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8100 | From: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton)
Subject: MC SBI mixer
Distribution: world
Organization: Ozone Online Operations, Inc. - New Orleans, LA
Reply-To: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton)
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MJM>HI, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me on twwo related
MJM>subjects. I am currently learning about AM/FM receivers and recieving
MJM>circuits. I understand a lot of things ,but a few things I am confused
MJM>abuot. The first is the MIXER, to mix the RF and local oscillator
MJM>frequencies to make the IF. Does anyone have any cicruit diagrams (as
MJM>simple as possible) for this kind of mixer? I have come across a
MJM>MC-SBL mixer chip But I have not been able to find it in any catalogs
MJM>(ACTIVE,etc...)
MJM>Along the same note, are there any SIMPLE fm receiver circuits anyone
MJM>may have stashed away somewhere and they couold let me see?.
MJM>P.S. any REALLY GOOD BOOKS on AM/FM theory ALONG WITH DETAILED
MJM>ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS would help a lot.
MJM>I have seen a lot of theory books with no circuits and a lot of
MJM>circuit books with no theory, but one without the other does not help.
Digi-key has the NE-622 chip which has a local oscillator and mixer on
one chip.
For a great combination of theory with actual circuits, the best
reference for non-engineers is probably the Radio Amateur's Handbook
from the ARRL. Most library's have it in the reference section.
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8101 | From: ingemar@isy.liu.se (Ingemar Ragnemalm)
Subject: Re: Stereo sound problem (?) on mac games
Organization: Dept of EE, University of Linkoping
Lines: 45
Steve Bollinger <buzz@apple.com> writes:
>Enter game developers. The sound driver and current sound manager are
>inconveniently lame for making games.
The Sound Driver is pretty ok, since it's fast. Sound Manager used by the
book is *useless*. Disposing of sound channels as soon as sound has completed
is out of the question for games with smooth animation. (It's too slow.)
The Sound Driver is so much snappier than Sound Manager. Unfortunately,
System 7 supports it poorly, making programs crash occasionally.
>The more of the story is to developers: DON'T CHEAT!
>Really, I am absolutely, positively not allowed to do what I am about to
>do,
>but I'm going say it anyway.
>Stop cheating on sound!
>Really soon, you will be sorry, as even those without external speakers
>will be disappointed with your sound on future hardware. The grace period
>is about to end.
>The Sound Manager is understandable now, and works pretty well and will
>work
>even better soon, so use it.
Well, I want my code to work on old systems too. I don't know about sys 7.1,
but at least on 6.0.7, there are bugs in the Sound Manager that causes
channels to hang (with no error message). This happends when I keep a
channel open for long periods - necessary for performance - and play many
sounds, stopping sounds halfway. Callbacks seems not to be reliable.
Then only way I can safely tell if a sound has stopped playing is to
inspect private variables in the channel (QHead, I think it was), and the
only way I have found to tell if a channel is hung is to inspect an
*undocumented* flag and modify it.
Am I happy with this? Nope. I consider writing to SoundBase simply to get
rid of the bugs.
Any better suggestions? (Silent games is not among the acceptab|e solutions.)
--
Ingemar Ragnemalm
Dept. of Electrical Engineering ...!uunet!mcvax!enea!rainier!ingemar
..
University of Linkoping, Sweden ingemar@isy.liu.se
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8102 | From: jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr)
Subject: Re: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks only
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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NNTP-Posting-Host: achates.mit.edu
In article <19930419.155204.305@almaden.ibm.com>
ameline@vnet.IBM.COM (Ian Ameline) writes:
> I also believe that someone will reverse engineer the clipper chip,
>and knowlege of the algorithm will likely be fairly widespread.
The chip and algorithm are classified. If you reverse engineer it and
tell people, you are likely to go to jail.
Perhaps some foreign governments or corporations could help us out by
cracking the system outside the USA. The US government could probably
stop importation of clone hardware, but a software implementation
should be practical.
--
John Carr (jfc@athena.mit.edu)
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8103 | From: pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: Re: Dreams and Degrees (was Re: Crazy? or just Imaginitive?)
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Lines: 19
higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) writes:
...
>Like others involved in sci.space, Mr. Adams shows symptoms of being a
>fledgling member of the technoculture, and I think he's soaking it up
>fast. I was a young guy with dreams once, and they led me to get a
>technical education to follow them up. Too bad I wound up in an
>assembly-line job stamping out identical neutrinos day after day...
>(-:
How can you tell they're identical?
You got one of them "Star Drek: The Next Syndication" neutrino
scanners?
--
Phil Fraering |"Seems like every day we find out all sorts of stuff.
pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|Like how the ancient Mayans had televison." Repo Man
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8104 | From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: Changing oil by self.
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr15.193712.25996@news.cs.brandeis.edu> andyh@chaos.cs.brandei
s.edu (Andrew J. Huang) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.020356.28944@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sorlin@magnus.ac
s.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin) writes:
>>I take the electrodes of the Amp/Ohm/Volt meter whatever and connect one
>>to each earlobe. Then, symmetrically insert my fingers in each of the
>>spark plug boots. No cheating guys! both hands must be used!
>
>I have just a couple of questions about this technique.
>
>First, what firing order should I use? Do I start with my pointer
>finger or my pinky? Left hand or right?
Place your hands flat on a table, and arrange the firing order from left to
right.
>And secondly, I have a 12cyl and there are two cylinders unaccounted
>for. Any suggestions?
Well, you have friends don't you???
12 cylinders might be more excitement than one person can take....
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8105 | From: helfman@aero.org (Robert S. Helfman)
Subject: Re: Clinton's Wiretapping Initiative
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Lines: 22
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org
In article <9304161803.AA23713@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> blh@uiboise.idbsu.edu (Broward L. Horne) writes:
>
> If you look through this newsgroup, you should be
> able to find Clinton's proposed "Wiretapping" Initiative
^^^^^^^^^
> for our computer networks and telephone systems.
>
> This 'initiative" has been up before Congress for at least
> the past 6 months, in the guise of the "FBI Wiretapping"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> bill.
What kind of brainless clod posted the above garbage? Would they be
so kind as to explain how this is "Clinton's" initiative, when it
has been before Congress for "at least the past 6 months"?
Jeez, the next thing you know, they'll be blaming the weather on the
poor guy. They'll be blaming World War II on him. They'll be blaming
the Civil War on him. Maybe the Thirty Years War?
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8106 | From: pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney)
Subject: Re: THE POPE IS JEWISH!
Organization: Somewhere in the Twentieth Century
Lines: 47
west@next02cville.wam.umd.edu (Stilgar) writes:
>The pope is jewish.... I guess they're right, and I always thought that
>the thing on his head was just a fancy hat, not a Jewish headpiece (I
>don't remember the name). It's all so clear now (clear as mud.)
As to what that headpiece is....
(by chort@crl.nmsu.edu)
SOURCE: AP NEWSWIRE
The Vatican, Home Of Genetic Misfits?
Michael A. Gillow, noted geneticist, has revealed some unusual data
after working undercover in the Vatican for the past 18 years. "The
Popehat(tm) is actually an advanced bone spur.", reveals Gillow in his
groundshaking report. Gillow, who had secretly studied the innermost
workings of the Vatican since returning from Vietnam in a wheel chair,
first approached the scientific community with his theory in the late
1950's.
"The whole hat thing, that was just a cover up. The Vatican didn't
want the Catholic Community(tm) to realize their leader was hefting
nearly 8 kilograms of extraneous bone tissue on the top of his
skull.", notes Gillow in his report. "There are whole laboratories in
the Vatican that experiment with tissue transplants and bone marrow
experiments. What started as a genetic fluke in the mid 1400's is now
scientifically engineered and bred for. The whole bone transplant idea
started in the mid sixties inspired by doctor Timothy Leary
transplanting deer bone cells into small white rats." Gillow is quick
to point out the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II and the
disappearance of Dr. Leary from the public eye.
"When it becomes time to replace the pope", says Gillow, "The old pope
and the replacement pope are locked in a padded chamber. They butt
heads much like male yaks fighting for dominance of the herd. The
victor emerges and has earned the privilege of inseminating the choir
boys."
P.
--
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clive p a u l m o l o n e y Come, let us retract the foreskin of misconception
james trinity college dublin and apply the wire brush of enlightenment - GeoffM
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8107 | From: towwang@statler.engin.umich.edu (Tow Wang Hui)
Subject: NEEDED: ProDesigner IIs drivers
Keywords: Orchid ProDesigner IIs Windows 3.1
Article-I.D.: srvr1.1pst16INN4m3
Reply-To: towwang@engin.umich.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Michigan (CAEN)
Lines: 22
NNTP-Posting-Host: statler.engin.umich.edu
Originator: towwang@statler.engin.umich.edu
Could anybody please provide me a copy of the Windows 3.1 drivers and grabbers
from Orchid Technologies for use with their ProDesigner IIs ISA video card? Currently I do not have access to a modem to dial out to Orchid BBS.
If you can help me, please do any of the following, wichever is most convenient
to you:
1)
Copy the binary files to a directory readable by any user in any cell of the
Andrew File System
2)
Upload the binary files to an anonymous FTP site (where allowed).
3)
uuencode the files and send them to me by electronic mail.
Please notify me by electronic mail at
towwang@caen.engin.umich.edu
Thanks in advance.
Francisco
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8108 | From: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu (MICHAEL BITZ)
Subject: Adlib sound board for sale!
Lines: 17
Organization: Dakota State University
Lines: 17
I have an Adlib sound board for sale. It includes
the original disks, and I'll throw in a Windows 3.1
.WAV sound file driver. For those of you that are
using your PC Speaker for games, this will be a much
welcomed board for your PC!
$70.00 includes shipping to your home or office.
Email: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu
------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Bitz Internet: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu
Research and Development bitzm@dsuvax.dsu.edu
Dakota State University Bitnet: s93020@sdnet.bitnet
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8109 | From: zeno@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (S. Hsieh)
Subject: Video/Audio/Computer equipment for sale..
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Lines: 49
Distribution: na
Reply-To: zeno@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (S. Hsieh)
NNTP-Posting-Host: mickey.cc.utexas.edu
Originator: zeno@mickey.cc.utexas.edu
Time for some spring cleaning, so the following items are up
for sale:
Roland MT-32 Multi-Timbre Sound module.
LA synthesis, upto 32 simultaneous voices, 128 preset timbres,
20-char backlit LCD display, MIDI in/out/thru, reference card,
stereo output, etc
Great for games that support it (music on the MT32 is far
superior to any sound card), experimenting with MIDI, or
for adding additional sounds to your MIDI setup.
$235 + shipping
Canon RC-250 Xapshot still video camera system.
Includes: camera, carrying pouch, battery pack, battery charger,
ac adapter, video cables, two 2.5" floppies (each disk holds
50 pictures for 100 pics total), manuals, etc
Video output is standard NTSC composite and can be sent to any
NTSC device (e.g. to a television for direct viewing of your
pictures, to a VCR to record a slideshow, to a computer video
digitizer to save/manipulate the pictures on a computer system)
$295 + shipping
Ambico Video Enhancer/Audio Mixer
Three-line stereo audio mixer with microphone input and master
volume slider w/video enhancer to boost & sharpen video images
when dubbing from VCR->VCR, camcorder->VCR, etc
$38 + shipping
2400 baud PC internal modem
$25 + shipping
Quantum 105MB 3.5" internal ProDrive hard disk
This unit has recently turned unreliable and erratic in usage.
Could be a simple easily fixed problem or a major problem,
but at any rate I don't have the time to find out where the
problem lies. If you want to take a risk on it, you can have
it for $45 + shipping.
If interested in any of the above items, please Email me.
-S. Hsieh
zeno@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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8110 | From: stevela@csulb.edu (Steve La)
Subject: CDROM Audio cable...
Lines: 10
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: usa
I am looking for a CDROM audio cable to connect my Toshiba 3401B (L/R audio) to
the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card. Thanks in advance for any pointers...
-Steve
___ _____ ____ _ _ ____ _ __ Steve La
/ ___) (_ _) | ___) | || | | ___) | | / \ Network Manager
\__ \ | | | _)_ | || | | _)_ | |__ | || | stevela@csulb.edu
(____/ |_| |____) \__/ |____) |____) |_||_| (310) 985-4750
CALSTATE UNIVERSITY LONG BEACH, 1250 Bellflower Blvd. Long Beach, CA 90840
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8111 | From: ebth@rhi.hi.is (Eggert Thorlacius)
Subject: Monitors and Video cards for SE/30
Lines: 24
Nntp-Posting-Host: hengill.rhi.hi.is
Hello all.
I am thinking about buying an external monitor for my SE/30 and was
wondering if anyone out in netland has any advice for me.
I am mostly thinking about a 14" color monitor and an 8 bit card that
can switch between 640*480 and something higher (like 800*600). I read an
old report on a card from Lapis that could do this, but could not use the
external monitor as the main screen (with menubar) which to me is a major draw-
back. Has this perhaps been fixed? Or can any other cards do this (like the
Micron Xceed) ?
Also which monitor should I buy? At the moment I am leaning towards
the Sony 1304, 1304s or 1320 (what exactly is the difference between these?)
but are there any other good cheap monitors I should know about? Doesn't the
monitor have to be multisync to support cards that can switch resolutions?
Please send me e-mail and I'll summarize.
I would also greatly appreciate getting the e-mail addresses of any mail order
companys that sell monitors or cards.
Thanks in advance
Eggert Thorlacius
University of Iceland
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8112 | From: oj@world.std.com (Oliver Jones)
Subject: Re: Q: How to avoid XOpenDisplay hang?
Keywords: Xlib
Article-I.D.: world.C531A0.M3I
Organization: Shawsheen Software
Lines: 18
In article <C512xr.3oy@skates.gsfc.nasa.gov> andy@ice.stx.com writes:
>I'm writing 'xwall', a simple X version of 'wall', and I want it to
>put a message up on each of a default list of displays. The problem
>is that XOpenDisplay hangs if one of the displays is currently
>controlled by xdm (login screen).
xdm does XGrabServer when it's running in secure mode (so do some
screen-locks). There's really no simple way to tell this is the case.
You can take xdm out of secure mode; probably not too cool.
You can wrap your call to XOpenDisplay in some code which solicts
a future SIGALRM and longjmps past the XOpenDisplay from the signal
handler. An example of this can be seen in the xdm sources.
Note that longjmping out of XOpenDisplay probably causes a memory
leak; any program functioning this way probably needs to exit()
regularly.
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8113 | Subject: Books For Sale [Ann Arbor, MI]
From: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us (David Hwang)
Reply-To: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us
Distribution: na
Organization: D.J. Services
Lines: 68
BOOKS FOR SALE
================
Tally up any and all of the books you want and send me a message.
Shipping will be by US Mail Parcel Post/Book Rate. Payment in advance
or COD accepted.
All books are in good to excellent condition. Paperbacks, unless noted.
Quantity Discounts.
This list is updated continually. The latest list can be requested by
e-mail. This list supercedes all previous lists. Not responsible for typos.
!!!! = New To Listing **** = Claimed, but not paid for yet
===============================================================================
David Hwang, Ann Arbor, Michigan david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us
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List of: February 27, 1993
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Computers
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Using Wordperfect 5 (QUE, Stewart)............................... $10.00
Using Clipper (QUE, Tiley)....................................... $10.00
TRS-80 Assembly Language Programming [Barden].................... $ 1.00
57 Practical Programs & Games in Basic [Tracton]................. $ 1.00
First Book of Wordperfect 5.1 [Barnes]........................... $ 8.00
Corvettes
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1984-1986 Y Car Parts and Illustration Catalog [GM Manual]....... $ 7.50
Secrets of Corvette Detailing [Antonick]......................... $ 7.50
Eckler's Complete Guide to Corvette Fiberglass Repair............ $ 7.50
Corvette Owners' Workshop Manual [Haynes] [84-87]................ $ 7.50
Chevrolet Power Catalog [GM Manual] 6th. Edition................. $ 3.50
Corvette Driver/Owner Guide For 1953-1988 Models [Antonick]...... $ 7.50
Chevrolet Small Block V8 Speed Equipment Buyers Guide [Lamm]..... $10.00
Chilton's Easy Car Care, 2nd. Edition............................ $10.00
Medicine
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Ophthalmology Study Guide For Medical Students................... $ 4.00
Washington Manual or Medical Therapeutics, 26th. Ed.............. $10.00
Respiratory Physiology-The Essentials [West], 3rd. Ed............ $ 9.00
Langman's Medical Embryology, 5th. Ed. [Sadler] -hardcover-...... $18.00 SOLD
Essentials of Human Anatomy, 7th. Ed. [Woodburne] -hardcover-.... $18.00 SOLD
Cardiology Reference Book, 3rd Ed. [Kloner]...................... $ 4.00
Handbook of Antimicrobial Therapy 1992 [Mandell]................. $ 4.00
Guide to Antimicrobial Therapy 1991 [Sanford] ................... $ 1.00
--> or free with $10.00 of Med Books
Comprehensive Review of the Basic Sciences....................... $10.00 SOLD
How to Get Into Medical & Dental School, 3rd. Ed................. $ 2.00
Sexual Interactions [Allgeier], 2nd Ed. -hardcover-.............. $25.00
On Call: Principles and Protocols [Ruedy]........................ $ 9.00
Physicans' Desk Reference [PDR], 46th Ed., 1992 -hardcover-...... $10.00
Introduction to General Pathology [Spector], 2nd Ed. ............ $ 8.00
Medical School Admissions: Strategy For Success [Weschler] 1982.. $ 4.00
Getting Into Medical School [Brown] 1981 ........................ $ 1.00
Ten Point Plan For College Acceptance [Graham] 1981 ............. $ 2.00
Other
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College Accounting, 9th Ed., 1972 [Carson] -hardcover-........... $ 2.00
--
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1050 Wall Street, Suite 10C // Telephone: 313/663-5557
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105 // Internet: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us
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8114 | From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat)
Subject: Vancouver/Seattle Study Critiques
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Lines: 360
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Open letter by Dr. Paul H. Blackman, Research Coordinator for
NRA-ILA. NRA Official Journal 1/89.
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Dear sir:
By now, we are used to the New England Journal of Medicine's publication
of small-scale studies related to firearms from which conclusions are
drawn which are quantum leaps from the data, followed by announcements of
momentus "scientific" findings. These are regularly released to the press
without the caveats which riddle the conclusory paragraphs, and
often accompanied by an editorial calling attention to the findings.
Generally, while they at least present a few interesting data, however
meaningless, the studies misinterpret statistics, and ignore or belittle
serious studies by criminologists.
The latest effort -- "Handgun Regulations, Crime, Assaults, and Homicide:
A Tale of Two Cities," by J.H. Sloan, et al., with the accompanying
editorial, "Firearms Injuries: A Call for Science," by two employees
of the Centers for Disease Control (November 10), however, is an insult
to the intelligence of any serious scholar in any field and have so few
data and so many flaws that I feel compelled to write at some length
to call attention to various major and minor failings, in no particular
order.
1. The authors misleadingly cite Wright, et al. (Ref. 1) to
support the statement that "some have argued that restricting
access to handguns could substantially reduce our annual rate
of homicide." Wright, et al., in fact studied and rejected that
contention.
2. The authors pretended that Vancouver and Seattle are very
similar cities with similar economic circumstances, histories,
demographic characteristics, and the like. In fact, the cities
are very different with very different demographic characteristics
which appear to explain completely the higher homicide rate in
Seattle. Both cities are over three-forths non-Hispanic white
and *the non-Hispanic white homicide rates are reported to be
the same in Seattle and Vancouver*. It is the different back-
grounds, problems, circumstances, and behaviors of the various
ethnic minorities which explain the difference in homicide.
3. The authors pretend they are evaluating Canada's gun law,
compared to Washington State's. But they do not examine at all
the situation in Vancouver prior to the gun law taking effect
in 1978. As it happens, in the three years prior to that (1975-
1977), Vancouver averaged 23 homicides per year, one-eighth
involving handguns, (Ref. 2) and in the seven years of the NEJM
article there were 29 homicides per year, one-eigth involving
handguns. Surely even the medical profession recognizes that
one must look to see the prior situation was before concluding
that a change made a difference? Would a physician conclude that
a patient was benefiting from eating oat bran muffin each day
for seven years because his cholesterol level was 200 without
at least seeing if it was 180 before he started the regimen?
4. The authors pick two medium-sized cities to evaluate a national
gun law. Nothing can be learned from such a tiny and arbitrarily
selected sample. Seattle appears to have been selected because
it was convienient for the authors rather than for any scientific
reason. Would physicians call something a scientific study which
involved one experimental subject and one dissimilar "control"?
Had different arbitrarily selected cities been chosen, opposite
"scientific" conclusions would follow: Vancouver's homicide
rate *exceeds* that of such "wild west" cities in Texas as
El Paso, Corpus Christi, Austen, and, in Colorado, Colorado
Springs. (Ref. 3)
5. The authors fail to clearly demonstrate that firearms or
handguns "are far more commonly owned in Seattle than in
Vancouver." They use two surrogate approaches in pretending
to study the availability of firearms/handguns. The first is
an apples-and-oranges effort to compare the number of carry
permits in Seattle to the number of registered handguns in
Vancouver. But the number clearly understates the number of
handguns in Seattle, and counts primarily *protective* handgun
owners. The second, however, tells nothing about the number
of handguns in Vancouver, and counts *non-protective* handguns
for the most part. Where is it difficult to obtain handguns
legally for protection, registration figures are
meaningless. There are 66,000 registered handguns in New York
City (New York Daily News, Sept. 27, 1987). Comparing the two,
that method suggests about 930 handguns per 100,000 population
in New York City compared to 960 in Vancouver, meaning Vancouver
has a greater "prevalence of weapons" than New York City.
The second method of measuring gun density is "Cook's gun
prevalence index, a previously validated measure of intercity
differences." But the validation was by Cook of his own
theory. (Ref. 4) Normally, second opinions are sought from a
different doctor. More significantly, the Cook index is
based on the average of the percentage of firearms involvement
in suicide and homicide. So the authors are basically taking
a measure of misuse. Unsurprisingly, gun misuse in homicide
(42% in Seattle, 14% in Vancouver) is related to gun misuse in
homicide plus suicide, divided by two (41% in Seattle, 12% in
Vancouver). The authors are not measuring the relative avail-
ability of firearms, or of handguns, in Seattle and
Vancouver.
6. The authors misstate the laws of both Washington and
Canada. They neglect to mention the significant fact that
Washington has a waiting period and background check prior to
the purchase of a handgun, and that provisions exist in Canadian
law for owning and carrying handguns for personal
protection. The authors also make it appear that it is more
difficult to get a handgun legally in Canada than is actually
the case.
7. The authors ignore all other factors which might explain
the differences in crime rate, beyond some vague mention of the
penalities provided by law and the roughest of estimates of
clearence for one particular offense -- homicide involving a
firearm. There is no measure of: the differences in the number
of law enforcement officers; their aggressiveness in making
arrests for gun law violations in the two jurisdictions; arrest
rates for other offenses; conviction rates; actual sentences
imposed for gun-related crimes, violent crimes without guns,
or gun law violations; or incarceration rates. Whereas social
scientists would attempt to measure and hold for such differences,
the authors of the NEJM "tale of two cities" fail even to mention
most factors related to crime control.
8. The authors dismiss claims that handguns are an effective
means for protection unless the criminal is killed. Such is not
the case. Criminologists (Ref. 5-8) have found that almost
650,000 Americans annually use handguns for protection from
criminals, and that using a gun for protection reduces the
liklihood that a crime -- rape, robbery, assault -- will be
completed by the criminal and reduces the likelihood of injury
to the victim. It is interesting, nonetheless, that the authors
reported the same number (four) of civilian justifiable homicides
without firearms in each city but that less restrictive Seattle
accounted for 100% of the reported civilian justifiable homicides
involving firearms.
9. The Centers for Disease Control, which funded the "study,"
editorially praised the paper, (Ref. 9) saying it "applied
scientific methods to examine a focus of contention betweeb
advocates of stricter regulation of firearms, particularly
handguns." There is nothing in the paper which could possibly
be mistaken for "scientific methods" by a sociologists or
criminologists. The Vancouver-Seattle "study" is the equivolent
of testing an experimental drug to control hypertension by finding
two ordinary-looking middle-class white males, one aged 25
and the other 40, and without first taking their vital signs,
administering the experimental drug to the 25-year-old while
giving the 40-year-old a placebo, then taking their blood pressure
and, on finding the younger man had a lower blood pressure,
announcing in a "special article" a new medical breakthrough.
It would be nice to think that such a "study" would neither be
funded by the CDC or printed by the NEJM.
Since the longstanding anti-gun biases of the NEJM and the CDC
make them willing to present shoddy research as "scientific
breakthroughs" in "special articles" and editorials relating
to firearms, we are obligated to correct the record by notifying
the news media and those with congressional and executive oversight
over the activities of the Centers for Disease Control about
the distortions contained in "Handgun Regulations, Crime, Assaults,
and Homicides: A Tale of Two Cities" and "Firearm Injuries: A Call
for Science." Clearly, all scientific standards go by the wayside
whenever the CDC and the New England Journal of Medicine seize
an opportunity to attack firearms ownership in America.
REFERENCES
1. Wright JD, et al, *Weapons, crime and violence in America*: a literature
review and research agenda, Washington, D.C.: Department of Justice,
1981.
2. Scarff E. *Evaluation of the Canadian gun control legislation*: final
report. Ottawa: Ministry of the Solicitor General of Canada, 1983,
p. 87.
3. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, *Crime in
the United States*, 1987 (Uniform Crime Reports). Washington, D.C.:
Government Printing Office, 1988
4. Cook PJ. *The role of firearms in violent crime*. In: Wolfgang M.
Weiner NA, eds. *Criminal violence*, Beverly Hills, Calif.: Sage, 1982:
236-90, pp. 270-271.
5. Kleck G. *Crime control through the private use of armed force*.
Social Problems 1988: 35:1-21.
6. Ziegenhagen EA, Brosnan D. *Victim responses to robbery and crime
control policy*. Criminology. 1985: 23:675-695.
7. Lizotte AJ. *Determinants of completeing rape and assault*. Journal
of Quantitative Criminology. 1986: 2:203-217.
8. Sayles SL, Kleck G. *Rape and resistance*. Paper at the American Society
of Criminology convention, Chicago, 1988.
9. Mercy JA, Houk VN. *Firearm injuries: a call for science*.
NEJM: 319:1283-1285.
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GUNS AND SPUTTER
by James D. Wright
(from July 1989 issue of REASON, Free Minds & Free Markets)
Someone once wrote: "Statistics are like a bikini. What they real is
suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." The problem is demonstrated
by the most recent entry in a long line of scientific research purporting
to show a causal link between gun availability and homicide. Funded by
the federal government and published last year in the New England Journal
of Medicine, the study compared homicide rates in Seattle and Vancouver and
suggested that a handgun ban "may reduce the rate of homicide in a
community."
The nine medical doctors who published "Handgun Regulations, Crime,
Assaults, and Homicide" essentially reasoned in three steps: (1) Despite
many historical, social, and demographic similarities, (2) Vancouver
has a markedly lower homicide rate (3) because its stricter gun regulations
make guns less available. The second step in their reasoning seems
indisputable. The overall homicide rate in Seattle (for the period
1980-86) was 11.3 per 100,000 popuation, compared with 6.9 in Vancouver.
Homicide is definitely more common in Seattle. The question then becomes,
Why?
The authors present a believable although not entirely accurate case
to support the notion, as claimed in the third step of their reasoning,
that Vancouver's handgun regulations are much more stringent. But their
evidence on the difference in gun *availabilty* is indirect and
unpersuasive; indeed, they acknowledge that direct evidence on the point
does not exist. They offer two fragments of inferential data in support
of the claim that guns are more available in Seattle; but for all anybody
knows as a matter of empirical fact, the opposite could be true. We
are therefore being asked, at the conclusion of the study, to believe that
a difference in gun availability explains the difference in homicide rates
when a difference in gun availability has not itself been established.
Indeed, the situation is even more troublesome. The first of the two
indirect bits of evidence is a difference between the number of concealed-
weapons permits issued in Seattle and the number of restricted-weapons
permits issued in Vancouver. Differences between the two cities in the
permit regulations render these two numbers strictly noncomparable.
* The second bit of evidence is "Cook's gun prevalence index," which stands
* at 41 percent for Seattle but only 12 percent for Vancouver. Cook's index
* however, does not measure the relative prevalence of gun ownership in
* various cities. It measures gun misuse--it is an average of the percentage
* of homicides and suicides involving firearms.
* In the present case, the index shows only that in homicides and suicides,
* firearms are more likely to be used in Seatte than in Vancouver. To take
* Cook's index as a measure of general firearms availability, it must be
* assumed that the proportional involvement of guns in homicides and suicides
* is directly related to their relative availability in the general
* population. But this is exactly what the authors are seeking to prove. To
* assume what one is seeking to prove, then to "prove" it on the basis of
* that assumption does ot constitute scientific evidence for anything.
Even if we were to grant, on the basis of no compelling evidence, that
guns are less common in Vancouver, we might still question what causes what.
The authors attribute Seattle's higher crime rate to a higher rate of gun
ownership. But it might well be argued that low crime or homicide rates
reduce the motivation for average citizens to obtain guns--in other words,
that crime rates explain the variation in gun ownership, not vice versa.
In fact, it was once commonly argued that Great Britain's low rate of
violent crime was a function of that nation's strict gun laws and the
consequent low rate of gun ownership--until British researcher Colin
Greenwood found that Great Britain had enjoyed low rates of violent crime
for many decades before strict firearms controls were enacted. To invoke
an ancient methodological saw, correlation is not cause.
Nor do the problems with this study end with its lack of direct data
on gun ownership. The authors say Seattle and Vancouver are "similar in
many ways," implying that they differ mainly in gun availability, gun-law
stringency, and crime rates. This is an evident attempt to establish
the ceteris paribus condition of a sound scientific analysis--that "all
else is equal" among things being compared.
* Clearly the two cities are similar in some ways, but a closer look
* reveals differences in ways that are relevant to their respective crime
* or homicide rates. The cities are closely matched in what percentage
* of their population is white (79 percent and 76 percent). But Seattle
* is about 10 percent black, while Vancouver is less than 0.5 percent.
* Vancouver's minority population is overwhelmingly Asian. So although the
* authors show that th two cities are approximately comparable on a half-
* dozen readily available demographic indicators, they have not shown
* that all potentially relevant sources of variation have been ruled out.
* In fact, the differences in racial compositions of the two cities is
* particularly relevant in light of the study's breakdown of homicide rates
* according to the race of the victim. For the white majority, the homicide
* rates are nearly identical--6.2 per 100,000 in Seattle, 6.4 in Vancouver.
* The differing overall homicide rates in the two cities are therefore due
* entirely to vastly different rates among racial minorities. For blacks,
* the observed difference in homicide rate is 36.6 to 9.5 and for Hispanics
* 26.9 to 7.9. (Methodoligical complexities render the Asian comparison
* problematic, but it too is higher in Seattle than in Vancouver.) Racial
* minorities are much more likely to be the victims of homicide in Seattle
* than in Vancouver; the white majority is equally likely to be slain
* in either city.
Since the nearly 2:1 initial difference in homicide reates between the
cities is due exclusively to 3:1 or 4:1 differences between minority
groups, it is fair to ask why postulated difference in "gun availability"
(or gun-law strigency) would matter so dramatically to minorities but not
matter at all to whites. Can differential gun availability explain why
blacks and Hispanics--but not whites--are so much more likely to be killed
in Seattle than in Vancouver? (Studies in the United States, incidentally,
do not show large or consistent racial differences in gun ownership.)
Or are other explanations more plausible? Could the disparity between
Canadian and American rates of poverty among racial minorities have
anything to do with it? What are the relative rates of drug or alcohol
abuse? Of homelessness among each cty's minority population? (The city
of Seattle runs the largest shelter for homeless men west of the
Mississippi.) Unemployment among young, central-city, nonwhite men in the
United States usually exceeds 40 percent. What is the comparable Canadian
percentage?
The crucial point is that Canada and the United States differ in many
ways, as do cities and population subgroups with the two countries. Absent
more detailed analysis, nearly any of these "many ways" might explain part
or all of the difference in homicide rates. In gross comparisons such
as those between Seattle and Vancouver, all else is *not* equal.
* The authors of this study acknowledge that racial patterns in homicide
* result in a "complex picture." They do not acknowledge that the ensuing
* complexities seriously undercut the main thrust of their argument. They
* also acknowledge that "socio-economic status is probably an important
* confounding factor in our comparison," remarking further that "blacks
* in Vancouver had a slightly higher mean income in 1981 than the rest of
* Vancouver's population." Given the evidence presented in the article,
* it is possible that all of the difference in homicide rates between Seattle
* and Vancouver results from greater proverty among Seattle's racial
* minorities. But the authors pay no further attention to this possibility,
* since "detailed information about household incomes according to race
* is not available for Vancouver."
The largely insurmountable methodological difficulties confronted in
gross comparative studies of this sort can be illustrated with as simple
example. If one were to take all U.S. couties and compare them in terms
of (1) pervalence of gun ownership and (2) crime or homicide rates, one
would find an astonishing pattern: Counties with more guns have less crime.
Would one conclude from this evidence alone that guns actually reduce
crime? Or would one insist that other variables also be taken into
account? In this example, the "hidden variable" is city size: Guns are
more common in small towns and rural areas, whereas crime is a big-city
problem. If researchers failed to anticipate this variable, or lacked the
appropriate data to examine its possible consequences, they coud be very
seriously misled. In the study at hand, the authors matched two cities
for size but not for minority poverty rates or other hidden variables,
and their results are impossible to interpret.
In the editorial "Firearm Injuries: A Call for Science" accompanying
the study, two officials from the Centers for Disease Control lauded the
authors for applying "scientific methods" to a problem of grave public
heath significance. But in attempting to draw causal conclusions from
nonexperimental research, the essence of scientific method is to anticipate
plausible alternative explanations for the results and try to rule them
out. Absent such effort, the results may well seem scientific but are
little more than polemics masquerading as serious research. That this
study is but one of a number of recent efforts--all employing practical
identical research designs and published in leading scientific journals--
is cause for further concern.
[James D. Wright is professor of sociology at Tulane University. He has
researched extensively on the relationship of firearms and crime.]
Reason published monthly except combined August-September issue by the Reason
Foundation, a nonprofit, tax-exempt organization. Subscription rate: $24.00
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8115 | From: pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Christians above the Law, was Clarification of personal position
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
<sandvik-170493104641@sandvik-kent.apple.com>
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In article <sandvik-170493104641@sandvik-kent.apple.com>
sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>My online Bible is on a CD, but I don't own a CD-ROM system for the
>time being, so I can't search for the famous cite where Jesus explicitly
>states that he didn't want to break existing (Jewish) laws. In other
>words technically speaking Christians should use Saturday and not Sunday
>as their holy day, if they want to conform to the teachings of Jesus.
Who said Christians want to conform to the teachings of Jesus?
"You are the light of the world. A city can't be hidden lying on a
mountaintop. Nor do people light a candle and cover it with a big
basket; they put it up on a tall candlestick where it can shine for
everyone in the house. That's how your light must shine in front of the
world, so that people see your good deeds and give credit to your Father
in the skies. Don't think I came to dissolve The Law [Torah aka First
Five Books] or The Prophets: [7 major plus 12 minor] I didn't come to
dissolve them, I came to fulfill them. I assure you, till the sky and
the earth go away, not one letter or punctuation mark of The Law will
ever go away until everthing has come to pass. So anyone who dissolves
even one of the smallest commandments and teaches others the same way,
will be known as the lowest in the kingdom of the skies; whereas anyone
who keeps the commands and teaches them too, will be known as someone
great in the kingdom of the skies." Matt5:14-19, Gaus, ISBN:0-933999-99-2
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8116 | From: uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu!gila005 (Stephen Holland)
Subject: Re: diet for Crohn's (IBD)
Organization: Gastroenterology - Univ. of Alabama
Distribution: usa
Lines: 81
Summary of thread:
A person has Crohns, raw vegetables cause problems (unspecified)
Steve Holland replies: patient may have mild obstruction. Avoid things
that would plug her up. Crohn's has no dietary restriction in general.
In article <1993Apr22.210631.13300@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>,
spenser@fudd.jsc.nasa.gov (S. Spenser Aden) wrote:
>
> Interesting statements, simply because I have been told otherwise. I'm
> certainly not questioning Steve's claims, as for one I am not a doctor, and I
> agree that foods don't bring on the recurrence of Crohn's. But inflammation
> can be either mildly or DRASTICALLY enhanced due to food.
The feeling obout this has changed in the GI community. The current
feeling
is that inflammation is not induced by food. There is even evidence that
patients deprived of food have mucosal atrophy due to lack of stimulation
of
intestinal growth factors. There is now interest in providing small
amounts
of nasogastric feeding to patients on IV nutrition. But I digress.
Symptoms can be drastically enhanced by food, but not inflammation.
> Having had one major obstruction resulting in resection (is that a good enough
> caveat :-), I was told that a *LOW RESIDUE* diet is called for. Basically,
> the idea is that if there is inflammation of the gut (which may not be
> realized by the patient), any residue in the system can be caught in the folds
> of inflammation and constantly irritate, thus exacerbating the problem.
> Therefore, anything that doesn't digest completely by the point of common
> inflammation should be avoided. With what I've been told is typical Crohn's,
> of the terminal ileum, my diet should be low residue, consisting of:
>
> Completely out - never again - items:
> o corn (kernel husk doesn't digest ... most of us know this :-)
> o popcorn (same)
> o dried (dehydrated) fruit and fruit skins
> o nuts (Very tough when it comes to giving up some fudge :-)
The low residue diet is appropriate for you if you still have obstructions.
Again, it is not felt that food causes inflammation. These foods are
avoided because they may get stuck. I'd go ahead and have the
fudge, though ;-) .
> Discouraged greatly:
> o raw vegetables (too fibrous)
> o wheat and raw grain breads
> o exotic lettuce (iceberg is ok since it's apparently mostly water)
> o greens (turnip, mustard, kale, etc...)
> o little seeds, like sesame (try getting an Arby's without it!)
> o long grain and wild rice (husky)
> o beans (you'll generate enough gas alone without them!)
> o BASICALLY anything that requires heavy digestive processing
>
> I was told that the more processed the food the better! (rather ironic in this
> day and age). The whole point is PREVENTATIVE ... you want to give your
> system as little chance to inflame as possible. I was told that among the
> NUMEROUS things that were heavily discouraged (I only listed a few), to try
> the ones I wanted and see how I felt. If it's bad, don't do it again!
> Remember though that this was while I was in remission. For Veggies: cook the
> daylights out of them. I prefer steaming ... I think it's cooks more
> thoroughly - you're mileage may vary.
>
> As with anything else, CHECK WITH YOUR DOCTOR. Don't just take my word. But
> this is the info I've been given, and it may be a starting point for
> discussion. Good luck!
>
Spencer makes an especially good point in having an observant and
informed patient. Would that many patients be able to tell what
causes them problems. The digestive processing idea is changing, but
if a food causes problems, avoid them. Be sure that the foods are
tested a second time to be sure the food is a real cause. Crohn's
commonly causes intermittent symptoms and some patients end up with
severly restricted diets that take months to renormalize.
There was a good article in the CCFA newsletter recently that discussed
the issue of dietary restriction of fiber. It would be worth reading
to anyone with an interest in Crohn's.
And, as I always say when dealing with Crohn's, as does Spencer, Good Luck!
Steve Holland
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8117 | From: dla@se05.wg2.waii.com (Doug Acker)
Subject: Re: Problem with libXmu on SUNOS5.1 and gcc
Reply-To: acker@se01.wg2.waii.com
Organization: Western Geophysical Exploration Products
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NNTP-Posting-Host: se05.wg2.waii.com
In article <1qmt3i$66io@ep130.wg2.waii.com>, dla@se05.wg2.waii.com (Doug Acker) writes:
|> I am using X11R5patch23 with the R5-SUNOS5 patch posted on export.
|> I did optionally apply the patch.olit.
|>
|> libXmu compiles fine .. when I try to use it with clients (i.e. bmtoa and
|> twm), I get errors ... I can not figure out what is wrong:
|>
|> gcc -fpcc-struct-return -o twm gram.o lex.o deftwmrc.o add_window.o gc.o list.o twm.o parse.o menus.o events.o resize.o util.o version.o iconmgr.o cursor.o icons.o -O2 -R/usr/wgep/X11R5.sos5/lib${LD_RUN_PATH+\:$LD_RUN_PATH} -L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu -L.|> ./.././lib/Xt -L../.././extensions/lib -L../.././lib/X -L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././lib/X -lX11 -L/usr/wgep/X11R5.sos5/lib -lsocket -lnsl
|> ld: warning: file ../.././extensions/lib/libXext.so: attempted multiple inclusion of file libXext.so
|> Undefined first referenced
|> symbol in file
|> XtWindowOfObject ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so
|> ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to twm
|> *** Error code 1
The problem was that SunPost411Ld was not defined.
Douglas L.Acker Western Geophysical Exploration Products
____ ____ ____ a division of Western Atlas International Inc.
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8118 | From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr)
Subject: Re: Prophetic Warning to New York City
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 65
In article <Apr.9.01.10.38.1993.16892@athos.rutgers.edu> evensont@spot.Colorado.EDU (EVENSON THOMAS RANDALL) writes:
>Which brings me around to asking an open question. Is the Bible a closed
>book of Scripture? Is it okay for us to go around saying "God told
>me this" and "Jesus told me that"? Wouldn't that imply that God is STILL
>pouring out new revelation to us? I know that some people will feel
>that is okay, and some will not. The concept of a closed canon would
>certainly cast a shadow on contemporary prophets. On the other hand,
>an open canon seems to be indicated sometimes.
There are a lot of people running around saying "God told me this" and
"God told me that" these days. Some people really have heard God, and others
heard their glands. Mario Murrillo mentioned this in a sermon once. He
said someone told him, "The Lord gave me a song." He said that it was
the worst song he had ever heard.
"I know why he gave you that song," Murillo said, "He didn't want it anymore."
But God does still speak to His people today, and the idea is contrary to the
idea of a closed cannon. Ireneaus wrote about all the gifts of the Spirit
in the church of His day (2nd and 3rd century) and he was one of the first
to put forth a New Testament cannon, which was almost identical to the one
we have today. He believed in a closed cannon.
Many prophets prophesied prophecies which were not recorded in the Scriptures.
For example, one prophet in Kings, whose name starts with an "M" who
prophecied that the king would lose a battle. That is the only prophecy
he gave recorded in Scripture, and we no that he had given other prophecies
because the king complained before he heard the prophecy, "He never prophesies
anything good about me." Yet only one little paragraph of all of his
lifetime of prophecies are recorded in Scripture. There are numerous examples.
Barnabas was a prophet, Acts says, before he was even sent out as an
apostle. Yet his writings are not recorded in Scripture. Only two of
Agabus prophecies are mentioned in Scripture. He was already a prophet
before he gave them.
So prophecy may be genuine and from God, but that does not make it
Scripture.
>Also interesting to note is that some so called prophecies are nothing new
>but rather an inspired translation of scripture. Is it right to call
>that prophecy? Misleading? Wouldn't that be more having to do with
>knowledge?
I don't know about translations of Scripture, but I am familiar with
prophecies that give applications for Scripture. There are also
similar examples in the Bible. Several times Peter interprets prophecies
in a seemingly prophetic way, for example, "And his bishoprick let another
take" concerning Judas office.
A clearer example can be found in Matthew 24. Jesus is prophesying about
what will happen before His return and He quotes a passage out of Joel
about the sun being darkened and the moon turning to blood. So Scriptural
prophecy can be used in later prophecy.
Sometimes this sort of thing can cross over into being a word of knowledge,
but gifts of the Spirit seem to overlap. Words of knowledge and wisdom
can overlap. The word of knowledge and prophecy can overlap.
Interpretation of tounges is very similar to prophecy. Healings are often
considered miracles. So sometimes the distinction between gifts is a
bit hazy. Imho, it doesn't usually matter that much if we are able to
label a phenomenon, as long as we recognize them as the work of the
Spirit, and use them according to His leading.
Link Hudson.
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8119 | From: tds32845@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tony Shan ~{5%6+9b~})
Subject: Re: Help with hooking Irwin tape drive to PC
Keywords: Irwin tape backup, external unit, help
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 11
I would like to thank all those people who responded to my post. I
would, however, like to clear some things up. My tape drive is *external*.
Also, the connector on the back of it is of the male DB-37 pin variety.
As a result, I cannot easily find a cost-effective solution to use the drive.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated. I would prefer email.
Thanks!
..Tony Shan
..tonys@uiuc.edu
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8120 | From: dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal)
Subject: Re: Giants' GM Quinn *is* a genius!
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson
Lines: 22
In article <C50nH4.4Et@odin.corp.sgi.com> luigi@sgi.com (Randy Palermo) writes:
>Will Clark
>Matt Williams
>Robbie Thompson
>Rod Beck........All came up through the Giants system.
Geez. Everyone comes up with Clark, Williams, Thompson. These guys
were all up in 1987. That's ancient history. So in the last 6 years,
noone, right? Beck doesn't count. I said 2 solid years.
>BTW, Manwaring lead the ML last season in throwing out baserunners. He is
>an excellent defensive catcher. I agree that his offensive skills are
>limited but he does seem to be improving on them.
Let's see what he does w/o the help of a pitchout every other pitch.
As I remember, even Bob Brenly had a good throwout percentage under
Roger Craig, who loved to sacrifice the count for runners being thrown
out. Of course, he suffered from 3 ball 1 strike homers a lot too.
I am not a big fan of Manwaring.
--dave
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8121 | From: kelleyb@austin.ibm.com (Kelley Boylan)
Subject: Re: Screen Death: Mac Plus/512
Originator: kelleyb@kelleyb.austin.ibm.com
Reply-To: kelleyb@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin, PowerPC
Lines: 29
> I have a (very old) Mac 512k and a Mac Plus, both of which
> have the same problem.
> Their screens blank out, sometimes after a minor physical jolt
> (such as inserting a floppy in the internal drive), sometimes
> all by themselves (computer left to itself just goes blank).
>
> I have replaced the wires connecting the logic boards and the
> video board, because it seemed at first that jiggling the wires
> made the screen come back on. This worked for a while, but the
> blanking out has returned.
>
> Can I do anything? Do I need a new power supply? A new CRT?
> A new computer?
I had the same problem with my 512 a long time ago. Resoldering
the joints on the motherboard (all of them) fixed it. Turns out
that continuous heating and cooling caused annular (ring-shaped)
cracks to develop in the solder, effectively cutting the video
circuitry off. If you're not a solder-jockey you might want to
have someone else do it -- I took mine to an electrical engineer
buddy -- but it was a 20-minute job, tops.
-Kelley-
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Thomas Kelley Boylan, PowerPC, IBM Austin, kelleyb@austin.ibm.com
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I buy and pay for my own opinions
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8122 | From: fbaker12@jade.tufts.edu (Frederick A. Baker)
Subject: Re: 486DX/33 CPU chip for sale, $250
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Distribution: na
Lines: 8
This entire dispute over a chip has deluged this newsgroup with a
lot of posts that have nothing to SELL. It all harkens back to a
certain user's post of a month or so ago: STOP POSTING COMPUTER
EQUIPMENT HERE!!! Save it for the computer.forsale newsgroups!
If you don't GET the computer.forsale newsgroups, then ask your
sysadmin. to try to subscribe to it at your location. Otherwise,
knock it off!
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8123 | From: bshelley@ucs.indiana.edu ()
Subject: Xanax...please provide info
Nntp-Posting-Host: jh224-718622.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Lines: 9
I am currently doing a group research project on the drug Xanax. I would
be exponentially gracious to receive any and all information you could
provide
me regarding its usage, history, mechanism of reaction, side effects, and
other pertinent information. I don't care how long or how short your
response is.
Thanks in advance!
Brent E. Shelley
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8124 | From: tarq@ihlpm.att.com
Subject: Forsale - Steyr 9mm Parabellum
Organization: AT&T
Lines: 25
FOR SALE - Steyr GB 9mm Parabellum
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This is an excellent handgun for the first time buyer or
an experienced handgunner. It is in excellent condition.
I never had a misfire with it.
Make: Steyr Model GB 9mm Parabellum
Magazine: 18 rounds
Barrel: Hard-chrome-plated inside and outside for
long term durability and wear resistance.
Fixed mount.
Price: $375, obo.
Comes with 2 magazines, original owner's manual.
Contact: T. Ahmad, ihlpm!tarq, (708)979-0838 (weekdays)
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8125 | From: jck@catt.citri.edu.au (Justin Kibell)
Subject: Re: Honors Degrees: Do they mean anything?
Reply-To: jck@catt.citri.edu.au
Organization: CATT Centre at CITRI, Melbourne, Australia
Lines: 9
What has this got to do with comp.windows.x?
_,_
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-oo0-\_/-0oo--------------------------------------------------------------
Justin Kibell - Systems Programmer - XMelba Project Team - C.A.T.T.
Collaborative Information Technology Research Institute - Melbourne - Vic.
Internet: jck@jaguar.catt.citri.edu.au Phone: +61 03 282 2456 Australia
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8126 | From: gay@venice.sedd.trw.com (Lance Gay)
Subject: Out of environment space running BAT files from Windows
Article-I.D.: venice.1993Apr23.005117.21582
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Lines: 17
I have a .BAT file that I run under a Windows Icon. I have set up a PIF
file to run the BAT file in exclusive mode and to use the entire screen.
The first line of the BAT file sets an environment variable.
My problem is that on some of our machines (running MS-DOS 5.0 and Windows
3.1 in enhanced mode), the SET command in the BAT file fails with the
OUT OF ENVIRONMENT SPACE error. I have raised the amount of environment
space to 2048 bytes using the SHELL command in CONFIG.SYS so I know that
I am nowhere near to running out. If I just click on the MS-DOS icon,
I can create a bunch of environment varibles from the DOS shell. The problem
is that on some machines, setting the value of an environment variable in
a BAT file fails. Has anyone seen such behavior before? I see no place in the
PIF fail to configure environment space.
Lance J. Gay Internet: gay@venice.sedd.trw.com
TRW Systems Engineering & Development Div. Phone: 310-764-3988
Carson, CA 90746
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8127 | From: beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck)
Subject: Re: Drawing colour pixmaps - not rectangular
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany.
Lines: 27
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.DE
NNTP-Posting-Host: irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de
In article <1993Mar31.022947.149@etrog.se.citri.edu.au>, jck@catt.citri.edu.au (Justin Kibell) writes:
|> I am writing a program which needs to draw colour XPM pixmap files onto a background without having the borders show up. I cannot do xor as the colours all stuff up. I cannot use XCopyPlane() as that is for single planes only. I want to be able to specify a colour in the pixmap to be used as the opaque colour. Is this possible.
|>
|> Games such as xjewel have the same problem. How does the mouse pointer do it?
|>
|> Any help would be helpful? :-)
|>
You wanna do masking. Build a bitmap (pixmap of depth one) where all pixels
you name "opaque" are 1 (that get copied) and the others are 0. Use this
bitmap as the clip_mask in the gc used for XCopyArea(), and remember to
adjust the clip_origin coordinates to the XCopyArea() blit origin.
The Mouse pointer (besides from that it is driven using RAMDAC analog
mapping on most hardwares) uses a mask, too.
But be warned: blitting through a mask and especially moving around this mask
is annoying slow on most xservers... it flickers even at 40 MIPS...
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8128 | From: jim.wray@yob.sccsi.com (Jim Wray)
Subject: CNN for sale
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Lines: 18
Reply-To: jim.wray@yob.sccsi.com (Jim Wray)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Bill Vojak:
BV>I read in the paper yestarday that Ted Turner wants to "trim" down
BV>his media holdings and is putting CNN up for sale. The #1 potential
BV>bidder? TIME/Warner of course. Sigh . . . . . Just what we need. :-(
Maybe now's the time for us, the NRA, GOA, CCRTKBA, SAF, et al to band
together and buy CNN as *our* voice. Wouldn't that be sumpin....broadcast
the truth for a change and be able to air a favorable pro-gun item or two....
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8129 | From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: To be exact, 2.5 million Muslims were exterminated by the Armenians.
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Lines: 34
ac = In <9304202017@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
pl = linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
pl: 1. So, did the Turks kill the Armenians?
ac: So, did the Jews kill the Germans?
ac: You even make Armenians laugh.
ac: "An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the
ac: systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of
ac: the independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at
ac: least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The
ac: memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and
ac: eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in
ac: 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound."
Typical Mutlu. PvdL asks if X happened, the response is that Y
happened. Even if we grant that the Armenians *did* do what Cosar
accuses them of doing, this has no bearing on whether the Turks did
what they are accused of.
While I can understand how an AI could be this stupid, I
can't understand how a human could be such a moron as to either let
such an AI run amok or to compose such pointless messages himself.
I do not expect any followup to this article from Argic to do anything
to alleviate my puzzlement. But maybe I'll see a new line from his
list of insults.
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8130 | From: ekr@squick.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: EIT
Lines: 88
NNTP-Posting-Host: squick.eitech.com
In article <1r3le9$mlj@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>In article <1r22qp$4sk@squick.eitech.com> ekr@squick.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>#In article <1r0m89$r0o@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>#>In article <1qvu33$jk3@kyle.eitech.com> ekr@kyle.eitech.com (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>#>#>If almost all people agree that the sun exists (in the usual, uncritical sense),
>#>#>and almost all people agree that a deal is bad, it's a reasonable
>#>#>conclusion that the sun really does exist, and that the deal really is bad.
>#>#I disagree completely. Until rather recently, most people did not
>#>#believe in evolution or the possibility of the atom bomb. Popular
>#>#opinion is notoriously wrong about matters of fact.
>#>True, but nevertheless the basis of all "matters of fact" is overwhelming
>#>popular opinion, and some overwhelming popular opinion *is* fact ("the
>#>sun shines"). If it were not so, physics would be a personal matter,
>#>assumed to be different for each of us. There would be YourGravity and
>#>MyGravity and no theoretical framework to encompass them and predict
>#>both.
>#This is simply complete nonsense. The basis for 'matters of fact' is,
>#if any class of opinion, the majority of INFORMED popular opinion
>#for some value of informed. I would really hate to base my knowledge
>#of, for instance, QM on what the overwhelming popular opinion is.
>The *basis*, Eric, is people peering at the world and saying what
>they see. I'm talking about uninterpreted facts - observations. _People_
>do those. Agreement on some observations is a prerequisite for a theory
>that is more than personal.
Yes, that's true, but you have to be clear exactly what is
an uninterpreted observation. It's pretty low level stuff.
'The sun shines' is already a LOT higher level than that. We
can agree that 'I perceive brightness' perhaps.
>#>Now I take an experience of good/evil to be every bit as raw a fact as an
>#>experience of pain, or vision.
>#That might seem like a good first pass guess, but it turns out to
>#be a pretty cruddy way to look at things, because we all seem to
>#have rather different opinions (experiences) about what is good
>#and evil, while we seem to be able to agree on what the meter says.
>You're not comparing apples with apples. If we all look at the same meter,
>we'll agree. If we're all in the same situation, that's when we'll
>agree on fundamental values, if at all. People who say that nobody agrees on
>values to the same extent that they agree on trivial observations seem
>to be unaware of the extent of agreement on either.
Huh? What do you mean 'all in the same situation?' Let's take me
and Dennis Kriz as examples. We're in pretty different situations,
but I think we can agree as to whether it's day or night. I don't
think we can agree as to whether or not abortion is morally
acceptable. Yet we are certainly in the same difference of
situations with respect to each other. Looks like weasel-words
to me, Frank.
>#I don't see that it's any evidence at all.
>#As I point out above, I'm really not interested very much in
>#what the popular opinion is. I'm prepared to trust--to some extent--
>#the popular opinion about direct matters of physical observation
>#because by and large they accord with my own. However, if everyone
>#else said the dial read 1.5 and it looked like a 3 to me, I would
>#hope that I would believe myself. I.e. believing other people about
>#these matters seems to have a reasonable probability of predicting
>#what I would believe if I observed myself, but the possibility exists
>#that it is not. Since I know from observation that others disagree
>#with me about what is good, I believe I can discount popular opinion
>#about 'good' from the beginning as a predictor of my opinion.
>#I would say that the fact that it seems almost impossible to get
>#people to agree on what is good in a really large number of situations
>#is probably the best evidence that objective morality is bogus, actually.
>Firstly, if everyone else said the dial was 1.5 and I saw 3, I'd check
>my lens prescription.
That's up to you, I guess.
> Secondly, your observation that people
>disagree shows nothing - people may be looking at different things,
>by virtue of being in different situations. If I look at an elephant, I'll
>see an elephant. That doesn't imply that you will see an elephant if you
>look at an iguana.
This 'different situations' stuff is pretty confusing, Frank. How
do we decide if we are in the same situation? You mind explaining?
> Thirdly, I question your assumption that when
>people disagree about how to achieve fundamental or secondary goals, that
>they therefore do not have the same fundamental goals (that seems to be the
>disagreement you refer to).
Huh? I don't think so. I think that people disagree about
fundamental goals.
-Ekr
--
Eric Rescorla ekr@eitech.com
Would you buy used code from this man?
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8131 | From: ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei)
Subject: Re: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks only
Nntp-Posting-Host: bistromath.mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Lines: 41
In article <strnlghtC5t4o3.K5p@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>Actually the govrnment is telling you that if you want to use their
>"product" the manufacturer (actually better yet, some "trusted" pair
>of escrow agencies) has to have the key.
>
>Most of us already are in this situation--our car makers have keys to our
>cars (or can get them quickly from the VIN number), and I have no doubt
>that if presented with a court order, they'd surrender copies to the
>government.
>Chances are that many locksmiths have the code numbers for house locks
>they've installed, and in an emergency can cut keys; thus they'd also
>provide such keys to the government pursuant to a court order.
Of course, nothing prevents you from buying a new lock with cash
and installing it yourself. Even modifying the core to match some
arbitrary key is not difficult to do at home. I once knew someone who
had fixed his locks in this way - his house, office and cars all took
the same key (which he took GOOD care of :-)
>The state has no difficulty gaining access to your safe deposit box if they
>have a court order.
>Bad analogy.
Very bad (yours, that is). Have you ever had a safety deposit box?
They work on a two-key system. The bank clerk has one, and you have
the other (they are different keys). The bank does NOT keep a copy of
your key. If you lose it, they have to drill out the lock, and replace
the door. This is a time consuming and expensive process (which they
will be happy to charge to your account :-).
This process is exactly analogous to having a private key which
is NOT in a escrow system, and the state having to crack your cipher
to get the data.
Please do not use false analogies.
Peter Trei
ptrei@mitre.org
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8132 | howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!mcsun!Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!tubsibr!dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de!I3150101
Subject: Re: Gospel Dating
From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Lines: 35
In article <66015@mimsy.umd.edu>
mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate) writes:
(Deletion)
>I cannot see any evidence for the V. B. which the cynics in this group would
>ever accept. As for the second, it is the foundation of the religion.
>Anyone who claims to have seen the risen Jesus (back in the 40 day period)
>is a believer, and therefore is discounted by those in this group; since
>these are all ancients anyway, one again to choose to dismiss the whole
>thing. The third is as much a metaphysical relationship as anything else--
>even those who agree to it have argued at length over what it *means*, so
>again I don't see how evidence is possible.
>
No cookies, Charlie. The claims that Jesus have been seen are discredited
as extraordinary claims that don't match their evidence. In this case, it
is for one that the gospels cannot even agree if it was Jesus who has been
seen. Further, there are zillions of other spook stories, and one would
hardly consider others even in a religious context to be some evidence of
a resurrection.
There have been more elaborate arguments made, but it looks as if they have
not passed your post filtering.
>I thus interpret the "extraordinary claims" claim as a statement that the
>speaker will not accept *any* evidence on the matter.
It is no evidence in the strict meaning. If there was actual evidence it would
probably be part of it, but the says nothing about the claims.
Charlie, I have seen Invisible Pink Unicorns!
By your standards we have evidence for IPUs now.
Benedikt
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8133 | From: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez)
Subject: using 1.4 Mb disks with Mac II?
Article-I.D.: gandalf.Apr.6.13.20.40.1993.1397
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Lines: 11
Do you need to get a ROM upgrade to use a 1.4 Mb floppy drive with
a Mac II? Or are there 3rd party drives which work with the Mac II's
own ROMs?
Thanks,
Ralph
--
Ralph Gonzalez, Computer Science, Rutgers Univ., Camden, NJ
Phone: (609) 225-6122; Internet: rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu
--
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8134 | From: ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau)
Subject: Boom! Dog attack!
Reply-To: ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau)
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics-Vancouver B.C.-(604)986-9937 (604)255-9937
Lines: 59
My previous posting on dog attacks must have generated some bad karma or
something. I've weathered attempted dog attacks before using the
approved method: Slow down to screw up dog's triangulation of target,
then take off and laugh at the dog, now far behind you. This time, it
didn't work because I didn't have time. Riding up the hill leading to my
house, I encountered a liver-and-white Springer Spaniel (no relation to
the Springer Softail, or the Springer Spagthorpe, a close relation to
the Spagthorpe Viking). Actually, the dog encountered me with intent to
harm.
But I digress: I was riding near the (unpainted) centerline of the
roughly 30-foot wide road, doing between forty and sixty clicks (30 mph
for the velocity-impaired). The dog shot at me from behind bushes on the
left side of the road at an impossibly high speed. I later learned he
had been accelerating from the front porch, about thirty feet away,
heading down the very gently sloped approach to the side of the road. I
saw the dog, and before you could say SIPDE, he was on me. Boom! I took
the dog in the left leg, and from the marks on the bike my leg was
driven up the side of the bike with considerable force, making permanent
marks on the plastic parts of the bike, and cracking one panel. I think
I saw the dog spin around when I looked back, but my memory of this
moment is hazy.
I next turned around, and picked the most likely looking house. The
apologetic woman explained that the dog was not seriously hurt (cut
mouth) and hoped I was not hurt either. I could feel the pain in my
shin, and expected a cool purple welt to form soon. Sadly, it has not.
So I'm left with a tender shin, and no cool battle scars!
Interestingly, the one thing that never happened was that the bike never
moved off course. The not inconsiderable impact did not push the bike
off course, nor did it cause me to put the bike out of control from some
gut reaction to the sudden impact. Delayed pain may have helped me
here, as I didn't feel a sudden sharp pain that I can remember.
What worries me about the accident is this: I don't think I could have
prevented it except by traveling much slower than I was. This is not
necessarily an unreasonable suggestion for a residential area, but I was
riding around the speed limit. I worry about what would have happened if
it had been a car instead of a dog, but I console myself with the
thought that it would take a truly insane BDI cager to whip out of a
blind driveway at 15-30 mph. For that matter, how many driveways are
long enough for a car to hit 30 mph by the end?
I eagerly await comment.
Ryan Cousinetc.|1982 Yamaha Vision XZ550 -Black Pig of Inverness|Live to Ride
KotRB |1958 AJS 500 C/S -King Rat |to Work to
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* SLMR 2.1a * "He's hurt." "Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor -- oh, right."
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8135 | From: libman@hsc.usc.edu (Marlena Libman)
Subject: Need advice with doctor-patient relationship problem
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 64
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu
I need advice with a situation which occurred between me and a physican
which upset me. I saw this doctor for a problem with recurring pain.
He suggested medication and a course of treatment, and told me that I
need to call him 7 days after I begin the medication so that he may
monitor its effectiveness, as well as my general health.
I did exactly as he asked, and made the call (reaching his secretary).
I explained to her that I was following up at the doctor's request,
and that I was worried because the pain episodes were becoming more
frequent and the medication did not seem effective.
The doctor called me back, and his first words were, "Whatever you want,
you'd better make it quick. I'm very busy and don't have time to chit-
chat with you!" I told him I was simply following his instructions to
call on the 7th day to status him, and that I was feeling worse. I
then asked if perhaps there was a better time for us to talk when he
had more time. He responded, "Just spit it out now because no time is
a good time." (Said in a raised voice.) I started to feel upset and
tried to explain quickly what was going on with my condition but my
nervousness interfered with my choice of words and I kind of stuttered
and then said "well, never mind" and he said he'll talk to various
colleagues about other medications and he'll call me some other time.
This doctor called me that evening and said because I didn't express
myself well, he was confused about what I wanted. At this point I
was pretty upset and I told him (in an amazingly polite voice considering
how angry I felt) that his earlier manner had hurt my feelings. He told
me that he just doesn't have time to "rap with patients" and thought
that was what I wanted. I told him that to assume I was calling to
"rap" was insulting, and said again that I was just following through
on his orders. He responded that he resented the implication that he
felt I was making that he was not interested in learning about what his
patients have to say about their condition status. He then gave me
this apology: "I am sorry that there was a miscommunication and you
mistakenly thought I was insulting. I am not trying to insult you
but I am not that knowledgeable about pain, and I don't have a lot of
time to deal with that." He then told me to call him the next day
for further instructions on how do deal with my pain and medication.
I am still upset and have not yet called.
My questions: (1) Should I continue to have this doctor manage my care?
(2) Since I am in pain off and on, I realize that this may cause me to
be more anxietous so am I perhaps over-reacting or overly sensitive?
If this doctor refers me to his colleague who knows more about the type
of pain I have, he still wants me to status him on my condition but
now I am afraid to call him.
--Marlena
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8136 | From: gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
Lines: 65
] gtoal@news.ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
] > Try reading between the lines David - there are *strong* hints in there
] > that they're angling for NREN next,
] Where? I honestly didn't see any...
Hint 1:
: Sophisticated encryption technology has been used for years to
: protect electronic funds transfer. It is now being used to
: protect electronic mail and computer files. While encryption
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hint 2:
: This new technology will help companies protect proprietary
: information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations
: and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: electronically. At the same time this technology preserves the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: -- the privacy of our citizens, including the need to
: employ voice or data encryption for business purposes;
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: -- the ability of authorized officials to access telephone
: calls and data, under proper court or other legal
^^^^^^^^
: order, when necessary to protect our citizens;
VERY BIG HINT 3:
# The Administration is committed to working with the private
# sector to spur the development of a National Information
# Infrastructure which will use new telecommunications and computer
# technologies to give Americans unprecedented access to
# information. This infrastructure of high-speed networks
# ("information superhighways") will transmit video, images, HDTV
# programming, and huge data files as easily as today's telephone
# system transmits voice.
VERY BIG HINT 4: (See above)
## Since encryption technology will play an increasingly important
## role in that infrastructure, the Federal Government must act
## quickly to develop consistent, comprehensive policies regarding
## its use.
] > and the only conceivable meaning of
] > applying this particular technology to a computer network is that they
] > intend it to be used in exclusion to any other means of encryption.
] I disagree, if for no other reason than that there are already other
] standards in place. Besides, even if they restrict encryption on the NREN,
] who cares? Most of the Internet is commercial anyway. The NREN is only for
] geovernment and university research (read the proposals--it's a "data
] superhighway" for Cray users, not anything having to do with the Internet).
Oh, I see your point. I think you're wrong. But if you sit back and wait
to find out if I'm right, it'll be too late. Just listen *very* carefully
for the first 'such and such will not be permitted on network XYZ' shoe to
drop.
G
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8137 | From: LLARSEN@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: >>> porsche 928<<
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Lines: 6
posting for a friend
1982 porsche 928 new this vehicle was $74,000
today book list this vehicle between 11,500 to 15,000
perfect in every way with all options including new paint, leather interior,
sunroof and low miles
call (408) 264-4444 ask for frank and lets negotiate trades considered
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8138 | From: bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down)
Subject: Re: Bridgman is out
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Lines: 31
slacelle@gandalf.ca (Stephane Lacelle) writes:
>The Ottwawa Senators fired Mel Bridgman at 1:00 PM today.
>Randy Sexton is gonna replace him.
Trashy move from a trashy organization. After the front
office stated that nobody would lose their job over the
Sens. poor performance, Bridgeman is gone within 24 hours
of the teams final game.
Yes...I know he screwed up letting the King's grab Loach.
Sexton's qualifications (aside from being cheap)??
- he played some US college hockey,
- he's pals with club president Bruce Firestone.
Just the kind of experience you need when trying to build
an expansion franchise. He'll probably be in the Hall of
Fame next year! :-)
This continues a tradition of front office gaffs:
- Paul Anka and the arena deal
- Denis Potvin and the GM postion
- Mike Bossy and the scoring coach.
How do people in Ottawa feel about how the club is being run??
>Stephane Lacelle
Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu)
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8139 | From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Stan Fischler, 4/16 (Keenan stuff!)
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 16
In article <1993Apr17.015225.29031@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>
>* The Oilers will charge to eat in the Press Room next year.
>
There was an article in one of the Toronto papers about this a few
months ago...probably the Globe and Mail...
...any ethical "journalist", even a sports journalist should not
accept free meals from a team in any case, which was the one of
the points the article was making.
Admittdly, most sports reporting is mostly with any ethical
standards...
Gerald
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8140 | From: gmh@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Hughes)
Subject: Re: Looking for an R5 Xserver for HP9000/385
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Lines: 3
Update your 385 to HP-UX 9.0. You get an R5 server and libraries.
Greg Hughes gmh@fc.hp.com
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8141 | From: ah499@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John Daniels)
Subject: HELP!: Apple II Expansion Chassis by Mountain Computer
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Lines: 25
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu
I recently bought an apparantly complete Expansion Chassis by Mountain
Computer Inc. It consists of a box with 8 Apple ][+ compatible slots,
powersupply brick, interface card and ribbon cable to attach it to the computer
to be expanded. There was also included a small card with empty sockets on top
and pins on the bottom that looks like it would plug into the ][+ motherboard
somewhere after pulling a chip. There's an empty socket also on the interface
card and a short 16-pin DIP jumper like the ones used with ][+ language cards.
This technological marvel came with no docs and I haven't a clue as how to hook
this thing up. If anyone has docs and/or users disk of any sort for this I
could really use copies of them or at least some help.
I need to know:
o How to orient the ribbon cable between the card and the chassis.
o How to attach the short cable from the motherboard to the card
and if the small card is used.
o The purposes of the various jumper-pins on the card (it has more
of those than my CMS SCSI card!)
thanks John Daniels
ah499@cleveland.freenet.edu
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8142 | From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
Subject: Re: Commercial mining activities on the moon
Organization: Lick Observatory/UCO
Lines: 26
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In article <1r46j3INN14j@mojo.eng.umd.edu> sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney) writes:
In article <STEINLY.93Apr20160116@topaz.ucsc.edu>, steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
>Very cost effective if you use the right accounting method :-)
Sherzer Methodology!!!!!!
Hell, yes. I'm not going to let a bunch of seven suits tell
me what the right way to estimate cost effectiveness is, at
least not until they can make their mind up long enough
to leave their scheme stable for a fiscal year or two.
Seriously though. If you were to ask the British government
whether their colonisation efforts in the Americas were cost
effective, what answer do you think you'd get? What if you asked
in 1765, 1815, 1865, 1915 and 1945 respectively? ;-)
* Steinn Sigurdsson Lick Observatory *
* steinly@lick.ucsc.edu "standard disclaimer" *
* If you ever have to go to Shoeburyness *
* Take the A-road, the ok road, that's the best! *
* Go motoring on The A13! - BB 1983 *
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8143 | From: young@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (YOUNG Shio Hong)
Subject: Looking for Dr. Bala R. Vatti's email address
Nntp-Posting-Host: rabbit-gw
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan.
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Hi!
I am looking for the email address of the author to
"A Generic Solution to Polygon Clipping",
Communication of the ACM, July 1992, Vol. 35, No. 7.
I got information about the author as follows
Mr. Bala R. Vatti
LCEC, 65 River Road, Hudson, N.H. 03051
email: vatti@waynar.lcec.lockheed
I want to get some related and detailed papers about the
same topic from the author. But I failed to send my email
to the address. Any information is appreciated.
Thank you very much.
Best regards.
S. H. Young
Kunii Lab
Dept. of Information Science
Faculty of Science
University of Tokyo
Bunkyo-Ku, Hongo 7-3-1
113 Tokyo, Japan
email: young@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
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8144 | From: duijnda@wldelft.nl (ArnoDuijndam)
Subject: Re: creating a GIF file.
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Organization: Delft Hydraulics
In article <9304261216.AA04485@crnsu1.in2p3.fr> michel@crnsu1.IN2p3.FR (6893) writes:
>Path: wldelft.nl!sun4nl!mcsun!uunet!gatech!enterpoop.mit.edu!INTERNET!news-mail-gateway
>From: michel@crnsu1.IN2p3.FR (6893)
>Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
>Subject: creating a GIF file.
>Date: 26 Apr 1993 10:43:28 -0400
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>To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
>
> We are looking for a X client which can convert a xwd or a bitmap
>file into a gif file for use on a Macintosh.
>
> Thanks
>
> michel@crnsu1.in2p3.fr
> Laurent MICHEL
> CRN - GTI
> BP 20
> 67037 STRASBOURG cedex (France)
> Phone (33) 88 28 62 76
Just look at the pbmplus package; it does everything you could ever ask
for in converting pbm to almost any format (gif, tga, pcx etc...)
Arno Duijndam
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8145 | From: davis@b11.b11.ingr.com (Chris Davis)
Subject: For Sale or Trade: IBM Games
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
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***** IBM GAMES FOR SALE OR TRADE *****
o ADVENTURE
Eric the Unready -- Legend -- $35
King's Quest V -- Sierra -- CD-ROM edition -- $35
o SPORTS
Michael Jordan In Flight -- Electronic Arts -- $35
Mike Ditka's Ultimate Football -- Accolade -- $30
David Ledbetter's Greens -- Microprose -- $30
o STRATEGY
Risk -- Virgin -- $10
This software comes with all original packaging and manuals.
Price includes ground shipping to continental US.
I will trade for current games; send me your list...
--
chris davis
ccdavis@nuwave.b11.ingr.com
205-730-6236
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8146 | From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Pantheism & Environmentalism
Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences
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In article <Apr.13.00.08.04.1993.28376@athos.rutgers.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
In article <Apr.12.03.44.17.1993.18833@athos.rutgers.edu> heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath) writes:
> I realize I'm entering this discussion rather late, but I do
>have one question. Wasn't it a Reagan appointee, James Watt, a
>pentacostal christian (I think) who was the secretary of the interior
>who saw no problem with deforestation since we were "living in the
>last days" and ours would be the last generation to see the redwoods
>anyway?
I heard the same thing, but without confirmation that he actually said it.
It was just as alarming to us as to you; the Bible says that nobody knows
when the second coming will take place.
Nor does it say that if you *do* find out when it will happen you
should rape everything in sight just before.
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8147 | From: armstrng@cs.dal.ca (Stan Armstrong)
Subject: Immaterial afterlife (was Is Hell Real)
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
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In article <C4zAyM.M9u@spss.com> goer@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>I thought everyone who died simply went to Sheol. The notion of going to
>heaven is a Christianization based on those parts of the NT that speak of
>an immaterial afterlife.
>
> -Richard L. Goerwitz goer%midway@uchicago.bitnet
> goer@midway.uchicago.edu rutgers!oddjob!ellis!goer
>
Where in the Bible is there *any* teaching about an immaterial afterlife?
I was always taught that both the O.T. Jews and the N.T. Christians would
have found the notion incomprehensible--as do I.
Don't we christians believe in the resurrection of the body?
Or do you mean by material simply the stuff made of the 100+ elements
that we know and love too much?
--
Stan Armstrong. Religious Studies Dept, Saint Mary's University, Halifax, N.S.
Armstrong@husky1.stmarys.ca | att!clyde!watmath!water!dalcs!armstrng
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8148 | Subject: Rendering Software for Multi-processor Computer S
From: wcarter@trident.datasys.swri.edu (William Carter)
Organization: Southwest Research Institute
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Hello,
I am searching for rendering software which has been developed
to specifically take advantage of multi-processor computer systems.
Any pointers to such software would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
--
Billy Carter, Software Engineering Section
Southwest Research Institute
wcarter@swri.edu
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8149 | From: dlo@druwa.ATT.COM (OlsonDL)
Subject: Re: Ban All Firearms !
Lines: 16
In article <1qc5sa$obl@pandora.sdsu.edu>, chiu@io.nosc.mil (Francis Chiu) writes:
} A note on the lighter side, I've noticed most gun-banners (some of my
} friends included) are the one who make comments that indicate they are
} more likely to resort to violent. So are they really banning guns so they
} wouldn't end up shooting someone else?
Could be.
It is also likely that since they feel they are more likely to resort to
violence, they have a hard time believing that anyone else would react
otherwise.
--
David Olson dlo@drutx.att.com
"Well, I did say we'll put it out and we'll put it out when we can.
But I don't know what we can put out or when we can put it out."
-- George Stephanopolous.
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8150 | From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: Changing oil by self.
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In article <1993Apr15.222254.6651@rtfm.mlb.fl.us> gwalker@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Grays
on Walker) writes:
>Why crawl under the car at all? I have a machine I got for my boat that
>pulls the oil out under suction through the dip stick tube. It does an
>excellent job and by moving the suction tube around, you can get more
>old oil out than by using the drain plug. I think I paid $25 at E&B Marine.
>The oil goes into a steel 3 gal can - wait until it cools and decant into
>your favorite device. I use soft drink bottles. Easy to take them down to
>the local oil recycle center.
Yeah I suppose you could do that. But then you don't get the broken knuckles,
the rust in your eyes, the oil bath, and the burns from the exhaust.
I mean come on!...
Steve
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8151 | From: lars@spectrum.CMC.COM (Lars Poulsen)
Subject: Re: Is there ANY security in the Clipper?
Organization: CMC Network Systems (Rockwell DCD), Santa Barbara, CA, USA
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In article <ZEEV.93Apr18014822@sepia.ccc.amdahl.com> zeev@ccc.amdahl.com (Ze'ev Wurman) writes:
>It seems to me that all discussions about Clipper security are almost
>irrelevant - if I cannot choose the key, but have to use a key chosen for
>me by the foundry, the security of the WHOLE UNIVERSE OF USERS is as good
>(or as bad) as the security of VLSI Technologies Inc.
- or their handlers.
>It is a trivial effort to run any ciphertext agains ALL THE KEYS EVER
>MANUFACTURED - after all we are talking about 1 to 100 million keys that
>will ever be manufactured. The key depositories can be as secure and
>incorruptible as they wish to be, nobody cares anyway...:-(
They key depositories are IRRELEVANT. In order for the applicable law
enformcement agencies to be able to know what keys to request from
escrow, the system will have to squawk its serial number in clear text
as part of the link establishment protocol. Whoever owns the program
that assigns keys to each serial number won't need access to the key
depository.
In other words, the FBI may need a court-ordered release of escrowed
keys, but the NSA has the keys before the chip is ever manufactured.
There is no need to go through the escrow or to try all keys. While
relations between law enforment agencies have sometimes been strained,
there is also a long history of trading favors. This will re-establish
the NSA as a very important agency for everyone to get along with,
because they can give you untraceable encryption leaks without court
orders.
The more I think about this affair, the fouler it smells. I'd rather
have a DES with an engineered-in backdoor ...
--
/ Lars Poulsen, SMTS Software Engineer Internet E-mail: lars@CMC.COM
CMC Network Products / Rockwell Int'l Telephone: +1-805-968-4262
Santa Barbara, CA 93117-3083 TeleFAX: +1-805-968-8256
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8152 | From: cbn7g@Virginia.EDU (Christopher Bass Nystrom)
Subject: Re: ESPN Tonight
Article-I.D.: Virginia.1993Apr15.215144.10182
Organization: University of Virginia
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swartzjh@RoseVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu writes:
> Has anyone heard what game ESPN is showing tonight. They said they will
> show whatever game means the most playoff-wise. I would assume this would
> be the Blues-Tampa game or the Minnesota-Red Wings game... Anyone heard for
> sure???
>
>
> Jeff Swartz
It's going to be the Stars - Wings game
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8153 | From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: na
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In <24485@drutx.ATT.COM> klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL) writes:
>In article <C5HHGM.1rM@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>, callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) writes:
>| In article <1993Apr13.215605.26252@slcs.slb.com> dcd@se.houston.geoquest.slb.com (Dan Day) writes:
>| >In article <1q4466INNb85@ctron-news.ctron.com> smith@ctron.com writes:
>| >>
>| >>It's a big aftermarket business. Almost no cars come from the factory with
>| >>vynal any more, and any fake "convertible" job _definitely_ came from some
>| >>aftermarket place. What amazes me is how much people are willing to pay for
>| >>bad taste
>| >
>| >How about those really ugly fake wheel compartments stuck onto the
>| >trunk or side (or both sides!) of some tacky luxury cars?
>|
>| Some of 'em aren't fake (if you're talking about the Continental kit,
>| named after the Lincoln Continental, the first car to sport one). I
>| personally would _love_ to have a '56 T-Bird with a Continental kit
>| (and the supercharged V-8 :-); that is one of the most beautiful
>| cars ever built, IMHO.
>|
>| James
>|
>The Continental may have been the first "modern era" auto to mount the
>spare on the rear of the car but it was hardly the first car to sport one.
>Various mounting techniques for rear mounting the spare were quite common
>in early automobiles, both US and Foreign.
>--
Right. In the thirties both Buick and Packard had two spares mounted in
wells in the front fenders. Of course that was back when the front
fenders were long enough to provide room. There were a couple of other
marques that did this as well, but memory fades.
>Ken Franklin They say there's a heaven for people who wait
>AMA And some say it's better but I say it ain't
>GWRRA I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
>DoD #0126 The sinners are lots more fun, Y'know only the good die young
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8154 | From: spira@panix.com (Greg Spira)
Subject: Re: And America's Team is....But Why?
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
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In article <C5p3yr.GH2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes:
>
> The defenition of the Underdog is a team that has no talent and comes
>out of nowhere to contend. The '69 Mets and '89 Orioles are prime examples,
Uh, I don't think you can call a team with Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman,
and Nolan Ryan on the pitching staff a team that has "no talent." They
did come out of nowhere, but some of the improvement was
forseeable.
Greg
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8155 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: food-related seizures?
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
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In article <116305@bu.edu> dozonoff@bu.edu (david ozonoff) writes:
>
>Many of these cereals are corn-based. After your post I looked in the
>literature and located two articles that implicated corn (contains
>tryptophan) and seizures. The idea is that corn in the diet might
>potentiate an already existing or latent seizure disorder, not cause it.
>Check to see if the two Kellog cereals are corn based. I'd be interested.
Years ago when I was an intern, an obese young woman was brought into
the ER comatose after having been reported to have grand mal seizures
why attending a "corn festival". We pumped her stomach and obtained
what seemed like a couple of liters of corn, much of it intact kernals.
After a few hours she woke up and was fine. I was tempted to sign her out as
"acute corn intoxication."
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8156 | From: dericks@plains.NoDak.edu (Dale Erickson)
Subject: Telix problem
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Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
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When I use telix (or kermit) in WIN 3.1, or use telix after exiting windows
to dos, telix can not find the serial port. If you have some ideas on how
to solve this problem or where I can find further information, send me email
or send it to the news group. Thanks.
Dale Erickson
dericks@plains.nodak.edu
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8157 | From: vergolin@euler.lbs.msu.edu (David Vergolini)
Subject: Detroit Tigers
Organization: Michigan State University
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Summary: Who can stop the roar of the Tiger's bats.
Keywords: Detroit is the top offensive team in the league
The roar at Michigan and Trumbull should be loader than ever this year. With
Mike Illitch at the head and Ernie Harwell back at the booth, the tiger bats
will bang this summer. Already they have scored 20 runs in two games and with
Fielder, Tettleton, and Deer I think they can win the division. No pitching!
Bull! Gully, Moore, Wells, and Krueger make up a decent staff that will keep
the team into many games. Then there is Henneman to close it out. Watch out
Boston, Toronto, and Baltimore - the Motor City Kittys are back.
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8158 | From: pspod@hooch.lerc.nasa.gov (Steve Podleski)
Subject: Re: Waco, they did it. ( MASADA )
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
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fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:
>msn@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Mike 'HK G3ZF Full-Auto' Newsome) writes:
>>> I'm sick to my stomach as I write this. The BD compound
>>> is on fire, and will burn to the ground in minutes.
>I used exactly this one-word reply, to suggest a likely ending to
>the siege several weeks ago. But like Masada, this wasn't entirely
>a government action: The defenders held out as long as they could,
>and then killed themselves, their families and their children
>rather than surrender. Israel calls the action of the Zelots
>"heroic", and trains their army to follow this example. Now that
>someone has repeated this action in modern times, what do we call it?
Liberals and supporters of Clinton say that costs made the action
necessary.
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8159 | From: johnh@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (John Haddy)
Subject: Re: Oscilloscope triggering
Organization: Macquarie University
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Distribution: world
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In article <1993Apr5.120921.28985@dxcern.cern.ch>, jeroen@dxcern.cern.ch (Jeroen Belleman) writes:
|> In article <C4vs0G.5ux@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dgj2y@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (David Glen Jacobowitz) writes:
|> > Is it just me, or does anybody else out there NOT like digital
|> >scopes. My school has ...
|> >
|> > David Jacobowitz
|> > dgj2y@virginia.edu
|>
|> Oh no you're not the only one. Analogue scopes give you (or me, at
|> least) a fair idea of what's going on in a circuit. Digital scopes
|> seem to have a habit of inventing a sizable part of it. E.g. even
|> when there are only a few samples per period, our HP54510A displays a
|> continuous waveform, complete with non-existing overshoots. I've
|> waded through lots of manual pages and menus, but I haven't found yet
|> how to turn this off. It doesn't show which points have actually
|> been measured, as opposed to those which have been interpolated,
|> either.
Perhaps you're using the wrong brand! (Sorry all HP fans, but I have
a hard time being convinced that their scopes match the rest of their
(excellent) gear).
One of the principal functions I look for when considering a DSO is
whether you can turn interpolation off. The other important feature
is to disable repetitive waveform acquisition i.e. being able to lock
the instrument into real time capture mode.
|>
|> Secondly, I don't like menus. I want to see all common functions
|> with their own button. (You'll have guessed I love analogue Tek
|> scopes) I'd choose a knob with printed legend over an on-screen
|> display with up-down buttons right away. The single knob of most
|> digital instruments never seems to be connected to the right function
|> at the right moment.
|>
I agree with you here. The only consolation is that manufacturers are
_beginning_ to pay attention to ergonomics when designing the menus.
However, to be fair, it seems that first time scope users (our students)
seem to adjust to menus easier than navigating around the twenty or
more knobs required of a "real" scope :-)
|> Last but not least, you never know if the waveform displayed is old
|> or recent, noisy or just incoherently modulated, heck, you don't
|> even know if it really looks the way it's displayed. Digital scopes
|> only show you a tiny fraction of what's going on. Most of the time
|> the're busy computing things.
This is one area that newer DSOs are addressing. I recently evaluated
the latest box from Tek - their TDS320 - which seems to be a worthy
alternative to a standard 100MHz analogue CRO. This instrument has
a 100MHz, 500Ms/s spec, meaning that it is _always_ in real time
capture mode. The pricing also matches equivalent analogue scopes in
the range. The downer is that the instrument uses menus again, but at
least they appear to be logically laid out.
|>
|> There are only three situations for which I would prefer a digital
|> scope: Looking at what happened before the trigger, looking at rare
|> events, and acquiring the data to have my computer play with it.
|>
|>
|> Let's hope scope manufacturers are listening...
|>
|> Best regards,
|> Jeroen Belleman
|> jeroen@dxcern.cern.ch
One more thing about the new, "simpler", front panels. These instruments
tend to use digital rotary encoders as knobs now. This is a vast improvement
over the old oak switch. The single most common cause of failure in our
scopes (other than students blowing up inputs!) is mechanical wear on these
switches. I look at the new panels as a great step toward increasing the
longevity of the instruments.
JohnH
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8160 | From: VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30)
Subject: Jewish Baseball Players?
Organization: Lafayette College
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Originator: news@lafcol
Nntp-Posting-Host: lafibm
Just wondering. A friend and I were talking the other day, and
we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
humor us. Thanks for your help.
Thanks.
Bobby
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8161 | From: steve@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Steve Glicker)
Subject: 2 1000W Power Supplies
Nntp-Posting-Host: rooster
Organization: Applied Research Labs, The University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: misc
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Two LH Research SM11-1 power supplies (SM10 series).
1000W, 5V, 200A (currently wired for 115VAC)
Control lines: +/- sense, on/off, pwr.fail, high/low margin, and
current monitor.
(The list price from LH Research is $824.00 each for qty. 1-9)
Asking $500.00 for the pair.
Steve Glicker
Austin, Texas
(steve@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu)
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8162 | From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: water in trunk of 89 Probe??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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tszeto@sneezy.ts.stratus.com (Tommy Szeto) writes:
>Water gradually builds up in the trunk of my friend's 89 Ford Probe. Every
>once in a while we would have to remove the spare and scoop out the water
>under the plywood/carpet cover on the trunk. I would guess this usually happens
>after a good thunder storm. A few Qs:
>1) Is this a common problem?
Yes this is a common problem. The leaks occur through the seal of the
taillights. Unfortunately, Ford has this with Most Probes and does
not have a recall for it. Very dissatisfying to say the least.
>2) Where are the drain holes located for the hatch?
There is no drain holes that I know of. I used a margine tub to drain it
Regretably I waited three months as I was short cash and they wouldn't fix it
under warrantee. Then I paid dearly as it messed up my electrical system
including a balance/motion sensor which is located near the fuel shutoff in
the trunk. This resulted in my passive restraints malfunctioning--they would
not retract. So I ended up paying about $200 to have the sensor replaced;
$90 to have the tail lights resealed (they firts replaced the hatch gasket
which I insisted was not the problem so they did not charge me for that
when I proved to be right.); not to mention the water damage to the
covers to the trunk/spare com partment and algae in the taillights.
very annoying. Don't let the water problem go--get it fixed or you'll pay
more later. Considering how common a problem it is I hope every one
complains to Ford.
>Thanks for any info.
>Tom
>--
>Tom Szeto "No! Not those peanuts! The ones on the
>tszeto@sneezy.ts.stratus.com bottom....ggnuuaahuuhh"
>#include <disclaimer.h> - Homer Simpson
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8163 | From: bm967@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Kantrowitz)
Subject: Can you share one monitor w/ 2 cpus?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu
I have a Centris 610 & want to get an IBM machine as well.
To save space on my desk, I would like to use one monitor
for both, with a switch-box. Does anyone know of a way to do
this?
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8164 | From: rob@rjck.UUCP (Robert J.C. Kyanko)
Subject: Re: Weitek P9000 ?
Distribution: world
Organization: Neptune Software Inc
Lines: 23
abraxis@iastate.edu writes in article <abraxis.734340159@class1.iastate.edu>:
>
> Anyone know about the Weitek P9000 graphics chip?
> Micron is selling it with their systems They rank them at 50 winmarks...
> Any info would help...
> thanks.
It's supposedly a high-performance chip based upon workstation graphics
accelerators. It's quite fast (I have 7), but as usual with new boards/chips
the drivers are buggy for Windows. As far as Winmarks go, it depends upon
the version. I think I got 42M winmarks with version 3.11. 2.5 yielded the
50+ number. I've also benchmarked this with Wintach at over 65 (from memory
as well).
As far as the low-level stuff goes, it looks pretty nice. It's got this
quadrilateral fill command that requires just the four points.
It's very fast, but beware of buggy drivers, and otherwise no non-windows
support.
--
I am not responsible for anything I do or say -- I'm just an opinion.
Robert J.C. Kyanko (rob@rjck.UUCP)
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8165 | From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Ten questions about Israel
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Lines: 21
cpr@igc.apc.org (Center for Policy Research) writes:
# 3. Is it true that Israeli stocks nuclear weapons ? If so,
# could you provide any evidence ?
Yes, Israel has nuclear weapons. However:
1) Their use so far has been restricted to killing deer, by LSD addicted
"Cherrie" soldiers.
2) They are locked in the cellar of the "Garinei Afula" factory, and since
the Gingi lost the key, no one can use them anymore.
3) Even if the Gingi finds the key, the chief Rabbis have a time lock
on the bombs that does not allow them to be activated on the Sabbath
and during weeks which follow victories of the Betar Jerusalem soccer
team. A quick glance at the National League score table will reveal
the strategic importance of this fact.
-Danny Keren.
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8166 | From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Lines: 60
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dante.nmsu.edu
wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
>This doesn't answer the original question. IS OS/2 a multi-user OS?
>And no mention was made of an ether card either. But from a disk/data
>point of view, why does SCSI have an advantage when it comes to multi-
>tasking? Data is data, and it could be anywhere on the drive. Can
>SCSI find it faster? can it get it off the drive and into the computer
>faster? Does it have a better cache system? I thought SCSI was good at
>managing a data bus when multiple devices are attached. If we are
>only talking about a single drive, explain why SCSI is inherently
>faster at managing data from a hard drive.
You are making the same mistake I did: you are confusing the DRIVE
interface to the DATA THROUGHPUT interface. Again from my Mac & IBM info
sheet {available by FTP on sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6) in the
info-mac/report as mac-ibm-compare173.txt}:
Expansion
Both Mac & IBM
SCSI: only external device expansion interface common to both Mac and IBM.
Allows the use of any device: hard drive, printer, scanner, Nubus card
expansion {Mac Plus only}, some monitors, and CD-ROM. Apple developed some
specifications for SCSI controlers while IBM has no exact controller
specifications {which results in added incompatibilities on IBM machines}.
Main problem: there are a lot of external devices which are internal
terminated which causes problems for more then two devises off the SCSI port
{A SCSI chain is supposed to be terminated ONLY at the begining and at the
end. Any other set up causes problems for either Mac or IBM}.
SCSI-1: 7 devices per SCSI controller. 8-bit asynchronous {~1.5MB/s ave}
and synchronous {5MB/s max} transfer base. 16-bit SCSI-1 requires a
SCSI-2 controler chip and can provide only fast SCSI-2 not wide SCSI-2
which are both 16-bit interfaces {see SCSI-2}.
SCSI-2: 10 devices per SCSI controller in SCSI-2 mode. SCSI-2 is fully
SCSI-1 complient and tends to be implimented as a very fast SCSI-1 since it
needs a different controller interface in both hardware {which tends to be
very expendsive} and software. Transfer speeds are 4-6MB/s with 10MB/s burst
{8-bit}, 8-12MB/s with 20MB/s burst {16-bit}, and 15-20MB/s with 40MB/s burst
{32-bit/wide and fast}. SCSI-2 in SCSI-1 mode is limited to 7 devices and
reduced 8-bit or 16-bit {fast only} throughput due to the difference between
SCSI-1 and wide SCSI-2 ports.
IBM
HD Interfaces {limited to hard drives by design or lack of development}:
[...]
IDE: Integrated Device Electronics
currently the most common standard, and is mainly used for medium sized
drives. Can have more than one hard drive. Asynchronous Transfer: ~5MB/s max.
So at its LOWEST setting SCSI-2 interface in Asynchronous SCSI-1 mode AVERAGES
the through put MAXIMUM of IDE in asynchronous mode. In full SCSI-2 mode
it blows poor IDE out the window, down the street, and into the garbage can.
The problem becomes can the drive mechanisim keep up with those through put
rates and THAT is where the bottleneck and cost of SCSI-2 comes from. NOT
the interface itself but more and more from drive mechanisims to use the
SCSI-2 through put. The cost of SCSI interface is a self fulliling
prophisy: few people buy SCSI because it is so expencive for the PC, which
in turn convices makes that mass producing SCSI {which would reduce its
cost} is unwarented, and so SCSI is expencive. {That is the effect of the
Rule of Scale: the more items sold the less EACH item has to bare the brunt
the cost of manufacture and so the less each item has to cost}
SCSI-2 allows a drive mechanisims through put to be limited by the DRIVE while
IDE itself limits the through put.
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8167 | From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: Orbital RepairStation
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Lines: 20
In article <C5HCBo.Joy@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>The biggest problem with this is that all orbits are not alike. It can
>actually be more expensive to reach a satellite from another orbit than
>from the ground.
But with cheaper fuel from space based sources it will be cheaper to
reach more orbits than from the ground.
Also remember, that the presence of a repair/supply facility adds value
to the space around it. If you can put your satellite in an orbit where it
can be reached by a ready source of supply you can make it cheaper and gain
benefit from economies of scale.
Allen
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8168 | From: petrack@vnet.IBM.COM
Subject: changing port buffer size in ZTerm
Reply-To: petrack@vnet.IBM.COM
Disclaimer: This posting may contain no views at all
News-Software: Usenet 3.1
Lines: 21
Some kind soul told me that I could change the serial port buffer size
of Zterm via ResEdit. He did not tell me HOW I could change it using
ResEdit, and I have lost his e-mail address.
Could he or any one else please tell me what to do?
I assume that the relevant resource is zSet, but I do not know, and
I have no template for that resource. If you have a TMPL for the correct
resource, I would be grateful to receive it. That way, I could play around
a bit and maybe get my Duo to do something useful with its serial port.
(other than Appletalk).
BTW, I believe that when the port stats says that maximum in buffer is
3074 bytes, that that means increasing the buffer will help, if you are
using hardware handshaking. I can cram text data pretty fast into my Duo,
and can monitor that CTS is being lowered, but the buffer never gets beyond
3074 (out of 4096) bytes. Makes sense to me.
Scott Petrack
Petrack@haifasc3.vnet.ibm.com
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8169 | From: cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk (Michael C Davis)
Subject: Re: WBT (WAS: Re: phone number of wycliffe translators UK)
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
Lines: 17
poram%mlsma@att.att.com wrote:
: Having met Peter Kingston (of WBT) some years back, he struck me
: as an exemplery and dedicated Christian whose main concern was with
: translation of the Word of God and the welfare of the people
: group he was serving.
: WBT literature is concerned mainly with providing Scripture
: in minority languages.
Yes, in fact Peter is now at Wycliffe HQ in the U.K., and is a member of my
church. I would fully endorse the above -- Peter is a very Godly man, with a
passion for serving Christ.
On one occasion he specifically addressed the issue of ``cultural
interference'' in a sermon, presumably from his experience of allegations
directed at Wycliffe. (Perhaps I could find the tape...?)
--
Michael Davis (cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk)
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8170 | From: kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran)
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Lines: 66
In article <1ql06qINN2kf@gap.caltech.edu> keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
>kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>>Schneider
>>>Natural morality may specifically be thought of as a code of ethics that
>>>a certain species has developed in order to survive.
>>Wait. Are we talking about ethics or morals here?
>
>Is the distinction important?
Yes.
>>>We see this countless
>>>times in the animal kingdom, and such a "natural" system is the basis for
>>>our own system as well.
>>Huh?
>
>Well, our moral system seems to mimic the natural one, in a number of ways.
Please describe these "number of ways" in detail. Then explain the any
contradictions that may arise.
>>>In order for humans to thrive, we seem to need
>>>to live in groups,
>>Here's your problem. "we *SEEM* to need". What's wrong with the highlighted
>>word?
>
>I don't know. What is wrong? Is it possible for humans to survive for
>a long time in the wild? Yes, it's possible, but it is difficult. Humans
>are a social animal, and that is a cause of our success.
Define "difficult".
>>>and in order for a group to function effectively, it
>>>needs some sort of ethical code.
>>This statement is not correct.
>
>Isn't it? Why don't you think so?
Explain the laws in America stating that you have to drive on the right-
hand side of the road.
>>>And, by pointing out that a species' conduct serves to propogate itself,
>>>I am not trying to give you your tautology, but I am trying to show that
>>>such are examples of moral systems with a goal. Propogation of the species
>>>is a goal of a natural system of morality.
>>So anybody who lives in a monagamous relationship is not moral? After all,
>>in order to ensure propogation of the species, every man should impregnate
>>as many women as possible.
>
>No. As noted earlier, lack of mating (such as abstinence or homosexuality)
>isn't really destructive to the system. It is a worst neutral.
So if every member of the species was homosexual, this wouldn't be destructive
to the survival of the species?
>>For that matter, in herds of horses, only the dominate stallion mates. When
>>he dies/is killed/whatever, the new dominate stallion is the only one who
>>mates. These seems to be a case of your "natural system of morality" trying
>>to shoot itself in the figurative foot.
>
>Again, the mating practices are something to be reexamined...
The whole "theory" needs to be reexamined...
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8171 | From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Subject: Re: The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum: A Costly and Dangerous Mistake
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 21
In article <SMITH.93Apr21183049@minerva.harvard.edu> Steven Smith writes:
>dgannon@techbook.techbook.com (Dan Gannon) writes:
>> THE U.S. HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM: A COSTLY AND DANGEROUS MISTAKE
>>
>> by Theodore J. O'Keefe
>>
>> [Holocaust revisionism]
>>
>> Theodore J. O'Keefe is an editor with the Institute for Historical
>> Review. Educated at Harvard University . . .
>
>According to the 1990 Harvard Alumni Directory, Mr. O'Keefe failed to
>graduate. You may decide for yourselves if he was indeed educated
>anywhere.
(forgive any inaccuracies, i deleted the original post)
isn't this the same person who wrote the book, and was censured
in canada a few years back?
peg
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8172 | From: scornd7@technet.sg (Tang Chang Thai)
Subject: Re: InterViews graphics package
Nntp-Posting-Host: solomon.technet.sg
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Lines: 9
Rene S. Dutch student (renes@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch) wrote:
: I'm trying out the C++ graphics package InterViews. Besides the man pages
: on the classes, I haven't got any documentation. Is there anything else
: around? Furthermore, can anyone send me a (small!) example program
: which shows how to use these classes together ? I would be very gratefull...
You might want to try comp.windows.interviews.
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8173 | From: europa@eng.umd.edu (Tae Hun Kim)
Subject: NEW Hard Drive SALE!!!
Organization: University of Maryland
Lines: 7
NNTP-Posting-Host: coke.eng.umd.edu
Seagate 1.2GB SCSI hard Drive
Brand NEW with full factory warranty.
5-1/4" FH, 15ms access time, 150,000 MTBF
Only $1100+s/h.
Leave E-mail if interested.
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8174 | From: netops@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Randy King)
Subject: left turn signal won't stop automaticaly
Article-I.D.: tekgen.2408
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.
Lines: 5
The subject says it all. My 1984 Chev S10 Pickup's left turn signal does
not stop after turning. What cause this to stop automaticaly?. Is this
a mechanical problem by the steering wheel?.
NOTE: This truck has an after market steering wheel (GT-Grant) installed.
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8175 | From: gerardis@cs.mcgill.ca (The GIF Emporium)
Subject: Re: 17" Monitors
Organization: School of Computer Science, McGill University
Lines: 27
In article <C5GEH5.n1D@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL) writes:
>Oh yeah, I just read in another newsgroup that the T560i uses a high quality
>Trinitron tube than is in most monitors.(the Sony 1604S for example) and this
>is where the extra cost comes from. It is also where the high bandwidth
>comes from, and the fantastic image, and the large image size, etc, etc...
I agree that the image is as sharp as it gets with these SONY tubes,
however in the 17" monitors using these tubes, the 2 annoying black
lines on the top and bottom quarters of the tube, which are created due
to the wires holding up the Invar Shadow Mask, are quite annoying after
a while. That is the only thing that is making me lean more in favor
of the NEC 5FG (or now also available the NEC 5FGe - only difference,
no ACCUCOLOR ). Any experiences or opinions from people who have used
the NEC 5FG would be appreciated since I want to get one right after
my exams are all done (ie: about a week from now).
-Tony
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gerardis@cs.mcgill.ca | but you're older
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tgerardi@nyx.cs.du.edu | closer to DEATH. -Floyd
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8176 | From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko)
Subject: Re: How to detect use of an illegal cipher?
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Lines: 19
In article <C5nMB1.CoF@news.claremont.edu> ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt) writes:
>
>I probably shouldn't say this, but they could try to detect the use
>of an illegal cypher by transmitting in the clear some statistical
>properties of the plaintext. An old-fashioned wiretap could then
>detect the use of pre-encryption, which would drastically increase
>the measured entropy of the input. A countermeasure to this would
>be to use steganographic techniques which put out voice.
This way to detect pre-encryption may be defeated ; one can do
transformation of the spectrum of encrypted signal just by adding some
pre-arranged (in the beginning of communication) function.
I think so. Say, you can do FFT of your encrypted signal.
Just thinking ...
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8177 | From: elee9sf@menudo.menudo.UH.EDU (Karl Barrus)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: University of Houston
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NNTP-Posting-Host: menudo.uh.edu
In-reply-to: strnlght@netcom.com's message of Sun, 18 Apr 1993 02:41:55 GMT
David Sternlight writes:
> I'd trust something from the NSA long before I'd trust something from
> some Swiss or anbody Japanese.
What??? This is an incredible statement! The NSA tried to suppress
public key crypto and RSA, and yet they claim to encourage use of
strong crypto for US citizens.
Would you trust a black-box from the NSA versus an "open system" from
elsewhere?
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| elee9sf@menudo.uh.edu | <- preferred address
| barrus@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXTMail) |
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| Karl L. Barrus |
| elee9sf@menudo.uh.edu | <- preferred address
| barrus@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXTMail) |
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8178 | From: tjohnson@tazmanian.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Subject: Re: Live Free, but Quietly, or Die
Distribution: The entire Nugent family
Organization: Computervision
Lines: 29
In article <1qc2fu$c1r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>Loud pipes are a biligerent exercise in ego projection,
No arguements following, just the facts.
I was able to avoid an accident by revving my engine and having my
*stock* Harley pipes make enough noise to draw someones attention.
I instinctively revved my engine before I went for my horn. Don't know
why, but I did it and it worked. Thats rather important.
I am not saying "the louder the pipes the better". My Harley is loud
and it gets me noticed on the road for that reason. I personally do
not feel it is to loud. If you do, well thats to bad; welcome to
America - "Home of the Free, Land of the Atlanta Braves".
If you really want a fine tuned machine like our federal government
to get involved and pass Db restrictions; it should be generous
enough so that a move like revving your engine will get you noticed.
Sure there are horns but my hand is already on the throttle. Should we
get into how many feet a bike going 55mph goes in .30 seconds; or
how long it would take me to push my horn button??
And aren't you the guy that doesn't even have a bike???
Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol"
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8179 | From: jsledd@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu (James Sledd)
Subject: intolerance - eternal life - etc
Organization: Social Science Computing
Lines: 89
Hi Xian Netters, God bless you
CONTENTS
1. intro
2. love your neighbor
3. reaction to posts
a. purpose
b. eternal life
I've been reading this news group religiously =) for about a month.
Sometimes It really gives me what I need, spiritually. At other times I
get a little IRATE.
There are all kinds of people in every group and I take offense at
intolerance. It's awfully hard to tolerate such people. =) ( OOPS! I've
gone over my smiley quota already and it's only the second paragraph =(.
IMHO they should follow the commandment to love thy neighbor and leave
the judging up to GOD.
SPECIFICALLY:
one's sexual orientation is part of one's self
love the sinner hate the sin DOES NOT APPLY
Pay attention fundaligionists. Love your neighbor wether you like it
or not. I'd be happy to get flamed endlessly and loose scripture
quotation contests galore to defend this point. I beleive this is
correct.
BTW Love the sinner hate the sin is a slippery slope, with hatred at the
bottom.
INCREDIBLY CHOPPED UP POST
I won't even try to tell you where the deletions came out
> means Jayne
>> means Dan Johnson
>>> means Eric
In article 28388@athos.rutgers.edu, jayne@mmalt.guild.org
(Jayne Kulikauskas) writes:
>gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric Molas) writes:
>No free gifts of meaning. (I never quite understood how any
>God can just "give" your life meaning, actually. If he
>says you exists to do or be X, that gives you a purpose
>if you care to accept it, but is that the same thing? But
>I digress...)
I find that I am dissatisfied with the little purposes that we can
manufacture for ourselves. Little in the cosmic sense. Even the
greatest of the great pharos are long gone, the pyramids historical
oddities being worn down by the wind, eventually to be turned into dust.
Mankind itself will one day perish. Without some interconnectedness
that transcends the physical, without God, it is all pointless in the
end. Most people are able to live with that, and for them little
purposes (success, money, power, effecting change, helping others)
suffice. I suppose they never think about the cosmic scale, or are at
least able to put it out of their minds.
To me, it is comforting to know that reality is an illusion. That the
true reality underneath the the physical is spirit. That this world is
a school of sorts, where we learn and grow, and our souls mature. That
gives a purpose to my little purposes, and takes some of the pressure
off. It's not so necessary to make this life a success in human terms
if you're really just here to learn. It's more important to progress,
grow, persist, to learn to love yourself and others and to express your
love, especially when it's dificult to do so. Honest effort is rewarded
by God, he knows our limitations.
>> I will live forever with God.
>
>Ah, now here we begin to diverge. I will not live forever
>with anyone.
>
>(I don't think you will either, but you are welcome to your
>opinion on the matter.)
Interesting theological question. I have a feeling that most common
perception of eternal life is WAY off base. If I were to be imprisoned
in the limited ego/mind I am in now I doubt I would choose imortality.
It would get awfully boring.
TWO SERIOUS QUESTIONS/INVITATIONS TO DISCUSSION
1. What is the nature of eternal life?
2. How can we as mortals locked into space time conceive of it?
Possible answer for #2: The best we can do is Metaphor/Analogy
Question 2A What is the best metaphor?
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8180 | From: ingo@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (Electroholic)
Subject: Re: Hockey & Hispanic market
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Lines: 34
In article <115868@bu.edu> icop@csa.bu.edu (Antonio Pera) writes:
>
>In article <saross01.734885336@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>, saross01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Stacey A. Ross) writes:
>|> In <C5I2s2.3Bt@odin.corp.sgi.com> rickc@wrigley.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares) writes:
>|> >You'll have a hard time selling any sport to a community that
>|> >can't play it on account of availability or financial reasons.
>|> >Hockey is pretty much a sport for the white and well off.
>
>What is this crap? I'm only interested in intelligent discussion. If you
>can't answer my question, just say so. Can anyone else answer the ques.?
>
It's not really crap you know... only half crap ;-) From what i
understand it's very expensive to play hockey south of the border...
(actually it's not that cheap up hear either... though once you have all the
equipement it's not more than $300 a year... actually i haven' played in
about 8 years so i could be off a bit... ) In the states, where ice time
is considerably more expensive it can cost over a thousand a year... compare
this to baseball and you'll see that hockey is a sport for the well-to-do...
And this brings up the fact that the well-to-do in the US are majority white...
BTW: what was the original question... i think it has to do with the Hispanic
communtiy and playing hockey....
Cheers!
i.
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| ingo@sunee.uwaterloo.ca | The more violent the body |
| iwweigel@descartes.uwaterloo.ca | contact of the sports you |
| ingo@electrical.watstar.uwaterloo.ca | watch, the lower your class. |
| iwweigele@electrical.watstar.uwaterloo.ca | -- Paul Fussell |
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If the University of Waterloo had on opinion, this probably wouldn't be it...
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8181 | From: caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Germano Caronni)
Subject: Re: More technical details
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Lines: 107
In article <1993Apr19.134346.2620@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
>Here are some corrections and additions to Hellman's note, courtesy of
>Dorothy Denning. Again, this is reposted with permission.
>
>Two requests -- first, note the roles of S1 and S2. It appears to me
>and others that anyone who knows those values can construct the unit
>key. And the nature of the generation process for K1 and K2 is such
>that neither can be produced alone. Thus, the scheme cannot be
>implemented such that one repository generates the first half-key, and
>another generates the second. *That* is ominous.
>
>Second -- these postings are not revealed scripture, nor are they
>carefully-crafted spook postings. Don't attempt to draw out hidden
>meanings (as opposed to, say, the official announcements of Clipper).
>Leave Denning out of this; given Hellman's record of opposition to DES,
>which goes back before some folks on this newsgroup knew how to read, I
>don't think you can impugn his integrity.
>
>Oh yeah -- the folks who invented Clipper aren't stupid. If you think
>something doesn't make sense, it's almost certainly because you don't
>understand their goals.
>
This is an addition (posted with permission) to some tech. details of
cliper. They enligthen ??? the use of S1 and S2 for keygeneration.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 08:51:57 EDT
From: denning@cs.cosc.georgetown.edu (Dorothy Denning)
Subject: Re: Clipper Chip
I just had another conversation with NSA to clarify some of the features
of Clipper. Please feel free to distribute this and my other messages
on Clipper.
The name of the encryption algorithm is "Skipjack."
Martin Hellman had written
and the serial number of the unit added to produce a three part
message which will then be encrypted under the system key SK
producing
E{ E[M; K], E[K; UK], serial number; SK}
To which I responded:
My understanding is that E[M; K] is not encrypted under SK (called the
"family key") and that the decrypt key corresponding to SK is held by
law enforcement. Does anyone have first hand knowledge on this?
I was correct in that E[M; K] is not encrypted under SK. However, Skipjack
being a single-key system, there is, of course, not a separate decrypt key
for the family key SK.
The unit key, also called the "chip key," is generated from the
serial number N as follows. Let N1, N2, and N3 be 64 bit blocks
derived from N, and let S1 and S2 be two 80-bit seeds used as keys.
Compute the 64-bit block
R1 = E[D[E[N1; S1]; S2]; S1]
(Note that this is like using the DES in triple encryption mode with
two keys.) Similarly compute blocks R2 and R3 starting with N2 and N3.
(I'm unlear about whether the keys S1 and S2 change. The fact that
they're called seeds suggests they might.) Then R1, R2, and R3 are
concatenated together giving 192 bits. The first 80 bits form K1 and
the next 80 bits form K2. The remaining bits are discarded.
The seeds S1 and S2 do not change. The whole process is performed on
a laptop computer, and S1 and S2 are supplied by two independent people
so that no one person knows both. The same S1 and S2 are used during
an entire "programming session" to generate keys for a stream of serial
numbers. Everything is discarded at the end (the computer could be
thrown out if desired).
The serial number is 30 bits and the values N1, N2, and N3 are formed
by padding the serial number with fixed 34-bit blocks (separate padding
for each value).
The resulting keys K1 and K2 are output onto separate floppy disks, paired
up with their serial number. Each pair is stored in a separate file. The
floppy disks are taken away by two separate people on behalf of the two
escrow agencies.
Dorothy Denning
denning@cs.georgetown.edu
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I am sure more technical detail will be known when time goes by.
Please remark, that in posting this, I do not automatically agree
with it's contents and implications. So don't swamp my mailbox :-)
I just think this is an valuable addition to the less than technical
discussion that is rising here. And, no, I don't mind if you call
S1 and S2 'backdoor', as I could imagine the key-generation process
working without these seeds and the dependency of K1,K2 from the
Serial-Number.
Friendly greetings,
Germano Caronni
--
Instruments register only through things they're designed to register.
Space still contains infinite unknowns.
PGP-Key-ID:341027
Germano Caronni caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch FD560CCF586F3DA747EA3C94DD01720F
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8182 | From: steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: PHILS, NL EAST NOT SO WEAK
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Lines: 10
In <1993Apr15.214133.3371@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> apanjabi@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
[...]
>BRAVES HIT LIKE A AAA CLUB
Shouldn't this read "Braves Hitters are at the AAA Club?"
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic
"It is considered good to look wise, especially when not
overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
|
8183 | From: etxmow@garbo.ericsson.se (Mats Winberg)
Subject: Re: HELP for Kidney Stones ..............
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Isn't there a relatively new treatment for kidney stones involving
a non-invasive use of ultra-sound where the patient is lowered
into some sort of liquid when he/she undergoes treatment? I'm sure
I've read about it somewhere. If I remember it correctly it is a
painless and effective treatment.
A couple of weeks ago I visited a hospital here in Stockholm and
saw big signs showing the way to the "Kidney stone chrusher" ...
Mats Winberg
Stockholm, Sweden
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8184 | From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr)
Subject: Re: *** The list of Biblical contradictions
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 14
In article <bskendigC51CqB.K0r@netcom.com> bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
>Specifically: when I bring up the fact that Genesis contains two
>contradictory creation stories, I usually get blank stares or flat
>denials. I've never had a fundamentalist acknowledge that there are
>indeed two different accounts of creation.
That is because two creation stories is one of the worst examples of
a difficulty with the Bible. "were formed" can also be translated "had been
formed" in chapter two without any problems. So the text does not demand
that there are two creation stories.
Link Hudson.
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8185 | From: sherry@a.cs.okstate.edu (SHERRY ROBERT MICH)
Subject: Re: .SCF files, help needed
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Lines: 27
From article <1993Apr21.013846.1374@cx5.com>, by tlc@cx5.com:
>
>
> I've got an old demo disk that I need to view. It was made using RIX Softworks.
> The files on the two diskette set end with: .scf
>
> The demo was VGA resolution (256 colors), but I don't know the spatial
> resolution.
>
According to my ColoRIX manual .SCF files are 640x480x256
> First problem: When I try to run the demo, the screen has two black bars that
> cut across (horizontally) the screen, in the top third and bottom third of the
> screen. The bars are about 1-inch wide. Other than this, the demo (the
> animation part) seems to be running fine.
>
> Second problem: I can't find any graphics program that will open and display
> these files. I have a couple of image conversion programs, none mention .scf
> files.
>
You may try VPIC, I think it handles the 256 color RIX files OK..
Rob Sherry
sherry@a.cs.okstate.edu
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8186 | From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: Re: Seventh Century A.D. Armenian Math Problems
Summary: Mr. Koc wins a free prize!
Keywords: philosophy, Greece, Persians, math
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Lines: 43
In article <1r6qn1INNd0n@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> koc@rize.ECE.ORST.EDU (Cetin Kaya
Koc) responded to article <1993Apr22.152937.14766@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.
sdpa.org (David Davidian) who wrote:
[DD] Problem 1
[DD]
[DD] My father told me the following story. During the famous wars between the
[DD] Armenians and the Persians, prince Zaurak Kamsarakan performed
[DD] extraordinary heroic deeds. Three times in a single month he attacked the
[DD] Persian troops. The first time, he struck down half of the Persian army.
[DD] The second time, pursuing the Persians, he slaughtered one fourth of the
[DD] soldiers. The third time, he destroyed one eleventh of the Persian army.
[DD] The Persians who were still alive, numbering two hundred eighty, fled to
[DD] Nakhichevan. And so, from this remainder, find how many Persian soldiers
[DD] there were before the massacre.
[Koc] Answer: a(1-1/2-1/4-1/11)=280 -> a = 1760
Good for you! You win the prize -- a free trip to Karabakh as an Azeri
soldier! Now, calculate the odds of you coming back after trying to de-populate
the area of Armenians!
[Koc] Corollary: Armenians strike, slaughter, destroy, and massacre. After
[Koc] all, they are not as innocent as the asala network claims.
Fact: I didn't notice any mention of Turks in Shirak, Van, or Trebizon in
this seventh century story!
Fact: These places were filled with Armenians as of 1915.
Fact: By the end of 1916, after the Turkish genocide of the Armenians, there
were no Armenians left in Shirak, Van, or Trebizon -- only Turks and
Kurds! In fact, there were no Pontus Greeks left alive in Trebizon
either!
Conclusion: Numbers don't lie in either case!
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
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8187 | From: cathy@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Cathy Smith)
Subject: Reminder -- Denver Rally Tomorrow
Distribution: usa
Nntp-Posting-Host: blanca.lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
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*****************************************************************
* *
* MONSTER RALLY!! *
* == For the Right to Own and Carry Weapons == *
* *
* TOMORROW, Sunday, April 18, 1993, from 1:00 to 3:30 p.m., *
* the Denver LIBERTARIAN PARTY will sponsor a rally *
* AT THE STATE CAPITOL in support of *
* the individual right to own and carry weapons. *
* *
* Speakers will include former Colorado deputy attorney general *
* DAVID KOPEL, radio host KEN HAMBLIN, DLP Chair DAVID SEGAL, *
* pistol instructor LENDA JACKSON, and novelist L. NEIL SMITH. *
* *
* Your presence and participation are highly welcome. For more *
* information call David Segal at (303) 296-4059. *
* *
*****************************************************************
Cathy Smith
My opinions are, of course, my own.
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8188 | From: msunde01@mik.uky.edu (Mark Underwood)
Subject: Re: help - how to construct home-built battery for 3rd grade sci report
Nntp-Posting-Host: nx26.mik.uky.edu
Reply-To: msunde01@mik.uky.edu
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Distribution: usa
Lines: 29
In article <C5quI4.4CF@spk.hp.com> borowski@spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski)
writes:
> Dean Anneser (anneser@pwa-b.uucp) wrote:
> : My 9 yr old son has signed up to do a science report on batteries. I
was
> : wondering if anyone could provide me with some information as to how
to
> : construct a home-built battery. In my grade school days, I remember
(snip!)
I haven't been following this, so I'm sorry if somebody already mentioned
this, but you could grab a lemon (I think potatoes work too, but I'm not
sure), a strip of copper, and a strip of zinc (I think you can get the
metal in a hardware store or hobby shop, maybe??). Stick the strips in
the lemon (so they don't touch!) and you'll get a measurable voltage (not
a lot, but, hey, it's a lemon :-) ). As I recall we had to hook
something like ten of these things to get an appreciable amount of
current, because of the mondo internal resistance, but if you just need a
demo you might get it to run a tiny fan or something! :-)
Mark S. Underwood
EE Student, University of Kentucky
Lab Assistant, Boyd Hall Microlab
(a tiny little division of UK Library Microlabs)
E-Mail: msunde01@mik.uky.edu
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8189 | From: pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: Hitler - pagan or Christian? (Was: Martin Luther...)
<93074.033230KEVXU@CUNYVM.BITNET> <9c9e02703ak901@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Lines: 10
In article <9c9e02703ak901@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
czl30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee) writes:
>In article <93074.033230KEVXU@CUNYVM.BITNET> KEVXU@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>>The Irish have their version of the swastica called St. Brigid's cross.
>There's also the three-legged symbol of the Isle of Man.
The three-legged symbol is a bit different, there is a word for them but
I can't recall it, tri something, trieskalon?, don't know. These have
more to do with the triple goddess in her three phases as reflected in
females: girl-woman-crone.
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8190 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: While Armenians destroyed all the villages from Trabzon to Erzurum...
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 55
In article <1993Apr4.231353.34562@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF) writes:
><disclaimer: If there is anybody on USENET dumb enough to interpret
>this posting as a serious and meaningful one, I want to assure this
>entity that it was but a joke>
Still yelling at the telephone and the lawn mower? People will think
you're just some looney howling in the wires. Now any comment?
Source: Documents: Volume I (1919).
"Document No: 76," Archive No: 1/2, Cabin No: 109, Drawer
No: 3, File No: 346, Section No: 427(1385), Contents No: 3, 52-53.
(To Lt. Colonel Seyfi, General Headquarters, Second Section,
Istanbul - Dr. Stephan Eshnanie)
'Neues Wiener Tagblatt' - Vienna, 'Pester Lloyd' 'Local Anzliger' - Berlin,
'Algemeen Handelsblat' - Amsterdam, 'Vakit' - Istanbul.
"I have been closely following for two weeks the withdrawal of Russians and
Armenians from Turkish territories through Armenia. Although two months
have elapsed since the clearing of the territories of Armenian gangs, I
have been observing the evidence of the cruelties of the Armenians at
almost every step. All the villages from Trabzon to Erzincan and from
Erzincan to Erzurum are destroyed. Corpses of Turks brutally and cruelly
slain are everywhere. According to accounts by those who were able to
save their lives by escaping to mountains, the first horrible and fearful
events begun when the Russian forces evacuated the places which were then
taken over by Armenian gangs. The Russians usually treated the people
well, but the people feared the intervention of the Armenians. Once these
places had been taken over by the Armenians, however, the massacres begun.
They clearly announced their intention of clearing what they called the
Armenian and Kurdish land from the Turks and thus, solve the nationality
problem. Today I had the opportunity to meet Austrian and German soldiers
who had escaped from Russian prison camps and come from Kars and
Alexander Paul (Gumru-Leninakan)...Russian officers tried to save the
Turks and there were clashes between Russian officers and Armenian gangs.
I am now in Erzurum, and what I see is terrible. Almost the whole city is
destroyed. The smell of the corpses still fills the air. Although there are
speculations that Armenian gangs murdered Austrian and German prisoners as
well, I could not get the supporting evidence in this regard, but there is
proof of murdering of Turkish prisoners of war."
Dr. Stephan Eshnanie
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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8191 | From: seanna@bnr.ca (Seanna (S.M.) Watson)
Subject: Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart..."
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Lines: 48
In article <Apr.14.03.07.38.1993.5420@athos.rutgers.edu> johnsd2@rpi.edu writes:
>In article 28388@athos.rutgers.edu, jayne@mmalt.guild.org (Jayne Kulikauskas) writes:
>
>> Drugs are a replacement for Christ.
>>Those who have an empty spot in the God-shaped hole in their hearts must
>>do something to ease the pain.
>
>I have heard this claim quite a few times. Does anybody here know
>who first came up with the "God-shaped hole" business?
>
>> This is why the most effective
>>substance-abuse recovery programs involve meeting peoples' spiritual
>>needs.
>
>You might want to provide some evidence next time you make a claim
>like this.
>
In 12-step programs (like Alcoholics Anonymous), one of the steps
involves acknowleding a "higher power". AA and other 12-step abuse-
recovery programs are acknowledged as being among the most effective.
Unfortunately, as evidence for God, this can be dismissed by stating
that the same defect of personality makes substance abusers as makes
people 'religious', and the debunker could perhaps acknowledge that
being religious is a better crutch than being a drug addict, but
still maintain that both are escapism. (And I suspect that there
are some atheists who would find the substance abuse preferable to
Christianity.)
I think that an essential problem with communication between Christ-
ians and atheists is that as Christians we necessarily see ourselves
as incomplete, and needing God (the 'God-shaped hole'), while atheists
necessarily see themselves as self-sufficient. If the atheists are
right, Christians are guilty of being morally weak, and too cowardly
to stand up for themselves; if the Christians are right, the atheists
are guilty of considerable arrogance. (I use the term atheist to
refer to a person who has a definite conviction that there is no God,
as opposed to one who does not know and/or does not care about God.)
==
Seanna Watson Bell-Northern Research, | Pray that at the end of living,
(seanna@bnr.ca) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | Of philosophies and creeds,
| God will find his people busy
Opinion, what opinions? Oh *these* opinions. | Planting trees and sowing seeds.
No, they're not BNR's, they're mine. |
I knew I'd left them somewhere. | --Fred Kaan
(let's see...I spelled 'sowing' right; I got the author's name right--maybe
my 3rd iteration .sig will be a keeper.)
|
8192 | From: chris@alien.saar.de (Christian Reisel)
Distribution: world
Organization: Chaos live
Subject: Re: What do Nuclear Site's Cooling Towers do?
Reply-To: chris@alien.saar.de
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In <C5L5x0.KJ7@vcd.hp.com>, John Eaton writes:
[...]
>During the nuclear fission reaction the uranium fuel can get hot enough
>to melt. When this happens the liquid uranium is pumped to the cooling
>tower where it is sprayed into the air. Contact with the cool outside air
>will condense the mist and it will fall back to the cooling tower floor.
>There it is collected by a cleaning crew using shop vacs and is then
>reformed into pellets for reactor use the next day.
>
>Cooling towers are a lot taller than they really need to be. Power companies
>are forced to make them that tall by some enviromental law that requires the
>raw uranium emisions to be held to under 1%. This law is now under attack
>by lawyers arguing that the 1% should be measured at the edge of the property
>rather than the edge of the cooling tower. Eliminating this law will save
>power companies thousands of dollars in concrete costs for new nukes.
>
>John Eaton
>!hp-vcd!johne
>
I think you posted your article 15 days too late :-)) April 1st is over.
I don't like nuclear powerplants but i think it's not fair to tell such
"storys" about them. OK ?
Let me try to explain what that tower is used to:
-1st. Even the modernst nuclear powerplant is only a simple steam-engine.
It has an hightech "boiler" but the rest is still verry verry
conventional. And if you've already visited any condensation-
powerstation you'l have seen the cooling towers too.
If you look at any good book about thermophysics you'll find
a chapter about the "CARNOT-process" which describes how to
get energy from a temperature difference ! And that is the reason
for cooling towers too !!! You only can get energy if you've an
temperature gradient. That means that you have steam on the one
side and need to cool down the steam 'till you get water
again on the other side if you want to get aprox. 30% of the
energy you (or better the uranium) brought into the water to
let it boil. If you only have hot steam on the one and "cold"
steam on the other side you'll loose much more of the energy.
And so they cool down the steam to get at least the 30% of
energy that carnot will give them.
The cooling towers are for cooling the steam !
The vapor you'll see is NOT the steam of the main core circulation,
because that steam is radioactive ! The circulation is divided in
AT LEAST 2 circuits connected about heat exchangers to prevent
radioactive pollution of the environment !
-2nd. OK, the main core IS hot, but even in the modernst HighTemperature-
Reactors (HTR) they only run at ~800 deg celsius. This is still
verry far away from uraniums melting point which is somewhere
around 2000 deg. celsius ! But you'll have lot's of problems with
the boiler's steel. That's because at this temperature the
metal is attacked by steam and will corrode verry fast.
This is only for BWR's. The new He cooled reactors have temperatures
up to 1200 deg. celsius. But this is only experimental.
-3rd. I personaly think that nuclear waste should be as low as ever
possible because the dose you get will accumulate about the
years. Today 1 mRem and next year 0.5 mRem won't be 0.75 mRem
at all. It accumulates and even in 80 years you'll still have
1.5 mRem. And i'm not interested in glowing in the night and
getting children with 2 heads. This is my point of view.
Only my 0.02$ !
Christian Reisel
student of electronic sciences
--
Christian Reisel, Goldammerweg 2, W-6601 Buebingen, Germany
Voice +49 6805 22179 Fax & Email +49 6805 22179
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8193 | From: eng10205@nusunix1.nus.sg (LING SIEW WEE)
Subject: ONLINE BIBLE as bible study
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Hello, I am about to embark on a bible study on ACTS. I have online
bible software with me. I would like to know the the background of the
authors of its various topics articles and about the author of the
People's New Testament. I need to know how realible is the articles in
the Online Bible software. Specifically (for your convenience) I want to
know about the :
1. Darby Translation ( I have never heard of this one)
2. Young's Literal Translation (I have also never heard
of)
3. The realiability of the Hebrew/Greek Lexicon
4. The authors (from which denomination etc) of the
articles in the TOPICS modules.
5. The realiability of the Treasury of Scripture
Knowlege ( as I have never heard of too)
6. Who are the commentators, Scofield and B.W. Johnson
who wrote the Scofield Reference Bible and the People's New Testament respectively
7. The realiability of the Strong numbers.
I will be most happy to receive a reply of any of you who knows about
the above. Also, please 'qualify' yourself so that I may know that I am
not receiving a 'rubbish' letter. I just want to make sure.
Wilfred Ling
--
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*Name : Wilfred Ling Siew Wee | National University of S'pore *
*Internet : eng10205@nusunix.nus.sg | Electrical Engineering *
*Bitnet : eng10205@nusvm.bitnet | *
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8194 | From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: Quick easy question!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Lines: 14
Here's an easy question for someone who knows nothing about baseball...
What city do the California Angels play out of?
--
Richard J. Rauser "You have no idea what you're doing."
rauser@sfu.ca "Oh, don't worry about that. We're professional
WNI outlaws - we do this for a living."
-----------------
"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." -Dr.Banzai
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8195 | From: hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: URGENT **** TED FRANK WANTED FOR KILLING AJ TEEL...
Lines: 181
Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: DESYDeutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
In article <1993Apr12.031404.25988@eff.org>, mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin) writes:
|>In article <C5Bvqy.FLD@dscomsa.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
|>
|>>|>But punishing the person for posting such a thing smacks of
|>>|>authoritarianism.
|>>
|>>It's a deliberate act of fraud intended to cause harm.
|>
|>You seem to be unclear about the legal meaning of "fraud." Mere
|>misrepresentation is not fraud.
Your comment here is meant as a put down. It fails for several reasons :
1) You have edited out the context of the action under discussion.
2) I never brought the legal definition up. I use the English language
and not the legal dialect. The legal definition of fraud changes from
one country to another in any case. The context of the discussion is morality
of censorship.
|>>|>How does a posting from your site do any such thing? Especially if your
|>>|>site is a university? Do you know any person who believes that a
|>>|>university endorses every comment made from a university site?
|>>
|>>That is why I refered specifically to a company.
|>
|>Good. Now, do you know any person who believes that a company endorses
|>every comment made from a university site?
You are extrapolating from the statement I made concerning a circumstance
in which such an act of censorship would be permissable to the Teel case.
If you had bothered to read the post instead of trying to prove how stupid you
thought me you would have done rather better. The mode of argument I was using
was a form of rhetoric. Argument by example, I describe a wide set of
circumstances in which an action is permisable and demonstrate that they
do not apply, thus the action is not permisable.
Obviously a company posting from a University adress would be squashed, it
would be contrary to the internet comercial use.
|>>|>Usenet does not distribute letterhead.
|>>
|>>Organization: DESYDeutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
|>
|>I suggest strongly that if you mean for this to be taken as letterhead you
|>get a better stationery designer.
Now you are clutching at straws. In the context of the discussion it was
the fact of association between the company and the post that was important.
The typeface etc is inconsequential.
|>>There are people on the net who are openly supporting the murder of members
|>>of my family.
|>
|>Sigh.
If you are implying that I am lying I suggest you read Mark Holohan and Ulick
Staffords posts into soc.culture.british. If you are suggesting that
advocating murder is a trivial matter I would prefer that you state it
directly.
Certainly I oppose the right of Dr Sidiqui and the Ayatolah Khomenhi to
call for the murder of Salman Rushdie. Incitement to murder is not part
of what I consider legitimate freedom of speech.
|>>|>As for your notion that employees can argue their different political
|>>|>views "at their own expense," could you explain precisely what "expense"
|>>|>you're talking about?
|>>
|>>Internet is not free. The connection charges are quite expensive for comercial
|>>concerns.
|>
|>Could you give me a cost breakdown for the expense to your company
|>attributable to an employee's posting a political view in disagreement
|>with yours? Numbers, please.
That is irrelevant, the case is not the incremental cost but the facility
cost. If I decide that a company I am associated with should subscribe
to USEnet that usenet connection is the property of the company. It is
quite legitimate for a company to have a political or other agenda and
regulate the use of its property in accordance with its policy. For example
if a Microsoft employee were to post "Windows NT is crap don't buy it"
from a Microsoft machine I would consider it reasonable for Microsoft to
sack that employee. In the same way if a company decides that it has
political objectives it might wish to regulate postings in a political
manner. This is no worse than Rupert Murdoch using his papers as a political
platform for his views.
|>>I was refering to the arrogance of your position, quoting the words written
|>>by slave owners at me in the cause of freedom.
|>
|>Which words written by slave owners did I quote? I don't recall quoting
|>anyone.
ah yes you did not quote them, merely refered to them.
|>>Your constitution is not
|>>considered sacrosanct in other parts of the globe.
|>
|>Nor have I assumed it is. I don't consider the First Amendment to have
|>talismanic value.
|>
|>>You might just as well have attempted to argue from the King James bible
|>>to a Muslim. I was pointing out that your reasoning is parochial when with
|>>little effort you could have made a substantive point.
|>
|>I made the effort; apparently you made a certain effort to misunderstand
|>me.
Your article consisted of a reference to the first ammendment, your signature
and pretty well damn all else.
|>>|>For an example of a UK publication that understands this, try INDEX ON
|>>|>CENSORSHIP.
|>>
|>>I used to subscribe, I would still if I was not moving.
|>
|>INDEX regularly publishes opinions by non-Americans who believe the First
|>Amendment represents appropriate free-speech principles for all open
|>societies. See, e.g., the opinions of the dissenting law lords in the
|>SPYCATCHER case.
Are you refering to the initial hearings on an injunction or the judgments
on the substantive case?
The initial hearings that the government won were judged on the not unresonable
judgment that assertion by the government that the national interest might be
harmed would be grounds for prior restraint. The second set of hearings on the
substance judged that the government had no case and that the official secrets
act could not be used to suppress information in thwe public domain already.
The part that they won was over the copyright issue which is rather separate.
Here again the issue of censorship is rather different in the case that
information is divulged on the understanding that it will not be communicated
to third parties. The first ammendment certainly does not apply in this
case as the numerous prosecutions of spies in the US proves.
The crux of the Spycatcher affair was extrateritoriality of British law.
The censorship aspect of it arose as a result of the government's
ludicrous attempts to prevent summary of the case in the book.
|>>|>You haven't any reason to believe that anything I've said has been reached
|>>|>unquestioningly.
|>>
|>>Only most of what you write.
|>
|>For someone who purports to be opposed to argument from assertion, you
|>certainly get by on assertions a lot.
Funny I saw that as a rejection of an assertion that you had made. Of course in
rejecting an assertion I have to make a contrary assertion, since this assertion
is unprovable I left it at that.
So far I have not seen you demonstrate a command of the contrary opinion to your
own. You are attacking my anti-censorship view because I dare to accept the
validity of some pro-censorship arguments while rejecting their conclusions.
Plus I am not an absolutist. I have this funny idea that the solution to this
problem was not decided in 1789 by a group of white male gentry in secret
session and sumarized in a single line. Furthermore I don't think that the
issues are half as simple as you imply.
|>>You may think that I am being anti-American in disallowing recourse to the
|>>first ammendment. It's just that this argument has no currency in the parts
|>>of the world where there is state censorship such as Iran, Kewait and Israel.
|>
|>I don't pretend to have geared my discourse for all conceivable audiences.
I don't think that you have geered your discourse to any audience save that
of proving that you are the only person wearing a white hat.
Phill Hallam-Baker
|
8196 | From: markp@elvis.wri.com (Mark Pundurs)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Nntp-Posting-Host: elvis.wri.com
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Lines: 22
In <30136@ursa.bear.com> halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes:
>In article <1qjd3o$nlv@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>>Firstly, science has its basis in values, not the other way round.
>>So you better explain what objective atoms are, and how we get them
>>from subjective values, before we go any further.
>Atoms are not objective. They aren't even real. What scientists call
>an atom is nothing more than a mathematical model that describes
>certain physical, observable properties of our surroundings. All
>of which is subjective.
Omigod, it's an operationalist! Sorry, Jim, but the idea that a theory
explaining a myriad of distinctly different observations is merely a
"model" is more than sensible people can accept -- your phobia about
objective reality notwithstanding.
--
Mark Pundurs
any resemblance between my opinions and those
of Wolfram Research, Inc. is purely coincidental
|
8197 | From: daveb@pogo.wv.tek.com (Dave Butler)
Subject: Re: NEW BIBLICAL CONTRADICTIONS [Fallaciously] ANSWERED (Judas)
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville, OR.
Lines: 82
I produced an error last week about CHORION:
>> (By the way Mr DeCenso, you really should have looked in the index of your
>> Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich Greek lexicon. You would have found that the word in
>> Acts for "lot" is "kleros," not "CHORION" as stated by Mr Archer, and nowhere
>> in the very large discussion of kleros in done the to "Theological Dictionary
>> of the New Testament" by Bromley, is the meaning "burial plot" discussed. It
>> discusses the forms of "kleros" (eg: kleros, kleroo, etc), and the various
>> meanings of "kleros" (eg: "plot of land," and "inheritance"), but mentions
>> nothing about CHORION or "burial plot." (Why does this not surprise me?) Thus
>> it would seem to be a very good thing you dumped Archer as a reference).
>
> I was wrong. I admit that I do not have a handle on Greek grammar, and thus
> confused "kleros", the second to last word in Acts 1:17 as being the plot of
> land discussed. In actuality it is "chorion", which is the last word Acts
> 1:18. Unfortunately my Greek dictionary does not discuss "chorion" so I
> cannot report as to the nuances of the word.
I abhor publishing trash (I abhor it of myself even more than I do from
others, but since I do not present myself as an authority on the subject, I do
not feel dishonest, though I do openly admit ignorance and incompetence in
this example). Thus I felt honor bound to do a better set of research
specifically on the word. First it should be noted that Greek grammar is not
as tough as I first assumed (it is not nontrivial by any means, and I still am
not competent with it, but it is not as opaque as I had thought). It turns
out that while the Index for the Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich "Greek Lexicon" renders
each verse in order, each word within a verse is put in greek alphabetical
order. Thus while the the meaning of the verse is decipherable, the syntax is
far from clear. On the other hand, a Greek-English Intralinear Bible makes
things a lot more comprehendable. And yes, the word for field in Acts 1:18 is
indeed "chorion."
Now I've checked several Greek-English lexicons:
"Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament," Louw and Nida
"Robinson's Greek and English Lexicon of the New Testament"
"Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament," Grimm
"Word study Concordance," Tynsdale
"A Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament and other
early Christian Writings," Bauer-Arndt-Gingrich
"The New Analytical Greek Lexicon," Perschbacher
In each case the meaning of the word Chorion was given variously as:
A space, place, region, district, field, area, "country place,"
land, farm, estate, "a bit of tillage", and similar meanings.
Nowhere do any of these books mention anything about "grave." As some of these
books go into great detail, I would be very surprised to find that these books
are all inadequate and Mr Archer is the only competent scholar in Greek. I
think it more likely that Mr Archer's investigations into "contradictions" to
be once again, as your friend said it, "lacking in substance," and thus Archer
is again shown worthless as an expert witness (By the way Mr DeCenso, I would
have honorably presented my results on this matter, even if I had found them
to support Mr Archer's contentions).
By the way, among these lexicons, (eg: Robinson's) is the definition of
"agros," the word used in Matthew 27 to describe the field bought. The word
"agros" is defined as "a field in the country." Chorion is specifically noted
as a synonym to agros. This is significant, as it is evidence of how silly
Bullinger's exegisis was, which stated that the word for "field" in Matthew
(ie: agros) is different from the word for "field" in Acts (ie: chorion), and
thus we must be talking about two different fields (Of course you already
admit how stupid Bullinger's exegisis is, but this was a small serendipity
which drives the point home).
So as of now, unless Mr DeCenso show compelling reasons to believe otherwise
(eg: a reputable scholar with reputable references), I consider this
particular issue closed. See Mr DeCenso, now you can go on to answer
questions about the denials of Peter, the day of the Crucifixion, Tyre, and
the fact that the author of Matthew quoted from the wrong prophet in
discussing the "Potter's Field."
Later,
Dave Butler
Precise knowledge is the only true knowledge, and he who does not teach
exactly, does not teach at all.
Henry Ward Beecher
American Clergyman
as recorded by George Seldes
|
8198 | From: mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate)
Subject: Re: A Little Too Satanic
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Lines: 43
Jon Livesey writes:
>So why do I read in the papers that the Qumram texts had "different
>versions" of some OT texts. Did I misunderstand?
Reading newspapers to learn about this kind of stuff is not the best idea in
the world. Newspaper reporters are notoriously ignorant on the subject of
religion, and are prone to exaggeration in the interests of having a "real"
story (that is, a bigger headline).
Let's back up to 1935. At this point, we have the Masoretic text, the
various targums (translations/commentaries in aramaic, etc.), and the
Septuagint, the ancient greek translation. The Masoretic text is the
standard Jewish text and essentially does not vary. In some places it has
obvious corruptions, all of which are copied faithfully from copy to copy.
These passages in the past were interpreted by reference to the targums and
to the Septuagint.
Now, the septuagint differs from the masoretic text in two particulars:
first, it includes additional texts, and second, in some passages there are
variant readings from the masoretic text (in addition to "fixing"/predating
the various corrupted passages). It must be emphasized that, to the best of
my knowledge, these variations are only signifcant to bible scholars, and
have little theological import.
The dead sea scroll materials add to this an ancient *copy* of almost all of
Isaiah and fragments of various sizes of almost all other OT books. There
is also an abundance of other material, but as far as I know, there is no
sign there of any hebrew antecdent to the apocrypha (the extra texts in the
septuagint). As far as analysis has proceeded, there are also variations
between the DSS texts and the masoretic versions. These tend to reflect the
septuagint, where the latter isn't obviously in error. Again, though, the
differences (thus far) are not significant theologically. There is this big
expectation that there are great theological surprises lurking in the
material, but so far this hasn't happened.
The DSS *are* important because there is almost no textual tradition in the
OT, unlike for the NT.
--
C. Wingate + "The peace of God, it is no peace,
+ but strife closed in the sod.
mangoe@cs.umd.edu + Yet, brothers, pray for but one thing:
tove!mangoe + the marv'lous peace of God."
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8199 | From: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com (Dave Medin)
Subject: Re: Police radar....Just how does it work??
Reply-To: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL
Lines: 35
In article <1993Apr2.182216.28603@walter.bellcore.com>, deaddio@ski.bellcore.com (Michael DeAddio) writes:
|> |> Question 2:
|> |>
|> |> If I am right about the doppler(if I spell it different every time,
|> |> maybe one will be right) effect, how does the radar get an accurate reading
|> |> when the car containing it is moving?? It would seem to me ( for all thats
|> |> worth) that it would need to be calibrated with the speedometer of the car
|> |> containing it?? I am fairly sure this isn't the case, so whats the deal??
|>
|> Essentially, this is actually how it is done. The radar gun is tied into
|> the speedometer of the car.
No, it is independent of the speedometer. The gun processes two doppler
returns--the speed of the car relative to the pavement and the speed
of the target, taking the difference between the two. Some guns with
a "moving mode" actually have a split beam with one beam aimed
preferentially at the pavement.
Car and Driver had a good article on traffic radar, but it was back in
1985. I used its contents and references to defend myself against a bogus
radar-measured ticket. It detailed "moving mode," which is easier to
defend against because of the increased amount of variables.
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