '92 R100GS; '91 RX-7 conv = cage/2; '91 Explorer = cage*2 The four tenets of all major religions: 1. I am right. 2. You are wrong. 3. Hence, you deserve to be punished. 4. By me.
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From: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu Subject: Re: Eco-Freaks forcing Space Mining. Article-I.D.: aurora.1993Apr23.001718.1 Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks Lines: 28 Nntp-Posting-Host: acad3.alaska.edu In article <1r6b7v$ec5@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes: > Besides this was the same line of horse puckey the mining companies claimed > when they were told to pay for restoring land after strip mining. > > they still mine coal in the midwest, but now it doesn't look like > the moon when theyare done. > > pat === I aint talking the large or even the "mining companies" I am talking the small miners, the people who have themselves and a few employees (if at all).The people who go out every year and set up thier sluice box, and such and do mining the semi-old fashion way.. (okay they use modern methods toa point). I am talking the guy who coem to Nome evry year, sets up his tent on the beach (the beach was washed away last year) and sets up his/her sluice box and goes at it "mining". I know the large corps, such as Alaska Gold Company, might complain to.. My opinions are what I learn at the local BS table.. My original thing/idea was that the way to get space mining was to allow the eco-freaks thier way.. As they have done with other mineral development. You can't in many places can't go to the bathroom in the woods without some form of regulation covering it.. == Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
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From: uphrrmk@gemini.oscs.montana.edu (Jack Coyote) Subject: Re: RFD: misc.taoism Reply-To: uphrrmk@gemini.oscs.montana.edu (Jack Coyote) Organization: Never Had It, Never Will Lines: 8 Sunlight shining off of the ocean. -- Aleph null bottles of beer on the wall, Aleph null bottles of beer! Take one down, pass it around ... Aleph null bottles of beer on the wall!
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From: nilayp@violet.berkeley.edu (Nilay Patel;;;;RC38) Subject: Re: Bernoulli Drives/Disks... Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu In article <C62onK.F7A@netnews.jhuapl.edu> ncmoore2@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Nathan Moore) writes: >nilayp@violet.berkeley.edu (Nilay Patel) writes: >>I am looking for Bernoulli removable tapes for the 20/20 drive.. >>Don't laugh ... I am serious... >>If you have any 20 MB tapes lying around that you would like to get rid of, >>please mail me ... > >>-- Nilay Patel >>nilayp@violet.berkeley.edu >You do mean disks, don't you, not tapes? You forgot to say whether you >were looking for the old 8" or the newer 5.25". Well...I need the old 8" disks ... You are right, disks is a better word, but they are so big and calling them disks is kind of funny ... but the appropriate word is disks ... -- Nilay Patel nilayp@violet.berkeley.edu
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From: caldwell@facman.ohsu.edu (Larry Caldwell) Subject: Re: Merlin, Mithras and Magick Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University Lines: 29 Nntp-Posting-Host: facman kosinski@us.oracle.com (Kevin Osinski) writes: >I recall reading in Michael (?) Rutherford's novel "Sarum" a scene in >which the son of a Roman nobleman living in Britain takes part in a >secret ceremony involving a bull. He stands naked in a pit covered >with some sort of scaffolding while assistants coax a bull to stand on >the scaffolding. They then fatally stab the bull, which douses the >worshipper in the pit with blood. This is supposedly some sort of >rite of passage for members of the bull cult. I wonder if this is >related to the Mithras cult? > >I don't know where Rutherford got his information for this chapter. >The book is historical fiction, and most of the general events which >take place are largely based on historical accounts. There is a rite like this described in Joseph Campbell's _Occidental_Mythology_. He also described levels of initiation, I think 6? I don't know where Campbell got his info, but I remember thinking he was being a little eclectic. >I also wonder what if any connection there is between the ancient bull >cults and the current practice of bullfighting popular in some >Mediterranean cultures. Quite a bit. If you haven't read Campbell, give him a try. -- -- Larry Caldwell caldwell@ohsu.edu CompuServe 72210,2273 Oregon Health Sciences University. (503) 494-2232
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From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) Subject: Israeli Media (was Re: Israeli Terrorism) Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) Organization: NCSU Chem Eng Lines: 33 In article <2BD9C01D.11546@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes: |> In article <1993Apr24.203620.6531@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes: |> >I think the Israeli press might be a tad bit biased in |> >reporting the events. I doubt the Propaganda machine of Goering |> >reported accurately on what was happening in Germany. It is |> >interesting that you are basing the truth on Israeli propaganda. |> |> Since one is also unlikely to get "the truth" from either Arab or |> Palestinian news outlets, where do we go to "understand", to learn? |> Is one form of propoganda more reliable than another? The only way |> to determine that is to try and get beyond the writer's "political |> agenda", whether it is "on" or "against" our *side*. |> |> Tim To Andi, I have to disagree with you about the value of Israeli news sources. If you want to know about events in Palestine it makes more sense to get the news directly from the source. EVERY news source is inherently biased to some extent and for various reasons, both intentional and otherwise. However, the more sources relied upon the easier it is to see the "truth" and to discern the bias. Go read or listen to some Israeli media. You will learn more news and more opinion about Israel and Palestine by doing so. Then you can form your own opinions and hopefully they will be more informed even if your views don't change. Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU) Jake can call me Doctor Mohandes Brad "Ali" Hernlem (as of last Wednesday)
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From: rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch) Subject: Re: Expose Events Organization: Oracle Europe Lines: 5 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Please excuse my previous posting. It was appended to this thread by accident. --> Robert
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From: cjhs@minster.york.ac.uk Subject: Re: Xt intrinsics: slow popups Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England Lines: 36 Bryan Boreham (bryan@alex.com) wrote: : In article <735259869.13021@minster.york.ac.uk>, cjhs@minster.york.ac.uk writes: : > The application creates window with a button "Quit" and "Press me". : > The button "Press me" pops up a dialog box. The strange feature of : > this program is that it always pops up the dialog box much faster the : > first time. If I try to pop it up a 2nd time (3rd, 4th .... time), : > it is *much* slower. : : The shell is waiting for the window-manager to respond to its : positioning request. The window-manager is not responding because : it thinks the window is already in the right place. : : Exactly *why* the two components get into this sulk is unclear to : me; all information greatly received. Thanks for this clue, and thanks to Derek Ho also for a pointer in the same direction. One solution, due to Derek Ho: when the popup is popped up, we SetValue its location -- which on repeat popups will be unchanged from the previous popup. The slow response can be avoided by calling GetValue first, and only using SetValue if the required location is different. The problem can also be avoided by making a tiny alteration in the location of the popup, so that the SetValue really does change the location of the popup. (We tried this just for a double check on the source of the problem.) The solutions we have tried successfully are now as follows: 1) Use "twm" or "mwm" rather than "olwm" 2) Use "olwm", with resource "*wmTimeout: 10" 3) Only reset the location of the popup window if it is truely changed. This is obviously working around some bug somewhere. Thanks -- Chris Ho-Stuart
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From: dreitman@oregon.uoregon.edu (Daniel R. Reitman, Attorney to Be) Subject: Re: Defense against the detractors... Organization: University of Oregon Lines: 93 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: oregon.uoregon.edu News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <1993Apr2.021154.18039@colorado.edu>, ajteel@dendrite.cs.Colorado.EDU (A.J. Teel) writes... >In article <C4tDAB.A4o@panix.com> eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler) writes: >>In <1993Apr1.141455.16433@colorado.edu>, ajteel@dendrite.cs.Colorado.EDU sez: >>> (I would have thought you would have found better means >>>of refuting or responding to the substantive points and information in >>>the S.B. >>The S.B. needs no refutation by me. The patent absurdity of your >>beloved Great Book speaks for itself. > Your ignorance is clearly showing itself again, Mark. > Why don't you read the post and show us all where the > Silver Bulletin is wrong. It is an expose' of the > corruption and fraud in government. Or do you feel > that our wonderful state is just nifty and sweet? Fine. If you think it's an expose of corruption and fraud, please prevent a jury question. Don't just reassert your opening statement. >. . . >>For those in the dark, I wrote to Teel's sysadmin noting that a) he >>wastes bandwidth by posting identical messages (long ones) to several >>newsgroups independently (instead of cross-posting), and b) he has >>improperly used his posts to advertise goods for sale. > A) I was requested to post to those groups > and they were getting deleted... By whom? > B) The "goods for sale" was a method of showing the > source and obtaining further info... > And the message in question was retrieved in its entirety > from the net. I simply reposted it from one year ago. > Would there be a complaint if I had posted an article from > "Newsweek" then posted the address and subscription price? > How about the subscription info for the American Law Review? > Bit of a double standard? Yeah... think so... No indication that was what happened until now. Editing down is always possible. >. . . >>Readers more careful than A.J. will note that the complaint (appended >>below) expressly disclaims any wish to suppress Teel's postings merely >>because they are infantile, irrational, and tedious. > More name calling, Mark? Is that your best shot? > Oh, I see. The reason for your sending that letter > had nothing to do with your opinion of my information... > Right. Clearly your motivations were the best interest > of all of those poor users who could not speak for themselves. > If we weren't talking about attempted censorship(sp?), it > would be funny... > Further, your "perception" (for want of a better term) is not > the feedback that I have been getting via email and others. > The "keep it up!"'s outnumber the "Go away!"'s at least 20 to 1. It would be interesting to hear who the responding parties are. > I, for one, have no intention of being a slave. You may > be so if you like. Just remember where you heard that > on Tribute Day (April 15). I am not a 14th Amendment > taxpayer/slave/SSN holder/etc. Are you? FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY: Don't let the IRS see this, Mr. Teel. >. . . . > And by the way, the reference to UCC 1-207 is made > in pari materia with my Common-Law Rights. 1-207 > is the recourse and 1-103 is the remedy. And, as has been noted more times than we care to count, about as likely to stand up in court as the twenty-seven eight by ten color glossy pictures the Stockbridge, Mass., police, took for use as evidence against Arlo Guthrie. (As anyone who knows Alice's Restaurant is aware, he pleaded guilty to littering, was fined $50, and told to pick up the garbage.) Daniel Reitman HOW NOT TO WRITE A DEED One case involved the construction of a conveyance to grantees "jointly, as tenants in common, with equal rights and interest in said land, and to the survivor thereof, in fee simple. . . . To Have and to Hold the same unto the said parties hereto, equally, jointly, as tenants in common, with equal rights and interest for the period or term of their lives, and to the survivor thereof at the death of the other." The court held that the survivorship provision indicated an intent to create a joint tenancy. Germain v. Delaine, 294 Ala. 443, 318 So.2d 681 (1975).
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From: ernie@ferris (Ernest Smith) Subject: Re: Handgun Restrictions Originator: ernie@ferris Lines: 24 Nntp-Posting-Host: ferris.cray.com Organization: Cray Research Superservers, Inc. Distribution: usa >To: bbs.billand@tsoft.net >Subject: Re: Handgun Restrictions >Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns >In-Reply-To: <ow522B2w165w@tsoft.net> >Organization: Cray Research, Inc. >Cc: >Bcc: > In article <ow522B2w165w@tsoft.net> you write: >I would like to know what restrictions there are on purchasing handguns >(ie waiting periods, background check etc..) in the states of Nevada and >Oregon. Thanks. > -Bill > >-- >Bill Anderson (bbs.billand@tsoft.net) In Oregon your must get a background check (ie fingerprints, full slap), 15 day waiting period. That is unless you have a CCW then all requirments have been meet. Ernie Smith ernie@oregon.cray.com
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From: tom@ssd.csd.harris.com (Tom Horsley) Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip) Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division Lines: 27 <1993Apr20.150531.2059@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1993Apr20.192105.11751@ulysses.att.com> <C5sy1z.4tD@demon.co.uk> <1993Apr21.132318.16981@ulysses.att.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: amber.ssd.csd.harris.com In-reply-to: smb@research.att.com's message of Wed, 21 Apr 1993 13:23:18 GMT >I don't like the unit key generation process any better than you do. >However -- S1 and S2 are supposed to be under control of the same >escrow agents. If they can't be trusted to keep the seed values secure, >they can't be trusted to keep the half-keys secure. I hope there is something I don't understand about this system, but can someone tell me how these chips are going to be manufactured while maintaining each half key under total control of the separate escrow agencies? Don't both halfs of the key have to come together (in some form) at the time the chip is constructed? Or is it built like a fusable prom, with the chip being sent to the 1st escrow agency to program its 1/2 key, then the 2nd agency to program its 1/2 key (but who invents the safeguards that prevent the 2nd agency from reading the information already programmed by the 1st)? This isn't intended to be a flame or anything, I am just really curious how to manufacture these things while still maintaining the key escrow security without simply saying "trust the manufacturer, they won't look". -- ====================================================================== domain: tahorsley@csd.harris.com USMail: Tom Horsley uucp: ...!uunet!hcx1!tahorsley 511 Kingbird Circle Delray Beach, FL 33444 +==== Censorship is the only form of Obscenity ======================+ | (Wait, I forgot government tobacco subsidies...) | +====================================================================+
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From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) Subject: Re: Quadra SCSI Problems??? Keywords: Quadra SCSI APS Nntp-Posting-Host: me.udel.edu Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 19 In article <1993Apr16.144750.1568@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> nodine@lcs.mit.edu (Mark H. Nodine) writes: >I don't know about the specific problem mentioned in your >message, but I definitely had SCSI problems between my >Q700 and my venerable Jasmine Megadrive 10 cartridge >drives. My solution was to get Silverlining. None of >the loops that involved blind writes worked to the drives; >in fact the only loop that worked was the "Macintosh >Software" loop (whatever that means). I doubt this is a Quadra-specific problem. I had to get rid of my "venerable" Bernoulli 20 last year (with enough cartridges purchased at ~$90 each to make the whole thing worth more than my whole computer ;). The tech support guys at Ocean Microsystems suggested that some third-party drivers might fix the problem - in my case the cartridges wouldn't format/mount/partition for A/UX. -- -- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu) -- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
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From: klein@math205.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (John R. Klein) Subject: Re: What happens if you completely flatten your PB's battery? Nntp-Posting-Host: math205.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Rechenzentrum Lines: 32 In article <C5FoDG.on@raistlin.udev.cdc.com> swiers@chaos.aqeng.cdc.com (Aaron Swiers) writes: > schuyler@netcom.com (Gabriel M. Schuyler) writes: > >stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes: > >>Can running a PowerBook's battery completely flat have any > >>detrimental side effects (other than the PB not going :) I ask, > > > >Only two things I can think of. > >1. Although NiCad (145,145,160,165c,170,180) batteries should be completely > > discharged about once a month, LeadAcid batteries (100) shouldn't ever be > > completely discharged (well, maybe ONCE in a while is OKAY). > > > This is a very common mis-conception dealing with Ni-cad batteries. It is > a good idea to completely discharge a ni-cad CELL periodically. It is > NOT a good idea to completely discharge a ni-cad BATTERY. The difference > being that a cell is only one cell (nicad puts out 1.2 volts) like a > rechargeable AAA, AA, C, or D. A battery is defined as more than one > cell (9 volt, or 7.2 for nicad equivalent). Due to differences in the > individual cells of a battery, complete discharge can actually harm > a nicad battery more than help it overcome the "memory effect". The > most common problem is that over time an individual cell can develop > internal shorts, which will weaken other cells that are connected to > it, thus reducing the lifespan of your battery pack. > etc.... Okay, naive question: How does one discharge a cell without discharging the entire battery?
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From: shaq@shelley.u.washington.edu (Chris Liu) Subject: Game Boy games wanted! Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 3 NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu I'm looking for some Game Boy games. Please e-mail me with your list and offers! Thanks! Also, if you have a game boy you want to get rid of, please tell me. Chris
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From: desperate fan Subject: HELP! WC coverage in Europe Originator: tervo@messi.uku.fi Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland Lines: 6 Vielen dank Desperate Fan PS. Sweden vs Finland finished 6-6 in Gothenburg 15th Apr.
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From: gsulliva@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Glenn A Sullivan) Subject: Re: making copy of a Video tape Summary: Here is Go-Video Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 14 In article <136390006@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com>, pi@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Paul Ilgenfritz) writes: > > I think the Go Video dual cassette machines do a direct tape to tape copy > which transfers Macrovision to the copy. I you can find one of these, it > would be worth a try. Go-Video machines used in HQ2 mode will copy even the MacroVision. Go-Video phone number (602)998-3400. Ask for sales department. Since the state of Arizona does not go on Daylight Savings time, we effectively are in Pacific time zone. Allen Sullivan Designing various stuff for GO-Video
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From: meyers@leonardo.rtp.dg.com (Bill Meyers) Subject: Re: That silly outdated Bill (was Re: Koresh and Miranda) Organization: N/I Lines: 17 In article <1993Apr15.165952.25970@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes: >In article <1qibs0$flk@vela.acs.oakland.edu> awesley@vela.acs.oakland.edu (awesley) writes: [ ... ] >>Actually, there was only one confirmed sniper to >die< in Detroit, >>according to Sauter & Hines, _Nightmare in Detroit, A Rebellion & It's > >What sources did Sauter and Hines use? In Congressional hearings >later, the newspaper folk admitted that their reports were completely >wrong. (Some of their excuses are understandable, while others amount >to gross negligence. Then there's their "we lied".) As far as I >know, they never did the followup. This, BTW, is normal behavior for newsie's. The followup isn't "news" ... -------- "I am pleased to accept Life Membership in the National Rifle Association and extend to your organization every good wish for continued success." -- President John F. Kennedy, March 20, 1961
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From: emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is Organization: Sun Lines: 63 NNTP-Posting-Host: hernes-sun In article <1qjahh$mrs@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: >In article <pww-140493214334@spac-at1-59.rice.edu> pww@spacsun.rice.edu (Peter Walker) writes: >#In article <1qie61$fkt@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank >#O'Dwyer) wrote: >#> Objective morality is morality built from objective values. >#But where do those objective values come from? How can we measure them? >#What mediated thair interaction with the real world, a moralon? Or a scalar >#valuino field? >Science ("the real world") has its basis in values, not the other way round, >as you would wish it. If there is no such thing as objective value, then >science can not objectively be said to be more useful than a kick in the head. >Simple theories with accurate predictions could not objectively be said >to be more useful than a set of tarot cards. You like those conclusions? >I don't. I think that you are changing the meaning of "values" here. Perhaps it is time to backtrack and take a look at the word. value n. 1. A fair equivalent or return for something, such as goods or service. 2. Monetary or material worth. 3. Worth as measured in usefulness or importance; merit. 4. A principle, standard, or quality considered inherently worthwhile or desirable. 5. Precise meaning, as of a word. 6. An assigned or calculated numerical quantity. 7. Mus. The relative duratation of a tone or rest. 8. The relative darkness or lightness of a color. 9. The distinctive quality of a speech or speech sound. In context of a moral system, definition four seems to fit best. In terms of scientific usage, definitions six or eight might apply. Note that these definitions do not mean the same thing. In my mind, to say that science has its basis in values is a bit of a reach. Science has its basis in observable fact. Even the usages of the word "value" above do not denote observable fact, but rather a standard of measurement. I would conclude that science does not have its basis in values, and so your statement above fails. In fact, if one concludes that a scientific set of measurements (values) are based on systems derived from observation, then it must follow that in a scientific context, there is no such thing as there is no such thing as "objective values." Back to the present. This has nothing to do with a moral system anyhow. Just because the word "values" is used in both contexts does not mean that there is a relationship between the two contexts. If one is to argue for objective values (in a moral sense) then one must first start by demonstrating that morality itself is objective. Considering the meaning of the word "objective" I doubt that this will ever happen. So, back to the original question: And objective morality is.....? If you can provide an objective foundation for "morality" then that will be a good beginning. >-- >Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That' >odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon eric
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From: Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca (Desiree Bradley) Subject: Being right about messiahs Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada Lines: 39 I must have missed the postings about Waco, David Koresh, and the Second Coming. How does one tell if a Second Coming is the real thing, unless the person claiming to be IT is obviously insane? I'm not saying that David Koresh is the Second Coming of Christ. How could somebody who breaks his word be the Second Coming? Koresh did promise that he would come out of his compound if only he was allowed to give a radio broadcast. He didn't. Still it seems to me that he did fool some people. And, from my meagre knowledge of the Bible, it seems that Christians have been hard on the Jews of Christ's day for being cautious about accepting somebody that their religious authorities didn't accept as the Messiah. So I was surprised that nobody had discussed the difficulty of wanting to be early to recognize the Second Coming while, at the same time, not wanting to be credulously believing just anybody who claims to be God. [Mark 13:21 And then if any one says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it. Mark 13:22 False Christs and false prophets will arise and show signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect. Mark 13:23 But take heed; I have told you all things beforehand. Mark 13:24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, Mark 13:25 and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. Mark 13:26 And then they will see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory. My understanding of Jesus' answer is that, unlike his first coming, which was veiled, the second coming will be quite unmistakeable. He's telling us not to be misled by the other things that have to happen before his second coming -- the actual second coming will make his power openly visible. By the way, from Koresh's public statement it's not so clear to me that he is claiming to be Christ. --clh]
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From: green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) Subject: Re: accupuncture and AIDS Organization: Strawman Incorporated Lines: 21 In article <C5t76D.2x6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Euclid K.) writes: >aliceb@tea4two.Eng.Sun.COM (Alice Taylor) writes: > >>A friend of mine is seeing an acupuncturist and >>wants to know if there is any danger of getting >>AIDS from the needles. > > Ask the practitioner whether he uses the pre-sterilized disposable >needles, or if he reuses needles, sterilizing them between use. In the >former case there's no conceivable way to get AIDS from the needles. In >the latter case it's highly unlikely (though many practitioners use the >disposable variety anyway). It is illegal to perform acupuncture with unsterilized needles. No licensed practitioner would dare do this. Also there is not a single documented case of transmission of AIDS via acupuncture needles. I wouldn't worry about it. -- ****************************************************************************** Robert Greenstein What the fool cannot learn he laughs at, thinking green@srilanka.island.com that by his laughter he shows superiority instead of latent idiocy - M. Corelli
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From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) Subject: Re: rejoinder. Questions to Israelis Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu Although I realize that principle is not one of your strongest points, I would still like to know why do do not ask any question of this sort about the Arab countries. If you want to continue this think tank charade of yours, your fixation on Israel must stop. You might have to start asking the same sort of questions of Arab countries as well. You realize it would not work, as the Arab countries' treatment of Jews over the last several decades is so bad that your fixation on Israel would begin to look like the biased attack that it is. Everyone in this group recognizes that your stupid 'Center for Policy Research' is nothing more than a fancy name for some bigot who hates Israel. Why don't you try being honest about your hatred of Israel? I have heard that your family once lived in Israel, but the members of your family could not cut the competition there. Is this true about your family? Is this true about you? Is this actually not about Israel, but is really a personal vendetta? Why are you not the least bit objective about Israel? Do you think that the name of your phony-baloney center hides your bias in the least? Get a clue, Mr. Davidsson. Haven't you realized yet that when you post such stupidity in this group, you are going to incur answers from people who are armed with the truth? Haven't you realized that a piece of selective data here and a piece there does not make up a truth? Haven't you realized that you are in over your head? The people who read this group are not as stupid as you would hope or need them to be. This is not the place for such pseudo-analysis. You will be continually ripped to shreds, until you start to show some regard for objectivity. Or you can continue to show what an anti-Israel zealot you are, trying to disguise your bias behind a pompous name like the 'Center for Policy Research.' You ought to know that you are a laughing stock, your 'Center' is considered a joke, and until you either go away, or make at least some attempt to be objective, you will have a place of honor among the clowns, bigots, and idiots of Usenet.
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From: rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler) Subject: Re: Torre: The worst manager? Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division Lines: 75 From another not-so-distressed-but-still-wondering-about-a-few-things Cardinal fan: In article <93095@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7469a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian R. Landmann) writes: >Joe Torre has to be the worst manager in baseball. > He's not the greatest - this is true. > >For anyone who didn't see Sunday's game, > I saw it. > >With a right hander pitching he decides to bench Lankform, a left handed >hitter and play jordan and gilkey, both right handers. > Lankford was hurt, although the announcer said he told Torre he could pinch hit if they needed him to. > >Later, in the ninth inning with the bases loaded and two outs he puts >lankford, a 300 hitter with power in as a pinch runner and uses Luis >Alicea, a 250 hitter with no power as a pinch hitter. What the Hell >is he thinking. > I wondered the same thing. But giving Joe the benefit of the doubt, I'd say he was thinking that Lankford is hurt enough that he didn't trust his ability to bat effectively but he wants his speed on the bases so pinch run him. Alicea I was completely confused about. Maybe he had a good record hitting against that particular pitcher? I don't know. Anybody got an idea? > >Earlier in the game in an interview about acquiring Mark Whiten he commented >how fortunate the Cardinals were to get Whiten and that Whiten would be a >regular even though this meant that Gilkey would be hurt, But torre said >he liked Gilkey coming off the bench. Gilkey hit over 300 last year, >what does he have to do to start, The guy would be starting on most every >team in the league. > Well, so far I haven't seen much to say Whiten shouldn't be playing but it is too bad that Gilkey is the odd man out when they play Jordan ahead of him. That I don't quite understand. > >Furthermore, in Sundays game when lankford was thrown out at the plate, >The replay showed Bucky Dent the third base coach looking down the line >and waving lankford home, > Yup, I looked for this on the replay too. If I'm Joe Torre, I'm going to have a talk with Bucky after the game on that one. He's got Lankford at third with Todd Zeile I believe - a hot hitter - coming up - there's no reason to risk giving Lankford the go sign in that situation unless he was sure the ball is going to the stands. It's his job to watch the play develop - he should have known Larkin was there to back up a bad throw. That seemed inexcusable in my book. BTW, I saw Dent do the same thing last year with Zeile rounding third and going into a sure out at home in a critical situation. On the replay, there's Dent waving him around. It looks like this might be a serious problem. The Card's weren't good base runners at all last year and I wonder how much of the fault lies in the base coaching. > >I can't take this anymore > Well, I'm still hanging in there. GO REDBIRDS!! WOOF, WOOF!!! >brian, a very distressed cardinal fan. >-- > >Brian Landmann >Georgia Institute of Technology >Internet:gt7469a@prism.gatech.edu Dick Detweiler rdetweil@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
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From: lusardi@cs.buffalo.edu (Christopher Lusardi) Subject: Looking for Mr. radon Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci Lines: 9 Nntp-Posting-Host: homam.cs.buffalo.edu Does anyone have a radon transform in C that they could send me? Any help accepted, -- | .-, ###|For a lot of .au music: ftp sounds.sdsu.edu | / / __ , _ ###|then cat file.au > /dev/audio | \_>/ >_/ (_/\_/<>_ |UB library catalog:telnet bison.acsu.buffalo.edu |_ 14261 _|(When in doubt ask: xarchie, xgopher, or xwais.)
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From: durtralp@ux1.isu.edu (Ralph Durtschi) Subject: Re: IIsi clock upgrade Organization: Idaho State University, Pocatello Lines: 47 Hi, I have been getting a lot of requests for this information so I thought I would post it for those interested parties. (Sorry for length). To increase the MacIISi speed to 25MHz or 33MHz the clock must be changed from 40MHz to 50MHz or 64MHz respectively. This is done by going to a static-free work station or putting some aluminum foil down to work on. 1. Open up the Si by lifting the tabs at the back of the case. 2. Remove the Hard Disk by disconnecting the power and SCSI cables, spreading the tabs, and lifting the drive out. 3. Remove the flopy drive. 4. Remove the power supply by spreading the tab in front and lifting the supply straight up and out. 5. Remove the fan by pressing the ears together at the back, bottom side of the fan and lifting straight up and out. 6. Remove the Mother Board by spreading the tabs on the left and right side of the board and sliding the board forward then lifting the board out. (all connectors on the back of the board must be removed first) 7. Desolder the 40MHz clock (the one closest to the memory modules). This is not easy even for a skilled solderer. 8. Get an IC socket with the round pins and remove four of the pins by pushing them up from the bottom with long nose pliers. 9. Put the four pins in the holes vacated by the clock and solder them in. 10.Insert a 50MHz or 64MHz clock. 11.Put large power transistor heat sink's on the processor chip and the other large chip just to the right of the processor and figure some way to hold the heat sync's in place. I made a simple clamp by putting a four inch screw up through the hole in the board between the two chips. Mount the screw using insulated washers. Screw a cross member down over the heat sync's to hold them in place. Don't use too much pressure. 12. Put it all back together and go-for-it. Disclaimer: this is only the procedure I used and is not authorized by anyone. You are on your own for this procedure. I'm quite sure it will void your warentee. Bye for now, ************************************************ Ralph Durtschi (208) 236-3256 Idaho State University EMAIL: durtralp@ux1.isu.edu ************************************************
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From: michaelq@tlaloc.sw.stratus.com (Michael Quicquaro) Subject: For Sale: 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix SE Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering Lines: 45 Distribution: usa NNTP-Posting-Host: tlaloc.sw.stratus.com For Sale: 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix SE White, White rims, Gray interior. 58K miles (mostly highway), 3.8 Litre V6 multi-port fuel-injected engine, 5 speed manual transmission. Options include: A/C, Rear defogger, Power steering, Power brakes, Power windows, Power locks, Power mirrors, Cruise control, Power glass moonroof with sunshade, Power seat/recliner (driver's), Power seat/comfort/lumbar/headrest (both), AM/FM cassette stero, Electronic monitor/service system with graphic compass, Stereo controls duplicated on steering wheel, Remote-keyless entry, and others. Asking $11,500. The car looks and rides like it just rolled off of the dealers lot. It has been garaged and pampered. It gets an average of 27.5 mpg highway, sometimes better; city is around 19-23 mpg, depending on how it is driven. Selling because of baby coming soon. Need 4-door family car. Will consider trade or partial trade with Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, or 4-door Pontiac Grand Am or similar American car. Contact: Mike at Home: (508) 881-6312 Work: (508) 490-6963, or michaelq@tlaloc.sw.stratus.com
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From: jay@vitec.com (Jay Thompson) Subject: DOS 6.0 Organization: VITec Lines: 16 I know of two people who have horrer stories about the DOS 6.0. That's 100% of the people I know with DOS 6.0. Both have had to reformat their disks and start over. One had drive D compress and work fine, only to compress C: to have the thing choke, spit out an unintelligable warning, and then hang. All that was left on either drive was autoexec.bat and config.sys. Calls to Microsoft only met with busy signals. After reformatting the drive, I'm not sure if he had the guts to reinstall 6.0 or stay with a known entity. The other may have been a marginal drive, however, his upgrade failed, he had to format a floppy disk at 6.0, format the drive, and then reinstall. I make now claims since I was not driving at the time, however, be careful and make sure you back important things up. I am interested in any other people with similar or success stories.....
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From: erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith) Subject: Re: Lincoln & slavery (Was Re: Top Ten Tricks...) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 53 cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes: >judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin) writes: >>cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes: ># #Can you provide some evidence that the slave states regarded slaves as ># #not humans? They were "outside our society" and similar phrases that ># #basically meant that they didn't have to recognized as having the same ># #rights as a free person, but they were never considered "not human" to ># #my knowledge. ># Isn't the fact that slaves were "purchased" as opposed to ># "hired" enough evidence that they were not thought as humans? ># Didn't the Bill of Rights provide basic freedoms to humans ># that were not available to slaves? >Not necessarily. Distinctions were made between "citizens" and >"persons" throughout the U.S. and various state constitutions. >For example, free blacks had some rights of citizens, but not all >the rights of citizens. I'm curious if there was an additional >level of distinction made by the slave states to rationalize their >treatment of slaves, or if they just ignored the theoretical >problems of slave ownership. The Bill of Rights, as far as I can see, does not once refer to "citizens", but it makes several references to "people". For example, Article IV: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated"; Article V: "no person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment by a Grand Jury ... nor shall any person ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"; Article VIII: "excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted". Now I've never heard that Constitutional rights apply only to citizens; aren't they meant to apply equally to all *persons* living in the U.S.? Whether slaves were considered "not human" I don't know, but it seems that a case could be made that they weren't treated as "people" as defined in the Bill of Rights. And since the nation is nominally based on the Declaration of Independence which states that "all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness", it would also seem that slaves would not follow under this definition of humanity. ----- Eric Smith erics@netcom.com erics@infoserv.com CI$: 70262,3610
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From: jasons@atlastele.com (Jason Smith) Subject: Re: Atheist's views on Christianity (was: Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart...") Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc. Lines: 169 In article <Apr.19.05.13.48.1993.29266@athos.rutgers.edu> kempmp@phoenix.oulu.fi (Petri Pihko) writes: = Jason Smith (jasons@atlastele.com) wrote: = = : [ The discussion begins: why does the universe exist at all? ] = = : One of the Laws of Nature, specifying cause and effect seems to dictate = : (at least to this layman's mind) there must be a causal event. No = : reasonable alternative exists. = = I would argue that causality is actually a property of spacetime; = causes precede their effects. And I must concede here. Cause *before* effect, implies time, time is part of spacetime. Hense, the argument would be valid. I could return and say that this does not infer the cause and effect relationship being *unique* to *this* spacetime, but I won't 8^), because the point is moot. Doesn't address why (which Petri Pikho addresses below). I also concede that I was doubly remiss, as I asserted "No reasonable alternative exists", an entirely subjective statement on my part (and one that could be invalidated, given time and further discovery by the scientist). I also understand that a proving a theory does not necessarily specify that "this is how it happened", but proposes a likely description of the phenomena in question. Am I mistaken with this understanding? = But if you claim that there must be = an answer to "how" did the universe (our spacetime) emerge from = "nothing", science has some good candidates for an answer. All of which require something we Christians readily admit to: ``Faith''. The fact that there are several candidates belies that *none* are conclusive. With out conclusive evidence, we are left with faith. It could even be argued that one of these hypotheses may one day be proven (as best as a non-repeatable event can be "proven"). But I ask, what holds someone *today* to the belief that any or all of them are correct, except by faith? [ a couple of paragraphs deleted. Summary: we ask "Why does the universe exist" ] = I think this question should actually be split into two parts, namely = = 1) Why is there existence? Why anything exists? = = and = = 2) How did the universe emerge from nothing? = = It is clear science has nothing to say about the first question. However, = is it a meaningful question, after all? = = I would say it isn't. Consider the following: Apparently it *is* for many persons. Hence, we *have* religions. = The question "why anything exists" can be countered by = demanding answer to a question "why there is nothing in nothingness, = or in non-existence". Actually, both questions turn out to be = devoid of meaning. Things that exist do, and things that don't exist = don't exist. Tautology at its best. Carefully examine the original question, and then the "counter-question". The first asks "Why", while the second is a request for definition. It doesn't address why something does or does not exist, but asks to define the lack of existence. The second question is unanswerable indeed, for how do we identify something as "nothing" (aren't they mutually exclusive terms)?. How do we identify a state of non-existence (again, this is nearing the limits of this simple layman's ability to comprehend, and I would appreciate an explanation). I might add, the worldview of "Things that exist do, and things that don't...don't" is as grounded in the realm of the non-falsifiable, as does the theist's belief in God. It is based on the assumption that there is *not* a reason for being, something as ultimately (un)supportable as the position of there being a reason. Its very foundation exists in the same soil as that of one who claims there *is* a reason. We come to this. Either "I am, therefore I am.", or "I am for a reason." If the former is a satisfactory answer, then you are done, for you are satisfied, and need not a doctor. If the latter, your search is just beginning. = I seriously doubt God could have an answer to this question. Time will tell. 8^) = = Some Christians I have talked to have said that actually, God is = Himself the existence. However, I see several problems with this = answer. First, it inevitably leads to the conclusion that God is = actually _all_ existence, good and evil, devils and angels, us and = them. This is pantheism, not Christianity. Agreed. It would lead me to question their definition of Christianity as well. = Another answer is that God is the _source_ of all existence. = This sounds much better, but I am tempted to ask: Does God = Himself exist, then? If God is the source of His own existence, = it can only mean that He has, in terms of human time, always = existed. But this is not the same as the source of all existence. This does not preclude His existence. It only seeks to identify His *qualities* (implying He exists to *have* qualities, BTW). = The best answer I have heard is that human reasoning is incapable = of understanding such questions. Being an atheist myself, I do not = accept such answers, since I do not have any other methods. Like the theist, we come to a statement of faith, for this position assumes that the evidence at hand is conclusive. Note, I am not arguing against scientific endeavor, for science is useful for understanding the universe in which we exist. But I differ from the atheist in a matter of perspective. I seek to understand what exists to understand and appreciate the art of the Creator. I also have discovered science is an inadequate tool to answer "why". It appears that M. Pihko agrees (as we shall see). But because a tool is inadequate to answer a question does not preclude the question. Asserting that 'why' is an invalid question does not provide an answer. = : As far as I can tell, the very laws of nature demand a "why". That isn't = : true of something outside of nature (i.e., *super*natural). = = This is not true. Science is a collection of models telling us "how", = not why, something happens. I cannot see any good reason why the "why" = questions would be bound only to natural things, assuming that the = supernatural domain exists. If supernatural beings exist, it is = as appropriate to ask why they do so as it is to ask why we exist. My apologies. I was using why as "why did this come to be". Why did pre-existence become existence. Why did pre-spacetime become spacetime. But we come to the admission that science fails to answer "Why?". Because it can't be answered in the realm of modern science, does that make the question invalid? = : I don't believe *any* = : technology would be able to produce that necessary *spark* of life, despite = : having all of the parts available. Just my opinion. = = This opinion is also called vitalism; namely, that living systems are = somehow _fundamentally_ different from inanimate systems. Do Christians = in general adopt this position? What would happen when scientists announce = they have created primitive life (say, small bacteria) in a lab? I suppose we would do the same thing as when Galileo or Capernicus was *vindicated* (before someone starts jumping up and down screaming "Inquisition!", note I said *vindicated*. I certainly hope we've gotten beyond the "shooting the messenger" stage). M. Pihko does present a good point though. We may need to ask "What do I as an individual Christian base my faith on?" Will it be shaken by the production of evidence that shatters our "sacred cows" or will we seek to understand if a new discovery truly disagrees with what God *said* (and continues to say) in his Word? "Why do I ask why?" (apologies to Budweiser and company 8^]). Jason. -- Jason D. Smith | jasons@atlastele.com | I'm not young enough to know everything. 1x1 |
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From: choueiry@liasun1.epfl.ch (Berthe Y. Choueiry) Subject: French to English translation of medical terms Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: liasun1.epfl.ch Dear Netters, I am not sure whether this is the right place to post my query, but I thought there may be some bilingual physicians in this newsgroup that could help. Please, excuse me for overloading the bandwidth. I am trying to build a resource allocation program for managing a surgical operating unit in a hospital. The user interface is in English, however the terms of medical specialties I was given are in French :-( I have no medical dictionary handy, mine is a technical university :-(( I need to get the translation into English (when there is one) of the following words. They refer to medical categories of operating rooms (theaters). I admit they may not be universally "used". 1- sceptique 2- orl 3- brulure/brule' 4- ne'onatal 5- pre'natal 6- pre'mature' 7- neurochirurgie (neuro-surgery??) 8- chirurgie ge'ne'rale 9- chirurgie plastique 10- urologie (urology??) Thank you for you help. Cheers, --------- Berthe Y. Choueiry choueiry@lia.di.epfl.ch LIA-DI, Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne, Ecublens CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland Voice: +41-21-693.52.77 and +41-21-693.66.78 Fax: +41-21-693.52.25 -------- ps: please reply by e-mail if possible since I scan too quickly through the messages of this newsgroup.
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From: MCAVALCANTI%VORTEX.UFRGS.BR@UICVM.UIC.EDU Subject: DTP Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 3 NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu Please Ineed information about desk top publishe- post graduate courses and if possible email address or normal mail. thanks in advance
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From: bearpaw@world.std.com (bearpaw) Subject: Re: MOW BODYCOUNT Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 33 spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes: >> Any thoughts on who is going to count all of the gorgeous bodies at >> the MOW? The press? The White House Staff? The most Junior >> Senator? The King of the motss/bi? >> >> Just curious as to whose bias we are going to see when the numbers >> get brought out. > >Probably, law enforcement people (Park Service Police and D.C. cops), >who will use aerial photographs and extrapolate based on the >density of the crowd in small regions. > >These sort of techniques derive from Army Intelligence and CIA >methods of estimating troop strength, and tend to be >methodologically skewed to always come up with inflated numbers, >so as to justify bigger budgets. Judging from past experience (the '87 March, a Peace and Justice March the same year, and 3 different Pro-coice Marches), The Park Service will come out with an estimate that is approximately 1/2 the estimate that organizers will come up with - though the last Choice march I went to had a sign-in system, and the numbers ended up closer. And then you've got the media types in their helicopters, rolling dice. I believe the MOW plans and handing out some sort of wristband thingy, and basing their count on those. I see two problems with this. One, can they get *everybody* to take one (and only one)? Two, they couldn't possibly have been able to choose a color/design that won't clash with *somebody's* outfit! :-> bearpaw
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From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) Subject: Re: The Inimitable Rushdie Organization: sgi Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com In article <115468@bu.edu>, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes: |> In article <1qg79g$kl5@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes: |> |> >You are amazed that I find it difficult to grasp it when |> >people justify death-threats against Rushdie with the |> >claim "he was born Muslim?" |> |> This is empty rhetoric. I am amazed at your inability to understand what |> I am saying not that you find it difficult to "grasp it when people |> justify death-threats...". I find it amazing that your ability to |> consider abstract questions in isolation. You seem to believe in the |> falsity of principles by the consequence of their abuse. You must *hate* |> physics! You're closer than you might imagine. I certainly despised living under the Soviet regime when it purported to organize society according to what they fondly imagined to be the "objective" conclusions of Marxist dialectic. But I don't hate Physics so long as some clown doesn't start trying to control my life on the assumption that we are all interchangeable atoms, rather than individual human beings. jon.
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From: alung@megatest.com (Aaron Lung) Subject: Re: Exploding TV! Organization: Megatest Corporation Distribution: usa Lines: 39 In article <1qk4hj$qos@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> prasad@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Prasad Ramakrishna) writes: >I had a GE Emerson 13" color TV for about 3 years and one fine day, >while we were watching something (I doubt if the program was the cause), >we heard a mild explosion. Our screen went blank but there was sound, >so we thought, 'oh we have special effects on the program'. But soon >the sound stopped and smoke started to appear at the back of the TV. >The brilliant EEs we are, we unplugged the TV and called customer service >only to be thrown around by please hold, I will transfer u to blah blah.. > Finally we abandoned the idea of trying to fix the TV and got a new one >(we wanted a bigger one too!). > After all the story, what I wanted to know is: Is my problem an isolated >incident or a common one? (I recall reading about Russian TVs exploding, but >not here, in the US). Why would the picture tube explode or even smoke? > I still have the left over TV set, I might dig into it this summer. Any >idea where I can get parts for these things? (probably will cost more than TV). > Heh, heh, heh, heh....I laugh because I have the same damn TV, and it did the same thing! Actually it is a Goldstar, but it's essentially the same TV and electronics--just a different face plate and name. #1. Fortunately, TV tubes don't explode. I'd think the TV mfrs want to make this possibility remote as possible. If at all, they'll *implode* and the glass that blows out would be the result of the glass boucing off the back of the tube due to the implosion. In any case, don't kick it around! :-) #2 I fixed the TV after getting a hold of some schematics. It turned out to be a blown 2W resistor feeding the flyback transformer. I guess the original resistor was a bit too small to dissipate the heat it created, burning itself out. I checked to make sure the flyback wasn't shorted or anything first! Oh, luckily, I had a resistor handy lying around that had just the right value for what I needed. I can't see it being more than 50 cents!. Well, needless to say, the TV still works today. So go get a set of schematics and have some fun...just don't get shocked poking around the flyback.
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From: schwenk@fred.cis.udel.edu (Peter A. Schwenk) Subject: Does Win3.1 use a math co-processor? Nntp-Posting-Host: fred.cis.udel.edu Organization: University of Delaware, Newark Lines: 6 If a PC has one, does Windows 3.1 use a math co-processor? I'm not talking about specific apps, but the OS (if you want to call it that) itself? Please respond by email. - Peter Schwenk (schwenk@cis.udel.edu)
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From: gt6511a@prism.gatech.EDU (COCHRANE,JAMES SHAPLEIGH) Subject: Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews? Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 20 Hmm... am I the only person that remembers Masada? This isn't the first time a group has committed suicide to avoid persecution/capture... and you seem to miss the point that the raid SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! I find the FBI actions too damn reminiscent of the Warsaw Ghetto... fitting that Al Gore was in Poland for events marking the 50th anniversery of that... Remove any references to dates and you have two raids by government troops wearing black uniforms, carrying automatic weapons, backed by armored vehicles, against religious minorities they claim were practicing sexually deviant behavior and hoarding weapons... Too damn similar... James ps: I am not advocating the BD's, I just find the whole situation too damn troubling. -- ******************************************************************************** James S. Cochrane * When in danger, or in doubt, run in * This space gt6511a@prism.gatech.edu * circles, scream and shout. * for rent ********************************************************************************
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From: rkim@eecg.toronto.edu (Ryan Kim) Subject: New break pads & exhausts after 96K km (60K mi) on '90 Maxima? Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 43 Hi, maybe someone can help me here... I am looking to buy this 1990 Nissan Maxima GXE for CDN$14000 right now. The car has 96000 km (or about 60000 miles) on it. A typical mileage for 1990 cars seem to be about 70000 km (or about 43K mi). The seller just informed me that when he brought the car in for certification he was told that the front break pads and the exhausts had to be replaced to meet the legal standards. (He said he will replace the components before selling the car to me.) Being copmletely ignorant to the technical stuff on cars, I don't know what this could mean... Is 96K km about the time typical for replacing the above mentioned items? Or is this an indication that the car was abused? Would other things break down or have to be replaced soon? The seller told me that he used the car on the highway a lot, but, I don't know how to verify this... I've seen the paint chipped away in tiny dots in the front edge of the hood, though. Although the Maxima is an excellent car and the car is very clean and well kept, it's currently out of warranty (a similarly priced '90 Accord with 70K km will have 2 years or 30K km worth of warranty left) and I don't want to worry about paying for any repair bills... But, I also need a car for 5 people... When will the new Maxima come out, by the way? I would very much appreciate your input in this. Please reply by e-mail (preferred) or post in this newsgroup. Thanks! Ryan ======== Ryan Kim University of Toronto, EECG, Computer Graphics rkim@eecg.toronto.edu "Do not weave between traffic cones at road works." - from the new British Highway Code (Toronto Star April 3, 1993)
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From: cs902060@ariel.yorku.ca (GEOFFREY E DIAS) Subject: Attention anyone in Syracuse NY or Richmond VA Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada Lines: 13 There are two conflicting reports about a pitcher that is either in the Jays' farm system or the Braves'. His name is Bill Taylor. He was picked up by the Jays, but had to be offered back to the Braves before they were able to send him to the Syracuse Chiefs. One report says that the Braves took him back and assigned him to Richmond. The other says that he is on the Chiefs' roster. Which one is right?
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From: gthomas@fraser.sfu.ca (Guy Thomas) Subject: Re: What is going on?... Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Distribution: inet Lines: 13 zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes: >In article <1993Apr16.055100.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes: >... >> If you can't be bothered reading, get the video "Manufacturing Consent". >> >In reply to mail queries; I don't know if a video is available yet. I asked >about a month ao and was told RSN. Yes it is. From the National Film Board of Canada. Guy gthomas@native-ed.bc.ca
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From: andre@bae.bellcore.com (Andre Cosma) Subject: Is authentication a planned feature for X11R6? Nntp-Posting-Host: broccoli.bae.bellcore.com Organization: Bellcore Distribution: na Lines: 15 Greetings, My question is whether the upcoming release of X11R6 will provide (strong) authentication between the X clients and server(s). If so, will this feature be based on the Kerberos authentication mechanism (and, if so, will Kerberos Version 5 be used)? Please reply via email. Thanks, --Andre -- Andre S. Cosma | RRC 1N-215 | Bellcore - Security and andre@bae.bellcore.com | 444 Hoes Lane | Data Services (908) 699-8441 | Piscataway, NJ 08854| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: kxgst1@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert) Subject: Re: Contraceptive pill Article-I.D.: blue.7984 Lines: 20 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] jec@watson.ibm.com wrote: : A very simple question : it seems to me that the contraceptive : pill just prevents the ovule to nest in the vagina and forces it to : fall every month. But it does not prevent the fertilzation of the : ovule. Is it true ? If yes, is there a risk of extra-uterine : pregnancy, that is the development of the ovule inside the Fallopian : tube ? Actually that is not how the pill works, but it *is* how the IUD works. The oral contraceptive pill actually *prevents* ovulation from occuring by providing negatve feedback to the pituitary gland, and thus preventing the LH surge that normally occurs at the time of ovulation. With the IUD what happens is that fertilization may occur, but the device prevents implantation within the wall of the uterus (*not* the vagina). -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh = = General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer! = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch) Subject: Overriding Default Behaviour Organization: Oracle Europe Lines: 23 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Usually when I start up an application, I first get the window outline on my display. I then have to click on the mouse button to actually place the window on the screen. Yet when I specify the -geometry option the window appears right away, the properties specified by the -geometry argument. The question now is: How can I override the intermediary step of the user having to specify window position with a mouseclick? I've tried explicitly setting window size and position, but that did alter the normal program behaviour. Thanks for any hints ---> Robert PS: I'm working in plain X. ****************************************************************************** * Robert Gasch * Der erste Mai ist der Tag an dem die Stadt ins * * Oracle Engineering * Freihe tritt und den staatlichen Monopolanspruch * * De Meern, NL * auf Gewalt in Frage stellt * * rgasch@nl.oracle.com * - Einstuerzende Neubauten * ******************************************************************************
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From: davem@bnr.ca (Dave Mielke) Subject: Does God love you? Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 416 I have come across what I consider to be an excellent tract. It is a bit lengthy for a posting, but I thought I'd share it with all of you anyway. Feel free to pass it along to anyone whom you feel might benefit from what it says. May God richly bless those who read it. ======================================================================= D O E S G O D L O V E Y O U ? Q. What kind of question is that? Anyone who can read sees signs, tracts, books, and bumper stickers that say, "God Loves You." Isn't that true? A. It is true that God offers His love to the whole world, as we read in one of the most quoted verses in the Bible: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 However, God's love is qualified. The Bible says: The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness. Proverbs 15:9 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish. Psalm 1:6 Q. But I am not wicked. I am a decent, moral person. Surely the good I have done in my life far outweighs whatever bad I have done. How can these verses apply to me? A. By God's standard of righteousness even the most moral person is looked upon by God as a desperate sinner on his way to Hell. The Bible teaches that no one is good enough in himself to go to Heaven. On the contrary, we are all sinners and we are all guilty before God. As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Romans 3:10-11 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9 Q. If I am such a wicked person in God's sight, what will God do to me? A. The Bible teaches that at the end of the world all the wicked will come under eternal punishment in a place called Hell. For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains. I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them. They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust. Deuteronomy 32:22-24 Q. Oh, come on now! Hell is not real, is it? Surely things are not that bad. A. Indeed, Hell is very real, and things are that bad for the individ- ual who does not know the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior. The Bible makes many references to Hell, indicating that it is both eternal and consists of perpetual suffering. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:15 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:49-50 ... when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 Q. That is terrible! Why would God create a Hell? A. Hell is terrible, and it exists because God created man to be accountable to God for his actions. God's perfect justice demands payment for sin. For the wages of sin is death; Romans 6:23 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2 Corinthians 5:10 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. Matthew 12:36 Q. Does that mean that at the end of the world everyone will be brought to life again to be judged and then to be sent to Hell? A. Indeed it does; that is, unless we can find someone to be our substitute in bearing the punishment of eternal damnation for our sins. That someone is God Himself, who came to earth as Jesus Christ to bear the wrath of God for all who believe in Him. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Isaiah 53:6 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. Isaiah 53:5 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. 2 Corinthians 5:21 Q. Are you saying that if I trust in Christ as my substitute, Who was already punished for my sins, then I will not have to worry about Hell anymore? A. Yes, this is so! If I have believed in Christ as my Savior, then it is as if I have already stood before the Judgment Throne of God. Christ as my substitute has already paid for my sins. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36 Q. But what does it mean to believe on Him? If I agree with all that the Bible says about Christ as Savior, then am I saved from going to Hell? A. Believing on Christ means a whole lot more than agreeing in our minds with the truths of the Bible. It means that we hang our whole lives on Him. It means that we entrust every part of our lives to the truths of the Bible. It means that we turn away from our sins and serve Christ as our Lord. No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Matthew 6:24 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; Acts 3:19 Q. Are you saying that there is no other way to escape Hell except through Jesus? What about all the other religions? Will their followers also go to Hell? A. Yes, indeed. They cannot escape the fact that God holds us account- able for our sins. God demands that we pay for our sins. Other religions cannot provide a substitute to bear the sins of their followers. Christ is the only one who is able to bear our guilt and save us. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12 Jesus said: I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9 Q. Now I am desperate. I do not want to go to Hell. What can I do? A. You must remember that God is the only one who can help you. You must throw yourself altogether on the mercies of God. As you see your hopeless condition as a sinner, cry out to God to save you. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. Luke 18:13 ... Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, ... Acts 16:30-31 Q. But how can I believe on Christ if I know so little about Him? A. Wonderfully, God not only saves us through the Lord Jesus, but He also gives us the faith to believe on Him. You can pray to God that He will give you faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Ephesians 2:8 God works particularly through the Bible to give us that faith. So, if you really mean business with God about your salvation, you should use every opportunity to hear and study the Bible, which is the only Word of God. In this brochure, all verses from the Bible are within indented paragraphs. Give heed to them with all your heart. So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17 Q. But does this mean that I have to surrender everything to God? A. Yes. God wants us to come to Him in total humility, acknowledging our sinfulness and our helplessness, trusting totally in Him. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. Psalm 51:17 Because we are sinners we love our sins. Therefore, we must begin to pray to God for an intense hatred of our sins. And if we sincerely desire salvation, we will also begin to turn from our sins as God strengthens us. We know that our sins are sending us to Hell. Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Acts 3:26 Q. Doesn't the Bible teach that I must attend church regularly and be baptized? Will these save me? A. If possible, we should do these things, but they will not save us. No work of any kind can secure our salvation. Salvation is God's sovereign gift of grace given according to His mercy and good pleas- ure. Salvation is Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:9 Q. What else will happen at the end of the world? A. Those who have trusted in Jesus as their Savior will be transformed into their glorious eternal bodies and will be with Christ forever- more. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Q. What will happen to the earth at that time? A. God will destroy the entire universe by fire and create new heavens and a new earth where Christ will reign with His believers forever- more. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. ... Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 2 Peter 3:10,13 Q. Does the Bible give us any idea of when the end of the earth will come? A. Yes! The end will come when Christ has saved all whom He plans to save. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 24:14 Q. Can we know how close to the end of the world we might be? A. Yes! God gives much information in the Bible concerning the timing of the history of the world and tells us that while the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night for the unsaved, it will not come as a thief for the believers. There is much evidence in the Bible that the end of the world and the return of Christ may be very, very close.* All the time clues in the Bible point to this. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3:7 Q. But that means Judgment Day is almost here. A. Yes, it does. God warned ancient Nineveh that He was going to destroy that great city and He gave them forty days warning. And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. Jonah 3:4 Q. What did the people of Nineveh do? A. From the king on down they humbled themselves before God, repented of their sins, and cried to God for mercy. But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands. Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? Jonah 3:8-9 Q. Did God hear their prayers? A. Yes. God saved a great many people of Nineveh. Q. Can I still cry to God for mercy so that I will not come into judg- ment? A. Yes. There is still time to become saved even though that time has become very short. How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; Hebrews 2:3 In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God. Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Psalm 62:7-8 A R E Y O U R E A D Y T O M E E T G O D ? A book entitled 1994?, written by Harold Camping, presents Biblical information that we may be very near the end of time. For information on how to obtain a copy or to receive a free program guide and list of radio stations on which you can hear our Gospel programs, please write to Family Radio, Oakland, California, 94621 (The United States of Amer- ica), or call 1-800-543-1495. ---------------------------------------- The foregoing is a copy of the "Does God Love You?" tract printed by, and available free of charge from, Family Radio. A number of minor changes have been made to its layout to facilitate computer printing and distribution. The only change to the text itself is the paragraph which describes the way in which Biblical passages appear within the text. In the original tract they appear in italic lettering; they appear here as indented paragraphs. I have read Mr. Camping's book, compared it with what the Bible actual- ly says, find it to be the most credible research with respect to what the future holds that I have ever come across, and agree with him that there is just too much data to ignore. While none of us is guaranteed one more second of life, and while we, therefore, should take these matters very seriously regardless of when Christ will actually return, it would appear that our natural tendency to postpone caring about our eternal destiny until we feel that our death is imminent is even more senseless now because, in all likelihood, the law of averages with respect to life expectancy no longer applies. If you wish to obtain a copy of this book so that you can check out these facts for yourself, you may find the following information helpful: title: 1994? author: Harold Camping publisher: Vantage Press distributor: Baker and Taylor ISBN: 0-533-10368-1 I have chosen to share this tract with you because I whole-heartedly agree with everything it declares and feel that now, perhaps more than ever before, this information must be made known. To paraphrase Acts 20:27, it does not shun to declare unto us all the counsel of God. I am always willing to discuss the eternal truths of the Bible with anyone who is interested as I believe them to be the only issues of any real importance since we will spend, comparatively speaking, so little time on this side of the grave and so much on the other. Feel free to get in touch with me at any time: e-mail: davem@bnr.ca office: 1-613-765-4671 home: 1-613-726-0014 Dave Mielke 856 Grenon Avenue Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K2B 6G3
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From: gowen@jade.tufts.edu (G. Lee Owen) Subject: Re: WANTED: Info on Dedicated X Server Kernel for Sun3/100 Series In-Reply-To: mbell@techbook.techbook.com's message of 20 Apr 1993 22:57:39 -0700 Lines: 30 Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA Distribution: na > If anyone has any information about the existence or location of a > dedicated X server kernel for the Sun3, please send email. I am > trying to put some neglected Sun3s to good use but they don't have > enough memory for SunOS 4.1.1. Thanks in advance for any help. There is a free program called 'xkernel' which does just that. It is by Seth Robertson (seth@ctr.columbia.edu). It takes a sun 3 and boots a limited kernel which allows you to run X. We converted 4 machines over this semester and the speedup is enormously appreciable -- I find them faster than an NCD 15inch black&white XTerminal that we are playing with, and a bigger screen to boot! As a matter of fact, the department just bought some old sun3s at an auction to convert! } Xkernel is available for anonymous ftp from ftp.ctr.columbia.edu } [128.59.64.40] in /Xkernel/Xkernel.shar (/Xkernel is a symlink to the } latest version of Xkernel) Note that the compiled version which is available is for the sun 3/50, but compiling to work for a sun 3/1xx should be quite easy. I am not connected with xkernel except as a satisfied installer and user 8). I may be able to answer questions; feel free to email me. Greg Owen { gowen@forte.cs.tufts.edu, gowen@jade.tufts.edu } Systems Programmer and TA, Tufts University Computer Science Dept. 230- All transfers are disclaimed by my host name and boss's address. 230- If you don't like this policy, disconnect now!
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Subject: Price quote wanted From: sam.halperin@cccbbs.UUCP (Sam Halperin) Reply-To: sam.halperin@cccbbs.UUCP (Sam Halperin) Distribution: world Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-1055 Lines: 46 From: sam.halperin@cccbbs.uceng 486 DX 50 mHz in Zero Insertion Force Socket Empty over-drive socket EISA motherboard with 256k cache -->2 32 bit EISA Slots -->2 32 bit VESA local bus slots -->4 16 bit ISA slots 8 MB 70ns RAM -->8 SIMMS sockets filled with 1mb strips (0 sockets open) 32 bit EISA IDE hard drive controller 330 Meg IDE hard disk drive w/ 64k cache (12ms) Diamond Viper Weitek 9000 VESA local bus graphics card w/ 2mb 15" MAG MX15F monitor 2 Serial(NS16550AFN UART), 1 parralell & 1 game ports Full tower case -->250 Watt power supply -->5 X 5.25" bays -->2 X 3.5" bays -->2 X Hard Drive bays 1.2MB 5.25" & 1.33MB 3.5" Floppy Drives Enhanced 101 key keyboard Hi-Resolution 400 DPI Serial Mouse MS DOS 5.0 and MS Windows 3.1 or newer AMI BIOS Joint Data Motherboard 30 Day Money Back Gaurantee Unconditional 2 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime Labor Warranty One year Nationwide on site service This system is currently availble from Comtrade, the company that won some of the highest (over dell, gateway and IBM) awards in recent PC magazine reviews. Your price must be highly competitive, without sacrificing any of the quality standards listed above. PLEASE RESPOND TO sam.halperin@cccbbs.uceng VIA E-MAIL
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From: tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) Subject: Re: THE HAMAS WAY of DEATH Nntp-Posting-Host: orion.oac.uci.edu Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 15 In article <1993Apr17.160731.3178@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> alaa@peewee.unx.dec.com (Alaa Zeineldine) writes: >nstramer@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer) writes: >: >: THE HAMAS WAY of DEATH >: >: (Following is a transcript of a recruitment and training >: videotape made last summer by the Qassam Battalions, the military >> >Alaa Zeineldine While you brought up the separate question of Israel's unjustified policies and practices, I am still unclear about your reaction to the practices and polocies reflected in the article above. Tim
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: Panther's President Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department Lines: 20 In article <0P6a3B1w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> jimg@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Jim Gorycki) writes: > >A little Bio from _Sun-Sentinel_ >Torrey, the architect of four consecutive Stanley Cup champions as >persident and general manager of the New York Islanders. >Throughout his 27 years in the NHL, Bill Torrey's bow ties have become >as much of a signature as Andre Agassi's hair. > >The Panthers will introduce a uniform, insignia, and ticket-price >information in early next month. In the meantime, Huizenga leaves the >day-to-day operation in the hands of Torrey and Bob Clarke, the VP and >GM. > The San Jose Sharks and Ottawa Senators are each on their second GM already...I'd be willing to wager that both the Sharks and Senators will probably see their 3rd GM's and perhaps their 4th, before we see the Panthers second. Gerald
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From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson) Subject: Re: Insurance and lotsa points... Distribution: world Organization: The Modem Palace Reply-To: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.21) Lines: 16 In article <1993Apr19.211340.12407@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com writes: >I am very glad to know that none of you judgemental little shits has Hey Pal! Who're you calling litte? Tony +---------------+------------------------------+-------------------------+ |Tony Kidson | ** PGP 2.2 Key by request ** |Voice +44 81 466 5127 | |Morgan Towers, | The Cat has had to move now |E-Mail(in order) | |Morgan Road, | as I've had to take the top |tony@morgan.demon.co.uk | |Bromley, | off of the machine. |tny@cix.compulink.co.uk | |England BR1 3QE|Honda ST1100 -=<*>=- DoD# 0801|100024.301@compuserve.com| +---------------+------------------------------+-------------------------+
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From: pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering) Subject: Re: Griffin / Office of Exploration: RIP Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana Lines: 43 yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi) writes: >Any comments on the absorbtion of the Office of Exploration into the >Office of Space Sciences and the reassignment of Griffin to the "Chief >Engineer" position? Is this just a meaningless administrative >shuffle, or does this bode ill for SEI? >In my opinion, this seems like a Bad Thing, at least on the surface. >Griffin seemed to be someone who was actually interested in getting >things done, and who was willing to look an innovative approaches to >getting things done faster, better, and cheaper. It's unclear to me >whether he will be able to do this at his new position. >Does anyone know what his new duties will be? First I've heard of it. Offhand: Griffin is no longer an "office" head, so that's bad. On the other hand: Regress seemed to think: we can't fund anything by Griffin, because that would mean (and we have the lies by the old hardliners about the $ 400 billion mars mission to prove it) that we would be buying into a mission to Mars that would cost 400 billion. Therefore there will be no Artemis or 20 million dollar lunar orbiter et cetera... They were killing Griffin's main program simply because some sycophants somewhere had Congress beleivin that to do so would simply be to buy into the same old stuff. Sorta like not giving aid to Yeltsin because he's a communist hardliner. At least now the sort of reforms Griffin was trying to bring forward won't be trapped in their own little easily contained and defunded ghetto. That Griffin is staying in some capacity is very very very good. And if he brings something up, noone can say "why don't you go back to the OSE where you belong" (and where he couldn't even get money for design studies). -- Phil Fraering |"Seems like every day we find out all sorts of stuff. pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|Like how the ancient Mayans had televison." Repo Man
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From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe) Subject: REPOST: Tape Drives (4mm, 8mm) for sale. Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA Lines: 18 Acorn Software, Inc. has 3 tape drives (currently used on a VMS system) for sale. These are all SCSI tape drives and are in working condition. WangDat 1300 4mm $500.00 WangDat 2600 4mm (compression) $650.00 Exabyte 8200 8mm $650.00 Plus shipping and COD. Certified checks only, please. These units are sold as is and without warrantee. Contact me if you're interested. -- Dick Munroe Internet: munroe@dmc.com Doyle Munroe Consultants, Inc. UUCP: ...uunet!thehulk!munroe 267 Cox St. Office: (508) 568-1618 Hudson, Ma. FAX: (508) 562-1133 GET CONNECTED!!! Send mail to info@dmc.com to find out about DMConnection.
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From: stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU () Subject: A Rational Viewpoint ---> was Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage Organization: Santa Cruz Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: orchid.ucsc.edu In article <C5L0v1.JCv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dans@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan S.) writes: > >Don't forget about the culture. Sadly, we don't (as a society) look upon >homosexuality as normal (and as we are all too well aware, there are alot >of people who condemn it). As a result, the gay population is not encouraged >to develop "non-promiscuous" relationships. In fact there are many roadblocks >put in the way of such committed relationships. It is as if the heterosexual >community puts these blocks there so as to perpetuate the claim that gays >are immoral. "My, if we allowed gays to marry, raise children ... we might >just find out they're as moral as we are, can't have that can we?" > >Just some thoughts. Flame away. :) > >Dan This is a very good point. One that I have held for sometime. We do not allow people to develop on the paths that they choose or desire. Even with heterosexuals we tend to leave some hanging in the sense of knowledge and information about sexuality and relationships. It is very difficult for a young person to develop and build a positive view of themself when they are constantly being told implicitly and explicitly that they are wrong and immoral. The concepts about personal relationships are deeply embedded in emotionalism and fear- these fears cover a wide range, but mostly jealousy and lack of trust seem to be cornerstones of modern day American relationships. We also set on top of this the concepts of Madison Avenue attractiveness and standards and put the pressure on to measure up.
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From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) Subject: Re: Americans and Evolution Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany Lines: 67 In article <1pq47tINN8lp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> bobs@thnext.mit.edu (Robert Singleton) writes: (Deletion) > >I will argue that your latter statement, "I believe that no gods exist" >does rest upon faith - that is, if you are making a POSITIVE statement >that "no gods exist" (strong atheism) rather than merely saying I don't >know and therefore don't believe in them and don't NOT believe in then >(weak atheism). Once again, to not believe in God is different than saying >I BELIEVE that God does not exist. I still maintain the position, even >after reading the FAQs, that strong atheism requires faith. > No it in the way it is usually used. In my view, you are saying here that driving a car requires faith that the car drives. For me it is a conclusion, and I have no more faith in it than I have in the premises and the argument used. >But first let me say the following. >We might have a language problem here - in regards to "faith" and >"existence". I, as a Christian, maintain that God does not exist. >To exist means to have being in space and time. God does not HAVE >being - God IS Being. Kierkegaard once said that God does not >exist, He is eternal. With this said, I feel it's rather pointless >to debate the so called "existence" of God - and that is not what >I'm doing here. I believe that God is the source and ground of >being. When you say that "god does not exist", I also accept this >statement - but we obviously mean two different things by it. However, >in what follows I will use the phrase "the existence of God" in it's >'usual sense' - and this is the sense that I think you are using it. >I would like a clarification upon what you mean by "the existence of >God". > No, that's a word game. The term god is used in a different way usually. When you use a different definition it is your thing, but until it is commonly accepted you would have to say the way I define god is ... and that does not exist, it is existence itself, so I say it does not exist. Interestingly, there are those who say that "existence exists" is one of the indubitable statements possible. Further, saying god is existence is either a waste of time, existence is already used and there is no need to replace it by god, or you are implying more with it, in which case your definition and your argument so far are incomplete, making it a fallacy. (Deletion) >One can never prove that God does or does not exist. When you say >that you believe God does not exist, and that this is an opinion >"based upon observation", I will have to ask "what observtions are >you refering to?" There are NO observations - pro or con - that >are valid here in establishing a POSITIVE belief. (Deletion) Where does that follow? Aren't observations based on the assumption that something exists? And wouldn't you say there is a level of definition that the assumption "god is" is meaningful. If not, I would reject that concept anyway. So, where is your evidence for that "god is" is meaningful at some level? Benedikt
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Distribution: world From: Ken_M._Kampman@bmug.org Organization: BMUG, Inc. Subject: Re: IIsi question Lines: 11 The si has a single expansion slot, that can be either PDS or Nubus, but not both together. The card lies parallel to and above the motherboard & HD and requires an adaptor slot to do this. There are Nubus and PDS adaptort cards. Thus, what kind of slots you have depends on what kind of adapter card you have. With the exception of the Radius rocket, all NuBus cards I know of work in the si. PDS slots and thus cards are Mac specific, thus not all PDS cards work in all Macs. **** From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG. The message contained in **** this posting does not in any way reflect BMUG's official views.
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From: bohja@cnsvax.uwec.edu Subject: WITCHES AND WICCAN: your opinion Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire Lines: 19 I am a student at UW-Eau Claire. I am doing a paper an witches and wanted to get your point of view. I will not use you name unless you specifically tell me to do so. Please answer this question: As a Christian, are you offended by witches and Wiccan? Do you feel that tehy are pagan in the evil sense of the word? You time and cooperation is appreciated. Thanks, J. -This survey is being conducted in partial fulfillment of the course requirements for Engl 201, taught by Karen Welch at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire. This course is in compliance with the course certification requirements of the University Institutional Review Board for the PRotection of Human Subjects. [but is it in compliance with any reasonable method for choosing samples??? --clh]
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From: susan@wuee1.wustl.edu (Susan Castleman) Subject: TEst Nntp-Posting-Host: wuee1 Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO Distribution: stl Lines: 1 This is a test. Thanks.
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From: bfinnert@chaph.usc.edu (Brian Finnerty) Subject: Mary's assumption Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 34 A few points about Mary's being taken into heaven at the end of her life on earth: One piece of evidence for Mary's assumption into heaven is the fact that no Christian church ever claimed to be the sight where she was buried. Some Christian churches claimed to be located at the final resting places of Peter, Mark, and other saints, but no one ever claimed to possess the body of Mary, the greatest of the saints. Why? Because everyone knew that she had been taken up into heaven. Although there is no definitive scriptural proof for the assumption of Mary, some passages seem suggestive, like the passage in Revelation that describes a woman giving birth to a Son and later being crowned in the heavens. Of course, the woman in this passage has other interpretations; she can also be taken a symbol for the Church. The assumption of Mary makes sense because of her relationship to Christ. Jesus, perfect God and perfect man, fulfilled the requirements of the law perfectly. Under the law God gave to us, we are to honor our mother and father, and Christ's act of taking his mother into heaven is part of his fulfillment of that law. Also, he took his flesh from her, so it seems appropriate that he decide not to allow her flesh to rot in the grave. One last point: an ex-Catholic attempted to explain Catholic doctrine on the assumption by asserting it is connected to a belief that Mary did not die. This is not a correct summary of what Catholics believe. The dogma of the assumption was carefully phrased to avoid saying whether Mary did or did not die. In fact, the consensus among Catholic theologians seems to be that Mary in fact did die. This would make sense: Christ died, and his Mother, who waited at the foot of the cross, would want to share in his death. Brian Finnerty
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From: ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) Subject: Re: Waco Shootout Highlights Total Irresponsibility of the Nntp-Posting-Host: solomon.technet.sg Organization: TECHNET, Singapore Lines: 20 In article <1993Apr5.213034.10706@gtephx.UUCP> forda@gtephx.UUCP (Andrew Ford @ AGCS, Phoenix, Arizona) writes: >In article <1pdmgaINN95f@kitty.ksu.ksu.edu>, strat@kitty.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis) writes: >> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes: >> >> >> If she *needs* a gun right now, why doesn't she already have one? >> >> >You are the victim of a cut-and-run purse-snatcher. He makes off >> >with your purse, containing your ID, your house keys... and your gun. >> >> So you're saying she can RUN RIGHT INTO A STORE, BUY A GUN, RUN BACK >> OUTSIDE AND SHOOT THE GUY IN THE BACK AS HE RUNS OFF? This doesn't > >No, he's saying she just lost her gun and she wants to buy another >so that as she sits home alone tonight, she's not a sitting duck to >any bastard who wants to break in. In fact, the situation is more grim that that, even. The purse snatcher now has her home address. If the woman lives alone, she is in great personal danger.
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From: s0612596@let.rug.nl (M.M. Zwart) Subject: catholic church poland Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL Lines: 10 Hello, I'm writing a paper on the role of the catholic church in Poland after 1989. Can anyone tell me more about this, or fill me in on recent books/articles( in english, german or french). Most important for me is the role of the church concerning the abortion-law, religious education at schools, birth-control and the relation church-state(government). Thanx, Masja, "M.M.Zwart"<s0612596@let.rug.nl>
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From: sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges) Subject: Re: DOT Tire date codes Reply-To: sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges) Distribution: usa Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD Lines: 12 In rec.motorcycles, cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes: >To the nedod mailing list, and Jack Tavares suggested I check out >how old the tire is as one tactic for getting it replaced. Does >anyone have the file on how to read the date codes handy? It's quite simple; the code is the week and year of manufacture. <================================================> / Rich Sturges (h) 703-536-4443 \ / NSWC - Carderock Division (w) 301-227-1670 \ / "I speak for no one else, and listen to the same." \ <========================================================>
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From: tarl@coyoacan.sw.stratus.com (Tarl Neustaedter) Subject: Re: Organized Lobbying for Cryptography Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering Lines: 17 Distribution: inet NNTP-Posting-Host: coyoacan.sw.stratus.com In article <C5tBpD.Lt@cs.uiuc.edu> kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M Kadie) writes: >[...] >>The EFF has been associated with efforts to prevent the banning of sex >>and pictures newsgroups at various universities. >[...] > >So what? Justices William Brennan, Thurgood Marshall, John Paul >Stevens, and Byron White are associated with [...] It means that the EFF's public stance is complicated with issues irrelevant to the encryption issue per se. There may well be people who care about the encryption issue who don't care to associate themselves with the network erotica issue (or may even disagree with the EFF's position). Ending up with pallets of baggage to drag around is a frequent problem with permanent organizations. EFF is no exception. Tarl
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From: atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Cardinal Ximenez) Subject: Atheists and Hell Organization: National Association for the Disorganized Lines: 26 Hello, I have seen two common threads running through postings by atheists on the newsgroup, and I think that they can be used to explain each other. Unfortunately I don't have direct quotes handy... 1) Atheists believe that when they die, they die forever. 2) A god who would condemn those who fail to believe in him to eternal death is unfair. I don't see what the problem is! To Christians, Hell is, by definition, eternal death--exactly what atheists are expecting when they die. There's no reason Hell has to be especially awful--to most people, eternal death is bad enough. Literal interpreters of the Bible will have a problem with this view, since the Bible talks about the fires of Hell and such. Personally, I don't think that people in Hell will be thrust into flame any more than I expect to Jesus with a double-edged sword issuing from his mouth--I treat both these statements as metaphorical. Alan Terlep "...and the scorpion says, 'it's Oakland University, Rochester, MI in my nature.'" atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu Rushing in where angels fear to tread. --Jody
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From: dale@odetics.com (Dale Pischke) Subject: Re: More Diamond SS 24X Organization: Odetics, Inc., Anaheim, CA Lines: 17 In article <1993Apr20.195853.16179@samba.oit.unc.edu> dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina) writes: >Has anyone experienced a faint shadow at all resolutions using this >card. Is only in Windows. I have replaced card and am waiting on >latest drivers. Also have experienced General Protection Fault Errors >in WSPDPSF.DRV on Winword Tools Option menu and in WINFAX setup. I had the exact same failure with the 24X and Word for Windows. A quick call to Microsoft indicated it was problem with the 24X drivers. You need to call Diamond and get the new drivers, I think version 2.03 fixes the above problem, there may be later versions that I'm unaware of... -- Dale R. Pischke dale@odetics.com or uunet!odetics!dale Senior Software Engineer Odetics, Gyyr Division
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From: kxgst1+@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert) Subject: Re: Emphysema question Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 14 In article <1993Apr15.180621.29465@radford.vak12ed.edu> mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich) writes: :Thanks for all your assistance. I'll see if he can try a :different brand of patches, although he's tried two brands :already. Are there more than two? The brands I can come up with off the top of my head are Nicotrol, Nicoderm and Habitrol. There may be a fourth as well. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh = = General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer!" = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat) Subject: Re: army in space Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA Lines: 10 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net There is the Army Ballistic Missile Defense Organization. They were the precursors to SDIO. and still exist under that umbrella. Army Signal Corp's and DCA defense Comm Agency oops DISA, they just changed names do space work. that's the point of all those defense comm sats. But don't worry, there are lots of jobs that need ditch digging, somehow you'll end up there ;-)
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat) Subject: Plutonium based Nuclear Power plants. Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Todays New York TImes just wrote about a pact being negotiated between us and the Russians to develope High Temperature Gas Cooled Fission Reactors using Re-Cycled Weapons Grade plutonium from Warhead stockpiles. THe fuel will be pelletized in ceramic for safety, and then after depletion will be sufficiently contaminated with by-products to make extraction of the remaining plutonium hazardous enough to deter re-use. Apparently the project will be led by General Atomics of San Diego with funding from the US GOvernment. THe pilot plant will be built and operated by the russians. pat
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From: tsa@cellar.org (The Silent Assassin) Subject: For Sale: Misc IBM stuff Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system Lines: 10 5.25" Internal Low density disk drive. Monochrome monitor 8088 motherboard, built in parallel and serial ports, built in mono and color output, 7Mhz. Libertarian, atheist, semi-anarchal Techno-Rat. I define myself--tsa@cellar.org
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From: declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck) Subject: Re: edu breaths Nntp-Posting-Host: corolla17 Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group Lines: 34 In article <1993Apr15.003749.15710@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes: >In article <1993Apr14.220252.14731@rtsg.mot.com> declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck) writes: >| >|The difference of opinion, and difference in motorcycling between the sport-bike >|riders and the cruiser-bike riders. > >That difference is only in the minds of certain closed-minded individuals. I >have had the very best motorcycling times with riders of "cruiser" >bikes (hi Don, Eddie!), yet I ride anything but. Continuously, on this forum, and on the street, you find quite a difference between the opinions of what motorcycling is to different individuals. Cruiser-bike riders have a different view of motorcycling than those of sport bike riders (what they like and dislike about motorcycling). This is not closed-minded. To NOT RECOGNIZE this, is in effect, close-minded. > >|A lot of it, reminded me of rec.motorcycles and the insipid flame-age thereof.. > >If you so dislike it, my occasionally leather-clad poser pal, why read it? I scan it for information, a lot of it is NOISE and pointless flame-age. (it's why I used trn, instead of rn) If you have a problem with that, I'm really sorry for you.. -- => Dan DeClerck | EMAIL: declrckd@rtsg.mot.com <= => Motorola Cellular APD | <= =>"Friends don't let friends wear neon"| Phone: (708) 632-4596 <= ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: JJMARVIN@pucc.princeton.edu Subject: prayers and advice requested on family problem Organization: Princeton University Lines: 70 My brother has been alienated from my parents and me since shortly after his marriage to a domineering and insecure woman, about twelve years ago. We've kept things on a painfully polite, Christmas-card sort of level for most of this time. Attempts to see each other end disastrously, with his wife throwing a screaming fit and storming out over either our imagined slights to her, or his inattention or insensitivity to her (I mean, this'll happen by the end of a single restaurant meal). He seems, from what I've seen, to live in a state of quivering anxiety, hoping futilely to keep the next storm from breaking. He has sacrificed not only meaningful contact with us but also other friends and outside interests. Now, this is his choice, and I need to accept it even if I deplore it. But it's hard. From time to time I've wanted to drop the pretense that we have a relationship--by cutting off contact--or trying to have a real if painful relationship, by talking honestly with him, but I've always thought, "Why be dramatic? And you know he'll only get evasive and then find some excuse to get off the phone. Just leave the door open, in case he ever decides to come back." It's been an unsatisfying choice, to allow us to go on with the superficial trappings of a relationship, but it was the best I could think of. Now, this weekend, my mother finally decided that she wasn't going to pretend any more and has cut off relations with them. This was the outcome of a phone conversation in which my sister-in-law screamed and raved at my mother, blaming her for everything wrong in their lives, and in which my brother evaded, temporized, claimed the situation was beyond his control, and as always expected my mother to make all the allowances and concessions. Mom said she would not, that she would not quietly take abuse any more, and that if these were the terms of their relationship, she didn't want to talk to or see them any more. And she hung up. (I have never seem my mother lose her temper, and I think that this is the first time she's ever hung up on someone.) Mom says she feels as if she's divorced my brother, and that it's a relief in some ways to have the break out in the open and done with. I have mixed feelings. I'm proud of Mom for sticking up for herself; angry at my brother and sister-in-law for hurting her, for being jerks, for persisting in such a wretched life, which hurts us all and is warping their children; angry at my sister-in-law for being so hateful, and angry at my brother for being a coward and having so little respect for himself or us that he's willing to throw us aside and use up all his energy trying to appease an unappeasable, emotionally disturbed woman; pained for their children, who are a mess; scared for the future, since this marks the time when either things will change and improve or the break will become irrevocable; nastily self- righteous over this bit of proof that they can't "get away" with treating us or each other this way, and then disgusted with myself for even beginning to gloat over others' misery; and finally, mostly, sad, sad, sad, to see my parents hurt and my brother and sister-in-law trapped in a horrible, destructive situation that they can't see a way out of--or they can't bear to take whatever paths they do see. And I'm frustrated because I don't know what if anything to do, and doing nothing drives me up the wall. I try to pray, about my own feelings of rage, impotence, and vindictiveness, and about their situation, but I am not free of the desire to *DO* something concrete. (The desire to *DO* something, to define a problem and fix it, is one of my besetting vices; I'm having a terrible time quieting down my internal mental chatter enough to listen for God.) Do you thoughtful and kind people on the net have advice for me? Is this a time to reach out to my brother? To let things be? How can I conquer my rage AT him enough to be there FOR him? Here's the big question I've been evading throughout this long, long post: Is it ok, as a Christian and a proponent of faith, hope, and charity, to accept the destruction of a relationship? To give up on my own brother, or at least to accept that I am powerless to help him and can only wait and see what happens? Do please answer--by e-mail or post. Thank you. Julie (jjmarvin@pucc.princeton.edu)
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From: cunning@mksol.dseg.ti.com (patrick w cunningham) Subject: LEADING TECH QUESTION Nntp-Posting-Host: localhost Organization: Texas Instruments Lines: 10 Hey, does anybody know anything about Leading Technology Computers?? I have a Leading Technology 6000SX and need a new mother board for it. Does anybody know where I can get one. (Leading Technoology is really made by SAMSUNG. 6000SX is Samsung model SD-700)
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From: Dan Wallach <dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu> Subject: FAQ: Typing Injuries (4/4): Software Monitoring Tools [monthly posting] Supersedes: <typing-injury-faq/software_732179032@cs.berkeley.edu> Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 333 Expires: 22 May 1993 01:24:03 GMT Reply-To: Richard Donkin <richardd@hoskyns.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu Summary: software tools to help out injured typists Originator: dwallach@elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu Archive-name: typing-injury-faq/software Version: 1.8, 7th December 1992 This FAQ is actually maintained by Richard Donkin <richardd@hoskyns.co.uk>. I post it, along with the other FAQ stuff. If you have questions, you want to send mail to Richard, not me. -- Dan Software Tools to help with RSI ------------------------------- This file describes tools, primarily software, to help prevent or manage RSI. This version now includes information on such diverse tools as calendar programs and digital watches... Please let me know if you know any other tools, or if you have information or opinions on these ones, and I will update this FAQ. I am especially interested in getting reviews of these products from people who have evaluated them or are using them. Richard Donkin Internet mail: richardd@hoskyns.co.uk Tel: +44 71 814 5708 (direct) Fax: +44 71 251 2853 Changes in this version: Added information on StressFree, another typing management tool for Windows. TYPING MANAGEMENT TOOLS: these aim to help you manage your keyboard use, by warning you to take a break every so often. The better ones also include advice on exercises, posture and workstation setup. Some use sound hardware to warn of a break, others use beeps or screen messages. Often, RSI appears only after many years of typing, and the pain has a delayed action in the short term too: frequently you can be typing all day with little problem and the pain gets worse in the evening. These tools act as an early warning system: by listening to their warnings and taking breaks with exercises, you don't have to wait for your body to give you a more serious and painful warning - that is, getting RSI. Tool: At Your Service (commercial software) Available from: Bright Star Tel: +1 (206) 451 3697 Platforms: Mac (System 6.0.4), Windows Description: Provides calendar, keyboard watch, email watch, and system info. Warns when to take a break (configurable). Has a few recommendations on posture, and exercises. Sound-oriented, will probably work best with sound card (PC) or with microphone (Mac). Should be possible to record your own messages to warn of break. Tool: AudioPort (sound card and software) Available from: Media Vision Tel: +1 (510) 226 2563 Platforms: PC Description: A sound card to plug into your PC parallel port. Includes 'At Your Service'. Tool: Computer Health Break (commercial software) Available from: Escape Ergonomics, Inc 1111 W. El Camino Real Suite 109 Mailstop 403 Sunnyvale, CA Tel: +1 (408) 730 8410 Platforms: DOS Description: Aimed at preventing RSI, this program warns you to take breaks after a configurable interval, based on clock time, or after a set number of keystrokes -- whichever is earlier. It gives you 3 exercises to do each time, randomly selected from a set of 70. Exercises are apparently tuned to the type of work you do - data entry, word processing, information processing. Exercises are illustrated and include quite a lot of text on how to do the exercise and on what exactly the exercise does. CHB includes hypertext information on RSI that you can use to learn more about RSI and how to prevent it. Other information on non-RSI topics can be plugged into this hypertext viewer. A full glossary of medical terms and jargon is included. CHB can be run in a DOS box under Windows, but does not then warn you when to take a break; it does not therefore appear useful when used with Windows. Cost: $79.95; quantity discounts, site licenses. Comments: The keystroke-counting approach looks good: it seems better to measure the activity that is causing you problems than to measure clock time or even typing time. The marketing stuff is very good and includes some summaries of research papers, as well as lots of arguments you can use to get your company to pay up for RSI management tools. Tool: EyerCise (commercial software) Available from: RAN Enterprises One Woodland Park Dr. Haverhill, MA 01830, US Tel: 800-451-4487 (US only) Platforms: Windows (3.0/3.1), OS/2 PM (1.3/2.0) [Not DOS] Description: Aimed at preventing RSI and eye strain, this program warns you to take breaks after a configurable interval (or at fixed times). Optionally displays descriptions and pictures of exercises - pictures are animated and program beeps you to help you do exercises at the correct rate. Includes 19 stretches and 4 visual training exercises, can configure which are included and how many repetitions you do - breaks last from 3 to 7 minutes. Also includes online help on workplace ergonomics. Quote from their literature: "EyerCise is a Windows program that breaks up your day with periodic sets of stretches and visual training exercises. The stretches work all parts of your body, relieving tension and helping to prevent Repetitive Strain Injury. The visual training exercises will improve your peripheral vision and help to relieve eye strain. Together these help you to become more relaxed and productive." "The package includes the book _Computers & Visual Stress_ by Edward C. Godnig, O.D. and John S. Hacunda, which describes the ergonomic setup for a computer workstation and provides procedures and exercises to promote healthy and efficient computer use. Cost: $69.95 including shipping and handling, quantity discounts for resellers. Free demo ($5 outside US). Comments: I have a copy of this, and it works as advertised: I would say it is better for RSI prevention than RSI management, because it does not allow breaks at periods less than 30 minutes. Also, it interrupts you based on clock time rather than typing time, which is not so helpful unless you use the keyboard all day. Worked OK on Windows 3.0 though it did occasionally crash with a UAE - not sure why. Also refused to work with the space bar on one PC, and has one window without window controls. Very usable though, and does not require any sound hardware. Tool: Lifeguard (commercial software) Available from: Visionary Software P.O. Box 69447 Portland, OR 97201, US Tel: +1 (503) 246-6200 Platforms: Mac, DOS (Windows version underway) Description: Aimed at preventing RSI. Warns you to take a break with dialog box and sound. Includes a list of exercises to do during breaks, and information on configuring your workstation in an ergonomic manner. Price: $59; quantity discounts and site licenses. The DOS product is bought in from another company, apparently; not sure how equivalent this is to the Mac version. The Mac version got a good review in Desktop Publisher Magazine (Feb 1991). Good marketing stuff with useful 2-page summaries of RSI problems and solutions, with references. Tool: StressFree (commercial software, free usable demo) Available from: LifeTime Software P.O. Box 87522 Houston Texas 77287-7522, US Tel: 800-947-2178 (US only) Fax: +1 (713) 474-2067 Mail: 70412.727@compuserve.com Demo (working program but reduced functions) available from: Compuserve: Windows Advanced Forum, New Uploads section, or Health and Fitness Forum, Issues At Work section. Anon FTP: ftp.cica.indiana.edu (and mirroring sites) Platforms: Windows (3.0/3.1) (Mac and DOS versions underway) Description: Aimed at preventing RSI, this program warns you to take breaks after a configurable interval (or at fixed times). Displays descriptions and pictures of exercises - pictures are animated and program paces you to help you do exercises at the correct rate. Quite a few exercises, can configure which ones are included to some extent. Online help. Version 2.0 is out soon, Mac and DOS versions will be based on this. Cost: $29.95 if support via CompuServe or Internet, otherwise $39.95. Site license for 3 or more copies is $20.00 each. (NOTE: prices may have gone up for V2.0). Comments: I have had a play with this, and it works OK. Its user interface design is much better in 2.0, though still a bit unusual. expensive tool around and it does the job. It is also the only tool with a redistributable demo, so if you do get the demo, post it on your local bulletin boards, FTP servers and Bitnet servers! Does not include general info on RSI and ergonomics, but it does have the ability to step backward in the exercise sequence, which is good for repeating the most helpful exercises. Tool: Typewatch (freeware), version 3.8 (October 1992) Available from: Email to richardd@hoskyns.co.uk Anonymous ftp: soda.berkeley.edu:pub/typing-injury/typewatch.shar Platforms: UNIX (tested on SCO, SunOS, Mach; character and X Window mode) Description: This is a shell script that runs in the background and warns you to stop typing, based on how long you have been continuously typing. It does not provide exercises, but it does check that you really do take a break, and tells you when you can start typing again. Typewatch now tells you how many minutes you have been typing today, each time it warns you, which is useful so you know how much you *really* type. It also logs information to a file that you can analyse or simply print out. The warning message appears on your screen (in character mode), in a pop-up window (for X Windows), or as a Zephyr message (for those with Athena stuff). Tim Freeman <tsf@cs.cmu.edu> has put in a lot of bug fixes, extra features and support for X, Zephyr and Mach. Not formally supported, but email richardd@hoskyns.co.uk (for SCO, SunOS, character mode) or tsf@cs.cmu.edu (for Mach, X Window mode, Zephyr) if you have problems or want to give feedback. Tool: Various calendar / batch queue programs Available from: Various sources Platforms: Various Description: Any calendar/reminder program that warns you of an upcoming appointment can be turned into an ad hoc RSI management tool. Or, any batch queue submission program that lets you submit a program to run at a specific time to display a message to the screen. Using Windows as an example: create a Calendar file, and include this filename in your WIN.INI's 'load=' line so you get it on every startup of Windows. Suppose you want to have breaks every 30 minutes, starting from 9 am. Press F7 (Special Time...) to enter an appointment, enter 9:30, hit Enter, and type some text in saying what the break is for. Then press F5 to set an alarm on this entry, and repeat for the next appointment. By using Windows Recorder, you can record the keystrokes that set up breaks throughout a day in a .REC file. Put this file on your 'run=' line, as above, and you will then, with a single keypress, be able to set up your daily appointments with RSI exercises. The above method should be adaptable to most calendar programs. An example using batch jobs would be to submit a simple job that runs at 9:30 am and warns you to take a break; this will depend a lot on your operating system. While these approaches are not ideal, they are a good way of forcing yourself to take a break if you can't get hold of a suitable RSI management tool. If you are techie enough you might want to write a version of Typewatch (see above) for your operating system, using batch jobs or whatever fits best. Tool: Digital watches with count-down timers Available from: Various sources, e.g. Casio BP-100. Description: Many digital watches have timers that count down from a settable number of minutes; they usually reset easily to that number, either manually or automatically. While these are a very basic tool, they are very useful if you are writing, reading, driving, or doing anything away from a computer which can still cause or aggravate RSI. The great advantage is that they remind you to break from whatever you are doing. Comments: My own experience was that cutting down a lot on my typing led to my writing a lot more, and still reading as much as ever, which actually aggravated the RSI in my right arm though the left arm improved. Getting a count-down timer watch has been very useful on some occasions where I write a lot in a day. I have tried an old fashioned hour-glass type egg timer, but these are not much good because they do not give an audible warning of the end of the time period! KEYBOARD REMAPPING TOOLS: these enable you to change your keyboard mapping so you can type one-handedly or with a different two-handed layout. One-handed typing tools may help, but be VERY careful about how you use them -- if you keep the same overall typing workload you are simply doubling your hand use for the hand that you use for typing, and may therefore make matters worse. Tool: hsh (public domain) Available from: Anonymous ftp: soda.berkeley.edu:pub/typing-injury/hsh.shar Platforms: UNIX (don't know which ones) Description: Allows one-handed typing and other general keyboard remappings. Only works through tty's (so, you can use it with a terminal or an xterm, but not most X programs). Tool: Dvorak keyboard tools (various) Available from: Anonymous ftp: soda.berkeley.edu:pub/typing-injury/xdvorak.c Also built into Windows 3.x. Description: The Dvorak keyboard apparently uses a more rational layout that involves more balanced hand use. It *may* help prevent RSI a bit, but you can also use it if you have RSI, since it will slow down your typing a *lot* :-) -- Dan Wallach "One of the most attractive features of a Connection dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu Machine is the array of blinking lights on the faces Office#: 510-642-9585 of its cabinet." -- CM Paris Ref. Manual, v6.0, p48.
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From: m.t.palmer@larc.nasa.gov (Michael T. Palmer) Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more. Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA Lines: 52 Distribution: inet NNTP-Posting-Host: oldtown.larc.nasa.gov In article <1993Apr21.150815.6657@chpc.org> rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie) writes: >In article <C5so84.Hxv@demon.co.uk> Graham Toal <gtoal@gtoal.com> writes: >>In article <2073@rwing.UUCP> pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes: >>:If the Clinton Clipper is so very good, why not make its algrithm public >>:so many people can exchange ideas and examine it, rather than a few >>:isolated 'respected experts' (respected by whom? for what? Perhaps a > >One more time... > > If they released the algorithm, it would be possible for someone > to come up with an implementation which was identical, but > lacking an escrowed key. > > Note that the press announcement mentioned that the algorithm was > being kept secret for security of the key escrow system. In this > case security means "an escrowed key for EVERY clipper chip". > > > Assuming you believed all that is said about the effective of > the algorithm, and the escrow system, which would you buy : > > (a) Chip from firm A with the escrowed key > (b) Second source chip from reputable firm B with no key > in government escrow. > > There would obviously be powerful economic incentives for a second > source, non escrowed, vendor. But what about second sources for pin-compatible non-Clipper algorithm chips that also have escrowed keys? If a "reputable firm" produces a chip (with escrowed key) that is a pop-in replacement for the Clipper chip in my phone, and uses an algorithm that is widely known and evaluated and "trusted," then what's the problem? The Clipper is going to be reverse engineered anyway by any organization with sufficient resources (can you say "billions of cocaine dollars?") so those drug dealers they're so worried about will be slipping through the cracks. We law-abiding (non-incredibly-wealthy) citizens, naturally, will not have this recourse. But claiming that the algorithm can't be released to prevent people from using non-key-escrowed chips is plain deceitful... analysis of the chip output will provide information on the necessary headers and whatnot, so the "bad guys" could build chips using a *different* algorithm and still not escrow their keys. Or, they could just buy bunches of cheap phones at K-mart every week, and play Swap-the-Clipper-Chip with their cellular phone every day. Michael T. Palmer | "A man is crazy who writes a secret in any m.t.palmer@larc.nasa.gov | other way than one which will conceal it RIPEM key on server | from the vulgar." - Roger Bacon, 1220-1292
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From: rick@sundance.SJSU.EDU (Richard Warner) Subject: Re: ATM or Truetype-which to choose? (TT for True-Effects for windows) Organization: San Jose State University - Math/CS Dept. Lines: 41 games@max.u.washington.edu writes: >In article <1993Apr3.174759.15377@seas.gwu.edu>, lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai) writes: >> In article <1ov6rj$gev@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> csd25@keele.ac.uk (C.M. Yearsley) writes: >>>I've just bought a PC which came with a bundle of Lotus stuff, including >>>Adobe Type Manager version 1.15. As a newcomer to Windows, I'm >>>confused about which I should be using, ATM or Truetype. >>> >> ... >There is a program called true-effects for windows, that allows you to define >attributes for true-type fonts, and have them look like new fonts. It will >give your font different backgrounds, or shadows, or reverse, etc... >It ONLY works with TT fonts. Yes, and the idea was ripped off from Adobe, which has had a program called TypeAlign for a few years now. TypeAlign does the same thing for Adobe Type 1 fonts; *and* Adobe has said that the next version will work with both Adobe Type 1 and TrueType. And TypeAlign does some things that TrueEffects does not - including some things you apparently want ... >If you want to use it, you best not want to use it with an ATM type font. >(Oh, yeah... lest you think this is a really cool program, none of the >effects are scalable (like the brick background pattern is the same size >whether your font is 10 point of 100 point.), and it is not extensible, >I.E. you CAN NOT add pattern of your own. >And you can't rorate the background pattern... >And you can't make the pattern extend beyond one character > (Every character in that new font has the entire pattern in it, > As opposed to having the SAME pattern run contiguously through > a couple of characters) >It is however cheap. >Maybe I will buy a copy when the next version comes out, if they fix some of >these gripes... > John.
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From: starowl@rahul.net (Michael D. Adams) Subject: Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage Nntp-Posting-Host: bolero Reply-To: starowl@rahul.net Organization: D Service Actuarial Consulting X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 14 On Sat, 17 Apr 1993 20:42:58 GMT, Greg Hennessy observed: : In article <philC5n6D5.MK3@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes: : #Tells you something about the fascist politics being practiced .... : Ah, ending discrimination is now fascism. Is that what they called it when Truman forced integration of the armed forces, despite the opposition of Congress and most of the American public at that time? -- Michael D. Adams (starowl@a2i.rahul.net) Enterprise, Alabama "Tilting at windmills hurts you more than the windmills." -- Lazarus Long
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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) Subject: A Scoop of Waco Road, Please Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Lines: 13 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com Keywords: topical, smirk Your "lite" posting for the day, from rec.humor.funny: In article <S539.2adf@looking.on.ca>, bellas@tti.com (Pete Bellas) writes: > > There is a new Ice Cream Flavor inspired by the incident at Waco. > > It's called Mount Caramel, it's full of nuts but you can't get it out > of the carton. -- cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company, OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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From: thatchh@hplsla.hp.com (Thatch Harvey) Subject: Re: Mercury Capri Restrictions Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA Lines: 24 The restriction could have to do with the car being a convertible. A lot of paronoid laws were passed concerning convertibles in the 80's. These states may require greater rollover protection than the Capri affords. Thatch Harvey %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Thatch Harvey % % uucp: (no longer valid) domain: thatchh@hplsla.hp.com % % Hewlett-Packard Lake Stevens Instrument Division % % Lake Stevens, WA % % (206) 335-2083 Merkur XR4Ti, Suzuki GSX1100G, % % Prince SR3 D Sports Racer % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) Subject: Safe driving prcatices... Expires: 30 Apr 93 05:00:00 GMT Organization: Computervision Lines: 34 In article <1993Apr9.133114.2605@news.columbia.edu> rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Robert D Castro) writes: >In article <rbpC54D51.26n@netcom.com> rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker) writes: >>cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes: > >> >>my solution is *never* to ride next to a car > >The only thing between you and "them" is space. >Keep as much as possible. Take this one step further ... Never dilly-dally in that rear 1/4 of either side of a cage - when you pass make it as POSITIVE as possible and if you can't pass fully, at least make sure that if you attempt it you can make the driver aware of you by at least getting into his area of vision. This also applies to merging into another lane after making a pass - do it as POSITIVELY as possible ... and what I "try" to do is look in the rear view and then over my shoulder. And after I've done that ACCELERATE into the lane so that you have a speed cushion should you have missed seeing a potential BDI that's trying to do the same thing as you ... or worse (ie: he may have been behind you, saw you made the pass successfully but YOU aren't GOING FAST ENOUGH to suite him so he tries to go around you on the right). Ride with four eyes... Rich Rich Bemben - DoD #0044 rbemben@timewarp.prime.com 1977 750 Triumph Bonneville (617) 275-1800 x 4173 "Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil, but heaven protect us from the evil men do in the name of good"
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From: Ravi Konchigeri <mongoose@leland.stanford.edu> Subject: Re: LCIII problems X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7F36401930100ED@kimball-pc-316.stanford.edu> X-Xxdate: Thu, 15 Apr 93 03:12:01 GMT Organization: Stanford University X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17 Lines: 18 Finally got my computer fixed and I'd like to sum up. About hard drive companies: the original 160 meg drive that was bad (bad sector or something) was an IBM. The new one is a Quantum. Is the LCIII supposed to be shipped with IBMs? Is there a quality difference? Apparently! :) Second, about hard drive position. I've put the LCIII on its side and the new 160 HD has had no problems at all. I've even switched back and forth between horizontal and vertical and there are no problems. As far as I'm concerned I don't believe HD position is important for drives up to 160 meg, in any computer. Don't know about CD-ROM, though. "Just like everything else in life, the right lane ends in half a mile." Ravi Konchigeri. mongoose@leland.stanford.edu
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From: smith@pell.anu.edu.au (Michael Smith) Subject: Re: Desktop rebuild and Datadesk keyboard? Organization: Australian National University Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.22.65 In-reply-to: mirsky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu's message of 15 Apr 1993 19:35:58 -0400 My Datadesk Mac 101E keyboard has similar problems. I have found that holding down the RIGHT-HAND shift key at startup will work (disable extensions), but the left-hand shift key won't (which is unfortunate, since the left one is the one I instinctively reach for). Similarly, I have trained myself to hold down the RIGHT-HAND pair of command-option for desktop rebuilds. I *is* irritating. Cheers, Michael. -- ----------------------------/|-|--|-|--|------Michael-Smith------------------- smith@pell.anu.edu.au /_| |\ | | | Mathematics Research Section --------------------------/--|-|-\|-|_/|------Australian-National-University--
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From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) Subject: Cache card for IIsi Nntp-Posting-Host: gram3 Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5 Lines: 20 I'm looking for a Cache card for my IIsi. I can spend $250 Max for it, what i need is 64 kb cache with a fpu socket and a dual slot adapter. Or at least a passe_through connector so i can keep my graphic card. I need your advice about the best card i can buy. How much performance increase i should expect, does the performance increase between the 32 and 64 kb Cache worths the price difference ?. And what's the best price i can get for such a card (i really need to spare each possible $). I have an Ethernet card for the LC with fpu. I don't think it would work for the IIsi but the fpu is socketed. Do you think i can take the fpu out of the card and put it in the empty fpu socket ?. Would it work at 20 Mhz ?. If not, how much should i pay for an extra fpu ?. -- Sham(u) ya tha (s)seif(u) lam yaghib(i) | Ibaa Oueichek. oueichek@imag.imag.fr Ya jamal(al) majd(i) fi(l) kutub(i) |Lab de Genie Informatique (LGI). Kablak(i) (t)tareekh(u) fi thulmaten |IMAG, INPG. Baadak(i) staula ala (sh)shuhub(i) |46, Av. Felix Viallet, Grenoble.
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From: donb@netcom.com (Don Baldwin) Subject: Re: Ax the ATF Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 14 In article <1r1173INNajc@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM writes: >Even if it were a capital offense, the warrant was not even an arrest warrant, >but a search warrant. In other words, there was no evidence of illegal >arms, just enough of a suggestion to get a judge to sign a license to >search for illegal evidence. It's hard to know what/who to believe. However, the letter I received from the BATF, in response to one I sent to Bentsen, said that there was a search warrant AND an arrest warrant. don
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From: paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen) Subject: Dick Estelle Nntp-Posting-Host: koufax.cv.hp.com Organization: Our Lady Of The Stand-Up Triple Lines: 13 Does anyone know if the Dick Estelle who does the Radio Reader on NPR is one in the same with the lefty who pitched briefly for the Jints in '64 & '65? Just curious. --->Paul, spending too much time reading the baseball encyclopedia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We will stretch no farm animal beyond its natural length paula@koufax.cv.hp.com Paul Andresen Hewlett-Packard (503)-750-3511 home: 3006 NW McKinley Corvallis, OR 97330 (503)-752-8424 A SABR member since 1979
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From: issa@cwis.unomaha.edu (Issa El-Hazin) Subject: Re: 300ZX or SC300??? Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha Lines: 20 ip02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Danny Phornprapha) writes: >Hi everyone, >I'm getting a car in the near future. I've narrow it down to 300ZX and SC300. >Which might be a better choice? >Thanks for your opnion, >Danny >-- I've been asking myself this same question for the past year, so, if/when you find out, would you please share the magistic answer with me.. The way I see it right now, work twice as hard so you can have both. cheers :) Issa
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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) Subject: Re: pushing the envelope Organization: Texas Instruments Inc Distribution: na Lines: 35 In <1993Apr3.233154.7045@Princeton.EDU> lije@cognito.Princeton.EDU (Elijah Millgram) writes: >A friend of mine and I were wondering where the expression "pushing >the envelope" comes from. Anyone out there know? Every aircraft has flight constraints for speed/AOA/power. When graphed, these define the 'flight envelope' of that aircraft, presumably so named because the graphed line encloses (envelopes) the area on the graph that represents conditions where the aircraft doesn't fall out of the sky. Hence, 'pushing the envelope' becomes 'operating at (or beyond) the edge of the flight (or operational) envelope'. Note that the envelope isn't precisely known until someone actually flies the airplane in those regions -- up to that point, all there are are the theoretical predictions. Hence, one of the things test pilots do for a living is 'push the envelope' to find out how close the correspondence between the paper airplane and the metal one is -- in essence, 'pushing back' the edges of the theoretical envelope to where the airplane actually starts to fail to fly. Note, too, that this is done is a quite calculated and careful way; flight tests are generally carefully coreographed and just what is going to be 'pushed' and how far is precisely planned (despite occasional deviations from plans, such as the 'early' first flight of the F-16 during its high-speed taxi tests). I'm sure Mary can tell you everything you ever wanted to know about this process (and then some). -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.