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8200 | From: rjk@world.std.com (Robert J. Kolker)
Subject: Odds and Ends
Keywords: Cheap shots a Christianity
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 46
Just a few cheap shots a Christianity:
Riddle: What is the shortest street in Jerusalem?
Answer: The Street of the Righteous Poles.
Limrick:
There was an archeologist Thostle
Who found an amazing fossil
By the way it was bent
And the knot it the end
'twas the penis of Paul the Apostle.
Jingle:
Christianity hits the spot
Twelve Apostles thats a lot
Jesus Christ and a Virgin too
Christianity's the faith for you
(with apologies to Pepsi Cola and its famous jingle)
Riddle:
How many Christians does it take to save a light bulb.
Answer: None, only Jesus can save.
Aphorism:
Jesus Saves
Moses Invests
Proof that Jesus was Jewish:
1. He lived at home till he was 33
2. He went into his fathers business
3. He thought he mother was a virgin
4. His mother thought he was God.
QED.
So long you all
Bob Kolker
"I would rather spend eternity in Hell with interesting people
than eternity in Heaven with Christians"
--
"If you can't love the Constitution, then at least hate the Government"
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8201 | From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: Re: comparative SCSI performance
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Nntp-Posting-Host: eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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Kurt Tiedtke (ktiedtke@jarthur.claremont.edu) wrote:
: Could someone direct me to information on SCSI performance for each Mac?
: (Max throughput, etc.)
Max thruput on a Centris or Quadra is about 3.3 MB/sec.
Max thruput on IIci or IIfx or equivalent is about 1.4 MB/Sec
Max thruput on slower machines is slower.
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| Peter A. Cohen | No, I don't reflect my employer's opinions. |
| peterco@eff.org | Heck! My employer doesn't even know I'm here! |
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8202 | From: cash@convex.com (Peter Cash)
Subject: "liver" spots
Nntp-Posting-Host: zeppelin.convex.com
Organization: The Instrumentality
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
not necessarily those of CONVEX.
Lines: 8
What causes those little brown spots on older people's hands? Are they
called "liver spots" because they're sort of liver-colored, or do they
indicate some actual liver dysfunction?
--
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| Die Welt ist alles, was Zerfall ist. |
Peter Cash | (apologies to Ludwig Wittgenstein) |cash@convex.com
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8203 | From: simon@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Simon Tardell)
Subject: Re: Sunrise/ sunset times
Nntp-Posting-Host: cyklop.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Lines: 14
In <1993Apr21.141824.23536@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) writes:
>Hello. I am looking for a program (or algorithm) that can be used
>to compute sunrise and sunset times.
>I would appreciate any advice.
I once thought it would be easiest fitting a sine to the times. But not.
This gave discrepancy of upto six minutes. If you fit a sine series
you'll get a very good fit after just three or four terms though. This
presumably has to do with the eccentricity of the Earths orbit.
--
Simon Tardell, Ff88, simon@nada.kth.se V}ga v{gra cgs!
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8204 | From: galvint@cs.nps.navy.mil (thomas galvin)
Subject: Re: Washington To Beat Pitt
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA
Lines: 23
In article <93105.052120RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.015415.10176@mprgate.mpr.ca>, tasallot@galaxy.mpr.ca
>(Mathew Tasalloti) says:
>>chances this year), but it seems to me like Washington is the ONLY
>>team that can stop the Penguins from winning their next Stanley Cup.
>
> Really? I think both the Islanders and Devils would have a better chance
>at the Penguins than the Capitals, IMO.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>** Robbie Po ** PGH PENGUINS!!! "It won't be easy, but it
>Contact for the '93-'94 '91 STANLEY CUP will have greater rewards.
>Penn State Lady Lions '92 CHAMPIONS Mountains and Valleys are
>rap115@psuvm.psu.edu 11 STRAIGHT WINS! better than nothing at all!"
Really? What makes you think the Islanders have a better shot? They
couldn't even beat the Whalers in two games!
(Well, since you're a Pens fans the whole question is moot. I think
the teams most likely to beat the Pens are the Bruins, Nordiques, and
Blackhawks but I don't think they can really do it. :-))
-Tom Galvin galvint@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
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8205 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Re: The systematic genocide of the Muslim population by the Armenians.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 99
In article <1993Apr5.211146.3662@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>I dunno, Warren. Just the other day I heard a rumor that "Serdar Argic"
>(aka Hasan Mutlu and Ahmed Cosar and ZUMABOT) is not really a Turk at all,
>but in fact is an Armenian
1/64th or 63/64th?
I must congratulate your analytical and excellent
reportage about Diana. From the writings of tye
biographers you quoted, I can perceive, maybe
chauvinistically, the remnants of her Armenian
genes. Even though she is only 1/64th Armenian,
she seems to have many of the strong
characteristics of Armenian women. Her Armenian
ancestry is traced to Eliza Kewark (an Armenian
from India), who married the Scottish merchant
Thedore Forbes. From the union was born Kathleen
Scott Forbes, who married James Crombie from
Aberdeen. They had a daughter Jane, who married
David Littlejohn. Their daughter Ruth married
William Gill. Ruth Silvia Gill, the grandmother of
Lady Diana, married Lord Fermoy, and their
daughter, Frances Ruth Burke Roache, married the
eight Earl of Spencer, who was the father of Lady
Diana. It is noteworthy that Eliza Kewark was also
referred to as Mrs. Forbesian (a characteristic
Armenian surname ending). An Armenian-Scottish
gene mix is dynamite.
Levon K. Topuzian
Assistant Professor
Northwestern University
Skoie, Illinois.
TIME, December 21, 1992 'Letters'
>who is attempting to make any discussion of the
>massacres in Armenia of Turks so noise-laden as to make serious discussion
>impossible, thereby cloaking the historical record with a tremendous cloud
>of confusion.
You have set up straw horses and knocked them down. I'm not impressed.
Anyway, the Armenians tore apart the Ottoman Empire's eastern provinces,
massacred 2.5 million defenseless Turkish women, children and elderly
people, burned thousands of Turkish and Kurdish villages and exterminated
the entire Turkish population of the Armenian dictatorship between
1914-1920. Such outrageous sleight of hand that is still employed today
in Armenia brings a depth and verification to the Turkish genocide
that is hard to match. A hundred years ago Armenians again thought
they could get whatever they wanted through sheer terror like the
Russian anarchists that they accepted as role models. Several Armenian
terror groups like ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle
resorted to the same tactics in the 1980s, butchering scores of innocent
Turks and their families in the United States and Europe. It seems that
they are doing it again, at a different scale, in fascist x-Soviet Armenia
today.
Source: Stanford J. Shaw, on Armenian collaboration with invading Russian
armies in 1914, "History of the Ottoman Empire and Modern Turkey (Volume
II: Reform, Revolution & Republic: The Rise of Modern Turkey, 1808-1975)."
(London, Cambridge University Press 1977). pp. 315-316.
"In April 1915 Dashnaks from Russian Armenia organized a revolt in the city
of Van, whose 33,789 Armenians comprised 42.3 percent of the population,
closest to an Armenian majority of any city in the Empire...Leaving Erivan
on April 28, 1915, Armenian volunteers reached Van on May 14 and organized
and carried out a general slaughter of the local Muslim population during
the next two days while the small Ottoman garrison had to retreat to the
southern side of the lake."
"Knowing their numbers would never justify their territorial ambitions,
Armenians looked to Russia and Europe for the fulfillment of their aims.
Armenian treachery in this regard culminated at the beginning of the First
World War with the decision of the revolutionary organizations to refuse
to serve their state, the Ottoman Empire, and to assist instead other
invading Russian armies. Their hope was their participation in the Russian
success would be rewarded with an independent Armenian state carved out of
Ottoman territories. Armenian political leaders, army officers, and common
soldiers began deserting in droves."
"With the Russian invasion of eastern Anatolia in 1914 at the beginning of
World War I, the degree of Armenian collaboration with the Ottoman's enemy
increased drastically. Ottoman supply lines were cut by guerilla attacks,
Armenian revolutionaries armed Armenian civil populations, who in turn
massacred the Muslim population of the province of Van in anticipation of
expected arrival of the invading Russian armies."
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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8206 | From: bf3833@pyuxe.cc.bellcore.com (feigenbaum,benjamin)
Subject: Clinton's views on Jerusalem
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Lines: 15
I recently read that during Bill Clinton's campaign, he stated
that if elected he would immediately recognize Jerusalem as
Israel's capital. According to the article, Mr. Clinton
reaffirmed this after winning the presidency. However,
during recent talks with President Mubarak, Secretary of
State Christopher stated that "the status of Jerusalem
will be a final matter of discussion between the parties".
Now I don't want to start a big discussion over the status
of Jerusalem. All I want to know is if anyone can
authenticate Mr. Clinton's statements with dates, places, etc.
Thank you.
Ben.
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8207 | From: xrcjd@resolve.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles J. Divine)
Subject: Science News article on Federal R&D
Organization: NASA/GSFC Greenbelt Maryland
Lines: 8
Just a pointer to the article in the current Science News article
on Federal R&D funding.
Very briefly, all R&D is being shifted to gaining current
competitive advantage from things like military and other work that
does not have as much commercial utility.
--
Chuck Divine
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8208 | From: mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael D. Walker)
Subject: Re: Question about Virgin Mary
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 19
Two follow up's to Mark's last posting:
1. As far as current investigations, the Church recently declared the
crying statue and corresponding messages from Mary at Akita,
Japan as approved (I found this out about a month ago.)
2. Again in the proof department, start with the appearances of Mary
at Fatima. Among other things, there were pictures taken of the
"miracle of the sun" that appeared in some major American newspaper
(The New York Times, I believe) as well as most of the major
European newspapers.
I could talk (or post) for hours on this topic, but...
(I have a thesis to write).
God Bless,
- Mike Walker
P.S. Anyone want info, I have more. mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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8209 | From: vmp@zombie.oulu.fi (Vesa-Matti Perttunen)
Subject: Re: Diamond Stealth 24 giving 9.4 Winmarks?
In-Reply-To: westes@netcom.com's message of 19 Apr 93 18:56:49 GMT
Lines: 7
Organization: Real Life, Inc.
Does your Stealth 24 have a row of DIP switches on the back plane?
If so, you have the older Revision A board and the winmark results
are absolutely normal. The later Revision B board benchmarks at 13
to 15 million winmarks (at least mine does in 486DX-50 toy).
V
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8210 | From: richard@tis.com (Richard Clark)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Lines: 30
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.tis.com
>packer@delphi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>
>>Is there such a thing as MSG (monosodium glutamate) sensitivity?
>>I saw in the NY Times Sunday that scientists have testified before
>>an FDA advisory panel that complaints about MSG sensitivity are
>>superstition. Anybody here have experience to the contrary?
>
>>I'm old enough to remember that the issue has come up at least
>>a couple of times since the 1960s. Then it was called the
>>"Chinese restaurant syndrome" because Chinese cuisine has
>>always used it.
>
My blood pressure soars, my heart pounds, and I can't get to sleep
for the life of me... feels about like I just drank 8 cups of coffee.
I avoid it, and beet sugar, flavor enhancers, beet powder, and
whatever other names it may go under. Basicaly I read the ingredients, and
if I don't know what they all are, I don't buy the product.
MSG sensitivity is definately *real*.
-----------------------Relativity Schmelativity-----------------------------
Richard H. Clark My opinions are my own, and
LUNATIK - watch for me on the road... ought to be yours, but under
It's not my fault... I voted PEROT! no circumstances are they
richard@tis.com those of my company...
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8211 | From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: CA's pedophilia laws
Article-I.D.: optilink.15216
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 91
In article <1993Apr3.201408.4999@hobbes.kzoo.edu>, k044477@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Jamie R. McCarthy) writes:
> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #Unfortunately, homosexuals don't believe in this concept of freedom.
# #They believe that they have a right to FORCE people to hire them,
# #rent to them, and do business with them, regardless of the feelings
# #or beliefs of the other person.
#
# Allow me to point out that Clayton is once again unfairly lumping an
# entire class of people, as if they all have one will. Having completely
# dived into the abyss of believing that there are no queers in the world
# who think differently from the child-molestation-advocating minority on
# soc.motss, he doesn't even notice that he's starting a sentence with
# "They believe" when the referent of that "they" is millions of people.
# "...so few as to be irrelevant..."
If you don't want to be lumped together as a group, stop insisting
on being treated as a member of a group.
# dreitman@oregon.uoregon.edu (Daniel R. Reitman, Attorney to Be) writes:
# # Force people to hire? No. Require people to give them a fair
# # look? Yes.
#
# cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #You give them a fair look. You decide that you don't want to hire
# #the guy wearing the NAMBLA T-shirt. He files a lawsuit. You lose.
# #Yes, such laws force you to hire homosexuals.
#
# Pedophiles, as well?
Sexual orientation is not defined by the anti-discrimination law
that was passed last year. Pedophilia isn't a sexual orientation?
# And, Cramer, let me describe how you'd have it, and see if this is
# accurate. I apply for a job at a computer company. They see I'm
# wearing some article of homosexual adornment, I dunno, maybe a
# "Silence = Death" pin or something. They turn me down because of
# that. I can't do a darned thing and have to go look somewhere else.
# Am I correct in assuming that you wholeheartedly approve of the
# company's actions, or at least that you wholeheartedly support their
# right to take that action?
I wholeheartedly support their right to take this action. I wouldn't
do it myself, unless it was something like the NAMBLA T-shirt.
# How about: a black man applies for a job at a bank. The bank decides,
# based on statistics, a black person would be more likely to steal
# money, and denies the man the job. Would you support the bank's right
# to this freedom? If not, explain how this differs.
I support their right to do so (just like I support your right to
engage in sodomy with consenting adults), but I think they are doing
something wrong. I wouldn't do business with such a bank.
# Clayton has repeatedly said that California's statutes classify
# pedophilia as a sexual orientation, and that discriminating on the
# basis of sexual orientation is illegal.
#
# If true, I'm frankly amazed. But I don't trust Clayton to give me
# the whole story. Would someone clarify for me whether this is true,
# what sort of discrimination Clayton's talking about (jobs? housing?
# hate crimes?), and whether the effect of the law is really that
# a daycare has to hire an admitted pedophile.
# --
# Jamie McCarthy Internet: k044477@kzoo.edu AppleLink: j.mccarthy
Here's the law that was passed and signed by the governor:
The people of the State of California do enact as follows:
1 SECTION 1. The purpose of this act is to codify
2 existing case law as determined in Gay Law Students v.
3 Pacific Telephone and Telegraph, 24 Cal. 3d 458 (1979)
4 and Soroka v. Dayton Hudson Corp., 235 Cal. App. 3d 654
5 (1991) prohibiting discrimination based on sexual
6 orientation.
7 SEC. 2. Section 1102. is added to the Labor Code, to
8 read:
9 1102.1. (a) Sections 1101 and 1102 prohibit
10 discrimination or disparate treatment in any of the terms
11 and conditions of employment based on actual or
12 perceived sexual orientation.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
13 (b) This section shall not apply to a religious
14 association or corporation not organized for private
15 profit, whether incorporated as a religious or public
16 benefit corporation.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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8212 | From: mallen@wyvern.wyvern.com (Marc L. Allen)
Subject: Re: 486DX/33 CPU chip for sale, (Cyrix, AMD 486s not Intel clones)
Organization: wyvern.com
Distribution: na
Lines: 10
>Beware, From what I understand neither the AMD or Cyrix 486s are clones of
>the Intel 486. They are using the "name" 486 because they run as fast as a
>Intel 486. They do not have exactly the same instuction set nor do they fit
>into the same socket. Most are very fast 386s without coprocessors.
AMD recent won the appeal against Intel to use their Microcode, so they
should be putting out real 486 chips in the near future.
Marc
mallen@wyvern.wyvern.com
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8213 | Subject: roman.bmp 04/14
From: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff)
Reply-To: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of South Dakota
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8214 | From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology
Lines: 20
In article <1993Apr20.195636.17742@guinness.idbsu.edu>, betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz) writes:
> --
> betz@gozer.idbsu.edu
> *** brought into your terminal from the free state of idaho ***
> *** when you outlaw rights, only outlaws will have rights ***
> *** spook fodder: fema, nsa, clinton, gore, insurrection, nsc,
> semtex, neptunium, terrorist, cia, mi5, mi6, kgb, deuterium
If you really want to trigger the scanners then move the keywords
above the -- signature start bit... You'll only trip them once in
a sig (plus every so often it will flag one for human intervention
just to be sure)
I might not be being serious.
--
Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct
Dundee Institute of Technology Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk
Tel: (0382) 308810 (Int +44 382 308810)
** Never underestimate the power of human stupidity **
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8215 | From: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker)
Subject: Re: Boom! Hubcap attack!
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Lines: 21
Reply-To: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu
In a previous article, speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) says:
>I was attacked by a rabid hubcap once. I was going to work on a Yamaha
>750 Twin (A.K.A. "the vibrating tank") when I heard a wierd noise off to my
>left. I caught a glimpse of something silver headed for my left foot and
>jerked it up about a nanosecond before my bike was hit HARD in the left
>side. When I went to put my foot back on the peg, I found that it was not
>there! I pulled into the nearest parking lot and discovered that I had been
>hit by a wire-wheel type hubcap from a large cage! This hubcap weighed
>about 4-5 pounds! The impact had bent the left peg flat against the frame
>and tweeked the shifter in the process. Had I not heard the approaching
>cap, I feel certian that I would be sans a portion of my left foot.
>
Hmmmm.....I wondered where that hubcap went.
--
DoD #650<----------------------------------------------------------->DarkMan
The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of
thinking we were at when we created them. - Albert Einstein
___________________The Eternal Champion_________________
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8216 | From: yaturner@netcom.com (D'arc Angel)
Subject: Re: YOWZA: SLOOOOWWWW printing from dos
Organization: The Houses of the Holy
Lines: 11
I also had a simular problem with by NEC P7, it went away when I turned
on the "print directly to parallel port" option in the printer setup
apallette.
--
Mencsh tract und Gott lacht
yaturner@netcom.com
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8217 | From: root@netdev.comsys.com (Operator)
Subject: DevGuide with Motif - Solaris 2.2 to ease Motif burden ..
Summary: Sun helps software developers support motif
Keywords: SUN, GUI, Motif, DevGuide
Organization: ProTools Inc.
Lines: 25
We've developed a number of applications using DevGuide and found it to
be a very useful tool. I've been impressed with the level of integration it
affords using the connection editor. I love the general ease of use.
I talked with Tali Aben at Sun today about DevGuide + Motif. She was very
helpful. We provided some input as to what we'd like to see in the next
version of DevGuide. Tali was very enthusiatic about our comments. I mentioned
I was going to post this email message and she offered to receive additional
comments from the net on what DevGuide should evolve into.
Send your comments/wish-list, raving, et. al. about DevGuide to:
Tali.Aben@Sun.COM
Pretty cool example of a company that cares what we want.... More of this
and computers may have a future.
Frankly, I like the idea that it will offer some migration capability
to DOE/DOMF through an integrated ToolTalk capability, pointed out in March's
SunExpert magazine.
Technology works, we can crankout the interfaces with DevGuide. Price is
outstanding.
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8218 | From: hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: Will Italy be the Next Domino to Fall?
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Reply-To: hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: DESYDeutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
In article <C5GK0w.J8H@newsserver.technet.sg>, ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
|>Will Italy be the Next Domino to Fall?
|>
|>
|>
|>Socialism may have collapsed in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Disunion
|>but it lingers on in Western Europe and the United States. It remains
|>the primary ideology in the hearts and minds of the liberal academia
|>and media. But all the political correctness they can muster may not be
|>sufficient to hold back the economic forces that threaten to spread
|>socialism's collapse from the second world to the first. Indeed, it is
|>becoming more apparent every day that socialism may not even survive
|>the turn of the century.
Ed of course has never demonstrated remarkable knowlege of socialism,
or any other political system come to that.
|>While the Swedes have already discarded their "third way" and the
|>French have made history by turning out the Socialist Party in a
|>record-setting defeat, it is Italy that appears most precariously
|>on the edge of its political existence.
That leaves Germany, Japan and the UK as examples of a country where the
right wing government is on the verge of collapse. Oh and of course the USA
which just elected a socialist government :-)
|>Italy, today, is a basket-case even by European standards. It has
|>introduced 17 new taxes in 5 months and public-sector revenue is at or
|>near the 50% of GDP mark.
Etc, unfortunately you can't pin this on the left or the right, both are
to blame. Both sides are equally deep into the corruption scandal. The only
untained party is the northern league which is a bunch of nationalist
separatists and the communist party which has collapsed.
|>In spite of this political gluteny, it has
|>an annual deficit exceeding the sum of all other EC countries and a
|>public debt 2.5 times that of Latin America. Italy is understandably
|>having serious trouble selling its treasury bonds in the markets. And
|>while Italy is an extreme case, it is anything but unique; all
|>European governments appear headed in the same direction in spite of
|>their nominally non-socialist governments.
|>
|>Unfortunately, Europeans being, well, Europeans, it is very unlikely
|>that they will discover American-style liberty. Instead, they will
|>likely lurch from socialism to fascism as quickly as they had moved
|>from fascism to socialism never pausing along the way to reasseses the
|>role of government, itself. I hope I am wrong.
Ed should take a look at the budget deficit Regan and Bush created together
before he starts to make claims about europe collapsing based on the budget
deficits here. None of them are serious on the USA scale.
And here in Europe we have zero interest in Ed-Ipser type freed thank you.
We do not want our countries to be run by a narrow elite of rich lawyers
for the benefit of the super wealthy. We are quite happy with social
democracy and despite the fuss made in Time and Newsweek there is remarkably
little being done to reverse the social welfare reforms brought in by
socialism.
The problem with socialism is that it started with the aims of free education
and health care and provision of the welfare state. This has been achieved
across the whole of Europe, only the USA is struggling to catch up. The
problem for socialism is what to do now it has succeeded.
|>Nobody ever claimed that the collapse of socialism would be pretty.
|>The decline of the nation-state will probably lead first to anarchy
|>since politicians always cut essential services before pork. Los
|>Angeles has rampant crime and frantically waits for the next wave of
|>riots but it has a spanking new subway that nobody wants to use and
|>which, like every other public transit system in the world, will never
|>be economically viable. (If you were trying to extort tax payers,
|>which would you cut first, mass transit or police protection?)
Ed starts to discus LA, presumably he thinks that it is in Europe. On
the other hand he most probably hasn't heard of a European city.
|>Thus does the world hurtle toward chaos even as the 21st century
|>approaches.
Rather the opposite. What is happening in Italy is that the communist party
has collapsed. This has meant that the grand coalition between right and
left wing parties to keep out the communists has also collapsed. The
magistrates have seized this opportunity to crack down hard on fraud and
corruption and have arrested half the politicians. The fact that the socialists
are in charge this week is incidental, the right is into the corruption just
as baddly.
What looks likely to happen is the fringe parties are going to do much
better in the next election. Most of the parliamentary deputies are going
to get replaced and the parties are going to be forced to look to people
who are free of any hint of corruption. Look out for a parliament of
Pavarotti's and porn stars.
Phill Hallam-Baker
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8219 | From: tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock)
Subject: Re: Freedom In U.S.A.
Nntp-Posting-Host: orion.oac.uci.edu
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr25.182253.1449@Virginia.EDU> ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
> I have just started reading the articles in this news
>group. There seems to be an attempt by some members to quiet
>other members with scare tactics. I believe one posting said
>that all postings by one person are being forwarded to his
>server who keeps a file on him in hope that "Appropriate action
>might be taken".
> I don't know where you guys are from but in America
>such attempts to curtail someones first amendment rights are
>not appreciated. Here, we let everyone speak their mind
>regardless of how we feel about it. Take your fascistic
>repressive ideals back to where you came from.
It would be nice if, as you rightly point out the inherent value of
freedom of speech, discussion would also deal with the all-to-
frequent ritualized abuses and distortions of that freedom that do
occur. There are situations where a few extremely vocal, and
usually radical, people **do** drive people away, effectively stifle
all other ("opposing") views and generally "take over". *Clearly*,
the purpose behind such actions is *to deprive* others of *their*
freedom of speech through overt and covert coercion and domination of
the "media form" in question. While "freedom" of speech is to be valued,
this is not. How would you suggest that this sort of reoccuring problem be
alleviated? More particularly, how can this be controlled within the
structure of these newsgroups?
--
Tim Clock Ph.D./Graduate student
UCI tel#: 714,8565361 Department of Politics and Society
fax#: 714,8568441 University of California - Irvine
Home tel#: 714,8563446 Irvine, CA 92717
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8220 | From: peba@snakemail.hut.fi (Petri Aukia)
Subject: DIY - PhoneNET, MIDI adapt & MacRecorder
Nntp-Posting-Host: lk-hp-18.hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: comp
Lines: 7
I remember seeing complete instructions for making PhoneNET adapters,
MIDI adapters and a MacRecorder lookalike. After a short search through
Mac.archive and info-mac I failed to see any of the above. Any pointers?
--
--petri.aukia@hut.fi-----------"Supreme Court Ruling: Bolo is an Illegal Drug!"
--peba@hut--"Computer Programmer Steals Minds of Youths Through New Tank Game!"
--pa----"Telephone Standards Rethought Because of New Addictive Computer Game!"
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8221 | From: rjb@akgua.att.com
Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes?
Organization: AT&T
Lines: 69
In article <Apr.23.02.55.25.1993.3117@geneva.rutgers.edu>, rjs2@po.cwru.edu (Richard J. Szanto) writes:
> In a previous article, randerso@acad1.sahs.uth.tmc.edu (Robert Anderson) says:
>
> >I would like to get your opinions on this: when exactly does an engaged
> >couple become "married" in God's eyes? Some say that if the two have
> >publically announced their plans to marry, have made their vows to God, and
> >are unswervingly committed to one another (I realize this is a subjective
> >qualifier) they are married/joined in God's sight.
>
> I have discussed this with my girlfriend often. I consider myself married,
> though legally I am not. Neither of us have been with other people sexually,
> although we have been with each other. We did not have sexual relations
> until we decided to marry eventually. For financial and distance reasons,
> we will not be legally married for another year and a half. Until then,
> I consider myself married for life in God's eyes. I have faith that we
> have a strong relationship, and have had for over 4 years, and will be
> full of joy when we marry in a church. First, however, we must find a
> church( we will be living in a new area when we marry, and will need to
> find a new church community).
>
> Anyway, I feel that if two people commit to marriage before God, they are
> married and are bound by that commitment.
>
> --
> -Rick Szanto
Rick has nailed the problem down pretty well.
As I can find no Scripture (have I missed it ?) that details
when you are married, I have to make some assumptions based
on the PRINCIPLES of Scripture.
It seems to me that it takes 3 parties to make a marriage:
husband-to-be, wife-to-be, and God. If you promise before
each other and God that you will convenant together to be
married, then...you are (IMO).
So why do we have the ceremonial part ? That seems to be
there for "connectedness" in the Body of Christ. My brothers
and sisters ought to be involved so that there can be some
accountability on both our parts. That's part of the concept
from Hebrews about "not forsaking the assembling of yourselves
together as is the custom of some." We need each other because
Lone Ranger Christians and Lone Ranger Marriages smack of a
self sufficiency that the I don't see in the NT. Does anyone
see the Paul Simon "I am a rock, I am an island..." model anywhere
in Christianity. (Song lyrics show your age :-) ) ?
Further, since marriage is a legal matter/institution in the USA
and many other places, and such laws do not specifically go
crosswise to the clear teachings of Scripture, we ought to
obey them to avoid even the appearance of "evil" (I Thess 5:22)
So this would imply at least a civil ceremony before marriage,
but keep in mind we are at least doing all of this for the
conscience of others because back to the beginning...you are
married when you and your intended promise each other and God
to be in convenant. (IMO)
What ch'all think ?
Bobby - akgua!rjb
[In some states, the kind of commitment described in Richard Szanto's
posting can create a common law marriage. Indeed his posting itself
might go a long way towards establishing that a marriage exists,
should the issue ever end up in court. He might want to consult a
lawyer who is familiar with common law marriage in his state. --clh]
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8222 | From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)
Subject: Re: What WAS the immaculate conception
Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Biblical basis for the Immaculate Conception:
1) "I will put enmity between you [the Serpent] and the woman, and
between your seed and her seed, she [can also be read he] shall crush
your head and you shall bruise her [or his] heel."
-Genesis 3.15
2) "He who commits sin is of the devil ..."
-1 John 3.8
3) "Hail, full of grace [greek - kecharitomene], the Lord is with thee ..."
-Luke 1.28
From the above, we prove the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception.
First, God has given the proto-evangel in Genesis 3.15, which is the
first promise of a savior, who will redeem mankind from the wiles of
Satan. "[Satan] was a murderer from the beginning, and has not stood in
the truth because there is no truth in him." John 8.44. Now the
proto-evangel promises several things, enmity between Satan and "the
woman", and enmity between Satan and "her seed." Now the woman is both
Eve (who is the immediate point of reference) and Mary, the second Eve.
"Her seed" is Jesus Christ, and He is also at enmity with Satan in the
same way as Mary is said to be at enmity with Satan. Thus, knowing as
we do that Jesus Christ is sinless (Hebrews 7.26), we can conclude that
Mary is also sinless because if she wasn't she would 1) not be at enmity
with the devil, as 1 John 3.8 tells us, and 2) the relation of her
sinlessness to Christ's sinlessness would be called into question, as
would God's veracity. For God promised an enmity between Mary and the
serpent, and it is not possible for God to lie or be decieved.
Second, we have the Angelic Greeting where Mary is called by the
Archangle Gabriel "full of grace." As I pointed out above this is from
the Greek word "Kecharitomene" which means not just full of grace, but a
plenitude or perfection of grace. The sense of it is best grasped by
the footnote to the Jerusalem Bible, "Hail you who have been and reamin
filled with grace." But that is a little to long to say, so it is
reduced to full of grace. And as it says, "you who have been" Mary had
always been filled with grace, from the moment of her conception, which
was also the moment of her salvation, until her death some years later.
It must be admitted that it is possible that God could have done
what the doctrine of the Immaclute Conception says He did do. And if
God could keep himself free from any contact with sin, through his
Mother, He would have, and the Bible records this fact, to which the
Fathers of the Church such as St. John Damascus, St. Augustine of Hippo
, St. Ambrose and others are in complete agreement with, as is all of
Christian tradition, and as is the infallible declaration of the Pope on
the matter in "Ineffibilus Deus."
Andy Byler
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8223 | From: kjt001@dunix.drake.edu (Albatross)
Subject: Re: 14" monitors
Article-I.D.: dunix.1993Apr6.012714.11565
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On a related note, will the 1304 work on a Centris 650 with internal video
and give the multiple resolutions?
This I'm VERY curious about...
Thanks!
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8224 | From: Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Symbiotics: Zionism-Antisemitism
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From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Symbiotics: Zionism-Antisemitism
Zionism and the Holocaust
-------------------------- by Haim Bresheeth
The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history
of the Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without
anti-semitism is impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet
of anti-Semitism, namely that Jews cannot live with non- Jews.
The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While
the industru of death and destruction did not operate before 1942,
its roots were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish
aspirations for emancipation emerged out of the national struggles
in Europe. When the hopes for liberation through
bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other alternatives for
improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved prominence.
The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had
to contend with opposition from a new and small, almost
insignificant opponent, the political Zionists. In outline these
two offered diametrically opposed options for Jews in Europe.
While the Bund was suggesting joining forces with the rest of
Europe's workers, the Zionists were proposing a new programme
aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
Jewish state.
Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of
forces involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option
tree: every time a certain option is chosen, other routes become
barred. Because of that choice, movement backwards to the point
before that choice was made is impossible. While Zionism as an
option was taken by many young Jews, it remained a minority
position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The Zionist
Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to
represent the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an
interantional organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was
the only international organisation allowed to operate during this
period. From a marginal position, the leaders of the Zionist
Federation were propelled to a prominence and centrality that
surprised even them. All of a sudden they attained political
power, power based not on representation, but from being selected
as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the the 'Jewish
problem'. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements
that affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in
Germany transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in
Germany (and some other countries in Europe) into a real option to
be considered by German Jews.
The best example of this was the 'Transfer Agreement' of 1934.
Immediately after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the
world supported or were organising a world wide boycott of German
goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi regime and the German
authorities searched frantically for a way disabling the boycott.
It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
out, the campaign would collapse.
This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi
party as early as 21. June 1933, outlined the degree of agreement
that existed between the two organisations on the question of
race, nation, and the nature of the 'Jewish problem', and it
offered to collaborate with the new regime:
"The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of
Jews abroad against the German development. Boycott propaganda -
such as is currently being carried out against Germany in many
ways - is in essence unZionist, because Zionism wants not to do
battle but to convince and build."
In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new
regime, the Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott.
The main public act was the signature of the "Transfer Agreement"
with the Nazi authorities during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In
essence, the agreement was designed to get Germany's Jews out of
the country and into Mandate Palestine. It provided a possibility
for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property out of the
country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
right was denied to Jews leaving to any other destination. The
Zionist organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts -
'helping' Jews to leave the country, breaking the ring of the
boycott, exporting German goods in large quantities to Palestine,
and last but not least, enabling the regime to be seen as humane
and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies, the Jews. After
all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now the
Jews come and agree with them.
After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the
Zionist Organization found it possible and necessary to deal with
the Nazis, and import their goods, who could argue for a boycott ?
This was not the first time that the interests of both movements
were presented to the German public as complementary. Baron Von
Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish Department of the SS,
later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to Palestine.
This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a
series of favourable articles in Der STURMER describing the 'new
Jew' of Zionism, a Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
This little-known episode established quite clearly the
relationship during the early days of Nazism, between the new
regime and the ZVfD, a relationship that was echoed later in a
number of key instances, even after the nature of the Final
Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a silencing of
reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the
Holocaust is Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the
Holocaust, by S. B. Beth-Zvi.
In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen's play
PERDITION is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of
the real nature of events does not exist. It occured near the end
of the war. The USSR had advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and
the African bases had been lost. The Nazis were on the run, with a
number of key countries, such as Rumania, leaving the Axis. A
second front was a matter of months away, as the western Allies
prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann,
the master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up his HZ in
occupied Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in
April 1944. His first act was to have a conference with the Jewish
leadership, and to appoint Zionist Federation members, headed by
Kastner as the agent and clearing house for all Jews and their
relationship with the SS and the Nazr authorities. Why they did
this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
three and a half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visibly
different from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian
Jews were an integrated part of the community. The middle class
was mainly Jewish, the Jews were mainly middle-class. They enjoyed
freedom of travel, served in the Hungarian (fascist) army in
fronline units, as officers and soldiers, their names were
Hungarian - how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in
Hungary, most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other
countries. Many had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and
were unlikely to believe any statements by Nazi officials.
Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the
ear of the frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this
case the Judenrat comprsied mainly the Zionist Federation members.
Without their help the SS, with 19 officers and less than 90 men,
plus a few hundred Hungarian police, could not have collected and
controlled a million Jews, when they did not even know their
whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no illusions.
Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to
Auschwitz, before he even started the expulsions! He told them
clearly that all these Jews will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain
conditions were met.
The Committee faced a simple choice - to tell the Jews of Hungary
about their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape,
being in most cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the
Nazis by assisting in the concentration process. What would not
have been believed when coming from the SS, sounded quite
plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist leadership.
Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to their
death, assured by their leadership that they were to be sent to
work camps.
To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
destruction: the trains of 'prominents' which Eichmann promised to
Kastner - a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it
was a bargain: allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid
for the silent collaboration over the death of almost a million
Jews.
There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be
located, not to say murdered, without the full collaboration of
Kastner and his few friends. No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews
here and there, but the scale of the operation would have been
miniscule compared to the half million who died in Auschwitz.
It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration,
like say Rumkovsky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his
strongly held Zionist convictions. His actions were a logical
outcome of earlier positions. This is instanced when he exposed to
the Gestapo the existence of a British cell of saboteurs, Palgi
and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so as not to
disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those
Jews.
To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was
connected to another role they could, and should have played, that
of alarming the whole world to what was happening in Europe. They
had the information, but politically it was contrary to their
priorities. The priorities were, and still are, quite simple: All
that furthers the Zionist enterprise in Palestine is followed,
whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews and non-Jews,
are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so
be it.
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8225 | From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: Too Many Europeans in NHL
In-Reply-To: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca's message of Tue, 6 Apr 1993 02:16:48 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
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In <rauser.734062608@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca writes:
>
>
> Ten years ago, the number of Europeans in the NHL was roughly a quarter
> of what it is now. Going into the 1992/93 season, the numbers of Euros on
> NHL teams have escalated to the following stats:
>
> Canadians: 400
> Americans: 100
> Europeans: 100
>
> Please note that these numbers are rounded off, and taken from the top
> 25 players on each of the 24 teams. My source is the Vancouver Sun.
>
> Here's the point: there are far too many Europeans in the NHL. I am sick
> of watching a game between an American and a Canadian team (let's say, the
> Red Wings and the Canucks) and seeing names like "Bure" "Konstantinov" and
> "Borshevshky". Is this North America or isn't it? Toronto, Detriot, Quebec,
> and Edmonton are particularly annoying, but the numbers of Euros on other
> teams is getting worse as well.
That's why we have expansion - to create more jobs. NHL teams can't afford to
import role players from Europe, they pick the stars but will continue to build
their teams around local players.
>
> With the numbers of Euros in the NHL escalating, the problem is clearly
> only getting worse.
>
> I'm all for the creation of a European Hockey League, and let the Bures
> and Selannes of the world play on their own continent.
I'd *LOVE* to see a European NHL division but can't see it happen for some
time. There's simply not enough fan interest at the moment in several
"crucial" markets like Germany, Italy and France while Sweden and Finland
probably can't afford to shell out $20-$30 for tickets the way
American/Canadian fans do. Call it "the Minnesota North Stars" effect:
Scandinavians do love hockey but we prefer to watch local, inexpensive
hockey to the NHL. The National Hockey League should love the idea, though.
Pan-European TV channels such as Eurosport could bring in the millions the
American networks likely never will pay.
> I just don't want them on mine.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Richard J. Rauser "You have no idea what you're doing."
> rauser@sfu.ca "Oh, don't worry about that. We're professional
> WNI outlaws - we do this for a living."
> -----------------
> "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." -Dr.Banzai
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8226 | From: guykuo@carson.u.washington.edu (Guy Kuo)
Subject: Re: Half-page hand scanners?
Organization: University of Washington
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
The Logitech ScanMan 32 is a nice unit, compact and effective it will
bring in graphics with surprisingly good quality. Note that its effective
resolution in grey scale mode is only about 72 dpi. If you don't intend
to magnify a graphic, it works fine. A true 256 level gray scanner would
work better for images.
I've seen the ScanMan go for as little as $100 used. It is a reasonable buy
at that price. Higher end hand scanners are almost as expensive as used
flat bed scanners. Here is Seattle, the paper shows occasional good bargains
in the classifieds. Used color flat beds have been seen as lows as $500 lately.
Grey scale flatbeds come in around $300-$350.
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8227 | From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey)
Subject: Re: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration. May 7 Crystal City
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
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Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov
In article <1993Apr19.230236.18227@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, daviss@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (S.F. Davis) writes:
> In article <1quule$5re@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
> |>
> |> AW&ST had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration confernce
> |> May 7th at Crystal City Virginia, under the auspices of AIAA.
> |>
> |> Does anyone know more about this? How much, to attend????
> Here are some selected excerpts of the invitation/registration form they
> sent me. Retyped without permission, all typo's are mine.
Thanks for typing that in, Steven. Sounds like a "fall back and
regroup" strategy session.
I wanted to add that my copy of the brochure arrived with a flattering
cover letter:
"Invitations are being extended to those who have demonstrated a
strong committment to space program development and have been
influential in its advancement. We sincerely hope you will be able to
attend."
Wow! I wonder which of my contributions to the conquest of space
convinced them to send me this letter?
I hope you decide to go, Pat. The Net can use some eyes and ears
there...
Bill Higgins | If we can put a man on the Moon, why can't
Fermilab | we put a man on the Moon? -- Bill Engfer
higgins@fnal.fnal.gov | If we can put a man on the Moon, why can't
higgins@fnal.Bitnet | we put a woman on the Moon? -- Bill Higgins
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8228 | From: regy105@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz (James Haw)
Subject: Any good electronic Christian magazine?
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Lines: 9
Hi,
I'd like to subscribe to Leadership Magazine but wonder if there is one on
disk instead of on paper. Having it on disk would save me retyping
illustrations, etc into a word processor. It's just cut and paste.
If there are other good Christian magazines like Leadership on disk media,
I'd appreciate any info.
With gratitude,
James.
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8229 | From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: subliminal message flashing on TV
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
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NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov
In article <7480237@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers) writes:
>> Hi. I was doing research on subliminal suggestion for a psychology
>> paper, and I read that one researcher flashed hidden messages on the
>> TV screen at 1/200ths of a second. Is that possible? I thought the
>> maximum rate the TV was even capable of displaying images was 1/30th
>> of a second. (or 1/60th of a second for an image composed of only odd
>> or even scan lines)
>
>You are correct; the fastest "complete" image that could be presented on
>TV would be one field, which is 1/60 of a second (approximately). Of course,
>the phrase "TV screen" is often thrown around in reference to any CRT
>display, so perhaps this researcher wasn't using normal TV rates. Might
>even be a vector ("strokewriter") display, in which case the lower limit
>on image time is anyone's guess (and is probably phosphor-persistence limited).
Actually, a lot of this work used to be done with a CRT that had a beamsplitter
mounted in front, and a tachistoscope driving it. The tachistoscope is really
just a slide projector with a very fast shutter. Low tech, but it does the job.
--scott
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8230 | From: ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer")
Subject: Freedom In U.S.A.
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 11
I have just started reading the articles in this news
group. There seems to be an attempt by some members to quiet
other members with scare tactics. I believe one posting said
that all postings by one person are being forwarded to his
server who keeps a file on him in hope that "Appropriate action
might be taken".
I don't know where you guys are from but in America
such attempts to curtail someones first amendment rights are
not appreciated. Here, we let everyone speak their mind
regardless of how we feel about it. Take your fascistic
repressive ideals back to where you came from.
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8231 | From: ddr@flux.isr.alaska.edu (Donald D Rice)
Subject: Heavy-duty antenna simulation software
Nntp-Posting-Host: flux.isr.alaska.edu
Organization: Geophysical Institute, Fairbanks, AK
Lines: 21
I would be interested in hearing from anyone who knows of good software for
antenna simulation, particularly in source form suitable for Unix workstations
(though good PC software would also be of interest).
I'm aware of the numerous mininec mutations, and have been using MN for
some time now. I'm primarily interested in HF, VHF, and low UHF (< 500 MHz)
designs, mostly wire antennas, but for thick wires and mesh surfaces as well
as for your basic thin wire assumption.
Is anything interesting happening with NEC itself? I've seen a version
that was mutilated to run (sort of) under Microsoft Fortran, but I'm not
sure how many "new and improved" versions of the code might be out there
somewhere.
I'd also be interested in non-NEC derivatives. The ones I've seen have
been aimed at microwave applications, but if there is something out there
useful at the lower frequencies, I'd like to know about it.
Thanks,
--
Don Rice E-mail: ddr@flux.isr.alaska.edu (Internet)
Geophysical Institute fnddr@alaska (BITNET)
University of Alaska flux::ddr (SPAN)
Fairbanks, AK 99775 Phone: (907) 474-7569 Loran: 64.86N 212.16E
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8232 | From: prestonm@cs.man.ac.uk (Martin Preston)
Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42
Lines: 18
In <C5sCGu.1LL@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) writes:
>I've got the 6.0 spec (obviously since I quoted it in my last posting).
>My gripe about TIFF is that it's far too complicated and nearly
>infinitely easier to write than to read,...
Why not use the PD C library for reading/writing TIFF files? It took me a
good 20 minutes to start using them in your own app.
Martin
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8233 | From: lperez@decserv2.eecs.wsu.edu (Luis G. Perez)
Subject: Re: BEAM Robot Olympic Games next Week in Toronto.
Organization: S
Lines: 10
Does anybody know if there is a mailing list or newsgroup for
Power Systems and related areas?
Thanks,
--
Luis G. Perez
lperez@eecs.wsu.edu
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8234 | From: zxmkr08@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel)
Subject: Re: The _real_ probability of abiogenesis (was Re: Albert Sabin)
Organization: InterNetNews at ZDV Uni-Tuebingen
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In <1qc6tiINNhie@ctron-news.ctron.com> king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
>adpeters@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu (Andy Peters) writes:
>>1) We're not just talking about proteins. In fact, we shouldn't be
>>talking about proteins at all, since (if I have to say this again I'm
>>goint to be really upset) *nobody*claims*that*proteins*appeared*de*
>>*novo*
>>the proteins did not form randomly.
>>
>Before I repond to 2.), Andy, please clarify 1.). You state that
>proteins did not form randomly. That seems to be my point.
Well, I am not Andy, but if you had familiarized yourself with some of
the current theories/hypotheses about abiogenesis before posting :-), you
would be aware of the fact that none of them claims that proteins were
assembled randomly from amino acids. It is current thinking that RNA-
based replicators came before proteinaceous enzymes, and that proteins
were assembled by some kind of primitive translation machinery.
Now respond to 2. :-)
--Cornelius.
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8235 | From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card
Lines: 77
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
In article <CMM.0.90.2.735386976.thomasp@surt.ifi.uio.no> Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>I don't remember the figures EXACTLY, but there were about 3500 deaths in Texas
>in 1991 that was caused by guns.....
How about "firearm related."
>This is more than those beeing killed in car-ACCIDENTS!
Texas is unusual in this regard. It would be nice to reduce them
both, though.
As Texas doesn't appear to have an murder rate that much higher than
the national average, I would expect it is a result of a much higher
suicide rate.
>*I* should not suffer because of others....
Be nice if you didn't have to suffer at all.
>We all agree on this one, BUT we also live in a sociaty and therefor
>we'll have to give up *SOME* of our 'freedom' (Note the '').
Here's where we run into a problem. I am perfectly willing to
have government regulation on something which is likely to cause others
harm. What we're discussing, though, is the extreme regulation of a large
group in order to target a small group, and I don't think that's
appropriate.
>Do you have an insurance??
>Then you'll have to pay because of what others do...
>
>Do you buy anything??
>YOU are paying for those who return goods, steal or even those who gets a bonus...
>
>Do you live with other people??
>Then you 'can't' do ererything you'd want (burping/farting playing music LOUD)
Does this, then, justify anything? At some point you have to draw
a line (at least to my way of thinking) where the government must have
something a little more substantial than a set of percentages with which
to punish an individual.
Where do *you* draw the line? Or is there one?
>One state (don't remember which, Texas??) tried to impose a rule that you could
>only buy ONE gun each MONTH. Think you all know what happened.....
Virginia. It passed.
>I respect the right to defend yourself, but that right should not inflict on
>other people.
Does it?
>It seems like you all realize that you have a problem in America, the only
>problem is that you won't take the car away from the drunk driver, you
>hope to cure him first.
Cute analogy.
The U.S. doesn't treat drunk driving like a serious crime. However,
we also don't confiscate cars of people who drink. We also don't confiscate
*all* cars because some people drink and drive. It's the core of the legal
system that in order to punish an individual (and I'd call property
confiscation a punishment) you must have evidence against that individual.
That is, it isn't enough to show that the majority of people convicted of
murder are white in order to convict a particular white guy of murder.
>Hope life comfirms to the standard of Winnie the Poh.
Huh?
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PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
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8236 | From: chrstie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (William John M. Christie)
Subject: Re: Essene New Testament
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Lines: 16
In <Apr.10.05.31.12.1993.14351@athos.rutgers.edu> harwood@umiacs.umd.edu (David Harwood) writes:
>There had been recent criticism of this in a listserv for academic
>Biblical scholars: they all say the book(s) are modern fakes.
>D.H.
Which listsev was this and is the discussion still current? My questioning
is based on some information presented from the Essene NT that challenges
some of my eating choices. As the info came from a biased (opposed to my
preferences) third party I am looking for info as to whether I should
dismiss this work or put some consideration into it. Thanks again for info!
--
Will Christie | AATCHOO! | PHILOSOPHY: the principles and
University of Manitoba | Uh-oh... | science of thought and reality
Winnipeg, MB, Canada | I'm leaking | PHILOSOPHER: someone who thinks
chrstie@ccu.UManitoba.CA | brain lubricant. | they're useful to society
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8237 | From: mech24135045@msuvx2.memst.edu
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University
Lines: 49
In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>, <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
> CNN is reporting as I write this that the ATF has ignited all
> the buildings of the Branch Dividian ranch near Waco, TX. The
> lies from ATF say "holes were made in the walls and 'non-lethal' tear
> gas pumped in". A few minutes after this started the whole thing went up.
> ALL buildings are aflame. NO ONE HAS ESCAPED. I think it obvious that
> the ATF used armored flame-thrower vehicles to pump in unlit
> napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
Well, actually, the Davidians (Koreshians?) started the fire themselves,
the last I heard ( around 15:00 EST). Eight people ran out into the feilds
surrounding the compound. All were captured and two admitted to setting the
fire. I don't buy your napalm theory at all (although it would have made a
great commercial for my .sig). Why the hell would they have a wood stove
burning on such a warm day? Flame throwers use liquid petroleum, napalm
is more of a gel. Now to further dispute your theory, the diluted CS gas
was inserted around 06:00 if I understood correctly. The place didn't start
burning until around 10:00 or 11:00.
> THIS IS MURDER! ATF MURDERERS! BUTCHERS!!
> THIS IS GENOCIDAL MASS-SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN!
> I have predicted this from the start, but God, it sickens me to see
> it happen. I had hoped I was wrong. I had hoped that there was
> still some shred of the America I grew up with, and loved, left
> alive. I was wrong. The Nazis have won.
Calm down kid. Vernon (Koresh's real name) said himself that he would not leave
that compound alive. The inhabitants thereof had accepted the fact that they
may very well have to kill themselves before it was all over.
> I REPEAT, AS OF THIS TIME THERE ARE **NO SURVIVORS**!
There are at least eight survivors. A caller on Rush Limbaugh today suggested
that the rest may even be hiding in underground bunkers. That's not such a wild
idea considering their weaponry and resolve.
> God help us all.
> PLEASE CROSSPOST -- DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THE SLAUGHTER OF THE
> CHILDREN!
> W. K. Gorman - an American in tears.
Sheesh! Get over it. I haven't heard (read) such ranting since the Hindenberg
burned. This should have ended 50 days ago. I'm glad my tax dollars have
finally stopped working to pay a bunch of guys to stand around and give press
conferences. Now they can get back to more important things, like catching
cigarrette smugglers.
Troy
Napalm sticks to kids.
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8238 | From: littlejs@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Jeffrey S Little)
Subject: Re: Revelations - BABYLON?
Reply-To: littlejs@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu (Jeffrey S Little)
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Lines: 38
In article <Apr.21.03.25.41.1993.1322@geneva.rutgers.edu>
JBUDDENBERG@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Jimmy Buddenberg) writes:
>
> Hello all. We are doing a bible study (at my college) on Revelations. We
> have been doing pretty good as far as getting some sort of reasonable
> interpretation. We are now on chapters 17 and 18 which talk about the
> woman on the beast and the fall of Babylon. I believe the beast is the
> Antichrist (some may differ but it seems obvious) and the woman represents
> Babylon which stands for Rome or the Roman Catholic Church. What are some
> views on this interpretation? Is the falling Babylon in chapter 18 the same
> Babylon in as in chapter 17? The Catholic church?
> Hate to step on toes.
> thanks
An interesting interpretation of Revelation 17 and 18 has been given by
evangelist David Wilkerson. I am not saying that I totally agree with his
interpretation, but it is certainly believable and good food for thought. He
interprets the Babylon of Revelation 17-18 as being none other than the good
old U. S. of A. That's right, America. He supports his claim in several ways.
The Babylon of Revelation is THE world leader in trade and commerce, and the
WHOLE WORLD wept when Babylon fell. The American dollar, despite the Japanese
success of the 20th century, is STILL the most sought after currency in the
world. If the U.S. were destroyed, wouldn't the whole world mourn? The bible
also talks about Babylon being a home of harlots, sin, and adultery (I am
paraphrasing, of course). Babylon's sin affected, or should I say, infected,
the whole world. It doesn't take much looking to see that the U.S. is in a
state of moral decay. Hasn't the American culture and Hollywood spread the "do
it if it feels good" mentality all over the world. I think, though, that what
Mr. Wilkerson uses as his strongest argument is the fact that Revelation calls
Babylon "Babylon the Great" and portrays it as the most powerful nation on
earth. No matter how dissatisfied you are with the state of our country, I
don't think you would have too much trouble agreeing that the U.S. is STILL the
most powerful nation on earth.
Again, this interpretation is not NECESSARILY my own, but I do find it worthy
of consideration.
Jeffrey Little
|
8239 | From: katkere@krusty.eecs.umich.edu (Arun Katkere)
Subject: Re: cylinder and ray
Reply-To: katkere@engin.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Lines: 19
In article <1qc1fgINNbv4@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, koehler@secs.ucsc.edu writes:
|> I would be most thrilled if some kind person could help me with the following
|> Given a cylinder in 3D -defined as a line segment between two points and
|> a radius (e.g. Sx,Sy,Sz to Ex,Ey,Ez and r), what is the easiest (and not
|> too expensive) way to find if a ray -defined as another line through two
|> points -cuts through this cylinder and if so where?
|> I think the test for touching is rather simple: if the closest approach
|> of the two lines is less than r, then the ray does penetrate the cylinder.
Nope, this won't work for a cylinder. You can have a line arbitrarily close
to the the cylinder backbone, and yet not intersect it. The test works for a
pillbox, though. (a cylinder with two hemispheres attached at the ends.)
|> Thanks,
|> Ryan (koehler@secs.ucsc.edu)
-arun
--
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8240 | Subject: Re: Speculations
From: dgraham@bmers30.bnr.ca (Douglas Graham)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Lines: 17
In article <930405.172903.4w6.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>Nanci Ann Miller <nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> If this god is truly omnipotent as you folks like to claim, then why can't
>> he terminate eternity?
>
>For the same reason he can't flibble glop ork groink.
>
>The thing you are demanding that he must be able to do, has no meaning in its
>own terms.
This is a classic example of excessive faith in reason. The fact that we
have trouble talking about something doesn't imply that it is impossible; it
simply implies that it is hard to talk about. There is a very good chance
that God *can* flibble glop ork groink. Charlie Wingate can flibble glop
ork groink, and he isn't even God.
--
Doug Graham dgraham@bnr.ca My opinions are my own.
|
8241 | From: brandt@cs.unc.edu (Andrew Brandt)
Subject: 4Runner and Pathfinder recent changes.
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Lines: 9
NNTP-Posting-Host: axon.cs.unc.edu
Keywords: 4runner, pathfinder, change, update
I am interested in finding out how the 4Runner and Pathfinder have
been updated in the past few years. Like new engine, suspension and
the like. I noticed that the 1993 and 1992 4Runners are identical,
for example, and was looking into buying a used one.
Any info would be appreciated, esp. models/years to check out or
avoid.
Thx, Andy (brandt@cs.unc.edu)
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8242 | From: erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: pb100 memory upgrade
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 16
jeffe@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (george) writes:
>does the pb100 use different memory than the newer models?
>I am looking to buy a 2Mb upgrade, so I need to know
>which other powerbooks use the same 2Mb card.
I think all Powerbooks use the same 2 Meg upgrade, but the
4 Meg and 6 Meg upgrades are different for the PB100 than
for the other PBs.
-----
Eric Smith
erics@netcom.com
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610
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8243 | Organization: Penn State University
From: Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Goodbye, good riddance, get lost 'Stars
Lines: 22
In article <DT642B1w165w@sms.business.uwo.ca>, s4lawren@sms.business.uwo.ca
(Stephen Lawrence) says:
> Goodbye Minnesota,...you never earned the right to have an NHL
>franchise in the first place!
> Hope you enjoy your Twin city wide mania for HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY
>(hey, by the way my old pee wee team is having a reunion in Regina, care
>to come up and film the event?)
> Yee haa Golden Gophers
>Whatta weird town!!!!!
--Minnesota definitely deserves an NHL franchise!!! You'll see the
Minnesota Whalers pretty soon, so fear not Minnesota fans. No Norm Green,
'cept for the team color (sorry, bad pun!)
--What a difference two years makes! Minnesota finished 29-37-14 in 1992
and made the finals. They finish with a better record at 38-38-10 thi year
and move to Dallas. Every team in the playoffs has a winning record!!!
Finally!!! It's about time, NHL!!!
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** Robbie Po ** PGH PENGUINS!!! "It won't be easy, but it
Contact for the '93-'94 '91 STANLEY CUP will have greater rewards.
Penn State Lady Lions '92 CHAMPIONS Mountains and Valleys are
rap115@psuvm.psu.edu 11 STRAIGHT WINS! better than nothing at all!"
|
8244 | From: bcherkas@netcom.com (Brian Cherkas)
Subject: Re: HELP! Duo 230 problems
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 41
chess@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Vantuyl Chess) writes:
> I just got a Duo 230, and I'm having some difficulties.
>If the machine is plugged in to the wall adapter, put to sleep,
>unplugged from the wall, and woken up, it crashes 75% of the time.
>(There's nothing but the original system software on the machine.)
>The battery has plenty of life - I think this must be a power manager
>problem, but I don't know what to do about it.
>Also, the speaker occasionally makes a high-pitched hiss. The noise
>is irregular, but seems to favor sleep and restart commands.
I've had my Duo 230 for a few weeks now and suffer from both
of the above problems. I reinstalled my system software twice
in an effort to combat the problems - thinking they were
system software problems. Initially reinstalling the system
seemed to help but not anymore. Occasionally when I try to
wake up the Duo I get a solid screen of horizontal lines on
the screen - it freezes.
I also get the high-pitched hiss occasionally - but only at
startup.
I've called the apple hotline (800 SOS-APPL) three times
already and finally they agreed something is astray after my
Duo's screen would go dim and the hard drive spun down by
itselft and put itself to sleep. This problem only occured
twice. Apple sent me a box to ship my Duo to be looked at in
New York but the problem now is intermittent and I can't
afford to be without my Duo at this time.
Anyone out there with these same problems?
--
Brian Cherkas * * bcherkas@netcom.com
I
AOL/BrianC22 \_/ compuserve/71251,3253
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
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8245 | From: eric@tgm.CAM.ORG (Eric Trepanier)
Subject: More Cool BMP files??
Reply-To: eric@tgm.CAM.ORG
Organization: Bell Sygma, Revenue Systems Development
Lines: 27
In article <1993Apr17.023017.17301@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> rwang@gmuvax2.gmu.edu writes:
>
> Hi, everybody:
> I guess my subject has said it all. It is getting boring
> looking at those same old bmp files that came with Windows. So,
> I am wondering if there is any body has some beautiful bmp file
> I can share. Or maybe somebody can tell me some ftp site for
> some bmp files, like some scenery files, some animals files,
> etc.... I used to have some, unfortunately i delete them all.
I downloaded the CompuServe GIF of the month. A raytraced image of
a golf ball next to a hole. Very nice, 640x480x256 bitmap, easily
converted to a Windows BMP. If anyone wants, I could upload a copy
on Cica...
Eric
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|
8246 | From: jyow@desire.wright.edu
Subject: RADAR DETECTOR: Whistler: X,K,Ka
Organization: Wright State University
Lines: 7
Whistler Spectrum 2-SE. X, K, Ka. Pulse protection. Good condition.
Purchased for $130, asking for $80.
--
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Jason Yow Human Factors Psychology Program
Wright State University, Dayton, OH E-mail: jyow@desire.wright.edu
************************************************************************
|
8247 | From: gregg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Gregg L. Kasten)
Subject: differences in insurance companies' rates
Keywords: insurance
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ca
Lines: 23
I am considering buying an new car, so I called three insurance
companies in California to get estimates. I asked for the same
coverage and same deductibles. Most of the companies charge you
according to your zip code. Others charge according to your city.
Anyhow, I gave the same zip code and city to all three places. Here's
what I found (for a '93 Integra GS):
AAA: ~$2000/yr.
State Farm: 2614.92/yr.
Allstate: 1220/yr.
AAA is non-profit, so they said I could also expect to receive about
$200-300 back at the end of the year.
Still, There is a huge gap between all of these companies. State Farm
wants MORE than TWICE as much as Allstate. I think I should be
suspicious, but I've never heard anybody else complain.
Any comments?
Thanks,
Gregg L. Kasten
gregg@cs.stanford.edu
|
8248 | From: kissane@black.Berkeley.EDU (John G. Kissane)
Subject: Re: Manual Shift Bigots
Nntp-Posting-Host: black
Reply-To: kissane@rtsg.mot.com (John G. Kissane)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Lines: 7
As a matter of interest does anyone know why autos are so popular in the US while
here in Europe they are rare??? Just wondering.....
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UUCP : ..uunet!motcid!glas!kissanej | Mahon Industrial Estate, | =() ()=
Internet: kissanej@glas.rtsg.mot.com | Blackrock, Cork, Ireland | U
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8249 | From: dpw@sei.cmu.edu (David Wood)
Subject: Re: And Another THing:
In-Reply-To: mangoe@cs.umd.edu's message of 3 Apr 93 00:46:07 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Lines: 39
mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate) writes:
>Keith Ryan writes:
>>
>>You will ignore any criticism of your logic, or any possible incongruenties
>>in your stance? You will not answer any questions on the validity of any
>>opinion and/or facts you state?
>When I have to start saying "that's not what I said", and the response is
>"did so!", there's no reason to continue. If someone is not going to argue
>with MY version of MY position, then they cannot be argued with.
But of course YOUR version of YOUR position has been included in the
Charley Challenges, so your claim above is a flat-out lie. Further,
only last week you claimed that you "might not" answer the Challenges
because you were turned off by "included text". So which is it, do
you want your context included in my articles or not? Come to think
of it, this contradiction has the makings of a new entry in the next
Challenges post.
By the way, I've kept every bloody thing that you've written related
to this thread, and will be only too pleased to re-post any of it to
back my position. You seem to have forgotten that you leave an
electronic paper trail on the net.
>>This is the usual theist approach. No matter how many times a certain
>>argument has been disproven, shown to be non-applicable or non-sequitur;
>>they keep cropping up- time after time.
>Speaking of non-sequiturs, this has little to do with what I just said. And
>have some sauce for the goose: some of the "disproof" is fallacies repeated
>over and over (such as the "law of nature" argument someone posted recently).
Now, now, let's not change the subject. Wouldn't it be best to finish
up the thread in question before you begin new ones?
--Dave Wood
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8250 | From: cub@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Ray Miller)
Subject: Sid Fernandez?
Nntp-Posting-Host: chopin
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Lines: 10
I read this morning that Sid Fernandez left last nights' game with stiffness
in his shoulder. Does anyone have any information as to the extent of the
injury (if indeed there is one), or weather the cold air in Colorado just got
his joints a little stiff?
Thanks for the help...
| Ray Miller | DISCLAIMER |
| cub@chopin.jpl.nasa.gov | All opinions are strictly my own |
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday" WCFields
|
8251 | From: prestonm@cs.man.ac.uk (Martin Preston)
Subject: Problems grabbing a block of a Starbase screen.
Keywords: Starbase, HP
Lines: 26
At the moment i'm trying to grab a portion of a Starbase screen, and store it
in an area of memory. The data needs to be in a 24-bit format (which
shouldn't be a problem as the app is running on a 24 bit screen), though
i'm not too fussy about the exact format.
(I actually intend to write the data out as a TIFF but that bits not the
problem)
Does anyone out there know how to grab a portion of the screen? The
block_read call seems to grab the screen, but not in 24 bit colour,
whatever the screen/window type i get 1 byte per pixel.
thanks in advance,
Martin
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|Computer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, | is just |
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|Manchester, U.K., M13 9PL Phone : 061 275 6095 | |
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8252 | From: shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday)
Subject: Re: Unconventional peace proposal
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Lines: 41
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: composer.think.com
In article <1483500348@igc.apc.org>, Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
|>
|> From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
|> Subject: Unconventional peace proposal
|>
|>
|> A unconventional proposal for peace in the Middle-East.
|> ---------------------------------------------------------- by
|> Elias Davidsson
This could be accomplished by other criteria. One must remember
that children often bring stress into households. As an alternative,
one could consider financial incentives for every sexual act performed
by two partners of different ethnic backgrounds. The plan could
be entitled "PEACE INCOME SEXUAL SECURITY", or PISS for short.
Every time an Israeli gets screwed
by a Palestinian or visa versa, they would be eligible for income.
In keeping with the spirit of the times, condoms would be a tax deductible
expense. This policy does not discriminate on a gender basis nor
would it apply to domestic animals of either nationality.
Joint Palestinan-Israeli teams would be obligated to ensure that all
acts were voluntary and promptly rewarded. The teams of Palestinian-Israel
Morals Patrols, or PIMPS, would receive a percentage of the financial
income in order to encourage their participation and add to their
incentive in locating suitable candidates.
|> I would be thankful for critical comments to the above proposal as
|> well for any dissemination of this proposal for meaningful
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Shouldn't that be insemination?
|> Elias Davidsson Post Box 1760 121 Reykjavik, ICELAND
--
Shai Guday | Stealth bombers,
OS Software Engineer |
Thinking Machines Corp. | the winged ninjas of the skies.
Cambridge, MA |
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8253 | From: CROSEN1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Charles Rosen)
Subject: Lots of runs
Nntp-Posting-Host: ua1vm.ua.edu
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Lines: 4
I have noticed that this year has had a lot of high scoring games (at least the
NL has). I believe one reason are the expansion teams. Any thoughts?
Charles
|
8254 | From: thom@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Thomas Clancy)
Subject: Re: Thrush ((was: Good Grief! (was Re: Candida Albicans: what is it?)))
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Lines: 55
dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <21APR199308571323@ucsvax.sdsu.edu> mccurdy@ucsvax.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.) writes:
>>Dyer is beyond rude.
I'll drink to that.
>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't threaten to rip your lips off, did I?
>Snort.
>>There have been and always will be people who are blinded by their own
>>knowledge and unopen to anything that isn't already established. Given what
>>the medical community doesn't know, I'm surprised that he has this outlook.
>Duh.
Nice to see Steve still has his high and almighty intellectual prowess
in tact.
>>For the record, I have had several outbreaks of thrush during the several
>>past few years, with no indication of immunosuppression or nutritional
>>deficiencies. I had not taken any antobiotics.
>Listen: thrush is a recognized clinical syndrome with definite
>characteristics. If you have thrush, you have thrush, because you can
>see the lesions and do a culture and when you treat it, it generally
>responds well, if you're not otherwise immunocompromised. Noring's
>anal-retentive idee fixe on having a fungal infection in his sinuses
>is not even in the same category here, nor are these walking neurasthenics
>who are convinced they have "candida" from reading a quack book.
Yawn...
>>My dentist (who sees a fair amount of thrush) recommended acidophilous:
>>After I began taking acidophilous on a daily basis, the outbreaks ceased.
>>When I quit taking the acidophilous, the outbreaks periodically resumed.
>>I resumed taking the acidophilous with no further outbreaks since then.
>So?
Exactly my question to you, Steve. What's your point? This person had
one, you didn't
>--
>Steve Dyer
Nice to see that some things never change, Steve, if you aren't being
ignorant in one group [*.alternative] you're into another. One positive
thing came out of it, you are no longer bothering the folks in
*.alternative, it's just a shame that these people have to suffer so
that others may breath freely.
Sorry for wasting bandwidth folks. Don't forget to bow down once
every second day, and to offer your first born to the almight
omniscient, omnipotent, Mr. Steve.
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8255 | From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Re: Who be Conservative on this.....
Organization: Who, me???
Lines: 31
In article <1993Apr5.005204.29158@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
>kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr2.155820.16998@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:
>>>
>>>The SC allows restrictions after 'viability' (a term never medically defined)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>Any physician who can't make a reasonable stab at determining whether a given
>>fetus is viable or not is not qualified to perform an abortion.
>
>Kebbin shows that he does not know the difference between determining
>the viability of an *individual* fetus, and providing the "universally
>accepted medical definition[s] of viability"
I was not discussing "universal" definitions in this post, Mark. Please
refrain from dragging in irrelevancies.
Do you agree with my statement above about physicians being unqualified if
they can't determine viability?
>>Since we know
>>that there are SOME physicians out there who are qualified to perform
>>abortions, then obviously SOME medical definition of "viability" is being
>>employed.
>
>On an case by case basis, viability is relatively easy to determine.
And that's good enough for the law, Mark. So why do you keep whining that
viability "isn't defined"? What purpose does your whining serve?
- Kevin
|
8256 | From: jtrascap@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jim Trascapoulos)
Subject: Re: Can I put a 1.44 floppy in an SE?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Lines: 24
ericr@solbourne.com (Eric Robison) writes:
>I've got a Mac SE, I've got a spare 1.44mb floppy drive. I've seen SE's
ith
>a 1.44 floppy drive. Can I put my floppy drive into my SE and get it to
ork?
>If so, how?
>Thanks!
>Eric
>--
>| Eric Robison |Disclaimer: I claim dis.
>| ericr@Solbourne.com |
>| GET ME OFFA THIS &*^*&%&^# PLANET!!
Sure thing - You'll have to get an FDHD upgrade kit from Apple, which
includes a HD floppy drive, 2 different chips (the SWIM chip was mentioned
in another post) and a different floppy drive cable. Get the Apple kit
through your dealer.
** Jim Trascapoulos * jtrascap@nyx.du.edu * "What size ID do YOU wear?" **
|
8257 | From: jvl@idca.tds.philips.nl (Jan van Loenen)
Subject: Re: Diamond SS24X, Win 3.1, Mouse cursor
Lines: 47
dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.204845.24939@nlm.nih.gov> dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh) writes:
>>
>>Anybody seen mouse cursor distortion running the Diamond 1024x768x256 driver?
>>Sorry, don't know the version of the driver (no indication in the menus) but it's a recently
>>delivered Gateway system. Am going to try the latest drivers from Diamond BBS but wondered
>>if anyone else had seen this.
>>
>As a followup, this is a co-worker's machine. He has the latest 2.03 drivers.
>It only happens using the 1024x768x256 driver. Sometimes it takes a minute
>or so for the cursor to wig out, but it eventually does in this mode. I
>susect something is stepping on memory the video card wants. I excluded
>a000-c7ff in the EMM386 line and in system.ini The problem persisted.
>Perhaps it is something specific to the Gateway machine or it's components.
>It is a 66mhz DX/2 Eisa bus with an Ultrastore (24xx?) controller. Ah well,
>I was hoping this was some kind of 'known problem' or somebody had seen it
>before. Perhaps a call to Gateway is in order, but I do find folks here
>usually are far more in the know.
I have (had) several problems with the card.
- Applications crashed when moving the mouse (VGA mode). Fixed by removing
the line STACKS=0,0 from config.sys. The default value STACKS=9,256
does just fine.
- Random white pixels all over the screen when moving the mouse, in a
256 color graphical mode (the hardware cursor modes). Fixed by turning
off the hardware scroll ("24xmode scrolloff") before entering the graphics
mode. This also fixed the problem of the windowed DOS boxes under windows.
With the hardware scroll enabled, applications write garbage outside the
window.
- The screensavers do not remove the cursor in 256 color modes (hardware
cursor). I don't know if this is a windows problem or a driver problem.
Clearly there should be two types of cursor removing functions: a remove-
for-draw, which can be ignored for hardware cursors and a remove-
unconditionally. Do other cards with hardware cursors have the same problem?
- The VESA driver does not support the 640x480x16M TrueColor mode. (Universal
VESA drivers do not run at all).
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8258 | From: stecz@pencom.com (John Steczkowski)
Subject: Re: $6700 for hail damage - a record?
Reply-To: stecz@pencom.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pencom Software
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr19.235711.7285@cactus.org> boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle)
writes:
>
>
> My 90 Integra was hit hard in the 3/25 hailstorm in Austin, TX.
> The insurance company cut me a check for $6600 ($100 deductible)
> last week. Is this a record? Anybody else had settlements from
> the same hailstorm yet?
>
> Craig
Rumor has it that a guy at Dell Computer had his Miata totalled, so that would
be about $10k.
--
--
John Steczkowski stecz@pencom.com
The Constitution grants you the right to life, liberty, and the
*pursuit* of happiness. It does not attempt to guarantee that
everyone *will* be happy.
|
8259 | From: candee@brtph5.bnr.ca (Candee Ellis P885)
Subject: Re: HELP for Kidney Stones ..............
Organization: BNR Inc. RTP, NC
Lines: 8
If you think you have kidney stones or your doctor tells you that you do,
DEFINITELY follow up on it. My sister was diagnosed with kidney stones
1 1/2 years ago and given medication to take to dissolve them. After that
failed and she continued to be in great pain, they decided she had
endometriosis. When they did exploratory surgery, they discovered she
had a tumor, which turned out to be rhabdomyosarcoma -- a very rare
and agressive cancer. I realize this is not what happens in the majority
of cases, but you never know what can happen and shouldn't take chances!
|
8260 | From: mcbride@ohsu.edu (Ginny McBride)
Subject: Re: Trumpet for Windows & other news readers
Article-I.D.: ohsu.mcbride.126
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University
Lines: 31
Nntp-Posting-Host: 137.53.60.24
In article <ashok.653.0@biochemistry.cwru.edu> ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar) writes:
>In article <1993Apr21.082430@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be> wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder) writes:
>>What the status of Trumpet for Windows? Will it use the Windows sockets ?
[stuff deleted]
>Currently WinTrumpet is in very late beta. It looks like an excellent
>product, with several features beyond the DOS version.
>WinTrumpet supports the Trumpet TCP, Novell LWP, and there is also a direct to
>packet driver version that some people are using with the dis_pkt shim.
>Ashok
>--
>Ashok Aiyar Mail: ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu
>Department of Biochemistry Tel: (216) 368-3300
>CWRU School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio Fax: (216) 368-4544
What's it gonna cost?
Ginny McBride Oregon Health Sciences University
mcbride@ohsu.edu Networks & Technical Services
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8261 | From: m_klein@pavo.concordia.ca (CorelMARK!)
Subject: Re: cubs & expos roster questions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Nntp-Posting-Host: pavo1.concordia.ca
Organization: Concordia University
Lines: 26
In article <0096B0F0.C5DE05A0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes...
>In article <1993Apr15.003015.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>, cvadrnlh@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>>Today (4/14) Cubs activated P Mike Harkey from DL, whom did they move to make
>>room for Harkey?
>>Also, are Delino Deshields & John Wetteland of the Expos on the DL?
>>Thanks for anyone who can give me more info!
>>/===
>>Ken
>>Cal Poly, Pomona
>>
>
>Wetteland is on the DL effective March 26 or something like that.
>
>rick
Wetteland comes off the DL on April 23rd, and will be evaluated on the 24th.
He is throwing well, and without pain on the side.
DeShields is not on the DL. He suffered from the chicken pox and lost
(this is the official total) 12 pounds. He will be back, hopefully,
next week.
Walker will be back this tonight or tomorrow...
CorelMARK! from Montreal.
|
8262 | From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: How to get 24bit color with xview frames ?
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Lines: 17
amathur@ces.cwru.edu (Alok Mathur) writes:
>I would like to know how I can set the depth of the frame to be 24 bits.
>I tried using the following Xlib code :
>Am I using a completely wrong approach here ? Is it possible to set the depth
Yes.
>and colormap for a window created by Xview ? What am I doing wrong ?
Look up XV_DEPTH. Also, you might want to try using XView colormap segments
instead of Xlib for your colormap stuff. They will probably be easier
for you to use, and since you are using a TrueColor visual, you won't
be losing anything compared to straight Xlib.
-Jonathan hue@island.COM
|
8263 | From: roking@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (robert king)
Subject: Specs for a WD drive...
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Distribution: na
Lines: 15
Greetings all...
Could some kind sole email me the specs for a Western Digital drive?
It is Model # WD93044-A with 782 cyl and 4 hds. But I do not know the
sectors per track, or any of the other information I have to feed to my
bios to get it up and running.
Thanx for any help
Bob K.
roking@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu
nope... no sig. Honest :)
|
8264 | From: s913579@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Lost Cause)
Subject: Connection Machine
Organization: Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology
Lines: 19
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Hiya all,
I realise this has little to do with pc's but it does have a lot to do
with hardware....
So, has nay of you heard of a computer called the Connection Machine.
If so, could you e-mail me any and all info you have,
eg- references, ideas etc.
All help is appreciated.
Caviar Dreams
L.Cause
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+----s913579@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU---Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology---+
| _/ "Music is like directing sounds theatrically, moulding them into |
| _/_/ landscapes.. I wanted to link my music to places, architectural |
| _/_/_/ environments and visual techniques." - J.M.Jarre |
|
8265 | From: guykuo@carson.u.washington.edu (Guy Kuo)
Subject: Re: Q700 at 34.5MHz, it's fine...
Organization: University of Washington
Lines: 11
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
>I have had my Q700 running with a 66.666 MHz osc for a few months. I have a
>number of SCSI devices connected (Quantum LP52, Maxtor 213, Toshiba MK156F via
>Emulex adapter, Pioneer DRM-600) and have had no trouble.
Is this being done with the motherboard's SCSI interface? If this is possible
then a bit of experimenting with just plain old clock oscillators may be
in order. Give us some more details please.
The Mad Clock Chipper in Seattle
<guykuo@u.washington.edu>
|
8266 | From: CONRADIE@firga.sun.ac.za (Gerrit Conradie)
Subject: Re: Is car saftey important?
Organization: University of Stellenbosch, SA
Lines: 25
In article <1993Apr20.163527.12773@bnr.ca> tcorkum@bnr.ca (Trevor Corkum) writes:
>Subject: Is car saftey important?
> I was recently thumbing through the 1993 Lemon-Aid New
>Car Guide. What I found was a car would be given a 'Recommended'
>under the picture while a few sentences later noting how a
>driver and passenger were virtually guaranteed to be killed
>in a front end collision. The most highly recommended small
>car (The Civic) has the worst crash rating of all of the small
>cars listed. There were many such cases of 'great' vehicles
>where you wouldn't survive an accident. Is it only me, or is
>safety not one of the most important factors when buying a car?
>
Definitely!
Safety is an important criterium for me when buying a car. I won't buy a
small car like a Civic or whatever.
Great = Safety + Handling + Speed - for me
Seems to me that you would be more "dead" in a small car than a large car
after an accident.
- gerrit
|
8267 | From: ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth)
Subject: Selective Placebo
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Lines: 55
JB> romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ella I Baff) writes:
JB>
JB> Ron Roth recommends: "Once you have your hypoglycemia CONFIRMED through the
JB> proper channels, you might consider the following:..."
JB> [diet omitted]
JB>
JB> 1) Ron...what do YOU consider to be "proper channels"...this sounds suspiciously
I'm glad it caught your eye. That's the purpose of this forum to
educate those, eager to learn, about the facts of life. That phrase
is used to bridle the frenzy of all the would-be respondents, who
otherwise would feel being left out as the proper authorities to be
consulted on that topic. In short, it means absolutely nothing.
JB> like a blood chemistry...glucose tolerance and the like...suddenly chemistry
JB> exists? You know perfectly well that this person can be saved needless trouble
JB> and expense with simple muscle testing and hair analysis to diagnose...no
JB> "CONFIRM" any aberrant physiology...but then again...maybe that's what you mean"
Muscle testing and hair analysis, eh? So what other fascinating
space-age medical techniques do you use? Do you sit under a pyramid
over night as well to shrink your brain back to normal after a mind-
expanding day at your 'Save the Earth' clinic?
JB> 2) Were you able to understand Dick King's post that "90% of diseases is not thy
JB> evaluate the statistic you cited from the New England Journal of Medicine. Coul?
Once I figure out what *you* are trying to say, I'll still have
to wrestle with the possibility of you conceivably not being able
to understand my answer to your question?!
JB> 3) Ron...have you ever thought about why you never post in misc.health.alterna-
JB> tive...and insist instead upon insinuating your untrained, non-medical, often
JB> delusional notions of health and disease into this forum? I suspect from your
JB> apparent anger toward MDs and heteropathic medicine that there may be an
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You little psychoanalytical rascal you! Got me all figured out, ja?
JB> underlying 'father problem'...of course I can CONFIRM this by surrogate muscle
JB> testing one of my patients while they ponder my theory to see if one of their
JB> previously weak 'indicator' muscles strengthens...or do you have reservations
JB> about my unique methods of diagnosis? [......]
JB>
JB> John Badanes, DC, CA
JB> romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu
Oh man, when are you going to start teaching all this stuff? I'll
bet everyone on this net must be absolutely dying to learn more about
going beyond spinal adjustments and head straight for the mind for
some Freudian subluxation.
--Ron--
---
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|
8268 | From: sys1@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher)
Subject: Re: Using California's Antidiscrimination: The Sort Of Case I Predicted
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Lines: 26
In article <15312@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>In article <1993Apr08.092954.13507@armory.com>, rstevew@armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) writes:
># Face it, Clayton, he was not found guilty, and so what if gays sometimes
># make it consensually with 16 year old boys. There ARE 16 year old gays, you
># know. And as I recall, the case of the state rested on the testimony of one
># "victim" who declined to testify, even under threat. I have had teens since
># I was 40, and so have a lot of people. Face it Clayton, you're just a jerk!
># -RSW
># --
># * Richard STEVEn Walz rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (408) 429-1200 *
># * 515 Maple Street #1 * Without safe and free abortion women are *
># * Santa Cruz, CA 95060 organ-surrogates to unwanted parasites.* *
>
>I am always amazed to see people admit to breaking the law -- and
>putting their address in the signature. Please tell us more about
>this. Were they 13? 14? Would you like to make a statement for
>the district attorney?
I had sex with a 13 year old boy, it was great, we did *everything*,
well, a hell of a lot. It was fun anyway. Oh, and before you turn
purple with rage I was 12 at the time.
>--
>Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
>Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
|
8269 | From: galen@picea.CFNR.ColoState.EDU (Galen Watts)
Subject: Re: Suggestions on Audio relays ???
Nntp-Posting-Host: storm.cfnr.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado Concert Sound
Lines: 25
In article <1993Apr20.102756.1709@mala.bc.ca> wagner@mala.bc.ca (TOM WAGNER, Wizzard of old Audio/Visual Equipment........Nanaimo Campus) writes:
>In article <C5r60r.4ID@megatest.com>, alung@megatest.com (Aaron Lung) writes:
>> In article <C5qsBF.IEK@ms.uky.edu> billq@ms.uky.edu (Billy Quinn) writes:
>>>I built a little project using the radio shack 5vdc relays to switch
>>>audio. I got pretty bad 'clicks' when the thing switched. I was doing
>>>My question is:
>>> Is there a good relay/relay circuit that I can use for switching
>>>audio, so that there will be *NO* noise of any kind on the audio lines.
>>
>> Are you switching high level signals or low level signals like pre-amp
>A novel circuit I used to build was a primitive "optical isolator".. It consists
>of a resistive photocell and a lamp, all packaged in a tube. When the lamp is
>off the cell is high resistance. Turn the lamp on and the resistance lowers
I use an H11F1 FET optoisolater to switch microphone level signals.
There is no click, since I put a .1uF cap across the LED. Distortion
measurement are very low with mic level, and they went up to 0.03% at a
+ 14 dB line level. All I did was put the FET in series with one leg
of the balanced line. No hums, pops, just audio jumping out of silence.
The FET runs about 100 million ohms with the LED dark and drops to 150-200
ohms with it on.
Hey, it works, and works well.
Galen Watts, KF0YJ
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8270 | Subject: FORTRAN library for MS-Windows
From: traversmorgan@swell.actrix.gen.nz (Guan Lye Chua)
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Lines: 13
Hi! I will like to know if there is a FORTRAN library for MS-Windows v3+ out
there.
I have several lots of source code written by past A/Ps in MS-FORTRAN, and
recently have needed to port them to MS-Windows... I would like to avoid a
major code-rewrite if possible - maybe a WINDOWS library is all I need?
Please help - reply by E-mail to: traversmorgan@swell.actrix.gen.nz
--
Guan Lye Chua
c/- Travers Morgan (NZ) Ltd, P O Box 11-525, Wellington, NZ.
Tel.: +64 4 471 0303 Fax.: +64 4 471 0353
|
8271 | From: kgrider@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Keith A Grider)
Subject: Remote TEKTRONICS emulation
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 17
Hello,
I am looking for someone to help me with the proceedure for remote login, via
modem not ethernet, to our new silicon graphics iris machines. I can log in to
them only as a vt100 terminal regardless of what I am emulating on my end. I
have communication software, kermit, which supports tek 401x and vt102
emulation. The x windows manual lists XTERM as the appropriate command to
change the terminal type. When I try it the reponse is 'unable to open window'
Thanx in advance
Keith Grider
--
__________________________________________________________________________
Keith Grider 'Come on man, let's go do the crimes
kgrider@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Yeah, Lets get sushi, and not pay'
Repo Man
|
8272 | From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: Deir Yassin
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Lines: 21
In article <1993Apr24.023039.1485@cs.rit.edu> bdm@cs.rit.edu (Brendan D McKay) writes:
>In article <1r94f9$ge3@morrow.stanford.edu> AS.VXF@forsythe.stanford.edu (Vic Filler) writes:
>>You have a lot to learn when it comes to historical methodology.
>
>That's true. I try to learn from people who know more than me,
>not from useless farts.
And anyone who doesn't agree with you is, by your own definitions, a
"useless fart". Just like any text that disputes your own "findings"
is always described as "flawed" or "biased". In other words, you
trumpet the things you like and dismiss those that might embarass you.
We've seen you play these games here for a long time.
One thing is for sure: When it comes to "useless farts", you sure know
what you're talking about.
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
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8273 | From: tommy@boole.att.com (Tommy Reingold)
Subject: Re: Improvements in Automatic Transmissions
Reply-To: tommy@boole.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ, USA
Originator: tommy@hoodlum
Keywords: Saturn, Subaru, manual, automatic
Nntp-Posting-Host: hoodlum.l1135.att.com
Lines: 24
hagenjd@wfu.edu (Jeff Hagen) writes:
$ The biggest hurdle for automatics (IMHO) is not shifting speed
$ per se, but rather the transmission's reaction speed when you
$ try to force it to shift manually.
$ [...]
I rented an Oldsmobile Achieva (is that a yuppie name or what?) and a
Nissan Stanza. They both had automatics. I'm a manual transmission
bigot but I have to admit that the transmissions on these cars were
better shifters than I am. And yes, they responded very quickly to
kickdown requests. The Nissan had a tachometer so I was able to figure
out which gear I was in. (The Olds may have also, but I don't
remember.) I believe it shifted all the way down to second at about 50
mph when my foot told it, "No I really want to accelerate quickly."
I would still prefer a manual, but I won't delude myself into thinking
that I can out-accelerate a modern automatic. And I'm very smooth at
shifting but certainly not as good as an automatic.
--
Tommy Reingold
AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
tommy@boole.att.com or att!boole!tommy
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8274 | From: sergei@is.morgan.com (Sergei Poliakoff)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Nntp-Posting-Host: nyis113
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Lines: 19
mchaffee@dcl-nxt07 (Michael T Chaffee) writes:
|> : be valued in terms of money because they are human beings, I submit
|> that they are not human beings.
Such submissions have been made before, e.g. regarding Jews.
In article <1993Apr21.042234.23924@nuscc.nus.sg>, matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Matthew MacIntyre at the National University of Senegal) writes:
|> Absolutely. A scratch on my car bothers me more than the death of any
|> number of scum. All of you feel the same way---you just won't admit it.
|> When are people going to realise that the mere fact that a piece of flesh
|> moves and has the approximate shape of a human being does not in itself
|> mean that it has "rights"?
All you Dirty Harry types, eager to pull a gun on some scum guilty of
scratching your stupid painted metal boxes on wheels : have you ever
KILLED a human to speak so lightly about such matters ?
Sergei
|
8275 | From: "Robert Knowles" <p00261@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Suggestion for "resources" FAQ
In-Reply-To: <C5qKDy.40D@liverpool.ac.uk>
Nntp-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1
Organization: Kupajava, East of Krakatoa
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)
Lines: 34
>DATE: Mon, 19 Apr 1993 15:01:10 GMT
>FROM: Bruce Stephens <bruce@liverpool.ac.uk>
>
>I think a good book summarizing and comparing religions would be good.
>
>I confess I don't know of any---indeed that's why I checked the FAQ to see
>if it had one---but I'm sure some alert reader does.
>
>I think the list of books suffers far too much from being Christian based;
>I agree that most of the traffic is of this nature (although a few Islamic
>references might be good) but I still think an overview would be nice.
One book I have which presents a fairly unbiased account of many religions
is called _Man's Religions_ by John B. Noss. It was a textbook in a class
I had on comparative religion or some such thing. It has some decent
bibliographies on each chapter as a jumping off point for further reading.
It doesn't "compare" religions directly but describes each one individually
and notes a few similarities. But nothing I have read in it could be even
remotely described as preachy or Christian based. In fact, Christianity
mercifully consumes only 90 or so of its nearly 600 pages. The book is
divided according to major regions of the world where the biggies began
(India, East Asia, Near East). There is nothing about New World religions
from the Aztecs, Mayas, Incas, etc. Just the stuff people kill each
other over nowadays. And a few of the older religions snuffed out along
the way.
If you like the old stuff, then a couple of books called "The Ancient Near
East" by James B. Pritchard are pretty cool. Got the Epic of Gilgamesh,
Code of Hammurabi, all the stuff from way back when men were gods and gods
were men. Essential reading for anyone who wishes to make up their own
religion and make it sound real good.
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8276 | From: nelson@seahunt.imat.com (Michael Nelson)
Subject: Re: Protective gear
Nntp-Posting-Host: seahunt.imat.com
Organization: SeaHunt, San Francisco CA
Lines: 15
In article <1993Apr5.151323.7183@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>
>I'm still looking for good gloves, myself,
>as the ones I have now are too loose.
When you find some new ones, I suggest donating the ones
you have now to the Lautrec family in France... <grin>
Michael
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8277 | From: bkph@kauai.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn)
Subject: Re: ATM or Truetype-which to choose?
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
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Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: kauai.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: davidgl@microsoft.com's message of 06 Apr 93 02:37:30 GMT
`In article <1993Apr06.023730.5094@microsoft.com> davidgl@microsoft.com (David Glenn) writes:
...
Again, not true. The characters in a TT or Type 1 font depend on the
maker. If someone converts a Type 1 font to TT they'll only get the
characters in the font of orgin. TT allows for much more flexibility
in this area as well. You can have thousands of glyphs in a TT font
file (Mac/PS/Windows/Unicode char set) and use the characters
appropriate for the particular platform you are running the font on.
Well, yes, both Type 1 and TrueType fonts can contain lots of characters.
And in both cases plain text fonts will be reencoded to Windows ANSI
in Windows, and to Mac standard roman encoding on the Mac.
No difference there between T1 and TT!
And as for fonts with thousands of glyphs, right know these are a liabiliaty
rather than a great new thing. Reason is that a font with 3000 characters
is very large, and if you can only access 224 of them you are paying a heavy
price in downloading time and printer storage. (And at the moment there
is only one program of that uses `partial font downloading')
For instance, all or our fontpack 2 TT fonts have the Mac/Windows
char set in them. The metrics of the fonts are such that if the font
is brought over to the mac the user will have access to the full mac
char set.
Yes and T1 text fonts all have the `ISO Adobe' character set, which is
a superset of Windows ANSI and Macintosh standard roman enocding.
The question is whether you can get at the glyphs. In Windows, for example,
you cannot get at the ligatures `fi' anfd `fl' (both T1 and TT)even though a
font may very well have them.
ANd, while it is somewhat painful to reencode a Type 1 font and to create a
new Windows metric file (PFM) for it, there are utilities out there to allow
you do this. How do I reencode a TrueType font? How can I get at the
`fi' and `fl' ligatures in Windows (or on the Mac)? Are there utilities
that make it possible to circumvent the hard-wired Windows ANSI encoding?
> Regards, 1001-A East Harmony Road
> Bob Niland Suite 503
> Internet: rjn@csn.org Fort Collins CO 80525
> CompuServe: 71044,2124 (303) 223-5209
Berthold K.P. Horn
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
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8278 | From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: VESA LB - what is bus mastering
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
I read an article about the benefits of a VLB motherboard. It said that a
true VLB board supports bus mastering, otherwise it is just as good as an ISA
motherboard.
Doesn't all VLB motherboard support bus mastering? I just bought a 486-33 VLB
and the tech manual does not explicitly state the words "local bus mastering"
but it said it "supports bus master and slave modes". Are these terms
synonymous?
Thanks.
PS. - please reply by e-mail as I don't read this newgroup often.
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8279 | From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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In article <C5K5LC.CyF@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, lfoard@hopper.Virginia.EDU (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
> In article <15378@optilink.com> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2:
# #
# # Male sex survey: Gay activity low
# #
# # A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough
# # examination of American men's sexual practices published since
# # the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2
# # percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and
# # 1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual.
# #
# # The figures on homosexuality in the study released Wednesday
# # by the Alan Guttmacher Institute are significantly lower than
# # the 10 percent figure that has been part of the conventional
# # wisdom since it was published in the Kinsey report.
#
# 1) So what?
Homosexuals lie about the 10% number to hide the disproportionate
involvement of homosexuals in child molestation. They also lie
about "10%" to keep politicians scared.
# 2) It will be interesting to see the reaction when 2.5million queers
# gather in Washington DC. After all if there are only 6million of
# us then this is an event unprecidented in history...
But many of the people who will be marching aren't homosexuals, but
other members of the leftist agenda.
# #The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners.
# #The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.
#
# Don't forget that 25% had 20 or more partners....
Not surprising. Remember, that study includes homosexuals as well.
# #Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson,
# #and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that
# #homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general
# #male population.
#
# And what did this study show for number of sexual contacts for those
# who said they where homosexual? Or is that number to inconvient for
# you....
It wasn't published.
# #It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for
# #straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically
# #how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are.
#
# Fuck off
Typical homoseuxal response.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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8280 | From: rda771v@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (A.B. Wuysang)
Subject: Re: exit codes (dos--sorry for wrong group : (
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Lines: 48
In article <1993Apr19.170631.17598@seas.gwu.edu> louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis) writes:
>
>Hey now. First of all, sorry to post this DOS question in a WINDOWS
>group, but I'm in kinda a hurry, so I can't scramble to find the dos
>groups' names.
>
>Anyway, anyone know where I ccan find the exit codes to DOS commands?
There are 3 alternatives:
1. You can try to write a small C program something like:
int my_int_var;
my_int_var = system("command");
and display my_int_var value (which is the exit code of the command).
2. Or use 4dos.com instead of command.com (it has built in move command)
you can also get any program exist code by using the exec function
of 4dos:
c:\>echo %@exec[command]
will display the exit code of the command.
3. Get DOS 6, not worth buying if you already have QEMM/PCTools/Norton,
and you only need the move utility.
>the manual doesn't seem to have all of them. I'm particularly looking
>for COPY, in order to make a "move" batch file, such that if the file
>wasn't coppied properly, it won't be deleted.
>
>
>please e'mail louray@seas.gwu.edu
>Thanks, I.A,
>Mickey
>--
>pe-|| || MICHAEL PANAYIOTAKIS: louray@seas.gwu.edu
>ace|| || ...!uunet!seas.gwu.edu!louray
>|||| \/| *how do make a ms-windows .grp file reflect a HD directory??*
>\\\\ | "well I ain't always right, but I've never been wrong.."(gd)
+---------------------------------------------------+
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| Digitech Student |
| Monash University (Clayton) |
| Melbourne, Australia |
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8281 | Organization: Penn State University
From: <DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Clinton wants National ID card, aka USSR-style "Internal Passport"
<C5JIF8.I4n@boi.hp.com> <1993Apr16.022926.27270@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
<C5KsE0.5px.1@cs.cmu.edu> <1993Apr19.162137.1306@hsh.com>
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In article <1993Apr19.162137.1306@hsh.com>, paul@hsh.com (Paul Havemann) says:
>
>In article <C5KsE0.5px.1@cs.cmu.edu>, tsmith+@cs.cmu.edu (Tom Smith) writes:
>> In article <1993Apr16.022926.27270@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> U
>fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.ED
>(Frank Crary) writes:
>>>In article <C5JIF8.I4n@boi.hp.com> slack@boi.hp.com (David Slack) writes:
>>>>The idea of the card is bull in and of its self, but I'm curious to know,
>do
>>>>they plan on making it a requirement to *always* have it on you, or is it
>>>>only going to be required to be *presented* when trying to ge medical aid?
>>>
>>>This, at least, has already been determined: The Blue Cross medical
>>>coverage for all federal employees is a good model for a future
>>>national system. To get emergency medical care, anyone so insured
>>>must always carry their Blue Cross card. Before entering a hospital,
>>>you must notify Blue Cross, or they will refuse to pay your bills.
>>>In an emergency, where you must be treated before notifying them,
>>>you must inform them within 24 hours or (if you are unable to do
>>>so for medical reasons) the hospital must. Failing to do so within
>>>24 hours means they will not cover the hospitalization. In you need
>>>your card to notify them (and without the card, the hospital certainly
>>>wouldn't know they had to.) Therefore, you are required to carry
>>>the card at all times, or do without emergency medical coverage.
>>>
>> Which works fine until you end up in the hospital because you were hit on
>the
>> head and your wallet, with your insurance card, is stolen. This happened to
>> me, and it took six months to sort the mess out. These sorts of plans sound
>> nice at first, but in the end they just create a lot of paperwork and
>> bureaucracy to deal with all the checking and filing they involve.
>>
>> Tom the non hacker
>
>Whoa! Have a care what you say, Tom. The _obvious_ answer to that problem
>is to tatoo your National I.D. Number on you -- say, your forearm -- so you
>can never leave home without it. Hell, it worked once before...
>
>And that brings us back to my original, sarcasm-laden post: where's the
>outcry from the liberal sector over the National ID Card? My God, if some
>conservative had proposed this -- plus Clinton's "National Police" proposal
>-- the liberals would be shrieking "Sieg Heil!" and "Police State"!
>
>You self-styled liberals ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Hypocrites!
I don't know what you watch, but I saw a spokesman for the ACLU voice
opposition to this idea on NBC the very first night.
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8282 | From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Matthew MacIntyre at the National University of Senegal)
Subject: Re: Opel owners?
Organization: National University of Singapore
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X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
By the way, what do people think about the Opel CAlibra?
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8283 | From: f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
Subject: Re: Educational Pricing
Article-I.D.: jaguar.1993Apr15.134938.1
Organization: Washington State University
Lines: 27
In article <C5Iz7n.Kyv@cs.dal.ca>, hayes@ug.cs.dal.ca (Kevin B. Hayes) writes:
>>you can find retail that is within the price of a keyboard of educational
>>prices.
I would be very wary of retail outlets selling as cheap as educational prices!
I went for a retailer, actually mail order (CDA computers), because its price
was better thant the campus computer store. I found out why later on when I
tried to get a repair done at an Apple registered repair center - the CPU was a
resale. The serial number had been removed and replaced with a non-standard
number (probably from CDA computers). Consequently, the Apple repair man could
not do ANY warrenty repairs. So I ended up with just a 90day warrenty from CDA
over the Apple 12month warrenty. Boy, was I pi**ed! Moral of the story, CAVEAT
EMPTOR.
However, if you go with a reliable, trustworthy mail order firm (if they exist
- maybe someone could enlighten us with their experiences), you will probably
get a better price than your local educational outlet simply because mail order
out of state does not REQUIRE sales tax yet. Though for how much longer remains
to be seen. The addition in sales tax on a CPU purchase will probably wipe out
an educational discount. Again CAVEAT EMPTOR, some mail order companies DO
include sales tax on purchases even if they are out of state, so check!
Richard.
\\\\/ Richard J Appleyard f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
/o o\ Washington State University
( ) ) Voice (509) 335-7728 Fax (509) 335-9688
\_o_/ "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
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8284 | From: bafta@cats.ucsc.edu (Shari L Brooks)
Subject: Re: Into Infinity?(WAS:Re: *Doppelganger* (was Re: Vulcan?)
Organization: University of California - Santa Cruz
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NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu
Summary: me too!
Keywords: cheesy science fiction
In article <1993Apr18.171148.6367@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus
Lindroos INF) writes:
>Later on, the Andersons tried to shed their reputation as creators of some
>of the worst pseudo-scientific shows in TV history by flying "Into Infinity."
>This was a one-off thing done as part of BBC's "educational SF" series "The
>Day After Tomorrow." The Anderson episode dealt with a spaceship capable of
>reaching the speed of light ("lightship Altares"), the four-man crew
>eventually journeyed into a black hole and ended up on the far side of the
>galaxy (I think). I saw this as a 9-year-old back in 1976 and liked it very
>much, but then again I was a fan of SPACE:1999 so I guess I was easily
>satisfied in those days:-)
Wow. I was beginning to think that I had made that up. I remember that
movie (it was about 1.5 hours long). I don't think they ended up anywhere
in the known universe.
I remember they got a message halfway out to Proxima Centauri, that Earth
transmitted a day after they launched, timed to catch up with them at the
halfway point. I thought it was neat, I think I was all of 10 at the time.
>Does anyone know if "Into Infinity" has been released on video? I have some
>SPACE:1999 shows on VHS and know that Thunderbirds etc. also are available in
>England.
Space:1999 has just come out with 4 episodes released in American stores.
I will look for the Into Infinity show, I never did know that was the
name of it, I thought the show was called "the day after tomorrow", and
that was it.
--
If you blow fire against the wind, take care to not get the smoke in your eyes.
Big & Growly Dragon-monster | bafta@cats.ucsc.edu
--------> shari brooks <-------- | brooks@anarchy.arc.nasa.gov
The above opinions are solely my own.
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8285 | From: drmsr@cislabs.pitt.edu (Marc S Rosenthal)
Subject: CASIO B.O.S.S. For Sale
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Lines: 8
I have a CASIO B.O.S.S. SF-9500 Digital Dairy/organizer for sale.
The unit has 64 kb with the expansion card slot. Very good condition.
Asking $110.00 plus shipping.
Marc
drmsr+@pitt.edu
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8286 | From: bh437292@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Basil Hamdan)
Subject: Re: was:Go Hezbollah!
Reply-To: bh437292@lance.colostate.edu
Nntp-Posting-Host: parry.lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University
Lines: 13
In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
|> In article <Apr15.175334.72079@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes:
[.....]
|> Your view of this entire matter is far too serenely one-sided and
|> selectively naive.
Oooh... now THAT hurts. I will not suffer you through more naive
and one-sided views of mine. Please skip my articles in the future
Oh Wise Tim, and have a good day.
Basil
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8287 | From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: The Role of the National News Media in Inflaming Passions
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: ca
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In article <1qjtmjINNq45@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, carlos@beowulf.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion) writes:
> I have come to the conclusion that the TV stations here in LA
> WANT a riot to happen when the verdict comes in.
Why is this surprising? Then the _Times_ can get a few more
Pulitzers the same way they did last year.
--
Michael Thomas (mike@gordian.com)
"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."
-- Hobbes to Calvin
USnail: 20361 Irvine Ave Santa Ana Heights, Ca, 92707-5637
PaBell: (714) 850-0205 (714) 850-0533 (fax)
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8288 | From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Thrush ((was: Good Grief! (was Re: Candida Albicans: what is it?)))
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Lines: 34
In article <21APR199308571323@ucsvax.sdsu.edu> mccurdy@ucsvax.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.) writes:
>Dyer is beyond rude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't threaten to rip your lips off, did I?
Snort.
>There have been and always will be people who are blinded by their own
>knowledge and unopen to anything that isn't already established. Given what
>the medical community doesn't know, I'm surprised that he has this outlook.
Duh.
>For the record, I have had several outbreaks of thrush during the several
>past few years, with no indication of immunosuppression or nutritional
>deficiencies. I had not taken any antobiotics.
Listen: thrush is a recognized clinical syndrome with definite
characteristics. If you have thrush, you have thrush, because you can
see the lesions and do a culture and when you treat it, it generally
responds well, if you're not otherwise immunocompromised. Noring's
anal-retentive idee fixe on having a fungal infection in his sinuses
is not even in the same category here, nor are these walking neurasthenics
who are convinced they have "candida" from reading a quack book.
>My dentist (who sees a fair amount of thrush) recommended acidophilous:
>After I began taking acidophilous on a daily basis, the outbreaks ceased.
>When I quit taking the acidophilous, the outbreaks periodically resumed.
>I resumed taking the acidophilous with no further outbreaks since then.
So?
--
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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8289 | From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Subject: Re: For JOHS@dhhalden.no (3) - Last
Nntp-Posting-Host: bmdhh299
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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: un021432@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
: >DUCATI3.UUE
: >QUUNCD Ver. 1.4, by Theodore A. Kaldis.
: >BEGIN--cut here--CUT HERE--Part 3
: >MG@NH)C1M+AV4)I;^**3NYR7,*(.H&"3V'!X12(&E+AFKIN0@APYT;C[#LI2T
This GIF was GREAT!! I have it as the backdrop on my Apollo thingy and many
people stop by and admire it. Of course I tell them that I did it myself....
It's far too much trouble to contact archive sites to get stuff like this, so
if anybody else has any good GIFs, please, please don't hesitate to post them.
Is the bra thing still going?
--
Nick (the Idiot Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford No Bras
M'Lud.
___ ___ ___ ___
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' ` ` ' ' ` ` ' Currently incarcerated at BNR,
___ ___ ___ ___ Maidenhead, The United Kingdom.
|"_"| |"_"| |"_"| |"_"| npet@bnr.ca '86 BMW K100RS "Kay"
` ' ' ` ` ' ' ` Pres. PBWASOH(UK), BS 0002
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8290 | From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Market or gov failures
Article-I.D.: mksol.1993Apr6.133130.8998
Distribution: sci
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Lines: 52
In <C4tCL8.7xI.1@cs.cmu.edu> 18084TM@msu.edu (Tom) writes:
>[Fred saying that gov coercive poser is necessary for any space program]
>I reply;
>>>BTW, Fred, you've really crossed the border, since you admit that the ideas
>>>you support can only be carried out with coercive power. Now that's really
>>>f***in' intolerant, so get off yer high horse about tolerance.
>Fred replies;
>>No, Tommy, I "admit" that there are such things as 'market failures'
>>which necessitate intervention by other than capitalist forces to
>>correct.
>I guess your understanding of this 'market failure' should be classified
>under Phil's 'economics on the level of 19th century medicine', since you
>apparently completely ignored that this 'market failure' can as easily,
>or even much more easily, be attributed to "government intervention
>failure". So, in addition to a strong moral argument against what you
>propose, there is also a strong utilitarian argument, namely that gov's
>destruction of wealth through confiscastory taxation and redistribution
>on a major scale has made significant private capital investments harder
>to make.
I note that you make no such case as you claim can be 'even more
easily made'. Yes, the argument can (and has) been made that current
government policy creates even larger market barriers than there were
in the first place, but there is no such term as 'government failure',
since the government can change policies whenever it pleases. The
market doesn't do that and is governed by (relatively) well-understood
forces. This libertopican bilge about 'moral arguments' about
taxation, etc., is, at bottom, so much simplistic economic thinking.
It can only be 'justified' by cliche derision of anyone who knows more
about economics than the libertopian -- which is what invariably
happens. Tripe a la Tommy, the new libertopian dish.
>>Get a clue, little boy, and go salve your wounded pride in my not
>>considering you infallible in some other fashion. I'm not interested
>>in your ego games.
>Puh-leese, Fred. This, besides being simply an attempt to be insulting,
>really belongs on private mail. If 'ego-games' are so unimportatnt to
>you, why the insults and this strange negative attatchment for me?
Wherever do you get this inflated idea of your own importance?
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
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8291 | From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ABC coverage
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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<1993Apr20.173536.7678@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
NNTP-Posting-Host: po3.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <1993Apr20.173536.7678@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
Gerald Olchowy writes:
>Clement, although he has a pleasant personality (aggravatingly pleasant
>in my opinion), is a terrible
>analyst, because he is almost alway wrong...the prototypical example
>being New Jersey's first goal last Sunday.
>
>I grew up with Dick Irvin doing color beside Danny Gallivan...I knew
>did Irvin, Dick Irvin was a friend of mine...Bill Clement you aren't
>any Dick Irvin.
>
>As long as the teams involved do not include the US national team or
>the New York Rangers, I'd take John Davidson over Bill Clement any
day.
Personality means something to me. That is exactly why I like Clement
(and Emrick). On the other hand, JD is a pompous, bull-headed, arrogant
know-it-all. He's a real turn-off (which is exactly what I do when he's
on). One complaint I do have about Clement is that he sometimes talks
too much. If I wanted that I'd listen to Tim McGarver doing a baseball
game.
Mom.
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8292 | From: gerhard@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Gerhard Fohler)
Subject: phone number of wycliffe translators UK
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Lines: 15
Sorry for bothering with a request almost irrelevant to anyone except for me:
Could some kind soul provide me with the phone number of
wycliffe center
horsley green high wycomb
bucks hp 14 3 xl
I want to surprise a friend of mine staying there, but I don't have the number.
thanks a lot in advance
Gerhard
[Obviously email response is best. What do people think of requests
like this? Unless things are very different in the UK and US, it should
be possible to find this out by calling what we call "information".
The netwide cost of a posting is fairly significant. --clh]
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8293 | From: jeq@lachman.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: GGRRRrrr!! Cages double-parking motorc
Nntp-Posting-Host: birdie.i88.isc.com
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Lines: 27
In article <1qjmf6$d0i@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 34211@castle.ed.ac.uk, wbg@festival.ed.ac.uk (W Geake) writes:
>>
>>Ultra sticky labels printed with your
>>favourite curse are good - even our local hospitals use them instead of
>>wheel clamps, putting one (about A5 size) on each window of the cage.
>
>An apartment complex where I used to live tried this, only they put the
>thing over the driver's window, "so they couldn't miss it." A friend
>damned near wrecked on the way home one night, her vision blocked by
>the sticker. I suggested to the manager the ENORMOUS liability they
>were assuming by pulling that stunt. She claimed it was the driver who
>was at fault for illegally parking in the first place. That would
>probably be good for a laugh or two in court, before they found her
>liable for $Serious.
>
>Be careful about putting stickers on cages' windows.
Yeah, make darn sure you cover all the glass, so the driver can't
reasonably expect to be able to drive with the things on the car.
--
Jonathan E. Quist jeq@lachman.com Lachman Technology, Incorporated
DoD #094, KotPP, KotCF '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep" Naperville, IL
__ There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
\/ followed by the words "Daddy! Yay!"
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8294 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: Objective morality (was Re: <Political Atheists?)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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NNTP-Posting-Host: lloyd.caltech.edu
livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>Humans have "gone somewhat beyond" what, exactly? In one thread
>you're telling us that natural morality is what animals do to
>survive, and in this thread you are claiming that an omniscient
>being can "definitely" say what is right and what is wrong. So
>what does this omniscient being use for a criterion? The long-
>term survival of the human species, or what?
Well, that's the question, isn't it? The goals are probably not all that
obvious. We can set up a few goals, like happiness and liberty and
the golden rule, etc. But these goals aren't inherent. They have to
be defined before an objective system is possible.
>How does omniscient map into "definitely" being able to assign
>"right" and "wrong" to actions?
It is not too difficult, one you have goals in mind, and absolute
knoweldge of everyone's intent, etc.
>>Now you are letting an omniscient being give information to me. This
>>was not part of the original premise.
>Well, your "original premises" have a habit of changing over time,
>so perhaps you'd like to review it for us, and tell us what the
>difference is between an omniscient being be able to assign "right"
>and "wrong" to actions, and telling us the result, is.
Omniscience is fine, as long as information is not given away. Isn't
this the resolution of the free will problem? An interactive omniscient
being changes the situation.
>>Which type of morality are you talking about? In a natural sense, it
>>is not at all immoral to harm another species (as long as it doesn't
>>adversely affect your own, I guess).
>I'm talking about the morality introduced by you, which was going to
>be implemented by this omniscient being that can "definitely" assign
>"right" and "wrong" to actions.
>You tell us what type of morality that is.
Well, I was speaking about an objective system in general. I didn't
mention a specific goal, which would be necessary to determine the
morality of an action.
keith
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8295 | From: victorf@babbage.seas.ucla.edu (Victor Friedman)
Subject: Re: Apartment in Moscow for Rent!!!
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles
Lines: 19
In article <1993Apr7.134501.4632@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> vsloutsk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Vladimir Sloutsky) writes:
>
> Apartment for rent in downtown Moscow!!!
>
>2- room furnished apartment in a very nice location. 5 minutes walk to
>Belorusskaya subway station. Walking distance to Kremlin, major shopping
>centers, theaters, restaurants, and government buildings.
>
Hmmm... Interesting. What do you mean by WALKING distance? I lived in
Moscow for 21 years, and if I am 5 minutes walk to Belorusskaya
subway station, I CANNOT be walking distance to Kremlin. Unless
1 hour of walking is what you mean. By the way, what is
the price? I may plan a trip there (not sure yet, though) in
late summer.
Vick
(victorf@seas.ucla.edu)
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8296 | From: rhockins@enrico.tmc.edu (Russ)
Subject: Re: To be, or Not to be [ a Disaster ]
Distribution: na
Organization: /etc/organization
Lines: 46
In article <philC5Ht85.H48@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
>
>Not at all. You are apparently just another member of the Religious Left.
>
Not at all. I am not a member of the Religious Left, Right, or even
Center. In fact I don't consider myself very religious at all [ this will
probably result in flames now :) ]. In fact Phil, you should leave
religion out of it. It just clouds the issue.
>Show me all these environmental "disasters". Most of them aren't. And the
>natural disasters we have had individually far outweigh the man-made ones.
How typical. So you think we shouldn't avoid these 'events' [ I shall
refrain from the word disaster since it seems to upset you so much. :( ]
when we can. In case you didn't realize it, the natural disasters [ oops,
sorry events ] you are refering to we have no control over. Man-made
ones we do.
I guess you missed the show on Ch 20 earlier this week about the disaster
[ oops there I go again... I meant to say event ] on the Exxon Valdez.
Just a natural every day occurance to spread oil on 300 Miles of beach. I
would like to know which natural event [ hey I remembered not to say disaster ]
that would be similar to this.
>Most of your so-called disasters (Love Canal, Times Beach, TMI) aren't
>disasters at all.
Hmm, I suppose you could be right. They are as natural as a tree, or a
sunrise. NOT !
>So look, if you want to worship trees (or owls or snails or whatever), fine, do
>so. But DON'T try to push the scaredness of YOUR religious off onto me.
>
So look, if you want to worship a oil slick ( or toxic waste dump or live
in a house that has a cesspool in the front yard ), fine, you have my
permission to do so [ yea right like you need MY permission... ], it just
won't be in the neighborhood where I live. But DON'T try to push your
shortsighted tunnelvision views off on the rest of us.
--
| Russell Hockins | There are people who believe that there is |
| Innovative Interfaces, Inc. | no such thing as an environmental disaster.|
| | Pretty weird... ain't it? |
| My own opinions no one elses | packet : ka6foy @ ki6yk.#nocal.ca.na.usa |
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8297 | From: mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee)
Subject: Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews?
Organization: Royal Roads Military College, Victoria, B.C.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 21
In article <9601@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, rjl+@pitt.edu (Richard J. Loether) writes:
|>
|> Yes, of course, as in Matthew 10:34-35 "Do not suppose that I have come to
|> bring peace to the earth; it is not peace I have come to bring but a sword..."
|> :
Remember the armor of God? The sword that Christians wield is the
Word of God, the Bible.
God be with you,
Malcolm Lee :)
|> RJL
|> --
|> Rich Loether Snail mail: University of Pittsburgh The Ideas:
|> EMail: rjl+@pitt.edu Computing and Info Services Mine,
|> Voice: (412) 624-6429 600 Epsilon Drive all
|> FAX : (412) 624-6426 Pittsburgh, PA 15238 Mine.
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8298 | From: alung@megatest.com (Aaron Lung)
Subject: Re: IC Packages
Organization: Megatest Corporation
Lines: 58
In article <1993Apr16.142715.12613@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> seema@madvlsi.columbia.edu (Seema Varma) writes:
>Hi,
> I am looking for some help in choosing a package
>for a high-speed silicon ADC (100Mhz) currently being
>fabricated. This is a PhD research project and I have to test
>the chip at speed on a PCB. I expect to have roughly 100
>packaged circuits and will do DC, low-speed and high-speed
>testing using 3 different set-ups for the test chip.
>
> I know for sure that a DIP will not work
>(the long lead lines have too high an inductance).
>Getting a custom-made package is too expensive, so
>I am trying to choose between a flatpak and a
>leadless chip carrier. The flatpack would be hard
>to test since it has to be soldered on to the test
>setup and I would spend loads of time soldering
>as I kept changing the test chip. The leadless chip
>carrier sockets also have long lead lines and may
>not work at high speeds.
>
> Does anyone out there have experience/knowledge
>of this field ? I would greatly appreciate help! Any ideas/
>names of companies manufacturing holders/sockets/packages
>would help.
>
>P.S. The multi-layer fancy GaAs packages seem like a bit
>of overkill(?)
>
> --- Seema Varma
You didn't mention whether or not cost is an issue. Where
exactly are you running 100MHz?? THe digital side? TTL?
ECL? We run 200MHz and 100MHz all over our IC test equipment
all day long in the ECL domain, and we use DIP's along
with PLCC's, 25mil and 20mil pitch 256pin QFP's to name
a few. I don't see a problem in packaging as long
as you adhere to sound engineering practices.
A good source of information is Motorola's MECL System Design
Handbook. The latest ed. is dated 2/88. That is considered
to be one of the *bibles* in high-speed design.
The very fact that you need to build a test fixture means
you're most likely going to need a socket. It in itself
has far more inductance per pin than the package you are
testing, not to mention any impedance discontinuities. I
don't see the big concern over the packaging because it
probably isn't going to make that much difference
If you're trying to get TTL to run at 100MHz, have fun...
TTL was never designed to run in a 100MHz environment.
:-(
aaron
P.S. My opinions have nothing to do with my company...the
standard disclaimer applies.
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8299 | From: dduff@col.hp.com (Dave Duff)
Subject: Re: Gun Control: proud to be a Canuck
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
Lines: 11
NNTP-Posting-Host: fajita19.cs.itc.hp.com
Does anyone really believe the Swiss have had no war within their borders
because every adult male owns a rifle? I'm a great admirer of the Swiss, but
500 years of peace on their turf has zilch to do with gun ownership. Can you
picture Hitler, with Panzers and Focke-Wulfs poised on the border, losing
sleep over a few thousand expert rifleman? Sure.
Hitler stayed out of Switzerland because the Swiss run the money in this
world. We'd do well to emulate them on that and forget about getting more
rifles on the street. Let's disband the NRA and start a National Investment
Banking Association, replete with red and black sticker for the back window
of Bubba's Mercedes 600! We could fire Charlton Heston and get Paul Volcker
for a spokesman.
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