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From: gifford@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Barbara Gifford)
Subject: The Mystery in the Paradox
Reply-To: gifford@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Barbara Gifford)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
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I have been looking for a book that specifically addresses
the mystery of God in the paradox. I have read some that touch
on the subject in a chapter but would like a more detailed read.
Is anyone aware of any books that deal with this subject.
Please e-mail me. Thanks.
Barbara
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From: kthompso@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Re: Cable TVI interference
Keywords: catv cable television tvi
Organization: NCR Corporation Wichita, KS
Lines: 14
victor@inqmind.bison.mb.ca (Victor Laking) writes:
)Do you know what frequencies chanels 17 to 19 use and what is usually
)allocated to those frequencies for broadcast outside of cable?
17 is air comm.
18 is amateur
19 is business and public service
--
Ken Thompson N0ITL
NCR Corp. Peripheral Products Division Disk Array Development
3718 N. Rock Road Wichita KS 67226 (316)636-8783
Ken.Thompson@wichitaks.ncr.com
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From: tomcat@leland.Stanford.EDU (tom spearman)
Subject: ATTENTION: ALL NEO-GEO OWNERS READ THIS!
Keywords: neo-geo
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
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Hello Neo-Geo owners (and non-owners who couldn't resist the title;)),
I was wondering if any of you out there want to trade or sell games. I
mean, buying them from the stores can get kinda expensive. $184.99 is
a little too much to be spending on each game. But ahh, the quality...
Now I can get them for about $100, but that's still a lot.
Right now, I have:
Crossed Swords
Magician Lord
Baseball Stars 2
Fatal Fury
Nam-1975
I am interested in buying more titles. If any of you have any interesting
trade ideas, please let me know.
Thanks
Tom
tomcat@leland.stanford.edu
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From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: Changing oil by self.
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
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In article <C5LMtr.Mo7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> marshatt@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Za
uberer) writes:
>>>In article <1qgi8eINNhs5@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>, yiklam@unixg.ubc.ca (Yik Chong
Lam) writes:
>>>|> Hello,
>>>|> Does anyone know how to take out the bolt under the engine
>>>|> compartment? Should I turn clockwise or counter? I tried any kind
>>>|> of lubricants, WD-40,etc, but I still failed!
>>>|> Do you think I can use a electric drill( change to a suitable
>>>|> bit ) to turn it out? If I can succeed, can I re-tighten it not too
>>>|> tight, is it safe without oil leak?
>>>|> Thank you very much in advance------ Winson
Don't worry about leaks. Don't worry about which way to turn the damn thing.
Take a good claw hammer and pry it straight out. Now, you'll notice, after
all the oil pours out, that there are no theads where there used to be.
Thats why 'heli coils' were invented. Yes, buy a few of these gems, and
rethread the hole a little larger each time you change the oil.
When the hole gets too big for any heli coil you can buy, its time to trade in
the car...
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From: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org (Bob Billson)
Subject: Re: subliminal message flashing on TV
Organization: Color Computer 3: Tandy's 'game' machine
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kennehra@logic.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan) says:
>Hi. I was doing research on subliminal suggestion for a psychology
>paper, and I read that one researcher flashed hidden messages on the
>TV screen at 1/200ths of a second. Is that possible? I thought the
Take a look over in alt.folklore.urban. There is a thread about subliminal
messages on TV. The fact that subliminal messages don't work aside, an image
can't be flashed on a TV screen fast enough to not be noticed.
--
Bob Billson, KC2WZ | internet: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org
$nail: 21 Bates Way, Westfield, NJ 07090 | uucp: ...!uunet!kc2wz!bob
"Friends don't let friends run DOS" -- Microware
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From: d12751@tanus.oz.au (Jason Bordujenko)
Subject: DAC Circuit
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Lines: 54
G'day All,
I was looking to build a Parallel Port Digital to Analogue Converter the other
day and came across this schematic which I promptly threw together on a piece
of VeroBoard:
P2----22k----+
P3----48k----|
P4----100k---|
P5----200k---|
P6----400k---|
P7----800k---| 10uf electrolytic
P8----1M6----| +
P9----3M2----+---||--+----------
| +
47nF ceramic -
-
| -
P25------------------+----------
(Please excuse the obvious limits of the Lower ASCII char set :=)
I have it all constructed here and sitting inside a nice little grey ABS box.
Unfortunately I can't get it to work... I have a little demo here by the name
of Cronologia (Which the schematic came from) and all I can get it to pump
out of the box is data type hash/static with a small amount of music signal
behind it - it's even worse than the speaker inside the machine.
Does anybody out in net.colourful.computer.world have any ideas/suggestions/
better designs/improvements/wastepaper bin... etc?
Many thanks for a reply via this conference or email.
//
\X/ Regards, Jason.
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From: qq43@liverpool.ac.uk (Chris Wooff)
Subject: Tidying up after removing an OLE server
Keywords: OLE, SPSS
Nntp-Posting-Host: chad3-22.liv.ac.uk
Organization: The University of Liverpool
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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A while ago I installed SPSS for Windows as part of an evaluation. Once
the evaluation was complete I duly deleted the software from my PC.
Unfortunately there is still a "ghost" of SPSS left: when I run
something like "Write" and go to embed an object then "SPSS Chart"
appears on the list of objects I'm offered. I looked around all
the obvious "INI" files without success. The next thing I tried
was looking for the string "SPSS Chart" in every file in the
Windows directory. It turned up in a file called REQ.DAT (or
REG.DAT). Unfortunately the file was binary and so I didn't feel
inclined to edit it.
I'd welcome a solution for removing SPSS from the list of OLE servers.
Chris Wooff
(C.Wooff@liverpool.ac.uk)
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From: rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Nntp-Posting-Host: habu
Organization: Metaflow Technologies Inc.
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It might be nice to:
1. cut out the ad hominem attacks on Prof. Denning, Mr. Sternlight,
etc. If you have something objective to say about their views, go
ahead and say it (subject to point 2.). Personal attacks reflect more
on the attacker more than on the attackee. Throw light, not heat!
2. restrict the discussion to appropriate newsgroups. I submit that
comp.org.acm and comp.org.ieee are not appropriate for this
discussion. You have now made subscribers to these newsgroups aware of
the issue. If they want to know more or participate in the discussion,
they can easily join sci.crypt, comp.security.misc, alt.security, or
comp.org.eff.talk.
--
...Russ Schnapp
Email: netcom!metaflow!rschnapp or rschnapp@Metaflow.com or rschnapp@BIX.com
Metaflow Technologies Voice: 619/452-6608x230; FAX: 619/452-0401
La Jolla, California Unless otw specified, I`m speaking only for myself!
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From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew)
Subject: Re: Dayton Hamfest
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Lines: 33
Yes,
Take Interstate I-70 to the route 48 exit. Go south on 48 about
2-1/2 miles. Trun right on Shiloh Springs Road. The hamvention is
at the Harrah arena, which is about 1 mile west and on the north
side of the Road. Parking at the arena is limited. Lodging is
probably entirely booked-up within a 40 mile radius. Good luck.
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It is possible to park at the mall to the west. There are shuttle
busses running between the arena and the mall.
If possible, get a Montgomery County, OH map from your local AAA
office. It should be free if you are an AAA member.
If you don't already have definite plans, now is not a particularly
good time to start to think about going to the hamvention.
--
Bill Mayhew NEOUCOM Computer Services Department
Rootstown, OH 44272-9995 USA phone: 216-325-2511
wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (140.220.1.1) 146.580: N8WED
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From: Amruth Laxman <al26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Surviving Large Accelerations?
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu
Hi,
I was reading through "The Spaceflight Handbook" and somewhere in
there the author discusses solar sails and the forces acting on them
when and if they try to gain an initial acceleration by passing close to
the sun in a hyperbolic orbit. The magnitude of such accelerations he
estimated to be on the order of 700g. He also says that this is may not
be a big problem for manned craft because humans (and this was published
in 1986) have already withstood accelerations of 45g. All this is very
long-winded but here's my question finally - Are 45g accelerations in
fact humanly tolerable? - with the aid of any mechanical devices of
course. If these are possible, what is used to absorb the acceleration?
Can this be extended to larger accelerations?
Thanks is advance...
-Amruth Laxman
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From: amit@aryeh.uchicago.edu (Yali Amit)
Subject: Problems with Open Windows
Organization: Dept. of Statistics
Lines: 22
After having OpenWindows
(Version 3 for SunOS 4.1) or Xwindows
running continuously on my machine for 3-4 days,
the following message appears when trying to open
a new window, or to run any program that needs to open windows.
XView error: Cannot open connection to window server: :0.0 (Server
package)
I would greatly appreciate any suggestions to solve this problem.
Yali Amit
Department of Statistics
University of Chicago
Chicago IL 60615
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Subject: Re: ALT.SEX.STORIES under Literary Critical Analy
From: NUNNALLY@acs.harding.edu (John Nunnally)
Distribution: world
Organization: Harding University, Searcy, AR
Nntp-Posting-Host: acs.harding.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24In-Reply-To: sandvik@newton.apple.com's message of Sun, 18 Apr 1993 00:06:17 GMTLines: 28
Lines: 28
In <sandvik-170493170457@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com writes:
> In article <1qevbh$h7v@agate.berkeley.edu>, dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu (Dennis
> Kriz) wrote:
> > I'm going to try to do something here, that perhaps many would
> > not have thought even possible. I want to begin the process of
> > initiating a literary critical study of the pornography posted on
> > alt.sex.stories, to identify the major themes and motifs present
> > in the stories posted there -- opening up then the possibility of
> > an objective moral evaluation of the material present there.
>
> Dennis, I'm astounded. I didn't know you were interested to even
> study such filth as alt.sex.stories provide...
>
> Cheers,
> Kent
> ---
> sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
"Finally, brethern, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is
right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute,
if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, let your
mind dwell on these things." Phil. 4:8.
More cheers,
John
Nunnally@acs.Harding.edu
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From: lundby@rtsg.mot.com (Walter F. Lundby)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Nntp-Posting-Host: accord2
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Lines: 48
>>Is there such a thing as MSG (monosodium glutamate) sensitivity?
>>Superstition. Anybody here have experience to the contrary?
>>
As a person who is very sensitive to msg and whose wife and kids are
too, I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE FOOD INDUSTRY WANTS TO PUT MSG IN FOOD!!!
Somebody in the industry GIVE ME SOME REASONS WHY!
IS IT AN INDUSTRIAL BYPRODUCT THAT NEEDS GETTING GET RID OF?
IS IT TO COVER UP THE FACT THAT THE RECIPES ARE NOT VERY GOOD OR THE FOOD IS POOR QUALITY?
DO SOME OF YOU GET A SADISTIC PLEASURE OUT OF MAKING SOME OF US SICK?
DO THE TASTE TESTERS HAVE SOME DEFECT IN THEIR FLAVOR SENSORS (MOUTH etc...)
THAT MSG CORRECTS?
I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!
ALSO ... Nitrosiamines (sp) and sulfites... Why them? There are
safer ways to preserve food, wines, and beers!
I think
1) outlaw the use of these substances without warning labels as
large as those on cig. packages.
2) Require 30% of comparable products on the market to be free of these
substances and state that they are free of MSG, DYES, NITROSIAMINES and SULFITES on the package.
3) While at it outlaw yellow dye #5. For that matter why dye food?
4) Take the dyes and flavorings out of vitamins. (In my OSCO only Stress
Tabs (tm) didn't have yellow dye #5) { My doctor says Yellow Dye #5 is
responsible for 1/2 of all nasal polyps !!! }
KEEP FOOD FOOD! QUIT PUTTING IN JUNK!
JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH.
Sig: A person tired of getting sick from this junk!
--
Walter Lundby
--
Walter Lundby
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From: darndt@nic.gac.edu (David Arndt)
Subject: Johnny Hart's (B.C. comic strip) mailing address?
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
Lines: 17
Subject pretty much says it all - I'm looking for Johnny Hart's (creator
of the B.C. comic stip) mailing address.
For those of you who haven't seen them, take a look at his strips for Good
Friday and Easter Sunday. Remarkable witness!
If anyone can help me get in touch with him, I'd really appreciate it!
I've contacted the paper that carries his strip and -- they'll get back to
me with it!
Thanks for your help,
Dave Arndt
St. Peter's Evangelical Lutheran Church
St. Peter, MN 56082
darndt@nic.gac.edu
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From: shellgate!llo@uu4.psi.com (Larry L. Overacker)
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Organization: Shell Oil
Lines: 109
In article <Apr.13.00.08.35.1993.28412@athos.rutgers.edu> caralv@caralv.auto-trol.com (Carol Alvin) writes:
>vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) writes:
>>In article <Apr.10.05.32.29.1993.14388@athos.rutgers.edu> caralv@caralv.auto-trol.com (Carol Alvin) writes:
>> > ...
>> >
>> >Are all truths also absolutes?
>> >Is all of scripture truths (and therefore absolutes)?
>> >
>> The answer to both questions is yes.
>
>Perhaps we have different definitions of absolute then. To me,
>an absolute is something that is constant across time, culture,
>situations, etc. True in every instance possible. Do you agree
>with this definition? I think you do:
>
>> Similarly, all truth is absolute. Indeed, a non-absolute truth is a
>> contradiction in terms. When is something absolute? When it is always
>> true. Obviously, if a "truth" is not always "true" then we have a
>> contradiction in terms.
I agree with Carol here. Determining absolutes is, practically speaking, a
waste of time. And we easily forget that relative truth is, in fact relative.
For example, I recently was asking some children the question "What temperature
does water boil at?" I got the answer 212 degrees consistently. I asked
if they knew what scale, and was told "It's just 212 degrees. Any scale.
That's what all thermometers say." Well, that's sincere, and may be
true in the experience of the speaker, but it is simply wrong. IT is NOT
an absolute truth. Similarly, Scripture is full of Truth, which we should
nurture and cherish, but trying to determine which parts are Absolute Truth
and which parts are the manifestations of that in the context of the time
and culture in which the text was penned is missing the point. Then religion
easily becomes an intellectual head-trip, devoid of the living experience of
the indwelling Trinity and becomes dead scholasticism, IMO.
[example of head-covering in Church deleted]
This was a good example. There may be an Absolute Truth behind the
writing, but the simplest understanding of the passage is that the
instructions apply to the Corinthians, and not necessarily elsewhere.
The instructions may reflect Absolute Truth in the context of first
century culture and the particular climate at Corinth, which was having
a LOT of trouble with order. Is it Absolute Truth to me? No. And I
see no compelling, or even reasonable, reason that it should be.
>Evangelicals are clearly not taking this particular part of scripture
>to be absolute truth. (And there are plenty of other examples.)
>Can you reconcile this?
Even the most die-hard literalists do not take all of the Bible literally.
I've yet to meet anyone who takes the verse "blessed is he who takes your
babies and smashes their heads against the rocks" literally. The Bible
was not printed or handed to us by God with color codings to tell us
what parts should be interpreted which way.
>> Many people claim that there are no absolutes in the world. Such a
>> statement is terribly self-contradictory. Let me put it to you this
>> way. If there are no absolutes, shouldn't we conclude that the statement,
>> "There are no absolutes" is not absolutely true? Obviously, we have a
>> contradiction here.
>
>I don't claim that there are *no* absolutes. I think there are very
>few, though, and determining absolutes is difficult.
I agree. Very few. And even if we knew them, personally, we may not be
able to express that in a way that still conveys Absolute Truth to another.
The presence of absence of Absolutes may not make any difference, since I
know I can never fully apprehend an Absolute if it walks up and greets me.
>
>> >There is hardly consensus, even in evangelical
>> >Christianity (not to mention the rest of Christianity) regarding
>> >Biblical interpretation.
>>
>> So? People sometimes disagree about what is true. This does not negate
>> the fact, however, that there are still absolutes in the universe.
I can't prove the existence of absolutes. I can only rely upon MY experience.
I also trust God's revelation that WE cannot fully comprehend the infinite.
Therefore we can't comprehend the Absolutes. So I don't need them.
I can never know the essence of God, only the energies by and through which
God is manifested to God's creation. So the reality can be that there ARE
absolutes, but it is of no practical importance. It's like claiming that the
original scriptural autographs were perfect, but copies may not be. Swell.
Who cares? It doesn't affect me in any practical useful way. I might as
well believe that God has made a lot of electric blue chickens, and that they
live on Mars. Maybe God did. So what? Is that going to have ANY effect on
how I deal with my neighbor, or God? Whether or not I go to this or that
cafeteria for lunch? No.
This attitude leads many non-Christians to believe that ALL Christians
are arrogant idiots incapable of critical reasoning. Christianity is true,
wonderful and sensible. It appeals to Reason, since Reason is an inner
reflection of the Logos of God. Explanations that violate that simply
appear to be insecure authoritarian responses to a complex world.
NOTE: I'm NOT claiming there is no place for authority. That'd be silly.
There IS a world of difference between authoritative and authoritarian.
Authoritative is en expression of authority that respects others.
Authoritarian is en expression of authority that fails to do that,
and is generally agressive. Good parents (like God) are authoritative.
Many Christians are simply authoritarian, and, not surprisingly, few
adults respond to this treatment.
Larry Overacker (llo@shell.com)
--
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Lawrence Overacker
Shell Oil Company, Information Center Houston, TX (713) 245-2965
llo@shell.com
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From: halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Reply-To: halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat)
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In article <1r3qab$o1v@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>In article <930421.102525.9Y9.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>#frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>#> In article <930420.100544.6n0.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew
>#> <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>#> #This is complete nonsense. Relativism means saying that there is no absolut
>#> #standard of morality; it does NOT mean saying that all standards of morality
>#> #are equally good.
>#>
>#> Presumably this means that some moral systems are better than others?
>#> How so? How do you manage this without an objective frame of reference?
>#
Either Frank O'Dwyer or mathew said:
[...stiff deleted...]
>#Which goes faster, a bullet or a snail? How come you can answer that when
>#Einstein proved that there isn't an objective frame of reference?
[...stiff deleted...]
Speed is a quantifiable measure resulting from a set of methods that
will result in the same value measured no matter the reference. A
bullet with zero velocity sitting on a table on a train moving 60mph
will be moving at a speed of
(a) 0mph to someone on the train.
(b) 60mph to someone stationary next to the train.
The reference frame makes the speed relative. But what's interesting
here is that every person on the train will see a stationary bullet.
Every person off, a bullet moving 60mph.
I know of no train where all the people on it, every time it is
filled, will see a moral problem in exactly the same way.
--
jim halat halat@bear.com
bear-stearns --whatever doesn't kill you will only serve to annoy you--
nyc i speak only for myself
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From: ctd2t@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Dong")
Subject: WANTED:MEMPHIS SUBLET
Organization: University of Virginia
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Non-smoking, normal law student needs furnished place to live in Memphis
this summer. I'll be working at a firm downtown and will have
to pass the bar character examination, so you don't have to worry about
your stuff being broken or stolen. Call Chris at (804)979-2519
or leave e-mail.
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From: elef@smarmy.Eng.Sun.COM (elaine 'beano' leffler)
Subject: Re: Kawi Zephyr? (was Re: Vision vs GpZ 550)
Keywords: Zephyr stock forks BAD. Mushy. Dive.
Article-I.D.: jethro.1psrdn$g3r
Reply-To: elef@smarmy.Eng.Sun.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: SunConnect
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NNTP-Posting-Host: smarmy.eng.sun.com
In article 3126@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu, asphaug@lpl.arizona.edu (Erik Asphaug x2773) writes:
>By the way Bob, er Dave (sorry!), I had read a review that said the 550
>engine was pretty much identical to the GPz, but that the suspension
>and frame is more modern.
the fancy piggyback shocks on the 550 (and the 750, i think. i don't
know about the zr1100) are very nice, 3-way adjustability. the forks
are crappy, they dive like MAD. i had progressive springs installed
and it made a huge difference. cheap fix, MUCH improvement.
elef
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From: brown@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (Robert J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Shaft-drives and Wheelies
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4
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Reply-To: brown@venus.iucf.indiana.edu
Organization: IUCF
Distribution: rec
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In article <Stafford-200493103434@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford) writes...
>>>>>> On 19 Apr 93 21:48:42 GMT, xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu said:
>> Is it possible to do a "wheelie" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive?
>
> Yes, but the _rear_ wheel comes off the ground, not the front.
> See, it just HOPS into the air! Figure.
>John Stafford
Sure you can do wheelies with a shaft drive bike. I had a BMW R100RS
that was a wheelie monster! Of course it didn't have the initial power
burst to just twist it into the air - I had to pop the clutch. I also
had to replace front fork seals a few times as well. The fairing is a
bit heavy to be slamming down onto those little stantion tubes all the
time. But let me give you fair warning: I trashed the ring/pinion gear
in the final drive of my K75 (I assume) doing wheelies. And this was
NO cheap fix either!! There is some kind of "slip" device in the shaft
to prevent IT from breaking. Unfortunately, it didn't save the gears!
On the topic of wheelies, the other day I saw a kid on a big Hurricane
do a "stoppy"(?), or rear wheelie. Man, he had the rear end on this bike
up about 2 feet off the ground at a traffic light. I don't recommend these
activities anymore (now that I'm an "old guy" with kids of my own) but
it looked damn impressive!!
If you can't keep both tires on the ground, at least have 'em pointed
in that direction! :-)
Cheers,
B**2
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From: rgooch@rp.CSIRO.AU (Richard Gooch)
Subject: Re: X11R5 and Open Look
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics/Australia Telescope National Facility
Lines: 16
In article <1993Apr12.155820.82@aedc-vax.af.mil>, bonds@aedc-vax.af.mil writes:
> I am reposting this because I am not sure my first post ever made it out.
> I have built and installed X11R5 on my SPARCstation 2. My aim is to run
> the MIT X server but retain the OpenLook Window Manager. I am sure this
> is not uncommon, but I just want to make sure that I change and/or delete
> everything that I need to. For instance, I can start xdm in rc.local, but
> how do I get rid of Xnews?
>
The OpenLook window manager source is available on the MIT contrib tapes
or from export.lcs.mit.edu .I would suggest building this too, rather than
using the version from OpenWindows. It is olwm v3.
Regards,
Richard Gooch....
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From: moy@cae.wisc.edu (Howard Moy)
Subject: Madison WI summer sublet
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
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Downtown FURNISHED Summer Sublet
May 15 thru Aug 15
Great location at:
215 N. Frances St.
& Johnson St. (Across Witte)
Near Nitty Gritty & Near Howard Johnson
Near State Street & Near South East Dorms
Near University Square & Near SERF
Two bedroom
Your own spacious room
(the larger!)
Laundry available
Parking available
Bathroom
Kitchen
Large Closet
Dual Desks
Just pay for electricity (~$7/month)
Asking $500 for whole summer!
Send inquiries to:
Howard
608-255-6379
moy@cae.wisc.edu
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-Howard
_________________________________________________________
! Howard Moy !
! (608) 255-6379 !
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From: vlasis@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (vlasis theodore)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
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tobias@convex.com (Allen Tobias) writes:
> In article <1993Apr15.024246.8076@Virginia.EDU> ejv2j@Virginia.EDU ("Erik Vel
> >This happened about a year ago on the Washington DC Beltway.
> >Snot nosed drunken kids decided it would be really cool to
> >throw huge rocks down on cars from an overpass. Four or five
> >cars were hit. There were several serious injuries, and sadly
> >a small girl sitting in the front seat of one of them was struck
> >in the head by one of the larger rocks. I don't recall if she
> >made it, but I think she was comatose for a month or so and
> >doctors weren't holding out hope that she'd live.
> >
> >What the hell is happening to this great country of ours? I
> >can see boyhood pranks of peeing off of bridges and such, but
> >20 pound rocks??! Has our society really stooped this low??
> >
> >Erik velapold
>
> Society, as we have known it, it coming apart at the seams! The basic reason
> is that human life has been devalued to the point were killing someone is
> "No Big Deal". Kid's see hundreds on murderous acts on TV, we can abort
> children on demand, and kill the sick and old at will. So why be surprised
> when some kids drop 20 lbs rocks and kill people. They don't care because the
> message they hear is "Life is Cheap"!
>
> AT
Well people fortunatly or unfortunatly ,
only the US is experiencing the devaluation of human life (among
developed nations).
I am an American but I was raised in Europe, where the worst thing that
can happen to somebody is get his car broken into, or have his pocket
picked by Slaves or Russian refugees.
Of cource there will be some nutcases, but thats extremely rare.
I.e. in Greece you can walk through any neighborhood at any time during
the night without even worrying.
In Germany , you can walk the sidewalks at 4.00 am and not even look
behind your back, at the sanitation crews that clean the streets to a
sparkling cleen.
Whoever of you have been there you know what I am saying.
I dont have any easy answers but if we as a nation do some selfcritisism
we might get somewhere.
Of course these postings sould be in soc.culture.US but if we reduce
crime here it 'll mean less car insurance rates ,thus we could spend
more money on modifing our cars. (Now my posting is rec.autos.tech
revelant).
Vlasis Theodore
___________________
Software Engineer
IDB Mobile Communications.
Sig under development ...
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From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber)
Subject: LIST OF TEE TIMES AT METROPOLITAN TORONTO GOLF COURSES FOR MONDAY
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
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;^)
Kevin L. Stamber
Purdue University
...and Phil Kirzyc (The Kielbasa Kid) will roam the Arena for interviews.
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From: hildjj@jupiter.fuentez.COM (Joe Hildebrand)
Subject: Re: question regarding overlaying of graphics
Organization: The Internet
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To: venkatg@grace.cs.orst.edu (Gopal Venkatraman)
Cc: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
> Let's say I have two rectangles on the canvas(see above)
> one intersecting the other...
> Now, I would like to delete one of the rectangles.
> The way I do it is to create another GC wherein I use the
> GXxor logical function and simply redraw the rectangle using the
newly
> created graphics context thus deleting it for all apparent purposes.
> A problem with this approach is that at the points of intersection
the pixel
> locations belonging to the other rectangle also become white, which
is
> something that should be avoided.
You could set up a bitmap with a mask in it. Clear the
bitmap, draw the rectangle to be deleted with GXor. Draw the one
that is to stay with GXclear. Then GXxor the entire pixmap with
the screen.
Note that this is a pretty effective way of animation, if you ever
need to do that (replace the GXclear with a GXxor).
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Joe Hildebrand
hildjj@fuentez.com
Software Engineer
Fuentez Systems Concepts
(703)273-1447
Standard disclaimers apply
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From: lee@tosspot.sv.com (Lee Reynolds)
Subject: CGA card/monitor wanted
Organization: Ludus Associates, Incorporated.
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And again......
title says it all. WHY?
Lee (lee@tosspot.sv.com)
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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH - UPDATE
Nntp-Posting-Host: mushroom.psych.indiana.edu
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<34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
>Ah yes, I see a few liberal weenies have come out of the woodwork
>to defend the burning of the children.
Actually all the liberals I've seen have deplored the burning of
children. I would far preferred that the Davidians had not set the
fire that burned themselves and their children to death, but I don't
believe that the responsibility for the fire (or the almost complete
absense of attempts to escape the blaze) can be placed at the door of
the Federal authorities.
>Probably drooled all over themselves while watching the TV coverage.
Not so. My wife got me a convenient plastic "drip pan" for Christmas...
>Probably had a few like that in Nazi Germany, as well.
Yeah, those Nazis. You know how we liberals just love those Nazis.
>Oh yeah, ATF/FBI now claims, according the the media, that there are
>a few survivors. The number seems to vary minute by minute.
Yeah, as information trickles in... funny how that works...
--
Nathan Engle Software Juggler
Psychology Department Indiana University
nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu nengle@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: rjf@lzsc.lincroftnj.ncr.com (51351[efw]-Robert Feddeler(MT4799)T343)
Subject: Re: centrifuge
Organization: AT&T Middletown N.J. U.S.A.
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Mr. Blue (car@access.digex.com) wrote:
: Could somebody explain to me what a centrifuge is and what it is
: used for? I vaguely remembre it being something that spins test tubes
: around really fast but I cant remember why youd want to do that?
Purely recreational. They get bored sitting in that
rack all the time.
--
bob. | I only smile when I lie,
You can learn more in a bar | And I'll tell you why...
than you can in a lawyer's office. |
Were these more than just my opinions, they would have cost a bit more.
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From: pyeatt@Texaco.com (Larry D. Pyeatt)
Subject: Re: Mix GL with X (Xlib,Xt,mwm)
Nntp-Posting-Host: 211.2.1.197
Organization: Texaco
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In article <9304191540.AA09727@sparc1.jade.com>, graham@sparc1.ottawa.jade.COM (Jay Graham) writes:
|>
|> I am developing an X (Xt,Xm) application that will include a graphics window
|> of some sort with moving symbols among other things. A pure X application
|> could be implemented with Motif widgets, one of which would be an
|> XmDrawingArea for drawing with Xlib. But I would like to take advantage of
|> the Graphics Library (GL) available on our IBM RS/6000 (SGI's GL i believe).
|>
|> Is it possible to mix X and GL in one application program?
|> Can I use GL subroutines in an XmDrawingArea or in an X window opened by me
|> with XOpenWindow?
There is a widget already defined for GL. It is the GlxMDraw (motif) or
GlxDraw (athena) widget. It is similar to a XmDrawingArea, except that it
allows you to use GL calls to render into the window. Look at glxlink,
glxunlink, glxgetconfig, and glxwinset in the man pages.
|> I have never used GL before, but the doc on GL winopen() says that the first
|> time winopen() is called it opens a connection to the server. Also, most of
|> the GL calls do not require a Display or GC, unlike most X calls. From this
|> initial information it appears that X and GL cannot be mixed easily. Is this
|> true?
The GlxMDraw widget works pretty well. OpenGL will be an improvement.
|> Does PEX (graPHIGS?) have the same functionality of GL?
I think GL is a little easier to use and a little more powerful, but
that's just an opinion. Mileage may vary.
--
Larry D. Pyeatt The views expressed here are not
Internet : pyeatt@texaco.com those of my employer or of anyone
Voice : (713) 975-4056 that I know of with the possible
exception of myself.
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From: rosen@kranz.enet.dec.com (Jim Rosenkranz)
Subject: Re: Metal powder,steel,iron.
Reply-To: rosen@kranz.enet.dec.com (Jim Rosenkranz)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
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In article <79557@cup.portal.com>, mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
|>Xref: nntpd2.cxo.dec.com misc.invest:40997 misc.forsale:88577
|>Path: nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!pa.dec.com!e2big.mko.dec.com!uvo.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!portal!cup.portal.com!mmm
|>From: mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson)
|>Newsgroups: misc.invest,misc.forsale
|>Subject: Re: Metal powder,steel,iron.
|>Message-ID: <79557@cup.portal.com>
|>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 08:53:51 PDT
|>Organization: The Portal System (TM)
|>References: <ACpDgohaWA@commed.msk.su>
|>Lines: 4
|>
|>I just love these posts from the ex-Soviet Union. Among the cars, dinette
|>sets, video cameras, etc. every now and then an ad pops up for bee venom,
|>RED OXIDE OF MERCURY, cobalt (100 tons minimum order), etc. Don't they
|>have garage sales in Russia? :-)
|>
It really doesn't strike me as very funny. It is rather indicative of what
a crisis their economy is in. I imagine they are in desparate need of
markets to sustain industries and people which are nolonger under central
control of the government.
--
Jim Rosenkranz rosen@kranz.enet.dec.com
"Never try to teach a pig to sing: it can't be done, and it annoys the pig."
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From: brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615)
Subject: Re: 14 Apr 93 God's Promise in 1 John 1: 7
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.
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In article <bskendigC5I9yH.ICp@netcom.com> bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
>If you can explain to me why the death of Jesus was a *good* thing,
>then I would be very glad to hear it, and you might even convert me.
>Be warned, however, that I've heard all the most common arguments
>before, and they just don't convince me.
Be warned, it is not my job to convert you. That is the job of
the Holy Spirit. And I, frankly, make a lousy one. I am only
here to testify. Your conversion is between you and God. I am
"out of the loop". If you decide to follow Jesus, of which I
indeed would be estatic, then all the glory be to God.
-------------
Brian Ceccarelli
brian@gamma1.lpl.arizona.edu
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From: Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams)
Subject: Re: HELP INSTALL RAM ON CENTRIS 610
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.
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In article <C5115s.5Fy@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
jht9e@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason Harvey Titus) writes:
> I had asked everyone about problems installing a 4 meg
> simm and an 8 meg simm in my Centris 610, but the folks at the
> local Apple store called the folks in Cupertino and found that
> you can't have simms of different speeds in one machine, even
> if they are both fast enough - ie - My 80 ns 8 meg and 60ns 4
> meg simms were incompatibable... Just thought people might
> want to know.....
There's absolutely no reason why differences in the DRAM access time
_alone_ would cause an incompatibility. There would have to be another
difference between the SIMMs for there to be a problem. I've often used
memory of different speeds with no problems whatsoever. As long as it's
as fast (or faster) than the minimum requirement you should be fine.
Just out of curiosity, did you actually try this and see a problem, or
were you told it wouldn't work and so never tried it? Also out of
curiosity, do you know exactly who in Cupertino you dealer talked to (as
I'd like to find out what they're basing this recommendation on).
- Dale Adams
Apple Computer, Inc.
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From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Subject: Re: It's a rush... (was Re: Too fast)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, gwm@spl1.spl.loral.com (Gary W. Mahan) says:
>>Why should a good driver be terrified at 130mph? The only thing I fear
>>going at 130 are drivers, who switch to the left lane without using
>>either rear-view-mirror or flashers. Doing 130 to 150 ain't a rush
>>for me, but it's fun and I get where I want to go much faster.
>
>In defense of the drivers, who are in the right lane. Here in the states, people simply do not expect when they are driving to be overtaken at a speed differential of 50+mph. I don't think this is because they are stupid (of course, there are exceptions), they are just programmed because of the 55mph limit. Do you (in the states) when you look in the rear-view ALWAYS calculate future positions of cars based on a 50+ speed differential.
>Dont get me wrong, I love to drive in the left lane fast but when I overtake
>cars who are on the right, I slow down a tad bit. If I were to rely on the judgement of the other car, to recognize the speed differential, I would be the stupid one.
just to satiate my curiosity, why would this make you the stupid one? It seems
to me, everybody SHOULD be aware enough of what is going on. You do not need
to calculate the future position. You need to look at your mirrors a little
more. If you glance around, you will be able to tell how much faster than you
the car is going. Maybe not precisely, but well enough to know if you should
let him around before you try to pass. I know what you are talking about,
about the other driver being startled, because i myself have been startled
by drivers cruising by at around 90-100mph when i'm doin 55-65. The problem,
though, as i saw it, was not their fault for barreling around me, but my fault
for not paying the attention to my task-at-hand that i should have been.
Oddly enough, since the 2nd time(happened 2x in around 4 mo. when i'd had my
liscence for around 6 mo), i haven't been startled..and i've been passed by
cars doing roughly twice the speed of my car. Another odd occurance is the
fact that this only seems to happen on LONG trips...and if i drive along with
them, it doesn't happen at all :-) even on the long trips! :-) (adrenaline
will do that to you...i've had bad cop experiences with speeding, so anything
over the limit is adrenalizing for me...scared i'll get caught :-) Maybe
they should raise the limit, so we can pay better attention.....
just curious, and my .otwo
DREW
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From: tapscott@adoc.xerox.com (Peter Tapscott)
Subject: For Sale: Harvard Graphics for Windows
Keywords: Harvard Graphics, sale
Organization: Xerox PARC
Distribution: us
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For Sale:
Brand new, shrinkwrapped
HARVARD GRAPHICS FOR WINDOWS
List Price: $500
Cheapest pince in Computer Shopper (mail order): $315
My Price: $250
This is really a slick package, but I won it in a bike race so I
can't return it for credit. My dilemma is your fire sale.
--
** Peter Tapscott, Xerox - Palo Alto Research Center
** Internet: tapscott.adoc@xerox.com XNS Net: Tapscott:PARC:Xerox
** 415 813-6885
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From: ching@fledgling.WPI.EDU (Jay Heminger)
Subject: Re: TIGER STADIUM GIF?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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Originator: ching@fledgling.WPI.EDU
I hate to be rude, but screw the seating chart, post the stadium instead.
--
------------------------THE LOGISTICIAN REIGNS SUPREME!!!----------------------
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| GO BLUE!!! GO TIGERS!!! GO PISTONS!!! GO LIONS!!! GO RED WINGS!!! |
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From: sun075!Gerry.Palo@uunet.uu.net (Gerry Palo)
Subject: Re: Christianity and repeated lives
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In article <May.5.02.52.15.1993.28800@athos.rutgers.edu> JEK@cu.nih.gov writes:
>Gerry Palo writes:
>
> > ...there is nothing in Christianity that precludes the idea of
> > repeated lives on earth.
>
>The Apostle Paul (Romans 9:11) points out that God chose Jacob
>rather than Esau to be the ancestor of the Covenant People and
>ultimately of the Messiah, and that He made this choice while the
>two boys were still in their mother's womb, and therefore could not
>possibly have done anything good or evil to deserve their appointed
>destinies. If we admit the possibility that they had lived previous
>lives, and that (in accordance with the Asiatic idea of "karma")
>their present lives are a reward or punishment for past behaviour,
>this makes nonsense of Paul's whole point.
>
The existence of repeated earth lives and destiny (karma) does not
mean that everything that happens is predetermined by past deeds.
There is an oriental view of it that tends in that direction, but I
did not subscribe to that view. God may choose one individual over
another as the fit instrument for his plans, but that does not
preclude that the development of that individual into what he is in
this earthly life is not the result of a longer course of development.
I do not, and Rudolf Steiner did not, subscribe to the oriental view
of an inexorable, mechanistic karma determining everything that
befalls one. This is a kind of shriveled caricature of a much greater
law in the context of which the deed of Christ on Golgotha and the
ultimate salvation and freedom of the human being as a working of
Christ can be seen as the master theme and, indeed, a new impulse that
was completely free of karma. Christ incarnated only once in the
flesh, and in that he had no debt of karma or sin. The oriental
concepts of reincarnation and karma, which are even more trivialized
and mechanized in some new age teachings, incorrectly assume Jesus
Christ to have been the reincarnation of a master. avatar, etc.
Their teaching of reincarnation and karma also has no concept the
continuing individuality from one life to the next (e.g. Buddhism).
More important, they have no concept of the resurrection of the body,
the ultimate continuity of the whole human being -- to ultimate
resurrection and judgement on the Last Day.
There is another biblical passage that also has a bearing. It is the
tenth chapter of John, devoted almost entirely to the man born blind.
Clearly here, Jesus tells the disciples that it was not his past karma
or that of his parents that led to his blindness, but rather that a
new impulse is to be revealed through him. But note that he does not
refute the disciples' question. In fact, they ask it as a matter of
course, the question being stated as if it were self evident that only
one of two possibilities existed - it was either the sins of the man
himself, obviously not in this incarnation, or the sins of his
parents. The fact that they even asked about the first possibility at
all indicates an awareness of the idea on their part and the form of
Christ's answer indicates that he did not disagree with it.
There is also Matthew 11:14, where Jesus says straight out about John
the Baptist,
"If you care to accept it, he himself is Elias, who was to come."
This also emphasizes that the Gospels do not have a positive teaching
either way about reincarnation -- or, in fact, about what happens to
the human being at all between death and the Last Day. Even Jesus did
not push this teaching on people who were not ready to embrace it ("If
you care to accept it"). So I took care to point out, not that the
Bible teaches reincarnation but that it does not deny it either, and
that much in both scripture and fundamental Christian doctrine becomes
understandable if reincarnation is understood in the right way. I
pointedly used "repeated earth lives" to distinguish a little from the
oriental doctrines usually associated with the word "reincarnation".
The phrase is Rudolf Steiner's (wiederholte Erdenleben). He noted too
that the idea needed to arise as a new insight in the west, completely
free from eastern tradition. It did in the eighteenth and nineteenth
centuries, the most important expression of it being Lessing's "The
Education of the Human Race".
To return to your original point, Paul's statement about Jacob and
Esau does not contradict the idea of repeated earth lives and karma.
And both of these principles receive their fulfillment in the
incarnation, death, and resurrection, ascension and return of Jesus
Christ, in my view.
Regards,
Gerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
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From: npm@netcom.com (Nancy P. Milligan)
Subject: Re: Need advice with doctor-patient relationship problem
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
I'd dump him. Rude is rude and it seems he enjoys belittling and
humiliating you. But don't just dump him, write to him and tell
him why you are firing him. If you can, think about sending a copy
of your letter to whoever is in charge of the clinic where he works,
if applicable, or maybe even to the AMA. Don't be vindictive in
your letter, be truthful but VERY firm.
But don't be a victim and just put up with it. Take control! It'll
make you feel great!
Nancy M.
--
Nancy P. Milligan npm@netcom.com
or
npm@dale.cts.com
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From: ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu (Joni Ciarletta)
Subject: Master Cylinder
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Distribution: world
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Thanks to everyone who responded to my Honda Accord break question.
It does seem that the master cylinder is bad. I will have my
mechanic double check and be sure it isn't something simpler
and cheaper first, but from your responses it sounds like it
is very likely to be the master cylinder.
Thanks everyone!!
Joni
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From: ka2czu@cbnewsh.att.com
Subject: Christians in the Martial Arts
Organization: AT&T
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Greetings and Salutations!
I would like to get in touch with people who
(a) consider themselves Christians (you define it), and
(b) are in the Martial Arts
Some topics for discussion:
- your particular martial art
- your view of the relationship between
Christianity and your art
- your view of the relationship between
*your* Christianity and your art
- why should a Christian participate in MA
- why shouldn't a Christian participate in MA
- Biblical views of MA; pro or con.
For example, I heard from one fellow:
"...I tried the Karate for Christ thing and it wasn't for me..."
- why or why not?
As an aside, I am involved (in *NO* official way) with an
organization called the Christian Black Belt Association and
I would also like to distribute info regarding upcoming events
to *those who are interested*. No, you won't be put on any
"mailing list" nor will your name be "sold".
However, if you ARE intested in an email list, let me know.
I am interested in email replies ONLY as this is cross-posted
to groups I don't normally read. If anyone wants a summary
or, of course, on-going discussion, then let me know.
Shalom,
Robert Switzer
ka2czu@cbnewsh.att.com
--
Bell Labs, 200 Laurel Ave., 2b-334, Middletown, NJ 07748-4801 USA (908)957-2923
...-.- Amateur Radio Operator KA2CZU Robert Switzer
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From: dsc@gemini.gsfc.nasa.gov (Doug S. Caprette)
Subject: CS chemical agent
Organization: CDP VLBI
Lines: 10
Can anyone provide information on CS chemical agent--the tear gas used recently
in WACO. Just what is it chemically, and what are its effects on the body?
dsc@gemini.gsfc.nasa.gov
| Regards, | Hughes STX | Code 926.9 GSFC |
| Doug Caprette | Lanham, Maryland | Greenbelt, MD 20771 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"A path is laid one stone at a time" -- The Giant
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From: pes@hutcs.cs.hut.fi (Pekka Siltanen)
Subject: Re: detecting double points in bezier curves
Nntp-Posting-Host: hutcs.cs.hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Lines: 26
In article <1993Apr19.234409.18303@kpc.com> jbulf@balsa.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Bulf) writes:
>In article <ia522B1w165w@oeinck.waterland.wlink.nl>, ferdinan@oeinck.waterland.wlink.nl (Ferdinand Oeinck) writes:
>|> I'm looking for any information on detecting and/or calculating a double
>|> point and/or cusp in a bezier curve.
>|>
>|> An algorithm, literature reference or mail about this is very appreciated,
>
>There was a very useful article in one of the 1989 issues of
>Transactions On Graphics. I believe Maureen Stone was one of
>the authors. Sorry not to be more specific. I don't have the
>reference here with me.
Stone, DeRose: Geometric characterization of parametric cubic curves.
ACM Trans. Graphics 8 (3) (1989) 147 - 163.
Manocha, Canny: Detecting cusps and inflection points in curves.
Computer aided geometric design 9 (1992) 1-24.
Pekka Siltanen
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From: dwestner@cardhu.mcs.dundee.ac.uk (Dominik Westner)
Subject: need a viewer for gl files
Organization: Maths & C.S. Dept., Dundee University, Scotland, UK
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NNTP-Posting-Host: cardhu.mcs.dundee.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Hi,
the subject says it all. Is there a PD viewer for gl files (for X)?
Thanks
Dominik
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From: DAK988S@vma.smsu.edu
Subject: Re: Good Neighbor Political Hypocrisy Test
Organization: SouthWest Mo State Univ
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>>In article <1993Apr15.021021.7538@gordian.com> mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>>>In article <C5HuH1.241@news.iastate.edu>, jrbeach@iastate.edu (Jeffry R Beach) writes:
>>>> Think about it -- shouldn't all drugs then be legalized, it would lower
>>>> the cost and definitely make them safer to use.
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> I don't think we want to start using these criterion to determine
>>>> legality.
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>
>>Where do they get these people?! I really don't want to waste time in
>>here to do battle about the legalization of drugs. If you really want to, we
>>can get into it and prove just how idiotic that idea is!
You think that you all have it bad....here at good ol' Southwest Missouri
State U., we have 2 parties running for student body president. There's the
token sorority/fraternity faces, and then there's the president and vice
president of NORML. They campaigned by handing out condoms and listing
their qualifications as,"I listen really well." It makes me sick to have
a party established on many of the things that are ruining this country like
they are. I think I'll run next year.:(
Darin J Keener, dak988s@vma.smsu.edu
PC-the idea that catering to splinter groups is the way to go.
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From: rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy)
Subject: Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
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In article <C5K5LC.CyF@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@hopper.Virginia.EDU (La
wrence C. Foard) writes:
>In article <15378@optilink.com> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>>
>>
>>From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2:
>>
>> Male sex survey: Gay activity low
>>
>> A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough
>> examination of American men's sexual practices published since
>> the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2
>> percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and
>> 1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual.
>>
>> The figures on homosexuality in the study released Wednesday
>> by the Alan Guttmacher Institute are significantly lower than
>> the 10 percent figure that has been part of the conventional
>> wisdom since it was published in the Kinsey report.
>
>1) So what?
So there are less gays, then the gays claim.
>
>2) It will be interesting to see the reaction when 2.5million queers
> gather in Washington DC. After all if there are only 6million of
> us then this is an event unprecidented in history...
>
Dream on. Abortion and African-American Civil rights rallies don't even bring
in half of that.
>>The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners.
>>The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.
>
>Don't forget that 25% had 20 or more partners....
>
I was wondering why I wasn't getting laid.
>>Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson,
>>and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that
>>homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general
>>male population.
>
>And what did this study show for number of sexual contacts for those
>who said they where homosexual? Or is that number to inconvient for
>you....
>
If it's more, then who cares?
>>It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for
>>straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically
>>how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are.
>
>Fuck off
>
Actually, I bet you more gay/bi men are as not as promiscuous as gay men,
because more of them could have the "option" of living a straight life, and
with social pressures, probably would at least try.
>--
>------ Join the Pythagorean Reform Church! .
>\ / Repent of your evil irrational numbers . .
> \ / and bean eating ways. Accept 10 into your heart! . . .
> \/ Call the Pythagorean Reform Church BBS at 508-793-9568 . . . .
>
Did you know that is is a fact that homosexuality was comparatively high in
Hitler's storm troopers (SA) before he came to power. I wonder if they got to
put the triangles on themselves......
Ryan
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From: brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615)
Subject: Re: 14 Apr 93 God's Promise in 1 John 1: 7
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Brian Kendig writes:
> Lev 17:11: For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given
> it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is
> the blood that makes atonement for the soul.
>
>The Old Testament was very big on the "eye for an eye" business. It
>makes sense that Leviticus would support physical injury to "repay"
>moral wrongdoing.
Brian K., guess what? You missed the point. On a scale from cold to
hot, you are at 0 degrees Kelvin.
>I know about sanctification. I've been taught all about it in Sunday
>school, catechism class, and theology classes. But even after all
>that, I still can't accept it. Maybe I'm still not understanding it,
>or maybe I'm just understanding it all too well.
Then as you understand it, what is it?
>From the bottom of my heart I know that the punishment of an innocent
>man is wrong.
Yes. I agree with that. But what does that have to do with Jesus?
Punishment you say? Jesus did not regard his death as punishment.
>I've tried repeatedly over the course of several years
>to accept it, but I just can't.
Good. I wouldn't either--not the way you understand it.
>If you can explain to me why the death of Jesus was a *good* thing,
>then I would be very glad to hear it, and you might even convert me.
>Be warned, however, that I've heard all the most common arguments
>before, and they just don't convince me.
Ask Jesus himself. He himself said why in John 12:23-32. It
isn't a mystery to anyone and there certainly is no need for
a persuasive argument. Read Jesus's own reply to your
question.
Jesus gives more reasons in John 16:7. But one obvious reason
why Jesus died, (and as with everything else, it has nothing do with
his punishment) was that he could rise to life again--so that
we would "stop doubting and believe" (John 21:27). The fact
that Jesus rose from the dead is my hope that I too will rise
from the dead. It is an obvious point. Do not overlook it.
Without this obvious point, I would have no hope
and my faith would be vanity.
Why did Jesus suffer in his death? Again, ask Jesus. Jesus
says why in John 15:18-25. That's no mystery either. "The
world hates him without reason." It is a direct proclamation
of how far we humans botch things up and thus, how much we
need a Saviour.
And why can't you, Brian K., accept this? How can you? "The
world cannot accept him because it neither sees him nor knows
him." (John 14:17). The animosity and the lack of knowledge
that comes out in your twistings of Robert's daily verses is
very convincing testimony of the truth of John 14:17 and 16:25.
I pray and hope that I do blurt out such animosity and lack of
knowledge. I am not perfect either. But regardless of that, I thank
God that Jesus revealed himself to me, without whom I'd also be
bumbling about blindly though arrogantly slandering the very
Person who created me and who loves me.
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From: tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock)
Subject: Re: was:Go Hezbollah!
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>In article <1993Apr16.130037.18830@ncsu.edu>, hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu
(Brad Hernlem) writes:
>|>
>|> In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu
(Tim Clock) writes:
>|>
>|> Are you suggesting that, when guerillas use the population for cover,
>|> Israel should totally back down? So...the easiest way to get away with
>|> attacking another is to use an innocent as a shield and hope that the
>|> other respects innocent lives?
> Tell me Tim, what are these guerillas doing wrong? Assuming that they are
> using civilians for cover,
"Assuming"? Also: come on, Brad. If we are going to get anywhere in
this (or any) discussion, it doesn't help to bring up elements I never
addressed, *nor commented on in any way*. I made no comment on who is
"right" or who is "wrong", only that civilians ARE being used as cover
and that, having been placed "in between" the Israelis and the guerillas,
they *will* be injured as both parties continue their fight.
[The *purpose* of an army's use of military uniforms
is *to set its members apart* from the civilians so that
civilians will not be thought of by the other side as
"combatants". So, what do you think is the "meaning behind",
the intention and the effect when an "army" purposely
*does not were uniforms but goes out of its way to *look
like civilians'? *They are judging that the benefit they will
receive from this "cover" is more important that the harm
that will come to civilians.*
This is a comment on the Israeli experience and is saying
that the guerillas *do* have some responsibility in putting civilians
in "the middle" of this fight. By putting on uniforms and living apart
from civilians (barracks, etc.), the guerillas would significantly lower
the risk to civilians.
But if the guerillas do this aren't *they* putting themselves
at greater risk? Absolutely, they ask themselves "why set
ourselves apart (by wearing uniforms) when there is a ready-made
cover for us (civilians)? That makes sense from their point of
view, BUT when this cover is used, the guerillas should accept
some of the responsibility for subsequent harm to civilians.
> If the buffer zone is to prevent attacks on Israel, is it not working? Why
> is it further neccessary for Israeli guns to pound Lebanese villages? Why
> not just kill those who try to infiltrate the buffer zone? You see, there
> is more to the shelling of the villages.... it is called RETALIATION...
> "GETTING BACK"..."GETTING EVEN". It doesn't make sense to shell the
> villages. The least it shows is a reckless disregard by the Israeli
> government for the lives of civilians.
I agree with you here. I have always thought that Israel's bombing
sortees and bombing policy is stupid, thoughtless, inhumane AND
ineffective. BUT, there is no reason that Israel should passive wait
until attackers chose to act; there is every reason to believe that
"taking the fight *to* the enemy" will do more to stop attacks.
As I said previously, Israel spent several decades "sitting passively"
on its side of a border and only acting to stop these attacks *after*
the attackers had entered Israeli territory. It didn't work very well.
The "host" Arab state did little/nothing to try and stop these attacks
from its side of the border with Israel so the number of attacks
were considerably higher, as was their physical and psychological impact
on the civilians caught in their path.
>
>|> What?So the whole bit about attacks on Israel from neighboring Arab states
>|> can start all over again? While I also hope for this to happen, it will
>|> only occur WHEN Arab states show that they are *prepared* to take on the
>|> responsibility and the duty to stop guerilla attacks on Israel from their
>|> soil. They have to Prove it (or provide some "guaratees"), there is no way
>|> Israel is going to accept their "word"- not with their past attitude of
>|> tolerance towards "anti-Israel guerillas in-residence".
>|>
> If Israel is not willing to accept the "word" of others then, IMHO, it has
> no business wasting others' time coming to the peace talks.
This is just another "selectively applied" statement.
The reason for this drawn-out impasse between Ababs/Palestinians and Israelis
is that NEITHER side is willing to accept the Word of the other. By your
criteria *everyone* should stay away from the negotiations.
That is precisely why the Palestinians (in their recent PISGA proposal for
the "interim" period after negotiations and leading up to full autonomy) are
demanding conditions that essentially define "autonomy" already. They DO
NOT trust that Israel will "follow through" the entire process and allow
Palestinians to reach full autonomy.
Do you understand and accept this viewpoint by the Palestinians?
If you do, then why should Israel's view of Arabs/Palestinians
be any different? Why should they trust the Arab/Palestinians' words?
Since they don't, they are VERY reluctant to give up "tangible assets
(land, control of areas) in exchange for "words". For this reason,
they are also concerned about the sorts of "guarantees" they will have
that the Arabs WILL follow through on their part of any agreement reached.
>
>But don't you see that the same statement can be made both ways?
>If Lebanon was interested in peace then it should accept the word
>of Israel that the attacks were the cause for war and disarming the
>Hizbollah will remove the cause for its continued occupancy.
Absolutely, so are the Arabs/Palestinians asking FIRST for the
Israelis "word" in relation to any agreement? NO, what is being
demanded FIRST is LAND. When the issue is LAND, and one party
finally gets HOLD of this "land", what the "other party" does
is totally irrelevent. If I NOW have possession of this land,
your words have absolutely no power; whether Israel chooses to
keeps its word does NOT get the land back.
>Afterall, Israel has already staged two parts of the withdrawal from
>areas it occupied in Lebanon during SLG.
>
> Tim, you are ignoring the fact that the Palestinians in Lebanon have been
> disarmed. Hezbollah remains the only independent militia. Hezbollah does
> not attack Israel except at a few times such as when the IDF burned up
> Sheikh Mosavi, his wife, and young son.
While the "major armaments" (those allowing people to wage "civil wars")
have been removed, the weapons needed to cross-border attacks still
remain to some extent. Rocket attacks still continue, and "commando"
raids only require a few easily concealed weapons and a refined disregard
for human life (yours of that of others). Such attacks also continue.
> Of course, if Israel would withdraw from Lebanon
> and stop assassinating people and shelling villages they wouldn't
> make the Lebanese so mad as to do that.
Bat guano. The situation you call for existed in the 1970s and attacks
were commonplace.
>Furthermore, with Hezbollah subsequently disarmed, it would not be possible.
There is NO WAY these groups can be effectively "disarmed" UNLESS the state
is as authoritarian is Syria's. The only other way is for Lebanon to take
it upon itself to constantly patrol the entire border with Israel, essentially
mirroring Israel's border secirity on its side. It HAS TO PROVE TO ISREAL that
it is this committed to protecting Israel from attack from Lebanese territory.
>
>|> Once Syria leaves who is to say that Lebanon will be able to retain
>|> control? If Syria stays thay may be even more dangerous for Israel.
>|>
> Tim, when is the last time that you recall any trouble on the Syrian border?
> Not lately, eh?
That's what I said, ok? But, doesn't that mean that Syria has to "take over"
Lebanon? I don't think Israel or Lebanon would like that.
>
What both "sides" need is to receive something "tangible". The Arabs/
Palestinians are looking for "land" and demanding that they receive it
prior to giving anything to Israel. Israel has two problems: 1) if it
gives up real *land* it IS exposing itself to a changed geostrategic
situation (and that change doesn't help Israel's position), and 2) WHEN
it gives up this land IT NEEDS to receive something in return to
compensate for the increased risks
Tim
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From: patrickd@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lazer)
Subject: 68040 Specs.
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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I'd appreciate it greatly if someone could E-mail me the following:
(if you only know one, that's fine)
1) Specs for the 68040 (esp. how it compares to the Pentium)
2) Specs for the 68060 with estimated cost, release date, etc...
I'm interested in speeds, systems it can run (Windows NT, RISC, or whatever),
costs, bus info, register info. All the technical info.
I am hoping that the 68040 can win yet another battle against the intel people.
:) Thanks for any info you can give.
Thanks.
--
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InterNet: patrickd@wpi.wpi.edu| and Co-sysop of L/A Blues BBS!
lazer@lablues.UUCP | Call L/A Blues BBS (207-777-3465 or 777-7782)
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From: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Subject: Re: Frequent nosebleeds
Reply-To: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
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In article <1993Apr17.195202.28921@freenet.carleton.ca>,
ab961@Freenet.carleton.ca (Robert Allison) writes:
>
>
> I have between 15 and 25 nosebleeds each week, as a result of a genetic
> predisposition to weak capillary walls (Osler-Weber-Rendu).
> Fortunately, each nosebleed is of short duration.
>
> Does anyone know of any method to reduce this frequency? My younger
> brothers each tried a skin transplant (thigh to nose lining), but their
> nosebleeds soon returned. I've seen a reference to an herb called Rutin
> that is supposed to help, and I'd like to hear of experiences with it,
> or other techniques.
> --
My 6 year son is so plagued. Lots of vaseline up his nose each night seems
to keep it under control. But let him get bopped there, and he'll recur for
days! Also allergies, colds, dry air all seem to contribute. But again, the
vaseline, or A&D ointment, or neosporin all seem to keep them from recurring.
Bev Zalan
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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Subject: Re: An Anecdote about Islam
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In article <16BB112949.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
>In article <115287@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>>>>>A brutal system filtered through "leniency" is not lenient.
>>>>Huh?
>>>How do you rate public floggings or floggings at all? Chopping off the
>>>hands, heads, or other body parts? What about stoning?
>>I don't have a problem with floggings, particularly, when the offenders
>>have been given a chance to change their behavior before floggings are
>>given. I do have a problem with maiming in general, by whatever means.
>>In my opinion no-one who has not maimed another should be maimed. In
>>the case of rape the victim _is_ maimed, physically and emotionally,
>>so I wouldn't have a problem with maiming rapists. Obviously I wouldn't
>>have a problem with maiming murderers either.
>May I ask if you had the same opinion before you became a Muslim?
Sure. Yes, I did. You see I don't think that rape and murder should
be dealt with lightly. You, being so interested in leniency for
leniency's sake, apparently think that people should simply be
told the "did a _bad_ thing."
>And what about the simple chance of misjudgements?
Misjudgments should be avoided as much as possible.
I suspect that it's pretty unlikely that, given my requirement
of repeated offenses, that misjudgments are very likely.
>>>>>>"Orient" is not a place having a single character. Your ignorance
>>>>>>exposes itself nicely here.
>>>>>Read carefully, I have not said all the Orient shows primitive machism.
>>>>Well then, why not use more specific words than "Orient"? Probably
>>>>because in your mind there is no need to (it's all the same).
>>>Because it contains sufficient information. While more detail is possible,
>>>it is not necessary.
>>And Europe shows civilized bullshit. This is bullshit. Time to put out
>>or shut up. You've substantiated nothing and are blabbering on like
>>"Islamists" who talk about the West as the "Great Satan." You're both
>>guilty of stupidities.
>I just love to compare such lines to the common plea of your fellow believers
>not to call each others names. In this case, to substantiate it: The Quran
>allows that one beATs one's wife into submission.
Really? Care to give chapter and verse? We could discuss it.
>Primitive Machism refers to
>that. (I have misspelt that before, my fault).
Again, not all of the Orient follows the Qur'an. So you'll have to do
better than that.
Sorry, you haven't "put out" enough.
>>>Islam expresses extramarital sex. Extramarital sex is a subset of sex. It is
>>>suppressedin Islam. That marial sexis allowed or encouraged in Islam, as
>>>it is in many branches of Christianity, too, misses the point.
>>>Read the part about the urge for sex again. Religions that run around telling
>>>people how to have sex are not my piece of cake for two reasons: Suppressing
>>>a strong urge needs strong measures, and it is not their business anyway.
>>Believe what you wish. I thought you were trying to make an argument.
>>All I am reading are opinions.
>It is an argument. That you doubt the validity of the premises does not change
>it. If you want to criticize it, do so. Time for you to put up or shut up.
This is an argument for why _you_ don't like religions that suppress
sex. A such it's an irrelevant argument.
If you'd like to generalize it to an objective statement then
fine. My response is then: you have given no reason for your statement
that sex is not the business of religion (one of your "arguments").
The urge for sex in adolescents is not so strong that any overly strong
measures are required to suppress it. If the urge to have sex is so
strong in an adult then that adult can make a commensurate effort to
find a marriage partner.
Gregg
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From: bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner)
Subject: Re: some thoughts.
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Kent Sandvik (sandvik@newton.apple.com) wrote:
: In article <11838@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>, bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert
: Beauchaine) wrote:
: > Someone spank me if I'm wrong, but didn't Lord, Liar, or Lunatic
: > originate with C.S. Lewis? Who's this Campollo fellow anyway?
: I do think so, and isn't there a clear connection with the "I do
: believe, because it is absurd" notion by one of the original
: Christians (Origen?).
There is a similar statement attributed to Anselm, "I believe so that
I may understand". In both cases reason is somewhat less exalted than
anyone posting here could accept, which means that neither statement
can be properly analysed in this venue.
Bill
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From: parys@ccsua.ctstateu.edu
Subject: Re: A Message for you Mr. President: How do you know what happened?
Keywords: Success
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I told some friends of mine two weeks ago that Koresh was dead. The FBI and
the BATF could not let a man like that live. He was a testimonial to their
stupidity and lies.
Now before everyone gets crazy with me, let me say that Koresh was crazy as
a bed bug, but out government was crazier...and they lied to us.
They told us compound had been under survaillance for quite some time. Yet,
whoever was watching the place failed to see that Koresh went jogging and into
town on a regular basis. Everyone in the area claimed to have seen him and
wondered why they didn't pick him up then. There are two possible answers.
First, they didn't see him. What kind of survaillance is that? Second, they
didn't care. They wanted a confrontation. They wanted publicity and they got
it.
After the first battle, they told us that they did not know he knew they were
coming. They also said it would have been foolish to go in knowing that.
Well, we know now that they intercepted the informants call and went in anyway.
Did they explore all of the possibilities for ending the seige? According to
them they did, but according to the Hartford Courant, the woman that raised
Koresh (His Grandmother) was not allowed to go in and see him.
The FBI agent who she spoke with was Bob Ricks and according to the paper he
said:
"A lot of people think if you just talk to them logically they will come out.
His grandmother raised Vernon Howell; (Koresh's Real name) she didn't raise
David Koresh."
Someone who raises you and loves you does not speak to you strickly on a
logical level. There is also an emotional level on which they can reach you.
Here's another one. All during this operation the FBI has been claiming that
they feared a mass suicide and that is one of the reasons that something must
be done. Now they claim they never thought he would do it?
I knew they were going to do something when they started talking about how
much money this was costing. That was the start of the "Justification" part
part of the plan. That's when I knew it would come soon.
But, back to the plan. It is considered "Cruel and Unusal Punishment" to
execute criminals in the minds of many people, but look at what's acceptable.
They knew the parents (adults) had gas masks. They did not know, or were not
sure, if the children had them. So the plan was to pour the gas into the
compound. The mothers, seeing what the gas was doing to their children were
supposed to run out and that would only leave the men to deal with.
I spent two years in the army and like everyother veteran I went through CBR
(Chemical, Biological Radiological) warfare training. Part of that training
is going into a room filled with the same stuff that the children were
subjected to. To make the stuff really interesting the gas also has a chemical
agent that irritates the skin. You think its on fire.
I have no doubts the children would become hysterical. Its not the kind of
thing you never want to do again. This was the plan, the final solution.
We waited 444 days for our hostages to come home from Iran. We gave these
people 51 days.
I stated on several occasions that there was absolutely nothing in this whole
thing that the government could point to as a success. Well, FBI agent Ricks
changed my mind. Again a newclip from the Hartford Courant:
"And while expressing regret at the loss of life, he suggested that the
operation had been at least a modified success because not a single federal
shot had been fired and not a single federal agent had been hurt."
It took 17 dead children to get us that new definition of success.
One more thought. The government claimed that they believed he had automatic
weapons on the premises.
HE HAD A LICENSE FOR THE 50 CALIBER MACHINE GUN!
THEY KNEW DAMN WELL HE HAD ONE. THEY ALSO KNEW HE HAD IT LEGALLY!
Still, without the element of surprise they sent in agents to get him.
For all of this my President takes full responsibility. What a guy!
I hope he gets it.
In article <exuptr.1431.0@exu.ericsson.se>, exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor, The Sounding Board) writes:
> In article <11974@prijat.cs.uofs.edu> bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>
>>Before you go absolving the BATF & FBI of all blame in this incident, you should
>>probably be aware of two important facts.
>>1. There is no such thing as non-toxic tear gas. Tear gas is non-breathable
>> remaining in it's presence will cause nausea and vomiting, followed eventually
>> by siezures and death. Did the FBI know the physical health of all the people
>> they exposed?? Any potential heart problems among the B-D's??
>
> No doubt it is dangerous stuff when concentrated.
>
>>2. Have you ever seen a tear gas canister?? Tear gas is produced by burning a
>> chemical in the can. The fumes produced are tear gas. The canister has a
>> warning printed on the side of it. "Contact with flamable material can result
>> in fire." Now, how many of these canisters did they throw inside a building
>> they admited was a fire-trap??
>
> None. They used non-incindiary methods, which means they produced the gas
> outside the building and pumped it in via the tanks.
>
> ---
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From: ata@hfsi.hfsi.com ( John Ata)
Subject: Re: DID HE REALLY RISE???
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In article <Apr.21.03.26.43.1993.1373@geneva.rutgers.edu> parkin@Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>desperately wanted the Jewish people to accept him as the Messiah. If
>the crucification was the will of God how could Jesus pray that this
>cup pass from him. Was this out of weakness. NEVER. Many men and
>women have given their lives for their country or other noble causes.
>Is Jesus less than these. No he is not. He knew the crucification
>was NOT the will of GOD. God's will was that the Jewish people accept
>Jesus as the Messiah and that the kingdom of Heaven be established on
>the earth with Jesus as it's head. (Just like the Jewish people
>expected). If this had happened 2000 years ago can you imagine what
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.
.
Why do you assume that Jesus's plea to His Father "to let this cup
pass from Him", was merely a plea to escape death? When I look at
Jesus in the garden, I see a Man-God, who all His life had had the
presense of His Father with Him. As a result, He knew every
detail about His death long before the Agony in the Garden. But
as that hour approached, He felt abandoned by His Father, His
presense diminishing with each passing minute. In addition, it
was brought more and more to Jesus's attention (the betrayal of
Judas was probably a big impact) that His suffering would be to no
avail for many people, especially those who would reject Him, not
only then but in the future. I truly believe that the majority of
Jesus's suffering was mental and spiritual, while the physical
portion was only the tip of the iceburg.
BTW, we know from John's account that Jesus *shunned* becomming an earthly
king. From John:
JOH 6:14 After the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus did, they
began to say, "Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the
world."
JOH 6:15 Jesus, knowing that they intended to come and make him king by
force, withdrew again to a mountain by himself.
This does not seem like a man who would regret not becoming an
earthly king. No, Jesus knew His mission was to redeem all (Jew &
Gentile) people and establish His kingdom in the hearts of those
who would believe. This was utterly mistaken, much to Jesus's
dismay, as an aspiration to some earthly kingdom. But He knew
what His Father's will was and followed it obediently even in the
darkness of His Passion.
--
John G. Ata - Technical Consultant | Internet: ata@hfsi.com
HFS, Inc. VA20 | UUCP: uunet!hfsi!ata
7900 Westpark Drive MS:601 | Voice: (703) 827-6810
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From: ekalenda@netcom.com (Edward J Kalenda)
Subject: Re: overlapped window without a title bar
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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From article <1rc07h$ern@olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com>, by manu@oas.olivetti.com (Manu Das):
>
> I have a overlapped window(say V) which has few child windows (a,b,c, etc)
> The window shows up with all it's children fine. Now, I create another
> child(t) with a WS_THICKFRAME style and placed on top of one or more of
> it's siblings. Style WS_THICKFRAME is used so that I can resize it. How do
> I make sure that the child 't' will always be at the top of it's siblings.
> I used SetWindowPos() and BringWindowToTop() without success. What's happening
> is that while I am resizing 't' it shows up but as soon as I let go, it goes
> behild it's siblings.
The window is probobly on top but the lower windows are drawing over it.
Try using WS_CLIPSIBLING to keep the lower siblings from drawing on the
top sibling's space.
--
Ed
ekalenda@netcom.COM
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From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Subject: Re: Building a UV flashlight
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In article <C5r6Lz.n25@panix.com> jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson) writes:
>One other thing: a friend of mine mentioned something about near-UV
>light being cheaper to get at than actual UV light. Does anyone
>know what he was referring to?
I don't want to get into a semantic argument, but contrary to some other
postings "near UV light" /is/ "actual UV light." The "near" means that
it is close to the visible spectrum (i.e. of relatively long wavelength),
not that it is "nearly UV." (I'm sure you can figure out now just what
"far UV" is.)
Regular incandenscent flashlight bulbs emit tiny amounts of UV in the
near end of the spectrum, such that a filter can be used to remove the
visible light and thus create a weak UV source. Stronger sources are
going to require gas (probably mercury vapor) discharge tubes (such as
fluorescent tubes with UV phosphor). Be careful, though; strong UV
sources can cause physiological damage, especially to the eyes. The
shorter wavelengths are the most dangerous.
It wouldn't project a beam like a flashlight, but replacing the tubes
in a portable fluorescent lantern with UV tubes would be a relatively
cheap way to create a portable source. It would be bright enough to
be useful, but not dangerously so.
-Ed Hall
edhall@rand.org
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From: warped@cs.montana.edu (Doug Dolven)
Subject: Mel Hall
Organization: CS
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Has anyone heard anything about Mel Hall this season? I'd heard he wasn't
with the Yankees any more. What happened to him?
Doug Dolven
--
Doug Dolven
warped@cs.montana.edu
gdd7548@trex.oscs.montana.edu
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From: pbenson@ecst.csuchico.edu (Paul A. Benson)
Subject: CD-ROM Indexes available
Organization: California State University, Chico
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NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu
The file and contents listings for:
Knowledge Media Resource Library: Graphics 1
Knowledge Media Resource Library: Audio 1
are now available for anonymous FTP from cdrom.com
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From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: *** NeXTstation 8/105 For Sale ***
Article-I.D.: magnus.1993Apr6.013611.3796
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Nntp-Posting-Host: bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
NeXTstation 25MHz 68040 8/105
Moto 56001 DSP
Megapixel (perfect - no dimming or shaking)
keyboard/mouse (of course :)
2.1 installed
2.1 docs
Network and System Administration
User's Reference
Applications
The NeXT Book, by Bruce Webster (New Copy)
Black NeXTconnection modem cable
30 HD disks (10 still in unwrapped box, others for backing up
apps)
I NEED to sell this pronto to get a car (my engine locked up)!
Machine runs great... only used in my house. Has been covered when
not in use on the days I wasn't around.
$2,300 INCLUDING Federal Express Second Day Air, OR best offer, COD to
your doorstep (within continental US)!! I need to sell this NOW, so
if you don't agree with the price, make an offer, but within reason.
;)
Thanks,
JT
(please no letters asking me to donate for a tax break)
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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>Much though it might be fun to debate capital punishment itself,
>this is probably the wrong group for it. The only relevance here
>is that you don't seem to be able to tell us what capital punishment
>actually is, and when it is murder. That is, when you tell us murder
>is wrong, you are using a term you have not yet defined.
Well, I've said that when an innocent person has been executed, this is
objectively a murder. However, who is at blame is another question.
It seems that the entire society that sanctions any sorts of executions--
realizing the risks--is to blame.
>There is a *probability* of
>killing an innocent person by shooting at random into the air, and
>there is a *probability* of killing an innocent person when the
>state administers a system of capital punishment. So when you do
>either, you know that they actions you are taking will sooner or
>later result in the killing of an innocent person.
Yes, but there is also a probablity that you will kill someone doing
any raondom activity. Presumably, you had not isolated yourself totally
from the rest of society because of this.
>>And, driving will kill people, as will airlines, but people continue to do
>>both.
>Driving and flying are not punishments inflicted on unwilling
>prisoners by Courts. They are risks that we take upon ourselves
>willingly.
And I argue that our law system is a similar risk. Perhaps an innocent
person will be punished someday, but we work to prevent this. In fact,
many criminals go free as a result of our trying to prevent punishment
of innocents.
>If our own driving kills someone else, then sure, there is a moral
>issue. I know at least one person who was involved in a fatal
>accident, and they felt vey guilty afterwards.
But, such accidents are to be totally expected, given the numner of vehicals
on the road. Again, the blame is on society.
>>No I'm not. This is what you said. You were saying that if there were such
>>a false witness that resulted in an innocent person being convicted and killed
>>, it would still be the fault of the state, since it did the actual killing.
>No, I just commented that the state does the killing. It does not
>depend on there being false witnesses. How could it? The state
>does the killing even in the case of sincere mistakes
Yes, but the state is not at fault in such a case. The state can only do
so much to prevent false witnesses.
>>It is possible. So, what are you trying to say, that capital punishment
>>is always murder because of the possibilty of human error invalidating
>>the system?
>I'm saying capital punishment is murder, period. Not because of
>this that and the other, but because it involves taking human life.
>That's *my* definition of murder. I make no appeals to dictionaries
>or to "objective" morals.
Okay, so this is what you call murder. But, the question is whether or not
all such "murders" are wrong. Are you saying that all taking of human life
is wrong, no matter what the circumstances?
>If we, as a society, decide to murder someone, then we should say
>that, and lists our reasons for doing so, and live with the moral
>consequences. We should not play word games and pretend that
>murder isn't murder. And that's *my* opinion about how society
>ought to be run.
But, this is basically how it works. Society accepts the risk that an
innocent person will be murdered by execution. And, every member of
society shares this blame. And, most people's definitions of murder
include some sort of malicious intent, which is not involved in an
execution, is it?
>>But, we were trying to discuss an objective moral system, or at least its
>>possibilty. What ramifications does your personal system have on an
>>objective one?
>No, we were not discussing an objective moral system. I was showing
>you that you didn't have one, because, for one thing, you were incapable
>of defining the terms in it, for example, "murder".
Murder violates the golden rule. Executions do not, because by allowing
it at all, society implicitly accepts the consequences no matter who the
innocent victim is.
>>We're not talking about reading minds, we are just talking about knowing the
>>truth. Yes, we can never be absolutely certain that we have the truth, but
>>the court systems work on a principle of knowing the "truth" "beyond a
>>reasonable doubt."
>Sorry, but you simply are not quoting yourself accurately. Here
>is what you said:
> "And, since we are looking totally objectively at this case,
> then we know what people are thinking when they are voting to
> execute the person or not. If the intent is malicious and
> unfair, then the execution would be murder."
>What you are doing now is to slide into another claim, which is
>quite different. The jury being *persuaded* beyond a serious
>doubt is not the same as us knowing what is in their minds beyond
>a serious doubt.
Reading the minds of the jury would certainly tell whether or not a conviction
was moral or not. But, in an objective system, only the absolute truth
matters, and the jury system is one method to approximate such a truth. That
is, twelve members must be convinced of a truth.
>Moreover, a jury which comes from a sufficiently prejudiced background
>may allow itself to be persuaded beyond a serious doubt on evidence
>that you and I would laugh at.
But then, if we read the minds of these people, we would know that the
conviction was unfair.
>>But, would it be perfectly fair if we could read minds? If we assume that
>>it would be fair if we knew the absolute truth, why is it so much less
>>fair, in your opinion, if we only have a good approximation of the absolute
>>truth?
>It's not a question of fairness. Your claim, which I have quoted
>above is a claim about whether we can *know* it was fair, so as to
>be able to distinguish capital punishnment from murder.
Yes, while we could objectively determine the difference (if we knew all
possible information), we can't always determine the difference in our
flawed system. I think that our system is almost as good as possible,
but it still isn't objectively perfect. You see, it doesn't matter if
we *know* it is fair or not. Objectively, it is either fair or it is not.
>Now there's a huge difference. If we can read minds, we can know,
>and if we cannot read minds, we can know nothing. The difference
>is not in degree of fairness, but in what we can know.
But what we know has no effect on an objective system.
>>I think it is possible to produce a fairly objective system, if we are
>>clear on which goals it is supposed to promote.
>I'm not going to waste my time trying to devise a system that I am
>pretty sure does not exist.
Why are you so sure?
>I simply want people to confront reality. *My* reality, remember.
Why is *your* reality important?
>In this case, the reality is that, "ideal theories' apart, we can
>never know, even after the fact, about the fairness of the justice
>system. For every innocent person released from Death Row, there
>may have been a dozen innocent people executed, or a hundred, or
>none at all. We simply don't know.
But, we can assume that the system is fairly decent, at least most likely.
And, you realize that the correctness of our system says nothing about a
totally ideal and objective system.
>Now what are we going to do? On the one hand, we can pretend
>that we have an 'ideal' theory, and that we can know things we can
>never know, and the Justie System is fair, and that we can wave a
>magic wand and make certain types of killing not murder, and go
>on our way.
Well, we can have an ideal system, but the working system can not be ideal.
We can only hope to create a system that is as close an approximation to
the ideal system as possible.
>On the other hand, we can recognize that all Justice has a small
>- we hope - probability of punishing the innocent, and that in the
>end we do bear moral responsibility even for the probabilistic
>consequences of the systems we set up, and then say, "Well, here
>we go, murdering again." Maybe some of us will even say "Gee, I
>wonder if all this is strictly necessary?"
Yes, we all bear the responsibility. Most people seem willing to do this.
>I think that the second is preferable in that if requires people
>to face the moral consequences of what we do as a society, instead
>of sheltering ourselves from them by magic ceremonies and word
>games.
We must realize the consequences of all our actions. Why do you keep
separating the justice system from the pack?
>And lest I forget, I also don't think we have an objective moral
>system, and I believe I only have to take that idea seriously
>when someone presents evidence of it.
I don't think our country has an objective system, but I think such an
objective system can exist, in theory. Without omniscience, an objective
system is not possible in practice.
keith
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From: bear@kestrel.fsl.noaa.gov (Bear Giles)
Subject: Re: Fifth Amendment and Passwords
Organization: Forecast Systems Labs, NOAA, Boulder, CO USA
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In article <1993Apr20.000359.20098@bernina.ethz.ch> caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Germano Caronni) writes:
>
>Just a question.
>As a provider of a public BBS service - aren't you bound by law to gurantee
>intelligble access to the data of the users on the BBS, if police comes
>with sufficent authorisation ? I guessed this would be a basic condition
>for such systems. (I did run a bbs some time ago, but that was in Switzerland)
That sounds like an old _Dragnet_ episode.
"Joe and I went to the apartment of Prime Suspect. Nobody answered the
door, but his landlord gave us permission to search the apartment."
Perhaps that worked in California in the 60's, but as I understand the
law landlords do _not_ have authority to grant permission to search space
rented by a third party, provided the lease is not in default, etc.
(I'm not even sure if they can provide the master key, when shown a search
warrant, since the _subject_ of the search is supposed to be notified).
At this point the question becomes: did the user "rent" the disk space
her encrypted file occupies? If she did, it _should_ fall under the same
body of case law that applies to apartments, storage lockers, etc. (As
to whether any court would recognize this fact....) If she did not (i.e.,
no compensation exchanged), I don't know how it would be treated -- there
doesn't seem to be a non-cyberspace equivalent.
--
Bear Giles
bear@fsl.noaa.gov
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: X-Soviet Armenia denies the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <C5LxEw.9p0@panix.com> mpoly@panix.com (Michael S. Polymenakos) writes:
> Maybe with the availability of anon servers some people are beginning to
>speak out?
I sure hope so. Because, the unspeakable crimes of the Armenians must
be righted. Armenian invaders burned and sacked the fatherland of
Urartus, massacred and exterminated its population and presented to
the world all those left from the Urartus, as the Armenian civilization.
All reliable Western historians describe how Armenians ruthlessly
exterminated 2.5 million Muslim women, children and elderly people of
Eastern Anatolia and how they collaborated with the enemies of the
Ottoman Empire between 1914-1920.
It is unfortunately a truth that Armenians are known as collaborators
of the Nazis during World War II and that, even today, criminal/Nazi
members of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle preach and instigate
racism, hatred, violence and terrorism among peoples.
And x-Soviet Armenia continues its anti-Turkish policy in the following
ways:
1. x-Soviet Armenia denies the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide
in order to shift international public opinion away from its political
responsibility.
2. x-Soviet Armenia, employing ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism
Triangle and criminal/Nazi Armenians, attempts to call into question the
veracity of the Turkish Genocide.
3. x-Soviet Armenia has also implemented state-sponsored terrorism through
the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle in an attempt to
silence the Turkish people's vehement demands and protests.
4. Using all its human, financial, and governmental resources, x-Soviet
Armenia and its tools in the United States attempt to silence through
terrorism, bribery and other subversive methods, non-Turkish supporters
of the Turkish cause, be they political, governmental and humanitarian.
Using all the aforementioned methods, the x-Soviet Armenian government
is attempting to neutralize the international diplomatic community from
making the Turkish Case a contemporary issue.
Yet despite the efforts of the x-Soviet Armenian government and its terrorist
and revisionist organizations, in the last decades, thanks to the struggle
of those whose closest ones were systematically exterminated by the Armenians,
the international wall of silence on this issue has begun to collapse, and
consequently a number of governments and organizations have become
supportive of the recognition of the Turkish Genocide.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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From: boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle)
Subject: Re: New break pads & exhausts after 96K km (60K mi) on '90 Maxima?
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
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In article <1993Apr16.000601.14223@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> rkim@eecg.toronto.edu (Ryan Kim) writes:
>
>Hi, maybe someone can help me here...
>I am looking to buy this 1990 Nissan Maxima GXE for CDN$14000 right now.
So its an automatic? Don't know if US spec=CDN spec. for Maximas.
>The car has 96000 km (or about 60000 miles) on it.
>A typical mileage for 1990 cars seem to be about 70000 km (or about 43K mi).
>The seller just informed me that when he brought the car in for certification
>he was told that the front break pads and the exhausts had to be replaced
>to meet the legal standards. (He said he will replace the components before
>selling the car to me.)
>
>Being copmletely ignorant to the technical stuff on cars, I don't know
>what this could mean...
>Is 96K km about the time typical for replacing the above mentioned items?
>Or is this an indication that the car was abused?
If it is the first set of brake pads on front, then this is fine. My car
eats a set every 15k miles or so. The fact that he is replacing the
muffler too is also ok.
>Would other things break down or have to be replaced soon?
The mileage is fairly low - but typical fwd stuff is CV joints. Check
the maintenance records with the manufacturers requirements for valve
adjustments, timing belt changes and so on.
The 60k mile service is often expensive, so make sure he has done everything.
>The seller told me that he used the car on the highway a lot, but,
>I don't know how to verify this... I've seen the paint chipped away
>in tiny dots in the front edge of the hood, though.
>
Well, this is one of the commonly cited methods for identifying a
car with highway miles.
Might check the gas pedal wear too. Ask him how many sets of tires he
has been through. A highway car might have squeezed by on 2 sets,
a hard driven car 6-10 sets.
>Although the Maxima is an excellent car and the car is very clean and
>well kept, it's currently out of warranty
>(a similarly priced '90 Accord with 70K km will have 2 years or 30K km
>worth of warranty left) and I don't want to worry about paying for
>any repair bills...
Well, the Maxima should be pretty reliable - but if its out of warranty
you should get it checked out by someone knowledgeable first. Stuff
for Japanese cars can be expensive.
>But, I also need a car for 5 people...
>
>When will the new Maxima come out, by the way?
1995 model year, I believe.
>
>I would very much appreciate your input in this.
>Please reply by e-mail (preferred) or post in this newsgroup.
Craig
>Thanks!
>
>Ryan
>
>
>
>========
>Ryan Kim
>University of Toronto, EECG, Computer Graphics rkim@eecg.toronto.edu
>"Do not weave between traffic cones at road works."
> - from the new British Highway Code
> (Toronto Star April 3, 1993)
>
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From: joshuaf@yang.earlham.edu
Subject: Re: TIFF -> Anything?!
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana
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In article <1993Apr23.033843.26854@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
> There is a program called Graphic Workshop you can FTP from
> wuarchive. The file is in the msdos/graphics directory and
> is called "grfwk61t.zip." This program should od everthing
> you need.
>
> --
>
> TMC
> (tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.ca)
THANKS! It did work, and it is just what I needed thanks...
Joshuaf
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From: ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten)
Subject: MS-Windows graphics viewer?
Keywords: ms windows jpeg gif tiff
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Reply-To: ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten)
Organization: Trent University
Howdy all,
I was wondering if people could e-mail me their opinions on
the various graphics viewers available for MS-Windows 3.x... I'm
working on a project to set up our scanner and write documentation on
how to use it and it would be nice to have a snazzy image viewer
to look at (and maybe even edit?) the image you just scanned.
The file formats I'm looking for:
GIF
JPEG
TIFF
PCX
whatever other 'major' file formats there are.
Thanks a lot for your help
Grant
--
Grant Totten, Programmer/Analyst, Trent University, Peterborough Ontario
GTotten@TrentU.CA Phone: (705) 748-1653 FAX: (705) 748-1246
========================================================================
In the days of old,
When Knights were bold,
And women were too cautious;
Oh, those gallant days,
When women were women,
And men were really obnoxious ...
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From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a Local BUS (Cached) IDE Controller
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Distribution: usa
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In article <1993Apr16.074836.6819@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu writes:
>| I would like to hear the net.wisdom and net.opinions on IDE Controllers.
>| I would liek to get a IDE controller card for my VLB DX2 66 Motherboard.
>| What are good options for this (preferably under $200). It MUST also work
>| under OS/2 and be compatible with Stacker (and other Disk Compression S/W).
>I have a Maxtor 212MB on an ISA IDE controller, although my machine is
>DX2/66 VLB. I has the save transfer rate of 0.647 MB/s regardless of
>the variations of the ISA bus speed. I tested it with speed between
>5.5MHz and 8.33MHz. Not _any_ difference. The problem is not the
>interface between the controller and the memory.
>
>My advice: Buy 4Megs of RAM, save $70 and enjoy performance.
Computer: 286-25 mhz
Bus: ISA (12.5 mhz)
Drive: Maxtor 7213A (213 mb)
config.sys / autoexec.bat
MS DOS 5 no WIN 3.1
smartdrv.sys cache smartdrv.exe
CORE (V 2.7) 6950 k/sec 1390 k/sec 1395 k/sec
Norton SI (V 5.0) 730 k/sec 980 k/sec 982 k/sec
I'd still like to here from people with VLB-IDE.
I still want to know what VLB bus speed is used with IDE drives.
I still want to know if some (most ?) IDE drives can handle bus speeds > 8 mhz.
PS: A friend with a 286-20 and a new Maxtor 7245 (245 meg IDE) drive gets
between 800 - 1000 k/sec (can't remember exactly). I think the bus is running
at 8 mhz in this case.
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: My New Diet --> IT WORKS GREAT !!!!
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
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In article <1993Apr22.001642.9186@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes:
>>>>Can you provide a reference to substantiate that gaining back
>>>>the lost weight does not constitute "weight rebound" until it
>>>>exceeds the starting weight? Or is this oral tradition that
>>>>is shared only among you obesity researchers?
>>>
>>>Annals of NY Acad. Sci. 1987
>>>
>>Hmmm. These don't look like references to me. Is passive-aggressive
>>behavior associated with weight rebound? :-)
>
>I purposefully left off the page numbers to encourage the reader to
>study the volumes mentioned, and benefit therefrom.
>
Good story, Chuck, but it won't wash. I have read the NY Acad Sci
one (and have it). This AM I couldn't find any reference to
"weight rebound". I'm not saying it isn't there, but since you
cited it, it is your responsibility to show me where it is in there.
There is no index. I suspect you overstepped your knowledge base,
as usual.
--
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From: rjh@allegra.att.com (Robert Holt)
Subject: Re: ALL-TIME BEST PLAYERS
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ
Lines: 78
In article <1993Apr15.162313.154828@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jsr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN STEPHEN RANDOLPH) writes:
>In article <1993Apr13.115313.17986@bsu-ucs>, 00mbstultz@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes
>:
>>I've recently been working on project to determine the greatest
>>players at their respective postions. My sources are Total Baseball,
>>James' Historical Abstract, The Ballplayers (biography), word of
>>mouth, and my own (biased) opinions...
>>
>>Feel free to comment, suggest, flame (whatever)...but I tried
>>to be as objective as possible, using statistical data not inlcuded
>>for time/convience's sake. (I judged on Rel. BA, Adj OPS, Total Average,
>>fielding range/runs, total player rating (Total Baseball), stolen bases
>>(for curiosity's sake), TPR/150 g, and years played/MVP.
>>
>>3B
>> 1) Mike Schmidt
>> 2) Ed Matthews
One "t" in "Eddie Mathews"!
>> 3) George Brett
>> 4) Wade Boggs
>> 5) Ron Santo
>> 6) Brooks Robinson
>> 7) Frank Baker
>> 8) Darrell Evans
>> 9) Pie Traynor
>>10) Ray Dandridge
>>
>How can Brooks be # 6? I think he would at least be ahead of Ron Santo.
>
Because a small advantage in fielding ability comes nowhere near
making up for the large difference in hitting. Their average
seasons, using their combined average 656 (AB + BB) per 162 games:
Years AB H R 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB AVG OBP SLG OPS
Santo 14.10 577 160 81 26 5 24 94 268 79 .277 .366 .464 .830
Robinson 17.55 607 162 70 27 4 15 77 243 49 .267 .325 .401 .726
Fielding, we have, per 162 games at third,
Years P A DP E PCT
Santo 13.15 149 348 30 24 .954
Robinson 17.72 152 350 35 15 .971
Even if Robinson's extra 3 putouts, 2 assists, and 5 DPs are taken to mean
he was responsible for 10 more outs in the field, that doesn't make up
for the extra 28 outs he made at the plate, not to mention the fewer
total bases. The difference of .104 in OPS should be decreased by about
.025 to account for Wrigley, but a .079 difference is still considerable.
The Thorn & Palmer ratings are
Adjusted Adjusted Stolen Fielding Total
Production Batting Runs Base Runs Runs Rating
Santo 123 284 -14 137 41.7
Robinson 105 52 -5 151 19.8 (26.3)
Usual disclaimers about T&P's FR apply, but they really shouldn't be
way off the mark in this comparison. At least it's better than fielding
percentage: Carney Lansford has a .966 , 10th best all-time, but -225 FR,
dead last of all time. Also, since this total rating compares players
to league average instead of replacement level, Robinson should be
awarded an extra 6.5 or so for playing 653 more games. He had a great
career, but I would prefer Santo's plus 4 years of a replacement level 3Bman.
But I would knock Traynor off the list and replace him by Stan Hack.
That's a similar story, Hack's far better hitting outweighs Traynor's
superior fielding. Graig Nettles and Buddy Bell would also be better
choices (IMHO of course, though some recent net discussion supports
this point of view.)
>
>>CF
>> 7) Andre Dawson
Shouldn't that be right field?
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From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Defensive Averages 1988-1992, Third Base
Summary: career defensive averages at third
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Lines: 68
Compiled from the last five Defensive Average reports, here are the career
DAs for the individual players in the reports. Stats are courtesy of
Sherri Nichols. Players are listed in descending order.
Third Basemen
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Name 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 88-92
Mitchell, Kevin .690 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.690
Gonzales, Rene .685 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.685
Leius, Scott ---- ---- ---- .653 .680 0.672
Pendleton, Terry .692 .685 .631 .689 .634 0.667
Ventura, Robin ---- ---- .641 .647 .677 0.657
Wallach, Tim .728 .674 .600 .630 .665 0.657
Gruber, Kelly .717 .657 .580 .630 .664 0.650
Pagliarulo, Mike .631 ---- .575 .744 ---- 0.649
Harris, Lance ---- ---- .642 .652 ---- 0.648
Howell, Jack .656 .666 .609 ---- ---- 0.647
Williams, Matt ---- ---- .633 .653 .656 0.647
Caminiti, Ken ---- .675 .630 .653 .596 0.642
Sabo, Chris .751 .626 .616 .613 .575 0.642
Gaetti, Gary .616 .638 .655 .632 ---- 0.637
Buechele, Steve .647 .616 .647 .681 .599 0.635
Salazar, Luis ---- .617 .643 .637 ---- 0.632
Pecota, Bill ---- ---- ---- .629 ---- 0.629
Schmidt, Mike .628 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.628
Riles, Ernie ---- .627 ---- ---- ---- 0.627
Boggs, Wade .643 .659 .550 .653 .634 0.626
Martinez, Egdar ---- ---- .621 .645 .599 0.624
Molitor, Paul .633 .617 ---- ---- ---- 0.624
Phillips, Tony ---- ---- .623 ---- ---- 0.623
*NL Average* .643 .625 .602 .623 .603 0.619
Brookens, Tom .616 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.616
King, Jeff ---- ---- .616 ---- ---- 0.616
Seitzer, Kevin .654 .583 .593 ---- .635 0.616
*AL Average* .641 .612 .604 .620 .602 0.615
Jacoby, Brook .624 .621 .600 ---- .597 0.613
Hansen, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .611 0.611
Law, Vance .635 .576 ---- ---- ---- 0.611
Magadan, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .609 0.609
Jefferies, Greg ---- ---- ---- ---- .606 0.606
Sharperson, Mike ---- ---- .606 ---- ---- 0.606
Zeile, Todd ---- ---- ---- .614 .593 0.605
Baerga, Carlos ---- ---- ---- .604 ---- 0.604
Hayes, Chris ---- .601 .622 .606 .574 0.602
Livingstone, Scott ---- ---- ---- ---- .597 0.597
Hamilton, J. .611 .584 ---- ---- ---- 0.595
Kelly, Pat ---- ---- ---- .595 ---- 0.595
Lyons, Steve .590 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.590
Oberkfell, Ken .590 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.590
Johnson, Howard .628 .549 .611 .573 ---- 0.588
Bell, Buddy .587 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.587
Lansford, Carney .620 .578 .594 ---- .550 0.587
Presley, Jim .643 .595 .530 ---- ---- 0.584
Schu, Rick ---- .584 ---- ---- ---- 0.584
Worthington, Cal ---- .583 .575 ---- ---- 0.580
Hollins, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .577 0.577
Sheffield, Gary ---- ---- .584 ---- .567 0.575
Blauser, Jeff ---- .573 ---- ---- ---- 0.573
Fryman, Travis ---- ---- ---- .571 ---- 0.571
Gantner, Jim ---- ---- ---- .570 ---- 0.570
Gomez, Lee ---- ---- ---- .551 .542 0.546
Palmer, Dean ---- ---- ---- ---- .520 0.520
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"It is considered good to look wise, especially when not
overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Rockies need some relief
Nntp-Posting-Host: bruno.cs.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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Once again, the Rockies bullpen fell apart. Andy Ashby pitched six (somewhat
shaky) innings giving up just one run. Then game the dreaded relief. Three
picthers combined to give up 3 runs (one each I believe) in the 7th inning
and blew the save opportunity. (Final was 4-2 vs Expos).
Despite their problems in the pen, I think the Rockies are a team that wont
be taken lightly. Going into today's game, the had the league's leading
hitter and RBI man (Galarraga), two of the leaders in stolen bases (Young
and Cole) and increasingly strong starting pitching.
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From: mccoy@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel McCoy)
Subject: Re: Title for XTerm
Reply-To: mccoy@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: I-NET Inc.
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In article 1r3fe2INN10d@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE, markhof@ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Ingolf Markhof) writes:
|>In article <1quh74$r71@irz401.inf.tu-dresden.de>, beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck) writes:
|>|>
|>|> In article <C5oL74.3B1@aeon.in-berlin.de>, thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) writes:
|>|> |> >Hey guys!
|>|> |> >I work on many stations and would like this name and current logname
|>|> |> >to be in a title of Xterm when it's open and a machine name only
|>|> |> >when it's closed. In other words, I want $HOST and $LOGNAME to appear
|>|> |> >as a title of opened XTerm and $HOST when XTerm is closed.
|>|> |> >How can I do it?
|>|> |> Almost all window managers (twm, mwm, olwm and their derivates) support
|>|> |> escape sequences for it. For your purpose put following into your
|>|> |> .login (if you're using csh or tcsh), for sh you have to modify it.
|>|> |>
|>|> |> if ( "$term" == "xterm" ) then
|>|> |> echo "^[]2;${LOGNAME}@${HOST}^G^[]1;${HOST}^G"
|>|> |> endif
|>|> 1) This is NOT a feature of the Window Manager but of xterm.
|>|> 2) This sequences are NOT ANSI compatible, are they ?
|>|> Does anyone know IF there are compatible sequences for this and what they
|>|> are ? I would think they are DCS (device control sequence) introduced,
|>|> but may be a CSI sequence exists, too ?
|>|> This MUST work on a dxterm (VT and ANSI compatible), it may not work
|>|> on xterms.
|>It works on xterms. At least I have no problem with it. - Back to the original
|>question:
|>
|>I usually start new xterms by selecting the proper menu entry in my desktop
|>menu. Here is a sample command:
|>
|> xterm -sl 999 -n ls12i -title ls12i -e rlogin ls12i &
|>
|>The -n and -title options give the text for window and icon. As I use the
|>tcsh (a wonderful extension of the csh), I can do the following:
|>
|>I have an
|>
|> alias precmd echo -n '^[]2\;${HOST}:$cwd^G'
|>
|>in my ~/.tcshrc. This is a special alias for tvtwm. It is executed each time
|>before printing the prompt. So, I have the current host name and the current
|>directory path in the title bar of my xterms.
Have you gotten an answer yet? Using your variables, this is what I would do:
xterm -T "$HOST - $LOGNAME" -n "$HOST"
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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Subject: Re: Why Is Tax Evasion Not Considered Unpatriotic?
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA
Lines: 37
In <1993Apr2.125134.3780@hemlock.cray.com> rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Ben's dad) writes:
|In article <C4tAuw.Mrz@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
|> In article <1pasrg$ife@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
|>
|> | The title is self-explanatory; Isaac Asimov once pointed out
|> |that curious fact.
|>
|> Are you saying that it should be considered unpatriotic if you do not give
|> everything you own to the state.
|Are you saying that it should be considered unpatriotic if you do not give
|your *life* in battle for the state? The PC (Patrioticly Correct) certainly
|think so.
|> I thought that kind of system collapsed
|> when the Soviet Union did.
|No, the pentagon is still standing and collecting names for the draft.
|> If that's not what you meant. At what point does paying more taxes cease
|> being patriotic?
|Your money or your life. Which is more important?
Nice dodge. I give it a 9.2.
Now to answer your questions. I do not believe that there should be a
draft. The armed services should be voluntary. Can you say the same
about taxes.
I've answered your question. Would you now answer mine.
--
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
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From: cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu ( )
Subject: Re: Cubs behind Marlins? How?
Article-I.D.: agate.1pt592$f9a
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
gajarsky@pilot.njin.net writes:
morgan and guzman will have era's 1 run higher than last year, and
the cubs will be idiots and not pitch harkey as much as hibbard.
castillo won't be good (i think he's a stud pitcher)
This season so far, Morgan and Guzman helped to lead the Cubs
at top in ERA, even better than THE rotation at Atlanta.
Cubs ERA at 0.056 while Braves at 0.059. We know it is early
in the season, we Cubs fans have learned how to enjoy the
short triumph while it is still there.
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From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks)
Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...)
Summary: More on limiting libertarians
Organization: Free the Barbers, Inc.
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Nntp-Posting-Host: thor.isc-br.com
In article <18APR199320091677@venus.tamu.edu> gmw0622@venus.tamu.edu (Mr. Grinch) writes:
>In article <1993Apr18.174237.11229@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes...
>>
>
>Okay, let me try to explain this.
>
>When one votes for such a creature as a Senator or, worse yet, a President,
>one votes not for specific policies but for a general package which must cover
>all issues for 4 or 6 years. As such, one's influence is highly diluted.
>I might add that, even if one were free to vote on individual regulations,
>the vast amount of time required for considering a particular regulation,
>combined with the very small chance of one's vote making a difference, would
>make it unreasonable to expect the voter to make an intelligent decision
>with respect to specific regulations.
I'm afraid that I've lost the thread here. I didn't suggest that all
government regulations be subject to referenda. So I don't follow the
comments above.
>>
>>
>:Sorry, but it strikes me that it is the only "feasible" approach. What is
>:not feasible is a wholesale attack on all government regulation and
>:licensing that treats cutting hair and practicing medicine as equivalent
>:tasks.
>
>I'm not sure what you mean by "feasible" in this case. Do you mean that
>[] are impossible in priciple, or merely that it would be undesirable in
>fact?
I mean that an ideology that treats all government regulation as equally
undesirable and seeks to abolish all regulations is unlikely to draw
support among more than a miniscule portion of the electorate.
Furthermore, I am suggesting that such a plan is not feasible in an
industrial society because the weight of litigation and/or misery it
would produce would effectively crush productive effort.
>
>
>:Actually, the only areas of public spending above that strike me as
>:generating substantial support among libertarians are police and defense.
>:(It is an interesting aside that as committed as libertarians claim to
>:be to a principle of non-coercion, the only areas of public spending
>:that they frequently support involve hiring people with guns....hmmm...)
>
>You say this as if it were surprising, yet in fact a necessary consequence
>of libertarian philosophy. All non-coersive functions should be dealt
>with privately, therefore it follows that the only functions remaining to
>the state are the coersive ones.
No, I'm not surprised. I just think it's interesting that on one hand
libertarians assume a limited government can be decreed, yet on the other
posit an entire government made up of people who carry guns. (I realize
that many libertarians assume that such a government will be
counterbalanced by a fully armed citizenry, but it is worth noting that
widespread civilian ownership of guns does not necessarily prevent the
establishment of totalitarian government, e.g. Iraq.)
>
>>
>:Perhaps you have. May I suggest that you consider that revolutionaries
>:frequently generate support by acting as protectors of "geezers,"
>:mothers and children. Governments that ignore such people on the grounds
>:that "we don't have much to fear" from them do so at their own peril.
>
>Much more likely it's drunken teenagers. The groups in questionare more
>likely to be worse off during and after a revolution than before.
>In the unlikely
>event that you missed my earlier sarcasm, let me say this directly:
>The idea that such programs as Social Security or AFDC should be considered
>"defense" (an idea which has been advanced in ths and other newsgroups) is
>so absurd a lie as to be unworthy of consideration. Do you seriously
>dispute this?
Yup, sure do. But since I also support the constitutional requirement
that the government provide for the general welfare (Article I section 8),
I'm willing to justify such programs on that basis.
>
>
> I don't want to seem patronizing, but you still seem to be laboring
>under the delusion that under a socialized economic system it is reasonably
>intelligent and honest persons (like yourself) who make the decisions.
>I feel any third party added to a transaction is every bit as likely to be
>ignorant or corrupt as the buyer or seller. I don't expect you to agree
>with me, but you explain why you feel I'm wrong?
Well, in the first place, I don't support a "socialized economic system."
I think within limits that capitalism is a fine idea. But it is not
the case that "any third party...is...as likely to be ignorant or corrupt
as the buyer or seller." There are multitudes of examples where such a
statement is demonstrably false. Regulation of stock market transactions
that provide a reasonable basis for buyers to avoid fraud is only one
example.
jsh
>Mr. Grinch
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From: crichar@eskimo.com (Craig S. Richardson)
Subject: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series
Article-I.D.: eskimo.C5JCK0.DEA
Distribution: na
Organization: Eskimo North (206) 367-3837 {eskimo.com}
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In article <1993Apr15.123803.4618@webo.dg.com> lyford@dagny.webo.dg.com (Lyford Beverage) writes:
>In article <1993Apr13.202037.9485@cs.cornell.edu>, tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>|> In article <rudyC5Fr3q.1CL@netcom.com> rudy@netcom.com (Rudy Wade) writes:
>|> >In article <C5FMxD.2pM@cs.dal.ca> niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma) writes:
>|> >>. He probably didn't even have as good a season as
>|> >>Alomar last year.
>|> >
[snip]
>|> Uh, yes. Baerga has a lot of flash, but Alomar was the better hitter
>|> last year.
>|>
[stats deleted - we've all seen them by now]
>This is fascinating. You say that Alomar was the better hitter last
>year, and immediately follow that up with numbers showing that Baerga
>had a better year. The only category that I see which shows an advantage
>for Alomar is OBP.
I nominate this last bit for "Anti-Stathead Quote of the Week".
Alomar only has a 50 point advantage in the most important offensive
category, while Baerga, who studied in the Joe Carter School of Out-Burning,
has more impressive mediot stats, largely due to opportunities rather
than quality.
The lines are fairly close in value, but edge to Alomar.
Now Baerga ain't chopped liver, but Alomar is still the man to beat among
AL second basemen...
--Craig
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GM - Pullman Sleepers (OBFBL) GM - Seattle Rainiers (IFL)
GM/Manager - Tacoma Black Adders (IBL) GM - New Jack City Highlanders (KL)
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From: gt0463b@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Davis Smith)
Subject: REAL ESTATE SALE
Article-I.D.: hydra.91506
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
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RESIDENTIAL LOT FOR SALE
I have a nice residential lot available. It is approx-
imately 1/2 acre in size. It is located in the development
called Belvedere Plantation in Pender County, eastern North
Carolina, north of Wilmington. The lot is near the Intra-
Coastal Waterway. Golf and tennis are located on the
development property. Belvedere Plantation also has a mar-
ina facility on the ICW. This lot is nearby to all of the
facilities mentioned.
I own the lot outright but it does not look like I will
get back to the area anytime soon. I would like to sell it
for that reason. Make an offer.
If interested please send E-mail.
gt0463b@prism.gatech.edu. - Mike Smith
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From: donb@netcom.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Guns GONE. Good Riddance !
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 41
In article <1993Apr18.000152.2339@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
writes:
>Of those who vote, your cause is considered an abomination. No matter
>how hard you try, public opinion is set against the RKBA.
Nope. Here in Northern California, a newspaper recently did a survey,
asking if people favored stricter gun controls. A full 40% said no.
Here, in one of the most Liberal (it wasn't always a swear word :( areas
of the country, nearly half the people don't want additional controls, let
alone revocation of RKBA...
>This is the end. By the finish of the Clinton administration, your
>RKBA will be null and void. Tough titty.
Misguided dolt though he may be (though, I still maintain, less dangerous
than Bush), Clinton does not publicly support revoking the second amendment.
>Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect
>them. Resistance is useless. They will overwhelm you - one at a time.
>Your neighbors will not help you. They will consider you more if an
>immediate threat than the abstract 'criminal'.
Well, I'll help MY neighbors...
>Too fucking bad. You have gone the way of the KKK. Violent solutions
>are passe'. Avoid situations which encourage criminals. Then you will
>be as safe as possible. Such as it is ...
Violent solutions are passe'? I take it you propose disarming the police,
then?
Please don't mention RKBA in the same breath as the KKK. RKBA is about
being able to defend yourself and others, not about killing the innocent.
Actually, your mention of the KKK is rather funny, considering that the
first gun control law in the US were created specifically to disarm black
people...
don
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From: Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Assistance to Palest.people
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1483500359:000:3036
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From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Assistance to Palest.people
U.N. General Assembly Resolution 46/201 of 20 December 1991
ASSISTANCE TO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE
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The General Assembly
Recalling its resolution 45/183 of 21 December 1990
Taking into account the intifadah of the Palestinian people in the
occupied Palestinian territory against the Israeli occupation,
including Israeli economic and social policies and practices,
Rejecting Israeli restrictions on external economic and social
assistance to the Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian
territory,
Concerned about the economic losses of the Palestinian people as a
result of the Gulf crisis,
Aware of the increasing need to provide economic and social
assistance to the Palestinian people,
Affirming that the Palestinian people cannot develop their
national economy as long as the Israeli occupation persists,
1. Takes note of the report of the Secretary-General on assistance
to the Palestinian people;
2. Expresses its appreciation to the States, United Nations bodies
and intergovernmental and non-governmental organizations that have
provided assistance to the Palestinian people,
3. Requests the international community, the United Nations system
and intergovernmental and non-governmental organizations to
sustain and increase their assistance to the Palestinian people,
in close cooperation with the Palestine Liberation Organization
(PLO), taking in account the economic losses of the Palestinian
people as a result of the Gulf crisis;
4. Calls for treatment on a transit basis of Palestinian exports
and imports passing through neighbouring ports and points of exit
and entry;
5. Also calls for the granting of trade concessions and concrete
preferential measures for Palestinian exports on the basis of
Palestinian certificates of origin;
6. Further calls for the immediate lifting of Israeli restrictions
and obstacles hindering the implementation of assistance projects
by the United Nations Development Programme, other United Nations
bodies and others providing economic and social assistance to the
Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian territory;
7. Reiterates its call for the implementation of development
projects in the occupied Palestinian territory, including the
projects mentioned in its resolution 39/223 of 18 December 1984;
8. Calls for facilitation of the establishment of Palestinian
development banks in the occupied Palestinian territory, with a
view to promoting investment, production, employment and income
therein;
9. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the General
The General Assembly at its 47th session, through the Economic and Social
Council, on the progress made in the implementation of the present
resolution.
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In favour 137 countries (Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand,
Japan, Africa, South America, Central America and Asia) Against:
United States and Israel Abstaining: None
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From: sp@odin.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Svein Pedersen)
Subject: Utility for updating Win.ini and system.ini
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
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I nead a utility for updating (deleting, adding, changing) *.ini files for Windows.
Do I find it on any FTP host?
Svein
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From: pp@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (peter.peng)
Subject: 1990 Integra LS for sale
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: nj
Keywords: for sale integra
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********* 1990 Integra LS for Sale *********
5 speed, sunroof, rear spoiler, new tires
59.7K miles
$ 7950 or best offer.
call 908-949-0878
908-938-4101
email att!hotsoup!peng
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From: ndd@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Ned Danieley)
Subject: compiling clients on a Sun IPX
Organization: Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory, Duke Univ. Med. Center, Durham, N.C.
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Nntp-Posting-Host: bal1.mc.duke.edu
Originator: ndd@bal1
I'm trying to set up an IPX for another group. I copied all the
X stuff that I compiled on my 4/280 (which runs SunOS 4.1.1) using
gcc 2.1, and most things run just fine. however, I did find a
couple of bugs, and when I try to recompile those clients on the IPX
(which runs 4.1.3), I get
ld: Undefined symbol
_XShapeQueryExtension
_XShapeCombineMask
I know that I can include libXext and get rid of those messages,
but I can't figure out why I get them on the IPX and not on the
4/280. any ideas?
--
Ned Danieley (ndd@sunbar.mc.duke.edu)
Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory
Box 3140, Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC 27710 (919) 660-5111 or 660-5100
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From: umeister@hardy.u.washington.edu (Starfleet Command)
Subject: 256 Color Drivers
Article-I.D.: shelley.1r2p1pINNp6
Reply-To: umeister@u.washington.edu
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu
I would appreciate the driver name from CICA which functions as a 256
color driver for a Quadtel video card. The type of chip or chipset used
would suffice as well.
umeister@u.washington.edu
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From: jslam@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (joseph.lam)
Subject: Re: Request for Islanders e-mail list
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1993Apr5.183014.16567
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T
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In article <1993Apr3.014237.20959@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (BUI/DON/MR) writes:
>In article <16b5xvf@rpi.edu> wangr@rpi.edu writes:
>>>If anyone out there is keeping an Islanders e-mail list, could you
>>>please add me to it? Thanks in advance.
>>
>>>Ercu
>>
>> Can u add me onto the list too....Thanks...
>>
>>Rex
>
>Count me IN !!!!
>
>Go Isles!
>
> -Don
>
>bui@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca
>
Please count me in also...
Just can't tell you how excited I was when the Islanders beat the Rangers
in overtime on last Friday!!!
Go Isles!
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From: Mike Diack <mike-d@staff.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: 16 bit serial converters
X-Xxdate: Tue, 20 Apr 93 06:56:45 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: dialup-slip-1-34.gw.umn.edu
Organization: persian cat & carpet co.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
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Someone was looking for these a few weeks ago - check out comp.dsp
Mike.
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From: reedr@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Q the Lost Gospel
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
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Just finished reading Burton Mack's new book, _The Lost Gospel, Q and Christian
Origins_. I thought it was totally cool. Anyone else read it and want to
talk?
Randy
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From: nataraja@rtsg.mot.com (Kumaravel Natarajan)
Subject: Re: water in trunk of 89 Probe??
Nntp-Posting-Host: opal12
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Lines: 39
jlong@emcnext2.tamu.edu (James Long) writes:
>In article <1r1crn$27g@transfer.stratus.com> tszeto@sneezy.ts.stratus.com
>(Tommy Szeto) writes:
>> Water gradually builds up in the trunk of my friend's 89 Ford Probe. Every
>> once in a while we would have to remove the spare and scoop out the water
>> under the plywood/carpet cover on the trunk. I would guess this usually
>happens
>> after a good thunder storm. A few Qs:
>>
>> 1) Is this a common problem?
>> 2) Where are the drain holes located for the hatch?
>I noticed this is my '89 probe also, when recently cleaning out the back. I
>think the water is coming *up* through some rubber stoppered holes beneath the
>spare. Mine looked slightly worn, and there was no water or water damage above
>the level of the spare area.
>This has taken a low priority since I just found out (while rotating my tires)
>that I have a torn CV boot - ugh!!
I've got an 89 GT. It has the smoked taillight assembly. I think this is where
the water is getting in. When I first got it (had it for a month), one of the rear
taillights fogged up with moisture. I took it in to the dealer and they replaced
the entire assembly. It happened to the other one about 3 months later. This time
I happened to look in the spare tire well and noticed water standing in there. The
dealer was more reluctant this time to replace it. But I convinced them to
fix it. (They must have had to deal with a number of other probes with the same
problem.) I haven't noticed water in the taillamps (or the trunk) for the last 2.5
years, but just last month, the taillamp just fogged up again. I'm going to try
to take it back to get them to fix it again. I'm real tempted to drill some vent
and drain holes in the tops and bottoms of the assembly and forget about it. This is
getting very annoying. (Almost every other `89 GT I've seen has had this problem.)
Vel
--
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-- Vel Natarajan nataraja@rtsg.mot.com Motorola Cellular, Arlington Hts IL --
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From: grogers@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu (Greg Rogers)
Subject: Hey, What about teh Cannucks?
Reply-To: grogers@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu (Greg Rogers)
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Hi all,
Due to living in the Bay Area, I as unable to see Vancouver's victory over
the Jets last night. I know the score, but that rarely describes the game.
Could someone please post a brief sonapsis (sp?) of waht happened. How well
did each team play? Were the cannucks deserving of the victory?
Also, could some kind soul please email me the end of season, individual
player stats?
Greg
-- Vancouver for the cup (in a virtual reality)--
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From: halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat)
Subject: Islam is caused by believing (was Re: Genocide is Caused by Theism)
Reply-To: halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat)
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In article <1993Apr13.173100.29861@ultb.isc.rit.edu> snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.N. Mozumder ) writes:
>>I'm only saying that anything can happen under atheism. Being a
>>beleiver, a knowledgeable one in religion, only good can happen.
This is becoming a tiresome statement. Coming from you it is
a definition, not an assertion:
Islam is good. Belief in Islam is good. Therefore, being a
believer in Islam can produce only good...because Islam is
good. Blah blah blah.
That's about as circular as it gets, and equally meaningless. To
say that something produces only good because it is only good that
it produces is nothing more than an unapplied definition. And
all you're application is saying that it's true if you really
believe it's true. That's silly.
Conversely, you say off-handedly that _anything_ can happen under
atheism. Again, just an offshoot of believe-it-and-it-becomes-true-
don't-believe-it-and-it-doesn't.
Like other religions I'm aquainted with, Islam teaches exclusion and
caste, and suggests harsh penalties for _behaviors_ that have no
logical call for punishment (certain limits on speech and sex, for
example). To me this is not good. I see much pain and suffering
without any justification, except for the _waving of the hand_ of
some inaccessible god.
By the by, you toss around the word knowledgable a bit carelessly.
For what is a _knowledgeable believer_ except a contradiction of
terms. I infer that you mean believer in terms of having faith.
And If you need knowledge to believe then faith has nothing
to do with it, does it?
-jim halat
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From: wally@Auspex.COM (Wally Bass)
Subject: Re: Date is stuck
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara
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Nntp-Posting-Host: alpha1-e5.auspex.com
In article <1993Apr19.055039.29715@oec4.orbital.dialix.oz.au>
oecjtb@oec4.orbital.dialix.oz.au (John Bongiovanni) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>Did I once hear that in order for the date to advance, something, like a
>clock, *has* to make a Get Date system call? Apparently, the clock
>hardware interrupt and BIOS don't do this (date advance) automatically. The
>Get Date call notices that a "midnight reset" flag has been set, and then
>then advances the date.
>
>Anybody with more info?
There are two 'problems':
(1) the BIOS TOD routine which updates the BIOS clock uses only 1 bit
for day increment, so a second wrapping of the clock past midnight
will get lost if no one calls the BIOS to read the clock in the
meantime, and
(2) the BIOS resets the day wrap indicator on the first 'get date'
call from ANYBODY (after the wrap indicator has been set). So
unless the first BIOS 'get date' call after midnight is done by
the DOS 'kernel' (which is the only part of DOS which knows how to
increment the date, the day wrap indication is normally lost.
My guess is that Kevin's 'menu' system uses BIOS calls to read the
clock (in order to display the time), and is hence the entity which
causes the day wrap indication to get lost. Even if the 'menu' system
'notices' the day 'wrap' (which I think is indicated by a non-zero
value in AL), there really isn't any particularly good way to tell DOS
about it, so that DOS can update the day. The menu system 'should' use
DOS calls to get the time, which would cause the DOS 'kernel' to do
the BIOS call, and the wrap indicator would hence be processed
properly. Possibly, though, the 'menu' system can't easily use DOS
calls for time, because DOS is not reentrant, and perhaps time
incrementing ofters occur while the 'menu' system is 'inside' some
other DOS call.
Wally Bass
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From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: what to do with old 256k SIMMs?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
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NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov
In article <C5JCH1.FrC@ulowell.ulowell.edu> wex@cs.ulowell.edu writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.100452.16793@csx.cciw.ca>, u009@csx.cciw.ca (G. Stewart Beal) writes:
>|> > I was wondering if people had any good uses for old
>|> >256k SIMMs. I have a bunch of them for the Apple Mac
>|> >and I know lots of other people do to. I have tried to
>|> >sell them but have gotten NO interest.
>
>We use them as Christmas tree decorations, the cat doesn't eat these.
Yes, but they don't look appropriate. I much prefer used 833 tubes on
my tree.
--scott
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From: oz@ursa.sis.yorku.ca (Ozan S. Yigit)
Subject: Re: Turkish Government Agents on UseNet Lie Through Their Teeth!
In-Reply-To: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org's message of Thu, 15 Apr 1993 20: 45:12 GMT
Organization: York U. Student Information Systems Project
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Davidian-babble:
>The Turkish government feels it can funnel a heightened state of ultra-
>nationalism existing in Turkey today onto UseNet and convince people via its
>revisionist, myopic, and incidental view of themselves and their place in the
>world.
Turkish government on usenet? How long are you going to keep repeating
this utterly idiotic [and increasingly saddening] drivel?
oz
---
life of a people is a sea, and those that look at it from the shore
cannot know its depths. -Armenian proverb
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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Subject: Just what is in the Jobs/Pork bill?
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA
Distribution: usa
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This was in Wed. WSJ.
[start]
The white house, seeking to mount public pressure on GOP senators, bombarded
news outlets in some senator's home states with news releases warning that
certain projects may not be funded if the $16billion stimulus bill isn't
passed.
None of the projects mentioned are actually in the bill, rather they are
part of a wish list that may be funded from the $2.56 billion in
Community Development Block Grants.
...
[end]
I could have sworn I heard a bunch of Clintonites going on and on, raving
about how dishonest it was that the Rebublicans were taking items from this
wish list in order to ridicule this bill. Now that Clinton is using that
same list in order to garner support for the bill, are you guys going to
do the honarable thing and say that Clinton is being dishonest.
--
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
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From: news@cbnewsk.att.com
Subject: Re: anger
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Lines: 31
>Paul Conditt writes:
>>In case you couldn't tell, I get *extremely* angry and upset when
>>I see things like this. Instead of rationalizing our own fears and
>>phobias, we need to be reaching out to people with AIDS and other
>>socially unacceptable diseases. Whether they got the disease through
>>their own actions or not is irrelevant. They still need Jesus...
Aaron Bryce Cardenas) writes:
>The first issue you bring up is your anger. It is "obvious"ly wrong to
>be angry (Gal 5:19-20) for any reason, especially *extremely* angry
>which is on par with hatred. Jesus has every reason to be angry at us
>for putting him on the cross with our sin, yet his prayer was "forgive
>them Father, they know not what they do." ...
I don't know why it is so obvious. We are not speaking of acts of the
flesh. We are just speaking of emotions. Emotions are not of themselves
moral or immoral, good or bad. Emotions just are. The first step is
not to label his emotion as good or bad or to numb ourselves so that
we hide our true feelings, it is to accept ourselves as we are, as God
accepts us. It seems that Paul's anger he has accepted and channeled
it to a plea to all of us to refrain from passing judgement on those
afflicted with a disease and to reach out to others. Give in? Calling
his arguments foolish, belittling them to only quarrels, avoiding action
because of fear to give others a bad feeling, he's not forgiving?
Re-think it, Aaron. Don't be quick to judge. He has forgiven those with
AIDS, he has dealt with and taken responsibility for his feelings and made
appropriate choices for action on such feelings. He has not given in to
his anger.
Joe Moore
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cs.utexas.edu!uunet!olivea!sgigate!sgiblab!adagio.panasonic.com!nntp-server.caltech.edu!keith
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
<930401.112329.0u1.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> <11710@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) writes:
> And in the US, even that argument doesn't stand. It costs far
> more to execute a criminal in this country than it does to feed,
> clothe, and shelter them for the remainder of their natural life.
> Some people believe this is a fault of our judicial system. I
> find it to be one of it's greatest virtues.
I assume that you are talking about the appeals processes, etc.?
Well, it should be noted that people who are imprisoned for life
will also tend to appeal (though not quite as much in the "final
hours."
Anyway, economics is not a very good reason to either favor or oppose
the punishment.
keith
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From: rj3s@Virginia.EDU ("Get thee to a nunnery.....")
Subject: Re: Israeli Terrorism
Organization: University of Virginia
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eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
>
> >I think the Israeli press might be a tad bit biased in
> >reporting the events. I doubt the Propaganda machine of Goering
> >reported accurately on what was happening in Germany. It is
> >interesting that you are basing the truth on Israeli propaganda.
>
> If you consider Israeli reporting of events in Israel to be propoganda, then
> consider the Washington Post's handling of American events to be propoganda
> too. What makes the Israeli press inherently biased in your opinion? I
> wouldn't compare it to Nazi propoganda either. Unless you want to provide
> some evidence of Israeli inaccuracies or parallels to Nazism, I suggest you
> keep your mouth shut. I'm sick and tired of all you anti-semites comparing
> Israel to the Nazis (and yes, in my opinion, if you compare Israel to the Nazis
> you are an anti-semite because you know damn well it isn't true and you are
> just trying to discredit Israel).
>
> Ed.
>
You know ed,... You're right! Andi shouldn't be comparing
Israel to the Nazis. The Israelis are much worse than the
Nazis ever were anyway. The Nazis did a lot of good for
Germany, and they would have succeeded if it weren't for the
damn Jews. The Holocaust never happened anyway. Ample
evidence given by George Schafer at Harvard, Dept. of History,
and even by Randolph Higgins at NYU, have shown that the
Holocaust was just a semitic conspiracy created to obtain
sympathy to piush for the creation of Israel.
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Subject: CHRISTIAN DEVIL REVEALED!
From: pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey)
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
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>For a while I was puzzled by the the concept of Adam and Eve coming to
>know good and evil. This is how I resolved it. Within God's universe
>each action evokes an equal and opposite reaction. There can be no good
>without evil as an opposite. So the issue is not what you do but to whom
>you give your allegiance. That is why, even in this sinful state, when we
>perform an evil act while we are submitted to God He does not place that
>sinful act to our account (Rom 4:8) In the same vein you can perform all
>the good deeds in the book, if your life is not under God's control you are
>still sinning (see Rom 14:23).
Now, take a good look at at, an tell me man, there is no Christian
Devil? There is, is real, is a virus, a meme, infecting and possessing
the good people and keep 'em from becoming human beings with emphasis on
the being! Is not a matter of good people an evil people, is all good
people see, but some good people vexed of the Christian Devil. An it
can't be burn out or lynch out or rape out. Only wise up let I rise up.
Christian Devil is real man, how else can you explain five hundred years
of history, even more? Can only be explained by Christians invoke
Christian Devil.
you keep on knocking but you can't come in, i got to understand you've
been living in sin, but walk right in and sit right down, i'll keep
on loving you, i'll play the clown, but bend down low, let i tell you
what i know yah
i've been 'buked brothers and i've been stoned, woe, woe, woe, now i'm
hung by a tree in the the ganging on a few, woe, woe, woe, it doesn't
matter who the man is who lives the life he loves, it doesn't matter
what the man does or the honest life he loves, i want somewhere, i want
somewhere, hallelujah, hallelujah, somewhere to lay my head, woe is me
only ska beat in 'eaven man
stiff necked fools, you think you're cool, to deny me for simplicity, yes
you have gone, for so long with your love for vanity now, yes you have
got the wrong interpretation mixed up with vain imagination, so take jah
sun and jah moon and jah rain and jah stars, and forever yes erase your
fantasy, yeah, the lips of the righteous teach many, but fools die for
want of wisdom, the rich man's wealth is in his city, the righteous
wealth is in his holy place, so take jah sun and jah moon and jah rain
and jah stars, and forever yes erase your fantasy, destruction of the
poor is in their poverty, destruction of the soul is vanity, yeah, but i
don't want to rule ya, i don't want to fool ya, i don't want to school
ya, things you, you might never know about, yes you have got the wrong
interpretation mixed up with vain, vain imagination, stiff necked fools,
you think you're cool, to deny me for, oh simplicity
love to see, when yah move in the rhythm, love to see when you're
dancing from within, it gives great joy to feel such sweet togetherness,
everyone's doing and they're doing their best, it remind i of the days
in jericho, when we trodden down jericho wall, these are the days when
we'll trod true babylon, gonna trod until babylon fall
then I saw the angel with the seven seals saying, babylon throne going down
we weeping and we wailing tonight
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From: chen@protostar.harvard.edu
Subject: re: BBBBIG problem with W4W print file. Help!!!!
Organization: Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Distribution: world
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In article <1993Mar31.014237.28478@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> dwoo@unb.ca writes:
>To all the W4W experts:
>
>I have a file that is three pages long with 10 to 12 1-line equations
>plus a 5"by 2" diagram. The size of this file is about 81KB before
>unlinking all the embedded objects and 30KB after unlinking all the
>embedded objects. Well, when I print it (since I don't have a laser
>printer, I have to send it to a print file), W4W gives me back a
>BBBBBBIG file that is well over 6MB long. I just fail to see how a 81K
>file can be boosted to a 6MB file. Obviously, I will not able to carry
>this 6MB+ file to the public printer unless I find myself a network
>card, a cable etc.
>
>Could anyone please enlighten me with a solution? (I already try to
>print a page at a time, it still won't fit into a HD floppy)
>
>Thanx a mil.
>
>
>
>*****************************************************************
>* Dennis Woo Department of Mechanical Engineering *
>* E-mail: dwoo@unb.ca University of New Brunswick *
>* Tel: (506) 453-4513 *
>*****************************************************************
>
>
I once had this problem. All I did was to copy the whole doc to a new file. The problem
was gone. Hope this helps.
Hua
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From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Subject: "Clipper" an Infringement on Intergraph's Name?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
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Besides being an infringement on our civil liberties (not the subject
in this post), the name "Clipper Chip" seems very confusable with the
"Clipper" chip of Intergraph.
Originally designed by a team at Fairchild Semiconductor, Clipper was
a 32-bit RISC microprocessor. It is still used in some workstations,
notably those from Intergraph, the supplier of CAD tools. Intergraph
acquired the Clipper product line when Fairchild was sold to National
Semiconductor several years back.
When I first saw "Clipper Chip" in the announcement, I immediately
thought the article was referring to the Clipper chip I know.
This seems to be grounds for Intergraph to sue, but then I'm not a
lawyer. I'd say I'm a cryptologist, but I don't want to incriminate
myself under the laws of the new regime.
-Tim May
--
..........................................................................
Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments.
Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.
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From: et@teal.csn.org (Eric H. Taylor)
Subject: Re: HELP_WITH_TRACKING_DEVICE
Summary: underground and underwater wireless methods
Keywords: Rogers, Tesla, Hertz, underground, underwater, wireless, radio
Nntp-Posting-Host: teal.csn.org
Organization: 4-L Laboratories
Expires: Fri, 30 Apr 1993 06:00:00 GMT
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In article <00969FBA.E640FF10@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU> mcdonald@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU writes:
>[...]
>There are a variety of water-proof housings I could use but the real meat
>of the problem is the electronics...hence this posting. What kind of
>transmission would be reliable underwater, in murky or even night-time
>conditions? I'm not sure if sound is feasible given the distortion under-
>water...obviously direction would have to be accurate but range could be
>relatively short (I imagine 2 or 3 hundred yards would be more than enough)
>
>Jim McDonald
Refer to patents by JAMES HARRIS ROGERS:
958,829; 1,220,005; 1,322,622; 1,349,103; 1,315,862; 1,349,104;
1,303,729; 1,303,730; 1,316,188
He details methods of underground and underwater wireless communications.
For a review, refer to _Electrical_Experimenter_, March 1919 and June 1919.
Rogers' methods were used extensively during the World War, and was
unclassified after the war. Supposedly, the government rethought this
soon after, and Rogers was convieniently forgotten.
The bottom line is that all antennas that are grounded send HALF of
their signal THRU the ground. The half that travels thru space is
quickly dissapated (by the square of the distance), but that which
travels thru the ground does not disapate at all. Furthermore,
the published data showed that when noise drowned out regular
reception, the underground antennas would recieve virtually noise-free.
IF you find this hard to believe, then refer to the work of the
man who INVENTED wireless: Tesla. Tesla confirmed that Rogers' methods
were correct, while Hertzian wave theory was completely "abberant".
----
ET "Tesla was 100 years ahead of his time. Perhaps now his time comes."
----
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From: ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser)
Subject: Re: Supply Side Economic Policy (was Re: David Stockman )
Nntp-Posting-Host: solomon.technet.sg
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
Distribution: na
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In article <Ufk_Gqu00WBKE7cX5V@andrew.cmu.edu> Ashish Arora <ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.sci.econ: 5-Apr-93 Re: Supply Side Economic Po..
>by Not a Boomer@desire.wrig
>[...]
>
>> The deficits declined from 84-9, reaching a low of 2.9% of GNP before
>> the tax and spending hike of 1990 reversed the trend.
>>
>> Brett
>Is this true ? Some more details would be appreciated.
Yes, sadly, this is true. The primary reason, and the essence of the
details that you are seeking, is that the Grahm-Rudman budget controls
were working. In fact, they were working so well that unless the feds
did something, they were going to have to start cutting pork. So Bush
and the Democrats got together in a Budget Summit and replaced
Grahm-Rudman with the now historic Grand Compromise in which Bush
"consented" to raise taxes in exchange for certain caps on spending
increases.
As it turned out, the taxes killed the Reagan expansion and the caps
on spending increases were dispelled by Clinton in his first act as
President (so that he could create his own new plan with more tax
increases).
The result is that Clinton now HOPES to reduce the deficit to a level
ABOVE where it was when Reagan left office.
Chew on that awhile.
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From: sschaff@roc.slac.stanford.edu (Stephen F. Schaffner)
Subject: Re: Ancient Books
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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In article <Apr.10.05.32.47.1993.14396@athos.rutgers.edu>,
whheydt@pbhya.pacbell.com (Wilson Heydt) writes:
|> As for the dating of the oldest extant texts of the NT.... How would
|> you feel about the US Civil War in a couple of thousand years if the
|> only extant text was written about *now*? Now adjust for a largely
|> illiterate population, and one in which every copy of a manuscript is
|> done by hand....
Considerably better than I feel about, say, the Punic Wars, or the
Peloponnesian War (spelling optional), or almost any other event in
classical history. How close to the events do you think the oldest
extent manuscripts are in those cases?
--
Steve Schaffner sschaff@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu
The opinions expressed may be mine, and may not be those of SLAC,
Stanford University, or the DOE.
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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: TIFF -> Anything?!
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
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There is a program called Graphic Workshop you can FTP from
wuarchive. The file is in the msdos/graphics directory and
is called "grfwk61t.zip." This program should od everthing
you need.
--
TMC
(tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.ca)
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From: dunnjj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (DUNN JONATHAN JAMES)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>Cup holders (driving is an importantant enough undertaking)
This is a good idea - so you can carry your (non-alcoholic) drinks without
spilling or having someone hold on to them.
>Cellular phones and mobile fax machines (see above)
Fax machines, yes. Cellular phones: Why not get a hands-free model?
>Fake convertible roofs and vinyl roofs.
Seemingly unique to American luxury cars. The Big Three haven't yet realized
that the 1970s are over.
>Any gold trim.
I agree. Just another display of Yuppie excess.
>Jon Dunn<
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