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From: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton) Subject: Re: A question about 120V Distribution: world Organization: Ozone Online Operations, Inc., DBA The Ozone Hole BBS Reply-To: gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (Gerald Belton) Lines: 38 >>SO.. Here's my question. It seems to me that I'd have the >>same electrical circuit if I hooked the neutral jumper from the >>neutral over to the ground screw on new 'three prong' grounding >>outlets. What's wrong with my reasoning here? >First, go to the local hardware store and pick up a copy of "Wiring >Simplified" by H.L. Richter. Now if your house is wired with metal >conduit, you don't need a seperate ground wire (assuming the house >is wired correctly and the pipes are connected to a cold water >pipe in your basement). The outlets that have a neutral hooked to >the ground screw seem wrong. Anyone else think so? Back in the 70's I was a service technician for a cash register company. The cash registers used microprocessor circuits and back then they were VERY susceptible to electrostatic discharge and line noise. The biggest problems came from outlets that were not properly grounded. In almost every place we went to do an installation, we found outlets with the ground connected to the neutral. For 99.9% of the things you can plug into one of these, they work fine. For our cash registers they were a nightmare -- line noise tended to scramble the memory periodically. With modern electronics using switching power supplies this should be less of a problem. Even the company I used to work for is no longer recommending a dedicated line with a seperate ground for their equipment. I imagine if you check MOST household wiring you will find that the ground and neutral are connected. Although not ideal, it should be o.k. for most applications. --- . SLMR 2.1 . My reality check just bounced. ---- The Ozone Hole BBS * A Private Bulletin Board Service * (504)891-3142 3 Full Service Nodes * USRobotics 16.8K bps * 10 Gigs * 100,000 Files SKYDIVE New Orleans! * RIME Network Mail HUB * 500+ Usenet Newsgroups Please route all questions or inquiries to: postmaster@ozonehole.com
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From: glp@phillson.cray.com (Gordon Phillips) Subject: Lyon lamb minivas-2 control of abekas A66 Originator: glp@phillson Lines: 12 Nntp-Posting-Host: phillson.cray.com Organization: Cray Research, Inc. We have a minivas-2 and we want to record to an Abekas A66. We have most of the functions working but when we go to set up a record the minivas hangs. We are sending the abekas SMPTE time code. Does anyone have code we can compare to what we have done and is there and ftp site for minivas and abekas code. Gordon Phillips glp@cray.com -- Gordon Phillips - glp@cray.com
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From: donb@netcom.com (Don Baldwin) Subject: Re: 2ND AMENDMENT DEAD - GOOD ! Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 29 In article <1993Apr18.001319.2340@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes: >The bulk of firarems are used against unworthy and unnesessary >opponents ... those who posessa a cool jakcet you want, those who >would argue with you about a parking space, those who would >take your woman. In short, trivial and worthless causes. That's open for debate. Certainly, an excessive number of people are murdered every year but people also do save innocent lives with firearms. The media just don't tell us when it happens... >Too much of this has ruined you cause. There is no recovery. >In the near future, federal martials will come for your arms. I think there are more of us than there are federal marshalls... >No one will help you. You are more dangerous, to their thinking, >than the 'criminal'. This is your own fault. Crap. It's simplistic thinking on the part of feather-headed dolts. >The 2nd amendment is dead. Accept this. Find another way. Nuts. don
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From: mty015@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Colin Paterson) Subject: Sound Blaster MIDI Nntp-Posting-Host: cc_sysk Organization: The society for the terminally hard of thinking Lines: 30 Hi, I'm currently in the process of writing a number of PD programs for the sound blaster. The first of which is a CMF voice editor which is hopefully going to be available soon (as soon as I can get it to an FTP site). Anyway the next stage is to use the midi port to enter music and play the FM synth remotely. The problem is that I have little or no info on the SB midi port. I have tried using the Sound blaster freedom project routines, however this just results in the port locking after a couple of accesses and loss the of note velocity data byte. I am using Turbo C and would be grateful for any info or source fragments may help. When I was in Berlin this summer I saw a book which seemed to have all this information, but my German is poor to say the least, if anyone has this book could they please mail me. My second request for help concerns standard file formats (how can a file format be standard if you keep it secret ?) I need to know the file format for instrument bank files *.BNK and Roland music files *.ROL. Finally does anyone have a source for displaying PCX or GIF files to EGA or VGA monitors. Please Help, You know it makes sense. Colin
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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Surviving Large Accelerations? Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 13 In article <EfpX7WS00Uh7QAoP1S@andrew.cmu.edu> Amruth Laxman <al26+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >... here's my question finally - Are 45g accelerations in >fact humanly tolerable? - with the aid of any mechanical devices of >course. If these are possible, what is used to absorb the acceleration? This sounds a bit high to me. Still higher accelerations have been endured *very briefly*, during violent deceleration. If we're talking sustained acceleration, I think 30-odd gees has been demonstrated using water immersion. I doubt that any of this generalizes to another order of magnitude. -- All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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From: tjz6624@zeus.tamu.edu (ZINGALE, THOMAS J) Subject: Re: 86 chevy sprint Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services Lines: 51 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <wfnMBJG00WBOE3L2c0@andrew.cmu.edu>, Srinagesh Gavirneni <sg48+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes... >I have a 86 chevy sprint with a/c and 4doors. It's odometer turned 90k >and the sensor light started blinking. I went to the dealer and he said >it was a maintenance light saying I need to change the Oxygen sensor. He >said, It is to be changed every 30k, but since I bought the car when it >had 77k, I don't know if the same thing happened at 30k and 60k. He >quoted $198 for the part and $50 to install it. The part cost $30 >outside, but the mechanic I went to could not fix it saying the sensor >is placed too deep in the engine parts. He suggested I wait till it >malfunctions before I do anything. If anyone out there owns a chevy >sprint, I want to know how they got their Oxygen sensors changed. Also, >did you face any problem with fixing it without the dealer's help. Also, >what are the results of the oxygen sensor malfunction. > Any help would be greatly apprecisted > Thanks > Nagesh I have owned my Sprint from the beginning and that sensor light comes on every 30K to let you know it's time for a check up. When that light goes on, I just take it to the delaer tell them "It's that time" and they work on it for 4 hou and you pay $5 for parts and $100 for labor. (Ahh...what they get for labor) I currently have about 95K on my Sprint and of all the times I took it in for service, I never say on the payment sheet anything about the replacement of the Oxygen sensor. What the heck is an Oxygen sensor? As far an I know of, I have never had that thing replaced in my car and the car is purring like a kitten. Now, I don't have a/c (Mother Nature does that for me :-) ) and that might have something to do with it, but I still never heard of an Oxygen sensor. The only MAJOR service job I have had on my car (besides getting the tires replaced if you want to call that a service job) was getting the Rotor, Distributor and Gasket replaced. And that was all done within the past 2 months. What I do at 30K is have a good tune-up, let them replace what ever they need to, pay the bill (about $125) and go home and don't worry about the car for another 30K. Oh, I just remembered something. If that little sensor light bothers you, in the fuse box right below the turn-signal lever up against the dash, there is a swith on the right side. Flip that switch and the light will go off. I do that so that little light won't annoy me. If you can't find it, look it up in the car manuel. I hope that I have helped a little and good luck with the _Oxygen sensor_? - Thomas - ****************************************************************************** * E-Mail Address: * "Give me an an army of West Point, * * TJZ6624@ZEUS.TAMU.EDU * graduates and I'll win a battle... * * * Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, * * "Creator of MOT POWER!" * and I'll win a war." * * * - Gen. George S. Patton * ******************************************************************************
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From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) Subject: Re: Fighting the Clipper Initiative Organization: DSI/USCRPAC Lines: 32 In article <1r0nov$p3e@access.digex.net> steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich) writes: > > 1. American manufacturers peddling Cripple Chips with a secret untested > algorithm whose keys are held by people with a history of untrustworthy > behavoir, or > er, excuse me but since the escrow agencies aren't yet chosen, how can you say they have a "history of untrustworthy behavoir[sic]"? I'm sure each of us can think of agencies without such a history. Price Waterhouse has kept the secret of the Academy Awards for many years, even in the face of an aggressive press. The Federal Reserve Open Market Committee has successfully kept decisions from leaking for the statutory period until publication. Even the Department of Agriculture has successfully kept crop forecasts from leaking prematurely. Frankly, I'd trust the above (not the D of A, of course since they might be subject to political pressure) far sooner than the ACLU, EFF, or CPSR which, though not exactly government apologists, have no particular track record for internal security that I know of. David -- David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of our information, errors and omissions excepted.
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From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (Was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...) Summary: But how do restrain unpleasant impulses? Organization: Free the Barbers, Inc. Lines: 46 Nntp-Posting-Host: thor.isc-br.com In article <SLAGLE.93Apr15000157@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com writes: >In article <1993Apr13.215245.2916@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes: > >> In article <1993Apr13.083449.1058@cbnewse.cb.att.com> doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey) writes: > >>>... the point is that this law protects no one but the >>>established car dealers or people with enough money to start a >>>fairly big operation all at once. Protecting these folks from >>>competition protects the rest of us from low prices and high >>>quality. > >> An excellent point. But you seem to be missing a more subtle >> point. It is not "the government" that should be the recipient >> of your displeasure, but the established business interests >> that influence and direct government action in this case. > >It is the government that is preventing entry to the market. The >desire of those running established businesses to prevent or >restrict the entry of competitors is an understandable, though >generally unpleasant, human failing. But without a means to act >on this desire, without a government with sufficient power to >restrict the options of the potential competitor, the >anti-competitive desire remains just an unpleasant wish. The >government is the linchpin, so we seek to disengage it so we >don't get the shaft. Once again, Mark, you don't specify the means through which the government is to be prevented from becoming the tool of business interests. As a left-wing, big government, conventional liberal, I'm just as willing as you are to vote against anti-competitive regulations that favor auto dealers. But what I hear from libertarians is a desire to limit incumbents' terms, to weaken government by eliminating its power to enforce antitrust laws, and a desire to eliminate legislator's pay. Each strikes me as a particularly ineffective way to insure that auto dealers and other special interests cannot influence public policy. In fact, they seem clearly designed to accomplish the opposite. jsh > >=Mark -- Steve Hendricks | DOMAIN: steveh@thor.ISC-BR.COM "One thing about data, it sure does cut| UUCP: ...!uunet!isc-br!thor!steveh the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826
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From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) Subject: Re: "Cruel" (was Re: <Political Atheists?) Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu In article <1qnpa6INN8av@gap.caltech.edu> keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes: >>Hanging? Hanging there slowing being strangled would be very >>painful, both physically and psychologicall, I imagine. > >Well, most hangings are very quick and, I imagine, painless. I think this is a misnomer. > >>Firing squad ? [ note: not a clean way to die back in those >>days ], etc. >>All would be considered cruel under your definition. >>All were allowed under the constitution by the founding fathers. > >And, hangings and firing squads are allowed today, too. And, if these >things were not considered cruel, then surely a medical execution >(painless) would not be, either. But, this just shows then that painful execution is not considered "cruel" and unusual punishment. This shows that "cruel" as used in the constitution does NOT refer to whether or not the punishment causes physical pain. Rather, it must be a different meaning. --- " I'd Cheat on Hillary Too." John Laws Local GOP Reprehensitive Extolling "Traditional Family Values."
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From: nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines) Subject: Re: What if the USSR had reached the Moon first? In-Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.uucp's message of Sun, 18 Apr 1993 09:10:51 GMT Originator: nickh@SNOW.FOX.CS.CMU.EDU Nntp-Posting-Host: snow.fox.cs.cmu.edu Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University <1993Apr7.124724.22534@yang.earlham.edu> <dxb105.734495289@virgo> <1993Apr12.161742.22647@yang.earlham.edu> <93107.144339SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <1993Apr18.091051.14496@ke4zv.uucp> Lines: 35 In article <1993Apr18.091051.14496@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes: In article <93107.144339SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes: >This is turning into 'what's a moonbase good for', and I ought not >to post when I've a hundred some odd posts to go, but I would >think that the real reason to have a moon base is economic. > >Since someone with space industry will presumeably have a much >larger GNP than they would _without_ space industry, eventually, >they will simply be able to afford more stuff. If I read you right, you're saying in essence that, with a larger economy, nations will have more discretionary funds to *waste* on a lunar facility. That was certainly partially the case with Apollo, but real Lunar colonies will probably require a continuing military, scientific, or commercial reason for being rather than just a "we have the money, why not?" approach. Ah, but the whole point is that money spent on a lunar base is not wasted on the moon. It's not like they'd be using $1000 (1000R?) bills to fuel their moon-dozers. The money to fund a lunar base would be spent in the country to which the base belonged. It's a way of funding high-tech research, just like DARPA was a good excuse to fund various fields of research, under the pretense that it was crucial to the defense of the country, or like ESPRIT is a good excuse for the EC to fund research, under the pretense that it's good for pan-European cooperation. Now maybe you think that government-funded research is a waste of money (in fact, I'm pretty sure you do), but it does count as investment spending, which does boost the economy (and just look at the size of that multiplier :->). Nick Haines nickh@cmu.edu
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From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) Subject: *Doppelganger* (was Re: Vulcan? No, not Spock or Haphaestus) Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory Lines: 22 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov In article <1qju0bINN10l@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, C.O.EGALON@LARC.NASA.GOV (CLAUDIO OLIVEIRA EGALON) writes: > There was a Science fiction movie sometime ago (I do not remember its > name) about a planet in the same orbit of Earth but hidden behind the > Sun so it could never be visible from Earth. This was known as *Journey to the Far Side of the Sun* in the United States and as *Doppelganger* in the U.K. It was produced by the great team of Gerry and Sylvia Anderson (whose science was usually a bit better than this). It may have been their first production using live actors-- they were better known for their technophilic puppet shows, such as *Supercar*, *Stingray*, and *Thunderbirds*. Later, they went on to do more live-action SF series: *UFO* and *Space: 1999*. The astronomy was lousy, but the lifting-body spacecraft, VTOL airliners, and mighty Portugese launch complex were *wonderful* to look at. Bill Higgins, Beam Jockey | In a churchyard in the valley Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory | Where the myrtle doth entwine Bitnet: HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET | There grow roses and other posies Internet: HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV | Fertilized by Clementine. SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS |
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From: brian@porky.contex.com (Brian Love) Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42 Organization: Xyvision Design Systems Lines: 9 In article <25335@alice.att.com> td@alice.att.com (Tom Duff) writes: >ulrich@galki.toppoint.de wrote: >> Does anyone have any other suggestions where the 42 came from? >Forty-two is six times nine. ...for very small values of six and nine. (Sorry, Tom, I couldn't resist...)
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian V. Hughes) Subject: Re: Adding VRAM to Quadra 800 ? Keywords: VRAM Quadra 800 Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for. Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info Lines: 15 wstuartj@lucky.ecn.purdue.edu (W Stuart Jones) writes: >I want to go from 512K to 1M VRAM on my Quadra 800. How many 512K SIMMS do I >need to buy? None. You need to buy 2 80ns 256k VRAM SIMMs. They cost about $30 each from your favorite memory distributor. >Is the current 512K soldered on the board or do I need to take out the >current VRAM before I add more? The 512k is soldered to the logic board. There are 2 SIMM slots for expansion. -Hades
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Subject: USR 16.8k HST External Mo From: herbert.wottle@cccbbs.UUCP (Herbert Wottle) Reply-To: herbert.wottle@cccbbs.UUCP (Herbert Wottle) Distribution: world Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-1055 Lines: 13 For Sale --- U.S.Robotics 16.8k HST external modem, including power adapter, Users Guide and Quick-Reference Card. $515.00. Call me voice at (513) 831-0162 -- let's talk about it. Herb... --- . QMPro 1.02 42-0616 . Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines.
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From: xor@clotho.acm.rpi.edu (Joe Schwartz) Subject: Re: NUTEK FACES APPLE'S WRATH (article!!!!!!) READ Article-I.D.: rpi.j3g5bwq Organization: MapInfo Corporation, Troy, NY Lines: 28 Nntp-Posting-Host: acm.rpi.edu In article <davea-120493231310@129.228.20.182> davea@xetron.com (David P. Alverson) writes: >I believe Apple has a patent on the region features of QuickDraw. A mac >clone would have to implement regions. This is why Apple's comment was >that >they believe it is not possible to make a Mac clone without infringing >on their patents. They may have other patents like this. Apple has patented their implementation of regions, which presumably includes the internal data structure (which has never been officially documented by Apple). Apple cannot patent the concept of a region. I'm guessing that either NuTek reverse-engineered Apple's internal data structure for regions (I dunno if this would hold up in court), or they came up with their own data structure. If it's the latter, then they won't be able to draw PICT files containing regions. Besides PICT files, there aren't many places where regions are stored on disk. (QuickTime movies, perhaps?) As long as the region isn't being stored on disk and transferred from a Mac to a NuTek clone (or vice versa), it doesn't matter if NuTek uses a completely different internal data structure. I remember reading that Apple also has a patent on their ADB hardware, and that the NuTek clones would therefore be lacking an ADB port. What other patents does Apple have on the Mac? -- Joe Schwartz E-mail: xor@acm.rpi.edu or xor@clotho.acm.rpi.edu MapInfo Corp. 200 Broadway These are my own opinions. Any similarity to the Troy, NY 12180 opinions of MapInfo Corporation is purely coincidental.
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From: n4hy@harder.ccr-p.ida.org (Bob McGwier) Subject: Re: NAVSTAR positions Organization: IDA Center for Communications Research Lines: 11 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: harder.ccr-p.ida.org In-reply-to: Thomas.Enblom@eos.ericsson.se's message of 19 Apr 93 06:34:55 GMT You have missed something. There is a big difference between being in the SAME PLANE and in exactly the same state (positions and velocities equal). IN addition to this, there has always been redundancies proposed. Bob -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert W. McGwier | n4hy@ccr-p.ida.org Center for Communications Research | Interests: amateur radio, astronomy,golf Princeton, N.J. 08520 | Asst Scoutmaster Troop 5700, Hightstown
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From: sclark@epas.utoronto.ca (Susan Clark) Subject: Re: Bay area media (Wings-Leafs coverage) Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS Nntp-Posting-Host: epas.utoronto.ca Lines: 11 Yeah, the news is true...the Leafs lost to the Wings 6-3. Wish I could say I'd seen the whole game but my husband wanted to watch "Young Guns II" on another channel. Sometime between the first time I tuned in and d saw the Leafs tie and the next time I tuned in and heard the score was 5-1, something happened. Please no woofing from Red Wings fans. They're my third favourite team, and if they make it past the Leafs I'll wish them luck. As for Potvin...well, it WAS his fist playoff game. Susan Carroll-Clark Who likes ANYONE Doug Gilmour plays for
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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) Subject: Re: seek sedative information Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX Lines: 18 In article <C5uBrn.F0u@fig.citib.com> ghica@fig.citib.com (Renato Ghica) writes: > >has any one heard of a sedative called "Rhoepnol"? Made by LaRouche, >I believe. Any info as to side effects or equivalent tranquillizers? You probably mean "RoHypnol", a member of the benzodiazepine family, chemical name is flunitrazepam. It is such a strong tranquilizer that it is probably best refered to as a hypnotic, rather than a tranquilizer. Just one pill will knock you on your ass. Side effects may be similar to valium, xanax, serax, librium and other benzodiazepines. -- ============================================================================= Neal Howard '91 XLH-1200 DoD #686 CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX) doh #0000001200 |355o33| neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org Std disclaimer: My opinions are mine, not CompuTrac's. "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890) =============================================================================
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From: bruce@liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens) Subject: Re: Question from an agnostic Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool Lines: 16 >>>>> On 2 May 93 13:53:23 GMT, damon@math.okstate.edu (HASTINGS DAMON TOD) said: > A Christian friend of mine once reasoned that if we were never created, then > we could not exist. Therefore we were created, and therefore there exists a > Creator. > Is this statement considered to be a valid proof by many Christians (and > followers of other religions, I suppose)? [rest deleted] Some variant is quite popular. This, and other arguments, are discussed in John Leslie Mackie's "The Miracle of Theism: arguments for and against the existence of God". Although Mackie ultimately sides with "against", his arguments are, I think, quite fair to both sides. Brief discussions can be found in the alt.atheism FAQs. -- Bruce CMSR, University of Liverpool
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From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) Subject: Re: Space Research Spin Off In-Reply-To: prb@access.digex.com's message of 6 Apr 1993 14:06:57 -0400 Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal. <pgf.734062799@srl03.cacs.usl.edu> <SHAFER.93Apr6094402@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> <1psgs1$so4@access.digex.net> Lines: 38 On 6 Apr 1993 14:06:57 -0400, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) said: Pat> In article <SHAFER.93Apr6094402@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> Pat> shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes: >successful we were. (Mind you, the Avro Arrow and the X-15 were both >fly-by-wire aircraft much earlier, but analog.) > Pat> Gee, I thought the X-15 was Cable controlled. Didn't one of them Pat> have a total electrical failure in flight? Was there machanical Pat> backup systems? All reaction-controlled aircraft are fly-by-wire, at least the RCS part is. On the X-15 the aerodynamic control surfaces (elevator, rudder, etc) were conventionally controlled (pushrods and cables) but the RCS jets were fly-by-wire. |The NASA habit of acquiring second-hand military aircraft and using |them for testbeds can make things kind of confusing. On the other |hand, all those second-hand Navy planes give our test pilots a chance |to fold the wings--something most pilots at Edwards Air Force Base |can't do. Pat> What do you mean? Overstress the wings, and they fail at teh Pat> joints? Navy aircraft have folding or sweeping wings, in order to save space on the hangar deck. The F-14 wings sweep, all the rest fold the wingtips up at a joint. Air Force planes don't have folding wings, since the Air Force has lots of room. -- Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov Of course I don't speak for NASA "A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all." Unknown US fighter pilot
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From: rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen) Subject: Re: Plymouth Sundance/Dodge Shadow experiences? Organization: University of Virginia Distribution: usa Lines: 12 I don't know if some lemons are out there, but from personal experience My brother's has been trouble free. Not one single repair, only regular maintainance. The only work he had done on it was a result of his stupidity... he stopped suddenly in the middle of a left turn on a busy intersection, and was rear-ended. He has a 1989 Plymouth Sundance. I would recomend it, but I would also like to say that if you can wait about six months, ChryCo is coming out with a new car called the Neon, that is built in the same way as the LH's where. Good luck with your desiscion.
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From: ddlin@athena.mit.edu (David D Lin) Subject: Daigle/Kariya Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 2 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: e51-007-12.mit.edu I hear Daigle will eb the first pick next year. What is the word on Kariya??? Anybody ever seen him play on TV???? Is he also entering the draft???
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From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) Subject: Re: Boston Gun Buy Back Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Lines: 18 Re: More on Gun Buybacks The Denver buy back, trading guns for Denver Nuggets tickets was pretty much a bust. Very few guns were turned in. The news tried to hype it but when the best they could do was ".... including a loaded .38..." well, you get the picture. A side note- the news also reported that the guns would be checked for whether or not they were stolen. STOLEN GUNS WILL BE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNERS!!!!! (They say) (Does this have anything to do with the rally on the Capital steps yesterday in support of the RKBA????) Even the rally made the 5 pm news on 3 channels :-) Ron Miller
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From: fls@keynes.econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith) Subject: Re: Braves Pitching UpdateDIR Distribution: usa Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C. Lines: 14 Nntp-Posting-Host: keynes.econ.duke.edu In article <1993Apr14.153137.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> pjtier01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes: > >If the Braves >continue to average 3 runs a game, then 3 is where they will finish. > P. Tierney So, if the Braves run production falls to 1 per game, which is certainly where it's headed (if they're lucky), does that mean they'll finish first? -- @econ.duke.edu fls@econ.duke.edu fls@econ.duke.edu fls@econ.duke. s To my correspondents: My email has been changed. e l My new address is: fls@econ.duke.edu d f If mail bounces, try fls@raphael.acpub.duke.edu u
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From: mcglob@usissc.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Brian.McGloin) Subject: Re: does dos6 defragment?? Reply-To: mcglob@usissc.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Brian.McGloin) Organization: DaytonOH.NCR.COM Lines: 14 In article <1993Apr5.060929.7806@seas.gwu.edu> louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis) writes: > >Well, the subject saysit all: does dos 6 do defragmentation?? > Yes, both dblspaced and non-dblspaced drives can be defragmented. I believe they use Norton's Speedisk. -- Brian T. McGloin | Lift your glasses, friend, with mine NCR Corp. | And raise your hand with me USG/ISS-OLS | I'm England stole, I'm Ireland spent Miamisburg, OH 45342 | I'm an outlawed rapparee
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From: gspira@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Spira) Subject: Re: DAVE KINGMAN FOR THE HALL OF FAME Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci. Lines: 79 (Steve Tomassi) writes: > Hi, baseball fans! So what do you say? Don't you think he deserves it? >I >mean, heck, if Dave Winfield (ho-hum) is seriously being considered for it, >as >is Lee Smith (ha), then why don't we give Dave Kingman a chance? Or Darrell >Evans! Yeah, yeah! After the Hall of Fame takes in them, it can take in >Eddie >Murray and Jeff Reardon. Unfortunately, you seem to lack the ability to rate players. Dave Winfield has had a better career than half the people in the Hall of Fame. Eddie Murray and Darrel Evans are both one of the top 100 players of all time. Lee Smith has had probably the greatest long career of any relief pitcher since 1960, with the possible exception of Gossage. On the other hand, Kingman probably isn't one of the best 750 players of all time. And Reardon, though a good pitcher, isn't in Smith's class career wise. > Well, in any case, I am sick and tired (mostly sick) of everybody >giving >Hall of Fame consideration to players that are by today's standards, >marginal. >Honestly, Ozzie Smith and Robin Yount don't belong there. They're both >shortstops that just hung around for a long time. Big deal. We're talking 2 of the top 50 players of all time here. There probably aren't 5 shortstops in history who were better than these two. > Let's be a little more selective, huh? Stop handing out these honors >so >liberally. Save them for the guys who really deserve it. Face it, if >something >isn't done, there will be little prestige in the Hall of Fame anymore. When >certain individuals believe that Steve Garvey or Jack Morris are potential >candidates, the absurdity is apparent. Garvey sucked. Morris, while a very good pitcher, simply doesn't belong near Cooperstown. Gee, can these guys even compare to >the more likely future Hall of Famers like Kirby Puckett or Nolan Ryan? If Puckett and Ryan (okay, no if there) get into to the Hall, they will be marginal Hall of Famers (unless Puckett keeps hitting like he did last year for a while longer) To put this in perspective, here's a listing of the linear weights values of the careers of the players you mention. In parenthesis is how high they are up on the greatest ever list if they make it. While no one would claim these are perfect rankings, they should give you a good value of these guys' careers as compared to average players. Robin Yount 43.0 (41) Ozzie Smith 42.1 (45) Dave Winfield 40.3 (53) Eddie Murray 37.5 (68) Darrel Evans 35.2 (80) Kirby Puckett 24.3 (180) Nolan Ryan 21.6 (219) Jack Morris 11.8 (478) Dave Kingman 0.4 Steve Garvey -5.8 To give you an idea of how these numbers compare to those in the Hall: Of the 71 eligible players whose career stats equaled 35.0, 64 are in the Hall of Fame. The ones who aren't include 4 19th century players, Ron Santo, Bobby Grich, and Bob Johnson. Of those eligible who score between 30.0 and 34.9, 15 of 25 are in. Of those eligible who score between 25.0 and 29.9, 24 of 44 are in. Greg
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From: speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) Subject: Re: So, do any XXXX, I mean police officers read this stuff? Organization: Louisiana Tech University Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: bhm116e-spc.engr.latech.edu In article <1993Apr20.163629.29153@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> jrlaf@sgi502.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (J. R. Laferriere) writes: >I was just wondering if there were any law officers that read this. I have >several questions I would like to ask pertaining to motorcycles and cops. >And please don't say get a vehicle code, go to your local station, or obvious >things like that. My questions would not be found in those places nor >answered face to face with a real, live in the flesh, cop. >If your brother had a friend who had a cousin whos father was a cop, etc. >don't bother writing in. Thanks. I just gotta ask... What ARE these questions you want to ask an active cop? Working on your DoD qualfications? B-) ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====---- Stolen Taglines... * God is real, unless declared integer. * * I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. * * Black holes are where God is dividing by zero. * * The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. * * Earth is 98% full.... please delete anyone you can. *
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From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) Subject: Re: was: Go Hezbollah! Organization: NYSERNet, Inc. Lines: 21 hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) writes: >Tell me Tim, what are these guerillas doing wrong? Assuming that they are using >civilians for cover, are they not killing SOLDIERS in THEIR country? So, it's okay to use civilians for cover if you're attacking soldiers in your country. (Of course, many of those attacking claim that they aren't Lebanese, so it's not their country.) Got it. I think. Hmm. This is confusing. Could you perhaps repeat your rules explaining exactly when it is permissible to use civilians as shields? Also please explain under what conditions it is permissible for soldiers to defend themselves. Also please explain the particular rules that make it okay for terrorists to launch missiles from Lebanon against Israeli civilians, but not okay for the Israelis to try to defend themselves against those missiles. -- Alan H. Stein astein@israel.nysernet.org
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From: janson@crow.csrv.uidaho.edu (Todd Janson) Subject: FORSALE: Norman Rockwell Organization: University of Idaho, Moscow, Idaho Lines: 21 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: crow.csrv.uidaho.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Okay, okay, Norman himself isn't actually for sale. BUT: I have two Saturday Even Post's, both of which have Norman Rockwell illustrations on the front cover. October 29, 1960 -- with candidate Kennedy on campaign -- has, obviously, a Norman Rockwell of Kennedy on the cover November 5, 1960 -- with candidate Nixon on campaign -- And here we have Nixon. He's not a crook... These are both in very good condition. Let me know if you're interested, and to what tune. ($$) -- *=-------------------------------------------------------------=* * // * * // Todd Janson. No group. Moscow, Idaho * * \\/ * *=-------------------------------------------------------------=*
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From: srihari@cirrus.com (Srihari Shoroff) Subject: Re: Instead of a Saturn SC2, What??? Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc. Distribution: na Lines: 24 In <Ifn=sPO00iV18_A8NZ@andrew.cmu.edu> jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason M. Roth) writes: >>R&T had an article on cars of the SC1 ilk and they liked the Civic Ex, >>the Escort GT and the MX-3 best of all, and the SC1 was way down the >>list except for braking. >I just looked at that article; first of all, this summary is inaccurate; >of 10 cars, the SC1 was 5th, right behind these mentioned and the Suzuki >Swift (!). As has been pointed out, it was a semi-silly comparison; the >Saturn was at least $500 cheaper than the MX-3 and Escort (admittedly >negligible, but an issue), and $1500 (!)less than the Honda. The stated >goal was a base under $12k; the Honda was $500 over, while the SC2 at >the same price was excluded. In other words, they let the best Honda >play, but not the best Saturn. Note that the Saturn did beat the $13k I dont know about the car comparison but as far as the price goes rest assured that the street prices for the MX-3 and Escort and (maybe) even the Honda will be lesser than that of the Saturn you're talking about. All price comparisons I've seen are based on MSRP and of course the saturn dealer will sell the car for sticker price whereas the others will do it way below sticker. Srihari
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From: steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich) Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Lines: 8 Distribution: na NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net You're drifting off topic. In any case, if you check on any of the topics devoted to gun rights issues, you will find ample evidence that the "misinformation" is your assertion that the term "the people" in the Second Amendment has mysteriously taken on a meaning diametrically opposite the meaning of the exact same term in the First and Fourth Amendments.
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From: mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Mau Napoleon) Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris) Nntp-Posting-Host: herky.cs.uiowa.edu Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Lines: 16 From article <1qvgu5INN2np@lynx.unm.edu>, by osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski): > Well, it did not take long to see how consequent some Greeks are in > requesting that Thessaloniki are not called Solun by Bulgarian netters. > So, Napoleon, why do you write about Konstantinople and not Istanbul? > > Marek Osinski Thessaloniki is called Thessaloniki by its inhabitants for the last 2300 years. The city was never called Solun by its inhabitants. Instabul was called Konstantinoupolis from 320 AD until about the 1920s. That's about 1600 years. There many people alive today who were born in a city called Konstantinoupolis. How many people do you know that were born in a city called Solun. Napoleon
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From: khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu (Kevin Hansen) Subject: Re: Scott Erickson Nntp-Posting-Host: x239-16.psych.umn.edu Organization: Minnesota Twin Family Study - Univerity of Minnesota Lines: 38 In article <12718@news.duke.edu> fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Eric Roush) writes: >Path: news1.cis.umn.edu!umn.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!gatech!concert!duke!news.duke.edu!bchm.biochem.duke.edu >From: fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Eric Roush) >Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball >Subject: Scott Erickson >Message-ID: <12718@news.duke.edu> >Date: 5 Apr 93 18:21:18 GMT >Sender: news@news.duke.edu >Organization: Biochemistry >Lines: 13 >Nntp-Posting-Host: bruchner.biochem.duke.edu >USA Today reports that he may be going on the DL >(arm pains of an unspecified nature). > >Further news would be appreciated. > > >------------------------------------------------------- >Eric Roush fierkelab@ bchm.biochem.duke.edu >"I am a Marxist, of the Groucho sort" >Grafitti, Paris, 1968 > >TANSTAAFL! (although the Internet comes close.) >-------------------------------------------------------- Erickson did go on the 15 day DL with a pulled muscle in his left side (near rib cage). He is on until 4/18/93. No news as to who the Twins will bring up. ---------------------------------------------- Kevin Hansen MN Twin Family Study - University of Minnesota (612)626-7224 khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu ---------------------------------------------- Contact: University of Minnesota Women's Basketball "Theory guides, experiment decides" - Izaak M. Kolthoff
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From: charles@tinman.dev.prodigy.com () Subject: Re: multiple desktops Nntp-Posting-Host: tinman Organization: Prodigy Services Company, White Plains, NY Lines: 16 In article <C56BHt.7qF@news.Hawaii.Edu> dmcgee@uluhe.soest.hawaii.edu (Don McGee) writes: > >Is there a free/share( ware) package that will allow multiple >desktops in windows 3.1. What is desired is to have a desk top >for several people that each can personalize by name and choice >of programs etc. Amishware has one included in their package. They were advertising here on the net a couple of weeks ago with a riduculously (That is in a good way, Ted!) low price. Does anyone remember what it was ? -- Charles Emmons | charles@trintex.uucp | These opinions are Prodigy Services Co. | charles%trintex@uunet.uu.net | mine alone, unless White Plains NY 10601 | Voice 914-993-8856 | you would like to PRODIGY ID - KJRD82A | FAX 914-993-8659 | share them.
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From: europa@tomcat.raleigh.ibm.com (Welch Bryan) Subject: pc-junior usable? Nntp-Posting-Host: tomcat.raleigh.ibm.com Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina Lines: 13 My fiance has a pc-junior and wants to upgrade to a full 386. Does anyone know if we could use the monitor it came with on a new machine? I heard it's MCGA or EGA, but not sure which. Also, does it use cards, so we can use the drive controller, floppy, etc? Thanks for the help! -Bryan -- Bryan Welch Amateur Radio: N0SFG Internet: europa@vnet.ibm.com (best), bwelch@scf.nmsu.edu Everything will perish save love and music.--Scots Gaelic proverb Disclaimer: It's all opinion. Everything. So there.
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From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack) Subject: Re: Investment in Yehuda and Shomron Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University Lines: 29 In article <1483500346@igc.apc.org> cpr@igc.apc.org (Center for Policy Research) writes: >Those who wish to learn something about the perversion of Judaism, >should consult the masterly work by Yehoshua Harkabi, who was many >years the head of Israeli Intelligence and an opponent of the PLO. His >latest book was published in English and includes a very detailed analysis >of Judeo-Nazism. You mean he talks about those Jews, who, because of their self hatred, spend all their time attacking Judaism, Jews, and Israel, using the most despicable of anti-Semetic stereotypes? I don't think we need to coin a term like "Jedeo-Nazism" to refer to those Jews who, in their endless desire to be accepted by the Nazis, do their dirty work for them. We can just call them house Jews, fools, or anti-Semites from Jewish families. I think "house Jews," a reference to a person of Jewish ancestry who issues statements for a company or organization that condemn Judaism is perfectly sufficeint. I think a few years free of their anti-Semetic role models would do wonders for most of them. Adam Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu "If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
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From: crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips) Subject: Armed Citizen - April '93 Nntp-Posting-Host: hound Reply-To: crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com Organization: "Intergraph Electronics, Mountain View, CA" Distribution: usa Lines: 150 THE ARMED CITIZEN +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mere presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents crime in many instances, as shown by news reports sent to The Armed Citizen. Shooting usually can be justified only where crime constitutes an immediate, imminent threat to life or limb or, in some circumstances, property. The accounts below are from clippings sent in by NRA members. Anyone is free to quote or reproduce them. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== Retired Las Vegas deputy police chief Larry Bolden initially tried to defend himself with a steering wheel bar lock when a criminal attacked him in his car. But then the intruder wrestled it from him, Bolden pulled his pistol and fired several times, wounding his attacker and stopping the incident. "He was just a citizen defending himself," a police official said. (The Review-Journal, Las Vegas, Nev., 11/11/92) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== A pair of teenaged robbers armed with a sawed-off shotgun and handguns took the day's receipts from Brooklyn bodega owner Hector Martinez. As they made their getaway, Martinez grabbed his registered 12-gauge shotgun and gave chase. When one fired, Martinez returned three blasts, slightly wounding his assailants. They fled but were apprehended when they sought medical attention. (Newsday, Long Island, N.Y., 01/05/93) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== A sign posted on the door of Roman Paras' shop reads "The owners of this property are armed and highly skilled to protect life, liberty and property from criminal attack." Apparently, a pair of robbers didn't pause to read it as they threatened Paras' wife in their Oxnard, Calif., convenience store. Hearing her scream, Paras grabbed his .38, ran to the front of the store and shot it out with the masked and armed men, killing one criminal. (The Times, Los Angeles, Calif., 12/04/92) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== Anne Marie Sullivan was showering in her Portland, Oreg., home one morning when she heard the front door crash in. She jumped out of the shower in time to see a man entering the home. Running to the bedroom, Sullivan retrieved her boyfriend's pistol and fired two shots, mortally wounding the intruder. The dead man had a lengthy police and prison record. (The Oregonian, Portland, Oreg., 01/07/93) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== Mike Baranelli would have let two robbers who burst into a Birmingham, Ala., barber shop keep his money. But the 75-year-old retired teacher was unwilling to surrender his life. When the intruders ordered Baranelli, the shop owner, and another man to lie on the floor, Baranelli pulled his pistol and shot both men in the head, killing one. "I felt sure there was going to be three dead people in there. I think I had some divine help," Baranelli said. (The Sunday Advertiser, Montgomery, Ala., 01/03/93) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== Believing an elderly Harvey, Ill., couple would again be easy prey, a knife-wielding home invader instead met death when the 76-year-old homeowner loosed three rounds from a semi-automatic pistol. Police said the dead man had been charged several times for thefts from the couple's home. (The Star, Chicago Heights, Ill., 01/07/93) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== The criminal's profile was scheduled to appear on "America's Most Wanted," but his shot at fame was abruptly canceled by a Hallandale, Fla., service station clerk. The Michigan prison escapee walked into the station and announced a robbery. Instead of cash, he got bullets in the head and chest from station clerk Gary McVey. Police said McVey acted in self-defense and would not face charges. (The Sun-Sentinel, Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., 12/04/92) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== A Bridgeport, Conn., oil delivery man handed over the few dollars he had. But the thug, apparently unsatisfied with his take, turned his gun on his victim and demanded more money. Instead of more cash, the deliveryman instead pulled his own pistol and fired, mortally wounding the robber. Police said the dead man had held up a nearby market just before the fatal incident. (The Courant, Hartford, Conn., 01/13/93) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== After repeated burglaries at her San Marcos, Calif., home, Joan Vessel, 64, was ready with a .38 and a cordless phone when she heard glass breaking one afternoon. When she found two teenagers attempting to get into her woodshed, Vessel fired a warning shot over their heads, marched them into the front yard and called police. (The Times Advocate, Escondido, Calif., 12/25/92) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== Angry that his auto insurance had been canceled, a client used brass knuckles to take it out on Brandon, Fla., agent Steven Taylor. When his assailant walked out of the office, Taylor grabbed a pistol kept there and held the former client at gun- point until police arrived. (The Tribune, Tampa, Fla., 01/14/93) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== Dozing one evening at his Exeter, Pa., office, Jim Pisano was awakened by the barking of his dog. Sitting in stunned amazement, he watched as two men smashed out his office window, reached in and grabbed one of his hunting rifles. Reaching a pistol on his desk, Pisano fired several shots, apparently wounding one of the burglars, and putting them to flight. (The Times-Leader, Wilkes-Barre, Pa., 12/09/92) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== Trying on a pair of shoes was just an act for a criminal who then pulled a knife and demanded money. When the man advanced, the Flint, Mich., shoestore owner drew his pistol and fired, critically wounding the would-be robber. (The Journal, Flint, Mich., 01/13/93) ================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ================================================================== Disarmed and pistol whipped after struggling with a pair of shotgun-toting thugs, Brooklyn, N.Y., pharmacist Soel Melero continued fighting and managed to retrieve a second-also licensed- hidden pistol. Firing three times, the druggist killed one of his assailants. The other fled empty-handed. (The Daily News, New York, N.Y., 01/18/93) ================================================================== -- ************************************************************* *Ron Phillips crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com * *Senior Customer Engineer * *Intergraph Electronics * *381 East Evelyn Avenue VOICE: (415) 691-6473 * *Mountain View, CA 94041 FAX: (415) 691-0350 * *************************************************************
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From: rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert G. Carpenter) Subject: Re: Please Recommend 3D Graphics Library For Mac. Organization: Boeing Lines: 24 In article <John_Shepardson.esh-210493100336@moose.slac.stanford.edu> John_Shepardson.esh@qmail.slac.stanford.edu (John Shepardson) writes: >> Can you please offer some recommendations? (3d graphics) > > >There has been a fantastic 3d programmers package for some years that has >been little advertised, and apparently nobody knows about, called 3d >Graphic Tools written by Mark Owen of Micro System Options in Seattle WA. >I reviewed it a year or so ago and was really awed by it's capabilities. >It also includes tons of code for many aspects of Mac programming >(including offscreen graphics). It does Zbuffering, 24 bit graphics, has a >database for representing graphical objects, and more. >It is very well written (MPW C, Think C, and HyperCard) and the code is >highly reusable. Last time I checked the price was around $150 - WELL >worth it. > >Their # is (206) 868-5418. I've talked with Mark and he faxed some literature, though it wasn't very helpful- just a list of routine names: _BSplineSurface, _DrawString3D... 241 names. There was a Product Info sheet that explained some of the package capabilities. I also found a review in April/May '92 MacTutor. It does look like a good package. The current price is $295 US.
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From: dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) Subject: Re: Braves & Giants Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson Lines: 13 >> The situation with the Giants' bleachers is a case in point for the >>need for a commissioner. This is true, but the main thing the commish i.e. Selig needs to do is to suspend Bobby Cox. You *cannot* allow a team to come out at the ump as the Braves did. I usually rip umps, but in this case, the players were dead wrong. Cox should go for 5 games. If I had ever umped a game where that happened, I'd have ejected every player that came out. Only Cox and Gant would have been spared, and then Cox would have gone in the ensuing argument. --dave
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From: gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal) Subject: Re: Let's build software cryptophones for over the internet... Lines: 27 I forwarded an old posting about CELP speech compression: In case you'd like to experiment with CELP, you can obtain a software implementation of the 4800 bps Fed Std CELP coder for free: The U.S. DoD's Federal-Standard-1016 based 4800 bps code excited linear prediction voice coder version 3.2 (CELP 3.2) Fortran and C simulation source codes are now available for worldwide distribution at no charge (on DOS diskettes, but configured to compile on Sun SPARC stations) from: I've since been told that the source of this is on cygnus.com in /pub/celp.speech.tar.Z I'm not in a position to; any Sun tcp/ip gurus out there who think they can marry this with netfone by the end of the week? ;-) Seriously. I think someone with real net access and two sparcs could have this running by the end of the week. Then we ask the pgp guys to add a bytestream crypto filter. Two weeks at the most. [Damn, I wish I had my sparc back... I'm stuck on a 25mhz 386sx] Share and Enjoy! G PS You'll have to use archie to find netfone - I have a copy but no note of where it's from; author in the docs is kelvin@autodesk.com and he appears to be located in France
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From: mrr@scss3.cl.msu.edu (Mark Riordan) Subject: Re: Source of random bits on a Unix workstation Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: scss3.cl.msu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Bennett Todd @ Salomon Brothers Inc., NY (bet@sbi.com) wrote: : However, unless I : missed something, the only source they suggested (aside from a hardware RNG) : that seems available, and unguessable by an intruder, when a Unix is : fresh-booted, is I/O buffers related to network traffic. I believe my : solution basically uses that strategy, without requiring me to reach into : the kernel. A few more sources are statistics on your filesystems (easily and quickly obtained) and the output from the "rusage" system call. You can also exec a finger to one or more favorite heavily-used systems, though this can take several seconds. cf. the source code to RIPEM on ripem.msu.edu. Mark R.
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Krillean Photography Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera Lines: 24 Distribution: world Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu In article <1993Apr19.205615.1013@unlv.edu>, todamhyp@charles.unlv.edu (Brian M. Huey) writes: =I think that's the correct spelling.. = I am looking for any information/supplies that will allow =do-it-yourselfers to take Krillean Pictures. I'm thinking =that education suppliers for schools might have a appartus for =sale, but I don't know any of the companies. Any info is greatly =appreciated. = In case you don't know, Krillean Photography, to the best of my =knowledge, involves taking pictures of an (most of the time) organic =object between charged plates. The picture will show energy patterns =or spikes around the object photographed, and depending on what type =of object it is, the spikes or energy patterns will vary. One might =extrapolate here and say that this proves that every object within =the universe (as we know it) has its own energy signature. Go to the library and look up "corona discharge." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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From: tszeto@sneezy.ts.stratus.com (Tommy Szeto) Subject: water in trunk of 89 Probe?? Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Lines: 15 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: sneezy.ts.stratus.com Water gradually builds up in the trunk of my friend's 89 Ford Probe. Every once in a while we would have to remove the spare and scoop out the water under the plywood/carpet cover on the trunk. I would guess this usually happens after a good thunder storm. A few Qs: 1) Is this a common problem? 2) Where are the drain holes located for the hatch? Thanks for any info. Tom -- Tom Szeto "No! Not those peanuts! The ones on the tszeto@sneezy.ts.stratus.com bottom....ggnuuaahuuhh" #include <disclaimer.h> - Homer Simpson
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From: bmich@cs.utexas.edu (Brian Keith Michalk) Subject: Re: high speed rail is bad Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 14 Distribution: tx NNTP-Posting-Host: coltexo.cs.utexas.edu In article <1993Apr13.150740.6221@iqsc.COM> rex@iqsc.COM (Rex Black) writes: >rail in Texas. Being from California, I have come to the conclusion >that one has two choices for preventing economic strangulation through >traffic: High speed rail or growth limits. > >Rex Growth limits? How will HSR help with the traffic congestion? From what I understand, the rail will not stop in places like Waco, or Bryan, or lots of intermediate places in between. Even though I live in Austin, I don't see myself using the train except on rare occasions. probably twice a year. And at $65 dollars a ticket I could probably drive for cheaper also. (even if the price of gas went up)
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From: tuinstra@signal.ece.clarkson.edu.soe (Dwight Tuinstra) Subject: Re: Clementine name Reply-To: tuinstra@signal.ece.clarkson.edu.soe Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 21 Nntp-Posting-Host: signal.ece.clarkson.edu In article F00001@permanet.org, Mark.Prado@p2.f349.n109.z1.permanet.org (Mark Prado) writes: >Please go just one step further: >How has the word "Clementine" been associated with mining? > Could be the (folk?) song "Clementine". If memory serves, part of it goes: In a cavern, by a canyon, Excavating for a mine, Dwelt a miner, forty-niner, and his daughter, Clementine. Anyone who watched Huckleberry Hound can sing you the chorus :-) Is there a story/real person behind the song? +========================================================================+ | dwight tuinstra best: tuinstra@sandman.ece.clarkson.edu | | tolerable: tuinstrd@craft.camp.clarkson.edu | | | | "Homo sapiens: planetary cancer?? ... News at six" | +========================================================================+
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From: karn@servo.qualcomm.com (Phil Karn) Subject: The battle is joined Nntp-Posting-Host: servo.qualcomm.com Organization: Qualcomm, Inc Lines: 290 It looks like Dorothy Denning's wrong-headed ideas have gotten to the Administration even sooner than we feared. It's time to make sure they hear the other side of the story, and hear it loudly! Phil ------- Forwarded Message Subject: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption Note: This file will also be available via anonymous file transfer from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov in directory /pub/nistnews and via the NIST Computer Security BBS at 301-948-5717. --------------------------------------------------- THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary _________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release April 16, 1993 STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY The President today announced a new initiative that will bring the Federal Government together with industry in a voluntary program to improve the security and privacy of telephone communications while meeting the legitimate needs of law enforcement. The initiative will involve the creation of new products to accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure telecommunications networks and wireless communications links. For too long there has been little or no dialogue between our private sector and the law enforcement community to resolve the tension between economic vitality and the real challenges of protecting Americans. Rather than use technology to accommodate the sometimes competing interests of economic growth, privacy and law enforcement, previous policies have pitted government against industry and the rights of privacy against law enforcement. Sophisticated encryption technology has been used for years to protect electronic funds transfer. It is now being used to protect electronic mail and computer files. While encryption technology can help Americans protect business secrets and the unauthorized release of personal information, it also can be used by terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals. A state-of-the-art microcircuit called the "Clipper Chip" has been developed by government engineers. The chip represents a new approach to encryption technology. It can be used in new, relatively inexpensive encryption devices that can be attached to an ordinary telephone. It scrambles telephone communications using an encryption algorithm that is more powerful than many in commercial use today. This new technology will help companies protect proprietary information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted electronically. At the same time this technology preserves the ability of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to intercept lawfully the phone conversations of criminals. A "key-escrow" system will be established to ensure that the "Clipper Chip" is used to protect the privacy of law-abiding Americans. Each device containing the chip will have two unique 2 "keys," numbers that will be needed by authorized government agencies to decode messages encoded by the device. When the device is manufactured, the two keys will be deposited separately in two "key-escrow" data bases that will be established by the Attorney General. Access to these keys will be limited to government officials with legal authorization to conduct a wiretap. The "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with no new authorities to access the content of the private conversations of Americans. To demonstrate the effectiveness of this new technology, the Attorney General will soon purchase several thousand of the new devices. In addition, respected experts from outside the government will be offered access to the confidential details of the algorithm to assess its capabilities and publicly report their findings. The chip is an important step in addressing the problem of encryption's dual-edge sword: encryption helps to protect the privacy of individuals and industry, but it also can shield criminals and terrorists. We need the "Clipper Chip" and other approaches that can both provide law-abiding citizens with access to the encryption they need and prevent criminals from using it to hide their illegal activities. In order to assess technology trends and explore new approaches (like the key-escrow system), the President has directed government agencies to develop a comprehensive policy on encryption that accommodates: -- the privacy of our citizens, including the need to employ voice or data encryption for business purposes; -- the ability of authorized officials to access telephone calls and data, under proper court or other legal order, when necessary to protect our citizens; -- the effective and timely use of the most modern technology to build the National Information Infrastructure needed to promote economic growth and the competitiveness of American industry in the global marketplace; and -- the need of U.S. companies to manufacture and export high technology products. The President has directed early and frequent consultations with affected industries, the Congress and groups that advocate the privacy rights of individuals as policy options are developed. 3 The Administration is committed to working with the private sector to spur the development of a National Information Infrastructure which will use new telecommunications and computer technologies to give Americans unprecedented access to information. This infrastructure of high-speed networks ("information superhighways") will transmit video, images, HDTV programming, and huge data files as easily as today's telephone system transmits voice. Since encryption technology will play an increasingly important role in that infrastructure, the Federal Government must act quickly to develop consistent, comprehensive policies regarding its use. The Administration is committed to policies that protect all Americans' right to privacy while also protecting them from those who break the law. Further information is provided in an accompanying fact sheet. The provisions of the President's directive to acquire the new encryption technology are also available. For additional details, call Mat Heyman, National Institute of Standards and Technology, (301) 975-2758. - - --------------------------------- QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S TELECOMMUNICATIONS INITIATIVE Q: Does this approach expand the authority of government agencies to listen in on phone conversations? A: No. "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with no new authorities to access the content of the private conversations of Americans. Q: Suppose a law enforcement agency is conducting a wiretap on a drug smuggling ring and intercepts a conversation encrypted using the device. What would they have to do to decipher the message? A: They would have to obtain legal authorization, normally a court order, to do the wiretap in the first place. They would then present documentation of this authorization to the two entities responsible for safeguarding the keys and obtain the keys for the device being used by the drug smugglers. The key is split into two parts, which are stored separately in order to ensure the security of the key escrow system. Q: Who will run the key-escrow data banks? A: The two key-escrow data banks will be run by two independent entities. At this point, the Department of Justice and the Administration have yet to determine which agencies will oversee the key-escrow data banks. Q: How strong is the security in the device? How can I be sure how strong the security is? A: This system is more secure than many other voice encryption systems readily available today. While the algorithm will remain classified to protect the security of the key escrow system, we are willing to invite an independent panel of cryptography experts to evaluate the algorithm to assure all potential users that there are no unrecognized vulnerabilities. Q: Whose decision was it to propose this product? A: The National Security Council, the Justice Department, the Commerce Department, and other key agencies were involved in this decision. This approach has been endorsed by the President, the Vice President, and appropriate Cabinet officials. Q: Who was consulted? The Congress? Industry? A: We have on-going discussions with Congress and industry on encryption issues, and expect those discussions to intensify as we carry out our review of encryption policy. We have briefed members of Congress and industry leaders on the decisions related to this initiative. Q: Will the government provide the hardware to manufacturers? A: The government designed and developed the key access encryption microcircuits, but it is not providing the microcircuits to product manufacturers. Product manufacturers can acquire the microcircuits from the chip manufacturer that produces them. Q: Who provides the "Clipper Chip"? A: Mykotronx programs it at their facility in Torrance, California, and will sell the chip to encryption device manufacturers. The programming function could be licensed to other vendors in the future. Q: How do I buy one of these encryption devices? A: We expect several manufacturers to consider incorporating the "Clipper Chip" into their devices. Q: If the Administration were unable to find a technological solution like the one proposed, would the Administration be willing to use legal remedies to restrict access to more powerful encryption devices? A: This is a fundamental policy question which will be considered during the broad policy review. The key escrow mechanism will provide Americans with an encryption product that is more secure, more convenient, and less expensive than others readily available today, but it is just one piece of what must be the comprehensive approach to encryption technology, which the Administration is developing. The Administration is not saying, "since encryption threatens the public safety and effective law enforcement, we will prohibit it outright" (as some countries have effectively done); nor is the U.S. saying that "every American, as a matter of right, is entitled to an unbreakable commercial encryption product." There is a false "tension" created in the assessment that this issue is an "either-or" proposition. Rather, both concerns can be, and in fact are, harmoniously balanced through a reasoned, balanced approach such as is proposed with the "Clipper Chip" and similar encryption techniques. Q: What does this decision indicate about how the Clinton Administration's policy toward encryption will differ from that of the Bush Administration? A: It indicates that we understand the importance of encryption technology in telecommunications and computing and are committed to working with industry and public-interest groups to find innovative ways to protect Americans' privacy, help businesses to compete, and ensure that law enforcement agencies have the tools they need to fight crime and terrorism. Q: Will the devices be exportable? Will other devices that use the government hardware? A: Voice encryption devices are subject to export control requirements. Case-by-case review for each export is required to ensure appropriate use of these devices. The same is true for other encryption devices. One of the attractions of this technology is the protection it can give to U.S. companies operating at home and abroad. With this in mind, we expect export licenses will be granted on a case-by-case basis for U.S. companies seeking to use these devices to secure their own communications abroad. We plan to review the possibility of permitting wider exportability of these products.
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From: c23tvr@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Thomas Redmond) Subject: Re: $6700 for hail damage - a record? Originator: c23tvr@koptsy17 Organization: Delco Electronics Corp. Distribution: usa Lines: 34 In article <1993Apr21.053516.28846@cactus.org>, boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle) writes: > In article <1993Apr20.203219.7724@pencom.com> stecz@pencom.com writes: > >In article <1993Apr19.235711.7285@cactus.org> boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle) > >writes: > >> > >> > >> My 90 Integra was hit hard in the 3/25 hailstorm in Austin, TX. > >> The insurance company cut me a check for $6600 ($100 deductible) > >> last week. Is this a record? Anybody else had settlements from > >> the same hailstorm yet? > >> > >> Craig > > > > > >Rumor has it that a guy at Dell Computer had his Miata totalled, so that would > >be about $10k. > > I guess it either had the top down, or the hail ripped through the top, as > you could not do $10k worth of hail damage to a Miata body. > > Craig > > > > > >-- > >-- > > John Steczkowski stecz@pencom.com > > The Constitution grants you the right to life, liberty, and the > > *pursuit* of happiness. It does not attempt to guarantee that > > everyone *will* be happy. > > There was a Volvo owner that had $3000 dollars worth of improvements to the looks of the car by hail :).
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From: jbuddenberg@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (JIMMY BUDDENBERG) Subject: should I get VESA controller card? Organization: Muskingum College Lines: 9 I have a 486DX 25mhz with local bus. Would I see much of an increase in speed in my drives if I got a VESA IDE controller card? I need advice! -- Jimmy Buddenberg INTERNET: jbuddenberg@vax.cns.muskingum.edu Muskingum College
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From: v124p7kk@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Darryl S Brooks) Subject: Re: Too Many Europeans in NHL (Euro-bashing?) Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 60 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu In article <rauser.734062608@sfu.ca>, rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes... > > > Here's the point: there are far too many Europeans in the NHL. I am sick >of watching a game between an American and a Canadian team (let's say, the >Red Wings and the Canucks) and seeing names like "Bure" "Konstantinov" and >"Borshevshky". Is this North America or isn't it? Toronto, Detriot, Quebec, >and Edmonton are particularly annoying, but the numbers of Euros on other >teams is getting worse as well. > > I live in Vancouver and if I hear one more word about "Pavel Bure, the >Russian Rocket" I will completely throw up. As it is now, every time I see >the Canucks play I keep hoping someone will cross-check Bure into the plexiglassso hard they have to carry him out on a stretcher. (By the way, I'm not a >Canucks fan to begin with ;-). > > Okay, the stretcher remark was a little carried away. But the point is that >I resent NHL owners drafting all these Europeans INSTEAD of Canadians (and >some Americans). It denies young Canadians the opportunity to play in THEIR >NORTH AMERICAN LEAGUE and instead gives it to Europeans, who aren't even >better hockey players. It's all hype. This "European mystique" is sickening, >but until NHL owners get over it, Canadian and American players will continue >to have to fight harder to get drafted into their own league. > > With the numbers of Euros in the NHL escalating, the problem is clearly >only getting worse. > > I'm all for the creation of a European Hockey League, and let the Bures >and Selannes of the world play on their own continent. > > I just don't want them on mine. > > Ah, so now we're into European player bashing? What next? No more French Canadiens? Yeah, there's an idea! Let them French- speaking Canadiens have their own hockey league! We don't want them! Are you _CRAZY_? The NHL is one of the true international leagues, and yes, there _ARE_ many Europeans who deserve to play in the NHL and are better than some North Americans, look at Teemu!!! I, for one, am glad to see Europeans in the NHL and I hope the NHL soon expands to Europe. Its nice to see all these different people come together to form the (soon to be) 26 hockey teams. > > >-- >Richard J. Rauser "You have no idea what you're doing." >rauser@sfu.ca "Oh, don't worry about that. We're professional >WNI outlaws - we do this for a living." >----------------- >"Remember, no matter where you go, there you are." -Dr.Banzai Darryl Brooks University at Buffalo __ ______ /// | | / \ \ \ / / / _____ / / //// | | / /\ \ \ \___/ / ( \ ---/-/--- /// | | / /__\ \ \ / \ \ ---/-/--- /// | |____| | / ____ \ | | ____\ ) / / /// \______/ / / \ \ | | ______/ /////// Go Bills, Sabres, and Magic!!
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From: gtonwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (Tony G. Wu) Subject: Need video drivers for Tseng True-color Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 18 Hello. I purchased a video card called ET-4000 true color card which can provide about 1700K colors. But the question is I can't find the corresponding drivers for windows 3.1 , I am now using 65k colors driver for win31. It works fine , but I think it will be better if I use 1700k driver. So, please tell me whether such a driver is available ! Thanks in advance. -- ===================== ( Forever 23, Michael Jordan.) ===================== Tony G. Wu gtonwu@uz.nthu.edu.tw CAE/Rheology Lab. NTHU. tony@che.nthu.edu.tw
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From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols) Subject: Re: Simple Windows question Organization: AT&T Lines: 15 In article <1993Apr23.214110.15315@sarah.albany.edu> jr0930@eve.albany.edu (DIAMOND) writes: >When running DOS 5.0 under Windows 3.0, I lose the ability to do a >print-screen. >I have no problem with this when I'm running DOS not under Windows. ... Open up the .PIF file with the PIF Editor, click on the "Advanced" button, and then reserve the PrtSc key for the application. Any keys that you select in this section will be passed along to the application rather than being processed by Windows. -- Bob Nichols AT&T Bell Laboratories rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
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Organization: University of Maine System From: The Always Fanatical: Patrick Ellis <IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Subject: Re: Bruins vs Canadiens: <1993Apr16.235100.18268@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> Lines: 18 un, you better add at least another plus to the Pederson for Neely trade, the Bruins also received a number 1 round draft pick, didn't play great this year but Wesley's still a decent defenseman.... And the Bruins got Pederson back eventually anyway..... Pat Ellis P.S. GO BRUINS GO UMAINE BLACK BEARS 42-1-2 NUMBER 1...... HOCKEY EAST REGULARS SEASON CHAMPIONS..... HOCKEY EAST TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS>...... PAUL KARIYA, HOBEY BAKER AWARD WINNER....... NCAA DIV. 1 HOCKEY TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! M-A-I-N-E GGGGOOOOOOO BBBLLLUUEEEE!
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From: huub@cwi.nl (Huub Bakker) Subject: waiting for a specific event/callback Keywords: event handling Reply-To: Huub.Bakker@cwi.nl Organization: CWI, Centre for Mathematics & Computer Science Lines: 30 Hello world, I want to write my Xt-application code like this: { do_some_work(); /* now I need some user input */ XmCreateDialog(); wait_for_user_input(input); if (input == "OK") { more_work(); } else { other_work(); } } So "more_work() and other_work()" are not in callback functions but the application simply waits for the user to answer the question. How can I code this in my Xt/Motif-application? Thanks very much in advance. Greetings, Huub. -- CWI, P.O. Box 4079 Huub Bakker (huub@cwi.nl) 1009 AB Amsterdam The Netherlands Tel. 31 20 5924080
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From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca Subject: How to buy a first bike, etc. Organization: BC Systems Corporation Lines: 8 There have been a *lot* of posts lately about "I wanna buy my first bike - is a GSXR/ZX/CBR/FZR a good bike to learn on?" etc. I think I'm going to put together a FAQ on buying a new bike. Ravi used to post one all the time. -- Bruce Clarke B.C. Environment e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
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From: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705) Subject: Re: Clipper considered harmful Organization: Sorcerer's Apprentice Cleaning Services Distribution: inet In-Reply-To: shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu's message of 21 Apr 1993 00:36:44 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: rainier.ho.att.com Lines: 24 In article <1r24us$oeh@agate.berkeley.edu> shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes: In article <15469@optilink.COM> brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood) writes: >Finally, because there is essentially no possibility of intercepting in >realtime the scrutable content of communications between stolen instruments, >there will exist strong motivation to record and archive _all_ communications >in the network for ex-post-facto scrutiny (once some criminal act is >discovered, and the instruments involved have been identified). "All" is a *very* big number. The AT&T Long Distance network has around 20,000 T3 trunks (45 Mbit/sec), which is on the order of 10**12 bits/sec. That doesn't even count the amount of traffic in the LOCAL phone companies, or our long-distance competitors. It's about 200 Exabytes tapes / second, which is pretty large even for the NSA :-) On the other hand, I can easily see them recording the traffic for "interesting" people, such as dissidents, suspected criminals, foreign telephone calls, and anybody noticed using encryption. As Ken Shiriff speculates, recording encrypted traffic will probably be judged not to be an invasion of privacy pretty soon .... -- # Pray for peace; Bill # Bill Stewart 1-908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ # No, I'm *from* New Jersey, I only *work* in cyberspace.... # White House Commect Line 1-202-456-1111 fax 1-202-456-2461
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From: dla@se05.wg2.waii.com (Doug Acker) Subject: Problem with libXmu on SUNOS5.1 and gcc Reply-To: acker@se01.wg2.waii.com Organization: Western Geophysical Exploration Products Lines: 52 NNTP-Posting-Host: se05.wg2.waii.com I am using X11R5patch23 with the R5-SUNOS5 patch posted on export. I did optionally apply the patch.olit. libXmu compiles fine .. when I try to use it with clients (i.e. bmtoa and twm), I get errors ... I can not figure out what is wrong: gcc -fpcc-struct-return -o twm gram.o lex.o deftwmrc.o add_window.o gc.o list.o twm.o parse.o menus.o events.o resize.o util.o version.o iconmgr.o cursor.o icons.o -O2 -R/usr/wgep/X11R5.sos5/lib${LD_RUN_PATH+\:$LD_RUN_PATH} -L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu -L../.././lib/Xt -L../.././extensions/lib -L../.././lib/X -L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././lib/X -lX11 -L/usr/wgep/X11R5.sos5/lib -lsocket -lnsl ld: warning: file ../.././extensions/lib/libXext.so: attempted multiple inclusion of file libXext.so Undefined first referenced symbol in file XtAppSetWarningMsgHandler ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtScreenDatabase ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtDisplayStringConversionWarning ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtErrorMsg ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtRealloc ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtIsManaged ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtMalloc ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtGetApplicationResources ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtOwnSelection ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtGetConstraintResourceList ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtCalloc ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtName ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtStringConversionWarning ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtAppSetTypeConverter ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtDisplayToApplicationContext ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtGetResourceList ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtFree ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtDestroyWidget ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtGetValues ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtWarningMsg ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtTranslateCoords ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtCvtStringToFont ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtWidgetToApplicationContext ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtWarning ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtCreateWidget ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtWindowOfObject ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtVaSetValues ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtAppWarningMsg ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtGetSelectionValue ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so XtResolvePathname ../.././lib/Xmu/libXmu.so ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to twm *** Error code 1 -- Douglas L.Acker Western Geophysical Exploration Products ____ ____ ____ a division of Western Atlas International Inc. \ \ / /\ / /\ A Litton / Dresser Company \ \/ / \ / / \ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \ / / \ / /\ \ Internet : acker@wg2.waii.com \/___/ \/___/ \___\ Voice : (713) 964-6128
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From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) Subject: Re: <<Pompous ass Organization: sgi Lines: 28 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com In article <1ql6jiINN5df@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes: |> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes: |> |> >>Look, I'm not the one that made those Nazi comparisons. Other people |> >>compared what the religious people are doing now to Nazi Germany. They |> >>have said that it started out with little things (but no one really knew |> >>about any of these "little" things, strangely enough) and grew to bigger |> >>things. They said that the motto is but one of the little things |> >You just contradicted yourself. The motto is one of those little things that |> >nobody has bothered mentiopning to you, huh? |> |> The "`little' things" above were in reference to Germany, clearly. People |> said that there were similar things in Germany, but no one could name any. |> They said that these were things that everyone should know, and that they |> weren't going to waste their time repeating them. Sounds to me like no one |> knew, either. I looked in some books, but to no avail. That's not true. I gave you two examples. One was the rather pevasive anti-semitism in German Christianity well before Hitler arrived. The other was the system of social ranks that were used in Imperail Germany and Austria to distinguish Jews from the rest of the population. Neither of these were very terrible in themselves, but both helped to set a psychology in which the gradual disenfranchisement of Jews was made easier. jon.
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From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more. Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA Lines: 17 Distribution: world Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.intercon.com X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1 tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) writes: > But is it any worse than the current unsecure system? It becomes much > worse, of course, if the government then uses this "Clinton Clipper" to > argue for restrictions on unapproved encryption. (This is the main > concern of most of us, I think. The camel's nose in the tent, etc.) I agree. This is the danger I see, not the system itself. That is to say, this is a political issue, not a technical one. Amanda Walker InterCon Systems Corporation
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Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption From: uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) Distribution: na Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Lines: 51 In article <1qmugcINNpu9@gap.caltech.edu> hal@cco.caltech.edu (Hal Finney) writes: >The key question is whether non-Clipper encryption will be made illegal. > >> The Administration is not saying, "since encryption >> threatens the public safety and effective law enforcement, >> we will prohibit it outright" (as some countries have >> effectively done); nor is the U.S. saying that "every >> American, as a matter of right, is entitled to an >> unbreakable commercial encryption product." There is a >> false "tension" created in the assessment that this issue is >> an "either-or" proposition. Rather, both concerns can be, >> and in fact are, harmoniously balanced through a reasoned, >> balanced approach such as is proposed with the "Clipper >> Chip" and similar encryption techniques. > >The clear middle ground implied by these statements is to say that Americans >have the right to Clipper encryption, but not to unbreakable encryption. >This implies that, ultimately, non-Clipper strong encryption must become >illegal. [Text deleted, no value judgement implied] >It's shocking and frightening to see that this is actually happening here. > >Hal Finney >hal@alumni.caltech.edu More than shocking. What this says to me is no less than that government is very interested in monitoring the public. This does more than scare me, it mortifies me. PGP and RIPEM must become widespread enough to resist what Mr. Finney has [IMHO correctly] identified as the next logical step. What was once an academic discussion with regard to concealing cyphertext, has now become a real consideration. The rhetoric that the clinton administration seems obsessed with, harmony, either or propositions, tension, tells me that they know how difficult it will be to sell this proposition. The phrase I hear more and more is "I can't believe this is actually happening here." Call me conserative, Clinton was a huge mistake that we'll all be paying for tommorow and many years from now. Have we approached the age of speakeasy public key depositiories? uni (Dark) -- uni@acs.bu.edu -> Public Keys by finger and/or request Public Key Archives at <pgp-public-keys@junkbox.cc.iastate.edu> Sovereignty is the sign of a brutal past.
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!! Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing Lines: 43 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: uhad2.admin.uh.edu X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24 In-Reply-To: jmd@cube.handheld.com's message of 20 Apr 1993 16:26:47 GMT In <1r1887INNcsd@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com writes: > In article <1r0v4c$i1j@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) > writes: > > In <1r0poqINNc4k@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com writes: > > > > According to KIKK radio in Houston, all nine survivors are either in hos- > > pitals or in jails. Including the two who allegedly helped start the > >fires. > > In the FBI briefing, no mention was made of having the fire starters in > custody. Which one? The one yesterday, or has there been another? If it was yester- day, catch up. IMO, 90% of all "conspiracy" charges are easily explained by the simple fact that in these days of instantaneous news transmission, all kinds of stuff gets said when people really just don't know what the hell's going on. Then the story changes once the facts are in and suddenly cries of "its all a whitewash!" start. Naturally, everybody wants to cover his/her ass. > > > Why the total isolation? > > > > Well, it wasn't TOTAL, 100% isolation. After the lawyer snuck in the > > first time, they (the FBI, etc) let him go back inside several times, in- > >cluding, I think, the day before the final assualt. > > Why not his mother? Why not the media? Damnfino. I just tend to take issue with absolute statements that are ob- viously wrong on their face and tend to inflame, not inform. The isolation was significant, but not total. semper fi, Jammer Jim Miller Texas A&M University '89 and '91 ________________________________________________________________________________ I don't speak for UH, which is too bad, because they could use the help. "Become one with the Student Billing System. *BE* the Student Billing System." "Power finds its way to those who take a stand. Stand up, Ordinary Man." ---Rik Emmet, Gil Moore, Mike Levine: Triumph
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From: kepley@photon.phys.unca.edu (Brad Kepley) Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more. Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville Distribution: na Lines: 13 In article <1993Apr20.161838.13213@coop.com> felixg@coop.com (Felix Gallo) writes: >pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes: > >>If the Clinton Clipper is so very good, [...] > >Please note that Bill Clinton probably has little if anything to do >with the design, implementation or reasoning behind this chip or behind Can't we move the political bickering to a more appropriate group? -- Brad Kepley Internet kepley@photon.phys.unca.edu Work-days Voice (704)252-8330 --
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From: lehors@koala.inria.fr (Arnaud Le_Hors) Subject: ** Xpm 3.2g is available ** Keywords: XPM Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France Lines: 44 On export.lcs.mit.edu directory contrib, and avahi.inria.fr directory pub/xpm: xpm-3.2f-to-3.2g.patch.Z xpm-3.2g.tar.Z /* Copyright 1990-93 GROUPE BULL -- See license conditions in file COPYRIGHT */ /**************************************************************************\ * * * HISTORY of user-visible changes * * * \**************************************************************************/ 3.2g (93/04/26) ENHANCEMENTS: - much faster close colors - piping from/to compressed files now handles GNU's gzip (.z) format - added XpmColorKey attribute - ability to specify which visual's colors to use (ie: now it's possible to read in a pixmap in a color visual, but use the colors specified for monochrome). - added -mono, -grey4, -grey and -color options to sxpm to demonstrate the XpmColorKey attribute. - Jason Patterson <jasonp@fitmail.qut.edu.au> BUGS CORRECTED: - fixed bug where redefining "None" as a pixel stopped mask generation - minor SVR4 defines for <string.h> - fixed annoying closecolor bug related to read/write color cells - fixed minor bug in color value -> pixel overloading - manual updated to include new red/green/blue closeness attributes - Jason Patterson <jasonp@fitmail.qut.edu.au> - the top Imakefile was missing the depend target - sxpm/Imakefile fixed so that -L../lib is set before the standard library location. - Vivek Khera <khera@cs.duke.edu> - lib/xpmP.h now defines bcopy as memcpy for VMS (required by recent versions of VMS) - J. Daniel Smith <dsmith@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> - the lib/Imakefile didn't work with X11R4. -- Arnaud LE HORS - lehors@sophia.inria.fr - BULL Research France, Koala Project
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat) Subject: Re: Sunrise/ sunset times Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net In article <1r6f3a$2ai@news.umbc.edu> rouben@math9.math.umbc.edu (Rouben Rostamian) writes: >how the length of the daylight varies with the time of the year. >Experiment with various choices of latitudes and tilt angles. >Compare the behavior of the function at locations above and below >the arctic circle. If you want to have some fun. Plug the basic formulas into Lotus. Use the spreadsheet auto re-calc, and graphing functions to produce bar graphs based on latitude, tilt and hours of day light avg. pat
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From: humesdg1@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Dave Humes) Subject: xwd segmentation fault Keywords: xwd X11 Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory Lines: 22 I was planning to use the following pipe to move some display data to a system that has a color hardcopy unit: xwd | xwud -display hostname:0.0 I had tested it with some simple windows like the OpenWindows file manager, and it worked fine, but when I tried it with a more complex (larger) image, the xwd part blew up with a segmentation fault. I tried it without the pipe, by redirecting xwd's output to a file and then used the file as input to xwud and got the same error from xwud. If I had to guess, it seems like it's running out of memory, but this happened on a SPARC 10 with 64 megs, 128 meg swap space, and only one user with minimal activity. The file was about 3 MB. This verion of xwd/xwud was supplied with the Sun OpenWindows 3.0 distribution which I believe corresponds to X11 R4. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Humes | Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (410) 792-6651 | humesdg1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: e324ngon@credit.erin.utoronto.ca (Ngo Nguyen) Subject: Re: Date is stuck Organization: University of Toronto, Erindale Campus Lines: 19 In article <1qte10$kn5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ab245@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sam Latonia) writes: > >I can't imagine why someone would leave their computer on all of >the time to start with. Its like leaving your lights tv, radio >and everything in the house on all of the time to me.....Nuts Computers are a special case.. and it's a pretty good idea to leave them on.. cuz everytime you turn on a computer, you're putting a surge of electricity through its delicate components. Imagine you're turning on your computer 5 or more times a day. You're increasing the chances of damaging the chips, memory, etc on all the components of your computer. So you may save a few cents here and there in electricity bills, but it won't look like much when it come time to fix your computer. My $.02 worth.. N. Ngo
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) Subject: Re: Exercise and Migraine Article-I.D.: adobe.1993Apr15.224049.15516 Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Lines: 12 In article <1993Apr15.163133.25634@ntmtv> janet@ntmtv.com (Janet Jakstys) writes: >This isn't the first time that I've had a migraine occur after exercise. >I'm wondering if anyone else has had the same experience and I wonder >what triggers the migraine in this situation (heat buildup? dehydration?). >I'm not giving up tennis so is there anything I can do (besides get into >shape and don't play at high noon) to prevent this? I've gotten migraines after exercise, though for me it seems to be related to exercising without having eaten recently. Sherri Nichols snichols@adobe.com
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From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) Subject: Re: Is it good that Jesus died? Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco Lines: 42 jburrill@boi.hp.com (Jim Burrill) writes: >Brian Kendig (bskendig@netcom.com) wrote: >: >: Can you please point to something, anything, that proves to me that >: the universe cannot possibly be explained without accepting as a fact >: the existence of a god in precisely the way your holy book describes? >: >: Can you please convince me that your religion is more than a very >: cleverly-constructed fable, and that it does indeed have some bearing >: on my own personal day-to-day life? > >Would you consider the word of an eye-witness (Peter) to testify to the >events surrounding Jesus' life? No. There are two problems here: (1) Peter died two millenia ago. The original letters he wrote have long since decayed into dust. If he were alive today and I could question him, then this might lend credibility to your claims (but probably not much, because after all, I've heard people claim with all sincerity that they've spoken with Elvis recently). But after his death, Peter's writings were transcribed by monks for centuries, and I find it hard to believe that one of them somewhere didn't decide to change the wording of something to make it (in his opinion) a little easier to understand. (2) Even if Peter did witness the miracles of Jesus two millenia ago, that doesn't mean that your deity is what the Bible says it is (God might just be Satan, trying to convince everyone that he's a nice guy), or even that your deity is still alive and active in the world today. Nice try, but it just isn't enough to convince me, especially since your wild claims about your deity seem to fly in the face of the way I've observed the world to work. Please find something more compelling. -- _/_/_/ Brian Kendig Je ne suis fait comme aucun /_/_/ bskendig@netcom.com de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire _/_/ n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent. / The meaning of life Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre. / is that it ends. -- Rousseau
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From: bakalis@apollo.HP.COM (Steven Bakalis) Subject: Re: Speeding ticket from CHP Article-I.D.: apollo.C52JGB.K99 Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA Lines: 18 Nntp-Posting-Host: fantail.ch.apollo.hp.com In article <1pqarb$fnq@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, crucej@osshe.edu (Jerry Cruce) writes: |> Peter Nesbitt (0005111312@mcimail.com) wrote: |> : Riding to work last week via Hwy 12 from Suisun, to I-80, I was pulled over by |> : a CHP black and white by the 76 Gas station by Jameson Canyon Road. The |> : officer stated "...it <looked> like you were going kinda fast coming down |> : highway 12. You <must have> been going at least 70 or 75." I just said okay, |> : and did not agree or disagree to anything he said. |> 1) The next time you get stoped by a cop, never never never admit to anything. 2) Don't volunteer any information. 3) When a retoracle question is ask by the cop, like "...it <looked> like you were going kinda fast coming down highway 12. You <must have> been going at least 70 or 75?" -- the correct reponse is to deny it. This technique is employed by police to help establish guilt, especially when (9 times out of 10) he/she is not sure who was doing the speeding. If the cop is unsure this may be the difference of him letting you off the hook or getting the tissue. Hope this helps for next time. Steven Bakalis
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From: dennisod@itx.isc.com (Dennis R. O'Donnell) Subject: McCartney concert tickets for sale Organization: Interactive Systems Keywords: dennisod Lines: 14 Four tickets available for the Paul McCartney concert at the Alamo Dome in San Antonio, TX on May 29th... GROUND FLOOR SEATS. Will sell all four, or in pairs: $100 each. E-Mail: dennisod@itx.isc.com
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From: fombaron@ufrima.imag.fr (FOMBARON marc) Subject: 3d-Studio V2.01 : Any differences with previous version Keywords: 3d studio 2.01 Nntp-Posting-Host: boole-imag Organization: University of Grenoble (France) Lines: 9 Are there significant differences between V2.01 and V2.00 ? Thank you for helping Marc. -- _/_/ _/_/ e-mail : Marc.Fombaron@ufrima.imag.fr _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ Marc Fombaron. _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Grenoble.
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From: alung@megatest.com (Aaron Lung) Subject: Re: electronic odometers (was: Used BMW Question ..... ???) Organization: Megatest Corporation Lines: 21 In article <9833@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> lovall@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Daniel L. Lovall) writes: > >It shouldn't be THAT hard if you know much about digital electronics. If the >counter is made with standard TTL chips, all you should need to do is find >the chip(s) used for counting, figure out what mileage you want to put in, >and preset it but wiring the preset pins directly to low/high (you'd also have >to know what the conventions are for low and high). It might be a little more >involved than this, but it shouldn't be beyond someone with a BSEE or BS EET. >All the display does is convert what the counter chips say into digits using >a "translation table" stored in ROM. > Nobody is using discrete IC's to do these functions anymore if at all. I doubt any of the Motor electronics had any to start with. ...Much less TTL. I can almost guarantee that it'll a fruitless attempt to figure out how BMW does it without breaking anything and invalidating any warranty on the car. If you're lucky, you'd still be able to start the car.
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From: scst83@csc.liv.ac.uk (Chris Smith) Subject: Re: books/info on audio DSP ?? Distribution: rec,sci Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University Lines: 28 Nntp-Posting-Host: goyt.csc.liv.ac.uk In sci.electronics,rec.audio David S. Rowell writes: >I assume these are appropriate newsgroups for this question. I am looking >for a good book, articles, anything on audio DSP. Theory is nice, but >I'm really looking for something very much on the applications side. >I want to look into it as my new hobby, so I need all the direction >I can get. Any comments would be welcome, too. I'm looking to build a DSP for guitar processing. Hence lots of background information would be really useful ! If anyone's got any info, could they email..... Thanks in advance... Chris ;-) +====================================================================+ |Name : Mr Chris Smith | Twang on that 'ole guitar ! | |Addrs: scst83@uk.ac.liv.csc | | |Uni : Liverpool University |Quest: To build more and more hardware | |Dgree: Computer Science | | +====================================================================+ "What ever the sun may be, it is certainly not a ball of flaming gas!" -- D.H. Lawrence. * All views expressed are my own, and reflect that of private thought. *
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From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) Subject: Re: Solar Sail Data Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory Lines: 56 NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov In article <1993Apr15.051746.29848@news.duc.auburn.edu>, snydefj@eng.auburn.edu (Frank J. Snyder) writes: > I am looking for any information concerning projects involving Solar > Sails. [...] > Are there any groups out there currently involved in such a project ? Sure. Contact the World Space Foundation. They're listed in the sci.space Frequently Asked Questions file, which I'll excerpt. WORLD SPACE FOUNDATION - has been designing and building a solar-sail spacecraft for longer than any similar group; many JPL employees lend their talents to this project. WSF also provides partial funding for the Palomar Sky Survey, an extremely successful search for near-Earth asteroids. Publishes *Foundation News* and *Foundation Astronautics Notebook*, each a quarterly 4-8 page newsletter. Contributing Associate, minimum of $15/year (but more money always welcome to support projects). World Space Foundation Post Office Box Y South Pasadena, California 91301 WSF put together a little paperback anthology of fiction and nonfiction about solar sails: *Project Solar Sail*. I think Robert Staehle, David Brin, or Arthur Clarke may be listed as editor. Also there is a nontechnical book on solar sailing by Louis Friedman, a technical one by a guy whose name escapes me (help me out, Josh), and I would expect that Greg Matloff and Eugene Mallove have something to say about the subject in *The Starflight Handbook*, as well as quite a few references. Check the following articles in *Journal of the British Interplanetary Society*: V36 p. 201-209 (1983) V36 p. 483-489 (1983) V37 p. 135-141 (1984) V37 p. 491-494 (1984) V38 p. 113-119 (1984) V38 p. 133-136 (1984) (Can you guess that Matloff visited Fermilab and gave me a bunch of reprints? I just found the file.) And K. Eric Drexler's paper "High Performance Solar Sails and Related Reflecting Devices," AIAA paper 79-1418, probably in a book called *Space Manufacturing*, maybe the proceedings of the Second (?) Conference on Space Manufacturing. The 1979 one, at any rate. Submarines, flying boats, robots, talking Bill Higgins pictures, radio, television, bouncing radar Fermilab vibrations off the moon, rocket ships, and HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET atom-splitting-- all in our time. But nobody HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV has yet been able to figure out a music SPAN: 43011::HIGGINS holder for a marching piccolo player. --Meredith Willson, 1948
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From: cbrooks@ms.uky.edu (Clayton Brooks) Subject: Re: V-max handling request Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences Lines: 13 bradw@Newbridge.COM (Brad Warkentin) writes: >............. Seriously, handling is probably as good as the big standards >of the early 80's but not compareable to whats state of the art these days. I think you have to go a little further back. This opinion comes from riding CB750's GS1000's KZ1300's and a V-Max. I find no enjoyment in riding a V-Max fast on a twisty road. -- Clayton T. Brooks _,,-^`--. From the heart cbrooks@ms.uky.edu 722 POT U o'Ky .__,-' * \ of the blue cbrooks@ukma.bitnet Lex. KY 40506 _/ ,/ grass and {rutgers,uunet}!ukma!cbrooks 606-257-6807 (__,-----------'' bourbon country AMA NMA MAA AMS ACBL DoD
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From: "Paul Hager" <hagerp@cs.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Lines: 82 roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes: >In article <C5rrot.MMM@rice.edu> fontenot@ravl.rice.edu (Dwayne Jacques Fontenot) writes: >>In article <C5rpoJ.IJv@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes: >>>In article <1993Apr19.184303.6205@stortek.com> vojak@icebucket.stortek.com (Bill Vojak) writes: >>>> >>> [...] >>>> 5) Point out that even if the fire was set by someone inside of the >>>> building, it came as a direct result of the actions of the FBI/BATF. >>>> And the people inside (including 17 children) deserved a trial, instead >>>> of this. >>> >>>Well they had over 40 days to come out with their hands up on national tv >>>to get the trial they deserved. Instead they chose to set fire to their >>>compund hours after the tanks dropped off the tear gas. >> >>Correction: The FBI says that the Davidians set fire to their buildings. >And I suppose the FBI also prevented them from coming out with their >hands up while national tv cameras watch. Well the attorneys of the Davidians reported on Larry King that the tanks had actually damaged the structure to the extent that effectuating egress from the building was difficult at best. With a rapidly spreading fire and large amounts of smoke and tear gas, finding the right exits, or acceptible holes in the walls were nearly impossible. I find this explanation to be completely plausible. Doesn't mean that it's true, but I don't find it intrinsically less believable than the government stories. >>The FBI also said that the Davidians had a methanphetamine lab in their >>basement and that the Davidians had .50 cal machine guns. >> >>Do you believe everything the FBI says? >Do you disbelieve everything the FBI says? >I balance my gut reaction to question authority together with the >independent facts as I see them on video. I usually adopt the >scenario that is simplest and most plausible. I do not generally >believe in conspiracy theories that involve complicated and unlikely >scenarios. I concur. >The BATF is by no means devoid of fault in the handling of this affair. >But to suggest that they may have intentionally started the fire is >ludicrous. Indeed. According to the lawyers, the Davidian survivors say that lanterns were knocked over during the "probing" and that's how the fire started. A tragic accident, if true. >>Do you trust that snivelling little >>piece of sh*t special agent Ricks? He seems to think he is a comedian, and >>the media who laugh at his sick jokes are just as guilty as he, IMHO. >> >>>Up until now the BATF had been making me sick. Today the people inside >>>the compound who set the fire made me sick. Keeping the children inside >>>the compund when they should have been released earlier with the other >>>people weeks ago is absolutely inexcuseable. Not releasing them before >>>deciding to set the place afire is the work of madmen. >>> >>>Two of the nine who escaped the compound said the fire was deliberately set >>>by cult members. >> >>Correction: The FBI says that two of the nine said the fire was deliberately >>set by the sect members. >If the fire were set by accident or by people outside the compound, I would >have expected far more cult members to flee the compound. Or at least come >out shooting. See above. This one is going to be thoroughly investigated. Maybe we'll eventually get some idea of what happened. My view is that, from beginning to end, this operation was a botch and that it is completely possible that nut cases who were otherwise law-abiding citizens were victims of a bureaucratic execution. -- paul hager hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu "I would give the Devil benefit of the law for my own safety's sake." --from _A_Man_for_All_Seasons_ by Robert Bolt
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From: perry@dsinc.com (Jim Perry) Subject: Re: The Inimitable Rushdie Organization: Decision Support Inc. Lines: 72 NNTP-Posting-Host: bozo.dsinc.com I apologize for the long delay in getting a response to this posted. I've been working reduced hours the past couple of weeks because I had a son born (the day after Umar's article was posted, btw). I did respond within a couple of days, but it turns out that a a coincidental news software rearrangement caused postings from this site to silently disappear rather than going out into the world. This is a revision of that original response. In article <C52q47.7Ct@ra.nrl.navy.mil> khan@itd.itd.nrl.navy.mil (Umar Khan) writes: >In article <1ps98fINNm2u@dsi.dsinc.com> perry@dsinc.com (Jim Perry) writes: >>Only a functional illiterate with absolutely no conception of the >>nature of the novel could think such a thing. [this was in response to the claim that "Rushdie made false statements about the life of Mohammed", with the disclaimer "(fiction, I know, but where is the line between fact and fiction?) - I stand by this distinction between fiction and "false statements"] >>However, it's not for his writing in _The Satanic Verses_, but for >>what people have accepted as a propagandistic version of what is >>contained in that book. I have yet to find *one single muslim* who >>has convinced me that they have read the book. Some have initially >>claimed to have done so, but none has shown more knowledge of the book >>than a superficial Newsweek story might impart, and all have made >>factual misstatements about events in the book. > >You keep saying things like this. Then, you accuse people like me of >making ad hominem arguments. I repeat, as I have said in previous >postings on AA: I *have* read TSV from cover to cover I had not seen that claim, or I might have been less sweeping. You have made what I consider factual misstatements about events in the book, which I have raised in the past, in the "ISLAM: a clearer view" thread as well as the root of the "Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW]" thread. My statement was not that you had not read the book, but that you had not convinced me that you [inter alia] had. As I said before, if you want to defend your position, then produce evidence, and respond to the evidence I have posted; so far you have not. Of course, my statement was not directly aimed at you, but broadly at a number of Muslim posters who have repeated propaganda about the book, indicating that they haven't read it, and narrowly at Gregg Jaeger, who subsequently admitted that he hadn't in fact read the book, vindicating my skepticism in at least that one case. So far, the only things I have to go on regarding your own case are a) the statements you made concerning the book in the "a clearer view" posting, which I have challenged (not interpretation, but statements of fact, for instance "Rushdie depicts the women of the most respected family in all of Islam as whores"), and b) your claim (which I had not seen before this) that you have indeed read it cover to cover. I am willing to try to resolve this down to a disagreement on critical interpretation, but you'll have to support your end, by responding to my criticism. I have no doubt as to the ability of a particular Muslim to go through this book with a highlighter finding passages to take personal offense at, but you have upheld the view that "TSV *is* intended as an attack on Islam and upon Muslims". This view must be defended by more than mere assertion, if you want anyone to take it seriously. >I am trying very hard to be amicable and rational. And I appreciate it, but welcome to the club. I am defending my honest opinion that this book should not be construed as a calculated (or otherwise) insulting attack on Islam, and the parallel opinion that most of the criticism of the book I have seen is baseless propaganda. I have supported my statements and critical interpretationa with in-context quotes from the book and Rushdie's essays, which is more than my correspondents have done. Of course, you are more than welcome to do so. -- Jim Perry perry@dsinc.com Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC These are my opinions. For a nominal fee, they can be yours.
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From: q@twg.com (Michael Wiesenberg) Subject: Quicken 6 vs. Tobias' Managing Your Money Summary: Any comparisons of Q6 and Tobias' MYM? Keywords: Quicken Tobias Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 19 I just got a copy of Tobias' Managing Your Money v9.0. I have Quicken 6, and it's wonderful for some things, but MYM seems to have some features that Q6 doesn't. For example, Q6 doesn't seem to be able to handle monthly automatic deductions from a checking account (you know, a monthly payment that gets electronically deducted every month from my checking account). Or is there something that I'm not doing right, and Q6 can actually do that? Anyway, MYM seems to be able to handle monthly deductions. In fact, it can apparently do better than that. That is, you can specify monthly, bimonthly, quarterly, even yearly. Anyway, is anyone aware of a comparitive study of the two programs? Or can someone just give me their own personal impressions? Maybe someone who has used both. Or maybe someone who is familiar with each could give me a capsule review? Anything would be greatly appreciated. If I keep MYM, I have to pay for it, and I don't know whether it's worth doing. If MYM is better than Q6, of course I will keep it. But if Q6 can do everything MYM can do (maybe even better), I won't. Thanks all! If you post a reply, please also cc me. Thanks.
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Subject: Re: Enough Freeman Bashing! Was: no-Free man propaganda machine: Freemanwith blood greetings from Israel From: mafifi@eis.calstate.edu (Marc A Afifi) Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services Lines: 16 pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman) writes: Peter, I believe this is your most succinct post to date. Since you have nothing to say, you say nothing! It's brilliant. Did you think of this all by yourself? -marc -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Some people are so narrow minded they can see through a crack in a door with both eyes. My opinions should be yours. My employer has no opinions. ______________________________________________________________________________
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From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) Subject: Re: thoughts on christians Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or. Lines: 19 In article <ofnWyG600WB699voA=@andrew.cmu.edu> pl1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Patrick C Leger) writes: >EVER HEAR OF >BAPTISM AT BIRTH? If that isn't preying on the young, I don't know what >is... > No, that's praying on the young. Preying on the young comes later, when the bright eyed little altar boy finds out what the priest really wears under that chasible. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away, and sank Manhattan out at sea. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From: b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (Stephen Tice) Subject: Re: US Government Sanctions Sacrilege News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: utarlg.uta.edu Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington Lines: 82 William December Starr writes... in a typical lawyer baiting fashion, as usual. (All the while ignoring every principle of the ACLU.) Good to see your still out there WDS. Surely we've been around the ring enough by now, that you know you can't spin me up with expletives. Let's see if there's anything left worth responding to... >Cyrus' "Achy Breaky Heart" ad infinitum until either Koresh surrenders or >the rest of the state of Texas is totally depopulated... :-) E for effort. Heard about the folks who live around foghorns and airports? >> Erect an Inverted Cross, or a Star of David broken asunder, out in >> front of the Davidians to provoke them. Or boom out Islamic prayers. >> Or worse. What temple would you destroy? What books would you burn? >> Will you kill clergy? Will you mock the Spirit of GOD before the >> innocent?? > >Sure I would. Why not? Seems right in character to me -- creature of the state. Btw, are you still happy with your presidents? >> If you in government have no respect for other's faith, and no respect >> for the lives and well being of those innocent children caught in this >> hell you've created -- why should anyone respect your lipservice of >> "rule of law?" > >What does rule of law have to do with respect for anyone's religious >faith? See the part about the children following the "and" in the first line above. As to a connection, your "cult" is "faith in rules". >> No matter who the criminals are, or what they've done (and it looks >> like there are criminals on both sides of the matter) -- their >> conviction is not worth the abuse you're causing. > >What abuse? Please be specific. Sure. My concern is the well being of the children. >> If you are willing to ignore the children, or heap abuse, insult, and >> sacrilege on the children inside the Davidian house -- then GOD REBUKE >> YOU. Best you learn directly from the Lord the corruption you're >> committing. In GOD's good time and way, the LORD judge you -- I can >> not. For truth be told I would send you all straight to hell -- and >> GOD would be right in sending me right along with you. > >Oh, fuck you and the God you rode in on, Stephen. If you can show the >legitimacy of God's claim of sovereignty over man, please do so. >Otherwise stop ranting and raving about him already. > >-- William December Starr <wdstarr@athena.mit.edu> {Interesting that you would respond "emotionally" in defense of the government. Maybe there is a beating heart there.} For the record though, the biggest-baddest goverment on earth claims the most sovereignty over man. Best I can tell God allows anyone to go to hell who wants to. Omnipotency logically determines that "allowing" and "sending" mean the same thing. (Mere human concepts of course.) So come on WDS. Why bother to try some flimsy facade of logic. Waco proves it's not needed -- the demonstration that government can walk over it's own rules in the name of justice has been made. No problem by me. Noted and announced -- for the record. Just giving the govern- ment it's due, and getting back to more worthwhile non-government concerns. | -- J -- | | stephen
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From: ci513@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tom Kelly) Subject: MGNOC ADDRESS? Article-I.D.: usenet.1prsuk$hvl Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA) Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu If anyone has the current Moto Guzzi National Owners Club address please e-mail it to me. Thanks in advance! T.K. --
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From: neuhaus@vier.informatik.uni-kl.de (Stephan Neuhaus (HiWi Mattern)) Subject: Re: Do we need the clipper for cheap security? Nntp-Posting-Host: vier.informatik.uni-kl.de Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany Lines: 39 gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal) writes: >Can someone tell me if hardware compression is or is not needed to run >digital speech down 14.4K? I think it is; I've heard it's not. Lets >say 8 bit samples. Would *raw* data at the corresponding sampling rate >be usable? If not, how fancy does the compression need to be? Note: I am *not* a cable freak, so I might have completely misunderstood what you said. Also, my math is frequently noted for being wrong, so you'll better check the calculations yourself. I assume that 14.4K means 14.4K Bits. So if we assume one start and one stopbit, and no protocol overhead, the effective number of bytes per second is 1.44K. Let's also assume that you do not want to transmit your speech in stereo, so that you can send 1,440 samples/sec. This corresponds to a Nyquist frequency of 720 Hz, which should be too low, especially if you think about the 8-bit low quality sound. Furthermore, your D/A converter will probably not present you with a signal that has been cut off at 720 Hz, but will instead alias in all the higher frequencies. (Although you can definitely build a filter to overcome that problem.) On the other hand, speech should be easily compressible. For example, you could form power spectra, or you could simply band-pass filter and then linearize the fourier transforms. It won't be CD quality sound, but it'll be discernible. The power spectrum method is very good in that respect. I have once programmed such a software compressor, and compression rates of 90% with relative errors due to linearization of less than 5% were common. Although I must say that these were musical sounds, not speech. Have fun. -- Stephan <neuhaus@informatik.uni-kl.de> sig closed for inventory. Please leave your pickaxe outside. PGP 2.2 public key available on request. Note the expiration date.
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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Orion drive in vacuum -- how? Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 12 In article <1993Apr17.053333.15696@sfu.ca> Leigh Palmer <palmer@sfu.ca> writes: >... a high explosive Orion prototype flew (in the atmosphere) in San >Diego back in 1957 or 1958... I feel sure >that someone must have film of that experiment, and I'd really like to >see it. Has anyone out there seen it? The National Air & Space Museum has both the prototype and the film. When I was there, some years ago, they had the prototype on display and the film continuously repeating. -- All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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From: hungjenc@usc.edu (Hung-Jen Chen) Subject: test Article-I.D.: phakt.1pqgltINN9dg Distribution: na Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA test Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu
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From: James Leo Belliveau <jbc9+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: First Bike?? Organization: Freshman, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu Anyone, I am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle, and to put it bluntly, it sucks. I really would like some advice on what would be a good starter bike for me. I do know one thing however, I need to make my first bike a good one, because buying a second any time soon is out of the question. I am specifically interested in racing bikes, (CBR 600 F2, GSX-R 750). I know that this may sound kind of crazy considering that I've never had a bike before, but I am responsible, a fast learner, and in love. Please give me any advice that you think would help me in my search, including places to look or even specific bikes that you want to sell me. Thanks :-) Jamie Belliveau (jbc9@andrew.cmu.edu)
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From: pilon@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (T.J. Pilon) Subject: My IIcx won't turn on... Nntp-Posting-Host: aix02.ecs.rpi.edu Lines: 14 Anyone know what would cause my IIcx to not turn on when I hit the keyboard switch? The one in the back of the machine doesn't work either... The only way I can turn it on is to unplug the machine for a few minutes, then plug it back in and hit the power switch in the back immediately... Sometimes this doesn't even work for a long time... I remember hearing about this problem a long time ago, and that a logic board failure was mentioned as the source of the problem...is this true? Thanks, T.J. Pilon pilon@rpi.edu
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From: kn1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Kimball Ng) Subject: Re: Laser vs Bubblejet? Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Reply-To: kn1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Kimball Ng) Organization: Columbia University Lines: 44 kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes: >One other thing... there are bubblejets, and then there are BubbleJets. >There are a few bubblejets out there that produce rather mediocre output >(such as HP's dinky little BubbleJet), whereas most produce really good >looking output (such as HP's DeskJets). IBM and Canon both produce some of >the really good style bubblejets. >P.S. -- If you're in the market for a portable bubblejet printer, I can >highly recommend the HP Portable DeskJet, although I've heard the portable >Canons are good too (I needed PCL support, myself). With the DeskJet >Portable, you even get an undocumented PCMCIA card slot! I second that suggestion. Although I don't own the HP Portable Deskjet, I *do* own the HP Deskjet 500. It gives the nicest outputs, with only a minor loss of quality. For all intensive purposes (papers, letters, resumes), I treat my Deskjet like a laser printer (You *do* have to look a bit closely to see the blurs in the characters). Only one grudge, the ink that HP gives you does smudge rather quickly in the presence of moisture (Even though the ink is waterproof). However, you would have to spend about $500 more for laser quality. The cannon bubblejets are nice, however they don't seem to have as much support (eg: drivers for popular programs) as the HP ink-jets. Also HP Deskjet (regular,plus,500,500c) accepts xerox paper (I believe that the cut-sheet feeder is an option for the cannon bubblejet). If you don't mind refilling your printer with cheap ink (say fountain-pen ink), then the HP deskjets are *very* cheap to maintain (I paid $3.50 for my last bottle of ink and I expect it to last 9 months). -Kimball (who doesn't work for HP, but just loves his printer very much!) PS: I have a question for you netters, I'm too afraid to refill with the waterproof inks they sell in art-supply houses because I had brought a bottle of waterproof ink and it clogged up my cartridge. I wonder what is a 'good' waterproof ink (aside from buying refill-kits) to refill my cartridge?
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From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) Subject: Re: free moral agency and Jeff Clark Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany Lines: 30 In article <healta.136.734813153@saturn.wwc.edu> healta@saturn.wwc.edu (TAMMY R HEALY) writes: (Deletion) >You also said,"Why did millions suffer for what Adam and Ee did? Seems a >pretty sick way of going about creating a universe..." > >I'm gonna respond by giving a small theology lesson--forgive me, I used >to be a theology major. >First of all, I believe that this planet is involved in a cosmic struggle-- >"the Great Controversy betweed Christ and Satan" (i borrowed a book title). >God has to consider the interests of the entire universe when making >decisions. (Deletion) An universe it has created. By the way, can you tell me why it is less tyrannic to let one of one's own creatures do what it likes to others? By your definitions, your god has created Satan with full knowledge what would happen - including every choice of Satan. Can you explain us what Free Will is, and how it goes along with omniscience? Didn't your god know everything that would happen even before it created the world? Why is it concerned about being a tyrant when noone would care if everything was fine for them? That the whole idea comes from the possibility to abuse power, something your god introduced according to your description? By the way, are you sure that you have read the FAQ? Especially the part about preaching? Benedikt
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From: hein@eurom.rhein-main.de (Hein Roehrig) Subject: Windows NT und X-Windows? Lines: 15 Organization: Free Software Association of Germany I am not sure whether I am here in the right area, but does anybody here know whether Windows NT does/will include a X Windows server so that it can run X Window applications remotely? This is because we are considering at our university to use PC's for word processing and program development, whereas the bigger jobs are to be run either on SUN workstations or on Fujitsu super computers. Thank you very much in advance, Hein. ---- eurom: Free Multiline Unix BBS Home of the FSAG Frankfurt/Main,Germany Data: ++49-69-6312934
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From: xz775327@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Xia Zhao) Subject: more on radiosity Nntp-Posting-Host: zirkel.lance.colostate.edu Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College Keywords: radiosity Lines: 45 In article <1993Apr19.131239.11670@aragorn.unibe.ch>, you write: |> |> |> Let's be serious... I'm working on a radiosity package, written in C++. |> I would like to make it public domain. I'll announce it in c.g. the minute |> I finished it. |> |> That were the good news. The bad news: It'll take another 2 months (at least) |> to finish it. Are you using the traditional radiosity method, progressive refinement, or something else in your package? If you need to project patches on the hemi-cube surfaces, what technique are you using? Do you have hardware to facilitate the projection? |> |> In the meantime you may have a look at the file |> Radiosity_code.tar.Z |> located at |> compute1.cc.ncsu.edu What are the guest username and password for this ftp site? |> |> (there are some other locations; have a look at archie to get the nearest) |> |> Hope that'll help. |> |> Yours |> |> Stephan |> Thanks, Stephan. Josephine
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From: baker@DFWVX1.DALLAS.GEOQUEST.SLB.COM Subject: insurance says car is totalled. Nntp-Posting-Host: dfwvx1.dallas.geoquest.slb.com Reply-To: baker@dfwdsr.sinet.slb.com Organization: Schlumberger Data Services - Dallas Lines: 26 on wednesday morning, another driver decided to illegally turn left in front of me, doing great damage to my car (Honda Civic). i have yet to pay off the car, and the body shop says the insurance company wants to total the car. i haven't been able to get in touch with the person handling my claim, so i checked on some things: 1) my payout is $3700.00 2) Blue Book retail is $5650.00 3) loan value is $4450.00 4) trade-in value is $4000.00 could anyone give me any advice on what i should/could do if the insurance company does not give me a reasonable amount for the loss of the car. thanks, james baker baker@dfwvx1.dallas.geoquest.slb.com
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From: lucio@proxima.alt.za (Lucio de Re) Subject: Re: atheist? Reply-To: lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA Organization: MegaByte Digital Telecommunications Lines: 33 Tony Lezard <tony@mantis.co.uk> writes: >My opinion is that the strong atheist position requires too much >belief for me to be comfortable with. Any strong atheists out there >care to comment? As far as I can tell, strong atheists are far >outnumbered on alt.atheism by weak atheists. At the cost of repudiating the FAQ, I think too much is made of the strong vs weak atheism issue, although in the context of alt.atheism, where we're continually attacked on the basis that strong atheists "believe" in the non-existence of god, I think the separation is a valid one. To cover my arse, what I'm trying to say is that there is an infinitely grey area between weak and strong, as well as between strong and the unattainable mathematical atheism (I wish!). Whereas I _logically_ can only support the weak atheist position, in effect I am a strong atheist (and wish I could be a mathematical one). To justify my strong atheist position I believe I need only show that the evidence presented in favour of any of the gods under scrutiny is faulty. If I read the FAQ correctly, no argument for the existence of god (generic, as represented by mainstream theologians) has ever been found to be unassailable. To me this is adequate evidence that the _real_god_ is undefinable (or at least no definition has yet been found to be watertight), which in turn I accept as sufficient to base a disbelief in each and every conceivable god. I'm a little fuzzy on the edges, though, so opinions are welcome (but perhaps we should change the thread subject). -- Lucio de Re (lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA) - tab stops at four.
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From: psyrobtw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) Subject: [lds] Rick's reply Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 201 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu Rick Anderson replied to my letter with... ra> In article <C5ELp2.L0C@acsu.buffalo.edu>, ra> psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) says: ra> ra> > Well, Jason, it's heretical in a few ways. The first point is that ra> > this equates Lucifer and Jesus as being the same type of being. ra> > However, Lucifer is a created being: "Thou [wast] perfect in thy ra> > ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in ra> > thee." (Ezekiel 28:15). While Jesus is uncreated, and the Creator of ra> > all things: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with ra> > God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. ra> > All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made ra> > that was made." (John 1:1-3) "And he is before all things, and by ra> > him all things consist." (Colossians 1:17) ra> ra> Your inference from the Ezekiel and John passages that Lucifer was ra> "created" and that Jesus was not depends on a particular interpetation of ra> the word "create" -- one with which many Christians may not agree. ra> Granted the Mormon belief that all of God's children (including Christ ra> and Lucifer) are eternally existent intelligences which were "organized" ra> into spirit children by God, the term "creation" can apply equally well ra> to both of those passages. Just briefly, on something that you mentioned in passing. You refer to differing interpretations of "create," and say that many Christians may not agree. So what? That is really irrelevant. We do not base our faith on how many people think one way or another, do we? The bottom line is truth, regardless of popularity of opinions. Also, I find it rather strange that in trying to persuade that created and eternally existent are equivalent, you say "granted the Mormon belief..." You can't grant your conclusion and then expect the point to have been addressed. In order to reply to the issue, you have to address and answer the point that was raised, and not just jump to the conclusion that you grant. The Bible states that Lucifer was created. The Bible states that Jesus is the creator of all. The contradiction that we have is that the LDS belief is that Jesus and Lucifer were the same. ra> > Your point that we all are brothers of Jesus and Lucifer is also ra> > heretical, since we are not innately brothers and sisters of Christ. ra> > We are adopted, "For ye have not received the spirit of bondage ra> > again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby ra> > we cry, Abba, Father." (Romans 8:15); and not the natural children ra> > of God. It is only through faith that we even enter the family of ra> > God; "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." ra> > (Galatians 3:26). And it is only through the manifestation of this ra> > faith in receiving Jesus that we are become the sons of God. "But ra> > as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of ra> > God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not ra> > of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but ra> > of God." (John 1:12-13) ra> ra> Has it occured to you, Robert, that being "born of" someone or being ra> of that person (or Person)'s "family" may be a symbolic term in the New ra> Testament? Mormons believe that we are "adopted" into the House of ra> Israel through baptism and faith in Christ, although some have expressed ra> belief that this does evince a physical change in our bodies. The Mormon belief is that all are children of God. Literally. There is nothing symbolic about it. This however, contradicts what the Bible says. The Bible teaches that not everyone is a child of God: The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one]; (Matthew 13:38) I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. (John 8:38) Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God. Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (John 8:41-44) And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, [thou] child of the devil, [thou] enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? (Acts 13:10) Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: (Ephesians 2:2) In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. (1 John 3:10) One becomes a child of God... But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: (John 1:12) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. (1 John 3:1-2) ...when he is born again through faith in Jesus Christ: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:13) Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (Ephesians 1:5) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: (Romans 8:14-16) Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. (1 John 4:7) Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. (1 John 5:1) For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26) ra> > We are told that, "And this is life eternal, that they might know ra> > thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." ra> > (John 17:3). Life eternal is to know the only true God. Yet the ra> > doctrines of the LDS that I have mentioned portray a vastly ra> > different Jesus, a Jesus that cannot be reconciled with the Jesus of ra> > the Bible. They are so far removed from each other that to proclaim ra> > one as being true denies the other from being true. According to the ra> > Bible, eternal life is dependent on knowing the only true God, and ra> > not the construct of imagination. ra> ra> ra> Robert, with all due respect, who died and left you Chief Arbiter of ra> Correct Biblical Interpretation? I don't mean to be snotty about this, ra> but the fact is that the Bible is so differently interpreted by different ra> groups of Biblical scholars (what do you think of the Jehovah's ra> Witnesses, for example?) that to make reference to the "Jesus of the ra> Bible" is simply ridiculous. Whose "Jesus of the Bible" do you mean? This is really a red herring. It doesn't address any issue raised, but rather, it seeks to obfuscate. The fact that some groups try to read something into the Bible, doesn't change what the Bible teaches. For example, the fact that the Jehovah's Witnesses deny the Deity of Christ does not alter what the Bible teaches [ "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;" (Titus 2:13),"Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:" (2 Peter 1:1)] on the Deity of Christ. We first look to the Bible to see what it teaches. To discount, or not even address, what the Bible teaches because there are some groups that have differing views is self-defeating. To see what the Bible teaches, you have to look at the Bible. ra> > "Our Lord's mortality was essential to his own salvation" (_The ra> > Promised Messiah_, p. 456), "He had to work out his own salvation by ra> > doing the will of the Father in all things" (ibid., p.54), "he had ra> > to be baptized to gain admission to the celestial kingdom" (_Mormon ra> > Doctrine_, p.71). ra> ra> Welcome to the wonderful world of Mormon paradoctrine, Robert. The ra> above books are by the late Bruce R. McConkie, a former general authority ra> of the LDS Church. Those books were not published by the Church, nor do ra> they constitute "offical doctrine." They consist of his opinions. Now, ra> does that mean that what he says is not true? Not at all; I'll have to ra> think about the idea of Christ's personal salvation before I come to any ra> conclusions myself. The conclusions I come to may seem "heretical" to ra> you, but I'm prepared to accept that. I find this rather curious. When I mentioned that the Mormon belief is that Jesus needed to be saved, I put forward some quotes from the late apostle, Bruce McConkie. The curious part is that no one addressed the issue of `Jesus needing to be saved.' Rick comes the closest with his "I have my own conclusions" to addressing the point. Most of the other replies have instead hop-scotched to the issue of Bruce McConkie and whether his views were 'official doctrine.' I don't think that it matters if McConkie's views were canon. That is not the issue. Were McConkie's writings indicative of Mormon belief on this subject is the real issue. The indication from Rick is that they may certainly be. ============================= Robert Weiss psyrobtw@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: pminocha@frx400.intel.com (Punit Minocha - QRE) Subject: SAAB Mailing list Organization: Intel Corporation Lines: 9 Distribution: usa NNTP-Posting-Host: frx400.intel.com Keywords: Saab Could someone out there please tell me how I could get onto the Saab mailing list. Specifically I need the address and instructions on what to do. Thanks in advance Pete
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From: rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy) Subject: Re: How many homosexuals are there? Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: usa Lines: 28 In article <1qmtl1$71r@gondor.sdsu.edu> cosc0000@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Riyadh Al-ha jmoosa) writes: >kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes: >> Perhaps 1%, but most likely not more than 2%. A new study >> (discrediting Kinsey) says so. >> -- >> The views expressed herein are | Theodore A. Kaldis >> my own only. Do you seriously | kaldis@remus.rutgers.edu >> believe that a major university | {...}!rutgers!remus.rutgers.edu!kaldis >> as this would hold such views??? | > > My understanding from my psycology classes is that the percentage is > more like 10-12% world wide. I would really like to know your source > for the 1-2% figure. > > Riyadh Moosa. > SDSU-Chemistry. > cosc0000@ucssun1.sdsu.edu Some survey conducted by the U.S. government and some group (I don't know which) did what they were calling on all the news shows this morning, "The most comprehensive survey of sexuality in the past 50 years". Not an exact quote, but you get the idea. This low percentage is merely one more in a ton of evidence disproving the 10% theory. Ryan
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From: monty%roscom@think.com (Monty Solomon) Subject: PowerBook 170 4/40 Expires: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 00:43:13 GMT Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com> Organization: Proponent Lines: 8 The PowerBook 170 4/40 with Fax/Data modem is available thru CitiBank's CitiDollars catalog for $1995.00 + $19.95 S/H (+ 500 CitiDollars). The modem is 2400 bps data, 9600 bps fax (send only). -- # Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA 01701-0405 # monty%roscom@think.com
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From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) Subject: He has risen! Organization: Case Western Reserve University Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu Our Lord and Savior David Keresh has risen! He has been seen alive! Spread the word! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "My sole intention was learning to fly."
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From: dsnyder@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil Subject: Re: Wanted: Trombone for a beginner Distribution: world Organization: USAF AL/CFH, WPAFB, Dayton, OH Lines: 31 In article <1qu43p$aam@fnnews.fnal.gov>, Greg Schuweiler <schuweiler@fnal.gov> writes: > > Would like to purchase a trombone for a 9 year old because > > "This really really want I want to play daddy I'll practice everyday and > I'll even keep my room really clean." > > Well he must really mean it. Would like to find a used one. Please > e-mail me at > > schuweiler@fnal.gov > > > Greg Schuweiler schuweiler@fnal.gov I've got a used one for sale. I used it in high school and just don't have the occasion to get it out and play it anymore. Email me and we can work out something on it. I can't get email to you for some reason. David-- --------------------------------------------------------------------- David B. Snyder Logicon Technical Services Inc. dsnyder@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil Wright-Patterson Air Force Base 513-255-5165 Dayton, Ohio USA --------------------------------------------------------------------- It is said that GOD doesn't subtract from ones' time on earth, those hours spent flying. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1946 Cessna 140 N76234 "The lady in waiting" Owner/Operator --------------------------------------------------------------------- Opinions expressed are my own and not those of Logicon or the USAF. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: rgooch@rp.CSIRO.AU (Richard Gooch) Subject: Re: Animation with XPutImage()? Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics/Australia Telescope National Facility Lines: 27 In article <WHALEY.93Apr22110027@sigma.kpc.com>, whaley@sigma.kpc.com (Ken Whaley) writes: > One advanage of MIT-SHM is that if your images are large, you don't end up > growing the size of the server process to hold them. > Correct. Most X servers use a version of malloc(3) which will not return memory to the OS (ie. the X server might free(3) a Pixmap, but the heap does not shrink). > One disadvantage of the MIT-SHM is that, in its sample implementation, > there is no provision for elegantly cleaning up the shared memory segments > if the client dies a sudden, violent death (e.g., "kill"). You have to > be mindful of cluttering up the system with zombie shared memory segments. > Well, part of the routines I mentioned do a dirty little trick to get around that problem. First, I create the shared memory segment, attach the client, attach the X server, and then remove (!) the segment. If you read the man pages on removing of shared memory segments, you will see that the segment only dies after all attachments are gone. Now, if the client dies, that's one attachment gone (the OS cleans up for you) and since the X server notices the client has dies, frees up it's resources, including detaching from the segment: there goes the last attachment. No more shared memory segment. Terrible, but it works. Regards, Richard Gooch....