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9500 | From: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker)
Subject: Re: Changing oil by self.rist, another dealer service scam...
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
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Reply-To: ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu
In a previous article, bmoss@grinch.sim.es.com (Brent "Woody" Moss) says:
>
>I was worried about someone stealing my oil once also. I finally
>decided to just have my drain plug welded shut. It works great !
>I figure that when I add three or four quarts when the oil light
>comes on every month or so that it's just as good or better than
>the old wives tale of changing the oil AND filter every 3000 miles.
>Works for me, I must say.
>
I did the same thing to my drain plug for the same reasons. I was wondering
how you filled your crankcase though as I welded my hood shut also out of fear
that somebody might steal my air-filter.
--
DoD #650<----------------------------------------------------------->DarkMan
The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of
thinking we were at when we created them. - Albert Einstein
___________________The Eternal Champion_________________
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9501 | From: rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy)
Subject: Re: The Tories could win the "lottery"...Clinton GST?
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
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In article <1993Apr16.083029.12516@umr.edu> ckincy@cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) w
rites:
>In article <1993Apr16.031616.23130@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rscharfy@magnus.
acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy) writes:
>>
>>This country is hardly ruined. In fact, it is booming compared to after the
>>1980 election.
>>
>>This whole "USA has gone to hell and Reagan/Bush caused it", is not only lame
,
>>pathetic, and old....... it's wrong.
>>
>>Under Reagan/Bush the economy grew by 1.1 trillion dollars. This is more tha
n
>>the entire economy of Germany, a "kind, gentle" country, in many peoples'
>>books. What a joke.
>
>Drive down to Cincinnati and take a look. Not pretty, is it?
But drive UP to Cleveland and it is about 10,000 times better. I from Toledo
originally (but that place always as sucked as long as I've been on the planet.
>Things were much better there in 1980. All that growth went into
>the hands of Ron and Georgie's pals, and I DIDN'T GET A SINGLE
>DIME OF IT, DAMMIT. And, now, I'm gonna be bled to death by tax
>leeches to pay for the damage. F***ing great.
Republicans have been trying to pass a balanced budget amendment for the last
ten years.
>
>Oh, here's another thing. Seems like a lot of people in
>Columbus drive over to Marysville and make Japanese cars. Hm.
Because for a while, the American companies couln't even compete in THEIR OWN
COUNTRY, where free trade isn't even an issue. However, even the automobile
pendelum has swung back to the Big 3.
>I wonder how many American-owned companies employ those in
>Central Ohio? Other than Ohio State University. :)
Oh, I don't know. It's probably in the tens of thousands.
Ryan
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9502 | From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: Some more about gun control...
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
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Distribution: world
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In article <1993Apr16.162447.26289@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham) writes:
> In article <1qicep$obf@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
> >In article <1993Apr14.232806.18970@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham) writes:
re: is "John Q. Public with a gun" protected?
> >> It's worth noting that US vs. Miller sustained Miller's conviction
> >> of possession of an illegal firearm, noting that a sawed-off shotgun
> >> was not a proper militia weapon.
> >No, they noted that no one had CLAIMED that it was a proper militia
> >weapon (despite having been used in at least two wars). This was true,
> >since neither Miller nor his lawyer appeared before the Court.
> Did they or did they not sustain Miller's conviction? I don't have the
> text of the case handy.
Miller was convicted of owning a sawed-off shotgun and not paying the
NFA '34 tax. Snatches of the court's decision:
The Second Amendment was intended to "assure the continuation and render
possible the effectiveness of such a force [the militia]... It must be
interpreted and applied with that end in view."
The militia includes "all males physically capable of acting in concert
for the common defense."
However, regarding sawed-off shotguns, "certainly it is not within
judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military
equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense."
"Judicial notice" is the term of art here -- it meant that no such
evidence had been formally presented. This is different from claiming
that they had ruled that it wasn't.
> Yes, shotguns had been used in WWI, the Spanish-American War, and the
> US Civil War. That was not in question. The possession of a sawed-off
> shotgun was, i.e., a weapon altered to improve concealibility.
I'm not talking about plain shotguns in war -- I'm talking about short-
barrelled ("sawed-off") shotguns in war.
Compare Revolutionary War blunderbusses; luparas in the Spanish-American
War; and trench-cleaners in WW I. They were also put to good use by
US soldiers in WW II, not to mention being invaluable to "tunnel rats"
in Vietnam, but, of course, "Miller" took place in 1939.
> >> Therefore, US vs. Miller supports limited government regulation of
> >> firearms.
> >
> >Don't go arguing down this road unless you are willing to abide by
> >the consequences that you find at the end of it -- mainly, that the
> >law-abiding common man has a right to own any weapon that has a militia
> >purpose, from handguns to sawed-off shotguns and fully automatic weapons.
> >That, in fact, is what this decision says.
>
> You are free to produce evidence that I'm not willing to abide with
> all the implications of this.
Here is my quandary: you seem to be arguing that certain types of
guns fall outside the scope of the Second. This isn't a useful argument
unless you believe that some significant gun or class of gun belongs
in that class.
I think we both agree that zip guns probably aren't protected. Maybe
we also both agree that all the weapons that random state governments
have been banning or trying to ban because they have "no sporting purpose"
and "no provate citizen would ever need these guns" DO fall under the
protection of the Second.
So, given that damn near any gun of any practical utility is or has at
some time been used by the military, even if only for marksmanship
training purposes, I need to understand why you are intent on pressing
this point, arguing that that SOMETHING is not protected by the Second.
> Just because I don't whole-heartedly endorse the NRA position does not
> mean that I oppose the RKBA. This attitude is what makes the NRA
> unpopular.
Often, what makes someone unpopular is what other people say about him.
How much did any of us fear or abhor the Branch Davidians six months ago?
How many of us feared or abhorred Saddam Hussein five years ago?
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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9503 | From: ak954@yfn.ysu.edu (Albion H. Bowers)
Subject: Re: Manual Shift Bigots
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
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Reply-To: ak954@yfn.ysu.edu (Albion H. Bowers)
NNTP-Posting-Host: yfn.ysu.edu
In a previous article, (Eric Youngblood) says:
>In article <Apr19.195700.19699@engr.washington.edu>, eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot) writes:
>[race car stuff deleted]
Back to the F1 stuff for a second, note that the `auto' tranny in F1
_STILL_ shifts at the driver's command, not some preselected schedule. The
driver still controls the shifting, not the transmission.
>|> now, there is no dispute that in production cars, automatics are
>|> inherently more lossy than manuals. that is in theory. my point all
>|> along is that whatever mechanical advantages a manual has over an
>|> automatic can very easily be lost by a driver who isn't skillful or
>One thing that gives an automatic an advantage at launch is the fact that
>it has a torque converter vs a clutch. I know this sounds strange but,
>a torque converter multiplies the engine output when launching. It functions
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^
>as a sort of limited Continuously Variable Transmission. Typically you get
>a torque multiplication of 2 to 3 times depending on the stall speed.
I have yet to see a torque multiplier installed on a production automobile.
Such systems do exist, but none are presently installed in production autos
that I am aware of. These are commonly called viscous drive CVTs or
fluidic amplifiers.
>Contrasted to a clutch which merely slips when feathered (result is no TQ mult)
What the convertor _does_ allow is for the engine to be closer to its
torque peak during the launch before a clutched car can fully engage it's
driveline. Chevy proved it many years ago with the '70 Camaro (ETs and
terminal 1/4 mile times were close enough tpo be identical for 4 speed and
auto cars). Note that this is also the major reason that an auto car can
get away with fewer gears than a manual, the slip in the convertor makes up
for the fewer ratios (and before everyone starts yelling about the proposed
5 sspeed autos soon to be out, note that some manufacturers are using 6
speed manulas now).
>Once past lauch however, the converter begins coupling and the TQ multiplication
>effect is reduced, but by then you should be on the cam.
Correct.
--
Al Bowers DOD #900 Alfa Ducati Hobie Kottke 'blad Iaido NASA
"Well goodness sakes...don't you know that girls can't play guitar?"
-Mary Chapin-Carpenter
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9504 | From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: Superstars and attendance (was Teemu Selanne, was +/- leaders)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
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In <1993Apr5.182124.17415@ists.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes:
>Dean J. Falcione (posting from jrmst+8@pitt.edu) writes:
>>But I think the reason is Lemieux
>>had a 168 point season and was the first non-Gretzky to win the Hart and
>>Ross since 1980. People turned out to watch him play.
>I will grant that a star like Mario will draw fans, even if the team sucks.
>But this is short term only; I still do not think the attendance increase
>will last, unless the team is a winning/competitive/improving/butt-kicking
>one. Pittsburgh was still getting better, so people continued to support
>them. If they suddenly dropped to, say, 50 points, you'd have knee surgery
>for some of the people jumping off the bandwagon.
I disagree. McNall has demonstrated with Gretzky that a star brings out the
crowds whether or not the team is expected to do well. Very few fans real-
istically expect the Kings to do well this year (although I do) and yet they
still go out to see Gretzky. This is the marketing strategy - selling the
game by selling the stars - that is employed by Baseball and, notably, the
NBA and this is the attitude that the new Bettman/McNall leadership is
bringing to the league. They have gone on record as stating that they are
trying to sell the game on its stars. Timo Salami and Brett Hull are perfect
examples of players that real fans know aren't worth a damn and yet, being
benificiaries of marketing-oriented coaching strategies, have goal totals
that would indicate to the casual observer, the very fans the NHL wants to
attract, that these players are indeed superstars.
>>They made the transaction to try and build a winner around Mario, that is
>>true. But the improvement in attendance came before they started doing
>>this (Coffey late in 1987) and before they even had a playoff bound team.
>>A doubling of attendance occured in 1984-85 from the previous year. An
>>increase from 38 points to 53 points is not going to do that. The arrival
>>of Mario Lemieux is what did it.
>It might help to think about what would go through a fan's mind who suddenly
>found an interest in Mario and the Pens. Was it "gee, Mario Lemieux is
>amazing, I'll go watch him play", or was it "gee, now we've got a *kick*
>*ass* guy on *our* side, I'll go watch him play". I think it was the latter.
It ain't nearly so simple as this. The casual fan doesn't think about much
at all. Can you actually find an adult with a 3 digit IQ who believes that
McDonalds makes good hamburgers?
>I did provide the example of Rocket Ismail and the Toronto Argonauts of the
>CFL...did you leave it out because you don't know much about the CFL? If
>that's the case then fair enough, but if it isn't the case then I'm curious
>to hear your explanation.
Yes but apparently the Rocket has not lived up to his marketing responsi-
bilities has he? He was hyped, initially, as a superstar, but outside of
one Grey Cup game he has done very little to maintain/enhance that assess-
ment of his talents. Most Argo fans probably feel the team would be better
off without him.
cordially, as always,
rm
--
Roger Maynard
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
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9505 | From: gaucher@sam.cchem.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Guns GONE. Good Riddance !
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.cchem.berkeley.edu
Originator: gaucher@sam.cchem.berkeley.edu
In article <1993Apr18.000152.2339@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>You are loosing.
^^^^^^^
>There is no question about it.
You can't spell. There is no question about it.
>Of those who vote, your cause is considered an abomination. No matter
>how hard you try, public opinion is set against the RKBA.
We must be reading different public opinion polls. I agree that the
misguided public would like to see assault weapons banned (mainly because
they are being lied to by the media about the frequency of their use
in violent crime ... ~1%), but if public opinion were so dead-set
against the RKBA you can bet that idiots like Metzenbaum and Schumer
would be seeing their foolish bills getting passed through Congress
a LOT easier than they are. And as governments go broke and can no
longer protect their citizens you can bet that the American people
will start to really appreciate the usefulness of firearms. Contrary
to what you might think, time is probably on OUR side, not YOURS.
>This is the end. By the finish of the Clinton administration, your
>RKBA will be null and void. Tough titty.
Yeah, right. Don't hold your breath. My condolences on the discovery
of uncomfortable resilience in your mammary glands, but this has nothing
to do with the issue at hand.
... ridiculous tripe deleted ...
>The press is against you, the public (the voting public) is against
>you, the flow of history is against you ... this is it !
Yeah, the liberal press doesn't like us much, but you can't really
expect coherent thought from them anyway. Their opinions are based
more on a desire to appear politically correct than on facts (which
are generously provided by the FBI, if they'd bother to put on their
Birkenstocks and go to the library to read them). Most of my friends
are anti-gun, and without exception NONE of them bases his/her opinions
on facts. They would rather believe (despite all evidence to the
contrary) that disarming law-abiding citizens would make the world
more civilized, when all it really does is make us all sheep. They
would rather wallow in their pitiful liberal white guilt about how
society has driven the criminal to rob, rape, and murder. They
support spending millions of public dollars protecting the rights of scum
who have already demonstrated that they have no regard for society
or its laws. They ignore the fact that areas with the strictest gun
control (NYC,DC) have the worst crime and areas with little gun
control (VT,NH,ID) have very little crime in comparison. But they
have to ignore this because otherwise they would need to confront
the fact that law-abiding citizens who own guns are not the ones that
are causing most of the trouble in society. Oh no, we certainly can't
accept that! But I guess I have faith that when crime starts making
significant inroads into their neighborhoods and starts directly
hurting them and their families, they will probably whistle a different
tune. They just better hope it isn't too late then.
>Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect
>them. Resistance is useless. They will overwhelm you - one at a time.
Hmmm. I wasn't expecting company tonight. I might be able to whip
up a quick cheese and cracker plate, but they should probably bring
their own drinks. Do I have time to vacuum the rug?
>Too fucking bad. You have gone the way of the KKK. Violent solutions
>are passe'. Avoid situations which encourage criminals. Then you will
>be as safe as possible. Such as it is ...
I'm glad you ended the posting here. Your medication seems to have
worn off ...
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Lee Gaucher NRA | My opinions.
gaucher@sam.cchem.berkeley.edu | No one else's.
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9506 | From: g9134255@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Coronado Emmanuel Abad)
Subject: Need polygon splitting algo...
Organization: University of Wollongong, NSW, Australia.
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Keywords: polygons, splitting, clipping
The idea is to clip one polygon using another polygon (not
necessarily rectangular) as a window. My problem then is in
finding out all the new vertices of the resulting "subpolygons"
from the first one. Is this simply a matter of extending the
usual algorithm whereby each of the edges of one polygon is checked
against another polygon??? Is there a simpler way??
Comments welcome.
Noel.
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9507 | From: neuralog@NeoSoft.com (Neuralog)
Subject: Re: compiling on sun4_411
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
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In article <1993Apr20.132914.907@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> mccoy@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>In article qfe00WB2QzZ7EZ@andrew.cmu.edu, Wilson Swee <ws8n+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>|> I have a piece of X code that compiles fine on pmax-ul4, pmax_mach, as
>|>well as sun4_mach, but whenever it compiles on sun4_411, it gives me
>|>undefined ld errors:
>|>_sin
>|>_cos
>|>_pow
>|>_floor
>|>_get_wmShellWidgetClass
>|>_get_applicationShellWidgetClass
>|>
>|>The following libraries that I linked it to are:
>|>-lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11
>|>
>|>The makefile is generated off an imake template.
>|>Can anyone give me pointers as to what I'm missing out to compile on
>|>a sun4_411?
>
>Well, the first 2 are easy. You need the math library. Try adding -lm after
>-lX11. Don't know if that's the whole problem but it's a start.
>
>---
I "think" you should try linking to /usr/lib/libXmu.a instead of
-lXmu. At least that solved the problem for me!
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9508 | From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Subject: Center for Anti-Israel Propaganda
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu
the 'Center for Policy Research' writes...
> FROM THE ISRAELI PRESS
>
>Hadashot, 14 March 1993:
>
>The Israeli Police Department announced on the evening of Friday,
>March 12 that it is calling upon [Jewish] Israeli citizens with
>gun permits to carry them at all times "so as to contribute to
>their security and that of their surroundings".
Considering all the murders of innocent Israelis at the hands
of Arab death merchants, I see nothing wrong with the advice.
>Ha'aretz, 15 March 1993:
>
>Yehoshua Matza (Likud), Chair of the Knesset Interior Committee,
>stated that he intends to demand that the police department make
>it clear to the public that anyone who wounds or kills
>[non-Jewish] terrorists will not be put on trial.
As usual, the bias of the 'Center for Policy Research' echoes
through this newsgroup. Here we have an enraged Likudnik who
is venting his spleen, and you portray it as if this is going
to become policy. You don't say what the response to Matza's
suggestion was. Do do not mention whether he was refering to
terrorists caught in the act, which could be a clear cut case
of self-defence. Would you care to elaborate on this, or was
this all you wanted to say on the matter. Why don't you give
up this 'Center for Policy Research' crap, and just post your
biases without trying to legitimize them with a pompous name?
>Ha'aretz, 16 March1993:
>
>Today a private security firm and units from the IDF Southern
>Command will begin installation of four magnetic gates in the Gaza
>strip, as an additional stage in the upgrading of security
>measures in the Strip.
>
>The gates will aid in the searching of [non-Jewish] Gaza residents
>as they leave for work in Israel. They can be used to reveal the
>presence of knives, axes, weapons and other sharp objects.
>
>In addition to the gates, which will be operated by a private
>civilian company, large quantities of magnetic-card reading
>devices are being brought to the inspection points, to facilitate
>the reading of the magnetic cards these [non-Jewish] workers must
>carry.
A laudable precaution.
Every single thing you post about Israel is posted to portray
Israel as negatively as you can. Deliberate omissions are an
integral part of the shtick. And it's not only the incidents
that you do not mention, but even the stories you do post are
fraught with omissions, which change the entire meaning. The
absurdity of your respectable name cannot hide your bias.
In your effort to portray Israel in an unfavorable light, you
have accomplished nothing, except to prove that a respectable
sounding label like the Center for Policy Research is nothing
but a smoke screen for someone with a heavily biased attitude
against Israel and the need to vent it.
This 'Center for Policy Research' stuff is nonsense.
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9509 | From: v064mb9k@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL B. GANDLER)
Subject: Radio Electronics Free information card
Organization: University at Buffalo
Lines: 8
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Nntp-Posting-Host: ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
How does the radio Electronics free information cards work.
Do they just send you some general information about the companies that
advertise in their magazine or does it also give you sign you up for a
catalog.
Neil Gandler
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9510 | From: leisner@wrc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner 71348 )
Subject: Intravenous antibiotics
Reply-To: leisner@eso.mc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
I recently had a case of shingles and my doctors wanted to give me
intravenous Acyclovir.
It was a pain finding IV sites in my arms...can I have some facts about
how advantageous it is to give intravenous antibiotics rather than oral?
marty
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9511 | Subject: Cornerstone DualPage driver wanted
From: tkelder@ebc.ee (Tonis Kelder)
Nntp-Posting-Host: kask.ebc.ee
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]Lines: 12
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I am looking for a WINDOW 3.1 driver for
Cornerstone DualPage (Cornerstone Technology, Inc)
video card. Does anybody know, that has these? Is there one?
Thanks for any info,
To~nis
--
To~nis Kelder Estonian Biocentre (tkelder@kask.ebc.ee)
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9512 | From: hgomez@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Humberto L Gomez)
Subject: MULTISYNC 3D NEC MONITOR FOR SALE
Article-I.D.: magnus.1993Apr6.012451.3540
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
I have an NEC multisync 3d monitor for sale. great condition. looks new. it is
.28 dot pitch
SVGA monitor that syncs from 15-38khz
it is compatible with all aga amiga graphics modes.
leave message if interested. make an offer.
--
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9513 | From: adamsj@gtewd.mtv.gtegsc.com
Subject: RACK MOUNT 2CI, 650 Prices.
Organization: GTE Govt. Systems, Electronics Def. Div.
Lines: 16
Here's a good one: Does anyone know of a product that allows
me to RACK MOUNT my 2CI (or maybe 650 if I blow some more
money...) ??? My application is music, and would like to be
able to haul it around (would probably plan to get an MO drive
or something so I don't have to depend on an internal fixed
hard drive - i.e., may be pretty rough on an internal HD...)
I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area, if that matters.
Also, anyone have any info on 650's and Midi? And, would anyone
care to email me with the price they paid for their 650? Or if
there's a price list FAQ, never mind... Just curious about the
difference between the best retailers and the local university
pricing...
Thanks, Jeff Adams
adams@upse01.mtv.gtegsc.com
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9514 | From: st1g9@rosie.uh.edu (Lee Preimesberger)
Subject: Re: Microsoft DOS 6.0 Upgrade for sale
Article-I.D.: rosie.5APR199322063854
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Houston
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NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <hatton.733706165@cgl.ucsf.edu>, hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes...
#adn6285@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
#>So, does anyone care to enlighten us whether DOS6.0 is worth upgrading to?
#>How good is it's compression, and can it be turned on/off at will?
#>Any other nice/nasty features?
#
#According to reports, if you don't have DOS yet, and don't have any
#utilities (QEMM, Stacker, PCTools, Norton, ...) then DOS6 may be worth it.
#For people who have DOS5, and some sort of utility, DOS6 doesn't offer
#much. You'd never know it from the usual hype that marketing is able
#to create, however. :-)
IMHO, it seems to be worth the $40 to upgrade. DoubleSpace seems a bit
saner than Stacker 2.0 (which I've replaced). MemMaker is nowhere near as
aggressive as QEMM, but it doesn't hose my system like QEMM did (at least
it hasn't yet). Microsoft AntiVirus is just the latest version (or a
reasonably recent one) of CPAV - mine was very aged, so this was quite welcome.
MS-DOS 6.0 ain't the end all, be all of operating systems - but it's
better than a sharp stick in the eye, unless you happen to be into that sort
of thing. :-)
Lee Preimesberger
st1g9@jetson.uh.edu ----- Undergraduate Scum ----- University of Houston, USA
********
"There is freedom of choice for every choice but mine."
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9515 | From: mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price)
Subject: Re: phone number of wycliffe translators UK
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
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I'm concerned about a recent posting about WBT/SIL. I thought they'd
pretty much been denounced as a right-wing organization involved in
ideological manipulation and cultural interference, including Vietnam
and South America. A commission from Mexican Academia denounced them in
1979 as " a covert political and ideological institution used by the
U.S. govt as an instrument of control, regulation, penetration, espionage and
repression."
My concern is that this group may be seen as acceptable and even
praiseworthy by readers of soc.religion.christian. It's important that
Christians don't immediately accept every "Christian" organization as
automatically above reproach.
mp
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9516 | From: dan@Ingres.COM (a Rose arose)
Subject: Re: Christian Extremist Kills Doctor
Organization: Representing my own views here only.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: usa
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regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:
: In article <1993Mar30.001428.7648@pony.Ingres.COM> dan@Ingres.COM (a Rose arose) writes:
:
: Seriously, though, Griffen didn't save the lives of children, and he did
: destroy the life of a man, so on the most superficial of levels, he's scum.
:
I almost agree, but Griffen is not scum. Scum has no guilt or freedom to
choose anything. Griffen does. God did not make scum when he made Griffen.
He made a precious person and this person chose to do wrong. The same goes
for Dr. Gunn.
: But if you are to examine it more closely, Griffen would have preferred that
: these children were born -- yet AFTER their birth, did Griffen have any
: assistance to offer them? Did Griffen intend to support them, educate them,
: raise them up to be useful citizens? Did he have any intent whatsoever
: to help these children after birth?
:
Here's the real problem. Americans have become so insensitive to the needs
of others and so completely wrapped up in themselves that they cannot see
straight or think clearly enough to make even the slightest and most obvious
moral decisions based on reality.
If a man abandons a woman to care for their child on her own, he is not
considered to be a very respectable or decent man by anyone. This man has
fled his responsibility, has behaved like a lazy coward, and has turned
away from his responsibility to his wife and child.
However, if a woman decides to kill her unborn child to release her burden,
she is not thought of in the same way. When the man abandons, the woman
suffers but the child is free to grow up and live a happy and normal life.
When the woman abandons, the child is diced or killed with saline or vacuumed
out, and the man has no choice, and the man sometimes suffers so badly that
he wishes he could trade places with his child.
Ths root of this whole problem is selfishness--the arrogance that says, "My
feelings and desires are supreme and your well being is not worth dung."
And when you come down to it, this is the substance of what hell is made of.
It's the reason a loving God can throw selfish people to the devil and his
demons for all of eternity. Let any one of us unrepentant into heaven, and
we'll ruin it the first chance we get.
: Now, I don't really know the answer to these questions, but I've got a real
: good guess.
:
And, it's probably right.
: And I wouldn't call *that* 'benevolent', either.
:
It is a move in the right direction. As it is now, we don't see our
responsibility because we kill it and get it out of sight. The media
backs us completely. Real responsibility does not sell. The only
"responsibility" that sells in the marketplace is that which is just
enough to make us "feel responsible" without showing anything that
might show us our own true irresponsibility. We want to "feel" like
good people, but we want nothing with *being* good people. Just give
me the freedom to say "I'm good", and the rest of the world can burn.
Rape and kill my children and throw my parents to the places where
poor old folks rot until they're dead. I'll hate my brother and sister
if I wish and I'll cheat on my wife or husband. Screw the government,
because it screws me, and don't talk to me about giving to the church
because church people are all a bunch of money grubbing hypocrites.
But, I'm a good person. At least I admit what I do. At least I love
myself and we all know that is the greatest love in the world--not that
a man lay down his life for his brother...That sounds too "christian".
At the root, this is the substance of what hell is made of.
We've become a self indulgant, backslidden society no longer responsible
to our children, to our parents, to our families, to our government, or
to our God. This is the root behind justification of every evil, of every
corruption in government, of every slanderous remark, of every lie, and
of every murder. Society cannot continue to live like this long. it will
have to destroy itsself soon, and perhaps in the end, that will be the
biggest blessing this world can hope to see.
Why do people see so much evil in trying to turn this situation around?
--
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"I deplore the horrible crime of child murder...
We want prevention, not merely punishment.
We must reach the root of the evil...
It is practiced by those whose inmost souls revolt
from the dreadful deed...
No mater what the motive, love of ease,
or a desire to save from suffering the unborn innocent,
the woman is awfully guilty who commits the deed...
but oh! thrice guilty is he who drove her
to the desperation which impelled her to the crime."
- Susan B. Anthony,
The Revolution July 8, 1869
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9517 | From: brownli@ohsu.edu@ohsu.edu (Liane Brown)
Subject: CHRIST, MY ADVOCATE - A Poem
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University
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_MY ADVOCATE_
I sinned. And straightway, posthaste, Satan flew
Before the presence of the Most High God
And made a railing accusation there.
He said, "This soul, this thing of clay and sod,
Has sinned. 'Tis true that he has named Thy name;
But I demand his death, for Thou hast said,
'The soul that sinneth, it shall die.' Shall not
Thy sentence be fulfilled? Is justice dead?
Send now this wretched sinner to his doom!
What other thing can righteous ruler do?"
Thus Satan did accuse me day and night;
And every word he spoke, O God, was true!
Then quickly One rose up from God's right hand,
Before whose glory angels veiled their eyes;
He spoke, "Each jot and tittle of the law
Must be fulfilled; the guilty sinner dies!
But wait -- suppose his guilt were all transferred
To Me and that I paid his penalty!
Behold My hands, My side, My feet! One day
I was made sin for him and died that he
Might be presented, faultless, at Thy throne!"
And Satan flew away. Full well he knew
That he could not prevail against such love,
for every word my dear Lord spoke was true!
by Martha Snell Nicholson
+++++++++++++++++++++++
I heard this poem read last night and wanted to share it with other
subscribers of this newsgroup. It's such a wonderful blessing to see how
secure our salvation is because the Lord Jesus paid for what He did not owe
because we had a debt which we were not capable to pay.
Thanks and praise be to the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who is seated at
the right hand of the Majesty on High, making intercession for us.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Liane Brown
(Internet) brownli@ohsu.edu
|
9518 | From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke)
Subject: Re: Magellan Update - 04/16/93
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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Keywords: Magellan, JPL
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <1993Apr20.072706.19981@cs.ruu.nl>, jhwitten@cs.ruu.nl (Jurriaan Wittenberg) writes...
>In <19APR199320262420@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
>(Ron Baalke) writes:
>
>>4. On Monday morning, April 19, the moon will occult Venus and
>>interrupt the tracking of Magellan for about 68 minutes.
>Will this mean a loss of data or will the Magellan transmit data later on ??
The gravity data is collected in real-time and it not recorded to the tape
recorder. However, you only need to collect the gravity every 3rd or 4th
orbit, so there is no real data loss if the Moon blocks transmission for
a short while.
>BTW: When will NASA cut off the connection with Magellan?? Not that I am
>looking forward to that day but I am just curious. I believe it had something
>to do with the funding from the goverment (or rather _NO_ funding :-)
The aerobraking starts May 25 and is expected last about 70 days. If the
funding is provided (8 million dollars) to extend the mission for the
high resolution gravity data, then the mission will last through October 1994.
Otherwise, the mission will end this coming July.
___ _____ ___
/_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
| | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab |
___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand
/___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and
|_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.
|
9519 | From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M Kadie)
Subject: Re: Fifth Amendment and Passwords
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Lines: 42
ashall@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew S Hall) writes:
>I am postive someone will correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the Fifth
>also cover not being forced to do actions that are self-incriminating?
[...]
[From Mike Godwin <mnemonic@eff.org>, posted with permission - Carl]
Sadly, it does not. Suspects can be compelled to give handwriting and
voice exemplars, and to take blood and DNA tests.
> e.g. The police couldn't demand that you silently take them to where the
> body is buried or where the money is hidden.
No, but they could compell you to produce the key to a safe where, as it
happens, evidence that will convict you is stored.
The crypto-key disclosure issue hasn't come up yet, but current law
suggests that it's a loser for the defendant--he'll be compelled to turn
over the key.
The test for compelled self-incrimination is whether the material to
be disclosed *in itself* tends to inculpate the discloser. In the example
I gave above, the safe key itself has no testimonial value--ergo, it can
be disclosed under compulsion (e.g., subpoena duces tecum).
Moreover, the government can always immunize the disclosure of a crypto
key--compelling you to disclose the key at the price of not using the fact
of your disclosure as evidence in the case against you. Of course, they
can use whatever they discover as a result of this disclosure against
you.
--Mike
--
Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.
= kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
|
9520 | From: hanavin@huey.udel.edu (Chuck Hanavin)
Subject: Re: HeathKit/Zenith
Nntp-Posting-Host: huey.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Lines: 7
In article <C52EGz.27t3@austin.ibm.com> $LOGIN@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>Does anyone out there have the toll-free (catalog request and order line) for
>Heathkit/Zenith? Please post the number if you've got it! Thanks.
----------------------------------------------------
1-800-253-0570
|
9521 | From: rborden@ugly.UVic.CA (Ross Borden)
Subject: Re: How many read sci.space?
Nntp-Posting-Host: ugl-gw.uvic.ca
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Lines: 33
In article <1qjs1j$306@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>
>
>In the old days, their used to be Arbitron stats' that analyzed
>the readership and posting volumes by group and user.
>
>They were available from UUNET. That's how you check the
>readership of Sci.space, not some stupid unscientific attempt
>to flood the newsgroup.
>
>I have abetter idea. WHy don't we all reply directly to the
>origanator of this post, and tell him we read sci.space ;-)
>
>
>pat
Sigh.
I try to make a little joke, I try to inject some humour here
and what happens? In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn:
"I say, that was a _joke_, son."
I thought that the bit about McElwaine, not to mention the two
smileys, would indicate to even the most humour impaired that I was
JOKING.
Sigh.
(And will everyone who pat's suggestion (thanks bunches, pat)
*please* stop sending me email.)
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| I shot a man just to watch him die; | Ross Borden |
| I'm going to Disneyland! | rborden@ra.uvic.ca |
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|
9522 | From: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
Subject: Re: Rosicrucian Order(s) ?!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Reply-To: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, alamut@netcom.com (Max Delysid y!)) says:
>
>Can we assume from this statement that you are >unequivocally< saying that
>AMORC is not a spin off of OTO?
Absolutely. Lewis didn't care for the 1921 O.T.O. charter from Reuss. He had
in mind something completely diferent. Crowley and Lewis were very
different persons, as you probably know.
>.. and that in fact, OTO may well be a spin
>off of AMORC??
No. My overstatement, sorry :-)
>>Study Harder,
>Study Smarter, not Harder! :-)
>
I ALWAYS DO.
|
9523 | From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew)
Subject: Re: mysterious TV problem -- source?
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Lines: 19
If the set is direct line powered, try checking the [likely to be
there] hybrid regulator module down stream from the 170 volt
supply. Several sets I've looked at use a 135 volt regulator. The
regulators have a tendency to short out, making the safety circuits
shut down the EHT supply section.
Try putting the set on a Variac or adjustable transformer and lower
the AC input voltage to the set to about 90 volts. If the set
operates nromally, then you know you've got a shorted regulator.
There are myriad other areas for problems, but I've seen the one
above several times. Also, if the set uses one, the trippler
module may be shot; that's fairly common.
--
Bill Mayhew NEOUCOM Computer Services Department
Rootstown, OH 44272-9995 USA phone: 216-325-2511
wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (140.220.1.1) 146.580: N8WED
|
9524 | From: Thyagi@cup.portal.com (Thyagi Morgoth NagaSiva)
Subject: David Koresh - Messianic Cult???
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
Lines: 12
Hello.
I just read my first newspaper in a while and noticed an article on a
'messianic cult' leader named 'David Koresh'.
I'd like to know more about this and what is going on with them.
Please email me as I don't normally read this newsgroup. Thanks.
Thyagi@HouseofKaos.Abyss.com
|
9525 | From: csd25@keele.ac.uk (C.M. Yearsley)
Subject: Re: CTX
Lines: 22
Distribution: world
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
I started a similar thread about a month ago, and got many replies.
The summary:
CTX 14": Nasty, low quality. Avoid.
CTX 15" Proscan: Not as good as some other makes; however, cheap.
Main problem seems poor quality control. Some reported pincushioning
(the problem I had), others poor focus, etc, etc.
I complained about mine and it was 're-tuned' (I dodn't even pay
shipping) and returned to me in 2 days.
It's now clear, well-focussed and has no pincushioning or barrel
distortion at all. I'm very happy with it, and the digital
controls and mode memory are nice. Certainly, a Trinitron
(say) would be much nicer, but that's well out of my price range.
Conclusion: If you're on a budget, get one and be prepared to
send it back if it's not perfect. It probably won't be when you get it,
but has good potential.
Chris
|
9526 | From: s5ugxk@almserv.uucp (Girish Kumtheker)
Subject: How many $$ beibg spent at Waco by BATF ??
Organization: Fannie Mae
Distribution: na
Lines: 18
Hi,
Wonder how much money is being spent at Waco by BATF ?
Are we paying because BATF messed up and have made this
a prestige issue ??
Girish
--
Girish Kumthekar Unix Technical Support
E mail address : s5ugxk@fnma.com
|
9527 | From: heart@access.digex.com (G)
Subject: cholistasis(sp?)/fat-free diet/pregnancy!!
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Lines: 80
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Hi,
I've just returned from a visit with my OB/GYN and I have a few
concerns that maybe y'all can help me with. I've been seeing
her every 4 weeks for the past few months (I'm at week 28)
and during the last 2 visits I've gained 9 to 9 1/2 pounds every
4 weeks. She said this was unacceptable over any 4 week period.
As it stands I've thus far gained 26 pounds. Also she says that
though I'm at 28 weeks the baby's size is 27 weeks, I think she
mentioned 27 inches for the top of the fundus. When I was 13
weeks the baby's size was 14 weeks. I must also add, that I had
an operation a few years ago for endometriosis and I've had no
problems with endometriosis but apparently it is causing me pain
in my pelvic region during the pregnancy, and I have a very
difficult time moving, and the doc has recommended I not walk or
move unless I have to. (I have a little handicapped sticker for
when I do need to go out.)
Anyway that's 1/2 of the situation the other is that almost from
the beginning of pregnancy I was getting sick (throwing up) about
2-3 times a day and mostly it was bile that was being eliminated.
(I told her about this). I know this because I wasn't eating
very much due to the nausea and could see the 'results'. Well
now I only get sick about once every 1-2 weeks, and it is still bile
related. But in addition I had begun to feel movement near my
upper right abdomen, just below the right breast, usually when I
was lying on my right side. It began to get worse though because
it started to hurt when I lay on my right side, and then it hurt
no matter what position I was in. Next, I noticed that when I
ate greasy or fatty foods I felt like my entire abdomen had
turned to stone, and the pain in the area got worse. However if
I ate sauerkraut or vinegar or something to 'cut' the fat it
wasn't as much of a problem.
So the doctor says I have cholistatis, and that I should avoid
fatty foods. This makes sense, and because I was already aware
of what seemed to me this cause and effect relationship I have
been avoiding these foods on my own. But I'm still able to eat
foods with Ricotta cheese for instance and other low fat foods.
But doc wants me to be on a non-fat diet. This means no meat
except fish and chicken w/o skin (I do this anyway). No nuts,
fried food, cheese etc. I am allowed skim milk. She said I
should avoid anything sweet (e.g. bananas). Also I must only
have one serving of something high in carbohydrates a day (
potatoes, pasta, rice)! She said I can't even cook vegetables in
a little bit of oil and that I should eat vegetables raw or
steamed. I'm concerned because I understand you need to have
some fat in your diet to help in the digestive process. And if
I'm not taking in fat, is she expecting the baby will take it
from my stores? And why this restriction on carbohydrates if
she's concerned about fat? I'm not clear how much of her
recommendation is based on my weight gain and how much on
cholistatis, which I can't seem to find any information on. She
originally said that I should only gain 20 pounds during the
entire pregnancy since I was about 20 lbs overweight when I
started. But my sister gained 60 lbs during her pregnancy and
she's taken it all off and hasn't had any problems. She also
asked if any members of my family were obese, which none of them
are. Anyway I think she is overly concerned about weight gain,
and feel like I'm being 'punished' by a severe diet. She did
want to see me again in one week so I think she the diet may be
temporary for that one week.
What I want to know is how reasonable is this non-fat diet? I
would understand if she had said low-fat diet, since I'm trying
that anyway, even if she said really low-fat diet. I think she
assumes I must be eating a high-fat diet, but really it is that
because of the endometriosis and the operation I'm not able to
use the energy from the food I do eat.
Any opinions, info and experiences will be appreciated. I'm
truly going stark raving mad trying to meet this new strict diet
because fruits and vegetables go through my system in a few
minutes and I'll end up having to eat constantly. Thus far I
don't find any foods satisfying.
Thanks
G
|
9528 | From: make@cs.tu-berlin.de (M. Kerkhoff)
Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Foundation Classes with Borland C++ 3.1
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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Hi all,
has anybody tried to compile CTRLTEST from the MFC/SAMPLES directory,
after compiling the MFC-libs with BWC ?
Seems to me, that BWC isn't able to distinguish pointers to overloaded
functions.
For example, imagine the following 2 (overloaded) functions:
void same_name ( void )
void same_name ( int )
After trying the whole day, I think, with BWC its impossible to take the
adress of one of the above two functions and assign it to a properly defined
function pointer.
Am I right ? Has anybody else had this problem ?
thanx
|
9529 | From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: was:Go Hezbollah!
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: NCSU Chem Eng
Lines: 128
In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes:
|
|> In article <Apr15.175334.72079@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes:
|> >
|> >It is NOT a "terrorist camp" as you and the Israelis like
|> >to view the villages they are small communities with kids playing soccer
|> >in the streets, women preparing lunch, men playing cards, etc.....
|> >SOME young men, usually aged between 17 to 30 years are members of
|> >the Lebanese resistance. Even the inhabitants of the village do not
|> >know who these are, they are secretive about it, but most people often
|> >suspect who they are and what they are up to. These young men are
|> >supported financially by Iran most of the time. They sneak arms and
|> >ammunitions into the occupied zone where they set up booby traps
|> >for Israeli patrols. Every time an Israeli soldier is killed or injured
|> >by these traps, Israel retalliates by indiscriminately bombing villages
|> >of their own choosing often killing only innocent civilians.
|>
|> This a "tried and true" method utilized by guerilla and terrorists groups:
|> to conduct operations in the midst of the local populace, thus forcing the
|> opposing "state" to possible harm innocent civilians in their search or,
|> in order to avoid the deaths of civilians, abandon the search. Certainly the
|> people who use the population for cover are *also* to blaim for dragging the
|> innocent civilians into harm's way.
|>
|> Are you suggesting that, when guerillas use the population for cover, Israel
|> should totally back down? So...the easiest way to get away with attacking
|> another is to use an innocent as a shield and hope that the other respects
|> innocent lives?
Tell me Tim, what are these guerillas doing wrong? Assuming that they are using
civilians for cover, are they not killing SOLDIERS in THEIR country? If the
buffer zone is to prevent attacks on Israel, is it not working? Why is it
further neccessary for Israeli guns to pound Lebanese villages? Why not just
kill those who try to infiltrate the buffer zone? You see, there is more to
the shelling of the villages.... it is called RETALIATION... "GETTING BACK"
..."GETTING EVEN". It doesn't make sense to shell the villages. The least
it shows is a reckless disregard by the Israeli government for the lives of
civilians.
|> >If Israel insists that
|> >the so called "Security Zone" is necessary for the protection of
|> >Northern Israel, than it will have to pay the price of its occupation
|> >with the blood of its soldiers.
|> >If Israel is interested in peace, than it should withdraw from OUR land.
|>
|> What? So the whole bit about attacks on Israel from neighboring Arab states
|> can start all over again? While I also hope for this to happen, it will
|> only occur WHEN Arab states show that they are *prepared* to take on the
|> responsibility and the duty to stop guerilla attacks on Israel from their
|> soil. They have to Prove it (or provide some "guaratees"), there is no way
|> Israel is going to accept their "word"- not with their past attitude of
|> tolerance towards "anti-Israel guerillas in-residence".
If Israel is not willing to accept the "word" of others then, IMHO, it has
no business wasting others' time coming to the peace talks.
|> >
|> >I have written before on this very newsgroup, that the only
|> >real solution will come as a result of a comprehensive peace
|> >settlement whereby Israel withdraws to its own borders and
|> >peace keeping troops are stationed along the border to insure
|> >no one on either side of the border is shelled.
|>
|> Good lord, Brad. [....]
No, I am not Basil. I think Basil is a very intelligent person and I
respect what he writes. Basil is a person that I would gladly call
a friend. He is, however, not me. Nor am I Lebanese, as some seem to
suspect.
|> >This is the only realistic solution, it is time for Israel to
|> >realize that the concept of a "buffer zone" aimed at protecting
|> >its northern cities has failed. In fact it has caused much more
|> >Israeli deaths than the occasional shelling of Northern Israel
|> >would have resulted in.
|>
|> Perhaps you are aware that, to most communities of people, there is
|> the feeling that it is better that "many of us die fighting
|> against those who attack us than for few to die while we silently
|> accept our fate." If,however, you call on Israel to see the sense of
|> suffering fewer casualties, I suggest you apply the same to Palestinian,
|> Arab and Islamic groups.
Tim, you are ignoring the fact that the Palestinians in Lebanon have been
disarmed. Hezbollah remains the only independent militia. Hezbollah does
not attack Israel except at a few times such as when the IDF burned up
Sheikh Mosavi, his wife, and young son. Of course, if Israel would withdraw
from Lebanon and stop assassinating people and shelling villages they wouldn't
make the Lebanese so mad as to do that. Furthermore, with Hezbollah
subsequently disarmed, it would not be possible.
|> >and now the Lebanese government has proven that it is
|> >capable of controlling and disarming all militias as they did
|> >in all other parts of Lebanon.
|> >
|> >Basil
|>
|> It has not. Without the support, and active involvement, of Syria,
|> Lebanon would not have been able to accomplish all that has occurred.
|> Once Syria leaves who is to say that Lebanon will be able to retain
|> control? If Syria stays thay may be even more dangerous for Israel.
Tim, when is the last time that you recall any trouble on the Syrian border?
Not lately, eh?
Israel knows very well that the Syrians are able to restrain ALL who would use
territory under their control to attack Israel. While Lebanon would be better
off with Syria and Israel out of its borders, the presence of Syrian troops
in Lebanon has meant a sharp decrease in attacks on Israeli territory (not on
Israeli troops in Lebanon, however. Please note the distinction) in the
past two years.
|> >
|> Tim
|>
|> Your view of this entire matter is far too serenely one-sided and
|> selectively naive.
I disagree, Basil has always seemed to me to be a cool-headed person, slow
to anger (certainly more so than I). What is most important is that he is an
actual witness to things from the other end of the Israeli guns. If only the
Israeli government would remember what it was like when the roles were
reversed perhaps they would moderate their "retaliation".
Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
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9530 | From: Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu>
Subject: Re: Rumours about 3DO ???
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7F81FD2F801023C@seanmac.acs.unt.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 19 Apr 93 15: 22:26 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
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First off: Thanks to all who have filled me in on the existence of the
68070. I assumed rashly that the particular number would be reserved for
further enhancements to the Motorola line, rather than meted out to
another company. Ah, well, I guess that's what I get when I assume the
computer industry will operate in a logical manner! ;-)
In article <1993Apr16.212441.34125@rchland.ibm.com> Ricardo Hernandez
Muchado, ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com writes:
> Sean, I don't want to get into a 'mini-war' by what I am going to say,
>but I have to be a little bit skeptic about the performance you are
>claiming on the Centris, you'll see why (please, no-flames, I reserve
>those for c.s.m.a :-) )
>
> I was in Chicago in the last consumer electronics show, and Apple had
a
>booth there. I walked by, and they were showing real-time video capture
>using a (Radious or SuperMac?) card to digitize and make right on the
spot
>quicktime movies. I think the quicktime they were using was the old one
>(1.5).
Version 1.5 of Quicktime is, as has been stated, the current version of
the software. The older version is 1.0, and 1.6 is on the horizon in the
not too distant future.
> They digitized a guy talking there in 160x2xx something. It played
back quite
>nicely and in real time. The guy then expanded the window (resized) to
25x by
>3xx (320 in y I think) and the frame rate decreased enough to notice
that it
>wasn't 30fps (or about 30fps) anymore. It dropped to like 15 fps. Then
he
>increased it just a bit more, and it dropped to 10<->12 fps.
Quicktime does a much better job of playing back movies at size than it
does playing back resized movies. Apparently the process of expanding
each frame's image and dithering the resultant bitmap to the appropriate
bit depth is pretty processor-intensive. There are optimizers that work
pretty well for showing movies at double size, but if you drop to 1.9x
size or increase to 2.1x size, performance suffers dramatically.
> Then I asked him what Mac he was using... He was using a Quadra
(don't know
>what model, 900?) to do it, and he was telling the guys there that the
Quicktime
>could play back at the same speed even on an LCII.
He lied. :-) Quicktime is very CPU dependent. He was probably confused by
the fact that QT is locked to an internal timecode, and will play in the
same amount of time on any machine. However, an LC will drop frames in
order to keep the sound and video synced up.
The Centris and Quadras have similar CPUs and will thus boast similar
performance, though the Quadras will be a bit faster due to marginally
faster clock speeds and somewhat different architecture.
> Well, I spoiled his claim so to say, since a 68040 Quadra Mac was
having
>a little bit of trouble. And this wasn't even from the hardisk! This
was
>from memory!
>
> Could it be that you saw either a newer version of quicktime, or some
>hardware assisted Centris, or another software product running the
>animation (like supposedly MacroMind's Accelerator?)?
I expect that the version of the Quicktime software you saw was 1.0 -- I
was using was 1.5. One of the new codecs in v1.5 allows video at nearly
twice the size and the same frame rate as what version 1.0 could handle.
The Centris 650 I saw was a plain-vanilla, with the exception of the nice
speakers that were playing the sound, and the software was Movie Player,
the QT player Apple includes with the software.
> Don't misunderstand me, I just want to clarify this.
No problem -- it still surprises me that Quicktime is able to do the
things it does as well as it can.
========================================================================
Sean McMains | Check out the Gopher | Phone:817.565.2039
University of North Texas | New Bands Info server | Fax :817.565.4060
P.O. Box 13495 | at seanmac.acs.unt.edu | E-Mail:
Denton TX 76203 | | McMains@unt.edu
|
9531 | From: Arthur.Greene@p6.f204.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Greene)
Subject: SIMM vs DRAM
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/204.6 - Not Even Odd, Forest Hills NY
Lines: 9
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a 256K DRAM chip and a
256K SIMM? I need the former (I think) to add memory to my Laserwriter
LS. Someone is offering to sell me 256K SIMMS he removed from an SE, but
I have a feeling this may not be the correct form of memory. The sockets
in the Laserwriter look like they want the spidery-shaped chips (there
are 4 sockets, each with, as I recall, 20 pins, arranged in two rows of 10). Believe it or not, I've never actually seen a SIMM. Help appreciated.
--
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
Arthur Greene - Internet: Arthur.Greene@p6.f204.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
|
9532 | From: erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: And America's Team is....But Why?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 20
kingoz@camelot.bradley.edu (Orin Roth) writes:
> Well, my guess is because America loves underdogs. Every year, no matter
> the Cubs' talent or the predictions, they never (as close to never as
> possible) win anything. Over the years, as the losing has mounted, America
> has fallen in love with these perennial losers. The Cubs have more fans
> in Chicago then some teams do worldwide. The Cubs have more fans
> worldwide than most of the teams in their division combined.
> An aura of excitement surrounds the Cubs at the beginning of the season
> like no one else. (including the WS champs) It must be that Eternal Hope.
Actually I admired the spirit of the fan at the Cubs opener several years
ago who held up a sign that said "Wait Till Next Year".
-----
Eric Smith | "He threatened me! If it was a President of the
erics@netcom.com | United States you'd investigate! ... What's the
erics@infoserv.com | difference? I'm a Comedian of the United States!"
CI$: 70262,3610 | - Jerry Seinfeld
|
9533 | Subject: E-mail of Michael Abrash?
From: gmontem@eis.calstate.edu (George A. Montemayor)
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services
Lines: 0
|
9534 | From: cmd@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (craig.m.dinsmore)
Subject: VCR, Cassette, Generator, tube tester, lawn spreader
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Keywords: forsale
Lines: 21
For Sale:
VCR - Samsung VR2610 basic 2 head machine. It has a problem loading the tape,
otherwise it plays and records just fine, remote is missing. $25 or make offer.
Cassette deck - Pioneer CT-F900, three head, servo control, dolby. This was
the top of the line (or close to it) several years ago. The rewind doesn't
work well. All else is fine. Service & owners manual included. $45 or offer.
Generator - 120 VAC 2000-2500 watt, has a voltmeter w/duplex outlet, a 5 hp
engine should drive it to full output. Manufactered by Master Mechanic in
Burlington Wisconsin. $50 or make an offer
EICO Model 625 tube tester. $20 or make offer
Lawn spreader - Scott "precision flow" model PF-1 drop type, excellent
condition, ideal for a smaller yard. $20 or make offer.
Craig days: 979-0059 home: 293-5739
|
9535 | From: cs000rdw@selway.umt.edu (Richard D Warner)
Subject: UART-CPU-ROM-RAM subsystem
Keywords: cheap, low-cost, small $$$
Organization: University of Montana
Lines: 21
This is a followup post to something I've written previously. Several
people responded with good information, but I don't think I communicated
exactly what I am looking for.
I'm working on a custom I/O device that will communicate with a host
via RS-232. My custom circuitry will use an 80C186EB or EC CPU and require
about 64K of RAM (preferably FLASH RAM). In looking around, I see that lots
of people have engineered UART-CPU-ROM-RAM subsystems that are ready to be
interfaced to your custom I/O devices. It's been done so much, that it
would be best if I can avoid reinventing a system. It just needs to use
an 80C186 (or 188) CPU, and be able to load a program from the host then
transfer control to that program. Well, there's one other thing the ROM
needs to know how to do. It should have routines to send and receive bytes
to/from the host, that utilize the hardware control lines (DTR,RTS,DTS,CTS).
Everything I've seen is in the $200.00 and up range. That's too much for
this application. I need something around $100.00. The CPU has the UART
built-in, so you're only looking at a few chips. Does anyone know a
company that markets a good board in this range, or some public domain
circuitry I can use? Thanks in advance for the info.
Rich
|
9536 | From: doc@webrider.central.sun.com (Steve Bunis SE Southwest Chicago)
Subject: Cobra Locks
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Lines: 27
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: doc@webrider.central.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: webrider.central.sun.com
I was posting to Alt.locksmithing about the best methods for securing
a motorcycle. I got several responses referring to the Cobra Lock
(described below). Has anyone come across a store carrying this lock
in the Chicago area?
Any other feedback from someone who has used this?
Thanks for any info.,
Steve
In article 1r1534INNraj@shelley.u.washington.edu, basiji@stein.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>
> Incidentally, the best lock I've found for bikes is the Cobra Lock.
> It's a cable which is shrouded by an articulated, hardened steel sleeve.
> The lock itself is cylindrical and the locking pawl engages the joints
> at the articulation points so the chain can be adjusted (like handcuffs).
> You can't get any leverage on the lock to break it open and the cylinder
> is well-protected. I wouldn't want to cut one of these without a torch
> and/or a vice and heavy duty cutting wheel.
>
---
Steve Bunis, Sun Microsystems ***DoD #0795*** 93-ST1100
Itasca, IL ***AMA #682049*** 78-KZ650
|
9537 | From: bluelobster+@cmu.edu (David O Hunt)
Subject: Conversions
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 13
On 12-Apr-93 in Environmentalism and paganism
user Michael Covington@aisun3 writes:
>I would like to see Christians devote a bit less effort to _bashing_
>paganism and more to figuring out how to present the Gospel to pagans.
>
>Christ is the answer; the pagans have a lot of the right questions.
>Unlike materialists, who deny the need for any spirituality.
And what of those of us who already have answers to their questions without
turning to christianity (or, in my case, any religion)? Whay RIGHT do you
have to presume to lecture me about what I should believe??
David Hunt
|
9538 | From: jar2e@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Virginia's Gentleman)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Signs That It's the Age of Aquarius on Pennsylvania Avenue
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 11
In regard to Woody's post, I thought I would remind him of something in
the midst of his tirade against academia:
As a member of the generation likely to pay for the crap Reagan and his cronies started with the deficit according to the brilliant Laffer curve (NOT!) I
think we need to look with open minds upon any ideas which will allow us
to directly address the problems of the gigantic federal deficit and debt and
continue to allow our economy to expand--and I don't remember Woody and co.
complaining about academia while Laffer implemented his policy, Stockman
approved it while being fully aware the numbers not adding up, and Reagan
completing the largest con job of the century which my generation and I will now have to pay for.
Jesse
|
9539 | Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
From: <U49839@uicvm.uic.edu>
Subject: Re: White Sox Update
<1993Apr11.213102.4954@midway.uchicago.edu>
Lines: 9
i think lamont is tryin sax out in left because he is messing with his
mind. he is trying to stir loose the mental block that he has had.
sax was supposed to play in left last night (4-14) but we were rained
out. it's not like we need to add any more outfielders to our team.
it's mental
jimmy
go sox, cubs suck! (that's the white sox, dontcha know?)
|
9540 | From: holland@geop.ubc.ca (Stephen Holland)
Subject: Re: My Predictions of a classic playoff year!
Organization: Geophysics & Astronomy, U.B.C. Vancouver, Canada
Lines: 20
Distribution: world
Reply-To: holland@geop.ubc.ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: crisium.astro.ubc.ca
In article 12934@ac.dal.ca, 06paul@ac.dal.ca () writes:
>
> STANLEY CUP FINALS
>Toronto Maple Leafs vs Montreal Canadiens
> (The Classic Stanley Cup Final matchup!!) <---also a dream come true!
> Montreal wins the Stanley cup in the 7th game 1 - 0 in double overtime.
You know... after I finished laughing I thought: This would be a great
final. Two Canadian teams with lots of tradition and all that Don Cherry
nonsense behind them and a nail-biter finish.
Of course, I would prefer a Vancouver--Montreal final with Vancouver
scoring the final goal....
Pity neither will happen.
steve holland
|
9541 | From: tpremo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Cinnamon Bear)
Subject: Optonica tuner and Integrated amp forsale:
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: na
Lines: 29
I have an old Optonica tuner and integrated amp that I no longer
use. The integrated amp section does not work right now but should
not cost much to fix. I believe that it is just a Chip. I have
used it as a preamp and it works great!
This is a very nice looking and well built set. They both are low
profile but the amp is rather heavy.
The tuner is in fine working condition and is a match to the amp.
The amp is rated at 75w/ch.
These peices went for about $850 New.
I would like to get $150. obo for the pair.
If anybody has knowledge anough to fix the amp, I have had an estimate
done that it should cost less than $50 in parts.
Please email me if you are interested. I will be moving back home for
the summer and will sell it back there if I do not do so here.
Todd
--
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(___________________________________ % Todd Premo
/ / / % Purdue Universtiy
/ __ __ / __ / % Environmental Engineering
|
9542 | From: fsset@bach.lerc.nasa.gov (Scott Townsend)
Subject: Electric power line "balls"
Nntp-Posting-Host: bach.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]
Distribution: usa
Lines: 18
I got a question from my dad which I really can't answer and I'd appreciate
some net.wisdom.
His question is about some 18-24" diameter balls which are attached to
electric power lines in his area. He's seen up to a half dozen between
two poles. Neither of us have any experience with electric power distribution.
My only guess was that they may be a capacitive device to equalize the
inductance of the grid, but why so many between two poles?.
Anyone know what they really are? Is there a related FAQ for this?
Is there a better group to submit to?
We'd both appreciate some enlightenment.
--
Scott Townsend, Sverdrup Technology Inc. NASA Lewis Research Center Group
fsset@bach.lerc.nasa.gov
|
9543 | From: gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI revenge
Keywords: BATF FBI Korash "child abuse" guns murder CONTROL
Reply-To: glenns@eas.gatech.edu
Organization: The Group W Bench
Lines: 17
In <2077@rwing.UUCP> pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes:
>Anybody for impeachment?
Yeah, me. Both the Slickmeister and Hillary's buddy Janet say
they're responsible... I want both their resignations on my desk
yesterday. I also want both thier butts up on federal civil rights
violations.... something which carries life in prison as a penalty.
Oh, and I'll contribute $20 to Arlen Specter's presidential campaign
for having the 'nads to launch the Senate investigation.
-- Glenn R. Stone (glenns@eas.gatech.edu) ==================
America in Distress ==================
(flag upside down = SOS) *******===========
Save your Republic before *******===========
it no longer exists. *******===========
|
9544 | From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman)
Subject: Re: That silly outdated Bill (was Re: Koresh and Miranda)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Lines: 52
In article <1qibs0$flk@vela.acs.oakland.edu> awesley@vela.acs.oakland.edu (awesley) writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.225910.14964@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
i]>>Since there was no sniper fire, doing nothing was equally effective,
>>as was yelling "stop that". Of course, if one wants to credit the
>>tanks with stopping non-existent sniper fire, we might was well credit
>>it with stopping an invasion by Martians.
>>
>>See "Firearms, Violence and Civil Disorders" (from SRI) and "Sniping
>>Incidents - A New Pattern of Violence" (from Brandeis University's
>>Lemberg Center for the Study of Violence).
>
>>>>There was precisely ONE
>>>>verified sniper in the 67 riots, a drunk firing a pistol out a window.
>
>Actually, there was only one confirmed sniper to >die< in Detroit,
>according to Sauter & Hines, _Nightmare in Detroit, A Rebellion & It's
What sources did Sauter and Hines use? In Congressional hearings
later, the newspaper folk admitted that their reports were completely
wrong. (Some of their excuses are understandable, while others amount
to gross negligence. Then there's their "we lied".) As far as I
know, they never did the followup.
>>So? People other than snipers can shoot firemen. If they are,
>>shooting at "snipers" can't help. Blowing big holes in buildings that
>>don't contain "sniper nests" or worrying about travelling "sniper
>>squads" is a complete waste of time.
>
>Interesting. Just curious, they do you believe that tanks did blow
>big holes in buildings in Detroit 67?
I don't have any relevant knowledge about the counter-sniper tactics
or what the govt did with the big war toys. That's why I've only
commented on what they couldn't have accomplished, no matter what
they did.
>>Nope - the "sniper" fire was coming from other police/guard positions.
>
>The guard certainly needed to learn. But I don't agree with the
>idea that there were no snipers at all. From p. 121 of Sauter & Hines:
>
> "Despite the force of the National Guard in alliance with the
>Army troops, the snipers did not stop. The snipers boldly lay siege to the
>Fifth Precent police station and took pot shots at the Seventh. Firemen
>were under constant harassment from snipers fired from half-closed
>darkened windows in high apartment buildings and from roof-tops."
Not in Detroit, not during the 60s. That's newspaper copy and they
admitted later that they were wrong.
-andy
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9545 | From: TAL@brownvm.brown.edu ()
Subject: EPS Technologies; experience anyone?
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island USA
Lines: 29
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
Summary: 486dx 33mhz, recommendations, EPS
X-News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta
After a rough start purchasing a 486 system (see earlier post), I'm trying
again. I'm looking at the following system offered by EPS Technologies:
- 486dx 33mhz w/ 256K static RAM cache,AMI Bios
- 3 32-bit VESA local bus slots, 3 16-bit slots, 1 8-bit slot
- Teac 1.2 & 1.44 mb floppy drives
- Maxtor 170 MB hard drive (15 ms) IDE w/64K cache buffer
- 32-bit vesa local bus video card w/ 1mb RAM 1024 X 768 NI (I *think* it's an
Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 card)
- 14" NI Multisync monitor 1024 X 768
- 101 Keyboard
- 200 Watt power supply
- Windows 3.1, Mouse, DOS 6.0
- *3* years limited warranty
- 1 year on-site service
I'm probably going to add the $125 for a 15" flat-screen digital monitor, and
will also want to go for at least 8 mb RAM ($159 extra).
Has anyone bought from EPS Technologies, particularly a system like the one
I'm considering. I'm especially interested in their warrantee and service.
Can anyone recommend other companies who offer similar packages, with support,
and comparable prices (I see FastMicro just bit it...).
Thanks in advance,
-Toby Loftus
TAL@BROWNVM
TAL@brownvm.brown.edu
Brown University
|
9546 | From: pwg25888@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Patrick W. Grady)
Subject: Re: Did any DC-X gifs show up?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 30
fils@iastate.edu (Douglas R Fils) writes:
>In article <1qgiah$h9g@news.cerf.net> diaspar@nic.cerf.net (Diaspar Virtual Reality Network) writes:
>>The rollout was great and I got lots of great shots. I attended
>>the press briefing and got shots of the DC-Y model, too. All
>>in 3D
>>
>>David H. Mitchell
>>
>>
>David,
> Are you still planing on scanning these and posting them
>somewhere? Hope Hope Hope. If you could that would be GREAT.
>Thanks for report of the rollout as well
>take care
>Doug
They did the rollout already??!? I am going to have to pay more
attention to the news. Are any of the gifs headed for wuarchive??
Patrick
--
Patrick Grady |How do they manage it, these humans-beginning
pwg25888@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu |each time so innocently, yet always ending up
pwg25888@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu |with the most blood on their hands?
|Fathertree to bugger, O.S. Card's _Xenocide_
|
9547 | From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Subject: Re: History question
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Lines: 30
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu
In article <1qnroe$d1n@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher) writes:
>An now-deceased prof told us willing students about a project he had
>worked on during WWII.
>
>They needed a mega-power PA with very clear audio quality. The purpose
>was to bellow at refugees from aircraft.
>
>Their solution was a giant compressed-air source, and a horn with
>parallel shutters worked by a small audio system. I think he said it
>worked very well, thus the War Dept. cancelled the project ;_}.
Gee, I got the idea from somewhere that devices like this were in common
use in WWII, so that commanders on board ships could bellow at the troops
landing on a beach, for example.
Which reminds me of an anecdote from the mid-60s. At a communications
conference a Marine Corps communications officer said he didn't care
much for all the spread-spectrum multi-access expensive communication
systems that people were talking about at the time; what he wanted
was a kilowatt broadcast transmitter on the ship and a $4.95 Japanese
transistor radio stuck in the ear of every Marine hitting the beach.
--
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet
"Ya can talk all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint! But ya gotta know the territory!"
Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
|
9548 | From: tlc@cx5.com
Subject: .SCF files, help needed
Reply-To: tlc@cx5.com
Organization: CX5 (San Francisco)
Lines: 24
I've got an old demo disk that I need to view. It was made using RIX Softworks.
The files on the two diskette set end with: .scf
The demo was VGA resolution (256 colors), but I don't know the spatial
resolution.
First problem: When I try to run the demo, the screen has two black bars that
cut across (horizontally) the screen, in the top third and bottom third of the
screen. The bars are about 1-inch wide. Other than this, the demo (the
animation part) seems to be running fine.
Second problem: I can't find any graphics program that will open and display
these files. I have a couple of image conversion programs, none mention .scf
files.
The system I am using: 486clone, Diamond Speedstar 24, Sony monitor.
Any suggestions?
Thank You,
T. Castro
tlc@cx5.com
|
9549 | From: coffey@cptc2.neep.wisc.edu (Robert L. Coffey)
Subject: Re: Questions...
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin,Madison., NEEP Department
Lines: 35
>4. Who exactly is "The Lord"? "God" or Jesus Christ?
John 1:1 says (NKJV - the little green gideon someone forced on me one day)
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
God." The Word refers to Jesus Christ so from this John declares that God
and Jesus are one. Therefore, "The Lord" refers to both. Also, David in the
Psalms refers to both God in heaven and the coming messiah as his Lord. Once
again this refers to God and Jesus.
>5. What is the definition of a "Truly religious" person? Should he/she not
swear/curse? Does it say anything about this in the bible?
Some of the most "truly religious" people I've known have not been Christians
and some of the greatest Christians I've known have been truly irreligious.
However, to answer your question:
The bible speaks of this in many places, A previous post to James is a good
one. Another is Psalm 15:
"Lord, who may abide in your tabernacle? Who may dwell in your holy hill? He
who walks uprightly, and works righteousness, and speaks the truth in his heart
He who does not backbite with his tongue, nor does evil to his neighbor, nor
does he take up a reproach against his friend; I whose eyes a vile person is
despised, but he honors those who fear the Lord; he who swears to his own hurt
and does not change; He who does not put out money at usury, nor does he take
a bribe aginst the innocent. He who does these things shall never be moved."
------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Coffey "Indeed the safest road to
coffey@cptc1.neep.wisc.edu Hell is the gradual one- the
(if you send mail to cptc2 gentle slope, soft underfoot,
I'll never read it) without sudden turnings,
without milestones, without
signposts." -- Screwtape
------------------------------------------------------------
The day Techwood meets the wrecking ball the world shall rejoice.
But I'll have lost a former home.
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9550 | From: dholle15@ursa.calvin.edu (David Hollebeek)
Subject: Phillies Mailing List?
Nntp-Posting-Host: ursa
Organization: Calvin College
Lines: 7
Anyone know of a phillies mailing list out there? .... they don't get much
coverage up here in Grand Rapids, MI *sob*
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Elaborate .signature files are for people who aren't as busy as I am" -DH 1992
---------------------David-Hollebeek---dholle15@ursa.calvin.edu----------------
|
9551 | Subject: Re: Finnally, the Phils have support
From: kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu (Dave 'Almost Cursed the Jays' Kirsch)
Organization: Li'l Carlos and the Hormones
Nntp-Posting-Host: staff.tc.umn.edu
Lines: 18
In article <C4yxMJ.BLE@news.udel.edu> philly@bach.udel.edu (Robert C Hite) writes:
[Most of tirade deleted .. I have an editor and know how to use it]
>
>Okay we've been conservative and added about 18 wins so far. Now
>we're adding about 4 more wins thanks to the expansion teams...
>Okay, thats 22 wins. Lesse dipshit math genuious, 72 + 22 = 94
>Hmmm... I think thats good enough to win the worse division in
>baseball?
>
>Next time, before you say something foolish, get a clue first!
Either this is an example of *great* sarcasm or I'm really, really worried.
--
Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch Blue Jays - Do it again in '93
kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu New .. quotes out of context!
"Not to beat a dead horse, but it's been a couple o' weeks .. this
disappoints me..punishments..discharges..jackhammering.." - Stephen Lawrence
|
9552 | From: gmw0622@venus.tamu.edu (Mr. Grinch)
Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...)
Organization: GrinchCo
Lines: 73
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.tamu.edu
Summary: Feasibility considered
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <1993Apr18.174237.11229@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes...
>
:I'm not sure why you don't consider it an option. No one suggests that
:such analysis should be left to "regulators." In fact, the "re-inventing
:government" movement provides just such a cost/benefit approach to the
:analysis of public spending. Libertarians would do well to learn more
:about it.
Okay, let me try to explain this.
When one votes for such a creature as a Senator or, worse yet, a President,
one votes not for specific policies but for a general package which must cover
all issues for 4 or 6 years. As such, one's influence is highly diluted.
I might add that, even if one were free to vote on individual regulations,
the vast amount of time required for considering a particular regulation,
combined with the very small chance of one's vote making a difference, would
make it unreasonable to expect the voter to make an intelligent decision
with respect to specific regulations.
>
>
:Sorry, but it strikes me that it is the only "feasible" approach. What is
:not feasible is a wholesale attack on all government regulation and
:licensing that treats cutting hair and practicing medicine as equivalent
:tasks.
I'm not sure what you mean by "feasible" in this case. Do you mean that
[] are impossible in priciple, or merely that it would be undesirable in
fact?
:Actually, the only areas of public spending above that strike me as
:generating substantial support among libertarians are police and defense.
2 of the four you saw fit to mention, and education of minors is always
another possibility, since minors are generally considered not to be
responsible to make their own decisions as adults are.
:(It is an interesting aside that as committed as libertarians claim to
:be to a principle of non-coercion, the only areas of public spending
:that they frequently support involve hiring people with guns....hmmm...)
You say this as if it were surprising, yet in fact a necessary consequence
of libertarian philosophy. All non-coersive functions should be dealt
with privately, therefore it follows that the only functions remaining to
the state are the coersive ones.
>
:Perhaps you have. May I suggest that you consider that revolutionaries
:frequently generate support by acting as protectors of "geezers,"
:mothers and children. Governments that ignore such people on the grounds
:that "we don't have much to fear" from them do so at their own peril.
Much more likely it's drunken teenagers. The groups in questionare more
likely
to be worse off during and after a revolution than before. In the unlikely
event that you missed my earlier sarcasm, let me say this directly:
The idea that such programs as Social Security or AFDC should be considered
"defense" (an idea which has been advanced in ths and other newsgroups) is
so absurd a lie as to be unworthy of consideration. Do you seriously
dispute this?
I don't want to seem patronizing, but you still seem to be laboring
under the delusion that under a socialized economic system it is reasonably
intelligent and honest persons (like yourself) who make the decisions.
I feel any third party added to a transaction is every bit as likely to be
ignorant or corrupt as the buyer or seller. I don't expect you to agree
with me, but you explain why you feel I'm wrong?
Mr. Grinch
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9553 | From: wayne@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (Tony Wayne)
Subject: speaker impedance help needed
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Charlottesville)
Lines: 7
I want to connect a very small "home-made" speaker
up to the headphone jack on my macintosh LC for an experiment.
The dc resistance of the speaker is 1 ohm. Any ideas how I can
do this safely? I think I need some kind of an impedance
transformer or something.?
-tony
wayne@uva386.school.virginia.edu
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9554 | From: dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard)
Subject: MIDI files on MS-Win3.1 and SoundBlaster 1.0?
Summary: How can I play midi files in MS-Windows 3.1 with a SB 1.0 card?
Keywords: MIDI, soundblaster, windows, ibm-pc
Organization: UB
Lines: 15
Nntp-Posting-Host: autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu
I have a 486DX-33 computer with a SoundBlaster 1.0 card. I'm running
Microsoft Windows v3.1. I have the SB driver set up properly to play
normal sounds (.WAV files, etc.). I want to play midi files through the
Media Player that is included with windows. I know I have to set up the
patch maps or something in the MIDI-Mapper in the Control Panel. I KNOW
NOTHING ABOUT MIDI. (This is to be the way I'll get my feet wet.)
How do I set up Windows so that I can play MIDI files?
--
David Thomas Dudek / v098pwxs@ubvms.bitnet \ __ _ The Cybard
State University / dudek@sun.acsu.buffalo.edu \ / `-' ) ,,,
of New York / "If music be the food of love, \ | | ()|||||||[:::}
@ Buffalo / play on!" - Wm. Shakespeare \ `__.-._) '''
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9555 | From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: Israel's Expansion II
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Lines: 16
ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
>I understand how israel captured the teritory and feels that it
>is its right to annex it. I can't fully understand why it has
>to deal with palestinians much the same way jews were treated
>before the holocaust (the Final Solution) by Hitler. What I
>totally don't get is why the U.S. has to subsidize the
>existance of such a thorough abuser of human rights.
> Just wondering
Seems that you're more "just misinformed" than "just wondering."
The comparison you're making is not just totally off base, but
offensive to all sane people.
--
Alan H. Stein astein@israel.nysernet.org
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9556 | From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Re: Too Many Europeans in NHL
Nntp-Posting-Host: lli.mach.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Lines: 26
In article <rauser.734062608@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>
>
> Ten years ago, the number of Europeans in the NHL was roughly a quarter
>of what it is now. Going into the 1992/93 season, the numbers of Euros on
>NHL teams have escalated to the following stats:
>
>Canadians: 400
>Americans: 100
>Europeans: 100
Xenophobic trash deleted.
> I'm all for the creation of a European Hockey League, and let the Bures
>and Selannes of the world play on their own continent.
>
> I just don't want them on mine.
If you're going to go to those extremes, I guess you'd better start
packing. Because unless you're a Native North American, this isn't
your continent either.
Lori
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9557 | From: tony@nexus.yorku.ca (Anthony Wallis)
Subject: "Choleric" and The Great NT/NF Semantic War.
Organization: York University
Lines: 64
[Cross-posted from alt.psychology.personality since it talks about
physician's personalities. Apologies to sci.med readers not
familiar with the Myers-Briggs "NT/NF" personality terms. But,
in a word or two, the NTs (iNtuitive->Thinkers) are approximately your
philosophy/science/tech pragmatic types, and the NFs (iNtuitive-Feelers)
are your humanities/social-"science"/theology idealistic types. They
hate each others' guts (:-)) but tend to inter-marry.
The letter "J" is a reference to conscienciousness/decisiveness.]
Jon Noring emits typical NF-type stuff
> [Physicians] are just responding in their natural way:
> Hyper-Choleric Syndrome (HCS). ..
> ..it is fascinating that a disproportionate number of
> physicians will type out as NT ..
> One driving characteristic of an NT, especially an NTJ, is their obvious
> choleric behavior (driver, type A, etc.) - the extreme emotional need to
> control, to lead, and/or to be the best or the most competent. ..
Please get it right, Jon.
(This NTJ has a strong desire to correct semantic mistakes,
because the NFs of this world are fouling the once-pristine NT
intellectual nest with their verbal poop.)
The dominant correlation is NT <-> Phlegmatic (and _not_ NT <-> Choleric).
One of the semantic roots of "choleric" is the idea of "hot" (emotional)
and one of the semantic roots of "phlegmatic" is "cold" (unemotional).
Here is a thumbnail sketch (taken from Hans Eysenck, refering to Wundt)
relating the Ancient Greek quadratic typology with modern terms:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Emotional
^
("Melancholic") | ("Choleric")
|
Thoughtful Suspicious | Quickly-aroused Hotheaded
Unhappy Worried | Egocentric Histrionic
Anxious | Exhibitonist
Serious | Active
Unchangeable < ------------------------------------------------> Changeable
Calm | Playful
Reasonable | Carefree
Steadfast Persistent | Hopeful Sociable
Highly-principled Controlled | Controlled Easy-going
|
("Phlegmatic") | ("Sanguine")
|
v
Non-emotional
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I suspect that your characterisation of NTs as "choleric" is what
you psych-types call a "projection" of your own NF-ness onto us.
> Maybe we need more NF doctor's. :^)
Perhaps in serious pediatics and "my little boy's got a runny
nose, doctor" general practice, but, please God, not in neurology,
opthamology, urology, etc. etc. And NF-psychiatry should seperate
from NT-(i.e. real) psychiatry and be given a new name .. something
like "channeling" :-).
--
tony@nexus.yorku.ca = Tony Wallis, York University, Toronto, Canada
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9558 | From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons Not to Aid Russians
Summary: Constitutional Basis of Foreign Aid
Organization: Historical Accuracy, Inc.
Lines: 22
Nntp-Posting-Host: thor.isc-br.com
In article <C513wJ.75y@encore.com> rcollins@ns.encore.com (Roger Collins) writes:
>...
>I ask myself, what law could we pass to prevent government from doing
>stupid, frivilous things with OUR money? Then I think, the Constitution
>was supposed to do that. Could someone please tell me what legitimate
>constitutional power the federal government is using when it takes money
>from my paycheck and gives it to needy countries? Seriously.
>
>Roger Collins
>
Since you asked, Article I Section 1. Article I Section 8. Article I
Section 10. Article II Section 2. Article VI. Sixteenth Amendment.
With this as a guide, try reading it yourself.
jsh
--
Steve Hendricks | DOMAIN: steveh@thor.ISC-BR.COM
"One thing about data, it sure does cut| UUCP: ...!uunet!isc-br!thor!steveh
the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826
|
9559 | From: gtonwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (Tony G. Wu)
Subject: Re: Need video drivers for Tseng True-color
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 26
Tony G. Wu (gtonwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw) wrote:
> Hello.
> I purchased a video card called ET-4000 true color card which
> can provide about 1700K colors. But the question is I can't find
> the corresponding drivers for windows 3.1 , I am now using 65k
> colors driver for win31. It works fine , but I think it will be
> better if I use 1700k driver. So, please tell me whether such a
> driver is available !
> Thanks in advance.
I am sorry. My card can display about 17000K colors not 1700K colors.
I hope some one could answer my question !
Thanks.
--
===================== ( Forever 23, Michael Jordan.) =====================
Tony G. Wu gtonwu@uz.nthu.edu.tw
CAE/Rheology Lab. NTHU. tony@che.nthu.edu.tw
|
9560 | From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Sandberg, Runs, RBIs (was: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series)
Originator: news@nimaster
Nntp-Posting-Host: crux.princeton.edu
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Lines: 36
In article <C5JqBy.M7A@news.rich.bnr.ca> bratt@crchh7a9.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Bratt) writes:
>In article <C5JM0M.6Jw@cs.dal.ca>, niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma) writes:
>|>
>|> Alomar fans left RBI fans and Runs off this list because they are dependant
>|> on the team. (To a large extent). If Frank Thomas hit first, he'd lose a LOT
>|> of RBI's; and anyways how many 2nd place hitters have you known to drive
>|> in 100 runs? Doesn't happen that often.....very unlikely with Devon White's
>|> ~.300 OBP in front of you...
>I'm pretty sure that Sandberg has done this at least once. (I know someone
>will correct me if I'm wrong.)
>RBIs and Runs scored are the two most important offensive statistics. You
>can talk about OBP and SLG% all you want, but the fact remains:
> The team that scores more runs wins the game!
> ---------------------------------------------
Right. So who cares which PLAYER gets credited, as long as the TEAM
gets more runs? If a player helps the TEAM get more R and RBI, but
doesn't score them all himself, who cares?
Consider:
Player A: single.
Player B: grounder to short; reaches on the force at 2nd.
Player C: Double, B to 3rd.
Player D: Sac fly.
B gets a run, D gets an RBI. Are you *sure* they helped the team
more than A and C? Think hard, now.
>Flame Away
As you wish.
Roger
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9561 | From: SITUNAYA@IBM3090.BHAM.AC.UK
Subject: HELP WANTED FOR DMORF.......!
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom
Lines: 6
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm3090.bham.ac.uk
==============================================================================
Please bear with me as i am new at this game, i apologize unreservedly if i hav
e posted another message earlier by mistake. but i digress, could anyone out th
ere please explain exactly what DMORF does (dtax.exe). Does it simply fade one
bitmap into another or does it reshape one bitmap into another. Excuse my ignor
ance.....
|
9562 | From: ngai@nova.bellcore.com (John Ngai)
Subject: How to disable reverse video on xterm/man
Nntp-Posting-Host: nova.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Lines: 22
Well I am not sure if this is the right newsgroup to ask, but let me try anyway.
I am running xterm and like all UNIX users, I run man <something>. Recently,
I switched to Solaris 2.1, and their man pages are littered with ".I" directives
that are somehow translated into reverse video when displayed by man under xterm.
The resulting output (admittedly a personal taste) is very ANNOYING to look at.
Back when I was using SunOS 4.1.2, I remember their man pages have some keywords
displayed with underlining....
So my question is how do I change the xterm's behaviour under ".I" directives
for nroff man pages, to perhaps underlining, or at least disabling it. (".B"
directives are fine, I like them. And of course, I don't want to go in and edit
the man pages inputs...) Somehow, xterm allows one to specify both a normal font
and a bold font, but not an italic font??
Any pointers, suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks -- John
P.S. Running xterm -rv won't work, I tried...
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9563 | From: tim.marshall%goucher@wb3ffv.ampr.org (Tim Marshall)
Subject: VAX PRICING
Distribution: world
Organization: Goucher College, Towson, MD
Reply-To: tim.marshall%goucher@wb3ffv.ampr.org (Tim Marshall)
Lines: 25
Hello All,
Goucher College will soon be retiring a MicroVax II, world case,
2 70MB Hard Drives, 16 port I/O, 2 MB (maybe 4MB) system memory.
Any idea as to how much we can expect to get for this machine on
the open market??
Please reply privately to:
tim.marshall%goucher@wb3ffv.ampr.org
Thanks in advance.....
*//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////*
* *
* Tim Marshall - Associate Director, Academic Computing *
* Goucher College, Baltimore, MD. All opinions are mine alone. *
* Documentation - A manual which tells you how to use a program, *
* system, or utility one version ago, and which is now unsupported.*
* *
*//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////*
|
9564 | From: colling@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge)
Subject: Re: Truly a sad day for hockey
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)
Summary: Norm Greene Happenings
Lines: 20
In article 27089, alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Mad Dog) reports:
>A fine 26 year history came to a close tonight, as the Minnesota North Stars,
>or Norm's Stars (whichever you prefer) lost to the Red Wings by a score of
>5-3. The Stars goals were scored by Mike McPhee and Ulf Dahlen, who netted
>two including the final one in franchise history, with less than a minute to
>play.
Are there any further stories to report on the eve' of Norm's farewell
from the twin cities? In an earlier post, it was announced that Norm
Green was given until midnight of the last home-game of the North Stars
to cleanup his belongings and turn in the keys to the arena.
Did this happen? Was Norm run-out-of-town?
Rumor has it that while he was attempting to remove the score board,
the score-board fell to the ice and flattened Mr. Greedy to a large
piece of green paper. Arena management had to use the Zamboni (which
they confiscated from Norm's truck) to clean-up the useless remains.
-- Mike
|
9565 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: The Inimitable Rushdie (Re: An Anecdote about Islam
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 16
In article <115288@bu.edu>, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) wrote:
> He'd have to be precise about is rejection of God and his leaving Islam.
> One is perfectly free to be muslim and to doubt and question the
> existence of God, so long as one does not _reject_ God. I am sure that
> Rushdie has be now made his atheism clear in front of a sufficient
> number of proper witnesses. The question in regard to the legal issue
> is his status at the time the crime was committed.
Gregg, so would you consider that Rushdie would now be left alone,
and he could have a normal life? In other words, does Islam support
the notion of forgiving?
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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9566 | From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Subject: Re: Expanded NL Strike Zone? (Was Re: A surfeit of offense?)
Nntp-Posting-Host: spot.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Lines: 11
jrogoff@scott.skidmore.edu (jay rogoff) writes:
>It was my impression watching the Mets & Rockies that umpires were
>calling strikes above the belt, too, but not as far up as the letters.
>It would be nice if this were the case.
The umps saw the weekend boxscores, too. They knew the pitchers needed
some help or they would be watching the sunrise. :)
Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
|
9567 | From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Level 5?
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 31
In article <1993Apr21.134436.26140@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>>(given that I've heard the Shuttle software rated as Level 5 ...
>>Level 5? Out of how many? ...
>
>... Also keep in mind that it was
>*not* achieved through the use of sophisticated tools, but rather
>through a 'brute force and ignorance' attack on the problem during the
>Challenger standdown - they simply threw hundreds of people at it and
>did the whole process by hand...
I think this is a little inaccurate, based on Feynman's account of the
software-development process *before* the standdown. Fred is basically
correct: no sophisticated tools, just a lot of effort and painstaking
care. But they got this one right *before* Challenger; Feynman cited
the software people as exemplary compared to the engine people. (He
also noted that the software people were starting to feel management
pressure to cut corners, but hadn't had to give in to it much yet.)
Among other things, the software people worked very hard to get things
right for the major pre-flight simulations, and considered a failure
during those simulations to be nearly as bad as an in-flight failure.
As a result, the number of major-simulation failures could be counted
on one hand, and the number of in-flight failures was zero.
As Fred mentioned elsewhere, this applies only to the flight software.
Software that runs experiments is typically mostly put together by the
experimenters, and gets nowhere near the same level of Tender Loving Care.
(None of the experimenters could afford it.)
--
All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
|
9568 | From: akins@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (kay.a.akins)
Subject: Re: food-related seizures?
Organization: AT&T
Summary: seizures and foods
Lines: 35
In article <PAULSON.93Apr15082558@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov>, paulson@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Sharon Paulson) writes:
> I am posting to this group in hopes of finding someone out there in
> network newsland who has heard of something similar to what I am going
> to describe here. I have a fourteen year old daugter who experienced
> a seizure on November 3, 1992 at 6:45AM after eating Kellog's Frosted
> Flakes. She is perfectly healthy, had never experienced anything like
> this before, and there is no history of seizures in either side of the
> family. All the tests (EEG, MRI, EKG) came out negative so the decision
> was made to do nothing and just wait to see if it happened again.
>
> Well, we were going along fine and the other morning, April 5, she had
> a bowl of another Kellog's frosted kind of cereal, Fruit Loops (I am
> embarrassed to admit that I even bought that junk but every once
> in a while...) So I pour it in her bowl and think "Oh, oh, this is the
> same kind of junk she was eating when she had that seizure." Ten
> minutes later she had a full blown seizures. This was her first exposure
> to a sugar coated cereal since the last seizure.......
My daughter has Epilepsy and I attend a monthly parent support group.
Just Wednesday night, a mother was telling how she decided to throw
all the junk food out and see if it made a difference in her 13 year-old's
seizures. He was having about one seizure per week. She reported that
she did this on Thursday (3/11), he had a seizure on Saturday and then
went 4 weeks without a seizure!! On Easter he went to Grandma's and ate
candy, pop - anything he wanted. He had a seizure the next day. She
sees sensitivity to nutrasweet, sugar, colors, caffine and corn. With
corn she says, he gets very nervous and aggresive.
With my own daughter (age 7) , I think she is also sensitive and stays
away from those foods on her own. She has never had gum, won't eat
candy, prefers an apple to a cookie, doesn't like chocolate and won't
even use toothpaste!!! Her brother, on the other hand, is a junk food
addict!
Hope this helps. Good Luck.
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9569 | From: dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke)
Subject: Bitplaned ("non-chunky" pixel) cfb????
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh
Lines: 17
Is there a PD version of cfb, or other PD server stuff, which has a colour frame
buffer implementation which works in bitplaned mode, i.e. where the screen
memory is grouped so that "bit 0 of every pixel is here, bit 1 is there, etc."
The only such beast I know if at the moment is the GfxBase server for the
Commodore Amiga, and it is commercial. I don't know if they wrote their own cfb,
but I suspect they did.
Please respond by email, as I don't read this group.
Many thanks
Dave
--
David Crooke, Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh
Janet dcc@ed.dcs : Internet dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk : IP talk dcc@129.215.160.2
Work: JCMB Rm 3310, King's Bldgs, W Mains Rd., Edinburgh EH9 3JZ. 031 650 6013
Home: 2FL, 39 Woodburn Terr, M'side, Edinburgh EH10 4ST. Tel: 031 452 9067
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9570 | From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire
Lines: 38
[reply to frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer)]
>>I'm one of those people who does not know what the word objective means
>>when put next to the word morality. I assume its an idiom and cannot
>>be defined by its separate terms.
>>Give it a try.
>Objective morality is morality built from objective values.
From A Dictionary of Philosophy, by Anthony Flew:
"Objectivism: The belief that there are certain moral truths that would
remain true whatever anyone or everyone thought or desired. For
instance, 'No one should ever deliberately inflict pain on another
simply to take pleasure in his suffering' might be thought of as a
plausible example. Even in a world of sadists who all rejected it, the
contention remains true, just as '5 + 7 = 12' remains correct even if
there is no one left to count. The problem for the objectivist is to
determine the status of moral truths and the method by which they can be
established. If we accept that such judgements are not reports of what
is but only relate to what ought to be (see naturalistic fallacy) then
they cannot be proved by any facts about the nature of the world. Nor
can they be analytic, since this would involve lack of action-guiding
content; 'One ought always to do the right thing' is plainly true in
virtue of the vords involved but it is unhelpful as a practical guide to
action (see analytic and synthetic). At this point the objectivist may
talk of 'self-evident truths', but can he deny the subjectivist's claim
that self-evidence is in the mind of the beholder? If not, what is left
of the claim that some moral judgements are true? THe subjectivist may
well feel that all that remains is that there are some moral judgements
with which he would wish to associate himself. To hold a moral opinion
is, he suggests, not to know something to be true but to have
preferences regarding human activity."
David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu). Midelfort Clinic, Eau Claire WI
This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell
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9571 | From: fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Eric Roush)
Subject: Reds Without Sleeves (was Re: New Uniforms)
Article-I.D.: news.12805
Organization: Biochemistry
Lines: 13
Nntp-Posting-Host: bruchner.biochem.duke.edu
Am I the only person who thinks the Reds sleeveless uniforms are
ugly? Yet another reason why they won't win the NL West! ;)
-------------------------------------------------------
Eric Roush fierkelab@ bchm.biochem.duke.edu
"I am a Marxist, of the Groucho sort"
Grafitti, Paris, 1968
TANSTAAFL! (although the Internet comes close.)
--------------------------------------------------------
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9572 | From: lgibb@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lance Gibb)
Subject: RC Car for trade
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Lines: 30
Title just 'bout says it all:
Grasshopper Remote Controlled Car for Sale/Trade
Features:
-$75 racing engine installed (original included as well)
-2 sets of tires
-Futaba 2 channel radio with servos/receiver
-body completly refinished - great shape
-Battery and charger
-every thing you need to have it running right out of the box,
VERY fast
-everything 100%
I haven't run this thing in a long time. I had it out the other
day just to check on it and everything is A-OK.
I'd listen to ANY cash offers, but am more interested in trading
for some extra storage for my computer. If you have any of the
following and are interested in a trade, drop me a line:
IDE hard drive 50+ megs (MUST be 3.5" wide, 1" tall)
SCSI hard drive 50+ megs (MUST be 3.5" wide, 1" tall)
SCSI tape backup (any make/size)
SCSI CD-ROM
9600 baud modem (external)
Please leave any offers/questions in Email to lgibb@nyx.cs.du.edu
|
9573 | From: sidak_ok@lrc.edu
Subject: CHEMICALS FOR SALE
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC
Lines: 6
The chemicals are gone Thanks for all the response
Omar
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9574 | Subject: al stats
From: "michael mcguire" <michael.mcguire@canrem.com>
Reply-To: "michael mcguire" <michael.mcguire@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Lines: 11
I am looking for a source of American League baseball stats for
individual players in the same format as printed in newspapers, ie. I do
not want to provide a list of players and get back nice printed reports
for $35 a week.
Does anyone know of such statistics availability and an idea of the
cost?
--
Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario
416-629-7000/629-7044
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9575 | From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology
Lines: 24
In article <1993Apr20.163730.16128@guinness.idbsu.edu>, betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz) writes:
> In article <C5rynw.Iz8@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
>>And I suppose the FBI also prevented them from coming out with their
>>hands up while national tv cameras watch.
>>
> Watch from where? Two miles away? Far enough away that whatever
> really happenned must be explained through the vengeful filter of
> a humiliated agency that said (quote!) "Enough is enough."
As I understand it was considered unsafe for the tv networks to get
any closer. Surely the networks can judge the risks of reporting
for themselves. I haven't noticed CNN being banned from Baghdad
hotels yet despite the (all too real) risk of having a cruise
missile land in the lobby. Incidentally has that ever been explained
or are we to assume that out of the whole of the city an off-course
missile just happened to hit that hotel at a probability of about
1 in some very large number?
Unsafe for who I wonder?
--
Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct
Dundee Institute of Technology Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk
Tel: (0382) 308810 (Int +44 382 308810)
** Never underestimate the power of human stupidity **
|
9576 | From: tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock)
Subject: Re: Zionism is Racism
Nntp-Posting-Host: orion.oac.uci.edu
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Lines: 17
In article <20APR93.23565659.0109@VM1.MCGILL.CA> B8HA000 <B8HA@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes:
>In Re:Syria's Expansion, the author writes that the UN thought
>Zionism was Racism and that they were wrong. They were correct
>the first time, Zionism is Racism and thankfully, the McGill Daily
>(the student newspaper at McGill) was proud enough to print an article
>saying so. If you want a copy, send me mail.
>
>Steve
>
I know this paper well, and see it for the exercise in selective morality
and judgement it is. Until such time as it recognizes that *any* religiously
based government is racist, exclusionary and simply built on a philosophy
of "separate but equal" second-class treatment of minorities, it will
continue to be known for its bias. If Jewish nationalism is racism, so is
Islam; anywhere where people are allotted "different rights" according to
race, religion or culture is "racist".
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9577 | From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: New planet/Kuiper object found?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: sci
Nntp-Posting-Host: prism.engrg.uwo.ca
Lines: 5
If the new Kuiper belt object *is* called 'Karla', the next
one should be called 'Smiley'.
James Nicoll
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9578 | From: gt5576b@prism.gatech.EDU (Joe Bleazard)
Subject: References needed on Memory Management
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Lines: 15
I am doing a report on the topic of 'Advanced Memory Management' and
need to know of some good references to cover this topic. It is an
Analytical Chemistry class on Instrumental Analysis. So, as you
could guess, it doesn't have to be an extremely thorough or extensive
covering of the topic. Also, I am a Chemical Engineer and know some,
but not too much about memory management. If anyone could help point
me in a good direction I would be very thankful.
Thanks in advance.
Joe Bleazard gt5576b@hydra.gatech.edu
School of Chemical Engineering
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, GA 30332-0100
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9579 | From: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
Subject: Post Polio Syndrome Information Needed Please !!!
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
Lines: 67
KS> From: keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart)
KS>My wife has become interested through an acquaintance in Post-Polio Syndrome
KS>This apparently is not recognised in New Zealand and different symptons ( eg
KS>chest complaints) are treated separately. Does anone have any information
I'm not sure that this condition is "recognised" anywhere (in the
sense of a disease with diagnostic criteria, clear boundaries
between it and other diseases, unique pathologic or physiologic
features, etc), but here goes with what many neurologists agree on.
Post-polio syndrome patients have evidence of motor neuron disease
by clinical examination, EMG, and muscle biopsy. The abnormalities
are mostly chronic (due to old polio) but there is evidence of
ongoing deterioration. Clinically, the patients complain of
declining strength and endurance with everyday motor tasks.
Musculoskeletal pain is a nearly universal feature that doubtless
contributes to the impaired performance. The examination shows
muscle weakness and atrophy. The EMG shows evidence of old
denervation with reinnervation (giant and long-duration motor unit
action potentials) *and* evidence of active denervation
(fibrillation potentials). The biopsy also shows old denervation
with reinnervation (fiber-type grouping) *and* evidence of active
denervation (small, angulated fibers with dense oxidative enzyme
staining) - but curiously, little or no group atrophy.
Post-polio patients do not have ALS. In ALS, there is clinically
evident deterioration from one month to the next. In post-polio,
the patients are remarkably stable in objective findings from one
year to the next. Of course, there are patients who had polio
before who develop genuine ALS, but ALS is no more common among
polio survivors than among people who never had polio.
The cause of post-polio syndrome is unknown. There is little
evidence that post-polio patients have active polio virus or
destructive immunologic response to virus antigen.
There is no solid evidence that patients with post-polio have
anything different happening to the motor unit (anterior horn cells,
motor axons, neuromuscular junctions, and muscle fibers) than
patients with old polio who are not complaining of deterioration.
Both groups can have the same EMG and biopsy findings. The reason
for these "acute" changes in a "chronic" disease (old polio) is
unknown. Possibly spinal motor neurons (that have reinnervated huge
numbers of muscle fibers) start shedding the load after several
years.
There are a couple of clinical features that distinguish post-polio
syndrome patients from patients with old polio who deny
deterioration. The PPS patients are more likely to have had severe
polio. The PPS patients are *much* more likely to complain of pain.
They also tend to score higher on depression scales of
neuropsychologic tests.
My take on this (I'm sure some will disagree): after recovery from
severe polio there can be abnormal loading on muscles, tendons,
ligaments, bones, and joints, that leads to inflammatory and/or
degenerative conditions affecting these structures. The increasing
pain, superimposed on the chronic (but unchanging) weakness, leads
to progressive impairment of motor performance and ADL. I am
perhaps biased by personal experience of having never seen a PPS
patient who was not limited in some way by pain. I do not believe
that PPS patients have more rapid deterioration of motor units than
non-PPS patients (i.e., those with old polio of similar severity but
without PPS complaints).
---
. SLMR 2.1 . E-mail: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
|
9580 | From: Sang-Yoon Oh <so0z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Jeep Grand vs. Toyota 4-Runner
Organization: Junior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 29
<C51Hn0.2JI@world.std.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <C51Hn0.2JI@world.std.com>
>In article <1pq29p$29p@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>
jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM >writes:
>>
>>Any reason you are limited to the two mentioned? They aren't really at
>>the same point along the SUV spectrum - not to mention price range.
>>How about the Explorer, Trooper, Blazer, Montero, and if the budget
>>allows, the Land Cruiser?
>
>Any advice on HOW to buy a Land Cruiser? My local Toyota dealer says they
>get two a year, and if I want one I can just get on the waiting list.
>Forget about a test drive or even kicking the tires.
>And if they are that rare, I doubt there is much of a parts inventory on
hand.
Land Crusier is just simply nice with shit-load of power and room.
Fully stocked, it cost ~$40,000. I think it is worth the money.
Only problem is when you get into accident(it doesn't usually break down
unless you forget to get a oil change for 30000 miles or something
stupid like this), body parts and other parts are very hard to locate.
Parts are over priced also. One of my friend had accident in past snow
storm and he is still waiting for front bumper and passenger side fender.
Well, if you test drive Land Cruiser, all other SUV look like toys.
One of magazine writer called it "Land Bruiser".
If you have $40,000 to spare for SUV, get Land Cruiser and forget Lange Rover.
--Sang
|
9581 | From: mscha@ctp.com (Michael Schaap)
Subject: Re: Windows Speaker Sound Driver
Organization: CTP Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Lines: 16
Tony S Annese (claebaur@shell.portal.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Apr19.235430.6097@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> alee@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Alec Lee) writes:
: >Is there an ftp site where I can get the MS speaker sound driver? There's
: >a "sound.exe" file that claims to be the driver but I'm suspicious since
: >it's not a .drv file.
:
: Thats the file...
It's a self-extracting archive. (Run it and it extracts a .drv file.)
Michael
--
\ / Groeten uit |o| ////// Michael Schaap /\/\
o Nederland \_/ | T P |\ mscha@ctp.com / /_ \ CTP
/|\ ()----^ | |Sherrif|/ __________________________ \ / / Inc.
_|_ \_____/ \|/ \_|_Dept._|_/ Damn good coffee! And hot! \/\/
|
9582 | From: dave@alex.uchicago.edu (Dave Griffith)
Subject: Re: Temper tantrums from the 1960's
Organization: University of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Lines: 14
In article <1993Apr14.231117.21872@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM writes:
>In article <philC5Ht1t.GwA@netcom.com>, phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes...
>>Along with normalized relations with the PRC.
>
>"Normalizing relations" with Cambodia? You must be joking. We sponsored
>the OVERTHROW of the Cambodian government. After repeated failed attempts
>of course.
PRC = People's Republic of China != Cambodia. Go play.
--
Dave Griffith, Information Resources, University of Chicago,
Department of Surgery dave@alex.bsd.uchicago.edu
Brain damage was what we were after. The chromosome damage was just gravy.
|
9583 | From: dxf12@po.cwru.edu (Douglas Fowler)
Subject: Giving "spiritual gifts"
Reply-To: dxf12@po.cwru.edu (Douglas Fowler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 20
I just thought I'd share a nice experience before my exam today.
I was walking down the streets on our campus, and a beggar came up and asked
me for any spare change I might have. I had a dollar or so that I gave her,
and - not wanting to give away all my money to strangers (I generally give
a dollar as that will buy a little food at McDonalds or something) - I offered
her some "spiritual gifts," as I called them, rather than gifts of money.
I talked of how great I felt that God had made such a pretty day, and how
nice it was to give to people - she then said she was getting married soon.
She talked about how she and her husband had very little (they may not have
even had a house, for all I know), but that they felt a very special love in
the Lord, an unselfish kind of caring. It warmed my heart to know that 2
people can have so little monetarily, and realize that spiritually they are
indeed very rich. A good lesson for all of us who say we want more, more,
more; what we really need cannot be counted, or sold, or bought.
--
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu Heaven is a great big hug that lasts forever
"And when that One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name;
He writes, not whether you've won or lost, but how you played the game"
--Grantland Rice
|
9584 | From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Subject: Re: Too fast
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA
Lines: 22
In article <1qmcih$dhs@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>They light the highways in Texas? Funny, everywhere else I've been
>they only light 'em at junctions.
And armadillo crossings.
>Texas is pretty much an edge-case -- you can't assume that everywhere
>has roads in such good condition, such flat terrain, and such
>wide-open spaces. It just ain't so.
Well, let's see, in just my own _personal_ experience there's
Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Wyoming, Utah, South Dakota, Nebraska,
Minnesota, Montana, Florida, and parts of Louisianna.
Nobody said "Let's go into town and drive 130 on Main St."
And you couldn't go that fast on the graveled washboard that passes
for highway in some parts. But that "only really expensive cars should
be driven fast" crap, is, well, crap...
wr
|
9585 | From: tzs@stein2.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: "Winning" Tax Case!
Article-I.D.: shelley.1pqi26INNl8j
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95
Lines: 27
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein2.u.washington.edu
dreitman@oregon.uoregon.edu (Daniel R. Reitman, Attorney to Be) writes:
>Which makes it legally unsound. If I were representing Mr. Teel,
>I'd try a procedural approach if I could find one, or recommend
>he plea-bargain. He's setting himself up to be in hot water.
Indeed. Reading the cases of people who've tried the various things
Mr. Teel suggests show that defendants fall into two classes: (1) those
who win on procedural grounds or some grounds not related to their
claim, and (2) those who lose.
Consider Newman v. Schiff, 778 F.2d 460 (8th Cir.1985), which I've seen
cited by tax protestors other than Mr. Teel as a win for Mr. Schiff.
Mr. Schiff offered $100,000 on TV to anyone who would call in the
show and cite any section of the Internal Revenue Code that says that
an individual has to file a return.
Mr. Newman took him up on it. Mr. Newman had seen the show in a rebroadcast
the next morning. Mr. Schiff claimed that the offer only extended to
people who actually say the original broadcast, and so there was no offer
for Mr. Newman to accept, and so no unilateral contract was formed, and
so Mr. Schiff did not have to pay $100,000.
Mr. Schiff was correct, and so won. So, yes, Mr. Schiff won against a
claim on the $100,000 reward. However, his win had nothing to do with
the tax code.
--Tim Smith
|
9586 | From: u8121520@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: hi:could I join?
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Lines: 7
Hi:
Does anybody known how much about to buy an ethernet card for mac se ?
Besides,Where do I goto buy.If I buy it by mail-order,which brand is suitable for mac se(the network is coxial wire).Thanks a lot.
Could anybody tell me what to do? Thank you.
|
9587 | From: rcaldrn@med.miami.edu (Richard Calderon)
Subject: Re: moving icons
Nntp-Posting-Host: epistat.med.miami.edu
Organization: University Of Miami, Medical School
Lines: 17
kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry) writes:
>I remember reading about a program that made windows icons run away
>from the mouse as it moved near them. Does anyone know the name
>of this program and the ftp location (probably at cica)
As I remember it, the name of the program your looking for is called icofrite.
Cica was where I saw it last. It was quite a while ago.
*********************************************
Richard Calderon: rcaldrn@epi.med.miami.edu*
University of Miami School of Medicine *
Information Systems Computing *
1029 NW 15 St. *
Miami, Florida 33136 *
*********************************************
|
9588 | From: peter.m@insane.apana.org.au (Peter Tryndoch)
Subject: Telephone On Hook/Off Hok
Lines: 17
AllMichael CovingtonTelephone on hook/off hok
MC>From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
MC>Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
MC>Aye, there's the rub -- if you draw enough current to light an LED, th
MC>equipment at the phone company will think you've gone off hook.
MC>In the on-hook state you're not supposed to draw current.
Ok lets have some calculation here: Going by Australian standards, which I
presume might be similar to other countries ( If not, lets have some
input) a phone uses 600ohm to loop a 48V line = 80mA. A standard LED
drains 20mA. So what is the actual loop current required for an "off hook"
indication, do you know?
Cheers
Peter T.
|
9589 | From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Tracing license plates of BDI cagers?
Article-I.D.: adobe.1993Apr6.184204.26184
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Lines: 24
This morning a truck that had been within my sight (and I within
his) for about 3 miles suddenly forgot that I existed and pulled
over right on me -- my front wheel was about even with the back
edge of his front passenger door as I was accelerating past him.
It was trivial enough for me to tap the brakes and slide behind him
as he slewed over (with no signal, of course) on top of me, with
my little horn blaring (damn, I need Fiamms!), but the satisfaction
of being aware of my surroundings and thus surviving was not enough,
especially when I later pulled up alongside the bastard and he made
no apologetic wave or anything.
Is there some way that I can memorize the license plate of an
offending vehicle and get the name and address of the owner?
I'm not going to firebomb houses or anything, I'd just like to
write a consciousness-raising letter or two. I think that it would
be good for BDI cagers to know that We Know Where They Live.
Maybe they'd use 4 or 5 brain cells while driving instead of the
usual 3.
--
Curtis Jackson cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com '91 Hawk GT '81 Maxim 650
DoD#0721 KotB '91 Black Lab mix "Studley Doright" '92 Collie/Golden "George"
"There is no justification for taking away individuals' freedom
in the guise of public safety." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
9590 | From: khan0095@nova.gmi.edu (Mohammad Razi Khan)
Subject: Re: Fundamentalism - again.
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Lines: 10
Ok, someone is fundamentalist, someone else is not.
What defines a fundamentalist (Not who!!!!!!!!!).
That is an essential question which nobody has agreed upon an answer,
at least to what literature / discussion / news i've seen..
--
Mohammad R. Khan / khan0095@nova.gmi.edu
After July '93, please send mail to mkhan@nyx.cs.du.edu
|
9591 | From: perry@dsinc.com (Jim Perry)
Subject: Re: [soc.motss, et al.] "Princeton axes matching funds for Boy Scouts"
Article-I.D.: dsi.1pq6skINNhi4
Distribution: usa
Organization: Decision Support Inc.
Lines: 28
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsi.dsinc.com
In article <1993Apr3.221101.25314@midway.uchicago.edu> shou@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1pi0dhINN8ub@dsi.dsinc.com> perry@dsinc.com (Jim Perry) writes:
>>Bigots never concede that their bigotry is irrational; it
>>is other people who determine that by examining their arguments.
>[...]
>No! I expected it! You've set yourself up a wonderful little
>world where a bigot is whomever you say it is. This is very
>comfortable for you--imagine, never having to entertain an
>argument against your belief system. Simply accuse the person
>making of being a bigot.
Well, this particular thread of vituperation slopped its venom over
into alt.atheism, where we spend most of our time entertaining
arguments against our belief system, without resorting to accusing
others of bigotry. It's somewhat ironic that our exposure to bigotry
happens in this instance to have originated in rec.scouting, since I
always understood scouting to teach tolerance and diversity. I
understand bigotry to be irrational prejudice against other people who
happen to be of a different race, religion, ethnic background, sex, or
other inconsequential characteristics. All the evidence I've seen
indicates that sexual orientation and lack of belief in gods are
exactly such inconsequential characteristics. Thus, pending further
evidence, I conclude that those who show prejudice against such people
are bigots, and organizations that exclude such people are
discriminatory.
--
Jim Perry perry@dsinc.com Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC
These are my opinions. For a nominal fee, they can be yours.
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9592 | X-Mailer: TMail version 1.17R
From: "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@witsend.tnet.com>
Organization: Nobody but me -- really
Subject: Re: Is THOU SHALT NOT KILL ever applied in the Bible?
Distribution: world
Lines: 15
In <1pdj4bINNrtr@crcnis1.unl.edu>, e_p@unl.edu (edgar pearlstein) wrote:
# Are there any places in the Bible where the commandment "Thou
# shalt not kill" is specifically applied? That is, where someone
# refrained from killing because he remembered the commandment.
No, for the excellent reason that there IS no such commandment.
Aside from that, please note that the Abrahamic literary tradition
is strong on narrative, light on dialog, and virtually nonexistent
w/r/t introspection.
--- D. C. Sessions Speaking for myself ---
--- Note new network address: dcs@witsend.tnet.com ---
--- Author (and everything else!) of TMail (DOS mail/news shell) ---
|
9593 | From: perry@wswiop15.win.tue.nl (Perry Egelmeers)
Subject: Re: FUNET.FI
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Lines: 13
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wswiop15.win.tue.nl
artieb@vnet.IBM.COM writes:
> I saw a posting earlier that refered to FUNET.FI directory /pub/msdos
>however, when I log on to FUNET.FI I cant even find the "pub" directory
>let alone the "msdos" directory !!!! Can someone tell me what I'm doing
>wrong??
Perhaps you should try nic.funet.fi instead of funet.fi ??!?!?
nic.funet.fi is THE biggest (?) ftp site from Europe, but
the stuff available there should (?) also be available at the other site
of the "big pool".
Perry Egelmeers
|
9594 | From: vech@Ra.MsState.Edu (Craig A. Vechorik)
Subject: Re: BMW MOA members read this!
Nntp-Posting-Host: ra.msstate.edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Lines: 14
In regards ot some of the posts concerning bias in articles of k bikes
versis /2's or boxers of a later date or whatever.. Jeezzz, Lighten up!
I wrote the slash two blues for a bit of humor which seems to be lacking
in the MOA Owners News, when most of the stuff is "I rode the the first
day, I saw that, I rode there the second day, I saw this"
any body out there know were the sense if humor went in people?
I though I still had mine, but I dunno...
Regards
Craig Vechorik
BMW MOA Ambassador #9462
DOD #843
And hey, I just want ya'll to vote.. O.K.? for SOMEBODY instead of throwing
it in the trash...
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9595 | From: asket@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: When is a couple married...
Organization: University of Alaska
Lines: 31
I used to be a marriage commissioner for the Alaska Court
System (sort of a justice of the peace). I had great difficulty
with that duty. I used to pray earnestly in the courthouse
bathroom before the ceremonies, mostly asking that the couples
would come to appreciate and fulfill the true holiness and
divine purpose in marriage--couples who obviously didn't realize
that marriage is God's institution, not the state's. Gradually,
however, I came to conclude that because I was acting in a
strictly secular, public capacity, established as such by both
the state and the expectations of the couples involved, I was
really conducting a purely secular, legal civil event, with no
greater moral or religious implications than if I had been
conducting a civil trial (the couple who told me, mid-ceremony,
to "please hurry it up" may have helped me to this conclusion).
I thought I had neatly rationalized a clear and sharp
distinction between marriage before God, and "marriage" before
the state, until I had to deal with my own divorce. Keeping
Matthew 19:6 in mind, I felt that the state had no business
dissolving my marriage established before God, but of course it
assumed jurisdiction nonetheless.
I would ask those of you proposing answers to this
question to consider this issue's logical extension: If
intercourse, or the mental intent of the parties, or the
ceremony of the church, or any combination thereof, establishes
marriage, then at what moment is it dissolved?
Karl Thoennes III
University of Alaska
|
9596 | Subject: Re: GUI Application Frameworks for Windows ??
From: stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz (Stefan Olson)
Lines: 32
In <1993Apr12.154418.14463@cimlinc.uucp> bharper@cimlinc.uucp (Brett Harper) writes:
>Hello,
>
> I'm investigating the purchase of an Object Oriented Application Framework. I have
>come across a few that look good:
> Zapp 1.1 from Inmark
> Zinc 3.5 from Zinc software
> C++/Views from Liant
> Win++ from Blaise
>Some considerations I'm using:
> Being new to Windows programming (I'm from the UNIX/X world), the quality and
>intuitivness of the abstraction that these class libraries provide is very
>important. However, since I'm not adverse to learning the internals of Windows
>programming, the new programming methodology should be closely aligned with
>the native one. I don't believe arbitrary levels of abstraction, just for the
>sake of changing the API, are valuable.
The Microsoft Founation classes (afx) that come with C/C++ 7.0 (and
Visual C++) are very good, they already have a version for NT,
it comes with source code, and is very close to the navtive API.
It also as some classes to manage data structures...
...Stefan
--
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Stefan Olson Mail: stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz
Kindness in giving creates love.
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9597 | From: ldaddari@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Larry D'Addario)
Subject: Re: Russian Email Contacts.
In-Reply-To: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu's message of Sat, 17 Apr 1993 12: 52:09 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Lines: 32
It is usually possible to reach people at IKI (Institute for Space
Research) in Moscow by writing to
IKIMAIL@esoc1.bitnet
This is a machine at ESA in Darmstadt, Germany; IKI has a dedicated
phone line to this machine and someone there logs in regularly to
retrieve mail.
In addition, there are several user accounts belonging to Russian
scientific institutions on
<user>@sovam.com
which is a commercial enterprise based in San Francisco that provides
email services to the former USSR. For example, fian@sovam.com is the
"PHysics Institute of the Academy of Sciences" (initials transliterated
from Russian, of course). These connections cost the Russians real
dollars, even for *received* messages, so please don't send anything
voluminous or frivilous.
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Larry R. D'Addario
National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Addresses (INTERNET) LDADDARI@NRAO.EDU
(FAX) +1/804/296-0324 Charlottesville
+1/304/456-2200 Green Bank
(MAIL) 2015 Ivy Road, Charlottesville, VA 22903, USA
(PHONE) +1/804/296-0245 office, 804/973-4983 home CHO
+1/304/456-2226 off., -2106 lab, -2256 apt. GB
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9598 | From: eachus@spectre.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip)
In-Reply-To: mjr@tis.com's message of 21 Apr 1993 21:28:13 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: spectre.mitre.org
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
<1993Apr20.192105.11751@ulysses.att.com>
<1993Apr21.001230.26384@lokkur.dexter.mi.us> <1r4e9d$pdo@sol.TIS.COM>
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Don't get fooled by exponents 2^80 (possible keys) is not in the
same league with 10^80 (particles in the universe). 2^80 < 10^25.
Remember Avagadro's number? There are about that many elementary
particles (not molecules) in one mole. Pretty small universe! Or if
you can put 5 Gigabytes on one tape, you would need about 10 trillion
tapes (allowing several bytes per entry). Still more than all of the
existing magnetic media on the planet, but wait a few years. (I'm
including existing audio and video cassettes in the total. Ten
trillion is about 2,000 per person worldwide... Gives new meaning to
the suspicions of hiden messages.)
--
Robert I. Eachus
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9599 | From: uphrrmk@gemini.oscs.montana.edu (Jack Coyote)
Subject: Re: PLANETS STILL: IMAGES ORBIT BY ETHER TWIST
Reply-To: uphrrmk@gemini.oscs.montana.edu (Jack Coyote)
Organization: Never Had It, Never Will
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In sci.astro, dmcaloon@tuba.calpoly.edu (David McAloon) writes:
[ a nearly perfect parody -- needed more random CAPS]
Thanks for the chuckle. (I loved the bit about relevance to people starving
in Somalia!)
To those who've taken this seriously, READ THE NAME! (aloud)
--
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Enjoy the buffet!
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