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7600 | From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)
Subject: Re: Sabbath Admissions 5of5
Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 34
All of the arguments concerning the Sabbath ought to make the point
pretty clear - anyone outside of the Catholic or Orthodox orAnglican or
Monophysite churches ourght to worship on Saturday if they are really
sola scriptura. Otherwise, they are following a law put into effect by
the Church, and only the above Chruches really recognize any power of
the Chruch to do so.
Andy Byler
[You will note that nothing in the FAQ said anything about the Church
establishing or changing a law. The argument against the Sabbath is
that it is part of the ceremonial law, and like the rest of the
ceremonial law is not binding on Christians. This argument is based
on Paul's letters, Acts, and in a more general sense, Jesus'
teachings. Further, most people argue that Scripture shows worship
occuring on Sunday, and Paul endorsing it. I understand that these
points are disputed, and do not want to go around the dispute one more
time. The point I'm making here is not that these arguments are
right, but that the backing they claim is Scripture.
Accepting the principle of "sola scriptura" does not commit us to
obeying the entire Jewish Law. Acts 15 and Paul's letters are quite
clear on that. I think even the SDA's accept it. The disagreement is
on where the Bible would have us place the line.
By the way, Protestants do give authority to the church, in matters
that are not dictated by God. That's why churches are free to
determine their own liturgies, church polity, etc. If you accept that
the Sabbath is not binding on Christians, then the day of worship
falls into the category of items on which individual Christians or
(since worship is by its nature a group activity) churches are free to
decide.
--clh]
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7601 | From: shapiro-david@yale.edu (David Shapiro)
Subject: Re: And America's Team is....But Why?
Organization: What, me organized?
Lines: 21
Distribution: na
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NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu
In-reply-to: steinman@me.utoronto.ca's message of Sun, 18 Apr 1993 21:13:02 GMT
In article <C5p6xq.GuI@me.utoronto.ca> steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) writes:
cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes:
> The defenition of the Underdog is a team that has no talent and comes
>out of nowhere to contend. The '69 Mets and '89 Orioles are prime examples,
>not the Cubs.
Sorry, but it is *virtually* impossible to win a division with "no talent"
over 162 games.
Well, with players, certainly. However, it is quite possible to win
it all with no managerial talent. Cf. Blue Jays, 1992.
David
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David Shapiro | "People can call it a monkey, but I felt like
shapiro-david@yale.edu | I had a piano on my back all winter long....
shapiro@minerva.cis.yale.edu | The piano is off my back. Maybe a trombone
| will be next." -- Stan Belinda
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7602 | Subject: Bungee After Dark module uploaded
From: ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett)
Organization: Spandex Admirers Intl.
Lines: 17
Hey folks!
Just moments ago, I uploaded the Bungee Jumper After Dark module that
was widely talked about on here some time ago.
It's at ftp.cica.indiana.edu, in /pub/pc/win3/uploads, titled simply
bungee.zip.
Be sure to set your ftp connection to binary mode before downloading.
If you have any other After Dark shareware/freeware modules, please
upload them too. The more the merrier.
Andrew
--
Andrew Bennett ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu What planet are you from?
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7603 | From: deguzman@after.math.uiuc.edu (A A DeGuzman)
Subject: Non-Apple Mini-Docks available?
Reply-To: a-deguzman@uiuc.edu
Organization: Calculus&Mathematica at UIUC
Lines: 10
My boss is considering the purchase of a Powerbook or Duo. He is leaning
towards a 180, because of the math coprocessor (for Mathematica), but would
get a Duo if he could find a Mini-Dock with a coprocessor. Have any
third-parties announced such a beast?
--
Alan A. DeGuzman "Genius is never understood in it's own time."
Calculus&Mathematica
DISCLAIMER: "The University - Calvin to Hobbes from
can't afford my opinions." 'The Indispensible Calvin and Hobbes'
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7604 | From: yerazunis@cthulu.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Hard drive security for FBI targets
Organization: Turing Police
Lines: 22
>cme@ellisun.sw.stratus.com (Carl Ellison) writes:
>For example, if I had a program on my disk which created totally random
>files looking like encrypted messages and could demonstrate that the file
>in question *could have been* created by that program, then my claim that
>it was, in fact, created by that program must stand as true (since I'm
>innocent) unless someone can prove me wrong.
HMMM... that brings up a neat idea.
Unfortunately, it's SOOO neat, I think I ought to patent it.
So I can't tell you about it.
Sorry. :-)
-Bill
Copyright 1993 William S. Yerazunis (aka Crah the Merciless)
All rights reserved, no responsibility taken.
"I love the smell of flash powder in the morning! It smells like...like theatre"
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7605 | From: mikej@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Mike Johnson)
Subject: Re: Paris-Dakar BMW touring???
Nntp-Posting-Host: mikej.mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
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7606 | From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Subject: Re: Help with backpack
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
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NNTP-Posting-Host: joesbar.cc.vt.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Sanjay Sinha (sanjay@kin.lap.upenn.edu) wrote:
: The next question is how shall I carry the thing on the bike, given
: the metal frame and all. I have a big backrest (approx 12" high) and
: was hoping that I would be able to bungee cord the backpack to the backrest.
: Any one have any experiences on such experimentation?
Put the pack on the pillion and bungee it to the backrest.
If that is not possible then you should be able to bungee it behind the
backrest, just make sure it doesn't bend or break anything like the rear
fender or turnsignals.
--
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* Bill Ranck ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* "Cars making a sudden U-turn are the most dangerous. They may cut you off *
* entirely, blocking the whole roadway and leaving you no place to go." *
* pg. 21, MSF Motorcycle Operator Manual, sixth rev. 1991 *
*******************************************************************************
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7607 | From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: GOT MY BIKE! (was Wanted: Advice on CB900C Purchase)
Keywords: CB900C, purchase, advice
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Lines: 33
In article <1993Apr15.215428.11116@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.180644.25263@ll.mit.edu> jburnside@ll.mit.edu (jamie w burnside) writes:
>>( Sure is alot harder to load on a trailer than the KDX200 was. ) I should
>>be road legal tomorrow. I am ignoring the afforementioned concerns about
>>the transmission and taking my chances.
>
> There should be no worries about the trans.
>
>>Being a reletively new reader, I am quite impressed with all the usefull
>>info available on this newsgroup. I would ask how to get my own DoD number,
>>but I'll probably be too busy riding ;-).
>
> Does this count?
Yes. He thought about it.
>
>$ cat dod.faq | mailx -s "HAHAHHA" jburnside@ll.mit.edu (waiting to press
> return...)
>
>Later,
>--
>Chris BeHanna DoD# 114 1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
>behanna@syl.nj.nec.com 1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
>Disclaimer: Now why would NEC 1991 ZX-11 - needs a name
>agree with any of this anyway? I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.
Jack Waters II
DoD#1919
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~ I don't fear the thief in the night. Its the one that comes in the ~
~ afternoon, when I'm still asleep, that I worry about. ~
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7608 | From: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu
Subject: Old Spacecraft as NAvigation Beacons!
Article-I.D.: aurora.1993Apr21.001555.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
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Nntp-Posting-Host: acad3.alaska.edu
Other idea for old space crafts is as navigation beacons and such..
Why not?? If you can put them on "safe" "pause" mode.. why not have them be
activated by a signal from a space craft (manned?) to act as a naviagtion
beacon, to take a directional plot on??
Wierd or what?
==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
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7609 | From: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSP1DWD)
Subject: Duo parking HD heads when iddle
Nntp-Posting-Host: mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Lines: 8
The Duo Powerbooks seem to park the heads after a few seconds of
inactivity... is that builtin into the drive logic or is it being
programmed via software, any way to tune the iddle timeout that
makes the heads park themselves... I think the heads are being
parked since after a few seconds of inactivity you can hear the
clunk of heads parking.
-- Denis
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7610 | From: mogul@uclink.berkeley.edu (Bret Mogilefsky)
Subject: Re: Any good sound formats conversion program out there??
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 34
NNTP-Posting-Host: uclink.berkeley.edu
In article <edd392h.733700028@mings2.cc.monash.edu.au> edd392h@mings2.cc.monash.edu.au (YWI. Li) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>Does anyone know if there is a good sound formats conversion program out
>
>there??? (Like PaintshopPro for picture formats conversion)
>
>Please send me a copy of your reply!!!
>
>thanks a lot
>
>Bel
>
Hi...
THe best sound conversion program I've ever seen is SoundTool, which
is shareware from Germany. I found a copy somewhere in wuarchive.wustl.edu
a long time ago, but I don't know offhand what directory it was under. It's
GREAT at converting files of all types, including Mac, NExT, Sun, and
various PC formats... It's also a great player and editor, with various
special effects that put Windows' Sound Recorder to shame. It requires a
driver for various sound cards... The only builtin one is for the pc speaker
(and even that sounds pretty good), but if you're just using it to convert
things, you can convert them in SoundTool and then play them in Sound
Recorder.
Give it a try!
Bret
--
* "Why, that's the second | mogul@soda.berkeley.edu *
* biggest monkey head I've | mogul@ocf.berkeley.edu *
* ever seen!" -Guybrush | mogul@uclink.berkeley.edu *
|
7611 | From: jb@access.digex.com (John Baker)
Subject: FOR SALE: U.S. Robotics 2400 baud modem $25/OBO
Article-I.D.: access.1prf3a$kn3
Distribution: na
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
I am upgrading my computer systems to FAX modems, and am selling my
2 2400/1200/300 baud USR modems without FAX or error correction.
One is internal ($25), the other is external ($30).
Both are U.S. Robotics (the highest rated modem manufacturer).
Add $4 shipping or pick up in the Washington DC area.
Offers welcome. (I would trade either for a 1x3x70ns SIMM.)
John Baker
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7612 | From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Subject: Re: Burden of Proof
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Lines: 41
NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu
In article <1993Apr21.182030.888@batman.bmd.trw.com> jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com writes:
>Actually, both are positive arguments. ("Positive" may not be the best
>description here due to possible misunderstanding, but it's the term you
>used.) Positive arguments/assertions can be both affirmative (i.e. God
>exists) and negative (i.e. God does not exist). Both carry an equal
>burden of proof because they are both asserting that a certain idea
>is true. The default condition, in the absence of a preponderance of
>evidence either way, is that the proposition or assertion is undecidable.
>And the person who takes the undecidable position and says that he/she
>simply disbelieves that the proposition is true, is the only one who
>holds no burden of proof. This is why the so-called "weak atheist"
>position is virtually unassailable -- not because it stands on a firm
>foundation of logical argument, but because it's proponents simply
>disbelieve in the existence of God(s) and therefore they hold no burden
>of proof. When you don't assert anything, you don't have to prove
>anything. That's where weak atheism draws its strength. But its
>strength is also its Achilles' heel. Without assertions/axioms, one
>has no foundation upon which to build. As a philosophy, it's virtually
>worthless. IMO, of course.
So, if I were to assert that there are no thousand year old
invisible pink unicorns* residing in my walls, I need to support this with
evidence? I think the _lack_ of evidence shall suffice.
* Who happen to like listening to satanic messages found in playing
Beethoven's 45th symphony backwards.
---
"FBI officials said cult leader David Koresh may have
forced followers to remain as flames closed in. Koresh's
armed guard may have injected as many as 24 children with
poison to quiet them."
-
"And God saw everything he had made, and, behold, in was very
good."
Genesis 1:31
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7613 | From: noah@apple.com (Noah Price)
Subject: Re: LC III NuBus Capable?
Organization: (not the opinions of) Apple Computer, Inc.
Lines: 18
In article <1qkkq4$5ev@nigel.msen.com>, mmiller@garnet.msen.com (Marvin
Miller) wrote:
>
> My friend recently purchased a LC III and he wants to know if there is
> such a demon called NuBus adapter for his PDS slot? CompUsa and
> ComputerCity Supercenter says they don't carry them.
>
> Does this mean LC III is incapable of carrying a NuBus board?
Apple doesn't make such a card, though I suppose a third party could. One
big problem is that there isn't room for a standard NuBus card inside the
LC III.
noah
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7614 | From: lbr@holos0.uucp (Len Reed)
Subject: Re: Players Rushed to Majors
Organization: Holos Software, Inc.
Lines: 15
In article <C5Hq3o.G4p@tss.com> hanson@tss.com (Hanson Loo) writes:
>Didn't Bob Horner go straight from Arizona State Univ.
>to the Atlanta Braves? I remember he had one great
>month hitting dingers and then the next I heard
>he was in Japan.
A month? Well, he did have a short career--compared to what one might
have expected for such a highly touted prospect--due to being injury prone,
overweight, and having no work ethic. But he certainly did not
suffer from being rushed to the bigs.
--
Len Reed
Holos Software, Inc.
Voice: (404) 496-1358 ext. 16
Domain: lbr@holos.atl.ga.usa UUCP: lbr@holos0.UUCP
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7615 | From: mjp@austin.ibm.com (Michael Phelps)
Subject: Re: Is it really apples to apples? (Lawful vs. unlawful use of guns)
Originator: mjp@bwa.kgn.ibm.com
Reply-To: mjp@vnet.ibm.com (Michael J. Phelps)
Organization: IBM Kingston NY
Lines: 51
In article <1993Apr16.092618.22936@husc3.harvard.edu>,
kim39@scws8.harvard.edu (John Kim) writes:
|> I have been convinced of the right of AMericans to an effective
|> self-defense, but something strikes me as odd among the
|> pro-RKBA arguments presented here.
|>
|> The numbers comparing hundreds of thousands (indeed, even a
|> million) of instances of law abiding citizens deterring
|> criminal activity, seem valid to me. Likewise the number
|> of gun-caused homicides each year (about 11,000/year?). However,
|> it is surprising that the "Evil AntiGun Empire " (Darth Vader
|> breathing sound effect here) never tries to compare
|> "All legitimate gun defenses" vs. "All gun crimes." Instead,
|> it's always "All legitimate gun defenses," which includes
|> cases in which the criminals are shot but not killed, and
|> cases in which the criminal is not here, vs. just
|> criminal gun homicides, which only includes case sin which
|> the victim died.
|>
|> Why is this? Of course, it wouldn't be unreasonable to say
|> that in each crime already measured (involving guns), the
|> consequnces are already known and it is safe to assume that
|> a gun-based bank robbery last week will not suddenly turn
|> into a gun-basd robbery+homicide. Whereas in the legitimate
|> gun defenses, one may assume that all those criminals who
|> were deterred would have committed more crime or more
|> serious crimes had they not been deterred.
I think its an attempt to show lives_saved v lives_lost; all other
gun related crimes don't result in lives_lost. On the other hand,
its impossible to know how many of the successful self defenses
prevented lives from being lost. In other words, the lives_lost
is pretty clear [its the homicide and non negligent manslaughter
number], while the lives saved is some percentage of the successful
self defenses. Clearly that percentage doesn't have to be real
high to show that lives_saved > lives_lost.
As a semi-related point, check out Kleck's "Point Blank". I believe
it goes into some related areas; it also is well written and informative.
|>
|> -Case Kim
|>
|> kim39@husc.harvard.edu
|>
--
Michael Phelps, (external) mjp@vnet.ibm.com ..
(internal) mjp@bwa.kgn.ibm.com .. mjp at kgnvmy
(and last but not least a disclaimer) These opinions are mine..
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7616 | From: vanderby@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Vanderbyl)
Subject: Re: mysterious TV problem -- source?
Nntp-Posting-Host: chip
Reply-To: vanderby@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Vanderbyl)
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Lines: 30
LLBGB@utxdp.dp.utexas.edu writes:
>Initial symptoms:
>-no picture or sound
>-CRT filament does NOT glow
>-flyback ticking as described abovew
>Discovered when hooked up the scope:
>-IF strip is not putting out audio or video signals
>-everything is making simple 20-30 Hz pulses
>-horiz out transistor collector (case of the TO-3) is a 20-30 Hz downgoing
> sawtooth with ca. 15kHz ring at front end
>guys, WHAT"S GOING ON HERE? Anyone seen this before?
What is happening is this:
1) You turn the TV on.
2) The horizontal output begins normal operation. This powers up the
high voltage and most of the rest of the circuitry.
3) A problem is sensed and the horizontal oscillator shuts down.
4) After it powers down the cycle repeats.
Things to check:
First check for a shorted high power component. Your best bet is the vertical
output transistor(s) or, if there is one, the voltage regulator. The most
common cause of this type of failure is too much current being drawn
somewhere.
Also look for shutdown circuits (which your TV may or may not have),
if you can find one that is shutting down the horizontal oscillator
then it shouldn't be too hard to find the problem from there.
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7617 | From: dpw@sei.cmu.edu (David Wood)
Subject: Re: Gospel Dating
In-Reply-To: mangoe@cs.umd.edu's message of 4 Apr 93 10:56:03 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Lines: 33
mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate) writes:
>>David Wood writes:
>>
>> "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
>
>More seriously, this is just a high-falutin' way of saying "I don't believe
>what you're saying".
Are you making a meta-argument here? In any case, you are wrong.
Think of those invisible pink unicorns.
>Also, the existence if Jesus is not an extradinary claim.
I was responding to the "historical accuracy... of Biblical claims",
of which the existence of Jesus is only one, and one that was not even
mentioned in my post.
>You may want to
>complain that the miracles attributed to him do constitute such claims (and
>I won't argue otherwise), but that is a different issue.
Wrong. That was exactly the issue. Go back and read the context
included within my post, and you'll see what I mean.
Now that I've done you the kindness of responding to your questions,
please do the same for me. Answer the Charley Challenges. Your claim
that they are of the "did not!/ did so!" variety is a dishonest dodge
that I feel certain fools only one person.
--Dave Wood
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7618 | From: kbw@helios.ath.epa.gov (Kevin B. Weinrich)
Subject: Solution: Why do I need "xrdb -m" when .Xdefaults unchanged?
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp.
Lines: 9
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ath.epa.gov
The short answer seems to be: "I don't".
The particular package (wscrawl) seems to reset *all* its defaults
if *any* of them are missing from the .Xdefaults file. Once I added
the missing ones to the .Xdefaults file, the problem goes away.
-Kevin
--
Kevin Weinrich Computer Sciences Corp.
kbw@helios.ath.epa.gov
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7619 | From: kemper@informatik.uni-kl.de (Michael Kemper [RHRK])
Subject: Hard disk error
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern
Lines: 16
Hi there,
when I run Disk First Aid on my external hard drive (Quantum LPS 240) I get the followinf
message: Error -535: Missing thread record (TarID=31015; TarBlock 416)
Disk First Aid is not able to fix this problem, Norton Utils doesn't find it at all.
When I use Norton Disk editor to look at TarBlock 416 I can read something like "DirReservedArea"
My question: How can I get rid of this error (without reformatting of course)
--
\_ \_ \_ \_ | Michael Kemper
\__ \__ \_ \_ | University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
\_\_ \_\_ \_\_ | email: kemper@rhrk.uni-kl.de
\_ \_ \_ \_ \__ |
\_ \_\_ \_ \_ \_ | Although they gave me that email address,
\_ \_ \_ \_ \_ | this is not the opinion of rhrk, uni-kl or de!
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7620 | From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Founding Father questions
Lines: 35
Nntp-Posting-Host: skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
In article <1993Apr5.153951.25005@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, pspod@bigbird.lerc.nasa.gov (Steve Podleski) writes:
>arc@cco.caltech.edu (Aaron Ray Clements) writes:
>>Wasn't she the one making the comment in '88 about George being born with
>>a silver foot in his mouth? Sounds like another damn politician to me.
>>
>>Ain't like the old days in Texas anymore. The politicians may have been
>>corrupt then, but at least they'd take a stand. (My apologies to a few
>>exceptions I can think of.)
>>
>>News now is that the House may already have a two-thirds majority, so
>>her "opposition" out of her concern for image (she's even said this
>>publicly) may not matter.
>
>Do people expect the Texans congressmen to act as the N.J. Republicans did?
There is a (likely) veto proof majority in the house. The Senate,
unfortunately, is a different story. The Lt.Gov. has vowed that the bill will
not be voted on, and he has the power to do it. In addition, the Senate is a
much smaller, and more readily manipulated body.
On ther other hand, the semi-automatic ban will likely not live, as at least
fifty per cent of the house currently opposes it, and it is VERY far down in
the bill order in the Senate (I believe it will be addressed after the CCW
bill).
And I thought my TX Political Science class was a waste of time!
--
Dillon Pyron | The opinions expressed are those of the
TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here) |
(214)492-4656 (when I'm home) |God gave us weather so we wouldn't complain
pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com |about other things.
PADI DM-54909 |
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7621 | From: kssimon@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kenneth steven simon)
Subject: Re: Deal gone bad! What to do?
Summary: small claims - you have to be there
Nntp-Posting-Host: silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
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rjkoppes@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Randy Koppes) writes:
>Have you head of small claims. You may have to put money up
>front for the filing fees, and then possibly having the local
>sheriff of his/her city to deliver the bad news. In the end
>the other party will end up paying for his/her mistake with
>interest from the time of the filing to the pay date of the
>defendent
I think the problem with small claims court is that you have to go to
the location of the person you're taking action against. It seems to
me the time and money involved in travelling out there (unless this
person is close to you) wouldn't be worth it for a small claim.
It really depends on how much money you're out.
If I am wrong about any of this, someone please correct me! ;)
--
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Internet: KSSIMON@INDIANA.EDU Bitnet: KSSIMON@IUBACS
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7622 | From: mycal@NetAcsys.com (Mycal)
Subject: Need to find out number to a phone line
Distribution: world
Organization: ACSYS, Inc.
Lines: 14
try comp.dcom - I was reading a thread a while back about an 800 number
that you could dial. worked here. It was a sales line for sprint I think
telling you that you could have all your customers numbers using there
ANI, then it told you your number. Should work with any modern switch.
mycal
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\ //
Mycal's way of skiing moguls: // \
turn, turn, turn, air, survive, survive, survive... No Risk, No Rush
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7623 | From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Subject: Maybe?????
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Lines: 17
Hi Christian friends,
My name is Joel, I have a sister who's 25th birthday is tomorrow.....She
used to be on fire for the Lord, but somehow, for some reason, she
became cold....she don't want to associate anymore with her old
christian friends.........so I thought maybe some of you could help her
out again by sending her a postcard or card with a little message of
encouragement.....hand written is okay....her address is 3150 Hobart
Ave. San Jose Ca. 95127...........
Thank you and God Bless.
PS: Jesus Christ is LORD!!!!!!!!
[I have some qualms about postings like this. You might want to
engage in a bit more conversation with Joel before deluging
someone who doesn't expect it with cards. --clh]
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7624 | From: (Steve Tomassi)
Subject: DAVE KINGMAN FOR THE HALL OF FAME
Nntp-Posting-Host: berkeley-kstar-node.net.yale.edu
Organization: Yale Computing Center
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Hi, baseball fans! So what do you say? Don't you think he deserves it?
I
mean, heck, if Dave Winfield (ho-hum) is seriously being considered for it,
as
is Lee Smith (ha), then why don't we give Dave Kingman a chance? Or Darrell
Evans! Yeah, yeah! After the Hall of Fame takes in them, it can take in
Eddie
Murray and Jeff Reardon.
Well, in any case, I am sick and tired (mostly sick) of everybody
giving
Hall of Fame consideration to players that are by today's standards,
marginal.
Honestly, Ozzie Smith and Robin Yount don't belong there. They're both
shortstops that just hung around for a long time. Big deal.
Let's be a little more selective, huh? Stop handing out these honors
so
liberally. Save them for the guys who really deserve it. Face it, if
something
isn't done, there will be little prestige in the Hall of Fame anymore. When
certain individuals believe that Steve Garvey or Jack Morris are potential
candidates, the absurdity is apparent. Gee, can these guys even compare to
the more likely future Hall of Famers like Kirby Puckett or Nolan Ryan?
Ñ Steve
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7625 | From: gruncie@cs.strath.ac.uk (Gillian E Runcie CS92)
Subject: Re: Fortune-guzzler barred from bars!
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
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that's okay, he's perfectly welcome to come to Scotland you know ;-)
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7626 | From: kaminski@netcom.com (Peter Kaminski)
Subject: Re: What about sci.med.chemistry
Article-I.D.: netcom.kaminskiC52n0s.2uA
Organization: The Information Deli - via Netcom / San Jose, California
Lines: 19
In <julkunen.734086202@messi.uku.fi> julkunen@messi.uku.fi (Antero
Julkunen) writes:
>There is this newsgroup sci.med.physics and there has been quite a lot
>discussion in this group about many chemical items e.g. prolactin
>cholesterol, TSH etc. Should there also be a newsgroup sci.med.chemistry?
It's got potential. Instead of *.chemistry, how about splitting the
classification into *.biochemistry (which are probably the topics
you're thinking of) and *.pharmaceutical (which otherwise might end up
in *.(bio)chemistry)?
(This is separate from the issue of whether there is sufficient potential
news volume to support either or both groups.)
I'll add 'em to my medical/health newsgroup wish list (which I'm looking
forward to posting and discussing -- but not for another 10 days or so).
Pete
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7627 | From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: eXpEn$iVe MOTOROLA Handheld Radio For Peanuts!
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Organization: The MITRE Corporation
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Jeff Later writes:
> MOTOROLA EXPO VHF 2WATT/2CHAN. HT--------[new]-------$1200.00
> Would like $400, or BEST OFFER!!!
I'm sure that the Motorola is worth it, but this kind of thing
has always mystified me. $400 is the price of very good, new
dual-band, fully synthasized HT. Yes, yes, I know Motorola
HTs are bullet-proof, unbreakable, plutonium-based
indestructable -- you can drive a tank over them and they'll
still work. But just how often does that come up? Why are hams
willing (and they *are*) to spend the price of a synthaszied
dual-bander for a 2-channel xtal rig??? Note: this is not
a flame; as I said, I'm sure this is a good deal for this rig.
I'm just amazed that it *is* a good deal. I would have guessed
that a 2 channel xtal rig could never be worth as much as a dual-
bander to a ham, no matter how durable. Just shows you how wrong
*I* can be.
Mike, N4PDY
******************************
* These are my opinions only.*
******************************
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7628 | From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Question about helmets
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Lines: 22
In article <1qmnp8INN31v@mojo.eng.umd.edu> oconnor@eng.umd.edu (Mark O'Connor) writes:
>
>On the other side of the fence, I owned a Bieffe off-road helmet.
>Took what I would consider a minor fall, and had visible damage
>to the shell. Yes, the helmet did its job. But the damage/impact
>ratio was scary. I own Bell Moto-5 now, have taken impacts on
>order of twice the Bieffe impact (we do this frequently in MX),
>and don't even have a scratch on it after two seasons. My
>recommendation is to buy _high_ quality gear. YMMV.
When your helmetted nogin hits an immoveabe object, there are only four things
to dissipate the energy: the immoveable object, the helmet shell, the helmet
liner, the rider's head, the rider's ego (ok, five). Assuming that the helmet/
head assembly takes the same impact, if the shell cracks in one case, then in
the other the liner must be dented, or the head gets jiggled. If it's the
the liner that's dented, the helmet is just as toast as if the shell were
cracked, it won't absorb energy form an impact in that area. If it's the head
that's getting jiggled, maybe the new gear isn't of as high quality after all?
I've bike like | Jody Levine DoD #275 kV
got a you can if you -PF | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
ride it | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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7629 | From: Marc VanHeyningen <mvanheyn@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: How does it really work? (was Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption)
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Indiana University
Distribution: na
Lines: 57
This announcement is somewhat disconcerting; it doesn't do anything
evil in and of itself, but bodes badly for the future of open
algorithms and standards in information security. I won't start
panicking until/unless DES or RSA or stuff like that is prohibited, but
I'm a little anxious. (No doubt it won't be long before someone posts
explaining how this just a small part of some far-ranging and
long-lived NSA-PKP-IRS-FBI-CIA-HandgunControlInc-Clinton conspiracy to
subvert freedom, democracy, and mathematics.) My feeling is that the
administration probably isn't that worried about things like DES and
RSA and PGP and RIPEM, since they'll never be used by a group much
wider than us computer geeks.
The fact that this just came out now suggests one of two things:
1. The NSA has been working on this for a long time, and it only just
now happened to be ``ready'' to release to the world at this time.
2. The NSA has been working on this for a long time, but wasn't able
to get the Bush administration to go along with this plan. (I
find it unlikely that this would have been because of a sympathy
for the unescrowed use of cryptography; more likely the
administration felt that even escrowed, secret-algorithm and, for
all we know, trivially breakable cryptography should not be made
widely available.)
Thus said clipper@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Clipper Chip Announcement):
>This new technology will help companies protect proprietary
>information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations
>and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted
>electronically. At the same time this technology preserves the
>ability of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to
>intercept lawfully the phone conversations of criminals.
The majority of the discussion involving this "Clipper Chip" seems to
pertain to the encryption of telephone conversations. Does anyone
know if that means this chip is designed to work primarily with analog
signals? The language sort of suggests this, but it's hard to say.
The main thing I just don't get is whether this chip implements
symmetric or asymmetric cryptographic techniques. Anybody know?
I'm guessing symmetric, but they don't get very clear about it. If it
is symmetric, how is it useful for anything other than link-level
encryption with an identical chip at each end? How can you negotiate
a per-session key using symmetric cryptography without using a trusted
third party who knows your key? (Or does it even use a per-session
key?)
If it's asymmetric, what about PKP's patents, which they claim cover
all methods of doing asymmetric cryptography? Are they getting
royalties, or is hiding infringement the real reason for keeping the
algorithm secret? :-)
--
Marc VanHeyningen mvanheyn@cs.indiana.edu MIME & RIPEM accepted
Kirk: I won't hurt you.
Alien: You hit me!
Kirk: Well, I won't hit you again.
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7630 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: 'SDPA' has made "Armenian" synonymous with "idiot" or "criminal/Nazi".
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 208
In article <1993Apr19.000246.11186@urartu.sdpa.org> hla@urartu.sdpa.org writes:
>In your (and Mutlu/Argic/Cosar's and thousands of others like you)
'SDPA.ORG' criminals/Nazis in action. Your fascist government got away with
the genocide of 2.5 million Turkish men, women and children and is enjoying
the fruits of that genocide. And your criminal organization will not get away
with the genocide's cover-up. In June 1915, a major uprising took place in
Sebinkarahisar under the leadership of the famous Nazi Boyadjian. The Moslem
districts were burnt down. Hundreds of soldiers and gendarmerie were killed
and hundreds of civilians also perished.
Armenians first of all occupied the Talori region, which included
the villages of Siner, Simai, Gulli-Guzat, Ahi, Hedenk, Sinank,
Ekind, Effard, Musson, Etek, Akcesser. Leaving their wives,
children and property in these inaccessible spots, the Armenians
joined forces with other armed bands coming from the Silvan
districts in the plain of Mus, after which the whole body of
3000 men gathered in the Andok Mt. Five or six hundred wished
to surround Mus, and started off by attacking the Delican tribe to
the south of the city. They slaughtered a number of the tribe and
seized their goods. The religious beliefs of the Muslims who fell
into their hands were derided and disparaged, and the Muslims
themselves murdered in the most frightful manner. The rebels
also attacked the regular troops in the vicinity of Mus, but the
large numbers of the regular forces prevented them from
occupying the city.
The rebels joined the bandits in the Andok Mts., carrying out
the most frightful massacres and looting among the tribes of the
neighbourhood. They burned Omer Agha's nephew alive. They
raped a number of Turkish women at a spot three or four hours'
distance from Gulli-Guzat and then strangled them.
At the beginning of August the rebels attacked the Faninar,
Bekiran and Badikan tribes, perpetrating equally horrible
atrocities. The rebels in the villages of Yermut and Ealigernuk in
the nahiye of Cinan in the kaza of Cal attacked the Kurds in the
neighbourhood, as well as the villages of Kaisser and Catcat.
Towards the end of August, the Armenians attacked the
Kurds in the vicinity of Mus and burned down three or four
villages, including Gulli-Guzat. As for the 3000 rebels in Talori,
they continued to spread death and destruction among the
Muslims and other Christian communities, refusing to lay down
their arms.
Source: Uras, Esat: The Armenians in History. Documentary Publications
(Istanbul), 1988.
p. 954.
"In his speech given at the Sivas Congress, Mustafa Kemal once again drew
a picture of the country under occupation:
In the East, the Armenians are making preparations for advancing to the
River Halys (Kizilirmak), and have already started a policy of massacring
the Moslem population."
pp. 966-967.
"The situation of the southern provinces of Turkey after the signing of the
Mudros Armistice is described by Ataturk in his speech:
The Armenians in the south, armed by foreign troops and encouraged by the
protection they enjoyed, molested the Mohammedans of their district. They
pursued a relentless policy of murder and extinction everywhere. This was
responsible for the tragic incident at Maras....the Armenians had completely
destroyed an old Mohammedan town like Maras by their artillery and
machine-gun fire.
They killed thousands of innocent and defenceless women and children. The
Armenians were the instigators of the atrocities, which were unique in
history.
Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
"Document No: 15," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 113, Drawer
No: 3, File No: 520, Section No: 2024, Contents No: 11-1; 11-3.
(19 Feb 330 '4 March 1915', District Governor Kemal)
"List of male inhabitants of Mergehu Village murdered or annihilated
with the utmost savagery by Armenians:
Names Method of Annihilation
----- ----------------------
Haci Ibrahim, son of Abdi Bullets and bayonet
Abdi, son of Haci Ibrahim Bullets and bayonet
Reso, son of Abdi Beaten and cut into pieces
Sado, son of Omer Beaten and cut into pieces
Aso, son of Reso Beaten and cut into pieces
Kulu, son of Canko Stabbed in the eye with a bayonet
Musa, son of Canko Bayonet in his eye
Emin, son of Molla Hamit Bayonet in his eye
Molla Abdullah, son of Hamit Bayonet in his eye
Ibo, son of Haci Bayonet in his eye
Sado, son of Haci Bayonet in his eye
Abdullah, son of Canko Slaughtered
Ibo, son of Ahmet Abdomen ripped open
Ismail, son of Ibo Burnt in fire
Musto, son of Ozu Bullets
Mahmut, son of Seyyo Slaughtered
Kocak, son of Birro Bullets
Musto, son of Husnu Bullets
Uso, son of Alo Bullets
Maksut, son of Peri Bullets
Haci, son of Peri Bullets
Mehmet, son of Hasanali Bayonet
Ibo, son of Hasanali Bayonet
Abdo, son of Mehmed Bayonet
Molla Suleyman Burnt in oven
Mazgi, son of Abdullah Stabbed in abdomen by bayonet
Sulis, son of Hasan Bullets
Mahmo, son of Mehmet Stabbed with a dagger
Murat, son of Hasan Stabbed with a dagger
Uso, son of Avci Blinded with a bayonet
Lesko, son of Mehmet Stabbed with a dagger
Abdullah, son of Kasim Bullets
Coban Abdullah Bullets
Seymo, son of Mumin Bullets
Muammer, son of Reso Bullets
Paso, son of Merzi Bullets
Gulu, son of Bitor Bullets
Murat, son of Yusuf Bullets and bayonet
Cedo, son of Haci Ibrahim Bullets and bayonet
Faki Mehmet Bullets and bayonet
Silo, son of Abdulcebbar Bullets and bayonet
List of massacred females from the same village:
Kasi, daughter of Huso and
wife of Haci Ibrahim Bullets
Fati, daughter of Isa,
wife of Aduz Bullets
Zeresan, daughter of Amat,
wife of Reso Bayonet
Gullu, daughter of Iyso Cutting off her breasts
Sulnu, daughter of Sulo, Ripping open her abdomen and burning
wife of Ibo her baby in oven
Fatma, daughter of Ibo Slaughtered and burnt in oven
Fidan hatun Burnt in oven
Gulfizar, daughter of Hacihan,
wife of Musto Slaughtered
Rahime, daughter of Mehmet,
wife of Halil Bullets
Binefs, daughter of Haci Kerim,
wife of Suleyman Burnt in oven
Mahiye, daughter of Ali,
wife of Sivno Slaughtered
Hati, daughter of Haci,
wife of Ahmet Slaughtered
Hacer, daughter of Meho Bullet and bayonet
List of Females of the same village raped and murdered:
Nadire, daughter of Haci, wife of Suvis
Hani, daughter of Kulu, wife of Zerko
Zaliha, daughter of Telli, wife of Silo
Arap, daughter of Sami, wife of Hilo
Wounded males and females of the same village:
(a long list)
List of massacred males and females at Istuci village:
Mikail, son of Alo Bullets
Musto, son of Ismail Bullets
Dervis, son of Maksut Bullets
Ali, son of Nimet Bayonet
Esat, son of Kelo Bayonet and bullets
Isa, son of Nebi Bayonet and bullets
Cevher, son of Gani Beaten by rifle butt
Ziro, daughter of Hasan Died from injuries
Hazal, daughter of Ali,
wife of Acem Died from injuries
Hamsa, daughter of Huseyin,
wife of Huseyin Died from injuries
List of raped women at Istuci village in life:
Sabo, daughter of Maho Virgin
Miri, other daughter of Maho Virgin
Emine, daughter of Meho, wife
of Sofi Salih
Sahap, daughter of Ali, wife
of Nevruz
Gullu, daughter of Mahi Virgin
List of persons attacked by Armenian gangs:
(a long list)"
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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7631 | From: dlb5404@tamuts.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf)
Subject: Re: Do they really believe?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Lines: 38
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamuts.tamu.edu
In article <1993Apr5.150031.3123@colorado.edu> ajteel@dendrite.cs.Colorado.EDU (A.J. Teel) writes:
>
> Q: Do you think that HIC et al really believe that the laws
>that they are trying to get passed are for the good or are they just
>lying through their teeth and trying to disarm the populace?
I think that HCI people honestly believe that passing more gun control
laws will be in the best interests of public safety. Why do I think
this? Because I used to buy the HCI line. During my freshman year (1987),
their line made so much sense -- only people who "need" guns should be
able to get them, and the people who "need" them are the police and
other elites. Unfortunately for us, this position is highly emotional
and not well thought-out. They never stop to think that HCI's position
basically says that the non-elite are incompetents (that's you and me,
folks!) and that the Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with
hunting or other "legitimate" uses (which excludes overthrowing tyrannical
governments and defending yourself when the police have proven they
can't protect you).
> We all know that the end result, regardless of the intention,
>will be to have a MUCH easier to subdue population for the UN/NWO.
>This is definitely a motivation of many in power, but I wonder to
>what degree this is planned vs just duped.
Every pro-control person I've talked to is always left stumped when I
simply argue the facts of gun control (that it has yet to be proven to
lower crime rates) and weapons terminology (and I'm no expert -- but
explaining exactly how an "evil" semiautomatic weapon really works
does wonders).
I hvae personally found well-reasoned arguments to be most effective
against the emotional pro-control people. The trick is to get them to
realize that the Second Amendment exists not for hunters but for the
oppressed and the terrorized.
Daryl
Daryl Biberdorf N5GJM d-biberdorf@tamu.edu
+ Sola Gratia + Sola Fide + Sola Scriptura
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7632 | From: ad060@Freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Waschkowski)
Subject: Re: File Manager problem
Reply-To: ad060@Freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Waschkowski)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 29
In a previous article, mrw54660@eng-nxt01.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R Whitchurch) says:
>Whenever I start File Manager, the status bar is not displayed,
>even though it is selected in the options menu. If I deselect it,
>then select it again, the bar appears. Anyone have any ideas why
>this is happening?
No, not really. It may be that your winfile.ini has gotten corrupted for
some unknown reason. Have you tried re-creating it by either
1.exiting filemanager with the save setting option on when the status bar
is visible,
or
2.double clicking on the Control menu(the one with minimize and maximize
in in) when everything looks proper?
If you have, and it still doesn't work, you may want to delete your
winfile.ini and try one of these two saving procedures again to totally
recreate the file from scratch.
Good luck!
Mark Waschkowski
--
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7633 | From: dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz)
Subject: Re: Terraforming Venus: can it be done "cheaply"?
Organization: University of Rochester
Lines: 9
Would someone please send me James Oberg's email address, if he has
one and if someone reading this list knows it? I wanted to send
him a comment on something in his terraforming book.
Paul F. Dietz
dietz@cs.rochester.edu
Potential explosive yield of the annual global
production of borax: 5 million megatons
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7634 | From: Kirk_Cowen@panam.wimsey.bc.ca (Kirk Cowen)
Subject: references...
Distribution: world
Organization: Commodore Computer Club / PaNorAmA
Lines: 12
I've got the same problem; I can't dig up any info on the jumper settings
on the hd 3.5" drives.
Can anyone recommend a reference book(s) on the subject, rather than a
"quick fix" type answer?? I was going to start hooking up things and
logging the results, but the prospect of a ten second smoke test deters
me...
Thanks, Kirk Cowen.
-- Via DLG Pro v0.995
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7635 | From: stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU ()
Subject: New 'GUESS' Out On Gay Percentage
Organization: Santa Cruz
Lines: 38
NNTP-Posting-Host: orchid.ucsc.edu
In article <C5LA55.Bwq@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes:
>Clayton Cramer writes:
>#Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson,
>#and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that
>#homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general
>#male population.
>
>Did you ever consider the selection effect that those who are willing
>to admit to being a member sexual minority (homosexuality) are more
>willing to admit to being a member of another sexual minority (highly
>promiscious)?
>
>I didn't think that you did.
>
>--
>-Greg Hennessy, University of Virginia
It is obvious that Mr. Cramer has the 'ability' to take the 'leap of faith'.
I have listened to several of the men involved in this study, and even they
claim that the men involved will not 'tell the whole truth'.
I put little value in extrapolating from these types of 'studies' or 'surveys',
they have limited subsets of individuals, and there is alot of skewing due
to improper selection methods, and the bias of the people involved in the
studies on both sides- subject and researcher.
Would you admit to be part of a group that was not very well liked? Would
you admit to having had sex with other people at some considered abnormal
rate (this applies to heterosexual men). In fact, as one gay man and one
straight man put it, "men lie about the number of partners, because that's
the thing to do"- our culture for the male almost requires this type of
response. It may seem harmless and silly, but carries a large emotional
and mental price tag.
I hear college male students everyday talking about their 'supposed'
conquest. They just have to look good to one another, at least in their
eyes. But also know that alot of this does go on, there are many college
males (hetero) having a lot of sex with different partners.
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7636 | From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Subject: Re: National Sales Tax, The Movie
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 38
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, ckincy@cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) says:
>Let the "GREAT CHUCKMEISTER" make a couple predictions, if you
>will:
>
>1. The sun will rise tomorrow.
>2. Rush will bash Clinton on his next show.
>3. I will turn out to be Clinton's love child.
Hey, *I* wasn't the one dancing and singing on Jan. 20, now
WAS I? I was roundly ridiculed for my "predictions".
Sure they were easy. TEll that to the other 43% of the people. :)
>
>+----------------+
>| SUCKA! |
>| |
>| Made in USA |
>+----------------+
>
>Hook, line, and sinker! *chuckle*
Just WAIT until the see what Clinton has planned for
their pension funds! :) This one doesn't take much thinking
either. Uncle Sam needs money, BAD, and pension funds got it.
Well, they USED to have it. Turns out the states have been
plundering state employee funds for the past 2-3 years. ;)
Ah, it's gonna be SWELL!
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7637 | From: u2087546@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (The Jester)
Subject: Re: info on apple 8*24GC requested.
Organization: Comedy Company
Lines: 25
In article <1993Apr5.122613.12289@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>, Norbert Mueller <K360171@alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> writes:
>> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
> In article <prudhom.733762331@iros1> Serge Prud'homme,
> prudhom@IRO.UMontreal.CA writes:
>> Any info on the video processor Am29000 that sit on it, any way to
> program that
>> chip? What companie makes that chip?
> >
> Apple was never able to provide any docs or tools to program that chip. I
> value it as
> the least value per $ piece of computer hardware I ever bought due to the
> COMPLETE
> LACK support tools. There was a refund for US-buyers of this card but we
> Europeans
> were left out in the rain once again...
I agree completely, but there was only a refund for people who bought the GC
with a Quadra. I have seen an alpha version of an extension from Apple called
8.24 GC QuickTime Video which offloads QuickTime compression/decompression
from the cpu to the AM29000 on the card. So it seems it can be done even though
in a developer article it states that the GC can't be programmed - but they
asked that any suggestions be sent in anyway...
Steve Margelis
Melbourne University
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7638 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Biosphere II
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
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NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
In article <19930419.062802.166@almaden.ibm.com> nicho@vnet.ibm.com writes:
|In <1q77ku$av6@access.digex.net> Pat writes:
|>The Work is privately funded, the DATA belongs to SBV. I don't see
|>either george or Fred, scoriating IBM research division for
|>not releasing data.
| We publish plenty kiddo,you just have to look.
Never said you didn't publish, merely that there is data you don't
publish, and that no-one scoriates you for those cases.
IBM research publishes plenty, it's why you ended up with 2 Nobel
prizes in the last 10 years, but that some projects are deemed
company confidential. ATT Bell Labs, keeps lots of stuff private,
Like Karamankars algorithm. Private moeny is entitled to do what
it pleases, within the bounds of Law, and For all the keepers of the
temple of SCience, should please shove their pointy little heads
up their Conically shaped Posterior Orifices.
pat
who just read the SA article on Karl Fehrabend(sp???)
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7639 | From: ad215@Freenet.carleton.ca (Rachel Holme)
Subject: Re: CBC Game Choices (was LA ON CBC...)
Reply-To: ad215@Freenet.carleton.ca (Rachel Holme)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 39
In a previous article, 35002_2765@uwovax.uwo.ca () says:
>In article <boora.735182771@sfu.ca>, boora@kits.sfu.ca (The GodFather) writes:
>>
>> CBC had a great chance for some double headers: Toronto/Detroit
>> and Vancouver/Winnipeg, but today they said that the East gets the Leafs
>> and the West get the Vancouver game. I thought that they would show them
>> both.
I'm totally p*-o'd, too! Vancouver-Winnipeg is great west-coast hockey -
fast-paced and loads of talent. What I've seen so far is hardly
entertaining, with the exception of the odd shift every now & then (of
course I missed Calgary-LA & Pitts-Jersey...)
>No, because the PINHEADS at CBC figure everyone here in Ontario cares
>for the Leafs, the Maple Leafs, and nothing but the Leafs. Half of
>Southern Ontario is people who moved from out west, but the good folks
>in Toronto couldn't care less. They should show the doubleheader
>(heck the second game would have two Canadian teams!), and let those
>desperate for news watch The National on Newsworld, but they don't.
>Why? Because Canada ends at Windsor, don'cha know! Grrrrr.
Amen...
>Now I have to get updates every 30 mins. on CNN Headline News, for
>crying out loud...
That's cheaper than what I do - PHONE CALLS. (There must be a better
system - one ring, Adams to Linden, he SCORES; two rings Bure rushes up
the ice, he SCORES, etc etc :-))
--
ad215@freenet.carleton.ca (Rachel Holme)]
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7640 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: "Cruel" (was Re: <Political Atheists?)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
>>They spent quite a bit of time on the wording of the Constitution. They
>>picked words whose meanings implied the intent. We have already looked
>>in the dictionary to define the word. Isn't this sufficient?
>We only need to ask the question: what did the founding fathers
>consider cruel and unusual punishment?
>Hanging? Hanging there slowing being strangled would be very
>painful, both physically and psychologicall, I imagine.
Well, most hangings are very quick and, I imagine, painless.
>Firing squad ? [ note: not a clean way to die back in those
>days ], etc.
>All would be considered cruel under your definition.
>All were allowed under the constitution by the founding fathers.
And, hangings and firing squads are allowed today, too. And, if these
things were not considered cruel, then surely a medical execution
(painless) would not be, either.
keith
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7641 | From: beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck)
Subject: Re: Archie-Client ?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany.
Lines: 8
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.DE
NNTP-Posting-Host: irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de
Get Xarchie 2.0 instead.
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7642 | From: mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin)
Subject: dogs
Article-I.D.: Ikkoku-K.MS-C.735160298.1147902781.mrc
Organization: University of Washington
Lines: 52
NNTP-Posting-Host: ikkoku-kan.panda.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I'm a biker and a dog-lover.
First and foremost, I want to mention some common sense. If it's a choice
between injuring/killing a dog or getting yourself injured/killed, there is
only one rational decision. Only the most insane animal rights kook would put
the dog first.
Second, it's useful to learn how to read a dog's body language. How you react
to a dog who is chasing you because he thinks it's a game (and that you're
playing with him) is completely different from how you react to a dog which
has hostile intent.
Third, it's useful to learn how to present yourself to a dog. Dogs are social
beasts, and recognize a domination/submission hierarchy. To a dog, there are
two types of fellow-creatures; that which he dominates, and that which
dominate him. You need to unambiguously represent yourself as being of the
latter class. You are God: you are easily angered and your anger is terrible.
But God is also amused by one who properly submits to His dominance, and may
even on rare occasions dispense a kind word, a kind word, or even (oh joy oh
rapture unforeseen) A Dog Bisquit!
Now, how does that all relate to biking? Well, first, it's a good idea to
assume that most dogs who chase motorcycles do so because they think it's a
game, and not out of overt hostility. The MSF suggestion is a very good one;
when you see the dog coming, slow down so he determines a particular place of
interception. Just before you (and he) reach that spot, punch the throttle so
that when he reaches it you're already long gone. Dogs take a few seconds to
react to new input, and definitely cannot comprehend the acceleration that a
motorcycle is capable of.
With a hostile dog, or one which you repeatedly encounter, stronger measures
may be necessary. This is the face off. First -- and there is very important
-- make sure you NEVER face off a dog on his territory. Face him off on the
road, not on his driveway. If necessary, have a large stick, rolled up
newspaper, etc. (something the beast will understand is something that will
hurt him). Stand your ground, then slowly advance. Your mental attitude is
that you are VERY ANGRY and are going to dispense TERRIBLE PUNISHMENT. The
larger the dog, the greater your anger.
Dogs will pick up anger, just as they can pick up fear. And, since you and he
are not on his home territory, it may suddenly dawn on the dog that perhaps he
is on your territory, and that you are prepared to fight to the death.
Most dogs will decide that it is a good idea to retreat to their own territory
where there is at least a home advantage. They'll also observe that you are
satisfied by that retreat (gesture of submission) and thus they have escaped
punishment.
The interesting thing about dogs is that body language communicates a great
deal to them. The more effective you are at communicating body language, the
less you actually have to do. After 7 years with my 93 pound beast, I've
learned a few tricks I think...
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7643 | From: simon@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Simon Clippingdale)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Nntp-Posting-Host: nin
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Lines: 29
In article <1qjclt$nh7@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
> [...]
>
> [as I recall, I first entered the fray on this matter in response to
> an assertion by Simon Clippingdale that morality was relative.
Oops! Quite right. I got so busy that I saved Frank's last post back then,
intending to respond when I could, and I sort of forgot. I'll try to do it
soon if anyone's still interested, and probably even if they're not.
> Is he therefore trying to sell something? I don't think so. ]
Well, yes, maybe I am. I'm trying to have people buy and take on my opinions,
thus causing said opinions to spread in time-honoured memetic virus mode until
the world is a veritable paradise. So how about it, folks? As they say over
here, You Know It Makes Sense.
> Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That'
> odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon
Cheers
Simon
--
Simon Clippingdale simon@dcs.warwick.ac.uk
Department of Computer Science Tel (+44) 203 523296
University of Warwick FAX (+44) 203 525714
Coventry CV4 7AL, U.K.
|
7644 | From: rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler)
Subject: Re: Phills vs Pirates
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division
Keywords: mlb, 04.16
Lines: 37
In article <1993Apr16.163712.2466@VFL.Paramax.COM> edd@gvlf4-a.gvl.unisys.com (Ed Dougherty) writes:
>
>As a Philly fan as as a Penna. baseball fan, I'm anxious to see the
>Penna. series. Anyone know when it starts and where the first games
>will be played?
>
>This is (I think) always good baseball (to me); and the Pirates are
>also off to a good start.
>
>Ed Doc
When is it did you say? Well let me shell out here and run this
handy dandy program....
$ mlb -m pit phi
And the answer is:
Monday, 5/10 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Tuesday, 5/11 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Wednesday, 5/12 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Friday, 6/25 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Saturday, 6/26 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:05 pm)
Sunday, 6/27 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (11:35 am)
Friday, 7/30 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:35 pm)
Saturday, 7/31 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (5:05 pm)
Sunday, 8/ 1 Pittsburg at Philadelphia (11:35 am)
Monday, 9/27 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Tuesday, 9/28 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Wednesday, 9/29 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
Thursday, 9/30 Philadelphia at Pittsburg (5:35 pm)
This is a great little program - its available at an ftp site near
you (unfortunatly I don't recall which one). Any schedule question
you got is answered with this little gem. Many thanks to the author
for providing this service.
|
7645 | Organization: University of Notre Dame - Office of Univ. Computing
From: <JOLD@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Subject: Re: Octopus in Detroit?
<1993Apr18.100640.1@nickel.laurentian.ca>
Lines: 9
In Detroit, the octopus is a symbol from the old days of the league. In
the era of the Original 6, four teams made the playoffs. To win the Cup,
a team had to win two seven-game series - in other words it took 8
playoff wins to win the Cup. The octopus (8 legs) has become a common
Detroit symbol. Every year around playoff time people start sneaking
octopus (octopi?) into the Joe Louis Arena and throwing them onto the ice.
J. Old
e-mail: JOLD@vma.cc.nd.edu
|
7646 | From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
Subject: WC 93: Results, April 20
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Lines: 162
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1993 World Championships in Germany:
====================================
Group A results:
SWEDEN - CANADA 1-4 (0-0,1-1,0-3)
1st:
2nd: CAN 0-1 Geoff Sanderson (Kevin Dineen) 7:24
SWE 1-1 Patrik Juhlin (Jan Larsson) 15:23 (pp)
3rd: CAN 1-2 Geoff Sanderson 5:54 (ps)
CAN 1-3 Mike Gartner (Greg Johnson,Adam Graves) 10:44
CAN 1-4 Rod Brind'Amour (Shayne Corson) 19:59
Shots on goal: Penalties: Attendance: Referee:
Sweden 10 15 12 - 37 4*2min 6,500 Rob Hearn (USA)
Canada 10 13 6 - 29 6*2min
Bill Ranford stopped 36 shots to lead Canada to a 4-1 victory in a very well
played game.
The first period started with a give away from a Canadian defenseman and
Rundqvist came in alone on Ranford but couldn't put the puck over a sliding
Ranford. Later on, Kevin Dineen had a great opportunity but Soderstrom
played very well too. Stefan Nilsson had a couple of great dekes and set up
Jan Larsson but again Ranford came up big. Period ended scoreless but the edge
to Sweden in creating more opportunities.
Second period action saw Tommy Soderstrom making a GREAT save. Mark Recchi
made a backhanded cross ice pass to Lindros, Eric one timed the puck but
Soderstrom was there to make a glove hand save. At the 7-minute mark, Canada
started applying pressure on the Swedes. Sanderson-Dineen-Brind'Amour worked
hard and kept the puck in the Swedes' zone. Dineen gave the puck to Sanderson
who skated around a screened Swedish defenseman, came in on Soderstrom and
made a wrist shot that went it by Soderstrom's far post, 1-0 Canada.
The Swedes picked up their game after that, and Peter Forsberg had a shot
that hit Ranford's post (the inside), went parallel to the goal line and out.
Then Gartner got a penalty and the Swedes a power play. Jan Larsson took
a shot from the slot, Ranford gave a rebound to Larsson who saw Juhlin by
the far post, passed the puck and Ranford was beat, 1-1.
Third period started as the other periods, Swedes having most of the pressure
but the Canadians always dangerous once they were close to the Swede goal.
At 5:54, Canada created some great chances and Arto Blomsten was forced to
cover the puck in the Swede goal crease since Soderstrom lost sight of it.
That resulted in a penalty shot, since a defenseman can't cover the puck in
the goal crease. Geoff Sanderson took the penalty shot (his first ever, he
explained afterwards), and he put it low on Soderstrom's stick side, close
to the post. Excellent penalty shot to give Canada a go ahead goal.
Canada increased the lead on a very suspect offside, Gartner volleyed a
bouncing puck past Soderstrom to make it 3-1. The Swedes ran out of gas
then and couldn't produce as good scoring chances as they had for 2,5 periods.
The 4-1 goal came with only 1 second left, Rod Brind'Amour scoring on a
rebound from Soderstrom, where the Swedish defense already had their minds
in the dressing room.
A very good game (the best in the WC so far?), with both goalies playing
great. Soderstrom best player in Sweden, but Ranford even played better
than Soderstrom, that tells you something about Ranford. Probably the best
goalie in the world, were some comments after the game.
Canada played a very disciplined defense, Ranford pointed out that it is
easy to play well with a good defense. Lindros played A LOT and played well,
Sanderson naturally game hero with two goals.
The Forsberg-Naslund-Bergqvist line Sweden's best along with Larsson-Juhlin-
Nilsson. Swedish defense played well, 197 cm 104 kg Peter Popovic had the
task of neutralizing 192 cm 107 kg Eric Lindros, and managed this very well.
Ranger defenseman Peter Andersson finally got to go to the WC, and considering
that he landed in Germany just a few hours before the game, he played very
well. Swedish coach Curt Lundmark was irritated after the game, partly because
of the Swedes inability to score, and partly because of the linesman's mistake
on the 1-3 goal.
Lines information follows further below.
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ITALY - SWITZERLAND 1-0 (0-0,1-0,0-0)
1st:
2nd: ITA 1-0 Orlando 15:47
3rd:
Penalties: ITA 10*2min, SWI 8*2min
Referee: Anton Danko, Slovakia
Attendance: 3,500
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Group B results:
CZECH REPUBLIC - GERMANY 5-0 (0-0,3-0,2-0)
1st:
2nd: CZE 1-0 Kamil Kastak 1:51
CZE 2-0 Jiri Dolezal 12:26
CZE 3-0 Petr Hrbek 19:10
3rd: CZE 4-0 Radek Toupal 8:28
CZE 5-0 Josef Beranek 17:07
Penalties: CZE 7*2min, GER 6*2min 1*5min 1*10min game penalty
Referee: Darren Loraas, Canada
Attendance: 10,200
The Czechs were clearly better than the Germans, and the German crowd
showed their discontent by throwing in stuff on the ice after a while.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
FINLAND - USA 1-1 (0-0,1-0,0-1)
1st:
2nd: FIN 1-0 Jarkko Varvio 4:00
3rd: USA 1-1 Ed Olczyk 4:26
Penalties: FIN 7*2min, USA 6*2min
Referee: Valeri Bokarev, Russia
Attendance: 2,800
I hope some Finns can provide information from this game (I didn't see the
whole game). The Finns took the lead on a Jarkko Varvio slap shot from the
blue line, and a soft goal for an unscreened Mike Richter.
As far as the play in the second period goes, the Finns seemed to have the
most control, so a 1-0 lead was warranted as I saw it.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SWEDEN CANADA
Goaltender: 30 Tommy Soderstrom 30 Bill Ranford
Defense: 8 Kenneth Kennholt 5 Norm Maciver
14 Fredrik Stillman 24 Dave Manson
3 Peter Popovic 25 Geoff Smith
55 Peter Andersson 19 Brian Benning
7 Arto Blomsten 6 Terry Carkner
28 Roger Akerstrom 3 Garry Galley
4 Derek Mayer
Forwards: 29 Mikael Renberg 15 Dave Gagner
9 Thomas Rundqvist 27 Adam Graves
34 Mikael Andersson 22 Mike Gartner
19 Markus Naslund 20 Paul Kariya
21 Peter Forsberg 88 Eric Lindros
18 Jonas Bergqvist 8 Mark Recchi
5 Patrik Juhlin 17 Rod Brind'Amour
20 Jan Larsson 9 Shayne Corson
4 Stefan Nilsson 11 Kevin Dineen
22 Charles Berglund 10 Geoff Sanderson
26 Michael Nylander 12 Greg Johnson
(34 Andersson/18 Bergqvist) 14 Brian Savage
16 Kelly Buchberger
--
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\\ //|| etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se
\\_))//-|| r.s.h. contact for Swedish hockey
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7647 | From: pburry@manitou.cse.dnd.ca (Paul Burry)
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI
Organization: Canadian System Security Centre
Lines: 15
In article <C5L6E7.2Dz4@austin.ibm.com> guyd@austin.ibm.com (Guy Dawson) writes:
|> int eh same article the PC would will get plug and play SCSI {from the
|> article it seems you get plug and play SCSI-1 only since SCSI-2 in FULL
|> implimentation has TEN NOT 7 devices.}
|
|I beleive this last bit is just plain wrong!
I believe you are right. Both SCSI and SCSI-2 support 8 devices on the bus
(normally that would be the host controller and 7 targets) each of which
may have up to 8 logical units (LUNs).
--
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Voice: (613)-991-7325 Internet: pburry@cse.dnd.ca
Fax: (613)-991-7323 UUCP: ..!{uunet,cunews}!cse.dnd.ca!pburry
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7648 | From: lord@andersen.com (Bob Lord)
Subject: Re: Duo Dock problems
Organization: Andersen Consulting -- CSTaR
Lines: 37
Distribution: usa
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In <C52GE9.8Ks@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk> phil@csc.liv.ac.uk (Phil Jimmieson) writes:
>Has anyone had any problems with their Duo Dock not ejecting the Duo
>properly?
>When I first got it, the Duo would come out of the Dock a couple of inches
>when ejected, and I had to pull it the rest of the way. Nowadays (and I've
>had the system for 4 months), the Duo doesn't come out *at* *all* - despite
>the fact that the mechanism makes all the appropriate noises, and I have to
>grab hold of it and pull it out myself. Is there a simple fix for this, or
>do I have to return it to my Apple Dealer, where it will languish for weeks
>while I have to make do with no colour display, no VRAM, no floppy or
>SCSI etc.
>(BTW, it's not that the Duo is locked into the Dock - it just doesn't
>want to slide out any more).
>--
>Phil Jimmieson, ***********************************************
>Computer Science Dept., * JANET : phil@uk.ac.liv.csc *
>Liverpool University, * INTERNET : phil@csc.liv.ac.uk *
>PO Box 147 ***********************************************
>Liverpool L69 3BX "I was head over heels in love until I got cramp"
>(UK) 051-794-3689
Also, has anyone heard any rumors that the new docks (the ones with the CPU
:-) will be better designed that this first batch? I love my Duo, but
installing cards in the dock is not much fun.
-Bob
--
Bob Lord 100 South Wacker Room 932
Network Manager Chicago IL, 60606
CSTaR Group, Andersen Consulting 312-507-5353
lord@andersen.com
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7649 | From: sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan)
Subject: Re: Removing Distortion From Bitmapped Drawings?
Organization: CIS, University of Alabama at Birmingham
Lines: 135
In article <1993Apr19.141034.24731@sctc.com> boebert@sctc.com (Earl Boebert) writes:
>Let's say you have a scanned image of a line drawing; in this case a
>boat, but it could be anything. On the drawing you have a set of
>reference points whose true x,y positions are known.
>
>Now you digitize the drawing manually (in this case, using Yaron
>Danon's excellent Digitize program). That is, you use a program which
>converts cursor positions to x,y and saves those values when you click
>the mouse.
>
>Upon digitizing you notice that the reference point values that come
>out of the digitizing process differ in small but significant ways
>from the known true values. This is understandable because the
>scanned drawing is a reproduction of the original and there are
>successive sources of distortion such as differential expansion and
>contraction of paper, errors introduced in the printing process,
>scanner errors and what have you.
>
>The errors are not uniform over the entire drawing, so "global"
>adjustments such as stretching/contracting uniformly over x or y, or
>rotating the whole drawing, are not satisfactory.
>
>So the question is: does any kind soul know of an algorithm for
>removing such distortion? In particular, if I have three sets of
>points
>
>Reference(x,y) (the known true values)
>
>DistortedReference(x,y) (the same points, with known errors)
>
>DistortedData(x,y) (other points, with unknown errors)
>
>what function of Reference and Distorted could I apply to
>DistortedData to remove the errors.
>
>I suspect the problem could be solved by treating the distorted
>reference points as resulting from the projection of a "bumpy" 3d
>surface, solving for the surface and then "flattening" it to remove
>the errors in the other data points.
It helps to have some idea of the source of the distortion - or at least
a reasonable model of the class of distortion. Below is a very short
description of the process which we use; if you have further questions,
feel free to poke me via e-mail.
================================================================
*ASSUME: locally smooth distortion
0) Compute the Delaunay Triangulation of your (x,y) points. This
defines the set of neighbors for each point. If your data are
not naturally convex, you may have very long edges on the convex hull.
Consider deleting these edges.
1) Now, there are two goals:
a) move the DistortedData(x,y) to the Reference(x,y)
b) keep the Length(e) (as measured from the current (x,y)'s)
as close as possible to the DigitizedLength(e) (as measured
using the digitized (x,y)'s).
2) For every point, compute a displacement based on a) and b). For
example:
a) For (x,y) points for which you know the Reference(x,y), you
can move alpha0*(Reference(x,y) - Current(x,y)). This will
slowly move the DistortedReference(x,y) towards the
Reference(x,y).
b) For all other points, examine the current length of each edge.
For each edge, compute a displacement which would make that edge
the correct length (where "correct" is the DigitizedLength).
Take the vector sum of these edge displacements, and move the
point alpha1*SumOfEdgeDisplacements. This will keep the
triangulated mesh consistent with your Digitized mesh.
3) Iterate 2) until you are happy (for example, no point moves very much).
alpha0 and alpha1 need to be determined by experimentation. Consider
how much you believe the Reference(x,y) - i.e., do you absolutely insist
on the final points exactly matching the References, or do you want to
balance some error in matching the Reference against changes in length
of the edges.
WARNING: there are a couple of geometric invariants which must be
observed (essentially, you can't allow the convex hull to change, and
you can't allow triangles to "fold over" neighboring triangles. Both of
these can be handled either by special case checks on the motion of
individual points, or by periodically re-triangulating the points (using
the current positions - but still calculating DigitizedLength from the
original positions. When we first did this, the triangulation time was
prohibitive, so we only did it once. If I were motivated to try and
change code that has been working in production mode for 5 years, I
*might* go back and re-triangulate on every iteration. If you have more
compute power than you know what to do with, you might consider having
every point interact with every other point....but first read up on
linear solutions to the n-body problem.
There are lots of papers in the last 10 years of SIGGRAPH proceedings on
springs, constraints, and energy calculations which are relevant. The
above method is described, in more or less detail in:
@inproceedings{Sloan86,
author="Sloan, Jr., Kenneth R. and David Meyers and Christine A.~Curcio",
title="Reconstruction and Display of the Retina",
booktitle="Proceedings: Graphics Interface '86 Vision Interface '86",
address="Vancouver, Canada",
pages="385--389",
month="May",
year=1986 }
@techreport{Curcio87b,
author="Christine A.~Curcio and Kenneth R.~Sloan and David Meyers",
title="Computer Methods for Sampling, Reconstruction, Display, and
Analysis of Retinal Whole Mounts",
number="TR 87-12-03",
institution="Department of Computer Science, University of Washington",
address="Seattle, WA",
month="December",
year=1987 }
@article{Curcio89,
author="Christine A.~Curcio and Kenneth R.~Sloan and David Meyers",
title="Computer Methods for Sampling, Reconstruction, Display, and
Analysis of Retinal Whole Mounts",
journal="Vision Research",
volume=29,
number=5,
pages="529--540",
year=1989 }
--
Kenneth Sloan Computer and Information Sciences
sloan@cis.uab.edu University of Alabama at Birmingham
(205) 934-2213 115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station
(205) 934-5473 FAX Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
|
7650 | From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: Thumbs up to ESPN
Keywords: ESPN, Detroit, Toronto, Hockey Coverage
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Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: na
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In article <C5sCLK.8B5@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:
>
>What, did you leave the room each of the 100 or so times they said that
>there WERE NO OTHER NIGHT BASEBALL GAMES? Every break they took back at
>the studio mentioned it, followed by 'so...we're gonna show you hockey
>instead.' My wife and I are hoping for rain at every baseball game they
>have a feed for tommorrow night...
>
>Point is, be glad they showed hockey, but if baseball was available
>anywhere else you can bet you would've watched baseball last night.
>
>pete clark
I know that there wasn't other games on the schedule, but ESPN sometimes
shows classic games from previous season to fill in the time slot.
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7651 | From: mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate)
Subject: Re: Yeah, Right
Lines: 30
Benedikt Rosenau writes:
>And what about that revelation thing, Charley?
If you're talking about this intellectual engagement of revelation, well,
it's obviously a risk one takes.
>Many people say that the concept of metaphysical and religious knowledge
>is contradictive.
I'm not an objectivist, so I'm not particularly impressed with problems of
conceptualization. The problem in this case is at least as bad as that of
trying to explain quantum mechanics and relativity in the terms of ordinary
experience. One can get some rough understanding, but the language is, from
the perspective of ordinary phenomena, inconsistent, and from the
perspective of what's being described, rather inexact (to be charitable).
An analogous situation (supposedly) obtains in metaphysics; the problem is
that the "better" descriptive language is not available.
>And in case it holds reliable information, can you show how you establish
>that?
This word "reliable" is essentially meaningless in the context-- unless you
can show how reliability can be determined.
--
C. Wingate + "The peace of God, it is no peace,
+ but strife closed in the sod.
mangoe@cs.umd.edu + Yet, brothers, pray for but one thing:
tove!mangoe + the marv'lous peace of God."
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7652 | From: maley@micro.cs.umn.edu (Michael P Maley)
Subject: Re: GUI Application Frameworks for Windows ??
Nntp-Posting-Host: micro.cs.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Lines: 6
I look at zApp and really liked it. However, I think you should
wait for version 2.0 (I think it will be out soon).
Mike Maley
maley@cs.umn.edu
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7653 | From: debbie@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Debbie Forest)
Subject: Re: Can men get yeast infections?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Lines: 18
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
In article <1993Apr14.184444.24065@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jkis_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Da' Beave) writes:
>
>Well folks, I currently have a yeast infection. I am male.
>[...] your best bet (or at least your husband's)
>is to treat and cure your infection before any intercourse. If you must, use
>a condom. Also, consider other forms of sexual release (ie. handjobs) until
>you are cured.
Though I can't imagine WANTING to have intercourse during a full-blown
yeast infection :-) chances of it being transmitted to the male are quite
low, especially if he's circumcised. But it can happen.
At one point I was getting recurrent yeast infections and the Dr suspected
my boyfriend might have gotten it from me and be reinfecting me. The
prescription was interesting. For each day of the medication (a week) I
was to insert the medication, then to have intercourse. The resulting
action would help the medicine be spread around in me better, and would
simultaneously treat him.
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7654 | From: moy@cae.wisc.edu (Howard Moy)
Subject: How to fix Word subscript spacing?
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Lines: 14
Hi,
I have a problem when using subscripts with MSWord. The
problem is the subscripted characters get cut off on the display,
but print out ok. Anyone know how to fix the subscripts so
I can see them on the screen?
Many thanks,
--
-Howard
_________________________________________________________
! Howard Moy !
! (608) 255-6379 !
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7655 | From: rkoffler@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Bighelmet)
Subject: Re: Best Sportwriters...
Keywords: Sportswriters
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 21
csc2imd@cabell.vcu.edu (Ian M. Derby) writes:
>Since someone brought up sports radio, howabout sportswriting???
I happen to be a big fan of Jayson Stark. He is a baseball writer for the
Philadelphia Inquirer. Every tuesday he writes a "Week in Review" column.
He writes about unusual situations that occured during the week. Unusual
stats. He has a section called "Kinerisms of the Week" which are stupid
lines by Mets brodcaster Ralph Kiner. Every year he has the LGTGAH contest.
That stands for "Last guy to get a hit." He also writes for Baseball
America. That column is sort of a highlights of "Week in Review." If you
can, check his column out sometime. He might make you laugh.
Rob Koffler
--
******************************************************************
|You live day to day and rkoffler@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu|
|dream about tomorrow --Don Henley |
******************************************************************
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7656 | From: fernandeza@merrimack.edu
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA
Lines: 12
In article <Apr.19.05.11.41.1993.29112@athos.rutgers.edu>, aa888@freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Baker) writes:
> I am asking you to believe in things not visible. I don't know if this is
> believeing blindly or not. .... If you decide in advance that your reason
> will act only on the evidence of the five physical senses, then you cut
> reason off from any possibility of reaching a conclusion outside the
> physical sphere
Someone said:
"Thinking if I could see, I would believe. Then someone said
BELIEVE AND YOU WILL SEE!!"
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7657 | From: frosty@world.std.com (Robert J Nunez)
Subject: !!! IBM Games For Sale !!!
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Lines: 62
I would like to sell some software. Shipping is $3 per order - 1 or more
games in the continental U.S. $6 to Canada. Contact me for shipping
to other locations.
Contraption Zack $20
Perfect condition. Unregistered & all docs/disks/packaging
A 3-D puzzle game with great animated graphics. Your tools for
fixing up a manufacturing plant are hidden throughout the levels
and you must solve puzzles to get the tools and then use the tools
to fix the machines. The levels are HUGE and span many screens.
The graphics are cartoony and humorous. (256 color VGA,MCGA,
AdLib,Soundblaster,Roland,3.5")
Legend of Kyrandia $30
Perfect condition. Unregistered & all docs/disks/packaging
An adventure where you are the unknowing heir to the throne of
the kingdom of Kyrandia. An evil jester has murdered your parents,
the king and queen, and attempted to take control of the kingdom,
only to be thwarted by a spell cast upon him by your grandfather
and three other magic users. You must travel to find each of the
magic users to gain use of an amulet that will help you to defeat
the jester. Beautiful graphics and a great soundtrack. (VGA,MCGA,
Adlib,Sound Blaster,SoundBlaster Pro,MT-32/LAPC-1,3.5")
Spirit of Excalibur by Virgin Mastertronic $15
Good condition. All docs/disks/packaging.
A fantasy game combining Role-Playing, adventure, and combat
simulation. You are the Heir to the throne of Britain after Arthur
has died. You must re-unite the land under your rule and then
defend it against an invading army from the north. (EGA, Tandy, MCGA,
VGA, Sound cards, 5.25")
Loom $15
Perfect condition. Unregistered & all docs/disks/packaging.
Received a Computer Gaming World Award for Artistic achievement.
An adventure game where you play the role of a young weaver of
musical spells. You must save your fellow weavers from oblivion
by traveling through the land, casting spells, learning new spells
befriending people you meet, and foiling an evil plot. All
point and click -- no typing. Every action in the game involves
casting your musical spells. (VGA,EGA,CGA,MCGA,TANDY,AdLib,CMS sound,
5.25")
Dark Seed $35
Perfect condition, used very little. Unregistered & all docs/disks/
packaging. An adventure based on the surrealistic and macabre
artwork of H.R. Giger -- the inspiration for Alien, Alien III, and
Poltergeist II. You have just bought an old victorian house
at a bargain in a secluded town. You find that there is a portal
to a dark, sinister world in your house and a plot against the
world as you know it. You must save yourself and your world from
a horrible fate. Gorgeous and Gory high resolution graphics.
(VGA,Adlib,SoundBlaster,3.5")
Conquest of Japan by Impressions $30
Brand new, used only once. Unregistered & all docs/disks/packaging.
Simulation of Samurai conquest. You play the role of a Japanese
Daimyo - a Lord. You control five cities on Japan's main island,
Honshu. Each provides money for you to buy armies, with which
you must conquer your enemy. Battles are fought with Impressions'
Miniature System. You watch the individual Samurai, Mounted Samurai,
Spearmen, Archers, and Arquebusiers. (VGA, Adlib, 3.5" & 5.25")
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7658 | From: jef_i@pt_iwaniw.stars.flab.Fujitsu.JUNET (Jefrem Iwaniw)
Subject: Re: Visual c++
In-Reply-To: David A. Fuess's message of 26 Apr 1993 14: 22:55 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: 192.8.210.197
Organization: Pelican Software Corporation
Distribution: usa
Lines: 20
To clarify:
VC++ *is* considered an upgrade for C7. There will be no product
called C 8.0 (although the command-line compiler of VC++ lists its
version as 8.00). C7 is not a "DOS"-only product -- it is a C/C++
compiler capable of producing executables for DOS or Windows, as is
VC++ (Pro. Ed.). The (significant) difference is that VC++ comes with
many Windows-hosted tools (ide, etc) which assist developers in
creating Windows executables much more quickly (basically by
automating the thousands of lines of boilerplate code). Initial
impressions have been very favorable.
Everyone who is a registered user of C7 should have received a
considerable amount of info regarding the specifics of C7. If you
haven't, call Microsoft and I'm sure they'd be happy to send you some!
-Jefrem Iwaniw
Pelican Software Corporation
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7659 | From: johnson@trwacs.fp.trw.com (Steve Johnson)
Subject: Re: How do they know what keys to ask for? (Re: Clipper)
Organization: TRW Systems Division, Fairfax VA
Lines: 23
brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
[...]
>And of course you have to identify yourself to the phone company, and
>since the phone company complies with court orders, they will know the
>magic number of your chip when they sign out a warrant on you, and
>then can present the warrant to the key escrow house.
Who makes them forget and destroy all copies of the key once they've
decided you're not a criminal today? Just curious.
>--
>Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
------- Any views expressed are those of myself and not my employer. --------
Steven C. Johnson, WB3IRU / VK2GDS |
TRW | johnson@trwacs.fp.trw.com
FP1 / 3133 | [129.193.172.90]
1 Federal Systems Park Drive | Phone: +1 (703) 968.1000
Fairfax, Virginia 22033-4412 U.S.A. | Fax: +1 (703) 803.5189
--
------- Any views expressed are those of myself and not my employer. --------
Steven C. Johnson, WB3IRU / VK2GDS |
TRW | johnson@trwacs.fp.trw.com
FP1 / 3133 | [129.193.172.90]
|
7660 | From: ruocco@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (sergio ruocco)
Subject: Re: HOT NEW 3D Software
Keywords: Imagine,3d
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Lines: 26
I don't have nor Imagine nor Real 3d, but as old
Amiga user I think you should take a look also to
Real 3d 2.0 for the Amiga. I saw Imagine 2.0 on the
Amiga for a long time at my friend's home, and
I've seen R3D 2.0 in action at Bit.Movie 93 in Riccione,
Italy (an Italian Computer Graphics Contest).
Many professionals using 3d Studio on PC, SoftImage
for Silicon Graphics and Imagine on the Amiga were
*VERY IMPRESSED* by the power of this programs.
Sorry, I've lost the posting with full description
of features of this great program.
For more informations give a look in comp.sys.amiga.graphics.
Representative of Activa International told me that
it will be out in 2 weeks for the Amiga and that
PC MS-Windows, Silicon Indigo and Unix version are
under development.
Ciao,
Sergio
--
Sergio Ruocco - ruocco@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it
Via Di Vittorio, 4
I-20019 Settimo Milanese Milano
Phone: 0039-2-3283896
|
7661 | From: bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu (Monthian Buntan-1)
Subject: Re: Fax modem for the Mac
Nntp-Posting-Host: student.tc.umn.edu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Lines: 36
In article <C5LLpo.In2@news2.cis.umn.edu> mbuntan@staff.tc.umn.edu () writes:
>Hi all:
>Thanks to you all who have responded
>to my request for info on various kinds of fax modem.
>I'd like to ask a few more questions.
>1. What are the advantages of buying a global village
>Teleport Gold over other cheaper brands like Supra, Zoom etc?
>2. I heard that both Supra and Zoom use the same software.
>Why are there so many complaints about the incompatibility problems
>of Supra? What kind of incompatibility is it?
>3. If I decided to buy the Teleport Gold, is there any
>possibility to add a voice option in the near future?
>4. Has anyone heard of a possible voice option that Supra will offer
>this coming summer?
>5. A person did mention a new AT&T modem. Is it
>getting good reviews from various Mac Magazines?
>6. If I want the best, fastest, most economically sound and
>possible voice option, what fax modem should I buy?
>
>Sorry for posting so many questions, but I think they're necessary.
>I promise to repost any answers if they're not already posted by a responder.
>
>Thanks so much in advance.
>
>Regards,
>
>Thian.
Since I repost this message again for the second time, I hope to hear from
some folks on this topic. Please reply.
Regards,
Thian.
|
7662 | From: warren@itexjct.jct.ac.il (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Serdar Argic
Organization: ITEX, Jerusalem, Israel
Lines: 42
In <1993Apr13.194543.225925@fourd.com> bill_paxton@fourd.com writes:
>Hello Serdar,
> I would like very much to meet you. Where are you located?
>Let me know as soon as possible where we can meet. I am looking forward to
>meeting you.
I don't know how to reach Serdar, but you might be able to reach his
sysadmin by email, phone, or snail-mail.
Here is information from rs.internic.net:
Ahmet Cosar (ANATOLIA-DOM)
1530 S. 6th St.
Suite C705
Minneapolis, Minnesota, 55454
Domain Name: ANATOLIA.ORG
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Cosar, Ahmet (AC234) cosar@ANATOLIA.ORG
612-376-7873
And here is what "finger cosar@umn.edu" gets you:
name: Ahmet Cosar-1
info: Last registered 1993 Winter Qtr
Internet mailbox: cosa0001@student.tc.umn.edu
other mailbox: PROFS: COSA0001@UMNTCML
postal address: 1530 So 6th St Apt C705
Minneapolis
MN 55454
surname: Cosar
telephone: +1 612-376-7873
title: Grad
userid: cosa0001
X.400 mailbox: /G=Ahmet/S=Cosar-1/OU=mail/O=tc/PRMD=umn.edu/ADMD= /C=us/
--
/|/-\/-\
|__/__/_/
|warren@
/ nysernet.org
|
7663 | From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Re: ISLAM BORDERS vs Israeli borders
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 15
tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
>I too strongly object to those that justify Israeli "rule"
>of those who DO NOT WANT THAT. The "occupied territories" are not
>Israel's to control, to keep, or to dominate.
They certainly are until the Arabs make peace. Only the most leftist/Arabist
lunatics call upon Israel to withdraw now. Most moderates realize that an
Israeli withdrawl will be based on the Camp David/242/338/Madrid formulas
which make full peace a prerequisite to territorial concessions.
>Tim
Ed
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7664 | From: Shane Cheney Wang <sw3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: conner 120mb problem
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu
HI,
Recently, when I run the Norton Disk surface test, I realize a slow
down in harddisk accessing. At begining of the test, the harddisk will
be checked at the speed that usually is. As the surface test scaned
half way through my harddisk, a tremendous slow down occured. The
expected time for operation will jump from 3 to 6 minutes. I try to use
some of the harddisk tools to check if there is any physical damage to
my harddisk and report always turn out to be none. The surface test
only slow down for a certain section of the disk and turn back to the
original speed after it gets over the section. I am wondering whether
it is a harddisk problem or some other problems. Anyway help or comment
will be appriciate....
Shane Cheney Wang
|
7665 | From: young@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (YOUNG Shio Hong)
Subject: Looking for free/share wares
Nntp-Posting-Host: poplar
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan.
Distribution: comp
X-Bytes: 285
Lines: 14
Hi!
I am looking for ftp sites (where there are freewares or sharewares)
for Mac. It will help a lot if there are driver source codes in those
ftp sites. Any information is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
S. Young
Dept. of Info. Sc.
Univ. of Tokyo
email:young@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
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7666 | From: dp@cec1.wustl.edu (David Prutchi)
Subject: Re: EEG Kit?
Nntp-Posting-Host: cec1
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Lines: 30
In article <cantrell.735330560@sauron.msfc.nasa.gov> cantrell@sauron.msfc.nasa.gov (Eric Cantrell) writes:
>Awhile back someone posted some information on where you can get
>kits to build an EEG. Does anyone remember where you could get
>this. I'm very interested in getting some info on this. Thanks
>in advance.
>
>eric
>
>cantrell@sauron.msfc.nasa
>
Contact Circuit Cellar Inc., 4 Park St. - Suite 12, Vernon, CT 06066
(203)875-2751, FAX (203)872-2204 and inquire about HAL-4 EEG Biofeedback
Brainwave Analyzer.
In addition, if you want to build your own system from board-level compo-
nents (biosignal amplifiers, analog isolators and isolated multiplexers)
you can contact The Davron Group,P.O. Box 237, Deerfield, IL 60015
FAX (708)948-9290.
- David
+------------------------------------------------------------+
| David Prutchi HC1DT |
| Washington University <prutchi@mesun4.wustl.edu> |
| Campus Box 1185 <dp@cec1.wustl.edu> |
| One Brookings Drive |
| St. Louis, MO 63130-4899 |
+------------------------------------------------------------+
|
7667 | From: lazaro@pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com (lazaro,matthew)
Subject: Re: VHS movie for sale
Nntp-Posting-Host: pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Lines: 12
In article <1qvk1u$jnu@bigboote.WPI.EDU> martimer@jaguar.WPI.EDU (the random one...) writes:
>In article <1993Apr19.211400.1@hirama.hiram.edu> koutd@hirama.hiram.edu (DOUGLAS KOU) writes:
>>VHS movie for sale.
>>
>>Dance with Wovies ($12.00)
> ^^^^^^ what the hell ios a 'wovie' ?? (wovy (sp))??
>
It's one of those animals you dance with.
But seriously, I saw this video for sale brand new at Palmer Video
for $9 + tx. I guess if I could resell them for $12 I would dance
like a Wovie.
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7668 | From: Petch@gvg47.gvg.tek.com (Chuck Petch)
Subject: Daily Verse
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
Lines: 4
Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap
a harvest if we do not give up.
Galatians 6:9
|
7669 | From: bjcon@cs.mcgill.ca (Brendan NEWMAN)
Subject: Trident VGA Drivers
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Lines: 8
Hi, I have a trident TVGA-8900 video card and need the updated
drivers for Win3.1 where can I get them from an ftp site.
Thanks
BJ.
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7670 | From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: *** The list of Biblical contradictions
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Lines: 30
joslin@pogo.isp.pitt.edu (David Joslin) writes:
>
>I'm curious to know what purpose people think these lists serve.
>Lists like this seem to value quantity over quality, an "argument
>from article length." And the list you have here is of poorer
>quality than most.
I agree, which is why I've asked for help with it.
The reason I'm working on this list is because I've recently had one
too many Christians tell me "the Bible contains no contradictions
whatsoever." They believe that it's true, and that it describes
reality perfectly, and even predicts history before it happens.
Before I can carry on any sort of meaningful conversation with these
people, I've got to SHOW them, with concrete evidence, that the Bible
is not nearly as airtight as they thought. I hope to do that with
this list.
Specifically: when I bring up the fact that Genesis contains two
contradictory creation stories, I usually get blank stares or flat
denials. I've never had a fundamentalist acknowledge that there are
indeed two different accounts of creation.
--
_/_/_/ Brian Kendig Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/ bskendig@netcom.com de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/ n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
/ The meaning of life Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
/ is that it ends. -- Rousseau
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7671 | From: Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (Clinton/Gore '92)
Subject: CLINTON: War Powers Resolution on Bosnia 4.14.93
Organization: Project GNU, Free Software Foundation,
675 Mass. Ave., Cambridge, MA 02139, USA +1 (617) 876-3296
Lines: 102
NNTP-Posting-Host: life.ai.mit.edu
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
_______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 14, 1993
TEXT OF A LETTER FROM THE PRESIDENT
TO THE SPEAKER OF THE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND
THE PRESIDENT PRO TEMPORE OF THE SENATE
April 13, 1993
Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President:)
As part of my continuing effort to keep the Congress fully
informed, I am providing this report, consistent with section 4
of the War Powers Resolution, to advise you of actions that I
have ordered in support of the United Nations efforts in
Bosnia-Herzegovina.
Beginning with U.N. Security Council Resolution 713 of
September 25, 1991, the United Nations has been actively
addressing the crisis in the former Yugoslavia. The Security
Council acted in Resolution 781 to establish a ban on all
unauthorized military flights over Bosnia-Herzegovina. There
have, however, been blatant violations of the ban, and villages
in Bosnia have been bombed.
In response to these violations, the Security Council decided,
in Resolution 816 of March 31, 1993, to extend the ban to all
unauthorized flights over Bosnia-Herzegovina and to authorize
Member States, acting nationally or through regional organi-
zations, to take all necessary measures to ensure compliance.
NATO's North Atlantic Council (NAC) agreed to provide NATO air
enforcement for the no-fly zone. The U.N. Secretary General
was notified of NATO's decision to proceed with Operation DENY
FLIGHT, and an activation order was delivered to participating
allies.
The United States actively supported these decisions. At my
direction, the Joint Chiefs of Staff sent an execute order to
all U.S. forces participating in the NATO force, for the conduct
of phased air operations to prevent flights not authorized by
the United Nations over Bosnia-Herzegovina. The U.S. forces
initially assigned to this operation consist of 13 F-15 and
12 F-18A fighter aircraft and supporting tanker aircraft.
These aircraft commenced enforcement operations at 8:00 a.m.
e.d.t. on April 12, 1993. The fighter aircraft are equipped for
combat to accomplish their mission and for self-defense.
NATO has positioned forces and has established combat air
patrol (CAP) stations within the control of Airborne Early
Warning (AEW) aircraft. The U.S. CAP aircraft will normally
operate from bases in Italy and from an aircraft carrier in the
Adriatic Sea. Unauthorized aircraft entering or approaching
the no-fly zone will be identified, interrogated, intercepted,
escorted/monitored, and turned away (in that order). If these
steps do not result in compliance with the no-fly zone, such
aircraft may be engaged on the basis of proper authorization by
NATO military authorities and in accordance with the approved
more
(OVER)
2
rules of engagement, although we do not expect such action will
be necessary. The Commander of UNPROFOR (the United Nations
Protection Force currently operating in Bosnia-Herzegovina) was
consulted to ensure that his concerns for his force were fully
considered before the rules of engagement were approved.
It is not possible to predict at this time how long such
operations will be necessary. I have directed U.S. armed forces
to participate in these operations pursuant to my constitutional
authority as Commander in Chief. I am grateful for the con-
tinuing support that the Congress has given to this effort, and
I look forward to continued cooperation as we move forward
toward attainment of our goals in this region.
Sincerely,
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
# # #
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7672 | From: iacs3650@Oswego.EDU (Kevin Mundstock)
Subject: My Predictions For 1993
Reply-To: iacs3650@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Kevin Mundstock)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY
Lines: 62
Since everyone else seems to be running wild with predictions, I've
decided to add my own fuel to the fire:
They might seem a bit normal, but there are a few (albeit, small) surprises.
American League East W L GB
1)New York Yankees 93 69 --
2)Baltimore Orioles 90 72 3
3)Toronto Blue Jays 86 76 7
4)Cleveland Indians 84 78 9
5)Boston Red Sox 77 85 16
6)Milwaukee Brewers 74 88 19
7)Detroit Tigers 73 89 20
American League West W L GB
1)Minnesota Twins 94 68 --
2)Kansas City Royals 92 70 2
3)Texas Rangers 85 77 9
4)Chicago White Sox 77 85 17
5)Oakland Athletics 74 88 20
6)Seattle Mariners 70 92 24
7)California Angels 65 97 29
AL MVP-Kirby Puckett
AL Cy Young-Kevin Appier
AL Rookie of the Year-Tim Salmon
AL Manager of the Year-Buck Showalter
AL Comeback Player of the Year-Ozzie Guillen
National League East W L GB
1)St. Louis Cardinals 91 71 --
2)Philadelphia Phillies 89 73 2
3)Montreal Expos 88 74 3
4)New York Mets 84 78 7
5)Chicago Cubs 79 83 12
6)Pittsburgh Pirates 73 89 18
7)Florida Marlins 54 108 37
National League West W L GB
1)Atlanta Braves 96 66 --
2)Cincinnati Reds 94 68 2
3)Houston Astros 89 73 7
4)Los Angeles Dodgers 82 80 14
5)San Francisco Giants 81 81 15
6)San Diego Padres 75 87 21
7)Colorado Rockies 59 103 37
NL MVP-Barry Larkin
NL Cy Young-John Smoltz
NL Rookie of the Year-Wil Cordero
NL Manager of the Year-Joe Torre
NL Comeback Player of the Year-Eric Davis
NL Champions-St. Louis Cardinals
AL Champions-Minnesota Twins
World Champions-St. Louis Cardinals
The St. Louis picks are what my heart says.
What my brain says, is they will win the division, lose to the Braves
in the NLCS, and the Braves will win the Series against Minnesota.
But for now, I'll stick with the Cards all the way.
Kevin
|
7673 | Subject: Re: Trying to view POV files.....
From: dane@nermal.santarosa.edu (Dane Jasper)
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA
Nntp-Posting-Host: nermal.santarosa.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 15
Edward d Nobles (ednobles@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU) wrote:
: I've been trying to view .tga files created in POVRAY. I have the Diamond
: SpeedStar 24 Video board (not the _24X_). So far I can convert them to
: jpeg using cjpeg and view them with CVIEW but that only displays 8 bit color.
..
: Just want to see the darn things in real color...
I have an ATI ultra pro card, and have found that the easiest way to view
true color images is using their windows drivers and something like winjpeg
or photofinish.
If anyone has a non-windows solution, I'd love to hear it!
Dane
|
7674 | From: hilmi-er@dsv.su.se (Hilmi Eren)
Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES
Lines: 118
Nntp-Posting-Host: viktoria.dsv.su.se
Reply-To: hilmi-er@dsv.su.se (Hilmi Eren)
Organization: Dept. of Computer and Systems Sciences, Stockholm University
Henrik?? and Hilmi writes:
|>henrik] The Armenians in Nagarno-Karabagh are simply DEFENDING their
|>henrik] RIGHTS to keep their homeland and it is the AZERIS that are
|>henrik] INVADING their homeland.
|>HE] Homeland? First Nagarno-Karabagh was Armenians homeland today
|>HE] Fizuli, Lacin and several villages (in Azerbadjan)
|>HE] are their homeland. Can't you see the
|>HE] the "Great Armenia" dream in this? With facist methods like
|>HE] killing, raping and bombing villages. The last move was the
|>HE] blast of a truck with 60 kurdish refugees, trying to
|>HE] escape the from Lacin, a city that was "given" to the Kurds
|>HE] by the Armenians.
|>Nagorno-Karabakh is in Azerbaijan not Armenia. Armenians have lived in Nagorno-
|>Karabakh ever since there were Armenians. Armenians used to live in the areas
|>between Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh and this area is being used to invade
|>Nagorno- Karabakh. Armenians are defending themselves. If Azeris are dying
|>because of a policy of attacking Armenians, then something is wrong with this
|>policy. ************
Attacking? Who is attacking who? Even the country you live in,USA, have condemned
Armenia for it's attacking. And you start to say that the attackers
are the Azeris?????
|>Armenians have lived in Nagorno Karabakh ever since there were Armenians
?????
Azeris have lived in Nagorno Karabakh ever since there were Azeris...
Don't come with nonsence, there is no reason to attack a people
just because a man called "Gorbatjov and co." gave the "freedom" to the people
in this area.
|>If I recall correctly, it was Stalin who caused all this problem with land
|>in the first place, not the Armenians.
It's easy for people like you to blame history. The were a lot of
Indians living in USA. There is no reason for these
Indians to attack the "American"
people and say:"It was the fault of the government of Germany and Great
Britain, because they made people come to our place......" Armenians lived in
harmony with the Azeris until "Gorbatjov and co." gave "freedom" to the people
in Karabag, then the Armenians started to kill, rape and torture the Azeris, not only
in Karabag but also noe in Azerbadjan....
|>henrik] However, I hope that the Armenians WILL force a TURKISH airplane
|>henrik] to LAND for purposes of SEARCHING for ARMS similar to the one
|>henrik] that happened last SUMMER. Turkey searched an AMERICAN plane
|>henrik] (carrying humanitarian aid) bound to ARMENIA.
|>HE] Don't speak about things you don't know: 8 U.S. Cargo planes
|>HE] were heading to Armenia. When the Turkish authorities
|>HE] announced that they were going to search these cargo
|>HE] planes 3 of these planes returned to it's base in Germany.
|>HE] 5 of these planes were searched in Turkey. The content of
|>HE] of the other 3 planes? Not hard to guess, is it? It was sure not
|>HE] humanitarian aid.....
|>What story are you talking about? Planes from the U.S. have been sending
|>aid into Armenian for two years. I would not like to guess about what were in
|>the 3 planes in your story, I would like to find out.
|>HE] Search Turkish planes? You don't know what you are talking about.
|>HE] Turkey's government has announced that it's giving weapons
|>HE] to Azerbadjan since Armenia started to attack Azerbadjan
|>HE] it self, not the Karabag province. So why search a plane for weapons
|>HE] since it's content is announced to be weapons?
|>It's too bad you would want Turkey to start a war with Armenia.
That's what i don't want, you couldn't imagine the result of a war.....
So France, Greece and USA wants to start fighting with Azerbadjan????
They give a lot more weapons to the Armenians without
saying it, that's no secret any more......
I must say that these Armenian Government is very shortsighted.
Do they think that they shall move from it's neigbours when the war
is over???? The neighbour around will be there and Armenia must
live in harmony with these if they don't want a "stone-age" country,
for that's what's will happen Armenia if the wars continues.
Look, The President of Turkey, Turgut Ozal, died and Petrosyan
the Armenian Presindent is now in Turkey for the funeral. Is it because
he liked him? Sure NOT, because Armenia needs it's neighbours and must
live with these. But Armenia can't stop this war with continued ordertaking
from states like France and USA. With other words, if you love your people
you must think twice.....
And i wonder, "Shoot down turkish planes" WITH WHAT????? ohhh i forgot
the Armenians can't find food but there are a lot of arms from the mentioned
countries.....
Hilmi Eren
Stockholm University
Sweden
|
7675 | From: zyeh@caspian.usc.edu (zhenghao yeh)
Subject: Re: Fast wireframe graphics
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 14
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: caspian.usc.edu
In article <C5tK4u.C6t@cs.columbia.edu>, ykim@cs.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) writes:
|>
|> I am working on a program to display 3d wireframe models with the user
|> being able to arbitrarily change any of the viewing parameters. Also,
|> the wireframe objects are also going to have dynamic attributes so
|> that they can move around while the user is "exploring" the wireframe
|> world.
Why don't you consider PHIGS in X or PEX lib?
Yeh
USC
|
7676 | From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
Subject: Re: opinions of RC2 alg.
Reply-To: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Lines: 18
Markowitz@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL writes:
> It is interesting to note in this regard that permission to export
> PKZIP's encryption scheme has twice been denied by NSA. Draw you own
> conclusions.
Uh, I'm afraid that your information is slightly out of date... PKWare
has obtained a license to export their program to the whole world,
except a very limited list of countries... Draw your own conclusions
about the strength of the algorithm... :-)
Regards,
Vesselin
--
Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
|
7677 | From: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney)
Subject: Re: *Doppelganger* (was Re: Vulcan? No, not Spock or Haphaestus)
Article-I.D.: mojo.1qkn6rINNett
Reply-To: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Aided Design Lab, U. of Maryland College Park
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: queen.eng.umd.edu
In article <1993Apr15.170048.1@fnalf.fnal.gov>, higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) writes:
>This was known as *Journey to the Far Side of the Sun* in the United
>States and as *Doppelganger* in the U.K... Later, they went
>on to do more live-action SF series: *UFO* and *Space: 1999*.
>
>The astronomy was lousy, but the lifting-body spacecraft, VTOL
>airliners, and mighty Portugese launch complex were *wonderful* to
>look at.
They recycled a lot of models and theme music for UFO. Some of the
concepts even showed up in SPACE: 1999.
Software engineering? That's like military intelligence, isn't it?
-- > SYSMGR@CADLAB.ENG.UMD.EDU < --
|
7678 | From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
Subject: Re: Some more about gun control...
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Lines: 42
In article <1993Apr14.232806.18970@beaver.cs.washington.edu> graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham) writes:
>In article <1qhpcn$b12@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>>Consider a similar structure:
>>"A well-educated electorate, being necessary for the security of a
>>free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not
>>be infringed."
>>
>>Now, does this mean only the electorate can keep and read books? Does{
>>it mean only registered voters can keep and read books? Does it mean
>>only those who have voted can keep and read books? Does it imply any
>>restrictions AT ALL on the right to keep and read books?
>
>But it would imply that the state had the right to regulate and enforce
>education.
That's nice, but it doesn't answer the question. There is a difference
between "the feds can mandate literacy" and "the feds can't interfere
with literacy/book possession".
>>As far as "John Q. Public with a gun," the Supreme Court has already
>>ruled in cases such as US v. Miller (307 U.S. 175 (1939)), and US v.
>>Verdugo-Urquidez (110 S. Ct. 1839 (1990)) that that is EXACTLY what
>>the amendment protects. This interpretation can be found as far back
>>as the Dred Scott case, in 1857.
>
>It's worth noting that US vs. Miller sustained Miller's conviction
>of possession of an illegal firearm, noting that a sawed-off shotgun
>was not a proper militia weapon. Therefore, US vs. Miller supports
>limited government regulation of firearms.
Actually, the Miller court did nothing of the kind. It remanded
the case back to the trial court because the miller court didn't
know if the weapon in question was a militia weapon. (Doesn't it
bother anyone that a major constitutional issue was taken up in
a case where there was no defense? Miller had been released by
the appeals court and disappeared - only the govt was represented.)
We don't know what would have happened with the reasonable "all guns
are militia weapons" argument.
-andy
--
|
7679 | From: s106275@ee.tut.fi (Anssi Saari)
Subject: Re: Soundblaster IRQ and Port settings
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Lines: 16
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.tut.fi
In <1993Apr16.105809.22218@walter.cray.com> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes:
>I would also like an explanation of this. If anyone can explain
>why the SB Pro and LPT 1 can share an IRQ, please do so.
I think it's simply because DOS doesn't use the IRQ for anything. OS/2 does,
so with that you can't share the IRQ.
Anssi
--
Anssi Saari s106275@ee.tut.fi
Tampere University of Technology
Finland, Europe
|
7680 | From: Graham Toal <gtoal@gtoal.com>
Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip)
Originator: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk
Nntp-Posting-Host: pizzabox.demon.co.uk
Reply-To: Graham Toal <gtoal@gtoal.com>
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Lines: 9
In article <1993Apr20.192105.11751@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
:Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack
:has 2^80 possible keys.
We don't yet know if all 80 bits count. Anyway, its looking like the
keys and escrow arrangements are smoke and mirrors to cover the way the NSA
can regenerate the key from the transmitted serial number.
G
|
7681 | From: laszlo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Tyson F Nuss)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Lines: 37
Reply-To: laszlo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: laszlo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From article <1pq6i2$a1f@news.ysu.edu>, by ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker):
>
> Cup holders (driving is an importantant enough undertaking)
> Ashtrays (smokers seem to think it's just fine to use the road)
Oh, sure -- sorry, but the absence of a cupholder is not gonna
discourage anyone from eating/drinking in the car; let's just put one
in anyway, so at least they don't have the further distraction of trying
not to spill it.
Furthermore, you are obviously not a smoker; on a cold day, it
takes a certain skill to toss a butt out of a cracked window without having
it wind-deflect into the back seat. Also, just 'cause some smokers use
the window, doesn't mean all of us do.
This reminds me of *one* pleasant feature in the otherwise
ergonomically-hellish interior of the Alfa Romeo Milano: you could ash
your cigarette without even removing your hand from the wheel; the 'tray
was *right*there*.
> Fake convertible roofs and vinyl roofs.
> Any gold trim.
These, I will agree, are abominations, right along with the fake
continental spare-tire kit -- it's sad watching those little old ladies
try to load their groceries into the trunk with that huge tire-medallion
in the way.
Most pitiful fake convertible top: on a "Cadillac" Cimarron, with
all the chrome door trim still visible -- not fooling *anyone*.
Of course, there was that Hyundai Excel I once saw...
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___ A laszlo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
| | {*} Redhead Afficionado Extraordinaire *and*
| | __V__ Little Canadia's Minister of Fine Tobaccos
|_|o_|%%%|0_ Cigaret brands sampled: 55 import/luxury, 17 handrolling
| |
| | These opinions are not necessarily mine (or mine, either).
|_______| -----> Can anyone bum me a .sig?
|
7682 | From: traven@pitt.edu (Neal Traven)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Lines: 21
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
ma_ind25@blurt.oswego.edu wrote:
: I believe that Rusty Staub was also a jewish ball-player
: Also, Mordaci Brown back in the early 20th century. He was a pitcher whose
: nickname was "3 fingers" Brown....for obvious reasons....he had 3 fingers.
0 for 2, ma_ind25.
Daniel Patrick Staub is a Catholic school kid from Nawlins, Mordecai
Brown a farm kid (probably Protestant) from somewhere in the Midwest.
He lost those fingers in a farm machinery accident.
Jim Palmer isn't Jewish himself, but Mr. Jockey Shorts's adoptive
parents are.
Also, I'm not absolutely certain that Carew actually converted. His
wife and children certainly are Jewish.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
neal traven+@pitt.edu You're only young once, but you can be
traven@vms.cis.pitt.edu immature forever. -- Larry Andersen
|
7683 | From: kasajian@netcom.com (Kenneth Kasajian)
Subject: Re: How can I use the mouse in NON-Windows applications under MS-WINDOWS ?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 23
wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar) writes:
> Hey,
> could somebody tell me, how it is possible to work with the mouse
> in a NON-Windows application, which runs in an window. We use
> MS-WINDOWS 3.1 and have CLIPPER applications. Exists there any
> routines or something else ? Please mail me your informations.
> Thanks for your efforts,
> Oliver
>--
> NAME : O.Kretzschmar Inst.IKE / University Stuttgart
> PHONE: +49 711 685 2130 Pfaffenwaldring 31
> FAX : +49 711 685 2010 7000 Stuttgart 80
> EMAIL: wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de
Very simple. You have to have the MOUSE.COM or MOUSE.SYS loaded in DOS
before you run Windows. Note that you don't need to have these files loaded
to use the mouse in Windows.
|
7684 | From: qtm2w@virginia.edu (Quinn T. McCord)
Subject: Questions from a newbie
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 56
Is life a pass/fail course, and does God grade on a
curve?
I'm new here, and only vaguely religious, but I want to
know what some of you people think. Specifically, are there an
infinite number of Heavens, and a person goes to the one that
he/she deserves? Or is it simply Heaven or nothing (Hell?)
Also, are we "graded" by those around us, or has there always
been some unchanging method? Is the person's childhood taken
into account?
I'm sure these must sound like over-simplifications to
most of you, but I figure that you're the experts.
-Quinn
[Eschatology is an area on which Christians do not agree. I suspect
that's because our primary source of information is prophets and
visionaries, and their writings tend to be highly symbolic. However
both Jesus' teachings in the Gospels and books such as the Revelation
to John talk primarily about the difference between eternal life and
eternal death. On a number of occasions Jesus does say things that
imply some sort of differentiation, e.g. Lk 10:14 and a number of
similar passages where Jesus says things like "even XXX will be better
off than you in the judgement." Also, I Cor 3 talks about someone who
gets into heaven, but by the skin of his teeth, as it were. But these
passages are not normally interpreted as suggesting separate heavens,
so much as differing levels of prestige or punishment in heaven or
hell (and not all Christians would even go as far as that). The only
Christian group I know of that believes in multiple heavens is the
Mormons, and they are very far from mainstream Christianity (far
enough that many of our readers would not call them Christian). Their
ideas in this area involve specific Mormon revelations, in addition
to the Bible and "Holy Tradition" of a more generic Christian sort.
Note that many Christians will cringe at the very thought of
associating grading with God. The whole point of Christ was to free
us from the results of a test that we couldn't possibly pass. If you
like test analogies, God grades on a very strict and unbending scale,
but he also cheats -- he replaces our test papers with an exam that
was prepared by the teacher, before actually doing the grading.
Because some people end up in heaven and others in hell, it's easy to
see why you'd be inclined to think of it as grading. While there are
differences among branches of Christianity on details, I think we all
agree that in one way or another, God cheats.
I am personally very sceptical about anyone who claims to know exactly
how far God's cheating extends. Will he accept people who don't
explicitly acknowledge Christ, but somehow still follow him in their
hearts? Many Christians believe that this is possible, at least in
principle, but certainly not all do. Jesus provided us with a clear
description of how to be saved, but it's not clear to me that he
provided an exact description of how he's going to place the dividing
line. Certainly he made it clear that we can't expect to know whether
other individuals are saved or not.
--clh]
|
7685 | From: mjr4u@Virginia.EDU ("Matthew J. Rush")
Subject: Re: Octopus in Detroit?
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 16
d_jaracz@oz.plymouth.edu writes:
> In article <93106.092246DLMQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> Harold Zazula <DLMQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> >I was watching the Detroit-Minnesota game last night and thought I saw an
> >octopus on the ice after Ysebaert scored to tie the game at two. What gives?
>
> No no no!!! It's a squid! Keep the tradition alive! (Kinda like the
> fish at UNH games....)
>
Actually, the way I understand it, it is an octapus.
Apparently, a number of years ago, a fan threw an octapus on
the ice and the announcer said "Octapi will not occupy the ice"
or something like that, and it's happened ever since. The fans
cheer those who pick up the dead octapus with their hands, and
boo those who use a shovel.
Matt at UVA
|
7686 | From: mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck Chuck Bo-Buck... McMath)
Subject: Re: Giants' GM Quinn *is* a genius!
Organization: Ross Perot Ear Admiration Society
Lines: 37
In article <80416@apple.apple.COM>, chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
wrote:
>
> mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck Chuck Bo-Buck... McMath) writes:
>
>
>
> >"When the Giants protected Mike Benjamin (career average .160) ovre pitcher
> >Pat Rapp, there were surprised looks in the Bay Area
>
> >Benjamin's stats: .333/.364/.571, 42 ab, 14 H, 4 doubles, 2 dingers.
>
> >And Rapp's even been sent down to AAA. So it's even *better* than that,
> >eh?
>
> Of course, the protected list was done by the OLD regime, not the new, so
> this is Rosen's baby, not Quinn's.
>
> And I'll tell you what. Let's look at this again at the end of the season,
> and, say in three years, and see who the genius is. One of the more
> braindead decisions by the OldGiants, IMHO. Even if Benjamin DOES improve
> markedly over the past (and his hitting is better) he's never going to be
> more than a utility/backup IF. Rapp might turn into a top-flight arm in
> another year.
I think the next time I post something like this, I obviously need to make
the sarcasm a bit more obvious...
chuck
|- chuck mcmath - mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov - MSD, Inc. ---------------|
|- National Library of Medicine - National Institutes of Health -----|
|- Bethesda, MD 20894 ----------- No noose is good noose ------------|
|- "Hey batter, hey batter, hey batter, swing" - Anon. --------------|
|------------ This opinion influenced by cosmic radiation -----------|
|
7687 | From: m91nen@tdb.uu.se (Nils Engstrom)
Subject: Re: compiling on sun4_411
Organization: Department of Scientific Computing, Uppsala University
Lines: 15
In article <Yfo=qfe00WB2QzZ7EZ@andrew.cmu.edu> Wilson Swee <ws8n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>_sin
>_cos
>_pow
>_floor
Link with '-lm' (math library).
>_get_wmShellWidgetClass
>_get_applicationShellWidgetClass
This is a bug in Sun's shared libraries. Linking with
'-assert nodefinitions' should do the trick.
n
|
7688 | From: sbp002@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Torre: The worst manager?
Lines: 26
Nntp-Posting-Host: acad.drake.edu
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
In article <93095@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt7469a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian R. Landmann) writes:
> Joe Torre has to be the worst manager in baseball.
>
> For anyone who didn't see Sunday's game,
>
> With a right hander pitching he decides to bench Lankform, a left handed
> hitter and play jordan and gilkey, both right handers.
>
> Later, in the ninth inning with the bases loaded and two outs he puts
> lankford, a 300 hitter with power in as a pinch runner and uses Luis
> Alicea, a 250 hitter with no power as a pinch hitter. What the Hell
> is he thinking.
Educate yourself before you rip on this years manager of the year.
Lankford injured himself in a previous game and Torre was resting
him.
As far as the Whitten/Gilkey controversy. Whitten adds some more
needed power, and if Jordan continues to hit the way he has been,
Gilkey will find himself in the starting lineup soon enough.
Sam
> Brian Landmann
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> Internet:gt7469a@prism.gatech.edu
|
7689 | From: steinark@edb.tih.no (Steinar Kleven)
Subject: Re: Windows Help
Nntp-Posting-Host: beta.edb.tih.no
Organization: Trondheim College of Engineering
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Lines: 38
Mario Veraart (mveraart@fel.tno.nl) wrote:
: umyin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Qing Yin) writes:
: >Hi, it's an *easy* question for you Windows gurus. I'd appreciate any help.
: >We need to write an on-line help for our application. We don't have
: >Windows Software Developer's Toolkit (yet :-) ). Since we just want to build
: >a .HLP file around Windows' help engine, I hope it won't be that complicated?
: >Anyway, could someone kindly give me some hints of how to build such an
: >on-line help, if it does not take 100 pages to explain? Or if it is complicated,
: >would you help to point out what I would need to do it?
: >--
: >Vincent Q. Yin
: >umyin@ccu.umanitoba.ca
: Hi,
: If you have developed your own windows application you must have a
: SDK of some sort that contains the HC.EXE or HC31.EXE file to
: compile and generate .HLP files out of .RTF files.
****-------> No, U can download what??.zip from ftp.cica.indiana.edu
This package from MS is all U need to buid (simple?) .HLP
files from Rich Text Format Files (.RTF). This package
also contains .DOT tamplates for MS Word4Win.
: RTF files are generated by a wordprocessor like Word for Dos or W4W.
: If this is not the solution be more specific about your application.
: Mario
: --
: Mario Veraart TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
: email: rioj7@fel.tno.nl The Hague The Netherlands
: "If all else fails, show pretty pictures and animated videos,
: and don't talk about performance", David Bailey
|
7690 | From: lmvec@westminster.ac.uk (William Hargreaves)
Subject: Re: Help
Organization: University of Westminster
Lines: 26
: > I'm a commited Christian that is battling with a problem. I know
: > that romans talks about how we are saved by our faith not our deeds, yet
: > hebrews and james say that faith without deeds is useless, saying' You fools,
: > do you still think that just believing is enough?'
:
: [Stuff deleted]
:
: > Now I am of the opinion that you a saved through faith alone (not what you do)
: > as taught in Romans, but how can I square up in my mind the teachings of James
: > in conjunction with the lukewarm Christian being 'spat-out'
: >
: > Can anyone help me, this really bothers me.
:
I have received tons of mail from people replying to this article I wrote, and
I would just like to thank everyone who took the time to give me a hand. It
has indeed helped me and re-affirmed alot of theories that I held but was a
little unsure about.
God bless you all
Will
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| Dallas Cowboys - World Champions 1992-93 |
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|
7691 | From: ingles@engin.umich.edu (Ray Ingles)
Subject: Re: Concerning God's Morality (long)
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Lines: 32
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: syndicoot.engin.umich.edu
In article <1993Apr5.084042.822@batman.bmd.trw.com> jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com writes:
>In article <1993Apr3.095220.24632@leland.Stanford.EDU>, galahad@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Compton) writes:
[deletions]
>> Now, back to your post. You have done a fine job at using
>> your seventh grade 'life science' course to explain why
>> bad diseases are caused by Satan and good things are a
>> result of God. But I want to let you in on a little secret.
>> "We can create an amino acid sequence in lab! -- And guess
>> what, the sequence curls into a helix! Wow! That's right,
>> it can happen without a supernatural force."
>
>Wow! All it takes is a few advanced science degrees and millions
>of dollars of state of the art equipment. And I thought it took
>*intelligence* to create the building blocks of life. Foolish me!
People with advanced science degrees use state of the art equipment
and spend millions of dollars to simulate tornadoes. But tornadoes
do not require intelligence to exist.
Not only that, the equipment needed is not really 'state of the art.'
To study the *products*, yes, but not to generate them.
>If you want to be sure that I read your post and to provide a
>response, send a copy to Jim_Brown@oz.bmd.trw.com. I can't read
>a.a. every day, and some posts slip by. Thanks.
Oh, I will. :->
Sincerely,
Ray Ingles || The above opinions are probably
|| not those of the University of
ingles@engin.umich.edu || Michigan. Yet.
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7692 | From: hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: The Tories could win the "lottery"...Clinton GST?
Lines: 42
Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: DESYDeutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
In article <1993Apr15.053553.16427@news.columbia.edu>, gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
|>cmk@world.std.com (Charles M Kozierok) writes:
|>>gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
|>>}
|>>} Secondly, any Canadian who has worked and participates in the
|>>} insurance (it's a negative option, you have to explicitly decline
|>>} it) knows that the premium is deducted separately ...
|>>
|>>yes, and some Americans actually have a problem with having more
|>>of their money taken from them to pay for others' health care...
|>
|>But note again, the Canadian and German health insurance is voluntary
Not true. I am required to have insurance by law. the method of collection
effectively makes it a tax.
|>... but like "basic plus" cable, you have to tell them that you don't
|>want it ... for example, Hutterite colonies in western Canada are not
|>part of it (Mennon and Hutter were fundamentalist Protestants from
|>Germany whose followers left for the New World ... Mennonites are a
|>very diverse lot while Hutterites are similiar to the Amish). The
|>American idea being floated today gives you no option but to live
|>off the land ...
|>
|>>the selfish bastards that they are. unfortunately, that number has
|>>diminished recently, but once President Pinocchio gets through
|>>with us, i hope for a reversal of trend.
Well here we have the right hoping for more selfish bastards. Pity they
don't look at what 12 years of the Regan/Bush "selfish Bastard" ecconomy
has done to the country.
Elect a selfish bastard government and they will run the country for themselves,
thats why they are selfish bastards. Bush and Regan gave tax breaks for the
ultra rich and paid for them by borrowing against the incomes of the middle
class.
Phill Hallam-Baker
|
7693 | From: dunnjj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (DUNN JONATHAN JAMES)
Subject: Re: Photo radar (was Re: rec.autos: Frequently Asked Questions)
Keywords: Monthly Posting
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Lines: 18
>Photo radar and mailed tickets make no sense at all. Speeding is a moving
>violation, committed by the operator, not the owner. The owner may be a
>rental agency, a dealer, a private party, or a government agency. As long
>as the owner has no reason to expect the operator will be driving illegally
>or unsafely, the owner cannot be held responsible for what the operator does.
>The car may even have been driven without the owner's knowledge or consent.
>I can't believe a mailed ticket, where the driver is not identified, would
>stand up in court. This is obviously a lazy, cynical, boneheaded, fascist
>way to extort revenue, and has nothing to do with public safety.
>- BK
What do photo radar units look like? Also, what major U.S. cities use it?
>Jon Dunn<
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7694 | From: gpatapis@boyd.tansu.com.au (George Patapis)
Subject: Re: DESQview/X on a PC?
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Lines: 42
Distribution: world
Reply-To: gpatapis@boyd.tansu.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: boyd.cssc-syd.tansu.com.au
In article 14595639@wl.aecl.ca, harrisp@wl.aecl.ca () writes:
>I use DESQview/X and I think it is great. Where it really shines (IMHO) is
>to let unix users log into a pc and run dos and windows applications with
>the display going to their screens.
>You'll need to get:
>DESQview/X v 1.1
>DESQview/X v 1.1 $275 suggested retail
>DESQview/X to Other X Systems v 1.1 $200 suggested retail
>
>You also must be running a supported network (FTP softwares PCTCP,
>Novell Lan workplace for dos, Sun Microsystems PC-NFS, Beame and WHiteside,
>Wollongong pathway TCPIp or HP Microsoft Lan Manager)
>
>if you don't have any of this network stuff, Quarterdeck will give you a
>copy of Novell TCPIP transprot for dos with the Network manager.
>
>You can get more info by sending email to (appropriately) info@qdeck.com.
>
>In my opinion, if you want to have other people logging in and running
>applications at your pc, you'll want to have a 486 33 with 16 Megs of RAM.
>Also, the Xwindows software in DESQviewX really seems to like an ET 4000
>(TSENG Labs chipset) based graphics card. Personally, I found that things
>ran better with a SCSI drive in the pc than with ESDI drives, but that is
>my experience only
>
> Good Luck and Best Wishes
> Phil
What sort of traffic is generated with the X-calls? I am curious to find
out the required bandwidth that a link must have if one machine running
DV/X is supporting multiple users (clients) and we require adequate response
time. Anyone have any ideas ??
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__/ __/ George Patapis ---------------------PAN METRON ARISTON---------- __/ __/
__/ __/ C.S.S.C Lane Cove-----------email:gpatapis@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au __/ __/
__/ __/ P.O.Box A792 Sydney South --fax :(02) 911 3 199---------------- __/ __/
__/ __/ NSW, 2000, Australia.-------voice:(02) 911 3 121---------------- __/ __/
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7695 | From: jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly)
Subject: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx
Organization: Banzai Institute
Lines: 19
Nntp-Posting-Host: mycroft.rand.org
May as well look at one piece of this at a time. This paragraph:
>To demonstrate the effectiveness of this new technology, the
>Attorney General will soon purchase several thousand of the new
>devices. In addition, respected experts from outside the
>government will be offered access to the confidential details of
>the algorithm to assess its capabilities and publicly report
>their findings.
means they aren't planning to make it public, as was done with DES. As it
says in both sci.crypt FAQs, there's no way we are going to achieve the
same level of comfort with Clipper that we finally have with DES if we
can't actually get our hands on the bits and watch them flow around. Even
the best experts aren't going to think of everything: look how long it
took Biham and Shamir to get a handle on just how good DES is... and for
all we know there's still more to learn.
--
Jim Gillogly
Trewesday, 25 Astron S.R. 1993, 17:10
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7696 | From: Sven Guckes <guckes@math.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: Looking for free/share wares
Originator: guckes@medusa
X-Mail-Reader: Elm 2.4 PL21
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: comp
X-News-Reader: NN 6.4.13 #13
Lines: 14
young@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (YOUNG Shio Hong) writes:
>I am looking for ftp sites (where there are freewares or sharewares) for Mac.
>It will help a lot if there are driver source codes in those ftp sites.
>Any information is appreciated.
F A Q !
Reference:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,
comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.answers,news.answers
Subject: Introductory Macintosh frequently asked questions (FAQ)
Sven :)
|
7697 | From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: Mossad unchecked - Girls faint in masse in Egypt
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: world
Lines: 31
In <1993Apr13.145325.15806@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
>In article <eldar.734672326@sfu.ca>, eldar@fraser.sfu.ca (Danny Eldar) writes:
>|>
>|> I just heard it on the radio: CKNW in Vancouver, BC. Girls are fainting in
>|> masse in Egypt. Nobody knows why, but the movement started in Nothern Egypt
>|> and spread throught all Egypt.
>|>
>|>
>|> I think that the MOSSAD, after the "obvious" involvement in WTC bombing,
>|> tries to reestablish its reputation. What better way than making Egyptian
>|> schhol-girls go bezerk.
>|>
>|> Maybe Hassan will share the light on this.
>I am happy to annouce TII's second positive identifiaction.
>Congragulations Danny.
>Hasan
As one who was born in Quebec and worked in Montreal, I feel I must
defend the reputation of McGill University. It is a fine, old,
creditable institution of higher learning.
Thus, I can only assume that some under graduate student left his/her
terminal on-line and the janitor has been getting access to it.
REB
|
7698 | From: ab4z@virginia.edu (Andi Beyer)
Subject: Translations
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 2
Which Version of the Bible do you consider to be the most
accurate translation?
|
7699 | From: JEK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: Chanting of the Passion
Lines: 14
Mike Rolfe writes:
> If you know the Latin, one really beautiful way to hear the
> Passion is its being chanted by three deacons: the Narrator
> chants in the middle baritone range, Jesus chants in the bass,
> and others directly quoted are handled by a high tenor.
This is done in English (same music as the traditional Latin) in
many Anglican parishes. I should expect that many RCC parishes would
do likewise. The ST MATTHEW PASSION and ST JOHN PASSION of J S Bach
are direct offshoots of this tradition
Yours,
James Kiefer
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