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5400 | From: rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert G. Carpenter)
Subject: Thinking About Buying Intrepid - Good or Bad Idea?
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Lines: 7
I'm thinking of buying a new Dodge Intrepid - Has anyone had any
experiences that they'd like to share?
Thanks.
BobC
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5401 | From: alex@talus.msk.su (Alex Kolesov)
Subject: Help on RenderMan language wanted!
Reply-To: alex@talus.msk.su
Organization: unknown
Lines: 17
Hello everybody !
If you are using PIXAR'S RenderMan 3D scene description language for creating 3D worlds, please, help me.
I'm using RenderMan library on my NeXT but there is no documentation about NeXTSTEP version of RenderMan available. I can create very complicated scenes and render them using surface shaders,
but I can not bring them to life by applying shadows and reflections.
As far as I understand I have to define environmental and shadows maps to produce reflections and shadows, but I do not know how to use them.
Any advises or simple RIB or C examples will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance...
---
Alex Kolesov Moscow, Russia.
Talus Imaging & Communications Corporation
e-mail: <alex@talus.msk.su> (NeXT mail accepted)
.
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5402 | From: sjha+@cs.cmu.edu (Somesh Jha)
Subject: What is "intersection syndrome" near the forearm/wrist?
Nntp-Posting-Host: gs73.sp.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Lines: 17
Hi:
I went to the orthopedist on Tuesday. He diagnosed me as having
"intersection syndrome". He prescribed Feldene for me. I want
to know more about the disease and the drug.
Thanks
Somesh
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5403 | From: leec@cb-iris.Stanford.EDU (Christopher Lee)
Subject: HELP! Setting Colormaps on multi-top-level APP
Keywords: GLX mixed-model,colormap
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Lines: 71
Dear SGI and netter GL-X Mixed-Model experts,
I am writing a mixed model application that creates a couple different
color maps for different windows, and I've been having trouble getting
the window manager to reliably honor my requests. In some environments
(entry level R3000 Indigo w/ 4.0.5) all windows are getting properly
connected to their designated color maps, but on others (an IRIS 4D 240/GTX;
also a different entry level Indigo) the color mapping is unreliable
and changes behavior when I compile at different times. The most common
problem is that all non-top-level windows fail to be displayed according
to their colormap. My application starts out by creating three top-level
windows; in some cases all but the first of these also fail to be
displayed by their colormap. This is spectacularly aggravating.
I would dearly appreciate
1. an explanation of the standard, RIGHT, CORRECT way to give a window
a colormap such that the Window Manager will Honor and Obey it;
2. any advice about problems that could cause my failure to get my
desired colormaps.
By now I have exhausted my own attempts on this, having tried everything
reasonable or imaginable.
Below is example code giving the schematic for how I have been *TRYING*
to do this. Please, please, please SOMEBODY tell me what I am doing
wrong/how to do it right!!!
Yours,
Chris Lee
/***********************************************************************/
Display* dpy; /* DECLARE SOME DATA... */
Colormap popup_cmap;
XColor mycolor;
Window win;
XSetWindowAttributes cwa;
int nwlist;
Window *wlist;
/* NB: FOR BREVITY, NOT SHOWING ALL CODE LINES--JUST A SCHEMATIC */
popup_cmap=XCreateColormap(dpy,DefaultRootWindow(dpy),vis->visual,AllocAll);
/* HERE WE STORE A BUNCH OF COLORS USING
XStoreColor(dpy,popup_cmap,&mycolor); ... */
cwa.colormap = popup_cmap;
win = XCreateWindow(dpy, parent, x, y, w, h,
borderWidth, vis->depth, InputOutput, vis->visual,
CWColormap|CWBorderPixel, &cwa);
/* LIST ALL SUB WINDOWS OF my_topwin, PARENT OF win, INTO wlist;
nwlist IS COUNTER OF ENTRIES IN wlist.
NB: wlist is static storage that can be relied on not to go away
or be corrupted. I thought of that! Does anyone know if
setting WM properties is by data copy, or by reference pointer?
ie. is it acceptable to pass data for a Property, then free
the data? */
XSetWMColormapWindows(dpy,my_topwin,wlist,nwlist);
XMapRaised(Display0,win);
/* LATER ON WE HANDLE XEvents NORMALLY... TYPICAL EVENTLOOP */
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5404 | From: guyd@austin.ibm.com (Guy Dawson)
Subject: Re: Why VESA Local-Bus ????
Originator: guyd@pal500.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin
Lines: 48
In article <1993Apr15.133138.17369@cc.umontreal.ca>, gregof@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Grego Filippo) writes:
> Hi fellow netters,
>
> I have a question for you... I am gonna buy a 486DX2-66 MHz
> with VESA Local-Bus. IS the speed benefit that great ?
> Would it be wise to spend on a local-bus system (HD controller
> and graphic card) for normal use ( I mean I won't use it for a
> server !!) ?
>
> Also, I read an article from someone ( sorry, I can't remember your
> name ) and he said that even though you have a local-bus hard-disk
> controller, your performances won't be that much greater because
> of the disk's throughtput !!!
> So what is the use of having a fast bus if the peripherals can't
> cope with it ???
Something to bear in mind is what the V in VLB stands for!
V for Video - the origional intention of the bus was to speed up
the bus so that large memory to memory transfers would be faster.
This is espically useful in transfering data from main memory to
video memory.
Since there are usually 3 VLB slots card makers have been making
cards to fit in the other two.
How about an VLB ethernet card? Move the data into the card at
130 odd MB/s and then wait for it to tickle onto the net at
just over 1Mb/s.
[ Do do however free the local bus for other cards ]
Some times you need fast busses and sometimes you don't!
>
> Thank you ...
>
> gregof@jsp.umontreal.ca
>
>
Guy
--
-- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Guy Dawson - Hoskyns Group Plc.
guyd@hoskyns.co.uk Tel Hoskyns UK - 71 251 2128
guyd@austin.ibm.com Tel IBM Austin USA - 512 838 3377
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5405 | From: schmidt@PrakInf.TH-Ilmenau.DE (Schmidt)
Subject: irit to pov ?
Keywords: raytracer, format conversion
Reply-To: schmidt@PrakInf.TH-Ilmenau.DE (Schmidt)
Organization: Technische Hochschule Ilmenau
Lines: 8
Nntp-Posting-Host: merkur.prakinf.tu-ilmenau.de
Has anybody made a converter from irit's .irt or .dat format to
.pov format ?
Thanks!
--
Sebastian Schmidt
TU Ilmenau Institut f. praktische Informatik
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5406 | From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip
encryption
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA
Lines: 11
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.intercon.com
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1
gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal) writes:
> Whatever happens though, the effect of this new chip will be to make
> private crypto stand out like a sore thumb.
It already does.
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
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5407 | From: warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Subject: Re: disk safety measure?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Lines: 33
<1pq0re$gc2@network.ucsd.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: steve-dallas.mit.edu
In-reply-to: loki@sdphu3.ucsd.edu's message of 5 Apr 93 19:21:18 GMT
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In article <1pq0re$gc2@network.ucsd.edu> loki@sdphu3.ucsd.edu (Lance M Cottrell) writes:
BTW I have not been able to get pgp to produce a signature
that I can attatch to the end of this message. What is
the procedure? Thanks.
try:
pgp -sat +clearsig=on
This will do the clearsig signing...
Enjoy!
- -derek
PGP 2 key available upon request on the key-server:
pgp-public-keys@toxicwaste.mit.edu
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--
Derek Atkins, MIT '93, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
Secretary, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
MIT Media Laboratory, Speech Research Group
warlord@MIT.EDU PP-ASEL N1NWH
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5408 | From: mars@carroll1.cc.edu (Sean Tyler Mars)
Subject: Help: Blowing the stack
Expires: 29 Apr 93 23:00:00 GMT
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI
Lines: 25
Hi everyone,
I have a question regarding my stack on my pc. I am programming
in Turbo C 3.0 and my program is rather large (model large too). I keep
getting errors that I am running out of memory after a while of running the
program. When I compile the program, it says I have 4.45 meg of RAM so
I can't seem to explain why it crashes.
All it is doing is running in a loop while the operator is idle and
after a while of sitting, it will screw up all the variables. This leads
me to believe that my stack is filling up and overflowing.
Does the program take memory up when it is calling void functions
that do not return anything??
I have been working on this problem for days and I would really
appreciate any responce. If this is not the correct newsgroup, I will
gladly re-post, but this is the only I could find.
Thanks in advance,
Sean Mars
Email mars@carroll1.cc.edu
Carroll College
Waukesha, WI
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5409 | From: dshanks@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Shanks)
Subject: Re: Diamond Speedstar Driver for v3.1
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Lines: 10
In article <116005@bu.edu> rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee) writes:
>I am looking for a WIN31 driver (or set) for my Diamond
>Speedstar 1MB video card.
The Diamond BBS has these. Their 2400 baud BBS phone number is (408)
730-1100. Their 9600 baud BBS phone number is (408) 524-9335. Sorry,
I don't know of any FTP site that has these (though I'd be surprised if
there wasn't one).
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5410 | From: drinckes@tssc.wlg.nec.co.jp (Doug Rinckes)
Subject: Re: RGV and posing!!
Nntp-Posting-Host: 133.206.251.21
Reply-To: drinckes@tssc.wlg.nec.co.jp
Organization: Telecommunications Systems Support Centre, New Zealand
Lines: 18
In article 25444@dsd.es.com, bgardner@pebbles.es.com (Blaine Gardner) writes:
>In article <speedy.153@engr.latech.edu> speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) writes:
>>In article <2553@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au> amydlak@spam.maths.adelaide.edu.au (Adam Mydlak) writes:
>
>>>[Squid deleted]
>
>> 5. Helment laws vary from state to state. In my state (Louisiana) it is
>>the law. I personaly, would not go 2 feet on a bike without one law or no
>>law. A helment will save your life.
>
>I'll go 2 feet, but I draw the line at 3.
I'll see your 3 and raise you 4.
Doug Rinckes drinckes@tssc.wlg.nec.co.jp New Zealand TSSC Ltd
1976 BMW R100S 1960 BMW R60 1940 Indian 741A
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5411 | From: raynor@cs.scarolina.edu (Harold Brian Raynor)
Subject: Help needed on hidden line removal
Summary: Need help with Roberts algorithm/Hidden line removal
Keywords: hidden line graphics 3D
Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
Distribution: comp
Lines: 20
I am looking for some information of hidden line removal using Roberts
algorithm. Something with code, or pseudo code would be especially
helpful.
I am required to do this for a class, due Monday (we have very little
time to implement these changes, it is a VERY FAST paced class). The
notes given in class leave a LOT to be desired, so I would vastly
appreciate any help.
Actually any algorithm would be nice (Roberts or no). The main problem
is two objects intersecting in x and y dimensions, need to know which
lines to clip off so that one object will appear in front of another.
If you can give me an ftp address and filename, or even the name of a
good book, I'd REALLY appreciate it.
Thanks,
Brian Raynor
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5412 | From: sjp@ogre.apana.org.au (Steven Pemberton)
Subject: Any info on Cyrix 486DRu2 chip?
Distribution: world
Organization: Home Sweet Home
Lines: 16
Cyrix have released a 386 pin-conpatible 486 clone. Designed to upgrade
old 16 & 20MHz 386's the chips are also clockdoubling. Thus a 16MHz 386
can be transformed into a 32MHz 486, with a single chip upgrade.
Unfortunately in Australia the DRu2 sells for $700A (16MHz) and $1000A
(20MHz), about 1.5x the price of a 486dx33 motherboard with two vlb slots!!!
How much do these thing cost in the States?
How well do they work?
Thanks for any info,
Steven Pemberton \o/ 486 NoteBook
------------------------------- | ----------------------------
sjp@ogre.apana.org.au / \ OS/2 2.0
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5413 | From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Motorola XC68882RC33 and RC50
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 14
In article <sgberg.23xu@charon.bloomington.in.us> sgberg@charon.bloomington.in.us (Stefan Berg) writes:
>... I don't know why my FPU has an XC (my original 33MHz FPU
>was label MC68882-33), but it seems to work fine on my system...
>P.S. Or does it mean eXperimental Chip instead of Motorola Chip? .-)
The rule for the designations is that if it says MC, that means it works
*exactly* the way the datasheet/book specifies. If it says XC, that means
there is at least one known bug. Often these bugs are small and obscure;
you might never run into them in practice.
At least Motorola admits it, unlike certain other companies...
--
All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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5414 | From: baseball@catch-the-fever.scd.ucar.edu (Gregg Walters)
Subject: Mathcad 4.0 swap file?
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Lines: 119
Reposting and summarizing, for your information or additional comment.
*** THIS IS LONG ***
I have 16MB of memory on my 386SX (25 MHz), an Intel math coprocessor, and
a 120MB hard drive with 20MB free (no compression). I have been running
Mathcad 3.1, under Windows 3.1 in enhanced mode, with a 5MB RAM drive,
2MB/1MB Smart drive, and no swap file (permanent or temporary) for
several months.
I am interested in the faster Mathcad 4.0, but I am concerned about reported
swap file requirements and the legitimacy of Mathsoft's claim about increased
speed.
TO 386SX USERS:
Will Mathcad 4.0 run without a swap file, or insist that I use a swap file?
So far, in response to a less detailed description of my setup, or in
unrelated postings, the more informed answers, on the net or by E-mail,
appear to be:
1) by fuess@llnl.gov (David A. Fuess) >>
>> According to Mathsoft, no. Mathcad uses the swap file extensively so as
>> not to overburden the physical resources. They say this is actually a
>> win32s feature. A figure of 10MB was indicated to me as a minimum. But
>> you might try anyway!
2) by bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler) >>
>> I'm not all that certain that Mathcad is the culprit here.
>>
>> I have a 486/66DX2 with 16MB of main memory (less 2MB for a RAMdisk and
>> a bit for a DOS session that is opened as part of the startup process),
>> which I have been running without any swapfile. When I installed the
>> WIN32s subsystem from the March Beta of the NT SDK, the WIN32s subsystem
>> itself demanded the presence of a swapfile. The only WIN32s program
>> I've run to date is the 32-bit version of Freecell that came with that
>> subsystem.
>>
>> I gave Windows a small temporary swapfile (I'm leery of files that must
>> remain in fixed locations on my hard disk), and all seems well.
3) by bca@ece.cmu.edu (Brian C. Anderson) >>
>> What is Win32? I upgraded to Mathcad 4.0 and it installed a directory for
>> Win32 under \windows\system . During the upgrade it told me that win32
>> was required.
4) by case0030@student.tc.umn.edu (Steven V Case-1) >>
>> MathCad 4.0 makes use of the Win32s libraries. You've probably
>> heard about Win32s, it is a 32-bit Windows library that provides
>> much of the Windows NT functionality (no support for threads and
>> multitasking and such) but can be run under Windows 3.1.
5) by rhynetc@zardoz.chem.appstate.edu (Thomas C. Rhyne) >>
>> I also have 16 Mb of ram, and indeed Mathcad 4.0 insisted on a permanent
>> swapfile; it would not run otherwise.
6) by bishop@baeyer.chem.fsu.edu (Greg Bishop) >>
>> 3) MathCAD absolutely requires 4MB RAM (with 12MB swap file) or 8MB RAM
>> (with 8MB swap file). It will give you a not enough memory error if the
>> swap file is less than 8MB. It is a MAJOR resource hog. If you do not
>> load the symbolic processor or the smart math, it takes about 5MB of RAM
>> (real or virtual) just to load (again, due to the win32s libraries.
********************************************************************************
* *
* So it seems that in addition to the system requirements shown on Mathsoft's *
* advertisement for 4.0, that you need a swap file, possibly as big as 12MB. *
* Looks like I would just need an 8MB swap file, and would need to choose (or *
* can I?) between a faster permanent swap file, or a slower temporary swap file*
* *
* Apparently a Win32 subsystem ships with Mathcad 4.0 - how much disk space *
* does this require? *
* *
********************************************************************************
I also received these answers:
1) by mfdjh@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dale Hample) >>
>> If you've got 16 megs of RAM, why not configure 10megs as a ram disk for
>> Mathcad? DOS 6 permits different bootup configurations.
********************************************************************************
* *
* Can Mathcad 4.0 + Win32 be configured to use such a RAM drive instead of a *
* swap file? If not, I don't see how using DOS 6.0 for an alternate bootup *
* would provide Windows with this swap file. Some time back I remember a *
* discussion about the issues of using a RAM drive to support a swap file, *
* but I thought this involved slower, < 8MB systems. *
* *
* I have DOS 6.0 but for various reasons have not yet done a full installation.*
* *
* By the way, is a full installation of DOS 6.0 required to avail oneself of *
* the "alternate bootup" feature? Which files from the installation disks are *
* required? *
* *
********************************************************************************
2) by wild@access.digex.com (Wildstrom) >>
>> Presumeably, you mean without a _permanent_ swap file. If Windows needs a
>> swap file, it will upo and create one if a permanent one doesn't exist.
>> Permanent is generally faster though. I don't know why Mathcad wouldn't
>> be happy with either type--Ver. 3.0 is and so should any program conforming
>> to the Win specification.
*********************************************************************************
* *
* So far, 16MB has been enough RAM to avoid the overhead of running ANY swap *
* file - I have been running Mathcad 3.1 under Windows 3.1 without one. *
* *
*********************************************************************************
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5415 | From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: A Message for you Mr. President: How do you know what happened?
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 12
In article <sandvik-190493200323@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>I'm mostly angry why the Davidians didn't spare the children the
>awful suffering. See my other posting, I'm in a bad temper.
Well, dozens of children left the compound between the original BATF assualt
and the FBI assault 7 weeks later. So if Koresh really wanted to kill
children, why did he let so many go?
--
Legalize Freedom
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5416 | From: auerbach@batman.bmd.trw.com
Subject: Accelerating the MacPlus...;)
Lines: 15
We're about ready to take a bold step into the 90s around here by accelerating
our rather large collection of stock MacPlus computers. Yes indeed, difficult
to comprehend why anyone would want to accelerate a MacPlus, but that's another
story. Suffuce it to say, we can get accelerators easier than new machines.
Hey, I don't make the rules...
Anyway, on to the purpose of this post: I'm looking for info on MacPlus
acelerators. So far, I've found some lit on the Novy Accelerator and the
MicrMac MultiSpeed Accelartor. Both look acceptable, but I would like to hear
from anyone who has tried these. Also, if someone would recommend another
accelerator for the MacPlus, I'd like to hear about it.
Thanks for any time and effort you expend on this!
Karl
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5417 | From: enolan@sharkbite.esd.sgi.com (Ed Nolan)
Subject: Devils and Islanders tiebreaker????
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Lines: 4
Nntp-Posting-Host: sharkbite.esd.sgi.com
If the Islanders beat the Devils tonight, they would finish with
identical records. Who's the lucky team that gets to face the Penguins
in the opening round? Also, can somebody list the rules for breaking
ties.
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5418 | From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (Clinton/Gore '92)
Subject: CLINTON: President Names Officials at Transp., Comm., Defen., OPIC
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Lines: 130
NNTP-Posting-Host: life.ai.mit.edu
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release April 14, 1993
PRESIDENT NAMES OFFICIALS AT
TRANSPORTATION, COMMERCE, DEFENSE, AND OPIC
(Washington, DC) President Clinton announced his intention
today to nominate Albert Herberger to be Administrator of the
Federal Maritime Administration, Loretta Dunn to be Assistant
Secretary of Commerce for Import Administration, and Christopher
Finn to be Executive Vice President of the Overseas Private
Investment Corporation.
Additionally, he has approved the appointments of Joan Yim
to be Deputy Administrator of the Federal Maritime
Administration, Alice Maroni to be Principal Deputy Comptroller
of the Department of Defense, and Deborah Castelman to be Deputy
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Command, Control, and
Communications.
"We are continuing to move forward with putting together a
government of excellent, diverse Americans who share my
commitment to changing the way that Washington works," said the
President. "These six people I am naming today fit that bill."
Biographical sketches of the nominees are attached.
###
BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES OF NOMINEES
April 14, 1993
Albert Herberger, a thirty-five year Navy veteran who
retired with the rank of Vice Admiral, is the Vice President of
the International Planning and Analysis Center (IPAC). Among the
positions he held during his naval service were Deputy Commander-
in-Chief of the U.S. Transportation Command, Director of
Logistics on Staff for the Atlantic Fleet Commander-in-Chief, and
Director of the Military Personnel Policy Division for the Office
of Naval Operations. A surface warfare expert and a merchant
marine officer with over eighteen years operational experience,
Herberger is also Vice Chairman of the National Defense
Transportation Association's Sealift Committee. He is a graduate
of the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy and the Naval Postgraduate
School.
Loretta Dunn has served on the staff of the Senate Committee
on Commerce, Science, and Transportation since 1979. Since 1983
she has been the Committee's Senior Trade Counsel, responsible
for drafting trade legislation and reports, planning and
conducting hearings, managing legislation on the Senate floor and
in conferences with the House, overseeing a variety of executive
branch agencies, including the Department of Commerce. She was
previously a Staff Counsel for the Committee. Dunn holds a B.A.
in History from the University of Kentucky, a J.D. from the
University of Kentucky College of Law, and an L.M. from the
Georgetown University Law Center.
Christopher Finn is the Executive Vice President of Equities
for the American Stock Exchange. Previous positions he has held
have included Senior Vice President of the Air and Water
Technologies Corporation, Chief of Staff to Senator Daniel P.
Moynihan, Deputy Commissioner of the New York State Department of
Economic Development, and Chief Legislative Aide to Congressman
James R. Jones. Finn is a graduate of Harvard College.
Joan Yim is a professional planner with over 17 years
experience in community based planning, policy analysis, project
design and management, inter-agency coordination and government
affairs. From 1975-92, she was with the Hawaii Office of State
Planning as a planner on issues relating to natural resource and
coastal zone management and public infrastructure financing,
among other issues. Currently, she is Supervising Planner with
the Honolulu firm of Parsons Brinckerhogg Quade & Douglas.
Before going to work for the state, she was Executive
Neighborhood Commission Secretary for the City and County of
Honolulu, and Chair on the Kaneohe Community Planning Committee.
A Democratic National committeewoman, Yim holds a B.A. from
Connecticut College and pursued graduate studies at the
University of Hawaii.
(more)
April 14, 1993
page two
Alice Maroni is a professional staff member of the House
Armed Services Committee specializing in defense budget issues.
She previously worked as a national defense specialist in the
Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division of the
Congressional Research Service, and as an international risk
analyst for Rockwell International. She has written extensively
on defense budget related topics. Maroni received her B.A. from
Mount Holyoke College, and an M.A. from the Fletcher School of
Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. She has also completed
the senior service program at the National War College and
Harvard's Program for Senior Executives in National and
International Security.
Deborah Castleman is currently on leave from RAND, where she
is a Space and Defense Policy Analyst. She was an advisor to the
Clinton/Gore campaign on space, science and technology, and
national security issues. Prior to joining RAND in 1989,
Castleman held engineering positions with the Hughes Space and
Communications Group, General Dynamics, and Electrac, Inc. She
served as an Avionics Technician in the Air Force from 1974-77.
Castleman holds a B.S. in Electrical and Electronic Engineering
from California State Polytechnic University, M.S. in Electrical
Engineering from the California Institute of Technology, and M.A.
in International Studies from Claremont Graduate School.
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5419 | From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 35
In article <93105.215548U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>>I have been at a shooting range where
>>>gang members were "practicing" shooting.
>In article <1993Apr15.202811.29312@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) says:
>>How do "we" know that they were gang members and not undercover cops
>>or even law-abiding menacing minorities. BTW - Why the sneer quotes?
>
>"We" know because the area that the gun shop/shooting range is in is right on
>the border of the west side of Chicago. That is a gang infested area.
So? Kratz was there - does that mean that he's a gang member?
Even in the most gang-infested areas, most of the residents ARE NOT
gang-members.
>that only minorities have gangs? Not so. As far as the quotes are concerned
>it was totally obvious that they weren't just practicing for marksmanship.
How was it obvious? Were they not trying to hit the target? Or, does
Kratz confuse "marksmanship" with "trying to simulate a post"? If so,
that excludes self-defense shooting, but the rest of us understand
that that exclusion would be an error. (It excludes a lot of legit
"gun games" as well.)
>don't know about you but I have never seen anyone else practice marksmanship by
>taking their gun out of their coat as fast as possible and start shooting.
Sounds like practical pistol or maybe IPSC. It also sounds like how a
self-defense shooter might well practice. The only things that action
excludes are hunting and "like a post" shooting. Kratz should get out
more often.
-andy
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5420 | Subject: Re: Tie Breaker....(Isles and Devils)
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta
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In article <lrw509f@rpi.edu>, wangr@vccsouth22.its.rpi.edu ( Rex Wang ) writes:
> Are people here stupid or what??? It is a tie breaker, of cause they
> have to have the same record. How can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as
> first in the list for tie breaker??? If it is a tie breaker, how can there be
> different record???? Man, I thought people in this net are good with hockey.
> I might not be great in Math, but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points
> with different record??? Man...retard!!!!!! Can't believe people actually put
> win as first in a tie breaker......
Then allow me to enlighten you, Rex. You see, there's a thing called a tie.
A tie is worth one point (I know, I know. You're not good at math. But bear
with me). A win is worth two points. So, getting two ties is the same as
getting one win. If your team played two games, won one and lost one, you'd
have two points. If my team played two games and tied them both, we'd also
have two points. We'd be tied in the standings even though our records are
different.
Perhaps you should learn something about hockey before posting again. (I am
starting to sound like Roger or what?)
Alan
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5421 | From: mvanmeet@ua.d.umn.edu (Mike VanMeeteren)
Subject: Re: electronic odometers (was: Used BMW Question ..... ???)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
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In article <C5HHKo.1ry@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu> mobasser@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu (Bijan Mobasseri) writes:
>> There are two simple procedures for alterating any odometer.
>>
>>1. Mechanical driven odometer:
>> Remove the speedo cable from the transmission.
>> Attach a drill and run at max speed until the speedo turns over.
>> Continue until the desired mileage is reached.
>====================================
>Admittedly an irrelavent question:for how long should the drill be running?
>
>Bijan
A verrrrrry long time, like on the order of days. I had the pleasure of
doing that once (playing with the speedo cable) and with my B&D heavy duty at
full speed (600 rpm) all the speedo ever got up to was 30 MPH. Now if you go
a high speed drill and ran it at say 4000 rpm, you could get 200 MPH out of
it. (If you speedo doesn't burn out.) Anyways, to roll a 100000 Mile
odometer would take 22 days or so. Much easier just to take the speedo
apart.
Thought I'd share. BTW, all this info was obtained legally :-)
--
(~)~)~) o /) _ Computer Lesson One: There is no "any" key, alternate keys
/ / / / /_) /_) are <shift>,<ctrl>,<caps lock>,<alt>
/ / (_(_/ (_/\_ and sometimes <tab>.
mvanmeet@ub.d.umn.edu -consultant at lab
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5422 | From: rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Nice Guy)
Subject: Re: Celebrate Liberty! 1993
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Lines: 10
This is as bad as the "Did You Know" Japan bashing of 2 weeks ago. After
finding this set of postings for the third time I hope no one shows up.
I don't know why fools insist on posting to every group. It just
agrevates people.
--
Rod Anderson N0NZO | The only acceptable substitute
Boulder, CO | for brains is silence.
rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu | -Solomon Short-
satellite N0NZO on ao-16 |
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5423 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: No Muslim left alive - not a single one: Historical Armenian Barbarism.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Apr10.025031.24352@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> halsall@MURRAY.FORDHAM.EDU (Paul Halsall) writes:
> Simple question Serdar?
Anytime.
> If the Armenians killed so many Turks in Eastern Anatolia,
>how come the area today is full of Turks [and Muslim Kurds] and
>not full of Armenians?
Suffering from a severe case of myopia? No Muslim left alive - not a
single one. Leading the first Armenian units who crossed the Ottoman
border in the company of the Russian invaders was the former Ottoman
Parliamentary representative for Erzurum, Karekin Pastirmaciyan, who
assumed the revolutionary name Armen Garo. Another former Ottoman
parliamentarian, Hamparsum Boyaciyan, led the Armenian guerrilla forces
who ravaged Turkish villages behind the lines under the nickname "Murad",
especially ordering that
'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them and in
whatever circumstances you find them. Turkish children
also should be killed as they form a danger to the
Armenian nation.' (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)[1]
[1] M. Varandian, "History of the Dashnaktsutiun," p. 85.
Another former Member of Parliament, Papazyan, led the Armenian
guerrilla forces that ravaged the areas of Van, Bitlis and Mush.
In March 1915, the Russian forces began to move toward Van. Immediately,
in April 11, 1915 the Armenians of Van began a revolt, massacring all
the Turks in the vicinity so as to make possible its quick and easy
conquest by Russians. Little wonder that Czar Nicholas II sent a
telegram of thanks to the Armenian Revolutionary Committee of Van in
April 21, 1915, "thanking it for its services to Russia." The Armenian
newspaper Gochnak, published in the United States, also proudly
reported in May 24, 1915 that
"only 1,500 Turks remained in Van the rest having been slaughtered."
Source: Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918.
University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.
"The addition of the Kars and Batum oblasts to the Empire increased the
area of Transcaucasia to over 130,000 square miles. The estimated population
of the entire region in 1886 was 4,700,000, of whom 940,000 (20 percent) were
Armenian, 1,200,000 (25 percent) Georgian, and 2,220,000 (45 percent) Moslem.
Of the latter group, 1,140,000 were Tatars. Paradoxically, barely one-third
of Transcaucasia's Armenians lived in the Erevan guberniia, where the
Christians constituted a majority in only three of the seven uezds. Erevan
uezd, the administrative center of the province, had only 44,000 Armenians
as compared to 68,000 Moslems. By the time of the Russian Census of 1897,
however, the Armenians had established a scant majority, 53 percent, in the
guberniia; it had risen by 1916 to 60 percent, or 670,000 of the 1,120,000
inhabitants. This impressive change in the province's ethnic character
notwithstanding, there was, on the eve of the creation of the Armenian
Republic, a solid block of 370,000 Tartars who continued to dominate the
southern districts, from the outskirts of Ereven to the border of Persia."
(See also Map 1. Historic Armenia and Map 4. Administrative subdivisions of
Transcaucasia).
In 1920, '0' percent Turk.
"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as
ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work
of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village.
Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts
into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable
and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets
completed the work. Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They
found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border
into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole
length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to
Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain
plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of
Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for
howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the
scattered bones of the dead."
Ohanus Appressian
"Men Are Like That"
p. 202.
Source: Stanford J. Shaw, on Armenian collaboration with invading Russian
armies in 1914, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume
II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975)."
(London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316.
"In April 1915 Dashnaks from Russian Armenia organized a revolt in the city
of Van, whose 33,789 Armenians comprised 42.3 percent of the population,
closest to an Armenian majority of any city in the Empire...Leaving Erivan
on April 28, 1915, Armenian volunteers reached Van on May 14 and organized
and carried out a general slaughter of the local Muslim population during
the next two days while the small Ottoman garrison had to retreat to the
southern side of the lake."
"Knowing their numbers would never justify their territorial ambitions,
Armenians looked to Russia and Europe for the fulfillment of their aims.
Armenian treachery in this regard culminated at the beginning of the First
World War with the decision of the revolutionary organizations to refuse
to serve their state, the Ottoman Empire, and to assist instead other
invading Russian armies. Their hope was their participation in the Russian
success would be rewarded with an independent Armenian state carved out of
Ottoman territories. Armenian political leaders, army officers, and common
soldiers began deserting in droves."
"With the Russian invasion of eastern Anatolia in 1914 at the beginning of
World War I, the degree of Armenian collaboration with the Ottoman's enemy
increased drastically. Ottoman supply lines were cut by guerilla attacks,
Armenian revolutionaries armed Armenian civil populations, who in turn
massacred the Muslim population of the province of Van in anticipation of
expected arrival of the invading Russian armies."
Source: Stanford J. Shaw, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey,"
Vol II. Cambridge University Press, London, 1979, pp. 314-317.
"...Meanwhile, Czar Nicholas II himself came to the Caucasus to make final
plans for cooperation with the Armenians against the Ottomans, with the
president of the Armenian National Bureau in Tiflis declaring in response:
'From all countries Armenians are hurrying to enter the ranks of the
glorious Russian Army, with their blood to serve the victory of Russian
arms...Let the Russian flag wave freely over the Dardanelles and the
Bosporus. Let, with Your will, great Majesty, the peoples remaining
under the Turkish yoke receive freedom. Let the Armenian people of Turkey
who have suffered for the faith of Christ receive resurrection for a new
free life under the protection of Russia.'[155]
Armenians again flooded into the czarist armies. Preparations were made
to strike the Ottomans from the rear, and the czar returned to St. Petersburg
confident that the day finally had come for him to reach Istanbul."
[155] Horizon, Tiflis, November 30, 1914, quoted by Hovannisian, "Road to
Independence," p. 45; FO 2485, 2484/46942, 22083.
"Ottoman morale and military position in the east were seriously hurt, and
the way was prepared for a new Russian push into eastern Anatolia, to be
accompanied by an open Armenian revolt against the sultan.[156]"
[156] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," pp. 45-47; Bayur, III/1,
pp. 349-380; W.E.D. Allen and P. Muratoff, "Caucasian Battlefields,"
Cambridge, 1953, pp. 251-277; Ali Ihsan Sabis, "Harb Hahralaram," 2 vols.,
Ankara, 1951, II, 41-160; FO 2146 no. 70404; FO 2485; FO 2484, nos.
46942 and 22083.
"An Armenian state was organized at Van under Russian protection, and it
appeared that with the Muslim natives dead or driven away, it might be
able to maintain itself at one of the oldest centers of ancient Armenian
civilization. An Armenian legion was organized 'to expel the Turks from
the entire southern shore of the lake in preparation for a concerted
Russian drive into the Bitlis vilayet.'[162] Thousands of Armenians from
Mus and other major centers in the east began to flood into the new
Armenian state...By mid-July there were as many as 250,000 Armenians
crowded into the Van area, which before the crisis had housed and fed
no more than 50,000 people, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.[163]"
[162] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," p. 56; FOP 2488, nos. 127223 and
58350.
[163] BVA, Meclis-i Vukela Mazbatalari, debates of August 15-17, 1915;
Babi-i Ali Evrak Odasi, no. 175, 321, "Van Ihtilali ve Katl-i Ami,"
Zilkade 1333/10 September 1915.
Now wait, there is more.
From "The Diplomacy of Imperialism," William L. Langer, New York (Alfred A.
Knopf), 1960, pp. 157-160.
"Armenians watch their opportunity to kill Turks and Kurds, set fire
to their villages, and then make their escape into the mountains."
> Also, since the Ottomans were such great tolerators, how come
>the Armenians were counted as part of the RUM millet, i.e. forced
>under the control of the GREEK Orthodox patriarchate?
Are you people for real? The main legal principles of the Turkish State
are summarized in Article 2 of the Constitution:
"The Republic of Turkey is a democratic, secular and social State
governed by the rule of law; bearing in mind the concepts of public
peace, national solidarity and justice; respecting human rights;
loyal to the nationalism of Ataturk, and based on the fundamental
tenets set forth in the Preamble of the Constitution."
Freedom of culture and religion prevailed during the Ottoman Empire, allowing
the many nations and races within its boundaries to remain autonomous. The
fact that the Ottoman Empire was the longest lived in recent history may be
attributed to these freedoms, despite the lack of any written Constitution.
The first attempts to create a written Constitution occurred in 1839 and 1856.
Although the documents adopted during these two attempts remained in force
only temporarily, they provided the basic elements of a Constitution.
The 1876 Constitution was the first legal document to force a Parliament and
the right of election to share the sovereignty of the Emperor. The Constitution
of 1906 placed some additional limitations on the Emperor, while increasing
the power of the Parliament and the government.
The First World War (1914-1918) brought the Ottoman Empire to an end. By the
occupation of Istanbul, the Parliament was dissolved and the Constitution was
abolished. The members of Parliament were sent to exile to an island by the
occupying forces.
During the Independence War, the "Turkish Grand National Assembly" held their
first meeting on April 23, 1920 to serve as the legislative body of the new
Turkish state. This assembly prepared the new legal structure of the Turkish
Republic. The new Republic was proclaimed on October 29, 1923 and the new
Constitution was adopted in 1924. That Constitution served as the legal
backbone of today's modern Turkish Republic. In 1945, Turkey adopted a
multi-party political system. The Constitution of 1924 was replaced by
others in 1961 and 1982. All three Constitutions of the Republic have been
based on the principles of parliamentary democracy, human rights, national
sovereignty, division of powers, private ownership and secularization.
"Major Principles of the Constitution"
The constitution (with 177 Articles) establishes the structure of the Republic
within the following principles:
- The Turkish Republic is a democratic, secular and social state governed by
law;
- It should be governed to maintain public peace, national solidarity, justice,
human rights and the objectives of Ataturk;
- The language of the State is Turkish;
- Sovereignty is vested in the nation without any conditions or restrictions.
Sovereignty is exercised by organizations authorized by the nation;
- Legislative power is carried by the Parliament elected by the nation. This
power cannot be delegated (transferred) to any one else;
- Executive power is exercised by the President, and Council of Ministers;
- Judicial power is exercised by the independent courts on behalf of the
Turkish nation;
- All individuals are equal, irrespective of language, race, religion, color,
sex, or political beliefs;
- Laws cannot be contradict those principles stated in the Constitution.
"Structure of the State"
In accordance with the Constitution, the structure of the state is based on the
principle of "division of power" to create a balanced and self-controlled
system. The power is divided into "legislative power," "executive power," and
"judicial power," balanced to secure freedoms and powers to control each
other (self-control).
A. Legislative Power:
The "Turkish Grand National Assembly" is a parliament with one House, elected
by the nation for a term of five years to exercise legislative power on
behalf of the nation. The basic functions of this Assembly are:
- to adopt, to amend, or to repeal laws;
- to approve or to dismiss the Council of Ministers;
- to supervise and to question Ministers or the Council of Ministers;
- to debate, to amend and to approve annual budgets;
- to ratify international agreements;
- to grant amnesty or pardons.
Members of Parliament do not have any liability for their words (either oral
or written) during the course of their legislative duties. The country is
divided into constituencies. The number of representatives of each is
calculated according to its population. Every Turkish citizen over the age
of twenty-one can vote.
Elections are supervised by the "Supreme Council of Elections," which solves
all disputes or appeals. In each province, the local "Board of Election"
runs and controls the election under the supervision and guidelines of the
Supreme Council. Members of the Council and Boards are elected among
independent judges.
B. Executive Power:
The President of the Republic is the Head of State (not the head of government
as in the Unites States). The main functions of the President are:
- to represent the State and the Country;
- to insure the implementation of the Constitution;
- to coordinate legislative, judicial and executive functions;
- act as the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces;
- to ratify laws and government decrees.
The President is elected by the Grand National Assembly for a period of seven
years. The President may ratify or return the laws for a second debate, may
call for a referendum.
Executive power is exercised by the "Council of Ministers," headed by the
Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is appointed by the President from the
members of Parliament. The Prime Minister names the Ministers for approval
by the President. The new Government (Council of Ministers) reads their
program at the Parliament and the vote of confidence follows. There are 21 (?)
Ministers in the Council.
Ministers and other members of the administration can be sued in independent
"administrative" courts for their misuse of power, administrative errors or
functions against any law.
C. Judicial Power:
Judicial power is exercised by independent courts. No authority or power can
instruct the judges or public prosecutors of the courts. These cannot be
discharged, replaced or retired by executive authorities except for the
reasons clearly stated by the appropriate laws. There are three categories
of courts in the Turkish judiciary system:
- Courts of justice deal with legal, commercial and criminal cases. The
decisions of these courts may be reviewed by the supreme court of justice
upon the appeal of the parties involved.
- The decisions or functions of the executive power (including the Prime
Minister and Ministers or any governmental department) can be appealed in
administrative courts if these functions or decisions are against the law.
The decisions of these administrative courts may also be reviewed by the
high administrative court.
The laws and decisions of the Grand National Assembly can be examined by the
"Constitutional Court" if they contradict the Constitution. If found
contradictory, this court may cancel the decisions or laws of the Parliament.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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5424 | From: lowell@locus.com (Lowell Morrison)
Subject: Re: Freemasonry and the Southern Baptist Convention
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Lines: 41
In article <1qv82l$oj2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea) writes:
>
>
> With the Southern Baptist Convention convening this June to consider
>the charges that Freemasonry is incompatible with christianity, I thought
>the following quotes by Mr. James Holly, the Anti-Masonic Flag Carrier,
>would amuse you all...
>
>
> The following passages are exact quotes from "The Southern
>Baptist Convention and Freemasonry" by James L. Holly, M.D., President
>of Mission and Ministry To Men, Inc., 550 N 10th St., Beaumont, TX
>77706.
>
<much drivel deleted>
> "Jesus Christ never commanded toleration as a motive for His
>disciples, and toleration is the antithesis of the Christian message."
>Page 30.
>
> "The central dynamic of the Freemason drive for world unity
>through fraternity, liberty and equality is toleration. This is seen
>in the writings of the 'great' writers of Freemasonry". Page 31.
<more drivel deleted>
> I hope you all had a good laugh! I know *I* did! <g>,
>
>
>Tony
A Laugh? Tony, this religeous bigot scares the shit out of me, and that
any one bothers to listen to him causes me to have grave doubts about the
future of just about anything. Shades of the Branch Davidians, Jim Jones,
and Charlie Manson.
--Uncle Wolf
--Member Highland Lodge 748 F&AM (Grand Lodge of California)
--Babtized a Southern Babtist
--And one who has beliefs beyond the teachings of either.
>
>
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5425 | From: disser@engin.umich.edu (David Disser)
Subject: 2D bitmap interpolation
Organization: University of Michigan
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: vesuvius.engin.umich.edu
Yesterday I wrote a program to do bilinear interpolation ala Numerical
Recipes, with the PBMPLUS libraries. I'm pretty happy with the results,
but I'm looking for any already-coded non-linear interpolation schemes
before I go ahead an try to write one. Any pointers?
--
) Dave Disser UM-CAEN User Services Wealth is wasted
) disser@engin.umich.edu 229 Chrysler Center on the old.
) (313) 763-3067 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2092
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5426 | From: sdun@isma.demon.co.uk (Stephen Dunne)
Subject: Re: GGRRRrrr!! Cages double-parking motorc
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Reply-To: sdun@isma.demon.co.uk (Stephen Dunne)
Organization: Demon Internet Services.
In <1qjmf6$d0i@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>In article 34211@castle.ed.ac.uk, wbg@festival.ed.ac.uk (W Geake) writes:
>An apartment complex where I used to live tried this, only they put the
>thing over the driver's window, "so they couldn't miss it." A friend
>damned near wrecked on the way home one night, her vision blocked by
>the sticker. I suggested to the manager the ENORMOUS liability they
>Be careful about putting stickers on cages' windows.
Hmmm.. The LDDC security guards over here in Docklands only place parking
stickers on the drivers SIDE windows.. But on reflection that could still
cause an accident.. Suppose it's because people aren't as litigious over
here as in the states :-)
Stephen
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5427 | From: Howard Frederick <hfrederick@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Re: Turkish Government Agents on UseNet
Nf-ID: #R:1993Apr15.204512.11971@urartu.sd:1238805668:cdp:1483500341:000:1042
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hfrederick Apr 16 14:31:00 1993
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I don't know anything about this particular case, but *other*
governments have been known to follow events on the Usenet. For
example after Tienanmien Square in Beijing the Chinese government
began monitoring cyberspace. As the former Director of PeaceNet,
I am aware of many incidents of local, state, national and
international authorities monitoring Usenet and other conferences
such as those on the Institute for Global Communications. But
what's the big deal? You shouldn't advocate illegal acts in this
medium in any case. If you are concerned about being monitored,
you should use encyrption software (available in IGC's "micro"
conference). I know for a fact that human rights activists in the
Balkan-Mideast area use encryption software to send out their
reports to international organizations. Such message *can* be
decoded however by large computers consuming much CPU time, which
probably the Turkish government doesn't have access to.
Howard Frederick, University of California, Irvine Department of
Politics and Society
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5428 | From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Subject: Re: Sport Utility Vehical comparisons? Any Opinions?
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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Distribution: na
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
> I just read articals on this in Road and Track and Car and Driver
> (Is that one mag or two? =B^), and I was wondering if people out
> there have any opinions that differed from what these mags have to say...
Depending on how you plan to use your SUV, I might recommend also
browsing Trailer Boats and one or more of those Pickup, Shotgun,
and 4WD magazines. The car rags mostly seem to consider recently
graded pea gravel to be offroading and ten sacks of redwood chips
to be a bedload. Considering that most of these SUVs seem to be
used mostly as robust station wagons, that's probably not a bad
approach, but if your applications are more demanding, pick your
information sources accordingly.
Of the three vehicles on your short list (Explorer, 4Runner,
Pathfinder), I'd recommend the 4Runner as being closely based
on a rather robust pickup and the Explorer for being comfortably
carlike. Don't know much about the Pathfinder.
Good luck,
--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
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5429 | From: wiggs@stsci.edu (Michael S. Wiggs)
Subject: Kubelwagen
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
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The answer to your question is...sort of. Volkswagen had a
much less robust version of this army vehicle out in the
early '70's (or thereabouts). It was called the Volskwagen
Thing, and was, of course, a convertible. I havent seen
many around then or now. Good luck...
-Mik
|
5430 | From: "Jack Previdi" <p00020@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Printing
In-Reply-To: <1qk2m5$1up@agate.berkeley.edu>
Nntp-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1
Organization: Avoirdupois Institute
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>DATE: 15 Apr 1993 16:32:05 GMT
>FROM: cozzlab@garnet.berkeley.edu
>
>In article <1993Apr15.053905.16811@sarah.albany.edu> me9574@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
>
>[advertises his printing business]
>
>Oh, dear. Let me be the first on my block.
>
>You have just violated one of the major shibboleths of the Usenet groups:
^^^^^^^^^^^
nit: Is he unable to type the first 'h' in this word? ;-)
>you're not supposed to use a newsgroup to plug your own commercial
>enterprise (of _any_ kind; people frequently get flamed for announcing
>they've got a new book out.)
>
>I don't know whether this is an official Usenet rule or just a long-
>standing custom, and it doesn't make much difference from a practical
>point of view.
As a matter of fact D.J., it does make a difference.
Almost a half million new users joined the Internet last year,
many of them are commercial businesses. The ban on commercial
use of Internet is no more.
One should have the breeding not to post commercial material
on an account provided by ones employer or school, unless the
provider of such account gives permission. (HA!)
Those of us who pay for Internet access are constrained only
by our innate good taste and no have no "administrator" to
guide(?) us.
Jack Previdi Veni, Vidi, Fece!
p00020@psilink.com
|
5431 | Subject: Re: Washington State
From: kim39@scws8.harvard.edu (John Kim)
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Nntp-Posting-Host: scws8.harvard.edu
Lines: 14
In article <1993Mar30.191157.8338@synapse.bms.com> hambidge@bms.com writes:
>In article <93088.191742U23590@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U23590@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>What is a CCW
>Acronym for Concealed Carrying of Weapon; basically, a permit to carry
>a concealed pistol or revolver.
I phoned Licensing Division in Washington State to ask for an application
for a CCW. Instead they promptly sent me an applicationfor becoming a
firearms dealer in Washington!
They even sent me a firearms safety pamphlet.
-Case Kim
|
5432 | From: amann@iam.unibe.ch (Stephan Amann)
Subject: Re: more on radiosity
Reply-To: amann@iam.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne, Institute of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics, Special Interest Group Computer Graphics
Lines: 80
In article 66319@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU, xz775327@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Xia Zhao) writes:
>
>
>In article <1993Apr19.131239.11670@aragorn.unibe.ch>, you write:
>|>
>|>
>|> Let's be serious... I'm working on a radiosity package, written in C++.
>|> I would like to make it public domain. I'll announce it in c.g. the minute
>|> I finished it.
>|>
>|> That were the good news. The bad news: It'll take another 2 months (at least)
>|> to finish it.
>
>
> Are you using the traditional radiosity method, progressive refinement, or
> something else in your package?
>
My package is based on several articles about non-standard radiosity and
some unpublished methods.
The main articles are:
- Cohen, Chen, Wallace, Greenberg :
A Progressive Refinement Approach to fast Radiosity Image Generation
Computer Graphics (SIGGRAPH), V. 22(No. 4), pp 75-84, August 1988
- Silion, Puech
A General Two-Pass Method Integrating Specular and Diffuse Reflection
Computer Graphics (SIGGRAPH), V23(No. 3), pp335-344, July 1989
> If you need to project patches on the hemi-cube surfaces, what technique are
> you using? Do you have hardware to facilitate the projection?
>
I do not use hemi-cubes. I have no special hardware (SUN SPARCstation).
>
>|>
>|> In the meantime you may have a look at the file
>|> Radiosity_code.tar.Z
>|> located at
>|> compute1.cc.ncsu.edu
>
>
> What are the guest username and password for this ftp site?
>
Use anonymous as username and your e-mail address as password.
>
>|>
>|> (there are some other locations; have a look at archie to get the nearest)
>|>
>|> Hope that'll help.
>|>
>|> Yours
>|>
>|> Stephan
>|>
>
>
> Thanks, Stephan.
>
>
> Josephine
Stephan.
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Stephan Amann SIG Computer Graphics, University of Berne, Switzerland
amann@iam.unibe.ch
Tel +41 31 65 46 79 Fax +41 31 65 39 65
Projects: Radiosity, Raytracing, Computer Graphics
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|
5433 | From: gpatapis@boyd.tansu.com.au (George Patapis)
Subject: Re: DESQview/X on a PC and network Traffic
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Lines: 71
Distribution: world
Reply-To: gpatapis@boyd.tansu.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: boyd.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au
In article 1369@qdeck.com, support@qdeck.com (Technical Support) writes:
>In article <1qtk84$rn5@picasso.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> gpatapis@boyd.tansu.com.au writes:
>
>>What sort of traffic is generated with the X-calls? I am curious to find
>>out the required bandwidth that a link must have if one machine running
>>DV/X is supporting multiple users (clients) and we require adequate response
>>time. Anyone have any ideas ??
>
>I expect the limiting factor will be your server machine, not the network
>itself. To give you a real-world example, here at Quarterdeck we have
>roughly 100 people using DVX to talk to a bunch of unix boxes, novell
>file servers, and each other. It's not _too_ much of a load on our
>Ethernet (with maybe 4 concentrators, so you have 20-30 people on each
>segment). If you had a badly loaded net, or the apps you wanted to run
>were very network intensive, you could run into some slowdowns.
>
>But the biggest problem would be the machine itself. Say you have a 486
>33 with plenty of ram and a fast hard disk and network card. If you have
>10 people running programs off it, you're going to see some slowdowns
>because you're now on (effectively) a 3.3 MHz 486. Of course, DVX will
>attempt to see if tasks are idle and make sure they give up their time
>slice, but if you have 10 working programs running, you'll know it.
>
Well I can buy a bigger and more powerful server machine because of the
significant drop in price year after year. The link I want to use
though (ISDN 64K) is costly and the bandwidth limited. That's why my
interest lies in seeing if such a link can be used and see what traffic
goes through it.
>Having said that, if you can tweak the programs being run (by adding
>in calls to give up time slices when idle and that sort of
>thing), you could probably run 15-20 people on a given machine before
>you started seeing slowdowns again (this time from network bandwidth).
Hmmm. Has anyone at your centre monitored the traffic at all? Are you
running any standard MS-Windows programs like Word ? What sort of
packets go blazing through? What size link do you have (2Mb or 10Mb ?).
What is the average traffic flow going through your network or do you
have few high peaks and then many low points?
>It all really depends on what the programs are doing (ie. you're going
>to see a slowdown from X-bandwidth a lot sooner if your apps are all
>doing network things also...)
>--
What do you mean by network things? I vision using MS Windows and other
Windows applications over the network were the processes are running on
the server and all I am getting are the displays. I am wondering how
good is the X and subsequently DV/X protocol in transferring these
images with X-calls and displaying them on a client's machine.
> Quarterdeck Office Systems - Internet Support - Tom Bortels
> Pricing/Ordering : info@qdeck.com | Tech Questions : support@qdeck.com
> BBS: (310) 314-3227 * FAX: (310) 314-3217 * Compuserve: GO QUARTERDECK
> Q/Fax: (310) 314-3214 from touch-tone phone for Technotes On Demand!
---
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|
5434 | From: dohertyl@dcs.gla.ac.uk (dohertyl)
Subject: (none)
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
Distribution: uk
Return-Path: <dohertyl@uk.ac.gla.dcs>
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.5
Lines: 2
I AM Satan!
|
5435 | From: ebosco@us.oracle.com (Eric Bosco)
Subject: Help choosing SCSI controler
Nntp-Posting-Host: monica.us.oracle.com
Reply-To: ebosco@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
at Oracle Corporation. The opinions expressed are those
of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.
Lines: 10
I need to buy a SCSI controler for my 486 machine to use with a quantum
425F harddrive. I know that adaptec is good, but they are kind of
expensive. Essentially I want a controller in the $100-$150 range that I
can use with this drive. I plan to use Windows and later on OS 2.1 when it
comes out. Any reccomendations appreciated.
-Eric
ebosco@us.oracle.com
|
5436 | From: rlennip4@mach1.wlu.ca (robert lennips 9209 U)
Subject: Re: PLANETS STILL: IMAGES ORBIT BY ETHER TWIST
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Lines: 2
Please get a REAL life.
|
5437 | Subject: Amplifiers and Speakers
From: krschimm@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (Karl Schimmel)
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks
Lines: 27
FOR SALE(of course)
Linear Power model 952 IQ
2 channel automotive stereo amplifier
95 watts peak per channel
2 ohm stable
fidelity tested
$100 You pay shipping
1 Pair (two (2)) Mobile Authority woofers
10 inch
2 inch voice coil
20 oz magnet
130 watt peak power handeling
4 ohms
$40 for both, you pay shipping (will not sell seperatly)
reply thru e-mail to:
Karl R. Schimmel
The Wichita State University
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%krschimm at twsuvax krschimm@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu %
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
|
5438 | From: hong@remus.rutgers.edu (Hyunki Hong)
Subject: VW Passat: advice sought
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Lines: 8
I am currently in the car market and would like opinions on a VW
Passat GLX. How does it compare to a Toyota Camry? I thought the car
looked very solid, stable and European. Only disappointment so far is
that that it doesn't offer an airbao my next question is, why isn't VW
offering automobiles with airbags? Should I pay the extra three
thousand for a BMW 318 is even though it is smaller and less powerful
than than the Passat?
|
5439 | Organization: University of Maine System
From: Ryan Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject: Re: DESIGNATED HITTER RULE
<1993Apr5.153407.19101@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>
Lines: 8
Actually, there can be any number of players on a side. You can
have a 25-man roster, a 40-man roster, etc....
Ryan Robbins
Penobscot Hall
University of Maine
IO20456@Maine.Maine.Edu
|
5440 | From: skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok)
Subject: Re: How often are SIMMs bad (mail order)?
Organization: Inst. f. Thermodynamik u. Waermetechnik (ITW), U. of Stuttgart, FRG
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de
Hi,
I got a glimpse from the other side, talking to the technician at the
place I recently bought my Mac from. The guy told me that they stopped
shipping SIMMs to their customers and only install them themselves -
those babies get zapped too easily by static electricity or so they
claim.
HSK
--
Sie singen das alte Entsagungslied, das Eiapopeia vom Himmel,
womit man beruhigt, wenn es greint, das Volk, den grossen Luemmel.
Ein neues Lied, ein besseres Lied, oh Freunde, will ich Euch dichten,
Wir wollen hier auf Erden schon das Himmelreich errichten. ... H. Heine
|
5441 | From: oser@fermi.wustl.edu (Scott Oser)
Subject: Re: DID HE REALLY RISE?
Organization: Washington University Astrophysics
Lines: 4
Frank, I got your mailing on early historical references to Christianity.
I'd like to respond, but I lost your address. Please mail me.
-Scott Oser
|
5442 | From: gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic)
Subject: Re: Aargh! Great Hockey Coverage!! (Devils)
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr18.203823.28597@news.columbia.edu>,
gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) wrote:
>
>
> Locked away, waiting for the tape-delay to start ...
>
> It's nice that the Devils are starting out their playoffs on network
> television ... too bad that their playoff game has been preempted on
> WABC-AM for an early-season Yankees baseball game!
>
> It's a 12-2 win by the Texas Rangers ... and they're delaying the
> tape-delay by another half-hour for the ballgame "highlights"!!!
>
You think that's bad? I'm in Bowling Green, OH, and we get ABC from
Toledo. Well, the cable co. decided to totally pre-empt the game (no tape
delay, no nothing) for a stupid telethon! Hockey is very big around here,
too. I had to listen to "my" Penguins win on my car radio out in the
parking lot. I can just be thankful for a strong radio because being 230
miles from Pittsburgh, the reception usually isn't good at all. I can't
believe I picked it up during the middle of the day.
George
|
5443 | From: nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines)
Subject: Re: Level 5?
In-Reply-To: 18084TM@msu.edu's message of Tue, 20 Apr 1993 21:37:55 GMT
Originator: nickh@SNOW.FOX.CS.CMU.EDU
Nntp-Posting-Host: snow.fox.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Distribution: sci
Lines: 50
In article <C5sy4s.4x2.1@cs.cmu.edu> 18084TM@msu.edu (Tom) writes:
Nick Haines sez;
>(given that I've heard the Shuttle software rated as Level 5 in
>maturity, I strongly doubt that this [having lots of bugs] is the case).
Level 5? Out of how many? What are the different levels? I've never
heard of this rating system. Anyone care to clue me in?
This is a rating system used by ARPA and other organisations to
measure the maturity of a `software process' i.e. the entire process
by which software gets designed, written, tested, delivered, supported
etc.
See `Managing the Software Process', by Watts S. Humphrey, Addison
Wesley 1989. An excellent software engineering text. The 5 levels of
software process maturity are:
1. Initial
2. Repeatable
3. Defined
4. Managed
5. Optimizing
The levels are approximately characterized as follows:
1. no statistically software process control. Have no statistical
basis for estimating how large software will be, how long it will
take to produce, how expensive it will be, or how reliable it will
be. Most software production is at this level.
2. stable process with statistical controls, rigorous project
management; having done something once, can do it again. Projects
are planned in detail, and there is software configuration
management and quality assurance.
3. The process is defined and understood, implementation is
consistent. This includes things like software inspection, a
rigorous software testing framework, more configuration management,
and typically a `software engineering process group' within the
project.
4. Statistical information on the software is systematically gathered
and analysed, and the process is controlled on the basis of this
information. Software quality is measured and has goals.
5. Defects are prevented, the process is automated, software contracts
are effective and certified.
Nick Haines nickh@cmu.edu
|
5444 | From: pan@panda.Stanford.EDU (Doug Pan)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
In-Reply-To: mossman@cea.Berkeley.EDU's message of 15 Apr 1993 19:41:40 GMT
Organization: InterViews/Allegro group, Stanford University
<1993Apr13.144340.3549@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
<1993Apr14.012946.114440@zeus.calpoly.edu>
<1993Apr14.122647.16364@tms390.micro.ti.com>
<1993Apr15.135941.16105@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
<1qkdpk$5k6@agate.berkeley.edu>
Lines: 26
In article <1qkdpk$5k6@agate.berkeley.edu> mossman@cea.Berkeley.EDU (Amy Mossman) writes:
> I had a similar reaction to Chinese food but came to a completly different
> conclusion. I've eaten Chinese food for ages and never had problems. I went
> with some Chinese Malaysian friends to a swanky Chinses rest. and they ordered
> lots of stuff I had never seen before. The only thing I can remember of that
> meal was the first course, scallops served in the shell with a soy-type sauce.
> I thought, "Well, I've only had scallops once and I was sick after but that
> could have been a coincidence". That night as I sat on the bathroom floor,
> sweating and emptying my stomach the hard way, I decided I would never touch
> another scallop. I may not be allergic but I don't want to take the chance.
I don't react to scallops, but did have discomforts with clam juice
served at (American) waterfront seafood bars. I don't know whether
the juice is homemade or from cans.
The following is my first encounter with the Chinese Restaurant
Syndrome. Ten years ago, about an hour after having Won Ton Soup I
collapsed in a chair with my face feeling puffed up, my scalp
tingling, my feet too weak to stand up. The symptoms lasted for about
20 minutes. Determined to find out the cause of my first reaction, I
went back to the Chinese restuarant and ordered the same dish. The
same thing happened. A quick look inside the kitchen revealed nothing
out of the ordinary.
I've also had a mild attack after having soup at a Thai restuarant.
|
5445 | From: Eastgate@world.std.com (Mark Bernstein)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 10
Al Weiss played second for the White Sox in the early sixties, chiefly as
back up to Don Buford. Good glove, no hit, some spunk.
(Which reminds me: do they still serve Kosher hot dogs at the new Comiskey?)
--
Mark Bernstein
Eastgate Systems, Inc. 134 Main Street Watertown MA 02172 USA
voice: (800) 562-1638 in USA +1(617) 924-9044
Eastgate@world.std.com Compuserve: 76146,262 AppleLink:Eastgate
|
5446 | From: richw@mks.com (Rich Wales)
Subject: Sick and tired (was Re: Bill Conklin (et al) 's letter)
Reply-To: richw@mks.com (Rich Wales)
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: na
Lines: 92
Replying to A.J. Teel:
Well, the two nifty letters giving concrete proof that the
Income Tax is voluntary and giving specific procedures for
stopping withholding, et cetera have been out there for a
while now.
Humbug. Those letters don't provide "concrete proof" of anything at all
in the absence of any case law that demonstrates the method will actu-
ally work for ordinary people in everyday situations.
Specifically, show us some case law in which the courts have ruled that
income tax is illegal and/or that ordinary working types do not have to
pay income tax (and that they can legally avoid paying income tax with-
out declaring themselves to be churches or some such silliness). This
issue is sufficiently important that I think we have a right to expect
something squarely on point from the US Supreme Court (in the case of
federal tax) or a state's supreme court (for a state's income tax).
Unless you can do that, I for one am unwilling to call your material
"concrete proof".
There has been no refutation to date. Have the nay-sayers
finally given up as defeated? Sure would like to hear their
reasons for disbelief at this point.
Refutation?? Refutation of what? You haven't made a case yet. You've
posted plenty of claims, but you haven't given us any valid reason to
believe that any court in the US will agree with you. Your claims seem
on the surface to deviate so radically from the legal mainstream that I
feel the burden of proof is still on =you= to show that your arguments
have any merit whatsoever. And the cases you've cited involve such
strange situations that I see no reason to assume that the rulings are
applicable to anyone else, or that they will ultimately stand on appeal
to the Supreme Court.
Why can't you just cite us a case in which Joe Schmoe, a regular
employee earning regular wages from a regular company, refuses to pay
his income tax, gets hauled into court, is convicted of wilful tax eva-
sion, and then has his conviction overturned by the US Supreme Court
with a landmark 7-2 majority ruling that income tax is indeed totally
voluntary? What, you say? No such case exists? Hmmm, I wonder why
not; why haven't you?
Shall I conclude that the point has been received and the
opposition has forfeited the field?
With all due respect, you can conclude anything you want. I just hope,
for your own sake, that you don't conclude that anyone in a position of
authority in the United States or any legitimate or illegitimate polit-
ical subdivision thereof is going to agree with your conclusions.
For that matter, I confess I'm thoroughly confused as to =why= you would
be looking for court rulings in your favor anyway -- since I thought you
told us earlier that every court in the US has been in cahoots with big
banking interests since the 1938 "admiralty jurisdiction" coverup thing.
Do you honestly expect us to believe that they'd go to all the trouble
to subvert the system, and yet would still promptly slink back into
their burrows in the face of anyone who knew enough to invoke the right
combination of magic spells and mystic mumbo-jumbo?
Not only that, but why do you even =care= what the US courts say anyway?
Didn't you tell us a while back that you've disavowed all attempts by US
officials to classify you as a "14th Amendment federal citizen"? When
the FBI comes to haul you away for tax evasion, why don't you just tell
them they're out of their jurisdiction and should go back to Washington,
D.C., where they belong?
Or maybe we should all just go back to mediaeval common law, which you
suggested would be better than all these statutes, codes, and the like.
If you want to renounce society's legal framework, fine; we can just
declare you an outlaw, OK?, and anyone who sees you driving on the roads
with no license plate on your car and no driver's license in your wallet
can just take you like a game animal and stew you for their supper (with
plenty of veggies and a pinch of salt, but WITHOUT PREJUDICE UCC 1-207).
Sorry, everyone, it's getting late, and I'm sick and tired of all this
garbage. If I know what's good for me, I'll just clam up and stop try-
ing to refute this nonsense, and if anyone falls for it and winds up in
jail for tax evasion or what-not, it'll be on their own head.
Needless to say, none of the above represents the opinions of my current
employer -- who, in any case, is a Canadian and doesn't really need to
care too much about US tax law. I, on the other hand, am a "14th Amend-
ment federal citizen", with a US passport to prove it, and plan to keep
on filing Form 1040's for the foreseeable future (though I will probably
not owe any US income tax due to the foreign earned income exclusion
and/or the foreign tax credit).
--
Rich Wales <richw@mks.com> // Mortice Kern Systems Inc. (MKS)
35 King St. N. // Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2J 2W9 // +1 (519) 884-2251
|
5447 | From: Dan Wallach <dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu>
Subject: FAQ: Typing Injuries (3/4): Keyboard Alternatives [monthly posting]
Supersedes: <typing-injury-faq/keyboards_732179032@cs.berkeley.edu>
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Expires: 22 May 1993 01:24:03 GMT
Reply-To: Dan Wallach <dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu
Summary: everything you ever wanted to know about replacing your keyboard
Originator: dwallach@elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu
Archive-name: typing-injury-faq/keyboards
Version: $Revision: 5.11 $ $Date: 1993/04/13 01:20:43 $
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Answers To Frequently Asked Questions about Keyboard Alternatives
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The Alternative Keyboard FAQ
Copyright 1992,1993 By Dan Wallach <dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu>
The opinions in here are my own, unless otherwise mentioned, and do not
represent the opinions of any organization or vendor.
[Current distribution: sci.med.occupational, sci.med, comp.human-factors,
{news,sci,comp}.answers, and e-mail to c+health@iubvm.ucs.indiana.edu,
sorehand@vm.ucsf.edu, and cstg-L@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu]
Changes since previously distributed versions are marked with change ||
bars to the right of the text, as is this paragraph. ||
Information in this FAQ has been pieced together from phone conversations,
e-mail, and product literature. While I hope it's useful, the information
in here is neither comprehensive nor error free. If you find something
wrong or missing, please mail me, and I'll update my list. Thanks.
All phone numbers, unless otherwise mentioned, are U.S.A. phone numbers.
All monetary figures, unless otherwise mentioned, are U.S.A. dollars.
Products covered in this FAQ:
Using a PC's keyboard on your workstation / compatibility issues
Apple Computer, Inc.
Key Tronic FlexPro
Dragon Systems
The Bat
DataHand
Comfort Keyboard System
Kinesis Ergonomic Keyboard
Maltron
The Tony! Ergonomic KeySystem
The Vertical
The MIKey
The Wave
The Minimal Motion Computer Access System
Twiddler
Half-QWERTY
Microwriter
Braille 'n Speak
Octima
AccuKey
GIF pictures of many of these products are available via anonymous ftp
from soda.berkeley.edu:pub/typing-injury. (128.32.149.19) I highly
recommend getting the pictures. They tell much more than I can fit
into this file.
If you can't ftp, send me mail, and I'll uuencode and mail them to you
(they're pretty big...)
==============
Using a PC's keyboard on your workstation / compatibility issues
Mini outline:
1. Spoofing a keyboard over the serial port
2. X terminals
3. NeXT
4. Silicon Graphics
5. IBM RS/6000
6. Other stuff
1. Spoofing a keyboard over the serial port
If you've got a proprietary computer which uses its own keyboard
(Sun, HP, DEC, etc.) then you're going to have a hard time finding
a vendor to sell you a compatible keyboard. If your workstation
runs the X window system, you're in luck. You can buy a cheap used
PC, hook your expensive keyboard up to it, and run a serial cable
to your workstation. Then, run a program on the workstation to read
the serial port and generate fake X keyboard events.
The two main programs I've found to do this are KT and A2X.
a2x is a sophisticated program, capable of controlling the mouse, and
even moving among widgets on the screen. It requires a server
extension (XTEST, DEC-XTRAP, or XTestExtension1). To find out if your
server can do this, run 'xdpyinfo' and see if any of these strings
appear in the extensions list. If your server doesn't have this,
you may want to investigate compiling X11R5, patchlevel 18 or later,
or bugging your vendor.
kt is a simpler program, which should work with unextended X servers.
Another program called xsendevent also exists, but I haven't seen it.
Both a2x and kt are available via anonymous ftp from soda.berkeley.edu.
2. X terminals
Also, a number of X terminals (NCD, Tektronics, to name a few) use
PC-compatible keyboards. If you have an X terminal, you may be all
set. Try it out with a normal PC keyboard before you go through the
trouble of buying an alternative keyboard. Also, some X terminals add
extra buttons -- you may need to keep your original keyboard around
for the once-in-a-blue-moon that you have to hit the Setup key.
3. NeXT
NeXT had announced that new NeXT machines will use the Apple Desktop
Bus, meaning any Mac keyboard will work. Then, they announced they
were cancelling their hardware production. If you want any kind of
upgrade for an older NeXT, do it now!
4. Silicon Graphics
Silicon Graphics has announced that their newer machines (Indigo^2 and
beyond) will use standard PC-compatible keyboards and mice. I don't
believe this also applies to the Power Series machines. It's not
possible to upgrade an older SGI to use PC keyboards, except by
upgrading the entire machine. Contact your SGI sales rep for more
details.
5. IBM RS/6000
IBM RS/6000 keyboards are actually similar to normal PC keyboards. ||
Unfortunately, you can't just plug one in. You need two things: a ||
cable converter to go from the large PC keyboard connector to the ||
smaller PS/2 style DIN-6, and a new device driver for AIX. Believe ||
it or not, IBM wrote this device driver recently, I used it, and it ||
works. However, they don't want me to redistribute it. I've been ||
told Judy Hume (512) 823-6337 is a potential contact. If you learn ||
anything new, please send me e-mail. ||
6. Other stuff
Some vendors here (notably: Health Care Keyboard Co. and AccuCorp)
support some odd keyboard types, and may be responsive to your
queries regarding supporting your own weird computer. If you can
get sufficient documention about how your keyboard works (either
from the vendor, or with a storage oscilloscope), you may be in
luck. Contact the companies for more details.
Apple Adjustable Keyboard
Apple Computer, Inc.
Sales offices all over the place.
Availability: February, 1993
Price: $219
Supports: Mac only
Apple has recently announced their new split-design keyboard. The
keyboard has one section for each hand, and the sections rotate
backward on a hinge. The sections do not tilt upward. The keys are
arranged in a normal QWERTY fashion.
The main foldable keyboard resembles a normal Apple Keyboard.
A separate keypad contains all the extended key functions.
The keyboard also comes with matching wrist rests, which are not
directly attachable to the keyboard.
As soon as soda comes back up, I'll have a detailed blurb from
TidBITS available there.
FlexPro Keyboard
Key Tronic
Phone: 800-262-6006
Possible contact: Denise Razzeto, 509-927-5299
Sold by many clone vendors and PC shops
Availability: Spring, 1993 (?)
Price: $489 (?)
Supports: PC only (highly likely)
Keytronic apparently showed a prototype keyboard at Comdex. It's
another split-design. One thumb-wheel controls the tilt of both
the left and right-hand sides of the main alphanumeric section.
The arrow keys and keypad resemble a normal 101-key PC keyboard.
Keytronic makes standard PC keyboards, also, so this product will
probably be sold through their standard distribution channels.
DragonDictate-30K (and numerous other Dragon products)
Dragon Systems, Inc.
320 Nevada Street
Newton, MA 02160
Phone: 800-TALK-TYP or 617-965-5200
Fax: 617-527-0372
Shipping: Now.
Price: DragonDictate-30K -- $4995 (end user system)
DragonWriter 1000 -- $1595 / $2495 (end user/developer system)
various other prices for service contracts, site licenses, etc.
Compatibility: 386 (or higher) PC only
(3rd party support for Mac)
Free software support for X windows is also available -- your
PC with Dragon hardware talks to your workstation over a
serial cable or network. The program is called a2x, and is
available via anonymous ftp:
soda.berkeley.edu:pub/typing-injury/a2x.tar.Z
export.lcs.mit.edu:contrib/a2x.tar.Z (most current)
If you want to use your Dragon product with X windows, you may want
to ask for Peter Cohen, an salesman at Dragon who knows more about
this sort of thing.
Dragon Systems sells a number of voice recognition products.
Most (if not all) of them seem to run on PC's and compatibles
(including PS/2's and other MicroChannel boxes). They sell you
a hardware board and software which sits in front of a number
of popular word processors and spreadsheets.
Each user `trains' the system to their voice, and there are provisions
to correct the system when it makes mistakes, on the fly. Multiple
people can use it, but you have to load a different personality file
for each person. You still get the use of your normal keyboard, too.
On the DragonDictate-30K you need to pause 1/10th sec between
words. Dragon claims typical input speeds of 30-40 words per minute.
I don't have specs on the DragonWriter 1000.
The DragonDictate-30K can recognize 30,000 words at a time.
The DragonWriter 1000 can recognize (you guessed it) 1000 words at a time.
Dragon's technology is also part of the following products
(about which I have no other info):
Microsoft Windows Sound System (Voice Pilot)
IBM VoiceType
Voice Navigator II (by Articulate Systems -- for Macintosh)
EMStation (by Lanier Voice Products -- "emergency medical workstation")
The Bat
old phone number: 504-336-0033
current phone number: 504-766-8082
Infogrip, Inc.
812 North Blvd.
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70802, U.S.A.
Ward Bond (main contact)
David Vicknair (did the Unix software) 504-766-1029
Shipping: Now.
Supports: Mac, IBM PC (serial port -- native keyboard port version
coming very soon...). No other workstations supported, but serial
support for Unix with X Windows has been written. PC and Mac are
getting all the real attention from the company.
A chording system. One hand is sufficient to type everything.
The second hand is for redundancy and increased speed.
Price:
$495 (dual set -- each one is a complete keyboard by itself)
$295 (single)
(cheaper prices were offered at MacWorld Expo as a show-special.)
DataHand 602-860-8584
Industrial Innovations, Inc.
10789 North 90th Street
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260-6727, U.S.A.
Mark Roggenbuck (contact)
Supports: PC and Mac
Shipping: In beta. "Big backlog" -- could take 3+ months.
Price: $2000/unit (1 unit == 2 pods). (new price!) ||
Each hand has its own "pod". Each of the four main fingers has five
switches each: forward, back, left, right, and down. The thumbs have
a number of switches. Despite appearances, the key layout resembles
QWERTY, and is reported to be no big deal to adapt to. The idea is
that your hands never have to move to use the keyboard. The whole pod
tilts in its base, to act as a mouse.
(see also: the detailed review, written by Cliff Lasser <cal@THINK.COM>
available via anonymous ftp from soda.berkeley.edu)
Comfort Keyboard System 414-253-4131
FAX: 414-253-4177
Health Care Keyboard Company
N82 W15340 Appleton Ave
Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin 53051 U.S.A.
Jeffrey Szmanda (Vice President -- contact)
Shipping: Now.
Supports: PC (and Mac???) ||
Planned future support:
IBM 122-key layout (3270-style, I believe)
Sun Sparc
Decision Data
Unisys UTS-40
Silicon Graphics
Others to be supported later. The hardware design is relatively
easy for the company to re-configure.
Price: $690, including one system "personality module". ||
The idea is that one keyboard works with everything. You purchase
"compatibility modules", a new cord, and possibly new keycaps, and
then you can move your one keyboard around among different machines.
It's a three-piece folding keyboard. The layout resembles the
standard 101-key keyboard, except sliced into three sections. Each
section is on a "custom telescoping universal mount." Each section
independently adjusts to an infinite number of positions allowing each
individual to type in a natural posture. You can rearrange the three
sections, too (have the keypad in the middle if you want). Each
section is otherwise normal-shaped (i.e.: you put all three sections
flat, and you have what looks like a normal 101-key keyboard).
Kinesis Ergonomic Keyboard 206-455-9220
206-455-9233 (fax)
Kinesis Corporation
15245 Pacific Highway South,
Seattle, Washington 98188, U.S.A.
Shirley Lunde (VP Marketing -- contact)
Shipping: Now.
Supports: PC. Mac and Sun Sparc in the works.
Price: $690. Volume discounts available. The $690 includes one foot
pedal, one set of adhesive wrist pads, and a TypingTutor program.
An additional foot pedal and other accessories are extra.
The layout has a large blank space in the middle, even though the
keyboard is about the size of a normal PC keyboard -- slightly
smaller. Each hand has its own set of keys, laid out to minimize
finger travel. Thumb buttons handle many major functions (enter,
backspace, etc.).
You can remap the keyboard in firmware (very nice when software won't
allow the reconfig).
Foot pedals are also available, and can be mapped to any key on the
keyboard (shift, control, whatever).
Maltron (+44) 081 398 3265 (United Kingdom)
P.C.D. Maltron Limited
15 Orchard Lane
East Molesey
Surrey KT8 OBN
England
Pamela and Stephen Hobday (contacts)
U.S. Distributor:
Jim Barrett
Applied Learning Corp.
1376 Glen Hardie Road
Wayne, PA 19087
Phone: 215-688-6866
Supports: PC's, Amstrad 1512/1640, BBC B, BBC Master,
Mac apparently now also available
Price: 375 pounds
$735 shipped in the U.S.A. (basically, converted price + shipping)
The cost is less for BBC computers, and they have a number of
accessories, including carrying cases, switch boxes to use both
your normal keyboard and the Maltron, an articulated arm that
clamps on to your table, and training 'courses' to help you learn
to type on your Maltron.
You can also rent a keyboard for 10 pounds/week + taxes.
U.S. price: $120/month, and then $60 off purchase if you want it.
Shipping: Now (in your choice of colors: black or grey)
Maltron has four main products -- a two-handed keyboard, two one-handed
keyboards, and a keyboard designed for handicapped people to control with
a mouth-stick.
The layout allocates more buttons to the thumbs, and is curved to
bring keys closer to the fingers. A separate keypad is in the middle.
AccuKey
AccuCorp, Inc.
P.O. Box 66
Christiansburg, VA 24073, U.S.A.
703-961-3576 (Pete Rosenquist -- Sales)
703-961-2001 (Larry Langley -- President)
Shipping: Now.
Supports: PC, Mac, IBM 3270, Sun Sparc, and TeleVideo 935 and 955.
Cost: $495 + shipping.
Doesn't use conventional push-keys. Soft rubber keys, which rock
forward and backward (each key has three states), make chords for
typing keys. Learning time is estimated to be 2-3 hours, for getting
started, and maybe two weeks to get used to it.
Currently, the thumbs don't do anything, although a thumb-trackball
is in the works.
The company claims it takes about a week of work to support a
new computer. They will be happy to adapt their keyboard to
your computer, if possible.
Twiddler 516-474-4405, or 800-638-2352
Handykey
141 Mt. Sinai Ave.
Mt. Sinai, NY 11766
Chris George (President)
Shipping: now.
Price: $199.
Supports: PC only. Mac and X Windows in the works.
The Twiddler is both a keyboard and a mouse, and it fits in one hand.
You type via finger chords. Shift, control, etc. are thumb buttons.
When in "mouse" mode, tilting the Twiddler moves the mouse, and mouse
buttons are on your fingers.
The cabling leaves your normal keyboard available, also.
Most applications work, and Windows works fine. DESQview has trouble.
GEOWorks also has trouble -- mouse works, keyboard doesn't.
Braille 'n Speak 301-879-4944
Blazie Engineering
3660 Mill Green Rd.
Street, Md 21154, U.S.A.
(information provided by Doug Martin <martin@nosc.mil>)
The Braille N Speak uses any of several Braille codes for entering
information: Grade I, Grade II, or computer Braille. Basically,
letters a-j are combinations of dots 1, 2, 4, and 5. Letters k-t are
the same combinations as a-j with dot 3 added. Letters u, v, x, y, and
z are like a-e with dots 3 and 6 added. (w is unique because Louis
Braille didn't have a w in the French alphabet.)
The Tony! Ergonomic KeySystem 415-969-8669
Tony Hodges
The Tony! Corporation
2332 Thompson Court
Mountain View, CA 94043, U.S.A.
Supports: Mac, PC, IBM 3270, Sun, and DEC.
Shipping: ???
Price: $625 (you commit now, and then you're in line to buy the
keyboard. When it ships, if it's cheaper, you pay the cheaper price.
If it's more expensive, you still pay $625)
The Tony! should allow separate positioning of every key, to allow
the keyboard to be personally customized. A thumb-operated mouse
will also be available.
The Vertical
Contact: Jeffrey Spencer or Stephen Albert, 619-454-0000
P.O. Box 2636
La Jolla, CA 92038, U.S.A.
Supports: no info available, probably PC's
Available: Summer, 1993
Price: $249
The Vertical Keyboard is split in two halves, each pointing straight up.
The user can adjust the width of the device, but not the tilt of each
section. Side-view mirrors are installed to allow users to see their
fingers on the keys.
The MIKey 301-933-1111
Dr. Alan Grant
3208 Woodhollow Drive
Chevy Chase, Maryland 20815, U.S.A.
Shipping: As of July, 1992: "Should be Available in One Year."
Supports: PC, Mac (maybe)
Price: $200 (estimated)
The keyboard is at a fixed angle, and incorporates a built-in mouse
operated by the thumbs. Function keys are arranged in a circle at
the keyboard's left.
The Wave (was: 213-) 310-644-6100
FAX: 310-644-6068
Iocomm International Technology
12700 Yukon Avenue
Hawthorne, California 90250, U.S.A.
Robin Hunter (contact -- in sales)
Cost: $99.95 + $15 for a set of cables
Supports: PC only.
Shipping: now.
Iocomm also manufactures "ordinary" 101-key keyboard (PC/AT) and
84-key keyboard (PC/XT), so make sure you get the right one.
The one-piece keyboard has a built-in wrist-rest. It looks *exactly*
like a normal 101-key PC keyboard, with two inches of built-in wrist
rest. The key switch feel is reported to be greatly improved.
The Minimal Motion Computer Access System 508-263-6437
508-263-6537 (fax)
Equal Access Computer Technology
Dr. Michael Weinreigh
39 Oneida Rd.
Acton, MA 01720, U.S.A.
Price: InfoGrip-compatible: "a few hundred dollars" + a one-handed Bat
For their own system: $300 (DOS software) + "a few hundred dollars"
Shipping: these are custom-made, so an occupational therapist would
make moulds/do whatever to make it for you. You can buy one now.
Supports: PC only, although the InfoGrip-compatible version might
work with a Mac.
In a one-handed version, there is exactly one button per finger. In a
two-handed version, you get four buttons per finger, and the thumbs
don't do anything. You can also get one-handed versions with three
thumb buttons -- compatible with the InfoGrip Bat. Basically, get it
any way you want.
They also have a software tutorial to help you learn the chording.
Works on a PC under DOS, not Windows. Planning on Macintosh and
PC/Windows support. No work has been done on a Unix version, yet.
Half-QWERTY (Canada) 416-749-3124
The Matias Corporation
178 Thistledown Boulevard
Rexdale, Ontario, Canada
M9V 1K1
E-mail: ematias@dgp.toronto.edu
Supports: Mac and PC (but, not Windows)
Demo for anonymous ftp: explorer.dgp.toronto.edu:/pub/Half-QWERTY ||
Price: $129.95 (higher in Canada, quantity discounts available)
Shipping: Now.
This thing is purely software. No hardware at all.
The software will mirror the keyboard when you hold down the space
bar, allowing you type one-handed.
Octima (Israel) 972-4-5322844
FAX: (+972) 3 5322970
Ergoplic Keyboards Ltd.
P.O. Box 31
Kiryat Ono 55100, Israel
(info from Mandy Jaffe-Katz <RXHFUN@HAIFAUVM.BITNET>)
A one-handed keyboard.
Microwriter AgendA (U.K.) (+44) 276 692 084
FAX: (+44) 276 691 826
Microwriter Systems plc
M.S.A. House
2 Albany Court
Albany Park
Frimley
Surrey GU15 2XA, United Kingdom
(Info from Carroll Morgan <Carroll.Morgan@prg.oxford.ac.uk>)
The AgendA is a personal desktop assistant (PDA) style machine. You
can carry it along with you. It has chording input. You can also
hook it up to your PC, or even program it.
It costs just under 200 pounds, with 128K memory.
===========
Thanks go to Chris Bekins <AS.CCB@forsythe.stanford.edu> for providing
the basis for this information.
Thanks to the numerous contributors:
Doug Martin <martin@nosc.mil>
Carroll Morgan <Carroll.Morgan@prg.oxford.ac.uk>
Mandy Jaffe-Katz <RXHFUN@HAIFAUVM.BITNET>
Wes Hunter <Wesley.Hunter@AtlantaGA.NCR.com>
Paul Schwartz <pschwrtz@cs.washington.edu>
H.J. Woltring <WOLTRING@NICI.KUN.NL>
Dan Sorenson <viking@iastate.edu>
Chris VanHaren <vanharen@MIT.EDU>
Ravi Pandya <ravi@xanadu.com>
Leonard H. Tower Jr. <tower@ai.mit.edu>
Dan Jacobson <Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM>
Jim Cheetham <jim@oasis.icl.co.uk>
Cliff Lasser <cal@THINK.COM>
Richard Donkin <richardd@hoskyns.co.uk>
Paul Rubin <phr@napa.Telebit.COM>
David Erb <erb@fullfeed.com>
Bob Scheifler <rws@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Chris Grant <Chris.Grant@um.cc.umich.edu>
Scott Mandell <sem1@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu>
and everybody else who I've probably managed to forget.
The opinions in here are my own, unless otherwise mentioned, and do not
represent the opinions of any organization or vendor.
--
Dan Wallach "One of the most attractive features of a Connection
dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu Machine is the array of blinking lights on the faces
Office#: 510-642-9585 of its cabinet." -- CM Paris Ref. Manual, v6.0, p48.
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5448 | From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: Hamza Salah, the Humanist
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Lines: 16
dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
>cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah) writes:
># Well said Mr. Beyer :)
>He-he. The great humanist speaks. One has to read Mr. Salah's posters,
>in which he decribes Jews as "sons of pigs and monkeys", keeps
>promising the "final battle" between Muslims and Jews (in which the
>stons and the trees will "cry for the Muslims to come and kill the
>Jews hiding behind them"), makes jokes about Jews dying from heart
>attacks etc, to realize his objective stance on the matters involved.
Humanist, or sub-humanist? :-)
--
Alan H. Stein astein@israel.nysernet.org
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5449 | From: clipper@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Clipper Chip Announcement)
Subject: Re: The [secret] source of that announcement
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology
Lines: 65
In article <C5uxGv.Dv7@panix.com> habs@panix.com (Harry Shapiro) writes:
>In <1r1om5$c5m@slab.mtholyoke.edu> jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
>writes:
>
>>Even more interesting: the SMTP server at csrc.ncsl.nist.gov no longer
>>recognizes the 'expn' and 'vrfy' commands...
>
>> telnet csrc.ncsl.nist.gov smtp
>> Trying 129.6.54.11...
>> Connected to csrc.ncsl.nist.gov.
>> Escape character is '^]'.
>> 220 first.org sendmail 4.1/NIST ready at Tue, 20 Apr 93 17:01:34 EDT
>> expn clipper
>> 500 Command unrecognized
>
>>Seems like sombody didn't like your snooping around, Marc.
>
>Then it is a good thing we already have this:
>
>The csspub mailing list: csspab@mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov, and address on
> [rest of names deleted]
Sigh... my version of 'rn' asked me whether I really want to send this
posting!
You may as well know that all this stuff about the secret source of the
Clipper announcement is because of a silly mistake. I am the administrator
of csrc.ncsl.nist.gov, alias first.org. It's a system set up to help out
the needs of FIRST, a Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams, which
includes a number of world-wide incident response teams such as CERT/CC and
other places in Europe. As to the VRFY and EXPN commands, they are normally
disabled, since early on we didn't want crackers to find out the names of
incident response folks on our mailing lists. We had a disk crash several
months ago which required completely rebuilding the O/S files - same old
story, our backups weren't especially helpful. As you can guess, I didn't
remember to re-disable VRFY and EXPN until I saw people on the net trying to
find out who was behind clipper@csrc... When I saw people's names posted
here, I felt it was time to clear things up. So, EXPN and VRFY on csrc have
always been disabled in the past for reasons having nothing to do with
Clipper.
I posted the White House announcements at the request of policy folks here
because csrc also provides Usenet service. I posted them from an account
called 'clipper.' I also created an alias called 'clipper' that contains
the addresses of members of the NIST Computer Security Privacy and Advisory
Board, set up under law of the Computer Security Act of 1987, and addresses
of other individuals not affiliated with NIST but involved in cryptography,
security, and privacy - I believe that these individuals were included on
this list because NIST felt it important to get them the Clipper information
first-hand.
The 'clipper' alias is there for the benefit of those named above. It is
not a source for information, it was set up solely to monitor any initial
traffic. Individuals on the list have requested that they continue to get
traffic that is not already duplicated on Usenet.
While you can rightfully say we were a bit disorganized in handling this,
I would ask that people stop speculating about any hidden agendas or motives
of the individuals on the 'clipper' alias - I've already apologized to them
for what's happened. Disabling EXPN and VRFY is an increasingly common
practice (albeit unfriendly to some), and any effect of disabling it again
was unintentional.
-John Wack
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5450 | From: gary@ioc.co.uk (Gary Phillips)
Subject: Re: Xt intrinsics: slow popups
Nntp-Posting-Host: ocelot.ioc.co.uk
Organization: Intelligent Office Company Ltd.
Lines: 26
In article <735525194.9026@minster.york.ac.uk>, cjhs@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> Bryan Boreham (bryan@alex.com) wrote:
> : In article <735259869.13021@minster.york.ac.uk>, cjhs@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> : > The application creates window with a button "Quit" and "Press me".
> : > The button "Press me" pops up a dialog box. The strange feature of
> : > this program is that it always pops up the dialog box much faster the
> : > first time. If I try to pop it up a 2nd time (3rd, 4th .... time),
> : > it is *much* slower.
> :
> : The shell is waiting for the window-manager to respond to its
> : positioning request. The window-manager is not responding because
> : it thinks the window is already in the right place.
> :
> : Exactly *why* the two components get into this sulk is unclear to
> : me; all information greatly received.
The only time I've seen similar behaviour is when an X application forked a child
without setting close on exec on the X display connection file descriptor.
The shell waited for a ConfigureNotify event that never arrived because it got
picked up by the child. Sometimes the shell correctly got the ConfigureNotify if
the timing was 'right'.
--
Gary Phillips | Email: gary@ioc.co.uk
Phone: +44 81 528 9864 | phones@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: +44 81 528 9878 |
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5451 | From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Subject: How to make simplest possible composite widget?
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Lines: 33
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202
Not being an Xt programmer by any stretch of the imagination, this is
driving me crazy and it's probably really simple to do.
I need to make a composite widget that does nothing at all but is
merely a placeholder in a widget instance heirarchy -- allowing me an
additional resource name level.
To illustrate I have an application with the following widget
heirarchy:
Shell Widget
|
Application Widghet
I want the following:
Shell Widget
|
Intermediate Widget
|
Application Widget
where the intermediate widget has a name but gets all its other
properties (and propagates down new values) from the shell widget.
I assume there's a simple way to do this but I can't find an example
and the documentation I have is rather vague about implementing
composite widgets.
Please respond via email. Any help will be very much appreciated.
jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
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5452 | From: aa888@freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Baker)
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Reply-To: aa888@freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Baker)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 58
In a previous article, dleonar@andy.bgsu.edu (Pixie) says:
> Do the words "Question Authority" mean anything to you?
>
> I defy any theist to reply.
Well, despite what my mother told me about accepting dares, here goes.
You have to be very careful about what you mean by "question authority".
Taken literally, it is nonsense. That which is authoratative is authoratative,
and to say "I question to word of this authority" is ridiculous. If it is
open to question, it isn't an authority. On the other hand, it is perfectly
reasonable to question whether something is an authority. The catch phrase
here should be "authenticate authority." Once you have authenticated
your authority, you must believe what it says, or you are not treating it as
an authority.
The difficulty is that authenticating an authority is not easy. You
can perhaps discredit a claim to authority by showing logical inconsistency
in what it teaches, or by showing that it does not obey its own rules of
discourse. But the fact that I cannot discredit something does not, in
inself, accredit it. (Nor does the fact that I can convince myself and
other that I have discredited something necessarilly mean that it is false.)
I cannot accredit an authority by independantly verifying its teachings,
because if I can independantly verify its teachings, I don't need an
authority. I need an authority only when there is information I need which
I cannot get for myself. Thus, if I am to authenticate an authority, I must
do it by some means other than by examining its teachings.
In practical matters we accept all kinds of authorities because we don't
have time to rediscover fundamental knowledge for ourselves. Every scientist
woring today assumes, on the authority of the scintific community, all sorts
of knowledge which is necessary to his work but which he has not time to
verify for himself.
In spiritual matters, we accept authority because we have no direct source
ofinformation. We select our authorities based on various criteria. (I am
a Catholic, in part, because the historical claims of the RC church seem
the strongest.) Without authorities there would be no subject matter for
belief, unless we simply made something up for ourselves (as many do).
The atheist position seems to be that there are no authorities. This is a
reasonable assertion in itself, but it leads to a practical difficulty.
If you reject all authority out of hand, you reject all possibility of
every receiving information. Thus the atheist position can never possibly
change. It is non-falsifiable and therefore unscintific.
To demand scintific or rational proof of God's existence, is to deny
God's existence, since neither science, nor reason, can, in their very
nature, prove anything.
--
==============================================================================
Mark Baker | "The task ... is not to cut down jungles, but
aa888@Freenet.carleton.ca | to irrigate deserts." -- C. S. Lewis
==============================================================================
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5453 | From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Subject: Re: Shaft-drives and Wheelies
Distribution: rec
Lines: 18
Nntp-Posting-Host: able.mkt.3com.com
xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>Is it possible to do a "wheelie" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive?
No, it's not possible to countersteer either.
(for the humor impared :{P PPhhhhhtttttt!)
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5454 | From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Lines: 85
04/16/93 1045 ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
By David Ljunggren
MOSCOW, April 16, Reuter - Armenia accused Turkey on Friday of flying weapons
x and troops across Armenian airspace to Azerbaijan and strongly hinted it
might try to shoot the planes down, local journalists in Yerevan said.
Separately, Itar-Tass news agency said Armenian forces had halted their latest
offensive which has swallowed up one-tenth of Azerbaijan and sent tensions in
the Transcaucasian region soaring.
The journalists in the Armenian capital quoted Armen Duliyan, head of the
Armenian defence ministry press centre, as saying Ankara had been sending
planes up to 15 times a day to Azerbaijan with arms and troops.
It looks as though the Armenian leadership will have to warn Turkey about
the impermissibility of such actions," the journalists quoted Duliyan as
saying.
"If such steps are pursued in the future we will have recourse to appropriate
measures. We have all the necessary means, including modern anti-aircraft
units."
Turkey, which shares a border with Armenia, has supported Azerbaijan in the
conflict over the mainly Armenian-populated Nagorno-Karabakh region in which
more than 2,500 people have been killed since fighting erupted in 1988.
The Turkish foreign ministry said on Friday it had so far sent one plane to
Azerbaijan containing humanitarian aid.
A Turkish foreign ministry spokesman on Thursday would not comment directly
on a report by Hurriyet newspaper that a first consignment of rockets, rocket
launchers, ammunition and light weapons had arrived in Azerbaijan from Turkey.
Duliyan said Turkey had been sending up to 30 trucks a day carrying troops
and arms to the bordering Azeri autonomous territory of Nakhichevan, from where
they were flown across Armenian airspace to the Azeri capital Baku.
"All the responsibility for possible consequences will be borne by the
country which is affording military assistance over our airspace," he said.
Armenia denies any formal role in the conflict, saying that the troops
involved in the fighting are from the enclave itself.
Tass said the Karabakh forces decided on Friday to suspend their offensive
along the entire Armenian-Azerbaijani front.
"The Karabakh authorities are reportedly ready to give independent
inspectors a chance to see for themselves on the spot that the (enclave's)
leadership is striving to achieve a ceasefire," the agency said.
Armenian President Levon Ter-Petrosyan called for a two-stage ceasefire in
Karabakh when he arrived in the Belarus capital Minsk on Friday for a summit of
Commonwealth leaders.
"The first stage of the settlement should involve a ceasefire and securing the
protection of the Karabakh population," Tass quoted him as saying.
At least 10 ceasefires have been brokered in the conflict but all have
collapsed.
"The second stage should involve discussing and finding a solution to the
legal issues: that is, a clarification of the status of Nagorno-Karabakh," he
said. The republic declared full independence last year but the move has not
been recognised by any other country.
Armenia insists that a separate Karabakh delegation should take part in future
peace talks, something Azerbaijan rejects.
Local news agencies in Baku said on Friday that Interior Minister Iskender
Gamidov, a fiery nationalist and hardliner in the territorial dispute with
Armenia, had resigned.
Turan news agency said he quit on Thursday and had cleared his office.
Khabar-Servis agency said he would be replaced by the military commandant of
Baku, police Major-General Abdullah Allakhverdiyev. There was no official
confirmation.
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
|
5455 | From: prg@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Pete Green)
Subject: Wanted: Advice/comments on building a PC
Distribution: uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Lines: 14
In the next few months I am intending to build a 386 or 486 PC system
for remote monitoring. I would welcome any comments or advice you may
have on the choice of motherboard, HDDs and I/O boards. Recommendations
for good companies selling these would be a big help.
Many thanks,
Peter Green.
--
Peter R. Green ------- Tel:+44 61 200 4738 ---- Fax:+44 61 200 4019 -----------
JANET: prg@uk.ac.mcc.nessie INTERNET: prg%nessie.mcc.ac.uk
----------------------- #include <std.disclaimers> ----------------------------
|
5456 | From: jose@csd.uwo.ca (Jose Thekkumthala)
Subject: recurrent volvulus
Organization: Department of Computer Science, UWO, Canada
Keywords: volvulus
Nntp-Posting-Host: berfert.csd.uwo.ca
Lines: 35
Recurrent Volvulus
-------------------
This is regarding recurrent volvulus which our little boy
has been suffering from ever since he was an infant. He had
a surgery when he was one year old. Another surgery had
to be performed one year after, when he was two years old.
He turned three this February and he is still getting
afflicted by this illness, like having to get hospitalised
for vomitting and accompanying stomach pain.He managed
not having a third surgery so far.
* One thing me and my wife noticed is that his affliction
peaks around the time he was born, on nearabouts, like in
March every year. Any significance to this?
* Why does this recur? Me and my family go through severe pain
when our little boy have to undergo surgery. Why does surgery
not rectify the situation?
* Also, which hospital in US or Canada specialize in this malady?
* What will be a good book explaining this disease in detail?
* Will keeping a particular diet keep down the probability of
recurrence?
* As time goes on, will the probability of recurrence go down
considering he is getting stronger and healthier and probably
less prone to attacks? Or is this assumption wrong?
* Any help throwing light on these queries will be highly appreciated.
Thanks very much!
jose@csd.uwo.ca
|
5457 | From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: [soc.motss, et al.] "Princeton axes matching funds for Boy Scouts"
Article-I.D.: unix.C52Cw7.I6t
Organization: Blasny Blasny, Consolidated (Amherst, MA Offices)
Lines: 37
In article <1993Apr6.041343.24997@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) writes:
>Roger and I have
>clearly stated our support of the BSA position on the issue;
>specifically, that homosexual behavior constitutes a violation of
>the Scout Oath (specifically, the promise to live "morally straight").
>
>There is really nothing else to discuss.
Apparently not.
In response to his claim that it "terrifies" gay people not to be able
to "indoctrinate children to our lifestyle" (or words to that effect),
I sent Roger a very calm, carefully-written, detailed letter
explaining simply why the BSA policy does, indeed terrify me. I did
not use inflammatory language and left myself extremely open for an
answer. Thus far, I have not received an answer. I can conclude only
that Roger considers his position either indefensible or simply not
worth defending.
>Trying to cloud the issue
>with comparisons to Blacks or other minorities is also meaningless
>because it's like comparing apples to oranges (i.e., people can't
>control their race but they can control their behavior).
In fact, that's exactly the point: people can control their behavior.
Because of that fact, there is no need for a blanket ban on
homosexuals.
>What else is there to possibly discuss on rec.scouting on this issue?
You tell me.
--
____ Tim Pierce / ?Usted es la de la tele, eh? !La madre
\ / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu / del asesino! !Ay, que graciosa!
\/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / -- Pedro Almodovar
|
5458 | From: kens@lsid.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Subject: Re: GGRRRrrr!! Cages double-parking motorcycles pisses me off!
Article-I.D.: hpscit.1qkomb$c22
Distribution: world
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: labkas.lsid.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.10]
Reading all you folks things to do to illegally parked cars made me
wonder who's going to carry cinder blocks on a bike(?!?!?) or is
ready to do serious damage (key carvings etc.) to a cage. Then I
had an idea--chain lube isn't just for chain's anymore!!! It seems
more reasonable to me, no permanent damage but lots of work to get
off! (Don't ask me how I know :) Use it anywhere, the windshield,
the door handles, in the keyhole, etc. What a nasty mood I'm in.
It's raining again...
_______________________ K _ E _ N ____________________________
| |
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| 8600 Soper Hill Road gte/tn: (206) 335-2253 / 335-2253 |
| Everett, WA 98205-1298 un-ix : kens@lsid.hp.com |
|______________________________________________________________|
|
5459 | From: garrod@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (David Garrod)
Subject: Haiti AIDS/HIV IMMIGRANTS
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Lines: 23
In case you missed it on the news....the first 16 Haitians
of many that tested positive for HIV and were being held on a
base in Cuba have been flown to the U.S.
Further a U.S. judge has ruled that they must receive
medical treatment or be returned to a place where they could
receive same.
So guess what folks, we taxpayers get to pick up the tab
(just as you might have expected) for people who have never
contributed a dime to the U.S. society.
I think this government has its priorities ALL SCREWED UP.
If they want to help Haitians....how about removing the illegal
government, how about giving them development aid?
IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE to waste resources on dying non-citizens
who will never be productive in either this country or their own.
It does not make sense when the same resources applied or even
just plain given to poor people in Haiti could significantly
help 100 people in Haiti per 1 AIDS-infected non-citizen immigrant.
|
5460 | From: yoony@aix.rpi.edu (Young-Hoon Yoon)
Subject: Re: JFFO has gone a bit too far
Nntp-Posting-Host: aix.rpi.edu
Distribution: usa
Lines: 29
rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat) writes:
>|>Would somebody please post evidence that the gun control act of
>|>1968 is "a verbatim transcription" of a nazi law?
>|The "evidence" is that the two laws are basically identical.
>|However, that's not evidence that one is a copy of the other.
>|There's no evidence that the 68 GCA's authors used the nazi law as a
>|guide. Yes, they ended up with roughly the same thing, but that comes
>|from their shared goal, disarming those menacing minorities.
>I thought the same thing too, until JPFO's RKBA article
>in the latest Guns & Ammo
>at the newstands. This article makes it certain that Sen. Thomas Dodd
>(D-MD?) back before 1968 definitely asked for a translation of the
>German weapons laws back then. Read the article, and see what you think
>of JPFO's argument. They note that Ted Kennedy and John Dingell are
>among the three of the originals left from the 1968 stuff, and they
>are asking that folks request of John Dingell that he introduce
>legislation to lift GCA '68, something which I would support whole-
>heartedly!
>|-andy
Can someone post a general idea of what GCA '68 does?
Thanks.
|
5461 | From: keith@hydra.unm.edu ()
Subject: Where can I AFFORD a Goldwing mirror?
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Lines: 9
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.unm.edu
Searched without luck for a FAQ here. I need a left 85 Aspencade
mirror and Honda wants $75 for it. Now if this were another piece
of chrome to replace the black plastic that wings come so liberally
supplied with I might be able to see that silly price, but a mirror
is a piece of SAFETY EQUIPMENT. The fact that Honda clearly places
concern for their profits ahead of concern for my safety is enough
to convince me that this (my third) wing will likely be my last.
In the mean time, anyboby have a non-ripoff source for a mirror?
keith smith keith@hydra.unm.edu
|
5462 | From: jschief@finbol.toppoint.de (Joerg Schlaeger)
Subject: Re: difference between VLB and ISA/EISA
Distribution: world
Organization: myself
Lines: 24
hurley@epcot.spdc.ti.com writes in article <1993Apr14.090534.6892@spdc.ti.com>:
>
> What about VLB and a 486dx50. Does the local bus still run at 33Mhz or does
> it try to run at 50Mhz???
>
>
> Brian
>
>
Hi,
VLB is defined for 3 cards by 33MHz
and 2 cards by 40MHz
there are designs with 50MHz and 2 VLB-Slots.
(s. C't 9.92, 10.92, 11.92)
50MHz and 2 Slots are realy difficult to design.
Better OSs (OS/2 & iX) are able to handle more than 16MB of DRAM,
if you use EISA-Bus.
Has someone experience with VLB ??
I think of SCSI-VLB-Busmaster. The problem is the 16bit Floppy DMA
controller, which is unable to reach more than 16MB.
Joerg
|
5463 | From: Wayne Alan Martin <wm1h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Help with ultra-long timing
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 7
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <1pqk9b$ib4@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au>
Sounds like a job for a universal time reciever. I don't know the
logisitics of the situation, but if you could just place a reciever in
snow and place the oscillator in a nice lab somewhere else, your
problems should be solved.
Just a suggestion.
Wayne Martin
|
5464 | From: wil@shell.portal.com (Ville V Walveranta)
Subject: Re: Digitizing tablet questions
Nntp-Posting-Host: jobe
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 15
Rithea Hong (r0h7630@tamuts.tamu.edu) wrote:
: I'm in the market for all small (12x12 or so) digitizing tablet and would
: like any comments. The main names I see are Calcomp, Summagraphics, and
: Kurta. What are the major differences? Any particular preference? Also
: what should I look for and what should I avoid? Thanks for any input
: you can provide.
: Rithea Hong
: (r0h7630@tamuts.tamu.edu)
--
* Ville V. Walveranta Tel./Fax....: (510) 420-0729 ****
** 96 Linda Ave., Apt. #5 From Finland: 990-1-510-420-0729 ***
*** Oakland, CA 94611-4838 (FAXes automatically recognized) **
**** USA Email.......: wil@shell.portal.com *
|
5465 | From: leo@cae.wisc.edu (Leo Lim)
Subject: DOS6 - doublespace + stacker 3.0, is it okay?
Article-I.D.: doug.1993Apr6.133257.14570
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin--Madison
Lines: 7
Just as the title suggest, is it okay to do that?
I havne't got DOS6 yet, but I heart DoubleSpace is less tight than stacker 3.0.
What are disadvantage/advantages by doing that?
Any comments will be appreciated.
===Martin
|
5466 | From: george@ccmail.larc.nasa.gov (George M. Brown)
Subject: QC/MSC code to view/save images
Organization: Client Specific Systems, Inc.
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: thrasher.larc.nasa.gov
Dear Binary Newsers,
I am looking for Quick C or Microsoft C code for image decoding from file for
VGA viewing and saving images from/to GIF, TIFF, PCX, or JPEG format. I have
scoured the Internet, but its like trying to find a Dr. Seuss spell checker
TSR. It must be out there, and there's no need to reinvent the wheel.
Thanx in advance.
//////////////
The Internet is like a Black Hole....
|
5467 | From: hambidge@bms.com
Subject: Re: I believe in gun control.
Reply-To: hambidge@bms.com
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb
Lines: 17
In article <C4vG3F.Kx3@apollo.hp.com>, nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
> cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes:
>>I believe in gun control. How about you?
>
> I believe in gun control, too . . . assuming by "gun control"
> you mean always being able to hit your target.
>
>
>---peter
>
Or, how about the Clint Eastwood line in "Pink Cadillac" -
"I believe in gun control. If there's a gun around, I wanna be
the one controlling it."
Al
[standard disclaimer]
|
5468 | From: 235wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Subject: VGA Passthrough Cables!
Organization: Western Michigan University
Lines: 14
Does anyone know the phone number to a place where i can get
a VGA passthrough?
I want to hook up my VGA card to my XGA card (whcih you can can).
All I need is the cable that connects them. It is the same type of
cable that you would connect from your VGA card to say a Video Blaster
or something.
Thanks.
-Brad
|
5469 | From: bill@west.msi.com (Bill Poitras)
Subject: Re: Regression Testing and X
Reply-To: bill@msi.com
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 17
Megan Grenenger (megan@cs.uq.oz.au) wrote:
: I'd appreciate any feedback on capture/playback tools for use with X clients.
: Any comparisons/comments on regression testing tools would be great -
: particularly XTM, XRunner, Autotester, and SRI's CAPBAK, SMARTS and EXDIFF.
How about starting where I could find ANY of these. For the commercial
ones, at least a phone number would be appreciated.
--
+-------------------+----------------------------+------------------------+
| Bill Poitras | Molecular Simulations Inc. | Tel (617)229-9800 |
| bill@msi.com | Burlington, MA 01803-5297 | FAX (617)229-9899 |
+-------------------+----------------------------+------------------------+
|FTP Mail |mail ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com | Offers:ftp via email |
| |Subject:<CR>help<CR>quit | |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|
5470 | From: tcking@uswnvg.com (Tim King)
Subject: Gateway 2000 & booting from floppy
Organization: Ground Zero
Lines: 17
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
I have a Gateway 4DX-33V with my 3.5 inch floppy as drive A. I
accidentally discovered that if a have a floppy from ONE particular
box of diskettets in the A drive when I boot up, rather than getting
the "Non-system diskette" message, the machine hangs and the CMOS
gets overwritten (luckily, Gateway sends a print of the standard
CMOS settings with their systems). This only happens with a box
of pre-formatted Fuji disks that I have, no other disks cause this
problem. If I re-format one of the Fuji disks, the problem goes away.
I did a virus scan (scan v1.02) of the disks and found nothing.
Anyone have any idea what is going on here? Hardware problem? A
virus that can't be detected? The system reading in garbage from
the boot sector?
--
Tim King, tcking@uswnvg.com
|
5471 | From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: The [secret] source of that announcement
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Lines: 12
In article <1r3hgqINNdaa@uwm.edu> Rick Miller <rick@ee.uwm.edu> writes:
>jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
>>Seems like sombody didn't like your snooping around, Marc.
>
>Or, the more *likely* explanation is that Marc is spoofing.
While I didn't try the expansion personally, I know of at least two
other people who did and got the same results. Your allegation is
incorrect at best.
PGP 2 key by finger or e-mail
Eli ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
|
5472 | From: gjp@sei.cmu.edu (George Pandelios)
Subject: Re: Washington To Beat Pitt
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Lines: 35
In article <1993Apr14.185059.27513@ncsu.edu>, fmsalvat@eos.ncsu.edu (FRANK MICHAE SALVATORE) writes:
|>
|>
|>
|> >
|> > What makes you think so? I'd like to understand your reasoning.
|> > From my seat, the Caps don't really appear to believe that they can
|> > defeat Pittsburgh. Therefore, they don't. I think their spirit was
|> > broken in last year's playoffs and hasn't really recovered. I don't know
|> > what the season series numbers were, but I believe that the Pens won it.
|> > I think that either the Devils or the Islanders will cause more problems for
|>
|>
|> What is this spirit crap? I'm a Caps fan and hope they win
|> if they end up facing Pittsburgh,
|> but I don't think the Caps lose to Pitt because of lack
|> of spirit. Yes, the Penguins won the season series against the
|> Caps. They've won eighteen games in a row for God's sake.
|> Did you ever think the Penguins might be good, and that's
|> why they win?
I re-read what I wrote and it didn't say exactly what I thought.
Sure the Pens are a better team. They've got size and the best skill players
in the league. They've also got the best clutch goaltending. They're the
best team in the league.
But, my point was the Caps have not played to their ability level vs the
Pens since last year's choke. And that's the mental problem (the one they've
had for a number of years) I tried to point out. Spirit, mental preparedness,
will to win, whatever you want to call it, it's missing when the Caps play the
Pens. Actually, you're right - it won't make any difference.
George
|
5473 | From: aafc6@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nightline)
Subject: Editres under Pie(TVT)wm
Keywords: editres twm failure
Organization: University of Sussex at Brighton
Lines: 14
Hi, looking for any advice or suggestions about a problem I'm
having with MIT X11R5's editres, in particular under twm variants.
For a start, 9 times out of 10 (but NOT always) editres won't
grab a widget tree when running on our NCD (Decwindows) Xterms,
which I'm told will be fixed when the R5 (not R4) XDm is installed.
OK, so I tried running it on a Sun, running real R5, on the same
network - I get a widget tree, but it's ALWAYS for 'TWM Icon Manager'
Anybody know of any patches for (a) twm or (b) editres that I should
look at?
Thanks,
K
|
5474 | From: tichauer@valpso.hanse.de (Manfredo Tichauer)
Subject: Re: Israeli Terrorism
Organization: "The Private Site of Manfredo Tichauer"
Lines: 16
backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
> In article <1rd7eo$1a4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cy779@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ana
> Anas, of course ! The YAHUD needed blood for the matza. After all, Passover
> *was* last month :-)
^^^^^^^^^^
Josh, were you in such a hurry? WE celebrated Pesach THIS month, but only
with Xtian blood! Muslim blood hasn't been declared "Kosher le Pesach" by
our Hechscher (not yet) :-) :-)
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Opitzstrasse 14 VOICE : (++ 49 40) 27.42.27
2000 Hamburg 60 - GERMANY FAX : (++ 49 40) 270.53.09
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|
5475 | From: gay@selkirk.sfu.ca (Ian D. Gay)
Subject: Re: Can I Change "Licensed To" Data in Windows 3.1?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Lines: 10
kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla) writes:
[stuff about changing windows registration omitted]
>the damned thing anyway. This technique should work with just about
>any obnoxious corporate product that tries to write to the original
>floppies when you install; in some extreme cases you may not be able
Huh??? My copy of win 3.1 came on _permanently_ write-protected
diskettes. (No sliding tabs).
|
5476 | From: Gregory.Park@dartmouth.edu (Gregory Park)
Subject: ROLAND JUNO-60 SYNTHESIZER*UNIDEN RADAR DETECTOR 4 SALE
X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0b15@dartmouth.edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Lines: 10
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SOUND. USED IN THE SONG "JUMP" BY VAN HALEN. $300 OR BEST OFFER
UNIDEN RD-9XL RADAR DETECTOR- EXCELLENT CONDITION. DON'T BE CAUGHT BY
THE COPS! $50 OR BEST OFFER! SMALLER THAN A CREDIT CARD. COMPACT!
FOR THE KEYBOARD EMAIL GREG.PARK@DARTMOUTH.EDU
FOR THE RADAR EMAIL RICH.LEE@DARTMOUTH.EDU
CIAO.
|
5477 | From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Subject: Re: X-server multi screen
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Lines: 42
In article <1qlop6$sgp@sun3.eeam.elin.co.at>, rainer@sun3.eeam.elin.co.at (Rainer Hochreiter) writes:
> I've seen a lot of different terms, which seem to mean the same
> thing. Who can give an exact definition what these terms mean:
> -) multi-screen
> -) multi-headed
> -) multi-display
> -) X-Server zaphod mode
As applied to servers, the first three are fuzzy terms. "multi-headed"
tends to be used for any system with multiple monitors, sometimes even
multiple screens even if they're multiplexed onto the same monitor (eg,
a Sun with a cg4 display). "multi-screen" and "multi-display" would,
if taken strictly, mean different things, but since the strict meaning
of "multi-display" would refer to a system with multiple keyboards and
pointers, when it's used it probably refers to the same thing
"multi-screen" would: a system that provides multiple Screens.
"zaphod" is a term applied to the way the MIT server switches the
pointer from one screen to another by sliding it off the side of the
screen.
> Is there a limit how many screens/displays a single server can handle
> (in an articel a read something about an upper limit of 12) ?
There is a protocol limitation that restricts a given Display to at
most 255 Screens. I know of no server that handles multiple Displays
on a single invocation, unless possibly my kludges to the R4 server can
be looked upon as such; on a TCP-based system there is necessarily a
limit of 65535 Displays per machine, but this is not a limitation
inherent to X.
What you read was most likely talking about a limit in some particular
implementation (probably the MIT one). If it claimed there was a limit
of 12 inherent to X, the author of the article had no business writing
about X.
der Mouse
mouse@mcrcim.mcgill.edu
|
5478 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Armenian scholars on the extermination of 2.5 million Muslim people.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 288
In article <735251412@amazon.cs.duke.edu> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Eduard Wiener) writes:
> Why don't you post this in English, Mike?
> This appears to mean -- "Milan, it seems that
> some Greek has fucked you."
Is that what turns you on? The truth needs to be told over and over
again. There are Armenians who of course witnessed the Armenian genocide
of 2.5 million Muslim people between 1914-1920 but their voices of truth
are suppressed today in the hollow din of anti-Turkish/Muslim campaign
by the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle of the fascist
x-Soviet Armenian Government. Well, that is what I saw in the library.
What's your problem with this?
Source: K. S. Papazian, "Patriotism Perverted," Baikar Press, Boston, 1934.
pp. 17-18.
"It seems that terrorism against their own co-nationals has been a prominent
part of the revolutionary activities of the Dashnag leaders of the Caucasus.
Organized to fight the Turks, these chieftains have been more successful
in their fight against their Armenian opponents in Turkey, and the Caucasus,
very often defenseless and innocent."
p. 38.
"The fact remains, however, that the leaders of the Turkish Armenian section
of the Dashnagtzoutune did not carry out their promise of loyalty to the
Turkish cause when the Turks entered the war...and a call was sent for
Armenian volunteers to fight the Turks on the Caucasian front."
p. 38.
"Thousands of Armenians from all over the world, flocked to the standards of
such famous fighters as Antranik, Kery, Dro, etc. The Armenian volunteer
regiments rendered valuable service to the Russian Army in the years of
1914-15-16."
Source: "Adventures in the Near East, 1918-1922" by A. Rawlinson,
Jonathan Cape, 30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923)
(287 pages).
(Memoirs of a British officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5
million Muslim people)
p. 184 (second paragraph)
"I had received further very definite information of horrors that
had been committed by the Armenian soldiery in Kars Plain, and as
I had been able to judge of their want of discipline by their
treatment of my own detached parties, I had wired to Tiflis from
Zivin that 'in the interests of humanity the Armenians should not
be left in independent command of the Moslem population, as, their
troops being without discipline and not under effective control,
atrocities were constantly being committed, for which we should
with justice eventually be held to be morally responsible'."
p. 177 (third paragraph)
"Armenian troops, who, having pillaged and destroyed all the
Moslem villages in the plain...."
"Caravans of refugees were in the meanwhile constantly arriving from the
plain, from which the whole Moslem population was fleeing with as much of
their personal property as they could transport, seeking to obtain security
and protection..."
p. 178 (first paragraph)
"In those Moslem villages in the plain below which had been searched
for arms by the Armenians everything had been taken under the cloak of
such search, and not only had many Moslems been killed, but horrible
tortures had been inflicted in the endeavour to obtain information as
to where valuables had been hidden, of which the Armenians were aware
of the existence, although they had been unable to find them."
p. 179 (first paragraph)
"Shortly afterwards the head of the miserable column appeared. There
were in all about 200 persons, mostly old men and women and children,
with a few ox-carts, ponies, and donkeys, carrying all their worldly
possessions, except a few sheep that they were driving before them.
Their leader interviewed Bekir Bey, and was told to keep farther on
into the hills, where he would be able to cross the frontier into
Turkey unmolested by his enemies."
p. 181 (first paragraph)
"the Armenians from the plain were attacking the Kurdish line with
artillery, with probably a large force in support."
p. 175 (first paragraph)
"The arrival of this British brigade was followed by the announcement
that Kars Province had been allotted by the Supreme Council of the
Allies to the Armenians, and that announcement having been made, the
British troops were then completely withdrawn, and Armenian occupation
commenced. Hence all the trouble; for the Armenians at once commenced
the wholesale robbery and persecution of the Muslem population on the
pretext that it was necessary forcibly to deprive them of their arms.
In the portion of the province which lies in the plains they were able
to carry out their purpose, and the manner in which this was done will
be referred to in due course."
The following news from Turan News Agency in Baku-Azerbaijan
is brought to you as a service of:
<Azerbaijan Aydinlig Association>
P.O. Box 14571
Berkeley, CA 94701
FAX: (804) 490-3832
Email: farid@mem.odu.edu
* AZERBAIJAN'S GOVERNMENT APPEALS TO COMPATRIOTS ALL OVER THE WORLD
* 60 REFUGEES FROM KELBAJAR PERISHED IN THEIR ESCAPE LORRIES
* SITUATION IN THE REGION OF KELBAJAR
* ARMENIAN ARMY CONTINUES ATTACK ON FIZULI
* PRESS-CONFERENCE OF THE CHIEF OF PRESS-SERVICE OF PRESIDENT OF AZERBAIJAN
* AZERBAIJANIS PICKET IN FRONT OF MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF RUSSIA
* PICKET OF SADVALERS IN MOSCOW
* ATTACK OF ARMENIAN UNITS STOPPED
* STATEMENT OF MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF AZERBAIJAN
AZERBAIJAN'S GOVERNMENT APPEALS TO COMPATRIOTS ALL OVER THE WORLD
BAKU (APRIL 5) TURAN: Today, Azerbaijan's government appealed
to Azeris all over the world in connection with escalation of the
Armenian aggression against the republic.
It is stressed in appeal that the experience of five-years of fighting
for independence from imperial chains shows a grim process . The war
against Azerbaijan under the pretence of protecting the human rights of
the Armenians of Ukhari (Upper) Garabag, has meant the destruction of
Azeri villages and towns, occupation of 10 percent of the territory, 60
thousand new refugees in addition to 500 thousand already in place.
This is all the price of fighting for liberty from Russian imperial rule,
is said in the document.
Azerbaijan's government appeals to all compatriots to make every
effort to inform the people of the world about the truth in Azerbaijan,
and to assistance in solving the problems facing the young state.
It is stressed in the appeal that there is urgent need for medicine,
food, experienced doctors and financial help to settle refugees from
Kelbajar, Fizuli and Lachin regions, and to render medical aid for the
sick and the wounded men.--O--
60 REFUGEES FROM KELBAJAR PERISHED IN THEIR ESCAPE LORRIES
BAKU (APRIL 5) TURAN: Today, during the evacuation from Kelbajar
region, 60 refugees on board two lorries were killed in the fire from the
Armenian Tanks on the only road to leave Kelbajar. According to press
-service of Azerbaijan president, no one survived the tragedy. --O--
SITUATION IN THE REGION OF KELBAJAR
BAKU (5 APRIL) TURAN: Attempts to evacuate the rest of 15,000
citizens, encircled on alpine villages of the region of Kelbajar
went on within the last twenty-four hours. Evacuation helicopters
could not land near these villages because of shelling from the
Armenian side and existence of fog. Measures are undertaken to air-drop
food and medicine to the encircled people.
Several hundred people succeed within the last twenty-four hours to
get out of the region of Kelbajar via mountain range. Refugees are
settled in the neighboring regions of Azerbaijan and in Ganja.
Authorities face serious problem with rendering refugees medical
aid and food. The number of refugees from Kelbajar is over 40,000 people.
Azerbaijan is not capable of handling a disaster of this magnitude.--0--
ARMENIAN ARMY CONTINUES ATTACK ON FIZULI
BAKU (5 APRIL) TURAN: The region of Fizuli of Azerbaijan,
situated outside of the territory of Daglig (Nagorno) Garabag, has been
subjected to heaviest attacks of Armenian army for the fourth day. About
30 armored technique and more than 500 soldiers of the enemy are taking
part in the attack.
Armenian units broke the defence line of the azeri forces and occupied
the ruling height from where the town is shelled from "Grad" installations,
this morning. There is heavy destructions in the town and more than 20
people are dead. Population of the town is hastily evacuated.--0--
PRESS-CONFERENCE OF THE CHIEF OF PRESS-SERVICE OF PRESIDENT OF AZERBAIJAN
BAKU (5 APRIL) TURAN: Fifty-five thousand refugees from the region
of Kelbajar were taken out by 11 o'clock on April 5, informed the chief
of the press-service of president of Azerbaijan, Arif Aliev, today.
Journalists were also informed at the press-conference that
International Red Cross is helping to accept and render refugees medical
aid. There is an urgent need to supply the refugees with tents, food and
medical aid.
Arif Aliev informed that as a result of the ongoing tragedy brought
on by the latest aggression of Armenia, the leadership of Azerbaijan
intends to appeal to Azerbaijanis and all those who treasure human life
all over the world for help.
Concerning the reaction of the international community to aggression
of Armenia, Aliev said the department of state of the USA has expressed
its anxiety to leadership of Armenia.
Participants of peace efforts in Daglig (Nagorno) Garabag under
CSCE, Rafaelli, Mareska and Chetin strongly blamed the aggression of
Armenia against Azerbaijan.
Leader of press-service informed that tomorrow ambassador of
Azerbaijan in Russia, Hikmet Haji-zade, will conduct a press-conference
in Moscow. Detailed information on latest events in the region of
Kelbajar of Azerbaijan will be given at the press-conference.--0--
AZERBAIJANIS PICKET IN FRONT OF MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF RUSSIA
BAKU (5 APRIL) TURAN: Azerbaijanis, living in Moscow, picketed
in front of the building of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia.
Picket was conducted as a token of protest against participation of
Russian units in capture of the region of Kelbajar of Azerbaijan by
Armenians. About 100 people took part in the picket, organized by
Azerbaijani society "Dayag".--0--
PICKET OF SADVALERS IN MOSCOW
BAKU (5 APRIL) 30-40 members of "Sadval" society picketed before
the building of permanent representation of Azerbaijan in Moscow.
Picketers were demanding the return of Lezghins lands, as if annexed
by Azerbaijan.
Ambassador of Azerbaijan in Moscow, Hikmet Haji-zade classified
this action as provocation aimed at creating a further inter-ethnic
conflict in Azerbaijan. He marked in his talk with the Turan
correspondent that he does not rule out a connection between the
Armenian aggression in the region of Kelbajar and this anti-
azerbaijani action of the "Sadval" society in Moscow. He also
marked that 30-40 people do not mean the Lezghian nationality in
the whole.
Society of Lezghins, "Sadval", registered in Moscow in 1990,
demands the creation of a Lezghistan state, which never existed
before on the northern territories of Azerbaijan.--0--
ATTACK OF ARMENIAN UNITS STOPPED
BAKU (5 APRIL) TURAN: Attack of Armenian army on the town of
Fizuli, which began in the last twenty-four hours, is stopped, informs
the press-service of the Ministry of Defence of Azerbaijan.
In the result of undertaken measures, 6 tanks and a number of
the attackers were destroyed. Advance units of the Armenian army
retreated several kilometers.
Chairman of the parliament, Isa Gambar, visited the town of
Fizuli and met with commanders of the units of the national army
and local citizens, today.--0--
STATEMENT OF MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF AZERBAIJAN
BAKU (5 APRIL) TURAN: Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Azerbaijan
issued a statement in connection with aggression of Armenia in the
region of Kelbajar of Azerbaijan.
It is stated in the statement that regular units of the armed
forces of Armenia captured the town of Kelbajar on April 3 .
Attack of Armenian units, which began on March 27 deep in the
territory of Azerbaijan still continues. Armenia has occupied at
present 7500 sq.km of the territory of Azerbaijan.
Spreading of Armenian aggression far away from Ukhari (Upper)
Garabag proves that the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflicts has entered a
specially dangerous phase. This is the result of non-recognition of
Armenia as an aggressor by the international community, is marked
in the document.
It is stressed in the statement that the units of the 7th Russian
army are participating in the Armenian attack. This casts doubt on
the sincerity of Russian mediation efforts in finding a peaceful
solution to the conflict.
It is marked in conclusion that aggressive actions of Armenia
have wrecked the negotiation process under aegis of CSCE.
The document contains the appeal to the world community to stop
Armenian aggression and to use political and economic sanctions
against the aggressor.--0--
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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5479 | From: gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Clipper considered harmful
Lines: 10
: Does Dorothy Denning read this group? If not, is someone on the group
: forwarding questions like these to her, or Martin Hellman, or anyone else
: who's seen more details about the chip?
Of course she does; it's just she's been toasted so often for being
an NSA patsy that she's keeping her head down. You can always mail
her directly as denning@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu,
denning@cs.cosc.georgetown.edu or denning@cs.georgetown.edu
G
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5480 | From: prz@sage.cgd.ucar.edu (Philip Zimmermann)
Subject: Fighting the Clipper Initiative
Summary: Ways to fight it
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Lines: 71
Here are some ideas for those of you who want to oppose the White
House Clipper chip crypto initiative. I think this is going to be a
tough measure to fight, since the Government has invested a lot of
resources in developing this high-profile initiative. They are
serious about it now. It won't be as easy as it was defeating Senate
Bill 266 in 1991.
Possible actions to take in response:
1) Mobilize your friends to to all the things on this list, and
more.
2) Work the Press. Talk with your local newspaper's science and
technology reporter. Write to your favorite trade rags. Better yet,
write some articles yourself for your favorite magazines or
newspapers. Explain why the Clipper chip initiative is a bad idea.
Remember to tailor it to your audience. The general public may be
slow to grasp why it's a bad idea, since it seems so technical and
arcane and innocent sounding. Try not to come across as a flaming
libertarian paranoid extremist, even if you are one.
3) Lobby Congress. Write letters and make phone calls to your
Member of Congress in your own district, as well as your two US
Senators. Many Members of Congress have aides that advise them of
technology issues. Talk to those aides.
4) Involve your local political parties. The Libertarian party
would certainly be interested. There are also libertarian wings of
the Democrat and Republican parties. The right to privacy has a
surprisingly broad appeal, spanning all parts of the political
spectrum. We have many natural allies. The ACLU. The NRA. Other
activist groups that may someday find themselves facing a government
that can suppress them much more efficiently if these trends play
themselves out. But you must articulate our arguments well if you
want to draw in people who are not familiar with these issues.
4) Contribute money to the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and
Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR), assuming
these groups will fight this initiative. They need money for legal
expenses and lobbying.
5) Mobilize opposition in industry. Companies that will presumably
develop products that will incorporate the Clipper chip should be
lobbied against it, from within and from without. If you work for a
telecommunications equipment vendor, first enlist the aid of your
coworkers and fellow engineers against this initiative, and then
present your company's management with a united front of engineering
talent against this initiative. Write persuasive memos to your
management, with your name and your colleagues' names on it. Hold
meetings on it.
6) Publicize, deploy and entrench as much guerrilla
techno-monkeywrenching apparatus as you can. That means PGP,
anonymous mail forwarding systems based on PGP, PGP key servers,
etc. The widespread availability of this kind of technology might
also be used as an argument that it can't be effectively suppressed
by Government action. I will also be working to develop new useful
tools for these purposes.
7) Be prepared to engage in an impending public policy debate on
this topic. We don't know yet how tough this fight will be, so we
may have to compromise to get most of what we want. If we can't
outright defeat it, we may have to live with a modified version of
this Clipper chip plan in the end. So we'd better be prepared to
analyze the Government's plan, and articulate how we want it
modified.
-Philip Zimmermann
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5481 | From: maxg@microsoft.com (Max Gilpin)
Subject: HONDA CBR600 For Sale
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: CBR Hurricane
Distribution: usa
Lines: 8
For Sale 1988 Honda CBR600 (Hurricane). I bought the bike at the end of
last summer and although I love it, the bills are forcing me to part with
it. The bike has a little more than 6000 miles on it and runs very strong.
It is in nead of a tune-up and possibly break pads but the rubber is good.
I am also tossing in a TankBag and a KIWI Helmet. Asking $3000.00 or best
offer. Add hits newspaper 04-20-93 and Micronews 04-23-93. Interested
parties can call 206-635-2006 during the day and 889-1510 in the evenings
no later than 11:00PM.
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5482 | From: cscon101@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Subject: 1-800-832-4778 Western Digital NO REPLY
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services
Lines: 3
1-800-832-4778 Western Digital's Voice Mail -
Can get information on many drives, or an
actual person at the end.
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5483 | From: enis@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (enis.surensoy)
Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
Organization: AT&T
Lines: 4
>Armenia says it could shoot down Turkish planes
Armenia does not have pot to piss in it; let alone shooting
down modern war planes.
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5484 | From: bob@natasha.portal.com (Bob Cain)
Subject: Re: Pgp, PEM, and RFC's (Was: Cryptography Patents)
Organization: Oce Graphics USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Lines: 41
Charles Kincy (ckincy@cs.umr.edu) wrote:
:
: All I have to say is...yeah, right. If you're willing to pay them
: mucho big bucks and/or use the routines *they* tell you to do.
: Doesn't sound very reasonable to me.
All I have to say is this is full of shit. I have negotiated a license
and the bucks are incredibly reasonable with an upfront charge on a
sliding scale depending on your capitalization. If you are a startup
and can't afford it you can't afford to start up in the first place.
Why do people insist on making unequivocal statements about that which
they know nothing.
:
: But I don't guess PKP and RSA are interested in big bucks. Maybe
: they have some other agenda? Secure communications only for
: government agents, perhaps?
Have you considered treatment for paranoia? The government is the
single biggest thorn in RSA's side.
:
: Some limitation. Let me guess: don't use the code in any way PKP or
: RSA doesn't like....such as...providing secure communications for the
: average citizen.
That was exactly its purpose if you know anything about it. There is
nothing at all preventing the average citizen using it, only selling
it.
:
: I hope my cynicism is misplaced here. Go ahead...I'm not afraid to
: be wrong every once in a while. But, I have an uneasy feeling that I
: am right. :(
It is and you are wrong yet you emotionally state a bunch of crap as fact
with a tiny disclaimer at the end. Check your facts first and grow up.
Why is there such a strong correlation between interest in cryptography
and immaturity I wonder.
Bob Cain (normally rcain@netcom.com)
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5485 | From: jru@Comtech.com (Jimmy R. Upton)
Subject: [Rubick] Shortest Path Algorithm - Status?
Organization: Comtech Labs Inc.
Lines: 25
What is the expected run time (+/- a factor of 10) on a 486DX/50
using the best known algorithm for finding the shortest path
solution for Rubicks Cube from a randomly chosen position?
I have read the FAQ and followed the recent discussion on Rubicks
Cube but I don't believe this question has been answered. Notice
that I am specifically looking for an algorithm that finds the
SHORTEST path, not just any solution.
It seems to me that the underlying assumption is that such a program
would need to do a brute force search though 10^20 positions. That
seems an unreasonably pessimistic assumption to me and I want to
know if someone has significantly improved on that.
I have some ideas of my own on how to approach this problem, but
before I spend to much time developing them I wanted to know if
someone else has already done the work.
ADMINISTRIVIA: I have posted this to three groups and attempted
to set the followup to rec.puzzles which seems to me to be the
place to continue this discussion. I will cross post a summary
when and if it becomes appropriate. Email replies gladly accepted.
Jimmy
jru@Comtech.com
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5486 | From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Return of the Know Nothing Party
Nntp-Posting-Host: vladimir.wetware.com
Reply-To: drieux@wetware.com
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Lines: 38
In article 23791@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu, ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (David Anderson) writes:
>In article <C56HDM.945@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>>
>>Well Actually its a case of Resolving whether one
>>Supports Biblical Literalism, and the Enerrancy of the Bible,
>>or Whether on wished to Jump On the SeXularHumanist,
>>Detain all the True Christians in Death Camps approach
>>of the Northern Liberal Abolitionists and their EFFORTS
>>to Destroy the Bible, Corrupt the Moral Fibre of American
>>and Lead the God Fearing into the Bondage of Liberal Degeneracy.
>>
>>But I guess one needs to know a little about the bible,
>>christianity and american history.....
>
>Mt. St. Helens didn't spew such crap. How do you manage,
>drieux, day in & day out, to keep it up??
So which are you advocating?
That You know Nothing About American History,
Or that You Know Nothing About the Bible?
Is this a Restoration of the "Know Nothing" Party?
ciao
drieux
ps: what WAS the "Free Negro Sailor Act" about,
and what was the Supreme Court's Ruling On it... and
More Importantly, how does this Complicate the Mythology
that all blacks were slaves????
---
"All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!
All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!"
-Last Call of the Wild of the Humour Lemmings
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5487 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Armenians were also partners in Nazi practices.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 82
In article <C5vBnv.CJ@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>This implies both sides are equal. True, it may sometimes be difficult or
Still living in an alternate universe? Numerous articles in major newspapers
(London Times) and periodicals (Newsweek) during the war, had suggested
the existence of a significant collaboration between Armenians and the
Nazis. Arthur Derounian deserves credit for being the first person to
deal with this issue extensively. Derounian's motives were twofold: his
deeply held democratic convictions gave him a sense of duty and he felt
obliged to shed light on this yet another dark chapter of Armenian history.
Concurrently, Derounian embarked on what one would call 'crisis control'
or face-saving. In order to forestall any potential attacks on the larger
Armenian community in the United States, he marginalized collaboration
as deplorable but insignificant.[1]
[1] John Roy Carlson (real name Arthur Derounian), 'The Plotters,'
E. P. Dutton & Company, Inc., New York 1946, p. 182.
Source: "Mitteilungsblatt, Berlin, December 1939, Nr. 2 and 5-6"
Yet another historical fact: a fact that for years has been deliberately
forgotten, concealed, and wiped from memory - the fact of Armenian-Nazi
collaboration.
A magazine called Mitteilungsblatt der Deutsch-Armenischen Gesselschaft
is the clearest and most definite proof of this collaboration. The
magazine was first published in Berlin in 1938 during Nazi rule of Germany
and continued publication until the end of 1944. Even the name of the
magazine, which implies a declaration of Armenian-Nazi cooperation,
is attention-getting.
This magazine, every issue of which proves the collaboration, is historically
important as documentary evidence. It is a heap of writing that should be
an admonition to world opinion and to all mankind.
In Nazi Germany, Armenians were considered to be an Aryan race and certain
political, economic, and social rights were thus granted to them. They
occupied positions in public service and were partners in Nazi practices.
The whole world of course knows what awaited those who were not considered
"Aryan" and what befell them.
Now wait, there is more.
Source: "From Sardarapat to Sevres and Lausanne" by Avetis Aharonian. The
Armenian Review, Vol. 16, No. 3-63, Autumn, Sep. 1963, pp. 47-57.
p. 52 (second paragraph).
"Your three chiefs, Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian are the ringleaders
of the bands which have destroyed Tartar villages and have staged
massacres in Zangezour, Surmali, Etchmiadzin, and Zangibasar. This is
intolerable. Look - and here he pointed to a file of official documents
on the table - look at this, here in December are the reports of the last
few months concerning ruined Tartar villages which my representative
Wardrop has sent me. The official Tartar communique speaks of the
destruction of 300 villages."
p. 54 (fifth paragraph).
"Yes, of course. I repeat, until this massacre of the Tartars is stopped
and the three chiefs are not removed from your military leadership I
hardly think we can supply you arms and ammunition."
"...it is the armed bands led by Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian who
during the past months have raided and destroyed many Tartar villages in
the regions of Surmali, Etchmiadzin, Zangezour, and Zangibasar. There are
official charges of massacres."
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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5488 | From: dchamber@b15news.b15.ingr.com (Doug Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Cherokee v. Explorer
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Lines: 42
jcksnste@ACF1.NYU.EDU writes:
>Hi All,
> Brand new to the group, so please, no flames!
>Honest opinions on Jeep Cherokee Country (not Sport) v. Ford Explorer.
>My stepfather, who ponders every major decision up to four months AFTER
>making it, is looking at one of the two. Also, please comment on the
>importance, if any, between 4WD and 2WD. We live in Princeton, NJ and
>will barely ever take it off road. We learned with this last winter that
>we could really use something with a little more confidence in 20 inches of
>snow than an Olds Cutlass Eighty-Eight!!
>All replies appreciated.. he'll be pondering this for a while. He's already
>decided on 6 cyl. over 4, so don't worry about that one..
>Thanks!
>-->Steve
I own a new ford Explorer, I really love it!
I drove the Jeep and besides the power I just didn't see
spending the money for it! The Jeep was great but I just
love the Explorer! I have a 2WD and I got through the blizzard
of 93 just fine! I drove about 400 miles in the worst part of
storm and it never faulterd! My own Opinion
Doug i
>(jcksnste@acf1.nyu.edu)
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5489 | From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Lines: 108
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dante.nmsu.edu
wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) write:
>In article <1qpu0uINNbt1@dns1.NMSU.Edu> bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) writes:
>>wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
>>Since the Mac uses ONLY SCSI-1 for hard drives YES the "figure includes a
>>hundred $$$ for SCSI drivers" This is sloppy people and DUMB.
>What group is this? This is not a MAC group.
Nice of you to DELETE BOTH YOUR responce and the item that prompted it.
to whit:
>>I just bought at Quantum 240 for my mac at home. I paid $369 for it. I
^^^
>>haven't seen IDE drives cheaper.
To which YOU responded:
>A friend of mine just got a Maxtor 245 meg IDE drive for $320. (that's 245
>million bytes, or 234 mega-bytes). With the basic $20 interface, he gets
>close to 1 meg/sec transfer on his 286-20. Does your figure include a few
>hundred $$$ for SCSI drivers?
To which I correctly pointed out the following:
>Since the Mac uses ONLY SCSI-1 for hard drives YES the "figure includes a
>hundred $$$ for SCSI drivers" This is sloppy people and DUMB.
As I said this is sloppy and DUMB {YOU should resounded by DISCOUNTING the Mac
NOT giving "Maxtor 245 meg IDE drive for $320" example. By giving an
example you give the IMPLIED consent that for MAC info to be INCLUDED
in the SCSI discusion.}
>>Ok once again with the SCSI spec list:
>Why the spec list again? We are talking SCSI on a PC, not on a MAC or
>a UNIX box. And we are talking ISA bus, or possibly EISA or VLB.
Ok I will do this V E R Y S L O W L Y so you can understand
REGUARDLESS of whether it is a Mac or a PC SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 are DIFFERENT
from each other as is asynchronous and synchronous SCSI-1. All of these
have DIFFERENT SPEEDS and COSTS. Lumping them all together as 'SCSI' is
dumb and sloppy. Take again the quote later on as an example of the problem
in the PC world {The spec list was so that you knew where the numbers were
coming from in the article. It shows the article is CORRECT in it
staments about SCSI but not CONSITANT}.
>This isin't comp.periphs.SCSI.
With the way this thread has gone how do you tell :-).
>Tell me what the performance figures are with a single SCSI drive on a PC
>with an ISA (or EISA or VLB) bus.
Already GAVE them. YOU keep deleting them! So here are the Specs
on everybody AGAIN {With some added info}:
SCSI-1 {SCSI-1 controler chip} asynchronous range: 0-3MB/s
synchronous range: 0-5MB/s Both common to the PC world; difference is
mainly in software not hardware.
SCSI-1 {SCSI-2 controller chip; also called SCSI-2 (8-bit)}: 4-6MB/s with
10MB/s burst. This is advertised as SCSI-2 in BYTE 4/93:159 FOR the
PC and AT THESE SPEEDS.{NOT the Mac, the PC.}
{I have not seen the following for EITHER the Mac or the PC}
SCSI-2 {16-bit/wide or fast mode}: 8-12MB/s with 20MB/s burst
SCSI-2 {32-bit/wide AND fast}: 15-20MB/s with 40MB/s burst
On the other interfaces let DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu speak:
>IDE ranges from 0-8.3MB/s.
asynchronous range: 0-5MB/s {infered from BYTE 4/93:159}
synchronous range: 0-8.3MB/s.
>ESDI is always 1.25MB/s (although there are some non-standard versions)
wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
>Theoretical performance figures are not relevant to this group or this
>debate. I'm sure that there are some platforms out there that can
>handle the 40 megs/sec of SCSI xyz wide'n'fast, but the PC isin't one of
>them.
Note that I ALSO give the AVERAGE through put for SCSI-2 which holds true
a Mac OR IBM/PC clone with the correct hardware and software.
And since PC ADVERSIZEMENTS are using Theoretical performance figures WHY
CANNOT WE?
>>If we are to continue this thread STATE CLEARLY WHICH SCSI you are talking
>>about SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or SCSI over all {SCSI-1 AND SCSI-2}
>>IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
>Well maybe if the SCSI design people had their act together than maybe
>all PC's would have built in SCSI ports by now.
With PC articles like the following it is obvious that the problem is NOT with
SCSI but with the PEOPLE WHO REPORT IT! {Like YOU.}
Look at the inconsitant use of SCSI in the below quote:
(My comments in {})
"Although SCSI is twice as fast as ESDI,{This is asynchronous SCSI-1 with
a SCSI-1 chip} 20% faster than IDE..." {this is BOTH asynchronous SCSI-1 with
a SCSI-2 chip AND 8-bit SCSI-2} PC Magazine April 27, 1993:29
The ARTICLE is confused, NOT SCSI. The TERM is a mess from inconsitant use
NOT because the interface itself is a mess.
SCSI means "The set of SCSI interfaces composed of SCSI-1 AND SCSI-2"
NOT 'SCSI-1' as some people want to use it.
To read CONSITANTLY the quote SHOULD read:
{asynchronous SCSI-1 with a SCSI-1 chip}
"Although asynchronous SCSI-1 is twice as fast as ESDI, one third the
speed of IDE..."
or {asynchronous SCSI-1 with a SCSI-2 chip or 8-bit SCSI-2}
"Although SCSI-1 with a SCSI-2 chip and 8-bit SCSI-2 are eight times as fast as
ESDI, 20% faster than IDE..."
NOTE the NONUSE of 'SCSI' by itself. This eliminates ambaguity.
If we are to continue this thread STATE CLEARLY WHICH SCSI you are talking
about SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or SCSI over all {SCSI-1 AND SCSI-2}. Lumping
everything into SCSI as SCSI-1 is SLOPPY, WRONG, and DUMB. Inconsitant
SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 usage is also a problem. Clean it up now or have
a mess like SVGA was several years ago because everybody and his Uncle
slapped 'SCSA' an their own monitor inteface {SCSI IS standarized unlike
SVGA was years ago EXCEPT in terminaology.}
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5490 | From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Too Many European in NHL
Lines: 29
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
RA> Here's the point: there are far too many Europeans in the NHL.
R> I am sick of watching a game between an American and a Canadian
RA> team (let's say, the Red Wings and the Canucks) and seeing names
R> like "Bure" "Konstantinov" and "Borshevshky". Is this North America
RA> isn't it?
I disagree. I think the NHL should feature the best hockey talent in
the world -- regardless of nationality. I have to admit that when I
see players like Gretzky and Messier traded off to the US because the
Canadian teams can't afford them, I have been know to say (only half-
seriously) that we'd probably be better off if we had our own Canadian
hockey league for Canadian players! ;-)
RA> I'm all for the creation of a European Hockey League, and let
RA> te Bures and Selannes of the world play on their own continent.
RA>
RA> I just don't want themon mine.
Again, it doesn't matter to me -- Russian, Finnish, Mexican, Albertan,
New Yorker, black, white, korean, martian, plutoneon, ... it doesn't
matter.
Any of them can put a Leafs' jersey on if they can put the puck in!
:-)
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.munc.ca
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5491 | From: texdude@cs1.bradley.edu (Philip Allen)
Subject: Ryan rumor...
Article-I.D.: cs1.texdude.734914692
Organization: Bradley University
Lines: 12
Nntp-Posting-Host: cs1.bradley.edu
This just in...
Nolan Ryan hurt his right knee in the 4th inning of the Rangers-Orioles
game last night. He'll be having arthoscopic surgery that will, at best,
keep him on the DL for two to five weeks.
Just when I had almost convinced myself that the Rangers' rotation would
stay healthy this year...
Phil Allen
texdude@cs1.bradley.edu
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5492 | From: tron@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tron R.)
Subject: modulation over rf
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 11
I would like to modulate a 40KHz squarewave over rf. This is for a rf
remote control project. The squarewave has a high of 5 v and low of 0v.
thanks.
tron
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5493 | From: musone@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mark J. Musone)
Subject: MC SBI mixer
Organization: UB
Lines: 20
Nntp-Posting-Host: autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu
HI, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me on twwo related
subjects. I am currently learning about AM/FM receivers and recieving
circuits. I understand a lot of things ,but a few things I am confused
abuot. The first is the MIXER, to mix the RF and local oscillator
frequencies to make the IF. Does anyone have any cicruit diagrams (as
simple as possible) for this kind of mixer? I have come across a
MC-SBL mixer chip But I have not been able to find it in any catalogs
(ACTIVE,etc...)
Along the same note, are there any SIMPLE fm receiver circuits anyone
may have stashed away somewhere and they couold let me see?.
P.S. any REALLY GOOD BOOKS on AM/FM theory ALONG WITH DETAILED
ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS would help a lot.
I have seen a lot of theory books with no circuits and a lot of
circuit books with no theory, but one without the other does not help.
Thanks,
Mark Musone
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5494 | From: muttiah@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Ranjan S Muttiah)
Subject: cults (who keeps them going ?)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Lines: 9
Mr. Clinton said today that the horrible tragedy of the Waco fiasco
should remind those who join cults of the dangers of doing so.
Now, I began scratching my head thinking (a bad sign :-), "don't the
mainstream religions (in this case Christianity...or the 7th day
adventist in particular) just keep these guys going ? Isn't Mr. Clinton
condemning his own religion ? After all, isn't it a cult too ?"
... bad thoughts these.
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5495 | From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Subject: Re: Sales of PowerBook slowing down...
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
Lines: 27
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2
In article <martin.733762199@tohi> (comp.sys.mac.hardware), martin@tohi (Jean-francois Martin) writes:
> First, this is not an April 1 joke.
>
> A dealer in my town told me that the PowerBook don't sell as they use to sell.
> The guy told me that Apple is having the same problem it has when the desktop
> Mac was too expensive ; the PowerBook are too expensive in comparison to what
> you can get on the DOS side. What do you think of this? Do you feel the same
> thing about it? Just curious.
Sounds about right.
If there is high demand for a product there is little incentive to
aggresively cut prices. Once the demand fall off a bit, then is the
time to start getting aggressive with pricing. Waiting too long can
really hurt your business though :-)
The PowerBooks have sold very well up to now, if they are slowing
down Apple needs to come out with some lower priced versions (the
only reason I own a PowerBook is that I could spring for a $900 PB100,
the rest of the lineup is way to pricey for me). I'd bet they'll
be coming out with more power versions too.
-- Michael Peirce -- peirce@outpost.sf-bay.org
-- Peirce Software -- Suite 301, 719 Hibiscus Place
-- -- San Jose, California USA 95117
-- Makers of: -- voice: (408) 244-6554 fax: (408) 244-6882
-- Smoothie -- AppleLink: peirce & America Online: AFC Peirce
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5496 | From: delilah@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona)
Subject: Re: New to Motorcycles...
Nntp-Posting-Host: next18pg2.wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Lines: 10
> > Motorcycle Safety Foundation riding course (a must!) $140
> ^^^
> Wow! Courses in Georgia are much cheaper. $85 for both.
> >
>
in maryland, they were $25 each when i learned to ride 3 years ago. now,
it's $125 (!) for the beginner riders' course and $60 for the experienced
riders' course (which, admittedly, takes only about half the time ).
-D-
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5497 | From: brandt@cs.unc.edu (Andrew Brandt)
Subject: Seeking good Alfa Romeo mechanic.
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: axon.cs.unc.edu
Keywords: alfa, romeo, spider, mechanic
I am looking for recommendations for a good (great?) Alfa Romeo
mechanic in South Jersey or Philadelphia or nearby.
I have a '78 Alfa Spider that needs some engine, tranny, steering work
done. The body is in quite good shape. The car is awful in cold
weather, won't start if below freezing (I know, I know, why drive a
Spider if there's snow on the ground ...). It has Bosch *mechanical*
fuel injection that I am sure needs adjustment.
Any opinions are welcome on what to look for or who to call.
Email or post (to rec.autos), I will summarize if people want.
Thx, Andy (brandt@cs.unc.edu)
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5498 | From: mtrek@netcom.com (Chuck L. Peterson)
Subject: 40MHZ Oscilloscope FOR SALE
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 11
I'm giving up hardware design and
am selling my Oscilloscope:
BK Precision Model 1541B
40 MHZ Dual-Trace
Barely Used
$450 firm (Fry's sells it for $589+tax)
Prefer people in Silicon Valley, so I don't have to ship it.
mtrek@netcom.com
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5499 | From: bchase@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Bret Chase)
Subject: Re: PDS vs. Nubus (was Re: LC III NuBus Capable?)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Lines: 44
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu
In article <C5MqK0.F29@liverpool.ac.uk> wis@liverpool.ac.uk (Mr. W.I. Sellers) writes:
>Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey (higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov) wrote:
>: In article <C5KzLs.KKB@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian V. Hughes) writes:
>: > mmiller@garnet.msen.com (Marvin Miller) writes:
>: >>My friend recently purchased a LC III and he wants to know if there is
>: >>such a demon called NuBus adapter for his PDS slot?
>
>: > The LC family of Macs can only
>: > use PDS cards. They are not able to use NuBus.
>
>: Ah, but why? Can some technically-hip Macslinger tell us what the
>: difference is between PDS and Nubus?
>
>: Is it impossible to make a gadget that plugs into PDS and ends in a
>: Nubus card cage? At least, Marvin's friend has not been able to
>: locate one and neither have I. What is the fundamental reason for
>: this?
>
>I think that there do exist NuBus expansion cages (I'm sure I've seen
>them advertised occassionally), but I think that the main problem is that
>they cost much more than the difference in price between say a LC and IIvx
>so unless you need lots of NuBus slots its not worth the bother.
>
>(Of course, it may be that these extra boxes are so expensive because
>no one buys them because they are so expensive...)
>
>NuBus technology isn't a special Apple Proprietry thing (I have this
>sneaky feeling that it is licensed from Texas Instruments???) so there
>is no problem building an expansion box.
Apple uses the IEEE Nubus-90 standard for their 32 bit backplane bus.
(I got this from a technote that I reada couple of weeks ago)
>>>>>>>>>>other stuff deleted<<<<<<<<<
Hope this helps,
Bret Chase
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