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8600 | From: Marc VanHeyningen <mvanheyn@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Clipper chip -- technical details
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Indiana University
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Thus said djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein):
>Short summary of what Bellovin says Hellman says the NSA says: There is
>a global key G, plus one key U_C for each chip C. The user can choose a
>new session key K_P for each phone call P he makes. Chip C knows three
>keys: G, its own U_C, and the user's K_P. The government as a whole
>knows G and every U_C. Apparently a message M is encrypted as
>E_G(E_{U_C}(K_P),C) , E_{K_P}(M). That's it.
>
>The system as described here can't possibly work. What happens when
>someone plugs the above ciphertext into a receiving chip? To get M
>the receiving chip needs K_P; to get K_P the receiving chip needs U_C.
>The only information it can work with is C. If U_C can be computed
>from C then the system is cryptographically useless and the ``key
>escrow'' is bullshit. Otherwise how is a message decrypted?
Given the description of the algorithm given, the only plausible
explantion I can find is that K_P must be agreed to out of bandwidth
in advance by the two parties; i.e. it's a standard shared symmetric
key.
--
Marc VanHeyningen mvanheyn@cs.indiana.edu MIME & RIPEM accepted
Security through Diversion: n. Theory which states that the public
availability of good computer games is vital to maintaining system
safety. Contrast Security through Obscurity.
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8601 | From: jerry@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Gerald Lanza)
Subject: Re: Seeking Moe Berg reference/info
Organization: Olivetti North America (Shelton, CT)
Lines: 23
In article <8813@blue.cis.pitt.edu> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
>I seem to have misplaced the baseball bibliography that was posted here
>recently. (That's what happens when you have to split a heap of disorganized
>files from one machine among two others.) Could some kind soul repost the
>bibliography, or mail me a copy?
>
>Also, in particular, a colleague of mine is looking for any information he
>can find on Moe Berg, catcher/linguist/espion of WW2. Any references (or
>anecdotes, for that matter) would be appreciated.
>
>Dave
>
I believe SI had an in-depth article on Moe a while ago. I remember
that the article revealed some new facts regarding the secretive
Moe. My SI subscription expired this past February, the second of
two years that I received same. Therefore my guess is that the
article appeared sometime in 1991-92.
Can anyone else be more definitive as to a date of the SI article ?
jerry
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8602 | From: min@stella.skku.ac.KR (Hyoung Bok Min)
Subject: subscribe
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 3
To: expert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
subscribe min@stella.skku.ac.kr
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8603 | From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
Subject: Re: guns in backcountry? no thanks
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Lines: 35
In article <1993Apr16.174436.22897@midway.uchicago.edu> pkgeragh@gsbphd.uchicago.edu (Kevin Geraghty) writes:
>wrong about the whole guns-for-protection mindset, it ignores the
>systemic effects of cumulative individual actions. If you want fire
>insurance on your house that's prudent and it has no effect on me; but
>if you and a bunch of other paranoids are packing handguns in the
>backcountry it makes me, and anyone else who doesn't chose to protect
>himself in this manner, pretty f**king nervous.
Why? If you're not a threat, you're not affected at all.
>I mean, take this to its logical conclusion, suppose we all carried
>handguns all the time, for protection from all the other people
>carrying handguns. Would we collectively be, or feel, safer? Hell no.
>We'd feel a lot more insecure.
Why? I note that the available psych info says that feelings of
security INCREASE. The victimization stats say that that increase
is rational.
>Another systemic effect of all the "good" people protecting themselves
>is that the "bad" people are going to modify their behavior in
>response:
Yes, they are, but how?
>they're going to be much itchier and much more willing to
>kill people in the course of routine muggings if they think their
Nope - that doesn't happen. Instead the switch (among those who
change behaviors) to property crimes. That's an improvement even if
the economic take is unchanged. Sure - not everyone switches, but
they were killing before.
-andy
--
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8604 | From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: Dumbest Driver Action
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Lines: 41
In <C5Dq2n.5uB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mwbg9715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Wayne Blunier) writes:
>jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>>I wish I had the figures with me to back me up, but I recall
>>statistics showing that women tended to have more accidents than men
>>but the damage was generally quite minor. Men had fewer but far more
>>expensive accidents. The rate of total vehicle destruction was
>>*significantly* higher for men than women, particularly in the younger
>>male age groups.
>>IMHO social considerations are probably the strongest influence here,
>>possibly more so than any difference between the sexes. Social
>>influences often affect the type of car that's bought and the
>>situations the car is used in, and the type of car and driving
>>situations have a major effect on accident risk. Thus if society
>>expects you to buy a Mustang and race it on the street you're more
>>likely to do it, and our society expects that of males more than
>>females.
>I agree with some of your social influences, such as driving conditions,
>but lets get real here. Guys don't drag race becuase there expected too,
>we do it becuase its fun! (and we find out whose car is faster).
>Guys drive different than women becuase there men. When a driver is
>driving 'unusually', I can usually figure out if it is a male or female
>driver without looking at the driver.
>Social influences may give a person more reason to buy a vehicle that
>has a certain amount of character which he or she would like associated
>with. Do you change your driving habits when no one is around?
Sheesh! I don't know what kind of women they have where you guys live,
but there are some ladies here who will blow your doors off. Or at least
they will try to, but we just can't let the youngsters get too uppity
with us old folks :-).
>>My $.02.
>Mark B.
>>jim frost
>>jimf@centerline.com
Bob
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8605 | From: hugo@hydra.unm.edu (patrice cummings)
Subject: polygon orientation in DXF?
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Lines: 21
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.unm.edu
Hi. I'm writing a program to convert .dxf files to a database
format used by a 3D graphics program I've written. My program stores
the points of a polygon in CCW order. I've used 3D Concepts a
little and it seems that the points are stored in the order
they are drawn.
Does the DXF format have a way of indicating which order the
points are stored in, CW or CCW? Its easy enough to convert,
but if I don't know which way they are stored, I dont know
which direction the polygon should be visible from.
If DXF doesn't handle this, can anyone recommend a workaround?
The best I can think of is to create two polygons for each one
in the DXF file, one stored CW and the other CCW. But that
doubles the number of polygons and decreases speed...
Thanks in advance for any help,
Patrice
hugo@hydra.unm.edu
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8606 | Subject: ==> MS Windows Sound System, Text to Speach?
From: HADAM@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca
Organization: BC Systems Corporation
Nntp-Posting-Host: bcsc02.gov.bc.ca
Lines: 4
Hi all News Group users:
Does anyone know whether there is some software which will let one do
Text to Speach like the Sound Blaster does?
Hal Adam, HADAM@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca
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8607 | From: mark@bilpin.co.uk (Mark Allerton)
Subject: FOR SALE - MACINTOSH SE/30
Organization: SRL Data
Lines: 26
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
FOR SALE
Apple Macintosh SE/30
8MB RAM, 80MB HD
System 7.1 Installed
RasterOps 264/30 24-bit video card for SE/30
Apple 13" Monitor
Targus carrying case
I'm after offers in the region of 1250 pounds. I'm in the
north London area.
Contact Mark Allerton
E-Mail:
pascal@cix.compulink.co.uk
mark@bilpin.co.uk
Phone:
081 341 6400 (evenings/weekends)
071 267 2561 (office hours)
+-----------------------------------+
| Mark Allerton |
| SRL Data |
| mark@bilpin.co.uk |
| pascal@cix.compulink.co.uk |
+-----------------------------------+
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8608 | From: ifarqhar@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Ian Farquhar)
Subject: Re: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks only
Organization: Macquarie University, Sydney Australia
Lines: 35
NNTP-Posting-Host: laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au
In article <19930419.155204.305@almaden.ibm.com> ameline@vnet.IBM.COM (Ian Ameline) writes:
> I also believe that someone will reverse engineer the clipper chip,
>and knowlege of the algorithm will likely be fairly widespread. Any back-
>doors or weaknesses would further discredit the scheme, and help grow
>the market demand for a secure alternative.
I must admit that this point has been running through my mind for most of
the discussion: one the dice are out there, it won't be long before someone
decaps it and, after a bit of work, has full details of the Clipper
algorythm. This isn't trivial to do, but then again, it is not impossibly
difficult either. Any half way decent VLSI design student should be able
to take a photograph of a technology s/he is familiar with, and given a
description of the input, output, control and supply lines, figure out
the function of various subsystems on the die. Indeed, this is not an
uncommon exercise performed during training (because it makes you think
about design decisions made by other designers.
I could speculate that these chips are going to be manufactured using
"tamperproof" carriers (unlikely - such techniques are *very* expensive
and this thing is supposed to be relatively cheap to produce), or that
there will be some legal or legislative framework to prevent publication
of the algorythm (unlikely - please correct me if I am wrong but aren't these
supposed to be sold internationally?). I suppose that the most likely
reason the algorythm is remaining secret for the moment is that some idiot
bureaucrat, untrammeled by the realities of the situation, decided that
"well, we should keep it a secret because it is supposed to be secret,
isn't it?"
Just some random thoughts...
--
Ian Farquhar Phone : + 61 2 805-9400
Office of Computing Services Fax : + 61 2 805-7433
Macquarie University NSW 2109 Also : + 61 2 805-7420
Australia EMail : ifarqhar@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au.
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8609 | From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: Gotta a Question....
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Lines: 24
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g215a-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
In article <47844@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:
>In article <cjkuo.68.0@symantec.com>, cjkuo@symantec.com (Jimmy Kuo) writes:
> |> gt0523e@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Andre Mule) writes:
> ....
> |> >>What is the maximum runs allowed before a stopper can get credit for a
> |> >>relief? i.e. if a stopper comes in with a 5 run lead does he getcredit
> |> >> with the save.
> |> >If you come in and pitch the last three innings,and your team was ahead
> |> >when you got out there and wins the game, you get a save.
> |> Sort'a correct. If you pitched at least 3 innings,entered with your team
> |> in the lead, was the pitcher when the game ended,the game was never tied
> |> during your stint, and your team won, you get a save.
> Well, the rulebook says that in the opinion of the scorer, you must have
> "pitched effectively" for your 3 innings - this save is not automatic,
> unlike the others.
Someone in SABR actually looked at these games a few years ago
and found that the official scorer awarded the save in every one
of the games - even those in which the pitcher had pitched badly
(allowing 4 or 5 runs).
seeing, hearing (my two sense worth)
john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
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8610 | From: paladin@world.std.com (Thomas G Schlatter)
Subject: Looking for Tom Haapanen
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 11
I'm trying to find Tom Haapanen, formerly tom@wes.on.ca
who was the keeper of the FAQ for this newsgroup.
He was working at Watrerloo Engineering Software,
but netfind can't even find that (but it may have
been a uucp connection). If anyone knows how to
contact Tom, please let me know.
Thanks,
Tom Schlatter
paladin@world.std.com
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8611 | From: walljm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Wall)
Subject: Incredible Car...Incredible Price
Article-I.D.: mentor.C52vIy.8Do
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Lines: 18
My brother is preparing to pay another year
of college expenses and asked me to post this.
1987 Alfa Romeo
Gold Milano Model
V-6 Engine
Power Everything!
Seats 4 comfortably
Looks / runs great
$3,600 O.B.O.
Contact: Brian Wall
(214) 393-1216
if interested (Dallas Area)
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8612 | From: gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone)
Subject: Impeach Clinton, Reno
Summary: civil rights violations
Keywords: confession TV
Reply-To: glenns@eas.gatech.edu
Organization: The Group W Bench
Lines: 21
Fact: Both Janet Reno and Bill Clinton have admitted responsibility,
even grief, over the deaths in Waco.
Fact: Regardless of who started the fire, there are more than enough
things on tape to make a civil rights case against these two.
Cruel and unusual punishment (dying tortured rabbits on tape?)
come to mind.
Fact: It is a federal felony to infringe civil rights under color of
law; where death is involved, this offense carries a penalty
of life in prison.
Fact: Impeachment is allowable for "high crimes and misdemeanors."
Anything that's a federal felony should qualify.
Conclusion: We have NO CHOICE, if we are an honest people, but to
impeach Mr. Clinton, and remove Reno from office.
Glenn R. Stone (glenns@eas.gatech.edu)
wearer of asbestos underoos
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8613 | From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter?
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Lines: 20
> > > Also, peri[jove]s of Gehrels3 were:
> > >
> > > April 1973 83 jupiter radii
> > > August 1970 ~3 jupiter radii
> > Where 1 Jupiter radius = 71,000 km = 44,000 mi = 0.0005 AU. ...
> Sorry, _perijoves_...I'm not used to talking this language.
Thanks again. One final question. The name Gehrels wasn't known to
me before this thread came up, but the May issue of Scientific American
has an article about the "Inconstant Cosmos", with a photo of Neil
Gehrels, project scientist for NASA's Compton Gamma Ray Observatory.
Same person?
--
Mark Brader, SoftQuad Inc., Toronto "Information! ... We want information!"
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com -- The Prisoner
This article is in the public domain.
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8614 | From: kennehra@logic.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan)
Subject: subliminal message flashing on TV
Organization: Clarkson University
Lines: 11
Nntp-Posting-Host: logic.clarkson.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Hi. I was doing research on subliminal suggestion for a psychology
paper, and I read that one researcher flashed hidden messages on the
TV screen at 1/200ths of a second. Is that possible? I thought the
maximum rate the TV was even capable of displaying images was 1/30th
of a second. (or 1/60th of a second for an image composed of only odd
or even scan lines)
- Rich
kennehra@logic.camp.clarkson.edu
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8615 | From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: Seventh Century A.D. Armenian Math Problems
Keywords: philosphy, Greece, Persians, math
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Lines: 366
From: _Quantum_ Magazine, March/April 1993 pages 42-46
The Problem Book of Anania of Shirak
------------------------------------
"On the ancient peak of Ararat
The centuries have come like seconds
And passed on."
-Avetik Issahakian
by Yuri Danilov
Some years ago Journalists interviewing celebrities liked to ask them: "What
books would you take with you if you were to go off on a space flight?" And
though the number of books allowed on the trip varied from 10 to 30,
depending on the type of spacecraft and the generosity of the interviewer,
and celebrities are people of the most varied tastes, ages, and professions,
not one of them dared to say that he or she would want to take with them at
least one book of arithmetic problems.
Some of these people certainly excluded this kind of literature because they
were trained in the humanities and had nothing but scorn for "numbers" (though
secretly afraid of them). Others steered clear of such puzzle books because
they were masters of incomparably more difficult branches of modern
mathematics and didn't mind saying for all the world to hear that they didn't
know how to solve mere arithmetic problems. Professional mathematicians were
no exception. Here's what the Russian mathematician Alexander Khinchin, a
specialist in statistics, wrote about arithmetic: "I willingly confess that
any time a fifth-grader asked me to help solve an arithmetic problem, it was
a hard work for me, and sometimes I failed completely. Of course, like most of
my friends, I could easily solve the problem by the natural algebraic route
--constructing equations or sets of equations. But we were supposed to avoid
using algebraic analysis at all costs! . . . By the way, it's a fact that is
well known and oft repeated that, as a rule, neither high school graduates,
nor students at teaching colleges, nor teachers beginning their careers
(nor, I must add, scientific researchers) can solve arithmetic problems. It
seems the only people in the world who are able to solve them are fifth-grade
teachers."
Now, I'm not insisting that a book of arithmetic problems be included in the
bookbag of anyone flying into space. But a sense of justice induces me to
recommend one particular problem book, one that will satisfy the most
fastidious taste and supply food for thought sufficient not only for a
relatively short flight to the Moon but for a extended space voyage--say, to
Venus and back.
One for the "road"
They both took out the books they brought for the road. Kingsley
glanced at the Royal Astronomer's book and saw a bright cover with
a group of cutthroats shooting at each other with revolvers. "God
knows what this kind of stuff leads to," thought Kingsley.
The Royal Astronomer looked at Kingsley's book and saw the History
of Herodotus. "Good Lord, next he'll be reading Thucydides," thought
the Royal Astronomer.
--Fred Hoyle, The Black Cloud
The book I'm talking about isn't very big, but its 24 problems constitute 24
elegant miniatures from seventh-century Armenia. Naive and wise at the same
time, rich in striking detail and the bright coloration of the period, these
problems are reminiscent of the reliefs on the famous monument of Armenian
architecture, the church on the island of Akhtamar in Lake Van (in what is
now Turkey_. They are as inseparable from the image of Armenia as the elegant
letters of the Armenian alphabet, invented by Mesrop Mashtots, or the songs of
Komitas, or the paintings of Saryan.
An edition of these incredibly beautiful problems has long been a
bibliographic rarity. It was published under the title Problems and Solutions
of Vardapet [1] Anania of Shirak, Armenian Mathematician of the Seventh
Century (translated and published by I. A. Orbeli, Petrograd, 1918).
The abundance of close observations and wide-ranging information about the way
of life and customs of that remote epoch when Anania of Shirak lived and
worked have actually rendered a disservice to his problem book. For many years
the book was known only to researchers in the humanities--specialists in
Armenian history who jealously guarded their treasure and wouldn't let just
anyone see it. Even now, after research by K. P. Patkanov, the learned monk
Father Kaloust, J.I. Orbeli, A. Abramyan, V. K. Chaloyan, and others has
brought the works of Anania of Shirak to light in scholarly circles, the
general reader remains ignorant of the very existence of this remarkable
problem book.
Vardapet Anania of Shirak
Once fell in love with the art of calculation, I thought that no
philosophical notion can be constructed without number, considering
it the mother of all wisdom.
--Anania of Shirak
Among ancient Armenian thinkers, Vardapet Anania of Shirak stands out because
of the breadth of his interests and the unique mathematical orientation of his
work. Some of his works have been preserved. In addition to the Problems and
Solutions, the following tracts have found a special place in the estimation
of scholars: On Weights and Measures, Cosmography and Calendrical Theory, and
Armenian Geography of the Seventh Century A.D. (the authorship of the last
work was long attributed to another outstanding thinker of ancient Armenia,
Movses of Khoren).
In his autobiography, Anania of Shirak has this to say about himself:
I, Anania of Shirak, having studied all the science of our
Armenian land and having learned the Holy Scripture intimately,
in the expression of the psalmist, "every day I illuminated the
eyes of my mind." Feeling myself lacking in the art of calculation,
I came to the conclusion that it is fruitless to study philosophy,
the mother of all sciences, without number. I could find in Armenia
neither a man versed in philosophy nor books that explained the
sciences. I therefore went to Greece and met in Theodosiople a man
named Iliazar who was well versed in ecclesiastical works. He told me
that in Forth Armenia [2] there lived a famous mathematician,
Christosatur. I went this person and spent six months with him. But
soon I noticed that Christosatur was a master not of all science but
only of certain fragmentary facts.
I then went to Constantinople, where I met acquaintances who told me:
"Why did you go so far, when much closer to us, in Trebizon, on the
coast of Pontus [3] lives the Byzantine vardapet Tyukhik. He is full
of wisdom, is known to kings, and knows Armenian literature." I asked
them how they knew this. They answered: "We saw ourselves that many
people traveled long distances to become pupils of so learned a man.
Indeed the archdeacon of the patriarchate of Constantinople,
Philagrus, traveled with us, bringing many young persons to become
pupils of Tyukhik." When I heard this, I expressed my gratitude to
God, who had quenched the thirst of His slave.
I went to Tyukhik at the monastery of St. Eugene and explained why I
had come. He received me graciously and said: "I praise Our Lord that
He sent you to learn and to transplant science in the domain of St.
Gregory; I am glad that all your country will learn from me. I myself
lived in Armenia for many years as a youth. Ignorance reigned there."
Vardapet Tyukhik loved me as a son and shared all his thoughts with
me. The Lord bestowed upon me His blessing: I completely assimilated
the science of number, and with such success that my fellow students
at the king's court began to envy me.
I spent eight years with Tyukhik and studied many books that had not
been translated into our language. For the vardapet had an innumerable
collection of books: secret and explicit, ecclesiastical and pagan,
books on art, history, and medicine, books of chronologies. Why
enumerate them by title? In a word, there is no book that Tyukhik did
not have. And he had such a gift from the Holy Spirit for translating
that when he sat down to translate something from the Greek into
Armenian, he did not struggle as other translators did, and the
translation read as if the work were written in that language
originally.
Tyukhik told me how he had achieved such vast erudition and how he had
learned the Armenian language. "When I was young," he said, "I lived
in Trebizon, at the court of the military chief Ioannus Patricus, and
for a long time, up to the accession of Mauritius to the throne I
served as a military man in Armenia and learned your language and
literature. During one attack by Persian troops on the Greeks, I was
wounded and escaped to Antioch. I lost all my possessions. Praying to
the Lord to heal my wounds, I made a promise: "If You prolong my life,
I shall dedicate it not to accumulating perishable treasures but to
collecting treasures of knowledge." And the Lord heard my prayers.
After I recovered I went to Jerusalem, and from there to Alexandria
and Rome. Upon returning to Constantinople, I met a famous philosopher
from Athens and studied with him for many years. After that I returned
to my homeland and began to teach and instruct my people."
After some years that philosopher died. Not finding a replacement for
him, the king and his courtiers sent for Tyukhik and invited him to
assume the teacher's position. Tyukhik, citing the promise he made to
God not to move far from the city, turned down the offer. But because
of his wide leaning, people came streaming from all countries to study
with him.
And I, the most insignificant of all Armenians, having learned from
him this powerful science, desired by kings, brought it to our
country, supported by no one, obligated only to my own industry, God's
help, and the prayers of the Blessed Educator. And no one thanked me
for my efforts.
Problems and Solutions
A half and one sixth and one nine-ninth of all the books were printed
on verge'; one fifth and one two-hundred-eighty-fifth--on rag paper;
one forty-fifth and one eight-hundred-fifty-fifth--on vellum, and
forty-five inscribed copies--on Dutch paper. And so, find how many
copies were printed in all.
--Imitation of Anania of Shirak
A Latin proverb says habent sua fata libelli ("books have their own fate").
The fate of Problems and Solutions by Anania of Shirak is quite amazing. The
manuscripts of Anania's book were preserved only because, according to
Armenian historians, "in ancient and medieval Armenia manuscripts were guarded
from invaders, like weapons, and cherished, like one's own children." Biding
their time, the manuscripts lay in the Matenadaran, a renowned depository of
ancient manuscripts (now the Mesrop Mashtots Institute of Ancient Manuscripts).
And its hour finally arrived. In 1896 the learned monk Father Kaloust used two
manuscripts to publish the problem book, supplementing it with an introduction
and commentary. In 1918 the book was translated into Russian, edited,
annotated, and typeset by Iosef Orbeli, a prominent scholar (and later a
member of the Academy of Sciences of the USSR).
In the translator's words, the problems of Anania are "amusing, full of life,
and simple." Orbeli goes on to say: "The subjects of the problems are
generally taken from everyday life. The scene is predominantly his homeland
Shirak and the surrounding countryside, and the dramatis personae, if they are
named, are the local princes--the Kamsarakans, including Nersekh, who was a
contemporary of Anania." Like other ancient authors, Anania of Shirak used
only "aliquots" -- that is, fractions with a numerator of 1. When it is
necessary to write fractions with numerators other than 1, one has to
represent it as a sum of aliquots (see the epigraph above).
Like any true work of art, the problems of Anania suffer terribly in the
retelling. You have to read the originals (albeit in translation) in their
full glory. So let's open Anania's problem book--a gift from across the ages.
Problems 1 and 8 relate to the Armenian uprising against the Persians in A.D.
572.
Problem 1
My father told me the following story. During the famous wars between the
Armenians and the Persians, prince Zaurak Kamsarakan performed extraordinary
heroic deeds. Three times in a single month he attacked the Persian troops.
The first time, he struck down half of the Persian army. The second time,
pursuing the Persians, he slaughtered one fourth of the soldiers. The third
time, he destroyed one eleventh of the Persian army. The Persians who were
still alive, numbering two hundred eighty, fled to Nakhichevan. And so, from
this remainder, find how many Persian soldiers there were before the massacre.
Problem 8
During the famous Armenian uprising against the Persians, when Zaurak
Kamsarakan killed Suren, one of the Armenian azats[4] sent an envoy to the
Persian king to report the baleful news. The envoy covered fifty miles in a
day. Fifteen days later, when he learned of this, Zaurak Kamsarakan sent
riders in pursuit to bring the envoy back. The riders covered eighty miles in
a day. And so, find how many days it took them to catch the envoy.
Problem 18 mentions vessels made of varying amounts of metal. In the Russian
translation, they are all called "dishes." But in the original Armenian,
according to Orbeli's note, the dishes in the first and second instances are
called mesur, and in the third instance scutel. Scutel is a common Armenian
word, but mesur had not been encountered in Armenian literature before
Anania's Problems and Solutions.
Problem 18
There was a tray in my house. I melted it down and made other vessels from the
metal. From one third I made a mesur; from one fourth, another mesur; from
one fifth, two goblets; from one sixth, two scutels; and from two hundred ten
drams, I made a bowl. And now, find the weight of the tray.
Several of the problems reflect the richness of the Caucasian fauna in
Anania's time -- for instance, problem 7.
Problem 7
Once I was in Marmet, the capital of the Kamsarakans. Strolling along the bank
of the river Akhuryan, I saw a school of fish and ordered that a net be cast.
We caught a half and a quarter of the school, and all the fishes that slipped
out of the net ended up in a creel. When I looked in the creel, I found
forty-five fishes. And now, find how many fishes here were in all.
The temptation is great to present all 24 problems. But I'll restrain myself
and offer you just one more.
Problem 20 provides some interesting information about the wild animals that
inhabited Armenia at one time but now extinct for so long that there is no
mention of them even in zoological reference books. The wild donkey, according
to the generally accepted view, never roamed the Armenian lands. Yet Anania of
Shirak offers evidence to the contrary .
Problem 20
The hunting preserve of Nersekh Kamsarakan, ter[5] of Shirak and Asharunik,
was at the base of the mountain called Artin. One night great herds of wild
donkey entered the preserve. The hunters could not cope with the donkeys and,
running to the village of Talin, told Nersekh about them. When he arrived with
his brothers and azats and entered the preserve, they began killing the wild
beasts. Half of the animals were caught in traps, one fourth were killed by
arrows. The young, which constituted one twelfth of all the animals, were
caught alive, and three hundred sixty wild donkeys were killed by spears. And
so, find how many beasts there were at the start of this massacre.
"Set in type by me, Iosef Orbeli"
His biography could not be squeezed into the framework of a
bibliography.
-- K Uzbashyan, Academician
Iosef Abgarovich Orbeli
Anyone who is lucky enough to hold a copy (1/n of the small printing--n is the
solution to the epigraph in the previous section) of the Russian translation
of Anania of Shirak's Problems and Solutions, a thin book with yellowed pages,
has probably noticed the variety of the fonts, the elegance of the borders,
and the high quality of the design, printing, and binding. Such great
attention to detail is characteristic of works that fulfill a requirement for
a degree in bookmaking. And this problem book was indeed a kind of diploma
attesting to the professional maturity of the man who created it. An
advertisement at the end of the book reads: "This book was typeset in
December 1917 at the printing offices of the Russian Academy of Sciences by
me, Iosef Orbeli; the text was also proofread, laid out, and decorated with
borders by me. Various circumstances prevented me from carrying this project
to the end; the final pages of the book were typeset by M. Strolman."
Typesetting was neither the first nor the only profession of the renowned
orientalist Iosef Orbeli, who later became the director of the Hermitage
Museum in Leningrad. He was also a cabinetmaker and a locksmith. Orbeli had
already become acquainted with the famous academic printing house Typis
Academiae, founded in 1728 and known all over the scientific world for its
rich collection of fonts and its virtuoso typesetters. In preparing to publish
the corpus of ancient inscriptions preserved on the walls of Armenian
churches, Orbeli found it necessary to create a new font that would preserve
the unique signs and ligatures. This complicated work was done by M. G.
Strolman. (Unfortunately the entire set of letters was destroyed during the
blockade of Leningrad in World War II.)
When Orbeli came to the printing offices of the Academy of Sciences, times
were hard. The only way to publish the newly translated Problems of Anania
was for Orbeli to learn typesetting (he had always been attracted to the
printer's craft). In 1922 Orbeli became the director of printing at the
Academy of Sciences. Even after he retired, he remained a tireless champion
of Russian academic typography.
Back to Earth
This book by definition does not exhaust all the most important
works in this domain. The editor hopes that those who are guilty
of this incompleteness will read these lines and, stung by shame,
will work up, if not a collection like this, at least a monograph.
--V. Bonch-Bruyevich introduction to the
Russian translation of Solid-Body
Symmetry by R. Knox and A. Gold
Let's imagine a time when space flight is an everyday thing, and high
schoolers will spend their breaks as astronauts-in training in the Perelman
crater on the far side of the Moon. Maybe one of the space travelers will take
this very copy of Quantum, and another, looking over her shoulder, will read
this article and say to himself: "This Anania from Shirak seems like a pretty
interesting guy. When I get home I'll try to find his problems."
Good luck, my young friend! Anania is sure to entertain you. Perhaps by then
there will be more than n copies of his timeless Problems and Solutions. And
we can hope they will be as lovingly printed as the masterpieces created by
Iosef Orbeli.
[1] Vardapet (or vartabed) means teacher or learned man in Armenian. (The
Armenian language suffers in English from a dual transliteration scheme.
Thus, Mesrop is often rendered as "Mesrob", Komitas as "Gomidas," and so
on).
[2] Fourth Armenia was one of fifteen provinces into which, according to
Armenian Geography in the Seventh Century A.D., so-called Great Armenia
was divided.
[3] "Pontus" (or "Pontus Euxinus") was an old name for the Black Sea.
[4] "Azats" were members one of several strata of freemen in ancient Armenia.
[5] "Ter" was the title of the heads of sovereign royal families in ancient
Armenia.
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
|
8616 | From: bdunn@cco.caltech.edu (Brendan Dunn)
Subject: Re: Defensive Averages 1988-1992, Third Base
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 34
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
In article <C5L068.6v3@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> craigs@srgenprp.sr.hp.com (Craig Stelter) writes:
>Gaetti, Gary .616 .638 .655 .632 ---- 0.637
>
>Apologies if I don't know what I'm talking about :-), but as a Twins fan,
>I like to think they have good players in any park. Not sure if I remember
>completely or not, but I think Gaetti played with the Twins in '87 for the
>world series, and again in '88 (note that's his lowest of the 4). I believe
>the next 3 (or at least the last two) were played with the Angels. Lots
>of factors make a player excell... I hate it when so many use the dome.
>It may not be ideal, but nice to comfortably enjoy baseball and football
>even when it's snowing and raining.
>
>-Craig
>
>I'm sure the company for which I work does not have all the same opinions
>that I do...
The event that had the most impact on Gaetti's career was his leg injury
in 1988. His performance dropped radically from 1988 to 1989. He was
still with the Twins in 1989 and 1990, but if you look at his stats (both
offensive and defensive), he never has come back to his pre-injury level.
Brendan
|
8617 | From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: Do we need the clipper for cheap security?
Organization: Partnership for an America Free Drug
Lines: 17
gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal) writes:
>
>In the UK, it's impossible to get approval to attach any crypto device
>to the phone network. (Anything that plugs in to our BT phone sockets
>must be approved - for some reason crypto devices just never are...)
>
Whats the difference between a V.32bis modem and a V.32bis modem?
I'm not being entirely silly here: what I'm pointing out is that the
modems that they have already approved for data transmission will work
just fine to transmit scrambled vocoded voice.
--
Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com
--
Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
|
8618 | From: palmer@cco.caltech.edu (David M. Palmer)
Subject: Re: Gamma Ray Bursters. WHere are they.
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 53
NNTP-Posting-Host: alumni.caltech.edu
prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
> What evidence indicates that Gamma Ray bursters are very far away?
>Given the enormous power, i was just wondering, what if they are
>quantum black holes or something like that fairly close by?
>Why would they have to be at galactic ranges?
Gamma Ray Bursts (GRBs) are seen coming equally from all directions.
However, given the number of bright ones, there are too few faint
ones to be consistent with being equally dense for as far
as we can see--it is as if they are all contained within
a finite sphere (or a sphere with fuzzy edges) with us at the
center. (These measurements are statistical, and you can
always hide a sufficiently small number of a different
type of GRB with a different origin in the data. I am assuming
that there is only one population of GRBs).
The data indicates that we are less than 10% of the radius of the center
of the distribution. The only things the Earth is at the exact center
of are the Solar system (at the scale of the Oort cloud of comets
way beyond Pluto) and the Universe. Cosmological theories, placing
GRBs throughout the Universe, require supernova-type energies to
be released over a timescale of milliseconds. Oort cloud models
tend to be silly, even by the standards of astrophysics.
If GRBs were Galactic (i.e. distributed through the Milky Way Galaxy)
you would expect them to be either concentrated in the plane of
the Galaxy (for a 'disk' population), or towards the Galactic center
(for a spherical 'halo' population). We don't see this, so if they
are Galactic, they must be in a halo at least 250,000 light years in
radius, and we would probably start to see GRBs from the Andromeda
Galaxy (assuming that it has a similar halo.) For comparison, the
Earth is 25,000 light-years from the center of the Galaxy.
>my own pet theory is that it's Flying saucers entering
>hyperspace :-)
The aren't concentrated in the known spacelanes, and we don't
see many coming from Zeta Reticuli and Tau Ceti.
>but the reason i am asking is that most everyone assumes that they
>are colliding nuetron stars or spinning black holes, i just wondered
>if any mechanism could exist and place them closer in.
There are more than 130 GRB different models in the refereed literature.
Right now, the theorists have a sort of unofficial moratorium
on new models until new observational evidence comes in.
--
David M. Palmer palmer@alumni.caltech.edu
palmer@tgrs.gsfc.nasa.gov
|
8619 | From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: Canadiens - another Stanley Cup???
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Lines: 35
In <rauser.734062534@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>pereira@CAM.ORG (Dean Pereira) writes:
>> With the kind of team Montreal has now, they can take the
>>cup easily. The only problem they have right now is that everyone is
>>trying to steal the show and play alone. They need some massive teamwork.
This is known as the Savard syndrome - and we are talking Denis, not Serge.
No team will ever win squat with the likes of Denis Savard in their lineup.
>> They are also in a little of a slump because long-time hockey
>>Montreal Canadiens announcer Claude Mouton died last tuesday and it was
>>rough on everybody because he has worked with the organization for 21
>>years. But I know that is no excuse. But if the Habs manage to get some
>>good teamwork and get into the spirit, they should have no problem
>>winning in May.
They could tell Savard to stay home and watch the games on TV.
> I agree. I also think Roy needs a good kick sometimes...that horrible
>4-0 loss to the Capitals last week...yeeeech!
> Here's to Cup #23...this year!
Sounds like #12 to me.
cordially, as always,
rm
--
Roger Maynard
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
|
8620 | Organization: Students for Increased Beverage Access (SIBA)
From: Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Top Ten Excuses for Slick Willie's Record-Setting Disapproval Rati
<93105.032616MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> <1qkl3i$9bj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Lines: 49
In article <1qkl3i$9bj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Broward Horne) says:
>In a previous article, MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark 'Mark' Sachs) says:
>>In article <1qhr73$a8d@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
>>(Broward Horne) says:
>>> It sure does appear that way, doesn't it?
>>
>>The attitude that people are stupid if they don't agree with you is not
>>going to bring you great success in life. Free advice, there.
> whew. Mark, what on EARTH makes you think I give a FUCK
> about being a "success", particularly NOW when I'll just
> the HELL taxed out of me? Oh, this is excellent.
That was hardly the point, was it? I was commenting on this all-too-common
Republican attitude that if people disagree with us, they must be idiots, they
must be sheep being led around by the Evil Liberal Media Conspiracy. This is
a dangerous attitude indeed. Because it's not a very big step from "people
are sheep, they can't think for themselves" to "people are sheep and need
firm leadership from we, who know better"... this sort of attitude makes
me worry about what'll happen to the United States if the extremist wing
of the Republican party ever gets back into power again.
> Holy christ! :)
Hey! This is a government-funded newsgroup! Let's have some separation
of church and state, damn it!
> Besides, let's <ahem> examine the record, shall we?
> Broward: " Clinton's going to taxe the HOLY FUCK out of you! "
> Mark: " No, he's not. Only $17 / month "
> ( I STILL get a laugh out of this one! :) )
More like:
Broward: "Clinton's going to raise your income taxes by over $1000!"
Mark: "No, he's not, only about $204."
Broward: (silence)
> Want some more "free predictions" ?
OK, I predict that in 1996 the Republicans will STILL be bitter. Yeah, yeah,
I know, it's not very impressive to predict things that are inevitable...
"...so I propose that we destroy the moon, neatly solving that problem."
[Your blood pressure just went up.] Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
DISCLAIMER: If PSU knew I had opinions, they'd try to charge me for them.
|
8621 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: Homeopathy: a respectable medical tradition?
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 26
In article <C5qMJJ.yB@ampex.com> jag@ampex.com (Rayaz Jagani) writes:
>
>From Miranda Castro, _The Complete Homeopathy Handbook_,
>ISBN 0-312-06320-2, oringinally published in Britain in 1990.
>
>From Page 10,
>.. and in 1946, when the National Health Service was established,
>homeopathy was included as an officially approved method
>of treatment.
I was there in 1976. I suppose it must have died out since 1946,
then. Certainly I never heard of any homeopaths or herbalists in
the employ of the NHS. Perhaps the law codified it but the authorities
refused to hire any homeopaths. A similar law in the US allows
chiropractors to practice in VA hospitals but I've never seen one
there and I don't know of a single VA that has hired a chiropractor.
There are a lot of Britons on the net, so someone should be able to
tell us if the NHS provides homeopaths for you.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
8622 | From: kayd@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Kayd)
Subject: Texas Star DX350 Linear Amplifier or Tornado 100 Linear $150/$100
Keywords: 10m linear amplifier watts HF
Article-I.D.: flop.1qshlgINNb3n
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu
Looking for an amateur radio operator that needs a variable power linear
amplifier for 2-30MHz. Looks and works like new. Runs off 12v for mobile
use. Input: 5-10 watts Output: ~175 watts AM, ~350 watts PEP SSB.
I need $150 out of it.
If that's too much, I also have a Tornado 100 that takes 5w in and
100/250w out for $100.
Reply with your callsign, address and phone number for verification of license.
Prices do NOT include shipping/packaging.
Darrek Kay
Kayd@Prism.cs.orst.edu
(503)737-9410
KB7RVD
|
8623 | From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: We knew it would happen
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Lines: 8
God forgive me for being an American who pays taxes to a government
that commits atrocities like the Waco Massacre of 1993.
--
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
I'm beginning to look forward to reaching the %100 allocation of taxes
to pay for the interest on the national debt. At that point the
federal government will be will go out of business for lack of funds.
|
8624 | From: paula@nlbbs.com (Paula Stockholm)
Subject: Re: Need to find out number to a phone line
Reply-To: paula@nlbbs.com <Paula Stockholm>
Organization: The Northern Lights BBS, Portland, ME * 207-761-4782 *
Lines: 7
X-Newsreader: ZipNews Reader/Mailer v0.92d (Beta)
In most areas of the country, serviced by ESS (or CESS), your phone
--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* paula@nlbbs.com *
* Paula Stockholm Cumberland, Maine USA *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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8625 | From: dlb5404@tamuts.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf)
Subject: Re: LH Workmanship
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Lines: 19
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamuts.tamu.edu
In article <1993Apr15.203750.25764@walter.bellcore.com> jchen@ctt.bellcore.com writes:
>I just visited the NY Auto Show, and saw two LH cars on the floor: Eagle
>Vision and Dodge Intrepid.
>at a competitive price. ...
>
>Unfortunately, the workmanship is quite disappointing. On BOTH cars,
>the rubber seals around the window and door fell off. It turns out
>the seals are just big grooved rubber band. It goes on just by pressing
"Through a single data point, you can draw any line you want."
-- Dr. S. Bart Childs, Professor, Texas A&M Dept. of Computer Science
Both my pastor's late model Corolla and my father's 1987 Stanza
have demonstrated the "falling door seals" problem.
Daryl Biberdorf N5GJM d-biberdorf@tamu.edu
+ Sola Gratia + Sola Fide + Sola Scriptura
|
8626 | From: aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Alan Walford)
Subject: Workgroup Questions (conven. ram and licensing)
Reply-To: aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: Eos Systems Inc, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Lines: 37
I would be very appreciative if someone would answer a few
questions about Windows for Workgroups.
I currently have Novell Netware Lite which does not work with
Windows very well and is a conventional memory hog (ver. 1.1).
I am considering moving all our machines to W4WG.
Q1: How much conventional ram does W4WG use over and above the
driver for the network card?
Q2: If I have a Novell NE2000 card, are the LSL and IPX drivers
still needed?
Q3: Does W4WG do a license check over the network to ensure each
machine is running its own licenced copy of W4WG? (Note: I do
not want to break the license agreement and I will buy a copy
of W4WG for each of our machines, it is just that I would like
to try it out first to see if it meets our needs. Returning one
opened copy is much easier than returning N opened copies.)
Q4: If you buy the upgrade to Windows 3.1 for W4WG does it replace
all of Win 3.1 as you install it or does it depend on current
Win 3.1 files?
Q5: If I install Windows NT on my server when it comes out, will I have
any troubles with the W4WG machines?
When I started this message, I was going to ask only 2 questions but I got carried
away. I'll stop now ;-).
I look forward to your replies.
Al
--
Alan Walford Eos Systems Inc., Vancouver,B.C., Canada Tel: 604-734-8655
aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca OR ...uunet!wimsey.bc.ca!eosvcr!aew
|
8627 | From: john@goshawk.mcc.ac.uk (John Heaton)
Subject: POV reboots PC after memory upgrade
Reply-To: john@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
Organization: MCC Network Unit
Lines: 13
Up until last week, I have been running POVray v1.0 on my 486/33 under DOS5
without any major problems. Over Easter I increased the memory from 4Meg to
8Meg, and found that POVray reboots the system every time under DOS5. I had
a go at running POVray in a DOS window when running Win3.1 on the same system
and it now works fine, even if a lot slower. I would like to go back to
using POVray directly under DOS, anyone any ideas???
John
--
John Heaton - NRS Central Administrator
MCC Network Unit, The University, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13-9PL
Phone: (+44) 61 275 6011 - FAX: (+44) 61 275 6040
Packet: G1YYH @ G1YYH.GB7PWY.#16.GBR.EU
|
8628 | From: dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung)
Subject: Gateway Telepath Modem -- getting v.32bis
Summary: I get garbage no matter what settings I try
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: na
Lines: 29
I have had a Gateway Telepath modem for about a month or so now.
Actually, I had one that wouldn't connect to ANYTHING no matter
what software I used, so I got a new one sent to me. This allows
me to connect to my favorite News system with ZERO problems. So
I'm somewhat happier ....
But I still cannot connect to my favorite DOS bbs with any kind
of reliability. I have success about 1/10 calls. Not good! I
would hope that the fact that this one can connect to at least
ONE of my fave places means I just need to adjust it.
What I usually get is a fast stream of garbage, in the modem response
line on the dial window. Sometimes it will drop to full screen mode
first, then I get about 2-3 screens of garbage. In both cases the
modem seems to time out before connecting and drops carrier.
I am using DEFAULT settings (AT&F) and getting this problem. I
am using the AUTOCONFIGURE settings that Gateway has supplied with
my copy of Qmodem (ATW1&C1&D2S95=44&W0) and getting this problem.
(They have refused to help me beyond this, claiming "it must be
the BBS" or something like that. Not so -- my work modem connects
to this same place just fine, using factory settings -- a Microcom.)
Anyone have any ideas?!
--
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| Russian update ... an abortion update ... and a Congressional update ... |
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Daniel A. Hartung -- dhartung@chinet.chinet.com -- Ask me about Rotaract
|
8629 | From: ychen@hubcap.clemson.edu (Eric Chen)
Subject: NEC Multisync Plus for MAC & PC $250
Organization: Clemson University, Clemson SC
Lines: 8
NEC Multisync Plus, model # JC-1501VMA, 15", 960x720, $250 + shipping.
Price is frim. Do not send me an emai if your offer is less than my
asking.
Thank you.
Yuesea
|
8630 | From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 17
Gene Wright (gene@theporch.raider.net) wrote:
: Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
: who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a year.
: Then you'd see some of the inexpensive but not popular technologies begin
: to be developed. THere'd be a different kind of space race then!
I'm an advocate of this idea for funding Space Station work, and I
throw around the $1 billion figure for that "reward." I suggest that
you increase the Lunar reward to about $3 billion.
This would encourage private industry to invest in space, which
should be one of NASA's primary goals.
-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (713) 483-4368
"Better. Faster. Cheaper." -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator
|
8631 | From: bethd@netcom.com (Beth Dixon)
Subject: Re: Ed must be a Daemon Child!!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Lines: 29
In article <1993Apr14.133413.1499@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@syl.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>In article <bethdC5G0H6.I48@netcom.com> bethd@netcom.com (Beth Dixon) writes:
>>Bzzzzt. It was me. Until I discovered my SR250 Touring Bike has a
>>nifty little cache on it for things like coins or lipstick. The
>>new Duc 750SS doesn't, so I'll have to go back to carrying my lipstick
>>in my jacket pocket. Life is _so_ hard. :-)
>
> Am I the only denizen who thinks that the Natural Look is the best
>look? The thought of kissing that waxy shit smeared all over a woman's lips
>is a definite turn-off...
So does clear lipstick/chapstick/etc. fit under the "natural look" or
the "waxy shit" category? I wear something on my lips to keep them from
drying out. Kissing dry, cracked, parched lips isn't too fun either.
> Not that I'll ever be kissing Beth or Noemi... ;-)
Not if Tom has anything to say about it you won't! Noemi speaks for
herself.
Beth
=================================================================
Beth [The One True Beth] Dixon bethd@netcom.com
1981 Yamaha SR250 "Excitable Girl" DoD #0384
1979 Yamaha SR500 "Spike the Garage Rat" FSSNOC #1843
1992 Ducati 750SS AMA #631903
1963 Ducati 250 Monza -- restoration project 1KQSPT = 1.8
"I can keep a handle on anything just this side of deranged."
-- ZZ Top
=================================================================
|
8632 | From: chein@eng.auburn.edu (Tsan Heui)
Subject: Softwares, games (New or Used) for sale
Nntp-Posting-Host: wilbur.eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Distribution: usa
Lines: 48
I have following softwares for sale:
NEW ITEMS (never opened):
1. Lucid 3-D, three dimensional spreadsheet:
with pull-down menus, on-line help, up to 8 pages of notes behind every
cell for dynamic detail, 3-D capability, compatible with Lotus 1-2-3, etc.
$15 including shipping (manual, 5.25" disks)
2. Turbo Pascal Express
with 250 ready-to-run assembly language routines that make Turbo Pascal
faster, more powerful, and easier to use.
2 5.25" disks and manual
$15 (including shipping)
3. Dr. Halo III
much more than an icon driven paint program - it's a complete page
composition and presentation graphics package. Automatic aspect ratio
correction for WYSIWYG printing. True color or grey scale output and partial screen prints.
3 5.25" disks and manual
$12 (including shipping)
4. Key Form Designer Plus
software for making professional business forms.
3.5" disks and manual
$25 plus shipping
Like-new items (package is opened but not registered):
1. JetFighter II
Advanced tactical fighter F-23 as well as F-14, F-16, F/A-18, and F-22.
3.25" disks and manuals
$30 plus Shipping OBO
2. Nighthwak F-117A Stealth Fighter 2.0
The definitive simulation of America's radar-elusive jet.
Sensational sound, nine world's "hot spots": Cuba, North Korea, the Kuwaiti T Theatre of operations, central Europe, the North Cape, Libya, the persian Gul f, Vietnam and the Middle East. Awesome missions to challenge you.
5.25" disks and manual
$35 plus shipping OBO
3. Grammatik IV - $20 plus shipping
4. Quattro Pro 1.0 - make an offer
5. GEM chart, graphics, word, publisher, ... V.3.0 - make an offer.
All items above are for IBM/compatible systems.
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8633 | From: wangr@vccsouth22.its.rpi.edu ( Rex Wang )
Subject: Tie Breaker....(Isles and Devils)
Nntp-Posting-Host: vccsouth22.its.rpi.edu
Reply-To: wangr@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Lines: 9
Are people here stupid or what??? It is a tie breaker, of cause they
have to have the same record. How can people be sooooo stuppid to put win as
first in the list for tie breaker??? If it is a tie breaker, how can there be
different record???? Man, I thought people in this net are good with hockey.
I might not be great in Math, but tell me how can two teams ahve the same points
with different record??? Man...retard!!!!!! Can't believe people actually put
win as first in a tie breaker......
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8634 | From: G.R.Price@cm.cf.ac.uk (and thats a fact)
Subject: Sax
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.
Lines: 5
Any more news on Steve's status since he lost the starting job
would be appreciated
Thanks
gwyn
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8635 | From: ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (David Anderson)
Subject: Re: Christian Owned Organization list
Organization: University of Arizona
Lines: 19
In article <?a$@byu.edu> $stephan@sasb.byu.edu (Stephan Fassmann) writes:
>In article <1993Apr13.025426.22532@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>
>>In article <47749@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> shopper@ucsd.edu writes:
>>>
>>>Does anyone have or know where I can find a list of christian-owned
>>>corporations and companies? One that I know of is WordPerfect.
>>
>>I believe that WordPerfect is actually owned by the Mormons.
>
>Sorry, WordPerfect is own by A mormon not the LDS Church.
Slight semantical difference. The LDS Church does own a heck of
a lot however. They are the largest land holder in MIssouri
(where they think Christ will appear at the second coming).
I believe they also own some large beverage company like Pepsi
(that was why they had to take caffiene off of their "forbidden
substance" list).
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8636 | From: foxfire@access.digex.com (foxfire)
Subject: Sega CD [Forsale]
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Lines: 35
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Ok folks...
I am in need for some money to purchase a Video Game Backup-Unit, so I
have decided to let go my SEGA CD unit... Heres the deal:
Sega Genesis CD/Rom Unit:
------------------------
o Playes Sega CD games
o Playes Regular CD's
o Playes CD-G's (Cd's w/graphics)
o Comes w/ 5 Cd's (Pack-Ins)
o Sega's Hot Hits (Regular CD w/ music)
o Rock Paintings (CD-G - music w/Graphics Karoki like)
o Sol-Feace (Shooter)
o Sherlock Holmes (Mystery) - Clue Book, No Docs.
o Sega Classics (Streets of Rage, Revenge of Shinobi, Columns,
& Golden Axe) - No Docs.
o Box and Documents (CD Unit) Included. All games comes w/Jewels and
documentation unless otherwise specified.
Other Games:
-----------
o Cobra Command (Docs have water dammage)
o Road Avenger *2 Weeks old!!
o Night Trap (No Docs.)
o All games come w/Jewels and documentation unless otherwise specified.
Im going to sell all of this to the HIGHEST bidder as of 4/30/93. I
would like to start all of the above at $250.00 or Trade for a Genesis/Snes
Video Backup-Unit. If you would like to bid or make an offer, just drop me
some mail... I will keep everone informed of what the current bids are..
Foxfire
foxfire@access.digex.com
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8637 | From: gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright)
Subject: NASA Special Publications for Voyager Mission?
Organization: The MacInteresteds of Nashville, Tn.
Lines: 12
I have two books, both NASA Special Publications, on the Voyager
Missions. One is titled "Voyages to Jupiter" the other "Voyage to Saturn"
These were excellent books put together after the encounters with each
planet.
The question is: Did NASA ever put together a similar book for either the
Uranus encounter or Neptune? If so, what SP number is it and where can it
be obtained? If not, why didn't they?
--
gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright)
theporch.raider.net 615/297-7951 The MacInteresteds of Nashville
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8638 | From: hickson@pop.psu.edu (Darryl Hickson)
Subject: DJ Equipment, NES Carts, Cordless Phone FOR SALE (Lower Prices)
Article-I.D.: genesis.1prc95$u10
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Lines: 35
NNTP-Posting-Host: zelinski.pop.psu.edu
I have a few things to sell. All items are in great condition. All
prices include shipping. If you have any questions contact me by
E-Mail or call me at (814)234-4439.
Darryl
DJ Equipment
=======================================================================
- Mixer Case (with pop-up rails) $60
- (2) Patch Cords (3 meters, Gold Tips) $15
Records
=======================================================================
Casualties Of War (12 inch single) Eric B. & Rakim $2
Get Some (12 inch single) EYC & Boo-Ya Tribe $2
Black's Magic Salt & Pepa $2
Heart Break New Edition $2
The Right Stuff Vanessa Williams $2
Misc
=======================================================================
Toshiba FT6000 Cordless Phone $50
Books (Each book is priced as marked)
=======================================================================
1. Microcomputers For Management P. Fuhrman & G. Buck $5
Decison Making (1st Edition)
2. Statistics: A fresh Approach D. Sanders, R. Eng & $5
A. Murph
3. Quantitative Approaches to R. Levin, D. Rubin & $5
Management J. Stinson
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8639 | From: begolej@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (James Begole)
Subject: 16MB ISA limit?
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA
Lines: 13
I was just reading in PC Magazine that the peripherals in a PC with an
ISA bus can only access 16MB of memory. Also, that some video cards on
the ISA bus look for a memory aperture to map their memory to. So that
if I wanted to put 16MB of memory on my PC, my video card wouldn't have
anywhere to map it's memory to.
Can someone explain this in more detail. Is there a way around this
limit.
If you email me a response, I will summarize.
-Bo begolej@csgrad.cs.vt.edu
--
--James "Bo" Begole begolej@csgrad.cs.vt.edu
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8640 | From: edm@twisto.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: YOU WILL ALL GO TO HELL!!!
In-Reply-To: 's message of Fri, 16 Apr 1993 15: 50:02 EDT
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp
Lines: 11
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Apr 1993 15:50:02 EDT, <JSN104@psuvm.psu.edu> said:
J> YOU BLASHEPHEMERS!!! YOU WILL ALL GO TO HELL FOR NOT BELIEVING IN GOD!!!! BE
J> PREPARED FOR YOUR ETERNAL DAMNATION!!!
Hmm, I've got my MST3K lunch box, my travel scrabble, and a couple of
kegs of Bass Ale. I'm all set! Let's go everybody!
--
Ed McCreary ,__o
edm@twisto.compaq.com _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao." (*)/'(*)
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8641 | From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Sandberg, Runs, RBIs (was: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series)
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: na
Lines: 53
In article <1993Apr16.013145.8770@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>
>Right. So who cares which PLAYER gets credited, as long as the TEAM
>gets more runs? If a player helps the TEAM get more R and RBI, but
>doesn't score them all himself, who cares?
Amusing, isn't it? Seems only the SDCNs realize how much baseball is
a *team* game, combining efforts from every player for the win.
Consider the Red Sox game last night. The Sox won 4-3 in the bottom
of the 13th. Who won the game?
-Clemens pitched a strong nine (?) innings, allowing only two runs.
-Ryan pitched a couple shutout innings, though he needed some excellent
defensive plays behind him to do so.
-Quantrill pitched a couple of innings, gave up the go-ahead run, and
got credited with the win when the Sox scored two in the bottom of
the inning.
Looks like a team effort to me! Yet only Quantrill got credit for
the win.
How about the offense?
-Dawson and Vaughn hit (I think) HRs early in the game. Without either
one, the Sox would have lost in nine.
-Quintana led off the 13th with a solid single.
-Zupcic pinch-ran for Quintana, providing the speed to go from first
to third when...
-Cooper ripped a *second* single in the inning.
-Melvin avoided the DP, getting the run home with a sac fly. Not much of
a help, but it was something.
-Scrub Richardson then hit a double, scoring the speedy Cooper all the
way from first! (Hill's lack of defense helped.)
Cooper and Zupcic were credited with runs, Melvin and Richardson were
credited with RBIs. But it seems to me that it was Quintana's hit
that set up the whole inning! And did Melvin really contribute as
much as Richardson?
Furthermore, people seem to consider RBIs to be more significant than
runs. Did Melvin contribute more than Cooper? Cooper provided the
game-winning baserunner, and moved the tying run to third base with
only one out!
Assigning credit based on Runs and RBIs is clearly ridiculous. You
can argue that OBP and SLG don't show you who came through in the
clutch, but R&RBI don't do any better. At least OBP and SLG don't
*claim* to try to tell you that.
Here's to the Red Sox who contributed to last night's victory.
All 20 of them!
-Valentine
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8642 | From: bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse)
Subject: NHL RESULTS FOR GAMES PLAYED 4-15-93
Organization: AT&T
Keywords: thursday night's boxscores
Lines: 227
NHL RESULTS FOR GAMES PLAYED 4/15/93.
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STANDINGS
PATRICK ADAMS NORRIS SMYTHE
TM W L T PT TM W L T PT TM W L T PT TM W L T PT
xPIT 56 21 7 119 xBOS 51 26 7 109 xCHI 47 25 12 106 xVAN 46 29 9 101
yWAS 42 34 7 91 yQUE 47 27 10 104 yDET 47 28 9 103 yCAL 43 30 11 97
yNJ 40 36 7 87 yMON 48 30 6 102 yTOR 44 29 11 99 yLA 39 35 10 88
yNYI 39 37 7 85 yBUF 38 36 10 86 ySTL 37 36 11 85 yWIN 40 37 7 87
PHL 35 37 11 81 HAR 26 51 6 58 MIN 36 38 10 82 EDM 26 50 8 60
NYR 34 38 11 79 OTT 10 70 4 24 TB 23 54 7 53 SJ 11 71 2 24
x - Clinched Division Title
y - Clinched Playoff Berth
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Minnesota North Stars (36-38-10) 1 1 1 - 3
Detroit Red Wings (47-28-9) 0 2 3 - 5
1st period: MIN, McPhee 18 - (Ludwig) 1:23
2nd period: MIN, Dahlen 34 - (Courtnall, Gagner) (pp) 0:31
DET, Drake 18 - (Howe, Ogrodnick) 9:14
DET, Ysebaert 34 - (Lidstrom, Howe) (pp) 17:37
3rd period: DET, Ciccarelli 41 - (Coffey, Chiasson) (pp) 0:32
DET, Kennedy 19 - (Burr, Probert) 3:42
DET, Yzerman 58 - (Ciccarelli, Gallant) 6:17
MIN, Dahlen 35 - (Courtnall, Gagner) 19:11
Powerplay Opportunities-North Stars 1 of 2
Red Wings 2 of 4
Shots on GOal- North Stars 10 9 11 - 30
Red Wings 6 15 8 - 29
Minnesota North Stars--Casey (26-26-5) (29 shots - 24 saves)
Detroit Red Wings--Cheveldae (34-24-7) (30 shots - 27 saves)
ATT-19,749
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Philadelphia Flyers (35-37-11) 1 2 4 - 7
Buffalo Sabres (38-36-10) 0 3 1 - 4
1st period: PHL, Recchi 52 - (Galley, Lindros) 0:18
2nd period: PHL, Hawgood 11 - (Dineen, Eklund) (pp) 2:15
PHL, Dineen 33 - (McGill) (sh) 5:40
BUF, Barnaby 1 - (Hawerchuk, Smehlik) (pp) 7:48
BUF, Wood 18 - (LaFontaine, Ledyard) (pp) 17:34
BUF, Mogilny 75 - (Hawerchuk, Carney) (pp) 18:56
3rd period: PHL, Eklund 11 - (Dineen, Beranek) 4:42
BUF, Mogilny 76 - (Errey, LaFontaine) 5:24
PHL, Dineen 34 - (Brind'Amour) (pp) 6:44
PHL, Dineen 35 - (Brind'Amour, Galley) (sh) 8:39
PHL, Acton 8 - (Dineen, Brind'Amour) 19:48
Powerplay Opportunities-Flyers 2 of 5
Sabres 3 of 10
SHots on Goal- Flyers 6 7 13 - 26
Sabres 8 19 18 - 45
Philadelphia Flyers--Soderstrom (20-17-6) (45 shots - 41 saves)
Buffalo Sabres--Fuhr (10 shots - 7 saves) Hasek (11-10-4) (5:40 second)
(16 shots - 12 saves)
ATT-15,042
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Edmonton Oilers (26-50-8) 0 0 0 - 0
Winnipeg Jets (40-37-7) 1 2 0 - 3
1st period: WIN, Shannon 20 - (Steen, Davydov) (pp) 2:08
2nd period: WIN, Selanne 76 - (Olausson) 5:25
WIN, Zhamnov 25 - (Selanne) 19:42
3rd period: NONE
Powerplay Opportunities-Oilers 0 of 3
Jets 1 of 6
SHots on GOal- Oilers 7 8 16 - 31
Jets 10 16 16 - 42
Edmonton Oilers--Ranford (17-38-6) (42 shots - 39 saves)
Winnipeg Jets--Essensa (33-26-6) (31 shots - 31 saves)
ATT-12,229
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Toronto Maple Leafs (44-29-11) 1 1 0 - 2
Chicago BlackHawks (47-25-12) 0 2 1 - 3
1st period: TOR, Baumgartner 1 - 18:40
2nd period: CHI, Roenick 50 - (Murphy, Chelios) 1:29
TOR, Andreychuk 55 - (Mironov, Lefebvre) 13:22
CHI, Murphy 7 - (Roenick, Chelios) (pp) 19:05
3rd period: CHI, Matteau 15 - 10:51
Powerplay Opportunities-Maple Leafs 1 of 3
BlackHawks 1 of 7
Shots on Goal- Maple Leafs 14 4 8 - 26
BlackHawks 10 13 13 - 36
Toronto Maple Leafs--Potvin (25-15-7) (36 shots - 33 saves)
Chicago BlackHawks--Belfour (41-18-11) (26 shots - 24 saves)
ATT-17,856
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Tampa Bay Lightning (23-54-7) 0 2 3 - 5
St. Louis Blues (37-36-11) 3 3 0 - 6
1st period: STL, Shanahan 50 - (Brown, Felsner) 10:44
STL, Miller 23 - (Bassen, Brown) 19:38
STL, Bassen 8 - (Zombo) 19:48
2nd period: STL, Bassen 9 - (Hedican, Miller) 0:14
STL, Miller 24 - (Zombo, Hedican) 11:09
TBL, Maltais 7 - (Hamrlik) 11:27
TBL, Bergland 3 - (Harvey, Gilhen) 17:16
TBL, Shanahan 51 - (Emerson) 19:38
3rd period: TBL, Creighton 19 - (Bergland, Bergevin) 0:40
TBL, Chambers 10 - (Zamuner, Cole) 10:37
TBL, Cole 12 - (Beers, Bradley) 11:58
Powerplay Opportunities-Lightning 0 of 3
Blues 0 of 4
SHots on GOal- Lightning 5 12 14 - 31
Blues 11 11 4 - 26
Tampa Bay Lightning--Jablonski (8-24-4) (22 shots - 16 saves) Bergeron (0:00
third) (4 shots - 4 saves)
St. Louis Blues--Joseph (29-28-9) (18 shots - 15 saves) Hebert (19:20 third)
(13 shots - 11 saves)
ATT-17,816
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San Jose Sharks (11-71-2) 0 1 2 - 3
Calgary Flames (43-30-11) 0 4 3 - 7
1st period: NONE
2nd period: SJS, Garpenlov 22 - (Odgers, Gaudreau) (pp) 3:37
CAL, Nieuwendyk 38 - (MacInnis, Suter) (pp) 5:26
CAL, Ranheim 21 - (Otto, Suter) 10:43
CAL, Yawney 1 - (Nieuwendyk, Roberts) 11:26
CAL, Berube 4 - (Paslawski, Skrudland) 13:45
3rd period: SJS, Wood 1 - (Odgers, Kisio) 8:00
CAL, Reichel 40 - 9:26
CAL, Roberts 38 - (Musil, Paslawski) (pp) 12:27
SJS, Kisio 26 - 13:10
CAL, Paslawski 18 - (Ashton, Stern) 16:16
Powerplay Opportunities-Sharks 1 of 3
Flames 2 of 4
Shots on Goal- Sharks 5 11 9 - 25
Flames 11 14 7 - 32
San Jose Sharks--Irbe (7-25-0) (32 shots - 25 saves)
Calgary Flames--Vernon (29-26-9) (25 shots - 22 saves)
ATT-19,532
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Vancouver Canucks (46-29-9) 1 2 5 - 8
Los Angeles Kings (39-35-10) 2 3 1 - 6
1st period: LAK, Robitaille 63 - (Gretzky, Sandstrom) 1:39
VAN, Babych 3 - (Craven, Nedved) (pp) 9:43
LAK, Sandstrom 25 - (Gretzky, Robitaille) 10:06
2nd period: VAN, Linden 32 - (Ronning, Courtnall) (pp) 0:54
VAN, Ward 22 - (Hunter, Nedved) 1:24
LAK, Gretzky 16 - (Sandstrom, Robitaille) 6:57
LAK, Zhitnik 12 - (Kurri, Robitaille) (pp) 14:02
LAK, Millen 23 - (Hardy) (pp) 16:57
3rd period: VAN, Ronning 27 - (Dirk) 5:28
VAN, Ronning 28 - (Courtnall, Linden) (pp) 11:15
VAN, Linden 33 - (Courtnall, Ronning) 11:27
LAK, Donnelly 29 - (Millen, Granato) (pp) 14:35
VAN, Courtnall 31 - (Ronning, Ratushny) 14:54
VAN, Ronning 29 - (Linden, Diduck) (en) 18:47
Powerplay Opportunities-Canucks 3 of 6
Kings 3 of 10
Shots on Goal- Canucks 8 6 16 - 30
Kings 10 21 10 - 41
Vanocuver Canucks--Whitmore (18-8-4) (41 shots - 35 saves)
Los Angeles Kings--Stauber (23 shots - 17 saves) Hrudey (17-21-6) (11:27
third) (6 shots - 5 saves)
ATT-16,005
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-SPIKE-
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8643 | From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Nntp-Posting-Host: valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Lines: 15
In article <1993Apr18.035941.14697@grebyn.com> richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel) writes:
>
>Heck, if IDE used DMA, then you'd hear all kinds of complaints about
>ISA bus systems with more than 16M RAM not working with their IDE
>drives. 16M is the DMA addressing limit of the ISA bus, and if IDE
>did DMA there would be trouble.
There would be no problems as long as the OS didn't set up a DMA transfer
to an area above the 16 mb area (the DMA controller probably can't be
programmed that way anyways, so there probably isin't a problem with this)
Besides, like I said before, the FDD controller uses DMA channel #2.
And I don't yet believe that the HDD controllers (any of them, MFM, RLL,
etc) don't also use DMA.
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8644 | From: rick@sundance.SJSU.EDU (Richard Warner)
Subject: Re: WinBench
Organization: San Jose State University - Math/CS Dept.
Lines: 36
al@col.hp.com (Al DeVilbiss) writes:
>jorge@erex.East.Sun.COM (Jorge Lach - Sun BOS Hardware) writes:
>> Is there any FTP site that carries WinBench results for different graphics
>> cards? In Excel (XLS) format? What is the latest version of WinBench and
>> how do they differ? Is the source available, and has anybody try to port it to
>> X-Window, at least in a way that will make comparisons possible?
>>
>On ftp.cica.indiana.edu in pub/pc/win3/misc/winadv.zip is a writeup by
>Steve Gibson of InfoWorld with winbench 3.11 and a number of other
>benchmark results for nine isa and four VLB video cards. This is a
>very current upload and is likely to have any card you're currently
>giving serious consideration. Not in XLS format. Latest version of
>WinBench that I know of is ver 3.11. I believe they try to maintain
>the same rating scale between versions, and new versions are released
>to defeat the lastest coding tricks put in by driver programmers to
>beat the benchmarks. Don't know on the last one.
And why they are considering using WinBench as a test, they may want
to read everything Steve Gibson has said on the subject in his
InfoWorld column the past couple of month. In short, virtually
every board manufacturer cheats on the test by writing things in the
driver that is there only to make the board appear faster on the
WinBench suite. So the WinBench score has no bearing in reality to
how cards stack up on real world tasks.
In the last PC-Magazine they benchmarked some of the new accelerators,
and admitted that many of them 'cheated' on WinBench. Interestingly,
they 'allowed' one type of cheating behaviour (caching for bitblt
operations, no matter how unreal), yet did not allow a couple of other
types of cheating behaviour that some of the cards used. At least
one card was eliminated from the "Editor's Choice" because of
cheating on the benchmark.
>Al DeVilbiss
>al@col.hp.com
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8645 | Subject: Re: Monitor Shut-down on 13" Hi-Res
From: sadams@eis.calstate.edu (Steven Adams)
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services
Lines: 34
Just my luck. I did however call my local Apple dealer and he said that
the he thinks the serial numbers of the machines that are covered begin
with either 70 or 53-56, and maybe one other. He also told me that Apple
had extended the service on these serial numbers for another year!!!
So there is still hope - Get those monitor in!!
jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu (Jeff Hite ) writes:
> In article <1993Apr15.183527.3365@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>
> hew@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
> > THere is a defect in the 13" hi-res monitors, bring it to a dealer and
> > they will replace the flyback for free, I think.
> >
> >
> > I just heard of this problem at work today and we are fixing
> > them for free.
> >
> >
> > ________________
> > - / o r r
>
> The service notice on the 13" hi-res monitors expired 3/23/93 after this
> date Apple will NOT reimburse service providers for the fix (replacement
> of the hi-voltage capacitor). All you folks that have been putting up with
> intermittant shutdowns without getting it to your service provider missed
> out on the freebie. It was in force for a year. If you got it free after
> 3/23, you got a deal...
> Jeff Hite
> Computing Center
> U of Oregon
> jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu
--
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8646 | From: nuet_ke@pts.mot.com (KEITH NUETZMAN X3153 P7625)
Subject: wife wants convertible
Nntp-Posting-Host: 145.4.54.110
Reply-To: nuet_ke@pts.mot.com
Organization: Paging and Wireless Data Group
Lines: 9
HELP!!!
my wife has informed me that she wants a convertible for her next car.
We live in South Fla., so we are definitely in the right are for one.
My wife has mentioned the Miata, but I think it is too small.
I would like to wait for the new Mustangs ( Dec. '93 I think).
Anyone have any opinions on any/all convertibles in a reasonable price range.
Thanx
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8647 | From: pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman)
Subject: Re: Deriving Pleasure from Death
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman)
Organization: Columbia University
Lines: 13
>them. (By the way, I do not applaud the killing of _any_ human being,
>including prisoners sentenced to death by our illustrious justice department)
>
>Peace.
>-marc
>
Boy, you really are a stupid person. Our justice department does
not sentence people to death. That's up to state courts. Again,
get a brain.
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8648 | Subject: AT's need what kinda battery???
From: grisch@uceng.uc.edu (George Risch)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Lines: 11
Hello,
I'm the proud owner of an IBM AT without a battery. I know it
hooks into jumper J21, but I need more info so I can replace it. What's
its voltage? Any suggestions for replacement? Where can I get one? Please
respond to :
grisch@uceng.uc.edu
Thanks,
-George
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8649 | From: abdkw@stdvax (David Ward)
Subject: Re: Shuttle Launch Question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center - Robotics Lab
Distribution: sci
Lines: 18
In article <C5JLwx.4H9.1@cs.cmu.edu>, ETRAT@ttacs1.ttu.edu (Pack Rat) writes...
>There has been something bothering me while watching
>NASA Select for a while. Well, I should'nt say
>bothering, maybe wondering would be better. When
>they are going to launch they say (sorry but I forget
>exactly who is saying what, OTC to PLT I think)
>"Clear caution & warning memory. Verify no unexpected
>errors. ...". I am wondering what an "expected error" might
>be. Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but
In pure speculation, I would guess cautions based on hazardous
pre-launch ops would qualify. Something like "Caution: SRBs
have just been armed."
It does raise an interesting question as to how hard it is to
pick out an Expected Error from an Unexpected Error in the heat
of the moment.
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8650 | From: mblawson@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Matthew B Lawson)
Subject: Which high-performance VLB video card?
Summary: Seek recommendations for VLB video card
Nntp-Posting-Host: midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Keywords: orchid, stealth, vlb
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My brother is in the market for a high-performance video card that supports
VESA local bus with 1-2MB RAM. Does anyone have suggestions/ideas on:
- Diamond Stealth Pro Local Bus
- Orchid Farenheit 1280
- ATI Graphics Ultra Pro
- Any other high-performance VLB card
Please post or email. Thank you!
- Matt
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8651 | From: Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Unconventional peace proposal
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1483500348:000:5967
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From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Unconventional peace proposal
A unconventional proposal for peace in the Middle-East.
---------------------------------------------------------- by
Elias Davidsson
The following proposal is based on the following assumptions:
1. Fundamental human rights, such as the right to life, to
education, to establish a family and have children, to human
dignity, the right to free movement, to free expression, etc. are
more important to human existence that the rights of states.
2. In the event of a conflict between basic human rights and
rights of collectivities, basic human rights should prevail.
3. Between the collectivities defining themselves as
Jewish-Israeli and Palestinian-Arab, however labelled, an
unresolved conflict exists.
4. This conflict has caused great sufferings for millions of
people. It moreover poisons relations between communities, peoples
and nations.
5. Each year, the United States expends billions of dollars
in economic and military aid to the conflicting parties.
6. Attempts to solve the Israeli-Arab conflict by traditional
political means have failed.
7. As long as the conflict is perceived as that between two
distinct ethnical/religious communities/peoples which claim the
land, there is no just nor peaceful solution possible.
8. Love between human beings can be capitalized for the sake
of peace and justice. When people love, they share.
Having stated my assumptions, I will now state my proposal.
1. A Fund should be established which would disburse grants
for each child born to a couple where one partner is Israeli-Jew
and the other Palestinian-Arab.
2. To be entitled for a grant, a couple will have to prove
that one of the partners possesses or is entitled to Israeli
citizenship under the Law of Return and the other partner,
although born in areas under current Isreali control, is not
entitled to such citizenship under the Law of Return.
3. For the first child, the grant will amount to $18.000. For
the second the third child, $12.000 for each child. For each
subsequent child, the grant will amount to $6.000 for each child.
4. The Fund would be financed by a variety of sources which
have shown interest in promoting a peaceful solution to the
Israeli-Arab conflict, including the U.S. Government, Jewish and
Christian organizations in the U.S. and a great number of
governments and international organizations.
5. The emergence of a considerable number of 'mixed'
marriages in Israel/Palestine, all of whom would have relatives on
'both sides' of the divide, would make the conflict lose its
ethnical and unsoluble core and strengthen the emergence of a
truly civil society. The existence of a strong 'mixed' stock of
people would also help the integration of Israeli society into the
Middle-East in a graceful manner.
Objections to this proposal will certainly be voiced. I will
attempt to identify some of these:
1. The idea of providing financial incentives to selected
forms of partnership and marriage, is not conventional. However,
it is based on the concept of affirmative action, which is
recognized as a legitimate form of public policy to reverse the
perverse effects of segregation and discrimination. International
law clearly permits affirmative action when it is aimed at
reducing racial discrimination and segregation.
2. It may be objected that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
is not primarily a religious or ethnical conflict, but that it is
a conflict between a colonialist settler society and an indigenous
colonized society that can only regain its freedom by armed
struggle. This objection is based on the assumption that the
'enemy' is not Zionism as ideology and practice, but
Israeli-Jewish society and its members which will have to be
defeated. This objection has no merit because it does not fulfill
the first two assumptions concerning the primacy of fundamental
human rights over collective rights (see above)
3. Fundamentalist Jews would certainly object to the use of
financial incentives to encourage 'mixed marriages'. From their
point of view, the continued existence of a specific Jewish People
overrides any other consideration, be it human love, peace of
human rights. The President of the World Jewish Congress, Edgar
Bronfman, reflected this view a few years ago in an interview he
gave to Der Spiegel, a German magazine. He called the increasing
assimilation of Jews in the world a <calamity>, comparable in its
effects only with the Holocaust. This objection has no merit
either because it does not fulfill the first two assumptions (see
above)
4. It may objected that only a few people in
Israel/Palestine, would request such grants and that it would thus
not serve its purpose. To this objection one might respond that
although it is not possible to determine with certainty the effect
of such a proposal, the existence of such a Fund would help mixed
couples to resist the pressure of their respective societies and
encourage young couples to reject fundamentalist and racist
attitudes.
5. It may objected that such a Fund would need great sums to
bring about substantial demographic changes. This objection has
merits. However, it must be remembered that huge sums, more than
$3 billion, are expended each year by the United States government
and by U.S. organizations to maintain an elusive peace in the
Middle-East through armaments. A mere fraction of these sums would
suffice to launch the above proposal and create a more favorable
climate towards the existence of 'mixed' marriages in
Israel/Palestine, thus encouraging the emergence of a
non-segregated society in that worn-torn land.
I would be thankful for critical comments to the above proposal as
well for any dissemination of this proposal for meaningful
discussion and enrichment.
Elias Davidsson Post Box 1760 121 Reykjavik, ICELAND
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8652 | From: mrw9e@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Michael Robert Williams)
Subject: Re: Orion drive in vacuum -- how?
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 25
In article <1993Apr17.053333.15696@sfu.ca> Leigh Palmer <palmer@sfu.ca> writes:
>In article <1qn4bgINN4s7@mimi.UU.NET> James P. Goltz, goltz@mimi.UU.NET
>writes:
>> Background: The Orion spacedrive was a theoretical concept.
>
>It was more than a theoretical concept; it was seriously pursued by
>Freeman Dyson et al many years ago. I don't know how well-known this is,
>but a high explosive Orion prototype flew (in the atmosphere) in San
>Diego back in 1957 or 1958. I was working at General Atomic at the time,
>but I didn't learn about the experiment until almost thirty years later,
>when
>Ted Taylor visited us and revealed that it had been done. I feel sure
>that someone must have film of that experiment, and I'd really like to
>see it. Has anyone out there seen it?
>
>Leigh
Nope, I haven't seen the film, but Taylor's biography ("The Curve of
Binding Energy") contains a short section on Orion and this test flight.
Apparently it was quite impressi, and got von Braun very excited.
In Real Life:Mike Williams | Perpetual Grad Student
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8653 | From: uschelp3@idbsu.edu (Mike Madson)
Subject: Tires For Sale
Summary: The last one was a test.
Lines: 6
Nntp-Posting-Host: 132.178.16.65
Organization: bsu
I have a set of four 235-60-R14 Big O tires that I had on my 1988 Thunder
Bird. We bought them and then traided the car in. They would not give me
anything for them so I had them taken off. We drove about 2,000 miles on
them. They are 40,000 mile tires. They are sporty looking low-profile, and
take corners realy well. If you are interested please contact me at (208)384-
9236 OR DUSMADSO@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU I am in IDAHO. USA
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8654 | From: ronaldm@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Ron Mastus)
Subject: Problem with Adaptec 1542B SCSI and Jumbo Tape Drive
Summary: Problem getting Jumbo Tape drive and Adaptec SCSI working together
Keywords: SCSI CMS Jumbo Adaptec 1542B Tape
Nntp-Posting-Host: extro.ucc.su.oz.au
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Lines: 39
Hi,
I've just replaced my existing DTC SCSI controller with an Adaptec 1542B,
and am now having trouble restoring from a Jumbo 250 tape drive.
I had no trouble installing the Adaptec and DOS recognises both the SCSI
drive and an existing IDE drive - however when I went to restore the backups
from the Jumbo tape I found that it was extremely slow (estimated time 3 mins
actual time 15 min!) I have no trouble restoring from the same tape to the IDE
drive.
I seem to remember reading that some settings had to be changed to
enable the Jumbo drive and the Adaptec to work together but I can't find any
mention of it in the manuals.
My system config is:
i486DX/33 4Mb
Adaptec 1542B running 180Mb Fujitsu SCSI
IDE Controller running 200Mb IDE
Jumbo 250 running off floppy controller on IDE
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks,
Ron. (ronaldm@extro.ucc.su.oz.au)
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41 Mariposa Rd
Phone +61 2 ???-???? (work) Bilgola Plateau 2107
+61 2 918-8152 (home) Australia
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41 Mariposa Rd
Phone +61 2 ???-???? (work) Bilgola Plateau 2107
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8655 | From: arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arnie Skurow)
Subject: Re: Live Free, but Quietly, or Die
Article-I.D.: magnus.1993Apr6.184322.18666
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Nntp-Posting-Host: bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
In article <C52nnt.J3I@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (R
ussell P. Hughes) writes:
>What a great day! Got back home last night from some fantastic skiing
>in Colorado, and put the battery back in the FXSTC. Cleaned the plugs,
>opened up the petcock, waited a minute, hit the starter, and bingo it
>started up like a charm! Spent a restless night anticipating the first
>ride du saison, and off I went this morning to get my state inspection
>done. Now my bike is stock (so far) except for HD slash-cut pipes, and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Therein lies the rub. The HD slash cut, or baloney cuts as some call
them, ARE NOT STOCK mufflers. They're sold for "off-road use only,"
and are much louder than stock mufflers.
Arnie
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8656 | From: kempmp@phoenix.oulu.fi (Petri Pihko)
Subject: Re: Atheist's views on Christianity (was: Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart...")
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
Lines: 135
Jason Smith (jasons@atlastele.com) wrote:
: [ The discussion begins: why does the universe exist at all? ]
: One of the Laws of Nature, specifying cause and effect seems to dictate
: (at least to this layman's mind) there must be a causal event. No
: reasonable alternative exists.
I would argue that causality is actually a property of spacetime;
causes precede their effects. But if you claim that there must be
an answer to "how" did the universe (our spacetime) emerge from
"nothing", science has some good candidates for an answer.
I have always wondered why Christians use the "There are questions
science (or atheism) cannot answer" argument; I hope this is the
appropriate group to ask this question.
The most popular question is the question of origins. Why does the
universe exist, or anything, for that matter?
I think this question should actually be split into two parts, namely
1) Why is there existence? Why anything exists?
and
2) How did the universe emerge from nothing?
It is clear science has nothing to say about the first question. However,
is it a meaningful question, after all?
I would say it isn't. Consider the following:
A die-hard skeptic being (be it human or whatever) attempts to doubt
one's very existence. Since it is so easy to doubt everything else -
I cannot be _sure_ the world exists, it may be my mind fooling me -
can I ever be sure I exist?
However, it is only possible to exist or not to exist. (Someone
insert an appropriate Shakespeare quote here ;-) )
A being that does not exist cannot doubt one's existence.
A being that does exist can doubt one's existence, but this would be
pointless - the being would exist anyway.
Let us return to the original question: why? A being that does not
exist does not need any reasons for its non-existence. This being
is not _sure_ whether anything else exists but his mind, but let
us assume that the world exists independent of the mind (the objectivity
postulate). The question "why anything exists" can be countered by
demanding answer to a question "why there is nothing in nothingness,
or in non-existence". Actually, both questions turn out to be
devoid of meaning. Things that exist do, and things that don't exist
don't exist. Tautology at its best.
I seriously doubt God could have an answer to this question.
Some Christians I have talked to have said that actually, God is
Himself the existence. However, I see several problems with this
answer. First, it inevitably leads to the conclusion that God is
actually _all_ existence, good and evil, devils and angels, us and
them. This is pantheism, not Christianity.
Another answer is that God is the _source_ of all existence.
This sounds much better, but I am tempted to ask: Does God
Himself exist, then? If God is the source of His own existence,
it can only mean that He has, in terms of human time, always
existed. But this is not the same as the source of all existence.
This argument sounds like God does not exist, but meta-exists,
and from His meta-existent perspective, He created existence.
I think this is actually a nonsolution, a mere twist of words.
The best answer I have heard is that human reasoning is incapable
of understanding such questions. Being an atheist myself, I do not
accept such answers, since I do not have any other methods.
The second question: How did the universe emerge from nothing?
belongs to the domain of science, and I, for one, do not doubt the
question can be answered by its methods. Many cosmologists have
suggested that it is entirely possible for universes to emerge
from vacuum (this possibility has been suggested in a recent
Hawking biography; see also Lizhi & Shuxian: Creation of the Universe,
World Scientific, 1989). However, I think the sci groups are more
appropriate for discussions like this.
: As far as I can tell, the very laws of nature demand a "why". That isn't
: true of something outside of nature (i.e., *super*natural).
This is not true. Science is a collection of models telling us "how",
not why, something happens. I cannot see any good reason why the "why"
questions would be bound only to natural things, assuming that the
supernatural domain exists. If supernatural beings exist, it is
as appropriate to ask why they do so as it is to ask why we exist.
: I believe the "genetic code" will be entirely deciphered in our lifetimes,
: but we will not see man convert entirely inert material into self sustaining,
: reproducing life, *ever*. (I've never been much of a prophet, though. I
: can't even *picture* New York in my mind 8^] ). I don't believe *any*
: technology would be able to produce that necessary *spark* of life, despite
: having all of the parts available. Just my opinion.
This opinion is also called vitalism; namely, that living systems are
somehow _fundamentally_ different from inanimate systems. Do Christians
in general adopt this position? What would happen when scientists announce
they have created primitive life (say, small bacteria) in a lab?
There is a problem with your prophecy: artificial life has been created,
although not yet in a chemical form. Computer simulations of evolution
contain systems that are as much alive as any bacterium, although
their code is electronic, as well as their metabolism. See a recent book
Steven Levy: Artificial life - The Quest for a New Creation. Jonathan
Cape, London 1992.
Artificial chemical life is just around the corner - after all, no
spark of life has been found to be necessary; living systems do not
violate any physical laws as we know them.
: You don't mind if a few of us send up a prayer on your behalf during your
: research, do you? After all, if we of Christ are deluding ourselves, you
: really have nothing to worry about, eh?
Exactly. This is why I think atheists should _not_ post any evangelical
atheist arguments to soc.religion groups, since people who seek to
find peace in religions must be allowed to gather together. I would
normally have asked these questions in alt.atheism or talk.religion.misc,
but it seems many Christians do not read these groups.
Petri
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8657 | From: Pegasus@aaa.uoregon.edu (Pegasus)
Subject: Re: Merlin, Mithras and Magick
Organization: the Polyhedron Group
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Distribution: world
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In article <JOSHUA.93Apr19183833@bailey.cpac.washington.edu>,
joshua@cpac.washington.edu (Joshua Geller) wrote:
>
>
> In article <Pegasus-150493132018@fp1-dialin-4.uoregon.edu>
> Pegasus@aaa.uoregon.edu (LaurieEWBrandt) writes:
>
LEWB>> Lets add to those percentages 13-15% for the Orphaic docterians
brought LEWB>>to the group by Paul/Saul who was a high ranking initiate. On
the LEWB>>development of Orphaic Mysteries, see Jane Harrisons .Prolegomena
to the LEWB>>study of Greek religion. Cambridge U Press 1922. and you can
easly draw LEWB>>your own conclusions.
josh> perhaps you can quote just a bit of her argument?
Love to,but I must do it a bit later My copy of Harrison in packed, but the
last chapter as best as I can rember deals with Orphic mysteries and their
views of women though she does not come out and say it it is strongly
implyed that the Christian view was drawn heavly from the Orphic and other
Major cults of the time.
Pegasus
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8658 | From: tom@igc.apc.org
Subject: computer cult
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1469100033:000:2451
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!tom Apr 24 09:26:00 1993
Lines: 59
From: <tom>
Subject: computer cult
From scott Fri Apr 23 16:31:21 1993
Received: by igc.apc.org (4.1/Revision: 1.77 )
id AA16121; Fri, 23 Apr 93 16:31:09 PDT
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 16:31:09 PDT
Message-Id: <9304232331.AA16121@igc.apc.org>
From: Scott Weikart <scott>
Sender: scott
To: cdplist
Subject: Next stand-off?
Status: R
Redwood City, CA (API) -- A tense stand-off entered its third week
today as authorities reported no progress in negotiations with
charismatic cult leader Steve Jobs.
Negotiators are uncertain of the situation inside the compound, but
some reports suggest that half of the hundreds of followers inside
have been terminated. Others claim to be staying of their own free
will, but Jobs' persuasive manner makes this hard to confirm.
In conversations with authorities, Jobs has given conflicting
information on how heavily prepared the group is for war with the
industry. At times, he has claimed to "have hardware which will blow
anything else away", while more recently he claims they have stopped
manufacturing their own.
Agents from the ATF (Apple-Taligent Forces) believe that the group is
equipped with serious hardware, including 486-caliber pieces and
possibly Canon equipment.
The siege has attracted a variety of spectators, from the curious to
other cultists. Some have offered to intercede in negotiations,
including a young man who will identify himself only as "Bill" and
claims to be the "MS-iah".
Former members of the cult, some only recently deprogrammed, speak
hesitantly of their former lives, including being forced to work
20-hour days, and subsisting on Jolt and Twinkies. There were
frequent lectures in which they were indoctrinated into a theory of
"interpersonal computing" which rejects traditional roles.
Late-night vigils on Chesapeake Drive are taking their toll on
federal marshals. Loud rock and roll, mostly Talking Heads, blares
throughout the night. Some fear that Jobs will fulfill his own
apocalyptic prophecies, a worry reinforced when the loudspeakers
carry Jobs' own speeches -- typically beginning with a chilling "I
want to welcome you to the 'Next World' ".
- - --
Roland J. Schemers III | Networking Systems
Systems Programmer | G16 Redwood Hall (415) 723-6740
Distributed Computing Group | Stanford, CA 94305-4122
Stanford University | schemers@Slapshot.Stanford.EDU
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8659 | From: vigil@esca.com (Sandra Vigil)
Subject: Re: Hispanic All-Star team
Organization: ESCA Corporation, Bellevue WA
Lines: 49
icop@csa.bu.edu (Antonio Pera) writes:
> Hispanic magazine(April 1993) had a couple of interesting articles about
>Hispanic players including its Hispanic All-Star team.
>Some of the major points are:
NPR's Morning Edition aired a report this morning (4/19) on
Hispanic/Latin American players in MLB and how they have many of
the same problems faced by black/negro/African American players
when they first entered the league. However, although baseball
has adjusted to the presence of black players, many Hispanic
players still labor under the stereotype of being "fireballs,
hot blooded, flashy". The report also emphasised that despite
the rantings (my word) of Jessie Jackson about baseballs
discrimination against black players in its upper echelons,
baseball has actually done much better by black players than
Hispanic players.
Another interesting point was the language barrier problem. The
reporter elaborated on an interview with Ruben Sierra which he
gave in Spanish to a Spanish speaking newspaper reporter with
the fact that there are maybe 2 major baseball writers that
speak Spanish, despite the fact that Spanish is one of (if not
the) easiest languages to learn, so easy that the author Cormac
McCarthy learned Spanish at age 50 in order to research his
book, _All The Pretty Horses_. Yet, few MLB organizations
employ Spanish speaking personel, one of the exceptions being
the Oakland A's.
Another point:
Nearly 90% of Latin American players have some African blood.
Yet, most report that they'd never really felt black until
playing ball in the US.
Ironically enough, it is the early presence of Latin American
baseball players in the Major Leagues that support the idea that
baseball was integrated before the arrival of Jackie Robinson,
as many "light black" or "brown", Latin Americans were
incorporated into baseball.
/S
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of images, but I believed in the healing | Sandra Vigil |
power of words and stories." | vigil@esca.com |
- Until the End of the World -------------------
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8660 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: Patient-Physician Diplomacy
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 18
In article <1993Mar29.130824.16629@aoa.aoa.utc.com> carl@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Carl Witthoft) writes:
>What is "unacceptable" about this is that hospitals and MDs by law
>have no choice but to treat you if you show up sick or mangled from
>an accident. If you aren't rich and have no insurance, who is going
>to foot your bills? Do you actually intend to tell the ambulance
>"No, let me die in the gutter because I can't afford the treatment"??
By law, they would not be allowed to do that anyhow.
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geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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8661 | From: sandy47@cats.ucsc.edu ()
Subject: Laserdisks Forsale - $20
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Lines: 97
Distribution: usa
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8662 | From: eab@msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Subject: Re: I have seen the lobby, and it is us
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I agree that notifying your elected officials of your feelings on this
(and any other, for that matter) issue is the way to go. And by the
way, the phone #s on the list posted the other day were all in Washington
D.C. -- For most of you, your elected officials will also maintain
a local office in your area code.
When I 'manage' my elected officials, I use their local office #'s
exclusively, and my fax modem and windows-print-capture software are
my tool of choice. They see my words as I have stated them, rather
than a summary as they would if I called in /voice/ and left a
comment with the office staff.
--
Edward A. Bertsch (eab@msc.edu) Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc.
Operations/User Services 1200 Washington Avenue South
(612) 626-1888 work Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415
(612) 645-0168 voice mail [DISCLAIMER: MY OPINIONS; NOT MSCI'S]
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8663 | From: dealy@narya.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian Dealy - CSC)
Subject: Re: Motif maling list
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Originator: dealy@narya.gsfc.nasa.gov
The motif mailing list will now be located at
lobo.gsfc.nasa.gov
If you would like to be added (or deleted) from this list, please
send mail to motif-request@lobo.gsfc.nasa.gov
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dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing
!uunet!dftsrv!kong!dealy | | where it's not at... B.Dylan
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8664 | From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: The Manitoban Candidate
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Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
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smith@phoneme.harvard.edu (Steven Smith) writes:
>bross@sandbanks.cosc.brocku.ca (Brian Ross) writes:
>
>> In the world of the future, Bill Clinton will appoint Canadians to
>> govern all American institutions (starting with the American health
>> care system). We will be benevolent Canadian dictators.
>
>With yet another tax being floated by the Clinton administration to
>pay for new ``free'' social programs, I've really begun to suspect
>that the Canadians, long resentful of their place in the American
>shadow, brainwashed an American draft dodger who fled to Canada some
>time between 1966 and 1968, tutored him in the ways of Canadian
>socialism, awarded him with smokeless marijuana cigarettes when he got
>the correct answers, then returned him to the states (under the
>control of the domineering wife assigned to his case) to attain high
>public office and destroy the evil individualistic and free market
>forces in America, thus shaping America in the Canadian image.
And not only that, made a second clone from the same tissue sample
after that of said domineering wife, to run at the helm of the
more-pro-business party under guise of more free trade ... and
she did inhale, many times, to boot ...
(-; (-; (-;
gld
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> gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
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8665 | Subject: roman.bmp 13/14
From: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff)
Reply-To: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of South Dakota
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8666 | From: peter.m@insane.apana.org.au (Peter Tryndoch)
Subject: What'S A Good Ic For Rs23
Lines: 13
AllTall Cool OneWhat's a good IC for RS23
TC>From: rky57514@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tall Cool One )
TC>Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
TC>I'm looking for an IC that will convert RS232 voltage levels to TTL vo
TC>levels. Something relatively inexpensive would be nice, too. Anyone
TC>a suggestion?? Thanks.
Try a Maxim "MAX232CPE" 8 pin dil, converts 5V to 12V for 232commms.
What a clever little gizmo!
Peter T.
|
8667 | From: garrett@Ingres.COM (THE SKY ALREADY FELL. NOW WHAT?)
Subject: Recent News
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1
Keywords:
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Lines: 35
In the hopes of adding a little life to, what seems to be, the
same old debates, I would like to add a few bits of info and ask for
comments.
1) A couple days ago the headlines were splashed with stories of proof
that the North Vietnamese had held U.S. hostages after the war ended.
Way back in today's newspaper (Page A7 of San Francisco Chronicle)
there is an article about the document that held the proof.
[used without permission]
"The document, which was discovered in the archives of the Soviet
Communist Party in Moscow, is a Russian translation of what is described
as a September 1972 report prepared for the Vietnam Politburo by General
Tran Van Quang, who is identified as the deputy chief of staff of the
North Vietnamese army."
[later on in the article after it talks about the claim of 1,205
Americans in North Vietnamese prisons]
"Phong said the easiest way to prove that the document is a
fabrication is to review Quang's career. In 1972, he said, Quang was
not deputy chief of staff; he was the army commander in Military Region 4
in central Vietnam."
2) I heard on the radio that the Church of Scientology has filed for
bankrupcy becuase the employees of Cocolat , owned by CoS, filed a
class action suit against them for requiring the employees to pay dues
to become members of the Church. Anyone heard more about this?
3) Micheal Jackson went into business with Micheal Milken. No lie.
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8668 | From: jwg@sedv1.acd.com ( Jim Grey)
Subject: Re: Necessity of fuel injector cleaning by dealership
Organization: Hell
Lines: 19
In article <1993Apr2.174850.6289@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount) writes:
>
>In your experience, how true is it that a fuel injector cleaning
>will do much more good than just using detergent gas. While I
>agree that a clogged fuel injector would darken my day, how clogged
>do they get, and is $59 a good price (or can I do it myself by buying
>a can of ____ (what?) and doing ___ what?
A "fuel injector cleaning" at the dealer is probably little more than
them opening your gas tank, dumping in a bottle of fuel injector cleaner,
and sending you on your merry way $59 poorer. Go to KMart and buy the
cleaner yourself for $1.29.
Just because you dealer sez you need it, don't mean it's necessarily so.
Be suspicious.
jim grey
jwg@acd4.acd.com
|
8669 | From: JEK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: hearing sinners
Lines: 18
On the question, "Does God hear the prayers of sinners?" we need to
distinguish.
If we say that He never hears the prayers of any who have sinned, we
make pointless all prayers by anyone born less than 19 centuries
ago.
But if we consider the prayers of the impenitent sinner, of someone
who says, "Lord, I want you to do this for me, but don't expect me
to change my way of life," that is a different matter. Even here, I
would not venture to say that God never grants such petitions (just
as He sends sun and rain on the evil and on the good). However, if
someone we know well is praying to God in that spirit, we might have
the responsibility to say, "Remember, if God's help is real, then so
are His commands."
Yours,
James Kiefer
|
8670 | From: William_Mosco@vos.stratus.com
Subject: RE: Blast them next time
Organization: Stratus Computer, Marlboro Ma.
Lines: 29
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hudm4-enet.mfg.stratus.com
> #DELETED BECAUSE IT SOUNDS TWISTED"
>With the WoD and the increased crime in the streets the BATF is needed
>more now then ever. If they blast away a few good fokes then that is
>the price we all have to pay for law and order in this country. Look
>at all the good people that died in wars to protect this great country
>of ours.
##flame thrower on##
Well I don't want my tax dollars going to that kind of philosophy.
maybe if the good folks you are talking about are people like you
than I might be inclined to accept it. What does the batf do anyway?
Why don't we have a bureau for militant, paranoid, freedom killers
like yourself. People like you are more dangerous than alcohol,
tobacco and firearms.
>With the arms build up in Waco they needed to hit that compound with
>mega fire power. They could of gone in there blasting and killed a few
>women and kids but it would of been better then letting them all burn
>to death 51 days later.
Maybe we should just have nuked the whole city, I mean, what's a
100,000 good souls anyway?
Get real, you sound like a racist. I guess life isn't so precious
to you, do you realize that there were 24 children KILLED!!!
They will never get to fall in love, they won't see another sunrise,
no prom, no first date, no football, baseball no NOTHING. Why doesn't
some people think first before they let everyone know how narrow they
are.
"Flame thrower off"
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8671 | From: randy@msc.cornell.edu
Subject: SCSI vs. IDE
Organization: Cornell University
Lines: 8
Do all SCSI cards for DOS systems require a separate device driver to be loaded
into memory for each SCSI device hooked up? Will this also be true of the 32-bit
OS's?
Thanks.
Randy
|
8672 | From: pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: Re: Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter?
Article-I.D.: srl03.pgf.734063192
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Lines: 22
shag@aero.org (Rob Unverzagt) writes:
>In article <5APR199318045045@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes:
>> According the IAU Circular #5744, Comet Shoemaker-Levy 1993e, may be
>> temporarily in orbit around Jupiter. The comet had apparently made a
>> close flyby of Jupiter sometime in 1992 resulting in the breakup of the
>> comet. Attempts to determine the comet's orbit has been complicated by
>> the near impossibility of measuring the comet's center of mass.
>>
>Am I missing something -- what does knowing the comet's center
>of mass do for you in orbit determination?
>Shag
I'm not sure, but it almost sounds like they can't figure out where the
_nucleus_ is within the coma. If they're off by a couple hundred
miles, well, you can imagine the rest...
--
Phil Fraering |"Seems like every day we find out all sorts of stuff.
pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|Like how the ancient Mayans had televison." Repo Man
|
8673 | From: ychen@hubcap.clemson.edu (Eric Chen)
Subject: Fortegraph Emulator Card, what's this?
Organization: Clemson University, Clemson SC
Lines: 14
someone gave me this brand new card. I am thinking to sell it cuz
I don't need it. but the problem is that i don't even know what this
is.
this was made by Forte Communications Co. it has 2 board combined
together (looks wierd to me) and has 2 9 pin ports (one male and one
female), and also has a round port (like BNC, not sure).
this was made in 1986, and has a "fortegraph emulator & diagnostic" disk
with it.
has anyone here ever seen this or known what this is.
appreciate your help in advance.
eric
|
8674 | From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: SGI sales practices (Was: Crimson (Was: Kubota Announcement?))
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA
Lines: 90
In <1qjrec$qem@network.ucsd.edu> spl@ivem.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:
| What I *am* annoyed about is the fact that we were led to believe that
| we *would* be able to upgrade to a multiprocessor version of the
| Crimson without the assistance of a fork lift truck.
It should have been made fairly clear that the *most* Crimson would
ever get was a 150 (75 old style) MHz CPU upgrade. Certainly this
was mentioned on comp.sys.sgi on more than one occasion as being
likely. If our sales folks were saying otherwise, they were either
confused, or less than honest/ethical, or somebody further up the
chain inside SGI was misleading them.
| I'm also annoyed about being sold *several* Personal IRISes at a
| previous site on the understanding *that* architecture would be around
| for a while, rather than being flushed.
There were 4 versions (20, 25, 30, 35), although admittedly the 30 came
out at the same time as the 35, over a period of 2 1/2 years. The
chassis simply couldn't be pushed any further. I'd say 4 years was
a pretty good lifespan, myself, for a system design in this day and
age. Getting the 35 to work caused a lot of gray hairs in both the
hardware and product design groups; we would have been out of our
minds to push it further, and I *know* that was made clear, almost
from the day the 35 started shipping. We had one last kicker in
the form of the Elan graphics, which made 3 graphics versions over
its lifespan, which I also think is pretty good.
| Now I understand that SGI is responsible to its investors and has to
| keep showing a positive quarterly bottom line (odd that I found myself
| pressured on at least two occasions to get the business on the books
| just before the end of the quarter), but I'm just a little tired of
| getting boned in the process.
Please, by all means send a complaint letter through SGI support
or sales on your concerns. There should be no reason for sales folks
to misrepresent future upgrades to customers (sure, sometimes there
will be confusion for a while, over whether an upgrade will be available,
but that shouldn't last too long, and doesn't seem to be what you
are referring to).
Yes, the sales folks *do* get bonus's at the end of some (all?) quarters,
but that is pretty common industry wide, and sometimes that can result
in good deals for customers (sometimes it probably pushes folks into
systems that aren't what they need, I'm sure, but nobody is *forcing*
you to buy at end of quarter, after all...)
| Maybe it's because my lab buys SGIs in onesies and twosies, so we
| aren't entitled to a "peek under the covers" as the Big Kids (NASA,
| for instance) are. This lab, and I suspect that a lot of other labs
They don't get all that long a lead time either; although certainly
they get presentations on possible new products, and their opinions
may well influence the end product, but that also is life in the
industry. We can't design systems that meet just their needs, or we
won't sell too many systems, after all (which is not to say that we
don't have some niche products, like Reality Engine).
| and organizations, doesn't have a load of money to spend on computers
| every year, so we can't be out buying new systems on a regular basis.
| The boxes that we buy now will have to last us pretty much through the
| entire grant period of five years and, in some case, beyond. That
| means that I need to buy the best piece of equipment that I can when I
| have the money, not some product that was built, to paraphrase one
| previous poster's words, 'to fill a niche' to compete with some other
| vendor. I'm going to be looking at this box for the next five years.
| And every time I look at it, I'm going to think about SGI and how I
| could have better spent my money (actually *your* money, since we're
| supported almost entirely by Federal tax dollars).
But surely you don't expect a system you buy now for a five year
period to be constantly upgradable over that entire five year
period? That's a rather unreasonable expectation, in my experience
(with workstations/microcomputers). Supported, and parts available,
yes, but certainly not upgradable to the latest and greatest!
| Now you'll have to pardon me while I go off and hiss and fume in a
| corner somewhere and think dark, libelous thoughts.
I missed your first posting, but as I say, by all means share your
frustation with somebody at a level inside SGI where it might
have an effect (not immediate, I'm sure, but complaints aren't
going to be ignored, and *may* affect future plans, if we
hear similar things from more than one person/site).
All of the above is, as usual, my personal opinion, not SGI's.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent, | Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents. | Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Maria Isabel Barreno | olson@sgi.com
PS: I start my sabbatical 29 May, ask those questions now ;)
|
8675 | From: wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr)
Subject: Re: ABOLISH SELECTIVE SERVICE
Organization: Northeastern Law, Class of '93
Lines: 18
NNTP-Posting-Host: nw12-326-1.mit.edu
In-reply-to: william@fractl.tn.cornell.edu
In article <1qpvj2$dfp@fitz.TC.Cornell.EDU>,
william@fractl.tn.cornell.edu said in response to Dave Borden:
> You selfish little bastard. Afraid you might have to sacrafice
> somthing for your country. What someone not approve a lone for you ?
> To bad. What is immoral is: people like you and the current president
> who don't have any idea why this country still exists after 200+
> years.
William: If the reason that this country still stands after 200+ years
is that it uses military conscription to force young men to fight for
causes that they don't believe in strongly enough to volunteer for
military service in support of, then perhaps the fact that the country
is still standing is not good news...
-- William December Starr <wdstarr@athena.mit.edu>
|
8676 | From: kennu@mits.mdata.fi (Kenneth Falck)
Subject: Re: CView answers
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service
Nntp-Posting-Host: mits.mdata.fi
Lines: 32
In article <C5Mv2n.49t@rahul.net> bryanw@rahul.net (Bryan Woodworth) writes:
>In <1993Apr17.113223.12092@imag.fr> schaefer@imag.imag.fr (Arno Schaefer) writes:
>
>>Sorry, Bryan, this is not quite correct. Remember the VGALIB package that comes
>>with Linux/SLS? It will switch to VGA 320x200x256 mode *without* Xwindows.
>>So at least it is *possible* to write a GIF viewer under Linux. However I don't
>>think that there exists a similar SVGA package, and viewing GIFs in 320x200 is
>>not very nice.
>
>No, VGALIB? Amazing.. I guess it was lost in all those subdirs :-)
>Thanks for correcting me. It doesn't sound very appealing though, only
>320x200? I'm glad it wasn't something major I missed.
Tommy Frandsen's VGAlib (which is probably what you're talking about)
will do the standard VGA modes, some tweaked modes and then the Tseng
ET4000 Super VGA modes. I have an ET4000 and I'm viewing GIF's at
640x480/256 (I have a lousy/small monitor) with dpg-view on Linux. I
think I had to change some constants in the dpg-view sources to make it
use the ET4k modes.
VGAlib's sources seem to be designed for easy addition of new Super VGA
support; each mode is an array of register values and there's a program
that dumps an array declaration of this kind describing the current
mode. Haven't tried it though...
(Btw, my version of VGAlib is 1.2.)
--
kennu@mits.mdata.fi
Try Linux, a free UNIX by Linus Torvalds for 386+'s. Read comp.os.linux
(or ask me by email if you like) for more information. You can run X11,
TeX, GNU EMACS and much more on top of a nice POSIX environment.
|
8677 | From: tbigham@shearson.com (Tim Bigham)
Subject: Re: Advice on BMWs and winter driving
Reply-To: tbigham@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Lines: 26
This past winter I drove from NYC to Killington,VT 6 or 7 times in my
1990 325i Convertible (talk about poor reputation in the snow!!)
with an EXCELLENT set of snow tires. I put 4 Noika NR10s on in Dec. and have been
sure footed in some pretty severe weather conditions ever since. I've plowed through
4 - 5 inch snow covered roads effortlessly, while other cars have been paralyzed
(front wheel drive included).
Concentrate more on "where the rubber meets the road" rather than driveability of cars
in snowy conditions. Drive carefully, buy good snow tires, and most cars will perform
adequately in less than ideal conditions.
An aside:
I can't praise Noika NR10 snows enough. Absolutely the BEST snow tires I have ever
driven on. If you live in the snow belt, do yourself a favor and get a set of these
next winter.
Tim
---
Timothy J. Bigham | All opinions expressed above are my own
Lehman Brothers, Inc. | and should not be construed as those of
AMEX Tower, World Financial Center | my employer.
New York, N.Y. |
|
8678 | From: bds@uts.ipp-garching.mpg.de (Bruce d. Scott)
Subject: Re: News briefs from KH # 1026
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft in Garching
Lines: 21
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uts.ipp-garching.mpg.de
Mack posted:
"I know nothing about statistics, but what significance does the
relatively small population growth rate have where the sampling period
is so small (at the end of 1371)?"
This is not small. A 2.7 per cent annual population growth rate implies
a doubling in 69/2.7 \approx 25 years. Can you imagine that? Most people
seem not able to, and that is why so many deny that this problem exists,
for me most especially in the industrialised countries (low growth rates,
but large environmental impact). Iran's high growth rate threatens things
like accelerated desertification due to intensive agriculture, deforestation,
and water table drop. Similar to what is going on in California (this year's
rain won't save you in Stanford!). This is probably more to blame than
the current government's incompetence for dropping living standards
in Iran.
--
Gruss,
Dr Bruce Scott The deadliest bullshit is
Max-Planck-Institut fuer Plasmaphysik odorless and transparent
bds at spl6n1.aug.ipp-garching.mpg.de -- W Gibson
|
8679 | From: stlouis@unixg.ubc.ca (Phill St. Louis)
Subject: Billy Taylor a Brave or Jay?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Lines: 8
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Does anyone know where Billy Taylor is? Richmond or Syracuse? He was taken
by the Jays in the Rule V draft, but not kept on the roster. Baseball Weekly
said that he was demoted to Syracuse, but a Toronto paper indicated that
the Braves took him back. Is there an Atlanta fan, or anyone reading this,
who knows?
Thanks
psl
|
8680 | From: ak333@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Martin Linsenbigler)
Subject: Re: Permanent Swap File
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 39
Reply-To: ak333@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Martin Linsenbigler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, mlipsie@rdm09.std.com (Mike Lipsie MPU) says:
>In article <C54yFD.6LD@sunfish.usd.edu> pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff) writes:
>>
>>Your swap file is purged every time you exit windows. If you shut off your
>>computer without exiting windows your swap file remains. 20 Mb is on the large
>>side, are you running more applications than you really need to at the same time?
>
>This is, of course, not true. The *temporary* swap file is purged
>every time you exit windows. The permanent file is permanent and
>can only be changed by adjusting the virtual memory.
>
>I suspect that either the original poster was "tinkering" and
>adjusted the swap file to 20MB (and then forgot about it) or
>somebody "helped" him.
>
>--
>Mike Lipsie (work) mlipsie@ca.merl.com
>Mitsubishi Electronic Research Laboratory (home) mikel@dosbears.UUCP
>
When I first setup windows using the self load mode It grabbed about
20 megs of swap file space, my 120 meg HD was nearly empty at that time.
I deleted windows for a time and recently reloaded, now my HD is nearly full
and windows just took 4 megs.
I have read somewhere that the best rule of thumb is have your
permanent swap file the same size as your regular RAM size. I have 4 megs
of RAM and windows took 4 meg perm swap file. Works very well.
In fact with my available HD space, about 20 megs it won't let me make
the swap file any bigger.
You should change your virtual mem swap file to 8 megs I think
that is what you said your RAM was.
C-ya..... /\/\artin
--
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ak333@cleveland.freenet.edu mlinsenb@ccit.arizona.edu mlinsenb@arizvms
DEATH HAS BEEN DEAD FOR ABOUT 2,000 YEARS ****** FOLLOW THE KING OF KINGS
|
8681 | From: mhsu@lonestar.utsa.edu (Melinda . Hsu )
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Lines: 26
>They believe the danger is real, but others may not.
>
>Does that mean that the first group are NECESSARILY arrogant in warning
>others of the danger? Does it mean that they are saying that their beliefs
>are correct, and all others are false?
>
>Some might indeed react to opposition with arrogance, and behave in an
>arrogant manner, but that is a personal idiocyncracy. It does not
>necessarily mean that they are all arrogant.
No the members of the first group are not necessarily
arrogant. But when I ask them if they are absolutely certain
that the volcano will erupt, I expect them to say so "No,
but I've chosen to believe some knowledgable people who have
determined that the volcano will erupt," rather than, "Yes, I am
absolutely certain." When it comes to religious discussions,
arrogance or at best naivete is reflected in the latter type of
statement.
| Louis J. Kim --- _ O PH:512-522-5556 |
| Southwest Research Institute --- ,/ |\/' FAX:512-522-3042 |
| Post Office Drawer 28510 ---- |__ lkim@swri.edu |
| San Antonio, TX 78228-0510 ---- __/ \ 76450.2231@compuserve.com |
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|
8682 | From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer)
Subject: Re: Capital Gains tax increase "loses" money
Distribution: na
Organization: ACME Products
Lines: 70
In article <C5J8wI.IGK@panix.com>, eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler) writes:
> In <1993Apr15.045651.6892@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@midway.uchicago.edu sez:
>>In article <1993Apr14.135227.8579@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) writes:
>>>
>>> No, I'm saying any long term investor (the ones likely to have large
>>>capital gains) would be foolish to sell in order to avoid a tax hike that a)
>>>might disappear in any given year and b) be overcome in a year or two by
>>>accumlated gains.
>>
>>To which my response is--so what? Not all people who pay capital gains
>>taxes are long term investors. More than enough of them aren't for there
>>to be huge blip whenever capital gains taxes get raised.
>> I never said that *everyone* would find this advantageous. I said that
>>more than enough would for the result to be readily noticeable and distort
>>"trends".
>
> Even if Brett's eventual-return figures were correct -- and they
> clearly weren't -- he'd still be wrong about the cause for the '86
> blip because he fails to consider 2 basic factors:
You misunderstand. I'm not trying to prove a *cause* for anything.
Merely pointing out that Ted's assertion that the "blip" in revenues was
"caused" by selling to avoid the tax can't be proven.
> 1) As Ted notes, not everyone is a long-term investor. One might find
> oneself, as I did in late 1986, anticipating expenses in the near term
> that require selling off holdings. Given the choice between waiting a
> few weeks (and taking an extra tax hit) or selling in December with
> preferential tax treatment, only a fool would choose the former.
Not disputed.
> 2) The fact that Brett can now construct _post hoc_ calculations of
> what would have been more beneficial to investors is in many respects
> beside the point. There was plenty of _Money_-style advice given to
> unsophisticated investors in late 1986 to "sell now and save on
> taxes." In case anyone missed it, there was no shortage of similar
> advice late last year (in the NYTimes, e.g.), even though that advice
> was based not on the foregone conclusion of enacted law (as in 1986),
> but merely on the *assumption* that Clinton would raise tax rates
> (without capping CG taxes, contrary to the current proposal).
It works for any situation. If you believe the market is going up,
don't sell.
If believe it's not, sell. But then you'd be selling anyways, wouldn't
you?
So where is the evidence that a large number of people suddenly decided
that the higher taxes meant they should sell before the year was out?
There isn't any.
Ted's saying that the increase over the previous year is "proof" of
that proposition, but I'm saying you can't know that the trend of increasing
capital gains revenues wouldn't account for a lot of that increase.
1986 was the height of the housing boom, remember. People were
"trading up" like mad.
> It's nice to think that investors always behave in their optimal
> economic interest. Like assuming weightless ropes and frictionless
> pulleys, though, this sort of thinking often fails to describe
> accurately what happens in the real world.
Indeed.
Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
|
8683 | From: kde@boi.hp.com (Keith Emmen)
Subject: Re: A Message for you Mr. President: How do you know what happened?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4
Lines: 23
tbrent@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Timothy J Brent) writes:
:
: Probably not. But then, I don't pack heavy weaponry with intent to use it.
: You don't really think he should have been allowed to keep that stuff do
: you? If so, tell me where you live so I can be sure to steer well clear.
I understand that they had the neccessary licenses and permits to own
automatic weapons.
: The public also has rights, and they should be placed above those of the
: individual. Go ahead, call me a commie, but you'd be singing a different
: tune if I exercised my right to rape your daughter. He broke the law, he
: was a threat to society, they did there job - simple.
I haven't seen any proof (or even evidence) that the BD's had broken the
law. If you have proof (or evidence), let's hear it. "The FBI said so" is
NOT evidence.
:
: I'll support them all (except no. 2)
I guess there will always be people who wish to be peasants. The politicians
prefer unarmed peasants
|
8684 | From: howp@skyfox
Subject: Thoughts on a 1982 Yamaha Seca Turbo?
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca
I was wondering if anybody knows anything about a Yamaha Seca Turbo. I'm
considering buying a used 1982 Seca Turbo for $1300 Canadian (~$1000 US)
with 30,000 km on the odo. This will be my first bike. Any comments?
Thanks.
Peter How
Institute of Space and Atmospheric Studies
University of Saskatchewan,
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
CANADA
(306) 966-6452
IN::how@skisas.usask.ca
**********************************************************************
* 1983 clapped-out Ford Truck *
**********************************************************************
|
8685 | Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Subject: Re: What if the USSR had reached the Moon first?
<dxb105.734155421@aries> <1993Apr7.124724.22534@yang.earlham.edu>
<dxb105.734495289@virgo> <1993Apr12.161742.22647@yang.earlham.edu>
<93107.144339SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <1993Apr18.091051.14496@ke4zv.uucp>
Lines: 38
In article <1993Apr18.091051.14496@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
says:
>In article <93107.144339SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon
><SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>This is turning into 'what's a moonbase good for', and I ought
>>not to post when I've a hundred some odd posts to go, but I would
>>think that the real reason to have a moon base is economic.
>>Since someone with space industry will presumeably have a much
>>larger GNP than they would _without_ space industry, eventually,
>>they will simply be able to afford more stuff.
>
>If I read you right, you're saying in essence that, with a larger
>economy, nations will have more discretionary funds to *waste*
>on a lunar facility. That was certainly partially the case with Apollo,
>but real Lunar colonies will probably require a continuing military,
>scientific, or commercial reason for being rather than just a "we have
>the money, why not?" approach.
I was assuming that there won't be a moon base unless it makes a
profit, actually. If it does, well, that gives a larger GNP which
leads to being able to spend more money on your military, including
gosh-wow space stuff. (assuming it's profitable, rather than paying
for itself.)
>
>It's conceivable that Luna will have a military purpose, it's possible
>that Luna will have a commercial purpose, but it's most likely that
>Luna will only have a scientific purpose for the next several hundred
>years at least. Therefore, Lunar bases should be predicated on funding
>levels little different from those found for Antarctic bases. Can you
>put a 200 person base on the Moon for $30 million a year? Even if you
>use grad students?
You might be able to _run_ one for that; put it there, hardly.
Why do you think at least a couple centuries before there will
be significant commerical activity on the Moon?
Graydon
|
8686 | From: jgk@osc.COM (Joe Keane)
Subject: Re: Hard drive security for FBI targets
Summary: Encrypted data looks random.
Keywords: entropy
Reply-To: Joe Keane <jgk@osc.com>
Organization: Versant Object Technology
Lines: 47
Weather: mostly cloudy, high 64, low 49
Moon-Phase: waxing gibbous (99% of full)
In article <1993Apr2.050451.7866@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> cuffell@spot.Colorado.EDU
(Tim Cuffel) writes:
>How about this. I create a bunch of sets of random data, and encrypt it. I
>keep only one of the sets of random data around, to show that I encypt random
>data for kicks. The rest, I delete with their keys. I tell all my friends.
>I think this establishes reasonable doubt about the contents of any encrypted
>files, and my ability to provides keys. Since anyone could do this, any law
>that forces a user to provide keys on demand is worthless.
The law is much worse than worthless. It gives police the power to put
innocent people in jail because they (the police) find something they don't
understand. Most police don't know what the return key does, never mind the
difference between a core file and classified military secrets.
There are plenty of scenarios where the user would have no idea what something
is either. It could be uninitialized junk. The burden of proof is on the
user to show that it's something a normal upstanding citizen should have. No
one should ever be put in that situation, especially in America.
What's disgusting about this is how easily most people go along with it, to
provide a bargaining chip against some hypothetical *alleged* child molester
or drug dealer, or whatever bad thing is in style at the time. Basically most
people don't have a clear distinction between criminals and suspects.
As an analogy, it's like they find a loose screw in your house, and they
insist that you're building a bomb or machine gun. They ask you where it came
from (like you'd know), and ask you to prove your claim. When you explain it
in such simple terms, people may start to get the idea.
As a matter of fact, i do keep random files on my disk. The reason is,
without special-purpose hardware, it takes a long time to generate good random
bits. I have programs that crank out a couple bits per minute, which is
pretty conservative, but over time that's more than i need.
If you think about it, there's no point in actually encrypting random data,
because it just gives you different random data. If you want some data to
look like an encrypted file, you just put an appropriate header on it. If
enough people do this, some of them will be put in jail.
When you get arrested and the police ask for your keys, you can tell them it's
just random junk, although of course they won't believe you. While you're
sitting in jail, you can take consolation in the fact that the government will
burn a few CPU-years trying to find something that's not there.
--
Joe Keane, amateur cryptologist
jgk@osc.com (uunet!amdcad!osc!jgk)
|
8687 | From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Another question about synthetic engi
Nntp-Posting-Host: corolla18
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Lines: 26
In article <1993Apr2.043642.5682@spectrum.xerox.com> cooley@xerox.com writes:
|In article 17418@news.arc.nasa.gov, howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland) writes:
|>Castrol Syntec does not contain teflon, it gets its greater
|>lubrication by bonding to the metal surfaces of the engine,
|>thus making the metal ride on the polymer rather
|>than having metal-to-metal contact. I do not know if this
|>also reduces the acid contact with the metal, but it seems
|>likely.
|
|Just becase something forms a resin does not mean that
|it's not teflon based. The PTFE in slick-50 is not teflon
|either, but it's still teflon based.
"Teflon" is a DuPont-owned tradename for PTFE. Slick-50 does
indeed use DuPont Teflon, though some other brands of such
stuff may use imported PTFE of another brand.
"Teflon", being a trade-name, should always by capitalized.
(DuPont disclaims any benefits of PTFE in the oil supply of internal
combustion engines, BTW.)
Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com) | "We're bad-t-the-bone!
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!) | Bad-t-the-bone!"
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!) | -- Universally feared
AMA 583905 DoD #0330 COG 939 (Chicago) | Denizen warcry.
|
8688 | From: hurh@fnal.fnal.gov (Patrick Hurh)
Subject: Cache Card and Optimum Memory Settings?
Organization: fnal
Lines: 25
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phurh.fnal.gov
Here's a question that may be simple enough to answer, but has stumped
myself and a few others:
What does an external RAM cache card do for you if you already have a large
cache set (through control panel) in your SIMMs?
EX: I have a Mac IIci with 20 meg RAM, an external video card (so I don't
rob my SIMM's), and the default Apple cache card (I believe this is 32K?).
Say I have my cache set at 2 MEG, what good does a measly 32K do me on the
cache card? Could it actually slow things down by dividing the cache
between the card and the SIMM's? Or does it still speed things up by
providing a 'secondary staging' area for data normally passed directly into
the SIMM RAM cache?
I'm confused because it seems like cache cards are so low in memory to
really do any good compared to what you can set yourself. Yet, Daystar
FastCache has numbers which show around a 30% performance boost on some
operations. Are the chips on the cache card simply faster than most SIMM
accesses?
Please help, I'm trying to find the optimum memory settings for the IIci
system described in the EX above.
--patrick
hurh@fnal.fnal.gov
|
8689 | From: jbrown@vax.cns.muskingum.edu
Subject: Blackhawks win!!!
Organization: Muskingum College
Lines: 10
The Hawks win!! Jermey Roenick scored his 50 th goal and the Hawks put the
Leafs in their place, the losers column. If the Leafs can not even beat the
Hawks in a match that had little or no meaning I will hate to see them against
the Wings.
Oh btw I laugh at rm, that jerky!!!
GO HAWKS!!!
JB
|
8690 | From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: Sweden-Finland, April 14
In-Reply-To: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se's message of Thu, 15 Apr 1993 06:32:53 GMT
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
Lines: 36
In <1993Apr15.063253.17375@ericsson.se> etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se writes:
>
> Played in Stockholm Globe arena, April 14 1993:
> ===============================================
>
> SWEDEN - FINLAND 4-3 (2-0,0-2,2-1)
>
> 1st: SWE 1-0 Jan Larsson (Stefan Nilsson,Patrik Juhlin) 3:15
> SWE 2-0 Peter Popovic (Mikael Renberg,Thomas Rundqvist) 16:20
> 2nd: FIN 2-1 Mika Nieminen (Ville Siren,Mikko Haapakoski) 0:40
> FIN 2-2 Timo Saarikoski (Vesa Viitakoski,Harri Laurila) 17:48 (sh)
> 3rd: SWE 3-2 Fredrik Stillman (Stefan Nilsson,Patrik Juhlin) 7:35 (pp)
> SWE 4-2 Mikael Renberg 8:40
> FIN 4-3 Saku Koivu (Mika Alatalo) 13:17
>
> Shots on goal: Penalties: Attendance: Referee:
> Sweden 14 12 15 - 41 4*2min 12,470 Borje Johansson
> Finland 12 9 9 - 30 9*2min (Sweden)
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well, if things were different and I had my way, the headline would be: "NHL,
European Division regular season game: Stockholm Storm vs. Helsinki Tornado
4-3..." Two games against every North American-based team (46 in all), and this
might have been the ninth and final regular season encounter between Helsinki
and Stockholm. The remaining 27 games would involve Paris, Dortmund, Milan...
A nice dream.
MARCU$
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> ((\\ //| Staffan Axelsson
> \\ //|| etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se
> \\_))//-|| r.s.h. contact for Swedish hockey
|
8691 | From: isifisher@aol.com
Subject: FAX VIA E-MAIL
Article-I.D.: aol.9304060119.tn29392
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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8692 | From: kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey)
Subject: Re: DAVE KINGMAN FOR THE HALL OF FAME
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
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In article <1993Apr16.011653.7403@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>
>As for Ryan, is his W-L better than Morris'? That's what a lot of voters
>tend to look at. And Morris *was* awfully good for a decade, and doesn't
>lead MLB history in walks allowed, either.
Despite walks and loses, Ryan deserves to be in the Hall of Fame (IMHO)
based only on his ho-hitters. The strike-out records are an extra.
What do people think about Andre "400 HR" Dawson for the HOF?
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8693 | From: dla@se05.wg2.waii.com (Doug Acker)
Subject: xterm build problem in Solaris2.1
Reply-To: acker@se01.wg2.waii.com
Organization: Western Geophysical Exploration Products
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..continuing on my build problems, I got stuck here build xterm...
gcc -fpcc-struct-return -o xterm main.o input.o charproc.o cursor.o util.o tabs.o screen.o scrollbar.o button.o Tekproc.o misc.o VTPrsTbl.o TekPrsTbl.o data.o menu.o -O2 -R/usr/wgep/X11R5.sos5/lib${LD_RUN_PATH+\:$LD_RUN_PATH} -L../.././lib/Xaw -lXaw -L../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu -L../.././lib/Xt -lXt -L../.././extensions/lib -lXext -L../.././lib/X -lX11 -L/usr/wgep/X11R5.sos5/lib -lsocket -lnsl -ltermcap
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
index /usr/ucblib/libtermcap.a(termcap.o)
rindex /usr/ucblib/libtermcap.a(termcap.o)
ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xterm
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `xterm'
Any clues for help?
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8694 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Space Research Spin Off
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
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In article <C50zxA.1K9@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>In article <1ppm7j$ip@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
|>I thought the area rule was pioneered by Boeing.
|>NASA guys developed the rule, but no-one knew if it worked
|>until Boeing built the hardware 727 and maybe the FB-111?????
|
|Nope. The decisive triumph of the area rule was when Convair's YF-102 --
|contractually commmitted to being a Mach 1.5 fighter and actually found
|to be incapable of going supersonic in level flight -- was turned into
|the area-ruled YF-102A which met the specs. This was well before either
|the 727 or the FB-111; the 102 flew in late 1953, and Convair spent most
|of the first half of 1954 figuring out what went wrong and most of the
|second half building the first 102A.
|--
|All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
| - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
Good thing i stuck in a couple of question marks up there.
I seem to recall, somebody built or at least proposed a wasp waisetd
Passenger civil transport. I thought it was a 727, but maybe it
was a DC- 8,9??? Sure it had a funny passenger compartment,
but on the other hand it seemed to save fuel.
I thought Area rules applied even before transonic speeds, just
not as badly.
pat
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8695 | From: yoony@aix.rpi.edu (Young-Hoon Yoon)
Subject: Re: Gun Talk -- Legislative Update for States
Keywords: gun talk, ila
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viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>lvc@cbnews.cb.att.com (Larry Cipriani) writes:
>>IOWA: All firearm related bills are dead. Senate File 303
>>dealing with off-duty police officers carrying concealed remains
>>viable.
> The *POWER* of the word processor and a stamp at work.
>The fact that around here the state rep generally lives no more than
>nine miles from any constituent doesn't hurt, either.
>< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
>< ISU only censors what I read, not what I say. Don't blame them. >
>< USENET: Post to exotic, distant machines. Meet exciting, >
>< unusual people. And flame them. >
Does anyone know the particulars on the Senate File 303?
Does this bill allow or deny off-duty police from carrying concealed?
From what information that I have, Iowa has a discretionary permit policy
on CCW. If S 303 allows police(off-duty) to carry concealed then I would
be inclined to oppose it. I don't believe off-duty police officers should
have any more rights than civilians. If law or policy prevents law-abiding
citizens from being armed for self defense then why should off-duty police
officer be treated any differently.
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8696 | From: choo@ecs.umass.edu
Subject: TechWorks -- What You Say?
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Greetings!!
I'm planning to upgrade my Mac IIsi:
(1) from the present 5Megs to 17Megs;
and (2) add a Math-Coprocessor.
Technology Works, of Austin (Texas) comes quite highly recommended by
some Mac magazines. I was just wonderring if anyone could share with me
anything about Tech Works (both good and bad experiences); or give any advice
about other mail-order companies that I may consider.
Your reply would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Sincerely
Peter Choo
choo@sigma.ecs.umass.edu
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8697 | From: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Lipman)
Subject: CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS: Navy SciViz/VR Seminar
Article-I.D.: oasys.32850
Expires: 30 Apr 93 04:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Lipman)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
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CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS
NAVY SCIENTIFIC VISUALIZATION AND VIRTUAL REALITY SEMINAR
Tuesday, June 22, 1993
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
(formerly the David Taylor Research Center)
Bethesda, Maryland
SPONSOR: NESS (Navy Engineering Software System) is sponsoring a
one-day Navy Scientific Visualization and Virtual Reality Seminar.
The purpose of the seminar is to present and exchange information for
Navy-related scientific visualization and virtual reality programs,
research, developments, and applications.
PRESENTATIONS: Presentations are solicited on all aspects of
Navy-related scientific visualization and virtual reality. All
current work, works-in-progress, and proposed work by Navy
organizations will be considered. Four types of presentations are
available.
1. Regular presentation: 20-30 minutes in length
2. Short presentation: 10 minutes in length
3. Video presentation: a stand-alone videotape (author need not
attend the seminar)
4. Scientific visualization or virtual reality demonstration (BYOH)
Accepted presentations will not be published in any proceedings,
however, viewgraphs and other materials will be reproduced for
seminar attendees.
ABSTRACTS: Authors should submit a one page abstract and/or videotape to:
Robert Lipman
Naval Surface Warfare Center, Carderock Division
Code 2042
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000
VOICE (301) 227-3618; FAX (301) 227-5753
E-MAIL lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Authors should include the type of presentation, their affiliations,
addresses, telephone and FAX numbers, and addresses. Multi-author
papers should designate one point of contact.
DEADLINES: The abstact submission deadline is April 30, 1993.
Notification of acceptance will be sent by May 14, 1993.
Materials for reproduction must be received by June 1, 1993.
For further information, contact Robert Lipman at the above address.
PLEASE DISTRIBUTE AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE, THANKS.
Robert Lipman | Internet: lipman@oasys.dt.navy.mil
David Taylor Model Basin - CDNSWC | or: lip@ocean.dt.navy.mil
Computational Signatures and | Voicenet: (301) 227-3618
Structures Group, Code 2042 | Factsnet: (301) 227-5753
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000 | Phishnet: stockings@long.legs
The sixth sick shiek's sixth sheep's sick.
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8698 | From: ani@ms.uky.edu (Aniruddha B. Deglurkar)
Subject: help: Splitting a trimming region along a mesh
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
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Hi,
I have a problem, I hope some of the 'gurus' can help me solve.
Background of the problem:
I have a rectangular mesh in the uv domain, i.e the mesh is a
mapping of a 3d Bezier patch into 2d. The area in this domain
which is inside a trimming loop had to be rendered. The trimming
loop is a set of 2d Bezier curve segments.
For the sake of notation: the mesh is made up of cells.
My problem is this :
The trimming area has to be split up into individual smaller
cells bounded by the trimming curve segments. If a cell
is wholly inside the area...then it is output as a whole ,
else it is trivially rejected.
Does any body know how thiss can be done, or is there any algo.
somewhere for doing this.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ani.
--
To get irritated is human, to stay cool, divine.
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8699 | From: afielden@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (andrew.j.fielden)
Subject: X benchmarks
Keywords: benchmark
Organization: AT&T
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We are in the process of evaluating X-terminals. This includes running XRemote
over a serial line.
I would like to run some X benchmarks to determine comparative performance.
Has anyone written any such benchmarks, or know of any useful programs on the
net ? I heard of a program called "Xstone", but I couldn't locate it using
archie.
Please reply to afielden@mlsma.att.com, as I don't get to read this newsgroup
much.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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