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7500 | From: dgf1@ellis.uchicago.edu (david farley)
Subject: Re: Permanaent Swap File with DOS 6.0 dbldisk
Reply-To: dgf1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
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>
>Be that what it may, I would really suggest to everyone to take the
>opportunity to go to these Technical Workshops. They aren't actually
>incredibly in-depth, but you do get a lot of material about bugs and
>optimization straight from those in the know. Besides that they offer
>you HUGE discounts on software. If I remember correctly, you could pick
>up Word 2.0, Excel 4.0, or whatever their presentation program is for $130.
>That is the full blown version, not an upgrade or educational version. You
>could also pick up Microsoft Office for $500 or something like that. Myself
>I sprang for Word.
The value of these workshops aside, you ought to be able to buy full copies
of all this software through your campus bookstore or software distributor
at these rates. I'm not aware that the educational version of Word or Excel
is doped down in any way.
>
>Well, hope that was helpful to someone. And besides that I hope someone
>will go to a workshop and save a little money.
>
>And if anyone at Microsoft is reading this -- I really love your products.
>I need a job once I graduate also, can we work something out? ;-)
>
>Thanks,
>Brent Casavant
>bcasavan@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
>
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David Farley The University of Chicago Library
312 702-3426 1100 East 57th Street, JRL-210
dgf1@midway.uchicago.edu Chicago, Illinois 60637
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7501 | From: brant@seq.uncwil.edu (AT-Dreamer)
Subject: Re: Insane Gun-toting Wackos Unite!!!
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
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Anyone who worries about his own gun should not have one. If you carry
any pistol with a empty chamber and safety the chances of it going off
are about zero. Unless you sit it on top of a lite stove for a couple
of minutes or put it in a fire. :-)
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7502 | From: Wayne.Orwig@AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Wayne Orwig)
Subject: Re: CB750 C with flames out the exhaust!!!!---->>>
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Organization: NCR Corporation
X-Newsreader: FTPNuz (DOS) v1.0
In Article <C5quw0.Btq@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> "mikeh@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Hollyman)" says:
> Hi, I have an 82 CB750 Custom that I just replaced the cylinder head gasket
> on. Now when I put it back together again, it wouldn't idle at all. It was
> only running on 2-3 cylinders and it would backfire and spit flames out the
> exhaust on the right side. The exhaust is 4-2 MAC. I bought new plugs
> today and it runs very rough and still won't idle. I am quite sure the fine
> tune knobs on the carbs are messed up. I checked the timing, it was fine, so
> I advanced it a little and that didn't help.
>
> I assume the carbs need to be synched. Can I buy a kit and do this myself?
> If so, what kit is the best for the price.
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Mike Hollyman
>
It sounds like you got the cam timing off..........
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7503 | From: royc@rbdc.wsnc.org (Roy Crabtree)
Subject: Re: A Message for you Mr. President: How do you know what happened?
Organization: Red Barn Data Center
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In article <1qvv7u$kc1@morrow.stanford.edu> salem@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bruce Salem) writes:
...
> I think that the consensus will become that FBI/ATF muffed it,
>not merely because they walked into an ambush on Feb 28, and Koresh
>got his prophesy today, against their stated intentions, but because
>they played right into polarizing the situation and not diffusing
>it.
>
> Koresh had set up all the conditions of a classic cult
>confrontation and had stated publically what the outcome would become.
Before or after his kids were shot?
>The government upped the ante and parcipitated the conclusion today.
>It does seem that the fires were set from within the compound by the
>members of the group and not caused by the CS gas or the way it was
>delivered. Let the subsequent investigation shed light on that. Suppose
Then why make the comment?
>that the government had used pyrotechnics and started the fire. The
>Dividians still had the decision to stay or leave. They never intended
As did the Jews against the Nazis in WW II: do what I say or die.
>to leave.
>
>>The building burns, almost everyone dies. It probably doesn't bother
>>you much, but it bothers many other people.....most of whom dont believe
>>particularly in Koresh or his message.
ALl humans, I hope.
>
> Yes, the finger pointing has begun.
>
>> Four ATF agents and 90 branch Davidians are now dead because of
>>crazy tactics on the part of the ATF and FBI.
>
> Yeah, they blew it. They were being too "rational" in a
>situation that was not your ordianry criminal game. They haven't learned
>that much from Jonestown, or The Move House, or the SLA shootout.
Or perhaps they have: kill first, blame the dead ones,
destroy all the evidence.
>
royc
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7504 | From: victor@hpfrcu03.FRance.hp.COM (Victor GATTEGNO FRENCH CRC)
Subject: Re: High order bit of a character in xterm .
Organization: The Internet
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To: kavitsky@hsi.com
Cc: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
>
> Does anyone know why the high order bit is being filtered and what
> I can do to make sure that the entire 8bits make it through to
> the final application? Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
1. You need these resources :
XTerm*EightBitInput: true
XTerm*EightBitOutput: true
2. In the shell you need to do :
stty cs8 -istrip
Good luck .
Victor .
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7505 | From: jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Good Grief! (was Re: Candida Albicans: what is it?)
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
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In article <noringC5u638.Bvy@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>In article dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>>In article noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>
>Good grief again.
>
>Why the anger? I must have really touched a raw nerve.
>
>Let's see: I had symptoms that resisted all other treatments. Sporanox
>totally alleviated them within one week. Hmmm, I must be psychotic. Yesss!
>That's it - my illness was all in my mind. Thanks Steve for your correct
>diagnosis - you must have a lot of experience being out there in trenches,
>treating hundreds of patients a week. Thank you. I'm forever in your
>debt.
>
>Jon
>
>(oops, gotta run, the men in white coats are ready to take me away, haha,
>to the happy home, where I can go twiddle my thumbs, basket weave, and
>moan about my sinuses.)
Ever heard of something called the placebo effect? I think Dyer is
reacting because it looks to be yet another case of the same old
quackery over and over again.
It true that current medical knowledge is limited, but do you realize
just HOW MANY quacks exist eager to suck your $$$$. It's playing the
lottery at best.
If the results you got were so clear and obvious, would you mind
trying a little experiment to see if it is true? It would be quite
simple. Have sugar pills and have real pills. Take one set for one
week and the other set for another week without knowing which ones are
the real pills. Then at the end of the 2 weeks compare the results.
Let's say you're wife would know which are the real ones. If what you
are experiencing is true there should be a marked difference between
each week.
john
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"To you Baldrick, the Renaissance was just /\ __ \ /\ ___\ /\ \/\ \
something that happened to other people, \ \ \/\ \\ \___ \\ \ \_\ \
wasn't it?" - The Black Adder \ \_____\\/\_____\\ \_____\
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7506 | From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Orbital RepairStation
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
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In article <C5MtyJ.12q@well.sf.ca.us> collins@well.sf.ca.us (Steve Collins) writes:
>The difficulties of a high Isp OTV include...
>If you go solar, you have to replace the arrays every trip, with
>current technology.
You're assuming that "go solar" = "photovoltaic". Solar dynamic power
(turbo-alternators) doesn't have this problem. It also has rather less
air drag due to its higher efficiency, which is a non-trivial win for big
solar plants at low altitude.
Now, you might have to replace the *rest* of the electronics fairly often,
unless you invest substantial amounts of mass in shielding.
>Nuclear power sources are strongly restricted
>by international treaty.
References? Such treaties have been *proposed*, but as far as I know,
none of them has ever been negotiated or signed.
--
All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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7507 | From: misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Yoda)
Subject: Re: Booting from B drive
Organization: Kansas State University
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NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu (David Weisberger) writes:
>I have a 5 1/4" drive as drive A. How can I make the system boot from
>my 3 1/2" B drive? (Optimally, the computer would be able to boot
>from either A or B, checking them in order for a bootable disk. But
>if I have to switch cables around and simply switch the drives so that
>it can't boot 5 1/4" disks, that's OK. Also, boot_b won't do the trick
>for me.)
>Thanks,
> Davebo
You can try to get into the setup byt pressing CTRL-ALT-INS or
CTRL-ALT-PrintScreen on most PC's. That should give you an option
to set regarding the drives to boot from.
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7508 | From: dstock@hpqmoca.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton)
Subject: Re: Krillean Photography
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VINCI (filipe@vxcrna.cern.ch) wrote:
: How about Kirlian imaging ? I believe the FAQ for sci.skeptics (sp?)
: has a nice write-up on this. They would certainly be most supportive
: on helping you to build such a device and connect to a 120Kvolt
: supply so that you can take a serious look at your "aura"... :-)
: Filipe Santos
: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics
: Switzerland
This has to be THE only, generally accepted, method of using common
physics lab equipment to find certain answers to all the questions about
afterlifes, heavens, hells, purgatory, gods etc. Krillean photography
will probably be ignored as insignificant compared to these larger
eternal verities. Publishing your results could be a bit of a problem,
though.
Cheers
David
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7509 | From: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney)
Subject: Re: Boom! Whoosh......
Organization: Computer Aided Design Lab, U. of Maryland College Park
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NNTP-Posting-Host: queen.eng.umd.edu
In article <C5ut0z.CtG@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>In article <1r46ofINNdku@gap.caltech.edu> palmer@cco.caltech.edu (David M. Palmer) writes:
>>>orbiting billboard...
>>
>>I would just like to point out that it is much easier to place an
>>object at orbital altitude than it is to place it with orbital
>>velocity. For a target 300 km above the surface of Earth,
>>you need a delta-v of 2.5 km/s.
>Unfortunately, if you launch this from the US (or are a US citizen),
>you will need a launch permit from the Office of Commercial Space
>Transportation, and I think it may be difficult to get a permit for
>an antisatellite weapon... :-)
Well Henry, we are often reminded how CANADA is not a part of the United States
(yet). You could have quite a commercial A-SAT, er sky-cleaning service going
in a few years.
"Toronto SkySweepers: Clear skies in 48 hours, or your money back."
Discount rates available for astro-researchers.
Software engineering? That's like military intelligence, isn't it?
-- > SYSMGR@CADLAB.ENG.UMD.EDU < --
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7510 | From: New Liberation News Service <nlns@igc.apc.org>
Subject: NLNS: Fascism with a Friendly Face
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1483600108:000:9540
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From: New Liberation News Service <nlns>
Subject: NLNS: Fascism with a Friendly Face
/* Written 8:33 pm Apr 14, 1993 by nlns@igc.apc.org in igc:nlns.news */
/* ---------- "NLNS Packet 3.11 *** 4-14-93" ---------- */
Fascism with a Friendly Face: Does Rush Limbaugh Remind You of
Anyone?
Daevid Bornhuetter-Machen, The Madison Edge
"The main difference between Adolf Hitler and Rush Limbaugh is that
Hitler was original and showed initiative."
--Mort Sahl on The Tom Snyder Radio Show, ABC Radio Network,
October 27, 1992.
(NLNS)--Believe it or not, I was planning this comparative review of
Mein Kampf and Limbaugh's transcribed rant, The Way Things Ought to
Be before Sahl issued his comparative review. As usual, Sahl's was
independent and sharp as a scalpel.
My effort can only dream of comparing favorably to Mort's. At
least it has a fairly popular orginating premise; everyone I'd mention the
idea to thought it was either divinely inspired or at least past due for
delivery.
Those reactions are based on parallels that should be obvious to the
most peripheral observer of the Acts of those False Prophets. Both are
noted for their galvanizing oratorical skills, which they both used with
passion to generate a political cult of massive numerical proportions (in
fact, Limbaugh claims to have an audience of just over 12 million, almost
identical to the number of votes cast for Hitler in the April 1932 German
election). Both used a myopic social perspective to build the cult, and
enthusiastically amputated facts from the record to fabricate their
ideological quilt.
The last point is glaringly documented by passages in the opening
pages of both books. Hitler's example is when, on page 5, he claims the
German nationalist terrorist Leo Schlageter (he bombed part of a railway
line between Dusseldorf and Duisburg, being caught in the act, in 1923)
was "betrayed to France by a representative of his government" when
there has never been any factual foundation for such a statement.
In fact, the governments of both the Reich and Prussia, as well as
the Vatican, actively intervened to save him from execution, and almost
succeeded. Limbaugh follows suit by making the hysterically sarcastic
claim in his introduction that "in a school or during a commencement
ceremony or many other public places... God is unconstitutional." Of
course, it's not God but the official imposition of particular concepts of
God against an individual's will that's unconstitutional. But Limbaugh is
too gleeful in his talent for distortion to want you to know that.
Of course, one would assume that, by comparing the two books,
my main point would be that The Way Things Ought to Be is the modern
American Mein Kampf. Not really. At the time of the first German version
of Mein Kampf, Hitler was just four months out of prison (June, 1925),
and trying to reorganize the Nazis. He used the book to build his dozen
million followers. Limbaugh, on the other hand, came up with his book
after building his dozen million. Twelve million went a longer way in
Weimar Germany that it does in the Republicrat United States.
Thus, the more accurate parallels would be that Limbaugh's daily
three-hour radio show is the American Mein Kampf, the primary
propoganda tool used to pump up the angry volume; and that The Way
Things Ought to Be is actually the American Triumph of the Will, a
translation of the same fascist message into a different medium. Also, the
printed word was the more important medium in Weimar Germany, since
radio was still being thought of by impoverished Germans as a medium of
luxury in 1925. Today, on the other hand, Americans are more likely to
spend a few seconds to tune a radio dial at no monetary charge than drop
$22 for 304 pages of transcripts of the same words.
But, as Mort Sahl also observed on the radio the other night, some
cloutmeister of the radical right wants Limbaugh to be a focal point of
their propoganda. (And remember, Sahl is an Al Haig conservative these
days.)
Mort might not know exactly who Rush's equivalent of Rodolf
Hess is (the book itself suggests Ed McLaughlin, the former president of
ABC radio and now Limbaugh's partner in EFM Media, the radio
program's production company). But Mort himself is a veteran of the talk
show, having hosted them in New York, Washington and Los Angeles. He
knows what evil lurks in the hearts of major market media men. He knows
that Limbaugh could not have collected his audience had not the
opportunity been placed on a silver platter and handed to him. Limbaugh
earns his money just as honestly as Al Capone did; it's almost worthy of a
RICO indictment.
On questions of social issues, there is an overabundance of
material in the Limbaugh book that seems to echo Hitler's venom. For
example:
On Their Own Qualifications to Control Society
Hitler: "Out of the host of sometimes millions of people, who
individually more or less clearly and distinctly guess the truth, partly
perhaps understand it, one man [author's emphasis] must step forward in
order to form, with apodeictic force, out of the wavering world of
imagination of the great masses, granite principles, and to take up the fight
for their sole correctness, until out of the playing waves of a free world of
thought a brazen rock of uniform combination of form and will arises"
(page 577).
Limbaugh: "Who needs the media when they've got me? ... The
show is devoted exclusively to what I think ... [the phrase "with half my
brain tied behind my back to make it even"] denotes the egress of mental
aptitude I require to engage and demolish liberals and others who disagree
with me ... It might take four or five years, but I'm convinced The Media
will slowly and reluctantly come around to my way of thinking, kicking
and screaming all the way." (pages 266, 21, 299 and 273, respectively.)
On Religion as the Basis of a Nation
Hitler: "In this world human culture and civilization are
inseperably bound up with the existence of the Aryan. His dying-off or his
decline would again lower upon this earth the dark veils of a time without
culture ... He who dares to lay hand upon the highest image of the Lord
sins against the benevolent Creator of this miracle and helps in the
expulsion from Paradise." (Page 581.)
Limbaugh: "America was founded as a Judeo-Christian country ...
But our intellectual and political elites are often either hostile or
ambivalent toward religion ... People for whom belief in God is at best a
charming superstition have managed to ban prayer from the public schools
for the last thirty years. Is it only a coincidence that the quality of
American education has declined ever since?" (pages 274-5.)
On Popular Culture as a Reason for Social Collapse
Hitler: "The fight against the poisoning of the soul has to set in ...
One has only to look at the menus of our movie houses, vaudevilles and
theatres; and one can hardly deny that this is not the right kind of food ...
Theatre, art, literature, movies, the press, billposters and window displays
must be cleaned of the symptoms of a rotting world and put into the
service of a moral idea of State and culture." (pages 346 and 348.)
Limbaugh: "Today, Hollywood is in trouble. The reason [is] that
Hollywood has forgotten who its audience is ... They make fun of people
who believe in God. They ridicule the traditional family, heterosexuality
and monagamy. They disparage American heroes." (page 254.)
On the News Meida
Hitler: "The activity of the so-called liberal press was the work of
gravediggers for the German people and the German Reich. One can pass
by in silence the Marxist papers of lies ... it's task is only to break the
people's folkish and national spine, in order to make it ripe for the yoke of
slavery of international capital and its masters, the Jews." (Page 331.)
Limbaugh: "Elements of The Media have jumped on the
bandwagon of leftist causes. The cynical journalist of the past has been
replaced in many cases by an enthusiastic cheerleader for causes ... During
the Gulf war, CNN correspondent Bernard Shaw [said] CNN is a global
network. We can't take sides. Cant take sides? --- --- ---! ... If they don't
realize that their freedom lies in the United States of America and that
therefore they should defend this nation, they are hopelessly misguided
and, may I suggest, flirting with megalomania." (pages 270 and 268.)
* * *
To continue these comparative excerpts is certainly possible, but
ultimately too depressing to take in one reading.
After putting these books down, there is one undeniable fact that
haunts me. In the 1920s, Adolf Hitler fed depressed and frightened
Germans the opiate of hatred of those around them; in turn, it allowed
Germans to hand their collective national power to the Nazis. In the 1990s,
Rush Limbaugh is doing the very same thing: distributing hatred to
depressed and frightened Americans; in turn, it is helping the American
radical right to maintain its power base as the 12-year nightmare of the
Reagan-Bush era comes to an end, hoping to rebuild it into their hopes for
The Fascist States of America.
And if Limbaugh is not as repellant a Hitler, it is only because the
radical right utilizes Limbaugh as its own gateway opiate. One can only
wonder what the ultimate drug is they plan to hook America on.
The Madison Edge can be reached at PO Box 845, Madison, WI 53701-
0845; (608) 255-4460.
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7511 | From: mmccolli@comanche.ess.harris.com (Mike McCollister)
Subject: Faster OAK VGA drivers???
Nntp-Posting-Host: su100l.ess.harris.com
Reply-To: mmccolli@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division
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I'm using an OAK based VGA card on my computer (640x480x256). I've
downloaded the driver from ftp.cica.indiana.edu and I've had good luck
with it. However, does anyone know if a faster driver is available for
this card?
Thanks,
Mike
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7512 | From: ianhogg@milli.cs.umn.edu (Ian J. Hogg)
Subject: Re: How do I find my AppContext?
Keywords: Context, Xt, motif, application
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Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
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In article <1qvatv$9ic@pandora.sdsu.edu> masc0442@ucsnews.sdsu.edu (Todd Greene) writes:
>
>
>Is there an Xt call to give me my application context?
>I am fixing up an X/Motif program, and am trying to use XtAppAddTimeOut,
>whose first argument is the app_context. What call can I use
>to give me this value?
>
You can get the ApplicationContext associated with a widget by calling
XtWidgetToApplicationContext.
--
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Ian Hogg ianhogg@cs.umn.edu
(612) 424-6332
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7513 | From: steveh@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Steve Howell)
Subject: Re: Quadra 700 Sound
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
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The Quadra 700 goes thru extensive initalize routines of its hardware,
read's PRAM, obtains all info from last session including the volume
setting, and then executes the sound procedure for the startup sound, and
wait's on the SCSI controller to respond to the boot up code.
If the DRAM produces an error, or a registers cannot be read from a device,
or the device corrupts that address/data or control paths, then if it is
possible, the firmware branchs to another sound routine that produces the
'sad mac' sound.
This is a general breifing of the start up procedure of a typical mac.
If you cannot control the volume of the quadra, even at boot up, then i feel
there is something incorrect with the logic board.
My Quadra 700 does not show the problems you are having.
Steve H
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7514 | From: hbloom@moose.uvm.edu (*Heather*)
Subject: re: what are the problems with nutrasweet (aspartame)
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
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Nutrasweet is a synthetic sweetener a couple thousand times sweeter than
sugar. Some people are concerned about the chemicals that the body produces
when it degrades nutrasweet. It is thought to form formaldehyde and known to
for methanol in the degredation pathway that the body uses to eliminate
substances. The real issue is whether the levels of methanol and formaldehyde
produced are high enough to cause significant damage, as both are toxic to
living cells. All I can say is that I will not consume it.
Phenylalanine is
nothing for you to worry about. It is an amino acid, and everyone uses small
quantities of it for protein synthesis in the body. Some people have a disease
known as phenylketoneurea, and they are missing the enzyme necessary to
degrade this compound and eliminate it from the body. For them, it will
accumulate in the body, and in high levels this is toxic to growing nerve
cells. Therefore, it is Only a major problem in young children (until around
age 10 or so) or women who are pregnant and have this disorder. It used to
be a leading cause of brain damage in infants, but now it can be easily
detected at birth, and then one must simply avoid comsumption of phenylalanine
as a child, or when pregnant.
-heather
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7515 | From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Subject: Re: David Polie's future
Organization: UB
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In article <92821@hydra.gatech.EDU> gtd597a@prism.gatech.EDU (Hrivnak) writes:
>In article <gfmoD2e00iV1892owC@andrew.cmu.edu> gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gary James Patalsky) writes:
>>Bad news for the Patrick division next year. Caps GM David Polie is
>>reportedly trying to get a front office job with the NHL. I can't
>>believe Polie has not been fired despite 10 years of mediocrity.
>
> YES! YES! THE IDIOT'S GONE! THE IDIOT'S GONE!!!!!!! I wish
>this happened before he traded Hrivnak. Anyway, THE IDIOT'S GONE!!!
>
He's not gone yet. The position opening is down to Polie and the
Sabres' GM Gerry Meehan. I think I'd like to see Meehan gone...
--
Valerie Hammerl "Some days I have to remind him he's not
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu Mario Lemieux." Herb Brooks on Claude
acscvjh@ubms.cc.buffalo.edu Lemieux, top scorer for the Devils, but
v085pwwpz@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu known for taking dumb penalties.
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7516 | From: donc@microsoft.com (Don Corbitt)
Subject: Re: Christian Owned Organization list
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
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In article <1993Apr16.232149.22105@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu wrote:
> Sorry, but Mormons aren't generally considered to be Christians.
> >--
> >=kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu | B(0-4) c- d- e++ f- g++ k(+) m r(-) s++(+) t | TSAKC=
> >=My thoughts, my posts, my ideas, my responsibility, my beer, my pizza. OK???=
> >="Do you have some pumps and a purse in this shade? A perfume that whispers, =
> >='please come back to me'? I'm looking for something in Green."-Laurie Morgan=
Sorry, but it doesn't matter what _you_ think, I am a Christian, who happens to
belong to the LDS Church. [The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints].
I don't usually read t.r.m. It is truly informative to stop by, and see that there
are still people in the world like those that forced my ancestors into the deserts
of Utah, and then out of the country entirely. (My grandmother was born in Mexico,
where her family had moved to escape religious persecution in the US). I'm willing
to admit that members of other churches are Christians, if they believe in Christ and
(try to) follow his teachings, even though they have different interpretations of
the bible. And yet these other churches often go out of their way to define whether
or not I am considered to be Christian. Could someone mail me a set of rules/beliefs
that must be followed to be a Christian? Does this set of rules exclude other large
bodies of believers?
I know, this is a waste of everyone's time, this has probably been discussed N times,
etc. I guess I'm more sensitive to this 'demonization' after what went on in Texas.
--
Don Corbitt, donc@microsoft.com
Mail flames, post apologies. Support short .sigs, three lines max.
(I consider this a rebuttal, not a flame...)
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7517 | From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Biblical Backing of Koresh's 3-02 Tape (Cites enclosed)
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In article <1993Apr21.093914.1@woods.ulowell.edu> cotera@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>In article <1r17j9$5ie@sbctri.sbc.com>, netd@susie.sbc.com () writes:
>> In article <20APR199301460499@utarlg.uta.edu> b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (stephen) writes:
>>>For those who think David Koresh didn't have a solid structure,
>>>or sound Biblical backing for his hour long tape broadcast,
>>
>> I don't think anyone really cares about the solid structure of his
>> sermon. It's the deaths he's responsible for that concern most people.
>
>I assume you have evidence that he was responsible for the deaths?
>
>> Koresh was a nut, okay?
>
>Again, I'd like to see some evidence.
Nut or not, he was clearly a liar. He said he would surrender after
local radio stations broadcast his message, but he didn't. Then he
said he would surrender after Passover, but he didn't.
None of which excuses the gross incompetence and disregard for the
safety of the children displayed by the feds. As someone else
pointed out, if it had been Chelsea Clinton in there you would
probably have seen more restraint.
---peter
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7518 | From: robert@pest (Robert Merlicek)
Subject: ati GUP and Vpic
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Could someone tell me if the ATI graphic ultra pro is supported in a version
of vpic now.
If so where is it located.
thanks
Robert
email replies would be appreciated :-)
--
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= Robert Merlicek CBR600 from Hell =
= robert@ctpm.uq.oz.au Engage Ludicrous Speed =
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7519 | From: baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari)
Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladder
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
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g92m3062@alpha.ru.ac.za (Brad Meier) writes:
> Hi, I'm looking for a circuit, that is called a "Jacob's Ladder".
> This little box is usually seen in sci-fi movies. It consists of
> two curves of wire protruding into the air, with little blue sparks
> starting at their base (where the two wires are closer to each other),
> moving up the wires to the top, and ending in a small crackling noise.
>
> Could anyone supply me with the schematic for the innards of this box?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Mike
>
> (Please reply by email to g90k3853@alpha.ru.ac.za)
>
> --
> | / | | ~|~ /~~\ | | ~|~ /~~\ |~~\ /~~\ The KnightOrc
> |/ |\ | | | __ |__| | | | |__/ | g92m3062@hippo.ru.ac.za
> |\ | \| | | | | | | | | | | | "When it's over I'll go home,
> | \ | | _|_ \__/ | | | \__/ | | \__/ until then, I stay!" - Me
I'd like any accumulated information on this as well please.
Thanks.
_________________________________________
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| | | |
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| o o | | |
| ^ | | baden@sys6626.bison.ca |
| {-} | | baden@inqmind.bison.ca |
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7520 | From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: Partnership for an America Free Drug
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res@colnet.cmhnet.org (Rob Stampfli) writes:
>
>Wouldn't a a second monitor of similar type scrolling gibberish and adjacent
>to the one being used provide reasonable resistance to tempest attacks?
It would be in a different location, so a directional antenna could
probably lock in on just the one monitor. Failing that, a phased array
could likely seperate the signals. Admittedly, this is expensive, but
so is all the rest of this stuff anyway.
--
Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com
--
Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
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7521 | From: rruther@watts.tansu.com.au (Ralf Rutherford)
Subject: Re: Workgroup Questions (conven. ram and licensing)
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In article 0rA6ABh107h@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca, aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Alan Walford) writes:
>I would be very appreciative if someone would answer a few
>questions about Windows for Workgroups.
>
>I currently have Novell Netware Lite which does not work with
>Windows very well and is a conventional memory hog (ver. 1.1).
>I am considering moving all our machines to W4WG.
>
>Q1: How much conventional ram does W4WG use over and above the
> driver for the network card?
>
about 2.5Kbyte without Novell 3.11 support.
>Q2: If I have a Novell NE2000 card, are the LSL and IPX drivers
> still needed?
>
No.
>Q3: Does W4WG do a license check over the network to ensure each
> machine is running its own licenced copy of W4WG? (Note: I do
> not want to break the license agreement and I will buy a copy
> of W4WG for each of our machines, it is just that I would like
> to try it out first to see if it meets our needs. Returning one
> opened copy is much easier than returning N opened copies.)
>
No.
>Q4: If you buy the upgrade to Windows 3.1 for W4WG does it replace
> all of Win 3.1 as you install it or does it depend on current
> Win 3.1 files?
>
Nearly all.
>Q5: If I install Windows NT on my server when it comes out, will I have
> any troubles with the W4WG machines?
>
We run mixed WNT beta and W4WG, no problem apart from printer sharing( beta problem)
>When I started this message, I was going to ask only 2 questions but I got carried
>away. I'll stop now ;-).
>
We had problems with mouse drivers using W4WG where Windows 3.1 didn't, seems to be
more critical about it. It was actualy a port problem with the network card running on 0x2e0, we changed it to 0x300, now everything is allright, I think it has to do with the AMI Bios as well.
>I look forward to your replies.
>
>Al
>
>--
>Alan Walford Eos Systems Inc., Vancouver,B.C., Canada Tel: 604-734-8655
>aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca OR ...uunet!wimsey.bc.ca!eosvcr!aew
---
Ralf Rutherford Telecom Aust | MHSnet: rruther@cssc-melb.tansu.com.au
Network Services | Snail: 700 Blackburn Rd, Clayton Vic 3168
Customised Software Solutions | Australia
Center Melbourne | Phone: +61 3 253 8910 FAX: +61 3 265 6669
|
7522 | From: nagel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Kurt Nagel)
Subject: Re: AMI Pro 3.0 and equation mode
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nagel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Kurt Nagel) writes:
>Hi,
> I'm having a problem with AMIPro when writing equations. If the
>equation extends past a certain point on a line, the whole thing disappears.
>If I then try to delete the equation or cursor beyond the equation, AMI
>goes nuts. The line counter at the bottom of the screen increments
>repeatedly and the only way out is to CTRL-ATL-DEL. If I have been
>unfortunate enough to save a document with one of these screwed up
>equations, the document is basically trashed. (although I have been
>able to fix them by going into an ascii editor and deleteing large
>chunks of the document)
> Has anyone else experienced this? Does Lotus know about it
>and or have a patch???????.
>Thanks in advance,
>Kurt
>nagel@fido.colorado.edu
I contacted Lotus about this problem today. It has been reported previously
and there is a fix. Apparantly the problem only occurs when TAB characters
are used immediately preceding the equation frame. The work around when
equations are expected to touch the right margin is to delete at least one
preceding TAB and use SPACE to align the frame (or use set frame where
placed w/no text wrap around). Unforutnately, once the page run-on has
occured you are hosed. So the moral of the story is use only SPACE characters
to align equation frames.
Hope this helps the rest of you who have already contacted me with this
problem.
Kurt
nagel@fido.colorado.edu
|
7523 | From: mps1@cec1.wustl.edu (Mihir Pramod Shah)
Subject: Re: Saturn performance(was Re: saturn -- puzzled by its pricing
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In article <4fjDcfu00iV2I9Kap_@andrew.cmu.edu> "Jason M. Roth" <jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>I can't imagine any Civic or Saturn owners flex'n there egos in stop light
>>races. It generates as much excitement as two nerds challenging each other
>>in a game of one-on-one basketball!!
>
>The SL2 does 0-60 in about 8.5; note that this is closer to a 968 than
>to a Paseo or Storm (pseudo-sporty cars). That's a ridiculous
>comparison, I know, but the point is that Saturns (and high-end Civics,
>for that matter) accelerate just fine, in fact better than most
>unimproved "muscle" cars of the 60s; 300 hp is great, but tied to 2
>tons, it just doesn't go that quick. Saturns, on the other hand, use 125
>hp tied to 2400 lbs with some short gearing to move very quickly off the
>line. Anyway....
>
>
>
While your 0-60 time is consistent with most car magazines and reports, I saw
the PBS MotorWeek show clock a 5-speed SL2 at 7.9 seconds. I'm sure that most
SL2 owners will be VERY lucky to get this speed, but 7.9 seconds is still
astonishingly fast for a small 4-door. A new Civic EX runs about 8.2 seconds
0-60, if I'm not mistaken. Most cars in this class are lucky to be in the
9-second range.
Mihir Shah
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7524 | From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Environmentalism and paganism
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
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I would like to see Christians devote a bit less effort to _bashing_
paganism and more to figuring out how to present the Gospel to pagans.
Christ is the answer; the pagans have a lot of the right questions.
Unlike materialists, who deny the need for any spirituality.
--
:- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : *****
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *********
:- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * *
:- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><
|
7525 | From: kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller)
Subject: Re: Goalie masks
Article-I.D.: netnews.120666
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Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.sas.upenn.edu
My vote goes to John Vanbiesbrouck. His mask has a skyline of New York
City, and on the sides there are a bunch of bees (Beezer). It looks
really sharp.
--
Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!!
kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
"When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."
|
7526 | From: Christine Hogan <ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Strange Experience
Organization: University Libraries - Library Automatio, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Hi
I t was very nice out yesterday in the 'burgh, so i rode my bike
to my gynecologist appointment. When he came in to do the exam,
he noticed my helmet sitting on a chair. He got excited and picked it up
and started asking all sorts of questions about bikes and dealers in the
area and the MSF course. Apparently he rode a friends 125 for a
while years ago and recently the bug to ride caught him again.
Needless to say, I had never before talked about bikes so much in
such a position, if ya know what I mean :->
|Chris Hogan ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu |CB-1|
| 1127 |
| Soft as the massacre of Suns |
| By Evening's Sabres slain |
| emily dickinson |
|
7527 | From: dgf1@quads.uchicago.edu (Dr. Eldon Tyrell)
Subject: Re: So what is the fastest Windows video c
Reply-To: dgf1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
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In article <1993Apr17.054600.24917@exu.ericsson.se> ebuhcb@ebu.ericsson.se writes:
>In article 16APR199309101156@trentu.ca, ayounes@trentu.ca (Amro Younes, Trent University, C.C. #314, Peterborough, ON, Canada K9J 7B8. (705) 749-0391) writes:
>>I have the ATI GRAPHICS ULTRA PRO EISA version. I must admit it has
>>received bad press but that was due to the faulty drivers it had.
>
>PC Magazine seems to be impressed with the ATI card in their most recent
>reviews. In the April 13th issue they rate the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
>(EISA version) as their "Editor's Choice". They noted that the drivers
>had improved since they tested the ISA version in January...
> ...Cuyler
Yeah - they also gave it their "Editor's Choice" in the run-down of
graphics accelerators they tested in the previous issue, which is why
I bought (and then returned) mine. The only conclusion I can come up with
is that PC Magazine has wildly different ways on determining the worthiness
of a video card than I do.
--
David Farley The University of Chicago Library
312 702-3426 1100 East 57th Street, JRL-210
dgf1@midway.uchicago.edu Chicago, Illinois 60637
|
7528 | From: Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Zane!!Rescue us from Simmons!!
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So far Simmons looks like a total idiot.
1) Zane Smith should learn how to "switchpitch" and return from the DL. I
would rather have Zane Smith pitch right handed than have Moeller pitch at all.
2) I am sure Simmons was ready to say I told you so after Otto had an
impressive win last week. NOw Otto's latest debacle has restored Simmon's
reputation. Now he looks like he is back in his '92 form when he had the
AL's highest ERA among starters. Four our sake(not Ted's sake), I hope he
pitches with a 3.5 ERA for the rest of the season. Yeah, right.
3) Tomlin and Merced are a bit disappointing. They are still doing decently.
BUt considering the considerable amount of talent and maturity they have
shown their first seasons, they seem to have actually gotten a little
bit worse. Tomlin was almost unhittable his rookie year against lefty batters.
Merced had a very good OBA his rookie year. He showed a lot of concentration at
the plate in his rookie year.
4) Walk: Well, he seems to be on the losing end tonight. BUt I still think that
Walk desrved his contract.
5) Leyland should accept a part of the blame for the LaValliere situation. I
can't understand his and management's fear of losing Tom Prince through
waivers. Even if they do, what's the use. He is aright hander like Slaught.
Not a very smart platoon. Also, I am blaming Leyland in this case, since he is hcurrently convinced that LaVAlliere is through, while giving him
way too much time last year in the regular season AND the playoffs(SLaught
should have played in all 7 games; he has a good average against right handed
pitching). Didn't Leyland and Simmons forsee this last year, and attempt to
trade LaValliere last year itself? Any fool could tell them LaVAlliere
wasn't very fit last year.
6) Dennis MOeller is SCARY!!!
7) Candeleria: Well, he is not going to have such a high ERA at the end of the
season. Maybe it will be in 3-4 range. BUt $1 million plus? Come on. Other
than the customary home run giving stage Patterson goes through for a few weeks,
Patterson has served the PIrates very well each year. So far, he seems to have
pitched well for the Rangers. I think the PIrates should have spent the money
on Patterson in stead.
8) The Rookie batters: Well, Young has surprised me a bit with his instant impact. Other than that, their excellent performance hasn't been too much of a surprise. I think we should thank Doughty for that.
9) Rookie Pitchers: Worse than expected, especially Cooke.
10) Slaught: How come he wasn't given a contract extension last year? NOw his
value has increased immensely.
11) Lonnie Smith!! Well, Eric Davis was signed for a comparable amount.
Let's see. Eric can hit better. He can run better. He can field better.
Now why didnt the PIrates go after Eric Davis. An injured Davis is better
than a healthy Lonnie Smith. Even if Lonnnie Smith gets some big hits this year,he won't be an asset. He has looked terrible on the bases and in the field.
12) Management: BIG BIG ZERO. Sauer has yet to make a forceful agreement
in favor of revenue sharing. He seems more concerned about pleasing that
idiot Danforth by preparing the team for a move to Tampa Bay.
13) Alex Cole fiasco. The PIrates infield and CF positions look good. The
RF and LF would have looked good if we could have gotten Cole to replace
two of the four outfielders. Eric Davis, Van Slyke and Cole would have made a
very respectable outfield. Even without Eric Davis, thye PIrates would have
a respectable outfield with Cole, SVan Slyke, and Merced(I think he should hit
left handed against lefts in stead of switch hitting). Simmons did have options
for the outfield. Ironically, the biggest accomplishment of Simmon's tenure was
getting Alex Cole really cheap. Too bad.
14) Compensatory draft picks for Bonds: Forget it. The pirates can rant and rave.
they will not get those picks. As of now, the issue is still being appealed.
Now, if this doesnt convince anyone that Simmons and Sauer are idiots,
nothing else will.
On a final note. Tim Wakefield won't be as awful as he was in his last 2
starts. BUt don't count on him pitching like last year for the rest of
the season. Also, if the Pirates are in contention towards rthe end of the
season, they will miss Redus's clutch hitting and his speed(he has peaked
in the second half of the last 2 seasons)>
-Pravin Ratnam
|
7529 | From: atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Cardinal Ximenez)
Subject: Re: Being right about messiahs
Organization: National Association for the Disorganized
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Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca (Desiree Bradley) writes:
>And, from my meagre knowledge of the Bible, it seems that Christians have
>been hard on the Jews of Christ's day for being cautious about accepting
>somebody that their religious authorities didn't accept as the Messiah.
This is a good point. Christ was hardly the only person who claimed to be
the Messiah--in fact, a number of "Messiahs" were active in the area from the
time of the Roman conquest to after the fall of Masada.
Many of the statements made by the apostles--especially their repeated
attempts to give Jesus a sword (give him military power) point to the fact that
they didn't realize the true nature of his reign until after the fact. Many of
the statements in the Bible can be seen as being oriented toward explaining
this new definition of "Messiah" to the Jews who were being preached to.
Alan Terlep "...and the scorpion says, 'it's
Oakland University, Rochester, MI in my nature.'"
atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu
|
7530 | From: gt0869a@prism.gatech.EDU (WATERS,CLYDE GORDON)
Subject: Re: History question
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Lines: 23
In article <2775@snap> paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson) writes:
>This is vague, so I am posting it in case anyone else knows more.
>
>I recall reading of a phonograph which used mechanical amplification.
>Compressed air was squirted out of a valve which was controlled by the
>pickup. The result was noisy and distinctly lo-fi, but much louder
NASA and related agencies apparently used this same principles to create
the loudest reported reproduced sound. They used an "analog" electrically
controlled valve to control the flow of air across a horn throat. If I
remember correctly it was called a "modulated air blast transducer". There
were reports of the thing being able to produce 106 dB @ 80 Hz @ 10 mile
distance, communicate directly with fighter pilots @ 5000 ft, etc.
Regards,
Gordon.
--
WATERS,CLYDE GORDON-BME '93-Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta Ga.
"Out of the mountain of despair, we can hew the stone of hope"- MLK Jr.
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt0869a
Internet: gt0869a@prism.gatech.edu
|
7531 | From: loos@cup.hp.com (Joe Loos)
Subject: Bonds vs. Maddux
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I've been following the Giants closely over the off-season -- newspapers,
notesgroup, etc -- but I had my first up close and personal last night at
the Stick.
After watching Giants hitters struggle last year, Barry's swing was
very impressive -- he's very quick and his swing seems effortless, even
compared to Clark (particularly Clark as of late).
It was interesting to see Bonds hit Maddux so well. I'm not sure if
Barry was after revenge against the Braves or what but he stroked
three very pretty hits (1b, 2b, hr) for 5 rbi's.
The Giants as a team are doing a lot of surprising things this year in
addition to Bonds. There has been some good pitching and some hitters
seem to be swinging much better. Clayton's defense has been superb.
McGee seems to like leading off this year. Manwaring is driving the ball.
So on & so forth.
I hope it continues...I think they need to continue well into June before
people are really sold that they are for real--particularly the pitching.
For myself, I think the fresh start of Magowan/Baker/etc has really wiped
out a lot of negatives from the last few years and will be a real factor
in helping them significantly improve over last year.
Joe Loos
loos@cup.hp.com
|
7532 | From: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Subject: HELPHELP Part2
Reply-To: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Lines: 52
Hello, I'm back..
I would first like to thank each and every person who sent me a response (be
it a positive or negative one). I read EVERY letter and thought about
each one!!
I got all sorts of responses, from "marry her" to "have nothing ever to
do with her again"
Through reading the Bible and through a lot of prayer, here is what I have
decided to do.
I sent her a letter today. First, i told her that if she was really serious
about moving away from home to another state that "I would do anything to
get you here in NC." I told her that I tried to find out if there were
any new stores planning to be built---but they wouldn't tell me.
About her marraige comment (I'm not gonna call it a proposal, cause
I still don't know if it was a total joke or not) I more or less said
that "Marry me?? Well, get transferred to NC first and then we'll talk :) :)"
Hopefully, what i said could be interpreted either way.
Needless to say, there has been a lot of praying over this...I
have done a lot of reading about marraige from the Bible. If
she was dead serious about getting married---I wouldn't do it
yet simply b/c she is not (as far as I know to this point) a Christian.
It just wouldn't work w/o God in the marraige as well. I figure
that if God wanrs this to go through--he's kept us in touch for 10
years now---he can handle one more. If God wants it to happen, it
will happen!
She will be in NC in June meetinf some relatives so I'll get to
see her...and I'll get a letter from her befoe then so I know
more of what to look forward to.
I guess all I can do now is wait and pray. I have decided not to tell
my folks until I'm totally sure what is going on.
I do ask that everyone that wrote me to please keep this situation
in your prayers..
Finally, I would like to thank EVERYONE who wrote in...
If you have anything else for me...I will be at this email address
for one week. Please tell me anyhting you want...I'm curious
how folks think about what i did.
Thanx
Chris
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7533 | From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr)
Subject: Re: Hell_2: Black Sabbath
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 8
In article <Apr.22.00.57.03.1993.2118@geneva.rutgers.edu> jprzybyl@skidmore.edu (jennifer przybylinski) writes:
>I may be wrong, but wasn't Jeff Fenholt part of Black Sabbath?
Yes, he was. He also played Jesus in "Jesus Christ Superstar" before
he became a Christian. He played in Black Sabbath right after he first
got saved, but then left it.
Link Hudson.
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7534 | From: jr0930@eve.albany.edu (REGAN JAMES P)
Subject: MACINTOSH-PLUS FOR SALE
Expires: 5/5/93
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Lines: 16
******************F O R S A L E C H E A P*********************
Macintosh-plus
+++++++++++++++
*includes:
2 - 3.5" drives( 1 external)
software: Word, Excel, Pascal, Intro package(Hypercard, Tour , etc)
Leaving school in May, must sell!!!!!!
A steal at $450
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7535 | From: Thyagi@cup.portal.com (Thyagi Morgoth NagaSiva)
Subject: Re: OTO, the Ancient Order of Oriental Templars
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
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Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. [Honestly.]
The word of Sin is Restriction. [Would I kid you?]
Does one man's words encompass the majestic vision of thousands
of individuals? Quoting a man is not the same as quoting the
Order. Taken out of context, words can be interpreted much
differently than had one applied them within the confines of
their original expression.
I think this is the case regarding Hymenaeus Beta, Frater Superior
of the Order to which I belong. When he included that bit
from Merlinus X' he did us all a service. He showed us the extremes
to which Order members have been known to go in their fervor.
I have little knowledge regarding Reuss' background, but surely
he was an unusual man, and he was an important force in the Order
for many years.
Yet as people change so do Orders change, and while we look back
so carefully at the dirty laundry of O.T.O. remember that this is
only the surface skim and that many perspectives are now encompassed
which extend beyond any one individual. I hope to show that there
was and is much room for a difference of opinion within the Order
itself, perhaps by testing the limits myself.
Let us examine this issue a bit more closely....
"In 1895, Karl Kellner (1850-1905), a wealthy Austrian industrialist
and paper chemist, as well as a high-grade Mason, founded the Ordo
Templi Orientis. Kellner had traveled widely in the East, where he
met three adepts who instructed him specific magical practices.
Kellner's efforts to develop the Order were later assisted by Franz
Hartmann, Heinrich Klein and Theodore Reuss, who had worked together
prior to joining the O.T.O. The Order was first proclaimed in 1902
in Reuss's Masonic publication, 'Oriflamme'. On Kellner's death,
Reuss succeeded him as Outer Head [O.H.O.]. The 'Jubilee' edition of
the 'Oriflamme', published in 1912, announced that the Order taught
secret of sexual magic.
"Theodore Reuss was an interesting character. Born June 28, 1855 in
Augsburg, he entered Masonry in 1876. He was a singer, journalist and
possibly a spy for the Prussian political police, infiltrating the Socialist
League founded by Karl Marx's daughter and her husband. Reuss was
later associated with William Wynn Westcott, a leader of the Golden
Dawn, who later introduced him to John Yarker. Yarker chartered Reuss to
found the Rites of Memphis and Mizraim in Germany. After several
attempts to concretize various Masonic Rites, Reuss settled on the
development of the O.T.O.
"The Order experienced reasonably steady growth under Reuss' leadership.
For example, he chartered Papus in France, Rudolph Steiner in Berlin
and H. Spencer Lewis in the USA. In 1912, the historic meeting between
Reuss and Crowley occurred. Crowley wrote that Reuss came to him and
accused him of revealing Order secrets. When Crowley looked at it afresh,
the initiated interpretation of sexual magick unfolded itself to him for
the first time. Reuss appointed Crowley as Supreme and Holy King of all
the English speaking world, and it was this authorization that he invoked
when publishing the material of the Equinox.
"Reuss resigned as Outer Head of the Order in 1922 after suffering a
stroke and named Crowley his successor. All was well until 1925 when
_The Book of the Law_ was translated into German. There was a break
in the continuity of the Order. Manyk members split with the new O.H.O.
over the book, which Crowley was actively promulgating through the Order.
He had earlier revise dthe Order rituals at Reuss's request, deeply
infusing the doctrines of the New Aeon revelation."
_An Introduction to the History of the O.T.O._, by Ad Veritatem IX'
Within _Equinox III:10_, Edited by
Hymenaeus Beta, Frater Superior, Rex Summus Sanctissimus,
Caliph of the United States of America,
Published by Samuel Weiser, 1990.
There are many possible reasons that our Frater Superior included this
material in _Equinox III:10_. And this is the real point, is it not?
Why did he wish to publish such things about the history of his own
organization? Does he represent a dogmatic threat to the principle
of Thelema? Or is he exercising his True Will and putting forth very
complex pictures with no easy answers? A picture which leaves room
for very many interpretations.
It is quite easy for me to see, for example, that all of O.T.O. derived
out of the dribble of faltering Masonry, purchased by clever hucksters
with an ounce of courage and some writing ability to aid them. And I
can take that all the way down to our present Caliph, whose feeble
support of the 'Law of Thelema' is laughable at best.
Would I be thrown out of the Order for speaking in this way?
Will I?
I think not.
Why? Because my Frater will see it as a perspective, an interjection
I am using as an example. My illustration shows that we may express things
in the context of a larger work and the true significance of this may be
quite difficult to apprehend at first.
So it may be with OTO and Merlinus X'. Please look O.T.O. more carefully.
I do not support Reuss's words myself, as I am not qualified to assess
them, and I am critical of their pomposity. If I who am a member of
the Order take such a stand and am allowed to continue doing so, then
what can this say about the health of the Order? Does it mean that
the Order has 'gone soft' and abandoned its moral principles? Or
does it mean that it is strong in its ability to let the will of
universal kinship arise on its own, not shackled by some dogmatic
requirement? How shall we resolve these two possibilities?
I find a high calibre of individual associated with Ordo Templi Orientis.
They are often quite intelligent and sometimes very well versed in arcane
or usual information. They are quite often artists and geniuses.
Having met some 20 longstanding members in the SF Bay Area (many who are or
were very heavily involved with the Order), I can vouch for the integrity
of the organization as it stands.
I have sometimes questioned the policy of Hymenaeus Beta. In these moments
I followed my intuition, and I've found little to stop me from requesting
a Second initiation from a different O.T.O. body. I'm happily participating
in social groups (Feasts or Initiations) and have come to know the Gnostic
Mass well enough for my tastes.
This doesn't make me an authority on Order politics and explanations, however.
I can only hypothesize and relay to you what I understand based on my
limited contact with other members.
I urge you not to take the words of Merlinus X too far. There are many
ways to interpret words, and many people who have become involved with
the Order feel very strongly about the sanctity of personal freedom
and the preservation of individual vision.
I welcome other comment on this issue and will be writing more in response
to other posts in this thread.
Invoke me under my stars. Love is the law, love under will.
I am I!
Frater (I) Nigris (DCLXVI) CCCXXXIII
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7536 | From: sclark@epas.utoronto.ca (Susan Clark)
Subject: OOOPS!
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
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Picture if you will, the Habs going into the last couple minutes of the
game, leading 2-0. The Nords get a power play, pull Hextall, and get
a goal. Bout a minute later, they get another one. Then they win in
overtime......
A bad dream?.......
How's that Red Hot Chili Peppers song go...
"Give it away,give it away, give it away now...."
Oh well. Suppose I can always watch the Leafs win tomorrow night....
(smilies.....)
Am I the only female hockey fan in the world?
Susan Carroll-Clark
sclark@epas.utoronto.ca
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7537 | From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante)
Subject: Re: Definition of "two up"?
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
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Nntp-Posting-Host: north1.acpub.duke.edu
> So following that logic could you describe "Two down"
>as the transition period between "Two Up" and "coming to
>rest after a High or low side" ? Otherwise it sounds pretty
>good. :-)
>--
>Richard Pierson E06584 vnet: [908] 699-6063
Or perhaps it's referring to the wife and child sitting
in the sidecar next to the one-up on the
moto?
:)
Anyone ever heard of a game called oneup-onedown?
(it's a drinking game, for all you older folx...:)
--
Andy Infante | You can listen to what everybody says, but the fact remains |
'71 BMW R60/5 | that you've got to get out there and do the thing yourself. |
DoD #2426 | -- Joan Sutherland |
==============| My opinions, dammit, have nothing to do with anyone else!!! |
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7538 | From: gregg@netcom.com (gregg weber)
Subject: camcorder sony 8 mm forsale $350
Keywords: camcorder
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 10
It is 5 years old. Model CCD-V5. 6x zoom. Everything works perfectly.
Uses 8 mm tapes (not Hi-8, that was not around 5 years ago!).
$350 plus shipping or best offer.
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gregg@netcom.com Without taking sides, with no clouds of concepts.
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7539 | From: Tony Lezard <tony@mantis.co.uk>
Subject: Re: atheist?
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
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I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
> In article <ii1i2B1w165w@mantis.co.uk>
> Tony Lezard <tony@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>
> (Deletion)
> >
> >My opinion is that the strong atheist position requires too much
> >belief for me to be comfortable with. Any strong atheists out there
> >care to comment?
>[...]
> Humans just come up with the idea of a spiritual parent. It is one
> of the artifacts of human thought. The evidence for that is quite
> overwhelming. And the information content of the conceived is vanishing.
>
> In other words, if there were gods, they would hardly make sense, and
> it is possible to explain the phenomenon of religion without gods.
>
> The concept is useless, and I don't have to introduce new assumptions
> in order to show that.
>
> No leap of faith required for me. Your mileage may vary.
Yes I fully agree with that, but is it "I don't believe gods exist", or
"I believe no gods exist"? As MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mats Andtbacka)
pointed out, it all hinges on what you take the word "believe" to mean.
Unfortunately this is bound up in the definitions of strong and weak
atheism, at least according to the FAQ:
# Atheism is characterized by an absence of belief in the existence of God.
# Some atheists go further, and believe that God does not exist. The former is
# often referred to as the "weak atheist" position, and the latter as "strong
# atheism".
#
# It is important to note the difference between these two positions. "Weak
# atheism" is simple scepticism; disbelief in the existence of God. "Strong
# atheism" is a positive belief that God does not exist. Please do not
# fall into the trap of assuming that all atheists are "strong atheists".
(From mathew's "An Introduction to Atheism" version 1.2 last modified 5-Apr-93)
Should the FAQ be clarified to try to pin down this notion of "belief"?
Can it?
--
Tony Lezard IS tony@mantis.co.uk OR tony%mantis.co.uk@uknet.ac.uk OR things
like tony%uk.co.mantis@uk.ac.nsfnet-relay OR (last resort) arl10@phx.cam.ac.uk
PGP 2.2 public key available on request.
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7540 | From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: Re: 2 questions about the Centris 650's RAM
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info
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petere@tesla.mitre.org (Peter D. Engels) writes:
>According to the (seen several times) postings from Dale Adams of Apple
>Computer, both the 610 and the 650 require 80ns SIMMS - NOT 60 ns. Only
>the Centris 800 requires 60 ns SIMMs.
You're correct, except that's Quadra 800 not Centris 800.
-Hades
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7541 | From: hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU
Subject: Re: ISLAM BORDERS vs Israeli borders
Originator: hasan@haley.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
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Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
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In article <1993Apr5.202800.27705@wam.umd.edu>, spinoza@next06wor.wam.umd.edu (Yon Bonnie Laird of Cairn Robbing) writes:
|> In article <C50wJJ.J4r@newsflash.concordia.ca> ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA
|> (Ilyess Bdira) writes:
|> > > 1)why do jews who don't even believe in God (as is the case with many
|> > of the founders of secular zionism) have a right in Palestine more
|> > than the inhabitants of Palestine, just because God gave you the land?
|> G-d has nothing to do with it. Some of the land was in fact given to the
|> Jews by the United Nations, quite a bit of it was purchased from Arab
|> absentee landlords. Present claims are based on prior ownership (purchase
|> from aforementioned absentee landlords) award by the United Nations in the
|> partition of the Palestine mandate territory, and as the result of
|> defensive wars fought against the Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians, et al.
|>
|> ***
|> > 2)Why do most of them speak of the west bank as theirs while most of
|> > the inhabitants are not Jews and do not want to be part of Israel?
|> First, I should point out that many Jews do not in fact agree with the
|> idea that the West Bank is theirs. Since, however, I agree with those who
|> claim the West Bank, I think I can answer your question thusly: the West
|> bank was what is called the spoils of war. Hussein ordered the Arab Legion
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is very funny.
Anyway, suppose that in fact israel didnot ATTACK jordan till jordan attacked
israel. Now, how do you explain the attack on Syria in 1967, Syria didnot
enter the war with israel till the 4th day .
By the way it is funny that you are implying that the reason behind 1967
by israel was only to capture Sinai, egypt !
|> to attack Israel, which was a poor move, seeing as how the Israelis
|> promptly kicked his butt. The territory is therefore forefeit. Retaining
|> possession of ALL of the West bank is not desirable, but it beats
|> national suicide for the Israelis. Put another way, one could ask why it
|> is that so many Palestinians seem to think that Tel-Aviv belongs to them
|> and the future state of Palestine. As long as this state of affairs
|> continues, it seems that to give the Palestinians a place from which they
|> can launch attacks on Jews is a real poor idea. Giving up the entire West
|> Bank would be idiotic froma security standpoint. In addition, there is
|> the small matter of Jerusalem, which is considered to be part of the West
|> Bank. The chances of the Israelis giving up Jerusalem are nil. Even
|> leftists who think Yasser is a really cool dude, like Yossi Sarid, aren't
|> going to propose giving up Jerusalem. If he did, he'd get run out of town
|> on a rail.
|>
|>
|> chag sameach!
|> jeff
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7542 | From: lindae@netcom.com
Subject: Friend Needs Advice...
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 38
A friend of mine is having some symptoms and has asked me to post
the following information.
A few weeks ago, she noticed that some of her hair was starting
to fall out. She would touch her head and strands of hair would
just fall right out. (by the way, she is 29 or 30 years old).
It continued to occur until she had a bald spot about the
size of a half dollar. Since that time, she has gotten two
more bald spots of the same size. Other symptoms she's
described include: several months of an irregular menstrual
cycle (which is strange for her, because she has always been
extremely regular); laryngitis every few days -- she will wake
up one morning and have almost no voice, and then the next day
it's fine; dizzy spells -- she claims that she's had 4 or 5
very bad dizzy spells early in the morning, including one that
knocked her to the ground; and general fatigue.
She went to a dermatologist first who couldn't find any reason
for the symptoms and sent her to an internist who suspected
thyroid problems. He did the blood work and claims that everything
came back normal.
She's very concerned and very confused. Does anyone have any
ideas or suggestions? I told her that I thought she should
see an endocrinologist. Does that sound like the right idea?
** By the way, in case you are going to ask...no, she has recently
taken any medications that would cause these symptoms...no, she hasn't
recently changed her hair products and she hasn't gotten a perm,
coloring, or other chemical process that might cause hair to fall
out.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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7543 | From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols)
Subject: Need info on PS/2 mouse port
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Lines: 11
Would someone please email me the pinout for a PS/2 6-pin mini DIN mouse
port? I'm trying to make an adapter for a serial mouse, and the dealer who
knows what adapter works with the mouse I bought doesn't have it in stock.
I have several different adapters, but none of them make sense based on
what sketchy information I have about the port (they have connections to
"reserved" pins).
--
Bob Nichols
AT&T Bell Laboratories
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
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Subject: *** Dayna EtherPrint 10BASE-T (New & Cheap) ***
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: fml2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Francis M Lee)
Organization: Columbia University
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7545 | From: baez@guitar.ucr.edu (john baez)
Subject: End of the Space Age
Article-I.D.: galaxy.29034
Organization: University of California, Riverside
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Nntp-Posting-Host: guitar.ucr.edu
There is an interesting opinion piece in the business section of today's
LA Times (Thursday April 15, 1993, p. D1). I thought I'd post it to
stir up some flame wars - I mean reasoned debate. Let me preface it by
saying that I largely agree that the "Space Age" in the romantic sense
of several decades ago is over, and that projects like the space station
miss the point at this time. Reading, for example, "What's New" -
the weekly physics update we get here on the net - it's clear that the
romance of the day lies in the ever more fine-grained manipulation of
matter: by which I include biotechnology, condensed matter physics (with
its spinoffs in computer hardware and elsewhere), and the amazing things
people are doing with individual atoms these days. To a large extent, I
think, the romance some people still have with space is a matter of
nostalgia. I feel sure that someday we - or more precisely, our "mind
children" - will spread across space (unless we wipe ourselves out); but
I think that *manned* space exploration is not what is exciting about
what we can do *now*.
Anyway, let me quote some of this article, but not all...
SPACE AGE GLORY FADES FROM VIEW
Micheal Schrage (writer, consultant, and research associate at MIT)
At 35, America's Space Age won't have to suffer through the angst of a
midlife crisis.
The reason is that the Space Age is already dead. The technologies no
longer define our times, and the public has grown weary of the multibillion
-dollar celestial investments that yield minimal psychic or economic
rewards.
Space exploration has mutated from a central focuse of America's science
and technology debate into a peripheral issue. Speace is not a
meaningful part of the ongoing industrial competitiveness debate, our
technology infrastructure discussions or even our defense conversion
policy.
To be sure, America should continue to invest in satellite technologies
for telecommunications and remote sensing - cheap deep-space probes
would be nice too - but the ideal of space as a meaningful driver of
scientific and industrial innovation is now dead.
.....
Before the change in administrations, it would have been foolish to
write an obituary for the Space Age. The Bush White House aggressively
supported the space program and proposed spending well over $30 billion
to build space station Freedom alone.
Even as he proposed budget cuts in other science and technology domains,
Office of Management and Budget Director Richard Darman was an outspoken
public champion of big-ticket space expenditures. The reality that much
of the civilian space program - from the shuttle to the Hubble telescope
to the space station - was poorly conceived and unimpressively
implemented did not seem to matter much.
Political inertia and a nostalgic sense of futurism - not a coherent
vision or cost-effective sensibilities - determined multibillion-dollar
space budgets.
Indeed, with few notable exceptions, such as Voyager, the post-Apollo
era is the story of the gold-plated porkification of space exploration
with programs and promises that delivered less for more and more.
......
While the Clinton Administration has kept on the highly regarded Daniel
Goldin as administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space
Administration, it seems clear that space exploration is not being
positioned as either a symbolic or substantive centerpiece of America's
technological prowess. The space station budget has - rightly - been
slashed. Space is virtually ignored when the Administration champions
its competitiveness agenda.
......
"I wish this had happened 10 years ago instead of starting to happen
now," says Bruce Murray, a Caltech professor who ran NASA's Jet
Propulsion Lab in Pasadena. "We've put off a lot of things we shouldn't
have.... I would rather see a $10-billion NASA doing well than a
$40-billion one filled with white elephants."
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7546 | From: tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock)
Subject: Re: was:Go Hezbollah!
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In article <Apr15.175334.72079@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes:
>
>It is NOT a "terrorist camp" as you and the Israelis like
>to view the villages they are small communities with kids playing soccer
>in the streets, women preparing lunch, men playing cards, etc.....
>SOME young men, usually aged between 17 to 30 years are members of
>the Lebanese resistance. Even the inhabitants of the village do not
>know who these are, they are secretive about it, but most people often
>suspect who they are and what they are up to. These young men are
>supported financially by Iran most of the time. They sneak arms and
>ammunitions into the occupied zone where they set up booby traps
>for Israeli patrols. Every time an Israeli soldier is killed or injured
>by these traps, Israel retalliates by indiscriminately bombing villages
>of their own choosing often killing only innocent civilians.
This a "tried and true" method utilized by guerilla and terrorists groups:
to conduct operations in the midst of the local populace, thus forcing the
opposing "state" to possible harm innocent civilians in their search or,
in order to avoid the deaths of civilians, abandon the search. Certainly the
people who use the population for cover are *also* to blaim for dragging the
innocent civilians into harm's way.
Are you suggesting that, when guerillas use the population for cover, Israel
should totally back down? So...the easiest way to get away with attacking
another is to use an innocent as a shield and hope that the other respects
innocent lives?
>If Israel insists that
>the so called "Security Zone" is necessary for the protection of
>Northern Israel, than it will have to pay the price of its occupation
>with the blood of its soldiers.
Your damn right Israel insists on some sort of "demilitarized" or "buffer"
zone. Its had to put up with too many years of attacks from the territory
of Arab states and watched as the states did nothing. It is not exactly
surprizing that Israel decided that the only way to stop such actions is to
do it themselves.
>If Israel is interested in peace, than it should withdraw from OUR land.
What? So the whole bit about attacks on Israel from neighboring Arab states
can start all over again? While I also hope for this to happen, it will
only occur WHEN Arab states show that they are *prepared* to take on the
responsibility and the duty to stop guerilla attacks on Israel from their
soil. They have to Prove it (or provide some "guaratees"), there is no way
Israel is going to accept their "word"- not with their past attitude of
tolerance towards "anti-Israel guerillas in-residence".
>
>I have written before on this very newsgroup, that the only
>real solution will come as a result of a comprehensive peace
>settlement whereby Israel withdraws to its own borders and
>peace keeping troops are stationed along the border to insure
>no one on either side of the border is shelled.
Good lord, Brad. What in the world goves you the idea that UN troops stop
anything? They are ONLY stationed in a country because that country allows
them in. It can ask them to leave *at any time*; as Nasser did in '56 and
'67. Somehow, with that "limitation" on the troops "powers" I don't
think that Israel is going to be any more comfortable. Without a *genuine* commitment to peace from the Arab states, and concrete (not intellectual or political exercises in jargon) "guarantees" by other parties, the UN is worthless
to Israel (but, perhaps useful as a "ruse"?).
>This is the only realistic solution, it is time for Israel to
>realize that the concept of a "buffer zone" aimed at protecting
>its northern cities has failed. In fact it has caused much more
>Israeli deaths than the occasional shelling of Northern Israel
>would have resulted in.
Perhaps you are aware that, to most communities of people, there is
the feeling that it is better that "many of us die fighting
against those who attack us than for few to die while we silently
accept our fate." If,however, you call on Israel to see the sense of
suffering fewer casualties, I suggest you apply the same to Palestinian,
Arab and Islamic groups.
>If Israel really wants to save some Israeli lives it would withdraw
>unilaterally from the so-called "Security Zone" before the conclusion
>of the peace talks. Such a move would save Israeli lives,
>advance peace efforts, give Israel a great moral lift, better Israel's
>public image abroad and give it an edge in the peace negociations
>since Israel can rightly claim that it is genuinely interested in
>peace and has already offered some important concessions.
>Along with such a withdrawal Israel could demand that Hizbollah
>be disarmed by the Lebanese government and warn that it will not
>accept any attacks against its northern cities and that if such a
>shelling occurs than it will consider re-taking the buffer zone
>and will hold the Lebanese and Syrian government responsible for it.
From Israel's perspective, "concessions" gets it NOTHING...except the
realization that it has given "something" up and now *can only
hope* that the other side decides to do likewise. Words *can be taken
back* by merely doing so; to "take back" tangible items (land,
control of land) requires the sort of action you say Israel should
stay away from.
Israel put up with attacks from Arab state territories for decades
before essentially putting a stop to it through its invasion of Lebanon.
The entire basis of that reality was exactly as you state above: 1) Israel
would express outrage at these attacks and protest to the Arab state
involved, 2) that state promptly ignored the entire matter, secure
in the knowledge that IT could not be held responsible for the acts
committed by "private groups", 3) Israel would prepare for the next
round of attacks. What would Israel want to return to those days (and
don't be so idiotic as to suggest "trust" for the motivations of
present-day Arab states)?
>There seems to be very little incentive for the Syrian and Lebanese
>goovernment to allow Hizbollah to bomb Israel proper under such
>circumstances,
>
Ah, ok...what is "different" about the present situation that tells
us that the Arab states will *not* pursue their past antagonistic
policies towards Israel? Now, don't talk about vague "political factors"
but about those "tangible" (just like that which Israel gave up)
factors that "guarantee" the responsibility of those states. Your
assessment of "difference" here is based on a whole lot of assumptions,
and most states don't feel confortable basing their existence on that
sort of thing.
>and now the Lebanese government has proven that it is
>capable of controlling and disarming all militias as they did
>in all other parts of Lebanon.
>
>Basil
It has not. Without the support, and active involvement, of Syria,
Lebanon would not have been able to accomplish all that has occurred.
Once Syria leaves who is to say that Lebanon will be able to retain
control? If Syria stays thay may be even more dangerous for Israel.
>
Tim
Your view of this entire matter is far too serenely one-sided and
selectively naive.
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7547 | From: forsythe@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Michael Goldberger)
Subject: FOR SALE: MAC CLASSIC AND STYLEWRITER 1
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Lines: 6
I am selling my Macintosh Classic and Stylewriter 1 to the highest bidder.
You can reach me at 415 626-5869 (San Francisco)), or via email at
forsythe@leland.stanford.edu.
-David Goldberger
|
7548 | From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Subject: Re: Used Bikes, East vs. West Coasts
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Lines: 16
/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / groverc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Grover Cleveland) / 9:07 am Apr 14, 1993 /
Shop for your bike in Sacramento - the Bay area prices are
always much higher than elsewhere in the state.
GC
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Affirmative! Check Sacramento Bee, Fresno Bee, Modesto, Stockton,
Bakersfield and other newspapers for prices of motos in the
classifieds...a large main public library ought to have a
number of out-of-town papers.
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Graeme Harrison, Hewlett-Packard Co., Communications Components Division,
350 W Trimble Rd, San Jose, CA 95131 (gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com) DoD#649
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7549 | From: C.H.A.Wong@bradford.ac.uk (CHA WONG)
Subject: How can you see the launch of the Space Shuttle ?
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Sorry for asking a question that's not entirely based on the
technical aspects of space, but I couldn't find the
answer on the FAQs !
I'm currently in the UK, which makes seeing a Space Shuttle
launch a little difficult.....
However, I have been selected to be an exchange student
at Louisiana State Uni. from August, and I am absolutely
determined to get to see a Space Shuttle launch sometime
during the year at which I will be in America.
I hear there's a bit of a long mailing list, so if someone
can tell me how to get tickets and where to get them from, then
please E-mail me !
Thanks very much for your patience....
(And if anyone else wants to know, tell me and I'll summarize
for you - just to save all those poor people who have to
pay for their links !)
--
=============================== April is the cruellest month
Andrew Wong \ Mixing memory and desire
-----x----- \
E-mail:C.H.A.Wong@bradford.ac.uk \ T.S.Eliot - The Wasteland 1918
|
7550 | From: djf@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Marvin Batty)
Subject: Re: Moonbase race
Nntp-Posting-Host: cc_sysk
Organization: Starfleet, Coventry, UK
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In article <1r46o9INN14j@mojo.eng.umd.edu> sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu writes:
>In article <C5tEIK.7z9@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>
>>Apollo was done the hard way, in a big hurry, from a very limited
>>technology base... and on government contracts. Just doing it privately,
>>rather than as a government project, cuts costs by a factor of several.
>
>So how much would it cost as a private venture, assuming you could talk the
>U.S. government into leasing you a couple of pads in Florida?
>
Why use a ground launch pad. It is entirely posible to launch from altitude.
This was what the Shuttle was originally intended to do! It might be seriously
cheaper.
Also, what about bio-engineered CO2 absorbing plants instead of many LOX bottles?
Stick 'em in a lunar cave and put an airlock on the door.
--
****************************************************************************
Marvin Batty - djf@uk.ac.cov.cck
"And they shall not find those things, with a sort of rafia like base,
that their fathers put there just the night before. At about 8 O'clock!"
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7551 | From: Eastgate@world.std.com (Mark Bernstein)
Subject: Jewish Broadcasters (was Jewish Baseball Players?)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 8
For that matter, how many Gentleman of The Press Box have been Jewish? The
only Jewish sportscaster that comes to mind is Steve Williams (?), who had
a Phillies show on KYW in Philadelphia in the 80s.
--
Mark Bernstein
Eastgate Systems, Inc. 134 Main Street Watertown MA 02172 USA
voice: (800) 562-1638 in USA +1(617) 924-9044
Eastgate@world.std.com Compuserve: 76146,262 AppleLink:Eastgate
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7552 | From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California
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frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes ...
> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
>#frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes ...
>#>Plus questions for you: why do subjectivists/relativists/nihilists get so
>#>het up about the idea that relativism is *better* than objectivism?
>#
>#To the degree that relativism is a more accurate decription of the
>#truth than is objectivism, it provides more power and ability to
>#control events.
>
>I think you lose the right to talk about THE truth once you say values are
>relative. Accuracy is a value judgement, too. It so happens I agree with
>the substance of what you say below, but it's clear to me that at least
>*some* values are objective. Truth is better than falsehood, peace is
>better than war, education is better than ignorance. We know these things,
>if we know anything.
While I'll agree that these are generally held to be "good things", I
question whether they come very close to being objective values.
Especially considering that at one time or another each has been
viewed as being undesirable. I doubt you could even come up with
anything that could be said to be universally "good" or "bad".
And when I referred to "the truth" I was using the term
hypothetically, realizing full well that there may not even be such a
thing.
>#Assuming, for the moment, that morals _are_ relative, then two
>#relativists can recognize that neither has a lock on the absolute
>#truth and they can proceed to negotiate a workable compromise that
>#produces the desired results.
>
>No they cannot, because they acknowledge up front that THE desired
>results do not exist. That, after all, is the meaning of compromise.
>
>Plus some problems: If the relativists have no values in common, compromise
>is impossible - what happens then? Who, if anyone, is right? What happens
>if one relativist has a value "Never compromise?". A value "plant bombs in
>crowded shopping areas"? After all, if morals are relative, these values
>cannot *meaningfully* be said to be incorrect.
True enough. But they cannot be said to be anything more than
personal morals. One thing notably lacking in most extremists is any
sense of _personal_ accountability - the justification for any
socially unacceptable behaviour is invariably some "higher authority"
(aka, absolute moral truth).
>#Assuming that there is an absolute morality, two disagreeing
>#objectivists can either be both wrong or just one of them right; there
>#is no room for compromise. Once you beleive in absolute morals,
>#you must accept that you are amoral or that everyone who disagrees
>#with you is amoral.
>
>Untrue. One can accept that one does not know the whole truth. Part
>of the objective truth about morality may well be that flexibility is
>better than rigidity, compromise is better than believing you have a lock
>on morals, etc. In the same way, I can believe in an objective reality
>without claiming to know the mechanism for quantum collapse, or who shot
>JFK.
An objective truth that says one cannot know the objective truth?
Interesting notion. :-)
Certainly one can have as one's morals a belief that compromise is
good. But to compromise on the absolute truth is not something most
people do very successfully. I suppose one could hold compromise as
being an absolute moral, but then what happens when someone else
insists on no compromise? How do you compromise on compromising?
>#Given a choice between a peaceful compromise or endless contention,
>#I'd say that compromise seems to be "better".
>
>And I would agree. But it's bloody to pointless to speak of it if it's
>merely a matter of taste. Is your liking for peace any better founded
>than someone else's liking for ice-cream? I'm looking for a way to say
>"yes" to that question, and relativism isn't it.
Almost invariably when considering the relative value of one thing
over another, be it morals or consequences, people only consider those
aspects which justify a desired action or belief. In justifying a
commitement to peace I might argue that it lets people live long &
healthy and peaceful lives. While that much may well be true, it is
incomplete in ignoring the benefits of war - killing off the most
agressive member of society, trimming down the population, stimulating
production. The equation is always more complex than presented.
To characterize relative morals as merely following one's own
conscience / desires is to unduly simplify it.
--
Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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7553 | From: bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu (Bing Ho)
Subject: Know anything about EISA-2?
Organization: UC Berkeley
Lines: 11
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu
I read about the development of EISA-2 some time ago but dismissed it
in light of the intense interest in VESA and PCI. However, I recently
was disheartened to hear that ISA cannot address more than 16mb of RAM,
a limit that too many of us will hit all too soon.
I recall that EISA-2 will support 64-bit transfer among other enhancements.
Is there such a standard being developed?
--
Bing Ho
bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu University of California at Berkeley
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7554 | Subject: Space FAQ 03/15 - Data Sources
From: leech@cs.unc.edu (Jon Leech)
Expires: 6 May 1993 19:55:35 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Keywords: Frequently Asked Questions
Supersedes: <data_730956427@cs.unc.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler.cs.unc.edu
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Archive-name: space/data
Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:39:07 $
ONLINE AND OTHER SOURCES OF IMAGES, DATA, ETC.
INTRODUCTION
A wide variety of images, data, catalogs, information releases, and
other material dealing with space and astronomy may be found on the net.
A few sites offer direct dialup access or remote login access, while the
remainder support some form of file transfer. Many sites are listed as
providing 'anonymous FTP'. This refers to the File Transfer Protocol on
the Internet. Sites not connected to the Internet cannot use FTP
directly, but there are a few automated FTP servers which operates via
email. Send mail containing only the word HELP to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
or bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu, and the servers will send you instructions
on how to make requests.
The sources with the broadest selection of material are the NASA Ames
SPACE archive and the National Space Science Data Center.
Don't even ask for images to be posted to the net. The data volume is
huge and nobody wants to spend the time on it.
VIEWING IMAGES
The possible combinations of image formats and machines is forebodingly
large, and I won't attempt to cover common formats (GIF, etc.) here. To
read PDS and VICAR (and many other) formats on Unix systems running X,
use XV 2.11, available by anonymous FTP from export.lcs.mit.edu
(18.24.0.12) in contrib/xv-2.11.tar.Z and the other standard X11 FTP
sites.
The FAQ for the Usenet group alt.binaries.pictures discusses image
formats and how to get image viewing software. A copy of this document
is available by anonymous FTP from the Usenet FAQ archives at
pit-manager.mit.edu (18.72.1.58), in directory
pub/usenet/alt.binaries.pictures.
ONLINE ARCHIVES
NASA AMES
Extensive archives are maintained at NASA Ames and are available via
anonymous FTP or an email server. These archives include many images and
a wide variety of documents including this FAQ list, NASA press
releases, shuttle launch advisories, and mission status reports. Please
note that these are NOT maintained on an official basis.
FTP users should connect to ames.arc.nasa.gov (128.102.18.3) and look in
pub/SPACE. pub/SPACE/Index contains a listing of files available in the
archive (the index is about 200K by itself).
To access the archives by email, send a letter to
archive-server@ames.arc.nasa.gov (or ames!archive-server). In the
subject of your letter (or in the body), use commands like:
send SPACE Index
send SPACE SHUTTLE/ss01.23.91.
The capitalization of the subdirectory names is important. All are in
caps. Only text files are handled by the email server at present; use
one of the FTP email servers described in the introduction to this
section for images or programs.
The Magellan Venus and Voyager Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus CD-ROM image
disks have been put online in the CDROM and CDROM2 directories. The
disks will be rotated on a weekly basis. Thousands of images are
available in these collections.
The GIF directory contains images in GIF format. The VICAR directory
contains Magellan images in VICAR format (these are also available in
the GIF directory). A PC program capable of displaying these files is
found in the IMDISP directory (see the item "VIEWING IMAGES" below).
The NASA media guide describes the various NASA centers and how to
contact their public affairs officers; this may be useful when pursuing
specific information. It's in MISC/media.guide.
Any problems with the archive server should be reported to Peter Yee
(yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov).
NASA ASTROPHYSICS DATA SYSTEM
The ADS is a distributed data retrieval system which is easy to use and
provides uniform access to ground-based and space-based astronomy data
from NASA data centers across the country. It currently has over 140
data catalogs of radio, infrared, optical, UV, and X-ray data which can
be queried by position or any other parameter in the catalog. The ADS
also provides tools to manipulate and plot tabular results. In addition,
ADS has a Beta version of an Abstracts Service which allows users to
query over 125,000 abstracts of astronomy papers since 1975 by authors,
keywords, title words, or abstract text words.
ADS use requires direct Internet access. For more info and to sign up to
become a user, email ads@cuads.coloradu.edu. The User's Guide and
"QuickStart" Guide are available by anonymous FTP to sao-ftp.harvard.edu
in directory pub/ads/ADS_User_Guide (PostScript files).
Contact Carolyn Stern Grant (stern@cfa.harvard.edu).
NASA JET PROPULSION LAB (MISSION INFORMATION AND IMAGES)
pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.6.2) is an anonymous FTP site operated by
the JPL Public Information Office, containing news releases, status
reports, fact sheets, images, and other data on JPL missions. It may
also be reached by modem at (818)-354-1333 (no parity, 8 data bits, 1
stop bit).
Contact newsdesk@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov or phone (818)-354-7170.
NASA LANGLEY (TECHNICAL REPORTS)
techreports.larc.nasa.gov is an anonymous FTP site offering technical
reports. To get started, cd to directory pub/techreports/larc/92 and
retrieve files README and abstracts.92. Most files are compressed
PostScript. The reports are also in a WAIS database with the following
description:
(:source
:version 3
:ip-name "techreports.larc.nasa.gov"
:tcp-port 210
:database-name "nasa-larc-abs"
:cost 0.00
:cost-unit :free
:maintainer "M.L.Nelson@LaRC.NASA.GOV"
:description "NASA Langley Research Center Technical Reports
Contact tr-admin@techreports.larc.nasa.gov.
NASA SPACELINK
SpaceLink is an online service located at Marshall Space Flight Center
in Huntsville, Alabama. The system is specifically designed for
teachers. The data base is arranged to provide easy access to current
and historical information on NASA aeronautics, space research, and
technology transfer information. Also included are suggested classroom
activities that incorporate information on NASA projects to teach a
number of scientific principles. Unlike bulletin board systems, NASA
Spacelink does not provide for interaction between callers. However it
does allow teachers and other callers to leave questions and comments
for NASA which may be answered by regular mail. Messages are answered
electronically, even to acknowledge requests which will be fulfilled by
mail. Messages are generally handled the next working day except during
missions when turnaround times increase. The mail system is closed-loop
between the user and NASA.
SpaceLink also offers downloadable shareware and public domain programs
useful for science educators as well as space graphics and GIF images
from NASA's planetary probes and the Hubble Telescope.
You can dial in at (205)-895-0028 (300/1200/2400/9600(V.32) baud, 8
bits, no parity, 1 stop bit), or telnet to spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov
(128.158.13.250, also known as xsl.msfc.nasa.gov) if you're on the
Internet. Anonymous FTP capability (password guest) is now available.
Most of this information is also available from the Ames server in
directory SPACELINK.
NATIONAL SPACE SCIENCE DATA CENTER (NSSDC)
The National Space Science Data Center is the official clearinghouse for
NASA data. The data catalog (*not* the data itself) is available online.
Internet users can telnet to nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.36.23) and
log in as 'NODIS' (no password). You can also get the catalog by sending
email to 'request@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov'.
You can also dial in at (301)-286-9000 (300, 1200, or 2400 baud, 8 bits,
no parity, one stop). At the "Enter Number:" prompt, enter MD and
carriage return. When the system responds "Call Complete," enter a few
more carriage returns to get the "Username:" and log in as 'NODIS' (no
password).
The system is menu-driven; topics available as of 3/93 are:
1 - Master Directory - NASA & Global Change
2 - Personnel Information Management System
3 - Nimbus-7 GRID TOMS Data
4 - Interplanetary Medium Data (OMNI)
5 - Request data and/or information from NSSDC
6 - Geophysical Models
7 - CANOPUS Newsletter
8 - International Ultraviolet Explorer Data Request
9 - CZCS Browse and Order Utility
10 - Astronomical Data Center (ADC)
11 - STEP Bulletin Board Service
12 - Standards and Technology Information System
13 - Planetary Science & Magellan Project Information
14 - Other Online Data Services at NSSDC
15 - CD-ROMS Available at NSSDC
For users with Internet access, datasets are made available via
anonymous FTP once you select the desired datasets from the online
catalog. For other users, data may be ordered on CD-ROM and in other
formats. Among the many types of data available are Voyager, Magellan,
and other planetary images, Earth observation data, and star catalogs.
Viewers for Macintosh and IBM systems are also available. As an example
of the cost, an 8 CD set of Voyager images is $75. Data may ordered
online, by email, or by physical mail. The postal address is:
National Space Science Data Center
Request Coordination Office
Goddard Space Flight Center
Code 633
Greenbelt, MD 20771
Telephone: (301) 286-6695
Email address: request@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
SPACE TELESCOPE SCIENCE INSTITUTE ELECTRONIC INFORMATION SERVICE
stsci.edu (130.167.1.2) has a large amount of information about the
Hubble Space Telescope available by anonymous FTP, such as status
reports and newsletters, in addition to material oriented towards HST
observers and proposers. Get the top level README file to begin with.
Contact Pete Reppert (reppert@stsci.edu) or Chris O'Dea
(odea@stsci.edu).
STARCAT
The Space Telescope European Coordination Facility, at ESO/Garching
provides on-line access to a huge astronomical database, featuring
- Observation log files of several satellites/telescopes
(IUE,IRAS,HST,NTT...).
- Spectra and images (IUE, HST).
- Most of the astronomical catalogues (SAO, HR, NGC, PPM, IRAS,
Veron, GSC and many others, more than 50) in a very convenient
way (give center+radius+kind of objects, and you get the
corresponding files!).
Log on as ``starcat'' (no password) on node stesis.hq.eso.org
(134.171.8.100) or on STESIS (DECnet). The files created can be
retreived by FTP. Contact: Benoit Pirenne, bpirenne@eso.org (phone +49
89 320 06 433) at ST-ECF
ASTRONOMICAL DATABASES
The full SAO stellar database is *NOT* available online, probably due to
the 40 MB size. It may be ordered on magnetic tape from the NSSDC. A
subset containing position and magnitude only is available by FTP (see
"Astronomy Programs" below).
nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) has a large collection of astronomical
programs for many types of computers, databases of stars and deep sky
objects, and general astronomy information in directory /pub/astro. This
site is mainly for European users, but overseas connections are
possible.
The Ames archives contain a database of 8,436 galaxies including name,
RA, declination, magnitude, and radial velocity in MISC/galaxy.dat.
Supplied by Wayne Hayes (wayne@csri.utoronto.ca).
iris1.ucis.dal.ca (129.173.18.107) has a number of GIFs from Voyager,
Hubble, and other sources available by anonymous FTP in pub/gif (most of
this data is also in SPACE/GIF on the Ames server). Please restrict
access to 5pm - 8am Atlantic time.
pomona.claremont.edu has the Yale Bright Star catalog for anonymous FTP
in directory [.YALE_BSC]. Contact James Dishaw
(jdishaw@hmcvax.claremont.edu).
The Hubble Guide Star catalog is available on CD-ROM for the Mac and PC
for $49.95 US (catalog # ST101).
Astronomical Society of the Pacific
390 Ashton Ave.
San Francisco, CA 94112
Phone: (415) 337-2624 9 AM - 3 PM Pacific Time
FAX: (415) 337-5205
For German (and possibly other European) readers, Jost Jahn has a
service to distribute astronomical data to interested amateurs at cost.
About 30-40 catalogs are available for DM 6..8/disk. Several floppy disk
formats are available. Because of the expense of receiving email on his
system, he asks that you contact him by physical mail:
Jost Jahn
Neustaedter Strasse 11
W-3123 Bodenteich
GERMANY
Phone: FRG-5824-3197
ASTRONOMY PROGRAMS
Various astronomy-related programs and databases posted to the net in
the past are archived for anonymous FTP at multiple sites, including
ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9). Also see the ASTRO-FTP list posted to sci.astro
monthly, which is more complete than this list.
Astonomical/Space-related sources of interest in comp.sources.unix:
Volume 8: phoon moon phase and date routines
Volume 12,13: starchart starchart program & Yale Star data
Volume 15: moontool shows moon phase picture on Suns
Volume 16: sao reduced SAO catalog
Astonomical/Space-related sources of interest in comp.sources.misc:
Volume 8: moon another moon phase program
Volume 11: starchart starchart program, version 3.2
Volume 11: n3emo-orbit orbit: track earth satellites
Volume 12: starchart2 starchart program, update to version 3.2.1
Volume 13: jupmoons plotter for Jupiter's major moons [in perl]
Volume 13: lunisolar lunisolar (not sure what this does)
Volume 14: ephem-4.21 astronomical ephemeris, v4.21
Volume 14: n3emo-orbit patch to orbit 3.7
Volume 18: planet planet generation simulator
Elwood Downey (e_downey@tasha.cca.cr.rockwell.com), the author of
"ephem", has offered to mail copies to people who can't find it on one
of the archives.
XSAT, an X Window System based satellite tracking program, is
available by anonymous FTP from export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12) in
contrib/xsat1.0.tar.Z. Contact Dave Curry (davy@ecn.purdue.edu)
for more information.
Xsky, a computerized sky atlas for the X Window System, is available for
anonymous FTP on arizona.edu in the directory [.SOFTWARE.UNIX.XSKY] as
xsky.tarz. Contact Terry R. Friedrichsen (terry@venus.sunquest.com) for
more information.
The "Variable Stars Analysis Software Archive" is available via
anonymous FTP from kauri.vuw.ac.nz (130.195.11.3) in directory
pub/astrophys. This is intended for specialists in this field, and they
would appreciate people from outside New Zealand confining their FTP
access to the astrophys directory, as they pay a significant amount for
Internet access. Contents are relatively sparse at present due to the
youth of the archive - contributions are encouraged. Contact the archive
administrator, Timothy Banks (bankst@kauri.vuw.ac.nz) for more
information.
The "IDL Astronomy Users Library" is available by anonymous FTP from
idlastro.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.57.82). This is a central repository for
general purpose astronomy procedures written in IDL, a commercial image
processing, plotting, and programming language. Contact Wayne Landsman
(landsman@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov) for more information.
ORBITAL ELEMENT SETS
The most recent orbital elements from the NASA Prediction Bulletins are
carried on the Celestial BBS, (513)-427-0674. Documentation and tracking
software are also available on this system. The Celestial BBS may be
accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, or 2400 baud using 8 data bits, 1
stop bit, no parity.
Orbital element sets are available via anonymous FTP from the
following sites:
archive.afit.af.mil (129.92.1.66) NASA,TVRO,Shuttle
directory: /pub/space
ftp.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) NASA,TVRO,Molczan,CelBBS,
directory: /pub/astro/pc/satel Shuttle (*)
kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov (128.149.1.165) NASA,Molczan
directory: /pub/space/
SPACE DIGEST ARCHIVES
Copies of back issues of Space Digest are archived on
LISTSERV@UGA.BITNET. Send mail containing the message "INDEX SPACE" to
get an index of files; send it the message "GET filename filetype" to
get a particular file.
LANDSAT AND NASA PHOTOS
You can get black-and-white 1:1M prints, negatives, or positives for
$10, $18, $12 respectively for any Landsat data more than 2 years old
from EDC, (Eros (Earth Resources Orbiting Satellite) Data Center). Call
them at (605)-594-6511. You get 80 meter resolution from the MSS
scanner, 135x180 kilometers on a picture 135x180 mm in size. I think you
have to select one band from (green, red, near IR, second near IR), but
I'm not sure. Digitial data is also available at higher prices.
Transparencies of all NASA photos available to the public can be
borrowed from the NASA photo archive; you can have copies or prints
made.
NASA Audio-Visual Facility
918 North Rengstorff Ave
Mountain View, CA 94043
(415)-604-6270
PLANETARY MAPS
The USGS address for maps of the planets is:
U.S. Geological Survey,
Distribution Branch,
Box 25286, Federal Center, Bldg. 41
Denver, CO 80225
Maps cost $2.40 to $3.10 per sheet (a few come in sets of 2 or 3 sheets).
The best global maps of Mars based on Viking images are 1:15,000,000
scale in 3 sheets. These maps are:
I-1535 (2 sheets only) - relief, albedo, names
I-1535
I-1618 (3 sheets) - relief, names
I-2030 (3 sheets) - relief, topographic contours
I-1802-A,B,C (3 sheets) - geology
There are many other maps as well: 30 sheets at 1:5,000,000 scale in
relief, albedo, geology, photomosaic forms (not all 30 sheets available
in all formats); 140 sheets at 1:2,000,000 scale as photomosaics of the
whole planet, about 100 sheets of interesting sites at 1:500,000 scale
in photomosaic format, and lots of special sheets.
Then there are maps of Mercury, Venus, the Moon, the four Galilean
Satellites, six moons of Saturn and five of Uranus. [Phil Stooke
(stooke@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca), the author of this item, has offered to
respond to email requests for information on any topic relating to lunar
and planetary maps.]
COMETARY ORBIT DATA
The Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams and the Minor Planet
Center announce the sixth edition of the Catalogue of Cometary Orbits in
IAU Circular 4935. The catalogue contains 1292 entries which represent
all known comets through November 1989 and is 96 pages long.
Non-subscribers to the Circulars may purchase the catalogue for $15.00
while the cost to subscribers is $7.50. The basic catalogue in ASCII
along with a program to extract specific orbits and calculate
ephemerides is available on MS-DOS 5.25-inch 2S2D diskette at a cost of
$75.00 (the program requires an 8087 math coprocessor). The catalogue
alone is also available by e-mail for $37.50 or on magnetic tape for
$300.00.
Except for the printed version of the catalogue, the various magnetic
media or e-mail forms of the catalogue do not specifically meantion
non-subscribers. It is possible that these forms of the catalogue may
not be available to non-subscribers or that their prices may be more
expensive than those given. Mail requests for specific information and
orders to:
Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams
Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory
Cambridge, MA 02138, USA
NEXT: FAQ #4/15 - Performing calculations and interpreting data formats
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7555 | From: sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Freedom In U.S.A.
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Lines: 51
In article <1993Apr25.221603.3260@Virginia.EDU>, ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
> jaa12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu writes:
> > Dear Mr. Beyer:
> >
> > It is never wise to confuse "freedom of speech" with "freedom"
> > of racism and violent deragatory."
> >
> > It is unfortunate that many fail to understand this crucial
> > distinction.
>
> In fact, if a speach was not offensive to some, its
> protection under Freedom of speach laws would be useless. It is
> speach that some find questionable that must be protected, be
> it religiously blasphemous or inherently racist. It is only
> through civilized discourse and not scare tactics that one can
> enlighten those that one perceives to be ignorant. That is the
> idea behind freedom of expression.
> What you find offensive might be perceived as truth by
> some and what they might find offensive might be your belief.
> It is only through free exchange of ideas (and insults as the
> case seems to be with this channel) that one can change
> another's erring ways.That is why Jefferson said that here
> we are not afraid to "tolerate error so long as reason is left to
> combat it".
Those who forward offensive posts to the sysadmin aren't curtailing
anyones' freedom of speech. The neo-nazi movement has a right to
make speeches, say anything they want. They do not have a right
to have these speeches published by the N.Y. Times. That depends
on the Times analysis of the economic and to somewhat extent
newsworthy value of those speeches. Likewise to the sysadmin
of this fellows system. If he feels his resources are being
used in a manner that is not in his best interests, or are
perhaps embarassing to his organization, he will act just as
the New York Times does, not to be a conduit for these ideas.
The poster is after all free-loading off of someone else's
pocket book when he posts. He who controls the purse strings
has the right to make the decision how he wants those funds
spent or not spent.
Noone is going to put the poster in jail, unless he bombs a local
building as a symbol of his hatred. Freedom of Speech in no
way equates to accessibility to conduits of information. The
market of ideas has its own "natural selection" process that
weeds out the ga-ga from the credible ideas that are of
importance.
Seth Rosenthal
Disclaimer: All opinions are my own not my employers'.
|
7556 | From: rab@well.sf.ca.us (Bob Bickford)
Subject: Re: More technical details
Nntp-Posting-Host: well.sf.ca.us
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
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Another objection occurred to me. There was a comment about how
supposedly there would only be one decode box, operated by the FBI.
This is flat ridiculous, and I don't believe it for a millisecond.
Even *if* they in fact only build one (or two or some other small
number) of these, that won't stop others from building one. Make
it work like two Clipper-chip phones, one listening to each side
of the recorded conversation. I'll have to have another look at
the specs posted so far, but offhand I didn't see anything that
would preclude this sort of thing.....
--
Robert Bickford rab@well.sf.ca.us
Treasurer and Newsletter Editor, /-------------------------------------\
Lib. Party of Marin County (CA) | Don't Blame Me: I Voted Libertarian |
Member, CA State Central Committee \-------------------------------------/
|
7557 | Subject: Re: Clipper considered harmful
From: yuan1@scws7.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan)
Distribution: inet
Nntp-Posting-Host: scws7.harvard.edu
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shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>It seems likely to me that that a large subset of encrypted communications
>would be archived to tape so they could be read if sometime in the future
>probable cause arises and a warrant is obtained. I can even imagine this
>being found legal and constitutional, since nothing is actually listened to
>until a valid warrant is issued and the keys are obtained.
>Imagine archiving all pay-phone conversations, so if someone turns out
>to be a drug dealer, you can listen to all their past drug deals. And
>archive calls to/from suspected Mafia members, potential terrorists,
>radicals, etc. Imagine the convenience for the police of being able to
>get a warrant now and listening to all the calls the World Trade Center
>bombers made in the past year.
Imagine if this were available during the 1992 elections; instead of
clumsily searching through the Clinton passport file, they could have
just done a "voice-grep" (as someone stated earlier) on his telephone
conversations for the last 10 years.
I'm not a lawyer and I don't even play one on TV, but intuitively there's
something wrong with having one's words archived for possible future
use against you. This possibility frightens me more than any of the
talk about the Clipper Chip, right to cryptography, etc.
>Since archiving would be such a powerful tool and so easy to do, why
>wouldn't it happen?
I'm afraid it just might.
-nhy
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nina H. Yuan "It's a miracle that curiosity
Harvard College survives formal education."
yuan1@husc.harvard.edu - Albert Einstein
|
7558 | From: mucit@cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu)
Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris)
Article-I.D.: vein.MUCIT.93Apr15173530
<1993Apr14.064421.27655@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
<93104.141046FINAID5@auvm.american.edu> <C5I1B6.HIv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
<1993Apr14.211615@IASTATE.EDU> <C5IF8u.3Ky@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
<1993Apr15.092101@IASTATE.EDU> <C5JH
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In-Reply-To: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Thu, 15 Apr 1993 19:16:16 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: vein.cs.rochester.edu
In article <C5JHJ4.F4J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>>I am not saying that conflicts started with that. It is only
>>not one side being the aggressive and the ither always suffering.
>>It is sad that we (both) still are not trying to compromise.
>>I remember the action of the Turkish government by removing the
>>visa requirement for greeks to come to Turkey. I thought it
>>was a positive attempt to make the relations better.
>
> I thought it was a smart move to receive more money from Greek tourists.
> I bet that this week there should be about 200,000 tourists from Greece
> in Turkey. Each one will leave at least $1,000 so go and figure what this
> means to your economy. If you had kept the visa requirement, how many
> Greeks would bother to visit Turkey?
Smart indeed. If what you're saying is true, Greeks who visit are happy,
the Turkish merchants are happy; who is harmed? No one. So not only was
it a smart move, it was also a good move for it adds to the happiness of
200.000 Greeks per week and however many Turkish merchants they interact with.
One simple move in the paperwork arena -> lotsa happy people of both
nationalities. Just and observation.
cheers,
BM
[stuff deleted]
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7559 | From: steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Defensive Averages 1988-1992, Third Base
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
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In <C5L068.6v3@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> craigs@srgenprp.sr.hp.com (Craig Stelter) writes:
>Dale Stephenson (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>: In <C5JJrJ.EM3@cs.uiuc.edu> steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
>: >Compiled from the last five Defensive Average reports, here are the career
>: >DAs for the individual players in the reports. Stats are courtesy of
>: >Sherri Nichols. Players are listed in descending order.
>: And some comments, with some players deleted.
>: >Third Basemen
>: >-------------
>: >Leius, Scott ---- ---- ---- .653 .680 0.672
>: Looks good. Too bad he's moving to short.
>: >Pagliarulo, Mike .631 ---- .575 .744 ---- 0.649
>: This is an interesting line. His 1988 figure was slightly below average.
>: His 1990 was pathetic, and his 1991 was the next best year by anybody. Part of
>: that may be his mobility. 1988 was with the Yankees. 1990 was with the
>: Padres, who appear to have a rotten infield. 1991 was with the Twins, and
>: judging by Leius and Gaetti, the Metrodome may be a good place to play
>: third.
>Gaetti, Gary .616 .638 .655 .632 ---- 0.637
>Apologies if I don't know what I'm talking about :-), but as a Twins fan,
>I like to think they have good players in any park. Not sure if I remember
>completely or not, but I think Gaetti played with the Twins in '87 for the
>world series, and again in '88 (note that's his lowest of the 4). I believe
>the next 3 (or at least the last two) were played with the Angels.
Actually, Gaetti's first year with California was 1991. His .632 DA wasn't
out of line with his career averages, and his .616 was actually below average
in 1988. But check out the last three years at the Metrodome.
1990
Gaetti .655
AL Avg .604
1991
Pags .744
Leius .653
Al Avg .620
1992
Leius .680
AL Avg .603
For the last three years, the highest DAs in either league have been posted
by Minnesota players -- three different ones, including one (Pags) who was
mediocre to horrible elsewhere. That doesn't *prove* a park effect is at
work, any more than San Diego's horrible infield numbers prove a park effect
is at work. But it looks like a strong possibility to me.
Lots
>of factors make a player excell... I hate it when so many use the dome.
>It may not be ideal, but nice to comfortably enjoy baseball and football
>even when it's snowing and raining.
And it might even be a nice play to thrid base.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic
"It is considered good to look wise, especially when not
overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
|
7560 | From: riggs@descartes.etl.army.mil (Bill Riggs)
Subject: Losers (Was Re: Stop putting down white het males.)
Keywords: racism, sexism, mysogyny
Organization: LNK Corporation, Riverdale, MD
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Nntp-Posting-Host: descartes.tec.army.mil
In article <1993Apr2.180839.14305@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tree of Schnopia) writes:
>In <1993Apr2.064804.29008@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> michael@neuron6.jpl.nasa.gov (Michael Rivero) writes:
>
>
>> I don't know what you as a white male did. I do know what white males,
>>as a class, have done.
>
>> They've invented the light bulb, the automobile, the airplane, printing with
>>movable type, photography, computers, the electric guitar. anasthesia, rocket
>>powered space flight, the computer, electricity, the telephone, TV, motion
>>pictures, penecillin(sp), telescopes, nylon, and the X-Ray machine.
>
>Two glaring errors here. First, white males don't do anything as a "class."
>INDIVIDUAL white males invented those things, which means nothing to white
>males as a whole. Second, you neglected to mention Charles Manson, Hitler,
>McCarthy, Jack the Ripper, Ted Bundy, and a whole slew of individuals who
>have done horrible, evil things. If white males can take the credit for
>our fellow white males' boons, we must also take the blame for our
>fellows' blights. I claim we deserve neither credit nor blame for these
>things.
>
>
>> We are told, by U.S. congresswoman Barbara Jordan, that we are biologically
>>incapable of compassion.
>
>She's full of shit.
>
>> We are told by Susan Brownmiller that we're all rapists and that's ALL
>>we are.
>
>She's full of shit.
>
>> We're told by Catherine Comins that a false rape charge is actually good
>>for us.
>
>She's full of shit.
>
>> We are told by the feminist lawyers that we are not to be trusted with
>>children.
>
>They're full of shit.
>
>> We are told, by Newsweek magazine, that we are "poor sports" if we complain.
>
>Newsweek is full of shit.
>
>The point, ladies and gents? Michael is not entirely correct in his theory
>that because members of our race and gender made great advances, the race
>and gender as a whole deserve more respect than they receive. White males
>DO deserve to be treated better than they are being treated, but not for
>that reason. And the male-bashers he quoted are repugnant hate-mongers, no
>better than the chauvinists they despise. So no one's right, as usual.
>
>White males need to wake up and realize that they're being unfair, yes. But
>everyone else needs to wake up and realize that being unfair right back is
>disgusting, racist and sexist.
>
>Why can't we learn to treat everyone fairly, without generalizing? What
>stupidity gene makes this so difficult? "I'd like to buy the world a
>clue..."
The word that is missing in this whole discourse is not the "B"
word, or the "H" word, or even the "N" or "W" words. It is the "L" word -
LOSER !!
That's right. When we boil all the crap out of this argument, it
is all about WINNING and LOSING, and nothing else. Let me explain.
Remember the eighties ? No excuses. Nobody who can handle a mail
buffer can claim they are "too young" to remember Ronald Reagan - yet.
The eighties were about "How America Learned to Win Once Again". Then
(wouldn't you know), we won so well that there was nothing left to win.
No Cold War to endure. No nuclear holocaust. No more worlds to conquer
(We forgot about outer space long ago). The kind of overwhelming, no
holds barred success that killed Alexander the Great. Yes, there were a
few "little" problems along the way - stock market meltdown here, an
S&L bailout there, a few revolts and crazy Middle Eastern dictators to
contend with, but as Tacitus would tell ya', the God Augustus never had
it so good.
In the meantime, there is guilt for winning, maybe a fear that one
doesn't deserve one's bounty - or success. So there is a "kinder and gentler
type of politician these days, Bill Clinton, affirmative action, and lots of
discourse about people who "don't get it". For those of us in the winning
business, this kind of talk is mildly irritating, but there is still no
suggestion of losing.
But what do we find now ? To put it mildy, the stereotype of our
"white male" non-winner is Woody Hayes in the Rose Bowl, punching out
photojournalists when those California fruits and nuts steal another one
with a "Hail Mary" pass in the Fourth Quarter. (The whole idea behind 'three
yards and a cloud of dust' is to wear your opponent down until he collapses
in the final period) But Woody just used his fists - Uzzies seem to be the
weapon of choice these days.
Who is D-FENS, anyway ? The answer is as plain as the horn rims on
your face. The guy is MICHAEL DOUGLAS, posing as a LOSER. This
is known as controversial casting. But that baggy short-sleeved white shirt
sure does look natural on Mike doesn't it. Gordon Gekko will never look the
same. (Though Woody always dressed that way.) Did we really expect Gekko to
take it easy and enjoy that kind of wardrobe, without putting up a fuss ?
What we are starting to lose sight of is, that bashing D-FENS is
the same game as bashing that poor African American slug that Clint Eastwood
used to blow away all the time. As that arch-WASP (male gender) George C. Scott
declaimed, "Americans traditionally LOVE TO WIN. They love a winner, and will
not tolerate a loser." And so on.
The political implications are simple. If, as many socialists - and
Democrats - do, you consider society a finite pie to a apportioned in some
"equitable" way, then you have to worry about who is a winner and who is a
loser to tell whose side you are on. That could be black women today, Asian
homosexuals tommorrow, and yes indeed, white men some yet to be determined
day when the balance of the pie has finally swung against that (39%)
minority.
Or you can just blow the whole thing off and say - as do most
conservatives and all the libertarians - and act is if you didn't care
who's winning and who's losing. In some cases, you might say something
about make sure the game is fair (equality of opportunity, not of condition).
In the latter case, you might be able to identify yourself as a
"neoconservative" or a "neoliberal" depending on how much you want to limit
the pot.
Either way you go, the way of the Winner is no longer the way to be
popular - at least after you graduate from High School (but you'll still
be popular at High School reunions). But it beats being a Nerd, as I
would imagine Michael Douglas would now agree, and in the long run, it
is the only way to go. (Even in Hollywood, which treats Losers worse than any
other place in America except for New York and Washington, D.C. - and even in
Columbus, Ohio, which produced Alex Keaton, but no champion football teams in
the eighties and the first quarter of the nineties) I'd like to
see more Winners in this society, regardless of race, gender, religious
preference, and sexual orientation. Maybe we should even let a few more of
them be white men !! (We should DEFINITELY let the Buckeyes win the Rose Bowl
someday)
Bill R.
--
"The only proposals in the Senate that I "My opinions do not represent
have seen fit to mention are particularly those of my employer or
praiseworthy or particularly scandalous ones. any government agency."
It seems to me that the historian's foremost - Bill Riggs
duty is to ensure that virtue is remembered,
and to deter evil words and deeds with the
fear of posterity's damnation."
- Tacitus, _Annals_ III. 65
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7561 | From: daniels@NeoSoft.com (Brad Daniels)
Subject: Re: C++ toolkit "directions" ?
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Lines: 41
In article <533@imp.HellNet.org> devil@loki.HellNet.org (Gil Tene) writes:
>I am trying to figure out the current C++ toolkit "directions".
>More simply, I'd like to know which C++ toolkit to "bet on"
>for use in a new long term project.
I have the same problem. I have looked at Motif++, WWL, InterViews, GINA++,
and a few variations on the above. I've also done a cursory examination
of Rogue Wave's View.h++. I like View.h++'s abstractions best of all of the
toolkits I mentioned, but the resulting code looks little like Motif, and I
have little confidence that this software will catch on or otherwise result
in significant longevity for my code. GINA++ allows you to write code which
looks a great deal like Motif and also makes interesting use of inheritance,
but the resulting code is almost too Motif-like, and is certainly not
significantly less verbose than equivalent C code. InterViews looks
promising, but I haven't found a free version with Motif support, and I'm
not confident how widely InterViews with Motif support will be adopted,
and what (if any) specific Motif support will be available over time. The
other libraries produce code which is less Motif-like, but which does not make
sufficient use of the features of C++ to simplify my coding task.
At this point, my inclination is to write my Motif manipulation routines in
C, and invoke those routines from my C++ code using simple abstractions suited
to my specific task. Later, if OSF or some credible standards-setting body
comes up with a C++ interface to Motif, I will change to that. It does me
no goo to write in C++ if my choice of interfaces leaves me with code which
leaves me tied to an abstraction which is not consistent with the industry
directions. It's better to take a standard if inferior solution for now
than to go with a slgihtly superior approach which will leave me with both
useless code and useless skills a few years from now. Views.h++ is the only
library I'd consider right now, but in our environment, we'd end up spending
nearly $5000 to use it, and I can't justify it when it's likely to cause
short-term productivity decreases as we learn the new abstraction, and is
unlikely to be a sufficiently long-lived solution for us to reap the benefits
at the high end of the J curve.
- Brad
--
Brad Daniels ` | "If money can't buy happiness,
daniels@neosoft.com | I guess I'll have to rent it."
I don't work for NeoSoft, and | - Weird Al Yenkovic
don't speak for my employer. |
|
7562 | From: rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy)
Subject: Re: The Tories could win the "lottery"...Clinton GST?
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 48
In article <C5Jy07.8GK@dscomsa.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>
>In article <1993Apr15.053553.16427@news.columbia.edu>, gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.
edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>
>|>cmk@world.std.com (Charles M Kozierok) writes:
>|>>gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>|>>}
>|>>} Secondly, any Canadian who has worked and participates in the
>|>>} insurance (it's a negative option, you have to explicitly decline
>|>>} it) knows that the premium is deducted separately ...
>|>>
>|>>yes, and some Americans actually have a problem with having more
>|>>of their money taken from them to pay for others' health care...
>|>
>|>But note again, the Canadian and German health insurance is voluntary
>
>Not true. I am required to have insurance by law. the method of collection
>effectively makes it a tax.
>
>
>|>>the selfish bastards that they are. unfortunately, that number has
>|>>diminished recently, but once President Pinocchio gets through
>|>>with us, i hope for a reversal of trend.
>
>Well here we have the right hoping for more selfish bastards. Pity they
>don't look at what 12 years of the Regan/Bush "selfish Bastard" ecconomy
>has done to the country.
>
>Elect a selfish bastard government and they will run the country for themselve
s,
>thats why they are selfish bastards. Bush and Regan gave tax breaks for the
>ultra rich and paid for them by borrowing against the incomes of the middle
>class.
>
This country is hardly ruined. In fact, it is booming compared to after the
1980 election.
This whole "USA has gone to hell and Reagan/Bush caused it", is not only lame,
pathetic, and old....... it's wrong.
Under Reagan/Bush the economy grew by 1.1 trillion dollars. This is more than
the entire economy of Germany, a "kind, gentle" country, in many peoples'
books. What a joke.
Ryan
|
7563 | From: manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes)
Subject: Re: Gun Control (was Re: We're Mad as Hell at the TV News)
Organization: Manes and Associates, NYC
Distribution: na
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
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hambidge@bms.com wrote:
: In article <C4psoG.C6@magpie.linknet.com>, manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes:
: >: Rate := per capita rate. The UK is more dangerous.
: >: Though you may be less likely to be killed by a handgun, the average
: >: individual citizen in the UK is twice as likely to be killed
: >: by whatever means as the average Swiss. Would you feel any better
: >: about being killed by means other than a handgun? I wouldn't.
:
: >What an absurd argument. Switzerland is one-fifth the size of the
: >UK with one-eigth as many people therefore at any given point on
: >Swiss soil you are more likely to be crow bait. More importantly,
: >you are 4x as likely to be killed by the next stranger approaching
: >you on a Swiss street than in the UK.
: You are betraying your lack of understanding about RATE versus TOTAL
: NUMBER. Rates are expressed, often, as #/100,000 population.
: Therefore, if a place had 10 deaths and a population of 100,000, the
: rate would be 10/100,000. A place that had 50 deaths and a population
: of 1,000,000 would hav a rate of 5/100,000. The former has a higher
: rate, the latter a higher total. You are less likely to die in the
: latter. Simple enuff?
For chrissakes, take out your calculator and work out the numbers.
Here... I've preformatted them for you to make it easier:
handgun homicides/population
----------------------------
Switzerland : 24 / 6,350,000
UK : 8 / 55,670,000
... and then tell me again how Switzerland is safer with a more
liberal handgun law than the UK is without...by RATE or TOTAL NUMBER.
Your choice.
--
Stephen Manes manes@magpie.linknet.com
Manes and Associates New York, NY, USA =o&>o
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7564 | From: philip@mentorg.com (Philip Peake)
Subject: Re: Radar detector DETECTORS?
Distribution: na
Nntp-Posting-Host: sun_shine.mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
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In article <1993Apr20.022922.11861@julian.uwo.ca>, wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr19.231050.2196@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com> babb@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Scott Babb) writes:
|>
|> >No restriction was placed
|> >on receiving RADAR (or, curiously, cordless phones.) Enforcement
|> >of the Virginia law is in violation of the FCA of 1934.
|>
|> Isin't there some kind of rule (regulation, law, whatever) in some
|> juristictions that prohibit the use of *police band* recievers
|> in vehicles? And that radar transmissions are included in the police band
|> so they get covered by the same regulation?
What do you mean by "police band" - there is no such thing.
Anyway, radar detectors work in shared bands.
If you applied your test, all of those radar operated door
openers in malls would be illegal.
One of the great problems here is that there are too many
ill-educated (read illiterate) people making too many laws
about subjects on which they are incompetent - there may well
be laws refereing to "police bands", they are almost certainly
local in scope (state or county) - created by well-meaning,
but incompetent idiots.
Unfortunaltely, laws do not have to be sensible (or even enforceable).
Lawmakers exist to pass laws - and will continue to do so, until
the day where you are faced with death for not doing X, and
amputation of all your limbs for doing X ... the choice will be yours.
Note: no smiley.
Philip
|
7565 | From: agodwin@acorn.co.uk (Adrian Godwin)
Subject: Re: Single chip receiver for FSK?
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, UK
Lines: 26
In article <C5L0xM.E25@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> jra@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (John Ackermann x 2966) writes:
>My goal is to come up with an inexpensive design for a receiver "back
>end" with IF input on one end and an FSK demondulator on the other. I'm
>particularly interested in ways to use a higher IF than 10.7 -- do any
>current chips work up to, say 150MHz with internal downconversion so a
>normal IF filter can be used?
>
GEC/Plessey specify a series of FM demodulators (SL1454 etc) for use in
satellite TV receivers : 150 or 600MHz in, 10MHz of baseband video out.
I think there's also a related data slicer / clock recovery circuit intended
for use in DMAC decoders, though that isn't used in the most common
implementation - it may not be in volume production.
The most easily available components probably vary with local satellite
standards, and I think the european systems vary rather widely from those
in the US - so it may be worth investigating locally-available receiver
designs to find out what's in common use.
-adrian
--
Adrian Godwin : agodwin@acorn.co.uk : adrian@fangorn.demon.co.uk : g7hwn@gb7khw
ObDisclaimer : I believe this rubbish .. don't imagine that anyone else does.
|
7566 | From: sigma@rahul.net (Kevin Martin)
Subject: Re: XV under MS-DOS ?!?
Nntp-Posting-Host: bolero
Organization: a2i network
Lines: 11
In <1993Apr20.083731.260@eicn.etna.ch> NO E-MAIL ADDRESS@eicn.etna.ch writes:
>Do somenone know the solution to run XV ??? any help would be apprecied..
I would guess that it requires X, almost certainly DV/X, which commonly
uses the GO32 (DJGPP) setup for its programs. If you don't have DV/X
running, you can't get anything which requires interfacing with X.
--
Kevin Martin
sigma@rahul.net
"I gotta get me another hat."
|
7567 | From: rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch)
Subject: Program argument: geometry
Organization: Oracle Europe
Lines: 7
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
I have a question regarding the processing of program arguments
such as the -geometry option. Since this is a standard X option,
I'm wondering wether I have to parse it manually or whether there
is some predefined function that will do this for me?
Thanks for any info
--> Robret
|
7568 | From: jbrandt@NeoSoft.com (J Brandt)
Subject: Beta Testers Wanted for Graphics Libraries
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Keywords: xeg ceg beta imsl vni x graphics
Lines: 48
Visual Numerics Inc. (formerly IMSL and Precision Visuals) is in the
process of securing sites for beta testing X Exponent Graphics 1.0
and C Exponent Graphics 2.0. (Both X Exponent Graphics and C Exponent
Graphics are 3GL products). The beta period is from April 26 through
June 18. The platform is HP9000/700 running under OS 8.07 with
ansi C 8.71 compiler. The media will be sent on 4mm DAT cartridge
tape. Here are some of the key facts about the two products.
X Exponent Graphics 1.0 key facts:
1. Complete collection of high-level 2D and 3D application plot types
available through a large collection of X resources.
2. Cstom widget for OSF/Motif developers.
3. Built-in interactive GUI for plot customization.
4. Easily-implemented callbacks for customized application feedback.
5. XEG 1.0, being built on the Xt Toolkit provides the user a widget
library that conforms to the expected syntax and standards familar
to X programmers.
6. XEG will also be sold as a bundle with Visual Edge's UIM/X product.
This will enable user to use a GUI builder to create the graphical
layout of an application.
C Exponent Graphics 2.0 key facts:
1. Written in C for C application programmers/developers. The library
is 100% written in C, and the programming interface conforms to C
standards, taking advantage fo the most desirable features of C.
2. Build-in GUI for interactive plot customization. Through mouse
interaction, the user has complete interactive graph output control
with over 200 graphics attributes for plot customization.
3. Large collection of high-level application functions for "two-call"
graph creation. A wide variety of 2D and 3D plot types are available
with minimal programming effort.
4. User ability to interrupt and control the X event. By controlling
the X event loop, when the user use the mouse to manipulate the plot
the user can allow CEG to control the event loop or the user can
control the event loop.
If anyone is interested in beta testing either of the products, please
contact Wendy Hou at Visual Numerics via email at hou@imsl.com or call
713-279-1066.
--
Jaclyn Brandt
jbrandt@NeoSoft.com
--
|
7569 | From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Subject: Re: Islam And Scientific Predictions (was Re: Genocide is Caused by Atheism)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu
In article <1993Apr19.231641.21652@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
>The positive aspect of this verse noted by Dr. Maurice Bucaille is that
>while geocentrism was the commonly accepted notion at the time (and for
>a long time afterwards), there is no notion of geocentrism in this verse
>(or anywhere in the Qur'an).
There is no notion of heliocentric, or even galacticentric either.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"My sole intention was learning to fly."
|
7570 | From: mcc@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu (George McClintock)
Subject: Re: XDM & DECnet ?
In-Reply-To: mahan@TGV.COM's message of 21 Apr 1993 00:59:04 -0400
Organization: Graduate School and University Center, C.U.N.Y, New York
Lines: 24
While I cannot answer questions about running XDM over a DECnet, I can
say that the following defines must be added to the site.def before
building R5 before any X clients will work over a DECnet.
From site.def
#define ConnectionFlags -DTCPCONN -DUNIXCONN -DDNETCONN
#define ExtraLibraries -ldnet
Hoping this helps,
George
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|
7571 | From: dave@angmar.llnl.gov (Dave Fuess)
Subject: WinQVT/Net V3.4?
Article-I.D.: lorien.354
Distribution: usa
Organization: UC LLNL
Lines: 11
Nntp-Posting-Host: angmar.llnl.gov
An earlier article in this newsgroup made reference to
WinQVT/Net version 3.4. Realy? Where? I tried archie
with no luck. It's probably just a typo.
But I sure would like to get one if it's real as I too
have a printer problem in WinQVT.
--
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | David A. Fuess
_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ | Dir, Center for EECS
_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ | Phone: (510)423-2436
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ | Fax: (510)422-9343
|
7572 | From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
Subject: Re: WP-PCF, Linux, RISC?
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Lines: 47
leebr@ecf.toronto.edu (LEE BRIAN) writes:
: In article <1qu8ud$2hd@sunb.ocs.mq.edu.au> eugene@mpce.mq.edu.au writes:
: >In article <C5o1yq.M34@csie.nctu.edu.tw> ghhwang@csie.nctu.edu.tw (ghhwang) writes:
: >>
: >>Dear friend,
: >> The RISC means "reduced instruction set computer". The RISC usually has
: >>small instruction set so as to reduce the circuit complex and can increase
: >>the clock rate to have a high performance. You can read some books about
: >>computer architecture for more information about RISC.
: >
: >hmm... not that I am an authority on RISC ;-) but I clearly remember
: >reading that the instruction set on RISC CPUs is rather large.
: >The difference is in addressing modes - RISC instruction sets are not
: >as orthogonal is CISC.
The original RISCs had small instruction sets, and simple ones. The
idea was that a) every instruction should be completable in a single
clock cycle and b) to have no microcode and c) extensive pipelines.
A few comparisons (from Patterson: Reduced Instruction set computers.
CACM V28. 1, 1985):
CPU Year Instructions Microcode
--- ---- ------------ ---------
IBM 370/168 1973 208 420Kb
DEC VAX 11/780 1978 303 480Kb
IBM 801 1980 120 0
UCB RISC 1 1982 39 0
Stanford MIPS 1983 55 0
While researching for the VLSI VAX, DEC discovered that 60% of the VAX
microcode is there to support 20% of the instruction set which
accounted for a mere 0.2% of all instructions executed. The uVAX 32
subsetted the architecture onto a single chip and used a software
emulator for these very complex instructions, the full VLSI uVAX
included the entire instruction set, was 5-10 times more copmlex but
only ranm 20% faster.
CPU Chips Microcode Transistors
--- ----- --------- -----------
uVAX 32 2 64K 101K
VLSI uVAX 9 480K 1250K
--
Real: Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept., Camosun College, Victoria B.C.
Email: (dbarker@camosun.bc.ca)
Phone: +1 604 370 4452
|
7573 | From: acooney@netcom.com (Alan Cooney)
Subject: Re: Los Angeles Freeway traffic reports
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Lines: 48
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and word has it that
something similar is on its way here. Since we apparently
don't have the sensor base you folks have, they're installing
cameras at strategic points along the freeways (initial tests
are going to be in the Santa Clara area I'm told), with the
video being piped into a command center they're building
somewhere in the East Bay. I'm not sure if frame grabbers or
cheap labor will be used to interpret the data, but large
multi-colored status displays will show the various routes
using different colors to represent the various average speeds
for each stretch of highway. An announcer will sit in front
of the status 'wall', and will relay continuous verbal traffic
status to those who want to receive it. They're apparently also
looking into licensing a low-AM frequency to be dedicated to
providing continuous audio from this system.
In the mean time, they'll set up large incandescent display
boards along the test stretch to provide commuters with data
on traffic conditions up ahead. My understanding is that the
system is subsidized as a pilot program, and information from it
will be available free of charge. Perhaps the LA system is
similarly free or provided at an obviously subsidized rate (read
"cheap").
We also have the traffic reports that are broadcast on the SAP
audio channel of television channels 2 and 36. These are verbal
reports, qualified with a identification tone to tell in-vehicle
receivers like the 'Auto Talk' that the information coming next is
applicable to a given area. In LA, they're probably using some
other TV channels, but the concept is the same. Try setting your
stereo TV or VCR to receive the SAP audio channel, and go station
jumping to find out which one is broadcasting this information.
I believe this program is also subsidized, making the in-vehicle
receivers cheap to purchase (and without having to incur monthly
fees to use it). Since the makers of these in-vehicle receivers
don't have to pay for the broadcast (this may not be completely
true), they likely have no investment in keeping the system
up and running when the Cal Trans stuff hits the airwaves. You
may have a nifty little TV audio receiver in your car, nothing
more, when this happens. Perhaps a word to the wise...? ;)
I think we'd all be interested in a summary post if you get more
info on how the LA system is networked and paid for.
Cheers,
Alan
<acooney@netcom.com>
|
7574 | From: brucek@Ingres.COM (Bruce Kleinman)
Subject: Re: Best record ever in baseball
Article-I.D.: pony.1993Apr6.195932.20451
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ingres Corporation, A subsidiary of The ASK Group, Inc.
Lines: 5
In article <1psl0jINNam3@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> admiral@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Steve C Liu) writes:
>Of all teams, I believe the Cubs have the best record ever in baseball.
>Sometime way far back. 110+ and something.
I think it was the 1954 Cleveland Indians with 111.
|
7575 | From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Subject: Re: Jews can't hide from keith@cco.
Organization: sgi
Lines: 16
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com
In article <C51DAq.2Fqs@austin.ibm.com>, karner@austin.ibm.com (F. Karner) writes:
>
> So, you consider the german poster's remark anti-semitic?
When someone says:
"So after 1000 years of sightseeing and roaming around its
ok to come back, kill Palastinians, and get their land back,
right?"
Yes, that's casual antisemitism. I can think of plenty of ways
to criticize Israeli policy without insulting Jews or Jewish history.
Can't you?
jon
|
7576 | From: thornley@milli.cs.umn.edu (David H. Thornley)
Subject: Re: Minnesota Pitching
Nntp-Posting-Host: milli.cs.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Lines: 37
In article <snelson3.8.0@uwsuper.edu> snelson3@uwsuper.edu (SCOTT R. NELSON) writes:
>The rotation has changed due to a "strange" injury to Scott Erickson. He
>developed a twinge in the stomach area and has been taken out of the
>rotation. New rotation (to the best of my mind's knowledge) is:
>Kevin Tapani, Jim Deshais, Pat Mahomes, Willie Banks.
>
Add Mike Trombley in there somewhere, since they need five people. Mark
Guthrie will remain in the bullpen as the long lefty.
>As to SS and 3B:
>Short will be played by Scott Leius who played short for much of his career
>before the Twins. At third Mike Pagliarulo and Jeff Reboulet will platoon.
>
Pags and Terry Jorgenson will platoon at third, with Reboulet as the
backup infielder. Pags looked pretty miserable yesterday for a guy who
lead the league in DA in 1991, muffing what should be routine grounders
(heck, muffing a grounder *I* would probably have gotten to). Jorgenson
did nothing exceptional that I noticed. Leius missed a ball I *think*
Gagne would have reached; we will certainly miss Gag's glove this season.
>Winfield has struggled during preseason. Sunday against the Colorado
>Rockies he went 2 for 3 with 2 RBIs and scored once.
>
He looked pretty good there. Contrary to what the mediots have been saying,
he looked reasonable at first. He isn't mid-80s Hrbek, but then neither is
the Pretty Big Guy himself any more (note: I'm used to seeing the Twins
1B looking kinda big on the field, but not that big!). If he hits vaguely
like last year, he's a perfectly good first baseman.
Note: Much of this posting is from personal observation yesterday in a game
where the regulars were mostly pulled after several innings. Winfield may
have big holes in his defensive game that didn't show up (he didn't have to
pick any bad throws, for example), but I'll take what I saw so far.
David Thornley
"Have tickets, will travel to Dome"
|
7577 | From: Dan Wallach <dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu>
Subject: FAQ: Typing Injuries (1/4): Changes since last month [monthly posting]
Supersedes: <typing-injury-faq/changes_734664243@cs.berkeley.edu>
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 51
Expires: 22 May 1993 04:18:16 GMT
Reply-To: Dan Wallach <dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu
Summary: what's new and happening with Dan's FAQ and ftp archive
Originator: dwallach@elmer-fudd.cs.berkeley.edu
Archive-name: typing-injury-faq/changes
Version: $Revision: 1.3 $ $Date: 1993/04/13 04:12:33 $
This file details changes to the soda.berkeley.edu archive and summarizes
what's new in the various FAQ (frequently asked questions) documents.
This will be posted monthly, along with the full FAQ to the various net
groups. The various mailing lists will either receive the full FAQ
every month, or every third month, but will always get this file, once
per month. Phew!
============================================================================
Changes to the Typing Injuries FAQ and soda.berkeley.edu archive, this month
============================================================================
a few new files on the soda.berkeley.edu archive
the TidBITS "Caring for your wrists" document
RSI Network #11
Advice about "adverse mechanical tension"
More details about the new Apple keyboard
more info about carpal tunnel syndrome (carpal.explained)
more general info about RSI (rsi.details, rsi.physical)
marketing info on the Vertical
MacWeek article the Bat
new details on hooking a normal PC keyboard to an RS/6000
updated pricing info on the DataHand and Comfort
Half-QWERTY now available for anonymous ftp on explorer.dgp.toronto.edu
new GIF picutures!
The Apple Adjustable Keyboard
The Key Tronic FlexPro
another picture of the Kinesis
The Vertical
The Tony!
============================================================================
If you'd like to receive a copy of the FAQ and you didn't find it in the
same place you found this document, you can either send e-mail to
dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu, or you can anonymous ftp to soda.berkeley.edu
(128.32.149.19) and look in the pub/typing-injury directory.
Enjoy!
--
Dan Wallach "One of the most attractive features of a Connection
dwallach@cs.berkeley.edu Machine is the array of blinking lights on the faces
Office#: 510-642-9585 of its cabinet." -- CM Paris Ref. Manual, v6.0, p48.
|
7578 | From: gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic)
Subject: Re: Matt Militzok please read!
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Lines: 13
In article <gp2011-200493132808@m248-68.bgsu.edu>, gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu
(George Pavlic) wrote:
>
>
> Sorry to everyone for wasting space. Matt, the other day you posted that
> you were doing a mailing list of playoff stats. I lost your address.
> Please put me on that list. Thanks.
>
> George
Sorry again. I guess you need my address.
gp2011@mailserver.bgsu.edu
|
7579 | From: danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Dan Jacobson)
Subject: Re: Is there an FTP achive for USGS terrain data
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Lines: 123
diablo.UUCP!cboesel (Charles Boesel) writes:
>Is there an FTP archive for United States Geological Services (USGS)
>terrain data? If so, where?
Point your gopher client at merlot.welch.jhu.edu
and select the following directories:
--> 13. Search and Retrieve Software/
--> 8. Search and Retrieve Graphics Software and Data/
And you'll see -
--> 1. Graphics Online Bibliography (ACM SIGGRAPH)/
2. Graphics Software and Data Archives (ftp sites)/
3. Search All Graphics Information <?>
4. Search Comp.graphics FAQ <?>
5. Search Graphics Resources (Software and Data) <?>
6. Search Pictures Utilities FAQ <?>
1. Graphics Online Bibliography (ACM SIGGRAPH)/
Searches and archives of bibliographic database that covers
graphics literature for over a hundred years (served
by a gopher hole in Austria).
2. Graphics Software and Data Archives (ftp sites)/
Has links to over 70 sites around the world which
have software and/or data for computer graphics.
This can be used on its own or as a companion to the
searches found in this directory which will point you
toward software and data at various places.
3. Search All Graphics Information <?>
4. Search Comp.graphics FAQ <?>
5. Search Graphics Resources (Software and Data) <?>
6. Search Pictures Utilities FAQ <?>
These searches contain a wealth of information about
computer graphics, data, software, techniques etc...
3. Search All Graphics Information <?>
Will simply search all of the information contained
in searches 4, 5, and 6.
4. Search Comp.graphics FAQ <?>
Lets you search the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
from the Comp.graphics newsgroup compiled by John
Grieggs at the JPL.
5. Search Graphics Resources (Software and Data) <?>
Lets you search the Grpahics Resource Listing of
software and data provided by Nick Fotis at the
National Technical Univ. of Athens.
6. Search Pictures Utilities FAQ <?>
Lets you search the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
from the Alt.binaries.pixutils newsgroup compiled by
Jim Howard at Cadence.
Select:
--> 3. Search All Graphics Information <?>
And search for:
usgs
And you'll find out some information about USGS data availability.
Now select:
--> 2. Graphics Software and Data Archives (ftp sites)/
and you might find the following interesting:
--> 12. Cartographic data - USGS data (Xerox)/
--> 42. Mapgen/Plotgen and more (USGS)/
--> 68. USGS Weekly Seismicity Reports (including maps - GIF)/
--> 68. USGS Earth Science Data Directory/
(This actually is a database of available data - search
it for terrain - could prove quite useful.)
One other place to look is only available by anonymous ftp at
the moment -
US Geological Survey Maps - isdres.er.usgs.gov (130.11.48.2).
If you've never heard of gopher don't worry it's free and on the net,
write me a note if you'd like information on how to get started.
Best of luck,
Dan Jacobson
danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu
Johns Hopkins University
|
7580 | From: jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge)
Subject: Re: Some more about gun control...
Organization: Interactive Media Group - University of Massachusetts at Lowell
Lines: 76
In article <1993Apr16.171115.16812@synapse.bms.com>, hambidge@bms.com writes:
-> Actually, the words "A well regulated Milita, being necessary to the
-> security of a free state" is a present participle, used as an
-> adjective to modify 'militia', which is followed by the main clause of
-> the sentence, the subject being 'the right', the verb 'shall'. It
-> asserts that the right to keep and bear arms is essential for
-> maintaining a milita.
-> a free state.
Yes, I agree the first half of the amendment does modify the noun
militia. But the difinition of modify that applies to how "well regulated"
modifies "militia" is:
to qualify or limit the meaning of. For example, "wet"
modifes "day" in the phrase "a wet day."
The amendment is similiar to the statement:
A wet day, being annoying, the right of the people to keep
and wear boots, shall not be infringed.
So how does a dry day pertain the right to use boots? Similiar,
what does the "unorganized militia" have to due with the right to
own guns?
-> The sentence [in the Second Amendment] doesn't restrict the right, or
-> state or imply possession of the right by anyone or anything other
-> than the people. All it does is make a positive statement regarding a
-> right of the people. The PEOPLE, as in you and me, as in the First,
-> Fourth, Ninth, Tenth, as well as the Second amendment.
-> The existence of this right is assumed - it is not granted by the
-> amendment. There is no stated or implied condition relating the right
-> to bear arms to the necessity of a well-regulated militia to the security of
-> In other words, the entire sentence says that the right to keep and
-> bear arms is UNCONDITIONAL.
No not, unconditional, but "shall not be infringed". Infringed
is defined as:
To break or ignore the terms of or obligations (an oath,
an agreement, law, or the like); to disreguard; violate.
To go beyond the boundaries or limits; tresspass; encroach.
This definition implies the following of some form of existing
agreement. Laws and agreements are made in advance. Boundaries
or limits of behavior are set by society as a whole. The word
"unconditional" implies no agreements or all previous agreements
are off, which is the opposite.
The words used in the first amendment are much stronger, i.e.,
"congress shall make no law," are much stronger. They clearly
^^^^^^^^^^^
imply "unconditional." If the writers of the amendment, wanted
unconditional whay didn't they says, "congress shall make no
laws pertaining the the right of the people to keep and bear arms"?
The second amendment implies a sort contract between the people
the people and the state. The bigger part of the contract is
the people have the right to overthrew the government and its laws
at any time. To guarantee this right, the laws cannot stopped
the people from forming a "well regutaled militia." The duties
of a "well regulated militia" to the government are descussed in
Federalist No. 29. And the limits of of the governmental control
of the militia are descussed in Article I Section 8, Article II
Section 2, and the Second Amendment of the constitution.
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| Research Assistant | through the world data net. It was terribly |
| | frustrating to flip back and forth between |
| Interactive Media Group | the pages and crude flat illustrations that |
| Computer Science Department | never even moved. Nor were there animated |
| UMass - Lowell | arrows or zoom-ins. It completely lacked a |
| 1 University Ave. | for sound. |
| Lowell, MA 01854 | "Most baffling of all was the problem of new |
| | words... In normal text you'd only have to |
| (508) 934-3568 | touch an unfamiliar word and the definition |
| jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu | would pop up just below." |
| | from David Brin's "Earth" |
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|
7581 | Subject: CD ROM
From: mike.damico@cccbbs.UUCP (Mike Damico)
Reply-To: mike.damico@cccbbs.UUCP (Mike Damico)
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-1055
Lines: 2
IBM 3510-001 cd-rom drive 350ms. drive only make offer or trade.
|
7582 | From: Thomas.Enblom@eos.ericsson.se (Thomas Enblom)
Subject: NAVSTAR positions
Reply-To: Thomas.Enblom@eos.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
Lines: 16
Nntp-Posting-Host: eos8c29.ericsson.se
I've just read Richard Langley's latest "Navstar GPS Constellation Status".
It states that the latest satellite was placed in Orbit Plane Position C-3.
There is already one satellite in that position. I know that it's almost
ten years since that satellite was launched but it's still in operation so
why not use it until it goes off?
Why not instead place the new satellite at B-4 since that position is empty
and by this measure have an almost complete GPS-constellation
(23 out of 24)?
/Thomas
================================================================================
Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Thomas Enblom, just another employee.
|
7583 | From: salaris@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrabbits)
Subject: Re: Hell_2: Black Sabbath
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Lines: 25
In article <Apr.20.03.02.07.1993.3791@geneva.rutgers.edu>, REXLEX@fnal.fnal.gov writes:
> [In looking through my files this weekend, I ran across some lyrics from
> various rock groups that have content. Here are two from Black Sabbath's
> "Master of Reality". I'll say this much for the music of the '60's and early
> '70's, at least they asked questions of significance. Jethro Tull is another
> to asked and wrote about things that caused one to wonder. --Rex]
>
It is interesting that you posted those lyrics, because just the
other day I was thinking of doing the same. I like those lyrics,
since whenever I am approached by judgemental, pharisitical,
evangelical fundamentalists who throw the Bible at me because
I have long hair, wear a black leather jacket, and listen to Black
Sabbath, I have something to throw back. Usually their chins drop
and they come up speechless over those not very satanic lyrics.
It just goes to show that there are more important evils in the
world to battle than rock lyrics...........
--
Steven C. Salaris We're...a lot more dangerous than 2 Live Crew
salaris@carcs1.wustl.edu and their stupid use of foul language because
we have ideas. We have a philosophy.
Geoff Tate -- Queensryche
|
7584 | From: lfoard@hopper.Virginia.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: ITC/UVA Community Access UNIX/Internet Project
Lines: 16
In article <1993Apr22.065357.9667@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) writes:
[article deleted]
>
>Just doing a quick reality check here - is this for real or did someone
>invent it to provoke a reaction from people? It sounds more like the
>sort of thing you'd have heard, suitably rephrased, from the leader of a
>certain German political party in the 1930's....
It sounds like a joke (but then the war on drugs has always been a joke...).
--
------ Join the Pythagorean Reform Church! .
\ / Repent of your evil irrational numbers . .
\ / and bean eating ways. Accept 10 into your heart! . . .
\/ Call the Pythagorean Reform Church BBS at 508-793-9568 . . . .
|
7585 | From: maridai@comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio)
Subject: Re: What WAS the immaculate conception?
Organization: trunking_fixed
Lines: 111
Note: I am cross-posting (actually, emailing) this to
bit.listserv.catholic while main posting goes to
soc.religion.christian.
[Quotations omitted. This is in response to a question about
the Immaculate Conception. I explained it, but left justification
up to our Catholic readers. --clh]
There is no direct reference in the Holy Scripture except for the
mention of Mary's _blessedness_/full of grace in the "Annunciation" by
Angel Gabriel in Luke 1:26-28
And in the 6th month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto
a city of Galilee, named Nazareth. To a virgin espoused to a
man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's
name was Mary. And the angel came unto her and said, _"Hail,
thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed
art thou among women."_
Now, now, hold that line of thought - "the Lord is with Mary &
blessed art thou among women" - while you read on....
In the book, "First Lady of the World, A Popular History of
Devotion to Mary" by Peter Lappin:
The _Immaculate Conception_ matter is really far more complicated
than the _Assumption_. This arose in 430 AD. It is quite possible
that the feast of _Mary's Conception_ under the title "The Conception
of Saint Anne", originally commemorated the _physical miracle_ of
a woman _beyond the age_ of child bearing, conceiving a daughter,
just as Elizabeth had conceived John the Baptist. A transfer in
emphasis from the physical miracle wrought in Anne to the miracle
of grace wrought by God in the soul of Mary was _logical_. Mary
is the incorruptible timber "out of which was hewn the _tabernacle_
of Christ's sinless body"; she is "God's Eden, in whom there is
no tree of knowledge, and no serpent that harms." Her perfect
beauty and spotlessness find their exemplar in Christ, her
purity in that of the Father. At the time of the Council of Ephesus,
she was hailed as "innocent, without blemish, immaculate, inviolate,
spotless, holy in soul and body, who was blessed as a lily from
among thorns, unlearned in the evil ways of Eve".
...
At the end of the thirteenth century, an Irish Franciscan,
John Duns Scotus (1266-1308),...God maintained that it was a
greater thing for Him to preserve His (the Son) mother from all
sin _than to use His power to clease her from it later_.
...
Now let's go to the discussion of baptism and original sin.
From "Pocket Catholic Cathechism" by John A. Hardon:
Baptism -
Concupiscence Remains after Baptism.
Concupiscence or the tendency to sin remains in the baptized
but since it is left to provide trial, it has no power to
injure those who do not consent and who by the grace of
Christ Jesus, manfully resist (Canon 5).
Original gifts of Adam and Eve before their fall:
In the light of the foregoing, we see that our first
parents were originally gifted three times over:
-They had the natural gifts of human beings especially the
power to think and to choose freely.
-The had the _preternatural_ gifts of bodily immortality
and of integrity, or the internal power to control desires.
-They had the _supernatural_ gifts of sanctifying grace,
the virtues of faith, hope, and charity and the corresponding
title to enter heaven.
By their disobedience, they lost the _supernatural and
preternatural_ gifts entirely, and were weakened (without
losing) their natural capacity to reason and to choose
freely.
Baptism restores the _supernatural_ life lost by Adam's
sin. It _does not_ restore the _preternatural_ gifts
but gifts as a title to a glorified restoration of our
bodies on the last day...
Going back to _Immaculate Conception_
(I am not sure if this interpretation is in any other
books but it may be another contribution to the 'puzzle'):
Given the miracle of St. Anne bearing a child at a
non-childbearing age, AND Christ was not yet born
AND _there was no baptism yet_ on Mary's birth but
STILL, the Angel Gabriel's greetings was:
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you.
Blessed art thou amongst women".
Even Mary was confused about this greeting.
Mary could very well have possessed all of the
_treefold original gifts above_ given to our first
parents (Adam and Eve before their sin):
Hail Mary (Example of praise given by the Angel Gabriel)
Full of grace (natural, preternatural, supernatural)
The Lord is with you (At those times, God would
definitely want to be with those He
has made _blessed_)
Blessed art thou amongst women (that says it all)
At the conception, God made Mary _full of grace
and blessed_ as the 'tabernacle' for the coming body
of Christ and so,
Immaculate Conception of Mary is true and Mary still
has maintained her Immaculate Heart.
-Marida
(P.S. I do hope that others will continue more
light and facts on this matter. Thanks.)
|
7586 | From: jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge)
Subject: Re: Some more about gun control...
Organization: Interactive Media Group - University of Massachusetts at Lowell
Lines: 146
In article <1993Apr16.010235.14225@mtu.edu>, cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter) writes:
-> > This mention of a well regulated militia is what confuses me. According
-> > to the Federalist Paper's, a well regulated militia has a well defined
-> > structure and follows nationally uniform regulations.
->
-> Perhaps you should actually READ the Federalist Papers!!
Perhaps you should, reread Federal 29 which deals exclusively with the
"well regulated malitia." Here is what is says about its character:
To oblige the great body of the yeomanry, and of the other classes
of the citizens, to be under arms for the purpose of going through
military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to
acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the
character of a well-regulated militia,
It also talks about the "well regulated militia" having a nationally
uniform in structure and disipline.
I will note you did quote the end of this particular paragraph which states:
Little more can reasonably be aimed at, with
respect to the people at large, than to have them properly armed
and equipped; and in order to see that this be not neglected, it
will be necessary to assemble them once or twice in the course of
a year.
But, do you knew how much organization is required to training a large
group of poeple twice a year. Just to try to get the same people
every year, provide a basic training to new people so they can
be integrated into the force, and find a suitable location, it
requires a continually standing committee of organizers.
Since a well regulate militia is nationally uniform in structure and
disipline, and meet once or twice a year to train, how can you claim
a "well regulated militia" is not well organized. But I will concide
a "well organized militia" is not necessarily a "well regulated militia."
Several people have stated that the "well organized militia" is
what is defined under 10 USC 311, which states
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied
males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in
section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are,
or who have made a declaration of intention to become,
citizens of the United States and of female citizents of
the United States who are commissioned officers of the
National Guard.
This deos define the militia, but were is the adjective "well regulated."
10 USC 311 does not define a "well regualed militia" in any way, shape,
or form. It only defines who can become part of a well regulated militia
The Federalist Papers CLEARLY define the "well regualed militia" as a
proper SUBSET of the militia. In the same paragraph quoted above, it
talk above "disciplining all the militia of the United States" so they
fit the "character of a well-regulated militia." This is what the
paragraph states about the associated costs:
It would form an annual deduction from the productive labor
of the country, to an amount which, calculating upon the
present numbers of the people, would not fall far short
of the whole expense of the civil establishments of all
the States. To attempt a thing which would abridge the
mass of labor and industry to so considerable an extent,
would be unwise: and the experiment, if made, could not
succeed, because it would not long be endured.
Another quote provide by Charles Scripter is:
James Madison, Federalist Paper 41 (regarding the "General Welfare" clause):
"Nothing is more natural nor common than first
to use a general phrase, and then to explain and qualify it by a
recital of particulars."
So the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
not be infringed" must either qualify or explain the phrase "a well
regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state."
The definition of "explain" as stated in "The American Hertitage
Dictionary of the Enlish Language" The New College Edition, 1982 is:
1) To make plain or comprehensible; remove obscruity from;
elucidate: "It was the economists who undertook to explain
this puzzle"
2) To define; explicate; expound: He explained his plan.
3) To offer reasons for or a cause of; an answer for' justify:
explain an error
The second phrase clearly does not "explain" the first, therefore
the second phrase must "qualify" the first. The definition given
for "qualify" is:
1) To describe by enumerating the characteristics or qualities
of; characterize.
2) To make competent or suitable for office, position, or
task.
3) To give legal power to; make legally capable.
4) To modify, limit, or restrict, as giving exceptions.
5) To make less harsh or severe; moderate
6) Grammar: To modify the meaning of (a word or phrase)
Since "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
infringed" does not describe, modify or make less harsh anything and
it has nothing to do with grammar or some sort of position or task.
By process of elimination it must fall into definition #3. And since
#3 deals with legal power, the same thing the Constitution does, it
must be the correct definition in this case. Therefore, "the right
of the people to keep and bear Arms" gives legal power to the "well
regualated militia" and this legal power "shall not be infringed".
I thank you very much Mr Scripter, you have provided me with more
evidence that the Second Amendment only concerns itseft with the
people's right to form well regulate militia, and says very little
about the right of an untrained person to "keep and bear" a .50 caliber
machine gun. And since I, totally untrained in the use of any firearm
(something I personly have meant to correct by going to a NRA gun
safety course and joining a gun club), cannot legally buy such a machine
gun, I conclude the courts and democraticly elected congress agree with
me.
-> So now we know which category Mr. Rutledge is in; He means to destroy
-> our Liberties and Rights.
I mean "to destory our Liberties and Rights." Is that why a participate
in the discussion of exactly what "our Libertues and Rights" are? I
force my version of "our Liberties and Rights" by begining statements
of what "our Liberties and Rights" with "All that the Second Amendment
clearly states to me." Using expressions, such as "states to me,"
clearly mean I intend to force my views on others? I don't think so.
So in effort not to force my views and not "to destory our Liberties and
Rights," I state that nothing I have written, or will write, in
the matter of "Liberties and Rights" is the final word. For I am only
one person among many and the final word on "Liberties and Rights" cleary
and irrevocably belongs to the many.
+-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| | "If only it were a modern document, with a |
| John Lawrence Rutledge | smart index and hyper links stretching all |
| Research Assistant | through the world data net. It was terribly |
| | frustrating to flip back and forth between |
| Interactive Media Group | the pages and crude flat illustrations that |
| Computer Science Department | never even moved. Nor were there animated |
| UMass - Lowell | arrows or zoom-ins. It completely lacked a |
| 1 University Ave. | for sound. |
| Lowell, MA 01854 | "Most baffling of all was the problem of new |
| | words... In normal text you'd only have to |
| (508) 934-3568 | touch an unfamiliar word and the definition |
| jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu | would pop up just below." |
| | from David Brin's "Earth" |
+-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
|
7587 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: >>>>>>Pompous ass
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 9
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
>>Then why do people keep asking the same questions over and over?
>Because you rarely ever answer them.
Nope, I've answered each question posed, and most were answered multiple
times.
keith
|
7588 | From: brock@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bradley W. Brock)
Subject: Re: Tribune & Times
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Lines: 20
Reply-To: brock@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bradley W. Brock)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g210b-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
In article <C5C9JA.AMB@unix.amherst.edu> ddsokol@unix.amherst.edu (D. DANIEL
SOKOL) writes:
> pjtier01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu wrote:
> >
> > Is the Chicago Tribune baseball coverage any good? Does the New York Times
> > have daily coverage/boxscores?
>
> I don't know about the Tribune but the Times has daily coverage and
boxscores.
> Of course, they have special emphasis on the Yankees and Mets
Beware. The original poster looks to be from Louisville, and chances are
Louisville gets the edition of the NYTimes that is printed in Chicago for the
MidWest. This edition has boxscores only on Monday (and Sunday) and an
extremely skimpy sports section (few game summaries, mostly just color
stories).
--
Bradley W. Brock, Department of Mathematics
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology | "Resist not evil.... Love your enemies."
brock@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu | --some Nazarene carpenter
|
7589 | From: aa624@Freenet.carleton.ca (Suat Kiniklioglu)
Subject: THE FUTILITY AND IMPOTENCE OF GREEK FOREIGN POLICY
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Lines: 34
there you go the greeks have been trying for over a year, even though
mr. mitsotakis was threatening the EC that if Macedonia was recognized
that the honourable papandreou would be back...
well i guess the europeans pulled the plug eh ..? theis is just one
other example about the corruptness and the "perversity" of greek
foreign policy objectives...
pity to those who have to live under the greek flag with "these"
political decision-makers...
MORE RECOGNITION FOR MACEDONIA. Belgium, Germany, and Italy joined
Denmark on 15 April in recognizing the Republic of Macedonia, AFP
reports. Each is an EC member state. Greece, which has blocked EC
recognition of Macedonia, noted that such recognition "does not
facilitate" negotiations between Athens and Skopje now underway in
New York. Duncan Perry, RFE/RL, Inc.
the day will come when reuters will write "despite lengthy negotiations
and numerous attempts to reunite the island THE TURKISH REPUBLIC
OF NORTHERN CYPRUS " was recognized by...
your humble servant kubilay
|
7590 | From: damelio@progress.COM (Stephen D'Amelio)
Subject: Re: Changing oil by self.
Nntp-Posting-Host: elba
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Lines: 34
hanguyen@megatest.com (Ha Nguyen) writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.203800.12566@progress.com> damelio@progress.COM (Stephen D'Amelio) writes:
>>bmoss@grinch.sim.es.com (Brent "Woody" Moss) writes:
>>
>>>You could take a screw driver and hammer and start punching holes in
>>>various locations and when some black slippery stuff starts pouring
>>>out then you would know that the oil drain plug is nearby (within a foot
>>>or two anyway). Close the holes with toilet paper before refileing with oil
>>>though.
>>
>>You have to *refill* the engine with oil! Wow, no wonder I can't get
>>an engine to last more than my first oil change. Don't forget to
>>punch holes in the radiator too, it will spray nice refreshing water
> ^^^^^^^^
>>on the engine and keep it nice & cool. ;-)
>>
>>-Steve
>Gee, you really make me confused. What is radiator? Where is it located?
>What does it look like? Will it release any radiation (since it sounds
>like radia-tion genera-tor) when you punch holes?
Of course it releases radiation! Thats why your car goes faster when
you punch the holes in it. All that radiation gets on your engine
and gives it "pep" (scientific term). You get more horsepower &
torque too! If you don't know what HP & torque are, you can read
mile long threads on the subject, but they are all wrong. Horsepower
is how much power a horse can make pulling a Subaru, and torque is
a name invented by Craftsman for a wrench.
-Steve
|
7591 | From: kevin@kosman.uucp (Kevin O'Gorman)
Subject: Date is stuck
Organization: Vital Software Services, Oxnard, CA
Lines: 15
Anybody seen the date get stuck?
I'm running MS-DOS 5.0 with a menu system alive all the time. The machine
is left running all the time.
Suddenly, the date no longer rolls over. The time is (reasonably) accurate
allways, but we have to change the date by hand every morning. This involves
exiting the menu system to get to DOS.
Anyone have the slightest idea why this should be? Even a clue as to whether
the hardware (battery? CMOS?) or DOS is broken?
--
Kevin O'Gorman ( kevin@kosman.UUCP, kevin%kosman.uucp@nrc.com )
voice: 805-984-8042 Vital Computer Systems, 5115 Beachcomber, Oxnard, CA 93035
Non-Disclaimer: my boss is me, and he stands behind everything I say.
|
7592 | From: u96_msopher@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu
Subject: With a surge in the last two weeks...
Lines: 24
Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, lend me your ears for but a moment,
The National Legue Eastern Division Champions will be the...
Philadelphia Phillies
I one hundred and ten percent guarantee!!!
Chamberlain Hollins Dykstra Incaviglia Jackson Williams
Daulton Greene Kruk Mulholland Rivera Thompson Duncan
Watch us soar in 1993!
|
7593 | From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Big amateur rockets
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 30
In article <C5Ky9y.MKK@raistlin.udev.cdc.com> pbd@runyon.cim.cdc.com (Paul Dokas) writes:
>Anyhow, the ad stated that they'd sell rockets that were up to 20' in length
>and engines of sizes "F" to "M". They also said that some rockets will
>reach 50,000 feet.
>
>Now, aside from the obvious dangers to any amateur rocketeer using one
>of these beasts, isn't this illegal? I can't imagine the FAA allowing
>people to shoot rockets up through the flight levels of passenger planes.
The situation in this regard has changed considerably in recent years.
See the discussion of "high-power rocketry" in the rec.models.rockets
frequently-asked-questions list.
This is not hardware you can walk in off the street and buy; you need
proper certification. That can be had, mostly through Tripoli (the high-
power analog of the NAR), although the NAR is cautiously moving to extend
the upper boundaries of what it considers proper too.
You need special FAA authorization, but provided you aren't doing it under
one of the LAX runway approaches or something stupid like that, it's not
especially hard to arrange.
As with model rocketry, this sort of hardware is reasonably safe if handled
properly. Proper handling takes more care, and you need a lot more empty
air to fly in, but it's basically just model rocketry scaled up. As with
model rocketry, the high-power people use factory-built engines, which
eliminates the major safety hazard of do-it-yourself rocketry.
--
All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
|
7594 | From: weilej@cary115.its.rpi.edu (Jason Lee Weiler)
Subject: Re: need a viewer for gl files
Nntp-Posting-Host: cary115.its.rpi.edu
Reply-To: weilej@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Lines: 17
In article <1qu36i$kh7@dux.dundee.ac.uk>, dwestner@cardhu.mcs.dundee.ac.uk (Dominik Westner) writes:
|> Hi,
|>
|> the subject says it all. Is there a PD viewer for gl files (for X)?
|>
|> Thanks
|>
|>
|> Dominik
|>
Dominik,
Have you tried xgrasp? It's out there on several ftp sites.(not sure which, but archie can find it, I'm sure.) It works ok but it lacks an interface.
-Jason Weiler
<weilej@rpi.edu>
|
7595 | From: bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse)
Subject: NHL RESULTS FOR GAMES PLAYED 4-14-93
Organization: AT&T
Keywords: wednesday night's boxscores
Lines: 138
NHL RESULTS FOR GAMES PLAYED 4/14/93.
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STANDINGS
PATRICK ADAMS NORRIS SMYTHE
TM W L T PT TM W L T PT TM W L T PT TM W L T PT
xPIT 56 21 7 119 xBOS 51 26 7 109 xCHI 46 25 12 104 xVAN 45 29 9 99
yWAS 42 34 7 91 yQUE 47 27 10 104 yDET 46 28 9 101 yCAL 42 30 11 95
yNJ 40 36 7 87 yMON 48 30 6 102 yTOR 44 28 11 99 yLA 39 34 10 88
yNYI 39 37 7 85 yBUF 38 35 10 86 STL 36 36 11 83 yWIN 39 37 7 85
PHL 34 37 11 79 HAR 26 51 6 58 MIN 36 37 10 82 EDM 26 49 8 60
NYR 34 38 11 79 OTT 10 70 4 24 TB 23 53 7 53 SJ 11 70 2 24
x - Clinched Division Title
y - Clinched Playoff Berth
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Boston Bruins (51-26-7) 2 2 0 - 4
Ottawa Senators (10-70-4) 0 1 1 - 2
1st period: BOS, Roberts 5 - (Juneau) 7:19
BOS, Wiemer 1 - (Juneau, Oates) 17:47
2nd period: BOS, Neely 11 - (Juneau, Murphy) 6:10
BOS, Hughes 5 - (Richer, Kimble) 7:55
OTT, Archibald 9 - (Rumble, Lamb) 11:37
3rd period: OTT, Boschman 9 - (Kudelski) 5:10
Powerplay Opportunities-Bruins 0 of 2
Senators 0 of 4
Shots on Goal- Bruins 13 11 10 - 34
Senators 5 9 12 - 26
Boston Bruins--Moog (36-14-3) (8 shots - 8 saves) Blue (9:38 second)
(18 shots - 16 saves)
Ottawa Senators--Sidorkiewicz (8-46-3) (27 shots - 23 saves) Berthiaume
(6:36 third) (7 shots - 7 saves)
ATT-10,500
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Washington Capitals (42-34-7) 0 0 2 - 2
New York Rangers (34-38-11) 0 0 0 - 0
1st period: NONE
2nd period: NONE
3rd period: WAS, Bondra 36 - (Pivonka, Cavallini) 6:54
WAS, Bondra 37 - (Cote, Pivonka) 10:10
Powerplay Opportunities-Capitals 0 of 2
Rangers 0 of 1
Shots on Goal- Capitals 16 11 12 - 39
Rangers 8 7 8 - 23
Washington Capitals--Tabaracci (7-11-0) (23 shots - 23 saves)
New York Rangers--Richter (13-17-3) (39 shots - 37 saves)
ATT-17,897
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New York Islanders (39-37-7) 2 1 1 0 - 4
Hartford Whalers (26-51-6) 2 1 1 1 - 5
1st period: NYI, Ferraro 13 - (Malakhov, King) 1:29
NYI, Hogue 32 - (Thomas, Turgeon) 1:57
HAR, Yake 21 - (Poulin) 4:15
HAR, Yake 22 - (Nylander, Poulin) 16:44
2nd period: HAR, Verbeek 39 - (Cassels, Weinrich) (pp) 2:43
NYI, Thomas 35 - (King, Ferraro) 7:58
3rd period: HAR, Burt 5 - (Sanderson, Cassels) 13:41
NYI, Malakhov 14 - (Hogue) 17:45
Overtime: HAR, Janssens 12 - (Poulin) 1:08
Powerplay Opportunities-Islanders 0 of 3
Whalers 1 of 3
Shots on Goal- Islanders 16 8 7 1 - 32
Whalers 7 13 7 1 - 28
New York Islanders--Fitzpatrick (16-15-5) (28 shots - 23 saves)
Hartford Whalers--Lenaduzzi (1-0-1) (32 shots - 28 saves)
ATT-10,915
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Pittsburgh Penguins (56-21-7) 2 3 1 0 - 6
New Jersey Devils (40-36-7) 2 4 0 0 - 6
1st period: PIT, Daniels 5 - (Needham, Tippett) 4:14
NJD, C.Lemieux 29 - (Semak, Driver) 10:19
PIT, K.Stevens 55 - (Tocchet, Murphy) (pp) 12:40
NJD, Zelepukin 22 - (Driver, Niedermayer) 17:26
2nd period: PIT, M.Lemieux 68 - (Stevens, Tocchet) 1:42
NJD, Semak 36 - (C.Lemieux, Zelepukin) 2:27
PIT, McEachern 28 - (Jagr, Barrasso) 4:24
NJD, S.Stevens 12 - (Guerin, Pellerin) 5:45
PIT, M.Lemieux 69 - (sh) 12:40
NJD, Richer 37 - (Nicholls) 15:53
NJD, C.Lemieux 30 - (Semak, Zelepukin) 17:40
3rd period: PIT, Mullen 33 - (Jagr, M.Lemieux) 18:54
Overtime: NONE
Powerplay Opportunities-Penguins 1 of 5
Devils 0 of 3
Shots on Goal- Penguins 9 11 8 2 - 30
Devils 12 15 9 3 - 39
Pittsburgh Penguins--Barrasso (43-14-5) (39 shots - 33 saves)
New Jersey Devils--Billington (21-14-4) (30 shots - 24 saves)
ATT-14,796
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|
7596 | From: jeq@lachman.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Should liability insurance be required?
Nntp-Posting-Host: birdie.i88.isc.com
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Lines: 34
In article <1993Apr14.215154.20143@Newbridge.COM> bradw@Newbridge.COM (Brad Warkentin) writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.144151.11137@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>>(Sorry, I lost the attributions.
>>|In most areas, drivers are required to show proof of financial
>>|responsibility, which usually means insurance.
>>
>>Required how? When they get pulled over? Most drivers, bellyaching on the
>>net aside, don't get pulled over and checked. The laws are enforceable
>>only after the fact, in which case often somebody is out a lot of money.
>
>Don't you have any requirement for yearly plate stickers in the US???? In
>Ontario and Manitoba for sure and the other provinces (i think) you have
>to show proof of insurnace when you renew your plate (ie get a new sticker).
Yes. Unfortunately, there is also the concept that the owner of a car
is not responsible for the actions of any (authorized) user of the car.
That's one of the biggest arguments against photo-radar ticketing
systems.
>You also get to pay all outstanding tickets. They even have cross province
>agreements (at least between Ontario and Quebec) so that unpaid tickets in
>the other province are on record. No having an up to date sticker is a) bad
Trouble with that is, you then have no recourse if a mis-issued ticket
or a clerical error on a computer follow you around. The City of Chicago
(the informal motto of which being "The City the Works") issues dozens
of parking tickets each year to people who have never set foot (or tire)
in the city.
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7597 | From: khan0095@nova.gmi.edu (Mohammad Razi Khan)
Subject: Re: Doing the work of God??!!)
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
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hedrick@cs.rutgers.edu writes:
>down these distinctions. In him there is neither Jew nor Greek, there
>is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female. If
>Moslems do not know him, we may preach to them, but we don't kill
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As a muslim (spelled sometimes as Moslem) I must say that Muslims strong
ly believe in Jesus. Refered in islamic text as eesau(as)
Jesus ==> J - esu - s ===> esu (pronounced eee-saw)
Yah we knew him well. Ideally, this war should not even be. And even in
a time of war, our goal is peace. We should try to refrain from viloating
the peace of others as then if we do violate, we will not have peace in
ourselves. I don't like this war eaither, It is a conflict of territory.
Croats, Muslims, and Serbs lived together before in peace. The rallying
point is 'race'. And Im sure that there is a General out there who wouldn't
mind being a president.
--
Mohammad R. Khan / khan0095@nova.gmi.edu
After July '93, please send mail to mkhan@nyx.cs.du.edu
[From a Christian perspective, Moslem ideas about Jesus look rather
seriously erroneous. I've generally tried to avoid discussions of
Islam in this group, since soc.religion.islam is the right place for
that. Thus I don't much want to go into detail. I will simply note
that Moslems reject most of what Christians regard as the most
essential facts about Jesus. So at least from a Christian perspective
Moslems don't know Jesus. Again, this is no justification for
Christians to hate Moslems or to kill them. I agree with you that
this war should never be. --clh]
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7598 | From: hampton@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Kevin Podsiadlik)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Excuses for Slick Willie's Record-Setting Disapproval Rati
Organization: UMCC, Ann Arbor, MI
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NNTP-Posting-Host: umcc.umcc.umich.edu
In article <2671@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:
>shapiro@sofbas.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro) writes:
>:
>: Oh, and BTW, its William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.
>
>No, it's not- and I really fail to understand the use of that name
>as an insult. Do you feel that being adopted implies some sort of
>moral failing?
No, it's a sign of aristocrtic out-of-touchness with the middle
class. You ask George Herbert Walker Bush about that.
And that's not his full name? What, then, is it?
---
"Even Quayle had his honeymoon period. It lasted a full 48 hours
after he was chosen as Bush's running mate."
--
Kevin J. Podsiadlik |
Vaporware Engineer 2nd class | "This 'contribution' the President wants
E-mail: hampton@ais.org | us to make... is it tax deductible?"
CompuServe: 71460,3602 | -- Larry Wright
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7599 | From: asiivo@cs.joensuu.fi (Antti Siivonen)
Subject: Re: Part 1 and part 2 (re: Homosexuality)
Organization: University of Joensuu
Lines: 9
Long time, no see.
Andreas
--
Andreas - Siperian Sirri Siberian Stint
No ITU, love, evolution. Tuusniemi ! Siis imein suut !
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