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6300 | From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: White Toyota Camry LE 1988 MUST SELL
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - New Jersey Div.
Lines: 10
MUST SELL:
1988 Toyota Camry LE -- Car has AC, PS, PB, Sunroof, AM/FM
Cassette radio, Cruise control, etc. 61000 miles.
White with red interior.
Car is in excellent condition. It is located in the Paramus, NJ area.
$7900 or best offer.
If interested please call 201-666-9207
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6301 | From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA
Lines: 35
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.intercon.com
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1
uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes:
> I wish I could agree with you. Ask yourself this. Why would any
> private sector entity wish to buy a crypto system that was KNOWN to be
> at least partially compromised?
(a) To use for sensitive but not strategically important traffic,
(b) if the system was cheap.
For example, I don't own a cordless phone. With Clipper, I would. If the
local men in blue really want to listen to me talk to my friends or order
pizza, I'm no worse off than I am now, and I don't have to worry about
local kids or nosy neighbors.
That is to say, Clipper "raises the bar" on insecure channels. It doesn't
make them secure, by any means, but a wall, even if the FBI can get a master
key by court order, is still better than a "keep off the grass" sign.
> The answer seems obvious to me, they wouldn't. There is other hardware
> out there not compromised. DES as an example (triple DES as a better
> one.)
So, where can I buy a DES-encrypted cellular phone? How much does it cost?
Personally, Cylink stuff is out of my budget for personal use :)...
> How can you reconcile the administrations self proclaimed purpose of
> providing law enforcement with access to encrypted data without making
> the clipper system the only crypto available in the U.S... ?
The Second and Fourth Amendments do come to mind.
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
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6302 | From: mbuntan@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Where can I get the cheapest price?
Nntp-Posting-Host: staff.tc.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Lines: 9
Hi all:
Does anyone know where I can get the cheapest price for
the Teleport Gold fax modem by Global Village?
Any answer will be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Thian.
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6303 | From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward)
Subject: Re: pink tools [was: Re: What is it with girlfriends and motorcycles?]
Organization: University College of Wales, Aberystwyth
Lines: 1
Nntp-Posting-Host: 144.124.112.30
I ONLY Just prevented myself from diving in on this one.....
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6304 | From: dalibor@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Stefan Dalibor)
Subject: Re: Too fast
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Reply-To: dalibor@immd3.uni-erlangen.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00g.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Lines: 85
jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>There are a few things to keep in mind about Europe, since you brought
>it up. My Autobahn knowledge is admittedly second-hand, but I believe
>the following to be true:
My knowledge about driving in the U.S. is also second-hand, but I think I can
correct your statements about our Autobahn:
>1. Drivers are much better disciplined in Europe than they are here.
Oh yeah, that would be paradise... in fact, you can forget it. From all I've
heard from my U.S. relatives, drivers esp. here in Germany are much more agg-
ressive, but not disciplined. One of my relatives, a L.A. resident, hired a car
at the Nuernberg airport and went about 18 miles to our home. He said then that
he grew about 1 year older during this ride and swore he'd never drive a car in
Germany again (this was in 1982 and he kept his promise - the situation now is
even worse as effect of the increased volume of traffic).
What you mean by `better disciplined' should perhaps be considered `cautious due
to fear':
When driving around here, you always *have* to take into consideration that the
majority of the other drivers absolutely relies on you: They expect that nobody
fails or sleeps; many of them exploit this by driving as fast as their car can
go (of course only where that is allowed, you might think - dream on :).
So any mistake you make is a very high risk to your health - and if you're ex-
posed to such a situation from your very first day as a driver, you learn to
handle it - or you lose...
That's the way I and most people I know experience our traffic situation -
whether you think this is pleasant or efficient is up to you; I think we handle
a very high volume of traffic and that at high speeds with modest (compared to
the volume) and decreasing rates of lethal accidents - OTOH, more and more
people (esp. women) dislike driving (because they feel overtaxed and threatened)
and each accident is one accident too much.
>2. The roads comprising the Autobahn are much better designed than
> they are here, and usually include animal fences. This makes them
> far more predictable than most US highways.
Better designed and maintained, may be - but animal fences are very rare. Auto-
bahnen and many other streets have guard-rails (I hope that's the right word -
a plank made from thick steel sheet fixed on uprights; it's about 2 feet high);
those guard-rails are designed for keeping vehicles on the road. Smaller animals
can crawl under the plank, bigger ones can easily jump over it. The point is
that esp. larger animals are very rare in Germany; they tend also to be very
timid. Accidents caused by animals are a neglegible danger.
>3. Not all of Europe is the Autobahn. Most places in Europe have
> speed limits that aren't out-of-line with what we used to have in
> the US -- if my friends weren't lying to me they're typically not
> much higher than 120km/h.
You're right (there are speed linits even on the major part of the Autobahn) -
but the attitude towards driving (see above) seems to be very similar to that
in Germany (I've been in France, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Spain, Belgium,
the Netherlands) - besides that, you really can't rely on the residents abiding
the local speed limits. I've got quite a lot of practise (~120k miles) and I'm
used to travel at 130 mph (FYI, with a car even smaller than a rabbit), but I
consider driving on the highways round Paris or Milano really a thrill...
>I strongly suspect you won't find a lot of Rabbit owners doing 120mph
>(nearly 200km/h) on the Autobahn, but I could be wrong. ...
Sorry, but you'll find quite a lot rabbit-class-car (or even smaller, mine is a
Peugeot 205) owners going that fast; small cars with much HP are very `hip' over
here - and most people buying such cars aren't afraid to let them run.
> ... Some people
>have no respect for their own lives.
I disagree; the size or weight of a car is rather irrelevant. Formula-1 cars
weigh less than 700 kg and the drivers have a chance to survive accidents at
130 mph or higher - OTOH when crashing against a solid object at 130 mph,
it makes no difference whether you sit in a Porsche, a Mercedes, a tank or on
a bicycle: Your're dead.
Bye,
Stefan
---
Stefan Dalibor (dalibor@immd3.uni-erlangen.de)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
"...And now for the next case in Kangaroo Court, I accuse you of being the
reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. I don't think that mere denials will be
sufficient -- you will have to submit to examinations by a parapsychologist
that I personally select..."
Perry Metzger (pmetzger@shearson.com) in Article 2074 in news.admin.policy
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6305 | From: dgf1@ellis.uchicago.edu (David Farley)
Subject: Re: Photoshop for Windows
Reply-To: dgf1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 37
In article <1r85m2$k66@agate.berkeley.edu> aron@tikal.ced.berkeley.edu (Aron Bonar) writes:
>In article <1993Apr22.011720.28958@midway.uchicago.edu>, dgf1@quads.uchicago.edu (David Farley) writes:
>|> In article <C5uHIM.JFq@rot.qc.ca> beaver@rot.qc.ca (Andre Boivert) writes:
>|> >
>|> >
>|> >I am looking for comments from people who have used/heard about PhotoShop
>|> >for Windows. Is it good? How does it compare to the Mac version? Is there
>|> >a lot of bugs (I heard the Windows version needs "fine-tuning)?
>|> >
>|> >Any comments would be greatly appreciated..
>|> >
>|> >Thank you.
>|> >
>|> >Andre Boisvert
>|> >beaver@rot.qc.ca
>|> >
>|> An review of both the Mac and Windows versions in either PC Week or Info
>|> World this week, said that the Windows version was considerably slower
>|> than the Mac. A more useful comparison would have been between PhotoStyler
>|> and PhotoShop for Windows. David
>|>
>
>I don't know about that...I've used Photoshop 2.5 on both a 486dx-50 and a Quadra
>950...I'd say they are roughly equal. If anything the 486 was faster.
>
>Both systems were running in 24 bit color and had the same amount of RAM (16 megs)
>I also believe the quadra had one of those photoshop accelerators.
I went back and looked at the review again. They claim there were
significant differences in manipulating a 27 meg test file, but with
smaller files, the two platforms were the about the same. David
--
David Farley The University of Chicago Library
312 702-3426 1100 East 57th Street, JRL-210
dgf1@midway.uchicago.edu Chicago, Illinois 60637
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6306 | From: qman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Charlie Kuehmann)
Subject: LCIII to VGA Monitor Adapters
Article-I.D.: ironman.qman-060493132722
Organization: Northwestern University
Lines: 17
Nntp-Posting-Host: ironman.ms.nwu.edu
I'm having a real tough time finding out the proper adapters to use a VGA
monitor (an IBM 8513 sold w/ many PS/2's to be exact) on the Mac LC III.
All of the vendors I have called say that the internal video will not work
on a true VGA monitor but will work on a IBM Compatible multisync like the
sony's or the NEC monitors. I thought the VGA capability of LCIII was very
attractive because it allowed you to use inexpensive VGA monitors. Am I
confused or are these vendors just not up to speed? Has anyone used an
LCIII with a non multisync VGA monitor and if so where did you get your
adapter (please be specific w/ vendor and cat #)? I would prefer to get a
apple monitor for these LCIII's (it's unseemly to see the finder inside an
IBM bezel) but the more money we save on monitors the more LCIII's we can
afford and the more PS/2's we can get rid of!
Charles Kuehmann
Northwestern University
Steel Research Group
qman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
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6307 | From: sdixon@andy.bgsu.edu (Sherlette Dixon)
Subject: Re: My original post (Was Jesus Black?)
Organization: Bowling Green State University Student
Lines: 11
My, my, my. I knew that I would receive a response to my post, but not
THIS extensive. Thank you to all who responded; it at least showed that
people were willing to think about it, even though the general response was
a return to the same old "Why should it matter?" question. To those of you
who were a part of this response, I suggest that you read the articles
covering this same question in soc.culture.african.american, for you are in
DIRE need of some cultural enlightenment.
Hasta luego
Sherlette
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6308 | From: 55526@brahms.udel.edu (Oliver P Weatherbee)
Subject: New Windows drivers for Cirrus GD5426 graphic cards!
Article-I.D.: news.C5x27u.D4F
Organization: University of Delaware
Lines: 42
Nntp-Posting-Host: brahms.udel.edu
I have uploaded the most recent Windows drivers for the Cirrus GD5426
chip based display cards to the uploads directory at ftp.cica.indiana.edu
(file is 5426dr13.zip). They're very recent, I downloaded them from the
Cirrus BBS (570-226-2365) last night. If you are unable to get them there,
email me and maybe I can upload them to some other sites as well.
I have a local bus based card (VL24 Bitblaster from Micron) but I think
the drivers work with ISA cards (or at least includes drivers for them).
I found the new drivers to be a significant improvement over the 1.2 version,
improving my graphic winmarks (v3.11) by about 2 million (7.77 to 9.88)
although this could be the result of intentional benchmark cheating on
Cirrus's part but I don't think so.
From Steve Gibson's (columnist for Info World) graphic card comparisons
(also found at the cica ftp site under the name winadv.zip) I extracted the
following for the sake of comparison:
Wintach
Winbn3.11 Word Sprsht Cad Paint Overall
Steve's system:
486/33 VLB:
ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 9.33 10.34 20.78 8.28 14.90 13.58
my system -
486sx/33 VLB:
VL24 Bitblaster 9.88 8.65 11.71 18.84 15.40 13.65
Its no Viper, but I think its a hell of a deal at about a third of the cost of
the ATI card and when compared to the other cards included in Gibson's review.
Micron system owner's, I would be interested to hear your opinions on the
DTC 2270VL local bus disk controller. My system came with a Maxtor 7120
drive (120 MB) and at first was only giving me disk winmarks of about 16 Kb/s,
I am now at 22 Kb/s. Is this about as good as it gets? I can't get a Norton's
sysinfo disk reading because the contoller intercepts the calls, at
least that was what the program said.
Oliver Weatherbee
oliver@earthview
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6309 | Organization: Penn State University
From: <LRR105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Dents on car.
Lines: 5
All you have to do is turn it in to the police like you would an accident,
get a report and send it in to your insurance company and they will contact
the other guys insurance company and they will have to pay just as they
would in an accident they caused. Thus no need to go to court. A friend of
mine did this and he got the money so it does work.
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6310 | From: m23364@mwunix.mitre.org (James Meritt)
Subject: Re: Kind, loving, merciful and forgiving GOD!
Nntp-Posting-Host: mwunix.mitre.org
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Lines: 41
In article <8968@blue.cis.pitt.edu> joslin@pogo.isp.pitt.edu (David Joslin) writes:
}m23364@mwunix.mitre.org (James Meritt) writes:
}>joslin@pogo.isp.pitt.edu (David Joslin) writes:
}>}m23364@mwunix.mitre.org (James Meritt) writes:
}>}>}(a) out of context;
}>}>Must have missed when you said this about these other "promises of god" that we keep
}>}>getting subjected to. Could you please explain why I am wrong and they are OK?
}>}>Or an acknowledgement of public hypocrisy. Both or neither.
}>}
}>}So, according to you, Jim, the only way to criticize one person for
}>}taking a quote out of context, without being a hypocrite, is to post a
}>}response to *every* person on t.r.m who takes a quote out of context?
}>
}>Did I either ask or assert that? Or is this your misaimed telepathy at work again?
}
}(1) Stephen said you took a quote out of context
}(2) You noted that Stephen had not replied to some other t.r.m article
} (call it A) that took a quote out of context
}(3) But the lack of evidence for X does not constitute evidence for the
} lack of X (a common creationist error)
}(4) So the fact that Stephen did not reply to A does not justify the
} conclusion that Stephen condoned taking quotes out of context in A
Excellent. Now under what conditions could such a conclusion be made, other
than a direct assertion by his part. For instance, am I to assume that
you have no position on eating shit merely because you have not said
your position, or might a conclusion be made by observing that you do not.
}(7) I assumed you were being logical, and that the sentence that begins
} "Could you please explain ..." was not a nonsequitur, but was intended
} to follow from the sentence that preceded it.
}Is that better Jim? It's called an argument. If you disagree with it,
}explain why the argument is not sound. (I admit that my assumption in (7)
}may have been a bit hasty.) If you agree with it, just say "yup."
Have you, by chance, ever even heard of inductive logic? You are not
demonstrating any familiarly with it (i.e. you are being insufficiently
logical).
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6311 | From: rob@rjck.UUCP (Robert J.C. Kyanko)
Subject: Re: VGA 640x400 graphics mode
Distribution: world
Organization: Neptune Software Inc
Lines: 26
dutc0006@student.tc.umn.edu writes in article <C5G7qB.BMp@news2.cis.umn.edu>:
> >
> >Some VESA bios's support this mode (0x100). And *any* VGA should be able to
> >support this (640x480 by 256 colors) since it only requires 256,000 bytes.
> >My 8514/a VESA TSR supports this; it's the only VESA mode by card can support
> >due to 8514/a restrictions. (A WD/Paradise)
> >
> >--
> >I am not responsible for anything I do or say -- I'm just an opinion.
> > Robert J.C. Kyanko (rob@rjck.UUCP)
>
> Ahh no. Possibly you punched in the wrong numbers on your
> calculator. 256 color modes take a byte per pixel so 640 time 480 is
> 307,200 which is 300k to be exact. 640x400x256 only takes 250k but I
> don't think it is a BIOS mode. I wouldn't bet that all VGA cards can do
> that either. If a VGA card has 512k I bet it can do both 640x400 and
> 640x480. That by definition is SVGA, though not very high SVGA.
>
Yes, I did punch in the wrong numbers (working too many late nites). I
intended on stating 640x400 is 256,000 bytes. It's not in the bios, just my
VESA TSR.
--
I am not responsible for anything I do or say -- I'm just an opinion.
Robert J.C. Kyanko (rob@rjck.UUCP)
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6312 | From: jitloke@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Jit-Loke Lim)
Subject: Re: BRAINDEAD Drivers Who Don't Look Ahead--
Keywords: bad drivers
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR.
Lines: 33
>In article <1993Apr14.140642.19875@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> hhm@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (herschel.h.mayo) writes:
>anybody is going anywhere. So, I block the would-be passers. Not only for my own
>good , but theirs as well even though they are often too stupid to realize it.
Ah, we are looking for good people just like you. We are a very concerned
group of citizens who are absolutely disgusted at the way that the majority
of drivers simply disobey traffic rules like going above the speed limit,
passing on our right, and riding our tails, while all the while we respectfully
abide by the rules of this great country and maintain the mandated speed
limits with our calibrated, certified cruise controls, while keeping the
respectful 1.5 car length distance/10 mph speed. How many times have you been
ticked off by some moron who jumps ahead in the (5.5 * 1.5)8.25 car lengths
that you have left between you and the vehicle ahead of you while driving
55 mph? Finally you have an option. We are a totally member supported group
that perform functions for our own good, for the good of this great country but MOST of all for those unfortunate ones that are too stupid to realize it,
bless their souls. For a paltry $10, you can join Citizens for Rationally
Advanced Piloting(C.R.A.P), a non-profit, members only, society. But, but,but,
there is a slight hitch, the initiation rite. To be a full fledged member of
this exclusive club, you must proof that you are able to be in the fast lane of
the busiest interstate in your area, keep the correct 1.5 car lenth/10 mph speedand I know this can be difficult with those morons around, NOT let anybody pass
you, not in the next lane, not in the slow lane, not in the breakdown lane,
not NOWHERE. For a complete list of acceptable interstates and times, send $5.
And by the way, over 90% of our members are highly regarded attorneys in the
auto field and they are completely, absolutely positively in the business ONLY
to serve your best interests. As a testament to their virtues, they will give
members 90% off the initial consultation fee. Feel free to drop me a line at
your earliest convenience and remember, only SPEED kills!
Jit
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6313 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: It was an 'encore' performance staged by the Armenians during WWI.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 47
In 1941, while the Jews were being assembled for their doom in the Nazi
concentration camps, the Nazi Armenians in Germany formed the first
Armenian battalion to fight alongside the Nazis. In 1943, this battalion
had grown into eight battalions of 20,000-strong under the command of Dro
(the butcher) who is the architect of the cold-blooded genocide of 2.5
million Turks and Kurds between 1914-1920. An Armenian National Council
was formed by the notorious Dashnak Party leaders in Berlin, which was
recognized by the Nazis. Encouraged by this, the Armenians summarily
formed a provisional government that endorsed and espoused fully the
principles of the Nazis and declared themselves as the members of the
Aryan super race and full participants to Hitler's policy of extermination
of the Jews.
This Armenian-Nazi conspiracy against the Jews during WWII was an "encore"
performance staged by the Armenians during WWI, when they back-stabbed and
exterminated 2.5 million Turks by colluding with the invading Russian army.
Source: "Adventures in the Near East, 1918-1922" by A. Rawlinson,
Jonathan Cape, 30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923)
(287 pages).
(Memoirs of a British officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5
million Muslim people)
p. 184 (second paragraph)
"I had received further very definite information of horrors that
had been committed by the Armenian soldiery in Kars Plain, and as
I had been able to judge of their want of discipline by their
treatment of my own detached parties, I had wired to Tiflis from
Zivin that 'in the interests of humanity the Armenians should not
be left in independent command of the Moslem population, as, their
troops being without discipline and not under effective control,
atrocities were constantly being committed, for which we should
with justice eventually be held to be morally responsible'."
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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6314 | From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: Anti-Zionism is Racism
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Lines: 14
B8HA000 <B8HA@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes:
>In Re:Syria's Expansion, the author writes that the UN thought
>Zionism was Racism and that they were wrong. They were correct
>the first time, Zionism is Racism and thankfully, the McGill Daily
>(the student newspaper at McGill) was proud enough to print an article
>saying so. If you want a copy, send me mail.
>Steve
Just felt it was important to add four letters that Steve left out of
his Subject: header.
--
Alan H. Stein astein@israel.nysernet.org
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6315 | From: paulson@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Sharon Paulson)
Subject: food-related seizures?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA, USA
Lines: 45
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
I am posting to this group in hopes of finding someone out there in
network newsland who has heard of something similar to what I am going
to describe here. I have a fourteen year old daugter who experienced
a seizure on November 3, 1992 at 6:45AM after eating Kellog's Frosted
Flakes. She is perfectly healthy, had never experienced anything like
this before, and there is no history of seizures in either side of the
family. All the tests (EEG, MRI, EKG) came out negative so the decision
was made to do nothing and just wait to see if it happened again.
Well, we were going along fine and the other morning, April 5, she had
a bowl of another Kellog's frosted kind of cereal, Fruit Loops (I am
embarrassed to admit that I even bought that junk but every once
in a while...) So I pour it in her bowl and think "Oh, oh, this is the
same kind of junk she was eating when she had that seizure." Ten
minutes later she had a full blown seizures. This was her first exposure
to a sugar coated cereal since the last seizure.
When I mentioned what she ate the first time as a possible reason for
the seizure the neurologist basically negated that as an idea. Now
after this second episode, so similar in nature to the first, even
he is scratching his head. Once again her EEG looks normal which I
understand can happen even when a person has a seizure.
Once again we are waiting. I have been thinking that it would be good
to get to as large a group as possible to see if anyone has any
experience with this kind of thing. I know that members of the medical
community are sometimes loathe to admit the importance that diet and
foods play in our general health and well-being. Anyway, as you can
guess, I am worried sick about this, and would appreciate any ideas
anyone out there has. Sorry to be so wordy but I wanted to really get
across what is going on here.
Thanks.
--
Sharon Paulson s.s.paulson@larc.nasa.gov
NASA Langley Research Center
Bldg. 1192D, Mailstop 156 Work: (804) 864-2241
Hampton, Virginia. 23681 Home: (804) 596-2362
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6316 | From: ajjb@adam4.bnsc.rl.ac.uk (Andrew Broderick)
Subject: DC-X & DC-Y
Organization: Rutherford Appleton Lab, UK
Lines: 15
Hi guys,
I've been hearing lots of talk on the net about DC-X and DC-Y,
but none of the many posts actually explain what they are !!! Sorry if
this is a FAQ, but would somebody please explain to me what they are.
Reply by Email please . . . thanks.
Andy
ajjb@adam4.bnsc.rl.ac.uk
--
-----------------------------------
Andy Jonathan J. Broderick, | "I have come that they might have |
Rutherford Lab., UK | life, and have it to the full" |
Mail : ajjb@adam2.bnsc.rl.ac.uk | - Jesus Christ |
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6317 | From: inu530n@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (I Rachmat)
Subject: Fractal compression
Summary: looking for good reference
Keywords: fractal
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Lines: 6
Hi... can anybody give me book or reference title to give me a start at
fractal image compression technique. Helps will be appreciated... thanx
inu530n@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
inu530n@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
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6318 | From: syshtg@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Tom Gillman)
Subject: Re: Please Refresh On Internet Access To CompuServe
Organization: Georgia State University
Lines: 22
cheong@solomon.technet.sg (SCSTECH admin) writes:
>Hi,
>sometime ago there are some discussions on gaining CompuServe access thru
>the Internet. But I seem to misplace those articles. Can someone please
>refresh me where (which site) I can telnet to to gain access.
>Hopefully I can download files as well.
This should be in the FAQ, it only get asked about twenty times a month
There is *NO*, that's right, *NO* telnet access to Compuserve, no ftp access,
no gopher access....no Internet services except e-mail.
You can telnet to hermes.merit.edu, but that routes you through Sprintnet,
which is horrendously expensive.
--
Tom Gillman, Systems Programmer | "AAAAAGGGGHHHH"
Wells Computer Center-Ga. State Univ. | -- Any "Classic" Star Trek Security
(404) 651-4503 syshtg@gsusgi2.gsu.edu | officer sometime during the show
GSU doesn't care what I say on the Internet, why should you?
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6319 | From: mbeale@groucho.mrc.uidaho.edu (Mark Beale)
Subject: Re: Quadra Acceleration
Article-I.D.: moscow.C5G4MM.6xI
Distribution: na
Organization: Microelectronics Research Center
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Nntp-Posting-Host: groucho.mrc.uidaho.edu
About this QUADRA 700, 800 clock acceleration: has anyone heard
of anything like it for the QUADRA 950?
Please reply e-mail, I don't get to the news very often. Thanks!!
Mark Beale
mbeale(at)wallaby.mrc.uidaho.edu
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6320 | From: aa711@Freenet.carleton.ca (Ken Darcovich)
Subject: west coast NHL playoff games
Reply-To: aa711@Freenet.carleton.ca (Ken Darcovich)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 28
Us easterners who have newspapers with editors
unsympathetic to playoff pools, often don't get
summaries from west coast games since they
finish too late at night for the morning edition.
I (and I'm sure others too) would greatly appreciate
it if scoring summaries of west coast playoff games
could be posted to this group right away.
basically, all we need are goal scorers and assists,
don't bother with times, penalties, shots etc...
this would make a lot of pool-obsessed people very
happy.
I guess with the Senators out golfing now, the
local papers have lost interest. ;-)
thanks.
kd.
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6321 | From: ayim@leibniz.uwaterloo.ca (Alfred Yim)
Subject: And... THEY'RE OFF!!!!!
Keywords: Leafs Chicago
Organization: University of Waterloo
Lines: 39
Well, I gotta tell ya,
last night's Leafs game vs the Devils was a nail-bitter LET ME TELL YOU!
It was a well played game by BOTH teams (I thought) but according to the
Don and Ron it was the an "off-night" for the Leafs and the Devils
were outplaying Toronto. Well, I BEG to differ....
IMHO, Clark deserved to be a first star as much as Gilmour did. His
fast breaks towards the net and the good opportunites that he
created reminded me of the Clark of old. (But not to take any of the
credit away from Gilmour).
I think the Leafs are playing GREAT hockey. WHY?
Well first look at their injury list which includes, Cullen, Ellet,
Zezel, Macoun. Of course my question is this....how will the Leafs
fare when they are once again "healthy" if they are playing this well
so far??
Second, just look at their standings, still second in defence,
moved from 11th overall to 6th over in the last month, haven't lost
at home in last 12 games, 8 game undefeated streak..etc.
(BTW, am I wrong or was this Potvin's first shut-out? I can't
remember him having any as of yet.)
Well, as of April 3 we see that the race for first in the Norris
has truly begun and it will be a VERY CLOSE race between Chicago and
Toronto. And the best game of the season will probably be their last
against each other. (is anyone lucky enough to have tickets to
see this one?)
Coming to the stretch and still a ROAR'IN!!!!!
Go LEAFS Go!!!!
--
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* Alfred (Yong-Jeh) Yim * Toronto wins the
* 4B Mathematics (Actuarial Science) * ( ? ) CUP.
* University of Waterloo, Canada. * i like "coca-cola" idea personally
* E-mail: ayim@descartes.waterloo.edu *
*****************************************************************************
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6322 | From: amehdi@src.honeywell.com (Hossien Amehdi)
Subject: Re: was: Go Hezbollah!!
Nntp-Posting-Host: tbilisi.src.honeywell.com
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Lines: 27
In article <BRADSKI.93Apr15210934@retina.bu.edu> bradski@retina.bu.edu (Gary Bradski) writes:
>>>>>> On 15 Apr 93 03:13:49 GMT, amehdi@src.honeywell.com (Hossien Amehdi) said:
>
>>> I was merley pointing out that the other side is also suffering.
>>> Like I said, I'm not an Arab but if I was, say a Lebanese, you bet
>>> I would defende my homeland against any invader by any means.
> ^^^
>The Syrians? Iranian agents? Or just Israeli invaders?
>--
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>
I did say *any* invader, didn't I? What do you want from me, perhaps a neural
net design with all countries involved in Lebanon as its nodes? :-) (You are
in Cognitive and Neural Systems)
If that's the case, I would put different weights for each country in my
net.
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6323 | From: nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (Nathaniel Mendell)
Subject: Re: OPINIONS WANTED -- HELP
Nntp-Posting-Host: amhux3.amherst.edu
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Lines: 9
What size dirtbikes did you ride? and for how long? You might be able to
slip into a 500cc bike. Like I keep telling people, though, buy an older,
cheaper bike and ride that for a while first...you might like a 500 Interceptor
as an example
Nathaniel
ZX-10
DoD 0812
AMA
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6324 | From: etape@cwis.unomaha.edu (Elizabeth Harris Tape)
Subject: Re: WINQVTNET with NDIS on Token Ring ?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Lines: 0
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6325 | From: eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com (Eric Vitiello)
Subject: .GIF to .BMP
Reply-To: eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com (Eric Vitiello)
Organization: Ky/In PC User's Group - Louisville, KY - 502-423-8654
Lines: 15
TO: saz@hook.corp.mot.com
SZ>Does anybody know of a program that converts .GIF files to .BMP files
SZ>and if so, where can I ftp it from? Any help would be greatly
SZ>appreciated.
Sure... A GREAT shareware program is Graphic Workshop (the newest
version is 6.1). Although I don't know where you can ftp it from. It
also converts to about 15 other formats, and does MANY other things.
....r.c V.t.ell. .r...
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. DeLuxe./386 1.25 #959sa . My Address: eric.vitiello@tfd.coplex.com
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6326 | From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc)
Subject: Re: DAVE KINGMAN FOR THE HALL OF FAME
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 59
(Steve Tomassi) writes:
> Hi, baseball fans! So what do you say? Don't you think he deserves it?
>I
>
>mean, heck, if Dave Winfield (ho-hum) is seriously being considered for it,
>as
>is Lee Smith (ha), then why don't we give Dave Kingman a chance? Or Darrell
>Evans! Yeah, yeah! After the Hall of Fame takes in them, it can take in
>Eddie
>Murray and Jeff Reardon.
> Well, in any case, I am sick and tired (mostly sick) of everybody
>giving
>Hall of Fame consideration to players that are by today's standards,
>marginal.
>Honestly, Ozzie Smith and Robin Yount don't belong there. They're both
>shortstops that just hung around for a long time. Big deal.
> Let's be a little more selective, huh? Stop handing out these honors
>so
>liberally. Save them for the guys who really deserve it. Face it, if
>something
>isn't done, there will be little prestige in the Hall of Fame anymore. When
>certain individuals believe that Steve Garvey or Jack Morris are potential
>candidates, the absurdity is apparent. Gee, can these guys even compare to
>the more likely future Hall of Famers like Kirby Puckett or Nolan Ryan?
>
>Q Steve
What's the difference between Nolan Ryan and Yount? Both have hung
around for years, and continue to post great stats. Why shouldn't Dave Kingman
get into the Hall? Or Murray, Evens, Reardon, and others? What the hell do
you have to do? Ask an opposing pitcher whether he thinks that Winfield should
be in the hall... God. Pretty soon you'll be saying that Cal Ripken doesn't
deserve to be in the Hall. Then, I'll flame you. :-)
--
Chintan Amin <The University of Illinois UrbanaChampaign> mail: llama@uiuc.edu
******************************Neil Peart, (c)1981*****************************
*"Quick to judge, Quick to Anger, Slow to understand, Ignorance and Prejudice*
*And********Fear********Walk********************Hand*********in*********Hand"*
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6327 | From: ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA (Ilyess Bdira)
Subject: Greek prime minister shows support for Serbian criminals
Keywords: international, non-usa government, government, fighting, civil rights, social issues
Article-I.D.: newsflas.C53562.JHH
Organization: ECE - Concordia University
Lines: 67
Nntp-Posting-Host: davinci.ece.concordia.ca
The above headline is much better than the original one.
read on..
In article <yugoslav-greeceU3A6430pe@clarinet.com> clarinews@clarinet.com (DEJAN ANASTASIJEVIC) writes:
> BELGRADE, Yugoslavia (UPI) -- Greek Prime Minister Constantine
>Mitsotakis visited the capital of the Serbia-Montenegro federation
>Tuesday in an apparent attempt to press Serbian leaders into accepting
>the international plan to end the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina.
So far so good...
> ``I came here as an old friend of this country...to help in solving
>the burning problem of Bosnia-Herzegovina,'' Mitsotakis told reporters
>after talking for two hours with President Slobodan Milosevic of Serbia.
Old friend, whatever....
> ``I did not come here to discuss any particular plan. I came to hear
>the Serbian point of view,'' he said, adding that Serbia is ``sincerely
>trying to bring peace to the region.''
That is a great attitude for someone who wants to pressure the Serbs to
accept a peace plan that gives them most of the territory they got by
force and terror.
> Milosevic said that Serbia and Greece had ``practically identical
>views'' on the Bosnian war, which started late in March 1992 when the
this is a good thing to hear. Anybody wondering why Serbia is not
really under any boycott? Anybody remembers the Gulf war? Did Saddam
kill 100,000 people and rape 50,000 women?
> In an effort to pressure Milosevic, who is considered to be the main
>patron of Serbian territorial conquest in Bosnia, the U.N. Security
>Council has threatened to impose new sanctions against Serbia and
>Montenegro and implement a no-fly zone over Bosnian skies.
Still in the threatening stage.. Maybe when there is no more Bosnians,
the UN will lift the arms Embargo on them! Military intervention? that
is reserved for Muslim countries.
NOW HEAR THIS:
> After meeting Milosevic, Mitsotakis had separate talks with Radovan
>Karadzic, the leader of Bosnian Serbs.
> ``I encouraged Mr. Karadzic to proceed with his efforts to achieve a
>just peace in the region,'' he said.
> ``We are ready to play a positive role in the Balkans,'' said
>Mitsotakis.
real positive I might add, in favor of his old freinds of course!
> Karadzic said that he was ``honored'' to meet the Greek premier.
> ``Greeks are not one sided, and they do not tend to condemn only one
You bet they are not!
>side in this war,'' said Karadzic.
> ``We will continue to negotiate on all levels,'' he said.
> Before meeting with Milosevic, Mitsotakis had talks with President
>Dobrica Cosic of the federal Yugoslav union of Serbia and Montenegro,
>and Patriarch Pavle, the head priest of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
Anybody is still convinced that this is not a religious war?
A psychopath like Karadzik is considered a peacelover.. Of course he
sent 100,000 muslims to permanent peace. With the blessings of Patriarch
Pavle.
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6328 | From: arc@cco.caltech.edu (Aaron Ray Clements)
Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 34
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu
HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>In <1r3efjINN3jj@gap.caltech.edu> arc@cco.caltech.edu writes:
>> Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>> >I also believe Texas has some of the most liberal 'gun-laws' in USA......
>>
>> In Texas, you cannot carry a handgun. Period. Either concealed or open.
> Currently, there is a bill before the Texas legislature that would make it
>legal for some ordinary folks to carry concealed weapons. I don't have the
>details, sorry.
>semper fi,
>Jammer Jim Miller
>Texas A&M University '89 and '91
>________________________________________________________________________________
> I don't speak for UH, which is too bad, because they could use the help.
>"Become one with the Student Billing System. *BE* the Student Billing System."
> "Power finds its way to those who take a stand. Stand up, Ordinary Man."
> ---Rik Emmet, Gil Moore, Mike Levine: Triumph
If I recall correctly, the bill would provide for concealed carry if
the person takes a 15-hr DPS safety course in firearms and pays a $150
fee for the license. The bill is apparently veto-proof in the House,
but LtGov Bullock has said it will never come to the floor of the
Senate and Dreamboat Annie has vowed to veto it if it comes to her
desk. *shrug*
aaron
arc@cco.caltech.edu
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6329 | From: kyee@bnlux1.bnl.gov (kenton yee)
Subject: proposed catcher re-sub rule
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Lines: 19
A lot of teams carry 3 catchers on their 25 man roster,
but the 3rd catcher is seldom ever used. He is only
insurance in case of extra innings or the 2nd catcher
is injured during a game. So to free up this roster
spot for an extra pinch hitter or reliever, why not
invoke a catcher re-substitution rule:
If the last roster catcher on a team is
injured during a game, the team is permitted
to substitute in his place for defensive purposes
a catcher who has previously been yanked from
the game.
Given this rule, a team wouldn't need 3 roster
catchers. The 3rd catcher could be playing
in AAA or be a non-roster bullpen catcher.
Ken
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6330 | From: cst@blueoak.berkeley.edu (Courtney Terry)
Subject: For Sale: 1969 karmann ghia
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 25
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: blueoak.berkeley.edu
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1969 karmann ghia
*******************************************************
This car is in excellent running condition:
*********
*49,000 mi on new engine
*new tires (Aug 92)
*new clutch (91)
*new carb (91)
*original radio (am/fm)
*upholstery in great shape
*burgundy exterior/ black interior
This car has been well-maintained with regular tune-ups.
Unfortunately, the car's previous owner had a minor
front-end collision. The right front nose is dented
and patched up with bondo. I have the hard-to-find part
needed to repair this damage. Besides that damage, the car
is in excellent condition. $1600/bo
Courtney email: cst@blueoak.berkeley.edu
phone (after 5 on weekdays): 510-704-9237
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6331 | From: darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice)
Subject: Re: Slavery (was Re: Why is sex only allowed in marriage:...)
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Lines: 208
In <1993Apr4.200253.21409@ennews.eas.asu.edu> guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim Guncer ) writes:
>You might not like what Bernard Lewis writes about, label him
>as a Zionist or such to discredit him etc.
You misrepresent me, Selim. The hard evidence for my statements about
his lack of objectivity are presented quite clearly in the book
"Orientalism" by Edward Said. Edward Said, by the way, is a Christian,
not a Muslim.
>I think he is
>pretty much objective in his treatment in "Race and Slavery in
>the Middle East", since he clearly distinguishes between
>slavery under Islam, and the practice of slavery in other countries,
>like the US prior to the civil war. He also does not conceal
>that there are verses in the Quran which promote the liberation
>of slaves. What he doesn't, and I don't think nobody can,
>deduce from these verses is that slavery will eventually be
>abolished in Islamic countries. Now you might, rather conveniently,
>blame the practice of slavery on Muslims, but the facts are out
>there. I also fail to see the relevance of the claim of Lewis being
>a "Zionist" to what I wrote.
Regarding Bernard Lewis:
Him being a Zionist gives him a political motive for his
giving misrepresentations and half-truths about Islam.
Read "Orientalism" by Edward Said -- see the evidence for yourself.
In fact, I may post some of it here (if it isn't too long).
>They were encyclopaedic information
>which anybody can access - that slavery was abolished at certain
>dates some 1200 years after Muhammed, that this was the cause
>of tensions in the Ottoman empire between the Arab slave traders
>and the government etc.. We also have in the ASU library volumes
>of British documents on slavery where reports and documents
>concerning slavery all around the world can be found, which I
>checked some of the incidents Lewis mentions. So I don't think
>ones political stance has anything to do with documentary evidence.
I haven't read Lewis's article, so I can't comment directly upon it, and
have only spoken about his writings _in general_ so far, that his
political motives make him a biased writer on Islam. His anti-Islamic
polemics, as I understand it, are often quite subtle and are often based
on telling half-truths.
Again, read "Orientalism" by Edward Said. I am _not_ asking you to take
what I say on trust, in fact I am urging you not to do so but to get
this book (it is a well-known book) and check the evidence out for
_yourself_.
>The issue I raised was that slaves WERE USED FOR SEXUAL PURPOSES,
>when it was claimed that Islam prohibits extra-marital sex.
>I wrote that the Prophet himself had concubines, I wrote an
>incident in which the prophet advised on someone who did not
>want his concubine to get pregnant etc., which is contrary
>to the notion that "sex is for procreation only". In other
>words, such claims are baseless in the Quran and the Hadith.
If slavery is _in reality_ (as opposed to in the practice of some
Muslims) opposed by Islam, then using slaves for sexual
purposes is necessarily opposed too.
>I seem to be unsuccesful in getting through to you. Islam is
>not "advocating" slavery. Slavery was an existing institution in the
>7th century. It advised on slaves being freed for good
>deeds etc., which is nothing new. Many cultures saw this as a
>good thing. What is the problem here? But I can argue rightfully
>that slaves were discouraged about thinking about their statuses
>politically - the Quran rewards the good slave, so obey your
>master and perhaps one day you'll be free. But, it is very
>understandable that I do not communicate with Muslims, since
>they assume the Quran is from a "God", and I think it is a rule-based
>system imposed on the society for preservation of the status quo.
>Slaves are a part of this system, the subordination of women
>so that their function in society boils down to child-making
>is a part of this system, etc.
I understand your point of view, Selim -- I think, rather, it is _us_
who are not getting through to _you_.
Some of the points you repeat above I have already answered before.
Regarding women, I have made posting after posting on this subject,
showing that Islam is not anti-woman, etc. However, have you been
completely ignoring my postings or just missing them? I just reposted a
very good one, under the title "Islam and Women", reposted from
soc.religion.islam. If this has already disappeared from your site,
then please email me telling me so and I will email you a copy of this
excellent article.
IMHO, your understanding of the issue of women in Islam is sadly deficient.
Regarding slaves, _my_ posting on slavery -- the second one I made,
which is a repost of an article I wrote early last year -- is based
completely on the Qur'an and contains numerous Qur'anic verses and
hadiths to support its point of view.
Our approaches are different -- you are arguing from a historical
standpoint and I am arguing directly from the teachings of the Qur'an
and hadiths. Now, just because people say they are Muslims and perform
a particular action, does that automatically mean that their action is
part of Islam, even if it is opposed by the Qur'an and Sunnah? No! Of
course not.
Let me give you a concrete example, which might help clarify this for
you. The Qur'an prohibits drinking. Now, if a person says "I am a
Muslim" and then proceeds to drink a bottle of beer, does this now mean
that Islam teaches that people should drink beer? Of course not, and
only an idiot would think so.
Do you see my point?
>It is very natural to think that
>the author/authors of the Quran had no idea that the socio-economic
>structure they were advocating would experience at least two paradigm
>shifts in 1400 years in the western cultures - first with the end of
>the feudal era and the rise of commerce, second with the industrial
>revolution. Well, rules have changed and the status quo has driven
>Muslim countries into misery trying to survive in a "heathen" world.
>Muslim countries have failed economically, they were unable to
>accumulate any wealth - directly due to the uncomprimising economic
>rules in the Quran. In fact, the rise of Islam can easily be modeled
>after the pyramid effect - you do not produce any wealth at home,
>but increase your wealth by conquering places.
You are judging Islam here on capitalist terms. Capitalism is an
ideology based largely on the assumption that people want to maximise
their wealth -- this assumption is in opposition to Islamic teachings.
To say Islam is bad because it is not capitalist is pretty unthinking --
Islam does not pretend to be capitalist and does not try to be
capitalist. (This does not mean that Islam does not support a
free-market -- for it does in general -- but there are other parts of
capitalism which are opposed to Islam as I understand it.)
>When this stopped,
>you (and I) were left bare in the open for emperialists to devour.
>No capital, no industry, very poor social services - the education
>level in Muslim countries are the lowest in the world, the health
>statistics are miserable etc..
One can postulate numerous reasons for this. Your theory is that it is
because Islam is not secularist and capitalist, etc. etc.
Selim, I will give you a clear historical example to show you the
fallacy of your views if you think (as you obviously do) that
Islam => lack of education and power.
For a large part of history, the Islamic world was very powerful. For a
significant section of history, the Islamic world was the foremost in
the sciences. So to say that Islam is, for example, anti-education is
completely absurd. You try to blame this situation on Islam -- history
shows that your conclusion is false and that, instead, there must be
other reasons for this situation.
>You blame Muslims for not following the Quran, but I blame Muslims
>for following the Quran.
Well, Selim, your viewpoint on women in Islam makes me question the extent
of your knowledge of Islam. I really think you are not
knowledgeable enough to be able to judge whether the Muslims are
following the Qur'an or not.
>Your idea is baseless from historical
>facts, it is a poor utopia,
The Islamic world was at the forefront of the world in science at one
stage -- yet somehow, in your theory, it is by "following the Qur'an"
that Muslims are backwards in education. Selim, it is _your_ thesis
that is anti-historical, for you conveniently overlook this historical
fact which contradicts your theory.
>while my ideas are derived from social
>and economic history.
You have certainly not shown this; you have merely stated it.
So far, it seems to me that your view on Islam being anti-education is
quite contrary to history. That you are so convinced of your views
makes me wonder just how objectively you are trying to look at all of
this.
>My solution to all Muslims is simple:
>CUT THE CRAP,
I think, Selim, you should consider taking your own advice.
>GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT
Here too.
>AND WORK HARD TO REVERSE
>THE EFFECTS OF 1300 YEARS OF IGNORANCE.
Selim, you have such conviction of your viewpoint, yet you demonstrate
ignorance, not only of Islam but also of Islamic history (particularly
with respect to Muslims being leaders of science till about 1400 or so I
think). Yet you say that your viewpoint is based on history!
Selim, if I remember right, you say in one of your earlier posts that
you are an apostate from Islam. I think you should slow down and start
thinking clearly about the issues, and start _reading_ some of our
postings about Islam rather than ignoring them as you so obviously
have.
Fred Rice
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
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6332 | From: farley@access.digex.com (Charles U. Farley)
Subject: Help with changing Startup logo
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA: 800-546-2010
Lines: 21
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Summary: Help with changing Startup logo
I know this is probably a FAQ, but...
I installed the s/w for my ATI graphics card, and it bashed my Windows
logo files. When I start Windows now, it has the 3.0 logo instead of
the 3.1 logo.
I thought the files that controlled this were
\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VGALOGO.RLE
\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VGALOGO.LGO
I restored these files, but it didn't change the logo. Anyone know what
the correct files are?
Thanks.
--
farley@access.digex.com <Charles U. Farley>
Average IQ of Calgary Board of Ed. Employee: 65
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6333 | Subject: Re: quick way to tell if your local beat writer is dumb.
From: rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis)
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Nntp-Posting-Host: flash.ece.uc.edu
Lines: 13
Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite writes:
>jayson stark (i trhink that's him) fits perfectly in this category.
>
>anyone who writes "dean palmer has 2 homers - at this pace, he'll
> have 324 home runs!" should be shot.
Bob, I think that Stark does this sort of thing as a joke, not as a
serious prediction. I don't really see why we should shoot him for
that. The guys who ought to be shot are the ones who keep claiming
how great the Royals' chances are in the AL West, since all evidence
indicates that they aren't joking and actually believe it.
Bob Davis rbd@thor.ece.uc.edu
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6334 | Subject: **** Tapes 4 Sale (most sale) ****
From: koutd@hirama.hiram.edu (DOUGLAS KOU)
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-Host: hirama.hiram.edu
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Tapes for sale, $3.00 each and the shipping is included.
Those tapes are 1 year old and are hardly used, so there should
not be any problem with it. I really want to sell them, so make
me a package offer if you wish to.
Eagles The Best of Eagles
Eagles Hotel California
Elton John Sleeping with the past
Gloria Estefan Into the Light
James Ingram The Power of Great Music
Kenny G. Duo Tones
Lethal Weapon 3 ( music from the motion picture )
Mariah Carey MTV Unplugged EP
Michael Bolton Time, Love and Tenderness
The Phantom of the Opera
Genesis We can't dance
Phil Collins ... But Seriously
Queen The Works
Queen Live Magic
Wilson Phillips
Send me your offer...
Please send your offer to koutd@hirama.hiram.edu
thanks you,
Douglas Kou
Hiram College
Hiram, Ohio
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6335 | From: kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller)
Subject: Re: Tie Breaker....(Isles and Devils)
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences
Lines: 35
Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.sas.upenn.edu
In article <lrw509f@rpi.edu> wangr@rpi.edu writes:
>
> Are people here stupid or what??? It is a tie breaker, of cause they
>have to have the same record. How can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as
>first in the list for tie breaker??? If it is a tie breaker, how can there be
>different record???? Man, I thought people in this net are good with hockey.
>I might not be great in Math, but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points
>with different record??? Man...retard!!!!!! Can't believe people actually put
>win as first in a tie breaker......
Golly, I love stupid people. :-)
Listen, Rex, this is hockey. The NHL, to be precise. And in the NHL,
there exist these things called "ties". A tie occurs when a game ends
with the score for each team equal. Each team gets one point for a tie.
There also exits these things called "wins". A win is when one team has a
higher score than the opponent. (Oh yeah, only two teams play each other
at a time, so I can say "the opponent".) A team gets two points for a
win. So, let's say that a team has a record of 38 wins, 36 losses, and 10
ties. Another team has a record of 40 wins, 38 losses and 6 ties. The
first team has (38*2)+10 = 86 points. The second team has (40*2)+6 = 86
points. WOW! They *both* have the same number of points, but the number
of wins is different! How did they do that??!?!?!?! That's amazing. So,
Rex, when people talk about wins being the first tiebreaker, well, then
that's what it means. In our example, the second team would win the
tiebreaker and therefore have the "better" record, even though both teams
had the same number of points. If you didn't understand this post, Rex,
maybe you should go back and read it again, very slowly.
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
--
Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!!
kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
"When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."
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6336 | From: wpwood@darkwing.austin.ibm.com
Subject: GCC and Building the HP Widget Set on Linux
Reply-To: wpwood@austin.ibm.com (Bill Woodward)
Organization: The Institute of Knowledge on Jinx
Lines: 30
I am currently attempting to get a copy of the HP Widget set compiled
under Linux (SLS Release with kernel 99.6) and am running into some
problems. Actually, it seems that this is more of a GCC question,
because I got it to compile without trouble using cc on an RS/6000.
Basically, there are a number of functions with prototypes
set up in, let's say, CompositeP.h, for instance, the composite
widget's insert_child procedure is set up with the type :
typedef void (*XtWidgetProc) (Widget)
but in several places in the HP source code, they reference the
insert_child procedure and pass it multiple arguments instead of just
one, as the prototype suggests. For example:
(*superclass->composite_class.insert_child)(w, args, p_num_args)
Now, GCC chokes on this, giving an error message that too many arguments
are passed to the function. So, does anyone have any suggestions as to
how to turn off this checking in GCC, or how I can go about changing the
code to accomodate this call without changing /usr/include/X11/CompositeP.h,
or has anyone successfully built the HP widget set and have any suggestions.
Many thanks in advance for any help.
--
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Bill Woodward | wpwood@austin.ibm.com <-- Try this first
AIX Software Support | billw@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com
Graphics Group | 512-838-2834
I am the terror that flaps in the night.
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6337 | From: dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Bonilla
Nntp-Posting-Host: clove.journalism.indiana.edu
Reply-To: dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Lines: 11
Jiann-ming Su writes
> Bobby Bonilla supposedly use the word 'faggot' when he got mad at that author
> in the clubhouse. Should he be banned from baseball for a year like Schott?
It wouldn't bother me...
--
David J.(dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu)*****Blue Riddle Productions 1993
*-------------------------------It's on.--------------------------------*
***"THE RAP IS AN ART EP" is coming out on tape -- this time for real.***
*------------------------E-mail me for the 411.-------------------------*
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6338 | From: highlndr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (The Highlander)
Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 23
cptully@med.unc.edu (Christopher P. Tully,Pathology,62699) writes:
>Why so up tight? FOr that matter, TIFF6 is out now, so why not gripe
>about its problems? Also, if its so important to you, volunteer to
>help define or critique the spec.
HEAR HEAR!!!
>Finally, a little numerology: 42 is 24 backwards, and TIFF is a 24 bit
>image format...
REALLY? i thought that the reason it was 42 was that it is REALLY 24, but
written as 42 so that on Intel chips you could get the proper value :)
-pete
help stomp out the endian wars... break some eggs on their sides!
--
Peter Mueller (TheBishop) | When a person commits a violation and sins
highlndr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu | unintentionally in regard to any of the
pmueller@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu | Lord's holy things, he is to bring to the
| Lord as a penalty, a ram from the flock...
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6339 | From: sinn@carson.u.washington.edu (Philip Sinn)
Subject: Need Info of Maxtor 340SY SCSI jumper ID setting.
Summary: Jumper ID of Maxtor 340SY harddrive
Keywords: harddisk, Maxtor
Article-I.D.: shelley.1qusbtINNd9c
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Lines: 7
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
I got a harddisk shipped with an IDE specification but not the
SCSI spec. Would someone tell me how to set the jumper on
the harddrive? Thanks. Please email response.
Philip Sinn
sinn@carson.u.washington.edu
University of Washington
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6340 | From: shellgate!llo@uu4.psi.com (Larry L. Overacker)
Subject: Re: SSPX schism ?
Organization: Shell Oil
Lines: 99
In article <Apr.17.01.11.35.1993.2284@geneva.rutgers.edu> jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler) writes:
>
>[Descriptions of true and false obedience]
>
>Obedience is not solely a matter of compliance/refusal. The nature of
>the commands must also be taken into account; it is not enough to
>consider someone's compliance or refusal and then say whether they are
>"obedient" or "disobedient". You also have to take into consideration
>whether the commands are good or bad.
You ask where we are. I would echo that question. I'm not trying to be
contentious. But assuming that the Pope has universal jurisdiction
and authority, what authority do you rely upon for your decisions?
What prevents me from choosing ANY doctrine I like and saying that
Papal disagreement is an error that will be resolved in time?
This is especially true, since Councils of Bishops have basically
stood by the Pope.
It appears that much of what lies at the heart of this matter is
disagreements over what is tradition and Tradition, and also over
authority and discipline.
My question to the supporters of SSPX is this:
Is there ANY way that your positions with respect to church reforms
could change and be conformed to those of the Pope? (assuming that
the Pope's position does not change and that the leaders of SSPX
don't jointly make such choice.)
If not, this appears to be claiming infallible teaching authority.
If I adopt the view that "I'm NOT wrong, I CAN'T be wrong, and
there's NO WAY I'll change my mind, YOU must change yours", that
I've either left the Catholic Church or it has left me.
The Orthodox Church does not recognize papal authority/jurisdiction
viewing authority as present in each bishop, and in Ecumenical
Councils. We regard the subsequent development of the doctrines
regarding papal authority and jurisdiction to be a separation of
the Bishop of Rome from the Orthodox church. Without going into
the merits of the Great Schism, at least the Orthodox agree that
a split occurred, and don't paly what appear to be semantic games
like "He's the Pope, but we don't recognize that what he does
is effective...". Words aside, it appears to be a de facto split.
>So where are we? Are we in another Arian heresy, complete with weak
>Popes? Or are the SSPX priests modern Martin Luthers? Well, the only
>way to answer that is to examine who is saying what, and what the
>traditional teaching of the Church is.
We sould argue from now until the Second Coming about what the "real"
traditional teaching of the Church is. If this were a simple matter
East and West would not have been separated for over 900 years.
>Many Catholics will decide to side with the Pope. There is some
>soundness in this, because the Papacy is infallible, so eventually
>some Pope *will* straighten all this out.
I thought that the teaching magisterieum of the church did not allow
error in teachings regarding faith and morals even in the short term.`
I may be wrong here, I'm not Roman Catholic. :-)
What would be the effect of a Pope making an ex cathedra statement
regarding the SSPX situation? Would it be honored? If not, how
do you get around the formal doctrine of infallibility?
Again, I'm not trying to be contentions, I'm trying to understand.
Since I'm Orthodox, I've got no real vested interest in the outcome,
one way or the other.
>Schism is a superset of disobedience (refusal to obey a legitimate
>command). All schismatics are disobedient. But it's a superset, so
>it doesn't work the other way around: not all disobeyers are
>schismatics. The mere fact that the SSPX priests don't comply with
>the Holy Father's desires doesn't make them schismatics.
It does if the command was legitimate. SSPX does not view the
Pope's commands as legitimate. Why? This is a VERY slippery slope.
> But my problem with this is
>this: according to the traditional theology of Holy Orders, episcopal
>consecration does not confer jurisdiction. It only confers the power
>of Order: the ability to confect the Sacraments.
True enough.
> Jurisdiction must be
>conferred by someone else with the power to confer it (such as the
>Pope). The Society bishops, knowing the traditional theology quite
>well, take great pains to avoid any pretence of jurisdiction over
>anyone. They simply confer those Sacraments that require a bishop.
One could argue that they are establishing a non-geographic jurisdiction.
I don't know if that's even a concept or problem in Catholic circles.
Larry Overacker (llo@shell.com)
--
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Lawrence Overacker
Shell Oil Company, Information Center Houston, TX (713) 245-2965
llo@shell.com
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6341 | From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: Israeli Terrorism
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Lines: 45
In article <1rd7eo$1a4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cy779@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Anas Omran) writes:
>
> In a previous article, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) says:
>
>>In article <1993Apr24.203620.6531@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
>>>I think the Israeli press might be a tad bit biased in
>>>reporting the events. I doubt the Propaganda machine of Goering
>>>reported accurately on what was happening in Germany. It is
>>>interesting that you are basing the truth on Israeli propaganda.
>>
>>Since one is also unlikely to get "the truth" from either Arab or
>>Palestinian news outlets, where do we go to "understand", to learn?
>>Is one form of propoganda more reliable than another?
>
> There are many neutral human rights organizations which always report
> on the situation in the O.T. But, as most people used to see on TV, the
> Israelis do not allow them to go deep there in the O.T. The Israelis
> used to arrest and sometimes to kill some of these neutral reporters.
Anas, of course ! The YAHUD needed blood for the matza. After all, Passover
*was* last month :-)
Why don't you give us your National Geographic travelogue of your recent trip
to "Palestine" ? Or are you too disappointed by what you saw ? :-)
Josh
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
> So, this is another kind of terrorism committed by the Jews in Palestine.
> They do not allow fair and neutral coverage of the situation in Palestine.
>
>>to determine that is to try and get beyond the writer's "political
>>agenda", whether it is "on" or "against" our *side*.
>>
>>Tim
>
> Anas Omran
>
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6342 | From: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Parkin)
Subject: Re: DID HE REALLY RISE???
Reply-To: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Lines: 57
Another issue of importance. Was the crucification the will of God or
a tragic mistake. I believe it was a tragic mistake. God's will can
never be accomplished through the disbelief of man. Jesus came to
this world to build the kingdom of heaven on the earth. He
desperately wanted the Jewish people to accept him as the Messiah. If
the crucification was the will of God how could Jesus pray that this
cup pass from him. Was this out of weakness. NEVER. Many men and
women have given their lives for their country or other noble causes.
Is Jesus less than these. No he is not. He knew the crucification
was NOT the will of GOD. God's will was that the Jewish people accept
Jesus as the Messiah and that the kingdom of Heaven be established on
the earth with Jesus as it's head. (Just like the Jewish people
expected). If this had happened 2000 years ago can you imagine what
kind of world we would live in today. It would be a very different
world. And that is eactly what GOD wanted. Men and women of that age
could have been saved by following the living Messiah while he was on
the earth. Jesus could have established a sinless lineage that would
have continued his reign after his ascension to the spiritual world to
live with GOD. Now the kingdom of heaven on the earth will have to
wait for Christ's return. But when he returns will he be recognized
and will he find faith on this earth. Isn't it about time for his
return. It's been almost 2000 years.
Mike
In article 28885@athos.rutgers.edu, oser@fermi.wustl.edu (Scott Oser) writes:
In article <Apr.10.05.33.59.1993.14428@athos.rutgers.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
>The two historic facts that I think the most important are these:
>
>(1) If Jesus didn't rise from the dead, then he must have done something
>else equally impressive, in order to create the observed amount of impact.
>
>(2) Nobody ever displayed the dead body of Jesus, even though both the
>Jewish and the Roman authorities would have gained a lot by doing so
>(it would have discredited the Christians).
And the two simplest refutations are these:
(1) What impact? The only record of impact comes from the New Testament.
I have no guarantee that its books are in the least accurate, and that
the recorded "impact" actually happened. I find it interesting that no other
contemporary source records an eclipse, an earthquake, a temple curtain
being torn, etc. The earliest written claim we have of Jesus' resurrection
is from the Pauline epistles, none of which were written sooner than 20 years
after the supposed event.
(2) It seems probable that no one displayed the body of Jesus because no
one knew where it was. I personally believe that the most likely
explanation was that the body was stolen (by disciples, or by graverobbers).
Don't bother with the point about the guards ... it only appears in one
gospel, and seems like exactly the sort of thing early Christians might make
up in order to counter the grave-robbing charge. The New Testament does
record that Jews believed the body had been stolen. If there were really
guards, they could not have effectively made this claim, as they did.
-Scott O.
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6343 | From: Valentin E. Vulihman <vulih@ipmce.su>
Subject: Attractive drawing on the sphere
Lines: 23
Reply-To: vulih@ipmce.su
Organization: Inst. of Prec. Mech. & Comp. Equip., Moscow, Russia
S P H E R I C A L D E S I G N I N G
I have made an attractive program on AT-computer for drawing
on the sphere and pasting it of paper. For children, artists
and education. I can send an example to alt.source.wanted, on
which you can see the rotation of the sphere, if you are
interested. Children can design tesselations of the many
famous regular polyhedra without serious difficaltis, and
print patterns to paste their spherical models. Moscow, tel.
280-53-53, after 21 o'clock, or E-mail, Valentin Vulihman.
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6344 | From: dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard)
Subject: Re: Easter: what's in a name? (was Re: New Testament Double Stan
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Lines: 15
mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
> And the same goes for other cultural practices. The festival
> of Easter may possibly have some historical association with
> some pagan festival, but *today* there are, as far as I know,
> no Christians who *intend* to honor any kind of "pagan
> goddess" by celebrating Easter.
That argument would be more compelling if it were not for the
Ishtar eggs and Ishtar bunnies. Why mix pagan fertility symbols from the
worship of the pagan goddess of fertility with Biblical belief? What
would really be lost if all of you were to just drop the word "Easter" and
replace all such occurances with "Resurrection Sunday"? Would you not
show up for services if they were called "Resurrection Sunday Services"
rather than "Easter Services"?
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6345 | From: ak954@yfn.ysu.edu (Albion H. Bowers)
Subject: Re: Ducati 400 opinions wanted
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Lines: 33
Reply-To: ak954@yfn.ysu.edu (Albion H. Bowers)
NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu
In a previous article, bgardner@pebbles.es.com (Blaine Gardner) says:
>In article <1qhm02$mbs@news.ysu.edu> ak954@yfn.ysu.edu (Albion H. Bowers) writes:
>>In a previous article, markb@wc.novell.com (M. Burnham) says:
>>>Ducati 400's are REALLY slow. They don't sell them over here in US,
>>>but considering that the 750SS is not too powerful, the 400 is gonna'
>>>be a dog.
>>Oh yeah, 12.10 at 108 mph in the quarter is such a slug. Come on, when was
>>the last time you used your 750s max power peak? I think maybe you should
>>ride one first, before passing judgement, there is a lot more than just
>>maximum acceleration.
>I guess I'm out of touch, but what exactly is the Ducati 400? A v-twin
>desmo, or is it that half-a-v-twin with the balance weight where the 2nd
>cylinder would go? A 12 second 1/4 for a 400 isn't bad at all.
Sorry, I should have been more specific. The 750 SS ran the quater in
12.10 @ 108.17. The last small V-twin Duc we got in the US (and the 400 is
a Pantah based V-twin) was the 500SL Pantah, and it ran a creditable 13.0 @
103. Modern carbs and what not should put the 400 in the high 12s at 105.
BTW, FZR 400s ran mid 12s, and the latest crop of Japanese 400s will out
run that. It's hard to remember, but but a new GOOF2 will clobber an old
KZ1000 handily, both in top end and roll-on. Technology stands still for
no-one...
--
Al Bowers DOD #900 Alfa Ducati Hobie Kottke 'blad Iaido NASA
"Well goodness sakes...don't you know that girls can't play guitar?"
-Mary Chapin-Carpenter
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6346 | From: neal@magpie.linknet.com (Neal)
Subject: Re: race and violence
Organization: Manes and Associates, NYC
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Lines: 8
I replied to your message, however, it is listed as a new topic with
the title: "rnitedace and violence". Possibly line noise or error
caused to post as a new topic. I see it here as #100.
Regards,
Neal
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6347 | From: cst@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Caroline Tsang)
Subject: Graphics Library Package
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1993Apr6.051201.9535
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Lines: 15
Hi all,
I am looking for a recommandation on a good royalty free graphics
library package for C and C++ program. This is mainly use to write
children games and education software. I heard someone mentioned Genus
and also GFX ? Are they any good?
Please pardon me if my question sounds a little strange, I am asking
this question for a friend.
Thanks in advance!
Caroline Tsang
<cst@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu>
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6348 | From: al885@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gerard Pinzone)
Subject: Mitsumi CD ROM drivers fix for QEMM
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Reply-To: al885@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gerard Pinzone)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
Just to let all you faithful Mitsumi CD Rom owners....
Ever notice QEMM can't load you CD Rom driver high? Ain't it a bitch?
Well, you can call up Quarterdeck's BBS and get a hold of the new drivers
that CAN be loaded high. Sorry , I don't have their # on me. :-(
I tested them out and the seem to work great!
--
_______ ________ ________ "Small nose, loose girls, no nipples, (.|.)
/ ___/ / _____/ / __ / Iczer curls!" -=- Gerard Pinzone ).(
/ ___/ / /____ / __ / gpinzone@tasha.poly.edu ( v )
/______/ /_______/ /__/ /__/ Join the ECA Wehrmacht! Kill CM! \|/
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6349 | From: niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma)
Subject: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series
Nntp-Posting-Host: ug.cs.dal.ca
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
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In <C5HpCv.4HL@andy.bgsu.edu> klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Klopfenstein) writes:
>cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok) writes:
>> In article <1993Apr13.195301.22652@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>> }
>> } Guess which line is which:
>> } BA OBP SLG AB H 2B 3B HR BB
>> } X .310 .405 .427 571 177 27 8 8 87
>> } Y .312 .354 .455 657 205 32 1 20 35
>I just love how the Alomar fans left RBIs off this list. Give me a break!
Alomar fans left RBI fans and Runs off this list because they are dependant
on the team. (To a large extent). If Frank Thomas hit first, he'd lose a LOT
of RBI's; and anyways how many 2nd place hitters have you known to drive
in 100 runs? Doesn't happen that often.....very unlikely with Devon White's
~.300 OBP in front of you...
Gord Niguma
(fav player: John Olerud)
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6350 | From: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney)
Subject: Re: How many read sci.space?
Article-I.D.: mojo.1qkmkiINNep3
Reply-To: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu
Organization: Computer Aided Design Lab, U. of Maryland College Park
Lines: 15
NNTP-Posting-Host: queen.eng.umd.edu
In article <1993Apr15.204210.26022@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron) writes:
>
>There are actually only two of us. I do Henry, Fred, Tommy and Mary. Oh yeah,
>this isn't my real name, I'm a bald headed space baby.
Damn! So it was YOU who was drinking beer with ROBERT McELWANE in the PARKING
LOT of the K-MART!
UNLIMITED INSEMINATION OF THIS MESSAGE
RIGIDLY REFUSED
Software engineering? That's like military intelligence, isn't it?
-- > SYSMGR@CADLAB.ENG.UMD.EDU < --
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6351 | From: ETRAT@ttacs1.ttu.edu (Pack Rat)
Subject: Shuttle Launch Question
X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest
Organization: [via International Space University]
Original-Sender: isu@VACATION.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU
Distribution: sci
Lines: 16
There has been something bothering me while watching
NASA Select for a while. Well, I should'nt say
bothering, maybe wondering would be better. When
they are going to launch they say (sorry but I forget
exactly who is saying what, OTC to PLT I think)
"Clear caution & warning memory. Verify no unexpected
errors. ...". I am wondering what an "expected error" might
be. Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but
inquiring minds just gotta know............
Yeah, yeah, I know, its those dumb cosmospheres again!
=============================================================
Randy Padgett, Supervisor BITNET : ETRAT@TTACS
Academic Computing Facilities Internet : ETRAT@TTACS.TTU.EDU
Texas Tech University THEnet : TTACS::ETRAT
Lubbock, TX 79409-42042 (806) 742-3653 FAX (806) 742-1755
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6352 | From: emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Sun
Lines: 82
NNTP-Posting-Host: hernes-sun
In article <1qkj31$4c6@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>In article <lsr6ihINNsa@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
>#In article <1qjahh$mrs@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>#>Science ("the real world") has its basis in values, not the other way round,
>#>as you would wish it. If there is no such thing as objective value, then
>#>science can not objectively be said to be more useful than a kick in the head.
>#>Simple theories with accurate predictions could not objectively be said
>#>to be more useful than a set of tarot cards. You like those conclusions?
>#>I don't.
>#I think that you are changing the meaning of "values" here. Perhaps
>#it is time to backtrack and take a look at the word.
>#value n. 1. A fair equivalent or return for something, such as goods
>#or service. 2. Monetary or material worth. 3. Worth as measured in
>#usefulness or importance; merit. 4. A principle, standard, or quality
>#considered inherently worthwhile or desirable. 5. Precise meaning, as
>#of a word. 6. An assigned or calculated numerical quantity. 7. Mus.
>#The relative duratation of a tone or rest. 8. The relative darkness or
>#lightness of a color. 9. The distinctive quality of a speech or speech
>#sound.
>#In context of a moral system, definition four seems to fit best. In terms
>#of scientific usage, definitions six or eight might apply. Note that
>#these definitions do not mean the same thing.
>No, I'm using definition (3), or perhaps (4) in both cases. If there
>is no objective worth, usefulness, or importance then science has no
>objective worth, usefulness, or importance. If nothing is inherently
>worthwhile or desirable, then simple theories with accurate predictions
>are not inherently worthwhile or desirable. Do you see any flaws in this?
The problem is, your use of the word "objective" along with "values."
Both definitions three and four are inherently subjective, that is
they are particular to a given individual, or personal. You see,
what one person may see as worthwhile, another may see as worthless.
>If on the other hand, some things *have* objective worth, usefulness,
>or importance, it would be interesting to know what they are.
Again, your form of measurement in this sentence, that being of "worth"
is subjective.
>#If you can provide an objective foundation for "morality" then that will
>#be a good beginning.
>I'm not willing to attempt this until someone provides an objective
>basis for the notion that science is useful, worthy, or important in
>dealing with observed facts. Alternatively, you could try to
>demonstrate to me that science is not necessarily useful, worthy
>or important in any situation. In other words, I need to know
>how you use the term "objective".
When I find that my usage of a word is different than the usage of
that word given by another person, I try to find a standard against
which to judge that usage. In most cases, the dictionary is the standard
I use. Here is a definiton of objective:
objective ADJ. 1. Of or having to do with a material object as
distinguished from a mental concept. 2. Having actual existance.
3.a. Unenfluenced by emotion or personal prejudice. b. Based on
observable phenomenon.
By this definition, science does not have an objective worth, since the
phrase "objective worth" is an oxymoron. However you asked something a
little differently this time, you asked for an objective basis for a
notion. The fact that the use of science as an intellectual tool is
responsible for changes in our world (the changes are material, and
thus "objective") would provide an objective _basis_ for an argument.
However, the conclusion arrived at from that argument (that science is
"good") is subjective.
I think that the problem here is one of word usage. Take a little time
and read the definitions of these words: objective, subjective, worth,
value, morality, good, evil. I believe that if you think about the
meaning of them for a while, you will have to conclude that there is no
such thing as an objective morality.
>Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That'
>odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon
eric
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6353 | From: agallagh@slate.mines.colorado.edu (GALLAGHER ANDREA J )
Subject: Re: Forcing a window manager to accept specific coordinates for a window
Organization: Colorado School of Mines
Lines: 18
In article <C5r25y.HFz@cs.columbia.edu> Ethan Solomita writes:
>
> Hi. I'm trying to figure out how to make a window manager
> place the window where the create window command tells it,
> regardless of what it may think is right. (my application has
> reason to know better)
>
> I don't want to set the override-redirect because I do
> want all the embellishments that the window manager gives, I just
> want the wm to accept my choice of location.
window = XCreateWindow(...);
XSetTransientForHint(display, window, window);
XMapWindow(...);
This is probably cheating, and some window managers might STILL refuse to
give it a border and all that other stuff, but it usually works.
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6354 | From: gspira@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Spira)
Subject: Re: Braves Pitching UpdateDIR
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Lines: 28
grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner) writes:
>In article <C5L40C.9LC@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, David Robert Walker writes:
>> In article <8994@blue.cis.pitt.edu> traven@pitt.edu (Neal Traven) writes:
>>>One also has to separate offense into batting and baserunning, with the
>>>split probably somewhere around 49.5% and 0.5%.
>> I'd give baserunning a little more credit than that, maybe 45-5, or
>> even 40-10. Give a team of Roberto Alomar and a team of John Oleruds
>> identical batting stats (which wouldn't be that unreasonable), and
>> even if you don't let Roberto steal a single base, they'll score a lot
>> more than the Oleruds by going first-to-third more often. (No offense,
>> Gordon).
>I wouldn't give baserunning that much value.
I meant to comment on this at the time.
There's just no way baserunning could be that important - if it was,
runs created wouldn't be nearly as accurate as it is.
Runs Created is usually about 90-95% accurate on a team level, and
there's a lot more than baserunning that has to account for the
remaining percent.
Greg
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6355 | From: Alexander Samuel McDiarmid <am2o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: driver ??
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 15
NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu
1) I have an old Jasmine drive which I cannot use with my new system.
My understanding is that I have to upsate the driver with a more modern
one in order to gain compatability with system 7.0.1. does anyone know
of an inexpensive program to do this? ( I have seen formatters for <$20
buit have no idea if they will work)
2) I have another ancient device, this one a tape drive for which
the back utility freezes the system if I try to use it. THe drive is a
jasmine direct tape (bought used for $150 w/ 6 tapes, techmar
mechanism). Essentially I have the same question as above, anyone know
of an inexpensive beckup utility I can use with system 7.0.1
all help and advice appriciated.
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6356 | From: sfp@lemur.cit.cornell.edu (Sheila Patterson)
Subject: Re: Being right about messiahs
Organization: Cornell University CIT
Lines: 14
Jesus isn't God ? When Jesus returns some people may miss Him ? What version of
the Bible do you read Mike ?
Jesus is God incarnate (in flesh) . Jesus said, 'I and the Father are one.'
Jesus was taken up to heaven after His 40 day post-resurrection stint and the
angels who were there assured the apostles that Jesus would return the same way
and that everyone will see the coming. That's why Jesus warned that many would
come claiming to be Him but that we would know when Jesus actually returns.
These are two very large parts of my faith and you definitely hit a nerve :-)
-Sheila Patterson, CIT CR-Technical Support
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY
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6357 | From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Subject: Re: Soundblaster IRQ and Port settings
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon
Lines: 19
[]
"These LPT1, COM1, disk controller are call devices. There are
devices that requires exclusive interrupt ownership, eg. disk
controller (I6) and keyboard (I1). There are also devices that
does not require exclusive ownership, ie. it will share an
interrupt with another device, eg. LPT1"
No. In a standard ISA bus, the one that almost all non-laptop PCs use,
two separate interface cards cannot share an interrupt. This is due to
a screwup in the bus design. For example, if your Soundblaster wants
to drive interrupt number 7, then it must hold a certain bus wire to 0
or 1 at all times, depending on whether or not it wants an interrupt.
This precludes letting another card assert interrupt number 7.
When two or more devices in an ISA bus PC share an interrupt, it's
because they're implemented by a single card.
-=- Andrew Klossner (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
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6358 | From: niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma)
Subject: G. Williams sent down; Yanks win AL East
Nntp-Posting-Host: ug.cs.dal.ca
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Lines: 17
Well, it really isn't this cut and dry, but as a Jay fan the thing I feared
worst has happened. The Yanks sent down Williams G and are going to start
Williams B in CF.
I also believe they kept Wickman and Millitello in their rotation, which is
much nicer than that Kaminiecki and Mike Witt combo I thought they'd throw
out their to the slaughterhouse because of their "experience". Granted, Witt
"might" be good, but I think that they used rationale to keep the youngsters
up and not given the job to Witt because he was a good pitcher and has
experience.
The Yanks are showing that they are taking positive strides forwards; the
Jays with the loss of Dave Stewart are looking at gigantic holes in their
pitching staff.
The Orioles should also be there in the end.....
Gord Niguma
(to salvage the season,
let JJ Olerud win MVP)
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6359 | From: jf4527@adx.adelphi.edu (Jamie Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: Photogrammetric Camera
Keywords: photogrammetric Camera
Organization: Adelphi University
Lines: 20
Hello,
While refurbishing our observatory I came across the above mentioned camera. It was manufactured
by the Instrument Corporation of Florida ~ 1970. Now for my questions:
1) Does anyone have any knowledge of this equipement ?
2) Does anyone know of the company (phone numbers ?) ?
3) Are there any others out there...I need some parts.
Any responces are greatly appreciated.
take care,
jamie
jf4527@adx.adelphi.edu
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6360 | From: m23364@mwunix.mitre.org (James Meritt)
Subject: Silence is concurance
Nntp-Posting-Host: mwunix.mitre.org
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Distribution: usa
Lines: 15
Is it not the case that, in the eyes of the law, when someone is aware of
something and has the capability of taking action and does not, that individual
may be held responsible for that action?
Example: the driver of a getaway car may be held as an accomplice to murder.
The "I didn't know" defense spawned the "ignorance of the law is no excuse"
When an individual is held as a material witness to a crime, is there a criminal
charge against the individual? If not, on what grounds is the person imprisoned?
--
James W. Meritt: m23364@mwunix.mitre.org - or - jmeritt@mitre.org
The opinions above are mine. If anyone else wants to share them, fine.
They may say so if they wish. The facts "belong" to noone and simply are.
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6361 | Organization: City University of New York
From: Harold Zazula <DLMQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject: Octopus in Detroit?
Lines: 9
I was watching the Detroit-Minnesota game last night and thought I saw an
octopus on the ice after Ysebaert scored to tie the game at two. What gives?
(is there some custom to throw octopuses on the ice in Detroit?)
-------
Not Responsible -- Dain Bramaged!!
Harold Zazula
dlmqc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
hzazula@alehouse.acc.qc.edu
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6362 | From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.houghton.mi.us (Jim Johnson)
Subject: Run box w/o cover ??
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch
Lines: 25
B(>i am interested in getting the pulse of this group regarding
B(>extended operation of my G2K 486-33V with the cover removed
B(>from the enclosure. there are a # of reasons i am considering
B(>this, including quick access to jumpers during complex i/o card
B(>setups.
B(>my concern is that without a complete enclosure to direct the
B(>cooling flow of air from the fan, "hot spots" may develop on my
B(>motherboard or elsewhere.
If you have an adequate supply of air moving over the system (most
offices or homes have positive ventilation) you can generally run a
system without the cover for extended periods without a problem. (I'm
talking about completely removing the cover - not just leaving the slots
uncovered.) HOWEVER, the biggest reason you have a cover to begin with
is RF sheilding. Operating a system without the full cover may create
problems with other equipment such as your neighbor's TV or Ham radio
station - very much a no-no in the eyes of the law.
* SLMR 2.1a * Remember - They're only tools, not a way of life!
-- Via DlgQWK v0.71a
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6363 | From: hcb@netcom.com (H. C. Bowman)
Subject: 8x oversampling CD player
Keywords: oversampling, CD, digitized audio
Organization: Box of Rain Productions
Lines: 27
Hello--
I just bought a new portable CD player for the office, and I notice that
it proudly proclaims "8 TIMES OVERSAMPLING" on the box. Now while I think
I understand what oversampling is (the rate of discrete "samples"
exceeds the highest frequency component of interest by some factor),
I don't understand this "8 TIMES" business... It seems to me that when
I bought my first CD player (was it REALLY 10 years ago?!), the specs
said "4 TIMES" ... Could someone please tell me whether I'm getting
senile? If I'm not, then what good does it do for the player to take
samples at a higher rate? If I really wanted better fidelity, wouldn't
I have to have the same higher rate of sampling during the recording
process? Furthermore, am I wrong in interpreting the sampling rate
(from the player's point of view) as being the same thing as the data
rate for the bit stream coming off the optical medium? Does this mean
that the data rate (related to the rotational speed of the disk) has
changed since 1983?
I'm so confused...
--Cliff
--
| Clifford Bowman, Box 1890, Russellville, AR 72811 | hcb@netcom.com |
| I'm pretty sure the world *isn't* fair... If it | (501) 968-2232 |
| were, I'd be a lot worse off! | N5TJU |
|
6364 | From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Subject: New Duo Dock With Processor: Here's Why
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 22
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu
Well folks, after some thought the answer struck me flat in the face:
"Why would Apple release a Duo Dock with a processor of its own?"
Here's why- People have hounded Apple for a notebook with a 68040 processor
in it. Apple can't deliver that right now because the 040 saps too much
power, radiates far too much heat, and is too large for a notebook. How
does one get around that without designing a new chipset? Use existing
PowerBook technology to your best advantage. The Duo Dock gives Apple a
unique ability to give users that 040 power in a "Semi-Portable" fashion.
By plunking the 040 into the Dock, you've got "quadra" power at your desk.
On the road, that 33mhz 68030 should be able to handle most of your needs.
Okay, not the BEST solution, but its an answer to a no-win situation. :-)
So, does this mean one will be able to use the PowerBook's processor in
parallel to the dock's processor? Okay, we're getting REALLY hypothetical
now...
--
Travis Grundke | MacGames Digest- Your #1 Source for Information,
Contributing Editor, | News & Reviews of Gaming Software and the Gaming
MacGames Digest | Industry in the Macintosh Community. Reply
an780@cleveland.freenet.Edu | For More Information on MacGames Digest.
|
6365 | From: storrs@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY STORRS)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Originator: storrs@c20002-121rd.che.ncsu.edu
Keywords: brick, rock, danger, gun, violent, teenagers
Reply-To: storrs@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY STORRS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Lines: 97
In article <19APR199316162857@erich.triumf.ca>, music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH) writes:
|>Xref: taco alt.parents-teens:1937 rec.autos:101669
|>Path: taco!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!caen!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!erich.triumf.ca!music
|>From: music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH)
|>Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens,rec.autos
|>Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
|>Date: 19 Apr 1993 16:16 PST
|>Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
|>Lines: 52
|>Distribution: world
|>Message-ID: <19APR199316162857@erich.triumf.ca>
|>References: <C5JoIt.E31@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> <18APR199309481599@erich.triumf.ca> <1qs4a9$f87@bigboote.WPI.EDU> <C5r1Iy.8v0@SSD.intel.com>
|>NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
|>Summary: Violent Teenagers and victims need help.
|>Keywords: brick, rock, danger, gun, violent, teenagers
|>News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
|>
|>In article <C5r1Iy.8v0@SSD.intel.com>, jrowell@ssd.intel.com (Janet Rowell)
|> writes...
|>#>Could we plase cease this discussion. I fail to see why people feel the need
|>#>to expound upon this issue for days and days on end. These areas are not
|>#> meant for this type of discussion. If you feel the need to do such things,
|>#> please take your thought elsewhere. Thanks.
|>#
|>#I just want to second this request. I value this net group as one where people
|>#focus on solving problems and go out of their way to be respectful of
|>#differences. The hostility expressed in the original posting feels like an
|>#assault.
|>#
|>#Thanks,
|>#Jan
|>#
|>
|> Exactly my point. There is a lot of hostility to, and from, teenagers.
|>
|> Look, I sent these posts here to alt.parents-teens (with a copy to
|> rec.autos) since you people in this group may have the best advice for
|> and experience with troubled teenagers.
|>
|> If you follow the news for the northwest USA, you will have heard that a
|> group of 20-year old boys (barely out of the teens, certainly their outlook
|> was developed during their teens) just shot and killed an innocent little
|> girl riding in a car in the Seattle area when her mother (who was driving)
|> honked her horn at the car with the boys in it. This is really upsetting
|> and makes my stomach turn as it would any parent's. Doesn't your heart
|> just go out to that poor mother?
|>
Yes, Fred, my heart and prayers go out to the mother and others who have
been victims of these and other senseless crimes.
|> You folks in this group have a responsibility to offer any good advice
|> that you may have. I suspect lots of people all over the world will read
|> and appreciate your comments.
|>
However, I feel that you have missed the point of the previous postings (see
top). Your statement of 'responsibility' is felt as an attack towards the
members of this group. You are attempting to make the members of this group
be REQUIRED to answer. The only people who should make a statement are people
who have experienced the problem and found a workable solution.
|> Teenagers both drive cars and are involved in automotive vandalism and
|> crime. Maybe someone on this newsgroup has had specific experience in
|> dealing with violent teenage offenders like these kids are. At the same
|> time, maybe you would have some good advice for those hostile people who
|> sense that are now the potential victims. Maybe you would have some good
|> advice for them on how not to pay back and/or not make the situation worse.
|> Maybe you have some good advice for local authorities or schools where
|> this problem is prevalent. But then again, maybe you're not interested. :-(
Many people are interested, but have no input. I will restate that your last
sentence here is seen as an attack on the members of this group. If people have
input, they will give it. If they do not, YOU should not make them feel
compelled (sp?) to respond.
If you wish to continue this conversation, PLEASE send e-mail. DO NOT repost or
attempt to bait me, I will not make another post (and may I make the same a
suggestion to other group members) on this matter.
|>
|> Thanks in advance for your help, if we get any.
|>
BTW, your welcome.
--
===============================================================================
Jerry L. Storrs, System/Network Manager || ..."Why do you look for the living
Dept of Chemical Engineering, NCSU || among the dead? He is not here,
storrs@che.ncsu.edu (preferred) || He is risen!"
storrs@eos.ncsu.edu || ^^^^^^^^^^^ Luke 24:5-6
<>< || THE LORD IS RISEN INDEED!!
===============================================================================
Any statement made is the explicit belief of the writer and not the employer.
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6366 | From: bca@ece.cmu.edu (Brian C. Anderson)
Subject: Re: Win NT - what is it???
Originator: bca@packard.ece.cmu.edu
Lines: 11
Reply-To: bca@ece.cmu.edu (Brian C. Anderson)
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: cmu
In article <1qmc7e$g1b@access.digex.net>, wild@access.digex.com (wildstrom) writes:
|> From: wild@access.digex.com (wildstrom)
|> Subject: Re: Win NT - what is it???
|> Date: 16 Apr 1993 09:27:10 -0400
//// Much stuff deleted //////
What is Win32? I upgraded to Mathcad 4.0 and it installed a directory for
Win32 under \windows\system . During the upgrade it told me that win32 was
required.
|
6367 | From: newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton)
Subject: Re: Cache card for IIsi
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Lines: 64
NNTP-Posting-Host: mohawk.cs.utexas.edu
> Can some people with cache cards PLEASE post speedometer numbers they
> get with the cards. I have only one report, which seems to indicate
> that a 32K cache card gives you only about a 1% speedup!!
Ok. I have a record that shows a IIsi with and without a 64KB cache.
It's small enough that I will attach it.
I have also measured some real programs with and without the 64 KB
cache. The speedup varies a lot from app to app, ranging from 0% to
40%. I think an average of 20%-25% is about right. The subjective
difference is not great, but is sometimes noticable. A simple cache
card certainly does not transform a IIsi into something enormously
better. I do not have an FPU.
The conventional wisdom says that cache cards from all of the makers
offer about the same speedup and that there is not much difference
between 32K and 64K caches. I bought mine from Third Wave for well
under $150. I have had absolutely no problems at all with it.
If you get *complete* speedometer runs for a 32K cache, I'd like to
see them. Let's check the conventional wisdom! The so called
"Performance Rating" numbers by themselves are of no interest.
Cheers.
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6368 | From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra)
Subject: Superstars and attendance (was Teemu Selanne, was +/- leaders)
Nntp-Posting-Host: stpl.ists.ca
Organization: Solar Terresterial Physics Laboratory, ISTS
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Dean J. Falcione (posting from jrmst+8@pitt.edu) writes:
[I wrote:]
>>When the Pens got Mario, granted there was big publicity, etc, etc,
>>and interest was immediately generated. Gretzky did the same thing for LA.
>>However, imnsho, neither team would have seen a marked improvement in
>>attendance if the team record did not improve. In the year before Lemieux
>>came, Pittsburgh finished with 38 points. Following his arrival, the Pens
>>finished with 53, 76, 72, 81, 87, 72, 88, and 87 points, with a couple of
^^
>>Stanley Cups thrown in.
>It was at this point the Pens attendance was near capacity (34 out of 40
>sellouts) yet they hadn't made the playoffs since 1982. How do you explain
>a 6th place team breaking attendance records when they haven't been to the
>playoffs in 7 years? Mario Lemieux is the explanation, IMHO.
>You could make a case that the *expectation* of an improving team that
>would make the playoffs is the reason.
Funny you should mention it...this is exactly the case I was going to make.
>But I think the reason is Lemieux
>had a 168 point season and was the first non-Gretzky to win the Hart and
>Ross since 1980. People turned out to watch him play.
I will grant that a star like Mario will draw fans, even if the team sucks.
But this is short term only; I still do not think the attendance increase
will last, unless the team is a winning/competitive/improving/butt-kicking
one. Pittsburgh was still getting better, so people continued to support
them. If they suddenly dropped to, say, 50 points, you'd have knee surgery
for some of the people jumping off the bandwagon.
>Also, the following year (88-89) the Pens had 89 points not 87.
Ok. My numbers came from the NHL Guide and Record Book.
>They made the transaction to try and build a winner around Mario, that is
>true. But the improvement in attendance came before they started doing
>this (Coffey late in 1987) and before they even had a playoff bound team.
>A doubling of attendance occured in 1984-85 from the previous year. An
>increase from 38 points to 53 points is not going to do that. The arrival
>of Mario Lemieux is what did it.
You can give the credit to Mario since he deserves it. But my point is that
it wasn't Mario himself, but it was the *expectation* of things to come (i.e.
a winning team) that he created by being the next great hockey superstar. And
before anybody jumps in and says I'm nit-picking and mincing words, go back
and read from where this thread started...
It might help to think about what would go through a fan's mind who suddenly
found an interest in Mario and the Pens. Was it "gee, Mario Lemieux is
amazing, I'll go watch him play", or was it "gee, now we've got a *kick*
*ass* guy on *our* side, I'll go watch him play". I think it was the latter.
> Similar thing happened in L.A. Before
>Gretzky's arrival, about 12000 per game. After, constant sellouts. They
>are STILL selling out every game despite showing little or no improvement
>since Gretzky's first year there. How do you explain it? People are going
>to see Gretzky. they certainly aren't going to see a winner, they haven't
>GOT a winner. They've had MUCH better teams in their past history than
>they currently have, yet they didn't draw as well then.
I don't think this is accurate. The *tickets* sell, but people don't go to
the games. I think this thread has already been discussed...season ticket
holders in LA don't always use their tickets. So in effect, after the Kings
initial success following Gretzky's arrival (68 to 91 points, same source)
and corresponding attendance jump, there has been an effective drop in
attendance even though ticket sales may not have changed much.
Whether or not the Kings are a 'winner' is debatable. I claim that since
Gretzky's arrival they have at the very least been competitive...I also claim
that McNall has made a stupid move in trying to reassemble the Oiler
dynasty...but that's another story and included only because I don't like
McNall:-). Anyway, McNall did do some heavy marketing around Gretzky, and
that undoubtedly was also responsible for the attendance and merchandising
sales, etc. But as I said, when the Kings have been in there little
tailspins over the past couple of years there have been empty seats at the
Forum even if the tickets were sold.
>I think in the case of a Lemieux or Gretzky, the player can transcend
>winning as the major drawing power.
For the short term, IMO. Although I think that it's inevitable that the team
will improve with a player such as Lemieux or Gretzky, simply because they
make people around them better.
>But winning sure as hell helps. ;-)
Well, at least we are in full agreement here!
>This does not make Roger's point any more valid, but the Jets aren't
So are you saying Roger has ever had a valid point? <couldn't resist...>
>getting a HUGE jump in productivity, yet they ARE getting a huge
>jump in attendance. This is due to the emergence of Teemu Selanne.
>They have the 17th best record in hockey, it sure as hell isn't because
>they are winning.
Yes, but they are doing no worse than last year. I think the same type of
reasoning I applied to a new Pittsburgh fan applies to all the extra people
showing up at Winnipeg games. It's difficult to predict, but do you think
that if the Jets miss the playoffs next season that in the year after they
will maintain their attendance levels? I seriously doubt it, because in that
case the expectation of an improving team would be gone, with or without
Selanne.
I did provide the example of Rocket Ismail and the Toronto Argonauts of the
CFL...did you leave it out because you don't know much about the CFL? If
that's the case then fair enough, but if it isn't the case then I'm curious
to hear your explanation.
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6369 | From: swoithe@crackle.uucp (Stan Woithe)
Subject: Re: Mars Observer Update - 04/14/93
Organization: University of Adelaide
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Distribution: world
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Keywords: Mars Observer, JPL
Hiya
I'm a VERY amuture astronomer in Adelaide Australia, and today, I heard some
very interesting and exciting news from a local program on TV. As I couldn't
find anything on it on the news server, I have posted this. However, if it is
old information, tell me, and ill sue the TV station for saying they are
'Up to date' ;-)
(Also, my news server could be slow. . so . . .!!!
I only caught the end of the article, so all the information on the topic
is not known to me at the moment.
The news is of a small 'psudo' planet outside the orbit of pluto found in a
Hawiian obsevatory, supposably 'recently' - acording to the report.
It was meant to be about 150miles in diamater, and a faily large distance
from the plutos orbit. (it had a computer drawing, and the orbit distance
from pluto was about the same as neptune to pluto when they are furthest
apart. This is all I found out about it. OH it is called Karna. (un-officially
).
CAn anyone give any more information to me on it???
Thanx.
Brendan Woithe
swoithe@crackle.aelmg.adelaide.edu.au
BTW - if this is old news, does anyone know a good lawyer. . . .8)
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6370 | From: thia@sce.carleton.ca (Yong Thia)
Subject: VESA LOCAL BUS
Summary: VESA
Keywords: VESA
Organization: Carleton University
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Hi! I was wondering if anyone out there could point me to where I can
get the VESA specifications or any relevant books on this subject.
Regards
Jimmy
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6371 | From: rhorwell@crab.network-a (Roland Faragher-Horwell,crab)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all tim
Reply-To: rhorwell@atc.boeing.com
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
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In article 1EL@targhee.idaho.amdahl.com, rbs@sawtooth.idaho.amdahl.com (Bob Smith) writes:
>In article <1993Apr7.173712.23250@cas.org>, sdm24@cas.org () writes:
>> IMHO, the dumbest thing we *ever* did in copying the Japanese was moving the
>> dimmer switch from the floor to the lever controlling the turn signal/cruise
>> control/bun warmer, etc.
>
>Well, my 1973 Porsche had the dimmer on the turn signal stalk. Guess those
>dumb Germans were copying the Japanese too. :-)
>
>[rest deleted]
>> --
Not to mention my friend's '54 Citroen Traction Avant with the light switch and
dimmer integrated in a single stalk off the steering column! Those dumb French
were apparently copying the Japanese before the Germans! :^)
Roland
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6372 | From: paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen)
Subject: Re: Braves Pitching UpdateDIR
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In article <1993Apr15.001211.18457@adobe.com>, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr14.200649.12578@pts.mot.com> ep502dn@pts.mot.com writes:
|> >This certainly passes the "common sense test" for me, but is there any
|> >statistical evidence to say what percent of defense is pitching and what
|> >percent is fielding?
|>
|> Not yet; I wish there were. It's much more difficult to tease these apart
|> than to tease apart scoring runs and preventing runs.
And thus, we come to one of the true beauties of baseball; these things, along
with many others will never be separated. Almost *everything* in baseball is
situational and interdependent. This is what allows us to carry on all the
arguments that we have. If everything could be explained and balanced on a
statistical basis, none of the wonder and mystery would be left. Why we might
have to resort to just going out the ballyard and enjoy the game itself.
--->Paul, feeling a little anti-stathead today
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We will stretch no farm animal beyond its natural length
paula@koufax.cv.hp.com Paul Andresen Hewlett-Packard (503)-750-3511
home: 3006 NW McKinley Corvallis, OR 97330 (503)-752-8424
A SABR member since 1979
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6373 | From: netd@susie.sbc.com ()
Subject: Re: Biblical Backing of Koresh's 3-02 Tape (Cites enclosed)
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In article <20APR199301460499@utarlg.uta.edu> b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (stephen) writes:
>For those who think David Koresh didn't have a solid structure,
>or sound Biblical backing for his hour long tape broadcast,
I don't think anyone really cares about the solid structure of his
sermon. It's the deaths he's responsible for that concern most people.
>I've enclosed a partial list of the sources he cites or quotes
>he exactly used. As a Christian sermon, it's pretty good, if not
>inspired.
>
>Though I differ in part on some of his conclusions, the argument
>he presents is well backed -- which is why it's taken me this long
>to work through -- still ongoing.
>
>If you thought it was rambling -- that says far more about you than
>it does Koresh. There is a very definite relationship between the
You've made me curious. What does this say about me?
>First Seal in Revelation 6, the entirety of Psalms 45, and the
>most of Revelation 19 -- which demonstrated one of his major points
>about how the writings in the Prophets (including David), and in
>the Psalms, and in Revelation are all telling the same story when
>you understand how they're related (ie have the key). The largely
>explain each other.
Charles Manson used revelation as well. Do we see a pattern here?
I wonder of Koresh liked the Beatles?
>
>The sequence following is keyed to the Koresh tape, should you care
>to check it out. You can almost see the note cards he used when
>doing the analysis.
>
[long list of Biblical references which
impressed me tremendously but were deleted
in the interests of common sense.]
Koresh was a nut, okay? Just because he found ways for the Bible
to backup his rantings does not make him any less of a kook.
>
>Seems to me Koresh is yet another messenger that got killed
>for the message he carried.
I'll type this very slowly so that you can understand. He either set
the fire himself or told his followers to do so. Don't make him out to
be a martyr. He did not "get killed", he killed himself.
>
>In the mean time, we sure learned a lot about evil and corruption.
>Are you surprised things have gotten that rotten?
>
The evil was inside the compound. All that "thou shalt not kill" stuff.
>Oh yeah, one last point for the believers -- Philippian 2:14-19.
For the rest of us, could you please post the text?
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6374 | From: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi)
Subject: Re: BMW 3 series for 94?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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From article <eabu288-140493210752@dialin33635.slip.nts.uci.edu>, by eabu288@orion.oac.uci.edu (Alvin):
>
> Is there going to be a BMW 328 in 1994?
--Could be. Isn't the 2.5 liter six supposed to be enlarged to 2.8 liters
in the not-too-distant future?
--Aamir Qazi
--
Aamir Qazi
qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
--Why should I care? I'd rather watch drying paint.
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6375 | From: st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Adam Levin)
Subject: Early BBDDD Returns?
Reply-To: st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
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Just curious if anyone has started to standout early in the season in the
BB DDD this year. I expect the Phillies staff, while getting the wins,
would have to rank up there. Luis Gonzalez and Derrick May are among
the early league leaders, and all 6 of their bombs have come at the
Phils' expense. Neither of them have exactly been know for their tater
prowess in the past.
How have the Rockies been early? I know Mile High has produced a ton of
runs, but is it the launching pad everyone expected yet?
A concerned fan of the BB DDD,
Adam "Witness to the Phillies lone loss of the season so far" Levin
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6376 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: Objective morality (was Re: <Political Atheists?)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>> Which type of morality are you talking about? In a natural sense, it
>> is not at all immoral to harm another species (as long as it doesn't
>> adversely affect your own, I guess).
>Hehehe, so you say, but this objective morality somehere tells you
>that this is not the case, and you don't know all the rules of such
>transcendental game systems...
Which objective system are you talking about? What is its goal?
Again, which brand of morality are you talking about?
keith
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6377 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: some thoughts.
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In article <bissda.4.734849678@saturn.wwc.edu>, bissda@saturn.wwc.edu (DAN
LAWRENCE BISSELL) wrote:
>
> First I want to start right out and say that I'm a Christian. It
> makes sense to be one. Have any of you read Tony Campollo's book- liar,
> lunatic, or the real thing? (I might be a little off on the title, but he
> writes the book. Anyway he was part of an effort to destroy Christianity,
> in the process he became a Christian himself.
Seems he didn't understand anything about realities, liar, lunatic
or the real thing is a very narrow view of the possibilities of Jesus
message.
Sigh, it seems religion makes your mind/brain filter out anything
that does not fit into your personal scheme.
So anyone that thinks the possibilities with Jesus is bound to the
classical Lewis notion of 'liar, lunatic or saint' is indeed bound
to become a Christian.
Cheers,
Kent
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sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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6378 | From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card
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In article <CMM.0.90.2.735132009.thomasp@surt.ifi.uio.no> Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>Drivers licence:
>Forgot that USA is THE land of cars.....
>Getting one in Scandinavia (and northern europe) is not easy.
>Average time is about 20 hours of training, and the cost is rather......
Is the license required for driving a car exclusively on private
property, such as a farm? Here in the United States, the license
is required only for the use of public roads.
>Abuse by the goverment:
>This seems to be one of the main problems; Any harder gun-control
>would just be abused by the goverment.(!)
>Either some of you are a little paranoid (no offence...) OR you should
>get a new goverment. (You do have elections??)
We also have a nation of 250 million people, _many_ issues and
usually only two candidates for a given office. A President
might be willing to abuse mild gun control laws and create
a de-facto ban (something a majority of the people would object to)
and still be elected: The voters might look at issues like the
civil rights of minorities, health care, etc... and vote
for the "lesser of two evils." I don't think this is a matter
of paranoia, since local governments in (for example) New York
and Chicago have abused existing, mild gun control laws to
create a virtual ban.
>Guns 'n Criminals:
>MOST weapons used by criminals today are stolen.
>Known criminals can NOT buy weapons, that's one of the points of gun control.
In which case, the United States already has adaquate gun control laws:
According to federal statistic, only 7% of gun-wielding criminals
legally purchase their own guns from licensed dealers. If that's
the point of gun control (to prevent criminals from legally purchasing
guns) then America doesn't need any additional laws to accomplish
this.
>Mixing weapons and things that can be use as one:
>What I meant was that cars CAN kill, but they are not GUNS!
How is this any different from guns? There are legal purposes for
owning and using a gun: They are appropriate tools for hunting,
target shooting and self-defence. Like cars, murder isn't
their only (or even a common) use.
>If 50% of ALL murders was done with axes, would you impose some regulations on them
>or just say that they are ment to be used at trees, and that the axe is not a problem,
>it's the 'axer' ??
I certainly couldn't imagine the American public accepting regulation
of axes. While the politics of other nations may be different,
in America there is strong opposition to any intrusive law that
primarily would effect the average, law-abiding citizen who had
not done anything wrong.
>Think about the situation in Los Angeles where people are buying guns to protect
>themselves. Is this a good situation ?? Is it the rigth way to deal with the problem ??
A good way to deal with which problem? It is an excelent way to deal
with the short-term problem of rioting and violent attacks. Of course,
it doesn't do anything for the long-term issues that start riots. But
at this point, what can these individuals do about long-term social
problems?
>If everybody buys guns to protect themselves from criminals (and their neighbor who have
>guns) what do you think will happen ?? (I mean if everybody had a gun in USA)
There are, according to surveys, guns in 40% of American homes.
In many parts of the country, this is closer to 100%. Those places
where almost everyone owns a gun are, on average, safer than those
where guns are less common.
>LAST WORD:
>Responsible gun owners are not a problem, but they will be affected if
>you want to protect your citicens.
This is, I think, a fundamental difference between American government
and that of other nations. Here it is not acceptable to punish
or restrict the average, law-abiding citizen in the name of some
vague "common good."
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
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6379 | From: djk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dan Keldsen)
Subject: ROK-STEADY keyboard stand FOR SALE - UPDATE
Article-I.D.: geraldo.1qodih$2t2
Reply-To: djk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dan Keldsen)
Distribution: usa
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Originator: djk@tramp.cc.utexas.edu
Hello again folks!
Been a while since I last sold thangs, but the last time went with no problems,
and I'm moving again, so I have a few keyboard stands that I don't need
anymore and don't want to drag back across the country.
---
Ultimate Support Stand:
**Probably SOLD, will see if it is gone by Saturday (pick-up date).
---
Rok-Steady 3-tier keyboard stand:
$95 or best offer (try me)
one x-shaped bottom unit, with two sets of "arms" that attach
to that to support keyboard (2) above the main "X".
---
Shipping not included in the above prices, but details can be worked out
if you're interested in these items.
dan keldsen - djk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
--
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Dan Keldsen | Are you now, or have you ever been:
djk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | a. A Berklee College student?
Univ. of Texas, Austin | b. A member/fan of Billy Death?
Music Composition, MM | c. a MAX programmer?
M & M Consultant (ask) | d. a Think-C & MIDI programmer?
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6380 | From: nstramer@supergas.dazixco.ingr.com (Naftaly Stramer)
Subject: Re: How many israeli soldiers does it take to kill a 5 yr old child?
Nntp-Posting-Host: supergas
Reply-To: nstramer@dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Electronics
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In article <1993Apr13.164305.701@bernina.ethz.ch>, nadeem@p.igp.ethz.ch (Nadeem Malik) writes:
>
>Actually, if can remember correctly, was it not reported and even on camera
>some time during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, or when the itifada began,
>that CNN caught regular uniformed Israeli soldiers breaking the arms of
>some Arab youngsters in a very professional and brutal manner, (someone
>please give full details if they can remember).
So was it on CNN or not?
>This is one of the few
>occassions on which such a scene has been transmitted to the West and
>in the USA ... it caused uproar and was one of the factors that has significantly
>changed the preception of the Israeli army's role in the mid-east.
>
>So there is proof for you!
What proof. You said above: "was it not reported..." and "someone please give
full details if they can remember". Hear say is not proof.
>It is obvious that is a systematic policy of the
>Israelis which must be occurring on a massive scale behind the scenes.
Yes, like the 700 or more Palestinians brutally murdered by their brothers.
>
>Nadeem
>
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Internet: nstramer@dazixco.ingr.com | 6101 Lookout Road, Suite A
Voice: (303)581-2370 FAX: (303)581-9972 | Boulder, CO 80301
"Quality is everybody's job, and it's everybody's job to watch all that they can."
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6381 | From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: Hilter and homosexuals
Article-I.D.: optilink.15225
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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In article <ericsC4x1K9.Apz@netcom.com>, erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith) writes:
> gsmith@lauren.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith) writes:
#
# #Are you saying that:
#
# #(1) People voted for Hitler, and he became Reich Chancellor, in good
# #part because he used bully boys to attack communists,
#
# Hitler did not become become Reich Chancellor because people voted for
# him. I'm not sure if you meant to imply that or not, but I just thought
# I'd bring that up.
#
# Eric Smith
Hitler became Chancellor because people voted for his political
party. That's not a huge difference in a parliamentary system.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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6382 | From: harwood@umiacs.umd.edu (David Harwood)
Subject: Re: Essene New Testament
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742
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[William Christie asked about the Essene NT.
Andrew Kille reponded
>There is a collection of gospels which usually goes under the name of the
>"Essene Gospel of Peace." These are derived from the gnostics, not the
>essenes, and are ostensibly translations from syriac texts of the fourth
>and fifth centuries (I vaguely recall; I can't find my copy right now).
--clh]
There had been recent criticism of this in a listserv for academic
Biblical scholars: they all say the book(s) are modern fakes.
D.H.
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6383 | From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Flames Truly Brutal in Loss
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
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In article <vzhivov.735193129@cunews> vzhivov@superior.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov) writes:
>As the subject suggests the Flames were not impressive this afternoon,
>dropping a 6-3 decision to the LA Kings. Most of the Flames neglected
>to show up, especially in their own zone, as the Kings hit at least
>five posts! The Flames best line was probably
Mike Vernon is now 3 wins 11 losses plus that All-Star game debacle in
afternoon games during his career...with another afternoon game with
Los Angeles next Sunday...has the ABC deal doomed the Flames?
Gerald
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6384 | From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Subject: Re: Tektronix
Organization: The Internet
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To: mike@hopper.virginia.edu, xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
#
# I remember seeing something in the X distribution mentioning support
# for a Tektronix terminal in an X server. Is this accurate?
#
Xterm supports 401x emulation.
Patrick L. Mahan
--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------
Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered - Lazarus Long
a capital crime. For a first offense, that is From the Notebooks of
Lazarus Long
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6385 | From: so@eiffel.cs.psu.edu (Nicol C So)
Subject: Re: Source of random bits on a Unix workstation
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Organization: Penn State Computer Science
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In article <897@pivot.sbi.com> bet@sbi.com (Bennett Todd @ Salomon Brothers Inc., NY ) writes:
>This came up because I decided to configure up MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 security
>for X11R5. For this to work you need to stick some bits that an intruder
>can't guess in a file (readable only by you) which X client applications
>read. They pass the bits back to the server when they want to establish a
>connection.
>
>...
>What I settled on was grabbing a bunch of traffic off the network.
>Basically, I ran
>
> etherfind -u -x greater 0|compress
>
>and skipped over 10K of output, then grabbed my bits. As best I can tell,
>these are bits that can be expected to be reasonably uniformly distributed,
>and quite unguessable by an intruder.
For your application, what you can do is to encrypt the real-time clock
value with a secret key.
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6386 | From: swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood)
Subject: Western Digital HD info needed
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I was recently loaned an older Dec 210 286 at work, and I have the option
of adding an additional Western Digital Hard-drive to the machine. The
existing drive is currently a Western Digital as well, and is working fine,
but I do not have any documentation available for configuring the master/slave
relationship necessary for a c: d: drive setup.
The first drive is currently formatted to Tandy Dos v3.3 but I am eventually
going to upgrade both to MS Dos v 5.0
The drives themselves are both model number WD95044-A circa 5-07-1991
They are 782 cyl 4 head drives. A note to add is that there is no exact
configuration for these in my current bios, but it seems to work at a
setting 17 (977 cyl 5 head, 300 write_pre, 977 landing zone).
There are three pairs of jumper pins on the back that I presume are
for setting up the master/slave. Originally, the drive in the machine
had none. Currently, I was suggested to try the far right (looking at the
back) for master and the middle jumper for the slave.
When booted, the reinitialize seems to puke accessing the d: drive. It does
flicker about three times on the second drive, but then gives the error.
Hopefully the problem is as simple as the drive not being formatted, but not
being a person who has ever had to actual format and unformatted drive, I
would not even know how to do that.
Any and all help on this is great fully appreciated. If not, a number
for Western Digital might just do as good!
swood
--
Hunting over in Michigan? Don't Despair - NO CLOSED SEASON ON:
opossum, porcupine, weasel, red squirrel, skunk, starlings,
feral pigeons, English sparrows, ground squirrel & woodchuck
Anyway trout season opens the last Saturday this month.
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6387 | From: stephens@geod.emr.ca (Dave Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Old Spacecraft as NAvigation Beacons!
Nntp-Posting-Host: ngis.geod.emr.ca
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Lines: 21
nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>Other idea for old space crafts is as navigation beacons and such..
>Why not?? If you can put them on "safe" "pause" mode.. why not have them be
>activated by a signal from a space craft (manned?) to act as a naviagtion
>beacon, to take a directional plot on??
>Wierd or what?
>==
>Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
There is a whole constellation of custom built navigation beacon satellites
in the process of being phased out right now. The TRANSIT/OSCAR satellites
are being replaced by GPS. Or were you thinking of deep space navigation,
which is best done with doppler/VLBI/ stellar measurements. I do not think
additional radio beacons would help much.
--
Dave Stephenson
Geological Survey of Canada
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Internet: stephens@geod.emr.ca
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6388 | From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Subject: Re: Fwd: FREE NRA MEMBERSHIP OFFER
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)
Lines: 28
andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
>
>The NRA supports anyone who's pro-gun and has a chance of winning
>election, regardless of their other positions. Is it their fault that
>some drug-legalizers are anti-gun? Is it their fault that the
>drug-legalizers who are pro-gun can't get elected?
It's not the NRA's fault; but it is something to consider if you are
considering contributing to the NRA. If candidate B is a complete asshole
whose only saving grace is that he opposes unnecessary restrictions on
firearms, I wouldn't want my membership dues funding efforts to get him
re-elected.
I have other problems with the NRA (as an organization; the individual
members I've met have been loyal, trustworthy, honest, brave, etc.,
especially my boss who probably reads this newsgroup B->); they are
definitely pro-hunting, and I recall seeing a pro-Desert Storm NRA bumper
sticker. Sometimes they come on too strong in the political arena, which
contributes to their reputation as "bad guys" amoung many people.
===============================================================================
Tom Swiss/tms@cs.umd.edu | "Born to die" | Keep your laws off my brain!
"What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" - Nick Lowe
This .sig contains no animal products and was not tested on animals.
"I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent
less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her
sweetness and respecting her seniority." -- E.B. White
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6389 | From: mhembruc@tsegw.tse.com (Mattias Hembruch)
Subject: Re: Can I Change ""Licensed To"" Data in Windows 3.1?
Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange
Lines: 35
rmohns@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>This is in relation to a question concerning changing the registered to:
>information of MS-Windows...
>In a previous article, 2a42dubinski@vms.csd.mu.edu wrote:
>>
>> ahh, yes, this is a fun topic. No, once the name is incribed on the
>>disk, that is it, it is encoded. Not even a HEX editor will find it. You can
>>write over the "Licensed to:", but you can't change the name underneth it. I
>I can find it with a HEX editor, although I have not tried to overwrite it.
>Are you sure it can't be? You may be mistaken about this. (???)
>Rob
>rmohns@vax.clarku.edu
On a similar note, has anyone found out a way to do this with MS FoxPro for
Windows? My setup.ini file was modified on disk 1 (all encrypted).. Well,
of course I forgot about Microsoft's stupid arrangement when I got the
software, and used my name (it was paid for by the company I'm doing
consulting for. When my job is done, it's their software).. Any ideas before
I start doing dumb things to a copy of that file??
Mattias
ps NO - I don't want to pirate this software. I just want to avoid having
to buy a new copy in order to change the registration information and then
having a copy lying around I don't use...
maybe I can get a new disk 1...
--
Mattias Hembruch
>> My views do not necessarily reflect those of the TSE. <<
E-mail: mhembruc@tse.com
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6390 | From: tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: FBI Director's Statement on Waco Standoff
Article-I.D.: shelley.1r2ko0INNqe5
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95
Lines: 9
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu
feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>We have NO evidence that BATF & FBI would not have started shooting
>when and if people had started coming out of the burning building.
Oh? How about the press? If the BATF & FBI were going to shoot people
leaving a burning building, don't you think they would get rid of the
press first?
--Tim Smith
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6391 | From: noye@midway.uchicago.edu (vera shanti noyes)
Subject: Re: Am I going to Hell?
Reply-To: noye@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 51
In article <Apr.24.01.09.10.1993.4254@geneva.rutgers.edu> stoney@oyster.smcm.edu (Stanley Toney) writes:
> Muslims, i fear have been given a lie from the
>fater of lies, Satan. They need Christ as do us all.
>
>stan toney stoney@oyster.smcm.edu
>my opinions are my own, you may borrow them
just picked out this one point because it struck me....
why do you believe this? muslims believe in many of the same things
that christians and jews believe; they believe jesus, while not the
messiah, is a prophet. this seems to me to be much closer to
christianity than other religions are. (then again i tend to be
somewhat liberal about others' beliefs.)
this also relates to the serbian "ethnic cleansing" question. i have
been waiting for condemnations of this and have seen very few. HOW
can we stand by and watch innocent people, even people whose beliefs
we condemn, if this is the case (and don't get me wrong, the things
fundamenalist muslims have to say about women make my blood boil), be
tortured, raped (the stories about that made me physically ill), and
killed? jesus loves all, not just those who love him back -- and he
would advocate kindness toward them (in the hopes of converting them,
if that's the way you want to put it) rather than killing them.
i'm sorry i got off the subject here -- maybe i should have used a
different title. i did need to get this off my chest, however.
peace (shalom),
vera shanti
_______________________________________________________________________________
Hand over hand noye@midway.uchicago.edu
Doesn't seem so much (Vera Noyes)
Hand over hand
Is the strength of the common touch drop me a line if you're in the mood
- Rush, "Hand Over Fist"
_______________________________________________________________________________
[I am also worried about this issue. I've made a posting under my own
name earlier today. I do not much want to discuss Moslem beliefs
here. This isn't the right group for it. Their beliefs about Jesus
appear to come as much from the Koran as the Bible. This means that
while they honor him, what they think he did and stood for differs in
many ways from Christian beliefs about him. But Moslem beliefs are
an appropriate topic for soc.religion.islam.
As I'm sure you know, many Christians believe that you must accept
Christ in order to be saved. While Stanley's comment appears to be
anti-Moslem, I would assume he would say the same thing about all
religions other than Christianity.
--clh]
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6392 | From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio)
Subject: Re: European expansion and our f*cked system
Originator: jpc@condor
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510
Lines: 29
|> How long would they support teams that are run on Ranger-based
|> corporate thinking (I use the term lightly). (We don't need a good
|> product because these duffuses in NYC would fill the arena for Ottawa's
|> record every year......1940!! haha (sorry, had ta say it)).
Look how long the Maple Leafs and Nordiques used similar logic.... Not that
they fielded bad teams solely to field bad teams, but the Maple Leafs (and a
certain dead man who was in charge) were one of the cheapest teams in the
history of the sport. Guess what-- they were immensely popular at the
gate. The Nordiques have also done well for a team that had missed the
playoffs so many years in a row.
|> Look at British (or any European) soccer as an example (they never have fan
|> problems).
Ha! Such humor! They have MAJOR fan problems, namely that on occasion some of
them don't make it home from the match! The soccer fans tend to be fanatical,
much like the Montreal fans who firebomb the players and coaches houses when
they play pathetically.
-JPC
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John P. Curcio Go Bruins! Philips Laboratories
jpc@philabs.philips.com 345 Scarborough Road
(914) 945-6442 Briarcliff Manor, NY 10510
|
6393 | From: DICKG@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Dick Grant)
Subject: Memory in Plus&SE
Organization: Temple University
Lines: 8
Nntp-Posting-Host: vm.temple.edu
X-Newsreader: NNR/VM S_1.3.2
I have to increase the memory in a Plus or SE (I'm not sure which since
I haven't seen it yet). I did this a few years ago but I no longer have the
instructions. I forget which resistor needs to be cut to go from 1 to 4 Mbs.
Can anyone direct me to this information? Is there an ftp'able doc some-
where with diagrams?
Thanks, Dick Grant
|
6394 | From: ptorre@hardy.u.washington.edu (Phil Torre)
Subject: Circuit Cellar Ink address?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Lines: 2
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu
Summary: Address or phone number for subscriptions?
Is CCI still published? If so, does anyone have their address?
|
6395 | From: mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Strider)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Lines: 43
NNTP-Posting-Host: louie.cc.utexas.edu
roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
:mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Strider) writes:
:
:According to an Australian documentary made in the year before the stand off
:began, Koresh and his followers all believed he was Christ. Koresh
:had sex with children and women married to other men in the compound.
:These were the "perfect children" resulting from the "great seed" of
:his "magnified horn". Ex-members describe him in ways not dissimilar
:to the way Jim Jones has been described.
I don't know how accurate the documentary was; however, Koresh was never
convicted of any crimes against children, nor was the BATF after him for
child abuse. Their purview (in this case) is strictly in firearms violations,
so this information is irrelevant to the discussion.
:FBI agents have to pass rigorous psychological examinations and background
:checks. Plus, those in charge will undoubtedly have to explain their
:decisions in great detail to congress. Why would the FBI want to fulfill
:Koresh's own prophecy?
Those in charge will undoubtedly have to explain *something*, but whether
their answers even remotely resembles the truth we may never know. And who
is left alive to care whether the prophecy is fulfilled? It only holds
meaning for the nine who survived.
:>Correction: The *FBI* said that two of the cult members said this; so far,
:>no one else has been able to talk to them.
:
:So, when they talk to the news reporters directly, and relate the same
:details, will you believe them?
*IF* they confirm the story, I probably will. Definitely not until then,
however.
Mike Ruff
--
- This above all, to thine own S T R I D E R mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
- self be true. --Polonius * * ***** ** * * **** ***** *** * *
Those who would sacrifice essential * * * * * * * * * * ** *
liberties for a little temporary * * * **** * * **** * * * * *
safety deserve neither liberty * * * * * * * * * * * **
nor safety. --B. Franklin **** * * * **** **** * *** * *
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6396 | From: epwong@nyx.cs.du.edu (Elliott Wong)
Subject: Help! KA9Q/Ethernet
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Follow-Ups: poster
Lines: 19
Dear All,
I am trying to get my standard connection going with KA9Q (PA0GRI113016)
and a GVC NIC-2000 ethernet card. I know that my router and modem is
working because I am able to ping, finger, and even telnetd with it.
However, after a time, it crashes randomly. Help would be
greatly appreciated.
I suspect that there is a hardware conflict in the PC. I am
running with a 386SX/33, 2 MB Ram. The Ethernet card is configured
for IRQ 5, ports 0x360-0x37F.
Thanks in advance. I know that it's not much to go on, but I
don't even know what the questions to ask are, sorry.
Please send mail.
Elliott
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6397 | From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Internet Discussion List
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Lines: 22
In article <1qc5f0$3ad@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> bparker@uafhp..uark.edu (Brian Parker) writes:
> Hello world of Motorcyles lovers/soon-to-be-lovers!
>I have started a discussion list on the internet for people interested in
>talking Bikes! We discuss anything and everything. If you are interested in
>joining, drop me a line. Since it really isn't a 'list', what we do is if you
>have a post, you send it to me and I distribute it to everyone. C'mon...join
>and enjoy!
On second thought, maybe he didn't invent wreck.moto -
he's trying a round about way to figure out the DoD theme song.
One FAQ, coming right up!
Charlie Smith, DoD #0709, doh #0000000004, 1KSPT=22.85
o--------------------------------------------------------------o
There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
followed by the words "Daddy! Why am I locked outside?"
o--------------------------------------------------------------o
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6398 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Proton/Centaur?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
Lines: 15
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Well thank you dennis for your as usual highly detailed and informative
posting.
The question i have about the proton, is could it be handled at
one of KSC's spare pads, without major malfunction, or could it be
handled at kourou or Vandenberg?
Now if it uses storables, then how long would it take for the russians
to equip something at cape york?
If Proton were launched from a western site, how would it compare to the
T4/centaur? As i see it, it should lift very close to the T4.
pat
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6399 | From: guykuo@carson.u.washington.edu (Guy Kuo)
Subject: SI clock reports
Summary: Request for SI clock poll
Keywords: SI,clock,upgrade,oscillator,chip
Article-I.D.: shelley.1qokppINNree
Organization: University of Washington
Lines: 18
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
I am continuing to collect user results to produce a more comprehensive
report on IIsi clock oscillator upgrades. I you have attempted the modification
please drop me a note with details of your experience. The more reports
obtained, the more accurate the numbers I will generate.
If possible, please include the following:
1) Top speed achieved
2) System configuration at top Mhz setting
a) speed rating of the CPU (the last two digits printed on CPU #)
b) presence of additional heat sinks
c) Nubus & FPU cards used
d) floppy drive functionality on both 800 and 1.4 M disks
3) Damage incurred during modification
4) Damage due to higher speed use
5) Average length of time the CPU is on. (i.e. 8 hours a day)
6) Unusual other modifications to the usual procedure
Guy Kuo <guykuo@u.washington.edu>
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