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9400 | Subject: Re: Request for Support
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b64635.student.cwru.edu
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In article <1993Apr5.095148.5730@sei.cmu.edu> dpw@sei.cmu.edu (David Wood) writes:
>2. If you must respond to one of his articles, include within it
>something similar to the following:
>
> "Please answer the questions posed to you in the Charley Challenges."
Agreed.
--
"Satan and the Angels do not have freewill.
They do what god tells them to do. "
S.N. Mozumder (snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu)
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9401 | From: kriss@frec.bull.fr (Christian Mollard)
Subject: Re: Looking For David E. Smyth
Reply-To: Christian.Mollard@ec.bull.fr
Organization: Bull S.A. Echirolles
Lines: 23
In article <1993Apr9.144859.10535@nynexst.com>, zvi@nynexst.com (Zvi Guter) writes:
The author of Wcl (or the current care taker). His is the only name I found
in the dist tree. I have tried to mail him at: David.Smyth@ap.mchp.sni.de,
but the mail bounced back.
Any help in finding him will be greatly appreciated.
Try
david@ap542.uucp
david%ap542@ztivax.siemens.com
Xtian.
/ / Name: Christian Mollard /
/ / __/ Email: C.Mollard@frec.bull.fr /
/ __/ / __/ __/ Phone: (33) 76 39 78 92 /
/ / / __ / __ / Bull: 229 78 92 /
__/ __/ __/ __/ _____/ _____/ Fax: (33) 76 39 76 00 /
/
Address: BULL S.A., B.P. 208, 38432 Echirolles Cedex, France /
____________________________________________________________________/
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9402 | From: R_Tim_Coslet@cup.portal.com
Subject: Re: What do Nuclear Site's Cooling Towers do?
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
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In article: <1qlg9o$d7q@sequoia.ccsd.uts.EDU.AU>
swalker@uts.EDU.AU (-s87271077-s.walker-man-50-) wrote:
>I really don't know where to post this question so I figured that
>this board would be most appropriate.
>I was wondering about those massive concrete cylinders that
>are ever present at nuclear poer sites. They look like cylinders
>that have been pinched in the middle. Does anybody know what the
>actual purpose of those things are?. I hear that they're called
>'Cooling Towers' but what the heck do they cool?
Except for their size, the cooling towers on nuclear power plants
are vertually identical in construction and operation to cooling
towers designed and built in the 1890's (a hundred years ago) for
coal fired power plants used for lighting and early electric railways.
Basicly, the cylindrical tower supports a rapid air draft when
its air is heated by hot water and/or steam circulating thru a network
of pipes that fill about the lower 1/3 of the tower. To assist cooling
and the draft, water misters are added that spray cold water over the
hot pipes. The cold water evaporates, removing the heat faster than
just air flow from the draft would and the resulting water vapor is
rapidly carried away by the draft. This produces the clouds frequently
seen rising out of these towers.
That slight pinch (maybe 2/3 of the way up the tower) is there because
it produces a very significant increase in the strength and rate of
the air draft produced, compared to a straight cylinder shape.
The towers are used to recondense the steam in the sealed steam
system of the power plant so that it can be recirculated back to the
boiler and used again. The wider the temperature difference across
the turbines used in the power plant the more effecient they are and
by recondensing the steam in the cooling towers before sending it
back to the boilers you maintain a very wide temperature difference
(sometimes as high as 1000 degrees or more from first stage "hot"
turbine to final stage "cold" turbine).
R. Tim Coslet
Usenet: R_Tim_Coslet@cup.portal.com
technology, n. domesticated natural phenomena
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9403 | From: Daniel.Prince@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Daniel Prince)
Subject: Acutane, Fibromyalgia Syndrome and CFS
Lines: 11
To: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
There is a person on the FIDO CFS echo who claims that he was
cured of CFS by taking accutane. He also claims that you are
using it in the treatment of Fibromyalgia Syndrome. Are you
using accutane in the treatment of Fibromyalgia Syndrome? Have
you used it for CFS? Have you gotten good results with it? Are
you aware of any double blind studies on the use of accutane in
these conditions? Thank you in advance for all replies.
... I think they should rename Waco TX to Wacko TX!
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9404 | From: arvind@acuson.com (Arvind Jain)
Subject: FOR SALE: Airline ticket for 48 States + Canada
Summary: Airline ticket for 48 States + Cananda
Keywords: sale ticket airline travel
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Distribution: misc
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FOR SALE:
Northwest Airline Fly-Write ticket for travel within the 48 states
and Canada from anywhere in the country.
2 One Way - $200 (each)
1 Round Trip - $350
This ticket has no restrictions, and is fully transferable. However,
travel has to be completed buy June 4.
email: arvind@acuson.com
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9405 | From: vic@fajita (V. Martinez 6463)
Subject: Re: Trouble compiling X11R5 on SunOS_4.1.3
Article-I.D.: ast.1993Apr6.165718.528
Organization: SAIC
Lines: 7
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
I was having the same problems compiling X11R5 on a IPC sunos 4.1.3.
If you compile with 'make -k World' it will not stop on the
ld errors. As was stated in another post the clients with the
errors still run correctly.
Victor Martinez
vic@fajita.saic.com
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9406 | From: andy@ice.stx.com (Andy Moore)
Subject: Q: How to avoid XOpenDisplay hang?
Keywords: Xlib
Reply-To: andy@ice.stx.com
Organization: Hughes STX, Lanham, MD
Lines: 13
I'm writing 'xwall', a simple X version of 'wall', and I want it to
put a message up on each of a default list of displays. The problem
is that XOpenDisplay hangs if one of the displays is currently
controlled by xdm (login screen). I've been through the manuals
and FAQ and don't see a simple way to see if a display is 'openable'
ahead of time, or to get XOpenDisplay to fail after a short period
of time. Any hints, suggestions, clues, or pointers to info? Thanks...
--
Andy Moore (andy@ice.stx.com)
_______________________________________________________________________________
"You could say I've lost faith in the politicians/
They all seem like game show hosts to me..." - Sting
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9407 | From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Subject: Re: Modified sense of taste in Cancer pt?
Organization: University of Northern Iowa
Lines: 16
In article <1993Apr21.134848.19017@peavax.mlo.dec.com>, lunger@helix.enet.dec.com (Dave Lunger) writes:
>
> What does a lack of taste of foods, or a sense of taste that seems "off"
> when eating foods in someone who has cancer mean? What are the possible
> causes of this? Why does it happen?
I can't answer most of your questions, but I've seen it happen in
family members who are being treated with radiation and/or chemotherapy.
Jory Graham published a cookbook many years ago (in cooperation with
the American Cancer Society, I think) called "Something has to taste
good" (as I recall).
The cookbook was just what we needed several times when favorite foods
suddenly became "yech".
Kay Klier Biology Dept UNI
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9408 | From: erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: harry and candy
Article-I.D.: netcom.ericsC52qLD.6L2
Distribution: world,local
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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f67709907@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes:
>> i'm watching a cubs-rockies spring training game, and i thought you'd
>> all like to know the particular way that harry caray butchers "maldonado".
>> it seems to be "mal-n-dal-nado".
>But I like the way he butchers Andres Galarraga's name.
>It comes out like "gahlah rrrraggggah".
>And don't forget his frequent references to the great SF Giant star
>Bobby Bonds!
What about Thaaammy Thotha? I for one was really sorry to hear that the
Cubs had sent Heathcliff Slocumb to the minors! :-)
-----
Eric Smith
erics@netcom.com
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610
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9409 | From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
Subject: Re: Temper tantrums from the 1960's
Organization: Generally in favor of, but mostly random.
Distribution: usa
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In article <1993Apr17.013559.17391@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM writes:
>>I see you are a total ignorant asshole as well.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It's the sign of a small mind to use filthy
>language when he can't articulate his point.
Oh, no, not in this case. I've noticed that you conveniently edited out your
stupid comment that the PRC stands for Cambodia. When we're arguing the
Vietnam war and about Cambodia, and you toss in a boner like that (along
with your other boners), you are an ignorant asshole.
Oh, and even the Vietnamese agree that they did far more damage to
Cambodia than we ever did.
--
There are actually people that STILL believe Love Canal was some kind of
environmental disaster. Weird, eh?
These opinions are MINE, and you can't have 'em! (But I'll rent 'em cheap ...)
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9410 | From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Murray as GM (was: Wings will win
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 18
In article <20APR199312512640@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Morris ) writes:
>
>Gerald, Murray wasn't responsible for Primeau (although I'm not
>ready to admit that's a horrible pick). They hired him after the
>draft (which has never made sense to me). His first pick was
>Lapointe.
>
I don't think Primeau is necessarily a bad pick...I'm was just trying
to locate the beginning of Murray's decisions...he slowness in trading
Carson has delayed Primeau's development...and you have to wait longer
for big players often...and Primeau can be a very good player without
being a point-a-game-player, especially on a team that has Yzerman and
Fedorov...if Primeau becomes Joel Otto, and gets 20 goals a season,
and plays mean...it will have been an extremely good pick.
Gerald
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9411 | From: iacs3650@Oswego.EDU (Kevin Mundstock)
Subject: Joe Robbie Stadium "NOT FOR BASEBALL"
Reply-To: iacs3650@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Kevin Mundstock)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY
Lines: 16
Did anyone notice the words "NOT FOR BASEBALL" printed on the picture
of Joe Robbie Stadium in the Opening Day season preview section in USA
Today? Any reason given for this?
Also, I just noticed something looking at the Nolan Ryan timeline in
the preview. On 8/22/89, Rickey Henderson became Nolan's 5000th strikeout.
On 6/11/90 he pitched his 6th no-hitter against Oakland. I believe the
last out in the game was made by Rickey Henderson. And on 5/1/91, Nolan
pitched his 7th no-hitter on the same day a certain someone stole his
939th base, which overshadowed it. It seems that Nolan is having a lot of
publicity at Rickey's expense. IMO, Rickey deserves it, and it seems as
most of the net agrees with me from what I've seen on it lately. They are
both great players, but IMO, Nolan has outclassed Rickey, both in playing
and more importantly, in attitude. Just my thoughts.
Kevin
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9412 | From: willis@oracle.SCG.HAC.COM (Stan Willis)
Subject: Kings regular season schedule/results
Reply-To: willis@empire.dnet.hac.com (Stan Willis)
Organization: none
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1992-93 Los Angeles Kings Schedule/Results
TV:
---
2 preseason games, 82 of 84 regular season and all playoffs on TV.
(PT)= Prime Ticket, (5) = KTLA Channel 5, (7) = ABC Channel 7 - playoffs
Radio:
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All regular and preseason games broadcast on the Kings radio network.
Southern California XTRA - 690am (flagship)
Simi Valley KWNK - 670am
Ankorage, Alaska KBYR - 700am
El Centro KAMP - 1430am
Fairbanks, Alaska KIAK - 970am
Hemet/Temecula KHSJ - 1320am
Lancaster/Palmdale KAVL - 610am
Palm Desert KNWZ - 1270am
Paso Robles KPRL - 1230am
Reno, Nevada KPLY - 1270am
Sacramento KSAC - 1240am
San Luis Obispo KKAL - 1280am
Santa Clarita KBET - 1220am
Las Vegas, Nevada KENO - 1460am
Preseason:
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September/October:
18 LA 3 vs VAN 3 @ Vancouver - 12,357 (0-0-1, 1 pt)
20 LA 5 vs PIT 2 @ Portland - 6,124 (1-0-1, 3 pts) (PT)
23 LA 3 vs PIT 3 @ Tacoma - ? (1-0-2, 4 pts)
24 LA 2 vs NYR 7 @ San Diego - 8,099 (1-1-2, 4 pts) (PT)
26 LA 2 vs NYR 6 @ Phoenix - 8,977 (1-2-2, 4 pts)
27 LA 4 vs SJ 2 @ Sacramento - 7,950 (2-2-2, 6 pts)
30 LA 2 vs VAN 5 @ The Forum - 10,250 (2-3-2, 6 pts)
03 LA 8 vs SJ 8 @ The Forum - 12,005 (3-3-2, 8 pts)
-- --
Total 29 36
Regular Season:
---------------
October:
06 LA 5 @ Calgary 4 (OT) - 19,461 ( 1- 0- 0, 2 pts) (PT)
08 LA 3 vs Detroit 5 - 16,005 ( 1- 1- 0, 2 pts) (PT)
10 LA 6 vs Winnipeg 3 - 14,509 ( 2- 1- 0, 4 pts) (PT)
13 LA 2 vs San Jose 1 - 14,320 ( 3- 1- 0, 6 pts) (PT)
15 LA 4 vs Calgary 0 - 15,133 ( 4- 1- 0, 8 pts) (PT)
17 LA 8 vs Boston 6 - 16,005 ( 5- 1- 0, 10 pts) (PT)
20 LA 2 @ Calgary 6 - 19,169 ( 5- 2- 0, 10 pts) (5)
23 LA 2 @ Winnipeg 4 - 12,924 ( 5- 3- 0, 10 pts) (PT)
24 LA 5 @ Minnesota 5 - 15,174 ( 5- 3- 1, 11 pts) (5)
27 LA 4 @ NY Islanders 3 - 10,259 ( 6- 3- 1, 13 pts) (PT)
29 LA 3 @ Boston 8 - 14,448 ( 6- 4- 1, 13 pts) (PT)
31 LA 7 @ Hartford 1 - 9,244 ( 7- 4- 1, 15 pts) (5)
-- -- -----------------
Oct. 51 46 7- 4- 1, 15 pts
November:
05 LA 5 vs New Jersey 2 - 14,592 ( 8- 4- 1, 17 pts) (PT)
07 LA 5 vs Buffalo 2 - 16,005 ( 9- 4- 1, 19 pts) (PT)
08 LA 11 @ San Jose 4 - 11,089 (10- 4- 1, 21 pts) (no tv)
10 LA 4 @ Winnipeg 4 - 12,831 (10- 4- 2, 22 pts) (PT)
12 LA 7 vs Vancouver 4 - 15,486 (11- 4- 2, 24 pts) (PT)
14 LA 6 vs Edmonton 2 - 16,005 (12- 4- 2, 26 pts) (PT)
16 LA 3 @ Vancouver 6 - 15,896 (12- 5- 2, 26 pts) (PT)
17 LA 0 @ San Jose 6 - 11,089 (12- 6- 2, 26 pts) (PT)
19 LA 4 vs Chicago 1 - 16,005 (13- 6- 2, 28 pts) (PT)
21 LA 6 vs Toronto 4 - 16,005 (14- 6- 2, 30 pts) (PT)
25 LA 3 @ Edmonton 1 - 13,636 (15- 6- 2, 32 pts) (no tv)
27 LA 5 @ Detroit 3 - 19,875 (16- 6- 2, 34 pts) (PT)
28 LA 2 @ Toronto 3 - 15,720 (16- 7- 2, 34 pts) (PT)
-- -- -----------------
Nov. 61 42 9- 3- 1, 19 pts
Year 112 88
December:
01 LA 6 @ Chicago 3 - 16,292 (17- 7- 2, 36 pts) at Milwaukee (PT)
03 LA 5 vs Pittsburgh 3 - 16,005 (18- 7- 2, 38 pts) (PT)
05 LA 7 vs Hartford 3 - 16,005 (19- 7- 2, 40 pts) (PT)
08 LA 5 vs Montreal 5 - 12,276 (19- 7- 3, 41 pts) at Phoenix (PT)
10 LA 4 vs Quebec 5 - 15,221 (19- 8- 3, 41 pts) (PT)
12 LA 6 vs St Louis 3 - 16,005 (20- 8- 3, 43 pts) (PT)
15 LA 2 vs Tampa Bay 3 - 15,753 (20- 9- 3, 43 pts) (PT)
18 LA 5 @ Edmonton 5 - 15,257 (20- 9- 4, 44 pts) (5)
19 LA 3 @ Calgary 5 - 20,214 (20-10- 4, 44 pts) (PT)
22 LA 2 vs Vancouver 6 - 16,005 (20-11- 4, 44 pts) (PT)
26 LA 2 @ San Jose 7 - 11,089 (20-12- 4, 44 pts) (5)
29 LA 2 vs Philadelphia 10 - 16,005 (20-13- 4, 44 pts) (PT)
31 LA 0 @ Vancouver 4 - 16,150 (20-14- 4, 44 pts) (PT)
-- -- -----------------
Dec. 49 62 4- 7- 2, 10 pts
Year 161 150
January:
02 LA 5 vs Montreal 5 - 16,005 (20-14- 5, 45 pts) (PT)
06 LA 3 vs Tampa Bay 6 - 16,005 (20-15- 5, 45 pts) (PT)
08 LA 3 @ Winnipeg 6 - 14,036 (20-16- 5, 45 pts) (5)
10 LA 5 @ Chicago 4 - 17,705 (21-16- 5, 47 pts) (5)
12 LA 3 @ Ottawa 2 - 10,500 (22-16- 5, 49 pts) (PT)
14 LA 1 @ New Jersey 7 - 13,586 (22-17- 5, 49 pts) (PT)
16 LA 2 vs Winnipeg 5 - 16,005 (22-18- 5, 49 pts) (PT)
19 LA 5 @ Edmonton 4 - 16,686 (23-18- 5, 51 pts) (PT)
21 LA 4 vs Vancouver 5 - 16,005 (23-19- 5, 51 pts) (PT)
23 LA 3 vs NY Rangers 8 - 16,005 (23-20- 5, 51 pts) (PT)
26 LA 7 vs San Jose 1 - 16,005 (24-20- 5, 53 pts) (PT)
28 LA 1 vs Calgary 2 - 16,005 (24-21- 5, 53 pts) (PT)
30 LA 2 vs Chicago 2 - 16,005 (24-21- 6, 54 pts) (PT)
-- -- -----------------
Jan. 44 57 4- 7- 2, 10 pts
Year 205 207
February:
02 LA 2 @ Quebec 3 - 14,843 (24-22- 6, 54 pts) (PT)
03 LA 2 @ Montreal 7 - 17,164 (24-23- 6, 54 pts) (PT)
09 LA 3 vs Edmonton 6 - 16,005 (24-24- 6, 54 pts) (PT)
11 LA 6 vs Detroit 6 - 16,005 (24-24- 7, 55 pts) (PT)
13 LA 3 vs Washington 10 - 16,005 (24-25- 7, 55 pts) (PT)
15 LA 3 vs Vancouver 0 - 16,005 (25-25- 7, 57 pts) (PT)
17 LA 10 @ Minnesota 5 - 14,911 (26-25- 7, 59 pts) (PT)
18 LA 2 @ Chicago 7 - 17,597 (26-26- 7, 59 pts) (PT)
20 LA 3 @ Washington 7 - 17,812 (26-27- 7, 59 pts) (PT)
22 LA 5 @ Tampa Bay 2 - 10,425 (27-27- 7, 61 pts) (PT)
25 LA 0 @ St Louis 3 - 13,473 (27-28- 7, 61 pts) (PT)
27 LA 2 vs Toronto 5 - 16,005 (27-29- 7, 61 pts) (PT)
-- -- -----------------
Feb. 41 61 3- 8- 1, 7 pts
Year 246 268
March:
02 LA 6 vs Calgary 2 - 16,005 (28-29- 7, 63 pts) (PT)
04 LA 8 vs Ottawa 6 - 16,005 (29-29- 7, 65 pts) (PT)
06 LA 6 vs Edmonton 1 - 16,005 (30-29- 7, 67 pts) (PT)
09 LA 3 @ NY Rangers 4 - 18,200 (30-30- 7, 67 pts) (PT)
11 LA 3 @ Pittsburgh 4 - 16,164 (30-31- 7, 67 pts) (PT)
13 @ Philadelphia - Postponed after 1 period (1-1) due to weather. Resch for 4/1
14 @ Buffalo - Postponed due to weather. Rescheduled for 3/15.
15 LA 4 @ Buffalo 2 - 13,799 (31-31- 7, 69 pts) (PT)
16 LA 8 vs Winnipeg 4 - 16,005 (32-31- 7, 71 pts) (PT)
18 LA 7 vs NY Islanders 4 - 16,005 (33-31- 7, 73 pts) (PT)
20 LA 3 vs St Louis 2 - 16,005 (34-31- 7, 75 pts) (PT)
24 LA 2 @ Vancouver 6 - 16,150 (34-32- 7, 75 pts) (5)
26 LA 4 @ Edmonton 1 - 17,503 (35-32- 7, 77 pts) (5)
28 LA 3 @ Winnipeg 3 - 15,566 (35-32- 8, 78 pts) (PT)
29 LA 9 @ Detroit 3 - 19,875 (36-32- 8, 80 pts) (5)
31 LA 5 @ Toronto 5 - 15,720 (36-32- 9, 81 pts) (PT)
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Mar. 71 47 9- 3- 2, 20 pts
Year 317 315
April:
01 LA 3 @ Philadelphia 1 - 17,380 (37-32- 9, 83 pts) (PT) rescheduled
03 LA 0 vs Minnesota 3 - 16,005 (37-33- 9, 83 pts) (PT)
06 LA 3 vs Calgary 3 - 16,005 (37-33-10, 84 pts) (PT)
08 LA 2 vs San Jose 1 - 16,005 (38-33-10, 86 pts) (PT)
10 LA 3 @ San Jose 2 (OT) - 11,089 (39-33-10, 88 pts) (PT)
13 LA 4 @ Vancouver 7 - 16,150 (39-34-10, 88 pts) (PT)
15 LA 6 vs Vancouver 8 - 16,005 (39-35-10, 88 pts) (PT)
-- -- -----------------
Apr. 21 25 3- 3- 1, 7 pts
Year 338 340 39-35-10, 88 pts - 3rd Smythe,
11th overall
Playoffs:
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April:
18 @ Calgary - 12:00 noon (7)
21 @ Calgary - 6:30 pm (PT)
23 vs Calgary - 7:30 pm (PT)
25 vs Calgary - 12:00 noon (7)**
*27 @ Calgary - 6:30 pm (PT)
*29 vs Calgary - 7:30 pm (PT)
May:
*01 @ Calgary - 6:30 pm (PT)
all times listed are Pacific Time.
*if necessary.
** may be shown on ABC, if televised by Prime Ticket, time is 7:30 pm.
===============================================================================
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net contact: L.A. Kings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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9413 | From: gwang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ge Wang)
Subject: Packages for Fashion Designers?
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Organization: The Ohio State University
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Hello, I am looking for commercial software packages for professional
fashion designers. Any recommendation and pointers are greatly appreciated.
Please e-mail me, if you may. Thanks a million. -- Ge
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9414 | From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: NO JOKE: ROCKIES HAVE ATTENDANCE RECORD!!!!
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
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Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g215a-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
In article <1993Apr2.184338.18205@dvorak.amd.com> twhite@mozart.amd.com (Tom
White) writes:
> The highest single-game attendance was Game 5 of the 1959 World Series,
> October 6, at the LA Coliseum. White Sox over Dodgers, 1-0.
>
> Gate? Officially 92,706.
>
> Largest regular-season game? 78,672, again in LA, for the first
> game in the City of Angels -- Opening Day, April 18, 1958 (home opener,
> anyway).
>
> The Rockies might really nail the record.
>
> The record attendance for a doubleheader is larger, but since dh's are
> all but nonexistent nowadays, why bother listing it...
Wasn't there an 85,000 New York at Cleveland game in the late 40's?
jhon rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
prediction for 1993: Marlins: 70 wins, Rockies: 50 wins
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9415 | From: rcg1597@zeus.tamu.edu (GUYNN, RICHARD CARL)
Subject: Re: MGBs and the real world
Article-I.D.: zeus.5APR199321160020
Distribution: world
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <1993Apr5.181056.29411@mks.com>, mike@mks.com (Mike Brookbank) writes...
>My sister has an MGB. She has one from the last year they were produced
>(1978? 1979?). Its in very good shape. I've been bugging her for years
Last year produced: 1980.
>about selling it. I've said over and over that she should sell it
>before the car is worthless while she maintains that the car may
>actually be increasing in value as a result of its limited availability.
>
>Which one of us is right? Are there MGB affectionados out there who are
>still willing to pay $6K to 8K for an old MG? Are there a lot out in the
>market?
>--
Yes, there are still alot of MGBs out there. The earlier cars (pre
74-1/2) are usually more desirable due to certain things that went with having
chrome bumpers (ride height, generally more power). The older cars are
appreciating... slowly. The newer ones seem to be at a stable level at the
moment. $6 to $8k would require extremely good condition and low miles.
If the car is in good shape and regular maintenance is kept up on it, the car
should last for a long time. There are still plenty of parts sources ouththere.
The MGB is a great, fun little car. If she is keeping it solely in the hopes
that it is going to appreciate, tell her to sell it. It is not worth waiting
the time it would take to appreciate to a real profitable level.
***************************************************************************
*Rick Guynn -MG driver soontobe. * MGA 1600 MkII *
*RCG1597@zeus.tamu.edu * Rebuild (complete) to be finished ?? *
*Texas A&M University * *
*Keeper of the eternal octagon * `69 MGB Roadster *
* a.k.a. The marque symbol that * I'll have it registered soon, *
* refuses to die. * honest! *
***************************************************************************
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9416 | From: neilson@seoul.mpr.ca (Robert Neilson)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
In-Reply-To: madman@austin.ibm.com's message of Thu, 15 Apr 1993 17:31:58 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: seoul
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
<1993Apr15.024246.8076@Virginia.EDU> <C5JCpA.1ptt@austin.ibm.com>
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> That is why low-abiding citizens should have the power to protect themselves
> and their property using deadly force if necessary anywhere a threat is
> imminent.
>
> Steve Heracleous
You do have the power Steve. You *can* do it. Why don't you? Why don't you
go shoot some kids who are tossing rocks onto cars? Make sure you do a good
job though - don't miss - 'cause like they have big rocks - and take it from
me - those kids are mean.
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9417 | From: muellerm@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Marc Mueller)
Subject: Re: ABOLISH SELECTIVE SERVICE
Nntp-Posting-Host: irl2
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
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In article <1993Apr16.131508.9518@ra.msstate.edu> fpa1@Trumpet.CC.MsState.Edu (Fletcher P Adams) writes:
>kmitchel@netcom.com (Kenneth C. Mitchell) writes:
>>Dave Borden (borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu) wrote:
>>: The Selective Service Registration should be abolished. To start with, the
>>: draft is immoral. Whether you agree with that or not, we don't have one now,
>>: and military experts agree that the quality of the armed forces is superior
>>: with a volunteer army than with draftees. Finally, the government has us
>>: on many lists in many computers (the IRS, Social Security Admistration and
>>: Motor Vehicle Registries to name a few) and it can find us if it needs to.
>>: Maintaining yet another list of people is an utter waste of money and time.
>>: Let's axe this whole department, and reduce the deficit a little bit.
>
>I'm really surprised Clinton hasn't already tried to do this. He seems
>to want to tackle other irrelevant issues first, so why not this one as well.
Considering that Clinton received a draft notice and got out of it (he admits it) the political feasibility of him abolishing it is not something he would
be inclined to risk any extra exposure on.
>
>>Let me say this about that, as a retired Navy officer;
>>
>>I agree. Cut it. But let's not stop there.
>>
>>Eliminate the C-17 transport.
>
>Wrong. We need its capability. Sure it has its problems, very few
>airplanes haven't, but getting rid of something we need is not the
>answer. What do you want to do, start over a rebuild a new airplane
>from scatch? It'll have its problems as well and there will be calls
>again, for it to be scrapped. THe other option is to try to extend
>the life of the C-5s and C-141s that are getting extremely old.
If you read Aviation Week, the C-5 line can be reopened and the C-5s
would be delivered a year earlier and cost a billion less for the
program. Politically, though, the C-17 is popular pork.
>
>>Scrap the Seawolf SSN-21 nuclear submarine.
>>Ground the B-2 stealth bomber.
>
>It'll cost jobs, but I'm for it. We especially don't need a B-2. THe
>SSN-21, I know litttle about.
>
Agreed. Congress took money from NASA and FHA to fund the second Seawolf.
The shipyards are still building Los Angeles Class submarines and there
is a lack of ASW foes to contend with. The Navy is considering reducing
the number of attack subs to 40 (Navy Times) and that would entail
getting rid of or mothballing some of the current Los Angeles class.
Politically, General Dynamics is in Connecticut and we will get
Seawolf subs whether we need them or not.
In addition, more bases need to be closed. Probably Long Beach Naval Station
and others. The Navy is talking about three main bases on each coast being
required to home port a total fleet of 320 ships.
The question is whether Les Aspin and Clinton will be able to face down
a pork happy Congress.
-- Marc Mueller
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9418 | From: rcollins@ns.encore.com (Roger Collins)
Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (Was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...)
Reply-To: rcollins@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
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In article <1993Apr15.164605.8439@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
|> In article <SLAGLE.93Apr15000157@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com> slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
|> >It is the government that is preventing entry to the market. The
|> >desire of those running established businesses to prevent or
|> >restrict the entry of competitors is an understandable, though
|> >generally unpleasant, human failing. But without a means to act
|> >on this desire, without a government with sufficient power to
|> >restrict the options of the potential competitor, the
|> >anti-competitive desire remains just an unpleasant wish. The
|> >government is the linchpin, so we seek to disengage it so we
|> >don't get the shaft.
|>
|> Once again, Mark, you don't specify the means through which the government
|> is to be prevented from becoming the tool of business interests. As a
|> left-wing, big government, conventional liberal, I'm just as willing as
|> you are to vote against anti-competitive regulations that favor auto
|> dealers.
|>
|> But what I hear from libertarians is a desire to limit incumbents' terms,
|> to weaken government by eliminating its power to enforce antitrust laws,
|> and a desire to eliminate legislator's pay. Each strikes me as a
|> particularly ineffective way to insure that auto dealers and other special
|> interests cannot influence public policy. In fact, they seem clearly
|> designed to accomplish the opposite.
This is similar to my saying that Clinton's timber summit does little to
fix the health care problem. Look at the whole picture, not just
randomly picked libertarian positions. If government is not allowed to
use "non-initiated force" to achieve its goals, than no special interest
can influence the government to use non-initiated force on their behalf.
The means to reaching such a restricted government is another topic
which I'll address briefly. It certainly won't happen until
libertarianism is the dominate philosophy. What means do we have to
make libertarianism the dominate philosophy? Statists run the education
monopoly, so we have to be creative. The Advocates for Self-Government
reports 85% of their Seminar 1 participants "embrace" libertarianism.
That's the best means I've seen yet. We should lobby for compulsory
Seminar 1 attendance. :) [in jest!]
Roger Collins
It's amazing to me that governments around the world will try every
aspect of government control before, as a final last resort after
everything else fails, they will try individual liberty.
-- Andre Marrou, Libertarian candidate for President '92
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9419 | From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Need Help with "They came for the Jews" quote
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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Years ago I grabbed the following from the net - maybe from this
newsgroup. Does anyone know of a source for whether this is an
accurate quote? Thanks! Bartletts leaves out the homosexual lines,
but they were one of the groups the Nazis tried to exterminate.
===
In Germany, they first came for the communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the homosexuals, and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a homosexual.
Then they came for the catholics, and I didn't speak up
because I was a protestant.
Then they came for me ---
but by that time there was no one left to speak up.
-- Pastor Martin Neimoller
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9420 | From: zed@Dartmouth.EDU (Ted Schuerzinger)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0b16@dartmouth.edu
Organization: WDCR/WFRD, Hanover, NH
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In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>
<34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
> I will be surprised if this post makes it past the censors,
> but here goes:
>
> Monday, 19 April, 1993 13:30 EDT
>
> MURDER MOST FOUL!!
>
> CNN is reporting as I write this that the ATF has ignited all
> the buildings of the Branch Dividian ranch near Waco, TX. The
> lies from ATF say "holes were made in the walls and 'non-lethal' tear
> gas pumped in". A few minutes after this started the whole thing went up.
> ALL buildings are aflame. NO ONE HAS ESCAPED. I think it obvious that
> the ATF used armored flame-thrower vehicles to pump in unlit
> napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
>
> THIS IS MURDER!
>
> ATF MURDERERS! BUTCHERS!!
>
> THIS IS GENOCIDAL MASS-SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN!
>
> I have predicted this from the start, but God, it sickens me to see
> it happen. I had hoped I was wrong. I had hoped that there was
> still some shred of the America I grew up with, and loved, left
> alive. I was wrong. The Nazis have won.
>
> I REPEAT, AS OF THIS TIME THERE ARE **NO SURVIVORS**!
>
> God help us all.
>
>
> PLEASE CROSSPOST -- DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THE SLAUGHTER OF THE CHILDREN!
>
>
> W. K. Gorman - an American in tears.
The latest news I saw was that two of the eight known survivors (not NO
SURVIVORS!!! as you so rudely put in all caps) said they started the
fire.
I won't go on with the things the wacko of Waco did.
--Ted Schuerzinger
zed@Dartmouth.EDU
This is not the secret message.
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9421 | From: ph@gmd.de (Peter Hendricks)
Subject: Re: Wanted: A to D hardware for a PC
To: ebuddington@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Nntp-Posting-Host: gmdzi
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
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In <3889@ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM> Brad Wright writes:
> If you know much about PC's (IBM comp) you might try the joystick
>port. Though I haven't tried this myself, I've been told that the port
>has built in A-D converters. This would allow the joystick to be a couple of
>pots. If you could find the specs this might just work for you...
I guess 100k, connecting pins 1-3 (1x), 1-6 (1y), 9-11 (2x), and 9-13 (2y).
Or: Get an 8-bit DA-Converter (merely a couple of transistors and
Resistors) and an OpAmp to compare its output to the voltage you want to
measure, connect them to a spared printer port (if you have one), and do
the rest by software (stepwise refinement). The port addresses for your
printer ports are probably: &H378 (LPT1), &H278 (LPT2). This should work
well enough for your purposes.
Hope this helps
--
GMD, Schloss Birlinghoven, Postfach 1316, D-5205 St. Augustin 1, FRG
e-mail: Peter.Hendricks@gmd.de ph@zi.gmd.dbp.de
ph@gmd.de
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9422 | From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: X on Intel-based Unix Frequently Asked Questions [FAQ]
Summary: X options for Intel-based Unix (SYSV/386, 386BSD, Linux, Mach)
Article-I.D.: ecf.C4rI7o.4Bw
Expires: Sat, 1 May 1993 04:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
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Archive-name: Intel-Unix-X-faq
Last-modified: 30 Mar 1993
Note: This is a major re-organization (and replacement) of my
"Frequently Asked Questions About X386" FAQ list.
This article includes answers to:
I) What options do I have for X software on my Intel-based Unix system?
1. Free options
2. Commercial options
II) What is XFree86 and where do I get it?
3. What is XFree86?
4. What OSs are supported?
5. What video hardware is supported?
6. What about accelerated boards?
7. Why doesn't XFree86 support 16-color VGA modes?
8. What other hardware or software requirements are there?
9. Where can I get source for XFree86?
10. Where can I get binaries for XFree86?
IV) What general things should I know about running XFree86?
11. Installation directories
12. Configuration files
13. Determining VGA dot clocks and monitor modes
14. Rebuilding/reconfiguring the server from the link kit
V) What OS-specific things should I know about running XFree86?
15. SVR4
16. SVR3
17. 386BSD
18. Linux
19. Mach
VI) What things should I know for building XFree86 from source?
VII) Is there anything special about building clients with XFree86?
20. BSD compatibility library
21. ANSICCOPTIONS
This article does NOT include answers to general X questions, since these
are already covered by the X FAQ that is regularly posted by David B. Lewis
<faq%craft@uunet.uu.net>.
If you have anything to add or change on the FAQ just let me know.
(especially if you had a problem that someone else was able to help you with)
Send changes to steve@ecf.toronto.edu, please put 'FAQ' somewhere
in the subject line so that my mail filter will put it in the correct
mail folder.
Please DO NOT ask me questions that are not answered in the FAQ. I do not
have time to respond to these individually. Instead, post your question
to the net, and send me the question and answer together when you get it.
Frequently Asked Questions About X on Intel-based Unix (with answers)
=====================================================================
I) What options do I have for X software on my Intel-based Unix system?
1. Free options
The BEST option is XFree86, which is an enhanced version of X386 1.2.
Any other version of X386 will have slower performance, and will
be more difficult to compile. Information on how to obtain XFree86
is listed below.
X386 is the port of the X11 server to System V/386 that was
done by Thomas Roell (roell@sgcs.com).
It supports a wide variety of SVGA boards.
There are 2 major free versions: X386 1.1 is based on X11R4,
X386 1.2 is included in MIT's X11R5 distribution (ie. you
don't need to patch it into the MIT source any more).
X386 1.3 is the current commercial offering from SGCS (see below).
2. Commercial options
1) Metro Link
2213 W. McNab Road
Pompano Beach, FL 33069
(305) 970-7353
Fax: (305) 970-7351
email: sales@metrolink.com
Summary: OS: QNX, SVR3, SVR4.[012], SCO, UnixWare, LynxOS,
DESQview/X, Venix, ISC, Solaris, Pyramid, SunOS
HW: EGA, VGA, SVGA, TIGA, TARGA, 8514/A, Mach,
S3, WD, Fujistu, Matrox, Microfield Graphics, R33020
Other: Motif, OpenLook/XView, XIE Imaging Extension,
Xv Video Extension, Audio Drivers, Multi Media
2) SGCS (Snitily Graphics Consulting Services)
894 Brookgrove Lane
Cupertino, CA 95014
(800) 645-5501, (408) 255-9665
Fax: (408) 255-9740
email: info@sgcs.com or ...!mips!zok!info
Summary: OS: SVR3.2, SVR4
HW: 8514/A (ATI Ultra), S3 (Diamond Stealth), SVGA
Other: Motif, Dual-headed server
3) Consensys Corporation
1301 Pat Booker Rd.
Universal City, TX 78148
Phone: 1-800-388-1896
FAX: 1-416-940-2903
email: info@consensys.com
Summary: OS: Consensys V4.2, Consensys' version of
Unix System V Release 4.2
HW: X11R4 server support for VGA, SVGA
Other: MoOLIT, Motif, X11R5 Clients
4) The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
p.o. box 1900
Santa Cruz, California 95061
(408) 425 7222, (800) SCO UNIX,
FAX: (408) 458 4227
email: info@sco.com
Summary: OS: ODT 1.1, ODT 2.0, SCO Unix 3.2v4
HW: X11R4 server support for SVGA, 8514/A, S3, TMS340x0,
WD90C31, XGA2, assorted local bus (see SCO Hardware
Compatabilty Guide for actual card vendors).
Other: Motif
5) Answer Software & Consulting
p.o. box 14171
Columbus, Ohio 43214
614-263-XLAB
email: sales@x4coher.com
Summary: OS: Coherent 4.0.1r72 or greater
HW: works with any VESA compliant video
NOTE: Other commercial vendors (including OS vendors describing
bundled software) are welcome to submit summary information
summary information such as the above.
II) What is XFree86 and where do I get it?
3. What is XFree86?
XFree86 is an enhanced version of X386 1.2, which was distributed with
X11R5. This release consists of many bug fixes, speed improvements, and
other enhancements. Here are the highlights of the enhancements:
1) The SpeedUp package from Glenn Lai is an integral part of XFree86,
selectable at run-time via the Xconfig file. Some SpeedUps require
an ET4000 based SVGA, and others require a virtual screen width of
1024. The SpeedUps suitable to the configuration are selected by
default. With a high-quality ET4000 board (VRAM), this can yield
up to 40% improvement of the xStones benchmark over X386 1.2.
2) The fX386 packages from Jim Tsillas are included as the default
operating mode if SpeedUp is not selected. This mode is now
equivalent in performance to X386 1.1b (X11R4), and approximately
20% faster than X386 1.2.
3) Support for LOCALCONN, compile-time selectable for server, clients,
or both. This support is for both SVR3.2 and SVR4. For SVR4.0.4
with the 'Advanced Compatibility Package', local connections from
SCO XSight/ODT clients are supported.
4) Drivers for ATI and Trident TVGA8900C and TVGA9000 SVGA chipsets.
Refer to the files README.ati and README.trident for details about
the ATI and Trident drivers.
5) Support for compressed bitmap fonts has been added (Thomas Eberhardt's
code from the contrib directory on export.lcs.mit.edu).
6) Type1 Font code from MIT contrib tape has been included, and is
compile-time selectable. There are contributed Type1 fonts in the
contrib directory on export.lcs.mit.edu.
7) New configuration method which allows the server's drivers and font
renderers to be reconfigured from both source and binary
distributions.
8) Integrated support for 386BSD, Mach, and Linux.
9) A monochrome version of the server which will run on generic VGA
cards is now included.
The following key features were added with the release of XFree86 1.2
(they were not in XFree86 1.1):
1) The monochrome server has been enhanced to do bank-switching of
available SVGA memory to allow virtual screens up to 1600x1200
(see the X386(1) manual page for more information).
2) Support for the Hercules mono card has been added to the
monochrome server, and with it the ability to support a "two
headed" server - one VGA, and one Hercules. So far this has only
been tested on SVR4 (it is also reported to work under Linux).
3) SVR3 shared libraries, tested under ISC SVR3 2.2 and 3.0.1.
4) Support for SVR4.2 (There are some special considerations to
consider, due to new USL bugs; see the README.SVR4 file for
more information.)
5) Support for PS/2 mice, and Logitech MouseMan/TrackMan (some
versions of these devices were not previously compatible).
6) A new tutorial on how to develop correct video card and monitor
timing data, written by Eric Raymond (derived from previous
documentation and a lot of experimentation).
7) Greatly improved support for international keyboards, including
implementation of the Compose key functionality found on many
vendor servers (see the X386keybd(1) manual page for more
information).
8) The accuracy with which the server detects SVGA pixel clocks has
been improved, and the timings are now stored at accuracies of
0.1 MHz. Users may want to consider removing an existing Clocks
line from their Xconfig file and re-probing using the new server.
9) Many enhancements in error handling and parsing of the Xconfig
configuration file. Error messages are much more informative
and intuitive, and more validation is done. There are many new
options that can be enabled in the Xconfig file (see the X386(1)
manual page for more information on the format of this file).
Plus a number of other small things. Refer to the CHANGELOG file
in the source distribution for full details.
Also included are a tutorial on monitor timing by Eric Raymond, and the
current X386 mode database and a sample xdm configuration by David Wexelblat.
4. What OSs are supported?
XFree86 supports:
SVR4.2: Consensys V4.2
SVR4.0: Microport, Dell, Esix, ISC, AT&T, MST, Consensys, UHC
SVR3: ISC 2.2 & 3.0, AT&T 2.2
Linux, Mach 386, 386BSD 0.1
BSD/386 is not supported, but it should work. The most active
BSD/386 person is Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>.
Note that Esix 3.2D and SCO are not supported yet,
but anyone should feel free to submit patches.
If you are interested in tackling this, send mail to
xfree86@physics.su.oz.au
5. What video hardware is supported?
At this time, XFree86 1.2 supports the following SVGA chipsets:
Tseng ET4000
Tseng ET3000
Paradise PVGA1
Western Digital WD90C00, WD90C10, WD90C11 (these are supersets of
the PVGA1, and use its driver)
Genoa GVGA
Trident TVGA8900C, TVGA9000
ATI 18800, 28800
All of the above are supported in both 256 color and monochrome modes,
with the exception of the ATI chipsets, which are only supported in
256 color mode.
The monochrome server also supports generic VGA cards, using 64k of
video memory in a single bank, and the Hercules card. On the
ET3000, only 64k of video memory is supported for the monochrome
server, and the GVGA has not been tested with more than 64k.
It appears that some of the SVGA card manufacturers are going to
non-traditional mechanisms for selecting pixel-clock frequencies. To
avoid having to modify the server to accommodate these schemes XFree86
1.2 adds support for using an external program to select the pixel
clock. This allows programs to be written as new mechanisms are
discovered. Refer to the README.clkprog file for information on how
these programs work, if you need to write one. If you do develop such
a program, the XFree86 team would be interested in including it with
future XFree86 releases.
If you are purchasing new hardware for the purpose of using XFree86,
it is suggested that you purchase an ET4000-based board such as the
Orchid ProDesigner IIs. Avoid recent Diamond boards; XFree86 will not
work with them, because Diamond won't provide programming details.
In fact, the XFree86 project is actively not supporting new Diamond
products, as long as such policies remain in effect. Contributions
of code will NOT be accepted (because of the potential liabilities).
If you would like to see this change, tell Diamond about it.
Some people have asked if XFree86 would work with local bus or EISA
video cards. Theoretically, the means of communication between the
CPU and the video card is irrelevant to Xfree86 compatibility. It
could be ISA, EISA, or local bus. What should matter is the chipset
on the video card. Unfortunately, the developers don't have a lot
of access to EISA or VLB machines, so this is largely an untested
theory. However, we have yet to see any reports of things not
working on one of these buses and we have several reports of Xfree86
working fine on them.
6. What about accelerated boards?
At this time, there is no support in XFree86 for accelerated boards
like the S3, ATI Ultra (8514/A), TIGA, etc. This support is available
in commercial products from SGCS and MetroLink (for SVR3 and SVR4).
An S3 server is available for 386BSD and Linux. Contact
<hasty@netcom.com> for 386BSD or <jon@robots.ox.ac.uk> for Linux.
A beta 8514/A server is available for Linux. Contact <martin@cs.unc.edu>
or <jon@robots.ox.ac.uk>. Note: these servers are NOT part of XFree86.
7. Why doesn't XFree86 support 16-color VGA modes?
The reason that this is not supported is the way VGA implements the
16-color modes. In 256-color modes, each byte of frame buffer memory
contains 1 pixel. But the 16-color modes are implemented as bit-
planes. Each byte of frame- buffer memory contains 1 bit from each
of each of 8 pixels, and there are four such planes. The MIT frame-
buffer code is not designed to deal with this. If VGA handled
16-color modes by packing 2 4-bit pixels into each byte, the MIT code
could be modified to support this (or it already may; I'm not sure).
But for the VGA way of doing things, a complete new frame-buffer
implementation is required. Some beta testers are looking into this,
but nothing is yet available from the project.
8. What other hardware or software requirements are there?
Obviously, a supported SVGA board and OS are required. To run
X efficiently, 12-16MB of memory should be considered a minimum.
The various binary releases take 10-40MB of disk space, depending
on the OS (e.g. whether or not it supports shared libraries).
To build from sources, at least 80MB of free disk space will
be required, although 120MB should be considered a comfortable
lower bound.
9. Where can I get source for XFree86?
Source patches for the current version (1.2, based on X11R5 PL22
from MIT), are available via anonymous FTP from:
export.lcs.mit.edu (under /contrib/XFree86)
ftp.physics.su.oz.au (under /XFree86)
ftp.win.tue.nl (under /pub/XFree86)
(For the rest of this FAQ, these 3 location will be called $FTP)
Refer to the README file under the specified directory for information
on which files you need to get to build your distribution.
10. Where can I get binaries for XFree86?
Binaries are available via anonymous FTP from:
ftp.physics.su.oz.au - SVR4 binaries
under /XFree86/SVR4
ftp.win.tue.nl - SVR4 binaries
under /pub/XFree86/SVR4
ferkel.ucsb.edu - SVR4 binaries
under /pub/SVR4/XFree86
stasi.bradley.edu - SVR4 binaries
under /pub/XFree86/SVR4
blancmange.ma.utexas.edu - SVR3 (ISC) binaries
under /pub/ISC
ftp.prz.tu-berlin.de - SVR3 (ISC) binaries
under /pub/pc/isc/XFree86
tsx-11.mit.edu - Linux binaries
under /pub/linux/packages/X11
agate.berkeley.edu - 386BSD binaries
under /pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/XFree86
ftp.cs.uwm.edu - Mach binaries
under /i386
Ensure that you are getting XFree86 1.2 - some of these sites may
archive older releases as well. Each binary distribution will
contain a README file that describes what files you need to take
from the archive, and which compile-time option selections were
made when building the distribution.
IV) What general things should I know about running XFree86?
11. Installation directories
The top-level installation directory is specified by the ProjectRoot
(/usr/X386, by default) variable in config/site.def. Binaries, include
files, and libraries are installed in $ProjectRoot/{bin,include,lib}.
This can be changed when rebuilding from sources, and can be modified
via symbolic links for those OSs that support them. This directory is
nonstandard, and was chosen this way to allow XFree86 to be installed
alongside a commercial/vendor-supplied X implementation.
12. Configuration files
The XFree86 server reads a configuration file ("Xconfig") on startup.
The search path, contents and syntax for this file are documented in
the server manpage, which should be consulted before asking questions.
13. Determining VGA dot clocks and monitor modes
David E Wexelblat (dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com) maintains a database of known
clock settings for VGA cards and monitor settings.
The database is installed in /usr/X386/lib/X11/etc/modeDB.txt, and
is in the source tree under mit/server/ddx/x386/etc. This database is
also available from him (for the latest copy), and is kept on
export.lcs.mit.edu in ~/contrib/X386.modeDB.Z, which is updated
occasionally. Obtain a copy of this database. It just might have the
settings you need. If you create new settings, please send them to
David for inclusion in the database.
If this doesn't help you, the VideoModes.doc (by Eric Raymond) file
with XFree86 contains tutorials on how to come up with these timings.
It may be helpful to start with settings that almost work, and use
this description to get them right. When you do, send the information
to David Wexelblat for inclusion in the database.
NOTE: The old 'clock.exe' program is not supported any more, and
is completely unnecessary. If you need to determine dot
clock values for a new board, remove the 'Clocks' line from
your Xconfig file (if present), and start the server. The
server will probe for clocks itself and print them out.
You can use these values to put a 'Clocks' line into your
Xconfig file, which is not necessary, but will speed up
starting the server in the future.
14. Rebuilding/reconfiguring the server from the link kit
If you have installed the server Binary Link Kit, it is possible to
reconfigure the drivers and font renderers in the server. This is
fully explained in the README file that is available with the link kit.
V) What OS-specific things should I know about running XFree86?
First of all, the server must be installed suid-root (mode 4755).
15. SVR4
Why won't my xterm run properly?
If your kernel is not built with the consem module, you should define
CONSEM=no in you environment. Otherwise xterm won't run.
csh users should use 'setenv CONSEM no'
The Esix console driver patch 403019 is known to cause keymapping
problems with XFree86. It recommended that this patch not be
installed. Alternatively they keymap can be fixed with xmodmap.
16. SVR3
Make sure you look at $FTP/README.ISC, if that's what you are running.
17. 386BSD
Make sure you look at $FTP/README.386BSD.
Also, a separate 386BSD FAQ is maintained by Richard Murphey
<Rich@Rice.edu>. The latest version should be available in the
file XFree86-1.2-386BSD-FAQ at the following ftp sites:
agate.berkeley.edu:/pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/XFree86-1.2
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors4/386bsd/0.1-ports/XFree86-1.2
grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr:pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/XFree86-1.2
18. Linux
You must be running Linux 0.97pl4 or greater, and have the 4.1 gcc
jump libraries installed.
Make sure the binaries X386, X386mono, xload and xterm are setuid root.
If your kernel doesn't have TCP support compiled in, you'll have to
run the server as "X -pn". The default startup configuration assumes
that TCP is not available. If it is, change the two files
/usr/X386/bin/startx and /usr/X386/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers, removing the
-pn argument to X386.
Make sure /dev/console is either a link to /dev/tty0 or has the major
number 4, minor number 0. Also note that if /dev/console is not
owned by the user running X, then xconsole and xterm will not permit
console output redirection. Xdm will properly change the owner, but
startx won't.
When running xdm from rc.local, you will need to provide it with
a tty, for example "xdm < /dev/console &".
For more detailed information, please read the file README present
with the distribution on tsx-11.mit.edu.
19. Mach
Make sure you look at $FTP/README.Mach.
VI) What things should I know for building XFree86 from source?
This section has been removed from the FAQ, since it is
fully explained in $FTP/README and the OS-specific READMEs.
Please look at those files for information on building XFree86.
VII) Is there anything special about building clients with XFree86?
20. BSD compatibility library
A lot of clients make use of BSD functions like bcopy(), etc.
The default configuration files are set up to link with libXbsd.a
which contains emulation for bcopy(), bzero(), bcmp(), ffs(), random(),
seed(). A better way of providing the 'b' functions is to include
<X11/Xfuncs.h> in source files that call them. Xfuncs.h provides macro
definitions for these in terms of the SYSV 'mem' functions. If you are
linking with a vendor supplied library which calls some of these
functions, then you should link with libXbsd.a
21. ANSICCOPTIONS
This is something that was added to allow a developer to get rid of the
ANSI-ness defined in the default CCOPTIONS without having to rewrite
the entire CCOPTIONS line. For example, with stock MIT, you'd see
something like
CCOPTIONS="-ansi -O2 -fwritable-strings"
and to get rid of the ANSI-ness, the developer would have to put
CCOPTIONS="-O2 -fwritable-strings"
in his Imakefile. With this change, you would see a default of
ANSICCOPTIONS="-ansi"
CCOPTIONS="-O2 -fwritable-strings"
and all the developer would have to put in the Imakefile is:
ANSICCOPTIONS=
to get rid of the ANSI-ness (many X clients will die a horrible death
with -ansi). The effect is even more dramatic in practice, because
CCOPTIONS is actually quite complex. The other issue is that one must
add 'ANSICCOPTIONS=$(ANSICCOPTIONS)' to a PassCDebugFlags definition.
XFree86 Contact Information
Ongoing development planning and support is coordinated by the XFree86
Core Team. At this time the Core Team consists of:
The original "gang of four":
David Dawes <dawes@physics.su.oz.au>
Glenn Lai <glenn@cs.utexas.edu>
Jim Tsillas <jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu>
David Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com>
Those supporting non-SYSV operating systems:
Robert Baron <Robert.Baron@ernst.mach.cs.cmu.edu> [Mach]
Rich Murphey <Rich@Rice.edu> [386BSD]
Orest Zborowski <obz@kodak.com> [Linux]
e-mail sent to <xfree86@physics.su.oz.au> will reach all of the core team.
--------------------------------------------------
Thanks to all the people who already sent me corrections or additions,
especially David Wexelblat (one of the major contributors of updates).
--
Steve Kotsopoulos P.Eng. mail: steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility uucp: uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto phone: (416) 978-5898
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9423 | Nntp-Posting-Host: dougn.byu.edu
Lines: 24
From: $stephan@sasb.byu.edu (Stephan Fassmann)
Subject: Re: [lds] Are the Mormons the True Church?
Organization: BYU
In article <C5rr9M.LJ7@acsu.buffalo.edu> psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) writes:
>From: psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss)
>Subject: [lds] Are the Mormons the True Church?
>Date: 20 Apr 93 06:29:00 GMT
>
> IS THE MORMON CHURCH CHRIST'S TRUE CHURCH?
>
[...lots of stuff about intellectual errors deleted...]
This is cute, but I see no statement telling me why your church is the true
church. I do presume that you know or at least believe that yours is true.
Attempting to ream my faith without replacing it with something "better" is
a real good way to loose a person completely from Christ.
This is the greatest reason I see that these attacks are not motivated by
love. They only seek to destroy there is no building or replacing of belief.
This is not something Christ did. He guided and instructed He didn't
seek to destroy the faith He found, He redirected it.
This is what I see when people say they "love" <insert favorite group here>.
And I have to laugh at the irony.
Please excuse the scarcasm but it was nice to say it.
Oh, BTW Robert don't take this personally, your post was merely convinent.
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9424 | From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Lines: 47
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com
In article <C5tKI1.C8s@rice.edu> fontenot@ravl.rice.edu (Dwayne Jacques
Fontenot) writes:
> In <C5tEnu.112F@ns1.nodak.edu> green@plains.NoDak.edu (Bill Green) writes:
> >Just to shed some light on the fire, it was widely reported (AP, etc.) that
> >there WERE several witnesses to BD folks starting the fires. It has also
> >been reported that the fires broke out in several places at once, which
> >rules out a Bradley knocking over a lamp, etc. as the cause.
>
> Consider this: The BDs had more than one lamp; The tanks made more than
> one hole in the building. Did anyone else notice on the video that it
> appeared that wherever there was smoke coming out of the building, there
> was a tank nearby?
>
> The fact that it appears that fires started in several places does not
> rule out anything.
I watched it live, and have re-watched it several times, and from the press
vantage point, there was only one starting point visible, where the tank
punched in on the windward side, and the winds whipped that fire across the
whole, dry, wooden, structure in minutes. Faned by the 30 mph gusts, and the
Hueys. If there were other fires started, they were not visible, nor were
they needed to cause the flame progression I observed.
>
> Also, where are these several witnesses? The way I heard it (from the FBI
> spokesman on CNN) the "witnesses" were all people driving the tanks.
>
All witnesses get thier paychecks from the FBI.
> >One other point, I'm no fan of Janet Reno, but I do like the way she had the
> >"balls" to go ahead and take full responsibility. Seems like the waffle boy
> >had problems figuring out just where he stood on the issue.
>
> Too bad nothing will happen to her or him. The FBI and the media have
> done their job well.
>
Yep. They media has endorsed the FBI version without question. Sad.
> Dwayne Jacques Fontenot
Jim
--
jmd@handheld.com
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"I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought
that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93
"If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed
in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!"
WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
|
9425 | From: creek-tm@aza.csc.ncsu.edu (Tobin M Creek)
Subject: Re: umbdr522.zip : Any later version ?
Keywords: umbdrv mem
Organization: NCSU
Lines: 27
fombaron@ufrima.imag.fr (FOMBARON marc) writes:
>Is there a more recent version of umbdr522.zip because it doesn't
>work on my machine.
>My motherboard has Symphony SL82C362 chips and they say it will be
>supported in the later versions, so is it out ?
>Thank you for helping.
>Marc.
The last I heard, the author was having some problems in his immediate
family and had delayed the continuation of development for a time.
This was some months ago.
It's a shame. The driver is the best memory manager I have found
ANYWHERE. It doesn't require V8086 mode (like QEMM) so it works with
Ultima 7. It doesn't take ANY memory (runs, then exits).
If only the EMM provider were a little faster and more stable.
--
tmcreek@eos.ncsu.edu \ These views respresent no one. / Now you
creek-tm@aza.csc.ncsu.edu \ Even I won't claim them. / are here
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#include "std_funny_stuff.h" /* This is where I include some witty tripe */
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9426 | From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: National Sales Tax, The Movie
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 38
In article <9304151442.AA05233@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> blh@uiboise.idbsu.edu (Broward L. Horne) writes:
> Well, it seems the "National Sales Tax" has gotten its very
> own CNN news LOGO!
>
> Cool. That means we'll be seeing it often.
>
> Man, I sure am GLAD that I quit working ( or taking this
> seriously ) in 1990. If I kept busting my ass, watching
> time go by, being frustrated, I'd be pretty DAMN MAD by
> now.
>
> I just wish I had the e-mail address of total gumby who
> was saying that " Clinton didn't propose a NST ".
>
Actually, Jerry Brown essentially did...and Clinton, in his demagogue
persona, condemned Brown for it in the crucial NY primary last year.
However....
Why don't the Republicans get their act together, and say they
will support a broad-based VAT that would have to be visible
(the VAT in Canada is visible unlike the invisible VATS they
have in Europe)
and suggest a rate sufficient to halve income and corporate
and capital gains tax rates and at a rate sufficient to give
the Clintons enough revenue for their health care reform, and
force an agreement with the Democrats that the top income tax
rate would then be frozen for the forseeable future and could
be increased only via a national referendum.
Why not make use of the Clintons to do something worthwhile...
shift the tax burden from investment to consumption, and get
health care reform, and a frozen low top marginal tax rate
all in one fell swoop.
Gerald
|
9427 | From: kckluge@eecs.umich.edu (Karl Kluge)
Subject: Re: Gritz/JBS/Liberty Lobby/LaRouche/Christic Insitute/Libertarian/....
In-Reply-To: arf@genesis.MCS.COM's message of 15 Apr 1993 20:57:53 -0500
Organization: University of Michigan
Lines: 21
> From: arf@genesis.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling)
> Subject: Re: Gritz/JBS/Liberty Lobby/LaRouche/Christic Insitute/Libertarian/....
> Date: 15 Apr 1993 20:57:53 -0500
>
> I can't speak for the organizations you cited but everywhere you look in
> our society and government, one can see the relentless movement toward
> one world government. The fact that the media demeans such charished
> values as patriotism, nationalism and protectionism are some of the
> clues....Our porous border both people and trade are an indiciation that
> we have already lost a great deal of sovergnty.
...and I'm sure that people who were big fans of fuedalism pissed and
moaned about the emergence of the modern nation-state. Imagine, the King
allowing serfs their freedom if they could live in the city for a year!
Times change, technology changes, viable forms of social organization
change. While concerns about preserving Western notions of civil liberties
in the face of cultures with very different values is a valid one, it's
a waste of effort to try to turn back the tide. It's much smarter to focus
on trying to make sure that the emerging forms of social organization are
acceptable than it iss to lament the passing of the old forms.
|
9428 | From: aep@world.std.com (Andrew E Page)
Subject: Re: SetWUTime Works on a PB 230
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 12
I have tested this on a 230 and it does work there. So it would
seem that the 140 and 170 are out though. One way to tell is to
go and open the PowerBook control panel(7.1). There is a setting
there that allows you to set the time to wake up the Mac. If it
is present when you open the control panel, then you can assume that
SetWUTime will work.
--
Andrew E. Page (Warrior Poet) | Decision and Effort The Archer and Arrow
Mac Consultant | The difference between what we are
Macintosh and DSP Technology | and what we want to be.
|
9429 | Subject: Re: A visit from the Jehovah's Witnesses
From: lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-Host: skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Lines: 27
In article <chrisb.734064380@bAARNie>, chrisb@tafe.sa.edu.au (Chris BELL) writes...
>jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com writes:
>
>>My syllogism is of the form:
>>A is B.
>>C is A.
>>Therefore C is B.
>
>>This is a logically valid construction.
>
>>Your syllogism, however, is of the form:
>>A is B.
>>C is B.
>>Therefore C is A.
>
>>Therefore yours is a logically invalid construction,
>>and your comments don't apply.
If all of those are "is"'s of identity, both syllogisms are valid.
If, however, B is a predicate, then the second syllogism is invalid.
(The first syllogism, as you have pointed out, is valid--whether B
is a predicate or designates an individual.)
Jim Lippard Lippard@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Dept. of Philosophy Lippard@ARIZVMS.BITNET
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721
|
9430 | From: a137490@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Aario Sami)
Subject: Re: Genocide is Caused by Atheism
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Lines: 48
Distribution: sfnet
NNTP-Posting-Host: cc.tut.fi
In <1993Apr9.154316.19778@ultb.isc.rit.edu> snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.N. Mozumder ) writes:
>In article <kmr4.1483.734243128@po.CWRU.edu> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
>> If I state that I know that there is a green marble in a closed box,
>>which I have _never_ seen, nor have any evidence for its existance; I would
>>be guilty of deceit, even if there is, in fact, a green marble inside.
>>
>> The question of whether or not there is a green marble inside, is
>>irrelevent.
>You go ahead and play with your marbles.
I love it, I love it, I love it!! Wish I could fit all that into a .sig
file! (If someone is keeping a list of Bobby quotes, be sure to include
this one!)
>>
>> Stating an unproven opinion as a fact, is deceit. And, knowingly
>>being decietful is a falsehood and a lie.
>So why do you think its an unproven opinion? If I said something as
>fact but you think its opinion because you do not accept it, then who's
>right?
The Flat-Earthers state that "the Earth is flat" is a fact. I don't accept
this, I think it's an unproven opinion, and I think the Round-Earthers are
right because they have better evidence than the Flat-Earthers do.
Although I can't prove that a god doesn't exist, the arguments used to
support a god's existence are weak and often self-contradictory, and I'm not
going to believe in a god unless someone comes over to me and gives me a
reason to believe in a god that I absolutely can't ignore.
A while ago, I read an interesting book by a fellow called Von Daenicken,
in which he proved some of the wildest things, and on the last page, he
wrote something like "Can you prove it isn't so?" I certainly can't, but
I'm not going to believe him, because he based his "proof" on some really
questionable stuff, such as old myths (he called it "circumstancial
evidence" :] ).
So far, atheism hasn't made me kill anyone, and I'm regarded as quite an
agreeable fellow, really. :)
--
Sami Aario | "Can you see or measure an atom? Yet you can explode
a137490@cc.tut.fi | one. Sunlight is comprised of many atoms."
-------------------' "Your stupid minds! Stupid, stupid!"
Eros in "Plan 9 From Outer Space" DISCLAIMER: I don't agree with Eros.
|
9431 | From: spowell@trentu.ca (STEFAN POWELL)
Subject: Cool background patterns!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Organization: Trent Computing and Telecommunications Department
Lines: 16
Here are some cool 3-D background patterns I made.
Edit your CONTROL.INI and add the following lines to your [Patterns] section.
Bricks=148 43 86 172 89 182 99 201
Tile=1 43 85 43 85 43 85 255
Tile (diagonal)=148 107 54 156 73 182 99 201
Slats=0 170 85 170 85 170 85 255
Make sure your desktop color is one of the standard 16 colors or the
patterns might not work. I like dark grey the best with these.
If you have any cool one's of your own, please mail them to me.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Stefan Powell - SPowell@TrentU.CA
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
|
9432 | From: rainer@sun3.eeam.elin.co.at (Rainer Hochreiter)
Subject: X-Terminal question
Organization: ELIN Energeanwendung Ges.m.b.H
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: sun3.eeam.elin.co.at
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
A simple question to all the Xperts:
Is it possible to use several X-Terminals
with only one mouse and one keyboard?
Any suggestions?
Thanks, rainer.
--
Rainer Hochreiter | Telephone: +43 (1) 89100 / 3961
ELIN-Energieanwendung GesmbH | Telefax : +43 (1) 89100 / 3387
Penzingerstr. 76 |
A-1141 Wien, Austria/Europe | E-mail : rainer@elin.co.at
|
9433 | From: deane@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (David Matthew Deane)
Subject: Re: PUBLIC HEARINGS on Ballot Access, Vote Fraud and Other Issues
Reply-To: deane@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Lines: 10
Well, the message was interesting (and long), but TWICE? Oh Well. Personally,
I loathe libertarianism, but my disagreement is philisophical, not tactical.
Election law reform is a good idea. You would not believe what kind of stunts
the creatures of the 2 party system are capable of pulling.
============================================================================
David Matthew Deane (deane@binah.cc.brandeis.edu)
When the words fold open,
it means the death of doors;
even casement windows sense the danger. (Amon Liner)
|
9434 | From: kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller)
Subject: Re: My Predictions For 1993
Article-I.D.: netnews.118466
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences
Lines: 17
Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.sas.upenn.edu
In article <1993Apr5.183304.29191@oswego.Oswego.EDU> iacs3650@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Kevin Mundstock) writes:
>Since everyone else seems to be running wild with predictions, I've
>decided to add my own fuel to the fire:
>They might seem a bit normal, but there are a few (albeit, small) surprises.
>AL Manager of the Year-Buck Showalter
What makes you think Buck will still be in New York at year's end with
George back? :-)
--
Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!!
kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
"Next time you go over my head, I'll have yours on a platter."
-- Cmdr. Benjamin Sisko, 1993
|
9435 | From: grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221)
Subject: Declassifying media
Organization: capriccioso
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Lines: 82
There are many Urban Legends (maybe this ought to be in the Crypt
FAQ?) about what is actually sufficient to clear or declassify
magnetic media when used for classified data. Here is some
information "from the horse's mouth".
(Regarding the sufficient overwriting of media ("clearing") meant to
be *retained* within the controlled environment, or declassifying
the material to be reused *outside* the controlled environment,)
From National Telecommunications and Information Systems
Security (NTISS) "Advisory Memorandum on Office Automation
Security Guidelines" (NTISSAM COMPUSEC/1/87):
------
"7.6.2.1 Clearing of Magnetic Media
Certain types of removable media (e.g., magnetic tape, floppy disk,
cassettes, and magnetic cards) may be cleared by overwriting the
entire media one time with any one character. Floppy disks may be
cleared by applying a vendor's formatting program that overwrites
each location with a given character.
Fixed media (e.g., Winchester disks) should be cleared by overwriting
at least one time with any one character. One way to do this is by
applying a vendor-supplied formatting program that overwrites each
location on the disk with a given character, if it can be shown that
this program actually works as advertised. The user should beware:
some programs that purport to overwrite all locations do not
actually do this.
Cleared media may be resides within the controlled facility or
released for destruction; however, they should be marked and
controlled at the level of the most restrictive sensitivity of
information ever recorded.
7.6.2.2 Declassification of Magnetic Media
Certain types of removable media can be declassified using a
degaussing device that has been approved for declassifying media of
that type. (A list of approved devices is maintained by the NSA.)
If a fixed medium (for example, a hard, or Winchester, disk) is
operative, an approved method of declassifying the disk pack is to
employ an overwrite procedure which must overwrite all
addressable locations at least three times by writing any character,
then its complement (e.g., binary ones and binary zeros)
alternatively.
When fixed media become inoperative, it is impossible to declassify
the media by the overwrite method. In this case, there are two
alternate procedures that may be used: (1) disassemble the disk
pack, and degauss each platter with the appropriate approved
degaussing equipment; and (2) courier the inoperative media to the
vendor's facility, have the magnetic media (e.g., disk platter)
removed in sight of the courier and returned to the courier for
destruction at the secure site. The vendor can then install new
platters and repair any other problems with the disk unit.
7.6.3 Destruction of Magnetic Media"
[see DoD Computer Security Center, "Department of Defense Magnetic
Remanence Security Guideline", CSC-STD-003-85 FOR OFFICIAL USE
ONLY]
------
This and many other interesting documents (many that are more
informative than probably intended) on computer security procedures
can be obtained (free) from:
Executive Secretary
National Telecommunications and Informations
Systems Security Committee
National Security Agency
Fort George G. Meade, MD 20755-6000
Write them! It's fun to be on the NSA's mailing list...
--
grady@netcom.com 2EF221 / 15 E2 AD D3 D1 C6 F3 FC 58 AC F7 3D 4F 01 1E 2F
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9436 | From: cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook)
Subject: Re: Why Is Tax Evasion Not Considered Unpatriotic?
Organization: WINCO
Lines: 32
In article <C4vy56.C0t@newsserver.technet.sg> ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
>In article <1993Mar31.185128.5668@pmafire.inel.gov> cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) writes:
>>In article <1pasrg$ife@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>>>
>>> The title is self-explanatory; Isaac Asimov once pointed out
>>>that curious fact.
>>
>>Well, since tax evasion is illegal, one generally would not bother to
>>consider whether it was unpatriotic or not. How often does one think
>>of murder as being unpatriotic?
>>
>>Perhaps a more appropriate question would be "why is tax *avoidance* not
>>considered unpatriotic?". The answer to this is simple. Tax avoidance
>>is simply defined as paying the minimum tax you are legally obligated to
>>pay.
>
>There is a deeper reason. Taxes, by their very nature, are un-American.
>One need only look at the birth and history of the US to see this fact.
Wasn't the beef with the English over "taxation WITHOUT REPRESENTATION",
not taxation itself?
From my admittedly dim recollection of US history, most of the problems
we Americans have had with taxes have been with unfair/unjust taxation
schemes, not with taxes themselves. It's pretty hard to run a government
without any means of support.
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...Dale Cook "Any town having more churches than bars has a serious
social problem." ---Edward Abbey
The opinions are mine only (i.e., they are NOT my employer's)
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9437 | From: smikes@topgun (Steven Mikes)
Subject: Re: XVideo Information
Organization: UN*X Technologies
Lines: 13
The product you mention is XVideo from Parallax Graphics in Santa Clara,
California, US. You can read our product review in the Jan/Feb '93 issue
of The X Journal. That issues focuses on Multimedia and X, in which there
are also a number of other useful items, including an article on Video in
an X Window. Fax our New York office at 212.274.0646 for information on
obtaining back issues.
Steve
--
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1097 Eastbrook Rd., Martinsville, NJ 08836
OFFICE: 908.563.9033 - FAX: 908.560.8635
"Serving The X Window System Community"
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9438 | From: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
Subject: Re: Bikes vs. Horses (was Re: insect impac
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 27
Reply-To: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) says:
>In article sda@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant) writes:
> The only people who train for years to jump a horse 2 feet
>are equistrian posers who wear velvet tails and useless helmets.
>
Which, as it turns out, is just about everybody that's serious about
horses. What a bunch of weenie fashion nerds. And the helmets suck. I'm wearing
my Shoei mountain bike helmet - fuck em.>>>
>> Or I'm permanently injured.
>
>Oops. too late.
>
Nah, I can still walk unaided.
--
Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
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9439 | From: tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard)
Subject: Re: Foreskin Troubles
Summary: Dorsal slit operation
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1993Apr22.221111.9678
Organization: Pegasus, Honolulu
Lines: 11
In article <1993Apr18.042100.2720@radford.vak12ed.edu> mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich) writes:
>What can be done, short of circumcision, for an adult male
>whose foreskin will not retract?
>
Melissa, there is a simpler procedure called a "Dorsal slit" that is
really the first step of the usual circumcision. It is simpler and
quicker, but the pain is about the same as circumcision after the
anesthetic wears off and the aesthetic result post healing is not as
good. See your friendly urologist for more details.
Len Howard
.
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9440 | From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Subject: What determines the default X font?
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Lines: 10
I'm running X under openwindows 3. Normal X programs not having a
font specified always show up in the same font - until I change the
fontpath, and restart windows - then a new default font is used until
the next change. I can't seem to figure out how it chooses. Is there
some way to set this? Possibly something in .Xdefaults???
Please reply in direct email - I summarize.
--
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet. Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
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9441 | From: andrew@calvin.dgbt.doc.ca (Andrew Patrick)
Subject: Any Interest in a Mailing List on Epilepsy and Seizures?
Nntp-Posting-Host: calvin.dgbt.doc.ca
Organization: Communications Research Centre, Ottawa, Canada
Lines: 36
I have seen a fair bit of traffic recently concerning Epilepsy and
seizures. I am also interested in this subject -- I have a son with
Epilepsy and I am very active with the local association. I posted a
message like this a few months ago and received no replies, but here it
is again.
Is anyone interested in participating in a mailing list on Epilepsy and
seizures? This would allow us to hold discussions and share
information via electronic mail. I already run a Listserver for two
other groups, so the mechanics would be easy.
If you are interested, mail me a note. If I get enough replies, I will
make it happen and provide you with the details.
BTW, I have also started a database on Epilepsy. This is part of my
research on natural language question answering systems. Users of this
service are able to ask questions about Epilepsy and the program
searches the database and retrieves its best response. The technology
works by comparing your question against a set of questions that have
been seen before. All new questions that are not answered are recorded
and used to improve the system.
This database is still small and sparse, but we are adding new
information. To try it out, do the following
telnet debra.dgbt.doc.ca
login: chat
Then select the Epilepsy item from the menu of databases.
--
Andrew Patrick, Ph.D. Communications Research Centre, Ottawa, CANADA
andrew@calvin.dgbt.doc.CA
For a good time, run "telnet debra.dgbt.doc.ca" and login as "chat".
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9442 | From: John.M.Chung@dartmouth.edu (John M. Chung)
Subject: PowerVision for PB's
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Lines: 10
X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0b14@dartmouth.edu
Hi,
I'm in the market for an internal color video adaptor for my PB 145. I
was wondering if anyone has used the PowerVision adaptor made by
Mirror. If so, can you tell me how feel about the speed and
compatability of it? I might also be interested in other boards by
Envisio etc., so if you have such a board please e-mail your opinion of
it. Thanks in advance.
John
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9443 | From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX)
Subject: Re: My New Diet --> IT WORKS GREAT !!!!
Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
Lines: 38
In article <C5wC7G.4EG@toads.pgh.pa.us> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>In article <1993Apr22.001642.9186@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes:
>
>>>>>Can you provide a reference to substantiate that gaining back
>>>>>the lost weight does not constitute "weight rebound" until it
>>>>>exceeds the starting weight? Or is this oral tradition that
>>>>>is shared only among you obesity researchers?
>>>>
>>>>Annals of NY Acad. Sci. 1987
>>>>
>>>Hmmm. These don't look like references to me. Is passive-aggressive
>>>behavior associated with weight rebound? :-)
>>
>>I purposefully left off the page numbers to encourage the reader to
>>study the volumes mentioned, and benefit therefrom.
>>
>
>Good story, Chuck, but it won't wash. I have read the NY Acad Sci
>one (and have it). This AM I couldn't find any reference to
>"weight rebound". I'm not saying it isn't there, but since you
>cited it, it is your responsibility to show me where it is in there.
>There is no index. I suspect you overstepped your knowledge base,
>as usual.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
>geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
It's on page 315, about 2 1/2 inches up from the bottom and an inch in
from the right.
At least we know what some people *haven't* read and remembered.
--
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf
Author of YMODEM, ZMODEM, Professional-YAM, ZCOMM, and DSZ
Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software"
17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD Portland OR 97231 503-621-3406
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9444 | From: yb025@uafhp..uark.edu (John Schiefer)
Subject: engagement ring give up
Summary: Beautiful 14k gold band with a .33 carat diamond. very clean.
Keywords: holmes
Article-I.D.: moe.1psvhj$gp5
Organization: Kansas State University
Lines: 3
NNTP-Posting-Host: uafhp.uark.edu
Diamond engagement ring. 14k gold band. 33point diamond. appraised at
1900 dollars. Will sell for 600 dollars. Appraisal available upon request.
send e-mail to yb025@uafhp.uark.edu
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9445 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: The 'justice' for the victims of the Armenian Barbarism and Fascism.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 102
In article <66118@licre.ludwig.edu.au> THEO@licre.ludwig.edu.au writes:
>> First of all: it is called ISTANBUL.
>> Let me even spell it for you: I S T A N B U L
>> - - - - - - - -
>>
>> Secondly: The Turks are also asking for their money, for
>> their destroyed and confiscated properties in Greece, and
>> former-Yugoslavia (Bosnia and Serbia).
>Classic !!
It is called 'The Justice'. We also demand that the x-Soviet Armenian
Government admit its responsibility for the Turkish and Kurdish
Genocide, render reparations to the Muslim people, and return the
land to its rightful owners. The recognition of the Genocide has
become an issue which cannot be delayed further, and it is imperative
that artificial obstacles created for political manipulations be removed.
>Now if we're talking about rent and vandalism, let's make it fair then:
>Greece pays back it's dues and Turkey pays for 400 years rent and
>destruction of classical architecture. Deal? Democracy in action.
Are you the 'truelove' or 'falselove' of 'Arromdian' of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF
Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle?
"If Turks had behaved like Christians to use force to convert to Islam the
nations which they brought under their power, to which no one could have
opposed, today there would be no Eastern problem. But Turks did not do so.
They obeyed the word of the Koran to permit everybody "to worship in their own
way" centuries before Frederick the Great pronounced his famous dictum. Thus,
in an age when the Christian Europe itself shed Christian blood and when
people in Europe enjoyed inflicting inhuman tortures upon those whose beliefs
differed from theirs, the Ottoman Empire became the sole country where the
inquisition did not exist, where deaths at the stake were unheard of and
where accusations of witchcraft were not made. And the barbarian (!) Turkey
was the only country where the Jews persecuted and chased away everywhere
by the Christians, could find asylum. These facts demonstrate that Muslim
countries provided spiritually far better living conditions than Christian
countries."[1]
"The Turks, who are a conquering nation, did not Turkify the nations that came
under their rule; instead, they respected their religions and traditions. It
was a stroke of luck for Romania to live under Turkish rule instead of
Russian or Austrian rule. Because otherwise there would not have been a
Romanian nation today" (Popescu Ciocanel).
"Turks rule over people under their administration only externally, without
interfering with their internal structures. On account of this, the autonomy
of minorities in Turkey is better and more complete than any in the most
advanced European countries."[2]
"...human beings hate each other on account of religious differences. This flaw
is older than Islam and Christianity. But there has never been any examples
of this adjuration in Turkey because Turks never oppress anybody on account
of his religion. If enmity on the basis of religion had been such a case of
simple contempt among us too, or if it did not keep translating itself into
action, many nations in our Europe would probably have considered themselves
happy!" (A. de Mortraye).[3]
"Turkey never became a scene for religious terror or for the cruelty of the
inquisition. On the contrary, it served as an asylum for the unfortunate
victims of Christian fanaticism. If you look into history, you will see that
in the fifteenth century thousands of Jews who were expelled from Spain and
Portugal found such a good asylum in Turkey that their descendants have been
living there very calmly all through these approximately three hundred years,
and are only forced to defend themselves in some countries against the
cruelty of Christians, especially that of the Orthodoxes. No Jew is able to
appear in public during Easter celebrations in Athens, even today. In Turkey,
however, if the Israelites are insulted by the Greek and Armenian communities,
local courts immediately take them under their protection."
"In that vast and calm country of the sultan, all religions and nations are
living together peacefully. Although the mosque is superior to the church and
the synagogue, it does not replace them. Because of this, the Catholic sect is
more free in Istanbul and Smyrna compared with Paris and Lyon. In addition
to the fact that no law in Turkey prohibits the open-air ceremonies of this
sect, neither does any law imprison its cross in the church. While the
dead are being taken to the graves, a long line of priests bear processional
candles and chant Catholic hymns. When all the priests in all the churches in
the Galata and Beyoglu districts go into the streets and form clerical
processions during the Eucharist celebrations, chanting hymns and bearing
their crosses and religious banners, a detachment of soldiers escorts them
which forces even the Turks to stand in respect around the group of
priests." (A. Ubicini).[4]
[1] Ah. Djevat, "Yabancilara Gore Eski Turkler," 3rd ed. (Istanbul, 1978),
pp. 70-71.
[2] Ibid., p.91.
[3] Ibid., pp. 214-215.
[4] Ibid., pp. 215-216.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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9446 | From: jk87377@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Kouhia Juhana)
Subject: XV problems
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Lines: 113
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cc.tut.fi
[Please, note the Newsgroups.]
Recent discussion about XV's problems were held in some newsgroup.
Here is some text users of XV might find interesting.
I have added more to text to this collection article, so read on, even
you so my articles a while ago.
I hope author of XV corrects those problems as best he can, so fine
program XV is that it is worth of improving.
(I have also minor ideas for 24bit XV, e-mail me for them.)
Any misundertanding of mine is understandable.
Juhana Kouhia
==clip==
[ ..deleted..]
Note that 'xv' saves only 8bit/rasterized images; that means that
the saved jpegs are just like jpeg-to-gif-to-jpeg quality.
Also, there's three kind of 8bit quantizers; your final image quality
depends on them too.
This were the situation when I read jpeg FAQ a while ago.
IMHO, it is design error of 'xv'; there should not be such confusing
errors in programs.
There's two errors:
-xv allows the saving of 8bit/rasterized image as jpeg even the
original is 24bit -- saving 8bit/rasterized image instead of
original 24bit should be a special case
-xv allows saving the 8bit/rasterized image made with any quantizer
-- the main case should be that 'xv' quantizes the image with the
best quantizer available before saving the image to a file; lousier
quantizers should be just for viewing purposes (and a special cases
in saving the image, if at all)
==clip==
==clip==
[ ..deleted..]
It is limit of *XV*, but not limit of design.
It is error in design.
It is error that 8bit/quantized/rasterized images are stored as jpegs;
jpeg is not designed to that.
As matter of fact, I'm sure when XV were designed 24bit displays were
known. It is not bad error to program a program for 8bit images only
at that time, but when 24bit image formats are included to program the
whole design should be changed to support 24bit images.
That were not done and now we have
-the program violate jpeg design (and any 24bit image format)
-the program has human interface errors.
Otherway is to drop saving images as jpegs or any 24bit format without
clearly saying that it is special case and not expected in normal use.
[ ..deleted.. ]
==clip==
Some new items follows.
==clip==
I have seen that XV quantizes the image sometimes poorly with -best24
option than with default option we have.
The reason surely is the quantizer used as -best24; it is (surprise)
the same than used in ppmquant.
If you remember, I have tested some quantizers. In that test I found
that rlequant (with default) is best, then comes djpeg, fbmquant, xv
(our default) in that order. In my test ppmquant suggeeded very poorly
-- it actually gave image with bad artifacts.
I don't know is ppmquant improved any, but I expect no.
So, use of XV's -best24 option is not very good idea.
I suggest that author of XV changes the quantizer to the one used in
rlequant -- I'm sure rle-people gives permission.
(Another could be one used in ImageMagick; I have not tested it, so I
can say nothing about it.)
==clip==
==clip==
Some minor bugs in human interface are:
Key pressings and cursor clicks goes to a buffer; Often it happens
that I make click errors or press keyboard when cursor is in the wrong
place. It is very annoying when you have waited image to come about
five minutes and then it is gone away immediately.
The buffer should be cleaned when the image is complete.
Also, good idea is to wait few seconds before activating keyboard
and mouse for XV after the image is completed.
Often it happens that image pops to the screen quickly, just when
I'm writing something with editor or such. Those key pressings
then go to XV and image has gone or something weird.
In the color editor, when I turn a color meter and release it, XV
updates the images. It is impossible to change all RGB values first
and then get the updated image. It is annoying wait image to be
updated when the setting are not ready yet.
I suggest of adding an 'apply' button to update the exchanges done.
==clip==
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9447 | From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr)
Subject: Re: Part 1 and part 2 (re: Homosexuality)
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 80
In article <m0njXCg-0000VEC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>Perhaps you don't get it, and maybe you never will. Many didn't get it in the
>Middle Ages and the proclaimed God's will be done as they massacred thousands
>in witch hunts and inquisitions.
There were many injustices in the middle ages. And this is truely sad.
I would hate to see a day when churches put people to death or torchured
them for practicing homosexuality, or any other crime. The church is not
called to take over the governments of the world. It may be that homosexuals
treated cruelly today, but that does not mean that we should teach
Christians to practice homosexual immorality. Do you think that we should
also teach Christians to practice divination and channelling because
the witches in the middle ages were persecuted.
>The major flaw in all this posturing is that in the end, the
>final effect of posts like that of yours and Mr. Hudson is that YOU have a
>"conditional" love for gays. Condition: Change and we'll love you. This is
>sure strange coming from a group who claim that God has an "unconditional"
>love, one that calls people "just as they are."
And you accuse me of judging? When did you look into my heart and see
if I have love. I have been writing that we should not teach Christians
to practice homosexual immorality, and you pretend to have divine knowledge
to look into my heart. I can't say that I love homosexuals as I should-
I can't say that I love my neighbor as I should either. I don't know
very many homosexuals as it is.
But Jesus loves homosexuals, just as He loves everyone else. If His love
were conditional, I not know Him at all. Yes. We should show love to
homosexuals, but it is not love to encourage brothers in the church to
stumble and continue in their sin. That is a very damaging and dangerous
thing.
>The results of the passing amendment in
>Colorado has created an organization who's posters are appearing all over
>Colorado called "S.T.R.A.I.G.H.T." (I forget the whole definition off hand,
>but the last part was Against Immoral Gross Homosexual Trash) and their motto
>is "Working for a fag-free America" with an implicit advocation for violence.
>
>This is sick, and it seems to be what you and Mr. Hudson, and others are
>embracing.
That is slander. I could just as easily say that NAMBLA has been able
to implement legislation to make child molesting easier because of
the tearing down of societies morality due to people accepting homosexuality
as normal, and that this is what you are embracing. I do believe
that homosexual sex is immoral, that does not mean I endorse using violence
against them. There is a problem of hatred in the church. But there
is also the problem of what has been called "unsanctified mercy."
Many in the conservative churches have seen the moral breakdown in
this country and the storm on the horizon, and have gotten militant in
the flesh. This is truely sad. Yet others in other churches have
embraced immorality in society, and have pointed to the carnality in the
conservative churches to justify their actions.
>Why don't we just stick to the positive and find ways to bring people
>to Jesus istead of taking bullwhips and driving them away?
Certainly we should not use a bullwhip to drive people from Jesus.
But we shouldn't water down the gospel to draw people in. Jesus didn't
go out of His way to show only what might be considered positive aspects
to draw people in. He told one man to sell all He had. He told
another not to say good bye to His family. His words were hard at times.
We should present people with the cost of the tower before we allow them
to begin construction. many people have already been innoculated to the
gospel.
Link Hudson.
>
>Whatever
>
>Rich :-(
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9448 | From: avinash@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Avinash Chopde)
Subject: TrueType fonts that display but do not print.
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Distribution: na
Lines: 18
I just installed a new TrueType font under MS-Windows 3.1
but though all the applications display the font correctly on the
screen, quite a few of them fail to print out the document correctly
(on a LaserJet 4 - non-PostScript printer).
When I use the font in CorelDRAW, the document prints correctly, so I assume
CorelDRAW knows that the font has to be downloaded to the printer.
But when I use the Windows accessory Write, the printer prints square
boxes in place of the characters of the new font. Yet, Write does
display the font correctly on the screen.
I looked through all the Windows and LaserJet manuals, but got nowhere.
All of them just make the statement that TrueType fonts will print
exactly as you see them on the screen---so I assume Windows knows that a font
has to be downloaded automatically---but, how to make it do that????
Appreciate any help....
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9449 | From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: JUDAS, CRUCIFIXION, TYRE, Etc...
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 32
/(Frank DeCenso)
/>
/>I need to prioritize things in my life, and this board is not all that important
/>to me.
Of course it is. It forms a very big part of your self-respect. You come onto
the board, thinking you're some sort of apologeticist for your faith, and you
routinely get roasted over a grill for stupid theories and unfounded assumptions.
/(Frank DeCenso)
/This board will have
/>to wait until (if ever) I can organize my life to fit it in. I tried dropping
/>out, but Sieferman coerced me to come back. He won't this time.
I doubt that Sieferman has anything to do with you dropping out.
It's probably closer to the truth to say that you don't have the cards to
play in this game (because you insist on playing from a losing hand), and you're
finally realizing it. You will lurk on the board, and keep
quiet for a while, looking for an area where you are *certain* that you
are correct, and then we'll see you pop back in again. Of course, you then
will say that you have merely returned because your life is now "in order".
But we'll know better.
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9450 | From: marty@howdy.wustl.edu (Marty Olevitch)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Nntp-Posting-Host: howdy
Organization: Washington U. Physics Dept
Lines: 3
Bo Bilinsky?
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9451 | From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack)
Subject: Re: Syria's Expansion
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Lines: 95
In article <C5qHyA.5Gn@dscomsa.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>
>In article <1993Apr18.212610.5933@das.harvard.edu>, adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack) writes:
>|>In article <18APR93.15729846.0076@VM1.MCGILL.CA> B8HA000 <B8HA@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes:
>|>>1) Is Israel's occupation of Southern Lebanon temporary?
>|> Israel has repeatedly stated that it will leave Lebanon when
>|>the Lebanese government can provide guarantees that Israel will not be
>|>attacked from Lebanese soil, and when the Syrians leave.
>Not acceptable. Syria and Lebanon have a right to determine if
>they wish to return to the situation prior to the French invasion
>where they were both part of the same "mandate territory" - read
>colony.
And Lebanon has a right to make this decision without Syrian
troops controlling the country. Until Syria leaves, and free
elections take place, its is rediculous to claim that the Lebanese
would even be involved in determining what happens to their country.
>Israel has no right to determine what happens in Lebanon. Invading another
>country because you consider them a threat is precisely the way that almost
>all wars of aggression have started.
I expect you will agree that the same holds true for Syria
having no right to be in Lebanon?
>|> Israel has already annexed areas taken over in the 1967 war.
>|>These areas are not occupied, but disputed, since there is no
>|>legitamate governing body. Citizenship was given to those residents
>|>in annexed areas who wanted citizenship.
>The UN defines them as occupied. They are recognised as such by every
>nation on earth (excluding one small caribean island).
The UN also thought Zionism is racism. That fails to make it true.
>|> The first reason was security. A large Jewish presense makes
>|>it difficult for terrorists to infiltrate. A Jewish settlements also
>|>act as fortresses in times of war.
>
>Theyu also are a liability. We are talking about civilian encampments that
>would last no more than hours against tanks,
They lasted weeks against tanks in '48, and stopped those
tanks from advancing. They also lasted days in '73. There is little
evidence for the claim that they are military liabilities.
They evidence is there to show that when infiltrations take
place over the Jordan river, the existance of large, patrolled
kibutzim forces terrorists into a very small area, where they are
usually picked up in the morning.
>|> A second reason was political. Creating "settlements" brought
>|>the arabs to the negotiation table. Had the creation of new towns and
>|>cities gone on another several years, there would be no place left in
>|>Israel where there was an arab majority. There would have been no
>|>land left that could be called arab.
>Don't fool yourself. It was the gulf war that brought the Israelis to the
>negotiating table. Once their US backers had a secure base in the gulf
>they insrtructed Shamir to negotiate or else.
Nonsense. Israel has been trying to get its neighbors to the
negotiating table for 40 years. It was the gulf war that brought the
arabs to the table, not the Israelis.
>|> The point is, there are many reasons people moved over the
>|>green line, and many reasons the government wanted them to. Whatever
>|>status is negotiated for disputed territories, it will not be an "all
>|>or nothing" deal. New boundaries will be drawn up by negotiation, not
>|>be the results of a war.
>Unless the new boundaries drawn up are those of 48 there will be no peace.
>Araffat has precious little authority to agree to anything else.
Nonsense. According to Arafat, Israel must be destroyed. He
has never come clean and denied that this is his plan. He always
waffles on what he means.
``When the Arabs set off their volcano, there will only be Arabs in
this part of the world. Our people will continue to fuel the torch
of the revolution with rivers of blood until the whole of the
occupied homeland is liberated...''
--- Yasser Arafat, AP, 3/12/79
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
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9452 | From: kai_h@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Kai Howells)
Subject: Re: HOT NEW 3D Software
Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)
Lines: 20
In article <1qflpk$re1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, mbc@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael B.
Comet) wrote:
>
>
> In a previous article, trb3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Tony R. Boutwell) says:
>
> >There is a new product for the (IBM'ers) out there... it is called
> >IMAGINE and it just started shipping yesterday... I can personally attest that it will blow the doors off of 3D-Studio. It is made by IMPUlSE, and is in its
> >
> Well....I don't know about its competing with 3D studio, but
> it's pretty powerful allright.
Yes but a key issue is _SPEED_ how fast is Imagine? And is it as easy to
use
as 3D Studio? Can it just do a render as fast as 3DS if you don't want
things like IOR etc.. 3DS can do fine shadows, animated reflection maps,
animated bump maps, animated anything maps, and with the IPAS routines
(Not that I've ever seen them) It can do explosions, top quality
morphing, fire, rain, lens flares etc..
I'm not knocking imagine, I just want to know how it compares with 3DS
|
9453 | From: j3david@sms.business.uwo.ca (James David)
Subject: Plus minus stat
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Nntp-Posting-Host: sms.business.uwo.ca
Lines: 26
>Post: 51246 of 51422
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
>From: j3david@sms.business.uwo.ca (James David)
>Subject: Plus minus stat
>Organization: University of Western Ontario
>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 04:42:11 GMT
>Nntp-Posting-Host: sms.business.uwo.ca
>Lines: 165
>I'm not defending Bob Gainey...frankly, I don't care for him all
>that much. But your dismissal of him as something less than an
>effective hockey player is tiresome...it has no basis in
>anything. How many Calders did he win? I think it was four (go
^^^^^^^
Ooops...that should read Selke...forgive me for my insolence.
congenially, as always,
jd
--
James David
j3david@student.business.uwo.ca
j3david@sms.business.uwo.ca (James David)
Western Business School -- London, Ontario
|
9454 | From: kruzifix@netcom.com (Living On The Edge......)
Subject: IMAGINE for PC??
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 8
Is Impulse shipping IMAGINE for the PC386/486? How close is it to the
Amiga's IMAGINE 2.0, in terms of features?
=============================================================================
Roland Chia | >>> Air-Cooled >>>
EMAIL:kruzifix@netcom.com | >>> Free-Falling >>>
VOICE:(209)447-9403 | >>> Carbon Unit >>>
=============================================================================
|
9455 | From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: A WRENCH in the works?
Lines: 31
Nntp-Posting-Host: skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
In article <25228@ksr.com>, jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods) writes:
>nanderso@Endor.sim.es.com (Norman Anderson) writes:
>>jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch) writes:
>>>effect that one of the SSRBs that was recovered after the
>>>recent space shuttle launch was found to have a wrench of
>>>some sort rattling around apparently inside the case.
>>I heard a similar statement in our local news (UTAH) tonight. They referred
>>to the tool as "...the PLIERS that took a ride into space...". They also
>>said that a Thiokol (sp?) employee had reported missing a tool of some kind
>>during assembly of one SRB.
It was a test of the first reusable tool.
>
>I assume, then, that someone at Thiokol put on their "manager's hat" and said
>that pissing off the customer by delaying shipment of the SRB to look inside
>it was a bad idea, regardless of where that tool might have ended up.
>
>Why do I get the feeling that Thiokol "manager's hats" are shaped like cones?
Pointy so they can find them or so they will stick into their pants better, and
be closer to their brains?
--
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TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here) |
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pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com |solutions, not gestures.
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|
9456 | From: kking@cs.uah.edu (Ken King)
Subject: Re: The Kuebelwagen??!!
Reply-To: kking@uahcs2.uah.edu (Ken King)
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - Univ. of Alabama in Huntsville
Lines: 36
In article <C5K5Co.F09@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) writes:
> Sorry for the mis-spelling, but I forgot how to spell it after
>my series of exams and NO-on hand reference here.
>
> Is it still possible to get those cute WWII VW Jeep-wanna-be's?
>A replica would be great I think.
greetings:
you may be in luck. i seem to recall seeing a blurb in one of
the kit car magazines about a company in norway who pulled a
mould (sp?) off a real kubel, and has adapted it to the beetle
floorpan. as for the suspension, all i can remember about the
vw thing i used to own is that it had about 3" more suspension
travel than a stock beetle, but i'd heard that there were after-
market parts for off-road use that were as good or better. note
that the major difference (looks wise) between a kubel & a thing
are the hood and the fenders. the kubel had an external spare
mounted *on* the hood, and the hood sloped down (for visibility?)
sharply, and had rounded fenders. the thing has a lightly sloped
hood with the spare mounted inside (unless moved to make for more
luggage space...) and has half-hexagon shaped fenders (imagine a
nut large enough to put a tire *in*, and cut off the bottom half
of it...).
unfortunately, i don't have that info anymore. try stopping
at a local bookstore and copying down the phone numbers for the
two big mag's and calling them. they might be able to get the
number for you (don't forget to calculate the time difference to
norway before calling...).
later,
kc
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.---==== ( o ) ====---. | this Klingon off my *ss! | <std/disclaimer.h>
/ ~~~~~~~~~~~ \ | Damn it, Jim, I'm a |
() kking@cs.uah.edu () | doctor, not a bidet! :) |
|
9457 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: A KIND and LOVING God!!
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 25
In article <1993Apr19.165717.25790@ra.royalroads.ca>,
mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) wrote:
>
> It is true what you stated above: Jesus' saving grace is available to
> everyone, not just Jews. In other words, everyone can have salvation but
> not everyone will. This option is now open to people other than just
> Jews. Of course, if the Jews don't accept the deity of Christ, I would
> hardly expect them to accept anything that Christ said. But I don't feel
> any animosity towards them. Even though they persecuted Jesus and his
> disciples and eventually crucified Him, I bear them no ill will. If anything,
> I feel pity for them. Jesus had to die to pay the price for our sins and
> so the Jews were merely fulfilling prophesy. Jesus knew He had to die even
> before He began His ministry. That demonstrates the great depth of His love
> for us.
Jesus certainly demonstrated the great depth of his love for the
children who died today at the Davidian complex.
Sorry, but the events today made me even more negative concering
organized religion.
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
|
9458 | From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (HJ Lu)
Subject: Re: Booting from B drive
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Lines: 17
In article <1993Apr18.185226.27273@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, yee@nimios.eng.mcmaster.ca (Paul Yee) writes:
|> In article <khan0095.735001731@nova> khan0095@nova.gmi.edu (Mohammad Razi Khan) writes:
|> >glang@slee01.srl.ford.com (Gordon Lang) writes:
|> >
|> >>David Weisberger (djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
|> >>: I have a 5 1/4" drive as drive A. How can I make the system boot from
|> >>: my 3 1/2" B drive?
|>
|> [intermediate reply suggesting cable switch deleted]
|>
I heard boot_b.zip could do exactly what you wanted without touching
anything. Check it out with archie.
H.J.
|
9459 | From: VANDAMME@NMR.RUG.AC.BE
Subject: XmScale & XtAddEventHandler
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 29
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Dear Xperts,
I'm developing an application that uses a Motif slider to select
an image file out of a directory. Now I would like to display the
name of the file corresponding to the value of the dragged scale
button (i.e. with the MB1 pressed). As XmNshowValue only displays
the current value of the scale button and not the actual corresponding
image file name, I thought of using an XtAddEventHandler to do
the mapping between the scale value and the file name:
XtAddEventHandler(scaleImage,Button1MotionMask, FALSE, SliderMoved, NULL);
and in the eventhandler do a:
while (XCheckTypedWindowEvent (display, event->window, MotionNotify, &Return))
;
XmScaleGetValue(scaleImage,&value);
/*map value to file entry in directory and finally obtain file name to open*/
However, when I move the pointer in the scale widget I get callbacks, with of co
urse
a null effect as my MB1 is not pressed to move the scale button. So what is goin
g wrong?
Or is the a wrong approach to this problem?
Any hints are highly appreciated.
---
Phil
|
9460 | Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
From: Jay Lorenzana <U40348@uicvm.uic.edu>
Subject: Eagle Talon TSi--LEMON?
Lines: 22
Dear Netters:
I am looking to buy a used Eagle Talon '91 or '91 TSi AWD.
Question is that the '91 TSi AWD was mentioned in the
April Consumer Reports to a car to avoid!
In particular, the manual transmission, electrical system,
and brakes were below par (in both models). A friend of mine
ownes a '90 TSi AWD and he has had 2 brake jobs (pads), one
stuck valve, and some clutch/transmission problem, something
about sticking/grinding into second gear. This doesn't seem
too bad if one "beats" on his car.
I am willing to suffer reliability--for speed and looks. Seems
you have to pay big buck if you want all three. Anyway can
anyone please let me know how you like your Talon, and any
problems you may have had, and if the repairs are worth it.
Thanks for any responses!
-Jay
|
9461 | From: chloupek@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: NC vs Hunt (Marine Gay Bashing in Wilmington NC) verdict
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics
Lines: 27
In article <mattm-140493165729@mcmelmon.apple.com>, mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>
> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I was under the impression that the Marines
> in question invited Clinton down for the same treatment. While a
> bar fight is a bar fight, threatening the Commander in Chief seems
> a rather unprofessional thing for a professional soldier to do...
>
>
Also, it appears that two of the three Marines have some sort of charges
pending against them from another fight they were in a week before.
Interesting.
Frank
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Frank R. Chloupek
CHLOUPEK@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Department of Physics -- *The* Ohio State University
(Not just any Ohio State University)
"There is only one hard-and-fast rule about the place to have a party:
somebody else's place."
--P.J. O'Rourke
|
9462 | From: stssdxb@st.unocal.com (Dorin Baru)
Subject: Re: Deriving Pleasure from Death
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Lines: 26
Peter Garfiel Freeman writes:
>>them. (By the way, I do not applaud the killing of _any_ human being,
>>including prisoners sentenced to death by our illustrious justice department)
>>
>>Peace.
>>-marc
>Boy, you really are a stupid person. Our justice department does
>not sentence people to death. That's up to state courts. Again,
>get a brain.
Peter, I think you are ridiculous here. Stupidity is not a measure of how
well someone knows our judicial system. I guess Marc meant that he is
against death penalty. But no matter what he meant, your statement not
justified.
Regards,
Dorin
|
9463 | From: gwh@soda.berkeley.edu (George William Herbert)
Subject: Re: Moonbase race
Organization: Retro Aerospace
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Summary: Hmm...
Hmm. $1 billion, lesse... I can probably launch 100 tons to LEO at
$200 million, in five years, which gives about 20 tons to the lunar
surface one-way. Say five tons of that is a return vehicle and its
fuel, a bigger Mercury or something (might get that as low as two
tons), leaving fifteen tons for a one-man habitat and a year's supplies?
Gee, with that sort of mass margins I can build the systems off
the shelf for about another hundred million tops. That leaves
about $700 million profit. I like this idea 8-) Let's see
if you guys can push someone to make it happen 8-) 8-)
[slightly seriously]
-george william herbert
Retro Aerospace
|
9464 | From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: eXpEn$iVe MOTOROLA Handheld Radio For Peanuts!
Nntp-Posting-Host: smassimini-mac.mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Lines: 30
Agent_X writes:
> I can no longer use anything japanese. Kenwood, Yeasu, Icom, Alinco, its
> ALL JUNK.
^^^^^^^^
Well, I'm not sure I'd go quite that far, but I agree that Motorola
gear is of better quality. The question is how much that quality
is worth to a ham in amateur service, not commercial service
>This radio can hear a repeater thats 40 miles away without
> an antenna.
Ok, great. But how often does that come up? How good is
"good enough", and how much is someone willing to pay for it?
A good ham-quality HT is maybe $500, while a commercial
quality one is maybe $2000. Is the increased reliability and
performance worth 4 times the price *in amateur service*?
Only the individual involved can answer that question, and each
ham has to decide for him/herself. If Motorola quality is worth
4 times the price to you, then more power to ya'. But I'm amazed
that folks make that choice. For, me, given that I've got $2000 to
spend, I'l pick the Yaesu ht and a nice new HF rig every time over
a Motorola ht alone, no matter how good it is. To me, ham-quality
gear is "good enough". To each his own...
73... Mike, N4PDY
******************************
* These are my opinions only.*
******************************
|
9465 | From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
Subject: Re: This year's biggest and worst (opinion)...
Organization: AT&T
Keywords: NHL, awards
Lines: 34
In article <1993Apr5.221541.28537@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
> In article <C4zCII.Ftn@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> smale@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (Bryan Smale) writes:
> >
> > Team Biggest Biggest
> >Team: MVP: Surprise: Disappointment:
> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Philadelphia Flyers Lindros/Recchi Fedyk/Galley Eklund
>
> Fence-sitting...look at Philly's record with Eric and without...
> there is no doubt. Soderstrom is probably the biggest surprise.
Re Eric: True, but fortunately we didn't get to find out what they would be
like without Recchi for 30 games.
Soderstrom: Absolutely. 4 shutouts in 39 games for a rookie without a lot
of defense in front of him. Runnerups to Galley and Fedyk who are scoring
a ton over their career best. But Galley thinks he's Paul Coffey (puts scoring
ahead of defending) and Fedyk has tailed off big time.
Eklund: Was a big question mark this year and was coming off injuries. 42
points in 49 games is not bad at all, and recently he's been a huge factor
in the wins they've gotten. Eklund has never had a point a game season in
his career, his production is very typical for him. How does he qualify as
a disappointment? If anything he's a surprise.
My choice would be Roussel if I went strictly by what was expected of players,
but I never thought that he had what it takes to be a #1 goalie. My biggest
disappointment is Bill Dineen. I thought that he was going to be the perfect
coach for this young team, instead he's made too many bad moves and IMHO
has cost them enough games to keep them out of the playoffs this year. Any
coach that thinks putting Eric Lindros at the point on power plays is a
bright idea needs to go back to coaching school.
pete clark jr - rsh FLYERS contact and mailing list owner
|
9466 | From: mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: Two stooges
Reply-To: mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
Organization: IBM AIX/ESA Development, Kingston NY
Lines: 9
Well, the Red Sox have apparenly resigned Herm Winningham to a AAA contract.
Ted "Larry" Simmons signed him to a AAA contract then released him from
Buffalo, allowing Lou "Curly" Gorman to circumvent the rule about not
resigning free agents until May 1. Clearly, neither of these guys is bright
enough to be Moe.
Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
Make it right before you make it faster.
|
9467 | From: gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Automatic online encryption of data
Lines: 46
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
>Also.. how about a box that you plug your phone into, which would allow
>encrypted voice communications with someone who has a similar box?
>(digitizing input speech, transmitting, and decrypting on the other end). I
>don't know how a public-key system could work in this regard, but it might
[...]
heh heh... I posted this just before reading all the Clinton Chip messages..
I guess they beat me to it.. Anyway, I think it would be a great idea to
develop such a product, perhaps in the underground, as it would otherwise
probably become illegal pretty quickly here...
It's really very feasible and shouldn't be too expensive - all that's needed
is a box with a phone jack on one side, a DSP in the middle to do codec
functions of speech->compressed bytestream, and an RS232 on the other side.
You'd plug your phone into it, plug the RS232 into your computer, and have
a good old fashioned normal modem on your other RS232 port. The CPU in the
middle would do the encryption with a version of pgp modified to work on
a byte stream.
With v32bis or better modems to carry the bytestream, it should work.
Quality would only be marginally lower than a normal telephone.
At the very highest price, you could use one of those voice-mail compatible
modems to do the digitisation - that puts an upper bound of about $500 on
the cost of such a box. In practice, you really ought to be able to get
the price well below $100 - I could do it now in software on my cheap&nasty
home RISC box (Acorn Archimedes) with the digitising microphone I bought
for 25 pounds, if I knew how to write good speech compression software
(which I don't).
The reason it won't work of course is that hardly anyone will have one -
the only consumer equipment to have encryption will use the wiretap chip.
Economics, I'm afraid.
However... we can get about 2Kcps throughput on the internet even with
the bottleneck of a v32bis modem. When we get ISDN for all (ha ha ha)
and the new NREN, it might then be trivial to run compressed speech
over a tcp/ip connection on the Internet. Perhaps we should start
thinking now of a standard to keep voice on the internet compatible
for everyone, and side-step the clipper stuff and use internet for
all our phone calls in future :-) [1/2 joking]
G
|
9468 | From: winfrvk@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (R.v.Kampen)
Subject: Re: FD controller question
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr11.045019.22221@nwnexus.WA.COM> paulf@halcyon.com (Marlboro Man) writes:
>I am looking for a way to access the floppy drive at the I/O level, that
>is, lower than the BIOS. Given the port assignments, what controller
>chip/spec sheet do I need info on? My floppy is a 1.44M, and I would
>also like to be able to write code that works on 360K disks as well.
>Also, with the method of access, is it possible to actually read the
>individual bytes on the track as they stream into the controller? I'm
>afraid the sector handling is done purely through hardware.
>
>If on the off chance I can get this basic on the access, anything to
>point me in the right direction would help a lot.
>
there is a file out there (look for it with archie) that is called
'theref22.zip' which has lots of info on various PC things,
amongst which is also a detailed description of all Floppy controller
commands, I think hard drive controller commands are not there.
it is possible to read an entire track including all gaps, sector
headers etc. by setting sector size to something very large (like
8K).
willem
|
9469 | From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis)
Subject: help: object appears thrice!
Summary: after editing win.ini [embedding..], and leaving only 1 entry
Organization: George Washington University
Lines: 40
Hey all...I got an equation editor, and since it didn't automagically
appear in my "object" dialog box (i.e. insert-->object-->equation), I
decided to manually place it there. So I went into win.ini (is there
another way to do this?), the [embedding] section, and added
equation=equation,equation,<path\filename>,picture.
didn't work.
quit windows, go back. AHA: mistake. Correct it. It looks fine.
start windows...doesn't work. play with it for a while, at one point
having two entries to see if one works and th'other don't, and finally I
get it to work. The only thing I can see that's different now is that
it's now the first item on the list, and it used to be the last. But
now I end up with *three* "equation" entried, and *all* of them working.
(and only one entry in win.ini).
so does any netian know what's wrong? or rather, how to correct this?
(i.e. make "equation"appear but once?).
Also, all the entries in the [embedding] appear as above.
It's obvious that <path\filename> is the executable, or whatever, and
"picture" has something to do withthe way it appears
(picture/description?)
but what are the others?
i.e., in
soundrec=sound,sound,
whate's the difference between the 1st "sound" and the 2nd?
and what is "soundrec"?? (I don't think it's the name of the executable,
as other entries (e.g. MSWorksChart=...) aren't)
thanks, i.a.
Mickey
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|
9470 | From: drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand)
Subject: Re: chronic sinus and antibiotics
In-Reply-To: DEHP@calvin.edu's message of Fri, 16 Apr 1993 18:12:14 GMT
Organization: Open Software Foundation
<1qk708INNa12@mojo.eng.umd.edu> <DEHP.117@calvin.edu>
Distribution: na
Lines: 29
In article <DEHP.117@calvin.edu> DEHP@calvin.edu (Phil de Haan) writes:
In article <1qk708INNa12@mojo.eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>You can also swab the inside of your nose with Bacitracin using a
>Q tip. Bacitracin is an antibiotic that can be bought OTC as an
>ointment in a tube. The doctor I listen to on the radio says to apply
>it for 30 days, while you are taking other antibiotics by mouth.
I have a new doctor who gave me a prescription today for something called
Septra DS. He said it may cause GI problems and I have a sensitive stomach
to begin with. Anybody ever taken this antibiotic. Any good? Suggestions
for avoiding an upset stomach? Other tips?
I've taken Septra. My daughter has taken it many times for ear
infections. It works sometimes. It is a sulfa drug. About the only
problem I found was that I'm sensitive and developed a rash after nine
days of a ten day course. No more Septra for me. My doctor was
remiss in not telling me to watch out for a rash. I was quite in the
dark and didn't realize that it could be a drug reaction. No harm
done though.
Doug
--
Douglas S. Rand <drand@osf.org> OSF/Motif Dev.
Snail: 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142
Disclaimer: I don't know if OSF agrees with me... let's vote on it.
Amateur Radio: KC1KJ
|
9471 | From: matt@centerline.com (Matt Landau)
Subject: Re: Asynchronous X Windows?
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Lines: 45
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.1.32
In <ellis.735675321@nova> ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) writes:
>>Is there anyway to use X Windows over an async line? Clearly you could use
> x
>It is X window.
No, it isn't. It is the "X Window System", or "X11", or "X" or any of
a number of other designations accepted by the X Consortium. In fact,
doing "man X" on pretty much any X11 machine will tell you:
The X Consortium requests that the following names be used
when referring to this software:
X
X Window System
X Version 11
X Window System, Version 11
X11
There is no such thing as "X Windows" or "X Window", despite the repeated
misuse of the forms by the trade rags. This probably tells you something
about how much to trust the trade rags -- if they can't even get the NAME
of the window system right, why should one trust anything else they have
to say?
With regard to dialup X11 implementations, there are several. You can
buy serial X11 terminals from a couple of companies, including both
GraphOn and NCD. (In fact, I'm composing this from an NCD running X11
over serial lines across 14.4 kbaud connection.)
NCD also sells a software-only package that provides XRemote (which is
NCD's implementation of serial X11) for PC's. There may be other such
software packages available.
X11R6 is supposed to include a standardized compression scheme for running
X11 over low-speed connections. It's called Low Bandwidth X (LBX), and
is based on improved versions of the techniques used in NCD's XRemote.
It seems likely that once LBX is released as a Consortium standard, there
will be several vendors willing to supply implementations for various
sorts of hardware.
Followups directed to comp.windows.x
--
Matt Landau Waiting for a flash of enlightenment
matt@centerline.com in all this blood and thunder
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9472 | From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
Subject: Re: Yeah, Right
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Lines: 54
In article <66014@mimsy.umd.edu>
mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate) writes:
>>And what about that revelation thing, Charley?
>
>If you're talking about this intellectual engagement of revelation, well,
>it's obviously a risk one takes.
>
I see, it is not rational, but it is intellectual. Does madness qualify
as intellectual engagement, too?
>>Many people say that the concept of metaphysical and religious knowledge
>>is contradictive.
>
>I'm not an objectivist, so I'm not particularly impressed with problems of
>conceptualization. The problem in this case is at least as bad as that of
>trying to explain quantum mechanics and relativity in the terms of ordinary
>experience. One can get some rough understanding, but the language is, from
>the perspective of ordinary phenomena, inconsistent, and from the
>perspective of what's being described, rather inexact (to be charitable).
>
Exactly why science uses mathematics. QM representation in natural language
is not supposed to replace the elaborate representation in mathematical
terminology. Nor is it supposed to be the truth, as opposed to the
representation of gods or religions in ordinary language. Admittedly,
not every religion says so, but a fancy side effect of their inept
representations are the eternal hassles between religions.
And QM allows for making experiments that will lead to results that will
be agreed upon as being similar. Show me something similar in religion.
>An analogous situation (supposedly) obtains in metaphysics; the problem is
>that the "better" descriptive language is not available.
>
With the effect that the models presented are useless. And one can argue
that the other way around, namely that the only reason metaphysics still
flourish is because it makes no statements that can be verified or falsified -
showing that it is bogus.
>>And in case it holds reliable information, can you show how you establish
>>that?
>
>This word "reliable" is essentially meaningless in the context-- unless you
>can show how reliability can be determined.
Haven't you read the many posts about what reliability is and how it can
be acheived respectively determined?
Benedikt
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9473 | From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: How to the disks copy protected.
Originator: sehari@marge.ecss.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
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---
I was wondering, what copy protection techniques are avaliable, and how
effective are they? Has anyone have any experience in this area?
With highest regards,
Babak Sehari.
--
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9474 | From: salaris@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrabbits)
Subject: Re: Hell_2: Black Sabbath
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
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In article <Apr.22.00.57.03.1993.2118@geneva.rutgers.edu>, jprzybyl@skidmore.edu (jennifer przybylinski) writes:
> Hey...
>
> I may be wrong, but wasn't Jeff Fenholt part of Black Sabbath? He's a
> MAJOR brother in Christ now. He totally changed his life around, and
> he and his wife go on tours singing, witnessing, and spreading the
> gospel for Christ. I may be wrong about Black Sabbath, but I know he
> was in a similar band if it wasn't that particular group...
>
Jeff Fenholt claims to have once been a roadie for Black Sabbath.
He was never ever a musician in the band. He was in St. Louis several
months back. The poster I saw at the Christian bookstore I frequent
really turned me off. It was addressed to all "Homosexuals, prostitutes,
drug addicts, alcoholics, and headbangers..." or something like that.
Well, if I showed up with my long hair and black leather jacket I
would have felt a little pre-judged. As a Orthodox Christian, and
a "headbanger" I was slightly insulted at being lumped together with
drug addicts and alcoholics. Oh yes, I suppose since I drink a good
German beer now and then that makes me an alcoholic. NOT!
--
Steven C. Salaris We're...a lot more dangerous than 2 Live Crew
salaris@carcs1.wustl.edu and their stupid use of foul language because
we have ideas. We have a philosophy.
Geoff Tate -- Queensryche
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9475 | From: psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss)
Subject: 6 Apr 93 God's Promise in John 16:24
Organization: University at Buffalo
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Hitherto have ye asked nothing
in my name:
ask, and ye shall receive,
that your joy may be full.
John 16:24
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9476 | From: joslin@pogo.isp.pitt.edu (David Joslin)
Subject: Re: Silence is concurance
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intelligent Systems Program
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For those missing the context of this thrilling discussion between
Jim and I, Jim wrote the following to me in e-mail after I pointed out
that he (Jim) had taken a quote out of context:
>In t.r.m. Robert Weiss writes [a promise from Psalm 9:10]
>Gee, since you wouldn't be at all hypocritical, you must be really
>busy arguing against these out-of-context extracted translations!
He directed a similar accusation of hypocrisy, again based on a lack of
response to an article by Robert Weiss, toward Stephen.
I pointed out that I did, in fact, agree that both Robert Weiss and
Jim Meritt took quotes out of context. Hence, I find it difficult to
understand why Jim thinks I am a hypocrite. Needless to say, I don't
have time to reply to *every* article on t.r.m. that takes a quote
out of context.
I asked Jim the following:
>}So, according to you, Jim, the only way to criticize one person for
>}taking a quote out of context, without being a hypocrite, is to post a
>}response to *every* person on t.r.m who takes a quote out of context?
Jim replied by saying
>Did I either ask or assert that?
But today we find four articles from Jim, one of which has the subject
"Silence is concurrence":
m23364@mwunix.mitre.org (James Meritt) writes:
>Is it not the case that, in the eyes of the law, when someone is aware of
>something and has the capability of taking action and does not, that individual
>may be held responsible for that action?
Which is, of course, a complete red herring. Taking quotes out of
context isn't a crime. I don't have time to read every article on
t.r.m., and I'm certainly under no obligation to reply to them all.
Does "silence is concurrence" imply that Jim thinks that because I
didn't respond to Weiss' articles I must condone Weiss' taking quotes
out of context? Jim doesn't want to give a direct answer to this
question; read what he has written and decide for yourself.
But back to the context of my conversation with Jim. Jim's next
gambit was to claim that he was using inductive logic when he
concluded that I was being a hypocrite. I challenged him to provide
the details of that logic that led him to an incorrect conclusion.
Today we find another obscure article (posting it twice didn't help
make it more clear, Jim), titled "Inductive Logic":
>Scenario:
>A white goose waddles past the door
>A white goose waddles past the door
>A white goose waddles past the door
>...( repeat an uncountably large number of times)...
>A black goose waddles past the door. An individual hits it with an axe.
>
>1. Given that the population of geese is uncountably large, and the size of the
> confidence interval for the decision is undetermined, under what conditions
> could a decision upon the behavior of the individual towards white geese
> be made?
>
>2. If ONLY black geese are observed to be axed, is it not a valid question
> to be concerned with the different behavior between black and white geese?
More red herrings. Could Jim mean that he has read an uncountably large
number of my articles? Could Jim mean that because I "axed" his articles,
but not Weiss' articles, he wants to conclude inductively ...
Well, I can't see where he is going with this.
But I can help him with his induction. I've written roughly 80
articles since January. The vast majority of them are discussions with
Frank DeCenso and other inerrantists, where I take the position that
they are making bad arguments. Some are discussions with Jim Meritt
where I take the position that he is making bad arguments (a straw man
argument earlier, and taking quotes out of context more recently.)
Think hard about this Jim. See the pattern? Think harder. Run it
through your induction engine and see what pops out.
dj
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9477 | From: Daniel Salber <salber@imag.fr>
Subject: Quadras VRAM Question
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Hi there,
I have a question regarding Quadras VRAM. I have tried to find info on this
but I could not get precise answers.
On one hand, we have a Quadra 950 with a 16" monitor, which is capable of
32-bit color. How much VRAM does it have?
On the other hand, we have a Quadra 800 with a 16" monitor, which is capable
of 8-bit color only, so it must have 512 Ko of VRAM.
I would like to take VRAM SIMMs for the 950 and put them in the 800 so that
both machines have 16-bit color capability.
Is it possible, and if yes, how many VRAM SIMMs should I take from the 950?
From the documentation I have, the Quadra 800 must get 1 Mo VRAM to have
16-bit color, is that correct?
Bonus question: where do VRAM SIMMs hide? From the 950 documentation, they
seem to be *behind* the power supply. Do I really have to take off the power
supply to access the VRAM SIMMs?
Thanks for your help!
--
Daniel Salber, User Interface Research Team, LGI-IMAG, Grenoble, France.
salber@imag.fr
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9478 | From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke)
Subject: Re: Life on Mars???
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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In article <C5uB2s.FD@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes...
>In article <1993Apr20.120311.1@pa881a.inland.com> schiewer@pa881a.inland.com (Don Schiewer) writes:
>There are currently no particular plans to do any further searches for life.
Not quite true. One of the instruments on Mars Observer will be searching
for potential fossil sites.
>>Are we going back to Mars to look at this face agian?
>
>Mars Observer, currently approaching Mars, will probably try to get a better
>image or two of the "face" at some point. It's not high priority; nobody
>takes it very seriously. The shadowed half of the face does not look very
>face-like, so all it will take is one shot at a different sun angle to ruin
>the illusion.
The face and the Viking landing sites will be targeted by the high-resolution
camera on Mars Observer.
___ _____ ___
/_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
| | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab |
___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand
/___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and
|_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.
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9479 | From: koberg@spot.Colorado.EDU (Allen Koberg)
Subject: Re: SATANIC TOUNGES
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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In article <May.6.00.34.49.1993.15418@geneva.rutgers.edu> marka@hcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Mark Ashley) writes:
>In article <May.2.09.50.21.1993.11782@geneva.rutgers.edu> mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>>I have seen the claims, but I don't know if there are any
>>authenticated cases of people making prolonged speeches in
>>real languages they don't know. From my observations, "speaking
>>in tongues" in practice has nothing at all do with this.
>
>I have a simple test. I take several people who can speak
>only one language (e.g. chinese, russian, german, english).
>Then I let the "gifted one" start "speaking in toungues".
>The audience should understand the "gifted one" clearly
>in their native language. However, the "gifted one" can
>only hear himself speaking in his own language.
>
There seem to be many points to the speaking in tongues thing which
are problematic. It's use as prayer language seems especially troubling
to me. I understand that when you pray in tongues, the spirit is doing
the talking. And when you pray, you pray to God. And the Spirit is
God. So, the Spirit is talking to Himself. Which is why I only go
by the Pentecost use where it's an actual language.
Moreover, the phrase "though I speak with the tongues of men and angels"
used by Paul in I Cor. is misleading out of context. Some would then
assume that there is some angelic tongue, and if when they speak, it
is no KNOWN language, then it is an angelic tongue.
Hmmm...in the old testament story about the tower of Babel, we see how
God PUNISHED by giving us different language. Can we assume then that
if angels have their own language at all, that they have the SAME one
amongst other angels? After all, THEY were not punished in any manner.
So why do these supposed angelic tongues all sound different FROM ONE
ANOTHER? It's disturbing to think that some people find ways to
justify jabbering.
But I'll buy the idea that someone could talk in a language never learned.
Trouble is, while such stories abound, any and all attempts at
verification (and we are to test the spirit...) either show that
the witness had no real idea of the circumstances, or that outright
fabrication was involved. The Brother Puka story in a previous post
seems like a "friend of a friend" thing. And linguistically, a two
syllable word hardly qualifies as language, inflection or no.
Much as many faith healers have trouble proving their "victories" (since
most ailments "cured" are just plain unprovable) and modern day
ressurrections have never been validated, so is it true that no
modern day xenoglossolalia has been proved by clergy OR lay.
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9480 | From: hl00@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (HOU-SHENG LIN)
Subject: Laser vs Bubblejet?
Organization: Lehigh University
Lines: 12
Well, I'm not too sure if this would be the right place to post this, but
anyway, here goes: I was just noticing that some of the current bubblejet
printers offers up to 360x360 resolution while a lot of lower end laser
printers only offer 300x300. However, the laser printers still seems to be
significantly pricier than the bubblejets... how is this? Or am I missing
something about the resolution thing?
--
-Sheng
hl00@pl122.eecs.lehigh.edu
hl00@m180k.cc.lehigh.edu
hl00@lehigh.edu
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9481 | From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Fat Boy versus ZX-11 (new math)
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In article <1pimfd$cre@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes:
>In article <C4v3s7.MCz@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>>In <1993Apr1.130432.11009@bnr.ca> npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:
>>>Manual Velcro, on the 31 Mar 93 09:19:29 +0200 wibbled:
>>>: But 14 is greater than 11, or 180 is greater than 120, or ...
>>>No! 10 is the best of all.
>>No No No!
>> It should be obvious that 8 is the best number by far. Last year 10
>>was hot but with the improvements to 8 this year there can be no
>>question.
>
>Hell, my Dad used to have an old 5 that would beat out today's 8 without
>breaking a sweat.
>
>(Well, in the twisties, anyway.)
>
>This year's 8 is just too cumbersome for practical use in anything other
>than repeating decimals.
>
Remember the good old days, when Hexadecimals, and even Binaries
were still legal? Sure, they smoked a little blue stuff out the
pipes, but I had a hex 7 that could slaughter any decimal 10 on
the road. Sigh, such nostalgia!
Regards, Charles
DoD0,001
RZ350
--
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
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9482 | From: C599143@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Matthew Q Keeler de la Mancha)
Subject: Infant Immune Development Question
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As an animal science student, I know that a number of animals transfer
immunoglobin to thier young through thier milk. In fact, a calf _must_
have a sufficient amount of colostrum (early milk) within 12 hours to
effectively develop the immune system, since for the first (less than)
24 hours the intestines are "open" to the IG passage. My question is,
does this apply to human infants to any degree?
Thanks for your time responding,
Matthew Keeler
c599143@mizzou1.missouri.edu
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9483 | From: hathaway@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Vandalizing the sky.
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Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
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>Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space
>Subject: Re: Vandalizing the sky.
>
(excerpts from posting on this topic)
>In article <C5t05K.DB6@research.canon.oz.au> enzo@research.canon.oz.au
>(Enzo Liguori) writes:
>
>>Now, Space Marketing
>>is working with University of Colorado and Livermore engineers on
>>a plan to place a mile-long inflatable billboard in low-earth
>>orbit.
>...
>>... the real purpose of the project is to help the environment!
>>The platform will carry ozone monitors
>
>...
>I can't believe that a mile-long billboard would have any significant
>effect on the overall sky brightness. Venus is visible during the day,
>but nobody complains about that. Besides, it's in LEO, so it would only
>be visible during twilight when the sky is already bright, and even if
>it would have some miniscule impact, it would be only for a short time
>as it goes zipping across the sky.
>
(I've seen satellites at midnight - they're not only in twilight.) :o)
>...
>
>From the book "Prodigal Genius: The Life of Nikola Tesla" by John J. O'Neill:
>
>"This remarkable conductivity of gases, including the air, at low
>pressures, led Tesla to suggest, in a published statement in 1914, a
>system of lighting on a terrestrial scale in which he proposed to treat
>the whole Earth, with its surrounding atmosphere, as if it were a
>single lamp....
>The whole Earth would be transformed into a giant lamp, with the night
>sky completely illuminated. ... making the night as bright as day."
>
Now my comments:
I'd like to add that some of the "protests" do not come from a strictly
practical consideration of what pollution levels are acceptable for
research activities by professional astronomers. Some of what I
would complain about is rooted in aesthetics. Many readers may
never have known a time where the heavens were pristine - sacred -
unsullied by the actions of humans. The space between the stars
as profoundly black as an abyss can be. With full horizons and
a pure sky one could look out upon half of all creation at a time
- none of which had any connection with the petty matters of man.
Any lights were supplied solely by nature; uncorruptable by men.
Whole religions were based on mortal man somehow getting up there
and becoming immortal as the stars, whether by apotheosis or a belief
in an afterlife.
The Space Age changed all that. The effect of the first Sputniks
and Echo, etc. on this view could only happen once. To see a light
crossing the night sky and know it was put there by us puny people
is still impressive and the sense of size one gets by assimilating
the scales involved is also awesome - even if the few hundreds or
thousands of miles involved is still dwarfed by the rest of the universe.
But there is still a hunger for the pure beauty of a virgin sky.
Yes, I know aircraft are almost always in sight. I have to live
in a very populated area (6 miles from an international airport
currently) where light pollution on the ground is ghastly. The
impact of humans is so extreme here - virtually no place exists
that has not been shaped, sculpted, modified, trashed or whipped
into shape by the hands of man. In some places the only life
forms larger than bacteria are humans, cockroaches, and squirrels
(or rats). I visited some friends up in the Appalacian mountains
one weekend, "getting away from it all" (paved roads, indoor plumbing,
malls, ...) and it felt good for a while - then I quickly noticed
the hollow was directly under the main flight path into Dulles - 60-80
miles to the east. (Their 'security light' didn't help matters
much either.) But I've heard the artic wilderness gets lots of
high air traffic. So I know the skies are rarely perfect.
But there is still this desire to see a place that man hasn't
fouled in some way. (I mean they've been TRYING this forever -
like, concerning Tesla's idea to banish night, - wow!) I don't watch
commercial television, but I can imagine just how disgusting beer,
truck, or hemmorrhoid ointment advertisements would be if seen up so high.
If ya' gotta make a buck on it (displaying products in heaven), at
least consider the reactions from those for whom the sky is a last
beautiful refuge from the baseness of modern life.
To be open about this though, I have here my listing of the passage
of HST in the evening sky for this weekend - tonight Friday at
8:25 p.m. EDT it will reach an altitude of 20.1 degrees on the
local meridian from Baltimore vicinity. I'll be trying to see it
if I can - it _is_ my mealticket after all. So I suppose I could
be called an elitist for supporting this intrusion on the night sky
while complaining about billboards proposed by others. Be that
as it may, I think my point about a desire for beauty is valid,
even if it can't ever be perfectly achieved.
Regards,
Wm. Hathaway
Baltimore MD
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9484 | From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: Re: ringing ears
Keywords: ringing ears, sleep, depression
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In article <10893@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM> jfare@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Jim Fare) writes:
>
>
>A friend of mine has a trouble with her ears ringing. The ringing is so loud
>that she has great difficulty sleeping at night. She says that she hasn't
>had a normal night's sleep in about 6 months (she looks like it too :-().
>This is making her depressed so her doctor has put her on anti-depressants.
Sometimes I have a problem with doctor's prescribing medicine like
this. I of course don't know the exact situation, and
anti-depressants may work, but it isn't helping the ringing at all, is it?
>The ringing started rather suddenly about 6 months ago. She is quickly losing
>sleep, social life and sanity over this.
Mine started about three years back. Turns out I have tinnitus
bilateral (translation: ringing in both ears, basically ;). If this
is what it is, she'll probably get used to it. It would keep me up
and drive me nuts too, but nowadays, I have to plug both my ears with
my fingers to check to see if they are ringing. Usually they are, but
you get so used to it, it just gets tuned out. Yes, this is what I've
read about it... not just from my own personal experience.
>Does anyone know of any treatments for this? Any experience? Coping
>mechanisms? Any opinions on the anti-depressant drugs?
Millions have it, according to my physician. You just learn to cope
with it (like I mentioned earlier) by ignoring it. It eventually
becomes unconscious.
The doc also said it could be caused by diet (ie: too much caffeine)
and stress, but I haven't changed my lifestyle much, and it just comes
and goes (it is always there somewhat, but now I rarely notice it when
it really "kicks in").
Also, it doesn't necessarily mean there is any hearing loss, either
caused by it or causing it. I had an ENT (ear/nose/throat) exam, and
passed. In fact, my hearing is quite good considering I don't take as
good of care of my hearing as I should.
Her reaction is normal. If it is tinnitus, chances are good she'll
begin to not even notice it.
This info is taken mostly from a few "experts", my own experience, and
some readings (sorry, it was a few years back and don't have any
specifics handy).
JT
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9485 | From: jason@ab20.larc.nasa.gov (Jason Austin)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Comments Overheard in the Secret Service Lounge
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
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In-reply-to: popec@unkaphaed.jpunix.com's message of Tue, 06 Apr 93 02:29:13 GMT
In article <eZ0J2B3w165w@unkaphaed.jpunix.com> popec@unkaphaed.jpunix.com (William C. Barwell) writes:
-> croaker@highlite.uucp (Francis A. Ney) writes:
->
-> > Besides which, we don't *want* Clinton assasinated, because that would make h
-> > a martyr a la JFK.
-> >
-> > It's a much better deal to have him end his term of office in disgrace, after
-> > watching all his liberal democrat friends on his staff run this nation down t
-> > toilet.
-> >
-> > Assuming, of course, that the riots a fortnight from now don't do it for him.
->
->
-> He'd have to go a far ways to run things down as bad as Reagan and Bush
-> did. We didn't have riots but Bush got dumped out on his spotty Behind.
->
->
-> We'll see in 4 years.
->
->
-> Pope Charles Slack in our time!
->
-> ?s
You need to stop watching TV and start reading some history.
--
Jason C. Austin
j.c.austin@larc.nasa.gov
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9486 | From: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: expanding to Europe:Dusseldorf
In-Reply-To: pkortela@snakemail.hut.fi's message of 15 Apr 93 14:47:30 GMT
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In <PKORTELA.93Apr15164732@lk-hp-17.hut.fi> pkortela@snakemail.hut.fi writes:
>
> DEG has many german-born forwards in the team. In fact the majority of players
> are german-born. 1992-93 DEG had 11150 average in 11800 spectator arena.
Interesting! One of our German friends here (Robert?) told me their forwards
were all Canadian-Germans. Perhaps somebody can sort this out for us?
> My Possible-NHL(European league)-site list:
> Switzerland : Berne, Zurich (Lugano and 1-2 others)
OK, "this ain't North America" and so on, but I still doubt that _any_ city
having a pop. of 500,000 and below could support an NHL team. Of course,
Switzerland probably should be judged as one large city because of small
distances between cities but still.
> Germany : Dusseldorf, Cologne, Berlin, Munich (Mannheim, Rosenheim)
Dusseldorf? YES, although the arena is an anachronism (an OPEN wall behind one
of the goals - essentially an outdoor arena!). Cologne's arena only seats about
7,000-8,000, Berlin is about 6,000 and no new facility will be built
unless their Olympic bid is successful. Munich does have an arena.
> Sweden : Stockholm, Gothenburg (Malmo, Gavle)
Malmo is big enough, but they also need a new arena...the current one has
5,000 seats I think.
> Finland : Helsinki (Turku, Tampere)
If we're talking about the NHL, even Helsinki would struggle to make it work.
Turku (despite an excellent arena) and Tampere are nowhere near big enough for
major league hockey.
> Italy : Milan
...Rome and the south are out of the question; this could as well be Africa
to hockey fans. Romans were given the chance to host some WC'94 games but
showed no interest whatsoever. All teams in the Italian league come from Milan
and the smaller cities in the north.
> France : Paris (Chamonix, Ruoen?)
Paris had their own "Volans Francais"(sp) pro team a couple of years ago.
I believe they even made it to the European Club Championship finals
tournament one year, but eventually folded due to lower-than-hoped-for
attendances. The remaining cities seem to be too small to support a minor
sport like hockey.
> Norway : (Oslo)
> Austria : (Vienna, Villach)
> Chech : (Prag)
> Slovakia : (Bratislava)
> Russia : (Moscow, St. Petersburg)
The easter cities lack the money and infrastructure to support pro hockey.
> Great Britain: ?
Perhaps . . . Most European teams will have to be like the Tampa Bay Lightning
anyway; playing in a small 10,000 seat arena, backed by Japanese money, run by
enthusiasts (Phil Esposito), heavy
marketing, fans that have difficulty telling what "icing" means... London has
been mentioned, Sheffield and Birmingham also have large arenas and a new
mega-facility (16,000 seats!) might be built in Bristol in a couple of years.
> Netherlands : ?
No facilities to speak of; their biggest arena (in Eindhoven) seats 2,500
fans for hockey.
>
> Petteri Kortelainen
MARCU$
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9487 | From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: This year's biggest and worst (opinion)...
Keywords: NHL, awards
Article-I.D.: alchemy.1993Apr6.200446.7553
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 33
In article <1993Apr6.170330.12314@is.morgan.com> scairns@fsg.com writes:
>Messier is a joke this year - bad back not withstanding. His play is
>the reason the Rangers will be on the golf course in a couple of weeks.
>Gartner is my choice - the guy works his butt off every game.
>
>Kovalev - no surprise. He's played adequately but as bad defensively
Kovalev is too talented a player to play for Roger Nielson...Roger needs
players who can't think for themselves and can only skate in straight
lines up and down the ice. Dudley and Nielson are the only two coaches
bad enough in the league to take talents like Mogilny and Kovalev and
not know how to turn them into Bure and Selanne.
>as was predicted in preseason. Perhaps he'll pull an Alex Mogilny in
>a couple of years and surprise us then. Zubov wasn't expected to make
>it out of the minors this season and owing to the number of injuries,
>has proved to be a very pleasant surprise.
>
Get Muckler as coach, and Kovalev will look like Mogilny.
The trouble with the Rangers is that Neil Smith went out and got
players like Messier, Kovalev, and Graves who have been schooled in
taking the game to their opponent and attacking, while hiring coaches
who are interested in "rope-a-dope" strategies. If you want the
Roger Nielsons of the world to be your coach you don't go out and
get a Mark Messier, who is an old dog who can't learn new tricks
from a known loser, and you don't waste your draft picks on players
like Kovalev.
Gerald
Gerald
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9488 | From: mvs1@cec2.wustl.edu (Michael Virata Sy)
Subject: Re: Red Wings Goespel...
Nntp-Posting-Host: cec2
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
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Don't forget Paul Ysebaert, ex-Devil. He's a good team player.
Michael Sy
mvs1@cec2.wustl.edu
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9489 | From: Daniel.Prince@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Daniel Prince)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Lines: 12
To: milsh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Alex Milshteyn)
AM> Having said that, i might add, that in MHO, MSG does not enhance
AM> flavor enoughf for me to miss it. When I go to chinese places,
AM> I order food without MSG.
To me, MSG tastes just like a mixture of salt and sugar. I don't
think that is the case with most people. What does it taste like
to you?
... If wishes were horses, we'd all have to wear hip boots!
* Origin: ONE WORLD Los Angeles 310/372-0987 32b (1:102/129.0)
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9490 | From: rwrona@cbnewse.cb.att.com (robert.wrona)
Subject: TOWNHOME for sale in WHEATON
Organization: AT&T
Keywords: townhome, wheaton, sale...
Lines: 47
TOWNHOME FOR SALE IN WHEATON
Briarcliffe Lakes of Wheaton
Just North Of Butterfield Road
Call (708) 682-8222 and ask for Harriet Bode (Prudential Realty)
Description: A very neat, well cared for, low maintenance
starter coach home in very fine condition located on a
cul-de-sac . Just move in.
Rooms:(5+1) - Eat in kitchen (10.3 X 9.2)
- Large master bedroom (12.6 X 12.6)
- Spare Bedroom (12.6 X 10)
- Dining Room (10.9 X 9)
- Living Room (21 X 11.10)
- Utility Room (10 X 5.5)
- 1.25 Baths
Appliances: - Stove(gas), refrigerator and dish washer
- Garage opener
- Washer and Dryer
- Garbage Disposal
- Gas water heater (3 Years Old)
- Central A/C with DIGITAL Thermostat.
Highlights: - Electric Fire Place in living room.
- Sliding glass doors which open up to a patio with a
secluded back yard area.
- Plenty of storage space with patio storage closet and
storage closet in garage.
- New ceiling fan in Dining Room,
- Completely remodeled bathroom (new wallpaper, shower
door, shower tile, etc...)
- Mini blinds for all windows
- Newer carpets (beige) (About 3 Years old)
- One car garage and plenty of guest parking
Association Fees: $105.90 which includes the following:
- Lawn Maintenance
- Snow Removal
- All Exterior building maintenance
Taxes 1992: $1,700
ASKING PRICE OF HOME: $91,900
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9491 | From: swdwan@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Donald Wan)
Subject: $ 80 SVX OIL CHANGE
Organization: University of Waterloo
Lines: 17
My friend brought a subaru SVX recently. I had drove it for couples times and I
think its a great car, esp on snow. However when she took it to a local Subaru
dealer for a oil change, the bill came out to be about 80 dollars. The dealer
told us it is because to change the oil filter on a SVX it is necessary to
disassemble a metal cover under the engine and that took an hour of labour.
At first, we think we are being ripped off so she phone to a dealer in Toronto
but found out the they are charging roughly the same price. So is there any
SVX owner out there that has the same problem ? And if the oil change story is
true, then the engineer of Subaru looks pretty stubid to me. By the way, the car
looks great.
SWD Wan.
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9492 | From: pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger)
Subject: Gross Grosses Out Dodger Fans AGAIN.
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 60
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu
Went to the Dodgers game tonight -- it was cap night.
Astacio pitched ok, but had control trouble all night.
In the first, he walked a batter, balked him to second, then
a single scored the run, with the batter taking second on the
throw home. Another single made the score 2-0 Cards.
Lasorda tried a new line up featuring Butler, Reed, And Piazza
batting third! Darryl and Eric were benched in favor of Snyder
and Webster.
Piazza homered in the first to make the score 2-1 Cards.
The Dodgers tied the game in the second on a two out single
by Offerman.
By the fourth inning, Astacio had already made about 80 pitches, but
the score was still 2-2. The Dodger defense made SEVERAL impressive
plays. Piazza looked GREAT behind the plate, gunning down a runner
trying to steal second, throwing a runner out at first who
had strayed a bit from first base, etc.
Karros also made a spectacular play, keeping a ball from going into
the outfield. The runner on first was so sure that ball was going
through, he just kept running past second. Karros got up and threw
to third and EASILY got the runner at third.
My heart sank in the 7th when Gross got up to warm up in the bullpen.
Astacio was lifted for a pinch hitter, and when Gross entered the game
with the score still 2-2, Dodger fans just KNEW it was over.
Gross was relieving because he stunk on Tuesday, pitching just 2 1/3
innings, forcing Lasorda to use much of his bullpen. The 15 inning
game had the same effect the next night...so only Gross was fresh
given his light work out Tuesday.
Gross lived up to his name. He walked the first batter, gave up a hit
to the second, and walked the bases loaded. After a grounder resulted
in a force at home, Zeile lifted a scoring fly ball to make it
3-2 Cards. Gross paid little attention to the runners, and the next
thing you knew, the Cards had stolen a fourth run. The runner on
first was eventually tagged out in the run down, but the 4th run had
scored long before that.
Meanwhile, the Dodgers mounted little offense after the second inning.
Lee Smith pitched the ninth. He had little trouble getting Karros
and Wallach (does anyone have trouble with Wallach these days?).
Cory Snyder collected his first hit as a Dodger, a single, but
that was all the offense the Dodgers could mount. Smith got his
third straight save against the Dodgers and all I got was my
free Dodger cap and a good look at Piazza. If Piazza keeps this
up all year, he will be a strong candidate for rookie of the year
honors. Though its really early, Karros is already showing signs
of a sophomore jinx year.
The final score...Cardinals 4 runs on 7 hits.
Dodgers 2 runs on 7 hits.
Dodger
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9493 | From: jmgree01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Jude M. Greer)
Subject: Gateway 2000 and ATI LB problem.
Nntp-Posting-Host: starbase.spd.louisville.edu
Organization: University of Louisville
Lines: 25
I was wondering if anyone out there has had the same problem I am having with
my Gateway 2000 486-33DX VL-Bus system with ATI Graphics Ultra Pro LB.
When I have my computer in any resolution other than 800x600, everything is
fine, but whenever I use it in 800x600 (Windows, AutoCAD, GIFs) the screen
gets about 1 1/2 inches shorter. At the very top and very bottom of the screen
there is about a 3/4" bar of black. The screen isn't cut off, it just squeezes
everything into the smaller space and messes up the aspect ratio. While I can
manually change the V-Size on the back, this is a pain in the ass, and it just
shouldn't happen anyway. I've called Gateway numerous times and they haven't
been able to help me at all. Two different times they sent me a new card, and
both times the new card didn't work at all in my computer. They even tried
to bill me for the first card because they didn't get it back in a couple of
days, when they TOLD me over the phone that they would wait more than 2 weeks
before billing my card. But their customer support is a different story...
So, if anyone has had this same problem, please let me know if you know what
to do. Hell, let me know if you don't have a solution, just so I know I'm
not the only one with this problem. Thanks in advance.
Jude M. Greer
jmgree01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
P.S. I already tried going into the MACH 32 install program and manually set-
ting up the card. Doesn't work. Whenever I try to increase the vertical size
of the 800x600 screen, it just starts to cut off the top and bottom.
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9494 | From: ghm@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au (Geoff Miller)
Subject: Re: The 'pill' for Deer = No Hunting
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Lines: 61
jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>Promising field experiments are being done this year in several areas of
>the country relating to chemical contraceptive baits for deer. Preliminary
>data suggests that this will be a cost-effective and humane method for
>preventing over-population of habitats.
Preliminary data regarding similar research into kangaroo overpopulation
in Australia do not in any way support the cost-effectiveness of this
approach. It _may_ be cost-effective for deer--if you quietly overlook
the fact that the net cost to the state of deer hunting is _negative_
(i.e. a profit) because the (majority of) hunters pay for licences.
The cost comparisons are probably being done assuming that people have
to be employed to cull the animals, which is not in fact the case.
You figure people are going to pay for licences to implant contraceptive
pellets or spread baits?
There has been a fair bit of discussion about this here recently,
because the kangaroo population in the grounds of the Governor-
General's residence has now reached plague proportions. Despite the
whines of the rampant animal-libbers, the most effective method of
controlling the population is still considered to be controlled
shooting.
>So, now why should we allow hunting ... to prevent over-population of
>the deer/bear/<whatever> ? Sorry, but that 'justification' of blood-
>lust is now gone with the wind. Once mass-production of this stuff
>begins, animal populations can be easily managed without a shot being
>fired. This leaves only the fact that some people *like* to go out
>in the woods and *kill* things.
Some people take satisfaction (IMHO, legitimate satisfaction) in eating
food that they have harvested themselves. The pleasure derived from
hunting is the same as that you get from eating fruit and vegetables
grown in your own garden (and, in general, game meat is probably much
freer of unpleasant chemicals than what you buy from the butcher or
the supermarket).
> That may be a motivation, but it
>cannot now be justified. Expect PETA and like organizations to use
>this argument to get hunting banned - period.
By "cannot now be justified" I guess you mean that you personally
don't see any justification. Fine--but what makes your opinion
so important?
>With no legitimate hunting, with the papers filled with stories of
>senseless murders ... I guess there won't be a chance in hell of
>building a case for the RKBA that will withstand either public
>opinion, necessity or scientific scrutiny. Don't give me that
>"silent majority wants guns" crap ... they are and will be 'silent'.
>No votes for RKBA, no RKBA.
Certainly the last point is correct. If politicians don't see any
votes for themselves in opposing stupid legislation or in developing
and supporting measures which might be effective in reducing the
incidence of violent crime they won't do these things.
Geoff Miller (g-miller@adfa.edu.au)
Computer Centre, Australian Defence Force Academy
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9495 | From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Subject: Re: It's a rush... (was Re: Too fast)
Distribution: usa
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA
Lines: 12
In article <C5r43y.F0D@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> marshatt@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Zauberer) writes:
>I guess I wasn't clear enough here. I said the roads WERE designed for
>speeds of 80 or so and still be safe. The current 55-65 will add a saftey
>margin.
They were designed for speeds of upwards of 80 - I forget the
exact spec - but for military vehicles. That's 80 in a 1958 Dodge
Powerwagon. Not 80 in a 1993 Ford Taurus.
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9496 | From: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu
Subject: Russian Email Contacts.
Lines: 15
Nntp-Posting-Host: acad3.alaska.edu
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Does anyone have any Russian Contacts (Space or other) or contacts in the old
USSR/SU or Eastern Europe?
Post them here so we all can talk to them and ask questions..
I think the cost of email is high, so we would have to keep the content to
specific topics and such..
Basically if we want to save Russia and such, then we need to make contacts,
contacts are a form of info, so lets get informing.
==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
Alive in Nome, Alaska (once called Russian America).
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9497 | From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: dogs
Nntp-Posting-Host: acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Lines: 26
In article <C5pntM.8Co@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>This tactic depends for its effectiveness on the dog's conformance to
>a "psychological norm" that may not actually apply to a particular dog.
>I've tried it with some success before, but it won't work on a Charlie Manson
>dog or one that's really, *really* stupid. A large Irish Setter taught me
>this in *my* yard (apparently HIS territory) one day. I'm sure he was playing
>a game with me. The game was probably "Kill the VERY ANGRY Neighbor" Before
>He Can Dispense the TERRIBLE PUNISHMENT.
What, a dog weighs 150lb maybe, at max? You can't handle it?
You have, I presume, thumbs? Grapple with it and tear it's head
off!
Sheesh, even a trained attack dog is no match for a human,
we have *all* the advantages.
Regards, Charles
DoD0.001
RZ350
--
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
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9498 | From: keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys)
Subject: Re: Alarm systems: are they worthwhile?
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology
Distribution: usa
Lines: 50
In article <1993Apr19.164451.3744@news.eng.convex.com> dodson@convex.COM (Dave Dodson) writes:
>Is it worthwhile to get an alarm system on a new car?
Although, others have in the past and will continue to disagree
i think that it is worthwhile to get an alarm.
>What features are important?
I think that it is important to protect your trunk, engine bay, all
doors. I'd get flashing lights, LED's mounted on the drivers and
passenger door and a relay to disable engine operation. Toss in
a glass break sensor, and shock sensor. Door lock and unlock,
two remotes and panic feature are also nice to have.
Most important is where you have the installation done! Some places
may cost a little more, but a poorly installed alarm (no matter how
much it cost) will be a major burden.
>What features are unimportant?
IMO, things like engine starters, voice alarms, window/sunroof open
and close, and most other conveniences.
>
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>Dave Dodson dodson@convex.com
>Convex Computer Corporation Richardson, Texas (214) 497-4234
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9499 | From: bishop@baeyer.chem.fsu.edu (Greg Bishop)
Subject: Re: Borland's Paradox Offer
Organization: Physics Department, FSU
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS
Reply-To: bishop@baeyer.chem.fsu.edu
Lines: 31
>I am considering buying Borland's Paradox for Windows since I
>would like to use a database with Windows (I don't have/use
>one yet) for both work/home use. I would like to advantage
>of Borland's "$129.95 until April 30" offer if this package
>is everything that Borland claims it to be. So, I was
>wondering ... has anybody used this and/or have any opinions?
>
>-- Tom Belmonte
If you are interested in a program which is very easy to use, I strongly
suggest Approach 2.0. It is extremely easy to use, make reports, etc. I
own both it and Paradox, and I almost never use Paradox. If you need to
build up a complicated application, then Paradox is the way to go. I have
heard horror stories about the Access programming being extremely cryptic.
Since you seem like you will probably be doing fairly small stuff (work/
home use and you have not used a database before), I recommend Approach. I
have found only one small thing which I would like it to do more easily:
I have one database where the order in which the records are entered must
be different than what is the logical ordering. To permanently reorder (to
use the old DBASE III command) the records requires sorting the records
appropriately (no problem, since I almost always use them in this order)
exporting the database to another database (which can still be an Approach
database), and then copying the exported files back to the original
filename. This is a small weakness, considering the other items I really
like about Approach. It is also a little slower than Paradox (other than
the loading, Paradox takes forever and a minute to load). Paradox also
takes a lot of memory (both hard disk (around 12MB) and RAM).
Greg Bishop. (bishop@baeyer.chem.fsu.edu)
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